Coach Allen, staff poring over everything during bye week
By Steve Corkran
Monday, October 1st, 2012 at 3:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Most NFL coaches prefer their bye week fall somewhere near the middle of the season. Raiders coach Dennis Allen said his team’s bye week comes at an ideal time, given there’s so much work to do.
Allen said he and his coaching staff will spend an inordinate amount of time breaking down videotape from the first four games in an attempt to find answers as to why the Raiders started this season 1-3.
“We’ve got a lot of work to do,” Allen said Monday, one day after the Raiders lost to the Denver Broncos 37-6. “We’ve got a lot of areas that we’ve got to improve on. This bye week comes at a good time for us, gives us a chance as coaches to look at and evaluate what we’re doing, who we’re doing it with and come up with solutions that can help us get better and help us win some games.”
Specifically, Allen and his staff need to find out why the Raiders are getting outplayed in the second half, why the defense is allowing more than 31 points per game, why the run game is last in the league and how the Raiders can jump-start things for the final 12 games.
This isn’t what Allen hoped to be doing during the bye week. Yet, he said, he is confident that he and his staff can get things turned around before their next game, Oct. 14 against the Atlanta Falcons.
“We’re not going to stick our head in the sand,” Allen said. “We’re going to evaluate everything and see what things we need to improve on and where we can get better, and there’s a lot of things that go into that. We’re going to go from A to Z. We got a lot of getting better to do.”
Free safety Michael Huff was one of many that felt as if the Raiders possessed a top-five defense entering the season.
Watching video tape of the Raiders games, Huff said the most frustrating thing is, he and his defensive mates oftentimes are in position to make plays. Many times, the plays they aren’t making are the kind that has the potential to change the complexion of games.
“Plays are there to be made, but we just don’t make them when it’s time to make them … ,” Huff said. “We see what we can be. We’re still one play here, one play there. It’s there to be had. We just got to make the plays.”
Veteran defensive tackle Richard Seymour sees a Raiders team that is on the verge. The key is, staying the course, paying attention to detail and being accountable.
“We got a week to think about it,” Seymour said, “but anytime you play a game like that, you definitely want to get back on the field and get it going again. We have some work that needs to be done. If you’re a competitor, you accept that challenge. I feel like we’re headed in the right direction.”
Running back Darren McFadden said he isn’t worried about the Raiders ineffectiveness running the ball so far.
“It’s one of those things where you just got to keep running,” McFadden said. “With the zone scheme, it’s going to hit here and there, but you just have to keep running. Stick with it and keep pounding the ball.”
– Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes underwent a surgical “procedure” 10 days ago in an attempt to expedite the healing of his groin injury, Allen said.
Barnes suffered his injury against the Miami Dolphins on Sept. 16. He missed the past two games. He is week-to-week for now, Allen said.
– Injured starting cornerback Shawntae Spencer still needs a protective boot on his right foot, Allen said.
Allen said he won’t be able to gauge Spencer’s status until Spencer sheds the boot. He has missed the past two games, as well.
– Allen said he is “hopeful” of getting back starting wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey from a concussion in time for the Falcons game.
Heyward-Bey got hurt against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sept. 23 as a result of a helmet-to-helmet hit by Steelers safety Ryan Mundy.
He was hospitalized overnight and has not practiced since the injury. He also suffered a strained neck.
– The official stat book from Sunday’s game against the Broncos credited the Raiders with no hits on quarterback Peyton Manning.
The Raiders review of the video from the game showed their defenders actually hit Manning nine times.
– The Raiders are 28th in defense at an average of 411.5 yards and 31.2 points per game. They are 22nd against the run at an average of 128.5 yards.
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
– The Raiders lost the first game coming off a bye each of the past nine seasons. They lost those games by an average of 14 points
Up next: a game against the undefeated Atlanta Falcons, the sexy pick as the team most likely to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
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October 1st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
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October 1st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
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October 1st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Dennis Allen shouldnt be doing those pressers in JC Penney shirts his mom buys for him.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Uh Oh, SamBorg is getting ready to start babbling in Klingon! One of his classic dweeb-out moves
Yo Brahs, Lake Show media day was off the chizzle, got a live report from some of my boyz in the Certified Platinum Posse
Guess Jody Meeks tried on some of my new fragrance CERTIFIED PLATINUM by BEEECH DAWG and instantly hit a 3
That’s just how they do in the El (Segundo, that is)
LEFT MY WALLET I GOTS GOTS 2 GET IT
October 1st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Soon we’ll be 4 and 1, after Atlanta cleans our clock coming out of the bye.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Ok so far Plunkethead is the leader of the banner contest…JUST SELL, BABY, if anyone tops it they get the row 5 pair in the north endzone,…for those just joining us, I am putting up a banner in row 1 of my section,..the winner will be chosen the wednesday before the Jax game,…good luck.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
7th to last…but krappy/da/reggie are doing a good jov
October 1st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
And no mention about what made him so happy after the loss. Keep up the great job Coach McDaniels! That man is the most pathetic coach we’ve ever had.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
cmon fellas, cant you find a better defense than claiming im racist? i didnt make those numbers up, but they do speak for themselves
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you’ve lost a lot of credibility. cam is the greatest when he wins awful when he loses he wins again and he’s destined to be the best ever. You tell us how you were right on RGIII when everybody new the guy was a star hence the advertising campaigns before his first pro game. You tell us last week that CP turned the corner but he’s a loser this week when I guarantee Aaron Rodgers or RGIII lose the game as well. You make it seem like you’re always right and so we should trust you on palmer but you touted troy smith and mike vick. I’m Mexican-American and i’d love to see Mark Sanchez to succeed because of he’s Mexican-American (although not against us) but i’m not gna lie to you and say he’s gonna be great. Why no touts of other ultra athletic young qbs Andrew Luck Ryan Tannehill Christian Ponder? lemme guess why?
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lets address this load of bs you are trying to sell here.
1. I always beleived cam is a great player, his uneven sophmore start has not changed mny opinion. I have never said he was awful only pointed out where i see he needed to improve.
2. RgIII was not on the radar on this board until he was becoming the clear front runner as a heisman. still i was telling you and this board about him since he was a freshman and i weas called an idiot for it, because he was “a spread guy, couldnt read defense and a run firts qb” i was right about him and you wewr late to the party…waaay late
3.I didnt say carson “turned the corner’ i said he has improved from last year (impossible not to really). he has been serviceable this season but nothing special. For most of his time here he and the team have flat out stunk. hue jack reached badly mortgaged our future and wrecked our division leading team with that single move. It is turning out to be one of the worst trades in football history.
4. i have talked about luck and said many times that he is a very solid prospect and i had him number 2 on my board last behind rgIII
5. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Dumb
October 1st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
i can’t watch these games at bars anymore, i’m gonna get arrested and ruin my life, i thought i was past this stuff
October 1st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Any of you see any reason NOT to just toss Pryor in there now?…any of you that impressed by Palmer? Give the kid, (Hi Priest), two weeks to prepare for the ATL…makes sense to me. Look, that games already over anyway, might as well give us a reason to tune in for a few minutes. Word.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Blackandsilverwhatever
1 – 9 = WRONG
Brah, why do you need to process a loss? You’ve gotta sit around the blog sobbing in your tighty whities because the Raiders lost in the 4th game of the season?
Chill out and pour yourself a sweet Mai Tai and put on some Huey Lewis. I was rocking out to Sports the other day while I was going bareback on this wasted stripper from Fresno
Yeah, THAT one
2 LEGIT 2 USE PROTECTION
October 1st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Well, what are the blog excuse artists saying today?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Just heard Coach Allen with the press. Not one reporter askes Him about his lovefest with Fox after the game.Im still pissed off about that, never seen a Raider HC do that. Still say junk the zbs,power blocking is best, for THIS team, imo. And play press with our backup corners, what say You?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Hi old fool Kell,…was Big Dummy Reggie at the barber shop today?…was he there not getting good players while you were there not closing any houses?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Specifically, Allen and his staff need to find out why why the run game is last in the league and how the Raiders can jump-start things for the final 12 games.
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easy answer the passing game has not threatned any one so team sell out for the run and stopping dmac.
Ther is no bootleg game so the stretch play is running into a brick wall
start pryor vs jax and you will have the spark you seek D.A
October 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Blackandsilverwhatever
1 – 9 = WRONG
Brah, why do you need to process a loss? You’ve gotta sit around the blog sobbing in your tighty whities because the Raiders lost in the 4th game of the season?
Chill out and pour yourself a sweet Mai Tai and put on some Huey Lewis. I was rocking out to Sports the other day while I was going bareback on this wasted stripper from Fresno
Yeah, THAT one
2 LEGIT 2 USE PROTECTION
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Am a boxer short type of guy, Dawg. I am rather large and the restriction of “tight whites” is too much to bear.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Hendu Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Still say junk the zbs,power blocking is best, for THIS team, imo.
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The excuse artists will blame Dmac, if they haven’t already today.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Beeech getting an epic beat down by the blog today. Is it just grumpiness blogsters after a terrible loss taking it out on the Dawg, or has is act gone as stale like the condom in his wallet.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
KrappyRat, fresh from an afternoon nap and ready for some blog trolling
When’re you going to drop your first political cut n paste job of the day, old goat?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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why no ponder mentions? tannehill mentions? has russell wilson outplayed either of these guys yet you’ve been all over him (which by the way i think is solid)? if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. you generalize that we all love palmer think he’s joe montana. I thought he was a big upgrade. turned out not to be a significant upgrade till hopefully last game v pittsburgh and you also had to factor in we were salvaging our season with bulger which in hindsight would have been the right thing but we were a sd or detroit lions win away from the playoffs. he may regress and start throwing int’s left and right but from these last two weeks i think he’s been a warrior and one of the bright spots until further notice so we disagree and i believe if he was black you’d agree, hopefully i’m wrong, but i don’t think i am
October 1st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Where’s Seymour Bush, JFB and the rest of the excuse making Knapp lovers.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
beeechy dawg come home
October 1st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Old fool Kell,..DMC is a female dog like you are,..and your boy Big Dummy Reggie might be taking your job soon, so you better watch out,..Big Dummy Reggie knows how to sweep and mop and fetch coffee too, so pick it up some old fool.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
If TP6 is so great then why couldn’t he beat out leinart for the backup job? I would like to see what the kid has too…but he would get eaten alive out there with this team as the starter. I do think that he needs to at least see the field in some packages designed for him. start there…
October 1st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
While our personel has a lot of issues, there is no way that we get our asses kicked like that with a capable coach. We should have won the SD game with proper preperation. We should not have got our asses kicked by Miami or Denver. The coaching is just horrible.
Allen had an unimpressive resume coming here and now he is in way over his head. Tarver is crap and Knapp is probaly the worst coach I have ever seen at any level.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Beeech getting an epic beat down by the blog today. Is it just grumpiness blogsters after a terrible loss taking it out on the Dawg, or has is act gone as stale like the condom in his wallet.
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Albert Puss, just so you know, me and my blog brahs took your Klas sock puppet more seriously than we take you
Sorry but I gots to keep it real, shout out to the U.S.A.
WRECKS N EFFECT GOIN NATION WIDE
October 1st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
We should trade DMC before his value drops any further. He will not do anything as long as Knapp is calling plays.
We need draft picks to rebuild this team (ala Dallas in the early 90s with Hershel)
October 1st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
FIRE BIG DUMMY REGGIE.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:51 pm
DMC might get you a 4th rounder, nothing more.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Ahhh, the Troll Patrol is dying for my attention now. Tsk tsk tsk.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Gotta love the optimism from the guys on D…”we are on the verge” of what? forcing a punt?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:53 pm
they should have cleaned house on D at the beginning of the season, loved what they did at cb, should have let go Tomy Kelly, Seymour, Slowlando, and Huffy…
October 1st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Allen presser:
Allen: Well that was a great game yesterday. Players are excited! Really happy that we could help Peyton get back on track. Could have done better and bring some gatorade to my mentor and “man crush” Coach Fox! Bye week is gonna give me a chance to get my teeth whitened and the coaching staff is busy watching film and preparing gift baskets. Mark Davis sent me a bunch of Raider gear but I sent it back. Doesn’t match with my Bronco Orange. Thinking about trading DMAC to Denver for season tickets, but then I remembered Elway told me before the game that I’m always welcome home after I finish putting the “McDaniels” on this franchise.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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why no ponder mentions? tannehill mentions? has russell wilson outplayed either of these guys yet you’ve been all over him (which by the way i think is solid)?
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i have never been a ponder fan, i thought manual should have started ahead of him at fsu. I thought ponder was mistake and injury prone in college.
Tannyhill only became the starter in college because the guy ahead of him tore his labrum in the throwing shoulder. To his credit he played well once he was in, but i wasnt as impressed with his 1 1/2 season of starts as i was with rgIII and wilson’s 4 year collge record.
I had luck ahead of tannyhill as well
anything else?
Wilson is 2-2 so lets not bury the kid yet, after 4 games he looks like s rookie, up & down, im betting he figures it out though. he has a solid run game a good defense, he will be fine.
I dont know what any of this has to do with me being a racist though
October 1st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I have no clue as to what the hell happened to the offense. Either Hue is a mad genius or Knapp is a complete and utter idiot… probably the latter.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
With all the knowledge on that coaching staff they are probably through going over everything by now.knapp has added a new play the ausberry screen.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Blackandsilverwhatever
1 – 9 = WRONG
Brah, why do you need to process a loss? You’ve gotta sit around the blog sobbing in your tighty whities because the Raiders lost in the 4th game of the season?
Chill out and pour yourself a sweet Mai Tai and put on some Huey Lewis. I was rocking out to Sports the other day while I was going bareback on this wasted stripper from Fresno
Yeah, THAT one
2 LEGIT 2 USE PROTECTION
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Am a boxer short type of guy, Dawg. I am rather large and the restriction of “tight whites” is too much to bear.
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XXXL Bike Jock straps is the only way the Beeeech Lawg & Beeeech Balls travel
Keepin’ them boyz TIGHT
October 1st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
So, for our team to win, we need to score over 32 points per game and do it with the worst running game in the NFL. Because this defense needs more than Richard Seymour’s “accountability.” Speaking of which, I didn’t read anything where he said he was playing like garbage and needed to play better to earn his salary. It was all ‘we’. That’s not accountability. That’s blame.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:56 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Beeech getting an epic beat down by the blog today. Is it just grumpiness blogsters after a terrible loss taking it out on the Dawg, or has is act gone as stale like the condom in his wallet.
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Albert Puss, just so you know, me and my blog brahs took your Klas sock puppet more seriously than we take you
Sorry but I gots to keep it real, shout out to the U.S.A.
WRECKS N EFFECT GOIN NATION WIDE
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Who exactly are your ‘blog brahs’?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Greg Knapp, you have relegated what is arguably the top back in the league to 3 yards a carry with your Madden 95 play calling. Any words?
Knapp: Just be patient. We are starting to see some improvement.
Dennis Allen, you came to this team with the claim of being a “defensive minded” coach. You even hired a green DC in Tarver, who you could undermine, and we understand that the defense is largely your role and responsibility. What do you have to say to those who say that the defense is actually performing far worse than last years unit, one believed by many to be the worst D in Raiders history, at the time. Any words?
Allen: “Just be patient. We can see where we are improving. We are going to keep evaluating what is not working.”
What did you say to John Fox after the game?
Allen: “I asked if I should have challenged the spot on the Moore catch. He told me that I did the Broncos organization proud today.”
October 1st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
“help us win some games.”-Dennis Allen.
So now it’s gone from playoffs to “win some games”.
Ha. Well, at least he’s not even trying to humor us with any hope for this season.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
After seeing the Raiders Head Coach laughing as he shook hands with Coach Fox after a humiliating, embarassment, sorry ass excuse for a football game, I need to repost this.
And if there’s a fire Allen & all his staff list, add me to it.
684.Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Raiders-Introduce-Allen-as-Head-Coach/c66de533-4a49-46de-9a82-32c9a28cd1c6
Watching Allen on the sidelines yesterday reminded me of something I noticed at his inaugural presser. I don’t like the calls he makes or doesn’t make. And use that fvckin red flag, wuss.
Go to 26:50 and see Allen show his “tell” like a bad poker player. I mentioned it here at the time but forgot about it over the summer and after LOTS of kool aid.
Allen is a weasel and I don’t like him or his bum buddy krapp.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:58 pm
-43 some means one or two games.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:58 pm
If TP6 is so great then why couldn’t he beat out leinart for the backup job? I would like to see what the kid has too…but he would get eaten alive out there with this team as the starter. I do think that he needs to at least see the field in some packages designed for him. start there…
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Because we have a sh!itty GM who can’t realize talent . And we have 2 more idiots Dennis Allen and Knapp who are just as incompetent as Big Mac. Even if we had Bo Jackson out there Knapps dumb @ss would have him as 3rd string …
October 1st, 2012 at 3:58 pm
STOP SAYING PRYOR NEEDS “PACKAGES” TO SEE THE FIELD!!!!
Does anybody say that about so called drop back passers? no they dont. They say put him in and let him work.
So why whenever thetre is a black qb do people say he should only see the field in certain”packages or the so called wild cat”?
Pryor deserved to start in jax if we lose to atl, all this package crap under sells his value as qb
October 1st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Huffy thinks they are a play here and there from getting to Chicago 85 level… either the coaching staff has no knowledge of the English language or Huffy began the bye week with some happy syrup….
October 1st, 2012 at 4:00 pm
If Reggie thinks spencer and bartell are better than route he doesn’t know talent at all.our db were way better last year.maybe that is why al Davis overpaid Wimbley because you can’t get pressure without an edge rusher.the only good pick Reggie made was wheeler,but he had to get one right.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I give D.A. a pass this year to learn and get used to being the head man. On the other hand he hired knapp and he should fire him ASAP. Our D will not get better untill we rid ourselves of the same players that keep cashing checks and dont produce. Kelly,Huff,Seymour,Romac come to mind to name a few. the mad scientist gets a pass also just cause hes stuck coaching these players that just dont get it.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
well, after that inspiring pep talk….can we now start talking about the draft?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
“First and foremost I wanna congratulate the Denver Broncos…from the owner on down to Coach Fox. They did a tremendous job yesterday. They are such a great organization with a great history and i’m just so happy for Coach Fox and his ball club. They really had our number yesterday, which speaks to the great preperation he put into this game. He’s a great man and a great Coach.
I get a little giddy when talking about Coach Fox. Haha I just respect the man so much and what he’s done.”
-Dennis Allen.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Chuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:00 pm
If Reggie thinks spencer and bartell are better than route he doesn’t know talent at all.our db were way better last year.maybe that is why al Davis overpaid Wimbley because you can’t get pressure without an edge rusher.the only good pick Reggie made was wheeler,but he had to get one right.
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Spencer and Bartell have barely played. How can you even know how good they are?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
How many fans show up for Jacksonville ? You want to sell out, pay Gruden whatever he wants, total control, get Him on the sidelines, today! Most of us remember Chucky, in a fond way, and I bet Mark Davis does as well.If Reggie doesnt agree, Im with Norco Bob. RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Romo calling Slowlando a “Puppy Hunter”. Couldn’t of said it better myself.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Well, one thing is for sure, and that is that Knapp’s offense sure does keep McFadden healthy.
Shame we can’t put his health to use because Greg Knapp is trying to make DMC into Arian Foster. I’ve never disliked an offensive coordinator so much. Never have I seen so many boneheaded decisions made consistently year in and year out by a franchise. Reggie needs to head out of the buffet menu and start soaking in some raider mystique.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
And bring Bruce Allen as well.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Big Dummy Reggie doesnt have the smarts to be a GM,…hes maybe qualified to be a janitor,…Mark should make him at least mop the floors at HQ to earn some of his salary.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Does anybody say that about so called drop back passers? no they dont. They say put him in and let him work.
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Oh, you mean like the Broncos! Brock Osweiler would be put in for the Hail Mary package.
Notice you are not offended when the media refers to the wildcat for Tim Tebow’s packages? Guess that is a horse of another color…
October 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
You got that right Hendu,…Jon and Bruce back here would blow the lid of this joint…by the way I stopped popping those a couple years ago,..hence the name change.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Chuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:00 pm
If Reggie thinks spencer and bartell are better than route he doesn’t know talent at all.our db were way better last year.maybe that is why al Davis overpaid Wimbley because you can’t get pressure without an edge rusher.the only good pick Reggie made was wheeler,but he had to get one right.
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Stan is still one of the best in coverage in the league. Funny how he hasnt been getting the PI flags in KC. Routt was coached from day one to play man, and he did it well. One of the most aggressive DBs at the line. And if a WR happened to get by him, he still had the speed to make up ground. The burn rate against him was not a fluke in 2010. Routt was lights out money in 2010. I blame Bresnahan and the terrible D last year on Routts fall off, as well as a number of unwarranted PI flags that would not have been called on anyone else. Never wanted to see Stan go. Worst part is, with what we have, what we replaced him with, and where the cap space has gone in his absence, honestly, we woulda been better off keeping him. I also know that Routt considered himself a REAL RAIDER, whether a lot of fans did or not. And I truly understand why he crossed over to KC without worrying about it. Because he knew this wasnt the real Raiders.
Take these fake @ss Raiders back to GB, HOU, DEN, or whoever the hell this staff is trying to turn them into.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I still believe Reggie is the right man to be the Raiders’ GM; however,
we should not have signed TWO injured (just came off of) cornerbacks entering their thirties,
if we were going to cut Wimbley, Routt and all the other out of whack contracts, we should have cut them all!
October 1st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
“puppy hunter”
so funny and so true
McClain clumsically falling back on his heel against Denver exemplifies his NFL career;
We should have kept Morrison.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
He cut Wimbley and Rhoutt,..kept Seymour and Kelly…some just dont have what it takes to be a GM.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I dont know what any of this has to do with me being a racist though
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it’s like you seem to like dual threat qb’s (run/pass) and these young guys have been impressive after being written off by many yet no mention of them. not gna continue this back and forth as we’ve done it many times before it is what it is. we disagree on palmer (although you had me convinced up until last week, and the jury’s still out) and you only ENJOY touting black qb’s even though you thrown in a Luck reference once or twice. it’s just the way it seems
October 1st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Knapp has never succeeded as an O-cord at any level. how in gods green creation he became a o-cord again with us, is beyond me.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
same loser claims #1 status
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Such panic over a 1-3 start. Chill, everyone.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
60, got the message.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Allen… We’ve got a lot of Work to do……….. Yep..
October 1st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Does anybody say that about so called drop back passers? no they dont. They say put him in and let him work.
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Oh, you mean like the Broncos! Brock Osweiler would be put in for the Hail Mary package.
Notice you are not offended when the media refers to the wildcat for Tim Tebow’s packages? Guess that is a horse of another color…
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why do that dutch?
a hail mary is a play not a package.
No one has ever asked me what i think about tebow being called a wild cat, so how do you know if im offended?
tebow is not black, but this package stuff is used to describe black athletic qbs in particular.
It is a way to slickly discredit their ability to play qb.
Im sorry of that bothers you to hear but this is amerikkka and that is the amerikkkan way
October 1st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Gawd I hate the Donkey’s.
Gunna need me some Killin’s Irish Red…
October 1st, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Such panic over a 1-3 start. Chill, everyone.
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the panic does not come from the 1-3 start, more so the D that cant get off the field and the O that cant seem to finish drives and score points.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Poor old KrappyRat probably got the call from KrappyWife & Her Bowl Cut demanding chauffeur service and had to split
You know he’s going pedal to medal in that shiny red Corvette (beat up Oldsmobile), gotta keep those allowance checks comin’
STRAIGHT FIZZLE
October 1st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Well Stan Routt aint exactly setting the world on fire. Only Washington has given up more passing TDs (11) than KC (10)… Routt suxs!
October 1st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I dont know what any of this has to do with me being a racist though
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it’s like you seem to like dual threat qb’s (run/pass) and these young guys have been impressive after being written off by many yet no mention of them. not gna continue this back and forth as we’ve done it many times before it is what it is. we disagree on palmer (although you had me convinced up until last week, and the jury’s still out) and you only ENJOY touting black qb’s even though you thrown in a Luck reference once or twice. it’s just the way it seems
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what ever bra,
calling me a racist was aver weak come back. i do like dual threat qbs always have.
you among others are still smarting over jc beating out grads, and palmer stinking out loud.
upset because i said it would be so, and it is
next
October 1st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
O yeah. Washington has that other CB phenom Al liked: MeAngelo Hall.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Such panic over a 1-3 start. Chill, everyone.
