Sabol a big reason why you love the NFL
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There are a lot of people with better insight than I about Steve Sabol, who passed away at age 69.
People who knew him better, talked to him regularly, were more involved with the incredible legacy he left along with his father at NFL Films.
I spoke to him a handful of times over the years, working on one story or another. The one I remember most was in around 2000, when Jon Gruden was all the rage and NFL Films had done some great work showing “Chucky” to the masses.
I told him I would only take a few minutes of his time, and it turned out to be closer to half-an-hour _ an eternity for most newspaper interviews where you’re basically looking for a few quotes to fill out a story.
The story had to do with how big Gruden had become with all the facial expressions and sideline theatrics. Talked to players, people in the advertising business about Gruden’s marketability, the whole deal.
Sabol was easily the most fun to talk to and the most illuminating. “The way I see Jon Gruden is like he’s a lion tamer, and he snaps his whip and the cats are on the stools.”
He told me Gruden was the most telegenic and one of the most charismatic coaches he’d ever filmed.
Remember thinking at the time I could easily envision the “cats are on the stools” line being being included in an NFL Films piece.“ Sure enough, at one point, it happened.
Sabol was surprised how easy it was to put Gruden on a microphone and get virtually unlimited access. A lot of that had to do with Gruden, who loved the attention, but I’m sure Al Davis knew it was happening and signed off because of who was handling it.
It was Sabol, after all, who penned “The Autumn Wind is a Raider,” which essentially became a club anthem and is played with regularity at the Coliseum.
Nobody cared more about the legacy of the Raiders and the NFL than Davis, and so many of the works of NFL Films were priceless in glorifying the brand.
During our phone coversation, and one or two that followed, Sabol was always curious about Davis, the organization, how it was functioning. It was his job to chronicle the NFL and the work he and his father did through NFL Films in promoting their sport is unmatched in the annals of sport.
With highlights, results and everything about the NFL essentially available with the touch of a keystroke, NFL Films still gets great access and does good work but it can’t possibly have the kind of impact it had while the Sabols were introducing what would become the quintessential American sport to the public.
Any historical perspective on the NFL includes Steve Sabol as major player.
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September 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I’m watching LB Philip Wheeler get MANHANDLED from the first minute of the game onward.
Al Davis simply left us with MINIMAL talent on the D side, especially the underappreciated LBs, and we had to go find this guy off the scrap heap.
Sad.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Two is the draft pick we don’t have.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Three is the number of decent players on our entire offense (Moore, DMac, CP).
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Four. How many games we win this year.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Five. We’ll have a top-5 pick in April!
OLB? QB? DE?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
We took DHB instead of Mack.
I wanted Mack, Maulauga, or Orakpo.
DHB over Crabtree if we were going WR.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Reggie is just trying to get through the year with a minimal investment. Too many bloated contracts, no draft picks, and no money.
It stinks. Another crappy a$$ year.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Six. Number of draft picks we have for next April.
We need OLBs, OL, DE, CB, QB, and a TE.
yikes.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Sabol a big reason why you love the NFL There are a lot of people with better insight than I about Steve Sabol, who passed away at age 69. [...]
September 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
wheres beeech dawg?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Ok, Len.
Let’s try it again.
This time, I’m lobbying hard for a monster anchor for our DL.
Seymour is gone after this year, and Kelly is old, if nothing else.
Houston and Bryant are decent, but we need a damn hog on the DL.
We need a DT with our 1st pick in the next draft.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Free agent $ we save with Seymour’s expiring contract needs to be spent on a LEGIT corner, and we need to draft another one with our 3rd rd pick.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RIP S Sabol.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Raiderbuck
you understand football. Nice to see these types around here
September 18th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
No Sabols in the NFL is just plain wrong!
September 18th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
HillbillyHeaven Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
have you ever watched any of them play? flacco cassel and bradford cant move like the wave of the future does. it is an athletic thing, only you and other small minded troglodytes want to make it racial
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so ur saying ur a big fan of tebow and tannehill then, right?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
J,
DT?
It’s DE or CB.
We need a speedy pass rusher.
LDE: Shaughnessy
DT: Houston
DT: Bryant
RDE: 1st round pick
We can add a NT in later Rounds.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
The Texans are once again a top-5 D.
They lost Mario Williams.
They still run a 3-4.
As do the Ravens, Niners, Chargers… again
September 18th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
lol
Can we draft an OC with the 1st rounder?
FIRST DMAC CARRY of the Dolphins game. DEREK HAGAN has to try and block a DE, who pushes him aside, works down the line, and tackles DMac for no gain.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
there are some things you dont expect from a 12mil QB. to go 1 for 12 on 3rd down conversions. To freeze up near the goaline when DMAC was wide open, hold it too long, then lose 4 pts(yes i agree dmac should have caught it anyway but carson wtf), to miss ausberry on a screen that would have went for 30yds, or my biggest issue on 3rd on 6 at our 6 with Dmoore wide open on a slant he could have completed a pass that might have went the distance or at least gave us great field position. instead we punt miami gets great field position scores the goahead td and it all goes downhill from there. Palmer has thrown close to 100 times and has a TD against SD prevent D and a 65yd screen for a TD. Palmer is talented but not sure if he has the IT factor. Carson needs to prove himself over the next 14 games and not be perfect , but know that when its 3rd down hes got to make the completion if its there..
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I know alot of successful football coaches who dont know jack about the NFL.
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i’m pretty sure u don’t know “a lot of football coaches”.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Steve Sabol was the man. A true artist.
I’d love to see him go into the Hall of Fame soon.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
we need a playmaker on D in next years draft, someone who can sack the QB or actually jump a route
September 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Run a 3-4.
Draft pass-rushing terror in 1st round.
Draft huge NT in 3rd round.
Draft CB and OL after that.
Change OC.
Win 9 games next year.
(or if palmer isn’t long-term answer, get your 1st round QB and win 9 games in 2014.)
September 18th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Who did we take that year Mack came out. That was pre-Slowlando, right?
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DHB
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OK, right. I recall pulling for Maualuga that year. I still like him, but have to admit that another USC backer — Matthews — obviously would have been the better pick. Maualuga used to demolish dudes at SC though. Maybe the best collegiate linebacking corps ever: Maualuga, Matthews, Cushing.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Ok, Len.
Let’s try it again.
This time, I’m lobbying hard for a monster anchor for our DL.
Seymour is gone after this year, and Kelly is old, if nothing else.
Houston and Bryant are decent, but we need a damn hog on the DL.
We need a DT with our 1st pick in the next draft.
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Agree about Seymour and Kelly, they have to be replaced.
I like Bryant a lot, Houston TBD.
We have a lot of holes on the D.
If I knew for certain that we could get that 1 guy at DT that could put an end to our crappy run D…I’m in.
We still need CB’s and a Rush end.
I’d resign Wheeler for sure.
I feel like a guy trying to plug 20 holes with 10 fingers. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
EVERY gm and coach in the nfl would take dhb and moore over plaxico without question
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and you know this bc your a high school coach?lol…moore is a talent to be determined. i agree I would take moore long term over plax. But when we are in the redzone or its 3rd and 5..id take plax over dhb everyday of the week..i know I’m not a GM so who cares. Criner and streeter are the next versions of murphy and chaz. they most likely wont be here 2 years from. If we want to improve in the red zone, plax would help us ..he had 8tds last year, thats double moore or dhb
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the high school coach comment was in regards to something else. but plax is available and has been. no one wants him. and the gm’s of this league know far more about football than ur whole family. and if we dropped moore or dhb, every single gm would want them. proof that they are better st this stage of their careers than burress. he’s washed up.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
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yeah mistic. the country is really still there. aren’t they? only u and a bunch of “victims” down at the soup kitchen still making those comments.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
OK, right. I recall pulling for Maualuga that year. I still like him, but have to admit that another USC backer — Matthews — obviously would have been the better pick. Maualuga used to demolish dudes at SC though. Maybe the best collegiate linebacking corps ever: Maualuga, Matthews, Cushing.
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I’d like that package over here.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
EVERY gm and coach in the nfl would take dhb and moore over plaxico without question
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who said to cut dhb or moore? plax would be a 3rd wR who would have a good role in the red zone for us..its not worth a workout ?
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how many workouts has he had? TO, ocho, plax. they’re WASHED UP! might as well consider signing jerry rice, tim brown, and lynn swann.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I want a HC who will go for it on 4th and 1 near midfield when we’re playing a bad team like Miami, in a place most west-coast teams lose anyways.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
How come we aren’t seeing any 3-4 yet this yr.?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RIP Steve Sabol. thanks.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
some fans just spit out names of the few players they actually have heard of.
Criner. Streater. They will be developed for future use or to know they need to be replaced.
Signing Plax is a backwards thinking as the Seymoure trade was.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
you brought up race, i did not
hence you have the problem
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u bring up race in practically every post. i was simply saying “enuff”.
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actually i dont. I only talk about players and you and others immediately look to see what race they are.
Im sure you would not do that if i were talking about a running back, or receiver, or linebacker.
You only have a problem because the black player is a qb. get over it bra, black people can vote, drink at any fountain we want, and we dont have to bend or scratch where we do not itch.
your fault not mine
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wrong stupid. u ONLY discuss black qb’s and how great they are and how nad white qb’s are.
here’s a challenge that i bet u won’t take:
name some bad black qb’s. i dare u.
and name some good white qb’s.
i bet u can’t stand to do it.
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are you drunk or just stupid?
please show me where i posted “how bad white qbs are”
i will humor you even thoguh this kind of trash is beneath me.
spergyn wynn, vince evans, vince young, leftwich, bad qbs regardless of thier color
montana young elway plunkett, great qbs
you are an idiot
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i’m proud of u mistic! u did it! of course u could only mention the most obvious candidates.
how about jamarcus russell and jason campbell? hmm? can u admit it? or were they never given the chance that wynn, evans young, and leftwich were?
how about matt ryan, alex smith, and sam bradford? all rank ahead of rg3 in qb rating? can u admit they’re good?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mullet Mark has ZERO idea what the heck he is doing…
Hiring ‘Mumbles’ err Reggie is going to haunt us.
How many retired linebackers have made successful GM’s?
We know of 1 who failed miserably…
September 18th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Nyraider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
EVERY gm and coach in the nfl would take dhb and moore over plaxico without question
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and you know this bc your a high school coach?lol…moore is a talent to be determined. i agree I would take moore long term over plax. But when we are in the redzone or its 3rd and 5..id take plax over dhb everyday of the week..i know I’m not a GM so who cares. Criner and streeter are the next versions of murphy and chaz. they most likely wont be here 2 years from. If we want to improve in the red zone, plax would help us ..he had 8tds last year, thats double moore or dhb
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the high school coach comment was in regards to something else. but plax is available and has been. no one wants him. and the gm’s of this league know far more about football than ur whole family. and if we dropped moore or dhb, every single gm would want them. proof that they are better st this stage of their careers than burress. he’s washed up.
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Plax is out of football for non talent related reasons right now. Some teams have been burned by the chad johnsons and TOs, other are all set with their red zone receivers. It 3rd and goal from the 7 on Sunday. Youd want DHB going after the pass instead of Plax? This is a prime example of overating your own player. Plax had 8tds last year, DHB 4..doesnt sound like Plax is washed up to me..
September 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Dr Rob
There’s been many a conversations in here on whether Black QB’s could even play the game.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
The Advice Mark should have been given was,
hire a President of Football OPS,
and let that guy hire the GM.
He’s not a ‘football guy’ just cause his dad was…
Had he ever interviewed anyone for an employment position, anywhere, ever?
It sure seems like he didn’t and took the easy way out by hiring Reggie on the advice of 2 retirees… There goes the Raiders
September 18th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
beeechy dawg come home and taste what you like.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Geno Smith sure can play the college game. Cant wait to see how it translates to the NFL
September 18th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
some fans just spit out names of the few players they actually have heard of.
Criner. Streater. They will be developed for future use or to know they need to be replaced.
Signing Plax is a backwards thinking as the Seymoure trade was.
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ive seen Plax play alot being from NY , but here’s to hoping Criner and Streater are not the next Murphy and Chaz. Plax had 8tds last year. It been since 2005 since a raider wr had 8 tds.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
There were 3 OTHER receivers in the pattern that ran routes past the marker, right? Isn’t it on JaCarson that he keeps checking down?
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JaCarson ? That’s racist ! LOL.
Yes, if CP isn’t looking for his WR’s past the sticks (which should be his first read)and is electing to checkdown instead – or if he’s unwilling to hold the rock a half second longer, or is unable to take a step to avoid the rush – then that’s on Palmer.
But on the play against SD the week before, it certainly looked like Myers was his first read.
In the first half against Mia, the 3rd and 8 failed conversion to DHB – it looked like DHB (way short of the chains) was his primary.
It’s not like these throws short of the sticks are EXCEPTIONS. Rather, they seem to be the NORM.
Is part of the problem JaCarson liking to checkdown ?
Maybe. That hasn’t been a problem in the past though. The gunslinger would rather throw a pick than check it down.
I maintain that Krapp is a bigger part of the problem and that the consistent throwing short of the sticks is prima facia evidence of his ineptitude as a play caller and why he’s a Krapp OC.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Raiders’ top players on offence:
Mr. Moore
Mr. Vehldeer
Mr. Wisniewski
Mr. Reece
Mr. McFadden
Mr. Palmer
In this order.
Honorable mention (proving potential):
Mr. Streater
Mr. Ausberry
September 18th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Dr Rob
There’s been many a conversations in here on whether Black QB’s could even play the game.
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The QB I want is one that is Football Smart, accurate on all of the throws, and can use his legs when needed.
Has to be a leader of men as well.
Where he comes from, or what he looks like, is of no concern.
Can I have some RGIII or Luck please?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
We took DHB instead of Mack.
I wanted Mack, Maulauga, or Orakpo.
DHB over Crabtree if we were going WR.
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You know I gotta say something here. What a damm shame we shamefully passed on Pro-Bowler BJ Raji for speedy DHB, a receiver who adds little value for where he was picked.
If Raji, we don’t have to WASTE a 1st rounder on Seymour and have the DT position wrapped up for the next 10 years.
Oh well
September 18th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
We took DHB instead of Mack.
I wanted Mack, Maulauga, or Orakpo.
DHB over Crabtree if we were going WR.
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You know I gotta say something here. What a damm shame we shamefully passed on Pro-Bowler BJ Raji for speedy DHB, a receiver who adds little value for where he was picked.
If Raji, we don’t have to WASTE a 1st rounder on Seymour and have the DT position wrapped up for the next 10 years.
Oh well
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True. Raji has been a nice player.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mullet Mark has ZERO idea what the heck he is doing…
Hiring ‘Mumbles’ err Reggie is going to haunt us.
How many retired linebackers have made successful GM’s?
We know of 1 who failed miserably…
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LMAO
September 18th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Raiders’ top players on defense:
Uhmm …
Uhh…
Just a minute I’m thinking…
Umm…
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
We took DHB instead of Mack.
I wanted Mack, Maulauga, or Orakpo.
DHB over Crabtree if we were going WR.
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You know I gotta say something here. What a damm shame we shamefully passed on Pro-Bowler BJ Raji for speedy DHB, a receiver who adds little value for where he was picked.
If Raji, we don’t have to WASTE a 1st rounder on Seymour and have the DT position wrapped up for the next 10 years.
Oh well
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If we ran a 3-4 Raji perfect but in our 4-3 scheme i question it
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
With the first pick of the 2013 draft the Oakland Raiders select…
Reggie will trade down unless there’s a franchise QB or an absolutely can’t miss stud that he can’t resist.
Otherwise, there are just too many holes on this roster to fill.
And Reggie loves his draft picks.
The question is whether he’ll make the most of them.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Carson Palmer has to win games and make the throws when it matters…on 3rd down…and be consistent on hitting the open receiver on the mid and long throws that punish a defense.
Just rolling up stats with no real productivity behind them is not good at all….
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Raiders’ top players on defense:
Uhmm …
Uhh…
Just a minute I’m thinking…
Umm…
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Seymour and Kelly?
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Thanks for the memories Sabol.
Thanks for the memories Raider Nation bloggers. The emotional investment has had no return for too long. I must detach. This sh*t aint even fun anymore.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Could’ve had Fitzgerald over Gallery,
Megatron or Peterson over he who will not be mentioned,
Aaron Rogers over Fabian Washington.
Cudda, shudda, wudda
September 18th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
If we ran a 3-4 Raji perfect but in our 4-3 scheme i question it
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If we had Raji, we could run the 3-4. Nose tackle is tough piece to find for that scheme.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Carson Palmer has to win games and make the throws when it matters…on 3rd down…and be consistent on hitting the open receiver on the mid and long throws that punish a defense.
Just rolling up stats with no real productivity behind them is not good at all….
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Most stats are BS and dont tell the whole story
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
One could argue Bryant has been better and more productive than Kelly and Seymour.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Raider J Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Thanks for the memories Sabol.
Thanks for the memories Raider Nation bloggers. The emotional investment has had no return for too long. I must detach. This sh*t aint even fun anymore.
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We just gonna have to endure brotha….plain and simple. I hate what is happening too
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
First pick in the draft HAS TO be an elite edge rusher, Von Miller type, or one of these beastly SEC safeties, this Barron kids look major legit in Tampa.
Enough trying to get at the passer from the edge with Houston (hasn’t been playing much lately). Notice Tollegson has been playing more, simply because he can bring heat to the pocket quicker.
As far as safety, did that ridiculous play from Branch confirm an upgraded needed there? WTF was that?
And enough with this move Huff to DB, or FS or slot corner. How about we just move him PERIOD, since he can’t play any of those worth an ish.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
With the first pick of the 2013 draft the Oakland Raiders select…
Reggie will trade down unless there’s a franchise QB or an absolutely can’t miss stud that he can’t resist.
Otherwise, there are just too many holes on this roster to fill.
And Reggie loves his draft picks.
The question is whether he’ll make the most of them.
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I for one certainly hope he trades down. Although its a young season, I don’t see any franchise number one picks yet. And the 63 picks after number one is a long ways to fill all our holes with a third rounder.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
One could argue Bryant has been better and more productive than Kelly and Seymour.
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I think Bryant is a backup…but he gives it his all. I cant say the same for Kelly and Seymour
September 18th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
JaCarson? Give me a break, please. Did JaMarcus ever even have a 300-yard game with us? Ludicrous.
September 18th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
One could argue Bryant has been better and more productive than Kelly and Seymour.
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Love Bryant’s motor.
Kelly says Bryant is strongest player, pound for pound.
Tarver needs to play whomever is productive. To hell with status and salary.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Look at the Brew crew creeping up for the last WC.
It says here they pass up STL and LA and grab it out of nowhere.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
First pick in the draft HAS TO be an elite edge rusher, Von Miller type, or one of these beastly SEC safeties, this Barron kids look major legit in Tampa.
Enough trying to get at the passer from the edge with Houston (hasn’t been playing much lately). Notice Tollegson has been playing more, simply because he can bring heat to the pocket quicker.
As far as safety, did that ridiculous play from Branch confirm an upgraded needed there? WTF was that?
And enough with this move Huff to DB, or FS or slot corner. How about we just move him PERIOD, since he can’t play any of those worth an ish.
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Huff is worse than Kelly and Seymour combined. Let’s talk about garbage. He talked schit on Al scheme and he still sucks in another scheme….but someone will find a way to blame it on Al. 7 year vet and see how many TD plays are made on him whether tackling or covering. He has the heart of a mouse out there. Hey I feel ya if you dont wanna get hit or hurt….get off the field. You stealing money and time. Another overpaid guy who brings little to nothing week to week
September 18th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
JaCarson? Give me a break, please. Did JaMarcus ever even have a 300-yard game with us? Ludicrous.
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It might have been a reference to JAson Campbell.
Mr. checkdown. idk.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
They should humble Huff and make him go cover kicks and punts again.
It was probably the one thing he borderline “Excelled” at in his time here.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
We’ve been excited over draft picks last couple of years, no first rounders not withstanding. How many are still on roster?
Cut/traded:
McFadden (the other one)
DVD
Chekwa (practice squad at least)
Ware
Campbell
Stupar
Ford (IR)
Others???
September 18th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
One could argue Bryant has been better and more productive than Kelly and Seymour.
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Love Bryant’s motor.
Kelly says Bryant is strongest player, pound for pound.
