Live chat: Inside the Raiders, Tuesday at 1 p.m.
By Jon Becker
Monday, September 17th, 2012 at 11:33 pm in Oakland Raiders.
After a disastrous beginning to their season, what’s next for the Raiders? Steve Corkran has some opinions he’ll share during our Raiders live chat Tuesday at 1 p.m.
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September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
No Knapp!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Considering our offense is 15th in the league, which means we’re better than average, a couple of wrinkles and we’re in business. No reason to panic.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I know MR is having fun with the Ferrari thing, but the point is we have a capable offense that can score more than 13.5 points/ game. I think we averaged 22+ points last year without DMAC, a retired QB, and a few injured WRs.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Our ppg average was 16th in the league last year. Right in the middle. I believe mediocre is the term.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
I’m like our D, Old, tired, burned out and checking out for the night. G’nite guys, it’s been one of those days.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Ferraris aren’t quite in the middle of car rankings, are they? So it’s funny you would take an offense that was pretty much in the middle of the league last year and liken it to a “Ferrari”, isn’t it?
I didn’t coin the term, so you damn right I’m having fun with it.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
JB Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
mcfadden20
There was no personal attack. I was careful to be extra nice in my response. I merely stated what I believed based on your comments. Specifically that you seemed young, which you are at 25 and a little naive on certain topics – which I believe is evident. I even went on to say that I thought you were a good person, just a little off course on some things. Where’s the attack? I’m just expressing an opinion or observation if you will from an older person’s viewpoint. C’mon McFadden20, support your namesake and take on the jerks who are wrecking his career. I gotta believe you are not happy with McFadden’s new YPC under this new system. You have the right to be upset with this situation. Don’t just sit there and take it. If you do, you be sitting there by yourself sooner or later. If you are not moving forward you are moving backwards. Think about it.
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Yes I’m upset at how our running game is going but I’m happy with less ints from Palmer , even with no running game to support him …. I think that’s really impressive …and I really think our D will become better with Tarver … I have less confidence in Knapp but if his O can keep Palmer from throwing Interceptions even with worse OL then last year then I’m all for it and I believe our run blocking will improve ..there’s no way it should be this bad even with bed and breakfast line we did better run blocking and I really think It just has to do with being in a new scheme for these players and not the fault of the scheme
September 17th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
BTW, on the last thread, Armchair equated a fan protest against an offensive coordinator with a slave revolution. In case anyone missed it.
Between that and calling an offense that ranked 16th in points per game a “Ferrari”, I must say the laughs are plentiful in here tonight.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
That 2011 Raiders “Ferrari”:
http://goo.gl/htUKF
September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Anyways I’m out as well .. Hope to see my Raiders win and see the mood uplifted some what after the game .. Its really depressing in here after losses … Good night nation … Don’t fret it .. There are more important things in life than to worry about the team 24/7 … After we win the division it’s going to be really good feeling ..
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Everyone on Facebook…
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or bend over and drop the soap for Greg Knapp like Sullivan44 chooses to do???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
And don’t forget…here on this blog as well
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT YOU CAN GO DRINK A GALLON OF BLEACH!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
What’s wrong with having a little fun? Enjoy. I’m glad I could help.
Your ignoring the fact that we were 16th without an injured DMAC (the best player on our offense), and a retired QB who we traded for after we lost JC. We still managed to score enough to be 16th. We are ranked 31st, and Palmer had enough time to get in football shape, DMAC is healthy, so what is the problem? We are scoring 13.5 points/ game.
Knapp!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Drop the soap for Greg Knapp? Uh, no. I just think it’s kind of stupid to want to fire an offensive coordinator when after his second outing, his offense is ranked better than most in the league. I think some of you are really overreacting. And your arguments certainly lack perspective.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
That’s a lot of excuses for an offense you call a “Ferrari”, O.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Raiders have a tough week. A good opponent, and a hostile crowd, that will unfortunately be hostile toward the home team. I believe in our team. I believe in the Raiders. I don’t think they’ll be distracted. I think we get our first win Sunday. Big upset.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Everyone who is on Facebook:
Sullivan44…the self admitted 49er fan and Al Davis hater has decided that his best course of action is to kneel down and fellatiate Greg Knapp, despite the fact that Knapp is clearly leading our offense, and by extension our entire team, down into the abyss!
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or bend over and drop the soap for Greg Knapp like Sullivan44 chooses to do???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
September 17th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
ArmChair, be sure to tell everyone on the facebook page that if they don’t support this movement to fire greg knapp, they’re uncle toms!
September 18th, 2012 at 12:00 am
The slave delegation wants to replace cracker Greg Knapp with cracker Al Saunders.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 am
If Hue Jackson was our OC, we would be not be 0-2.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Hue got carried away often with trick plays and gambles. Setbacks from that could have been enough to keep us from winning these past 2 games alone, much less having no long snapper in one game and Carson being pitifully off in another.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Reggie was schooled in a system which relies on good football players and effective game planning. Hue was a gambler. Not a fit.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
ArmChair, be sure to tell everyone on the facebook page that if they don’t support this movement to fire greg knapp, they’re uncle toms!
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Frosty Farrakhan, please tell us how Greg Knapp is gonna lead us to the Promised Land again!
September 18th, 2012 at 12:22 am
why revamp an entire team when its just the OC? coaches play musical chairs these days without loyalty so lets go after Atlantas’ OC. He did a good job tonight vs denver. We are the Raiders. Al Davis would have know how to get it done. Steelers will come in here sunday shakin a leg cause they’ll be tryin to get rid of the do-do they soiled themselves with. Raiders gonna win. In spite of knapp. Take that knapp loyalists. What has he done for you. We are the Raiders, we will overcome.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:24 am
When Hue lost his mentor, it was rightly so he did not have anyone to turn to for advice. Reggies first move was no a smart one. Hue needed to finish what he started. Hue was good when Al was here, he had someone to talk to. If the Raiders start to win, all the haters will go bye-bye.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Buh-Bye haters. Raiders gonna beat the steelers in spite of knapp. Hows that tickle your crotch. Cant have your cake and eat it too?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Raiders gonna womp on the steelers and knapp is gonna be yellin at CP3 and DMAC for not executing the plays he sent in. But CP3 and DMAC and company will be puutin up points. To funny.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Raiders gonna win in spite of knapp. To cool.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:30 am
Our only hope to salvage this season is for CP3 and DMAC to go rogue on knapp.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Its funny when the coaches and the loyalists say we dont have the personel that fits the ZBS and the WCO. What they really should change their mind set to is we dont have the coaches that fit the player personel.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Hey Reggie Mister GM sir….
Please check out the link….from 5 months ago….
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/04/28/mckenzie-and-allen-transcript/#comments
& Refer to my post which states:
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
This is a pass happy league now a days…
Going into a season with corners who didn’t have quality time the previous season is a huge risk….
A risk that is not necessary.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:39 am
Hey Reggie….thought you might like this video….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU6m5UqLx9M
September 18th, 2012 at 2:21 am
Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson as the starting cornerbacks. Phillip Adams and Coye Francies are in reserve
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wow!!
think I might bench Tom Brady in favor of Big Ben in Dell’s FFL this week
September 18th, 2012 at 2:25 am
well, hats off to JFB
He called the secondary a collective turd sandwich back in February, March & April heading up to the draft and wanted a CB with our first pick in RD3
Even called it a “passing league” which makes it all the more important to have a solid cast of DB’s
Attn: Reggie McKenzie
listen to our blog GM !!
September 18th, 2012 at 2:28 am
Michael Huff to play some CB?
uh oh. hope this doesn’t cause Raider O & Dell to start swinging purses again!!
September 18th, 2012 at 2:30 am
Willie Smith to start at RT?
dumped by Shanarat, we claimed this guy off waivers.
He’s already ahead of Barks & Bergs … who have been here with Knapp & Pollack all offseason??
September 18th, 2012 at 3:00 am
tale of two halfs for Peyton Manning last night
horrible to start, strong finish
pretty much the opposite of OAK’s WK2
2nd half collapse/meltdown
September 18th, 2012 at 4:10 am
4.
Sullivan,
Yeah and we are 31st in scoring so far this season. 27 total points. 13.5 ppg.
Get a clue and remove Allen’s sack from your mouth.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:18 am
Had to wait till today to post – was just to depressed yesterday.
Just shocked at how,in less than a week,the season seems to be over.There doesn’t seem to be any offense at all.The plan doesn’t fit the people.It bad when you don’t have a plan B but it’s criminal when you don’t have a plan A.Can’t understand the thinking behind the coaching.
I’d be the first to hold up my hand and say I don’t know squat ’bout coaching – but you don’t have to be a football genius to know that something is seriously wrong.
It’s going to be a long season.
Again…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 am
we are 31st in scoring so far this season. 27 total points. 13.5 ppg.
Get a clue and remove Allen’s sack from your mouth.
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Red,
Reggie = Rookie GM
Dennis = Rookie HC
Greg = Proven loser
Jason = Rookie DC
we’re not going to dominate right away
September 18th, 2012 at 4:33 am
RR,
I get the rookie GM, HC, and DC part of it. What I don’t get is the loser retread OC that the rookie HC hired and the rookie GM approved.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:33 am
We might as well have hired a Rookie OC, too!
let him take his lumps early with the rest of the staff and let them all grow up together as 1 collective unit
Question: How many wins does DA have to bring home in order to keep his job?
Or is he back again next year, even if we win 4 games or less??
September 18th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Knapp was one of the few coaches under contract who we were actually allowed to interview.. you can tell how much the Texans are missing him
Pollack, Leinart & Brisiel, too
dump all 4
September 18th, 2012 at 4:47 am
Neilb Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:18 am
Had to wait till today to post – was just to depressed yesterday.
Just shocked at how,in less than a week,the season seems to be over.There doesn’t seem to be any offense at all.The plan doesn’t fit the people.It bad when you don’t have a plan B but it’s criminal when you don’t have a plan A.Can’t understand the thinking behind the coaching.
I’d be the first to hold up my hand and say I don’t know squat ’bout coaching – but you don’t have to be a football genius to know that something is seriously wrong.
It’s going to be a long season.
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Actually, it’d be better to turn it around under Knapp or delegate some play calling to Saunders and have Knapp upstairs to SEE what is actually going on. The worse it gets,the more likelier the draft position strengthens and you get better(?) players in the top 10 –
I dont get how at least ONE experienced coordinator was tabbed on either side – Wiz leaving was a big warning sign.
Reggie = Rookie GM (who allowed his HC to pick his own staff)
Dennis = Rookie HC
Greg = Proven loser (agreed)
Jason = Rookie DC
its about what reputation is borne from this and who could lure quality FAs in the offseason
September 18th, 2012 at 4:48 am
“Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.” Mahatma Gandhi
Winning teams have players that make plays when given the opportunity. We used to know what that looked like.
This blog is home to officially the dumbest fans in sports. Im convinced.
You guys are so trained in the Al Davis way.
According to the mob, “Reggie is to blame” because he didnt mortgage the future even more and go sign another bust free agent.
According to the mob, “The coaching staff is to blame” because our players once again showed no heart and folded in the second half.
I used to be anti-Knapp until I saw the way CP3 was being treated by you dolts during the preseason. Despite 3 dropped TD passes, you guys wanted him gone. So I started to question why everyone hated Knapp, especially since we were moving the ball fine. You guys had made up your mind long before a ball was ever snapped and so despite anything our players do wrong, you will stick to your belief on the matter rather than actually watch the game from an objective viewpoint.
NONE of you are qualified to judge talent or break down a defense, yet you think you can just by looking at the raw numbers. If youre one of those people, consider yourself stupid as FVCK. Think about it again, you are literally judging people in a position that you have never done yourself and dont have the slightest clue on. That is the definition of stupidity.
Here’s a bit of info for you losers, coaches dont throw away gameplans mid-game. Especially when they are working. If the team is moving the ball down the field, and a player fumbles the ball (Streater) you dont scrap the gameplan that you spent all week preparing. You stick with it and hope the players dont screw up. If they fumble the reverse (Reece) you dont scrap the gameplan either. If your DBs miss 4 easy tackles against Reggie Bush, you dont scrap your defensive gameplan. It was working, your players werent. You stick with what you prepared for just like Miami did against us. You idiots dont have a clue how a game plan is prepared during the week. Yet you think that there is some sort of magic halftime adjustments that we should have made. We had nearly 200 yds of offense and were winning at the half. If DMC catches the easy screen we are up 14-7 and getting the ball back. YOU DONT NEED TO ADJUST ANYTHING. Miami sure as hell didnt. They stuck with their gameplan because they knew eventually we would fold just like we always do. Our opening drive of the 2nd half Palmer misses Moore on a wide open play. Again, what is their to adjust when all you need is the QB to make a basic throw.
But after a while, when the mistake begin to pile up, what the hell is a OC supposed to do. You dont set your scheme up planning on it not working because your guys choke. Mistakes happen, sure, but when they happen on nearly every possession, the OC’s hands are tied. I know this may be a surprise to some of you clowns, but there is no magic 80 play just sitting in the back of the playbook that the coach is saving for when times get tough. This isnt Madden on the XBox. You score points with 10-15 yard drives. If that is too much to ask, then your players are garbage. The only time you see plays of 20 yards or more is when their is a breakdown by the other team. There are no plays designed for more than that. Coaches are too conservative, all of them. But none of you jackals would know that. The typical Raider fan wants all go routes on 1st down every drive. And if that doesnt result in a TD. Then they want that other magic play that all good OCs just keep in their back pocket and save for only when things get rough. Its a magic play that is so “creative” no defense can stop and no offensive player can screw up.
The bottom line is that the opposing team made plays when put into position too. We found ways to drop passes in the red zone. They make less mistakes than we do, and make more plays. Yet some of you want a system designed where DMC doesnt have to catch that ball and the OLine doesnt have to block for him the rest of the game. If youre one of those people, slap yourself for being so dumb.
4 guys had a chance to tackle Bush on his first TD. But that isnt enough apparently. Tarver should have called a “different special scheme”.
Reggie Bush runs a 64 yard TD. The Dolphins dont commit a stupid penalty. We run two huge punts back, and our guys get called for penalties and its brought back. That is the difference between a winner and a loser. If you cant see that, you are dumb as hell.
Our players find ways to lose. Always have and always will until we turn over a new leaf.
The average so-called Raider fan here would rather lose the Raider way, then win by any means necessary.
The Raider way constitutes 40 yard bombs on first down and lord knows what other magic you guys expect out of our limited roster.
Sorry, this is the NFL. That crap doesnt work anymore. Al was welcome to get out of the owners box and onto the sideline himself at any time if he thought his system was so great. But he didnt. He sat there and meddled and micro managed from afar. Newsflash, that isnt how you win in the NFL and Reggie isnt going to be that kinda guy either.
Palmer isnt blaming the system. DMC isnt blaming the system. Yet you guys are. So if you disagree with DMC, you are dumb as FVCK. DMC came into the league a ZBS running back. He’s excelled in it before. But the dummies will ignore it because it doesnt fit the agenda.
The OLine is not doing their job. Its not because they are not capable (tho that is debatable) it is because they are just getting beat off the ball like a bunch of pu55ies.
Teams know our OLine has no push. They will continue to key in on DMC. They will continue to give us the soft pass. And if we continue to drop passes, miss blocks, and make mistakes, we will find ourselves down in the 2nd half where we will be in pass-only situations. And then our OLine really goes to work in trying to get Palmer killed.
You guys are mad that Reece has no special packages. Blame Reece. The lazy fvck held out of the OTAs when everyone and their mother knew he was in a position he could not win. He had no reason to hold out other than to avoid being there. He eventually got his deal, just like he always was going too. But blame Reggie, just like you blame him for Wimbley getting out of dodge. As if Reggie was going to “convince” Wimbley to take a pay cut of several million dollars. This is beyond asinine.
But go ahead and blame a system you arent qualified to pick apart. If what Im saying here pisses you off, it is because the truth hurts.
And if youre one of the idiots clamoring for a mid season scheme change, do the gene pool a favor and castrate yourself. Im tired of sugar coating things for you dumba55es. Nothing but a bunch of $50 a month internet connections and 10 cent brains. Im done playing nice, if you say something stupid, Im calling you out for it.
Im done with this blog. I dont mind being around idiots. But this place takes it to another level. If I continue to sit here and try to convert the stubborn and dumb into educated and informed, then Im a idiot no different than the rest of you.
This transition to respectability is going to be tough for a lot of you to deal with. You think our 8-8 team last year should have been 10-6 when we easily could have been 4-12. I feel everyones pain. Im hurting just like the rest of you. But you wont see me boo’ing my coaching staff and causing a player revolt. We’ve tried that in years past and that got us what? Nothing.
Hue had the same problems. Our offensive players let him down plenty when it counted. You wont remember that. Just like you wont remember that he wanted to gut this roster as much as Reggie does at the moment.
Its time the players look themselves in the mirror and decide who they are.
They watch the film. And it doesnt lie. They know the mistakes they are making. The coaches are pointing it out. And for the first time in their careers, they dont have daddy Al to run too.
This team can turn it around at any point it wants. And it will. When it finally realizes Al is gone. They havent realized it. You guys still live in denial as well.
I hope Reggie stays the course and doesnt buckle to you jackals that plan on boo’ing our team off the field against Pitt. Cause Im sick of the losing attitudes. Im sick of Tommy Kelly whining about not knowing what happened. You know damn well what happened fat-boy. Your mates made Reggie Bush look like Earl Campbell on his first TD run. Your D-Line got just one sack on a rookie QB that wont win 4 games total this year. Our LBs were out of place and let them walk down our throats on the opening drive. Our CBs played 15 yards off of one of the worst WR corps in the history of the league.
Cant convert on 3rd down? That is because on 3rd & 7, DHB runs a 5 yard route. And instead of just falling forward and easily picking up the next 6 feet needed, he dances around and two guys have the time to swarm him. You guys want deeper routes? Their are WRs running longer routes. But they run them sloppy. And Our OLine has to hold up for longer to give Palmer time. He’s going to his hot read because in obvious pass situations, our OLine doesnt hold up to a simple 5 man rush even if the RB stays in to help. It is 6 against 4 and we still get beat. But I know some of you have trouble counting so Iets ignore our O-Lines inability to win the battle even when they have the numbers in their favor.
The moment you start blaming the coaching staff, something you are not even remotely qualified to do, instead of blaming the players for obvious errors (penalties, lazy routes, dropped passes, turnovers, missed tackles, missed blocks) then you are advocating the old way.
Lose field position, lose the turnover battle, and lose the penalty battle and you will never win more than you lose. Those are all player mistakes. Our list is so long of mistakes we make during a game, I can no longer sit back and ignore it. Winners make the plays. Losers find ways to run lazy routes, drop passes, turn the ball over, commit critical penalties, and miss tackles.
But keep ignoring it. Al did. So you will. It is what you are all conditioned to do so you will continue to do so. Boo our team and make the home field an away game and see just how fast Mark moves the Raiders to LA. Give him a “reason to commit the treason”, and he will do it.
Knuckleheads. All of you. But look at me, Im expecting a smarter player and a smarter fanbase. I must not have been paying attention the last 30 years.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Hey 44 I have been a loyal fan for over 40 years, I know hiring Knapp was a mistake, so do me a favor you want to go one on one and talk strategy and concepts I am all for it, otherwise blow it out your rear.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:57 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Hey 44 I have been a loyal fan for over 40 years, I know hiring Knapp was a mistake, so do me a favor you want to go one on one and talk strategy and concepts I am all for it, otherwise blow it out your rear.
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Awesome. So now being a fan for 40 years qualifies you to break down game tape.
Send your resume into the team, any team, they need guys of your massive qualifications.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:01 am
And you are qualified, how? Why? Don’t tear down the entire blog due to a few vastly under qualified and misinformed fans. You want my resume I will glad to send it to you. And to your point about breaking down game tape not necessary when I am watching disaster in front of my own eyes. Maybe you should be watching a team like the patriots we don’t need your bold BS here.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:21 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:01 am
And you are qualified, how? Why? Don’t tear down the entire blog due to a few vastly under qualified and misinformed fans. You want my resume I will glad to send it to you. And to your point about breaking down game tape not necessary when I am watching disaster in front of my own eyes. Maybe you should be watching a team like the patriots we don’t need your bold BS here.
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Dont look at my qualifications. Im not the one asking for Knapp to get fired.
I am the one asking the players to run crisp routes and stop with the other stupid mistakes. You dont need qualifications to see a RB drop a easy catch in the red zone.
You do need qualifications to be saying whether a OCs scheme is working or not.
Again, just because you are a fan of 40+ years, doesnt qualify you for anything but being a fan. If that stings, its because it is true.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Really OK, listen you obviously don’t get it, you try to come off as some high brow guru of player breakdowns and critiques, well I am critiquing you, my thoughts are very clear, 2 years ago hue Jackson finally got the train on track and the players not only bought but excelled, last year he suffered from megalomania and not only was coach, not only coordinator but play caller, to me major mistake in my book too much responsibility and it showed. This year essentially offense new scheme, run by someone will little credibility
You want to confront me no problem I can blow you away, try me. Btw my IQ is 136
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Again…..
I’m the first to say I’m not an expert and sorry if I sounded pessimistic.
I didn’t expect the Raiders to win the superbowl this year,or the near future for that matter.What I did expect was to see some kind of improvement.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:33 am
An I.Q. of 136 is nothing.It just means you’re as smart as 68 geordies.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:33 am
Neilb Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Again…..
I’m the first to say I’m not an expert and sorry if I sounded pessimistic.
I didn’t expect the Raiders to win the superbowl this year,or the near future for that matter.What I did expect was to see some kind of improvement.
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Our GM is letting the coaches do their job
He’s geting our cap under control
He’s going to start dumping the bums
That is an improvement over the last 30+ years. It aint what we all want and deserve so soon. But it was sorely needed. Al never wanted to rebuild, he just wanted to reload. And it wasnt going to work as long as he was meddling. Those days are over. Its going to sting at first, but we will appreciate it in the end.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:34 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Really OK, listen you obviously don’t get it, you try to come off as some high brow guru of player breakdowns and critiques, well I am critiquing you, my thoughts are very clear, 2 years ago hue Jackson finally got the train on track and the players not only bought but excelled, last year he suffered from megalomania and not only was coach, not only coordinator but play caller, to me major mistake in my book too much responsibility and it showed. This year essentially offense new scheme, run by someone will little credibility
You want to confront me no problem I can blow you away, try me. Btw my IQ is 136
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And you have a football IQ of 7. So what is your point?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:37 am
I agree improvement based on a defense that had nowhere to go but up and an offense that could be powerful, there is a major problem here
September 18th, 2012 at 5:39 am
Oh, I am so hurt, screw you, you have no clue what you talking about actually you are OK for someone who is sub moronic
September 18th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:37 am
I agree improvement based on a defense that had nowhere to go but up and an offense that could be powerful, there is a major problem here
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Yeah, its called players that find ways to lose.