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Anyone who is a Raiders fan has seen their fair share of 1-3 starts. I dont think its the W-L record anyone is concerned with as much as the horrendous play, coaching, and game planning. Our 1-3 is a lot different than DET or CAR 1-3. This is my question to you. Is this not the worst Raiders playing team youve seen? And if not, which is? For me, it used to be the Art Shell 2, Bed & Breakfast Raiders. However, they had FAR less talent on offense than this squad, and a lot more room for excuses. This is the worst and most lost Ive seen the Raiders ever look.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Just what exactly are you trying to say Alswingman?
Nice article by the way!
October 1st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
I can say bartell and spencer suck from when they did play and there is not a big market for 30 year old corners who were cut from there team and never that good.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Its not the record (1-3) its the level of play that is worrysome.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
1 0f 12 3rd down conversions? Seriously?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
O yeah. Washington has that other CB phenom Al liked: MeAngelo Hall.
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Al didnt want Hall. That was Kiffins guy, everyone knows that. Al likes bigger CBs, that can play man. Hall was always fast, but only decent in zone, and sucked in man. Kiff thought he was gonna bring his dads cover 2 D over, and Hall was gonna be able to make plays. We know how that turned out, stuck with the 4-3 man. And Hall sucked in it. And in return, Al cut his @ss, not long after firing Kiff. Al’s made plenty of mistakes, but Hall was all Kiff.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Such panic over a 1-3 start. Chill, everyone.
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Ahhh, here we go. I guess everybody will be called whiners next.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
.. Allen and McKenzie are gonna be here for a couple years at least… I’m gonna give them some time to see if they can get this team straightened out …Theirs gonna be a different opinions on just about every issue this team has…. The only thing we will all agree on is the play we’ve seen is unexceptable ….for now .. It is what it is ..” . Just win ” has turned into ” just fix it” for me…. I Fk’n hate losing to the Donkeys…
October 1st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Still can’t convert 3rd downs, Still ineffective in the Red Zone, since preseason.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Such panic over a 1-3 start. Chill, everyone.
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Yeah…ha…who cares right? I don’t see it as “panic” it’s more resignation and anger.
DO you mean to chill cuz it’s still early we’re gonna be fine, or chill cuz it shouldn’t matter if we make the playoffs or not, or chill cuz it’ll all be ok in a few yrs.? Not sure what u mean.
I don’t see it as “panic” it’s more resignation and anger.
You did watch the game yesterday right?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Cork. Tell Coach Allen to put Tawain Jones at corner, he’s fast and can tackle in the open field. Since they don’t want to put him on offense, might as well try him on defense.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Kell… True… And those are just a few of the problems… Hard to find any bright spots..
October 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
“Plays are there to be made, but we just don’t make them when it’s time to make them … ,” Huff said. “We see what we can be. We’re still one play here, one play there. It’s there to be had. We just got to make the plays.”
Yeah, it wouldn’t be too bad if it was a play here or a play there in game. Or even in a half. It is every freaking series the D is out there- one or two blown plays. And the O has too many 3 & outs to get the D any rest.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
why wouldnt 1-3 be reason to be upset? WHAT WAS OUR RECORD LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME?
If i remember correctly Jc and the boys steam rolled the jest in a huge win giving us our first winning home opener in years.
sorry but this team isnt close to what we had last year at this time, better players better coaches
damn we were so close, if only hu jack wouldnt have gone nutty and brought in those washed up bungles rejects
October 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
test
October 1st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Such panic over a 1-3 start. Chill, everyone.
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Yeah…ha…who cares right? I don’t see it as “panic” it’s more resignation and anger.
DO you mean to chill cuz it’s still early we’re gonna be fine, or chill cuz it shouldn’t matter if we make the playoffs or not, or chill cuz it’ll all be ok in a few yrs.? Not sure what u mean.
I don’t see it as “panic” it’s more resignation and anger.
You did watch the game yesterday right?
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Until the live feed cut off midway through the third: we were getting creamed and I literally did not care enough to find a working stream. If I want to watch something dark and depressing, I’ll watch “The Day After” or “Schindler’s List.”
And I am seeing a lot of panic on these boards.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
you among others are still smarting over jc beating out grads, and palmer stinking out loud.
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true maturity and intelligence includes realizing and learning from your mistakes. I though JC was a steal for a 4th rounder was it although he took longer than i thought he would to come around. I thought bruce outplayed him early on but became convinced JC was the guy not from his own triumphs but from Bruce’s miserable play v Miami, which may be attributed to his injury, but either way in the long run i think you’re right, i was wrong, JC was the better guy for us in the long haul. It’s obvious that it’s not dual threat qb’s you favor, but black dual threat qb’s you favor. I believe this is a character flaw and you write and analyze footbal quite loquaciously, why not use some maturity and intelligence to realize the flaw and correct it
October 1st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
It’s not panic, it’s disgust.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
1-3 chill.. learn to enjoy losing….. fùck that!
At best we win a few games and kill our shot at a franchise player…
October 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Just see that SD signed Chris Carr. Better than the CBs we just started. Where were you with that one Reggie? Oh, my fault. Carr wasnt on GB’s practice squad.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
I’d like to see a couple of the veterans call a team only meeting … They may care about losing that badly but I wanna see them take some personal responsibility …
October 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
ohn David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Just see that SD signed Chris Carr. Better than the CBs we just started. Where were you with that one Reggie? Oh, my fault. Carr wasnt on GB’s practice squad.
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Isn’t he under 30 and fast too?…He wouldn’t be worth anything to us here.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Evaluation of Coaches
Dennis Allen
Pros: waxes his eyebrows, shaves his forearms
Cons: bleeds orange and blue, determined to lose the west
Speciality: getting blown out
Gruden
Pros: Endorsed by commercial companies, hates things, proven champion
Cons: nothing, bless his soul
Speciality: Winning ratios and swearing
Cable
Pros: he’s not a loser anymore
Cons: too warm and fuzzy during pressers
Specality: “Peon Punch”
Hue
Pros: has a scar, ingenius offensively, huge silver and black balls
Cons: pushed his limits
Speciality: great 1st half play calling
October 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Still can’t convert 3rd downs, Still ineffective in the Red Zone, since preseason.
That’s a playcalling issue.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
2006 > 2012. That 27-0 loss at home to the chumps was as ugly a game as I ever saw. Until yesterday that is. Taht team had friggin Alvis whitted as a starting WR and Fargas at RB. We now have DMoore & DMAC with Carson Palmer, Reece, Myers, Ausberry, TJones. Weapons all over the place not getting used properly.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
you among others are still smarting over jc beating out grads, and palmer stinking out loud.
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true maturity and intelligence includes realizing and learning from your mistakes. I though JC was a steal for a 4th rounder was it although he took longer than i thought he would to come around. I thought bruce outplayed him early on but became convinced JC was the guy not from his own triumphs but from Bruce’s miserable play v Miami, which may be attributed to his injury, but either way in the long run i think you’re right, i was wrong, JC was the better guy for us in the long haul. It’s obvious that it’s not dual threat qb’s you favor, but black dual threat qb’s you favor. I believe this is a character flaw and you write and analyze footbal quite loquaciously, why not use some maturity and intelligence to realize the flaw and correct it
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wrong again
elway young and montana are all white qbs, they are also 3 of the greatest mobile qbs in history.
if they played for the raiders i would have loved them but they played for my mortal enemies, so they could only earn my respect and not adulation.
yawn, you are a bore
October 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Mistic1 tha Supavillain, imo,youre a jackarse.Folks,check out the handle, VILLAIN, here to yank chains, stir it up,if You will. I get him now, see the game he plays, HaHa. Wouldnt surprise me if hes a WHITE guy, oh Palmer is a good QB…
October 1st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
– The official stat book from Sunday’s game against the Broncos credited the Raiders with no hits on quarterback Peyton Manning.
The Raiders review of the video from the game showed their defenders actually hit Manning nine times.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
…after Manning had unloaded the ball and Decker was running uncovered, seemingly.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
fingers Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
I’d like to see a couple of the veterans call a team only meeting … They may care about losing that badly but I wanna see them take some personal responsibility …
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Thats like allowing the dumbest antelope to lead the herd through the lions and crocs, no thanks..
October 1st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
hu jack and chuck b laughing their asses off right now
October 1st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
huge weaknesses:
pass rush- huge boost if carter is a 50% of what he was last year
Cb’s- huge boost when spencers out of the boot and carter helps ensure they don’t have to cover as long
oline-personell is fine so can be fixed, BRING BACK WILEY!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
After seeing the Raiders Head Coach laughing as he shook hands with Coach Fox after a humiliating, embarassment, sorry ass excuse for a football game, I need to repost this.
And if there’s a fire Allen & all his staff list, add me to it.
684.Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Raiders-Introduce-Allen-as-Head-Coach/c66de533-4a49-46de-9a82-32c9a28cd1c6
Watching Allen on the sidelines yesterday reminded me of something I noticed at his inaugural presser. I don’t like the calls he makes or doesn’t make. And use that fvckin red flag, wuss.
Go to 26:50 and see Allen show his “tell” like a bad poker player when asked a qwuestion regarding his character. I mentioned it here at the time but forgot about it over the summer and after LOTS of kool aid.
Allen is a weasel and I don’t like him or his bum buddy krapp.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Hendu Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Mistic1 tha Supavillain, imo,youre a jackarse.Folks,check out the handle, VILLAIN, here to yank chains, stir it up,if You will.
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Funny, you never complain about Norco Boob.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
yawn, you are a bore
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ouch, that one hurts
October 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
2006 > 2012. That 27-0 loss at home to the chumps was as ugly a game as I ever saw. Until yesterday that is. Taht team had friggin Alvis whitted as a starting WR and Fargas at RB. We now have DMoore & DMAC with Carson Palmer, Reece, Myers, Ausberry, TJones. Weapons all over the place not getting used properly.
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This speaks for itself. Greg Knapp is getting paid a lot of money, every week, to misuse the players at his disposal, and call plays from the 9ers playbook in Madden 95. A LOT of money. I like that he hustled his way from Sac State to the NFL, good for him, but Im not spending my hard earned money on HIS paycheck.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
it’s not the 1-3 record;
it’s that we have turned a top ten offense to the NFL worst
and we have turned the best special teams unit to worse than Norv turner’s special teams units
October 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
KK, and YOURSELF, LOL
October 1st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
only improvement has been reduction of penalties; which is vitally important
Raiders get blown out by Atlanta, we need to blow this entire team up; get draft picks
October 1st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Until the players take up the issues this team has nothing we can say on this blog is gonna make any difference… If they don’t like the ZBS or play calling then they need to step up and say so…if a players slacking and dogging it they need to call them out …somebody on the team needs to show some pride …
October 1st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Great – we’re like last year’s team minus an effective offense.
At least I knew that McFadden would be a threat last year.
None of the players are correct for this scheme except for two O-Linemen, and it shows.
The “not in sync” that you keep hearing just means that.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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Pathetic
October 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
i used to like it when we’d be sore losers and commit a penalty to get thrown out of the game (ie Tyler Brayton knee, Seymour punch) at least they showed we gave a schit
October 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
ohn David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Just see that SD signed Chris Carr. Better than the CBs we just started. Where were you with that one Reggie? Oh, my fault. Carr wasnt on GB’s practice squad.
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Isn’t he under 30 and fast too?…He wouldn’t be worth anything to us here.
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Our old throwaways are becoming better than what we have. This guy Reggie was supposed to be some master scout. Superb eye for talent. All that. We draft Nathan Stupar. Our big free agent signing was Mike Briesell. And we cut players that are showcasing their talents elsewhere. Not impressed with Reggie’s “eye for talent”.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
For the second time in three weeks my comment is the same: there is NOTHING to be happy about yesterday. Absolutely nothing. lst and foremost we got completely out coached. We got out played, we got out coached. The happiest guy on earth right now after MR has to be Chuck Bresnahan. Maybe it wasn’t Bresnahan afterall.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
how many billboards does it take to get Gruden back
October 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
who wouldn’t have loved making the playoffs while being the most penalized team ever? says here it would’ve happened with an average DC. Spilt milk but when do we start the bring back chucky or hue campaign?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Duck,
I still don’t know what you mean by “chill” or what we aren’t supposed to panic about.
Are u saying it’s too early and we can still have a good season? Or, “relax in a few yrs. we’ll be good” and to be “patient”?
Don’t know what u mean. Not trying to be a smart alek, i’m trying to understand your statement.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
When are we going to see the “multiple fronts” on defense we heard so much about?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Mistic
TP is a very very bad QB. He was in OSU, which is why no one picked him through 65+ picks when he was the ONLY guy available.
He was last year when he couldn’t learn the playbook.
He is this year when he can’t beat out Leinart and reports have him throwing wobbly ducks all over the practice fields.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Anyone who can’t see that Dmac averaged OVER 5 yards per carry for Hue and under 3 now means that they are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole must be an idiot…Knapp…HELLO???
October 1st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Big pep… You aren’t on the team…it’s the team that needs to decide where to go from here, they either care or they don’t…..
October 1st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
John David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
We draft Nathan Stupar. Our big free agent signing was Mike Briesell. And we cut players that are showcasing their talents elsewhere. Not impressed with Reggie’s “eye for talent”.
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You’re ready to can our GM because a 7th-rounder didn’t work out? Really???
Briesel has been a quality RG for years. Too bad he decided to quit on us.
And who exactly is “showcasing their talents elsewhere?” Wimbley with his one sack? Murphy with his five catches? Campbell with his zero snaps?
October 1st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
John David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
ohn David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Just see that SD signed Chris Carr. Better than the CBs we just started. Where were you with that one Reggie? Oh, my fault. Carr wasnt on GB’s practice squad.
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Isn’t he under 30 and fast too?…He wouldn’t be worth anything to us here.
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Our old throwaways are becoming better than what we have. This guy Reggie was supposed to be some master scout. Superb eye for talent. All that. We draft Nathan Stupar. Our big free agent signing was Mike Briesell. And we cut players that are showcasing their talents elsewhere. Not impressed with Reggie’s “eye for talent”.
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They weren’t “Reggie’s guys”
October 1st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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Pathetic
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Not a single Raiders fan should be OK with this. This is truly despicable. Truly. Every fan, critic, magazine, preseason prediction, analyst, writer, KNEW that this would be our STRENGTH. If you take a strength and turn it to a weakness, you failed. Period. The staff has failed miserably and are losers. With staggering, franchise record breaking stats to back it up.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Anyone who can’t see that Dmac averaged OVER 5 yards per carry for Hue and under 3 now means that they are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole must be an idiot…Knapp…HELLO???
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Yep, it’s really that stark of a comparison.
HELLO!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I’m willing to put $ on Pryor being cut this off-season. He’s that bad at actually reading a D and passing the football from the pocket.
KK
that’s been a huge disappointment. All this talk about multiple looks, 3-4…nope, Manning getting man-to-man 80% of the time and slicing it up.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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Pathetic
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He should just get another RB in there because if he is so determined to run this scheme, there are others who can run it. It’s just a waste of talent. Just like Palmer being used in this way is a waste.
October 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Mistic
TP is a very very bad QB. He was in OSU, which is why no one picked him through 65+ picks when he was the ONLY guy available.
He was last year when he couldn’t learn the playbook.
He is this year when he can’t beat out Leinart and reports have him throwing wobbly ducks all over the practice fields
October 1st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
a play here, a play there… thats all it takes and we’re right back in this thing.
Is this team delusional?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
If we finish 5-11, I can see us trading Carson to the Jets for their first round pick.
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The only person dumb enough to give Raiders a #1 for Palmer is Hue.
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Smart enough to go 8-8.
Will D.A. be good enough to match that?
^^^^^^^
DA doesn’t have the guts or sack to do what Hue did in his first year as head coach.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Truepain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
how many billboards does it take to get Gruden back
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I like Gruden, but he did what he did here in tandem with Al Davis. Would he have the same success with Reggie?
Gruden + Davis = money
They complimented each other well.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
True… They have more issues than a play here and a play there…. A lot more
October 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
KK, simple question, are You and Mistic1 related? Youre under the threat of perjury, enforced by Thec and Seymour Bush
October 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Raiderzmaverick
Palmer isn’t being wasted in this system. If Schaub can run it, Palmer can. The system lets him make solid throws down the field, screens, and bootlegs that give him one-on-ones deep.
It’s the street free-agent RT, lack of run game, and below average o-line that are limiting Palmer’s ability to put up Steeler-type games more often.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Anyone that would even entertain the thought of interviewing Knapp is a loser. Fire Allen and his staff. The only one that deserves a fair shake for the resat of the year is Tarver. He’s very limited personnel wise and the offense makes it way to hard on him.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
138, dont forget Bruce Allen!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Big Banana
Gruden went away from Davis and made the playoffs multiple times, improving the offense where he went, and winning a very important game.
And did that all without the use of two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks that were traded for him.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
I Wish Del Rio got the job as HC. At least you’r see him tearing into McCalin if nothing else.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Dmac goes from the starting RB with the Highest YPC average to the lowest in one year.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
John David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
We draft Nathan Stupar. Our big free agent signing was Mike Briesell. And we cut players that are showcasing their talents elsewhere. Not impressed with Reggie’s “eye for talent”.
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You’re ready to can our GM because a 7th-rounder didn’t work out? Really???
Briesel has been a quality RG for years. Too bad he decided to quit on us.
And who exactly is “showcasing their talents elsewhere?” Wimbley with his one sack? Murphy with his five catches? Campbell with his zero snaps?
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I cant speak on every player and how theyre doing, but Ive watched a lot of games this year, so far, and Ive watched a lot of former Raiders make plays. Off the top of my head, saw Schillens yesterday getting good separation and making a couple nice grabs against a stingy SF Defense that had Sanchez looking like Josh McCown. Saw Stan Routt week before last with a nice INT return, a forced fumble, and a nice pass break up. Ive seen Mike Bush run for more TDs than McFadden, but thats not really part of the current discussion, just popped in my head though. Saw DVD looking good for PITT a couple weeks in a row. I mean, nothing hall of fame level but Im seeing plays being made. A lot more than what Im seeing with this current roster. Im sure people that have watched other games have noticed the same from other former players. Its not all about what you are just seeing in the stat lines all the time. Im talking about games and plays Im watching with my own eyes.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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Pathetic
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He should just get another RB in there because if he is so determined to run this scheme, there are others who can run it. It’s just a waste of talent. Just like Palmer being used in this way is a waste.
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What I’m wondering is what’s Palmer so excited about? Does he see something in this offense that we haven’t seen yet? According to Phil Simms, Palmer was almost over the top in his praise of Knapp’s offense.
I maintain that it’s tough to know with Palmer and DMAC in this offense simply because the oline is playing like trash right now. Now that’s. It to say I think Knapp is doing a good job. Someone is to blame for the crappy oline play, and not just the players. These guys are unprepared.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Now thats *not to say
Dam device
October 1st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Proof that Allen is sackless.
3 times this year we were trailing going into half time, in the redzone, 4th & 1(or 1 & 1/2)and under 30 seconds left. Not once does he think about going for it.Plus we were getting the ball bakc to start the 3rd at least 2 of those games!!
Get the fack outta here with that weak shlt.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Mistic
TP is a very very bad QB. He was in OSU, which is why no one picked him through 65+ picks when he was the ONLY guy available.
He was last year when he couldn’t learn the playbook.
He is this year when he can’t beat out Leinart and reports have him throwing wobbly ducks all over the practice fields.
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TP was 30-4 as a starter at ohio state, and i personally believe that tressel and their staff did a terrible job developing him.
30-4 is not terrible, the kid is only 23 and was far better than lienart and palmer in the pre season.
I dont care what the so called reports from biased agenda bent media, i go by what i see when i watch.
TP is the only way this season remains watchable, especially in the face of a horrendously bad 1-3 soon to be 1-4 start
October 1st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
To me, before we can even get to the offense we have to talk about the defense. They allowed Dungver to come right down the field and score on their lst possession and then really never stopped them all game until John Fox had mercy on Dennis Allen and went conservative later in the game.
These players particularly on defense are not in condition. At all. That is pretty obvious. Maybe the Raiders should go up to Rocklin and train in 100 degree temps instead of the 60-70’s in Napa. Maybe then these guys would be in condition for the season.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
TP was 30-4 as a starter at ohio state, and i personally believe that tressel and their staff did a terrible job developing him.
30-4 is not terrible,
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Jamarcus Russell was 26-4 in a better conference. And we all know how that turned out.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I would rather have Stupar starting at MLB than mcLame. He had a better game against the seahwks than slolando has ever had.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Alex7. That was Dungy’s team. He just took it over the hump and lucked out drawing the offense he authored in the Super Bowl. The players have even spoken on that. Heck, Gruden himself thanked Dungy for his contribution to that Super Bowl team.
What happened after that? 7-9, then 5-11
Come on, man.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
I Wish Del Rio got the job as HC. At least you’r see him tearing into McCalin if nothing else.
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McClain looked, once again, like McClain out there. It is now time to fire up the waiver wire.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
booty
to get those ‘highlights’ you mentioned from former Raiders, you would have to shell out about $45 million combined and be over the cap (aka cut half your roster that makes minimum) to keep those players here.
You’re telling me Bush, DVD, Chaz, and 1 interception are worth $45 million and an even GREATER lack of depth on our roster?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Oh and to add to point in #150:
Go for it simply because this D is gonna give up points, no doubtr. With a sold D I could accept going for 3, well not yesterday.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mistic,
why do you keep attributing wins and losses to a QB?
OSU’s record was OSU’s record, not Pryor’s. The Raiders record are theirs as a team, not Palmers. The 49ers wins are their team’s, not Alex Smith’s.
Individually, Pryor was TERRIBLE as a QB at OSU, and the scouts passed on him 65+ times even though he was the only guy on the draft board.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
To compare QBs based on their teams’ win and loss record is just stupid.
Yet Mistic continues to do it. No idea why.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
It’s obvious what they need to do to get better and win games.
Get back to running more power running plays and have Al Saunders take over play calling duties and kick the ZBS and Knapp to the curb and show more 3-4 alignments and zone coverage and blitz schemes to try and confuse offenses. TRY is the key word.
DA won’t do any the necessary things that may give this team a chance to save the season.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Hendu Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
138, dont forget Bruce Allen!
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Yes, very true! In fact, he had a bit of success in TB after Allen came along as we all know. Still, didn’t quite get to where he wanted. One 11-5 year tho.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Alex7. That was Dungy’s team. He just took it over the hump…
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umm, exactly. He IMPROVED it. Kinda the point. I guess Gruden gets credit for the Raiders 2002 Super Bowl appearance also then.
The Bucs struggled after that (happens to SB teams ESPECIALLY without 1st and 2nd round picks TWO YEARS IN A ROW), then he took them to the playoffs twice more.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mistic,
why do you keep attributing wins and losses to a QB?
OSU’s record was OSU’s record, not Pryor’s. The Raiders record are theirs as a team, not Palmers. The 49ers wins are their team’s, not Alex Smith’s.
Individually, Pryor was TERRIBLE as a QB at OSU, and the scouts passed on him 65+ times even though he was the only guy on the draft board.
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you can follow kiper and mcshay all you want, i dont.
I make my decisions based on what i observe from watching the ames.
Tp was the only qb on our team that made the offense dangerous during the pre season.
TP played well enough in college to be a winner, and if not for his suspension may not have fallen so far.
None of that matters, palmer sucks, The team isnt close to what we had last year, and it will be time to start tp when we lose to atl.
palmer has no trade value, hasnt delivered the wins, so the trade is a complete debacle.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
To compare QBs based on their teams’ win and loss record is just stupid.
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A bit of a simpleton approach.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Big Banana
Gruden went away from Davis and made the playoffs multiple times, improving the offense where he went, and winning a very important game.
And did that all without the use of two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks that were traded for him.
