McClain out with concussion; Raiders remain confident in run
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 19th, 2012 at 3:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
As it turns out, middle linebacker Rolando McClain had a good reason for missing practice today: He suffered a concussion against the Miami Dolphins.
McClain said the scariest part of his injury is, he doesn’t know when it happened Sunday.
“It was more in the game where I felt like, ‘Well, dang, I don’t feel like myself,’ ” McClain said. “But, I don’t know, it’s one of the more scary injuries. With an ankle, you know what’s wrong. But when it’s in your head, you don’t know.”
McClain played the bulk of the game. Raiders coach Dennis Allen said it became apparent after the game.
“It was something we thought might have been the case after the game,” Allen said. “But it didn’t seem like it was a major one. Seemed like a minor deal, and so, it’s kind of a precautionary deal that we’re going through the whole process to make sure he’s fine.”
McClain said this is the first time he has suffered a concussion that he is aware of, either in college of his three years in the NFL. Therefore, he is heeding the advice of team doctors.
He won’t be allowed to play this Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers unless he passes a series of league-mandated tests. McClain said he is hopeful of making a speedy recovery and playing Sunday.
“That’s the plan,” McClain said. “Obviously, you don’t want to rush anything with the head, but it is what it is. I’m just doing whatever it is I can do to get back. We’ll see.”
Long-snapper Jon Condo suffered a concussion in Oakland’s regular-season opener. He passed the tests four days later and returned in time to play against the Dolphins.
If McClain isn’t able to play, Travis Goethel is the likely candidate to start in the middle.
– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer’s right foot remains in a protective boot, and he still is in need of crutches to get around.
Allen said Spencer underwent an MRI to determine the extent of the damage from an injury Spencer suffered against the Dolphins.
“We still really don’t have an answer to that,” Allen said, when asked if he knew how long Spencer would be out. “He didn’t practice today, so we’re going to evaluate him as we go throughout the week and see where he’s at.”
Same goes for right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes, who suffered a groin injury against the Dolphins and missed most of the game.
Willie Smith is in line to start at right offensive tackle if Barnes can’t play.
– There’s a rule of thumb on punt returns that, a returner lines up at his own 10-yard line on punts with a chance of reaching the end zone and lets go anything that is going over his head.
Phillip Adams fielded one punt at his own 2-yard line and two at his own 7-yard line against the Dolphins. Where does Allen stand on the issue?
“That’s the general rule,” Allen said. “Line up on the 10 and if it goes over your head, you let it go. That’s one of the things we’ve talked about. We’ve got to make good decisions and smart decisions. That will help us as far as the field position game goes.”
– Stefen Wisniewski stayed after practice to work on his long-snapping. He now is listed as the backup to Condo on the Raiders depth chart.
For the record, Wisniewski looked much more capable snapping the ball than Goethel did in practice a week ago.
– The old regime informed free safety Michael Huff late last season that he was being converted to cornerback. That went out the window once coach Hue Jackson got fired shortly after the season ended.
Now, with both starting cornerbacks injured, Huff finds himself back in the mix at cornerback. He took some reps there in practice today.
Allen said Huff has what it takes to make the transition, whereas not all safeties do.
“Speed and athleticism; that’s the biggest thing,” Allen said of the key to making the switch. “You’ve got to be able to run and play out there on the edge, and he can certainly do that.”
Huff was unavailable for comment.
Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson are the projected starters for now, with Spencer and Ron Bartell sidelined with injuries. Lee said Huff has what it takes to succeed if called upon.
“Huff is an all-around guy,” Lee said. “He’s a good player. He can do whatever out there on the field. He’s going to do his job. That’s Huff.”
– The Raiders aren’t the only team struggling with their rushing attack the first two games. The Steelers averaged only 2.6 yards rushing in games against the Denver Broncos and New York Jets.
It doesn’t help that they are without lead back Rashard Mendenhall, of course. But, sometimes it just takes time to get things going, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said.
“I just think the early portions of the year, particularly when you’re working with new systems of offensive football, that it takes some time to get some cohesion,” Tomlin said. “But, again, I’m just speaking from my perspective and maybe our experiences.”
Tomlin said he isn’t in position to pass judgment on why the Raiders have struggled so much in the run game. The Raiders averaged 2.0 yards a carry their first two games.
– Through it all, the Raiders remain steadfast in their belief that it’s only a matter of time before things click in the run game.
“You don’t let it frustrate you,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “The saving grace is, you know McFadden is back there. He’s one arm tackle away from breaking off a 40-, 50-yarder. He’s got that potential, he’s got that ability, he’s done it before. We’re going to stick with it. We’re not frustrated.
“We’re disappointed in ourselves for not executing it better but we’re not going to let it frustrate us, we’re not going to let it deter it from our goal. Our goal is going to be to run the ball on people, and we’re going to do that. It hasn’t worked the first two games, but we’re not going to change anything we’re doing.”
McFadden said “it’s a shock to me” when he looks at the stat sheet and sees that he has gained only 54 yards on 26 carries through two games.
Yet, as Palmer said, McFadden isn’t frustrated by the lack of results so far. By comparison, McFadden had 222 yards rushing through two games last season.
“It’s a game, you can’t get frustrated,” McFadden said. “If you get frustrated, you only get down on yourself, so you have to just go out there and keep grinding, keep pushing forward.”
Allen isn’t about to abandon the run after only two games. He said sometimes the game dictates how often run plays are called.
“I’ve got all the confidence in the world in our running game,” Allen said. “I’ve seen it work. It’s been successful in this league and we’ve got the right personnel to get it done.”
– Palmer attempted 94 passes the first two games. Combine that with an entire offseason, training camp and four exhibition games, and it has to make for a tired arm, right?
Not so, Palmer said.
“Oh, yeah, my arm feels great,” Palmer said. “My arm feels great and, hopefully, I pray that I continue to stay healthy. But my arm feels great.”
Palmer estimated that he attempted 120 passes in practice today, so 47 or so in a game isn’t much of a workload, by comparison.
– Allen had this to say about new cornerback Brandian Ross, who was signed earlier today to the 53-man roster:
“He’s a big guy, a physical guy, has got some coverage skills. He’s a guy that Reggie knew about from being there with him, so he was a guy we thought could come in and compete.”
How soon remains in question. Ross has four days to learn enough of the coverage schemes to be of use to the Raiders on Sunday.
“That’s the plan,” Ross said, when asked if he intended to play Sunday. “Try to pick it up ASAP, so I can help get this first W here.”
Coincidentally, Ross was convinced by then-Packers personnel guy Reggie McKenzie to stay in Green Bay last season when another team wanted to sign him from the practice squad.
It was McKenzie who convinced Ross to bolt the Packers this time, with McKenzie running the show in Oakland as the general manager.
– Once again, the Raiders are urging fans to enter the stadium at home games to enter at least one hour before kick-off.
As an incentive, the Raiders have a program in place that rewards selected fans with prizes. For more information about Early In and You May Win, go to: http://www.raiders.com/gameday
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September 19th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
#1
September 19th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Dropping deuces
September 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Third times a charm
September 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Shut the door, Klas #4
September 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Johhny 5 is alive!
September 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
BrownStains, I doubt the Stock Market would have doubled in value under a Marxist govt.
But, use your google machine to look up Marxism, if your’e interested in informing yourself.
September 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Some teams are just bad matchups.
The fins have beat us years now, much worse than last week, with all kinds of hacks at QB.
We beat the Steelers in 06 and with the Bruce miracle in 09.
We stand a better chance of winning in Denver as opposed to Miami, no matter who the QB’s involved are.
This will be an exciting game on Sunday. Not guaranteeing victory, but it will be a heckuva lot closer than most are imagining.
September 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Point total after first 2 games under Cable playcalling: 33
Point total after first 2 games under Hue: 29
Point total after first 2 games under Knapp(2012): 27
Man, I wish I couldve been in here when knee jerk nation must have been saying Hue Jackson is ruining Tom Cable’s offense!
Haha
September 19th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
KK, I found the def of marxism right here. Thanks to your marxist hero!
““I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution,” he said, “because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level, to make sure everybody’s got a shot.”
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KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
But, use your google machine to look up Marxism, if your’e interested in informing yourself.
September 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Post #7, Klas is in Heaven
September 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
KK, I see your head is still planted firmly in your anus. If 0ba ma himself pissed on your shoes you would insist it’s just raindrops, right?
September 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Dennis Allen: “its hard to tell with McClain because his best play is about equal to how most NFL linebackers would play concussed.”
September 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I would have thought Slo would be exempt from a brain injury.
But have no fear.
Dr. Greg Knapp can alleviate any and all concussion symptoms in a matter of minutes.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
New cornerback Brandian Ross said the plan is for him to be available to play Sunday. He has four days to learn the coverage schemes.
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Yikes! Ben: 400 yards this Sunday
September 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
KK, pres derelect couldn’t recall what the debt is on Lettermen huh?
lmao
September 19th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
“he has gained only 54 yards on 26 carries through two games….by comparison, McFadden had 222 yards rushing through two games last season.” only in a krappy zbs can dmc be turned into felix jones…but hey all hail reggie the savior
September 19th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
This will be an exciting game on Sunday. Not guaranteeing victory, but it will be a heckuva lot closer than most are imagining.
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Not guaranteeing victory ? Pfffffft.
Raider ML baby !
September 19th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
on a related note….the players are already quitting on reggie and da…no worries we can field a team of waiver wire players…it saves money after all…,
September 19th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Hopefully the ‘Chemist’ Tarver can cook up some Walter White grade meth against Steelers.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Fire Greg Knapp
The Raiders deserve better. Greg Knapp has proven he cannot win against defensive coordinators in the NFL. His route concepts don’t work, he doesn’t put our players in the best position to win, & his playbook does not emphasize the run or the vertical game.”
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Sincerely,
[Your name]
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp
My name is the ArmChair GM…and I approve this message.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
McClain said the scariest part of his injury is, he doesn’t know when it happened Sunday.
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Maybe on the face plant whiff ?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Unless having a concussion prohibits you from jogging, Slo should be OK.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Monte Poole has been a roll!
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21584265/monte-poole-oakland-raiders-might-have-been-better
September 19th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Hopefully the ‘Chemist’ Tarver can cook up some Walter White grade meth against Steelers.
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Is Meth a big problem in Sweden? Lol.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Getting rid of DVD so quickly was a weird decision.
This season is done before it even started now!
McK should have kept Hue Jackson and him and Hue could have hired a better defensive coordinator and work on penalties.
Young Allen is in over his head and this Raiders team is not prepared and the hiring of Knapp to ruin the offense was just plan stupid! This reminds me of Kiffin/Knapp part one.
Disastrous!
September 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
As an incentive, the Raiders have a program in place that rewards selected fans with prizes. For more information about Early In and You May Win, go to: http://www.raiders.com/gameday
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I didn’t get jack for my efforts! Give me my prize!
September 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
“he has gained only 54 yards on 26 carries through two games….by comparison, McFadden had 222 yards rushing through two games last season.” only in a krappy zbs can dmc be turned into felix jones…but hey all hail reggie the savior
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Terrible….terrible….terrible.
DMC talents are being wasted with Knapp calling plays….AGAIN like he wasted him the first time he was here under Kiffin.
What the heck was McK and Allen thinking by changing the offense which wasn’t broken??
They weren’t thinking.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
KK Cchik Fil A,
Here is the result of 4 years of socialism/marxism.
16 tril > 10 tril
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“I don’t remember what the number was precisely,” Oba ma said, adding later, “We don’t have to worry about it short term. But it is a problem long-term and even medium-term.”
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According to the Treasury Department website, the national debt was $10.6 trillion on the day Ba rack Oba ma took office. Today, the national debt is $16 trillion.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Better start scouting prospects for next years draft…ALREADY!
Ugh
September 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Hopefully the ‘Chemist’ Tarver can cook up some Walter White grade meth against Steelers.
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Is Meth a big problem in Sweden? Lol.
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Meth is everyone’s problem, and it is not a joke.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
So we “basically” have the same players on offense from last year???
WTF does basically mean again?
New LG!!!!
New C!!!!
New RG!!!!
How many snaps did Hagan and Streater have for us last season?
Same QB that got us how many WINS last year????
Come the phugg on alredy!
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I didn’t get jack for my efforts! Give me my prize!
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Here’s a Greg Knapp bobblehead.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Post 29….. Started that in Early June
September 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Post 29….. Started that in Early June
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Yep. Who will McK pick with the top 4 pick?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I didn’t get jack for my efforts! Give me my prize!
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Here’s a Greg Knapp bobblehead.
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Now THAT would be hilarious!
September 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Maybe it’s time for every member of “THE RAIDER ORGANISATION” to wake up tomorrow morning, look in the mirror, and say to themselves from now on I’m going to do whatever it takes to “JUST WIN BABY”. No more carp about humidity(?), missing our long snapper or whatever. I’m going to go out and dominate my opponent, and do it for the long suffering, supportive, hard working (sorry Kell), RAIDER NATION, who through thick and thin have spent their hard earned money to come and watch me playing for their beloved RAIDERS! Very, very old fan, who only wants the younger RAIDER generation to enjoy the experiences I did, when the RAIDERS dominated the NFL.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
offense will come alive this game, albeit another tough time running v a tough d, CP DHB and Moore will come up huge. Dline will harass Lil Ben (that’s what the rape victims call him) and Huff/Branch/Mitchell/Gio will give us a glimpse of the what our safeties are capable of
Raiders 20
Steelers 17
September 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
35.The Big Banana Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I didn’t get jack for my efforts! Give me my prize!
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Here’s a Greg Knapp bobblehead.
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Now THAT would be hilarious!
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Could you imagine, it would be raining bobbleheads on the field Sunday…
September 19th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
why wait till the draft so he can pick another bergstrom? just go get the same guy from the waiver wire…
September 19th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Matt Leinart @MattLeinartQB
Had a great work day today! Focus is on getting better everyday as a team! #believe
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Alright! Matty Ice is ready to go!
September 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
35.The Big Banana Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I didn’t get jack for my efforts! Give me my prize!
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Here’s a Greg Knapp bobblehead.
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Now THAT would be hilarious!
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Could you imagine, it would be raining bobbleheads on the field Sunday…
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Lol. That or we’d have ourselves a post-game Greg Knapp BBQ in the parking lot.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Post34
All depends if Mckenzie stays with Palmer
#1 Geno Smith
#2 Star Lotulelei
#3 Tyler Wilson/Jarvis Jones
These could all be major possibilities.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Lol @ Leinart’s #believe! What are we the Mighty Ducks?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Point total after first 2 games under Cable playcalling: 33
Point total after first 2 games under Hue: 29
Point total after first 2 games under Knapp(2012): 27
Man, I wish I couldve been in here when knee jerk nation must have been saying Hue Jackson is ruining Tom Cable’s offense!
Haha
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Wrong!!!
2011 season under Hue the Raiders had 58 points the first two games. McFadden had 222 yards rushing. The Raiders beat Denver 23-20 and lost to Buffalo late in the game 38-35.
2010 under Cable the Raiders had 29 points the first two games. Lost to Tennesee 38-13 and beat the Rams 16-14.
Hue had the offense on fire and the defense was the weak link.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
40.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Matt Leinart @MattLeinartQB
Had a great work day today! Focus is on getting better everyday as a team! #believe
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Alright! Matty Ice is ready to go!
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Klas, I think “Matty Ice” is Matt Ryan’s nickname, but I hope Matty Ice is also ready to kick some @$$ this weekend…cause the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Go Atlanta this week…
September 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Lol @ Leinart’s #believe! What are we the Mighty Ducks?
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Give him some pom poms already.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Matt Leinart is a total fruit cake
I once partied with him at Trader Vic’s and he tried to beer bong a Mai Tai
Then he peed his pants and gave his phone # to a busboy
Uh, yeah, you guessed it – the busboy was an Asian dude
Yo, that’s exactly why the mighty Bruins will ROLL the Beavers this Sat. Right about the same time the Beeech Dawg is rolling some of his own beavers
As in, I’ll be making love to strippers
September 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Don’t give McCheese any lip about being handicapped, due to concussion, he might take a shot at you. Truthfully, the real question should be how do you get a concussion when you don’t hit anything? McWhiffer had a total of two tackles last week. What are the odds that this mystery whack was one of those two contacts? Time is running out for McCheese to show that he should be a starter in the NFL. He’s had 3 years to get his “stuff” together and his only fame has to d with hm body slammin’ RB Sproules when he was with San Diego. Since then, he hasn’t done a whole lot to shout about. I wonder how much longer Reggie, a NFL linebacker in his own right, will tolerate McCheese’s non-contact approach to linebacking?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
its matty lice…
September 19th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
forget the stats last year offensively we put up points on everyone except for the kc 6 pick game, and we got manhandled by Green Bay. Our D lost us the Buff game, Detroit game, and the season ending charger game
September 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Lol @ Leinart’s #believe! What are we the Mighty Ducks?
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Give him some pom poms already.
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Why bother ? He doesn’t have the arm strentgh to throw them over his shoulder.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
So the looney tune sitting behind me sold his ticket to a Charger fan last game. Hope he doesn’t sell this one to a Squeeler fan. Don’t know if I can take an obnoxious prick sitting behind me laughing through the whole game.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
fratty ice? praty (as in paternity test) ice? pedy (as in pedophile, the teens he was caught with) ice?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I didn’t get jack for my efforts! Give me my prize!
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Here’s a Greg Knapp bobblehead.
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woohahaha!!
September 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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Wrong!!!
2011 season under Hue the Raiders had 58 points the first two games. McFadden had 222 yards rushing. The Raiders beat Denver 23-20 and lost to Buffalo late in the game 38-35.
2010 under Cable the Raiders had 29 points the first two games. Lost to Tennesee 38-13 and beat the Rams 16-14.
Hue had the offense on fire and the defense was the weak link
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LOL. WRONG!
I’m talking about playcalling, not head coaching.
2010 was Hue’s first year as Offensive Coordinator.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Oh wiz at back up long snapper???? NO FÙCKING SHÌT A§SHOLES!!! OMG…
what took so long?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
2010 was Hue’s first year as Offensive Coordinator.
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Factually incorrect, he was OC in Atlanta in 2006.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RaiderReggie, you needn’t bother correcting an obvious troll( and/or yet another sock puppet ), they don’t care about facts.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
56…i think it just dawned on them…lol…but reggie loves him some waiver wire
September 19th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Been asking that same stupid question MH.
Makes ZERO sense to me that the C can’t snap the ball to the punter.
And why can’t Janokowski punt the damn ball???
September 19th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Armchair somehow loves 8-8. It has dummed down his brain.
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Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Are you tired of the whipping you are taking Armchair? Or do you want some more?
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Seymour Dummy you can’t even spell DUMBED down properly…
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No, I just dummed it down for you so you can sound it out. Or The neighbor kid can. I figured if I threw the b in Dumb it would throw you for a loop. Dummass.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
2010 was Hue’s first year as Offensive Coordinator.
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Factually incorrect, he was OC in Atlanta in 2006.
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I meant for The Raiders. But you’re right, as read, that was incorrect.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
JB Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Don’t give McCheese any lip about being handicapped, due to concussion, he might take a shot at you. Truthfully, the real question should be how do you get a concussion when you don’t hit anything? McWhiffer had a total of two tackles last week.
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That was what I was trying to figure out. What did he do concuss himself putting his helmet on?
September 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
57.KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
2010 was Hue’s first year as Offensive Coordinator.
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Factually incorrect, he was OC in Atlanta in 2006.
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Factually incorrect, he was the OC for the Skins in 2003, he was the OC for Atlanta in 2007…
September 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
DA has made enough rookie mistakes already… get it going
September 19th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
After that embarassing nigth Goethel had on MNF in front of millions, I’m sure he looks at this oppurtunity to save his name a bit. Would be great to see him make a bunch of plays that Rolando never makes, might just be the tell-tale sign of how bad Rolando is …. last year Blackstock came in for him, but Goethel I rate as a solid player thats been waiting, much like Brandon Myers.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Only a true dumb@ss would completely disagree with how an organization is ran but continue to feed them their money and tv ratings.
But if the ship turns around, guess who is back on board?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Factually incorrect, he was the OC for the Skins in 2003, he was the OC for Atlanta in 2007…
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Yes, thank-you my bad.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Sound and reasonable decision making has not been a benchmark of the new Mgmt team yet…so why not have a back up LB who hasn’t long snapped since high school take over during the opener…then lie about it to the fams to cover your azz, not an impressive start.
Mix in ‘Mumbles’ roster decisions and there is little reason for optimism…
What have these kooks done to my team?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
I’m all for sticking Huff at corner for the rest of the season to see if we can get the impact player a #7 draft choice is supposed to give us.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Goethel – 8 tackles, 2 for loss …. 1 INT for TD
and 0 punt snaps.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Im all for sticking huff in a raft….. waaaay out there
September 19th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
71.raiderinparadise Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Goethel – 8 tackles, 2 for loss …. 1 INT for TD
and 0 punt snaps.
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Nickname?
Goethel=Red Beard
September 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Im all for sticking huff in a raft….. waaaay out there
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truth Huff has been here for quite a while, 0 leadership … 0 seriousness …. 0 statement plays.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
71.raiderinparadise Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Goethel – 8 tackles, 2 for loss …. 1 INT for TD
and 0 punt snaps.
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Nickname?
Goethel=Red Beard
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Even better:
Red Snapper
September 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
After the Raiders get done watching “tape” and getting better….
Perhaps they should take some time and watch “A Football Life” on Ray Lewis.
16 years, loves the game and leads his team. Works hard. No excuses.
Carson, TK and Seymour might get learn what being a leader LATE IN ONES CAREER might mean.
Rolando could get a role model
Go and fight this weekend please!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
JB Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Don’t give McCheese any lip about being handicapped, due to concussion, he might take a shot at you. Truthfully, the real question should be how do you get a concussion when you don’t hit anything? McWhiffer had a total of two tackles last week.
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That was what I was trying to figure out. What did he do concuss himself putting his helmet on?
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Everything considered, that’s as good as an explanation as any other. Actually, quite creative. LOL
September 19th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
75.raiderinparadise Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
71.raiderinparadise Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Goethel – 8 tackles, 2 for loss …. 1 INT for TD
and 0 punt snaps.
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Nickname?
Goethel=Red Beard
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Even better:
Red Snapper
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Yes, way better!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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Wrong!!!
2011 season under Hue the Raiders had 58 points the first two games. McFadden had 222 yards rushing. The Raiders beat Denver 23-20 and lost to Buffalo late in the game 38-35.
2010 under Cable the Raiders had 29 points the first two games. Lost to Tennesee 38-13 and beat the Rams 16-14.
Hue had the offense on fire and the defense was the weak link
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LOL. WRONG!
I’m talking about playcalling, not head coaching.
2010 was Hue’s first year as Offensive Coordinator.
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OK. You are right. However, Tom Cable used the zone blocking scheme when Hue was the offensive coordinator and when Hue took over as head coach, he switched to the power blocking scheme which suit this bunch of Raider players.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
I understand the ZBS scheme is bad, but if our linemen executed it wouldnt mattter.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Lol @ Red Snapper. So if he makes a good play on Sunday, I can yell out ‘Red Snapper!’ and everyone will look at me like I am missing my helmet.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Lol @ Red Snapper. So if he makes a good play on Sunday, I can yell out ‘Red Snapper!’ and everyone will look at me like I am missing my helmet.
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The Red Snapper !!!!!!!!!
Someone will get it.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
This blog has really degraded, Does anyone really care when Hue Jackson’s first romp at OC was? I really think we’ve lowered our standards with regards to topics if this is what “SOME OF YOU PEOPLE” deem as important subject matter. What’s next, the size of McCheese’s cup?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Michael Huff aka Huff Daddy has now became: Bust Daddy
Tyvon Branch is now: Tyvon Leaf
Seymour is now: Seymourbench
RUN DMC is now: TWO YPC
September 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
Not 3 hrs. ago I was wondering how long #Packers could keep CB Brandian Ross on P-squad. They really liked him. So did Oak, which inked him.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
September 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
375.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
When Greg Knapp dies, the Raids will erect a monument in his honor.
His flame will burn right next to Al’s.
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The flame that burns brightest is Greg Knapps will to win.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
Not 3 hrs. ago I was wondering how long #Packers could keep CB Brandian Ross on P-squad. They really liked him. So did Oak, which inked him.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
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Like him so much we waited to get Francies, Hanson and some other scrubs first. Screw all and any form of hype!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
375.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
When Greg Knapp dies, the Raids will erect a monument in his honor.