Fumbles, holding penalties on big run backs, running the wrong route, running lazy routes when the play isnt designed for you, QB missing wide open players on 3rd down, OLineman that are getting stomped at the POA, RB’s that cant pick up the blitz, etc etc etc.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Starting to think that Raider Riff and Sullivan are the two smartest football minds on this blog. Yeah, Klas said it.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Riff…(Italy right?)
It’s going to be a cold,long winter if all the Raiders do is get the cap sorted.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Starting to think that Raider Riff and Sullivan are the two smartest football minds on this blog. Yeah, Klas said it.
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PLEASE dont lump me in with Sullivan.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:45 am
raider riff i kinda feel bad for you. you mock everyone on this blog yet you keep coming back. your obviously a frustrated person. why dont you start your own website and call it “i look at every play twice so i’m better than you or maybe i was a college athlete who didnt make so i’m angry at you”. your first column could be “jeff George- one of the best ever at reading defenses-”LOL ,,still laughing from yesterday
i understand the players have a hand in it, but our OL is almost intact from last year and Dmac looks to me like he’s healthy again. Yet Dmac is performing at a 2yds per carry average.I also dont think Dmac is dogging it , but in my humble opinion its fair to question is the ZBS an issue at this point. Maybe the entire line is tanking it and DMAC is to blame while Knapp’s philosophy is spot on. Who knows. But ignoring Knapps history of failure and Dmac previous success under a power blocking scheme is foolish. It may only be part of the answer but something feels alot different offensively than last year right?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:45 am
I hate to say it, but last year to me was not promising, I saw some very positive signs dhb showing maturity the o line playing well for the most part, but the d was in shambles.
I am just shocked at how everything has just gone down the drain in one year. We were out coached last year and we are again out coached again
September 18th, 2012 at 5:45 am
Neilb Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Riff…(Italy right?)
It’s going to be a cold,long winter if all the Raiders do is get the cap sorted.
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Aint that the truth. That is why Im praying these guys snap out of it and start delivering. They can do it at any point and run with any team in the league. It’s gut check time.
Im heading back to Cali next month. Vacation over.
I was looking forward to going to some games but not if they continue this crap. No way. Been to close to 100 games in my life & I got close to 20 jerseys in my closet, Im not wasting any more money on this crap.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:45 am
raider riff i kinda feel bad for you. you mock everyone on this blog yet you keep coming back. your obviously a frustrated person. why dont you start your own website and call it “i look at every play twice so i’m better than you or maybe i was a college athlete who didnt make so i’m angry at you”. your first column could be “jeff George- one of the best ever at reading defenses-”LOL ,,still laughing from yesterday
i understand the players have a hand in it, but our OL is almost intact from last year and Dmac looks to me like he’s healthy again. Yet Dmac is performing at a 2yds per carry average.I also dont think Dmac is dogging it , but in my humble opinion its fair to question is the ZBS an issue at this point. Maybe the entire line is tanking it and DMAC is to blame while Knapp’s philosophy is spot on. Who knows. But ignoring Knapps history of failure and Dmac previous success under a power blocking scheme is foolish. It may only be part of the answer but something feels alot different offensively than last year right?
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DMC is not to blame. I wish he had better field vision, but it isnt the big issue here. I wont be looking at his instincts until the OLine starts winning at the line of scrimmage. They have to create a new line of scrimmage, but they are not.
A large part of that is the defense is just plain loading up on us. We need to make them pay in the passing game before any team will back off DMC and our running game.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Ny raider my point exactly, why does the offense look like crap, why with most if not all of the same players they look decidedly worse, wait a minute we lost wiz, and we have new offense, oh, maybe that could be it?
And I will say it again, more day night after totally misusing McFadden the frustration on his face was so clearly evident.
He is going along with the program because he is an employee and a d getting paid
The new scheme sucks understand that.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Be back later Raiders.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Mornin’ a.m. crew.
I checked in with the evening group last night…man, what a sh!tpile. Nothing but people pining for Hue Jackson and cursing Reggie McKenzie. It was comical. Glad y’all are here to talk football.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:54 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Mornin’ a.m. crew.
I checked in with the evening group last night…man, what a sh!tpile. Nothing but people pining for Hue Jackson and cursing Reggie McKenzie. It was comical. Glad y’all are here to talk football.
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Morning PA.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I hear ya, PA! It was like that all day here yesterday!
I told myself years ago that I will never let what the team does (or doesn’t do in this case) effect me! If I let it, I would be locked up, or 6 feet under!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Hue was a joke, a guy who ass kissed All for a job, cut crappy cable down and then tried to showboat, he stinks! Reggie will get this ship righted, and I think DA will be fine, but I am concerned about the offense and the changes, on d I said it numerous times, Kelly and Seymour need to go.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Pretty awesome rant, Raider Riff. Always give props to a good catharsis even if I don’t agree with all of it.
Loved both of these though:
“The average so-called Raider fan here would rather lose the Raider way, then win by any means necessary.”
“Im sick of Tommy Kelly whining about not knowing what happened. You know damn well what happened fat-boy.”
1) You’re absolutely right with that assertion. For proof, just go look at the comments made on this blog last night. Just unbelievable stupidity.
2) Deep down, he does: he and his fellows just aren’t that talented and haven’t been for years.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Hue was a joke, a guy who ass kissed All for a job, cut crappy cable down and then tried to showboat, he stinks! Reggie will get this ship righted, and I think DA will be fine, but I am concerned about the offense and the changes, on d I said it numerous times, Kelly and Seymour need to go.
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I’ll be watching the interior D bigtime this week on the film. I’ll let you know if they are really the problem.
Off the top of my head, the problem I saw in the run game was the same as its always been, LBs missing their gaps and DEs & CBs not sealing the edges. You cant blame Kelly or Rich for either of Bush’s big runs. Honestly, our interior guys are doing their job inside from what I saw. But that was watching it live, I’ll have a better analysis after the 3rd or 4th time thru. If Rich and Kelly are the problem, I’ll have no problem saying it.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:00 am
I can’t wait to see some of the comments Cork gets during the chat today.
Granted, I’m as pessimistic as the majority. Still not changing my prediction of a 45-10 Steelers victory on Sunday.
But I can’t wait for some of the reactionary sh!t he’s going to get “REGGIE IS A FAILURE FIRE DENNIS ALLEN BRING BACK HUE JACKSON”
September 18th, 2012 at 6:00 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Pretty awesome rant, Raider Riff. Always give props to a good catharsis even if I don’t agree with all of it.
Loved both of these though:
“The average so-called Raider fan here would rather lose the Raider way, then win by any means necessary.”
“Im sick of Tommy Kelly whining about not knowing what happened. You know damn well what happened fat-boy.”
1) You’re absolutely right with that assertion. For proof, just go look at the comments made on this blog last night. Just unbelievable stupidity.
2) Deep down, he does: he and his fellows just aren’t that talented and haven’t been for years.
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Thanks for reading. It’s my frustration boiling over. Ive been adding to it and slowly editing it over the last two days. Im going to post it in every new story Cork puts up until people start to get it.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:01 am
You cant blame Kelly or Rich for either of Bush’s big runs
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Yep…Can’t remember the circumstances of the 2nd one, but when FOUR supposedly NFL caliber defensive backs miss tackles on a guy who is decidedly not Jim Brown, you can’t blame anyone but them.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:03 am
I agree with the statement that teams were loading up in the box and although CP had decent stats , he didnt make the key pass when needed. i felt their were 3 plays that could have given us big momentum. The first was the dropped int on tannehill’s first pass, not an easy play but it should have been made by wheeler. if Wheeler holds on i think it would have severely hurt tannehill’s confidence and it would have been a different game. The second is obviously when CP held on to the ball too long and DMAC drops a pass hell catch 98 out of 100 times which would have given us a td before half.The 3rd was on 3rd and 6 from our 6 when dmoore was wide open for a slant and palmer made a bad throw. that completion might have went for a long distance and at a minimum we would have good field position. instead we punt miami gets the ball with good field position scores to take the lead and we cave in from there.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Furthermore, I know Kelly wants us to be good. The guy really does care.
But its time he stops wondering why and he goes and grabs the DBs by the balls (literally) to check if they got any. Our DBs made Reggie look like Earl Campbell on that first TD.
The team really does need to bring Romonowski into the film room this week for when they watch this game. I’d love to be there. I’d go absolutely apesh!t on these guys. I cannot take this crap anymore. They need to man the F up.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:05 am
People might hate me for this but so be it:
Sullivan is absolutely right to assert that this calling Hue jackson’s offense a “Ferrari” is pure stupidity. It was a league average offense. It just looked like a Ferrari compared to the ineptness we’d grown used to.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:03 am
I agree with the statement that teams were loading up in the box and although CP had decent stats , he didnt make the key pass when needed. i felt their were 3 plays that could have given us big momentum. The first was the dropped int on tannehill’s first pass, not an easy play but it should have been made by wheeler. if Wheeler holds on i think it would have severely hurt tannehill’s confidence and it would have been a different game. The second is obviously when CP held on to the ball too long and DMAC drops a pass hell catch 98 out of 100 times which would have given us a td before half.The 3rd was on 3rd and 6 from our 6 when dmoore was wide open for a slant and palmer made a bad throw. that completion might have went for a long distance and at a minimum we would have good field position. instead we punt miami gets the ball with good field position scores to take the lead and we cave in from there.
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EXACTLY
Those are HUGE plays. All of them. That change the entire complexion of a game.
Youre starting to get it. There is hope for you after all.
As long as the OC is getting the players opportunities like that, no OC in the history of football is going to see a reason to change the gameplan. If players are open for big plays, it means he scouted properly and they are getting the matchups they want. You dont stop doing that, you keep doing it.
But you combine those plays you listed with the holding calls on the run backs, and the D’s big runs they GAVE Reggie Bush, and then it is just too much for any team, staff, fan base to overcome and deal with.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Klas very tempted to bet money on Steelers this week.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:08 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:05 am
People might hate me for this but so be it:
Sullivan is absolutely right to assert that this calling Hue jackson’s offense a “Ferrari” is pure stupidity. It was a league average offense. It just looked like a Ferrari compared to the ineptness we’d grown used to.
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it always broke down in the red zone last year. Jano saved Hue many times with his pro bowl year
September 18th, 2012 at 6:08 am
The team really does need to bring Romonowski into the film room this week for when they watch this game. I’d love to be there. I’d go absolutely apesh!t on these guys. I cannot take this crap anymore. They need to man the F up
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I loved Allen’s tactic of making the whole team watch the debacle together. No going off to hide and process your failure with your fellow position groups. Nope, you gotta watch it and face up to it in front of the whole roster. It’s like DA is saying “Now, what are you gonna do about it?”
Accountability. I love it.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Michael Turner arrested for DUI last night. He my fantasy RB. Already lost Fred Jackson to injury, now this clown gets arrested?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Last night’s game…Peyton throwing 3 INTs in the first quarter hurt them…but, they came back…we got a tough 3 games ahead of us with 2 on the road! ESPN predicted our first win against Jacksonville! Well, if we can’t stop the ONLY player on that team (MJD)…
September 18th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Im watching the opening drive right now, and Burris and McClain just looked lost as fvck.
The miss their gaps on nearly ever run. I like both players but dang, they could not have played worse on the opening drive.
And for the record, on about half the plays, Rich and Kelly are occupying between 3-4 lineman between the two of them. The O-Lineman are not pushing them back.
Our LBs had a much worse game against the Fins than they did against the Chargers.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Michael Turner arrested for DUI last night. He my fantasy RB. Already lost Fred Jackson to injury, now this clown gets arrested?
Michael Turner celebrated a win last night…wow!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Nyraider makes a good point.
The Wheeler dropped INT could’ve changed the whole complexion of the game and given the Dolphins and Tannehill a “here we go again” feeling. Instead they marched right down the field.
That INT is the play a true game-changing *playmaker* makes and speaks to Cork’s point about the defense lacking a true game changer like Patrick Willis or Troy Polamalu in his prime.
I don’t have patience with the people on Reggie’s case for many reasons but one of them is that he’s still dealing with so many players who have the rot in them from the last years…with the exception of Branch (who is overrated but still good) look to every DB who missed a tackle on that Bush run. Look to Kelly. Look to McClain. These are guys who, despite being talented in many ways, have internalized a losing culture and who ultimately have gotta go.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 am
It seems like Chekwa would be better option than Pat Lee.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Was t someone here that started the fire knapp FB page? Lmao
September 18th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Do it klas, my bet is already in. I bumped it up to 6.5 and it pays a little more than double. Ben will torch our secondary. It’s gonna be ugly at the coliseum.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Im watching the opening drive right now, and Burris and McClain just looked lost as fvck.
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I’m willing to go easier on Burris because he’s a 4th round rookie pressed into emergency starting duties. Those mistakes are what Allen talks about when he mentions a learning curve and growing pains. I really think they’re onto something with that kid, though.
McClain though? No excuse. Supposed to a franchise MLB and it’s his 3rd season. He needs to realize his instincts are sh!t and stop gambling since he ALWAYS GUESSES WRONG. Stick to your assignment and you might be serviceable, dude.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I just got done with the opening drive.
Nothing but VERY poor LB play.
And then we pull Burris for whatever reason and their run game stalls. That is, until they do the bootleg where ShoNasty does what all Raider DEs love to do which is not do their job and cover the boot. He bit the play action HARD. Easy TD by Tannenhill.
Should have been 3 points only. Breakdown by our player makes it 7. Getting straight up beat by a good play is one thing. Forgetting the fundamentals and allowing a breakdown-TD is unacceptable.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:17 am
88.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 am
It seems like Chekwa would be better option than Pat Lee.
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I had thought Lee could at least hold his own. Man, was I wrong.
It’s one thing if it was the Steeler game and he’d gotten torched by Mike Wallace. But Brian Hartline? No reason for it.
Kind of interested in that Antwaun Molden guy they worked out. He had a decent year with New England last season and I’m a little surprise he hasn’t found work even as a depth guy.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:18 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
guys who, despite being talented in many ways, have internalized a losing culture and who ultimately have gotta go.
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Sad but true. I love some of our guys but the only way to truly rid yourself of the losing cancer is to dump some guys you’d love to keep.
Fresh faces will go a long way in this regard.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:19 am
I love that Allen held EVERYONE responsible for whatever you want to call that on Sunday in Miami! A page from Bellichek! It was said that even if you do good, like Tom Brady, you’re not safe because he will pick out what you did wrong and let you have it! Maybe that is what we need!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:20 am
You guys remember web Allen was hired? We were supposed to interview the Denver OC, the one that changed the whole offense in a week to better suit Tebow. He did a great job in-season.
I was really hoping for this guy because he showed he can coach. That was an amazing job to turn that team around. Well, for whatever reason he backed out of the interview and Reggie then interviews Allen, a name we did t hear about until the OC cancelled.
Allen = kiffin 2.0
September 18th, 2012 at 6:20 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Im watching the opening drive right now, and Burris and McClain just looked lost as fvck.
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I’m willing to go easier on Burris because he’s a 4th round rookie pressed into emergency starting duties. Those mistakes are what Allen talks about when he mentions a learning curve and growing pains. I really think they’re onto something with that kid, though.
McClain though? No excuse. Supposed to a franchise MLB and it’s his 3rd season. He needs to realize his instincts are sh!t and stop gambling since he ALWAYS GUESSES WRONG. Stick to your assignment and you might be serviceable, dude.
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I’m not condemning Burris. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying the guy is garbage. Youre right, he’s a rookie and probably better than a healthy Curry even with his mistakes.
He’ll learn.
The fact that Im trying to make is that the staff made the proper adjustment. They saw a lost rookie, pulled him temporarily, the run D sured up, and then our DE blew his assignment. 7 instead of 3.
That is how you lose games.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:21 am
That OC was supposed to get the job in Miami, which is why he backed out of the interview.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:19 am
I love that Allen held EVERYONE responsible for whatever you want to call that on Sunday in Miami! A page from Bellichek! It was said that even if you do good, like Tom Brady, you’re not safe because he will pick out what you did wrong and let you have it! Maybe that is what we need!!!
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Its def what we need.
He’s giving them the Gruden treatment. He may sound soft in the media, but you can bet he’s laying into them in the film room.
All he needs is one guy on this team to step up and be his player enforcer the way Gannon was for Gruden.
Just one guy that will get physical and slap a b!tch when he aint living up to his paycheck. We get that and we will get some much needed results.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:24 am
That is, until they do the bootleg where ShoNasty does what all Raider DEs love to do which is not do their job and cover the boot. He bit the play action HARD. Easy TD by Tannenhill.
Should have been 3 points only. Breakdown by our player makes it 7. Getting straight up beat by a good play is one thing. Forgetting the fundamentals and allowing a breakdown-TD is unacceptable.
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That’s the kind of sch!t I really believe Allen and Tarver change…the players could freelance all they wanted since they knew Al would never let a coach bring the hammer down or impose true discipline.
This speaks to another point of people all over DA’s and Reggie’s case: Al Davis came on board in, what, late 1962/early 1963?
JFK was still alive and president of the U.S. A new house cost $12,650, a new car $3200 and a gallon of gas 29 cents. The Beatles had just released “I Want To Hold Your Hand” and African-Americans were still legally denied their rights in many states because the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts were still a year away.
I mention all this to stress how long ago that was. Now think of alllllllllll that’s happened since then.
That whole time up until October of 2011, Al Davis was in charge of the Raiders and set the tone. He created and maintained the culture.
And Reggie and Dennis Allen are supposed to be able to clean up the mess that culture left by the end of Al’s life in a few months?
How do people seriously argue this sch!t.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:24 am
The Next 14 games will either cement CP as a talented guy who could never generate results or someone who righted the ship in a storm . Its clear opponents are taking away DMAC, I for one think Knapp is a big part of the problem, but until everything reveals itself CP needs to not squander drives . I was so disappointed when he ran out of bounds a half yd short of the first down and we had to punt. We need leadership from CP and while no one wants him to get hurt, he could have made a better effort to get the first. At a minimum it sends a message to the other players
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:21 am
That OC was supposed to get the job in Miami, which is why he backed out of the interview.
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Right.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Klas likes Steelers -5 and Jets -3 against Miami.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:27 am
He’s giving them the Gruden treatment. He may sound soft in the media, but you can bet he’s laying into them in the film room.
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I believe Broncos and Saints players who were asked about Allen when he was hired said exactly that.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I was so disappointed when he ran out of bounds a half yd short of the first down and we had to punt.
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I thought he actually got the first down. Bad spot never challenged by Allen.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I was so disappointed when he ran out of bounds a half yd short of the first down and we had to punt.
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I thought he actually got the first down. Bad spot never challenged by Allen.
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I just watched it. It was a bad spot.
Other notes:
- Briesel is getting blown up in the ZBS, he may be the big problem.
- Our DBs are not being aggressive enough
September 18th, 2012 at 6:33 am
I like steelers -6.5 & SF -6.5 & Bal -2.5
September 18th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Gosh, Im watching them on their drive after our TD.
Our D line holds the line of scrimmage so much better than theirs does against us. Our LB play is so much more inconsistent though.
This is maddening.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Other notes:
- Briesel is getting blown up in the ZBS, he may be the big problem.
- Our DBs are not being aggressive enough
I thought Briesel was supposed to be big ZBS guy?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:35 am
- Briesel is getting blown up in the ZBS, he may be the big problem.
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I believe it, but I have no idea how this is even possible. Like…he was brought in to be a ZBS expert. He was a talented player in Houston! WTF happened.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Midway thru the 2nd quarter…..Right about now, Im convinced, Briesel just cant get the job done. We have a major issue with the RG position.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:38 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:35 am
- Briesel is getting blown up in the ZBS, he may be the big problem.
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I believe it, but I have no idea how this is even possible. Like…he was brought in to be a ZBS expert. He was a talented player in Houston! WTF happened.
I agree…how big was his contract again?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Briesel you ask? Another injured FA.
This is from after a game last year dec. 12th
Texans’ guard Mike Brisiel will miss a few weeks after having surgery on a fractured fibula.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Also, when was the last time we lost 2 of our starting corners in 2 games???
Can Chekwa take this opportunity and run?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:40 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:35 am
- Briesel is getting blown up in the ZBS, he may be the big problem.
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I believe it, but I have no idea how this is even possible. Like…he was brought in to be a ZBS expert. He was a talented player in Houston! WTF happened.
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Its not that he is missing his assignments…. its that he is just getting out muscled. He’s not physical enough. His guy is blowing him up every play and distorting the line and interfering with DMCs field of vision.
Briesel is a major concern from what Im seeing. Its a physicality thing.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Hwnrdr,
5 years/$20MM.
No guaranteed money, though, so they can cut bait on him any time they want.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Riff, I hope that Allen is seeing the same thing as you!!! Who do we have out there though?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Its not that he is missing his assignments…. its that he is just getting out muscled.
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I wonder if he’s still not all the way back from that fractured leg…maybe he can’t move/anchor like he used to
September 18th, 2012 at 6:41 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Hwnrdr,
5 years/$20MM.
No guaranteed money, though, so they can cut bait on him any time they want.
Cool, thanks PA!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Another issue, Goodson cannot pick up the blitz. I got by my count 2 times on big 3rd downs that he gets pushed right into Palmer.
If Palmer looks un-sharp and un-settled in the pocket, that is why. Our pass protection was spotty even early in the game.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Still going back to Hue?…better move on.
Hue Jackson’s Offense AVERAGED 24 ppg. in 2 years here, that places us just outside the top 10 in the League over the same period and it’s a far cry from the 12 ppg the offense scored the year before Hue arrived.
You also have to consider that…
4 different QB’s started at least 1 game or played meaningful snaps: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missed 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players started games at WR or saw significant snaps: DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, TJ Housh and JLH.
4 different TE’s started games or saw significant snaps: Zach Miller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
And those numbers came while transitioning from 2 different blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL, in 2011 we brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Yes there were ups and downs and some ugly stretches but overall that was a very good offense that overcame a lot of problems to kept us in position to make the playoffs.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Riff, I hope that Allen is seeing the same thing as you!!! Who do we have out there though?
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How can he not. Breaking down game tape isnt hard. This stuff is glaring obvious.
Designing plays to exploit other teams and putting together a gameplan is the difficult thing.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:47 am
We absolutely dominated teh 2nd quarter of play.
One blown opportunity after another though. Lots of blame to go around.
WRs are open, but Palmer has no protection. When he does, he doesnt look sharp.
And then you got Briesel getting pushed around in the run game.
We could have easily been up 24-3 at halftime.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Reggie and DA need time, I advocated for Hue getting a chance to improve on his rookie season after facing a series of bad breaks and will do the same for Reggie and DA.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:48 am
On the hold on Adams’ first big run back, they call it on Meyers. I see him nowhere even in the play or on the field. Maybe he was, but I see absolutely no hold whatsoever.
Horrible call by the refs.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Reggie and DA need time, I advocated for Hue getting a chance to improve on his rookie season after facing a series of bad breaks and will do the same for Reggie and DA.
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I was of the same opinion. Its a shame Hue overplayed his hand. The moment Al went down he shoulda been kissing Marks a55 up and down the way he used to do for Al.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Just watched Desmond Bryant literally kiss facemasks with Tannenhill yet let him slip out of his grasp. Unreal. That should have been sack #2
September 18th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Huff follows that by letting Reggie Bush stiff arm him in what should have been a 2 yard loss into a 2 yard gain.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:56 am
One thing I don’t get.
