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Raiders makeover continues in earnest

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 26th, 2012 at 4:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.

My, how things have changed in such a short period of time for the Raiders. The latest move came today, when the Raiders waived second-year offensive tackle Joseph Barksdale, one of Oakland’s two third-round picks in the 2011 NFL draft, and signed veteran defensive end Andre Carter.
It’s just the latest in a growing series of moves by first-year general manager Reggie McKenzie in his reshaping of the Raiders 53-man roster.
Since he arrived, McKenzie has jettisoned six players selected by the Raiders under late managing general partner Al Davis between 2005-11. Here’s a look at those players:

Player Position Year drafted/round Transaction
DeMarcus Van Dyke Cornerback 2011/3rd Waived
Joseph Barksdale Offensive tackle 2011/3rd Waived
Chimdi Chekwa Cornerback 2011/4th Waived
Bruce Campbell Offensive tackle 2010/4th Traded
Louis Murphy Wide receiver 2009/4th Traded
Stanford Routt Cornerback 2005/2nd Waived

Of the aforementioned six, only Routt and Murphy produced in games on a consistent basis. McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen wasted little time in parting ways with the four others.
It remains to be seen whether this amounts to change for change’s sake or whether McKenzie and Allen are improving the roster.
Allen is convinced that these are moves that make the Raiders more competitive.
“Eventually there’s a point in time where you move on from everybody,” Allen said. “It’s never an easy decision. There’s always a lot of thought that goes in. There’s only 53 spots that we have on the active roster, and we’ve got to try and do whatever we can to fill those spots with the best 53 guys that we think give us the best chance to win on Sundays.”
Barksdale and Campbell didn’t get much of an opportunity to show what they can do in games. Chekwa remains on the practice squad, but he keeps getting passed over for other cornerbacks. Van Dyke played sparingly last season before he was waived and then signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

– Allen said wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey was at the team facility today, undergoing tests to see how he is recovering from the concussion he suffered Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
By the way, Steelers safety Ryan Mundy was fined $21,000 by the league for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Heyward-Bey early in the fourth quarter.
Heyward-Bey did not practice. However, he participated in team meetings and is on his way to a full recovery. It’s unlikely that he will play Sunday against the Denver Broncos.

– Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp admitted during offseason workouts that tight end was a position of concern entering training camp. Not anymore.
Through three games, Brandon Myers, David Ausberry and Richard Gordon have combined for 19 receptions for 263 and one touchdown. Kevin Boss, Myers and Ausberry had only six receptions for 62 yards and no touchdowns through three games last season.
“That’s been a position that was a little bit of a question mark coming into the season,” Allen said. “So the fact that we’ve gotten some production out of those guys, and all of them have had production in their own way and they’ve brought different aspects to our offense, that’s been a positive.”
Myers has caught all 15 passes thrown his way the first three games. Others might be surprised at how well he has played. Yet, Myers said in recent years that he was confident he could play at a high level if given the chance.
That chance came and went last season, when the Raiders signed Kevin Boss one day after incumbent starter Zach Miller signed with the Seattle Seahawks.
“You never know what’s going to happen, especially with a new organization and new coaches and things like that,” Myers said. “For them to do that, it was on us to step up in the games and make plays. So far, we’ve done that.”
Quarterback Carson Palmer raves about Myers, saying he is faster than people think and has the best hands on the team.
“He’s got unbelievable hands,” Palmer said. “He’s kind of a sleeper. … He makes diving catches, one-handed catches. You don’t ever see him drop anything.”
Palmer said Myers also understands how to set up routes, find the soft spot in zone coverage and get in position to make plays.
“Just, really, a solid, all-around player,” Palmer said. “And he can block too, which a lot of times you get a guy that’s really good at one thing and struggles at the other. Brandon’s really balanced in the passing and running game.”

– Outside linebacker Aaron Curry is on the physically unable to perform list for at least three more weeks with sore knees. On Wednesday, Curry worked off to the side, while his teammates practiced.
“He was out here running around again today,” Allen said. “We still got some time with him. He’s looking better and whenever we get to that point in time where we got to make a decision, then we’ll be ready to make the decision.”
Curry declined an interview request today, saying he isn’t allowed to talk about his injury.
If so, seems rather curious that he Tweeted the other day how treatment he is receiving from someone in Danville is having a positive effect.

