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Allen, Raiders not too absorbed in victory

By Steve Corkran
Monday, September 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen turned 40 and notched his first victory as an NFL head coach over the weekend. Yeah, so, Allen seemed to say Monday. That’s nice, but there isn’t any time to celebrate much in the NFL, especially when Peyton Manning is your next opponent.
So it is that Allen conducted his weekly news conference, then headed off to begin breaking down videotape of Manning and the Denver Broncos, less than 24 hours after the Raiders beat the Pittsburgh Steelers 34-31 at the Oakland Coliseum.
Allen said he celebrated the victory with some friends Sunday night. During the week, he’s all business, searching for a way to keep his players on task and underscoring the importance of the upcoming game.
Allen drove home the point last week by handing out wooden bats to everyone on the roster.
Bats? Yes, bats. Let’s go to outside linebacker Philip Wheeler for an explanation.
“The whole team got the bats,” Wheeler said. “That was the theme, man. Coach D.A. was telling us, ‘Man, it’s going to be one of those fights you got to swing our bats for 60 minutes, and that’s what we did. We had to bring the wood, and they gave us the wooden bats. We brought the wood and we swung it for 60 minutes.”
Allen and quarterback Carson Palmer stressed how physical the game would be against the Steelers and the need to stand up to the Steelers and match them blow for blow.
In the end, it was the Raiders who delivered the knockout punch in the form of a 43-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski as time expired.
The Raiders improved to 1-2, tying the Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs for second place in the AFC West, one game behind the San Diego Chargers.
It doesn’t get any easier for the Raiders, if history is any judge, finding a way to beat Manning, defensive tackle Richard Seymour said.
“He’s definitely the best that I’ve faced,” Seymour said. “You name all the accolades, he has them. He’s probably the best quarterback to suit up. He’s as good as advertised. They don’t build the league around him and his commercials and that sort of thing for nothing. He’s the real deal. And he’s a team guy.
“From my years in facing him, seeing him over at the Pro Bowl as well, he’s also a great guy off the field as well. So he’s good for the NFL, obviously the Broncos are fortunate to have him. But see if we can’t make him pay this week.”
Wheeler was a teammate of Manning’s the past four seasons, when both played for the Indianapolis Colts. He said he playing against Manning in practice every day helped expedite his learning curve as an NFL player.
“He made me a great player, just by playing against him, hearing him talk, hear him talk to his offense,” Wheeler said. “Like pointing out things against the defense when I was on defense. I was like, ‘Wow, he’s looking at that aspect of our defense.’ He made me a great player just being around him.”
Wheeler is hopeful of using some of the knowledge he gleaned to help the Raiders solve the riddle that is deciphering all the gibberish that Manning spews at the line of scrimmage in an attempt to throw off the defense and get his team into a favorable position before the play.
Wheeler, no doubt, remembers more than he lets on, and Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver certainly will pump him for information all week.
“I used to know a couple of things, a couple of sounds,” Wheeler said. “The run to the right, I used to know it. One of them was like ‘stadium’ or something like that. I forgot ‘em, man. He didn’t play last year when I was there, and it’s been a little while, so I’m going to have to call one of my boys that played with me that remember them.”
Yeah, OK, Philip.

– Tight end Brandon Myers caught all four passes thrown his way against the Steelers. That kept intact a rather impressive streak for Myers.
He has caught all 15 passes thrown him the first three games. By comparison, no other player in the NFL has caught more than nine passes without a drop or incompletion.
Myers is second on the Raiders in receptions (15) to running back Darren McFadden (17) and first in receiving yards (206). Not bad for a guy that was an afterthought in the passing game his first three seasons. He already has set a career-high in yards. He will tie his career-best in receptions with his next catch.

– The Raiders committed 14 penalties for 102 yards their first three games this season. They committed 30 for 271 yards their first three games last season.
What’s worse, the Raiders had more penalties (15) and penalty yards (131) in their first game last season than they have so far this season.
The Raiders set league records for penalties (163) and yards penalized (1,358) last season. They are on pace for 75 for 544 yards this season.
The key, Allen said: “Just do your job, be disciplined, do it right, don’t do things that are going to cost your football team. And like I said before, at the end of the day, I have to do a good job of bringing it to their attention, the players have to do the job of getting it corrected, and they’ve done a nice job of that through three games.”
Seymour said Allen and the coaching staff are succeeding where so many of their predecessors failed.
“It’s a credit to the coaching staff and also the players on the field in terms of everybody being held accountable for their own actions,” Seymour said. “One penalty is one penalty too much. If everybody just said, ‘Well, I only got one, then you’ve got 11 on defense and 11 on offense and we still would be setting records.”

