Previewing Sunday’s Raiders vs. Dolphins game
By Jon Becker
Sunday, September 16th, 2012 at 2:11 am in Oakland Raiders.
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By Jon Becker
Sunday, September 16th, 2012 at 2:11 am in Oakland Raiders.
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September 16th, 2012 at 3:52 am
Dont Fuçk this up!! 48-3 RAAIDERS!
September 16th, 2012 at 4:01 am
Raider O, sorry I couldn’t respond to your posts sooner. Had to step out for a while. If you want to, we can continue this discussion when we meet again. Not that it’ll do any good. This conflict will never end until the Islamofascists accept the reality of Israel.
Sad thing is if you and I met on a personal level we’d probably get along just fine and find we have much in common.
Frankly, I don’t think this blog is the appropriate place for this kind of debate and I try to keep my posts related to the Raiders.
However, if you insist on posting ‘free Palestine’ nonsense, revisionist history, or the Arab narrative of events on this forum, then I will feel obligated to set the record straight.
I’d prefer that we keep it Raider related. No reason to derail the blog.
If you want, have the last word, but after that I think we should drop it. Can we agree on that ?
September 16th, 2012 at 4:15 am
It’s still not too late to leave Gregry(no ‘o’)Knapp behind in his hotel room and win this thing !
September 16th, 2012 at 4:57 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21553802/monte-poole-struggling-offense-not-sitting-well-raider
Monte Poole takes a dump on Gregry.
Thanks to ArmChair GM for posting this earlier.
September 16th, 2012 at 4:59 am
No excuses today RAIDERS WILL WIN!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Raiders 27
bad Tuna 10
September 16th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Slo-Mania!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Raiders 17
Dolphins 10
September 16th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Anyone think Knapp could get fired if Raiders shutout today?
September 16th, 2012 at 6:01 am
No chance in hell Knapp gets fired, even if we get -5 yards total today.
You can’t bring in an OC to a staff, then fire him after 2 games, and ever hope to bring in a quality OC for that HC ever again.
Why do you think so many coaches (hell even the Steve Sarkisian’s of the world) didn’t even want to interview with Al towards the end?
September 16th, 2012 at 6:03 am
You would think with name like Just Fire Baby, you would be all for firing Knapp.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Aaron Young @_Just_Win_Baby_
Anyone else preparing a Raider shrine in the TV room for the game? Anyone else change jerseys for offense and defense during game?
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That is intense.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
You would think with name like Just Fire Baby, you would be all for firing Knapp.
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I think his handle is meant to be a mockery of the way the coaching staff was handled by Al. JFB’s been around this blog a long time – since way before we even had to log into the site.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Sitting here on the east coast and simply saying to myself this is a winnable game, and no excuses if we lose it is a bad sign for the balance of the season.
We need to be better at play calling on offense, plain and simple.
The talent is there, but will we be effective, I am hoping that we finally turn the corner, Miami is not a good team.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:47 am
So far, I’ve yet to hear a Knapp hater give one legitimate argument as to why he should be fired. Since joining this staff this year, he’s done a good job.
If our players continue to make dumb mistakes, our fans will continue to call for knapps head. We may not be Chicago-fan stupid, but we’re getting dang close.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Dennis Allen needs to give this speech today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk
September 16th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Every major mistake last Monday was on the players, yetso called raider fans think we can scrap our OC and change systems 2 weeks into the season. Some real smart football minds we got in here. Thankfully Reggie don’t give a rats a55 what the lemmings think.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Our coaching staff was just rebuilt. If we don’t get results, next on the agenda will be retooling the roster, not ANOTHER coaching change.
Its time we start demanding more of our players.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Raiders need to crawl out of Hell one inch at a time.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
The talent is there, but will we be effective, I am hoping that we finally turn the corner, Miami is not a good team.
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The talent wasn’t there at WR last week. Hopefully Moore can provide some spark there today.
But the receivers were just outright awful on Monday night. No separation. Wrong routes (either that or Carson was throwing to the wrong place – nobody within 15 yards). Drops. Knapp called deep plays, but the players failed to execute on all but one. There was no reason to keep dipping the bucket into a dry well in that game.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Win the turnover battle and win the field position battle, and our talent will do the rest. This is football 101. Can’t win those two things and not even Vince Lombardy is going to make a lick of difference.
September 16th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Gorilla Rilla got married in his costume. LOL
September 16th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Klas predicts Titans beat Chargers today.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:00 am
I am sure nobody saw the end of the Utah BYPooh game. Never seen a game end quit like that one!! My Utes about choked it away but held on to victory after the game ending # count em 3 different times and a field goal hitting the left upright.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:02 am
JFB
How was the grub last night? Did you eat some duck? lol
September 16th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Last Words:
-Stop supporting Israel with our taxes! Why should we support Israel when they can afford free health insurance and WE CAN’T?
September 16th, 2012 at 7:11 am
I almost forgot Free Palestine!
September 16th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Riff.
“So far, I’ve yet to hear a Knapp hater give one legitimate argument as to why he should be fired. Since joining this staff this year, he’s done a good job.
If our players continue to make dumb mistakes, our fans will continue to call for knapps head. We may not be Chicago-fan stupid, but we’re getting dang close.”
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Players make mistakes on every game and for every team, a big part of coaching is preventing those mistakes in practice by making sure execution is sharp and then overcoming those mistakes if they come up during a game.
It’s never just the players or just the coaches.
When your offense fails to score a TD until there’s 1 minute left and the opponent is trading yards for time, it’s a total team failure, both players and coaches should be held accountable.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Sad thing is if you and I met on a personal level we’d probably get along just fine and find we have much in common.