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We didn’t hit the pics except for Nnamdi, but guess what, the only reason Gruden went to the playoff in Tampa was when their defense was top 5. His offense their sucked and in 2006 only Bed & Breakfast was worse than him.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I guess Gruden gets credit for the Raiders 2002 Super Bowl appearance also then.
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Yes, of course he does. He built that team, with Allen and Davis.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I was on the fence with DVD, but the kid tried. In that last preseason game he made a coule plays and was pumped up in doing so. Would rather the Reggime keep a kid like that and cut Slolando McLame.
In evaluating tyalent, they like what they see from this punk?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I was on the fence with DVD, but the kid tried. In that last preseason game he made a coule plays and was pumped up in doing so. Would rather the Reggime keep a kid like that and cut Slolando McLame.
In evaluating talent, they like what they see from this punk?
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He may be one of those players who looks way better in practice than the games themselves.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
If tp stinks and we go 0-12 with him the rest of the way it only helps us in the draft… get it? The best rebuilds have a plan… rip off the bandaid da…
October 1st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
Had to turn the “Game” off about midway through the 3rd QTR.
What a pile of crap.
ROMAC is now dead to Me.
If Lamar Houston can sprint 30, 40, 50 yards downfield as a DE to recover a fumble, than Slowlando can as well.
The difference is that Houston wants it, Slowlando don’t, this I’m now certain of.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
And again, I like Gruden. Just don’t expect him to be some magician that can fix all that ails the Raiders. It was a good combo, those 3. Too bad it didn’t last.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
If you even DOUBT how good Gruden was/would be here…
Gruden has a 5 divison titles, a SB, and one other playoff appearance while playing the following QBs:
Chris Simms, Donald Hollas, Wade Wilson, Brian Griese, Luke McCown, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, and Brad Johnson.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mistic,
why do you keep attributing wins and losses to a QB?
OSU’s record was OSU’s record, not Pryor’s. The Raiders record are theirs as a team, not Palmers. The 49ers wins are their team’s, not Alex Smith’s.
Individually, Pryor was TERRIBLE as a QB at OSU, and the scouts passed on him 65+ times even though he was the only guy on the draft board.
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you can follow kiper and mcshay all you want, i dont.
I make my decisions based on what i observe from watching the ames.
Tp was the only qb on our team that made the offense dangerous during the pre season.
TP played well enough in college to be a winner, and if not for his suspension may not have fallen so far.
None of that matters, palmer sucks, The team isnt close to what we had last year, and it will be time to start tp when we lose to atl.
palmer has no trade value, hasnt delivered the wins, so the trade is a complete debacle.
^^^^^^^^
It’s too bad the Palmer trade will never be accurately or appropriately evaluated since Hue is no longer here and Knapps offensive designs and play calling sucks azz!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Again a D that can’t stop shiiiit, and now an O that shows spurts of productivity and then vanishes.
Huff talking about “just missing” and plays are there to be made…LOL
Memo Dummy….PLAYERS MAKE PLAYS!
I’m a patient Guy, but the stuff I’m hearing is the same old song… and losing dance.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Just for the Big Banana:
Gruden won 5 divison titles and a SB with:
Chris Simms, Donald Hollas, Wade Wilson, Brian Griese, Luke McCown, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, and Brad Johnson.
EVERYONE credits him with improving the offense in Tampa while he was there.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
To compare QBs based on their teams’ win and loss record is just stupid.
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A bit of a simpleton approach.
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im sure you would say that because palmer is 5-9 here and 2-4 in the division.
your hero stinks and so does his team
October 1st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
The year after Gruden left,
the Bucs went from 9-7 to 3-13 with the same defense.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
That game was an embarrassment to the Raider organization.
Top to bottom.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Just for the Big Banana:
Gruden won 5 divison titles and a SB with:
Chris Simms, Donald Hollas, Wade Wilson, Brian Griese, Luke McCown, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, and Brad Johnson.
EVERYONE credits him with improving the offense in Tampa while he was there.
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Lol, sign him up then, Alex. Heck, I won’t complain. Can’t be worse than what we have going on now.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Since we are currently into the bye week….I’d like to offer a little subtle motivation for REGGIE MCKENZIE & DENNIS ALLEN.
You will all find it exciting to know that the Oakland Raiders future is not likely to include Dennis Allen or Reggie McKenzie…
WHY?
Reggie is sewn to the hip to his coach….so when they sink….and they are currently sinking…..they go down together…..
Reggie thought that he had an easy Mutil Million Dollar Paycheck when he arrived in the bay area…..
He didn’t see this ANY of this coming…..
I imagine the Raiders current leadership will start the deflection of responsibility soon….
Reggie is likely to do another panel interview claiming patience and that these things take time….blaming unforeseen injuries….
For Coach Allen, it will be more of the same snide remarks following embarrassing losses regarding his inability to have his NFL players execute the scheme.
The thing is….there is something the RM and DA don’t know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp5TfrnU9kE
October 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
That game was an embarrassment to the Raider organization.
Top to bottom.
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Not to mention the fans that pay their hard earned money on that crap.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Afternoon RaiderNation
I say it like it is! 34-20 last Monday – Remember !
It was worst -37-6.
MaClain really play well- He gave us 7 in Heaven!
And –Up your Nose with a Rubber Hose.!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Gruden would be fun, but He’s not the answer.
He’s living the good life.
His edge has dulled.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Mistic’s order of top NFL Qbs (because record is what matters):
Kevin Kolb
Alex Smith
Tim Tebow (awesome 67% career win record)
Doug Flutie
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October 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
your hero stinks and so does his team
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The team stinks, yes. But Palmer played well considering the hand he was dealt. Show me a QB that would have succeeded and pulled his team to victory under yesterday’s circumstances and I’ll show you a liar.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Just for the Big Banana:
Gruden won 5 divison titles and a SB with:
Chris Simms, Donald Hollas, Wade Wilson, Brian Griese, Luke McCown, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, and Brad Johnson.
EVERYONE credits him with improving the offense in Tampa while he was there.
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He had a top 10 defense every year in Tamper Bay except for 2006, and that year his offense was 31st. Every other year he was never in the TOP half of scoring on offense. His last game there, with the playoffs(and his job) on the line, he loses at home to Jamarcus Russell. Of course, Cable had sh!tcanned a crappy OC by the time, remember who that was?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
dont make excuses for this team or the players.
Big mck may have a plan but he needs to turn over the roster. he was saddled with a blown draft, a washed up qb, and god awful defense.
D.A also needs players but what i have seen in the blow out losses is inexcusable. Including yuking it up after you get hammered on the field. i think how ever that cutting down the flags shows something, so he seems to be a stickler and discipline oriented guy, but not much for x and o or motivation.
The players have no excuse at all especially the high priced so called leaders, seymour romac and palmer
October 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
That game was an embarrassment to the Raider organization.
Top to bottom.
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Not to mention the fans that pay their hard earned money on that crap.
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Booyah, hello! I feel like I just got left with my dik in my hand. Paid good money for season tix.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
My preseason 6-10 prediction seems a little TOO friendly, despite me being labeled a pessimist (aka realist)
October 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Told you: Blog Dam#t- ALL OF YOU NATION.
WE WANT AL SAUNDER !!!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
That game was an embarrassment to the Raider organization.
Top to bottom.
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Not to mention the fans that pay their hard earned money on that crap.
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I hear you Seymour. I don’t take the stench personally per se and could care less what others might think of Me for being a Raider Fan.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
The Raiders and Browns have blown more 1st round picks than anyone else this last decade.
Yet it’s new GM McKenzie’s fault they’re not winning.
ok.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
your hero stinks and so does his team
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The team stinks, yes. But Palmer played well considering the hand he was dealt. Show me a QB that would have succeeded and pulled his team to victory under yesterday’s circumstances and I’ll show you a liar.
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what circumstances?
he had the entire off season, he isnt rusty or injured, There are no excuses. his body of work since joining this team has been below standard.
5-9 as the starter 2-4 in the divsion more picks than games played.
He hasnt been very good over all
October 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Booyah, hello! I feel like I just got left with my dik in my hand. Paid good money for season tix.
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I hear ya, I missed a part of the point Seymour Bush was making.
True.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Bring Al Saunder signs to the Stadium -O co.- Atlanta Falcons game.
BOO SHAME ON YOU!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/So-this-is-a-real-defense?blockID=782281&feedID=2801
says it all don’t it?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
The Raiders and Browns have blown more 1st round picks than anyone else this last decade.
Yet it’s new GM McKenzie’s fault they’re not winning.
ok.
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I’m not pointing a finger at Reggie, He should be allowed to do His job.
What we’ve seen over the past month however is pretty shabby and for all of us I presume….frustrating.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
We don’t have corners right now..No pass rush…Injured receiving corp..New blocking scheme..what do people expect us to be 3-1? I am disappointed but need to see adjustments after the bye week or its 4-12 at best.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Raiders #30 on 3 rd down conversions. That’s a Playcalling problem
October 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Here is an example of what Raider employees are doing….
Distorting the truth a little perhaps?
___________________________________________________
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
For what it’s worth, #Raiders say they had 9 QB hits on Manning. Pro Football Focus had it at 2, both Wheeler’s
Retweeted by Levi Damien
October 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Raiders #30 on 3 rd down conversions. That’s a Playcalling problem
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Agree.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
No use blaming the defense when the Offense can’t stay on the field longer than 3 plays.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
THIS WEEK’S BLOG SUMMARY:
- Davis’ Raiders had multiple high 1st round picks and only DMC to show for it.
- Davis’ Raiders had only two impact D players (Woodson and Nnamdi) the last 10 years and zero now.
- No GM can fix an O-line, D-line, linebackers, corners, safeties, and depth albatross in one off-season.
- Knapp messed up a solid run-game formula.
THE END. COME BACK IN 13 DAYS.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
This team sucks, more from the top than the bottom.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Raiders allowed 125 points their first four games. That’s more than any Raiders team allowed during the first four games of a season during the Al Davis era.
***
Chuck Bresnahan is having a good chuckle!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
IF Dennis Allen can suck it up and admit knapp was a mistake and hand off the o to Saunders, then he might save his job. Otherwise he is just screwing himself.
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If Smiling Tittyboy can’t see that Krapp has destroyed the Raider offense and doesn’t promptly dismiss him, then he TOO must go.
I’m willing to give Tittyboy and Tarver a pass for the defensive woes.
That unit is in absolute SHAMBLES and needs to be completely revamped.
Slowlando is an embarrassment. Huff has to be shown the door. Seymour is playing his last season in Oakland. The CB situation is absurdly bad. No edge rush whatsoever.
Can’t see any HC or DC having success with the current personnel.
Therefore, Tittyboy gets a pass from me on that front.
But offensively ?
Tittyboy and his pet Krapp must be held fully accountable for the shtty scheming, playcalling, ineffective use of personnel, inability to convert 3rd downs and score points.
I’ll accept that lack of talent on D is primarily responsible for our woes there.
I do not accept that lack of talent or ability is primarilly responsible for our woes on offense.
We were able to run the ball and score points with basically the same cast last season. The cast has NOT changed substantially enough to account for the utter futility this unit is displaying in comparison to last season’s version.
We can do better than Knapp. We MUST do better than Knapp.
If Smiling Tittyboy can’t part ways with his golf buddy then he’s got to be given his walking papers.
Simple as that.
Problems don’t cure themselves or just go away.
Tittyboy has to admit Krapp is a problem or he’ll be going away.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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Pathetic
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He should just get another RB in there because if he is so determined to run this scheme, there are others who can run it. It’s just a waste of talent. Just like Palmer being used in this way is a waste.
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I maintain that it’s tough to know with Palmer and DMAC in this offense simply because the oline is playing like trash right now. Now that’s. It to say I think Knapp is doing a good job. Someone is to blame for the crappy oline play, and not just the players. These guys are unprepared.
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Yeah, but why is the O-Line playing like crap? Looked really solid last year – only 1 new player in there which was supposed to be an upgrade.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RAIDERNATION :
THE DONKEES GAVE US A REAL RED ONE ALICE, A REAL RED ONE. ! Thanks to the KNAPP LOTION.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
DA: “This bye week gives us a chance as coaches to look at and evaluate what we’re doing, who we’re doing it with and come up with solutions that can help us get better and help us win some games.”
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Hey DA, its very simple. Try this: RUN THE BALL MAN!
Easy as that. Any offense that struggles its because they cant run the ball. So try spending these next 2 weeks on teaching your Oline how to block
Please? Pretty please with sugar on top?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I would add however, that if you put the O in a “have to pass” situation because you’re down by 30.
It limits your options because the D has you behind the * ball.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Hey old fool Kell,…it must be sad being an old man, illiterate like yourself,..posting the same stat about 3rd downs every ten minutes. Instead of getting listings, closing houses, you drag your old fat tired butt to the barbershop and grind your dentures with this 3rd down conversions obsession…youre an old failure dude, just like Big Dummy Reggie. Have another bowl of homney old man.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
At this juncture, a 1-3 team, heres why our defense is so bad.
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL THE TIME ON THE FIELD. BECAUSE THEY GET TIRED!!
And why is that, you say. Well, because Offense can convert 3rd downs.
Why is that sir? Because they cant run the ball!!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
who here would not trade the 6-2 division leading jc piloted team last year for this crap we are looking out today?
man this stinks
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Season over.
3-13, 4-12, 5-11. Pick one.
This season unlike any in the last 15 or so years will go down as the what should have been. Keep Hue, continuity, and get him a decent D cord. 8-8 and a playoff shot is looking real good right about now uh?
The repercussions of this piss poor decision look like they will have some real bad long term effects. The window of opportunity is a short one. Palmer is due like $13 million next year. Palmer will not be a Raider next year. DMAC is getting older. etc etc
They better give TP some playing time so we can see what he’s got. Reggie better not release him beforehand.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Why does everyone think you need to take steps backward before you can go forward? We were 8-8 the last two years why couldn’t Reggie build on that?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raider Len,
but how is it disappointing? Why would we be 2-2 or 3-1? We’ve had a bad roster for a DECADE and had to cut many above-average guys for cap reasons this off-season. We hired Knapp.
We played a GREAT Chargers team, the Steelers, an east coast team at their home (doesn’t matter who, that’s a loss), and Peyton Manning / Von Miller / Elvis Dumerville.
Just not sure why anyone is disappointed by 1-3.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Yeah, but why is the O-Line playing like crap? Looked really solid last year – only 1 new player in there which was supposed to be an upgrade.
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Agree here. Inexcusable.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
It’s frustrating that other teams don’t take 11 years to turn it around…. Fk…
October 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
ALABAMA and the OREGON DUCKS play the DONKEES better than Us ! ALABAMA 27– DONKEES-23
October 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Raiders allowed 125 points their first four games. That’s more than any Raiders team allowed during the first four games of a season during the Al Davis era.
***
Chuck Bresnahan is having a good chuckle!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Nah….. The Nudist Monkey is too drunk to notice.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I think every one must now admit that the team has fallen apart since jc broke his collar bone, and his leadership and production were greatly under valued by everyone in alameda not named DHB and Ford.
There is no way this happens with jc and hu jack
Davis hu jack Jc gone, and the raiders are now again the butt of jokes.
are you happy now?
October 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Heres another take on the state of afairs.
1- Al Davis never talked about rebuilding. Matt Millen errrr Regie is going to rebuild a champ here.
2- Never ever under Al Davis did a coach smile with the donkey coach at the end. Thats a bad sign guys… bad sign. We have coach who doesnt feel bad after a loss, cause he has a 4 yr contract. Wow.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
fingers Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
It’s frustrating that other teams don’t take 11 years to turn it around…. Fk…
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It’s because we’ve only had one coach that actually made the best use out of the personnel he had and that was Hue Jackson turning a atrocious offense into something immediately. Unfortunately he’s lost as a blindman on a raft about the defense, and didn’t even try to do anything about it expecting to just fire a DC and get to bring one in next year (which is what should’ve happened).
But Reggie’s got his gut and Hue’s got his big mouth and now we’ve got people playing out of sync, uncomfortable and looking like we have underskilled undrafted free agents starting on offense instead of the potent top 10 offense we should have.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raider Len,
but how is it disappointing? Why would we be 2-2 or 3-1? We’ve had a bad roster for a DECADE and had to cut many above-average guys for cap reasons this off-season. We hired Knapp.
We played a GREAT Chargers team, the Steelers, an east coast team at their home (doesn’t matter who, that’s a loss), and Peyton Manning / Von Miller / Elvis Dumerville.
Just not sure why anyone is disappointed by 1-3.
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I understand the purging of bad contracts, and new regime.
I can roll with that.
The “effort” I witnessed yesterday was Turible.
The Organization had their collective asses handed to them.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Hey old fool Kell,..come to the Jax game,..tailgate with us,..like always I bring a big can of pork n beans and corn bread for you in case you ever decide to join us. Bring your own Ripple.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
214, Wasnt it 4 and 2, KK, I mean M1
October 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
“why couldn’t Reggie build on last year’s 8-8″…
1) The cap problem was AMAZINGLY bad. Many don’t understand just how far we were over the cap. No amount of re-constructing contracts was going to fix this. Had to cut multiple solid players. Thus, we got a little worse.
2) Should have been 6-10 last year. Bowe drops easy game-icing catch in Oakland, Charger RB fumbles game away at 1-yard line, we play the Cutler-less Bears…
3) Because of problem 1, when our RT got hurt we had to pluck a street FA at RT who allowed Denver to dominate our offense.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@217 the Charger team is far from great. Guarantee you if Hue was still here he wouldn’t have kept on trying to punt the ball with no long snapper. From my couch I knew it was a bad idea the 1st time they tried it. I definitely knew it was a bad idea the 2nd time and so and so on.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
My opinion..Reggie Mac didn’t want to keep the coach who traded away the future of the organization for CP. We should had a back up plan for JC…Now we are rebuilding from the ground up!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Fingers Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
It’s frustrating that other teams don’t take 11 years to turn it around…. Fk…
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LOL!
Gotta allow Reggie to get some traction.
That was a fault of AL in the later years.
The RIGHT continuity will set up a franchise to be in the tournament every year.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
JT Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
At this juncture, a 1-3 team, heres why our defense is so bad.
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL THE TIME ON THE FIELD. BECAUSE THEY GET TIRED!!
And why is that, you say. Well, because Offense can convert 3rd downs.
Why is that sir? Because they cant run the ball!!
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That might be part of it but getting tired is no dam excuse. When you can’t force a punt all game, not even ONE freakin time, well just means they all suck, DL, LB’s, DB’s all of them SUCK PERIOD
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Am I the only Raider fan that hasn’t thrown in the towel, regarding THIS season ??
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Doofus Boob, just ignore my posts, ok? No need to follow me around begging for my attention everyday.
Get a life of your own. Btw, I’ll be in Switzerland next week.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Our O-line is playing like crap because they can’t execute the new system put in.
There’s some talent there, just not being used properly.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
224.. Good take… Plus , Al made a lot of HC changes and most of those moves were the wrong ones…
October 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Am I the only Raider fan that hasn’t thrown in the towel, regarding THIS season ??
No …I still believe. But there needs to be some big changes during bye week!
October 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
a talent-less team often does look like it’s playing with little effort. Doesn’t mean they are, they’re just not very good and their “efforts” don’t measure up to other teams’ talent+effort performance.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Am I the only Raider fan that hasn’t thrown in the towel, regarding THIS season ??
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Rockstar, I’ll show up every week, but as of now, things don’t look promising.
I’m an optimist, but I don’t believe in unicorns.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
It must be nice to own have of Europe old Kell…while youre there you should buy the other half.
October 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Come on RR, Jlaw
Some fans drink the kool-aid preseason. Silly but at least understandable in an “aww, isn’t that cute” way.
But for you two to STILL not have come back to reality…
October 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
nobody wanted Allen as HC
nobody wanted Knapp as OC
nobody wanted Tarver as DC
Reggie overpaid Branch & Seymour
adding a bunch of his buddies to the front office & former GB players to our squad
rookie GM. it’s to be expected I guess
October 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
“why couldn’t Reggie build on last year’s 8-8″…
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Because hu jack dismantled the team when he traded for palmer.
It ruined our locker room, was a major factor in hu’s self imposed firing and trapped us into even worse salary cap and draft pick hell.
If hu rides out the season with boller, he gets a pass for losing his starting qb, and maybe even enhances his rep if he can coax soemthing decent out of him.
If we had kept the nucleus of the team we big mack could have reigned in hu jack and hired a d coord.
oh well
October 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@288
1) I always heard how Al had all these cap problems, guess what, it never stopped him.
2) We could have just as easily been 10-6 as 6-10 last year, but it turns out we were 8-8.
3) You can’t blame yesterday’s debacle on one player the right tackle. And here’s an idea if that is the problem RUN THE OTHER WAY or adjust by giving him some help.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Am I the only Raider fan that hasn’t thrown in the towel, regarding THIS season ??
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Have we played game 16 yet? Then no, I am certainly not throwing in the towel. Or towelette.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Alex…I think today Allen said ” we have NFL players that should be able to play NFL football”… Pretty sure that’s what he was saying…
But I agree… These guys either haven’t bought into it or just aren’t the kind of players Allen needs …
October 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Hey old Kell, you know them Swiss, dont ya hate it when as soon as they see you they put a broom in your hand? Total disrespect.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
If hu rides out the season with boller,
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You lose your cred right there.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Broncos, Chargers & Chiefs aren’t very good.
Raiders just keep beating themselves!!
any team in the AFC West right now will lose in the first round of the playoffs. print it
October 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RRS-No you aren’t
October 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Come on RR, Jlaw
Some fans drink the kool-aid preseason. Silly but at least understandable in an “aww, isn’t that cute” way.
But for you two to STILL not have come back to reality…
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Alex7
Stranger things have happened. I’ll know more after bye week.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Raiders just keep beating themselves!!
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Na the Bronco’s beet the crap out of us.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
It’s nice to watch real LB’s play the game of football for a change
October 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Am I the only Raider fan that hasn’t thrown in the towel, regarding THIS season ??
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The ORG/ Team threw in the towl. 1-3!!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
reggie is worse than matt millen as a gm
October 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
A 1st year owner +1st year gm + 1st year coach +1st year dc + worst oc in football =a sorry football team.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
If hu rides out the season with boller,
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You lose your cred right there.
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simple question
what is better jc leading the raiders to 6-2 going undefeated in the division and setting raider scoring records….
or 1-3 with a qb that is 5-9 with more ints than starts?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Rockstar .. Seymour … I haven’t thrown the towel in either….I even backed tried to stay behind Russell till I felt foolish for doing so… I just kept thinking someone on that team gives schidt do I’ll support those that do give care… So no.. I haven’t given up…
October 1st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Al never had problems with the cap.
All of sudden Reggie comes in and has cap problem?? Maybe because Reggie is a bad GM. Cop out
October 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Our practice squad changes on a daily basis. I don’t know if it is due diligence or sheer panic.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
reggie is worse than matt millen as a gm
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Gotta give Reggie, what? 7 years? that Millen had to rank him among the all time busts. lol
October 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
So I’ll support…typo
October 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
a talent-less team often does look like it’s playing with little effort. Doesn’t mean they are, they’re just not very good and their “efforts” don’t measure up to other teams’ talent+effort performance.
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Bullchit…..
If we are talentless then how did we beat Pittsburgh and why have the scores of every game been close at halftime?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
meanwhile chargerssign chris carr and reggie is busy looking at gb trash heap…
October 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
talentless ? On any give Sunday
October 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Theirs still players on the team I like and play hard so I can’t thrown them under the bus… Gotta support them…
October 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
You Reggie McKenzie employees can’t have it both ways….
You pick your Coach..you pick your players….
And then you have your Coach blame your players….
And you want people to be patient?
Sell crazy someplace else…..we are all stocked up here!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Reggie reminds me of myself changing up my fantasy football roster, just adding and cutting players for no logical reason other than desperation
October 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
I am going to wait and see what Peyton Manning does to that weak ass Patriots defense next weekend before I throw ours to the wolves.