Tarver needs to play whomever is productive. To hell with status and salary.
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Sup Mr Lenny? Long time bruh
September 18th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Russell never had a 3 TD game let alone a 300 yard passing game
September 18th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Reggie will need a gazillion draft picks to try to fix the D.
CB is probably the most pressing need.
Then, as you guys always mention, we need an edge rusher at DE.
In this thread we’re talking about replacing the DTs.
Not to mention the fact that Slo might have to be replaced.
And don’t forget the invisible man Mike(no impact)Huff.
When you look at it realistically, there just aren’t enough picks available to redo this unit.
Going to have to get help through free agency as well.
And after all this – there’s still the needs on Offense to address.
This is a daunting task.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
The D has a distinct lack of players that have a nose for the ball.
Zero playmakers.
Maybe Wheeler or Burris can be those Guys, but nothing yet.
Certainly nothing in the DB squad though Gio has flashed though he’s limited.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Did Jamarcus ever have 250 yards in a game?
Eli threw for that IN THE 4TH QUARTER this past weekend.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Method,
Looking back on draft picks gone by isn’t a healthy discussion anyway.
But Carson Palmer is p&ssin me off. He is not coming through when it matters. Defenses are slamming the run game and our o-line is struggling mightily with run blocking.
This situation demands Carson to “CARRY” the team on his back. My man is straight missing throws when it counts…and that’s what he’s being paid for. That’s the difference between a “guy” and a so-called elite QB.
Carson has always been good at running up numbers…but he can’t win games…and right now the team needs him to carry the water for the coaches and the running game and he is no where to be found…just rolling up stats in the 4th QTR or 1 big pass on a drive that sputters
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
CB is probably the most pressing need.
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Tried to tell everybody this offseason.
I stand by my claim of assembling a “poo-poo platter” of DB’s.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
You guys are talking draft and we have no idea whatsoever on where were gonna pick.
This is a ton of speculation only 2 wks. into the season.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Nice story Jer.! Thanks a Million!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
One could argue Bryant has been better and more productive than Kelly and Seymour.
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Love Bryant’s motor.
Kelly says Bryant is strongest player, pound for pound.
Tarver needs to play whomever is productive. To hell with status and salary.
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Sup Mr Lenny? Long time bruh
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Hey B, I’m in and out.
Not liking what I’ve seen as of late.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
What up Raider fans!
Not completely ready to write off this season, but… Jeez we sure did look schitty. What is up with DMac? Is it our OLine or does the ZBS truly suck? And no secondary. Or run D. Or coaching
Put me on the Knapp list please
September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
75,
I agree with you, and i’ve always been a huge Palmer fan.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Hey there Plunk…long time no see. Good to see ya.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Apparently we can get all the players we need to “make us a better football team” off the waiver wire and by working out all these out of work undrafted/released scrubs! This is what really disturbs me.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Reggie will need a gazillion draft picks to try to fix the D.
CB is probably the most pressing need.
Then, as you guys always mention, we need an edge rusher at DE.
In this thread we’re talking about replacing the DTs.
Not to mention the fact that Slo might have to be replaced.
And don’t forget the invisible man Mike(no impact)Huff.
When you look at it realistically, there just aren’t enough picks available to redo this unit.
Going to have to get help through free agency as well.
And after all this – there’s still the needs on Offense to address.
This is a daunting task.
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I wont cry if McClain leaves or anyone on that defense for all I give a damn….I mean everyone can go. We do not have the players on defense to win week to week and year to year. No way anyone on this blog can tell me that.
Offense? Well as long as Knapp is there we aint seeing an offense.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
O,
Sure we can get “A” NT in the later rounds.
But we can’t get a MONSTER 3 down NT in the later rounds.
I think we are going to the 3-4. Or should I say more 3 DL sets.
I think we can get an OLB in rd 3 that can get after it just fine.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
JaCarson? Give me a break, please. Did JaMarcus ever even have a 300-yard game with us? Ludicrous.
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Who cares….JaBustus is a known loser.
300yd game? so-what
Just win Baby!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Solid, simplest, and greatest immediate impact-Raiders definitely need to go with best pass rushing specialist, even willing to move up as long as it doesn’t cost us additional first rounders.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
its easy to be duck…”wait three to four years…then we can see if reggie is good..” sorry 3-4 more years of losing is not ok…especially when sl had them so close to winning again….
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Sup J! what’s going on?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
What up Goldie.. yeah, I been letting real life take away from my Raider time. lol
September 18th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
CB is probably the most pressing need.
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Tried to tell everybody this offseason.
I stand by my claim of assembling a “poo-poo platter” of DB’s.
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Not dissing you, but it hardly makes you clairvoyant. I think it’s been quite obvious and everyones been screaming it since Nnamdi walked.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
You didn’t miss a thing Plunk.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
CB is probably the most pressing need.
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Tried to tell everybody this offseason.
I stand by my claim of assembling a “poo-poo platter” of DB’s.
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And now the poo poo has hit the fan.
I was down with redoing the cb’s that would best fit Tarver’s scheme, and Reggie’s budget, but whatever “quality” we had with Bartell and Spencer is now on the shelf.
Fuuuk.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Method,
Looking back on draft picks gone by isn’t a healthy discussion anyway.
But Carson Palmer is p&ssin me off. He is not coming through when it matters. Defenses are slamming the run game and our o-line is struggling mightily with run blocking.
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… And pass blocking. Carson usually has a wall of bodies crashing into him by the time he’s ready to throw. And he’s still put up pretty good numbers so far.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Hey B.. thanks again bro.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
#83….but reggie lovers will say he has no money…like al never manipulated the salary cap…
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
75,
I agree with you, and i’ve always been a huge Palmer fan.
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Carson is certainly capable and has the tools.
He’s just gotta find it in him to just take over, there are enough weapons on the field…..I can’t describe it..but I know it when I see it and we’ve all seen it for top tier QBs…..
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
“had them so close to winning again”
Ponder that for a moment.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Solid, simplest, and greatest immediate impact-Raiders definitely need to go with best pass rushing specialist, even willing to move up as long as it doesn’t cost us additional first rounders.
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True…however, in my opinion, the Raiders have weak spots that litter the roster that the best draft strategy is simply to take the best player available.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
yeah alex keep hoping to win in 3-4 years reggie bootlicker
September 18th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Pro-Bowler BJ Raji for speedy DHB
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Raji is a pro bowler because of his team mates.
Put DHB on Green Bay amd Raji on the Raiders the past few years and you’d be saying what a damn shame Davis went against himself and didn’t draft the fast guy.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Midseason or this offseason, would like to see Reggie cut/trade:
Seymour
Kelly
McClain
Heyward-Bey
Huff
Palmer
Leinart
Barksdale
Brisiel
Houston (or be moved to DT)
Janokowski
Lechler
Get what draft picks we can clear cap space for our future.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Method,
Looking back on draft picks gone by isn’t a healthy discussion anyway.
But Carson Palmer is p&ssin me off. He is not coming through when it matters. Defenses are slamming the run game and our o-line is struggling mightily with run blocking.
This situation demands Carson to “CARRY” the team on his back. My man is straight missing throws when it counts…and that’s what he’s being paid for. That’s the difference between a “guy” and a so-called elite QB.
Carson has always been good at running up numbers…but he can’t win games…and right now the team needs him to carry the water for the coaches and the running game and he is no where to be found…just rolling up stats in the 4th QTR or 1 big pass on a drive that sputters
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Of course he is missing passes…no comfort in that system. Carson Palmer was elite until his knee got destroyed I’ll admit but that was Jan 2006 people. Who would dare say he is elite? But its still an ugly situation. I was doing my usual keep it on up and up but we have evidence of him in the WCO. Not ever gonna look good doing this. How Reggie McKenzie allows to go on is the real tragedy
September 18th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
JaCarson? Give me a break, please. Did JaMarcus ever even have a 300-yard game with us? Ludicrous
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LOL!
My bad, Chris.
Just effin’ with 99.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Reno Aces are Triple-A National Champs. We actually have a nice little ballpark up here.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Wassup Goldie?
Tebow out of the league yet?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Method,
Looking back on draft picks gone by isn’t a healthy discussion anyway.
But Carson Palmer is p&ssin me off. He is not coming through when it matters. Defenses are slamming the run game and our o-line is struggling mightily with run blocking.
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… And pass blocking. Carson usually has a wall of bodies crashing into him by the time he’s ready to throw. And he’s still put up pretty good numbers so far.
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Chris,
You know that Miller Lite commericial where the guy voices over after showing a guy acting a clown and says “Man up!”
That’s what Carson has to do. Find the read and get the ball out quickly. There have been plenty of examples of QBs getting their azz beat down and still finding a way.
Aaron Rogers was sacked 5x last week….how many times has Big Ben taken shots and gutted out wins..
Carson has to get on with it and prove he’s the man.
The o-line isn’t THAT BAD in pass blocking and he is mostly getting time.
Hit the passes when it counts
September 18th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Nah J….Tebow about to take over for Sanchez. Watch and see.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RIP Mr. Steve Sabol. A true artist.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
But we can’t get a MONSTER 3 down NT in the later rounds.
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Too much boom or bust from these big NT’s taken up high in the first round.
I’ll take a NT in the 3rd round or later, especially if we are just looking for a run-clogger.
The Vince Wilfork’s only come once a generation, chances are we would end up with Dan Williams or that dude the Chiefs just drafted.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
“had us close to winning”
Read: Not had us winning. Had us “close” to winning. Uh, ok.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Thankfully Reggie signed all of our CBs to one year contracts, not committed to paper weights for the next few years, really wished he had not extended palmer seymour huff.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Reno Aces are Triple-A National Champs. We actually have a nice little ballpark up here.
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That’s whats up
September 18th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
All about the Sac River Cats. A’s AAA team.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
You got nothing on Isotopes park, lol.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Just got done reading Corkran’s chat from earlier…
Pay attention to the following comments from various bloggers….but more interestingly, listen to Steve Corkran’s response:
1)
a)Steve, do you adapt players to fit the scheme or draw up the scheme around the player? Especially on offense.by David 1:27 PM
b)You draw up the scheme to fit the players talents.by scorkran 1:27 PM
2)
a)Hey Cork, it feels like Reggie and Dennis Allen just hired their friends and relatvies into important positions without proven tack records..for example, Reggie’s brother who was a special ed teacher before this..can you comment on this?
by Alan 1:52 PM
b)You aren’t alone in that belief. I will reserve judgment until I see what happens beyond this season.
by scorkran 1:53 PM
3)
a)Rod Woodson and Bill R just said on 95.7 the game that we will go 0-5. Also Rod Woodson said Chekwa has bad hips for a Corner. In addition everyone incl Papa were dissing the ZBS.. This season is officially done. 2-14 or 3-13
by Vijay 1:59 PM
b)I have my reservations about the zone-blocking scheme working as well as the Raiders envision.
by scorkran 2:00 PM
and last but not least:
4)
a)Coaching 101. Call plays that put your players in the best position to make plays
by TJ2K 1:28 PM
b)That’s what Hue Jackson and Al Saunders excelled at.
by scorkran 1:28 PM
Now read that and then make all the moronic excuses you want for this pathetic performance this season…
But every honest, sincere lover of the Silver & Black can see that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp are telling the band to keep on playing while everyone else is screaming at them that the Titanic is sinking!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Tebow would’ve been an excellent Raider!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Dodgers still have a farm team in Bakersfield? Or is it Rancho Cucomonga?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Pro-Bowler BJ Raji for speedy DHB
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Raji is a pro bowler because of his team mates.
Put DHB on Green Bay amd Raji on the Raiders the past few years and you’d be saying what a damn shame Davis went against himself and didn’t draft the fast guy.
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I disagree. Cream rises. DHB has been given good coaching and the opportunity..he has to seize it.
Al Davis caught a lot of slack yet players developed an excelled right up to his passing.
Guys like D. Moore, Shaughnessy, Houston, Veldheer, D.Moore and I believe Wiz is going to be a good player. DMAC was making moves until the B.S foisted on him by Dennis Allen.
Al Davis gave players more than enough chances to succeed. Sure, DHB shouldn’t have been drafted in the 1st round…but doggone….the guy is yet to really take off. Still making excuses and talking about the guy like he’s a rook.
He needs to get his head out just like Carson. DHB needs to look more like AJ Green, Victor Cruz, Julio Jones.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Method,
Looking back on draft picks gone by isn’t a healthy discussion anyway.
But Carson Palmer is p&ssin me off. He is not coming through when it matters. Defenses are slamming the run game and our o-line is struggling mightily with run blocking.
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… And pass blocking. Carson usually has a wall of bodies crashing into him by the time he’s ready to throw. And he’s still put up pretty good numbers so far.
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Chris,
You know that Miller Lite commericial where the guy voices over after showing a guy acting a clown and says “Man up!”
That’s what Carson has to do. Find the read and get the ball out quickly. There have been plenty of examples of QBs getting their azz beat down and still finding a way.
Aaron Rogers was sacked 5x last week….how many times has Big Ben taken shots and gutted out wins..
Carson has to get on with it and prove he’s the man.
The o-line isn’t THAT BAD in pass blocking and he is mostly getting time.
Hit the passes when it counts
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You asking him to do something he cant do. He will never be the man and take it on his back for us to win a game. The first SD game was the ingredient how to use Palmer. He passed 20 times in the game and we downhill pound the rock. How this can still be ignored is baffling
September 18th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Where else can one intersection bring you the AAA All-star game, the New Mexico Bowl, and a top 25 NCAA hoops team at the Pit?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
The first SD game was the ingredient how to use Palmer. He passed 20 times in the game and we downhill pound the rock. How this can still be ignored is baffling.
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Its freakin unbelievable…smh
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
But we can’t get a MONSTER 3 down NT in the later rounds.
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Too much boom or bust from these big NT’s taken up high in the first round.
I’ll take a NT in the 3rd round or later, especially if we are just looking for a run-clogger.
The Vince Wilfork’s only come once a generation, chances are we would end up with Dan Williams or that dude the Chiefs just drafted.
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Each year is different and each player is different. To say you don’t take a position in a certain round is wrong.
If the guy grades out as a beast, go get him…I don’t care what position he plays…..and Dan Williams is performing just fine after some growing pains.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Thankfully Reggie signed all of our CBs to one year contracts, not committed to paper weights for the next few years, really wished he had not extended palmer seymour huff.
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Aside from Huff, not sure he extended any of these players.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Minor league baseball is true Americana. Everyone should hit a minor league game every now and then.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
ONCE MORE FOR EMPHASIS…
1)
a)Steve, do you adapt players to fit the scheme or draw up the scheme around the player? Especially on offense.by David 1:27 PM
b)You draw up the scheme to fit the players talents.by scorkran 1:27 PM
2)
a)Hey Cork, it feels like Reggie and Dennis Allen just hired their friends and relatvies into important positions without proven tack records..for example, Reggie’s brother who was a special ed teacher before this..can you comment on this?
by Alan 1:52 PM
b)You aren’t alone in that belief. I will reserve judgment until I see what happens beyond this season.
by scorkran 1:53 PM
3)
a)Rod Woodson and Bill R just said on 95.7 the game that we will go 0-5. Also Rod Woodson said Chekwa has bad hips for a Corner. In addition everyone incl Papa were dissing the ZBS.. This season is officially done. 2-14 or 3-13
by Vijay 1:59 PM
b)I have my reservations about the zone-blocking scheme working as well as the Raiders envision.
by scorkran 2:00 PM
and last but not least:
4)
a)Coaching 101. Call plays that put your players in the best position to make plays
by TJ2K 1:28 PM
b)That’s what Hue Jackson and Al Saunders excelled at.
by scorkran 1:28 PM
Every honest, sincere lover of the Silver & Black can see that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp are telling the band to keep on playing while everyone else is screaming at them that the Titanic is sinking!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I wont cry if McClain leaves or anyone on that defense for all I give a damn….I mean everyone can go. We do not have the players on defense to win week to week and year to year. No way anyone on this blog can tell me that.
Offense? Well as long as Knapp is there we aint seeing an offense.
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Yeah, I agree. Knapp’s got to go and there’s not much that’s going to remain on defense when this is done.
Offense might need less work than we think, once Krapp gets canned (and I guarantee he will be), but there’s still the elephant in the room sized question of how long the Raids can go with CP.
Once all the holes are filled – and there’s a ton of them – we’re still faced with reality that this team is going to need a franchise QB to have a realistic shot at winning some Lombardis.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
DHB has improved for sure but he isnt one of the top 20 WRs in the league still. Again we asking him to be great and he just doesnt have what it takes to do it. Not natural out there and many notice it. Still I think this offense makes him look even worse
September 18th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Method,
I hear what your saying. But the Dennis Allen’s B.S system has shut down the running game.
So now what?
If Carson can’t be more than a game manager…then they should turn the keys over to TP or Leinart.
I am not sure that o-line and zbs is going to get fixed anytime soon.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Coming off two straight 8-8 seasons…Jerry Jones dies and a new regime is put in.
How does the Cowboy fan base react to a 3-5 yr. “rebuild’ scenario and being told to be “patient” after being blown out at home to Philly and getting blown out by…let’s say…St. Louis?
Everything fine in Cowboy land?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
and Dan Williams is performing just fine after some growing pains.
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Dan Williams is the DHB of NT’s
September 18th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
If Raiders were looking for franchise QB, seems more effort should have been made to get RG3.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seriously, how can we NOT expect this team to win this weekend?
This is the perennial disappointing, rip your heart out Raiders we so dearly love.
We will probably win this weekend, get to 2-3 for the bye, just to lure us in, so we can lose at home to the Browns with all the momentum and season on the line, in gut-wrenching fashion to boot.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Hopefully Seymour retires not tied to his contract anymore.
Clear out pre allotted/slotted salaries for first round draft picks: a.k.a. Huff, Heyward-Bey, McClain, McFadden.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Don’t have to worry about Denver so much anymore.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Vegas… man that sure sounds like us, doesn’t it?
September 18th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Even the 2006 Raiders team, which was one of the worst teams ever in NFL history, won 2 in a row to get to 2-5, and than lost 3 of the next 4 games by only one score.
This will be the most entertaining Raider game of the season.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I wont cry if McClain leaves or anyone on that defense for all I give a damn….I mean everyone can go. We do not have the players on defense to win week to week and year to year. No way anyone on this blog can tell me that.
Offense? Well as long as Knapp is there we aint seeing an offense.
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Yeah, I agree. Knapp’s got to go and there’s not much that’s going to remain on defense when this is done.
Offense might need less work than we think, once Krapp gets canned (and I guarantee he will be), but there’s still the elephant in the room sized question of how long the Raids can go with CP.
Once all the holes are filled – and there’s a ton of them – we’re still faced with reality that this team is going to need a franchise QB to have a realistic shot at winning some Lombardis.
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Exactly the notion that he is some awesome once in a lifetime QB is done. Drew Bledsoe was slower than Palmer and was better than Palmer….he had some playoff teams that actually won games and he got to play on Super Bowl Sunday
I’m amazed we paid him 12 million for this schit scheme and coaching staff. Lord that is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen
September 18th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
All I want is for my Raiders to be feared again, committed to excellence and Just Win Baby Win….making the SB bringing home the Lombardi. That’s not asking for too much. I’m just not liking this “New Era” Raiders yet. Maybe because I’m from the old skool. Just saying.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Once Hue traded away our 1st and a 2nd no way we had a shot at RGIII; St. Louis was not going to give us their number two overall with what we had to offer.
Hell we didn’t even have two second round draft picks to trade away.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Method,
I hear what your saying. But the Dennis Allen’s B.S system has shut down the running game.
So now what?
If Carson can’t be more than a game manager…then they should turn the keys over to TP or Leinart.
I am not sure that o-line and zbs is going to get fixed anytime soon.
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And we wont be good my friend if that continues. You paying Palmer 12 million right? He gonna sit in week 3? We will see another QB at some point this season but not now
September 18th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
And of course we will win in Denver in a few weeks, as I will be drinking the Killian’s Irish piss…er Red, as we are 5-0 all-time in Denver when I drink the preferred beverage of Raider azz-kickings in Denver.
Full story to come in the weeks ahead.
Raider On
September 18th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Seriously, how can we NOT expect this team to win this weekend?
This is the perennial disappointing, rip your heart out Raiders we so dearly love.
We will probably win this weekend, get to 2-3 for the bye…
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Sure. And Slo is on the way to the Pro-Bowl.