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If only people focused on what they have in common rather than their differences……
Btw, I don’t have a problem with Jews, and I believe in their right to live in that area with Christians & Muslims, but not as the State of Israel. Give back what you stole (Land and houses) from the people (my family), and we can all live in peace.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
LOL O! ok, done now ?
Wonder if TP is going to be inactive again.
Was kinda thinking that maybe by holding him back last week, teams might not prepare as hard for his wildcat possibility.
Might not matter much with the Flippers as the bulk of their defense probably has had extensive practice time against the wildcat during the Sparano regime.
Still, might catch them with their blow holes exposed.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Yes sir. I’m done. You said I can have the last word, so I wanted to take advantage of your offer. Thank you. lol
TP should be active especially if we are having issues with scoring (we are so far). The guy can plat STs, in GL situation, and wildcat.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Play*
September 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Post #3, lol and so true, he and the special teams coach can play video games watch hotel porn all game long.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
By the way, Knapp still has some time to work things out as far as I’m concerned, it was just one game (with some incredible bad luck) so I’m not a fire Knapp guy yet, I wish we went a different way on Offense but right now he’s here and by all accounts he has a bright football mind, I just hope it translates into the field and he’s more than just a good teacher.
Play-caling takes a lot more than drawing up good looking plays, it’s timing, rythim, guts, feel and even personality, so the jury’s still out on Knapp who has held a full-time, OC position just once in the last 5 seasons (Seattle, 2009) I’m not counting his Raiders stint when he called plays for 4 games.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:40 am
GOOD MORNING NATION!!!
and my GreenParty brothers!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Jesus,
No duck, but pretty damn good.
Lots of peanut sauce
September 16th, 2012 at 7:43 am
* Knapp who has held a full-time, play-calling included, OC position just once in the last 5 seasons (Seattle, 2009).
There must be a reason for that and when you think about it, the Seattle job was handed to him by his close buddy Jim Mora Jr. if Mora doesn’t get that job, it’s more than likely Knapp would have failed to land an OC-play-calling job in the last 6 years.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Key injuries to Wisniewski and Moore and Condo cost us the MNF game.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Reality from Monte Poole? Excuses?
Whether the Raiders beat the ‘fins or not, they’re in a no-win situation, I’m sure we will all praise the win, but it is the ‘fins they’re playing, with a rookie coach and QB. The ‘fins defense looked good for only a half last week, let’s see what Krappy and Palmer can do.
Can’t put much on the Raiders run defense either going against Ronnie Brown? Let’s see how they do with Reggie Bush and Tanny Hill, they should kill them, right?
Raider Nation must stop making excuses for bad coaches and players, either get it done or get out of Oaktown.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Riff.
“So far, I’ve yet to hear a Knapp hater give one legitimate argument as to why he should be fired. Since joining this staff this year, he’s done a good job.
If our players continue to make dumb mistakes, our fans will continue to call for knapps head. We may not be Chicago-fan stupid, but we’re getting dang close.”
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Players make mistakes on every game and for every team, a big part of coaching is preventing those mistakes in practice by making sure execution is sharp and then overcoming those mistakes if they come up during a game.
It’s never just the players or just the coaches.
When your offense fails to score a TD until there’s 1 minute left and the opponent is trading yards for time, it’s a total team failure, both players and coaches should be held accountable.
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Youre speaking as if you didnt watch the game. If you just read the box score, only scoring one TD late would look like the OC doesnt know what he’s doing. But you did watch the game, you know there is more to it than that. Three botched punt attempts is not going to win games. Should we have stopped punting? Yes. Is that on Knapp? No. That is a DA call. Anyone that blames Knapp for that has an agenda.
Let me honesly ask you something Bob, cause I know you will be honest. Do you know how to break down game tape? Cause if you dont, how are you going to be able to critique playcalling?
It doesnt take a football IQ of 5 to know when a player jumps offsides or when a player fumbles or when another fumble costs us 25 yards. Every game players make a mistake here or there, but not the vast number we made. Not twice on 3rd and short on the same drive. You cannot expect to win with the amount of dumb things we did. And if you do, then good luck, because no coach can overcome that stuff until theyve dumped the roster for guys who show up on Monday Nite.
Hue couldnt win with that crap. Cable couldnt do it either. Dont make me list the vast number of times that we shot ourselves in the feet over the past two years. Sure we had our share of bad refs. Sure our defensive scheme was a pile of crap. Those situations we were misfiring in many areas. On Monday Nite and in the preseason, we misfired in just one.
Just look at how many were all over Palmer during the preseason. Completely ignoring the 3 dropped TD passes that were on the money. But they were all over him for forcing balls. He chooses not to force the balls on Monday Nite and now Knapp is the scape goat. It’s asinine.
The Raiders players used to show up and dominate on Monday Nite. Some of our current guys arent even close in the execution department. We got plenty of talent, but a lot of guys need to show it.
We cant have DHB scoring big like he did against Detroit one play, and then on the following drive cough up a fumble while we are about to score again. That aint on the coaches, not one bit.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Anyone know wo the Inactives are?
I predict same OLs: Barksdale, Bergstrom, and Nix; Condo, Pryor, Jones
Plus one more.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
When your offense fails to score a TD until there’s 1 minute left and the opponent is trading yards for time, it’s a total team failure, both players and coaches should be held accountable.
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Absolutely.
Got a kick out of the debate last week whether the fumbled reverse toss was on Taiwan or Marcel.
Now I happen to think it was almost all on Reese, and that it was an excellent play call by Gregry.