We just don’t have the talent or depth to compete in our division and that’s what happens when you pay Nnamdi 17 million and Seymour 15 million and Wimbly 15 million a year to play defense there is no money for any good back up (kind of like we had to let Bush go couldn’t afford him etc)
Its going to take a while to fix this we need about 20 – 30 good drafts picks.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
What if Reggie is planning on trading DMAC?? Would that help in the long run and hurt us in the near future? I like DMAC…but don’t know what we have to use as trade bait.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
257,it was 4 and 2 under jc…. pretty sure, look it up…
October 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I think every one must now admit that the team has fallen apart since jc broke his collar bone, and his leadership and production were greatly under valued by everyone in alameda not named DHB and Ford.
There is no way this happens with jc and hu jack
Davis hu jack Jc gone, and the raiders are now again the butt of jokes.
are you happy now?
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JC,
I suppose you could make a claim that he deserves to start, or just reel his tongue back in from around his knees. Plus, dude was always licking his fingers, like Drew Breeze.
Breeze is an idiot as well as is JC.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
“We’ve got a lot of work to do,” Allen said Monday, one day after the Raiders lost to the Denver Broncos 37-6. “We’ve got a lot of areas that we’ve got to improve on. This bye week comes at a good time for us, gives us a chance as coaches to look at and evaluate what we’re doing, who we’re doing it with and come up with solutions that can help us get better and help us win some games.”
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Better start by looking in the mirror, tittyboy.
You’ll see the douchenozzle that hired Krapp.
Evaluate that.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
aiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Broncos, Chargers & Chiefs aren’t very good.
Raiders just keep beating themselves!!
any team in the AFC West right now will lose in the first round of the playoffs. print it
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I agree, yet, we can’t even compete with 2 of them.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Bill Walsh went 1-16 in his first year as head coach.
Should he have been canned?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
213-the reason they are on the field so much is they can’t stop anybody.We are at the bottom of the league at getting off the field on 3rd downs.Our defense sucks.Quit blaming the offense.We have 3 sacks through 4 games.We have 0-yes ZERO- ints through 4 games.We have 2 takeaways.The defense is not carrying its weight.Out DEs suck.No QB pressure at all.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
wish we had nmamdi and wimbley and paid them big to stay instead of delivery truck drivers….
October 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Twocents Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Our practice squad changes on a daily basis. I don’t know if it is due diligence or sheer panic.
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Panic….but the Coaching staff would say there are creating competition…..
LOL….too bad there isn’t anyone competing with the Coaching Staff?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
a comparison between walsh and da? daym that was funny!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I keep thinking that John madden recommended Reggie… And I have loads of respect for Madden … He could be wrong about McKenzie but I still gotta give Reggie a couple years to see how it plays out
October 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Boss01 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Reggie reminds me of myself changing up my fantasy football roster, just adding and cutting players for no logical reason other than desperation
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LOL!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
You Reggie McKenzie employees can’t have it both ways….
You pick your Coach..you pick your players….
And then you have your Coach blame your players….
And you want people to be patient?
Sell crazy someplace else…..we are all stocked up here!
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It takes time.
Signed,
Scott Pioli
October 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Like other’s I’ll give Tarver a pass.
But…If He’s a mad scientist, and if scheme’s are a strength, you’d think that he could find a way to dial up an occasional pass rush. IDK.
No excuse in my book to see DMAC flounder.
That’s on Knapp and Pollack.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
If you get a house almost built and you blow it up then it will take you a while to build it back up.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Not saying Allen is Walsh. Just that if you were in charge he would have been canned.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RaidO Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Boss01 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Reggie reminds me of myself changing up my fantasy football roster, just adding and cutting players for no logical reason other than desperation
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LOL!
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That is sad..but True!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
JB Says:
Get off your soapbox. Pakmer was the one bright spot that we had. He had NOTHING to do with yesterday’s debacle. That was coaching and O-line. Palmer has been the company man, not badmouthing what he knows must be a crappy system and coordinator. He’s done everything he could to make it work.
You often have some very valid observations but when you get on your CP3 is the problem bandwagon, your credibility goes out the window. We get it that you don’t like Palmer. We get it that you don’t like the way JCampbell was treated. I haven’t gone into the race issue but you already know what many on this blog think about you regarding this issue. So, please move on to other topics related to the Raiders other than Palmer. He’s simply NOT the problem. Get over it, he’s the QB for the next couple of years.///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Thank you JB, hadn’t gotten around to saying the same thing before getting sidetracked and wouldn’t have said it as well.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
NFL Network didn’t even bother with us on Gameday
October 1st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I stood behind knapp once,I am not stupid enough to do it again.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Twocents Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Bill Walsh went 1-16 in his first year as head coach.
Should he have been canned?
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Bill Walsh was 2-14 in his first year.
And he took over a team that was 2-14 the previous season.
Are you trying to make a correlation between Dennis Allen and Bill Walsh?
You people and your logic trying to sell this regime disgust me.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
It’s pretty simple why we lost so bad to Denver. Manning abused two players who should not be starting CBs. Manning had all day to throw because Raiders have anemic pass rush. And, Raider O-line got bullied.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
275-Jimmy Johnson also had a terrible record his 1st year.A bunch of knee-jerk idiots.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
you didnt like davis you didnt like jc
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?????????
October 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
i would trade seymore and tk for wimbly strickly for passing downs
move houston inside with dez and put nessy at lde or try him inside
October 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I saw Nnamdi just get torched by the NYG’s last night. He also received 3 interference penalties. He didn’t break up one pass of 8 thrown his way. Never even put a hand on the ball.
Dude isn’t worth tits on a boar.
He did remind me very much of Routt. I guess that is the standard Raiders school of technique there.
The greatest “no shutdown, shutdown corner in the NFL.”
October 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
This team was 8-8 the last 2 years….
Right now….Reggie and DA would settle outta court on an 8-8 season immediately!
And you try to include BILL FRIGGIN WALSH into the discussion as a means of making a point?
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
wish we had nmamdi and wimbley and paid them big to stay instead of delivery truck drivers….
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You’re blaming Reggie for Nnamdi now???
October 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
We didn’t lose because of Greg Knapp.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Truepain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
NFL Network didn’t even bother with us on Gameday
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Humanitarians, that lot. lol
October 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
no one cares…they sold all you on the reggie signing but now that he skzs asz…they move on…
October 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
I’ve heard enough today….
Safe to say though the Reggie Supporters are much quiet each day….
Are you paying attention Reggie?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Gannon even went on and on last year about how smart it was for Mark Davis to hire McKenzie … He could be wrong to… But gotta give Reggie a real shot…. I think all the moves he’s made so far are not rebuilding moves but just to get by till he gets his draft picks and rids the roster of bloated contracts … Some of the moves have been head scratchers but maybe he’s got a plan…
October 1st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Twocents Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Bill Walsh went 1-16 in his first year as head coach.
Should he have been canned?
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He played a 17 game season? That’s impressive!
What was David Shula’s record in his first year as a Bunghole?
BTW, Shell II won the same number of games Walsh won his first season, but nice comparison.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Opppps…..sorry Reggie….
I meant quieter!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I’m still down with gut.
I’d cut ROMAC tomorrow.
No effort.
Walking dead in my book.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I’m not blaming injury. I’m not blaming the players
I’m looking right at the management & coaching for the rough start.
Tough task producing a winner out of the gate though, when you haven’t had more than 8 wins in 10 years!!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Watching video tape of the Raiders games, Huff said the most frustrating thing is, he and his defensive mates oftentimes are in position to make plays. Many times, the plays they aren’t making are the kind that has the potential to change the complexion of games.
“Plays are there to be made, but we just don’t make them when it’s time to make them … ,” Huff said. “We see what we can be. We’re still one play here, one play there. It’s there to be had. We just got to make the plays.”
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Mr. Non Impact speaks.
One of the softest non-playmaking overpaid crapbuckets ever has the audacity to speak about making a play. What a fkng joke this guy is.
7th year as a Raider:
6 interceptions.
5.5 sacks.
0 touchdowns.
GTFOOH Huff.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
We blaming Reggie for turning a 8-8 team with promise into a joke by bring in sorry players getting rid of a good offense and special teams for nothing.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Anyone who believes the QB is the problem with this team is a certified idiot and should have the decency to keep their mouth shut due to their ignorance-or bigotry.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Some of u guys should stop calling Tarver the mad scientist.
Really? This guy, who is he? What coaching acumen?
I was probably one of the few HOF posters here (I am)that did not drink that kool aid. Some of you are way beyond foolish.
Tarver is a guy, he took the job nobody wanted, got it?
Now lets move on.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I don’t think Palmers the problem… I’m glad we have him….
October 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Watching video tape of the Raiders games, Huff said the most frustrating thing is, he and his defensive mates oftentimes are in position to make plays. Many times, the plays they aren’t making are the kind that has the potential to change the complexion of games.
“Plays are there to be made, but we just don’t make them when it’s time to make them … ,” Huff said. “We see what we can be. We’re still one play here, one play there. It’s there to be had. We just got to make the plays.”
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Mr. Non Impact speaks.
One of the softest non-playmaking overpaid crapbuckets ever has the audacity to speak about making a play. What a fkng joke this guy is.
7th year as a Raider:
6 interceptions.
5.5 sacks.
0 touchdowns.
GTFOOH Huff.
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Cosigned.
Players Make Plays.
The end.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
truepain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
NFL Network didn’t even bother with us on Gameday
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That is because they have interns read this BLOG and inform them just how completely dysfunctional we have become!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
213-the reason they are on the field so much is they can’t stop anybody.We are at the bottom of the league at getting off the field on 3rd downs.Our defense sucks.Quit blaming the offense.We have 3 sacks through 4 games.We have 0-yes ZERO- ints through 4 games.We have 2 takeaways.The defense is not carrying its weight.Out DEs suck.No QB pressure at all.
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How stupid. The offense is at the bottom of the NFI in converting 3 rd downs.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
CORK : When you Talk to REGGIE Please ask him for Us.
RaiderNation –WHY IS THERE SO MANY RAIDER PLAYERS
FLAT THROW ON THE GROUND!
ESPN COUNTED 9 – LAST WEEK -On Highlights !
October 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Tarver is a guy, he took the job nobody wanted, got it?
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Seriously?
Al was dead.
I’d imagine there were a lot more Guys interested.
Nobody?
lol
October 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
On further review, Tarver is a puppet for DA.
And who is DA for real. A guy that took last years Denver defense from 32 to 20?
Wow, what a success?
OH, but he has that IT factor….
October 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
It’s not Tarver’s fault that our 2 starting CBs are injured. It’s not Tarver’s fault that the 2 backup CBs that Al Drafted were not good enough to make the team. It’s not Tarver’s fault that Reggie was stuck with over payed players on defense who don’t produce. It’s not Tarver’s fault that we have Rolando McBosworth at MLB.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
WOW… This Guy rips into Coach Allen and the entire Raiders Funny and he nailed some key points. See for yourslef. WOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcR_HkDr2I&feature=share&list=UUsHirDT_EqUoeIq5k1lw8mA
October 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Anyone who believes the QB is the problem with this team is a certified idiot and should have the decency to keep their mouth shut due to their ignorance-or bigotry.
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5-9 as the starter,2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts.
This isnt a problem?
how is pointing to this glaring issue bigotry or ignorance
your hero is flopping miserably we were far better last year with hu and jc.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Can’t score in the Red Zone or convert 3rd downs, yet the blog monkeys are going to put the blame on Seymour or McClain.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Yeah, I screwed up the record. The point I was trying to make is that you can’t give up on someone when they don’t get instant results.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
It seems strange to think of it now, in the midst of so much wreckage, but if you could time-travel back to Sunday morning, you might have had some actual optimism about the Raiders.
They were coming off a 34-31 win over the Steelers. The Broncos had taken back-to-back losses, and the newest instantaneous analysis of Peyton Manning was that he had lost the zip on his passes and might not again be the same Manning. The Raiders hadn’t lost at whatever-corporate-name is slapped on Mile High Stadium since Lane Kiffin’s brief, disastrous reign.
And the Raiders now have Dennis Allen, who was the Broncos’ defensive coordinator just a year ago. Surely, the bright young head coach would have some tricks up his sleeve for his old team.
But optimism is a short-lived commodity when it comes to the Raiders. Every step forward seems to be accompanied by several steps back.
Sunday was a big, big step back. As bad as the loss at Miami. As bad as anything offered in the past several years of mediocre football. The 37-6 loss to Denver was the Raiders’ worst loss to the Broncos since 1962. The year before Al Davis joined the team.
“It was an old-fashioned butt-whipping,” Carson Palmer said.
His coach agreed.
“They out-coached us, they outplayed us, they beat us in every phase of the game,” Allen said.
That about covers it. The Raiders are 1-3 and have appeared inept on the road. They won’t lose next weekend – they have a bye. But then they hit the road again, to play red-hot Atlanta. Good luck finding any optimism heading into that game.
The Raiders are in rebuilding mode, but that’s frustrating for fans to hear when the rebuilding just goes on and on and on. Consecutive seasons of 8-8 records should be something on which to build, not cause for another restart. Especially when so many players on the Raiders – the starting quarterback, running back, the defensive front – are supposed to be ready for winning right now.
The Raiders, almost exactly one year after Davis’ death, have no identity. They have things they haven’t had before, like a powerful general manager, a head coach with job security and a brand-new media guide full of actual information.
But they don’t have a personality or – to the naked eye – a clear direction. They’re not strange or dysfunctional, but they’re simply not very interesting, either. Not when they play as they did Sunday.
Funny that Palmer should bring up offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. The quarterback must realize that Raider Nation has focused its wrath on Knapp, with some legitimate reason. The offense was rolling under Hue Jackson last year but has gone backward under Knapp, with mostly the same cast of players. On Sunday, the Raiders ran some misdirection plays early that worked, but drive after drive faltered. In contrast, the Broncos didn’t punt once.
A quarter through the season, the Raiders sit tied with Kansas City at the bottom of the AFC West. There are some winnable games on the schedule, but after a performance like Sunday’s, there’s little reason for optimism.
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From ane killion .. I gotta agree been saying Raiders have Zero Idenity
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Raiders-ugly-loss-dashes-any-optimism-3907554.php#ixzz281gQ6eZA
October 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
PLAIN n FCKN SIMPLE. FORMER OLINE COACH BOB WYLIE SPEAKS ON DMAC
Wylie, who was let go after one successful season when the new regime came in, thinks that McFadden is a bad fit for the zone blocking scheme.
“I thought that Darren was a back that ran downhill and off tackle,” Wylie told SiriusXM NFL Radio. “He is so fast, he out runs the zone block. … Sometimes your better off just pitching him that ball and letting him run around the corner and around the D. He can do that.”
Under coach Hue Jackson last year, the Raiders ran a gap and power-blocking scheme and finished 7th in the NFL in rushing. They’re 31st now.
“You have to fit what (McFadden) does, not what you want to do as a coach,” Wylie said.
Wylie speaking Truth. PRobaly why WIZ senior left. Ive been saying we have no idenity since week 1 though. Seems like Palmer got some of his friends together and is playing a pickup football game on offense smh
October 1st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
How stupid. The offense is at the bottom of the NFI in converting 3 rd downs.
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A part of that problem might be because we are playing from behind, and the D limits our opportunities on O, because the D never provides a 3 and out.
I’d add that because we can’t run the ball for shiiit, when the score is close, it takes the O “off schedule”
It’s a magnificent cluster fuuuck storm.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
316.RaiderLen Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Tarver is a guy, he took the job nobody wanted, got it?
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Seriously?
Al was dead.
I’d imagine there were a lot more Guys interested.
Nobody?
lol
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Then why did DA hire a college coach to be DC?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
166.DKnight007 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.
Say what you want but in the last ten years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.
Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.
Now we are 3 years backwards
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Yep and it’s sad. Davis and McK screwed up big time by getting rid of Hue Jackson!
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yep
October 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
give me TP 6
there is no other reason to watch this year unless you like miserable losing and boring on top of that.
we have scored 13-14-and 6 in our losses, the instant palmer powered Juggernaut is an epic failure and a myth
our once potent offense is now a sleeping aid
October 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
JT Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Then why did DA hire a college coach to be DC?
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Because his first umpteen choices (Bill Johnson, Joe Vitt Jr, etc) were blocked from interviewing by their current teams.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
We the Jury at -RaiderNation find you–GUILTY AS CHARGE !
Penalty – WE DON’T WANT YOUR AUTOGRAPHS, Keep them!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
You guys do realize that Raiders have no CBs right now, right? You do realize that it was Big Ben and Manning who picked our defense apart, right? Seymour and Kelly, our supposed leaders, are doing nothing to help those DBs out.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Hey,KK,the defense is also at the bottom for stopping teams on 3rd down.For running offenses (and most others) getting into a rhythm is important.While our offense has been less than good,it wis difficult to get into any rhythm when you are on the bench for approx. 38 minutes a game-long drives by the opponent EVERY time they have the ball.Two questions for you, smart a$$-How many TOs did we have yesterday?How many times did Den. punt?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
We were allready 8-8, now we go into full on rebuild, and reset the team, why?
166.DKnight007 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.
Say what you want but in the last ten years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.
Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.
Now we are 3 years backwards
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Yep and it’s sad. Davis and McK screwed up big time by getting rid of Hue Jackson!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
DA, check it out.
Just fix that frigin OL and blocking system, then youll see like magic, wins!
Championship teams are always built around the running game. Why?
Check it out: BECAUSE IT MAKES THE OLINE TOUGH. Actually all the team becomes tough.
Yeah, everybody laughed at Hue when he tried to bring his Baltimore way of doing things, building a bully.
Now we are being bulliend each sunday.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Can’t score in the Red Zone or convert 3rd downs, yet the blog monkeys are going to put the blame on Seymour or McClain.
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Defense can’t get off the field on 3rd down, not because of penalty, but rather ineptness.
Seymour is/has been done.
I loved His remark about being anxious to get back on the field during the bye.
Dude hardly practices.
F…ing hypocrite.
McClain is a no hustle fool.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, all of our WRs have been hurt to. I do blame the lack of a running game on Knapp and the ZBS,though.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
my only problem with cp3 is he is like a statue zero mobility cant roll out
he also stares down his recievers no pump fakes or look offs and he throws into double and triple coverage at times
winning and losing does not seem to effect him i blame his time with the bungles for that
but other than that hes great
October 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
“Lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Anyone who believes the QB is the problem with this team is a certified idiot and should have the decency to keep their mouth shut due to their ignorance-or bigotry.”
POST OF THE YEAR RIGHT HERE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I kind of want to see JC play for the Bears to see how he does.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
the raiders were 1-12 on 3rd down yesterday, this is a direct reflection on the qb. in fact we have been piss poor on this down all year.
Your defense will get smoked every week with this kind of trash production
October 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Not my hero,bigot.People like FDR,Truman,MLK,Dr. Salk,my DAD,etc.-those are my heros not some football player.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
you do realize reggie dumped our corners? picked up never-beens….
October 1st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
NO joke KNAPP should not be OC anymore. Doesnt the Raiders have like Records like “the books” how does REGGIE not know KNAPP was here already b4 in 07 and sucked
YO ALLEN .. I like u dude.. but if u stick to KNAPP cuz he is ur golfin buddy im gonna have to revaluate u too man.
How hard is it to go to saunders and ask him.. Help a brotha out on offense. How hard is it to like at the film and GAME TAPE OF LAST YEARS OFFENSE?? How hard is it to talk to DMAC ??
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Al Davis, he knew a thing or two about selecting coaches, you see.
He got it right with Gruden and Hue. Problem is, when Al died, Hue couldnt function properly with all the disfunction around him and injuries.
But Al knew coaching talent, sometimes he didnt, I agree. But he got it right with Hue. He wanted a bully offense from a bully team, the ravens.
That 2010 season was magic wasnt it, how we ran the ball.
I doubt it that Al would have selected DA as coach.
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October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Tarver gets a pass from me.
Not expecting ANYONE to succceed with SCRUBS like 55 and 24 being counted on to produce.
24 talks ish but brings nada.
55 is a snail that will be out of the NFL come 2013.
Pathetic that these two turkeys are even on the roster, much less starting.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Raiders might be able to beat the Cowboys.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
the raiders were 1-12 on 3rd down yesterday, this is a direct reflection on the qb. in fact we have been piss poor on this down all year.
Your defense will get smoked every week with this kind of trash production
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Right because after Palmer hands the ball to DMAC he’s supposed to lead him thru the hole.
C’mon man.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
IF YOU CAN’T PLAY LIKE A RAIDER GET OUT !!-WE DON’T NEED YOU SIGNS!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
you do realize reggie dumped our wrs to pick up never-beens? see a patern here?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
the raiders were 1-12 on 3rd down yesterday, this is a direct reflection on the qb. in fact we have been piss poor on this down all year.
Your defense will get smoked every week with this kind of trash production
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Lol! We didn’t force a single punt! Got a gift fumble and a gift fake FG.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Watching video tape of the Raiders games, Huff said the most frustrating thing is, he and his defensive mates oftentimes are in position to make plays. Many times, the plays they aren’t making are the kind that has the potential to change the complexion of games.
“Plays are there to be made, but we just don’t make them when it’s time to make them … ,” Huff said. “We see what we can be. We’re still one play here, one play there. It’s there to be had. We just got to make the plays.”
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Mr. Non Impact speaks.
One of the softest non-playmaking overpaid crapbuckets ever has the audacity to speak about making a play. What a fkng joke this guy is.
7th year as a Raider:
6 interceptions.
5.5 sacks.
0 touchdowns.
GTFOOH Huff.
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Yeah, the same guy who had the nerve to blame Al in the off-season for the defensive woes. Hey mainstream media, how about asking a real question to Reggie McKenzie this week on how are Defense sucks to historical proportions, just suffered the worst loss to the Donkos since 1962 and why was his HC all giddy after losing?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
you do realize reggie dumped our wrs to pick up never-beens? see a patern here?
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Our new receivers are improvements over what we had.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Not my hero,bigot.People like FDR,Truman,MLK,Dr. Salk,my DAD,etc.-those are my heros not some football player.
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i see you didnt answer my question punk
pointing out that palmer is 5-9 in oakland with a pathetic 2-4 division record and 18 picks in 14 starts is bigotry?
HOW
October 1st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
you do realize reggie dumped our corners? picked up never-beens….
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You do realize he dumped two corners who were overpayed and couldn’t force one punt when the division was on the line, right?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
ESPN -SAYS -COUNTS 9 RAIDERS ON THE GROUND. !
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Romo called Slolando a puppy hunter? Too perfect.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
I thought we were getting an upgrade in coaches. We are worse than the teams from the last two years. DUMP that zone blocking scheme and watch McFadden run wild which will keep the offense on the field. Some people say trade DMAC but if you trade him he is going to flourish.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
99,
excuse me?
you’re targeting Huff??
he’s clearly better than Giordano, Branch, Lee & Hanson
heck – he might even be better than Bartell & Spencer, but we haven’t seen enough of them!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
you do realize reggie dumped our wrs to pick up never-beens? see a patern here?
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What?
He dumped Murphy.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Cowboys just cost me a fantasy win this week.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Hey, I bet if you repost your point 15 times under 15 different handles on a blog, you can be king of the d-bags. It’s almost like having someone to talk to in real life.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
you see these players on the bears defense they hit hard and violent they have a deep seeded desire to bring a guy down to the ground and bring him down hard maybe even causing pain on the way down to the ground.
Tackling is a mentality look at this bears defense or the Ravens defense these players hit you hard and they are violent they want to bring you down hard…
HOW many players on our team have that mentality….how many guys on our defense could play on this bears defense?
Not very many and that my blog friends is why it is going to take a few years of drafting to get those kind of players..I think Romonowski calls them boar hunters!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
like what we had on subday was better…you gotta frkin kidding me
October 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Darren Mcfadden should be a RAIDER 4 Lyfe!! He is not some byytch. He plays hard for his team! Who remembers those long runs in 2010 and 2011? Who remembers that Jacksonsville game in 2010? That was straight power blocking!!
Darren Mcfadden has more RANK then Dennis Allen imo. Darren should have enough power to fire KNAPP. it would be like
BREAKING NEWS :
Darren McFadden first player in history to fire his Offensive Coordinator. Apparently AL davis put it in DMACS contract that gave him this type of control. Nobody knew till Darren chose to excersize that option today and fire Knapp!