His flame will burn right next to Al’s.
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The flame that burns brightest is Greg Knapps will to win.
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At the end of every 3rd quarter the fans will stand and stretch in honor of his favorite play .. zone stretch right.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
TheBay2LA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
Not 3 hrs. ago I was wondering how long #Packers could keep CB Brandian Ross on P-squad. They really liked him. So did Oak, which inked him.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
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Like him so much we waited to get Francies, Hanson and some other scrubs first. Screw all and any form of hype!
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Lol! I’m with you. Done with hype.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Its not hype, its hope.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
375.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
When Greg Knapp dies, the Raids will erect a monument in his honor.
His flame will burn right next to Al’s.
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The flame that burns brightest is Greg Knapps will to win.
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At the end of every 3rd quarter the fans will stand and stretch in honor of his favorite play .. zone stretch right.
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And at the beginning of the 1st? To resemeble the opening play action boot?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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Wrong!!!
2011 season under Hue the Raiders had 58 points the first two games. McFadden had 222 yards rushing. The Raiders beat Denver 23-20 and lost to Buffalo late in the game 38-35.
2010 under Cable the Raiders had 29 points the first two games. Lost to Tennesee 38-13 and beat the Rams 16-14.
Hue had the offense on fire and the defense was the weak link
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LOL. WRONG!
I’m talking about playcalling, not head coaching.
2010 was Hue’s first year as Offensive Coordinator.
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OK. You are right. However, Tom Cable used the zone blocking scheme when Hue was the offensive coordinator and when Hue took over as head coach, he switched to the power blocking scheme which suit this bunch of Raider players.
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Wrong. Hue implemented the power traps, counters and pulling blocking system and worked to the strengths of DMC.
Cable and Hue ran some zone blocking, but it was not ran exclusively and was not the primary blocking system like how it was ran when Kiffin/Knapp and Cable were head coaches and OC’s.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Its not hype, its hope.
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Yeah man I hope he shines as I do with all players on the squad with exception to those who’s windows have shut, we all recognize them. But c’mon wishes don’t do dishes!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
The Raiders put Big Dummy Reggie in charge,..and Big Dummy Reggie isnt qualified to drive the Niners team bus.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
Not 3 hrs. ago I was wondering how long #Packers could keep CB Brandian Ross on P-squad. They really liked him. So did Oak, which inked him.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
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Looks like good pick up. Way to go Reggie!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
On a different but similar subject, I was saying the preseason that Manning did not look like Manning to me. The accuracy is there, but the arm strength isn’t. After the Monday night game it is painfully apparent.
“I am what I am. It is what is. Whatever expression you want to use,” Manning said.
Not giving himself a ringing endorsement if you ask me.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Matt Leinart is a total fruit cake
I once partied with him at Trader Vic’s and he tried to beer bong a Mai Tai
Then he peed his pants and gave his phone # to a busboy
Uh, yeah, you guessed it – the busboy was an Asian dude
Yo, that’s exactly why the mighty Bruins will ROLL the Beavers this Sat. Right about the same time the Beeech Dawg is rolling some of his own beavers
As in, I’ll be making love to strippers
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there is so much comedy in beech’s posts, but the kind he intends. as a doctor, i’m going to point out a few things.
being at a restaurant that someone else is also at doesn’t mean ur partying together, although i’m sure u tried to sidle up to his party so u could feel like u part of his entourage. lonely and jealous.
i love how u assume we all immediately thought the busboy was an asian male. pretty sure ur the only one with asian busboys on ur brain. most of us wouldn’t even have these thoughts in our heads. homoerotic.
matt leinart being at trader vic’s and giving his phone to the busboy is EXACTLY why ucla will win? say what? deranged non-sequitur.
it kills me that u think always talking about strippers makes everyone think u get major puzzy. newsflash. most people think strippers are gross and/or sad. on the other hand, that’s all u can come up with as ur great example of hotness. and ur obviously trying WAY TOO HARD to convince everyone. closet case.
it’s probably not cool to take so much joy in making fun of a retard, but i can’t help it. ur hilarious (and u have no idea why).
hahahahahaha!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Actually, Mr.Goethel kinda’ looks like that guy in the blue suit that does the NFL Network promos.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
The first two games looked bad but the team can still turn this around. Our division is weak and its still too close to call ourselves out. Some of you are some weak minded cry babies whose expectations are way too high to begin with.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
#98 …. true dat
September 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Goethal is much better then McLain. McLain is off the team soon anyway,..soon as that illiterate loser gets suspended Big Dummy will release him.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
there you go again fake klas believing before seeing….
September 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
LA Raider loser,..divisions weak?…SD and Denver will both with at least 11 games,..KC goes 8-8,…Oakland will win one game,…theres your weak link to a good division. Youre quite welcome.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Actually, Mr.Goethel kinda’ looks like that guy in the blue suit that does the NFL Network promos.
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It’s true, he does. Klas has noticed that before. It’ SERIOUS FUN!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
i was on here last night going off on mcclain and how he looked like he was on drugs during the game. i guess a concussion would explain some of it. but not all. worst mlb in football.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
was beeechy dawg here? I want him to give me the royal treatment
September 19th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Amysatroll….You’ll see b-otch!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I just got primo tix to Niners-Bills,…paid alot but I got alot for my Raiders-Steelers tix,..all good.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
amy wears dresses. out to the bars.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
truth Huff has been here for quite a while, 0 leadership … 0 seriousness …. 0 statement plays.
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huff is mostly invisible but he did make the int on v houston to win the game and he did cause the game winning turnover amongst other big plays when we beat sd for the first time in i don’t remember how many tries
September 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
goethel looks like a game of thrones reject
September 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
LA,..I will see?…yes Iv already seen,..havent you been paying attention?…by the way I hope the Raiders do go back to LA,…then the bay area has no more NFL,…people in the San Jose-Santa Clara area never consider themselves part of the bay area.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Huff hasnt made a play since he was at Texas,..never made many there either.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
We nearly beat SD with no special teams.
Manning is throwing picks and his arm looks weaker then Carson’s.
KC’s defense cant tackle and their run game is worse than ours.
They don’t really put the fear in me.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
LA,..I will see?…yes Iv already seen,..havent you been paying attention?…by the way I hope the Raiders do go back to LA,…then the bay area has no more NFL,…people in the San Jose-Santa Clara area never consider themselves part of the bay area.
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The second part of this post sucks. Sorry! The Raiders belong in the Bay area regardless of what region San Jose-Santa Clara people claim. It’s not about them/you it’s about history.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Raiders and Niners both leaving bay area,..like everyone else who has their sh!t together does.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Matt Leinart is a total fruit cake
I once partied with him at Trader Vic’s and he tried to beer bong a Mai Tai
Then he peed his pants and gave his phone # to a busboy
Uh, yeah, you guessed it – the busboy was an Asian dude
Yo, that’s exactly why the mighty Bruins will ROLL the Beavers this Sat. Right about the same time the Beeech Dawg is rolling some of his own beavers
As in, I’ll be making love to strippers
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there is so much comedy in beech’s posts, but the kind he intends. as a doctor, i’m going to point out a few things.
being at a restaurant that someone else is also at doesn’t mean ur partying together, although i’m sure u tried to sidle up to his party so u could feel like u part of his entourage. lonely and jealous.
i love how u assume we all immediately thought the busboy was an asian male. pretty sure ur the only one with asian busboys on ur brain. most of us wouldn’t even have these thoughts in our heads. homoerotic.
matt leinart being at trader vic’s and giving his phone to the busboy is EXACTLY why ucla will win? say what? deranged non-sequitur.
it kills me that u think always talking about strippers makes everyone think u get major puzzy. newsflash. most people think strippers are gross and/or sad. on the other hand, that’s all u can come up with as ur great example of hotness. and ur obviously trying WAY TOO HARD to convince everyone. closet case.
it’s probably not cool to take so much joy in making fun of a retard, but i can’t help it. ur hilarious (and u have no idea why).
hahahahahaha!!!!!!
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I never read Beech’s comments.
Kind of redundant.
But what is rather entertaining, to a point, is how you jump through hoops, trying to rationalize or equate each of Beech’s comments.
Everyone, including him, knows he’s just bumping people’s heads.
Yet you reply to each comment and try and break it down proving it can’t be correct.
In other words, yes, he pretty much owns your hoopjumpin azz.
You do know he’s laughing at you, right?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
truth Huff has been here for quite a while, 0 leadership … 0 seriousness …. 0 statement plays.
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huff is mostly invisible but he did make the int on v houston to win the game and he did cause the game winning turnover amongst other big plays when we beat sd for the first time in i don’t remember how many tries
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The production certainly does not match his draft status or salary. I feel the same way about McFadden. He will have games of 32 yards, 37 yards, then get 166 yards. Then back to 28 yards, 32 yards….
September 19th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
where is my beeechy? He needs to lick it like a pop
September 19th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Matt Leinart is a total fruit cake
As in, I’ll be making love to strippers
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aww. this is really sweet. he makes love to them. LOL! do u give them wots of wittle kisses beeech? do u tell them how much they mean to u?
all this while he’s paying for a lapdance and he thinks they really like him. he doesn’t realize that strippers are pros at making tiny-weinered lonely guys think they like them.
poor beeech. he wuvs the stwipper.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Raiders and Niners both leaving bay area,..like everyone else who has their sh!t together does.
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Not important. But I think for myself, and rarely do what everybody else does.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Raiders and Niners both leaving bay area,..like everyone else who has their sh!t together does.
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Guess your MapQuest isn’t responding.
Santa Clara is part of the Bay Area.
Now you know
September 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Pinocchio Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Matt Leinart is a total fruit cake
I once partied with him at Trader Vic’s and he tried to beer bong a Mai Tai
Then he peed his pants and gave his phone # to a busboy
Uh, yeah, you guessed it – the busboy was an Asian dude
Yo, that’s exactly why the mighty Bruins will ROLL the Beavers this Sat. Right about the same time the Beeech Dawg is rolling some of his own beavers
As in, I’ll be making love to strippers
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there is so much comedy in beech’s posts, but the kind he intends. as a doctor, i’m going to point out a few things.
being at a restaurant that someone else is also at doesn’t mean ur partying together, although i’m sure u tried to sidle up to his party so u could feel like u part of his entourage. lonely and jealous.
i love how u assume we all immediately thought the busboy was an asian male. pretty sure ur the only one with asian busboys on ur brain. most of us wouldn’t even have these thoughts in our heads. homoerotic.
matt leinart being at trader vic’s and giving his phone to the busboy is EXACTLY why ucla will win? say what? deranged non-sequitur.
it kills me that u think always talking about strippers makes everyone think u get major puzzy. newsflash. most people think strippers are gross and/or sad. on the other hand, that’s all u can come up with as ur great example of hotness. and ur obviously trying WAY TOO HARD to convince everyone. closet case.
it’s probably not cool to take so much joy in making fun of a retard, but i can’t help it. ur hilarious (and u have no idea why).
hahahahahaha!!!!!!
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I never read Beech’s comments.
Kind of redundant.
But what is rather entertaining, to a point, is how you jump through hoops, trying to rationalize or equate each of Beech’s comments.
Everyone, including him, knows he’s just bumping people’s heads.
Yet you reply to each comment and try and break it down proving it can’t be correct.
In other words, yes, he pretty much owns your hoopjumpin azz.
You do know he’s laughing at you, right?
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hahahahahahaha!!!!!!! i’m thrwoing him around, pretending he’s real. making the point he’s a closet homo. duh. it’s beyond u.
and i’m laughing at ur pinnochio azz with ur wooden nose up a homo’s azz.
LOL!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I grew up in santa clara,…they never consider themselves part of that sewer known as the bay area.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I don’t know, Knapp’s play calling so far has seemed pretty decent to me. The part that is failing is execution from the players.
Now don’t get me wrong, Knapp and Allen’s stubborn approach to ONLY using the ZBS has been a head scratcher so far. Will it work eventually?
One problem is that I don’t think Knapp knows how to do anything different, which lead to Wiz 1.0’s departure?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Santa Clara is beautiful,..has the beautiful Mission there,..Santa Clara U,…its awesome,..no, not part of that sh!t hole bay area.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
The Raiders filled the void on their 53-man roster by signing cornerback Brandian Ross from the Green Bay Packers practice squad
The Raiders had an opening as a result of waiving long-snapper Nick Guess on Tuesday.
The Raiders signed Akwasi Owusu-Ansah to their practice squad
The Raiders also re-signed defensive tackle Vaughn Meatoga to their practice squad.
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woohoo!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
free safety Michael Huff is taking reps at cornerback in practice today
For now, the projected starters at cornerback are Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson
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Big Ben just threw for 400 yards & 5 TD’s!!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
amy moved to SF where he is a bottom.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
The Niners all year will talk superbowls, home field throughout,..pro bowlers,…while the raiders only talk about practice squad players and the 2013 draft. Im real and youre not.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Wassup RRS!
Part of the PM crowd nowadays, eh?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–nfl-power-rankings–life-without-hue-jackson-not-working-so-well-for-raider-nation.html
This is exactly the kind of crap I’m tired of!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21584265/monte-poole-oakland-raiders-might-have-been-better
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Great article!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Talk, talk, talk…
I don’t give a crap what Palmer and McFadden say.
I want to see them play real, winning football.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Nurse robby?
Read your reply to me a few posts above.
Obviously you’re embarrassed that I hit it on the head.
Your even weaker reply shows frustration on top of embarrassment.
The sting will go away in a day or so.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
The Niners all year will talk superbowls, home field throughout,..pro bowlers,…while the raiders only talk about practice squad players and the 2013 draft. Im real and youre not.
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Im new here, so not sure what your deal is, but already don’t like you. Not that it’s important or anything. But you say some pretty lame things. I’m guessing your a 9ers fan? Don’t you have a forum over there that you can guys can verbally tickle each others chodes or something and leave us Real Raider fans to our own misery?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
No, Im here to agrivate you LA, and clearly its working.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Otherwise, later Nation. Despite my gut feelings for this weekends contest. I hope something finally comes to fruition and the light becomes visable from this deep dark hole we’re in. One Nation, go Raiders!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
TheBay2LA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
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Im new here, so not sure what your deal is, but already don’t like you. Not that it’s important or anything. But you say some pretty lame things. I’m guessing your a 9ers fan? Don’t you have a forum over there that you can guys can verbally tickle each others chodes or something and leave us Real Raider fans to our own misery?
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You’re probably not new.
You’re probably MR.
Which means you’re posting to yourself.
Carry on.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
No, Im here to agrivate you LA, and clearly its working.
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Oh nice, sadly I’m hardly so simple to get aggravated over such unintelligible dribble as yours. Don’t flatter yourself.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
MR,..or is it DUCK,..,..Sullivan,..lol, that loser has multiple personas in here, just as he does in his real life,..he cant be honest with himself so how can he be with internet strangers?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Just try to ignore me baby,..we both know you cannot.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Pinocchio Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
TheBay2LA Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
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Im new here, so not sure what your deal is, but already don’t like you. Not that it’s important or anything. But you say some pretty lame things. I’m guessing your a 9ers fan? Don’t you have a forum over there that you can guys can verbally tickle each others chodes or something and leave us Real Raider fans to our own misery?
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You’re probably not new.
You’re probably MR.
Which means you’re posting to yourself.
Carry on.
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I made my first post just a few days ago, so for my own defence I’m not an imposter, or a fake handle or any other thing. I’m here for conversation relating to the Raiders. And the idea of conversing with myself, would seriously have me questioning my lifes priorities. Anyways, gotta go.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
I have watched Goethel play some in preseason and the regular season, and we have no chance to win with him.
His ballz to the wall sprint is about as quick as Slo’s 3rd quarter jog. Offensive players run past him like he is in quick sand.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Was funny watching MR get so confused one night, he couldn’t remember who he was posting as.
After getting busted his retort was ‘oh, I was just playing around, posting to myself. haha.”
Guys a real ma=ma’s boy goober.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Just saw on the news the progress on the new stadium in Santa Clara,…wow its really coming along,…some teams do everything right, and some have nothing but practice squad talk and a blog.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
For those who hoped we would’ve retained Hue Jackson; Raiders did bring back Knapp in less than three years; AP there’s always hope.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
JFB,…please dont let it out that you tape and save preseason games,..then go watch them later to study tape,..wow,..sad.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
On a different but similar subject, I was saying the preseason that Manning did not look like Manning to me. The accuracy is there, but the arm strength isn’t. After the Monday night game it is painfully apparent.
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LIAR.
You never said that.
Don’t force me to thrash you.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Hue has zero chance of ever getting a HC gig in the NFL.
None.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
No taping them, my blog GM skills are so awesome all I need to do is watch it once in normal time and it is permantately etched into the system.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
At least well know whether Goethel is a keeper.
I’m sure hell play hard at mlb, one to prove he can be the starter, two to amend his long …err short snaps.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Pinocchio Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Nurse robby?
Read your reply to me a few posts above.
Obviously you’re embarrassed that I hit it on the head.
Your even weaker reply shows frustration on top of embarrassment.
The sting will go away in a day or so.
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yep, ur a beech boy alright. just coming in here and saying something not based in reality at all doesn’t mean “u win”.
u hit nothing on the head. i’m not embarrassed.
my reply wasn’t weak. no frustration at all.
no sting.
just keep ur wooden nose up beech’s azz and make sure u lick his balls too.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
I hope Cal fires Tedford and hires Hue, he would be perfect for the college game and low-rent recruiting techniques.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
On a different but similar subject, I was saying the preseason that Manning did not look like Manning to me. The accuracy is there, but the arm strength isn’t. After the Monday night game it is painfully apparent.
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I won’t doubt Manning until I see a whole season of poor play from him. With that said, I hope you’re right, because I have tickets to that game in two weeks and the last thing I want is another Miami dibacle
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
We could lose by 50 this weekend, and I still think we go in there and beat the Donkeys.
What have we won, like 5 years in a row there? With Charlie Frye and Jamarcus hucking passes?
Easiest win on the schedule.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Nothing but a bunch of fukn juveniles in here!! Grow the hell up!! Go Raiders
September 19th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Denver 54-3. Grow up loser.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Looks like a touch a nerve ….good!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
What have we won, like 5 years in a row there?
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All good things come to an end. I’m hoping, but I’m not counting on it..
September 19th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
i’m not sure i feel sorrier for. the deranged s&m obsessed beeech or the kind of “man” who would want to be his toadie.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Gordon
Cruz
Kemp
Gonzales
Ramirez
Eithier
Crawford
Ellis
Kershaw
Beckett
Billingsley
Capuano
See you next year, JFB!
September 19th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
We could lose by 50 this weekend, and I still think we go in there and beat the Donkeys.
What have we won, like 5 years in a row there? With Charlie Frye and Jamarcus hucking passes?
Easiest win on the schedule.
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There’s a guy by the name of Payton Manning playing there now. Maybe you’ve heard of him? If Ryan Tannehill was able to shred our secondary in his second pro game, what do you think Manning might do?
September 19th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Season opener of Boardwalk Empire was a snoozefest
September 19th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Manning does not look like Manning. At least not to me he doesn’t.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Wow, Beckett …
Bomb, single, bomb????
September 19th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
The Autumn wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
Swaggering boisterously.
His face is weatherbeaten
He wears a hooded sash
With a silver hat about his head
And a bristling black mustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold.
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
EYE!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Our defense wil be fine.
Good move moving Huff to corner.
MM34 and Gio will get more snaps at S.
Front 7 is playing well.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
By Monte Poole
Bay Area News Group
Posted: 09/19/2012 02:34:02 PM PDT
Updated: 09/19/2012 03:30:44 PM PDT
Maybe it would not have worked. Maybe the chemistry between the temperate boss and the ebullient subordinate would have been all wrong.
But Hue Jackson did enough in 2011 to warrant another year as head coach of the Raiders, a chance to work with new general manager Reggie McKenzie.
I don’t necessarily believe McKenzie and Jackson would have clashed and brought down the franchise — especially when Hue realized he essentially was an interim coach, on a one-year trial.
McKenzie, however, wanted his “own guy.” That’s a common approach for a new executive, whether in sports or politics or the restaurant business. Sometimes the cure and sometimes the disease, “ownguyism” can be found in most any office or factory.
Dennis Allen is McKenzie’s own guy and, thus, Reggie’s great experiment. Allen is a good coach, with the potential to become an excellent head coach. He may find the solutions to overcome Oakland’s atrocious start.
It’s also reasonable to believe this start might have been avoided if Jackson were engineering the offense.
Hindsight? Not really. I thought in January that McKenzie moved too quickly to replace the head coach, and nothing that has happened in September has changed my opinion.
The strength of the 2011 Raiders was an offense that was productive despite being improvisational at quarterback and the loss of star running back Darren McFadden. It was the offense that allowed the Raiders to
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come within a win of the making the postseason.
Defense was this team’s weakness, and it’s an issue Jackson and McKenzie could have addressed and likely solved by making comprehensive changes within the coaching staff assembled by former owner/GM Al Davis.
To be clear, Jackson was not a great head coach. He was by turns superb and mystifying. His bravado was on his sleeve and his ego sometimes lifted him above the clouds. He was a former college quarterback who took risks, tempted fate and embraced the spotlight.
Hue and his abundance of effervescence would have required considerable maintenance.
Yet Reggie could have managed. Trial basis gives an executive tremendous leverage.
But McKenzie wanted a clean slate and his own guy. So he replaced Jackson with Allen, who had done a nice job in his one year as defensive coordinator in Denver.
This was a drastic change. No doubt the Raiders were in need of dramatic change. Al Davis was the boss for nearly 50 years, and his death required several positions to be filled. Anyone who filled them would have brought radical change.
Given authority by Mark Davis, McKenzie practically blew up the place, starting over, almost from the bottom up. Nearly everything he is doing needed to be done for the outdated Raiders to join the updated NFL.
But it’s quite possible such sweeping change — Allen came aboard 20 days after McKenzie took over as GM and three months after Mark Davis assumed ownership — is a case of too much, too fast.
Allen, despite positive reviews during training camp, is under fire for Oakland’s regression during its 0-2 start; the Raiders suddenly are regarded as one of the NFL’s five worst teams. Moreover, Allen is taking extreme criticism for his choice of Greg Knapp as offensive coordinator.
That’s what happens when a talent like McFadden disappears in plain sight, when an offense with the tools to improve opens the season with 12 punts and one meaningful touchdown.
It’s what happens when an offensive scheme that was working is scrapped for one that is struggling.
It’s not that an entirely new football structure can’t work. After installing two first-timers — GM Thomas Dimitroff and head coach Mike Smith — in 2008, Atlanta has had four successive winning seasons.
The Falcons, however, were 4-12 the previous season and entered 2008 holding six of the first 98 picks in the draft, including two in the first round.
The Raiders had posted consecutive 8-8 seasons, entered the last two Decembers in the playoff race and came into 2012 with conceivably the worst draft positioning in franchise history.
The 2011 team in many ways outperformed its talent, its circumstances (on and off the field) and its front-office operation.
The ‘12 Raiders are not among the deepest or most talented teams in the league. The roster is a tangle of the good, the average and the imminently replaceable.
To get the Raiders where they want to be, DA needs Reggie’s help. That will take time. Given the scope of the makeover, any progress that comes likely will be incremental. This could take years.
Meanwhile, the Raiders have taken several steps backward. It’s particularly hard to watch, after they found a way last season to take a few steps forward.
READ IT AND WEEP HUE HATERS. Been saying this since Hue was fired now local media finally catches on.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
I can feel the Autumn Wind, can you?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
We have won 4 in a row, I was there for all 4.
Got my tix for this year, we will make it 5 in a row after we beat on the Donkeys.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
All we need is our OGs to step the phugg up, and our offense will take off.
D Moore was open all over the place. Pitt will see that and that should open up so space for the run game.
Not sure what else Ausberry has to do to be a main target i the passing game PLAN.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
When Mark Davis made his first major move as the Raiders’ owner last January, hiring Reggie McKenzie as the team’s general manager and firing coach Hue Jackson after a solitary, 8-8 season, some of us blasted the decision like Jack Tatum lighting up a defenseless receiver back in the day.
It’s been a rotten start to Dennis Allen’s tenure with the Raiders. (AP)
In my column likening the late Al Davis’ son to “Tommy Boy”, I called Jackson’s firing an astonishingly dumb move. Then-Raiders wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh was among those who shared that opinion, telling me, “I’ll bet you San Diego, Kansas City and Denver like this move, because we would have been good next year with Hue.”
