Off. coord. Knapp pleads for ‘patience’
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, September 20th, 2012 at 3:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
With the Raiders run game 31st after two games, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp has become a lightning rod for criticism. To that end, Knapp pleads for “patience.”
During training camp, Knapp likened the installation of his West Coast Offense to a start-up company, where it takes time to get in synch and to carve out a niche.
“You know who I’m talking to?” Knapp said. “I’m talking to my friends, who call me and let me know, ‘Hang in there, bud. You’ll be fine. I know they’re coming down on the run game.’ It’s like we tell the players: ‘We want success right away but we also have to understand that it takes a little time to develop.’ … I’m very confident we’ll be fine.”
Knapp said proof that the run game is competent comes in the form of Darren McFadden running the ball well in the exhibition games and in the first half against the San Diego Chargers in the regular-season opener.
It also hasn’t helped that the Raiders played Chargers and Dolphins teams that are pretty stout against the run.
“Let’s keep things in perspective for a second here,” Knapp said. “We’ve played two games in the regular season on offense. We’ve had two different centers and a right tackle who played half a game last week. We need some patience.
“You can’t develop a scheme in two weeks in a regular season, especially when last week we faced the No. 3-ranked rush defense from 2011 and the week before they held the number two rush offense in the league to 2.4 yards per carry, the Houston Texans. That was a good team we faced last week. The scheme will be fine. It just takes some time.”
Knapp said the run game flourished in Atlanta, here, Seattle and Houston, when he was with those teams before rejoining the Raiders this season.
It might take a little longer this time around, he said, because the Raiders are working with some young offensive linemen — third-year left tackle Jared Veldheer and second-year center Stefen Wisniewski, who missed all the offseason workouts, all but six snaps of the four exhibition games and the regular-season opener.
“A lot of it depends on who the parts are,” Knapp said. “At four different places, Atlanta, here, Seattle and then when I was in Houston, it was already in play. There was a different running back, five different linemen and a different coach. And all places they’ve had success where we did it at. It depends on that group of players.”
Indeed, Justin Fargas rushed for 1,009 yards in 2008 in Knapp’s offense with the Raiders in his first stint here.
McFadden has rushed for only 54 yards on 26 carries through two games this season, whereas last season he had 222 yards through the first two games.
Playing against a stingy Steelers defense doesn’t bode well for McFadden busting out this week, though the Steelers aren’t expected to have the services of linebacker James Harrison and safety Troy Polamalu.
“It will take a little while,” Knapp said of the run game hitting its stride. “I don’t know what the set time is. A lot of it will be changed week to week, based on who we’re playing. It’s making progress, it’s making progress. It may not look (like it) statistically but in the execution on cut blocks, combination blocks, we’re seeing progress being made.”
– Few Raiders are as qualified to speak about the zone-blocking scheme as left guard Cooper Carlisle.
He spent numerous years executing the scheme with the Denver Broncos, when they featured one of the top rushing offenses in the league. He also has worked in the scheme during his Raiders career.
Carlisle said the zone-blocking scheme is a solid one and that it works once everyone is on the same page.
“Yeah, I’m definitely a believer in the system,” Carlisle said. It works. There’s potential flaws in any system you run or pass, or any defensive system. I’m a believer in it and I still think it’s going to work.”
Carlisle said it’s not anymore difficult to learn the zone-blocking scheme than, say, the man-scheme or power-blocking scheme.
Therefore, he isn’t sure what all the fuss is about with people clamoring for a return to the power-blocking scheme used the past two seasons under Hue Jackson.
“I still have confidence in it, and most guys still have confidence in it,” Carlisle said. “We just haven’t hit any big runs. The flow of the game hasn’t been conducive to runs, either, the last two games, especially in the second half.”
With that said, Carlisle said he is “somewhat” surprised that the run game hasn’t clicked yet. The Raiders amassed only 68 yards on 34 rushes their first two games.
“You go in thinking you’re going to play well and you want to play well,” Carlisle said, “so when it doesn’t work, it’s not ideal.”
– Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain said he is feeling better today than he did either of the first three days after he suffered a concussion against the Miami Dolphins.
Even so, he still hasn’t passed all the tests required of players that suffer a concussion. He needs to pass all the tests before he can be cleared by team doctors to play in a game.
McClain practiced today, which is part of the evaluation process, Allen said.
– Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer prepared for games against the Steelers 17 times during his eight seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals from 2003-10.
As a result, he has plenty of insight into what to expect when playing against one of the league’s best defenses year in and year out.
So it was that Palmer met with Knapp on the players’ off day Tuesday as a means of passing along some of that insight to Knapp.
“He had a lot of information because he’s … faced these guys quite a bit,” Knapp said. “At least half a dozen or so either the winner goes to the playoffs or was a playoff game. He gave me a lot of insight that’s very helpful for my mindset going into the game to attack this defense.”
– Knapp said rookie Tony Bergstrom is progressing well. He also said that Bergstrom now is getting some work at offensive tackle, Bergstrom’s natural position, in light of the groin injury to starting right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes.
Bergstrom was converted to guard as soon as he was selected by the Raiders in the third round of this year’s NFL draft.
– Much was made of former coach Hue Jackson pulling aside McFadden and asking which plays he is most comfortable running, and then going heavy on those plays.
Knapp said he has done the same thing with McFadden.
“Every place I’ve been to, it’s important that we find out, a guy with that kind of talent, what’s his comfort zone and what plays we like to do,” Knapp said. “So, we definitely seek his input, and that comes into play in some of the stuff we do.”
– Steelers coach Mike Tomlin coached against Palmer twice a year from 2007-10, so he has a pretty good take on Palmer’s skill set.
Even though Tomlin’s Steelers haven’t faced Palmer since 2010, he said: “He looks like Carson. He’s highly accurate, he’s very good in play-pass. He can turn his back to the defense and come up throwing, he has better mobility than people give him credit for. He’s a competitor. Got a great deal of respect for Carson Palmer.”
Palmer went 4-8 against the Steelers during his tenure with the Cincinnati Bengals.
– Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said it was tough to part ways with cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke, given Van Dyke has a “boatload of talent.” Tomlin seems equally impressed by Van Dyke now that he’s with the Steelers.
“He’s done a nice job for us, man,” Tomlin said. “He’s provided some quality plays for us just in two ballgames. He downed a punt in Denver on the 1-yard line. He prevented a ball from getting down on the 1-yard line. Last week, he blew up a punt returner that created a turnover.
“He’s been an awesome surprise for us in (special) teams and really just beginning the process of acclimating himself to the defense, and hopefully once he learns what to do, he can be an asset for us there as well.”
Van Dyke tended to be hard on himself during his one-plus seasons with the Raiders. That philosophy about a cornerback needing to have a short-term memory never quite took hold.
Tomlin said he is prepared to judge Van Dyke on what he does from his time with the Steelers.
“We don’t care what happened with him there,” Tomlin said. “We just base our opinions on what happens with him here and how he works, and to this point he’s done a nice job working. He comes to work every day, he’s diligent and detailed and trying to learn what to do, and providing a shot in the arm along the way in the special teams capacity. So that’s our mindset regarding him.”
– If Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is licking his chops over the prospect of facing a depleted Raiders secondary, he isn’t letting on.
“You can’t do that,” Roethlisberger said. “Everyone is in this league for a reason. The biggest thing is, just not knowing who’s going to be out there to watch them on film. For us, the strength of this defense is, it kind of starts up front, and they will tell you that. It’s no disrespect intended for the rest of the guys, but their front seven, and especially their D-line, is just phenomenal.”
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September 20th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Unless you’re a doctor, we don’t want to hear about patients.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Oh heck no
September 20th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Patience my @ss, I’ve been patient for TEN years!
September 20th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Walk the plank losers!
September 20th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
come home to daddy beeech dawg
September 20th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
The Nation pleads for your departure
September 20th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Putz
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
September 20th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
first play of the game ….
mcfadden Zone stretch right for -2 yards
September 20th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
ELWAYs TEETH Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Patience my @ss, I’ve been patient for TEN years!
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It’s gonna take a little patience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LygA4Uj7KE
September 20th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
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Here’s an even more poignant question…
Why would you fire an offensive line coach(Bob Wylie) who is coaching an offensive line to top 5 in the entire league?
If it isn’t because of blatant nepotism and cronyism going on, then give me a reason based on the facts and on the field production!
September 20th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
The Oakland Raiders will win the game against the Steelers this sunday.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Whats the all time best TD dance?
NFL network just did a segment and billy white shoes johnson was #1 for the funky chicken, Rams were #2 with the bob and weave?
I forget the others but I was always impressed by the Icky shuffle
September 20th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Thec Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
The Oakland Raiders will win the game against the Steelers this sunday.
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Adam Schefter and my girlfriend picked us to win too.
Two people that always say the raiders will lose.
Thats a sign LoL
September 20th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
303Raider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Twocents Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I am not a fan of Knapp but we made our bed and we are going to have to sleep with it. Firing people after two games is not a good way to build a franchise. Who would take the job with that kind of security.
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Finally some logic and perspective. The Donks came out of the Detroit game last year 1-4 and went on their run. Let’s see how DA, Knapp, and Tarver make adjustments……
September 20th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Thec I plunkdict the same thing.
The Raiders are overdue. They are a 500 team and they will start playing like one.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Whats the all time best TD dance?
NFL network just did a segment and billy white shoes johnson was #1 for the funky chicken, Rams were #2 with the bob and weave?
I forget the others but I was always impressed by the Icky shuffle
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growing up I loved the “dirty bird” by jamal anderson on the falcons …
September 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Patience is for nerds
The last time I had patience two smokin’ hot strippers were only able to give me below average hand jobs instead of killer BJs
It was the Summer of 2010. I had just finished filling the hot tub with Moet Chandon and these wasted babes told me to wait while they lezzed out on my bear skin rug
Well, after allowing the shorties nearly 40 mins (had to burn the rug the next day), they were too wiped out to give me decent oral pleasure
Lesson learned. The hard way. Holla.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
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Hey Dummass, what this is is 5th in sacks. Not 5th in Oline overall performance. If you go to rushing yards, we would be 7th and Houston would be 2nd. Please, Dummass, women and children, over there, in the corner, in the life boat…
September 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
beeechy let’s go play albert poo-holes
September 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur 1h
Knapp: “Let’s keep things in perspective. We’ve had two different centers. We need some patience. You can’t develop a scheme in 2 weeks.”
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Perspective? Patience?
Look here you clueless imbecile. We want to see TOUCHDOWNS! Ya dimwitted fool…
To say Knapp is about as smart as a sack of cement, would be an insult… To the sack of cement…..
September 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
hahahahaha
September 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
the running game did not work in atlanta. 3 and outs, lots of booing. who are his friends? jim mora jr? the guy who hired him in atlanta and seattle, flunked out of the league both times.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Poor “beeechy” is losing it. hahahaha
September 20th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I still think Knapp is the problem. Why would you “fix” something that wasn’t broke. If we don’t win this week, I’ll at least be happy if Seymour knocks out Ben.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
This week is going to be tough. The squealers are playing well. They come off a pretty good dismantling of the Jets. We are going to have to play mistake free to be in this one Palomalu or not.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dirty bird was # 3
September 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Knapp’s biggest problem is is lack of adjustments. When something doesn’t work… he keeps doing the same thing over and over.
He does not play to the strengths of this team.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
beeechy let’s go play albert poo-holes
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Peemore Nob Bust, hilariously posting from the wrong handle
Love when this happens!
Thanks for all the laughs, Bust. It truly doesn’t get any better
September 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
KNAPP is a slickster, making excuses however, in spite of this the Raider PLAYERS will step up, and defeat the Steelers.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Better slow down seymour, now everyone knows it was you writing homoerotic love poems to the beech
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
don’t listn to them beeech dawg. you know our love is real.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
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Hey Dummass, what this is is 5th in sacks. Not 5th in Oline overall performance. If you go to rushing yards, we would be 7th and Houston would be 2nd. Please, Dummass, women and children, over there, in the corner, in the life boat…
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Hahahahaha!!!!!ROTFLMAO. You are dumbest blogger in the universe.
Go to the top of the page and you will clearly see that the category is Offensive Line…..THE OVERALL OFFENSIVE LINE. Not just sacks, or rushing, but the OVERALL LINE.
I swear you literally may be the dumbest person on this entire blog. And I mean that sincerely.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Even though I despise the Niners, Merton Hanks chicken dance was funny……
September 20th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Said Greg Knapp ‘take it slow’ and it’ll work itself out fine / You stupid fans just need a little patience / Said Greg Knapp ‘nothings wrong with our line’ cause the Dmac will be shining bright / The ZBS has what it takes to make it / We won’t fake it, I’ll never break it / ‘Cause I can’t take it
(whistle)
Little patience, mmm yeah, mm yeah
Need a little patience, yeah
Just a little patience, yeah
Some more patience, yeah
Could use some patience, yeah
Gotta have some patience, yeah
All it takes is patience
Just a little patience
Is all you need
September 20th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
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Hey Dummass, what this is is 5th in sacks. Not 5th in Oline overall performance. If you go to rushing yards, we would be 7th and Houston would be 2nd. Please, Dummass, women and children, over there, in the corner, in the life boat…
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Hahahahaha!!!!!ROTFLMAO. You are dumbest blogger in the universe.
Go to the top of the page and you will clearly see that the category is Offensive Line…..THE OVERALL OFFENSIVE LINE. Not just sacks, or rushing, but the OVERALL LINE.
I swear you literally may be the dumbest person on this entire blog. And I mean that sincerely.
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No it isn’t girlie. Look again. What a foo
September 20th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Huh? Now I’m Klas? I don’t think so.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
33.ArmChair GM Says:
Hahahahaha!!!!!ROTFLMAO. You are dumbest blogger in the universe.
I swear you literally may be the dumbest person on this entire blog. And I mean that sincerely.
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hahaha oakglen never fails to disappoint
September 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Is DHB really worth +$8M of our salary cap?
Do people on this board want to re-sign him to a Mega-deal?
How many teams in the league would he be the #1 receiver? Jags, Browns, Fins?
September 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
I think Knapp wakes up every morning with a wet dream about Houston.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
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Hey Dummass, what this is is 5th in sacks. Not 5th in Oline overall performance. If you go to rushing yards, we would be 7th and Houston would be 2nd. Please, Dummass, women and children, over there, in the corner, in the life boat…
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Hahahahaha!!!!!ROTFLMAO. You are dumbest blogger in the universe.
Go to the top of the page and you will clearly see that the category is Offensive Line…..THE OVERALL OFFENSIVE LINE. Not just sacks, or rushing, but the OVERALL LINE.
I swear you literally may be the dumbest person on this entire blog. And I mean that sincerely.
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No it isn’t girlie. Look again. What a foo
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Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!ROTFLMAO.
You literally cannot read…smh, wow.
Now I just feel sorry for you.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
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Hey Dummass, what this is is 5th in sacks. Not 5th in Oline overall performance. If you go to rushing yards, we would be 7th and Houston would be 2nd. Please, Dummass, women and children, over there, in the corner, in the life boat…
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Hahahahaha!!!!!ROTFLMAO. You are dumbest blogger in the universe.
Go to the top of the page and you will clearly see that the category is Offensive Line…..THE OVERALL OFFENSIVE LINE. Not just sacks, or rushing, but the OVERALL LINE.
I swear you literally may be the dumbest person on this entire blog. And I mean that sincerely.
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Really? I mean, really? It’s sorted on sacks. These are stats for offensive lines. What “statistic” does one use to rank offensive lines overall, exactly?
September 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Is DHB really worth +$8M of our salary cap?
Do people on this board want to re-sign him to a Mega-deal?
How many teams in the league would he be the #1 receiver? Jags, Browns, Fins?
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No
No
Maybe Browns and Dolphins (Jags drafted Blackmon)
September 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
DHB will be re-signed to a long-term deal at a moderate salary. High character guy, works hard, and will be our long-term #2 after Moore.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Man, when the PM Party Patrol starts kicking around Peemore Bust and his aliases, you know the party is gettin’ HYPE!
Brahs, just wait until Bust drags out his Nob Raider sock puppet
Then it’s truly open season, holla
September 20th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Knapp pleads for patience to no avail. fact is if the Raiders lose Sunday the season is over Knapp. 0-3 Teams don’t make the playoffs. the seasons on the line Sunday.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Thanks for clearing that up Raider Dawg
September 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Uh oh, now poor biachi is going to accuse me of being Raider Dawg. Sad confused lil child.
September 20th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Right on. Yahoo sports has an article on the Raiders being the worst team in football “after a coaching change.” Hue is loving it.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
But once again Arm Chair has proven unequivocally he cannot even work an on/off switch. That’s too difficult for him.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
don’t deny our love beeechy.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Hue jackson was a Crap HC. Thats why he’s not an OC or HC. he was garbage and the NFL agrees. time to move on
September 20th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
alex7 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Right on. Yahoo sports has an article on the Raiders being the worst team in football “after a coaching change.” Hue is loving it.
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Hue’s boner might rip thru his sweats when OAKland goes to cincy on 11/25/12
September 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Uh oh, now poor biachi is going to accuse me of being Raider Dawg. Sad confused lil child.
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No I’m going to accuse you of having no reading comprehension.
Sacks, Rushing, etc are individual statistics….The overall performance of the line is what we are looking at.
Yes sacks play a part in an offensive line, but it is not the only part. How often was Palmer under duress in the last game?
The Raiders o-line was overall better than the Texans, and we beat them last year.
Like I said, why the rush to be like Houston?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Silver’s hate for the Raiders or his strange man-love for Hue Jackson is not news.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Hue jackson was a Crap HC. Thats why he’s not an OC or HC. he was garbage and the NFL agrees. time to move on
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That’s the way I see it. Why are we even talking about Jackson?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Can’t cut block in practice. Have to learn on the fly during games. It might take a while for the run game to go anywhere. But F Knapp, he has always sucked and every other org new that over the last two years.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
^knew
September 20th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Raider Dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Really? I mean, really? It’s sorted on sacks. These are stats for offensive lines. What “statistic” does one use to rank offensive lines overall, exactly?
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GOODNESS! You guys know NOTHING about football!
It’s: 200 – (1,000 yard rushers last 10 years) * (pancakes*3-Σ) / (penalties + average salary per starting 5) – √(1st round picks) * ≥pi + ∞
September 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
That’s the way I see it. Why are we even talking about Jackson?
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This is why Dummy…
a)Coaching 101. Call plays that put your players in the best position to make plays
by TJ2K 1:28 PM
b)That’s what Hue Jackson and Al Saunders excelled at.
by scorkran 1:28 PM
Does that make sense to you dummy?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Uh oh, now poor biachi is going to accuse me of being Raider Dawg. Sad confused lil child.
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No I’m going to accuse you of having no reading comprehension.
Sacks, Rushing, etc are individual statistics….The overall performance of the line is what we are looking at.
Yes sacks play a part in an offensive line, but it is not the only part. How often was Palmer under duress in the last game?
The Raiders o-line was overall better than the Texans, and we beat them last year.
Like I said, why the rush to be like Houston?
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Do you see the little red arrow above the sack column? Click on a different column header. See how the list changes? Now the arrow is above that column? It sorts the list on whatever column you click! Fancy! Thanks interweb. Thanks PHP. Thanks Al Gore.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
“Every place I’ve been to, it’s important that we find out, a guy with that kind of talent, what’s his comfort zone and what plays we like to do,” Knapp said. “So, we definitely seek his input, and that comes into play in some of the stuff we do.”
I’d feel better about that statement if it said “…what’s his comfort zone and what plays HE like to do…and that comes into play in A LOT of the stuff we do” Doesn’t matter, though, because I think he is full of crap. I’d like to get McFadden’s take on how much of his input has been implemented into the offense.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Raider Dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Really? I mean, really? It’s sorted on sacks. These are stats for offensive lines. What “statistic” does one use to rank offensive lines overall, exactly?
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GOODNESS! You guys know NOTHING about football!
It’s: 200 – (1,000 yard rushers last 10 years) * (pancakes*3-Σ) / (penalties + average salary per starting 5) – √(1st round picks) * ≥pi + ∞
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C’mon. That’s just the “ESPN Total OLR”. 2012: Year of the Offensive Line.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
That’s the way I see it. Why are we even talking about Jackson?
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This is why Dummy…
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Figure out how to work a light switch or read a chart and then you can come back. Until then, women and children over in the life boat.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Raider Dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Uh oh, now poor biachi is going to accuse me of being Raider Dawg. Sad confused lil child.
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No I’m going to accuse you of having no reading comprehension.
Sacks, Rushing, etc are individual statistics….The overall performance of the line is what we are looking at.
Yes sacks play a part in an offensive line, but it is not the only part. How often was Palmer under duress in the last game?
The Raiders o-line was overall better than the Texans, and we beat them last year.
Like I said, why the rush to be like Houston?
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Do you see the little red arrow above the sack column? Click on a different column header. See how the list changes? Now the arrow is above that column? It sorts the list on whatever column you click! Fancy! Thanks interweb. Thanks PHP. Thanks Al Gore.
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You shouldn’t have done that Dawg. Now he will come back even more confused with even more meaningless stats that he will confuse with God knows what. It’s like handing a three year old a loaded .45
September 20th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Figure out how to work a light switch or read a chart and then you can come back. Until then, women and children over in the life boat.
_______________________________________________________Take your two statistics, rushing and sacks….average them out and then tell me who had the better overall offensive line….Oakland or Houston.
I’ll wait…
September 20th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
In Atlanta vick was a big reason for rushing yards and on Houston he was a qb coach,you need the threat of going deep like they had in Houston to open up the run game.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
It is scary that knapp doesn’t realize his offenses have not been good,he talks like he keeps a top 5 offense.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
You shouldn’t have done that Dawg. Now he will come back even more confused with even more meaningless stats that he will confuse with God knows what. It’s like handing a three year old a loaded .45
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Here’s a stat for you sissy…
Darren Mcfadden 2011 5.1 yds per carry.
Darren Mcfadden 2012 2.1 yds per carry.
You can try and spin it all you want….
Your boy Knapp sucks. Continue giving him fellatio all you want, but the production speaks for itself.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
ZBS
Z one
B ull
S hit
September 20th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Knapp is full of sh!t. His offense sucked the 1st time he was here and his offense sucks now.
This was the SAME crap I heard back then. He preached patience right up till he was relieved of his duties.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Knapp is to 2012 what Bresnahan was to 2011. Both WTF hires
September 20th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Seymour Bush,
I must say you know a lot about the NFL, for a blog commenter.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Frightfully..we are headed to an Art Shell / Bed&Breakfast Tom Walsh-esque 2-14 record with the looks of this offense…Jaguars and Browns are looking like the only games we could win with this “scheme.”
September 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Seymour Bush,
I must say you know a lot about the NFL, for a blog commenter.
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ROTFL…
September 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Yo Brahs, just catching up on some old Amber Lynn adult cinema and couldn’t help but rub one out all over my overstuffed bean bag
She may have fur in all the wrong places, but those hips don’t lie
WRECKS N EFFECT
September 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
This is nothing more than a stalling technique by Knapp.
He knows he sucks and we are sick of losing so he says “be patient”..and he’ll be saying the same dam thing till he’s relieved of his duties.
It buys him more time.
Funny how all we hear is excuses.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
You shouldn’t have done that Dawg. Now he will come back even more confused with even more meaningless stats that he will confuse with God knows what. It’s like handing a three year old a loaded .45
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Here’s a stat for you sissy…
Darren Mcfadden 2011 5.1 yds per carry.
Darren Mcfadden 2012 2.1 yds per carry.
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Darren Mcfadden 2010 5.2, 1157, 7 scores. Best season he has had as a pro. ZBS. Check mate.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
And I plead for HIS HEAD!
September 20th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I think we need a Tom Cable pre-game speech ….
“RIP SOMEBODYS LIPS OFF!”
September 20th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Seymour Bush,
I must say you know a lot about the NFL, for a blog commenter.
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Blog commenter? Is that better than poster?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
I’m in support of Knapp. Want to give this system at least one season. I get what he’s doing. It’s a system built on ball control more than the quick strike, which is what I want.
But here’s my problem with Knapp:
If we’re going to run a WCO, we need to get to those short yardage situations. The whole point of the west coast is to get down to 2nd and short, 3rd and short, etc. If you constantly find yourself at 3rd and long, your WCO is one huge fail. If you have the talent to run a deep passing offense (I don’t think we have the receivers or the line), then third and long is fine. But it’s no spot to be in if your system is a variation of the west coast offense. I want to see Knapp getting us down to 2nd, 3rd and short situations more often. Too many 3rd and longs.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
“You can’t develop a scheme in two weeks in a regular season, especially when last week we faced the No. 3-ranked rush defense from 2011
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Wasn’t Seymour Bush just telling us 2011 stats were useless? Lol.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
2K4S rocks.
Thanks for sending me that CD Beech. Good stuff. I’ll play it Saturday.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
the OLINE isn’t blocking well and DMAC can’t see where to tun. its that simple. the OLINE has to block man. not even 1 good run for DMAC in 2 games, that’s insane, this guy was busting 20 yard runs weekly last year and year before. This OLINE has to adjust and they haven’t yet.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
If the game starts 7-0 pitt, I’m going to take a Knapp.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Plus infinity ?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Knapp said the run game flourished in Atlanta, here, Seattle and Houston, when he was with those teams before rejoining the Raiders this season.
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Knapp was the OC is SF fron 01′ – 03′. they went #3 in scoring in 01′, 13th in scoring in 02′, and 9th in scoring in 03′
Knapp was OC in Atlanta from 04′ – 06′.
04′ Atl was 16th in scoring
05′ Atl was 14th in scoring
06′ Atl was 25th in scoring.\
Kanpp was OC in Oakland 07′ – 08′
07′ Oak was 23rd in scoring
08′ Oak was 29th in scoring
Knapp was OC in Seattle in 09′
09′ Sea was 25th in scoring
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
September 20th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Has BSJ been thru here yet, for his platter of crow, served with a large slice of humble pie?……..
September 20th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I’ve accepted that Knapp will be here for awhile. I don’t like it but what are we gonna do?
Reggie will not fire him after 2 games…or 3 or 4 so what else can we do but hope that our guys get it….at least somewhat.
If we get W’s…I don’t care how it gets done.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
If the game starts 7-0 pitt, I’m going to take a Knapp.
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I took a Knapp this morning…gotta stay regular you know.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Wow
September 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Has BSJ been thru here yet, for his platter of crow, served with a large slice of humble pie?……..
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I think he shot himself.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Dmac should be getting at least 2-3 good runs per game(10+ yards). I’m not seeing anything so far. its not McFadden for the most part.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Unfortunately by the grace of god we were born Raiders fans. It’s not our fault…we were just born that way. Oh well. Anyways……..
Raiders will go 0-4, during the bye week they will lick their wounds and come out firing bith six shooters in week 5. Finishing 10-6, from there my Nostridomis type predictions ended, I ran out of mushrooms.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
palmer struggled mightily in hu jacks explosive vertical offense,
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Huh? No he didn’t.
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9 starts 16 picks = severe struggles
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3 of those picks came in one game where he was not supposed to go in. If you take the last 8 games of the season Palmer was 5th in completion percentage, 6th in yards, 6th in TD’s and 4th in yards per attempt. That doesn’t sound like he was struggling to me.
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even if you magically wipe out the first game he played he was still a dismal 13 picks in 9 starts
struggling mightily
September 20th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
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Here’s a taste of a super hot track, this is all about how I stuff my Speedo with a frozen cucumber to win over a hot coed and the Junior swim meet
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How about you slip me your cell phone number?
Right after I stuff my Speedo with this frozen cucumber
September 20th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
You shouldn’t have done that Dawg. Now he will come back even more confused with even more meaningless stats that he will confuse with God knows what. It’s like handing a three year old a loaded .45
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Here’s a stat for you sissy…
Darren Mcfadden 2011 5.1 yds per carry.
Darren Mcfadden 2012 2.1 yds per carry.
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Darren Mcfadden 2010 5.2, 1157, 7 scores. Best season he has had as a pro. ZBS. Check mate.
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That’s weak….Mcfadden played in only 5 or 6 games last season…try again.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
3 of those picks came in one game where he was not supposed to go in. If you take the last 8 games of the season Palmer was 5th in completion percentage, 6th in yards, 6th in TD’s and 4th in yards per attempt. That doesn’t sound like he was struggling to me.
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even if you magically wipe out the first game he played he was still a dismal 13 picks in 9 starts
struggling mightily
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Didn’t Eli Manning throw 3 picks in his last game? He also threw for over 500 yards. Hard to use just one stat to judge a player.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Best Corkran write-up ever?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
our secondary vs the pitt passing game is a recipe for disaster. I dont see one player that can match up with wallace, and brown. we are not getting natural pressure which means you must blitz exposing an already severely diminished secondary.
Also if palmer has another r,miserable 1-12 3rd down performance we will be blown out before the first quarter ends, similar to the game last year in gb
September 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Interesting there isn’t more criticism of Reggie. I mean, why Knapp? Just who do you think Reggie is going to replace Knapp with? Steve Spurrier? Some 90% pass play caller out of the SEC? He’s going to replace him with another guy who fits their system, which is ball control. There will still be graveling amongst the fans.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
llivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
I’m in support of Knapp. Want to give this system at least one season. I get what he’s doing. It’s a system built on ball control more than the quick strike, which is what I want.
But here’s my problem with Knapp:
If we’re going to run a WCO, we need to get to those short yardage situations. The whole point of the west coast is to get down to 2nd and short, 3rd and short, etc. If you constantly find yourself at 3rd and long, your WCO is one huge fail. If you have the talent to run a deep passing offense (I don’t think we have the receivers or the line), then third and long is fine. But it’s no spot to be in if your system is a variation of the west coast offense. I want to see Knapp getting us down to 2nd, 3rd and short situations more often. Too many 3rd and longs.
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Of course you do. Knapp knows as much as scoring points as you about…well, anything.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I say fuc the whole run game, runs screens.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Please stop with the obsession of discrediting Palmer. Fine. He threw too many int’s last yr. but he is NOT the problem this yr.
He has even missed too many open guys THIS year. He needs to get better. I’m a big Palmer guy and even I am a bit disappointed.
Let’s focus on what’s really wrong with the team.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
3 of those picks came in one game where he was not supposed to go in. If you take the last 8 games of the season Palmer was 5th in completion percentage, 6th in yards, 6th in TD’s and 4th in yards per attempt. That doesn’t sound like he was struggling to me.
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even if you magically wipe out the first game he played he was still a dismal 13 picks in 9 starts
struggling mightily
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Didn’t Eli Manning throw 3 picks in his last game? He also threw for over 500 yards. Hard to use just one stat to judge a player.
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stop it bra, we are not talking about a 1 game performance we are talking about his season last year which was putrid. Eli did not have more ints the picks last year, palmer did in fact palmer nearly had a 2-1 int to td ratio.
these two cant ever be compared, one is a superbowl champ 2x over, the other is leading a team straight to double digit losses
September 20th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Please stop with the obsession of discrediting Palmer. Fine. He threw too many int’s last yr. but he is NOT the problem this yr.
He has even missed too many open guys THIS year. He needs to get better. I’m a big Palmer guy and even I am a bit disappointed.
Let’s focus on what’s really wrong with the team.
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actually i was saying that he is playing better than last year.
Another poster here got caught up in the fact that i pointed out how he stunk in hu jacks system throwing a whopping 16 picks in nine starts
September 20th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Knapp’s offense is ranked 15th. Still one of the better offenses in the league. Down from 9th last year. 9th of course is good, but it’s not top tier. Combine that with Knapp having only had 2 games? Think his critics are hitting the panic button too soon.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
stop it bra, we are not talking about a 1 game performance we are talking about his season last year which was putrid.
