Allen, Raiders not too absorbed in victory
By Steve Corkran
Monday, September 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen turned 40 and notched his first victory as an NFL head coach over the weekend. Yeah, so, Allen seemed to say Monday. That’s nice, but there isn’t any time to celebrate much in the NFL, especially when Peyton Manning is your next opponent.
So it is that Allen conducted his weekly news conference, then headed off to begin breaking down videotape of Manning and the Denver Broncos, less than 24 hours after the Raiders beat the Pittsburgh Steelers 34-31 at the Oakland Coliseum.
Allen said he celebrated the victory with some friends Sunday night. During the week, he’s all business, searching for a way to keep his players on task and underscoring the importance of the upcoming game.
Allen drove home the point last week by handing out wooden bats to everyone on the roster.
Bats? Yes, bats. Let’s go to outside linebacker Philip Wheeler for an explanation.
“The whole team got the bats,” Wheeler said. “That was the theme, man. Coach D.A. was telling us, ‘Man, it’s going to be one of those fights you got to swing our bats for 60 minutes, and that’s what we did. We had to bring the wood, and they gave us the wooden bats. We brought the wood and we swung it for 60 minutes.”
Allen and quarterback Carson Palmer stressed how physical the game would be against the Steelers and the need to stand up to the Steelers and match them blow for blow.
In the end, it was the Raiders who delivered the knockout punch in the form of a 43-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski as time expired.
The Raiders improved to 1-2, tying the Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs for second place in the AFC West, one game behind the San Diego Chargers.
It doesn’t get any easier for the Raiders, if history is any judge, finding a way to beat Manning, defensive tackle Richard Seymour said.
“He’s definitely the best that I’ve faced,” Seymour said. “You name all the accolades, he has them. He’s probably the best quarterback to suit up. He’s as good as advertised. They don’t build the league around him and his commercials and that sort of thing for nothing. He’s the real deal. And he’s a team guy.
“From my years in facing him, seeing him over at the Pro Bowl as well, he’s also a great guy off the field as well. So he’s good for the NFL, obviously the Broncos are fortunate to have him. But see if we can’t make him pay this week.”
Wheeler was a teammate of Manning’s the past four seasons, when both played for the Indianapolis Colts. He said he playing against Manning in practice every day helped expedite his learning curve as an NFL player.
“He made me a great player, just by playing against him, hearing him talk, hear him talk to his offense,” Wheeler said. “Like pointing out things against the defense when I was on defense. I was like, ‘Wow, he’s looking at that aspect of our defense.’ He made me a great player just being around him.”
Wheeler is hopeful of using some of the knowledge he gleaned to help the Raiders solve the riddle that is deciphering all the gibberish that Manning spews at the line of scrimmage in an attempt to throw off the defense and get his team into a favorable position before the play.
Wheeler, no doubt, remembers more than he lets on, and Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver certainly will pump him for information all week.
“I used to know a couple of things, a couple of sounds,” Wheeler said. “The run to the right, I used to know it. One of them was like ’stadium’ or something like that. I forgot ‘em, man. He didn’t play last year when I was there, and it’s been a little while, so I’m going to have to call one of my boys that played with me that remember them.”
Yeah, OK, Philip.
– Tight end Brandon Myers caught all four passes thrown his way against the Steelers. That kept intact a rather impressive streak for Myers.
He has caught all 15 passes thrown him the first three games. By comparison, no other player in the NFL has caught more than nine passes without a drop or incompletion.
Myers is second on the Raiders in receptions (15) to running back Darren McFadden (17) and first in receiving yards (206). Not bad for a guy that was an afterthought in the passing game his first three seasons. He already has set a career-high in yards. He will tie his career-best in receptions with his next catch.
– The Raiders committed 14 penalties for 102 yards their first three games this season. They committed 30 for 271 yards their first three games last season.
What’s worse, the Raiders had more penalties (15) and penalty yards (131) in their first game last season than they have so far this season.
The Raiders set league records for penalties (163) and yards penalized (1,358) last season. They are on pace for 75 for 544 yards this season.
The key, Allen said: “Just do your job, be disciplined, do it right, don’t do things that are going to cost your football team. And like I said before, at the end of the day, I have to do a good job of bringing it to their attention, the players have to do the job of getting it corrected, and they’ve done a nice job of that through three games.”
Seymour said Allen and the coaching staff are succeeding where so many of their predecessors failed.
“It’s a credit to the coaching staff and also the players on the field in terms of everybody being held accountable for their own actions,” Seymour said. “One penalty is one penalty too much. If everybody just said, ‘Well, I only got one, then you’ve got 11 on defense and 11 on offense and we still would be setting records.”
– Yes, McFadden rushed for 113 yards against the Steelers on Sunday. However, it’s way too early to declare the Raiders rushing woes ironed out.
McFadden’s first carry went for 64 yards against the Steelers. Take away that run, and he averaged only 2.9 yards on his 17 other carries. Also, he is averaging 3.8 for the season, but only 2.4 on the 43 carries other than the 64-yarder.
For what it’s worth, McFadden said his long run was a called play, not an audible by Palmer, as some suggested. McFadden said the blocking scheme remained the same Sunday as it was the first two games.
“It’s something that we’ve been doing,” McFadden said. “We always tell ourselves, you just have to keep hitting it, you’re going to get 1 yard here, 2 yards there, eventually you’re going to break the big ones. (Sunday) we were doing that.”
– Running back Taiwan Jones played quite a bit on special teams Sunday. However, he didn’t play a single snap on offense.
Jones bobbled a kick return and mishandled a toss from fullback Marcel Reece in the regular-season opener. Allen said at the time that Jones’ playing time would be affected by those miscues.
Man, Allen wasn’t kidding.
By comparison, backup Mike Goodson played three snaps, with McFadden on the field for the 54 other offensive plays.
– The Raiders had difficulty getting their hands on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on Sunday. Yet, when it counted most, rookie linebacker Miles Burris got his arms around Roethlisberger and forced him to make an errant pass on a third-down play.
That forced the Steelers to punt, and the Raiders marched down the field for a game-winning field goal.
“I just ran upfield, I was going to have to take the back man-to-man if he came out my way,” Burris said. “He went out the other side, slipped through, and I got (Roethlisberger) at his ankles. He’s a strong guy, still got the ball off, but it was great to get off the field at that point.”
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September 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Word
September 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Where were ya yesterday Old Kell?…I had a can of pork n beans for you, and some greens. Maybe next time?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Back at you
September 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
KK was riding around in his bright red Kia convertible with his I hate Al sign
September 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
And they shouldn’t be too absorbed in this 1 victory. Are ya kidding me? Very long season and lots of work to do. Still hoping we continue to win. Thanks Mr. Cork
September 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
QB / Cost
Cutler – Two 1st Rounders, one 3rd rounder
Kolb – High 1st rd. player (Rodgers-Cromartie), high 2nd round pick.
RGIII – Three 1st Rounders (likely high), one 2nd rounder
Tim Tebow – 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th round picks used in drafting him.
McNabb – 2nd and 4th
PALMER – Mid 1st, mid 2nd.
Doesn’t seem that crazy.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
D.A bought wooden bats for everyone on the team? That’s awesome.
Hue would have bought them manis/pedis.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
The whole team got the bats
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Is that our 2012 slogan?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
EDIT:
QB / Cost
Cutler – Two 1st Rounders, one 3rd rounder, Kyle Orton
Kolb – High 1st rd. player (Rodgers-Cromartie), high 2nd round pick.
RGIII – Three 1st Rounders (likely high), one 2nd rounder
Tim Tebow – 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th round picks used in drafting him.
McNabb – 2nd and 4th
PALMER – Mid 1st, mid 2nd.
Doesn’t seem that crazy.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
KK was riding around in his bright red Kia convertible with his I hate Al sign
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LOL, Kell probably didn’t even watch game.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Palmer is the man. last year against denver he had 3 td and 3 ints. I expect it to be a clean game from him this time around.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I hope Coach gives the players bats each week. I like that philosphy Coach is preaching and selling. Coach is 40 and looks to be 20 years old.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Give them machetes next week
I hate Dungver
September 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
So who won the game pick last week?
I know I was close
September 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Bill Simmons compared Christian Ponder to Rich Gannon.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Great win. Some great things from the offense coming together. BUT … the D needs to develop a pass rush to help the secondary.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Give Ponder a sane center and it’s Super Bowl victory time!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Give Ponder a sane center and it’s Super Bowl victory time!
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Good one!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
That one is mine
qodrn1 Says:
September 23rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
303Raider: Raiders 20 Steelers 17
Aluminum Can: Raiders 20 Steelers 17
ArkRaider: Go Raiders!!! Oakland 24 Pittsburg 14
Bob Marley: Raiders 20 Steelers 1y
Burton Guster Says: Raiders 28 Steelers 21
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 24 Steelers 21 Seabass wins it
hendu Says: Raiders 23,and Franco 17.
Klas Tjorborn: Steelers 35 Raiders 24
La Milicia Negra Says: Steelers 34 Raiders 20
nwr8r Says: Raiders win today 19-16.
PlunkforHOF Says: My beloved Raiders 24 Sex Offenders 17
Plunketthead: Raiders 30 Old man Ben & the steelturds 27
qodrn: Raiders 24 Pittsburgh 23
RaiderDanny: Steelers 35 Raiders 10
raider till i die Says: Raiders 58 steelers 17
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 17 Pittsburgh 10.
RaiderRockstar Says: Raiders 27 Squeelers 24
WA Raider Says: Oakland 23 Pitt 17
September 24th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Big Ben is a great escape artist. Hard to sack that dude.
We’ll see what type of pass rush we have this week with that statue Manning back there.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Paradise…didn’t you tell me that you would watch the game with Steelers fans and if the Raiders win you would tell them…”In your face”? Was it you or Danny? If so…Awesome!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
i have officially destroyed beeech. no thanks necessary. u are all welcome.
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This is just so great
Nob Bust and Albert Bigelo Klas, when you’re done patting each other on the weiners for all your awesome junior detective work, remember this -
My super dope VIP Reggae Party Boat operates out of Marina Del Rey. Always has.
Please, goofballs, ask any of my Brahs on the blog
This may actually be the greatest joint meltdown in the history of the blog
WRECKS MOS DEF N EFFECT, WIZZLE
September 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
True Manning is a statue …. thats why I believe he will make mistakes this week, Tannehill and Ben avoided pressures with their legs.
Manning will go down.
Speaking of mobility has Palmer even been sackes!? LoL …. you see his reverse spin scramble and throw on the run to Moore for TD?!
wow i was shocked
September 24th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Fun early season stats:
QB Rating: Cutler 31st. Vick 29th. Brees 25th. Stafford 21st. Kolb 3rd.
Palmer is 2nd in the NFL with 128 pass attempts. (Brees 1st)
Manning was sacked: 10 times in 2009. 8 times so far in 2012.
QBs with 0 INTs this season: Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert, Kolb.
Robert Griffin has outrushed McFadden, Michael Turner, Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson, D’Angelo Williams, and Marshawn Lynch.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Paradise…didn’t you tell me that you would watch the game with Steelers fans and if the Raiders win you would tell them…”In your face”? Was it you or Danny? If so…Awesome!
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Maybe? I drink a lot.
Ahahhahaaha My boss is a steelers fan, he has yet to repsond to my e-mails or come by my desk lol
RAISE!!!!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Robert, the guy who owns Star Party Cruises name is Robert Forster.
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Albert Bigelo Klas, you should contact Mr. Forster about his party cruise and start talking to him about all the fun you have on the football blog
That would be so great, my Blog Brahs and I would really enjoy hearing how that turns out
Please Goober, do it just for the laughs
KILLIN’ FRESH WAX
September 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
johnny mastro is in the house! master beeechum, how do u pick up so many strippers when u look like a little hobbit with sunglasses on?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
25.raiderinparadise Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Paradise…didn’t you tell me that you would watch the game with Steelers fans and if the Raiders win you would tell them…”In your face”? Was it you or Danny? If so…Awesome!
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Maybe? I drink a lot.
Ahahhahaaha My boss is a steelers fan, he has yet to repsond to my e-mails or come by my desk lol
RAISE!!!!!!
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lol…ok. too funny Man.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
– Running back Taiwan Jones played quite a bit on special teams Sunday. However, he didn’t play a single snap on offense.
Jones bobbled a kick return and mishandled a toss from fullback Marcel Reece in the regular-season opener. Allen said at the time that Jones’ playing time would be affected by those miscues.
Man, Allen wasn’t kidding.
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This is a mistake by DA.
Give the Taimonster some touches and he will come through. Taiwan is a weapon we should be using.
TP should also be active on Sundays.
Show a wildcat play. Make opposing defenses spend a few hours preparing for that, even if you don’t use it much.
Don’t like TP being a weekly inactive and Taiwan shouldn’t be buried in the dog house.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
johnny mastro is in the house! master beeechum, how do u pick up so many strippers when u look like a little hobbit with sunglasses on?
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Nob, thank you so much for being you
Now that your clever detective work has outed me (I’m so embarrassed, seriously), please call me at your soonest convenience so we can talk
Remember, just start talking for as long as you can about the blog and don’t worry if I pretend I don’t don’t know who you are
Whatever you do, just keep talking about blogging and stuff. Maybe even read your awesome rap to me over the phone, that would be wonderful
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
September 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Give them machetes next week
I hate Dungver
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LOL!!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Looks like Plunketthead wins week 3:
Plunketthead: Raiders 30 Old man Ben & the steelturds 27
September 24th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I agree Taiwan needs to be in the rotation. Dmac can’t carry every play.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
NEVER WILL I POST MY SEASON TICKETS FOR SALE. DID I JUST MISS THE GAME OF THE SEASON! F###!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
more fun early-season stats:
Brandon Myers has more receiving yards than Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, Vincent Jackson, Jimmy Graham, and Marques Colston.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raidergil650 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
NEVER WILL I POST MY SEASON TICKETS FOR SALE. DID I JUST MISS THE GAME OF THE SEASON! F###!
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You an ass h*le for selling tickets.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Nob & Albert Klas, please don’t run away from your epic joint meltdown
Now that my real identity has been revealed, I’m dying to talk with you both!
Please, please, please, call me at the party boat hotline # you found on the yelp post.
A conference call with both of you would be hilari – totally sweet, we can really get to know each other.
Again, if I act like I don’t know you guys, its all just a big act. Just keep talking about the blog and what a huge tool you think I am.
Very excited about hearing from both of you super soon
September 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
johnny mastro is in the house! master beeechum, how do u pick up so many strippers when u look like a little hobbit with sunglasses on?
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Nob, thank you so much for being you
Now that your clever detective work has outed me (I’m so embarrassed, seriously), please call me at your soonest convenience so we can talk
Remember, just start talking for as long as you can about the blog and don’t worry if I pretend I don’t don’t know who you are
Whatever you do, just keep talking about blogging and stuff. Maybe even read your awesome rap to me over the phone, that would be wonderful
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
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interesting that after pretending it’s not u and telling me to call u, u keep talking about the phone call being to u.
“Maybe even read your awesome rap to ME over the phone”
hahaha!!! gotcha!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Jones needs more reps old fool kell?…lets see the link that supports your theory please.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Goodson is better that Jones and is deservedly the #2 RB.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
turned my mnt davis.nose bleed 26 dollars into 120 x 4. its hard times. family first. RAIDERS!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
can any of you wannabe thug fans do something about beech and dr. robert?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Bring Jones in on run plays and screens and just have him run wind sprints up and down the field while giving Moore and Hagan a blow. Then send Moore deep after about 5 of those and see how their DB’s hold up.
Man, we are thin as hell right now.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
master beeechum–dj johnny
johnny mastro!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
interesting that after pretending it’s not u and telling me to call u, u keep talking about the phone call being to u.
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LOL at this going over your head.
You should just REALLY leave it alone.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Raidergil
why would you own mt. davis seats? Isn’t it better to watch from home than from up there?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Beeecham, if that isn’t you, what is your real name? If you so cool, why hide behind your silly handle?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Jones to WR that is^
September 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Palmer has 62% completion …. 870 passing yards and 5TD to 2int (both picks warranted) junk time @ MIA and Moore slipped yesterday.
I will say WHEN he outplays Manning Sunday the media will start talking about him.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
can any of you wannabe thug fans do something about beech and dr. robert?
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LOL
September 24th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Jones will get his reps. I like having mcfadden in there as a three down back. Until Goodsen blows it he should be the primary back up.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Raidergil650 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
NEVER WILL I POST MY SEASON TICKETS FOR SALE. DID I JUST MISS THE GAME OF THE SEASON! F###!
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Thanks to folks like you, the Steelers had quite a following there. Oh well, your loss and at least we got to rub it in all their faces. Hope you’ve learned your lesson. Never sell ou like that again! Embarrassing.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
interesting that after pretending it’s not u and telling me to call u, u keep talking about the phone call being to u.
“Maybe even read your awesome rap to ME over the phone”
hahaha!!! gotcha!
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“gotcha”
so classic
You’re absolutely right, Nob. You and Albert Klas totally got me.
Now hurry and call ME so we can talk all about the blog and what a huge douche you think I am
Please please remember to keep talking no matter what I say, even if I pretend to have no idea who you guys are
Just trust me on this and report your conversation back to the blog as quickly as possible
September 24th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Alex… Agree…
September 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
alex
sec 344 rw9. Nice view I love it! A RAIDER GAME IS A RAIDER GAME NO MATTER WERE U SIT!
September 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Man, we are thin as hell right now.
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The creative mind would disagree with this.
I see more opportunities to get Myers and Ausberry on the field together with Moore, DMac, and Reece.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Beeech, I don’t think you are Johnny Mastro or Robert Forster. You probably dish washer on reggae boat.
September 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
McFadden only has 61 touches through 3 weeks, on pace for about 200 touches (not rushes, combined touches) for the season.
Sure seems like he’s played more, huh?
September 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
j hill–u really think i didn’t “get it”? it’s his chosen language that gives him away.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
I WILL.NEVER SELL MY TICKETS AGAIN! I LEARNED MY LESSON TRUST ME! LETS GO RAIDERS!
September 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Now hurry and call ME so we can talk all about the blog and what a huge douche you think I am
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well u got that part right.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Manning looks beatable… He’s gonna try and dink and dunk the Defense … He’s not gonna beat them deep… and the Donk D can be run on …The Raiders have a history of winning in Donktown…
September 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
johnny mastro–why do u talk about our dicks so much?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
I hate the fugn Donks
September 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
So Knapp and Allen are pleading for patience, but Taiwan Jones bobbles a couple of balls, doesn’t even turn them over, and he’s put completely on ice for the better part of three games?
OK.
Do as I say, not as I do.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
j hill–u really think i didn’t “get it”? it’s his chosen language that gives him away.
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Just when you think it can’t get any better
September 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I agree Taiwan needs to be in the rotation. Dmac can’t carry every play.
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Afternoon Fellas,
Great Win!
T Jones needs to earn the trust of the staff.
When given another opportunity, he needs to make the most of it.
He’ll benefit greatly with an improving O line.
I want this kid to be great.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I believe in some Hindu religions, if you’re a fly and are deemed a “bad” fly, you come back reincarnated as a Beech/Dr. Robert internet he-said-she-said argument.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
fingers Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Manning looks beatable… He’s gonna try and dink and dunk the Defense … He’s not gonna beat them deep… and the Donk D can be run on …The Raiders have a history of winning in Donktown…
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Exactly … Manning will rely on his short-intermediate passing game … we will need some tipped/batted passes.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
beeech—would u agree that johnny mastro sucks as a musician? cmon say it.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I believe in some Hindu religions, if you’re a fly and are deemed a “bad” fly, you come back reincarnated as a Beech/Dr. Robert internet he-said-she-said argument.
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u can be reincarnated as an argument? stupid religion.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Goodson is better that Jones and is deservedly the #2 RB.
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As of Today, I agree.
I thought Fumbles would be #2 at the time Reg traded for Him.
Jones has greater “potential”, imo, but He has to demonstrate.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
T Jones needs to earn the trust of the staff.
When given another opportunity, he needs to make the most of it.
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Wassup Len!
Agree completely.
Chris, you know Jones’ body language on opening night was terrible. Meanwhile Goodson is playing well. Why should Jones just be given anything?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
It’s gonna be the typical Afc west slugfest but I think the Raiders are gonna go in there and take it…gotta be mistake free again… Or close to it… Thought Palmer did a good job of shrugging off that int…oline was very solid…special teams was better … Def corners , well you saw it…but I thought the corners were a tad better yesterday…
September 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Jones will get touches again … just too explosive to not. It just depends what the gameplan dictates. Until then, he will be a great special teams guy.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
So Knapp and Allen are pleading for patience, but Taiwan Jones bobbles a couple of balls, doesn’t even turn them over, and he’s put completely on ice for the better part of three games?
OK.
Do as I say, not as I do.
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LOL
My Dad used the Do as I say line on me.
Hard to swallow, but I’ll trust the staff in regrads to Taiwan.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Broncos are banged up too. Porter got injured yesterday, on of their LBs, and McGahee. Another LB may get suspended.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
i like watching the broncos, cowboys, and patriots lose almost as much as i like seeing the raiders win.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
no way I’m trusting Taiwan’s 16 career carries at any point Sunday. Running? Nope. Blitz pickup? Nope.
maaaaaaaybe I trust him to bring DMac some water. Maaaaaaaybe.
That said, he’s exciting as heck to watch run and I think he gets 5 carries vs Broncos.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
T Jones needs to earn the trust of the staff.
When given another opportunity, he needs to make the most of it.
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Wassup Len!
Agree completely.
Chris, you know Jones’ body language on opening night was terrible. Meanwhile Goodson is playing well. Why should Jones just be given anything?
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Waassup?
A Raider F..ing Win!
LOL
Feels good.
How you doin Today J?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Manning seems like he’s getting off slow the first half…. Gotta watch for that comeback … Cant let up the pressure…. Thought Seymour played a little better in the 4th qtr…need more outta him ..
September 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
With all the “don’t touch the QB” rules in place, Palmer can easily QB at a decent level for another 4 years.
I think 1st round next year has changed from QB to pass-rushing OLB/DE.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
On the road you have to be able to run the ball effectively. Look at Ben … 384 yards and 4 TD 0 picks and he lost. Need to run the ball well, road wins aren’t easy in the NFL.
Brandon Myers Sunday 20 catches on 20 targets for 304 yards and 5 TD’s.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Agree… Nothing much better than watching a donkey loss…or a choker loss….toppedoff with a Raider Win … Good day yesterday..
September 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
GB on prime time 3 weeks straight…
ENOUGH OF THIS H0RSESH!T ALREADY GOODELL!
September 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Palmers got more run game than I thought he had…Was impressed with his Run..
September 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Taiwan isn’t much of an option, because when he comes in the game defenses can key in on him.
He can’t block, is not really that great catching the ball, and isn’t going to be very effective running up the middle.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
fingers Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Palmers got more run game than I thought he had…Was impressed with his Run..
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2nd leading rusher on the team lol …. 4 rushes for 12 yards
September 24th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Taiwan isn’t much of an option, because when he comes in the game defenses can key in on him.
