Update: Raiders work out six players
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, September 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Update: The complete list of players who worked out today is as follows: T Patrick Brown, Central Florida, DB Darius Butler, UConn, DE Andre Carter, Cal, DB Cletis Gordon, Jackson State, DB Antwaun Molden, Eastern Kentucky, DB Kevin Thomas, USC.
While the players on Oakland’s roster are resting, head coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie are kicking the tires on a handful of players to see if they can add more talent to their 53-man roster in light of several injuries to key players.
The Raiders lost starting cornerbacks Ron Bartell (shoulder) and Shawntae Spencer (foot), wide receiver Jacoby Ford (foot) and right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) to injuries since the season started. Several other players are banged up.
As a result, the Raiders reportedly worked out cornerbacks Kevin Thomas and Antwaun Bolden and defensive end Andre Carter today. Carter was in for a second tryout.
The Raiders have not signed any of the players yet. However, it’s safe to say the Raiders will make a few roster moves between now and Sunday’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Another option is signing cornerback Chimdi Chekwa from the practice squad and throwing him into the jumbled mess at cornerback, where the projected starters are Joselio Hanson and Pat Lee as of now.
Chekwa started one game last season and showed some promise before hamstring and shoulder injuries shelved him for most of the season.
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September 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Next man up (and how).
September 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Yikes!
September 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Raider Sam….
I like Pryor and think he’s a good guy but were in the middle of a rebuild and Reggie is going to want his own QB.
September 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Draft Countdown has us taking Jarvis Jones of Georgia.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php
September 18th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Jarvis Jones would be a solid pick up
September 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
Sign that #Raiders run blocking struggling: McFadden getting contacted on avg .7 yds down field compared to 3.6 last year
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This from the NFL stat guy. But we dont need that stat to know everything is working fine, right ?
September 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Remeber when the raiders beat the eagles with JaMarcus?
I had the same feeling before the game I have now (blowout loss), but John Marshall put 8 on the line and stood up linemen and blitz McNabb all day…. the eagles said they were shocked and never seen that on film.
I really think thats the defenses best hope, some crazy blitz packages like falcons had last night.
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Yes, remember it well.
I gave the Raids absolutely no chance to win that game.
Still remember LMurphy’s great effort throwing 2 blocks on Miller’s 80 yard TD run.
Still remember JaMoron calling signals and having the ball snapped with 10 seconds still on the play clock when the Raids were just trying to close it out.
Seems pretty obvious we’re going to have to throw the kitchen sink at BRoth Sunday.
Seems equally obvious that he’s going to wiggle out of some sacks, extend the play anyway and torch our secondary.
But, you never know.
Any given Sunday.
September 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Don’t you just love talking draft after week 2 ?
Can we talk new OC while we’re at it ?
September 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Ya on that Sunday I remember we balled out. We also had ASO, Routt playing the slot , and CJ on the outside i believe at Corner.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Copy the Pittsburgh Steelers.
They have been good for decades.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The local media cork & mcdonald are completely enamored with palmer. In fact they have made several bold predictions about him being an instant, just add water, microwavable super star.
When asked about palmer cork pointed to his yardage totals, and 1 int. He completely glossed over the wild inaccuracy to wide open targets, the questionable decisions (palmer could easily have 3 pick but has been fortunate), or his utter lack of leadership.
further when presented with the idea that the tribune tried to sell that macfadden and palmer together were a “super duo”, at this point has been far from the truth it was simply ignored.
The bottom line is that even though media members should be impartial, these two are clearly fans of palmers. this is why their take on palmer at this point is 180 degrees different from most of the national media in terms of palmer’s performance, and where he falls in current qb rankings.
Corky also still thinks pryor will / should be moved to tight end, yet says he expects pryor to be used in “wildcat packages”. this to me shows that he is either behind the times or doesn not want to acknowledge the changing tide in football.
Today there is no wild cat, in fact teams that are on the cutting edge teams are taking real option qbs and letting them play option football. they marry the option to another base so called pro offense.
In fcat bringing in pryor would not make it a “wild cat” because wild cat is a player that is not a qb taking direct snaps. If pryor is in the game he is a qb.
furthermore I have a problem with trying to label pryor a wild cat because it insinuates that he is not a qb, and if he has any success this label can be used in luie of giving him credit for good solid qb play.
cork does not believe pryor will get ny starts if the raider go 0-5, I have a very hard time seeing this being true.
Cork may not be a fan but im sure D.A and Big mck were very impressed with the way pryor handled himself and improved over the course of the pre season.
local media was wrong about palmer, and him being a savior or the best qb we have had since gannon, and they are wrong about pryor.
Now I know why davis didnt give a rip about them or what they think.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Too bad we didn’t suck for Luck or RGIII last season!
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We’ll wind up with the nbr1 pick again without a clear cut franchise QB available.
Unfortunate too, not only bcz if there’s no Luck or RGIII we don’t secure a franchise QB, and the trade down that Reggie will make will be less lucrative.
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One we will need to find out if pryor can carry the mantle. second there is geno smith and ej manual both maybe on the board when we pick, as both have been erroneously ranked behind bray, wilson, and barkley…..yawn
September 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I talk draft all year. I spend at least over 300 hours a year researching draft prospects for this team. Funny thing is I always had an Idea of what Al would do but it will be a little bit more difficult to adapt to Reggie’s method. Out of my last Mock Draft the only person I had who Reggie Drafted was Miles Burris. I had Lucas Nix in the 7th but we got him as a free agent so score 1 for Reg
September 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Raiders dont have ASO, Routt or CJ anymore from that year.
You are gonna be playing with backups who are backups..at CB. Guys no other team wanted. Its gonna come down to how bad they want to win on SUN.
Its gonna tell me alot about this team going foward. Also gonna tell me how hard they are gonna play for ALLEN. Say what u want about Huey or Cable.. the team played hard for them.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Get TP some playing time, change of pace QB.
A smart coach finds ways to better the offense. I would slip TP on series here and there, just to shake up things. Also I would put Palmer in the no-huddle opening drive to gain momentum.
Then again, its Nap on offese, so expect another BS souting.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
hmmm so i see the rest of the world is FINALLY CATCHING UP WITH WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR 2 YEARS NOW,
GENO SMITH WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT HERE!!!!
DONT SLEEP ON EJ MANUAL EITHER
this is of course if pryor wouldnt work
September 18th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Geno Smith wil be better than Bray and Barkley
I personally like Tyler Wilson but i think Geno Smith would fit a west coast offense a little better. Not a fan of E.J Manuel
September 18th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
15.JT Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Get TP some playing time, change of pace QB.
A smart coach finds ways to better the offense. I would slip TP on series here and there, just to shake up things. Also I would put Palmer in the no-huddle opening drive to gain momentum.
Then again, its Nap on offese, so expect another BS souting.
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No Huddle offense, Pryor playing receiver in 3 receiver set, No Huddle to wildcat…Wouldn’t mind seeing Pryor throw a little in the wildcat.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
I’m up for Chekwa off the practice squad.
How about bringing back Lito?!? Whoaooooaooooo, 3 for the money…
September 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Mistic what are your thoughts on Tajh Boyd? He’s probably my 1 of my favorite QB’s coming out of the draft
September 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
you cant play pryor yet no matter how bad it gets over the next 3 weeks. there is a real danger of creating a major locker room problem.
lets say the offense continues to be bland and ineffective, then you bring in pryor for a couple of plays that produce. well you will have fans players and media saying that pryor should get more time, yet you havent committed to pulling the plug on palmer yet.
You could create an environment where the calls for the back up become a huge distraction, like we saw wiith tebow and orton.
Palmer keeps the offenses stuck in neutral and pryor makes some explosive or exciting plays you will have a controversy.
it would make more sense to wait until we are clealry out of it and only competing for a high draft pick. This way no one on the team will have to choose and things are clear cut evaluation. this also saves the front office from any blow back if pryor fails, they can say they needed to evaluate his game and being out of it gives them an early opportunity to do so.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Mike Goodson: He’s the new Darren McFadden. Until DMC can get loose for more than 1.8 ypc, I would let Goodson run it all day.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Mistic if you think Palmer is the problem then, well I guess you have to have some credibility to lose it….
September 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
BFD!!!!
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While the players on Oakland’s roster are resting, head coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie are kicking the tires on a handful of players to see if they can add more talent to their 53-man roster in light of several injuries to key players.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Draft talk in Spetember? This is sooooooo 2006.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Palmer has missed a few throws but he hasn’t lost either of the two games I saw….
in fact with McFadden shut down TOTALLY, I think Palmer’s doing al’ight
September 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Anyone else here see a HUGE but subtle change in DMac?
Guy is not finishing runs, he’s running out of bounds…
September 18th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Waddup Nation
Rack ‘em
September 18th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Raiders are near or at the bottom on several power rankings.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Mistic what are your thoughts on Tajh Boyd? He’s probably my 1 of my favorite QB’s coming out of the draft
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i like Tajh a lot, he is an under classman so he still has time to clean up a couple of areas in his game that concern me. He at times can be very streaky ( think mcnabb) he can also be a bit impatient and force throws if the offense is being stifled.
he has a huge arm, and clearly can handle a spread offense with motions and line calls and audibles. i would like to see him be a bit more judicious with decision making.
manual though i think is a victim of florida state, I dont think they do a very good job of developing the qb’s there. Ponder was a decent college player but didnt really seem to get better while there. he has shown major improvement in the pro game though.
Florida state reminds me of the jim tressel ohio state teams, they dont develop qbs, they just throw them out there and let the athleticism win. manual will improve with better coaching, like ponder has.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Bottom line is this team needs leadership right now? What guy on defense is gonna step up and get guys motivated and fired up??? I dont see seymour doing it anymore.. he is more a hey do it this way.
Kelly? nah.. the guy is usally whining and knows what to do post game locker room gane.
WHICH GUY on offense is gonna step up and make a damn play? I saw Ausberry last week fightin.. saw Wheeler on defense hustling ..laying the wood. But one or two guys cant do it alone. I dont care if its a rookie. Someone has to get this damn team fired up.
Dont expect palmer either. I saw pryor in the preseason with some fire and desire.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JLofty Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Anyone else here see a HUGE but subtle change in DMac?
Guy is not finishing runs, he’s running out of bounds…
———- blocking is awful … average 1st contact .7 yard from scrimmage, last year … 3.6 yds from scrimmage.
Nobody can do anything with that.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Think we see the wildcat this week with Pryor?
Listening to sports talk Radio, they talked that the Jets should have played Tebow more against the Steelers to change things up and throw the defense off balance.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Yup more Draft talk….I wish we had a 2nd round pick but Im so happy we have a 1st…. If we have a top3 pick(Not saying we will). I’ll be flying to New York for the draft
September 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Dmac is not finishing runs because there is nothing to finish off. He is usually behind scrimmage or 2 yards upfield as opposed to rippin off a 20 yard run
September 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Mistic, you know I’m not a Palmer guy. Never thought he was elite and I think he’s pretty much done. At the very least, his best days are behind him and I don’t think he’s a guy you want to build around. Definitely not long term.
Frankly, if the Raids wind up winning 2 games and he gets injured – I think he’s just going to call it quits anyway.
Having said that, you really need to get off his case.
He’s the least of our problems right now.
I’m not against TP getting plenty of playing time, but he’s clearly not ready.
If CP goes down, then yes, you roll with TP and you do not waste a single snap on Matt Lice.
Even if CP doesn’t go down, once we’re something like 2-8, I have no problems starting TP the rest of the way.
Raids have a huge decision to make after this season is done.
If it doesn’t look like TP can be The Man down the line then we’ve got to look at drafting a franchise QB.
But if there’s no Luck or RGIII there, then we’ve got to look at trading down and filling the shtload of holes we have virtually everywhere else.
In the meantime, give us a break with the Palmer bashing. Please.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
15.JT Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Get TP some playing time, change of pace QB.
A smart coach finds ways to better the offense. I would slip TP on series here and there, just to shake up things. Also I would put Palmer in the no-huddle opening drive to gain momentum.
Then again, its Nap on offese, so expect another BS souting.
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No Huddle offense, Pryor playing receiver in 3 receiver set, No Huddle to wildcat…Wouldn’t mind seeing Pryor throw a little in the wildcat.
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sigh …… for the love of god please stop saying pryor should play “wild cat”!!!!
wild cat is a non qb playing option football, a receiver or rb most times.
pryor is a qb, period. If pryor is in the shotgun or taking snaps it is simply called playing qb
September 18th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Where are our team leaders? Guys with confidence? saying enough is enough.
We need to do what tebow did when the broncos where 1-4 last year and stuck in the stand.
Can pryor rise to the occasion and start ballin? So far he has the only one looking comfortable on roll outs
September 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
JLofty Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Mistic if you think Palmer is the problem then, well I guess you have to have some credibility to lose it….
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the problem? no
a problem? yes….and a major one at that
September 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
You are all missing the point, including Corky. It’s not the GM, HC, OC, DC or any of these ridiculous buffoons that are so-called “players.”
It’s Davis family management of the club. After 10 yrs of dementia led football by AD (BFH), Mark, his freakish spawn, is even worse.
Davis’ don’t own the club, the partnership does.
Get rid of Davis’, Mark and his Mother, now!!
Fire em all and wash away the taint.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Guys let me know when u can think of a few players on this team saying enough is enough?
I know its pretty hard lol
Huff? LOL, Branch? mmm he is always looking confused like wtf
September 18th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I have to agree with Jlofty here:
“Mistic if you think Palmer is the problem then, well I guess you have to have some credibility to lose it….”
Palmer is not the problem. Its like your car ran out of gas but you are asking for a just start thinking its your battery.
You are so far off base here that its almost funny. Putting in a young QB at this point with no protection and lack of running game is only going to ruin the kid.
The O-Line needs to fix the problems and we need to be able to establish a running game before inserting a rookie QB be real here.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
In the last pre-season game TP looked no better than CP or Lienart, once both lines broke down, and TP was on his own.
Nothing will change if they put in TP.
Get rid of the Davis’, period. That is the solution.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
You are all missing the point, including Corky. It’s not the GM, HC, OC, DC or any of these ridiculous buffoons that are so-called “players.”
It’s Davis family management of the club. After 10 yrs of dementia led football by AD (BFH), Mark, his freakish spawn, is even worse.
Davis’ don’t own the club, the partnership does.
Get rid of Davis’, Mark and his Mother, now!!
Fire em all and wash away the taint.
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We’ve been all through this.
The partnership agreement is iron-clad, and specifically says that ONLY general partners have any say in operations.
There is currently only one general parter: Carole Davis, who has apparently proxied her interest in the club to Mark.
Everybody else is a limited partner, has no say over anything, and the courts have upheld this arrangement.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Though MM34 would get a bit more burn after an encouraging camp and pre season.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
I have a favor to ask to the East Bay locals out there, on behave of the NATION.
