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Final: Broncos 37, Raiders 6

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 30th, 2012 at 4:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Denver Broncos reclaimed their home field with a vengeance Sunday in a 37-6 win over the Raiders before 76,013 fans at Sports Authority Field.

Quarterback Peyton Manning, who had nothing to do with the previous four losses to Oakland in Denver, orchestrated the win operating mostly out of a no-huddle offense the Raiders expected but could do nothing to stop.

Manning completed 30 of 38 passes for 338 yards and touchdown passes of 22 yards to Joel Dreessen, 17 yards to Eric Decker and 14 yards to Lance Ball.

Running back Willis McGahee gained 122 yards on 19 carries and a touchdown, and Matt Prater added field goals of 21 and 53 yards as the Broncos improved to 2-2.

Oakland managed field goals of 38 and 24 yards by Sebastian Janikowski, both drives which would have required touchdowns to have any meaningful chance at staying in the game.

The Raiders fall to 1-3, tied with Kansas City for last place in the AFC West, heading into their bye week. Denver is a game back of the first-place San Diego Chargers (3-1).

Coach Dennis Allen and his staff will have an additional week to figure out how to shore up a defense that has been shredded in each of the last three games against Miami, Pittsburgh and Denver.

Coming up after the bye is a difficult road assignment against the Atlanta Falcons and quarterback Matt Ryan, one of the NFL’s top home quarterbacks, throwing to receivers Roddy White, Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez.

The Broncos gave the Raiders some false hope late in the first half with a fake field goal attempt went awry, with place kicker Matt Prater throwing hopelessly incomplete on fourth-and-1 and giving the Raiders at the 36-yard line.

A 37-yard pass from quarterback Carson Palmer to Denarius Moore got the ball to the 13-yard line and Oakland eventually reached the 6. Palmer, however, threw incomplete on third-and-3 from the 6 and Janikowski came in to kick his second ifeld goal, this one from 24 yards out.

Any spark the Raiders had from that play quickly dissipated as Denver scored three touchdowns in the second quarter, a period Oakland has been outscored 55-7 this season.

Oakland’s plan going into the Denver game was simply enough in theory.

– Get Darren McFadden off and running against the Broncos, a team which he had gutted for 508 yards in their last four meetings.

– Get a lead, controlling the ball in the process, in hopes of keeping Manning from getting into a rhythm with the Denver no-huddle offense and keeping the Broncos pass rush in check.

The Raiders failed miserably on both counts.

McFadden had 15 yards on his first three carries but did little thereafter, finishing with 34 yards on 13 carries.

The Broncos established the tempo in the first quarter even if they hadn’t yet taken control of the game, controlling the ball for 11:15 with Manning-directed drives of 80 and 77 yards, the first ending in the 22-yard strike to Dreessen and the second on a 21-yard Prater field goal.

In between those two possessions, the Raiders managed a 60-yard drive of their own, but stalled at the 20-yard line, with Janikowski converting a 38-yard field goal.

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455 Responses to “Final: Broncos 37, Raiders 6”

  1. Silverandblack666 Says:

    the largest margin of victory over us since 1962 in 50 years!

    This is like the Art Shell era when you start breaking these kind of records!

  2. MistaBrown Says:

    Reggie 1-3 as a GM

  3. AmysInCharge Says:

    BIG DUMMY REGGIE

  4. Marks hair Says:

    THIS is why we didnt want knapp!!! The offense HAS TO CARRY US!!! and knapp fùcked it up! Dmacs being wasted

  5. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    TheGreatness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    Don’t be fooled, Broncos aren’t that good, we are that bad
    ——–
    True. Broncos could very well be a 2-3 team after next week.

  6. TerrapinRaider Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    Raidernationdave Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    Dmac’s line

    Att: 13 Yards: 34 TD’s: 0

    *********************************8888

    WOW!! JUST WOW!!

    If that doesn’t say all you need to know then I don’t know what else would ….just wow. Top back in the league reduced to this.

  7. AmysInCharge Says:

    The great news is you guys all got the GM you been cryin about!!! #Thejokesonyou

  8. AmysInCharge Says:

    The boot lickers were right, as usual.

  9. MistaBrown Says:

    KK couldn’t have been happier when Reggie took over. Finally got a GM now right Munster?

    1-3

  10. Raidernationdave Says:

    The largest margin of victory by the Broncos over the Raiders in, get this, 50 years! 50 years!! I’m 50! OMG! Please, Reggie, please fire Greg Knapp.

  11. PlunkforHOF Says:

    OUR DEFENSE SUCKS!!!! Not a SINGLE PUNT?…. Humiliating

  12. antispy3 Says:

    This will be the most embarassing Raider team of all time. I now will concentrate on the college game & potential draft picks. The past two games were televised locally here in the PNW. Save for the next debacle against Denver on Thursday Night Football I don’t foercast watching another down this year. Like Gertrud Stein said of Oakland, “there’s no there there.”

    Yhey’re not even an NFL caliber squad. Holes everywhere. They should draft a LT & move Veldheer, their best lineman offensive & defensively to RT. What an embarassing sieve that position is. . .

  13. antispy3 Says:

    Knapp didn’t make any adjustments at the half. Come to think of it the Raiders have yet to master halftime adjustments in years. . .no surprise. . .

  14. TerrapinRaider Says:

    This just makes me angry. Who the hell thought it was a good damn idea to hire Gregg freakin Knapp??

    This guy has killed this team – and whoever hired him.

    What once was a promise looking for greatness is now the doormat of the league once again. Just like that.

    Thanks Greggy, DA and McCheeze!

  15. realtruraider Says:

    Josh Dubow‏@JoshDubowAP

    With that FG, #Raiders have allowed more points (125) in 1st 4 games than they ever did with Al Davis. Only yrs with more 1961-62

    ——————————————————–
    Al D Defense > What ever the fk kinda defense this schit is

  16. Dwaiders Says:

    Allen cracking a smile after that game with the handshake in the middle of the field says it all.

  17. Que Says:

    Im still with Reggie and i posted last week . We all need to let whats gonna happen this year. I wasnt too happy with that win unless it meant something . Tis team needs draft picks and salaries moved. We have the wrong personel for what the coach wants to do. i hate to wait but the raiders need to let what needs to happen

  18. AmysInCharge Says:

    Big dummy Reg cant fire Knapp for a while,…hes pulling an Occupy KFC,…barricaded himself in there.

  19. Try Some Reality Says:

    This team sucks. End of story.

    Good teams don’t lose like that.

  20. Marks hair Says:

    I want geno smith… throw the season.. do a firesale

  21. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Que Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    Im still with Reggie and i posted last week . We all need to let whats gonna happen this year. I wasnt too happy with that win unless it meant something . Tis team needs draft picks and salaries moved. We have the wrong personel for what the coach wants to do. i hate to wait but the raiders need to let what needs to happen
    ===================================================
    That’s the stone cold reality!

  22. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    Josh Dubow‏@JoshDubowAP

    With that FG, #Raiders have allowed more points (125) in 1st 4 games than they ever did with Al Davis. Only yrs with more 1961-62

    ——————————————————–
    Al D Defense > What ever the fk kinda defense this schit is

  23. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hartline has 240 yards receiving today.

  24. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    Josh Dubow‏@JoshDubowAP

    With that FG, #Raiders have allowed more points (125) in 1st 4 games than they ever did with Al Davis. Only yrs with more 1961-62

    ——————————————————–
    Al D Defense > What ever the fk kinda defense this schist is

    =======

    That needed to be reposted

  25. Raidernationdave Says:

    Dmac’s line

    Att: 13 Yards: 34 TD’s: 0

    That just proves GK doesn’t know schytt about this team.

  26. Dwaiders Says:

    We all no knapp sucks but come on top to bottom sucks. Could use other words. Miami’s winning can you honest say they have better talent. Coaching people coaching.

  27. Marks hair Says:

    BURN IT ALL DOWN!!!!

  28. morilla Says:

    We only beat the Steelers last week because players stepped up and made plays. And those players weren’t Al’s guys.

    Fire sell is coming. You won’t recognize this team next year.

  29. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    I want geno smith… throw the season.. do a firesale
    ====================================================
    A firesale is coming.

    TK and Seymour are not worth a tenth of their $20MM salaries.

    Branch and Huff are not worth their pay either.

    And given it will be a turnaround…no point in paying a 33 year old QB $12MM either.

  30. Goldie7 Says:

    Just recognizing new post. lol

  31. Raidernationdave Says:

    You’re right. They don’t.

    +++++++++

    Try Some Reality Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    This team sucks. End of story.

    Good teams don’t lose like that.

  32. RaiderDuck Says:

    Morilla Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    We only beat the Steelers last week because players stepped up and made plays. And those players weren’t Al’s guys.

    Fire sell is coming. You won’t recognize this team next year.

    =============================================

    True that. First order of business: replace that idiot Cooper Carlisle (who almost got CP killed in the second quarter by missing the blitz) with Bergstrom. Second order of business: Let Bilukidi play more. A LOT more.

  33. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Carson Palmer will be a New York Jet next year

  34. fingers Says:

    Mark Davis is gonna give Reggie and Allen at least a couple yrs… So lets hope they use it wisely … All their is to do…

  35. DT42 Says:

    Nice to see that after our worse loss in 50 years to the Donks that DA is smiling and making nice with John Fox after the game. Always thought that it was strange that a division rival would be ok with letting us bring in their Defensive Coach for in interview. Now we know why Fox didn’t have a problem with DA becoming the new Raider coach.

    I guess we are sucking for Geno Smith and praying that Dana Holgorsen is coming with him to take over!!

  36. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Seymour gone.
    Kelly gone.
    Branch gone.
    Huff gone.
    Ro Mac maybe gone.

  37. realtruraider Says:

    Miami is beating the Cards, I would say they probably have about the same talent level, Im not sold on the Cards

  38. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Desmond Bryant is more of an impact player than TK and Seymour combined

  39. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Lechler gone.

  40. VanHeathen30 Says:

    DA your team just got OWNED by your Ex BOSS and his new boy toy GIMP…
    There’s no hugs, or smiles needed DA,
    YOU GAVE YOUR OLD BOSS THE BEST THANK YOU!
    A HUMILIATING ROLL OVER AND SUBMIT DEFEAT…

  41. RaiderDuck Says:

    Fingers Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
    Mark Davis is gonna give Reggie and Allen at least a couple yrs… So lets hope they use it wisely … All their is to do…

    =======================================

    Reggie will get three years minimum, probably five. As he should.

  42. Goldie7 Says:

    The stupid Patriots came back and won big time…they were losing by 2 TDs. I bet Belicheat was overjoyed to see his buddy refs. back.

  43. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hartline abusing a very good Cardinal defense.

  44. fingers Says:

    Duck… I agree

  45. realtruraider Says:

    morilla Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    We only beat the Steelers last week because players stepped up and made plays. And those players weren’t Al’s guys.

    ——————————————————

    Where the fk were they today? No one showed up

  46. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I’m trying to give DA a pass, give him a chance; but he hired that POS in the face of his history here! The longer he sticks with Knapp the more it will prove to me he is naive and incompetent. Then its the fire DA campaign.

  47. Marks hair Says:

    Fill in the coaches offices with a grow room, and change their parking spaces to handycapped spots..

  48. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    fingers Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Mark Davis is gonna give Reggie and Allen at least a couple yrs… So lets hope they use it wisely … All their is to do…

    ________________________________

    NOPE!

  49. fingers Says:

    That was a snot knockin loss….

  50. redshirt Says:

    2romes,

    Kill yourself.

  51. Dwaiders Says:

    Viking 3-1 can you actually say they have better talent then raiders. Coaching people coaching.

  52. redshirt Says:

    REGGIE MCKENZIE IS WORTHLESS.

  53. redshirt Says:

    REGGIE MCKENZIE IS TRASH

  54. fingers Says:

    Backstage… Nope?… Not gonna be our call is it…

  55. truepain Says:

    Notes and Quotes from today’s Game

    - Greg Knapp should be fired for not letting Seabass kick it from our own 20

    - Underutilizing DMC should be illegal

    - Palmer, DMC, Reece, Moore, Myers..and some people on our line and depth can stay.. EVERYONE ELSE CAN KICK DIRT

    - Greg Knapp is all TALK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1S3LP-1N0Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=451s)

  56. redshirt Says:

    REGGIE MCKENZIE IS THE DUMBEST GM I’VE EVER LAID EYES ON.

  57. redshirt Says:

    I hope Palmer retires just to stick it to RMAC and DA – two of the world’s biggest puzzies.

  58. ArmChair GM Says:

    Last week, Carson Palmer executed the no huddle and called his own plays at the line of scrimmage. The result was a WIN.

    This week, we went back to Greg Knapp calling all of the plays out of the huddle. The result…the worst loss in the history of the Oakland Raiders.

    Get this worthless POS Greg Knapp out of here right now!

    http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp#

  59. Marks hair Says:

    Tp time… fùck trying for the playoffs.. be real. We are done… think about the draft.

  60. Dwaiders Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    I’m trying to give DA a pass, give him a chance; but he hired that POS in the face of his history here! The longer he sticks with Knapp the more it will prove to me he is naive and incompetent. Then its the fire DA campaign.

    —————-

    No that hire should tell you all you need to know. I mean common knapp.

  61. redshirt Says:

    RMAC – KILL YOURSELF

    DA – TAKE A HOT POKER AND STICK IT UP YOUR AZZ, THEN STICK IT IN RMAC’S EYES, THEN KILL YOURSELF.