Reggie Mckenzie had zero clue.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
People get let go and re hired all the time.
Bring Hue back!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Yeah, Hue was all about building a bully, having some swagger, playing true Raider football in the mold of Al Davis. Being physical. Tough. Swinging for the fences. But also playing to his players’ strengths.
DA, Reggie Mac and the new Raiders are more concerned with public relations, guys’ religous devotion, and implementing some soft-azz style of play. DA is masquerading as an NFL coach and Chubby Checker is a loser. How about DA getting all giddy with Coach Fox after yesterday’s drubbing? What is this? That weak-azz attitude of the new, ankle-grabbing Raiders is what got our azzes kicked in the first place.-
October 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Romo called Slolando a puppy hunter? Too perfect.
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Credible source that played the position.
Just confirms a reality that has become apparent to Me.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
I’d rather have Derrick Gibson and Anthony dorsett.. even marques pope over Michelle Huff.. Tyvanta Branch and Monique Mitchell
October 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
“HOW many players on our team have that mentality….how many guys on our defense could play on this bears defense?”
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I think Burris is one of those types. A very solid tackler.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
99,
excuse me?
you’re targeting Huff??
he’s clearly better than Giordano, Branch, Lee & Hanson
heck – he might even be better than Bartell & Spencer, but we haven’t seen enough of them!
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Huff sucks.
Big mouth, no game.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
like what we had on subday was better…you gotta frkin kidding me
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You don’t even know how to speak properly, and your grammar is atrocious. STFU already.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
The starting corners are Huff, somebody named Joselio Hanson and Pat Lee who are nothing more than practice squad players if that.
No wonder the defense can’t force a punt.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Branch is the highest paid player in the secondary.
He’s also the worst player in the secondary!
if DeMary Thomas hadn’t fumbled all by himself trying to switch the ball into his other hand while streaking down the sideline, TB would be on the trade block for a 6th rounder right now
I mean, he gets credit for the “forced fumble” doesn’t he ?? lol
October 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
like what we had on subday was better…you gotta frkin kidding me
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Receiver-wise? Sure it was. Murphy’s one catch for eight yards would have placed him 8th on our team yesterday.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
1 0f 12 3rd down conversions? Seriously?
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Wow 1 of 12. How can anyone possibly defend this?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
344.JT Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Al Davis, he knew a thing or two about selecting coaches, you see.
He got it right with Gruden and Hue. Problem is, when Al died, Hue couldnt function properly with all the disfunction around him and injuries.
But Al knew coaching talent, sometimes he didnt, I agree. But he got it right with Hue. He wanted a bully offense from a bully team, the ravens.
That 2010 season was magic wasnt it, how we ran the ball.
I doubt it that Al would have selected DA as coach.
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Don’t forget that same year under Marshall, the Raiders D tied for 2nd in sacks.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Why 9 Players on the Ground? FLAT on the Ground :
GUESS?
#A – Lost a Gold Chain?
#B- Somebody is shooting?
#C- GREG KNAPP LOTION?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
“HOW many players on our team have that mentality….how many guys on our defense could play on this bears defense?”
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I think Burris is one of those types. A very solid tackler.
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Wheeler as well.
Dude is all over the field.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
I can hear Hue Jackson right now…. “1 and 12 ..’Wow’ ..’Wow’”
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Honestly our best team the past two year was Jason campbell 2nd year in this system. THe first 5 weeks last year we were ballin despite that defense.
No way we should have to crushing losses in 4 weeks.
Who remembers the offense at the buffalo last year? New york jets? We beat the f’n texans last year at in Texas with J campbell. OUR O was clickin smh what could have been .
Now all I have is hue jacksons post game pressers and 2011 Raider highlights to look at on utube!!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
So if DA gets his ass handed to him next year does he get the Josh McDaniels treatment?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
The very first thing to do defensively is bench him. He’s a lost case and a disgrace to the silver & black uniform. Let Goethal start at MLB. Next is to downgrade Seymour to second level DT rotation. Bryant should be the starter. Our defensive backfield is a disaster. I don’t know how you fix this with the personnel we have. One thing is for sure, tighten up the coverage significantly. No more 10 yard buffer zones.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Our Defense is dead last in the NFL and our rushing offense is dead last after appearing in the top 5 these last few years….Our field position and special teams have to be dead last as well…..you expect any QB to function properly or win in this kind of environment?
Even more retarded…lets put a third string rookie in there and see how he does in these retched circumstances.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
wish al never made hue the hc and locked him in as the oc that would have been good
October 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
#382 lost the first part of post. Talking about benching McCheese.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I can clearly remember everyone telling me that this wasnt a rebuild and palmer was the answer, “he only needs a healthy dmac” “he only needs a healthy moore” “he only needs a full off season”
Funny most of them are no where to be found today
This is a full rebuild and i told you that is exactly where a palmer led team would end up.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Dan Marino,Warren Moon,Randell Cunningham,Jim Kelly-all great QBs that never won.Would anyone be foolish enough to say they were the problem and the reason none of their teams ever won the SB?
October 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
JB Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
The very first thing to do defensively is bench him. He’s a lost case and a disgrace to the silver & black uniform. Let Goethal start at MLB. Next is to downgrade Seymour to second level DT rotation. Bryant should be the starter. Our defensive backfield is a disaster. I don’t know how you fix this with the personnel we have. One thing is for sure, tighten up the coverage significantly. No more 10 yard buffer zones.
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I’m down with this.
McCheese needs to hit the sideline.
Bryant is a better player than Kelly or Seymour.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Yeah, Hue was all about building a bully, having some swagger, playing true Raider football in the mold of Al Davis. Being physical. Tough. Swinging for the fences. But also playing to his players’ strengths.
DA, Reggie Mac and the new Raiders are more concerned with public relations, guys’ religous devotion, and implementing some soft-azz style of play. DA is masquerading as an NFL coach and Chubby Checker is a loser. How about DA getting all giddy with Coach Fox after yesterday’s drubbing? What is this? That weak-azz attitude of the new, ankle-grabbing Raiders is what got our azzes kicked in the first place.-
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Word!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
McKenzie and Allen took a team with a good NFL offense that was close to being an elite NFL offense, but had some very serious problems on defense and made it into a horrible team on both sides of the ball. The switch in blocking scheme set the team way back, and the inability to run the ball has allowed opposing defenses to tee of with their pass rush. It remains to be seen if the switch in blocking schemes will pay dividends in the long run, but in the short term it has made a team that was capable of competing into one of the bottom teams in the league. This brain trust has also showed no ability to make adjustments, and as a result they have been being totally outplayed in the second half.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
OK….
I’m a huge Raider fan. Have been since before a lot of you were born. My earliest Raider memories are from the 1970 season.
Number one. The raiders stopped being the “Raiders” when they moved to L.A.
Number two. They’ve had maybe 7 good seasons since the move.
Number three. Most of you need to get a life. I’ve identified maybe 10 posters who actually know Raider football. The rest of you are talking a bunch of useless ghetto crap.
Number four. I’m not going to identify by handle the ones who have a clue.
Number five. Raider fan til I die, but this stuff is ridiculous. I won’t find a new team. I will stop giving a sh1t about football.
It’s not about who has the coolest crap to spew here. It’s not about who has the biggest tailgate.
It’s about which team makes the rest of the league afraid to come to Oakland and play because of what happens on the field.
That part has been missing for almost 30 years.
Have a nice night.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
“RaiderLen Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
“HOW many players on our team have that mentality….how many guys on our defense could play on this bears defense?”
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I think Burris is one of those types. A very solid tackler.
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Wheeler as well.
Dude is all over the field.”
I would agree with you both 100% 2 hard hitting physical players that seem to have a nose for the ball we need 11 of those kind of guys!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Our Defense is dead last in the NFL and our rushing offense is dead last after appearing in the top 5 these last few years….Our field position and special teams have to be dead last as well…..you expect any QB to function properly or win in this kind of environment?
Even more retarded…lets put a third string rookie in there and see how he does in these retched circumstances.
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dude stop the excuses
we were not dead last in rushing offense last year and he still stunk and led losses.
he has a healthy dmac, and moore, a full off season he is rust free, knows the playbook and so on.
HE ISNT CUTTING THE MUSTARD OR DELIVERING THE INSTANT JUST ADD WATER SUPER BOWL CONTENDER OR HIGH FLYING OFFENSE THAT YOU AND OTHERS SAID HE WOULD!!!!!
HE sucks and his team is a joke, almost as funny as watching him yell at players while he is also stinking out the place.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Actually i hope somebody starts a rumor that the Raiders are bringing back Hue. Just to put Reggie on the spot so he has to comment on it. That would be great.
What a mess.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Problem with Soup as a starter was you never knew when he would go down with a stinger. Eventually he got his collar bone broke……it was just a matter of time.
If JC was the starting QB for the Bears, I would give him 4 to 6 games before he gets hammered.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I can clearly remember everyone telling me that this wasnt a rebuild and palmer was the answer, “he only needs a healthy dmac” “he only needs a healthy moore” “he only needs a full off season”
Funny most of them are no where to be found today
This is a full rebuild and i told you that is exactly where a palmer led team would end up.
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I think Palmer, DMAC, DWOW are great components for an Offense.
You gotta be able to block, and you gotta have a scheme.
I’ve seen glimpses of scheme, and blocking, but I’ve not yet seen any consistency in execution.
If you think Palmer is the problem, have at it.
I don’t agree.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I doubt it that Al would have selected DA as coach.
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Al would have hired someone like Dennis Green or Kevin Gilbride.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
TO THE FILM ROOM U —SO# OF . ?+/????????MOTH?#$?/
PLAYOFF PLAYOFF –? —PLAYOFFS!
GET OUT OF HERE !!
October 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I would agree with you both 100% 2 hard hitting physical players that seem to have a nose for the ball we need 11 of those kind of guys!
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That will take a long while. lol
October 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Should have signed Burfict. That was a steal.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Dan Marino,Warren Moon,Randell Cunningham,Jim Kelly-all great QBs that never won.Would anyone be foolish enough to say they were the problem and the reason none of their teams ever won the SB?
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still refusing to answer my questions but ok.
those guys won playoff games, most will be/ are hall of fame players.
i would take all of them over palmer.
You cant separate palmer from the losses his play is a prt of the reason.
he has sucked in oakland period. Even though he has improved this year, it still only barley serviceable.
Im going to predict a a major implosion form palmer, one of those 3-4 pick doozeys he is known for, coming soon.
he folds like a lawn chair under pressure, and after a 1-3 start with pedestrian stats, his seat is hotter than a hookers crotch
October 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Should have signed Burfict. That was a steal.
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I agree. He was certainly worth a 6th round pick which is where I think he fell. He couldn’t be any worse than McCheese.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Can’t convert 3rd downs, Can’t score in the Red Zone since preseason. Yet the homers are trying to scapegoat McClain, Seymour or Huff. All black players of course, on “Raider Welfare”, I’m sure.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Yep burfict should have been taken in the 7th round over STUPAR.. probaly would have been our starting MLB at some point this year.
Al believe in JC and we did some cool trick plays with him in 2010 ..that game in denver was on point. He had a great game in jacksonville. btw a week b4 he got injured last year. There was rumors Al was talking contract extension. Even at hue press conference when he was hired.. he was talking about how u dont give up on Qb’s and was compairing Jason to Cam newton in college ha.
But ya Al was gonna give Jason a contract extension ..it was being talked about week 4 of last season. Plus he had crazy chemistry with the WR’s
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
I keep seeing put in Pryor,start Pryor for a spark. LOL.Dumbest raider fans in the world are this blog.I fkn swear.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
believed*
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Can’t convert 3rd downs, Can’t score in the Red Zone since preseason. Yet the homers are trying to scapegoat McClain, Seymour or Huff. All black players of course, on “Raider Welfare”, I’m sure.
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Can we please keep race out of this? Slavery ended almost 150 years ago. Move on, people.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
How many int’s has Palmer thrown this season? 1?
Without a defense, and no running game, and under duress.
I’d say he’s accounted Himself well to this point.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady
October 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
i think we burned too many bridges with some good coordinators and coaches over the last few years
October 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Can’t convert 3rd downs, Can’t score in the Red Zone since preseason. Yet the homers are trying to scapegoat McClain, Seymour or Huff. All black players of course, on “Raider Welfare”, I’m sure.
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KK,
a few of us tried to warn them this is where we were headed in the pre season. They said “its only pre season” and other weak excuses.
well looks like we were right, loserville here we come….again
October 1st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Mclain,Seymore,Huff. Yes they all suck.Dont forget about bottom lip either.He’s black to ya know. Idiot.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
KK
McCheese is a turd no matter what color you paint him. It’s not about color. It’s about heart, performance & results. To date, McCheese has demonstrated NONE. He needs to go. PERIOD!
October 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady
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5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division, 18 picks in 14 starts…
this isnt a problem?
October 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Can’t convert 3rd downs, Can’t score in the Red Zone since preseason. Yet the homers are trying to scapegoat McClain, Seymour or Huff. All black players of course, on “Raider Welfare”, I’m sure.
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Just for you Kell.
Carlisle and Briesel get blown up regularly and IMO are a part of the reason we can’t run the Ball, as well as the game plan and blocking scheme of our “white” coaches.
Hows that?
C’mon Man!
October 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
there are only 3 guys i want to see taking snaps for this team next year tp6 geno smith or ej manual
October 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
The blog bigot has spoken!
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KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
McClain, Seymour or Huff. All black players of course, on “Raider Welfare”, I’m sure.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Yep i agree its like not only does our Defense suck.. but we are basically playin 7-7 without a MLB.
I think Branch is an above average player he would stand out more in a great defense like 49ers. Problem he gets zero help. No D RUSH.. NO interior line. NO MLB… so he is always the last line of defense when the ball carrier gets right through our horrible d
October 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Still remember all the arguments I had on this blog before the season. Laughing at sht like Streater our new starter,Crinor best wideout on the team..Fkn hilarious morons on this blog.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
carlisle is clearly passed it, and was man handled yesterday repeatedly
he sucks
October 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
KK hows Reggie’s record as a GM so far? Now that you put your stamp of approval on the “gut”
October 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Yep burfict should have been taken in the 7th round over STUPAR.. probaly would have been our starting MLB at some point this year.
Al believe in JC and we did some cool trick plays with him in 2010 ..that game in denver was on point. He had a great game in jacksonville. btw a week b4 he got injured last year. There was rumors Al was talking contract extension. Even at hue press conference when he was hired.. he was talking about how u dont give up on Qb’s and was compairing Jason to Cam newton in college ha.
But ya Al was gonna give Jason a contract extension ..it was being talked about week 4 of last season. Plus he had crazy chemistry with the WR’s
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Yeah i can’t understand why some on this blog bag on JC so much. Before the injury he was on the rise. His play was improving every game. He was starting to get real comfortable in the offense.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
99,
excuse me?
you’re targeting Huff??
he’s clearly better than Giordano, Branch, Lee & Hanson
heck – he might even be better than Bartell & Spencer, but we haven’t seen enough of them!
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Huff sucks.
Big mouth, no game.
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You bet I’m targeting Huff.
I rank him right up there with the other notable Raider high first round BUSTS.
The numbers speak for themselves. Huff’s lack of productivity is shockingly bad.
Besides his pathetically low interception and sack totals (and 00000 TD’s), Huffypoo is as soft as Charmin.
Hasn’t made an authoritative hit yet. Weak tackler.
Talks crap. Excuse maker. Laughable nonsense like he needs Nnamdi in Philly to advise him not to give 12 yard cushions.
Real reason he gives 12 yard cushions ?
If he doesn’t he’ll be toasted like he was in Jax 2 years ago.
You DON’T see Huff making plays.
Never will.
Only time you notice him is when you see #24 trailing a WR or RB into the EZ.
Huff SUX.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
I forgot that Tom Flores coached the Seahawks. He was 14-34.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady
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5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division, 18 picks in 14 starts…
this isnt a problem?
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This year he is not. of course I never wanted palmer. I was saying when Jcampbell went down.. dont even think about it. Palmer would be a mistake. Its like he plays in cement. Would set the franchise back. It has forsure as far as draft picks go and money being wasted on him. but we are stuck with him. This year he has not been part of the problem.
Jason campbell was getting paid 4 million a year. Guess what Palmer is being paid. 12 million a year SMH
October 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Oh yeah, JC was wonnerful…….if ya could get his tongue rolled back up into his mouth from around his knees.
Worshipers, the guy is and was a knothead.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
KK, no one is blaming Slo for the defensive woes. But he is part of the problem. His performance is not up to the expectations that were put on him. He couldn’t start on the Arizona Rattlers. He’s bad, he is that bad.
I’d rather see Curry in there at MLB with bum knees. At least there would be a boar hunter back there.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Palmer dropped his salary to vet minimum when asked to do so. Not making $12M, making $785,000. Next…
October 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Paying CP $12M/year is the most riduculous thing I have ever heard. Should have just gone with Boller and eased in TP.
To pay wornout trash like CP that much money…….well it’s pimp courtesy.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
I keep seeing put in Pryor,start Pryor for a spark. LOL.Dumbest raider fans in the world are this blog.I fkn swear.
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Not dumb Raiders. Raiders will probably go 4-12,5-11. It will be a wasted season. Palmer is due $13 million next year. Either Palmer takes a huge pay cut or he is gone.
Might as well see what TP has. If TP looks good the Raiders can build on that.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
DEFENSE IS GETTING TIRE OF THE OFFENSE S#IT !
October 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RaidO Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Yep burfict should have been taken in the 7th round over STUPAR.. probaly would have been our starting MLB at some point this year.
Al believe in JC and we did some cool trick plays with him in 2010 ..that game in denver was on point. He had a great game in jacksonville. btw a week b4 he got injured last year. There was rumors Al was talking contract extension. Even at hue press conference when he was hired.. he was talking about how u dont give up on Qb’s and was compairing Jason to Cam newton in college ha.
But ya Al was gonna give Jason a contract extension ..it was being talked about week 4 of last season. Plus he had crazy chemistry with the WR’s
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Yeah i can’t understand why some on this blog bag on JC so much. Before the injury he was on the rise. His play was improving every game. He was starting to get real comfortable in the offense.
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its deeper than that it wasnt just his on field production but most important was his leadership.
The team respected him because of his blue collar work ethic and the fact that he was beating adversity. written off in washington, and told he couldnt start over gradkowski here.
He was the glue and back bone of that team, we have gone in the complete opposite direction after he went down and have yet to recover.
this is what was so miserably under valued, on top of the fact that he was beginning to master that offense.
yep the 4-2 raiders of last year were the best team and qb we have had since our super bowl run and this cant be refuted
October 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Can’t convert 3rd downs, Can’t score in the Red Zone since preseason. Yet the homers are trying to scapegoat McClain, Seymour or Huff. All black players of course, on “Raider Welfare”, I’m sure.
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Can we please keep race out of this? Slavery ended almost 150 years ago. Move on, people.
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I wish we could.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
LOL at this:
“Al Davis always had cap problems and he found a way…”
Al’s Raiders BROKE NFL RECORD for consecutive 10+ loss seasons.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
michael puff stinks to high heaven, between diving for ankles, and getting smoked in coverage he is worthless
October 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
KK, as you perpetuate racial bigotry you also condone it. A hypocrite and a racist! Your white wife left you and it’s been bitter times ever since, yeah?
October 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
I am blaming Slo-Mo partly for the Raiders defensive woes. He’s pure trash.
I hope he is convicted and does a couple of years on the chain gang in Alabamy……..
October 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
“Al Davis always had cap problems and he found a way…”
Al’s Raiders BROKE NFL RECORD for consecutive 10+ loss seasons
if that’s called “found a way” then yeah…
October 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Thats It–LETS BRING THE SASQUASH!
PLAYOFFS!
October 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
416-that is exactly why you are what you are.I’d say I want the best QB we could get/have taking all the snaps next year.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
There goes old fool Kell again,..him and his inferiority complex resurfaces,…but you are right about one thing old man, you are inferior, and have been all your life.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
416-that is exactly why you are what you are.I’d say I want the best QB we could get/have taking all the snaps next year.
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TP6 may be the hier apparent and is already on the team
geno smith and ej manual are the 2 best qb’s in the draft
this makes me a biggot?
October 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Some of these players should be bench with McLain in – JAIL !
October 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady
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Palmer is only 32. If u make him 33 now…then he gets to be 33 until late December 2013.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
mcclaine, tk, seymore and puff
over paid and worthless
October 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
KK, as you perpetuate racial bigotry you also condone it. A hypocrite and a racist! Your white wife left you and it’s been bitter times ever since, yeah?
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Stfu, purple lips, and tell Doofus Boob to get a life and quit stalking me.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
basically took like an 11.5 million signing bonus and its gettin under 1 million dollar contract. Way to much for Palmer. Its time to cut him lose next season. Cut seymour lose.. cut tommy kelly. Seymour and Kelly are stiffs now. I saw Seymour just get stood up on sunday and was like sumo wrestling playing patty cake lol
October 1st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
loose*
October 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
KK Munster, why did Hussein go to Vegas the day after Al Queda attacked our embassy and killed our ambassador and then refused to call it terrorism?
October 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Last in offense, last in defense and last in special teams …by definition you can’t get any worse than this.
These boys are stinkin’ up the joint. First order of business FIRE KNAPP – then we can probably get this offense out of the gutter if its not too late.
Second order of business, REHIRE the Oline coaches.
Third order of business, Take a long look at DA especially if he still wants Knappy.
Forth order of business, Lets keep climbing …SLAP McCheeze ..WAKE THE F’K UP!!! THIS IS NOT RAIDER!!! Get back to being Raider …build a damn bully. Get off the trashing ‘Al’s players BS’. You’ve let go good talent and replaced them with trash!
October 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
By the way Palmer is same age as Eli and younger than Brady (35). Are those guys “washed up”?
Palmer hasn’t been a world beater this yr. but he hasn’t had much to work with either.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Palmer hasn’t been a world beater since 2006?
October 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I bet their are going to be riots at the game if when they come back home …all out mutiny by the fans! They may just run Knapping, DA and McCheeze out of the building.
Mark D will take notice.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Mistic,
What’s with the constant 6-2 reference for Campbell?
We were 3-2 when he got hurt in the first half of game 6.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
By the way Palmer is same age as Eli and younger than Brady (35). Are those guys “washed up”?
Palmer hasn’t been a world beater this yr. but he hasn’t had much to work with either.
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comparing qbs with these elite level multiple sb trophy winners to palmer is retarded.
even if those other guys start to slip they have earned the benefit of the doubt
palmer has only earned the doubt part
October 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Campbell had a winning Raider record, stfu.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
If both of these teams tonight don’t score any more points (Cowboys could get another TD still) we will move up 2 spots in the point scores category, lol.
From 29th to 27th baby!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I bet their are going to be riots at the game if when they come back home …all out mutiny by the fans! They may just run Knapping, DA and McCheeze out of the building.
Mark D will take notice.
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Of course. An “all-out mutiny by the fans.” I’m sure that’s exactly what will happen. No doubt. (eyeroll)
October 1st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Mistic,
What’s with the constant 6-2 reference for Campbell?
We were 3-2 when he got hurt in the first half of game 6.
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meant 4-2, he started the brown game and we would have won if he finished
your hero sucks
October 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Well dammit, Bears scored, 28th at best
October 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
This entire club is now, and has been, for the past 25 years, pure trash, except for the Gruden yrs.
The reason AD fired Gruden is because Gruden gained more attention than AD; that is the same reason AD severed his relationship w/Marcus Allen: Allen was so good he gained more attention than AD too.
It is a known fact.
I say burn them all, especially AD’s freaky spawn Mark.
I want them all to go down in flames.
My new monikor behind AD’s initials is (Burn in Hell) or “BIH”. So whenever I mention AD it will always be as follows:
AD (BIH). Sort of like these idiotic worshipers who alway mention AD, with an “RIP” behind his name.
I respect no one, especially this lying trashy lot of theives and liars who has ripped offf the fan base since 1987.
And I have one thing left to say: AD, burn in hell.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Richard Seymour = Used Car Salesman
October 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
your hero sucks
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Your QB evaluations suck.
Jason Cambpell is a backup, will never start in the NFL again.