But that’s not the point.
The point is, the play was executed for sht.
That falls on Knapp.
As a matter of fact, when you see the offense looking lethargic, getting delay penalties inside the opponent’s 10 yard line with time winding down at the end of the half – That falls on Knapp.
Gregry is not only responsible for installing a scheme that maximizes his player’s talents and will drive opposing defenses nuts…
He’s not only responsible for making the right call at the right time….
He’s also responsible for making sure the plays are executed crisply and correctly. The reverse surely was not. You practice that play til the toss is automatic. This can’t be amateur hour.
Knapp’s ‘this will take time’ excuse doesn’t float.
You’ve had enough time. What are the Raids supposed to do, wait half the season until your system is understood and in place ? There is no time to waste. The real bullets are being fired now. Can’t afford to die waiting for you to finally have the squad ready.
Better score some points TODAY. Don’t tell me you’ll be better next week.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
By the way, Knapp still has some time to work things out as far as I’m concerned, it was just one game (with some incredible bad luck) so I’m not a fire Knapp guy yet, I wish we went a different way on Offense but right now he’s here and by all accounts he has a bright football mind, I just hope it translates into the field and he’s more than just a good teacher.
Play-caling takes a lot more than drawing up good looking plays, it’s timing, rythim, guts, feel and even personality, so the jury’s still out on Knapp who has held a full-time, OC position just once in the last 5 seasons (Seattle, 2009) I’m not counting his Raiders stint when he called plays for 4 games.
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That’s a fair enough assessment. If everyone took that sorta approach, I wouldnt even be sticking up for Knapp. Because lord knows, Im not super high on the guy, I just know when a good job is being done and so far, he has done that.
But lets not act like Hue was the perfect play caller, remember the TP play against KC last year? Stupid as he11. 3rd and 1 and we have the best RB in football and we go for a gimmick play that puts us back 5 yards and then the next play is in the hands of Boller. You know the rest of the story.
Hue had more than his fair share of moments of WTF. Knapp hasnt had one yet.
Heck, I remember how much crap Gruden and Gannon used to take from Raider fans. It took years for us to appreciate them and we never really did til they were gone. Sometimes I think that the average Raider fan would rather play “the Raider way” and lose than play modern football and win. Im not saying that is you personally, but we all suffer from that to a certain degree. If you bleed silver & black, you got a little Al Davis stubborn & stupid in you.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:50 am
So our goal is to be as good as our offense was in 2010 right?
Well week 1 that season, we scored 13 points.
Week 2, they scored a whopping 16 points, lol.
We are going to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY ahead of that pace at the end of today.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:51 am
I for one am more angry that we have switched to a zbs (from Raiders’ proven power blocking) than that we hired Knapp.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:51 am
If the semis had game tape and the ability to break it down they would have to be in the team meetings to know what was suppose to happen on each play.
Bottom line = we can speculate but thats about it.
Remember JediRaider? He would break down the games here on the blog and he did a great job but he did not know the game plan so he could only do so much
September 16th, 2012 at 7:51 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
The point is, the play was executed for sht.
That falls on Knapp.
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Excellent logic right there. Yawn.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:53 am
I for one am more angry that we have switched to a zbs (from Raiders’ proven power blocking)
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It takes time man.
That “proven” blocking scheme, failed to score 30 points in 2 games to get started.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Let’s go Raiders!
Knapp will not be the play caller by the end of the season.
Print that!
September 16th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:51 am
If the semis had game tape and the ability to break it down they would have to be in the team meetings to know what was suppose to happen on each play.
Bottom line = we can speculate but thats about it.
Remember JediRaider? He would break down the games here on the blog and he did a great job but he did not know the game plan so he could only do so much
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Endzone footage coaches film is available on NFL.com these days.
If you know football, you dont need to be in the locker room to know what is going on during a given play.
Knowing the gameplan is a different story for the average football nerd. But it’s not rocket science. Breaking things down isnt half as hard as putting it together, that is how those guys make the big bucks.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Klas is done following Arron Curry on twitter. Tired of all his Jesus freak bull sh*t. Probably never play for Raiders again anyways.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Raider O Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Let’s go Raiders!
Knapp will not be the play caller by the end of the season.
Print that!
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And when he still is, what do I get? You going to stop arguing with me about small stuff like this hahaha? I doubt it, but that should be the deal.
BTW, when does the radio broadcast start? Have they completely nixed the pregame show? It was a joke last week. Some douche I never heard of was on.
September 16th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Victor Cotto @cottovic
The Oakland #Raiders are 12-24 in games that kickoff at 10 a.m. Pacific since 2005.
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September 16th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Klas is done following Arron Curry on twitter. Tired of all his Jesus freak bull sh*t. Probably never play for Raiders again anyways.
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I dumped him a long time ago. Between him and Deion Sanders it was bible study 24/7 on my feed.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Victor Cotto @cottovic
The Oakland #Raiders are 12-24 in games that kickoff at 10 a.m. Pacific since 2005.
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Is that better or worse than our win percentage of regular games? Serious question. We havent been that good at any timezone in case you havent noticed.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Hue had more than his fair share of moments of WTF. Knapp hasnt had one yet.
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Knapp hasn’t had one yet?
WTF are you watching the last 5 games?
Most of his career is a WTF moment.
WTF Knapp!!
September 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
D Moore will open up the offense for CP & DMAC. Reece should be moved to TE. Taiwan should be playing for his life and career. Kelly & Seymour are borderline pitiful. ST’s is so bad like I said in pre-season it can cost us the game every week! This is a good week for our defense to get some swag.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
He’s also responsible for making sure the plays are executed crisply and correctly. The reverse surely was not. You practice that play til the toss is automatic. This can’t be amateur hour.