Satele was a ZBS fit and our 2011 OL produced the 7th ranked rushing attack with McFadden playing just 6 games and allowing just 25 sacks while adjusting to a QB switch.
Shouldn’t we have just re-signed Satele and brought the same unit back?.
Everyone of our OL is athletic enough to play in the ZBS, it’s not that they don’t fit the scheme.
Instead we signed Brisiel and spent our 3rd round Pick on another Guard over a DE or a CB.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Ausberrys big catch and run was a thing of beauty. That is how you win games.
He and Meyers arent too sharp at blocking, but they are good in the pass game. They both find a way to get open consistently. Palmer needs to look their way more.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:56 am
One thing I don’t get.
Satele was a ZBS fit and our 2011 OL produced the 7th ranked rushing attack with McFadden playing just 6 games and allowing just 25 sacks while adjusting to a QB switch.
Shouldn’t we have just re-signed Satele and brought the same unit back?.
Everyone of our OL is athletic enough to play in the ZBS, it’s not that they don’t fit the scheme.
Instead we signed Brisiel and spent our 3rd round Pick on another Guard over a DE or a CB.
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Its appearing letting Satele go was a mistake.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:59 am
I know Im starting to sound harsh on Palmer, but these Olineman have to wake up.
CP3 cant get comfortable. These guys need to start taking it personal every time Palmer ends up on his back.
Wiz 1.0 and Kennedy used to look ready to cry every time Gannon got touched. Then they got angry and wanted to kill the other team. Im seeing none of that fire out of our OLineman.
Pollack, DA, Knapp, Palmer….. Someone needs to tell these fat fvcks that if Palmer even gets a grass stain, they are supposed to take it personal.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:48 am
On the hold on Adams’ first big run back, they call it on Meyers. I see him nowhere even in the play or on the field. Maybe he was, but I see absolutely no hold whatsoever.
Horrible call by the refs.
Agreed!
Now the whole NFL is in an uproar! What happened in Philly on Sunday that got Ray Lewis heated?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Raider Riff.
Bob Marley Says:
Reggie and DA need time, I advocated for Hue getting a chance to improve on his rookie season after facing a series of bad breaks and will do the same for Reggie and DA.
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I was of the same opinion. Its a shame Hue overplayed his hand. The moment Al went down he shoulda been kissing Marks a55 up and down the way he used to do for Al.
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True.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:48 am
On the hold on Adams’ first big run back, they call it on Meyers. I see him nowhere even in the play or on the field. Maybe he was, but I see absolutely no hold whatsoever.
Horrible call by the refs.
Agreed!
Now the whole NFL is in an uproar! What happened in Philly on Sunday that got Ray Lewis heated?
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Look, the replacement refs aint good, but the old guys once messed up a coin toss on Thanksgiving.
And lets not forget about the Tuck game.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:05 am
As a life long Raider Fan, I will NEVER forget the tuck rule! And I remember the coin toss jack up!
I know they screwed up the line of scrimmage last night but what happened in Philly? Anyone know?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:05 am
* Disclaimer:
“Instead we signed Brisiel and spent our 3rd round Pick on another Guard over a DE or a CB.”
To be fair, every qualified talent evaluator will tell you drafting for need is a sure way to F things up, it is a factor but should never be the guidline, Reggie said he would abide by the Best Player Available theory and he’s right, I guess Bergstrom was that guy for him.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Im done with the first half. I dont need to watch it again. I just watched every play 3 times.
We absolutely blew the game in this quarter.
Not with glaring mistakes like in the 2nd half, but with just poor quality of play. Our O-Line is really really bad. Just not physical enough. Even if we ran the power scheme, I dont see how things would be better.
In fact we even mixed in 2 power runs that half by my count. Our guys just have no push.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:05 am
* Disclaimer:
“Instead we signed Brisiel and spent our 3rd round Pick on another Guard over a DE or a CB.”
To be fair, every qualified talent evaluator will tell you drafting for need is a sure way to F things up, it is a factor but should never be the guidline, Reggie said he would abide by the Best Player Available theory and he’s right, I guess Bergstrom was that guy for him.
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- Draft for depth
- Sign FA’s to plug glaring holes
- Trade for picks
That is how you build a team.
And yeah, you always take the best player available. There is nothing wrong with being too deep in a position. That just allows you to trade for more picks and better salary cap positioning.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:05 am
As a life long Raider Fan, I will NEVER forget the tuck rule! And I remember the coin toss jack up!
I know they screwed up the line of scrimmage last night but what happened in Philly? Anyone know?
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I dunno. I stopped watching the other games for the first time in my life.
This year has me so depressed I have no interest in the other games. Im at a all-time low in my football life.
My gf wants a Raider win more than anything. Its killing our sex life.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:10 am
2nd half, opening play, Moore doesnt catch a ball we all expect him to catch.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Shouldn’t we have just re-signed Satele and brought the same unit back?.
Everyone of our OL is athletic enough to play in the ZBS, it’s not that they don’t fit the scheme.
Instead we signed Brisiel and spent our 3rd round Pick on another Guard over a DE or a CB.
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I was never the Satele hater that some were. Never understood it. In retrospect, keeping Wiz at LG, Satele at C and letting Carlisle, Bergstrom and Nix fight over RG was probably the way to go.
However, at the time moving Wiz to C and bringing in Brisiel who was supposed to be a ZBS expert seemed like a good move and I don’t remember many criticism at the time.
If Brisiel weren’t tanking, no one would be saying peep. I have no idea why he is.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:10 am
2nd play, our OLine gets shoved 3 yards back off the line of scrimmage on the stretch. Nowhere to go for DMC. Pathetic.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Obviously Reggie F’ed up his first ever pick. If a 26 year old rookie can’t crack this starting lineup, he’s never gonna be anything more than a back-up.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 am
144.Carl Weathers Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Obviously Reggie F’ed up his first ever pick. If a 26 year old rookie can’t crack this starting lineup, he’s never gonna be anything more than a back-up.
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I bet you see Bergstrom sooner rather than later.
And even if he’s 26, he can still have a good 5-8 year career. Let’s not get too reactionary.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 am
My gf wants a Raider win more than anything. Its killing our sex life.
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Put a raider jersey on her and fvck her like the team is fvcking its fans.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 am
3rd down and 10. Opening drive.
Meyers is the hot route. The CB is in a blitzing stance. Instead of staying in to block the blitzing CB, he does his 2 yard out that has no chance of a first down.
I dont know who to blame here. CP3 for not calling it, maybe Meyers was supposed to know better. But somebody F’d up here because all the other WRs have single coverage and somebody could have gotten open.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
I’ve been saying for months we needed a true RDE, Shaughnessy is better suited as a LDE where he can keep playing the run well and become more of a Pass-Rushing threat going against slower, less athletic RT’s.
Moving Shaugnessy to LDE would have allowed us to get Houston inside and play a 4 man DT tackle rotation where Seymour and Kelly handle one spot and Houston and Bryant the other.
Maybe next year we can draft or sign a RDE and move Shaughnessy and Houston to their best positions.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
I hear ya Riff! My son kept coming in the room and asking me if we were winning. He kept leaving disappointed!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
The O-line seems to be the great undoing here and so you have to wonder if Frank Pollack is the guy to teach it.
Whatever his flaws, and there are many, Knapp simply can’t go until the offseason.
Hoffman and Pollack, however, can be sch!tcanned.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 am
My gf wants a Raider win more than anything. Its killing our sex life.
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Put a raider jersey on her and fvck her like the team is fvcking its fans.
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The sight of a Raider jersey right now is like anti-Viagra
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 am
146.Carl Weathers Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 am
My gf wants a Raider win more than anything. Its killing our sex life.
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Put a raider jersey on her and fvck her like the team is fvcking its fans.
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LMFAO
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 am
My gf wants a Raider win more than anything. Its killing our sex life.
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Put a raider jersey on her and fvck her like the team is fvcking its fans.
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The sight of a Raider jersey right now is like anti-Viagra
OUCH!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:16 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
The O-line seems to be the great undoing here and so you have to wonder if Frank Pollack is the guy to teach it.
Whatever his flaws, and there are many, Knapp simply can’t go until the offseason.
Hoffman and Pollack, however, can be sch!tcanned.
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I wouldnt blame Pollack yet. The guys seem to know their assignments. They are just getting beat physically. This is a matter of will and heart. Not coaching.
Hoffman had a good game against Miami. He may be on DA’s chitlist, but I see no reason to be blaming the guy right now. We got bigger issues on the O-Line with personell.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 am
You guys, so far, after 2.5 quarters of play, I see no reason to blame TK or Seymour for our inability on D. THEY ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
They are often occupying 3-4 lineman.
We completely shut down their offense for over 2 quarters and our O did nothing to help out by stretching out a lead.
So, its safe to say, lets lay off the two big guys right now. Our anger needs to go to the O-Line. They kept Miami in the game.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 am
If this team is 0-5 or 1-4 after the Atlanta game, it MUST be Pryor time.
An 0-5 or 1-4 team means we’ll be in a high draft pick position with the possiblity of landing any number of promising QBs: Matt Barkley (who I’m not wild about but still belongs up here), Geno Smith, Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray.
But before they go QB, they need to see what they have in Pryor. If he’s something, then they can use that 1st rounder on a different position.
Jacksonville is a home game and the team has a weak defense and would be a good time to see what he can do.
2-3 or by some miracle 3-2, stick with Palmer. The schedule eases up so maybe the team can gel and go on a run.
Otherwise? Give me TP6 so we can focus on what position to draft.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Wheeler is very good and learning from mistakes and making instant adjustments.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:21 am
157.Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Wheeler is very good and learning from mistakes and making instant adjustments.
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Wheeler so far seems to me to be part of the solution . Would love to see him get a 3-5 year extension.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:28 am
Michael Huff to play some CB?
uh oh. hope this doesn’t cause Raider O & Dell to start swinging purses again!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I said it long time ago, Huff can play CB, but Dell hates losing arguments.
I hope all is well with yiu and your family, I miss arguing with you. God bless.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:22 am
You*
September 18th, 2012 at 7:22 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 am
If this team is 0-5 or 1-4 after the Atlanta game, it MUST be Pryor time.
An 0-5 or 1-4 team means we’ll be in a high draft pick position with the possiblity of landing any number of promising QBs: Matt Barkley (who I’m not wild about but still belongs up here), Geno Smith, Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray.
But before they go QB, they need to see what they have in Pryor. If he’s something, then they can use that 1st rounder on a different position.
Jacksonville is a home game and the team has a weak defense and would be a good time to see what he can do.
2-3 or by some miracle 3-2, stick with Palmer. The schedule eases up so maybe the team can gel and go on a run.
Otherwise? Give me TP6 so we can focus on what position to draft.
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QB isnt our problem. So stop wishing for that savior to come in the draft.
We got a B+ caliber QB and a guy worth developing.
If we can somehow manage to squeak to 2-3 or 3-2, then we are right on schedule for 10-6 and should definitely stay the course.
Its possible. The lightbulb just has to come on with these guys. It could happen at any time. We’ll all be waiting.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Everyone on this blog is so smart. Last season, everyone calling for Satele to be replaced. Now those same guys want him back.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:28 am
Michael Huff to play some CB?
uh oh. hope this doesn’t cause Raider O & Dell to start swinging purses again!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I said it long time ago, Huff can play CB, but Dell hates losing arguments.
I hope all is well with yiu and your family, I miss arguing with you. God bless.
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Huff absolutely needs to be put in at CB right now. If he isnt, I will start looking at the staff and throwing stones.
Gio is more than good as his replacement. Our current DBs are just not aggressive enough. Being cocky and aggressive is part of the fabric of a CB. If you arent that, then what the hell are you?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:25 am
What’s up O?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Everyone on this blog is so smart. Last season, everyone calling for Satele to be replaced. Now those same guys want him back.
I wasn’t one of them…Satele was good enough! Wish they never F’d with the line, but oh well!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Don’t forget to post your credentials, Riff aka Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me is here.
We are so lucky to have a guy who played college football share his knowlege here. Those college football players are very smart and knowledgable.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 am
QB isnt our problem. So stop wishing for that savior to come in the draft.
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Palmer’s cap # rises to almost $17 million next season. Minus a miracle playoff run, he’s almost certainly on his way out.
Not hoping for a savior, but facts is facts: Carson Palmer is not likely to be the quarterback of the Oakland Raiders next season. Since there’s no free agents worth having now that Schaub is locked up in Houston, it means the Raiders can either A) draft one or B) go with Pryor. That entails finding out what Pryor has to offer.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:27 am
2nd penalty called on our special teams punt return unit. Both phantom calls. This was not the 2nd big runback. But it did give us horrible field position…YET AGAIN.
So far, the refs are at fault for our punt returning as far as Im concerned.
Reeces block in the back was after the play was virtually dead.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I guess we know by now why Pat Lee could only get on the field for 20 snaps (as a DB) for the Packers worst-ever Pass Defense in 2011, he was signed for ST play and as an emergency CB, now he’s gonna start, damnit.
Coye Francis looks like garbage returning kicks and can’t get on the field as a DB.
By the way, DVD is on Pittsburgh’s active roster and playing on Special Teams, kid made one of the toughest teams in the League, one known for drafting “football players” instead of athletes, looks like their Staff decided the guys was worth developing, too bad we didn’t.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:27 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 am
QB isnt our problem. So stop wishing for that savior to come in the draft.
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Palmer’s cap # rises to almost $17 million next season. Minus a miracle playoff run, he’s almost certainly on his way out.
Not hoping for a savior, but facts is facts: Carson Palmer is not likely to be the quarterback of the Oakland Raiders next season. Since there’s no free agents worth having now that Schaub is locked up in Houston, it means the Raiders can either A) draft one or B) go with Pryor. That entails finding out what Pryor has to offer.
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You dont think he can be re-signed to a friendlier number? He wont want to be cut and he isnt worth much in a trade is he?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Don’t forget to post your credentials, Riff aka Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me is here.
We are so lucky to have a guy who played college football share his knowlege here. Those college football players are very smart and knowledgable.
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I work in pro sports. What field do you work in?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Btw, I’m joking. I’m having too much fun with the “I played college football so you shouldn’t argue with me”.
Riff is a good poster. Biggest ego here by far, but he is s good poster.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:30 am
You dont think he can be re-signed to a friendlier number? He wont want to be cut and he isnt worth much in a trade is he?
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It’s possible, but at some point I have to think Palmer’s going to want to stop pushing money into future years that he’s unlikely to see and make some $$$ right now.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Morning victims!!!
What have I missed?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am
I really dont feel like watching anymore of the 2nd half. We have a breakdown on dang near every play. Its really bad.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:30 am
You dont think he can be re-signed to a friendlier number? He wont want to be cut and he isnt worth much in a trade is he?
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It’s possible, but at some point I have to think Palmer’s going to want to stop pushing money into future years that he’s unlikely to see and make some $$$ right now.
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He’s got plenty of money. He wants a ring.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Hwnrdr,
I’m getting over the loss, and I think I’m starting to feel better. Losing to Miami and a rookie QB like that was hard on me.
What’s yp with you?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:32 am
You know what? Going back a bit about the darn O Line…
If I was Palmer, I will gel with the guys now! Treat them to dinner, etc…tell them that they have to protect, or NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:32 am
By the way, DVD is on Pittsburgh’s active roster and playing on Special Teams, kid made one of the toughest teams in the League, one known for drafting “football players” instead of athletes, looks like their Staff decided the guys was worth developing, too bad we didn’t.
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The Steelers have one good CB in Ike Taylor and a bunch of lottery tickets. They decided to buy another in DVD.
Why they can’t ever seem to get two competent corners is a good question, actually.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Hwnrdr,
I’m getting over the loss, and I think I’m starting to feel better. Losing to Miami and a rookie QB like that was hard on me.
What’s yp with you?
I hear ya! Going to the Pitt game then heading home for about 2 weeks! Not sure which one I want more…lol…ok, kidding, of course I want to go home!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
You are an agent (as I remember) in Europe. Get over yourself.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
That first TD run by Reggie is just so pathetic. So so so so pathetic.
Its not even late in the game. You cannot blame the heat or fatigue. Just no will power by our guys.
Absolutely pathetic.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
By the way, DVD is on Pittsburgh’s active roster and playing on Special Teams, kid made one of the toughest teams in the League, one known for drafting “football players” instead of athletes, looks like their Staff decided the guys was worth developing, too bad we didn’t.
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The Steelers have one good CB in Ike Taylor and a bunch of lottery tickets. They decided to buy another in DVD.
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And we have……
September 18th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
You are an agent (as I remember) in Europe. Get over yourself.
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Im not high on myself. Im low on the semis here.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Btw, I buy/ sell/ and develop RE in Jordan.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Did anyone from this blog go the miami game? Your picture on Raiders.com?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:36 am
The Steelers have one good CB in Ike Taylor and a bunch of lottery tickets. They decided to buy another in DVD.
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And we have……
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Touche’
September 18th, 2012 at 7:37 am
neilb Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Did anyone from this blog go the miami game? Your picture on Raiders.com?
Not even the Gorilla went….but he had a darn good excuse! He got married over the weekend!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:37 am
The ZBS doesn’t work for DMAC.
Hue got that.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:37 am
“go to”
September 18th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Now we are driving after the Bush TD.
Palmer has us moving.
But Briesel gets pushed 3 yards back into DMC on a run.
HE IS DEFINITELY THE WEAK LINK.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Later fellas, have a good one.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Hwnrdr,
lol
I hope we win so you can have a better trip. I thought you were going in Dec, so does that mean you are available to come here (SD) for the Dischargers’ game?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Btw, I buy/ sell/ and develop RE in Jordan.
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So imagine me trying to question your abilities at that. I’d sound like a total fool.
Now you know how most the semi’s here look when questioning this teams scheme and execution.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
Yeah I heard ’bout that!
GOOD LUCK MARK ACASIO!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:41 am
DMC gets the yards back on a well timed screen pass.
Then on 3rd down Moore runs a sloppy quick-slant and what should be a easy conversion gets blown up.
3rd quarter is almost over and yet we still cannot get out of our own way. Each and every drive, just stupid mistakes.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:41 am
A fire Greg Knap Facebook page? Lol!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I was only asking ’cause the brunette in the shorts is a babe.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
You are an agent (as I remember) in Europe. Get over yourself.
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Im not high on myself. Im low on the semis here.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I can’t wait to hear your excuses after DA fires Knapp?
Or do you think you know more than DA? I will not be surprised. Your ego is huge Agent Riff.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Our CB Hanson needs to go. Worst player on the team.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:44 am
All the talk, all of the speculation, all of the hope and change, all of the discussions, all of the player breakdowns, all of the draft talk, all of the OTA talk, all of the camp talk, all of the preseason excuses…..all of it for nothing….
Net result=season over by week 2.
SMH, the life of a fan.
There is always next year to look forward too and the Lakers of course.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Just got done watching the 65 yd run by Bush. I have no idea what Branch is doing. None whatsoever. Its the worst angle Ive ever seen a guy ever take. He literally runs right up into the back of RoMac. For no reason whatsoever.
Game. Over.
I dont need to watch any more.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
You are an agent (as I remember) in Europe. Get over yourself.
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Im not high on myself. Im low on the semis here.
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I can’t wait to hear your excuses after DA fires Knapp?
Or do you think you know more than DA? I will not be surprised. Your ego is huge Agent Riff.
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Why wont you address the fact that you are not qualified to judge Knapp just like Im not qualified to judge RE in Jordan.
What Im saying bugs you because it is true.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:47 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Maybe they should put Krapp upon the coaches box, without a headset…
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haha good one
September 18th, 2012 at 7:48 am
So imagine me trying to question your abilities at that. I’d sound like a total fool.
Now you know how most the semi’s here look when questioning this teams scheme and execution.
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People have opinions and I’m not as egotistical as you. I don’t ask for people’s credentials when they share their opinions.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with my opinions. I’m new to the business, I do things differently, people said I was an idiot and now they want free tips to improve their business.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Hwnrdr,
lol
I hope we win so you can have a better trip. I thought you were going in Dec, so does that mean you are available to come here (SD) for the Dischargers’ game?
Technically yes! haven’t been there in 23 years!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:49 am
198.neilb Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I was only asking ’cause the brunette in the shorts is a babe.
+++++++++
I need to go investigate this immediately
September 18th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Just got done watching the 65 yd run by Bush. I have no idea what Branch is doing. None whatsoever. Its the worst angle Ive ever seen a guy ever take. He literally runs right up into the back of RoMac. For no reason whatsoever.
Game. Over.
I dont need to watch any more.
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Game over is right. That play absolutely disgusted me while watching live and that’s when we knew it was all over.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I can’t wait to hear your excuses after DA fires Knapp?
Or do you think you know more than DA? I will not be surprised. Your ego is huge Agent Riff.
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Why wont you address the fact that you are not qualified to judge Knapp just like Im not qualified to judge RE in Jordan.
What Im saying bugs you because it is true.
$$$$$$$$$!
Do you read what you posts?
Not qualified to judge?!
I’m a fan. It’s what we do!!
LOL
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Branch
Kelly
McClain
Huff
Overrated garbage….
o-line a shambles, but the fans decide to blame the QB and the RB.
People still defending Knapp’s offense and his ZBS.
Sad times for Raider fans.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Word is Wes Welker is in BB’s dog house. He holding grudges like good old Al Davis.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Post*
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
White Devil,
Are you qualified to judge NFL players?
Post your credentials.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
#210. Indeed, Dakota. Agree.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Can I ask you all an honest question?
I am not a conspiracy therorist by any means but I have to wonder if this season being tanked is part of management’s “master plan”.
I am so frustrated, It’s geting really tough to stay positive. When the Raiders suck it effects my whole day of football. It is much more fun to cheer against the rest of the AFC west hen the Raiders are relevant.
Yes, I need to be talked off the ledge. I really believed that even though I knew the Raiders were going to take there lumps this tear there would still be several positive things to draw on for the future.
Just not seeing it, Here’s to another long season.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Cowherd claims BB is sabotaging Welker because he doesn’t want to overpay him with big contract.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Riff,
If RaiderO is not qualified to judge Knapp then you are not qualified to defend him. Works both ways right?
Fans are always qualified to pass judgment on their teams….if not, then the heart of professional sports would be yanked out and we would all passively watch it like we were watching reruns of Cheers.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:48 am
So imagine me trying to question your abilities at that. I’d sound like a total fool.
Now you know how most the semi’s here look when questioning this teams scheme and execution.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
People have opinions and I’m not as egotistical as you. I don’t ask for people’s credentials when they share their opinions.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with my opinions. I’m new to the business, I do things differently, people said I was an idiot and now they want free tips to improve their business.
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Call me egotistical, that doest bother me one bit.
But dont call me wrong. This stuff isnt a matter of opinion. The gametape dont lie.