He can’t block, is not really that great catching the ball, and isn’t going to be very effective running up the middle.
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He’s gotta step up and round out His game.
He is an explosive play talent.
It’s up to Him how it plays out.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Why should Jones just be given anything?
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Simple. Go to the tape.
Start with the great display TJ put on against the Saints last pre-season. If you can watch that tape and not see what TJ can bring to an offense then you’re missing the boat.
Then you watch TJ’s work in the 2nd qtr of the Detroit pre-season game this year.
TJ will make plays if he’s given a chance. Remains my MUP pick.
If Goodson didn’t get doghoused (or even cut) after his showing in AZ, there’s no way to justify TJ not being utilized at all based on the SD game. The botched reverse wasn’t even his fault. That was on Reese, altgough TJ screwed up big time after recovering the fumbled pitch.
TJ>Goody
September 24th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Has Monte Poole apologized yet for saying that we were better off with Hue?
It took 7 weeks for Hue’s “explosive” offense to put up 34 points.
Just sayin.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
And that was against the pitiful Donkeys, not a Dick Lebeau defense.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Wow, only 3 penalties. Pitt has 10 and lost.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Anyone have Myers for MUP? If so, you’re running away with it do far.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
*so far
September 24th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
No I had Brandon Myers for Superbwol MVP instead
September 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
T Jones in the NO pre season game is what convinced me he could play.
THAT game and flash has been lacking for a while.
The ability is there, but He has to be more than a one trick pony.
I want Taiwan to succeed and make an impact for the Raiders.
He has to Earn the opportunity.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
3 penalties?…wheres the link? Put another token in your Googlie machine old timer, post the link. Thank you.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Wow, only 3 penalties. Pitt has 10 and lost.
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Did you even watch the game yesteday?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
*yesterday
September 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
If Goodson didn’t get doghoused (or even cut) after his showing in AZ
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You mean right after he damn near got his neck broke????
He showed a lot of heart by even being on the field man. Don’t see how anyone can criticize the guy for that game. That’s some cold shhhhhh.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
To be fair, it took Hue 7 weeks to have Carson Palmer.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I think TJ has earned a carry or two.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Kell, did you watch the game yesteday?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
99,
Jones and DVD are the same player, imo.
It seems that this Reggime wants tough, physical players.
I think his timidness on the returns did him in. Can’t look shook on the field.
I understand his potential. I understood DVDs too. Seems like the coaches are cool on Jones like they cooled on DVD. Hope he shakes it off.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I think TJ has earned a carry or two.
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How and when????
Do you think Goodson should be benched?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Saw a prop bet on ARodgers passing yards tonight.
Was surpised they had that at 207. Thought that was really LOW.
Tells me the books are expecting the Seattle defense to give him fits.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Klas questioning KK.
tr0ll on tr0ll = priceless
September 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Call a few plays he can bust for big gains. He’s probably the fastest player on the team, fluid.
Why not?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
D-uh,…me thinks TJ has earned a carry or two…d-uh. Did I ever tell you guys I own a country in Europe?…let me finish off this bottle of ripple and I will tell you all about it.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Call a few plays he can bust for big gains. He’s probably the fastest player on the team, fluid.
Why not?
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Did you watch the game yesterday?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Only 16 carries, but Taiwan is averaging 4.6 yards a carry, no fumbles.
Not like he’s earned the right to NOT play.
Just not vs. Steelers with game on line and blitz pickup crucial.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
99,
Jones and DVD are the same player, imo.
It seems that this Reggime wants tough, physical players.
I think his timidness on the returns did him in. Can’t look shook on the field.
I understand his potential. I understood DVDs too. Seems like the coaches are cool on Jones like they cooled on DVD. Hope he shakes it off
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I hadn’t drawn this comparison in my mind, but I think you could be on to something J Hill.
However I go back to the NO pre season game and he appeared fearless when running between the tackles. IDK
September 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
If I remeber havnt we beat Denver 2 years in a row in Denver ??
September 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
LOL, Kell didn’t even watch game. Gets all his facts from the Google machine.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Jones and DVD are the same player, imo.
It seems that this Reggime wants tough, physical players.
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Neither comes to mind when you’re talking tough/physical.
TJ’s leap to get out of bounds to set up the FG against Det impressed the hell out of me. Great effort and smarts. Situational awareness and guts.
I love the kid.
What’s he supposed to do to get back on the field ?
Recover a Jani pooch like he did against the Jets last year ?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Old fool Kell was at the barber shop during the game, and all they watch there on that 19 inch tv is Sanford and Son.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Rodgers under/over passing at 207? Usually those too good to be true lines scare me, but I would’ve run with that one. Screw the 12th man. Rodgers will go for at least 290.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
yeah NATION great feeling great feeling..
The Carson first pass had me on the BOTTLE hard.. But what a way to get it done, in the END..
SEASON IS ALIVE
September 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Isn’t it kinda weird why does every player keep mentioning accountability was no one accountable before?? Is this how it used to be ?? I’m glad to see were turning into a diciplin organasation modern to for that matter love u al Davis but man were headed onthe right direction
September 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Good to hear that DHB should be ok. That was effin scary to see…
Great TEAM win! They never gave up, refused to quit….
CP3 sure did not look like the washed up old has been, that some of YOU PEOPLE were fond of calling him…
FrankenPeyton must go down, and go down hard!……
September 24th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
1. Its not about TJ being in the doghouse. I dont see this regime as playing games type. Its about this staff being able to trust Mr. TJ. We cant afford turnovers. He bobbled the opening kickoff 1st game of season… he then somewhat f’d up on that reverse.
However HE WILL GET HIS TOUCHES.. believe that. its about game planning and when he doest he best make the most of it.
2. We dont have the type of D to think Manning cant throw the deep ball. Trust me , we are in no position to be not weary of the deep ball.
3. This will be another game where we better tackle. Quick slants or bubble screens to Deymarious thomas and he has the stregnth to stiff arm the cbs and take it for a TD
September 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Jones is a touchdown waiting to happen. DA is making a mistake by benching him. You could argue he’s right behind DMC and Moore in terms of big play threats on this offense. Everyone’s like, what has he done? Well, guy is only in his second season, was hurt much of last year and has been put on ice. Hard to make plays when you’re not in the game.
The eyeball test tells me the kid should be getting 5+ touches per game on offense and maybe as many as 10.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
I love effort and smarts.
Nice dig on Goodson…lol
Taiwan isn’t getting screwed by the staff, He’s having to earn the right to be on the field.
Plain….Simple
September 24th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
99,
I am thinking the books may think that Russell Wilson will struggle and this game could get away from Seattle, and Rodgers could just be handing it off at the end of the game.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Jones is a touchdown waiting to happen.
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With zero career TD’s?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
This regime is not in the business of playing games with players or doghouse type things.
If they think u are ready.. u will play. DA needs to trust u IMO .. like 100 percent trust
September 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Jones is a touchdown waiting to happen.
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With zero career TD’s?
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JFB, You know what he meant.
Hard ass. lol
September 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Rodgers under/over passing at 207? Usually those too good to be true lines scare me, but I would’ve run with that one. Screw the 12th man. Rodgers will go for at least 290.
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I was in a hurry and thought I saw the 207 flash by on an electronic board that was flashing various props.
My bulbs ain’t what they used to be and maybe I read it wrong. Or maybe it was a mistake. 287 seems like a much better nbr to me.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
This regime is not in the business of playing games with players or doghouse type things.
If they think u are ready.. u will play. DA needs to trust u IMO .. like 100 percent trust
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Grown men (for the most part) playing a brutal game when all that matters is Winning.
I’d want 100% trust if I could get it.
If I’ve got an 85%er and a 70%er, whom do I play?
September 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I just don’t think DMAC should have to carry the whole load.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I just don’t think DMAC should have to carry the whole load.
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He shouldn’t.
Gotta have a balance, but for now, He may have to.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
TJ is gonna get his touches watch.. it might be this week. Like i said.. he is gonna have to show himself.
TJ got the backup role opening week based of his preseason lions game i think. Kick returner.. and in a few plays first quarter.
September 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Old Kell,…carry the whole load?…hey man nobody at that office helps you mop, sweep, scrub the toilets,…so chill out you loser.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Sweet Monday. i love when the RAIDERS give me a birthday victory!
September 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@135
Isnt it Grand, so good when close ones go in our favour.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Zona and the Seachicks have some beasts in their secondaries.
Two underrated defenses.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
i had to watch on My phone on a gamecast,so didnt see it live.
How did 55Mac play? his tackle count seemed up? i know wheeler killed it out there.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
How is TJ supposed to “earn” touches at this point? He was clearly better than Goodson in the preseason. What, if he holds onto the ball in limited touches in non-contact practices is that going to get him some play? Looked like they wanted to use him in the opener but then bailed after the botched pitch on the reverse and have been scared to use him ever since.
With all our receiver troubles, this is a guy who can be put in the slot from time to time, or, DMac could flex into the slot with TJ in the backfield. A lot of ways to get creative with a weapon with TJ’s type of explosiveness.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
This regime is not in the business of playing games with players or doghouse type things.
If they think u are ready.. u will play. DA needs to trust u IMO .. like 100 percent trust
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Grown men (for the most part) playing a brutal game when all that matters is Winning.
I’d want 100% trust if I could get it.
If I’ve got an 85%er and a 70%er, whom do I play?
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The fact is Goodson has much more of a fumble history. These coaches got skittish off too small a sample-size and panicked.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
i had to watch on My phone on a gamecast,so didnt see it live.
How did 55Mac play? his tackle count seemed up? i know wheeler killed it out there.
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Wheeler is a keeper. Slowlando not so much imo.
Slowlando moved some people around pre snap, but his instincts are lacking.
Also noticed when he blitzed His effort was poor. Zero moves, tried to bull rush and quit when engaged (stood up)
Someone tell me I’m wrong.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Russell Wilson = Bruce Gradkowski
Undersized, great intangibles, always flushes out to his right, will start for a few years before backing up a younger, talented guy in front of him
September 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
This regime is not in the business of playing games with players or doghouse type things.
If they think u are ready.. u will play. DA needs to trust u IMO .. like 100 percent trust
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Grown men (for the most part) playing a brutal game when all that matters is Winning.
I’d want 100% trust if I could get it.
If I’ve got an 85%er and a 70%er, whom do I play?
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The fact is Goodson has much more of a fumble history. These coaches got skittish off too small a sample-size and panicked.
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We are not at practice, nor are we in meetings.
If the Organization didn’t panic over the whole Knapp circus, I doubt they would “panic” over a 2nd or 3rd string RB.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
they need to get jones involved….
September 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
its still troubling that dmc is averaging so little with the exception of 1 great run….mix in some power krappy
September 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Why’d we dump Chris Clemons ?
Can’t remember.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
This regime is not in the business of playing games with players or doghouse type things.
If they think u are ready.. u will play. DA needs to trust u IMO .. like 100 percent trust
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Grown men (for the most part) playing a brutal game when all that matters is Winning.
I’d want 100% trust if I could get it.
If I’ve got an 85%er and a 70%er, whom do I play?
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The fact is Goodson has much more of a fumble history. These coaches got skittish off too small a sample-size and panicked.
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We are not at practice, nor are we in meetings.
If the Organization didn’t panic over the whole Knapp circus, I doubt they would “panic” over a 2nd or 3rd string RB.
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Well, there’s fire the offensive coordinator after two games level of panic and then there’s shelve a young, backup RB because of a bobbled ball or two panic.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
its still troubling that dmc is averaging so little with the exception of 1 great run….mix in some power krappy
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Thinking the same thing. And many times there are 2 or 3 defenders running free in our backfield before DMac can even get started.
Encouraged by the big TD run, but skeptical that they’ve got this all worked out.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
New motto: Swing Dat Bat!!
September 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
141.RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
i had to watch on My phone on a gamecast,so didnt see it live.
How did 55Mac play? his tackle count seemed up? i know wheeler killed it out there.
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Wheeler is a keeper. Slowlando not so much imo.
Slowlando moved some people around pre snap, but his instincts are lacking.
Also noticed when he blitzed His effort was poor. Zero moves, tried to bull rush and quit when engaged (stood up)
Someone tell me I’m wrong.
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Cool thanks Dawg….
September 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Clemmona wanted more $ than Burgess, lol.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
So what has Goodson done as a Raider to deserve to be benched?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Something I wanted to note about this game that I want to give a lot of credit to the coaches for is the fumbles. It’s clear that they are drilling it into the players’ heads to constantly go for the ball. To gang tackle and even hold the runner up at times so other guys can come in and try to force the fumble. I recall Steve noting during training camp that this was a point of emphasis with Dennis Allen.
This is something we really haven’t seen enough of from the Raiders in recent years.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Many have had it out for Goodson from the jump, since their hero Lochness Campbell was jettisoned for him.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Well, after that game I brought the Kool aid back up from storage in the basement and started drinking it again.
I’m tired of hearing, from our players no less than the media, how great a QB Peyton is. Fact is after 3 games he is rated at a rip roaring 85, 19th among NFL QBs in a tight little pack with..um.. Blaine Gabbert and Sam Bradford. Are you afraid of those guys?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
TJ and TP6 in the wildcat / spread offense for about 3-5 plays a game in the redzone can be a deadly combo, I don’t get why DA isn’t even pondering using his most athletic players
September 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Michael Bush starting in place of Matt Forte on Sunday rushed 18 times for 55 yds. and a td. 3.1 avg.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
So what has Goodson done as a Raider to deserve to be benched?
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That’s not really the point. Goodson has been fine other than his blocking, but I don’t think TJ would be any kind of upgrade in that area.
Goodson is only getting like 3 touches per game as well. I’m just saying they should get Taiwan involved some more. Maybe give McFadden some more breaks so we don’t wear him out and/or shift some of the pass plays into plays where TJ gets the ball in his hands out in space.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Raiders are doing fine in the red zone, no need to switch things up.
1 for 2 week 1, 1 for 2 week 2, 3 for 4 (and only because we went for the gw FG) week 3.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
missing wimbley big time on this team.. his hurry the passer alone would be great. Ya i know he was making big time money.. but he is still young (28)
Man wish it could have worked out. Seymour and Kelly are cool.. but i would have been fine with one of them leavin to keep wimbley
September 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Savage like awareness results in GB offsides. JFB special.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
TJ and TP6 in the wildcat / spread offense for about 3-5 plays a game in the redzone can be a deadly combo, I don’t get why DA isn’t even pondering using his most athletic players
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I agree. Not even sure it needs to be in the red zone. That’s a BIG leap of faith for the coaches and a lot to put on those guys, especially Pryor. But I think it’s worth having Pryor active to use for even just 2-3 plays per game and I think it’s imperative to get TJ involved more. Especially with all the injuries at WR.
Gotta get creative and use the weapons we have, guys.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Just got back. So, who’s b1tching about what? or is everybody still happy like me. w00t w00t!
September 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
That’s not really the point.
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Sure it is.
Jones AND Goodson aren’t going to play.
What does it say about Jones that he’s even behind Goodson as a KR?
Coaches obviously don’t trust the kid.
At this point, it’s going to take an injury or bad play from Goodson to get on the field.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Guess I gotta backtrack and see. Actually, gotta feed the dog first.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Wildcat???
If Pryor gets in the game, it would simply be a shotgun formation.
Wildcat is when a RB takes the snap.
No need to take 3 outta the game.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
TJ and TP6 in the wildcat / spread offense for about 3-5 plays a game in the redzone can be a deadly combo, I don’t get why DA isn’t even pondering using his most athletic players
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I agree. Not even sure it needs to be in the red zone. That’s a BIG leap of faith for the coaches and a lot to put on those guys, especially Pryor. But I think it’s worth having Pryor active to use for even just 2-3 plays per game and I think it’s imperative to get TJ involved more. Especially with all the injuries at WR.
Gotta get creative and use the weapons we have, guys.
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I don’t think Knapp will know how to use them anyway, but its a shame the most athletic ballers aside from DMAC are not on the field for a few plays
September 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Great win yesterday. Brought me back to the blog. Been trying to stay away and be more productive.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Was really expecting Houston to start well this season, we must have a league low sack total..
September 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
This staff seems to want to play mind games with the so-called typical Al Davis players. I saw the same thing with DVD and Chekwa for a bunch a guys who Reggie likes. Goodson isn’t better than TJ he’s just Reggie’s guy. Reggie wants to be right.
No one can convince me that DVD deserve to be cut for these bums. Reggie’s ego made it so…..if a player hasn’t developed from the previous GM Reggie doesn’t want to develope him. He wants his own players even at the expense of the team. I’ve seen it player after player. Np reason to trade Murphy let Bush go and cut several players when we had no one to replace them.
Yet all the Al Davis players won that game. And if he wants to continue winning he need sto cut the crap and play the talent regardless to how they got on the roster. Fat Boy!!
September 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Wildcat???
If Pryor gets in the game, it would simply be a shotgun formation.
Wildcat is when a RB takes the snap.
No need to take 3 outta the game.
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Hell Pryor can be used as a RB, but I was thinking more along the lines of the way Tebow and McGahee were ballin last year in the spread option offense
September 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
By the way where was DVD yesterday, did he even dress?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
The Raiders scored 31 pts yesterday.
The players on the field are doing a pretty good job.
If we are lobbying for more touches for a particular player, I say Ausberry.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
You know one thing I do realize, although what happened to DHB was just wrong, we don’t get bull… calls with these replacement refs as we use to with the regulars refs. Makes me think. Anybody remember bull.. calls against the raiders the last season or the season before or before that? These replacements have just been missing the calls or are not properly trained… Makes me think.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
The Raiders scored 31 pts yesterday.
The players on the field are doing a pretty good job.
If we are lobbying for more touches for a particular player, I say Ausberry.
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I agree, I want to see more of that guy.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I am no great DMAC worshiper. I think he is an excellent RB but not great. His history demonstrates that.
That notwithstanding, I watched several plays obviously in the ZBS, where DMAC was handed the ball. He ran right both times down the line, and there were no holes opened for him to cut through and he was tackled for no gain.
DA and Knapp still have to deal with this problem and insert some power blocking. It’s not over yet.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
morilla Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
The Raiders scored 31 pts yesterday.
The players on the field are doing a pretty good job.
If we are lobbying for more touches for a particular player, I say Ausberry.
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I agree, I want to see more of that guy.
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Myers has earned the starting TE spot, he is on pace for 1000 yds from the TE position, been over 20 years since the Raiders had that kind of production
September 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I have a strong feeling Reggie is going to find an excuse to trade or cut Pryor there is no way this kid should be 3rd string behind Leinart. Other than the fact he was drafted by the previous GM. There is no way TJ shouldn’t get touches other than the same Bullcrap. Anyone says it isn’t is burying their head in the sand the seem to treat these players as if they don’t want to develope them.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Yet all the Al Davis players won that game.
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Wheeler, Burris, Pat Lee, Goodson (with his KR), Streater and Willie Smith all lent a very helpful hand yesterday.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Seattle’s defensive line is dismantling Green Bays o-line.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
LOL at trading Pryor.
What does one think a 3rd string QB could fetch on the open market?
A case of Red Bulls?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Seattle D line is flat out BALLIN, Raiders D line needs to take some notes and watch how a real D line balls
September 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
This staff seems to want to play mind games with the so-called typical Al Davis players. I saw the same thing with DVD and Chekwa for a bunch a guys who Reggie likes. Goodson isn’t better than TJ he’s just Reggie’s guy. Reggie wants to be right.
No one can convince me that DVD deserve to be cut for these bums. Reggie’s ego made it so…..if a player hasn’t developed from the previous GM Reggie doesn’t want to develope him. He wants his own players even at the expense of the team. I’ve seen it player after player. Np reason to trade Murphy let Bush go and cut several players when we had no one to replace them.
Yet all the Al Davis players won that game. And if he wants to continue winning he need sto cut the crap and play the talent regardless to how they got on the roster. Fat Boy!!
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I dont know Priest, a lot of non-Davis player are playing well.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
TP could easily take snaps in a wildcat formation.
Doesn’t have to be a pure RB taking wildcat snaps.
Heck, at least put it on film and give opposing D coordinators something else to prepare for.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I have a strong feeling Reggie is going to find an excuse to trade or cut Pryor there is no way this kid should be 3rd string behind Leinart. Other than the fact he was drafted by the previous GM. There is no way TJ shouldn’t get touches other than the same Bullcrap. Anyone says it isn’t is burying their head in the sand the seem to treat these players as if they don’t want to develope them.
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Pryor hasn’t done anything in the NFL yet. He had two good quarters against Detroit backups. Leinart knows the offense. He should be 2nd QB. Jones has done nothing but fumble and and get injured. Reggie knows what he is doing.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Ausberry is another player of obvious talent we hardly see. DEVELOPE THE GUY!! Get him some touches if they want to win play these guys.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Clemons is a baller
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Clemons has 4 sacks in the half…I think they got 8 as a team
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Racist.
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Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
This staff seems to want to play mind games with the so-called typical Al Davis players. I saw the same thing with DVD and Chekwa for a bunch a guys who Reggie likes. Goodson isn’t better than TJ he’s just Reggie’s guy. Reggie wants to be right.
No one can convince me that DVD deserve to be cut for these bums. Reggie’s ego made it so…..if a player hasn’t developed from the previous GM Reggie doesn’t want to develope him. He wants his own players even at the expense of the team. I’ve seen it player after player. Np reason to trade Murphy let Bush go and cut several players when we had no one to replace them.
Yet all the Al Davis players won that game. And if he wants to continue winning he need sto cut the crap and play the talent regardless to how they got on the roster. Fat Boy!!
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Seattle D line is flat out BALLIN, Raiders D line needs to take some notes and watch how a real D line balls
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We don’t have that type of speed on the edge.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Interesting stat-
Raiders lost 48 straight games when trailing by 10 or more points entering the 4th quarter.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Why’d we get rid of Clemons again ?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
He has Myers in front of him you dumb Fk.
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Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Ausberry is another player of obvious talent we hardly see. DEVELOPE THE GUY!! Get him some touches if they want to win play these guys.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Seattle is killing Rodgers with a three man rush.
Chris Clemons has three sacks already,
He looks familer
September 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
All of the Raider players need to bring their bats to Denver this Sunday. Those bats should go to every game with them.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Yeah sure he does that’s why DMC has 1 TD and less than 200 yards in 3 games. These bums he’s put in the secondary are garbage, the talent is there USE IT!!.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Yet all the Al Davis players won that game
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Have to move on Priest.
Palmer wasn’t an Al Davis player.
Bush CHOSE to leave to BACKUP Forte.
DVD sealed his own fate with his lack of tackling. New coach talked about the “last line of defense”.
Murphy wasn’t going to be any higher than 3rd on the depth chart. Streater and Criner being developed is no big deal.
LOL at his ego being above the team. Really??? Because he replaced BACKUP players???
September 24th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
tj,
From the very bottom of my heart welcome back to the blog!!! Nobody gives more material than you and your alcoholic tirades….luv you man! Dont ever leave again!
September 24th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Yeah sure he does that’s why DMC has 1 TD and less than 200 yards in 3 games. These bums he’s put in the secondary are garbage, the talent is there USE IT!!.
