Huff says he’s ready for anything
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, September 21st, 2012 at 3:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Michael Huff emerged from seclusion long enough Friday to confirm what everyone already knew _ the veteran safety may be playing a lot of cornerback against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
“If I’m out there at corner I’ll be ready and if I’m out there at safety I’ll be ready,’’ Huff said.
The Raiders officially ruled Shawntae Spencer out of Sunday’s game at O.co Coliseum, meaning they’ve lost both of their starting cornerbacks in two weeks. Ron Bartell broke his shoulder blade in the opener.
One of the challenges this week for the defensive staff has been putting the secondary together like a jigsaw puzzle and hoping the pieces fit. Huff, who made himself scarce during open locker room sessions until Friday, claimed he didn’t know the game plan.
Coach Dennis Allen knows it, but wasn’t getting into specifics.
“I think we have a pretty good plan for what we’re going to do and how we’re going to attack that position so we’ll be ready on Sunday come anything that comes our way,’’ Allen said.
Logic and depth suggest Huff will be matched up with wide receivers a good amount of time, given that Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson are the only other options at the position _ and each struggled in a 35-13 loss to Miami.
The other cornerbacks on the roster, Coye Francies and Phillip Adams, played only on special teams even after Spencer left the game.
Matt Giordano, an extra defensive back in some packages, has had success playing free safety in Huff’s absence before.
The question is whether Huff will play outside as a true corner or in the slot, a position he’s more familiar with as a nickel back. In seven years with the Philadelphia Eagles, Hanson’s best work has also come as a slot defender, rather than on the outside.
Huff said he has no problem playing on the island.
“For me, outside is easier than inside, because inside, you’re working on slot, quick receivers,’’ Huff said. “Outside is pretty much just press and run, more deep routes.’’
Huff was told by the previous regime he might be moving to cornerback this season. Allen said there was no thought given to that by his staff, but when asked why Huff could play corner, said, “speed and athleticism. That’s the biggest thing. You’ve got to be able to run and play out there on the edge and he can certainly do that.’’
Pittsburgh has two swift receivers in Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace, and a quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger whose strength is breaking out of the pocket and delivering passes off of broken plays.
Of Wallace, Huff said, “Fastest kid in the world. You see him on film and you see corners playing off . . . he is probably track Olympic fast, to be honest.’’
– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain was listed as questionable and will continue to work through the NFL concussion protocol.
Allen likened his situation to that of Jon Condo a week ago. Condo ended up playing against Miami. Francies, like McClain was limited at practice and listed as questionable with a concussion.
Right tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) was listed as out along with Spencer. Willie Smith is the likely starter, Allen said, although rookie Tony Bergstrom has taken reps at that position of late and Joe Barksdale is also available.
Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski (groin) is listed as questionable but Allen expects him to play.
Running back Mike Goodson tweaked a hamstring during Thursday’s practice and is listed as questionable. It’s not believed serious, but it will be a game-time decision.
– Two big names on defense were listed as out for the Steelers _ linebacker James Harrison (knee) and safety Troy Polamalu (calf). Also out is running back Rashard Mendenhall (knee).
– Fans entering the stadium an hour before kickoff Sunday will be eligible to win prizes such as field passes, locker room tours, autographed memorabilia and Raider merchandise. Check Raiders.com for more details.
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September 21st, 2012 at 3:28 pm
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September 21st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Haha
September 21st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
fiddle sticks!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Anyone think we have a real chance this week?
I do.
I think Tarver is gonna blitz the hell outta Ben.
McFadden will get loose as well.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Well Quite frankly, this Pittsburgh game is the kind of game the Raiders could win in the past, after losing games they were supposed to win……….
September 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Len Brah, way to calm down the Old Troll
Otherwise he’d be way too rattled to chauffeur KrappyWife and Her Bowl Cut home from work
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
September 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Thats true Kell, I remember the game in ‘06. We were horrible that year!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Max pressure to force quick throws, Db’s need to be up to it.
Better to attack than sit back and get picked apart.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Marcus Allen will light the Al Davis flame on Sunday
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/21/marcus-allen-will-light-the-al-davis-flame-on-sunday/
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Fking WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gviucicFMI&feature=related
September 21st, 2012 at 3:34 pm
You said that already you senile old loser.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Too bad you wont see him light it from your couch old man.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
More than 20 years after Raiders owner Al Davis decided to park running back Marcus Allen on the bench until his contract expired, Allen will attend a Raiders game.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Come to the game and our tailgate Old Kell,..I will gril lyou a can of pork n beans. Also I will find a bottle of ripple for you.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Dan78 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Hey Kell go sell some more swamp land
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I know funny and that’s funny
September 21st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Hey old Kell, did you cut n paste that from that website all by yourself?…no wonder why those old timers at the barber shop think youre awesome.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Marcus Allen will light the Al Davis flame on Sunday
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/21/marcus-allen-will-light-the-al-davis-flame-on-sunday/
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Fking WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Meet the New Boss…Different than the Old Boss.
Surprised me as well.
Mark must not have read the LIST.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
The real sales people at that real estate office refer to Kell as “Fetch”,…has to do with mail, lunch, coffee….lol.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Len
blitz often and put (insert cornerback name here) 1 on 1 vs Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace? Yikes.
Steelers 30 Raiders 13
ST/D touchdown likely by the bad guys.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Mark and Marcus have been boys for about 30 years,…but Kell couldnt find an article to cut n paste or he would have done it by now…poor old female dog.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Come to the game and our tailgate Old Kell,
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I have certain standards Norco Boob. No thanks.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I thought it was Kow Kell
September 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Marcus Allen lighting the flame?
Maybe the raiders will let John elway come in and take some furniture out of Al’s office too?
I am not a fan of al, but that is a slap in the face.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Len
blitz often and put (insert cornerback name here) 1 on 1 vs Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace? Yikes.
Steelers 30 Raiders 13
ST/D touchdown likely by the bad guys.
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I do hear what you’re saying.
I’d rather go down swinging, than sitting back and taking a beating.
Two different way’s of looking at it.
I’d say with our DB situation, it’s best those guys are not forced to run too long and hopefully force ben to make an ill advised throw.
Tall order for sure.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Marcus Allen lighting the flame?
Maybe the raiders will let John elway come in and take some furniture out of Al’s office too?
I am not a fan of al, but that is a slap in the face.
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Thats like $hitting in his grave
September 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
JB Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
NFL Football
Vittorio Tafur
Day after Raiders OC Greg Knapp preached patience with running game, Allen was asked how much patience he can have.
“The big difference is, is I believe in the (zone blocking) system. I believe in what we’re doing. And when you believe in something, you stick to it and you have your patience with it. But it’s all about a belief. Most of the time, people, when they don’t believe in something, that’s when they want to make a lot of changes. I’ve got belief in it and it’s going to work.”
^^^^^^^^^
Allen’s stubborness and stupidity will lead to his undoing.
Sad. What a waste of a year!
We have a coach who is too stubborn to make the necessary adjustments on offense to give his team a chance to win football games.
Lame!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dan78 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I thought it was Kow Kell
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now that’s even funnier!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
I wonder if we’re even GOOD at blitzing.
I think we all take it for granted and just assume blitzing is blitzing. But after watching so many of our safeties “blitz” by just running (late) up the field wide from the QB, I dunno…
September 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Is old man Al rolling in his grave….AGAIN…with Allen lighting the flame??
LOL
September 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Marcus is one of my All-Time favorite Raider players. He CARRIED his teams.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
KrappyRat the Troll King has standards
One look at KrappyWife’s Bowl Cut and you know that’s a lie. Just keepin’ it real.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Gosh Kell,..how can you say no?…pork n beans,..ripple…and I will bring a gross old homeless dude, just in case you miss your wife.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
DKnight
Allen’s hands are tied with Knapp just like Hue’s were with Chuck B.
You can’t make changes once the season has started. Would take WEEKS to learn anything meaningfully new. And those weeks would be all muddled and filled with even worse losses than right now.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Sweet – 12 year old Corey Feldman is in Friday the 13th Part V!
That just makes this dope viewing jam even sweeter
Now if only I can get a wasted stripper over here to gargle my nads …
September 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Dan78–always a loyal Beeech Boy! The Beeech Dawg can always count on you having my backside. And I have yours too. True party boys stick together. The full PMPP is having a cucumber party at 4:20. We’ll dance to some Mariah with cucumbers in our speedos, front and back, and think off all the ho strippers we’re gonna bang. I will totally be thinking of you Dan-O and I know you’ll be thinking of the Beeech Dawg. My Lawg will be chopping that cucumber in half just for you!
HOLLA! IT’S A BEEECH PARTY NIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I think Marcus Allen lighting the flame is a beautiful thing. I bet Al would too.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
DKnight
Allen’s hands are tied with Knapp just like Hue’s were with Chuck B.
You can’t make changes once the season has started. Would take WEEKS to learn anything meaningfully new. And those weeks would be all muddled and filled with even worse losses than right now.
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Hue had no choice
DA picked Knapp
September 21st, 2012 at 3:56 pm
I think you should light one this year old Kell,…but only if you use your Zippo with the Playboy bunny logo on it.
September 21st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Dan78
Hey Kell go sell some more swamp land
I thought it was Kow Kell
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Two of the most hilarious postings this blog has ever seen. You know I love classics that have been well worn. Speaking of well worn, what are you wearing? I’m sure it’s totally hot for the strippers we like. I’m wearing my patented jock strap with the middle cut out. I get more support from you on this blog than the jock strap, but you know how we do.
HOLLA!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Gosh Kell,..how can you say no?…pork n beans,..ripple…and I will bring a gross old homeless dude, just in case you miss your wife.
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yes! Another awesome joke from a potential NEW BEEECH BOY!
WRECKS!
September 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:56 pm
I think you should light one this year old Kell,…but only if you use your Zippo with the Playboy bunny logo on it.
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You need to get a life outside of stalking KoolKell.
Switch/off.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Sweet – 12 year old Corey Feldman is in Friday the 13th Part V!
That just makes this dope viewing jam even sweeter
Now if only I can get a wasted stripper over here to gargle my nads …
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Having a stripper lick the Lawg while I’m watching 12 year old Cory is totally awesome and not gay at all. Just quality cinema. I jerk it to the Lost Boys every Thursday. The Coreys are amazing before they got too old.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
KrappyRat fantasizing about Marcus lighting the flame
Old Troll, to celebrate the blessed event you should drive that shiny red corvette up to Angel’s Camp and take a nice huge dump in the woods
Gots to keep it real
September 21st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Beeech knowledge coming your way! If you’re gonna have a totally female stripper gargle your nads while watching boy actors, they should be totally smooth and hairless, because if they had hair, it would be gay, not partying.
TWIZZLE MY NIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Raiders are gonna get annihilated this weekend. Pittsburgh WRs are gonna abuse our DBs all day long, so unless we score 30+, there is no way we can win. And with our O-line right now, Palmer is in trouble.
Put it this way, I feel really good about having Pittsburgh D in my fantasy league.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
DKnight
Allen’s hands are tied with Knapp just like Hue’s were with Chuck B.
You can’t make changes once the season has started. Would take WEEKS to learn anything meaningfully new. And those weeks would be all muddled and filled with even worse losses than right now.
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Hue had no choice
DA picked Knapp
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DA can also demote or fire Knapp. Hue could not do that with Chuck B.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Beeech knowledge coming your way! If you’re gonna have a totally female stripper gargle your nads while watching boy actors, they should be totally smooth and hairless, because if they had hair, it would be gay, not partying.
TWIZZLE MY NIZZLE!
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Peemore Nob Bust, it’s so awesome that this counts as only your 2nd biggest meltdown of September
HOLLA BACK YOUNG MC
September 21st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
I’m gonna deuce a footlong. Should I do it on “Alex” the stripper? She’s this totally hot nubian Amazon. 6′2″ and shaved all over, if you know what I mean. Her big hands are gripping my Lawg and it’s such a party! Her deep voice is a nice contrast to Corey’s. BEEECH PARTY!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Marcus is one of my All-Time favorite Raider players. He CARRIED his teams.
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I feel the same….perhaps you and I have more in common than it appears….
September 21st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Bergstrom getting practice at RT = barksdale’s future as a Raider will be short, very short.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
JB Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
NFL Football
Vittorio Tafur
Day after Raiders OC Greg Knapp preached patience with running game, Allen was asked how much patience he can have.
“The big difference is, is I believe in the (zone blocking) system. I believe in what we’re doing. And when you believe in something, you stick to it and you have your patience with it. But it’s all about a belief. Most of the time, people, when they don’t believe in something, that’s when they want to make a lot of changes. I’ve got belief in it and it’s going to work.”
^^^^^^^^^
Allen’s stubborness and stupidity will lead to his undoing.
Sad. What a waste of a year!
We have a coach who is too stubborn to make the necessary adjustments on offense to give his team a chance to win football games.
Lame!
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Based on DA’s comments it looks like the season is actually really over. They plan to stay the course. Sounds like DA “believes” in the Raiders sucking.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Huff said he has no problem playing on the island.
“For me, outside is easier than inside, because inside, you’re working on slot, quick receivers,’’ Huff said. “Outside is pretty much just press and run, more deep routes.’’
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Be careful what you ask for Huffy. Sure would hate to see you walking off the field, smelling like burnt toast….
September 21st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Too bad they don’t make them like Corey anymore. He woulda been perfect for my new boy band, 2K4S. In tryouts today, a kid was auditioning (at least that’s what I tell them), and he looked totally like a cross between Bieber and Lance Bass. I’m thinking of having him in the group because I’m sure I can teach him to pull major strippers and we can hit the hot tub with some cucumbers. HOLLA!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
50.RaidO Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
DKnight
Allen’s hands are tied with Knapp just like Hue’s were with Chuck B.
You can’t make changes once the season has started. Would take WEEKS to learn anything meaningfully new. And those weeks would be all muddled and filled with even worse losses than right now.
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Hue had no choice
DA picked Knapp
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DA can also demote or fire Knapp. Hue could not do that with Chuck B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
RaidO is absolutely correct. Reggie gave Dennis Allen carte blanche in hiring his entire coaching staff.
Knapp is all on Allen, as is the special teams coach, of whom I have greater complaints thereof.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
In fact does everyone realize that the Raiders two greatest strengths were offense and special teams last two years, and they are the worst in the NFL.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Wow. When this totally female stripper was slurping me while I watched Corey, I noticed she must have slipped a cucumber in her shorts, because it was bulging down there. She’s such a BEEECH PARTIER!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Strippers can be so fun. She told me to close my eyes and she snuck her cucumber in the Beeech’s mouth. It wasn’t cold anymore, but it had some dressing on it.
HOLLA!
(not gay and never have been in all the time I’ve been posting)
September 21st, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Well, the Troll is not going to let us discuss football.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Guys that party like you Beech eventually end up with a cucumber in their mouth.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Just entertaining you nerds. There are lots of boys on here who support me:
DJ Johnny
Raider O
Hardline (aka Big Nasty)
DMAC R8ER Mike
Bo Schembechler Jackson
Dan78
Hwnrdr
Hairy Bush
RaiderLen
Plunketthead
KISSSES!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Blog Brahs, Friday the 13th Part V is totally of the chizzle!
Just called in the Papa – Papa John’s, that is – for a large pep pie and some hot chipotle wings
You know it ain’t a Beeech Diggity Party unless them wings are bringing the SO CAL HEAT
Got a couple Spearmint Rhino babes coming over later to try and tame the Beeech Lawg
They’ll fail – again – btw
WRECKS N EFFECT 2012
September 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Guys that party like you Beech eventually end up with a cucumber in their mouth.
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Duh. Haven’t you been reading between the lines all these years?
TWIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Love the Rhino ladies. Especially when they show me their horn!
HOLLA! BEEECH DIGGITY!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
I agree with Kell, surprisingly; Marcus Allen lighting the flame is a wonderful thing. Despite all the static that went on between him and Mr. Davis, Allen was and always be a true Raider.
Welcome home!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Spear Me Rhino!
Totally not gay.
WRECKS!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Beeeech Dawg Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Just entertaining you nerds. There are lots of boys on here who support me:
DJ Johnny
Raider O
Hardline (aka Big Nasty)
DMAC R8ER Mike
Bo Schembechler Jackson
Dan78
Hwnrdr
Hairy Bush
RaiderLen
Plunketthead
KISSSES!
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Woooowww. Get a life.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Yep, Welcome Home, Marcus!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Its a sad state of affairs in Raider Nation. You are witnessing the collaspe of something that could have been special. Mistake, after mistake, after mistake.
Mistake #1 – Dismissing Hue Jackson, who led this offense for 2 years and created one of the most explosive units in the NFL, when it was clear as day that was the strength of the team. Only the defense needed some adjustments.
Mistake #2 – Firing most of the offensive coaches including the line coach that this unit loved and had them run blocking like champs
Mistake #3 – Hiring that fuk’n Gregg Knapp (and not handing the baton to A.Saunders) to run the offense ESPECIALLY AFTER HE ALREADY FAILED HERE BEFORE!!! And allowin that unimaginative OC to completely dismantle the strength of the team and install something that DID NOT WORK BEFORE!!!
Mistake #4 – Mishandling the retention of talent (L.Murphy, M.Bush, S.Routt, S.Satele (for depth), DVD (futre potential), B.Campbell (great future potential), etc.) and replacing this talent with subpar players all over the board (completely no name WRs, street bum DBs, sucker RB, etc). If Al were still alive its of extreme likelihood you could have seen Mario Williams in Silver & Black. The offense would have stayed largely in tact and possibly improved.
These mistakes are shared by DA and Reggie. They better start correcting them soon. As I see it, they are killing something that was on the brink of being special. If they keep this up, its a long term rebuild. Palmer won’t work in this system, nor will DMC. Most of our talent will be gone, all due to these monumental errors (and hires).
Its a fuk’n sht show!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Berman picks us 24-21.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Marcus Allen isn’t showing up unannounced. He was clearly asked to do this.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Brahs, just took a HUGE duece and was fortunate enough to also plop out this epic Rasta Ganja jam
Was totally inspired by all the play I got today at the Ritz pool. The frozen-cucumber-in-the-trunks-trick paid HUGE dividends, whut whut
Anyway, this jam is called “Jah Beeech Lawg Ruleth”, all about how Jamaican babes worship my ding-dong (ps – this is based on many true stories):
Shaka Brah, we proud of our Jamaican government
Pass a bill to erect a Beeech Lawg monument
On land, on sand or even at sea
Let’s just make it tall so all dem ladies can see
TAKING THIS JAM BACK TO 1993
September 21st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Yo blog brahs! When I’m partying in SD this weekend, gonna totally slip down to Old Mexico and see if I can find me some Latin Boys for my new side group HOT PEPPERS. Should sell a million in the first week. First single will be called “Dip You Hot Tamale”. It will be a totally new dance craze featuring you guessed it, cucumbers and hot tubs. Love me some of that MexiCal heat in a Beeech Diggity Jam!
JUST KEEPING IT REAL! SHIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Its a sad state of affairs in Raider Nation. You are witnessing the collaspe of something that could have been special. Mistake, after mistake, after mistake.
Mistake #1 – Dismissing Hue Jackson, who led this offense for 2 years and created one of the most explosive units in the NFL, when it was clear as day that was the strength of the team. Only the defense needed some adjustments.
Mistake #2 – Firing most of the offensive coaches including the line coach that this unit loved and had them run blocking like champs
Mistake #3 – Hiring that fuk’n Gregg Knapp (and not handing the baton to A.Saunders) to run the offense ESPECIALLY AFTER HE ALREADY FAILED HERE BEFORE!!! And allowin that unimaginative OC to completely dismantle the strength of the team and install something that DID NOT WORK BEFORE!!!
Mistake #4 – Mishandling the retention of talent (L.Murphy, M.Bush, S.Routt, S.Satele (for depth), DVD (futre potential), B.Campbell (great future potential), etc.) and replacing this talent with subpar players all over the board (completely no name WRs, street bum DBs, sucker RB, etc). If Al were still alive its of extreme likelihood you could have seen Mario Williams in Silver & Black. The offense would have stayed largely in tact and possibly improved.
These mistakes are shared by DA and Reggie. They better start correcting them soon. As I see it, they are killing something that was on the brink of being special. If they keep this up, its a long term rebuild. Palmer won’t work in this system, nor will DMC. Most of our talent will be gone, all due to these monumental errors (and hires).
Its a fuk’n sht show!
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I agree on all, except #4, maybe.
But yes, you said it like it is.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
TAKING THIS JAM BACK TO 1993
Same year as the cutoff date for my boy band members.
HOLLA!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
If the Raiders are within 20 this week I count it as a success.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Berman picks us 24-21.
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I hope he’s right.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
beechy needs to come back home. wearing pumps and a pushup bra like he used to
September 21st, 2012 at 4:35 pm
isn’t it amazing that alot of still think the raiders can pull this off?
RAIDERRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSS
September 21st, 2012 at 4:35 pm
This has to be the first year in a long time that I have gone into a football season uninspired, knowing what the outcome may be, and not looking forward to anything. I had a bad feeling when Reggie appeared dismissive (to me) of the legacy of the Raiders. I thought it was of paramount importance for the new GM to get this fundamental fact and at least acknowledge it. KNOW WHAT YOUR TEAM IS!!
Then they fired Hue. OK bad decision but at least keep A.Saunders. I expected Saunders to assume command of the offense. Nope, these dummies bring in Gregg freakin Knapp and from there I knew we were heading completely in the wrong direction. Just an assinine decision, a monumental screw up. From that point, I just stayed away from this mess.
The performance of this team is a byproduct of these decisions.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Blog Brahs, I don’t think any of you have anything to worry about on Sunday
While the Beeech Diggity is chillin with Rasta Ganja at the Catamaran pool, you can all douse yourselves with my new fragrance, CERTIFIED PLATINUM to help the Raiders represent
A few spritzes and we’re guaranteed to at least achieve a first down when you least expect it
Just make sure you spritz on your 1) nads 2) abs 3) weiner in that order
You know how them Big Dawgs Bark, meow
September 21st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Berman picks us 24-21.
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Actually, MR, I think there is the possibility of an upset but I wouldn’t put money on it.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Wasn’t there a beef between Al and Marcus having to do withMarcus sleeping with someone’s wife? Or am I completely wrong?
September 21st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
featuring you guessed it, cucumbers and hot tubs
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now if that isn’t funny
September 21st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Wasn’t there a beef between Al and Marcus having to do withMarcus sleeping with someone’s wife? Or am I completely wrong?
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some say oj’s wife, some say teammates wives, some say al’s grandaughter. if al benched him off principle, and i’d guess rightfully so
September 21st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Marcus Allen had a hard time getting along with Al but so did Snake.
So what?
Allen was a great Raider and I’m all for him lighting the torch.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:41 pm
You nerds know you need some of my new fragrance CP, to spray on your nads, abs, and weiners. That’s why I made it. So you and I can celebrate your nether regions smelling like the Beecher. Totally not gay. Just partying with strippers because you know that’s what I’m a bout. Body Spray, cucumbers, boy bands, Corey Feldman. Like I said, totally not gay.
SHIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
You’re going to see more ex-Raiders returning now that Al and his goon Herrera are no longer bad-mouthing them (see also Rich Gannon).
September 21st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
beechy wears womens clothes
September 21st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Current Mistakes of Raider Fans:
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Mistake #1 – Dismissing Hue Jackson, **Jackson was terrible. He had to go
Mistake #2 – Firing most of the offensive coaches **Again, this was a unit that was mediocre at best. And not very good in the Red Zone.
Mistake #3 – Hiring that fuk’n Gregg Knapp** Jury is still out on this one. But as I wrote a few days ago, The Raiders are married to Allen and MacKenzie. But they are not married to Knapp.
Mistake #4 – Mishandling the retention of talent** I concur that losing Murphy, and DVD were curious decisions. However I think you have to give Mackenzie at least a real draft to see what he can do. Burris looks like a gem in the 5th.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The only reason the Raiders have a slight chance this Sunday is because TP & Harrison are out. So they won’t be laying wood on this offense. But I don’t count that as winning in my book. I count that as getting lucky (only to flat when reality hits the next week).
I used to think we have a shot every Sunday against any opponent. Now, I know what the outcome will be and only LUCK will get us a W.
You see guys, we’re not really talking about player execution. We’re talking about something wrong at the core, the base – the OC that is heading everything, calling the plays, and trying to force a system on players. Thats why I have no hope for this season as long as he is there. The longer he is there the more the damage that will be done.
I bigger fear is the longer Reggie is here, the more terrible decision he will make with the roster. And we will be left with a bunch of sucky, SLOW!! players.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Murphy currently has 4 catches in 3 games for the Panthers. I wish him well, but would rather the draft pick.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Anybody know Beckers e-mail?
This sh&t has got to stop.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
If it were not for the Pitt’s injuries the Raiders would not have a shot in hell. No S.Routt or DVD or even C.Johnson at DB. All probably better than what we have now! Big Ben and Wallace would have a field day out there.
I still don’t think they have much of a shot because of the issues at the core. OC and his shi-tty system.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Brahs, just got word from my doorman that the Rasta Ganja tour van is already loaded and fully gassed up
After I finish off this Papa John’s and a few more margaritas, I’ll be feeling the same (get it, i’ll be loaded and fully gassed up as well, holla)
Gonna cruise down and roll a hide a few huge doobies in the bass drum
Perfect for a mid-set smoke out session
Call it Ultimate Beeech Dawg Diggity Knowledge. Gots to drop it like its hot, whut whut
September 21st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Anybody know Beckers e-mail?
This sh&t has got to stop.
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jon.becker@bayareanewsgroup.com
September 21st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I’m not a big Murphy fan anymore, but what the hell did we replace him with?
September 21st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Anybody know Beckers e-mail?
This sh&t has got to stop.
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Oops! I mean jbecker@bayareanewsgroup.com
September 21st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I’m not a big Murphy fan anymore, but what the hell did we replace him with?
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Rod Streater.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
The Raiders certainly have a chance. We are depleted, they have some losses on their side as well. The interior of their Oline has not played well. This game boils down to can our defensive linemen create enough of a pass rush to help the secondary. There is your game right there.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Thanks Duck.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
No S.Routt or DVD or even C.Johnson at DB. All probably better than what we have now!
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youre saying that RMac has done a poor GM job, cutting and hiring certain players…
I would agree now with you. before no, but now, you cant ignore the results, and the results are that those players hired by Rmac dont ignite nobodys imagination as playmakers…
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
What did we replace M.Bush with? S.Routt, C.Johnson? et al. The list goes on. This team is being downgraded across the board. You may not have liked these players and I certainly had issues, but we did not upgrade a single area I can think of right now!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Thanks Duck.
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No prob. I had to e-mail him and Corkran a few months back about that “Reggies Freckled Face” idiot who kept spamming the group with these stupid trade fabrications.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Yes Reggie has done a poor job. Bringing in injury prone starting CB’s is one of them.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Gonna totally cruise down in my van to SD. Gonna cruise down there too. Same van I use for some late night scans of the 7-11. Stop in and get a Slurpee and maybe recruit some members for the boy band. Get them hella loaded and gassed up, and….here come the cucumbers!
SD PARTY!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
youre saying that RMac has done a poor GM job, cutting and hiring certain players…
I would agree now with you. before no, but now, you cant ignore the results, and the results are that those players hired by Rmac dont ignite nobodys imagination as playmakers…
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Phillip Wheeler has played pretty well. Goodson looks like a find. The problem I see on this roster are the guys already here: McFadden has been awful, and McClain played poorly last week.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Thanks Duck.
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No prob. I had to e-mail him and Corkran a few months back about that “Reggies Freckled Face” idiot who kept spamming the group with these stupid trade fabrications.
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Duck in a few hours Nob Raider will be back posting as himself and you can just bust on him to your heart’s desire
More fun watching him meltdown than banning the minion, gots to keep it real
September 21st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Regie said he wanted playmakers
Other than Goodson, I dont see a playmaker in the bunch. Wheeler?
Those CB’s seem like practice squad material.
he basically downgraded the roster because of salary cap issues and contracts, but his replacements arent NFL material. Its sad, for sure.
Everybody had high hopes for that Gm, coming from GB and being recommended by Wold…
September 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
What did we replace M.Bush with? S.Routt, C.Johnson? et al. The list goes on. This team is being downgraded across the board. You may not have liked these players and I certainly had issues, but we did not upgrade a single area I can think of right now!
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Spencer replaced CJ: Upgrade
Streater replaced Murphy: Upgrade
Leinart replaced Boller: Upgrade
Burris replaced Groves: Upgrade
September 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Beeech Dawg–entertaining you with totally not gay stories of cucumbers, hot tubs, dumps, abs, nads, weiners (mine and yours), boy bands, and Coreys for years. BEEECH DIGGITY!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I still have hope for Reggie, but he needs to get his head out of his azz and start doing things right. Give us some upgrades, not budget players. Get that damn fake azz OC outta here NOW!!! Return the Raiders to their roots – Power, Vertical. And lets start choppin wood!!
September 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Regie said he wanted playmakers
Other than Goodson, I dont see a playmaker in the bunch. Wheeler?
Those CB’s seem like practice squad material.
he basically downgraded the roster because of salary cap issues and contracts, but his replacements arent NFL material. Its sad, for sure.
Everybody had high hopes for that Gm, coming from GB and being recommended by Wold…
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Give him time, specifically an offseason where he’s not having to bring an entire organization into this century while hamstrung by awful cap-killing contracts.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Yeah its a shame we fired Huge. He really had the team headed in the right direction. And with more control like he demeanded I am sure he would really have created a legacy of lasting duration. 4th quarter comebacks where the offense scores game ending TDs in bunches and runs out the clock with efficiency.
Extrapolating his record after Thanksgiving when his team went a scintillating 1-4 and got themselves a sweet view from under the bus as a reward, we’d be looking at a solid 3-13 finish this year.
But alas, the much sought after Huge, got himself a sweet job as head coach of a respected franchise and a multi-million dollar, multi-year contract just as soon as he was let go. Since he’d never leave that gig, I guess we’ll never get to find out.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Thanks Duck.
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No prob. I had to e-mail him and Corkran a few months back about that “Reggies Freckled Face” idiot who kept spamming the group with these stupid trade fabrications.
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i have no problem with beech dog, infact i think he waivers between hilarious and repetitive…but harmless. funny how everyone takes him so serious.this fake beeech guy is psychotic and ruining the blog. beech never did that. he says his stuff and moves along.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
i have no problem with beech dog,
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Don’t you realize he brings all the other trolls here?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Thanks Duck.
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No prob. I had to e-mail him and Corkran a few months back about that “Reggies Freckled Face” idiot who kept spamming the group with these stupid trade fabrications.
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i have no problem with beech dog, infact i think he waivers between hilarious and repetitive…but harmless. funny how everyone takes him so serious.this fake beeech guy is psychotic and ruining the blog. beech never did that. he says his stuff and moves along.
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Another BEEECH BOY in the hizzie! My totally not gay stories are what this blog is all about and you finding them hilarious says a lot about you. You’re totally not gay like me!
FIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Trolls are like termites. They don’t need a pied-piper to lead/bring them anywhere…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Yeah its a shame we fired Huge. He really had the team headed in the right direction.
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Ending the season playing .200 ball is headed in the right direction? Tom Cable got this team headed in the right direction. Jackson seized on that, and then effed it up.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Im sure nobody here would be talking about GM if not for that loser Knapp.
That O under Hue had a identity, they ran the ball and over people, much like the 49ers do under Harbaug (what a concept, run the ball!)
These polyana raiders OL guys, they are being dominated each sunday, and it will continue, cause defenses aint afraid of Palmers boots or play pass, so its 8-9 in the box.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Spencer better than CJ? I’ll wait until he actually plays in some games. The secondary has looked weak since preseason. And for the record I even used to refer to CJ as “Toast” Johnson cause he always getting burned. Now, I wouldn’t mind him at all compared to what we have.
Streater bettter than Murphy? Jury’s still out, to me there is not a noticable upgrade.
Lienhart is better than Boller (but he’s not taking us anywhere)
Burris vs Groves I’ll give you that.
Loss M.Bush > Goodson
Loss S. Routt > Everything we have a DB now
Loss Satele > whoever is a backup now
Loss high potential talents DVD & B.Campbell and we can use both right now.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Thanks Duck.
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No prob. I had to e-mail him and Corkran a few months back about that “Reggies Freckled Face” idiot who kept spamming the group with these stupid trade fabrications.
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i have no problem with beech dog, infact i think he waivers between hilarious and repetitive…but harmless. funny how everyone takes him so serious.this fake beeech guy is psychotic and ruining the blog. beech never did that. he says his stuff and moves along.
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It’s true my stories about cucumbers, hot tubs, dumps, abs, nads, weiners (mine and yours), boy bands, and Coreys are hilarious but harmless. Just entertaining right Raider8? You are definitely invited to one of my cucumber parties. Me and you Nizzle!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Don’t talk to me about cap. The old man was dealing with that for a decade and always seemed to get his players. The cap is bs.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Trolls are like termites. They don’t need a pied-piper to lead/bring them anywhere…
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He does bring other non Raider fans here. If you have noticed someone will get into it with him and then 2 or 3 others will start jumping on that Raider fan. It’s been that way for a while. That idiot clown should go.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
That is somewhat true. The immediate problem right now is the OC. Get rid of him and reinstall the system I believe we will become more competitive.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Loss M.Bush > Goodson
Loss S. Routt > Everything we have a DB now
Loss Satele > whoever is a backup now
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But we could not afford them. Bush got $7mm. Routt was supposed to get a ton. Wimbley like $12mm. Satele got tired of Raider fan complaining about his play the whole time he played fairly well. I lot like what is happening now.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Exactly WHAT defcoord was Huge going to hire if he became coach/min-gm? Some bum who lived in a van at the beach with him and Cable back in the CalSt Fullerton days? Wait for Marv Lewis to be canned by Cinci?
What is going on in Oakland now is the result of Al mortgaging the future to win while he was still around, and Huge’s mortgaging same to bring in Palmer to save his @ss from the post-Davis fire!
Yeah it may suck for a while but the plan is LONG term. Get used to it.
Caveat: wasn’t keen on the Knapp hire. I woulda gone with old Al Saunders and some continuity. But they don’t pay me to make those decisions, clearly….
September 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
You people are fuk’n pathetic.
Palmer is the best quarterback we’ve had since Gannon but Hue paid WAY too much for him
One of the consequences of Hue’s lousy managership of the team was that when McKenzie came in there was no money and no picks to bring people in and McKenzie said clearly that he didn’t want to trade future picks.
Hue sucked as a HC, get over it.
We started the year with a new GM, a new HC, a new offensive coach, a new defensive coach, a new system, alternating centers over two weeks, and a relatively new quarterback and you act you like we were supposed to go to the Superbowl but McKenzie screwed it up.
Get a fuk’n brain already or go to your dentist and get a lobotomy.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
The old man would sign players to these mega deals only to restructure so they fit under the cap every year like clockwork. Don’t tell me about cap issues. Thats nothin new.
Fire Gregg Knapp and go back to last year’s offense. Thats all I ask for now.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Huff was in seclusion because he knows this season is BS.. players know whats going on and they probaly cant believe how bad the offense looks.
Huff is just cashing his check at this point and whatever happens happens.. The coach has f’d over the team by switching offenses
September 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Seymour clearly your reading skills are sub-par. That was called “sarcasm”…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
What is going on in Oakland now is the result of Al mortgaging the future to win while he was still around, and Huge’s mortgaging same to bring in Palmer to save his @ss from the post-Davis fire!
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True. I liked the Palmer deal the day we did it, and I like it more now.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
The only question I have is if Hue Jackson was such a good coach why is he a assistant Special Teams coach/DBs coach? I was very sad to see him leave and thought he did a good job with the offense. I was fearful that Jackson would be the OC of the Chiefs and come to back to bite us like us like Rat-Face.
But nobody gave him a job? Why?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I wonder how long before one of these OCoords in the NFL loads his team with QB’s like Tyrell Pryor, Colin Kaepernic and Tim Tebow and goes ALL IN with the run option?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Loss high potential talents DVD & B.Campbell and we can use both right now.