Well, next year is here, and it’s indeed a horror show: Two weeks into the 2012 season, the Raiders are the worst team in football – and the obvious occupant of the lowest rung on our 32 Questions status-interpretation ladder. They have taken the term ugly early to a new level, having been blown out last Sunday by the Dolphins, for whom the ignominious 32nd question was saved a week ago.
Or, to put it another way: The Romney campaign has had a better September than the Raiders.
I take no joy in the misery of Raider Nation. Oakland hasn’t had a winning season since 2002, and an extensive rebuilding process is a lot to ask of this particular fan base, especially when its rival across the Bay – to whom our first question is dedicated for the second consecutive week – looks like the class of football a year after a rookie coach provoked a dramatic turnaround.
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So far, Allen is the anti-Jim Harbaugh. On a positive note, the Raiders’ new coach is quite docile in news conferences (”We’ve got to coach better, we’ve got to play better”) and keeps his grooming habits to himself.
If his unmanicured hand can guide the Raiders out of this Black Hole anytime soon, there’s no question I’ll be forced to reassess my view of the situation. Until then, I miss Hue – and whether they admit it, I suspect a lot of Raiders fans do, too.
ANYTHING TO SAY DUMBASS HUE HATERS?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I gotta bad feeling that Ben rothlessburger is going to walk by Seymour and punch him in the mouth.
Hope the Raiders just put in Bryant.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
All we need is our OGs to step the phugg up, and our offense will take off.
D Moore was open all over the place. Pitt will see that and that should open up so space for the run game.
Not sure what else Ausberry has to do to be a main target i the passing game PLAN.
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Agree on Dmoore and Aus but how can the OG’s step up when all they do is get pushed back?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
What? Ben hit seymour? That will never happen.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
303Raider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
We have won 4 in a row, I was there for all 4.
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Me too! Good times. Actually started to feel bad for the little kids sitting behind me in the glorious 59-14 game haha
September 19th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
DA says we signed Ross because of his speed and athleticism…
Isn’t that what DVD was known for?
What in the heck is ‘Mumbles’ doing?
I don’t think he knows..
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Posts 156 – 178:
Sheer nonsense.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Hi Everyone
I’m a big Raider fan as you know. Go Raiders!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
The best Donkey game was when JaWalrus came in the 4th Qtr and Lead us to victory!
September 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
I hope Goethel starts in place of McClain on Sunday. Not because I don’t want to see McClain succeed, or fail for that matter. I want to see a player given a chance to redeem himself from an absolutely embarassing showing in primetime.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
But Hue Jackson did enough in 2011 to warrant another year as head coach of the Raiders,
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Wrong. Playing .200 ball to end the season with the playoffs on the line is not “doing enough to warrant another year”. In fact, it is one of many reasons he got jacked.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
eastoaklandraider Says: ANYTHING TO SAY DUMBASS HUE HATERS?///////////////Yes I do, eastoak. Whatever you think of Hue, citing Monte Poole on any thing Raider related is akin to listening to Rush talk about the liberals or KoolKell talk about conservatives. In other words, what he says is meaningless.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
purvisman Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
eastoaklandraider Says: ANYTHING TO SAY DUMBASS HUE HATERS?///////////////Yes I do, eastoak. Whatever you think of Hue, citing Monte Poole on any thing Raider related is akin to listening to Rush talk about the liberals or KoolKell talk about conservatives. In other words, what he says is meaningless.
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The column he was referring to was by Mike Silver.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
But Hue Jackson did enough in 2011 to warrant another year as head coach of the Raiders,
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Wrong. Playing .200 ball to end the season with the playoffs on the line is not “doing enough to warrant another year”. In fact, it is one of many reasons he got jacked.
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guess alot of people disagree with you bush. I hope your happy with the cuurent state of the team you shouldnt have any complaints with Hue not running the show your getting exactly what you asked for hope you enjoy the game sunday.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
303Raider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
The best Donkey game was when JaWalrus came in the 4th Qtr and Lead us to victory!
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Serious? Out of all the great Raider/Bronco games, you pick the Jamarcus game? Whatevs
September 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Eastoakland, I didn’t notice you quoting the yahoo Michael Silver. Post 185 applies equally to him, PLUS he is an admitted Hue apologist. And, yes, I had already read both posts.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
How many games did we win after Jason Campbell went down?
The HC wasn’t responsible for the losing?
September 19th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Chris in NY Says: post 170 and 174, Poole and Silver. Yes I pasted his all caps rant from 174 to get his attention. It all still applies.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I think Hue was ok, but he effed himself at the end. And that was the end of that story.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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Aaaaand they’re doing a bang-up job.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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so let me get this straight when the so called experts agree with you you use them as a reference but when they disagree with you their idots I got ya Bush.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Pajamas
September 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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Aaaaand they’re doing a bang-up job.
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I’m not just talking about the Raiders. I am talking about 30 other franchises. But one did pick up Hue: To be an assistant to the DB’s. And After getting completely torched 2 weeks in a row, he just got bucked down to assistant to the special team coaches. Seriously.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
purvisman Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I think Hue was ok, but he effed himself at the end. And that was the end of that story.
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That was the line the media pushed to justify it, but Hue didn’t do anything that necessitated a firing. That’s a myth. Still have yet to hear one negative comment about Hue from the players.
I mean, Cable broke an employee’s jaw and was kept around. But Hue saying he wanted to have input on the next GM is an inexcusable offense?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
How many games did we win after Jason Campbell went down?
The HC wasn’t responsible for the losing?
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dont really understand your point there. but on another note worry about your sorry ass dodgers bums cant even overtake the giants and give me a lil satisfaction. Fakers going down too Dwights Back problems will hinder the rest of his career they will be just good enough to lose to OKC again lol.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Firing Hue wasn’t the dumbest move, neither was hiring Allen.
Allowing Knapp to return was monumentally stupid.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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so let me get this straight when the so called experts agree with you you use them as a reference but when they disagree with you their idots I got ya Bush.
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I don’t consider the press to be experts. They are either critics or journalists. I consider the guys in the league to be experts. And not very often will one come out and completely contradict what I have said. You guys on the other hand….
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I think Hue was ok, but he effed himself at the end. And that was the end of that story.
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If Al Davis were still alive, Hue would have been fired by him too, if not after last season, it would have been after this one.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Posts 156 – 178:
Sheer nonsense.
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I think someone posted the Autumn Wind poem in there. That’s not nonsense.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Only 7 NFL teams uses the ZBS and only two are good at it. Houston and Green Bay. You must have smaller faster linemen in which the Raider don’t have. This is why it does not make sense for the Raiders to run it. Read below:
One of the simplest reasons many teams have incorporated zone blocking in their offenses is that zone blocking rules do not change based on the defensive front. In a “man block” system, blockers are paired with defenders according to certain rules to create a running lane. If the defensive front changes, or if the defense stunts or blitzes, the blocking rules may change. This requires learning multiple rules for the same play. Zone blocking uses very consistent rules that do not change according to the defensive front.
Some teams base their entire offense on it, including the NFL’s Washington Redskins, Indianapolis Colts, Oakland Raiders, Houston Texans, Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers. Adopting a variation of this scheme’s core principles, the West Virginia Mountaineers rely on it in the run-based spread offense, devised by former head coach Rich Rodriguez and former offensive line coach Rick Trickett, that they have used even after their departure. The University of Iowa under head coach Kirk Ferentz, a former NFL offensive line coach, utilizes zone blocking and the inside/outside stretch play as the basis for their offense. The University of Michigan also started using zone blocking under head coach Lloyd Carr in the 2006 season, and had continued to do so under his successor, Rodriguez.
The Carolina Panthers made the switch to zone blocking under offensive coordinator Jeff Davidson for the 2007 season. They had previously employed a man-blocking scheme for a downhill running attack under coordinator Dan Henning, but during the 2006 season, the team’s undersized linemen were consistently overpowered by opposing defensive linemen. The power running game became stagnant, and especially ineffective in goal-line/short yardage situations, thus resulting in Henning’s firing and the switch to zone blocking. Thanks in part to the new blocking scheme they implemented, the Panthers saw their 2008 campaign characterized by the running of DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart to great effect, gaining them play off status. That season also saw the emergence of rookie Steve Slaton with the Houston Texans under their new Alex Gibbs-designed zone blocking scheme.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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Aaaaand they’re doing a bang-up job.
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I’m not just talking about the Raiders. I am talking about 30 other franchises. But one did pick up Hue: To be an assistant to the DB’s. And After getting completely torched 2 weeks in a row, he just got bucked down to assistant to the special team coaches. Seriously.
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like I said have fun with our hueless raiders enjoy the game sunday. you are 1 of many who cant give a straight answer why is the O looking so much worse with same players Hue had?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Firing Hue wasn’t the dumbest move, neither was hiring Allen.
Allowing Knapp to return was monumentally stupid.
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I think very, very slowly some fans here are starting to realize the admin is going to change the systems in place, the personnel and do things their way. Getting rid of Jackson was smart. Getting Dennis Allen was smart. Ultimately, I think the admin will be proven right on those decisions. They wanted to run a WCO with zone blocking. Since they hired Allen fairly late, there was not a lot of guys out there that fit the bill. Knapp did. So, they hired him to bring in and teach the system they wanted.
Right now, the Raiders are married to Reggie MacKenzie and Dennis Allen. They are not married to Greg Knapp. I hope that clarifies things.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Besides that, everyone in here seems to be talking about Hue Jackson, politics or racism.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Yeah, the Blue are embarrasing. Not much to say about that.
Lakers though??? Really???
Oh, and to help you out, you need to move on from Huey. One could argue it was Jason Campbell making the offense run.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Raiders need to scrap their current system that force feeds the players a scheme that does not fit the player personel.
Allen needs to coach to the strengths of his current players. Get a effin clue coaches. Quit force feeding the players a scheme that does not fit the current personel. Players need coaches that fit the player personel.
Besides, the atiquidated scheme does not work, never will. It aint Raider football.
Wish Mr Davis was still here. He was on the rebound and this would of been our year. He never had cap issues.
And a pre-emptive to the haters, BFD.
This is BS. 0-2, really? Nice job in training camp, knapp. Really got those guys plugged up, like constipated. Thats what your scheme looks like, constipated. Lotta ooomph but just terd droplets.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The way the Bears o-line is playing, I’m sure we will get to see JC play some this year. That will be fun.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Firing Hue wasn’t the dumbest move, neither was hiring Allen.
Allowing Knapp to return was monumentally stupid.
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I think very, very slowly some fans here are starting to realize the admin is going to change the systems in place, the personnel and do things their way. Getting rid of Jackson was smart. Getting Dennis Allen was smart. Ultimately, I think the admin will be proven right on those decisions. They wanted to run a WCO with zone blocking. Since they hired Allen fairly late, there was not a lot of guys out there that fit the bill. Knapp did. So, they hired him to bring in and teach the system they wanted.
Right now, the Raiders are married to Reggie MacKenzie and Dennis Allen. They are not married to Greg Knapp. I hope that clarifies things.
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Oh thats real clear. knapp sucks. Reggie and allen are GB wanna-bes. I’m clear now.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
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like I said have fun with our hueless raiders enjoy the game sunday. you are 1 of many who cant give a straight answer why is the O looking so much worse with same players Hue had?
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I can certainly give you a straight answer: Because lst off, Jackson had those players and that offense for two years. The new admin has had them for 8 quarters. 2ndly, the offensive line is basically new: we have had 2 centers in 2 games, a new RG, a LG playing a new position and now a new RT who started playing in the lst half last week. 3rdly, we have a new TE who wasn’t a starter. 4th we had two guys starting at WR who, a) never played an NFL game in his life, and b) got signed 4 days before the opener. I can keep going…..
September 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
The People of Oakland hold all the power.
Want to see a change? STOP GOING TO THE GAMES!!
An empty stadium will speak much louder than a blog article.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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so let me get this straight when the so called experts agree with you you use them as a reference but when they disagree with you their idots I got ya Bush.
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I don’t consider the press to be experts. They are either critics or journalists. I consider the guys in the league to be experts. And not very often will one come out and completely contradict what I have said. You guys on the other hand….
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Well bush I offer this TJ Houshwhatever is a pro and he also disagrees with you so…
September 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Steelers are old
September 19th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
guess alot of people disagree with you bush.
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Actually a lot of people do disagree with me, you’re right. It just so happens the ones that agree with me happen to be in the National Football League.
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Aaaaand they’re doing a bang-up job.
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I’m not just talking about the Raiders. I am talking about 30 other franchises. But one did pick up Hue: To be an assistant to the DB’s. And After getting completely torched 2 weeks in a row, he just got bucked down to assistant to the special team coaches. Seriously.
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Don’t care. Doesn’t mean they’re right. A lot of factors go into coaching hires and alot of it has to do with cronyism and playing it safe so as not to jeopardize your own paycheck.
All I know is the Raiders were a 10-12 ppg offense for years before Hue arrived. During his two years running the offense we were a 24-26 ppg offense. Immediately upon his departure we’re back down to a 13 ppg offense so far. If the Raiders continue at this pace Hue will land an OC or HC job in 2013. If not, the people calling the shots for the other 31 teams are complete puzzies.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Reggie and allen are GB wanna-bes.
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If they have half the success GB has had in the last 15 years Raider fans will be dancing the hoochie coo.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Don’t care. Doesn’t mean they’re right. A lot of factors go into coaching hires and alot of it has to do with cronyism and playing it safe so as not to jeopardize your own paycheck.
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Hue Jackson only got hired in Cinncy because of cronyism. He and Marvin Lewis go back decades. If it wasn’t for cronyism, right now jackson would be a football coach at Encino High.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Just cuz Reggie and Allen want to phase in a system they like does not mean its gonna work. There are no garauntees. But last year we were very close and just needed a new DC. Period. Hue woulda been just fine, especially a new GM that could work with him. This years scheme sucks.
And BTW, the defense this year looked awesome at first against SD, but after they see what the scheme is doing to the offense, they’re probably getting infected from it. Incompetency is contagious.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
why is the O looking so much worse with same players Hue had?
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I can certainly give you a straight answer: Because lst off, Jackson had those players and that offense for two years. The new admin has had them for 8 quarters. 2ndly, the offensive line is basically new: we have had 2 centers in 2 games, a new RG, a LG playing a new position and now a new RT who started playing in the lst half last week. 3rdly, we have a new TE who wasn’t a starter. 4th we had two guys starting at WR who, a) never played an NFL game in his life, and b) got signed 4 days before the opener. I can keep going…..
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Thank You!!!
Same players my arsee!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Yeah, the Blue are embarrasing. Not much to say about that.
Lakers though??? Really???
Oh, and to help you out, you need to move on from Huey. One could argue it was Jason Campbell making the offense run.
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Jason Campbell? Come on.
Palmer > Gradkowski > Campbell
Campbell was a game manager at his very best. Master of the checkdown and occasional pass five yard out of bounds.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Wonder if this is part of Davis’ plan to move the Raiders from Oakland?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
why is the O looking so much worse with same players Hue had?
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I can certainly give you a straight answer: Because lst off, Jackson had those players and that offense for two years. The new admin has had them for 8 quarters. 2ndly, the offensive line is basically new: we have had 2 centers in 2 games, a new RG, a LG playing a new position and now a new RT who started playing in the lst half last week. 3rdly, we have a new TE who wasn’t a starter. 4th we had two guys starting at WR who, a) never played an NFL game in his life, and b) got signed 4 days before the opener. I can keep going…..
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Thank You!!!
Same players my arsee!!!
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Had them for 8 quartes? They’ve had them all training camp, pre-season and two regular season games.
I’m afraid what we see is what we get. Nothin.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
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like I said have fun with our hueless raiders enjoy the game sunday. you are 1 of many who cant give a straight answer why is the O looking so much worse with same players Hue had?
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I can certainly give you a straight answer: Because lst off, Jackson had those players and that offense for two years. The new admin has had them for 8 quarters. 2ndly, the offensive line is basically new: we have had 2 centers in 2 games, a new RG, a LG playing a new position and now a new RT who started playing in the lst half last week. 3rdly, we have a new TE who wasn’t a starter. 4th we had two guys starting at WR who, a) never played an NFL game in his life, and b) got signed 4 days before the opener. I can keep going…..
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only 1 new olinemen starting and thats brisel and he was supposed to be an upgrade and that was the new regimes dec to move those parts around so thats another bad move for them. Meyers was here last year and started a good amount of games last year. we had our 2 starting wr against mia in dhb and moore. plus they have a healthy dmc avg a grand 2.0 ypc and they have cp3 with a full offseason and camp. Go on…
September 19th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raider Something Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Just cuz Reggie and Allen want to phase in a system they like does not mean its gonna work. There are no garauntees.
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This is true. They could be colossal failures. But watching the lst two games we were in both. We had second half collapses. That needs to be corrected. I am actually shocked at how well we played in the lst half in Miami. Of course, I know, 30 minutes does not win a game.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Had them for 8 quartes? They’ve had them all training camp, pre-season and two regular season games.
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That’s 8 quarters.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
That was the line the media pushed to justify it, but Hue didn’t do anything that necessitated a firing. That’s a myth. Still have yet to hear one negative comment about Hue from the players
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Remember when cable was fired? Quite a few players stepped forward and said it was BS.
When Huge got fired…..not a peep.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
only 1 new olinemen starting and thats brisel and he was supposed to be an upgrade
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The offensive line is the most orchestrated, timing and seasoning unit on the team. If you took an offensive line and switched the tackles, switched the guard with the center and then flopped the other guard it would be a DISASTER out there. But you would say, it’s the same guys! That’s like taking a band and having the drummer play guitar, the bassist sing, the keyboardist hop on the kit…
September 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
why is the O looking so much worse with same players Hue had?
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I can certainly give you a straight answer: Because lst off, Jackson had those players and that offense for two years. The new admin has had them for 8 quarters. 2ndly, the offensive line is basically new: we have had 2 centers in 2 games, a new RG, a LG playing a new position and now a new RT who started playing in the lst half last week. 3rdly, we have a new TE who wasn’t a starter. 4th we had two guys starting at WR who, a) never played an NFL game in his life, and b) got signed 4 days before the opener. I can keep going…..
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Thank You!!!
Same players my arsee!!!
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Oh, come on. We have one new player on offense — Reggie’s prize free agent pickup Brisiel.
Calling Carlisle, who moved from RG to LG, and Wiz, who moved from LG to C, “new” is complete BS. Let’s be honest. This is the SAME offensive personnel.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Old I say
September 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Hue loved coaching the Raiders and it showed. Cable loved coaching the Raiders to. Doubt Lance even enjoyed it. Art Shell 2.0: indifferent. Norv Turner: quite puzzling. You know Gruden was a freak. I sure want to give Allen the benefit of the doubt, but its starting to wear thin quickly. And I know he is true to his job, but knapp as the OC?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
only 1 new olinemen starting and thats brisel and he was supposed to be an upgrade
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The offensive line is the most orchestrated, timing and seasoning unit on the team. If you took an offensive line and switched the tackles, switched the guard with the center and then flopped the other guard it would be a DISASTER out there. But you would say, it’s the same guys! That’s like taking a band and having the drummer play guitar, the bassist sing, the keyboardist hop on the kit…
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who’s idea was it to move the oline around? another dumb move like I said before go on…
September 19th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Raiders for life Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
That was the line the media pushed to justify it, but Hue didn’t do anything that necessitated a firing. That’s a myth. Still have yet to hear one negative comment about Hue from the players
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Remember when cable was fired? Quite a few players stepped forward and said it was BS.
When Huge got fired…..not a peep.
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Every player I heard quoted expressed total shock and it was clear they did not expect or agree with the move. I think with a new GM in the house they didn’t want to go too far and most just kept a low profile. But it was obvious that Hue never “lost the locker room” as some like to suggest.
You may want to worry more about the fact that Dennis Allen is another horrendous loss or two away from losing the locker room.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Chris,
What was the Raiders record last year after Jason Campbell was hurt?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Raiders for life Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
That was the line the media pushed to justify it, but Hue didn’t do anything that necessitated a firing. That’s a myth. Still have yet to hear one negative comment about Hue from the players
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Remember when cable was fired? Quite a few players stepped forward and said it was BS.
When Huge got fired…..not a peep.
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Every player I heard quoted expressed total shock and it was clear they did not expect or agree with the move. I think with a new GM in the house they didn’t want to go too far and most just kept a low profile. But it was obvious that Hue never “lost the locker room” as some like to suggest.
You may want to worry more about the fact that Dennis Allen is another horrendous loss or two away from losing the locker room.
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When Cable got the axe players did stand in the his corner. Really, not a peep for Jackson. And again, within a short time Cable was hired by Pete Carrol and has the title of Assistant Head Coach. Jackson is hanging in the league by his manicured nails right now.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raider Something Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Just cuz Reggie and Allen want to phase in a system they like does not mean its gonna work. There are no garauntees.
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This is true. They could be colossal failures. But watching the lst two games we were in both. We had second half collapses. That needs to be corrected. I am actually shocked at how well we played in the lst half in Miami. Of course, I know, 30 minutes does not win a game.
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You really think we played well in Miami? The Dolphins are one of the worst teams in the league. Reggie Bush is a scatback who looked like Earl Campbell. The line play was so bad McFadden was basically getting gang-tackled before he took the handoff.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
When I look at this 2012 version of the Raiders some things do jump out at me: I like this coaching staff. I didn’t think Knapp did a terrible job in play calling. Palmer seems to be playing fine. The Offensive line is not playing well, but they need time to jell. Darren McFadden has been awful. Rolando McClain in the last game was awful. The corners were awful. That’s what jumps out at me.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
“Ross is a big guy, a physical guy, has got some coverage skills” . lol.
SOME coverage skills for a CB is better than none displayed by Lee, Hanson and others.
Just afew years ago had both Charles Woodson and Aso and now we’re down to stealing kids with”some” skill from other team’s practice squad.
I’m beginning to ignore anything coming out of cp3’s mouth. “running game will come in time. DMC is so close in breaking an arm tackle and run 50 yards. Blah blah. ” what arm tackle ? And what’s he smoking? Running game is not like mail to arrive in due time. Does he think we’re all retards? Sheeees.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Calling Carlisle, who moved from RG to LG, and Wiz, who moved from LG to C, “new” is complete BS. Let’s be honest. This is the SAME offensive personnel.
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BS?????
So it’s all the same, eh?
C is no different than OG. RG and LG = same thing, eh?
If you say so, bruh.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Chris,
What was the Raiders record last year after Jason Campbell was hurt?
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Overly simplistic way to look at it. First of all, McFadden was out for the same stretch. McFadden’s absense was far more critical. Second, Palmer was brought in and trying to learn the offense on the fly. Not really an ideal situation for a QB. Third, the defense got much worse late in the season.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
You really think we played well in Miami? The Dolphins are one of the worst teams in the league. Reggie Bush is a scatback who looked like Earl Campbell. The line play was so bad McFadden was basically getting gang-tackled before he took the handoff.
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McFadden went out, and Goodson took it to the house. Early in the 2nd half we got the ball again, deep in our end. McFadden was on the sidelines, Goodson made a nice run, then caught another ball for about 20 yards. McFadden came back in and we punted.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Every player I heard quoted expressed total shock and it was clear they did not expect or agree with the move.
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Seriously, how many is “every”?
TJ Whosyourmama, and who else?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Jackson is hanging in the league by his manicured nails right now.
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thats funny gotta give you that one. but we will agree to disagree on HUE I’m a raider fan regardless of who the coach is but I am very frustrated so far with this new era.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
You really think we played well in Miami?
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We were leading at half.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Calling Carlisle, who moved from RG to LG, and Wiz, who moved from LG to C, “new” is complete BS. Let’s be honest. This is the SAME offensive personnel.
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BS?????
So it’s all the same, eh?
C is no different than OG. RG and LG = same thing, eh?
If you say so, bruh.
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RG and LG are really not significantly different at all in my book. No. Wiz has extensive experience as a center and that was the anticipated position for him all along.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Wow, such negativity on here for our Raiders.
I hope most of you guys will find time to take your pink jerseys off and come bask in the joy of a victory on Sunday.
I know talking about how right you are/were about the ZBS/Knapp/Hue Jackson situations gives you more pleasure, but don’t worry, over the years you will have plenty of instances from that of falling on your face, so let’s just enjoy ourselves now while we can.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
You really think we played well in Miami?