People have “beliefs” about Knapp and they will not budge on them regardless of what happens. That is why I blast the semi’s here. They are stubborn, ignorant, and most importantly, wrong.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Klas thinks McKenzi and Allen have low expectations for this season. They know they can’t win with current team.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:55 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Raiders-Fans-in-Miami/04b27b40-2fe9-4974-a934-08ebfe724db7#a25f6879-60e3-44eb-a17c-e3d5759f6ad3
PA…..babe in shorts
September 18th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
White Devil,
Are you qualified to judge NFL players?
Post your credentials.
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You dont see me evaluating player talent.
Im simply looking at their results after the fact. Hindsight is 20/20. No credentials needed to see a player run a lazy route or a Lineman get blown up on the line of scrimmage.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Riff,
If RaiderO is not qualified to judge Knapp then you are not qualified to defend him. Works both ways right?
Fans are always qualified to pass judgment on their teams….if not, then the heart of professional sports would be yanked out and we would all passively watch it like we were watching reruns of Cheers.
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Bam!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I can’t wait to hear your excuses after DA fires Knapp?
Or do you think you know more than DA? I will not be surprised. Your ego is huge Agent Riff.
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Why wont you address the fact that you are not qualified to judge Knapp just like Im not qualified to judge RE in Jordan.
What Im saying bugs you because it is true.
$$$$$$$$$!
Do you read what you posts?
Not qualified to judge?!
I’m a fan. It’s what we do!!
LOL
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As long as your willing to admit it, I cant really give you any chit.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
NORM!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Mistic’s head is going to explode. Up next on Cowherd, he claims that Alex Smith is better than Michael Vick.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
If you think a person needs to be qualified to realize knapp is a bad OC, then maybe you are as smart as I thought you were.
He had the same issues since ATL
He had 2 good years out of his 9 year career
His offense was ranked in the 20’s the last 4 years of his career with 4 different teams.
Even a dumb jock can understand this. Imagine the smartest jock on the planet (Riff)?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Cowherd claims BB is sabotaging Welker because he doesn’t want to overpay him with big contract.
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Welker should do all he can to get out then.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:58 am
220.neilb Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:55 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Raiders-Fans-in-Miami/04b27b40-2fe9-4974-a934-08ebfe724db7#a25f6879-60e3-44eb-a17c-e3d5759f6ad3
PA…..babe in shorts
++++++++++++++++++++++++
homina homina homina
September 18th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Riff,
If RaiderO is not qualified to judge Knapp then you are not qualified to defend him. Works both ways right?
Fans are always qualified to pass judgment on their teams….if not, then the heart of professional sports would be yanked out and we would all passively watch it like we were watching reruns of Cheers.
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Fans have a right to be frustrated.
They have a right to pass judgement on what they are qualified to evaluate.
They shouldnt be boo’ing and asking for a guy to get fired that is actually doing a good job. That is what I have an issue with.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Mistic’s head is going to explode. Up next on Cowherd, he claims that Alex Smith is better than Michael Vick.
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Alex Smith is better than Vick.
Vick simply cannot consistently grasp some basic QB stuff. He’s a coach killer.
They need to stop trying to make him a pocket QB and just design something around him.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I am just sick about this start. Another dismal season
September 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am
I think we will really see how bad Raiders are this week after Jets kill Miami and Raiders give up 400 yards to Big Ben.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
If you think a person needs to be qualified to realize knapp is a bad OC, then maybe you are as smart as I thought you were.
He had the same issues since ATL
He had 2 good years out of his 9 year career
His offense was ranked in the 20’s the last 4 years of his career with 4 different teams.
Even a dumb jock can understand this. Imagine the smartest jock on the planet (Riff)?
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Were going in circles now.
Knapp has done a good job here. The gametape shows that. He’s put us in position to score, our guys have F’d it up every chance they get.
You wont see that because you dont watch the tape. You wont watch the tape because you have a “belief” and you wont change your mind off of it.
I didnt like Knapp either until I took an objective look at his performance. I had to change my “opinion” of the guy.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Cowherd claims BB is sabotaging Welker because he doesn’t want to overpay him with big contract.
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Welker should do all he can to get out then.
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Lets hope he doesnt end up in Denver. Manning would do magic with that guy in the slot.
Welker should realize, that outside of those two QBs, he wouldnt be what he is.
Stubborn stupidity on both sides.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Knapp is the best – at running the ball straight at the strength of the opponent.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Cue the Cheers theme song:
Making your way as a Raiders’ fan today takes everything you’ve got.
Taking a break from all your NFL worries, sure would help a lot.
Wouldn’t you like to get away?
Sometimes you want to go
Where everybody knows blog handle,
and they’re always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see,
our Raider troubles are all the same
You wanna be where everybody knows
Your blog handle.
You wanna go where Raider fans know,
We are all up the same schyt creek,
You wanna go where everybody knows
your blog handle.
Jerry Mac’s Blog (fk Cork!)
September 18th, 2012 at 8:05 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/andre-carter-going-to-see-the-raiders-again/
We’re kicking the tires on Andre Carter again.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 am
There are not many players out there right now that will help us in any significant way. Carter might. Winslow might have, but the Pats signed him.
Is Toast Johnson still out there? lol
September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Just watched that TD run by Bush where 4 Raiders missed tackles and now I want to drink.
3rd and 1. Dolphins don’t go with trickery, the call is Bush right up the gut.
Raiders have it defended perfectly. The D-line gets a push and McClain and Burris come in to create further traffic. Bush is screwed.
To his credit, Bush sees this and bounces it outside. Joselio Hanson is stationed right there, presumably to prevent just this kind of thing from happening. He has a PERFECT angle…and just whiffs. I mean, completely whiffs. I have no idea how he accomplished that. He makes that tackle, Bush is stuffed for no gain.
Desmond Bryant diagnoses what’s happening, disengages from his blocker and comes over…and just overruns the play. Can’t blame him too much for that, the fact that he even put himself in position to make an attempt is a credit to him.
Then Huff and Shawntae Spencer make two of the WORST TACKLING ATTEMPTS I HAVE EVER SEEN. I’m not exaggerating. It looks like they were trying to two hand touch him or grab a flag off his hip while falling down. Inexcusable, particularly from Huff.
Should be 10-10 (or even still 10-7 if it’s a miss/block) and Raiders ball. Instead it’s 14-10 and the rout is commencing.
There’s the turning point of the game, right there and it’s a complete failure of execution. Tarver called the right defense. The players just sucked.
The sooner Reggie completely blows up this roster, the better.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 am
There are not many players out there right now that will help us in any significant way. Carter might. Winslow might have, but the Pats signed him.
Is Toast Johnson still out there? lol
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Winslow’s no great loss. Our TEs caught seven passes last Sunday.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 am
There are not many players out there right now that will help us in any significant way. Carter might. Winslow might have, but the Pats signed him.
Is Toast Johnson still out there? lol
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Can Winslow run block? If not, he aint much help. Our current guys are getting open. But they are getting pushed around in the run game.
Chris Johnson would be an improvement over what we got and CB. So would Lito Sheppard.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:09 am
#236 – LMAO, Dakota!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Standing ovation for Dakota @ #236. just brilliant.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Just watched that TD run by Bush where 4 Raiders missed tackles and now I want to drink.
3rd and 1. Dolphins don’t go with trickery, the call is Bush right up the gut.
Raiders have it defended perfectly. The D-line gets a push and McClain and Burris come in to create further traffic. Bush is screwed.
To his credit, Bush sees this and bounces it outside. Joselio Hanson is stationed right there, presumably to prevent just this kind of thing from happening. He has a PERFECT angle…and just whiffs. I mean, completely whiffs. I have no idea how he accomplished that. He makes that tackle, Bush is stuffed for no gain.
Desmond Bryant diagnoses what’s happening, disengages from his blocker and comes over…and just overruns the play. Can’t blame him too much for that, the fact that he even put himself in position to make an attempt is a credit to him.
Then Huff and Shawntae Spencer make two of the WORST TACKLING ATTEMPTS I HAVE EVER SEEN. I’m not exaggerating. It looks like they were trying to two hand touch him or grab a flag off his hip while falling down. Inexcusable, particularly from Huff.
Should be 10-10 (or even still 10-7 if it’s a miss/block) and Raiders ball. Instead it’s 14-10 and the rout is commencing.
There’s the turning point of the game, right there and it’s a complete failure of execution. Tarver called the right defense. The players just sucked.
The sooner Reggie completely blows up this roster, the better.
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If you read all my comments today, I break down the entire first 3 quarters.
I dont tell a lie, the gametape proves that.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am
If we sign Carter, maybe the strategy for this coming Sunday will be to send the house at Big Ben every passing play.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Riff,
Oh I know, I just wanted to see one play for myself and take an in depth peek.
Don’t need to see any more after that one.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 am
232.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am
I think we will really see how bad Raiders are this week after Jets kill Miami and Raiders give up 400 yards to Big Ben.
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No way Ben throws for 400.
He’ll be taken out of the game after the 3rd quarter after only having 350. Heh.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Then Huff and Shawntae Spencer make two of the WORST TACKLING ATTEMPTS I HAVE EVER SEEN. I’m not exaggerating. It looks like they were trying to two hand touch him or grab a flag off his hip while falling down. Inexcusable, particularly from Huff.
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Huff playing like a Nancy. He should have kept his trap shut in the offseason.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Andre Carter? Heck…why not?
Also, you guys think we could use a guy like Plaxico in the redzone?
I know. It makes too much sense. Who cares about the “lockerroom presence” anyway?
DA is in danger of losing his team anyway by the looks of the guys on the sideline what the heck would Plaxico hurt?
He can drop passes in the redzone just as easily as everyone else.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:13 am
237.RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:05 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/andre-carter-going-to-see-the-raiders-again/
We’re kicking the tires on Andre Carter again.
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They might’ve liked what they saw from him and said “Come back in a few weeks when you’re healthier.”
Anything to get a consistent pass rush, says I. Bring him in.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Were going in circles now.
Knapp has done a good job here. The gametape shows that.
$$$$$$$$$$$
We are ranked 31st in scoring!
We are averaging 13.5 points/ game.
We averaged 22+ points last season with sane players and an injured DMAC.
Keep blaming the players. You are too smart for us Blog Monkeys.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Same*
September 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am
SilverNBlackPA, couldn’t agree with you more. It’s every year with us, our run defense plays terrific for 2 and a half quarters and then wiffs on 5 tackles (HANSON REALLY IS TO BLAME FOR THAT RUN) I too watched the game again and he did have a PERFECT ANGLE!! BUSH HAD NO CHANCE!!!…DALLEN did the right thing by watching film together with the whole team..He’s showing them how close the game really was if we didnt shoot ourselves in the foot….JUST FRIGGIN TACKLE!!!!!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Andre Carter? Heck…why not?
Also, you guys think we could use a guy like Plaxico in the redzone?
I know. It makes too much sense. Who cares about the “lockerroom presence” anyway?
DA is in danger of losing his team anyway by the looks of the guys on the sideline what the heck would Plaxico hurt?
He can drop passes in the redzone just as easily as everyone else.
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With Denarius back, receiver isn’t a big need.
Pass-rushers, on the other hand, we can ALWAYS use.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:16 am
our talent is good enough to have us in the playoffs. We need coaching and on the field leaders.
-CP and mcfadden aren’t making the big plays we need
-no one is making enough impact on d. we need a whole lot of bryant houston and shaughnessey
September 18th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I say sign Howie Long, Greg Townsend, Sam Adams, Romo, Rod Woodson, Eric Allen, Wiz, Rice, Brown, Garner, Kennedy, and the one eyed posse….Joe Aska and Don Mosebar.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Were going in circles now.
Knapp has done a good job here. The gametape shows that.
$$$$$$$$$$$
We are ranked 31st in scoring!
We are averaging 13.5 points/ game.
We averaged 22+ points last season with sane players and an injured DMAC.
Keep blaming the players. You are too smart for us Blog Monkeys.
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Avoid the tape. Stick with your beliefs.
People used to argue the world was flat even after it was discovered it wasnt. Some still think the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Suite yourself.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Inonewordraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:16 am
our talent is good enough to have us in the playoffs. We need coaching and on the field leaders.
-CP and mcfadden aren’t making the big plays we need
-no one is making enough impact on d. we need a whole lot of bryant houston and shaughnessey
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Bryant and Shonasty were as about as bad as you could be against Miami. Watch the tape.
Yes, we are in need of leadership on the players part. Someone needs to help the coach out.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I say sign Howie Long, Greg Townsend, Sam Adams, Romo, Rod Woodson, Eric Allen, Wiz, Rice, Brown, Garner, Kennedy, and the one eyed posse….Joe Aska and Don Mosebar.
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Those guys knew how to deliver on gameday.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Duck, With all due respect you really don’t see a need for a receiver who can catch TD’s (which Plax has shown he can do) in the redzone situations?
Isn’t that everyones big complaint that Palmer is racking up all these yards between the 20’s and the faltering in the red zone?
Where was DMoore…or ANYBODY last Sunday?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I really like DA forcing the entire team to watch that embarrassment. I hope he stopped and re-ran the tape for every busted play and cruddy tackle. Own up to your suckitude, team.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:20 am
We should trade DMC and CP3 if the season slips away early (even though i think we can beat pittsburgh)..We can get a scrub to run the ZBS and do fairly well..then use TP for our QB..
September 18th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Might as well sign Justin Fargas, R.Curry,T.Dwight,A Lelie,Stuart Shuiguart, Culpepper, L.Jordan.
It’s apperent Big Reg is all in on #1 pick.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Duck, With all due respect you really don’t see a need for a receiver who can catch TD’s (which Plax has shown he can do) in the redzone situations?
Isn’t that everyones big complaint that Palmer is racking up all these yards between the 20’s and the faltering in the red zone?
Where was DMoore…or ANYBODY last Sunday?
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We dont have a redzone threat at WR. You are right.
Palmer made a beautiful throw to DHB who had just one CB on him. Its a receivers dream. At the very least you inherit a pass interference call. DHB couldnt even muster getting a hand on the ball.
Pathetic.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Yeah, we need a pass rush but my goodness, what about some corners?
Shouldn’t Reggie be looking at that?
That position is a GLARING need too.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I think Eric Allen and Rod Woodson could out perform these knuckle heads.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Can Deion Sanders or Eric Allen still play?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am
JINXS!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I think Eric Allen and Rod Woodson could out perform these knuckle heads.
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All it would take is a CB to shadow the WR’s on our known blitz plays and we’d be getting some easy coverage sacks.
Hanson is absolutely horrible. He looked like he was on Miami’s payroll. I cant imagine Chekwa and DVD were worse than this clown. Checkwa and DVD must have been some real knuckleheads to fall out of favor with the coaching staff that much to where they would rather have Pat Lee and Hanson.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
The Reggie’s two biggest mistakes so far:
-Not drafting a DB, especially early (could we be getting any LESS production from our 1st draft pick this year)
-Trading Murphy
I am sure we wanted to do better through 2 games, but this is a long-term organizational shift, that we won’t be able to judge The Reggie accurately, until at least 2-3 years.
Just the same as the Seymour trade (which is not looking so hot these days).
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
From what I see from the tape, they are just on single coverage on DHB and taking their chances and daring him to make plays…and he isn’t, so it frees up other guys to stack the box and better use elsewhere to stop us.
If DHB could just merit more than one guy worrying about him it would help.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Lol@ Riff – If you ran the 49ers, bro, Singletary would still be on the sidelines swinging his big cross, and Vernon Davis would be on the Cardinals.
everybody needs to take responsibility for this mess – starting at the top.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Sign carter… last week
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Move Wiz back to guard where he does very well, as opposed to being an oft-penalized average C, and get Briesel the heck outta there.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Huff,
Are you enjoying playing in a “Real Defense”?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Can Deion Sanders or Eric Allen still play?
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I’ll never forgive the Chiefs for claiming Deion off of waivers just so we couldnt get him during our 2002 SuperBowl run. Having him replace Phil Bucannan would have been huge for us.
Plus, Deion was one of my top 3 fav players as a kid. I always wanted him in a Raider jersey.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
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September 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Can Deion Sanders or Eric Allen still play?
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I’ll never forgive the Chiefs for claiming Deion off of waivers just so we couldnt get him during our 2002 SuperBowl run. Having him replace Phil Bucannan would have been huge for us.
Plus, Deion was one of my top 3 fav players as a kid. I always wanted him in a Raider jersey.
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I totally forgot about that.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
So I guess the “DHB draws the safety over the top; the great decoy” propaganda that was so beyond ridiculous, can official die?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
The Reggie’s two biggest mistakes so far:
-Not drafting a DB, especially early (could we be getting any LESS production from our 1st draft pick this year)
-Trading Murphy
I am sure we wanted to do better through 2 games, but this is a long-term organizational shift, that we won’t be able to judge The Reggie accurately, until at least 2-3 years.
Just the same as the Seymour trade (which is not looking so hot these days).
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Read my comments earlier in this thread about Seymore. He’s not the issue. Our interior D-Line play has been very solid.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 am
loads of talent but…
Branch-dumb
Kelly-dumb
McClain-no heart
Huff-no heart
Veldheer Wiz Parsons Carlisle RT
Dmac Reece
CP
Moore DHB
Myers
Tollefson Bryant Houston Shaughnessey
Wheeler Mcclain(only because goethel sucks) Burris
Mitchell
Chekwa Hanson(yikes)
Giordano
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I think Raiders will sign both Carter and Molden.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Can Deion Sanders or Eric Allen still play?
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I’ll never forgive the Chiefs for claiming Deion off of waivers just so we couldnt get him during our 2002 SuperBowl run. Having him replace Phil Bucannan would have been huge for us.
Plus, Deion was one of my top 3 fav players as a kid. I always wanted him in a Raider jersey.
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I totally forgot about that.
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I’ll never forget.
We got Jerry Rice, my other favorite growing up. Then we had a chance at Deion. My life would have been complete after a SuperBowl title.
FUKC.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Not knapps fault, Dansby is just a natural born RB Killer!
(posted with sarcasm)
September 18th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Klas gonna go Gangnam style till Raiders win a game.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Huff,
Are you enjoying playing in a “Real Defense”?
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How many times have we been mad at Gio? I can remember many.
Ive always given Huff the benefit of the doubt, but he’s lost me as a protector after Miami. He’s on his own now, the semi’s are free to roast him.
He got his real D and still tackled like a powder puff player.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:33 am
*I CANT remember many
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Move Huff to CB. That needs to happen yesterday.
If it doesnt, Im going to start getting on the staff.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I agree Chico. Drafting the 26 YO rookie OG over a CB or a pass rushing DE was a mistake.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Just go with tp and goodson.. make the trades now.. we cant beat pits without a miracle.. we had to start fast.. we didnt.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
This is for MR:
http://c0014089.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_9dba361
September 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
gave up on the idea of cp sunday although still think he has enough talent around him but what would you be saying if he played the way manning did last night?
Prediction: Win lose or tie, we play our A$$ES of v Pittsburgh, you heard it hear first
September 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Move Huff to CB. That needs to happen yesterday.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Your thoughts Dell? lol
September 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Raiders ranked #30 in PFT power rankings.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Faux John Madden @FauxJohnMadden
NFL Power Rankings: 1) 49ers, 2) Texans, 3) Falcons.. 30) Browns, 31) Jaguars, 32) U. of Alabama, 33) A kid who plays Madden, 34) Raiders
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September 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Move Huff to CB. That needs to happen yesterday.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Your thoughts Dell? lol
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What are you asking?
This roster move seems obvious. Gio is good. Our CBs are pathetic. We’re not going to find someone on the scrap heap that is a better CB than Huff.
- DB’s are WRs that cant catch
- CBs are Safeties that cant hit or tackle
September 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Huff is not a CB.
Although all our others CB’s on our roster are in name only.
But I have never seen him turn and run with a guy, and make a play other than tackling the guy after they picked up the first down.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Sign carter, if guy can play do it, he is a solid vet who never takes plays off learned from his dad who was fantastic and taught him the right way.
Sign moulden anything will help at this point.
Waiting for the real defense to appear
Waiting for the old offense to return from a long hibernation, wake up Knapp!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I think our Defense could be great, if our offense could run the ball.
I think our offense would play better if they didn’t always start 85 yards away.
Special teams is a disaster!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Everyone on Facebook…
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or keep allowing this mess to continue???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Sign carter, if guy can play do it, he is a solid vet who never takes plays off learned from his dad who was fantastic and taught him the right way.
Sign moulden anything will help at this point.
Waiting for the real defense to appear
Waiting for the old offense to return from a long hibernation, wake up Briesel!
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I fixed it for you.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Riff….post 276….that was the Chargers and our good pal Marty Schotenheimer….but still…..it sucked….. but then again, AD would have probably pulled the same move on them.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
even though we didn’t win by much remember the way we manhadled Denver in the trenches on Monday night last year? What about the offense v SD in SD? What about running all over the Jets? What about beating the best team at the time Houston after Als passing? What happened to that team?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Everyone on Facebook…
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or keep allowing this mess to continue???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
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Nice. Give the players a reason to not respect their coaches. The real Al Davis way. Its always been so successful, I dont know why anyone would think that giving coaches any authority is a good thing.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Not the right fix, you are going to tell me for all his poor play that breisel is why our offense sucks, come on you can do better than that, hey let’s call a reverse on the goal line next time
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Riff,
I used to argue/ debate with Dell that Huff can play CB. I guess that is another debate won by the O.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Bring back Hue?
Bring back Gruden?
anyone?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Riff….post 276….that was the Chargers and our good pal Marty Schotenheimer….but still…..it sucked….. but then again, AD would have probably pulled the same move on them.
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You’re right. All this time I thought it was KC.
Maybe because it happened the same week we played KC at home in the rain.
I skipped my sisters wedding to go to that game. She is so stupid for having her wedding on the same day as a Raider game. Pick a bye week b!tch.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Not the right fix, you are going to tell me for all his poor play that breisel is why our offense sucks, come on you can do better than that, hey let’s call a reverse on the goal line next time
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Go watch the tape lemming.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Bring back Eukajuba
September 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Riff,
I used to argue/ debate with Dell that Huff can play CB. I guess that is another debate won by the O.
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What is the argument? He used to do it very effectively in college. He’s played our nickel CB in the past.
That isnt even a debate. Its facts vs ignorance.
Yes, you won that. You won it before it begun.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I did dope, your the expert I forgot is Knapp actually sitting on your lap right now moron
September 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I did dope, your the expert I forgot is Knapp actually sitting on your lap right now moron
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If you watched the tape and didnt see Briesel getting abused then you are just blind or have an agenda.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Andre Carter is a Qb killa! If he’s healthy
September 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Raider riff you probably would have drafted Charles phillyaw, right Mr. Expert
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Our entire O-Line gets no push.
They are where they are supposed to be, but they do not change the line of scrimmage. You have to change the line of scrimmage whether it is ZBS or Power running.
Our guys are getting beat physically.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Raiders will beat Pitt. on Sunday. SYCK!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Is this Tx Raider? She is in San Antonio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkq6E33k-YY
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Raider riff you probably would have drafted Charles phillyaw, right Mr. Expert
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I wanted O-Line. Just ask Raider O.