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No dude, we’re talking about one stat. You could say a Q threw 10 int’s or 100 int’s but if he did other things, that offsets that. Palmer has thrown one pick in two games. We also have two losses. I want to talk about winning football.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
our secondary vs the pitt passing game is a recipe for disaster. I dont see one player that can match up with wallace, and brown. we are not getting natural pressure which means you must blitz exposing an already severely diminished secondary.
Also if palmer has another r,miserable 1-12 3rd down performance we will be blown out before the first quarter ends, similar to the game last year in gb
>> and unfortunately i can’t refute anything you’ve said here. i have Wallace on my fantasy and like Reggie Bush last week, i expect Wallace to have a Big game for me
September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
With our offense being ranked 15th right now, it tells me it’s just a bad year for NFL offenses, and that this NFL season could be, offensively, a competition amongst the “lesser of the evils”, if you will. Knapp’s doing horrible. Then again, so is most of the league.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I’ll tell you what, it certainly seems somebody is reading this blog, or the petitions or something.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
“Let’s keep things in perspective for a second here,” Knapp said. “We’ve played two games in the regular season on offense. We’ve had two different centers and a right tackle who played half a game last week. We need some patience.
“You can’t develop a scheme in two weeks in a regular season, especially when last week we faced the No. 3-ranked rush defense from 2011 and the week before they held the number two rush offense in the league to 2.4 yards per carry, the Houston Texans. That was a good team we faced last week. The scheme will be fine. It just takes some time.” – knapp
this may be true but it is also an excuse, you have been installing this since the off season, it isnt just the last two weeks.
Knapp isnt very good, but the players are also not performing
failing grades all the way around
September 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Instead of defending their “system” against criticism, i’d rather have them say ‘Hey, if somethings not working we’re not dumb enough to keep doing it. We’re gonna gameplan with the goal of winning the game……. period; and if it means scrapping some plays we would normally run in the “system” we will go with other options. Whatever it takes to win the game”.
How’s that for an option?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
113,
All I hear in those Knapp comments is excuses.
I love it when coaches …after getting their azz beat in consecutive weeks….come back with “let’s keep this in perspective”.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
“I still have confidence in it, and most guys still have confidence in it,” Carlisle said.
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hmmm so some guys are not in? well this happens when you scrap the players and schemes that worked for something that isnt.
Hu jack, D.A why fix what wasnt broken…..oh well
And some people wished davis dead.
are you happy now?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
krappy is starting to panic…”be patient” asthe losses mount…dvd goid at special teams? how has reggie improved ours? you can bet ben is getting ready to do to our secondary as he did to that girl.,,
September 20th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
With our offense being ranked 15th right now, it tells me it’s just a bad year for NFL offenses, and that this NFL season could be, offensively, a competition amongst the “lesser of the evils”, if you will. Knapp’s doing horrible. Then again, so is most of the league.
>> its panic time, 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs. 15th in YARDS is meaningless, Raiders are 31st in scoring.
September 20th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I’ll tell you what, it certainly seems somebody is reading this blog, or the petitions or something.
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No chit’
September 20th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Any of you around a few years ago when KrappyRat told everyone he was a “Blog Personality”?
That was around the time he had all these goofy pictures up on his website of his shiny red Corvette and the old fool standing on a hill in Switzerland
Hilarious stuff, mad props to the good ol days
September 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
– Steelers coach Mike Tomlin coached against Palmer twice a year from 2007-10, so he has a pretty good take on Palmer’s skill set.
Even though Tomlin’s Steelers haven’t faced Palmer since 2010, he said: “He looks like Carson. He’s highly accurate, he’s very good in play-pass. He can turn his back to the defense and come up throwing, he has better mobility than people give him credit for. He’s a competitor. Got a great deal of respect for Carson Palmer.”
Palmer went 4-8 against the Steelers during his tenure with the Cincinnati Bengals.
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empty lip service from the super pc head coach
tomlin and the curtain have owned captain bungles
this could get ugly fast
September 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Greg Knapp has been here RECENTLY. that’s good at least the guy pays attention and doesn’t see himself as GOD
September 20th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
@Mistic1
So if a miracle happens and the Raiders win and Palmer has a good game, you buying a Palmer Jersey?
September 20th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Yeah, typical company line from Allen and Knapp…”patience”
Have patience at the expense of LOSING football games.
Has anyone asked Allen and Knapp why the successful offensive system that was ran here the two years was changed this season for no apparent legit reason??
Someone….ANYONE needs to ask Allen and Knapp why they tried to fix a system that wasn’t broken.
Knapp making stupid excuses for his failure his hilarious.
Patience my azz….it’s about scoring TD’s and winning….NOW…not in 3 years!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Instead of defending their “system” against criticism, i’d rather have them say ‘Hey, if somethings not working we’re not dumb enough to keep doing it. We’re gonna gameplan with the goal of winning the game……. period; and if it means scrapping some plays we would normally run in the “system” we will go with other options. Whatever it takes to win the game”.
How’s that for an option?
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
113,
All I hear in those Knapp comments is excuses.
I love it when coaches …after getting their azz beat in consecutive weeks….come back with “let’s keep this in perspective”.
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Exactly!
It’s terrible!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
The problem is you can’t just take a team which is famous for not being disciplined and expect them to run some intricate system. My gosh, take it one step at a time.
“PATIENCE”??? “PATIENCE”??? How about being “patient” with a team that hasn’t even grasped the fundamentals of discipline at the line of scrimmage. Take it one step at a time. Be “PATIENT” and GRADUALLY install a new intricate and complicated system.
Talk about being IMPATIENT…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
valleyflyin Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Knapp’s biggest problem is is lack of adjustments. When something doesn’t work… he keeps doing the same thing over and over.
He does not play to the strengths of this team.
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Sign of a terrible coach and play caller!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
@Mistic1
So if a miracle happens and the Raiders win and Palmer has a good game, you buying a Palmer Jersey?
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never but i will congratulate him for the biggest win of his raiders tenure to date.
In fact palmer only needs to replicate what he has done over the last two weeks, but be better on 3rd down.
This wont be enough to win but at least he wont be the main reason for the loss, and can show proof that he is continuing to evolve as a game manager
September 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I would rock a palmer jersey.
You can’t knock his leadership & effort and he has always been dedicated to his teamates. He is on pace for a 5,000 yard season FYI.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
valleyflyin Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Knapp’s biggest problem is is lack of adjustments. When something doesn’t work… he keeps doing the same thing over and over.
He does not play to the strengths of this team.
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Sounds a lot like Al Davis.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
DJ Johnny…..
I hope he didn’t take it to that extreme..I was just curious if he’s been here since Goethel (sp?) was thrown off the deep end, without any lessons..I don’t get to have very much semi-pro time lately…..
Maybe he went to Ohio, to try and throw off his scent from the hounds…Last place you’d look for a “Michigan man”.. Right?…..
September 20th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
patience?!?!?! in football?!?!??! not in todays world. not when you have kids like luck rgIII newton and wilson producing instant wins.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
BSJ has gone off the deep end, I fear.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
palmer is getting garbage stats. he’s throwing shorter passes and not throwin INTs now but only 27 points in 2 games? Palmer isn’t doing much
September 20th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Knapp meant to say” don’t worry by week 18 this system will be working fine”
September 20th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
it’s just frustrating because with AS as OC this team would win this division. this struggling is completely unnecessary. this team was in the AFC west hunt for the first time in years. raider fans can’t keep putting up with this garbage. will this team make the playoffs THIS decade? i don’t even know
September 20th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Offense will play well this week. Defense is another matter:
Steelers 35
Raiders 24
September 20th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Offense will play well this week. Defense is another matter:
Steelers 35
Raiders 24
>> sounds about right. this will be Super Bowl for OAK.but the Steelers will still win it. just a better team
September 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I would rock a palmer jersey.
You can’t knock his leadership & effort and he has always been dedicated to his teamates. He is on pace for a 5,000 yard season FYI.
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disagree,
he wanted players traded and coaches fired in cicny. he went to mike brown with his jlo diva-esque list of demands, and when brown shot him down he quit.
not exactly what i would call dedication, leadership or being a good teammate.
here in oakland ha has thrown temper tantrums on the sideline avoided taking responsibility after piss poor play, and even trashed dhb in front of the world.
I will agree he looks good when he is on, but he is more of a physical talent than a mentally tough leader.
he has the mental fortitude of a jelly fish
September 20th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
it’s just frustrating because with AS as OC this team would win this division. this struggling is completely unnecessary. this team was in the AFC west hunt for the first time in years. raider fans can’t keep putting up with this garbage. will this team make the playoffs THIS decade? i don’t even know
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Yep! THAT is the problem.
Why try and fix something that wasn’t broken on the offensive side of the football??
McK and Allen dropped the ball on that one and they didn’t evaluate the strengths of the offense raionally or properly.
Utterly TERRIBLE!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I would rock a palmer jersey.
You can’t knock his leadership & effort and he has always been dedicated to his teamates. He is on pace for a 5,000 yard season FYI.
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disagree,
he wanted players traded and coaches fired in cicny. he went to mike brown with his jlo diva-esque list of demands, and when brown shot him down he quit.
not exactly what i would call dedication, leadership or being a good teammate.
here in oakland ha has thrown temper tantrums on the sideline avoided taking responsibility after piss poor play, and even trashed dhb in front of the world.
I will agree he looks good when he is on, but he is more of a physical talent than a mentally tough leader.
he has the mental fortitude of a jelly fish
>> Palmer is getting hammered every time he throws. hes back peddling every pass. mental toughness isn’t the issue. issue is that Palmer isn’t an elite QB and thats what THIS team would need to compete.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Doesn’t matter what “system” you run if the guys/players aren’t executing it well.
Relax fellas, it’s not the end of the world. It’s NOT Art Shell and Tom Walsh part 3.
Although that no backup long snapper was a HUGE whiff on the rookie HC and his new (old) special teams coord….
September 20th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I would rock a palmer jersey.
You can’t knock his leadership & effort and he has always been dedicated to his teamates. He is on pace for a 5,000 yard season FYI.
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disagree,
he wanted players traded and coaches fired in cicny. he went to mike brown with his jlo diva-esque list of demands, and when brown shot him down he quit.
not exactly what i would call dedication, leadership or being a good teammate.
here in oakland ha has thrown temper tantrums on the sideline avoided taking responsibility after piss poor play, and even trashed dhb in front of the world.
I will agree he looks good when he is on, but he is more of a physical talent than a mentally tough leader.
he has the mental fortitude of a jelly fish
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riiiiiighhhtttt???
well your enititled to your opinion, I think Palmer will have a great year and will be Top 3 QB in the AFC.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Palmer is in a tough spot, he must continue trying to be a game manger, and he clearly is no longer a play maker. palmer needs everything around him to be perfect for him to be effective.
When you have a 3-5 step drop but the defense gets quick penetration the qb in a wco must be nimble enough to avoid the rush, this is the reason most wco teams have a mobile qb historically.
palmer isnt that kind of play maker, he is much better following the design of the play, and struggles when he has to improvise.
The bad thing is if he is being a game manger and the team loses, he will take the fall for not being a play maker. If he goes gun slinger again he will get trashed for being sloppy with the ball.
he is in a bit of a no win situation
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ZBS will work out just fine. Won’t be surprised if it clicks this week.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Stats are meaningless right now. Palmer throws for 373 yards and only gets in the end zone ONCE? this offense is crap and Palmer is getting garbage stats right now. 27 points in 2 games. ridiculous
September 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ZBS will work out just fine. Won’t be surprised if it clicks this week.
>> it better work and the raiders better win or the season is OVER
September 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
sup Nation, can we pull off a win vs. pittsburgh this sunday? I still have hope…
lmfao @ this article, patience, wtf ever knapp. Show us some victories, we’ll show you some patience. Sounds fair to me.
“Every place I’ve been to, it’s important that we find out, a guy with that kind of talent, what’s his comfort zone and what plays we like to do,”
BULLSH!T, he may have asked, but he sure as hell didnt listen.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Palmer has plenty of room for improvement. He’s missed some throws, both with inaccuracy or poor timing but he is not the biggest issue thus far.
I’d like to see them run some no huddle now and again. Got to try and establish your will and tempo at SOME point…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I still can’t believe people who get paid to make the right football decisions can utterly fail to evaluate and realize not to mess with the strengths of a football team and just fix the weaknesses of a football team.
Big mistake by McK and Allen!
Heck, it could already be debated that McK made a mistake by getting rid of Hue so quickly and hiring a young 39 year old coach to replace him.
3 different head coaches in 3 years is utterly RIDICULOUS!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
well your enititled to your opinion, I think Palmer will have a great year and will be Top 3 QB in the AFC.
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I totally agree!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
but it is a tom walsh and art shell offense…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ZBS will work out just fine. Won’t be surprised if it clicks this week.
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Nope. The Steelers D will eat that weak azz Knapp ZBS scheme alive this week and he better hope DMC doesn’t get hurt because of it.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I’m watching the pregame show and they just ran a promo for Sundays steelers/ raiders game and the choice adjective used was the “lowly” raiders. Now Even though the Raids have blown goat the first 2 games, do they think that the average fan will tune in to see a “lowly” team? Strange I thought.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ZBS will work out just fine. Won’t be surprised if it clicks this week.
^^^^^^^
Nope. The Steelers D will eat that weak azz Knapp ZBS scheme alive this week and he better hope DMC doesn’t get hurt because of it.
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Steelers are banged up and old. Knapps offense is going to eat them up Sunday. Mcfadden probably have 150 yards rushing.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/48733/schefter-believes-in-oakland-in-week-3
September 20th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Raiders are going backwards.. like back to the 07-08 seasons.
Kiffen 2.0. and if u really want to nit pick why wasnt allen wearing any Raider gear at his monday presser? looked like he was on his way to junior high with a sears polo tucked in
September 20th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Allen did have to do some convincing to get Knapp back here.. said he was hesitant too.. but they payed a big contract too come back.
I really dont like the way this offense is heading. Nevermind the ZBS.. lets talk KNapp as a play caller. Boring, Predictable, and D knows whats coming
September 20th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Top 5 AFC QBs:
1)Tom Brady
2)Big Ben
3)Joe Flaco
4)Carson Palmer
5)Phillip Rivers
September 20th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I agree raiders have 125 yards in first qaurter after only 64 first. 2 games bank on it
September 20th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I really think Palmer is going to have a great year.
and I think Moore is going to go ape-sht Sunday.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
This sunday will tell me alot about how hard this team plays for Allen
Back is already up against the wall.. alot of outside noise to win.. I know allen / knapp already feeling the pressure
I love it when ppl discredit what hue did. Im sure we are all gonna enjoy allen /knapp show. Bottom line is its 50/50 if it worksout. By then it could be too late.
Hue had team utalizing its talent it had to work with
Like i said HUE was without DMAC, FORD, DMOORE in MIA.. was with a new qb on the fly .. and was stuck with a DCORD he did want and a team going through changes in a few weeks.
ALLEN/KNAPP would have been done..
September 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I don’t know what to say about this…..
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/8-old-completely-steamrolls-entire-defense-during-youth-175928538.html
September 20th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
This place does have its share of cliff jumpers.
Although with the Raiders last 10 yr record I guess you can’t blame them…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Huge Jackson lost the team and lost 4 out the last 5 games to whiff on a playoff spot.
Tired of hearing that carp…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
of course shefter believs he is a sonkey at heart(zbs)…so does schlereth and tom jackson…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Knapp loves watching Shane Lechlar punt.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Top 5 AFC QBs:
1)Tom Brady
2)Big Ben
3)Joe Flaco
4)Carson Palmer
5)Phillip Rivers
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afc according to ACTUAL STATS
1. rivers
2. rothlesburger
3. sanchez
4. brady.
5. schuab
6. dalton
7. flacco
8.manning
9. fitzpatrick
10. gabbert
11. PALMER
12. cassel
13. locker
14.luck
15.tanny hill
16. weeden
not good but improved over last year
September 20th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Im tiring of ppl forgetting that hue has the team in posistion for a playoff spot all while stuck with a UFL CORD and assistants he did not want. All without the best players. like DMAC. Still put up 26 points the last game of season.
Chiefs game players were playing hard for him.. Deep passes to DMOORE for TD and Pass in OT to DHB .. SPECIAL TEAMS touchdown that was called back. U think Knapp is gonna get that creative ?? LOL Tired of people thinking hue didnt deserve another shot. So allen is gonna go 4-12 this season but yes he needs time. Where was hue’s time? Last year was our rebuilding year. LOL 3 years its gonna take now
September 20th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Who has two thumbs and is excited for the season premier of The Office tonight? This guy!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
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Here’s another thing that irritates me about Knapp to no end…He is ALWAYS referencing the Houston Freaking Texans like they are multiple SB winners…Listen to ANY ONE of the archived interviews from this guy and he never fails to reference his association with them. As if he has to remind of his greatness..lest we forget..
Oooooooh. Houston Texans??? You mean the guys who we BEAT on your home field last yr.? Ooooooohhhhh.
So sick of this dik dropping the great Texan name on us every dam time.
“Houston this, Houston that”. “You do realize I came from Houston don’t you”.
And he always says it with that smug, condescending smirk on his face too.
F this schmuck.
I think he expects us to all bow down and thank him for coming here form such a superior organization.
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And on top of that, we best Houston last year.
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Wow. Truth
September 20th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
It continues to surprise me how much us couch riding fans think we know more about the game than those actually coaching it. I know it is the right of the fan to get on blogs like this to rant about this or that when our team is losing without regard for perspective or logic. The coaches and GM came into a very difficult position with no salary cap space and limited draft picks, none in the first two rounds. The reality is our Raiders are not very talented, there are less than a handful of playmakers on offense and no impact makers on the defense. There was no depth at all to survive any injuries. The run game can’t function well regardless of the scheme when you have your starting center out most of camp along with two of your top receievers which leaves you with no threats on the outside. Teams can play defense downhill within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. You have to hope that a healthier Moore and Wiz can make some difference because this team is going to have to grind all year. Getting rid of coaches and not allowing coaches to implement schemes has been the experience for over 10 years and where did that get the Raiders. So yes though its going to suck to do patience is needed. We need to for once think about building for the long term not just a dillusional playoff season.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
yeah stupid people in here saying it takes three years to win….this is year 3!
September 20th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I’m concerned about our lack of production on offense, knapps predictable playcalling and our continued inability to stop the run. Dmac just doesnt look like the same player in this retarded system. With all that, my biggest concern is our inability to cover ANYONE…I wasnt crazy about our two “starting cbs” bartell and spencer, scrubs imo…but now we have who? lee and hanson? we are facing big ben. matt ryan, peyton manning (twice), phillip rivers, drew brees, and joe flacco, not mention cam newton and josh freeman, all have at least one excellent wideout to throw to…from what i saw against san diego and miami, we’re in for a long year even if our offense starts to click, we’ll have to put up 40 to win. PROVE ME WRONG TARVER AND THE RAIDER D
September 20th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Hope Knapp took some notes just now, watching Eli and the Giants carve the Panthers….
Instead, I bet he’s still trying to put some “perspective” into his run, run, dink then punt. “Scheme” of his….
September 20th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Bob Wylie was on sirius radio last night and said DMAC favorite runs are to the outside.. and pitches.. and sweeps.
Said DMAC is to fast for the ZBS and said just give him the ball to the outside because he is fast enough to run around the whole defense. He is right. Look at what he did the jets last season.
However ZBS is not going anywhere cuz Allen is not gonna admit he made a mistake changing the offense.
KNAPP wants paitence huh?? LOL NFL = NOT FOR LONG ask hue about it
September 20th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
KNAPP wants paitence huh?? LOL NFL = NOT FOR LONG ask hue about it
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Reggie is patient fellow.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
http://youtu.be/2_EfrlBBH7Y
Check out that h/l from week 3 of jets last season. DMAC gives u a glimpse of what he was doing for 6 weeks last season. Virtually the same OLINE. VELDHERE, WIZ, Cooper the company man Carlie.. Barnes ok.
WE will be lucky to sniff a 15 yard run in the next 6 weeks
September 20th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Meanwhile, I see the Panthers’ starting RT is injured, so Campbell was activated for the game…but he’s still not starting.
“Beast” Campbell indeed…
September 20th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Jaysohn Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
It continues to surprise me how much us couch riding fans think we know more about the game than those actually coaching it. I know it is the right of the fan to get on blogs like this to rant about this or that when our team is losing without regard for perspective or logic. The coaches and GM came into a very difficult position with no salary cap space and limited draft picks, none in the first two rounds. The reality is our Raiders are not very talented, there are less than a handful of playmakers on offense and no impact makers on the defense. There was no depth at all to survive any injuries. The run game can’t function well regardless of the scheme when you have your starting center out most of camp along with two of your top receievers which leaves you with no threats on the outside. Teams can play defense downhill within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. You have to hope that a healthier Moore and Wiz can make some difference because this team is going to have to grind all year. Getting rid of coaches and not allowing coaches to implement schemes has been the experience for over 10 years and where did that get the Raiders. So yes though its going to suck to do patience is needed. We need to for once think about building for the long term not just a dillusional playoff season.
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good post, dont agree with all of it, but you make some good points. Fans are watching a team that was on the brink of a playoff run for the last two years look like sh!t. Yes we lack talent at many positions and yes it was a hard situation for the new coach and gm to step into. Coaches arent the ones playing and the players must take blame for not executing, however, this team is better than the product DA and knappy are putting on the field, dont you think?
September 20th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
quit giving reggie excuses….he sux, picks or no picks….and the texans have never done anything in the postseason…each year theyarepicked to go to thesuper bowl and each year they choke….
September 20th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
hopefully mark and amy will see the money loss and not for long reggie….
September 20th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
guys hue was a talented offensive mind, and a motivator, but he made unpardonable blunders that cost him his job.
1.discarding the back bone , team leader, that he appointed. This nearly caused a locker room mutiny
2. gong all in with carson plamer, when it was known that davis sr vetoed the idea in the pre season. Painted the raiders into a corner and the returns have not been nearly worth the investment
3. benched our most productive wr DHB and boss in what appeared to be a puntive move based on the players being upset with how the captain jc was dumped in favor of hu jacks buddy palmer
4. signed tj off the street, who upon signing quickly insulted the rest of the wr group and failed meiserably on the field even thogh he was some how elevated above dhb in the rotation.
5. failing to bench romac
6. claimed he wanted more power, insinuating that the front office didnt know what they were doing.
7. threw players under the buss in public after a loss
8. threw coaches under the buss after the season ending loss
these things made hu jack untrustworthy in the eyes of the players, and the front office. It also cost him gigs in other places which is why he ended up being a db coach, despite his supreme offensive play calling and game planning acumen.
Nobody wants this dude around
September 20th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
quit giving reggie excuses….he sux, picks or no picks….and the texans have never done anything in the postseason…each year theyarepicked to go to thesuper bowl and each year they choke….
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Come on man! It is way too early to judge Reggie or any of the coaches. Reggie is going to be hell of a good GM.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I keep hearing that. Based on what? fact is its 50/50 if mckenzie / allen work.
we could be 4-12 next season or 6-10
September 20th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Come on man! It is way too early to judge Reggie or any of the coaches. Reggie is going to be hell of a good GM.
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Don’t feed the trolls.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
We’re not 0-2. We didn’t just get humiliated by what was at the time the concesus worst team in the league…no no no, we’re just not looking at it in the correct “perspective”.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
We’re not 0-2. We didn’t just get humiliated by what was at the time the concesus worst team in the league…no no no, we’re just not looking at it in the correct “perspective”.
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Relax. It’ll get better (it HAS to, if only by default).
September 20th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The two most exciting HC’s we have had in the last 10 years. JON GRUDEN. HUE JACKSON. Hey i know lets get rid of em SMH
September 20th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
The two most exciting HC’s we have had in the last 10 years. JON GRUDEN. HUE JACKSON. Hey i know lets get rid of em SMH
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Letting Gruden go was a mistake, no doubt. You want to go down to the Chapel of Chimes and yell at man responsible, be my guest.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Bottom line. REggie MCKENZIE didn NOT want to FIRE HUE. REggie MCKENZIE was under the impression that he already had a HC when coming to his INTRO PRESSER (HUE) he was under the impression that all he had to do was find a DC. It wasnt till he got to the facility that MARK informed him he had to fire HUE. WOW
MARK DID. THE answer is right here
http://youtu.be/-oryX23CqjM
September 20th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
The question is not if the ZBS can work. It definitely can. It’s worked for years for various teams. The question is whether it was the right decision for this team, the talent here and whether the players are properly executing.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Y’all watching the Giants here?
Missing starting Running Back and Receiver…
So insert Ramses Bardon and this Brown guy at running back.
Guys making plays and moving the ball.
Can DHB make some MEANINGFUL catches this week?
September 20th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Mistic,
Good post on Hue. He also somewhat threw Al Davis under the bus too.
“Al controlled everything….blah, blah blah”
I am glad Hue was released. His teams played like utter trash down the stretch
September 20th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Ok according to that video and henry woorford.. it was the last game of the season that did HUE in. Especially his post game presser.
Mark Davis met with some of the players after the game and they expressed to him that they didnt like HUE as their head coach. What a f’n joke. Why cuz HUE had balls to call u guys out and he was gonna get rid of the underachievers. I wonder what players Mark Met with. I bet one was Jacoby ford still pissed about the campbell thing. He is also the guy who slipped on the rout for that last PALMER INT
September 20th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Bottom line. REggie MCKENZIE didn NOT want to FIRE HUE. REggie MCKENZIE was under the impression that he already had a HC when coming to his INTRO PRESSER (HUE) he was under the impression that all he had to do was find a DC. It wasnt till he got to the facility that MARK informed him he had to fire HUE. WOW
MARK DID. THE answer is right here
http://youtu.be/-oryX23CqjM
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So it was the “freakish red headed spawn” who did the deed? I thought Hue said that Reggie gave him in the axe.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I wanna see the banner at the OCO Sunday…
‘let’s keep this in perspective people’.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Krapp is a loser.
He’ll still be making excuses and pleading for patience in Week 8.
After he’s fired, he’ll claim he just needed more time.
LOSER.
Can’t piss away precious time or games in the NFL. If switching to a new system requires more time than the off-season and pre-season to get down, and if you’re not going to be ready to go from Week 1, then that system shouldn’t be implemented. Especially when the one that was being used already was having success.
I can’t wait til this POS OC is sent packing.
From Carlisle’s comments we can gather there are some players that are not confident the ZBS will work here.
They’re probably right.
Even if they’re not, switching to a system that requires ‘patience’ and wasn’t ready to roll coming out of the gates wasn’t what this team needed.
Patience at the expense of pissing away a season doesn’t cut it.
The Nation has every right to be steaming mad and Krapp just doesn’t get it.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Look, I feel sick over Hue’s firing. I was in here for weeks prior to RM’s press conference that the Raiders should definitely keep Hue. When they fired him, I was shocked and disgusted and I feared all the progress we made would be lost. And that’s pretty much how it looks so far.
But the taste of last Sunday’s HORRIBLE loss is fading and I’m ready to hope for the best going forward. Not that there’s any reason to have faith in McKenzie, Allen or Knapp at this point. There’s been nothing to suggest the offense will suddenly click. But I’ll acknowledge that it can happen. That it can take time for the offense to click in the new scheme. It is too early to completely write off Knapp, the ZBS, etc. I’m not saying I expect things to suddenly work, but I suppose these guys deserve awhile longer to turn things around.
Doesn’t mean I’m “on board” with them or that I still don’t think it was a ridiculous, terrible decision to fire Hue, but there’s no sense in continuing to rip these guys day after day at this point. Of course, I may not feel that way Monday if we tank again, but for the moment I’m back in and hopeful we can get it going on Sunday.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
How would the Steeler fanbase, their local media, and ESPN react to the results on the field and the accompanying pressers explaing to be “patient”?
Honest question.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
the Steelers aren’t expected to have the services of linebacker James Harrison and safety Troy Polamalu
“attack this defense” ??
this will bethe coming out party for Knapp, Palmer, McFadden and our O-Line
September 20th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
JLofty Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Huge Jackson lost the team and lost 4 out the last 5 games to whiff on a playoff spot.
Tired of hearing that carp…
^^^^^^^^
You remember who the DC was?? Some clown named Chuck B.
If Hue would have had a REAL DC…the Raiders would have went 12-4.
Your one of those who still don’t get it do you?
Hue still had this team within 1 game of the clinching the division with losing the legendary owner/gm in Al and then losing Campbell and DMC for half of the year.
The defense blew it with games vs Buffalo, 2nd Denver game, Detroit game and 2nd Charger game!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Bottom line. REggie MCKENZIE didn NOT want to FIRE HUE. REggie MCKENZIE was under the impression that he already had a HC when coming to his INTRO PRESSER (HUE) he was under the impression that all he had to do was find a DC. It wasnt till he got to the facility that MARK informed him he had to fire HUE. WOW
MARK DID. THE answer is right here
http://youtu.be/-oryX23CqjM
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So it was the “freakish red headed spawn” who did the deed? I thought Hue said that Reggie gave him in the axe.
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No. Hue said it was Mark Davis’ call. That was Mike Silver’s take. And Cork has noted in chats and I believe on Twitter that he has it on good authority that it was Mark and not McKenzie who fired Hue.
During Reggie’s press conference though, Mark very clearly stated that it was Reggie’s decision. Who knows for sure. Kind of shady.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Patience is something you practice with children. You don’t practice patience in the pros.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Mullet Mark is a spineless slob…
Not surprised he hired Reggie to do his dirty work, cause Mark sesn’t seem interested in working at all…the 1 interview of Reggie was evidence of that.
As far as Mumbles goes, there is NO Zevidence to prove he is going to be a ‘Darn good GM’..I’ll let him earn his review before I annoint him anything more than Mullets Boy…
September 20th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
the Steelers aren’t expected to have the services of linebacker James Harrison and safety Troy Polamalu
“attack this defense” ??
this will bethe coming out party for Knapp, Palmer, McFadden and our O-Line
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I like the enthusiasism, but I doubt it.
If the team fights all the way for 4 quarters and keeps it close despite having a crappy Knappy offense, then it will be a miracle.
The D needs to get to Ben and cause some turnovers for this team to have a chance to win.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Patience at the expense of pissing away a season doesn’t cut it.
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EXACTLY!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Bottom line. REggie MCKENZIE didn NOT want to FIRE HUE. REggie MCKENZIE was under the impression that he already had a HC when coming to his INTRO PRESSER (HUE) he was under the impression that all he had to do was find a DC. It wasnt till he got to the facility that MARK informed him he had to fire HUE. WOW
MARK DID. THE answer is right here
http://youtu.be/-oryX23CqjM
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So it was the “freakish red headed spawn” who did the deed? I thought Hue said that Reggie gave him in the axe.
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No. Hue said it was Mark Davis’ call. That was Mike Silver’s take. And Cork has noted in chats and I believe on Twitter that he has it on good authority that it was Mark and not McKenzie who fired Hue.
During Reggie’s press conference though, Mark very clearly stated that it was Reggie’s decision. Who knows for sure. Kind of shady.
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Mark hired Reggie and they talked about getting rid of Hue and Reggie said yes.
Mark then tells his new GM to do his dirty work.
It’s true.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Patience at the expense of pissing away a season doesn’t cut it.
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EXACTLY!