Bruce Gradkowski is in the NFL, as you said he would never get an NFL paycheck again.
Jamarcus Russell..lol, epic fail on your part
Cam Newton, top 5 QB? Actually worst QB in his division.
Matt Ryan? Owns you weekly
Troy Smith? Not quite what you hyped him to be huh?
Will be plenty of others moving forward I’m sure.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raider scouts have been at Kansas state College football game. I hear they have been checking out their quarter back
COLIN KLEIN lately. Like i said at some point Reggie is gonna want his own guy in there and if its a rebuilding year he is not gonna want to pay top money to palmer when he can get a guy on a rookie contract. its gonna happen.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Richard Seymour = Used Car Salesman
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Seymour basically won the game in the final minutes last week
Stfu dumbass.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
tk and seymore are a cancer to the defense
seymore is supposed to be a leader and he disappears during games no fire says all the right thing but his game says FU pay me
October 1st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Christian Ponder, Alex Smith, you told us they are garbage, much worse than Jason Campbell.
You were right on RGIII……until you proclaimed him the greatest Redskin EVER, lol.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Richard Seymour is still a top-flight player…for 5-10 snaps a game.
The rest of the time, he’s a slug.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I would take christian ponder on this team forsure. THe guy reminds me of Rich Gannon.
We need a mini like gun slinger with accuracy and some wheels on him to escape the pressure and get those first downs. He doesnt have to be big at all either.
about 6ft 2 220 pounds will do
October 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Proclaimed Cincy “the noodle arm capitol of the world”, while Dalton is working on his second straight Pro Bowl season.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Richard Seymour = Used Car Salesman
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Seymour basically won the game in the final minutes last week
Stfu dumbass.
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How? That was Lee who stripped the ball and Wheeler who recovered.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
After a quarter of a season my may take on this team is Pathetic coaching top to bottom.
The way this team has given up competing on second halves of the Miami and Denver games speaks of bad coaching with no adjustments and little motivating the hapless troops.
None of the free agent acquisitions have panned out, none. This makes the GM looks BAD.
Draft picks? Non factors so far. Again GM looking bad.
The trash acquired from Green Bay has been disappointing as well.
I don’t believe DMC telling us he’s comfortable w this blocking system. What do you expect him to say? He says what he’s been told to say by the bosses. He’s not stupid. The tape speaks for itself. On his 64 yard TD run the Pittsburg defender completely went the wrong direction or else that would have been another 2 yard run too.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Proclaimed Cincy “the noodle arm capitol of the world”, while Dalton is working on his second straight Pro Bowl season.
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Why don’t you go follow Bruce? You’re not a Raider fan anyway.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
your hero sucks
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Your QB evaluations suck.
Jason Cambpell is a backup, will never start in the NFL again.
Bruce Gradkowski is in the NFL, as you said he would never get an NFL paycheck again.
Jamarcus Russell..lol, epic fail on your part
Cam Newton, top 5 QB? Actually worst QB in his division.
Matt Ryan? Owns you weekly
Troy Smith? Not quite what you hyped him to be huh?
Will be plenty of others moving forward I’m sure.
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your a funny guy
so my back up guy is better than your back up guy?
i never said anything bad about matt ryan, he is a quality young qb
when i joined the blog the first thing i did was rip jamarcuss, i was not a fan the sunday morning ( 2am) smoking weed across the street from air lounge
Cam newton was rookie of the year last year and will be good this year as well. he played a flawless game yesterday, but i know you dont really watch him play. you never really have so why start now?
troy smith outplayed alex smith the year he was in sf, i said as much.
good night loser
October 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Well dammit, Bears scored, 28th at best
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Keep the faith. Krapp is a genius and the numbers will eventually reflect that.
If both teams lose a couple hundred yards rushing tonight, we can improve to 30th in that category.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
im telling you a guy you should follow is COLLIN KLEIN quarterback from Kansas State. Raiders scouts have been followin him.
A tough Gritty type quarterback. A football player. A Leader. This is the kind of Guy Reggie is looking for.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
After a quarter of a season my may take on this team is Pathetic coaching top to bottom.
The way this team has given up competing on second halves of the Miami and Denver games speaks of bad coaching with no adjustments and little motivating the hapless troops.
None of the free agent acquisitions have panned out, none. This makes the GM looks BAD.
Draft picks? Non factors so far. Again GM looking bad.
The trash acquired from Green Bay has been disappointing as well.
I don’t believe DMC telling us he’s comfortable w this blocking system. What do you expect him to say? He says what he’s been told to say by the bosses. He’s not stupid. The tape speaks for itself. On his 64 yard TD run the Pittsburg defender completely went the wrong direction or else that would have been another 2 yard run too.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If I were DMAC, and either Reggie or DA told me say the ZBS was an excellent scheme and we would, sooner, if not later get our running game up to speed, I would have either one directly in the face, after which I would have been traded, immediately.
YAY!
October 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
im telling you a guy you should follow is COLLIN KLEIN quarterback from Kansas State. Raiders scouts have been followin him.
A tough Gritty type quarterback. A football player. A Leader. This is the kind of Guy Reggie is looking for.
College coaches say not only can he run it .. but he can throw it and run you over.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Not a “Raider fan”?
Ok, what are you than? Your the azzhat that complains for about 5 years running now, while I remain optimstic yearly.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
465.KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Richard Seymour = Used Car Salesman
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Seymour basically won the game in the final minutes last week
Stfu dumbass.
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Look here “Trevor from Fresh Prince,” I’m too tired to go back and forth with you. A used car can get anyone from point A to B. Seymour was supposed to have us riding in style, yet he’s getting paid millions to have us where? 1-3. I woun’t call you what you called me but guys like you say that stuff because you know a guy like me could never know you enough to reach out and touch you.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
would have punched either **
October 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Flawless game from Cam?
Other than fumbling the game away I guess.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
dbl post
October 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
yep..the new regme sucks ..consideringthe lackless talent reggie brought in here I don’t even want to go thru another offseason with him and give him the oppty to fk up a draft. I would rather have my speed demos than that sht… at leas you know they can do somethin
October 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Brutal game yesterday, got to the stadium early, found a bunch of Raider fans that traveled from LA.
The Donkey fans were nervous at halftime, then the crapstorm took over.
I said that if we could not stop the run, we would get killed. Listening to the Donkey fans yesterday was pure torture.
Why did we give Shaunessy the nickname “Sho-Nasty”? That dude is invisible…..
October 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Not a “Raider fan”?
Ok, what are you than? Your the azzhat that complains for about 5 years running now, while I remain optimstic yearly.
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Because the Raiders losing doesn’t mean schitt to you.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Vegas, You can present fact after fact, and the racist one,M1,the supAmoron WONT GET IT.Im just goin to scroll thru his garbage, done with the ——– You fill in the word, just 12 yr old p-nk,imo
October 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Sho nasty benefited from WIMBLEY last year. w/o a legit pass rusher on 3rd down.. teams can just focus on him
October 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Fire Knapp.
Go back to power running.
Next.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Because the Raiders losing doesn’t mean schitt to you.
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Why should it?
We lose damn near every year, your 10,000 posts about the Raiders sub.500 record since 1989 and the invent of FA taught me that.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Didn’t Seymour keep blabbing on during the offseason about how #77 was the best DE in the league or something?
October 1st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Said he was the best run-stopping DE in the game.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
What’s really surprising is how pad our O-Line play is.
We miss Satele big time. little Wiz is not a center….
October 1st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Blackandsilverside Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
This entire club is now, and has been, for the past 25 years, pure trash, except for the Gruden yrs.
The reason AD fired Gruden is because Gruden gained more attention than AD; that is the same reason AD severed his relationship w/Marcus Allen: Allen was so good he gained more attention than AD too.
It is a known fact.
I say burn them all, especially AD’s freaky spawn Mark.
I want them all to go down in flames.
My new monikor behind AD’s initials is (Burn in Hell) or “BIH”. So whenever I mention AD it will always be as follows:
AD (BIH). Sort of like these idiotic worshipers who alway mention AD, with an “RIP” behind his name.
I respect no one, especially this lying trashy lot of theives and liars who has ripped offf the fan base since 1987.
And I have one thing left to say: AD, burn in hell.
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You’re right, it was pure hell watching Bo Jackson run, not to mention going to the playoffs in 90, 91, 93….Too bad Al spoiled dips!ts like you with an unmatched run from 63-85.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Shaughnessy has been a huge disappointment in my eyes. I was never sold on him until Corkran started raving about him in this chats. Should have known better.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Kirk Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Fire Knapp.
Go back to power running.
Next.
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This coach is too stubborn to make any changes. My question is since he’s such a defensive genius why is this defense look soooooo bad this year? Could it be that GM has given away too much talent and brought little to replace them? What about the genius scheme DA was to bring? In Denver DA had a great Dumerville and Miller plus Baily. Those guys could make any defensive coordinator look good.
And then he comes to the post game conferences and raves how well “Phillip” and “Payton” have played instead of saying how much his own defense stunk.
October 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
494, YES…
October 1st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
CORK You are gonna go over 500 Log ins!
Look if we get Rid off Half of the Roster we get Half of the Mistakes!
Half of Penalties. And the DONKEES Score half of the points
Or 18-6 and doesn’t look so bad.
If we let them play ALABAMA CRIMSOM TIDE they might win it for Us!
COWBOYS ARE TAKING IT “UP THEIR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE, DUDES!
October 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
As some additional the sky is not falling stuff to look at, we are down a little under 6ppg from last year (22.4 to 16.8).
Both the Eagles and Cowboys are down over 8ppg from last season, but are at or above .500 due to improved defenses.
As bad as this offense has been in 3 of the 4 weeks, a little help from the D can get us back to .500 in no time flat.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
we should be running some 3-4 on 3rd and longs 4 down line men on a clear passing downs is a waste of a defender
our dline cant get off a block to save their damn life
we need to disguise our coverages and mix it up play some bump and run man once in a while
cause some confusion manning knew what we were running b4 he even broke the huddle
October 1st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
JFB, you’re a stats guy rooting for the Raids to improve to 28th in scoring.
Any thoughts on the 32nd ranking in rushing yards ?
(we could improve to 30th if both teams lose a few hundred yards rushing tonight)
Krappy’s playcalling and the ZBS related to that ?
Help me out here.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Thank goodnes we have such a talented punter. That means everything in this league.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:07 pm
So how does the “freakish spawn” respond to yesterdays thrashing? Is he relaxing comfortably in his Palm Desert condo without a care in the world?
I don’t know anything about this guy, except that he doesn’t like to fire people. He’s said as much.
I wish I knew what conversations went on behind the scenes and noone has provided any insight.
Is he content with this just being a throwaway season? Is he ticked off…does he care?
October 1st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I am truly enjoying our last decent coach Flores ripping SloClain to pieces during games.
He doesn’t care if he’s fired next year. Ride on coach Flores.
Romo has been ripping him since day one too. Kudos to him too.
I’m tired of all these yes men left in this organization.
Another note, I could not believe Marcus Allen had to talk to that JT the Brick character for his official Raiders interview. Really? You ask a HOF standout to talk to bozo the Brick? Really? Why is he still here ?
October 1st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
505 in tha house
October 1st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
ROMO has decided to throw a little more with just 9 min
Remaining in the game. Don’t know Why? Must have a bad Dream!
October 1st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Any thoughts on the 32nd ranking in rushing yards ?
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Hey, only 28th in yards per carry as well, and we have the fewest rushing attempts in the NFL.
I think we gave up on the run too early sometimes. Not ever 3rd and 6 needs to be a 2 yard pass.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
You go to the Lobo’s game Sat, 505 (I was there)?
Damn near almost pulled that ish off!!!
Maybe the Raiders should hire Bob Davie, lol, although I am not sure we would like this offense they run. I don’t think they attempted a forward pass for about 2 hours on Saturday, between the end of the first half and the third quarter.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
CORK U R OVER 500 LOGS –CONGRAT MY NI$$.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Dang, Romo is a dumpster fire. How long is Dalls going to out up with his bipolar a$$.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
The Raiders looked like :
THE CAT THAT ATE THE CANARY !!
October 1st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
no i didnt go but yeah i heard it was a good game 2nd half was awesome what a turn around in a year
locksleys a bum
October 1st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Seing Michael Bush out there reminds me how this team has the worst back up running backs in the league thanks to Reggie.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I am truly enjoying our last decent coach Flores ripping SloClain to pieces during games.
He doesn’t care if he’s fired next year. Ride on coach Flores.
Romo has been ripping him since day one too. Kudos to him too.
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Slow got blasted on the NFLN’s AFC Playbook 2 weeks ago.
Sterling Sharpe and Baldinger are reviewing Bush’s long TD run in Miami.
Here’s the critique of 55:
SS: “Does he ever get a read right?”
BB: “He’s too slow.”
Ouch and Oooof.
Deadly accurate criticism though.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Rolando McClain ain’t losing these games. Knapp is.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Richard Seymour ain’t losing these game, Knapp is.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Slowlando the “Puppy Hunter”
October 1st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
It’s pretty simple why we lost so bad to Denver. Manning abused two players who should not be starting CBs. Manning had all day to throw because Raiders have anemic pass rush. And, Raider O-line got bullied.
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Ain’t it funny that a couple years ago before we brought in bresnehan the d-line was #1 or #2 in sacks created. Now basically the same guys can’t make a sack if their life depended on it. Weird.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
WOW a new low for Tony Romeo
October 1st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Any thoughts on the 32nd ranking in rushing yards ?
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Hey, only 28th in yards per carry as well, and we have the fewest rushing attempts in the NFL.
I think we gave up on the run too early sometimes. Not ever 3rd and 6 needs to be a 2 yard pass.
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Only 28th ? Proof Krapp is a genius, I tell ya.
Seriously, IYO how responsible is Krappy’s playcalling and the switch to the ZBS for the 32nd dead last ranking in tushing yards ?
October 1st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Richard Seymour ain’t losing these game, Knapp is.
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The high-powered Eagles have actually scored less points than Knapp and are 3-1.
Cowboys as well, and they are 2-2.
Improved D and ST will go a long way for this team.
If this team were to score the same amount of points we averaged last year in each game, we would still be 1-3 so far.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Seriously, IYO how responsible is Krappy’s playcalling and the switch to the ZBS for the 32nd dead last ranking in tushing yards ?
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Half the blame, failure to execute and keep drives going (blocking, drops, bad throws, etc) and keep the opportunity to run the ball takes the other half.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Whatever adjustments that get made in the next two weeks b4 Atlanta will tell us alot in regard to the intelligence and “want to win” of DA…and the org in general.
C’mon guys…how obvious is it that McClain has to go…at least get benched. His play is inexcusable.
He is either:
1-Lazy with very little heart or desire.
2-No where near possesing of the talent anyone thought he had.
As far as our QB is concerned? If Pryor can help us win games than put him in. I couldn’t care less if he’s black, white, red or polkadot.
Ok. If we throw a polkadot QB in i’ll be ticked…i admit it.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Cowboy lets sing with the Raiders
TURN OFF THE LIGHT THE PARTY IS OVER !
HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!
Cowboys are going this year to the SUPERSTO#L
October 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I’d have preferred to see Seymour go prior to the Season, big money for a player doesn’t practice and is ineffectual on the field.
ROMAC I held out hope for.
I’ve seen enough of both to know that they are part of the problem.
Not a part of the solution.
Seymour is a politician and McClain is a slug.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
People talking up Jason Campbell and talking down Palmer are killing me.
Campbell was, is and forever will be a checkdown passer. A game manager and an average one at that.
Carson Palmer can still be a top-10 quarterback in this league and he has been BY FAR our best player in 2012 (for what that’s worth). But he’s been good. Only thrown 2 picks and one of those was only because D Moore fell down on that lousy dirt infield.
So far, Palmer is on pace for a 4,300 yard, 20 TD, 8 INT season. Pretty remarkable when you look at how lousy our line has played and how little separation our receivers have gotten.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Not ever 3rd and 6 needs to be a 2 yard pass.
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That’s true.
Krapp can throw for 2 yards on 3rd and 6 OR run for a loss of two.
Anything other than converting a first down is an option.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Richard Seymour ain’t losing these game, Knapp is.
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The high-powered Eagles have actually scored less points than Knapp and are 3-1.
Cowboys as well, and they are 2-2.
Improved D and ST will go a long way for this team.
If this team were to score the same amount of points we averaged last year in each game, we would still be 1-3 so far.
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Another dumbass excuse comparisons.
You would never admit Knapp is the problem. It’s not in your character.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Knapp doesn’t throw anything-except maybe his clipboard when he watches them try and execute.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
You would never admit Knapp is the problem. It’s not in your character.
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I just said he was half the problem.
I support Knapp as he is our Raider OC, once he is not, I will bash the man to no end.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
If this team were to score the same amount of points we averaged last year in each game, we would still be 1-3 so far.
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You can’t be fkin serious can you? If the offense could keep a drive goin or atleast split the TOP the other team obviously wouldn’t score as much, no? So theres no way you or I have a clue what our record would be.
Obviously the defense is bad and most of us expected the D to be the weaklink, what we didn’t expect is the offense to be just as bad. All the blame has to go to Knapp, heck I will even blame him for the defense being worse than last year also
October 1st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
cp3 stats are in garbage time game out of reach
October 1st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Well the Cowboys pooping the bed helps the Raiders in almost every statistical category.
Another team scoring less points than us, Palmer will move up in the QB rating area, Cowboys YPC is now below us.
Tonight was the 2nd best night for Knapp’s offense all season!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
You would never admit Knapp is the problem. It’s not in your character.
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Yep, fire Knapp and The defense will become a “Top 5″ just like Huff say’s.
After all, as Huff say’s, there’s plays to be made, they (the D) just aren’t making them.
Fuuuuck.
What a circus of BS.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
You can’t be fkin serious can you?
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It’s called math and yes I am serious.
You think an extra 5.6 points a game, the difference from 2011 to 2012 in points scored per game, would have made a difference on Sunday? Opening night? In Miami?
I don’t. The D has been worse than the offense, is ranked worse statistically, is breaking Raider all-time records, and so on and so on.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Remember when Raiders fans wanted Garrett as a HC
October 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Yep Knapp is the problem for all of our problems, one bad egg spoiled the whole bunch
October 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
If the Raider could just pickup 35% of their 3rd downs, it sure would help that D. Afterall it was only 10 – 6 at half.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
DON’T BLAME REGGIE! He’s Gut -in one at a time .
Monday his turning the lights off in the Film Room and Locking the
Whole Team.He is Using an AX !!
October 1st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
trading FGs for TDs aint gunna cut it
October 1st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
I don’t. The D has been worse than the offense, is ranked worse statistically, is breaking Raider all-time records, and so on and so on.
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I Really thought that to be impossible.
Should never underestimate the ability of the Raiders to one up themselves when it comes to futility.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
man there are some stupid people out there…
October 1st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
If the damn offense could get a 1st down in the 3rd quarter or sustain a damn drive that would help out our pos defense a lil, Palmer even said as much
October 1st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Afterall it was only 10 – 6 at half.
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They gave away 10 points that half, with a fumble when nobody touched a WR after a 65 yard gain, and the bothced FG fake.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
“man there are some stupid people out there…”
I can agree to this
October 1st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
534,
True. The biggest bullcrapper is Seymour. I’ll never take anything he says seriously ever again.
I appreciate that he tries to put a positive spin on things, but everything he says is just total b.s.
I used to be encouraged by the stuff he says, but now I know it’s all B.S…100 %.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Convert 1 3rd down, and you’re blaming the defense? Of course they’re gonna get worn out.
It was only 10 – 6 at half.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
If the Raider could just pickup 35% of their 3rd downs, it sure would help that D. Afterall it was only 10 – 6 at half.
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It’s a collective cluster fuuuk of ineptitude.
All 3 phases are accountable.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I am truly enjoying our last decent coach Flores ripping SloClain to pieces during games.
He doesn’t care if he’s fired next year. Ride on coach Flores.
Romo has been ripping him since day one too. Kudos to him too.
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Slow got blasted on the NFLN’s AFC Playbook 2 weeks ago.
Sterling Sharpe and Baldinger are reviewing Bush’s long TD run in Miami.
Here’s the critique of 55:
SS: “Does he ever get a read right?”
BB: “He’s too slow.”
Ouch and Oooof.
Deadly accurate criticism though.
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I feel bad, because Sterling Sharpe actually picked the Raiders to win and Darren McFadden to have a big game. Baldy and D.McNabb picked the Broncos.
McClain appears done. – he needs to play in the box and closer to the line – maybe 3-4 defense with a big NT in front to occupy blockers
October 1st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
If the damn offense could get a 1st down in the 3rd quarter or sustain a damn drive that would help out our pos defense a lil, Palmer even said as much
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Well sure, but it works both ways.
If our defense could actually get an INT (still a goose egg on the year) that would help our offense wouldn’t it?
Maybe actually force the team to punt once a game couldn’t hurt, instead of starting every drive at the 20 with the crowd rocking.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I am truly enjoying our last decent coach Flores ripping SloClain to pieces during games.
He doesn’t care if he’s fired next year. Ride on coach Flores.
Romo has been ripping him since day one too. Kudos to him too.
I’m tired of all these yes men left in this organization.
Another note, I could not believe Marcus Allen had to talk to that JT the Brick character for his official Raiders interview. Really? You ask a HOF standout to talk to bozo the Brick? Really? Why is he still here ?
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Brick has had the Raiders back since 98. Yeah , Papa couldve interviewed him, but Brick isnt THAT bad – met him and Atkinson at the Englander back in 99. Gives a lot of energy and hype to the Nation. – and sure as hell beats Kawakami and Purdy, thats for sure.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
REGGIE told ALLEN to paint his Face Green and his tongue Red.
Close the Film Room with the players inside and Say:
NOT SO FAST – NOT SO FAST -I LL GET YOU MY LITTLE ONE-
I LL GET YOU!
October 1st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
McClain appears done. – he needs to play in the box and closer to the line – maybe 3-4 defense with a big NT in front to occupy blockers
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Ya, that way when a Guard engages Him and He can’t get off the block, He can fall down and hope the RB trips over Him.
I’m done with McClain. Dude has NO desire.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
most of all reggie signing mondek, more texaints trash….
October 1st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Yeah, both suck about the same right now.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
People talking up Jason Campbell and talking down Palmer are killing me.
Campbell was, is and forever will be a checkdown passer. A game manager and an average one at that.
Carson Palmer can still be a top-10 quarterback in this league and he has been BY FAR our best player in 2012 (for what that’s worth). But he’s been good. Only thrown 2 picks and one of those was only because D Moore fell down on that lousy dirt infield.
So far, Palmer is on pace for a 4,300 yard, 20 TD, 8 INT season. Pretty remarkable when you look at how lousy our line has played and how little separation our receivers have gotten.
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Yes, indeed. Not sure about top 10, but CP has been a pleasant surprise AFAIC. TIM has not surfaced and that was my main concern coming into the season. Ball security has been good.
I’m not a big Palmer fan, but I must admit he’s played rather well.
Much better than I expected.
He’s made some great throws. His passing WON the Pitt game.
Jason Cantball could never dream of making those throws.
BTW Chris, although I do not completely agree with your take on the HJAX firing, you consistently voice opinions and make observations that I’m in complete agreement with.
I think you’re one of the best and most astute posters on this blog.
And yes, Grads > Campbell.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
The thing that pisses me off, and probably pisses off most of us is the fact that we all knew Knapp was the very definition of a retread…a man who was relieved of his duties by the freakin Cable guy of all people..a guy who has come in and caused the Offense to regress every single place he has been. We were prepared as much as we could have been to see an offense regress, painful as it has been..
However…
To see this defense, which was horrid last year, look even WORSE this year even after the Hiring of a “Defensive Minded” Head coach has been downright shocking to say the least. We ALL thought it would be much better than last year, and if not MUCH better, at least Better than Bresh’s horsecrap calls. To witness Knapp’s ineptitude is one thing, but nobody expected our defense to suck this bad. Does anyone else think this feels like 2006 all over again? Ugh.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
omoran Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
REGGIE told ALLEN to paint his Face Green and his tongue Red.