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It was a massive improvement from last years epic faceplant there.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
When I look at this 2012 version of the Raiders some things do jump out at me: I like this coaching staff. I didn’t think Knapp did a terrible job in play calling. Palmer seems to be playing fine. The Offensive line is not playing well, but they need time to jell. Darren McFadden has been awful. Rolando McClain in the last game was awful. The corners were awful. That’s what jumps out at me.
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see we can agree.except on DMC who is clearly struggling because of scheme.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Overly simplistic way to look at it. First of all, McFadden was out for the same stretch. McFadden’s absense was far more critical. Second, Palmer was brought in and trying to learn the offense on the fly. Not really an ideal situation for a QB. Third, the defense got much worse late in the season.
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I missed the record we had after Campbell went down.
What happened after Campbell went down that has you guys screaming for Hue effin Jackson???
For starters, why don’t we talk about his decision to go with Boeller as a backup. How would you compare that to us having to go with Goethel Monday night?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
239.J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Calling Carlisle, who moved from RG to LG, and Wiz, who moved from LG to C, “new” is complete BS. Let’s be honest. This is the SAME offensive personnel.
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BS?????
So it’s all the same, eh?
C is no different than OG. RG and LG = same thing, eh?
If you say so, bruh.
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Add losing Satelle……20% of the starting O-Line gone.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Anyone here ever try shiner bock?
September 19th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
FAWHIZZLE
yawl kno i aint takin a duece til the raids win one. i’m on a duece strike til the raids win one. but it aint easy. i got a lawg cookin inside thats gonna take a tug boat to steer it out. you kno its gonna be a monster duece. thats how i roll.
HOLLA, WORD
September 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Overly simplistic way to look at it. First of all, McFadden was out for the same stretch. McFadden’s absense was far more critical. Second, Palmer was brought in and trying to learn the offense on the fly. Not really an ideal situation for a QB. Third, the defense got much worse late in the season.
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I missed the record we had after Campbell went down.
What happened after Campbell went down that has you guys screaming for Hue effin Jackson???
For starters, why don’t we talk about his decision to go with Boeller as a backup. How would you compare that to us having to go with Goethel Monday night?
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the better question is what was our record after DMC got hurt.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
see we can agree.except on DMC who is clearly struggling because of scheme.
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Go back ESO and look at the tape. The most telling thing to me about McFadden is I don’t think he broke ONE TACKLE in that last game. That’s amazing. At one point, on a 2nd and 16, he gets 13 yards and goes to the boundary avoids contact and doesn’t even try for the lst. The Raiders don’t convert that 3rd down. On another 3rd down he is spread out to Palmers left iso’d on a LB. That is the dream matchup. Palmer doesn’t even look his way. He goes to Denarious instead. And let’s not forget the ball McFadden dropped at the one yard line which was a sure 6 early in the contest. Something is wrong.
September 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
GRIZZLE YAWL
u kno there is a lot of percolating goin on and a lot of out gassin but i got to be careful i dont open the door. when i say i’m duece strikin, i mean it. raids got to win one before i drop my next duece. aint easy with all the noise, but i mean what i says. thats how i roll.
HOLLA BOSCHIZZLE GRIZZLE WIZZLE
September 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
When I look at this 2012 version of the Raiders some things do jump out at me: I like this coaching staff. I didn’t think Knapp did a terrible job in play calling. Palmer seems to be playing fine. The Offensive line is not playing well, but they need time to jell. Darren McFadden has been awful. Rolando McClain in the last game was awful. The corners were awful. That’s what jumps out at me.
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I’m sorry, but placing blame on McFadden is ludicrous. By far our best player. He’s struggling because the offensive line has been hot garbage. Not even debatable.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
The headline on yahoo main page reads “The worst team in professional football”
And guess who they referring to?
And guess who’s picture is on the cover?
Raiders
Palmer
We are now becoming the laughing stock in social media too?
September 19th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wiz has extensive experience as a center and that was the anticipated position for him all along.
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I’ll let JFB address this, lol.
I’m surprised by your take, Chris. Honestly, I am.
Satele and Carlisle were the CLEAR weak links on the Oline LAST year. It was a surprise to NO ONE that C and RG were a priority to replace. 2 NEW PLAYERS AT THE POSITIONS!!!! Wiz did NOT play extensive C for us or anyone.
Carlisle was so good he lost his position in the offseason and was actually CUT. The Reggime had every intention of Bergstrom starting at LG. Carlisle/Bergstrom are NOT NEARLY as good as Wiz at LG.
LG is weaker than last year.
RG is no better than last year.
Parsons is not better than Satele.
Same Oline my arrsse!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Way better than steel reserve
September 19th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
see we can agree.except on DMC who is clearly struggling because of scheme.
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Go back ESO and look at the tape. The most telling thing to me about McFadden is I don’t think he broke ONE TACKLE in that last game. That’s amazing. At one point, on a 2nd and 16, he gets 13 yards and goes to the boundary avoids contact and doesn’t even try for the lst. The Raiders don’t convert that 3rd down. On another 3rd down he is spread out to Palmers left iso’d on a LB. That is the dream matchup. Palmer doesn’t even look his way. He goes to Denarious instead. And let’s not forget the ball McFadden dropped at the one yard line which was a sure 6 early in the contest. Something is wrong.
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wish I could see the game bush I live in AL and was treated to the jags texans game yipeee but I listned via online radio thank GOD for online radio.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
When Mark Davis made his first major move as the Raiders’ owner last January, hiring Reggie McKenzie as the team’s general manager and firing coach Hue Jackson after a solitary, 8-8 season, some of us blasted the decision like Jack Tatum lighting up a defenseless receiver back in the day.
It’s been a rotten start to Dennis Allen’s tenure with the Raiders. (AP)
In my column likening the late Al Davis’ son to “Tommy Boy”, I called Jackson’s firing an astonishingly dumb move. Then-Raiders wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh was among those who shared that opinion, telling me, “I’ll bet you San Diego, Kansas City and Denver like this move, because we would have been good next year with Hue.”
Well, next year is here, and it’s indeed a horror show: Two weeks into the 2012 season, the Raiders are the worst team in football – and the obvious occupant of the lowest rung on our 32 Questions status-interpretation ladder. They have taken the term ugly early to a new level, having been blown out last Sunday by the Dolphins, for whom the ignominious 32nd question was saved a week ago.
Or, to put it another way: The Romney campaign has had a better September than the Raiders.
I take no joy in the misery of Raider Nation. Oakland hasn’t had a winning season since 2002, and an extensive rebuilding process is a lot to ask of this particular fan base, especially when its rival across the Bay – to whom our first question is dedicated for the second consecutive week – looks like the class of football a year after a rookie coach provoked a dramatic turnaround.
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So far, Allen is the anti-Jim Harbaugh. On a positive note, the Raiders’ new coach is quite docile in news conferences (”We’ve got to coach better, we’ve got to play better”) and keeps his grooming habits to himself.
If his unmanicured hand can guide the Raiders out of this Black Hole anytime soon, there’s no question I’ll be forced to reassess my view of the situation. Until then, I miss Hue – and whether they admit it, I suspect a lot of Raiders fans do, too.
And we’re ranked #32 in yahoo’s power rankings!!!
YOU HEAR THAT REGGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
the better question is what was our record after DMC got hurt.
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Good question.
What was the record???
Remember the topic is the stellar job Huey did.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wiz has extensive experience as a center and that was the anticipated position for him all along.
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I’ll let JFB address this, lol.
I’m surprised by your take, Chris. Honestly, I am.
Satele and Carlisle were the CLEAR weak links on the Oline LAST year. It was a surprise to NO ONE that C and RG were a priority to replace. 2 NEW PLAYERS AT THE POSITIONS!!!! Wiz did NOT play extensive C for us or anyone.
Carlisle was so good he lost his position in the offseason and was actually CUT. The Reggime had every intention of Bergstrom starting at LG. Carlisle/Bergstrom are NOT NEARLY as good as Wiz at LG.
LG is weaker than last year.
RG is no better than last year.
Parsons is not better than Satele.
Same Oline my arrsse!!!
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Parsons is not a starter leaving brisel as the only newcomer and he was supposed to be an upgrade still same peronel. it was new regime idea to move theese guys around so that blame goes on them also.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
HEY HEY MY OH MY
dudes i got a behemouth turd just waitin to show its face. but i means what i says. i’m on strike, i wont drop a duece til the raids win one. thats how i roll.
even had a dinner at the royal buffet, you know i ate for two hours, all you can eat, they asked me to leave. said i was gonna eat the house dry. raids got to win on sunday. i’ll be at the game and when they win, you know i’ll be ready to plop a winner.
HOLLA
September 19th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
You really think we played well in Miami?
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It was a massive improvement from last years epic faceplant there.
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21-13 at the beginning of the 4th? One possession game. And that was after the two Reggie Bush TD runs which completely demoralized the team. A quick breakdown on those runs, on the lst shorter run, Seymour and Kelly are not on the field. On the longer run, Wheeler takes the wrong angle, it is then up to McClain to stop the play, he fails, and then Branch effs up. Wheeler and Branch had decent games. McClain did not.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
McFadden could certainly play better.
Mike Goodson could ball out if there were huge holes to run through. Playmakers MAKE things happen.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
WOW, just fking wow, now DMC is the reason the Offense sucks? WTF is wrong with some of you people? DMC looks like the DMC the last time we had the Knapp system here, in Hues system he looked like a beast running people over, around, and trucking fools. He just can’t get going in this system PERIOD end of story. YOU PEOPLE SMH
September 19th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Wiz did play center in college didn’t he?
September 19th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
The only person in the entire organization who gets a pass IMO is DMC. The line is getting blown up, he hasnt missed any holes bc there arent any. He is the only raider in the past who ever produced at a pro bowl level(except maybe Jano and Lechler). DMC is not the problem and is one of the few players who can be part of the solution
September 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Wiz has extensive experience as a center and that was the anticipated position for him all along.
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I’ll let JFB address this, lol.
I’m surprised by your take, Chris. Honestly, I am.
Satele and Carlisle were the CLEAR weak links on the Oline LAST year. It was a surprise to NO ONE that C and RG were a priority to replace. 2 NEW PLAYERS AT THE POSITIONS!!!! Wiz did NOT play extensive C for us or anyone.
Carlisle was so good he lost his position in the offseason and was actually CUT. The Reggime had every intention of Bergstrom starting at LG. Carlisle/Bergstrom are NOT NEARLY as good as Wiz at LG.
LG is weaker than last year.
RG is no better than last year.
Parsons is not better than Satele.
Same Oline my arrsse!!!
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I’ll grant you that Satele > Brisiel. The rest is just noise. Musical chairs. Wiz played center at Penn State and it was widely assumed he would play C for us when he was drafted. But other than swapping out Satele for Brisiel (a mistake by Reggie) the rest is the same, interior position shuffling be damned. You’re an interior lineman, execute your blocks. In all honesty it’s not that different. It all comes down to executing blocks. How is it that receivers seamlessly transition from lining up on the left and right sides and switching back and forth throughout the game? This new LG, new C business is weak.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
the better question is what was our record after DMC got hurt.
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Good question.
What was the record???
Remember the topic is the stellar job Huey did.
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come on J really? what was indy’s record last year without manning? any coach would struggle without their best player and “HUEY” WOULD HAVE STILL GOTTEN US IN THE PLAYOFFS IF IT WASNT FOR CHUCK B YEAH J REMEMBER HIM?
September 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
When I look at this 2012 version of the Raiders some things do jump out at me: I like this coaching staff. I didn’t think Knapp did a terrible job in play calling. Palmer seems to be playing fine. The Offensive line is not playing well, but they need time to jell. Darren McFadden has been awful. Rolando McClain in the last game was awful. The corners were awful. That’s what jumps out at me.
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I’m sorry, but placing blame on McFadden is ludicrous. By far our best player. He’s struggling because the offensive line has been hot garbage. Not even debatable.
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The most telling thing to me is McFadden went down on lst contact every single time. Reggie Bush broke 4 tackles on ONE PLAY! That’s the difference. And that is a big damn difference.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Goodson hasn’t done schit running the ball either. Taiwan might be a fit for this system, but he can’t stay healthy.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
reggie is forcing da to play goodson over jones….
September 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
McFadden could certainly play better.
Mike Goodson could ball out if there were huge holes to run through. Playmakers MAKE things happen.
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That’s what I saw. Mike Goodson 3 receptions for 83 yards and a score. Darren mcFadden 2 receptions for 19 yards. And McFadden played 5 times as many plays. Something is wrong.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
McFadden could certainly play better.
Mike Goodson could ball out if there were huge holes to run through. Playmakers MAKE things happen.
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Goodson caught a swing pass, uncovered, and ran in a straight line to the end zone without being touched. I’m pretty sure I could’ve moonwalked that one in myself. His only carry went for -5 yards. So let’s slow down on the Goodson as a starter talk.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Hmmm, maybe the difference between Reggie bush and Darren McFadden last week was that McFadden is running behind an offensive line that is not in synch, and bush was running a bunch of defenders who have failed against the run year in and year out for the better part of a decade?
Dumbest fans in America…
September 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
McFadden > Jones > Goodson
September 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
McFadden could certainly play better.
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No he cant. His feet are tied by an o-line that doesn’t mesh with a horrid scheme. It’s coaching. Poor ass gameplanning, plays designed for players we dont have. Its a horrid ugly pathetic scheme. Doesnt work. They had all pre season to get it right and they failed. The coaches failed. We have good to great players. We have coaches that dont understand the players. Its fcking coaching.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Haters, quit hatin on the players. Its coaching. OC cant coach’em up.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
McFadden could certainly play better.
Mike Goodson could ball out if there were huge holes to run through. Playmakers MAKE things happen.
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stop it j you are losing credibility FAST with this goodson talk.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
It seems like 08-09 season all over with the DMC hate going on in here. Yep you know it, thats when we were running a WC offense and ZBS. Its not fking rocket science people sheeesh
September 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
eymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
When I look at this 2012 version of the Raiders some things do jump out at me: I like this coaching staff. I didn’t think Knapp did a terrible job in play calling. Palmer seems to be playing fine. The Offensive line is not playing well, but they need time to jell. Darren McFadden has been awful. Rolando McClain in the last game was awful. The corners were awful. That’s what jumps out at me.
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I’m sorry, but placing blame on McFadden is ludicrous. By far our best player. He’s struggling because the offensive line has been hot garbage. Not even debatable.
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The most telling thing to me is McFadden went down on lst contact every single time. Reggie Bush broke 4 tackles on ONE PLAY! That’s the difference. And that is a big damn difference.
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DMC has to run 30 yds side to side to gain 3. he ’s having to dodge defenders 2 yds behind the line of scrimmage. Reggie made our lbs and cbs look foolish. DMC hasnt had the holes to get to the secondary yet.If your this hard on DMC, then everyone else on the roster should be executed. DMC is our only playmaker
September 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Goodson is also terrible in pass protection where McFadden excels. McFadden is better than Goodson in every facet of the game and it’s not at all close.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
DMC > Any back in the league
September 19th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
But then the same thing happened in week one: McFadden 15 for 32 yards or slightly above 2 a carry. Goodson 2 for 13 yards, or 6.5 a carry. Now let’s be serious is Goodson better than McFadden? Let’s not go crazy. But something is wrong and we have seen this sulking act before. For years.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Goodson is also terrible in pass protection where McFadden excels. McFadden is better than Goodson in every facet of the game and it’s not at all close.
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Absolutely. But something is wrong.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
LOL at you guy arguing we have the same Oline.
That is effin HUH LARRY US!!!!!
I think Wiz played 1 year of C at Penn State, and it wasn’t the year before he was drafted by us.
Wiz couldn’t beat out Samsom bum arsse Satele at C, lol. He’s LEARNING on the job. With that said, he’s an upgrade at C.
Carlisle was the other WEAK link. He was CUT this offseason. Brought back for DEPTH. He’s starting at LG, and he is NOT anywhere near the player Wiz was there last year. Downgrade at LG.
Briesel has not worked out. Maybe his leg hasn’t fully healed? RG = same HOLE we had last year.
Now, RT is in question too.
Not the same Oline.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
DMAC= 11 Att, 22yds
Come on now. That’s ridiculous. He was the NFL leading rusher last year before the injury.
It’s the scheme. Knapp needs to be fired. Actually DA needs to be fired for hiring Knapp and Reggie needs to be fired for allowing it.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We do have the same fking Olinemen except one Olineman PERIOD. Move on
September 19th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
LOL at you guy arguing we have the same Oline.
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We don’t have the same offensive line. If one part is different it is not the same offensive line. We have had different parts at every single position except LT.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
A lot of the people who are currently questioning McFadden have agendas against him dating back 4 years.
Ignore them, they sound ignorant because they took it personal when McFadden made them look like fools once hue took over for the wife beating buffoon on offense two years ago, and now they are trying to save face by blaming him again.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Now you could say two because it sounds like Barnes won’t be ready, but you can’t argue that there has ben only one new olineman
September 19th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
So let’s slow down on the Goodson as a starter talk.
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Who said anything about Goodson being a starter?
You guys talking about McFadden needing all these holes to run through is crazy talk to me. He should be able to make SOMETHING happen on the field if he is the best RB in the league.
Goodson, Mike Bush, and a BUNCH of BACKUP RBs in the league can avg 5 yds per carry if there were always huge holes to run through.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
J Hill agree with about the oline..I also think big Wiz leaving was the first signal things were not going to go well with this unit
September 19th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
j you are losing credibility
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With who????
Cmon doggie dogg … you know I can give a flying phuuggg what folks think.
Imma keep it J all day!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
goodson hasnt done a thing but 1 catch…
September 19th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Biggest concerns: Tennessee Titans and Oakland Raiders
Tennessee’s offense is in shambles and the defense may be worse. Jake Locker is learning on the fly. There aren’t enough playmakers on defense; the San Diego Chargers steamrolled them. The Titans play in a weak division, but the expectations were higher here. There is nothing special about this team. Their 0-2 has mattered because of the way it’s happened.
The Raiders were lucky to be competitive in Week 1 at home against the Chargers, and they got the doors blown off in Miami. The secondary is a problem they just may not be able to overcome. The offense is going through a major transition period. The Raiders could be the worst team in the NFL.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000063874/article/breaking-down-the-02-teams-which-one-rebounds?module=HP11_content_stream
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Somebody has their head up their salad bowl, and it aint the playahs.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
But then the same thing happened in week one: McFadden 15 for 32 yards or slightly above 2 a carry. Goodson 2 for 13 yards, or 6.5 a carry. Now let’s be serious is Goodson better than McFadden? Let’s not go crazy. But something is wrong and we have seen this sulking act before. For years.
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Dmac misses Hue.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
DMC has proven he doesn’t need huge holes ( have you not ben watching the Raiders the last two years ) but he needs atleast a crack not a solid brick wall
September 19th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
The fat turd is about to hit the proverbial fan.
I posted this morning that of course BigMac doesn’t read or care to what we write in this blogs.
But, Atrociously Monte and JMac the Hack are putting some teeth to their bite. So, what starts brewing inside the belly of the fans soon surfaces and it’s taken on by the local fishwrap. So, how far before the blades begin splattering excrement all over OakTown?
Monte saying things would’ve been better off with HueSux is a mighty low blow to BigMac, keep punching Atrocious you just might throw a KO.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
What was the record???
Remember the topic is the stellar job Huey did.
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come on J really? what was indy’s record last year without manning? any coach would struggle without their best player and “HUEY” WOULD HAVE STILL GOTTEN US IN THE PLAYOFFS IF IT WASNT FOR CHUCK B YEAH J REMEMBER HIM?
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LOL at Hue’s 2 lawyers not posting his won loss record after Campbell or heck, even McFadden.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
289, and Youre NOT alone,please stfup,going into game 3,THREE,and some of ya are talkin next year.I could be wrong, but think that the Boys were 2 and 3, ended up in the big Game,NOT sayin SB, But let the Games play out, plenty of time to whine. RAIDERS!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Who farted in here? This place stinks. Smells like ass in here.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Dakota Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
A lot of the people who are currently questioning McFadden have agendas against him dating back 4 years.
Ignore them, they sound ignorant because they took it personal when McFadden made them look like fools once hue took over for the wife beating buffoon on offense two years ago, and now they are trying to save face by blaming him again.
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Mcfadden is the best back in the league. Last year under Saunders, over 5 yds a carry.
This year under Knapp…2 yds a carry.
And that’s why Knapp must go.
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp#
September 19th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Chris in NY Says: Third, the defense got much worse late in the season./////////That the defense that gave up 5 td’s in 5 possessions in the 2nd half against Buffalo in game 2?
September 19th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Zopi Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
The fat turd is about to hit the proverbial fan.
I posted this morning that of course BigMac doesn’t read or care to what we write in this blogs.
But, Atrociously Monte and JMac the Hack are putting some teeth to their bite. So, what starts brewing inside the belly of the fans soon surfaces and it’s taken on by the local fishwrap. So, how far before the blades begin splattering excrement all over OakTown?
Monte saying things would’ve been better off with HueSux is a mighty low blow to BigMac, keep punching Atrocious you just might throw a KO.
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If Sunday’s game goes as bad as expected Raider Nation will make their displeasure known. Get ready for the “boooooos!”
September 19th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
What the new regime loyalists do not understand is last year we were better that our record. Just needed a new DC. Hue just needed a ‘boss’ so to speak, and thats it. We trashed this team with the ZBS/WCO manure and this, 0-2 is the result. And this 0-2 produced bottom feeding numbers too. Its just insanity what the new regime did.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
hendu Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
289, and Youre NOT alone,please stfup,going into game 3,THREE,and some of ya are talkin next year.I could be wrong, but think that the Boys were 2 and 3, ended up in the big Game,NOT sayin SB, But let the Games play out, plenty of time to whine. RAIDERS!!!!!
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This guy is exactly right. If you want to focus on positives the Raiders did not play as poorly as most of you would like to believe. In both games thru three quarters we were in the game. The Raiders have to find a way to play better in the second halves of games. That is the answer.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Raider Something Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
What the new regime loyalists do not understand is last year we were better that our record.
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No one is better than their record. Sorry.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
did beeechy dawg come back?
September 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
i bet he is out with that floozy antoine.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Is it either Al Davis loyalist or New Reggime loyalist???
Is there another option?
I’m a silver and black loyalist. I’m all for ANYTHING that make the tam better. Including acknowledging we need upgrades at OG, CB, S, nd creative game planning.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Is it either Al Davis loyalist or New Reggime loyalist???
Is there another option?
I’m a silver and black loyalist. I’m all for ANYTHING that make the tam better. Including acknowledging we need upgrades at OG, CB, S, nd creative game planning.
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Thank You! “If you criticize mcFadden you have an agenda”. WTF? Actually, I do have an agenda: I want to win games.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I second that sentiment J Hill.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I’m a silver and black loyalist. I’m all for ANYTHING that make the tam better. Including acknowledging we need upgrades at OG, CB, S, nd creative game planning.
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Wisneiwski got schooled by Solai in the last game. He may unfortunately not be the answer.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
If it is any consolation I have a funny feeling this team is not going to look anything like last years or this year team two years from now.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I just don’t see how you can blame McFadden, when he’s healthy he’s considered the best back in the league. He’s healthy. The only thing different is the scheme, not McFadden.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Is it either Al Davis loyalist or New Reggime loyalist???
Is there another option?
I’m a silver and black loyalist. I’m all for ANYTHING that make the tam better. Including acknowledging we need upgrades at OG, CB, S, nd creative game planning.
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I’m a real Raider fan.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I just don’t see how you can blame McFadden, when he’s healthy he’s considered the best back in the league. He’s healthy. The only thing different is the scheme, not McFadden.
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Big Fckn B for BINGO.
How would you like workin for a job foreman who made you do crap that was beneath you. DMAC is a power runner that thrives in a PBS.
Check this out: You wonder why DMAC hasn’t had any success thus far? You think the formations and the predictability of the scheme telegraph it? They give it away?
I’m afraid we may loss the best back in the NFL if we can’t make him happy.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
The only thing different is the scheme,
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The interior of the Oline is also different.
My eyes tell me the C, LG, and RG have been subpar at best these 1st 2 games. They are literally getting their arsses handed to them.
UDFA STARTER at WR was not good in game one.