^^^^^^^^
Yup!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
TURNOVERS!!! We don’t need no stinkin turnovers, we’re happy to give 12 yd cushions on 3rd & 6′…don’t try and make a play, just let them methodically work their way downfield so it takes them longer to score…PATHETIC approach on D.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
The thing that kills me is we look just like the Raiders from a few years ago, led by that scrub jamarcus russel and an unproven rookie dmac. Back then we had NO talent, except for #21, now we have enough talent on offense to get things done. We proved it the last two years. The only similarity between that team and the 2012 Raiders…Greg Knapp…I can give DA a chance even though he hired the scrub, I can give Tarver a chance, he doesnt have much talent to work with, and I can give reggie a chance, even though he signed arena league nickel corners to be our starting dbs and also allowed knapp in….but I hate knapps guts, he’s not an nfl quality OC, he’s proved it time and time again. Houston is good, he wasn’t the OC, he was the QB coach there, he’s sh!t. All of the progress this team has made on offense in the last two years, sh!t on by this fcking nobody. Before knapp was hired I assumed we would win games by outscoring our opponents and overcoming our still weak but improved defense. Then I hear we hired knapp, but Im thinking ok i dont like this but this time he has some talent to build on…so much for all that. Weak defense + weak offense = 2-14.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
IS THE HUE HORSE STILL DEAD,OR DOES IT NEED MORE BEATING…
September 20th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Dip idiot Mark Davis ends up doing something stupid by forcing McK to fire Hue.
Now the franchise takes a step back from the development of the last two years!
The old man Al was probably rolling in his grave when his son decided to fire Hue!
Terrible!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
The thing that kills me is we look just like the Raiders from a few years ago, led by that scrub jamarcus russel and an unproven rookie dmac. Back then we had NO talent, except for #21, now we have enough talent on offense to get things done. We proved it the last two years. The only similarity between that team and the 2012 Raiders…Greg Knapp…I can give DA a chance even though he hired the scrub, I can give Tarver a chance, he doesnt have much talent to work with, and I can give reggie a chance, even though he signed arena league nickel corners to be our starting dbs and also allowed knapp in….but I hate knapps guts, he’s not an nfl quality OC, he’s proved it time and time again. Houston is good, he wasn’t the OC, he was the QB coach there, he’s sh!t. All of the progress this team has made on offense in the last two years, sh!t on by this fcking nobody. Before knapp was hired I assumed we would win games by outscoring our opponents and overcoming our still weak but improved defense. Then I hear we hired knapp, but Im thinking ok i dont like this but this time he has some talent to build on…so much for all that. Weak defense + weak offense = 2-14.
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Yep!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Mullet Mark is a spineless slob…
Not surprised he hired Reggie to do his dirty work, cause Mark sesn’t seem interested in working at all…the 1 interview of Reggie was evidence of that.
As far as Mumbles goes, there is NO Zevidence to prove he is going to be a ‘Darn good GM’..I’ll let him earn his review before I annoint him anything more than Mullets Boy…
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I must say, that’s a lot of hate. Do you mean it?
September 20th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
All these Reggie lovers are so full of sht! Patience??? AAAAAAA HAAAAAAA.This is the NFL! Patience doesnt exist. Reggie blew it right off the bat. He’s an idiot.The first 2 games werent even close.Patience. Na,fire this retarded bottom lip fkface.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Told you, once Atrociously Monte kicked BigMac in the nutz, soon enough, here comes the moronic scientist to clean up on aisle 3.
It’s getting clearer by the minute of why Steve Wiz left his beloved team, couldn’t deal with this moron and the OL coach.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
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September 20th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
zopi Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Told you, once Atrociously Monte kicked BigMac in the nutz, soon enough, here comes the moronic scientist to clean up on aisle 3.
It’s getting clearer by the minute of why Steve Wiz left his beloved team, couldn’t deal with this moron and the OL coach
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Agreed! Now we know why Big Wiz left.
He saw the writing on the wall and knew Allen, Knapp and Pollack are turds!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Reggie fired Hue.Did anybody here watch the press con? Are you saying that both our GM and owner are lyers? I love listening to all these guys who think they have inside info.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
DUUUUU,I wanted my guy. Duhhhhhh drip.Wipes bottom lip.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Before knapp was hired I assumed we would win games by outscoring our opponents and overcoming our still weak but improved defense.
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I think that’s what most of us were hoping for.
Now it seems fairly obvious that the offense under Knapp has regressed horribly and although the defensive scheme appears noticeably better, the decimated CB situation will not allow for improvement on defense.
If Krapp and the O don’t get going, 2-14 is a very realistic possibility.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Reggie is a bigfoot isnt he Gus? And his children are bigfeet too.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
GOONY GOO GOO.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Reggie is a bigfoot isnt he Gus? And his children are bigfeet too.
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Where’s all this dumbschit coming from? Spite?
September 20th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Reggie is a bigfoot isnt he Gus? And his children are bigfeet too.
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Where’s all this dumbschit coming from? Spite? Troll?
September 20th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
If Krapp and the O don’t get going, 2-14 is a very realistic possibility.
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Thats why we can only hope that DA and/or management admits they fcked up and give playcalling duties to Saunders…the sooner the better, maybe 0-4 will wake some ppl up.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
VICTORY FOR US!!! KNAPP GOT THE MEMO! NOW LETS SEE WHAT HE DOES WITH IT!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
If Knapp’s interview is the mindset of DA and Reggie also then the season is OVER. Done
September 20th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
If your not a Reggie lover around here,your a troll.Dumbest fkn raider fans in the world are on this blog!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
patience?!!? patience?!!? What phu cking NFL does this guy work for? patience my a $$!!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
GOONY GOO GOO
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I haven’t hear that in years. Trip.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Anyways, back to the game.
We need to get to Ben, sack him, if you force that guy out of the pocket, that is exactly what he likes. If we don’t get to Ben, we are in for an ugly day…..
September 20th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Raiders have an incompetent owner, GM, and OC.
Complete DumbFunks. Forcing a scheme on players it does not fit. Frickin GED coaching. Even pee wee football coaches know better than that.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Anyone from the Bay Area cess, err, press pool present in the krappy presser asked of his demotion to qb coach, or that when he’s been OC, his offenses have ranked in the low 20s consistently, or the fact that his offense it’s about dink and dunk, moving sideways between the 20s, producing FGs and not TDs in the red zone, or the fact that the offense was 1-12 in 3rd downs against the ‘fins? Sure they want to focus on DMAC not getting the production he’s capable of getting in the running game.
But, it’s not only obvious that he’s not built for the krappy system, but once the dolts saw what the Raiders offense focus was as DMAC does, well they adjusted and keyed heavily on him and stopped him in the second half, not to be left behind the ‘fins knew exactly what to do, and so all the other teams will. The key is for Carson Palmer to step it up and get it done, but he is not capable, and that’s the sorry part, because he’ll get the stats to wow you but get you a loss, err, moral victory to keep people making excuses for him.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Interesting that the Giants are minus their lead WR and RB as well as having considerable injuries to their secondary.
No excuses. No pleas for patience until the troops get back.
Just a 20-0 lead. On the road.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Lets see how “PATIENT” Markie D is with his 120million dollar investment!!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I think Reggie will say whatever the guy signing he checks tells him to say…
Problem is, the guy signing the checks wants out of his Dad’s shadow,
but realizes he has no idea how to do it, hence the removal of all the existing staff who knew about his lack of ability to lead an NFL franchise…Mark has become the prototypical Slacker kid who inherits the biz, funnels the profits and runs it into the ground.
Reggie went uncontested into this job, based on the advice of two retirees who checked out of the business side of game years ago…that’s what bothers me. Any Mgmt person ALWAYS interviews at least 2 candidates for ANY job, especially upper Management, yet 1 meeting was all it took…easy way out in my book, and pretty far from Due Diligence.
Kid starts life on 3rd base and acts like he hit a triple…he’s not qualified to Head this Org,period. Therefore, I’ll wait for results before I grade him out on this job.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RaidO Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
If Knapp’s interview is the mindset of DA and Reggie also then the season is OVER. Done
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Yep!
September 20th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
THIS JUST IN FROM TWITTER: Aaron Curry named his toilet God
September 20th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Dennis Allen is also a bum, and who the fk is his taylor?
September 20th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Cam Newton is much closer to his peers being Christian Ponder and Matt Cassel, than he is Drew Brees and Matt Ryan.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
He does have the Angela Davis Afro…can he stick his headin water and come up with fish?
Thanks for the laugh Oakfosho…
September 20th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
How soon until we get a Derek Anderson chant?
2 weeks??
September 20th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
We need to get to Ben, sack him, if you force that guy out of the pocket, that is exactly what he likes. If we don’t get to Ben, we are in for an ugly day…..
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co-signed, keep him on the ground at all costs for any chance of victory, our dbs couldnt cover HARTLINE, wallace and brown will be a nightmare if we cant put major pressure on ben
September 20th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
And his wife cannot climb steps,bet she can climb the fk out of trees though.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
If we go 0-3 or 0-4 something gonna happen!! Believe that!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Our O Line has definitely taking a huge step backwards. The loss of Satele is turning out to be Big, don’t know if we didn’t have the money or Reggie didn’t like him.
Brisel, is not that great either, Wiz W’s better at guard. That is still part of the problem, the O line hasn’t gelled due to the new scheme and players.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
I bungee jumped off the bridge. this blog……SPLAT
September 20th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Yea something is gnna happen.WE will go 0-5.Pitt is gnna slap the taste out of our mouth Sun! Patience will say the Reggie lovers,while the rest of us are trolls. Hillarious.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Perspective people, find a way to beat Pitt, then go play the Donks where we have won the last 4 years.
All it takes is 1 game to build some momentum…..
September 20th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
only positives going into this game are
1)steelers oline is avg at best should be able get to ben and maybe force our first turnover.
2)steelers secondary has never been its strength but without #43 it will be below avg if CP3 can get some time DMoore an co. should be able to make a few plays
but with all that they still shut down a decent jets team so…
September 20th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Oh, Ive got perspective on all of this. Check this out. WE SUCK! and its all Reggies fault.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Brisel, is not that great either, Wiz W’s better at guard. That is still part of the problem, the O line hasn’t gelled due to the new scheme and players.
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Briesel, Bartell, Spencer=SCRUBS, backups on good teams…bad moves reggie, you get what you pay for, learn from it
September 20th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
The B*tch got a wooden leg with a kickstand on it,…
September 20th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
#255 lmfao.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
NFL is week to week.
It’s all about matchups.
We have seen flashes of our Defense play well, which is encouraging.
DMAC is due, Denarius Moore is due, The Raiders are due.
We’ve gone 1-6 in our last regular season games, it’s time to WIN!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
There is no such thing as “due”.
Brown and Wallace will rip this secondary apart.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
This is just Crazy.
Out of all the NFL offensive assistants, Former NFL OC’s, and College OC’s DA picked Gregg Knapp. What a frickin FAIL. It’s unbelievable.
After reading this interview it’s starting to sink in that they(DA and Reggie) are going to stay the course with Knapp and the season is over along with a very grim future for the Raiders. Full Rebuild(AGAIN!) is on the horizon. This is not just a wasted season but a season that should have been a playoff one if “continuity”=Hue was kept.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Who has two thumbs and was smart enough to pick up Andre Brown on his fantasy team? This guy!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
#259 Yes sir.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
You think Gruden would be just the OC for the right price???
September 20th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Louis Murphy just made a catch.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Cam Newton is a gum chewer too, eh?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
RaidO you hit it spot on, we went from being contenders to win the division to what we are witnessing now, I’m at loss as to why, like you said, out of all the options DA may have had, he chose knapp, it makes me sick.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Gruden would giggle his a$$ off at that idea.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Sweel Lou. wooooooooooooooooooooooooo
September 20th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Sweet LOU I mean.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
I feel like its gonna be a lonnng season. Good thing Alabama is not on our schedule this year. Might be the first team to lose to a College bcs team
September 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
And his wife cannot climb steps,bet she can climb the fk out of trees though.
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That’s some ignorant dumbass schit. You’re losing all credibility with me.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
How about gruden’s son Deuce, I think he can do a better job than Knapp, he’s hired
September 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
269,
I would seriously be scared about that game. I think they would kill us.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I think? Gruden doesnt know anything about Defense! He let Monte Kiffen have sole authority on Defense for7yrs
September 20th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RaidO Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
This is just Crazy.
Out of all the NFL offensive assistants, Former NFL OC’s, and College OC’s DA picked Gregg Knapp. What a frickin FAIL. It’s unbelievable.
After reading this interview it’s starting to sink in that they(DA and Reggie) are going to stay the course with Knapp and the season is over along with a very grim future for the Raiders. Full Rebuild(AGAIN!) is on the horizon. This is not just a wasted season but a season that should have been a playoff one if “continuity”=Hue was kept.
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Exactly!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Im not saying, im just saying!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Ok Hue lovers, he gave up a kings ransom for Carson Palmer, sorry, Hue went 1-4 down the stretch and flapped his gums, no way Carson was worth it, no way!
We should have promoted Saunders, why that didn’t happen is more of a mystery then letting Hue go.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
DA comports himself like an SEC coach. He’s got that accent…and ALL the cliche’s down pat. “We just wanna get better.” “I’ve gotta look at the film”.
I think Allen practiced way too much on SOUNDING like a HC and not enough on figuring out how to win ball games.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
#270 I care. Nice masculant name ya got there.KOOLKELL as in kelly,as in fa g.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Demote Knapp to jock strap washer now!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
#270 I care. Nice masculant name ya got there.KOOLKELL as in kelly,as in fa g.
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Why do you have to demean and use dirty language? Not cool bro.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Carefull.you will lose credibility with a guy named Kelly.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
What does Reggie’s gut say on the chances of the raiders beating the steelers this weekend?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
ray_d Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Demote Knapp to jock strap washer now!
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No way. Guys would be standing around waiting for their jock straps to get done and Knapp would say “be patient”.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I think Mark Davis doesnt have enough in the bank to be PATIENT! Mark knows as much as some of these bloggers! He saw the Offense last year! Have faith in the young Jedi
September 20th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
#270 I care. Nice masculant name ya got there.KOOLKELL as in kelly,as in fa g.
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Is that all you got clown, prepubescent lame nonsense?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Thats the way I roll.Way cool.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Funny how people forget that Hue failed to score points in the 2nd half.
Could it be that he “The Great” pimp hand Huge got out coached?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Kelly? AH Haaaaaaaaa.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
You roll like a Pootbutt
September 20th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Ok Hue lovers, he gave up a kings ransom for Carson Palmer, sorry, Hue went 1-4 down the stretch and flapped his gums, no way Carson was worth it, no way!
We should have promoted Saunders, why that didn’t happen is more of a mystery then letting Hue go.
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I liked Hue, he just let his ego get in the way, I liked the carson trade but yes we gave up waaayyy too much, and benching dhb and boss had me smh…but i would take hue over knapp all day everyday, but have faith, saunders is on the payroll for a reason
September 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Everyone associated with the NFL and in the media constantly tell us that NFL is an acronym meaning ‘NOT FOR LONG’. But Greg Knapp has the nerve to tell us to be PATIENT.
The dude is clearly clueless.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
#287 Hue = 9th ranked offense in the NFL. K.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
What did Mark say 8-8 wasnt good enough! There AL blood in there somewhere?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Oakofshow, using foul language and insults is what ignorant and weak minded people do. I know you are better than that. We are all friends here, right? Raider Nation sticks together!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
ray_d Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Demote Knapp to jock strap washer now!
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No way. Guys would be standing around waiting for their jock straps to get done and Knapp would say “be patient”.
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funny
September 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
How did Hue’s ego get in the way? What was he supposed to do after Al died,sit there with his thumb up his a$$? Was trying to go to the playoffs.Hue= big balls.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Knapp do the right thing and just resign, for whatever reasons you want to make up, ie family, health… that way you can save face and not look like a fool, your offense stinks!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Damn… Knapps BS doesn’t even give me confidence.
He’s a sheep, not a wolf.
Just can’t get behind him. I’ve seen it before and it looks similar now.
How could DA and Reggie not get that we were over knapp years ago?
His offense sucked before and it sucks now. It’s not the zone blocking scheme that sucks, it’s the guy drawing up the plays within that system that sucks.
I’ll bet his playbook would fit in a peechee folder.
If you’re old enough, you know what that is.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
292.oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
#287 Hue = 9th ranked offense in the NFL. K.
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Sorry, I’m not statistic guru. If I was then Palmer is kickin azz right now.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
#294 you dont sound like a raider fan. its a shame it has come to this.Real men curse.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Carson is on pace for 5,600 yds. passing. He is dealing with a porous line and no running game.
YES he has missed some passes but Palmer has a ton of talent. From 2005 -2007 he was one of the top 3 QB’s in the league.
Tom Brady wouldn’t succeed in the scenario Palmer is in now.
Palmer ha missed more than a few passes..no doubt. He needs to step it up, but it wasn’t as bad a trade as people wanna believe.
He has the potential to be top 5 QB. He’s been there before.
Be patient….ha… couldn’t help it.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Oakfoshow, the man had kevin boss and dhb riding the bench, the trade was what it was, i cant hate on him for that, boller wouldve destroyed our season. But if he hadnt marched into the owners office saying he wanted the final decision on the gm, that he would do this and do that, he would be on the sidelines instead of this rookie and this sh!t for brains OC…just saying, his ego hurt him
September 20th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
#294 you dont sound like a raider fan. its a shame it has come to this.Real men curse.
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Real men have dignity and speak to others with respect.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Schefter picks Raiders to win this Sunday:
“If the Raiders hadn’t lost their long-snapper in the first game of the season, they would have beaten San Diego. Then we would be talking that the Raiders are tough at home. But they did lose their long snapper, they played a poor game after a late Monday night game going across the country for an early start, and now they’re back home again. Pittsburgh has a bye week next week to look forward to, it’s coming off a nice win off the Jets, and the one thing we know about this league is, it rarely holds to form. Plus, last week 14 of 16 home teams won. I know it’s going out on a limb saying the Raiders will beat the Steelers. But it was going out on a limb last week to say the Cardinals would upset the Patriots, too.”
September 20th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
296.oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
How did Hue’s ego get in the way? What was he supposed to do after Al died,sit there with his thumb up his a$$? Was trying to go to the playoffs.Hue= big balls.
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And is that why out of 32 NFL teams he gets hired as an assistant special teams coach?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
This guy has some b@llz considering only one team has scored less points than his offense….you want patience? Go coach zbs in high school or division II college, this is the nfl, there is no such thing as patience.
One excuse after another, injured o linemen, young inexperienced o linemen, same linemen who propelled Dmac to leading the league in rushing before he went down…
Plus, patience does not factor in when you call sh!ty call after sh!ty call, calling for 4 yard routes on 3rd and 9.
just resign you loser, then I will show some patience moving forward
September 20th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
#302 I am so glad you were there to witness all this stuff with Hue marching in marks office.I dont believe a word of it. Remember the press con? “DUUUUU I wanted my guy duuuuu” All I need is my own ears.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
After 8 years without a playoff appearance, many fans were perfectly willing to give Al Davis and his system a 9th year. I’m willing to give McKenzie and his system 3 years.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I will bet anyone that if DMAC gets rolling to loosen up the passing game and he re-connects with DMOORE he could actually finish in the top 5 THIS YEAR statistically. I’m not happy with that. All I care about is winning, but….he needs a reliable receiver in the red zone.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Schefter picks Raiders to win this Sunday:
I hope it happens….unlikely with Knapp as the OC, but I will be at the game and will let knapp hear my displeasure.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
#303 Dude go hang out in the ladies room with that bullsht.JEEEZus christmas. Raider fan? No way.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue? He lost his mind in the end! Talking Al taught him to do Contracts and hes gonna change everything without supervision! He thought he inherited the team! Mark had to let him go,
September 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Cam Newton sucks this year.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
After 8 years without a playoff appearance, many fans were perfectly willing to give Al Davis and his system a 9th year. I’m willing to give McKenzie and his system 3 years.
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Smart man. Most intelligent thing I have read all day.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Nice post Boss01
September 20th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Sullen 1 shut up, and DJ Johnny sounds like you’ve stepped back from the ledge a bit. Keep the faith.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
291-I’vebeen reading your comments for the last few weeks and will answer you in words you MAY? understand-look you stupid,idiotic,moron we have changed many things on the team.Our Oline is being rebuilt with 3 of the 5 guys playing different positions than they played in the past.The QB,WRs, and RBs are trying to get used to a whole new system.Just as NE is going through growing pains getting used to a new leader,so are we.Complete idiots like you fail to understand these things.Continue to show that you know absolutely nothing about football by your ignorant rants.If nothing else,at least you are slightly humorous and continue to provide the blog with much needed comedy in these down times.Carry on you dumb mother fu(ker.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
#312 Glad you were there to know all these facts.I think I will wait for you to break all the news for now on.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Oakfoshow i hear ya man, im going by articles i wasnt there, I saw the presser just like you did, like I said I liked the guy, but he shot himself in the foot with some of his moves, even if the scenerio I’ve heard abt didnt go down. He’s gone and now we have this cluster fck to watch every sunday. Thats a fact.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Cam Newton sucks this year.
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Knew that was coming.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Sully, Peter Smiley? Really?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Nice post Boss01
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just showing patience that this loser will get the boot soon
September 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Who is this Peter Smiley cherry?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
TONS of Giant fans in Carolina tonight.
I’m afraid we’re gonna hear alot of “Heeeeeeeeeaaath” at the OCO on Sunday.
Pittsburgh has a ton of frontrunning fans. I know many of them where I live in the midwest.
I know for a fact that if they were told to “be patient” after getting demolished the 1st two games??? Hahahaha.
Thing is, Pittsburgh doesn’t take 2-3 yrs. off to rebuild and they would NEVER tell their fans to “be patient”…
If they did, they would mean to be patient for a SB trophy…nah…they still wouldn’t say that.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Amy, saw you talking to yourself, aka Sully last night. Good fun.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
DA comports himself like an SEC coach. He’s got that accent…and ALL the cliche’s down pat. “We just wanna get better.” “I’ve gotta look at the film”.
I think Allen practiced way too much on SOUNDING like a HC and not enough on figuring out how to win ball games.
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Yeah. No swagger whatsoever. It’s like he’s trying to play the part of NFL head coach and is so unsure of what to say/not say he can only answer in meaningless cliches. I don’t think he’s as sketchy as Kiffin, but I get that same, “not quite ready” vibe so far.
Kind of reminds me of Mike Riley when he flamed out with the Chargers in the late 90s/early 2000s. Decent coach but prob not ready to be an NFL HC at this point in his development.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Carson is on pace for 5,600 yds. passing. He is dealing with a porous line and no running game.
YES he has missed some passes but Palmer has a ton of talent. From 2005 -2007 he was one of the top 3 QB’s in the league.
Tom Brady wouldn’t succeed in the scenario Palmer is in now.
Palmer ha missed more than a few passes..no doubt. He needs to step it up, but it wasn’t as bad a trade as people wanna believe.
He has the potential to be top 5 QB. He’s been there before.
Be patient….ha… couldn’t help it.
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Top 5 QB? Not even top 15 currently…….
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
“KoolKell Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Cam Newton sucks this year.
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Knew that was coming.”
I am glad we have Palmer he is having a better season.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
I know it is unpopular sentiment with Raider fans, but I am really impressed with 49ers. It would be nice to see a bay area team in the Super Bowl. Hopefully Raiders can make it, but if not I want to see 49ers get it done.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Does Allen/ KNAPP thing the Raider fans gonna put up with that wait and patience crap? Fact is we would if u didnt fck with the offense.. so u want to let HUE GO? FINE. Dont let that offense go. BUILD ON IT. Dont tear it down. Let Saunders OC if u have to
September 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Carson actually looks like the hardest working feller on this team,took me a little by suprise.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
think*
September 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
oakfoshow Says: Who is this Peter Smiley cherry?///////////////////////No cherry as a sock puppet master, but absolutely otherwise. With the possible exclusion of his 44D and 50 year old cousin.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
291-I’vebeen reading your comments for the last few weeks and will answer you in words you MAY? understand-look you stupid,idiotic,moron we have changed many things on the team.Our Oline is being rebuilt with 3 of the 5 guys playing different positions than they played in the past.The QB,WRs, and RBs are trying to get used to a whole new system.Just as NE is going through growing pains getting used to a new leader,so are we.Complete idiots like you fail to understand these things.Continue to show that you know absolutely nothing about football by your ignorant rants.If nothing else,at least you are slightly humorous and continue to provide the blog with much needed comedy in these down times.Carry on you dumb mother fu(ker.
This is one ignorant POS, has he watched the same games as me. We are the laughing stock of the NFL right now, there are plenty of new coaches, schemes and players on every team and we have executed like crap.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I think once Mcfadden gets loose and takes one to the hous! It will open the flood gates!
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Steelers will probably destroy OAK. this is a crappy match up unless Palmer finds MOORE and DHB 50 yards down field.. nobody really runs on PIT so it would be a surprise for OAK too. so knapp better find some creatively or the season is over.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
I know it is unpopular sentiment with Raider fans, but I am really impressed with 49ers. It would be nice to see a bay area team in the Super Bowl. Hopefully Raiders can make it, but if not I want to see 49ers get it done.
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Come on, man. Really? I rooted for the Giants like they were my own team in last year’s NFC conference championship game.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
#330 I’m inclined to agree with you,want your own guy ok.Dont destroy what was just built. Reggie is a stupid skunk ape.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I think once Mcfadden gets loose and takes one to the hous! It will open the flood gates!
>> who does that against the steeler defense? if anything you can pass on them but running?
September 20th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
oakfoshow Says: Carson actually looks like the hardest working feller on this team,took me a little by suprise.//////////////I thought you were a hater/ troll. Now you’re making sense.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Did Billy Beane tell the A’s fans to wait this year? He might have thought of its gonna be a wait n see. but at some point the players come together and play for a great coach.
Memo to the RAIDERS.. all the bay area teams are balling right now and making PLAYOFF PUSHES.. Niners are best team in league. They said the A’s would win 50 games this year. Players said F that.. we gonna ball.
Raiders its now your turn on SUNDAY.. You are UP… what the are you gonna do? Which player is gonna step up and make a damn play?? Who is gonna make the tackle? Who is gonna conver the WR on 3rd down and knock the pass down? Who is gonna block and get DMAC 10 yards up field?
Which guy is gonna wrap up the RB 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage? Branch are you finally gonna cover the TE?? Knapp are you finally gonna call a creative play on 3rd and 4??
September 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
KK,you are a hypocrite.Always calling out the opponents,never criticizing within.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
We need play action to be successful or otherwise having DMAC is a waste.
If you don’t know how to use him, trade him. SB winning teams don’t need or have top tier running backs anyways….
September 20th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
how many of yall think we have a chance of winning this sunday?
i do.
any given sunday….
September 20th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
I know it is unpopular sentiment with Raider fans, but I am really impressed with 49ers. It would be nice to see a bay area team in the Super Bowl. Hopefully Raiders can make it, but if not I want to see 49ers get it done.
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Come on, man. Really? I rooted for the Giants like they were my own team in last year’s NFC conference championship game.
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Always pulled for the 49ers back in the Montana/Young days. Raiders were always out of it.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Peter Smiley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
I know it is unpopular sentiment with Raider fans, but I am really impressed with 49ers. It would be nice to see a bay area team in the Super Bowl. Hopefully Raiders can make it, but if not I want to see 49ers get it done.
>> niner fans get pretty annoying. i don’t follow their games but their coach has douche bag written on his forehead
September 20th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Of course we have a chance.. but after the 1st quarter you will know how the D and Offense is playing. Usually our games are over by halftime or after.
It would have help if there was any type of evidence these past two weeks why we can win
September 20th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
#340 I am in no way a hater.I sleep,eat,brush my teeth silver and black. Just very upset at this waste of a Staff that killed something to be exited about.I know this season is over,so I will run my mouth all I want. Do you have any idea how much money and time I have invested in being a fan of this team? Very pissed.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
how many of yall think we have a chance of winning this sunday?
i do.
any given sunday….
>> always a chance, this is the season so we should get the effort. palmer better being connecting on some long bombs for OAK to win this game. tough to run on the steelers. i had this pegged as a loss when i saw the schedule, just a tough matchup for team that likes to run
September 20th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Oakfoshow
Why are you such a hom0 ? You don’t brush your teeth and the only thing you eat is dudes @sses . Your a closet F@g and charger fan aren’t you ???
September 20th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Ray_d-you are an idiot.I wasn’t talking to you and you obviously have no idea what I was talking about.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
#350 You want to suck my what??
September 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Someone brought up the idea that DA hired Knapp so he could have a scapegoat if things go south, then if we go 2-14 he can say he “made the decision to make an adjustment in the coaching staff”.
I don’t know about that, but it’s take I hadn’t heard yet.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
#350 You want to suck my what??
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H0m0 says What ???
September 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Im giving Knapp one more week to prove he can call a creative play when we need it the most.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
#350 speaking of closets,get your mom out of here.I’m done with her for now punk.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Couldn’t beat the Chargirls 13 in a row until we did. Nobody can get 100 yds on the pitts until somebody does. I never had a blueberry muffin until I did. And then it happened. What the fvck is wrong with most of you biotches. I’m excluding half of you because that’s MR’s sockpuppet army.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Lefty,
I’m not clear on where u stand on all this Knapp stuff.
Are u willing to be “patient”? If so, for how long?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Im giving Knapp one more week to prove he can call a creative play when we need it the most.
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Dont hold your breath, 3 yd screens on 3rd and 6, bet on it.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
POP a cap in Knapp.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Peter Smiley-Go Phuck yourself and take your whiners with you.Our Raiders may suck but saying you’ll root for the whiners is something I as a 50 year Raider fan canNOT accept.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Newton INT again
September 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Oakf@gshow
You are so clever with yo mama jokes . Are you stuck in the year 2000 ? Filthy b!tch !
September 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
yeah very tru.
how good is the steelers run game? i havent been keeping up with them too much.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Cam Newton doesn’t look so good. I would rather have Carson Palmer any day.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Another former Raider makes the box score tonight.
Stevie Brown (remember him?). Just picked off Kim Newton at the goal line and returnedit 44 yds.
Mayock said “that’s a veteran making a great read and making a great play”.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Tommy Boy, another fighter of the pink team.Go away little man.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Couldn’t beat the Chargirls 13 in a row until we did. Nobody can get 100 yds on the pitts until somebody does. I never had a blueberry muffin until I did. And then it happened. What the fvck is wrong with most of you biotches. I’m excluding half of you because that’s MR’s sockpuppet army.
>> some of us live in reality. for the Raiders to beat the steelers Palmer will have to connect on some long bombs and the defense will have to be tough. knapp calls 3 yard pass plays, no reason to think he’ll air it out. so how will the Raiders WIN?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
yeah very tru.
how good is the steelers run game? i havent been keeping up with them too much.
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Steelers have 30th ranked running game.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Couldn’t beat the Chargirls 13 in a row until we did. Nobody can get 100 yds on the pitts until somebody does. I never had a blueberry muffin until I did. And then it happened. What the fvck is wrong with most of you biotches. I’m excluding half of you because that’s MR’s sockpuppet army.
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exactly ..everyone is so conditioned to think we can run if u have a great run d.
Knapp making execuses again. Oh we went against a great Run d??? ANNNNNDDD??? We are suppose to be a great RUN team until u F’d the offense.
Allen gonna be at the Monday presser saying Queerlers have a great run d.. Why couldnt we move the ball coach or pass? Well the steelers have amazing Corners and secondary even without Troy. Bullchit. U take control of ur team.. ur OC and move the damn football and not just between the 20’s.. call a play to get them in the endzone.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Never watched a Panthers game with Newton at QB. Not really feeling all the hype they throw on this guy.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
to think we cant run *
September 20th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Never watched a game until tonight I meant.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Of course we have a chance.. but after the 1st quarter you will know how the D and Offense is playing. Usually our games are over by halftime or after.