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You really think that play wasnt practiced to perfection in practice?
If the players cant handle it, they wont install it.
Just like Goethel. He did fine when he practiced long snapping in the offseason, and choked when the lights were brightest.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Retard Riff keeps saying Knapp is doing a good job.
Based on what, retard ?
Based on the fact the Raids moved the ball before Streator’s fumble ?
Maybe Jerry Rice told you that he’s doing a good job.
Certainly isn’t based on the number of points his offense has scored so far.
And that’s what matters most.
So since you’re mocking the people that are saying he’s doing a lousy job, and faux yawning when given reasons to doubt him – why not enlighten us and tell us what you’re basing ‘he’s doing a good job’ on ?
Give it a shot peckerhead.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:08 am
29 points in 2 games our 2010 season started with!!!!!
Wake up people, it takes time
September 16th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Raider O Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Let’s go Raiders!
Knapp will not be the play caller by the end of the season.
Print that!
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And when he still is, what do I get? You going to stop arguing with me about small stuff like this hahaha? I doubt it, but that should be the deal.
BTW, when does the radio broadcast start? Have they completely nixed the pregame show? It was a joke last week. Some douche I never heard of was on.
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You were right about Who Reggie was going to draft, but I was right that it wasn’t the best pick. Our 26 YO rookie OG is not even active and an UFA is ahead of him on the depth-chart.
Arguing with you is too much fun. I doubt I will stop.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Just like Goethel. He did fine when he practiced long snapping in the offseason, and choked when the lights were brightest.
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So you decided that Lechler is a liar since he said Goethel didn’t practice LS during the week?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:11 am
It takes time man.
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How much time we talking ?
2 more games ?
2 more years ?
Forever ?
Speaking of time…what happens to Slo-mania if he has to do some ?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
How much time we talking ?
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The first game after the bye, which is game 5 or 6 I believe.
If we aren’t putting up 24 per pop than (what we averaged last year) then I will hop on board with you.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Is that better or worse than our win percentage of regular games? Serious question. We havent been that good at any timezone in case you havent noticed.
lol good one. I was gonna say the DA and the MS have not lost a game in the 10 oclock slot
September 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
Based on the fact the Raids moved the ball before Streator’s fumble ?
(and based on the fact that after watching the game 4 times, twice with the endzone footage, he was calling the right plays for what the Chargers were doing)
And that’s what matters most.
(tell that to the guys fumbling all over the place)
why not enlighten us and tell us what you’re basing ‘he’s doing a good job’ on ?
(I have, multiple times, you have a reading comprehension issue.)
September 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Raiderman99…you been very funny lately lol
September 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Speaking of time…what happens to Slo-mania if he has to do some ?
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He will be like Tupac, and ready to come out and take over the industry.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:15 am
That is a 33% winning percentage of the 10am games.
If I were to guess our winning % on the whole over that time period, would probably be right about 40%.
The better indicator, since all those games at 10am are road games, is what is our road record for games played in other time slots.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Raider O Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Just like Goethel. He did fine when he practiced long snapping in the offseason, and choked when the lights were brightest.
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So you decided that Lechler is a liar since he said Goethel didn’t practice LS during the week?
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No. Im not sure how you read that.
Do other teams have their backup Long Snapper practice during the week? Not usually. And if they do, that is a ST coach or HC issue, not OC issue.
He practiced it in the off season and did a fine enough job to ease the DA’s concerns. That tells me that Goethel choked come gametime.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
D Moore will open up the offense for CP & DMAC. Reece should be moved to TE. Taiwan should be playing for his life and career. Kelly & Seymour are borderline pitiful. ST’s is so bad like I said in pre-season it can cost us the game every week! This is a good week for our defense to get some swag.
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Seymour played well last week.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
How much time we talking ?
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The first game after the bye, which is game 5 or 6 I believe.
If we aren’t putting up 24 per pop than (what we averaged last year) then I will hop on board with you.
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Youre not going to consider any variables? Youre just going to go strictly by the numbers eh?
So if we continue to lose the turnover battle, each and every game (which is highly unlikely), you are just going to ignore that and look for some reason to find Knapp to blame?
He’s putting our guys in position to make plays. You cant ask for any more than that. The guys have to deliver. They havent.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Seymour played well last week? Ok he didn’t get tossed so I guess he is making strides.
smh
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Allen said he had confidence in Goethel based on the way Goethel performed in practice.
“He’s worked on snapping the ball,” Allen said. “Actually he’s done a nice job in practice. It’s obviously a lot different when you get in a game-like situation. He was put in a tough situation and it hurt us.”
Goethel said he last long-snapped in a game back in high school. That was seven years ago or so. He said his practice time is limited to before full-team practices
When asked how many snaps Goethel gets during practice during a typical week, Lechler said: “Zero.”
Yet, there he was, the man on the spot when Condo went down.
How he got there is rather curious, too.
“(Allen) asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in there.”
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ZERO!!!
A guy who didn’t LS for 8 years doesn’t need practice during the Week?!
I blame DA and the Special Monkey aka Hoffman.
If they don’t practice LS during the week, maybe they didn’t practice the reverse. Who knows what else they didn’t practice during the week? Scoring?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
D Moore will open up the offense for CP & DMAC. Reece should be moved to TE. Taiwan should be playing for his life and career. Kelly & Seymour are borderline pitiful. ST’s is so bad like I said in pre-season it can cost us the game every week! This is a good week for our defense to get some swag.