Close the Film Room with the players inside and Say:
NOT SO FAST – NOT SO FAST -I LL GET YOU MY LITTLE ONE-
I LL GET YOU!
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What???
LMAO.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Well if you ask me its Palmer’s fault that we have a first year GM HC OC that just gutted a franchise that was a perennial loser for the last 10 years.
Now we have a 32nd ranked defense with the worst special teams we have ever seen and an offensive line that cannot pass block or open holes for our RB.
And then there are the demented fans who are saying that the resolution is to put in the 3rd string rookie at QB…..makes for a long season
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Denver was looking at 1-3 in the first year of the Manning era. They were fired up. That’s all it was. They would have beat anyone in the league yesterday. Have a feeling Atlanta’s overrated and peaking too soon. Cheer up, gentlemen.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
The fking pattern is obvious:
Can’t convert 3rd downs
Ineffective in the Red Zone
Can’t run the ball
Since the fking preseason!!!!!
Knapp is the target of disgust by 90% of the Raider Nation
Get a fkn clue.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Only two other teams have not got an INT this season, and only one team has got less sacks than us. 4 teams have scored less points than us.
We are 28th in yards allowed defensively, 22nd in yards gained offensively.
I realize it is the lesser of two evils here, but you can’t rail on the offense and give the D a pass, they have been just as bad, and debatably worse.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
People talking up Jason Campbell and talking down Palmer are killing me.
Campbell was, is and forever will be a checkdown passer. A game manager and an average one at that.
Carson Palmer can still be a top-10 quarterback in this league and he has been BY FAR our best player in 2012 (for what that’s worth). But he’s been good. Only thrown 2 picks and one of those was only because D Moore fell down on that lousy dirt infield.
So far, Palmer is on pace for a 4,300 yard, 20 TD, 8 INT season. Pretty remarkable when you look at how lousy our line has played and how little separation our receivers have gotten.
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Yes, indeed. Not sure about top 10, but CP has been a pleasant surprise AFAIC. TIM has not surfaced and that was my main concern coming into the season. Ball security has been good.
I’m not a big Palmer fan, but I must admit he’s played rather well.
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This isn’t on Palmer, its on the ZBS and the defense caving in the 3rd qtr and on 3rd downs…
October 1st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I’m not going to call it till I see how Atlanta does next week, but I have a feeling we’re going to beat them. This team came back and beat the Steelers. I’m thinking we have another one of those Raider teams that plays to our opponent’s level. We lose to bad teams, step it up against good teams.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Get a fkn clue.
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Through 4 games, this defense is the worst DEFENSE IN RAIDER ORGANIZTIONAL HISTORY. Did you not read that?
This offense through 4 games is barely worse than it was through 4 games in 2010. Isn’t even close to setting franchise records for ineptness.
This defense might go down as the worst Raider defense EVER. The offense will not.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Houston & Kelly can’t get pressure even when Seymour’s getting doubled teamed,
Huff is playing out of position. The other 2 CBs came off other teams practice squads or the street,
The LBs are weak too.
The greatest Defensive coach in the world couldn’t do much with this unit.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Burris needs to move to the middle and move Goethel over to Burris’s spot.
Sit McClain. He not only doesn’t help…he is a liability by his mere presence on the field..keep him OFF the field.
Bring Carter in to rush the passer. Bring SO’OTO in to do the same.
Shaughnessy sucks. Seymour sucks. Kelly sucks. They ALL suck…period.
Our defense is a pathetic joke.
Glad our HC is such a “defensive minded” guy.
Yes..DA SUCKS TOO.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I realize it is the lesser of two evils here, but you can’t rail on the offense and give the D a pass, they have been just as bad, and debatably worse.
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EXACTLY.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Thanks Raiderman99.
And yes. I was extremely disappointed by the Hue Jax firing. Have been really bitter about that one since it happened and obviously that feeling has only grown these last four weeks.
But even I didn’t expect it to be this bad. I thought worst-case scenario we’d be a respectable, competitive 8-8 or so rather than building the momentum I thought we gained under Hue and I honestly expected double-digit wins expecting a full off-season with Palmer and a healthy McFadden.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Denver was looking at 1-3 in the first year of the Manning era. They were fired up. That’s all it was. They would have beat anyone in the league yesterday. Have a feeling Atlanta’s overrated and peaking too soon. Cheer up, gentlemen.
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So when do we get “fired up” and beat anyone in the league? THAT’s the question.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Burris needs to move to the middle and move Goethel over to Burris’s spot.
Sit McClain. He not only doesn’t help…he is a liability by his mere presence on the field..keep him OFF the field.
Bring Carter in to rush the passer. Bring SO’OTO in to do the same.
Shaughnessy sucks. Seymour sucks. Kelly sucks. They ALL suck…period.
Our defense is a pathetic joke.
Glad our HC is such a “defensive minded” guy.
Yes..DA SUCKS TOO.
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OK, so now what?
Say the same thing every week until they win?
October 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
You guys are discussing an engine overhaul on a car that just needs a tune up.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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We need a demon exorcist. Or do we want Cleveland to wind a game or 2? WTF
October 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Thanks Raiderman99.
And yes. I was extremely disappointed by the Hue Jax firing. Have been really bitter about that one since it happened and obviously that feeling has only grown these last four weeks.
But even I didn’t expect it to be this bad. I thought worst-case scenario we’d be a respectable, competitive 8-8 or so rather than building the momentum I thought we gained under Hue and I honestly expected double-digit wins expecting a full off-season with Palmer and a healthy McFadden.
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Say this to my face; Would this team have had the same record – had Hue Jack City
brought in Thurman or Moss or Perry as D.Coordinator?
October 1st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
You guys are discussing an engine overhaul on a car that just needs a tune up.
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They’ve already overhauled the engine with knapp formula 1. All we needed was a tune-up.
October 1st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
You guys are discussing an engine overhaul on a car that just needs a tune up.
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is the tune up – changing tranny fluid – scrapping ZBS and adding power based o-line play and hurry up tempo changes?
or is it full diagnostic – switching out Knapp and adding Saunders as full-time OC?
October 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Nobody is giving the D a pass.
The fking pattern is obvious:
Can’t convert 3rd downs
Ineffective in the Red Zone
Can’t run the ball
Since the fking preseason!!!!!
Knapp is the target of disgust by 90% of the Raider Nation
October 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I’m not going to call it till I see how Atlanta does next week, but I have a feeling we’re going to beat them. This team came back and beat the Steelers. I’m thinking we have another one of those Raider teams that plays to our opponent’s level. We lose to bad teams, step it up against good teams.
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Sorry, but I don’t see it happening. Atlanta looks like one of the top two teams in the league and tends to be very tough at home.
Our only hope is if they win again this week and come into our game supremely overconfident and literally hung over, Matuszak style. Oh, and if our coaches get their collective heads out of their azzes.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Sam, I’d say we got fired up and beat one of the best teams in the league, the Pittsburgh Steelers, a couple of weeks ago.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
That’s why I said I want to see how Atlanta plays next week before I can call it, Chris.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
steelers suck and they rolled over for us rothisbugger showed mercy on huffy in the 2nd half dont kid your self
October 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Reggie and Allen have sterilized the Raiders, and knapp has verified it.
The Raiders as I know them were on life support after Al Davis passed away and they have now gone into a coma.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Can’t run the ball
Can’t convert 3rd downs
Can’t score
Of course the D is getting worn out. It was only 10 6 at half
October 1st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I don’t like Knapp either, but there is no way in hell Allens’ firing him before the season’s over. My biggest problem with Knapp is that he just won’t run a WCO. He’s hooked on these 10 yard rollout plays and screens, which hardly ever work, and we wind up at 3rd and long. If he’s going to run a WCO, just run one and use those short pass plays to get us in 2nd and short, 3rd and short.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Thanks Raiderman99.
And yes. I was extremely disappointed by the Hue Jax firing. Have been really bitter about that one since it happened and obviously that feeling has only grown these last four weeks.
But even I didn’t expect it to be this bad. I thought worst-case scenario we’d be a respectable, competitive 8-8 or so rather than building the momentum I thought we gained under Hue and I honestly expected double-digit wins expecting a full off-season with Palmer and a healthy McFadden.
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Say this to my face; Would this team have had the same record – had Hue Jack City
brought in Thurman or Moss or Perry as D.Coordinator?
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Don’t know. Denver on Sunday was going to be tough with them at home, the talent on that team, and Manning staring down the barrel of a 1-3 start. But I could’ve seen us winning the San Diego and/or Miami games.
You can’t completely separate offense and defense performance. If Hue was here we’d be running the ball much more effectively, putting more points on the board, improving the field position battle and wearing out opposing D’s while breaking the opposing O’s rhythm. And really nobody could do worse than the current state of our D, so there would be a lot of room for improvement from those guys.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Atlanta seems like we’re gonna be fed to the lions. Remember how they toyed with denver last week? Unless Palmer, Dmac and Saunders take over, we are royally screwed up the butthole.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
The whole point of using a WCO is to avoid 3rd and long. 3rd and long is the death nail to the WCO. And we’re in that situation too often.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Can’t run the ball
Can’t convert 3rd downs
Can’t score
Of course the D is getting worn out. It was only 10 6 at half
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We need a legit OC, not some wanna-be.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Why is it that no one ever addresses the simplest explanation for our ineptness as a team?
We don’t have enough really talented players on the field. Period.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
“Atlanta seems like we’re gonna be fed to the lions. Remember how they toyed with denver last week? Unless Palmer, Dmac and Saunders take over, we are royally screwed up the butthole.”
I agree here there needs to be a change in play calling!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Nah. We already showed we can step up against good teams.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Allen is pouring what CORK? Tar and Feathers if We don’t Win vs Atlanta Falcons. !
Is Midnight in Florida 12am Affraid to put ESPN Highlites and see the NIGHTMARE in OAKCLOWN FAILURES!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
whatup fellas?
Man, that was a long Sunday!
I watched the game again today, made for a long Monday. Think I’ll skip Tuesday!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
#585 right on!!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
: Romanowski was asked on CSN-Bay Area today if Rolando McClain was a boar hunter.. Romo: No. He’s a puppy hunter. Little white poodles.
Lol! So true. You could now call him a bust after three solid years of sucking.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
“We don’t have enough really talented players on the field.”
Yeah I said that earlier and I went as far as to say that overpaying guys like Nnamdi and Seymour are part of the cause of this.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Shutdown, you said it. Our receiving corp overall is mediocre at best. Our offensive line is suspect. There are question marks all over the field personnel wise. It’s going to take Reggie a couple of years, no doubt about it.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
OK, so now what?
Say the same thing every week until they win?
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I offered a few suggestions but i’m not naive enough to think any of the Raiders staff will listen…but seriously, I hope when DA looks at these games and truly analyzes what he sees, that he will make some changes that need to be made.
We don’t have alot of talent and that includes the guys Reggie brought in, but maybe DA will at least make some of the obvious moves that need to be made…one being benching that worthless pos McClain.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Only the die hard Davis loyalists think this is a talented roster. Nobody else in the world does.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
– The Raiders lost the first game coming off a bye each of the past nine seasons. They lost those games by an average of 14 points
Up next: a game against the undefeated Atlanta Falcons, the sexy pick as the team most likely to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
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Yeah, we really got a chance in Atlanta.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
That backward pass in your own endzone.
YUCK
October 1st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I realize it is the lesser of two evils here, but you can’t rail on the offense and give the D a pass, they have been just as bad, and debatably worse.
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No one is giving the D a pass.
But here’s the thing, the Defense already sucked last year. It lost it’s best pass rusher. The starting CB’s are both out.
So what do you expect ?
Tarver would have to perform a miracle to get production out of the crap hand he’s been dealt.
On the other hand, the Offense has basically the same cast and ADDED a healthy DMAC.
There’s absolutely no reason or legit excuse for the total failure on THAT side of the ball.
The offensive failure falls almost ENTIRELY on Greg Krapp’s switch to the ZBS and his schitty play calling.
I don’t see how anyone can even debate this after the pre-season and the 4 games we’ve witnnessed so far.
It’s blatantly obvious to anyone with an ounce of football knowledge.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
“We don’t have enough really talented players on the field.”
Yeah I said that earlier and I went as far as to say that overpaying guys like Nnamdi and Seymour are part of the cause of this.
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
: Romanowski was asked on CSN-Bay Area today if Rolando McClain was a boar hunter.. Romo: No. He’s a puppy hunter. Little white poodles.
Lol! So true. You could now call him a bust after three solid years of sucking.
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Fellas, I tell you this much ; If i’m Dennis Allen and I flop in the first year, the first two names (who are on the coaching hotseat) I’m looking at in 2013 – are Rex Ryan and Ron Rivera. – I would go after the most experienced D-coordinator that I could, just as Fox did with Del Rio (since Allen is so enamored with John Fox)
you give either of those two some legit players in this upcoming draft like Manti Teo or Barkevious Mingo and CB David Amerson or Dee Millner, you got yourself a DEFENSE – especially Rex Ryan – I would watch both of those cats very closely
October 1st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Angelo bring me Muhamaad over!
CORK bring me AL SAUNDER over!
Bye Nation sleep tight, Don:t let the Donkees Sh#t on your helmets!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
We have players. We have good talented players.
We need coaching. Good solid coaching wins games. Good coaches coach players up. We have playmakers. Our schiitty coaches make our players look like scrubs. Some of our coaches are scrubs.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
DA’s biggest crime thus far is allowing a potential game breaking player like McFadden to suffer under a scheme that doesn’t allow the team to get the best out of him.
It’s a shame. To waste a weapon like DMAC, who doesn’t come around everyday and to have him wallow in the misery that IS this offense, and not even give your BEST PLAYER a fair chance to succeed.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Only the die hard Davis loyalists think this is a talented roster. Nobody else in the world does.
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And who would you suggest in the draft and/or FA Sullivan44?
October 1st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
hope they implement some 3-4 looks houston and nessy can set the edge seymore can earn his check by occuping two blockers
October 1st, 2012 at 9:16 pm
TailGaterRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Yeah, we really got a chance in Atlanta.
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Maybe we do and maybe we don’t. The key is to play 60 minutes of tough, smart, hard-nosed football with no busted assignments or loafing (see Kelly, Seymour, McClain, Brisiel). If we do that, we have a chance. If we do that, we can at least be proud of our team’s effort.
As for McClain: I ain’t buying the “ankle” excuse. If his ankle is hurt, it would be listed on the official NFL injury report. If it’s not, then no excuses. Play hard or go back to Alabama and pretend to shoot people or whatever.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
DA’s biggest crime thus far is allowing a potential game breaking player like McFadden to suffer under a scheme that doesn’t allow the team to get the best out of him.
It’s a shame. To waste a weapon like DMAC, who doesn’t come around everyday and to have him wallow in the misery that IS this offense, and not even give your BEST PLAYER a fair chance to succeed.
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DMC is in a contract year next year – if Knapp stays in 2013 – i think he may opt out and be on the trading block. SERIOUSLY.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
505raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
hope they implement some 3-4 looks houston and nessy can set the edge seymore can earn his check by occuping two blockers
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he’ll be done for sure…his back wont hold in 3-4 for duration of season – thats a hard position – Maybe Desmond Bryant could play it, and/or Bilukidi on the nose
October 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Specifically, Allen and his staff need to find out why the Raiders are getting outplayed in the second half, why the defense is allowing more than 31 points per game, why the run game is last in the league and how the Raiders can jump-start things for the final 12 games.
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Not that hard to figure out. It starts with the play calling. The longer you can keep your O on the field, the less time the opposition has to move the ball. And your D stays rested. Simple as that. NO FCKN SCHIIT!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:16 pm
TailGaterRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Yeah, we really got a chance in Atlanta.
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Maybe we do and maybe we don’t. The key is to play 60 minutes of tough, smart, hard-nosed football with no busted assignments or loafing (see Kelly, Seymour, McClain, Brisiel). If we do that, we have a chance. If we do that, we can at least be proud of our team’s effort.
As for McClain: I ain’t buying the “ankle” excuse. If his ankle is hurt, it would be listed on the official NFL injury report. If it’s not, then no excuses. Play hard or go back to Alabama and pretend to shoot people or whatever.
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One need only look at those Rainbows that Matt Ryan were tossing to Roddy White.
Julio Jones was on the NFL Network saying …”pick your poison, either way your going to get sick”
October 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
yeah hes done already no point in saving him
October 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
“We’ve got a lot of work to do,” Allen said Monday, one day after the Raiders lost to the Denver Broncos 37-6. “We’ve got a lot of areas that we’ve got to improve on……………..
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That’s rich.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
@Jerrymcd: The big Raiders moves you’ve been waiting for: Ihenacho, Gurley released from practice squad. Owusu-Ansah brought back, Nick Mondek signed.
Now even the team’s very own beat writer is ridiculing the organization and their meaningless signings of other teams’ trash pile. Ladies and gents we are now a joke in NFL.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:21 pm
We just need to get the ball into Shane Lechler’s hands more. He’s the best there ever was and he will lead this team to the mountaintop.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Sam, I’d say we got fired up and beat one of the best teams in the league, the Pittsburgh Steelers, a couple of weeks ago.
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Could we get “fired up” v. Falcons ON THE ROAD as the Niners did….or is that hoping too much? Oh jeez, Julio Jones AND Roddy White AND Tony Gonzalez v. Pat Lee, Joselio Hanson, etc.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Allen said he and his coaching staff will spend an inordinate amount of time breaking down videotape from the first four games in an attempt to find answers as to why the Raiders started this season 1-3.
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Take a close look at some of the coaches on the sidelines, i.e., an OC who takes to long to get the play in. And why the no ‘no-huddle’ vs denver? What’s up with that?
October 1st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
We need some play makers on D
October 1st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
@Jerrymcd: The big Raiders moves you’ve been waiting for: Ihenacho, Gurley released from practice squad. Owusu-Ansah brought back, Nick Mondek signed.
Now even the team’s very own beat writer is ridiculing the organization and their meaningless signings of other teams’ trash pile. Ladies and gents we are now a joke in NFL.
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Anybody think were missing Brandon Carr or not trading for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie or RAvens Cary Williams?
I think Tracy Porter might’ve looked good in Silver and Black right about now.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
610,
I agree.
We can blame Knapp all we want too, but DA is the HC…and with that comes the responsibility and culpability for how the entire team performs.
Noone will think less of him if he decides to “adjust” the offense to one that allows his players to succeed.
Noone is gonna say after a 2-14 season that “you gotta hand it to DA..he stuck with that same offense the whole season even though it didn’t work at all.”
Didn’t we just get done with a stubborn leader who refused to change for the betterment of the team?
October 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm
@VicTafur: On McFadden’s bad start with zone-blocking scheme, Allen said, “When you look back at this year, you’ll say Darren had success this year.” Lol. What’s he smoking? It must be good schitt.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Coach ‘em up
October 1st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Think of this. Denver did not punt THE ENTIRE GAME…What harm could possibly be done if we switched to a 3-4 defense? I mean really. Why not? What could it possibly hurt?
Could it get worse? Isn’t it at least worth a shot?
This defense couldn’t stop my local high school team right now.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Wow, Oakland 4 3-and-outs in the 3rd quarter, Denver 24 pts in the 3rd quarter.
What I really question is why Taiwan Jones has 0 carries thru 4 games this year. If McFadden can’t cut into open holes then let the kid that actually has the swivel give it a shot.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I guess the Mr. Davis hate will never stop, especially from wannabees.
Just like you’ll never convince me that Palmer was an instant upgrade, or that he is or ever will be an elite qb, or be a consistent winner on the field, just as well you’ll never see the truth on Palmer until he’s gone from the team.
There is no hate on Palmer here, I’ve known him and seen him play since his high school days here in Santa Margarita. He was over-hyped then, as he is now. A player with all the physical tools, but with something missing that has been good for his “just enough” mediocre status, but has never great. I see folks here trying to compare him against Jason Campbell, which is a joke, not because JC is bad, but we’re talking two very different types. Palmer, Heisman, top choice in the draft, at one time one of the highest paid qbs, 80M, which 43 come from the Raiders, plus the draft choices. JC was a late first, and it came to the Raiders for a 4th. JC will forever be a good back, better than most backups, though.
Palmer’s teams in his last 3 seasons, already with the money in the bank, have a 9-21 record, sure you won’t make Palmer accountable, blame everyone else, that’s his good fortune, no doubt. Ironically and no coincidence, Cincy is 12-8 since Palmer “retired.”
As a said after the Pitt game, every dog has its day, Palmer had his, but his inconsistency is also one of his trademark. I’m sure he’s trying hard, and he keeps on piling stats, and his team is also losing. Sad to see Allen leaving him in the donkey game, but Palmer padded his yardage, which I’m sure will look outstanding at the end of the year, but with the rest of the team reeling.
There’s no doubt that Romo and LoNeal are correct when they said in the Raiders post-game that the Raiders don’t have the talent to compete in the NFL, which is really questionable; is the talent here but not producing? or is the coaching and direction of the team so bad that is wasting talent? Probably correct on both sides, but how can this year’s talent be so bad? Of course, it must be Al Davis to blame, please let the MAN rest in peace.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm
@VicTafur: On McFadden’s bad start with zone-blocking scheme, Allen said, “When you look back at this year, you’ll say Darren had success this year.” Lol. What’s he smoking? It must be good schitt.
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Ha. That’s rich.
Maybe the problem is that DA doesn’t even know what success is.
Seriously, is this guy nuts?
October 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
He isn’t ridiculing the organization.He is ridiculing this blog.All the reaction over PS players is ridiculous.They come and go weekly-everywhere.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
There is no hate on Palmer is here???
Guess you’re new bud!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
The reason AD fired Gruden is because Gruden gained more attention than AD; that is the same reason AD severed his relationship w/Marcus Allen: Allen was so good he gained more attention than AD too.
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This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read. If that is the case then why didn’t he get rid of Bo jackson who was more famous than Marcus ever was. Or Howie Long, How bout Jim Plunkett. Tim Brown garnered some attention as well. There were a ton of players who outshown Mr Davis long before Marcus e=or Gruden ever got here yet for some reason they never got the treatment those two did. Answer that moron!!
October 1st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I think we can all safely say now that the new regime and all their coaches are legitimally, certifiably, make no mistake about it, upside down.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
By the time Gruden was here Al Davis had become damn near a hermit I could outshine him.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
houston and nessy make it possible to go 3-4 if curry comes back and carter can be a dware type of rusher we could shop a dt and another lb
got too many big slow d lineman they just get in the way and crowd the line and the lbs cant make a play
October 1st, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Hi Everyone
So sad today my Raiders lost. All day at work I endured “yo, hey, dumb ass, how much money did you lose”, and “stupid muthafu****, dip stick and stool squatter”. I was even toilette papered while I was taking a nap at work.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
634,
I’d like to see the 3/4 just for the sake of seeing it at this point.
This pathetic D cannot stop anybody at anytime. How much worse could the 3-4 be for the team.
Maybe..just maybe they could force the opposing team to punt once in a while.
Instead of just complaining i’m trying to come up with some solutions here…ha.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Dj that’s actually a great question I thought we would see a lot of the 3/4 we were supposed to be multiple right? we haven’t been at all. We’ve been stagnant more zone and loose zone. I thought we’d see blitzes almost every down we blitz even less now.
Wussup fellas???
October 1st, 2012 at 9:50 pm
yeah cant do any worse and u never know it could fit the personel i think it does rather see 3 guys get stood up than 4
October 1st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Oakglen is that you dawg? been a minute…
October 1st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Saying that that the zbs will work here cuz “he’s seen it work before”?
He could just as easily say “We’re gonna have Carson run the ball out of the option on every play. I’ve seen QB’s do it before so I know it works.”
October 1st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
it is what it is these guys arent going to learn how to shed blocks in two weeks
taking away a lineman and adding a lb will speed them up
October 1st, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Marcus Allen got mad at Mr D because of teh MONEY he paid Bo Jackson and Bo was a part-time player Marcus felt shunned and he was right. But he couldn’t go public with ity because Bo was soo damn good he would’ve looked bad so he pulled a bunch of crap that pissed Mr D off knowing he had Jim Murray the greta sportswriter in his backpocket to sell his side of the story………….period
October 1st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
U cant blitz because our secondary and MLB is bad already.. u gonna have huge holes in the defense.