  62. ArmChair GM Says:

    FIRE GREG KNAPP!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.change.org/petitions/the-oakland-raiders-fire-greg-knapp#

  63. J Hill Says:

    SnB,

    Your rants against our OLD DTs is kinda missing the point, and just really piling on your old argument.

    Our DTs are not defending the TEs.

    Our DTs do not play on the Oline.

    We all know this is Seymour’s last year with the Raiders. He’s already playing half the game or less. Bryant was on the field A LOT today.

  64. redshirt Says:

    WORST GM-HC COMBO IN THE HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE

    HERP DERP HERP DERP

    HERP DERP HERP DERP

  65. Goldie7 Says:

    What’s wrong with Ro menatlly? Is he mentally in these games? Doesn’t look like at times.

  66. RaiderDuck Says:

    I hope DA makes them watch this game again. I hope he makes them watch the second half TWICE. In slow motion.

  67. boss01 Says:

    This defense is a joke…there is absolutely no doubt this is the worst defense in the nfl and worst coaching staff to boot

  68. 505raiders Says:

    sick of see a short pass on 1st down a run on second and long and then a pass that does not go pass the sticks

    3 and out and then the punt gets blocked

    knapp is a b!tch

  69. PlunkforHOF Says:

    {sigh}

  70. Raidernationdave Says:

    If you watch Tyvon Branch play his head is always moving around the field before the snap to the point he’s not even watching the play…beyond irritating.

  71. Dwaiders Says:

    Can’t call out certain players you have to call out everyone this whole team. No one makes plays. Poor dmac he’s all but gone do ya blame him.

  72. boss01 Says:

    The DC is not the problem…it’s the sorry pile of crap players on defense, there is ZERO talent on that side of the ball

  73. Goldie7 Says:

    Peyton Manning has the biggest Bobble Head I have seen in the NFL. I wish Manning would’ve stayed a Colt. No doubt about it.

  74. Bobby Bushay Says:

    Where were the QB roll outs/naked boots? (not that I particularly like them, but we made no adjustments to the pass rush). We missed DHB today too. If our CBs are going to be beat like drums, they might as well play more physical – get closer to the line – take some chances. This game could have been 50 to 6. I thought we hired a bright, defensive minded coach. Not liking the points given up, and that’s more important than the penalties. Went to the well with Reese and McFadden plays in second half, then no McFadden. You have to work with what you have – it’s called coaching for a reason. Need to build some pride out there. Many look like they are collecting big checks. That was something that was great about the NFL/Raiders for those not around for that earlier era. It was a pleasure watching men play more for pride than $$$. Going to Atlanta. The Coca Cola museum should be a highlight!

  75. Marks hair Says:

    Dumb dumb dumb. Dumb dumb dumb

  76. J Hill Says:

    John Madden endorsed McKenzie.

    Who should we have hired instead of Knapp?

  77. eastoaklandraider Says:

    nobody should be surprised or upset with the outcome of this game. I know nobody wants to hear it but we were screwed the min we fired hue and changed the o. our strength was supposed to be our o with our d just hanging on but now with this new o we installed were equally as bad on o as we are on d. which equals a horrible season and another year of dmacs career wasted. everybody is so happy with improvement of our penalty situation which is good but not worth sacrificing our o but we made our bed and now we must endure this top 10 pick season.

  78. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The real refs just totally blew a fumble call. It wasn’t even close.

  79. Goldie7 Says:

    We’ll get better someday good folks. Just keep believing.

  80. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    I’m trying to give DA a pass, give him a chance; but he hired that POS in the face of his history here! The longer he sticks with Knapp the more it will prove to me he is naive and incompetent. Then its the fire DA campaign.
    ==================================================
    You might as well start the fire DA campaign now. Because the Raiders are dug in with the WCO/ZBS.

    Personally, I wish that the Raiders would have looked to the New York Giants organization….but that’s water under the bridge.

    You gotta ride this out Nation and hope it gets better

  81. eastoaklandraider Says:

    hey j hill what about those denver recievers now?

  82. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    John Madden endorsed McKenzie.

    Who should we have hired instead of Knapp?
    —–
    According to the logic in here, Madden and Ron Wolf are idiots for recommending McKenzie to be GM.

  83. RaiderDuck Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    Dumb dumb dumb. Dumb dumb dumb

    ======================================

    Thank you. That’s very helpful.

  84. TheGreatness Says:

    Here is one of the problems….Name 1, just 1 player on defense that would start for another nfl team????

  85. fingers Says:

    Pass rush has really been a disappointment… Almost none at all …

  86. J Hill Says:

    If you want to give Palmer the credit last week, then why doesn’t he get the blame when we lose?

    I saw A LOT of the same audibling, or fake audibling from him that we saw last week.

    Denver covered the middle of the field, and we didn’t. Has been the theme of our non existant pass defense all season. S play is terrible.

  87. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    TheGreatness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    Here is one of the problems….Name 1, just 1 player on defense that would start for another nfl team????
    —–
    Seymour would still start on a lot of teams.

  88. J Hill Says:

    hey j hill what about those denver recievers now?

    ———————————————————–

    What about them?

  89. Goldie7 Says:

    Yeah it seems like the coaches coached better against the Steelers game when the fans brought a little heat and pressure about the Miami game.

  90. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Palmer and McFadden couldn’t do anything today because the O-Line was complete sh*t. They got manhandled.

  91. Marks hair Says:

    Next yr we hire an oc to fit with geno

  92. boss01 Says:

    There is no point in watching anymore Raider games this year….it is absolutely hopeless and sad to watch these sorry players on defense….it is beyond pathetic

  93. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    SnB,

    Your rants against our OLD DTs is kinda missing the point, and just really piling on your old argument.

    Our DTs are not defending the TEs.
    ===================================================
    Those DTs are the only players on the defensive roster that were “expected” to be leaders for this D.

    Another game where their presence isn’t felt.

    The lack of talent on the roster is directly related to the size of the salary cap devoted to those two.

    Seymour made two plays all game……the tipped passes…that’s it…TK was invisible again

  94. 505raiders Says:

    the scheme is the problem plain and simple personnel is in the bully mode firing off the line and opening designated holes the line looks lost

  95. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Sproles just got McCheesed by DJ Smith.

  96. fingers Says:

    Albert… Yep… The oline was going backwards allday

  97. RaiderDuck Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    According to the logic in here, Madden and Ron Wolf are idiots for recommending McKenzie to be GM.

    =============================================

    Actually, the “logic” in here says that Reggie was a multi-decade campaign to destroy the Raiders by building him up fraudulently, knowing that Mark Davis would someday hire him. This “logic” also says Denver hired DA for no other reason than knowing we’d hire him as our head guy. This was of course coordinated with Sean Payton and all of DA’s former co-workers and players giving him sterling reviews and Bill Callahan deliberately throwing that Super Bowl against the Bucs. Yes, the ENTIRE FREAKING WORLD is against us and has nothing better to do than plot against the Oakland Raiders.

  98. Dwaiders Says:

    71…. Eastoaklandraider

    I loved hue absolutely loved him. I was worried big time when he was let go. He had fire and balls.

  99. Priesttj12 Says:

    Fire sell is coming. You won’t recognize this team next year.**********************************************

    lol I don’t recognise it this year.

  100. realtruraider Says:

    You might as well start the fire DA campaign now. Because the Raiders are dug in with the WCO/ZBS.

    ——————————————————-

    I don’t know I just heard a lil of DA presser and he said we have to put our players in a position to succeed and play to what they do best, maybe just maybe he finally realized that DMC can’t get goin in the ZBS, I expect to see alot more power after the bye

  101. boss01 Says:

    The only nfl starter on defense is Wheeler everybody is would not be on an nfl practice squad even

  102. RaiderDuck Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Seymour made two plays all game……the tipped passes…that’s it…TK was invisible again

    ===========================================

    There were a number of plays where TK and Seymour were impressively blown off the point of attack and ended up approximately 21.753 light-years away from the ball…

  103. J Hill Says:

    we were screwed the min we fired hue and changed the o.

    ————————————————————-

    That’s just such a sad argument to me.

    Really????

    We are going to sit here and blame the coaches and scheme????

    Football is football!!!!

    Our RT can’t block dumberville.

    Our TE gets HAMMERED by Miller all day.

    I don’t see how any of that changes with scheme.

  104. Goldie7 Says:

    I’m watching all Raiders games and sporting Raiders gear…even if we are terrible all year long. We will become a great team someday. Never give up.

  105. Marks hair Says:

    Oh god so dumb…. i fùcking hate denver

  106. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    And Ron Wolf told Al we should trade Lachey for Schroeder…Guess what, people can be wrong too.

  107. J Hill Says:

    We had ONE WR on the field today who could get open.

    How does Hue Jackson’s offense make Hagan beat able to beat SINGLE coverage?

  108. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    hey j hill what about those denver recievers now?

    ———————————————————–

    What about them?
    ————–

    oh now you have amnesia. you said we shouldnt be worried about decker and the den receivers and i countered by saying we shouldnt of had to worry about harline in mia.

  109. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    According to the logic in here, Madden and Ron Wolf are idiots for recommending McKenzie to be GM.

    =============================================

    Actually, the “logic” in here says that Reggie was a multi-decade campaign to destroy the Raiders by building him up fraudulently, knowing that Mark Davis would someday hire him. This “logic” also says Denver hired DA for no other reason than knowing we’d hire him as our head guy. This was of course coordinated with Sean Payton and all of DA’s former co-workers and players giving him sterling reviews and Bill Callahan deliberately throwing that Super Bowl against the Bucs. Yes, the ENTIRE FREAKING WORLD is against us and has nothing better to do than plot against the Oakland Raiders.
    ——-
    LOL

  110. Marks hair Says:

    103. Review our running game from the last 2 yrs

  111. Just Win Baby Says:

    O-line= garbage.
    D-line= garbage.
    DBs = garbage.
    Tackilng = garbage.
    LB = garbage.
    WR = garbage.

    I was wrong about Manning. He only looks like he has lost a step against a legit defense. Against us, he is still Peyton Manning.

  112. omoran Says:

    What ! No consolation prize from the new Refs?
    If it looks Bad, Smells Bad and Taste Bad, its BAD!

  113. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    hey j hill what about those denver recievers now?

    ———————————————————–

    What about them?
    ————–

    oh now you have amnesia. you said we shouldnt be worried about decker and the den receivers and i countered by saying we shouldnt of had to worry about harline in mia.
    —–
    Hartline is a beast. Just ask the Arizona defense.

  114. J Hill Says:

    SnB,

    What type of impact do you expect the DTs to have against a Manning dink and dunk attack?

  115. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I was wrong about Manning. He only looks like he has lost a step against a legit defense. Against us, he is still Peyton Manning.
    ——-
    I have a feeling he is going to suck next week against Patriots. It will just make Raiders look even worse.

  116. fingers Says:

    I had high hopes for Branch… Wow… Looked slow…..but when your getting beat it makes you look slow..

  117. 2romes Says:

    Most Raider fans don’t expect the leaders to stink up this team and not be accountable. A few Raider fans want us to over look this year. Well, don’t count on me being patient when I know patience was not shown with Hue for the best interest of the Raiders. I won’t do it!!!!!!!

  118. RaiderDuck Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    SnB,

    What type of impact do you expect the DTs to have against a Manning dink and dunk attack?

    ==========================================

    They can at least seal up the inside running lanes. Since TK and Seymour are worthless against the run, they can at least RUSH THE FREAKING PASSER!!!!!!!

  119. Goldie7 Says:

    Did they study the films of how the other teams defeated the Donkeys? I bet our Coaches especially Knapp will say….Calm down people it’s a long season. lol

  120. 505raiders Says:

    front seven on the D are slow the DTs have to push the pocket and thats not happening

    seymor and tk are killing the D

    secondary sucks without question

  121. Raidernationdave Says:

    FU! I can call out whoever the *uck I want! Ahole.

    ++++++++++

    Dwaiders Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    Can’t call out certain players you have to call out everyone this whole team. No one makes plays. Poor dmac he’s all but gone do ya blame him.

  122. ray_d Says:

    If DA won’t fire Knapp he can rocks as well, start over next year, 3 out of 4 games have been embarrassing. No half time adjustments just crap

  123. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
    We had ONE WR on the field today who could get open.

    How does Hue Jackson’s offense make Hagan beat able to beat SINGLE coverage?
    ——————–
    if hue is here hagan is not i think you know that and the o would be a different o.

  124. RaiderDuck Says:

    Fingers Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    I had high hopes for Branch… Wow… Looked slow…..but when your getting beat it makes you look slow..

    ============================================

    And when Branch is constantly having to make tackles the d-line and McClain should have made 10 yards up the field, that can have an effect as well.

  125. Priesttj12 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    SnB,

    Your rants against our OLD DTs is kinda missing the point, and just really piling on your old argument.

    Our DTs are not defending the TEs.
    ===================================================
    Those DTs are the only players on the defensive roster that were “expected” to be leaders for this D.

    Another game where their presence isn’t felt.

    The lack of talent on the roster is directly related to the size of the salary cap devoted to those two.

    Seymour made two plays all game……the tipped passes…that’s it…TK was invisible again
    ***********************************************
    Jhill if you haven’t figured this guy has no freakin makes me wonder about you. SnB didn’t think we should draft DB’s high in the draft. Look at this secondary and tell me you wouldn’t draft a corner in the first 2 picks……SnB should study sewing..

  126. J Hill Says:

    oh now you have amnesia.

    ————————————————————-

    Den WRs didn’t do squat.

    Huff and Lee played a decent game.

    Huff got picked on that decker TD. Safeties should have been there to clean it up.