If, one of you should see Knapp out and about. Could you please break his thumbs for us? So that he has difficulty holding his lame play call cards, and wiping his backside..
And, if it is not to much to ask, could you make it look like an “accident”. Thanks, in advance…..
September 18th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JLofty Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Anyone else here see a HUGE but subtle change in DMac?
Guy is not finishing runs, he’s running out of bounds…
———- blocking is awful … average 1st contact .7 yard from scrimmage, last year … 3.6 yds from scrimmage.
Nobody can do anything with that.
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i would advise people to watch more football and study schemes.
There is a very simple reason dmac is struggling.
The offense is built on the stretch run, o line and back run parallel to the line and the back finds the seams and cuts up field. Penetration by the defense kills this run scheme, and that is why dmac is going nowhere too much penetration from the d line.
why is the dline able to penetrate so easily/ There is no counter action for the stretch run in our offense. The stretch run needs a counter action to work, for example fake the stretch and let palmer boot leg in the opposite direction. this slows down the flow of the defense so they cant sell out 1o0% to the run.
dont look now but we dont have qb that cant fake the stretch and boot leg, so the defense sees the o line turn to run and they just ignore the qb altogether and key on dmac.
This will not change unless plamer magically learns to fake the stretch and boot or knapp uses something like a jet sweep or ghost reverse motion to slow down the pursuit.
basic football
September 18th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Pittsburgh is tops in Super Bowl wins because they NEVER changed Head Coaches and stuck with the same philosophy. Al Davis could have been tops if he didn’t hire/fire on a yearly basis (plus trade a coach that was probably destined to win 2 or 3 for us).
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
dude, ALL U EVER TALK ABOUT IS BLACK QUARTERBACKS! and why they are not allowed to succeed due to racism and why they are ALWAYS better than ANY white quarterback. u have made urself into a punchline. are u really that fuking blind? a LOT of black qb’s SUCK MAJOR DICK! in now conceivable way understood by anyone with actual football knowledge is pryor ready to play as a starting qb in the nfl, and saying he’s better right now than palmer is hilariously deranged.
and guess what? palmer is playing very well. tons of yardage and only one pick, despite throwing from his back foot constantly due to pressure. 3rd most yards in the nfl! get a clue.
and this comes from someone who thinks pryor might actually have a chance at being a very good qb.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
I have a favor to ask to the East Bay locals out there, on behave of the NATION.
If, one of you should see Knapp out and about. Could you please…
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You want to be careful about that kind of thing. That’s Conspiracy to Commit Assault, and no doubt would get you a cell with Sandusky.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Actually RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit DMac has a number of run after the catches downfield and looks to me distictly albeit subtly different than 2011 pre-injury.
I just can’t tell if it’s cuz he’s scared of gettin hurt, or some kind of contract thing, or if he’s sort of pouting in his own way….
September 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
it’s a fuking joke for anyone to say palmer is part of the problem with this team. a fuking joke. anyone who says that can safely be ignored on all football-related topics, because they clearly don’t have any idea how the game is played or any experience in the game. just stupidity.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@Mistic1
C’Mon Mistic, you know what I meant. Packages for Pryor for Sunday. Tebow is a “QB” and everyone refers to the Jets packages as the Wildcat.
Wasn’t Brad Smith a QB? When Brad Smith ran that package it was called the Wildcat.
Pat White was a QB and the Dolphins referred to it as the wildcat.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
You mean Antwaun Molden
September 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012/08/03/message-sent-to-colts-cant-play-youre-gone/
An article about Kevin Thomas which also includes a picture of what will happen in a few weeks when we play Atlanta. I guess we should move up Chekwa as long as he doesn’t play stupid like he did during the preseason.
I guess they should sign Andre Carter if he is healthy to provide a pass rush on 3rd downs passing situations.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
47 & 48. Right on
September 18th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I have to agree with Jlofty here:
“Mistic if you think Palmer is the problem then, well I guess you have to have some credibility to lose it….”
Palmer is not the problem. Its like your car ran out of gas but you are asking for a just start thinking its your battery.
You are so far off base here that its almost funny. Putting in a young QB at this point with no protection and lack of running game is only going to ruin the kid.
The O-Line needs to fix the problems and we need to be able to establish a running game before inserting a rookie QB be real here.
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what are you talking about bra, who said anything about playing pryor now? I said he shouldnt play until we are in 1-6, 2-7 range, or second half of the year while we are clearly out of contention
September 18th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Does Reggie care having his piece of s-h-i-t team being in last place power rankings.
I bet back in GB they are talking about his GM work…
September 18th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
You are all missing the point, including Corky. It’s not the GM, HC, OC, DC or any of these ridiculous buffoons that are so-called “players.”
It’s Davis family management of the club. After 10 yrs of dementia led football by AD (BFH), Mark, his freakish spawn, is even worse.
Davis’ don’t own the club, the partnership does.
Get rid of Davis’, Mark and his Mother, now!!
Fire em all and wash away the taint.
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We’ve been all through this.
The partnership agreement is iron-clad, and specifically says that ONLY general partners have any say in operations.
There is currently only one general parter: Carole Davis, who has apparently proxied her interest in the club to Mark.
Everybody else is a limited partner, has no say over anything, and the courts have upheld this arrangement.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Of course you are wrong Duck. We all know that the general partner in a limited partnership holds exclusive management power: that is a given.
I don’t have the time or inclination here, but please google “oppression of limited partners by general partner.”
It is a different legal issue which was not decided 20 yrs ago. No majority interest holder can commit intentional or negligent acts that damage minority shareholders, limited partners etc.
Read some cases which have defined oppression by majority interest holder in an entity. Most likely if the limited partners mounted such an action they would be successful.
Do you think the law actually allows the managing partner to fail, with that failure falling upon the shoulders of the minority, ad infinitum without remedy ???
September 18th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
@51
Hes already said multiple times he is not scared of getting hurt,
And when has Mcfadden ever had a bad attitude or pouted? ever?
I think its just playing smart, whats to win 2 more yards?
hes already got the first down, if he was short of the first down he would drop the shoulder no doubt.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
hey mistic, it called basic reading. I didn’t comment on why DMac is struggling. The OLine play (or scheme or gameplan, or play calling whatever fits your agenda) has been awful. No $hit.
In 2011 Dmac was CRUSHING people at the end of his runs (whether run from behind los, or a catch, whatever).
In 2012 DMac has run out of bounds or dropped to the ground almost every time.
I think it’s curious.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@Mistic1
C’Mon Mistic, you know what I meant. Packages for Pryor for Sunday. Tebow is a “QB” and everyone refers to the Jets packages as the Wildcat.
Wasn’t Brad Smith a QB? When Brad Smith ran that package it was called the Wildcat.
Pat White was a QB and the Dolphins referred to it as the wildcat.
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smith was drafted and forced to move positions to wr.
pat white ran the “wild pat” but again it is a misnomer
It is a lazy way for people to describe option qb’s today while slickly implying that they are not qb’s at all.
more code language, like “he is an athlete playing qb”
if you are a qb by trade than it technically is not a wild cat, it would simply be called shotgun option
September 18th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
By the time we get right in knapps offense the season will be lost.. worst offseason move… and shït on hoffman
September 18th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RaiderDuck….
Not, if he “accidently” trips over a sidewalk crack, or tree root…lol..
September 18th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Yeah I can see that maybe its a longevity thing Blackmamba. And I don’t judge him if that is his plan.
Just an observation….
September 18th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Mike Goodson: He’s the new Darren McFadden. Until DMC can get loose for more than 1.8 ypc, I would let Goodson run it all day.
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My feelings exactly. McFadden isn’t a fit for the ZBS? OK, sit him and find some one else who is.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
no i appreciate the observation @jlofty just thought id throw my 2cents in.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
“I would let Goodson run it all day.”
A fine plan until he coughs it up on the third run from scrimmage….
September 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Whats goodsons ypc? Carry not catch
September 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
I enjoyed watching McFadden run over guys last year.
I want more of that….
September 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
JLofty Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Anyone else here see a HUGE but subtle change in DMac?
Guy is not finishing runs, he’s running out of bounds…
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I think DMac is following orders from DA, and the Gut….
September 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Matt Schaub isn’t exactly fleet-of-foot. Yet the Texans can run the ZBS with him just fine.
Why?
Talent at O-line, Andre Johnson, and better play-calling.
The Texans had Ron Dayne, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton, Domanick Williams, and Adrian Foster (undrafted) all put up solid or 1,000 yard seasons.
It can work. Just not with Knapp running it.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Of course you are wrong Duck. We all know that the general partner in a limited partnership holds exclusive management power: that is a given.
I don’t have the time or inclination here, but please google “oppression of limited partners by general partner.”
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Google “McGah v Davis,” particularly where McGah’s descendants were specifically told they didn’t have standing to oust Davis.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
If McFadden is our most talented offensive player … why play Goodson, a scheme fit? Are you serious?
THE BLAME IS ON THE O-LINE … nobody likes the ZBS, but if the line executed their blocks, we wouldn’t be complaining, run DMC would be rolling off good gains and helping set-up the deep ball and screen game and reece in flats.
suck it.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
McFadden is right up there with the Brandon Bolden’s and Jonny White’s of the league.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Whats goodsons ypc? Carry not catch
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Slightly better than McFadden. But I think he had a couple of big losses that taint his ypc stat.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
SIT DMAC??
GOODSON?????
MADNESS HAS STRUCK..
Taiwan and Goodson are clumsy an dumb like a hand with five thumbs.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
So I was in the Alaska wilderness for opening night and watched the Charger game on DVR Saturday and of course the Dolphin debacle Sunday. Talk about a bad weekend…
But Shonasty didn’t look too good in the SD game, made some plays in Mia, but he doesn’t look like the terror unleashed I was hoping for in 2012.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
How come none of you homo`s are barking for Pryor?…why wait til the team is 0-11?…do it now I say.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Everyone stop judging the whole season.
The defense has created 0 turnovers …. say they force 2-3 on Sunday and the run game gets better.
Then were in this game.
RAIDER NATION.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Goodson rushed for a 4.4 ypc average in his one starter season.
McFadden averaged 5.2 and 5.4 in his two seasons under Hue.
Michael Bush averaged 3.8 for us last year, and 4.1 the year before.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
good point paradise,
we must be the only team that cant make special team or defensive plays and game changers..
September 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Watching Pryor start would be the same “joyful experience” that the Dolphins had watching Pat White start, or the Vikings had watching Joe Webb start.
Heck, you saw how he looked 2 out of 3 pre-season games. Fugly.
Either way, Barf for Barkley has begun, as we TOLD YOU weeks ago.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Palmer is a washed up loser that publicly quit on his team, and league,..Leinert is an LA frat boy that PREFERS to kick it on the sidelines with that earpiece in his head, keeping uniform clean…Pryor now, why not seasons already over. Youre very welcome.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Barkely is a 3rd round talent QB.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Bring in TP I say too, but wait till its 0-4, at the bye. That gives him 2 weeks to get ready.
No level headed fan will follow the raiders at 0-4 with Palmer and that BS oline. It would be crazy and retarded. Theres much better things to do on sunday.
Nap better leave Oakland at the bye.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Palmer is a washed up loser that publicly quit on his team, and league,..Leinert is an LA frat boy that PREFERS to kick it on the sidelines with that earpiece in his head, keeping uniform clean…Pryor now, why not seasons already over. Youre very welcome.
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I still say we should give them until the bye to show some life. If no joy by then, THAT’S when we do the Fire Sale/Youth Movement thing.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Preseason?…Pryor looked a heck of alot better in preseason then Palmer,..thats for sure,..and frat boy couldnt go more then his usal one snap or so. Pryor now.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
good point paradise,
we must be the only team that cant make special team or defensive plays and game changers..
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Thanks.
Were due for a couple fumbles/breaks …. Big Ben has a couple games a year where he struggles against poor teams (browns) … he is expected his wife to give birth and is def laughing at oaklands game film ….
If the guys rally and start making plays it could start an avalanche of confidence.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Knapp needs to get creative with the misdirection. The stretch is a disaster right now.. maybe fake it and pass the other way to reece..
September 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
F what you say Daffy,…F the bye,..you wanna start Pryor in Atlanta?…do it now.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Matt Schaub isn’t exactly fleet-of-foot. Yet the Texans can run the ZBS with him just fine.
Why?
Talent at O-line, Andre Johnson, and better play-calling.
The Texans had Ron Dayne, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton, Domanick Williams, and Adrian Foster (undrafted) all put up solid or 1,000 yard seasons.
It can work. Just not with Knapp running it.
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They have also been running that offensive system for 7 years. Not 8 quarters.
September 18th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Why dont Nap call this play I saw Atlanta run:
Shotgun formation, fake draw play, boot to right, come back on screen pass to left.
Thats misdirection, but Nap is to retarded to see that
September 18th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Man, was I ON POINT or what?
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I just don’t freak out in here because I take the time to be honest about the team, not talk playoffs every year when we’re paper-thin at LB, RB, CB, and OL.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Seymour,
so how long had the Texans been running that system 8 YEARS AGO WHEN DOMANICK WILLIAMS WAS CHURNING OUT 1,000 YARD SEASONS?
Oh.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
89.raiderinparadise Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
good point paradise,
we must be the only team that cant make special team or defensive plays and game changers..
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Thanks.
Were due for a couple fumbles/breaks …. Big Ben has a couple games a year where he struggles against poor teams (browns) … he is expected his wife to give birth and is def laughing at oaklands game film ….
If the guys rally and start making plays it could start an avalanche of confidence.
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A pick 6 too change momentum, big 55 rumbling one in hahaha
Ha i can see big ben laughing too,
kill him !!!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Nick Guess waived. Wiz now listed as the backup snapper.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
A`s bout to begin final roadie,..Tigers, Yanks then Texas,…wow,…see how it shakes out…will be exciting.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Thats what i loved about hue. The power and misdirection.. the wco does move the chains but, knapps gonna take forever to coach em up. Wish hue was oc.. wish hoffman decided to become an astronaught..
September 18th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
I hope Harrison plays Sunday, someone needs to take out Palmer for the year.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
i used to say CP>JC but now…..
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@blackmamba
55? pick 6? the only pick 6 McClain ever had is where he decides to unload his six shooter.
I got Wheeler for either a sack fumble or pick.
I also got Branch intercepting a deep ball thats tipped.