How right I was.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am
The pain and anger subsiding, lets get it together Nation! One more time!! RRRRAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDEERRSS!!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Andre Carter should be signed by the end of tomorrow.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am
After last year it was apparent the oline was fine, why don’t you explain the regression to me, even though my iq is high I seem slow
September 18th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Im not comfortable with Huff at CB full time.
Lacks the hip fluidity. But have to give it a try.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Riff,
I used to argue/ debate with Dell that Huff can play CB. I guess that is another debate won by the O.
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What is the argument? He used to do it very effectively in college. He’s played our nickel CB in the past.
That isnt even a debate. Its facts vs ignorance.
Yes, you won that. You won it before it begun.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
You hear that Dell?
This is from a guy with credentials. He played college football.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Everyone on Facebook…
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or keep allowing this mess to continue???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
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Nice. Give the players a reason to not respect their coaches. The real Al Davis way. Its always been so successful, I dont know why anyone would think that giving coaches any authority is a good thing.
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GTFOH!!! You’re an idiot. Probably a Charger or Niner informant planted here to make sure we keep bending over prison style for this deplorable football team.
All we had to do was do what the Niners did when they brought in Harbaugh, but in reverse! Keep what was working, and shore up the defense!
You and Sullivan are the biggest idiots on this blog.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Huff at CB?
lmao
September 18th, 2012 at 8:56 am
You dont want Matt Giordano starting at FS with the speed of Wallace & Brown coming into town.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Huff will bet burned at the corner, I do understand trying it but sorry won’t work, then again the alternative pat lee scares the heck out of me
And please no sterling Moore or DVD talk
September 18th, 2012 at 8:56 am
I’m sure this guy is on this blog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHReow76qOA
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am
After last year it was apparent the oline was fine, why don’t you explain the regression to me, even though my iq is high I seem slow
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We dont have the same exact line as last year.
Get the tape out. And watch the game series by series. I break down every series in the above posts. Who messes up where. Read my posts as you watch the game.
Other people have and they are starting to see what Im seeing.
Trust me, if I was telling a lie, people would be on here blasting me for it. I come across pompous enough to warrant it. But the people that are actually double checking my work are seeing the same stuff.
We’re just getting outmuscled on offense and our D still lacks the necessary discipline. The tape dont lie.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
294.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Raiders ranked #30 in PFT power rankings.
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You mean there’s someone they think is worse?
I fully expected to be # 32.
Thanks Reggie. Thanks DA.
Making the “Nation” proud.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Raider riff you probably would have drafted Charles phillyaw, right Mr. Expert
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I wanted O-Line. Just ask Raider O.
How right I was.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He said if Reggie was as smart as him he would draft an OL.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Huff at CB?
lmao
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My thoughts also.
But hey.. not like we have much to lose.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
hire marty?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
And for all of you Carson Palmer haters, look at Peyton Manning last night. It ain’t easy learning a new system….
Now how about a new system that isn’t even designed for you to be effective and works against all your natural skill sets???
Freakin pathetic.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Bring back Hirum Eugene
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Raiders ranked #30 in PFT power rankings.
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Wow, gave us the benefit of the doubt, eh?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Im not comfortable with Huff at CB full time.
Lacks the hip fluidity. But have to give it a try.
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He aint the be all end all solution, but like you said, we have to try. He cant be any worse than Julio Hanson.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
BigTed707 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Bring back Hirum Eugene
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Id take him over Mike Mitchell.
Doubt he can play anymore though.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The oline was fine last year, and if breisel was so bad that would have be obvious during training camp and pre-season, is he hurt?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Im not comfortable with Huff at CB full time.
Lacks the hip fluidity. But have to give it a try.
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He aint the be all end all solution, but like you said, we have to try. He cant be any worse than Julio Hanson.
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Joselio Hanson is a slot guy. And a good one.
Has no business being on the outside.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
patriots reportedely also keeping a close eye on carter along with a few other teams. Which team do you think he picks?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
334.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Huff at CB?
lmao
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My thoughts also.
But hey.. not like we have much to lose.
++++++++++
Fk it…Pryor at TE or WR too! And let Jano play FB and Lechler MLB!
Have some fun out there boys!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Everyone on Facebook…
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or keep allowing this mess to continue???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
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Nice. Give the players a reason to not respect their coaches. The real Al Davis way. Its always been so successful, I dont know why anyone would think that giving coaches any authority is a good thing.
_____________________________________________________
GTFOH!!! You’re an idiot. Probably a Charger or Niner informant planted here to make sure we keep bending over prison style for this deplorable football team.
All we had to do was do what the Niners did when they brought in Harbaugh, but in reverse! Keep what was working, and shore up the defense!
You and Sullivan are the biggest idiots on this blog.
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Another happy customer. What Im saying stings because it is true. Youre still stuck in the Al Davis way. Its ok, this will be over with in time. The transition wont be as quick and painless as the removal of a bandaid but when its done, you’ll be happy we finally did it.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
jano’s been lifting weights, not many situps tho
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
The Reggie’s two biggest mistakes so far:
-Not drafting a DB, especially early (could we be getting any LESS production from our 1st draft pick this year)
-Trading Murphy
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Murphy would be no better than the #5 wideout right now. No loss.
As for Bergstrom: We’ll probably see him starting at G sometime this season.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The oline was fine last year, and if breisel was so bad that would have be obvious during training camp and pre-season, is he hurt?
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I have no idea what his health status is.
All I know is that the tape shows him getting blown up and pushed right into the face of DMC on numerous runs.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The oline was fine last year, and if breisel was so bad that would have be obvious during training camp and pre-season, is he hurt?
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Brisiel has been our best run blocker this season, has struggled a little in pass protection.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Juron Criner @JbamaCriner82
Today’s been a great day already and it’s only 9am. Thank you
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Maybe Criner was traded to a good team.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Ok guys, I gotta run.
TTL
September 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Nobody has a better opinion on the Raiders zone blocking scheme than the Fullback voted to the NFL’s 2000 All Decade Team … Lorenzo Neal. He said today that if the team sticks with the system they might as well trade Darren McFadden.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The oline was fine last year, and if breisel was so bad that would have be obvious during training camp and pre-season, is he hurt?
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Brisiel has been our best run blocker this season, has struggled a little in pass protection.
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I dunno what you are watching. Breisel has been horrid.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
DMac’s averaging 2.1 yards/carry. I’m not sure if there is such a thing as “best run blocker” under those circumstances.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Juron Criner @JbamaCriner82
Today’s been a great day already and it’s only 9am. Thank you
350.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Maybe Criner was traded to a good team.
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Maybe they put him on IR. No more practicing and getting slaughtered on gamedays while still getting paid…
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
353.ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Nobody has a better opinion on the Raiders zone blocking scheme than the Fullback voted to the NFL’s 2000 All Decade Team … Lorenzo Neal. He said today that if the team sticks with the system they might as well trade Darren McFadden.
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I watch other team’s ZBS and I don’t see the o-line getting blown up and thrown into the face of the RB, so maybe if our o-line was able to run the ZBS we might have a chance….but obviously they cannot run the system.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Another happy customer. What Im saying stings because it is true. Youre still stuck in the Al Davis way. Its ok, this will be over with in time. The transition wont be as quick and painless as the removal of a bandaid but when its done, you’ll be happy we finally did it.
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Based on what???? Knapp’s stellar track record of success throughout his career???
No I don’t like the Zone Blocking Scheme…but even if we are gonna run it in the future, how about getting a TRUE EXPERT IN IT!
Not the one who’s been demoted over and over again, and wasn’t even the coordinator when offered this job with us!!!
You get dumber and dumber by the minute!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
I watch other team’s ZBS and I don’t see the o-line getting blown up and thrown into the face of the RB, so maybe if our o-line was able to run the ZBS we might have a chance….but obviously they cannot run the system.
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Is that on the linemen, or the guy (Pollack) who’s teaching them?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
353.ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Nobody has a better opinion on the Raiders zone blocking scheme than the Fullback voted to the NFL’s 2000 All Decade Team … Lorenzo Neal. He said today that if the team sticks with the system they might as well trade Darren McFadden.
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I watch other team’s ZBS and I don’t see the o-line getting blown up and thrown into the face of the RB, so maybe if our o-line was able to run the ZBS we might have a chance….but obviously they cannot run the system.
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They can run the system. They arent missing their assignments.
They are getting out muscled.
If you are getting out muscled in the ZBS, you will get outmuscled in a power scheme.
Its time to man up.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
never undestood people being upset with trading murphy. do you guys remember how many passes he dropped last year? would you want him ahead of streater or criner?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
I watch other team’s ZBS and I don’t see the o-line getting blown up and thrown into the face of the RB, so maybe if our o-line was able to run the ZBS we might have a chance….but obviously they cannot run the system.
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Is that on the linemen, or the guy (Pollack) who’s teaching them?
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Lineman. Not Pollack. Read my posts above.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am
I jusy dont understant designing an offense around player types that we dont have. For an oc thats been mediocre at best in his stops. It just seems like a throw away yr..
September 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The oline was fine last year, and if breisel was so bad that would have be obvious during training camp and pre-season, is he hurt?
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Brisiel has been our best run blocker this season, has struggled a little in pass protection.
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I dunno what you are watching. Breisel has been horrid.
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The first 2 games is what I have been watching.
He has graded out as our best run blocker.
Keep in mind that all of our run blockers have graded out bad.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
360.Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
353.ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Nobody has a better opinion on the Raiders zone blocking scheme than the Fullback voted to the NFL’s 2000 All Decade Team … Lorenzo Neal. He said today that if the team sticks with the system they might as well trade Darren McFadden.
+++++++++++++++++
I watch other team’s ZBS and I don’t see the o-line getting blown up and thrown into the face of the RB, so maybe if our o-line was able to run the ZBS we might have a chance….but obviously they cannot run the system.
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They can run the system. They arent missing their assignments.
They are getting out muscled.
If you are getting out muscled in the ZBS, you will get outmuscled in a power scheme.
Its time to man up.
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Wrong. This line has 4 of the same 5 starters from last year and they had no issues being outmuscled in the power blocking scheme. Man up is your solution? Is your name Tom Cable?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Lorenzo Neal. He said today that if the team sticks with the system they might as well trade Darren McFadden
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us fans know better
September 18th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Later Riff.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Called for Huff to get a shot at CB at least 3 years ago myself…makes even more sense now that we are playing more zone schemes where he can read and react and wont have to be on an island.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Our starting QB says the linemen are not executing because of practice limitations….but you think they are simply not manning up….smh
September 18th, 2012 at 9:14 am
OK it is clear scheme sucks, period the end, the line was effective .last year end of story, wiz quits why because the scheme sucks get with the program riff!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Our starting QB says the linemen are not executing because of practice limitations….but you think they are simply not manning up….smh
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The proof will be over the next few weeks. Do we see gradual improvement in all phases of o-line play, or do we keep being dominated at the line of scrimmage?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Called for Huff to get a shot at CB at least 3 years ago myself…makes even more sense now that we are playing more zone schemes where he can read and react and wont have to be on an island.
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We have played man the majority of the time still.
The corners being hurt has forced that.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:16 am
You guys keep listening to riff, has all the answers if it were up to him:
Huff at cb- he played it in college which I think was a few years ago
Plug in john vella to replace breisel
make Knapp head coach
September 18th, 2012 at 9:17 am
We’re just getting outmuscled on offense and our D still lacks the necessary discipline. The tape dont lie.
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So how do you change That part?…… Technique? Uncle Wiz was good for that it seemed…..Attitude / Coach it, Veteran leadership?
If it ain’t scheme, or playcalling, OR just flat getting out-played by a better TEAM…..
It’s gotta be the mindset of the individual. Seems like
“The Vision” may not be clear; the vision that’s been the theme the ENTIRE offseason……Man, that’s hard to jumpstart once season is rolling.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:17 am
If these guys are gonna tweet something why don’t they be a little less vague about what the hel they’re talking about.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
360.Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
353.ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Nobody has a better opinion on the Raiders zone blocking scheme than the Fullback voted to the NFL’s 2000 All Decade Team … Lorenzo Neal. He said today that if the team sticks with the system they might as well trade Darren McFadden.
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I watch other team’s ZBS and I don’t see the o-line getting blown up and thrown into the face of the RB, so maybe if our o-line was able to run the ZBS we might have a chance….but obviously they cannot run the system.
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They can run the system. They arent missing their assignments.
They are getting out muscled.
If you are getting out muscled in the ZBS, you will get outmuscled in a power scheme.
Its time to man up.
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Wrong. This line has 4 of the same 5 starters from last year and they had no issues being outmuscled in the power blocking scheme. Man up is your solution? Is your name Tom Cable?
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Raider Riff is a fool. I guess Wiz2 got OUTMUSCLED last year against San Diego when we blew them out using the power scheme right?
This guy Riff is worthless…A complete waste of bandwidth on this blog.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Here’s my Tweet:
“Awesome”.
What does that tell you? Nothing.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Here’s another one:
“God is great” “Thanks”.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 am
..or:
“I just wanted to say to the Nation….
September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Arm chair my sentiments exactly,
September 18th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Lorenzo Neal doesn’t agree with Riff.
I’ll go with Neal. He played football in college and the NFL.
Better credentials and more qualified to judge schemes and OCs.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Maybe Criner got woken up with a BJ from whoever he took home last night. Unless he gives some news, who cares?
The only thing I can think is that he was told he’s going to be a big part of the gameplan this week, since the Steelers top corners are all 6′+ and they need a big body.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Huff will fail at CB just like he has failed at SS and FS.
Huff is not the solution, he is part of the problem.
Reggie just needs time and assets to clean house on the defensive side of the ball.
The offense should have been left alone with Saunders in charge, but Reggie let DA fall for Knapp’s snake oil pitch, and now the 2012 season is gone, and our best offensive players are being self-neutralized.
What a shame.
I hope DA learns a lesson from this….that every decision is crucial, and you are only as strong as your weakest link….and those would be the coaches you hired as OC and ST coordinator.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am
This won’t be easy…it’s gonna take some time. Be patient.
Gotta give this new staff at least 7 yrs. to see things start to turn around.
Maybe in yr. 8 we can start to see some improvement.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:22 am
383.DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am
This won’t be easy…it’s gonna take some time. Be patient.
Gotta give this new staff at least 7 yrs. to see things start to turn around.
Maybe in yr. 8 we can start to see some improvement.
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If you smoke, careful not to light up around that strawman you just constructed.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I didn’t feel good when wiz suddenly quit during camp very telling sign that he was not in sync with pollack. Now we see why
September 18th, 2012 at 9:22 am
385.elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I didn’t feel good when wiz suddenly quit during camp very telling sign that he was not in sync with pollack. Now we see why
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Yep. Major red flag there.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:25 am
If the run game continues to take a sch!t, I think there’ll be more and more momentum building for a “Trade McFadden” movement.
I’d HATE it, but if he can’t be utilized effectively here, get an asset or two or three for him from a team who can.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Good day Raider Nation.
I hope the coaches film room session got the players attention. It can go either way I guess. Unite them or faction them. It’s hard to say right now if they have the will to get off the mat. But even though it’s irregular to do that, I’m glad Allen is trying.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:28 am
guest123 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Good day Raider Nation.
I hope the coaches film room session got the players attention. It can go either way I guess. Unite them or faction them.
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If it factions them, then they’re not worth their salary or a place on the team. It means they can’t face up to their mistakes.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Posted a comment on fire Knapp Facebook page. Fun stuff
Personally it is just a nightmare for me year after year of pathetic football, Sunday I was a basket case, my poor dog must of thought I lost my mind, we all can’t take this crap anymore.
.like one of my favorite old bands The Stranglers -somethings got to change.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:29 am
McFadden for Chris Johnson.
Don’t trade dmac!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:29 am
McFadden for Chris Johnson.
Don’t trade dmac!
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At least not for Chris Johnson, of all people.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Why waste McFadden’s talent on a team like this? Trade him to a legit NFL team and watch him run all over the NFL, like Moss did once traded to a legit NFL team.
Why punish McFadden? Or Palmer for that matter?
Blow it up and completely re-build.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:32 am
384.SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:22 am
383.DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am
This won’t be easy…it’s gonna take some time. Be patient.
Gotta give this new staff at least 7 yrs. to see things start to turn around.
Maybe in yr. 8 we can start to see some improvement.
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If you smoke, careful not to light up around that strawman you just constructed.
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I’m just being facetious…
Frustrated at having a season I was actually looking forward to go down in flames when it just started.
If I could root for another team..I would have a long time ago.
It’s in my DNA to be all Raiders…which leads to alot of frustration and disappointment.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:32 am
I was joking, if they want to throw locker in the trade maybe
September 18th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Where did Riff go?
Must have been time to open the doors at Big 5,
or is it Lids that he works at?
That guy is toeing the company line,
Should send Reggie Hack his resume…
WTF is going on with our team?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Manning didn’t look good last night! But he will still smoke us….and I will be at the game to watch every agonizing moment and my buddies, who are Broncos’ fans, will pour buckets of ridicule on me from every direction….but they will not get a reaction from me, as I will be day dreaming about the 59-14 beat down I watched a couple of years ago!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:38 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Where did Riff go?
Must have been time to open the doors at Big 5,
or is it Lids that he works at?
That guy is toeing the company line,
Should send Reggie Hack his resume…
WTF is going on with our team?
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KNAPP is what happened!
We went from being one of the most explosive (top 5) offenses in NFL to one of the worse!
DUMP ZBS!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:40 am
I’m just being facetious…
Frustrated at having a season I was actually looking forward to go down in flames when it just started.
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Sorry for the flippant comment, then. I feel your pain, man. Believe me, I do
September 18th, 2012 at 9:40 am
LMAO White Devil.
Smoke some trees. That will help with your day dream. Good luck.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:42 am
This is a FULL rebuild.
Reggie/D.A. could care less about the current roster, this season, etc… This year is about sucking, getting picks, and a full system change.
So frustrating after watching 2 straight seasons of exciting offense. I nkow there is no way it could have happened, but I would have taken Hue and HIS D-Coordinator ALL DAY.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Just traded CJ2K for Brandon Marshall and Torrey Smith….HELL YEAH!!
Now that’s a sucka trade!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Why waste McFadden’s talent on a team like this? Trade him to a legit NFL team and watch him run all over the NFL, like Moss did once traded to a legit NFL team.
Why punish McFadden? Or Palmer for that matter?
Blow it up and completely re-build.
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A poor craftsman blames his tools. Give an idiot a shiny new set of MAC tools and he’ll still somehow find a way to smash his fingers. No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The problem is not in the tools, which are high quality, but the man that is vainly attempting to use them.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Our offense was explosive last year?
Funny how fans memories are.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Big fvcking deal riff played college ball. I played semi-pro 18 years ago and got payed for it! (For one season anyways)
This guy is going back to watch this debacle over and over and because he played football this makes him some expert on football?! I say he needs to open the blinds, slip out of his raider jammies and take a break from football, at least until this Sundays meltdown.
Plenty of people on this blog that haven’t claimed to have played football and you probably havent, but you sure as shlt know what you’re talking about.
A blind man can see Knapp is a failure, and I’m leaning towards annointing DA just the same.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Eff rebuilding.
We have a capable vet QB, elite RB, good WRs and TEs, and Reece. We can/ should score more than 13.5 points per game.
Eff Knapp!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:49 am
This entire mess started on October 23rd, 2011.
McFadden goes down with an injured foot on a short pass play. If McFadden had not been injured, he and Palmer would have wreaked havoc over the NFL for the remainder of 2011, and the Raiders would have won their division and hosted a home playoff game. Mark Davis would not have had the excuse he needed to fire Hue and things would be very different at least in the short run.
Not saying Hue would have made it work in the long run, but things would be more positive right now.
The football gods frowned upon us that day.
The way things played out, Hue had to go. He showed up the owner and went power hungry and had to be put down, but had he won 10 games and the division, he would still be here, and we may have a new GM, but that GM would have had to give Hue another shot.
Just one play ruined at least two seasons.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:52 am
404.guest123 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Why waste McFadden’s talent on a team like this? Trade him to a legit NFL team and watch him run all over the NFL, like Moss did once traded to a legit NFL team.
Why punish McFadden? Or Palmer for that matter?
Blow it up and completely re-build.
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A poor craftsman blames his tools. Give an idiot a shiny new set of MAC tools and he’ll still somehow find a way to smash his fingers. No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The problem is not in the tools, which are high quality, but the man that is vainly attempting to use them.
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I agree, but the people in charge do not….so talk to them, not me. I want McFadden to be used properly in Oakland, but if not, then his talent should not be wasted.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Dakota…we were at the KC game and when DMac got hurt it was barely noticeable…
Now every time he takes a breather I’m afraid it’s a season ending injury.
That game was the beginning of the end of our season…
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Knapp, 5000 people telling him the Offense doesnt work! Knapp standing pat “this will work”"!!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Testing:
Shít!!!…..Fück!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Eff rebuilding.
We have a capable vet QB, elite RB, good WRs and TEs, and Reece.
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And none of that means anything unless your equation includes a offensive line.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Can we call Chris Johnson back??
September 18th, 2012 at 10:03 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Testing:
Shít!!!…..Fück!!!
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WOW!! COOL!!!
You cursed on the internet!!!!!! Your RAD!!!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I’m as disappointed as the rest of you. And it’s good to get it off your chests. I don’t mean to interrupt because different people greive over the loss of a season differently than others. But I’m done with the comments that point to wallowing in doubt. Enough of this pity party. Let’s take the chicken #### and turn it into chicken salad.
What’s changed from a few weeks ago? Expectations? Maybe it’s better to have the blinders off. To me the only way to solve a problem correctly is to have an accurate diagnosis. We didn’t truly understand the problems with this team. I’m not expecting a turnaround this year, but hoping that Reggie solves this riddle and at least identifies who needs to stay and who needs to go.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:09 am
If the line is going to continue this epicly horrid play, might as well get Bergs in there for Carlisle.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 am
If I could provide an analogy for where the Raiders are, it’s like going on a diet to lose weight and fit into your clothes when you were younger. You stop eating fatty foods not because you are motivated to become a size 32 waist again, but because you want to avoid the alternative which is to resign yourself to a size 38.
We know what we don’t want to be. That is a bigger motivator I think than projecting what you want to be. It’s a much stronger emotion surrounding a fear and hate of losing than the euphoria of winning. We need to feed that emotion of not giving up or letting up. Show the team what a 2-14 team looks like and the impacts it has on careers, some of which are ended prematurely. Let that sink in.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DAV,
OL is another issue this season. Our OL played better last year. We still have Veldheer, Wiz, CC, and Barnes (before the injury). It’s the scheme and coaching.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:11 am
414.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:03 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Testing:
Shít!!!…..Fück!!!
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WOW!! COOL!!!
You cursed on the internet!!!!!! Your RAD!!!!!
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Just testing if this blog blocks the í and the ü. You don´t need to be ironic.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Didnt get to see Sunday’s debacle since I was in the ER with kidney stones.. Maybe it was better that I didnt…
My bad, but I didnt realize we moved DVD out, until last nite.. Granted, he isnt Nnamdi, but we need him right now… WTF?? Kinda like the Sterling Moore f-up last season…
Why cant we find a quality CB already?? C’mon Reggie!!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:13 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:11 am
414.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:03 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Testing:
Shít!!!…..Fück!!!