– Yes, McFadden rushed for 113 yards against the Steelers on Sunday. However, it’s way too early to declare the Raiders rushing woes ironed out.
McFadden’s first carry went for 64 yards against the Steelers. Take away that run, and he averaged only 2.9 yards on his 17 other carries. Also, he is averaging 3.8 for the season, but only 2.4 on the 43 carries other than the 64-yarder.
For what it’s worth, McFadden said his long run was a called play, not an audible by Palmer, as some suggested. McFadden said the blocking scheme remained the same Sunday as it was the first two games.
“It’s something that we’ve been doing,” McFadden said. “We always tell ourselves, you just have to keep hitting it, you’re going to get 1 yard here, 2 yards there, eventually you’re going to break the big ones. (Sunday) we were doing that.”

– Running back Taiwan Jones played quite a bit on special teams Sunday. However, he didn’t play a single snap on offense.
Jones bobbled a kick return and mishandled a toss from fullback Marcel Reece in the regular-season opener. Allen said at the time that Jones’ playing time would be affected by those miscues.
Man, Allen wasn’t kidding.
By comparison, backup Mike Goodson played three snaps, with McFadden on the field for the 54 other offensive plays.

– The Raiders had difficulty getting their hands on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on Sunday. Yet, when it counted most, rookie linebacker Miles Burris got his arms around Roethlisberger and forced him to make an errant pass on a third-down play.
That forced the Steelers to punt, and the Raiders marched down the field for a game-winning field goal.
“I just ran upfield, I was going to have to take the back man-to-man if he came out my way,” Burris said. “He went out the other side, slipped through, and I got (Roethlisberger) at his ankles. He’s a strong guy, still got the ball off, but it was great to get off the field at that point.”

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  • Just Fire Baby

    Just fire baby , I’ve seen it called a fumble

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    Well I am sure it has, the refs don’t get every call right. It is not like an OOB play or something with defined lines, it is a completely judgement call with tons of gray area. Just like PI, which can either way almost all the time.

    I posted a video link of almost the exact same play called an incomplete pass from last year.

  • http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    LOL, yes, but he has said that some of the stuff he used to get away with he can no longer because he now wears teh Silver and Black!
    ——-
    Or maybe it was because the team sucked.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Holy Roller was the right call, there was no rule in place before that.

  • hwnrdr

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
    The Holy Roller was the right call, there was no rule in place before that.

    That is true…not sure why I used that example!

  • hwnrdr

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
    LOL, yes, but he has said that some of the stuff he used to get away with he can no longer because he now wears teh Silver and Black!
    ——-
    Or maybe it was because the team sucked.

    LOL, maybe…

  • hwnrdr

    It was a perfect ending to a very bad weekend for the refs! How the hell do you give a coach 2 challenges with no time outs??? Of course that didn’t change the outcome of the game, but the integrity is pretty much gone!

  • DJ Johnny

    hwnrdr Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 7:22 am
    That Sugar Bear Hamilton play at least had some question to it. It looked like his hands hit Stabler in the helmet. It was closer than everyone made it to be. Yes, it went our way, and even the holy roller, but last night was a big WOW! It may have hit Jennings and Tate’s hand at the same time but it was clear that Jennings got possesion of it, making it not simultaneous! But it is what it is…and Goodell is probably laughing right now because he doesn’t care!

    Plus the Hamilton play was on 3rd down…there’s always a chance Stabler converts on 4th…I don’t know. The video of Hamilton is grainy…but what u see is his hand lopping Stabler in the head and all accounts back that up.

    We were fortunate to win tho. NE was very good that yr. Our one loss was 48-17 at NE that yr.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Didn’t Lamarr Houston draw more holding calls than any other player in the NFL last year?

    I remember reading that link this offseason.

  • ddwight

    Even if it were true, let’s just say, don’t the Raiders and fans kind of fuel it? “Build a bully” and go punch Big Ben in the face is cool right?