WHY NOTTTT!!!???? HAHHAHAAH
raiiiiiiiiiiiidersssssssss
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Yo, gettin’ hella high here at the Beeeech Pad on Venice Beach skunk weed
Anyone hear from ol KrappyRat after his trip to Angel’s Camp? Old fool probably fell asleep in his jammies before they even left and KrappyWife just dumped him in the kiddie pool
Word, going to lay down some hot hip hot tracks pretty soon, right after I squeeze out this sweet duece
DEL TACO #3 COMBO IN THE HIZZY
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
About the time Oakland kicks off Sunday the scoreboard will show the Niner score in Minnesota,… 44-3,..pressure will be on the Raiders,…but will still go down without swinging,..48-0. Im real.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Hope sey punches ben in his mouth during the coin flip.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Hope sey punches ben in his mouth during the coin flip.
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Cork thinks he’ll get ejected this Sunday anyway. Why not make a splash?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Quick question.
Game time.
Dropped ball.
Player gets flag for late hit.
WHO’S IN CHARGE RIGHT NOW??
see?
Not who’s supposed to be in charge, but in your mind, right then, who did you feel would step up and take charge?
Why do I not see DA in that position?
DA looks lost on the sideline. Shows little to no emotion. In the PC he comes across as meek, and quite honestly, weak.
Not the HC we needed at this stage.
Ddn’t DA get a 5 year deal?
DA actually makes Shell look alive, on the sideline. At least Shell made the motion of writin something on his clipboard.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Rookie coach Dennis Allen is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole by trying to make this group of offensive linemen play the zone blocking scheme. These are the same linemen from last year that played in the power blocking scheme and they did well. Veteran coach Mike Shanahan took RG3 and incorprated the Baylor offense that RG3 ran in college which was a smart move and you see the results. Thats why coaches need to look at their roster and play to the strength of their players and not try to fit them into what they want.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Old fool Kell,..hey lay off today, he had an ambarrassing morning,…he took an Ipad to the Geek Squad that someone gave him, poor old fool couldnt figure it out,..he asked the Geeks wheres the knobs on this cotton pickin thing?…Geeks had to inform him that no, its not an Etcha Sketch. Poor old dummy.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
If McFadden is running out of bounds, it’s because someone told him to. But I do think that injury to his ankle made him lose some of his power in his legs. It might take him a little while to build his legs back up to where they were before.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I thought Amy moved across the Bay.
Don’t you swing from York’s sack now?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
There you are! Hanging out with that dude Amy again. Everyone those two are gay! I know.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Hope sey punches ben in his mouth during the coin flip.
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That would be sweet.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Amy hangs out in dyke bars in dogpatch. He can’t find a friend.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Everyone on Pitt o-line remembers that shot Seymour took on Ben.
Im sure there will be A LOT of talking ealry-on.
Desmond Bryant looks better than Seymour by a mile, but Seymours manners could cost him his job when he throws a cheap shot and gets ejected/suspended/fined.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
silver lining:
DHB is improved
Moore is Moore
DMAC is a gamer
CP isn’t throwing picks
Offense is moving the ball
Myers/Ausberry doing enough
Reece is a threat
Streter and Criner nice additions
Shaughnessey Houston and Bryant keep getting better
wheeler and burris are solid
September 18th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Venice beach? suuuurrrre. How’s about Anton’s couch. That’s where you’ve been.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
102.raiderinparadise Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@blackmamba
55? pick 6? the only pick 6 McClain ever had is where he decides to unload his six shooter.
I got Wheeler for either a sack fumble or pick.
I also got Branch intercepting a deep ball thats tipped.
WHY NOTTTT!!!???? HAHHAHAAH
raiiiiiiiiiiiidersssssssss
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HAHAHA yeah the 55 call was outlandish to say the least, im rooting for wheeler to come up big also
Need to see some more hands on the QB too, where is Lamar been.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Alex7, Kool Kell, and RaidersOne = bloggers of the month:
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
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Kool Kell:
I second that motion.
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RaidersOne:
I 3rd it.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Oh you guys upset about whats happnin in SF are ya?…get used to it,..all the way to their superbowl parade…fact is they will contend for the superbowl every year for the next five at least,..while the Raiders try and figure out a way to win a game. Truth, it always hurts.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Rookie coach Dennis Allen is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole by trying to make this group of offensive linemen play the zone blocking scheme. These are the same linemen from last year that played in the power blocking scheme and they did well. Veteran coach Mike Shanahan took RG3 and incorprated the Baylor offense that RG3 ran in college which was a smart move and you see the results. Thats why coaches need to look at their roster and play to the strength of their players and not try to fit them into what they want.
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While Shanahan certainly used the Baylor offense and suited that to Griffin, remember no one saw that coming. Defenses are starting to catch up to what they are doing over there. Shanahan also runs the zone scheme.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
No one is upset what is happening in san francisco. We know how you love to suck it up amy. You go girl!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Norco your best line ever is telling poor ol KrappyRat to go fire up his Googlie Machine
Any luck convincing Brian the Genital that the Raiders are moving back to LA?
I’ve already got my box reserved at Farmer’s Field, enough room for at least 15 wasted Spearmint Rhino strippers, holla
September 18th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Barkley is below average…by the time the draft rolls around he will be on Mels 3rd round talent level. Book that child. Raiders with the top pick better take the best defensive tackle.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
lol @ Seymour
NO COACH saw it coming? NO COACH said “hmm, I’m guessing they drafted RGIII and will likely use similar plays to what he used in Baylor?”
lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
silver lining:
DHB is improved
Moore is Moore
DMAC is a gamer
CP isn’t throwing picks
Offense is moving the ball
Myers/Ausberry doing enough
Reece is a threat
Streter and Criner nice additions
Shaughnessey Houston and Bryant keep getting better
wheeler and burris are solid
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Valid points ……….. only problem is the schedule, we need to play a really good game to beat pitt.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I’d like to have 2 Sunday’s in a row where we come in here and talk about how we kicked the crap out of a couple of teams!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
you mean male strippers right beeechy? Come back home to daddy.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Seymour
go back to telling us how the Falcons, 49ers, Ravens, and Chargers are also paper-thin at positions JUST LIKE US.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Soooo, watched a video yesterday and no practice today!! WOW! Everything must be fixed! WOW!REALLY??
September 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Alex you are embarrassing yourself. As usual.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
dude, ALL U EVER TALK ABOUT IS BLACK QUARTERBACKS! and why they are not allowed to succeed due to racism and why they are ALWAYS better than ANY white quarterback. u have made urself into a punchline. are u really that fuking blind? a LOT of black qb’s SUCK MAJOR DICK! in now conceivable way understood by anyone with actual football knowledge is pryor ready to play as a starting qb in the nfl, and saying he’s better right now than palmer is hilariously deranged.
and guess what? palmer is playing very well. tons of yardage and only one pick, despite throwing from his back foot constantly due to pressure. 3rd most yards in the nfl! get a clue.
and this comes from someone who thinks pryor might actually have a chance at being a very good qb.
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1. i have made no claims about black qb “always’ any thing
2. never said black qb’s are better than white that is your own insecurity coring your perception of what i have written (subconscious fear of genetic annihilation )
3. never said any where stated that pryor should play now
4. i have given palmer his due for playing better than he ever has as a raider but acknowledge that it isnt good enough based on our offenese and that he is an ill suited hold over now on notice as a stop gap
5. palmer isnt black and i talk a lot about him
6. wtf are you talking about? oh right you have no clue
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
lol @ Seymour
NO COACH saw it coming? NO COACH said “hmm, I’m guessing they drafted RGIII and will likely use similar plays to what he used in Baylor?”
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Mike Shanahan is going to use Baylor plays? Yeah, I am sure everyone saw that coming. That was right after he started using Stanford plays with Elway.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Come on Seymour
Opposing NFL coaches were watching RUTGERS GAMES to figure out what the Bucs might do.
But no one watched Baylor’s offense to prepare for RGIII.
LOL
September 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@blackmamba
Houston is wierd, super talented but never makes big plays/dissapears …. i follow him on twitter, he thinks he is like a wolf or something ???….. then he bleached his front hair ….. idk wtf anymore.
all these scrubs need to play with a voilent streak at home.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Rookie coach Dennis Allen is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole by trying to make this group of offensive linemen play the zone blocking scheme. These are the same linemen from last year that played in the power blocking scheme and they did well. Veteran coach Mike Shanahan took RG3 and incorprated the Baylor offense that RG3 ran in college which was a smart move and you see the results. Thats why coaches need to look at their roster and play to the strength of their players and not try to fit them into what they want.
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While Shanahan certainly used the Baylor offense and suited that to Griffin, remember no one saw that coming. Defenses are starting to catch up to what they are doing over there. Shanahan also runs the zone scheme.
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All I am trying to say is play to the strength of your roster.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Barkley is below average…by the time the draft rolls around he will be on Mels 3rd round talent level. Book that child. Raiders with the top pick better take the best defensive tackle.
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We won’t have the top pick. John Jenkins is a 358-lb NT, and he’d be good with our mid-to-low first rounder.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Alex7, Kool Kell, and RaidersOne = bloggers of the month:
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kool Kell:
I second that motion.
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RaidersOne:
I 3rd it.
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Troll, I Like to speak for myself!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
But, hey Alex maybe Kaepernick is the next Tom Brady.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Fellas! I couldn’t catch the Miami game. Give me the skinny.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Seymour is CRACKING:
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
While Shanahan certainly used the Baylor offense and suited that to Griffin,…
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm Mike Shanahan is going to use Baylor plays?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
If you ask me, I would rather play with Mike Mitchell at FS and Branch at SS …. 2 hitters/tacklers that you can blitz with ….
Why not, its not like teams are trying to throw over the top of us? They are throwing 8 yards outs and slants.
bring the pain.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Oh you guys upset about whats happnin in SF are ya?…get used to it,..all the way to their superbowl parade…fact is they will contend for the superbowl every year for the next five at least,..while the Raiders try and figure out a way to win a game. Truth, it always hurts.
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not a lot of harbaughs out there, so 49ers got lucky. raiders were courting him, but he did not want anything to do with AD, which he respected.
I agree with you, 49ers are a model of how a modern NFL should be built.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
We LOST
September 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Old Kell,..shouldnt you be at the barber shop?..wowing those old timers with your new Ipad?…its cool old dude, they wont know its really an etcha sketch. Word.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Seymour, 5 MINUTES!
How do you contradict yourself in 5 minutes?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
While Shanahan certainly used the Baylor offense and suited that to Griffin,…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm Mike Shanahan is going to use Baylor plays?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
All I am trying to say is play to the strength of your roster.
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What I said yesterday is no new GM, or new staff is going to come in, and implement the old orders systems and try to do it the way the old order did. Ain’t gonna happen. And there are reasons for it: lst, if the old order systems were so good, why did they get replaced? So, what you are going to have is new systems, new players.
The problem that we have here is McKenzie came in with no draft picks, no cap room and no money. So they instituted their systems with as many of the old orders players as they could stomach.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Same 2yd passes and 1yd runs
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Uh oh, old fool KrappyRat just stumbled onto the blog after his late afternoon nap
Old Troll what time are you chauffeuring KrappyWife home from work?
Better fire up the Oldsmobile, you know the old bag likes snappy service
WRECKS N EFFECT
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
What Seymour saying is that:
When Gruden went to the Bucs, he scrapped their D AND their O.
Wait, no, he saw the D was fine and just fixed the O.
Not sure what Seymour is saying.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
We start 0-5 and then finish 10-6. Think about it. Issues fixed by then. A couple of winnable games take us on a hot streak with one loss in a close one with Baltimore. Totally possible.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
JLofty Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
hey mistic, it called basic reading. I didn’t comment on why DMac is struggling. The OLine play (or scheme or gameplan, or play calling whatever fits your agenda) has been awful. No $hit.
In 2011 Dmac was CRUSHING people at the end of his runs (whether run from behind los, or a catch, whatever).
In 2012 DMac has run out of bounds or dropped to the ground almost every time.
I think it’s curious.
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It is not curious. He is playing not to get hurt. He was on NFL network before the season began. They asked him what his priority was for the season and he said “to not get hurt.”
Before the 2011 season he said he had a lot of goals that he would not discuss. He played with reckless abondon in 2010 and 2011. He got hurt both years and it looks as if he has been gun-shy about making people pay for trying to tackle him.
Other then the pass that almost scored against SD, I do not recall him breaking a tackle or even going into a tackle to try and hurt someone.
On the flip side though… he did have holes to run through in 2010 and 2011. This year’s stupid schemes have the backfield littered with defenders.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Seymour, 5 MINUTES!
How do you contradict yourself in 5 minutes?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
While Shanahan certainly used the Baylor offense and suited that to Griffin,…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm Mike Shanahan is going to use Baylor plays?
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Thank you for taking my posts out of context. Of course I did not contradict myself. But you know who used to do that? MaddenRaider. You seem a lot like him actually.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
2yd passes and 1 yd runs? sounds like the Krapp offense.
how did the D do? did our LBs play lights out again?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Then eventually the Defense said F-this im tired and QUIT!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Not sure what Seymour is saying.
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Sorry, it does take some intelligence. Sorry you’re not quite there dude. But, hey society has to have people to change the soiled sheets too.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Wow,..really Max?…start 0-5 then end up 10-6?…just stop it man. Have some pride.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
All I am trying to say is play to the strength of your roster.
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What I said yesterday is no new GM, or new staff is going to come in, and implement the old orders systems and try to do it the way the old order did. Ain’t gonna happen. And there are reasons for it: lst, if the old order systems were so good, why did they get replaced? So, what you are going to have is new systems, new players.
The problem that we have here is McKenzie came in with no draft picks, no cap room and no money. So they instituted their systems with as many of the old orders players as they could stomach.
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Bullchit’
The problem is McKenzie didn’t draft a Corner….he instead gambled on 2 older injury plagued players who hadn’t played the previous season….
He has money…
He got to choose his Coach…
Stop defending McKenzie…
Let him do it for himself…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
@paradise
Its a shame as Houston was prodcutive without the flashy stats in preseason, lots of TFL etc.
I agree, get f****g NASTY and Put Missle34 out there too….
September 18th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
We start 0-5 and then finish 10-6. Think about it. Issues fixed by then. A couple of winnable games take us on a hot streak with one loss in a close one with Baltimore. Totally possible.
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Possible, but I don’t think anyone can rebound from
0-5 ….. I see this game a good chance for a win, I know I’m in the minority, BUT the players and staff semmed just as disgusted as we are … I think they play very well.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
What Seymour saying is that:
When Gruden went to the Bucs,
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Didn’t MR always talk about Gruden? Man, you REALLY REALLY REALLY remind me of MR dude.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Fellas! I couldn’t catch the Miami game. Give me the skinny.
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Can’t run it, Palmer misfired, the D missed tackles and faded badly.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Bullchit’
The problem is McKenzie didn’t draft a Corner….he instead gambled on 2 older injury plagued players who hadn’t played the previous season….
He has money…
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Uh, the reason he gambled on two older injured players was because he didn’t have the money. But thanks for proving my point!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I see the day crowd is filled with Raider employees….