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Bruce Campbell? The guy who’s running at third-string OT for the Panthers? He wouldn’t even have made our team.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
If we kept last year’s offense we would be 2-0 right now and looking very competive hosting Pitts. It would’ve probably been a prime time game (or nationally televised as the headline game for that time slot).
But nope, we’re here – bottom of the barrell at 0-2 looking pathetic, stratching our collective heads “what went wrong, whats going on, how do we fix it?”
September 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Seymour clearly your reading skills are sub-par. That was called “sarcasm”…
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I don’t think I commented on your sarcastic Hue rant.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
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DJ Johnny
Raider O
Hardline (aka Big Nasty)
DMAC R8ER Mike
Bo Schembechler Jackson
Dan78
Hwnrdr
Hairy Bush
RaiderLen
Plunketthead
If you like my cucumber stories and like to dip your nads into the hot tub (not gay), then maybe I’ll let you be in my posse too. Just defend me whenever a Raider fan attacks me.
BEEECH BOYZ are like my backup band. There to give me the support my crotchless jock strap doesn’t.
HIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
@122
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hue sucked as a HC, get over it.
We started the year with a new GM, a new HC, a new offensive coach, a new defensive coach, a new system, alternating centers over two weeks, and a relatively new quarterback and you act you like we were supposed to go to the Superbowl but McKenzie screwed it up.
Get a fuk’n brain already or go to your dentist and get a lobotomy.
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Hue sucked? Probably our best offensive playcaller in a while, FYI.
A relative new QB? LOL. Palmer is a veteran my friend, even rookies on other teams are playing better than him!!
Wow… LOL.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
The only question I have is if Hue Jackson was such a good coach why is he a assistant Special Teams coach/DBs coach? I was very sad to see him leave and thought he did a good job with the offense. I was fearful that Jackson would be the OC of the Chiefs and come to back to bite us like us like Rat-Face.
But nobody gave him a job? Why?
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Same reason why A.Saunders has been an assistant for years although he has a great offensive mind. And other great offensive coaches in the league who are not OCs. There simply aren’t many opportunities and you would be fortunate to land one (and the politics of HCs).
September 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Exactly WHAT defcoord was Huge going to hire if he became coach/min-gm? Some bum who lived in a van at the beach with him and Cable back in the CalSt Fullerton days? Wait for Marv Lewis to be canned by Cinci?
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Uh, Hue did work for the Ravens. Pretty good Defense minds. Overall I think Hue could have got a better guy than Tarver.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I wonder how long before one of these OCoords in the NFL loads his team with QB’s like Tyrell Pryor, Colin Kaepernic and Tim Tebow and goes ALL IN with the run option?
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I think it will be a while. Coming out of the gate this year, good Q’s were completing 70+% of their passes and were scoring in bunches. Newton did nothing yesterday. Run defenses have improved, pass defenses have withered. To be successful at least right now, you have to deliver the rock down the field with accuracy. That is something Tebow, Pryor and Kaepernick have not demonstrated they can do with any regularity.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Hue was a pimp who was bold and didnt make execuses with no offseason. He went for it and say what you want Raider football was exciting again. At the edge of ur seats while having no control of his staff.
and Allen is a schoolboy .. or looks like an assistant at Portland state football
September 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
The only question I have is if Hue Jackson was such a good coach why is he a assistant Special Teams coach/DBs coach? I was very sad to see him leave and thought he did a good job with the offense. I was fearful that Jackson would be the OC of the Chiefs and come to back to bite us like us like Rat-Face.
But nobody gave him a job? Why?
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Same reason why A.Saunders has been an assistant for years although he has a great offensive mind. And other great offensive coaches in the league who are not OCs. There simply aren’t many opportunities and you would be fortunate to land one (and the politics of HCs).
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You also have to throw in the Al Davies factor. Like a coach being tainted after working for Al.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I’m out. Just fire Knapp and return the offense to its prior state. Then I think we can start winning. Until then I believe you are starring at a 3-13 season. (2-4 wins max …and those will be lucky).
September 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I guess, according to Kell, and he’s probably right, this board is full of criss-crossing double crossing trolls, dudes posting with different tags and personas, amusing themselves in their loneliness, with no life other than their pimping life, right?
All I can say on that is that as far as this dude goes there is only one.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
143.JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hue sucked as a HC, get over it.
We started the year with a new GM, a new HC, a new offensive coach, a new defensive coach, a new system, alternating centers over two weeks, and a relatively new quarterback and you act you like we were supposed to go to the Superbowl but McKenzie screwed it up.
Get a fuk’n brain already or go to your dentist and get a lobotomy.
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Hue sucked? Probably our best offensive playcaller in a while, FYI.
A relative new QB? LOL. Palmer is a veteran my friend, even rookies on other teams are playing better than him!!
Wow… LOL.
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I think he meant as HC, not OC. Two separate issues…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
The only question I have is if Hue Jackson was such a good coach why is he a assistant Special Teams coach/DBs coach? I was very sad to see him leave and thought he did a good job with the offense. I was fearful that Jackson would be the OC of the Chiefs and come to back to bite us like us like Rat-Face.
But nobody gave him a job? Why?
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i think it’s because he broke some rules of behavior or something. gm’s are wary of him causing discord.
there are alot of coaches with worse records and resume’s.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Got it. Sorry. I have had too many fans here supporting Jackson. To me it boggles the mind.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
The battle in the trenches wins games…. riiight?
Well pitt o-line is worse than Miami’s … I think the d-line can do some damage, well quite frankly *IT HAS TO.
I also think as awful as our secondary was last week, they will be better even tho pitt passing game is much better …. I think our pass rush will even things out a bit.
This is a close game, the turnover stat column will be a huge indicator. Seabass will need to be big in the end.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Without Al Davis, I don’t recognize this team. They wear Raider colors but on the field don’t resemble any Raider team I’ve seen in my 45 years alive, born in Oakland. So my expectations are low right now, as they should be when a team rebuilds from the top down. Real fans know this. Hurts me not to be able to talk much sh:t about my team and Oakland, but when my folks talk crazy I just take it like a man knowing where we are in the rebuilding process that seems to have taken decades. But as long as they are the Oakland Raiders I will represent. Because as long as it says Oakland in front of the Raider, they represent ME.
I’ve been reading this blog and comments for many years. A lot of you are idiots especially the ones that wished death on Al Davis. And you call yourself Raider fans. I’m just sayin.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RaidO, how many Ravens assistants did he land/hire when he got the HC job?
He was a QB coach for the Ravens. Not exactly the height of power plays.
But what ahs gotten lost with the fans regarding Huge, is he is solely the one responsible for the boat he now sits in. Too much talk not enough substance. I think the guy blew it.
And we are paying the price now…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
But nobody gave him a job? Why?
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Maybe it’s because he is not a very good coach. Shoot, Pete Carrol broke all kinds of rules and regs and he got promoted.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Hue was a pimp who was bold and didnt make execuses with no offseason. He went for it and say what you want Raider football was exciting again. At the edge of ur seats while having no control of his staff.
and Allen is a schoolboy .. or looks like an assistant at Portland state football-
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WOW one HUGE thing that has been left out in all the talk about Hue. First year coach that had no off season. Add that to the list
September 21st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I like the over in this one, whatever it is. I see our offense playing better and turning some of these yards into TDs. Not exactly sure why, just a gut feeling. And I see our secondary having trouble with the Steelers’ passing gam, which is formidable on its own.
As for who wins, or at least the betting line, I’m not so sure. On the surface it would portend that the Steelers should be like a 7 to 11 point favorite, IMO. Raiders are ranked at or near the bottom of most analysts power rankings, a feeling that is shared by the average betting fan. So why are they only 4 or 4.5 point favorites. Whenever I see a line like that I’ve learned to tread lightly rather than dive in with both feet. Went against that signal somewhat last week when I saw the Ravens were something like -1 against the Eagles a week after the Ravens looked like world beaters and the Eagles were lucky to eke one out in Cleveland. Thought that was a gimmie for Baltimore to cover. Of course they lost. Steelers are that too good to be true line this week.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
MEX_GHOST Says:
LOL, I needed to search twice. WTF is aphid in Spanish, oh well I found it, is Áfido.
Now, WTF is the meaning of “áfido”.
Shít, I didn´t find it in the dictionary.///////////////////////// Spanish/ English or English/Spanish dictionary?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
37.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Believe me .. Allen/ Knapp are feeling the pressure already. Knapp is over here talking before questions are being asked to the media.. screaming patience with smirks on his face
Allen is telling the media certainly there is a sense of urgency. So which is guys? FCK!! Say what u want about hue .. he gave u something to cheer for and being on ur seat about. Its gonna take a while for some fans to get over hue.. because Allen / knapp has shown zero so far. ZERO. Did I mention HUE didnt even have an offseason last year?
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Yeah, but he got manicures…AND he was boisterous and confident.
Therefore he was a “pimp”.
Now you know.
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Yeah, at least Hue kept this team competitive and kept the offense exciting and he was heavily involved with the community.
It was a stupid mistake not to give him a full year with Palmer as his QB and with a better defensive coordinator.
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Yup what makes it even worse.. Mckenzie when taking the job was under the impression he already had a HC (Hue) it wasnt till he got to the facility for his intro presser that Mark told Reggie he had to fire hue
September 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I think Seymour Bush is right, if we are going to have a chance against the Stellers it will be our D-Line stepping up…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Anyone that expects this team to do better than 5-11 is insane. And I f:ckin LOVE the Raiders.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hue sucked as a HC, get over it.
We started the year with a new GM, a new HC, a new offensive coach, a new defensive coach, a new system, alternating centers over two weeks, and a relatively new quarterback and you act you like we were supposed to go to the Superbowl but McKenzie screwed it up.
Get a fuk’n brain already or go to your dentist and get a lobotomy.
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Hue sucked? Probably our best offensive playcaller in a while, FYI.
A relative new QB? LOL. Palmer is a veteran my friend, even rookies on other teams are playing better than him!!
Wow… LOL.
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Wow yourself jackazz.
1. Palmer was drafted by Hue off his coach while he was still eating Doritos and was new to us, most importantly to the OL and to the receivers and the system.
2. And I said Hue was a lousy HC, moron. Try and learn how to read, it might help with your comprehension problems.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Hope Kelly, Seymour and Bryant run roughshod over the Rapeburger Sunday. JLofty needs a Raider win to restore balance in the force…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
*couch
September 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Palmer was drafted by Hue off his coach
LOL at my own typo.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
i’ve seen alot worse than hue jackson…currently coaching. 8-8 wasn’t bad for a guy who lost his qb, had a rotten defensive coach that he didn’t have a choice in having, and having mcfadden out most of the yr. wasnt dmac top rusher in league when he got injured?
makes me wonder if there might be something else behind the hue hate.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
The big dogs need to cause some QB fumbles…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Yup what makes it even worse.. Mckenzie when taking the job was under the impression he already had a HC (Hue) it wasnt till he got to the facility for his intro presser that Mark told Reggie he had to fire hue
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Now you are just making crap up. You think Reggie was begging to retain Hue and Mark overuled him?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RaidO, how many Ravens assistants did he land/hire when he got the HC job?
He was a QB coach for the Ravens. Not exactly the height of power plays.
But what ahs gotten lost with the fans regarding Huge, is he is solely the one responsible for the boat he now sits in. Too much talk not enough substance. I think the guy blew it.
And we are paying the price now…
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No, Mark Davis and Reggie are just idiots.
Hue Jackson:
“When I think back on it, I think I’m being blamed, and have been blamed, for [all of that],” Jackson said. “What gets me is, I know [Bengals owner] Mike Brown and I know Carson Palmer, but I didn’t make the trade. That decision came from above. It involved draft picks and money. But it wasn’t my call.
“I’m tired of people saying that I’m power hungry, that I’m a blowhard, that I’m saying all the wrong things. I never said I wanted to be the general manager. I said I wanted input. What coach wouldn’t want some input in the direction of the organization?
“When I said I wanted to play a greater role, what I meant by that was, I’m going to get a defensive coordinator that I want. I’m going to get the staff members that I want. And the players that weren’t playing well aren’t gonna be here.
“Before, I didn’t have a chance in all of those things. Everybody knows my hands were tied – I worked for Al Davis. He ran the defense, always had. It’s part of the job.”
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I miss AL.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: Yup what makes it even worse.. Mckenzie when taking the job was under the impression he already had a HC (Hue) it wasnt till he got to the facility for his intro presser that Mark told Reggie he had to fire hue//////////////////////////////WHAT??? Which troll is this?
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue was the man. No question about it. Love the fact he coached with some big, brass ones. Still chuckle about some of his moves from time.
BTW, anyone see that TD Green Bay scored on the fake FG last week against Chicago? Exact same play Hue and Bones Fassel drew up and called last year.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Raider8 I went to college with Huge when he was our option QB. Was very hopeful he do something with our team.
Fact is he largely failed. He turned out to be a LOT about himself and not much of a leader. Did you hear what he said when the Palmer trade went thru? “Now we got ourselves a real QB.” Now I thought Soup was a solid backup QB at best but he was a CLASS act thru and thru. You just don’t do that to people like Campbell.
Then the post game stuff after HIS team went 1-4 to close the season…just too much. He got himself fired.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Look at what deion sanders had to say via twitter
DeionSandersVerified@DeionSanders
Oakland Raiders will make u mad if u allow them to. Their to good to be that bad!
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Some big names saying the same thing and that scheme doesnt fit. LO NEAL, ROD WOODSON, ROMO, PAPA (voice of Raiders) n he is a Raider lap dog
September 21st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Raider O Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I miss AL.
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Me too O.
I miss Al and his crazy azz gambles.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue was the man. No question about it. Love the fact he coached with some big, brass ones. Still chuckle about some of his moves from time.
BTW, anyone see that TD Green Bay scored on the fake FG last week against Chicago? Exact same play Hue and Bones Fassel drew up and called last year.
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Yeah the sports “talkers” made a big deal of that fake. My first reaction was that’s classic Hue Jackson right there.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue was the man. No question about it. Love the fact he coached with some big, brass ones. Still chuckle about some of his moves from time.
BTW, anyone see that TD Green Bay scored on the fake FG last week against Chicago? Exact same play Hue and Bones Fassel drew up and called last year.
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What about that DMC to Jason Campbell throw back he tried 2-3 times lol.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hue sucked as a HC, get over it.
We started the year with a new GM, a new HC, a new offensive coach, a new defensive coach, a new system, alternating centers over two weeks, and a relatively new quarterback and you act you like we were supposed to go to the Superbowl but McKenzie screwed it up.
Get a fuk’n brain already or go to your dentist and get a lobotomy.
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Hue sucked? Probably our best offensive playcaller in a while, FYI.
A relative new QB? LOL. Palmer is a veteran my friend, even rookies on other teams are playing better than him!!
Wow… LOL.
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Wow yourself jackazz.
1. Palmer was drafted by Hue off his coach while he was still eating Doritos and was new to us, most importantly to the OL and to the receivers and the system.
2. And I said Hue was a lousy HC, moron. Try and learn how to read, it might help with your comprehension problems.
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You are clearly a IDIOT, but Ill answer you anyways in the language of insults that you choose, being the chaotic moron you are.
1-Palmer after one FULL ofseason, is still rated below than a lot of younger QB’s… YOU said he is still a relatively new quarterback… So you sound like a retard from the Old World my boy.
2. Hue, even as a HC, not a OC as you say (who cares, its the same), is much better playcaller since you were a raider fan ‘bloke’. Thats all the way back to Gruden.
Dont bother answering, Ill kick your ol englan a s s again.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RaidO Says:
Hue Jackson:
“When I think back on it, I think I’m being blamed, and have been blamed, for [all of that],” Jackson said. “What gets me is, I know [Bengals owner] Mike Brown and I know Carson Palmer, but I didn’t make the trade. That decision came from above. It involved draft picks and money. But it wasn’t my call.
“I’m tired of people saying that I’m power hungry, that I’m a blowhard, that I’m saying all the wrong things. I never said I wanted to be the general manager. I said I wanted input. What coach wouldn’t want some input in the direction of the organization?
“When I said I wanted to play a greater role, what I meant by that was, I’m going to get a defensive coordinator that I want. I’m going to get the staff members that I want. And the players that weren’t playing well aren’t gonna be here.
“Before, I didn’t have a chance in all of those things. Everybody knows my hands were tied – I worked for Al Davis. He ran the defense, always had. It’s part of the job.”///////////////////////////Reminds me of a song by Captain Beyond called “Dancing Madly Backward”.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Jackson made a LOT of promises. None of them came true. He said he was going to “build a bully”. Not only did he not, the team was getting PASTED at the end of the season. He said he was going to cut down on penalties. The team ended up being the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN HISTORY. He said we were going to the playoffs. We didn’t. I can go on and on. The league has ruled on Jackson. He is probably getting his nails done right now as we speak.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Beeeeww…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I don’t miss Fabian Washington, Javon Walker, Marc Wilson, Todd Marajuanvich, Jamayonnaise, Larry Brown, Lance Muffin, Mike White, Tom Walsh and that punk @$$ CB who he dumped a BUNCH of $$$ on a few years ago…
I’d like to start forgetting about double-digit losses soon though.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue was the man. No question about it. Love the fact he coached with some big, brass ones. Still chuckle about some of his moves from time.
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Absoutely, it was fuk’n hilarious when he didn’t go for the field goal in the Cleveland game that we lost by three and then there was the time that he needed to go for two points but went to get his fuk’n nails done instead. (*Sarcasm).
September 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: Yup what makes it even worse.. Mckenzie when taking the job was under the impression he already had a HC (Hue) it wasnt till he got to the facility for his intro presser that Mark told Reggie he had to fire hue//////////////////////////////WHAT??? Which troll is this?
lol looks like u were not here on last nights blog when i went back and read and watch old clips.
REggie MCKENZIE didn NOT want to FIRE HUE. REggie MCKENZIE was under the impression that he already had a HC when coming to his INTRO PRESSER (HUE) he was under the impression that all he had to do was find a DC. It wasnt till he got to the facility that MARK informed him he had to fire HUE. WOW
MARK DID. THE answer is right here
http://youtu.be/-oryX23CqjM
Ok according to that video and henry woorford.. it was the last game of the season that did HUE in. Especially his post game presser.
Mark Davis met with some of the players after the game and they expressed to him that they didnt like HUE as their head coach. What a f’n joke. Why cuz HUE had balls to call u guys out and he was gonna get rid of the underachievers. I wonder what players Mark Met with. I bet one was Jacoby ford still pissed about the campbell thing. He is also the guy who slipped on the rout for that last PALMER INT
Even CORK said in his chats it was MARK who canned hue but let mckenzie do it
September 21st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
The most penalized team in NFL history. Sad but true.
However in Huge’s defense we can’t pin that entirely on him. Guy did have NFL refs at EVERY practice.
And about every HC the Raiders have ever had has his name on a Raider team in the top 20 of penalties…
September 21st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
ENGLAND,
He made things interesting.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I don’t miss Fabian Washington, Javon Walker, Marc Wilson, Todd Marajuanvich, Jamayonnaise, Larry Brown, Lance Muffin, Mike White, Tom Walsh and that punk @$$ CB who he dumped a BUNCH of $$$ on a few years ago…
I’d like to start forgetting about double-digit losses soon though.
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My feelings exactly. The “Jivin” Walker debacle was just classic. Here was a bona fide #1 receiver who was basically not medically cleared to play. Davis took a flyer on him. It was a gamble that did not pay off. But when he did it AGAIN, after Walker strolled into Davis’s office and told him he couldn’t take his money, and Davis STILL drove a dump truck full of cash to Walkers limo, it just boggles the mind…..
September 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Time to go enjoy the weekend!
Raiders 31 – Steelers 24.
Peace Raider Nation!
September 21st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
The most penalized team in NFL history. Sad but true.
However in Huge’s defense we can’t pin that entirely on him. Guy did have NFL refs at EVERY practice.
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I think the point is he could not control the team. And he certainly should not have written checks his ass couldn’t cash. THAT, was Jackson.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
JLofty Says: He got himself fired.//////////// He not only misplayed the coaching thing(fire bresh after Al died) but misspoke his a$$ outta town as well. Remember when we all wanted to here Hue speak? Why didn’t we? Because Al Davis put a gag on the self serving sob. Al knew who Hue was. And kept him because he was a decent OC but not HC. Al just couldn’t take Cable anymore and still wanted Palmer so Hue had to stay.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
watched HUES intro presser when he was named HC. Al davis said TOM was a pure ZBS and he did not like that at all. The reason why hue was hired in 2010 is because Al and Hue would draw plays on the white board and he was familar with the POWER, GAP, and Minimal Zone blocks that he used in Baltimore.
Al was excited about that. The power and gap blocking. Well in 2010 u saw that and DMAC come on in 2011 the first 6 games u already know. Knapp is pleading patience.
Where was Hues another year? he was a ROOKIE HC and was gonna pick his own DC this year.. was gonna move that soft azz HUFF to CB.. hmm what current regime is finally getting around to that? Only our offense is backward 3 years. Ask hue about paitence. NFL = NOT FOR LONG
September 21st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
JT Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hue sucked as a HC, get over it.
We started the year with a new GM, a new HC, a new offensive coach, a new defensive coach, a new system, alternating centers over two weeks, and a relatively new quarterback and you act you like we were supposed to go to the Superbowl but McKenzie screwed it up.
Get a fuk’n brain already or go to your dentist and get a lobotomy.
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Hue sucked? Probably our best offensive playcaller in a while, FYI.
A relative new QB? LOL. Palmer is a veteran my friend, even rookies on other teams are playing better than him!!
Wow… LOL.
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Wow yourself jackazz.
1. Palmer was drafted by Hue off his coach while he was still eating Doritos and was new to us, most importantly to the OL and to the receivers and the system.
2. And I said Hue was a lousy HC, moron. Try and learn how to read, it might help with your comprehension problems.
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You are clearly a IDIOT, but Ill answer you anyways in the language of insults that you choose, being the chaotic moron you are.
1-Palmer after one FULL ofseason, is still rated below than a lot of younger QB’s… YOU said he is still a relatively new quarterback… So you sound like a retard from the Old World my boy.
2. Hue, even as a HC, not a OC as you say (who cares, its the same), is much better playcaller since you were a raider fan ‘bloke’. Thats all the way back to Gruden.
Dont bother answering, Ill kick your ol englan a s s again.
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Sure you will.
You don’t actually say anything in your whiny reply although I did notice another mistake:
“2. Hue, even as a HC, not a OC as you say (who cares, its the same),”
A head coach is not the same as an offensive coordinator.
Again, you should learn how to read it might help with your comprehension although I guess you’ll still be a fuk’n moron,
September 21st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Jackson made a LOT of promises. None of them came true. He said he was going to “build a bully”. Not only did he not, the team was getting PASTED at the end of the season. He said he was going to cut down on penalties. The team ended up being the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN HISTORY. He said we were going to the playoffs. We didn’t. I can go on and on. The league has ruled on Jackson. He is probably getting his nails done right now as we speak.
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SO WHAT! FIRST year head coach with a short preseason, starting QB and NFL leading rusher down. A crappy defense that he could not change or fire the DC. Penalties have plagued the Raiders for years so you can’t put that all on Hue.
Adjustment would have been made and the Raiders would have been on there way to the playoffs this year instead of the complete NONSENSE going on now.
September 21st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Al did make it interesting O.
Hey LMN! You out there?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I’m going to bed.
Go Raiders!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
watched HUES intro presser when he was named HC. Al davis said TOM was a pure ZBS and he did not like that at all. The reason why hue was hired in 2010 is because Al and Hue would draw plays on the white board and he was familar with the POWER, GAP, and Minimal Zone blocks that he used in Baltimore.////////////////////////////// Oh, crap. Al had his eye on a disgruntled ex USC Heisman winning QB when he hired Hue because of Hues’ ties to both the QB and the Bengals. Hue offered little else in Als’ opinion.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2 r8eray: 20-13 Dolphins (35/13)
qodrn: Raiders 24 Pittsburgh 23
September 21st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: Yup what makes it even worse.. Mckenzie when taking the job was under the impression he already had a HC (Hue) it wasnt till he got to the facility for his intro presser that Mark told Reggie he had to fire hue//////////////////////////////WHAT??? Which troll is this?
lol looks like u were not here on last nights blog when i went back and read and watch old clips.
REggie MCKENZIE didn NOT want to FIRE HUE. REggie MCKENZIE was under the impression that he already had a HC when coming to his INTRO PRESSER (HUE) he was under the impression that all he had to do was find a DC. It wasnt till he got to the facility that MARK informed him he had to fire HUE. WOW
MARK DID. THE answer is right here
http://youtu.be/-oryX23CqjM
Ok according to that video and henry woorford.. it was the last game of the season that did HUE in. Especially his post game presser.
Mark Davis met with some of the players after the game and they expressed to him that they didnt like HUE as their head coach. What a f’n joke. Why cuz HUE had balls to call u guys out and he was gonna get rid of the underachievers. I wonder what players Mark Met with. I bet one was Jacoby ford still pissed about the campbell thing. He is also the guy who slipped on the rout for that last PALMER INT
Even CORK said in his chats it was MARK who canned hue but let
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WRONG:
Houshmandzadeh believed Jackson’s postgame comments were a sign of the coach’s devotion to the cause.
“I guess in the world of NFL head coaches, you can’t do that, apparently,” Houshmandzadeh said. “I don’t know, maybe he was emotional because he was invested in it, and in us – because he was two feet in. A lot of coaches would have been politically correct. He put his emotions out there.
“He had a great grasp on the guys. If you weren’t playing well, he would let you know, and say, ‘We need you to play better.’ If you were playing well, he’d let you know. With me seeing Hue for the first time as a head coach – and Carson and I talked about this – I thought, ‘Wow, Hue does a good job of addressing things in meetings that needed to be addressed.’”
“He was probably the offensive MVP of the league at that point,” Seymour said. “You lose him and your quarterback, it’s tough. But I thought Hue did well.
“He was very meticulous in his thought process. In terms of getting the team ready to play, every day he challenged the team to go out and be better than the day before. Even in practice, as a team, I just thought we gave it all we had, every day since training camp.
“I never felt like we had a letdown. He always got his team ready to perform. Obviously, it didn’t show as much on Sundays as we would’ve liked, given our record. But I thought we had the right process.”
“I just know we were prepared,” Houshmandzadeh said. “I thought he did a hell of a job calling plays and putting guys in position to make plays. It’s crazy. I’m shocked. I thought the team had a chance to be really, really good next year.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Hello fellow raider nation.
First timer here. Big time raider fan all the way from VA. I truly believe in the raiders, and I understand why we are all frustated. 10 years of this is hard to deal with, but I am as loyal as they come and will stick by my squad. But it almost feels as if we’re cursed or something. I mean what is going on when we can’t have a winning season in 10 YEARS! I’m just hoping that there’s a plan because losing is getting old.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
“I just know we were prepared,” Houshmandzadeh said. “I thought he did a hell of a job calling plays and putting guys in position to make plays. It’s crazy. I’m shocked. I thought the team had a chance to be really, really good next year.
“I thought the team had a chance to be really, really good next year.’
So did most of Raider Nation Housh
September 21st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Huff is not a playmaker at CB or Safety. How many picks does he have in 7 years? One?
He is too slow . Texas had a defensive system to hide his lack of speed. I was shocked AD picked him despite slow 40 speed.
If Ed Reed is 10 as a DB, Huff is a 3.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
What Overpaid Raider is gonna step up and make a play on SUNDAY?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
303Raider: Raiders 20 Steelers 17
Berman picks us 24-21.
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 24 Steelers 21 Seabass wins it
Klas Tjorborn: Steelers 35 Raiders 24
qodrn: Raiders 24 Pittsburgh 23
RaiderDanny: Steelers 35 Raiders 10
September 21st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
If anything, i’m just hoping for at least a competitive game.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
im just hoping that the game is not over by halftime
September 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
JLofty Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Seymour clearly your reading skills are sub-par. That was called “sarcasm”…
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The fool can’t read. I’ve been saying that all week.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
They have got to pressure Ben, and protect those DB’s. They have to basically whip Bens assz, maybe a turnover, Sunday.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
nblack25 Says:
Hello fellow raider nation.
First timer here. /////////////////Hi , Sullen 1 .
September 21st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Think Al is probably looking down on Marcus, and telling him that no matter what happened between them, “ONCE A RAIDER ALWAYS A RAIDER!”
September 21st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Few corrections:
- England, we won that Cleveland game where Hue should’ve kicked the FG. It wasn’t the right call by him but any fan who’s going to be taken seriously in this debate would at least know the outcome. I don’t recall the other game you’re referring to. I have a vague memory of people getting their panties in a twist over something like. That, but I don’t believe it was nearly as important or clear a call at the time it was made.
- UCLA, Huff has very good speed at the safety position. It’s why they’re possibly going to play him at CB on Sunday. He was also a bigtime playmaker on that Texas Nat Championship team that went undefeated. I believe he was the Thorpe Award winner as the nation’s top DB. And I also think he had 4.4 or so speed.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
No matter how bad things appear to be, been around this franchise for 32 years, so no matter what here goes.
RAIDERS 21 steelers 20 in a squeaker.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Raiderjambo Says: Think Al is probably looking down on Marcus, and telling him that no matter what happened between them, “ONCE A RAIDER ALWAYS A RAIDER!”////////////Like that thought, but more likely Marcus looked up and said the same thing.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
hate reggie, da and krappy…turned raider fans into “hope its not over by halftime” and “hope we’re competitive” too “we will win in three years…”
September 21st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
qodrn1 Says: Raider Prediction Board/////////////////Oh, he11, hope springs eternal. RAIDERS 35 Squeelers 21 .
September 21st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says: hate reggie, da and krappy…turned raider fans into “hope its not over by halftime” and “hope we’re competitive” too “we will win in three years…”//////////////////////Not this one.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Dan78–always a loyal Beeech Boy! The Beeech Dawg can always count on you having my backside. And I have yours too. True party boys stick together. The full PMPP is having a cucumber party at 4:20. We’ll dance to some Mariah with cucumbers in our speedos, front and back, and think off all the ho strippers we’re gonna bang. I will totally be thinking of you Dan-O and I know you’ll be thinking of the Beeech Dawg. My Lawg will be chopping that cucumber in half just for you!
HOLLA! IT’S A BEEECH PARTY NIZZLE
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Weirdest Capt Stubing post ever…
September 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Actually, I heard Jacoby Ford in an interview right after Hue was fired and he was clearly shocked and disappointed. He chose his words somewhat carefully, but you could tell he was pizzed.
That theory about the players wanting Hue out was nothing but a hollow theory. There’s never been anything to back it up.
Mike Silver prob had it right when he said Mark wanted to get rid of most holdovers from the Al days because he was afraid he wouldn’t command their respect. Our top scouting guys, respected guys who had been here for decades were also quietly dismissed after the draft as was John Herrera. I’m not sure if it was exactly how Silver reported it, but alot has happened to back that theory up.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
purvis how will the raiders best the squeelers? I cant see any position where the raiders have an advantage…
September 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
214. Good point. Actually caught an interview of Marcus on satellite TV where he actually spoke very highly of AL, the organisation, and of course THE RAIDER NATION. Actually, bought #32’s jersey back in 1983(?), when we went into Foxboro and played the shi**y Pats, and demolished them. Ah, the good old days, hoping they do return!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Whats the best way to beat teams that pass the ball for 400 yards and 35 points every sunday?
Keep them off the turf with Knapples ground attack, clock controlling, ZBS and a defense that creates turnovers
Thats how
Where do I collect my prize?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says: Al did make it interesting O.//////////////////////No, he didn’t. Al Davis made it the NFL.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
That we love and argue about today.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
cool plunkethead…whats that teams name?
September 21st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Think otherwise and the Nation really doesn’t want or need you.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
But let me speak more plainly.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Fk Of.
September 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
The 2013 Oakland Raiders
September 21st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Win or die mthrfkers!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Qodrn1:
My beloved Raiders: 24
Sex Offenders: 17
CODE BLACK!!!
September 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
2012-2013 raiders….i hope youre right but it wont happen wth the corners they have…
September 21st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says: purvis how will the raiders best the squeelers? I cant see any position where the raiders have an advantage…/////////////////Without homerism? How do I describe our potential offensive advantages with Knapp around like a 800 lb gorilla? I think we do have or did have a more explosive offense than the Steelers. See how difficult it is to quantify with our current offensive scheme? Our defense is not dog meat, either, unless you think Sho’nasty,Houston, Bryant, Kelly, and even Seymour are making Big Ben sleep easy. Yeah, we suck behind that and that may be the game but I bet some people have been staying awake late at night trying to figure out a way to compensate. Whether they do or not is the ?.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Fuk yo couch Big Bengay
Check out this video on YouTube:http://youtu.be/q1PhjFs18MA
September 21st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
http://youtu.be/q1PhjFs18MA
September 21st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
So, I think we do have an advantage offensively. They have better recievers, we have better running backs, I think the QB is a draw, And they’ve been running thesame scheme forever which does give them a decided advantage. But, on any given Sunday, and I just can’t believe DA and Knapp are stupid enough to give them what they’ve seen on tape already. If they do, I will jump on any bandwagon to fire anybody anyone wants to make or I’ll make my own.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Al is the Raiders, I could go on but probably wouldn’t stop until 1:00 pm Sunday and who’s gonna buy my beer?
September 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Sorry, didn’t mean to give my honest opinion.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Steelers 38 – Raiders 3
I want to believe, but there is no fire in anyone’s belly right now. Complacent losing teams never improve. When I stop seeing laughter on the sidelines and focused intensity on the field, then maybe we’ll start seeing better play.
The coaches aren’t even voicing how unacceptable these attitudes and levels of effort are. Not a good sign. If Tom Coughlin was coaching this team, what do you think we would see on the sidelines?
September 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Huff says he’s ready for anything Michael Huff emerged from seclusion long enough Friday to confirm what everyone already knew _ the veteran safety may be playing a lot of cornerback against the Pittsburgh Steelers. [...]
September 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Hey Qodrn…
Raiders 23
Squealers 17
Thanks
September 21st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
beeeech dawg Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Dan78–always a loyal Beeech Boy! The Beeech Dawg can always count on you having my backside. And I have yours too. True party boys stick together. The full PMPP is having a cucumber party at 4:20. We’ll dance to some Mariah with cucumbers in our speedos, front and back, and think off all the ho strippers we’re gonna bang. I will totally be thinking of you Dan-O and I know you’ll be thinking of the Beeech Dawg. My Lawg will be chopping that cucumber in half just for you!
HOLLA! IT’S A BEEECH PARTY NIZZLE <———– take your moronic baboon babble and go play in the jungle…nobody reads your garbage! RAP SUCKS= Retards Attemping Poetry ~ FANG RULES
September 21st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Actually, I heard Jacoby Ford in an interview right after Hue was fired and he was clearly shocked and disappointed. He chose his words somewhat carefully, but you could tell he was pizzed.
That theory about the players wanting Hue out was nothing but a hollow theory. There’s never been anything to back it up.
Mike Silver prob had it right when he said Mark wanted to get rid of most holdovers from the Al days because he was afraid he wouldn’t command their respect. Our top scouting guys, respected guys who had been here for decades were also quietly dismissed after the draft as was John Herrera. I’m not sure if it was exactly how Silver reported it, but alot has happened to back that theory up.
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Exactly. He wanted to get that perception that it was his team….put his initials on it. As I remember the story, Hue Jackson related an incident where Davis cussed out Mark when he suggested selecting a dominant WR over JaMarcus Russell – really embarrassing. It was a very bad situation, and he wanted to distance himself from that whole regime (hence the cleaning house of Chet Franklin, Mike Taylor and Herrera, etc.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Honestly i still dont know to much about allen. Really know know how good he will be or if he will at all.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
I just want him ready for a pass.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Hello Qodrn1, Im goin with Raiders 23,and Franco 17.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RaiderSam Says: Mike Silver prob had it right when he said Mark wanted to get rid of most holdovers from the Al days because he was afraid he wouldn’t command their respect.////////////////////////Mike Silver is and always has been an anti Al anti Raider quasi blog journalist and has never gotten anything right.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Where are you people coming from quoting Mike Yahoo Silver and Monte Poo? Did bleccher report go off line or what? By the way, I did the google legwork so you can get your latest Raider news with OUT bleccher report. Just bookmark it and adjust the time frame to suit your needs. It’s set at last 24 hrs. http://www.google.com/search?q=oakland+raiders+-Bleacher&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1024&bih=626&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=LyEKULrnJ4WnrQGt06XJCg&ved=0CCEQpwUoAg Enjoy.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Hue Jackson related an incident where Davis cussed out Mark when he suggested selecting a dominant WR over JaMarcus Russell – really embarrassing.//////////////////No, he did not and when asked said it never happened and he had no idea why Mike Yahoo Silver ever wrote it. Absolute crap revisionist history.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Stanford Routt @SRoutt26
Another day, another dollar..