It would have help if there was any type of evidence these past two weeks why we can win
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I worry about how we respond if it’s close at halftime..Usually? not good.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
It’s making progress, it’s making progress. It may not look (like it) statistically but ……
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Double speak at its finest.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
maybe Rothlesberger will get the flu or something and pass it on to Mike Wallace.could win that way. that would suck as i have Wallace on my fantasy team but thats one way OAK can win. Rothlesberger is going to light us up so Palmer better keep up and then hope to get a key turnover late.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Didn’t one of the Panthers say he GUARANTEES they will the Super Bowl? I think he took out a full page ad saying that.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
348.oakfoshow Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
#340 I am in no way a hater.I sleep,eat,brush my teeth silver and black. Just very upset at this waste of a Staff that killed something to be exited about.I know this season is over,so I will run my mouth all I want. Do you have any idea how much money and time I have invested in being a fan of this team? Very pissed.
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Season ticket holder?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I would feel a little better as far as hope goes about the offense if I have never heard of this guy named KNAPP. Or if he was never a Raider OC before and we never ran pure ZBS before. U know ??
but suxs for us Raider fans, thats simply not true. We have heard of this Knappy fellow before.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Still want to see what the Niners do when some of the contracts of defensive players are up. And, if they let them go, if they still win without the defense. Possible in my view that there could be a total repeat of Gruden/Tampa in SF. Offensive coach gives them the spark they need, but when attention to defense wains…
September 20th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
what is fakemaddenraider posting as now? I haven’t seen his crybaby ass posting on here in a while
September 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
So it was that Palmer met with Knapp on the players’ off day Tuesday as a means of passing along some of that insight to Knapp.
“He had a lot of information because he’s … faced these guys quite a bit,” Knapp said. “At least half a dozen or so either the winner goes to the playoffs or was a playoff game. He gave me a lot of insight that’s very helpful for my mindset……………
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In other words, move over b1tch.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
we need to score some fahqin touchdowns man,this is getting ridiculous. shoulda saw it coming in pre-season. i sure do hope this offense starts to click some how, some way and fast!
lets make some moves baby!!!
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Still think Singletary got screwed in SF. Not for being fired. That’s part of the business. But just for the fact that Harbaugh is being heralded as a god there when he’s clearly winning with Singletary’s defense just as much as he is with his own offense.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
So it was that Palmer met with Knapp on the players’ off day Tuesday as a means of passing along some of that insight to Knapp.
“He had a lot of information because he’s … faced these guys quite a bit,” Knapp said. “At least half a dozen or so either the winner goes to the playoffs or was a playoff game. He gave me a lot of insight that’s very helpful for my mindset……………
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In other words, move over b1tch.
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lmao.. zactly.. this ones for HUE.. mah daddy
September 20th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
– Few Raiders are as qualified to speak about the zone-blocking scheme ………..
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That really says alot about what they’re (coaches) are trying to teach. Pitiful.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Singletary’s D still bailing out Harbaugh’s offense, a lot.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
DJ-he is the OC for a minimum of this year.Whether I like what he does is not relevent-he isn’t going anywhere.I will root for the team EVERY week.If things don’t turn out as we all wish,I will wait and see what is done next year.I will not and don’t accept the constant whining on here.We have no say.I root for the team and hope we win.If we don’t I hope we make the necessary changes in the future.ROOT FOR THE RAIDERS and let the powers that be do their jobs.Quit questioning every move and try and just be a fan.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
LEFTY we have tried that route.. many of us fans have.. doesnt work anymore. neither does complaining.. but we are just tired of this crap
September 20th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
With the Raiders run game 31st after two games, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp has become a lightning rod for criticism.
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You got that right.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
KK,you are a hypocrite.Always calling out the opponents,never criticizing within.
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What do you mean,Lefty?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Knapp said proof that the run game is competent comes in the form of Darren McFadden running the ball well in the exhibition games ………….
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We’re 0-2 in regular season dude, comprende?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I wonder what that TO fella was telling MR KNAPP back in 01..
September 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
“You can’t develop a scheme in two weeks in a regular season,
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That’s why you have training camp and pre-season games?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
This team was CLOSE last year. with AL Saunders as OC and Dennis Allen and new defense this is a 10-11 win team. especially with cutting penalties back. so what do we rebuild now after being 1 win from the division title 1 year ago?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
378-it would be safe to say that most that comment on here don’t even live close enough to go to games let alone be season ticket holders.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
KK-you know exactly what I mean.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
johnnylama Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Frightfully..we are headed to an Art Shell / Bed&Breakfast Tom Walsh-esque 2-14 record with the looks of this offense…Jaguars and Browns are looking like the only games we could win with this “scheme.”
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Well at least Art Shell beat the Steelers that year.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
IF HUE WAS COACH WE ARE 2-0 PERIOD. AND ALL YOU HATERS KNOW IT THATS WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON HIM. IF HE WAS HOT GARBAGE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY THIS WOULDNT EVEN BE A TOPIC. THINK BILLS, COWBOYS, FALCONS OR ANY OTHER TEAM WITH A SUCK ASS COACH TALKED ABOUT THEIR FIRED COACH INTO THE NEXT SEASON.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
– Much was made of former coach Hue Jackson pulling aside McFadden and asking which plays he is most comfortable running, and then going heavy on those plays.
Knapp said he has done the same thing with McFadden.
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Puhleeeeze…
September 20th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Two ex-Raiders in tonight’s game, both of whom Reggie was relentlessly mocked for letting go.
Louis Murphy: 1 catch for 7 yards.
Bruce Campbell: Didn’t even get on the field, AFAIK.
And this was for a team that just lost by 29 points at home.
Please explain to me again how Reggie got so completely used and taken on these trades.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Think bronco fan is still saying “dammit we shoulda kept josh mcdaniels.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtMPEmJNaxE
Wow take a look at Greg knapps clip from his interview today?? is this guy serious? the smirks… SMH
Some of you fans forget hue didnt even have mini camps last year or OTA’s just had about 3 weeks to get it going. This interview gave me zero confidence in the guy lol. execuses. NFL is a peformance based business.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
378-it would be safe to say that most that comment on here don’t even live close enough to go to games let alone be season ticket holders.
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I understand, I was trying to be a smart azz.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
KK-you know exactly what I mean.
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No, I don’t.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
IF HUE WAS COACH WE ARE 2-0 PERIOD. AND ALL YOU HATERS KNOW IT THATS WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON HIM. IF HE WAS HOT GARBAGE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY THIS WOULDNT EVEN BE A TOPIC. THINK BILLS, COWBOYS, FALCONS OR ANY OTHER TEAM WITH A SUCK ASS COACH TALKED ABOUT THEIR FIRED COACH INTO THE NEXT SEASON.
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It is usually because teams fire their coaches when their coach fails misserably.
Hue had his flaws but he won 8 games. Going 8-8 for 2 seasons in a row was awesome after such a long losing streak. I think Hue deserved one more year with a real DC to see what he could do. The reason he was fired was because of Tommy Boy… I mean Mark Davis.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
403-Hey stupid,HJ was the OC the previous year.His system was already in place.Duh!!!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
IF HUE WAS COACH WE ARE 2-0 PERIOD. AND ALL YOU HATERS KNOW IT THATS WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON HIM. IF HE WAS HOT GARBAGE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY THIS WOULDNT EVEN BE A TOPIC. THINK BILLS, COWBOYS, FALCONS OR ANY OTHER TEAM WITH A SUCK ASS COACH TALKED ABOUT THEIR FIRED COACH INTO THE NEXT SEASON.
>> no reason to think that. Hue coached us right out of the playoffs lost 4 out of last 5, had 163 penalties a horrid defense and no discipline. Hue Jackson SUCKED as a head coach. great as an OC but couldn’t coach kindergartners to a title
September 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Tomlin seems equally impressed by Van Dyke now that he’s with the Steelers.
“He’s done a nice job for us, man,”
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It’s coaching.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Puddy Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Tomlin seems equally impressed by Van Dyke now that he’s with the Steelers.
“He’s done a nice job for us, man,”
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It’s coaching.
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That, and maybe being cut and unemployed for a few weeks made DVD realize that he’d better get serious about his craft if he doesn’t want to be bagging groceries for the rest of his life.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
DJ-he is the OC for a minimum of this year.Whether I like what he does is not relevent-he isn’t going anywhere.I will root for the team EVERY week.If things don’t turn out as we all wish,I will wait and see what is done next year.I will not and don’t accept the constant whining on here.We have no say.I root for the team and hope we win.If we don’t I hope we make the necessary changes in the future.ROOT FOR THE RAIDERS and let the powers that be do their jobs.Quit questioning every move and try and just be a fan.
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this blog is for is for people to voice their opinion about the team if you dont like it simply dont log in read corkys post and go. easy solution to your problem.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
409-yeh,right.a guy coaches in pittsbarph and he knows what he is doing.The same guy coaches in Oakland and he is clueless.Are you guys really that dumb?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Hue is not coach, so don’t be idiots like Mike Silver of Yahoo. Reggie drafted very well. Should have kept Michael Bush is my only complaint. There is no way the Raiders could have won in Miami either with Hue as coach. Cut out the garbage about Hue. He did not get the job done.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Beach Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Hue is not coach, so don’t be idiots like Mike Silver of Yahoo. Reggie drafted very well. Should have kept Michael Bush is my only complaint. There is no way the Raiders could have won in Miami either with Hue as coach. Cut out the garbage about Hue. He did not get the job done.
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Hue Jackson is a skilled offensive coordinator who let the power go to his head. His general wackiness with his playcalling won us a few games, but his inability to make second-half adjustments cost us as many. Anybody remember how we’d build up a respectable halftime lead, only to watch it completely evaporate when we couldn’t score afterwards?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
beach Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Hue is not coach, so don’t be idiots like Mike Silver of Yahoo. Reggie drafted very well. Should have kept Michael Bush is my only complaint. There is no way the Raiders could have won in Miami either with Hue as coach. Cut out the garbage about Hue. He did not get the job done.
>> Michael Bush walked to make the same $$$ in Chicago. Bush bailed ON OAK. could have gotten the same deal here IMO. same with Campbell. these guys got emotional and left town with Kleenex in hand. we should have bush and campbell here right now.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
IF HUE WAS COACH WE ARE 2-0 PERIOD. AND ALL YOU HATERS KNOW IT THATS WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON HIM. IF HE WAS HOT GARBAGE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY THIS WOULDNT EVEN BE A TOPIC. THINK BILLS, COWBOYS, FALCONS OR ANY OTHER TEAM WITH A SUCK ASS COACH TALKED ABOUT THEIR FIRED COACH INTO THE NEXT SEASON.
>> no reason to think that. Hue coached us right out of the playoffs lost 4 out of last 5, had 163 penalties a horrid defense and no discipline. Hue Jackson SUCKED as a head coach. great as an OC but couldn’t coach kindergartners to a title
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another hue hater who simply doesnt get it chuck b got us sent home early. lets go through it AGAIN buff,den,det’sd all wins if not for the chuck b led defense 12-4 and in the playoffs easily and thats with all the turmoil the org went through. some of you really need to get a clue.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Beach Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Hue is not coach, so don’t be idiots like Mike Silver of Yahoo. Reggie drafted very well. Should have kept Michael Bush is my only complaint. There is no way the Raiders could have won in Miami either with Hue as coach. Cut out the garbage about Hue. He did not get the job done.
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Hue Jackson is a skilled offensive coordinator who let the power go to his head. His general wackiness with his playcalling won us a few games, but his inability to make second-half adjustments cost us as many. Anybody remember how we’d build up a respectable halftime lead, only to watch it completely evaporate when we couldn’t score afterwards?
>> Hue Jackson traded for Carson Palmer, thats why he was fired. complete bone headed move and he’ll never get another HC gig for that reason.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
411-I’ve been here a hell of a lot longer than you.If you don’t like what I say rebut it,argue it,or ignore it,but you have no business telling anyone they need to go.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Also, I see the Cam Newton Sophomore Slump has begun right on schedule. If teams can stop the option play, he’s simply skilled enough at reading defenses to beat you from the pocket.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Still think Singletary got screwed in SF. Not for being fired. That’s part of the business. But just for the fact that Harbaugh is being heralded as a god there when he’s clearly winning with Singletary’s defense just as much as he is with his own offense.
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This is one of the rare and few times I ever agree with anything you have to say MR. Of course it has to do with facts concerning the Niners, your real favorite team.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
>> Hue Jackson traded for Carson Palmer, thats why he was fired. complete bone headed move and he’ll never get another HC gig for that reason.
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He browbeat Mark into making that trade, tried to browbeat him into GM approval again, and when he was fired for it, went to Mike Silver with a box of tissues in hand.
There’s a reason he didn’t even get a coordinator’s job after he left. He’ll get one again at some point, but he’ll have to learn some humility first.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
“Hue is not coach, so don’t be idiots like Mike Silver of Yahoo. ”
What is he doing now assistant DB coach in Cincinnati.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
IF HUE WAS COACH WE ARE 2-0 PERIOD. AND ALL YOU HATERS KNOW IT THATS WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON HIM. IF HE WAS HOT GARBAGE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY THIS WOULDNT EVEN BE A TOPIC. THINK BILLS, COWBOYS, FALCONS OR ANY OTHER TEAM WITH A SUCK ASS COACH TALKED ABOUT THEIR FIRED COACH INTO THE NEXT SEASON.
>> no reason to think that. Hue coached us right out of the playoffs lost 4 out of last 5, had 163 penalties a horrid defense and no discipline. Hue Jackson SUCKED as a head coach. great as an OC but couldn’t coach kindergartners to a title
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another hue hater who simply doesnt get it chuck b got us sent home early. lets go through it AGAIN buff,den,det’sd all wins if not for the chuck b led defense 12-4 and in the playoffs easily and thats with all the turmoil the org went through. some of you really need to get a clue.
>> not a hter man, i just see reality with NO BIAS. Hues resume: terrible defense 27 ppg, 163 penalties(NFL RECORD)inept 2nd half adjustments(went through a 4 game stretch with NO 2n half TDS. HORRIBLE man. team choked when it mattered every time, lost 4 out of 5 to miss playoffs, the Lions loss was the worst, all on HUE. choked against the chargers week 17. and of course the idiotic Carson palmer trade which HUE called “the greatest Trade of all time”. Hue Jackson sucked as Head coach. the end. I’m done with this subject
September 20th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
sullivan44 is the Fakemaddenraider. good to know,
September 20th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Still think Singletary got screwed in SF. Not for being fired. That’s part of the business. But just for the fact that Harbaugh is being heralded as a god there when he’s clearly winning with Singletary’s defense just as much as he is with his own offense.
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The irony here, is that this is EXCATLY what I was trying to tell Seymour Butts and Raider Whiff yesterday.
The Niners are winning with the defensive foundation that Singletary laid. Harbaugh came in as an offensive mind, but left the foundation of the defense the Singletary laid down intact. In fact they actually built upon Singletary’s defense.
The Raiders were in a similar position on the opposite side of the ball.
All Allen had to do was build upon the offensive foundation that Hue Jackson had laid down. Then Allen as the defensive mind could have tightened up the defense which was the clear WEAKER link of the two.
If that had happened we would be having SERIOUS discussions about just how far into the playoffs we would be going, instead of debates about whether we’re the worst team in the NFL!
It’s sickening.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
now speaking of Head Coaches, the Steelers have a REAL NFL head coach. i hope Dennis Allen has some of that ability
September 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
“The Niners are winning with the defensive foundation that Singletary laid. Harbaugh came in as an offensive mind, but left the foundation of the defense the Singletary laid down intact. In fact they actually built upon Singletary’s defense.
The Raiders were in a similar position on the opposite side of the ball.
All Allen had to do was build upon the offensive foundation that Hue Jackson had laid down. Then Allen as the defensive mind could have tightened up the defense which was the clear WEAKER link of the two.
If that had happened we would be having SERIOUS discussions about just how far into the playoffs we would be going, instead of debates about whether we’re the worst team in the NFL!
It’s sickening.”
I agree
September 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
425-agreed
September 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
411-I’ve been here a hell of a lot longer than you.If you don’t like what I say rebut it,argue it,or ignore it,but you have no business telling anyone they need to go.
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you are the complaing about the bloggers and how they whine but you want me to argue rebut you about this? why dont you take your own advice and ignore the post you keep complaining about I just tried to offer you a solution. but now I think you like it or why else would you keep logging in reading all the whining post.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
niner offense has holes. defense is the best in the NFL. good pass rushing team will cause turnovers against niners, OLINE doesn’t protect QB.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
now speaking of Head Coaches, the Steelers have a REAL NFL head coach. i hope Dennis Allen has some of that ability
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He may, but it’ll take time to find out. The important thing right now is organizational stability. No more quick hooks to head coaches and front-office personnel.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
We were outscored 2 to 1 in the second half of games last year.As bad as the Defense was,with just a few more points in the 2nd half of games we would have made the play-offs.Actully with just a couple of key 1st downs in the 2nd half of games where we were outscored 2-1 in the 2nd half of games after dominating the 1st half,we would have won the division.The contrast was unbelievable.We stopped teams defensively and scored points in the 1st half,and didn’t stop anyone and get outscored in the 2nd half.Complete coaching failure-on both sides of the ball.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I haven’t posted in a while because I just don’t feel inclined to. But my observations are that Reggie is doing everything he can as are the coaches. They are just new at their jobs and it’s going to take some time. I definitely think Reggie acted in haste in some critical situations and it’s coming back to bite him. Live and learn, letting Bush go is a mistake that is hurting this team. Not giving the young DB’s(Chekwa and DVD) a chance to learn the system IMO was also a hasty move. They are press corners playing zone which takes time.
Dmac is having a tough time with the timing of the ZBS you cannot attack the hole the wya he does you have to let things develope in front of then burst through. My frustration has been with the QB primarily, he’s vet and needs to be more of a leader and mostly PLAY BETTER. He’s missing way too many throws and stopping drives. I know the running game is a factor but Palmer needs to lift the offense that why he gets the $$$.
THis is the first time in 15 years we haven’t had a solid to great corner in this secondary IMO Routt is hands down better than anyone I’ve seen and would’ve been a huge help.
The last thing I’ll say is they need to run TJ more if he can run down on kicks he can run in the backfield so play the kid all he’s use to is the ZBS, why haven’t we seen him?? and man get the ball to Ausberry and Reece and take the pressure off the offense.
Also I think they are missing out on playing Pryor in some situations to give him some reps. The coaches are sleeping on this kid he’s much better than they and anyone else thinks he is. This kid is very close to being a starter than poeple want to believe.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Armchair,
We’ll see what happens when Niner defenders start going elsewhere. I see this SF team doing what Tampa did under Gruden.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Hue Jackson never got a fair chance, really. I mean he also dealt with Al’s death which is overlooked. Of course he was over his head.
Plus he inherited Bresnahan’s crappy Defense which was Al’s and which cost us at least 3/4 gears.
It doesn’t matter. We need a win on Sunday, we can not go into Demver 0-3.
I don’t like knapp, and if our offense fails again, the hot seat just got izzling!!
All the great teams are consistent in 3 areas, GM, coach, and QB, we are a long ways away….
September 20th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Agree with getting the ball in the hands of Ausberry and Reece. Ausberry straight up punked a Miami defender. More please.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
IF HUE WAS COACH WE ARE 2-0 PERIOD. AND ALL YOU HATERS KNOW IT THATS WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON HIM. IF HE WAS HOT GARBAGE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY THIS WOULDNT EVEN BE A TOPIC. THINK BILLS, COWBOYS, FALCONS OR ANY OTHER TEAM WITH A SUCK ASS COACH TALKED ABOUT THEIR FIRED COACH INTO THE NEXT SEASON.
>> no reason to think that. Hue coached us right out of the playoffs lost 4 out of last 5, had 163 penalties a horrid defense and no discipline. Hue Jackson SUCKED as a head coach. great as an OC but couldn’t coach kindergartners to a title
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another hue hater who simply doesnt get it chuck b got us sent home early. lets go through it AGAIN buff,den,det’sd all wins if not for the chuck b led defense 12-4 and in the playoffs easily and thats with all the turmoil the org went through. some of you really need to get a clue.
>> not a hter man, i just see reality with NO BIAS. Hues resume: terrible defense 27 ppg, 163 penalties(NFL RECORD)inept 2nd half adjustments(went through a 4 game stretch with NO 2n half TDS. HORRIBLE man. team choked when it mattered every time, lost 4 out of 5 to miss playoffs, the Lions loss was the worst, all on HUE. choked against the chargers week 17. and of course the idiotic Carson palmer trade which HUE called “the greatest Trade of all time”. Hue Jackson sucked as Head coach. the end. I’m done with this subject
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can you say take your time CHHHUUUUCCK BRREEEESSNAHHAN
jesus christ!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
All of our problems on offense are a result of the shoddy O-line play. We shore that up and it’s off to the races. We have the players for it. Just need holes for the RB and time for the QB to make his progressions and find the open man.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
can you say take your time CHHHUUUUCCK BRREEEESSNAHHAN
jesus christ!!!
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Chuck Bresnahan had nothing to do with the 2011 team’s inability to score in the second half. That’s 100% on Hue.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Hi Everybody.
I am the biggest Raider fan of all time. I love my Raiders.
Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
“this system does not fit mcfadden”
ZBS explained by bill romanowski and lorenzo neal. very insightful video here nation. its either trade dmc at the end of the season or FIRE TAKE A DIRT KNAPP. i think the intelligent ones in here know which way we need to go…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUtmx_JWfGk&feature=player_embedded
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
this is year 3!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Off. coord. Knapp pleads for ‘patience’
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I thought he’d be pleading the 5th.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
The spotlights were not kind to Newton. Ouch. 40 QB rating.
If Palmer put those numbers up, a certain group of posters in here would be on him like flies on sh1t.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
this offense is taking a “Knapp” with Knapps scheme. one of us should apply for the OC position.its not complicate, watch what your players do well and let them do it. what a concept
September 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
All of our problems on offense are a result of the shoddy O-line play. We shore that up and it’s off to the races. We have the players for it. Just need holes for the RB and time for the QB to make his progressions and find the open man.
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EXACTLY. If any offensive coach is on the hot seat right now, it’s not Knapp but Frank Pollack. Tough to get a feel for Knapps’ playcalling when CP’s having to rush his throws and DMac’s not getting holes consistently opened.
If the line play stays this terrible through the year, it would not surprise me if Reggie gave someone like Alex Gibbs or even Tom Cable (remember that everybody Cable dealt with here is gone now) big buck$ to come in as o-line coach.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
The spotlights were not kind to Newton. Ouch. 40 QB rating.
If Palmer put those numbers up, a certain group of posters in here would be on him like flies on sh1t.
>> Jeff George had a Monday night game that bad as a Redskin once and Dennis Miller was cracking jokes on him all night. classic
September 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
this is year 3!
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For Reggie and DA? It’s GAME 3, not year 3.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
, especially when last week we faced the No. 3-ranked rush defense from 2011 and the week before they held the number two rush offense in the league to 2.4 yards per carry,
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Ok then, explain the passing game scheme.
Thats got to be the most saddest comment of all. If I’m facing the #2 or 3 rush defense, I’d sure as hell want to take some pride in the fact that we can run against them and beat them. Or out smart their rush D and go Air Coryell on them. WTF
September 20th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Hello ole friend.I totally agree that the QB must play better.I don’t know if I agree with giving the 3rd QB certain packages-not yet.Our QB play(Palmer) has not been what we have expected.He might not be smart enough to run the current system.He seems to be slow making the reads.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
year 3 to win…but no we need patience…
September 20th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-farmer-nfl-aeg-20120921,0,4298962.column
Article about AEG being sold. They seem to think it may make a Farmer’s Field deal a little easier.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Bob Wylie said it today that DMAC is too fast for the ZBS.
Can we know why we let Wylie go again?
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Knapp said the run game flourished in Atlanta, here, Seattle and Houston, when he was with those teams….
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This ain’t Atlanta, Seattle or Houston. You do know you are in Oakland, right?
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Hey, there was our ‘ol Raider friend Stevie Brown picking off Cam Newton in the 4th quarter. Remember him?
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Rekleiner Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
“this system does not fit mcfadden”
ZBS explained by bill romanowski and lorenzo neal. very insightful video here nation. its either trade dmc at the end of the season or FIRE TAKE A DIRT KNAPP. i think the intelligent ones in here know which way we need to go…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUtmx_JWfGk&feature=player_embedded
>> Neal broke it all down in the first minuet in plain english. basically Mcfadden is a 1 cut and go runner. makes 1 read and bursts for 20 yards. hes fast and bursts through the holes. WCO is for “patient” runners who make multiple reads. great clip
September 20th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
wylie was a real oline coach…veldehear flourished…
September 20th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
303Raider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Bob Wylie said it today that DMAC is too fast for the ZBS.
Can we know why we let Wylie go again?
>> hopefully RM and DA see that and bring back a suitable offensive scheme for McFadden next year
September 20th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
……..a lightning rod for criticism.
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To the delight of ReggieMac and Allen.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Rekleiner Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
“this system does not fit mcfadden”
ZBS explained by bill romanowski and lorenzo neal. very insightful video here nation. its either trade dmc at the end of the season or FIRE TAKE A DIRT KNAPP. i think the intelligent ones in here know which way we need to go…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUtmx_JWfGk&feature=player_embedded
>> Neal broke it all down in the first minuet in plain english. basically Mcfadden is a 1 cut and go runner. makes 1 read and bursts for 20 yards. hes fast and bursts through the holes. WCO is for “patient” runners who make multiple reads. great clip
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Please copy and forward to knapp ASAP. Send via courrier or telegram.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Hey Priest, I agree with what you say, with the exception of Routt. Yes, he is better than what we have, but that contract was terrible. I am sure Reggie will get us a better free agent corner next season.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Priest, hope all is well. Solid post, agree with it 100.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
All of our problems on offense are a result of the shoddy O-line play. We shore that up and it’s off to the races. We have the players for it. Just need holes for the RB and time for the QB to make his progressions and find the open man.
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EXACTLY. If any offensive coach is on the hot seat right now, it’s not Knapp but Frank Pollack. Tough to get a feel for Knapps’ playcalling when CP’s having to rush his throws and DMac’s not getting holes consistently opened.
If the line play stays this terrible through the year, it would not surprise me if Reggie gave someone like Alex Gibbs or even Tom Cable (remember that everybody Cable dealt with here is gone now) big buck$ to come in as o-line coach.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that Wiz was out for so long that the eventual starters really didn’t get to practice much together. This is essentially his preseason.
Man, I hope things turn around soon but Knapp says “it’s going to take a while” when asked how close they are. Doesn’t sound close at all.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
out, 1 NATION.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Armchair,
We’ll see what happens when Niner defenders start going elsewhere. I see this SF team doing what Tampa did under Gruden.
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You may be right and I’m inclined to agree with you here MR…
But in all seriousness, I think you have to also agree that your argument about Singletary and the Niners, can very similarly be made about the Raiders and our offense.
Both Singletary and Hue Jackson had serious locker room issues and were in danger of losing the team. But just as Harbaugh very wisely left the Niners defense intact, Dennis Allen should have taken a similar approach concerning the offense here in Oakland.
What Allen is doing to the Raiders, would be like Harbaugh coming into San Francisco and trying to install a 4-3 defense and totally undue everything that Singletary had done…
Do you agree?
September 20th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Off. coord. Knapp pleads for ‘patience’
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, September 20th, 2012 at 3:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
With the Raiders run game 31st after two games, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp has become a lightning rod for criticism. To that end, Knapp pleads for “patience.”
During training camp, Knapp likened the installation of his West Coast Offense to a start-up company, where it takes time to get in synch and to carve out a niche.
“You know who I’m talking to?” Knapp said. “I’m talking to my friends, who call me and let me know, ‘Hang in there, bud. You’ll be fine. I know they’re coming down on the run game.’ It’s like we tell the players: ‘We want success right away but we also have to understand that it takes a little time to develop.’ … I’m very confident we’ll be fine.”
Knapp said proof that the run game is competent comes in the form of Darren McFadden running the ball well in the exhibition games and in the first half against the San Diego Chargers in the regular-season opener.
It also hasn’t helped that the Raiders played Chargers and Dolphins teams that are pretty stout against the run.
“Let’s keep things in perspective for a second here,” Knapp said. “We’ve played two games in the regular season on offense. We’ve had two different centers and a right tackle who played half a game last week. We need some patience.
“You can’t develop a scheme in two weeks in a regular season, especially when last week we faced the No. 3-ranked rush defense from 2011 and the week before they held the number two rush offense in the league to 2.4 yards per carry, the Houston Texans. That was a good team we faced last week. The scheme will be fine. It just takes some time.”
Knapp said the run game flourished in Atlanta, here, Seattle and Houston, when he was with those teams before rejoining the Raiders this season.
It might take a little longer this time around, he said, because the Raiders are working with some young offensive linemen — third-year left tackle Jared Veldheer and second-year center Stefen Wisniewski, who missed all the offseason workouts, all but six snaps of the four exhibition games and the regular-season opener.
“A lot of it depends on who the parts are,” Knapp said. “At four different places, Atlanta, here, Seattle and then when I was in Houston, it was already in play. There was a different running back, five different linemen and a different coach. And all places they’ve had success where we did it at. It depends on that group of players.”
Indeed, Justin Fargas rushed for 1,009 yards in 2008 in Knapp’s offense with the Raiders in his first stint here.
McFadden has rushed for only 54 yards on 26 carries through two games this season, whereas last season he had 222 yards through the first two games.
Playing against a stingy Steelers defense doesn’t bode well for McFadden busting out this week, though the Steelers aren’t expected to have the services of linebacker James Harrison and safety Troy Polamalu.
“It will take a little while,” Knapp said of the run game hitting its stride. “I don’t know what the set time is. A lot of it will be changed week to week, based on who we’re playing. It’s making progress, it’s making progress. It may not look (like it) statistically but in the execution on cut blocks, combination blocks, we’re seeing progress being made.”
– Few Raiders are as qualified to speak about the zone-blocking scheme as left guard Cooper Carlisle.
He spent numerous years executing the scheme with the Denver Broncos, when they featured one of the top rushing offenses in the league. He also has worked in the scheme during his Raiders career.
Carlisle said the zone-blocking scheme is a solid one and that it works once everyone is on the same page.
“Yeah, I’m definitely a believer in the system,” Carlisle said. It works. There’s potential flaws in any system you run or pass, or any defensive system. I’m a believer in it and I still think it’s going to work.”
Carlisle said it’s not anymore difficult to learn the zone-blocking scheme than, say, the man-scheme or power-blocking scheme.
Therefore, he isn’t sure what all the fuss is about with people clamoring for a return to the power-blocking scheme used the past two seasons under Hue Jackson.
“I still have confidence in it, and most guys still have confidence in it,” Carlisle said. “We just haven’t hit any big runs. The flow of the game hasn’t been conducive to runs, either, the last two games, especially in the second half.”
With that said, Carlisle said he is “somewhat” surprised that the run game hasn’t clicked yet. The Raiders amassed only 68 yards on 34 rushes their first two games.
“You go in thinking you’re going to play well and you want to play well,” Carlisle said, “so when it doesn’t work, it’s not ideal.”
– Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain said he is feeling better today than he did either of the first three days after he suffered a concussion against the Miami Dolphins.
Even so, he still hasn’t passed all the tests required of players that suffer a concussion. He needs to pass all the tests before he can be cleared by team doctors to play in a game.
McClain practiced today, which is part of the evaluation process, Allen said.
– Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer prepared for games against the Steelers 17 times during his eight seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals from 2003-10.
As a result, he has plenty of insight into what to expect when playing against one of the league’s best defenses year in and year out.
So it was that Palmer met with Knapp on the players’ off day Tuesday as a means of passing along some of that insight to Knapp.
“He had a lot of information because he’s … faced these guys quite a bit,” Knapp said. “At least half a dozen or so either the winner goes to the playoffs or was a playoff game. He gave me a lot of insight that’s very helpful for my mindset going into the game to attack this defense.”
– Knapp said rookie Tony Bergstrom is progressing well. He also said that Bergstrom now is getting some work at offensive tackle, Bergstrom’s natural position, in light of the groin injury to starting right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes.