    Notice how Denver had 4 or 5 guys around the ball ALL THE TIME????

    Willies and Joes!!!!

  127. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Reggie gutted the secondary. That’s on him (and the DC). And you see the results. We actually HAD talent back there.

  128. 2romes Says:

    And who was eager to sign Branch? Is he living up to his contract?

  129. Raidernationdave Says:

    My dead mother could call a better game than Knapp.

    +++++++++++

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    John Madden endorsed McKenzie.

    Who should we have hired instead of Knapp?

  130. realtruraider Says:

    I guess Amy was right, he said we would lose by 5 TDs and he was pretty damn close smh

  131. DT42 Says:

    CP3 (not a system fit)will be gone. New York Jets meet your future starting QB. He will be replaced by TJ Yates (Knapp Approved). McFadden? (not a system fit). But will fit in just fine with CP3 and the Jets. He will be replaced by Houston Texans 3rd stringer Justin Forsett(Knapp Approved). Reece will be gone, DHB gone, TK, Seymour, Slo Mo, Huff, Curry, MM, Lechler, Shonasty, Houston…gone and many, many others are getting ready to be former Raiders. Wait until this team realizes that their coaches don’t want them. We will miss these “close” games. This team is a couple of games away from shutting it down. Its obvious that these players don’t fit in the long term plans of the New Regime. And they are starting to see the writing on the wall.

    And again great job DA smiling and hugging the guy who just handed this franchise its worse a$$ kicking at the hands of the Donks in the last 50 years. You made Tom Jackson’s day.

  132. rooch Says:

    Offense sucks because DA hired Knapp who decided to change the strength of this team which was the power run. The defense seems like they are getting worse every week. I know this team went 8-8 last but if Kept Hue Jax and hired a real DC this team would be in these game and not getting blown out.

  133. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    hey j hill what about those denver recievers now?

    ———————————————————–

    What about them?
    ————–

    oh now you have amnesia. you said we shouldnt be worried about decker and the den receivers and i countered by saying we shouldnt of had to worry about harline in mia.
    —–
    Hartline is a beast. Just ask the Arizona defense.
    ————–
    hartline beast? please.

  134. RaiderDuck Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Reggie gutted the secondary. That’s on him (and the DC). And you see the results. We actually HAD talent back there.

    ==========================================

    Show me any other team in the league that wouldn’t struggle with BOTH starting corners out. Nobody has that level of depth.

  135. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    OK, c’mon someone, post Knapp’s offense the first 4 games to Hue’s first 4 games.

  136. Just Win Baby Says:

    Trade deadline isn’t until what week now? Used to be week 6 but I thing that has changed.

  137. RaiderDuck Says:

    Seymour finished the game with one tackle and one assist.

    So did Jack Crawford.

    Crawford’s a fifth-rounder playing limited minutes.

    What’s Big Rich’s excuse? That trade may have been Al’s final failure.

  138. J Hill Says:

    SnB is a good Raider fan Priest.

    I’ll chop it up with him same as I will with you, bruh.

    And NO WAY I’m drafting CB with the 1st pick. OLB or S is my first pick. OL with rd 3 pick.

    Tyvon Branch gets cut if I have anything to say about it. Most overpaid player on the team.

  139. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Hartline is a beast. Just ask the Arizona defense.
    ————–
    hartline beast? please.
    ——
    250 yards receiving today.

  140. Just Win Baby Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Reggie gutted the secondary. That’s on him (and the DC). And you see the results. We actually HAD talent back there.

    ==========================================
    Chiefs fans might agrue that point with you.

  141. 505raiders Says:

    pryor should have played the 4th quarter his skill set and mobility fits this krappy scheme better than palmers

    just to see what happens palmer had no purpose on the field in the 4th

  142. DJ Johnny Says:

    Screw it. I hope they move to LA. Maybe a change of scenery would help.

    At least the LA Raiders were competitive and not a national embarrassment like this pos team.

    Screw it. Do SOMETHING…ANYTHING.

    Something major needs to happen and all Reggie does is bring in pos players from GB’s practice squad and then bring in former probowlers and sit em down.

  143. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Reggie gutted the secondary. That’s on him (and the DC). And you see the results. We actually HAD talent back there.

    ==========================================
    Chiefs fans might agrue that point with you.
    ——-
    We never had talent in the secondary. Did you forget about last season when he had worse defense in the league?

  144. Dwaiders Says:

    Raiders points scored four games in last year 111 points four games in this year 64. Scored almost double the points last year this many games in. Oh ya also 2-2. Coaching oeople coaching.

  145. omoran Says:

    Our defense kept us in the game,but got tire and fatigue from the smell in the Stadium.
    See, the Donkees fertilize their stadium turf wih Human-Donkee-Elway fertilizer!
    SO I decided to feed my cats cold Bear Battered Fish Sticks and they went directly to the
    Litter Box!

  146. rooch Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Show me any other team in the league that wouldn’t struggle with BOTH starting corners out. Nobody has that level of depth.

    ============================

    What starting corners? Those guys are back-ups themselves.

  147. TerrapinRaider Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Reggie gutted the secondary. That’s on him (and the DC). And you see the results. We actually HAD talent back there.

    ==========================================

    Show me any other team in the league that wouldn’t struggle with BOTH starting corners out. Nobody has that level of depth.

    ************************************

    Even our starters stink!

  148. Goldie7 Says:

    We need to upgrade at MLB….Serously. That position is our bread and butter. Leadership at MLB has been inconsistent nonstop.

  149. Method To My Madness Says:

    Just like the SD and Mia games…before half you kick FGs instead of tds close to goaline….from that point I knew game was over then just as I did today…Knapp has unimaginative playcalls……well I guess we just gonna have to endure a rough year….good news tho….we for sure wont lose next sunday

  150. DJ Johnny Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    SnB is a good Raider fan Priest.

    I’ll chop it up with him same as I will with you, bruh.

    And NO WAY I’m drafting CB with the 1st pick. OLB or S is my first pick. OL with rd 3 pick.

    Tyvon Branch gets cut if I have anything to say about it. Most overpaid player on the team.

    And genius Reggie decides to write him up a big long term contract. What a mastermind. Oh, and decides to keep pos Seymour…GENIUS.

  151. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priesttj,

    All those DBs that the Raiders focused on over the last 10 years…”Where are they now?”

    The Raiders get little productivity from the top end of the draft.

    Over the last 8 years….you can point to DMAC and Houston as productive top picks over the last 10 years.

    This roster was stitched together and Al Davis did what he had to find talent somewhere.

    But the draft is where you get homegrown impact players….the Raiders have struck out here.

  152. lefty12 Says:

    Complaining about the offense?You can’t win with that defense we have and anyone in their right mind wouldn’t blame the coaches.We’ve sucked on defense for years.It is time to acknowledge that the players just suck.Same players,new coaches,new system=same results.At least that slug 55 was finally benched.Hope he stays there.

  153. Goldie7 Says:

    Our defense kept us in the game,but got tire and fatigue from the smell in the Stadium.
    See, the Donkees fertilize their stadium turf wih Human-Donkee-Elway fertilizer!
    SO I decided to feed my cats cold Bear Battered Fish Sticks and they went directly to the
    Litter Box!
    ****************************************************
    lol…I knew it was something wrong.

  154. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    If Reggie keeps Routt and Wimbley…who goes away?

    Because there was no way to pay them and still have a roster to put together

  155. Method To My Madness Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    Screw it. I hope they move to LA. Maybe a change of scenery would help.

    At least the LA Raiders were competitive and not a national embarrassment like this pos team.

    Screw it. Do SOMETHING…ANYTHING.

    Something major needs to happen and all Reggie does is bring in pos players from GB’s practice squad and then bring in former probowlers and sit em down.
    ***********************

    The quitter spirit that we see with the Raiders started in LA…no thanks….fire Reggie,Allen,Tarver,Hoffman and Knapp

  156. Priesttj12 Says:

    SnB is a is a good Raider who know his arse from his hand. Jhill anyone who wouldn’t draft a corner on this defense is demented. LB’s are gettable late corners aren’t, remember that. LB’s IMO should be gotten after the 2nd rnd you get you Dlineman and secondary early edge rusher are a premium in EVERY draft.

  157. realtruraider Says:

    We never had talent in the secondary. Did you forget about last season when he had worse defense in the league?

    ——————————————————-

    No we had the worse defense in Raiders history not the worse in the league, but we are on pace to blow that record out of the water

  158. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    oh now you have amnesia.

    ————————————————————-

    Den WRs didn’t do squat.

    Huff and Lee played a decent game.

    Huff got picked on that decker TD. Safeties should have been there to clean it up.

    Notice how Denver had 4 or 5 guys around the ball ALL THE TIME????

    Willies and Joes!!!!
    —————-
    sounds like excuses to me. this d is just as bad as last year. your “MAD SCIENTIST” Tarver sucks as well if your scared to blitz just because its manning out there your a puzzy and need to go be a db coach or sumthn.

  159. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Everyone who watches or even knows a little about football can see that the Raiders have regressed (horribly) so far under the new regime. If you don’t see it you are in denial. The offense is almost horrible. The only thing saving it is fewer penalties.

  160. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah Johnny…going into LA with mountains of cocaine and plastic hookers all day sure will help this team lol

  161. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    Complaining about the offense?You can’t win with that defense we have and anyone in their right mind wouldn’t blame the coaches.We’ve sucked on defense for years.It is time to acknowledge that the players just suck.Same players,new coaches,new system=same results.At least that slug 55 was finally benched.Hope he stays there.
    =================================================
    Yup — can only put out so much masking tape.

    Also, consider the injuries too and you have a disaster.

  162. chappy23us Says:

    Fire Knapp!!! It has taken him 4 weeks to render DMAC useless. Aside from that big run last week DMAC has been MIA all season. I’ve seen enough from Knapp this season/his prior stint as OC to realize that he is not helping us. Use the bye week to install Al Saunders’ offense and allow DMAC to run wild once again

  163. Just Win Baby Says:

    Atlanta’s LB could cover a TE. Our safeties cant even cover a TE. Our LBs couldn’t cover ANYONE. Just terrible. That’s why Atlanta wins and we lose. Pittsburgh must be really horrible to lose to this squad.

  164. Method To My Madness Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    Everyone who watches or even knows a little about football can see that the Raiders have regressed (horribly) so far under the new regime. If you don’t see it you are in denial. The offense is almost horrible. The only thing saving it is fewer penalties.
    ********************************

    Yeah but we will hear excuses that we are doing something new and all that schit lol

  165. J Hill Says:

    Reggie gutted the secondary.

    ————————————————————

    Who else besides Routt got the boot?

  166. RaiderDuck Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    If Reggie keeps Routt and Wimbley…who goes away?

    Because there was no way to pay them and still have a roster to put together

    =================================================

    Those two were prime examples of Al’s “Pay an OK player elite money and he’ll BECOME elite” philosophy. See also Kelly, Tommy.

  167. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    Just like the SD and Mia games…before half you kick FGs instead of tds close to goaline….from that point I knew game was over then just as I did today…Knapp has unimaginative playcalls……well I guess we just gonna have to endure a rough year….good news tho….we for sure wont lose next sunday
    ——–
    Yeah, that and Allen not challenging that 3rd down catch by Moore. Knapp’s play calling has been confounding in the Red Zone.

  168. rooch Says:

    Only people from LA would want the Raiders to move back there. The Oakland Raiders belong in Oakland.

  169. Priesttj12 Says:

    In every draft corners and pass rushers is what you look 4 FIRST. Then DT LB’s and safeties because those guys can be gotten corners and DE are hard to find………….period

    Jhill you should know that by now.

  170. DJ Johnny Says:

    DA is a pathetic azz kissing hick.

    Worst team in the league and it’s not even close.

    Way to go loser.

  171. Goldie7 Says:

    I know Shannon Sharpe was soooo goofy happy over this win…like the Donkeys are giving him part ownership of the team or something.

  172. Dwaiders Says:

    Raiders have sucked for awhile and why is that because good coaches don’t want to coach here. So we get stuck with cable, kiffin, etc. good coaches coach players to there strengths put there team in a situation to succeed we haven’t had that.

  173. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    STill comes down to making plays.

    Players gotta make plays….what if Goodson had picked up that blitz giving Carson time to hit DMoore in the end zone….what if someone on the D-Line came up with a timely sack….

    Something….you can’t go through games with no-one making a play…just making a special play…forcing a turnover, making an acrobatic catch, a key block…

    The Raiders just went through the motions today…and maybe you can put the lack of energy at the feet of DA and the coaches…..

    Also, DA should have challenged that DMoore catch…that missed call jacked up the game

  174. boss01 Says:

    the players Reggie brought in are downright pathetic, and I don’t wanna hear about the money issue, bottom line is he let go of the wrong players and kept the wrong ones in Seymour and Kelly…this team is unwatchable

  175. Method To My Madness Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    oh now you have amnesia.

    ————————————————————-

    Den WRs didn’t do squat.

    Huff and Lee played a decent game.

    Huff got picked on that decker TD. Safeties should have been there to clean it up.

    Notice how Denver had 4 or 5 guys around the ball ALL THE TIME????

    Willies and Joes!!!!
    —————-
    sounds like excuses to me. this d is just as bad as last year. your “MAD SCIENTIST” Tarver sucks as well if your scared to blitz just because its manning out there your a puzzy and need to go be a db coach or sumthn.
    **************************************

    Agreed…Tarver is in over his head bruh

    And what about your stuff of A’s not making postseason? lol

  176. TerrapinRaider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Reggie gutted the secondary.

    ————————————————————

    Who else besides Routt got the boot?