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Your’e the fool who stated that Michael Vick is a better QB than John Elway. What do you know about talent evaluation?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mike Vick is the worst QB in the NFL
September 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I know as I said that’s how he won that game with Davis players so develope the rest of them who show potential. Don’t just disregard them because you didn’t bring them in.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I see QB’s like Rodgers getting sacked left and right and it made me think about Palmer and how he is rarely getting sacked.
Seems our pass protection has been doing a pretty good job.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mike Vick is the worst QB in the NFL
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Not according to Priest.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
tj if passion were brains you would be the smartest man in the room…
Unfortunate eh ?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Myers has earned the starting TE spot, he is on pace for 1000 yds from the TE position, been over 20 years since the Raiders had that kind of production
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Not taking anything away from Myers.
But Gordon in the passing game over Ausberry????
I wanted Gordon to start too, by the way.
How can you not go back to Ausberry a couple more times when he literally threw his man OOB and then ran another 10 yds, lol. Now THAT is what should get you a few more looks.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mike Vick is the worst QB in the NFL
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You seriously believe that Reggie ignores talented players because Al Davis drafted them?
September 24th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I am no great DMAC worshiper. I think he is an excellent RB but not great. His history demonstrates that.
That notwithstanding, I watched several plays obviously in the ZBS, where DMAC was handed the ball. He ran right both times down the line, and there were no holes opened for him to cut through and he was tackled for no gain.
DA and Knapp still have to deal with this problem and insert some power blocking. It’s not over yet.
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Yes just another element of the “smokescreen” win on Sunday. Yeah DMAC had “1″ 65 yard run but got stuffed on everything else. LOL some guys on here jumping on the Knapp bandwagon fast.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
tj,
From the very bottom of my heart welcome back to the blog!!! Nobody gives more material than you and your alcoholic tirades….luv you man! Dont ever leave again!
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Your life must be really miserable, well you’re certainly deserving of it.
September 24th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Jhill
I haven’t seen any greta tackling since he left, bad angles lack of coverage plain scared. Look man I’ve held my tongue to make sure there was a pattern and the pattern is obvious to me…………period
September 24th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Manning will most likely tear us a new hole on Sunday.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
btw DVD said it was his own fault he got cut. He said he was pressing to much and wasnt suprised he was cut ..especially when they asked him if he can RETURN PUNTS.
DVD said he hadnt since highschool and didnt know if he could. DVD said they brought in a CB who could (PHILIP ADAMS) and he knew the writing was on the wall. Time to let DVD go now.
btw this team is missing wimbley bad.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
From the very bottom of my heart welcome back to the blog!!!
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LOL
Yoooze a fool mayne.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Seattle tonight is using the ZBS…
September 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Well, bless Gruden for mumbling when his co-host mentioned the Tampa Bay / Oakland Raiders Superbowl.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
KK Munster, if it makes you feel better to tell me I’m miserable I’m here for you old man. God knows you need a break!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
morilla Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
The Raiders scored 31 pts yesterday.
The players on the field are doing a pretty good job.
If we are lobbying for more touches for a particular player, I say Ausberry.
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I agree, I want to see more of that guy.
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Myers has earned the starting TE spot, he is on pace for 1000 yds from the TE position, been over 20 years since the Raiders had that kind of production
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Totally agree, Huge fan of Myers and glad he is playing well. Deserves the #1 spot. Just liked what I’ve seen from the wizard of Aus.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Think you will see either an elite edge rusher (Bruce Irving type minus the rap sheet) or a beastly SEC safety (think Barron in TB type) with our first round pick.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Donks can be had, again…
They can’t run and they can’t stop the run.
We have to run it, throwing it 30 plus vs miller and Dumerville is not the recipe.
Peyton is off and this town is scared to Lose vs Raider Nation!!
I’ll be there!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Priest, I also enjoy your insightful posts.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
KK Chick Fil A & Peemour Bush told me Kelly & Seymour are our pass rushers, try again!
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Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Think you will see either an elite edge rusher (Bruce Irving type minus the rap sheet) or a beastly SEC safety (think Barron in TB type) with our first round pick.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Bronco’s might be the worst team we have played so far, IMO.
They can rush the pasher, and they score at the end of games and halves.
Other than that, pretty pedistrian across the board.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RaidO Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
LOL some guys on here jumping on the Knapp bandwagon fast.
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We did score 34 points yesterday…
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
More Ausberry please.
I was on his jock (bandwagon) before camp, got a little discouraged when I saw a photo of Him Palmer, TO, and McGee in So cal during the lockout (he looked fat).
What I’ve seen in the regular season tells me He needs to get some run.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Priest,
I’m not even going to give you a hard time man.
I know you were a big fan of the “old way”.
I loved DVD, but I can easily see his lack of tackling and overall physicality was something we had to move on from.
Chekwa always seemed a little stiff to me. Thought we might move him to S. Still might.
I see PLENTY of Al Davis players on the field. Don’t think The Reggime has any intentions of cutting loose McFadden, Reece, Veldheer, Myers, Gordon, Ausberry, Moore, DHB, Wiz, Bryant, Houstom, McClain, Huff, Branch … should I go on???
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
I refuse to watch GB play 3 weeks in a row.
Go A’s
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Bronco’s might be the worst team we have played so far, IMO.
They can rush the pasher, and they score at the end of games and halves.
Other than that, pretty pedistrian across the board.
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Broncos will be a tougher game than the Steelers.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I’m in favor of seeing some 2 TE sets especially near the goal line. But as far as Ausberry putting Myers on the bench….not happening.
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RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
More Ausberry please.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Right now, Carson Palmer has a better QB rating than Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Tony Romo, Philip Rivers, Drew Bress and Peyton Manning.
Not too bad, eh?
Best QB in the division?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Bronco’s might be the worst team we have played so far, IMO.
They can rush the pasher, and they score at the end of games and halves.
Other than that, pretty pedistrian across the board.
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Agreed. Let’s make it 5 in a row. Their receivers are pedestrian, McGahee is hurt. They are prime for. Beating.
I’ll be there tailgating , Nation style!!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
I will do it.
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J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Priest,
I’m not even going to give you a hard time man.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Broncos are gonna bring their A+ game against us.
1. Its a division game
2. they lost the last 2 games and no way manning want to lose 3 in a row and at home.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Ausberry is a beast, no doubt about it, but if anybody should be seeing some more touches it needs to be Marcel Reece, finally got some big first downs yesterday, now keep tossing the rock to him, no reason he shouldn’t have 4-6 touches a game
September 24th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
tj can you give us a strong yet thoughtless opinion followed by
…………period
September 24th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Think you will see either an elite edge rusher (Bruce Irving type minus the rap sheet) or a beastly SEC safety (think Barron in TB type) with our first round pick.
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Looking at the schedule, who outside of Balt and Atl concerns you enough to be talking lottery type draft picks???
We will be tied for the division lead next week, young man!!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Chris Clemons, former Raider, right? We could use his pass rush.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Only the Jets, Bills, Titans and Texans have allowed fewer sacks than us, and we have attempted more passes than all of them.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I see either a pass rusher.. or linebacker like Mante ‘ Teo from ND
he is everything this ORG would look for in a player
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Myers to the bench???
Not at all.
Ausberry and Meyers on the field TOGETHER with Reece and DMac.
Imagine the shifts and subsequent matchup problems.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Broncos are gonna bring their A+ game against us.
1. Its a division game
2. they lost the last 2 games and no way manning want to lose 3 in a row and at home.
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Their struggling. As long as we stop the run, we win.
Ben and his receivers are a. Much tougher task than old man Manning and his receivers, only Thomas is a real threat.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Looking at the schedule, who outside of Balt and Atl concerns you enough to be talking lottery type draft picks???
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No lottery stuff, I orginally thought we would pick in the 15-20 range and I will stick with that.
Why can’t we get maybe the 3rd best edge rusher or 2nd best safety at that spot?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I guess Priest doesn’t want to own up to his Michael Vick is better than Elway proclamation.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Bronco’s might be the worst team we have played so far, IMO.
They can rush the pasher, and they score at the end of games and halves.
Other than that, pretty pedistrian across the board.
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Broncos will be a tougher game than the Steelers.
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I disagree, Raiders have two big advantages, DA knows that defense inside out being the DC last year, even though Del Rio has added some wrinkles but DA admitted its basically the same in his presser, and Phillip Wheeler knows all of Peyton’s audibles / tendencies, if anything the Raiders are gonna be a tougher game than the Steelers were for them
September 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
As if Al were the only Guy to covet speed and athleticism.
Reggie wants it too.
He just wants a shorter learning curve from His Draft picks and projects.
We don’t have the luxury of a 3 or 4 yr developmental process.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I’m in favor of seeing some 2 TE sets especially near the goal line. But as far as Ausberry putting Myers on the bench….not happening.
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RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
More Ausberry please.
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agree.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
All the haters are slowly creeping back in.
Gordon can lay some people out
Priest You give back a lot more to the blog then you take
stick around for awhile
September 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Myers to the bench???
Not at all.
Ausberry and Meyers on the field TOGETHER with Reece and DMac.
Imagine the shifts and subsequent matchup problems.
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Sounds like a good redzone package.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Anyone excited as I am about having some linebackers that, “get after it”?
I was sold on Burris the moment I watched his youtube highlights. I honestly didn’t know much about him before that, with little to no exposure of San Diego St football in Miami. Excellent draft pick.
Wheeler is the linebacker size Bob Sanders, minus the injuries, plus the long dreads. He’ll take out his own guys like a poorly aimed missile.
McClain is in between it all and our run defense is playing well.
Raiders!
w00t!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I see Louis Murphy currently has four receptions, which would put him 8th on this team, or 5th amongst our wideouts.
Can we all admit Reggie got the better end of BOTH offseason Panthers deals?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Broncos will be a tougher game than the Steelers.
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I disagree, Raiders have two big advantages, DA knows that defense inside out being the DC last year, even though Del Rio has added some wrinkles but DA admitted its basically the same in his presser, and Phillip Wheeler knows all of Peyton’s audibles / tendencies, if anything the Raiders are gonna be a tougher game than the Steelers were for them
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Steelers didn’t have any one like Dumervill and Miller coming after Palmer.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Jhill
I have moved on no reason not to. But I know talent when I see it he can’t get rid of greta players for obvious reasons and that wasn’ty my point to begin with. I clearly stated the developmental players….
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Our run D has shaved off almost 40 yards a game from the season before Slo-wammo joined our D.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Best QB in the division?
Top 5 QB in the NFL says Palmerhead
September 24th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Palmer & DMAC now have the weight to tell Knapp what they want to run. Palmer can call w/e the FK he wants at the LOS. Taiwan & Goodson can just get comfortable on the bench where they belong unless we up 21 in the 4th then that’s their time to shine……..period
Right tj?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
What “great players” have we got rid of?
Bush was probably the best player we lost, and he is a “great” backup, but an average to slightly above average starter.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
We got a bye after this week, so expect to see McFadden on the field for 95% of the snaps again this week.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
TJ really does know talent!
-J Fargas
-Jamrcus Russell
-Arman Shields
-J Moss
Lets not forget he said DMAC is a skinny legged back with no moves or power! TJ YOU ARE THE BEST!
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Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Jhill
But I know talent when I see it
September 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Our run D has shaved off almost 40 yards a game from the season before Slo-wammo joined our D.
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Slowwammo hasn’t lit my candle so far.
I still see a guy that gives less than 100%, guesses at the wrong gap, and quits when engaged while blitzing.
Am I wrong?
I want this guy to be a beast, I’m just not seeing it.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I can’t help about the shape I’m in, I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty, and my legs are thin. But don’t ask me what I think of you, you might not get the answer that you’re looking for.Oh,well.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
TJ really does know talent!
-J Fargas
-Jamrcus Russell
-Arman Shields
-J Moss
Lets not forget he said DMAC is a skinny legged back with no moves or power! TJ YOU ARE THE BEST!
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Priesttj12 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Jhill
But I know talent when I see it
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Hey! I was on the Armon Sheilds bandwagon.
I supported JaMarcus.
Eventually the fog cleared…and I saw clearly. lol
September 24th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
DHB would’ve been crucified in here for that drop.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Cork tweeting a lot about how Raiders blew it letting Chris Clemons go.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
If our D lineman can get to Manning, they won’t have as difficult of a time bringing him down like they did with Ben. I think we’ll get to Peyton on sunday, and sack him 2 or 3 times.
Our secondary is a big question mark…Got to sack Manning and stay in his face all day.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I still see a guy that gives less than 100%, guesses at the wrong gap, and quits when engaged while blitzing.
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He never leaves the field defensively, so that has to say something about what the staff feels about him right?
And his “quiting” on the blitz seems like his go-to move. If he gets blocked, kind of linger around and see if he can peel off and hit the QB if the QB has to move around the pocket.
Slo-Mania rages on
September 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Hey! I was on the Armon Sheilds bandwagon.
I supported JaMarcus.
Eventually the fog cleared…and I saw clearly. lol
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Good for you RaiderLen. Unfortunately for Priest, the fog has never lifted.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I can’t help about the shape I’m in, I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty, and my legs are thin. But don’t ask me what I think of you, you might not get the answer that you wanted to. Oh,well.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Who the Fk is this meatball ?
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Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I can’t help about the shape I’m in, I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty, and my legs are thin. But don’t ask me what I think of you, you might not get the answer that you wanted to. Oh,well.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
……..period//////who finishes their posts that way?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Are Priest and Mistic the same person? I forgot.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Hey BrownStains, Intrade has 0bama at 72.2%
Put that in you pipe and smoke that, dumbass.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
MistaBrown Says: Who the Fk is this meatball ?////Yuong punk, huh?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Cork tweeting a lot about how Raiders blew it letting Chris Clemons go.
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LOL
We only cut the guy what 4 years ago????
What has he been up to sense????
September 24th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Pardon the Chinese.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
This defense is also missing Aaron curry.. bring the physcial aspect and im sure ALLEN will be blitzing this guy once he comes back.. using him as a pass rusher
September 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I still see a guy that gives less than 100%, guesses at the wrong gap, and quits when engaged while blitzing.
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He never leaves the field defensively, so that has to say something about what the staff feels about him right?
And his “quiting” on the blitz seems like his go-to move. If he gets blocked, kind of linger around and see if he can peel off and hit the QB if the QB has to move around the pocket.
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What you say is true.
That may speak more to Goethals lack of abilities than than slowlandos impact.
For a MLB, he almost seems no existent.
Wheeler is ALL over the field, why not slowlando?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
I dunno klaus umm I mean Albert
September 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
KK Fil A, who is Intrade some marxist socialism outfit originating from kenya with Muslim investors ?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Cork tweeting a lot about how Raiders blew it letting Chris Clemons go.
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LOL
We only cut the guy what 4 years ago????
What has he been up to sense????
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*since
September 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
ALLEN will be blitzing this guy once he comes back.. using him as a pass rusher
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Yes sir!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
I dunno klaus umm I mean Albert
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I thought Klas was supposed to be MR?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
*since
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cents????
September 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Our run D has shaved off almost 40 yards a game from the season before Slo-wammo joined our D.
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Slowwammo hasn’t lit my candle so far.
I still see a guy that gives less than 100%, guesses at the wrong gap, and quits when engaged while blitzing.
Am I wrong?
I want this guy to be a beast, I’m just not seeing it.
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Agreed. McCheese has yet to earn his pay. This is his third year. It should be a make or break year. If he doesn’t start showing us something consistently, he’ll be gone. I would however like to see McWhiffer in a 3-4 defensive structure. That’s his natural position as an ILB. ILB & MLB are not the same types of responsibilities. It is possible that he might be what we thought he was in a 3-4 environment. Besides, I think the next evolutionary step for our D is to switch to a 3-4. If we had Curry, I think we’d already be a 3-4 with Curry sharing the ILB position. Having Burriss, Wheeler, McCheese & a healthy Curry might be our solution for a dominant defense.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Some say you are MR
September 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
tj bounced
lol
September 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Klas is probably another one of Beeecham’s aliases.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I still think we will be a 3-4 based in the future.. using Burris as a pass rusher as well.
Burris is so young still and so versatile. He already is bringin it
September 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:Are Priest and Mistic the same person? I forgot.////Possibly, but we know you don’t we?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Some say you are MR
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I’m flattered by the comparison. But I am not him.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
…of course Palmer is a great QB…he’s WHITE!
September 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I dont think there are enough illegals, food stamp recipients, tax takers, tax evaders, or brain dead americans to get him re-elected.
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KoolKell Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Hey BrownStains, Intrade has 0bama at 72.2%
September 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
If he doesn’t start showing us something consistently,
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Could you define “something”???
September 24th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
We only cut the guy what 4 years ago????
What has he been up to sense????
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11 sacks each of the last 2 yrs.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I said some say,
I always thought Klas was you though
September 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
…of course Palmer is a great QB…he’s WHITE!
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In the words of Monsieur Brown, “Who the Fk is this Meatball”?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Raiders are gonna need all the draft picks they can get. Hopefully they get that 1st round into multiple picks. We need young Defensive talent
September 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
This defense is also missing Aaron curry.. bring the physcial aspect and im sure ALLEN will be blitzing this guy once he comes back.. using him as a pass rusher
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Good point.
If it’s not for injuries, who knows how much better this defense looks? When our offense learns to sustain long drives, we’ll be that much better.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
11 sacks each of the last 2 yrs.
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11 plays outta how many snaps????
September 24th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
…of course Palmer is a great QB…he’s WHITE!
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This is an Oakland Raiders message board, not Stormfront. Please leave your racism at the door. Thank you for your cooperation.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Packers run on 3rd and 5 for 4 yards. That play seems familiar. Raiders did the same thing yesterday.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
…of course Palmer is a great QB…he’s WHITE!
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Too bad that didn’t work out for Boller.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
…of course Palmer is a great QB…he’s WHITE!
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Too bad that didn’t work out for Boller.
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Or Billie Joe Hobert
September 24th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
I really thought Billy Joe was going to be good.
Another guy who had a couple decent games at the end of a nothing season, but then was exposed almost immediately the next season.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
JFB, I also like Billy Joe.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
If he doesn’t start showing us something consistently,
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Could you define “something”???
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I’ll take that question..lol
“Show us something” for $40 Alex.
Q: A MLB does this in defense of a Run.
A: What is shoot the gap and stuff the run?
ding ding ding1
***applause****
I’ll take “Show us something” for $50 Alex.
Q: Rolando McClain on a blitz.
What is quitting on a blitz with no moves other than a half assed bull rush.
***applause***
Don Pardo will now tell me what I’ve won…lol
September 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Still waiting for McWhammo to have an impact game.
You know, something like winning a game by closing it out by blasting a RB for a loss, causing a fumble, coming up with a pick.
He’s had a few notable moments. And they weren’t good.
The FJaxJOG, the StaffWHIFF still make me cringe.
Slamming DannyAM, taking out Sproles, and exploding Whitten’s spleen doesn’t quite balance the scales.
I’m afraid Baldinger’s comment on AFC Playbook abt McLame is all too accurate, I quote:
“He’s too SLO’
September 24th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
September 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
…of course Palmer is a great QB…he’s WHITE!
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Too bad that didn’t work out for Boller.
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LOL!
I want TP to be our next great QB.
It would solve a lot of problems.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
russell Wilson is going to have to learn to find a way to stay in the pocket or flush left occasionally.
Any pressure and he flushes right, and Green Bay is just keying off it.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I was looking at list of Raider QBs. Boy, 2006 was a nightmare with Andrew Walter and Aaron Brooks.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Scott Dreisbach?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
305..shouldn’t have left that remark so open ended.
I hope TP can assume the QB position, when ready.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Billy Joe got screwed when Al put Vince Evans in for Hostettler in ‘95. Mike White’s WCO was perfect for Billy Joe. That was the offense the team ran, and they were like 8-2 when Hostettler went down. Hoss goes down, Al insisted on putting Evans in and going back to the vertical. Final record: 8-8.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Scott Dreisbach?
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I still remember the bizarre man-crush David Brooks of The Vertical Game had on this guy…
September 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Andrew Walter. I kind of felt bad for that guy, especially during that Seattle game, where our offensive lineman looked like a bunch of matadors.
September 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
The Raiders run defense is pretty damn good THIS year, and we really have to keep hearing about the MLB shooting the wrong gap???
Who is the pro bowl S cleaning up all these misses?
September 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
TP=toilet paper?….he will suck too….just like the 5 baboons that are going to go 0-5 this week
September 24th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Anyone see today where Romney complained big government won’t let him open a window on an airplane?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Andrew Walter. I kind of felt bad for that guy, especially during that Seattle game, where our offensive lineman looked like a bunch of matadors.
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We can thank Art Shell, Tom Walsh, Jackie Slater and Irv Eatman for destroying him. Job well done.
/sarcasm
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Many o decent QB were sabotaged by our archaic system.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
What happened to Andrew Walter’s Mom?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
…including JaMarcus Russell.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Many o decent QB were sabotaged by our archaic system.
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So true. The good ones always seemed to be the guys Al didn’t like because their arm wasn’t a cannon, remember Steve Beurlein?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
MB,
brain dead Americans?
Romney said today he doesn’t understand why you can’t open a window on an airplane.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Albert, SI did a huge article in the 1990s on the chaos within the Raiders, they talked about Burlein
September 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
We went from Atari to PS3 in one year. In terms of having a system installed. lol
September 24th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Brandon Browner second only to Stanford Routt in penalties last year.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
We went from Pong to a PS3.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
A’s Rangers tied in the 9th.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
2012 Oakland Raiders: Just Lay The Wood Baby!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I wish I could root for the A’s, but I wan’t the dirt field to go away.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
The Raiders run defense is pretty damn good THIS year, and we really have to keep hearing about the MLB shooting the wrong gap???
Who is the pro bowl S cleaning up all these misses?
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Guilty as charged regarding the MLB.
Branch need to find His brain and use it.
Love His effort, question His instinct.
Slolando, I question both.
I gave Him a pass last year, not this year.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
318.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
What happened to Andrew Walter’s Mom?
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Im going to bed. Good nite
September 24th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Although it’s only one win, you got to commend DA for sticking to what he thought eventually would work, regardless of the outcome.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
318.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
What happened to Andrew Walter’s Mom?
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Im going to bed. Good nite
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You Andrew’s mom?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
This fan’s laying the wood…
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/09/23/19/23/17KYqh.St.4.jpeg
September 24th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Man, I was sweating it for a minute! Took Seattle +3.5, good thing they’re going for a field goal!!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I still think we will be a 3-4 based in the future.. using Burris as a pass rusher as well.