You people should get to work….while you still have a job!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
did beeech dawg leave with that floozy amy? there probably heading to the castro right now.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Bullchit’
The problem is McKenzie didn’t draft a Corner….he instead gambled on 2 older injury plagued players who hadn’t played the previous season….
He has money…
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Uh, the reason he gambled on two older injured players was because he didn’t have the money. But thanks for proving my point!
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Love the excuses….keep them coming….you’re gonna need em’
September 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
yeah, some of us appreciated winning, Gruden, Allen, Woodson, Gannon…
crazy.
And it was an easy hole for your incorrect post. MANY times a new regime only fixes one side of the ball.
Gruden – O – Bucs
Harbaugh – O – 49ers
Bruce Arians – O (spread attack led to SB) Steelers
Dungy – D – Colts
September 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
if I had it my way on defense:
CB: Huff
CB: Lee
FS: Mitchell
SS: Branch
September 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
goodness Seymour! lol
Raiders had a TERRIBLE cap problem, waaaaaaaay over the cap, and McKenzie had to cut some solid players just to get under.
No, he didn’t have money.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Man people get angry when they get proven to not know what they are saying. No wonder Romney is melting down.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Brien and I will be in row 1,..a heavy tv area,..B putting together a sign,..we dont have it down yet, still mulling ideas,…mine is GRUDEN 2013,..Brien doesnt like that…any ideas? If I choose your idea I will host you to a game in row 1 this season. Not kidding.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
MANY times a new regime only fixes one side of the ball.
Gruden – O – Bucs
Harbaugh – O – 49ers
Bruce Arians – O (spread attack led to SB) Steelers
Dungy – D – Colts
Seymour doesn’t believe this.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Yeah I believe we beat Pittsburg
September 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Reggie Bush 26 for 172 & 2 TDs? wait, Reggie Bush?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Reggie was warned that he was making a mistake….but you don’t know anything about that Seymour Bush…..do you?
The problem with the employees in Alameda is that no one listens….
No one…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
2. never said black qb’s are better than white that is your own insecurity coring your perception of what i have written (subconscious fear of genetic annihilation )
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LOL! wow. u are like damon wayans’ pro-black character in prison who has just a little knowledge and it comes out so completely wrong. my subconscious fear of genetic annihilation. hahaha! u must have been something when u took ur afro studies course at the community college. that’s fun.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
yeah, some of us appreciated winning, Gruden, Allen, Woodson, Gannon…
crazy.
And it was an easy hole for your incorrect post. MANY times a new regime only fixes one side of the ball.
Gruden – O – Bucs
Harbaugh – O – 49ers
Bruce Arians – O (spread attack led to SB) Steelers
Dungy – D – Colts
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Wow, excellent job. You named four coaching changes where they kept some semblance of the prior regime. On average there are five to six vacancies each year. What about the other 400 times teams changed regimes?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
What Seymour saying is that:
When Gruden went to the Bucs,
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Didn’t MR always talk about Gruden? Man, you REALLY REALLY REALLY remind me of MR dude.
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alex is 100% sullivan. isn’t even debatable.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Reggie was warned that he was making a mistake…
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Who warned him? Al, from beyond the grave, through a ouiji board?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
cannot believe reggie has hanson and lee as starters…personnel guy my azs
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Keep building that wall of excuses….Reggie wanted the job….is paid to do the job…..fired who he wanted to fire….hired who he wanted to hire….cut who he wanted to cut….and signed who he wanted to sign….
All this and got to choose his Coach too….
I’d say the man has too much POWER…
With Power comes responsibility….and so far….Reggie has taken none…..
2 games in and everything he was warned would happen has happened….
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
lol Seymour
you said “NO” new regime.
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
What I said yesterday is no new staff is going to come in, and implement the old orders systems
September 18th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
so yeah, a quick 4 proofs to the contrary kinda shoot down your “no” effort.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
alex is 100% sullivan. isn’t even debatable.
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As soon as he brought up Gruden that was it. Do you know he still has a life sized Gruden Fathead above his bed? It’s been well documented.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
cannot believe reggie has hanson and lee as starters…personnel guy my azs
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TRUE when he released DVD he said its was hard he had a “boatload of talent” then what to say about Hanson & Lee?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
lol Seymour
you said “NO” new regime.
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Whoah, Alex, OK you got me there. Instead of saying “no new regime”, I should have said, 99% of the time,
September 18th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
KoolKell, DennisAllen’sVisor, Sullivan, Young American…
from what I’ve read, those guys are at least realistic in here, along with me, and can break down reality instead of predicting playoffs and being SHOCKED when we lose at Miami.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I’m done picking on the coaches….
I’m picking on the man who selected the man who selected the Coaching Staff…
THE GENERAL MANAGER…
and you can bet I’m gonna ride the GM til he is fired or he shows us a TROPHY….
Which do you think will happen first?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I didn’t watch the game, but from the sound of it the problem is that the guys getting the big bucks (Dline) are not putting enough pressure on the QB to help the guys getting peanuts (Corners)…Reggie Bush 172 yds? what frigging year is this?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
seymour
it’s a pattern though. You say something, it isn’t right, you didn’t really mean it, you didn’t mean to contradict yourself…
come on man. Either have it right from the get go or learn from your mistakes.
you’re just wrong often and stubborn.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
why we lost:
1. CP hit DMAC in the hands on a what would have been a td instead fg
2. Branch didn’t hold contain on the sideline when there were plenty of raider defenders that would have stopped reggie bush for a short gain if branch turns him away from the sideline instead long td run
3. Bush broke 4 tackles in the redzone on his way to a td
4. fasano caught a pass in the redzone fasano had an easy crack at him but bounced right off of him
September 18th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
2. never said black qb’s are better than white that is your own insecurity coring your perception of what i have written (subconscious fear of genetic annihilation )
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LOL! wow. u are like damon wayans’ pro-black character in prison who has just a little knowledge and it comes out so completely wrong. my subconscious fear of genetic annihilation. hahaha! u must have been something when u took ur afro studies course at the community college. that’s fun.
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its tru, that is why you see race in everything i write.
I hate to tell you this but the nfl has changed football has changed and guy like tp, rgIII russell wilson, and cam newton are the wave of the future.
The days of taking the most athletically gifted qb in the drafted and moving him to wr or db is over, and long over due at that.
Im sorry if you are some ow threatened by this, but it isnt my fault
September 18th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
The problem is McKenzie didn’t draft a Corner….he instead gambled on 2 older injury plagued players who hadn’t played the previous season….
He has money…
He got to choose his Coach…
Stop defending McKenzie…
Let him do it for himself…
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I thought GM Big Mac strenght was to evalute the best talent for the dollar. That should start from day one. I think my man backstageatapuppetshow has a good point!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Macho Man
here’s what we need, aka why we lost at miami and are going 5-11.
A defensive end pass rusher.
Better linebackers.
Better cornerbacks than can also run-tackle.
A better OC that can keep the D off the field in Miami heat.
Better OL.
Better WR play.
A 3-4 D system implemented into what we have.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Minn new systems, Carolina new systems, TB new systems, Rams, new systems, Miami new systems, and that’s just the last year or two.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
you’re just wrong often and stubborn.
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No MR, you lose the argument and try to focus on one word or twist what the other person is saying. Kind of a sad way of arguing really.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Start Pryor,Mcfadden’s fault.Some of these fkng guys around here never fails to fkng emaze me.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Harrison and Poollulpollmmuuu not playing Sunday Im sure,..only due to opponant,..same reason Big Ben and starters only play first half. Think its bad now at 0-2?…around Thanksgiving when the team is still trying to get that first win, and the team across the bay hasnt lost one yet,…hey,…dig in babies,..see what youre made of. Truth. Always.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
…And by the way the new system of things get a pass for failure for up to five years.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
for the wco to work the qb must complete better than 60% of his passes and for it to be exceptional the percentage should be 65.
50% wont get it done, and is a problem
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Happening exactly like I thought,Palmer playing much harder then I thought to this point.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
another reason we lost:
pat lee made hartline look like jerry rice and no adjustments (safety help, putting spencer on him) were made
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
When you have bad corners you you might as well blitz away with crazy fronts, stand up linemen, move around, shift, sometimes drop back, just bring diff looks and bring more than 5 every snap.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Not sure what Dennis is trying to prove by NOT wearing Raider gear to his monday pressers,…him and his Sears shirts are just stupid,…someone needs to talk to him,..its a shame Big Dummy Reg doesnt speak English.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
seymour
your words ARE your argument. if they don’t make sense, that’s your fault.
You said NO COACH WAS READY FOR RGIII TO RUN SOME BAYLOR PLAYS.
Are you kidding me?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
seymour
your words ARE your argument. if they don’t make sense, that’s your fault.
You said NO COACH WAS READY FOR RGIII TO RUN SOME BAYLOR PLAYS.
Are you kidding me?
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Did you see the New Orleans game? They weren’t ready for them to run those plays.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
probably the same guy who would say that Newton surprised the league last year and now coaches would catch up.
Coaches LIVE to do film study on EVERYTHING that exists on players.
They’re not going to “catch-up” to RGIII. He’s solid, will have bad days, his OC will adjust to DC’s adjustments…
it goes back and forth. But he’s ahead of the curve.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Im starting to gain some REGGIE hater fans.Have you seen his bottom lip??? YUK.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
lol Seymour
was New Orleans ready for ANYTHING? Panthers put 35 on them.
RGIII, pass over the middle to Garcon on a simple 15 yard in, no tackling, TD!
Whoa, what a weird Baylor-ish play!
September 18th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I couldnt care less about Big Dummys lip,..fact is hes plain dumb. Zero football evaluating talent, and for sure failed at head coaching talent evaluating.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
This team is coached and managed by BUMMS. Plain and simple.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
All I am trying to say is play to the strength of your roster.
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What I said yesterday is no new GM, or new staff is going to come in, and implement the old orders systems and try to do it the way the old order did. Ain’t gonna happen. And there are reasons for it: lst, if the old order systems were so good, why did they get replaced?
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And again which is why you are kind of a POS, you took my statement out of context. Read it again: No new GM is going to implement the old orders systems. if they were so good, why did they get replaced? The examples you used, the old systems WERE good. Do you think Dungy was going to release Peyton Manning? Or Gruden was going to let that TB defense hit the waiver wire? You took one sentence in a paragraph and manipulated it. Kind of gutless really…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
2. never said black qb’s are better than white that is your own insecurity coring your perception of what i have written (subconscious fear of genetic annihilation )
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LOL! wow. u are like damon wayans’ pro-black character in prison who has just a little knowledge and it comes out so completely wrong. my subconscious fear of genetic annihilation. hahaha! u must have been something when u took ur afro studies course at the community college. that’s fun.
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its tru, that is why you see race in everything i write.
I hate to tell you this but the nfl has changed football has changed and guy like tp, rgIII russell wilson, and cam newton are the wave of the future.
The days of taking the most athletically gifted qb in the drafted and moving him to wr or db is over, and long over due at that.
Im sorry if you are some ow threatened by this, but it isnt my fault
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ur hilarious. i see race in everything u say because that’s primarily ALL u talk about. i don’t see race in everyone else’s posts. black qb’s are nothing new. they’re just being given more chances now. that’s cool. i’m all for it. ur the racist pal. pryor, rg3, wilson, and newton aren’t even all alike. rg3 and newton are similar. wilson is more like doug flutie. pryor is much more like randall cunningham.
u think i’m threatened by it? laughable. only a self-serious delusional race-obsessed guy like urself thinks all white people are threatened by u and blacks in general. it’s very funny.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
And I knew all that the second I took a look at that bubba idiot.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
reggie is even more overated than visor coaches…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
We rather lose than bring Plaxico in?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Alex do you think just taking parts of sentences is a way to argue or do you think it’s gutless?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
MYERS WITH THE GRAB: TE Brandon Myers has emerged as a favorite target of QB Carson Palmer early this season, as the fourth-year player leads all Raiders tight ends and receivers with 11 catches for 151 yards. Myers is averaging 13.7 yards per reception and has posted a pair of catches of 20 yards or more, including a career-long 26-yard grab in the season opener against San Diego. Myers’ 151 receiving yards already matches his entire receiving yardage output from last season.
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Good for Myers.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
EVERY YEAR for 9 straight THE RAIDERS LACK TALENT
every year Davis and the fans blamed the head coach.
guess some people just never learn.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
for the wco to work the qb must complete better than 60% of his passes and for it to be exceptional the percentage should be 65.
50% wont get it done, and is a problem
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i don’t think completion percentage is nearly as important as yards-per-attempt. give me the guy who gets 80 yards by completing 5 of 10 over the guy who gets 70 yards completing 7 of 10. throw it ten times. who moves the ball most? that’s what counts.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
you brought up race, i did not
hence you have the problem
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
GRUDEN 2013
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
EVERY YEAR for 9 straight THE RAIDERS LACK TALENT
every year Davis and the fans blamed the head coach.
guess some people just never learn.
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davis is in Heaven nimrod.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Alex let’s try it your way:
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Coaches LIVE to do film study on EVERYTHING
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So uh, alex you are saying that coaches live to watch porn films? As preparation Alex for Sunday?
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Now, what I did like from Knapp was the use of the tightends. For a while I though we did not have any that could run routes and catch. Surprise, surprise when you find out players do exist. Gotta build on that !!! Knapp good job. can’t have a good running zone scheme with good catching tightends to take away an aggressive run defense.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
bush,
that was your entire point, that old systems are ALWAYS done away with.
And you know that’s not always true.
The Raiders COULD HAVE kept last year’s offensive-system in place. Plenty of teams have only changed one HALF of the team when new coach/GM comes in.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Myers sucks.Only makes plays at the end of games when d’s are playing way off due to us gettin our asses whooped.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
go away mr…we see what zone coverage can do to slow white recs, what zbs can do for superstars…
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
you brought up race, i did not
hence you have the problem
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u bring up race in practically every post. i was simply saying “enuff”.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Is Plaxico Burress not even worth a workout considering where we are offensively?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
DeMarcus Van Dyke @D_VanDyke8
Can’t even front, its going to feel weird Sunday but hey that’s life #Blessed
September 18th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
zbs is a great system. period. it works for countless teams. there is no such thing as a bad blocking system for a particular back. there either holes or there are not holes. there haven’t been holes. and contrary to what mistic said earlier, it has nothing to do with penetration. the zbs was designed to take advantage of defenders shooting gaps. in the zbs, those defenders run right into guys coming down the line, therefore opening lanes. what teams seem to be doing to us, is running along with our linemen and not shooting in, therefore jsut moving the entire line of scrimmage sideways with no holes. finally, the rb just gets swallowed up with no crease.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Plaxico should have already been tryed out at least.Reggie is just to stupid.Yes I think he would rather loose. Thinks he has a job forever.Got news for him,thats still Al’s son upstairs.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Hey thanks man, we really give a F about his twitter feed. FU and your twitter obsession loser.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
it would seem the next evolution for blocking schemes is to be “multiple”. some zbs and some power. change it up and keep the defense guessing.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
we have red zone issues and thats where plaxico excels..guarantee he has a great workout, especially against our corners.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Jaquizz Rogers = fantasy pickup of the week.