    *************************

    We had Routt, “Toast” Johnson, DVD and Chekwa …at least 2 of them were better than the current starters and combined they are all better than that crap we have out there now!

  177. Just Win Baby Says:

    The ZBS works well if you have the right players to run it.(see Denver). Our ol doesnt buy into it and it shows. I would scrap the ZBS here too. These guys aren’t suddenly going to ‘get it’. At least Marcel Reece was good today. too bad nobody had his back.

  178. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    Hartline is a beast. Just ask the Arizona defense.
    ————–
    hartline beast? please.
    ——
    250 yards receiving today.
    ———-

    the sun shines on a dogs ass every now an then.

  179. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Cundiff 0-3 today. Gets a chance to win game.

  180. Method To My Madness Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    If Reggie keeps Routt and Wimbley…who goes away?

    Because there was no way to pay them and still have a roster to put together

    =================================================

    Those two were prime examples of Al’s “Pay an OK player elite money and he’ll BECOME elite” philosophy. See also Kelly, Tommy.
    *****************************

    Ask the bloggers who wanted to challenge me all the offseason that kelly was so great

  181. TerrapinRaider Says:

    And Huff was suppose to convert to CB after an offseason of seasoning …never happened ..now he’s in there like fresh meat.

  182. J Hill Says:

    secondary early edge rusher are a premium in EVERY draft.

    ————————————————————–

    Like I said …

    OLB or S with the first pick.

    Glad we agree.

  183. Dwaiders Says:

    Priest….. All for getting a solid corner. A good corner are two can change the entire defense.

  184. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    the sun shines on a dogs ass every now an then.
    ——
    Twice in four games.

  185. boss01 Says:

    Not one punt forced all day by the defense all day, as far as I’m concerned their game checks should bounce

  186. Try Some Reality Says:

    So much for scheme improving the D.

    #FAIL

  187. Method To My Madness Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    The ZBS works well if you have the right players to run it.(see Denver). Our ol doesnt buy into it and it shows. I would scrap the ZBS here too. These guys aren’t suddenly going to ‘get it’. At least Marcel Reece was good today. too bad nobody had his back.
    ******************

    ZBS is for sissies…why you think Wiz left?

  188. fingers Says:

    I was way wrong about the defense… Didn’t think they could be as bad as last year… Might even be worse …

  189. Goldie7 Says:

    I hope Steve asks Coach why didn’t he challenge the D. Moore catch. We needed that first down really badly.

  190. lefty12 Says:

    DJ,put down the computer,go grab a paper bag,take a few deep breaths into it and chill.When you get this upset you talk out of the orifice that the sun never sees.

  191. boss01 Says:

    The only talent Seymour and Kelly have left is cashing big time game checks

  192. J Hill Says:

    your “MAD SCIENTIST” Tarver

    ————————————————————-

    “MY” Mad scientist???

    When did Tarve become MY boy????

    I think he deserves WAY more heat than Knapp.

  193. rooch Says:

    It’s only week 4 but the way this team is regressing they might have gotten their only win of the season last week and that was on accident.

  194. Raider E Says:

    DON’T FOOL YOURSELVES…. THESE GUYS SUCK…. I DONT EVEN SEE A BRIGHT…. ALL YOU REGGIE LOVER CAN KISS A CHODE…. REGGIE HAS MADE THEM WORSE….NLO DOUBT….BRING BACK AL….

  195. TheBay2LA Says:

    And the real Raiders have stood up! Well, I think incase you guys didn’t know, our defense is woeful. Our offensive production isn’t good enough to dig us out of a hole. Hard to watch today. what happened to Dmac?

  196. Method To My Madness Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    the players Reggie brought in are downright pathetic, and I don’t wanna hear about the money issue, bottom line is he let go of the wrong players and kept the wrong ones in Seymour and Kelly…this team is unwatchable
    ***********************

    Hey….Reggie gets paid big bucks so obviously he knows what he is doing…you are just lowly follower like all of us…what do you know? lol

  197. RaiderDuck Says:

    List of Things that Need to Happen (some will, most won’t):

    1. Replace Carlisle with Bergstrom. Can’t be any worse.
    2. Replace Kelly and Seymour with Bilukidi and Bryant. See #1.
    3. Replace Knapp as the playcaller with Saunders.
    4. Offer Alex Gibbs big $$$ to come in as a “Offensive Consultant”/de facto o-line coach. The ZBS can work, but Frank Pollack’s doing a horrible job teaching it.
    5. Give Goodson more carries. If he produces better than DMac, give him even more carries.
    6. Get Pryor on the field. Nothing against Palmer (he and the receivers have been the lone bright spots), but he won’t be around when this rebuild is done. Might as well see if TP is the quarterback of the future or not.
    7. Let DA know he has another season, but we’d better seen some gawddam improvement both in the team’s preparedness and the offensive playcalling.

  198. Just Win Baby Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    The ZBS works well if you have the right players to run it.(see Denver). Our ol doesnt buy into it and it shows. I would scrap the ZBS here too. These guys aren’t suddenly going to ‘get it’. At least Marcel Reece was good today. too bad nobody had his back.
    ******************

    ZBS is for sissies…why you think Wiz left?
    =====================================
    We just got the ZBS pounded up our azzes all day long.

  199. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    oh now you have amnesia.

    ————————————————————-

    Den WRs didn’t do squat.

    Huff and Lee played a decent game.

    Huff got picked on that decker TD. Safeties should have been there to clean it up.

    Notice how Denver had 4 or 5 guys around the ball ALL THE TIME????

    Willies and Joes!!!!
    —————-
    sounds like excuses to me. this d is just as bad as last year. your “MAD SCIENTIST” Tarver sucks as well if your scared to blitz just because its manning out there your a puzzy and need to go be a db coach or sumthn.
    **************************************

    Agreed…Tarver is in over his head bruh

    And what about your stuff of A’s not making postseason? lol
    —————–

    whats good meth. thats cool the A’s made but we will be out in first round and dont think i’m a hater I love the A’S too but we just dont have the horses we were much better with frank thomas teams and the mulder hudson zito teams and still couldnt get it done. this team is crap compared to those teams we just played over our head this season.

  200. J Hill Says:

    Make no mistake about it EastOak …

    This soft arsee zone we are running is the #1 issue in my crosshairs.

  201. omoran Says:

    What made us so good last year and score 35pts per game -Saunder. Knapp be patient it ll work theory is not workkng

    When are they going to see this, at the End of the Season.?
    Last year wd were 8-8 and nearly made the.Playoffs.
    Our Offensive line looked good even to CLAYTON in ESPN.

  202. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    DJ,put down the computer,go grab a paper bag,take a few deep breaths into it and chill.When you get this upset you talk out of the orifice that the sun never sees.
    *****************************

    HAHAHAHA OG funny

  203. raidertalk Says:

    Code Rebuild!

  204. RaiderDuck Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    The only talent Seymour and Kelly have left is cashing big time game checks

    ==============================================

    Kelly: No tackles, no sacks, three assists. Disgusting.

  205. Raider E Says:

    WHY DO THEYB WASTE THE MONEY FLYING THE DEFENSE TO GAMES? I COULD GO OUT THERE AND RUN SLOW, MISS TACKLES, AND TAKE UP SPACE…. THESE GUYS SUCK….

  206. lefty12 Says:

    BTW,A’s win again.The division is possible!!!!!!!!

  207. Just Win Baby Says:

    One last thing…..Darren McFadden is a lousy pass blocking RB. Seriously bad.

  208. raidertalk Says:

    Code Next Year!

  209. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    your “MAD SCIENTIST” Tarver

    ————————————————————-

    “MY” Mad scientist???

    When did Tarve become MY boy????

    I think he deserves WAY more heat than Knapp.
    ————
    that wasnt directed at you j but all the others here who tabbed him “MAD SCIENTIST” preseason

  210. raidertalk Says:

    Code Draft Picks!

  211. realtruraider Says:

    197

    I only agree with #3 and I would rather have Bergstrom replace the weaklink on the line that is Briesel

  212. 2romes Says:

    Where is all the attention to details that Reggie and DA were going to bring to the Raiders? Have we at least seen that from the Raiders. I have not see it.

  213. Method To My Madness Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    The ZBS works well if you have the right players to run it.(see Denver). Our ol doesnt buy into it and it shows. I would scrap the ZBS here too. These guys aren’t suddenly going to ‘get it’. At least Marcel Reece was good today. too bad nobody had his back.
    ******************

    ZBS is for sissies…why you think Wiz left?
    =====================================
    We just got the ZBS pounded up our azzes all day long.
    *****************************

    LOL they running peyton offense…thats not zbs is it?

  214. raidertalk Says:

    After four games that coordinator has been down right offensive

  215. Just Win Baby Says:

    DA worked wonders with Denver’s D last season, but he had something then that he doesnt have now. Talent.

  216. J Hill Says:

    Players gotta make plays….what if Goodson had picked up that blitz giving Carson time to hit DMoore in the end zone….what if someone on the D-Line came up with a timely sack….

    Something….you can’t go through games with no-one making a play…just making a special play…forcing a turnover, making an acrobatic catch, a key block…

    —————————————————————

    And ther it is.

  217. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The O-line is not physical enough….Period.

  218. Raider E Says:

    BTW,A’s win again.The division is possible!!!!!!!!

    ————————

    IM WITH YOU LEFTY, AT LEAST THE A’S CAN SHOW UP AND COMPETE….RAIDERS SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK….

  219. Marks hair Says:

    Throw in the towel draft geno smith

  220. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Events that happened and my reaction

    Firing Hue – red flag
    Hiring Knapp – nuclear red flag
    Gutting CBs – red flag

    Since this regime came in I’ve watched dumb decision after dumb decision and I knew going into the season this was going to be a nightmare. I knew the 2ndary was going to be a major weakness of this defense. I knew the offense was going to suck major azz. And its all coming true. Dumb decision after dumb decision.

  221. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    BTW,A’s win again.The division is possible!!!!!!!!
    **********************

    They are winning it this wednesday afternoon…wish i could be there

  222. RaiderDuck Says:

    As for Tarver: Hard to judge when he’s stuck with Kelly and Seymour (who have turned into slugs who show up for maybe a half-dozen snaps all game) and a secondary crippled with injuries.

    He was a co-DC at Stanford and DA’s fifth or sixth choice; it was either Tarver or Greg Manusky, because all of DA’s main choices (Bill Johnson, Joe Vitt Jr., etc) were denied permission to leave by their teams.

    Tarver’s a bright one, but it’ll take time.

  223. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    Make no mistake about it EastOak …

    This soft arsee zone we are running is the #1 issue in my crosshairs.
    —————

    all this dont blitz because its manning or big ben is crap pats steelers or any dc with sum nuts blitzes manning and it gets him off track.

  224. lefty12 Says:

    Kelly had at least 1 tackle-I saw it.

  225. Just Win Baby Says:

    At least we still have a great punter. smh

  226. Priesttj12 Says:

    How many of you who were glad to see Bush gone are havingv second thought?

  227. ohioraider Says:

    They’re gonna tweak the offense. Guarantee it.

  228. J Hill Says:

    Kelly, Seymour, and McClain????

    What about Branch, Houston, and ShoNicely???????!!!!!????!!

  229. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    We’ve been complaining about Cooper Carlisle for a while…he’s a backup at this point in his career.

    Briesel….looks like a bad pickup Reggie.

    And we knew damn well we had no Right Tackle going in with Barnes and the failure of guys like Bruce Campbell, Barksdale and others to seize the job.

    You have Veldheer and Wiz…..that’t not enough

  230. redshirt Says:

    Mark Purdy rates Oakland Raiders’ performance vs. Broncos
    ************

    LOL anything above an F+ is straight ridiculous

  231. Marks hair Says:

    Code better in 2014.. maybe

  232. J Hill Says:

    Kelly had at least 1 tackle-I saw it.

    ————————————————————-

    LOL

  233. Method To My Madness Says:

    EastOak….you are wrong…A’s hit way better than those teams with better speed and better defense…Hudson was cool…fk zito and mulder, i never liked them. A’s are the team no one wants to play in postseason….we gonna cause much issues for teams this october

  234. J Hill Says:

    Bush????

    How would he have helped us today, Priest?

  235. redshirt Says:

    MCKENZIE = WORST GM IN ALL PRO SPORTS…

  236. Raider E Says:

    BUSH AIN’T GONNA SOLVE THIS MESS PRIEST…. THESE GUYS ALL SUCK….

  237. nyraider Says:

    what sucks is we were 8-8 last year and so close to making the playoffs. Now our season ended in september

  238. Method To My Madness Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    DA worked wonders with Denver’s D last season, but he had something then that he doesnt have now. Talent.
    *******************

    Excuses

  239. omoran Says:

    If we can see this coming,then why can they not see it.?
    We can turn it around next game and we have 12 games to do
    it.Remove Knapp, put Saunder OF and with better Defense now than last year we R Back!

  240. lefty12 Says:

    219-another ignorant comment.QB isn’t really a position of need like DE,LB,CB,Safety,or OL.

  241. Marks hair Says:

    Knapp is crap

  242. eastoaklandraider Says:

    if we just could have kept hue we could have outscored the donkeys period. the best d is a good o.

  243. Kirk Says:

    Knapp and McClain are awful.

  244. DKnight007 Says:

    I told you all…F**K Knapp!

    Why did McK allow DA to overhaul the offense when it didn’t need to be changed??

    Stupid!