Burris is so young still and so versatile. He already is bringin it
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You could make a case that he made the biggest defesnive play of the game with his pressure on Big Ben.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Albert, I remember how the ‘76 Raiders gave up mid season because of that dirt infield…
September 24th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
SH!T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Amazing those Niner teams in the ’80s were able to win Super Bowls with that dirt infield. Anyone see where I’m going with this dry sarcasm?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
You guys hear about those 2 Raider fans who electrocuted themselves yesterday in the parking lot? They were lifting a metal flag pole and hit a power line. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was some moron from this blog.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I jnixed rOdgers by selecting him in my Ffl. Last year it was Adrian Peterson.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Burris is my DROY.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Albert, I remember how the ‘76 Raiders gave up mid season because of that dirt infield…
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I’m just talking about aesthetics. It’s f*cking ugly.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I hate this phone.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Albert, I remember how the ‘76 Raiders gave up mid season because of that dirt infield…
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Both teams have to play on it. It’d be nice if we could use to our advantage but it seems like it’s always OUR guys who are slipping on it.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Didn’t the ‘76 Raiders go 13-1 and win the superbowl?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Where’s the great Russell Wilson tonight?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
That dirt field yells,”RAIDERS NEED A NEW STADIUM, TOMORROW!”
September 24th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Albert, the article I read about the two Raider fans and the electric pole said, “authorities believe alcohol was involved”
September 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
345,yes they did.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: In the words of Monsieur Brown, “Who the Fk is this Meatball”?////That was me.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
That was an awful penalty call.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
kool aid, yes, the ‘76 Raiders went 13-1, and won the Super Bowl…and they did so with a dirt infield. Amazing, huh? Considering how many fans today believe a dirt infield is a real hindrance?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
And proudly so.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Don’t worry, LA won’t spoil the stadium looks with dirt. This problem will be solve in the next couple of years. Hey mark Davis, so I hear you like the clippers? Maybe you should buy some for that hair?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Albert, the article I read about the two Raider fans and the electric pole said, “authorities believe alcohol was involved”
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It also said it was 8:35 am.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
The Niners’ WCO was designed to work around the dirt infield.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I have a theory on our lack of penalties this yr.
Yes, the replacement refs, but notice no pass int. calls?
My theory is they aren’t getting close enough to the receivers to even get the refs to throw a flag.
Also, more discipline on the lines..not as many false starts and offsides. Which is good.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Yep, Albert, most Raider fans are on about beer 4 by 8am.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Sullivan44 Says: You actually found something to b1tch about?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Albert, I remember how the ‘76 Raiders gave up mid season because of that dirt infield…
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I’m just talking about aesthetics. It’s f*cking ugly.
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Ah, cmon Al, I think it looks good. Reminds me of the old days. Dirt lot football.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Yep, Albert, most Raider fans are on about beer 4 by 8am.//What time zone you in?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Offensive pi
September 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Sacramento boy?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Dakota, why do you think the Raiders are a better candidate for LA than any other team?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
What a bad fking call
September 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Wow. These replacement refs are making some very bad calls.
Critical, game changing calls.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
I was born in L.A and wouldn’t mind them going back, but not at the expense of the Oakland faithful. Get em a state of the art stadium ASAP…before Magic Johnson decides to overpay for them, move to em to L.A right when Pryor decides to blossom into the next great Raider QB.
I can dream.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
All they talked about today was the refs missing the hit on Roethlisberger. What about the hit on DHB?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
A Zach Miller sighting…forgot he played for the seachikens
September 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
San Diego will be playng in the Rose Bowl next year. Just watch.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Now a Pimp hand sighting….feeling nostalgic
September 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Tom Cable seems like a real fit in progressive, green Seattle. I hope women that date him have pepper spray.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
ZBS scheme working for Seattle
September 24th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
372
lmao
September 24th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
J Hill Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
ALLEN will be blitzing this guy once he comes back.. using him as a pass rusher
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Yes sir!!!
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I haven’t heard a thing about curry more worried about his knees being healthy to play let alone be our pass rush.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I was born in L.A and wouldn’t mind them going back, but not at the expense of the Oakland faithful. Get em a state of the art stadium ASAP…before Magic Johnson decides to overpay for them, move to em to L.A right when Pryor decides to blossom into the next great Raider QB.
I can dream////////Boy can you.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Chargers and Rams going to L.A. probably.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Let’s see do we want the chargers, jags or raiders? La wants the raiders back.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Dakota, why? Why do you think the Raiders are a better candidate for LA than the Chargers or Jags?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
W00t!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Chargers and Rams going to L.A. probably.
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…and Raiders go to San Diego to fill the void.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
OMG these refs at horrible…
Who’s going to the game Sunday?
Donk Stadium is my 2nd favorite stadium, we are going to make it 5 in a row!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Wilson sucks. That’s the worst pass I’ve ever seen. He’s not clutch, and that’s key for QBs.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
If I was still in LA I’d definitely want the Raiders instead of Chargers or Rams.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Was I
the
only one noticing the timing of our blitz’s being off yesterday?
Might have been the smoke.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
nice pass midget mulatto!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Why does LA want the Raiders over other teams which are considering LA? Why do so many Raider fans think LA is waiting for the Raiders like a jilted lover? I don’t see that they are. And if the Raiders reveal they want to move to LA, I dont’ see why LA doesn’t hold their balls to the fire.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
I feel a block punt coming.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
If I was still in LA I’d definitely want the Raiders instead of Chargers or Rams.
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Does L.A. even want an NFL team?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
hey seahawks if ya want to win put the white qb flynn in!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Great to have a win on Monday’s.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Man, GB travels really well. Even in Seatlle. You here the “Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn”.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Tailgating is foreign to th Donks.
I’ve go the best tailgate in Colorado, learned how to do it The Raider way from 1995-2005.
I could use some Raider brethren…..
September 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I am a fan of The Raiders and The A’s and they both deserve better than to be sharing that dilapidated heap. They both need to get their own state of the art stadium to give them the competitive advantage that nearly every other team has in both The NFL and MLB.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
We’ll see if Wilson is clutch right here.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Raiders need a #1 WR like Sidney Rice
September 24th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Can I delete what I said about Wilson a minute ago?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
U gotta be kidding me.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
circus
September 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Chaos I love it! Tie goes to the offense!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
That was an INT!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
collassal scab ref fail. They can’t review that. They can’t determine who caught a ball, that’s a judgment call. They have to give this to Seattle, and Jennings really caught that. Wow.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Glad it’s not us.
Knock on wood.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Hide the Wisconsin women.
Domestic abuse cases go up 40% in Wisconsin on evenings when Packers lose.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
…and those Wisconsin guys are gonna be really ticked.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Wilson is a Rookie. You guys need slow down with the “haterraid”
September 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Haaaaahahahqhaha!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Naw Wilson is not clutch…lol
September 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
404
lmao
September 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
It is going to be a bonanza on radio shows tomorrow about the scab refs. A bonanza. Locked out refs are laughing their asses off right now though.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Packers got ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
what happened to Goodall keeping the black man down?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT A JOKE
September 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
MR?
September 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Looks like SwingBatterBatterSwing won him a bet!
September 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Thec,
that was a hail mary, and the officials made the wrong call. Even if Seattle had caught it it’s still luck. It’s not like he threaded the needle and hit the receiver in stride.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
This is gonna be the straw that broke the camel’s back for these replacement refs and Roger Goodell
September 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Wow. Horsesh!t ending to that Seahawks game.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
what a cluster
September 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
THIS will bring em back to the table.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Can’t be worse than the snow job taste in your mouth, Gruden.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
IF the refs overturn this that place is going to blow up.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
You know the ref was scared to overturn that one in Seattle.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
These scab refs are a complete joke, that was the most blatant PI ever, not to mention it was an INT
I hate the Fudge Packers though, glad to see that look on their faces
September 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Two officials giving opposite calls (touchdown / clock stop-INT) on a game-deciding call.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I have heard that 40% domestic abuse statistic before, so I googled it to see if it was true. The actual increase is actually 10%, but that is still tragic. Anybody who abuses a woman is a piece of crap.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Packers got screwed more than Raiders ever have with that call. Total B.S.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
lol
Pete talking about how they have to kick the extra point but the officials took off…
September 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“simultaneous possession” goes to the offensive player
September 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Has anyone every “threaded the needle” on a hail marry?
ROFLMAO…
September 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Packers should refuse to come out for extra point.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
The ref who blew that TD call is the same one who made that horrendous 30+ yard PI call on the previous drive.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
That was no simultaneous possession any way you slice it
September 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Very suspicious.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I guess that must have been a touchdown for Denarius Moore to end that Buffalo game last year.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Nothing is worse than the “Tuck rule”
September 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Why the eff is there a rule you have to kick an extra point?!? they won…go home
September 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Gruden reminiscing about the tuck rule
September 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Can’t wait to watch the McCarthy presser
September 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RaidO Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Nothing is worse than the “Tuck rule”
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That or Immaculate reception
September 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Point spreads
boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Why the eff is there a rule you have to kick an extra point?!? they won…go home
September 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RaidO Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“simultaneous possession” goes to the offensive player
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That was not simultaneous possession.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Better them than us…League invents new ways to job the Raids.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Yes there is a rule you have to try the point after. It is one of the tie breakers for playoffs. If GB didn’t come back out Seattle could have just picked up the ball and walked it in for a two point conversion.
September 24th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I hope they find out that ref had money on the game, or is a Seahawks fan.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
That was a good call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Maybe the ref had Russell Wilson and Golden Tate on his fantasy football team
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Gruden reminiscing about the tuck rule
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That’s the thing. All these announcers going on ad nauseum about the replacements forget that the regulars certainly make their share of horrendous calls as well. There’s all this fear about “what if a replacement official blows a call that decides a playoff berth or something?” Well, a regular official made one of the worst calls in the history of modern sport with the aid of 10 minutes of slow motion replay to overturn the correct call on the field.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
But should it have been a touchdown? Or should it have been an interception? Jennings appeared to have a firmer grasp on the ball, which would make it a Packers interception — and a Packers win. But the officials standing in the end zone said Tate had the ball, too, and the referee confirmed that call after a replay review. Touchdown, Seattle, on the final play of the game.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Fix this mess!
LOL @ the NFL. I hate Goodell.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Thec, the point is, a successful hail mary is no thanks to the QB in particular. He just heaved the ball in the air. You’re reaching, Thec.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
An AWFUL call. bad enough to the point where we may see the regular refs back sooner than later. Liked that the Seahawks won though…
September 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Should have took out Charles Woodson … He’s part of 2 of the top BS calls ever now
September 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Its safe to say Wilson is NOT clutch….lol
September 24th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Wow.
He looked at that on replay and still said TD????
September 24th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Gruden reminiscing about the tuck rule
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That’s the thing. All these announcers going on ad nauseum about the replacements forget that the regulars certainly make their share of horrendous calls as well. There’s all this fear about “what if a replacement official blows a call that decides a playoff berth or something?” Well, a regular official made one of the worst calls in the history of modern sport with the aid of 10 minutes of slow motion replay to overturn the correct call on the field.
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Yeah but unfortunately those calls only happened to Al’s Raiders
September 24th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
You guys should hear the Packer radio network right now…OMG!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
GB got robbed, and everyone knows it.
GBs defense is pretty good. No shame in Wilson having a tough day.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Thec, just quit it! It was a hail mary. Wilson heaved the ball into the air…and right into Green Bay’s hands!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Woodson is just a bad omen , if he’s involved in a play.. Never gets calls for his team
September 24th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
THIS WAS A TRAVESTY…
-Max McGee-Packer radio.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Thec, enjoy being the only person in America tomorrow who thinks that’s a Seattle TD.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Thec Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
But should it have been a touchdown? Or should it have been an interception? Jennings appeared to have a firmer grasp on the ball, which would make it a Packers interception — and a Packers win. But the officials standing in the end zone said Tate had the ball, too, and the referee confirmed that call after a replay review. Touchdown, Seattle, on the final play of the game.
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The one who ruled it an interception had a much better look at it than the other guy.
The referee was probably terrified that he wouldn’t live to make it off the field if he overturned it as the stadium was already going nuts in celebration.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Gruden is awesome.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Thec, the point is, a successful hail mary is no thanks to the QB in particular. He just heaved the ball in the air. You’re reaching, Thec.
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Sure it is, he has to get it in the vicinity of his WR’s. Not only that but try to target one of his better WR’s. a lot of luck involved rarely if ever is it successful, so Wilson gets some of the credit IMO.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
HUGE difference between Tuck game and this…
Tuck was a freaking playoff game.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
GB was unbelievably robbed
September 24th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Bill Simmons earlier today was talking about these refs are too scared to make big calls against the home team. What a joke. It’s like the Immaculate Reception all over again.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
MonumentRaider Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
An AWFUL call. bad enough to the point where we may see the regular refs back sooner than later. Liked that the Seahawks won though…
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The regulars must be flying high right now. Still not sure the league caves by any stretch, but I would think they’ll be more willing to play ball.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Thec, enjoy being the only person in America tomorrow who thinks that’s a Seattle TD.
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Ok… I will join the seahawks, refs, and seattle fans, the state of washignton, the govenor of Washington, and the ciy council of seattle,,,Oh yeah and all microsoft employees.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Brandian Ross @BrandianRoss
They must had talk to the buffalo wild wings people when reviewing that play.
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September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Say what you want about the finish, but Seattle’s D line got more sacks tonight than the Raiders will have all year sadly
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
The offensive player clearly had his left arm around the ball in the air and prior to the defender touching the ground the wr got his right arm on the ball=simultaneous possession=td
Great call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Thec,
getting “some” of the credit (your words) on a hail mary doesn’t exactly translate to clutch. That’s my point. And remember, he threw an interception. This very play will likely end negotiations with refs. League will probably give them whatever they want tomorrow.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
As was stated in the game, the review CAN’T overturn WHO caught the ball.
That’s not reviewable. Catch/no-catch, yes. In bounds / out? Yes. Who caught it? Not reviewable.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Oh, Thec, you mean it’ll just be you and Seahawk kool aid drinkers believing it was a Seattle touchdown? Sure. I agree.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Two hands touching a football does not equal possession.
Intercepting a pass and clutching it against your chest…moreso.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Lol,..MR you think the league cares what happened tonight?…lol,..they dont.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
TJ Lang @TJLang70
Got f*cked by the refs.. Embarrassing. Thanks nfl
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He plays for the Packers.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Crazy call
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
The offensive player clearly had his left arm around the ball in the air and prior to the defender touching the ground the wr got his right arm on the ball=simultaneous possession=td
Great call.
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Even if he arguably caught it, should have been offensive pass interference and a 10 second run off, game over
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Two hands touching a football does not equal possession.
Intercepting a pass and clutching it against your chest…moreso..
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Remember…we’re comparing THIS to PLAYOFF GAMES.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
The regular officials make a lot of money for a part time job, but it is hard to go backwards and loose a pension that is already established. I wish that is The NFL is going to stick to it’s guns on that issue they would give the officials something substancial to make it more palletable.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
The funniest thing was seeing Yahoo sports Mike Silverberg try and talk to Rodgers after game and Rodgers told him to F off,…that was hilarious.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Dakota, defender had ball to his chest. That’s a catch. That Tyree play in SB a few years ago, neither him or Rodney Harrison had ball to their chest. Both just had hands on the ball. Ball to chest, catch. This play was an INT. And it was likely the end of the ref lockout.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
The offensive player clearly had his left arm around the ball in the air and prior to the defender touching the ground the wr got his right arm on the ball=simultaneous possession=td
Great call.
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bull sh*T.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Oh, Thec, you mean it’ll just be you and Seahawk kool aid drinkers believing it was a Seattle touchdown? Sure. I agree.
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So do you include the Semi Dakota a seattle Kool-aid drinker?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Yes, regular officials missed calls, even big calls.
No, they didn’t happen on a weekly basis to this degree.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Amy, I missed that. That’s great. I don’t blame him.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
boss01 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
The offensive player clearly had his left arm around the ball in the air and prior to the defender touching the ground the wr got his right arm on the ball=simultaneous possession=td
Great call.
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Even if he arguably caught it, should have been offensive pass interference and a 10 second run off, game over
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It was 4th down anyway…
September 24th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I hope the old refs never get their jobs back…ask the Chargers how they like the leagues best, Ed Hochuli.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Ya MR,…Mike Silverstein got embarrassed on national tv. Typical rodent that he is.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Thec, you win. That was a clutch play by Wilson. He heaved the ball in the air, and it was intercepted. Then scab refs called it a TD. Clutch play by Wilson. What can I say? I tip my hat, Thec.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Hilarious Sockpuppet self conversations tonite.. too funny.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Whats good Amy???? Hope alll is well.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Packers got totally hosed
September 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
McCarthy is heated!
“Questions please!!!”
September 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Thec, you win. That was a clutch play by Wilson. He heaved the ball in the air, and it was intercepted. Then scab refs called it a TD. Clutch play by Wilson. What can I say? I tip my hat, Thec.
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Sullystone, this is not a contest of win or lose.
We can agree to disagree.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Brandian Ross @BrandianRoss
They must had talk to the buffalo wild wings people when reviewing that play.
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Ha!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
I louv ya D my man but the Packers got totally f*cked. That was clearly an interception.
Roger Goodell needs to resign.
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Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
The offensive player clearly had his left arm around the ball in the air and prior to the defender touching the ground the wr got his right arm on the ball=simultaneous possession=td
Great call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Thec, when I say you win, what I mean is, you baited me, I took the bait. You got me.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
“simultaneous possession” goes to the offensive player///////////That look simultaneous to you?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Gruden:
“There’s no way Green Bay should have to fly back 6,000 miles home after losing a game like this…”
Because apparently Green Bay is in Bosnia.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Why did we ever let c.clemons get away..?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Better them than us…F GB and the Sea
September 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
GO SEAHAWKS…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Bite it cheeseheads…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
McCarthy looks like he’s going to cry or spontaneously combust in this post-game presser. Dude is lobster red.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
How you feel about that call,Sully?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Mcarthy blew off Silver in the post game too.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Fair and Square…
Clearly a great catch….
YIP YIP YIPPPPPPEEEEEE.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Seems like a catch to me.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Rob Lowe @RobLowe
Obviously, freedom of speech is not honored in the #NFL. The coaches are clearly muzzled in post game press conference.
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Rob Lowe knows.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
It wasn’t simultaneous. Jennings has the ball to his chest. Player has the ball to his chest, and the ball doesn’t hit the ground, it’s a catch.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Clutch throw by wison.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Gerry Austin, former Super Bowl official:
“That was not simultaneous possession.”
Random Raider fan…
“That was simultaneous!”
Ummm.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mike Silverjew of Yahoo sports is a tool. (sorry Maynard)
September 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Thec and Dakota have agendas. I suspect Dakota is a Packer hater living where he does.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Wilson was nails in the last drive.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Agenda 21…lol
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
NFL keeping he black man down.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
The C!!!…did I miss you yesterday????????…I was lit,..dont remember if I saw you or not.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Hehehehehehehehehe!
He’s a football coach Alex!
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alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Gruden:
“There’s no way Green Bay should have to fly back 6,000 miles home after losing a game like this…”
Because apparently Green Bay is in Bosnia.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
The wr clearly had his left arm around the ball before the defender secured it.
Very good call!
Now the missed offensive pi….that is another story.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Thec, no doubt. Wilson was nails. Just heaved that thing into the air, right into Green Bay’s hands.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Yeah, I,m trying to start sch1t.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
The C!!!…did I miss you yesterday????????…I was lit,..dont remember if I saw you or not.
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Whats good Brother? No could not make it however, did you get the bottle I sent to you yesterday?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
It wasn’t The Raiders or a Raiders division rival, and it didn’t involve any AFC team that The Raiders could be possibly in a wild card race with, so I don’t care.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Sully, you said that?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Wow, Aaron Rodgers said officials mistakenly gave the Packers the k-ball to throw for their 2-point conversion try
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September 24th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
This says it all! haha!!!
alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Gerry Austin, former Super Bowl official:
“That was not simultaneous possession.”
Random Raider fan…
“That was simultaneous!”
Ummm.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
No I didnt,..bet Brien drank it all!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Thec, no doubt. Wilson was nails. Just heaved that thing into the air, right into Green Bay’s hands
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One of the better hail marrys I have seen in the last decade…
Wilson = ROY
September 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
It wasn’t The Raiders or a Raiders division rival, and it didn’t involve any AFC team that The Raiders could be possibly in a wild card race with, so I don’t care.
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Same think could easily happen to the Raiders next week in Denver. So you should care.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
NFL rulebook says:
If a pass is caught simultaneously buy 2 eligible opponents, and both retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player games control first and n opponent subsequently gains joint control.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
*thing
September 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Thanks anyway The C,…see ya Jax game?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
That’s why you can’t let it come down to the clowns in the zebra suits.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Steve Young:
Replacement refs “effecting the competitive landscape of the NFL”
September 24th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
The C!!!…did I miss you yesterday????????…I was lit,..dont remember if I saw you or not.////////////////Norco, I’m feeling a kindred spirit.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
If it happens to The Raiders I’ll care. If it happens in The Raiders favor, I will be happy about it even while thinking it was a blown call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Seeing Mike Silverbergstein getting dissed on the field was priceless,…Silverbergsteinjew is a female dog of a man.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
The replay clearly shows both players’ hands were on the ball at the exact same moment and before the defender gained control= simultaneous control= td
September 24th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
No I didnt,..bet Brien drank it all!!!
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I hope not, i wil ask him.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Thanks anyway The C,…see ya Jax game?
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Yeah I will be at that game…A bottle of Patron.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Charles Woodson was part of the Tuck Rule Game and now this. Can’t wait to hear his postgame comments. Woodson pulls no punches
September 24th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Wait,..was it Patron???????????????…I am starting to remember,..dang,..yesterday was nuts bro.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
The C,…I remember now,..yes I got some of it,…hey thanks brother,..it was great!!!!!….see ya in a month!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
The C,…I remember now,..yes I got some of it,…hey thanks brother,..it was great!!!!!….see ya in a month!!!
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Anytime Brother…. 1 NATION
September 24th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Bye Roger……you’re toast. “Referee Gate” will be your legacy!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Cris clemons gets sacks every time i watch that dude.. 4 tonite? Wish we kept him a few yrs back..
September 24th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Wilson may win MVP after that performance…
Mr. Wilson = Captain Clutch
September 24th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Could you imagine the Super Bowl with replacement refs?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
1 Nation. Word.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Will Brinson @willbrinson
NFL rule book: “Not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control”
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Thec and Dakota
September 24th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
If Raiders were jobbed like that, no body would be talking about it after the game , these BSPN heads would have prolly said it was the right call.. end of the story
September 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
F the old refs,…all you guys did for years was bag on them, now you want them back?…screw you people. I love the new refs. The old refs were bred to hate the Raiders,..was in their DNA,..I liek the new ones.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
beech dawg sux my man hood
September 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Amy, I kind of agree. Old refs come back, it’s back to bad calls against the Raiders. Raiders had like no penalties in the first half yesterday. That would not happen with the old refs. Even if the Raiders laid down on every play.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Madden raider, when did the wr’s left arm ever leave the ball giving the defender control? It didn’t. The rule is not who had more control.
Good call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
The “old” refs have a lot better chance calling a game correctly, the scabs? Not so much as tonight has shown.
It only took 3 weeks for a team to get clearly hosed.
Bye Rog!