September 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
purvis stepped away for a sec but…dmc is better but nullified by the scheme….
September 21st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
This thought that Mark hated Al and wants to remove all everything Al is b.s.
After we beat Houston the guy was over the top emotional and visibly crying.
Didn’t appear as a disgruntled daddy hater to me.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
I’m ok with giving knapp some time to get this right. We dont have any choice.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Just fckn win on sunday. Alot of this would be done with if u just win
September 21st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
our deal is, we’ve got NFL football players and we got to go out and play at a certain level and we hold all our guys accountable at the same level,” Allen said, talking about the cornerback play./////// We all saw that in miami, didn’t we? Barely starter level players playing at an NFL level. Oh, wait, that was their rookie QB and wide receiver wasn’t it?
September 21st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
purvis stepped away for a sec but…dmc is better but nullified by the scheme….
////////////////Say what/ I’m here.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
couldnt even stop Brian hartline lol.. how u gonna stop Mike Wallace, Antonio brown.. probowl guys.
Raiders better come ready to play cuz if they dont they are F’d
September 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
It’s going to go one of two ways. A close, knuckling dragging type of game or a huge blowout by the Steelers.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Few corrections:
- England, we won that Cleveland game where Hue should’ve kicked the FG. It wasn’t the right call by him but any fan who’s going to be taken seriously in this debate would at least know the outcome. I don’t recall the other game you’re referring to. I have a vague memory of people getting their panties in a twist over something like. That, but I don’t believe it was nearly as important or clear a call at the time it was made.
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Chris, he was referring to the decision not to go for two against the Lions.
Raids had just scored a TD on TK’s strip/sack of Stafford which Curry recovered and scored on.
The TD put the Raids up by 12 with about 5 and a half mins to go. Hue elected to kick the XP and go up by 13 rather than attempting to go for 2 and possibly be up by 14.
IMO, clearly a MISTAKE.
With 5:30 to go, Hue should have realized Detroit is thinking in terms of a two posession game. If the clock is properly managed, there just is NOT enough time for the Lions to think in terms of a 3 posession game in which they score a TD and two FG’s to tie or win.
The Lion’s only real hope at that point is to score TWO TD’s.
Therefore, there’s a pretty big difference between being up by 13 or 14.
Hue chose to go up by 13, when he should have tried to go up by 14.
Had the Raids converted the 2 pt conversion, what turned out to be Detroit’s game winning TD with less than a minute to go would have only TIED the game.
Even if the 2 pt attempt failed, Detroit’s last minute TD only puts them up by two and Jani still could have won it with last second FG.
Clearly a poor decision not to go for 2 in that situation. Hue was even given extra time to think it over due to Curry getting flagged for excessive celebration for punching the goal post.
Not as horrible as foregoing the chip shot FG to ice the Cleveland game, but still a tactical error.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider8 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
This thought that Mark hated Al and wants to remove all everything Al is b.s.
After we beat Houston the guy was over the top emotional and visibly crying.
Didn’t appear as a disgruntled daddy hater to me////////////////////////All crap from the Al Davis Haters Demographic (ADHD for those members too twitchy to catch on)spouted by the likes of Kawakami, Silver, and Poo poole.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
morilla Says: It’s going to go one of two ways. A close, knuckling dragging type of game or a huge blowout by the Steelers./////////////Why not the other way? What is wrong with this generation of the Nation?
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I always thought his behavior at the Houston game was suspect. He seemed to be playing it up and it didn’t feel genuine to me. Seemed like crocodile tears. But that could just be me.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
morilla Says: It’s going to go one of two ways. A close, knuckling dragging type of game or a huge blowout by the Steelers./////////////Why not the other way? What is wrong with this generation of the Nation?
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what have u seen so far that proves, why not the other way?? nothing. Thats what were goin on. U think they are all of a sudden gonna turn it on against the steelers?
September 21st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
morilla Says: It’s going to go one of two ways. A close, knuckling dragging type of game or a huge blowout by the Steelers./////////////Why not the other way? What is wrong with this generation of the Nation?
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This generation? I’ve been around the block going back to the 70s.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I always thought his behavior at the Houston game was suspect. He seemed to be playing it up and it didn’t feel genuine to me. Seemed like crocodile tears. But that could just be me
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Why would he fake that? I don’t know what benefit it would serve.
Seemed genuine to me.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I always thought his behavior at the Houston game was suspect. He seemed to be playing it up and it didn’t feel genuine to me. Seemed like crocodile tears. But that could just be me.///////////////who? Hue?
September 21st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
You guys see the Raids getting slammed on the NFLN’s AFC Playbook show ?
First they show 4 Raiders missing tackles and being on the ground on one TD run.
Then they show the long Bush TD.
Sharpe comments by asking if Slo ever gets his reads right.
Baldinger comments that 55 is too Slo.
Oooof.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Hue showed emotion period. He wanted to win period. Did you see after the chiefs game in OT?? The man showed emotion and knew what it meant to play Raider football. Last guy who didn that in the past decade was GRUDEN. Allen hasnt even come close to winning one game.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Hue did alot and accomplished alot for being a ROOKIE HC.. some stuff rookie coaches never do and are fired.
Allen still has to show if he can win two games in a row.. still has to show how he plays in an OT game.. has to show how hard players are gonna play for him. Has to show if he can make game time adjustments.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Raiders 28
Steelers 21
You know thats right!
September 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I always thought his behavior at the Houston game was suspect. He seemed to be playing it up and it didn’t feel genuine to me. Seemed like crocodile tears. But that could just be me.///////////////who? Hue?
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Yeah, that was towards Hue. Just the vibe I got from it.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: what have u seen so far that proves, why not the other way?? nothing. Thats what were goin on. U think they are all of a sudden gonna turn it on against the steelers?//////////////////////////I’ve seen nothing, NOTHING, so far to make me think they are going to suddenly turn it on. I have been watching since 1979 and know that they can suck and suddenly turn it on. They lost 3 games, actually got shut out 3 games in a row mid season and came back and as a wild card won the fvcking superbowl.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
This is that pivotal game for them. To me, next week is going to be a tougher opponent. Going into week 4 at 0-3 could force this team into a tail spin. But hey, let’s see what happens. I’ll still be there on Sundays like church.
September 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I know that was old time football back when we played it in black and white and were BBQ’ing T’rex in the tail gate but seriously why do young members of the Nation become members of the Nation? The colors? The gang thing which really sucks? How do you become a member of the Nation in, say y2k and say you love the Raiders but Al Davis must go? How does that happen with anyone but a wannabe?
September 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I always thought his behavior at the Houston game was suspect. He seemed to be playing it up and it didn’t feel genuine to me. Seemed like crocodile tears. But that could just be me.///////////////who? Hue?
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Yeah, that was towards Hue. Just the vibe I got from it.
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I was referring to Mark. In regard to guys suggesting he hated his father.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
…or should I say the ‘freakish, red headed spawn’.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Wow, I put that one out there. And I’m sticking with it.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
DJ Johnny Says: …or should I say the ‘freakish, red headed spawn’.///////////////////////Sorry, but I do find that line funny,also.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I don’t know Purvis. I guess if you’re from te bay area u grow up a fan of Raiders or niners right?
Out here there’s alot of young Bears fans..and they hate the McCaskey family.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
DJ Johnny Says: …or should I say the ‘freakish, red headed spawn’.///////////////////////Sorry, but I do find that line funny,also.
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Ha…i know..it really is.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I don’t know Purvis. I guess if you’re from te bay area u grow up a fan of Raiders or niners right?
Out here there’s alot of young Bears fans..and they hate the McCaskey family.
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That’s how I was baptized. Bay area and father was a Raider fan from the inception. I came came put with A Raider onzie and Budweiser booties. I swear, I have photos.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
…what’s funnier is he’s not even trying to be funny when he calls him that. Ha.
He added “clown” to the mix the other night. I think he called him the “clownish, red headed, freakish spawn”.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
morilla Says: That’s how I was baptized. Bay area and father was a Raider fan from the inception. I came came put with A Raider onzie and Budweiser booties. I swear, I have photos.////////I want to see them.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
That’s how I was baptized. Bay area and father was a Raider fan from the inception. I came came put with A Raider onzie and Budweiser booties. I swear, I have photos.
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Then it’s in your DNA. You couldn’t put on a niner jersey is you were paid large amounts of $$$ i’m guessing.
Just like I could no easier shoot my mother in the back then not root for the Raiders…no matter how bad they are.
Am i ticked off, disappointed ? Yep. But there i’ll be this Sunday just like I always am.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I always thought his behavior at the Houston game was suspect. He seemed to be playing it up and it didn’t feel genuine to me. Seemed like crocodile tears. But that could just be me
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Why would he fake that? I don’t know what benefit it would serve.
Seemed genuine to me.
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I too, had my doubts about how genuine the tears in the lockerroom after the game were.
Hue might have been playing it up somewhat for the cameras at that moment.
Even if the tears and the ‘I loved that man’ comment weren’t truly heartfelt, it was the right sentiment to display.
Bash Hue all you want, but at least he always said the right things.
I’m a Davis loyalist so I always appreciated the respect Hue showed for Al. Got a kick out of the way he called Al ‘coach’. Admired the way he talked about the Raider tradition.
Hue was definitely a salesman. Maybe even a bit of a con artist.
Who cares ?
While he might have been too intersted in self promotion, he certainly couldn’t be accused of not being a good Raider.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
morilla Says: That’s how I was baptized. Bay area and father was a Raider fan from the inception. I came came put with A Raider onzie and Budweiser booties. I swear, I have photos.////////I want to see them.
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I think I posted them a couple years ago. I’ve learned since then to steer clear of posting personal stuff.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
DJ Johnny Says: …or should I say the ‘freakish, red headed spawn’.///////////////////////Sorry, but I do find that line funny,also.
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Raidersone is a good guy. I didn’t know who he was at first.
He is NOT a huge fan of the Davis family.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Like it or not Bears have Halas, GB has Lombardi, we have Al Davis.
Best to embrace it.
Raiders wouldn’t be the Raiders if not for him.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I’m old and didn’t even care about football or any sports until the late seventies. Playing guitar in a band and towards my late twenties started gambling and noticed that the Steelers and Raiders kept knocking my QB’s out. I (sacrlage, I know) became a fan of both and really wanted to see Terry get that thumb ring. Then I got nto the football aside from betting and couldn’t help but veer toward the Raider way. Became a full on fan long before they even thought about moving to LA and along with my football mentor(RIP) thought the idea of Oakland not being Oakland was beyond the pale. However, they were moving to within 45 minutes of my house and I said gimmee some season tickets. Anyway, thats how and when I became a fan and here I still am. Lots more stories you don’t want to hear about. Like parking on Budlong st.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
SHIZZLE
missus b is constipated. all them cucumbers sound pretty good but thinkin bout cucumbers make me think of my ex but i could use uno for a plug oh my
u kno I’m on a duece strike til the raids win one
FASHIZZLE HOLLA HOW I ROLL
September 21st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
Like it or not Bears have Halas, GB has Lombardi, we have Al Davis.
Best to embrace it.
Raiders wouldn’t be the Raiders if not for him./////////////NFL wouldn’t be the NFL without all of them.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Man all i know us Raiders fan deserve a Winning team. Like week 1 that muthfn place was sold out packed.. and another let down.
When we get back on top.. trust me, its gonna make it all worth it. No better fan base.. I hope Allen is game and knows what he is in for ..the NFL is not for sheep.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
292,
Trueness. I’m not liking Allen yet.
When/if he starts winning football games…i will reconsider.
But.. he has my support since he IS the coach.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Like it or not Bears have Halas, GB has Lombardi, we have Al Davis.
Best to embrace it.
Raiders wouldn’t be the Raiders if not for him.
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Yup. Al built the Raiders and gave the team it’s image, personality and mystique.
Never gonna be the same without the old man.
I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, but I like the idea of having a brilliant football man micro-managing a team and acting more or less like a tyrant.
There’s no doubt who is in charge and where the buck stops.
With the right man in charge, great things can happen.
Problem is, even the best football man eventually loses his fastball.
The consequences can be disastrous.
That’s pretty much what happened to the Raids.
Mark (aka ‘the spawn’) could never hope to fill his father’s shoes. That’s understandable and acceptable.
But I get the feeling he’s really not interested in the day to day football operations at all. Raids are probably just a business to him.
Sure, he wants to win, but it’s not an all encompassing obsession like it was for Dad.
I still love the Raids but it ain’t the same without AD.
RIP.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Honestly Palmer is alright. But the Raiders wont be good till the get a young or Solid vet qb to fit this system. Someone like gannon. Mobile. Its funny but I thought both seattle qb’s would be perfect in this system. Russell wilson or Flynn.
September 21st, 2012 at 9:56 pm
295 – It will never be the same.. and it sucks but nothing we can do. Even last year after he passed it wasnt the same.
No matter what AL Davis 4 life! He is the Raiders.
Just win baby! Coaches will come and go, Players will come an go. One thing will remain. That RAIDER SHIELD!!! n AL’s legacy!!
September 21st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Like it or not Bears have Halas, GB has Lombardi, we have Al Davis.
Best to embrace it.
Raiders wouldn’t be the Raiders if not for him.
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Yup. Al built the Raiders and gave the team it’s image, personality and mystique.
Never gonna be the same without the old man.
I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, but I like the idea of having a brilliant football man micro-managing a team and acting more or less like a tyrant.
There’s no doubt who is in charge and where the buck stops.
With the right man in charge, great things can happen.
Problem is, even the best football man eventually loses his fastball.
The consequences can be disastrous.
That’s pretty much what happened to the Raids.
Mark (aka ‘the spawn’) could never hope to fill his father’s shoes. That’s understandable and acceptable.
But I get the feeling he’s really not interested in the day to day football operations at all. Raids are probably just a business to him.
Sure, he wants to win, but it’s not an all encompassing obsession like it was for Dad.
I still love the Raids but it ain’t the same without AD.
RIP.
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Best Post I’ve read in weeks…although I don’t agree with every word…
I think Mark is gonna surprise us…but choose to play it safe hiring Reggie….
I don’t see the Reggie thing working out….
September 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
When Reggie fails, the blame will fall on Madden and Wolf….
September 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
“Freakish Spawn”!!!
The Mark Davis Story!
Tonight on ScyFy. “Imagine Greater”.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Guys i really felt like HUE was the right man for the job.. even with Mckenzie as GM.. there was something about hue.
He had that fuel and desire to win which is why he took chances. He gambled big sometimes paid off ..sometimes didnt but damn he tried.
I said the NFL isnt for sheep. You cant play it safe and conservative. NFL is for sharks and damn HUE was gonna be one IMO. Hue had similar qualities to GRUDEN
Im really having a hard time getting on this Allen/ KNAPP train
September 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
I still love the Raids but it ain’t the same without AD.
RIP.////////Amen.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
#300,
I am rooting for them but I think DA is making a mistake. That could change if Raiders all of a sudden go on a 3 game win streak starting Sunday.
How cool would it be if this offense all of a sudden DID come together Sunday..and on thru ATL game.
They aren’t even bothering to act like we are gonna win anytime soon.
You’d hope to hear “This offense is gonna breakthru…we are ready for Pittsburgh”. No. U don’t even hear anything from the players that suggests THEY even think they have a shot.
At least throw us a bone instead of telling us to “be patient”. Geez.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Wow, training camp, pre-season and two regular games and we look like we might be ready for the start of pre season.
I hated the Hue firing, he deserved another year. Saunders shoulda been named the OC. He understands players better than schemes.
I don’t buy into this we’re building for the future. If we were, Pryor would be in there. Since we got Palmer, lets game plan to his strengths while we got him and do a really good job of groomong Pryor.
We were on the doorstep last year. What the fck happened. We just got kicked back to the curb. Weird.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
*grooming. Thats building for the future.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I’d like to see the Oakland media have some b*allz and ask DA at the next presser:
“Coach Allen, how do you justify the coaches request to the fans to be patient when the team already had a top 10 offense before you arrived”?
What is Allen gonna do…punch you?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Im really having a hard time getting on this Allen/ KNAPP train
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Understandable.
Knapp is garbage.
If he was a train, he’d be ‘the little engine that could NOT’.
He’s a train wreck.
He’s ‘derailed’ the Raider O.
And since he’s DA’s selection, why should we have any faith in DA ?
A bunch of wins could have me whistling a different tune, but as of right now I’m not buying into what Allen is selling.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:33 pm
What’s funny is DA doesn’t appear to even be selling anything? He’s just defiantly telling us how it’s gonna go down…win or lose cuz he’s “seen it done before”.
“Coach Knapp, you keep referring to Houston and how you trying to institute that offense here in Oakland when the offense you inherited here was # 9 in the league, even w/o Darren McFadden for most of the year, and Houston was # 13. What do you say to the fans who have trouble being patient …knowing this to be a fact”?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Reggie and DA have it in their minds that come hell or high water the Raiders will run the ZBS. That is where they think the future lies and that is what they are sticking with until they get it correct.
Of course they don’t seem to understand they and their new scheme has a limited shelf life and could soon be out on their ear when there are 30,000 empty coliseum seats every Sunday.
That is why they hired Knapp since he will do their bidding no questions asked.
Fire Mark and Mother!
September 21st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Hi Everybody.
I’m a big Raider fan. Yes I am.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
When Reggie fails, the blame will fall on Madden and Wolf….
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If the freakish, red-haired spawn hired Reggie based on Madden’s recommendation, then he is an idiot. Madden has been out of the game for 30 yrs and is an old man; and we had a decade of AD(BFH) to demonstrate failed business acumen of old men.
Madden means nothing to me: he gave the Raiders a bum steer.
Now we can’t get rid of Reggie; he is just too big and ugly and probably scares the p.ss out of the spawn.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Oakglen Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Hi Everybody.
I’m a big Raider fan. Yes I am.
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And so??? You will masturbate in the corner over that ?
September 21st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Scenes we’d like to see:
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o525/JB6427/greg-knapp_zps28b46806.jpg
September 21st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Just can’t understand the reverence this staff has for the Houston offense.
Sure, it’s effective but they’ve got a solid Oline, Foster, Johnson, Schaub and other weapons. They should be able to score.
They’ll put up points, but it’s not like they’re some sort of awesome scoring machine.
What’s so great about their scheme that we’d want to emulate it ?
What’s this fkng fascination with the Texan offense ?
This staff talks about the Texan offense like it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Ridiculous.
September 21st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
First time blogger in here. What a great site. I agree with everyone in here. It’s just fcking bad the new regime went and got rid of huejax when the raiders were so damn close. All we really needed were a few muthafckng tweaks like a new DC and a cornerback and we woulda been good to effin go. What a nonchalant mess of cokschit. Be patient yeah right dumbass. Been fckng patient for how damn long? This ZBS WCO is hot garbage. Period. Fckng period. Anybody who thinks different is just a nut sack clinging apologist. If Mr Davis were still with us he’d roast the assbites responsible for this. Is we don’t get our asses handed to us Sunday, it will be a small miracle. Where is Gruden when we need him. Mark shoulda consulted him and Reggie shoulda hired him. Shoulda kept Huejax. Should be effin 2-0. SMMFHFNFR.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Lol.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Yeah let’s be like Houston or Green Bay. What’s wrong with picking up from where we left off last year? Oh wait. Don’t answer that.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Worst move of the new order: letting Bush walk.
Next: firing Huejax
No category for this stupidity: ZBS
Action: hot garbage. Reaction: 0-2
September 21st, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Mark Davis should have brought in Jon Gruden as director of football operations. I know Gruden was opened to the idea when asked a few yrs back, but he said it had to be the right situation.
If I was Marky that would have been the first guy I would have turned to. I would have offered him as much as it took. Almost a Jim Harbaugh type offer. Say what you want about GRUDEN but he knew what being a Raider was all about.and he cared about this Fan base.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Mark Davis should have brought in Jon Gruden as director of football operations. I know Gruden was opened to the idea when asked a few yrs back, but he said it had to be the right situation.
If I was Marky that would have been the first guy I would have turned to. I would have offered him as much as it took. Almost a Jim Harbaugh type offer. Say what you want about GRUDEN but he knew what being a Raider was all about.and he cared about this Fan base.
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Freaky spawn should have brought in Gruden as GM and Rich Gannon as HC.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Just can’t understand the reverence this staff has for the Houston offense.
Sure, it’s effective but they’ve got a solid Oline, Foster, Johnson, Schaub and other weapons. They should be able to score.
They’ll put up points, but it’s not like they’re some sort of awesome scoring machine.
What’s so great about their scheme that we’d want to emulate it ?
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Well that’s a good question. Let’s go figure that out.
First and foremost Houston was the second best rushing team in the league last year. The only team better was Dungver and that was because Teblows ran for hundreds of yards. Otherwise Houston would have been number one. There is an old expression in football; if you can run, you can pass. And in a passing league, that might be important.
So, this is a proven system, and we have the best back in the league. Why is it not working?
THAT, is an even better question. The thing about the zone system is you can theoretically put ANY back in there and they should flourish. Historically lst in Denver with Terrell Davis and then Ryan Grant and Arian Foster. For your guys information, Terrell Davis was a 6th round pick. He was a 3 time pro bowler and 3 time lst team All Pro. As a 6th rounder. Arian Foster is a two time pro bowler and l time All Pro. As an UNDRAFTED player. Same with Ryan Grant in Green Bay. Dude did a solid job. As an undrafted player.
So, what is happening? Well, we have the best running back in the league and he can’t do sh**. Now, honestly, his blocking has not been the best. But, we have the best running back in the league and HE HASN’T DONE SH**! You guys talk accountability? Let’s start there.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Gannon, as a condition of his hiring, should have taken off on the offense where it was left last season, only to improve and focus that offense.
Michael Bush should have been retained.
Substantial efforts for the season should have been made to redo the defense, including firing of Seymour, Kelly, McClain, Routt, Branch, etc: any check casher with a bloated salary should have been cut.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Honestly i think Allen underestimated this fan base, this media market and how outspoken / vocal we were gonna be. I know him / knapp are feelin the heat already. This guy never knew that the Raider Nation was about. We are not gonna put up with this patience crap.
I think this guy thought we were all gonna sit back and let him try his little zbs crap…but little did he know we have done that with another young guy by the name of LANCE KIFFIN. We have tried that with Tommy cable b4 HUE was brought in to fix this mess.
Allen , we are not gonna wait for this and u may think the ZBS will work, but who are u f’n try to convince? the fans or urself?
September 21st, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: what have u seen so far that proves, why not the other way?? nothing. Thats what were goin on. U think they are all of a sudden gonna turn it on against the steelers?//////////////////////////I’ve seen nothing, NOTHING, so far to make me think they are going to suddenly turn it on. I have been watching since 1979 and know that they can suck and suddenly turn it on. They lost 3 games, actually got shut out 3 games in a row mid season and came back and as a wild card won the fvcking superbowl. — GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT…those shutouts were in 1981…the year AFTER they won the superbowl genius! ~FANG IS NEVER WRONG
September 21st, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Raiderman99,
I agree with you mainly. However, we don’t have the best RB in the league in Bush: Peterson is #1, Foster is #2. DMAC is in the top 10. He, IMO, ranks below Frank Gore.
Because DMAC is not the best in the league doesn’t mean he can’t gain at least 1200 yds on the ground and 400 in the air.
We screwed him up. If he was smart he would request to be traded.
I think that the Raiders have dug a 3 yr hole for themselves which will not end until Reggie, DA, and Knapp are fired.
Actually the first two firings should be Mark and his Mother, to eliminate all Davis management from the club.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Honestly i think Allen underestimated this fan base, this media market and how outspoken / vocal we were gonna be.
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The national media has also deemed Raider fan to be a complete dummass. Maybe all that Chinese makeup that is lead based, has gone to some “fans” brains.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Someone posted the stat in here the other day. What was it, 7 teams run the ZBS exclusively? I’ll have to go back and check that. And if I remember correctly those teams weren’t known as dominate run teams. Minus the Texans, I think they were #2 on the list. Hence the big boner with the OC.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:35 pm
…as soon as Bergstrom is the RT and we have AN ALL WHITE OL the running game will work! ~FANG RULES
September 21st, 2012 at 11:35 pm
aidersOne Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Raiderman99,
I agree with you mainly. However, we don’t have the best RB in the league in Bush:
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Bush is not on the team anymore. McFadden is. See post #325 for dummass Raider fan comments.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:36 pm
exactly. Allen really f’d himself by trying to tinker with this offense.
They are trying to do it there way and go from anything we have had before. Thats only gonna lead to backwards things. Allen is gonna be LUCKY to win 10 games in 2 seasons here. Watch
September 21st, 2012 at 11:37 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Someone posted the stat in here the other day. What was it, 7 teams run the ZBS exclusively? I’ll have to go back and check that. And if I remember correctly those teams weren’t known as dominate run teams. Minus the Texans, I think they were #2 on the list. Hence the big boner with the OC.
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Dungver runs a zone system. And they are #1. So, at the very least the zone systems are number one and two in the league. And that’s with basically scrubs running it.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:37 pm
National media is already picking up what these Raider fans are saying.
Big step backwards after hue. Yahoo ran with a big story too. I dont care if Silver wrote it. he is right. Some fans just think Mckenzie/ Allen are gonna do no wrong.
50/50 chance it works out.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Fangsraiders,
Okay my lad, I have been a fan since 67′ and have seen a thing or two over the years.
All those times the Raiders turned it on after 3 or 4 consecutive loses, the club was loaded with talent and playmakers, who merely hit a slump and pulled out of it.
This club lacks talent and has literally no playmakers, so to think they will just “turn it on” is to not accept reality.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Monte poole / Rod woodson/ Lo neal/ Romo / PAPA all questioning this offense right now.
Cork said in the chat he still doesnt know if mckenzie is the right man for the job.. or he was just hiring friends on board
September 21st, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Seymour Bush:
Bush is not on the team anymore. McFadden is. See post #325 for dummass Raider fan comments.
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Yeah I know Bush is with Chicago. It was a typo and should have read, “I agree with you mainly. However, we don’t have the best RB in the league in DMAC:”
September 21st, 2012 at 11:45 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
They aren’t even bothering to act like we are gonna win anytime soon.
You’d hope to hear “This offense is gonna breakthru…we are ready for Pittsburgh”. No. U don’t even hear anything from the players that suggests THEY even think they have a shot.
At least throw us a bone instead of telling us to “be patient”. Geez.///////////////////////Last year some reporter was monitoring Dmacs twitter and thought he seemed completely uninvolved and not caring and I along with many in here took it to heart and wanted Bush to start and then he had that thumb thing and couldn’t and Dmac came out and kicked yours and theirs and my’s and everybody’s a$$ so I would’t get to caught up in what you perceive as their motivation or gung hoedness.
September 21st, 2012 at 11:48 pm
about 40 hrs till we find out if the Raiders week of practice paid off.
see what they got cookin for this steeler team
September 21st, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Monte poole / Rod woodson/ Lo neal/ Romo / PAPA all questioning this offense right now.
Cork said in the chat he still doesnt know if mckenzie is the right man for the job.. or he was just hiring friends on board
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September 21st, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Just pulled the van over at a 7-11 while on our way to SD, nerds. Pounded a taquito and a banana slurpee while sporting my freshly cut-off jean shorts. Local hussies were flocking but wouldn’t give them play. Instead, i slammed some PBR with a couple young dudes hanging out in front. I offered them a doob in the van and once we got wasted, I asked them id they wanted to be in my boy band. They were wasted so it was on. Out came the cucumbers. I hardly remember what happened but one was sticking out of each of our tailpipes, if you know what I mean. Totally a pimp party, cuz we made fun of the chics we wouldn’t let in the van.
KEEPING IT REAL IN SD! SHIZZLE!
September 21st, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:35 pm
…as soon as Bergstrom is the RT and we have AN ALL WHITE OL the running game will work! ~FANG RULES
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You sound like a partier. Bet you like to slap around minions like me. I bet we could totally hang out with strippers and crotchless jock straps. Totally not gay. Just underwater stuff.
NIZZLE!
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 am
[...] do like the Raiders’ decision to have Michael Huff practice at cornerback. The Raiders undoubtedly have more depth at safety, with Matt Giordano and Mike Mitchell on the [...]
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:10 am
That’s it huh? Thanx trolls.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 am
We win this by playing better football than they do.
They are the Steelers .Oh my god we are going to be slaughtered. Don’t want you losers on my team. It’s a game. A game we can win easily. WTF is wrong with you people?
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 am
Fan base and trolls gave up. That’s not a good sign. Hopefully, the collective wisdom is idiocy. I think it is.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:04 am
You all gave up. Hah.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:04 am
“I think we have a pretty good plan for what we’re going to do and how we’re going to attack that position so we’ll be ready on Sunday come anything that comes our way’’
-Coach Dennis Allen
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Raiders 27
Squeelers 24
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/21/marcus-allen-will-light-the-al-davis-flame-on-sunday/
wow!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:30 am
Seymour Bush Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Just can’t understand the reverence this staff has for the Houston offense.
Sure, it’s effective but they’ve got a solid Oline, Foster, Johnson, Schaub and other weapons. They should be able to score.
They’ll put up points, but it’s not like they’re some sort of awesome scoring machine.
What’s so great about their scheme that we’d want to emulate it ?
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Well that’s a good question. Let’s go figure that out.
First and foremost Houston was the second best rushing team in the league last year. The only team better was Dungver and that was because Teblows ran for hundreds of yards. Otherwise Houston would have been number one. There is an old expression in football; if you can run, you can pass. And in a passing league, that might be important.
So, this is a proven system, and we have the best back in the league. Why is it not working?
THAT, is an even better question. The thing about the zone system is you can theoretically put ANY back in there and they should flourish. Historically lst in Denver with Terrell Davis and then Ryan Grant and Arian Foster. For your guys information, Terrell Davis was a 6th round pick. He was a 3 time pro bowler and 3 time lst team All Pro. As a 6th rounder. Arian Foster is a two time pro bowler and l time All Pro. As an UNDRAFTED player. Same with Ryan Grant in Green Bay. Dude did a solid job. As an undrafted player.
So, what is happening? Well, we have the best running back in the league and he can’t do sh**. Now, honestly, his blocking has not been the best. But, we have the best running back in the league and HE HASN’T DONE SH**! You guys talk accountability? Let’s start there.
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I couldn’t care less about Houston having the 2nd ranked rushing attack.
Like I said before, they’re not exactly a scoring machine – despite having Foster, Johnson, Schaub and a host of other weapons.
Bottom line is, how is the ZBS working for the Raids rushing attack and are we scoring points ?
The answer is we can’t run the ball and we aren’t scoring.
And if you think that’s DMAC’s fault, you’re nuts.
Krapp asks for patience to get this sorted out. My response is we shouldn’t be expected to have to wait for his system to start to work. His job was to have the system working week 1. He had the entire off season and entire pre-season to get that accomplished.
Epic Fail.
Even if his system starts to work, (which is extremely doubtful) by that time the 2012 season will likely be toast. It already might be.
Excuses are for losers. Asking for patience means you’re not getting it done when you should be getting it done.
All of a sudden (since going exclusively ZBS) what had been a vibrant running game sucks ? All of a sudden a decent Oline becomes horrid ? All of a sudden, arguably the best back in the NFL, is a scrub averaging 2 YPC ?
The contention that DMAC is the problem is flat out absurd.
Sorry.
The problem is mainly Knapp.
He should be held accountable.
And if he can’t get this mess straightened out in a hurry, he should be fired.
No points = No wins = Knapp unemployed.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:36 am
I cant sleeeeep.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:37 am
Knapp was only playcaller for 4 games during his last 2-year tenure here under Kiffin/Cable
Remember?
It took Tom Cable twice as long to see what we’re seeing!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:38 am
Knapp taking credit for anything done in Houston is laughable. He washed jock straps in Houston.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 am
Watching top 10 collapses on NFL network…1995 raiders are number 10 and the 1986 team is number 7.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:49 am
are we being generous, Dakota?
Knapp is a QB Coach, like Hue Jackson
nothing more
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:51 am
Hue Jax did for Joe Flacco the same thing Knapp did for Matt Schaub … NADA!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 am
Huff is finally ready? Hey, it Only took him about 7 years! Congrats huff…hey, nice angle you took against bush last week! Fking pin head.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 am
Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 am
Watching top 10 collapses on NFL network…1995 raiders are number 10 and the 1986 team is number 7.
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Klas remembers 86 team all too well. That was beginning of Al’s hate for Marcus.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:16 am
So I’m watching AFC Playbook on the NFLN.
They decide to take a look at Bush’s long TD run.
They key in on Slo.
Sharpe asks, ‘Does he EVER get his reads right ?’
Baldinger pretty much ignores the question but does say, ‘He’s too Slo.’
Ooooooof.
Wakey Wakey, JFB.
Rise and shine, Mr. Slomaniac.
Time to defend your boy from these horrific attacks.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:17 am
1986 Raiders team was the beginning of the end. Our slide into crap fest began the day Marcus fumbled against Randal Cunningham’s Eagles in OT.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:42 am
Has anyone noticed that teams improve after Knap leaves?
Teams pay him close to half a million a year for laying a great foundation to build on.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
Has anyone noticed that teams improve after Knap leaves?
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Addition by subtraction.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 am
Napp better score sum home run plays this game or else he is on the hot seat btw they better win to I bet a co-worker raiders beat stealers 500 bucks after I heard addam shefter pick the raiders I duno wat u guys think
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:38 am
I was justthinking no body expects us to win so we will lol man I hope I’m right
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:44 am
Hue Jackson:
“When I think back on it, I think I’m being blamed, and have been blamed, for [all of that],” Jackson said. “What gets me is, I know [Bengals owner] Mike Brown and I know Carson Palmer, but I didn’t make the trade. That decision came from above. It involved draft picks and money. But it wasn’t my call.
“I’m tired of people saying that I’m power hungry, that I’m a blowhard, that I’m saying all the wrong things. I never said I wanted to be the general manager. I said I wanted input. What coach wouldn’t want some input in the direction of the organization?
“When I said I wanted to play a greater role, what I meant by that was, I’m going to get a defensive coordinator that I want. I’m going to get the staff members that I want. And the players that weren’t playing well aren’t gonna be here.
“Before, I didn’t have a chance in all of those things. Everybody knows my hands were tied – I worked for Al Davis. He ran the defense, always had. It’s part of the job.”
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That soundbite is exactly why Hue was fired here, been fired many other times, and now is in the bottom-of-the-barrel amongst position coaches.
Not the context of the quote or even what he said.
23, COUNT THEM, 23 “I’s” in a 45 second soundbite.
Unbelievable.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/21/marcus-allen-will-light-the-al-davis-flame-on-sunday/
wow!!
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Fvck Allen, he’s a chief.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 am
Slo was concussed, making the Slo-Mania world tour having to cancel a date or two.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
So, do you think some hardcore AD loyalists will boo Marcus Allen when he lights the torch?
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
“With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select…..”
Yes folks…..we are THAT bad…….
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
There is an old saying in Vegas, that “home dogs cover”, with the underlying meaning, take the home team with the points, but not to win.
So, with that theory in place, Raiders will probably lose by a FG, but I think we can buck it and win outright.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
So, do you think some hardcore AD loyalists will boo Marcus Allen when he lights the torch?