  245. Priesttj12 Says:

    Since this regime came in I’ve watched dumb decision after dumb decision and I knew going into the season this was going to be a nightmare. I knew the 2ndary was going to be a major weakness of this defense. I knew the offense was going to suck major azz. And its all coming true. Dumb decision after dumb decision.
    ****************************************************

    TerrapinRaider

    I think you and I are the only ones who actually voiced these concerns early on. Everyone else was all over Reggie like he was giving out free money. Like he and the new HC were miracle workers.

  246. nyraider Says:

    why is pryor not active. a couple of plays with him could actually breathe some life into this dead team

  247. Kirk Says:

    Not a single misdirection play run the entire game.

    Fire Knapp.

  248. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Why do you think TerrapinRaider was absentee all offseason? I could see this train wreck coming a mile away. Just awful decisions about a team that was on the cusp …it made no sense to me and the weak spots were too obvious.

  249. DKnight007 Says:

    And the defense was back to being a base 4-3 vanilla defense today.

    I thought DA and Tarver were supposed change this D in a “multiple” D??

  250. Marks hair Says:

    240. Bye the time we are good at all those spots cp3 will be done. Your ignorant

  251. Kirk Says:

    First pick in the draft here we come.

  252. RaiderDuck Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    I told you all…F**K Knapp!

    Why did McK allow DA to overhaul the offense when it didn’t need to be changed??

    Stupid!

    ====================================

    Because Reggie stated the new coach could pick his own assistants and implement his own game plan. DA has done so, and therefore has full accountability, for better or worse.

  253. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    DA worked wonders with Denver’s D last season, but he had something then that he doesnt have now. Talent.

    =====

    What wonders? Weren’t they in the bottom 3rd in points allowed?

  254. lefty12 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    DA worked wonders with Denver’s D last season, but he had something then that he doesnt have now. Talent.
    *******************

    Excuses
    ===============
    Not really,just lack of talent.

  255. Method To My Madness Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    what sucks is we were 8-8 last year and so close to making the playoffs. Now our season ended in september
    ***********************

    Wrong….it ended in March when Knapp was hired as OC…blog blasted me for negative remarks….well what do yall think now?

  256. nyraider Says:

    anyone miss the man to man D?

  257. DKnight007 Says:

    Did you guys see how bad Knapps designs were of those “screen” plays??

    Laughably bad!

  258. RaiderDuck Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    And the defense was back to being a base 4-3 vanilla defense today.

    I thought DA and Tarver were supposed change this D in a “multiple” D??

    ============================================

    No nose tackle, and super-thin linebacking depth.

  259. nyraider Says:

    no need for plax, we got streater, criner and hagen..lol

  260. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    DA worked wonders with Denver’s D last season, but he had something then that he doesnt have now. Talent.
    *******************

    Excuses
    ===============
    Not really,just lack of talent.
    ****************

    DA is head coach…he is over all facets of the game….he is failing miserably…he doesnt get a fkin pass Leftster

  261. Raider E Says:

    EastOak….you are wrong…A’s hit way better than those teams with better speed and better defense…Hudson was cool…fk zito and mulder, i never liked them. A’s are the team no one wants to play in postseason….we gonna cause much issues for teams this october

    ——————–

    A’S PLAY WITH THE LONGBALL OFFENSE, THEY HAVE SET A RECORD FOR STRIKEOUTS THIS SEASON PLAYBOY….I’M ROOTING FOR MY A’S THOUGH…. ALL DAY, EVERYDAY….

  262. DJ Johnny Says:

    Am I overreacting when I say this is the worst team in the league?

    NO!

    What good could possibly be said about this game? Worst defeat by Denver since 1962, DMAC gets 34 yards, the defense is actually worse than last yr. and we have 4-0 Atlanta in two weeks.

    Am I missing something?

  263. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Listen, I don’t care who you bring in to play this offense. Knapp sucks! So what? We may win a game here or there but we will suck as long as he is here! Period!

  264. RaiderDuck Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    anyone miss the man to man D?

    =========================================

    No. Peyton would have shredded last year’s Routt and CJ defense just as badly, if not worse.

  265. Method To My Madness Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    no need for plax, we got streater, criner and hagen..lol
    *****************************

    Yeah sure helps while we have Knapp not using him correctly as well

  266. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.

    Say what you want but in the last two years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.

    Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.

    Now we are 3 years backwards

  267. Marks hair Says:

    Knapps worse than i remember

  268. lefty12 Says:

    Come on Mark,I read your comments all the time.That definition fits you to a tee.

  269. J Hill Says:

    well what do yall think now?

    ————————————————————

    We think you should’ve warned us about Tarver and this soft arsse zone.

  270. boss01 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    the players Reggie brought in are downright pathetic, and I don’t wanna hear about the money issue, bottom line is he let go of the wrong players and kept the wrong ones in Seymour and Kelly…this team is unwatchable
    ***********************

    Hey….Reggie gets paid big bucks so obviously he knows what he is doing…you are just lowly follower like all of us…what do you know? lol

    =======================

    I know I am watching the least competitive raider team since 06 after going 8-8 2 years in a row….some would call that a team on the verge of turning the corner…unless you hire a dumb GM that turns chicken salad into chicken schitt of course

  271. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    How many of you who were glad to see Bush gone are havingv second thought?
    ————————————————-
    I wasn’t happy to see Bush go at all….however, I am not sure how he would be helping this team right now.

    Goodson is “good enough” for backup duty.

    The issue with the offense is soft-touch o-lineman

  272. ohioraider Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Since this regime came in I’ve watched dumb decision after dumb decision and I knew going into the season this was going to be a nightmare. I knew the 2ndary was going to be a major weakness of this defense. I knew the offense was going to suck major azz. And its all coming true. Dumb decision after dumb decision.
    ****************************************************

    TerrapinRaider

    I think you and I are the only ones who actually voiced these concerns early on. Everyone else was all over Reggie like he was giving out free money. Like he and the new HC were miracle workers.
    ——————————————
    You may be right, and in that case what we have is complete continuity. Only Al made his dumb decisions out of hubris and stubbornness, while McKenzie is making decisions probably out of desperation.

  273. Priesttj12 Says:

    Bush may not have helped today but don’t tell me he couldn’t have helped at all this year. And would make a huge difference thoughout the year. The ZBS is fine for Bush has always played well in it. Unlike the other guy.

  274. Raiders for life Says:

    101.boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    The only nfl starter on defense is Wheeler everybody is would not be on an nfl practice squad even

    #########################

    Did you look at the stats before you posted that???????????

  275. DJ Johnny Says:

    I would take Bresnahans 3-3-4 defense over this embarrassment of a squad.

  276. RaiderDuck Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    no need for plax, we got streater, criner and hagen..lol

    ===========================================

    As if Plaxico Burress would have made the o-line open holes for DMac, DMac accurately hit the holes that WERE there, toughened up our run defense, given us a pass rush, or made our corners cover anyone.

  277. da trinity Says:

    The sad reality is the raiders are gonna tank this season. I’m not in the fire DA or Big Reggie band wagon. This first few games have shown me that the raiders are just going to use this season to see who fits and who doesn’t fit. It’s sad to see a player like Dmc being ineffective due to the scheme we are playing. Like it or not peeps, Knapp might be around next year. I feel he does make some dumb play call like that stupid sweep that Miller blew up but how can you fault him when the oline is getting man handled. I mean dam, Carson is getting killed. No lose this year will surprise me. My hope for season ended in Miami. I’m still gonna watch every game but I can’t see us doing better then 8-8. 6-10 is looking like a reality. And BTW, I want mclain to succeed but man he sucked this game

  278. Raider E Says:

    THESE DUDES PLAY LIKE SH*T PERIOD. DONT TELL ME ABOUT COACHES OR WHATEVER….TRUTH….THEY SUCK

  279. J Hill Says:

    HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here.

    ————————————————————-

    Isn’t it pretty likely that Hue would have dumped the same players that ended up getting dumped?

  280. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    anyone miss the man to man D?
    =======================================================
    Do not have the talent to run that.

    C’mon

  281. Method To My Madness Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    Why do you think TerrapinRaider was absentee all offseason? I could see this train wreck coming a mile away. Just awful decisions about a team that was on the cusp …it made no sense to me and the weak spots were too obvious.
    *****************************

    Yep…i feel ya mayne….from DA being hired to Knapp…and draft was especially horrible in that fact you didnt draft a young NT or look for a speed demon at RDE…I wanted to stop the negative posts but real football guys knew we were fked

  282. qodrn1 Says:

    Ouch.

    Best sports clip of the day: the A’s manager reacting to the Ryder Cup.

    He asked the sports writers how it went; he really thought the writers were kidding when they told him.

    Go Angels:

    Oh yeah: The Raiders:

    Tuesday is tryout day…..

    Interesting our worst third quarters were in Miami (heat, humidity) and Denver (elevation). I do believe that if Condo had not been clocked the Raiders would be 2-2.

  283. nyraider Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    no need for plax, we got streater, criner and hagen..lol

    ===========================================

    As if Plaxico Burress would have made the o-line open holes for DMac, DMac accurately hit the holes that WERE there, toughened up our run defense, given us a pass rush, or made our corners cover anyone.
    ————————–
    he would have helped on 3rd down and in redzone. we are throwing corner routes to ausberry from the 4 yrd line..lol..yes we have other problems but our Wrs except for dmoore are a joke.

  284. Marks hair Says:

    Its a full rebulid.. all that matters is finding franchise passrushers and a qb.. the rest is filler . Fire knapp

  285. J Hill Says:

    Hue was going to bring in a DC that would have started Huff at corner from day 1.

    Do I need to look back and see if any of the Huff @ corner bashers are pro Hue???

  286. Method To My Madness Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    Bush may not have helped today but don’t tell me he couldn’t have helped at all this year. And would make a huge difference thoughout the year. The ZBS is fine for Bush has always played well in it. Unlike the other guy.
    ****************************8

    ZBS sucks…and so does your boy Farglass…oh yeah where is he at now?

  287. DKnight007 Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
    Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.

    Say what you want but in the last two years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.

    Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.

    Now we are 3 years backwards

    ^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

    It’s sad!

    I thought Knapps offense was supposed to move the pocket more with bootlegs and rollouts??

    Knapp couldn’t that his OLine and QB were getting killed…..so why didn’t he move the pocket to buy Palmer more time??

    Knapp is an idiot and DA and Tarver showed their inexperience today. Terrible!

  288. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here.

    ————————————————————-

    Isn’t it pretty likely that Hue would have dumped the same players that ended up getting dumped?
    ======================================================
    He would have had no choice….just like Reggie. Someone has to go….does anyone remember how much over the cap they were?

    Look, I don’t like the ZBS either. I thought the team should have pulled an up and comer from the Giants staff…..but this is the direction they chose.

    ZBS is here to stay…they don’t have the o-line to pull it off…barely have the o-line to pull of anything…those guys are struggling with pass protection and getting nothing done in the run game

  289. Raider E Says:

    Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.

    Say what you want but in the last two years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.

    Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.

    Now we are 3 years backwards

    ———————–

    SO TRUE….RAIDER ON….

  290. TheBay2LA Says:

    Don’t worry guys, Reggie’s going to have ex-packers Al Harris and Ryan Grant in for workouts this week to try and “make the team better”

  291. Kirk Says:

    Good news….we will get a first round pick this year and it will be a good one.

  292. Method To My Madness Says:

    Ervin Santana you suck…had a 4 run lead now its 6-4….send this bum away!….damn Angels

  293. Priesttj12 Says:

    You may be right, and in that case what we have is complete continuity. Only Al made his dumb decisions out of hubris and stubbornness, while McKenzie is making decisions probably out of desperation.
    ****************************************************
    Reggie can’t carry Big Al’s jock………..and probably never will. He’s green as grass and doesn’t know the league. Other GM’s don’t respect him. He has no cache no credit and no pull. He’s got a lot to learn and it shows, why in hell would you get a rookie coahc knowing you’re a rookie GM? it smacks of arrogance and based on what???

  294. DKnight007 Says:

    A’s are awesome and Raiders suck!

    A’s last three games of season are meaningful fellas!

    Coliseum should be sold out the next 3 days.

    A’s are battling for the division baby!

  295. nyraider Says:

    why be upset? Reggie is building the best practice squad in the NFL!!

  296. omoran Says:

    You can blog this to ALLEN and REGGIE – RAIDERNATION
    Remove Knapp-put Saunder -35pts Offensive line.
    Tarver Defense is better 10-15 pts at half time always.
    Kicking team looks good, and with all the new players and better everything , they will win again!

  297. boss01 Says:

    We all knew the defense needed a complete makeover from last year…some here blamed Chuck B but now the same Chuck B haters are hate’n on Tarver…

    But what does Reggie do? brings in two injury prone CB’s who are 2nd tier and didn’t even last a week, then he gets rid of the only pass rusher and brings in who? Phillip Wheeler who up until today I was impressed with his all hawking, but he was no pass rusher to begin with.

    He keeps those two bums Seymour and Kelly who are making out like gangbusters cashing those game checks and what else does he do? Nothing, absolutely nothing to address the defense other than Miles Burris…

    What he should have done is get rid of the dead weight overpaid bums like Seymour, Kelly and that BUST of a joke McClain.

    But oh well, he gets paid the big bucks, was recommended by Ron Wolf and John Madden, and won over an incompetent owner, he obviously knows what he is doing

  298. AmysInCharge Says:

    Dont fret over that Faider football guys,..the bay area is in good hands,..Niners represent!!! ;)

  299. Method To My Madness Says:

    Huff is the softest player ever to be on Raiders…without a doubt…guy is the worse defensive player ever…I’d rather have Anthony Dorsett

  300. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I mean in the last ten years only 2 coaches were right 4 raiders. Jon Gruden / Hue jack city

  301. RaiderDuck Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Why in hell would you get a rookie coach knowing you’re a rookie GM? it smacks of arrogance and based on what???