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AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
F the old refs,…all you guys did for years was bag on them, now you want them back?…screw you people. I love the new refs. The old refs were bred to hate the Raiders,..was in their DNA,..I liek the new ones.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
McFadden, the last time the Raiders were jobbed with this magnitude was the tuck job. And there was plenty of talk about it.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Thec Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Wilson may win MVP after that performance…
Mr. Wilson = Captain Clutch
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sniff sniff
September 24th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Hey Dave,..go F yourself.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
McFadden, the last time the Raiders were jobbed with this magnitude was the tuck job. And there was plenty of talk about it.
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There was plenty of talk about it , but it was more like 50/50 on who’s side they were on .. some called it the right call, some called it wrong… but these guys are all on GB’s jock and everyone is admitting GB got jobbed
September 24th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
McFadden, I don’t think so. That was a long time ago, but I remember polls being at like 80% our side. I remember Niner fans being mad because they wanted Jerry to get another ring.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Well Raider Nation I don’t know how much more proof you need to understand that our team has to go back to the old ways of Raider Football. I’m not talking tactics what I mean is mentality. This team has to follow the Raider Rules:
Rule #1: Cheating is encouraged.
Rule #2: See Raider Rule #1.
Until the NFL gets this officiating thing figured out the Raiders need to figure out what they can get away with and push right up to the limit. Don’t get penalties just push to the limit. It’s back yard football out there now and we have to be the hammer and not the nail. DB’s need to play aggressive WR’s need to push off until flagged. And as for the trenches they need to channel their inner Matuszak and put a foot in the Broncos A$$ next Sunday!!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Wilson’s confidence is going to go thru the roof after that play…wow
September 24th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
McFadden, I don’t think so. That was a long time ago, but I remember polls being at like 80% our side. I remember Niner fans being mad because they wanted Jerry to get another ring.
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Who cares about the polls, I’m talking about the most talking heads, they were like oh just a stupid rule and correct call blah blah blah .. only some really said it was a bad call
September 24th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
thec, sniff, sniff.
I aint biting bruh!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
AmysInCharge Says
Wait,..was it Patron???????????????…I am starting to remember,..dang,..yesterday was nuts bro.////////I had some.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
You’re probably right, McFadden.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Thec Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Wilson’s confidence is going to go thru the roof after that play…wow
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DUDE choked twice to win the game … had 4 tries from inside arizona 10.. week or 2 ago to win , and lost….. no matter what the end result was .. he lost this game as well with the chance to win
September 24th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Phil Simms announced the actual Tuck Rule game and was appalled by the call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Fück the old mob refs… these refs are exciting and they dont hate us.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
AmysInCharge Says: Hey Dave,..go F yourself./////Norco speaks.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
McFadden,
Thec isn’t serious. He’s baiting me.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
I will defer to mike pereia on the call.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
thec, sniff, sniff.
I aint biting bruh!!!
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If you won’t someone will…lol
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Madden raider, when did the wr’s left arm ever leave the ball giving the defender control? It didn’t. The rule is not who had more control.
Good call.
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One guy has two arms wrapped around the ball and to his chest while the other guy has one arm barely on the ball. That is your definition of a catch?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
McFadden,
Thec isn’t serious. He’s baiting me.
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OH okay..
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Nooooorco!!!
Player’s Pub tonight?
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I’m liking football, right now.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
I’m enjoying this train wreck. Nothing else on t.v. tonight.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
TJ Lang @TJLang70
F*ck it NFL.. Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs.
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September 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
You like season 3 of Empire MR?…I like Gyp, hes full of awesome rage,..hope he kills Nuckies wife, after he rapes her.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
WOW this guy predicted a Raider Win versus the Steelers. Classic Must watch. He calls his shot toward the middle of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeID_PxdMY&feature=share&list=UUsHirDT_EqUoeIq5k1lw8mA
September 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm //////Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm ////////you’re getting good.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
A one handed catch Is still a catch last I knew.
Td!!!!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Games like tonight and all weekend long proves the fact that every dog, no matter how many fleas he’s carrying, we’ll eventually have his day.
Palmer definitely finally had his, don’t get too excited though, the problem as always has been inconsistency. The dogs definitely danced this weekend, like they say on any given Sunday…
September 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
A one handed catch Is still a catch last I knew.
Td!!!!
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You are funny Dakota.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Amy, haven’t gotten into Empire. Doesn’t do it for me. I keep comparing it to the Sopranos. I’m just glad Eastbound and Down ordered another season.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Time to get the F outta dodge…All you guys enjoy the night.
1 NATION
September 24th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Later, Thec.
1 Nation.
Wilson sucks.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Empire is awesome, give it a try. Eastbound should have stopped after one year.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Later The C,..you da man, thanks for the booze.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
The bigger issue tonight is how on earth was Chris Clemons let go!
September 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Dakota, you will singing a different tune when Raiders get jobbed in Denver next week.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I have seen that same play happen the exact same way a few times before, and every time it had been called an Int. As far as I remember anyway. I think that was an Int.
However, another thing that I find interesting, have you guys noticed how a lot of the “superbowl contender” teams are not doing so hot right now? A lot of it has to do with the refs. Makes you think, could there be some favoritism from the regular refs for the NEs and GBs of the NFL? If you ask me, aside from the terrible calls and non-calls, it seems like there’s more of an even playing field now.
September 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I am telling you right now the raiders got fked in Denver next Sunday. Total bs call.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
zopi Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Games like tonight and all weekend long proves the fact that every dog, no matter how many fleas he’s carrying, we’ll eventually have his day.
Palmer definitely finally had his, don’t get too excited though, the problem as always has been inconsistency. The dogs definitely danced this weekend, like they say on any given Sunday…
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CP3 is a top ten QB. Name ten better.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Packers got robbed. I haven’t seen a review that bad since the tuck! I hate Tom Brady
September 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I agree with Dakota. That was a horrible call
September 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
The RULE doesn’t mention TWO HANDS…it just says “possession”
So if both guys have simultaneous control…whether it be one hand or two…it goes to offensive player.
This isn’t a slam dunk.
Regardless, GB could still be outraged that there was no offensive int. called.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Even a high school ref could see the offensive player didn’t have “possession.” I think the ref who called “TD” was intimidated by the crowd.
I am, however, not automatically in favor of the NFL giving in to all demands of the ref’s union. The NFL does want to be able to sit refs who have had too many iffy calls (after all, as Raider fans, we know that many regular NFL refs are horrible)but the union won’t concede that. The NFL also wants future refs to be younger, able to run with the speed of the game, and be in good shape, but the union is fighting modifications of that, I guess.
I’d hate to see refs reach the point of a union strong enough to protect the worst of them forever, like the California Teachers’ Association.
more professional organizations with bargaining power, I’m for that.
Unions need to be replaced by a professional organization which polices its own, reprimands its own, and can kick out its own.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
http://www.natvan.com/leaflets/aids.pdf <—- you been warned
September 24th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
…Gb got robbed, but I can see where there is just a little room for some debate.
I don’t think it WAS simultaneous…that’s the key.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
F U fangs!!
September 24th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
If three dudes in a car with one bag of marijuana can all have possession, then a wr who clearly had a arm around the ball certainly had possession.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Haha now the packers know how it feels to be a Raider. We used to get screwed by the refs
September 24th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
#604: elsewhere in the rulebook, I believe “possession” is defined and the guy in green never had “possession” so that he couldn’t also have ever had “simultaneous possession.”
Seattle’s Tate was simply touching the ball with one hand as he had that arm around the defender. The defender had possession of the ball by virtue of his having both hands “on” and “around the ball” and by virtue of his holding that ball to his chest.
It wasn’t even close. Why the hell the two refs didn’t walk over to the sideline and confer, I’ll never know. Feeling the pressure, I guess.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Palmer is doing good. He is playing above average and seems to have improved every game from game 1 to game 3. And that’s playing with DHB, Moore, Streater, and Hagan. A good group, but nothing really special. And remember, Moore was out one game. I think he will be fine.
The running game is my concern. If you take away that big run from McFadden, we really struggled running the ball all 3 games. This needs to be addressed and fixed very soon. In part, I am glad the bye week is so early. There’s some major tweaking that needs to be done on that side of the offense.
I think letting Palmer call audibles at the line was a great idea yesterday. Because he knew the Pitts D, and was able to recognize what they were doing. If he can do that every week with the other teams that he hasn’t played as much, this is something that should be used quite a bit. Saunders I think might be starting to have a say on this offense. Hopefully.
Should be interesting to see what they do without DHB next week.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
NFL Replacement Ref @NFLReplacerRef
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September 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
LMFAO at all the replacement ref outrage. What, folks are finally getting to taste the medicine the Raiders have been force fed all this time and they’ve learned it doesn’t taste so good? Swallow it down, suckas!
September 24th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Pass interference
September 24th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
F U fangs!!
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Hey Saint what is the racist up to now can’t see the link on my BB phn.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
LMFAO at all the replacement ref outrage. What, folks are finally getting to taste the medicine the Raiders have been force fed all this time and they’ve learned it doesn’t taste so good? Swallow it down, suckas!
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You tell ‘em.
Only problem is this game will probably bring back the hater refs.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
LMFAO at all the replacement ref outrage. What, folks are finally getting to taste the medicine the Raiders have been force fed all this time and they’ve learned it doesn’t taste so good? Swallow it down, suckas!
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You tell ‘em.
Only problem is this game will probably bring back the hater refs.
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Yeah, very true. Very true. This one might just be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Get ready for talks to resume in earnest.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Conspiracy Theorist says:
The NFL is letting this ref strike go all year long because they plan to control the outcome of the games and they couldn’t do it with the regular refs. The replacement refs will do it for money because they really have nothing to lose. The NFL plan is to make this year “the year of the underdog” in hopes of helping all the mediocre teams gain some popularity and therefore create some more revenue for the NFL owners. Expect the Superbowl to be played between the two teams that have been bringing in the less revenue.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
East,
Just stupid crap. I don’t allow hate of any kind in my home and so I guess I reacted a little there.
F’ing tool!
September 24th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
People are getting banned. Have your fun now Beeeechams gay lover, Fangraiders and others.
Not just your sockpuppet handles but your entire account so u can’t just change your handle and come back.
You’ll be able to get around it by using another ip address but they’re gonna try and crack down on all the racist crap and instigator trolls.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Truth is, when you catch a ball in the air, you’re not considered to have “possession” unless you complete the catch through the fall. So with that rule the defender didn’t have possession until he went to the ground. By then, Tate had possession as well.
So there, there is your explanation…… Right? That has to be the only explanation….right…… I’m still not buying it. It was intercepted
September 24th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
This is mass hysteria over this call…
Haven’t seen people this mad and irrational since the Florida recount.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
LMFAO at all the replacement ref outrage. What, folks are finally getting to taste the medicine the Raiders have been force fed all this time and they’ve learned it doesn’t taste so good? Swallow it down, suckas!
—
You tell ‘em.
Only problem is this game will probably bring back the hater refs.
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Yeah, very true. Very true. This one might just be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Get ready for talks to resume in earnest.
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So true. Anyone notice how little the Raiders have been penalized since we got rid of the bias refs?
Week 1: 6 for 35 yards
Week 2: 3 for 21 yards
Week 3: 3 for 25 yards
With regular refs that will be in 3 quarters of a game not 3 games.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
EMRaiders Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Conspiracy Theorist says:
The NFL is letting this ref strike go all year long because they plan to control the outcome of the games and they couldn’t do it with the regular refs. The replacement refs will do it for money because they really have nothing to lose. The NFL plan is to make this year “the year of the underdog” in hopes of helping all the mediocre teams gain some popularity and therefore create some more revenue for the NFL owners. Expect the Superbowl to be played between the two teams that have been bringing in the less revenue.
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I like it. No small coincidence Raider penalties are down. The league knows when the Raiders are winning, it is good for the NFL. This will be the Raiders year (barring a settlement between the NFL and the Officiating Union people folks).
September 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
GO RAIDERS!
September 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
That’s all I got… nite, fellas.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
I just heard there is a call for the owners to start putting pressure on the league to settle the strike. As long as we got replacements in Denver, it’s all good.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
East,
Just stupid crap. I don’t allow hate of any kind in my home and so I guess I reacted a little there.
F’ing tool!
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I figured I was gonna check it out on CPU but I think ill pass.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I’m glad I missed this game while I was working. Personally, I just see this as a union busting scheme in an election year.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
625.
sounds like conspiracy bs talk, although it does actually make some sense.
i do credit the penaltyless game we just had to Dennis Allen. there were some non calls to be certain, but mostly one sided favoring the squeelers
as for the call tonight … it’ll just tip the scales bigtime, plain and simple. if Adolph Goodell doesn’t make something happen after this, i will start to believe the conspiracy talk.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
xraided Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
i do credit the penaltyless game we just had to Dennis Allen. there were some non calls to be certain, but mostly one sided favoring the squeelers
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Really? So none of the last 10 coaches could possibly stop the penalty problem but somehow Allen is able to?
September 24th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
JFB, haha! good call
yo yo man.. how bout them GIGANTES?! didn’t even realize they were clinching Saturday night… when they started celebrating im like WTF? OH YEA! BOOM!
give the A’s a hardy SPECTACLES TESTICLES WALLET N WATCH prayer for me would ya? god help them with 5 rookie pitchers to close it out against the big fish of the AL
September 24th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
yes Timmah. absolutely. you can tell they don’t want to jump offsides.
the refs don’t miss false starts. they don’t miss too many offensive holding calls. go count how many were against the Raiders. not that many. to say the refs were the cause of the low penalty game is ignorant.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Packers got jobbed, slobbed and knobbed.
NFL is cluless.
Game needs to be reversed tomorrow.
Packers get the W, Seattle gets the L
We need the real deal to stabalize this trainwreck.
End the lockout now, end the strike now. End the insanity.
Fans will quit going to games because the travesty will be too much to witness.
Just say no to greed. Stop the madness.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
BTW,
the last 10 coaches had Al Davis’ players and coaches to work with. this is a new regime and a brand new staff. not too hard to believe at this point that they can play more disciplined football.
if it continues and they stay at or around 5 penalties a game, i will call it a VAST improvement, and give some credit to the fact that the replacement refs miss a lot of calls.
with that said, i don’t expect them to make a complete 180 this year … but if they even cut down 30% from last year, that’s a dramatic improvement, wouldn’t ya say?
September 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
yea 635, i agree that they should give GB the W .
it will taint the game, yes, but it is the RIGHT CALL and they deserve a win.
if they miss the playoffs because of one game, the RAIDER NATION will welcome the CHEESEHEADS to our Tuck Rule hell! muahah
September 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
The call on the field tonight was correct….
The Packer corner did not have possession until his 2nd foot touched down in the endzone….
Did the Packer DB catch the ball in the air first? Yes….however, the catch is not complete until his 2nd foot lands in the endzone….
Once his 2nd foot landed….both the Offense and Defense possessed the football….
And then the co possession rule takes precedence….
Call is correct!
September 24th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Need a scorecard to figure out who’s who in here tonight.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
xraided Says: if they miss the playoffs because of one game, the RAIDER NATION will welcome the CHEESEHEADS to our Tuck Rule hell! muahah/////////////////Something to that.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
F the old refs,…all you guys did for years was bag on them, now you want them back?…screw you people. I love the new refs. The old refs were bred to hate the Raiders,..was in their DNA,..I liek the new ones.
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Tonight’s call was horrible, but there is a lot of truth to this. We didn’t suddenly go from a record-setting penalty team to one of the least penalized teams in the league because of Dennis Allen’s “attention to detail” or whatever the media tries to attribute it to. Remember Hue had refs working every practice last year to try to curtail the penalty problem?
The change is because the Raider-hating regulars are not around.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
First time n my life I ever seen a Qb throw an Interception on the last play of the game to Win It?????
September 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Or because Al Davis has passed and the league will now relax it’s revenge.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Well get a scorecard and get busy then.
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Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Need a scorecard to figure out who’s who in here tonight.
September 24th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
It was not Ruled a Tie Ball One Ref Ruled It an Interception the Other Ref Ruled it a Touch Down They took it to instant replay before the Call was Clarified on the Field and a instant Replay Ref Decided to Rule It a Touch Down Period! Bad Game Management by REFS
September 24th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
The call on the field tonight was correct….
The Packer corner did not have possession until his 2nd foot touched down in the endzone….
Did the Packer DB catch the ball in the air first? Yes….however, the catch is not complete until his 2nd foot lands in the endzone….
Once his 2nd foot landed….both the Offense and Defense possessed the football….
And then the co possession rule takes precedence….
Call is correct!
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um, so you’re saying in order for one to have full possession of the ball, he must land on his feet? even when he has both arms and hands fully possessing it in mid air?
September 24th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Raiders/Steelers on Nfl replay Tues. night.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Hi Everyone
You know I’m a happy Raider fan. When the Raiders win, it makes me o so very happy. Feel bad for Packer fans. But the Raider win made me happy, o yes it did.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
F the old refs,…all you guys did for years was bag on them, now you want them back?…screw you people. I love the new refs. The old refs were bred to hate the Raiders,..was in their DNA,..I liek the new ones.
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Tonight’s call was horrible, but there is a lot of truth to this. We didn’t suddenly go from a record-setting penalty team to one of the least penalized teams in the league because of Dennis Allen’s “attention to detail” or whatever the media tries to attribute it to. Remember Hue had refs working every practice last year to try to curtail the penalty problem?
The change is because the Raider-hating regulars are not around.
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i tend to think the Raiders are clearly getting better. their biggest achilles heal was false starting, correct me if i’m wrong …
so, how many times did they jump off sides that you guys saw and the zebras missed?
i’ll tell you this much, Willie Smith plays more disciplined football than Barnes.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
anyone see beeech around here? must be slobbering on antoines nob end
September 24th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
I’m Happy we won Sunday The Kool- aid is wearing off as Sunday Approaches
September 24th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
point of that is when our Raiders commit penalties, they are UNDENIABLE on all accounts. i didn’t see many blatant holds and hard count jumps, especially when they were knocking on the door in the red zone. they stayed stout and didn’t flinch at all.
that’s what i call PROGESS … not a complete 180. that would be impossible at this point.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
*PROGRESS
September 24th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
If this team signs a receiver it should be Plaxico.
He will provide a good big red zone target and he can win one on one matchups.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
HOLLA HOLLA HOLLA
told yawl i finally dropped a duece after the raids win. i been strikin for almost three weeks. but i dueced about a two hour small pick-up truck load worth of duece and then celebrated by takin my hog down to the cruz. me and my girlfriend holla. my ex could learn a thing or two from my girlfriend. we aint got nuthin to hide.
FOSHIZZLE SHIZZLE SHIZZLE THATS HOW I ROLL
September 24th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
xraided Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Chris In NY Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
F the old refs,…all you guys did for years was bag on them, now you want them back?…screw you people. I love the new refs. The old refs were bred to hate the Raiders,..was in their DNA,..I liek the new ones.
———————-
Tonight’s call was horrible, but there is a lot of truth to this. We didn’t suddenly go from a record-setting penalty team to one of the least penalized teams in the league because of Dennis Allen’s “attention to detail” or whatever the media tries to attribute it to. Remember Hue had refs working every practice last year to try to curtail the penalty problem?
The change is because the Raider-hating regulars are not around.
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Exactly!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Tonights call was a good call. Tie goes to the receiver! LOL!
Now the SeaChickens are tied with the Niners….luv it!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
I’m Happy we won Sunday The Kool- aid is wearing off as Sunday Approaches
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Manning doesn’t impress me. the Raiders should be fired up here. they’re playing in a place where they completely DOMINATE the Donko’s, THEIR OWN HOUSE!
the DONKO defense doesn’t impress me much either. i’m pretty sure the Raiders could have prevented those down field strikes to AJ early on, something the donko’s could not contain whatsoever.
i’m confident Miller and Dumervil will be tamed, based on what i saw big V and the lowly KaWhiff Barnes do to them last season.
DMC loves playing the Donkos as well. gotta count that in. HES HEALTHY! ITS A HAPPY DAY!
the one thing they may kill the Raiders is all the injuries to their WRs. Moore and Hagan the only healthy ones? lame!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
The call on the field tonight was correct….
The Packer corner did not have possession until his 2nd foot touched down in the endzone….
Did the Packer DB catch the ball in the air first? Yes….however, the catch is not complete until his 2nd foot lands in the endzone….
Once his 2nd foot landed….both the Offense and Defense possessed the football….
And then the co possession rule takes precedence….
Call is correct!
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Exactly!
Tie goes to the receiver when it comes to the possession rules.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
xraided Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
I’m Happy we won Sunday The Kool- aid is wearing off as Sunday Approaches
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Manning doesn’t impress me. the Raiders should be fired up here. they’re playing in a place where they completely DOMINATE the Donko’s, THEIR OWN HOUSE!
the DONKO defense doesn’t impress me much either. i’m pretty sure the Raiders could have prevented those down field strikes to AJ early on, something the donko’s could not contain whatsoever.
i’m confident Miller and Dumervil will be tamed, based on what i saw big V and the lowly KaWhiff Barnes do to them last season.
DMC loves playing the Donkos as well. gotta count that in. HES HEALTHY! ITS A HAPPY DAY!
the one thing they may kill the Raiders is all the injuries to their WRs. Moore and Hagan the only healthy ones? lame!
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That means we can see more power formation sets with Ausberry split out and Myers and Gordon inside and Reece split out with Moore, Hagan and hopefully Streater available.
Palmer needs to run the no huddle and change Knapps plays as much as possible again!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
i do agree that the old refs are BOGUS … i still like the new refs.. aside from DHB and Myers non call on the helmet to helmet … that’s just because of stupidity, not bias against the S&B. long live the replacement refs!
so… the receiver doesn’t truly have possession until his feet or body touches the ground?!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
beeecham gets tied up and then ram rodded by his friends
September 24th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
“Palmer needs to run the no huddle and change Knapps plays as much as possible again!”
true story. haha! that’s what i was telling all my whiner fan co-workers today … when they were talking crap about Palmer in previous weeks. i said “see what it’s like to have a smart QB that can actually thread the needle, unlike Alexis?”
September 24th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
It was not Ruled a Tie Ball One Ref Ruled It an Interception the Other Ref Ruled it a Touch Down They took it to instant replay before the Call was Clarified on the Field and a instant Replay Ref Decided to Rule It a Touch Down Period! Bad Game Management by REFS////////////Clarified it for me.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Dakota Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I am telling you right now the raiders got fked in Denver next Sunday. Total bs call.
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I can already see that as well. The Raiders will get screwed next week by the refs because the league and these replacement refs will not want golden boy Manning to lose two in a row.
Look for some shady calls against the Raiders this Sunday.
Raiders just need to play their azzes off again and hope for the best.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
although CP3 achieved about Alexis’ passing YPG, he still threw for 3 TDs. the pick doesn’t count. still, Palmer changed the plays correctly. he’s starting to get warmed up.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Look for the Broncos to blitz like crazy also.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
xraided Says: so… the receiver doesn’t truly have possession until his feet or body touches the ground?!/////////been watching football long?
September 24th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Screens to DMC and Reece all day as well.
I’m talking REAL screens where DMC and Reece will have two blockers in front of them and not some lame azz Knapp swing pass.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
xraided Says: so… the receiver doesn’t truly have possession until his feet or body touches the ground?!/////////been watching football long?