– People are quick to criticize Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning for not being the same player he was with the Indianapolis Colts and before the four neck surgeries.
For our money, we’ll listen to Broncos coach John Fox and Allen.
Fox: “The people that look at the tape and study it would think it’s semi-comical,” Fox said of people questioning Manning’s arm strength.
Allen: “I’m not falling into that trap,” Allen said. “He’s Peyton Manning. He’s a Hall of Fame quarterback. There’s no way that we’re going to, in any way, say that he’s not the same quarterback that he’s been. I’ve watched the tape. He’s still an outstanding quarterback. He’s operating that offense, and I don’t really see much of a dropoff of where he’s been before. He’s still an outstanding quarterback.”
And Manning’s assessment?
“I have our coaches’ analysis that kind of is between us, the players and the coaches, and we have things that we’re working on, and things that we’re trying to correct and things we’re trying to improve on,” Manning said. “So, I’m not really into giving an after-three-game analysis, or sharing that publicly anyway.”
Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain grew up watching Manning. He said he didn’t realize the full scope of Manning’s mastery of the offense until he played against him.
“He’s just amazing,” McClain said. “As a kid, I watched always Peyton Manning and the Colts, but I never played him. Then you get in the NFL and you’re like, ‘Does he really make this many checks?’ He does. It’s crazy. I was amazed. He’s an amazing player.
“They had a rough start to the season but, at the end of the day, he’s still Peyton Manning. He still has all the ability in the world. We have a good game plan. We have to go out there and execute and do some things he hasn’t seen and make it kind of hard for him. You just have to execute and play your best.”

– The New England Patriots used the No. 6 pick in the 2001 NFL draft on defensive lineman Richard Seymour. One pick later, the 49ers selected defensive end Andre Carter.
Now, both players are on the Raiders. Seymour said the addition of Carter gives the Raiders more juice in their defensive line rotation.
“Definitely some leadership, for sure,” Seymour said. :He’ll be instrumental. He’s a proven guy in this league. Obviously, it will take some times to get his legs under him, but he’s a guy that’s shown he can rush the passer and that will be essential for us.”
Carter worked out twice for the Raiders before signing today. He recorded 10 sacks for the Patriots last season despite missing the final two regular-season games with a quadriceps injury.
He said he is ready to roll right now, though it’s unclear whether he will be in shape to play as soon as this Sunday.
“If I wasn’t ready, then I wouldn’t be here,” Carter said. “Obviously they signed me, and I was glad to be a part of this great organization, and we’ll just take it day by day.”
Carter said he also worked out for the Arizona Cardinals and St. Louis Rams, with the Patriots in the mix, too. Ultimately, he decided to return to his Bay Area roots.
“I had a lot of friends who said, ‘You crossed over to the dark side,’ ” Carter said. “Everything comes full circle. Where I’m at in my career, why not be back in the Bay Area where it all started for me? A lot of good memories from the time I played at Oak Grove High School to being a Cal Bear to being a 49er. Being the last draft class of Bill Walsh is something I hold dear and just continue to play this game.”
Defensive lineman Desmond Bryant said he is fortunate to have learned from the likes of Greg Ellis, Gerard Warren, Seymour and Tommy Kelly. Now, he’s looking forward to gleaning some pointers from Carter, too.
“As a defensive lineman, we always like to have more guys that can get the job done,” Bryant said. “When you have those guys in there, you’re not going to have to play as much, so that will help you not get tired as much and help you be more effective for the entire game. So, yeah, anytime you can add to a rotation, especially pass-rush situations, the better off you are as a defense and team.”
Carter recorded 76 sacks his first 11 seasons. He also played for the Patriots and Washington Redskins. The Raiders recorded only three sacks in their first three games.

– Raiders free safety Michael Huff picked a fine time to convert to cornerback. He faced Ben Roethlisberger in his first game, last Sunday. This Sunday, he gets to face Manning.
“Got thrown in the fire, kind of learned a lot last week,” Huff said. “Had my growing pains on a few plays, obviously should have played better, got to hold up better on the outside. But luckily we got the W and that week’s over, so I can learn from that film and get better this week.”
Huff started at cornerback at Texas quite a bit his freshman and sophomore seasons. By the tail end of his collegiate career, he played mostly safety.
Allen said he expects Huff to make strides this week, building off the things he did against the Steelers. Huff said he already noticed that he played too far off the receiver at times.
“It’s been so long since I was out there,” Huff said, “and on game time, I looked back and I lined up sometimes 10, 12 yards off, when I really wasn’t probably paying attention to it. But this week, I’ll be more focused on my depth on certain things so definitely this week will be better.”
Former Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha texted Huff afterward and offered a stern critique, Huff said.
“He has high expectations for me, so he didn’t cut me any slack,” Huff said.

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  • hwnrdr

    Didn’t we beat Peyton Manning’s Colts in Indy in 2000?

  • Twinkle

    Steelers were talking us beating them defensively.Is their defense that bad?