QB and our best WR didn’t have much cohesiveness in his 1st game back.
Not sure a scheme change addresses those things.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Garbo Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I just don’t see how you can blame McFadden, when he’s healthy he’s considered the best back in the league. He’s healthy. The only thing different is the scheme, not McFadden.
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Big Fckn B for BINGO.
How would you like workin for a job foreman who made you do crap that was beneath you. DMAC is a power runner that thrives in a PBS.
Check this out: You wonder why DMAC hasn’t had any success thus far? You think the formations and the predictability of the scheme telegraph it? They give it away?
I’m afraid we may loss the best back in the NFL if we can’t make him happy.
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So, say I agree with all of your assessments with the ZBS. Which I don’t. Then why did McFadden have more drops than receptions in the last game? And I mean wide open drops. ZBS to blame for that? Lack of concentration? Sulking? Point shaving?
September 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Non responsive.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Man I told you since the last game of the season last year that if CP3 did not have all his WRs’ available to hime AND the 1-2 punch of Dmac and Bush, it was going to be a collective struggle on offense. Now, throw in a new scheme and we got total chaos. Borderline anarchy, but chaos noen the less. Not tootin my own horn here, but I saw it comin when Saunders wasn’t named the OC. Losin Bush was awful.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
DMac and Palmer sit down with Knapp often.
You guys really think they don’t have any input on the game plan?
September 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–nfl-power-rankings–life-without-hue-jackson-not-working-so-well-for-raider-nation.html
September 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Hate to Agree with this guy, but hes right! (so far)
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–nfl-power-rankings–life-without-hue-jackson-not-working-so-well-for-raider-nation.html
September 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Cornfucious say:
if it look like poo
if it smell like poo
if it taste like poo
then it must be poo
September 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
You think it was Palmer and Dmac’s idea to go ZBS?
September 19th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
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So, say I agree with all of your assessments with the ZBS. Which I don’t. Then why did McFadden have more drops than receptions in the last game? And I mean wide open drops. ZBS to blame for that? Lack of concentration? Sulking? Point shaving?
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He knows hes going to get blasted 3-5 yards behind the line of scrimmage so best not catch it to avoid the loss.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
DMac and Palmer sit down with Knapp often.
You guys really think they don’t have any input on the game plan?
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No, I don’t.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Big Dummy needs to go,..0-16 should do it,..Im all for 0-16 if it means Big Dummy hits the road.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I said gameplan, not scheme.
Pretty sure there are some plays in Knapps playbook that 20 and 3 are more than comfortable with.
Speaking of pre season, DMac ran the ball pretty well.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Then-Raiders wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh was among those who shared that opinion, telling me, “I’ll bet you San Diego, Kansas City and Denver like this move, because we would have been good next year with Hue.”
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Players can tell it like it is.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
He knows hes going to get blasted 3-5 yards behind the line of scrimmage so best not catch it to avoid the loss.
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So, when he drops the ball at the one yard line with no one around him you think he is embracing the loss? Meaning wanting to lose?
September 19th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I said gameplan, not scheme.
Pretty sure there are some plays in Knapps playbook that 20 and 3 are more than comfortable with.
Speaking of pre season, DMac ran the ball pretty well.
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No he didn’t. ZBS couldn’t even help him punch it in from the one several times.
It’s a fckng mess right now.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Garbo Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
DMac and Palmer sit down with Knapp often.
You guys really think they don’t have any input on the game plan?
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No, I don’t.
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Clearly they do. Especially guys like Palmer and McFadden. I am sure they told McFadden he was going to be the bell cow for the SD game. It didn’t work out tho did it.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
The Raiders used to be tough,..physical,..now being run by a bunch of losers like Big Dummy, teams gone soft…Big Dummy gotta go.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
DMC is a candy asss female dog.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Pretty sure there are some plays in Knapps playbook that 20 and 3 are more than comfortable with.
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I haven’t seen one yet. I’m pretty sure it’s all chaos now, even if there is a play they might be comfortable with.
If the Raiders win Sunday, hope will resurface. If they lose a close one, you know at least they haven’t mailed it in, and if they get blown away, you can bet the back side of your ass they have mailed it in.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
As I recall DMAC did not run well in preseason.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’m not a ZBS defender, or any so called scheme.
The better player is going to win the individual battle.
When will Carlisle ever be the better player in his one on one matchup?
Briesel????
Wiz at C????
September 19th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Raiders Superbowl is this weekend. Steeler game is the season. we’ll probably see some fight this week. if OAK loses its time to sit Palmer and see what Pryor can do. and why not cut Seymour and kelly, dline is crap now and these guys don’t live up to the hype. fire Knapp too. Raider fans are tired and another 10 year “rebuild” doesn’t sound too good but this team needs to be purged.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
The Raiders had the #5 Oline last year.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Dmac was sick:’(
September 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
You come in and blow up the #5 Oline in the NFL?
Good Oline’s are hard to come by, and the foundation of an Offense.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
54-3 Steelers,..Big Dummy on his way out soon. Praise God.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
The Raiders had the #5 Oline last year.
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As in 5th best Oline in the league????
NO, they did not.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
You come in and blow up the #5 Oline in the NFL?
Good Oline’s are hard to come by, and the foundation of an Offense.
>> yeah, oline was great last year. NOW all i see is DMAC getting stuffed in the backfield and palmer throwing while backpeddling. its fukin pathetic
September 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Wow me and that old fool Kell agree that Big Dummy Reggie is an illiterate dummy,…gotta go.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
The Niners wouldnt let Big Dummy Reggie mow their lawns. Under qualified.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
54-3 Steelers,..Big Dummy on his way out soon. Praise God.
>> no no, this will be the best game the Raiders play all year. THIS is the season. 0-3 is death, but the steelers will still probably win. But the Raiders will play well enough give fans excuses to “believe” in the Raiders this year.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The o line is terrible! Like another poster said, you need to win your individual battle, ZBS or not. But please stop with the nonsense of benching palmer and starting Pryor.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I have made no judgement on Reggie yet, but i will say that he like “effort” players BUT players need talent as well.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Why did John Madden sign off on McKenzie?
I know Wolf wanted his son to geyt Reggie’s old job, but what was Madden’s logic?
September 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
54-3,..cant ya read?..by the way Big Dummy Reggie cant. Illiterate.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
J Hill.
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J Hill Says:
LOL at you guy arguing we have the same Oline.
That is effin HUH LARRY US!!!!!
I think Wiz played 1 year of C at Penn State, and it wasn’t the year before he was drafted by us.
Wiz couldn’t beat out Samsom bum arsse Satele at C, lol. He’s LEARNING on the job. With that said, he’s an upgrade at C.
Carlisle was the other WEAK link. He was CUT this offseason. Brought back for DEPTH. He’s starting at LG, and he is NOT anywhere near the player Wiz was there last year. Downgrade at LG.
Briesel has not worked out. Maybe his leg hasn’t fully healed? RG = same HOLE we had last year.
Now, RT is in question too.
Not the same Oline.
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And who decided to make those moves?.
Who decided to tinker with an OL that had blocked for top 7 rushing attacks during the last 2 seasons?.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
CVRaider Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The o line is terrible! Like another poster said, you need to win your individual battle, ZBS or not. But please stop with the nonsense of benching palmer and starting Pryor.
>> if Raiders lose sunday there is no point in laying palmer. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs. besides have you seen the games? Palmer is getting pummeled and wont make it 8 games anyways.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Did Madden “sign off” on him?…I never saw that. Maybe old fool Kell has a link for ya.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
The thought that Reggie doesn’t give a red rats rip what the fans think (sound familiar?)maybe true but u can bet your bippy (love saying that) that Amy Trask does and the public relations department and that feedback gets back to Mark. Does Mark worry about local writers questioning the very course of this “new era”?
I don’t know what Mark worries about. If he worries about revenue from ticket sales at the OCO than he better get on Reggie to get his schytt together and in turn get on DA that we need to see some W’s pretty darn quick, cuz if he doesn’t…and this team goes to 0-5 or worse? You will see 20k at the OCO for the Jags game.
I love the fact Monte Poole wrote that article cuz now they know it’s not just us persky, greedy fans that are fed up with being one of the worst teams in the league, and our supposed superstar being squelched by some televangelist haircut looking offense killer.
Monte correctly gives blame to the new HC for hiring this guy in the first freaking place.
Not sure how much Mark and/or Reggie care. If they do, they aren’t saying anything about it…only defending the horrendous product put out on the field.
They don’t even acknowledge the fan base or give us ANYTHING as far as encouragement or understanding of our frustration..NOTHING but defiance telling us basically to shut the f up and be patient.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Reggie can run a payroll though and doesn’t handout insane contracts from what I’ve seen. WAY TOO early to pass judgement on Reggie. only trolls are doing that.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Monte Pool is about as stupid as Big Dummy Reggie. Ever hear Monte talk?…sounds about as dumb as Big Dummy Reggie.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
ArmChair
You on here tonight? If so check out my latest post on the Fire Greg Knapp Page. It should give you a chuckle.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Its all good,…Big Dummy goes 0-16,…then we can get Gruden back,..and a smart guy with him, like Bruce Allen,…now thats a winning combo,..not an idiot like Big Dummy Reggie.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–nfl-power-rankings–life-without-hue-jackson-not-working-so-well-for-raider-nation.html
Has anybody else seen this? Just pathetic that this is what its come to.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Marley,
I’d have to say McKenzie made the roster moves.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Big Dummy Reggie gotta go.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Silver put a lot on Hue last year before the season started. Predicted we would be playing in the AFC Championship game.
Of course he’s going to write pro Hue stuff.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
DA using the excuse of the zbs (as it concerns the Raiders) that he’s “seen it work before”, is like saying “we’re just gonna give the ball to Owen Schmitt every play, i’ve see John Riggins do well”.
The “system” has worked before but u need the personnel to execute it.
He believes we have the personnel…results on the field don’t show it.
That’s all that matters and he’d better figure that out quick and there’s gonna be a freaking mutiny.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Just a few weeks ago most people here had high hopes for the season, most people expected this team to get better than last year’s, most people expected to be in the hunt for a playoff spot and maybe getin, some were expecting a Division Title.
Everyboy claimed the team had improved, Management was better, Coaching was better and players would play better under great new schemes.
I’m pretty sure Reggie and DA felt the same way.
Nobody expected this.
So spare me the “we are going to build from the ground up and this is going to take 2-3 years stuff” because just weeks ago you were expecting a serious playoff run from this very same team.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Big Dummy Reggie gots ta go.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
JHill #5 Oline in the NFL last year
Check nfl.com
Gnite Gents
September 19th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Big Dummy Reggie gots ta go.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
True! And the red-headed freakish spawn and the mom have to go to: terminate Davis management.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Reggie should have held the offense completely intact from the years before, scheme, plays, players, etc., and just worked on the defense, getting rid of almost everyone including Seymour, McClain, Kelly, Routt, Huff, all CB’s, and any other defenseman with a bloated salary.
It’s just common sense. Seems like RM just doesn’t have that.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Way to generalize, Bob.
I’ve said all along we might not make the playoff this year. In fact, I’ve said all along we may have a worse record this year than last year. That being said, I still think this system is better than the last. We have management with a long term vision now, a necessity at this level. We did not have that at this point last year.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
There is no Davis management,..its Big Dummy and thats all.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Amy, do you realize that only one team in NFL history has gone 0-16? Do you realize that most 0-2 teams, and I mean the vast majority, don’t even go 3-13? Let alone 2-14, 1-15, etc. You’re hitting the panic button way too early.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Whats up with this new Infinity engine on Madden 13 ? like really i paid to see D players tripping over other players every single time after the play is over, or RB’s getting going down because they ran into their own linemen in 7 of 10 run plays called ….was playing this game in rain … No mud stains on shirts, nothing wrong with accuracy of QB’s , no problem running routes… No foot marks or messed up fields, No tendency to fumble more in rain .. wtf .. they fix 1 thing and fukk up 10 other things
September 19th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Reggie and DA will get time, no issue there, they will take their lumps as first timers usually do and hopefully get better, I support those guys 100% (specially Reggie), but they’re in control now and are subject to criticism like everybody else around the League and I’m sure they can take it so we don’t need to make excuses for them.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Reggie bothered me from the moment I heard him say that he didn’t know much about the current roster cause he was in GB…That’s pretty scary for a GM not to have info on the rosters of the other teams in the league, FF football dorks had a better understanding of the rosters in the NFL than our new GM…now he’s got full control and a pansy azz lazy boss who couldn’t even be bothered to interview more than 1 candidate…this whole transition has been a disaster and know it’s becoming evident for everyone to see.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
No Davis management? Only “big dummy” McKenzie? GOOD! Al was great at one time. But any “dummy” is better than what he was in his latter years.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Bob, we don’t need to write them off after 2 games, either.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
MR.
How are you holding up without Al?.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Raidersone, I don’t know if u mean to do it, but everytime you refer to Mark Davis as the “Redheaded freakish spawn” it seriously cracks me up..
That, and Omorans.. “UP YOUR NOSE WITH THE RUBBER HOSE”!
September 19th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Bob, Jesus H. Christ, man. Al Davis, the previous GM for all intents and purposes, didn’t have so much as a winning season in his final 9 years. Reggie is 2 games into his career. And you’re saying he deserves the same criticism for 2 losses that Al deserved for GOING 9 YEARS WITHOUT A WINNING SEASON? Bob, I know you’re more sensible than that.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Bob, how about you give Reggie the same amount of time you gave Al. When Reggie completes his 9th season without a playoff appearance, then criticize him.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Bob, we don’t need to write them off after 2 games, either.
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No way, I’m not giving up yet, if we can beat Pitt and Atlanta can take down SD, we’re 1 game back, Houston has a more than solid shot to take down Denver as well.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
MR.
How are you holding up without Al?.
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Taking it to a personal level. Just like that. Notice in every comment I’ve directed toward you, I’ve stayed on the topic we’re discussing. Didn’t take you long, did it? Everyone can see who cast the first stone this time.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Getting a GM was going to happen regardless once Al was gone, there was no way Mark could or would even want to do his dad’s old job.
Getting a Competent GM was the goal, that’s still up for debate.
Hiring a DC w/ only 1 season of experience because he was his guy, even though he claims he didn’t know anything about DA before he interviewed him, makes me a little suspect of his ability to make the kind of IRS he’s made and I’m extremely skeptical of his choices.
Especially since he was interviewed saying he thought this team was going to be “pretty good”…So far, we’re pretty damn far from Good, just like Reggie.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Bob, I don’t expect you to give Reggie the 9 years you gave Al, but at least give him 2. Is that asking too much? 9 straight years Al’s team failed to reach the playoffs. And you had his back all the way through. For 9 years. Give Reggie 2, Bob. That’s it. Just 2. Can you do that?
September 19th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Bob, Jesus H. Christ, man. Al Davis, the previous GM for all intents and purposes, didn’t have so much as a winning season in his final 9 years. Reggie is 2 games into his career. And you’re saying he deserves the same criticism for 2 losses that Al deserved for GOING 9 YEARS WITHOUT A WINNING SEASON? Bob, I know you’re more sensible than that.
Bob, how about you give Reggie the same amount of time you gave Al. When Reggie completes his 9th season without a playoff appearance, then criticize him.
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MR.
Life goes on buddy, let Al rest in peace.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Bob, I don’t expect you to give Reggie the 9 years you gave Al, but at least give him 2. Is that asking too much? 9 straight years Al’s team failed to reach the playoffs. And you had his back all the way through. For 9 years. Give Reggie 2, Bob. That’s it. Just 2. Can you do that?.
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MR.
Not 2, I’ll give him 3 and probably 4 if things are looking up at that time.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Bob, now it’s personal with you.
Just give Reggie 2 years, Bob. You gave Al 9 years. And the first 7 of those 9 were A-W-F-U-L. But man, did you just play the pragmatic company guy all the way through, telling everyone to be patient, that Al would right the ship. He never did. Unless you call 8-8 righting the ship. You patiently shilled for Al for nearly a decade, Bob. Just give Reggie a couple of years. Please. That’s it. Just 2.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Well, Bob, you gave Al 9…when things were looking anything but up. But if you’ll give Reggie a 4th year, only if things are looking up, that’s fair enough. Thank you, Bob. I’ll take it.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Goodnight, Bob. It’s good to see you here again, btw. Always thought you were sensible. But you’ve got an ax to grind with the new management no less than I did the old management. Hey, shoe’s on the other foot now for both of us, I guess. Let’s hope for a turnaround, and a huge upset against Steelers Sunday. All the best, Bob. Take care.
September 19th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
MR.
“Taking it to a personal level. Just like that. Notice in every comment I’ve directed toward you, I’ve stayed on the topic we’re discussing. Didn’t take you long, did it? Everyone can see who cast the first stone this time.”
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I didn’t know Al was considered personal for you, I was just messing around, you were being kind of reasonable…
September 19th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Good luck MR.
September 20th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Dummies:
Dummy up. When one takes control over the reins of a $750M entity, he/she better have expertise in running such companies and the field of business for which that company is engaged.
If not, the executive has committed unlawful acts if he/her actions return losses.
September 20th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Sullivan44, you are way off base and know little of what you speak. I think the Sacramento sun has gotten to you.
September 20th, 2012 at 12:28 am
What the “f” does Madden mean anymore?? He has been off the field for 30 yrs.
I don’t care if he signed off on Reggie or the Emperor of Mars, it means little to me.
Madden won’t get tangled up in this mess anyway; who would in his position??
Easier to roast a turkey for Thanksgiving.
September 20th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Best thing is fire the Davis’ as managers. Freakish spawn is a red haired circus clown. He and mom, have to go.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:05 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Raider Riff
Did you say that you looked at the game film and Seymour and Kelly are living up to their contracts?
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Yep. I watched specifically them on every play, 3 times. THE ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Com’on people now, gotta take one for the team. Cant be a fair weather fan all the time. Grass aint always greener on the other side of the hill. Cant always get the hoo hoo anytime you want it. Just take one for the team mayne.
Gotta eat a little crow if ya want to get to the big show. I been sayin for months, dont count your chickens before the eggs hatch. Nobody listened.
But hey now, I aint no fair weather fan. Just taken it with the team.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:21 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Just a few weeks ago most people here had high hopes for the season, most people expected this team to get better than last year’s, most people expected to be in the hunt for a playoff spot and maybe getin, some were expecting a Division Title.
Everyboy claimed the team had improved, Management was better, Coaching was better and players would play better under great new schemes.
I’m pretty sure Reggie and DA felt the same way.
Nobody expected this.
So spare me the “we are going to build from the ground up and this is going to take 2-3 years stuff” because just weeks ago you were expecting a serious playoff run from this very same team.
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Don’t speak for me Bob….
September 20th, 2012 at 1:22 am
This season: 0-16. Roth throws for 600 yards! in 3 quarters! Raiders run for 56 yards! Final score: 0-56. Rats abandon ship in droves!
September 20th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 19th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Just a few weeks ago most people here had high hopes for the season, most people expected this team to get better than last year’s, most people expected to be in the hunt for a playoff spot and maybe getin, some were expecting a Division Title.
Everyboy claimed the team had improved, Management was better, Coaching was better and players would play better under great new schemes.
I’m pretty sure Reggie and DA felt the same way.
Nobody expected this.
So spare me the “we are going to build from the ground up and this is going to take 2-3 years stuff” because just weeks ago you were expecting a serious playoff run from this very same team.
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None of us expected our O-Line to turn into a bunch of bums.
We finally crossed the tipping point with Coop. Wiz is playing more hurt than we probably realize. Breisel is HORRIBLE. Barnes is Barnes. Parsons is NOT Satele. Veldheer cant do it by himself.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Our goal is going to be to run the ball on people, and we’re going to do that. It hasn’t worked the first two games, but we’re not going to change anything we’re doing.”
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Huh?
September 20th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Nobody expected our DB situation?
I did….and pointed it out to all eyes here….and I did it on draft day…
Reggie knows he f’ed up….
He is on a short leash already….
This start and how it has gone down is the worst possible scenario possible….
The team is relatively healthy….with the exception of a complete new core of corners all courtesy of our GM, Reggie McKenzie….
Perhaps if he didn’t hire his own brother as a member of the personnel staff we would have instead hired someone who actually knew what the hell they were doing….
September 20th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Once again, the Raiders are urging fans to enter the stadium at home games to enter at least one hour before kick-off.
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Why? So they can sell more hot dogs?
September 20th, 2012 at 1:27 am
All you RAIDER EMPLOYEES who frequent this BLOG make me sick…
You all try to steer perception as a means of controlling the way opinions are viewed….
Continue to do as you please but realize that you are part of the problem….not part of the solution….and never will be..
September 20th, 2012 at 1:29 am
sirblitzalot Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:22 am
This season: 0-16. Roth throws for 600 yards! in 3 quarters! Raiders run for 56 yards! Final score: 0-56. Rats abandon ship in droves!
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Steelers game plan: Simple. The ol’ LBJ (Long Bomb, Jack)
September 20th, 2012 at 1:31 am
– The old regime informed free safety Michael Huff late last season that he was being converted to cornerback. That went out the window once coach Hue Jackson got fired shortly after the season ended.
Now, with both starting cornerbacks injured, Huff finds himself back in the mix at cornerback. He took some reps there in practice today.
Allen said Huff has what it takes to make the transition, whereas not all safeties do.
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Takin a page from Hue are we?
September 20th, 2012 at 1:32 am
We still really don’t have an answer to that,”
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OK
September 20th, 2012 at 1:33 am
There’s a rule of thumb on punt returns that, a returner lines up at his own 10-yard line on punts with a chance of reaching the end zone and lets go anything that is going over his head.
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Uh-huh. But we’ll field’em on the two and the seven. OK.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:35 am
That’s one of the things we’ve talked about. We’ve got to make good decisions and smart decisions. That will help us as far as the field position game goes.”
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Man, how elementry can you get.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:36 am
Reggie McKenzie was trained to fail….and the signing today is a perfect example of this FACT…
Signing a practice squad Packer? REALLY….
AL DAVIS is 100 times the GM Reggie McKenzie is or will ever be….
At least AL made an attempt to do everything in his power to give this team a shot….
At least he BELIEVED…
Our GM doesn’t even believe in this team….simply a YES man…standing beside his twin brother….collecting a large check….
“I’m just getting warmed up Reggie”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–ZsqJASP34&feature=related
LOL….I’m so dramatic….but seriously…Reggie….this is ALL on you my man!
Later’
September 20th, 2012 at 1:36 am
“He’s a good player. He can do whatever out there on the field.
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Damn, you just go girl!
September 20th, 2012 at 1:37 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:33 am
There’s a rule of thumb on punt returns that, a returner lines up at his own 10-yard line on punts with a chance of reaching the end zone and lets go anything that is going over his head.
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Uh-huh. But we’ll field’em on the two and the seven. OK.
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That’s on the player.
The fundamentals of put returning are the same from pop warner on up. If the guy gets in the game and starts doing stupid stuff, its not because he’s never heard the RULE of thumb from coaches before.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:39 am
– The Raiders aren’t the only team struggling with their rushing attack the first two games. The Steelers averaged only 2.6 yards rushing in games against the Denver Broncos and New York Jets.
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Doesn’t mean the game is going to be close. We ought to help Pittsburgh change that.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:39 am
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:36 am
Reggie McKenzie was trained to fail….and the signing today is a perfect example of this FACT…
Signing a practice squad Packer? REALLY….
AL DAVIS is 100 times the GM Reggie McKenzie is or will ever be….
At least AL made an attempt to do everything in his power to give this team a shot….
At least he BELIEVED…
Our GM doesn’t even believe in this team….simply a YES man…standing beside his twin brother….collecting a large check….
“I’m just getting warmed up Reggie”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–ZsqJASP34&feature=related
LOL….I’m so dramatic….but seriously…Reggie….this is ALL on you my man!
Later’
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where were you the last 25 years?
You know, when “Al the great GM” traded away Gruden or signed big name free agents on D and then made them play in our horrible defensive scheme.
Revisionist history at its best.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:41 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:37 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:33 am
There’s a rule of thumb on punt returns that, a returner lines up at his own 10-yard line on punts with a chance of reaching the end zone and lets go anything that is going over his head.
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Uh-huh. But we’ll field’em on the two and the seven. OK.
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That’s on the player.
The fundamentals of put returning are the same from pop warner on up. If the guy gets in the game and starts doing stupid stuff, its not because he’s never heard the RULE of thumb from coaches before.