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I would expect so.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:56 am
The only way we win this game is if our D can somehow overwhelm Pitt’s O line and get Ben on the ground. Pitt has a vulnerable O line and no run game. Our O doesn’t figure to do much. If we can eke out 17 or 20 and our D plays out of its mind, perhaps we can get a 20-17 win or something like that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 am
Where I bet, 94% are taking the steelers. Usually going the other way is money. Also, since 2007 a team getting blown out back to back is 22-4 ATS the following game. Sure seems like either the raiders or titans pull it off this week.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:20 am
Pitt. no run game? They haven’t played us yet.
I look at this team and the only comparisons I can draw SO FAR are to Art Shell part deaux.
I hope they can prove me wrong. As far as teams coming off blowout losses and winning the next week…it’s the Raiders…we defy explanation or logical sense and laugh in the face of statistical trends..sometimes in a good way…but mostly bad.
DA- Win a freaking game and quit talking like your the coach of La. Tech.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
So, do you think some hardcore AD loyalists will boo Marcus Allen when he lights the torch?
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Eff M Allen.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 am
I look at this team and the only comparisons I can draw SO FAR are to Art Shell part deaux.
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The points for and against is almost IDENTICAL to the first two games of 2010.
2010 = outscored 54-29
2012 = outscore 57-27
And our home game against San Diego and road game in Miami last season, we were outscored by 32 points, this season 30 points.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 am
2006, on the other hand, we were outscored 55-6 through two games.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 am
Who cares about 2010!
What did we avg in 2011? How many points did we score the 1st 2 games last season in 2011?
2010?!?
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Waddup Nation. Rack ‘em
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 am
Who cares about 2010!
What did we avg in 2011? How many points did we score the 1st 2 games last season in 2011?
2010?!?
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It’s a valid comparison of Greg Knapp’s first two games as OC vs. Hue Jackson’s first two games as OC.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 am
There is a reason why JFB aka Vegas chose 2010 stats. It helps his argument.
2011: We scored 58 points. 58!!! Avg is 29 points/ game!
2012: we scorec 27 points. 27!! Avg is 13.5 points/ game.
We averaged 30+ points the 1st 3 games in 2011.
We also averaged 26.7 points/ game before DMAC was injured.
2010 stats. That’s ridiculous.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
2010 was Hue’s first year, his first 2 games.
2011 will be compared with 2013, Gregg Knapp’s 2nd season.
Apples to apples buddy.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 am
Who cares about 2010!
What did we avg in 2011? How many points did we score the 1st 2 games last season in 2011?
2010?!?
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It’s a valid comparison of Greg Knapp’s first two games as OC vs. Hue Jackson’s first two games as OC.
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Really?
So we had the same talent on offense in 2010?
Why not compare Knapp’s offense in SF to Hue’s offense with the skins?
You People….
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 am
Apples to apples?!? lol
Compare Knapps 1st games in 2007 to Hue’s 1st games in 2010.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
Even though I’m a proud member of the OHH’s (Original Huff Haters), I still have to admit I’m intrigued by the concept of Huff finally playing on the sideline. His days in the slot were just like his days at safety (ineffective), but if an athletic body knows how to use that sideline to his advantage, the outside can be a better place. Cheers to hoping he doesn’t fall flat on his face.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
It’s ok. I don’t blame you. I blame Chico.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 am
We have the 31st best rushing offense in the league.
Pitt is ranked 11th vs the rush.
Winner: Pitt
We are tied for third in the passing game.
Pitt is 5th on D against the pass.
Winner: Even
We are 8th on D against the pass.
Pitt is 18th in their passing game.
Winner: Oakland
Pitt is 30th with their run game.
Oakland in 29th vs the run.
Winner: Even
Home field advantage.
Winner: Oakland
Field goals both tied at 14th
Winner: Even
Total yards per game:
Oakland 15th
Pitt 25th
Winner: Oakland
Brains, logic and game planning.
Advantage: Pitt
We have a dirt baseball infield
Advantage: Oakland
Must win, season on the line game.
Most desperate: Oakland
Fan base about ready to lose their mind.
Winner: Oakland
Worst scheme, total failure, personel mis-management.
Winner: Oakland
Dumbest scheme for current player personel.
Advantage: Oakland
Coolest uniforms in the NFL.
Winner: Oakland
Best RB in the league.
Winner: Oakland
Pitt/Oak loss, coach goes into lame duck status.
Winner: Oakland
Oakland 32nd best team in kick returns (could be worse).
Pitt 15th in kick returns.
Winner: Pitt
QB passer rating.
Rothlessburger 99.5
Palmer 84.1
Advantage: Palmer (Yes, that’s right).
Beer sales.
Advantage: Oakland
Weather.
Advantage: Oakland
Owner with the most raddest hair cut.
Winner: Oakland
Gentlemen, I like the odds. Oakland by 3
Oakland 20
Pitt 17
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
QB passer rating.
Rothlessburger 99.5
Palmer 84.1
Advantage: Palmer (Yes, that’s right).
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LOL
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 am
Only game I’ve ever watched after a loss was the Snow Bowl game. If the Raiders win tomorrow I will watch it all week long and if they lose I won’t even acknowledge the game was ever played. Let the coaches stew in, but not me. To much pain. But no worries. Raiders going to win this one. Got a feeling Palmer and DMAC calling this game. knapp will be just a fan on the sidelines.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Really?
So we had the same talent on offense in 2010?
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You don’t have the same talent from game to game in today’s injury-riddled NFL.
Just comparing a 2010 with a new OC, offense, and supposedly a new blocking scheme, to a 2012 team that is going through the same thing.
Just some historical perspective, on why the walls aren’t caving in just yet.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:51 am
I worry about Huff on the deep patterns.
He seems to get blown by fairly often when facing those plays, and Mike Wallace blows by the fastest guys in the NFL.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 am
As bad as Oakland is right now with their inept ZBS and the leaky defense, I don’t believe Pittsburg is looking at this game like they got it in the bag. I think the Raiders will be so hungry for a victory that it will be a disadvantage to the Steelers. Not that that means squatt or has any bearing on the outcome but it will tomorrow. Raiders will be more hungry than the Steelers.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
Aluminum Can Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 am
As bad as Oakland is right now with their inept ZBS and the leaky defense, I don’t believe Pittsburg is looking at this game like they got it in the bag. I think the Raiders will be so hungry for a victory that it will be a disadvantage to the Steelers. Not that that means squatt or has any bearing on the outcome but it will tomorrow. Raiders will be more hungry than the Steelers.
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Doesn’t matter if Raiders are hungry. They have no CBs. How they going to stop Steelers passing game. It’s not like the Raiders have much of a pass rush to get to Ben. Raiders gonna have to be very lucky to win this game.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:15 am
well lets put hanson and lee 30 yards back so they dont get blown away…
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
The Raiders have been in games into the 4th quarter. They just have to find ways to close out teams and not make the crucial mistake that costs games. It’s called learning how to win.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Really?
So we had the same talent on offense in 2010?
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You don’t have the same talent from game to game in today’s injury-riddled NFL.
Just comparing a 2010 with a new OC, offense, and supposedly a new blocking scheme, to a 2012 team that is going through the same thing.
Just some historical perspective, on why the walls aren’t caving in just yet.
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Good point.
An offense that scored 26.7 points/ game (1st 6 games when DMAC was healthy) is now scoring 13.5 points/ game.
I blame Knapp. Why? Look at his resume and what he did the last 4 years of his career as OC with 4 different teams.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Sup Nation. Roughly 24 hours to go until week 3’s contest is official. I pray to the football gods something awesome happens!! Possibly a victory, but will accept a close defeat as sad as that is. Seriously hope at least a couple facets of the game improve, all would be welcome, but need to see something, need some visual proof the direction of the team can be salvaged. Maybe Dmac breaks some big runs or CP3 throws for a few scores or Defense provides a constant pass rush or some ST return yards, or lastly stout run D. Hard to expect much of a make shift secondary, but I suppose any improvement there would be tits too! Some of this happens, and maybe alot of the posts around here will change for the better, both for morale and for the reading eye. Especially the rediculous Hue Jackson cajolery.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Who cares about the past, if I did I would think about the days when we were feared, and could stop anyone. I want to know why we need to give time and patience to Knapp, this is the NFL not baseball when can’t wait until half the season is the bag for improvement, complete BS.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 am
An offense that scored 26.7 points/ game (1st 6 games when DMAC was healthy) is now scoring 13.5 points/ game.
I blame Knapp. Why? Look at his resume and what he did the last 4 years of his career as OC with 4 different teams.
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The 2011 comparison isn’t valid. Hue had been here a year. 2010 is more valid, because it was Hue’s first season.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
I want to know why we need to give time and patience to Knapp, this is the NFL not baseball when can’t wait until half the season is the bag for improvement, complete BS.
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I can tell you why. Because the team just spent two months practicing a certain style of play. To scrap that 8 quarters into the season would be kind of silly. It’s the equivalent of a band rehearsing and rehearsing for a big gig and at the lst warm up show, some people walk out. So they decide to change from hardcore funk to country overnight.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 am
An offense that scored 26.7 points/ game (1st 6 games when DMAC was healthy) is now scoring 13.5 points/ game.
I blame Knapp. Why? Look at his resume and what he did the last 4 years of his career as OC with 4 different teams.
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The 2011 comparison isn’t valid. Hue had been here a year. 2010 is more valid, because it was Hue’s first season.
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It’s not a comparison. It’s a fact.
Comparing this season to 2010 is just ridiculous. Go compare Knapp’s 07 season to Hue’s 2010 season or Compare Knapp’s stats from SF to Hue’s with the Skins. LOL
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
weak duck…the season is proving you wrong…
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
weak duck…the season is proving you wrong…
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Maybe, maybe not. We’ll know more by midseason.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
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Doesn’t matter if Raiders are hungry. They have no CBs. How they going to stop Steelers passing game. It’s not like the Raiders have much of a pass rush to get to Ben. Raiders gonna have to be very lucky to win this game.
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Lucky, maybe. But finally a good gameplan and execution would suffice. The Jets, despite statistics were able to pass on the Steelers. The problem there was the Sanchez’ targets were dropping alot of balls. CP3 to Moore and DHB>Sanchez to Holmes & Hill.They were also able to Run on them, Greene was concussed and I think that effected their second half output. Obviously Payton was able to cut them up, far better then he faired against ATL. So there is hope, MUST have a pass rush, and stop the run. As well as long time consuming drives that MUST finish with scores. Then we have more of a chance then most give us. Teams, even as recent as last year of won many games with a bad pass D, Greenbay and NE come to mind.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Let’s compare the talent from 2011 that managed 26.7 points (when DMAC was healthy) and this year’s 13.5 points avg.
-QB: JC in 2011 and CP in 2012: upgrade
-HB: DMAC: Same
-FB: Reece: Same
-WR: DHB, Moore, and Ford in 2011. We still have DHB and Moore, but Ford is injured. We also added 2 young guys with a lot of potential (Streater & Criner): Same
-TE: Boss had 28 catches, and Myers is on pace to do more: same
-OL: we have 4 starters from last year (Playing different position is part of coaching and scheme): Same
We upgraded the QB position, we have the same players (except Satele and Boss), but we are scoring Less?!? Why? Satele and Boss are not the reason.
It’s Knapp!
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
TheBay2LA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
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Doesn’t matter if Raiders are hungry. They have no CBs. How they going to stop Steelers passing game. It’s not like the Raiders have much of a pass rush to get to Ben. Raiders gonna have to be very lucky to win this game.
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Lucky, maybe. But finally a good gameplan and execution would suffice. The Jets, despite statistics were able to pass on the Steelers. The problem there was the Sanchez’ targets were dropping alot of balls. CP3 to Moore and DHB>Sanchez to Holmes & Hill.They were also able to Run on them, Greene was concussed and I think that effected their second half output. Obviously Payton was able to cut them up, far better then he faired against ATL. So there is hope, MUST have a pass rush, and stop the run. As well as long time consuming drives that MUST finish with scores. Then we have more of a chance then most give us. Teams, even as recent as last year of won many games with a bad pass D, Greenbay and NE come to mind.
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Carson and the Raiders offense is going to have to light it up. We haven’t seen any evidence in first two games that is going to happen. Maybe CP throws for 500 yards tomorrow. Hope so.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Let’s compare the talent from 2011 that managed 26.7 points (when DMAC was healthy) and this year’s 13.5 points avg.
-QB: JC in 2011 and CP in 2012: upgrade
-HB: DMAC: Same
-FB: Reece: Same
-WR: DHB, Moore, and Ford in 2011. We still have DHB and Moore, but Ford is injured. We also added 2 young guys with a lot of potential (Streater & Criner): Same
-TE: Boss had 28 catches, and Myers is on pace to do more: same
-OL: we have 4 starters from last year (Playing different position is part of coaching and scheme): Same
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And Knapp’s running a completely different offense and blocking scheme. The 2011 Raiders, by contrast, were in the second year of Hue’s scheme.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:54 am
That’s why people are comparing this offense to last year’s offense. We have the same players (other than Satele and Boss), so peopl’e expectations were high for this offense.
Knapp was handed a capable offense that scored 26.7 points when DMAC was healthy and averaged 22.4 points for the season after losing DMAC and JC.
The same offense can’t manage to score 2 TDs/ game this season!?!?!
Effin Knapp!
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Let’s compare the talent from 2011 that managed 26.7 points (when DMAC was healthy) and this year’s 13.5 points avg.
-QB: JC in 2011 and CP in 2012: upgrade
-HB: DMAC: Same
-FB: Reece: Same
-WR: DHB, Moore, and Ford in 2011. We still have DHB and Moore, but Ford is injured. We also added 2 young guys with a lot of potential (Streater & Criner): Same
-TE: Boss had 28 catches, and Myers is on pace to do more: same
-OL: we have 4 starters from last year (Playing different position is part of coaching and scheme): Same
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And Knapp’s running a completely different offense and blocking scheme.
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That’s the point!!!!
He changed the scheme and the offense, and now we are struggling.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
TheBay2LA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
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Doesn’t matter if Raiders are hungry. They have no CBs. How they going to stop Steelers passing game. It’s not like the Raiders have much of a pass rush to get to Ben. Raiders gonna have to be very lucky to win this game.
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Carson and the Raiders offense is going to have to light it up. We haven’t seen any evidence in first two games that is going to happen. Maybe CP throws for 500 yards tomorrow. Hope so.
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I’ve seen evidence that it can happen, look at CP3’s yardage. Between the 20’s he’s throwing it around. If the run game gets going then, Krapps red zone plays will become effective. Without a running game it’s been hard for short yardage scoring. Lets hope the sun is shining on this dogs ass tomorrow. I’ve seen crazier things. My worst fear is that at some point due to lack of running game, Cp3 will begin to press and out of desperation the int’s will begin, like his 1st this year. Then everyone will be up in arms, well more so then now.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
By attrition Reggie/DA Reduce the Raiders to have to pickup and running back, quarterback, cornerbacks and decent kick /punt returner and lets not forget one or two defensive linemen, linebacker, safety, tightend, offensive linemen and also wide receivers. Yep,that will take a good five years to be competitive! Got patience?
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Btw, I understand the point you and Vegas are trying to make, and you have a valid point about Hue having 2 years to make his system work, and the new IC should get the same opportunity, but you are forgetting 2 things:
1- Hue still managed 22.4 points/ game after losing DMAC and playing a retired QB after losing JC.
2- The new OC is not new. Look at Knapp’s resume.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 am
OC*
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Love me or hate me, this is my message to this team! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/09/my-message-to-players.html #RaiderNation #Raiders
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 am
What Knapp did was take a competent offense and neutered it. Instead of building on last year, he tore it down and started from scratch. It’s clear the players aren’t “getting it” especially the oline. This is why you don’t fix what’s not broken. If DA had just gone with Saunders from the beginning rather than bringing in Knapp, I don’t think we would be seeing this ineptitude from the offense. It’s mind boggling that mediocre coaches like Knapp can still get gigs in the NFL.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
I get the point about not scrapping what was installed however I still don’t understand d the change, OK it easy right now when the team looks bad running the ball, but I still will not understand the change. Nobody can convince me that the change will be a positive at the end of the day.
I live in New York, you know how embarrassed I am to tell people I am a Raider fan, it is like “I am with stupid”t-shirts my friend D’s wear when they are with me. I live and die with this team unfortunately I have to admit the team is part of my DNA
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 am
The game against Pitt. has the potential to be a win for us, but…we are so badly over matched.
It’s kind of like Fresno St hosting Alabama..no matter how hard and loud those fans scream and how much Fresno WANTS to win it eventually comes down to not being able to compete talent wise…and coaching wise.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Remember DA was supposed to be pretty good a defensive coach. Bringing this good young mind to the head coach status was to soldify the defense, theory according to Reggie. Where’s The D?
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
RaiderChaos Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Love me or hate me, this is my message to this team! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/09/my-message-to-players.html #RaiderNation #Raiders
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Nice, it’s sad that this isn’t just the natural way of things. Intensity, should be as common as suiting up, especially for the scra they get paid to play this game as pro’s. Hard to imagine this sort of thing even needs to be written. SMH Raiders! One thing, why bother throwing in you played the game but needed to quit because of injury? While I appreciate your opinion, maybe make it less about you, as it held no value in context to your message, and was nearly a turn off. But otherwise, thanks for the read!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
RaiderChaos Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Love me or hate me, this is my message to this team! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/09/my-message-to-players.html #RaiderNation #Raiders
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LAME #Lame #LameAssBlogger
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Go compare Knapp’s 07 season to Hue’s 2010 season or Compare Knapp’s stats from SF to Hue’s with the Skins.
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Well old Knapp had 48 points through 2 games in 2007, about 3 TD’s more than Hue in 2010, lol.
The whole point is that Hue’s offense struggled JUST AS MUCH as we are right now through his first 2 games, and then we turned it on about a month after that.
Will that happen here? I know you don’t think so, and maybe not to the extent of 2010, but as the first 2 games of 2010 were the bottom of the barrel for our offense, I believe 2012 will work out the same way.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 am
The game against Pitt. has the potential to be a win for us, but…we are so badly over matched.
It’s kind of like Fresno St hosting Alabama..no matter how hard and loud those fans scream and how much Fresno WANTS to win it eventually comes down to not being able to compete talent wise…and coaching wise.
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Raiders always get at least 1 unexpected win per year. It’s irrelevant though because the overall mind set of the coach and OC = “Patience”. This scheme will not work.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Sad to say that i don’t think the org gives a red rats rip about what we say on this blog…I wish they did, but it’s articles like the one Monte Poole wrote that get attention. I know u guys hate him, but it’s all over the Bay Area media group and I believe…(don’t know for sure of course) that THAT’S the kind of stuff that gets the attention of a Mark Davis and/or Amy Trask.
When credentialed media (i know u hate him…just sayin) like Poole start yapping THAT is the stuff that gets noticed.
They will also notice when 20k show up at OCO for the Jags game.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
They will also notice when 20k show up at OCO for the Jags game.
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Jags game! Yeah, that is one we can get win!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Remember DA was supposed to be pretty good a defensive coach. Bringing this good young mind to the head coach status was to soldify the defense, theory according to Reggie. Where’s The D?
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What D? Denver D was ranked 20th last year. Not that good. Raiders were 29th
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
Well old Knapp had 48 points through 2 games in 2007, about 3 TD’s more than Hue in 2010, lol.
The whole point is that Hue’s offense struggled JUST AS MUCH as we are right now through his first 2 games, and then we turned it on about a month after that.
Will that happen here? I know you don’t think so, and maybe not to the extent of 2010, but as the first 2 games of 2010 were the bottom of the barrel for our offense, I believe 2012 will work out the same way.
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LOL Chico. Chico!!!
I hope you are right, but I wasn’t comfortable with hiring Knapp. After 6 games in 2012 and his resume, I’m ready to do something/ anything to save/ salvage the season. You have to agree that we kept Saunders and gave him an extension for a reason. He is our insurance against Knapp.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
RaiderMelon Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 11:02 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
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DMAC…Melona is a btch and i’ll slap his punk ass where he stands…Melona show up sunday so i can smack you btch
Giants not winning a WS this year…the A’s will
Niners having some success but will be giving props to the champion at end of season just like us
New 49er stadium? LOL what in Santa Clara where it becomes a 1 pct stadium? Shut up…the hardcore real Niner fans hate that place already so shut the fawk up. Raiders will get anew venue in Oakland that will schit no the 49ers lame stadium
Warriors not going to SF….are you crazy? LOL Lacob is a fool and I talked with Dave Newhouse face to face….SF will never have a basketball arena….those rich folks in SOMA not going for it…..you dont know a fkin thing you fraud…you are just a 49er/Giant fan phaggot coming on here to cause problems…you never been seen on here before and dont know schit….you SF fans stay getting beat up and punked
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LMAO at you blowing a head gasket.
First off, no, I don’t think you would don anything except buy me a beer, and admit you are my bich.
Your skinny little punkazz wouldn’t last 20 secs.
Pretty ignorant of you to state hardcore 49er fans already hate the place? You moron. Place isn’t built yet. How can you hate something that’s not built? lol.
It’s already slated as being one of the best if not the best stadium in the league.
Fans already have purchased over 700 MILLION in tickets, moron.
Majority of niner fans live down the peninsula, moron, so it’s closer. Better access. Great parking. Great weather.
Did you really say the Raiders will get a new stadium?
Are you slow in some way we should know about?
Only stadium the Raiders will end up in, that’s new, is begging the 49ers to let them in. That’s it. You know, and everyone knows the Raiders have been spinning wheels for years and have gotten zero progress.
the 49ers punked the Raiders as far as getting the job done.
Understand that?
One team got the job done. One owner did what the other other failed miserably at.
Something you’ll just have to live with.
and the funniest part was you saying the Warriors aren’t doing what they told everyone there were doing, because you talked to Newhouse? A beat reporter?
You are kind of clueless, aren’t you?
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HAHAHA yeah right was this is a response? You little pillow biting buffoon wouldnt do schit to anyone on this blog. You were born a chump and shall forever remain one. I’ll be the same guy in your face as am on this blog…you been a SF btch for years…we all know who you are and I’ll reveal it at the end…you are so obvious…as for me lasting 20 seconds……..21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30……………I call your bluff and then after I follow through then we can get a beer as men do after settling their difference. Your btch? Hey man you arent in Folsom with your Aryan Nation brothers…spare us the h0m0 jail talk this is aRaider blog not a 49er blog
How is it ignorant to state that hardcore 49er fans hate that place already? Its a 1 pct stadium and its not in SF….I mean how hard is that to grasp? The design is ugly as hell mayne with Suite predominantly on one side of the field!
The majority of 49er fans dont live down the peninsula. That’s a damn lie. People down the peninsula have money no doubt and can afford the tickets is all. You are quite confused as there are many 49er fans all throughout NorCal so as usual you are lying
What is the 670 million purchased mean really? I said HARDCORE fans and mostly rich people aint HARDCORE and we all know this….you talking about Rich folks buying tickets…..wooooooo great evidence there
Great parking? HAHA they wont even be able to tailgate anymore…hardcore 49ers hate that schit you moron as any hardcore NFL person would!
The Raiders will never beg the 49ers to share a stadium thats a lie and a fantasy of Roger Goodell’s that the Raider brass will never let happen. You dont know of what is going on with the city and the Raiders these. They will get their stadium right where they at now. Oakland as a city has been undergoing serious change. I know skinheads such as yourself hate it but you will have to learn to accept it
What job have the 49ers done? How have they punked the Raiders? They moved a few counties down from SF…so who really got punked? SC county is nothing like SF county at all. You failed to get a stadium in an international city that has had football there since 1946. 49ers are fools for never getting something built by China Basin like the Giants did. Yeah so in a few years when Super Bowl is in Santa Clara watch how embarrassing it is when people are not gonna wanna party down there. They will be towards the REAL BAY AREA…not lame ass SJ or Santa Clara
So I’m not living with anything except the fact that the east bay is still king over that sissy side of the bay. You claim we lagging behind SF….really? Explain. A’s are the Giants daddy in baseball. You can point to some gay ass park filled with bandwagon fans who know squat about baseball but the flags dont lie. 4 to 1. In football you are leaving the SF area for an area with no major sports teams in it….NHL dont count. Congrats you moved to a little suburb…we’re inspired lol. BASKETBALL lol…where do you think all the pro talent comes from in the Bay area? It comes from our side…nada from that side. SF is not a basketball city and never will be
Funny you slam Dave Newhouse for being a beat writer but he has way more knowledge on this than you and I. He has been in the loop for years in the bay Area sports scene. As he told me they been trying to find a place in SF for 50 years and still has done nada yet. Come on they gonna build off a pier that the city doesnt even own? Dont you know Sf has more special interests groups in the country than any other city by far? Those rich people in SOMA and China Basin aint about to go for it. No they are not gonna go for the area being a traffic nightmare that it will bring. They dont want some big ass arena blocking that beautiful view they have. Oh dont tell me you are one o those guys saying top free agents will come to SF….lol lets call the facts buddy…the NBA is 90 pct black and given the recent news about the racist practices of SF police that will sure go over well lol.
Like you really can hide who you are Ricochet aka PEDOchet….you think I cant recognize you with your anti east bay message? You are all about your lame segregated ass SF city as if its all great when it has just as much if not more issues than Oakland. What pitiful way to try and use the name RaiderMelon knowing you hate the Raiders. You were hardly anywhere to be found in 2010 and 2011…but just like 2009 when it seemed obvious the Raiders would be one ofthe worse teams in the NFL you will be on here. you are a sorry piece of schit and are better off killing yourself
BTW…..I’m still counting
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
They will also notice when 20k show up at OCO for the Jags game.
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Not so fast Klasmeister…have patience and please try to keep this in perspective.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Go compare Knapp’s 07 season to Hue’s 2010 season or Compare Knapp’s stats from SF to Hue’s with the Skins.
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Well old Knapp had 48 points through 2 games in 2007, about 3 TD’s more than Hue in 2010, lol.
The whole point is that Hue’s offense struggled JUST AS MUCH as we are right now through his first 2 games, and then we turned it on about a month after that.
Will that happen here? I know you don’t think so, and maybe not to the extent of 2010, but as the first 2 games of 2010 were the bottom of the barrel for our offense, I believe 2012 will work out the same way.
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Knapp’s Scheme and play calling are horrible. We have seen it before. Way different than Hue. Hue’s O had potential and it came together. Not the same situation with Krappy.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 am
Chico,
How many more games before we pull the plug on Knapp? 2-6 more games?
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
I dont like what Knapp did either fellas…but these players gotta rise above it and win a damn game….Troy and Roids Harrison wont play so the excuses wont work for me tomorrow…I’ll be there but it will get ugly if these coaches and players can come together and win a damn game
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
If he doesn’t improve.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Hmmm. What did the detractors say about Al? His stubborness was his undoing right? Inflexible, defiant.
Well, what do we have now?
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Go compare Knapp’s 07 season to Hue’s 2010 season or Compare Knapp’s stats from SF to Hue’s with the Skins.
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Well old Knapp had 48 points through 2 games in 2007, about 3 TD’s more than Hue in 2010, lol.
The whole point is that Hue’s offense struggled JUST AS MUCH as we are right now through his first 2 games, and then we turned it on about a month after that.
Will that happen here? I know you don’t think so, and maybe not to the extent of 2010, but as the first 2 games of 2010 were the bottom of the barrel for our offense, I believe 2012 will work out the same way.
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Knapp’s Scheme and play calling are horrible. We have seen it before. Way different than Hue. Hue’s O had potential and it came together. Not the same situation with Krappy.
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Nevermind Vegas…..he is a proponent of the WCO and the SBS
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Hmmm. What did the detractors say about Al? His stubborness was his undoing right? Inflexible, defiant.
Well, what do we have now?
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Same thing without the credentials of Al
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Knapp’s Scheme and play calling are horrible. We have seen it before. Way different than Hue. Hue’s O had potential and it came together. Not the same situation with Krappy.
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You guys are missing my point, too focused on the debate about the OC.
I am saying, in recent Raider history, that when we install a new scheme offensively, the first 2 games especially, have been awful.
2006 we score a whole 6 points in two games, then average almost 15 points a game the rest of the season.
2010 we score two more points than we have so far this season, and went on to be a top 5 scoring team.
So the trend (hello O!!!!) is that it takes a minute for things to get going, and I truly believe 2012 will be the same.
Will we get cooking like 2010? That’s a whole different debate.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
How many more games before we pull the plug on Knapp? 2-6 more games?
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15-20
Seriously
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Knapp’s Scheme and play calling are horrible. We have seen it before. Way different than Hue. Hue’s O had potential and it came together. Not the same situation with Krappy.
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You guys are missing my point, too focused on the debate about the OC.
I am saying, in recent Raider history, that when we install a new scheme offensively, the first 2 games especially, have been awful.
2006 we score a whole 6 points in two games, then average almost 15 points a game the rest of the season.
2010 we score two more points than we have so far this season, and went on to be a top 5 scoring team.
So the trend (hello O!!!!) is that it takes a minute for things to get going, and I truly believe 2012 will be the same.
Will we get cooking like 2010? That’s a whole different debate.
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DMAC our best player in 2010 looked great in his first two games…..you have no point
You are a hack for the WCO and SBS
2007 we installed new offense….21 pts and then 20…they moved the ball and the RBs didnt look so bad…so this post is full of it my friend
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Nevermind Vegas…..he is a proponent of the WCO and the SBS
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I am a proponent of what the Raiders are trying to do, at least for more than 2 games.
You know what I am not a proponent of? Moving your rotation around to toss in Blackley, just so you don’t toss 3 righties in a row against the Yankee’s.
You got to dance with the girl you brought. Not the time to be overly creative.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
DMAC our best player in 2010 looked great in his first two games
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Well looking great and scoring points are two different things.
We averaged 14.5 points through 2 games in 2010.
Sorry for being optimistic.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
VEGAS…that notion that we will really get things going to be a potent offense in 2012 is a fking crying shame. Its sad you still miss the fact that DMAC isnt a SBS runner…you still miss the fact we got evidence Palmer isnt a match for the WCO…you miss the fact Knapp’s most success was in his first two years in SF when they ran power blocking and had TO…..you are worse than a politician
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
it took Hue’s eplosive offense 7 weeks to click.
we got embarassed by the Titans, we didn’t convincingly beat the Lambs, we lost to the Cardinals, and niners, and our defense and special teams beat the chargers.
our first offesnive explosiveness came in week 7 at Denver, who was one of the softest teams in recent nfl history that year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
DMAC our best player in 2010 looked great in his first two games
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Well looking great and scoring points are two different things.
We averaged 14.5 points through 2 games in 2010.
Sorry for being optimistic.
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Hypocrite to the max you are…..you werent willing to wait for JC who was in a new offense and were all about the Bruce Crapkowski schit….now you want us to be patient? Shut up man
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
The Raiders are going to really have to get on Big Ben. They have to physically kick his assz tomorrow to have any chance.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Nevermind Vegas….
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Yea,you don’t want to let FACTS get in the way of your argument.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Tonedeezy Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
it took Hue’s eplosive offense 7 weeks to click.
we got embarassed by the Titans, we didn’t convincingly beat the Lambs, we lost to the Cardinals, and niners, and our defense and special teams beat the chargers.
our first offesnive explosiveness came in week 7 at Denver, who was one of the softest teams in recent nfl history that year.
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Well….the Chargers game when JC got back in was when it started…Hue and JC together blew the SF game
Knapp deserves no room for sympathy my friend…he is arrogant in not using his players correctly and is hated in the places he has worked…we look god awful…I mean the worse ever…DMAC is the worse RB in league….and you want us to be patient?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Dakota Says: Watching top 10 collapses on NFL network…1995 raiders are number 10 and the 1986 team is number 7.////////////’95, was that 2 and 6 down the stretch?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Stephen Drew with a homer….but Blackley has been fkin up…we down 4-3….schit
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am
KoolKell Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
The Raiders are going to really have to get on Big Ben. They have to physically kick his assz tomorrow to have any chance.
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Big Ben will have a big game. Thanks to Reggie picking injury prone starting CB’s. The second hand CB’s will get worked.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Bout to head to LAX to jump on a plane to Oakland! Cant wait to see the Nation rocking tomorrow while we whip the Squealers!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Dakota Says: Watching top 10 collapses on NFL network…1995 raiders are number 10 and the 1986 team is number 7.////////////’95, was that 2 and 6 down the stretch?
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No that was first year back in Oakland…there were 8-2 when Cowboys Dlineman knocked Hostetler out for the season at home…..there went 0-6 down stretch…..nightmare…all they had to do was beat Denver at home and lost 31-28 I believe
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 am
Method To My Madness Says: you are worse than a politician////////////////Can there be a more damning insult?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 am
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Bout to head to LAX to jump on a plane to Oakland! Cant wait to see the Nation rocking tomorrow while we whip the Squealers!
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That’s whats up…..I’ll be in the lot too….cant wait to meet ya…eventho you from LA…shows dedication you coming up this way…we will have ya going…you got Hwnrdr’s info?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 am
Another big thing Raiders are missing this year is the one two punch of DMAC and Bush. That was a great combo. Great job Reggie. Goodson??? LOL
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
For all of us that don’t like Knapp u may enjoy watching him go down in flames…
He has said publicly (in an interview on Raiders.com) that his goal is to be a HC in this league.
Good luck after taking the Raiders offense and turning into a ridiculous failure.
Guess what Knappo…there’s not many owners and GM’s who are gonna want a guy that makes nothing but excuses and takes a 9th ranked offense…destroys it then tells the fanbase to ‘be patient’ and ‘keep things in perspective a minute here’.
GM’s with winning or non-winning orgs wnat to win NOW..PERIOD.
Last thing a long suffering fanbase wnats to hear is to ‘be patient while we take down something that was working and install “what I want to do”.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
Bout to head to LAX to jump on a plane to Oakland! Cant wait to see the Nation rocking tomorrow while we whip the Squealers!/////////////I’d almost rather drive to Oakland than drive to LAX.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Nevermind Vegas….
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Yea,you don’t want to let FACTS get in the way of your argument.
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Enlighten us OG Leftster….how ya doin btw?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
But I was Pasadena based.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
KoolKell Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
The Raiders are going to really have to get on Big Ben. They have to physically kick his assz tomorrow to have any chance.
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I agree…but Kell wouldnt it be better to do that every week vs every QB?
I think the two guys that will ultimately play biggest role on D will have to be Shaughnessy and Tollefson
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
For all of us that don’t like Knapp u may enjoy watching him go down in flames…
He has said publicly (in an interview on Raiders.com) that his goal is to be a HC in this league.
Good luck after taking the Raiders offense and turning into a ridiculous failure.
Guess what Knappo…there’s not many owners and GM’s who are gonna want a guy that makes nothing but excuses and takes a 9th ranked offense…destroys it then tells the fanbase to ‘be patient’ and ‘keep things in perspective a minute here’.
GM’s with winning or non-winning orgs wnat to win NOW..PERIOD.
Last thing a long suffering fanbase wnats to hear is to ‘be patient while we take down something that was working and install “what I want to do”.
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Very true. Both DA and Knapp said “Patient”. What horrible choice of words. Raider Nation has been “patient” for like 10 years.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
He has said publicly (in an interview on Raiders.com) that his goal is to be a HC in this league.
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That’s a good thing. You want the guy to have someting driving him. This means he needs to be successful as OC in order to make that step. Not saying he’ll get there or even that he won’t, just saying it’s good not to have a guy that’s comfortable with his station.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
How many more games before we pull the plug on Knapp? 2-6 more games?
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15-20
Seriously
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I get your point about the trend. that makes sense, but don’t forget that most fans wanted to keep the offense and Saunders who was the OC (not play caller) because we had a good offense that was scoring 26.7 points with DMAC, and their expectations increased after we traded for CP (best QB we had in years).
15-20….
I think that will happen, but I dont agree with the decision. I fear the GM and DA will keep Knapp the entire year, and allow him to continue next year.
Stability!
That crap is overrated (good for families) lol
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
But I was Pasadena based.
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Dena got women tho!
I feel ya…the 405 aint no punk…dont know how LA cats do it
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
and Houston.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
My god Josh Reddick can you hit any worse? Again with bases loaded you fk up and end the inning….220 since all star break 9 homers with a terrible on base pct
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
I understand we were beat by a rookie QB already. But, to have any chance and to protect our secondary, Big Ben has to take a beating.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
Method To My Madness Says:
Dena got women tho!