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    AAhhhh!!BACK!!

    Before I get stopped from posting AGAIN.

    LMN….

    The show is called “Being Liverpool”.It’s on Channel 5 at 9o’clock on Fridays.6 parts – first was on last week.

    Hope you can find it on the internet.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Okay….

    Blog keeps cutting me off.

    Back tomorrow.

    Have a good one Nation.

  • Twinkle

    Yep 38-31 in 2000.

  • Twinkle

    In reply to neilb…I have no clue what trips the ‘awaiting moderation’ gig either.

  • HayesDaze37

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Interesting viewpoints:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    Allen and Mackenzie aren’t the type to do something just to do something. They are bent on improving the team. It is hard to believe getting rid of a lot of dead wood is not going to improve this team on mulitple levels.

    ———–

    Chris in NY Says:
    …/…Routt was making too much and Barksdale was a bad ZBS fit and might not have the determination to emerge at this level.

    The other four were clearly mistakes by Sir Chubby Checker.

    ———————————

    First…there haven’t been the immediate wholesale personnel changes many predicted. The changes here have been many, but the major changes will be long-term and Organizational in scale. It will take years.

    He’s doing a fine job…but there is absolutely zero proof that ReggieMac’s changes will result in any better results on the field this year, or in future. Only time will tell. He seems to know what he’s doing, but that sure doesn’t mean he’s right with his moves. There are great personnel men all over the NFL who are wrong half the time when judging potential.

    BUT…it’s simply too soon to know whether Reggie made mistakes in cutting those he did. Especially with young Players, it can take a few years. Personally, I think Pittsburgh will turn DVD into a good CB (like he could be here)…and I think Chekwa’s got the talent also. But, talent doesn’t mean good enough.

    Right now…we’re no better or worse in the W-L column than we might have been with Al. But, there is much promise in a calmer and more structured Organization.

    However, as far as judging talent goes, not too many people were as qualified as Al was…even when he was old. Rather than say ReggieMac is flat-out making personnel mistakes, I’ll just disagree with a few of them…and hope he’s right.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Regarding Personnel changes by Reggie:

    1) The personnel department under Al consisted of an 80+ year old and a bunch of Yes-Men.

    2) I don’t think Reggie’s personnel department is that bad.

    Change the whole roster Regge! wohooooo1

  • DJ Johnny

    So what exactly does Tarver do anyway?

    I find it disconcerting that Huff discovers he needs to not play off so much by recieving phone calls from a PLAYER who plays for ANOTHER TEAM in a differnt conference and he states THAT is how he knows now he shouldn’t do that.

    Shouldn’t Tarver be telling him this stuff? NOT Nnamdi Asomugha?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    tarver is proving to be overated to me…last years def was better at pass…there is improvement in run def or is it that teams know they can pass on this zone def?

  • Raiderbuck

    D Needs to step up big time this Sunday

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    I think im going to meet the replacement refs. they were funny. But look at the Donks chest straps……LOL

    http://cjzero.com/gifs/SouthParkNFL.gif

  • Raiderbuck

    Surprise surprise, Peter King picks us to lose,….

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    *miss the refs

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    Not a surprise Buck everyone picking us to loose. Im going to wait on schaffer i think im starting to like that guy. he was the only talking head that picked us last week. R A I D E R S 27
    donkeys 24
    .

  • HayesDaze37

    And…it’s also too early to tell how Tarver and Dennis Allen are doing. For a “Defensive-minded” HC, and another recognized young Defensive mind in Tarver, we sure haven’t seen the results we wanted thus far.

    I still expect major improvement…but it’s not here yet. It’s going to take game-after-game-after-game before I believe the D is improved. Winning close games 34-31 is great and all…but I’d rather win that game 31-17, knowing my Defense was stout and tough to beat.

    I look forward to the day when Dennis Allen stops his Art Shell impersonation on the sideline…and he and Tarver get their Defense (and whole Team) as fired-up as the opponents all seem to be. Confidence and cockiness goes a long way on D…and it’s time to get some built with these guys.

  • bcz24

    Kam Wimbley – 8 tackles, 1 sack (on pace for 42.5 tackles and 5 sacks…) yup thats worth 11 million

    Stan Routt 9 tackles, 1 int. Another 11 million dollar player?

    DVD… has ZERO stats with the steelers. He may have suited but he hasn’t played yet

    Bruce Campbell suited for only 1 of the panthers 3 games and allowed 2 sacks (goodson scored a TD for us, and had a late return thate set up another td drive… we win that trade)

    Lou Murphy has 4 catches for 70 yards (3 for 63 week 1) We have 7 players with more catches and yards. Murphy could have contributed, but he was jettisoned before Ford got hurt, and he was clearly behind DHB, Moore, Ford, and Streater, and they wanted Criner to have the opportunity to contribute.