    =========================================

    Okay, fill us in. Who would you have hired as head coach? Names, please.

  302. TheBay2LA Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
    You may be right, and in that case what we have is complete continuity. Only Al made his dumb decisions out of hubris and stubbornness, while McKenzie is making decisions probably out of desperation.
    ****************************************************
    Reggie can’t carry Big Al’s jock………..and probably never will. He’s green as grass and doesn’t know the league. Other GM’s don’t respect him. He has no cache no credit and no pull. He’s got a lot to learn and it shows, why in hell would you get a rookie coahc knowing you’re a rookie GM? it smacks of arrogance and based on what???

    This may be a really good point in terms of both being green. I think having a veteran coach might have led to an undermining if Reggie.

  303. Method To My Madness Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Dont fret over that Faider football guys,..the bay area is in good hands,..Niners represent!!!
    ********************8

    Yep I agree bob

    Knapp=49er
    Tarver= 49er

    No wonder we are 3-1 in first place in the AFC WEST lol

  304. Just Win Baby Says:

    Am I alone in thinking this bye week couldn’t have come at a better time?

  305. Raiderbuck Says:

    Well jeeze everyone, it wasn’t all that bad,….

    BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!

    Okay it was!

    Time for a change of plan. Patience can kiss my a$$. Knapp MUST go, Tarver MUST go, they are completely inept and a 4 year old can tell that.

  306. Marks hair Says:

    FIRE KNAPP OUT OF A CANNON STRAIGHT INTO TO BAY!

  307. DJ Johnny Says:

    The Raiders should stay in Oakland but the people of Oakland and the Raider Nation in general deserve better than this crap.

  308. DKnight007 Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
    You may be right, and in that case what we have is complete continuity. Only Al made his dumb decisions out of hubris and stubbornness, while McKenzie is making decisions probably out of desperation.
    ****************************************************
    Reggie can’t carry Big Al’s jock………..and probably never will. He’s green as grass and doesn’t know the league. Other GM’s don’t respect him. He has no cache no credit and no pull. He’s got a lot to learn and it shows, why in hell would you get a rookie coahc knowing you’re a rookie GM? it smacks of arrogance and based on what???

    ^^^^^^^
    That was Mark and Reggies big screw up!

    They didn’t properly evaluate the how important Hue’s offense was and all that was needed was to fix the D.

    Now the team is going backwards instead of forward.

    Sad!

  309. 505raiders Says:

    you take the run game you take out the raiders

    dungover was overplaying the run until we were in a position where we had to pass

    mcfadden could have cutback a few times but he seems to be looking for holes that are not there

  310. J Hill Says:

    I’d rather have Anthony Dorsett

    ————————————————————

    SMH

  311. nyraider Says:

    Guaranteed Big Wiz saw this coming when he left. Our Oline went from good to bad very quick.

  312. TheBay2LA Says:

    I look forward to reading Omorans take on the game, more so then anything Corkran posts after the ensuing 1k posts!! At least Omorans posts will bring a good chuckle!

  313. lefty12 Says:

    Well,at least alias and his array of sock puppets are enjoying today.Go A’s,Go Raiders.

  314. Just Win Baby Says:

    And Reggie’s 4 games as a GM aren’t why this team sucks. He still has to purge Davis ‘talent’ and replace them with football players. Cant do it all in one offseason. He inherited a true clusterphuck.

  315. omoran Says:

    Our Offense is Killing our boys at Defense!
    Can anyone out there tell.ALLEN TARVER and REGGIE
    Some Please!

  316. DKnight007 Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    why be upset? Reggie is building the best practice squad in the NFL!!

    ^^^^^^
    My bro was saying the same thing! LOL!

    Manning was playing his practice squad today!

    LMAO! Terrible!

  317. AmysInCharge Says:

    Nobody listened to Brien back in the Spring,..he nailed it,..said Knapp would be the death of the Raiders,…hey bro we got the A`s at least!!! :)

  318. Method To My Madness Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    We all knew the defense needed a complete makeover from last year…some here blamed Chuck B but now the same Chuck B haters are hate’n on Tarver…

    But what does Reggie do? brings in two injury prone CB’s who are 2nd tier and didn’t even last a week, then he gets rid of the only pass rusher and brings in who? Phillip Wheeler who up until today I was impressed with his all hawking, but he was no pass rusher to begin with.

    He keeps those two bums Seymour and Kelly who are making out like gangbusters cashing those game checks and what else does he do? Nothing, absolutely nothing to address the defense other than Miles Burris…

    What he should have done is get rid of the dead weight overpaid bums like Seymour, Kelly and that BUST of a joke McClain.

    But oh well, he gets paid the big bucks, was recommended by Ron Wolf and John Madden, and won over an incompetent owner, he obviously knows what he is doing
    ********************

    HAHAHAHAHA

  319. DJ Johnny Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Why in hell would you get a rookie coach knowing you’re a rookie GM? it smacks of arrogance and based on what???

    =========================================

    Okay, fill us in. Who would you have hired as head coach? Names, please.

    Marty Morninwheg, Winston Moss, Marv Levy, Mike Ditka…. ANYBODY would be better.

    I have NEVER seen an NFL HC…EVER…laff and smile after getting hammered like DA did today…NEVER.

  320. Marks hair Says:

    BURN IT DOWN

  321. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Another humiliating. Defeat. PATHETIC

  322. Method To My Madness Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    I’d rather have Anthony Dorsett

    ————————————————————

    SMH
    *************************

    Dorsett still made more plays than huff ever has! Huff never even scored a TD! Playmaker? Think not

  323. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    Am I alone in thinking this bye week couldn’t have come at a better time?
    —————————————————–
    It doesn’t matter. If I were many of the players on this roster, I wouldn’t stray to far from the building….better be in watching film, working out or just showing your face…..because you could release about 80% of this roster and not miss a beat

  324. JB Says:

    NFL teams do NOT win without O-lines & D-lines. In our case we are deficient in both. To make matters worse, we are deficient at MLB, both CB’s & at FS. Our backup depth is non-existent across the board.

    We do have some positives: our QB and back-up QB’s, RB & FB and our WR’s are talented but need experience. Our TE’s fall into the same category as the WR’s.

    Coaching wise, we need a new OC & ST coordinator. Based on the above, we have at least a three year wait before becoming a real contender.

  325. raidertalk Says:

    The Death Knell of this season came when the new regime decided to go with Zone-Blocking Offense, and discard the successful Power Block scheme that the organization had been drafting and building around for at least two years.

    The Defense was horrible already so any improvement, without high draft picks, would have been a bonus.

    Its a shame because the offense had some good pieces for power-blocking, DMAC, MOORE, CP, and a few of the OLinemen.

    Rebuilding had to happen either way. It was going to take a few years but now it will have to happen faster on the O…

  326. Marks hair Says:

    Worst secondary ever

  327. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Marty Morninweigh = WCO

  328. J Hill Says:

    What he should have done is get rid of the dead weight overpaid bums like Seymour, Kelly and that BUST of a joke McClain.

    ————————————————————-

    Get rid of Al Davis guys????

    Blasphemy!!!!!

  329. omoran Says:

    If I could only talk to REGGIE for 3Min with my StopWatch on my hand!

  330. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Wait, hold up, didn’t Hue some DAs defense last year?

  331. DKnight007 Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    And Reggie’s 4 games as a GM aren’t why this team sucks. He still has to purge Davis ‘talent’ and replace them with football players. Cant do it all in one offseason. He inherited a true clusterphuck.

    ^^^^^^^
    Bad choice to get rid of Hue and his offense. That was the strength of the team.

    If Hue was kept, than all McK and Hue would have needed to do was concentrate on fixing the defense, penalties and working the cap.

    As Hue said the day he was let go. He said, Davis and McK are going blow up the whole building and start all over.

    They sacrificed the short term winning and development of the last two years ahead of losing in the short term, and HOPE to win in 4 years or longer??

    Ugh

  332. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Wait, hold up, didn’t Hue smoke DAs defense last year?

  333. lefty12 Says:

    Blaming Allen?Really?O,I get it,wink,wink.

  334. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JB Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    NFL teams do NOT win without O-lines & D-lines. In our case we are deficient in both. To make matters worse, we are deficient at MLB, both CB’s & at FS. Our backup depth is non-existent across the board.
    ===================================================
    Truth is…been deficient on both lines for 10 years now.

    Been talking about that for years

  335. Priesttj12 Says:

    I would have NEVER FIRED the coach that was here first of all. Second I would’ve got a guy I knew is a talent who got screwed and was hungry.

  336. AmysInCharge Says:

    The good news is no Raiders next sunday to ruin your weekends,..the better news is you all finally got a GM!!!!… #Enjoythat ;)

  337. J Hill Says:

    Dorsett though????

    SMH

  338. Marks hair Says:

    Wake me in 4 years

  339. Method To My Madness Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    Nobody listened to Brien back in the Spring,..he nailed it,..said Knapp would be the death of the Raiders,…hey bro we got the A`s at least!!!
    *******************

    They listening know about Knapp…he brought wrong system

    My father was OL coach at Bishop Montgomery High last year…they ran the ball great as my dad is a power blocking sorta guy…well coach this year wanted to go ZBS and was arrogant because he had played in the NFL and knew so much more….Pops bounced…..just like Wiz did….they both hate the ZBS

  340. eastoaklandraider Says:

    EastOak….you are wrong…A’s hit way better than those teams with better speed and better defense…Hudson was cool…fk zito and mulder, i never liked them. A’s are the team no one wants to play in postseason….we gonna cause much issues for teams this october
    —————

    are you smokin? tejada and giambi led teams were a much better hitting sqauds along with Tlong hattieburg Rhernandez and others. same for the frank thomas years.

  341. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I’d rather have marquese pope and anthony dorsett over Michelle huff and Tyke Branch

  342. DKnight007 Says:

    Hue lit up DA’s defense last year!! LOL

  343. VanHeathen30 Says:

    The guy who should have been HC’ing the Raiders,
    Was the DC on the ther sidelines.
    DA looks like he wants other to do with this team.
    Probably headed into the Denver locker room afterwards for old times sake…

  344. AmysInCharge Says:

    Hi TJ from Mountain View,..how ya been bro?

  345. Raiderbuck Says:

    Darren McFadden 34 yards rushing,….

    Let that sink in for a bit, 34 phuking yards,… the best back in the NFL and he had 34 yards.

    Hey Coach Allen, I know this is your first year, but this schit isn’t working. I’m just telling ya in case you had questions.

  346. Method To My Madness Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    Dorsett though????

    SMH
    **************************

    That’s how awful Huff is….you damn right I’d take Dorsett over him

  347. Tricky70390 Says:

    This season is a lost cause. Might as well see what Pryor can do.

    And I’m not faulting Carson Palmer either. He and DMC were put in a ****y situation by DA and Knapp, but we might as well see what the future holds now.

  348. eldiabs Says:

    Darren McFadden avg 5.4 ypc last year and you decide to change the blocking scheme… F’N GENIUS

  349. Raiderbuck Says:

    #Raiders opponents completing 71.5% of passes. Only 2 teams ever allowed 70% or better for season

  350. DKnight007 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    AmysInCharge Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    Nobody listened to Brien back in the Spring,..he nailed it,..said Knapp would be the death of the Raiders,…hey bro we got the A`s at least!!!
    *******************

    They listening know about Knapp…he brought wrong system

    My father was OL coach at Bishop Montgomery High last year…they ran the ball great as my dad is a power blocking sorta guy…well coach this year wanted to go ZBS and was arrogant because he had played in the NFL and knew so much more….Pops bounced…..just like Wiz did….they both hate the ZBS

    ^^^^^^^^
    Wiz knew what was up and bounced!

    Big Wiz knew the Raiders were going in the wrong direction offensively at least.

  351. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I’d rather have derrick gibson and Dorsett over Michelle Huff and Monique Mitchell

  352. RaiderDuck Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Marty Morninwheg, Winston Moss, Marv Levy, Mike Ditka…. ANYBODY would be better.

    ===============================================

    Morninwheg: 5-27 (or somesuch) as a head guy.
    Moss: Would be a rookie HC (just like Allen).
    Levy: 87 years old. Yup, even older than Al.
    Ditka: 72 years old and NEVER been successful head coach.

    So again: Name the head coaches you would have hired instead of DA.

  353. lefty12 Says:

    319-rather that than see him overreact like 90% on here.I can’t take it.Some of you need to settle down.The rest(the Alias army) have your fun.Adios

  354. boss01 Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    The good news is no Raiders next sunday to ruin your weekends,..the better news is you all finally got a GM!!!!… #Enjoythat ;)
    ===============

    Finally the Raiders are a modern organization…I am Geeked

  355. Raiderbuck Says:

    lamarr houston ‏@solo_dolo_9s

    Thank god for no injures sorry RAIDERNATION for the disappointing lost n thank those who support n those who don’t

  356. Method To My Madness Says:

    Huff has 4.3 speed I thought with great agility…so why does he get beat on like a prostitute week after week and year after year? Answer that Jhill

  357. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    And Reggie’s 4 games as a GM aren’t why this team sucks. He still has to purge Davis ‘talent’ and replace them with football players. Cant do it all in one offseason. He inherited a true clusterphuck.