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of course. i just thought it would be considered whoever wrapped their arms around the ball and maintained the possession while hitting the ground is all.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
I’m furious the A’s lost tonight. Let me take it out on Amy, the 49er fan. What’s that about Alex Smith being a great QB? What a freakin’ joke! Smith can’t touch Carson Palmer’s jock. Nice 4th quarter INT, Smith. We see you are the same bum you always were!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Eff the overrated 49ers. They will be luck to finish ahead of the Rams in their division in 2012. Go Arizona! HA HA HA!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
it’s just confusing because of the reaction it’s getting. if it’s considered a tie, which many think it wasn’t because of the defender grabbing it and possessing it first, then this wouldn’t be as big of a deal.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Now Green Bay knows what it’s like for dumb referees to cheat a team out of a victory. It’s happened to us 3 times in the PLAYOFFS: Pittsburgh 1972, Denver 1977, and worst of all New England 2002!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
This is why the Raiders will get screwed this weekend:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/other-sports/ci_21602382/nfl-replacement-referees-continue-drop-ball
“Then there’s the betting issue. Las Vegas casinos believe this will be the highest-scoring weekend ever because of the replacements. And lines may be skewed even more toward the home team if officials continue calling penalties against the visitors at a higher rate.”
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IMO…look for this weekends games to be the last we see of the replacement refs.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I tell you one thing.
What a great past weekend of games overall!
Replacement refs letting them play for the most part!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Screens to DMC and Reece all day as well.
I’m talking REAL screens where DMC and Reece will have two blockers in front of them and not some lame azz Knapp swing pass.
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they are ignoring Reece a lot so far. he needs to get more involved. get him into space for crying out loud. he will beat out most linebackers, especially the DONKOS.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Correction: Denver on January 1, 1978.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
NFL can fine me, too. I’ll wipe my butt with the money first! #RogerGoodell
September 24th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
wouldn’t some other team already be heaving TDs to Plax in the red zone if he was all that some think he is? Some people are just crazy enough to avoid. Maybe it is obvious to everyone in the NFL.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
I get a kick how most game announcers and play analysts (in looking at collinsworth) LOVE speaking out and ripping the replacement refs.
But when the old ones were making bad calls they would all swallow their tongues and that is what will happen when the old ones come back. Nobody will criticize anything they do wrong.
Ridiculous.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
wouldn’t some other team already be heaving TDs to Plax in the red zone if he was all that some think he is? Some people are just crazy enough to avoid. Maybe it is obvious to everyone in the NFL.
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Maybe. At least Plax isn’t as lame as Chad Johnson.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
xraided Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
The call on the field tonight was correct….
The Packer corner did not have possession until his 2nd foot touched down in the endzone….
Did the Packer DB catch the ball in the air first? Yes….however, the catch is not complete until his 2nd foot lands in the endzone….
Once his 2nd foot landed….both the Offense and Defense possessed the football….
And then the co possession rule takes precedence….
Call is correct!
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um, so you’re saying in order for one to have full possession of the ball, he must land on his feet? even when he has both arms and hands fully possessing it in mid air?
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I’m saying possession does not truly exist until the feet are on the ground….once the Packer player lands with 2 feet, both the Offense and Defense have 2 hands around the ball….
I think the rule is what it is….I don’t care either way…but based on the way it is worded…I think they got the call correct..
For the record, I think the Raider got screwed on the tuck rule game…..no matter what the wording…
Bazinga!
September 24th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
true, Chad 85 is a toolbag.
September 24th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
SeaHags now tied with the Niners in the NFC West!
Luv it! LOL
September 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Wow…stirring comeback!
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AmysInCharge Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Hey Dave,..go F yourself.
September 25th, 2012 at 12:29 am
So in other words the Raiders aren’t good enough and need help from the league to become relevant again….
I think someone needs to put the crack pipe down for a while.
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WinAGame Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
EMRaiders Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Conspiracy Theorist says:
The NFL is letting this ref strike go all year long because they plan to control the outcome of the games and they couldn’t do it with the regular refs. The replacement refs will do it for money because they really have nothing to lose. The NFL plan is to make this year “the year of the underdog” in hopes of helping all the mediocre teams gain some popularity and therefore create some more revenue for the NFL owners. Expect the Superbowl to be played between the two teams that have been bringing in the less revenue.
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I like it. No small coincidence Raider penalties are down. The league knows when the Raiders are winning, it is good for the NFL. This will be the Raiders year (barring a settlement between the NFL and the Officiating Union people folks).
September 25th, 2012 at 12:43 am
How many games have the G.B. Packers should have lost but won because of the cheater officiating? Recall when Bret Favre hurt his thumb against the Raiders. We beat the crap out of him and his team that day. He started crying like a baby at the post game news conference. He led the GBP down the field against the Raiders (keeping the drive alive by b s officiating). The GBP getting “jobbed” today is Karma! Like I said, I hope the entire season goes without the union officials because they are a corrupt bunch of cheaters!
September 25th, 2012 at 1:03 am
I think without DHB the Raiders will be fine. DHB has worked very hard to be where he is at now but “sure hands” he is not! DMoore, Hagan and Streater and even the fullback Reese, all seem to have better hands than DHB. Those 4, plus the High % dink and dunk (Gannon esk) offense, should be very effective. I think the HC should try that with the Donkies first. The short completions will open things up top. D Moore or even Streater should be able to get the cagey vet Bailey or Porter to make a mistake and bring home the vic! Now that play-maker Reese is signed up he should be doing what he does play- make key plays! I cant wait
September 25th, 2012 at 1:18 am
possession does not truly exist//////////////existentialist football, don’t you love it?
September 25th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Actually DHB was just gaining my confidence. When targeted I actually thought he’d come down with the ball.Couldn’t say that last year. Hope he can make it back.
September 25th, 2012 at 1:28 am
EMRaiders Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Conspiracy Theorist says:////////Too young for the grassy knoll/ book depository thing?
September 25th, 2012 at 1:30 am
I’m too old. You think 9/11 was orchestrated.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:48 am
Raider8 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
People are getting banned. Have your fun now Beeeechams gay lover, Fangraiders and others.
Not just your sockpuppet handles but your entire account so u can’t just change your handle and come back.
You’ll be able to get around it by using another ip address but they’re gonna try and crack down on all the racist crap and instigator trolls.
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aren’t u wanna of beeech’s boys? i knew he would take this track. he’s completely obliterated and he wants the moderators to protect him. he won’t know what to do with his life if he can’t come on a raiders blog and talk about his fantasies. poor guy. i always wondered what he got out of it all. over and over posting about his pretend parties. kinda psychotic.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:51 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Robert, the guy who owns Star Party Cruises name is Robert Forster.
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Albert Bigelo Klas, you should contact Mr. Forster about his party cruise and start talking to him about all the fun you have on the football blog
That would be so great, my Blog Brahs and I would really enjoy hearing how that turns out
Please Goober, do it just for the laughs
KILLIN’ FRESH WAX
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hey klas–notice how he calls him MR. FORSTER. have we ever seen beeech be that respectful? only to an employer of his in real life. he lets little stuff slip out that tells the whole story. he knows him as MR. FORSTER. fantasy over.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:05 am
Wow.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:30 am
sirblitzalot Says:
September 25th, 2 lol,no,lets high five them,ie take shots ala texans and knock peytons head off
September 25th, 2012 at 3:39 am
Dhb,come back soon buddy,dmac keep churnin
September 25th, 2012 at 4:01 am
Ever been outside on a warm September night? t-shirt warm or naked warm. 3:00 in the morning and you try to grab the stars but your arm isn’t long enough? I’m going out to enjoy it again.
September 25th, 2012 at 4:22 am
Had the deck lights on at 4:00 am and was going to enjoy some more of this wonderful night/morning and the damm rooster decided it was dawn. I’ve turned off the lights and will go back out and continue enjoying.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:00 am
I thought the roughing the passer on the INT Wilson threw, and the PI on Shields when he was going for the ball and getting yanked by the WR were much worse than the last TD call.
Simultaneous possession is a tough call you can at least see how that can be confusing. Those other two calls were just miserable, WTF are they looking at calls.
Still, I am for the replacement refs. They will get better over time, I think it adds a fun element to it all actually.
The “real” refs were only marginally better, IMO, still blew calls all the time, and weren’t half the entertainment.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:02 am
As a Raider fan, Im not able to feel anything about what happened in the Seahawk-Packer game. The “Snow-Job” we were given on January 19th 2001 in a Playoff game with so called REAL-REFS and with more important stakes at risk…to me this is nothin! When Greg Biekert hit Tom Brady, and Charles Woodson recovered that fumble, and Referee Walt Coleman said it was a Fumble, and then OVERTURNED it!!! Are You Kidding Me??!! I care about watching good football, but I just can’t feel any sympathy for Packer fans, and I know it is because of the “SNOW-JOB”!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:03 am
how is Criner’s ankle?
if he’s 100% and King Darrius isn’t , look for Carson Palmer to find him for at least 1 score against the donkeys
virtually no NFL tape on him, besides a preseason game in which Pryor was his QB
September 25th, 2012 at 5:03 am
I think Carson Bomber throws for 250 and 3 TD’s this week. DMAC runs for 125 & 2 TD’s
Raiders 38
Horse Humpers 24
September 25th, 2012 at 5:05 am
the “real refs” were Raider haters!!
I dont miss them AT ALL
nice to see a few other teams get screwed for a change
September 25th, 2012 at 5:07 am
702.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:02 am
As a Raider fan, Im not able to feel anything about what happened in the Seahawk-Packer game. The “Snow-Job” we were given on January 19th 2001 in a Playoff game with so called REAL-REFS and with more important stakes at risk…to me this is nothin! When Greg Biekert hit Tom Brady, and Charles Woodson recovered that fumble, and Referee Walt Coleman said it was a Fumble, and then OVERTURNED it!!! Are You Kidding Me??!! I care about watching good football, but I just can’t feel any sympathy for Packer fans, and I know it is because of the “SNOW-JOB”!
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OOPS I meant January 19th 2002.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:08 am
706.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:07 am
702.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:02 am
As a Raider fan, Im not able to feel anything about what happened in the Seahawk-Packer game. The “Snow-Job” we were given on January 19th 2001 in a Playoff game with so called REAL-REFS and with more important stakes at risk…to me this is nothin! When Greg Biekert hit Tom Brady, and Charles Woodson recovered that fumble, and Referee Walt Coleman said it was a Fumble, and then OVERTURNED it!!! Are You Kidding Me??!! I care about watching good football, but I just can’t feel any sympathy for Packer fans, and I know it is because of the “SNOW-JOB”!
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OOPS I meant January 19th 2002.
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But it still feels like it just happened Yesterday!!!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:12 am
707.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:08 am
706.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:07 am
702.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:02 am
As a Raider fan, Im not able to feel anything about what happened in the Seahawk-Packer game. The “Snow-Job” we were given on January 19th 2001 in a Playoff game with so called REAL-REFS and with more important stakes at risk…to me this is nothin! When Greg Biekert hit Tom Brady, and Charles Woodson recovered that fumble, and Referee Walt Coleman said it was a Fumble, and then OVERTURNED it!!! Are You Kidding Me??!! I care about watching good football, but I just can’t feel any sympathy for Packer fans, and I know it is because of the “SNOW-JOB”!
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OOPS I meant January 19th 2002.
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But it still feels like it just happened Yesterday!!!
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And thats right it was Woodson who hit Brady, and Biekert recovered.
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September 25th, 2012 at 5:17 am
I hate Pete carroll more than any player or coach, EVER!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Firebaby
I second that, the TD call was close and they did not overturn it.
I have seen reg refs overturn calls that were more obvious.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:29 am
Dear rest of the NFL, just watch that Tuck game and tell me those refs are better. Raiders Nation only fan base who could care less who refs.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:33 am
710.Plunketthead Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Firebaby
I second that, the TD call was close and they did not overturn it.
I have seen reg refs overturn calls that were more obvious.
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As A raider fan I could care less!!! I am still more concerned about out CB issues…and Gregg Knapp (although he called a better game plan, by including NO HUDDLE against steelers). I cant care because of the SNOW-JOB game!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:43 am
The call wasn’t even close. Jennings had clear control of the ball and Tate just got an arm in there. Refs were too scared to make a call against the home team. It was the Immaculate Reception all over again.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:43 am
I like the quirky-ness of it a little.
In baseball, every umpire has his own strike zone. Some give you the high strike, some don’t. Some get a smaller zone as the game goes along, some bigger.
Just sack up and play I say. Packers could have done a million things yesterday to win, besides having to leave it up to the last play.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:44 am
As A raider fan I could care less!!!
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You should care. Raiders could just as easily get screwed next week in Denver.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:45 am
One thing nobody ever brought up, but during the change or simultaneous possession deal, it looks to me like Jennings foot goes OOB for a split second.
Wouldn’t that be an incomplete pass then?
September 25th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Just sack up and play I say. Packers could have done a million things yesterday to win, besides having to leave it up to the last play.
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Packers played perfect defense on the last throw. One guy got shoved out of the way in the most obvious PI call ever and the other Packer intercepted the ball.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
We got more important concerns, like CB’s and Knapp, to care to much about that call last night…besides we’ve been screwed more than any other franchise in the NFL, by real-refs!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I think that ref who signaled TD was shady. He must have had ulterior motives. It is the only explanation.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:52 am
One guy got shoved out of the way in the most obvious PI call ever
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They had Gerry Austin, head ref for 27 years, in the booth at the end and he basically said anything goes on a hail mary when he was a ref.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:53 am
719.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I think that ref who signaled TD was shady. He must have had ulterior motives. It is the only explanation.
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Who Cares?
September 25th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:53 am
719.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I think that ref who signaled TD was shady. He must have had ulterior motives. It is the only explanation.
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Who Cares?
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LOL, You would have fit in nicely in Nazi Germany. Look the other way while your Jewish neighbors are being dragged away.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:56 am
I don’t believe in conspiracy theories or that refs “Screw over” teams.
The Tuck rule was the RIGHT CALL, has been called dozens of times since. We last that game, by not getting a first down to close it out. Not on the tuck call.
Last night, the Packers should have aced them out way earlier, but settled for FG’s, missed the 2 pt conversion, dropped passes all game.
Complaining about refs is the ultimate loser mentality and you will NEVER win by focusing on being a victim of some stupid foil-hat conspiracy theory.
September 25th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yes, I wondered last night, how the F can the ref who called that td call it? I know he seen the same thing I did, adn i saw Jennings clearly had possession…but that wasn’t the funny part of last night. How about Golden Tate’s interview when he was asked, “Did you push off?” In which Tate said, “Don’t know whatcha talkin’ about…” Haha, classic!
But comparing that and the tuck rule (in which Woodson is now part of 2 of the biggest controversial calls in the last decade)…wow, I was speechless! However, that tuck crap cost us a possible dynasty that went to NE instead!!!
September 25th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Someone on twitter called the game the “Golden Taint”.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:01 am
However, that tuck crap cost us a possible dynasty that went to NE instead!!!
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Raiders were too old to be a dynasty. Al would have still f*cked it up.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:01 am
JFB, you are right and Rodgers has said that yes, we shouldn’t have been in that situation to begin with! And yes, The Raiders gave up after that BS and we still could have contained the game! It was ours! However, that was teh first BS to decide the outcome!
Doesn’t matter though…will Goodell say enough is enough now? What do you think???
September 25th, 2012 at 6:02 am
will Goodell say enough is enough now? What do you think???
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If their is a nickle involved, Roger will try to squeeze into a dime.
So…..no, lol.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:04 am
LOL, this keeps getting better…
Schefter just tweeted…
So, what do you call last night’s game…The Inaccurate Reception, The Fail Mary…??? LOL
I saw one last night that said that Russell Wilson will go down in history as the first quarterback to win a game on an interception…LMAO!!!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:02 am
will Goodell say enough is enough now? What do you think???
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If their is a nickle involved, Roger will try to squeeze into a dime.
So…..no, lol.
I agree!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:06 am
John Clayton said this was just like the Immaculate Reception.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:07 am
The biggest problem facing this team right now is the complete and total absence of a pass rush. We are badly out manned in the secondary and cannot ask our corners to cover guys indefinitely. Shaughnessy, Houston and Tollefson have to produce SOME pressure, especially on third-downs, if we are going to win games.
Roethlisberger probably never had as much time in his career as he had Sunday. Manning and Ryan will kill us if they can wait all day for their receivers to find room in the middle of the field. Shaughnessy and Houston are veterans now who should be approaching their primes and must be able to get off their blocks. Simple as that.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Here’s a question. If the Raiders had lost a game to a ruling like this (even with the normal refs) would anyone in here be surprised?
September 25th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Timmah123 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Here’s a question. If the Raiders had lost a game to a ruling like this (even with the normal refs) would anyone in here be surprised?
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Yeah. Al Davis is dead. The NFL no longer has a reason to screw us.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Manning isn’t as mobile as Ben, obviously, so the same amount of pressure as last week will be more effective this week.
Still need to increase that pressure, but it will get better simply by who we are playing against.
Big Ben’s pocket niftiness, is seriously at the top of the list EVER, for NFL QB’s.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:11 am
723.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:56 am
I don’t believe in conspiracy theories or that refs “Screw over” teams.
The Tuck rule was the RIGHT CALL, has been called dozens of times since. We last that game, by not getting a first down to close it out. Not on the tuck call.
Last night, the Packers should have aced them out way earlier, but settled for FG’s, missed the 2 pt conversion, dropped passes all game.
Complaining about refs is the ultimate loser mentality and you will NEVER win by focusing on being a victim of some stupid foil-hat conspiracy theory.
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If you have seen that call, over and over…give me a for instance. Because I do not remember…You obviously a Cheatriot fan.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:11 am
ABP
what made you bring up andrews mom?
September 25th, 2012 at 6:12 am
LOL, Golden Tate became the first person to committ offensive interference, NOT catch the ball, and scored the winning touchdown!!!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Yes, I am a Cheatriots fan lol.
It has been called over and over again in the league, the same way it was against us.
Stupid rule, but called correctly.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Hi NFL,
Welcome to the league we’ve played in for decades – the one where wins are taken away from you by referees.
Signed,
The Oakland Raiders
September 25th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:11 am
ABP
what made you bring up andrews mom?
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We were talking about bad Raider QBs. I had mentioned Andrew Walter.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:15 am
EXACTLY TIMMAH123. I like these refs. Have THEY ever thrown A SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!! No and the ref who doesn’t even know what a pass is is sitting on his hands thinking about his past faults. -thats good. why would we pay him more and his buddies for their ignorance??? its not brain surgery. If your arm is going forward to throw a pass it’s a pass. If your arm is moving to pick your nose, to scratch to wait foolishly for Woodson to get ya, ITS NOT A PASS. And all these “sports writers” who carry the water for these “refs” are now whinnig??? ay ?????
September 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
722.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:53 am
719.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I think that ref who signaled TD was shady. He must have had ulterior motives. It is the only explanation.
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Who Cares?
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LOL, You would have fit in nicely in Nazi Germany. Look the other way while your Jewish neighbors are being dragged away.
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This is only football, what happened back then in Germany was a crime against the human-race…but still as a raider fan I have had my share of hit & runs!!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Saints are going to get killed by a pissed off Packer team.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:17 am
these refs do a lot of things but they don’t have that malignant arogance that the others display…. keep um train um, out with the old corrupt culture
September 25th, 2012 at 6:18 am
RaidingTexas Says:
Hi NFL,
Welcome to the league we’ve played in for decades – the one where wins are taken away from you by referees.
Signed,
The Oakland Raiders.
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Great post!.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:20 am
743.ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
722.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Ddwight Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:53 am
719.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I think that ref who signaled TD was shady. He must have had ulterior motives. It is the only explanation.
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Who Cares?
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LOL, You would have fit in nicely in Nazi Germany. Look the other way while your Jewish neighbors are being dragged away.
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This is only football, what happened back then in Germany was a crime against the human-race…but still as a raider fan I have had my share of hit & runs!!
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And even though he is passed on, AL was a maverick-owner who did things differently to succeed, he was not afraid to buck the trend…and for that I do believe that the other owners and the NFL had it in for him for awhile there, He didnt do everything right, but AL had courage.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:21 am
If your arm is going forward to throw a pass it’s a pass. If your arm is moving to pick your nose, to scratch to wait foolishly for Woodson to get ya, ITS NOT A PASS.
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Not according to the rule book.
Your guys beef on the Tuck call, isn’t on Walt Coleman but the rules committe who drafted it.
Walt called it correctly.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Bbq Before The Game Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:17 am
these refs do a lot of things but they don’t have that malignant arogance that the others display…. keep um train um, out with the old corrupt culture
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They also don’t have any balls.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Prediction for Sunday’s game:
Raiders 59 Broncos 14
September 25th, 2012 at 6:23 am
NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2.
When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body.
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Clear as day to me, that’s exactly what happened.
Brady didn’t complete the “tuck” process before Woodson decked him.
Again, stupid, stupid rule, but called correctly.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:23 am
sportsbook(dot)com actually refunded Packer bets last night. That is amazing.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:24 am
That was a horrible call last night, read the second part of the rule and it says if a player has control first (GB) and then a second player (SEA) gains control, it’s not a simultaneous catch, that was the whole point…it was not a simultaneous catch to begin with, just because Tate had his left hand on the ball doesn’t mean he had possession.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:24 am
748.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:21 am
If your arm is going forward to throw a pass it’s a pass. If your arm is moving to pick your nose, to scratch to wait foolishly for Woodson to get ya, ITS NOT A PASS.
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Not according to the rule book.
Your guys beef on the Tuck call, isn’t on Walt Coleman but the rules committe who drafted it.
Walt called it correctly.
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According to your post 723. I still would like to know when you have seen a similar call to the SNOW-JOB…you have not answered that yet.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Last night’s call was a bigger screw job than the tuck rule and the Immaculate Reception.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
POST-755,DONT THINK I AGREE.OTHER 2 HAD PLAYOFF IMPLICATIONS..
September 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Manning’s arm strength was never that good, but now it’s deteriorated to the point that he is susceptible to the deep wobbly INT. We need to throw a lot of shifting fronts at him and dare him to throw late deep. Take away the flat as much as we can with bump and run. Decker is his safety valve when he gets skittish, and he doesn’t have nearly the connection to Demaryius Thomas or comfort level as he does to Decker. Also, the Broncos starting RB McGahee may be out, so if they trot out Moreno and Ball or Hillman, that’s a huge advantage to our defense. I like our chances this week in Denver.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
The one constant in all of sports, is that home teams get the benefit of the calls, they always do.
Where did the Immaculate reception take place? The Tuck game? THE SUGARBEAR HAMILTON call? The Vinny Testaverde QB sneak TD? The call last night?
It always goes to the home team.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Honestly though, why did Jennings even try to catch it? You knock it away in that situation. He’s a fool.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
a pass is a pass. a free man a freeman a good juror would not call it another why look juror nulification is obvious from non baised jurors
September 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
ESPN is freaking!!!