Michael Turner DUI 2 hours ago, averaging 2.2 yards a carry.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
for the wco to work the qb must complete better than 60% of his passes and for it to be exceptional the percentage should be 65.
50% wont get it done, and is a problem
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i don’t think completion percentage is nearly as important as yards-per-attempt. give me the guy who gets 80 yards by completing 5 of 10 over the guy who gets 70 yards completing 7 of 10. throw it ten times. who moves the ball most? that’s what counts.
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wrong, in the wco specifically it places a premium on completion percentage and is known as a high p[percentage offnese.
there is no premium on yard per attempt, because several of the patterns are short and tied to 3 step drops. many patterns are under 5 yards and there are even zero routes, meaning the wr runs his pattern at the line of scrimmage.
Study up a little bra, then try me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Offense
your welcome
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
#232 NOT for a team who was 9th in the league in total offense last year running a powerblocking scheme!!!! Zone blocking stupid bullshi for us. 9th in the league.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
plaxico would do nothing for us. we don’t need any receivers. the passing game has over 600 yards in two games. it’s the run game. why is this so hard to see? if u don’t know anything about football, why open ur mouth and try shouting out 35 year old receivers?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
2. never said black qb’s are better than white that is your own insecurity coring your perception of what i have written (subconscious fear of genetic annihilation )
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LOL! wow. u are like damon wayans’ pro-black character in prison who has just a little knowledge and it comes out so completely wrong. my subconscious fear of genetic annihilation. hahaha! u must have been something when u took ur afro studies course at the community college. that’s fun.
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its tru, that is why you see race in everything i write.
I hate to tell you this but the nfl has changed football has changed and guy like tp, rgIII russell wilson, and cam newton are the wave of the future.
The days of taking the most athletically gifted qb in the drafted and moving him to wr or db is over, and long over due at that.
Im sorry if you are some ow threatened by this, but it isnt my fault
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It’s not your fault that you quickly prop ONLY black qb’s?
It’s not your fault that since day one when your black qb was replaced by a white qb, you’ve rushed to insult the WHITE QB?
It’s not your fault that when your boy looks like cr@p, instead of pointing it out, you rush to point out CP also didn’t play well?
You notice how you mention 4 black qb’s are the wave of the future, but you didn’t mention Cassel, Bradford, or Flacco in that list of ‘wave of the future’?
BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, YOU RACI$T P-O-S.
Hey, we get it. You’re down and out. You blame “the man”. It’s “not your fault, you’re being held down because you’re black”.
At least admit it.
It’s very obvious to everyone who posts here.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Harbaugh already uses multiple run-blocking schemes. In fact, I think both brothers do.
Jim just added some NCAA plays a little more liberally due to his backup QB and drafting LaMichael James.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
I have to go now. Must run in fear of genetic annihilation….
September 18th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Jaquizz Rogers = fantasy pickup of the week.
Michael Turner DUI 2 hours ago, averaging 2.2 yards a carry…
September 18th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Reggie is building for the future, not for just this year.
Plaxico would take up snaps from a young WR that we actually need to develop for next year and beyond (or at least to give that youngster reps and see if he’s not part of the future).
September 18th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
for the wco to work the qb must complete better than 60% of his passes and for it to be exceptional the percentage should be 65.
50% wont get it done, and is a problem
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i don’t think completion percentage is nearly as important as yards-per-attempt. give me the guy who gets 80 yards by completing 5 of 10 over the guy who gets 70 yards completing 7 of 10. throw it ten times. who moves the ball most? that’s what counts.
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wrong, in the wco specifically it places a premium on completion percentage and is known as a high p[percentage offnese.
there is no premium on yard per attempt, because several of the patterns are short and tied to 3 step drops. many patterns are under 5 yards and there are even zero routes, meaning the wr runs his pattern at the line of scrimmage.
Study up a little bra, then try me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Offense
your welcome
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u have no knowledge compared to me pal. i am a football coach at the high school level. i didn’t talk about west coast or any other scheme. i said what was important period. i’m not going to get into why the west coast offense was designed (46 defense), but we ALL know it’s supposed to be high percentage short passes. duh. but ur the one IN LOVE with the NEW qb and his options. this is NOT WCO. duh.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Hey thanks man, we really give a F about his twitter feed. FU and your twitter obsession loser.
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Norco,
B would like on the sign “Al is Dead, What now”
See you in row 1.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
plaxico would do nothing for us. we don’t need any receivers. the passing game has over 600 yards in two games. it’s the run game. why is this so hard to see? if u don’t know anything about football, why open ur mouth and try shouting out 35 year old receivers?
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we have red zone issues..Plax caught twice as many TDS as any of our WRs last year with Sanchez as his qb. Did you see DHB fail miserably going up for that lob Palmer threw on Sunday. Plax is worth considering ..600 yrds ..2 tds (one against the prevent defense , the other on a 64yd screen)..
September 18th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
#240 Now there is somebody saying Plaxico would do nothing for us? Dude spend a few more years watching football ok before you make a tard out of yourself.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
you brought up race, i did not
hence you have the problem
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u bring up race in practically every post. i was simply saying “enuff”.
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actually i dont. I only talk about players and you and others immediately look to see what race they are.
Im sure you would not do that if i were talking about a running back, or receiver, or linebacker.
You only have a problem because the black player is a qb. get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
your fault not mine
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
If the new regime wants to RIDE OUT this TRAIN WRECK, Cool i know not to get excited for next years upener!! 2k for that vaca!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
@235: I asked Cork that in the chat earlier today.
Seems like unless you are inventing or re-inventing something new in the NFL (ie: ahead of the curve) you are aiming for mediocre. Seems to me only way to climb above the pile is to mix and match (unless you have something new or reborn and thus ahead of curve that is)…
September 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
for the wco to work the qb must complete better than 60% of his passes and for it to be exceptional the percentage should be 65.
50% wont get it done, and is a problem
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i don’t think completion percentage is nearly as important as yards-per-attempt. give me the guy who gets 80 yards by completing 5 of 10 over the guy who gets 70 yards completing 7 of 10. throw it ten times. who moves the ball most? that’s what counts.
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wrong, in the wco specifically it places a premium on completion percentage and is known as a high p[percentage offnese.
there is no premium on yard per attempt, because several of the patterns are short and tied to 3 step drops. many patterns are under 5 yards and there are even zero routes, meaning the wr runs his pattern at the line of scrimmage.
Study up a little bra, then try me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Offense
your welcome
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u have no knowledge compared to me pal. i am a football coach at the high school level. i didn’t talk about west coast or any other scheme. i said what was important period. i’m not going to get into why the west coast offense was designed (46 defense), but we ALL know it’s supposed to be high percentage short passes. duh. but ur the one IN LOVE with the NEW qb and his options. this is NOT WCO. duh.
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but my comment was about the WCO, and the idea that 50% wont get it done in the WCO.
You have problems bra
September 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Plaxico = touchdowns for anybody who doesnt understand.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Reggie is building for the future, not for just this year.
Plaxico would take up snaps from a young WR that we actually need to develop for next year and beyond (or at least to give that youngster reps and see if he’s not part of the future).
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ok , if thats the philosophy that we have to live with it..My only thought would to be consistent. Then Pryor shouldnt be inactive and little by little get game experience to see if he has any talent .
September 18th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
#240 Now there is somebody saying Plaxico would do nothing for us? Dude spend a few more years watching football ok before you make a tard out of yourself.
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i have watched more football and know more about the game than anyone on this board. i guess myself and the 32 gm’s in the nfl are on one side and u and some other idiots on this board are on the other.
there is one retard between us and that’s……well, not me. but most retards think everyone else is the one. like urself.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
bush,
that was your entire point, that old systems are ALWAYS done away with.
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No it wasn’t. Can you read or not read? If regimes are eliminated, chances are they are not very good. On the odd instances, TB being one, World Champion Dallas being another, when someone new comes in, there is not that great a chance they are going to scrap the entire team. That is what I said. If you read it.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Norco Boob. Lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I was watching football before you were an itch in your daddies pants son! Fkn Reggie bottom lip lovers make me sick.MORONS.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
you brought up race, i did not
hence you have the problem
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u bring up race in practically every post. i was simply saying “enuff”.
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actually i dont. I only talk about players and you and others immediately look to see what race they are.
Im sure you would not do that if i were talking about a running back, or receiver, or linebacker.
You only have a problem because the black player is a qb. get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
your fault not mine
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wrong stupid. u ONLY discuss black qb’s and how great they are and how nad white qb’s are.
here’s a challenge that i bet u won’t take:
name some bad black qb’s. i dare u.
and name some good white qb’s.
i bet u can’t stand to do it.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Plaxico = touchdowns for anybody who doesnt understand.
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Agreed, red zone beast. Draws pass intereference of scores with the jump ball. Huge threat. Cheap, no guaranteed money involved. and he already at his humble pie.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I was watching football before you were an itch in your daddies pants son! Fkn Reggie bottom lip lovers make me sick.MORONS.
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i’m 43 dumbazz
September 18th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Plaxico = touchdowns for anybody who doesnt understand.
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Agreed, red zone beast. Draws pass intereference of scores with the jump ball. Huge threat. Cheap, no guaranteed money involved. and he already at his humble pie.
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wow, u guys are som much smarter than all of the football talent evaluators in the nfl. LOL!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
#255 Yea let Plaxico take the snaps from the younger wr’s. You know why? Because they fkn SUCK A$$.Ya wanna win?None of us might be alive next year.Fk next year.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
EVERY gm and coach in the nfl would take dhb and moore over plaxico without question
September 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
#255 Yea let Plaxico take the snaps from the younger wr’s. You know why? Because they fkn SUCK A$$.Ya wanna win?None of us might be alive next year.Fk next year.
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Criner can fill that role.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Well your a 43 year old know sht about fooball mthafkr!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
plax is available to anyone and he sits at home. if we cut dhb or moore, EVERY team would put in for waivers. idiots.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Well your a 43 year old know sht about fooball mthafkr!
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well, i’m a successful high school football coach and former player who knows more about the game than u could ever hope to.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Just because Twaiwan Jones screwed thing up while in the backfield the first game does not mean the Raiders must abandon all counter direction plays in the back field. Good Coaches get them to execute those plays to there advantage. And yes, implementing offensive receiving plays with or without motion under the line of scrimmage should be some open options.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
mistic–afraid of my challenge? beacuse i’m gonna repost it every time i see u on here until u run away forever.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
No. Its all about the money for Plax.Only reason he hasnt been sighned.Dont call it sht that it isnt.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I was watching football before you were an itch in your daddies pants son! Fkn Reggie bottom lip lovers make me sick.MORONS.
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i’m 43 dumbazz
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Ooooooooooh wow. Lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
HillbillyHeaven Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
its tru, that is why you see race in everything i write.
I hate to tell you this but the nfl has changed football has changed and guy like tp, rgIII russell wilson, and cam newton are the wave of the future.
The days of taking the most athletically gifted qb in the drafted and moving him to wr or db is over, and long over due at that.
Im sorry if you are some ow threatened by this, but it isnt my fault
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It’s not your fault that you quickly prop ONLY black qb’s?
It’s not your fault that since day one when your black qb was replaced by a white qb, you’ve rushed to insult the WHITE QB?
It’s not your fault that when your boy looks like cr@p, instead of pointing it out, you rush to point out CP also didn’t play well?
You notice how you mention 4 black qb’s are the wave of the future, but you didn’t mention Cassel, Bradford, or Flacco in that list of ‘wave of the future’?
BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, YOU RACI$T P-O-S.
Hey, we get it. You’re down and out. You blame “the man”. It’s “not your fault, you’re being held down because you’re black”.
At least admit it.
It’s very obvious to everyone who posts here.
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First i havnt “propped up” any body. the outstanding body of work that newton, wilson, rgIII have put together stands on it own.
Im not sure what is meant when you say ‘It’s not your fault that when your boy looks like cr@p, instead of pointing it out, you rush to point out CP also didn’t play well?’ However i will always point out when a raider qb does not play well.
lastly bradford flacco and cassel are not in the same universe as tp rgIII wilson or newton.
have you ever watched any of them play? flacco cassel and bradford cant move like the wave of the future does. it is an athletic thing, only you and other small minded troglodytes want to make it racial
September 18th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Jarvis Jones is a game changer watched one of their games couple of weeks ago , the guy single handedly changed the game with his sack/fumble,ints,etc
September 18th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I know alot of successful football coaches who dont know jack about the NFL.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
No. Its all about the money for Plax.Only reason he hasnt been sighned.Dont call it sht that it isnt.
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If it’s all about money for Him at this stage of his career, what does that tell you?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
pass it on
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/Greg_Knapp.jpg
September 18th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I want touchdowns homie.Pay him.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I know alot of successful football coaches who dont know jack about the NFL.
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I doubt it.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
EVERY gm and coach in the nfl would take dhb and moore over plaxico without question
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and you know this bc your a high school coach?lol…moore is a talent to be determined. i agree I would take moore long term over plax. But when we are in the redzone or its 3rd and 5..id take plax over dhb everyday of the week..i know I’m not a GM so who cares. Criner and streeter are the next versions of murphy and chaz. they most likely wont be here 2 years from. If we want to improve in the red zone, plax would help us ..he had 8tds last year, thats double moore or dhb
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
#280 Still cant mind your own buisness can you fa g git?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I want touchdowns homie.Pay him.
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Everyone wants touchdowns, and are more than willing to pay for them.
What does that tell you?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
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You just weren’t raised right, were you?
ONLY A RACIST SCUMBAG WOULD POST THE ABOVE.
Poster wanted to know why you ONLY prop black qb’s and ALWAYS insult white qb’s, and that’s your answer?
Again, your parents sure fed you a load of self pity, didn’t they?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I still think Reggie will want his own QB in the Draft but if not I dont see why we wouldnt Pick Up Star Lotulelei who is easily the best DT/NT standing at 6′3 330 he won the Morris Trophy last year and I expect him to win it again. The guy is a monster.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Our biggest loss last year was Satele.
Putting in Pryor with this O-Line would be a disaster and would kill the guys confidence.
Our O-Line is getting no push and Palmer has not had a lot of time to throw. Yes he’s missed some throws but every QB does. Palmer is not the issue. He needs McFadden to get going so we can use play-action. Once/If that gets going, then we will talk.
This Division is still up for grabs. Where’s the Faith? The Donkeys lost to Detroit last year big time and were 1-4 before they went on their run.