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WOW!! COOL!!!
You cursed on the internet!!!!!! Your RAD!!!!!
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Just testing if this blog blocks the í and the ü. You don´t need to be ironic.
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Ironic? LOL.. What?!?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DAV,
OL is another issue this season. Our OL played better last year. We still have Veldheer, Wiz, CC, and Barnes (before the injury). It’s the scheme and coaching.
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I dont count Carlisle, he’s playing a position he’s never played. Like learning how to write with the opposite hand.
We have Veldheer who seems like he cant take the next step.
Wiz has practiced 9 times in a brand new offense & scheme.
Good news is its all fixable. Just takes…..time.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:15 am
See, the emotion of losing is already permeating this blog. Doubt and undervalued esteem of your team follow and pretty soon, you take that emotion and think it will give you a shield for when the losses come. But it wont give you any comfort. The losses will pile up, but the only way to get out of this funk is fight your way out of your corner. No one is going to show us any mercy. We got to play like there’s nothing to lose, play for today not tommorow. Don’t give in to the loser mindset. It’s no comfort to think that way even though many think it is.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
So I heard comments from Bob Wylie himself last night. He says he DID run ZBS last year, they were NOT exclusively power blocking, and that McFadden flourished on ZBS plays. You can put to rest the nonsense that DMAC can’t run behind, or doesn’t like the ZBS.
The facts are that the OLine just simply isn’t getting the job done, our offensive woes rest squarely on their lack of getting any push up front.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
We chose not to return the same OL from last year, we chose to sign Brisiel over Satele….last years unit allowed just 25 sacks and produced the 7th ranked rushing attack, with # 20 playing 6 games….OL was fine until we messed with it.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:19 am
bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
So I heard comments from Bob Wylie himself last night. He says he DID run ZBS last year, they were NOT exclusively power blocking, and that McFadden flourished on ZBS plays. You can put to rest the nonsense that DMAC can’t run behind, or doesn’t like the ZBS.
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Got a link for that? I don’t doubt you, I’d just like to read/hear the whole thing for myself
September 18th, 2012 at 10:19 am
What about points?
Last years offense was SO great, but how many PPG did they average?..
September 18th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Kidnap Knapp!
I urge my Green Party brothers in Oak to rescue our team from an evil named Knapp. Kidnap Knapp for the rest of the season, but don’t harm him (unless he talks about his scheme working and he needs more time then you are allowed to beat some sense into the bastard).
Is Knapp from Mich?
Damn you Mich!
I also declare war on Mich and all Michiganders!
Good trees! lol
September 18th, 2012 at 10:22 am
421.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:13 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:11 am
414.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:03 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Testing:
Shít!!!…..Fück!!!
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WOW!! COOL!!!
You cursed on the internet!!!!!! Your RAD!!!!!
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Just testing if this blog blocks the í and the ü. You don´t need to be ironic.
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Ironic? LOL.. What?!?
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Sorry, I thought you were ironic. My test of the í and ü is to write them and the word still looking the same as the original. I don´t like when some types something like this: “Chit”. LOL.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:23 am
OL was fine until we messed with it.
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yes, and it may be early to rush to judgment on this year’s 3rd round pick Bergstrom, but it’s not too early to call last years OL pick Barksdale disappointing. Certainly disappointing is the fact we signed a throwaway from the Redskins who immediately jumps over both those young draft picks despite no training camp or OTA’s with the team. Poor track record on developing and retaining OL talent. We seem to be shooting ourself in the foot there.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
We chose not to return the same OL from last year, we chose to sign Brisiel over Satele….last years unit allowed just 25 sacks and produced the 7th ranked rushing attack, with # 20 playing 6 games….OL was fine until we messed with it.
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Thank you.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
Chargers working out Chris Carr. Raiders will have some competition for available CBs this week.
From the sounds of it, the Raiders are having about a gazillion guys in this week for workouts.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Got a link for that? I don’t doubt you, I’d just like to read/hear the whole thing for myself
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Moving the Chains on Sirius NFL radio. They were talking about how many emails and calls they had gotten to say that DMac couldn’t run behind the zbs and that Knapp was ruining him and, pretty much all the same crap you read here 1000 times a day. They said facts are facts, the oline isn’t getting it done.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:27 am
HGDaddy Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
Chargers working out Chris Carr. Raiders will have some competition for available CBs this week.
From the sounds of it, the Raiders are having about a gazillion guys in this week for workouts.
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You’re welcome.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
So I heard comments from Bob Wylie himself last night. He says he DID run ZBS last year, they were NOT exclusively power blocking, and that McFadden flourished on ZBS plays. You can put to rest the nonsense that DMAC can’t run behind, or doesn’t like the ZBS.
The facts are that the OLine just simply isn’t getting the job done, our offensive woes rest squarely on their lack of getting any push up front.
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Exactly. Nobody runs solely ZBS or solely angle blocking anymore.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Would you guys take Carr back? Well, he can return kicks as well…
September 18th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Guest123 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:23 am
OL was fine until we messed with it.
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yes, and it may be early to rush to judgment on this year’s 3rd round pick Bergstrom, but it’s not too early to call last years OL pick Barksdale disappointing. Certainly disappointing is the fact we signed a throwaway from the Redskins who immediately jumps over both those young draft picks despite no training camp or OTA’s with the team. Poor track record on developing and retaining OL talent. We seem to be shooting ourself in the foot there.
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Willie Smith becoming the #1 backup OT has nothing to do with Bergstrom, as they play different positions.
However, it is a 100% indictment of Joe “Feet of Concrete” Barksdale.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
The problem with our Oline isn’t Briesel over Satele. Briesel is an upgrade over Carlisle. Carlisle is struggling at LG and Wiz2 is struggling at C. IMO we should move Wiz back to LG and put Parsons in at C. We are going to struggle at RT the whole season, but we will upgrade that position in the offseason
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DAV….22.4 I believe….so far its 13.5
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Would you guys take Carr back? Well, he can return kicks as well…
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Upgrade over Francies.
Francies better in coverage than Adams.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Steve Sabol passed…RIP
Name sounds familiar, who was that?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:31 am
That is true DAV!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1yVKpWrv1k
Look at these McFadden highlights from last season and tell me where you see zone blocking? The offensive line in these highlights looks NOTHING like the guys on the field in 2012. Look at the blocking down the field. Look at the holes. Look at the linemen blocking their opponents one on one. No shifting and falling around cut blocking just straight up power blocking opening good holes that McFadden dominated with.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Sullivan44,
Sorry dude you are skewing the rankings claiming the Raiders are 15th in the league offensively. Wrong again!
Read the following stats that come from NFL.com:
1. PTS
13.5
(31st)
2. YDS
358.5
(15th)
3. PASS YDS
324.5
(4th)
4 RUSH YDS
34.0
(31st)
September 18th, 2012 at 10:32 am
441.hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Steve Sabol passed…RIP
Name sounds familiar, who was that?
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Sch!t really?
NFL films guy who took over after his did, Ed, passed.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Yeah Guest….I’m finding it easier to try and figure out “WHY” this is happening. I’ve watched pieces of the games over and over. Like Riff’s been saying, the more you watch, the more you see. You can point to so many things that are deficiant.
The crappy part is, I realize more now, that my high expectations were based on nothing.
If our O-line is getting abused, and guys miss tackles, take bad angles etc….
Then we got more problems than just “Scheme”. I don’t know how far back they need to go to fix some of this stuff. Alot of it seems elementary, Basic BASIC Sh*t. But isn’t it always?
If the right play was called, the assignment correct, and you’re consistantly getting beat by the guy in front of you…..I have to think it’s an attitude problem.
I don’t even know what I’m trying to say..Searching for an explanation.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Steve Sabol passed…RIP
Name sounds familiar, who was that?
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NFL Films guru. What a loss.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:34 am
So I heard comments from Bob Wylie himself last night. He says he DID run ZBS last year, they were NOT exclusively power blocking, and that McFadden flourished on ZBS plays. You can put to rest the nonsense that DMAC can’t run behind, or doesn’t like the ZBS.
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Doesn’t matter bro, they won’t listen.
I posted actual NFL.com film from 2010 games, showing Darren killing it in games running CLEAR AS DAY ZBS runs, and nothing but crickets.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I cant argue over the phone!!….help me guys…..lol…later.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:35 am
448.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:34 am
So I heard comments from Bob Wylie himself last night. He says he DID run ZBS last year, they were NOT exclusively power blocking, and that McFadden flourished on ZBS plays. You can put to rest the nonsense that DMAC can’t run behind, or doesn’t like the ZBS.
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Doesn’t matter bro, they won’t listen.
I posted actual NFL.com film from 2010 games, showing Darren killing it in games running CLEAR AS DAY ZBS runs, and nothing but crickets.
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Still got those links, JFB? I’d like to see them.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:36 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:32 am
441.hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Steve Sabol passed…RIP
Name sounds familiar, who was that?
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Sch!t really?
NFL films guy who took over after his did, Ed, passed.
Yeah, according to Schefter…brain tumor?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:36 am
436.RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
So I heard comments from Bob Wylie himself last night. He says he DID run ZBS last year, they were NOT exclusively power blocking, and that McFadden flourished on ZBS plays. You can put to rest the nonsense that DMAC can’t run behind, or doesn’t like the ZBS.
The facts are that the OLine just simply isn’t getting the job done, our offensive woes rest squarely on their lack of getting any push up front.
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Exactly. Nobody runs solely ZBS or solely angle blocking anymore.
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This is like claiming you run a hybrid defense because 5% of the time you play a 3-4 and 95% of the time you played a 4-3. Wrong, you play a 4-3 defense.
Last two seasons, as our HC and our owner announced….we used a power blocking scheme AND IT WORKED!
I am all for mixing it up, but lets be real here.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:37 am
RIP Steve Sabol
Author of “The Autumn Wind”
September 18th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Wow, didn’t know he penned The Autumn Wind!
Lost a real influential NFL guy today!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Look at these McFadden highlights from last season and tell me where you see zone blocking? The offensive line in these highlights looks NOTHING like the guys on the field in 2012. Look at the blocking down the field. Look at the holes. Look at the linemen blocking their opponents one on one. No shifting and falling around cut blocking just straight up power blocking opening good holes that McFadden dominated with.
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Out of the mouth of our OLine coach himself. If that doesn’t prove it then nothing will.
It’s always the scheme in here. Its the ZBS’s fault, its the vanilla man 2 man’s fault, its the 4-3’s fault… when will you guys FINALLY just admit that the Oakland Raiders are LOADED with inferior talent. We don’t have good football players. We over rate and over-estimate all these guys, and then complain complain complain that the scheme is to blame. It’s the players. There are MAYBE 5-7 guys on this team that could start for the other 31 teams, maybe 5-7 more guys who would be considered quality depth for other teams, and the other 35 guys are scrubs that might make up the bottom 4-5 roster spots on most teams, but certainly not be considered starters as they are here. Face facts. It is going to be another few years while reggie eliminates all the roster marginalia and gets REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS in here.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Steve and his Dad Ed created NFL films. There voice will be legendary and hard to replace.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
2010 “we’re not losers anymore”
2011 “we’re building a bully”
2012 “put your pants”
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Last two seasons, as our HC and our owner announced….we used a power blocking scheme AND IT WORKED!
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Bob Wylie’s exact quote was “…we ran a good mix of power and zone blocking, and Darren flourished behind either…”
It doesn’t matter WHAT scheme you are running, you either make the block or you don’t. Right now our OLine is NOT making the blocks.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:46 am
The Autumn wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
Swaggering boisterously.
His face is weatherbeaten
He wears a hooded sash
With a silver hat about his head
And a bristling black mustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold.
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
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RIP Sabol
September 18th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Last year we gave up 25 sacks.
3 through 2 games is on pace for 24
September 18th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I e-mailed Sabol back in June 2011, telling him how much I loved both “Autumn Wind” and the ESPN shows he did on Monday night back in the 80s. Very glad I did so now.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:47 am
The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won
R.I.P Steve Sabol
September 18th, 2012 at 10:47 am
art shell + bed & breakfast > DA and knappy dugout
September 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Last year we gave up 25 sacks.
3 through 2 games is on pace for 24
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Probably more impressive if you factor in teams know we cant run.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Right now our OLine is NOT making the blocks.
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So now the question is: why not? It returned 4 of 5 starters.
Bad coaching from Pollack? Was Satele secretly the linchpin of that line? Mayan curse?
Seriously, someone help me out here, cuz I got nothing right now
September 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
2010 = no knuckleheads
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Huge loss.
RIP
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RIP Steve Sabol.
Tha
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Thanks for keeping the Raiders relevant through all of the bad years with the autumn wind films, Steve Sabol.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
#455
If that is true, how did we go 16-16 the last 2 seasons with most of the “good” players you talk about injured for significant chunks of time?
I have no problem giving Reggie time because it’s obvious that this team is going to be gutted. BUT, he can barely get through a press conference without sounding like an elementary school student so I’m not sold at all.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
So last year we were not EXCLUSIVELY a power blocking scheme….yeah, just like we were not EXCLUSIVELY a 4-3 defense because once in a blue moon we ran a 3-4.
Does that really make any difference? Look at the highlights. Look at the plays that got us big yards. Guys blocking one on one down the field…..that is not zone blocking, that is power blocking. Look at those runs against the Texans and Browns and Denver. Power blocking.
Arguing that we mixed it in once in a while last year does not support the argument that it is now the right system to run with the players we have.
Same o-line with one exception and this is the result?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Right now our OLine is NOT making the blocks.
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So now the question is: why not? It returned 4 of 5 starters.
Bad coaching from Pollack? Was Satele secretly the linchpin of that line? Mayan curse?
Seriously, someone help me out here, cuz I got nothing right now
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Your right handed. You have to take a cursive writing test.
Then your told you have to take it left handed.
Oh yea, and you cant practice writing cursive left handed.
Test time.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:51 am
It doesn’t matter WHAT scheme you are running, you either make the block or you don’t. Right now our OLine is NOT making the blocks.
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Pretty cut and dry. Who do you think is more frusterated by it, US….the fans
Or DMAC? I’m sure Darren wants to throw his helmet into the wall like a fast ball and watch it break into pieces.
Lotta people sayin’ “He Sucks” again…..He knows he doesn’t, we all “should” know that too.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I always liked Bob Wylie’s system of mixing power and zone blocking. That to me was like a version of being “multiple” as the Tarver likes to describe his defense. But the main point is that his O-lines were getting the job done and opening gaps for either McFadden or Bush to stroll through. The current ZBS is slow to develop holes, the holes are narrow and close too fast. The entire system is a failure whether or not its the scheme or the players. It wasn’t broke before, but now it is broke. It didn’t have to be tinkered with, but here we are.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:53 am
So now the question is: why not? It returned 4 of 5 starters.
Bad coaching from Pollack? Was Satele secretly the linchpin of that line? Mayan curse?
Seriously, someone help me out here, cuz I got nothing right now
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WiZ was MUCH better at guard. I think Cooper is regressing badly. Move Wiz back to guard, and put Parsons at Center and I think our blocking will improve. Next year draft the best center you can find, get a good prospect for RT (maybe a vet FA that can start a year) and our Oline will be fine.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:53 am
@Bcz, would you consider Branch a real football player? Sure didn’t look the part and Reggie put his name all over that one. So who’s to blame? The coaches for not coaching him up or Reggie for not recognizing marginalia?
So we ran ZB last year. Who knew losing Satele and moving Wiz II would be HUGE. Shouldn’t the coaches or Reggie have identified that this was going to be an issue? Heck, now that we know we ran ZBS last year, that’s even more an indictment if our current coaches than anything. At least before we could say they’re implementing something new. Now what’s the excuse?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:55 am
in order, who do we blame:
Knapp?
DA?
CP?
Chubby Checker?
Mcclain?
Frank Pollack?
Al Davis?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:55 am
436.hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Would you guys take Carr back? Well, he can return kicks as well…
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I doubt Reggie wants to bring in any Ex-Davis players. Even though he makes perfect sense ith the struggles at both positions. (CB & KR)
September 18th, 2012 at 10:55 am
459.bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Last two seasons, as our HC and our owner announced….we used a power blocking scheme AND IT WORKED!
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Bob Wylie’s exact quote was “…we ran a good mix of power and zone blocking, and Darren flourished behind either…”
It doesn’t matter WHAT scheme you are running, you either make the block or you don’t. Right now our OLine is NOT making the blocks.
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Hey, if the man said it, then fine. It is not on the highlights, but okay. So if the players are almost all still here, and we ran it to such success last year, then what has changed? The players all drop off HGH or something? Or is what Wylie ran a different version of the scheme that Knapp has brought over from Houston? Something changed, and it wasn’t the players.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Reggie time because it’s obvious that this team is going to be gutted. BUT, he can barely get through a press conference without sounding like an elementary school student
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the guy woudn’t get hired for the drive thru but he aced marks interview/thorough search!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Pollack’s arrival may be credited to Greg Knapp, who recently was hired to be Oakland’s offensive coordinator. Both were on Houston’s staff last season.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
You know what they say about Pollacks…..
September 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Well at least after all the complaining about the defense that wore down in the 2nd half and the poor special teams play, we finally get to the key of the season and why we are now where we are.
It’s the failure of the O-line. That one piece is the most crucial failure, and everything steamrolls off that inertia.
Fix that one component, the O-line. That will itself solve a number of other demons that this team is battling. Don’t fix it and it all falls apart like a thrift store suit.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
You know what they say about Pollacks…..
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when does the lakers season start again?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:02 am
486.inonewordraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
You know what they say about Pollacks…..
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when does the lakers season start again?
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Whenever Dwight’s back says it does.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:03 am
You have to ask yourself where the Raiders would be in marketing terms without Steve Sabol. I mean for the most part we were one pile of suck between Bo’s injury and “Wheatley won’t go down!”…an 8 year span, then again from Chucky’s revenge to, well, the present, if you’re judging by winning seasons. It has not been a good couple of decades. Raiders’ football in and of itself certainly isn’t helping marketing. Raiders’ apparel being appealing to urban culture kind of played out in the 1990s. I mean the market’s still there, but not like it was in the gangsta rap heyday of the late 1980s/early 1990s.
Steve Sabol and NFL films always treated the Raiders like they were still on top. I think NFL films based on the Raiders were more intriguing and exciting than their films based on any other teams, even the dynasties like SF and New England. Was Sabol a Raider fan? He did the organization and its image a lot of justice, that’s for certain.
Sabol was an underrated film producer in artistic terms, too. I remember reading a book about film making and the author was kind of making fun of the fact that the NFL actually had a film company. Wonder if this author ever has or ever will create a legacy of films that NFL Films has.
RIP, Steve. And thanks for the pictures that will last an eternity.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:02 am
486.inonewordraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
You know what they say about Pollacks…..
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when does the lakers season start again?
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Whenever Dwight’s back says it does.
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September 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
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Well then…..
fk u guys 2 on this beautiful morning in the O-A-K
September 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
What up DMAC
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Offense was ranked 9th last year. It’s ranked 15th this year. Still better than average. Fans may be pushing the panic button but I’m sure management isn’t.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
What up DMAC
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Nothing much man.
Wondering WTF is up w/ our team?
My sons B-Day (3) is this Sunday, but I don’t know if he ready for a game yet.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of Nnamdi??
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of M. Bush??
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of Z Miller??
September 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Darren McFadden is fine after being poked in the eye, but McFadden’s fantasy owners were not amused when Mike Goodson scored on a 64-yard screen pass while McFadden was getting his eye examined …
Didn’t even notice DMC getting his eye poked!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am
9th ranked? 15h ranked? What stats back that up? Do we keep count of yards produced or first downs?
The only offensive ranking that matters is points scored. All the rest is meaningless stats.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of Nnamdi??
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of M. Bush??
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of Z Miller??
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The only guy that I truly miss in FA is C. Woodson.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Sad, were are prob the worst team in the league right now.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Fire Knapp? Meh. You guys are going to need an offensive ranking worse than 15th in the league to get this movement off the ground. Just rabble-rousing.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
I’ll take Plax right about now.
We need that red zone target.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:15 am
What is the D ranked after 2 games?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am
491.Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Offense was ranked 9th last year. It’s ranked 15th this year. Still better than average. Fans may be pushing the panic button but I’m sure management isn’t.
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I see your point. There’s just alot of frustration seeing the team lose again and not really having confidence that it’s gonna change anytime soon.
It’s all about winning…people don’t wanna have to wait a long time for that to happen and feel they’ve waited enough.
Losing just sucks all the way around.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am
493.Raider-in-PA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of Nnamdi??
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of M. Bush??
Why in the HE!! did we get rid of Z Miller??
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1) Money
2) Not a clue. There’s Reggie’s big mistake right now.
3) Money/he’s one concussion away from drinking through a straw the rest of his life
September 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Who’s buying the Raiders chances to win Sunday?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I know I will be screaming at the TV for a W
September 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Matt Barkley anyone??
September 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
503.raiderinparadise Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Who’s buying the Raiders chances to win Sunday?
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Drunks?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Raider-in-pa,
We got rid of those guys so we could pay Big money to guys like huff, McClain, branch and routt lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I still believe in DA, but never liked the Knapp hiring.
We can’t be mad at Knapp. He got hired by DA. He may of fked up big time on this move.
Its still early though, but we def. need a big win this Sunday.
We need to get the O-line clicking!ASAP!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Guest, offensive ranking may be meaningless to you, it’s not to team management. They consider all of the numbers. That’s their job.
Going from 9th to 15th is not that drastic of a decline. And I can tell you why. Our offense was not great last year. It was a high risk offense that saw success early in the season due to catching opponents off guard, not unlike Steve Spurrier in Washington years back. But we know how it goes in this league. Defensive coaches watch film, for about 23 hours a day. They’re going to catch up. And they caught up with Hue Jackson.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:18 am
505.Raider-in-PA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Matt Barkley anyone??
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No.
Aaron Murray or Geno Smith please.
Better yet: Terrelle Pryor
Best of all: The team pulls itself together behind Carson Palmer and rights the ship
September 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Fck, I meant eating his dinner through a straw. Stupid brain.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am
As bad as Oakland has been, I will NEVER give up the ship!!
Here’s hoping the boys pull it together, the DBs step up BIG-TIME and they smack SH!TTSBURGH in f-ing mouth!!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Michael Bush was no big loss. The fact that he signed with Chicago AS A BACKUP shows that he had value as a late-game hammer, but nothing more.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Microphone Checwa!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
SliverNBlackPA:
I’m with you on the Pryor thing… Whats the likelyhood of it happening this season??
September 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Guest, offensive ranking may be meaningless to you, it’s not to team management. They consider all of the numbers. That’s their job.
Going from 9th to 15th is not that drastic of a decline. And I can tell you why. Our offense was not great last year. It was a high risk offense that saw success early in the season due to catching opponents off guard, not unlike Steve Spurrier in Washington years back. But we know how it goes in this league. Defensive coaches watch film, for about 23 hours a day. They’re going to catch up. And they caught up with Hue Jackson.