Bergstrom was converted to guard as soon as he was selected by the Raiders in the third round of this year’s NFL draft.
– Much was made of former coach Hue Jackson pulling aside McFadden and asking which plays he is most comfortable running, and then going heavy on those plays.
Knapp said he has done the same thing with McFadden.
“Every place I’ve been to, it’s important that we find out, a guy with that kind of talent, what’s his comfort zone and what plays we like to do,” Knapp said. “So, we definitely seek his input, and that comes into play in some of the stuff we do.”
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Steve- This is your best post EVER! I’m forwarding this to my friends and Comedy Central. They should be able to do a treatment on this.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Beach Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Hey Priest, I agree with what you say, with the exception of Routt. Yes, he is better than what we have, but that contract was terrible. I am sure Reggie will get us a better free agent corner next season.
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Routt is a good (not great) corner, but was being paid like a great one. Both he and Wimbley were let go because of their contracts: not just what we were paying them this year, but the guaranteed escalator clauses that would have kicked in (in Wimbley’s case, something like $27 million in future guarantees) had we kept them this year.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Hey Lefty12, how goes it? still fighting the good fight huh?
But I just love what Pryor brings to the table, understand though smarts has nothing to do with Pryor’s getting reps he just needs to continue to work on mechanics. Like I said B4 we drafted the kid he is the most competitive hate to lose QB you’ll find. He just competes on very down and reps is what can get him ready. If Reggie is smart and I mean this he’ll get this kid ready to start ASAP! Palmer is starting to frustrate me that gaff to Dmac in the redzone spoke volumns. He’s too good a QB to make mistakes like that.
I know Palmer can put up #’s that’s not my issue with him it’s the consistency I’m not getting. It’s too hit and miss we can that from Pryor. I know you don’t think the kid is ready and he may not be just yet. But trust me on this one, he aint that far away.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Tommy Boy Says: You are so clever with yo mama jokes . Are you stuck in the year 2000 ? Filthy b!tch !//////////////Damn! I’m stuck in the eighties Raider wise and the sixties musically. Maybe if I’m (or imma )looking for gridiron satisfaction it’s never gonna be what it was then and now it;ll be with the Ice cube crew( isn’t that old by now?)
September 20th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
The Giants just silenced the critics. They are the World Champs still. Eli Manning is still way better than Alex Smith!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Another thing to keep in mind is that Wiz was out for so long that the eventual starters really didn’t get to practice much together. This is essentially his preseason.
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I think he said Wiz had a grand total of six preseason snaps.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Bergstrom now is getting some work at offensive tackle, …………………………
Bergstrom was converted to guard as soon as he was selected by the Raiders in the third round of this year’s NFL draft.
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We’ll get it right just in time for the playoffs that we don’t make. SMH
September 20th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Hey Lefty12, how goes it? still fighting the good fight huh?
But I just love what Pryor brings to the table, understand though smarts has nothing to do with Pryor’s getting reps he just needs to continue to work on mechanics. Like I said B4 we drafted the kid he is the most competitive hate to lose QB you’ll find. He just competes on very down and reps is what can get him ready. If Reggie is smart and I mean this he’ll get this kid ready to start ASAP! Palmer is starting to frustrate me that gaff to Dmac in the redzone spoke volumns. He’s too good a QB to make mistakes like that.
I know Palmer can put up #’s that’s not my issue with him it’s the consistency I’m not getting. It’s too hit and miss we can that from Pryor. I know you don’t think the kid is ready and he may not be just yet. But trust me on this one, he aint that far away.
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Priest-
I’ve missed you OG. Is this really you though?lol
I’m used to you saying PERIOD, and other trademark BHP phrases!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RaiderDuck, thanks for stating the particulars of the bad contracts.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
303,
I agree, Hue never got a fair chance. He was Al’s guy, and Al passed. Mark, who Al handed the team to, decided to go another direction. I mean Hue cried on the field after the victory in the first game since Al’s passing. Then, when the season’s over, he’s gone. It wasn’t fair. Hue should have been given another year. And I said as much when Hue was fired. But now that Mark has decided to go another direction, I hope the new management gets their fair chance, too. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
What’s up Thec and fellas. Let me say this Routt got paid still, I said this B4 if you guys just don’t want to pay players don’t complain about the product. You cannot run a footbal team on a shoestring budget you have to pay someone. We let Bush go for $$ and Wimbley and Routt and now you have what for a secondary and no pass rush. You cannot win that way. We don’t have a single HB that can move the chains. Which would you rather have what have now and money or players……take your pick.
Reggie has to pay someone and player contracts will always be out of whack that is a GIVEN! But that is how YOU WIN………….period
September 20th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
303,
I agree, Hue never got a fair chance. He was Al’s guy, and Al passed. Mark, who Al handed the team to, decided to go another direction. I mean Hue cried on the field after the victory in the first game since Al’s passing. Then, when the season’s over, he’s gone. It wasn’t fair. Hue should have been given another year. And I said as much when Hue was fired. But now that Mark has decided to go another direction, I hope the new management gets their fair chance, too. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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A quick hook wouldn’t benefit anybody, and would just make it ten times harder to bring in anyone else decent. I can’t see Reggie getting anything less than three years, minimum.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Priest, I just posted and haven’t backtracked the last two hours and just wantd to say welcome back unlessyou are serious about starting TP. But even if you are we can discuss it reasonably. As I said, I’ve no idea what’s been said the last two hours. That’s not even remotely true, I’ve got a really good idea and could probably post an acceptable imitation of everybody’s posts, positive , negative, and ridiculous. Even sully’s, well actually,especially sully’s.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
What’s up Priest? Been awhile! Welcome back!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Deion Sanders twitter
DeionSandersVerified
@DeionSanders
Oakland Raiders will make u mad if u allow them to. Their to good to be that bad!
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Even deion gets it. Guys like LO, Woodson saying the scheme doesnt fit
September 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
What’s up Thec and fellas. Let me say this Routt got paid still, I said this B4 if you guys just don’t want to pay players don’t complain about the product. You cannot run a footbal team on a shoestring budget you have to pay someone. We let Bush go for $$ and Wimbley and Routt and now you have what for a secondary and no pass rush. You cannot win that way. We don’t have a single HB that can move the chains. Which would you rather have what have now and money or players……take your pick.
Reggie has to pay someone and player contracts will always be out of whack that is a GIVEN! But that is how YOU WIN………….period
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The problem is that Al was paying these guys WAY out of line with what they were producing. Wimbley and Routt were getting Mario Williams-level money, but were not producing to that level. Witness how both are now getting HALF of what they would have been receiving this year under their Al Davis contracts.
To put it another way, Al was paying champagne prices for beer. GOOD beer, but beer nonetheless.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
can’t Knapp just run a few SIMPLE runs for DMAC. watch his runs, its always a simple read, once cut usually a burst ahead. none of that hesitating, reading blocks or bouncing sideways.If Knapp can see this fact the Raiders can actually win SUNDAY.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Ive been saying play PRYOR since sunday.
You have a 23 yr old young hungry lion with fire and desire in his eyes chomping at the bit to play.
6ft 6 240 pounds who is the most athletic guy on the team outside DMAC just sitting on the sidline in steet clothes. Runs a 4.3
Palmer has already made his money and doesnt really show any emotion. You have to take into account that players feed off Emotion. Pryor can extend drives with just his feet alone. THe seattle commenator said it seems PRYOR is already one the best in the league at escaping pressure.
Like i said if Tannehill can play qb after only starting 15 games in college.. lets roll pryor out there. Shows the most heart on the team . watch. The kid has something to prove and is Al’s last draft pick. That means something to him
September 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Puddy Says: Steve- This is your best post EVER! I’m forwarding this to my friends and Comedy Central. They should be able to do a treatment on this./////////////////////Just learned how to copy and paste? This is his post we’re commenting on. We read it. Or not . It was up to us and we sure as sh1t didn’t need it repeated.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
The kid has something to prove and is Al’s last draft pick. That means something to him
True, but with that logic, it can also backfire on him…I have a feeling that Al’s guys will be gone within a year or two unless they step up (excluding DMAC)
September 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Priest Im with u on PRYOR man. These coaches seem to conservative to let him play though. They will play leinart way before pryor
September 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Ive been saying play PRYOR since sunday.
You have a 23 yr old young hungry lion with fire and desire in his eyes chomping at the bit to play.
6ft 6 240 pounds who is the most athletic guy on the team outside DMAC just sitting on the sidline in steet clothes. Runs a 4.3
Palmer has already made his money and doesnt really show any emotion. You have to take into account that players feed off Emotion. Pryor can extend drives with just his feet alone. THe seattle commenator said it seems PRYOR is already one the best in the league at escaping pressure.
Like i said if Tannehill can play qb after only starting 15 games in college.. lets roll pryor out there. Shows the most heart on the team . watch. The kid has something to prove and is Al’s last draft pick. That means something to him
>> i was thinking that if OAK loses Sunday to start Pryor the following week. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs anyways.see what Pryor’s got.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Welcome back Priest. Believe it or not, you were missed – PERIOD.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
@ Priesttj12,, The Raiders didn’t win with out of whack contracts. Let the season pan out, then critique.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
If this season goes down the tubes, I can see them going with Pryor at some point if only to definitively establish whether he can play QB at this level, which will go a long way to determining Reggie’s offseason strategy.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Look there are players on evry team getting money they shouldn’t. That will always be the case…..is Seymour worth what he’s getting???
This is the NFL all they have to do is cut you and move on. But their will always be bad contracts it’s a fact of life. If you think just because Reggies here we wont sign bad contracts just give it time…lol
Every GM signs them, Big Al was worse than most because he always felt the money should be on the field of play. Not in the owners bankacct. So sue him I always loved that about him. You can never say he didn’t do it.
If a coach wanted a player he got them for him. This idea that Reggie will reinvent the wheel or creat this streamline highly productive system is a pipedream. I told you guys from day one Reggie will stumble much more than he runs until he learns. Just watch and see…
September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Guess I’m getting testy and drinking ain’t helping. Well, it is, but not when it comes to dealing with imbecilic, no too harsh, uninformed or trolling commenters.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Im telling you if Pryor broke off half on the run he did in the lions game.. it would be a game changer!!
Roll the kid out on bootlegs too. The kid has elite speed. I dont care who u are if u let pryor get open nobody is catching him.. starters or not. He has a pretty live arm too.. its not like Palmer is hitting the target every time.
Im not saying Pryor is tebow.. but the donkeys were
1-4 and were boring last year b4 Tebow time
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
DJ Johnny, if you’ve stepped back from the ledge, throw me a rope.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Priesttj, glad to see Ya back, now all we need is some WINS!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Ok,..wow,..post 477,…lol,..I guess I shouldnt laugh,..but wow…when a person posts under one of his personas,..then switches to one of his others to cut and paste, then put it on his own previous,…wow,…really MR?…has it come to that?…take a step back bud and look at what youre doing…get a grip. Damn.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Thanks JB… I guess this aint such a bad place afterall lol
September 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
DJ Johnny, if you’ve stepped back from the ledge, throw me a rope.
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You’ve got it buddy.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Fact:
Greg Knapp has NEVER produced a top 10 offense in yards or points while running the ZBS.
Knapp’s most productive seasons as an OC came in SF from 2001 to 2003 and they did not run the ZBS, they ran a man-blocking scheme.
Knapp picked up the ZBS stuff once he went to Atlanta and met ZBS guru and OL Coach Alex Gibbs.
Here it is from Greg Knapp himself, these are bits taken from an interview when he was hired in Seattle back in 2009 as he explained his background:
“When I left San Francisco, where I had Jeff Garcia, Terrell Owens, JJ Stokes, Garrison Hearst, Brent Jones at the beginning of it, I had a lot of good talent outside … to a personnel group in Atlanta, where maybe we weren’t quite as pass-happy or strong in the passing game, but we were pretty strong in the run game.
So I had a whole other scheme to learn from.
Alex Gibbs was the O-line coach, that’s where we got to know each other.
That’s where the zone run game got exposed to me for the very first time.
Because I’ve had success–whether it was in San Francisco with the man blocking scheme, powers and counters and what have you, or even in the zone blocking scheme….”.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Look there are players on evry team getting money they shouldn’t. That will always be the case…..is Seymour worth what he’s getting???
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No he isn’t, but (thanks to another Al contract) it was either pay him $15 million this season to play for us, or $7.5 million to go play somewhere else.
Seymour unquestionably improved our defense over the last several years, but was NOT worth the #1 pick Al gave up for him.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Anyone have a comment on Fortune magazine listing McFadden as one of the top 10 overpaid players in the NFL today? (the 49ers had one too, guess who).
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
303,
I agree, Hue never got a fair chance. He was Al’s guy, and Al passed. Mark, who Al handed the team to, decided to go another direction. I mean Hue cried on the field after the victory in the first game since Al’s passing. Then, when the season’s over, he’s gone. It wasn’t fair. Hue should have been given another year. And I said as much when Hue was fired. But now that Mark has decided to go another direction, I hope the new management gets their fair chance, too. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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Despite all his flaws, Hue Jackson genuinely loved the Raiders and embraced the city of Oakland.
Anybody that genuinely loves the Oakland Raiders, is someone that I have genuine love for in return.
Dennis Allen gives me that Lane Kiffin feeling. I don’t think he loves the Raiders at all. He just wanted a head coaching job, and would would use us in a heartbeat to be a stepping stone to whatever he views his “Dream Job” as being.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Priestj, nice to see a familiar face.
No need to respond.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Ok,..wow,..post 477,…lol,..I guess I shouldnt laugh,..but wow…when a person posts under one of his personas,..then switches to one of his others to cut and paste, then put it on his own previous,…wow,…really MR?…has it come to that?…take a step back bud and look at what youre doing…get a grip. Damn.
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I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t sockpuppet here, and never have. This is the ONLY name I’ve ever posted under on this board.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Fact:
Greg Knapp has NEVER produced a top 10 offense in yards or points while running the ZBS.
Knapp’s most productive seasons as an OC came in SF from 2001 to 2003 and they did not run the ZBS, they ran a man-blocking scheme.
Knapp picked up the ZBS stuff once he went to Atlanta and met ZBS guru and OL Coach Alex Gibbs.
Here it is from Greg Knapp himself, these are bits taken from an interview when he was hired in Seattle back in 2009 as he explained his background:
“When I left San Francisco, where I had Jeff Garcia, Terrell Owens, JJ Stokes, Garrison Hearst, Brent Jones at the beginning of it, I had a lot of good talent outside … to a personnel group in Atlanta, where maybe we weren’t quite as pass-happy or strong in the passing game, but we were pretty strong in the run game.
So I had a whole other scheme to learn from.
Alex Gibbs was the O-line coach, that’s where we got to know each other.
That’s where the zone run game got exposed to me for the very first time.
Because I’ve had success–whether it was in San Francisco with the man blocking scheme, powers and counters and what have you, or even in the zone blocking scheme….”.
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Amen. That’s why this whole infatuation with Greg Knapp makes absolutely no sense!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Lol, ok Duck,..whatever all of you say,..nighty night.
(your secrets safe with me)
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Man ive been saying there has only been two coaches that truly knew what it meant to be a Raider.. or bought into Raider football.
Jon Gruden and Hue Jackson. Well even tom cable guy to some extent. We had hue as our coach. Now all gone.
Allen didnt even have on any raider gear in his monday presser. Looked kid on his first day of junior high with his sears shirt tucked into his dockers.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
The only thing that gives me hope in this season is the fact that Black Hole Priest has returned!
That man knows how to create a ‘bright light at the end of the tunnel’ at an execution.lol
September 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Ive been saying play PRYOR since sunday.
You have a 23 yr old young hungry lion with fire and desire in his eyes chomping at the bit to play.
6ft 6 240 pounds who is the most athletic guy on the team outside DMAC just sitting on the sidline in steet clothes. Runs a 4.3
Palmer has already made his money and doesnt really show any emotion. You have to take into account that players feed off Emotion. Pryor can extend drives with just his feet alone. THe seattle commenator said it seems PRYOR is already one the best in the league at escaping pressure.
Like i said if Tannehill can play qb after only starting 15 games in college.. lets roll pryor out there. Shows the most heart on the team . watch. The kid has something to prove and is Al’s last draft pick. That means something to him
>> i was thinking that if OAK loses Sunday to start Pryor the following week. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs anyways.see what Pryor’s got.
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http://www.playpryornow.org/what_have_you_got_to_lose%%
September 20th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
You guys have to be joking or have given up on the year already. I would absolutely start TPryor over Lienart once I had given up on the season. Have you seen Pryor when he looks good? Damn, he looks good. Have you seen him when he looks bad? Wow, and that was preseason. Yeah, put Pryor in against the Steelers “D” . Hell, ask Pryor if he thinks he offers anything but an occasional run to recommend him over Palmer. This is absolute dementia settling in of a kind that big Al certainly never experienced when drafting the boy you think is the next RGBIII. Next time you think it, preface that thought with ‘I have already given up’. I will rarely say that.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Figure:
28 points.
The key number for the Raiders in the 2011 season.
The Raiders won EVERY game when the Defense allowed less than 28 points last season.
Which obviously leads to…
The Raiders allowed at least 28 points in EVERY loss last year.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
MR.
Solid points lately man.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Man ive been saying there has only been two coaches that truly knew what it meant to be a Raider.. or bought into Raider football.
Jon Gruden and Hue Jackson. Well even tom cable guy to some extent. We had hue as our coach. Now all gone.
Allen didnt even have on any raider gear in his monday presser. Looked kid on his first day of junior high with his sears shirt tucked into his dockers.
>> really man? so Madden,Flores and Shell we Fugazai’s?
September 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
bottom line is we know how this season will turn out. the zbs doesnt fit this offense period. Al didnt like it.. which is why he brought in hue.
We are doing everything opposite we are suppose to. Going the wrong way. Rod Woodson, Lo Neal, Romo, Deion sanders, Papa all trippin out the way the raiders are doing things right now. Allen is sending Lance Kiffen type vibes right now
September 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Cranberry Says: >> i was thinking that if OAK loses Sunday to start Pryor the following week. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs anyways.see what Pryor’s got.///////////////////////Perfect example. We are fvcked let’s fvck the rest of the season. Remember the same sentiment with Tuiasosopa. Whom I also had high hopes for.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Man ive been saying there has only been two coaches that truly knew what it meant to be a Raider.. or bought into Raider football.
Jon Gruden and Hue Jackson. Well even tom cable guy to some extent. We had hue as our coach. Now all gone.
Allen didnt even have on any raider gear in his monday presser. Looked kid on his first day of junior high with his sears shirt tucked into his dockers.
>> really man? so Madden,Flores and Shell we Fugazai’s?
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opps I meant to say the last ten years. Since 02
September 20th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
You guys have to be joking or have given up on the year already. I would absolutely start TPryor over Lienart once I had given up on the season. Have you seen Pryor when he looks good? Damn, he looks good. Have you seen him when he looks bad? Wow, and that was preseason. Yeah, put Pryor in against the Steelers “D” . Hell, ask Pryor if he thinks he offers anything but an occasional run to recommend him over Palmer. This is absolute dementia settling in of a kind that big Al certainly never experienced when drafting the boy you think is the next RGBIII. Next time you think it, preface that thought with ‘I have already given up’. I will rarely say that.
>> 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs. Is Palmer the future? if not then why not see what Pryor can do? season IS LOST if OAK falls to 0-3. History shows it.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Cranberry Says: >> i was thinking that if OAK loses Sunday to start Pryor the following week. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs anyways.see what Pryor’s got.///////////////////////Perfect example. We are fvcked let’s fvck the rest of the season. Remember the same sentiment with Tuiasosopa. Whom I also had high hopes for.
>> whats the Goal here? PLAYOFFS period. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs. so if Palmer isn’t the Franchise why play him when the season is lost? Raiders will need to figure what direction to go in. need to ses of Pryor can play. or we’ll drfat a QB next year. either way 0-3 teams DON’T make the playoffs so why play palmer all year?
September 20th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
lol cherry picking the KC game when they had there backup qb in? dmac goes down.. then uses it as a exhbition for PALMER?
how about looking at the second KC game?? Deep strikes to moore then DHB in OT.. The special teams call that was called back. Not to mention how hard the players were playing for hue. How about that one?
I see these players are playing extra hard for allen so far
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Who the eff was the HC of the Raiders during that time. He didnt have Al Davis breathing down his neck either. So isnt it the HC’s job to make sure #2 is absolutely ready to play in the nfl since he knew full well that #2 QB was starting? It’s also the same guy he coached up in Balt. Yeah exhibition when we were in the middle of a playoff chase. Wow what a nice HC we got there. And you support that guy?
Who decided to put Palmer in there when he didnt even knwo the playbook? 28-0 was what we ended with.
Oh the 2nd KC game? We scored a whopping 13 points through 4qtrs. Yeah baby how about that 2nd game…13 points under Hue Jack City baby!!!! Yeahh Explosive Offense or is it more “offensive” offense?!!!!!! (smh)
September 20th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Man ive been saying there has only been two coaches that truly knew what it meant to be a Raider.. or bought into Raider football.
Jon Gruden and Hue Jackson. Well even tom cable guy to some extent. We had hue as our coach. Now all gone.
Allen didnt even have on any raider gear in his monday presser. Looked kid on his first day of junior high with his sears shirt tucked into his dockers.
>> really man? so Madden,Flores and Shell we Fugazai’s?
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opps I meant to say the last ten years. Since 02
>>> i like the idea of a HC with defensive background coming here. hopfully DA can get it going. penalties have already dropped 11 in 2 games. we had 15 penalties in last years opener against denver
September 20th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Deion Sanders twitter
DeionSandersVerified
@DeionSanders
Oakland Raiders will make u mad if u allow them to. Their to good to be that bad!
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Even deion gets it. Guys like LO, Woodson saying the scheme doesnt fit
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My man primetime the GOAT of dbs. seems like everybody gets except hue haters
September 20th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I haven’t posted in a while because I just don’t feel inclined to. But my observations are that Reggie is doing everything he can as are the coaches. They are just new at their jobs and it’s going to take some time. I definitely think Reggie acted in haste in some critical situations and it’s coming back to bite him. Live and learn, letting Bush go is a mistake that is hurting this team. Not giving the young DB’s(Chekwa and DVD) a chance to learn the system IMO was also a hasty move. They are press corners playing zone which takes time.
Dmac is having a tough time with the timing of the ZBS you cannot attack the hole the wya he does you have to let things develope in front of then burst through. My frustration has been with the QB primarily, he’s vet and needs to be more of a leader and mostly PLAY BETTER. He’s missing way too many throws and stopping drives. I know the running game is a factor but Palmer needs to lift the offense that why he gets the $$$.
THis is the first time in 15 years we haven’t had a solid to great corner in this secondary IMO Routt is hands down better than anyone I’ve seen and would’ve been a huge help.
The last thing I’ll say is they need to run TJ more if he can run down on kicks he can run in the backfield so play the kid all he’s use to is the ZBS, why haven’t we seen him?? and man get the ball to Ausberry and Reece and take the pressure off the offense.
Also I think they are missing out on playing Pryor in some situations to give him some reps. The coaches are sleeping on this kid he’s much better than they and anyone else thinks he is. This kid is very close to being a starter than poeple want to believe.
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No offense, but this post sounds alot like Mistic. Liek a watered down version. I’m enuff of a vet here to remember the “black hole priest”. Nice to see u back if it’s really u.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
There will be blood!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Deion Sanders twitter
DeionSandersVerified
@DeionSanders
Oakland Raiders will make u mad if u allow them to. Their to good to be that bad!
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Even deion gets it. Guys like LO, Woodson saying the scheme doesnt fit
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My man primetime the GOAT of dbs. seems like everybody gets except hue haters
>>> Deon was a beast but I’ve got to go with Charles Woodson myself.a complete corner
September 20th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
Despite all his flaws, Hue Jackson genuinely loved the Raiders and embraced the city of Oakland.
Anybody that genuinely loves the Oakland Raiders, is someone that I have genuine love for in return.
Dennis Allen gives me that Lane Kiffin feeling. I don’t think he loves the Raiders at all. He just wanted a head coaching job, and would would use us in a heartbeat to be a stepping stone to whatever he views his “Dream Job” as being.///////////////////////////////////Wow! I agree 100% on Kiffin and don’t have a clue how you don’t see the same in Hue Jackson.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
HOLLA
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Charles Woodson= Stanford Routt when he left!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Deion was not even the greatest cornerback ever, let alone defensive back.
Cornerback, he’s probably in the top 5, all-time.
DB, I’d put him in the top 10.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
Despite all his flaws, Hue Jackson genuinely loved the Raiders and embraced the city of Oakland.
Anybody that genuinely loves the Oakland Raiders, is someone that I have genuine love for in return.
Dennis Allen gives me that Lane Kiffin feeling. I don’t think he loves the Raiders at all. He just wanted a head coaching job, and would would use us in a heartbeat to be a stepping stone to whatever he views his “Dream Job” as being.///////////////////////////////////Wow! I agree 100% on Kiffin and don’t have a clue how you don’t see the same in Hue Jackson.
> so you’re saying that Allen wants to coach in the SEC maybe? hopefully Reggie is a better judge of character than that.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Charles Woodson= Stanford Routt when he left!
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Charles Woodson=Stanford Routt + better coverage skills – a whole bunch of stupid penalties.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Charles Woodson= Stanford Routt when he left!
> really man? 1st ballot hall of famer.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
I think everyone Sucking right now!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Lester Hayes was the best CB, ever.
Nnamdi #2.
C Woodson #3.
Mike Haynes #4.
’nuff said, go to bed.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
manassamauler Says: >> whats the Goal here? PLAYOFFS period. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs. so if Palmer isn’t the Franchise why play him when the season is lost? Raiders will need to figure what direction to go in. need to ses of Pryor can play. or we’ll drfat a QB next year. either way 0-3 teams DON’T make the playoffs so why play palmer all year?///////////////////////// So cut Palmer now? don’t play him. I’m not understanding. Or are we assuming we lost against pitt already?
September 20th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Charles Woodson= Stanford Routt when he left!
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Charles Woodson=Stanford Routt + better coverage skills – a whole bunch of stupid penalties.
>> + better coverage skills is pretty much the whole point here. deon sanders = stanford routt with better coverage skills too. CW didn’t get burned or have penalties like Routt did, i dont see a valid comparison. one is a future hall of famer and heisman winner, the other is a buster
September 20th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Raider Duck remembers! I still got my Woodson, bUt he was a jersey pulling PI alot!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
urvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
manassamauler Says: >> whats the Goal here? PLAYOFFS period. 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs. so if Palmer isn’t the Franchise why play him when the season is lost? Raiders will need to figure what direction to go in. need to ses of Pryor can play. or we’ll drfat a QB next year. either way 0-3 teams DON’T make the playoffs so why play palmer all year?///////////////////////// So cut Palmer now? don’t play him. I’m not understanding. Or are we assuming we lost against pitt already?
>> I am assuming we lose to pittsburg UNLESS Knapp wakes up and changes things up quick. need the old Air Coryell offense sunday, best offense out there STILL
September 20th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
By the way, I am one of those who think Palmer is, or could have been, the franchise QB for a couple of years. Admittedly, with Knapp, I’m having my doubts.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
He came around in GB, but those last 2yrs for us! We didnt complain when he left!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Bring back Philip Buchanon!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
manassamauler Says: ///////// OK, Manassamauler, we agree and in a gesture of good faith, I’ll include the first letter of your name in my response.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
He came around in GB, but those last 2yrs for us! We didnt complain when he left!
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He obviously didn’t want to be here, tried to force a trade during his final offseason, and then was mysteriously “hurt” and sat out 11 games.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Although I forgot to capitalize it.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
He came around in GB, but those last 2yrs for us! We didnt complain when he left!
>> CW was good 98-01, then got hurt. but Routt doesn’t compare. ASO was actually a better M2M corner who should have never left, been exposed in Philly
September 20th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
525,
The guy cried after beating Houston and then choked up in the lockerroom afterwords…After the KC game he looked like he was gonna collapse…I see that as genuine emotional investment. I don’t know why everyone thinks that was phony.
He talked alot about “that’s not Raider football” etc. and I think he genuinely appreciated the opportunity to represent the S and B and was in for the long haul.
I always talked about how much he appreciated the fans and he was genuinely (i thought) really upset that they couldn’t win in front of “our great fans”..he even said we “deserved better”.
Why does everyone think that was all fake?
People say they saw a guy who was power hungry and I saw a guy who was just confident in his ability to lead the team.
I didn’t get the whole “charlatan”, “pimp” or “snake oil salesman” stuff guys said about him.
We can agree to disagree on this one…I know i’m one of the few who saw him this way.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Bring back Philip Buchanon!
>> that guy had a good rookie season and then…..
September 20th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I know everyone including me is upset with Knapp but truth be told it’s not so much the system as it the playcalling. The system is not my favorite by any means but I have issues with the utilization of talent and the playcalling.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
You guys have to be joking or have given up on the year already. I would absolutely start TPryor over Lienart once I had given up on the season. Have you seen Pryor when he looks good? Damn, he looks good. Have you seen him when he looks bad? Wow, and that was preseason. Yeah, put Pryor in against the Steelers “D” . Hell, ask Pryor if he thinks he offers anything but an occasional run to recommend him over Palmer. This is absolute dementia settling in of a kind that big Al certainly never experienced when drafting the boy you think is the next RGBIII. Next time you think it, preface that thought with ‘I have already given up’. I will rarely say that.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Remember when he broke his leg And was playing 2 weeks later! Al had some crazy DR.s
September 20th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Hue was a genuine guy who cared about his job. BUT he was NOT GOOD as a HC.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
You guys have to be joking or have given up on the year already. I would absolutely start TPryor over Lienart once I had given up on the season. Have you seen Pryor when he looks good? Damn, he looks good. Have you seen him when he looks bad? Wow, and that was preseason. Yeah, put Pryor in against the Steelers “D” . Hell, ask Pryor if he thinks he offers anything but an occasional run to recommend him over Palmer. This is absolute dementia settling in of a kind that big Al certainly never experienced when drafting the boy you think is the next RGBIII. Next time you think it, preface that thought with ‘I have already given up’. I will rarely say that.
>> season is over if OAK loses sunday.the end
September 20th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
I liked Philip! My first Authentic jerey! 2months later traded!!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
I like Pryor all day,every day, over Leinart
September 20th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Well, Knapp got input from Palmer vis a vie Pittsburgh.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Two things we can establish as near fact:
If Jason Campbell never gets injured, we would have won the division easily.
If Hue Jackson had been given one more year with a good defensive coordinator, we are at least a wildcard this year.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
One thing Knapps doing that i do like- BOOTLEGS!!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The playcalling is hideous. Throw long on 1st down, incomplete, and now, nobody’s expecting a hand off to Dmac on 2nd and now its 3rd and 7,8,maybe 12 and gee, you think we might pass? I was half drunk and knew what they were going to do half the time. Had I known you could make a good living while half drunk I would have paid more attention to athletics in school and foregone the astrophysics. Not that I wound up there either but I could talk your ears off if you dared.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Not to beat this Hue stuff to death but when have u ever heard DA even mention the fans at all? Or when has he ever said “Raider football” or anything regarding our history..outside of the opening presser when he was just brought on.
I know some guys see that as a welcome departure from guys that gave lip service to the “greatness of the Raiduhs” and find it refreshing that he says nothing about our history or that he doesn’t use any Raider propaganda terminology that it shows he’s taking us into a “new era” but he really has not acknowledged the fans at all…for anything.
Alot of guys say that he shouldn’t care about any of that stuff cuz they want us to be less “unique” from the rest of the league.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
There was some descent pass plays the FIRST HALF of the Miami game as i rewatched
September 20th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
It will be interesting to see if there’s any adjustments in the Playcalling this week. Particularity on 3rd down. Will they throw to the sticks.. Is it going to be all DMAC.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Its over- GET OVER IT!!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
All eyes on Knapp! And everyone knows it!!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
I wanna see Ausberry pimp slap a Steeler!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
All eyes on Knapp! And everyone knows it!!