    =======

    Hey dilhole, we just had 2 8-8 seasons, I’d hardly call that clusterphuck. Reggie better wise up or he’s gonna end up like Scott Pioli

  358. RaiderDuck Says:

    Interesting how DMac had 34 yards rushing, yet nobody believes DMac bears ANY of the responsibility for that.

    Again: Darren McFadden is not an elite back. He is a good system back, but that’s it.

  359. fingers Says:

    Lol..Bye suits me just fine…. I need a regroup myself after watching today’s game… And my dogs will enjoy a Sunday when I’m not ranting and raving at the TV …. They might even wander outta the bedroom

  360. Marks hair Says:

    Wake my frozen severed head in some future where we dont suck dicks.

  361. boss01 Says:

    So again: Name the head coaches you would have hired instead of DA.

    ================

    How about John Gruden

  362. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Bcuz HUFF DOESNT LOVE FOOTBALL.. he loves the CHECK CASHING/ CLEARING he is just doing it for the money

  363. nyraider Says:

    no way dmac is this bad

  364. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Its too bad Al Davis didn’t groom a young executive that could have been a credible general manager.

    someone that believed in his philosophies and also was up to speed on the latest in management techniques in the 21st century NFL.

    No succession plan….results in a total turnover.

    You can’t expect someone brand new to retain a mouthy, arrogant and disrespectful 8-8 football coach who’s team crashed and burned down the stretch.

    Gotta ride it out

  365. fangsraiders Says:

    barf…..another season over

  366. omoran Says:

    The Problem -RaiderNation Is:
    80% The OF
    20% The DF
    Poor Guys all day -The Defense is out there!

  367. Raiderbuck Says:

    How about Jay Gruden?

  368. morilla Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    JB Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    NFL teams do NOT win without O-lines & D-lines. In our case we are deficient in both. To make matters worse, we are deficient at MLB, both CB’s & at FS. Our backup depth is non-existent across the board.
    ===================================================
    Truth is…been deficient on both lines for 10 years now.

    Been talking about that for years
    ————–

    Truth. You want to see a real productive defensive line? Watch the Giants tonight.

  369. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Im im Mark Davis I would have went to Jon Gruden and asked him to be GM or Director of football operations. I would have offered him a boatload of money.. a Jim harbaugh type contract.

    I know GRUDEN said he would be open to GM’n or having a stake in a franchise.. would just have to be right opportunity.

    MCKENZIE/ALLEN is never gonna workout

  370. Priesttj12 Says:

    Let me say this about Dennie Allen I think he has the talent to be a very good HC but YOU NEVER ALLOW a rookie HC the leverage to hire his own coaches. Why because 9-10 times he wont be able to get the coaches he wants the first time around.
    Second in most cases he’s going to hire friends which is in most cases a bad move he may have to fire them. Get guys that can be HC as well to help YOU when you are up against it. THAT is how Harbaugh is WINNING the coaches he hired are in most cases smarter than HIM.
    Something even Bill Walsh knew was important.

  371. RaiderDuck Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    So again: Name the head coaches you would have hired instead of DA.

    ================

    How about Jon Gruden

    =========================================

    Gruden’s not a coach anymore. He’s a broadcaster. More money, WAY less hours working, less headaches.

  372. nyraider Says:

    before signing carter we were 6 mil under the cap per cork. yet i have to watch a bunch of horrible cbs and wrs.

  373. DKnight007 Says:

    I still would like to see some damn Raider beat writer or local reporter ask DA and or McK why they changed offensive philosophies this year when the offense was the strength of the team the last two years??

    Someone needs to ask McK and DA that question.

  374. Raiderbuck Says:

    Season is over by the week 4 by-week. Thanks you phucking bunch of morons, I can run a team that well.

  375. Method To My Madness Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    EastOak….you are wrong…A’s hit way better than those teams with better speed and better defense…Hudson was cool…fk zito and mulder, i never liked them. A’s are the team no one wants to play in postseason….we gonna cause much issues for teams this october
    —————

    are you smokin? tejada and giambi led teams were a much better hitting sqauds along with Tlong hattieburg Rhernandez and others. same for the frank thomas years.
    ****************************

    A’s hit way better from top to bottom…if you really dont understand baseball then I suggest you dont talk about it…you are lost….see all the Homers we been smacking in the second half? When you hit homers you have way better chance of winning games

  376. YoungAmerican Says:

    Nothing positive to take from today. Playcalling wasn’t so much the issue v.s. Miami and Pittsburgh, but it was VERY bad today. Dennis Allen is partly to blame here as he should have made the call to either challenge or go for it on 4th-and-1 while the game was still within reach.

    But the defense looked lost today. Branch struggled for much of the game, but Rolando McClain, Matt Giordano, Tommy Kelly, Richard Seymour, Matt Shaughnessy, Desmond Bryant, Michael Huff, and Lamarr Houston just let Peyton do whatever he wanted to.

    Again Palmer didn’t look like the main problem on offense, but a couple crucial mistakes still stung. But the WRs still aren’t separating from coverage, and the offensive line is struggling in both the passing game and the run game, especially in the middle.

    The way I see it? The Raiders need to improve at MLB, CB, DE/OLB, and DT. Raiders need to find at least 4 new starters before they’re going to get anything done. Hopefully their out of “salary cap hell” next season because they’ll need the room.

  377. RaiderDuck Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    I still would like to see some damn Raider beat writer or local reporter ask DA and or McK why they changed offensive philosophies this year when the offense was the strength of the team the last two years??

    Someone needs to ask McK and DA that question.

    ==============================================

    DA would be the one to ask. He’s the one who hired Knapp, and he’s the one who will be held accountable.

  378. ray galinaitis Says:

    I am Canadian. I have watched the nfl as long as I’ve watched the cfl. The cfl is easily a step below the nfl, given. Been a raiders zealot since Lamonica, but this excuse for an nfl team would be embarrassed by the Winnipeg Blue Bombers from top to bottom. People are sucking up to the new boss, laying blame and trying to enhance their status by casting blame. Great media faces, but really, the whole picture stinks. STEP UP RAIDERS, this is the nfl, you are being full-on minor league, an embarrassment to your fans , and an insult to your alumni…STEP UP!

  379. nyraider Says:

    DA smiling with fox at mid field after the game was not acceptable

  380. fingers Says:

    Go A’s…..those late game homers are becoming a nice Habit… …

  381. boss01 Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    So again: Name the head coaches you would have hired instead of DA.

    ================

    How about Jon Gruden

    =========================================

    Gruden’s not a coach anymore. He’s a broadcaster. More money, WAY less hours working, less headaches.

    =============

    I’m sure he would have come as GM / HC and more money BSPN is paying him

  382. eldiabs Says:

    Raider Duck

    you’re a moron, DMAC was the only reason the OLINE had a job the last two years,Setele already is out in Indy, Nobody wants Carlise and Barnes is the worst tackle in football, couple that with Knapp loses job with us as Ocoord, demoted to QB coach and comes back as Ocoord. He’s a bum, if he were any good somebody would have hired him as HC or at least Houston would have atleast kept him

  383. JT Says:

    Matt Millen errr Regie Mac got outplayed that chum GM Elway

    Elway picked Fox, Matt Millen picked DA lol

  384. Method To My Madness Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Im im Mark Davis I would have went to Jon Gruden and asked him to be GM or Director of football operations. I would have offered him a boatload of money.. a Jim harbaugh type contract.

    I know GRUDEN said he would be open to GM’n or having a stake in a franchise.. would just have to be right opportunity.

    MCKENZIE/ALLEN is never gonna workout
    ********************

    Fk Gruden

  385. RaiderDuck Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    I’m sure he would have come as GM / HC and more money BSPN is paying him

    ===========================================

    And your evidence for this is…? All manner of jobs have opened up since he left Tampa, and he’s never even been mentioned as a candidate. Why? HE’S A BROADCASTER NOW, and making great money. Who wants to go back to the grind?

  386. YoungAmerican Says:

    JT Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Matt Millen errr Regie Mac got outplayed that chum GM Elway

    Elway picked Fox, Matt Millen picked DA lol

    ==============

    Fox was hired the same year as Hue was.

  387. J Hill Says:

    so why does he get beat

    ————————————————————-

    I saw Huff get caught up in the pick play on that Decker TD.

    What else did he miss today?

    How was our S play today or last week with Huff outta there?

    Replace whoever you want. All I ask is that it be with a better player.

  388. TheBay2LA Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Marty Morninwheg, Winston Moss, Marv Levy, Mike Ditka…. ANYBODY would be better.

    ===============================================

    Morninwheg: 5-27 (or somesuch) as a head guy.
    Moss: Would be a rookie HC (just like Allen).
    Levy: 87 years old. Yup, even older than Al.
    Ditka: 72 years old and NEVER been successful head coach.

    So again: Name the head coaches you would have hired instead of DA.
    ——-

    Kevin Gilbride

  389. boss01 Says:

    D A coached the 20th ranked defense last year..this year the Denver D under Del Rio is miles better…enough said

  390. DKnight007 Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    Its too bad Al Davis didn’t groom a young executive that could have been a credible general manager.

    someone that believed in his philosophies and also was up to speed on the latest in management techniques in the 21st century NFL.

    No succession plan….results in a total turnover.

    You can’t expect someone brand new to retain a mouthy, arrogant and disrespectful 8-8 football coach who’s team crashed and burned down the stretch.

    Gotta ride it out

    ^^^^^^^
    That “mouthy” coach was only a first year head coach. He would have learned to zip his mouth this year.

    That “mouthy” coach also turned this team around the last two years prior.

    Davis and McK just didn’t evaluate things properly before firing Hue.

    They fired Hue for the wrong reasons without having a proper back up plan.

    Dumb rookie moves by Davis and McK!

  391. YoungAmerican Says:

    MCKENZIE/ALLEN is never gonna workout

    ===============

    Holy hyperbole, Batman.

  392. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSVXlSKxmU&feature=g-all-u

  393. JT Says:

    Lane Kiffin errr Denis Allen

    2 chumps

  394. nyraider Says:

    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

  395. DKnight007 Says:

    Where are the Knapp defenders today??

    I told you all what would happen today. I just thought we would be more penalized.

  396. eastoaklandraider Says:

    all the hue bashers said hue was 7-4 and and he sucked the rest of the way. well DA can only dream of 7-4 with basically the same players.

  397. omoran Says:

    HEY Raider Defense -Please use your Baseball Bats on your Raider Offense players !
    They must be tire of them.

  398. RaiderDuck Says:

    Eldiabs Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    Raider Duck

    you’re a moron, DMAC was the only reason the OLINE had a job the last two years,Setele already is out in Indy, Nobody wants Carlise and Barnes is the worst tackle in football, couple that with Knapp loses job with us as Ocoord, demoted to QB coach and comes back as Ocoord. He’s a bum, if he were any good somebody would have hired him as HC or at least Houston would have atleast kept him

    ============================================

    Try not to insult your betters with so many grammatical and spelling errors.

    Elite backs get some yards no matter what. Barry Sanders was famous for running for 1300 or more yards with the crapola o-lines Detroit gave him. Same thing with other great backs.

    Notice how Goodson had more YPC today than DMac? Why is that? Same line, same playcalls, same everything.

  399. boss01 Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    I’m sure he would have come as GM / HC and more money BSPN is paying him

    ===========================================

    And your evidence for this is…? All manner of jobs have opened up since he left Tampa, and he’s never even been mentioned as a candidate. Why? HE’S A BROADCASTER NOW, and making great money. Who wants to go back to the grind?

    =======

    He is just waiting for the right opportunity to come along, and when Reggie was hired, he said no way I’m gonna have that moron as my boss

  400. Raiderbuck Says:

    Knapp sux,….

  401. TheBay2LA Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    I still would like to see some damn Raider beat writer or local reporter ask DA and or McK why they changed offensive philosophies this year when the offense was the strength of the team the last two years??

    Someone needs to ask McK and DA that question.


    This has been answered in DA’s pressers several times, not that I agree but the answer was, and will continue to be:
    DA” ” I believe in the ZBS, have seen it work, and will stick with it”

    UGh!

  402. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    Where are all the Reggie/da/Krappy bootlickers at? Zbs suuikx azss… Zone defense makes you Lose games and if you have no talent this is what you will get with effort never have been players…bunch krap please mark get rid of this ember assign staff please…

  403. JT Says:

    386

    But u got the point didnt u

  404. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    n HUE still had his players playing hard when it mattered.

    That Christmas day KC game.. 3 long explosive plays one to DMOORE was on point. still put up 26 points last game of season. That should be enough for any team to win.

    Allen will be lucky… lucky to win 8 games in 2 years

  405. RaiderDuck Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    He is just waiting for the right opportunity to come along, and when Reggie was hired, he said no way I’m gonna have that moron as my boss

    ============================================

    Again: Your evidence for this is WHAT, other than wishful thinking?

  406. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    Shut it quack this is the sorry team you wanted…

  407. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    Where are all the Reggie/da/Krappy bootlickers at? Zbs suuikx azss… Zone defense makes you Lose games and if you have no talent this is what you will get with effort never have been players…bunch krap please mark get rid of this ember assign staff please…

    ==============================================

    ZBS and zone defense just kicked our butts by 31 points. What are you talking about?

  408. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Let me say this about Dennie Allen I think he has the talent to be a very good HC but YOU NEVER ALLOW a rookie HC the leverage to hire his own coaches. Why because 9-10 times he wont be able to get the coaches he wants the first time around.
    Second in most cases he’s going to hire friends which is in most cases a bad move he may have to fire them. Get guys that can be HC as well to help YOU when you are up against it. THAT is how Harbaugh is WINNING the coaches he hired are in most cases smarter than HIM.
    Something even Bill Walsh knew was important.
    ==================================================
    Priesttj,

    Problem is that today’s “credible” coaching candidates won’t tolerate that much interference in picking their coaching staffs.