We can do the same!!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Criner aint played yet! Dmoore still recovering, Ford IR! DHB only one healthy! Im for Plax he got two rings on both middle fingers for ya!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Nyraider. You will get know where with these fkn Reggie lovers. 0-2 aint bad enough I guess.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
EVERY gm and coach in the nfl would take dhb and moore over plaxico without question
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who said to cut dhb or moore? plax would be a 3rd wR who would have a good role in the red zone for us..its not worth a workout ?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
you brought up race, i did not
hence you have the problem
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u bring up race in practically every post. i was simply saying “enuff”.
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actually i dont. I only talk about players and you and others immediately look to see what race they are.
Im sure you would not do that if i were talking about a running back, or receiver, or linebacker.
You only have a problem because the black player is a qb. get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
your fault not mine
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wrong stupid. u ONLY discuss black qb’s and how great they are and how nad white qb’s are.
here’s a challenge that i bet u won’t take:
name some bad black qb’s. i dare u.
and name some good white qb’s.
i bet u can’t stand to do it.
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are you drunk or just stupid?
please show me where i posted “how bad white qbs are”
i will humor you even thoguh this kind of trash is beneath me.
spergyn wynn, vince evans, vince young, leftwich, bad qbs regardless of thier color
montana young elway plunkett, great qbs
you are an idiot
September 18th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
#280 Still cant mind your own buisness can you fa g git?
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Oh, do I know you? you people change your names so frequently, can’t keep up. Lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Our O-Line is getting no push and Palmer has not had a lot of time to throw. Yes he’s missed some throws but every QB does. Palmer is not the issue. He needs McFadden to get going so we can use play-action. Once/If that gets going, then we will talk.
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Agree. Palmer was off target against Miami, missed some throws he should have made, but if the D does,t respect the run, you,ve lost half the playbook.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
HillbillyHeaven Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
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You just weren’t raised right, were you?
ONLY A RACIST SCUMBAG WOULD POST THE ABOVE.
Poster wanted to know why you ONLY prop black qb’s and ALWAYS insult white qb’s, and that’s your answer?
Again, your parents sure fed you a load of self pity, didn’t they?
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hillbilly you really fit your name well
stating that black people are free in america ( debatable) is racist?
when your finished doing your sister, try reading
September 18th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
amazes me that people are stuck on criner….4.63 40…really. this is the nfl, de’s run 4.63…the problem with zbs, is its not aggressive they run sideways…when its time to hold their ground in pass blocking they are used to turning sideways…not aggressive at all…
September 18th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Dont know ya,dont want to.Stay out of my comment spots punk.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Is there any sensible person that thinks anyone is free in America? If you think so, then I would say that you don’t have a clue about what liberty really is.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Dr Robert came in here and smacked you fools around.
Nice to add another realist to the board.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Just got off the phone with another Raider fan buddy of mine and we can’t believe what we are seeing develop here with the Raiders.
McK screwed up bad, by not giving Hue another year and just hiring a better DC and telling Hue to cut down the penalties.
Allen is 39 and is in over his head. The kid is delusional, he says that Knapp is a “good OC and that he doesn’t care what outside perception is”??
Stubborness and stupidity is not a good thing for a young head coach like Allen and it’s not a good thing for a rookie GM like McK.
The season is lost!
Sad…especially after this team was so close the last two years of being in the playoffs.
It’s bull crap!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Pittsburgh is a top 10 defense so far …. but their 3rd down D has struggled without Harrison & Polamalu … they give up first downs 43% of the time on 3rd down. Thats a positive.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
twocents
I’d venture to say no one has had it better than us in the entire known history of the world.
So yeah, I’m happy with my liberty that lets me choose my career path, my wife, my hobbies, my technology…
Perfect? course not. Liberty? certainly, if you don’t seek for that which will never be.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
amazes me that people are stuck on criner….4.63 40…really. this is the nfl, de’s run 4.63…the problem with zbs, is its not aggressive they run sideways…when its time to hold their ground in pass blocking they are used to turning sideways…not aggressive at all…
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Criner doesn’t run fast in a straight line.
He runs precise routes and gets out of breaks clean, with separation.
He’s big, and has great hands. He should be an ideal red zone possession receiver.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
DKnight
if it makes you feel better, EVERY head coach says they’re happy with their assistants up until the day they’re fired.
Just normal PR decency.
If Knapp doesn’t produce this year, he’s out. It’s a wasted year anyways (lack of draft picks, talent)
September 18th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
lol
are the same guys who are blasting rookie possession receiver Criner’s 4.6 speed also pining for Plaxico?
some weird “fans” here.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Denver started 1-4 last year and had Tebow at QB and went 8-8 …. anything is possible and were far better team than they were last year. Just need a good run of big plays.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Fans were frustrated with and tired of, 20 years of losing with Al Davis. He passes away and a new GM was hired.
Now his old bootlicking crew from the last regime, are trying to undermine the New Administration. They’re going to hate all over Reggie, for the embellishment of Al Davis. Whom they felt was wronged.
Guess what? Al Davis is dead. Never coming back. He’s in the Hall of Fame, for his contributions to Football.
Move on.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Our O-Line is getting no push and Palmer has not had a lot of time to throw. Yes he’s missed some throws but every QB does. Palmer is not the issue. He needs McFadden to get going so we can use play-action. Once/If that gets going, then we will talk.
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Agree. Palmer was off target against Miami, missed some throws he should have made, but if the D does,t respect the run, you,ve lost half the playbook.
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it looked to me Miami was putting 8 in the box alot and DHB was not getting alot of separation. Palmer had some good plays and good stats, but i’m just concerned he doesnt have the IT factor. I mean Dmac should have caught the pass at the end of the 2nd half but Palmer somewhat frooze even though he was looking at Dmac and screwed up the timing. I also thought the biggest non play of the game was on 3rd and 6 from our 6 , palmer had dmoore on a slant wide open which possibly could have went the distance or at a minimum got us excellent field position. Palmer missed him we had to punt , Miami got great field position and scored the go ahead touchdown and changed momentum. Palmer is a good QB , but he doesnt seem to make the 2 or 3 clutch plays in a game .He was 1 for 12 on 3rd down conversions. thats why maybe a clutch possession receiver like Plax could help Palmer
September 18th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Denver started 1-4 last year and had Tebow at QB and went 8-8 …. anything is possible and were far better team than they were last year. Just need a good run of big plays.
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denvers defense became very good as the season went on, we dont have that here.
tebow presented a unique challenge for defenses with his zone read option, palmer deos not in the wco.
palmer is a bigger head ache for the defnse in hu jacks vertical offense he is badly mis cast in the wco
September 18th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
DKnight
if it makes you feel better, EVERY head coach says they’re happy with their assistants up until the day they’re fired.
Just normal PR decency.
If Knapp doesn’t produce this year, he’s out. It’s a wasted year anyways (lack of draft picks, talent)
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Crazy. A head coach should make adjustments to save the season. Hire Saunders to call plays and call more power runs, traps and counter plays to open lanes for DMC and Reece. Saunders would also call more screens to DMC and Reece, take advantage of mismatches with Reece and go deep more.
Allen is already digging his own grave, he hired a turd like Knapp to try and fix what wasn’t broken on offense (McK allowed him to, which was a mistake) and now what was once the strength of the team is a weakness.
Sad!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
4.63 forty! No separation on that, add that to Krappy five yard outs and he gets 7 yards max! On 3rd 8 we are still short!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Bottom line is some fans think Mckenzie can do no wrong and every choice he makes is the right one.
Time will tell.. but by then it could be too late and most of the key players that made up the future of the Raiders could be gone. DMAC included
September 18th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
4.63 forty! No separation on that, add that to Krappy five yard outs and he gets 7 yards max! On 3rd 8 we are still short!
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Jerry rice ran 4.7 at the combine.
It more than just straight line speed.
It’s not track, It’s football.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
2013 mock drafts out there have us picking QB Tyler Wilson at #6 overall:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1318689-2013-nfl-mock-draft-pre-regular-season-edition-with-projected-final-standings/page/7
Seems likely we will have the #1 overall pick and at worst #3. I would go with either CB David Amerson from NC State or the best rated OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
September 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
#306 nyraider,
Criner can provide what you speak of.
I’m pretty sure that’s why he was drafted.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1318689-2013-nfl-mock-draft-pre-regular-season-edition-with-projected-final-standings/page/2
September 18th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Alex7, you say you can do anything you want to do so you are free.
Would you grant me the same freedom as long as I am not violent and respect your property rights?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
All I read on this board for five years was how we need a new GM, we need a new system, we need new blood, we need to update our team. Now that that is happening all I am hearing is fire the new system, fire the new blood, fire the guy who updates the web site, what happened to our team?, this is not the Raider way! Man, some of you really need to just STFU.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m not really sure what the point is of tanking the team in order to rebuild it, but then again I’m not a big-lipped mushmouth idiot either.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
By the way, I love speed, but it has to come in a package that knows how to play FOOTBALL.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Already have too many young WR’s so I would not waste a first rounder on one. Need to pick up a veteran #1 WR in free agency.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Dr. Phil aint smack me down! Peep #287- im jus saying!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
McFadden is the next high priced player to hit the road.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
DKnight
if it makes you feel better, EVERY head coach says they’re happy with their assistants up until the day they’re fired.
Just normal PR decency.
If Knapp doesn’t produce this year, he’s out. It’s a wasted year anyways (lack of draft picks, talent)
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Crazy. A head coach should make adjustments to save the season. Hire Saunders to call plays and call more power runs, traps and counter plays to open lanes for DMC and Reece. Saunders would also call more screens to DMC and Reece, take advantage of mismatches with Reece and go deep more.
Allen is already digging his own grave, he hired a turd like Knapp to try and fix what wasn’t broken on offense (McK allowed him to, which was a mistake) and now what was once the strength of the team is a weakness.
Sad!
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I agree with you in a sense dknight, we have clealry gone backwards.
However Hu made too many blunders ans lost the trust of the front office and players, and assitant coaches. he couldnt be retained bevcause of this.
When hu said “i want more power” he unwittingly insinuated that his boss didnt know what he was doing. no exec will tolerate that.
when hue trashed bresnahan ( i get why he did it) he shot his self in the foot. what assistant would ant to work with hue, knowing he could be trashed in the media if things dont wotk out? No one would want to work with hue after that, he was already under a cloud of suspicion based on how cable was axed and he got the job, with rumors of hue sand bagging cable.
when hue trashed the players and ditched his self appointed team captian and back bone leader in the middle of the night he nearly caused a locker room mutiny. when he benched boss and dhb and hire housh off the street he came off as petty and punitive. He lost part of the locker room.
Hu screwed his self
September 18th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
HueKnew Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m not really sure what the point is of tanking the team in order to rebuild it, but then again I’m not a big-lipped mushmouth idiot either.
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Obviously bitter because you didn’t get the job. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
McFadden is the next high priced player to hit the road.
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If Reggie does the full fire sale, maybe.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Mark should be doing the fire sale around Oakland, starting with Reggie
September 18th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
And the mindless Reggie hate is in full rage tonight, I see…
September 18th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Hu screwed his self
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His tongue wagged Him right out of town.
To bad, I’d take His offense right about now.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Mindless, have you seen the pile of dog crap he has put out there on the field? take the blinders off
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
We should draft CB & DE next year.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Hu screwed his self
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His tongue wagged Him right out of town.
To bad, I’d take His offense right about now.
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Hue’s got nobody to blame but himself. You don’t start telling the owner what’s what.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
The complete list of players who worked out today is as follows: T Patrick Brown, Central Florida, DB Darius Butler, UConn, DE Andre Carter, Cal, DB Cletis Gordon, Jackson State, DB Antwaun Gordon, Eastern Kentucky, DB Kevin Thomas, USC.
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any of these guys worth signing??
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Obviously bitter because you didn’t get the job. lol
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Bitter I’m not still the coach. But like I say, “Next Man Up”.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Boss01 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Mindless, have you seen the pile of dog crap he has put out there on the field? take the blinders off
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And this is Year 1 of a multi-year plan. Patience, grasshopper.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
the Saints are 0-2 (like us)
think they’re talking draft already??
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@JoshDubowAP: Week 2 #Raiders burn rates: Hanson 5-6 58; Lee 4-6 56; Huff 3-4 40; McClain 2-3 19 TD;
Nice, ha? Playmakers? not.
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
the Saints are 0-2 (like us)
think they’re talking draft already??
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I don’t go to Saints message boards, but they might well be…
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
4 of the guys trying out are DB’s
I guess we wont be promoting Chekwa??
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
ZB = lineman doing swan dives then the RB diving on them!
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Hu screwed his self
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His tongue wagged Him right out of town.
To bad, I’d take His offense right about now.
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Hue’s got nobody to blame but himself. You don’t start telling the owner what’s what.
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I think Hue thought Al told Mark to keep him as HC / GM in case Al didn’t make it…wishful thinking on his part
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Thirty years of losing. Turn it around in two games or it’s on to the next man?
September 18th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
#306 nyraider,
Criner can provide what you speak of.
I’m pretty sure that’s why he was drafted.
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I hope your right, but sometimes I think we all think our own players are more capable then they are. Plaxico caught 8 tds last yr with a qb like Mark Sanchez. The last Oakland receiver who caught 8 was Randy Moss in 2005. maybe Criner is the next tim Brown? But right now with our red zone issues id at least take a look at Plax. Unless we are going with a youth movement which is a whole different story. IMO, the raiders lack playmakers on both sides of the ball. We seem to celebrate way too much when a receiver has 3 or 4 catches during a game when in reality its all about scoring TDs which Plax does.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
McFadden is the next high priced player to hit the road.
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If Reggie does the full fire sale, maybe.
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Doesn’t McFaddens have one more year on his contract? Time to jettison this load of crap.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
the Saints are 0-2 (like us)
think they’re talking draft already??
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2 PROBOWL O-LINEMEN
BREES
COLSTON
JIMMY GRAHAM
SPROLLES
no they are not thinking draft, take a wild guess why?
stupid
September 18th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
We should draft CB & DE next year.
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Hey O.
Yep.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Been a while since I posted last; here’s my rant:
Knapp needs to go. He simply cannot adapt to the defenses that are being run in today’s NFL – ’nuff said.
Palmer is not the main problem, but (at this point) he’s certainly not the game-changer that he once was. The luster is off the stone. At some point this season, we’re going to just need to turn the reigns over to TP6 and see what he can do. But, at the very least, the QBs and the WRs are going to need to get on the same page. We’re not there now.
Trade DMac. I love the guy, and I wish him well – but we need to see what we can get in return – we need to build a team. Even a healthy DMac, operating solo, ain’t gonna get it done.
Defense – atrocious! atrocious! atrocious! The biggest, baddest beast on the defensive front who is available should be our top pick in 2013. Then, seek help through free agency to fill in a few gaps.