2-3 ?
Maybe.
I’ll be shocked if this team wins more than 5 games.
2-14 seems more likely than 2-3.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
All I want is for my Raiders to be feared again, committed to excellence and Just Win Baby Win….making the SB bringing home the Lombardi. That’s not asking for too much. I’m just not liking this “New Era” Raiders yet. Maybe because I’m from the old skool. Just saying.
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I won’t like the new era until they win a freaking game.
I’ll have to reconsider my stance once they do that.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Seriously, how can we NOT expect this team to win this weekend?
This is the perennial disappointing, rip your heart out Raiders we so dearly love.
We will probably win this weekend, get to 2-3 for the bye, just to lure us in, so we can lose at home to the Browns with all the momentum and season on the line, in gut-wrenching fashion to boot.
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I hope you’re right for the sake of entertainment but I have my doubts. I have my doubts. Though I know what you speak of.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
The Vince Wilfork’s only come once a generation, chances are we would end up with Dan Williams or that dude the Chiefs just drafted.
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Remember that Al tried to get Wilfork from the Pats. He called Belichick, offered a first-rounder, and Belichick said “No, but what about Seymour?”
September 18th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
144.DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
All I want is for my Raiders to be feared again, committed to excellence and Just Win Baby Win….making the SB bringing home the Lombardi. That’s not asking for too much. I’m just not liking this “New Era” Raiders yet. Maybe because I’m from the old skool. Just saying.
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I won’t like the new era until they win a freaking game.
I’ll have to reconsider my stance once they do that.
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Absolutely DJ.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Once Hue traded away our 1st and a 2nd no way we had a shot at RGIII; St. Louis was not going to give us their number two overall with what we had to offer.
Hell we didn’t even have two second round draft picks to trade away.
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Man
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
WOW!!! IT IS FINALLY HERE…THE OFFICIAL….
FIRE GREG KNAPP PETITION!!!!!!
THIS IS GOING DIRECTLY TO THE OAKLAND RAIDER ORGANIZATION!!!
ALREADY WITH OVER 225 SIGNATURES!!! 10,000 IS THE GOAL!!!
YOU DON’T SPIT ON THE SILVER & BLACK WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS!!!
I MIGHT SIGN IT 10 TIMES MYSELF!!!
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
September 18th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I spoke to wiz 1.0 today. He said he quit because he didnt want to ruin his reputation by coaching the worst o line in the nfl!…………..Obviously i didn’t speak to him, but im sure thats part of the reason why.
I just watched nfl game rewind coaches film, this o line is a joke. Always 3 yards behind the line, always on the ground, always missing bocks and always alowing defenders to shed blocks and make tackles. MAYBE Barry sanders could average 3 yards a carry, but only him….wait i forgot about Bo. But damn, ZBS or not, if you cant block the man in front of you, the run game will suck. Not to mention how it messes up the passing game. If you have the opportunity to watch the film, go watch, its an embarrassment…..RIP Steve Sabol.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Method,
True…true…I wouldn’t expect any significant roster changes this eary and I am not blinded by the fact that the ZBS/WCO ain’t going anywhere.
Its a fricken shame that the Raiders “Hue” dug a hole with that trade and Reggie with the his follow-on renegotiation. A 1st & most likely high 2nd….your supposed to get more than a game manager
Hopefully these guys stare reality in the face make some “on-the-fly” adjustments and somehow get after it.
But if this team is 0-4…..no more doing what’s convenient.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
149.ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
WOW!!! IT IS FINALLY HERE…THE OFFICIAL….
FIRE GREG KNAPP PETITION!!!!!!
THIS IS GOING DIRECTLY TO THE OAKLAND RAIDER ORGANIZATION!!!
ALREADY WITH OVER 225 SIGNATURES!!! 10,000 IS THE GOAL!!!
YOU DON’T SPIT ON THE SILVER & BLACK WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS!!!
I MIGHT SIGN IT 10 TIMES MYSELF!!!
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
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Wowsers!
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
0-4? 0-4? Man that locker room will be divided going into the bye to play Atlanta. We havent been 0-2 since Kiffin’s rookie year
September 18th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Look…I’m sure Knapp is a good person outside of football but when it comes to my Raiders…I want the Best. Nothing personal against Knapp but the Raiders deserve better.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
My task has been accomplished…Thank you Raider Nation.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Steeler fan base would NEVER accept a long “rebuild” scenario no less after consecutive 8-8 seasons…they’d be ticked off enuff about the 8-8 seasons…but then to be told to be “patient” while we allow this coach you’ve never heard of to install his plan for the future?
Haaah. Good luck with that.
But WE are supposed to just nod our heads and say thank you.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
You guys read about the laced alcohol in the Czech Republic? Bootleg vodka and rum containing methyl alcohol. 19 people dead.
September 18th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Its not TEBOW but TEA-BOWL
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
156.DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Steeler fan base would NEVER accept a long “rebuild” scenario no less after consecutive 8-8 seasons…they’d be ticked off enuff about the 8-8 seasons…but then to be told to be “patient” while we allow this coach you’ve never heard of to install his plan for the future?
Haaah. Good luck with that.
But WE are supposed to just nod our heads and say thank you.
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Well…I’m not nodding my head saying Thank you. Mr. Allen Davis would never approve of this crap. Therefore, if Mr. Davis would never approve…I’m surely not approving.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Better yet, how would this same scenario we’re dealing with go in any of thse markets:
-New York ?
-Dallas ?
-Chicago ?(I know for a fact the answer to that one)
-Philly.?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
We better fix this fast -before BEN-RUTHLESS and the STEEL TOE
Kick our A$$ in CHOKELAND!!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
160.DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Better yet, how would this same scenario we’re dealing with go in any of thse markets:
-New York ? Never
-Dallas ? Never ever never(Davis and Jones are from the same skool of hard knocks)
-Chicago ?(I know for a fact the answer to that one)
-Philly.? Never…those fans are cruel to the bone
September 18th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Try telling Steeler fan base to be patient…
Cowboys fans
Heck..Packer fans….The state of Wisconsin would not be understandng.
Nahhh. We’re just the Raiders. We can handle it. We’re not as important.
You think DA would get away from his press conferences w/o being raked over the coals to explain himself…Reggie?
Season ticket holders would inundate those offices with protests…there’d be billboards, tv ads and assasinations.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Midseason or this offseason, would like to see Reggie cut/trade:
Seymour
Kelly
McClain
Heyward-Bey
Huff
Palmer
Leinart
Barksdale
Brisiel
Houston (or be moved to DT)
Janokowski
Lechler
Get what draft picks we can clear cap space for our future.
VOICE of reason
September 18th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Better yet, how would this same scenario we’re dealing with go in any of thse markets:
-New York ?
-Dallas ?
-Chicago ?(I know for a fact the answer to that one)
-Philly.?
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add to that…
New England
Green Bay
September 18th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
He needs to get his head out just like Carson. DHB needs to look more like AJ Green, Victor Cruz, Julio Jones.
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I literally laughed out loud when I read this.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
That is why Davis did things the way he did. There’s a reason he meddled. He knew the game. May have been stubborn about his D but he knew players and knew the game.
Davis would have loved to have a former USC gun-slinger like Palmer on the team and Hue admitted as much that they discussed it in the offseason. Do you think Davis would pair DMAC, Palmer, and DHB/Moore with a Knapp WCO? Pfft.
Not saying Davis’ decisions were gold. We had a real bad stretch not by chance. He got a bit out of touch towards the end there unfortunately, but he had an eye for talent when he was well, both in coaching and players.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
If KNAPPPPPLAND doesn’t fix this soon the -THE DONKY’s are going SH$$ IN OUR HELMETS AND PUT OUR FACE BETWEEN
THEIR LEGS. Can U Smell it DUDE!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
167.Try Some Reality Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
That is why Davis did things the way he did. There’s a reason he meddled. He knew the game. May have been stubborn about his D but he knew players and knew the game.
Davis would have loved to have a former USC gun-slinger like Palmer on the team and Hue admitted as much that they discussed it in the offseason. Do you think Davis would pair DMAC, Palmer, and DHB/Moore with a Knapp WCO? Pfft.
Not saying Davis’ decisions were gold. We had a real bad stretch not by chance. He got a bit out of touch towards the end there unfortunately, but he had an eye for talent when he was well, both in coaching and players.
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Yes indeed.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
All this hope for draft picks, yet how many actually work out like we hope.
Not just Raiders picks, but every team whiffs as much as they hit.
That’s why developing the players you have is so vital.
But let’s cut young talent for mediocre vets,
Of course, ‘Mumbles’ loves his draft picks…
Not sure he’ll have any success…
This years lower round picks havren’t done squat yet.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I love what Tarver and DA are doing on defense.
We could very well see 3 new starters in the secondary next year.
Our D was top 5 for the first 6 qtrs of this season, lol. Give Tarver some corners, and this D will be fine.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Jerry Jones would fire the entire staff if need be. You know sorta like Blake Carrington style.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Can U Smell it DUDE!
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That may have to replace PUT YOUR PANTS!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
A moment of silence for a great man. SABOL your were the Best that ever will and the Best that ever was, RIP my friend, will miss you ! THANKYOU !
September 18th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
If ALL these places would obviously NOT accept the scenario we as Raiders fans are told to be “patient” about, why should we take it laying down?
-Philly
-Dallas
-New England…(shoot ESPN would do their own telethon)
-New York
-Dallas
-Pittsburgh
-Green Bay
-Chicago
???????????????
…Nope
September 18th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
We r trying 6 new guys to our backfield
SIX SIX-PLAYOFF PLAYOFFS -Only six-6. We should try
Out 60 -Ten for each position or, if it get out of hand 600.
C’ Mon Man–CAN YOU SMELL IT DUDE!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Jerry Jones would fire the entire staff if need be. You know sorta like Blake Carrington style.
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Right. But say Jerry Jones passes on…it’d be same scenario we faced. A hardcore, all control owner passes on and hands over reins to a family member who hires a GM to handle football operations immediately following a season where they were a game away from the division…like Dallas was last yr against NYG.
New GM hires no name coach. Dallas gets blown out by Philly at home on MNF 1st game. Then goes to Tampa and gets shellacked…New coach tells Cowboy fan base…”Hey…give us a break..be patient…this might take a few yrs. we changed that old system and this will take awhile…maybe a few yrs.”
WAAAAY too much $$$ involved with Dallas and the new stadium…and alot of importance in keeping that stadium full and fans remaining interested.
With us? Well, “we’re doing it our way and it means losing alot of games most likely cuz we have to clean up the mess that Jerry Jones left us with”.
WOULD NOT FLY.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Who asked for patience???
Well I guess we are saying give the coaches time to get some real players in here at a few KEY positions.
We are starting our 3rd and 4th string CBs, and our high priced S can’t cover.
Our OGs are flat out terrible. Parsons and Bergstrom need to be starting. Can’t possibly get any worse.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
omoran Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
We r trying 6 new guys to our backfield
SIX SIX-PLAYOFF PLAYOFFS -Only six-6. We should try
Out 60 -Ten for each position or, if it get out of hand 600.
C’ Mon Man–CAN YOU SMELL IT DUDE!
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I can smell it bro. Let’s hope the team can too.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
177.DJ Johnny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Jerry Jones would fire the entire staff if need be. You know sorta like Blake Carrington style.
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Right. But say Jerry Jones passes on…it’d be same scenario we faced. A hardcore, all control owner passes on and hands over reins to a family member who hires a GM to handle football operations immediately following a season where they were a game away from the division…like Dallas was last yr against NYG.
New GM hires no name coach. Dallas gets blown out by Philly at home on MNF 1st game. Then goes to Tampa and gets shellacked…New coach tells Cowboy fan base…”Hey…give us a break..be patient…this might take a few yrs. we changed that old system and this will take awhile…maybe a few yrs.”
WAAAAY too much $$$ involved with Dallas and the new stadium…and alot of importance in keeping that stadium full and fans remaining interested.
With us? Well, “we’re doing it our way and it means losing alot of games most likely cuz we have to clean up the mess that Jerry Jones left us with”.
WOULD NOT FLY.
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Absolutely that wouldn’t fly. Those Cowboys fans would burn that stadium down demanding change. Just ask a couple of Cowboys fans.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
We don’t have to stink like hot garbage because we are going through a transitional period. Know what I mean? Give me a break.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
REGGIE & ALLEN —Should open a JOB FAIR -for-RAIDERNATION. APPLY in person – ALL POSITIONS
are available 6am -till SUPERBOWL SUNDAY.
Breakfast or lunch is included if U MAKE IT!
Thankyou don’t come again! RAIDERNATION!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
lol
September 18th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
We suck so bad we dont even nee to practice today
September 18th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I Love my Raiders but bring back the mystique!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
184.RaiderDanny Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
We suck so bad we dont even nee to practice today
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lol
September 18th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
WTF is going on!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
The same players looked great last year.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I don’t have a clue
September 18th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Al would have fired everybody already! Sometimes AL was right!!!RIP
September 18th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I have a clue….we are GUESSING!
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Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Nick Guess, @Raiders’ back-up long snapper who was waived, walks away with $24,000. Not bad for three days of practice and a flight to Miami
September 18th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Nice O-line last year
September 18th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
@JoshDubowAP: Week 2 #Raiders burn rates: Hanson 5-6 58; Lee 4-6 56; Huff 3-4 40; McClain 2-3 19 TD;
Why is it that CBs don’t learn to look back for the ball no matter how fast a runner they are and only play the WR? I mean DVD with his speed could easily turn his head to locate the ball and then adjust his speed to meet the ball either to knock it out of WR’s hand or intercept it. Instead he only looked at WR and as always was a day late and dollar too short each time since WRs have all the advantage. That’s what happened in Miami with our toasted CBs against a white slow WR(not that there’s anything wrong with that!!!).
September 18th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Wow!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Exactly KK, only thing bad was the Defense! So lets fire everyone and blow it up!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
J Hill, Knapp himself basically said “hey..it’s gonna take some time”.
True. It’s been more of alot of the posters here that have been saying anywhere from 3-5 yr, “rebuild” than the Raider management and/or coaches.
IMO, the fan bases in those markets i referenced would be all over the management of those teams and would DEMAND there not be any “rebuilding”…and would not just accept that it’s “gonna take some time”.
I can’t believe those teams wouldn’t do everything in their power to bring a winning team EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
Take Denver for instance. They energize the fan base with a 36 yr. old QB that may only be there for one…maybe two yrs. They are going for a SB and they refuse to take a few yrs. off to “build” a winning team slowly.
Tomorrow is promised to no one. You win when u have the chance. SEIZE THE MOMENT. Go for it every year.
I contend that somehow, someway org’s like Pitt. for instance would find a way to not only put a good team on the field while at the same time build for the future and the fan base would accept nothing less.
I was told when managing people that they will produce to the level you EXPECT from them. If u expect little..you’ll get it, but if u expect greatness…you’ll get that instead.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Thought we didn’t have any money…
3 days @ 24,000….breaks down to 2,920,000.00 annual contract…..
Way to go Reggie…way to go!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
I thought we didn’t have enough money too. We deserve honesty.
September 18th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Lol! Just start trading off the rest of the team! Just so WE know what your trying to do!
September 18th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
You might need a beer, DJ
September 18th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
exactly
September 18th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Why?? Is Seymour on the team??
September 18th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
oops…exactly@199
September 18th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Thought we didn’t have any money…
3 days @ 24,000….breaks down to 2,920,000.00 annual contract…..
Way to go Reggie…way to go!
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If you can’t be interesting, be ridiculous ?
September 18th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
The same players looked great last year.
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Amen. This is the one argument the Allen and Knapp supporters have yet to provide a credible answer to…
September 18th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
SUNDAYS game with the DUFFUSS -made us smell like fish!
Can you still smell it -DUDE !!!
KNAPP SMELL LIKE –GARBAGE TUNA.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Everybody seems expendable except for Seymour? He didnt practice for 2 weeks comes straight into a game! Maybe that why the player quit on us
September 18th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Just say no to 0-3
September 18th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Mr. Alen Davis spoiled us with expecting nothing less than a SB win….and I’ll refuse to change. It’s in my blood.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
How bout this for ridiculous?
We are in trouble people…and we all know it….
The problem is….the guys in charge don’t know it….they actually think we can compete….right now their EGOS are running the show inside of their MINDS…
With our secondary….and with what I witnessed on Sunday…..we might not win a game this year….
I hate to say it….but if this does happen…
You know who will come out looking like a genius?
AL DAVIS
And who will take the fall?
Reggie McKenzie…Along with those who referred him, John Madden and Ron Wolf….
September 18th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Speaking of Tuna- wish we had Parcells instead of Reggie
September 18th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
ReggieNation should call a stampeed of 600 men for the JOB -FAIR. Dig it ?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Any word on Andre Carter?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Al Davis is dead. Move on. No Need to hate on the Raiders.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
nope no word.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
0-16 Lets make it a new RAIDER RECORD! ! Yeah.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Say DA hired Knapp! Parcells would be in Knapps grill right now!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
214.KoolKell Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Al Davis is dead. Move on. No Need to hate on the Raiders.
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Nah, I’m not moving on until I see a product that he would approve and be very proud of.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Question arises “how would u propose to keep winning and STILL build for the future” with what the Raiders had?
You keep the same HC for more than one damn yr. You keep doing the same things u were doing that brought u a top 10 offense…maybe tweek a little to god forbid “improve” on it maybe. Keep Bush..
You hire a proven DC like Del Rio perhaps to take over the D and add new schemes…and u get up to “average”.
You give this team a real chance to win NOW while still planning for the future. You arent insistent on getting “your guy”….a no name who is unproven. You wait until this plays out…cut some fat (like they did) and try to win as many games as possible…
You put your personal ego behind and have as your main focus…WINNING and GRADUALLY implement new offensive and defensive ideas into the mix and u cater to the familiarity of the personnel you have NOW and adjust your schemes accordingly as different players with different skill sets emerge thru your drafting and FA acquisitions.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Al Davis is dead. Move on. No Need to hate on the Raiders.
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Who is hating on the Raiders?
Certainly not me….no….the guy who is hating on the RAIDERS is our General Manager…
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Mr. Allen Davis is the very reason….I became a Raiders fan.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Who asked for patience???
Well I guess we are saying give the coaches time to get some real players in here at a few KEY positions.
We are starting our 3rd and 4th string CBs, and our high priced S can’t cover.
Our OGs are flat out terrible. Parsons and Bergstrom need to be starting. Can’t possibly get any worse.
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Mayne we already got good players. We were good last year. All we needed was a new DC. That’s all mayne. This stupid scheme ain’t raider ball. knapp shoulda known this. We weren’t broken. We were on the doorstep mayne.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
we weren’t “good” last year.
We lost to every decent team we played.
We lost games we should have won.
8-8 isn’t good.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Wretched Gollum Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
J Hill Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Who asked for patience???
Well I guess we are saying give the coaches time to get some real players in here at a few KEY positions.
We are starting our 3rd and 4th string CBs, and our high priced S can’t cover.
Our OGs are flat out terrible. Parsons and Bergstrom need to be starting. Can’t possibly get any worse.
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Mayne we already got good players. We were good last year. All we needed was a new DC. That’s all mayne. This stupid scheme ain’t raider ball. knapp shoulda known this. We weren’t broken. We were on the doorstep mayne.
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Amen.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Why do you guys continue to blame the coaches?
Sure, they are average….I know….but how did we arrive at our staff?
The General Manager….
He is the guy who takes the fall for the product we see out there….
He is the man responsible for our secondary….since every player is new to this team….
He is responsible for the Head Coach, who is responsible for the OC….
No…..I will blame the GM until he proves himself of is shown the door…..
So far, he hasn’t shown me jack chit’
Hating on the Raiders….you’re nuts….I love this friggin team….all the people who care enough to deal with the chit we have to hear from people in the world for supporting this team gives us every right in the world to speak out….
Reggie McKenzie….you better wake the F-up my friend….
September 18th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Mr. Allen Davis is the very reason….I became a Raiders fan.
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Same with me…
September 18th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
If we lose to kc we will go ofer fo sho mayne
September 18th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
The same players looked great last year.