I feel ya…the 405 aint no punk…dont know how LA cats do it////////////Moved to Grass Valley in ‘91 and last time (2006) I was in LA and Pasadena, did not recognize sch1tt.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
and Houston.
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As far as what? Containing big ben? lol…..Houston needs to play inside…he cant rush the passer
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
Method To My Madness Says:
Dena got women tho!
I feel ya…the 405 aint no punk…dont know how LA cats do it////////////Moved to Grass Valley in ‘91 and last time (2006) I was in LA and Pasadena, did not recognize sch1tt.
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Thats how it goes when u aint been to a place in a long time
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
KoolKell Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
I understand we were beat by a rookie QB already. But, to have any chance and to protect our secondary, Big Ben has to take a beating.
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Then you better talk to Tarver and that overrated Dline of ours
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
B-I’m doing sh!tty-the Raiders haven’t won a game and the A’sare playing themselves out of the playoffs.Plus I get sick and tired of reading all the hate that is spewed toward the Raiders by supposed die hard fans-talking about what might have been while ignoring the fact we sucked to finish up last year.All JFB is saying is when we have installed new offensive schemes in the past they weren’t successful right out of the gate and it is wrong to crucify the new scheme so soon.Will it be successful in the future-who knows but so far it has been the same as the previous ones.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
For all of us that don’t like Knapp u may enjoy watching him go down in flames…
He has said publicly (in an interview on Raiders.com) that his goal is to be a HC in this league.
Good luck after taking the Raiders offense and turning into a ridiculous failure.
Guess what Knappo…there’s not many owners and GM’s who are gonna want a guy that makes nothing but excuses and takes a 9th ranked offense…destroys it then tells the fanbase to ‘be patient’ and ‘keep things in perspective a minute here’.
GM’s with winning or non-winning orgs wnat to win NOW..PERIOD.
Last thing a long suffering fanbase wnats to hear is to ‘be patient while we take down something that was working and install “what I want to do”.
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Very true. Both DA and Knapp said “Patient”. What horrible choice of words. Raider Nation has been “patient” for like 10 years.
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Its insulting AND CONDESCENDING to even say that to us after all we have endured. Allen looks lost on sideline and Knapp is totally clueless right now….he knows power based scheme very well and has had his best success with it but still will still with pure zone….smh…better win tomorrow
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Houston needs to play inside…he cant rush the passer///////////Yes he can.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
Why do people want Carson to throw for 500 yards? You dont want carson throwing 45x a game. More chance for picks and usually we Lose. 500 yards and 13 points to show for it.
You need to get that FN RUN GAME GOING. RUN GAME.. I REPEAT RUN GAME NEEDS TO BE GOING.
and F 2010 stats. Look at 2011.. we are suppose to be building off that.. not going backwards. HUE SHOULD STLL BE HERE
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
Connecticut at Western Michigan
NFL teams attending: Chicago Bears (General Manager Phil Emery), Detroit Lions, Houston Texans, Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Prospects to watch: Western Michigan: QB Alex Carder, DE Paul Hazel, OT Dann O’Neill, FS *Johnnie Simon, CB *Lewis Toler; Connecticut: OT *Kevin Friend, CB Dwayne Gratz, TE Ryan Griffin, DE Jesse Joseph, RB *Lyle McCombs, OLB Sio Moore, ILB **Yawin Smallwood, DT *Shamar Stephen, WR Nick Williams, DE/OLB Trevardo Williams, CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson.
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Maryland at West Virginia
NFL teams attending: Carolina Panthers, Miami Dolphins, Oakland Raiders, Pittsburgh Steelers and Washington Redskins.
Prospects to watch: West Virginia: RB Shawne Alston, WR Tavon Austin, WR *Stedman Bailey, K Tyler Bitancurt, OG Jeff Braun, FB Ryan Clarke, OLB Terence Garvin, OG Josh Jenkins, C Joe Madsen, CB Pat Miller, QB Geno Smith; Maryland: WR Kerry Boykins, FB Devonte Campbell, WR Kevin Dorsey, OLB Darin Drakeford, DT A.J. Francis, FS Eric Franklin, TE Matt Furstenburg, OT Justin Gilbert, OLB Demetrius Hartsfield, CB *Dexter McDougle, OLB/SS Kenny Tate, DT Joe Vellano.
Second straight week the Raiders have scouts at a WVU game.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
Knapp. If u wanna be a HC in this league like u say, your chances of that plummet with each embarrassing loss you contribute to.
Forget the fans…we know u don’t care about us anyway, but think about your future…your goal of being a HC someday.
GM’s are not gonna care about your excuses, they are gonna ask themselves “did this guy help the team he was with win games..period”?
No all GM’s are gonna be as benevolent as Reggie and ignore your past failures.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 am
i just wanna know how our zone defense compares to the press man of last year….and no the injuries are not part if it because bartell was getting lit up too
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
If you wanna go there…
The difference between Hue Jackson’s (14.5 ppg) and Greg Knapp’s first 2 games (13.5 ppg) is that Hue inherited a team that scored 12.3 ppg the year before, so he actually improved by 2 points, Knapp inherited a unit that scored 22.4 the previous year and now averages 9 points less.
Big difference.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
DJ Johnny Says: Knapp. If u wanna be a HC in this league like u say///////Did e actually say that?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Maybe Seymour gets ejected tomorrow for a cheap shot on Big Ben?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
B-I’m doing sh!tty-the Raiders haven’t won a game and the A’sare playing themselves out of the playoffs.Plus I get sick and tired of reading all the hate that is spewed toward the Raiders by supposed die hard fans-talking about what might have been while ignoring the fact we sucked to finish up last year.All JFB is saying is when we have installed new offensive schemes in the past they weren’t successful right out of the gate and it is wrong to crucify the new scheme so soon.Will it be successful in the future-who knows but so far it has been the same as the previous ones.
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You can be sick of tired but what exactly new scheme are we installing? Knapp’s sorry ass has been here before and he was demoted for good reason. I’m not a fan and you know and never will be one. Dont say I ignored the fact that we stunk down to the end….I said Hue ego would cost us after the Hagan thing and it surely did. I for one Im glad he is gone.
It is not wrong to crucify Knapp’s scheme when we all have friends and family in those other cities he has worked in outside of Oakland. Its the shame schit over and over again.
And if Reggie,Allen and Knapp are so gung ho on patience why the hell is a 33 year old QB making 12 million even on the roster? A guy who doesnt fit that scheme at that! We’re sick of tired of seeing schit like this knowing it wont work…come on OG
Actually it isnt the same so far….no one was calling for the playcaller’s head as they are now. The Airwaves werent going in on the OC as they are with Knapp. People wouldnt have started a petitionin those other years
Hey in March you and others blasted me for dissing Knapp off the bat. I said scheme doesnt fit these players and it surely is looking as so. We want to win division…we want to make the playoffs now….not wait another summer saying this can be the year
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
DJ Johnny Says: Knapp. If u wanna be a HC in this league like u say///////Did e actually say that?
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YES! I think it was one of his first interviews when he got here.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
Lefty…as for the A’s….I love them going through this right now…..it will only make us better when we get into the playoffs…and we will get in….I have unshakeable confidence in this….as I talk cliff gets a nice oppo field base hit…4-4 tie…..Drew is up 2 men on and no outs….well he struck out…but we will win this game and bmore will lose…..Angels will lose….Texas I think wins tonight tho….I see A’s being 3 games back going into Texas
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Houston needs to play inside…he cant rush the passer///////////Yes he can.
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Huh? From UT spot yes….DE…no
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
yeah pizzs me off that people say wait three years…skrw that, this is year 3…
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Too many of you wanted Al gone and changes to be made.Now that that is happening you can’t handle it and want things and look at things the same as when Davis was in charge.DJ,i know this is difficult to understand but Reggie didn’t hire Knapp.Reggie did what 99% of you wanted-he hired a HC and gave him control over his assistants.I personally like DA.I know many of you don’t.Under Davis his job might have already been in danger and you would have complained about how he hired and fired coaches.Now you are moaning because the guy will hopefully be here at least 2-3 years.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
KoolKell Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Maybe Seymour gets ejected tomorrow for a cheap shot on Big Ben?
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Well he needs to play like a star….to me he has done nada thus far
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
and in 2006 when we beat the steelers at home we had ASMOUGHA at corner.. and a young speeedy (Fasst!) Chris Carr. he was a pretty good player for us.
Kirk Morrison even had an INT off Ben. He was good at getting INTS. I saw an INT go right through Wheelers hands last week.
Someone needs to make a damn play
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:43 am
Reggie, DA, and Knapp are clueless or egotist.
Raiders had the 9th ranked offense last year. They need to acknowledge this. Could you imagine if the NFL leading rusher DMAC did not get hurt? Raiders would of had a top 5 offense. Maybe even better. That’s why Raider Nation is so outraged.
You build on that. Not destroy it. The window of opportunity for this team to win was suppose to be this year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Let’s go Buckeyes!
I like Johnathan Hankins a lot.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Too many of you wanted Al gone and changes to be made.Now that that is happening you can’t handle it and want things and look at things the same as when Davis was in charge.DJ,i know this is difficult to understand but Reggie didn’t hire Knapp.Reggie did what 99% of you wanted-he hired a HC and gave him control over his assistants.I personally like DA.I know many of you don’t.Under Davis his job might have already been in danger and you would have complained about how he hired and fired coaches.Now you are moaning because the guy will hopefully be here at least 2-3 years.
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I for one will follow Al Davis on 90 pct of things…never wanted him gone
Reggie was dumb to still have Carson and that contract here in an offense so not suited to his talents….dont you see an issue with that as a GM?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
303Raider: Raiders 20 Steelers 17
Burton Guster Says: Raiders 28 Steelers 21
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 24 Steelers 21 Seabass wins it
hendu Says: Raiders 23,and Franco 17.
Klas Tjorborn: Steelers 35 Raiders 24
qodrn: Raiders 24 Pittsburgh 23
RaiderDanny: Steelers 35 Raiders 10
RaiderRockstar Says: Raiders 27 Squeelers 24
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am
New coaches 2000 saints= win division
New coaches 2006 saints= win division
New coaches 2011 49ers= win division
New coaches 2006 Jets= 12-4
New Coaches 1999 seahawaks= win division
I can go on and on….I dont wanna hear excuses…I want results
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
The Raiders were 16 in scoring last year.That #9 crap is just that-crap.We were outscored almost 2-1 in the second half of games last year.Those are numbers many of you conveniently ignore.Jackson was out-coached every damn game.Stay in your fantasy worlds all you want.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
and in 2006 when we beat the steelers at home we had ASMOUGHA at corner.. and a young speeedy (Fasst!) Chris Carr. he was a pretty good player for us.
Kirk Morrison even had an INT off Ben. He was good at getting INTS. I saw an INT go right through Wheelers hands last week.
Someone needs to make a damn play
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U get paid millions to make a play….In Oakland they get paid millions to get drunk and trick on h0es
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Hankins is a beast at NT, and he can rush the passer. He reminds me of Wilfork.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
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September 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
The Raiders were 16 in scoring last year.That #9 crap is just that-crap.We were outscored almost 2-1 in the second half of games last year.Those are numbers many of you conveniently ignore.Jackson was out-coached every damn game.Stay in your fantasy worlds all you want.
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Hue ego was a major issue and his halftime adjustments were crap usually
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
never wanted al gone, but his time came rip…through it all he never stopped trying to win…im cool with a gm just wanted someone who could take als legacy and continue with it…big fast and athletic players…not what reggie brought in small, slow and “effort” players…effort is great….in high school and college…this is the nfl though…
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Hankins is a beast at NT, and he can rush the passer. He reminds me of Wilfork.
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We dont need a NT according to most of the bloggers….Seymour and Kelly are super elite
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
never wanted al gone, but his time came rip…through it all he never stopped trying to win…im cool with a gm just wanted someone who could take als legacy and continue with it…big fast and athletic players…not what reggie brought in small, slow and “effort” players…effort is great….in high school and college…this is the nfl though…
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Talent is what wins consistently and what wins titles….ask pats why they cant beat the Giants…..TALENT
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Man its cool that Allen is lighting the torch.. but who gives a damn?
How about Mark worrying that this team is on the right track and if we can win a ball game
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
I hear what you are saying Lefty, which is why I wasn’t even behind the Cable firing when it happened. Sick of having a new HC every dam yr.
It’s hard to embrace a new HC that has no track record of anything. Was he a god DC? I guess so and he is somewhat well regarded, but all we have to judge him from is this horrible disaster we’ve seen thus far.
If this was Parcells..or Gruden…we could be confident that things will get better…cuz they have a track record of not accepting losing. If one of those guys said “have patience” most of us would be like…”SURE..we know what you can do”.
I really hope DA changes my mind but all we have to judge him is by this crap that we’ve seen so far.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
exactly method…
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Dammit Chris Carter is sucking just like Reddick…Moss gets a lead off baseknock and here you go fishing at first pitch!…..schit this is killing me mayne
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Man its cool that Allen is lighting the torch.. but who gives a damn?
How about Mark worrying that this team is on the right track and if we can win a ball game
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Us real Raiders will be booing and shooting Mucus the bird
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Not just new coaches. New organizational structure entirely. New philosophy. Roster overhaul. Sorry guys, but it’s a rebuild – from the ground up. And few other organizations had to completely modernize the franchise in one offseason.
It’s going to take a few seasons for this team to be competitive enough to even think about going deep into the postseason. Just being realistic here.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
You don’t think BIG REGGIE knew who DA had in mind as OC when Reggie had a interview with DA for the HC position?
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
And no, Hue Jackson wasn’t going to to lead the Raiders to a Superbowl this year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Dammit then Reddick pops out….man he is stinking it up…at least we know he aint off roids
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
B,actually I’m not disagreeing with YOU,it is the majority on here that I am directing my comments to.At least when you give your opinion you back it up.Most just make outrageous comments or repeat what someone else says.With that I’m out of here.Enjoy the game tomorrow and hopefully we get a W.Now continue with the hate-fest diehards.LMFAO
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
The Raiders were 16 in scoring last year.That #9 crap is just that-crap.We were outscored almost 2-1 in the second half of games last year.Those are numbers many of you conveniently ignore.Jackson was out-coached every damn game.Stay in your fantasy worlds all you want.
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Yeah, great logic there. Let’s just ignore the offensive stats. You can also ignore the teams that where in the playoffs or won the Super Bowl. It means nothing uhhhhhh??????
2011 top 10 offenses:
1.New Orleans Saints
2.New England Patriots
3.Green Bay Packers
4.Philadelphia Eagles
5.Detroit Lions
6.San Diego Chargers
7.Carolina Panthers
8.New York Giants
9.Oakland Raiders
10.Atlanta Falcons
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
And no, Hue Jackson wasn’t going to to lead the Raiders to a Superbowl this year.
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He couldnt lead a crackhead to a crackhouse
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
modernize then…buy them freakin ipads, get a new weight room whatever…just dont mess with the talent that was coming together…
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
If you’re looking for some insight into the new regime’s draft philosophy, consider that they’ve spent two consecutive weeks getting a long look at Geno Smith.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Hankins is a beast at NT, and he can rush the passer. He reminds me of Wilfork.
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We dont need a NT according to most of the bloggers….Seymour and Kelly are super elite
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You and J know better.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Man if allen had never brought in Knapp or this crappy zbs ..I would have been fine. GIve him 3 years.
But since he is firm in knapp and this, im questioning the guy. If he sticks himself to knapp well then dont be suprised if u are out after this or next season.
Sunday is gonna tell me alot about how hard these guys play for Allen. i see us winning 5 games this year. and maybe 5 next. 10 games in two seasons is not good.
Especially when we won 8 last year
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Not just new coaches. New organizational structure entirely. New philosophy. Roster overhaul. Sorry guys, but it’s a rebuild – from the ground up. And few other organizations had to completely modernize the franchise in one offseason.
It’s going to take a few seasons for this team to be competitive enough to even think about going deep into the postseason. Just being realistic here.
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Ok but if you do that then whats the explanation for Palmer making 12 million at 33 for a rebuild year in an offense not suited for him? That’s stupid
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Hankins is a beast at NT, and he can rush the passer. He reminds me of Wilfork.
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We dont need a NT according to most of the bloggers….Seymour and Kelly are super elite
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You and J know better.
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No….SnB and I know better…Jhill doesnt deserve that he was an advocate for those two bums for the longest
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Had to make one more comment-Phuck M.Allen and the horse he rode in on.He shouldn’t be anywhere near this organization.Go back to KC you punk.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok but if you do that then whats the explanation for Palmer making 12 million at 33 for a rebuild year in an offense not suited for him? That’s stupid
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Cutting him would have accelerated the cap hit, which would have meant the Raiders couldn’t have locked up Branch, extended Reece, etc. Plus Palmer restructured his contract enough to make it palatable long-term. He’ll be a good veteran presence assuming the Raiders look at a QB in the draft after this season.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Dammit A’s give up lead…you have lefties in your pen and you let Ibanez do you in? Melvin can be so dumb sometimes
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Houston needs to play inside…he cant rush the passer///////////Yes he can.
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Huh? From UT spot yes….DE…no
////////////////////////I still think he can.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Had to make one more comment-Phuck M.Allen and the horse he rode in on.He shouldn’t be anywhere near this organization.Go back to KC you punk.
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YES!….OG has spoken…Fk Mucus
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
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Any of you catch Nob Bust’s 2nd biggest meltdown of the month yesterday? Totally hilarious
He invented a version of my screen name and pretended to be me, only totally gay. Then when all of my blog homies started bagging on him he went into full on meltdown mode, panicked and flamed out into the night
Man, we had a totally sweet blog laugh at his expense. Nob is the gift that just keeps on giving, holla
Yo, Rasta Ganja is partying hella hard here at the Catamaran pool, got our huge gig tonight.
Gotta finish off this Mai Tai and I’ll be right back to holla at you fools
PEACE OUT PLAYAS
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok but if you do that then whats the explanation for Palmer making 12 million at 33 for a rebuild year in an offense not suited for him? That’s stupid
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Cutting him would have accelerated the cap hit, which would have meant the Raiders couldn’t have locked up Branch, extended Reece, etc. Plus Palmer restructured his contract enough to make it palatable long-term. He’ll be a good veteran presence assuming the Raiders look at a QB in the draft after this season.
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So what if it accelerated cap…not like you doing schit with it anyways…..yeah we locked up Branch and Reece…such elite future HOF players. Good vet presence? What will he provide in a scheme that he sucks in? What is he teaching? You dont rebuild with a QB making that much money at all….thats a damn joke
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Maybe Seymour gets ejected tomorrow for a cheap shot on Big Ben?
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Well he needs to play like a star….to me he has done nada thus far/////////////////////////////////Either one works for me. Would rather he play like a star tho’.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I dont care what kind of personality the HC has. He can he as boisterous Rex Ryan or as soft spoken a Tony Dungy. It just tickles be pink when I hear Hue get fired because he has an ego. Best record in years with Hue an let go because of ego. Looks like Mark Davis had the biggest ego by over looking facts. The Raiders were not losers the last two years.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Back to Hue I see, ok…… please read carefully.
Hue Jackson overall numbers in 2 years calling the plays here:
24 ppg, placing us just outside the top 10 in the League in 2010/2011.
The year before he got here we averaged 12 ppg, after 2 games without him we’re averaging 13.5
24 ppg while dealing with:
4 different QB’s starting at least 1 game: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missing d 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps s at WR : DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, JLH and TJ Housh.
4 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps at TE: Zach Mller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Rich Gordon.
And he did it while using/transitioning/mixing 2 different primary blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL and in 2011 Hue brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Hue did not have a training camp and a full pre-season to work with as a Rookie HC, players were shuffling in and out of the lineup almost on a weekly basis for his entire tenue, continuity was hard to accomplish with so many injuries and the QB transition.
Yet he still produced an Offense that was this close to a top 10 unit during 2 seasons, even with some rough patches, his unit was only bound to get better in 2012.
By the way, did you know our Defense allowed at least 28 ppg in every loss in 2011? that puts a ton of pressure on the Offense to perform and it’s a factor to be mixed in, a better Defense would have helped Hue’s Offense as well.
- After looking at the facts above, tell me:
Was Hue Jackson a brilliant offensive mind that took an untalented bunch of players and led them to 2 pretty good 2 years overall?.
Or was he just the benficiary of a talented group of players that he rode to success?.
I ask because many people here blame the players for the current offensive woes, they say we barely have any NFL talent at all, they say we need to re-build because these guys can’t play….
So, which is it?.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
YA i like your football takes as you are very smart but letting the Carson thing pass is not something I can agree with…..He is only collecting a check…..look at his body language….he is not fit for the offense….its just too obvious and Knapp told us he would be perfect fit in it…..come on…is perfection a word you would use?
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Might be that Reggie doesn’t care about Carson not fitting with Knapp’s offense because he plans on replacing him after this year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I dont care what kind of personality the HC has. He can he as boisterous Rex Ryan or as soft spoken a Tony Dungy. It just tickles be pink when I hear Hue get fired because he has an ego. Best record in years with Hue an let go because of ego. Looks like Mark Davis had the biggest ego by over looking facts. The Raiders were not losers the last two years.
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Hue needed to be canned….his act here was embarrassing…letting rolando play the miami game was sad
Mark Davis didnt fire hue…Reggie did
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Method To My Madness Says: YES!….OG has spoken…Fk Mucus///////////////I knew we had some serious disagreements and this must be one of them. You must not have been there and watching Marcus, of course not it being LA, but I was. The boy was awesome. C’mon, a running back played 16 years? Most of them very well? That is one of, if not the only major issue I’ve ever had with Al Davis.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Who fired Hue? or Hue fired who?
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Might be that Reggie doesn’t care about Carson not fitting with Knapp’s offense because he plans on replacing him after this year.
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That’s idiocy to the highest level
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Method To My Madness Says: YES!….OG has spoken…Fk Mucus///////////////I knew we had some serious disagreements and this must be one of them. You must not have been there and watching Marcus, of course not it being LA, but I was. The boy was awesome. C’mon, a running back played 16 years? Most of them very well? That is one of, if not the only major issue I’ve ever had with Al Davis.
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Fk Mucus…Al was correct in what he did
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Just to reiterate that all the Raiders needed to do was keep Hue and fix the defense. Look at these Offensive stats.
2011 top 10 offenses:
1.New Orleans Saints
2.New England Patriots
3.Green Bay Packers
4.Philadelphia Eagles
5.Detroit Lions
6.San Diego Chargers
7.Carolina Panthers
8.New York Giants
9.Oakland Raiders
10.Atlanta Falcons
The Eagles D sucked. Panthers D sucked. Chargers D sucked. THE RAIDERS D SUCKED. Every other team made the playoffs.
I see the Eagles improved there D this year and seem to be winning.
Hue had no real control of the defense.
The incompetence of Mark Davis and Reggie is unbelievable.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
U take Hue letting Rolando play more serious than making this team better for two years . Where are you priorities?
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Reggie is looking like a super moron…..he is in over his head as of right now
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Might be that Reggie doesn’t care about Carson not fitting with Knapp’s offense because he plans on replacing him after this year.
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That’s idiocy to the highest level
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He couldn’t exactly get rid of Palmer after Hue traded the farm for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Reggie trades for Flynn.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
The the firing of Hue. Mark indirectly fired Hue. So in truth mark did fire Hue.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
U take Hue letting Rolando play more serious than making this team better for two years . Where are you priorities?
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Al was having some solid drafts setting the team up to be more competitive
Hue’s dumbass Carson trade, Housh for Hagan nonsense, Rolando incident, the choke job down the stretch and then the end of year presser……yeah he should be canned….fk hue
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Might be that Reggie doesn’t care about Carson not fitting with Knapp’s offense because he plans on replacing him after this year.
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That’s idiocy to the highest level
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He couldn’t exactly get rid of Palmer after Hue traded the farm for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Reggie trades for Flynn.
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FLYNN? hahahaha
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
The the firing of Hue. Mark indirectly fired Hue. So in truth mark did fire Hue.
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Whatever he hired a GM so he can focus on owner type schit…Reggie fired Hue…only good thing he done so far except keeping Saunders
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Wow Method!! Tear down the house to find the mouse tactic. I see how you operate.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Wow Method!! Tear down the house to find the mouse tactic. I see how you operate.
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Call it what you want….but when Hue did the buddy system for Palmer and then Housh all within two weeks of each other I wanted him gone then….so whatever bruh…I was consistent on that
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Hankins is a beast at NT, and he can rush the passer. He reminds me of Wilfork.
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We dont need a NT according to most of the bloggers….Seymour and Kelly are super elite
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You and J know better.
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No….SnB and I know better…Jhill doesnt deserve that he was an advocate for those two bums for the longest
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That’s right….. I forgot about that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Only a few mins until the mighty Bruins pound the Beavers into submission
I’m guessing they’ll hold the Beavers down, stick it to them good, then talk crap about how bad they were in the locker room
That’s just how them ballers ball, whut
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
So what if it accelerated cap…not like you doing schit with it anyways…..yeah we locked up Branch and Reece…such elite future HOF players. Good vet presence? What will he provide in a scheme that he sucks in? What is he teaching? You dont rebuild with a QB making that much money at all….thats a damn joke
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Not doing s*** with it? What do you mean? They’re pretty much right up against the cap, even with a lot of the new additions being for close to the vet minimum because of how far over the cap they were to begin the season. And with the restructured contracts, they have more room in future seasons to actually make moves.
I think he’s actually better in this system than he has been in years with a vertical passing game that encourages him to take chances with the football. And by all accounts, he IS a good teacher and a good influence on the younger players. Has plenty of experience and has played at a very high level in the past.
Branch and Reece may not be HOFers, but they’re solid young players that give the Raiders a young nucleus. They already have a lot of positions of need, especially with some of their key players being on the wrong side of 30, so having fewer positions to worry about finding in the draft or free agency certainly helps going forward. And it’s not like these guys got massive contracts. Raiders got these guys young at a pretty reasonable price.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
How many more games before we pull the plug on Knapp? 2-6 more games?
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15-20
Seriously
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Now there’s a fkng ray of sunshine.
20 more games of Knapp. Yikes.
Thanks, JFB.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Hypocrite to the max you are…..you werent willing to wait for JC who was in a new offense and were all about the Bruce Crapkowski schit….now you want us to be patient? Shut up man
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While I wasn’t the biggest Soup fan, you didn’t see me in here sniveling and crying when we lost in Tennessee, asking everybody to be fired and that we would go 0-16.
Bruce came in and gave the team a shot in the arm, until his arm was shot.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Method,I like Hagen but I like Hue better for the team as a whole. Hue made some minor mistake but nothing a revamped defense could not fix. All he would ask for is 1 more year VS the five you and Regggie our asking from us and the Raiders.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Only a few mins until the mighty Bruins pound the Beavers into submission
I’m guessing they’ll hold the Beavers down, stick it to them good, then talk crap about how bad they were in the locker room
That’s just how them ballers ball, whut
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USC traveling to Pasadena this year to face Bruins should be fun…..UCLA people seemed cooler than USC people to me anyhow
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Had to make one more comment-Phuck M.Allen and the horse he rode in on.He shouldn’t be anywhere near this organization.Go back to KC you punk.
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Why would you blame Marcus?
Al tried to destroy his career. Was Marcus just supposed to sit and do nothing?
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
The the firing of Hue. Mark indirectly fired Hue. So in truth mark did fire Hue.
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Mark hired reggie. that’s it. nothing else. everything after tht was reggies dedcision
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Hue had no real control of the defense.
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Al died after a quarter of the season.
Hue said he knew after week 2 the defense stunk. With Al gone, and the team heading into a bye, you saying he couldn’t have done SOMETHING?
Not that anything would have necessarily worked, but he couldn’t have got Chuck B out of there and promoted within?
Doing nothing assures that nothing will change.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
So what if it accelerated cap…not like you doing schit with it anyways…..yeah we locked up Branch and Reece…such elite future HOF players. Good vet presence? What will he provide in a scheme that he sucks in? What is he teaching? You dont rebuild with a QB making that much money at all….thats a damn joke
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Not doing s*** with it? What do you mean? They’re pretty much right up against the cap, even with a lot of the new additions being for close to the vet minimum because of how far over the cap they were to begin the season. And with the restructured contracts, they have more room in future seasons to actually make moves.
I think he’s actually better in this system than he has been in years with a vertical passing game that encourages him to take chances with the football. And by all accounts, he IS a good teacher and a good influence on the younger players. Has plenty of experience and has played at a very high level in the past.
Branch and Reece may not be HOFers, but they’re solid young players that give the Raiders a young nucleus. They already have a lot of positions of need, especially with some of their key players being on the wrong side of 30, so having fewer positions to worry about finding in the draft or free agency certainly helps going forward. And it’s not like these guys got massive contracts. Raiders got these guys young at a pretty reasonable price.
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A good influence after he quit? Yeah sure a great lesson he teaching young Qbs when things dont go well
Palmer is not a short passing dink and dunk QB….I dont know where you get this BS from that he is better in a system he already failed in life….it doesnt fit him why you think the crossing routes and aint hitting for schit? Not his strong suit at all man. Go look into what is needed for a WCO qb and Palmer will never show up in the description
Branch is a little above avg and Reece is avg….evidenced by how Knapp uses him lol
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Serious question for the Krapp supporters…
Do any of you actually believe this guy is a top notch OC and play caller ?
If so, what do you base this on ?
If not, give me a valid reason why we should settle for Krapp.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Back to Hue I see, ok…… please read carefully.
Hue Jackson overall numbers in 2 years calling the plays here:
24 ppg, placing us just outside the top 10 in the League in 2010/2011.
The year before he got here we averaged 12 ppg, after 2 games without him we’re averaging 13.5
24 ppg while dealing with:
4 different QB’s starting at least 1 game: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missing d 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps s at WR : DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, JLH and TJ Housh.
4 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps at TE: Zach Mller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Rich Gordon.
And he did it while using/transitioning/mixing 2 different primary blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL and in 2011 Hue brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Hue did not have a training camp and a full pre-season to work with as a Rookie HC, players were shuffling in and out of the lineup almost on a weekly basis for his entire tenue, continuity was hard to accomplish with so many injuries and the QB transition.
Yet he still produced an Offense that was this close to a top 10 unit during 2 seasons, even with some rough patches, his unit was only bound to get better in 2012.
By the way, did you know our Defense allowed at least 28 ppg in every loss in 2011? that puts a ton of pressure on the Offense to perform and it’s a factor to be mixed in, a better Defense would have helped Hue’s Offense as well.
- After looking at the facts above, tell me:
Was Hue Jackson a brilliant offensive mind that took an untalented bunch of players and led them to 2 pretty good 2 years overall?.
Or was he just the benficiary of a talented group of players that he rode to success?.
I ask because many people here blame the players for the current offensive woes, they say we barely have any NFL talent at all, they say we need to re-build because these guys can’t play….
So, which is it?.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Still no answer….
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
When did Carter become Pedro Serrano?
Dude is seeing nothing but offspeed pitches and bailing and flailing.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Excellent posts Bob.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
The offense was not broke, but McKenzie decided to “rebuild it anyway. Ford, Moore, Heyward-Bey, Reece, McFadden, Wiz, and Veldheer are all highly tallented players who every team in the league would like to have on there roster. The offense was good, and not that far from being elite. All that was need was a little tinkering on the offense and a better defense. The defense has several very good players as well, but does/did have some holes that need(ed) filling. Knapp pleads for patients. Well I don’t have any choice since I have no say in the decision. Maybe after they get it all together they will be pretty good. I hope so, but this rebuilding was unnecessary.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Only a few mins until the mighty Bruins pound the Beavers into submission
I’m guessing they’ll hold the Beavers down, stick it to them good, then talk crap about how bad they were in the locker room
That’s just how them ballers ball, whut
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USC traveling to Pasadena this year to face Bruins should be fun…..UCLA people seemed cooler than USC people to me anyhow
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Yo, USC is straight up wack, but their sorority babes give sweet hummers
Mora is bringing a championship to Westwood in the next 5 years, and the Beeech Dawg will have the most legendary Penthouse Jam in history
Troy Aikman rocking the beer bong like the good ol days
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Was Hue Jackson a brilliant offensive mind that took an untalented bunch of players and led them to 2 pretty good 2 years overall?.
Or was he just the benficiary of a talented group of players that he rode to success?.
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Why does it have to be one extreme or another?
Hue was clearly a talented OC, but he was in over his head as a HC, and the team was progressively getting worse as they went along.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
A good influence after he quit? Yeah sure a great lesson he teaching young Qbs when things dont go well
Palmer is not a short passing dink and dunk QB….I dont know where you get this BS from that he is better in a system he already failed in life….it doesnt fit him why you think the crossing routes and aint hitting for schit? Not his strong suit at all man. Go look into what is needed for a WCO qb and Palmer will never show up in the description
Branch is a little above avg and Reece is avg….evidenced by how Knapp uses him lol
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He quit on a franchise whose idea of “helping him” was giving him The TO and Ocho Show. I can’t fault him for being sick of that circus. In Oakland, he’s showed up every day, worked hard, and is a smart veteran. Hard to think of another player in the league available to the Raiders who would be a better player in the short term, and mentor in the long-term. And again, the cost of cutting him loose would hinder the Raiders in the short AND long-term.
The crossing routes aren’t hitting because the WRs aren’t getting separation – if we’re talking about players who aren’t fits for the WCO, DHB would be at the top of that list.
But Palmer’s accuracy on short and intermediate passes is still good – it’s his downfield accuracy (and decision-making on long balls) that is questionable. Moreover, he’s always been a better spot thrower than anything else. He makes passes trusting his WRs to be in position. The Raider WRs aren’t exactly polished route-runners, though. Moore is the best they have route-running wise, and he’s been hurt.
Branch is well above average and Reece is a matchup nightmare who, in my opinion, hasn’t been used nearly enough over the past two seasons. Again, gotta get good young players locked up early so you can focus on other areas of the team that have huge holes.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Granderson has a noodle arm.
Never understood having a CF without an arm.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
With Hue it was a simple equation for keeping him around before making a change. Win next year you keep your job and anything less we make whole house changes. What was Marks Davis big hurry for change without one more chance with Hue? That is what disturbs more than the hiring of Reggie and DA.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
“The offense was not broke, but McKenzie decided to “rebuild it anyway”.”
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No, DA did and brought Knapp to do it, once Reggie saw the direction they decided to go he made some moves designed to help them, that’s what a GM is supposed to do.
It’s not on Reggie, if DA decided to go another direction and hire somebody else, say a Mike Martz…Reggie’s moves would have been aimed at finding players to fit that system.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I hope so, but this rebuilding was unnecessary.
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The rebuilding would have had to happen one way or another with the unsustainable financial situation. And with Al gone, someone needed to finally bring the franchise into the modern era.
If I had to choose between Reggie McKenzie and Hue Jackson? I’m choosing the guy with front office experience who has seen how winning organizations operate.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Mckenzie and hue share the same agent and are friends. Mckenzie thought he had a HC already just needed a DC
Mark had Mckenzie fire hue as his first thing to do as GM. Either way Mckenzie didnt care cuz he was getting a job of a lifetime.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Disgusted Armidillo Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Had to make one more comment-Phuck M.Allen and the horse he rode in on.He shouldn’t be anywhere near this organization.Go back to KC you punk.
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Why would you blame Marcus?
Al tried to destroy his career. Was Marcus just supposed to sit and do nothing?
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What? Al tried to save him…Al saw that you needed two stud RBs and Mucus acted like a bz…Mucus was highest paid player on team still and still got more carries than Bo….Mucus also layin into everyone’s woman which Al warned him about and in that smug attitude of his he shunned Al….Mucus got what he deserved
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Was Hue Jackson a brilliant offensive mind that took an untalented bunch of players and led them to 2 pretty good 2 years overall?.
Or was he just the benficiary of a talented group of players that he rode to success?.
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Why does it have to be one extreme or another?
Hue was clearly a talented OC, but he was in over his head as a HC, and the team was progressively getting worse as they went along.