They are super nervous right now because of this
Saints 0-3
Steelers 1-2
Patriots 1-2
Soon to be 1-2 Packers when they go down tonight
The Eagles are 2-1 but Vick is horrible and they were lucky to eek out those 2 wins
Broncos 1-2 and Peyton looking very rusty
I’m actually loving this…can’t wait for Skip Bayless’s spin on the morning show!!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Agreed, DIRT-LOT. Nowhere near as big a botch job.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Actualy,the immaculate recpetion was worse because there is no tape showing whether or not it hit the ground! Franco Harris was at the right place at the right time!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I still would like to know when you have seen a similar call to the SNOW-JOB…you have not answered that yet.
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Chiefs playoff game 2 years ago, Bengals last year off the top of my head.
http://prod.www.bills.clubs.nfl.com/media-center/videos/Bengals-saved-by-tuck-rule/55f92f23-06cd-4836-a0e5-7f5964c48ba3
September 25th, 2012 at 6:32 am
RaidingTexas Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Honestly though, why did Jennings even try to catch it? You knock it away in that situation. He’s a fool.
That is what I was saying as well!
September 25th, 2012 at 6:34 am
The NFL needs to get the real refs back, those guys didn’t hate the Raiders or were biased against us, if there was ever a policy on screwing the Raiders it would have come directly from the League.
So get the real ones back and fix this thing, they won’t be perfect but this can’t go on, we may get screwed by the replacements incompetency next.
I think the real refs jus took the easy way out with us, when in doubt it was easier to just flag the Raiders, no one would blink an eye since we were the most undisciplined team in the League, those days appear to be going away now so the refs won’t have that excuse. I hope.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:34 am
After the Sugar Bear Hamilton call, the NFL didn’t let the ref who made the call ref a Patriots game for 12 years, lol.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:35 am
this ref called it write. one handed catches are made all the time. doesn’t matter if the other guy has two hands a foot a toung don’t matter. was a catch by the both… Packers are whinneeeers. they think they deserve it fro their history
September 25th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:32 am
RaidingTexas Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Honestly though, why did Jennings even try to catch it? You knock it away in that situation. He’s a fool.
That is what I was saying as well!
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Just yesterday, after Lions caught that hail-mary, I heard someone saying that teams should quit swatting the ball and just try an catch it.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Bbq Before The Game Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:35 am
this ref called it write. one handed catches are made all the time. doesn’t matter if the other guy has two hands a foot a toung don’t matter. was a catch by the both… Packers are whinneeeers. they think they deserve it fro their history
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Are you blind? You must be smarter than 99% of sports fans, including all the professionals who said it was an INT.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Why don’t they try to swat it towards the nearest OOB area?
The Titans game, the guy knocks it down right to the field of play and the goalline. How stupid is that?
Last night, Jennings should have tried to push it towards the end line.
Shouldn’t be rocket science.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:39 am
I would respond but I can’t see the post lol… maybe if I were standing RIGHT THERE, in person then I could maybe see you. touchdown
September 25th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Heard on Mike and Mike:
Rule 17 of NFL rules states: The commissioner has the sole authority to overturn the call if it deemed an unfair call.
It will never happen, but it should.
September 25th, 2012 at 6:57 am
764.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I still would like to know when you have seen a similar call to the SNOW-JOB…you have not answered that yet.
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Chiefs playoff game 2 years ago, Bengals last year off the top of my head.
http://prod.www.bills.clubs.nfl.com/media-center/videos/Bengals-saved-by-tuck-rule/55f92f23-06cd-4836-a0e5-7f5964c48ba3
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I still disagree, because the NFL had it in for AL. That SNOW-JOB remains one of the most controversial calls ever made…you can try to point to that bogus rule all you want…our game forever changed the way that type of play was looked at…it was our game that made that type of play noticed by the NFL-FANS. Our game was the marker…almost everyone you talk to knows Brady fumbled that ball…and the league mad eup there own interpretation of what happened.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:02 am
773.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Heard on Mike and Mike:
Rule 17 of NFL rules states: The commissioner has the sole authority to overturn the call if it deemed an unfair call.
It will never happen, but it should.
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Goddell is a puppet who has been hired by the owners…he is a coward that will never stand for whats right.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:03 am
our game forever changed the way that type of play was looked at…
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Because the rule was only implemented 2 years before our call, it was the first time it was really called.
The NFL has called it the same way since.
Bury your head in the sand all you want, that is the truth.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am
The Tuck Rule was at least debatable. The Immaculate Reception was a very tough call and they had no replay. Last night was just a terrible call. Biggest screw job ever.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:06 am
776.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:03 am
our game forever changed the way that type of play was looked at…
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Because the rule was only implemented 2 years before our call, it was the first time it was really called.
The NFL has called it the same way since.
Bury your head in the sand all you want, that is the truth.
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I im doing that, then that means you are also if you wont even admit that the NFL had it in for AL…besides Cheatriots owner Craft is an NFL darling…AL became Darth Vader to them…you know that!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:07 am
The only reason this is big news is because it happened to the packers. Any less popular team and its a non issue. In fact, I bet if the roles were reversed by the teams there would be a lot less outcry.
Also I am not all that convinced the call was wrong. Tate had 1 hand behind the ball and it seemed like he had possession as well.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
779.Timmah123 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:07 am
The only reason this is big news is because it happened to the packers. Any less popular team and its a non issue. In fact, I bet if the roles were reversed by the teams there would be a lot less outcry.
Also I am not all that convinced the call was wrong. Tate had 1 hand behind the ball and it seemed like he had possession as well.
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You said it Bro!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I im doing that, then that means you are also if you wont even admit that the NFL had it in for AL
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Maybe I am, but I don’t believe that Rozelle’s disdain for Al seeped into the refs calls 20 years later.
SugarBear Hamilton anyone? That was a HORRIBLE call that went our way.
Home teams get the 50/50 calls, in all of sports, in almost every game.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Collin Cowherd is a Seahawk fan and he called the call “A perfect storm of incompetency.”
September 25th, 2012 at 7:11 am
All Tate do was palm a part of the ball after it was already secured to Jennings chest with both hands. He didn’t have simultaneous possession. No way did Tate have that ball more than Jennings. That was awful and we don’t need to qualify awful officiating with Raider calls to make 2 wrongs a right.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Maybe I am, but I don’t believe that Rozelle’s disdain for Al seeped into the refs calls 20 years later.
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Why do a lot of free agents that gets picked up by Oakland talk about how much more they are getting flagged than with their previous team then?
September 25th, 2012 at 7:13 am
guest123 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:11 am
All Tate do was palm a part of the ball after it was already secured to Jennings chest with both hands. He didn’t have simultaneous possession. No way did Tate have that ball more than Jennings. That was awful and we don’t need to qualify awful officiating with Raider calls to make 2 wrongs a right.
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Watch the replay, the ball hits Jennings and Tates hands at the exact same time.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Timmah123 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Maybe I am, but I don’t believe that Rozelle’s disdain for Al seeped into the refs calls 20 years later.
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Why do a lot of free agents that gets picked up by Oakland talk about how much more they are getting flagged than with their previous team then?
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Did you just make that up?
September 25th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Why do a lot of free agents that gets picked up by Oakland talk about how much more they are getting flagged than with their previous team then?
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Link?
September 25th, 2012 at 7:16 am
the question is which refs are better, and I say train up the new ones
September 25th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Still no recap of the game 2 days ago? LOL! Way to go Jer & Steven!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:17 am
781.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I im doing that, then that means you are also if you wont even admit that the NFL had it in for AL
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Maybe I am, but I don’t believe that Rozelle’s disdain for Al seeped into the refs calls 20 years later.
SugarBear Hamilton anyone? That was a HORRIBLE call that went our way.
Home teams get the 50/50 calls, in all of sports, in almost every game.
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Al was suing the NFL in 1996…and there was ongoing litigation. Do you claim that Paul Tagliabue had more love for Al than Rozelle did???
September 25th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:03 am
our game forever changed the way that type of play was looked at…
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Because the rule was only implemented 2 years before our call, it was the first time it was really called.
The NFL has called it the same way since.
Bury your head in the sand all you want, that is the truth.
The next year, same thing happens in Oakland on Sunday Night, and I thought here we go again…it was called a fumble!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Why do a lot of free agents that gets picked up by Oakland talk about how much more they are getting flagged than with their previous team then?
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Link?
I know Sapp has said it when he came here!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Do you claim that Paul Tagliabue had more love for Al than Rozelle did???
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I make no such claims.
I just don’t believe in UFO’s, Bigfoot, JFK and 9/11 conspriacy theories, and ESPECIALLY some crazy NFL ref bias towards the Raiders.
Never have, never will. That’s a losers mentality, playing the victim card.
Even if it were true, let’s just say, don’t the Raiders and fans kind of fuel it? “Build a bully” and go punch Big Ben in the face is cool right?
September 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I know Sapp has said it when he came here!
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Sapp has no integrity.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Just fire baby , I’ve seen it called a fumble
September 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
We got screwed in the last game on some no calls that would have resulted in yards for us. Had we lost that game people in here would be screaming for the replacement refs’ heads.
Bring back the professionals.
We get screwed either way.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
i’ve seen it called a pass just the once
September 25th, 2012 at 7:22 am
That Sugar Bear Hamilton play at least had some question to it. It looked like his hands hit Stabler in the helmet. It was closer than everyone made it to be. Yes, it went our way, and even the holy roller, but last night was a big WOW! It may have hit Jennings and Tate’s hand at the same time but it was clear that Jennings got possesion of it, making it not simultaneous! But it is what it is…and Goodell is probably laughing right now because he doesn’t care!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I know Sapp has said it when he came here!
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Sapp has no integrity.
LOL, yes, but he has said that some of the stuff he used to get away with he can no longer because he now wears teh Silver and Black!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I im doing that, then that means you are also if you wont even admit that the NFL had it in for AL
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Maybe I am, but I don’t believe that Rozelle’s disdain for Al seeped into the refs calls 20 years later.
SugarBear Hamilton anyone? That was a HORRIBLE call that went our way.
Home teams get the 50/50 calls, in all of sports, in almost every game.
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-Immaculate Deception
-Rob Lytle- (which was blatant)
-Tuck Rule travesty
Also the Sugar Bear Hamilton play was a BLOW TO THE HEAD…might not have been that late but would have been called 100x out of 100 today…well, maybe not by replacement refs.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Just fire baby , I’ve seen it called a fumble
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Well I am sure it has, the refs don’t get every call right. It is not like an OOB play or something with defined lines, it is a completely judgement call with tons of gray area. Just like PI, which can either way almost all the time.
I posted a video link of almost the exact same play called an incomplete pass from last year.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
LOL, yes, but he has said that some of the stuff he used to get away with he can no longer because he now wears teh Silver and Black!
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Or maybe it was because the team sucked.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
The Holy Roller was the right call, there was no rule in place before that.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
The Holy Roller was the right call, there was no rule in place before that.
That is true…not sure why I used that example!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
LOL, yes, but he has said that some of the stuff he used to get away with he can no longer because he now wears teh Silver and Black!
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Or maybe it was because the team sucked.
LOL, maybe…
September 25th, 2012 at 7:27 am
It was a perfect ending to a very bad weekend for the refs! How the hell do you give a coach 2 challenges with no time outs??? Of course that didn’t change the outcome of the game, but the integrity is pretty much gone!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:22 am
That Sugar Bear Hamilton play at least had some question to it. It looked like his hands hit Stabler in the helmet. It was closer than everyone made it to be. Yes, it went our way, and even the holy roller, but last night was a big WOW! It may have hit Jennings and Tate’s hand at the same time but it was clear that Jennings got possesion of it, making it not simultaneous! But it is what it is…and Goodell is probably laughing right now because he doesn’t care!
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Plus the Hamilton play was on 3rd down…there’s always a chance Stabler converts on 4th…I don’t know. The video of Hamilton is grainy…but what u see is his hand lopping Stabler in the head and all accounts back that up.
We were fortunate to win tho. NE was very good that yr. Our one loss was 48-17 at NE that yr.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Didn’t Lamarr Houston draw more holding calls than any other player in the NFL last year?
I remember reading that link this offseason.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Even if it were true, let’s just say, don’t the Raiders and fans kind of fuel it? “Build a bully” and go punch Big Ben in the face is cool right?
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I dont think that is kool, however I also do not think it was kool, that just because our deceased owner had an unorthodox way of doing things differently (not-robotic) way of the other owners…that the Raiders overall have not been dealt with like the Mara’s Craft’s, Hunts, Bowlens, Bidwells of the league.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
I love hearing everyone else b:tch about the refs now. Welcome to our world.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
that the Raiders overall have not been dealt with like the Mara’s Craft’s, Hunts, Bowlens, Bidwells of the league.
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I don’t want to speak for Al (RIP) but he seemed to like it that way.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
“Madden wants to know if it’s real…they say yes…and get your big butt out of here…he does.”
September 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Plus the Hamilton play was on 3rd down…there’s always a chance Stabler converts on 4th…I don’t know. The video of Hamilton is grainy…but what u see is his hand lopping Stabler in the head and all accounts back that up.
We were fortunate to win tho. NE was very good that yr. Our one loss was 48-17 at NE that yr.
You are correct sir!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:33 am
but to turn over the call after looking at it for a long time in a game like that. For the first time in history to call a pass what is not. horrendous. j mac quoted rusmfeld (fortunatly not a ref or replacement ref) as saying that the raiders were just evil. The leage called the raiders the mascott of the nfl like mickey mouse but maybe coyote would be better. they see the big mean raiders and they already know that they break the rules. I don’t think that the one constan that mattered was an ancient old davis and that HE could shape the penalties through good and bad coaches who were not penalized in other places. It was THE REFS. AND that culture just got flushed and now we’re not getting phone pi calls. Raider fans of all SHOULD NOT COMPLAIN.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Dam, if you all have twitter accounts, it is cluttered wih all of this mess! People talking about the players should boycott…haha, crazy talk right there!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Sure the regular refs get calls wrong but nowhere near as bad as what we’ve seen so far after 3 weeks. They are screwing up the time on the clock, yards and ball placement, the challenges, helmet to helmet obvious hits, (Myers hit was as clear as day), its just brutal how bad they are. Plus it takes them 10 minutes sometimes for a challenge. I’m sure some of these guys are dropping cash on the games that’s how bad it is.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:35 am
811.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
that the Raiders overall have not been dealt with like the Mara’s Craft’s, Hunts, Bowlens, Bidwells of the league.
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I don’t want to speak for Al (RIP) but he seemed to like it that way.
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Then just try to remember one thing, the NFL didn’t like it.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Not sure why the challenges are taking longer, the replay officials are the same as before.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Sure the regular refs get calls wrong but nowhere near as bad as what we’ve seen so far after 3 weeks. They are screwing up the time on the clock, yards and ball placement, the challenges, helmet to helmet obvious hits, (Myers hit was as clear as day), its just brutal how bad they are. Plus it takes them 10 minutes sometimes for a challenge. I’m sure some of these guys are dropping cash on the games that’s how bad it is.
After the failed onside kick attempt on Sunday, the refs stopped play for like 10 minutes to consult about something. Restarted play with no explanation at all…yup! Welcome to 2012!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Seems like the Players Union needs to ome out and support the Original Refs…It’s in their best interest to get them back on the field before someone gets really hurt…
Still feeling good on Tuesday.
Raider On!
“Bring the Wood!”
September 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Funny thing…Goodell punished the Saints with the Bounty and rightfully so, but if player safety is his major concern, these replacements are gonna get these guys killed…
September 25th, 2012 at 7:42 am
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/09/25/refo-steelers-raiders-week-3/
September 25th, 2012 at 7:43 am
When the real refs get back, it’s going to be a shock to some of the players who are cheating on the fake refs getting away with chop blocks, illegal picks, late hits, holding up and down the field. The field will be littered yellow for a few weeks till the players reaclimate to the game being called the right way.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Anyways, guys…we probably have gotten away with some crap thanks to the replacements…right now it is what it is! I was waiting for football since the end of the SuperBowl. I guess replacements are better than no football, but how much longer til we actually see boycotts and other stuff from fans? Probably not, but in this day and age, you never know!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Love the new refs.. They indiscriminately suck…. its not ALL against us.. nobody complained when rediculous calls whent against us week after week for mg entire life.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Snoop dad is pretty funny.
He just said Tebow will play CB in revis’s place
September 25th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Why dont the refs just come to my house and (BLEEP) me up the (BLEEP)? Trick question. These f*ck faces couldn’t get that right either.
—Demetre, Oak Creek, WI
September 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Hawaiian Raider,
I hear what you are saying, and I’m no Packer fan. It is what it is kind of like looking the other way.
Now imagine that was the Raiders out there jobbed on the last play and the opposing coach was pumping his fist in victory after the S&B poured out their hearts for 60 minutes. Now imagine you are in the stands to watch that happen. Is that kind of football better than no football?
September 25th, 2012 at 7:49 am
– In addition to Huff’s clueless coverage, he missed three tackles.
– The Raiders allowed just six total pressures on Palmer all day, and two of those were surrendered by RB Darren McFadden.
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Not sure why people thought Huff played well, he looked awful to me, although he does earn some credit for me for sacking up and playing a position he has no reason to be playing.
He is not a CB, never really was and never will be.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Larry Fitzgerald, a receiver, said that at no point did Tate have possession of the ball.
September 25th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Thanks for the link YA!!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:52 am
I’m with u van still feeling good maybe now the crouch faces att the NFL channel will talk about our game and pick and discuss instead of just bypassing us like we have no shot at beating anybody haha makes me feel good we won the game nobody thought we would win
September 25th, 2012 at 7:55 am
guest123 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Hawaiian Raider,
I hear what you are saying, and I’m no Packer fan. It is what it is kind of like looking the other way.
Now imagine that was the Raiders out there jobbed on the last play and the opposing coach was pumping his fist in victory after the S&B poured out their hearts for 60 minutes. Now imagine you are in the stands to watch that happen. Is that kind of football better than no football?
Got your point! But do you think the fans will start boycotting? That will probably be a first!
September 25th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Im just glad the other 31 teams FINALLY have go eat some ref cock… enjoy fücktards!!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Nobody is going to boycott. If anything, the replacement refs will improve ratings because everyone wants to watch the drama.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Got your point! But do you think the fans will start boycotting? That will probably be a first!
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Nope. I think football is an addiction. Why do the owners charge full price for preseason games that don’t matter to anyone? Why don’t they give the crowd a price break for the 4th preseason game where nobody but scrubs are playing against future insurance salesmen? Why do they charge $40K PSL’s for the priviledge of purchasing season tix? Do the owners look like they have any shame or worry about their revenues? Nope. Because we the fans will continue to buy whatever product they are shilling at us. And we lap it up every time with very short memories.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Not sure why people thought Huff played well, he looked awful to me, although he does earn some credit for me for sacking up and playing a position he has no reason to be playing.
He is not a CB, never really was and never will be.
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This sounds like a common argument that can also be applied to the replacement refs. Sympathy for the devil?
September 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Zebs made a great call… Great catch by tate.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Ive heard vets talk about how different the “real” refs fùck the raiders many times.. look up jerry rices quotes.. i ♥ the shìtty but fair new refs!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
With the traditionals we lead the league and break records in penalties no matter what regime is in Oakland, or players.
Now with the replacements we are not penalized half as much.
What is wrong with this picture.
I am not buying DA and the org have cleaned up the penalties.
What is really at play here?
September 25th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Bad calls and delays for everyone!!!! Its not just us yay!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:12 am
The nob doesnt own the new refs yet.. hooray!!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Lol thec, that’s funny!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
The mob..ha
September 25th, 2012 at 8:14 am
2 raiders got concussions on illegal hits. No penalties. Ya the new refs rock!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Ref dìck for everyone!!!!! We’re not the meg of the league anymore
September 25th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Marks hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
The mob..ha
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The comment is funny however, any credence to it????
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/25/seattle-green-bay-call-caused-huge-swing-in-vegas/
September 25th, 2012 at 8:18 am
The old refs would have givin us 13 penalties last week..
September 25th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Will be back ltr… 1N
September 25th, 2012 at 8:23 am
The Raiders have less penalties because Dennis Allen is coach and Al Davis is dead.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:24 am
847. Like i said. Ask rice or any old vet that came to us late in their career about the refs bias against the raiders.. they normally say its crazy how unfair they are. Why? Hmmm … do you think the nfl is the one league the mob cant touch?
September 25th, 2012 at 8:25 am
I can not believe how the media has turned into big giant crybabies!
Trent Dilfer is horrible.
Answer this for me… WHO WILL THEY BLAME WHEN “REAL” REFS COME BACK AND BLOW CALLS?
The media is mad because the replacement refs aren’t protecting their favorite teams.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I ♡ the new refs
September 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
THE BROKEN RAIDER CURSE HAS LANDED ON THE GB PACKERS!! Good luck with that!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:29 am
How’s about some game balls to go out for the win on Sunday:
lst to Dennis Allen for his lst career NFL victory. Called a good game, did not let field position dictate the loss like last week, gambled on an onside kick when his defense did not seem like they could stop it, and somehow kept it close.
Carson Palmer: unbelievable is all you can say about his second half.
Brandon Myers: dude is getting good.
Oline: Did the job
Phillip Wheeler: this guy is getting very goood!
Richard Seymour: a sack, caused a holding penalty and almost recovered the fumble that Wheeler got all on the last two Shi**burgh possessions. But you guys are right, he’s washed up.
Janikowsky: Nails.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Best football tv in yrs.. let em play. let em hit.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Didin i say we would beat the Steelers and know one would talk about it! 2hrs espn! Nothing! Since we won i havent seen any video other than Janos winning FG! I wanna see the McFadden run!!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Thanks for the link YA!!
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No problem!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I thought wheeler kinda struggled with miller
September 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I need some video without Adobe flash! Time to upgrade my Blackberry i guess!!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
My point is this… replacement refs or “real” refs…
STOP USING THEM AS AN EXCUSE!
I’ve always heard… “Good teams overcome bad calls” “Don’t let the game come down to a ref’s call, handle your business and put game out of reach.”
Rogers crying about the refs just pisses me off. The Packers sucked all night. Don’t blame the refs for giving up 7 sacks in the 1st half.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Wish that link had some video YA?? U got something else??
September 25th, 2012 at 8:39 am
If we would of lost! Eveyone would show how great the Steelers are! I wanna see DMC run right down Steelers throat!!
September 25th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Back-N-Black Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
My point is this… replacement refs or “real” refs…
STOP USING THEM AS AN EXCUSE!
I’ve always heard… “Good teams overcome bad calls” “Don’t let the game come down to a ref’s call, handle your business and put game out of reach.”
Rogers crying about the refs just pisses me off. The Packers sucked all night. Don’t blame the refs for giving up 7 sacks in the 1st half.
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Nice post. Isn’t it funny how all the guys that promoted that stance are now whining about the refs?
September 25th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I ♡ the new refs
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Lol. Nice.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I’ve always heard… “Good teams overcome bad calls” “Don’t let the game come down to a ref’s call, handle your business and put game out of reach.”
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That’s such bull sh*t. Great teams, like the 72′ Raiders, get screwed by bad calls just as much as bad teams.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Marks hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I thought wheeler kinda struggled with miller
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Both he and Branch did, agreed.