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    I dont think that is kool, however I also do not think it was kool, that just because our deceased owner had an unorthodox way of doing things differently (not-robotic) way of the other owners…that the Raiders overall have not been dealt with like the Mara’s Craft’s, Hunts, Bowlens, Bidwells of the league.

  • morilla

    I love hearing everyone else b:tch about the refs now. Welcome to our world.

  • Just Fire Baby

    that the Raiders overall have not been dealt with like the Mara’s Craft’s, Hunts, Bowlens, Bidwells of the league.

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    I don’t want to speak for Al (RIP) but he seemed to like it that way.

  • DJ Johnny

    “Madden wants to know if it’s real…they say yes…and get your big butt out of here…he does.”

  • hwnrdr

    Plus the Hamilton play was on 3rd down…there’s always a chance Stabler converts on 4th…I don’t know. The video of Hamilton is grainy…but what u see is his hand lopping Stabler in the head and all accounts back that up.

    We were fortunate to win tho. NE was very good that yr. Our one loss was 48-17 at NE that yr.

    You are correct sir!

  • http://insidetheoaklandraiders bbq before the game

    but to turn over the call after looking at it for a long time in a game like that. For the first time in history to call a pass what is not. horrendous. j mac quoted rusmfeld (fortunatly not a ref or replacement ref) as saying that the raiders were just evil. The leage called the raiders the mascott of the nfl like mickey mouse but maybe coyote would be better. they see the big mean raiders and they already know that they break the rules. I don’t think that the one constan that mattered was an ancient old davis and that HE could shape the penalties through good and bad coaches who were not penalized in other places. It was THE REFS. AND that culture just got flushed and now we’re not getting phone pi calls. Raider fans of all SHOULD NOT COMPLAIN.

  • hwnrdr

    Dam, if you all have twitter accounts, it is cluttered wih all of this mess! People talking about the players should boycott…haha, crazy talk right there!

  • Carl Weathers

    Sure the regular refs get calls wrong but nowhere near as bad as what we’ve seen so far after 3 weeks. They are screwing up the time on the clock, yards and ball placement, the challenges, helmet to helmet obvious hits, (Myers hit was as clear as day), its just brutal how bad they are. Plus it takes them 10 minutes sometimes for a challenge. I’m sure some of these guys are dropping cash on the games that’s how bad it is.

  • ddwight

    811.Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
    that the Raiders overall have not been dealt with like the Mara’s Craft’s, Hunts, Bowlens, Bidwells of the league.

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    I don’t want to speak for Al (RIP) but he seemed to like it that way.

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    Then just try to remember one thing, the NFL didn’t like it.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Not sure why the challenges are taking longer, the replay officials are the same as before.

  • hwnrdr

    Carl Weathers Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
    Sure the regular refs get calls wrong but nowhere near as bad as what we’ve seen so far after 3 weeks. They are screwing up the time on the clock, yards and ball placement, the challenges, helmet to helmet obvious hits, (Myers hit was as clear as day), its just brutal how bad they are. Plus it takes them 10 minutes sometimes for a challenge. I’m sure some of these guys are dropping cash on the games that’s how bad it is.

    After the failed onside kick attempt on Sunday, the refs stopped play for like 10 minutes to consult about something. Restarted play with no explanation at all…yup! Welcome to 2012!

  • VanHeathen30

    Seems like the Players Union needs to ome out and support the Original Refs…It’s in their best interest to get them back on the field before someone gets really hurt…
    Still feeling good on Tuesday.
    Raider On!

    “Bring the Wood!”

  • hwnrdr

    Funny thing…Goodell punished the Saints with the Bounty and rightfully so, but if player safety is his major concern, these replacements are gonna get these guys killed…

  • YoungAmerican
  • guest123

    When the real refs get back, it’s going to be a shock to some of the players who are cheating on the fake refs getting away with chop blocks, illegal picks, late hits, holding up and down the field. The field will be littered yellow for a few weeks till the players reaclimate to the game being called the right way.

  • hwnrdr

    Anyways, guys…we probably have gotten away with some crap thanks to the replacements…right now it is what it is! I was waiting for football since the end of the SuperBowl. I guess replacements are better than no football, but how much longer til we actually see boycotts and other stuff from fans? Probably not, but in this day and age, you never know!

  • Marks hair

    Love the new refs.. They indiscriminately suck…. its not ALL against us.. nobody complained when rediculous calls whent against us week after week for mg entire life.