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Whether or not Knapp is fired soon or not, our voices of discontent have definitely put Knapp on the hot seat.
That in itself is worth the effort. Knapp realizes he will be held accountable by the Raider Nation. This ain’t no free ride just because he and Dennis Allen are gold buddies.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I know some guys see that as a welcome departure from guys that gave lip service to the “greatness of the Raiduhs” and find it refreshing that he says nothing about our history or that he doesn’t use any Raider propaganda terminology that it shows he’s taking us into a “new era” but he really has not acknowledged the fans at all…for anything.
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He’s never been an HC before and spent his pre-2011 career as a position coach, where nobody outside the team really cares WHAT you think. Hue loved the camera. DA doesn’t. This is not a bad thing in itself; Bill Belichick has never had much use for the media, and Bill Parcells was openly hostile to them when he was with the Giants.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Three strikes im out!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
So, I’m relaxing while a totally hot stripper from spearmint rhino is blowing me, and she says she has a friend coming over to join us. Of course, I say no prob.
As I’m leaning back in my beanbag, and totally blown by the joint I smoked and some off the hook margs from the Party Boy 2000, in a nice semidream state, in walks her friend. I motion her friend over to join in and her friend goes down to lick the balls. After a while, they switch it up and I’m really digging it.
I’m totally frenching the stripper and then I motion to have them switch. Now I’m tongue tied with her friend. After a while her friend says into my ear, “you’re so hot.” and I realize it’s her friend Alex, who ha given me some lap dances at the club. Alex is a dude but he really knows how to get it done, so I just sat back and let it happen. After I was done, I spooned with them both for a while.
It’s all good. HOLLA!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
If they suck Sunday- media gonna chase Reggie,DA,and Knapp all the way to the locker room!! They dont want that! DA wants a victory! He doesnt have one as HC
September 20th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
ArmChair GM Says
Two things we can establish as near fact:
If Jason Campbell never gets injured, we would have won the division easily.
If Hue Jackson had been given one more year with a good defensive coordinator, we are at least a wildcard this year.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Jason without Dmac? Certainly not ‘easily’ . I liked Jason and with Bush and with Hue’s play calling yeah, maybe. This year with Hue with Who? Way to speculative. And remember, I really liked Hue’s play calling.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
303Raider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Ok Hue lovers, he gave up a kings ransom for Carson Palmer, sorry, Hue went 1-4 down the stretch and flapped his gums, no way Carson was worth it, no way!
We should have promoted Saunders, why that didn’t happen is more of a mystery then letting Hue go.
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Ok Hue haters. Once again….it was the freakin defense that cost this team the division and the playoffs last year.
Yes, Hue gave up a lot for Palmer, but it was a better alternative than letting Boller play the rest of the year. Hue was going for the division.
If we had a competent DC, the Raiders would have went 12-4 last year.
Al screwed that one up when he hired Chuck B as DC.
Then all Davis and McK had to do was keep Hue and hire a REAL D-Coach to fix the D and work on the penalty issue and work on the cap.
The offensive system that was in place the last two years didn’t need to be touched!
Davis and McK screwed up….and now this team is in unofficial rebuilding mode!
Terrible!
September 20th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
This ain’t no free ride just because Knapp and Dennis Allen are gold buddies.
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Yet another benefit to the traditional management structure we now have: Hiring Knapp was 100% DA’s idea, and so DA will be held 100% accountable for Knapp’s offense. This is in contrast to Hue or Cable claiming they were stuck with this assistant or that assistant because management wanted it that way. This is also why, if Knapp’s playcalling is determined to be the problem, DA will have no qualms about handing playcalling over to Saunders or even doing it himself.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
If they suck Sunday- media gonna chase Reggie,DA,and Knapp all the way to the locker room!! They dont want that! DA wants a victory! He doesnt have one as HC./////////////////Seymour IS still on the payroll: We might as well use him for something.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I know some guys see that as a welcome departure from guys that gave lip service to the “greatness of the Raiduhs” and find it refreshing that he says nothing about our history or that he doesn’t use any Raider propaganda terminology that it shows he’s taking us into a “new era” but he really has not acknowledged the fans at all…for anything.
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He’s never been an HC before and spent his pre-2011 career as a position coach, where nobody outside the team really cares WHAT you think. Hue loved the camera. DA doesn’t. This is not a bad thing in itself; Bill Belichick has never had much use for the media, and Bill Parcells was openly hostile to them when he was with the Giants.
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At least Hue turned the offense around and gave this team a chance at being competitive again.
I knew it was a dumb move to fire him after only one year!
3 head coaches in 3 years is never a good sign for a franchise or organization.
The players get tired of the constant change.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Expect the pleasancies to go so much farther before DA slap the headset off of Knapp and says ” wtf crackerjack,pop warner, flag football plays are u running here! I cant take this shyit anymore!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I totally doesn’t matter if you let a guy blow you. It all feels the same if you close your eyes. Just keeping it real.
TWIZZLE!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
DKnight007 Says: Terrible!//////////Thought that was ‘turble’.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
303Raider Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Ok Hue lovers, he gave up a kings ransom for Carson Palmer, sorry, Hue went 1-4 down the stretch and flapped his gums, no way Carson was worth it, no way!
We should have promoted Saunders, why that didn’t happen is more of a mystery then letting Hue go.
^^^^^^^^^
Ok Hue haters. Once again….it was the freakin defense that cost this team the division and the playoffs last year.
Yes, Hue gave up a lot for Palmer, but it was a better alternative than letting Boller play the rest of the year. Hue was going for the division.
If we had a competent DC, the Raiders would have went 12-4 last year.
Al screwed that one up when he hired Chuck B as DC.
Then all Davis and McK had to do was keep Hue and hire a REAL D-Coach to fix the D and work on the penalty issue and work on the cap.
The offensive system that was in place the last two years didn’t need to be touched!
Davis and McK screwed up….and now this team is in unofficial rebuilding mode!
Terrible!
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And that is the other reason why Davis and McK screwed up by getting rid of Hue.
Hue trade for Palmer, so they should have at least let Hue and Palmer develop and work together for a full season!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Plamer back he’s gonna throw over the middle! Denarius Moore 50,40, 30 there not gonna catch him! 20,10,5 TOUCHDOWN!! RRRAAAAAAIDERS!!! Peace!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
FVKK Hue Jackson!!!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
KING KONG AINT GOT NOTHING ON ME!!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
3 head coaches in 3 years is never a good sign for a franchise or organization.
The players get tired of the constant change.
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Which is why, barring an 0-16 season, DA will be back next year and the year after. And this is a good thing. I believe DA will be very successful long-term, but even if he isn’t, Reggie needs to show future coaching candidates that we will stick with them and give them a chance to turn things around. Al’s quick hook REALLY hurt us in that department.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Suck me beechy.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Thinking about calling Alex up to see if he wants to watch Lethal Weapon 3 and smoke a doob. I’ll pretend to be out of it so he can rub my Lethal Weapon, if you know what I mean. I won’t even care if he kisses me afterward, because it’s totally not gay. Seriously.
HOLLA!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Ok, Seymour Bust. I told you I’m not gay so sorry. I just don’t care if a dude who totally looks like a stripper strokes the Beeech Lawg. If he rubs himself on me, I just pretend it’s the remote!
FO SHIZZLE!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I totally doesn’t matter if you let a guy blow you. It all feels the same if you close your eyes. Just keeping it real.
TWIZZLE!
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Guess you watched too much day time TV and ripped off the word “twizzle”. It’s been around for about 30 yrs on the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Dick Van Dyke, etc.
As far as getting a getting a bj from a male, why not just come out and admit you are bi-sexual?
September 20th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Just totally let a stripper named Candy and her friend Alex eat the brown hole. HOLLA! Nice! Even returned the favor for both of them. I’m a fair guy. Poured some margs down their cracks and put some salt on their thighs. It was no big deal that Alex had the balls hanging down. I just flicked them and slurped.
HOLLA!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
585,
It’s just some guy who has a bone to pick with Beech and hacked his handle.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I totally doesn’t matter if you let a guy blow you. It all feels the same if you close your eyes. Just keeping it real.
TWIZZLE!
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Guess you watched too much day time TV and ripped off the word “twizzle”. It’s been around for about 30 yrs on the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Dick Van Dyke, etc.
As far as getting a getting a bj from a male, why not just come out and admit you are bi-sexual?
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Nice try KrappyRat. No way am I gay. I just know when not to stop the party. Letting Alex rub one out on me isn’t gay. It’s just a party. I love the strippers. And Alex looks totally like Paris Hilton, just a little thicker boned.
FO SHIZZLE!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Ok, Seymour Bust. I told you I’m not gay so sorry. I just don’t care if a dude who totally looks like a stripper strokes the Beeech Lawg. If he rubs himself on me, I just pretend it’s the remote!
FO SHIZZLE!
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Besides all your other fraudster actions, pretending to be a rapper and music producer, living in a suite in the Ritz in the Marina, using Wrecks n’ Effect for which you would be sued in a straight up minute by the true Wrecks n’ Effects out of NYC, Rasta Ganja playing in SD, you’ve now taken to log smoking.
Well, I always wondered why you emphasized excretory function, and bragged about your “big log” to a bunch of male bloggers; now we know: you are gay.
Nothing wrong with that, just admit it.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
585,
It’s just some guy who has a bone to pick with Beech and hacked his handle.
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It’s all good DJ. I know you’re on of my Beeech Boys. PMPP in full effect! If you ever partied on the reggae boat, we’d get mad blunted and come back to the pad. Strippers, weed, and margs! Who cares at the end of the night who gets you off? True playas let it swing. I might even pick your bone!
PMPP in the HIZZIE!
DJ Johnny knows how to party!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Believe me .. Allen/ Knapp are feeling the pressure already. Knapp is over here talking before questions are being asked to the media.. screaming patience with smirks on his face
Allen is telling the media certainly there is a sense of urgency. So which is guys? FCK!! Say what u want about hue .. he gave u something to cheer for and being on ur seat about. Its gonna take a while for some fans to get over hue.. because Allen / knapp has shown zero so far. ZERO. Did I mention HUE didnt even have an offseason last year?
September 20th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Via twitter Rachel Nichols@Rachel__Nichols
Cam Newton postgame: “Who wants to support that embarrassment? If I were a fan of the Panthers, I’d be holding my head down in shame.”
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Whens the last time Palmer or any Raider said anything of this sort? Its always we gonna watch the film and just wait till we start clicking
September 20th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
This totally hot stripper just smoked the Beeech Lawg while poking me in the deuce dumper. With a carrot! Now that’s some salad tossing! Alex helped out with the carrot after a while. Might have been his carrot, but let it swing, baby! Just letting them take over and drive was what I needed to end the party right!
TWIZZLE MY NIZZLE!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Danny is by far MR’s truest and most heartfelt appellation yet
September 20th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
585,
It’s just some guy who has a bone to pick with Beech and hacked his handle.
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It’s all good DJ. I know you’re on of my Beeech Boys. PMPP in full effect! If you ever partied on the reggae boat, we’d get mad blunted and come back to the pad. Strippers, weed, and margs! Who cares at the end of the night who gets you off? True playas let it swing. I might even pick your bone!
PMPP in the HIZZIE!
DJ Johnny knows how to party!
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Argh!!! You are just a tranny Dawg. A fool like you doesn’t have the funds or wherewithal to gain anything you’ve described above: party boat, strippers, etc. etc.
The thing about is no one, including DJ will ever see any of it, because it doesn’t exist.
Your best bet is to buy a rubber duck and toy boat, and truck down to the nearest bath house in west Hollywood.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: /////////////Didn’t know about this one. Sybil, it is.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Off to bed nerds. Gonna let Alex hang out and sleep over. Candy has to work at the mall in the morning. Alex and I will watch some show I totally never watched on Bravo that he likes. I’m totally wasted so who knows what will happen. Looking forward to Alex making me breakfast in the morning and maybe pretending I’m asleep while he humps my leg.
HOLLA!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Man you Hue lovers kill me.
Hue’s offense in the final 5 games down the stretch.
14, 16, 27, 16 (OT) and 26. We went 1-4 in all those games. Can we please stop with this revisionist crap? Under Hue, we scored zero points, 9 points, 3 points, and another 13 points during his tenure here for 32 games. Some offensive genius that dude was. (rolling my eyes)
September 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
hahahahahahahahah!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Beech,
Grab that rubber ducky baby and toy boat, and go get your freak on!!
Talk about an unabashed log smoking strumpet…….egads!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
I’m not gay. And licking it a little doesn’t mean I smoked it all the way, right?
FO SHIZZLE!
September 20th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says: It’s just some guy who has a bone to pick with Beech and hacked his handle.////////////////That’s putting it mildly with raiderone. He has many, many, bones to attend to as a 49er fan.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
beechy I thought I was the only one. Except for that freak that had herpes. I know it itches but come back to daddy
September 20th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
For you guys screaming about Hue having to play with backups last year….here is a quote from today’s pft post. Now that is a real coach they got in NY.
But Coughlin’s team beat the Panthers about the head and shoulders, with backups doing the bulk of the work. Running back Andre Brown had 20 carries for 113 yards and two touchdowns, and wide receiver Ramses Barden had nine catches for 138 yards, and was uncoverable early.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Damn, I’m talking to 14 MR’s ad no-one else. Thats OK
Sully, say something to stop me from going to sleep or going to play with my ubuntu again.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says: It’s just some guy who has a bone to pick with Beech and hacked his handle.////////////////That’s putting it mildly with raiderone. He has many, many, bones to attend to as a 49er fan.
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Purvis,
I have no bones to pick with the 49′ers at all, especially considering they are the success story the Raiders should have become.
Also, after being semi-entertained by Beeech Dawg for such a long time, listening to his claims and knowing they were all misrepresentations yet playing along with them anyway, I was rather shocking he fell to such low levels.
Could be someone jacked his handle. Doesn’t seem like him to me.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
one time I sodomized beech dawg with a broom handle. it had lupe on it. still sodomized himn though
September 20th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
one time I sodomized beech dawg with a broom handle. it had lupe on it. still sodomized himn though
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I don’t believe it.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Raidersone, lame try.
September 20th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
one time I sodomized beech dawg with a broom handle. it had lupe on it. still sodomized himn though
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I don’t believe it.
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Seymour Nob Bust just likes to pretend he’s my lover cuz he’s really gay. But the PMPP knows when it’s just partying. FO SHIZZLE!
RaidersOne is down. The PMPP has each other’s backsides. It’s all good whoever’s stroking the wood. Pretty sure RaidersOne knows the score.
HOLLA!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:02 am
RaidersOne Says: That’s putting it mildly .I have many, many, bones to attend to as a 49er fan.Also, after being semi-entertained by Beeech Dawg for such a long time, with a broom handle, I was rather shocked he fell to such low levels.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:02 am
Beeech Dawg is seriously considering letting this stripper Alex move in and be my house boy. Nice to change it up now and then. With a mask on and a tight jock strap, you don’t even really notice the junk down low. Just give the Beeech a lubed up party hole, and some margs to numb it up, and it’s a party like it’s 1999!
HOLLA TRUE PLAYAS! PMPP IN FULL EFFECT!
BEEECH BOYS RaidersOne and DJ Johnny know what’s up!
My ding a ling!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:09 am
Meanwhile, Alex is straight up entertaining me. With his tongue! He’s still got makeup and his wig on from the club so it’s totally like Paris Hilton is blowing me. I told him I won’t smoke the pole though. Not until morning anyway, when I’ll be totally out of it and won’t know what I’m doing. Wink Wink. But I did agree to to dip his nads in some salt and slurp some margs from his stinky. It’s basically the same as a chic anyway. He’s totally waxed and clean from the hot tub. A hole is a hole. HOLLA!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:10 am
Alex is my new Party Boy 2000!
NIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:12 am
anymore beech and i will go against every grain of my self and ask you to be banned. AS Purvisman aka Intrepid and my new moniker will be Full Disclosure. Don’t need a gay bar here.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:13 am
DJ Johnny
Raider O
Hardline (aka Big Nasty)
DMAC R8ER Mike
Bo Schembechler Jackson
Dan78
Hwnrdr
Hairy Bush
RaiderLen
Plunketthead
All the Beeech Boys are down low witht the PMPP in FULL EFFECT!
Just keeping it real.
HOLLA!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:15 am
Purvisman Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:12 am
anymore beech and i will go against every grain of my self and ask you to be banned. AS Purvisman aka Intrepid and my new moniker will be Full Disclosure. Don’t need a gay bar here.
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Totally not gay nerd. Just a party.
HOLLA!
Going to sleep on the waterbed. Alex will sing me to sleep.
Nice meltdown nervous Purvis.
OUT!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:23 am
This comment is not relevant to the conversation
September 21st, 2012 at 12:23 am
nervous Purvis, another testament to your originality. how long do you think I was in grade, no kindergarten before I heard that the first time.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:27 am
I thought this was a place for Raider fans…
September 21st, 2012 at 12:27 am
That was a meltdown beeeeeeeeeeech or however many ee’s are in b—tch. Too many beers and you did finally get on my nerves.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:29 am
Whoa
September 21st, 2012 at 12:30 am
Sparkles
September 21st, 2012 at 12:32 am
Hu hu hu he said get on
September 21st, 2012 at 12:32 am
MaxtallicA Says: I thought this was a place for Raider fans…//////////////As did I and now I’m too jaded to talk Silver and Black and am going to watch Airplane! oops comcast fvcked up now its Overboard. I don’t know about that but Goldie is pretty hot.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:38 am
DMC wasnt running for 10 yard losses last season and we didnt even have a training camp..so something aint right
September 21st, 2012 at 12:56 am
I’ve said it before. Best evidence Al Davis was still entirely with it (compos mentis) was the gag order he imposed on Huebris during his first six months here. Al knew exactly who Hue was.
September 21st, 2012 at 1:46 am
Times must be bad when fans are dreaming of the 8-8 Hue Jack’ times. Let’s give Allen/Knapp/Tarver/Reggie some time here. What’s with this “instance” sucess thing? I feel we’ll do good things this season and build some solid foundations for next season.
Go Raiders!
September 21st, 2012 at 2:55 am
Roethlisberger’s generosity in the form of handing out a grant to the Oakland Police Department
“their front seven, and especially their D-line, is just phenomenal.”
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in other words, Big Ben is saying to the Raiders defense & the Oakland community “don’t hurt me!!”
September 21st, 2012 at 2:57 am
Knapp said rookie Tony Bergstrom is progressing well. He also said that Bergstrom now is getting some work at offensive tackle, Bergstrom’s natural position, in light of the groin injury to starting right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes.
Bergstrom was converted to guard as soon as he was selected by the Raiders in the third round of this year’s NFL draft.
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well it’s about freakin’ time !!
Bergs should have been working at RT since the day he was drafted, competing with Barnes and the bum Barksdale
September 21st, 2012 at 3:11 am
encouraging news that ROMAC & Coye Francies are practicing (like Condo) post concussions
oddly enough, if Hanson & Lee get abused this week … special teamers Adams & Francies might be pushed into starting roles on Defense – both late additions courtesy of Seahawk roster cuts
September 21st, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] 0-3 start with Baltimore, Atlanta, New Orleans, and five division games still ahe more… Off. coord. Knapp pleads for ‘patience’ – ibabuzz.com 09/20/2012 With the Raiders run game 31st after two games, offensive [...]
September 21st, 2012 at 3:31 am
I think Tyvon Branch should be in the box trying to stuff the run at all times
on passing downs, he should be rushing the QB
he is absolutely terrible in coverage. worse than Gibril Wilson
September 21st, 2012 at 3:36 am
Cam Newton sucks
September 21st, 2012 at 4:52 am
Lookie here Raider fan…Take it from a Pittsburgh Steeler season ticket holder for 42 years, i was at that playoff game in cincinnati when carson palmer got big time injured…Yo, and allow me to be perfectly clear here… i am not proud of my personal behaivor shortly after palmer got that John Deere escort off the field i deemed it necessary to inform CPD (cincinnati police department) that for the remainder of this game CPD would stand for (carson palmer doubtful) And ya know what, since that one play carson palmer has never been the same, doubtful to ever ever make it all the way back…Wanna know why…i will tell you Raider fans why…Leadership Skills…The dude got none, never did…never will…probably even spells leadership…LITERSHIP…
…Hey finally here, over the years i have seen the short term very best of cp and his committment to mediocrity since…
September 21st, 2012 at 4:58 am
Good morning everybody. It’ s a beautiful day. Time to go for a jog. So excited for the Steelers games. Good things coming!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:00 am
Hi Joee6! How is the weather in Pittsburgh this morning?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:42 am
Greg Knapp just does not inspire much confidence but he’s right about patience and he’ll have time to work things out, it’s the right thing to do as of now.
That being said, it’s also very valid to ask if this is the right guy to implement the ZBS-WCO apparently preferred by DA.
History shows he’s not had much success with it
Fact:
Greg Knapp has NEVER produced a top 10 offense in yards or points while running the ZBS.
Knapp’s most productive seasons as an OC came in SF from 2001 to 2003 and they did not run the ZBS, they ran a man-blocking scheme.
Knapp picked up the ZBS stuff once he went to Atlanta and met ZBS guru and OL Coach Alex Gibbs.
Here it is from Greg Knapp himself, these are bits taken from an interview when he was hired in Seattle back in 2009 as he explained his background:
“When I left San Francisco, where I had Jeff Garcia, Terrell Owens, JJ Stokes, Garrison Hearst, Brent Jones at the beginning of it, I had a lot of good talent outside … to a personnel group in Atlanta, where maybe we weren’t quite as pass-happy or strong in the passing game, but we were pretty strong in the run game.
So I had a whole other scheme to learn from.
Alex Gibbs was the O-line coach, that’s where we got to know each other.
That’s where the zone run game got exposed to me for the very first time.
Because I’ve had success–whether it was in San Francisco with the man blocking scheme, powers and counters and what have you, or even in the zone blocking scheme…”.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:46 am
Stealers Fan,
Your rapist QB is a great leader? Who knew rapists make good leaders.
LMAO
September 21st, 2012 at 5:47 am
Greg Knapp has NEVER produced a top 10 offense in yards or points while running the ZBS.
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Aren’t we like 14th in yards, RIGHT NOW?
It says here we will be top 10 by the end of the weekend.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:48 am
O,
Charges were never even pressed against Ben.
Calling him a rapist as he is helping an imporverished Oakland Police Department, is despicable.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:54 am
Vegas,
I’m sure that girl feels better since Big Ben does charity work.
Defending a rapist is Ignorant and disgusting.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Aloha Friday…for those of you going, see you Sunday!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:56 am
FACT:
Knapp has called plays 1 year in the past 5 seasons, that was for his friend Jim Mora in Seattle and it didn’t work out, Knapp’s last play-calling gig before Seattle was also for Mora in Atlanta, if not for Mora there’s a good chance Knapp would not have gotten a play-calling OC job since 2003 (not counting 4 games here back in 08).
Jim Mora twice put his Head Coaching career in the hands of a Grek Knapp led Offense and ended up getting fired both times, he’s now at UCLA where Knapp may soon follow him as his OC if history repeats itself.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:47 am
Greg Knapp has NEVER produced a top 10 offense in yards or points while running the ZBS.
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Aren’t we like 14th in yards, RIGHT NOW?
It says here we will be top 10 by the end of the weekend.
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15th in yards and 31st in scoring, the only stat that matters acording to you buddy, isn’t that what you have been telling us for months?.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:00 am
JFB.
You told us we would score over 30 in weeks 1 and 2 as well, right?…wink.
It’s all good bro, you keep the faith and let’s hope Knapp proves you right.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:00 am
635…… Yawnnnn…
September 21st, 2012 at 6:02 am
Btw, most of the charity work done by people like him is used to shield their high incomes from taxes.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:06 am
Mornin’ Nation
Looked at both Steelers games with the coach’s tape. Their offensive line sucks rocks. Even Maurkice Pouncey wasn’t looking that good to my eyes. It’s possible to pressure Ben and they make our line’s run blocking look competent.
If Dwyer or Redman or whoever suddenly wake up this week, that’ll be a big indictment against Tarver’s D.
Anyway, it looks like Todd Haley has devised a really really good offense to compensate for his line’s shortcomings.
They use a ton of quick hits, shallow crosses and out patterns so the ball comes out of Roethlisberger’s hands quickly which lessens his chances of getting killed. They use the sidelines extremely well. Ben is really good at hitting his receivers in stride too so they can use their legs to make plays. Antonio Brown in particular is a master of this. They like to hand the ball off to him out of the backfield too.
One play I guarantee you’ll see since they used it against both Denver and New York and it went for good yardage both times: a fake right while the fullback leaks out to the left, then a fast pass to him and he takes off down the sidelines. Watch for it, Coach Tarver, because it’s coming.
This game would be a huge challenge with a 100% healthy defense. As it is, the Raiders have minimal chances.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:08 am
Interestingly, their defense can be had. If McFadden could even get 75 yards on 20 carries, that’d be a huge boon. Ike Taylor is their only really good corner and even he can get burned too.
Manning moved the ball really well on them. The Jets didn’t largely because Mark Sanchez is friggin’ terrible.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:09 am
They’re letting Bergstrom take reps at RT rather than prepping Barksdale more?
Oh man. Joe is not long for this team.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:14 am
Score 30 points?
LOL
I blame Chico.
No way a finance major from a normal school looks at his past stats and predicts/ forecasts 30 points/ game. That’s why he is in sales.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:15 am
Another Al drafted DB steps up for a east coast team Stevie Brown picked Cam last night for a long return, you gotta give these guys time to develop, it took Nnamdi 4 years, Stevie Bown was a 7th round steal, too bad Hue made a mistake cutting the guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Brown
September 21st, 2012 at 6:19 am
O,
I believe in our legal process and Police officers.
Calling Ben a rapist is being way too lose with the facts, and that is about the worst thing you can call someone with a wife and a family. Is DHB an alcoholic?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:20 am
In all the years as a Raider Fan, I don’t remember being this upset with the team. It just seems to be a total lack of effort.
I know they’ve had a lot of issues with old bloated contracts, but it’s like they just threw a team together and then threw up their hands hands and said it is what it is and the chips will fall where they may.
Disgusting. They’ve seemed bad before, but man with an exception of a couple of Defensive guys, they are just going through the motions.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:23 am
We will score 30 this weekend!!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:24 am
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeey Sexy Lady!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:25 am
Btw, most of the charity work done by people like him is used to shield their high incomes from taxes.
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Who cares??
The OPD needs resources, Ben needs some tax credits.
Perfect marriage.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:25 am
I love it. Arguing with Chico at 6 am. I love this place.
Chico!!!!
You know I’m always joking when I talk about you and Chico.
Our legal process? Police officers?
The same legal process that releases felons to commit the same crimes again?
Officers who abuse their power?
Pass!!
Is DHB an alcoholic?
I don’t know, but he has a DUI which means he has a problem with alcohol.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:26 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:20 am
In all the years as a Raider Fan, I don’t remember being this upset with the team
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Were you in stasis during 2006?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:26 am
Stuff of sexy dreams!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen
September 21st, 2012 at 6:28 am
You know I’m always joking when I talk about you and Chico.
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I get it almost every day of my life, no worries.
Just be careful with the Ben hate, if Palmer tanks and Pryor doesn’t grab hold, Ben could be our QB in 2014.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:28 am
You know I’m always joking when I talk about you and Chico.
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I get it almost every day of my life, no worries.
Just be careful with the Ben hate, if Palmer tanks and Pryor doesn’t grab hold, Ben could be our QB in 2014.
Why you say that?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:33 am
Why you say that?
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Because if the previous stuff I mentioned happened, we most likely will have had 2 bad years, and The Reggie and staff might not be in the position to wait and groom a young QB, and will need another vet stop-gap to save their jobs.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:33 am
Raiders need to do it Gangnam Style if they want to beat Steelers! Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Sexy Lady!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:34 am
Who cares?
I do!
I’m sick of these guys and the media trying to make these people look like saints because they donate money and do charity work.
People who are interested in helping others don’t like to advertise their work.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:37 am
I am not going to question one’s motive for charity work, especially one that helps out police departments.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:40 am
Chico,
No way Reggie signs Ben. Ben is talented, but he is a headache.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:41 am
What if Oakland wins the next two games? What will all the crybabies have to whine about then? Who will they call to be fired? I think if the Raiders beat Pittsburgh, all the people who have called for Knapps firing should observe blog silence until the Raiders lose again. Pessimists.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:42 am
but he is a headache.
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So is watching a young QB learn on the job, while your own job is on the line.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:44 am
Like I said, people who are Intetested in helping others don’t advertise their work.
People who need to improve their image, advertise their charity work as much as they can.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:47 am
I’LL TAKE 53 TALENTED HEADACH’S.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:50 am
A young/ developing QB can buy his GM/ HC some time.
DA got a 4 year contract, so I’m assuming Reggie got more than 4 years. You can’t mortgage your entire career as GM on one HC.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:54 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:47 am
I’LL TAKE 53 TALENTED HEADACH’S.
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What are you going to do when half the team is suspended for drugs, DUI, Shootings, and Rape?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:58 am
PROBABLY LOSE BADLY EVERY WEEK WITH A TEAM LIKE WE HAVE NOW..
September 21st, 2012 at 6:59 am
Just Win Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:41 am
What if Oakland wins the next two games? What will all the crybabies have to whine about then? Who will they call to be fired? I think if the Raiders beat Pittsburgh, all the people who have called for Knapps firing should observe blog silence until the Raiders lose again. Pessimists.
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If we beat Pittsburgh and Denver in consec. wks…I will gladly lay off Knapp, DA and Reggie and admit I was too pessimistic.
That’s a BIG azz “IF”.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:33 am
Why you say that?
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Because if the previous stuff I mentioned happened, we most likely will have had 2 bad years, and The Reggie and staff might not be in the position to wait and groom a young QB, and will need another vet stop-gap to save their jobs.
Gotcha!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:59 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:58 am
PROBABLY LOSE BADLY EVERY WEEK WITH A TEAM LIKE WE HAVE NOW..
LOL, Good Answer!
September 21st, 2012 at 7:13 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:58 am
PROBABLY LOSE BADLY EVERY WEEK WITH A TEAM LIKE WE HAVE NOW..
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We are not losing because we lack talent. We are losing because we can’t score points, our STs unit is a mess, and a few mistakes from our rookie GM (drafting a 26 YO rookie OG who is inactive on gameday over a CB or a speedy pass rusher).
September 21st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Just when people think they’re figuring out the NFL stuff happens to change perspective, it seems everyone around the NFL from a media standpoint has decided this Raiders team is the worst in football, just based on tha,t the Raiders figure to put up a huge fight and maybe take down Pitt, then again oddmakers are putting out a -4 line on Pitt which shows you they don’t think it’s gonna be a blowout and now Schefter is picking us to win and likely placing a curse on us.
Beat Pitt, get some confidence and allow us to talk about positive stuff next week because I’m geting tired from the current debate, it’s been months talking about Knapp and the Offense.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:17 am
That stuff that went down last nite in the blog is taking it way too far.
If you don’t like a particular poster..fine. Heck even report him if you think he’s off topic too much or you think he’s out of line or too “nasty” or whatever, but hacking handles and going on a frenzy of “gay” posts…not cool at all.
If u don’t like Beeeech then scroll past him or call Becker and report him…
September 21st, 2012 at 7:18 am
#594? Whats a MR???Perv?
September 21st, 2012 at 7:21 am
RaiderDanny yo! Google it! Thats me with the top hat! From Sirius NFL radio! 1st to rep the Raiders on that New York broadcast! Im a newbee!