  • bcz24

    I didn’t even mention barksdale… has he EVER suited for a game?

  • Marks hair

    Tarver has the worst secondary in the nfl to work with.. im sure he just tells them not to get beat over the top.

  • bcz24

    410.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 10:49 am
    tarver is proving to be overated to me…last years def was better at pass…there is improvement in run def or is it that teams know they can pass on this zone def?
    *******************
    Tarver is over rated? You continously make ignorant statements in here… are you another of Sulli’s sock puppet personalities? Yes our secondary blows. It has NOTHING to do with scheme, and everything to do with the execution by the players. You just have to complain about that since Knapp shut your mouth this weekend when the PLAYERS executed the scheme properly.

  • Marks hair

    Knapp adjusted his playcalling..

  • HayesDaze37

    Actually, DVD has been stellar on Special Teams. That’s what a lot of good young Players do.

    Anyone who says DVD, or Barksdale for that matter, doesn’t have the goods to become a high-quality NFL starter is either biased, making a huge assumption (guess), or is just plain stubborn in their convictions that whatever Al did was wrong, and whatever Reggie’s doing is right.

    The real truth, like most things, lies somewhere in the middle. Again…it’s just too early to tell how Reggie’s cuts will work out elsewhere. The most important thing for US, the Raiders and fans, is that ReggieMac replaces those guys with talent that does pan-out right here…regardless what those former Raiders do elswhere.

  • inonewordraider

    Ratings:
    Palmer: 89.3 (15th)
    Rivers: 86.5 (17th)
    Manning: 85.6 (20th)
    Cassel: 73.8. (27th)

  • DutchRaider77

    Kinda funny, got it from a co-worker

    All 32 NFL Quarterbacks & Their Muppet Doppelgangers

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/benrosen/all-32-nfl-quarterbacks-their-muppet-doppelgange

    Carson=Animal

    Rivers=Angry Miss Piggy

  • Al_is_theraiders

    bcz24…kinda like bergstrom?? oh yeah briesel has improved the run game…maybe hanson, francies, bartell and spencer have improved our pass def? Special teams started great huh? took you 7 players to surpass murphy? talk about ignorant…

  • Marks hair

    If knapp calls this game the way he did 1 & 2 we’re fùcked..

  • HayesDaze37

    Knapp’s playcalling wasn’t that great, guys. 2nd-and-long?? How about a pitch to the RB? Yeah, that ought to work.

    The Players executed…and a lot of guys made things happen on broken/breaking-down plays. Without DMC’s long TD, and Carson Palmer playing brilliantly at times, we probably would’ve lost last week by at least 14-points. It certainly wasn’t a blow-out win, although it was a great one.

  • 303Raider

    Schein and Gannon picked us to lose, who cares……..

  • HayesDaze37

    If the talking-heads picked us to lose, it must be all over then.

  • Marks hair

    Knapps playcalling will never be great.. he’s mediocre and this is his last job as an oc..

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Special teams started great huh? took you 7 players to surpass murphy?

    =============================================

    He meant that we have seven players on our roster right now who EACH have more catches than Murphy: DMac, Myers, DHB, Moore, Streater, Reece and Hagan.

  • SaintKaufman

    I’m pretty sure some of these fans in here are women. No way a man could b!tch, nag and moan everyday about the same thing regardless of facts or evidence. Day after day after day………….STFU and get me a beer!

    Relentless I tell ya.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Also, Ihenacho was just signed to the practice squad, replacing Owosu-Ansah (or whatever the dude’s name was).

  • Marks hair

    But at least against Pittsburgh we passed past the sticks on 3rd dns.. and commited to running between the tackles against 2 deep safeties.

  • Charlie

    Hayes

    Anyone who continues to criticize coaching is ignorant when it comes to the Raiders and football in general. We have not had a winning season in 10 years because our players suck.
    You can not blame Ryan, Marshall, Bresnahan, Allen or Tarver.

    Players need to execute.
    If DVD was good he would have made the team. (See Burris, Moore etc.).
    See my post on 343.

    Having to sign the types of players we have had to recently is pathetic. Reggie’s hands are tied and he is doing the best he can. We have drafted poorly for the last 10 years and it shows in W/L’s.

    You build strong teams through the DRAFT. (Especially on the line of scrimmage).

  • SaintKaufman

    I would assume this week is gonna be all about the run game and underneath throws. Gotta slow that pass rush down, keep those LB’s back and hit ‘em with screens when they come.