  409. TheBay2LA Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

    —–

    Palmer, like every QB needs protection. He is not the problem and in fact has given the Raiders any chance of success. A run game, and O-line and Palmer is playing in the pro bowl.

  410. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raiders may as well just cut McClain now….cant get any worse….he just jogging play after play…falling on his big ass…..pitiful game

  411. boss01 Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    He is just waiting for the right opportunity to come along, and when Reggie was hired, he said no way I’m gonna have that moron as my boss

    ============================================

    Again: Your evidence for this is WHAT, other than wishful thinking?

    ===============

    My evidence is the pile of crap I see in the field that is all thanks to your new GM

  412. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    Shut it quack this is the sorry team you wanted…

    ====================================

    Oooooh! Watch out,everyone! Internet Tough Guy on the loose!

  413. nyraider Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Notice how Goodson had more YPC today than DMac? Why is that? Same line, same playcalls, same everything.
    ——————————
    lmao..goodson played in garbage time..same everything..lmao..next youll be saying criner is next jerry rice

  414. JT Says:

    Elway now owns Reggie

  415. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Did you see the energy and passion that Brian Dawkins (retired) came out of that tunnel and got the whole stadium fired up.

    Raiders have NO ONE like that….no leader on the field..not a one!

    No emotional leader at all…..

    And that’s why its ok in Raider land for players to go entire games without making a play

  416. nyraider Says:

    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

    —–

    Palmer, like every QB needs protection. He is not the problem and in fact has given the Raiders any chance of success. A run game, and O-line and Palmer is playing in the pro bowl.
    ———————
    he doesnt convert 3rd downs –the mark of a true pro bowl qb

  417. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    Quack is happy with this team…a high school team has better staff than what Reggie mcslow put together…0-2 vs AFDC west….

  418. eastoaklandraider Says:

    no offseason
    owner dies
    starting qb goes down
    dmac goes down
    moore and ford in and out of lineup
    rookie head coach
    record for penalties(bad thing)
    and still go 8-8 and come within a qtr of the playoffs is a damn good coaching job to me esp for a rookie headcoach but lets fire the guy.

  419. RaiderDuck Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Boss01 Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    He is just waiting for the right opportunity to come along, and when Reggie was hired, he said no way I’m gonna have that moron as my boss

    ============================================

    Again: Your evidence for this is WHAT, other than wishful thinking?

    ===============

    My evidence is the pile of crap I see in the field that is all thanks to your new GM

    =======================================

    So you think Gruden will leave retirement and become a coach for another organization because…we’re 1-3 right now?

    Please look up “non-sequitur” in your nearest dictionary.

  420. J Hill Says:

    Cut Al Davis’ last 1st rd pick?????

  421. Method To My Madness Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    Where are all the Reggie/da/Krappy bootlickers at? Zbs suuikx azss… Zone defense makes you Lose games and if you have no talent this is what you will get with effort never have been players…bunch krap please mark get rid of this ember assign staff please…

    ==============================================

    ZBS and zone defense just kicked our butts by 31 points. What are you talking about?
    **************

    ZBS dont work with our players man

  422. Priesttj12 Says:

    Hey how bout that modern defense we got this year. That new scheme is all the rage right right ……right!!

  423. DKnight007 Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    n HUE still had his players playing hard when it mattered.

    That Christmas day KC game.. 3 long explosive plays one to DMOORE was on point. still put up 26 points last game of season. That should be enough for any team to win.

    Allen will be lucky… lucky to win 8 games in 2 years

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hue had to overcome so much adversity as a first year head coach it was crazy and he still had the team within one game of playoffs.

    DA and Knapp would never be able to handle what Hue had to deal with last year and still have the team within one game of playoffs.

    Hue deserved another year with a better DC.

    Davis and McK blew it and now the team will suck for the next two years if not longer. Ooooff!

  424. TheBay2LA Says:

    Still curious, was Dmac injured. Played zero it seemed in the second half? Protecting him? If so, was Palmer left out there to be injured?

  425. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Raiders havent had an emotional leader for a while. look at that WHINERS.

    BOWMAN.. GOLDSON.. JUSTIN SMITH.. even Whitner SMH

  426. JT Says:

    Elway is a better GM than Regie and he didnt work for 18 years as a GM understudy

  427. omoran Says:

    DEFENSE didn’t Suck it kept us in the Game pass halftime!
    It was the OFENSE who is F#ck Up!
    The Horse Needs a Drink ,its been outther to long.!

  428. TheBay2LA Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

    —–

    Palmer, like every QB needs protection. He is not the problem and in fact has given the Raiders any chance of success. A run game, and O-line and Palmer is playing in the pro bowl.
    ———————
    he doesnt convert 3rd downs –the mark of a true pro bowl qb


    Neither do Qb’s with no time to make clean throws, furthermore. He is not on the end of those plays where the runner comes up a yard short of the sticks and run’s out of bounds. Reece, Goodson plays and a few others come to mind.

  429. DT42 Says:

    RaiderDuck,

    McFadden is a “system back”? He’s not an elite running back. That has to be the bath salts talking. DMAC averages 7 yards a carry vs. the Broncos. But he is just an average running back? I don’t even know where to start. You have lost your mind.

  430. nyraider Says:

    reggie, da, knapp all believe in each other and the zbs. dmac will be gone next year and will be tearing it up somewhere else. but reggie will keep stealing players from gb practice squad cause he’s building a foundation.

  431. TheBay2LA Says:

    A ducks fan can speak on system backs. Look at the players in their spread, have no future outside that offense.

  432. ray galinaitis Says:

    Let us embrace the obvious and say knapp is not a raider… Just doesn’t get it. Big Ole Reg should be looking at a guy like Tom Clements or even another SMART GUY.

  433. nyraider Says:

    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

    —–

    Palmer, like every QB needs protection. He is not the problem and in fact has given the Raiders any chance of success. A run game, and O-line and Palmer is playing in the pro bowl.
    ———————
    he doesnt convert 3rd downs –the mark of a true pro bowl qb


    Neither do Qb’s with no time to make clean throws, furthermore. He is not on the end of those plays where the runner comes up a yard short of the sticks and run’s out of bounds. Reece, Goodson plays and a few others come to mind.
    ———————-
    no he just start those plays by throwing to someone who is short of the first down marker

  434. gtown1_sj Says:

    Sept. 21, 2003: Throws a sideline tantrum directed at offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and is critical of new coach Dennis Erickson after a loss to the Browns. “It’s my job to run routes and catch the ball,” he says. “It’s their job to know the personnel on the field. It’s their job to know who the playmakers are and to design the plays.”

    T.O, had it right in 2003..

  435. TheBay2LA Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

    —–

    Palmer, like every QB needs protection. He is not the problem and in fact has given the Raiders any chance of success. A run game, and O-line and Palmer is playing in the pro bowl.
    ———————
    he doesnt convert 3rd downs –the mark of a true pro bowl qb


    Neither do Qb’s with no time to make clean throws, furthermore. He is not on the end of those plays where the runner comes up a yard short of the sticks and run’s out of bounds. Reece, Goodson plays and a few others come to mind.
    ———————-
    no he just start those plays by throwing to someone who is short of the first down marker

    —-

    Thats why it’s a team sport bro

  436. gtown1_sj Says:

    nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    reggie, da, knapp all believe in each other and the zbs. dmac will be gone next year and will be tearing it up somewhere else. but reggie will keep stealing players from gb practice squad cause he’s building a foundation.
    ———————————————–
    Oakland Raiders = Green Bay West Practice squad..

  437. 505raiders Says:

    mcfadden needs to see the hole it would help if the holes were predetermined lacks the vision of the great ones

    hes good but he needs a little help

  438. JT Says:

    Cant beleive this team is worst than the art shell team, OMG

  439. gtown1_sj Says:

    Is it just me or is Reggie making “Al Davis” look like the better GM?

  440. nyraider Says:

    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    TheBay2LA Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    palmer is a good qb when throwing deep. palmer is a below average qb on 3rd down. he needs playmakers around him otherwise hes no good.

    —–

    Palmer, like every QB needs protection. He is not the problem and in fact has given the Raiders any chance of success. A run game, and O-line and Palmer is playing in the pro bowl.
    ———————
    he doesnt convert 3rd downs –the mark of a true pro bowl qb


    Neither do Qb’s with no time to make clean throws, furthermore. He is not on the end of those plays where the runner comes up a yard short of the sticks and run’s out of bounds. Reece, Goodson plays and a few others come to mind.
    ———————-
    no he just start those plays by throwing to someone who is short of the first down marker

    —-

    Thats why it’s a team sport bro
    ——————–
    yes it is, but it all starts with the qb first decision, who to throw the ball to

  441. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Raiders are the only team in the NFL to lose the games b4 they even begin.

  442. gtown1_sj Says:

    505raiders Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    mcfadden needs to see the hole it would help if the holes were predetermined lacks the vision of the great ones

    hes good but he needs a little help
    ———————————–
    Not sure if you are watching the same game, but there are “NO” holes. I saw linemen downfield blocking air while DM had 4 tacklers on him

  443. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Palmer ISN’T the problem right now…
    But if he’s injured, QB play will b a problem,
    Along with ever other facet of the game…

  444. eastoaklandraider Says:

    anybody passing blame on palmer is a fool. the scheme doesnt fit the oline is crap once again under the new regime. palmer is the only bright spot i see out there did you see the throw to moore under pressure down the sideline that was a GREAT throw can you imagine what he would be doing in hueys o.

  445. nyraider Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    anybody passing blame on palmer is a fool. the scheme doesnt fit the oline is crap once again under the new regime. palmer is the only bright spot i see out there did you see the throw to moore under pressure down the sideline that was a GREAT throw can you imagine what he would be doing in hueys o.
    ——————-
    palmers good but he isnt a 12 mil a yr qb. hes missed some big throws on 3rd down. i agree hes not our main problem though..

  446. ChrisinNC Says:

    Man, I miss Hue Jackson’s passion. Yeah, he was power hungry, but the ONLY reason was because he wanted one thing: to win. He’s one of those once in a blue moon guys who’s willing to do whatever it takes to win. Some of you guys dog him, but several posters made a great point: DA won’t sniff 8-8 this year. And Hue had a much worse d-coordinator!

    He earned at least one more year. At the very least. I do believe Mckenzie can be a good GM, but that was a killer mistake. And it’s gonna take time to get past that. Some of you complain that Hue only got to 8-8 last season… That team shouldn’t have been CLOSE to 8-8, but that man found a way to get that offense running on all cylinders and win ballgames. Even with the worst defense in the league.

    Firing Hue set us back, and I hate that we whiffed on the chance at having a really good coach.

  447. truepain Says:

    Palmer did as well as you can in that situation..

    Reece is playing is heart out to get to another team.

    DMC is a nonfactor.. underutilized.. nonexistant.. pedestrian in this system.

    I feel bad for D. Moore and these guys.. They’re talent being wasted on this poor excuse of coaching staff

  448. gtown1_sj Says:

    ChrisinNC Says:
    September 30th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
    Man, I miss Hue Jackson’s passion. Yeah, he was power hungry, but the ONLY reason was because he wanted one thing: to win. He’s one of those once in a blue moon guys who’s willing to do whatever it takes to win. Some of you guys dog him, but several posters made a great point: DA won’t sniff 8-8 this year. And Hue had a much worse d-coordinator!

    He earned at least one more year. At the very least. I do believe Mckenzie can be a good GM, but that was a killer mistake. And it’s gonna take time to get past that. Some of you complain that Hue only got to 8-8 last season… That team shouldn’t have been CLOSE to 8-8, but that man found a way to get that offense running on all cylinders and win ballgames. Even with the worst defense in the league.

    Firing Hue set us back, and I hate that we whiffed on the chance at having a really good coach.
    ————————————————–
    AMEN – I said it last season and I’ll say it again. Bresnahan wasnt qualified to run a HS defense. Knapp is not qualified to run a HS offense and DA is not qualified to be a Head Coach.

  449. 2romes Says:

    Guy’s here keep saying DA/Reggie had AL Davis talent to work with. What did Hue have? I tell you DA/Reggie have All the decisions to do it their way. How is it working out? D better, O better, special teams better, front office better, coaches better? Better Where?

  450. nyraider Says:

    in 1961 the houston oilers d had only 3 ints, its almost a lock they will be replaced by the 2012 bend and break d of our raiders. congrats to all involved

  451. JT Says:

    Regie will fix this

  452. raidersmartone Says:

    #352 wouldnt of hired anybody???WOULD of COULD of most certainly SHOULD of keeped hugh jackson…if u were mr.mckenzie,who would u consider of hiring?I think that was the point of d.j. johnny and rest of this blog would initially agree…

    hugh jackson(8-8)
    d.a.(2-12)

  453. sirblitzalot Says:

    I repeat: The Raiders are the worst team in NFL and the AFC-W is the weakest division in the league = Raiders are the weakest team in this league.

    The refs are back to their cheating, as predicted. They swallowed their whistles when it came to the Broncos penalties (holding, roughing the passer, etc.) and throwing them against the Raiders to stop drives! (Even though the Raiders would have lost without cheating officials.) As mentioned above, the Patriots are #1 again thanks to the “professionals”.

  454. Jonesy941 Says:

    Well as least i have my 2 FF teams…

  455. Jonesy941 Says:

    the pats scored 52 points because of the pro refs being back?

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