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Because that’s how people are making it out to be, that post was about Hue’s Offense not about his Head Coaching skills, many peoole keep saying Hue’s Offense sucked.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Win next year you keep your job and anything less we make whole house changes. What was Marks Davis big hurry for change without one more chance with Hue?
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That is a fair point and/or question, but one can argue that he already got the ultimatum, called the end of 2011.
He had to win 1 of his last two home games and he makes the playoffs and definitely keeps his job.
He lost both, botching the Lions game by failing to go for 2 in a completely amateur move.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hue said he knew after week 2 the defense stunk. With Al gone, and the team heading into a bye, you saying he couldn’t have done SOMETHING?
Not that anything would have necessarily worked, but he couldn’t have got Chuck B out of there and promoted within?
Doing nothing assures that nothing will change.
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OK, let me get this straight…
Hue should have canned Brez when AD kicked, bcz he knew the D sucked after week 2.
How long should DA or RM wait to can GK ?
If the offense continues to suck for another 2 games, will that be enough of doing nothing for you ?
When do you propose canning Krappy if the offense still blows ?
Saving a seat for you on the can Krapp bus.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Serious question for the Krapp supporters…
Do any of you actually believe this guy is a top notch OC and play caller ?
If so, what do you base this on ?
If not, give me a valid reason why we should settle for Krapp.
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You wont get one reasonable post from the Knapp defenders
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says: Fk Mucus…Al was correct in what he did. ////////Guess we’re gonna have to agree to disagree. By the way, are you old enough to have seen hin play?
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
many peoole keep saying Hue’s Offense sucked.
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Don’t pay attention to the fringe element in here man.
Hue’s offense didn’t “suck” but it was not as good as people seem to make it out to be at times.
He had quite a few stinkers, and a very sluggish start to his Raider resume.
Things picked up with him, and I think it will pick up with Knapp.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Maybe Seymour gets ejected tomorrow for a cheap shot on Big Ben?
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Seymour may be out (knee). And knapp still needs to turn the play calling and schemes over to Saunder and Palmer.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
A good influence after he quit? Yeah sure a great lesson he teaching young Qbs when things dont go well
Palmer is not a short passing dink and dunk QB….I dont know where you get this BS from that he is better in a system he already failed in life….it doesnt fit him why you think the crossing routes and aint hitting for schit? Not his strong suit at all man. Go look into what is needed for a WCO qb and Palmer will never show up in the description
Branch is a little above avg and Reece is avg….evidenced by how Knapp uses him lol
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He quit on a franchise whose idea of “helping him” was giving him The TO and Ocho Show. I can’t fault him for being sick of that circus. In Oakland, he’s showed up every day, worked hard, and is a smart veteran. Hard to think of another player in the league available to the Raiders who would be a better player in the short term, and mentor in the long-term. And again, the cost of cutting him loose would hinder the Raiders in the short AND long-term.
The crossing routes aren’t hitting because the WRs aren’t getting separation – if we’re talking about players who aren’t fits for the WCO, DHB would be at the top of that list.
But Palmer’s accuracy on short and intermediate passes is still good – it’s his downfield accuracy (and decision-making on long balls) that is questionable. Moreover, he’s always been a better spot thrower than anything else. He makes passes trusting his WRs to be in position. The Raider WRs aren’t exactly polished route-runners, though. Moore is the best they have route-running wise, and he’s been hurt.
Branch is well above average and Reece is a matchup nightmare who, in my opinion, hasn’t been used nearly enough over the past two seasons. Again, gotta get good young players locked up early so you can focus on other areas of the team that have huge holes.
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You whole post has been killed after the first sentence….guess who asked and lobbied for the TO and Ocho show? Thanks….redo your post then we can talk
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
WIth knapp.. u already know how this show will go.
Back to back 4-12 seasons
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
How long should DA or RM wait to can GK ?
If the offense continues to suck for another 2 games, will that be enough of doing nothing for you ?
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If the offense doesn’t improve by the first game after the bye, I will take you up on that seat.
But it will, so let’s not even waste our time with that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I liked Hue’s style of offense, but I can’t forget the stretch of 6 games without a 2nd quarter touchdown, and the fact that Reece and Boss completely disappeared from the gameplan for entire games at a time.
Like JFB said – Hue didn’t suck. But his offense wasn’t what some here make it out to be.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
If knapp was such a good ‘instructor’, our offense would have learned his bs scheme by now. We’re 32nd in the league. Can’t do better than that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says: Fk Mucus…Al was correct in what he did. ////////Guess we’re gonna have to agree to disagree. By the way, are you old enough to have seen hin play?
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My…this is when you know someone has nada they go to age bs……I seen Mucus play live and direct…..in his LA days when he was top RB no…but what the fk does that have with any fking thing? I never said he wasnt a great player did? I said fk him and I’m with Al on this
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Regardless of many that wanted Hue gone it would have been only a one year proposition. Many bring up the senario you mentioned but it was just an oil change with Hue VS and engine exchange with Reggie/DA
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Ok method, chillax a bit. I enjoyed watching him, is all.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/06/carson-palmer-wants-bengals-to-sign-terrell-owens/
Let’s blame Cincy for putting Palmer into the TO and Ocho show
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Do you not think that Reggie, when interviewing for a HC, wanted to find a coach with the same systems and strategies as what he envisioned? I’m sure Allen’s plan is within Reggie’s vision ofa style of football he wants “his” team to play.
Old navy shirt wearing lame ass take a knapp offensive football.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Hi Everyone.
I’m a big Raider fan. Even tho Knapp has castrated our offense, they’ll grow a new pair for him. That’s just how it works. Be patient.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
LOL at Ibanez.
What ever happened to defense in baseball? That was a can of corn!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
My post was directed @570
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000047300/article/carson-palmer-gives-terrell-owens-a-good-reference
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More cincy proof they screwed palmer with TO
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
And most that aren’t old enough are the ones to trash Al first. So, method, and I know I’m the first to say this, you are a bit of an anomaly.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Oakglen Says:
I’m a big Raider fan. Even tho Knapp has castrated our offense, they’ll grow a new pair for him. That’s just how it works. Be patient./////////How long does it take? and how long do they grow.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
How long should DA or RM wait to can GK ?
If the offense continues to suck for another 2 games, will that be enough of doing nothing for you ?
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If the offense doesn’t improve by the first game after the bye, I will take you up on that seat.
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Would you prefer a window or aisle seat ?
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Knapp Time Offense….the KTO
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Raiderman99 you are becoming too funny now….we use to really dislike each other but im becoming to like you as you diss the KTO and the SBS
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
24 hrs till game time.
R the Raiders gonna play another stinker.. or are they gonna step up?
More excuses on Mondays presser ?? More “WE JUST GOTTA DO THIS and DO THAT ” talk from the players. More Allen telling the media how good the steelers are??
Fck win a game coach
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
And most that aren’t old enough are the ones to trash Al first. So, method, and I know I’m the first to say this, you are a bit of an anomaly.
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No one on this blog or planet Earth has enough to trash Al
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
2romes Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Regardless of many that wanted Hue gone it would have been only a one year proposition. Many bring up the senario you mentioned but it was just an oil change with Hue VS and engine exchange with Reggie/DA
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What I do not understand is:
1 We had all the peices in place to improve, especially if we just kept Hue and Bush
2 Is knapps system really gonna work? Really? He does not strike it up as a guru of any type. Does he?
3 My biggest fear when Dear Al passed was we going to be another vanilla team amongst the 31 others. No more ‘The Raider Way’. We were not that far off last year. Just a DC. And Hue is not to blame for the 3 out of 4 losses at the end of last season. It was the defense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
JFB and YA.
You two are reasonable posters but there are extreme postures taken on both sides of the Hue-Knapp-Offense debate.
“Like JFB said – Hue didn’t suck. But his offense wasn’t what some here make it out to be.”.
Only a top 12 unit when combining both seasons, nothing more and nothing less.
What most of the Hue haters fail to acknowledge are the circumstances surrounding Hue’s tenure, starting with injuries and shuffling of lineups almost on a weekly basis for 2 years to a lack of Defensive help.
When Hue’s Offense found some consistency at QB and had a healthy McFadden, like weeks 1 to 5 of 2012, we averaged 27.2 ppg.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Serious question for the Krapp supporters…
Do any of you actually believe this guy is a top notch OC and play caller ?
If so, what do you base this on ?
If not, give me a valid reason why we should settle for Krapp.
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You wont get one reasonable post from the Knapp defenders
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Looks like you’re right, B.
Crickets.
None of you Krapp supporters want to go to bat for him ?
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
24 hrs till game time.
R the Raiders gonna play another stinker.. or are they gonna step up?
More excuses on Mondays presser ?? More “WE JUST GOTTA DO THIS and DO THAT ” talk from the players. More Allen telling the media how good the steelers are??
Fck win a game coach
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LOL i hear ya…I dont wanna hear Allen’s needle dk excuses Monday
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
You whole post has been killed after the first sentence….guess who asked and lobbied for the TO and Ocho show? Thanks….redo your post then we can talk
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Do you remember why the Bengals signed TO in the first place? A) They failed to draft any other WR who could make an impact, and B) the guy they chose to make their marquee signing at WR was Antonio Bryant. TO was the best option at that point. You don’t think that’s a circus? Having to rely on two loud-mouthed guys with declining talent because your franchise has failed to put any playmakers around you?
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Just came across this for all you Knapp believers.
http://www.knapp_apologists_unite.org/stop-the-dissent%%allsackhuggersmuststicktogether
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Alright Blog Brahs, just limbering up for a little beach volleyball game on Mission Bay
Used to play at UCLA, had to retire early because my weiner grew too big to fit in our regulation shorts
Already got a few honies scoping me out, probably get their cell #s then dry hump them later at the after show party in the suite
We got a cooler full of Lowenbraus so you know this game will be HELLA POPPIN’
MO FIZZLE IN MY SWIZZLE
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I remember it being sad watching Palmer have to hope Ocho, Chris Henry, Antonio Bryant and TO ever amounted to anything while the AFC North just continued to get tougher.
Again – when your team doesn’t draft talent to put around you, that’s what you have to resort to. And it worked out the only way it could have.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
In the same day me and Beecher agree on something and now Raiderman99 and I are……hell has frozen over
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Im reading the steelers message board and they say they want to air it out quick. They know our secondary sucks.
They are hoping to get a lead right away and establish run game. They do give up to our front 4 and say we are physical and its gonna be a dog fight. They think DMAC can rip off a long run w/o harrison playin or Troy.
They say they dont play well going west and will play down to their oppenent.
Allen needs to come up with a good gameplan and lets put these queerlers on the plane back to PITT with a L
Tom cable was great with pregame speechers.. I hope Allen has his ready
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
You whole post has been killed after the first sentence….guess who asked and lobbied for the TO and Ocho show? Thanks….redo your post then we can talk
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Do you remember why the Bengals signed TO in the first place? A) They failed to draft any other WR who could make an impact, and B) the guy they chose to make their marquee signing at WR was Antonio Bryant. TO was the best option at that point. You don’t think that’s a circus? Having to rely on two loud-mouthed guys with declining talent because your franchise has failed to put any playmakers around you?
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Palmer lobbied in March of 2010 for TO lol
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Pitt:
Mike Adams
Questionable
Jonathan Dwyer
Probable
Marcus Gilbert
Probable
James Harrison
Out
Byron Leftwich
Probable
Rashard Mendenhall
Out
Heath Miller
Probable
Troy Polamalu
Out
Emmanuel Sanders
Probable
Stevenson Sylvester
Out
Mike Wallace
Probable
OAK:
David Ausberry
Questionable
Khalif Barnes
Out
Juron Criner
Probable
Coye Francies
Questionable
Mike Goodson
Questionable
Sebastian Janikowski
Questionable
Taiwan Jones
Questionable
Rolando McClain
Questionable
Alex Parsons
Questionable
Richard Seymour
Questionable
Shawntae Spencer
Out
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
“The offense was not broke, but McKenzie decided to “rebuild it anyway”.”
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No, DA did and brought Knapp to do it, once Reggie saw the direction they decided to go he made some moves designed to help them, that’s what a GM is supposed to do.
It’s not on Reggie, if DA decided to go another direction and hire somebody else, say a Mike Martz…Reggie’s moves would have been aimed at finding players to fit that system.
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Do you not think that Reggie, when interviewing for a HC, wanted to find a coach with the same systems and strategies as what he envisioned? I’m sure Allen’s plan is within Reggie’s vision ofa style of football he wants “his” team to play.
Old navy shirt wearing lame ass take a knapp offensive football.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Good luck Raider Nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Palmer lobbied in March of 2010 for TO lol
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Yes, that was the same month they signed Bryant.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Beecher ever got stuck in one of them sorority houses in Westwood when it was just you and a few of the big sisters eggin on a freshman girl rushing in her first semester and her task is to fk you like a pornstar? Aw did I ever love driving down the 405 from CSUN in those days
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Palmer lobbied in March of 2010 for TO lol
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Yes, that was the same month they signed Bryant.
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Yep….and Palmer wanted the circus to come to town so to blame bengals for meeting his demands is crazy….Palmer has been a loser in his career but he is in a no win position in the KTO
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
…………….no win position in the KTO
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Whats the KTO? knapp travesty offense?
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Beech my dude..i gotta hit up one of ur partys bro. I got mad reggae on deck too.
See what some of them hoes u bee talkin bout
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
OAK:
David Ausberry
Questionable(hope he plays)
Khalif Barnes
Out(stay away)
Juron Criner
Probable(God please we need our best natural WR)
Coye Francies
Questionable(Who cares)
Mike Goodson
Questionable(we need your recieving skills as we dink and dunk)
Sebastian Janikowski
Questionable(give him some E and he will play0
Taiwan Jones
Questionable(who cares0
Rolando McClain
Questionable(whatever…give him a gun)
Alex Parsons
Questionable(who cares)
Richard Seymour
Questionable(So is heart effort)
Shawntae Spencer
Out(49er trash)
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13032648-raiders-should-turn-to-pryor-if-losing-ways-continue
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There’s been a lot of talk about it on this board, but this is one of the 1st times I’ve seen it in print. Very well written.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Chris Carter sucks now…..my god now Reddick up and he almost got hit by first pitch….wish he did
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
What most of the Hue haters fail to acknowledge are the circumstances surrounding Hue’s tenure, starting with injuries and shuffling of lineups almost on a weekly basis for 2 years to a lack of Defensive help.
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Well, that sounds EXACTLY like the first two weeks of this season.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Alright my Raider fam.. Im off to watch that movie END OF WATCH..
looks like training day.. I’ll let yall know how it is.
Be easy
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Reddick is pull happy, trying to play hero ball.
I only get the Yankee’s feed right now, and Michael Kay said the A’s pinch-hitters are hitting .295 this season which is best in baseball.
Props to Melvin for that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
the closest beech dawg ever gets to a female is when he parades around the apartment in pumps and a skirt
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Where has Dell been?
I didn’t see his weekly FFL newsletter the first two weeks this year, which I would probably pay for.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
“The offense was not broke, but McKenzie decided to “rebuild it anyway”.”
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Bob Marley says:
No, DA did and brought Knapp to do it, once Reggie saw the direction they decided to go he made some moves designed to help them, that’s what a GM is supposed to do.
It’s not on Reggie, if DA decided to go another direction and hire somebody else, say a Mike Martz…Reggie’s moves would have been aimed at finding players to fit that system.
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Do you not think that Reggie, when interviewing for a HC, wanted to find a coach with the same systems and strategies as what he envisioned? I’m sure Allen’s plan is within Reggie’s vision ofa style of football he wants “his” team to play.
Old navy shirt wearing lame ass take a knapp offensive football.
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Carl.
You make a good point and it’s my understanding that Reggie joined DA during Knapp’s interview, I think Knapp mentioned Reggie being there…but McKenzie had no ties to Knapp and probably felt it was in their best interest to allow DA to go with his first and only choice.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
It is easy to write BS on a blog as is proven here hourly.I have not read one comment saying Jackson’s offense sucked.I have read numerous excuses as to why Jackson failed.Marley,why won’t you address the fact we were outscored almost 2-1 in the 2nd half of games when Hue was coach-even when everyone was healthy?I haven’t read one comment from anyone saying they like Knapp.A few have said you shouldn’t make judgements based on 2 weeks and get slammed and called Knapp apologists which is wrong .Will Knapp’s offense get better-we shall see.History says it might not.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Yep….and Palmer wanted the circus to come to town so to blame bengals for meeting his demands is crazy….
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The Bengals were already talking with TO and Bryant when Palmer asked them to come aboard. Again, this was late in free agency, after his #2 target Chris Henry had died just months before. All the Bengals had at this point was OchoCinco, and considering the Bengals’ reputation for being stingy I can’t blame Palmer for trying to recruit the few free agents the Bengals even considered bringing in.
What I can blame the Bengals for being an absolute disaster for Palmer’s entire tenure. Simultaneously funny and sad how much the drafting improved the minute Palmer was effectively out of the picture.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Taiwan Jones
Questionable(who cares
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Raises hand.
Still have high hopes for the Tai-stick.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
What most of the Hue haters fail to acknowledge are the circumstances surrounding Hue’s tenure, starting with injuries and shuffling of lineups almost on a weekly basis for 2 years to a lack of Defensive help.
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Well, that sounds EXACTLY like the first two weeks of this season.
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Except fot the fact that we have a fully healthy McFadden and a football-ready Carson Palmer leading the Offense, something Hue never had.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Taiwan Jones is better fit since he’s east-west type of runner.. Why don’t we just have a hybrid O-line fit for everyone.. blaah
Damn Gannon was good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGHDa0rJGw
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Balfour’s high-wire is on……
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Debo….that guy ripped Palmer a new one…but remember all last year and even through spring we heard he was elite…its obvious he is not lol
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Alex Smith @CockyAlexSmith
WTF! Some fat ass working at Taco Bell walked up to me & begged me to tell him my secret. I was like “JaMarcus Russell? Long time no see!”
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September 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Balfour’s high-wire is on……
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3-2….he gotta get ibanez now
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Yo, the Beeech Diggity’s island-smooth reggae band Rasta Ganja is playing a VIP show tonight in Mission Beach
All Blog Brahs are invited but you gotta bring a bag of spliffs and enough V8 for Bloody Marys in the AM
Genital, I used to bang shorties from CSUN when we were killin’ it in the 818
Most UCLA babes were Asian which was cool with the Beeech Diggity but my weiner always smelled like Kung Pao for a week
USC gots the women and that’s about it, holla
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Method To My Madness Says: No one on this blog or planet Earth has enough to trash Al………….
Amen.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Bob,
Why do we just assume McFadden is “fully healthy”?
He doesn’t look like it, looks winded at the end of games, and is coming off a Lis Franc injury that is a near career ender for some RB’s.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Yep….and Palmer wanted the circus to come to town so to blame bengals for meeting his demands is crazy….
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The Bengals were already talking with TO and Bryant when Palmer asked them to come aboard. Again, this was late in free agency, after his #2 target Chris Henry had died just months before. All the Bengals had at this point was OchoCinco, and considering the Bengals’ reputation for being stingy I can’t blame Palmer for trying to recruit the few free agents the Bengals even considered bringing in.
What I can blame the Bengals for being an absolute disaster for Palmer’s entire tenure. Simultaneously funny and sad how much the drafting improved the minute Palmer was effectively out of the picture.
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Yeah funny….rookie qb with red hair takes them to playoffs and they also fleece us for palmer
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Yo, the Beeech Diggity’s island-smooth reggae band Rasta Ganja is playing a VIP show tonight in Mission Beach
All Blog Brahs are invited but you gotta bring a bag of spliffs and enough V8 for Bloody Marys in the AM
Genital, I used to bang shorties from CSUN when we were killin’ it in the 818
Most UCLA babes were Asian which was cool with the Beeech Diggity but my weiner always smelled like Kung Pao for a week
USC gots the women and that’s about it, holla
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LA has women period but UCLA overall was cooler campus….Asian chicks are cool bruh…I use to knock down bzies from both schools but UCLA girls werent sports groupies like USC ones
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Beecher…the 818 was easiest lambo session ever…no surprise to touched down in the valley
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
the closest beech dawg ever gets to a female is when he parades around the apartment in pumps and a skirt
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Peemore Bust, you’re the kind of dude who loved Party of 5. Just admit it
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
More importantly……who is going to take home the coveted Maloof trophy tonight?
You got a line on the UNM-NMSU game 99? Last week the Lobo’s managed to push the +35.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
We going to extra inning in the Bronx again! Can the A’s prevail this time? I think so
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Yeah funny….rookie qb with red hair takes them to playoffs and they also fleece us for palmer
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No argument there. Dalton and AJ Green are absolute studs. And thank god that the reports of the second pick in that deal being a conditional 1st rounder were false.
I had no problem with trading for Palmer, but Hue really set the Raiders’ back with what he gave up. Most Bengals should have gotten was a couple 2nd rounders, and even that’s pretty steep for an over-30 QB.
But Hue wanted to “win now” (and in turn, save his job). Didn’t work out that way. Raiders didn’t have enough talent to begin with, and Carson Palmer wasn’t going to be able to fix that on his own.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
More importantly……who is going to take home the coveted Maloof trophy tonight?
You got a line on the UNM-NMSU game 99? Last week the Lobo’s managed to push the +35.
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Woooooo dont know…I cheated of my CS Fullerton bz with one of her sorority sisters who was from NMSU…..it was so inspiring so I’m gonna roll with the aggies….yeah B@uce letting that decide for him lol
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Yo, the Beeech Diggity’s island-smooth reggae band Rasta Ganja is playing a VIP show tonight in Mission Beach
All Blog Brahs are invited but you gotta bring a bag of spliffs and enough V8 for Bloody Marys in the AM
Genital, I used to bang shorties from CSUN when we were killin’ it in the 818
Most UCLA babes were Asian which was cool with the Beeech Diggity but my weiner always smelled like Kung Pao for a week
USC gots the women and that’s about it, holla
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LA has women period but UCLA overall was cooler campus….Asian chicks are cool bruh…I use to knock down bzies from both schools but UCLA girls werent sports groupies like USC ones
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LOL, two biggest blog tools lying to each other about girls.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
on*
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Chico & B,
More football less Baseball MFers. please.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
USC had the only shorties the Beeech Diggity would go strictly bareback on
However there was this milk chocolate hizzy who used to get faded with Keyshawn Johnson and let him do her in the rectum
Yo, you know the Magnums had to come out for that trick, holla
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Yo, the Beeech Diggity’s island-smooth reggae band Rasta Ganja is playing a VIP show tonight in Mission Beach
All Blog Brahs are invited but you gotta bring a bag of spliffs and enough V8 for Bloody Marys in the AM
Genital, I used to bang shorties from CSUN when we were killin’ it in the 818
Most UCLA babes were Asian which was cool with the Beeech Diggity but my weiner always smelled like Kung Pao for a week
USC gots the women and that’s about it, holla
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LA has women period but UCLA overall was cooler campus….Asian chicks are cool bruh…I use to knock down bzies from both schools but UCLA girls werent sports groupies like USC ones
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LOL, two biggest blog tools lying to each other about girls.
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Sorry but a few bloggers on here can already attest to the fact that the B@uce gets major chose…..dont blame me for God making me a good looking man….take it up with him
KlasMR…how is Sac treatin ya?
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Im reading the steelers message board and they say they want to air it out quick. They know our secondary sucks.
They are hoping to get a lead right away and establish run game. They do give up to our front 4 and say we are physical and its gonna be a dog fight. They think DMAC can rip off a long run w/o harrison playin or Troy.
They say they dont play well going west and will play down to their oppenent.
Allen needs to come up with a good gameplan and lets put these queerlers on the plane back to PITT with a L
Tom cable was great with pregame speechers.. I hope Allen has his ready
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Here’s Allens “inspirational” speech for tomorrow:
“We’ve got a game today that’s no different from any other. We don’t wanna get too high or too low; stay the course. You need to emphasize execution of the gameplan and perform to the best of your abilities. Executing the gameplan and playing sound, fundamental football will allow us to have the best opportunity for success today”.
You know…one of those Knute Rockne type deals.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
beech dawg please come home to daddy
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Go Padres!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Las Cruces (where NMSU is) has a suprising amount of decent looking chicks in their small little college area.
I think you get some decent chop come in from the rural Texas areas that want to be in the AG business.
UNM relies on mostly local talent.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
USC had the only shorties the Beeech Diggity would go strictly bareback on
However there was this milk chocolate hizzy who used to get faded with Keyshawn Johnson and let him do her in the rectum
Yo, you know the Magnums had to come out for that trick, holla
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Raw dog no USC groupies? my my you got courage Beecher
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
JFB,Melvin should be Manager of the year but I have a hunch the Eastern media will give it to Buck.At least he is also deserving.
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Yo, the Beeech Diggity’s island-smooth reggae band Rasta Ganja is playing a VIP show tonight in Mission Beach
All Blog Brahs are invited but you gotta bring a bag of spliffs and enough V8 for Bloody Marys in the AM
Genital, I used to bang shorties from CSUN when we were killin’ it in the 818
Most UCLA babes were Asian which was cool with the Beeech Diggity but my weiner always smelled like Kung Pao for a week
USC gots the women and that’s about it, holla
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LA has women period but UCLA overall was cooler campus….Asian chicks are cool bruh…I use to knock down bzies from both schools but UCLA girls werent sports groupies like USC ones
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LOL, two biggest blog tools lying to each other about girls.
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Albert Bigelo Klas, does your mother know you’ve snuck onto her computer again to blog as a flaming Swedish dude
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Las Cruces (where NMSU is) has a suprising amount of decent looking chicks in their small little college area.
I think you get some decent chop come in from the rural Texas areas that want to be in the AG business.
UNM relies on mostly local talent.
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Yeah i can see that….she definitely repped the talent circuit of the area
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
JFB,Melvin should be Manager of the year but I have a hunch the Eastern media will give it to Buck.At least he is also deserving.
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He pisses me off too at times….sometimes this summer he left out pitchers too long knowing we got a great BP
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
PacMan is a beast for the O’s.
I am a firm believer that a beastly CF can be maybe the 2nd or 3rd most differential position in all of sports.
Behind a QB and maybe NBA C.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Yo, Hundley is the REAL DEAL
You see that 70 yd bomb diggity?
Yo, expect homie in SILVER n BLACK when the Raiders open up at Farmer’s Field in 2015
Remember I already got my private luxury box with special PARTYDUDE 8000 attachment reserved
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Raider O Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Chico & B,
More football less Baseball MFers. please.
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OK what football do u wanna discuss? The Raiders dont play real football for damn sure the KTO/SBS of knapp is to thank for it
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Maybe so,B,but he has done one hell of a job.The problem is so has Buck.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Sorry but a few bloggers on here can already attest to the fact that the B@uce gets major chose…..dont blame me for God making me a good looking man….take it up with him
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I agree you are sexy boy. Beeech, though, has never been with women he did not pay for.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
It is going to be tough to beat-out Buck, especially since he was part of the media for sometime.
Can’t really go wrong with either, IMO.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
JFB.
There are no injury reports on McFadden, I’m not assuming anything…claiming he may not be healhty without any evidence would be assuming, right?.
I’m out now.
As always, go Raiders…beat Pitt and we’ll go from there, lots of football still to be played, just take it 1 game at the time and if SD loses to Atl we’re 1 game back.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Hundley and that RB are the real deal for UCLA….but my young lil patna Aaron Hester is who I want on Raiders….his dad Al Hester is a big Raider guy….yes I know the family….hisdad went to LB State with my dad and Aaron played football as Carson with my brother for years….great kid
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Sorry but a few bloggers on here can already attest to the fact that the B@uce gets major chose…..dont blame me for God making me a good looking man….take it up with him
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I agree you are sexy boy. Beeech, though, has never been with women he did not pay for.
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You’re cut off…dont speak to me anymore
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
beech dawg is broke. he can’t pay for anything. i have to
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Agreed JFB.That is the problem I have with Crisp.You could go to any high school in the country and find a couple of guys with better arms.His noodle has cost the A’s a few times this year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
And McFadden looked explosive during pre-season didn’t he?.
Enjoy your weekend fellas.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
There are no injury reports on McFadden, I’m not assuming anything…claiming he may not be healhty without any evidence would be assuming, right?.
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Not as much as an injury, as he doesn’t quite have his legs under him yet after missing a half of a season.
Also, not sure the post Lis Franc McFadden at 100% is the same as the pre Lis Franc McFadden at 100%.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Maybe so,B,but he has done one hell of a job.The problem is so has Buck.
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I’d give it to Buck because Beane has done this before…Orioles aint been schit since Clinton was in office…to be in hot contention with the Yankees is crazy….just crazy
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Lefty,
Why don’t they play Cespedes at CF more? These Yankee’s announcers have been drolling over him all weekend (and he has hosed two guys with his arm this series)?
Crisp has been a plus at the top of the lineup, but trot him out to LF or hell even DH him if you must.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
There are no injury reports on McFadden, I’m not assuming anything…claiming he may not be healhty without any evidence would be assuming, right?.
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Not as much as an injury, as he doesn’t quite have his legs under him yet after missing a half of a season.
Also, not sure the post Lis Franc McFadden at 100% is the same as the pre Lis Franc McFadden at 100%.
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No do Pre-SBS and Post SBS…thats even more accurate
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Have a parlay card that has NMS -6.5 over NM.
Last week the line on NM dropped to +33.5. Just enough not to cover.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Agreed JFB.That is the problem I have with Crisp.You could go to any high school in the country and find a couple of guys with better arms.His noodle has cost the A’s a few times this year.
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But his glove work and clutch hitting more then make up for it
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
How the 2 teams finish will determine who wins the award.If we overtake Texas and win the division there is no way Melvin doesn’t win it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Wow did you see all those Oriole fans at fenway? I havent seen that in hella long
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
How the 2 teams finish will determine who wins the award.If we overtake Texas and win the division there is no way Melvin doesn’t win it.
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If A’s and O’s win division…then who gets it? I bet Buck
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Drew on with a bloop single to lead off….come on gomes!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hester is mad legit
Ellis McCarthy will be a top 5 pick in 2 years. Homey could beat out Seymour right now
Fauria could also start for the S&B which is hella sad
I’d take Hundley over Barkley right now, I’ve got sources that tell me he hooks up with freshman dudes at the Popeye’s on Adams
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Gomes with unsuspecting bunt…now Yo Ces gotta comethru
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hester is mad legit
Ellis McCarthy will be a top 5 pick in 2 years. Homey could beat out Seymour right now
Fauria could also start for the S&B which is hella sad
I’d take Hundley over Barkley right now, I’ve got sources that tell me he hooks up with freshman dudes at the Popeye’s on Adams
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Not bad Beecher….not bad,….you must be finally getting some good weed this week…proud of ya
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The reason Crisp is in CF is he sulks and acts like a baby if he is put in left.At least that is what happened early this season.His bat and base running are important so I guess they are just trying to keep him happy.There is no doubt Yo is a far superior CF.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Wow they walked Moss to get to Carter….well thats a diss to you Chris….come through dammit!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Have a parlay card that has NMS -6.5 over NM.
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Let’s go Lobo’s!!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Here we go Pedro Serrano.
F U Jobo!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The reason Crisp is in CF is he sulks and acts like a baby if he is put in left.At least that is what happened early this season.His bat and base running are important so I guess they are just trying to keep him happy.There is no doubt Yo is a far superior CF.
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A’s 62-43 with Crisp out there….not bad for a noodle arm CF….keep coco in CF…i love Yo Ces in LF…i want the corner arms to be stronger and we do….Yo Ces and Reddick got great arms in LF and RF…Donaldson and the Moss/Carter combo are good at 1st and 3rd
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
B,Buck didn’t lose his 3 best starters like we have but you are probably correct.IF we both win our divisions Buck will probably get it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Here we go Pedro Serrano.
F U Jobo!!!
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He looked at a hanger high for strike 2…guess he wants to walk
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Another real good game for Geno. Real smooth throwing motion. Definitely looks the part.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
B,Buck didn’t lose his 3 best starters like we have but you are probably correct.IF we both win our divisions Buck will probably get it.
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Im being selfish…i want players to be pissed manager got slighted…that will fuel an october to remember
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Come on Reddick…bases loaded again
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Ichiro’s shirt hit has got to be the play of the day.
I just could not stop laughing.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
My god 2-2 count…..reddick be a man!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
A strong arm is no good in LF, short throw to 3rd, teams don’t send the runner as much as more hits to left are cleaner.
CF and RF, you can hide the arm in LF.
Crisp throwing in CF will cost you runs in the postseason.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Yo Blog Brahs
Just threw up the Rasta Ganja show announcement on Facebook and 3 bangin’ shorties from SDSU just RSVPd
I better ice down the Beeech Lawg in a frozen margarita, looks like the big dude’s gonna have his work cut out for him tonight.
Meaning, he’s going to have lots of intercourse with assorted nameless women
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
My god reddick for 3rd time in two games you do nada with bases loaded…you are garbage
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
A’s 3-4-5-6 hitters couldnt get it done when needed again
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Come on,B,he nailed that.The 1st baseman made a nice diving grab.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Reddick squared it up, solid play from the 1B.
Solid move by Girardi getting him in there late in the game.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
That was one of those plays where you have to tip your hat to the opponent.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Anyone hear of the reasoning behind Schefter picking Raiders to win?
Just curious.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Have a parlay card that has NMS -6.5 over NM.
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Trap game for Pittsburgh
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Come on,B,he nailed that.The 1st baseman made a nice diving grab.
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Man….i dont care if pearce made a great play….get the job done! WE have 11 games left after this….all that other schit is lame man…..the city needs you guys to get in the playoffs…the hell is wrong with Reddick…he has stunk since July……we left 13 men on base today….9 were due to reddick…..should i not get on him?
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Ooopps wrong cut and paste, that was in response to 704
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Back to Hue I see, ok…… please read carefully.
Hue Jackson overall numbers in 2 years calling the plays here:
24 ppg, placing us just outside the top 10 in the League in 2010/2011.
The year before he got here we averaged 12 ppg, after 2 games without him we’re averaging 13.5
24 ppg while dealing with:
4 different QB’s starting at least 1 game: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missing d 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps s at WR : DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, JLH and TJ Housh.
4 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps at TE: Zach Mller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Rich Gordon.
And he did it while using/transitioning/mixing 2 different primary blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL and in 2011 Hue brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Hue did not have a training camp and a full pre-season to work with as a Rookie HC, players were shuffling in and out of the lineup almost on a weekly basis for his entire tenue, continuity was hard to accomplish with so many injuries and the QB transition.
Yet he still produced an Offense that was this close to a top 10 unit during 2 seasons, even with some rough patches, his unit was only bound to get better in 2012.
By the way, did you know our Defense allowed at least 28 ppg in every loss in 2011? that puts a ton of pressure on the Offense to perform and it’s a factor to be mixed in, a better Defense would have helped Hue’s Offense as well.
- After looking at the facts above, tell me:
Was Hue Jackson a brilliant offensive mind that took an untalented bunch of players and led them to 2 pretty good 2 years overall?.
Or was he just the benficiary of a talented group of players that he rode to success?.
I ask because many people here blame the players for the current offensive woes, they say we barely have any NFL talent at all, they say we need to re-build because these guys can’t play….
So, which is it?.
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Note to all Hue haters: facts are right here in your face you can spin it however you choose but facts are facts and its not debatable. If you can’t read this post by Bob (who clearly gets it) and determine that Hue should still be the coach you either don’t know football or your a racist and don’t want Hue around because he is an outspoken black man.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Anyone hear of the reasoning behind Schefter picking Raiders to win?
Just curious.
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A leak in vegas?
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Brahs, for the record -
The Beeeech Dawg would NEVER pork Pink
That chick is rank beyond all words
The Beeeech Dawg would ALWAYS pork Miley Cyrus
I’d just smell that freshly groomed camel toe for 40 minutes before insertion
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
schefter wants, hopes prays for a knapp win…krappy is from thekubiak tree thats from the shanarat tree that schefter was the beat writer for the donks…
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Back to Hue I see, ok…… please read carefully.
Hue Jackson overall numbers in 2 years calling the plays here:
24 ppg, placing us just outside the top 10 in the League in 2010/2011.