September 21st, 2012 at 7:23 am
I want to be positive but the safe way to go with this team is assume the worst and hope for the best.
Nothing makes me happier in my sports world than a Raider victory no matter when or how it comes.
When Grads won that game at Pitt in a shootout that year it made us like 4-9 for the yr. or something, but all the same I was doing cartwheels after the game with Raider happiness….
September 21st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Bens going to rape us
September 21st, 2012 at 7:26 am
By the way, someone mentioned Pat Lee was one of the best slot CB’s in the League yesterday, false.
Lee, fully healthy, played 21 snaps on Defense last year for GB, the worst passing Defense in League history.
From a Packers site:
“While a complete bust as a cornerback, Lee did become a valuable special teams player over the last couple of seasons, Lee’s impact on defense, however, has been nearly non-existant. He played just 21 total snaps on defense in 2011i In four NFL seasons—one of which was lost to an injury—Lee played just under 200 total defensive snaps.”
September 21st, 2012 at 7:26 am
We’ll DO IT FOR JOHNNY!! -Outsiders
September 21st, 2012 at 7:28 am
Same here DJ,
I just started this year with high “Expectations” rather than high “Hopes”….
I’ve had to transform my thinking, and start watching the games looking for bright spots; areas to build on, and take the victories where and when we get them. Can’t change what “IS”….Scheme ain’t changing, Knapp ain’t goin anywhere, Reggies running his own business……I don’t have to like it, but I’m not gonna waste any more time stewing on it either.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:28 am
Our bütthols will burn like chipotlé
September 21st, 2012 at 7:32 am
Here’s hoping Pat Lee turns his career around here, it starts next week, good luck Pat.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:32 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:26 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:20 am
In all the years as a Raider Fan, I don’t remember being this upset with the team
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Were you in stasis during 2006?
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Even then, I just threw my hands up and said oh well, we’ll get them next year.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:33 am
Umhh, actually it starts sunday…
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
Klas has been much angrier with Raiders in the past. This team is in transition. If they suck next year, then it is time to be pissed.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
I guess its expected to be a full house. But I wonder how many are actually going to show up. My thoughts is that…you can’t miss a Pitt game! But we’ll see…
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
I guess its expected to be a full house. But I wonder how many are actually going to show up. My thoughts is that…you can’t miss a Pitt game! But we’ll see…
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25% of fans will be Steeler fans.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:38 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
Klas has been much angrier with Raiders in the past. This team is in transition. If they suck next year, then it is time to be pissed.
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I’ve been thinking that for a decade. The time to be pi$$ed is NOW!
September 21st, 2012 at 7:38 am
I expect people to show up and root hard, nobody should give up just yet.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:39 am
Later.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:39 am
Alot of old timers will drive to oakland to see us play pits. Should be pretty full
September 21st, 2012 at 7:41 am
Marks hair Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:39 am
Alot of old timers will drive to oakland to see us play pits. Should be pretty full
It usually is. Last time they were in town, there were two sets of people with their Pittsburg tents flying their 5 time SB Champion flags…I know there will be a lot of terrible towels there!
September 21st, 2012 at 7:42 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:38 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
Klas has been much angrier with Raiders in the past. This team is in transition. If they suck next year, then it is time to be pissed.
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I’ve been thinking that for a decade. The time to be pi$$ed is NOW!
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This is first Raider team to be in a real transition. Al Davis was always a constant in the past.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:42 am
Look for Huff to be torched often this weekend, This guy is a major bust in any defense whether its Al’s or a “real” defense. At least after another sub par year he will finally be cut.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:44 am
Seymour Bush Says:
Darren Mcfadden 2010 5.2, 1157, 7 scores. Best season he has had as a pro. ZBS. Check mate.
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I didnt read all the comments, so I dont know if this was touched upon, but this is inaccurate.
In 2010, Tom Cable was still the head coach, but Hue was already hired as Offensive Coordinator. They spoke EXTENSIVELY in the offseason that they were overriding Cable’s ZBS and Hue had been speaking with DMC about what he is comfortable with and they installed a lot of power blocking.
Tom Cable couldnt call plays, so our team offense and DMC picked up and we finally saw some offenseive production in 2010, and 2011 when Hue was calling plays and designing the offense. All under Hue’s gap/power blocking scheme.
DMC has not succeeded in ZBS so far. Maybe a specific run play here or there has ZBS principals. But his 2010 and 2011 success can in the gap/power scheme. That has been extensively documented over the past 2+ seasons.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:45 am
I think Reggie will use this game to test Huff’s worth. If he gets toasted, he is gone.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:45 am
Huff is the loosest bütthole.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:47 am
Wonder how long it takes before Jamarcus is broke like Vince Young?
September 21st, 2012 at 7:48 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:45 am
I think Reggie will use this game to test Huff’s worth. If he gets toasted, he is gone
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Huff makes no impact at safety, now there trying him at corner, the last regime had already figured this out and had planed the transition, Huff is now on thin ice.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:48 am
Knapp is total loose bütthole
September 21st, 2012 at 7:51 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:47 am
Wonder how long it takes before Jamarcus is broke like Vince Young?
I don’t know…maybe he bought an In N Out somewhere…but, he’s not doing stupid stuff like VY!
September 21st, 2012 at 7:53 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:51 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:47 am
Wonder how long it takes before Jamarcus is broke like Vince Young?
I don’t know…maybe he bought an In N Out somewhere…but, he’s not doing stupid stuff like VY!
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He did before. Hopefully he got smart. On twitter, he said he went back to school.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:53 am
2010 we ran a hybrid ZBS style of running, hence why Hue came into 2010 talking up the switch back to power blocking and “building a bully”.
The whole “bully” talk was started, with the idea of moving away from the 2010 blocking style.
Also, didn’t Bob Wylie go on Sirius and even say we ran ZBS LAST YEAR??
September 21st, 2012 at 7:54 am
Hey Mistic! Cam looked great last night, LOL. Especially liked the Superman pose when they were down 23-0.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:55 am
It will be interesting to see what the Raiders do after week #4, the Bye week. It appears they will 0-4. Knapp wants patience? There is 16 games and patience will be thin. Where is Al Saunders, is he still with the team or just collecting a salary? Reggie McKenzie will have some tough decesions to make. The stands will soon become empty as fans will not pay to see this mess. Reggie did inherit a mess, no draft picks, strapped salary cap. But the offense was ranked #9 last year without McFadden and Campbell. The Raiders would have made the playoffs with Campbell at QB for 16 games. I don’t like to admit it, but I feel this year is going to a 4-12. I don’t think Knapp will be here long and Dennis Allen needs to step up or he will be gone too. Same old Raiders of the past ten seasons.Good Luck Reggie!
September 21st, 2012 at 8:01 am
oh so we haven’t been able to run because we had injuries on the oline, thanks for clearing that up Mr. Knapp
September 21st, 2012 at 8:02 am
Have a good morning Nation! Rebuilding after 50 years of one way means growing pains but we’re going to start clicking at some point!
Have to say, Knapp jamming square pegs is going to make the transistion much slower and all the more painful.
Have a good day Nation!~
September 21st, 2012 at 8:04 am
“With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select…..”
September 21st, 2012 at 8:06 am
LesterHayes Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:04 am
“With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select…..”
Chuck Norris!
September 21st, 2012 at 8:06 am
Waddup Nation
Rack ‘em
September 21st, 2012 at 8:08 am
Sucks, ’cause the reality of it all when changing blocking schemes yet again, we do have to be patient and and hope we can grind out some wins ’till about midway thru the year when the line should be fully in sync…..but the wack thing about it from a fan standpoint is we’ve been patient for 10 years….
September 21st, 2012 at 8:08 am
LesterHayes Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:04 am
“With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select…..”
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Won’t happen. Even if we DID get the first pick, Reggie would trade down.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:12 am
Should be interesting watching Huff play corner. The times he’s had to step up and play it, he’s primarily been in the slot. Totally different world on the outside. I actually hope he does well and he could……BUT, being I’ve been the biggest Huff hater since a year after we drafted the guy, I’d be truly surprised if he even did mediocre…hope Coye gets a shot out there; always liked his game…he’s just been an ass as a teammate…and Hanson should look loads better; can’t believe he played that badly…
September 21st, 2012 at 8:12 am
Cam plays in these rinky-dink offenses that is like Nelly Ball.
It is great when you are leading, and it always is cool to have Al Harrington play Center and bomb 3’s, but it is not conventional football, and when you play a top-flight team, they paste you.
The Panthers are stunting Cam’s growth with this crap. Once you get a lead on them, they have to try to play normal offense, and you get INT’s throw into quadruple coverage like last night.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:13 am
I see the Raider situation as one where they just tried to do WAAAAY too much, WAAAAAY too fast.
A gradual implementation of this “scheme” makes way more sense.
The willingness if necessary to “sacrifice” an entire season for the sake of a “system” is unacceptable.
You would NOT see that with many other organizations. Steelers know their fan base would not accept such a thing. They could rightly look at their team and say “Hey we’re getting old, and we need new blood to stay competitive for the future so we’re dumping some of these old guys you’ve loved so much and going younger. It’s gonna be painful and will TAKE SOME TIME before we see success, but in the end it will be worth it”. No. Instead they play it out with a team that may still have enuff in them to make a serious run; knowing that the future is promised to nobody and you try to win while u still have the chance and work on “gradually” implementing new players for the future.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:13 am
We are not getting the first pick in the draft.
LOL at people that don’t think we will win more than a game or two (or none some have said), after 2 games.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:12 am
Cam plays in these rinky-dink offenses that is like Nelly Ball.
It is great when you are leading, and it always is cool to have Al Harrington play Center and bomb 3’s, but it is not conventional football, and when you play a top-flight team, they paste you.
The Panthers are stunting Cam’s growth with this crap. Once you get a lead on them, they have to try to play normal offense, and you get INT’s throw into quadruple coverage like last night.
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Teams are figuring out the way to beat Cam Newton: contain him in the pocket and make him beat you with his arm. He may not be able to do it.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:16 am
I see the Raider situation as one where they just tried to do WAAAAY too much, WAAAAAY too fast.
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Depends on what the goal is/was.
If the goal was to try to be the Bronco’s from last year, squeek into the playoffs and soon get throttled in the second round, and then try to rebuild the cap and team somewhere AFTER that, than you are probably right.
But I don’t think that is the plan. The plan was to get the financial house in order, FIRST AND FOREMOST, and work everything else afterwards.
Whether that was the right call or not, will not be determinable after 2 years, better yet 2 games.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:29 am
Mistic:
regarding this “wave of the future” i’m of the belief that the difference between these “ultra” athletic qb’s and a traditional qb such as Andy Dalton is that they have an extra element in the ability to run, not much different Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck. As big and fast as Cam Newton is he’ll never run through NFL defenses although he will escape some pressure and get the occassional first down and even endzone with his feet. What these guys solidified and what hopefully most of us including Al Davis already new is that the black man can play qb and be as good as anyone at it but ultimately the best qbs will always have to be good pocket passers which is why i can’t see tebow being a top qb
September 21st, 2012 at 8:33 am
727,
RG3 (black, white or yellow) seems to have BOTH. He has a strong, accurate arm, escapability, can run for the first…and more. He’s dangerous.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out with him.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:33 am
If the goal was to try to be the Bronco’s from last year, squeek into the playoffs and soon get throttled in the second round, and then try to rebuild the cap and team somewhere AFTER that, than you are probably right.
But I don’t think that is the plan. The plan was to get the financial house in order, FIRST AND FOREMOST, and work everything else afterwards.
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Then*!
I noticed that you do that a lot.
Damn You Chico!!
Agreed.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:36 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:33 am
Umhh, actually it starts sunday
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Umhh; technically that is next week.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 am
RG3 (black, white or yellow) seems to have BOTH. He has a strong, accurate arm, escapability, can run for the first…and more. He’s dangerous
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i think cam russell wilson and andrew luck can be elite as well, lot of good young mobile qb’s
September 21st, 2012 at 8:40 am
Ok whos going to be there Sunday?…stop by A lot,..me and Brien will have a huge tailgate,..all our usual suspects will be there,…lots of bbq, booze, pills, pot,…beer,…skanks…classic metal and rap…hope to see the living legend, Thec…gotta be there King,…hes like the pied piper, we know when he rolls up there will be a line of skanky broads following him, so thats good, cant have enough of that…hey hope you all stop by,..no I know old man Kell wont be there, hes one of those whining old men, waaa waaa waaa,…hes the closest to the place but hes the one that doesnt have what it takes to be there, in the trenches,…but hey dude if you do want to show I have a can of pork n beans I will open up and put on the grill for you, bring your own spoon you old loser.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
“we suck”
or
“we’re STILL some the baddest muthafuc#as on the block”
Either way it’s a statement game, and it’s still Raiders versus Pittsburgh, the fans know it that’s why the tickets are hard to come by
September 21st, 2012 at 8:43 am
Teams are figuring out the way to beat Cam Newton:
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I was thinking of something last night I heard last week.
Kurt Warner was on NFLN saying the easiest season he ever had was his rookie year, when teams didn’t know his tendacies. He said he hit the end of his dropback, and his first read was open 80% of the time. As he got older in the young, it WAS NEVER OPEN.
He was saying in regards to RGIII, and I think it applies to ALMOST QB, going into a new situation.
Same with Bruce when he was here, RGIII, Cam, Luck probably, and all these other QB’s who have a really good last month of a garbage season and never amount to anything after that.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Didn’t you come on here saying you sold your tickets for $550??
September 21st, 2012 at 8:46 am
I have three sets of season ticket pairs,..I sold two pairs.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:47 am
You know Vegas, its sweet you keep track of me, my thoughts,..you never cross my mind. Sorry.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:44 am
Didn’t you come on here saying you sold your tickets for $550??
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
September 21st, 2012 at 8:50 am
Sold one pair for 550,..one pair for 350,..using other pair. Come party with us in A lot,..if you have what it takes to get off the couch.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:50 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:40 am
Ok whos going to be there Sunday?…stop by A lot,..me and Brien will have a huge tailgate,..all our usual suspects will be there,…lots of bbq, booze, pills, pot,…beer,…skanks…classic metal and rap…hope to see the living legend, Thec…gotta be there King,…hes like the pied piper, we know when he rolls up there will be a line of skanky broads following him, so thats good, cant have enough of that…hey hope you all stop by,..no I know old man Kell wont be there, hes one of those whining old men, waaa waaa waaa,…hes the closest to the place but hes the one that doesnt have what it takes to be there, in the trenches,…but hey dude if you do want to show I have a can of pork n beans I will open up and put on the grill for you, bring your own spoon you old loser.
Will be there and you know Thec, if he’s there, the ladies will follow!
September 21st, 2012 at 8:51 am
Raider O wont be there,..he likes the comfort and safety of his living room,..and besides, he likes to blog during the game,..and Tweet. LMAO
September 21st, 2012 at 8:52 am
Knapp asked for perspective and patience but the perspective is we’re sick of losing for the better part of a decade.
Wheres his persepctive?
We had patience the last time he was here for a lost season and yeah, there were circumstance aplenty to derail the raiders last time he was here but the fact Justin Fargas had 1,009 yds in Knapp’s ZBS is misleading.
In 222 carries Fargas reached the end zone 4 times.
Oakland on the ground reached the end zone only 11 times the year Fargas ran for 1,000.
The ZBS chews ups yds between the 20s and stalls out int he end zone.
Unless you’ve got big WRs who can post up in the paint and block down field or a Pro Bowl TE your Red Zone O is prone to fail.
Oakland curretly has neither the WRs nor TEs.
Knapp asks for patience but we’ve already been wating 10 years…
September 21st, 2012 at 8:53 am
Call Brien when youre there Hawaiin dude,..stop by.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:13 am
We are not getting the first pick in the draft.
LOL at people that don’t think we will win more than a game or two (or none some have said), after 2 games.
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Okay…maybe 3 wins!
Browns
Chiefs (in Oakland)
Jaguars
I wonder what overall draft pick that will get us?
2nd-3rd?
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:51 am
Raider O wont be there,..he likes the comfort and safety of his living room,..and besides, he likes to blog during the game,..and Tweet. LMAO
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I don’t tweet, and you forgot to mention expenses.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
As I told Mistic in August…Cam is not a QB….when will yall understand this?
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
The only good thing about the O i sits distracting from the Ds lack of pass rush. *–*
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 am
And the LBs! Oy vey! And the Corner sitchee aye shun…and Taiwan Jones melt down! And will it matter if Moore’s in the game or not? Hes not running the patterns he scored on last year!
Knapp + current personell = hurry up and wait till 2 seasons from now.
We KNOW the power game works here with what we’ve got. Thats what seems to frustrate some but it is what it is…or is it?
Do you have pull Raider Nation? Do you?
Be respectful and voice your opinion
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
As I told Mistic in August…Cam is not a QB….when will yall understand this?
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Go back and look. I was the one saying “Let’s see if he has a sophomore slump before declaring him the greatest thing ever.”
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 am
I couldnt care less about your money probs O you female dog.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:05 am
Going down this sunday…somehow someway we win……scheme or not players gotta man up in front of their home crowd…Miami is over…now focus on these a–hole steeler fans….Jano wins it 23-20! Go Raiders
September 21st, 2012 at 9:06 am
I thought we were going to win the west. My slogan was WWWTW (we will win the west), and now I think we are going to have a top 10 pick. I refuse to believe it will be top 5.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:06 am
Dave will be at our tailgate B,..like the old days,..should be great.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:07 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
As I told Mistic in August…Cam is not a QB….when will yall understand this?
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Go back and look. I was the one saying “Let’s see if he has a sophomore slump before declaring him the greatest thing ever.”
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Never really dug the dude…I thought Auburn got lucky to win natl title….and hate his attitude…dumb btch scores a TD down hella points and does the Superman BS
September 21st, 2012 at 9:08 am
Pill popper,
Still walking your mini poodles in short shorts?
I’m glad you are still alive and able to type.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:08 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:06 am
Dave will be at our tailgate B,..like the old days,..should be great.
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We will endure even through the worse of times….but we gonna win somehow someway….someone must fight
September 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
I really hope Knapp listens to what Carson knows about the Steelers defense….he may tell him that only zbs run plays wont work and we gotta go downhill especially with their two star players out
September 21st, 2012 at 9:16 am
And those Oakland A’s with rookie pitchers will play the yankees in the bronx this weekend…big series with texas follows from monday to thursday….coming down the home stretch…I think the young guys pull this out and wiin division but i know we will make playoffs!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:19 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:53 am
Call Brien when youre there Hawaiin dude,..stop by.
Will do!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Tough azz schedule for the A’s down the stretch.
Got to find a way to hold on.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:20 am
Wylie hit the nail on the head re: DMAC and the ZBS…I posted that this guy was a great O-line coach when he was hired…He should still be here…All Knapp does is make excuses and tell everyone how wonderful his offenses have been…Don’t see anything about taking responsibility for this mess…Tool.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:16 am
And those Oakland A’s with rookie pitchers will play the yankees in the bronx this weekend…big series with texas follows from monday to thursday….coming down the home stretch…I think the young guys pull this out and wiin division but i know we will make playoffs!
Just hoping that the Raiders catch some of that Oakland MAGIC!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:21 am
I think Cam can be a good QB, but running the read option on 3rd and 5 just further delays that, “wave of the future” and “revolutionizing the QB position” or not.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Tough azz schedule for the A’s down the stretch.
Got to find a way to hold on.
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But tough schedule down stretch is what want for my team….prepares us for October….becuz we are getting in postseason for sure…Angels are done
September 21st, 2012 at 9:24 am
Bay Bridge Series Part II
September 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
You want the first wild card though, these new rules are almost impossible for the 2nd WC team.
Play a last tough game on Wednesday (do the A’s finish at home??), have a road game on Thursday, if you win then another 2 road games to start the series (probably against) and than another trip home.
It is like 4 travel days in a week. Not happening for either of the #2 Wild Card winners.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
Hopefully without the earthquake this time.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:26 am
AL playoff teams= Oakland,Texas,NYY,Chicago,Baltimore
NL playoff teams= Washington,Cincinnati,SF,Atlanta, not sure on last spot cuz Brew Crew is rolling but I think STL holds on
September 21st, 2012 at 9:27 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:24 am
Bay Bridge Series Part II
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For what? We will just beat SF ass again….I dont wanna see that…i want the fkin Reds…I want revenge for 1990
September 21st, 2012 at 9:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
You want the first wild card though, these new rules are almost impossible for the 2nd WC team.
Play a last tough game on Wednesday (do the A’s finish at home??), have a road game on Thursday, if you win then another 2 road games to start the series (probably against) and than another trip home.
It is like 4 travel days in a week. Not happening for either of the #2 Wild Card winners.
Last 6 is at home!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:28 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:27 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:24 am
Bay Bridge Series Part II
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For what? We will just beat SF ass again….I dont wanna see that…i want the fkin Reds…I want revenge for 1990
Remember the Dodgers got revenge on us in 88!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
You want the first wild card though, these new rules are almost impossible for the 2nd WC team.
Play a last tough game on Wednesday (do the A’s finish at home??), have a road game on Thursday, if you win then another 2 road games to start the series (probably against) and than another trip home.
It is like 4 travel days in a week. Not happening for either of the #2 Wild Card winners.
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A’s going for bigger prize…we want Al West…and with 7 games vs Texas we surely are in play for it
2nd WC can damn sure win in playoffs…why not? Cuz they travel so much? Hey you gotta rise up in life….October baseball is unpredictable
September 21st, 2012 at 9:30 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:28 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:27 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:24 am
Bay Bridge Series Part II
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For what? We will just beat SF ass again….I dont wanna see that…i want the fkin Reds…I want revenge for 1990
Remember the Dodgers got revenge on us in 88!
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Reds did as well in 1990….A’s beat the big red machine with all those hall of famers in 72….now I want Rubber Match with A’s winning it all in 5…Celebration in Oakland that night like you never believe
September 21st, 2012 at 9:33 am
That would be good B!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:34 am
Vegas…more than likely the Giants will travel to Cincy…should be good series
September 21st, 2012 at 9:35 am
2nd WC can damn sure win in playoffs…why not? Cuz they travel so much? Hey you gotta rise up in life….October baseball is unpredictable
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It’s much harder than it was before is what I am saying.
That extra game throws off setting your rotation like you used to.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
Yup, can’t wait to hear from BuckeyeRaider on that one.
I feel the Reds give us the worst matchup honestly, and they should set Cueto to start in SF and let them try to bash the ball at home.
We need to set the rotation to let Timmy and maybe Zito pitch in the joint. Bumgarner gets real shaky sometimes in small road parks. He is a ATT park pitcher.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:35 am
2nd WC can damn sure win in playoffs…why not? Cuz they travel so much? Hey you gotta rise up in life….October baseball is unpredictable
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It’s much harder than it was before is what I am saying.
That extra game throws off setting your rotation like you used to.
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October baseball is hard period….its about who is hot at the right time…who has lights out pitching and stifling defense…you should know that….and thats why teams should fear the team in East Bay
September 21st, 2012 at 9:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
Yup, can’t wait to hear from BuckeyeRaider on that one.
I feel the Reds give us the worst matchup honestly, and they should set Cueto to start in SF and let them try to bash the ball at home.
We need to set the rotation to let Timmy and maybe Zito pitch in the joint. Bumgarner gets real shaky sometimes in small road parks. He is a ATT park pitcher.
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I’m of the mindset that you gotta start Cain in game 1 so you can be in position to have advantage heading to SF…Zito is gonna get blasted in game 2 anyway…that final!…Timmy needs to have his pothead ass pitching at ATT and Bumgarner should pitch game 4….think about it…would you love to have Bum pitch the clincher at home? And if you dont win game 4 you still got Cain for the series finale
September 21st, 2012 at 9:43 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
“He gave me a lot of insight that’s very helpful for my mindset going into the game to attack this defense.”
We’ll see Knapp!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What up B, Hwnrdr and the rest of da crew
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
September 21st, 2012 at 9:47 am
No matter if its the wildcard game of game 1 of ALDS…AJ Griffin has gotta start for A’s. If we take West then I trust Tommy Milone at home for game 2 since he aint great on road. Games 3 and 4 in maybe Chicago or Detroit present another challenge…Do you go with Straily and Parker or Parker then Straily? Maybe toss in vet arm in Blackley? Most likely whoever wins west will play Central winner of the number 2 wildcard which will be Bmore….still gonna be rather cold games on the road next month….
I’m gonna take Parker for game 3 and take a chance with Straily for game 4 to maybe clinch things but have him on short leash
September 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
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You found some tix?
September 21st, 2012 at 9:50 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I may have to bring inspiration for my team in the form of………..
C
L
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A
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R
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M
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I Need a win baby!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am
785.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
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You found some tix?
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My patna at work is suppose to have them 2day, but I still haven’t seen him.
I’ll know in a few hours though.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:52 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:50 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I may have to bring inspiration for my team in the form of………..
C
L
E
A
R
R
E
M
Y
I Need a win baby!
NICE!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:53 am
@hwnrdr
Where do you sit at the game? I am in section 249, to the right of the torch (looking at the field).
September 21st, 2012 at 9:55 am
And nobody wants to play the Brew Crew.
Hart, Braun and Aramis going 3-4-5. Not fun.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am
785.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
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You found some tix?
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My patna at work is suppose to have them 2day, but I still haven’t seen him.
I’ll know in a few hours though.
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Ok let me know
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
Method, does amy really sit with you at O.co and is he/she really norco? Don’t remember him/her being this contrarian.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:55 am
And nobody wants to play the Brew Crew.
Hart, Braun and Aramis going 3-4-5. Not fun.
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Yeah Brew Crew can bash but can they pitch and play enough D is my concern
September 21st, 2012 at 9:57 am
What did these Reggie, DA, and Knapp fans want the Raiders to move on to after a 8-8 season. Do they want a record less than 8-8 while supporting the new leaders? That would be Ok with them? Well, with Raider fans like that who needs enemies.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Los Mal Ojos Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
Method, does amy really sit with you at O.co and is he/she really norco? Don’t remember him/her being this contrarian.
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Miss me with the she nonsense……yes that is NorcoBob the Great….and yes we tailgate and sit by each other at games.
Bob is pissed to go through another year of this…see he goes to the games to experience the hurt first hand as I do…do you know what its like to see how miserable the ppl are after a big loss?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:01 am
791.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am
785.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
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You found some tix?
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My patna at work is suppose to have them 2day, but I still haven’t seen him.
I’ll know in a few hours though.
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Ok let me know
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Got some on line?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:04 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:27 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:24 am
Bay Bridge Series Part II
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For what? We will just beat SF ass again….I dont wanna see that…i want the fkin Reds…I want revenge for 1990
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You don’t wanna see that?
Why would anyone from the bay area not want to beat the cross bay team?
Sounds like your worse fear would be the Giants beating the A’s, and you hating the idea of dealing with that.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:04 am
Hue Jackson’s offense was much more imaginative and interesting.
Knapp has had six games with no results.
How long do we wait?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:05 am
B
I was sitting right above in the 2nd deck.
You was looking sour bruh.
I told my wifey…
“look! my patna B over there heated”
lol
September 21st, 2012 at 10:05 am
795.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Los Mal Ojos Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
Method, does amy really sit with you at O.co and is he/she really norco? Don’t remember him/her being this contrarian.
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Miss me with the she nonsense……yes that is NorcoBob the Great….and yes we tailgate and sit by each other at games.
Bob is pissed to go through another year of this…see he goes to the games to experience the hurt first hand as I do…do you know what its like to see how miserable the ppl are after a big loss?
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I drive to Richmond and take Bart. Walking back on the Ramp/bridge to Bart after a loss really sucks.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:06 am
Method To My Madness Says: do you know what its like to see how miserable the ppl are after a big loss?//////////////////In person? not so much but on occasion in the eighties, went to all the games. Jets playoff loss comes to mind. Only been to one at Oakland since moving up north. We blew out Tennessee? 2003. Up 21-zip first 5 minutes and Gannon had only touched the ball twice.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:06 am
Yeah Brew Crew can bash but can they pitch and play enough D is my concern
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Speaking of D, did you get a kick out of playing the Tigers this past week?
That HAS TO BE the worst defensive team I have seen, maybe ever.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
If I get back this year will definitely hook up at tailgate and put a face to these names.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
Bring back the Bay World Series, so THe A’s can get their smash on AGAIN!
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
49ers>Raiders
Giants>A’s
Warriors moving to SF
49ers new stadium>O.co
Giants state of the art stadium>O.co
East bay is lagging so far behind SF.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:10 am
805.RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
49ers>Raiders
Giants>A’s
Warriors moving to SF
49ers new stadium>O.co
Giants state of the art stadium>O.co
East bay is lagging so far behind SF.
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RaiderMelon = fugazzi
September 21st, 2012 at 10:12 am
“Let’s keep things in perspective for a second here,”
The new sign replacing ‘Commitment to Excellence’ at the OCO this Sunday.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:12 am
Acually the losses in the eighties might have been worse ’cause we were supposed to win every game. It’s taken 20 plus years to lose that mindset and it’s still not totally erased.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:14 am
finally watched the Miami game on the DVR. What I saw…
1) 80% of Miami’s running yards came between the tackles. The last 5 or 6 runs where they couldnt stop the Miami fullback were pathetic.
2) Palmer was pressured fast all day. Very few plays where he had time.
3) DMAC is not only averaging 2 yds a carry, he is getting 2 yards in most carries. The run game is lost.
4) Our corners cant cover a curl for their lives.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:14 am
“I still have confidence in it, and most guys still have confidence in it,” Carlisle said.
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MOST guys?
There you have it. There are some on the Raiders who aren’t buying in to the new “system”.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:15 am
I will be updating predictions (if anyone wants to do them at this point) later today. I have some issues to attend to this AM. I have noted the ones on the site here from yesterday and will add those in later on today.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
I am not sure Mr. Knapp has a good appreciation for how long Raider fans have been waiting just to get TO the playoffs.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
Was there a MUP list?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:10 am
805.RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
49ers>Raiders
Giants>A’s
Warriors moving to SF
49ers new stadium>O.co
Giants state of the art stadium>O.co
East bay is lagging so far behind SF.
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RaiderMelon = fugazzi
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Don’t be bitter.
49ers are the best team in the NFL on almost every chart. Every single one.
Raiders are either dead last or second to last on almost every chart.
Giants are leading their division by 10 games.
A’s are behind in their division 4 games.
Warriors are packing their bags.
Not all that confusing.
Well, maybe it is.
Study the above, and let us know when the light bulb goes on.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
What I think they should do…
1) cut the fat, seymore and kelly are hot garbage. get some DTs that can take on olinemen.
2) if you cant pass block the get Terrel Pryor in there.
3) the best way to get the CBs playing at a high level is by pressuring the QB, how to do that? no idea, they blitz every friggin play.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:17 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:01 am
791.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am
785.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
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You found some tix?
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My patna at work is suppose to have them 2day, but I still haven’t seen him.
I’ll know in a few hours though.
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Ok let me know
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Got some on line?
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Up in air now…but u should just come to coliseum with ya lil nino
September 21st, 2012 at 10:18 am
Actually i’m encouraged with Huff moving to corner cuz it was Hue’s idea in the first place.
Hue proved he could at least win a few ballgames.
As a fan I value that whole “winning games’ stuff as having some value.
Call me crazy.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:19 am
814.RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:10 am
805.RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
49ers>Raiders
Giants>A’s
Warriors moving to SF
49ers new stadium>O.co
Giants state of the art stadium>O.co
East bay is lagging so far behind SF.
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RaiderMelon = fugazzi
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Don’t be bitter.
49ers are the best team in the NFL on almost every chart. Every single one.
Raiders are either dead last or second to last on almost every chart.
Giants are leading their division by 10 games.
A’s are behind in their division 4 games.