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I can dig it
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Riff.
I watched the game, I watch every game, I don’t think I’ve missed one in years, I’m not Bill Belichik when it comes down to breaking tape and I’m sure you aren’t either.
Look, you constantly swing the conversation from Knapp back to the botched punts, Kelly’s off-sides and turnovers.
Well, let me “break it down to you”.
- Nobody blames Knapp for botching the punts, that’s obvious, we blame him for failing to convert on those drives, among others, you know you don’t have to punt unless you fail to pick up 10 yards, right?.
- Nobody blames Knapp for Kelly’s off-sides, but they ended up leading to just 7 points (even if SD still had to drive 59 yards to score after the 2 flags) shouldn’t we be able to overcome a freaking TD? and hoe does a couple of defensive flags early in the 2nd quarter affect your offensive game-plan and calling?.
By the way, SD was flagged for off-sides on a 3rd and 9 during our first drive after an incompletion, play was called back and we converted a more manageable 3rd and 4.
They were called for PI after an incompletion on 3rd and 2 during our first drive of the 3rd quarter.
And they were flagged twice on 4th downs in the final TD drive after two incompetions, chances are we don’t score if not for those 2 drive saving flags.
So, SD had their share of flags and prevailed, not an excuse for us.
- Nobody blames the turnover on Knapp either, yeah it was just one, you make it seem like we turned it over 3 or 4 times, it was just once, it costed us at least 3, maybe 7 but it was the 1st drive of the game, hardly something you can’t recover from.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Seymour played well last week? Ok he didn’t get tossed so I guess he is making strides.
smh
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Seymour and Kelly= Harry and Lloyd
September 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Why dont you girls quit crying about last week and Knapp. Brew some coffee, throw down some sausage & eggs, or pancakes. Squeeze some orange juice, go take a dump (if needed). Chill the FK out because in 90 mins you might have something new to b!tch about.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:15 am
That is a 33% winning percentage of the 10am games.
If I were to guess our winning % on the whole over that time period, would probably be right about 40%.
The better indicator, since all those games at 10am are road games, is what is our road record for games played in other time slots.
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If Klas counted correctly, Raiders record since 2003 is 45-99. Klas thins that is %32 winning record.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Raider O Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Allen said he had confidence in Goethel based on the way Goethel performed in practice.
“He’s worked on snapping the ball,” Allen said. “Actually he’s done a nice job in practice. It’s obviously a lot different when you get in a game-like situation. He was put in a tough situation and it hurt us.”
Goethel said he last long-snapped in a game back in high school. That was seven years ago or so. He said his practice time is limited to before full-team practices
When asked how many snaps Goethel gets during practice during a typical week, Lechler said: “Zero.”
Yet, there he was, the man on the spot when Condo went down.
How he got there is rather curious, too.
“(Allen) asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in there.”
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ZERO!!!
A guy who didn’t LS for 8 years doesn’t need practice during the Week?!
I blame DA and the Special Monkey aka Hoffman.
If they don’t practice LS during the week, maybe they didn’t practice the reverse. Who knows what else they didn’t practice during the week? Scoring?
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Ok, blame the DA and Hoffman. I think its a little harsh but I wont argue with you about it.
But if youre going to blame them for that, you have to back off Knapp.
Did you blame Gruden for Gannon getting hurt by Siragusa? No. So why blame the DA for a freak injury like Condo’s. It’s just not a common thing.
You have a way with logic buddy, you constantly accuse me of making ridiculous assumptions yet you are questioning whether they practiced that reverse or not simply because the backup long snapper wasnt prepared? That is so far a reach.
You got a agenda. Plain and simple. Some people just look at the evidence and then form an opinion. Others have an opinion and then seek out evidence to support it. Which version leaves a lot of the story out? The guys with an axe to grind with Knapp.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
What is Miamis Oline look like?
If they have to double up on Seymour or kelly, that frees up a spot and I bet the MS will spot it and take advantage right away, Something that has not been done in the past.
The bolts did not turn the ball over last week. One or two which we usually get would have made all the difference in that game
We will get those 2 turnovers this time and the front four will swamp the fin QB’s. I bet Ryan is hurt and gone before the secong half
September 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
29 points in 2 games our 2010 season started with!!!!!
Wake up people, it takes time.
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Fair stuff and it does take time, but that offense was coming from a 2009 season where averaged 12 ppg for the entire season, we have a lot more to work with in 2012.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Dink and dunk will get you FGs, play for FGs lose the game.
Krappy’s offense should not take more than 3 hours to learn, it’s ridiculous that people make excuses for Palmer or the OL for taking a whole pre-season to learn it, as if it was rocket science. Krappy is a proven moron, his career speaks for itself.
However, by playing it safe with the check downs and side-way dinks, Palmer doesn’t throw INTs, be careful what you wish for, once the game opens up the risk of Palmer throwing pick sixes gets higher.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Why dont you girls quit crying about last week and Knapp. Brew some coffee, throw down some sausage & eggs, or pancakes. Squeeze some orange juice, go take a dump (if needed). Chill the FK out because in 90 mins you might have something new to b!tch about.
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Knapp is garbage and we will win despite him and his lame WCO/SBS
September 16th, 2012 at 8:26 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Why dont you girls quit crying about last week and Knapp. Brew some coffee, throw down some sausage & eggs, or pancakes. Squeeze some orange juice, go take a dump (if needed). Chill the FK out because in 90 mins you might have something new to b!tch about.
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Nobody is going to stop b!tching about Knapp. Ever. He’s on a permanent sh!t list with some people.