  • 303Raider

    Here’s why we win:

    1) DA has some Intel on Their D and O
    2) DMAC owns the Donks
    3)Their D is missing some LB’s and is suspect vs the Run
    4) Andre carter creates a little space for Kelly and Seymour to take down Peyton

    Raiders-24
    Donks- 21

  • bcz24

    425.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:13 am
    bcz24…kinda like bergstrom?? oh yeah briesel has improved the run game…maybe hanson, francies, bartell and spencer have improved our pass def? Special teams started great huh? took you 7 players to surpass murphy? talk about ignorant…
    ***********************
    No, those guys are all low cost stop gaps. We can’t afford quality talent. Good old uncle Al dug us into the marianas trench with his ridiculous spending. Reggie is fixing THAT. Once the financial house is back in order, the infusion of talent can start… you are the ignorant one for 1. Over-estimating the talent on this roster and 2. assuming ANYONE could come in and win immediately fron the position we were/still are in. No draft picks, no cap money, no depth, this was never a playoff team. We ALMOST made the playoffs last year… which just shows you how sorry our division was last year. You act as though Reggie inherited the 2007 Patriots undefeated team and all he needed was a bit of luck to run the table. Thats just simply not the case.

    Your comment about Louis Murphy just makes no sense at all. I said we have EIGHT players on our roster right now with more production on the year than Murphy.

  • bcz24

    Briesel looked pretty damn good on Sunday, it was his hole that McFadden ran through for the 64 yard TD.

  • Marks hair

    Cant blame bres? Riiight… he’s a hot commodity anyone would be stupid to criticize him…. best coach ive EVER SEEN

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  • fingers

    The Donks gave up 150 yrds on the ground Sunday aginst Texas…. I think McFaddens gonna have a good day…. Also think Palmers gonna light up the Donk CBS ….

  • Al_is_theraiders

    just open your eyes and dont be so quick to believe thecrap the media says, dont believe the crap da, reggie and co say. Look at the games and ask are we better than last year?

  • HayesDaze37

    RaiderDuck Says:

    He meant that we have seven players on our roster right now who EACH have more catches than Murphy: DMac, Myers, DHB, Moore, Streater, Reece and Hagan.

    ————————

    Of those 6, only 4 are WR’s. Let’s go apples-to-apples: To be fair…if Murph was still here, he would probably have more receptions than Hagen & Streater combined (Hagen wouldn’t even be here, actually).

    Fact is, though…Murph probably has reached his potential as a Player, while the other guys mentioned continue to show improvement. All we can hope for with ReggieMac is that the (young) guys he fills the roster with will show better (and sooner?) than the guys they replace.

  • bcz24

    427.HayesDaze37 Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Knapp’s playcalling wasn’t that great, guys. 2nd-and-long?? How about a pitch to the RB? Yeah, that ought to work.

    The Players executed…and a lot of guys made things happen on broken/breaking-down plays. Without DMC’s long TD, and Carson Palmer playing brilliantly at times, we probably would’ve lost last week by at least 14-points. It certainly wasn’t a blow-out win, although it was a great one.
    ***********************
    If not for DMo17 slipping and falling down Palmer doesn’t throw an int. If not for an illegal pick by mike wallace on 4th down Pittsburg doesn’t score off of the palmer int.

  • https://twitter.com/Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Kinda funny, got it from a co-worker

    All 32 NFL Quarterbacks & Their Muppet Doppelgangers

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/benrosen/all-32-nfl-quarterbacks-their-muppet-doppelgange

    Carson=Animal

    Rivers=Angry Miss Piggy
    ——–
    Some of those were spot on. LOL

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    in order for us to win we have to win the time of posetion batle + a couple of turovers. keeps payton of the field. he almost got a comeback win in both games cause he keept getting the ball back. a score on the first posetion will set up the tone.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    just open your eyes and dont be so quick to believe thecrap the media says, dont believe the crap da, reggie and co say. Look at the games and ask are we better than last year?

    =======================================

    Our behind-the-scenes organization is MUCH improved over a year ago.

    As for the product on the field…ask me again at mid-season. It’s too early to tell right now.

  • bcz24

    443.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    just open your eyes and dont be so quick to believe thecrap the media says, dont believe the crap da, reggie and co say. Look at the games and ask are we better than last year?
    ******************
    No. We aren’t. Who said we were? Who said they expected instant upgrades? Who has apparently unrealist opinions of what is possible in the NFL.

  • hwnrdr

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 27th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    Also, Ihenacho was just signed to the practice squad, replacing Owosu-Ansah (or whatever the dude’s name was).

    Good, liked that guys motor…sure, against other teams scrubs, but…