The year before he got here we averaged 12 ppg, after 2 games without him we’re averaging 13.5
24 ppg while dealing with:
4 different QB’s starting at least 1 game: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller (finished the Cleveland game and played the 1st half of KC) and Carson Palmer.
McFadden missing d 40% of those games, 13 of 32.
8 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps s at WR : DHB, Murphy, Chaz, Ford, Moore, Hagan, JLH and TJ Housh.
4 different players starting at least 1 game or seeing significant snaps at TE: Zach Mller, Kevin Boss, Brandon Myers and Rich Gordon.
And he did it while using/transitioning/mixing 2 different primary blocking schemes, in 2010 Tom Cable was still the coach and his guy Jim Mychalzick coached the OL and in 2011 Hue brought Bob Wylie and Wiz.
Hue did not have a training camp and a full pre-season to work with as a Rookie HC, players were shuffling in and out of the lineup almost on a weekly basis for his entire tenue, continuity was hard to accomplish with so many injuries and the QB transition.
Yet he still produced an Offense that was this close to a top 10 unit during 2 seasons, even with some rough patches, his unit was only bound to get better in 2012.
By the way, did you know our Defense allowed at least 28 ppg in every loss in 2011? that puts a ton of pressure on the Offense to perform and it’s a factor to be mixed in, a better Defense would have helped Hue’s Offense as well.
- After looking at the facts above, tell me:
Was Hue Jackson a brilliant offensive mind that took an untalented bunch of players and led them to 2 pretty good 2 years overall?.
Or was he just the benficiary of a talented group of players that he rode to success?.
I ask because many people here blame the players for the current offensive woes, they say we barely have any NFL talent at all, they say we need to re-build because these guys can’t play….
So, which is it?.
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Note to all Hue haters: facts are right here in your face you can spin it however you choose but facts are facts and its not debatable. If you can’t read this post by Bob (who clearly gets it) and determine that Hue should still be the coach you either don’t know football or your a racist and don’t want Hue around because he is an outspoken black man.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA….outspoken with nothing to back it up…yes the offense we agree was better but his halftime adjustments were schit and the palmer trade,housh for hagan schit, rolando and end of year presser got him canned
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
schefter wants, hopes prays for a knapp win…krappy is from thekubiak tree thats from the shanarat tree that schefter was the beat writer for the donks…
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Makes sense
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA….outspoken with nothing to back it up…yes the offense we agree was better but his halftime adjustments were schit
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Jackson made halftime adjustments?
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I’m standing pat on my prediction that the Raiders will go 0-4…..but finish the regular season 10-6.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
B,he carried the team in the 1st half.Last week against the birds he had numerous key hits.Admittedly he hasn’t hit like he was earlier this year,but he nailed that ball last inning.Can’t fault him for that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Man fk this….A’s pissing me off…..im out
See yall later
Just Win
Code Black 2012
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA….outspoken with nothing to back it up…yes the offense we agree was better but his halftime adjustments were schit
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Jackson made halftime adjustments?
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LOL
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Man fk this….A’s pissing me off
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Tie game in Yankee stadium has you pissed?
Dude, not the easiest place to win games.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
B,he carried the team in the 1st half.Last week against the birds he had numerous key hits.Admittedly he hasn’t hit like he was earlier this year,but he nailed that ball last inning.Can’t fault him for that.
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9 men left on because of him the last two days…you tell me lefty
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Man fk this….A’s pissing me off
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Tie game in Yankee stadium has you pissed?
Dude, not the easiest place to win games.
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MAYBE because you are a loser ass Giants fans you would say such a thing
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I didn’t realize being an outspoken black man qualified one to be an NFL HC.If that was the case,wouldn’t B be in the running for coach of the year ever year?
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Week 6 O-line
Veldheer-Wiz-Parsons-Coops-Bergstrom
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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Players rise above and win despite Knapp
Big Ben steelers not really good
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I didn’t realize being an outspoken black man qualified one to be an NFL HC.If that was the case,wouldn’t B be in the running for coach of the year ever year?
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LOL I’m qualified to be an OC more than Knapp Time thats for sure
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
B,he leads the team in HR and RBI.One guy can’t do it every day.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Sorry to spoil the fun but A’s won’t make playoffs just don’t have enough bats to compete but we shold take solice in the fact that we made it this close down the stretch. A’s won’t win WS till they spend the money necessary. We’ve been in the mold of the 90’s ATL Braves for some time now but I’m not sure if that philosophy works as even those Braves teams were only able to win 1 WS and they were always beaten by teams with less pitching but better bats.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Week 6 O-line
Veldheer-Wiz-Parsons-Coops-Bergstrom
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Still garbage
I say it will be
Veldheer-Cooper-Wiz-Brisiel-Bergstrom
Still garbage
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Raids getting some play as a live home dog.
Schefter aint the only one backing them, the line dropped to 3.5 yesterday.
Personally, I don’t see it. Figured the Squeelers to be -7 considering Raids can’t score and the secondary figures to get torched.
Only thing I can think of is Pitt struggled mightily against the Mules and despite Sanchez being garbage the Jets were in that game most of the way.
Think the wise guys aren’t sold on Pitt, and there’s no Harrison or Polamalu.
Think it’s more of a vote against the Squeelers than it is an endorsement of the Raids.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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Players rise above and win despite Knapp
Big Ben steelers not really good
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Excellent. Raiders feed off the home crowd, have played better than most fans think, and will put it together for this game!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Sorry to spoil the fun but A’s won’t make playoffs just don’t have enough bats to compete but we shold take solice in the fact that we made it this close down the stretch. A’s won’t win WS till they spend the money necessary. We’ve been in the mold of the 90’s ATL Braves for some time now but I’m not sure if that philosophy works as even those Braves teams were only able to win 1 WS and they were always beaten by teams with less pitching but better bats.
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Loser talk….that is what losers do when they are so close…GIVE UP
The Angels arent making the postseason we are 3.5 games up on them…we are for sure in…..I know you are now in alabama so baseball talk maybe not suited for ya bruh….this tough stretch is what will take us over the top
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
EastOak…you dont know baseball….October baseball is about pitching and defense
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Great play by Penny and Norris.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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Players rise above and win despite Knapp
Big Ben steelers not really good
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Excellent. Raiders feed off the home crowd, have played better than most fans think, and will put it together for this game!
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They need to win
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Anyways im out…Go A’s..Go Raiders
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Still garbage
I say it will be
Veldheer-Cooper-Wiz-Brisiel-Bergstrom
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Naw, after the bye week Wiz goes back to his natural position and so does Coops and Bergstrom. The weak link will be Parsons at C but he will be no worse than Satelle.
I saw it in a dream.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Anyways im out…Go A’s..Go Raiders
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Adios sexy boy!
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I’ve seen Brisiel make one decent play….he went out and blocked for Goodson on the TD throw. But, go back and look, did Brisiel grab the ankle? Could have been holding. (i didn’t record it)
Week 6 he will be backing up Coops.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
EastOak…you dont know baseball….October baseball is about pitching and defense
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Tell that to the Braves teams of he 90’s. And as far as the Angels go they have won a WS and they are the hunt year in an year out because they spend money.
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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Players rise above and win despite Knapp
Big Ben steelers not really good
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Excellent. Raiders feed off the home crowd, have played better than most fans think, and will put it together for this game!
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The lead story after the Raider game Sunday will have something to with a loss and the fans booing.
ESPN Raider highlights= Fans booing.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Johnny Gomes
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
They may even start throwing stuff on the field
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Yo-Yo-Yo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
read this:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/22/jets-cut-veteran-linebacker-bryan-thomas/
the Raiders should sign this guy and start him in Week 3 (if McClain is out) at Burris’ OLB spot
slide Miles over to MLB!
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Chris Carter
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Steeler fan will be in full effect tomorrow, unfortunately. Sure hope we smoke the Squeelers by some small miracle.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Looks like the Beavers are taking it to those pansy powder blues down in La-La land.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
read this:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/22/jets-cut-veteran-linebacker-bryan-thomas/
the Raiders should sign this guy and start him in Week 3 (if McClain is out) at Burris’ OLB spot
slide Miles over to MLB!
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At first glance, i love your idea.
I thought for sure we were gonna sign Carter. How many times are they gonna drag this guy in here and then send him home w/o a contract?
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Method a casual fan can tell you “pitching and D win games” DUH but you also have to have timely hitting which WS winning teams have and the A’s haven’t had even in the Hudson Mulder Zito era.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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We are at home, home teams win 55% of their games.
And……well I gave you one!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says: We are at home, home teams win 55% of their games./////////////////Cashing in my life insurance policies as we speak. I’m gonna die rich when she finds out.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Giants won the World Series in 2010 scoring the fewest runs in almost all of baseball.
Very few teams slug their way to a title.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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We are at home, home teams win 55% of their games.
And……well I gave you one!!
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Any given Sunday right? And uhhh…
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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Cuz we in the black hole and steelers have so much poo down their leg, they can’t shake it, as in shake a leg. to much poo on the steelers.
And, Allen let the poo fly in practice and the Raiders don’t want anymore poo on them. Allen and knapp really let the poo fly. Poo flies have nasty little bites.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Ok, let’s say that Hue IS a joke of the league and that’s the general thought right? Ok. Fine. If that’s the case how should that make DA and Knapp feel? They are being compared to Hue ad nauseum with the idea that they don’t measure up to the pathetic Huejack; not only on internet blogs but in the newspapers by credentialed writers as well as many others around the league.
Well if Hue is such a freaking joke than how would Knapp and DA be processing this idea they can’t even measure up to the “joke” Hue?
I’d hope that they would take it personally and show that yes…they are an upgrade to Hue. If Hue is such a “joke” what does it make them?
Get ticked DA and get us some wins and show the world you were a better choice the Hue “the pimp”, cuz right now you both are looking to that “joke”.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
* looking UP to the “joke”.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Giants won the World Series in 2010 scoring the fewest runs in almost all of baseball.
Very few teams slug their way to a title.
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Giants also had timely hitting esp in playoffs.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Any given Sunday right? And uhhh…
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We have better uniforms.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Man, just watched AFC Playbook on NFL network. Our guys better learn to tackle. They are horrible at it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Actually last week 14 of 16 home teams won, way more than 55% with the new refs.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
DJ # 276
Its the curse of the Hue-bino. I just hope we don’t have to suffer for a hundred years like the Red Sox did. But great post. Allen and RegMac havin to eat that for dinner. Wow.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Right now the score is:
Hue 2
DA 0
Get ticked DA.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
#756 my bad
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Wow, you guys must think about Hue when you rub one out in Mom’s basement. The guy is gone. Doesn’t work here anymore. Elvis has left the building. It’s like demanding that GM bring back the Pontiac Fiero. It ain’t happening.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
read this:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/22/jets-cut-veteran-linebacker-bryan-thomas/
the Raiders should sign this guy and start him in Week 3 (if McClain is out) at Burris’ OLB spot
slide Miles over to MLB!
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I’m on board with this, they should sign him in a heartbeat, saw McClain jogging behind Reggie Bush too many times last week, concussion or not, this is his 3rd year where he should be breaking out instead I have seen enough, he is what he is, time to move on, he can go back to the hood in bama and hang out with jamarcus at the barbershop
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
I want an Oakland reporter to ask DA at the next presser:
“Coach, how does it make you feel to know that the team has made a significant drop from Hue Jackson since you took over as head coach? Does that ever bother you to know that Hue had this team within a game of the division title and has significantly regressed this year?”
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
We know Hue ain’t comin back. Just a damn shame he left.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
So we’ve become the average bottom of the barrel copycat team? When has that ever worked. Great teams are original, they don’t copy some other teams schemes and play calling.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
I’ve seen it work!!! My a$$, what kind of explanation is that
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Aluminum Can Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
DJ # 276
Its the curse of the Hue-bino. I just hope we don’t have to suffer for a hundred years like the Red Sox did. But great post. Allen and RegMac havin to eat that for dinner. Wow.
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Thx man. I’m not trying to beat this Hue thing to death. He IS gone. I’m not the only one comparing him to our current admin. It’s going on all over the place.
I’d love for DA to use those comparisons as motivation.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
I’ve seen it work!!! My a$$, what kind of explanation is that
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“Well we plan on running Owen Schmitt every play on Sunday. I believe in running the big white guy on every play…i’ve seen it work with John Riggins”.
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Damn, if the A’s don’t make the playoffs you can look back on today.
Got to keep your closer for leads on the road.
Can’t have Neshak or whatever trying to nail down a tough October road win.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I think Matt Barkley is going to find himself getting the Jimmy Claussen treatment from the NFL.
Thinks he is a top 10 draft pick, future starting QB, when actually he is a mid 2nd rounder and future backup NFL QB.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Allen on the Miami game last week.
“I think, when you look at how the first half played out, obviously passing game-wise, we were able to get some explosive passes down the field.”
“Explosive passes”??? LOL says the guy who hired Knapp as OC. DA is clueless. Explosiveness and Knapps scheme do not go together. If he wanted that he should of hired a real OC.
So clueless. Just fire this guy now and get it over with.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Eddie Mush!
Who do you like?
Don’t be stingy. I need the money.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Take the Lobo’s with the points.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Allen on the Miami game last week.
“I think, when you look at how the first half played out, obviously passing game-wise, we were able to get some explosive passes down the field.”
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“Coach, does it bother you that despite the explosive plays u speak of you still were beaten very badly by what was considered to be the worst team in the AFC”?
“In your mind is it more important to point to the few successes you had on Sunday or to win the game?”
“Finally coach, how tough is it on you personally knowing that despite the high expectations coming into the season that the team has regressed quickly to the point as being widely considered to be the worst team in football”?
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I’m on board with this, they should sign him in a heartbeat, saw McClain jogging behind Reggie Bush too many times last week, concussion or not, this is his 3rd year where he should be breaking out instead I have seen enough, he is what he is, time to move on, he can go back to the hood in bama and hang out with jamarcus at the barbershop
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Saw AFC Playbook this morning and they called him out. “He’s too slow” was their description.
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says: Al did make it interesting O.//////////////////////No, he didn’t. Al Davis made it the NFL.
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I think you’re right John.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Chris in NY Says:
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I saw your post brother Chris and it seems to me that you and I must be talking about two different games.
You “remember someone’s knickers getting in a twist”?
Well, I sure hope they weren’t too tight for you.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
#777 you owe me a fifty.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
EastOak…you dont know baseball….October baseball is about pitching and defense
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Tell that to the Braves teams of he 90’s. And as far as the Angels go they have won a WS and they are the hunt year in an year out because they spend money.
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LOL.
Brien knows a tiny little bit about football but he doesn’t know crap about baseball.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Boss01 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
read this:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/22/jets-cut-veteran-linebacker-bryan-thomas/
the Raiders should sign this guy and start him in Week 3 (if McClain is out) at Burris’ OLB spot
slide Miles over to MLB!
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His salary is already guaranteed, so he’d be playing here for nothing, and wouldnt it be like Seymour all over again? I agree, Bryan Thomas would be an upgrade, though.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I think Matt Barkley is going to find himself getting the Jimmy Claussen treatment from the NFL.
Thinks he is a top 10 draft pick, future starting QB, when actually he is a mid 2nd rounder and future backup NFL QB.
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Agree. Family very well off, and he sort of has that Leinart, “like the celebrity” feel.
this might actually be a better year to trade out of the top 5 and stockpile players. The one problem this year, is it will be a very junior-heavy draft, so that means raw players.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I hate San Diego
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Big Reg will find a diamond in the rough
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
DMac will have 218 rushing yards tomorrow!!!! So let it be written, so let it be done, this guy is …A BEAST!
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
We need to bring in Marshall Faulk to be the play caller. Using Saunders playbook.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Damn that movie End of Watch was crazy. Jake Gylenhall is a good actor
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
If people think the steelers are going to travel all the way over here to the West Coast, play the late game and beat US??? Their crazy!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Damn that movie End of Watch was crazy. Jake Gylenhall is a good actor
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Yeah, I wanted to see that too, it looks like The Shield. Near documentary type film….David Ayer (Training Day writer) did it again!
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Stupid steelers tried to copy our image. Like Baltimore did, like the bucks have been trying to do since they changed their logo from a sailor to a pirate themed one.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
If Pryor suits up tomorrow and theres a package of plays for him, I think I’d might respect him for at least until the game is over. Not sure why DA or Knapp aren’t incorporating Pryor in some way. He’s a handful when the pocket collapses or on a bootleg pass/keeper. What do we have to lose? More games?
Take a chance!
Also, I’ve watched more than a couple of Division I offenses ran way more creatively than ours this afternoon and night.
Shut down Knappster!
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Sleazy Possum III Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Bri give me two reasons why we are winning on Sunday.
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Cuz we in the black hole and steelers have so much poo down their leg, they can’t shake it, as in shake a leg. to much poo on the steelers.
And, Allen let the poo fly in practice and the Raiders don’t want anymore poo on them. Allen and knapp really let the poo fly. Poo flies have nasty little bites.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dude, can you crawl back in the hole from whence you slithered and dine on some slimy green things ? maybe your brother, the toad.
“The Steelers have so much poo down their leg”: “to much poo on the Steelers.” (brilliant analysis)
Fyi, the Steelers will grind us up like melon pulp through a blender. Count on it!
Fire freakish spawn and spawnor, Mark and his Mom; wash away the taint of Davis control.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
If raiders dont win tommorow.. Allen / Knapp are gonna keep on hearing it.. the articles / radio voices will be louder this week. They can pretend like they dont hear it.. but it will affect them.
Y do u think Knapp was over here saying patience and giving excuses
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Is there a worse QB in Division 1 than Zack Maynard?
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
End of Watch? Who cares about the lives of two full of themselves, arsehole cops?
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Sleazy Possum III,
Sleazy Possum II must be ya Daddy. Would love to meet him and Sleazy Possum I, Grandpa.
I am sure with the moon rising they’ll be out all night feeding on earth worms, cockroaches, and mice.
One thing for sure, the Possum family are no geniuses.
Fire freakish spawn and spawnor, Mark and his Mom; wash away the taint of Davis control.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Knapp took a step back to try to move forward. I think it was an unnecessary step back, but since I am a Raider fan I hope he succeeds beyond my wildest hopes.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Same story over and over. It’s those geeks in high school who go into law to feel powerfull then go out beat people in the streets to feel better about themselves.
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
End of Watch? Who cares about the lives of two full of themselves, arsehole cops?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MextallicA,
I have read some questionable post from you, but what are you talking about, as described above.
What is this, MR hour?
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
where’s beechy dawg? probably with antoine
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Max,are you referring to the 2 heros in Houston that shot and killed the guy with 1 arm and 1 leg who was confined to a wheelchair because he was waving a pen at them?
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Pryor=Newton=V.Young=McNabb=King Kong=DUMB BABOONS THAT WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Knapp took a step back to try to move forward. I think it was an unnecessary step back, but since I am a Raider fan I hope he succeeds beyond my wildest hopes.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Raiderkoolaid,
You don’t get it. This busted down old team full of hacks, charlatans, and dilettantes claiming to be staff, players, or management won’t succeed at anything except drowning themselves in the toilet.
Be more creative with your “wildest hopes” my lad, instead of wasting on these pretenders.
Fire freakish spawn and spawnor, Mark and his Mom; wash away the taint of Davis control.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
End of Watch? Who cares about the lives of two full of themselves, arsehole cops?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MextallicA,
I have read some questionable post from you, but what are you talking about, as described above.
What is this, MR hour?
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I do apologize for making you read my “questionable” posts…
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
If people think the steelers are going to travel all the way over here to the West Coast, play the late game and beat US??? Their crazy!!!
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Well call me crazy then. You must didn’t see the jets game Max. Jets are better on both sides of the ball than us and they still got their ass handed to them. Big Ben licking his chops to face this secondary.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
And what is there to explain? If you have a disagreement then state it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
MextallicA,
It’s fine, no need to apologize at all. I read your posts, right, so I wasn’t forced.
It is just your last two posts 798, and 801, I have no idea what you are talking about. I doubt few others in here understand either.
Please clarify.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
If people think the steelers are going to travel all the way over here to the West Coast, play the late game and beat US??? Their crazy!!!
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Well call me crazy then. You must didn’t see the jets game Max. Jets are better on both sides of the ball than us and they still got their ass handed to them. Big Ben licking his chops to face this secondary.
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I won’t call you crazy, but I might call you a jet fan after that statement
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
fangsraiders=ignorant=racist=dumb=your post
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
MextallicA,
I doubt the Steelers will lose. They are 1/1 and being in a weakened, beat up state need to defeat the worst team in the NFL.
I’ll place my money on the Steelers.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Maybe I got the wrong movie. I thought End of Watch was that new cop movie. You know the one with the two full of themselves power hungry typical small town cops……?
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
We need clemson or FSU OC their O looks National championship caliber.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
I love how people are using the excuse that its knapp’s first year in a system. Those people need to go sit in a corner and choke themselves. Its not an excuse at all. There are plenty of OC’s that come in all the time and have a successful offense in their first year.
I wish I could just find Knapp and take him out for the betterment of all of us lol
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Yeah I left out the part where they unrealistically stumble upon a situation and become heroes on purpose because that’s fake Hollywood storylines to make the movie interesting and give people a good feeling about the men in blue. But it’s fake so I left that part out.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I have no choice but to hope for Knapp to succeed. I don’t have firing power.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
If people think the steelers are going to travel all the way over here to the West Coast, play the late game and beat US??? Their crazy!!!
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Well call me crazy then. You must didn’t see the jets game Max. Jets are better on both sides of the ball than us and they still got their ass handed to them. Big Ben licking his chops to face this secondary.
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I won’t call you crazy, but I might call you a jet fan after that statement
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Just reality bro you should try it sometime but the optimism is nice though. But the glass is definitely half empty.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
fangsraiders=ignorant=racist=dumb=your post = THE TRUTH IS A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
It’s too early to say that. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think knapps the right guy. Our defense needs about 5 new starters and our o-line line needs to pick it up but it’s totally possible to win tomorrow. And since I’m a Raider fan I’m rooting for possible not probable.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
MextallicA,
So then “End of Watch” plays, and two cops unrealistically stumble upon a situation and become heroes on purpose (although you left that part out because it’s fake).
I got it! Now what, what happens next, and how does it relate to the Raiders or the Steelers beating the Raiders?
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Finally my LSU Tigers score. But this is a good hard hitting game. Wonder if LSU or Auburn could beat knapp by out smarting him. Don’t answer that.
Crap.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
….missed a few…..Fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Pryor=Newton=V.Young=McNabb=J. Russell=Elridge Dickey=Cunningham=Culpepper=Brooks=King Kong=DUMB BABOONS THAT WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
It’s too early to say that. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think knapps the right guy. Our defense needs about 5 new starters and our o-line line needs to pick it up but it’s totally possible to win tomorrow. And since I’m a Raider fan I’m rooting for possible not probable.
………….
And a kick returner. Our return game is 32nd best in the NFL.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
MextallicA,
So then “End of Watch” plays, and two cops unrealistically stumble upon a situation and become heroes on purpose (although you left that part out because it’s fake).
I got it! Now what, what happens next, and how does it relate to the Raiders or the Steelers beating the Raiders?
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Nothing …. but the police brutality and events tend to diminish as “become heroes on purpose propaganda is given.
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Fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
fangsraiders=ignorant=racist=dumb=your post = THE TRUTH IS A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW = replying = feeding the trolls
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Aluminum Can Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
It’s too early to say that. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think knapps the right guy. Our defense needs about 5 new starters and our o-line line needs to pick it up but it’s totally possible to win tomorrow. And since I’m a Raider fan I’m rooting for possible not probable.
………….
And a kick returner. Our return game is 32nd best in the NFL.
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Tavon Austin, W.Virginia and Jacoby Ford (if he can get back from foot injury)
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
….missed a few…..Fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Pryor=Newton=V.Young=McNabb=J. Russell=Elridge Dickey=Cunningham=Culpepper=Brooks=King Kong=DUMB BABOONS THAT WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
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Elridge Dickey , first black quarterback, legendary Al Davis had the courage to take.
i guess Jackie Robinson didnt amount to anything either.
LOL
Al Davis said; “Let it go!” ‘You holding back the game!”
-Eldridge Dickey on Al Davis; A Football Life
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Those were two different conversations, power hungry cops have nothing to do with the Raiders winning tomorrow, correct.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
HOLLA
hoo hoo hoo let the lawgs out
hoo hoo hoo let the lawgs out
FOWIZZLE HOLLA
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Hey, Cork. Rumor has it there is a game tomorrow. Feed the monster.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
The list of qbs whose skin tone is as white as mine who have not won anything in the NFL is at least a hundred times longer: starting with my favorite quarterback of all-time, Mr. Daryle Lamonica himself.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
smh
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
DA is starting to remind me of josh mcdaniels and lane kiffin
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
….missed a few…..Fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Pryor=Newton=V.Young=McNabb=J. Russell=Elridge Dickey=Cunningham=Culpepper=Brooks=King Kong=DUMB BABOONS THAT WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
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Your post= don’t let me catch yo racist ass on the street.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Must be the visor. Has a coach with a visor ever been a winner? Maybe it’s something that needs to be brought up. Just saying.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Jano (questionable, groin) is a must for tomorrow. This game will need him. If we can get to our 40, we will score at least a FG every time. We are going to need this.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
The last secondary player we drafted out of Florida State (Derrick Gibson) was a bust but I do like Xavier Rhodes. 6′2, long armed, sub 4.5 in the 40, good instincts and open field tackler. Pretty aggressive playing up on the man and good awareness in zone coverage.
I’m flipping between games but this is the bit I saw from him.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
The Oakland Raiders will defeat the steelers tommorrow.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Coach-Knapp-Media-Session/544ba946-fb4b-4074-83f6-c260965c07e1
There’s some truth in there by Knapp, but there’s a lot of excuse-making, and some BS too, like…
“We need some patience. You can’t develop a scheme in two weeks in a regular season.”
A system shouldn’t be still being developed as the regular season goes along. That’s been a bane of ours the last few years where coaches were still trying to implement schemes and/or developing STARTERS to fit the scheme half-way thru the year.
Look at how quickly Mike Wallace has adjusted to Haley’s new offensive scheme, he was holding out all year, then comes in a week before season start and has the nuances down, contributing well.
Meanwhile, our OL has had all pre-season to figure it out, perform at a high level, but it’s been woeful. I rewatched the Dolphins game and a big fault on offense was the OL, could not create a pocket for Palmer around 60-70% of the time, Palmer under waves of pressure 6/10 snaps roughly. And on those run plays were getting beat to the zone by Miami DL and LBs, seeing our OL getting driven sideways, no room for McFadden/etc.
This is not an acceptable attitude below, we don’t have time, 0-2 it has to be fixed immediately, and Knapp should be aggressive and confident promising it will be fixed this week. It’s like he just wants to hold onto his job, wants a 2-3 year process of schematic installation. That’s BS from him. Either you possess solutions to a problem or you don’t and should be replaced. Many coaches around the league can and do fix things immediately…
On how close the run game is to being successful: “It will take a little while. I don’t know what the set time is, and a lot of it will change week-to-week depending on who we’re playing, but it’s making progress.”
Knapp at least admits he has erred as a play-caller, but it’s the same errors he’s always done everywhere he’s OC’d, so is he ever learning tho? It’s the same take what they give, call plays with routes run short of the first down marker, and lack of fire in the play-calling, having an actual KNACK for it, being successful at it because you can decipher and break-down the DC during the game…
On finishing drives: “Part of that’s on me. Part of me is making sure that I put these guys in a position to have success. Last week, a good example is that we ran a play where we had a route called that could have been a double move and I guessed wrong. I said, ‘Alright, they’re going to play off, soft coverage,’ and they actually blitzed us. It would have been perfect to have the double move on. It starts with me trying to get them in the right position to make the play. I’ve been pleased with how we’ve gotten out of a backed up situation and moved that far, but we do need to make some more explosive gains to try and get it, whether it’s run or pass, into the end zone and finish our drives.”
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Games are a chess match between coaches. Look what the Atlanta D did to Manning. Wake up knapp and smell the coffee.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I agree with Thec.
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Thec knows what I’m talking about
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
‘A New Era of Excellence’ is temporarily out of service. Please stay tuned. GMAFB
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Re Special Teams…I think Adams is looking good as a returner, he broke a few and looked like breaking a few more last week. Haven’t seen anything like that from us for a few years, since Ford entered as a rookie. I’d go with him on all returns, Francies is no good as a punt returner.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Side note, would like to see our helmets finished in a matte, flat or gunmetal silver.
Go Raiders!
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Brian Kelly from UC (cincinnati) would make a better “Raider-way” OC.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Al Davis disagreed with the “Take what they give” offense. His philosophy was “Take what I want”
I have high hopes we’ll beat or at least compete with Pittsburgh tomorrow, but there’s also the realist in me that can see us getting smashed tomorrow.
I can see RM and DA being patient with the installed offense, wanting to change the culture of the final Davis years when he would chop and change so much every year. They’ll probably stick with it for a couple years, end of 2013-14 before they re-evaluate. RM looking to draft players that fit the current scheme before giving up on it. Taking the approach of 2012 being an installation year, 2013 taking a step forward into playoffs. If they don’t end of 2013, end up having a 3-13 year in 2012 following it with a 5-11 year, then maybe we see some more drastic change from RM, his job on the line, held accountable.
I don’t think the system necessarily has to be changed, but the OC/play-calling does. Get someone to add in more hybrid offense, just like the defense wants to be “multiple” then get in an OC, who can use this currently installed base playbook, and add layers to it, make it more “multiple” too.
Palmer is the starter, but I still don’t like his performance so far. He was spraying the ball all over the place last week, he just doesn’t have ‘it’ anymore. He’s a good teacher, and humble, etc, so keep him around to develop Pryor more. But i can see that Pryor becoming starter this year, with Palmer his vet back-up spending all his time contributing to the development of Pryor…is inevitable and probably the better use of time/resources. We’re not going to make the playoffs this year being a realist, and Palmer is on the wane already, so better to get Pryor ready as our franchise QB starting 2013 by getting him game-acclimated and learning on the job being a starter this year. Seems more possible we’ll be something like 0-5, or 1-4, so that’s the time to make that move to get a jump on the 2013 season.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
LSU Auburn. What a game.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Highest paid offensive coordinator-Chad Morris, Clemson. I agree, his play calling/offense is nice.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Clemson FSU is a good game too.
Let’s GO ND!!!
Damn you Mich.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Feel like I’m watching Charlie Ward running this FSU offense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Lets GO AZTECS!!!
LMAO @ Mich!!!!! Go ND!!! White Devil is happy.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
HOOOLA
hoo hoo hoo let the lawgs out
hoo hoo hoo let the lawgs out
o raids gotta win so i can get my lawg out
hoo hoo hoo let the lawgs out
FOWHIZZLE BIZZLE BIZZLE
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Are you still telling me ej manual would not look good in the shotgun dressed in silver & black?
This kid can play & he & geno smith are the best qbs in college this year
If the raiders don’t think Pryor can cut it give me one of these two big mck
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:56 pm
The Missus would be proud of the fckin gorgeous tranny babe I snagged last week.
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
848,GG, they play the games for a reason. Just as the Raiders won a SuperBowl as a Wild Card, anything can happen, period. As far as Carson goes, will the Raiders go.Oh Palmer is 33, hardly washed up….
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
The Raiders are going to soon have 3 former no. 1 QB’s on the roster from USC.
How weird is that?
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Let’s go FSU we’re back baby!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I hope to god they don’t draft Barkley he is way over hyped. Ej manual would fit this offense perfectly
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I like Teddy Bridgewater.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Barkley bray Wilson & jones are falling off the draft board , geno smith & manual will be much better prospects in the pro game
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Raiders win tomorrow because Brutas came outta the closet yesterday. He never really got off on Olive Oil. Popeyes is pissed. So is allen and the mack.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Miami you must have missed my qb watch list this year bridgewater has been on it since he was a freshman last year. That kid will be on of the best of his class
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
#857…
Yeah, anything can happen. What’s the stat tho, only 2% of teams in NFL history have made the playoffs after a 0-2 start. By the sounds of Knapp, etc, there’s concession and excuse-making there suggesting the process will be a long one. RM/DA know 2012 is a year of establishing a foundation. Naturally, they all want to win and go to playoffs, but realistically deep down they probably know 2013 onwards is the year to progress forward.
Like I said, i am always watching eagerly, hoping for a win, and can see ways where we can.
It’s not Palmer’s age that bothers me, it’s his actual on-field performances. When a vet QB becomes very erratic, is when they’re on the wane. They become like rookie QBs…overthrowing, underthrowing, making bad reads, throwing into double coverage, in between making some good plays. The consistency isn’t there. Just like when we saw McNabb etc start to become erratic and making rookie mistakes was the beginning of the end.
It’s inevitable we’ll be something like 1-4 or whatever. Palmer is a good teacher and unlike the Favre’s Mannings Brady’s who dont like to teach back-ups, Palmer is very giving of his time and knowledge. Pryor starting with Palmer re-signed to provide veteran leadership/guidance to him, is a better use of time/resources for 2012 if/when we reach 1-4/0-5.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
No need to draft EJ or Geno as we have TP who is faster and will be more polished then either of them by next year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
And yes, EJ Manual looks promising. I’d draft him as #3 stringer, and have him and Pryor ultimately compete.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
GG,
Easy talkiNg about Pryor starting or Palmer being on the decline…..
They will call you a racist & Palmer basher
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
The Raiders are going to soon have 3 former no. 1 QB’s on the roster from USC.
How weird is that?
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Or Sanchez winds up here. Heard a lot of talk on that earlier this year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
865, Youre Cousin is Mistic1,SV, I knew it. RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
#868…
Lol. Well anyone who makes that retort to me would be embarrassing themselves. I mainly stick to football talk, objectivity.
Can’t stop people saying what they want, even if to just troll and push buttons. But from what I see, Palmer is on the wane clearly a la McNabb/Hasselbeck/etc, and we’re likely to be 1-4/0-5, so therefore it makes more sense to promote Pryor and game-acclimate him so he’s hitting the ground running in 2013, has NFL experience under his belt, learns thru the processes of reading coverages, understanding looks, making correct audibles, getting his new throwing mechanics muscle-memorized etc.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I am for one excited to see Pryor. He looks way better throwing the ball than he did in college. He can make plays , & we could build a wco like thy have in Washington. Blend the wco with triple option & spread zone option pryor would kill
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I hope to god they don’t draft Barkley he is way over hyped. Ej manual would fit this offense perfectly/////////////////////What effing offense are we talking about.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
GG I predicted the same thing in preseason. If Palmer didn’t just blow the doors off & we start 1-4 2-6 or the like hand it over to tp6.
Lol peoplE blasted me for it
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Will Pryor finally dress tommorow?
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
873
The wco that the raiders run. Only we could update it instead of being stuck with Palmer running this obselete version
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
If Raiders loose tomorrow they might as well put TP in. The season is over if they stay the course. Let him get some experience.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Mckenzie needs to find out how he can get Mante Te’o on the team next year
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I would rather watch Pryor go through his “Rookie” style mistakes than see Palmer play mediocre and throw INT’s.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Palmer, Seymour and maybe huff all need to be gone next year. Taking way to much money.
I would have rather kept wimbley then seymour and Palmer really.
Leinart fits this offense better
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
#872…totally agree. It just seems Knapp lacks the balls and creativity and URGENCY to make such changes. Maybe even DA/RM could err sticking to the course too long, or lack the creativity.
I mean, DA/Tarver are bringing in a more creative approach to defense, and being Defensive minded, they usually have more flair and daring on offense, know what troubles defenses being defensive co-ordinators.
Whereas Knapp is just plain unimaginative and lacks the daring etc to be successful and great in the NFL.
There’s a plethora of inventive-minded coaches in college, we must hire one of them. Brian Kelly was one, for instance. We could make our offense more dangerous to defend utilizing Pryor even in the current dull scheme.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Yeah very likely Palmer will not be a Raider next year. No need to waste the season on him. Let TP get some experience. Also gives the Raiders an idea of what type of player they have.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Well said #874, #876, #877, and #879.