Same with Jacoby, CP3, and Rolando.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Method, where you smoking the crack last night when you said Raiders and Miami score would be 34-31? No way will there be that many points scored.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
B,
Remember MR saying the middle east hated us because of Bu$h and now that Hussein is pres all his a$$ kissing & capitulation will result in radical muslims liking us for once ?
How did that hope change turn out? Kinda like the economy?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Anyone think Knapp could get fired if Raiders shutout today?
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No way. Knapp will be given as much time as he needs becuz the regime is “patient” enuff to allow for the complete install of this “new system”.
Winning is merely a preferable byproduct of the installation of the new ways of doing things in Oakland.
As Knapp said “it’s gonna take some time”. Although JFB has put a timeline to what that means (week after the bye) the regime has not been so forthcoming.
There’s a reason for that. It can be 3 yrs. and they can come back and say “we told u guys to be patient and this would take some time”.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Riff.
I watched the game, I watch every game, I don’t think I’ve missed one in years, I’m not Bill Belichik when it comes down to breaking tape and I’m sure you aren’t either.
Look, you constantly swing the conversation from Knapp back to the botched punts, Kelly’s off-sides and turnovers.
Well, let me “break it down to you”.
- Nobody blames Knapp for botching the punts, that’s obvious, we blame him for failing to convert on those drives, among others, you know you don’t have to punt unless you fail to pick up 10 yards, right?.
- Nobody blames Knapp for Kelly’s off-sides, but they ended up leading to just 7 points (even if SD still had to drive 59 yards to score after the 2 flags) shouldn’t we be able to overcome a freaking TD? and hoe does a couple of defensive flags early in the 2nd quarter affect your offensive game-plan and calling?.
By the way, SD was flagged for off-sides on a 3rd and 9 during our first drive after an incompletion, play was called back and we converted a more manageable 3rd and 4.
They were called for PI after an incompletion on 3rd and 2 during our first drive of the 3rd quarter.
And they were flagged twice on 4th downs in the final TD drive after two incompetions, chances are we don’t score if not for those 2 drive saving flags.
So, SD had their share of flags and prevailed, not an excuse for us.
- Nobody blames the turnover on Knapp either, yeah it was just one, you make it seem like we turned it over 3 or 4 times, it was just once, it costed us at least 3, maybe 7 but it was the 1st drive of the game, hardly something you can’t recover from.
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You act like those are all isolated incidents. I swing things back to the “19 pt swing” because it all happened in the same game. It’s too much for any team to overcome.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Dsiclaimer: I sincerely hope Knapp’s Offense, or is it the players only?….anyways, I hope we score 30 plus and us doubters can shut up for at least one week.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Raider O Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Allen said he had confidence in Goethel based on the way Goethel performed in practice.
“He’s worked on snapping the ball,” Allen said. “Actually he’s done a nice job in practice. It’s obviously a lot different when you get in a game-like situation. He was put in a tough situation and it hurt us.”
Goethel said he last long-snapped in a game back in high school. That was seven years ago or so. He said his practice time is limited to before full-team practices
When asked how many snaps Goethel gets during practice during a typical week, Lechler said: “Zero.”
Yet, there he was, the man on the spot when Condo went down.
How he got there is rather curious, too.
“(Allen) asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in there.”
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ZERO!!!
A guy who didn’t LS for 8 years doesn’t need practice during the Week?!
I blame DA and the Special Monkey aka Hoffman.
If they don’t practice LS during the week, maybe they didn’t practice the reverse. Who knows what else they didn’t practice during the week? Scoring?
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Ok, blame the DA and Hoffman. I think its a little harsh but I wont argue with you about it.
But if youre going to blame them for that, you have to back off Knapp.
Did you blame Gruden for Gannon getting hurt by Siragusa? No. So why blame the DA for a freak injury like Condo’s. It’s just not a common thing.
You have a way with logic buddy, you constantly accuse me of making ridiculous assumptions yet you are questioning whether they practiced that reverse or not simply because the backup long snapper wasnt prepared? That is so far a reach.
You got a agenda. Plain and simple. Some people just look at the evidence and then form an opinion. Others have an opinion and then seek out evidence to support it. Which version leaves a lot of the story out? The guys with an axe to grind with Knapp.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Riff.
“Nobody is going to stop b!tching about Knapp. Ever. He’s on a permanent sh!t list with some people.
Same with Jacoby, CP3, and Rolando.”
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That’s true and not fair either, jury’s still out on Knapp for me.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Goddamit i hate my computer….. but Riff long story short…yes I have an axe to grind…hell to use on Knapp’s head….I hate 49er offenses…and he has been jettisoned in 4 different cities for good reason
September 16th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Bob Marley Says:
- Nobody blames the turnover on Knapp either, yeah it was just one, you make it seem like we turned it over 3 or 4 times, it was just once, it costed us at least 3, maybe 7 but it was the 1st drive of the game, hardly something you can’t recover from.
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Streater…. 3pts
Reece….. 25 yards, field position, they get a fg
Three botched punts are basically the same as turnovers.
Its a 19 pt swing we can recover from. Spread those mistakes out over 4 games, and yeah, then we can start looking to point the finger somewhere else. Put them all in one game and I dont know why you expect us to be competitive. Seriously, you have to be more rational than that.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:32 am
*cant recover from
September 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
There is only 1 other idiot tr0ll idiot on this blog that continues to standup for R Seymour and that idiot tr0ll moron is Seymour Bush. Funny how Seymour & Klas have the same hyperlink on their account.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Seymour played well last week.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Dsiclaimer: I sincerely hope Knapp’s Offense, or is it the players only?….anyways, I hope we score 30 plus and us doubters can shut up for at least one week.