I will be happy now with 8-8 this year, but I am thinking that may not be realistic. We’ll see. Regardless of what happens, silver and black are still my colors, and the autumn wind still blows …
September 18th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I saw several swan dives Sunday , I guess they pretending to be on Miami’s South Beach.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Hu screwed his self
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His tongue wagged Him right out of town.
To bad, I’d take His offense right about now.
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Hue’s got nobody to blame but himself. You don’t start telling the owner what’s what.
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LOL 100%….Hubris?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
the Saints are 0-2 (like us)
think they’re talking draft already??
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I hear next year they plan on having an excellent coach with a proven track record.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
HueKnew Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Obviously bitter because you didn’t get the job. lol
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Bitter I’m not still the coach. But like I say, “Next Man Up”.
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lol, we all want to be the Coach, GM, Owner…until we have to face the music when things go bad. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Later DMC asked Lechler to critique his dives and Lechler shakes his head stating the dives were not up to North Beach standards !
September 18th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I don’t think we should/ need to rebuild.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
334 –
Bad comparison.
Saints – Super Bowl winners from three years ago
Raiders – not even a scratch for a full decade
September 18th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@349
The messed up part is, that is everybody BUT the actual owner.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
We can be 2-0, 10-0, or 0-2. I enjoy talking about the draft. It’s my favorite part of the season.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
KoolKell, I loved Al Davis and still do. I don’t Know if you ever loved The Raider Football Father, Al Davis or not. The bootlickers you so call us are just looking at the production that is on display right now. It not easy to get over a love one when the NEW REGIME is underperforming. I quoted all I am looking for is 8-8. That record is what got Hue fired. The Raiders new GM and the coaches were supposed to be better than Hue. No one that I can remember stated the Raiders get a free pass to suck one year before they get better.
I hate what happened to Hue but not out to undermine the future. Yes, we know Al Davis is dead!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
“Mark’s hair” is not a true football guy — he’s simply holding the reigns that his dad left him.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
With the new CBA, the good news is top 5 draft picks are much more affordable. So as we collect a few in the next couple of years will still have room to add other players
September 18th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Remember the green bay game last year, expect the same type of game Sunday unless Big Ben remembers how Seymour slapped last time and let’s up on us, DVD might be let go after this game so we can grab him back after the coaches pick his nitwit.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
HueKnew Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@349
The messed up part is, that is everybody BUT the actual owner.
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It’s 2 games into a real Season with a whole new group.
Mark will do what is required if things don’t improve, but he’s gotta allow this to play out for years, not weeks.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
We can be 2-0, 10-0, or 0-2. I enjoy talking about the draft. It’s my favorite part of the season.
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That’s how we met O.
I was advocating Alex Mack with our 1st pick. Ha!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I caught a few minutes of Comcast’s after-game show with former Raider center Jeremy Newberry. He pointed out, along with the host, that Palmer had been wearing since training camp, a bandage above his elbow. He also said the bandage was now a black one, presumably because it blended into the black jerseys.
They were of a mind that Palmer has been nursing tendonitis of the elbow and that it had greatly affected his accuracy. If that is true, it would also greatly affect the play calling, fewer long throws, for example, and problems with quick outs.
Has anyone paid enough attention to Palmer’s throws and throwing motion to have seen indications of a problem? It’s sure true that on several occasions, even when he’s been safe in the pocket, he has not followed through…passes have sailed high on receivers.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Len,
We need to improve our pass rush and the secondary especially the CBs. I still think we have enough talent and a capable vet QB, so I don’t think we should rebuild.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Miami hasn’t allowed an opposing running back to crack 100 yards in 16 straight games, the NFL’s longest current streak..Miami’s run D is legit and maybe DMAC breaks out against the Steelers, if not against the donks, well maybe against Atl? if not, Jacksonville for sure, he owned them last time
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
HueKnew Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@349
The messed up part is, that is everybody BUT the actual owner.
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It’s 2 games into a real Season with a whole new group.
Mark will do what is required if things don’t improve, but he’s gotta allow this to play out for years, not weeks.
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Exactly. One of the MANY things being disposed of is Al’s quick hook on coaches, executives and whatnot that made it so difficult to get good people in here.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
I say we just let Meth and Bob run the team at least it would be interesting
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Raidertbone Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
“Mark’s hair” is not a true football guy — he’s simply holding the reigns that his dad left him.
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He acknowledges he’s not Football smart like his Dad.
Most aren’t.
That’s why he’s moving towards a conventional structure..
Sounds smart to me.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
I say we just let Meth and Bob run the team at least it would be interesting
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We’d be on our fifth head coach, 6th starting QB and 4th GM…THIS WEEK.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
are the same guys who are blasting rookie possession receiver Criner’s 4.6 speed also pining for Plaxico?
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LOL
September 18th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
So unforunatly for me I went to the raiders vs dolphins game. It was the worst second half of football I’ve ever seen firsthand. And I never thought id say this but… I miss hue Jackson. Say what u want about the mani-pedis, his inability to fix penalties and the defense, or how he snapped when we got knocked out of the playoffs by the chargers last year and then proceeded to blame everything on the players… But I still miss hue Jackson. And after only two games. Davis and reggie need to man up and admit they were wrong, Fire knapp, keep Allen as the HC and go appologize on their knees to hue, and beg him to come back and be our OC. With all of hues shortcommings the one thing he excelled at was running the offense. So again. I never though I wouod say it… But I miss hue Jackson.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Go Raiders
September 18th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Post 367
Might be true but hey like I said it would be interesting….. I wonder if they would use the Semi-Pros on this blog as Talent Evaluators
September 18th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Len,
We need to improve our pass rush and the secondary especially the CBs. I still think we have enough talent and a capable vet QB, so I don’t think we should rebuild.
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I hear You O.
I want to win NOW. I’m sure the organization does as well.
How that plays out with respect pt long term philosophy, and the immediate circumstance, is to be determined.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
You forgot jamarcus russell
September 18th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
are the same guys who are blasting rookie possession receiver Criner’s 4.6 speed also pining for Plaxico?
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LOL
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not me , i value catching TDs and being able to create separation physically in the red zone which Plax is terrific at it. i could care less about speed in the red zone. its about strength, quickness, and having the will to go up and catch that TD. Something Plax did 8 times last year while our best WR only caught4
September 18th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Draft Jarvis Jones ,the kid is a gamer
September 18th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
dont the Chargers usually start 0-4 every year and still win the division??
Why cant Oakland do the same?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
374,
Stop it. You’re making too much sense.
We don’t need a guy like that.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
We can be 2-0, 10-0, or 0-2. I enjoy talking about the draft. It’s my favorite part of the season.
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That’s how we met O.
I was advocating Alex Mack with our 1st pick. Ha!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I wanted an OT, Orakpo, or Maclin (the next T Brown). lol I love the draft.
3 years?! It was/ is a pleasure chatting with you. You People are great.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I would have given my right testicle to have Orakpo in that draft
September 18th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
We need better play from the players.
Look at how the DB coach was on the sidelines going bonkers EVERY TIME our corner let that slow arssed white boy (sorry, white folks, lol) run that basic 8 yd out. You saw him motioning for the corner to move up. You saw him pleading with the guy (both of those bums) to break on the play he KNEW was coming.
Just one example.
DHB STILL running bad routes is beyond ridiculous. A WR running routes short of the first down marker on 3rd down WHEN THERE WAS NO ONE AROUND HIM is just dumb, man.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
I never thought I would say this but if we start 0-5 I would trade for Tim Tebow and let him unleash, I would even trade Dmac for him if they also gave us a 2nd rounder which I think Rex would go for…at this point desperate times call for desperate measures…there is a reason Carson Palmer has never won in his career, granted part of that reason is the Bungholes, but he is not gonna take this team anywhere on his own this year…Tim Tebow would ball with this team
September 18th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I was advocating Alex Mack with our 1st pick. Ha!
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I think you and I were the only ones.
We caught a lot of crap for that too, lol.
I’d still do it today!!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Len,
I expected a few mistakes from our rookie GM and HC. Ex: Knapp, the 26 YO rookie who is inactive on gameday, not drafting a CB or a DE, etc…
But what do I know? I’m not qualified to judge. I didn’t play college football. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Code black
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Some of you guy’s need to watch Cellmates and just laugh
September 18th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Greg Knapp is the Chuck Bresnehan of the offense.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Just got my copy of Madden 13 on PS3 ready to rip fools heart out
September 18th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Is Greg Knapp related to Chuck Bresnehan???
September 18th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I would say Plax is a no brainer.
Except for the fact that 3 weeks into the season, NO OTHER TEAM has signed the guy.
Unless we are cutting slow arsse Hagan or Criner, Plax isn’t coming to Oakland.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Some of you guy’s need to watch Cellmates and just laugh
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Hahahahaha ,hilarious movie
September 18th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
All I read on this board for five years was how we need a new GM, we need a new system, we need new blood, we need to update our team. Now that that is happening all I am hearing is fire the new system, fire the new blood, fire the guy who updates the web site, what happened to our team?, this is not the Raider way! Man, some of you really need to just STFU.
^^^^^^^^
Old man Al died at the wrong time.
If he was alive, he would have kept Hue and let Hue hire a better DC.
We finally get a new GM and he makes a rookie GM mistake, by being overzealous (likely pressure from Mark Davis) and not evaluating the head coach properly and not understanding how important maintaining offensive continuity was (which was the strength of the team) and the allowing a young rookie 39 year old head coach to try to fix what wasn’t broken by not realizing to not mess with the offense and just work on the defense and fixing the penalty.
Once Knapp was hired and whole new system was brought in….it was over for the team as a whole.
They keep RB coach Kelly Skipper, but they don’t keep Saunders as OC and they don’t keep Fassel as special teams coach and force Big Wiz to resign because he knew the ZBS would not work here??
Bad decisions all around by McK and Allen.
Their stubborness will make them look stupid as well.
Rookie GM makes mistakes and so does his rookie head coach.
Here comes a top 4 pick in next years draft!
Sad!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
No way I’m drafting a C in the 1st round. I could consider it, if we were a SB contender, we had talent at every position, and C was a need.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Len,
I expected a few mistakes from our rookie GM and HC. Ex: Knapp, the 26 YO rookie who is inactive on gameday, not drafting a CB or a DE, etc…
But what do I know? I’m not qualified to judge. I didn’t play college football. lol
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We already know why Bergs is inactive. He won’t be for long.
We DID draft a DE.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Mcfadden20 …Yea man I just started watching it and with all the race baiting that goes on in here I figured some of these guy’s could watch it and realize how stupid they really are
September 18th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
We all know Orakpo would have been the best choice… Imagine him playing for us rite now
September 18th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Is Greg Knapp related to Chuck Bresnehan?
^^^^^^^
He sure is!
Terrible! Another 3 years of losing.
Stanford head coach David Shaw will be the new Raiders head coach in 2 more years!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Here is the official ‘Fire Greg Knapp’ Facebook page. I did not create it…I just came across it.
I guess we aren’t the only ones sick of this crap!!!
Would you rather fight back and let your voice be heard, or bend over and drop the soap for Greg Knapp like Sullivan44 chooses to do???
The choice is yours!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Greg-Knapp-Page/315099365254660
And don’t forget…here on this blog as well
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Wrong about Miami running lateral with our line.
There was RIDICULOUS penetration on damn near every running play.
Our guards are AWFUL.
The GMs first draft pick is INACTIVE?????
Can’t even get to 2nd string OG???
As bad as the OG position is playing????
September 18th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
O,
Are you Tommy??
September 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
We already know why Bergs is inactive.
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Why????
September 18th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
People expected and understand a rooke GM and rookie head coach like Allen to make mistakes, but it was inexcusable for a rookie head coach like Hue last year to make mistakes??
Especially with the crazy emotional roller coaster of adversity he had to deal with in his first year?
What a bunch hypocrites we on this blog and in the local media.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Idiotic post of the day:
“You can’t change the scheme that you practiced in training during the season…even if the current scheme isn’t a good fit for the players…”
UM…WELL WHAT THE HELL DID THE BRONCOS DO WITH TIM TEBOW LAST YEAR?
Freakin idiots.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
On to reality:
Last night showed Manning does not have the arm strength he once had. Bronco’s will start losing.
SD; no hope.
KC: could easily be worse than us.
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playoff still in the picture.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
We already know why Bergs is inactive.
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Why????
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Because, like most NFL teams, we only have two backup o-linemen active on game day. One backs up at both tackles, and the other has to backup all three interior positions.
Bergs doesn’t play center, so Parsons is active. For this reason, if Bergs were starting in place of either Carlisle or Brisiel, then THEY would be similarly inactive on game day.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Knapp not finding a way to use Reece and Ausberry is comical.
You would think that after that one MONSTER play Ausberry made, he would get 1 or 5 more immediate looks!
Is there a LB or S in the league that can cover him or Reece?
Be creative for Pete’s sake!!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I am embarrassed for whoever made that facebook page.
just look at the comments to see what kinda people we are talking about here.
Pathetic. Get a life
September 18th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
People expected and understand a rooke GM and rookie head coach like Allen to make mistakes, but it was inexcusable for a rookie head coach like Hue last year to make mistakes??
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No, rookies are going to make rookie mistakes. But there is a big difference between not having a backup long snapper on your roster, and not knowing how to call an opening coin flip. That was a major red flag.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Knapp not finding a way to use Reece and Ausberry is comical.
You would think that after that one MONSTER play Ausberry made, he would get 1 or 5 more immediate looks!
Is there a LB or S in the league that can cover him or Reece?
Be creative for Pete’s sake!!!!
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I think people here have been too hard on Knapp, but I agree there. Ausberry and Reece can each be a LOAD. Use them.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
That makes sense, Duck.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Look at how the DB coach was on the sidelines going bonkers EVERY TIME our corner let that slow arssed white boy (sorry, white folks, lol)
$$$$$$$$$$$
Tim Dwight?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
SaintMcGiver,
Tommy who? Trojan?
No. Why?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
For this week, Knapp should be working on max protection and using the RB’s and TE’s for screens. Take a couple of shots but I really think we need to sustain drives as long as possible and try to tire out the Pitt D. Hopefully we finally get some turnovers and eak out a win.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
O,
Yeah, that was the guy. Man, I hated that guy and was hoping you weren’t him. Now that I think of it he was a big USC fan. If I recall USC is not in Ohio, so……..nevermind.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
O,
I mentioned it because you said the draft was your fav part of the year. That’s all.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Knapp not finding a way to use Reece and Ausberry is comical.