Totally agree with you both.
I wasn’t as bright as you to literally see this happen so soon. I wanted to at least see this offense in meaningful action before making a statement on it. But it’s clearly apparent Palmer is on the wane, Knapp obviously sucks and always has, has ruined the progress we made on offense last year.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Yeah very likely Palmer will not be a Raider next year. No need to waste the season on him. Let TP get some experience. Also gives the Raiders an idea of what type of player they have.
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I think you need to bring someone in to create a new modern system for TP6. Similar to what they’ve done for RG3 in Washington.
This is the future of the NFL folks..
TP6 has a certain skill set, as does, McFadden.. you have to get those two into a system where they can feed off each other and make defenses crumble to their strengths. We don’t have the talent on our staff offensively (Greg Knapp, I’m looking you way), to pull that off.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
If Palmer leaves I’ll bet he rips this ZBS bullschiit. And rightly so. And DMAC will be right behind him. Good thing Bush isn’t here. He’d be stuffed to.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
DA will not start pryor unless we’re 0-8 or sumthn like that as obviously he is very stubborn.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
DA will not start pryor unless we’re 0-8 or sumthn like that as obviously he is very stubborn.
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He must be a racist.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Reggie’s roster moves have not been very good. I don’t want to see them lose and stay the course with Palmer. I could see Reggie getting rid of Palmer and Pryor in the offseason. Looks like DA and Reggie are not very high on Pryor. They don’t even suit him up. It would be stupid to get rid of Pryor before we see what he can do.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
This defense is boring without wimbley. There i said it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
I like the defensive regime changes and player transactions. But the offensive regime changes, offensive scheme, and offensive transactions have been a bit questionable by RM/DA.
It’s like they’re bending backwards for Knapp, whatever he wants roster-wise and scheme-wise, they’re leaving it in his hands. DA spending more time on defense.
Knapp will ruin the Raiders, beyond just play-calling, but regressing players on offense, them having to get released/traded to catch on elsewhere under better more creative coaches who bring the best out of them, utilize them better. Fingers crossed RM stops sitting on his hands in regards Knapp.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Depending how we are after 8 games.. Reggie needs to do what we all know needs to be done and get rid of knapp.
Why prelong it after two seasons when he still sucks
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Knapp wouldn’t do TP any favors with his playcalling. I like the O they have set up for Cam up in carolina with him williams and stewart. I think we could be pretty scary on O with TP Dmac an Reece in the backfield an Moore Ford and DHB on the outside talk about speed kills how do you defense that?
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
knapp takes to long to get the plays in. Not good for the rythym and flow of the offense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Look how quickly it took Jay Gruden to install a whole new offense in Cincinnati last year. They immediately got it schematically installed and working at a high level in PRE-SEASON. And worked his scheme around the available talent, what works best for the individual play-makers.
Look how quickly the coaches in Carolina and Washington and Seattle (this year) have done the same with Newton, Griffin, and Wilson.
Look how quickly old head OCs have come to a new team in 2012, installed a new system, and gotten high level play right away start of week 1.
Knapp either has solutions or he doesn’t. This whole thing of “we’re still developing thru the regular season” is downright BS and him riding the gravy train of being an OC not a QB coach, wants to hold onto his job.
All I hear from DA/RM and Knapp is how the system is fine, not going to make changes, etc, but where’s this organizational accountability that RM preaches? Internally Knapp should be acknowledging he’s on the heat seat. RM/DA insisting improvement needs to be made immediately by the OC, not afraid to admit mistake. If they’re avoiding causing concern, fair enough, but internally in the org they should be making Knapp know his job is on the line unless he drastically improves.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Knapp wouldn’t do TP any favors with his playcalling. I like the O they have set up for Cam up in carolina with him williams and stewart. I think we could be pretty scary on O with TP Dmac an Reece in the backfield an Moore Ford and DHB on the outside talk about speed kills how do you defense that?
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Yeah they are running a “Zone Read” with Newton. That could work with TP and DMAC. Knapp is not skilled enough to install or run that.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
You have no clue as to what is going on internally.Stop acting like you are ‘in the know’.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Obviously Knapp is a racist.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Im still pissed at Mckenzie getting rid of Wimbley.. ya his contract was bloated .. but this D is missing his versatility. His pass rushing skills. Like I said I would have gotten rid of seymour and palmer first.
He is only 28 years old (wimbley) he has 11 pressures along with chris long / dumervil so far this season.. leading. sacks are coming
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
You have no clue as to what is going on internally.Stop acting like you are ‘in the know’.
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Words like “Patience” from DA and Knapp gives everybody plenty of insight.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mack, DA and Mark have got to be bangin each others heads off the wall. Can you imagine the in fighting going in behind closed doors. I’ll bet there all fit to be tied. Probably a lit of fist pounding by Mack, yelling by Mark and Allen probably is the brunt of it. Gotta be pretty ugly inside there I would bet.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RegMack will be turning to wizards and soothesayers before this season is over. And Mark will get a real haircut to try and bring the team better luck. Yeah. We’re in good hands.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Whatever Al’s faults, he always wasnt afraid to make changes. Better to be right than consistent. There was an urgency to win, to improve, to utilize the talent, emphasize their individual traits/skills.
Knapp sucked very early, he pulled him immediately out of play-calling duties and gave it to Cable because it sucked and everyone could see it. There wasnt time to waste.
While Davis’ defense needed to be changed, modernized, his offensive approach has never been wrong. It’s more and more valid in today’s NFL in fact. Stretch and spread the field, out-muscle in the trenches, be explosive on offense….needed today (look at recent Super Bowl teams).
While I am ok with the scheme we have as a base, having Knapp as OC is like having Davis as defensive co-ordinator. Too predictable, not enough layers and ‘multiplicity’ and utilizing players for their individual traits.
It’s too much of a “this is a systematic use of how the WR, RB, QB, TE are utilized, it doesn’t matter the name of the WR, RB, QB, TE on the field or on the roster, they’re expected to be used the same and do the same things.”
Grr. I just cant get off this topic lol it’s driving me nuts this Knapp hire and seeing RM/DA wanting to stay the course still.
Tomorrow, realistically a loss with poor offensive returns, SHOULD be Knapp getting his play-calling stripped. Getting someone in there who’ll dress Pryor, utilize Reece more, create better plays for McFadden, get more imaginative formations in there seeing Jones and McFadden and Reece and Ausberry on the field at once, and someone who has a knack for play-calling, or just get DA to make the play-calling, seeing as he’s a DC, then he’ll have better idea how a modern NFL defense will play-call, so has a better idea when they’ll blitz, what coverage and alignment trickery a defense will utilize on downs and distances and against certain types of offensive personnel/match-ups.
Knapp has no clue, he just has a scripted scheme and set utilization of offensive pieces.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
We need to fire the freakish spawn and the spawnor (Mark and his Mom).
Attenuate the Davis (AD BIH) taint, expel them as managers.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Maybe behind the scenes Palmer and DMAC and Saunders have already taken over the O play calling. Knapp will be there just to save a face plant. One can only hope. It is our only hope. Reggie has got to be losing his mind over this. How can he not.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Hopefully there’s dissent behind the scenes. I can’t imagine RM and DA would be content with the offense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
902;
Yeah i would say tomorrow is a big day.If Raiders lose Knapp should be gone. DA and Reggie will have to answer some tuff questions because the season will basically be lost if they stay the course.
Also add the fans and the expected “boos” that will going on at the coliseum on live TV. It could get ugly.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
#906…especially good point you raise about the fans. if they hope to continue to sell out the Coliseum they will need to keep that in mind, making offensive changes, fans wanting to see Pryor in packages, more explosive play-making from the talent we have in Reece, Jones, Goodson, McFadden, Moore, Criner, Streater, Ausberry.
Football is still an entertainment industry. Killing the fans slowly with a butterknife that is Knapps offense, isn’t going to inspire the fans. Even if we lose but are exciting to watch is something. Fans want to see the Griffins, Newtons, Pryors, the big vertical leaping catches and long open field running of the Megatrons and McCoys and Moores and McFaddens.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
You people are insane if you think Knapp will be fired after 3 games. Just stupid. Give it up
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
904,
I wonder how Reggie really feels about all this. Reg says he talks to Mark “every other day”….is Mark ticked bout how the team looks? Does he even care.
We don’t know much about Mark Davis.
I like to imagine Mark is reaming Reggie out and telling him turn things around quick or else….
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
GG Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
#906…especially good point you raise about the fans. if they hope to continue to sell out the Coliseum they will need to keep that in mind, making offensive changes, fans wanting to see Pryor in packages, more explosive play-making from the talent we have in Reece, Jones, Goodson, McFadden, Moore, Criner, Streater, Ausberry.
Football is still an entertainment industry. Killing the fans slowly with a butterknife that is Knapps offense, isn’t going to inspire the fans. Even if we lose but are exciting to watch is something. Fans want to see the Griffins, Newtons, Pryors, the big vertical leaping catches and long open field running of the Megatrons and McCoys and Moores and McFaddens.
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Yeah, that was another good thing about Hue’s offense. It was creative, entertaining, and had an identity. It sold out the coliseum.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
You people are insane if you think Knapp will be fired after 3 games. Just stupid. Give it up
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This truly a unique situation. Raider Nation has seen what Knapp can do already. It does not work and he should be cut. No need to waste 6 to 8 games on this nonsense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
#908….
0-7 with the same offensive butterknife struggles in a half-empty Coliseum, boos and a lot of negative media talk about McKenzie and DA
versus
0-3 with a new OC or new play-caller for week 4, promising sweeping changes on offense, Pryor packages, etc, in hopes of selling out the next month of games
?? what’s more insane ?? What’s that saying about insanity? That it’s continuing to do the same tired thing expecting different results. It’s insane to retain Knapp expecting different results. He is not going to be great or excel in the NFL. He’s had his time. He’s more of a stop-gap measure, someone ‘capable’, a ‘game-manager’ so to speak. He even comes here bringing the Houston system let alone his own one, but can’t even make it work well, and blames the offensive talent, rather than himself or the system.
Read his recent presser here: http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Coach-Knapp-Media-Session/544ba946-fb4b-4074-83f6-c260965c07e1
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
I think we could be pretty scary on O with TP Dmac an Reece in the backfield an Moore Ford and DHB on the outside talk about speed kills how do you defense that?
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Uhh…..probably the way the Giants did the Panthers on Thursday, when they looked like a Junior College offense.
The NFL is one with efficient heady POCKET PASSERS. Not some rinky-dink, looks great in September but does nothing in December offense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
You people are insane if you think Knapp will be fired after 3 games. Just stupid. Give it up
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Ok so he probably won’t but he should be. Or have Saunders take over.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Think about it people.
The 2005 KC Chiefs, Al Saunders last job as play-caller, finished #1 IN THE NFL in offense according to his wiki page.
Yet, he never has called plays since.
If he wanted to be an OC, he could. I think he is comfy in his “consultant” gig.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
GG-do you have Raider season tickets or do you just buy singles for select games?
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I smell a Raider W tomorrow!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I live in Australia these days Lefty. Been here since about 2005.
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
“Saunders would rejoin the Kansas City Chiefs in 2001 as the offensive coordinator when Vermeil came out of retirement. In his second stint with the Chiefs, Saunders built the NFL’s top offense, which was ranked #1 in the NFL from 2002–2005.[5]”
Technically even though Hue called the plays Saunders title with the Raiders was offensive coordinator. Should have left him with that title and let Knapp stay in Houston.
DA is a complete idiot.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Man I really need some good things to happen with my Raiders cause as a Raiders and Razorback fan things are very bleak. Just moved back to Arkansas from the Bay Area and now I’m having to babysit some folks here cause everyone’s on suicide watch after the last few Razorpiggie games. When I’m not helping with suicide watch I’m busy looking after some gals cause football is serious biz here in the deep south and as many of you know in times of loss domestic violence skyrockets so I got some lady friends that are scared, very scared! Bleak times indeed! So I personally need the Raiders to show me something tomorrow! We need a win for sure but at least the boys need to play with some heart and passion at least. Even if they lose, I need to see some major improvement or I may need to be talked back from the ledge myself. Not quite as mad with Knapp as many here but I’m certainly diss appointed cause of the promise of the last 2 years and now it seems like we may never win again.
On the other hand, I don’t think it should all be doom and gloom cause after all if Condo doesn’t get inadvet
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
#919
yep, 2011 was Saunders playbook, at least selected parts of it, and Hue play-called.
Saunders = proven NFL ability to create and scheme top offenses. Air Coryell roots. Akin to our roster talents.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
I’m new here. First timer. What I’d like to know is if the steelers are going to exploit our corners how are we going to defend that without true corners.
And if our o is really that bad how are we going to put points on the board especially against the steelere d.
Do we really have a chance or should we just mail it in. Only good thing I see about a loss is changes will probably go in motion and by the bye week we will see a new OC and system underway.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Have faith rosco! We are winning on Sunday!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
GG Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I live in Australia these days Lefty. Been here since about 2005.
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East coast or west.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RRRRAAAAAIIIIIIIIDDDDDEEERRRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
#924
Sydney NSW
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Speaking of GOODSON.. HUE could have really used this guy once DMAC was gone.. nice change up for BUSH.. Hue would have used him belee dat
anyhow. Lets put this Knapp talk on pause for a day or so. Tommorow there is work to be done by our OVERPAID PLAYERS. Who is gonna make a play??? STEP up Folk.
RAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDERSSSSSS
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
I have to step out for a couple hours, will return asap to read and post…
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Sweet. Use to vacation in Sydney but stayed in Manly. Took the ferry to Sydney everyday. Then off to Brisbane and the gold coast the off to cairns. Back to Sydney to fly back to LA. gone that route a half a dozen times. Would love to retire in Katoomba.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
The only time I have booed is when JaWalrus was QB, towards the end of his time here. I was fed up and he deserved it. Schmuck.
Otherwise, I don’t like to boo my own team.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I will say this JRUSS had a few decent games.. That Tampa bay game at end of the season he showed ton of promise. I think that offseason he ate alot.. and was on that drank.
Also that comeback win in DENVER when he didnt give his OL a high five.. just shrugged him off LOL.
That philly game in 09 too.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
TSR-sitting on your hands and making the place seem like a morgue says more than any boo and it probably has more of an impact on the players too.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Oakland 23
Pitt 17
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
The only time I have booed is when JaWalrus was QB, towards the end of his time here. I was fed up and he deserved it. Schmuck.
Otherwise, I don’t like to boo my own team.
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I think the fans will booing Knapp tomorrow. Can’t really blame the players. We know what they can do in the correct scheme.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
http://youtu.be/gDWEiHxdw1U
Greg papa.. final call.. Louis murphy scores game winning TD against PITT 09
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
DA will not start pryor unless we’re 0-8 or sumthn like that as obviously he is very stubborn.
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He must be a racist.
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Lol you never know theese days. But seriously Lefty DA can’t be the sharpest guy hiring knapptime. I really don’t see why he got the job anyway Den D wasn’t all that imo. John fox has always fielded a pretty good D.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Oops! Inadvertent knee to the head, we win game one. Then in Miami not like we looked like gangbusters but we held our own in the first half and if we hadn’t had so many 3 and outs and stalled drives in the 2 nd half, then the defense doesn’t wear down and we very possibly win that on as well.
But it hasn’t gone down that way and instead it’s all doom and gloom.
But I’m trying not to see it that way. There are many positives to be gleamed from this year, you just kinda have to dig (somewhat deep) to find them. I think Reggie an co. Are on the right path, I just hope it’s not gonna take a few years to get there. We got Palmer(arguably the best QB since Gannon who shows flashes of brilliance) and we got DMAC, DMO, Reece and DHB who all show brilliance so we really need to win now!!! Cause 2-3 years from now some of those amazing talents will be gone. For sure there will be more playmakers to come but these guys we have now are truly special and we have the core of something great that it would surely be a shame not to make some serious noise while they are here.
So come on Reggie, DA, Tarver, and yes even Knapp pull it together and lets make some noise now. This roster even with its flaws can be something special now!!
We can do it! We as Raider Nation can make it happen now! But I need to see something from the coaches players and fans now. We all must believe and will it to happen! No more doom and gloom! We all gotta believe and turn this thing around now!! And it starts tomorrow at the O!!!
Go Raiders!!!
Oakland 24 Pittsburg 14
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
http://youtu.be/1QVGuaX6_tQ
Greg Papa final call. JRUSS wins it with 35 seconds left. Pass to Chaz Schilens.
RAIIIIIIIIIIIIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSS
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
The only time I have booed is when JaWalrus was QB, towards the end of his time here. I was fed up and he deserved it. Schmuck.
Otherwise, I don’t like to boo my own team.
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Booing your own team is weak sauce.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
http://youtu.be/JzhY5Quok-E
in case anyone missed it. Stephen A smith on Jamarcus russell. (2011) Russell responed to Tom cable article.
Stephen a lets his feeling be known on Russell . WOW
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
The only time I have booed is when JaWalrus was QB, towards the end of his time here. I was fed up and he deserved it. Schmuck.
Otherwise, I don’t like to boo my own team.
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I think the fans will booing Knapp tomorrow.
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I don’t doubt it. I’ve seen them boo for a whole lot less. The boo birds will be there if the offense falters. Bank on it.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I agree I never like to boo my team, the only time is when guys are obviously dogging it and not giving a solid effort. Randy Moss comes to mind. Otherwise it’s not cool to boo your team!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
TSR-sitting on your hands and making the place seem like a morgue says more than any boo and it probably has more of an impact on the players too.
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Agree, Lefty. I’m just not into the booing scene. It makes me think of niner fan across the bay when there run in the 80s/90s came to an end or they didn’t have a perfect season. To me, it screams fickle fan.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
The only time I have booed is when JaWalrus was QB, towards the end of his time here. I was fed up and he deserved it. Schmuck.
Otherwise, I don’t like to boo my own team.
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Booing your own team is weak sauce.
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Exactly. Thank you.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Walking out is a much more powerful statement than sitting there booing and being a dumb fukk.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
typo in 943
when *their run
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
IF al could have a talk with Allen about tommorows game.. he would say
JUST WIN BABY!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Katoomba looks pretty cool from google images.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 pm
We may be without our two corners but they are without Harrison, Palomalu and Mendenhall. Raiders baby!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Fawq Michigan!
ND!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
http://youtu.be/JzhY5Quok-E
in case anyone missed it. Stephen A smith on Jamarcus russell. (2011) Russell responed to Tom cable article.
Stephen a lets his feeling be known on Russell . WOW = Most intelligent thing that loudmouth ever said.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Yep! Booing your own team makes you seem like a fair weather fan. And that doesn’t/shouldn’t be us Raider Nation especially after the last 10 years!!!
Win Lose or Tie Raider Nation till I Die!!!!!
We gotta keep supporting our Raiders no matter how dark the days!!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Power blocking:
Darren McFadden 70 YD TouchDown Run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJMMlSxn_Ms&feature=relmfu
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Darrius Heyward-Beys 58 Yard Catch vs New England Patriots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDQeuRGcY24&feature=related
Check out JC. Who said he can’t throw the deep ball?
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Denarius Moore AMAZING 50-Yard TD vs Bills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHV5Z1Ubty0&feature=related
JC Again! What? Palmer who?
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
….missed a few…..Fangsraiders Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Pryor=Newton=V.Young=McNabb=J. Russell=Elridge Dickey=Cunningham=Culpepper=Brooks=King Kong=DUMB BABOONS THAT WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
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Your post= don’t let me catch yo racist ass on the street. ======================================= OHHHHHHH look at me shake in my boots! LMAO!!!……like YOU Pavement Monkeys are NOT RACIST…thats why 98% of you voted for Obongo because THA had nothing to do with race…right? ….without sports your kind is totally worthless!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Our defensive backfield is hammered. The best chance the Raiders have to win is to run a ball control offense and keep the Pittsburgh offense off the field by controlling the clock. The catch is, they still have to score points to make it work. Not going to be easy.
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Hue Jackson trickery:
Denarius Moore sick Trick play touchdown vs Jets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9zCIjkevw&feature=related
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Well, you fellas have yourselves a goodnight. Gotta get up early for the game.
GO RAIDERS!!!
ONE NATION!!!
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
JC=another joke loser dumbo
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Jacoby Ford 47-yard game winning catch on Brandon Flowers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ1n_QKfL6o&feature=relmfu
JC again!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Jacoby Ford 47-yard game winning catch on Brandon Flowers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ1n_QKfL6o&feature=relmfu
JC again!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$44
Geez, another JC worshiper. The guy is a backup only, pine warmer.
Next you are going to ask AD to come back from the dead. God help us!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
I think we could be pretty scary on O with TP Dmac an Reece in the backfield an Moore Ford and DHB on the outside talk about speed kills how do you defense that?
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Uhh…..probably the way the Giants did the Panthers on Thursday, when they looked like a Junior College offense.
The NFL is one with efficient heady POCKET PASSERS. Not some rinky-dink, looks great in September but does nothing in December offense.
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We’ll see what you say in a few years and you better get used to it as more and more of these athletic QBs our comin outta college and that means change in the NFL its evolving if you will just like the college game. Al davis saw this and nabbed TP and I can’t wait for him to takeover the O.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
You guys predicting Raider win on Sunday really believe that or you just saying it for fun.
The positivity is cool though.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Wonder if Allen gets a gator aide shower if he wins his first game.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Jacoby Ford 47-yard game winning catch on Brandon Flowers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ1n_QKfL6o&feature=relmfu
JC again!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$44
Geez, another JC worshiper. The guy is a backup only, pine warmer.
Next you are going to ask AD to come back from the dead. God help us!
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No man. Just reminiscing when the Raiders were decent.
JC was not a bad QB. He was on the rise before the injury. Crazy to think were this team would be if JC and DAMAC did not get hurt. Playoffs or more.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Pete Rock & C. L. Smooth “They Reminisce Over You”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
It’s been a huge dry spell in Raiderland…not only for a nice win but even for any good news at all.
In the past we might at least have an acquisition to get excited about…or players saying they are gonna get it done etc.
Funny, I have not heard a single player or coach say “we’re gonna get it done..hang in there Raider Nation”…or something similar.
Nothing even resembling bravado…or even confidence.
I think Palmer said “we’ll take a look at the film and TRY to get better for Pittsburgh”.
And then of course we’re told to “be patient” and “keep things in perspective”.
Throw us a bone. Geez.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Jason Campbell? More weak sauce. Carson Palmer is the best quarterback the Raiders have had in maybe, ever.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 pm
here’s one for mistic regarding cam newton:
His career numbers right now: seven wins, 12 losses, 23 TDs, 22 picks, 787 rushing yards. Oh, and here were his seven victories: 2011 Tampa (twice), 2011 Washington, 2011 Indianapolis, 2011 Jacksonville, 2011 Houston (with T.J. Yates), 2012 Saints (with an interim interim coach). Not exactly a murderer’s row.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Hey DJ – we gotta win sometime!! Might as well start tomorrow! Trying to believe! Although I know it’s kinda hard these knappy days!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Saying “weak sauce” instantly invalidates all arguments. Hitler’s opposition in Germany called Nazism “weak sauce” and thus convinced many a German to follow Hitler’s ways. We don’t need more bloodshed, avoid “weak sauce” at all costs.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Jason Campbell? More weak sauce. Carson Palmer is the best quarterback the Raiders have had in maybe, ever.
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Palmer will not even be on the team next year. Mr INT Palmer never earned the starting QB spot. Should have open QB competition between JC and CP.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Jason Campbell? More weak sauce. Carson Palmer is the best quarterback the Raiders have had in maybe, ever.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You are hallucinating…..
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Ark,
Yeah…it’d be nice. We do have to win sometime? I guess so right? Ha. I’ve forgotten what it feels like to have a good Raider buzz going…
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Even just a signing of an impact type player in a position of need…there are many….or…SOMETHING good to happen.
Even a future I can believe in.
I’m having trouble buying in to any of the “happy vibes” Knapp is sending out.
He’s so inspirational…he and DA both.
I know. I’m just not keeping in in the proper “perspective” or being “patient” enough….
My bad.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
This season has been rough so far. I had higher aspirations than a top 5 pick. Now my only real hope is that the Raiders avoid this weak QB class. Every win from this point on will be a pleasant surprise.
The Steelers are a passing team. We have the three stooges playing in the secondary and I think Shemp tweaked a hammy. It really doesn’t look good this week.
I guess I’m still mourning our competent offense. RIP Watchable Raiders offense, 2010-2011, you were too young to go so soon.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RaidO Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Jason Campbell? More weak sauce. Carson Palmer is the best quarterback the Raiders have had in maybe, ever.
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Palmer will not even be on the team next year. Mr INT Palmer never earned the starting QB spot. Should have open QB competition between JC and CP.
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palmer won the job by being carson palmer and not being jason campbell. it was easy.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Even just a signing of an impact type player in a position of need…there are many….or…SOMETHING good to happen.
Even a future I can believe in.
I’m having trouble buying in to any of the “happy vibes” Knapp is sending out.
He’s so inspirational…he and DA both.
I know. I’m just not keeping in in the proper “perspective” or being “patient” enough….
My bad.
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We’ve been patient. They dangled competence in front of us for two years then snapped it away.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Even just a signing of an impact type player in a position of need…there are many….or…SOMETHING good to happen.
Even a future I can believe in.
I’m having trouble buying in to any of the “happy vibes” Knapp is sending out.
He’s so inspirational…he and DA both.
I know. I’m just not keeping in in the proper “perspective” or being “patient” enough….
My bad.
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They can take that “Patient” stuff and shove up there &%#
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 pm
kill the freakish spawn taint, extricate the club….
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Jason Campbell gets way too much love/hate depending on who is talking.
You can replace the name “Jason Campbell” with 97% of Raider players.
Try for instance: Carson Palmer, Pryor, McFadden, Kelly, Branch, Mitchell, Ol’ Stanford Route and Nnamdi.
It is what it is.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Yo brahs. Just finished an amazing set in SD with my major reggae band RASTA GANJA. I put my dreads wig on and jammed on this totally sick Celine Dion cover we do. Needless to say the crowd was crazy for it. Got lots of requests to come back next time with covers of Bette Midler, Judy Garland, and Babs (that’s Streisand nerds). These dudes know how to party! Bar is named Twig and Berries, and they have the margs flowin’! After slamming two pitchers, I passed out and awoke to this totally hot nubian putting a finger in the dark spot. This followed a weird dream I had of smoking a Jamaican cucumber.
HOLLA! DREADS!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Just finished updating the Party Boy 8000, dweebs. It’s now a fully operational robot boy, which I have always dreamed of. And you wondered why I call it the Party Boy.
NIZZLE in my WIZZLE!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Some other Beeech Dawg has accused me of being gay. Can anyone on here truly say there is more than a slight difference between us? I’m just making it plain, instead of hiding behind stripper references. I mean Part Boy, boy bands, cucumbers, fragrance, waxings. Hasn’t it always been obvious?
TRUTHIZZLE!
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Beeeech Dawg Says:
This is a FOOTBALL blog. Stop the nonsense.
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Man dr rob you really are obsessed w/ beech and his make believe life full of strippers and parties, to the point that now you claim to be his gay alter ego! Man too much!!
Your trying to discredit his fantasy life but it really just shows how much he owns you !
Not a big beech fan but dude your just plain sad and every bit the loser that his fake life is.
Difference is I think it’s for real with you!!!
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:07 am
Try Some Reality Says: Well, you fellas have yourselves a goodnight. Gotta get up early for the game. //////////////Why? you in Hawaii or something?
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:08 am
Rosco Bolleritapork Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Sweet. Use to vacation in Sydney but stayed in Manly. Took the ferry to Sydney everyday. Then off to Brisbane and the gold coast the off to cairns. Back to Sydney to fly back to LA. gone that route a half a dozen times. Would love to retire in Katoomba.
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Manly, know it well. A magnificent place, the whole “Northern Beaches” here from Manly to Newport.
Been to Brisbane and Gold Coast a little, again very nice. All those coastal beachy cities and towns along the East Coast and Perth/Fremantle on the West Coast are fantastic places and easy on the eyes.
Katoomba is a quaint town. Very homely and small. The air cleans out your lungs too.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 am
DJ Johnny Says:
You guys predicting Raider win on Sunday really believe that or you just saying it for fun.
The positivity is cool though.
///////////////////We WILL Win.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 am
beeeech dawg Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Some other Beeech Dawg has accused me of being gay. Can anyone on here truly say there is more than a slight difference between us? I’m just making it plain, instead of hiding behind stripper references. I mean Part Boy, boy bands, cucumbers, fragrance, waxings. Hasn’t it always been obvious?
TRUTHIZZLE!
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Yo Fag, you are a phony Beeeech Dawg, since you s/n has 4 “e’s” and the original Beeech Dawg only has 3 “e’s”.
I think you need to take your stank carcass with a toy duck down to west Hollywood and suck off about 100 of your kind. Be sure to swallow.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:12 am
RaidO , I liked JC but I like Palmer more. If you could choose, which would you take?
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:18 am
RaidO Says:
Hue Jackson trickery:
Denarius Moore sick Trick play touchdown vs Jets//////////////////////////I got DSL so you tube is not fun for me. I assume this was the reverse and will not be denied touchdown stretch? That was freaking awesome. Already knew he was a good receiver but then you knew he was a player.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 am
Well, I’ve either got to deal with the racist idiots or the gay idiots or the homophobic idiots or go back over to S&BPride and talk Raider football.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 am
At least MR isn’t racist, gay, or homophobic. Well a bit racist or race sensitive. He’s just a regular idiot.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 am
Don’t actually know if he’s gay or homophobic, but if so hes kept his mouth shut. Insert joke here.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 am
How about this finger tip catch from Moore…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENRX-24mIM&feature=related
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:28 am
Dr Rob/ beech dawgs gay alter ego – you’ve got nothing to say? I’m afraid you need help. You do realize that beech dawg with all his stripper parties is a make believe person, right? But. Yet he bothers you to the point that you now are his gay alter ego in an attempt to discredit or humiliate him. That’s just plain sad and a bit scary. You may want to seek out a therapist cause clearly you are obsessed with and owned by a character that is not real.
I’m not a big beech dawg fan, I find the repitious stripper story quite boring, but it really bothers you to the point that you go to great lengths to discredit him when he is not real.
But I’m afraid it’s not just an act with you. I think you need help dr rob/ gay beech dawg!
Please get help plus your routine is getting worse than his
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:30 am
rediaR Says: We’ve been patient. They dangled competence in front of us for two years then snapped it away.//////////////////dangled competence. great line.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 am
GG Says: How about this finger tip catch from Moore…//////////////Teasing me again, video sucks on DSL but I know which catch you’re talking about. I can replay it in my mind.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 am
Whoa, I’m the grand man.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 am
Arkraider Says:
September 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Man dr rob you really are obsessed w/ beech and his make believe life full of strippers and parties, to the point that now you claim to be his gay alter ego! Man too much!!
Your trying to discredit his fantasy life but it really just shows how much he owns you !
Not a big beech fan but dude your just plain sad and every bit the loser that his fake life is.
Difference is I think it’s for real with you!!!
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nope, not me. u must be one of beech’s toadies. that’s probably funnier than anything. but looking back over today’s postings, i have to say the newer beeech seems pretty gay only because he’s not trying to hide it behind the idiocy the original one spouts. i find both annoying, as my original beef with beeech was that besides his stupidity, he never talks raiders. it takes a special moron to come on here daily to talk about all the partying ur doing. hopefully neither one ever comes bacl, but that’s a fantasy bigger than beech’s.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Arkraider Says:
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:28 am
Dr Rob/ beech dawgs gay alter ego – you’ve got nothing to say? I’m afraid you need help. You do realize that beech dawg with all his stripper parties is a make believe person, right? But. Yet he bothers you to the point that you now are his gay alter ego in an attempt to discredit or humiliate him. That’s just plain sad and a bit scary. You may want to seek out a therapist cause clearly you are obsessed with and owned by a character that is not real.
I’m not a big beech dawg fan, I find the repitious stripper story quite boring, but it really bothers you to the point that you go to great lengths to discredit him when he is not real.
But I’m afraid it’s not just an act with you. I think you need help dr rob/ gay beech dawg!
Please get help plus your routine is getting worse than his
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not sure how it was decided i was the gay beeech (well, the 2nd gay beeech–LOL). when i first started scanning them, i actually thought it was the original doing some sort of joke i wasn’t up on, because so much of it sounded like the original. but then i realized the new one was trying to emphasize how gay the original reallt was, which i do agree with.
as for being obsessed with him, hardly. i haven’t been on here for a few days, as i have a life.
and finally, of course beeech isn’t real. duh. we all know that. well, actually i’ve seen a few idiots actually seeming to fawn over him, although i’ve always suspected it was his aliases, as no actual man could possibly really like him (i don’t think). but he’s real in the sense that he’s always incessantly posting his stupidity.
i do confess a weakness for making fun of him at times though.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:47 am
i’m reading some of them now and they’re kinda funny at times, i think. he seems to have the whole schtick down, only more gay. here come the cucumbers. that was funny.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 am
dr_robert, I think you and ark are missing the point. Nobody fvcking cares.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 am
Here’s a reason why it’s possible the Raiders win, or as someone brilliantly mentioned before (we have no turnovers and should be due)…Giordano playing more snaps at FS.
A post I posted on another site…
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It’s a game to be wary of. Steelers do have some key players out, the Raiders D is actually not that bad (they got blown out midway in the 4th versus Dolphins in extreme heat), but week 1 and first 3 qtrs they were doing well. Knapp knows his job is on the line, so it’s a bit of a make or break game for the Raiders offense/season. Plus all WRs now healthy (Ford IR). Guessing the Raiders will throw it a lot more to try to open it up for McFadden later. Raiders are due for turnovers too, we have none after two weeks, so it’s bound to happen. If Huff is playing CB as speculated, means Giordano is gonna be playing FS and he has a knack for getting INTs.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 am
dr_robert, I think you and ark are missing the point. Nobody fvcking cares.
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ur very serious, i can tell.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 am
RaidO Says: Palmer will not even be on the team next year. Mr INT Palmer never earned the starting QB spot. Should have open QB competition between JC and CP.//////////// Hadn’t read this when I posted 992. Answers that question. Means you’re an idiot, but at least we have answered the question.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 am
Does everyone realize the Raiders have the 15th rated offense which is higher than the Stealers.It stands to reason that offense will put up points sooner or later.At least we should hope so.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 am
Steelers aint scaring me, Lefty. Not as much as Knapps play calling.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:03 am
newsflash–the steelers are without their two best defensive players, and have no running game, like us. but they don’t even have their running back to get it started with. i suspect they may try to go “gannon” on us and pass the ball 50 times like we did to them. hope not.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:03 am
Hopefully he’s smelling the coffee.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 am
isn’t defending/liking jason campbell kinda like being a fan of the toyota camry, the final destination movies, or bud light? i mean okay, they’re all okay and stuff, but who can say they’re actually good? palmer might not be a ferrari, but he’s at least like a mustang. who would choose a camry over a mustang?
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 am
15th ranked offense and the running game hasn’t even showed up yet.Maybe things aren’t as desperate as they seem.I’m not defending Knapp,just pointing out the offensive stats.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 am
Bud light=ok?You are joking,right.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 am
You ever tasted a light beer. you can’t.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 am
I haven’t given up on Knapp yet and am not certain the scheme is bad. I have not liked a lot of the play calling with the 1st down pass fail and give it to Dmac every single time on 2nd. If I know its coming, I think their ‘D’ does to.
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
303Raider: Raiders 20 Steelers 17
Aluminum Can: Raiders 20 Steelers 17
ArkRaider: Go Raiders!!! Oakland 24 Pittsburg 14
Burton Guster Says: Raiders 28 Steelers 21
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 24 Steelers 21 Seabass wins it
hendu Says: Raiders 23,and Franco 17.
Klas Tjorborn: Steelers 35 Raiders 24
qodrn: Raiders 24 Pittsburgh 23
RaiderDanny: Steelers 35 Raiders 10
RaiderRockstar Says: Raiders 27 Squeelers 24
WA Raider Says: Oakland 23 Pitt 17
September 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
All of you fake ass fans can get the hell off the bandwagon before this game here today. Please.