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We shouldve scored 30+ last week (no condo injury of course, 20+ with injury but no other mistakes)
We should score 30+ today.
I think a lot hinges on the true health of D17. If Im Miami, I test him and test him good.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
There is only 1 other idiot tr0ll idiot on this blog that continues to standup for R Seymour and that idiot tr0ll moron is Seymour Bush. Funny how Seymour & Klas have the same hyperlink on their account.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Seymour played well last week.
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Mista,
Richard aint our teams problem.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Method, where you smoking the crack last night when you said Raiders and Miami score would be 34-31? No way will there be that many points scored.
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Nope sober as can be……but you see what I said how the pts would be scored….I think both teams will turn it over and ST plays will go down….everyone predicting low scoring game and I’ll go with something closer to 30…I dont think the Raider D is really that good…SD really aint schit
I’ll stick with 34-31
September 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
There is only 1 other idiot tr0ll idiot on this blog that continues to standup for R Seymour and that idiot tr0ll moron is Seymour Bush. Funny how Seymour & Klas have the same hyperlink on their account.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Seymour played well last week.
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You so stupid. I bet a lot of different guys have had raider.com as their hyper link. And I thought Norwegians were morons?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:37 am
When does the chitty new pregame radio broadcast start?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
There is only 1 other idiot tr0ll idiot on this blog that continues to standup for R Seymour and that idiot tr0ll moron is Seymour Bush. Funny how Seymour & Klas have the same hyperlink on their account.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Seymour played well last week.
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Mista,
Richard aint our teams problem.
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Bullschit….aint he the leader of the team? Please….he sucks…..he needs to retire now…do the honorable thing
September 16th, 2012 at 8:38 am
I dont think the Raider D is really that good…SD really aint schit
I’ll stick with 34-31
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Miami offense is worse than Chargers.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raider Riff Says:
I dumped him a long time ago. Between him and Deion Sanders it was bible study 24/7 on my feed.
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I bet Napoleon Kaufman is bad too.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I didn’t say he was but he is over paid garbage.
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Raider Riff Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mista,
Richard aint our teams problem.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Pryor inactive.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/09/its-better-to-reign-in-hell.html
September 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Sometimes toast is sooooooo dam good if you toast it just right and slap the right amount of butter on it. On my 3rd slice now.
#LG
September 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Don’t see Condo on the inactives. That’s good news.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Method, where you smoking the crack last night when you said Raiders and Miami score would be 34-31? No way will there be that many points scored.
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Nope sober as can be……but you see what I said how the pts would be scored….I think both teams will turn it over and ST plays will go down….everyone predicting low scoring game and I’ll go with something closer to 30…I dont think the Raider D is really that good…SD really aint schit
I’ll stick with 34-31
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You think we will both put up that many points mostly with ST play? That is a bold statement.
So far, their ST play is supposedly very good. Hoffman has to be worried right now. That is a key matchup in this game.
Their D vs our O is a battle of strengths. D is generally a matter of hustle. O is generally a matter of execution. Hustle is more consistent than execution, so that is why D usually prevails. We need to execute today.
Their O vs our D seems to be a mismatch, no matter how overrated you may think our D is. There will be no excuse for letting a rookie beat us in this matchup.
We could win this close and low scoring, even with doing everything right (IF there D is that good). Or we could win this in a blowout. But under no circumstances should we lose this game.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Did you blame Gruden for Gannon getting hurt by Siragusa? No. So why blame the DA for a freak injury like Condo’s. It’s just not a common thing.
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I blamed DA & Hoffman for an injured Raider, or I’m blaming them for not having a player prepared (Goethlel). It’s simple so don’t make it rocket science.
It’s a fair question to ask our coaches:
If our backup LS doesn’t practice during the week, what else are we not practicing?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Klas, you are a sh!tbag tr0ll on a new alias.
true or false?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I didn’t say he was but he is over paid garbage.
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If you say he’s overpaid, and he’s garbage, how are you going to say he’s also not a problem?
September 16th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Riff.
Just so you know, I enjoy the back and forth, no hard feelings right?.
That being said, you told us that on MNF the Chargers were taking away the deep ball by playing 2 deep Safeties and we could not run right at them because their LB’s were selling out to stop the run, so Knapp kept calling plays over the soft middle which was wide open.
Question is, wasn’t that SD’s Defensive game-plan all along? and didn’t we play right into their hands by taking what was there?.
You know, they were probably happy to let us dink and dunk and pick up some yards, limit us to FG’s if possible……..as long as we didn’t establish the running game or make big-plays down the field?.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Raider O Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Did you blame Gruden for Gannon getting hurt by Siragusa? No. So why blame the DA for a freak injury like Condo’s. It’s just not a common thing.
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I blamed DA & Hoffman for an injured Raider, or I’m blaming them for not having a player prepared (Goethlel). It’s simple so don’t make it rocket science.
It’s a fair question to ask our coaches:
If our backup LS doesn’t practice during the week, what else are we not practicing?
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It may seem fair to ask. But Im trying to reassure you that NO TEAM ever goes into a game with a trick play like a reverse, without it being planned for. It’s a play that you set up a drive in advance for.
And rarely do teams ever give their backup longsnapper any reps during the week. I cant remember seeing it. But I didnt play on ST either. But everything Ive read and watched in videos this week has other former players saying that it is a freak occurance that most teams are probably ill prepared for.
You only have so much practice time with the players. You must use it as wisely as possible. Practicing a backup LS is never high on a priority list.