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Well remember a lot of those snaps went to McFadden for no yards. Myers had a good game, Goodson scored one of the few times he got the ball, and then you just got Moore back. That’s alot of guys to keep happy the whole time you are getting no first downs.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
397:
Add raidertbone to the list.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Duck,
We need a speedy pass rusher/ nickel DE. Houston, Shaughnessy, and Crawford lack that initial burst and speed.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Mistic thanks a bunch for calling out Corky, even today said Palmer was a great leader? Great how by never winning or sitting his but on his couch , entire national media called out how awful Palmer looked but oh no he’s the gold standard just ask Corky. He also said Wheeler was a beast and Slowlando looked amazing.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Creativity, Duck.
That’s all I’m looking for from the OC.
You know, to be able to say “that was a nice play call”.
The screen to Goodson was a good play call. Why didn’t we see any more screens?
Can we see any other run other than that stretch play?
How about a counter, or straight dive????
September 18th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Mood in the chat was pretty ugly today. If it were an old west saloon, someone definitely would’ve had a chair broken over their back and Steve would’ve been pushed down the bar and right through a glass window.
This week is easily the most disgusted and distraught I’ve seen the fanbase. And that’s saying something after the series of debacles and double-digit loss seasons we endured from 2003-2009.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Saint,
I never had a problem with the guy. Didn’t he mention that he worked for the org. Ticket sales I think.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
JHill- your right that no other team has signed Plax. Being from Ny, i know the personality . Teams that got burned by TO and Chad Johnson have no interest in taking another risk. Many teams have good #1 WRs and dont need Plax . But I struggle with the arguement that we should have no interest bc that no other team wanted him when i had to watch an UNDRAFTED(which means to me no other team wanted him) ROOKIE WR fumble our first possession against SD and set the tone for the rest of the game.
Once again Plax had 8 tds last year, something no WR has done since 2005 for us. He’s not gonna be expensive and at the very least I bring him in for a workout ..
September 18th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
LOL Saint.
Go Buckeyes!
Damn you Mich!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Chris,
It wouldn’t be this way if we weren’t literally a defensive stop away from hosting a 1st rd. playoff game against Pittsburgh (which we probably would have won..seeing as they were so beat up).
If we just got off a 2-14 season there might be alittle more understanding and acceptance.
But be patient Raider fans…you’re so damn greedy. You wanna be like other teams and win…know your place and stfu right?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Raider O Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Duck,
We need a speedy pass rusher/ nickel DE. Houston, Shaughnessy, and Crawford lack that initial burst and speed.
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I’ve been saying this since we parted with Wimbley. Even though Wimbley didn’t post a ton of sacks last season, he provided that consistent quick pressure off the edge that would force the QB to step up into the push of the rest of our physical d-line.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
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No one reads this blog because it’s a joke.
One guy having a full scale discussion, with himself?
Bizarro-board.
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September 18th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Well remember a lot of those snaps went to McFadden for no yards. Myers had a good game
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When you sit back and look at matchups, Reece and Ausberry vs LBs and Safeties should be something that is a MAJOR part of EVERY game plan.
2 TE sets, 1 WR, and Reece as a FB.
You could motion in to all types of sets with that personel on the field.
CREATIVITY!!!!!
September 18th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Anyone else having problems with andriod ?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Since we had all these guys in today are there any signings????; like Carter for instance?
Did they expect he was somehow gonna come back faster and healthier than the first time he was here?
September 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
#426.
Bite your tongue.
It’s not all the same people.
Oh, BTW, I’m new here. Long time reader first time poster.
Add me to the list.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
fudge the zone. Predicated off of someone blowing their man out. Bring back Heyer.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
We need better play from the players.
Look at how the DB coach was on the sidelines going bonkers EVERY TIME our corner let that slow arssed white boy (sorry, white folks, lol) run that basic 8 yd out. You saw him motioning for the corner to move up. You saw him pleading with the guy (both of those bums) to break on the play he KNEW was coming.
Just one example.
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LOL
I saw it too. If the coach is apoplectic you know the dude is blowin it.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
But I struggle with the arguement that we should have no interest bc that no other team wanted him when i had to watch an UNDRAFTED(which means to me no other team wanted him) ROOKIE WR fumble our first possession against SD and set the tone for the rest of the game.
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I hear you.
I just don’t want Plax AND Hagan.
Plax AND Criner.
Streater over Murphy all day long though.
Moore, DHB, Streater Ausberry and Reece should be MORE than enough.
Some guy named Hartline was all Miami needed, lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
427 J hill right on.So many things we could do. One try preseason running ball in front of goal andf we give up?(anyone see Atlanta line up Dline for blocking?)
September 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
OK, so I went back and looked at all of Meyers snaps for the last 2 games. Sorry fellas, but that dude CANNOT block. He just kinda pushes his man with his hands and then stands there. He is a real liability in the run game.
September 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I was advocating Alex Mack with our 1st pick. Ha!
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I think you and I were the only ones.
We caught a lot of crap for that too, lol.
I’d still do it today!!!!
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I remember it clearly Jhill.
My argument was it wouldn’t matter if we “took him to high” if he became a Pro Bowl player.
That would be all that was remembered. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Carter???
Who gets cut????
We need an OT to replace Barnes and a CB to replace Spencer.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Fudge hartine, all we needed was under over on him. And maybe pick six?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Creativity, Duck.
That’s all I’m looking for from the OC.
You know, to be able to say “that was a nice play call”.
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Creativity would be nice. Having a clue and calling a play that has a chance of gaining a first down would be even nicer.
Let’s put aside the ZBS debate for a moment and just concentrate on Krapp’s playcalling. They are two entirely different issues.
Case in point:
It’s the Raid opening drive of the second half in Miami.
They’re faced with a 3rd and 10.
What does Krapp call ?
He throws a pass to Myers, running virtually parallel to the LOS.
End result ? A gain of 4. Punt time.
This is eerily similar to the play he ran on 3rd and 3 against SD the week before. That play gained 2 yards and the ensuing punt was blocked.
You have to ask yourself – Is Myers going to get 10 YAC ? Was there even a reasonable chance of the play gaining a first down ?
The answer is NO.
Pitiful playcall by a pathetic OC.
There’s a reason the Raids were 1 for 13 on 3rd down conversions – and it’s NOT all the player’s fault.
Fellow Raider fans, we can do better than this. We HAVE to do better than this.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Knapp not finding a way to use Reece and Ausberry is comical.
You would think that after that one MONSTER play Ausberry made, he would get 1 or 5 more immediate looks!
Is there a LB or S in the league that can cover him or Reece?
Be creative for Pete’s sake!!!!
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Aus flashed the WR moves. I like it.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Why is Meyers #1 then?
Blocking is supose to be his up side.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
That was fresh off the no knee Newberry experiment and before we traded for Satele. We LITERALLY didn’t have a center on the roster.
Mack should have been a no brainer.
We are STILL trying to get C fixed, lol. Moved our best OG in years out of his position to try and fix it.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Knapps play calls are predictable.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Meyers = good
Ausberry = good
Reece = good
Goodson = good
DMoore = good
DHB = good
DMac = good
Knapp = crap!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Creativity, Duck.
That’s all I’m looking for from the OC.
You know, to be able to say “that was a nice play call”.
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Creativity would be nice. Having a clue and calling a play that has a chance of gaining a first down would be even nicer.
Let’s put aside the ZBS debate for a moment and just concentrate on Krapp’s playcalling. They are two entirely different issues.
Case in point:
It’s the Raid opening drive of the second half in Miami.
They’re faced with a 3rd and 10.
What does Krapp call ?
He throws a pass to Myers, running virtually parallel to the LOS.
End result ? A gain of 4. Punt time.
This is eerily similar to the play he ran on 3rd and 3 against SD the week before. That play gained 2 yards and the ensuing punt was blocked.
You have to ask yourself – Is Myers going to get 10 YAC ? Was there even a reasonable chance of the play gaining a first down ?
The answer is NO.
Pitiful playcall by a pathetic OC.
There’s a reason the Raids were 1 for 13 on 3rd down conversions – and it’s NOT all the player’s fault.
Fellow Raider fans, we can do better than this. We HAVE to do better than this.
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Gotta throw it to the sticks on 3rd and long. Particularly on your own side of the field.
Gruden used to do that type of thing using John Ritchie on 3rd and 5,6,7…a short 2,3 yard out which Ritchie had to turn up field.
It sometimes worked, but when it didn’t I was pissed.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
It’s the Raid opening drive of the second half in Miami.
They’re faced with a 3rd and 10.
What does Krapp call ?
He throws a pass to Myers, running virtually parallel to the LOS.
End result ? A gain of 4. Punt time.
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I think these “hot reads” are the alternative to taking a sack.
There were 3 OTHER receivers in the pattern that ran routes past the marker, right? Isn’t it on JaCarson that he keeps checking down?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
#444 lmfao
September 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Who did we take that year Mack came out. That was pre-Slowlando, right?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I’m watching LB Philip Wheeler get MANHANDLED from the first minute of the game onward.
Al Davis simply left us with MINIMAL talent on the D side, especially the underappreciated LBs, and we had to go find this guy off the scrap heap.
Sad.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
We need to sign Carter and trade one of our many DTs
LDE – ShoNasty/Toffelson
DT – Houston/Seymour
DT – Bryant/Bilikudi
RDE – Carter/Toffelson
Trade Tommy Kelly
September 18th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
That was fresh off the no knee Newberry experiment and before we traded for Satele. We LITERALLY didn’t have a center on the roster.
Mack should have been a no brainer.
We are STILL trying to get C fixed, lol. Moved our best OG in years out of his position to try and fix it.
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Yep.
I’d used as a part of my argument the long History of Raider centers.
Otto, Dalby, Mosebar, Robbins…
I wanted Mack plugged in for the next 10 years. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Serious question.
If this was Pittsburgh and they had just come off two consecutive 8-8 seasons and whichever Rooney it is who’s in charge now died…and they brought in a “new ” GM and coach, and their team got off to the horrendous start ours has…how do you think the fanbase would react to that?…we’re talking the Steeler fanbase.
Honest opinion how that would be going over right now.
Would they sit back and accept it and agree to be “patient”?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Exactly JHill.
On any pass play you’ll have short, middle, deep routes.
However, the important thing is knowing (which we won’t) who is the #1 receiver for that play, the intended target.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Who did we take that year Mack came out. That was pre-Slowlando, right?
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DHB
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I guess since we are not the hallowed Steelers and we are merely the sad azz Raider fanbase it’s somehow different? “You’re just the Raiders…shut the f up..you’re used to losing” “We’re the Steelers man”.
How would the Steeler fans react to being the 30th ranked team in the league and the butt of every football joke imaginable?
Why we should we be any different? Cuz we’re “just the Raiders”? Bullschytt.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
there are some things you dont expect from a 12mil QB. to go 1 for 12 on 3rd down conversions. To freeze up near the goaline when DMAC was wide open, hold it too long, then lose 4 pts(yes i agree dmac should have caught it anyway but carson wtf), to miss ausberry on a screen that would have went for 30yds, or my biggest issue on 3rd on 6 at our 6 with Dmoore wide open on a slant he could have completed a pass that might have went the distance or at least gave us great field position. instead we punt miami gets great field position scores the goahead td and it all goes downhill from there. Palmer has thrown close to 100 times and has a TD against SD prevent D and a 65yd screen for a TD. Palmer is talented but not sure if he has the IT factor. Carson needs to prove himself over the next 14 games and not be perfect , but know that when its 3rd down hes got to make the completion if its there..
September 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Who did we take that year Mack came out. That was pre-Slowlando, right?
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DHB
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OK, right. I recall pulling for Maualuga that year. I still like him, but have to admit that another USC backer — Matthews — obviously would have been the better pick. Maualuga used to demolish dudes at SC though. Maybe the best collegiate linebacking corps ever: Maualuga, Matthews, Cushing.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Question:
While coaching for San Francisco; is Knapp the one T.O. got in the huge argument with on the sidelines years ago?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
HillbillyHeaven Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
have you ever watched any of them play? flacco cassel and bradford cant move like the wave of the future does. it is an athletic thing, only you and other small minded troglodytes want to make it racial
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so ur saying ur a big fan of tebow and tannehill then, right?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
new post
September 18th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Guess is probably who’ll be cut (then placed on practice squad) to make room for Carter or whomever we sign.
That only accounts for one signing though.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I definite like the idea of having younger, quicker, tougher qbs, no matter black or white, however more important than the physical qualities are the winner genes. A qb could run like a deer, and throw darts 80 yds in the air on target, but if he can’t put his team on his back and win consistently, then it doesn’t matter the laundry list of stats.
Football is a major team sport, but somehow qbs get most of the credit when teams win, and so they should also get the wrath of the fans when they lose. That’s why they get paid like they do.
The same, if Palmer doesn’t get it done get him out of Oaktown.
43 million is not an exaggeration, it’s an aberration to pay someone like Palmer that kind of money, but he got it, good for him, it’s up to him to live with himself stealing the team blind.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I do not share the opinion that we should get DVD back, for me, I could not wait to get rid of him from the moment I saw him. DVD can not cover nor can he tackle, he was always getting burned. Kelly and Seymour should both be sat down or deactivated and make room for new players who want to really be a Raider. Huff is no better. DA should bring in a ton of players and gut most of the non performing defense players now on roster. Be nice if we can get a decent Center and put Lil Wiz back at LG, and look for a new RG, to shore up our O-line. Big part of the team are worthless and should be gutted out from the 53 man roster. If Raiders keep losing, may as well go to the nearest park and bring in street kids who will probably have more football sense and show some Raider Pride and hearth.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Everyone wants to fix it their way but no one has the answer.
Can Allen, Tarver and Reggie stand out in field like PARENTS DO
And pick the BEST 6-8 NFL GUYS for the whole backfield !
SAY THIS: We will pay CASH TO ANY MAN WHO PUTS US IN THE PLAYOFFS AT THE END OF THE YEAR. !
U see how many will be at RAIDER FACILITY AT 6am
September 18th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
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September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
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September 18th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Raider Sam….
I like Pryor and think he’s a good guy but were in the middle of a rebuild and Reggie is going to want his own QB.
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I agree , but will it be Gino Smith or Tyler Wilson? I think it falls to will we admit its a full rebuild with a rookie QB, or just get the shut down corner and hang with Palmer another year.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Mood in the chat was pretty ugly today. If it were an old west saloon, someone definitely would’ve had a chair broken over their back and Steve would’ve been pushed down the bar and right through a glass window.
This week is easily the most disgusted and distraught I’ve seen the fanbase. And that’s saying something after the series of debacles and double-digit loss seasons we endured from 2003-2009.
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Steve was clowning those people right back, though. Lot of frustration out there.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
On the Brunch menu for Sunday morning; burnt toast!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Where is Al Saunders? Isn’t he still with the organization? He knows more about offenses the Greg Knapp. Knapp was garbage when he was here before with Tom Cable, who took away his play calling. Wait until the BYE week and see what happens. Hopefully the Raiders won’t be 0-4.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:59 am
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