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Amen. This is the one argument the Allen and Knapp supporters have yet to provide a credible answer to…
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Hue haters will never answer this question because they have no answer except “hue got his self fired” “hue set the record for penalties” “hue never adjusted in the second half”. thats all we’ll get from them.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
These guys had 5 draft picks, undrafted FA, supplemental draft,restricted FA! Joe Blow off the street! And all the players from last year! AND THIS IS THE PRODUCT THEY PUT ON THE FIELD?? Mark u may have to put your Daddys old boxers on!!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
I Love my Raiders sooooo darn much until I’ll sleep in my Raiders gear but what’s going on now is unacceptable.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
contracts we had were so out of whack, we had to cut decent players.
I think Tommy Kelly is still one of the top-paid D-linemen in the NFL lol.
We have more $ going to our kicker/punter than our O-line.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Mr. Allen Davis is the very reason….I became a Raiders fan.
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We all grew up worshiping Al Davis. He’s in the Hall of Fame. He’s dead. Move on. You people are kicking Reggie out of spite.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Yep@226
September 18th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Go home haters. We were good last year mayne. If we had a bonafide DC last year we woulda beat those so called decent teams. We were that fckn close. A decent dc last year and it’s 12-4 baby. All we needed this year was a bonafide dc. That’s all. Period. End of story. Haters buh bye.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Our Raiders looked like in SLOWMOTION in ESPN and KNAPP,
M’c Fadden and PALMER looked like:
” THE CAT THAT ATE THE CANARY “” Tom & Jerry.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Nah KK…I’ve never worshipped Mr. Davis….I just loved and admired what he stood for.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
From las weeks interview where Reggie shows his strength as a talent evaluator:
Question: Most teams lose a starting cornerback Week 1 and panic, but Pat Lee is your guy, so you’re pretty comfortable?
McKenzie: Yes, I am comfortable with what he can do. As far as matching up with certain guys, he can do that well. I’m scared to put him on Calvin Johnson, you know, but he’s smart and he understands the defense and what they’re asking of him. If he just plays within his game, he will be fine. Corner is one of those deals where some guys want to take chances and try and make a play and do something outside of the defense, and that’s something we don’t want them to do. He should be fine. They will put him in a position to succeed.
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Career High For Hartline in the game Sunday
9 Catches for 111 yards
To be fair a couple catches occurred against Hanson….but I think I’ve made my point!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
we weren’t “good” last year.
We lost to every decent team we played.
We lost games we should have won.
8-8 isn’t good.
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Alex7 you know I respect your opinion but could have easily been 12-4 shuda won buff den det sd games all those games fell on chuck b.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
lol@235
September 18th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
We all did.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Koolkell…
You’re right…I’ll just stick with the facts….
My personal opinion of our GM has no place here….
September 18th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
The facts are there for you in post 237
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t60oY0TbTU
September 18th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Later…Koolkell didn’t bring his A Game tonight….so I’m outta here…
Til Next Time Fellow Haters!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Our QB -looked affraid and not relax like MATT RYAN,having fun with
THE DONKYS .His shoulders were in like somebody HIT HIM WITH A
GARBAGE CAN!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
All this being patient talk. I did not hear much of that with Hue. 3 to 4 yrs to see if Reggie can get the Raiders out of the hole. If Hue was here he would not have been talking about possibly being better in 3 to 4 years. What gives?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
lol@244 funny stuff…Palmer did look like somebody hit him with a garbage can. I was saying what the heck? hahahaha
September 18th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
For every game we “could have” won last year, we also won games we “could have” lost.
Chiefs lucky win in OT (Bowe drops easy game-winner, safety drops easy game-clinching INT), barely beat the Cutler-less Bears, game 1 vs Broncos was ugly win that could have gone either way, Texans win was somewhat lucky…
we could have also easily been 5-11.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Let’s be honest 2012 it’s gonna get uglier before gets any prettier let’s do 2013 thinking with a top 5 pick.
1.- Draft Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas
3.- Nickel corner
4-7 OL DL depth
Dump these ones: Kelly, Brisel, Barnes, DHB
Resign Brayant and Wheeler
let walk Seymour, Lechler Bartell Spencer Lee Hanson Carlisle.
With the money saved should be able to pick up these free agents:
1.- Brent Grimes CB
2.- Mike Jenkins CB
3.- Sebastian Vollmer OT
4.- Greg Jennings WR
Suddenly the starting unit wouldn’t look too awful.
Just my 2 cents
September 18th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Sup Ron69? how it going?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
we ALL agree that Hue + improved D this year = playoffs.
The point is, how much would that D have improved with Hue?
We still had terrible contracts, still would have had to cut guys like Routt and Wimbley, still not have had draft picks, still had little experience playing zone well, still no DE pass-rusher, still no LB depth…
Not seeing where we just magically improve D to middle-of-the-pack this year even with Hue
September 18th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
oops…how’s it going. I’m having typo problems
September 18th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
For every game we “could have” won last year, we also won games we “could have” lost.
Chiefs lucky win in OT (Bowe drops easy game-winner, safety drops easy game-clinching INT), barely beat the Cutler-less Bears, game 1 vs Broncos was ugly win that could have gone either way, Texans win was somewhat lucky…
we could have also easily been 5-11.
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true that. tryna be on the positive side. but I know hue had us heading in the right direction on O NOW I dont know where the hell were headed but I do know we’re wasting whats left of dmacs career he only has a few elite years left in rb years.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
we beat terrible teams like the Browns, Chiefs, Tebow-less Broncos, Cutler-less Bears, and Vikings last year.
That’s not all that impressive.
We lost to the Patriots, Packers, Lions, Bills, Dolphins, Chiefs.
I just didn’t see anything THAT special last year other than beating some terrible teams.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
yeah Eastoakland
People were RAGGIN’ on me for being ticked off when we let Hue go.
I knew were were about to take a huge step back on O.
Hard to let go of the one part of your team that was working.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I never see to much RAIDERS HIGHLITES, but when we lose
ESPN and all the news network can’t stop showing how,
Embaraced we look, they all hate us,dispice us, and laugh at us.
THEY LIKE TO HUMILIATE US & Al too) RIP !
September 18th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
we ALL agree that Hue + improved D this year = playoffs.
The point is, how much would that D have improved with Hue?
We still had terrible contracts, still would have had to cut guys like Routt and Wimbley, still not have had draft picks, still had little experience playing zone well, still no DE pass-rusher, still no LB depth…
Not seeing where we just magically improve D to middle-of-the-pack this year even with Hue
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the D is better by simply not being on the field as much and with hue O being on the field more that means less time for our D to give up points and with us scoring more points teams have to try to keep pace and that leads to more turnovers as they have to pass a bit more which also leads to more sacks. you know the old “the best D is a good O” saying. if I remember correctly in the gannon years our D wasnt that great either but we scored so many points that teams had to try to keep up and you know the rest.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
here’s a new topic for u guys: rolando mcclain is officially the worst MLB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. what i watched against miami was a guy who had no heart, continually avoided all contact, many times didn’t know where the ball even was, tried to duck around blockers or just run up to a hole without caring if that’s where the play was going. i think he’s on drugs. i really do. it was pathetic.
do not be surprised if travis goethel is starting this week.
do not be surprised if mcclain gets cut very soon.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
But when BO JACKSON ran from the END ZONE to inside the
STADIUM CAFETERIA they did smile.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
For every game we “could have” won last year, we also won games we “could have” lost.
Chiefs lucky win in OT (Bowe drops easy game-winner, safety drops easy game-clinching INT), barely beat the Cutler-less Bears, game 1 vs Broncos was ugly win that could have gone either way, Texans win was somewhat lucky…
we could have also easily been 5-11.
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When you are looking for the worst in a team i can see where u draw that opinion, but the record was 8-8. You are what your record says u are.
You can look at the 76 Raiders and say they “could’ve” been 7-7. They won a game against Chi. they probably shouldn’t have won. They cmae back with 17 pts in the 4th against Pitt week 1 that Pitt “should’ve” won, and there were other games they won by 3 or 4 pts. that “could’ve gone either way” . Yet…at the end of it all they were 13-1 and won a SB.
You can’t just say cuz a game was close and it could’ve gone “either way” that it’s one we should have lost. Do we question every single close game now and not give a team credit for winning them? After all they “could have’ lost…
They didn’t.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
here is the true state of the team. this comes from an absolute raider fan, but one who says the truth.
o-line is performing very poorly. no lanes. constant pressure. and now all the khalif barnes haters can welcome in the big willie smith era. but he might be ok.
dmc is frustrated and beat up already. he sees no holes and doesn’t charge ahead b/c he doesn’t wanna keep slamming into a wall.
dhb’s hands are greatly improved and moore can play. myers is most improved on team.
palmer is team mvp thus far and all bloggers saying negative things about him are ignorant.
d-line plays the run fairly well. seymour has slipped. their pass rush consists of bull rushing only. no moves. andre carter to the rescue please!
mcclain is horrendous. worst i’ve ever seen. heartless. burris and wheeler are really good.
cb situation is worst positionally on team. all rejects from other teams.
safeties are what they are. branch is good. huff mediocre. giordano makes plays but has trouble in one-on-one coverage.
this is the straight dope.
needed badly: corners, MLB, pass rusher, OL.
DA looks beleaguered already.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
257.dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
here’s a new topic for u guys: rolando mcclain is officially the worst MLB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. what i watched against miami was a guy who had no heart, continually avoided all contact, many times didn’t know where the ball even was, tried to duck around blockers or just run up to a hole without caring if that’s where the play was going. i think he’s on drugs. i really do. it was pathetic.
do not be surprised if travis goethel is starting this week.
do not be surprised if mcclain gets cut very soon.
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I agree Doc. it’s like he has no heart or passion we need a better performance in that position. I often wonder what is the problem.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
The way Koolkell judges Al Davis the owner that brought us Super bowl rings. The way Alex 7 judges Hue Jackson the Coach that brought us out of losing season two years in a row wants Raider fans not to be judgemental to a GM and coaches that gave us nothing but losses so far. The Irony streams on…
September 18th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
You know if San. Holmes doesn’t make that lucky catch in the SB AZ wins, and if Gronkowski is just a few steps to his right when Brady throw that desperation heave in the end NE wins…better take that Lombardi away cuz NYG “could’ve just as easily lost.”
If Tyree doesn’t make that desperation catch New England wins.. can’t give NYG credit for that..after all they “could’ve just as easily lost”.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Every week we should make GLADIATOR TRY OUTS
Test the guys out, Check their GUTS or TESTOSTERUM
LEVELS. He who is weak feed them to REGGIE!
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
257.dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
here’s a new topic for u guys: rolando mcclain is officially the worst MLB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. what i watched against miami was a guy who had no heart, continually avoided all contact, many times didn’t know where the ball even was, tried to duck around blockers or just run up to a hole without caring if that’s where the play was going. i think he’s on drugs. i really do. it was pathetic.
do not be surprised if travis goethel is starting this week.
do not be surprised if mcclain gets cut very soon.
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I agree Doc. it’s like he has no heart or passion we need a better performance in that position. I often wonder what is the problem.
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i am done having any sort of optimism with him. i highly recommend to all bloggers to watch him specifically during games. if u record them, watch him closely. it’s gotten worse than i could have imagined. he truly looks like he would rather not be out there.
i remember watching oliver mccall in a boxing match years ago and he came out and was acting really strange, eventually walking around the ring and refusing to fight, yelling at everyone. he forfeited. it came out that he was on coke. mcclain looked so disinterested in the game that really think something is up. not joking. he literally wrestled around with lineman 7 yards down the field with his back to the play. then stood there looking at the guy while play was still going on behind him. if coaches watch the film and somehow don’t bench him, then they deserve what they get. i did notice goethel was in the lineup late in the game.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
lol
I was pro Hue and got blasted for it.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I did watch McClain in the 1st quarter run into an O-line hole and just slam head first, no idea where the ball was, no plan, he just ran into the hole and dove to the ground.
Was bizarre.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
We should make a “LINE IN THE SAND” JERRY!
If we give more than 17 Pts before half -time!
The DE-FENCE IS ACCOUNT IT FOR, and film room
Is ready for you–BIATCH!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
THE OFFICIAL….
FIRE GREG KNAPP PETITION!!!!!!
THIS IS GOING DIRECTLY TO THE OAKLAND RAIDER ORGANIZATION!!!
ALREADY WITH OVER 225 SIGNATURES!!! 10,000 IS THE GOAL!!!
YOU DON’T SPIT ON THE SILVER & BLACK WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS!!!
I MIGHT LEGALLY CHANGE MY NAME JUST SO I CAN SIGN IT AGAIN!!!
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
September 18th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
joseph barksdale now listed as 3rd team RT, with big willie 2nd team RT and LT.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Isn’t it enough that we suck badly right now for some here, that they feel it necessary to try and discredit any successes we di have in the past?
We suck. You should be happy.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I did watch McClain in the 1st quarter run into an O-line hole and just slam head first, no idea where the ball was, no plan, he just ran into the hole and dove to the ground.
Was bizarre.
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i have made a habit of watching him on every play, because i can’t stand him. he is my most reviled raider. he did the same thing numerous times. i really think he was high as a kite and had no wits about him.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Bottom line is some fans think Mckenzie can do no wrong and every choice he makes is the right one.
Time will tell.. but by then it could be too late and most of the key players that made up the future of the Raiders could be gone. DMAC included
September 18th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Madden13 sucks
Not much has changed
September 18th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
265.dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
257.dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
here’s a new topic for u guys: rolando mcclain is officially the worst MLB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. what i watched against miami was a guy who had no heart, continually avoided all contact, many times didn’t know where the ball even was, tried to duck around blockers or just run up to a hole without caring if that’s where the play was going. i think he’s on drugs. i really do. it was pathetic.
do not be surprised if travis goethel is starting this week.
do not be surprised if mcclain gets cut very soon.
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I agree Doc. it’s like he has no heart or passion we need a better performance in that position. I often wonder what is the problem.
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i am done having any sort of optimism with him. i highly recommend to all bloggers to watch him specifically during games. if u record them, watch him closely. it’s gotten worse than i could have imagined. he truly looks like he would rather not be out there.
i remember watching oliver mccall in a boxing match years ago and he came out and was acting really strange, eventually walking around the ring and refusing to fight, yelling at everyone. he forfeited. it came out that he was on coke. mcclain looked so disinterested in the game that really think something is up. not joking. he literally wrestled around with lineman 7 yards down the field with his back to the play. then stood there looking at the guy while play was still going on behind him. if coaches watch the film and somehow don’t bench him, then they deserve what they get. i did notice goethel was in the lineup late in the game.
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I just haven’t been impressed with his performances and Mr. Davis had high hopes for him too…he’s too inconsistent. He says he’s shy but you could be right Doc it may be Cocaine. Do you think he can disguise the Coke when they give drug testings?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
“Greetings,
I just signed the following petition addressed to: Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen, The Oakland Raiders.
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Fire Greg Knapp
The Raiders deserve better. Greg Knapp has proven he cannot win against defensive coordinators in the NFL. His route concepts don’t work, he doesn’t put our players in the best position to win, & his playbook does not emphasize the run or the vertical game.”
—————-
Sincerely,
[Your name]
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
My name is the ArmChair GM…and I approve this message.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
what’s it say about barksdale’s future here that he was beat out by an undrafted OT that was just cut after ten days? and that they brought in an OT today to work out? been telling u guys this dude is on his way out.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
If the Offense doesn’t score 17 Pts or more, to the film room.
A pie in the face scenario and PREPARATION $
September 18th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
goldie–i’m not sure what is mcclain’s deal. but he has sunk to a level of bizarre depths. coke, maybe ecstasy, who knows. maybe he’s bipolar. something seemed very wrong. he’s always been tentative and lacked aggressiveness. i have always said he reminded me of a bully (not the kind hue was talking about). the kind of guy who would go rough up little guys, like sproles, and hit people when they weren’t looking, like witten, but disappeared against people his own size in a fair fight. it’s menatl weakness. bullies always fade under pressure.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
what’s it say about barksdale’s future here that he was beat out by an undrafted OT that was just cut after ten days? and that they brought in an OT today to work out? been telling u guys this dude is on his way out.
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What it says is what most already know. Specifically, Barksdale is too slow to play NFL OT. He’s much better suited for OG. Personally, I’d like to see Veldheer, Wiz 2.0, Parsons, Barksdale & whoever the best OT prospect we have to be our power blocking smash-mouth O-line. I believe this line-up would provide the necessary beef & power to open big holes and/or provide a substantial pass blocking group.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Fuk
September 18th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
what about taiwan? if they’re seriously afraid to give him the ball, then what the heck is he on the team for?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
barks was drafted with power scheme in mind not bs zbs.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
I know huey was gonna make alot of changes this year.. he was gonna get a D cord he wanted. He was also gonna get rid of players that he felt didnt need to be here and were not gonna get with the program
He was gonna move michelle HUFF to corner probaly because he didnt think he was physical enough. I wonder what current regime is now thinking of moving huff to corner ??? HMMMMMMMMMM
Say what u want about huey or cable.. the players played hard for them..didnt have the best talent but the huey maximized it.. he didnt restrain it and force a new system on them. This sunday will tell me alot about this team and how hard they play for Allen. If they lose by alot…well then there is ur answer
September 18th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
i think veldheer and wiz (at G, not C) are our only decent linemen at this point. big willie has some ability but would be a better backup. bergstrom may be ok too. i feel like veldheer, wiz, some C off the street, bergstrom, some T off the street would be our best line w/o barnes, who i always thought was decent.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Yep Doc. could be ecstasy or bipolarism or once again purple drank. This generation is into ecstasy, purple drank and Bath salts. Who knows? Bizare I’ll tell ya…Bizare Really sad.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Madden 13 sukks sukks sukks
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
287.mcfadden20. Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Madden 13 sukks sukks sukks
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Thanks for tip MCF20. Good looking out.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Fukin same Playbook for Oakland wtf?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
People expected and understand a rooke GM and rookie head coach like Allen to make mistakes, but it was inexcusable for a rookie head coach like Hue last year to make mistakes??
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No, rookies are going to make rookie mistakes. But there is a big difference between not having a backup long snapper on your roster, and not knowing how to call an opening coin flip. That was a major red flag.
^^^^^^^^^
Lame. Your hate for Hue has blinded you. I can understand if you hated Chuck B or Knapp that much but Hue?
Wrong!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
See how I love my RAIDERS TO DEATH.
Im a MAD BO RAIDER since -1967 -LAMONICA STYLE
100 loses are to much for my heart.CHUCKY CURSE IS
13 years. Figure it out. From 2002 +13 =2015 .
Do the math, ALLEN has sign for 4 years and REGGIE is
Still shuffling players–in 2-3 years this RAIDER team will
Look like a GOOD OIL MACHINE -2015.End of CHUCKY’s
CURSE –12-4.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
287.mcfadden20. Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Madden 13 sukks sukks sukks
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Thanks for tip MCF20. Good looking out.
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It really does man …same freaking commentary and other stuff …
September 18th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
I know huey was gonna make alot of changes this year.. he was gonna get a D cord he wanted. He was also gonna get rid of players that he felt didnt need to be here and were not gonna get with the program
He was gonna move michelle HUFF to corner probaly because he didnt think he was physical enough. I wonder what current regime is now thinking of moving huff to corner ??? HMMMMMMMMMM
Say what u want about huey or cable.. the players played hard for them..didnt have the best talent but the huey maximized it.. he didnt restrain it and force a new system on them. This sunday will tell me alot about this team and how hard they play for Allen. If they lose by alot…well then there is ur answer
^^^^^^^
Exactly!
This team has already called it quits in Allen.
If they make it close versus Pitt this week, then we know the players still give a damn. If they don’t, then we know the players think Allen and Knapp are full of it.
Can’t blame the players really. They have seen 3 different head coaches in 3 years.
Ridiculous.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
here is the true state of the team. this comes from an absolute raider fan, but one who says the truth.
o-line is performing very poorly. no lanes. constant pressure. and now all the khalif barnes haters can welcome in the big willie smith era. but he might be ok.
dmc is frustrated and beat up already. he sees no holes and doesn’t charge ahead b/c he doesn’t wanna keep slamming into a wall.
dhb’s hands are greatly improved and moore can play. myers is most improved on team.
palmer is team mvp thus far and all bloggers saying negative things about him are ignorant.
d-line plays the run fairly well. seymour has slipped. their pass rush consists of bull rushing only. no moves. andre carter to the rescue please!
mcclain is horrendous. worst i’ve ever seen. heartless. burris and wheeler are really good.
cb situation is worst positionally on team. all rejects from other teams.
safeties are what they are. branch is good. huff mediocre. giordano makes plays but has trouble in one-on-one coverage.
this is the straight dope.
needed badly: corners, MLB, pass rusher, OL.