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Maybe. I’ve seen coaches coach the stupid out of players before. We just happen to be a magnet for stupid players.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:45 am
– Through it all, the Raiders remain steadfast in their belief that it’s only a matter of time before things click in the run game.
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And just how long is ‘a matter of time’?
September 20th, 2012 at 1:46 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:41 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:37 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:33 am
There’s a rule of thumb on punt returns that, a returner lines up at his own 10-yard line on punts with a chance of reaching the end zone and lets go anything that is going over his head.
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Uh-huh. But we’ll field’em on the two and the seven. OK.
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That’s on the player.
The fundamentals of put returning are the same from pop warner on up. If the guy gets in the game and starts doing stupid stuff, its not because he’s never heard the RULE of thumb from coaches before.
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Maybe. I’ve seen coaches coach the stupid out of players before. We just happen to be a magnet for stupid players.
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Ive never seen the stupid being coached out of anyone. Poor judgment is a character flaw that is pretty much non-reversible.
Sometimes I think our guys just get caught up in trying too hard instead of just doing their dang jobs.
Other teas dont put up with the repeat offender routine. But ours has always had a way of saying “yeah but he can run a 4.2″. SMH.
If you are wondering why DA has a deer in the headlights look on his face by the third quater of both games, its because he’s bewildered at the amount of BS one team can produce in such a short time.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:45 am
– Through it all, the Raiders remain steadfast in their belief that it’s only a matter of time before things click in the run game.
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And just how long is ‘a matter of time’?
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I dunno. I was of the belief that our pass game needed to get more consistent and force the D to take the LBs back a notch but after watching the film more closely, its not just what the D is doing. Our guys just got old and weak in a hurry.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:49 am
If you are wondering why DA has a deer in the headlights look on his face by the third quater of both games, its because he’s bewildered at the amount of BS one team can produce in such a short time.
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Seen that same look on just about every coach since Gruden.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:50 am
Our running game will click when we have a legit #2 back, a 1-2 punch that we had til someone let Bush slip out the door.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:51 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:50 am
Our running game will click when we have a legit #2 back, a 1-2 punch that we had til someone let Bush slip out the door.
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Nah. That ain the issue.
And we didnt let Bush slip. He ran out. He didnt want to be here. Lets be honest.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:49 am
If you are wondering why DA has a deer in the headlights look on his face by the third quater of both games, its because he’s bewildered at the amount of BS one team can produce in such a short time.
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Seen that same look on just about every coach since Gruden.
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Heck, we even saw it on Gruden’s face early on. The difference being, he would spontaneously combust on the sidelines and rip into a player, calling into question the players very manhood.
And us fans didnt boo our coaches or blame the system. We rallied behind Gruden and empowered him. I remember being at games when he was going nuts on the sidelines and the crowd just loved it. There was nowhere for the player to turn to or hide for support. He was faced to either get in line or GTFO.
The DA needs to start cracking that lions whip.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:54 am
Tomlin said he isn’t in position to pass judgment on why the Raiders have struggled so much in the run game. The Raiders averaged 2.0 yards a carry their first two games.
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But he’ll game plan with that in mind.
September 20th, 2012 at 1:58 am
The DA needs to start cracking that lions whip.
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If he knows what a lions whip is.
One thing I liked about JG was he liked the spotlight, so it was crucial to his ego that the Raiders won games, or at least were’nt getting blown out. DA just doesn’t seem all that comfortable yet with the cameras, or he’s just bland in his responses.
September 20th, 2012 at 2:00 am
McFadden said “it’s a shock to me”
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It’s a shock to us to. Yes sir, that ZBS/WCO crap is a shock to us too.
September 20th, 2012 at 2:01 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:54 am
Tomlin said he isn’t in position to pass judgment on why the Raiders have struggled so much in the run game. The Raiders averaged 2.0 yards a carry their first two games.
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But he’ll game plan with that in mind.
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Exactly. Tomlin knows damn well what our issues are. He’s watched both of our games probably twice as many times as me, he has a staff pouring over the tapes as well.
It would be in bad taste for him to talk about our issues in the media like that.
September 20th, 2012 at 2:03 am
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 1:58 am
The DA needs to start cracking that lions whip.
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If he knows what a lions whip is.
One thing I liked about JG was he liked the spotlight, so it was crucial to his ego that the Raiders won games, or at least were’nt getting blown out. DA just doesn’t seem all that comfortable yet with the cameras, or he’s just bland in his responses.
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Everyone has to do them. Ya gotta do what youre comfortable with. I just wish he was more comfortable letting it rip. We know he does it in practice. But its different in a game when the crowd can get behind you and really help drive the point home.
September 20th, 2012 at 2:29 am
What is the record for most posts by a member here in a row?
September 20th, 2012 at 2:30 am
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September 20th, 2012 at 2:47 am
This is number 18…. I dunno what happened to the last 5
September 20th, 2012 at 2:48 am
This is number 20.
I did 19 but it said duplicate comment. Am I close to the record yet?
September 20th, 2012 at 2:50 am
And this makes Blackjack
September 20th, 2012 at 2:51 am
Taiwan Jones
September 20th, 2012 at 2:51 am
Julio “17 yard cushion” Hanson
September 20th, 2012 at 2:51 am
Michael “Busted Rim” Huffy
September 20th, 2012 at 2:52 am
Pat Lee
September 20th, 2012 at 2:53 am
Hmmmmm……
September 20th, 2012 at 2:56 am
This thing wont post my posts. Im at Branch now.
September 20th, 2012 at 2:57 am
And NeilB ends the streak at 33
September 20th, 2012 at 2:57 am
I read somewhere that the old record was 17. Not sure if that was true or not.
September 20th, 2012 at 2:58 am
Sorry ’bout that.You can start again if you want.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:00 am
I just wanted to have a quick check of the updates.
All yours…
September 20th, 2012 at 3:01 am
Neilb Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 2:58 am
Sorry ’bout that.You can start again if you want.
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No way. Its all good.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:03 am
Wanna talk football?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:06 am
Wassup RRS!
Part of the PM crowd nowadays, eh?
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Hey Jhill!
naw. i’m more of the early AM crew
i’m just turning on the lights for you fellas
I do have an occasional PM post here & there
September 20th, 2012 at 4:08 am
Check this out:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–nfl-power-rankings–life-without-hue-jackson-not-working-so-well-for-raider-nation.html
we are DEAD LAST in the power rankings!!
September 20th, 2012 at 4:22 am
Michael Silver has about as little journalistic credibility as there is.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:08 am
we are DEAD LAST in the power rankings!!
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That is lies. We could beat Browns, Colts, and Titans.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 am
Mike Tomlin is bragging on vandyke but Reggie cut him for two jokes.I know some of it is on special teams but are special teams suck too.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Got a bad feeling ’bout the Steelers game.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Where MM34? Haven’t heard his name yet.If Huff’s at corner does Branch go to free and MM34 come in at strong?
September 20th, 2012 at 5:23 am
We could not beat the Sister’s of the Holy Covenent. We would be favored by 3 but get blown out in the 4th quarter.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:24 am
We are going to win this weekend.
If not, I will post under the handle “I was wrong” until we win a game.
Print that!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:24 am
Neilb Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Got a bad feeling ’bout the Steelers game.
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I think Raiders will give good effort. But how they going to stop Big Ben with those corners?
Steelers 35
Raiders 24
September 20th, 2012 at 5:25 am
Klas thinks Steeler game will be a lot like season ending Charger game last year.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:27 am
That’s what I’m thinking Klas.The safetys try to help the corners and they’ll run on us all day.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Steelers -4 1/2 is easy money.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Morning…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:37 am
The rule in Vegas has always been HOME DOGS COVER.
Home teams win 55% of the games, and you are going to give them points on top of those odds?
Easy money, Raiders win.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:37 am
The rule in Vegas has always been HOME DOGS COVER.
Home teams win 55% of the games, and you are going to give them points on top of those odds?
Easy money, Raiders win.
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If it’s Raiders, yes.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:46 am
And to answer a question from last night, Wiz has not played much Center in his life.
Of his 4 years at PSU, he played C just his junior season (11 games) and struggled mightily in their bowl game with him at Center. His senior year, even though Center is more important and makes waaaaay more money in the NFL, he switched back to Guard.
Last year he played mostly guard as well, I have him by my counts as having only 16 starts at center for his career, in both college and pro’s.
He has the potential to be a Pro Bowl guard, don’t think the same is true at Center.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:53 am
As scary as the Pat Lee-Joselio Hanson vs Mike Wallace-Antonio Brown match-up seems, I do think we can take Pitt on sunday, it’s gonna take much more than we have shown but they are having trouble running the ball and protecting Ben, so there’s a window for the front 7 to take over this game on D provided Ben makes a couple of mistakes and we can keep it close into the 4th quarter.
As far as the Offense, maybe this is the game where we start employing a no-huddle attack to keep Pitt from substituting and eventyally wear their veteran Defense down a little, just like Manning did on week 1.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Pitt’s back end of their secondary are big hitters, but also big-play vulnerable.
Troy P being a dog in coverage is one of the worst kept secrets in the NFL.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:24 am
Neilb Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Got a bad feeling ’bout the Steelers game.
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I think Raiders will give good effort. But how they going to stop Big Ben with those corners?
Steelers 35
Raiders 24
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As it sits you are giving the Raiders too many points right now.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I th ink I am more excited about flying back home next week then about this game! But…we’ll be there! 8AM!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:53 am
As scary as the Pat Lee-Joselio Hanson vs Mike Wallace-Antonio Brown match-up seems, I do think we can take Pitt on sunday, it’s gonna take much more than we have shown but they are having trouble running the ball and protecting Ben, so there’s a window for the front 7 to take over this game on D provided Ben makes a couple of mistakes and we can keep it close into the 4th quarter.
As far as the Offense, maybe this is the game where we start employing a no-huddle attack to keep Pitt from substituting and eventyally wear their veteran Defense down a little, just like Manning did on week 1.
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Big Ben is the most dangerous when he’s chased out of the pocket.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Mornin’ Nation.
So last night I broke down and ponied up 70 bucks for the NFL Game Rewind that gives access to the coaches film. Watched the entire Miami game that way.
You want to know a HUGE problem with our run game? Owen Schmitt. The guy cannot run block for sch!t. M
One play in particular illustrates it…it was a run between RT and RG. Barnes & Brisiel open up a nice hole. Koa Misi of the Dolphins steps up into the lane. A decent run block from Schmitt is the only thing standing between DMac and a whole lotta green field. Scmitt runs right into Misi…and literally, I’m not exaggerating here, rebounds from him like Misi is made of concrete and falls right on his azz. Misi makes the tackle, another 3 yard gain.
This team needs a real fullback right now.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:02 am
478.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Pitt’s back end of their secondary are big hitters, but also big-play vulnerable.
Troy P being a dog in coverage is one of the worst kept secrets in the NFL.
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Some of the Pitt fans I know who aren’t total blind homers (very few) have quietly admitted to me they wouldn’t be upset if Polamalu gets the axe next year because his cap number rises to 10 million and they think the money might be better spent elsewhere
September 20th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Some more thoughts from watching the coaches tape:
-JFB will say “no surprise” but Cooper Carlisle is not a problem, guys. He’s not excellent in pass protection, I will say, but he’s still pretty good at run blocking.
-LaMarr Woodley is gonna have a BIG day on Sunday. Willie Smith is an ATROCIOUS pass blocker. The ‘Phins moved Cameron Wake over to left end and he was absolutely eating Smith for breakfast, lunch, dinner and his midnight snack on pass rushes. The downgrade from Barnes was massive.
-Other than our secondary, the biggest weakness on this defense right now is Rolando McClain. When people talk about him shooting the wrong gaps, they’re not kidding. In fact, it’s worse: there was one play that Bush was coming up the middle. He had a nice hole, but no fullback. Easy stuff for a competent MLB. As the hole opens, McClain charges…and somehow MISSES THE GAP entirely. Seriously, he runs right into the DT’s azz. It looked like he was trying to buttfck him. It was pathetic.
-Michael Huff is a joke and cannot be on this team next year. He can’t tackle and can’t cover. I’m not sure Huff at CB on Sunday would be any worse than sticking Brandian Ross out there and telling him “Good luck”
-Darren McFadden is the only RB who can pass block on this team. Goodson is going to get Palmer killed at some point.
-Those who are saying Wiz is not a good center are right. Move him back to guard immediately. Put Carlisle at RG. That would help a ton.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Working all this weekend again so I’ll miss the Raiders game and Man utd/Liverpool.
Sucks.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=491c5141-4812-4d6f-a78c-3f1379d51b8e&from=en-us_msnhp
funny
September 20th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Kind of makes you wonder, PA. How in the world do they stimulate that vaunted D in practice!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:16 am
This will be unpopular with many, but: having watched the tape, I can say that a lot of what Raider Riff says is true. It’s not solely the ZBS that’s the problem…it’s the complete ineffectiveness of Owen Schmitt at fullback, the remarkable ability of Mike Brisiel to get pushed backward 60 or 70% of the time and the inability of Wiz 2.0 to sustain his run blocks.
Executed right, this can still be a good offense.
But unless that gets fixed…not to mention the pass blocking issues which everyone other than Veldheer (and to be fair, Wiz appears to be a decent pass protector) has…it’s gonna be a long azz year.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Funny, another person watches the tapeand sees exactlywhat i beentalking about.
Oh and PA, I remember exactly what play Schmidt got blown up on. Nice call.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:17 am
A power run no less.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:17 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1337979-nfl-coaches-on-the-hot-seat-for-week-3?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=oakland-raiders
Another funny.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Mike Tomlin on DeMarcus Van Dyke:
“We were interested in this young man when he came out in the draft in 2011″ said Tomlin.
“Obviously, we ended up with Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen, but he was within that group and in that range from a grading standpoint.”
(Raiders took DVD with the 81st pick, Pitt took Brown at 98th and Allen at 128).
“I was at his pro day. He’s got big-time upside, he’s an extremely fast guy. It was an opportunity for us to put a young cornerback in the mix and continue to work with him and develop his skill and see if maybe he can help us at some point.”
“He has done a nice job for us, man,” Tomlin said.
“He’s added some quality plays for us, just in two ballgames. He downed a punt in Denver on the 1-yard line.
He prevented a ball from getting downed at the 1-yard line for us last week (vs Jets)…he blew up a punt return and that created a turnover.
He’s really just beginning the process of acclimating himself to the defense and hopefully he can be an asset there as well.”
Tomlin said “we don’t care what happened with (Van Dyke)” in Oakland. “He has done a nice job working, and is diligent and detailed.”
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- Didn’t people say DVD would be out of the League? he was just a fast kid with no football skills or toughness right?.
- DVD is a starting Gunner on Special Teams for the Steelers, one of the toughest, most physical teams in the NFL and he’s making plays for them.
- Pitt was interested in him during the 2011 Draft, so it now appears he was not such a huge reach after all, they graded him as a 3rd-4th round prospect and they know what they’re doing when it come to the Draft.
Pitt saw his potential and decided to develop him, too bad we gave up on the kid after his rookie year.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:17 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1337979-nfl-coaches-on-the-hot-seat-for-week-3?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=oakland-raiders
Another funny.
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Keep watching it doesn’t get any better.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:21 am
489.Raider Riff Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Funny, another person watches the tapeand sees exactlywhat i beentalking about.
Oh and PA, I remember exactly what play Schmidt got blown up on. Nice call.
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The game really opens up for you when you can slow a play down and watch it from multiple angles over and over again. No tool like the end zone camera to see what’s going on.
I had thought Schmitt was the hammerhead FB this team needed. I was wrong. He’s toast.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Raiderbuck ref486
Very funny.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I actually got even more pizzed off watching the game again on the coaches than I was when I was half-drunk and watching it live.
There were 50,000 (give or take
) opportunites for the Raiders to take control of that game and they blew every single one.
Everything went wrong on 3rd down. Palmer would inevitably sail a nice completion. On defense, someone would miss a tackle.
Hell, I’ll go so far to say that this can still be a decent team if they can do nothing except convert on 3rd down more.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=491c5141-4812-4d6f-a78c-3f1379d51b8e&from=en-us_msnhp
funny
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Could easily substitute Raiders in this broadcast.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:30 am
The Raiders and Titans have had a very similar start so far.
Both teams best player is their RB, and they’re both stuck in the mud. Each team has been beaten ugly at home and on the road. Both are at home this week and are getting 4 points. The gambler in me sees one of these winning outright, or at least covering.
Which one will it be?
I doubt I’ll bet on either but it’ll be intereeting to see the outcome and which RB can step up their game and make something happen.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:31 am
For tth
September 20th, 2012 at 6:33 am
For tthose of you saying Reggie screwed up with DVD….
The knock on DVD wasn’t talent. It was maturity. Getting cut has a way of waking some guys up. Cause he wasn’t going to wake up here.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Interesting read on Russell Wilson. Kind of interesting to see how he turns out!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread-russell-wilson/seattle-seahawks-qb-russell-wilson-measured-more-just-height
September 20th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Things to do…
Have a great weekend everyone.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Raider Riff Says:
For tthose of you saying Reggie screwed up with DVD….
The knock on DVD wasn’t talent. It was maturity. Getting cut has a way of waking some guys up. Cause he wasn’t going to wake up here.
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DVD was entering his 2nd season, maybe he was not Champ Bailey mature, but there wasn’t a single report about him having character issues or lacking “coachability”, those are asumptions being made here.
Now a huge part of Coaching is motivating and developing young, talented kids and turning them into solid football players, right?.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1337720-bleacher-reports-expert-consensus-week-3-nfl-picks/page/15
If they are wondering why we are piss’ed it’s because everyone, and I mean everyone, is hating on the Raiders. This kind of crap is taking all the fun out of football again.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I’ve seen coaches coach the stupid out of players before
Ive never seen the stupid being coached out of anyone
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LMFAO!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:50 am
If it’s Raiders, yes.
476.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:46 am
And to answer a question from last night, Wiz has not played much Center in his life.
Of his 4 years at PSU, he played C just his junior season (11 games) and struggled mightily in their bowl game with him at Center. His senior year, even though Center is more important and makes waaaaay more money in the NFL, he switched back to Guard.
Last year he played mostly guard as well, I have him by my counts as having only 16 starts at center for his career, in both college and pro’s.
He has the potential to be a Pro Bowl guard, don’t think the same is true at Center.
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My man!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Bob, a coaches job is not to motivate. That is what a paycheck does.
If the reports of DVD not being coachable are false,, OK. I thought it was quoted somewhere that they were “tired of babysitting “. Did DA or Reggie not say that?
September 20th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Raider Riff Says:
Bob, a coaches job is not to motivate. That is what a paycheck does.
If the reports of DVD not being coachable are false,, OK. I thought it was quoted somewhere that they were “tired of babysitting “. Did DA or Reggie not say that?.
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Riff.
You know some of the best coaches in any sport are known for their motivational skills as well as their x’s and o’s, but scrap motivation, DVD didn’t seem to need it, reports said he was working hard and trying to get better.
As far as the babysitting quote, I honestly don’t know if somebody said it.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:58 am
This will be unpopular with many, but: having watched the tape, I can say that a lot of what Raider Riff says is true
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Not unpopular at all.
There are just as many of us here who hold the whole team accountable, not just the OC.
But Knapp does have to answer for the lack of creativity, imo.
Reece has been around long enough to be a focus in the gameplan. Maybe not so if you are forcing him to do what you want him to do instead of what he does best. How hard is it to put Reece in the passing game and get him matched up with a LB or S? WHy is Ausberry not being used like Gronkowski is?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 am
But Knapp does have to answer for the lack of creativity, imo.
Reece has been around long enough to be a focus in the gameplan. Maybe not so if you are forcing him to do what you want him to do instead of what he does best. How hard is it to put Reece in the passing game and get him matched up with a LB or S? WHy is Ausberry not being used like Gronkowski is?
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That’s my main beef with Knapp right now.
Too much short junk in the passing game…although Palmer’s been forced to go hot/check it down more than once because of crap pass protection.
Reece and Ausberry need to be used more.
And enough of the stretch runs. I realize that’s a big component of the ZBS & Knapp’s system but they’re flat out not working. With better blocking, there is room for McFadden in between the tackles, but defenses are stringing out those stretch runs every single time.
So basically, as you say, adaptability and creativity are Knapp’s biggest flaws right now. He needs to adjust.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 am
UPON FURTHER REVIEW! Rewatched game, first half was pretty descent! Even Knapp! Plays ent for more than 2yds- except for McFadden! I see where Mcfaddens cuts are supposed to be, its two steps with the line and Cut back the opposite! This will give him the open field and its on like Donkey Kong!! When he figures this out he will be unstoppable! Patience Nation!! It will get better!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 am
I like Ausburry, and hoped he’d be the guy to come in and claim the TE position. The play where he caught the ball that tossed the LB on the ground with one arm, then ran and tried little shake and bake…… That’s what I’m talkin about.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:02 am
WHy is Ausberry not being used like Gronkowski is?
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Big play in the game was when the line caved in on Palmer and he threw his last mintue dumpoff a smidge too high and Aus couldn’t haul it in.
Aus catches it and breaks a tackle, something he seems pretty capapble of doing, it would have been a nice chunk play and pick up a much needed first down.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:03 am
What about Ausberry pimp slappin that Dolphin to the turf!!! More Ausberry please!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:03 am
- Didn’t people say DVD would be out of the League? he was just a fast kid with no football skills or toughness right?.
- DVD is a starting Gunner on Special Teams for the Steelers, one of the toughest, most physical teams in the NFL and he’s making plays for them.
- Pitt was interested in him during the 2011 Draft, so it now appears he was not such a huge reach after all, they graded him as a 3rd-4th round prospect and they know what they’re doing when it come to the Draft.
Pitt saw his potential and decided to develop him, too bad we gave up on the kid after his rookie year.
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SMH
We will get past it though.
Brain farts aside, Adams looked like the best PR we’ve had here in a while.
Bartell and Spencer going down are the only things “highlighting” this mistake by Reggie. DVD didn’t do himself any favors with his lack of physicality though.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Quickly going through the San Diego game right now (slooooowwwwwwww day at work)
So many times McFadden has been 1 block away from being sprung. And Schmitt whiffs or an O-lineman doesn’t sustain his block and it gets shut down.
Starting to realize too, outside of DHB, our WRs cannot block for sch!t. It’s really bad out there and I think it’s an underrated problem.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:10 am
More Ausberry, more Reece, better fullback = MUCH better offense.
And I know Palmer’s not been the main issue, but the fact is he sailed more than a few throws in the Dolphins game that would’ve sustained drives. He has to be better too.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Can’t go along with the idea that McFadden is the problem. They say poor leadership is better than none but you still got to believe in it. The offence that Knapp has (re)installed doesn’t suit DMC. We saw that before. More importantly he doesn’t believe in it, the O line don’t either. Somebody said earlier that MCFadden hasn’t broken any tackles-He knows he’s gonna get hit, he knows the holes aren’t there, never will be with this scheme. I’m not into changeing coaches mid-stream again. I’d rather ride this out and see where we are at the end of the season.
No one said that this would be easy…
September 20th, 2012 at 7:11 am
I’m sure DA’s just as frustrated because he knows what his team is CAPABLE of, if only they executed better. It’s one thing to lose to a superior team, something else entirely when you beat YOURSELF with mistakes and poor execution…..That’ll make a person insane.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:12 am
I actually feel better about this team after breaking down the film. They’re not hopeless…they’re better execution and more creativity away from having a pretty good offense.
I still think the Steelers win because of the fact that our secondary is busted up and awful and that Willie Smith might be more effectively replaced by an orange road cone with a sign sticking out that says “Please do not sack our QB”
September 20th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Few words on defense:
-This group STILL bites CONSTANTLY and hard on misdirection plays. If I were an OC gameplanning against them, I might not run anything else for the first half because I bet it’d take them that long to catch on.
-McClain is awful. Sorry, but he is. If he doesn’t get better this season, Reggie will cut bait on him, I can promise you that. A real MLB would do wonders.
-Richard Seymour…not the problem, but still should go at the end of the season. Why? Well money aside, he’s clearly lost a step and that step is what’s keeping him from being super effective. He’s still pushing the pocket and disrupting the QB, but now because of that lost step, he just can’t get there in time anymore.
That bum knee + a decade of wear and tear have limited his mobility & speed just enough that he’s not the player he once was and won’t be again.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Troy P being a dog in coverage is one of the worst kept secrets in the NFL.