But lets tie this thing back to the orignal topic. If we can punt and we lose the field position battle then entire 2nd half, our OC and DC’s hands are tied.
We should have stopped punting after the 2nd botch. But damn, you try to make that call while on national TV. You’d piss your pants trying.
Either way, if you cant win field position, it makes it dang hard to score TDs. But if you want to continue to beat a dead drum, continue looking to blame Knapp. Boo him at every game. Hold up signs. Get in his head. Distract him and Reggie from doing their job. Make the Coliseum like an away game for him. That will surely fix things right?
Or maybe we should demand our players do the simple stuff like stay onsides and stop fumbling in critical junctures. I guess Im crazy for expecting superstars to be able to do the basic stuff.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:52 am
108.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Sometimes toast is sooooooo dam good if you toast it just right and slap the right amount of butter on it. On my 3rd slice now.
#LG
You missed the most important ingrediant
September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:38 am
I dont think the Raider D is really that good…SD really aint schit
I’ll stick with 34-31
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Miami offense is worse than Chargers.
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If history has taught us anything, it has taught that the Raiders can make ANY QB (rookie or otherwise) look like a hofamer.
Raiders will always do all they can to keep their opponent in the game…no matter how ‘bad’ we think that team is…and how bad they actually are, the Raiders prove they can indeed be worse on any given Sunday.
THAT has been the trend, and despite all our hope that it was gonna change, so far (as evidenced against SD)it hasn’t. SAME ol same ol as Dilfer pointed out.
I know ‘it’s just one game’ and we should ‘relax’, but when does it become more than that? After today, is it “hey, it’s only two games man..we’ve got 14 left”.?
Gotta win today. I don’t care if it’s by 30 or 1 pt.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:56 am
112.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Klas, you are a sh!tbag tr0ll on a new alias.
true or false?
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LOL Klas you behave better then most of your trolls, nonetheless MB just spoke the bitter truth
September 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
110,C’mon Riff it’s easy to create a scenario and excuse if we lose today.
It’s and east coast game with an early start. Raiders have to fly clear across country after playing Mon. nite…they may be gassed in the 2nd half (which was one of the big excuses after Buffalo last yr.)
Plus, man it’s hot down there and Miami is better than what they look on paper. AND..they just ‘have our number’.
IF we lose those excuses will be utilized.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Riff.
Just so you know, I enjoy the back and forth, no hard feelings right?.
That being said, you told us that on MNF the Chargers were taking away the deep ball by playing 2 deep Safeties and we could not run right at them because their LB’s were selling out to stop the run, so Knapp kept calling plays over the soft middle which was wide open.
Question is, wasn’t that SD’s Defensive game-plan all along? and didn’t we play right into their hands by taking what was there?.
You know, they were probably happy to let us dink and dunk and pick up some yards, limit us to FG’s if possible……..as long as we didn’t establish the running game or make big-plays down the field?.
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Hard feelings with you? Not at all. My life is great. Its sunny and Im eating Italian pasta tonite. Nobody on a blog is going to get me that bent out of shape.
I just know youre one of the smarter members here. Ive put things a million different ways to get you to see what is up and yet you still want to find a way to blame Knapp instead of just letting the evidence make the decision for you. It’s not your style.
But to answer your question….
SD’s gameplan was indeed that all along. But it is highly likely that they were expecting CP3 to eventually fall into his old ways and not be able to hold back from sending one deep. He did it a couple times in the preseason where he was baited into an INT.
SD doesnt have a bunch of pro bowlers on their team. They had to try and work with our weaknesses. Testing Palmer’s discipline and shutting down the run were their top two priorities.
Once they realized that CP3 wasnt taking the bait, they moved the safeties up and the CB’s relaxed a bit. But they never relaxed their LBs. It’s all on tape, go watch it again.
When they moved the Safeties up, CP3 did what elite QB’s do and he tried hitting them where it hurt. We had guys stretching the field on over half of our pass plays. That is why it is so funny when people call us a dink and dunk WCO. It didnt look like that to me. It looked like a Sid Gilman / WCO hybrid. But in reality, those two systems are more alike than the average fan knows. They both operate on the same principles, just one stretches the field wide, the other deep. Both are intented to dink and dunk until the defense cant take it anymore and they start to tighten things up, then you hit them deep. And you can do it on any play because on every play, someone is going deep. And with a QB of Palmers caliber, he knows before the ball is snapped what the D is trying to do. He rarely gets fooled by a team that lacks talent like SD did. You have to have talent if you really want to disguise things the way Pitt and Baltimore do.
If a defense ABSOLUTELY refuses to bring their safeties up (which is highly unlikely after youve scored on 3-4 early drives) then any OC will gladly just rack up the field goals. Long dink and dunk drives eventually take their toll on a defense and by the 2nd half, they are tired and the run game will open up. That is why defenses ALWAYS adjust and dont just let another team FG them to death.
The problem with us is, most teams expect us to implode so they dont have to adjust. We stop imploding and we will start dominating again. We have as much talent as anyone in the league. We may not be deep, but we are beyond capable of a SuperBowl run if we start playing to our potential.
How is that for a breakdown?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Riff,
That’s a nice breakdown. I agree with the “stop imploding” stuff.
That’s the problem..we keep doing that.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
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Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Barry_McKockiner: OAK 27~MIA 24
Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
Dakota: 21-10 raiders
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Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
IndianaRaider: miami 23 – oakland 20
Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
Marks hair: 48-3 RAAIDERS!
mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
MethodtomyMadness: 34-31 Raiders
MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
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raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
raidertbone: Raiders 26, Dolphins 17
realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
VaRaiderNation: Raiders 17 Fins 6