DA looks beleaguered already
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Needed badly….and REAL offensive coordinator!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I kinda knew not much was going to change in this stupid game but some how I got suckered into buying it
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
“Greetings,
I just signed the following petition addressed to: Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen, The Oakland Raiders.
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Fire Greg Knapp
The Raiders deserve better. Greg Knapp has proven he cannot win against defensive coordinators in the NFL. His route concepts don’t work, he doesn’t put our players in the best position to win, & his playbook does not emphasize the run or the vertical game.”
—————-
Sincerely,
[Your name]
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
My name is the ArmChair GM…and I approve this message.
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Done!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
257.dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
here’s a new topic for u guys: rolando mcclain is officially the worst MLB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. what i watched against miami was a guy who had no heart, continually avoided all contact, many times didn’t know where the ball even was, tried to duck around blockers or just run up to a hole without caring if that’s where the play was going. i think he’s on drugs. i really do. it was pathetic.
do not be surprised if travis goethel is starting this week.
do not be surprised if mcclain gets cut very soon.
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Doc,
I have been saying that about McClain since he played his first game.
One thing DA touted is that McClain had great leadership skills and a great football mind.
I never believed it for a minute. First of all, McClain lacks intelligence to play in the NFL. DA’s comments about McClain made me call DA into question, mainly as a liar.
Secondly, McClain is no leader. Can you imagine receiving orders from him as “Captain” of the D?? The thought of it is ridiculous.
McClain is talented at playing “thug in the ghetto” in Alabama, and discharging a firearm next to his ex-best friend’s ear. If only McClain was as aggressive on the football field. Let’s hope their justice system takes care of him for us.
He should be dumped immediately.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I kinda knew not much was going to change in this stupid game but some how I got suckered into buying it
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Of course they won’t change. Allen and Knapp are being stubborn and stupid. Bad combo.
They need to run more power traps, counters, and pull plays in the run game and hope to catch the Steelers off guard a bit. They also need to go deep more also and run misdirection and run screens.
Steelers will eat Knapps weak azz ZBS crap alive and DMC might get hurt because of it.
Allen and Knapp are being stubborn idiots right now.
I’m surprised Allen doesn’t know better. He has worked under some good coaches and should know this.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Yes, you can blame the players.
They’re not very good.
I’m pretty sure Philly and Houston was the only good team they actually beat in the last 5 years.
Over the last 5 years, they constantly lose to the likes of the Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, Saints, Falcons, and Chargers.
We just aren’t that good. How is that a new coach’s fault when his LBers, CBs, DEs, WRs, and OL are below-average?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
JB Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
“Greetings,
I just signed the following petition addressed to: Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen, The Oakland Raiders.
—————-
Fire Greg Knapp
The Raiders deserve better. Greg Knapp has proven he cannot win against defensive coordinators in the NFL. His route concepts don’t work, he doesn’t put our players in the best position to win, & his playbook does not emphasize the run or the vertical game.”
—————-
Sincerely,
[Your name]
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
My name is the ArmChair GM…and I approve this message.
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Done!
_____________________________________________________
247 signatures in one day ain’t too shabby. Either Knapp gets his head out his butt and starts putting his players in positions to win, or he will be gone!
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
I stopped buying Madden a couple of years ago. Still play ‘11. The exclusivity deal between EA Sports and the NFL has ruined NFL themed video games. I’ve talked to hard core gamers that are actually playing NFL video games from 10 years ago, and insist they’re better than the new Maddens, sans obviously the graphics. But the gameplay, strategy, etc, is worlds better.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
I think Reggie gave a little too much autonomy to Dennis Allen in allowing him to totally pick his own assistants. Granted, a HC wants that ability but they should have to earn that perk. I think Reggie should have allowed DA to pick all the D side of the house assistants but maintained control over the offense & ST. Keeping most of the past offensive assistants and ST assistants, making Al Saunders OC & kept “Bones” Fassell as ST coordinator would have produced much better results.
DA is very young & he’s made some real stupid decisions, coach-wise, IMO. He’s qualified to rework the defense, which needed it. He should have left the offense alone, added a couple of offensive players, which they did, and we would be way ahead of where we are now. That’s spilt milk now and we are going to have to wait to see if he makes the needed right corrections.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Code Black
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Well, a couple of people already admitted they signed the petition multiple times under different identities. I’m going to put the real number of human heads at somewhere around 100, and that adds up to just about the people who post in here and perhaps some of friends and relatives they’ve guilt tripped into supporting their cause. Between this, and the fact that our offense has only dropped 6 places in league rankings since last year, and is still statistically better than most offenses in the NFL despite the organization going through an entire managerial overhaul, Knapp’s job’s safe.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Hey RAIDERNATION & JERRY CORKRAN
KNAPP was given a First chance and didn’t
Perform well. Then now he didn’t do well on
Ex games and given a 3rd.chance at NEW NFL
and MNF and we still look bad like–ROB RYAN
THE CLOWN OF THE COWGIRLS! You know what
they say 3 strikes and you are OUT.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Well, a couple of people already admitted they signed the petition multiple times under different identities. I’m going to put the real number of human heads at somewhere around 100, and that adds up to just about the people who post in here and perhaps some of friends and relatives they’ve guilt tripped into supporting their cause. Between this, and the fact that our offense has only dropped 6 places in league rankings since last year, and is still statistically better than most offenses in the NFL despite the organization going through an entire managerial overhaul, Knapp’s job’s safe.
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Who are these couple of people that have “admitted” to signing under different identities?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
So, JB, you’re recommending that McKenzie undermine Dennis Allen immediately after hiring him, by forcing coaches onto his staff. Very similar to the type of management that resulted in 9 consecutive seasons for the Raiders without a winning record, and nearly 3 decades without a Super Bowl victory.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
I stopped buying Madden a couple of years ago. Still play ‘11. The exclusivity deal between EA Sports and the NFL has ruined NFL themed video games. I’ve talked to hard core gamers that are actually playing NFL video games from 10 years ago, and insist they’re better than the new Maddens, sans obviously the graphics. But the gameplay, strategy, etc, is worlds better.
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I also owned 11 before this one , and didn’t buy into 12 hype and was only 50-50 about this guy but since my 11 game was scratched and kept freEzing at wrong times , I decided to give this one a try .. And still disappointed … Still have players Standing on sidelines not moving 1 bit ..still have fans frozen to Their seats .. And no body is walking on the steps or anything , still can’t do play action , now they have this new infinity engine .. The same play would never look the same but after each and every play guys are tripping over each other .. Commentary still same and sucks ..presentation sucks .. Cameras kinda suck … Same routes .. Etc .. Franchise mode still sucks .. Can’t believe I wasted 60$ bucks on this .. Could have attended a Raiders game and had so much fun with my fellow Nation brothers
September 18th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
257.dr_robert Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
here’s a new topic for u guys: rolando mcclain is officially the worst MLB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. what i watched against miami was a guy who had no heart, continually avoided all contact, many times didn’t know where the ball even was, tried to duck around blockers or just run up to a hole without caring if that’s where the play was going. i think he’s on drugs. i really do. it was pathetic.
do not be surprised if travis goethel is starting this week.
do not be surprised if mcclain gets cut very soon.
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Doc,
I have been saying that about McClain since he played his first game.
One thing DA touted is that McClain had great leadership skills and a great football mind.
I never believed it for a minute. First of all, McClain lacks intelligence to play in the NFL. DA’s comments about McClain made me call DA into question, mainly as a liar.
Secondly, McClain is no leader. Can you imagine receiving orders from him as “Captain” of the D?? The thought of it is ridiculous.
McClain is talented at playing “thug in the ghetto” in Alabama, and discharging a firearm next to his ex-best friend’s ear. If only McClain was as aggressive on the football field. Let’s hope their justice system takes care of him for us.
He should be dumped immediately.
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i’m glad that others on here are seeing it too. supposedly he was a film junkie and had a good mind for the game in college. but seriously, drugs fuk people up. they change. i just see a guy right now who doesn’t want to be on the field. i can’t see how the coaches could put him out there again. it’s basically playing with 10 defenders. how could u go out there if ur tyvon branch or pjilip wheeler and see his play, and know the coaches have to see it, and he still keeps his spot? very defeating. “i mean cmon coach, put someone in who is in this with us!”
September 18th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
ArmChair, thought I’d read a couple of comments earlier where people were saying they’ve signed the petition under different names. If not, my mistake. It doesn’t matter, anyway. Nobody in the Raiders’ organization is going to take the petition seriously.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Well, a couple of people already admitted they signed the petition multiple times under different identities. I’m going to put the real number of human heads at somewhere around 100, and that adds up to just about the people who post in here and perhaps some of friends and relatives they’ve guilt tripped into supporting their cause. Between this, and the fact that our offense has only dropped 6 places in league rankings since last year, and is still statistically better than most offenses in the NFL despite the organization going through an entire managerial overhaul, Knapp’s job’s safe.
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Sullivan44
I’m still waiting for you to provide some EVIDENCE for this fallacious claim…Who are these couple of people that have “admitted” to signing under different identities?
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Reggie is just trying to get through the year with a minimal investment. Too many bloated contracts, no draft picks, and no money.
It stinks. Another crappy a$$ year.
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Should have kept Hue and just worked on revamping the defense and work cutting the penalties and kept Bush.
Now everything has gone straight to hell and this team will suck again for 3 years at least. Terrible!
Raider Nation deserves better.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I signed the fire Knapp petition…easily.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
So, JB, you’re recommending that McKenzie undermine Dennis Allen immediately after hiring him, by forcing coaches onto his staff. Very similar to the type of management that resulted in 9 consecutive seasons for the Raiders without a winning record, and nearly 3 decades without a Super Bowl victory.
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Yes, what’s your point. I thought I explained it fairly clearly. Young, inexperienced people often make mistakes before they learn how to do it right. Reggie, an experienced leader, could have spared DA the pain he’s now finding himself mixed up with. Under my scenario, DA would have been a lot better off right now. Just my opinion but totally logical too.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
On Madden ‘11, if you set all of the difficulty levels to the highest levels, you get a pretty good game. If you set the overall settings to “All Madden”, it’s just stupid. You can use the best team in the league and play against the worst team, and their RB will bounce all 11 of your defenders off of you. Use manual sliders, set overall difficulty to “custom”, or whatever it says.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Tell me if knapps O is not keeping Palmers TOs down .. I think it is effective in some way … I don’t think Allen really thought a back caliber of McFadden would struggle in this scheme ,when it annually make scrub RbS look like stars in this scheme , he couldn’t have imagined all that .. Yes he probably thought we were going to be maybe passive but he also thought that could be a good thing and could keep Palmers TO’s down and which are down … And he thought he could just duplicate the success of Niners or Denver broncos from year ago ..by playing hard nosed football on D and scoring enough points on O and keeping TOs down would probably win some games .. I mean if Den could win games with McFadden by going 3 and outs all game long till the end when the other D’s got really tired then I think we can do that too .. We need to some how get the line going and atleast become above average running team ..
September 18th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Armchair,
I don’t have evidence, and I’m not going to scroll up to find it. I thought I saw it. If I didn’t, my bad. It really doesn’t matter, does it? You know nobody in the Raiders’ organization is going to bat an eye at this silly thing.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:01 am
With Tebow***
September 19th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Nation I think I ll hit the bag.My voice was heard and JERRY will FAX all this concern BLOGS to REGGIE & ALLEN. & TARVER for us tomorrow before 6am –RAIDERS JOB FAIR.
THANKYOU JERRY.–May all the coaches ears ring!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:02 am
“Young, inexperienced people often make mistakes before they learn how to do it right.”
Sounds like an excuse that previous Raiders’ management would use to meddle into head coach’s decision making, JB.
Oh, and did previous Raiders’ management ever “do it right”. 9 straight seasons of squat, and no Super Bowl in nearly 30 years. I’ll take Reggie’s way.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:04 am
We will bounce back
September 19th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
I stopped buying Madden a couple of years ago. Still play ‘11. The exclusivity deal between EA Sports and the NFL has ruined NFL themed video games. I’ve talked to hard core gamers that are actually playing NFL video games from 10 years ago, and insist they’re better than the new Maddens, sans obviously the graphics. But the gameplay, strategy, etc, is worlds better.
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The last Madden I have is ‘08, which is also the last one they did for Windows.
And I agree that exclusivity sucks. It was a lot better when Madden, NFL Quarterback Club and NFL Blitz would try to outdo each other every year.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Well, a couple of people already admitted they signed the petition multiple times under different identities.
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Oh, an admission??? kind of like THIS….
Sullivan44 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
“I am not a Raider fan anymore, and not sure I ever was one…I can’t be associated with these losers…My Niner hat looks better and better.”
Is that the type of admission you’re referring to???lol
September 19th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Great white sharks spotted up and down the Monterey Bay
Write your own punchline.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I think so too, McFadden20. I like what the coaches are doing long term. Even Knapp, as unpopular as that is to say. They’re using the Green Bay model, which, to an extent, is the Ron Wolf model, which the Raiders used a lot of in the glory years. It’s a system based on consistent, high percentage, ball control game planning and great football players, the kind that like to run through walls, and where those players rise to the top of the depth chart, no ifs ands or buts. With an entire organizational overhaul we’re going to hit some bumps in the road this year. But I really think we’ll be on the to tier of the league next year, and maybe a Super Bowl within a few years, depending on what we do long term with the QB position.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Duck, I bought an x-box because they stopped making Madden on PC. Another decision by EA that turned me off to their product. I’m sticking with ‘11, in protest. The gameplay and graphics are good enough. Updated rosters? It’s all imagination, anyway. And you can always start your own franchise, which I enjoy.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 12:02 am
“I’ll take Reggie’s way”.
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Of course that’s your choice. If you are happy with 0-2 and a very good shot at 0-16 based on what we’ve seen to date. But aren’t you the 49er fan? That would explain a lot.
AD didn’t allow the HC to pick any assistants. I suggested a variant of that – allowing DA to pick all the defensive assistants. That’s not the same as AD days, not even close. If DA were an experienced HC like Grueden, then I’d support he have total control but that’s not the case DA is a raw rookie HC and young to boot. His picking his friend Knapp as OC shows he’s able to make dumb mistakes. Now he’ll have to pay for it in spades. If he goes 0-16 or 1-15 he won’t survive, he’ll be fired. Dumb decisions have far reaching implications.
Can you say without a doubt that DA wouldn’t be better off if Reggie did it he way I suggested?
September 19th, 2012 at 12:15 am
JB Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 12:02 am
“I’ll take Reggie’s way”.
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Of course that’s your choice. If you are happy with 0-2 and a very good shot at 0-16 based on what we’ve seen to date. But aren’t you the 49er fan? That would explain a lot.
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lol
September 19th, 2012 at 12:16 am
JB,
I’m not happy with 0-2. I just think it’s laughable to panic at 0-2.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Sullivan44 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
“I am not a Raider fan anymore, and not sure I ever was one…I can’t be associated with these losers…My Niner hat looks better and better.”
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Sullivan actually had the nerve to come in here tonight trying to talk about people “ADMITTING” things in here…
ROTFL!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:19 am
JB,
In modern NFL history, what percentage of 0-2 teams do you think wind up tanking at 1-15?
You’re panicking. And it’s laughable.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Goodnight, gentlemen. Good discussion, JB, even though we disagree.
Armchair, what can I say, kiddo? It was good until you flipped out. Guess all I can say is go Niners! j/k.
Goodnight.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Goodnight, gentlemen. Good discussion, JB, even though we disagree.
Armchair, what can I say, kiddo? It was good until you flipped out. Guess all I can say is go Niners! j/k.
Goodnight.
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I flipped out?
ROTFLMAO!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:27 am
Sullivan44 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 12:16 am
JB,
I’m not happy with 0-2. I just think it’s laughable to panic at 0-2.
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Not panicking at all. I just am able to recognize a problem when I see it. Just call it problem solving.
In our case, our team has a stage 1 terminal disease. There are choices to be made once the problem has been identified: Do nothing and let it progress to a stage where the patient dies, or apply medication hoping to slow down the disease’s effects or go in there and cut it out so the patient can survive and achieve good things going forward.
IMO, Knapp is a proven failure as an OC – not just here but everywhere he’s been. I think the best solution is to remove him to a place where can do no further harm.
Reggie & DA can do as they wish, it’s their team. But, if they continue this course, they will lose the locker room & the fan base. That picture serves no one’s best interest.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Guess everybody left – Nite all…
September 19th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Goodnite JB…
If you sprinkle a little salt on a slug, it will wither up and slither away…lol
September 19th, 2012 at 1:40 am
Just heard the sad news about Steve Sabol.For the Brits who started watching football in the 80’s Steve has a special place in our hearts.
A sad day – r.i.p.Steve.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:23 am
Be creative for Pete’s sake!!!!
Trade Tommy Kelly
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@Jhill
two things.
#1 Knapp is the most conservative, run-oriented OC in the league. Always has been. thats his reputation. I could have told you that 5 years ago. You dont hire an OC (and we paid him big bucks according to John Clayton) give him complete control of the offense, undermind him and then fire him before midseason. Thats a straight up Al Davis move. Thats exactly why coaches avoided Oakland for so long. no patience. no job security. Dennis Allen is a smart guy. He knew what he was getting in GK. Why he was hired? I couldnt tell ya. I know the choices were slim for DA when Reggie finally hired him as HC. teams denied him permission to interview their assistants so late into the offseason. This isnt defending Knapp, because I dont think he’s doing a good job by any means. Just dont expect him to change what he is. Thats like asking Ryan, Marshall or Bresnahan to go emulate what Dick LeBeau is doing.
#2 Tommy Kelly had 2 dumb penalties against SD, followed by a no-show performance in Miami. He just restructured his contract to the league minimum. Now he’s a player with a tradeable contract that actually has trade value. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see him traded before the deadline. I bet Reggie is exploring his options
September 19th, 2012 at 5:29 am
So last year’s home game against San Diego and road game against Miami, we were outscored by 32 points.
This year, we lowered it to 30 points.
Progress!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:30 am
I see Clark Haggans got suspended 3 games for DUI. Does that mean DHB is going to be suspended eventually?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders avg starting field position is worst in NFL at 19.3 yard line. Opponents avg start is also worst at 33.9 yard line
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This stat is a killer.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:38 am
No turnovers created will kill your field position like that.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:38 am
No turnovers created will kill your field position like that.
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Plus terrible special teams play.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Whats up yall.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Good day Riff. Just chilling like a Swede.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:55 am
You guys laid off the WikiLeaks dude yet or are y’all still pursuing that BS?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Who is this WikiLeaks dude?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:13 am
342.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:38 am
No turnovers created will kill your field position like that.
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I’m not a ZOMG FIRE ALLEN guy and I’m a big Tarver fan, but I thought their defense would be ballhawking, turnover generating type
Of course to play that you need ballhawks and we have…none.
Mornin’ Nation
September 19th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Okay, so I put together a list of 5 college players at positions where we either need serious help or a lot more depth. Not all of these guys are first rounders…some could be had on the 3rd day. Wanted to get a good mix. Asterik denotes a guy with a year of eligibility left who may not declare. I left off a few obvious names to try to dredge up some sleeper prospect types.
QB:
*Aaron Murray, Georgia
Geno Smith, WVU
*Tyler Bray, Tennessee
Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
Landry Jones, Oklahoma
DT:
*Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State
Jonathan Jenkins, Georgia
Jesse Williams, Alabama
*Sharrif Floyd, Florida
Star Lotulelei, Utah
DE:
*Sam Montgomery, LSU
*Bjoern Werner, Florida State
Alex Okafor, Texas
*William Gholston, Michigan State
*Kareem Martin, North Carolina
CB:
*Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
*DeMarcus Milliner, Alabama
Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
Micah Hyde, Iowa
OT:
*Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
Brennan Williams, North Carolina
Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin
Alex Hurst, LSU
Oday Aboushi, Virginia
TE:
*Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
Joseph Fauria, UCLA
Philip Lutzenkirchen, Auburn
*Dion Sims, Michigan State
*Jordan Reed, Florida
OLB:
*Jarvis Jones, Georgia
Chase Thomas, Stanford
*Jonathan Brown, Illinois
*CJ Mosley, Alabama
Gerald Hodges, Penn State
MLB
Manti Teo’, Notre Dame
*Alec Ogletree, Georgia
*Tom Wort, Oklahoma
*Andrew Jackson, Western Kentucky
*Chris Borland, Wisconsin
OG
Barrett Jones, Alabama
Chance Warmack, Alabama
Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
Braden Hansen, BYU
RB:
Montee Ball, Wisconsin
*Joseph Randle, Oklahoma State
Stephan Taylor, Stanford
Andre Ellington, Clemson
Ray Graham, Pitt
WR:
*Robert Woods, USC
*Keenan Allen, Cal
Terrance Williams, Baylor
*DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
*Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
September 19th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Who is this WikiLeaks dude?