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I was wrong aka Vegas/ JFB/ Chico,
It’s not a secret. He gets TOs, tackles well, makes plays when you need them, but he doesn’t cover well so people don’t complain because he does everything else at a high level.
Branch is a good tackler, he doesn’t make big plays, and he doesn’t get TOs, so people are not willing to tolerate his bad coverage skills.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Not saying McFadden is the problem, if he figures out the system!! HE’S GONE!! Period
September 20th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Branch is a good tackler, he doesn’t make big plays, and he doesn’t get TOs, so people are not willing to tolerate his bad coverage skills.
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You can add grossly overpaid to his list of adjectives
September 20th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Yeah PA, I think there’s gonna be some big changes coming. This year -though they are still trying to win and get to the playoffs- almost feels like a 16 game preseason in a way. Every player is getting evaluated and under heavy scrutiny. Everyone is auditioning for next years team, and nobody will be “Safe” contract wise or not. I believe they are gearing up for a massive overhaul if necessary. No holds barred.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=491c5141-4812-4d6f-a78c-3f1379d51b8e&from=en-us_msnhp
funny
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That is good. Anyone like this guy in Oakland media? U could sub everything the guy said about KC and say Raiders.
How long are u guys gonna just sit back out there and take this crap? Seriously.
Raider fans in the bay show their displeasure by disinterest…won’t show up at games which is probably THE most effective way i guess.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I agree! After the review! We were up 10-7 at the half!! After that could have been tired from short week,long flight, black unifrms in Miami heat! There is some mistakes no doubt! But looking more like growing pains more than anything!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am
You can blame anyone you want, but don’t ignore facts and history.
-History: Knapp’s offense was ranked in 20’s in scoring The last 4 years of his career with 4 different teams, and he was a QB coach the last 2 years.
-Facts: we have the same players/ better players on offense this year than the previous 2, but we are scoring less points. We managed 22.4 points without DMAC and a retired CP last year. We are averaging 13.5 points with a healthy DMAC and CP who had time to adjust and get in football shape.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Silver,
Did you get that NFL Rewind?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I love how the KC guy in that rant said “We’re sick of hearing it’s a process…we just didn’t get it done….WIN GAMES that’s what u can do…WIN GAMES!”
September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
-McClain is awful. Sorry, but he is. If he doesn’t get better this season, Reggie will cut bait on him, I can promise you that. A real MLB would do wonders.
Any half decent MLB would do. It’s the key to stopping the run. Big push from your D-line and the MLB fills the gap where the runner is/going to be. Couldn’t believe the yards Bush got on Sunday. He’s no more than a kick returner and we made hm look great.
I’m always the optimist. I was patiient with DHB, McFadden, even HUff ffs, but I’ve had enough of waiting on McClain.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am
McFadden got a little weired after being poked in the eye!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I think it was said in here months ago…the team that we all know, we won’t know soon.
And someone mentioned it somewhere else as well…Look at the A’s. A cast of nobody’s! They are contending for a playoff spot! Whether they make it or not is not the story. The story is that everyone wrote them off this year and righftfully so. But look…I believe The Raiders are heading that way! Can tehy catch some of that Oakland magic?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Our rund D was DOMINANT for the first 6 qtrs this year.
How do you have a DOMINANT run defense with a bum MLB????
Played the 2nd half with a concussion????
September 20th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Management felt this team was good enough to make a playoff run, even if some people here disagree.
If they didn’t they would not have payed Seymour his 7.5 million bonus and extended his contract, they would have released him and eaten the other 7.5.
They would not have franchised Branch either and tied up 6.2 million during during the free-agency period by doing so, they could have allowed him to hit the market.
They would not have spent 6 million (2012 money) combined on Brisiel and Barnes either.
They would not have spent another 5 million (2012 money) combined on Bartell, Spencer and Tolleffson either.
So I’m not buying the throw away year theory.
Reggie and DA clearly felt they could put this team in the playoffs or at least make a good run for it, I’m not settling for any less.
People bailing out on the season already because “we’re looking into a 3 year rebuilding period” are mistaken.
The season is far from over, beat Pitt and with some luck Atlanta beats SD and we’re 1 game back of the Division lead with another game vs SD later on and destiny in our own hands.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:30 am
J Hill…what was scary was that he didn’t know!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:32 am
maybe he fired a gun close to his head.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Carson Palmer has played Pitt a bunch of times, and had some bit of success back in his hayday.
Season high point total this week.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Carson Palmer has played Pitt a bunch of times, and had some bit of success back in his hayday.
Season high point total this week.
Yup and in 2006, he was on his way to beating them 3 times! Granted, I know, this is 6 years later but…
September 20th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Later.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:36 am
529.J Hill Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Silver,
Did you get that NFL Rewind?
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I did. Wife gave it to me as a gift actually so I should’ve said she ponied up the money.
It’s awesome.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:38 am
525.theghostronin79 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Yeah PA, I think there’s gonna be some big changes coming. This year -though they are still trying to win and get to the playoffs- almost feels like a 16 game preseason in a way. Every player is getting evaluated and under heavy scrutiny. Everyone is auditioning for next years team, and nobody will be “Safe” contract wise or not. I believe they are gearing up for a massive overhaul if necessary. No holds barred.
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That’s an EXCELLENT way to put it, ghostronin.
If they don’t step up their performances, Huff, McClain, Brisiel are all gone in the offseason. Seymour might be worth keeping if he takes a massive paycut, but if that knee keeps deteriorating, he might simply opt to retire.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:39 am
J Hill Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Our rund D was DOMINANT for the first 6 qtrs this year.
How do you have a DOMINANT run defense with a bum MLB????
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Wheeler and Branch have been there to clean up more than one of McClain’s messes.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Wiz at LG and Carlisle at RG would do so much to help this line.
Not signing Dan Koppen was a big missed opportunity by Reggie, I really believe.
Parsons isn’t great, but he’s not much worse than Wiz at C so that putting him there would at least hold serve at that position and let him play his more natural LG.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:44 am
DA beat the Steelers with Defense and a little Tebow!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Slowlando McLazy can eat sheeeeet
September 20th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Dakota Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Slowlando McLazy can eat sheeeeet
Who knows, he probably did and it had mushrooms in it!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I remember a great many of u saying wiz.2 should be playing center. An I ranted on an on about how they should leave him at the G position. But most thought he would be a good center. Sateele was a reliable center an we should have kept him. He was good for ZBS as well. Also Carlisle. There was cohesion on the oline. Should have left the thing the phuck alone IMO
September 20th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Raiders may surprise this week! A little confidence and away we go!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 am
White Devil,
You have an agenda?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I always have an agenda….but it is a just and right agenda.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Matter of fact the whole offense period. Should not have been tinkered with.
I’m starting to think hue deserved one mo yr. At least. Phuck with the defense an go from there. This my guy BS has been overrated.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Shaunnessy played well! Wonder why lookin at Andre Carter again! Saw Shannessy and Toefson in on a couple of plays!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am
DHB caught some balls the first half, looked good!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am
If the Raiders can muster up a 7-9 – 9-7 season & pick in the middle of the first round, Barrett Jones out of Alabama would be a HELL of a good pick.
He can play center, guard & tackle. Stick him at C, Wiz at LG and you can forget about the left side of the line for 10 years. As good as any in the game.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Switch Huff to cornerback.
Go back to power blocking on offense.
Fire Knapp.
Next.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Ausberry BEAST!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Let’s go get a W this week. An Monday ill still feel the same. Until we string a few together ill be
Still of the mind state that they souls have left well enough alone.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Seymour! DONE!!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:56 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Raiders beat Steelers and wont even be talked about!!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I watch a Football Life on Ray Lewis last night and just wonder why the Raiders don’t have a guy on their roster with that kind of passion for the game. Ray Lewis raises the level of his teamates with the fire that he displays on and off the field. He was naming the teams on their schedule for this season including the Raiders and he basically counting the wins already. Dennis Allen need to show that to this Raider team and if they don’t play with fire after being being punked on TV then they just in it for the money only. If I was a professional football player, I would take that personal.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:00 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:56 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
Morning Mike!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Saw many people buying for this game when i got my tickets for the opener!! Should be a full house!! Maybe alot of Steeler fans though
September 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Good morning ODB.
Long Live The ODB!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
O, Hwnrdr !!
good morning sirs !!
wont be around for a week or so.
its vacation time in 4 hours !!!!
lol look out North Carolina.. here comes
the redneck ODB and his crew of misfits !!!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:07 am
562,
They don’t care.
I think this team has already checked out as evidenced by the 2nd half at Miami.
I’m sorry…they were “tired”.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:11 am
If I was a professional football player, I would take that personal.
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If I was a professional football player, I would take losing personal.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Good people of NC,
Hide your elderly toothless women. The ODB is coming.
Enjoy your vacation sir.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:18 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
O, Hwnrdr !!
good morning sirs !!
wont be around for a week or so.
its vacation time in 4 hours !!!!
lol look out North Carolina.. here comes
the redneck ODB and his crew of misfits !!!
Enjoy your vacation, bro!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Raider O Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Good people of NC,
Hide your elderly toothless women. The ODB is coming.
Enjoy your vacation sir.
LOL
September 20th, 2012 at 8:18 am
I don’t understand how some players can laugh and party after losing. I hate losing. These guys have no pride.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:25 am
What up NATION?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:26 am
The Oakland Raiders will defeat the steelers this sunday.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:27 am
1 NATION
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 am
What’s up Thec? Will you join the tailgating festivities this Sunday?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Strike 2 on Carter?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am
I did. Wife gave it to me as a gift actually so I should’ve said she ponied up the money. It’s awesome.
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Cool!
I’ll take your analysis as truth since you’re looking at coaches film.
55 played a nice first 6 qtrs though. I think there is some bias there, lol.
I’m out folks. Time to check the traps.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:40 am
The KC radio host with a classic rant. Sick of “being crapped on”.
One thing he said in all that..that the Raider fans can rightfully say…”We deserve better”.
Difference is KC was picked to go to the SB by a few “experts”…One of which was Hub Arkush of PFW…he’s an idiot but nonetheless.
KC had very high expectations for the season but they have sucked thus far. Difference is they got hammered by a very good Atl. team and a Bills team that many have picked to get into the playoffs.
Raiders lost to a possibly decent SD team and hammered by a Miami team that was considered even worse than us…
At least in KC there is a level of hope…Our hope is “in 2-5 yrs. we MAY be good”.
Wonderful.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Thec Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:26 am
The Oakland Raiders will defeat the steelers this sunday.
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I’ll take some of what you’re serving.
Good morning, folks.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Where’s the Great Gradkowski when you need him? We need a spark.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
If you look at some of the moves Reggie has made it doesn’t look good.
-DVD. Look what Tomlin says about him and how he’s doing at Pitt. Reggie just let’s him go and then is left with bringing in practice squad players in an emergency panic.
-Louis Murphy. I didn’t think we needed him either. It turns out we probably did.
-Mike Brisiel. By all accounts a horrible move and a big contract to boot.
..those don’t appear to be good GM moves.
I think the draft was decent though with what he had to work with…Burris might be something good and I think Criner was good as well.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 am
What traps is JHill checking?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 am
So we are offcially the WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL according to the experts. How do we dispute that with what we’ve seen on the field so far?
HUGE DROP from being a defensive stop away from winning division to being deemed WORST IN THE NFL.
I really do wish they’d stop with this “New Era of Excellence’ crap. It just looks foolish…and it becomes a punchline.
How about “Hey, we’re trying….sort of” as the motto?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Mike Brisiel was not, is not a horrible move and his contract is far from big.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Re: DVD
A) don’t think anyone expected both starti g corners to get hurt.
B) he showed up horribly in game situations. I need more than coach speak to convince me. Let’s see him play some corner in a real game. If he plays well, then we can label it a mistake.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
How about “Hey, we’re trying….sort of” as the motto?
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Lol, DJ. Come down off that ledge, bro.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Reggie is making decisions that look like he spent his NFL career on the field tackling with his head…
Hiring a rookie HC with only 1 year of work as a DC and giving him the reigns to the team was questionavble at best, now the kid is spewing cliches and looks over matched on Sundays…Add in the questionable personnel decisions and it’s not an impressive start,
September 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Everyone is going nuts because Mike Tomlin has been singing DVD’s praises days before they play the team that cut him…What else is he gonna say?? LOL..
You guys are too easy.
You all just got trolled by Mike Tomlin.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Hiring a rookie HC with only 1 year of work as a DC and giving him the reigns to the team was questionavble at best, now the kid is spewing cliches and looks over matched on Sundays…Add in the questionable personnel decisions and it’s not an impressive start,
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Hmm…sounds familiar.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:59 am
DAV…they added DVD to the 53′ he’s actually playing mon Sundays.
That’s far rom coach speak…
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am
When Mark Davis made his first major move as the Raiders’ owner last January, hiring Reggie McKenzie as the team’s general manager and firing coach Hue Jackson after a solitary, 8-8 season, some of us blasted the decision like Jack Tatum lighting up a defenseless receiver back in the day.
It’s been a rotten start to Dennis Allen’s tenure with the Raiders. (AP)
In my column likening the late Al Davis’ son to “Tommy Boy”, I called Jackson’s firing an astonishingly dumb move. Then-Raiders wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh was among those who shared that opinion, telling me, “I’ll bet you San Diego, Kansas City and Denver like this move, because we would have been good next year with Hue.”
Well, next year is here, and it’s indeed a horror show: Two weeks into the 2012 season, the Raiders are the worst team in football – and the obvious occupant of the lowest rung on our 32 Questions status-interpretation ladder. They have taken the term ugly early to a new level, having been blown out last Sunday by the Dolphins, for whom the ignominious 32nd question was saved a week ago.
Or, to put it another way: The Romney campaign has had a better September than the Raiders.
I take no joy in the misery of Raider Nation. Oakland hasn’t had a winning season since 2002, and an extensive rebuilding process is a lot to ask of this particular fan base, especially when its rival across the Bay – to whom our first question is dedicated for the second consecutive week – looks like the class of football a year after a rookie coach provoked a dramatic turnaround.
So far, Allen is the anti-Jim Harbaugh. On a positive note, the Raiders’ new coach is quite docile in news conferences (”We’ve got to coach better, we’ve got to play better”) and keeps his grooming habits to himself.
If his unmanicured hand can guide the Raiders out of this Black Hole anytime soon, there’s no question I’ll be forced to reassess my view of the situation. Until then, I miss Hue
– and whether they admit it, I suspect a lot of Raiders fans do, too.
And we’re ranked #32 in yahoo’s power rankings!!!
YOU HEAR THAT REGGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:59 am
DAV…they added DVD to the 53′ he’s actually playing mon Sundays.
That’s far rom coach speak…
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If he was talking about DVD the week before they play the Browns or anyone else, you might have a point.
They’re playing the Raiders. He’s gonna talk about him. LOL.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I told you people that you should expect a few mistakes from a rookie GM and a young/ rookie HC.
Mistakes IMO:
1- hiring Knapp and Hoffman
2- Dtafting the 26 YO rookie OG who is inactive on gamedays over a CB or a speedy pass rusher.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
He said he’s been good on special teams and is learning the defense………. WOW, how’d we cut THAT guy???
I was all for keeping DVD by the way. But if Bartell & Spencer are healthy nobody is even bringing him up.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
DAV… Tomlin’s mentioned him because he was asked by the media guys.
Either way, Reggie threw away a draft pick with potential and added corners who can’t line up within 10 yds of the LOS…not a very impressive start Reg.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
DAV… Tomlin’s mentioned him because he was asked by the media guys.
Either way, Reggie threw away a draft pick with potential and added corners who can’t line up within 10 yds of the LOS…not a very impressive start Reg.
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He signed 2 proven CBs in Bartell & Spencer, then signed 2 very good slot corners in Lee & Hanson.
Injuries are making it fall apart.
Easy to see.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
You know guys, I believe that DVD will be the least of our worries on Sunday!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The funny thing is, if we had kept DVD, people would be crying about how were gonna get toasted because he cant ‘play the ball’, and he cant tackle….
Some of you guys are rreeeeeaalllly funny.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Pitts 27 Raiders 13
September 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Watching DVD tackle our punt returning inside the 5 when he fields a punt at the 2 again will be the least of our worries for sure…Miami’s gunners were getting away from the Los untouched and out running our guys downfield all day.
Meanwhile our gunners were blocked 10 yards past the point were the Miami returner was fielding the ball…this team is messed up bad right now, top to bottom.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The funny thing is, if we had kept DVD, people would be crying about how were gonna get toasted because he cant ‘play the ball’, and he cant tackle….
Some of you guys are rreeeeeaalllly funny.
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You mean like you’re doing right now in reverse? Lol. Weren’t you high on DVD when he was here and said he wouldn’t get cut? I remember you fighting the good fight.
I’ve maintained that I’m not impressed. Despite all the practice success, I didnt like what I saw in game situations.
It’s all good, tho. Yanking your chain, DAV.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:22 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The funny thing is, if we had kept DVD, people would be crying about how were gonna get toasted because he cant ‘play the ball’, and he cant tackle….
Some of you guys are rreeeeeaalllly funny.
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You mean like you’re doing right now in reverse? Lol. Weren’t you high on DVD when he was here and said he wouldn’t get cut? I remember you fighting the good fight.
I’ve maintained that I’m not impressed. Despite all the practice success, I didnt like what I saw in game situations.
It’s all good, tho. Yanking your chain, DAV.
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For sure.
I’ve said that I wanted him kept all along, Im a Canes fan…but he didnt do it in the game.
Its frustrating to me that the same people who talked negative about him are now using him as ammunition against Reggie… Makes no sense.
We’re not 0-2 because DVD got cut, or Murphy was traded LOL..
September 20th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Its frustrating to me that the same people who talked negative about him are now using him as ammunition against Reggie… Makes no sense.
We’re not 0-2 because DVD got cut, or Murphy was traded LOL..
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You wouldn’t know that from some folks around here.
At the root of it, i think the problem is that Reggie isn’t Al Davis.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Same O-Line under Al Saunders,
Mcfadden over 5 yds a carry.
Same O-Line under Greg Knapp,
Mcfadden 2 yds a carry.
Knapp must go.
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp#
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
DAV……
Most of Tomlin’s comments including the draft stuff were made september 12th….after the Denver game and prior to theNYJ game where DVD played even better as their starting gunner….didnt you and others say DVD neded to go because he could not play ST’s???….turns out he can.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
589.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Everyone is going nuts because Mike Tomlin has been singing DVD’s praises days before they play the team that cut him…What else is he gonna say?? LOL..
You guys are too easy.
You all just got trolled by Mike Tomlin.
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Said the same thing yesterday. What coach isn’t going to talk up one of his guys?
People act like Reggie cut the second coming of Mike Haynes. Reality: DVD is the Steelers 5th CB and I’m not sure if he’s taken so much as one snap on defense.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Oh, now its Al Saunders.
Thought it was Hue Jackson’s ‘explosive’ offense.
Hard to keep up with the propaganda on this blog sometimes.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
DAV……
Most of Tomlin’s comments including the draft stuff were made september 12th….after the Denver game and prior to theNYJ game where DVD played even better as their starting gunner….didnt you and others say DVD neded to go because he could not play ST’s???….turns out he can.
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I never said DVD should go at all.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Explosive offense? Hue’s offense was more like explosive diarreah.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
582.DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
If you look at some of the moves Reggie has made it doesn’t look good.
-DVD. Look what Tomlin says about him and how he’s doing at Pitt. Reggie just let’s him go and then is left with bringing in practice squad players in an emergency panic.
-Louis Murphy. I didn’t think we needed him either. It turns out we probably did.
-Mike Brisiel. By all accounts a horrible move and a big contract to boot.
..those don’t appear to be good GM moves.
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1) DVD is a bottom of the roster guy on any team in the league. He went from being our 5th CB to the Steelers’s. Big whoop.
2) You cannot point me to a receiver on the roster that Louis Murphy is better than. Maybe Juron Criner, but that’s exactly where Murphy would’ve been stuck too: the bottom of the depth chart.
3) Brisiel was a widely lauded move when he was brought in and for good reason. Absolutely no one that I’m aware of was on record at the time at saying he wouldn’t be any good.
The howling over moves made of the bottom part of the Raiders roster is insanity.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Michael Silver @MikeSilver
To all you raiders fans protesting that I should have put them 31 (behind the chiefs) instead of 32… we’re really arguing about this?
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September 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Our Special Teams have been ‘Special Ed’ BAD…
Glad the GM isn’t responsible for ANY of these issues.
Thanks for clearing that up, what exactly does the GM do?
Order the catering for the team meals must be his main priority,
cause he’s free and clear from any responsibility for the product on the field according to some of you…
September 20th, 2012 at 9:32 am
J Hill Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am
I did. Wife gave it to me as a gift actually so I should’ve said she ponied up the money. It’s awesome.
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Cool!
I’ll take your analysis as truth since you’re looking at coaches film.
55 played a nice first 6 qtrs though. I think there is some bias there, lol.
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He was better in the San Diego game for sure. I *hope* it was just the concussion screwing with him in the Miami game.
It’s not all doom and gloom about 55: he plays nice pass defense.
What he is is a 3-4 ILB. He plays the pass well there so he can drop into coverage easy and would have much less territory to try and cover.
I fully expect Reggie to deal McClain to a 3-4 team for a 3rd-5th round pick either in the off-season or come draft day.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 am
DAV.
My bad if you were for keeping DVD…..now who is it you keep mentioning as wanting him gone before and now turning around and lamenting we cut him?.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
We’re not 0-2 because DVD got cut, or Murphy was traded LOL..
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Lol. Certainly not. I think folks are real let down and looking for someone to hang.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is hilarious. Vince Young once spent 6k at TGI Fridays. 5k a week at Cheesecake Factory?
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/vince-young-spent-5k-a-week-at-the-cheesecake-factory-bought-entire-southwest-flights.php
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Michael Silver @MikeSilver
To all you raiders fans protesting that I should have put them 31 (behind the chiefs) instead of 32… we’re really arguing about this?
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Lol. Dude has a point. What does it matter? We suck until proven otherwise.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
587.The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
How about “Hey, we’re trying….sort of” as the motto?
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Lol, DJ. Come down off that ledge, bro.
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Thx. but I need something remotely resembling positive to happen before i stopp teetering on that ledge.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
616.The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
We’re not 0-2 because DVD got cut, or Murphy was traded LOL..
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Lol. Certainly not. I think folks are real let down and looking for someone to hang.
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Exactly right.
It’s Hue’s own damn fault he was canned. If he keeps mouth shut, he may very well still be here.
OR if he had his team fully prepared to play against Denver & Tebow, Miami, Green Bay, Detroit or San Diego, he’s still here too.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 am
DAV.
My bad if you were for keeping DVD…..now who is it you keep mentioning as wanting him gone before and now turning around and lamenting we cut him?.
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I dont remember the names..
I just know there werent too many with me defending him making the team..
September 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
617.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is hilarious. Vince Young once spent 6k at TGI Fridays. 5k a week at Cheesecake Factory?
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WTF
I like the Cheesecake Factory and all, but how do you spend 5 grand in a lifetime there, let alone a week? And TGI Friday’s is fcking terrible and he drops 6K? How?! Insanity.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
We could have went 1-1 and still be at the bottom of the list! Who cares. Ticked off how we started (as any fan would) but not gonna let the Raider’s season dictate my life! If we win the Superbowl, yes that will be an exciting part of my life (and I have witnessed 3), but after that win, maybe celebrate a week than its on to the next episode!
Stay away from the ledge my fellow Nation brothers and sisters!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
621.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 am
DAV.
My bad if you were for keeping DVD…..now who is it you keep mentioning as wanting him gone before and now turning around and lamenting we cut him?.
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I dont remember the names..
I just know there werent too many with me defending him making the team..
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I liked him as a dime corner
I’ve yet to see anyone offer evidence he’s a better option than Pat Lee. Hell, DVD isn’t probably any better than Brandian Ross.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
SilverNBlackPA, do you have access to the game tape right now ?
If so, can you tell me whether Myers was CP’s first read on the 3rd and 10 during the Raid’s first posession of the 2nd half ? Came at about the 14 min mark in the 3rd qtr.
Would like to know what the WR’s did that play. Was CP hurried into checking down to Myers, or what ?
Completing a 4 yard gain to Myers on that play is a HUGE fail. Part of the 1-13 conversion absurdity. Would like to know who is responsible in your opinion.