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I dont think anyone caught up with Hue. I think our guys continued to let him down.
If DHB doesnt fumble against Detroit, we win that game.
Our guys have a history of blowing the game at the best times possible.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Raiders ranked #15 in defense. Last week they were #5.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Palmer still has the zip and arm … he has leadership and out of all the bad things right now, he is a surprise to me, he is out there battling and getting the ball out and taking hits.
0-2 and countless issues but when QB play isnt even close to the top of concerns, you have to be postive things can change.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:22 am
515.Raider-in-PA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
SliverNBlackPA:
I’m with you on the Pryor thing… Whats the likelyhood of it happening this season??
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If we’re 0-5 or 1-4 headed into the Jacksonville game, I’d say the odds are 50/50.
I just hope it doesn’t come to that.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Let’s get back to COdE Black atleast we were at .500 with it last year…. We’re .000 with put your pants or whatever other phrases We have used this year lol
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Raiders ranked #15 in defense. Last week they were #5.
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Thanx
I know its only 2 games, but I still like what I’m seeing from Tarver and the D. I think the D will only get better w/ time, but the DB situation worries me.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Oh, so Hue Jackson gets the luxury of blaming the players for “letting him down”, but Knapp must take accountability…
smh
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
and Palmer has been doing well with 00000000-zero-nada run game and a defense that has forced zero turnovers … none …. zerooooooooooo!!!! Tarver? come on, man.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Hey, if the man said it, then fine. It is not on the highlights, but okay. So if the players are almost all still here, and we ran it to such success last year, then what has changed? The players all drop off HGH or something? Or is what Wylie ran a different version of the scheme that Knapp has brought over from Houston? Something changed, and it wasn’t the players.
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Actually it WAS the players. Veldheer is the only constant from last year. you are underestimating the challenge of switching positions on the oline.
First change, Coop to LG from RG (the left and right side of the oline has been described by NFL Olineman as being as different as writing with your right and left hands) Coop is getting older, and his ability is fading.
Second change, Wiz to Center, wiz injured most of the summer, Parsons to center, no continuity at the ANCHOR of the oline
3rd change Breisel – he has actually been an upgrade over coop at RG, but it is hard to see when the unit as a whole is struggling
4th change – Barnes injured (and not very good to begin with) replaced mid-game by Smith
As you see, there has been a great deal of change in our oline, even though its only “1 player”. Our oline will improve as the flux stops and they gel into 1 constant unit week in and week out.
They should slide Wiz back to his more natural guard position, start parsons at Center, and Cooper can be the swing guard. I think they will end up making this move very soon.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Guest123 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Well at least after all the complaining about the defense that wore down in the 2nd half and the poor special teams play, we finally get to the key of the season and why we are now where we are.
It’s the failure of the O-line. That one piece is the most crucial failure, and everything steamrolls off that inertia.
Fix that one component, the O-line. That will itself solve a number of other demons that this team is battling. Don’t fix it and it all falls apart like a thrift store suit.
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Yep. You are on the mark here for the most part.
But I really dont think our D fell apart from fatigue in Miami. That is a copout. That first TD run they gave up to Reggie was too early in the 3rd to blame fatigue. That was just plain b!itcha55 weak sauce by our guys.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
I am already on draft Pick watch. Looking good for a top five pick baby!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Hey, if the man said it, then fine. It is not on the highlights, but okay. So if the players are almost all still here, and we ran it to such success last year, then what has changed? The players all drop off HGH or something? Or is what Wylie ran a different version of the scheme that Knapp has brought over from Houston? Something changed, and it wasn’t the players.
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Actually it WAS the players. Veldheer is the only constant from last year. you are underestimating the challenge of switching positions on the oline.
First change, Coop to LG from RG (the left and right side of the oline has been described by NFL Olineman as being as different as writing with your right and left hands) Coop is getting older, and his ability is fading.
Second change, Wiz to Center, wiz injured most of the summer, Parsons to center, no continuity at the ANCHOR of the oline
3rd change Breisel – he has actually been an upgrade over coop at RG, but it is hard to see when the unit as a whole is struggling
4th change – Barnes injured (and not very good to begin with) replaced mid-game by Smith
As you see, there has been a great deal of change in our oline, even though its only “1 player”. Our oline will improve as the flux stops and they gel into 1 constant unit week in and week out.
They should slide Wiz back to his more natural guard position, start parsons at Center, and Cooper can be the swing guard. I think they will end up making this move very soon.
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Well said.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:53 am
So now the question is: why not? It returned 4 of 5 starters.
Bad coaching from Pollack? Was Satele secretly the linchpin of that line? Mayan curse?
Seriously, someone help me out here, cuz I got nothing right now
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WiZ was MUCH better at guard. I think Cooper is regressing badly. Move Wiz back to guard, and put Parsons at Center and I think our blocking will improve. Next year draft the best center you can find, get a good prospect for RT (maybe a vet FA that can start a year) and our Oline will be fine.
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Satele was a MUCH BETTER player than “fans” here thought. We were playing well the Minny dome last year when Satele went down late in the lst half. From that point forward our offense stalled. Basically, my advice to the admin would be listen very closely to what the “fans” here think, and then do the complete opposite.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Oh, so Hue Jackson gets the luxury of blaming the players for “letting him down”, but Knapp must take accountability…
smh
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You must not be paying attention to my posts.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
PA:
I hear ya.. Its disheartening that Leinert is the backup and Pryor doesnt even dress… Get the man on the field and put the ball in his hands even if it isnt at the QB position… The guy has skillz as shown in the preseason!!…
September 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Tell me this, Riff,
Did Palmer and McFadden let Knapp down on the dropped pass near the end zone? Isn’t that a TD if either McFadden catches the ball, or Palmer throws it quicker? Didn’t the players let Knapp down? Didn’t Knapp do his job on that play?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Satele > Parsons
September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Regarding this week…what it comes down to for me is this:
even if the o-line starts making its blocks, the WRs start running good routes and front 7 all play disciplined and stay in their lanes…it won’t make a damn bit of difference. Why?
Because the defensive backfield right now is as talentless a group of guys as you’ll find in the NFL right now. Roethlisberger can and will just chuck it downfield to Wallace, Brown and Sanders all day and there won’t be a damn thing the Raiders can do about it.
Palmer: 25/40, 275 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT
McFadden: 16 carries, 48 yards
Roethlisberger spends the 4th quarter in a ballcap on the sidelines after throwing for 350 yards and 4 TDs
Steelers 45 – Raiders 10
Anyone have a convincing counter argument?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Guest123 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I always liked Bob Wylie’s system of mixing power and zone blocking. That to me was like a version of being “multiple” as the Tarver likes to describe his defense. But the main point is that his O-lines were getting the job done and opening gaps for either McFadden or Bush to stroll through. The current ZBS is slow to develop holes, the holes are narrow and close too fast. The entire system is a failure whether or not its the scheme or the players. It wasn’t broke before, but now it is broke. It didn’t have to be tinkered with, but here we are.
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We’ve been mixing it also.
Its a 80/20 split.
Either way, our lineman are getting outmuscled.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
PA:
I hear ya.. Its disheartening that Leinert is the backup and Pryor doesnt even dress… Get the man on the field and put the ball in his hands even if it isnt at the QB position… The guy has skillz as shown in the preseason!!…
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I get that, but the way our o-line is performing right now, he would be at risk to get injured before he can even develop. I would say a goaline package or short yardage at the most.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Tell me this, Riff,
Did Palmer and McFadden let Knapp down on the dropped pass near the end zone? Isn’t that a TD if either McFadden catches the ball, or Palmer throws it quicker? Didn’t the players let Knapp down? Didn’t Knapp do his job on that play?
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Yep. You and I see eye to eye on this. Go read my earliest post and subsequent beat downs of the semis here.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
522.Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Oh, so Hue Jackson gets the luxury of blaming the players for “letting him down”, but Knapp must take accountability…
smh
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It is a damn scary day when I agree with Sulli…
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Microphone Checwa!
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You better Chekwa yoself before you Hek yoself!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
As you see, there has been a great deal of change in our oline, even though its only “1 player”. Our oline will improve as the flux stops and they gel into 1 constant unit week in and week out.
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I have been saying this for two weeks: it’s NOT just one player. We have had two different centers in two games. A new RG, a LG playing a new position and now a new RT. Basically it is ONE GUY who has stayed the same: Veldheer (bless his soul). AND, we are playing a new scheme. Sheeeesh!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I always liked Bob Wylie’s mustache.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Our D-line shows up big time this Sunday to help out our horrible depleted secondary.
We win!
Heard it hear 1st semi’s.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Stats may be important to look at for coaches in determining what is working and what is not..it’s all part of the job with the ultimate goal of game planning to win games.
The only stat that matters is 0-2 right now.
I don’t care where we rank as an offense…if we’re not winning games it doesn’t matter.
SD in 2010 (i believe) ranked # 1 in offense and # 1 in defense…..9-7.
Stats HELP tell a story of what needs to be fixed of course.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:28 am
It’s so maddening to see them drive all the way down the field and get into a 1st and goal situation and seem like they don’t know WTF to do. Like the Hunter who’s got Buck Fever…. and starts pumping his shotgun and blasting shot after shot cause he got excited..Blowin limbs off, taking divits outta the ground and can’t hit the deer 15 feet away cause he panics.
That’s what it feels like watching them in the Redzone..
“OK guys, we’re here….GOTTA SCORE, GOTTA SCORE, GOTTA SCORE…wait, “TIME OUT”…Uh, Darren CATCH…ZING….
Darrius HERE…LOB.
DANGIT ! ! !
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
We’d be better off with old man Willie out in the D-backfield than with the remaining DBs we have….
Wonder what M. Haynes and Lester are up to???
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Regarding this week…what it comes down to for me is this:
even if the o-line starts making its blocks, the WRs start running good routes and front 7 all play disciplined and stay in their lanes…it won’t make a damn bit of difference. Why?
Because the defensive backfield right now is as talentless a group of guys as you’ll find in the NFL right now. Roethlisberger can and will just chuck it downfield to Wallace, Brown and Sanders all day and there won’t be a damn thing the Raiders can do about it.
Palmer: 25/40, 275 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT
McFadden: 16 carries, 48 yards
Roethlisberger spends the 4th quarter in a ballcap on the sidelines after throwing for 350 yards and 4 TDs
Steelers 45 – Raiders 10
Anyone have a convincing counter argument?
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I could go watch some tape on Pitt and tell you the keys to us winning the game, or at least, what I think we can do. But I wont waste my time. Until our guys plan on showing up, no scheme in history will make us competitive against anyone.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Good points bcz24. Mostly the same guys but they did switch positions a bit. Something to factor in.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Regarding this week…what it comes down to for me is this:
even if the o-line starts making its blocks, the WRs start running good routes and front 7 all play disciplined and stay in their lanes…it won’t make a damn bit of difference. Why?
Because the defensive backfield right now is as talentless a group of guys as you’ll find in the NFL right now. Roethlisberger can and will just chuck it downfield to Wallace, Brown and Sanders all day and there won’t be a damn thing the Raiders can do about it.
Palmer: 25/40, 275 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT
McFadden: 16 carries, 48 yards
Roethlisberger spends the 4th quarter in a ballcap on the sidelines after throwing for 350 yards and 4 TDs
Steelers 45 – Raiders 10
Anyone have a convincing counter argument?
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I feel like the D will play well and this will be a low scoring game (20-17) type of game.
I have no idea why.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
533
1.Steelers coming off of a big win with a very physical team. They may be over looking us.
2.I always expect my team won’t get blown out at home.
Come on man.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Good points bcz24. Mostly the same guys but they did switch positions a bit. Something to factor in.
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I brought it up earlier as well but was told that our entire O-Line had been kept in tact. SMH
Those here who think this is the same line as last year are really really really mistaken.
I guess when I say that our O-Line is more important than who our QB is, maybe people should start listening.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Reggie needs to be fixed.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
531.Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Tell me this, Riff,
Did Palmer and McFadden let Knapp down on the dropped pass near the end zone? Isn’t that a TD if either McFadden catches the ball, or Palmer throws it quicker? Didn’t the players let Knapp down? Didn’t Knapp do his job on that play?
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Actually, after rewatching this play 4-5 times, Palmer was right in holding the ball. McFadden would not have gotten in if he through it early, he was watching Myers in the End Zone, the coverage fell back to myers,and DMAC would have scored if he holds the ball. Dmac did not play well in the passing game against miami after coming up huge against SD.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I was in Oakland for the last time the SteAlers came to town… Big Ben threw a beautiful Pick-6 and lost to a futile Raiders team… I couldnt have been prouder (or more hoarse)!!
Never know, any given Sunday!!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
522.Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Oh, so Hue Jackson gets the luxury of blaming the players for “letting him down”, but Knapp must take accountability…
smh
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If it’s not Knapp’s scheme than are we faced with accepting that DMAC is all of a sudden a 2 ypc. running back?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Already happened last week.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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I watched the first 3 quarters and specifically made sure to look at our interior line play. Every play, 3 times over. Seymour and Kelly are not the issue. Whereas Bryant had a pretty bad game.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Tarver’s defense relies on linemen who will do as they’re told and play the gaps they’re told to play.
If Kelly and/or Seymour aren’t doing that, betcha Bilukidi and Bryant will.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I was in Oakland for the last time the SteAlers came to town… Big Ben threw a beautiful Pick-6 and lost to a futile Raiders team… I couldnt have been prouder (or more hoarse)!!
Never know, any given Sunday!!
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Better sign Chris Carr ASAP!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
It’s always the scheme in here. Its the ZBS’s fault, its the vanilla man 2 man’s fault, its the 4-3’s fault… when will you guys FINALLY just admit that the Oakland Raiders are LOADED with inferior talent. We don’t have good football players. We over rate and over-estimate all these guys, and then complain complain complain that the scheme is to blame. It’s the players. There are MAYBE 5-7 guys on this team that could start for the other 31 teams, maybe 5-7 more guys who would be considered quality depth for other teams, and the other 35 guys are scrubs that might make up the bottom 4-5 roster spots on most teams, but certainly not be considered starters as they are here. Face facts. It is going to be another few years while reggie eliminates all the roster marginalia and gets REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS in here.
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The more this goes on the more I have to agree with this. I think I’ve been saying this since 2006. Man you’d think they’d get lucky now and again.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
522.Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Oh, so Hue Jackson gets the luxury of blaming the players for “letting him down”, but Knapp must take accountability…
smh
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If it’s not Knapp’s scheme than are we faced with accepting that DMAC is all of a sudden a 2 ypc. running back?
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Johnny, our line has no push. It aint DMC. Briesel gets shoved into the backfield more often than not.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Anyone know who Rabert Hughes is? Big power back from Notre Dame …. Was very Bush-like …. wish he got a shot with us. or any NFl team, shocked.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I think one adjustment that could be made on offense is moving Goodson up to start and using McFadden as just sort of a utility back. Im thinking of Goodson’s TD Sunday, when he just burned Miami’s whole defense ( I’d actually thought it was McFadden for most of the play), and then Mcfadden’s dropped pass near the end zone.
Goodson is playing better than McFadden. Period.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Tarver’s defense relies on linemen who will do as they’re told and play the gaps they’re told to play.
If Kelly and/or Seymour aren’t doing that, betcha Bilukidi and Bryant will.
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My exact thoughts.
Huffy and Branch are also on my schit list.
Gio and MM are hungry. Watch out!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Briesel is our highest paid o-linemen.
Scary thought. He often looks the worst.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I was out for awhile so did anyone find out what Criner was all happy about?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Quite honestly, I’ve watched both games now several times and McFadden has not played his best. He’s hit the wrong hole, gone down way too easy, dropped some easy passes, not trying for first down yardage etc.
I hope he is disappointed in the way he’s played and gets it going.
The Steelers are a great run defense but like all teams they can be had.
Go McFadden!!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I think one adjustment that could be made on offense is moving Goodson up to start and using McFadden as just sort of a utility back. Im thinking of Goodson’s TD Sunday, when he just burned Miami’s whole defense ( I’d actually thought it was McFadden for most of the play), and then Mcfadden’s dropped pass near the end zone.
Goodson is playing better than McFadden. Period.
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Goodson cannot pick up the blitz.
Go re-watch the tape. He’s not playing better than DMC.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Until our guys plan on showing up, no scheme in history will make us competitive against anyone.
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Sadly the truth
September 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I think one adjustment that could be made on offense is moving Goodson up to start and using McFadden as just sort of a utility back. Im thinking of Goodson’s TD Sunday, when he just burned Miami’s whole defense ( I’d actually thought it was McFadden for most of the play), and then Mcfadden’s dropped pass near the end zone.
Goodson is playing better than McFadden. Period.
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LOL.
Nice to see you havent lost your touch.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Tarver’s defense relies on linemen who will do as they’re told and play the gaps they’re told to play.
If Kelly and/or Seymour aren’t doing that, betcha Bilukidi and Bryant will.
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My exact thoughts.
Huffy and Branch are also on my schit list.
Gio and MM are hungry. Watch out!
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Bryant had a horrible game.
Seymore and Kelly did there jobs. They made gaps for the LBs. They occupied mutiple lineman. Our LBs let them down bigtime.
Its all on tape.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Our only hope of seeing 2-2: Make Goodson starting RB.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 am
At this point, the Steelers looking past us and toward their bye week and the Eagles + the “any given Sunday” thing is about the one realistic shot we’ve got
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 am
SaintKaufman Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Quite honestly, I’ve watched both games now several times and McFadden has not played his best. He’s hit the wrong hole, gone down way too easy, dropped some easy passes, not trying for first down yardage etc.
I hope he is disappointed in the way he’s played and gets it going.
The Steelers are a great run defense but like all teams they can be had.
Go McFadden!!
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DMC hasnt played great, but lets not forget, RBs need to get in a rythmn just like any other skill posittion player.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Our only hope of seeing 2-2: Make Goodson starting RB.
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How is that going to fix our O-Line? Briesel is getting beat up.
How is that going to fix our pass protection? Goodson cant pick up the blitz.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Tarver’s defense relies on linemen who will do as they’re told and play the gaps they’re told to play.
If Kelly and/or Seymour aren’t doing that, betcha Bilukidi and Bryant will.
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My exact thoughts.
Huffy and Branch are also on my schit list.
Gio and MM are hungry. Watch out!
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Bryant had a horrible game.
Seymore and Kelly did there jobs. They made gaps for the LBs. They occupied mutiple lineman. Our LBs let them down bigtime.
Its all on tape.
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Didn’t rewatch the game, but not worried about Bryant.
Bryant > Seymour
September 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
The other I noted from the Miami game is that excluding the missed tackles by our secondary Miami was blocking the crap out of our front 7. Some really great designed plays using WR’s and TE’s to block on the second level.
On the flip side, I give both SD and Miami alot of respect for shutting down our run offense.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Already happened last week.
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Did you guys watch the last game? Reggie Bush’s 24 yard dance? Well, the lst guy to miss was Desmond Bryant.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Goodson can not pick up the blitz? He seemed to pick up the blitz just fine when he trotted 64 yards to the end zone.
McFadden can’t catch a 4 yard pass. The game film certainly determines that as well, does it not?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Saint, watch the McFadden highlights from last season I posted above, and give me one example of blocking that looks at all similar to that from the first two games. Don’t bother, you won’t find it. This is not on McFadden, this is on the oline.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
569,
Judging from performance he’s right.
But….if it’s knee jerk to call for the demotion of an asst. coach after two games it has to be considered knee jerk to demote your “star” rb after two games as well.
I don’t care about peoples feelings (Knapp,s DMAC’s or anyone elses on the team). Just do what is necessary to WIN the dam game…period.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Sorry I pointed out the fact that Sulli was making sense and forced him to start trolling again…
September 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Already happened last week.
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Did you guys watch the last game? Reggie Bush’s 24 yard dance? Well, the lst guy to miss was Desmond Bryant.
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1 bad game for Bryant.
How many no shows for Seymour???????
September 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Please continue holding R Seymour’s crank we are all having a good laugh @ you.
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Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Did you guys watch the last game? Reggie Bush’s 24 yard dance? Well, the lst guy to miss was Desmond Bryant.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing Riff. There was certainly a couple of plays where McFadden was a toe tackle away from being able to get out in space and do damage. I think Bush may taught him the toe tackle take down!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Did you guys watch the last game? Reggie Bush’s 24 yard dance? Well, the lst guy to miss was Desmond Bryant.
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The first guy to miss was Joselio Hanson
Bryant only had an opportunity to miss because he saw what was happening, disengaged from his blocker (on the other side of the line), and came hustling over to try to make a tackle. He overran the play. Wish he hadn’t, but he deserves kudos for even being in a position to affect the play.
Hanson had a dead shot at Bush and just whiffed horribly. Just…atrocious. And then Huff’s and Spencer’s attempts at “tackling”…pathetic.
Bryant is not the reason Bush scored.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Goodson can not pick up the blitz? He seemed to pick up the blitz just fine when he trotted 64 yards to the end zone.
McFadden can’t catch a 4 yard pass. The game film certainly determines that as well, does it not?
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LOL.
As long as guys keep falling into his traps, MR will continue to keep me entertained.
Well played MR, well played.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Goodson cannot pick up the blitz.
Go re-watch the tape. He’s not playing better than DMC.
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True. But McFadden does not look good. He is taking a two yard dive every carry. He does not have his head up looking to make a cut. The second he went out, Goodson went 60+ yards to the house. mcFadden came back in and did his two yard dive routine over and over. And let’s be frank, this wouldn’t be the lst time the guy sulked.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Move Reece to TE.
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Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I think one adjustment that could be made on offense is moving Goodson up to start and using McFadden as just sort of a utility back. Im thinking of Goodson’s TD Sunday, when he just burned Miami’s whole defense ( I’d actually thought it was McFadden for most of the play), and then Mcfadden’s dropped pass near the end zone.
Goodson is playing better than McFadden. Period.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Riff, Goodson doesn’t make excuses about the offensive line. He just performs. When Knapp called the screen play to him, he didn’t sit there and wonder if the line would block. He did his job. He caught the ball (something McFadden had trouble with), then took it right to the heez. That’s what football players do. They play football. Are you blaming the o-line for McFadden muffing that pass near the end zone? Bounced right off his numbers, Riff.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Peemour Bushtard, do you watch the games or just copy/paste internet articles ? You are on the wrong side of every single issue the last 2 years of this blog.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DMAC hasn’t been great, but dude has absolutely no where to run, but to the sidelines for some gaterade.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Goodson can not pick up the blitz? He seemed to pick up the blitz just fine when he trotted 64 yards to the end zone.
McFadden can’t catch a 4 yard pass. The game film certainly determines that as well, does it not?
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Since when is taking a 64 yd screen to the house the same as picking up the blitz.
You go from trolling to making sense and back more than anyone here.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Dakota,
Do you have the games recorded? I can go back and pull up some plays that we can discuss.
I know he’s your boy but guess what?? I’m all in on #20. I think the dude is a frickin stud but I was surprised at some of his choices and drops is all.