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Too much to list here. Go to their site and read up on it.
Basically he is a journalist that exposed some war crimes our military did, and we’ve been trying to get him ever since. We’re currently using Sweden as our pawn to illegally try and exdradite him out of the U.K. even tho he has been given asylum in Ecuador. Those are the cliff notes. Its much uglier when you get into detail.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:55 am
You guys laid off the WikiLeaks dude yet or are y’all still pursuing that BS?
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Klas like Julian Assange. Klas aint hassling that cat.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Wow, beautiful morning over here in South Eastern Pennsylvania, fellas, lets stop this whole self loathing there’s always next year rebuilding crap!!! Lets F*****G go baby!!!! Lets fu**ing goo!!! Bring it on Big Ben lets Go RAIDERS!!!!! COMMON!!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Tom Cable’s ZBS has Marshawn Lynch averaging 4.4 yards a carry.
Fire Frank Pollack.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:26 am
PA,
Where are the safeties?
I have been massively impressed with this Barron dude at Tampa, we need one of those beastly SEC type Safeties, IMO.
If we are picking in the top 5 or 10 this year, look for an edge rusher or safety.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:26 am
PA,
Where are the safeties?
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You know, I actually made that list before the Miami game when safety play went to sch!t. I will update.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
JFB,
Working quickly, here’s yer safties:
Safety:
*Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma
*Eric Reid, LSU
T.J. McDonald, USC
Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
*Matt Elam, Florida
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I should point out that none of those guys have Barron’s upside and I would not take any of them with a top 16 pick.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Think I will start Big Ben in my fantasy league this week.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:32 am
358.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Think I will start Big Ben in my fantasy league this week.
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I’d do it and not think twice about it
September 19th, 2012 at 6:34 am
What was the name of the undersized LSU safety some of the semis here were touting ?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:37 am
360.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:34 am
What was the name of the undersized LSU safety some of the semis here were touting ?
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Tyrann Mathieu probably.
He was kicked off the football team for failing drug tests and is sitting out this year. No one knows if he’ll play one more season of college ball next year (apparently Les Miles has expressed a willingness to take him back next year if he’s cleaned up his act) or declare for the draft in April.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:37 am
The Honey Badger is not a top-flight NFL prospect outside of a kick returner, IMO.
That McDonald dude at SC is Tim McDonald’s son, got to like that pedigree.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:37 am
The Honey Badger is not a top-flight NFL prospect outside of a kick returner, IMO.
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I think he could handle slot corner/fill in safety duties well enough. But not an every down corner or safety, no.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Haggans was suspended 3 games for his DUI, but it is his second of his career.
DHB is safe, for now.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Honey Badger = Javier Arenas
Slot guy, decent blitzer, undersized, good kick returner.
Although Arenas is a good dude and Tyranne is a dope
September 19th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Thanks Riff!
Any word on any of the players that they worked out yesterday?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:42 am
You know it’s bad when draft talk commences in week 3.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I loved Dr_Robert’s take on Rolando.
That he watches him on every play because he hates him.
I am sure that is some non-biased film sessions, lol.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I feel like a guy trying to plug 20 holes with 10 fingers. lol
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I feel like that when I’m surrounded by a bunch of cuties!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Still high on Aaron Murray, JFB ?
Is he going rd 1 ?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:44 am
366.hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Thanks Riff!
Any word on any of the players that they worked out yesterday?
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I haven’t heard anything…probably won’t know until the media window at practice today when Cork-JerryMac-Tafur get a look at new faces.
Darius Butler is a guy I’m surprised can’t find work. He showed some real promise his first season with New England before tapering off. Out of that whole list, he’d be the guy I’d sign.
Antwaun Molden and Kevin Thomas wouldn’t be horrible choices.
Hell, sign all 3. Nowhere to go but up.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:44 am
367.morilla Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:42 am
You know it’s bad when draft talk commences in week 3.
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The Raiders could be the best team in pro football and I’d still talk draft in week 3.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:45 am
CVRaider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I spoke to wiz 1.0 today. He said he quit because he didnt want to ruin his reputation by coaching the worst o line in the nfl!…………..Obviously i didn’t speak to him, but im sure thats part of the reason why.
I just watched nfl game rewind coaches film, this o line is a joke. Always 3 yards behind the line, always on the ground, always missing bocks and always alowing defenders to shed blocks and make tackles. MAYBE Barry sanders could average 3 yards a carry, but only him….wait i forgot about Bo. But damn, ZBS or not, if you cant block the man in front of you, the run game will suck. Not to mention how it messes up the passing game. If you have the opportunity to watch the film, go watch, its an embarrassment…..RIP Steve Sabol.
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Very true. Run game troubles are not on McFadden. O-line is getting demolished on virtually every play.
Saw a stat posted on Twitter yesterday from one of the beat writers that, on average, first contact on McFadden on runs last year was 3.0 yards down field. This year, it’s 0.7. That means there are literally ZERO holes opening on the line.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:45 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:32 am
358.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Think I will start Big Ben in my fantasy league this week.
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I’d do it and not think twice about it
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In fact I would start most Steeler offensive players this week!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Still high on Aaron Murray, JFB ?
Is he going rd 1 ?
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I am, I like guys that face adversity in college, more so than guys like Matt Leinart who have it somewhat easy.
Murray plays on a very talented Georgia team, but gets his tail whipped playing ‘Bama and LSU every year, and continues to fight on.
I think he is a guy, depending on combine/measurable’s stuff, who could go in the 15-35 range.
He could go back to school though if he doesn’t like what he is hearing.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Dr_Rob’s got Slo-mania. Just a different type than you.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:48 am
I said this yesterday, Miami has not allowed a 100 yd rusher in 16 straight games, their run D is legit, I hope this is the week the O line gets their ish together..Brisiel is a bum though, another whiff by Reggie
September 19th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Chris In NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:45 am
CVRaider Says:
September 18th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I spoke to wiz 1.0 today. He said he quit because he didnt want to ruin his reputation by coaching the worst o line in the nfl!…………..Obviously i didn’t speak to him, but im sure thats part of the reason why.
I just watched nfl game rewind coaches film, this o line is a joke. Always 3 yards behind the line, always on the ground, always missing bocks and always alowing defenders to shed blocks and make tackles. MAYBE Barry sanders could average 3 yards a carry, but only him….wait i forgot about Bo. But damn, ZBS or not, if you cant block the man in front of you, the run game will suck. Not to mention how it messes up the passing game. If you have the opportunity to watch the film, go watch, its an embarrassment…..RIP Steve Sabol.
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Very true. Run game troubles are not on McFadden. O-line is getting demolished on virtually every play.
Saw a stat posted on Twitter yesterday from one of the beat writers that, on average, first contact on McFadden on runs last year was 3.0 yards down field. This year, it’s 0.7. That means there are literally ZERO holes opening on the line.
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Kinda funny how everyone that is watching the tape is seeing the same things.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
The Raiders snag Aaron Murray, I will do a happy Snoopy dance
Been looking around for a comparable and the best I can find is late-career Rich Gannon. Accurate, good decision making, surprisingly athletic when he has to run.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
I had always assumed the ‘Autumn Wind’ thing was just some ancient mariner poem that they had just used for a piece on the Raiders.
He will definitely be missed.
He made the NFL and the Raiders larger than life for a young kid from the midwest.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I feel like a guy trying to plug 20 holes with 10 fingers. lol
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I feel like that when I’m surrounded by a bunch of cuties!
Right?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Carlisle should be benched already, he is a bum past his prime, in fact he should be cut today
September 19th, 2012 at 6:51 am
That was a pretty good call you made on Ponder the other year.
Saw one of his games at FSU affter you mentioned him and couldn’t see him getting drafted in the first.
I’ve seen Murray in action a few times and like him. Didn’t play that great against Cousins and Mich St last year though.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:52 am
381.hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I feel like a guy trying to plug 20 holes with 10 fingers. lol
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I feel like that when I’m surrounded by a bunch of cuties!
Right?
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LOL
I’ve had some fun damn times in my day, but never had 10 holes at once to try to plug
September 19th, 2012 at 6:52 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:44 am
366.hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Thanks Riff!
Any word on any of the players that they worked out yesterday?
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I haven’t heard anything…probably won’t know until the media window at practice today when Cork-JerryMac-Tafur get a look at new faces.
Darius Butler is a guy I’m surprised can’t find work. He showed some real promise his first season with New England before tapering off. Out of that whole list, he’d be the guy I’d sign.
Antwaun Molden and Kevin Thomas wouldn’t be horrible choices.
Hell, sign all 3. Nowhere to go but up.
That is true! I was surprised myself to see Butler on that list…but what happened that makes him unemployed at this point though!
What about Andre Carter for the second time around (dam, isn’t that a Shalamar song)?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:53 am
382.boss01 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Carlisle should be benched already, he is a bum past his prime, in fact he should be cut today
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They need to move Carlisle back to RG and bench Brisiel or put Bergstrom in at LG and bench Carlisle.
The o-line is at the point where it cannot get any worse by trying the rookie.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Palmer is # 3 in the NFL in passing yards…just ahead of Brees.
Means nothing of course. Too many incompletions.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:52 am
381.hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I feel like a guy trying to plug 20 holes with 10 fingers. lol
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I feel like that when I’m surrounded by a bunch of cuties!
Right?
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LOL
I’ve had some fun damn times in my day, but never had 10 holes at once to try to plug
LOL! This generation seems to think that though…gosh, I live with one, but around girls, he turns into Jar Jar Binks!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Nice you tube video of some Raider dummies fighting in bathroom at San Diego game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DA5hK9UcnQg
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
That is true! I was surprised myself to see Butler on that list…but what happened that makes him unemployed at this point though!
What about Andre Carter for the second time around (dam, isn’t that a Shalamar song)?
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I have no idea why Butler isn’t at least someone’s dime corner. It’d odd.
If Carter’s healthy, they’d better do it. He brings it on every play and we need some kind of pass rush.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:55 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
I had always assumed the ‘Autumn Wind’ thing was just some ancient mariner poem that they had just used for a piece on the Raiders.
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Same here. Had no idea Sabol authored that.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Can’t watch the video Klas, but was that involving an older guy wearing a Phillip Rivers jersey?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:56 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
That is true! I was surprised myself to see Butler on that list…but what happened that makes him unemployed at this point though!
What about Andre Carter for the second time around (dam, isn’t that a Shalamar song)?
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I have no idea why Butler isn’t at least someone’s dime corner. It’d odd.
If Carter’s healthy, they’d better do it. He brings it on every play and we need some kind of pass rush.
I agree!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:56 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:52 am
381.hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I feel like a guy trying to plug 20 holes with 10 fingers. lol
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I feel like that when I’m surrounded by a bunch of cuties!
Right?
++++++++++++++++++++++++
LOL
I’ve had some fun damn times in my day, but never had 10 holes at once to try to plug
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I was blessed with one threesome in my day. Wouldn’t mind another one! I’ve been working the wife on the idea for years now lol!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Why did they pass on Carter the first time around? Too much risk with the past injury? I didn’t hear.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:58 am
How did you guys NOT know that Sabol authored the Autumn Wind. SMH.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Nice you tube video of some Raider dummies fighting in bathroom at San Diego game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DA5hK9UcnQg
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That vid is classic.
Like a slip n slide in there. HAHAHAHAHA.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Can’t watch the video Klas, but was that involving an older guy wearing a Phillip Rivers jersey?
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Nope. It was two Raider fans fighting each other.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:58 am
How did you guys NOT know that Sabol authored the Autumn Wind. SMH.
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Cause none of us played college ball I guess.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:01 am
but around girls, he turns into Jar Jar Binks!
389.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Nice you tube video of some Raider dummies fighting in bathroom at San Diego game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DA5hK9UcnQg
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that’s the kind of stuff that gets me ranked on for being a Raider fan. (there win/loss record over the last decade isn’t helping matters either)
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Riff just fvckin with you. been watchin you get piled on the last couple days and could not resist. I really think most of your posts are spot on and like reading them. keep it up.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 am
What about the accompanying soundtrack to the Autumn Wind ? Was that composed expressly for NFL Films ?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Can’t watch the video Klas, but was that involving an older guy wearing a Phillip Rivers jersey?
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Nope. It was two Raider fans fighting each other.
That’s the kind of crap that I cringe when I see stuff like that! Aren’t we all supposed to be one big family? I mean serioulsy!!! Many ruin it because they cannot handle their alcohol!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:04 am
It has been used on numerous official NFL Films audio album soundtracks, most notably The Power & The Glory LP featuring Facenda narrating over both it. as well as numerous other Sam Spence-composed and conducted NFL Films Orchestra musical tracks.
Yeah which I thought was cool! This is from Wikipedia!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
386.SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:53 am
382.boss01 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Carlisle should be benched already, he is a bum past his prime, in fact he should be cut today
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They need to move Carlisle back to RG and bench Brisiel or put Bergstrom in at LG and bench Carlisle.
The o-line is at the point where it cannot get any worse by trying the rookie.
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Brisiel is a bum too, Carlisle is too old, he should not be in the NFL
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
I know most of you feel this way!
If our girlfriend or wife cheated on us, we would dumb them, try and fvck their best friend and go find some hottie to replace her.
If the Raiders Fvck us, we can not leave them and we keep coming back for more and more. WTF??
I really hope the O line gets their collective heads out of their arsses and makes some progress this week.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
30 seconds of Autumn Wind is 100 x more effective than Ice Cube’s Raider song.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:07 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 am
What about the accompanying soundtrack to the Autumn Wind ? Was that composed expressly for NFL Films ?
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I think it was. I just saw a piece on NFLN that said that Sabol had his own orchestra for those films.
I think they used that music for Autumn Wind not just for Raiders though…I could be wrong on that.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:08 am
30 seconds of anything, including shock therapy is better than an Ice Cube song.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Jesusraiderjim Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Riff just fvckin with you. been watchin you get piled on the last couple days and could not resist. I really think most of your posts are spot on and like reading them. keep it up.
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No worries Jim. I knew u were just joking.
For every person piling on me, I consider the source and laugh it off. I knew my stances wouldnt be popular, the truth never is.
There have also been a few people who have come on and say that my rant was the single best post ever made here.
I’ll take the good with the bad.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:08 am
387.DJ Johnny Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Palmer is # 3 in the NFL in passing yards…just ahead of Brees.
Means nothing of course. Too many incompletions.
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How many of those passes travelled more than 15 yds? How many of those yds are in the red zone?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
407.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
30 seconds of Autumn Wind is 100 x more effective than Ice Cube’s Raider song.
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100% this.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Some guy with a tuba playing Autumn Wind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exUfDbIoNoE
September 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Good morning victims!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Just could not resist and yes the truth does not set well with many of these people.
I for one do not know why I expected things to be so much better this year. Too much kool aid I guess. I been a fan for 45 years and keep coming back for more. Win Lose Tie Raider On Til I Die.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
30 seconds of Autumn Wind is 100 x more effective than Ice Cube’s Raider song.
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Ice Cube’s just doing what he knows to do. He’s a big time fan…
He’s sick of losing…like alot of us.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
If the Raiders Fvck us, we can not leave them and we keep coming back for more and more. WTF??
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It’s in my DNA, man. I wouldn’t even know how to root for another team.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
I can thankfully say I don’t know any Ice Cube songs.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
In my completely unbiased opinion, Briesel has bee massively worse than Savage.
And lo and behold, two games, zero penalties from Cooper.
I think he is going to go for a 16 game goose egg.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
neilb Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Good morning victims!!
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Morning…haha. That is so appropriate. Victims…
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
How many of you guys remember Raiders rap video from 1986?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8
September 19th, 2012 at 7:13 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
If the Raiders Fvck us, we can not leave them and we keep coming back for more and more. WTF??
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It’s in my DNA, man. I wouldn’t even know how to root for another team.
Exactly! Because of work, I have to wear “other” colors, but I tell ya, if I could, I would wear black everyday!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Yeah Riff, I appreciate your annalysis. It’s not “HARD” to see what’s happening with the team. I think the hard part is actually stomaching that our guys -as a whole- aren’t as good as I thought they were.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:13 am
419.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
In my completely unbiased opinion, Briesel has bee massively worse than Savage.
And lo and behold, two games, zero penalties from Cooper.
I think he is going to go for a 16 game goose egg.
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Bergstrom in at LG, Cooper back to RG, Brisiel on the bench until the offseason and then the axe. Works for me.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Is there a support group we can get into? SMH
Oh yeah there is it’s called the win column
September 19th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
How many of you guys remember Raiders rap video from 1986?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8
That is actually pretty funny! I remember that one big time! Teh Silver and Black Attack!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Jesusraiderjim Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Just could not resist and yes the truth does not set well with many of these people.
I for one do not know why I expected things to be so much better this year. Too much kool aid I guess. I been a fan for 45 years and keep coming back for more. Win Lose Tie Raider On Til I Die.
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My girlfriend keeps asking me why I take football so seriously. She keeps trying to tell me that football is just a game. I tell her that it is just a game for a Seahawks fan. But Im not a Seahawks fan like her. Im a member of the Raider Nation. The one, and only Nation (there is no such thing as a Red Sox Nation). This isnt just football for us. When you say you are a member of the Nation, it doesnt just tell someone who you root for, it says something about who you are as a person. It says that you arent afraid to go it your own way, you arent afraid to think for yourself, that you dont give a rats a55 about race color or creed, just if you can get the job done. To this day, I still dont know who influenced who. Am I a Raider fan because I identified with their beliefs? Or did Al Davis’ philosophies influence me? Either way, it doesnt matter. Im glued to this for life. But Im not glued to this losing. I appreciate all that Al did for us, but Im no longer going to apologize for him or the losing culture that has permeated our locker room and fan base.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:14 am
421.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
How many of you guys remember Raiders rap video from 1986?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8
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I’ve got the 12″ record.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Nice shot of Reggie singing at 1:27 in that video.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
30 seconds of Autumn Wind is 100 x more effective than Ice Cube’s Raider song.
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Ice Cube’s Raider song is of a lower quality than anything ever recorded by WWF/WWE wrestlers. Junk Yard Dog’s “Grab Them Cakes” is light years better than Cube’s song.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Klas still has some of the lyric memorized he watched it so many times.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Neilb Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:14 am
421.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
How many of you guys remember Raiders rap video from 1986?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8
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I’ve got the 12″ record.
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I get reminded of that old rap song all the time. Ugh.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
I’m pretty sure it was Ed Sabol that came up with the idea of microphoning a coach on the sideline, and that Hank Stram in SBIV was the first.
That was great stuff. Always enjoy that immensely.
‘looks like a chinese fire drill out there’
‘keep matriculating the ball downfield boys’
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Is there a support group we can get into?
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That made me laugh more than Dakotas’ song from yesterday!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Jesusraiderjim Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:58 am
How did you guys NOT know that Sabol authored the Autumn Wind. SMH.
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Cause none of us played college ball I guess.
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ROFLMAO
That’s funny!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
So now it’s the lack of talent on our players to blame for the Offensive struggles, uh?.
This isn’t a pro-Hue post, we’re way past that, it’s just evidence that pretty much the same players (actually, we have better players now with a full-time Palmer and healthy McFadden) were able to produce a very good Offense the last 2 years.
Hue Jackson’s Offense AVERAGED 24 ppg. in 2 years here, that places us just outside the top 10 in the League over the same period and it’s a far cry from the 12 ppg the offense scored the year before Hue arrived and the 13 we’re scoring after 2 games.
You also have to consider that…
4 different QB’s started at least 1 game or played meaningful snaps: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missed 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players started games at WR or saw significant snaps: DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, TJ Housh and JLH.