What does the tape say about Knapp’s playcalling for that specific play ?
September 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
We could have went 1-1 and still be at the bottom of the list! Who cares.
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Power lists are the most pointless sch!t in the world. I don’t even read them.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
We’re not 0-2 because DVD got cut, or Murphy was traded LOL..
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We are 0-2 cause we fired Hue!
We are 0-2 cause we implemented the ZBS!
We are 0-2 cause Knapp is calling plays!
We are 0-2 cause…the list could go on and on!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
617.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is hilarious. Vince Young once spent 6k at TGI Fridays. 5k a week at Cheesecake Factory?
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WTF
I like the Cheesecake Factory and all, but how do you spend 5 grand in a lifetime there, let alone a week? And TGI Friday’s is fcking terrible and he drops 6K? How?! Insanity.
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He also bought 120 of 130 seats on a South West Airlines flight once just so he could have some privacy.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Palmer has good #’s but the fact is he isnt really doing that great in the offense yet either.
Literally every person on the offense’s timing is off.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Oh, now its Al Saunders.
Thought it was Hue Jackson’s ‘explosive’ offense.
Hard to keep up with the propaganda on this blog sometimes.
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Hey Dummy-
When making a fair comparison, you compare two people or objects that are in the same class, position, or status.
You can compare a Mercedes to a BMW.
You can compare 5 Guys to In-N-Out.
And you compare one offensive coordinator to another offensive coordinator.
Same O-Line under Offensive Coordinator Al Saunders,
Mcfadden over 5 yds a carry.
Same O-Line under Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp,
Mcfadden 2 yds a carry.
Dennis Allen’s Visor, you are obviously just as clueless as the coach who’s head you sit on top of.
Knapp must go.
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp#
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is hilarious. Vince Young once spent 6k at TGI Fridays. 5k a week at Cheesecake Factory?
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/vince-young-spent-5k-a-week-at-the-cheesecake-factory-bought-entire-southwest-flights.php
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This is the same guy some in here clamored for? Lol. SMH
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
r8eray Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
We’re not 0-2 because DVD got cut, or Murphy was traded LOL..
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We are 0-2 cause we fired Hue!
We are 0-2 cause we implemented the ZBS!
We are 0-2 cause Knapp is calling plays!
We are 0-2 cause…the list could go on and on!
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Ahhh The great Hue Jackson and his ‘explosive’ offense.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
DAV……post 121….I was.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
SilverNBlackPA, do you have access to the game tape right now ?
If so, can you tell me whether Myers was CP’s first read on the 3rd and 10 during the Raid’s first posession of the 2nd half ? Came at about the 14 min mark in the 3rd qtr.
Would like to know what the WR’s did that play. Was CP hurried into checking down to Myers, or what ?
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3 WR set, DM17 in the slot. Can’t tell who was out wide, but I think it was DHB and Streater.
Anyway, the ball is snapped and Reshad Jones comes on a safety blitz. Myers is supposed to hit him to slow him down and then release. Which he does, except his block is ineffective and Jones comes in basically unhindered. Palmer has to get the throw off to Myers.
He had Moore open to his right, but Moore’s route was shallow too and he gets at most 6 or 7 yards out of it, which still isn’t enough for the 1st down.
The WRs running deeper hadn’t even completed their routes before Palmer was forced to throw. And it wouldn’t have mattered if they had because they were well covered.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
DVD was cut deservedly.
His play during the pre-season games was abysmal.
Toasted in coverage and his tackling wasn’t even good enough to play in Pop Warner.
He has the speed and quickness to contribute on special teams, but that’s it.
If he is ever to have hopes of starting at CB, he’s going to have to add at least 10 lbs of bulk while maintaining his speed.
If he can do that and refine his coverage technique he could eventually be a player.
He is a project at best.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
DAV……post 121….I was.
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Right on brother.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:48 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
DVD was cut deservedly.
His play during the pre-season games was abysmal.
Toasted in coverage and his tackling wasn’t even good enough to play in Pop Warner.
He has the speed and quickness to contribute on special teams, but that’s it.
If he is ever to have hopes of starting at CB, he’s going to have to add at least 10 lbs of bulk while maintaining his speed.
If he can do that and refine his coverage technique he could eventually be a player.
He is a project at best.
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I dont think weight or muscle have anything to do with it.
Its the desire to make a tackle.
There have been plenty of DBs who were light, but could tackle.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is hilarious. Vince Young once spent 6k at TGI Fridays. 5k a week at Cheesecake Factory?
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/vince-young-spent-5k-a-week-at-the-cheesecake-factory-bought-entire-southwest-flights.php
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This is the same guy some in here clamored for? Lol. SMH
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I’m sure Mistic would rather have Vince Young than Palmer.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
I agree injuries have played a role in our situation at corner…that’s obvious and a fair point…but…doesn’t a good GM plan for the inevitability of injuries?
Would not DVD be a better option than having to scour teams practice squads in a panic to shore up that position?
Maybe “explosive” is not the correct adjective to describe Hue’s offense, but it was good enuff to single handedly win 8 ball games last yr seeing as our defense was virtually non-existent.
The fact is we went from an 8-8 team (claims of it being a ‘mirage” not withstanding) and NOW are the WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL…with almost the same roster, and really no more significant changes than any other team made. A few here and there just like everyone else.
In fact, the team returns it’s best player DMAC..who was basically absent from said 8-8 squad.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
@DennisAllensVisor
I was kinda curious about whose offense it was, between Saunders and Hue. I don’t want to take anything away from Hue. But I was kinda shocked he ended up as a assistant Special teams coach/DBs. WTF? Black-balled? Or is there a story in the inner NFL circles?
Didn’t the Raiders always have a better offense in the first half of games? Like we were relying on the scripted plays? Maybe Hue scripted these plays? Maybe Saunders scripted the plays? Maybe they scripted them together?
Just curious…
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Basically a lot of things went wrong on that play:
-McFadden was back for pass protection, but had to step up to catch a linebacker coming up the middle. That’s on the o-line for crap pass protection.
-Myers’s chip before releasing was horrible
-I’m not sure that was the right play to call because it seems to me you had two guys running too shallow (Moore/Myers) and two guys running too deep (DHB/Streater) There was no one right at the first down marker, they were either 5 yards in front of it or past it.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
I agree injuries have played a role in our situation at corner…that’s obvious and a fair point…but…doesn’t a good GM plan for the inevitability of injuries?
Would not DVD be a better option than having to scour teams practice squads in a panic to shore up that position?
Maybe “explosive” is not the correct adjective to describe Hue’s offense, but it was good enuff to single handedly win 8 ball games last yr seeing as our defense was virtually non-existent.
The fact is we went from an 8-8 team (claims of it being a ‘mirage” not withstanding) and NOW are the WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL…with almost the same roster, and really no more significant changes than any other team made. A few here and there just like everyone else.
In fact, the team returns it’s best player DMAC..who was basically absent from said 8-8 squad.
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-I’d like to meet the GM who has a contingency plan for both his starting CBs getting hurt.
-And if my memory serves me, 7 of our 8 wins were by less than 7. And our D had to make a stop to end the game. So lets not heave all the credit on the O that was 16th in scoring.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
638.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is hilarious. Vince Young once spent 6k at TGI Fridays. 5k a week at Cheesecake Factory?
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/vince-young-spent-5k-a-week-at-the-cheesecake-factory-bought-entire-southwest-flights.php
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This is the same guy some in here clamored for? Lol. SMH
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I’m sure Mistic would rather have Vince Young than Palmer.
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Yeah guys…I’m tellin’ ya there’s this 3rd stringer on Tampa named Lacedarious Washington who is certainly the future of the NFL…MUCH better than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning could ever hoe to be in a million years.
The only reason he isn’t starting right now is becuz he just hasn’t been given a real shot. It’s sad though, cuz i’m tellin ya this kid has a very unique skill set that stretches the field.
You’ll be hearing from him and alot more just like him to replace the pathetic Bardy’s, Mannings, and Breeses of the world.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Thank you S&BPA.
Can you do one more ?
On the long Bush TD that ends with Branch and Huff trailing him into the EZ…
What is Slo doing on that play ?
I’ve seen it posted in here that Branch ran into Slo on that play and hindered any chance of him making a tackle.
Is that true, or was there a Fin that interfered with him ?
Slo isn’t even close to laying a glove on Bush on that play and I’d like to know the real reason.
Thanks again, S&BPA.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
-And if my memory serves me, 7 of our 8 wins were by less than 7. And our D had to make a stop to end the game. So lets not heave all the credit on the O that was 16th in scoring.
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8 wins:
23-20 over Denver
34-24 over New York
25-20 over Houston
24-17 over Cleveland
24-17 over San Diego
27-21 over Minnesota
25-20 over Chicago
16-13 over KC in OT
So you’re exactly right.
People act like the Raiders were winning games 38-35 or whatever last year. It’s not the case.
Hubert’s “explosive” offense scored over 30 points exactly twice. Once in the Jets victory, once in the Bills loss.
Hue’s offense = vastly overrated by many in here
September 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Yeah guys…I’m tellin’ ya there’s this 3rd stringer on Tampa named Lacedarious Washington who is certainly the future of the NFL…MUCH better than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning could ever hoe to be in a million years.
The only reason he isn’t starting right now is becuz he just hasn’t been given a real shot. It’s sad though, cuz i’m tellin ya this kid has a very unique skill set that stretches the field.
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LMFAO
Excellent impression
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Lacedarious Washington
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LMAO
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Its never as bad or as good as you think.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
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Sterling Moore.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
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Klas has good feeling about Brandian Ross.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
642,
Our D was described aptly as the worst in the league since the 1952 Texans.
The D made a few stops but folded miserably in Buffalo, Detroit and Denver…ALL very winnable games if they could have played “average”.
8-8 is what it is…a far cry from being the WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL right now.
I’m not saying we were great last yr. or that the offense was… just that from where we were to where we are???
We are a laughingstock once again…and we had made strides.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
The thing I will miss most about Hue Jackson is his ability to make the greatest trade in NFL history. That is a unteachable asset.
Oh, and TJ Houshmanzadeh.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
648.DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
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Granted, but isn’t that more of the exception?
I thought it was a bad move to let him go in the first place.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Thank you S&BPA.
Can you do one more ?
On the long Bush TD that ends with Branch and Huff trailing him into the EZ…
What is Slo doing on that play ?
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Raiders are in their base 4-3 alignment. Sweep play to the left.
1st thing that goes wrong: Miami blocked that play well, straight up. Sometimes you just get beat
2nd thing that goes wrong: Pretty much everyone on the defense reacts badly. They don’t think Bush is going as wide as he is so they’re out of position.
3rd thing that goes wrong: McClain is actually the one guy who seems to see what is happening and is moving to stop it. He’s slowed by a cut block by a Miami guard and then Branch comes charging at a bad angle AND for bonus cuts off McClain’s angle too and Bush is off to the races. Also, the Miami fullback was out there and managed to squirt in between Branch and Bush.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
SilverNBlackPA Says: It’s Hue’s own damn fault he was canned. If he keeps mouth shut, he may very well still be here.//////////////I’ve said it before. Best evidence Al Davis was still entirely with it (compos mentis) was the gag order he imposed on Huebris during his first six months here. Al knew exactly who Hue was.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
651.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
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Klas has good feeling about Brandian Ross.
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I do too, though it’s probably nothing more than wishful thinking and clutching at any straws that present themselves.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
642,
Our D was described aptly as the worst in the league since the 1952 Texans.
The D made a few stops but folded miserably in Buffalo, Detroit and Denver…ALL very winnable games if they could have played “average”.
8-8 is what it is…a far cry from being the WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL right now.
I’m not saying we were great last yr. or that the offense was… just that from where we were to where we are???
We are a laughingstock once again…and we had made strides.
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We were a laughingstock last year.
The most undisciplined team in NFL history.
You think if we kept Hue we would somehow have cap space the next 3 years??
You dont think about that do you?
But you like the guy that trades almost 2 1st round picks for Carson Palmer, calls it the greatest trade ever. You want that guy running the ship lol..
September 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
649.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Its never as bad or as good as you think.
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I agree.
If the O-line can execute better, we get a FB who can actually block someone and Knapp gets more creative with his use of personnel, the offense can still be good. Those are all very fixable problems.
I still think we’re hosed though because that secondary is sh!ttastic and I don’t see how any amount of coaching or scheming can make up for the current lack of talent thanks to the injuries.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
648.DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
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Granted, but isn’t that more of the exception?
I thought it was a bad move to let him go in the first place
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It was pretty unanimous around here that it was a Stupid move to cut Sterling..dude made plays.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Afternoon Reggie lovers.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Its never as bad or as good as you think.
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That’s true. But there isn’t much doubt that right now this team is incredibly bad and in dire straits.
Secondary injuries and issues on defense are huge negatives.
On offense, there’s not a real excuse.
The personnel changes and shuffling of the OLine do NOT adequately account for how bad and anemic we’ve been.
I maintain that Knapp going to the ZBS and his lousy playcalling and scheming is the largest contributing factor to our woes on O.
Problems on O can be cleaned up and rectified.
Problems on D not so easily fixable until the CB problem is resolved.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
Hubert’s “explosive” offense scored over 30 points exactly twice. Once in the Jets victory, once in the Bills loss.
Hue’s offense = vastly overrated by many in here//////////////////Agreed, but even at 8-8 two years running, with Huebris as OC and HC it was more fun watching the Raiders play than anytime since 2003. Except maybe Norv and Kerry Collins. And when you can make Jason Campbell fun to watch, you’re doing something right.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Is it a minimum day schedule at school??
September 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I don’t wanna get into an argument over Hue Jackson…He’s gone and we have to move on.
Suffice to say things looked alot brighter being so close to winning division last year and where they are now.
You guys can draw your own conclusions as to why that is and we all have differing opinions on that.
The fact remains we are the worst in football by almost everyone’s analysis and it’s hard to argue that point.
How does this team get better?
September 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
654.DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
648.DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
There was a team last year…hmmmm, cannot remember who had to pick corners off another teams practice squad and they ended up starting that player. I think the team made it to the Super Bowl…The organization is considered top notch.
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Granted, but isn’t that more of the exception?
I thought it was a bad move to let him go in the first place.
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Hard not to speculate about DVD and what happended (why he was cut). So much of the story isn’t told. Was he he not responding to coaching, was he cut solely for his play on the field? Did he grab a handful of Man-Boob?
Was the cut by the Raiders a wake up call to DVD? Is he a different player now that he cleared waivers and was picked up by the Steelers. Lots of guys don’t make it on teams and then join another team and do well. You are a pretty cool dude DJ and always enjoy reading your posts. Didn’t want to sound disrepectful..
September 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
We need to make another list
On one side will be those who are sure Knapp is the problem. On the other side will be those of us who think theres something wrong with the McFadden.
He sure does not look like a elite RB, more like a Lendale White. I think he needs to get back on the roids, either that or he just cycled on/off at the wrong time.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Anyone who actually watched games last year knows that Hue derailed our momentum often because of his lack of decisiveness. People love to call him a gambler, but too many times I saw our QB (both QBs) standing in front of the huddle, helplessly staring at the sidelines, waiting for a play to be called. It killed our momentum on many drives, and that is why we could move the football, but not score.
What we are seeing from Knapp is only slightly more frustrating.
Remember people, it took Hue’s “explosive” offense 7 weeks to make any kind of noise, and that only came because Denver in 2010 was the softed, most punchless team I’ve seen in decades.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I don’t wanna get into an argument over Hue Jackson…He’s gone and we have to move on.
Suffice to say things looked alot brighter being so close to winning division last year and where they are now.
You guys can draw your own conclusions as to why that is and we all have differing opinions on that.
The fact remains we are the worst in football by almost everyone’s analysis and it’s hard to argue that point.
How does this team get better?
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Agreed.
Execution.
I think 1 big play sets us off. Similar to the Rod Woodson pick 6.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Im putting word out. I support Reggie 100 percent because when the total roster is his and he has all draft picks. Then Im gonna complain if we stink. But this is a transition and I wasnt happy hue was fired , but I understood the need for the gm to hire his guy. I was suprised many wasnt worried on here about the change in offensive style. But the raiders will be fine, we all have just suffered too long and want quick fix
September 20th, 2012 at 10:17 am
How does this team get better?
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Better execution and coaching. It’s cliche but it’s absolutely true in this case.
Knapp needs to use his tools better. Reece and Ausberry have got to be more involved. He needs to stop it with the stretch plays. But his players are letting him down too in a big way, particularly the offensive line. Watching their performance right now, I’m not sure they’d be doing any better in a man blocking scheme.
More than few plays this season have been one little thing from going big. Someone misses a block that would’ve sprung DMac and he gets stuffed. Palmer throws high over an open WR. A WR doesn’t make a catch that, while tough, needs to be made in the NFL.
If everyone can focus and do their jobs, the offense at lesat will be fine. That’s Coach Allen’s #1 task right now.
As for the defense, I like what Tarver is doing and as I said above, I think the secondary is basically hopeless for now.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Que Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Im putting word out. I support Reggie 100 percent because when the total roster is his and he has all draft picks. Then Im gonna complain if we stink. But this is a transition and I wasnt happy hue was fired , but I understood the need for the gm to hire his guy. I was suprised many wasnt worried on here about the change in offensive style. But the raiders will be fine, we all have just suffered too long and want quick fix
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Probably the most rational comment i’ve read in months.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I think 1 big play sets us off. Similar to the Rod Woodson pick 6.
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It’s quite possible. Someone makes that 1 big block or big catch or big pass and it could light a fire & set off a chain reaction.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
But you like the guy that trades almost 2 1st round picks for Carson Palmer, calls it the greatest trade ever. You want that guy running the ship lol..
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It’s better than what we’ve got now and that’s a fact.
Guys with credentials outside of being a poster on in internet blog that get PAID to analyze this stuff say the same thing…Lol.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:20 am
0 – 2 is not the end of the season. They still have time to right the ship.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:21 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
But you like the guy that trades almost 2 1st round picks for Carson Palmer, calls it the greatest trade ever. You want that guy running the ship lol..
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It’s better than what we’ve got now and that’s a fact.
Guys with credentials outside of being a poster on in internet blog that get PAID to analyze this stuff say the same thing…Lol.
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Did you just say the guy who traded possibly 2 1st round picks for Carson Palmer is better running the team than Reggie McKenzie?…
I read it wrong right?… Please say I read it wrong.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Thanks for your 655, SilverNBlackPA. Appreciate it.
I thought McLazy was slowed by an attempted cut block, wasn’t sure.
Even taking into account superb blocking by Mia, there was a total breakdown by the D on that play.
Bush should have been stringed out to the sideline.
No way he can be allowed to break containment with virtually no resistance like that.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
674.DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
But you like the guy that trades almost 2 1st round picks for Carson Palmer, calls it the greatest trade ever. You want that guy running the ship lol..
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It’s better than what we’ve got now and that’s a fact.
Guys with credentials outside of being a poster on in internet blog that get PAID to analyze this stuff say the same thing…Lol.
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Also there is a big difference between wishing we had Hue as an OC than wishing we had Hue as the Head Coach/GM…I know Hue being retained as the OC was not really an option.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
We are just going to have to admit that this is transition year. All we can hope for is progress.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
If you trade 2 1st round picks for Carson Palmer, and refer to it as the greatest trade ever, I dont want you running my franchise in Madden ‘13, let alone real life.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Bush should have been stringed out to the sideline.
No way he can be allowed to break containment with virtually no resistance like that.
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It was awful. he broke containment because no one was containing him. They thought he was going to cut upfield much, much earlier than he did.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
L.A. Raider Dave Says: 0 – 2 is not the end of the season. They still have time to right the ship./////////////If not for that second half in Miami, I think most in here would agree. Maybe that was a perfect storm of miscues, bad luck, and scheduling or what have you. I doubt it, but remain hopeful.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
We are just going to have to admit that this is transition year. All we can hope for is progress.
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I dont get why anyone had any idea the next 2-3 years werent transition years.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
If Bartell and Spencer were playing, I’d say that at the least we could give the Steelers a tough game if not pull out a win
But with Pat Lee, Joselio Hanson, a FS pressed into CB duties and a guy just signed off another team’s practice squad less than a week before the game…no chance.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
One of these days…hopefully…someone is going to remember that Ausberry and Reece on still on this football team…
September 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
We are just going to have to admit that this is transition year. All we can hope for is progress.
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I dont get why anyone had any idea the next 2-3 years werent transition years.
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Klas thought we could compete for AFC West given how weak it is. Probably not, though.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
tonedeezy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
One of these days…hopefully…someone is going to remember that Ausberry and Reece on still on this football team…
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And hopefully it’s the guy with the greasy hair.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
683.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
We are just going to have to admit that this is transition year. All we can hope for is progress.
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I dont get why anyone had any idea the next 2-3 years werent transition years.
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Kool-Aid…Lots of Rhetoric from the Raiders…Seymour Top 5 defense, the running and passing game were going to look better this year. Did anybody catch the Raiders commercials during the Monday night game for Season tickets?
September 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Guys we don t wanna think it nor hear it but. What needs to happen , needs to happen and if that finally getting a franchise QB and a lot of players on defense. So be it, its the raiders time to get back to being a dynasty and teh Quick fixing signing journeyman QB every year needs to stop. This team has a GM now he needs the 1st pick and many others
September 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Ben Roethlisberger Foundation is distributing a grant to Oakland Police Department K-9 unit. 6th season he’s distributed grants to K-9 units
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Ben is not such bad guy.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Still think Matt Flynn is going to be Raider next year.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:33 am
I bet if Pittsburgh puts Mendenhall out on the field on Sunday (in his condition) he’ll still get over 100 yards rushing!
My money says Antonio Brown will have a field day on Sunday…somewhere along the lines of 150+ receiving 2+TD kinda day!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Faux John Madden @FauxJohnMadden
BREAKING: Chris Johnson having a hard time leaving his house because his car is 20 yards away from his door.
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LMAO!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
The ads we are running right now make me ill….
Hearing ‘Mumbles’ and the ‘Boy Wonder’ speak makes me cringe.
Neither ofmthesentwo have done Jack squat and hearing the phrase,
“get us to where we want to be” sounds so vague and hallow…
Loser BS all the way…
September 20th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I don’t know if this has been posted yet, and if so I apologize–Its tough to scroll through 700 posts–
However, this is a pretty accurate illustration of DMAC’s struggles as of late…and I think SilverNBlackPA and some of you other guys are right…DMAC breaks that one play, and the lightbulb goes on for him. I KNOW it can happen. Its just like what happens in golf, or snowboarding, or diving or anything. Until you do it, your unsure and hesitant..but once you do: You can feel it, and it becomes part of you. Physicality is about feeling what to do, not about THINKING what to do.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1340925-breaking-down-darren-mcfaddens-early-struggles
September 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Can we for the LOVE OF THOR AT LEAST ACTIVATE PRYOR FOR THE GAME SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
You guys remember the Miami game in Oakland 2 years ago ?
Miami sure did.
Was Hartline abusing our left CB repeatedly on the same play eerily reminiscent of Walter McFadden getting toasted over and over on the same play and same side 2 years ago, or what ?
I like what I’ve seen from Tarver so far, but can’t understand how you can get beat over and over by the same play without coming up with some sort of adjustment.
I don’t think the Fins had a positive pass play to their left the entire game (with the exception of one play Spencer got flagged for defensive holding).
I don’t think that right now Tannehill can throw to his left to save his life and other teams will exploit this. We didn’t.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Rm99
On the first play ur asking about, Meyers was the hot read. Palmer should have had him stay. We’ll never know if it was a bad play call. CP3 had zero time. I put that play on Palmer.
On the Reggie run. Its exactly as PA says. Rolando was about the only guy doing anything right. The DE lost the edge, so did the CB. The play should havebeen contained. Romac had his gap and instead of branch making the angle he shoots right up into romacs and collides into his back.
Just pathetic.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Raiders beat up Steelers easily!! 27-10 Raiders!! Were 1-2 moving Forward!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:55 am
First offensive play for Pitt, Rolando will try to body slam Ben and snaps his back, out for career. Seymour rushes to the rescus and knocks out Ben again, suspended and kicked out! Travis Goethal gets body slammed by Pouncey and Desmond Bryant gets a sack! After 50 yards of penalties, 3-0!
OK, just kidding of course…had to break the monotony here!