Warriors are packing their bags.
Not all that confusing.
Well, maybe it is.
Study the above, and let us know when the light bulb goes on.
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Never bitter.
Its pretty simple man.
Go across the water w/ the fags and their Whiners team.
You’ll probably be a perfect match.
Raiders, Dubs, A’s for life.
NO band wagon here dog.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:20 am
812.qodrn1 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
I am not sure Mr. Knapp has a good appreciation for how long Raider fans have been waiting just to get TO the playoffs.
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He couldn’t care less.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:20 am
816.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:17 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:01 am
791.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am
785.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
781.hwnrdr Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
What’s up DMAC? Be there on Sunday?
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I suppose to be getting my tix 2day.
Taking my son for the 1st time. (B-day 3yrs old)
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You found some tix?
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My patna at work is suppose to have them 2day, but I still haven’t seen him.
I’ll know in a few hours though.
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Ok let me know
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Got some on line?
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Up in air now…but u should just come to coliseum with ya lil nino
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Fasho
and Imma have that fire 2!
Bring the Remy bruh
September 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:53 am
@hwnrdr
Where do you sit at the game? I am in section 249, to the right of the torch (looking at the field).
Hey Dutch, I sit in sec 130 in the rafters. We are to the left of the FG post in the end zone!
September 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:10 am
805.RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
49ers>Raiders
Giants>A’s
Warriors moving to SF
49ers new stadium>O.co
Giants state of the art stadium>O.co
East bay is lagging so far behind SF.
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RaiderMelon = fugazzi
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Don’t be bitter.
49ers are the best team in the NFL on almost every chart. Every single one.
Raiders are either dead last or second to last on almost every chart.
Giants are leading their division by 10 games.
A’s are behind in their division 4 games.
Warriors are packing their bags.
Not all that confusing.
Well, maybe it is.
Study the above, and let us know when the light bulb goes on.
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DMAC…Melona is a btch and i’ll slap his punk ass where he stands…Melona show up sunday so i can smack you btch
Giants not winning a WS this year…the A’s will
Niners having some success but will be giving props to the champion at end of season just like us
New 49er stadium? LOL what in Santa Clara where it becomes a 1 pct stadium? Shut up…the hardcore real Niner fans hate that place already so shut the fawk up. Raiders will get anew venue in Oakland that will schit no the 49ers lame stadium
Warriors not going to SF….are you crazy? LOL Lacob is a fool and I talked with Dave Newhouse face to face….SF will never have a basketball arena….those rich folks in SOMA not going for it…..you dont know a fkin thing you fraud…you are just a 49er/Giant fan phaggot coming on here to cause problems…you never been seen on here before and dont know schit….you SF fans stay getting beat up and punked
September 21st, 2012 at 10:22 am
There you have it. There are some on the Raiders who aren’t buying in to the new “system”.
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Get rid of them.
It’s not the arrow, it’s the Indian.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:23 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:06 am
Yeah Brew Crew can bash but can they pitch and play enough D is my concern
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Speaking of D, did you get a kick out of playing the Tigers this past week?
That HAS TO BE the worst defensive team I have seen, maybe ever.
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Detroit I hope wins AL Central so I can get a easy series win…….but ChSox will be there I believe
September 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Giants not winning a WS this year…the A’s will
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Let’s just slow down a little here.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Knapp asking for patience means he’s feeling the heat. he knows he sucks, instead of promising improvement he’s asking for time, cause he has no idea. Knapp will be out by mid season.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:25 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
As I told Mistic in August…Cam is not a QB….when will yall understand this?
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He’s not????
Let me check.
Hmmm.
Says right there on NFL. com he’s a qb.
I’m confused.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:22 am
There you have it. There are some on the Raiders who aren’t buying in to the new “system”.
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Get rid of them.
It’s not the arrow, it’s the Indian.
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No…shut that schit up man….players gonna buy into something that has proven to be BS? Come on……Knapp best years were in SF with a power run scheme…be serious
September 21st, 2012 at 10:26 am
You got dudes on the Tigers missing cutoff men, mis-playing fly balls, NEVER turning the double-play when they should.
They are just a mess. Offensively and pitching they are maybe a top 3 team, but they can’t pick it to save their lives and will probably be sitting at home when the postseason begins.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:26 am
RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:25 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
As I told Mistic in August…Cam is not a QB….when will yall understand this?
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He’s not????
Let me check.
Hmmm.
Says right there on NFL. com he’s a qb.
I’m confused.
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Go to the AIDS clinic and get a check you dumbass…..so you telling me Jamarcus Russell was a qb? Shut up….Cam is an athlete and will never be an elite QB
September 21st, 2012 at 10:28 am
DMAC Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:05 am
B
I was sitting right above in the 2nd deck.
You was looking sour bruh.
I told my wifey…
“look! my patna B over there heated”
lol
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HAHA and ESPN got it too….I was not happy bruh
September 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Giants not winning a WS this year…the A’s will
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Let’s just slow down a little here.
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I will when you h0m0 ass Giant fans stop wearing Panda hats looking like Special Ed from Crank Yankers and schit
September 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Outside of maybe a few vet players, players aren’t allowed to buck the system. Nothing positive ever comes from that.
So dudes weren’t buying into the scheme, what when the season started? Half-way through week 1? It is only week 3 for cying out loud, our O-line by the end of the year could be the strength of our team for all we know.
What if the D decided Tarver was an idiot and didn’t like his scheme?
Players play and coaches coach, and if coaches fail they get canned.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
I don’t understand the whole “patience” thing especially when it seems so much is at stake for this year.
All this discussion of a new stadium and the rumors that Mark will wanna go elsewhere if he can’t be more profitable etc.
It just seems like a real bad team to be willing to throw away a season like this and have 20k show up for the Jags game…and Cleveland most likely if the losing continues.
Raiders and Oakland are in a tenuous situation to risk losing even more money.
Losing hurts on many levels…one is financially. Losing does not help gain support in ANY community.
Sure, there will ALWAYS be a loyal Raider following, but losing….just does noone any good. Even if you have the assurance that MAYBE in 2-3yrs. if we are patient we MIGHT be competitive.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:26 am
You got dudes on the Tigers missing cutoff men, mis-playing fly balls, NEVER turning the double-play when they should.
They are just a mess. Offensively and pitching they are maybe a top 3 team, but they can’t pick it to save their lives and will probably be sitting at home when the postseason begins.
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I want them to get in….Would rather face D-town than Chitown
September 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am
832.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Giants not winning a WS this year…the A’s will
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Let’s just slow down a little here.
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I will when you h0m0 ass Giant fans stop wearing Panda hats looking like Special Ed from Crank Yankers and schit
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What about dem phaggot ass dudes dressed as milk men?
lol
2 funny
September 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am
Giants fans are a tad eccentric we will call it, but they sell out the joint every night and travel REALLY REALLY well.
I don’t root for the fans, I root for the team.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:31 am
And let’s not give a pass to the 75 year old lady with 120 pins on her hat, or those stupid horns you blow like it is the World Cup or something.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:32 am
I don’t understand the whole “patience” thing
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Yes, we have noticed.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Outside of maybe a few vet players, players aren’t allowed to buck the system. Nothing positive ever comes from that.
So dudes weren’t buying into the scheme, what when the season started? Half-way through week 1? It is only week 3 for cying out loud, our O-line by the end of the year could be the strength of our team for all we know.
What if the D decided Tarver was an idiot and didn’t like his scheme?
Players play and coaches coach, and if coaches fail they get canned.
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Tarver is in over his head….he has that joke of a dline starting…that overall shows he is a moron
Only week 3 and we are on verge of 0-3 after not being that for 6 years…come on Vegas…you cant be serious…..If allen and company dont win soon he will lose locker room officially then muthafkas gotta get canned immediately
This is a players league not the fkin coaches….you gotta be joking thinking OL will be strength in Sissy Blocking scheme
September 21st, 2012 at 10:33 am
How do i get ahold of Maria Juanita when i get up to oakland?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am
838.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:31 am
And let’s not give a pass to the 75 year old lady with 120 pins on her hat, or those stupid horns you blow like it is the World Cup or something.
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That old lady be klling em’!
September 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am
Giants fans are a tad eccentric we will call it, but they sell out the joint every night and travel REALLY REALLY well.
I don’t root for the fans, I root for the team.
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Its bandwagon schit….alot of those who live in SF or even go to games arent even from SF….please spare me…tad eccentric? G A Y
September 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am
If the new ownership group is looking to sell part of the team as a stadium package, the current and future salary-cap means a helluva lot more than how many people are in the seats.
The NFL has proven time and time again, you win, you sell out the house. And you can’t win if you are in salary-cap hell.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:35 am
841.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:33 am
How do i get ahold of Maria Juanita when i get up to oakland?
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Holla at your playa patna
September 21st, 2012 at 10:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:31 am
And let’s not give a pass to the 75 year old lady with 120 pins on her hat, or those stupid horns you blow like it is the World Cup or something.
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You mean that old lady who has seen true greatness of the bay area and watched the A’s sweep the phaggot Giants in World Series? She has right to do whatever she wants….A’s= winners of the bay area and Giants are our btch….you can say whatever you want but when the money was on the line you werent there to show up
September 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am
If the new ownership group is looking to sell part of the team as a stadium package, the current and future salary-cap means a helluva lot more than how many people are in the seats.
The NFL has proven time and time again, you win, you sell out the house. And you can’t win if you are in salary-cap hell.
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You must win….thats why we are on Knapp….dotn you get it? He brought a system that he honestly hasnt been successful in…meaning the WCO/ZBS scheme….that first year with Vick? Get outta here man…he had no QB just Vick being the best RB in a RB by committee sort of thing lol
Knapp has been successful in the WCO with power blocking….spare me this drivel
September 21st, 2012 at 10:39 am
Anyways…gotta drive out to Stockton in a minute…yall stay solid…and just win
CODE BLACK
September 21st, 2012 at 10:39 am
That old lady probably has witnessed all 4 World Championships, 6 Pennants, and 15 Playoff Appearances.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Imma holla B
September 21st, 2012 at 10:42 am
I’m hollering!
September 21st, 2012 at 10:43 am
qodrn1 Says: Was there a MUP list?///////////////No. And it wouldn’t matter ’cause anybody picked on offense would have a built in Knapp appeal which any judge would uphold.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:44 am
JFB, wasn’t it you who said that you have to give it up to that lady because she knew the farm team players, while most Giant fans can’t even tell you who their center fielder is?
How about that dummy that posted a pic and said my new fave Giant, Melky, and it was Scuatro, or what ever his name is…
September 21st, 2012 at 10:46 am
The idiotic worshipers who disparage the “whiners” across the bay. How old did you say you are?? 10, maybe 12 years old.
I can see you morons right now, 50 years later, after the freakish spawn pumps out a crew of uglies, all dedicated to losing, all you’ll have to say is:
“heh, heh, heh, all we have to do is wait a few more years……grandma….can you bring some more preparation H??”
September 21st, 2012 at 10:46 am
…..If allen and company dont win soon he will lose locker room officially
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If it is because of Bush-league stuff by the staff, than OK.
But because of scheme? That’s not their job, they won’t find a team in the league that will bend over backwards for a player scheme-wise, outside of say a Peyton Manning or something.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says: It’s not the arrow, it’s the Indian.//////////////////////????Funny anyway.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am
JFB, wasn’t it you who said that you have to give it up to that lady because she knew the farm team players, while most Giant fans can’t even tell you who their center fielder is?
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Hey, you are right in that sense, I will always say A’s fans as a whole are more knowledgable than Giants fans (especially those going to games), although I think that is not as much as it used to be.
But you make fun of the panda hats, I am making fun of the pin-hat lady, lol!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 10:51 am
Is there any doubt that eli manning is the best qb in the game today? he is unflappable , he is smart with the ball, he can dominate a game, and he is money in the clutch. My favorite thing about eli is you can never see a difference in his demeanor, doesnt matter if he has thrown a pick or a td, winning or not.
Cam newton was taken to school by a superior qb last night, and for his sake I hope he was watching the master craftsmen at the top of his game.
1. Cam must create better throwing lanes. The panther o line has been exposed by the bucs and the giants, they are soft in the middle. This brings quick pressure up the middle right into cams face. Cam must learn to avoid the middle rush with his eyes down field and create a new throwing lane. Vs the giants and bus he instead stayed in the collapsing pocket but couldnt step into his throws causing his mechanics to go out of the window, leading to interceptions in both games.
2. Cam must dial it down and mature as a game manager. Cam is a bit like farve, he thinks his arm can beat any coverage and hit any window no matter how far away or small. He also gets impatient when the offense sputters and tries to do too much. He must learn patience as forcing the ball has also resulted in picks in 2 games.
3. Cam must mature as a leader. He desperately needs to lose the little wayne act, and put down his press clippings. When you are behind 20-0 in the second half after throwing a pick, then you dont celebrate a touch down by doing a super man gesture. He needs to learn that it isnt the endzone dance that matters or excites the team or inspires them to follow, it is the production during actual play that counts.
Cam must take these next steps if he wants reach the lofty bar set by eli. as for now he is still a young guy on a flawed team in the trenches, and nothing more than a squirrel in eli’s world trying to find a nut.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:51 am
Keepin’ the West Coast rep in check
September 21st, 2012 at 10:54 am
Ima holla too B@uce. You only right half the the time but you do believe.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:55 am
Some of you actually watch base-a-ball?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:55 am
Fair enough, JFB! What game you coming too? Denver, right?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:59 am
Denver I will be there, hopefully not watching a 4-9 team!!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
@Mistic1
Did you see Eli chew out M. Bennet for running the wrong route?
September 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
Wow, Mistic. You’ve been accused of QB racial profiling and I admit to thinking somewhat the same. But that last post shows that you are looking at and thinking about things reasonably objectively, and should be archived as a rejoinder to any who further doubt you. Looking at you Dr._Rob.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
I hear ya…when it gets close, I’ll shoot you my email. you have to come to the tailgate! I believe gates open at noon. My friends from Hawaii will be there as well!
September 21st, 2012 at 11:02 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
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DMAC…Melona is a btch and i’ll slap his punk ass where he stands…Melona show up sunday so i can smack you btch
Giants not winning a WS this year…the A’s will
Niners having some success but will be giving props to the champion at end of season just like us
New 49er stadium? LOL what in Santa Clara where it becomes a 1 pct stadium? Shut up…the hardcore real Niner fans hate that place already so shut the fawk up. Raiders will get anew venue in Oakland that will schit no the 49ers lame stadium
Warriors not going to SF….are you crazy? LOL Lacob is a fool and I talked with Dave Newhouse face to face….SF will never have a basketball arena….those rich folks in SOMA not going for it…..you dont know a fkin thing you fraud…you are just a 49er/Giant fan phaggot coming on here to cause problems…you never been seen on here before and dont know schit….you SF fans stay getting beat up and punked
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LMAO at you blowing a head gasket.
First off, no, I don’t think you would don anything except buy me a beer, and admit you are my bich.
Your skinny little punkazz wouldn’t last 20 secs.
Pretty ignorant of you to state hardcore 49er fans already hate the place? You moron. Place isn’t built yet. How can you hate something that’s not built? lol.
It’s already slated as being one of the best if not the best stadium in the league.
Fans already have purchased over 700 MILLION in tickets, moron.
Majority of niner fans live down the peninsula, moron, so it’s closer. Better access. Great parking. Great weather.
Did you really say the Raiders will get a new stadium?
Are you slow in some way we should know about?
Only stadium the Raiders will end up in, that’s new, is begging the 49ers to let them in. That’s it. You know, and everyone knows the Raiders have been spinning wheels for years and have gotten zero progress.
the 49ers punked the Raiders as far as getting the job done.
Understand that?
One team got the job done. One owner did what the other other failed miserably at.
Something you’ll just have to live with.
and the funniest part was you saying the Warriors aren’t doing what they told everyone there were doing, because you talked to Newhouse? A beat reporter?
You are kind of clueless, aren’t you?
September 21st, 2012 at 11:02 am
844.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am
If the new ownership group is looking to sell part of the team as a stadium package, the current and future salary-cap means a helluva lot more than how many people are in the seats.
The NFL has proven time and time again, you win, you sell out the house. And you can’t win if you are in salary-cap hell.
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Good points, but what I meant was if the goal was to stay in Oakland and be a profitable franchise it doesn’t help to have a half filled stadium and waning interest from the fanbase and businesses.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:04 am
People in here just last year, were trying to sell everybody that Jason Campbell is just as good as Eli Manning.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:05 am
Palmer needs to find Moore early. He was effective when on field against MIA and Palmer missed him twice. He could have easily had 100+ yards if couple throws were better. I see that happening Sunday.
Moore is going to destory that secondary.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:06 am
I’m on out Hwnrdr!!!
Got the plan to go meet up with some of the family, than meet the Semi’s.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:51 am
Cam must take these next steps if he wants reach the lofty bar set by eli. as for now he is still a young guy on a flawed team in the trenches, and nothing more than a squirrel in eli’s world trying to find a nut.
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How odd.
Just the other day you were saying how Cam was one of a select group of black “qb’s of the future”.
Now he’s but a squirrel in eli’s world?
Wonderful backtracking, trying to avoid being called out.
Oh wait. I just called you out, didn’t I?
Guess it didn’t work.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:12 am
i hope cam is listening and thank god for teammates like smith.
Cam can be one of the greatest ever, but if he doesnt adjust jis attitude, he could also be the next vy, or akili smith
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1342881-cam-newtons-leadership-skills-questioned-by-steve-smith-after-loss-to-giants
September 21st, 2012 at 11:13 am
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:42 am
I’m hollering!
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Let me know what game you’ll be attending.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:14 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
@Mistic1
Did you see Eli chew out M. Bennet for running the wrong route?
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when you win the super bowl twice & both times you were not expected to do it, you can do that.
Carson isnt in that class if that is what you are getting at
September 21st, 2012 at 11:15 am
Man…just got back from LumberJacks. Had me a LumberJack Omelette, that ish was huge (bomb-diggity)!!!
Glad they found their way out here (Vegas)…I know they got one out there in Tracy, I think.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaiderRob Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:51 am
Cam must take these next steps if he wants reach the lofty bar set by eli. as for now he is still a young guy on a flawed team in the trenches, and nothing more than a squirrel in eli’s world trying to find a nut.
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How odd.
Just the other day you were saying how Cam was one of a select group of black “qb’s of the future”.
Now he’s but a squirrel in eli’s world?
Wonderful backtracking, trying to avoid being called out.
Oh wait. I just called you out, didn’t I?
Guess it didn’t work.
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I have never said “am was one of a select group of black qb’s of the future”.
I did say cam is the wave of the future and he is. This was the worst game of his pro career, never having thrown 3 picks in a game. he will be fine but he has a few steps to make to get to Eli’s level.
I have not back tracked, but it was fun watching the young up and comer get taught a lesson by the teacher. This will be a match up to watch in years to come, and newton must catch up to eli.
That is simple truth
September 21st, 2012 at 11:23 am
OK, Greg. Let’s put things in perspective.
The Raiders ALREADY HAD a flourishing running game BEFORE you were hired, Greg.
You completely dismantle the 9th ranked offensive in the league and now you have the nerve to ask for patience?
September 21st, 2012 at 11:26 am
605RAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:23 am
OK, Greg. Let’s put things in perspective.
The Raiders ALREADY HAD a flourishing running game BEFORE you were hired, Greg.
You completely dismantle the 9th ranked offensive in the league and now you have the nerve to ask for patience?
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Our offense (for yards gained) has fallen six spots, from 9th to 15th. Not good, but no reason for everyone’s panic.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:27 am
The only thing that matters to me are points on the board.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:29 am
R8, PM Party Patrol in the Hizzy
Brah I’m heading to Vegas next month with Rasta Ganja to play some VIP shows at Mandalay Bay and Encore
What strip clubs are poppin’ these days?
You know the Beeeech Diggity’s gotta get some free undercover hand jiggidies while on the road
September 21st, 2012 at 11:31 am
What was Kim Newt thinking when he did his SuperKam pose last night ?
You want to be a team leader ? Act like one.
Juvenile displays of self aggrandizement when your team is getting spanked isn’t the way to show leadership.
Just makes you look like a ‘me first’ clown.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:35 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:31 am
What was Kim Newt thinking when he did his SuperKam pose last night ?
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I can tell you what I was thinking: “You’re down by two touchdowns. SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!”
September 21st, 2012 at 11:45 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:31 am
What was Kim Newt thinking when he did his SuperKam pose last night ?
You want to be a team leader ? Act like one.
Juvenile displays of self aggrandizement when your team is getting spanked isn’t the way to show leadership.
Just makes you look like a ‘me first’ clown.
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clearly the worst game of his career or at least that i have seen, and I watched every pro and pre season snap, and many games at auburn.
Im afraid he is getting a little cuaght up in being the star. he needs to humble himself and maybe seek out moon again to take him back to basics with mechanics, and manhood
September 21st, 2012 at 11:53 am
I’ve heard some laughable reasons NOT to fire Knapp around here recently.
The most ridiculous one is that firing Krappy would dissuade potential replacements from taking the job, due to concerns about job security as a result of seeing Knappy get a swift kick in the can.
I guarantee you there are candidates to replace Knapp that would relish the opportunity to be OC of the Raids.
There will be no shortage of qualified people eagerly applying for the job, regardless of whether Knapp is fired on Monday, after week 8, or after the season.
Another claim is that scrapping Krapp’s system and implementing a new one will be a lengthy process.
Wrong.
Raids could switch back to a primarily power blocking scheme and have Saunders calling the plays, and barely miss a heartbeat.
The worst mistake the Raids could make would be to continue to cling to a system that isn’t working for them and an OC that’s a lousy play caller and point producer.
There comes a point where you’ve got to cut your losses (literally and figuratively) and the Raids are fast approaching that point with Krapp.
Immediate results are what’s necessary for Krapp to retain his job, not pleas for patience.
TD’s or Ta-Ta, Krappy.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:55 am
Well said Raiderman!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaiderRob Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:51 am
Cam must take these next steps if he wants reach the lofty bar set by eli. as for now he is still a young guy on a flawed team in the trenches, and nothing more than a squirrel in eli’s world trying to find a nut.
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How odd.
Just the other day you were saying how Cam was one of a select group of black “qb’s of the future”.
Now he’s but a squirrel in eli’s world?
Wonderful backtracking, trying to avoid being called out.
Oh wait. I just called you out, didn’t I?
Guess it didn’t work.
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I have never said “am was one of a select group of black qb’s of the future”.
I did say cam is the wave of the future and he is. This was the worst game of his pro career, never having thrown 3 picks in a game. he will be fine but he has a few steps to make to get to Eli’s level.
I have not back tracked, but it was fun watching the young up and comer get taught a lesson by the teacher. This will be a match up to watch in years to come, and newton must catch up to eli.
That is simple truth
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Damn Mistic, these clowns can’t wait to take shots at you for your informative takes because of a bad game by a second-year player? You are obviously doing something right. I’m actually embarrassed for the dorks who are trying to write Cam off because of last night’s stinker. Wishful thinking I guess.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:26 am
605RAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:23 am
OK, Greg. Let’s put things in perspective.
The Raiders ALREADY HAD a flourishing running game BEFORE you were hired, Greg.
You completely dismantle the 9th ranked offensive in the league and now you have the nerve to ask for patience?
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Our offense (for yards gained) has fallen six spots, from 9th to 15th. Not good, but no reason for everyone’s panic.
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Not sure where you get “panic” from my post, RD. As has already been pointed out:
ArmChair GM Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
2011 Offensive Line rankings:
Oakland #5
Houston #13.
And we switched to try and emulate Houston’s scheme because of what again?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
My question to Greg is: You change that why?
September 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I’d take Cam as our QB right now! I’m not one for celebrating when youre getting your arse kicked but I think when he ran that td in and did his superman antics he was trying to not only fire his team mates up but also get the home crowd back into it as well.
If Knapp doesn’t get his poop in a group soon, they’re going to have trouble filling the seats. Knapp needs to be let go and Saunders needs to assume his duties, this zbs is b.s. the power blocking scheme is more up to date and it works so much better… especially for DMAC.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Cam had a bad game last night, but he’s definitely not alone. Seasoned players like Cutler, Brees, Peyton Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Stafford have turned in stinkers this year too. Must be something going around.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
885,
Raiderman, Makes sense to everyone BUT those who are ok with waiting unneccessarily for a time when MAYBE ina few yr.s we’ll get to the point we were at the end of last season.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
enjoy your weekend nation.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
605RAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Not sure where you get “panic” from my post, RD.
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Maybe not from your post, but there have been thousands (literally) of “The Sky is Falling” posts on this board in the last week.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Im afraid he is getting a little cuaght up in being the star.
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And I’m afraid that’s what some people were getting at about the reports of him leaving college(s), before we were labeled a bunch of racist hillbillies.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I don’t like the stigma that goes along with firing your OC after 3 games…Yeah it looks bad and not the way you wanna start out the “new era” and all but….I like winning more.
Whatever it takes to get that done has my full support..stigma be damned.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Dmac….I’ll be at the game this weekend. I’ll be tailgating so I’ll be around early. Let me know how to get in touch with you.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
What kind of blocking scheme does a “patient offense” run? I need to find out the ppg a patient oriented offense puts up or wins it produces.
lol
When we initially hired him I told myself the same about Knapp…patience. 2 weeks into the season and he’s now pleading for it from Raider fans, who’ve been praticing it with the past 10 years.
Enough is enough. Make right what doesn’t work get Oakland some wins!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I guarantee you there are candidates to replace Knapp that would relish the opportunity to be OC of the Raids.
There will be no shortage of qualified people eagerly applying for the job, regardless of whether Knapp is fired on Monday, after week 8, or after the season.
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Candidates mid-season, OK I guess. Who? Randy Hanson
You have to wait until the offseason to assemble a staff, this isn’t Reno’s 24/7 pick-and-pull a staff.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Im afraid he is getting a little cuaght up in being the star.
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And I’m afraid that’s what some people were getting at about the reports of him leaving college(s), before we were labeled a bunch of racist hillbillies.
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If the label fits, wear it.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Been an active reader for many years and finally decided to join in. Season ticket holder in Orange County and here is my sign for Sunday.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2d700b3127ccef17e3d9d357000000030O00CcuGrFw0ctQe3nwQ/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
September 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
SAUNDER SAUNDER SAUNDER!
RAIDER BLOGS OUT THERE. BLOG HANDS UP GUYS.
The Great Omoran
September 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I’d take Cam as our QB right now! I’m not one for celebrating when youre getting your arse kicked but I think when he ran that td in and did his superman antics he was trying to not only fire his team mates up but also get the home crowd back into it as well.
If Knapp doesn’t get his poop in a group soon, they’re going to have trouble filling the seats. Knapp needs to be let go and Saunders needs to assume his duties, this zbs is b.s. the power blocking scheme is more up to date and it works so much better… especially for DMAC.
RaiderDebo Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Cam had a bad game last night, but he’s definitely not alone. Seasoned players like Cutler, Brees, Peyton Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Stafford have turned in stinkers this year too. Must be something going around.
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I agree and think that people are holding cam to an impossible standard, but it has been this way ever since the pay for play scandal at auburn with his pop.
Cam is smart enough to know that people are just itching to throw dirt on him, so he must mature and embrace the challenge. Im sure he will because at his core he is an extreme competitor, and mentally tough.
Ok now im out
Peace nation
September 21st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I guess wanting to be a Global Icon wasn’t enough of a tip to Mistic about one’s desire to be a star.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
899.RaiderDebo Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Im afraid he is getting a little cuaght up in being the star.
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And I’m afraid that’s what some people were getting at about the reports of him leaving college(s), before we were labeled a bunch of racist hillbillies.
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If the label fits, wear it.
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So you are changing your handle?
Will it be Raider_bigot? I_HATE_WHITE_PEOPLE? DIE_CRACKER_DIE? JAMARCUS_IN_MY_MOUTH?
September 21st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Brahs, got 12 huge cucumbers chillin’ in the freezer, in a few hours I can stuff one in my Speedo
Heading out to the Ritz pool, them ladies will be like “Dang Beeeech Diggity, you grew 5+ inches overnight?” and I’ll be like “Hell Yeah, Ladies”
And of course I’ll have a sweet new rudder for pool laps
Nothing like making sure you’re going in a straight line, holla
September 21st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I guess wanting to be a Global Icon wasn’t enough of a tip to Mistic about one’s desire to be a star.
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Laughable
all mega star athletes are global icons, so i dont have aproblem with that.
I have never seen him behave like he did last night or play as poorly. He hopefully will take it as one to grow on and get back to trying to improve.
lets not fool ourselves though the kid turned in the single greatest rookie qb season in history, so 2 shaky games in his second year isnt nearly enough evidence to write him off as a bad guy or player.
besides CAM STILL OWNS YOU!!!!! You said he would flop but instead he became one of the greatest stories in football last year.
By the way do you care to take back your prediction of “russel wilson holding a clip board for matt flynn by mid season?
lol
ok really im out
September 21st, 2012 at 12:26 pm
-And of course I’ll have a sweet new rudder for pool laps
Beech, can’t randomly put a comment up like that while I’m under the cali green effects.
lmao
September 21st, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I’d take Cam as our QB right now!
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So would I.
But he’s still got some growing up to do and needs an attitude check.
I think he’s a team player and a winner, that’s why the SuperKam posing while getting spanked is disappointing.
I’ll tell you another thing…
If Kam was my QB, I’d emphasize the importance of him refining his game as far as being a ‘pocket’ QB, reading defenses, etc…
But on a night when you’re facing a fierce pass rush, the passing game is languishing and the run game is struggling…
I’m telling Kam – you’ve got a green light to run whenever you want to, and would let him take the team on his shoulders and carry it.
I’d utilize every facet of his ability and wouldn’t worry about pre-conceived notions that there’s an urgency to mold him into the protypical pocket passer.
September 21st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
It’s entirely possible that the Raiders will be 0-5 before they play at home again, and entirely possible that the Jaguars will be 0-5 heading into that game, too. That’s not a recipe for sellout. Or a game the fans would even want to watch on TV.
- Michael David Smith PFT
SMH…if we’re 0-5 heading into that game I refuse to attend a game this year!
Sorry to say it but if we are 0-5 our season is over and we need to start counting our eggs (draft picks) for Aprils Draft!
BTW…blow it up and start over, trade DMC and all!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
When is the trade deadline?
September 21st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
605RAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Not sure where you get “panic” from my post, RD.
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Maybe not from your post, but there have been thousands (literally) of “The Sky is Falling” posts on this board in the last week.
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Well, true that. I’m a long time reader, seen those myself. Been a member of Raidernation my entire life and I’m not about to jump ship now. Nevertheless, I do believe some of those singing “The Sky is Falling” tune do have a point. There was already a functional hybrid zbs/power running OL scheme in place when Greg got here. Why mess with that when you’ve become the OC of a team well known for their lack of continuity? Isn’t Greg doing the very thing we all complained about when AD (RIP AL) was still with us ?
September 21st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
aig-raiders Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Man you Hue lovers kill me.
Hue’s offense in the final 5 games down the stretch.
14, 16, 27, 16 (OT) and 26. We went 1-4 in all those games. Can we please stop with this revisionist crap? Under Hue, we scored zero points, 9 points, 3 points, and another 13 points during his tenure here for 32 games. Some offensive genius that dude was. (rolling my eyes)
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Without DMC, without Ford, without T Jones, and with a QB in Palmer who barely knew half the playbook and with a crappy defense was still one game away from playoffs. DA and Knapp could only dream of coming that close.
Use some more in depth thinking buddy.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Patience? That is another name for ‘Pre-season’…
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Beechams Gay Lover Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
come home to daddy beeech dawg
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FLMGDAO!
(yeah, I haven’t posted much over the last 7 years or so, but I sure as hell know who that putz Masterbater Beechum is)