4 different TE’s started games or saw significant snaps: Zach Miller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
And those numbers came while transitioning from 2 different blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL, in 2011 we brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Yes there were ups and downs and some ugly stretches but overall that was a very good offense that overcame a lot of problems to kept us in position to make the playoffs.
- So don’t tell me we don’t have enough talent, this Offense has produced before and that is a fact.
The OL was run-blocking fine too, 2 straight top 10 finishes prove it, we chose to tinker with it and it looks like it backfired, we could have resigned Satele and keep it intact, but we gave more money to Brisiel and messed with it.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
How about Mr. T’s love your mother??
I am sure Klas can dig up the youtube clip. Some sweet azz socks Mr. T was rocking!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I can’t run fast and I’m not too tall but I’ve got hands that stick to the ball.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Uhmm are we past the Offense argument?.
I missed most of yesterday’s posts so maybe I got stuck in that topic.
I see Draft talk is on, sorry.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
The more I think about things, the more irked I get with McFadden.
Yeah, the o-line is blocking for sch!t. We all know that.
But the McFadden of the last two years would run right the fck over the first tackler. Sometimes two. These past two games, there’s no fight when he gets hit or he runs out of bounds.
What gives, Darren?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Even Tom Flores raps! LOL
September 19th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I think with Reggie it’s a matter of him thinking that Raider fans are just so happy that Al Davis is gone and we are gonna lap up whatever they decide to do right now….and most of us are.
If he was truly interested in winning now, and it was so dam important to do this “the right way”, why did he hire a guy who has zero experience as a HC to be the one to lead this transition?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:20 am
If a comment is “awaiting moderation” is it not viewable by the other semis?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
So now it’s the lack of talent on our players to blame for the Offensive struggles, uh?.
This isn’t a pro-Hue post, we’re way past that, it’s just evidence that pretty much the same players (actually, we have better players now with a full-time Palmer and healthy McFadden) were able to produce a very good Offense the last 2 years.
Hue Jackson’s Offense AVERAGED 24 ppg. in 2 years here, that places us just outside the top 10 in the League over the same period and it’s a far cry from the 12 ppg the offense scored the year before Hue arrived and the 13 we’re scoring after 2 games.
You also have to consider that…
4 different QB’s started at least 1 game or played meaningful snaps: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missed 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players started games at WR or saw significant snaps: DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, TJ Housh and JLH.
4 different TE’s started games or saw significant snaps: Zach Miller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
And those numbers came while transitioning from 2 different blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL, in 2011 we brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Yes there were ups and downs and some ugly stretches but overall that was a very good offense that overcame a lot of problems to kept us in position to make the playoffs.
- So don’t tell me we don’t have enough talent, this Offense has produced before and that is a fact.
The OL was run-blocking fine too, 2 straight top 10 finishes prove it, we chose to tinker with it and it looks like it backfired, we could have resigned Satele and keep it intact, but we gave more money to Brisiel and messed with it.
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Bob Marley, as usual, nails it.
Bob always gets it right.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
The more I think about things, the more irked I get with McFadden.
Yeah, the o-line is blocking for sch!t. We all know that.
But the McFadden of the last two years would run right the fck over the first tackler. Sometimes two. These past two games, there’s no fight when he gets hit or he runs out of bounds.
What gives, Darren?
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No rythmn. RBs need to get in a groove.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
I guess every NFL team were making rap videos back in 80s. Miami Dolphins rip off of MC Hammer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJvTWmUYTII&feature=related
September 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Chris In NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
So now it’s the lack of talent on our players to blame for the Offensive struggles, uh?.
This isn’t a pro-Hue post, we’re way past that, it’s just evidence that pretty much the same players (actually, we have better players now with a full-time Palmer and healthy McFadden) were able to produce a very good Offense the last 2 years.
Hue Jackson’s Offense AVERAGED 24 ppg. in 2 years here, that places us just outside the top 10 in the League over the same period and it’s a far cry from the 12 ppg the offense scored the year before Hue arrived and the 13 we’re scoring after 2 games.
You also have to consider that…
4 different QB’s started at least 1 game or played meaningful snaps: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missed 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players started games at WR or saw significant snaps: DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, TJ Housh and JLH.
4 different TE’s started games or saw significant snaps: Zach Miller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
And those numbers came while transitioning from 2 different blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL, in 2011 we brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Yes there were ups and downs and some ugly stretches but overall that was a very good offense that overcame a lot of problems to kept us in position to make the playoffs.
- So don’t tell me we don’t have enough talent, this Offense has produced before and that is a fact.
The OL was run-blocking fine too, 2 straight top 10 finishes prove it, we chose to tinker with it and it looks like it backfired, we could have resigned Satele and keep it intact, but we gave more money to Brisiel and messed with it.
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Bob Marley, as usual, nails it.
Bob always gets it right.
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Bob’s not watching the tape. If he was he wouldnt be raving about our O-Line.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Now almost everyone of us expected this team to get better in 2012, not worst,don’t come saying this team has no talent and we should have expected this debacle, that would be a lie.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I play the corner and I play it great.How do I do it? I intimidate.
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If only it was freaking happenin’ today.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I think with Reggie it’s a matter of him thinking that Raider fans are just so happy that Al Davis is gone and we are gonna lap up whatever they decide to do right now….and most of us are.
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Seriously dude, you are getting on the bizarro extreme here.
How many years in the last 10 did we start 0-2? Like half of them.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Klas, the guy in the tuba video sounds like he was going to have a heart attack! lol
September 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
How about Mr. T’s love your mother??
I am sure Klas can dig up the youtube clip. Some sweet azz socks Mr. T was rocking!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo
September 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Check this out, semis.
This is a 40 second clip illustrating the ZBS ran to perfection. It shows a big run then goes back and diagrams what was going on. And you’ll notice it’s from the Lions back when they were really really terrible so it’s not like this is the 2007 Patriots pulling this off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmZzoy9uNU
Specifically check out around the :27 second mark. The RB cuts and accelerates into the hole before the lane is even there. There’s two Vikings players there waiting to kill him but they get blocked out of the way.
I think McFadden’s waiting for the hole to open up wide before going and he can’t do that.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Now almost everyone of us expected this team to get better in 2012
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Well compared to our home game against San Diego and our road game in Miami last season WE HAVE!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
No rythmn. RBs need to get in a groove.
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I’m not sure he needs to be in a groove to smack into someone.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Bob = Money!!
That’s the truth!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
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My girlfriend keeps asking me why I take football so seriously. She keeps trying to tell me that football is just a game. I tell her that it is just a game for a Seahawks fan. But Im not a Seahawks fan like her. Im a member of the Raider Nation. The one, and only Nation (there is no such thing as a Red Sox Nation). This isnt just football for us. When you say you are a member of the Nation, it doesnt just tell someone who you root for, it says something about who you are as a person. It says that you arent afraid to go it your own way, you arent afraid to think for yourself, that you dont give a rats a55 about race color or creed, just if you can get the job done. To this day, I still dont know who influenced who. Am I a Raider fan because I identified with their beliefs? Or did Al Davis’ philosophies influence me? Either way, it doesnt matter. Im glued to this for life. But Im not glued to this losing. I appreciate all that Al did for us, but Im no longer going to apologize for him or the losing culture that has permeated our locker room and fan base.
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Awesome post man!
Thanx for reminding me of those things during these tough times!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I wonder why is it so dam important to install this wco/zbs stuff right away?
It doesn’t make sound, practical sense. Why just throw away a season?
Wouldn’t the practical thing be to keep what is working offensively and THEN acquire the personnel that fit the scheme?
What law says they have to install this new system NOW. Why the panic and rush to do that? There ARE other teams that are not using it yet and doing ok.
It may be the wave of the future…fine, but why rush it on players who aren’t suited for it?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Riff.
“Bob’s not watching the tape. If he was he wouldnt be raving about our O-Line.”
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I’m not raving about our O-Line!, the 2010 and 2011 versions yes, numbers show they were good….not the 2012 version.
We tinkered with it and it backfired, I just said that.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
But the McFadden of the last two years would run right the fck over the first tackler. Sometimes two. These past two games, there’s no fight when he gets hit or he runs out of bounds.
What gives, Darren?
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He almost seems like he’s making an attempt to play smarter NOT harder. I think he realizes he needs to make it through the season this year and it might be effecting his play slightly…ie: going out of bounds, laying down after contact. Plus, frustration kicked in. You can see it on his face and body language. Running full speed into a wall is a sign of that too. I mean, on the one play he went left “No HOLE” “No cutback”, he reversed his field, stiff armed 3 defenders to the ground and had a swarm closing in on him. He ran about 30-40 yards just to gain 2. It’s gotta be killin him.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
49ers rap video featuring Roger Craig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsiFd5tYqk
September 19th, 2012 at 7:27 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
The more I think about things, the more irked I get with McFadden.
Yeah, the o-line is blocking for sch!t. We all know that.
But the McFadden of the last two years would run right the fck over the first tackler. Sometimes two. These past two games, there’s no fight when he gets hit or he runs out of bounds.
What gives, Darren?
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The line is just getting no push whatsoever. I posted earlier that, on average, the first defender is contacting McFadden .7 yards past the LOS this year as opposed to 3.0 yards pas the LOS last year.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:28 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
No rythmn. RBs need to get in a groove.
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I’m not sure he needs to be in a groove to smack into someone.
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C’mon. Lets not act like we havent seen him already stiff arm a few dudes this year.
You want to see him rip off a 60 yarder and break 4 tackles in the process, he’s gotta get in a rhythm. Most people wont realize that but RBs are not different than any other athlete.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:28 am
The hits keep coming! Redskins rap from 1986!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKwGbN_6-K8
September 19th, 2012 at 7:29 am
I can understand being a little frustrated, but that doesn’t give McFadden the right to turn into Franco Harris and cadillac it OOB on a screen pass short of the first down, with the game and our season crumbling before our eyes.
Does Goodson have more yards from scrimmage than Darren so far this season? Has to be close.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:29 am
I can understand being a little frustrated, but that doesn’t give McFadden the right to turn into Franco Harris and cadillac it OOB on a screen pass short of the first down, with the game and our season crumbling before our eyes.
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Exactly the point I was trying to make.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Romo going to be on Cowherd in 15 minutes.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:31 am
I just know, the more pissed off I get, or frustrated, I tend to be more mistake proned in ANYTHING I do, whether it be sports/work or whatever. It’s hard to stay focused when not a damn thing seems to be working.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Chris in NY.
“I posted earlier that, on average, the first defender is contacting McFadden .7 yards past the LOS this year as opposed to 3.0 yards pas the LOS last year.”
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There it is, we could have re-signed Satele and keep Veldheer, Wis, Satele, Coop, Barnes, just like last year, but we decided to pay Brisiel instead and switch the interior positions, not good so far.
Then BCZ24 comes and says Brisiel is our best OL and Riff tells us he’s our worst, going by the numbers I’m siding with Riff.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Now almost everyone of us expected this team to get better in 2012
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Well compared to our home game against San Diego and our road game in Miami last season WE HAVE!!!!!!
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September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
theghostronin79 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
But the McFadden of the last two years would run right the fck over the first tackler. Sometimes two. These past two games, there’s no fight when he gets hit or he runs out of bounds.
What gives, Darren?
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He almost seems like he’s making an attempt to play smarter NOT harder. I think he realizes he needs to make it through the season this year and it might be effecting his play slightly…ie: going out of bounds, laying down after contact. Plus, frustration kicked in. You can see it on his face and body language. Running full speed into a wall is a sign of that too. I mean, on the one play he went left “No HOLE” “No cutback”, he reversed his field, stiff armed 3 defenders to the ground and had a swarm closing in on him. He ran about 30-40 yards just to gain 2. It’s gotta be killin him.
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That play right there exemplified where this run game is at. McFadden runs into a wall as soon as he gets the ball about 3-4 yards deep in the backfield. Outruns the first wave. Slaps three defenders to the ground and looks like a pro going against high schoolers and races 30 or 40 yards just to get a 3-yard gain.
McFadden is still an elite back. He’s got the burst. He’s got the speed. He’s got the power. But the o-line is giving him nothing to work with.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
JFB.
I think Goodson lost 5 yards in his 1 carry vs Miami.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
It’s the same players! It’s scheme and coaching. We have a good OL, we lost our C in FA, so let’s move Wiz to C and Cooper to LG.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Bush,
We were outscored in those two games by 32 points last season, only 30 this year, lol.
And the Miami game was 21-13 going into the 4th quarter last week, when it was a whopping 34-0 last year.
Just making an apples to apples comparisions of our two games played this year.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Bob,
Total yards from scrimmage is what I was asking.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Riff.
“Bob’s not watching the tape. If he was he wouldnt be raving about our O-Line.”
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I’m not raving about our O-Line!, the 2010 and 2011 versions yes, numbers show they were good….not the 2012 version.
We tinkered with it and it backfired, I just said that.
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Ok, maybe I overreacted on you a bit.
But it just seemed like your post was feeding into those who think we have the same personel as before yet a vastly different system.
When in fact, we have nearly the same run system but our personel is quite a bit different. Parsons, a hurt Wiz, Breisel, and moving Cooper is quite a big change if you ask me. The only two things that stayed the same were our Tackles. Who get absolutely no help from the TE’s blocking on the outside of them.
Honestly, I think Breisel needs to be benched.
LT – Veldheer
LG – Wiz 2.0
C – Parsons
RG – Coop or Bergstrom
RT – Barnes (reluctantly)
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Klas, You have a lot of time on you hands, Want to give me a hand cleaning my basement?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I feel like Raiders will play well against Steelers. But how in the hell are they going to stop Big Ben from shredding secondary?
Steelers 35
Raidres 24
September 19th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Bush,
We were outscored in those two games by 32 points last season, only 30 this year, lol.
And the Miami game was 21-13 going into the 4th quarter last week, when it was a whopping 34-0 last year.
Just making an apples to apples comparisions of our two games played this year.
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Gothcha
September 19th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Raider O Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
It’s the same players! It’s scheme and coaching. We have a good OL, we lost our C in FA, so let’s move Wiz to C and Cooper to LG.
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Watch the game again and then tell me we have a good OL.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Klas, You have a lot of time on you hands, Want to give me a hand cleaning my basement?
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Sure! Will you pay for my plane ticket from Sweden?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
JFB.
I think Goodson lost 5 yards in his 1 carry vs Miami.
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That’s correct.
Everyone getting a boner over Goodson’s TD needs to settle down. Dude caught a swing pass completely uncovered and the only two defenders with a chance to get him were well blocked (DHB actually may have gotten away with a hold) and Goodson did what he was supposed to do which is run as fast as he can to the end zone.
Nice TD, but it doesn’t tell you a whole lot about the RB who scored.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Two centers, both of whom aren’t great, in two games can’t things much in the run game.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Guys,You can’t have it both ways. I think DMAC is being smart going out of bounds. You do want him to stay off the PUP list right?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Riff.
“Ok, maybe I overreacted on you a bit.
But it just seemed like your post was feeding into those who think we have the same personel as before yet a vastly different system.
When in fact, we have nearly the same run system but our personel is quite a bit different. Parsons, a hurt Wiz, Breisel, and moving Cooper is quite a big change if you ask me. The only two things that stayed the same were our Tackles. Who get absolutely no help from the TE’s blocking on the outside of them.”
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I’m absolutely aware of that fact, I have never said we brought back the same OL, I have said we COULD have brought back the same unit at the same positions and we chose not to, we messed with it and it’s not working.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Goodson caught the pass, which in itself was a step in the right direction for our RB’s.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
At least Goodson, so far has fixed his fumble issue! Well…we’ll see as the year goes on!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Chris in NY.
“I posted earlier that, on average, the first defender is contacting McFadden .7 yards past the LOS this year as opposed to 3.0 yards pas the LOS last year.”
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There it is, we could have re-signed Satele and keep Veldheer, Wis, Satele, Coop, Barnes, just like last year, but we decided to pay Brisiel instead and switch the interior positions, not good so far.
Then BCZ24 comes and says Brisiel is our best OL and Riff tells us he’s our worst, going by the numbers I’m siding with Riff.
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The numbers are for people who dont have the time to watch the tape. Numbers can lie sometimes. The tape never does.
I broke down ever series yesterday while watching the game. Every single one. Go re-read my posts while watching the game if any of you dont believe it.
Breisel was getting b!tch slapped every which way.
I was watching his play specifically with the OLine as well as the often maligned Kelly and Seymore. Whom btw, are playing their positions good despite what you read from the semis that hate the two guys. When Kelly isnt jumping offsides, he’s a good DT.
Then you got those who are calling for Dez Bryant. I just shake my head. He kissed face masks with Tannenhill and then let him go. It maybe was the most bizzare play of the game.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Players to consider in the 1st.
CB: Xavier Rhodes
DE: Brandon Jenkins (out for the season)
NT/ DT: Johnathan Hankins (Go Buckeyes)!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Riff.
“Ok, maybe I overreacted on you a bit.
But it just seemed like your post was feeding into those who think we have the same personel as before yet a vastly different system.
When in fact, we have nearly the same run system but our personel is quite a bit different. Parsons, a hurt Wiz, Breisel, and moving Cooper is quite a big change if you ask me. The only two things that stayed the same were our Tackles. Who get absolutely no help from the TE’s blocking on the outside of them.”
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I’m absolutely aware of that fact, I have never said we brought back the same OL, I have said we COULD have brought back the same unit at the same positions and we chose not to, we messed with it and it’s not working.
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Gotcha.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Raider O Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Players to consider in the 1st.
CB: Xavier Rhodes
DE: Brandon Jenkins (out for the season)
NT/ DT: Johnathan Hankins (Go Buckeyes)!
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No O-lineman? Or you wanna address that in free agency?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Klas, You have a lot of time on you hands, Want to give me a hand cleaning my basement?
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Sure! Will you pay for my plane ticket from Sweden?
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I will start saving my frequent flyer miles now.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Guys,You can’t have it both ways. I think DMAC is being smart going out of bounds. You do want him to stay off the PUP list right?
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What good is a healthy McFadden going into a game as a 2-7 team?
I would rather be 4-3 and try to figure things with him on PUP.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:41 am
JFB,
McFadden has a total of 159 yards from scrimmage. Goodson has 90.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Then you got those who are calling for Dez Bryant. I just shake my head. He kissed face masks with Tannenhill and then let him go. It maybe was the most bizzare play of the game.
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Was going to say “Joselio Hanson having Reggie Bush dead to rights but someone coming up with empty air”…but that was pathetic, not bizarre.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Raider O Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Players to consider in the 1st.
CB: Xavier Rhodes
DE: Brandon Jenkins (out for the season)
NT/ DT: Johnathan Hankins (Go Buckeyes)!
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STOP IT, STOP IT NOW! NO MORE DRAFT TALK! IT’S ONLY WEEK 3!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Riff,
Not in the 1st.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
486.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Goodson caught the pass, which in itself was a step in the right direction for our RB’s.
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Haha
Palmer threw that pass to McFadden down near the end zone late, for sure, but there was still no reason for him to drop it.
Franco Harris-ing it out of bounds and dropping gimme passes. SOmething’s wrong with McFadden and I hope it’s not because he’s mentally checked out because he doesn’t like running behind the ZBS and/or this disaster of an offensive line.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Guys,You can’t have it both ways. I think DMAC is being smart going out of bounds. You do want him to stay off the PUP list right?
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What good is a healthy McFadden going into a game as a 2-7 team?
I would rather be 4-3 and try to figure things with him on PUP.
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I think you and I both know DMAC is not the reason we will be 2-7 or in that ballpark.
Just seems to me that this season is all about next season. (It absolutley PAINS me to say that)
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Has anyone ever thought that MAYBE McFadden will never be the player he was in 2010, after this Lis Franc business?
The guy has had turf toe twice, Lis Franc, and a few other injuries, and took a helluva pounding in college.
He may be turning into Stephen Davis right before our eyes.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Raider O Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Riff,
Not in the 1st.
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Gotcha.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
It’s never too early for draft talk.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
496.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Raider O Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Players to consider in the 1st.
CB: Xavier Rhodes
DE: Brandon Jenkins (out for the season)
NT/ DT: Johnathan Hankins (Go Buckeyes)!
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STOP IT, STOP IT NOW! NO MORE DRAFT TALK! IT’S ONLY WEEK 3!
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Can’t speak for anyone else, but the Raiders could hang 70 points a piece on Pittsburgh, Denver and Atlanta and I’d still be talking draft.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:45 am
500.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Has anyone ever thought that MAYBE McFadden will never be the player he was in 2010, after this Lis Franc business?