Not that Miller isn’t good, but it was concerning that the Raiders couldn’t even disrupt him in the red zone. Seems like there isn’t a Raider defender right now who can consistently shut down TEs.
It’s definitely the flaw in Wheeler’s game (although he was actually one of the top-ranked LBs in coverage overall last season), but he does almost everything else well. Fun player to watch.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:52 am
It doesn’t matter that green bay sucked in the first half. That last play was an interception, period. I put money on Seattle and am happy I won but they should have lost. The reason it’s such a big deal today is that green bay didn’t have a chance to get the ball back. The refs gave the game to Seattle. On a horrible call, not even debatable.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Not sure why people thought Huff played well, he looked awful to me
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Really???
Outside of the quick throws outside because he was playing off, what else did you see that was “awful”?
I missed the WRs having a big day.
TE is who killed us most of the day.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
856.Marks hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Best football tv in yrs.. let em play. let em hit.
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Im with you on that one.
Listening to the radio all morning makes me laugh. It was real refs that called the “Tuck Rule”.
Calls have been bad but the football has been hard hitting and mean. I like it.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:55 am
RaiderDanny Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Wish that link had some video YA?? U got something else??
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PFF doesn’t do video as far as I know, just stats-based analysis. Good read, though.
I’m actually still looking for solid in-depth video analysis for this game, but it seems like all anyone wants to show are the “highlights”, which basically include the Wallace TD and the winning FG.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:58 am
It seems like the Raiders game plan against Steelers was to give up the underneath stuff so they wouldn’t get burned down field. It was a gamble and it worked out because of the 2 Steeler turn overs. I don’t think that is going to work against Manning. Denver can run the ball better, even with the injuries. The CBs are gonna have to be much better against Broncos.
September 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am
868.Carl Weathers Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:52 am
It doesn’t matter that green bay sucked in the first half. That last play was an interception, period. I put money on Seattle and am happy I won but they should have lost. The reason it’s such a big deal today is that green bay didn’t have a chance to get the ball back. The refs gave the game to Seattle. On a horrible call, not even debatable.
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Tuck Rule!!
Real refs make bad calls as well.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Silver wrote an article this morning saying that he ate dinner with lynch after the game. The replayed showed atthe restutaunt and Lynchs jaw dropped. Someone at the table said ” we didn’t win that game” complete silence.
Classic.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Mannings been getting off to slow starts so far…. The Raider offense has to take advantage score early and often and keep it up… … And the defense needs to pressure Manning allday… Mannings been making the games close in the 4th… Can’t let him get comfortable…… He can still dink and dunk with the best of them…and he can bring his team back…. Pressure… Pressure…
Thought it was a good sign that the Raider D stiffened up in the 4th qtr Sunday … Problably gonna need to do it this Sunday as well….
Stomp the Donks…..
September 25th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Denver can run the ball better, even with the injuries.
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Mcgahee might not even be active. They go to a full on committee of suck RB’s Moreno, Ball, and Hillman. Dungver won’t get far in the run game with those duds.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:05 am
I am glad to see the rest of the nfl whining about the bad calls we have got for years,the tuck rule was 20 times worse than that.It was good to see new england get a tough call too.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:08 am
nwr8r Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:53 am
bcz24 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
734.nwr8r Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Note to all the teams and fans around the league who are saying they lost because of the officials.
According to what everyone has told the Raiders and their fans for the last 15+ years there are plenty of oppurtunities during the game to make plays. A couple of bad calls did not lose you the game.
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You arent watching football then bro. The refs HAVE straight stolen games from teams in the last 2 weeks. The titans were given 12 extra yards on a penalty in OT on the game winning FG drive, the 49ers were given TWO challenges even though they had no time outs, there were probably 50 blown PI calls this weekend alone (they either called it when it didnt happen, or didnt call it when it did), not flagging defenders for head shots. These guys are just simply not qualified, and they are playing too big a part in the games.
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Was not saying I agreed with the scabs. Way to many incorrect calls and non calls. I’ve been watching plenty of games. Just saying the same thing to all those whinning about losing due to a couple of calls as they’ve said to us for years. Trust me, I’ve seen the Raiders get screwed by officials before and have been told that’s not why we lost, there are plenty of other chances to during the course of a game to win. It used to drive me insane.
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Welcome to the Raiders side of the NFL….hahahahahaha
All of the darlings of the NFL having issues and don’t like it much. No sympathy here!!
September 25th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Is JFB here? So can we call all these guys whining about the refs foil hatters?
September 25th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Sign a pass rusher!
What’s wrong with A Carter? Is he still recovering from his leg injury?
September 25th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I hope Dennis Allen has taken note of the late game non officiating and lets the team know that they can get away with a lot on a final drive. Hold, grab, push, pull whatever you need to do to make a play or prevent one.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I think that ref who signaled TD was shady. He must have had ulterior motives. It is the only explanation.
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Who Cares?
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I the grand scheme of things nobody. But in another world billions of dollars were lost bty the casinos and bookmakers on that shvtty call
September 25th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Raider O Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Sign a pass rusher!
What’s wrong with A Carter? Is he still recovering from his leg injury?
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Seems as though that’s the case, the Cardinals let him leave without a contract too.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I hope Dennis Allen has taken note of the late game non officiating and lets the team know that they can get away with a lot on a final drive. Hold, grab, push, pull whatever you need to do to make a play or prevent one.
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Yeah, but honestly, they’re letting a lot of this go in general.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:54 am
A similar defensive gameplan to the one that didn’t work against a very mobile Ben Rothelisberger might have more success against a statuesque Peyton Manning.
September 25th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Im just glad the other 31 teams FINALLY have go eat some ref cock… enjoy fücktards!!
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eloquently said.
but i think the mob might be all over these guys. the replacements are easy marks. what would they have to lose by taking 50k to throw a game to one side? i bet several of them are on the take. they’re going for the short money while they have the chance.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Was not saying I agreed with the scabs. Way to many incorrect calls and non calls. I’ve been watching plenty of games. Just saying the same thing to all those whinning about losing due to a couple of calls as they’ve said to us for years. Trust me, I’ve seen the Raiders get screwed by officials before and have been told that’s not why we lost, there are plenty of other chances to during the course of a game to win. It used to drive me insane.
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Welcome to the Raiders side of the NFL….hahahahahaha
All of the darlings of the NFL having issues and don’t like it much. No sympathy here!!
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Exactly, not saying there is a inherent bias against the Raiders. But why are there always more flags in a Raider game; not just against the Raiders but the other team as well.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Speaking of Pass Rushers, wouldn’t it have been nice if the Raiders kept Chris Clemons? (Seattle)
September 25th, 2012 at 10:07 am
887.DutchRaider77 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Was not saying I agreed with the scabs. Way to many incorrect calls and non calls. I’ve been watching plenty of games. Just saying the same thing to all those whinning about losing due to a couple of calls as they’ve said to us for years. Trust me, I’ve seen the Raiders get screwed by officials before and have been told that’s not why we lost, there are plenty of other chances to during the course of a game to win. It used to drive me insane.
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Welcome to the Raiders side of the NFL….hahahahahaha
All of the darlings of the NFL having issues and don’t like it much. No sympathy here!!
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Exactly, not saying there is a inherent bias against the Raiders. But why are there always more flags in a Raider game; not just against the Raiders but the other team as well.
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I called into a sports show on Chicago radio last year before the Bears game with us and they took my call cuz I said I was a Raider fan and I said it is almost a statistical impossibility for the Raiders to be one of, if not THE MOST penalized teams in the league year after year with different coaches, enitirely different rosters etc. etc.
One of the hosts said “well he’s a Raider fan so he’s gonna think there’s a conspiracy, and the other host said “well hold on..you have to admit that is pretty strange…”
September 25th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Speaking of Pass Rushers, wouldn’t it have been nice if the Raiders kept Chris Clemons? (Seattle)
YES!
September 25th, 2012 at 10:11 am
YoungAmerican Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:55 am
RaiderDanny Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Wish that link had some video YA?? U got something else??
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PFF doesn’t do video as far as I know, just stats-based analysis. Good read, though.
I’m actually still looking for solid in-depth video analysis for this game, but it seems like all anyone wants to show are the “highlights”, which basically include the Wallace TD and the winning FG.
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NFL.com video of all our scores including DMacs run
September 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Everyone wants the regular refs back. The same ones that get coin flips wrong, have blown obvious touchdown calls among other poor calls (tuck?). Player safety and control of the game is an issue with the scabs. Bad calls happen no matter who’s out there. Most of the media and players/coaches are scrutinizing the replacements so much it has almost taken on an angry mob mentality, it keeps fueling itself.
I just wonder if the regular refs will be watched as closely or spoken about as much and poorly as these guys are.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:23 am
879.The Big Banana Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Is JFB here? So can we call all these guys whining about the refs foil hatters?
Firebaby misfires now and then and he is wrong about the vendetta or curse or conspiracy or whatever you want to call it where the Raiders get screwed all the time. And he is wrong about UFO’s as well
September 25th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Ive positively identified unidentified flying objects.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I just wonder if the regular refs will be watched as closely or spoken about as much and poorly as these guys are.//////Hope not. Hope they don’t come back, period.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:34 am
jesusraiderjim Says: But in another world billions of dollars were lost bty the casinos and bookmakers on that shvtty call//////////////Billions might be overstating it, and it wasn’t lost, just went someplace else.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Fùck the “real” refs!
September 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
No sympathy from this raider fan. Glad to see one of the NFL’s darlings feel what we have felt numerous times in the past.
The Oak vs Sea game also gets overlooked as one of the most BS calls of all time. Do you guys remember that one?
Woodson stripped Shaun Alexander and Dorsett recovered the ball and slid on the wet field into the endzone…SAFETY! I remember throwing my glass so hard it shattered into a thousand pieces. I was so pissed off.
These other teams have dealt with it for three weeks and cant stand it.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Fill in the blank.
Manning’s Broncos lost to the Falcons by 6.
Manning’s Broncos lost to the Texans by 6.
Manning’s Broncos will lose to the Raiders by ___?
September 25th, 2012 at 10:40 am
pressure Manning allday
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with who? our guys get what 1 sack /game? if we safety blitz that leaves michael huff pat lee or joselio hanson 1 on 1..
September 25th, 2012 at 10:40 am
XHOWIE75x Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
No sympathy from this raider fan. Glad to see one of the NFL’s darlings feel what we have felt numerous times in the past.
The Oak vs Sea game also gets overlooked as one of the most BS calls of all time. Do you guys remember that one?
Woodson stripped Shaun Alexander and Dorsett recovered the ball and slid on the wet field into the endzone…SAFETY! I remember throwing my glass so hard it shattered into a thousand pieces. I was so pissed off.
These other teams have dealt with it for three weeks and cant stand it.
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Nice recall. Forgot all about that. Total BS
September 25th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Thanks fellas!! Yea NFL.coM dont do anything on this blackberry, time to upgrade i guess! Be home tomorrow! Recorded at the house! Recording replay tonite! Just in case!
September 25th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I missed the WRs having a big day
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i thought we were lucky ben didn’t pick on him more, from what i saw he couldn’t keep up with anyone
September 25th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
I’m still rolling w/ the replacement refs for our games.
I don’t feel for the cheese heads! FK them!
They got fked in a regular season game. We got robbed in a playoff game.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Whats up DMAC?
How did your son enjoy the game?
September 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Pervis. Call me a 49er fan?! Guess he aint read my posts before?? Kind weired! Dont know what he was thinking?
September 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
is our d really that bad?
September 25th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Ref cock for everyone!!
September 25th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Why do some of you call the replacement officials scabs?
They weren’t put into the position they are in.
Blame your “god” Goodell and your almighty NFL and they’re greed.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Inonewordraider Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I missed the WRs having a big day
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i thought we were lucky ben didn’t pick on him more, from what i saw he couldn’t keep up with anyone
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Ben had a field day. Brown and Wallace combining for over 200 yards receiving and 2 TDs. Folks tend to look through rose colored glasses after a victory.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Marks hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Fùck the “real” refs!
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Agreed. The “real refs” are a joke also. They just know the rule book a bit better than the replacement refs.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:54 am
900.inonewordraider Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:40 am
pressure Manning allday
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with who? our guys get what 1 sack /game? if we safety blitz that leaves michael huff pat lee or joselio hanson 1 on 1..
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Well it will be interesting to see if McGahee will play or not. If he does, they need to paint a mental target on that man’s ribs. No McGahee, that could mean a 3 man rush and bring pressure from different places. Lots of Nickel and dime packages?
Think of the Monday night game against Atlanta…
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
If u ever been to an autograph signing. And seen a whiteboy with autographs tattoo’d on his are around the Raider Emblem? THATS ME! RAAAAAIIIDERS!!!
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
With all the “don’t touch the QB” rules in place, Palmer can easily QB at a decent level for another 4 years.
I think 1st round next year has changed from QB to pass-rushing OLB/DE.
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Yep!
OLB/DE Jarvis Jones baby!
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
We couldnt cover anybody… we won cause we got 2 takaways.. first time all yr.. first win all yr..
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I know we won but ….
HUFF was the 7th pick of the draft with direct CB experience while at Texas and after many years of collecting paychecks still looks this bad??? I say give a young hungry CB a chance instead of HUFF. Move HUFF back to safety where he’s barely adequate and dump him after this year for sure. God knows why AD re-signed him. Nobody else wanted him after he hit the market and yet AD offered him a big scholarship.
Pro Football Focus dropped the hammer in their evaluation of Huff:
Huff had “spectacularly bad results. Huff displayed the kind of feel for coverage on the perimeter that Casey Hampton has for low-calorie health foods, and beat himself far more than the Steelers’ receivers could ever manage. On 3rd-and-2 he took the inspired option of playing 12 yards off the line of scrimmage, which resulted in a quick bubble screen that picked up 7 yards and a first down. What exactly did he think would happen?
“On a slant not long after, he released the WR to the free safety after about three yards, and expected safety Matt Giordano to make up at least 10 yards to get anywhere near the play.” Huff also missed three tackles.
Huff was pressed into duty at corner because of injuries to starters Ron Bartell and Shawntae Spencer and the team’s discovery in the Miami game that 5-foot-9 Joselio Hanson is limited to only playing in the slot in nickel situations.
Look for newcomer Brandian Ross, picked up off the Packers’ practice squad last week, to get more snaps and possibly even start at cornrback this Sunday at Denver.
As bad as PFF thinks Huff was against the Steelers, it didn’t even give him the worst grade at – 3.1. That went to defensive tackle Tommy Kelly at -4.3. Other negative standouts were defensive end Dave Tollefson (-3.0), Giordano (-2.5) and Hanson (-2.3).
September 25th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Raiders moved up all the way to #20 in the PFT power rankings.
September 25th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Arm^
September 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
If kelly cant jump the snap he’s worthless.. and da says no more jumping..
September 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Back-n-Black Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:25 am
I can not believe how the media has turned into big giant crybabies!
Trent Dilfer is horrible.
Answer this for me… WHO WILL THEY BLAME WHEN “REAL” REFS COME BACK AND BLOW CALLS?
The media is mad because the replacement refs aren’t protecting their favorite teams.
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Thats what I have been saying….the media and game announcers have been more critical of these replacement refs in 3 games then they are during a full season with the great “real refs”?
When the real refs screwed up, they would all swallow their tongues.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Marks hair Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
We couldnt cover anybody… we won cause we got 2 takaways.. first time all yr.. first win all yr..
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Exactly and because Palmer took over play calling duties on offense in the 2nd half also.
Palmer reminded me of Gannon and Peyton out there in the 2nd half.
Let’s hope CP doesn’t let up and continues to run the no huddle, read defenses and call audibles as much as possible.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Chargers and Rams going to L.A. probably.
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Yep. It will be two out of the three teams the Chargers, Rams or Jags that wind up in L.A.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
The replacement ref issue is kinda funny.
The rest of the league is now knowing what we have been dealing with the last couple decades.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:08 am
At 909. Dictionary’s definition.
3 a : a contemptible person b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
September 25th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DKnight007 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Chargers and Rams going to L.A. probably.
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Yep. It will be two out of the three teams the Chargers, Rams or Jags that wind up in L.A.
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Rams are more likely than the Chargers until the AEG/Farmer’s Field mess gets sorted out (AEG’s being sold, and some environmental groups are trying to block Farmer’s Field in court). Roski’s deal is still on the table, but if the Chargers wanted it, they would have taken it last February. Still think WE might end up in Industry…
September 25th, 2012 at 11:11 am
DKnight007 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
With all the “don’t touch the QB” rules in place, Palmer can easily QB at a decent level for another 4 years.
I think 1st round next year has changed from QB to pass-rushing OLB/DE.
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Yep!
OLB/DE Jarvis Jones baby!
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Another great potential pick for Raiders would be the beast NT/DT Lotulelei from Utah. Reminds some of Haloti Ngata.
McK and Allen will not pay Kelly 6.5 million next season is gone and Seymour will probably retire.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DKnight007 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:11 am
DKnight007 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
alex7 Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
With all the “don’t touch the QB” rules in place, Palmer can easily QB at a decent level for another 4 years.
I think 1st round next year has changed from QB to pass-rushing OLB/DE.
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Yep!
OLB/DE Jarvis Jones baby!
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Another great potential pick for Raiders would be the beast NT/DT Lotulelei from Utah. Reminds some of Haloti Ngata.
McK and Allen will not pay Kelly 6.5 million next season is gone and Seymour will probably retire.
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Lotulelei could be a beast. ITA that Seymour will be gone, and if Kelly returns it’ll be for a lot less money as a third-down passrushing DT.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
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He is appealing, so he might play this Sunday.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:16 am
PFT ranks us #20 for this week:
20. Raiders: Not bad for a team that some thought would go winless after Week Two.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
[...] rest of the article can be found here: Inside the Oakland Raiders Tweet This PostRelated Posts:Allen focuses on little things; Wisniewski’s injury [...]
September 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DKnight007 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Chargers and Rams going to L.A. probably.
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Yep. It will be two out of the three teams the Chargers, Rams or Jags that wind up in L.A.
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Rams are more likely than the Chargers until the AEG/Farmer’s Field mess gets sorted out (AEG’s being sold, and some environmental groups are trying to block Farmer’s Field in court). Roski’s deal is still on the table, but if the Chargers wanted it, they would have taken it last February. Still think WE might end up in Industry…
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The Spanos would prefer to stay in SD, but that city is BROKE as a joke after the crap hit the fan in 2007/2008 when former Pads owner Moores and the former Mayor ripped the city off with Petco Park being built and the mayor having his side deals with developers build big sky rise studios and condos downtown and trying to sell them them for 800k or more.
Spanos will try and wait it out for a year or two and see what SD and the NFL can come up with if anything. Otherwise Spanos will go to LA. He wants money afterall.
Heck, the Chargers are being blacked out down there, they can even sell out a game versus a good team like the Falcons. They didn’t sell out the Tenn game either.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
ESPN were crying like babies over the call last night. If the replacement Refs made a call like that against the Raiders….they would care less. ESPN are really angry because the replacement refs are not showing favoritism towards their precious Patriots and Packers. They cared less when the replacement refs. didn’t make a call against Mundy for the helmet to helmet contact on DHB which could’ve killed him….or that dirty hit on a defenseless Sean Lee in the Cowboys game. ESPN cared less when the Regular Refs robbed the Raiders of a possible SB game because of the stupid tuck rule. Now they want to cry like babies because the Refs are not showing Bellicheat and the Packers favoritism. Outrageous! I don’t want the Reg. Refs coming back because they favored the stupid Patriots and Packers anyway. However, the replacement Refs. must improve.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
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September 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Also, just in time to drive MistaBrown crazy, our President (for the next 4+ years, probably) has weighed in on the ref thing:
http://tinyurl.com/chamrlo
September 25th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Goldie7 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
ESPN were crying like babies over the call last night. If the replacement Refs made a call like that against the Raiders….they would care less. ESPN are really angry because the replacement refs are not showing favoritism towards their precious Patriots and Packers. They cared less when the replacement refs. didn’t make a call against Mundy for the helmet to helmet contact on DHB which could’ve killed him….or that dirty hit on a defenseless Sean Lee in the Cowboys game. ESPN cared less when the Regular Refs robbed the Raiders of a possible SB game because of the stupid tuck rule. Now they want to cry like babies because the Refs are not showing Bellicheat and the Packers favoritism. Outrageous! I don’t want the Reg. Refs coming back because they favored the stupid Patriots and Packers anyway. However, the replacement Refs. must improve.
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Agreed.
Im actually loving all the heat Goodell is taking. Fvck that guy.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I’ve always heard… “Good teams overcome bad calls” “Don’t let the game come down to a ref’s call, handle your business and put game out of reach.”
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That’s such bull sh*t.
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No it isn’t. Green Bay scored what, 6 points the first 55 minutes of the game? Two FG’s? And Rogers was crying? Why don’t you put up some points Rogers and not whine?
September 25th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Star Lotulelei is a beast and would be an amazing pick up. He gets doubled team 65% of the time and still is the most effective player on a very stong Utah Defense.
Jarvis Jones is also beastly and has alot of room to grow. He’s compared to Von Miller. I still want to see more tape on him and see how he does against some better O-Lines.
Manti Teo is easily the best MLB in the game and plays with fire and intensity. Also he’s a field general and if he we turn up with a pick from 10-16 then we should defintley take him.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Goldie7 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
ESPN were crying like babies over the call last night. If the replacement Refs made a call like that against the Raiders….they would care less. ESPN are really angry because the replacement refs are not showing favoritism towards their precious Patriots and Packers. They cared less when the replacement refs. didn’t make a call against Mundy for the helmet to helmet contact on DHB which could’ve killed him….or that dirty hit on a defenseless Sean Lee in the Cowboys game. ESPN cared less when the Regular Refs robbed the Raiders of a possible SB game because of the stupid tuck rule. Now they want to cry like babies because the Refs are not showing Bellicheat and the Packers favoritism. Outrageous! I don’t want the Reg. Refs coming back because they favored the stupid Patriots and Packers anyway. However, the replacement Refs. must improve.
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Yep!
September 25th, 2012 at 11:32 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Star Lotulelei is a beast and would be an amazing pick up. He gets doubled team 65% of the time and still is the most effective player on a very stong Utah Defense.
Jarvis Jones is also beastly and has alot of room to grow. He’s compared to Von Miller. I still want to see more tape on him and see how he does against some better O-Lines.
Manti Teo is easily the best MLB in the game and plays with fire and intensity. Also he’s a field general and if he we turn up with a pick from 10-16 then we should defintley take him.
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3 solid prospects for the Raiders to choose from is they wind up with a top 8 pick in the draft.
Oh oh…wait a second, we have the weirdos in here who can’t stand talking draft this early in the season.
Gotta watch out, before they start to cry. LOL
September 25th, 2012 at 11:36 am
i like the replacement refs so far….
September 26th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Huff played like crap, he was playing way off and toke bad angles on many tackles, why would he come up and act like he was going to press the WR only to back up and just get burned. I only saw one great play we he Totaly pressed the WR knocked him off his route and stayed close until the safety took over, Ben had to throw the ball way because he was locked onto that WR. If huff can play like that on most plays he may be a decent cb.