He can do better.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Let Goodson fumble a few times, then we won’t be having this conversation again.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Goodson can not pick up the blitz? He seemed to pick up the blitz just fine when he trotted 64 yards to the end zone.
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What are you talking about… Goodson was a receiver on that play, he did not stay in for pass protection. Watch it was a short dump off that caught Miami completely off guard, only 2 defenders even got near Goodson and no one got a hand on him.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
You know what our “realistic” shot is?
McFadden playing like the stud he’s supposed to be and ending this 2 ypc bullcrap…HOLDING TO TD PASSES and being the guy he’s “supposed” to be…and the defense being close to average.
If DMAC will be what he’s supposed to be, than it will free up the passing game and everyone starts clicking.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Please continue holding R Seymour’s crank we are all having a good laugh @ you.
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JAMISTA CLOWN!!!!! We knew you would slither in here sooner or later. Tell us how bad Rich Seymour played the last 7 plays of Miami’s opening drive Jamista. And BTW, has Romney dropped out of the race yet?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
And what is this stuff about McFadden being “one of the most explosive players in the league” we keep hearing from the t.v. guys? Are they saying that to be nice? He never puts moves on defenders. First defender near him takes him down, every time. In fact, McFadden typically just lunges right into the defender. McFadden is overrated. It’s more glaring now than ever. Goodson, meanwhile, is playing football. And we know what Reggie’s looking for.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Riff, Goodson doesn’t make excuses about the offensive line. He just performs. When Knapp called the screen play to him, he didn’t sit there and wonder if the line would block. He did his job. He caught the ball (something McFadden had trouble with), then took it right to the heez. That’s what football players do. They play football. Are you blaming the o-line for McFadden muffing that pass near the end zone? Bounced right off his numbers, Riff.
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Go read my earlier posts.
Im going to say it over again, you and I see eye to eye on this stuff.
But you need to watch the game a few more times and dissect each and every play before you start anointing Goodson.
Im not making any excuses for DMC. He blew a TD chance. Just like Goodson blew two key blocks in the passing game.
Neither guy will be able to run more effective than the other if our O-Line doesnt improve. So with all that said, I dont really see the need to demote DMC.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Let Goodson fumble a few times, then we won’t be having this conversation again.
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Whoah, McFadden certainly is not above coughing it up….
September 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
McFadden is supposed to be our Marshall Faulk. Faulk rarely went down on first contact. He shook the first guy, almost every time. McFadden gets downed by first defender, just about every time.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:47 am
“Someone please cal 9-1-1!”
Sully is killing us.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Goodson cannot pick up the blitz.
Go re-watch the tape. He’s not playing better than DMC.
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True. But McFadden does not look good. He is taking a two yard dive every carry. He does not have his head up looking to make a cut. The second he went out, Goodson went 60+ yards to the house. mcFadden came back in and did his two yard dive routine over and over. And let’s be frank, this wouldn’t be the lst time the guy sulked.
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He cant have his head up. Our OLine is getting pushed back every run play. We didnt change the line of scrimmage ONCE in the Miami game. Go rewatch it. We either hold the line or someone gets pushed back into DMC. Never once did we push forward.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Goodson is playing better than McFadden. Period.
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Based on 1 play? Believe me, Dmac and even Taiwan would have scored on that play. It was one of the few times we actually caught the defense sleeping. They all sold out to the left to stop the run and left an easy jaunt to the endzone for goodson.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I think its about that time for Bryant to take over the majority of snaps over D!ck Seymour.
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Already happened last week.
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Did you guys watch the last game? Reggie Bush’s 24 yard dance? Well, the lst guy to miss was Desmond Bryant.
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1 bad game for Bryant.
How many no shows for Seymour???????
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I don’t know…I got a feeling he’s gonna knock Ben Roethlisberger on his a$$ a couple of times!!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
This is obvious to the most casual fan. Obviously went over MR’s head.
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bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
What are you talking about… Goodson was a receiver on that play, he did not stay in for pass protection. Watch it was a short dump off that caught Miami completely off guard, only 2 defenders even got near Goodson and no one got a hand on him.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Saint,
I do not have them recorded, and you are right, even McFadden could be playing better. His dropped pass sucked. But the blame needs to be placed at the feet of the oline. The blocking is nowhere near what it was last season, either in pass blocking or run blocking. If that is not corrected, then there is nothing palmer or McFadden can do within this offense.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
And that, my firends, sucked a**!
McFadden had a horrible pee wee game in Miami!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I don’t know…I got a feeling he’s gonna knock Ben Roethlisberger on his a$$ a couple of times!!
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I ain’t mad.
Get er done!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
That was always the arguement during the draft was that McFadden had no swivle(new word?), just break away speed. This type of blocking requires a hard sharp cut and burst. I believe he has both of those qualities, it’s the vision to see the hole before it’s there that he may be lacking.
Keep the faith, no way he keeps getting held down.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
So now the case against Goodson is a Dystopian one? He “will” fumble? The scorched earth future on Goodson, huh? See, that’s the thing. That’s your argument because he HASN’T muffed a key play, yet. You’re bringing up the hypothetical of Goodson fumbling because the reality doesn’t exist. Meanwhile, McFadden DID drop a 4 yard lob near the end zone. We don’t have to say, “Wait till McFadden drops a ball near the end zone, in a close game where a TD would have been key”. It happened!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Dakota Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Saint,
I do not have them recorded, and you are right, even McFadden could be playing better. His dropped pass sucked. But the blame needs to be placed at the feet of the oline. The blocking is nowhere near what it was last season, either in pass blocking or run blocking. If that is not corrected, then there is nothing palmer or McFadden can do within this offense.
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Exactly.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
So now the case against Goodson is a Dystopian one? He “will” fumble? The scorched earth future on Goodson, huh? See, that’s the thing. That’s your argument because he HASN’T muffed a key play, yet. You’re bringing up the hypothetical of Goodson fumbling because the reality doesn’t exist. Meanwhile, McFadden DID drop a 4 yard lob near the end zone. We don’t have to say, “Wait till McFadden drops a ball near the end zone, in a close game where a TD would have been key”. It happened!
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Goodson cant pick up the blitz.
Neither can run with our O-Line.
DMC blew one play.
I’ll stick with DMC. At least he draws attention on the play action pass.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Sully
Are you going to jump on Huffs nutz 2 when he gets his 1st int of the season?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
And that, my firends, sucked a**!
McFadden had a horrible pee wee game in Miami!
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A RB is only as good as his OLine
Case in point…. Emmit Smith.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Bcz, are you certain McFadden would have even caught the ball if the Goodson’ TD was his play?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I watched the Houston game as well this wweekend and Foster can actually cut at a 90deg angle when running the stretch play to reverse field on the line. Amazing for a guy his size.
McFadden may want to dial up some Foster highlights to see how it’s done with this style of blocking.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dakota, NFL Rewind, its $35 on NFL.com and you can watch every game for the last 4 years, broadcast version (with the announcer commentary) the short version (penalties, commercials all cut out) and coaches film. Its pretty cool, if you like to rewatch the game and look at more than just where the ball is going.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Peemour Bushtard, who cares what Seymour did on 1 drive he is a washed up loser. Keep sucking on Rich we need the comedy.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Were people really arguing over IQ last night? Glad I wasnt in that arguement LOL
September 18th, 2012 at 11:53 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Did you guys watch the last game? Reggie Bush’s 24 yard dance? Well, the lst guy to miss was Desmond Bryant.
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The first guy to miss was Joselio Hanson
Bryant only had an opportunity to miss because he saw what was happening, disengaged from his blocker (on the other side of the line), and came hustling over to try to make a tackle. He overran the play. Wish he hadn’t, but he deserves kudos for even being in a position to affect the play.
Hanson had a dead shot at Bush and just whiffed horribly. Just…atrocious. And then Huff’s and Spencer’s attempts at “tackling”…pathetic.
Bryant is not the reason Bush scored.
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But Hanson did the right thing by making Reggie Bush come back towards the pursuit. It is then up to the other 10 guys, all who failed miserably. They have a highlight reel run, we are the butt end of jokes. Again.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Gotta run peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears! (fire Tedford)
Go Raiders!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:55 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Peemour Bushtard, who cares what Seymour did on 1 drive he is a washed up loser. Keep sucking on Rich we need the comedy.
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Just substitute you for me, and Romney for seymour, and you have your best post ever.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Peace out DMAC!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Bcz,
That sounds like punishment.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Bottom line… until we get rid of Knapp and his outdated and unispiring offense, we will continue to be this bad. There is no silver lining to this black cloud as long as that dingleberry is our Offensive Coordinator. Last time he was here he had his play calling duties stripped by Barney Rubble!
How can you take a top 10 offense on the cusp of greatness and turn it in to the laughing stock of the league? Hire Greg Knapp, that’s how.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Goodson can’t pick up the blitz?
…now, that may be true. But it’s also a matter of perspective. One could watch these plays where Goodson supposedly fails to pick up a blitz and see where perhaps a lineman could have been at fault. Such an observation is always debatable. But McFadden dropping a pass near the end zone is not debatable. That ball bounced right off his numbers. And, while it was technically “one play”, it was HUGE because the game was close and it resulted in yet another field goal, which are momentum killers when you need a TD and are that close to scoring.
Goodson is looking like a better football player than McFadden right now. And we know what Reggie’s looking for.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Well, I’ll be there for Pitt! Hopefully we play competitive enough to get a chance at the W! Of course, I always want the W, but they need to show something! Play like they have something to prove! Rough them up like they said something bad about your family!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
F this ish, I’m so f’ing tired of it.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dakota, NFL Rewind, its $35 on NFL.com and you can watch every game for the last 4 years, broadcast version (with the announcer commentary) the short version (penalties, commercials all cut out) and coaches film. Its pretty cool, if you like to rewatch the game and look at more than just where the ball is going.
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Ive been watching that stuff religiously.
A lot of the revisionists here could use it. But they wont, they like their “beliefs” and they are sticking to them.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Goodson can’t pick up the blitz?
…now, that may be true. But it’s also a matter of perspective. One could watch these plays where Goodson supposedly fails to pick up a blitz and see where perhaps a lineman could have been at fault. Such an observation is always debatable. But McFadden dropping a pass near the end zone is not debatable. That ball bounced right off his numbers. And, while it was technically “one play”, it was HUGE because the game was close and it resulted in yet another field goal, which are momentum killers when you need a TD and are that close to scoring.
Goodson is looking like a better football player than McFadden right now. And we know what Reggie’s looking for.
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Ive watched each play 3 times today. How bout you?
I got no bone to pick with either player. No agenda. Just the truth. How bout you?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am
630
LOL! So true.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Peemour, when you get smashed on football you start talking about Romney or Gingrich. Did your mom hide your meds again?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
How many consecutive losses will it take for you to et on the FIRE KNAPP bandwagon? This is the question that every Knapp supporter should ask themselves. Will 3, 4, 5, perhaps 7 or 8 consecutive losses finally convince you? BTW, all the answers are right. It’s just a matter of degree on how hard core you are about Knapp and his ZBS bag of tricks. He was fired as OC here once before and it WILL come to pass once again. It’s just a matter of time. Too bad that he has to take the team down with him just to prove that he should be doing something else for a living.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Not going to happen.
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hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Rough them up like they said something bad about your family!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Anyone complaining about our interior line play isnt watching the game a second time for closer review.
THEY ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
LOL
You guys have fun with MR.
Rookies.
Im out.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
JB Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
How many consecutive losses will it take for you to et on the FIRE KNAPP bandwagon? This is the question that every Knapp supporter should ask themselves. Will 3, 4, 5, perhaps 7 or 8 consecutive losses finally convince you? BTW, all the answers are right. It’s just a matter of degree on how hard core you are about Knapp and his ZBS bag of tricks. He was fired as OC here once before and it WILL come to pass once again. It’s just a matter of time. Too bad that he has to take the team down with him just to prove that he should be doing something else for a living.
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AND WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING?
It certainly isnt football related. So STFU.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RIP Sabol!
Created the NFL highlight of my life. Those guys were awesome.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dakota, NFL Rewind, its $35 on NFL.com and you can watch every game for the last 4 years, broadcast version (with the announcer commentary) the short version (penalties, commercials all cut out) and coaches film. Its pretty cool, if you like to rewatch the game and look at more than just where the ball is going.
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Ive been watching that stuff religiously.
A lot of the revisionists here could use it. But they wont, they like their “beliefs” and they are sticking to them.
Is it for the year?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Jasmista, Jamsita, Jamista, you seem angrier than usual. I guess you saw the most recent polls and how your guy is circling the drain. Or did your blow up walk out on you again?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Believe me, Dmac and even Taiwan would have scored on that play.
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Being that Darren was a target on 7 passes and was credited with 3 drops, I am not so sure he would have even caught the ball, better yet score.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
What a year we have ahead of us when in week 2 people want Goodson to start over McFadden?
…. what’s next … Goethel over Condo?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Not going to happen.
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hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Rough them up like they said something bad about your family!!!
Maybe true, Mista, but wouldn’t it be nice for a change?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Jasmista, Jamsita, Jamista, you seem angrier than usual. I guess you saw the most recent polls and how your guy is circling the drain. Or did your blow up walk out on you again?
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I suppose you saw Mitt’s “47%” speech, wherein he stuck a whole shoe store in his mouth…
September 18th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dakota, NFL Rewind, its $35 on NFL.com and you can watch every game for the last 4 years, broadcast version (with the announcer commentary) the short version (penalties, commercials all cut out) and coaches film. Its pretty cool, if you like to rewatch the game and look at more than just where the ball is going.
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Ive been watching that stuff religiously.
A lot of the revisionists here could use it. But they wont, they like their “beliefs” and they are sticking to them.
Is it for the year?
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That’s the problem with Raider fan. They hate certain players, they don’t watch the game, and they don’t watch the tape. They just scream and yell. And being drunk, stupid and passed out in the parking lot is not watching the game, right Jamista?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Believe me, Dmac and even Taiwan would have scored on that play.
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Being that Darren was a target on 7 passes and was credited with 3 drops, I am not so sure he would have even caught the ball, better yet score.
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Ive been looking everywhere for a stat that shows team drop rankings.
I guarantee we are near the bottom of the league in dropped passes. I just cant find the hard evidence yet unfortunately.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
GET BENT Riff! You don’t run this board. If you don’t like what I have to say, don’t read it. You Internet tough guys crack me up. Time for your afternoon nap.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok, Bcz, Riff…is the $35 on NFL.Com for the year?
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dakota, NFL Rewind, its $35 on NFL.com and you can watch every game for the last 4 years, broadcast version (with the announcer commentary) the short version (penalties, commercials all cut out) and coaches film. Its pretty cool, if you like to rewatch the game and look at more than just where the ball is going.
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Ive been watching that stuff religiously.
A lot of the revisionists here could use it. But they wont, they like their “beliefs” and they are sticking to them.
Is it for the year?
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That’s the problem with Raider fan. They hate certain players, they don’t watch the game, and they don’t watch the tape. They just scream and yell. And being drunk, stupid and passed out in the parking lot is not watching the game, right Jamista?
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Bingo was his name-O
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok, Bcz, Riff…is the $35 on NFL.Com for the year?
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I paid $100 for the year.
Its more for all the games. I just got the Raiders.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Jasmista, Jamsita, Jamista, you seem angrier than usual. I guess you saw the most recent polls and how your guy is circling the drain. Or did your blow up walk out on you again?
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I suppose you saw Mitt’s “47%” speech, wherein he stuck a whole shoe store in his mouth…
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Personally I have not seen it, but I am just hoping America puts it’s collective shoe up Romney and the conservatives asses.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
JB Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
GET BENT Riff! You don’t run this board. If you don’t like what I have to say, don’t read it. You Internet tough guys crack me up. Time for your afternoon nap.
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Another happy customer.
You can always tell when I hit the truth. Just reminding these squids about how little they know about football is enough to get the funniest reactions.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
That’s the problem with Raider fan. They hate certain players, they don’t watch the game, and they don’t watch the tape. They just scream and yell. And being drunk, stupid and passed out in the parking lot is not watching the game, right Jamista?
True there are some, but I like to give all players a benefit of doubt until he does something that continually f’s the game up! So far, haven’t seen it yet, but, and I agree, I rarely have time to rewatch films. It depends if I remember to tape them, or “ahem” if we balck out, nothing I can do, hence my question about the price!
September 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider riff is a joke, thinks he is the leading expert in raider football. Sure start huff at cb, and all raider fans are dumb and drunks. I found out through connection she is knapp’s brother in law!
September 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
That’s the problem with Raider fan. They hate certain players, they don’t watch the game, and they don’t watch the tape. They just scream and yell. And being drunk, stupid and passed out in the parking lot is not watching the game, right Jamista?
True there are some, but I like to give all players a benefit of doubt until he does something that continually f’s the game up! So far, haven’t seen it yet, but, and I agree, I rarely have time to rewatch films. It depends if I remember to tape them, or “ahem” if we balck out, nothing I can do, hence my question about the price!
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Hwndr,
YOu dont have to watch the games over and over. Youre not one of the people who argues with the people here who actually do watch the games over and over.
Its the guys who refuse to re-watch, and yet argue with those whom do, who are the “typical Raider fan”.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok, Bcz, Riff…is the $35 on NFL.Com for the year?
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I paid $100 for the year.
Its more for all the games. I just got the Raiders.
Ok, so $100 is just to watch Raider games? Sorry bro, just asking…can’t really access anything from work
September 18th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
That’s the problem with Raider fan. They hate certain players, they don’t watch the game, and they don’t watch the tape. They just scream and yell. And being drunk, stupid and passed out in the parking lot is not watching the game, right Jamista?
True there are some, but I like to give all players a benefit of doubt until he does something that continually f’s the game up! So far, haven’t seen it yet, but, and I agree, I rarely have time to rewatch films. It depends if I remember to tape them, or “ahem” if we balck out, nothing I can do, hence my question about the price!
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Hwndr,
YOu dont have to watch the games over and over. Youre not one of the people who argues with the people here who actually do watch the games over and over.
Its the guys who refuse to re-watch, and yet argue with those whom do, who are the “typical Raider fan”.
True and thank you!
September 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok, Bcz, Riff…is the $35 on NFL.Com for the year?
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I paid $100 for the year.
Its more for all the games. I just got the Raiders.
Ok, so $100 is just to watch Raider games? Sorry bro, just asking…can’t really access anything from work
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I had to do it cause Im overseas. No other way to watch the game without pop-ups.
Plus, I like to watch them a few times over.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Ive been looking everywhere for a stat that shows team drop rankings.
I guarantee we are near the bottom of the league in dropped passes. I just cant find the hard evidence yet unfortunately.
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Not what you are looking for, but has some cool stats for 2012…
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2012
September 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
goodson vs DMAC is a new low in quality of debate. DMAC could be considered in a slump and no excuses for his dropped passes, but if I have to give someone a pass these last 2 games in our entire organization it would be him. It seems our OL is getting blown back and I havent seen Dmac miss a hole. Yes hes dropped a few passes and blocks. Agreed..but historically he does a good job picking up the blitz and he is an excellent receiver. maybe the focus should be on why the oline is non existent. it is scheme , execution , or effort. or maybe a combo of the 3.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
NFL rewind is only $34.99 for 1 team for the whole year or 19.99 for a month
September 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
goodson vs DMAC is a new low in quality of debate. DMAC could be considered in a slump and no excuses for his dropped passes, but if I have to give someone a pass these last 2 games in our entire organization it would be him. It seems our OL is getting blown back and I havent seen Dmac miss a hole. Yes hes dropped a few passes and blocks. Agreed..but historically he does a good job picking up the blitz and he is an excellent receiver. maybe the focus should be on why the oline is non existent. it is scheme , execution , or effort. or maybe a combo of the 3.
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Yep.
I think we are supposed to disregard the DMC vs Goodson debate. If I read some of the other posts correctly, Sully is just fishing for bait with that debate.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok, Bcz, Riff…is the $35 on NFL.Com for the year?
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I paid $100 for the year.
Its more for all the games. I just got the Raiders.
Ok, so $100 is just to watch Raider games? Sorry bro, just asking…can’t really access anything from work
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I had to do it cause Im overseas. No other way to watch the game without pop-ups.
Plus, I like to watch them a few times over.
That’s true, I forgot you are overseas…
September 18th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Go Raiders …let’s bring in every one for a try out ..cut the slackers
September 18th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Realtruraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
NFL rewind is only $34.99 for 1 team for the whole year or 19.99 for a month
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I see.
It must be cause Im watching the games live that they are so expensive.
I shoulda went the “Rewind” route.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I’m reading all these post saying fire Knapp fire DA fire RM they need to go lets get Hue back blah blah blah. The next guy it not the coaches it’s the OL fault it’s the DB fault its our LB’s fault blah blah blah. When you are at this high level of play it comes down to coaching your player and setting up a good game plan that’s what wins games. You look at New England when they have a player that gets to big for the team the cut him and plug in the next guy. It comes down to coaching and game planning at this level. You decide where the problem sits.
September 18th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
CODE BLACK
September 18th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
I don’t thinks there is any common football sense if one thinks Hue Jackson lost the team and he was a incompetent footall HC after one year. He was 8/8 his fisrt year at HC. He was 8/8 his first year his first year at OC. Yet, A minority of Raiders supporters would like to support a theory a first year HC coach must do much better to keep his job. where is the logic in that theory!!! Support that theory!!!!!
NFL HC coaches don’t live in a Harbaugh wonderland. He is a exception to the rule. Harbaugh also inherited a really good, hard nose players on DEFENSE, OFFENSE, and SPECIAL TEAMS.
I do not want the Raiders to fail because I wanted Hue Jackson to stay or to make a point about my view. I wanted the Raiders organization to make good choices for the best interest of the Raiders. My point is the choices they made at the time the Raiders had great chances of making the offense even more productive under the same scheme was junked. The time to reinforce a new defense under the same HC that produced one of the top offenses was junked for an unproven HC and scheme. Timing is as crucial as change!
Do I believe DA and Knapp are aweful coaches. No!!! Do I believe this was an aweful time to make a change from Hue Jackson to DA/Knapp. Yes, aweful, aweful aweful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…
I will Never support this decision but I will move on from here and support our new coaches. Oh, one last shout out on the same issue. Mark Davis your decision to make changes on you fathers first hand exchange to you SUCK BIG TIME!!!!
RAIDERS BE WITH YOU
September 18th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
CODE WACK
September 18th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Watching film together is cute, was it Finding Nemo 3D?
September 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
He did not get to my question, so let me make it clear where I stand. We have had 94 pass attempts and 30 rushing attempts in 2 games. How does the OC come up with this game plan when you have a top notch RUNNING BACK in Darren McFadden? How is DMC supposed to get in the flow of the game? This is outright stupidity that we are watching on offense. P.S. Richard Seymour is a CANCER!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
First time ever doing one of these. Here’s my opinion. Plain and simple, the players aren’t getting it done. I’m sure some of you already said this, but until the players decide to start playing with more effort and intensity,the frustration is gonna continue. See some of you Sunday…