The guy has had turf toe twice, Lis Franc, and a few other injuries, and took a helluva pounding in college.
He may be turning into Stephen Davis right before our eyes.
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Oh I’ve considered this…but I don’t like to dwell on it because it’ll make me puke if I do.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:45 am
We tinkered with it and it backfired, I just said that.
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The major tinkering would obviously be the ZBS, but it seems apparent that Reggie had decided to revamp the interior of the OLine.
Satele gone, Wiz to center, sign Brisell, draft Bergstrom.
Hard for me to accept that Bergs was considered the best player available. Maybe he was, but the fact that he can’t make the active list on Sundays isn’t a good sign.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I’m not a fan of drafting OL in the 1st unless:
1- it’s a LT
2- not a top 15 pick, and I have a team full of talent and I need an OL.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Re: Post #436: You nailed it Bob…Straight to the head of the class.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Palmer threw that pass to McFadden down near the end zone late, for sure, but there was still no reason for him to drop it.
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The McFadden of 2010 would have caught it with one hand and turned upfield and into the end zone with no problems.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Guys,You can’t have it both ways. I think DMAC is being smart going out of bounds. You do want him to stay off the PUP list right?
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What good is a healthy McFadden going into a game as a 2-7 team?
I would rather be 4-3 and try to figure things with him on PUP.
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Vegas, You really don’t think if there is an oppurtunity for DMAC to break one he won’t go full steam ahead? I believe he knows when to turn it on and when to play it safe.
I really think he’s being smart. It is also possible that missing the motivation/confidence that our last coach inspired in him is not helping matters. Just sayin.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
The McFadden of 2010 would have caught it with one hand and turned upfield and into the end zone with no problems.
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Especially if Slo was trying to tackle him.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
IMO, it is early for draft talk.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 am
This whole “Carson threw it too late” business really chaps me.
So when Lou Murph was held out to dry last year by Soup and Palmer, with late and high throws over the middle, Lou was labeled “Soft” a “puzzy” and “alligator arms”.
When McFadden has the same thing pretty much happen, only the ball actually nailed him in the chest on the pass, he is allowed to sulk because he doesn’t like the direction of the offense after 5 quarters of football?
Double-standard of epic proportions!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:54 am
McFadden doesn’t look as motivated and hungry as he was the last 2 years with Hue. Maybe he is mad about the Scheme and having Knapp back.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Vegas, You really don’t think if there is an oppurtunity for DMAC to break one he won’t go full steam ahead?
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I would have liked to see him try, that’s all I am saying.
That was the most “quit” I have seen from any of our players so far this season.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 am
This whole “Carson threw it too late” business really chaps me.
So when Lou Murph was held out to dry last year by Soup and Palmer, with late and high throws over the middle, Lou was labeled “Soft” a “puzzy” and “alligator arms”.
When McFadden has the same thing pretty much happen, only the ball actually nailed him in the chest on the pass, he is allowed to sulk because he doesn’t like the direction of the offense after 5 quarters of football?
Double-standard of epic proportions!!!
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Your point is solid.
But I dont think DMC is showing any signs of sulking or giving up. He F’d up on that catch, no doubt.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Memo to all: DMAC and Palmer are the least of our worries.
Basically it boils down to us all being FRUSTRATED with everything/everyone that has anything to do with the Raiders. Understandably
September 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Alright guys. Im out.
We’re all so bored right now were starting to imagine and pontificate how motivated DMC is. We’re really running out of things to talk about.
Later.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am
You People are no fun. Where is YA? He enjoys talking draft as much as I do.
Never too early for draft talk.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Memo to all: DMAC and Palmer are the least of our worries.
Basically it boils down to us all being FRUSTRATED with everything/everyone that has anything to do with the Raiders. Understandably
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Bingo. Ok, now Im really leaving.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Yeah, DMAC should have caught it. But Palmer being late screwed it up too. Think DMAC wasn’t fully aware how much room he had left and thought he was running out of real estate to keep his feet in. Screwed his footwork up and caused him to forget about job nbr 1 – catch the freaking ball.
Just another example of poor execution. Like Reese’s toss on the reverse.
Offense is not being run crisply and that’s a reflection on the coaches too.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:01 am
With Steeler injuries, at least Raiders have opportunity to score this week (maybe). Can’t imagine how they are going to stop Steeler passing game, though. Our corners belong in the UFL.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Lol Vegas (most of you know him as JFB) still hating on our one very good player….while still pimpin’ for Slowlando McLazy.
SMH
sad
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am
What the hell happened to Tx? Did he get job? Get arrested?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Lol Vegas (most of you know him as JFB) still hating on our one very good player….while still pimpin’ for Slowlando McLazy.
SMH
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Slo-mania, like liberalism, is mind debilitating.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:07 am
I am concerned about Mlonetree.
I think he may have laid down in a forest somewhere and “returned to Mother Nature”.
I’ll miss that guy!
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 am
At least MLonetree died thinking the Raiders were on the upswing…..he didn’t have the 2012 Raiders slap him in the face with a dose of reality.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 am
At least MLonetree died thinking the Raiders were on the upswing…..he didn’t have the 2012 Raiders slap him in the face with a dose of reality.
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What happened?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I’m concerned about Bo Schem.
Doesn’t seem likely that he’d completely disappear over the Condo thing.
Hope he’s OK.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:14 am
The company that owns the LA Kings, Staples Center, a minority interest in the Lakers, and which is planning to build the LA football stadium is for sale.
I want it.
Think they would take a check?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Steve Sabol,..BFD that he died,..I do not care,..and he did what?…what, continued on what his dad started. Does that make him some friggin genius?…innovator?…baloney, that dude did nothing but inherit a film company and the SAME people doing all the work for his father just kept doing it, but OMG Steve Sabol was a pioneer,..my asss,…he did nothing and I wont mourn him at all…HOWEVER he did one thing right,…when his dad died he didnt do anything stupid like hire some Big Dummy to run it into the ground…I have spoken.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Lol Vegas (most of you know him as JFB) still hating on our one very good player….while still pimpin’ for Slowlando McLazy.
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Slo-Mania had a few coals go out this weekend, but Big Ben is here to through some kindle on that fire!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
If Raiders liked what they saw in any of the guys they worked out wouldn’t we be hearing of a signing by now?
Plus, if they are interested in any of the guys they brought in, don’t they need to be at practice getting ready for Pittsburgh?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
527.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 am
At least MLonetree died thinking the Raiders were on the upswing…..he didn’t have the 2012 Raiders slap him in the face with a dose of reality.
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What happened?
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MLonetree packed a bottle of water and a bag of trail mix, put on his hiking shoes, selected his favorite forest, found the spot with his favorite view and settled down to let Mother Nature take him home….at least that is how I picture it.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Cahier’s, maybe.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:18 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
If Raiders liked what they saw in any of the guys they worked out wouldn’t we be hearing of a signing by now?
Plus, if they are interested in any of the guys they brought in, don’t they need to be at practice getting ready for Pittsburgh
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My guess is they won’t bother announcing it until after practice. I mean, do they ever?
Whoever they signed will be at practice today. Cork or someone will probably be at practice and see who it is before any official annoucement comes.
Just a guess, though.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:18 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Steve Sabol,..BFD that he died,..I do not care,..and he did what?…what, continued on what his dad started. Does that make him some friggin genius?…innovator?…baloney, that dude did nothing but inherit a film company and the SAME people doing all the work for his father just kept doing it, but OMG Steve Sabol was a pioneer,..my asss,…he did nothing and I wont mourn him at all…HOWEVER he did one thing right,…when his dad died he didnt do anything stupid like hire some Big Dummy to run it into the ground…I have spoken.
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Tell me how you really feel.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:19 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I’m concerned about Bo Schem.
Doesn’t seem likely that he’d completely disappear over the Condo thing.
Hope he’s OK.
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Probably too embarrassed to show up around these parts. Bet he reappears under new handle.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Slo-Mania had a few coals go out this weekend
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The first cracks in the dam appear.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:20 am
CALI★GROWN @408RAIDER
Can’t even troll the donkey blog cuz we haven’t won a game yet.. #NationProblems
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LOL
September 19th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Dakota Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
527.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 am
At least MLonetree died thinking the Raiders were on the upswing…..he didn’t have the 2012 Raiders slap him in the face with a dose of reality.
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What happened?
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MLonetree packed a bottle of water and a bag of trail mix, put on his hiking shoes, selected his favorite forest, found the spot with his favorite view and settled down to let Mother Nature take him home….at least that is how I picture it.
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I’ll take that as my farewell to mother earth.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Lonetree is a solid dude.
I sent him some somewhat ghetto-ish, Raider and A’s gear that didn’t quite jive with the non-22 year old JFB, so he can give it to his nephew.
His nephew’s mom, his sister I would guess, wrote me back a thank-you note.
Thank-you notes this day and age? Unheard of, unless you are stand up folks.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Code muthafukkin Black ..Let’s go Raiders
September 19th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Lonetree is a solid dude.
I sent him some somewhat ghetto-ish, Raider and A’s gear that didn’t quite jive with the non-22 year old JFB, so he can give it to his nephew.
His nephew’s mom, his sister I would guess, wrote me back a thank-you note.
Thank-you notes this day and age? Unheard of, unless you are stand up folks.
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I like people that are appreciative
September 19th, 2012 at 8:22 am
BSJ’s worst nightmare came true. An injury to Condo cost his Raiders a victory against a hated foe. Something he never believed was in the realm of possibility.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:24 am
After Michigan loses to Notre Dame this week, BSJ may have to be on suicide watch.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Pro Football Weekly @ProFootballWkly
RT @MiamiDolphins: Congrats to @reggie_bush, who has been named AFC Offensive Player of the Week!
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September 19th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Silverandblackpa,
Thanks. That sounds about right.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Lol, we’re back to making offensive players of the week out of B list players? Sad.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I saw that about Reggies award,..however look close, theres an asterik. (*Raiders)
September 19th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Reggie Bush > Darren McFadden
September 19th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Cedric Benson > Darren McFadden
September 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Did Reggie Bush ever stub his pinky toe and miss 9 games on a team contending?…no. You stand corrected.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I got dibs on the white double nick. Promise to send you a thank you letter.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Lonetree was here 2 days ago. He is fine.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Has anyone ever thought that MAYBE McFadden will never be the player he was in 2010, after this Lis Franc business?
The guy has had turf toe twice, Lis Franc, and a few other injuries, and took a helluva pounding in college.
He may be turning into Stephen Davis right before our eyes.
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I don’t think so. My eyes tell me he’s the same guy. Same burst, same speed, same power. I think he’s fully back. The o-line is just dreadful right now.
The one difference with DMac is I see that when he’s trapped on the sideline now with nowhere to go he’ll step out of bounds rather than try to lower his shoulder and tee off on a defender, which I think is smart. He’ll take — and deliver — enough hits over the course of the season. No need to take on extra contact for no reason. Having said that, he did almost break one against SD and picked up another 15 yards or so where he was at the sideline and the defender thought he was stepping out and he cut it back up field instead.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Having said that, he did almost break one against SD and picked up another 15 yards or so where he was at the sideline and the defender thought he was stepping out and he cut it back up field instead.
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That was a great move, hell probably a season highlight at this stage.
It worked well than, not sure why he didn’t try it in the 3rd quarter in Miami on the screen pass.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
You guys need to face facts about DMC,..he was nothing more then a fast guy in Arkansas that was hurt quite a bit,..hes now a semi fast guy that will not play in pain, wont play nicked,…hes a total wash out in the NFL and out of it in two years…he wont be a Raider next year and he knows it thats why he will barely play this year,..he has no heart whatsoever and is your typical gutless SEC running back. You can thank me now.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
So how long before a story breaks that these replacement refs are laying dough on the games?
There was that ref in New Orleans that got pulled off the field because his facebook page was littered with him in Saints gear.
Now there’s this:
Philadelphia Eagles RB LeSean McCoy said a replacement ref told him during Week 2 that he needed McCoy to produce for his fantasy team. ‘They’re like fans, kind of though,’ McCoy said. ‘I’ll be honest, they’re like fans. One of the refs was talking about his fantasy team, like, ‘McCoy, come on. I need you for my fantasy,’ ahhh, what?!’
September 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Now there’s this:
Philadelphia Eagles RB LeSean McCoy said a replacement ref told him during Week 2 that he needed McCoy to produce for his fantasy team. ‘They’re like fans, kind of though,’ McCoy said. ‘I’ll be honest, they’re like fans. One of the refs was talking about his fantasy team, like, ‘McCoy, come on. I need you for my fantasy,’ ahhh, what?!’
So is that what happened that got Ray Lewis heated?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Yo Hawaiin bro, big tailgate Sunday,..A lot,..be there dude,…if you have Briens number he will have location…I will be in Kaanapali entire month of January,.cave bar, Hyatt, join me,..we will get sh!t faced and let that canal take us out to the Pacific…Aloha!
September 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Just sign carter & plax
September 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
546.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Pro Football Weekly @ProFootballWkly
RT @MiamiDolphins: Congrats to @reggie_bush, who has been named AFC Offensive Player of the Week!
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Hope they hang that in the locker room!
September 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Yo Hawaiin bro, big tailgate Sunday,..A lot,..be there dude,…if you have Briens number he will have location…I will be in Kaanapali entire month of January,.cave bar, Hyatt, join me,..we will get sh!t faced and let that canal take us out to the Pacific…Aloha!
I’ll take a walk down with Brien when he gets to mine. Leaving for home next Friday! i’ll see if I can escape in January!
September 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Adam Caplan @caplannfl
CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah signed with the Raiders practice squad, according to his agent, @andysimms.
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September 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
The worst replacement official is still better than Walt Coleman.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah signing probably means Chekwa signed to regular roster.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:54 am
#556 Dont you owe me a fifty?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Now there’s this:
Philadelphia Eagles RB LeSean McCoy said a replacement ref told him during Week 2 that he needed McCoy to produce for his fantasy team. ‘They’re like fans, kind of though,’ McCoy said. ‘I’ll be honest, they’re like fans. One of the refs was talking about his fantasy team, like, ‘McCoy, come on. I need you for my fantasy,’ ahhh, what?!’
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Hilarious! And the other one that had to get replaced because he was going to ref the Saints game and he had that Saints T-shirt on FB.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Oakofshow, take yo ass back to ghetto town.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Owusu-Ansah was a guy I wanted in the draft that year..
CB/S.. Return man too.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Cedric Benson > Darren McFadden
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how many TDs did Benson score in a 59-14 blow out at Mile High?
Exactly.
DMC is a top 100 player. Benson is a scrub.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DMC is a top 100 player. Benson is a scrub.
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Not this year.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:59 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Did Reggie Bush ever stub his pinky toe and miss 9 games on a team contending?…no. You stand corrected.
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You know the fan base is gripping when they diss the obvious best player on the entire freaking team.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DMC is a top 100 player. Benson is a scrub.
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Not this year
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I agree. BENSON IS STILL A SCRUB.
jesus, its been TWO games.
LMAO!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The Lions should bench Matthew Stafford too, because he just isnt getting it done.
LOL
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Chris In NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Has anyone ever thought that MAYBE McFadden will never be the player he was in 2010, after this Lis Franc business?
The guy has had turf toe twice, Lis Franc, and a few other injuries, and took a helluva pounding in college.
He may be turning into Stephen Davis right before our eyes.
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I don’t think so. My eyes tell me he’s the same guy. Same burst, same speed, same power. I think he’s fully back. The o-line is just dreadful right now.
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EXACTLY.
put the guy in the same blocking scheme as last year. END OF STORY.
but if he didnt produce an entire season, I suppose the criticism will mount.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Free agent DB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah worked out for the Steelers.Owusu-Ansah was waived by the Cowboys at final cuts after attempting to make the transition from safety to corner during camp. The onetime receiver has made 14 career appearances since being drafted in the 2010 fourth round. Sep 5 – 7:43 PMSource: Adam Caplan on Twitter
So the steelers cut him and then opted for DVD over him and now we have him after cutting DVD.
I think Reg cut him prematurely due to the fact he was an AD “speed” pick. The same reason we haven’t seen Cris Carr brought in for a workout. Out with the old, in with the injured.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The Lions should bench Matthew Stafford too, because he just isnt getting it done.
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And the Saints should bench Drew Brees, too.
LMAO!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I agree that Palmer needs to hit those open receivers when they are open. Sure, there have been some drops but imagine what his stats would look like if he didn’t complete just 50 %.
Only stat that matters is “WINS” though.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Free agent DB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah worked out for the Steelers.Owusu-Ansah was waived by the Cowboys at final cuts after attempting to make the transition from safety to corner during camp. The onetime receiver has made 14 career appearances since being drafted in the 2010 fourth round. Sep 5 – 7:43 PMSource: Adam Caplan on Twitter
So the steelers cut him and then opted for DVD over him and now we have him after cutting DVD.
I think Reg cut him prematurely due to the fact he was an AD “speed” pick. The same reason we haven’t seen Cris Carr brought in for a workout. Out with the old, in with the injured.
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And with good reason. Do we really want to review the “misses” Al had
well, if we must
Sebastian Janikowski over Shaun Alexander
Robert Gallery over Ben Rothelisberger
Phillip Buchanon over Ed Reed. My God, they were on the same team – who cares if Woodson was the starter!?!
Rickey Dudley over Marvin Harrison and RAY FREAKING LEWIS
JaMarcus Russell over Megatron
Jake Grove over Nick Hardwick and Randy Starks
(holds back disgust) Fabian Washington over Aaron Rodgers .. oh yeah Roddy White AND Logan Mankins
shall I go on…
Michael Huff over Donte Whitner no, check that HALOTI NGATA! – and get this, we overpay for Kamerion Wimbley , who also could’ve been drafted…and Daniel Manning and Roman Harper were available later
Thomas Howard over Devin Hester and Maurice Jones-Drew…
it aint perfect, but I’M GIVING MR MUMBLES, Reggie McKenzie the benefit of the doubt for at least one more FULL draft.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Lack of Playmakers is whats killing the raiders ..on both sides of the ball..I also think many in this blog overglorify our players especially the WRs. When Palmer threw a lob to DHB in the end zone for a 50/50 DHB had no chance of making that play. I respect DHB improved last year but he is not what we need. We struggled in the red zone last year under Hue and we are struggling again.We need a WR who is physical, is quick to the ball, and catches TDs. I have been making the suggestion of bringing in Plax for at least a workout. The criticism I have received has been based on that no other GM has signed Plax so why should we and that Criner and Streater will give us what Plax can do.
I will accept ignoring Plax if you are in a rebuilding mode. Otherwise it makes no sense.There were 60-65 WRs who had more TDS than DHB who last yr in his breakout year..haha..was our #1 receiver. We didnt have a great TE and Dmac was out 9-10 games , yet DHB caught only 4. Dmoore is talented but until he does it he should not be given credit like he has. My biggest criticism of this blog is the overglorification of the players.
Many of you hammered me on that no other GM wanted Plax so why should we. Then its OK to believe in Streater? An UNDRAFTED(no other Gm wanted him) or Criner who has yet to catch a TD pass yet?
Plax is not out of the league bc of talent issues, many gms have been burned by TO, Chad and others and dont want to go down that road bc they already have capable red zone performers. Remember their were 60+ receivers that had more TDs than DHB last year and many of them had to share the spotlight.
If your rebuilding then no need for Plax, but if you want a red zone specialist who caught 8 Tds last yr with Sanchez as your QB than hes worth a workout? We need to stop overglorifying these players and btw Plax 8 tds last year is more than any Raider WR since 2005. Facts not fiction. I hope Criner catches 20td passes this year but until he does lets not go overboard
September 19th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Nyraider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
“If your rebuilding then no need for Plax, but if you want a red zone specialist who caught 8 Tds last yr with Sanchez as your QB than hes worth a workout? We need to stop overglorifying these players and btw Plax 8 tds last year is more than any Raider WR since 2005. Facts not fiction. I hope Criner catches 20td passes this year but until he does lets not go overboard”
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so they clear out the cap space completely , see what they can salvage, evaluate players moving forward and hit the draft. if they only have six picks, they should trade to acquire four more, even if it means moving down….that being said, could McKenzie find the Marques Colston’s and Courtland Finnegan’s later in rounds as good GMs do? That is the question..
September 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
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