  • Plunketthead

    Snoop dad is pretty funny.
    He just said Tebow will play CB in revis’s place

  • http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    Why dont the refs just come to my house and (BLEEP) me up the (BLEEP)? Trick question. These f*ck faces couldn’t get that right either.
    —Demetre, Oak Creek, WI

  • guest123

    Hawaiian Raider,

    I hear what you are saying, and I’m no Packer fan. It is what it is kind of like looking the other way.

    Now imagine that was the Raiders out there jobbed on the last play and the opposing coach was pumping his fist in victory after the S&B poured out their hearts for 60 minutes. Now imagine you are in the stands to watch that happen. Is that kind of football better than no football?

  • Just Fire Baby

    – In addition to Huff’s clueless coverage, he missed three tackles.

    – The Raiders allowed just six total pressures on Palmer all day, and two of those were surrendered by RB Darren McFadden.

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    Not sure why people thought Huff played well, he looked awful to me, although he does earn some credit for me for sacking up and playing a position he has no reason to be playing.

    He is not a CB, never really was and never will be.

  • http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    Larry Fitzgerald, a receiver, said that at no point did Tate have possession of the ball.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Thanks for the link YA!!

  • raider till i die

    I’m with u van still feeling good maybe now the crouch faces att the NFL channel will talk about our game and pick and discuss instead of just bypassing us like we have no shot at beating anybody haha makes me feel good we won the game nobody thought we would win

  • hwnrdr

    guest123 Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    Hawaiian Raider,

    I hear what you are saying, and I’m no Packer fan. It is what it is kind of like looking the other way.

    Now imagine that was the Raiders out there jobbed on the last play and the opposing coach was pumping his fist in victory after the S&B poured out their hearts for 60 minutes. Now imagine you are in the stands to watch that happen. Is that kind of football better than no football?

    Got your point! But do you think the fans will start boycotting? That will probably be a first!

  • Marks hair

    Im just glad the other 31 teams FINALLY have go eat some ref cock… enjoy fücktards!!

  • http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    Nobody is going to boycott. If anything, the replacement refs will improve ratings because everyone wants to watch the drama.

  • guest123

    Got your point! But do you think the fans will start boycotting? That will probably be a first!

    *******

    Nope. I think football is an addiction. Why do the owners charge full price for preseason games that don’t matter to anyone? Why don’t they give the crowd a price break for the 4th preseason game where nobody but scrubs are playing against future insurance salesmen? Why do they charge $40K PSL’s for the priviledge of purchasing season tix? Do the owners look like they have any shame or worry about their revenues? Nope. Because we the fans will continue to buy whatever product they are shilling at us. And we lap it up every time with very short memories.

  • guest123

    Not sure why people thought Huff played well, he looked awful to me, although he does earn some credit for me for sacking up and playing a position he has no reason to be playing.

    He is not a CB, never really was and never will be.

    ************

    This sounds like a common argument that can also be applied to the replacement refs. Sympathy for the devil?

  • Thec

    Zebs made a great call… Great catch by tate.

  • Marks hair

    Ive heard vets talk about how different the “real” refs fùck the raiders many times.. look up jerry rices quotes.. i ♥ the shìtty but fair new refs!

  • Thec

    With the traditionals we lead the league and break records in penalties no matter what regime is in Oakland, or players.

    Now with the replacements we are not penalized half as much.

    What is wrong with this picture.

    I am not buying DA and the org have cleaned up the penalties.

    What is really at play here?

  • Marks hair

    Bad calls and delays for everyone!!!! Its not just us yay!

  • Marks hair

    The nob doesnt own the new refs yet.. hooray!!

  • Carl Weathers

    Lol thec, that’s funny!

  • Marks hair

    The mob..ha

  • Carl Weathers

    2 raiders got concussions on illegal hits. No penalties. Ya the new refs rock!

  • Marks hair

    Ref dìck for everyone!!!!! We’re not the meg of the league anymore

  • Thec

    Marks hair Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    The mob..ha

    ++++++++==

    The comment is funny however, any credence to it????

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/25/seattle-green-bay-call-caused-huge-swing-in-vegas/

  • Marks hair

    The old refs would have givin us 13 penalties last week..

  • Thec

    Will be back ltr… 1N

  • http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    The Raiders have less penalties because Dennis Allen is coach and Al Davis is dead.