WE were blitzing yesterday but there would just be a wide open man running open in the middle of field. Were always a step to late when we blitz.
qb gets it out to fast.
October 1st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
505raiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
it is what it is these guys arent going to learn how to shed blocks in two weeks
taking away a lineman and adding a lb will speed them up
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Good point.
What they are doing isn’t working. They talked about multiple…try it out.
If they keep doing the same things..with the same players, they’re gonna get the same results.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Carter should help hopefully.. Hopefully curry can come back in two more weeks.
U still have that young guy Vic Soto who is has pass rushing ability is more OLB.. maybe in a few weeks our starting corners can come back.
There is still somethings that can be done. 3-4 wouldnt be bad. OUR DLINE is to slow. its like a bunch of DT’s out there
October 1st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
U cant blitz because our secondary and MLB is bad already.. u gonna have huge holes in the defense.
WE were blitzing yesterday but there would just be a wide open man running open in the middle of field. Were always a step to late when we blitz.
qb gets it out to fast.
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What can they do then? They aren’t stopping anything right now. We are talking historically bad right now.
We gotta do something…
October 1st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
the sh!t their doing is horrible sending extra guys and having the dbs 8 yards off the LOS is stupid
October 1st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen: “We’ve got lot of work to do. Have to evaluate what we’re doing.” Asked if use of zone blocking was one of those things, he said yes
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It fkin better be
October 1st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
647,
Why aren’t the coaches noticing playing 8 yds. off and screaming their lungs out at the players to NOT DO THAT?
What am I missing? Is it not their job to do that?
October 1st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders allow scores on 52.2% of drives compared to 35.6% last season
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This is what a real defense is?
October 1st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen: “We’ve got lot of work to do. Have to evaluate what we’re doing.” Asked if use of zone blocking was one of those things, he said yes
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It fkin better be
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Wow. I didn’t hear that before.
That is actually some good news.
Thx.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
In 16 games since Al Davis’ death #Raiders allowed 445 points and 6,208 yards _ more than they ever did in a season when he was alive
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Bring back Al D defense
October 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen: “We’ve got lot of work to do. Have to evaluate what we’re doing.” Asked if use of zone blocking was one of those things, he said yes
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That is actually significant. He was staunch that the zbs was what we were doing come hell or high water basically. The fact he is saying he is willing to look at it is…something.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Well, more infield dirt.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
soft zone thats the scheme get picked apart dont give up the big play
thats my guess has not worked out so far
October 1st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
The only thing they can do is get better players period. That ignorant fool got rid of all the talent we had to go get a bunch of GB bottom feeders. Thinking his coaches could get something out of them and tehy can’t. He put himself in a bad spot only he himself can get himself out of.`That’s what happen when you think you know more than you do.
The coaches have to devise schemes now that can get help them get to the QB and cause confusion but they need help on the backend of this defense. Go get CJ and make a trade for a starting corner they could help bigtime. They will have to pay him the same money they didn’t want to pay Routt. Stupid!
October 1st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
A’s BABY!! Thats not the Raider field.. they dont deserve to be playing on that field.
I hear fans saying when are the A’s gonna be done.. shyyyyt A’s should be saying when is this pathetic f’n football team gonna quit tearing up our field? haha
October 1st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Any news yet on the “Fire Greg Knapp” watch?
Code Fire Greg Knapp
October 1st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
The A’s are in-2 more and the division is ours.GO A’s
October 1st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
2 more baby.. cmon A’s .. the momentumn has shifted.. F the Rangers
October 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen: “We’ve got lot of work to do. Have to evaluate what we’re doing.” Asked if use of zone blocking was one of those things, he said yes
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That is actually significant. He was staunch that the zbs was what we were doing come hell or high water basically. The fact he is saying he is willing to look at it is…something.
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Yeah I was surprised when I saw that tweet, maybe there is hope for DA yet.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Don’t like the idea of handing out the bubbly.We need the next 2.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Did Palmer even do a postgame?
October 1st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
F88k you Lew,get the hell out of there.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
I’m not anywhere near Oakland, but i’m rooting for your A’s.
White Sox choked badly…They had the division in their hands and lost 10 of 12 down the stretch.
What sucks is the A’s have a great season and it they’ll have to play on the road in a one game elimination.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Did Palmer even do a postgame?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgCSsz3dorA
October 1st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Wolff looked like he was upset because the team pulled off the unbelievable.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:24 pm
i’ve been telling these knownothings in here for years the deefense we ran was not outdated. It’s the same defense the Giants run and many others it takes a lot more talented players but so what just get them. It doesn’t cost one penny more. All you have to do is get players that fit that system you can always run soem zone when needed which we did.
But certain ones on here made poeple believe the system was outdated somehow. It’s just one of many systems that have been around for eons that cover2 is as old as dirt yet they call it MODERN. There are some dumbells in here that think they know everything and they don’t know squat.
Even the Ryans are just running their fathers defenses it’s rare to find anything NEW it’s just the old stuff with a few tweeks.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
They win out they play at home as division champ.They tie for the wildcard and they play at home.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
666,
Thx realtru.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Raiders can learn alot from the A’s and bob melvin.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:28 pm
So is the tide turning on Allen now? You know, a thought popped in my head the day he was hired as HC, it was the one that he was a Bronco. There was no feel for competition, rivalry, or even that “Raider” feel a new coach brings sometimes.
As a matter of fact, even my wife said “He doesn’t look like a Raiders Coach.”
At the time, I wanted to be optimistic, and I told my wife that this was a classic Al Davis move, aside from Allen being a defensive coach, he was considered one of the top young bright football minds out there, and his future was bright. Besides, he was a young coach from a divisional rival and Al would’ve hired him and made yet another “youngest HC hire” in the NFL.
Then, the assistant hires started to come in. And here’s where I started to worry. The Knapp hiring should’ve been the biggest sign of them all. But I still held out hope.
Now, it all seems too familiar. And I know I am not the only one that sees this. My biggest question has always been, why tear apart a team that had gone 8-8 the 2 prior seasons, and that obviously had an offense that was capable of putting up points and that was able to win games by completely changing the system, and destroying what many consider to be the core of any offense, the Oline. How you ask? by letting go of the Oline coach, assistant coach (who actually quit), and replacing players on it, and forcing a system that is not fit for the players we have.
Every one knew the D was the problem. Which is why I had hope for the Allen hire, eventhough my gut told me something else. Not that I was a huge Hue Jackson fan, or anything like that, but in hindsight, I think it would’ve made more sense to let Hue stay as HC, giving him another year to see if he can finally make it to the playoffs, and bring in a new DC. I don’t think the purge of players on the D side would’ve made a difference, either way, it hasn’t now. So I am indifferent about it. It is what happened with the offense that bothers me.
There’s some serious and obvious problems with a system or coach, when you have the best running back in the league and a top running attack the previous 2 years, and in one offseason you turn both the player and the attack to the worst in the league. THIS IS THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THIS REGIME. FIX THE RUNNING THE GAME AND YOU WILL START WINNING AGAIN!
October 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
668 definently agree you decorate put your own twist on it but its still man to man or zone
just depends how and when you use it and your players
October 1st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Raiders can learn alot from the A’s and Bob Melvin.
But first u gotta get rid of some of the underpeformers. MORE guys like MILES BURRIS.. less guys like huff and kelly
October 1st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
FIX THE RUNNING THE GAME AND YOU WILL START WINNING AGAIN!
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You aren’t going to win many games with a good running game while your defense is on the field all day because they couldn’t stop a decent college team from moving the ball and scoring 30 something points a game.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Raiders can learn alot from the A’s and Bob Melvin.
But first u gotta get rid of some of the underpeformers. MORE guys like MILES BURRIS.. less guys like huff and kelly
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A’s in post season.
Dennis Allen, take note – THAT’s a team with HEART!
less bling, MORE STING!
less flash, MORE SMASH!
October 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders allow scores on 52.2% of drives compared to 35.6% last season
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This is what a real defense is?
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This is because teams are getting 20% more chances on offense because we can’t stop anybody and our offense is unable to move the ball in the second half. multiple 3 and outs and a minimal ball control time will drain your Defense by the 3rd Qtr everytime.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Don’t like the idea of handing out the bubbly.We need the next 2.
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Need the next 2 for the division.
so if its a tie, its a road elimination game for the Wild Card spot? Is that it?
October 1st, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Realtruraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen: “We’ve got lot of work to do. Have to evaluate what we’re doing.” Asked if use of zone blocking was one of those things, he said yes
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That is actually significant. He was staunch that the zbs was what we were doing come hell or high water basically. The fact he is saying he is willing to look at it is…something.
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BEST NEWS I’VE HEARD THIS WEEK.
Re-evaluate it, tweak it, than scratch it altogether in two weeks for Atlanta.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
They win out they play at home as division champ.They tie for the wildcard and they play at home.
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Thanks, Lefty. They have to get at least one or two – no 100 game winner in this MLB season, so teams like the Nats , A’s and O’s are balling out, this year!
October 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Anyone think Allen will really do something major over the bye week to get the offense going? I’m curious to see if he means business.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
A’s BABY!! Thats not the Raider field.. they dont deserve to be playing on that field.
I hear fans saying when are the A’s gonna be done.. shyyyyt A’s should be saying when is this pathetic f’n football team gonna quit tearing up our field? haha
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Damn straight. That field is for Champions….Raiders dont deserve to have a field. Ya gotta EARN IT!
October 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
FIX THE RUNNING THE GAME AND YOU WILL START WINNING AGAIN!
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You aren’t going to win many games with a good running game while your defense is on the field all day because they couldn’t stop a decent college team from moving the ball and scoring 30 something points a game.
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True Lefty, but you have to agree that by actually being able to control the clock with the running game, and keeping the D off the field, will increase your chances of winning drastically. Not to mention the fact of actually being able to score TDs when we get inside the 20.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
No,we are in.If we tie Balt the wildcard the game is at home.We are tied today.If we win the last two games we win the division and Texas is the wildcard.The new playoffs are goofy.There are 2 WC teams and they have a 1 game playoff to advance.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Orthodoxdj Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Anyone think Allen will really do something major over the bye week to get the offense going? I’m curious to see if he means business.
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You mean aside from Ocho Cinco AND Plaxico Burress?
October 1st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
yep time will tell if Allen means what he says. But I really think he does this time. He aint gonna f around anymore. He knows he only has so much time even if he has a 4 yr contract. Im sure he is already feel some time of heat.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:45 pm
EM,why did we beat the Stealers?We controlled the 4th qtr on both sides of the ball.We stopped them which in turn gave the offense more chances.It works both ways.Putting the total or even majority of the blame on the offense is just wrong.How about we only give up 17-20 points a game so we could have a chance and not force the offense to think they must score every position?
October 1st, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I really hope Mark Davis has some of his dad in him, and makes a couple of calls to Reggie and Dennis and tells them that this sorry excuse they call football is not acceptable.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Well, so much for this multiple defense we kept hearing about. Didn’t Corkran even promote that crap? Saying we should expect some interesting looks/alignments?
I guess a 4-3 zone that gets carved like a Thanksgiving Day turkey is supposed to be exciting? What a bunch of horsesh1t.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Lefty, I agree with you. It does go both ways. What I am saying is that the offense we had the last couple years was just fine. There was no need to change it besides maybe a tweak here and there. But by doing what Reggie and Allen did, I believe actually hurt the D. Now they have to be out on the field a lot more than they have to. Like you said, the D was able to stop the Steelers because the O was able to let have some ball control through out the game. So they were not all tired and had not been out on the field for about 3 full Qtrs when you add it all up.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
I agree with Sam. Finally SOMETHING to give a litte bit of hope.
It’s funny. All I ask is that they HONESTLY look at the situation on offense and defense and give an HONEST evaluation and be WILLING to make adjustments.
Check the ego’s at the door.
It seems way too early in the season to be this demoralized.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
The reason AD fired Gruden is because Gruden gained more attention than AD; that is the same reason AD severed his relationship w/Marcus Allen: Allen was so good he gained more attention than AD too.
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This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read. If that is the case then why didn’t he get rid of Bo jackson who was more famous than Marcus ever was. Or Howie Long, How bout Jim Plunkett. Tim Brown garnered some attention as well. There were a ton of players who outshown Mr Davis long before Marcus e=or Gruden ever got here yet for some reason they never got the treatment those two did. Answer that moron!!
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its also dumbest, because AL DAVIS NEVER FIRED JON GRUDEN. He traded him for 5 million and draft picks, and he probably wished he hadnt til his dying day.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
I agree with Sam. Finally SOMETHING to give a litte bit of hope.
It’s funny. All I ask is that they HONESTLY look at the situation on offense and defense and give an HONEST evaluation and be WILLING to make adjustments.
Check the ego’s at the door.
It seems way too early in the season to be this demoralized.
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I think the reality is starting to settle in…esp. after they pour over that tape …. it just seems like McFadden lacks the vision to recognize the hole or it closes to quickly , or opposing defenses get in position very quickly with their backside pursuit…
What is most troubling is that Knapp is already conservative to begin with and doesn’t seem to have a counter punch when his opening drive “scripted play calls” are ineffective.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:56 pm
DJ, that is the most important thing. Egos.
During the preseason games I came here and brought up all the issues I noticed then. Like the running game, the pass D, and not being able to score. I said that those could be issues that could linger into the regular season. And actually some people on here said that those things would be fixed and that it was only the preseason. But I said that those were things that for the Raiders, when they were issues in the Pre, they are almost always issues in the Reg.
And I brought up the point that if the zbs didn’t work by week 4, that I hoped Knapp had enough sense to change his gameplan to something that actually worked. We know what worked before, and it wasn’t the zbs.
This is really up to the coaches to make the necessary adjustments to the playbook to fix this mess of an Offense we are dealing with.
That is priority 1A to me. Priority 1B is the D.
October 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
I have stated that DA sucks. That is my opinion RIGHT NOW.
It is based partly on his hiring of Knapp, his unwillingness to change something that isn’t working, and getting blown out by Miami and Denver. The laffing it up with Fox didn’t help but whatever…i’ll let it go (as much as it irritated me to see). But…if he truly is going to evaluate EVERYTHING and make the obvious changes that need to be made? I will “adjust” my opinion as well.
October 1st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Didn’t Allen said at one point in his introduction that every team was going to be viewed the same? I think this is something that striked me weird then, and now it makes more sense to me. There’s no feel of rivalry for teams within the division, no feel of “us against them”. I don’t know, I could be wrong, but it strikes me as if the passion or “Raider passion” if you will, is not there with Allen.
October 1st, 2012 at 11:07 pm
knapps has no feel for the game he puts himself to sleep, gets discouraged and it hard to watch
October 1st, 2012 at 11:12 pm
EM, I get the same feeling. He’s 0-2 in the division as well which is not a good start.
If he respects Fox so much he should take note of how Fox changed the entire offense in midseason to accomodate the new approach with Tebow…and how it WORKED. There was no “patience” needed. They “adjusted” and won games..6 of their last 8 and they did it overnight.
October 1st, 2012 at 11:14 pm
someone enlighten me
say knapp is removed from play calling does he give his playbook to saunders or does saunders try to implement his scheme/system in two weeks
October 1st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
saunders has to be an option why would he have been kept around
plan B
October 1st, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Saunders wouldn’t need to “implement” or change the offense. He would just need to dust off Hue’s old playbook from last year. Which Palmer knows already, along with all our WRs and McFadden. You don’t have to scratch everything of Knapps either. But a nice blend of both would do I think. Like a 80-20 combo with Knapp’s having the 20%.
October 1st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Went to a Black Keys concert.. awesome. Helped put the stink of this team out of my mind for a while…
October 1st, 2012 at 11:27 pm
EMRaiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Didn’t Allen said at one point in his introduction that every team was going to be viewed the same? I think this is something that striked me weird then, and now it makes more sense to me. There’s no feel of rivalry for teams within the division, no feel of “us against them”. I don’t know, I could be wrong, but it strikes me as if the passion or “Raider passion” if you will, is not there with Allen.
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Different coaches lead differently. He’ll get the hang of it, with a few more anger inducing losses, then how resourceful he is in communicating that and developing unity with purpose to his team
October 1st, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Defending knapp is like defending oj
October 1st, 2012 at 11:29 pm
just thought the language was different between oc’s
October 1st, 2012 at 11:29 pm
anointed him better than Luck MORE THAN A YEAR AGO! The same weekend Barkley proved to me (against ASU last September) that he is woefully lacking in gametime management skills. . .
October 1st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
I have stated that DA sucks. That is my opinion RIGHT NOW.
It is based partly on his hiring of Knapp, his unwillingness to change something that isn’t working, and getting blown out by Miami and Denver. The laffing it up with Fox didn’t help but whatever…i’ll let it go (as much as it irritated me to see). But…if he truly is going to evaluate EVERYTHING and make the obvious changes that need to be made? I will “adjust” my opinion as well
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A lot of that is ego. A little humble pie is served, and its time to “get to work” and start modifying some things, before he loses that team – if he hasnt already – judging by the body language…. Gruden NEVER had a look of laughter after a loss.
October 1st, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Went to a Black Keys concert.. awesome. Helped put the stink of this team out of my mind for a while…
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i liked “Gold on the Ceiling” from the El Camino album
October 1st, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Uh, that’s I had RGIII near the top of the collegiate QB sweepstakes during his sophomore year & anointed him better than Andrew (Napoleon Dynamite)MORE THAN A YEAR AGO!
The same weekend University of Spoiled Children’s Matt Barkley proved to me (against ASU) that he is woefully lacking in gametime leadership skills. . .
October 1st, 2012 at 11:41 pm
“The further this regime drifts away from the truth, the further they will hate those that speak it”
October 1st, 2012 at 11:48 pm
During this bye they had better be making major adjustments. It’s ridiculous to think the offense will just start clicking. Four games is enough to determine it is NOT working. A coach shouldn’t be so hell bent on running a scheme. Look what Fox did with the donkey’s last year. He scrapped the offense and just went with plays that suited Teblow. You would think Allen being around at that time would have learned something about adapting and finding a way to get the best out of your players. The line and DMAC were different players last year. They need to analyze why that was and stop trying to be religious with Knapp’s offense. No way you can get the defense better without getting new players in the offseason, but the offense is not devoid of talent and should be carrying the team. And just get rid of Hoffman now. I’ve never seen Raiders ST this bad.
October 1st, 2012 at 11:52 pm
They played it.. great show. Place was crawling with chicks..
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 11:12 pm
EM, I get the same feeling. He’s 0-2 in the division as well which is not a good start.
If he respects Fox so much he should take note of how Fox changed the entire offense in midseason to accomodate the new approach with Tebow…and how it WORKED. There was no “patience” needed. They “adjusted” and won games..6 of their last 8 and they did it overnight.
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That’s right DJ. Reggie and DA, and freakish spawn, are ego involved and won’t change, and are determined to ram that way down our throats no matter how the losses accrue.
Reggie is a big, dumb, freckle faced affirmative action hand-me-down and was just in the front offfice of GB to make them look good.
DA looks like a high school kid with little experience in football or in life.
I own one service business and one of my employees recently exceeded his authority with a client and embarrassed himself and my company. The following day he was suspended indefinitely.
A good owner or manager can be the victim of his employee’s failure just once, and he then has a duty to adjust and remedy.
Knapp is an agent of DA, DA is an agent of RM, and they are all agents of freakish spawn.
They have all breached their duties to their principals by allowing failure to continue.
I wish they would all just disappear.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 am
The Oakland Coliseum belongs to the Oakland A’s right now.
The Raiders need to learn about what it means to have HEART from their Baseball counterparts!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 am
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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wow what coach help put up those stats in 2010 & 2011.
oh yeah the guy they fired. huejax laughs on.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 am
— The Raiders are last (32nd) in the league in rushing at an average of 60.8 yards per game. They were seventh last season and second in 2010.
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wow what coach help put up those stats in 2010 & 2011.
oh yeah the guy they fired. huejax laughs on.
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Hue Jax was the OC in 2010. Hue Jax and Al Saunders were the Head Coach and OC combination in 2011.
Both years our offense was top 10 and we were legitimately challenging for the division. This year we are bottom dwellers in the NFL..
Blame Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp for this.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 am
the same guys bashing Carson Palmer (lack of offense) for our 1-3 start are begging to have Hue Jackson back, lol
strange world we’re living in…
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 am
Just read an SI article on that Notre Dame LB’er Manti Te’o.
I want to draft that guy, physical, passionate, loves the game, loves his teammates and makes plays.
He is also very religious (a Mormom) and was asked who his heroe’s are and he said Mitt Romney and Tim Tebow, lol.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
717.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 am
the same guys bashing Carson Palmer (lack of offense) for our 1-3 start are begging to have Hue Jackson back, lol
strange world we’re living in…
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Amen, RRS.
The anti-Reggie, anti-DA rage is largely incoherent and a function, I think, of them not being Al Davis and committed to “Raider football.”
Mornin’ Nation.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 am
JFB,
As a middle linebacker, Te’o is everything RoMac is not. I wonder if we had him, or McClain played like we all thought/hoped he could when drafted, I wonder how much better the defense would look.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 am
How is it that the team with the consensus #1 running back in all of the NFL plays for the #32 ranked rushing attack after a quarter season? Irony? How is this even possible?
How does our OC Greg Knapp explain his track history for developing 1000 yard rushers in the wake of this pathetic stretch of games?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 am
Both years our offense was top 10 and we were legitimately challenging for the division. This year we are bottom dwellers in the NFL..
Blame Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp for this.
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Only offensive stat that matters is PPG. Last year they were 16th, right in the middle.
And the only reason the Raiders were legitimate division challengers is that they were in a bottom feeding division. 8-8 couldn’t sniff the division title in the NFC North or East.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 am
To be fair to HueJax, in 2010, they were indeed a top 10 offense in PPG.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 am
Two Words for everyone, “Mock Draft”. This season is a wash with these players and Knapp as OC. It’s hard to be patient, Raider Nation has been waiting 10 years and we still don’t have a quality product on the field. Knapp is the worse OC in the league, period.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 am
Let me ask y’all this: the Steelers needed an OC after letting Bruce Arians go. They interviewed Todd Haley and Hue Jackson. They picked Todd Haley.
if HueJax is such an offensive genius, why did they go with Haley?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 am
717.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 am
the same guys bashing Carson Palmer (lack of offense) for our 1-3 start are begging to have Hue Jackson back, lol
strange world we’re living in…
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Yeah, and your love affair with Knapp is sure working out fine too! 32nd in NFL in rushing.
ALL YOU GUYS THAT SUPPORT KNAPP, KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 am
How is it that the team with the consensus #1 running back in all of the NFL plays for the #32 ranked rushing attack after a quarter season? Irony? How is this even possible?
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A combo of Knapp sucking and D-Mac being nowhere close to the #1 RB in the NFL.
Take this year out of it, he had two crappy years, a really good year (still not THE BEST) and than a decent month and got hurt.
He is the Bernard King of RB’s. Great and electrifying at times, disappears in others, and never played many meaningful games.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 am
Forget about the stats. 16th? ok, if you say so. The Raiders were for the most part an explosive offensive attacking machine last year. At least they had the capability to execute a high scoring offense. The confidence level was high. It was the defense that was a huge failure, and we knew it.
I don’t buy that we wouldn’t challenge in another division or that we were lucky to be 8-8. Just a few more plays from the defense and the Raids would have been a playoff team last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:00 am
There’s no surer way to get me to tune out everything you say than the “YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME WAAAHHH” line.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 am
727.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 am
How is it that the team with the consensus #1 running back in all of the NFL plays for the #32 ranked rushing attack after a quarter season? Irony? How is this even possible?
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A combo of Knapp sucking and D-Mac being nowhere close to the #1 RB in the NFL.
Take this year out of it, he had two crappy years, a really good year (still not THE BEST) and than a decent month and got hurt.
He is the Bernard King of RB’s. Great and electrifying at times, disappears in others, and never played many meaningful games.
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And Knapp is a genious.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 am
A combo of Knapp sucking and D-Mac being nowhere close to the #1 RB in the NFL.
Take this year out of it, he had two crappy years, a really good year (still not THE BEST) and than a decent month and got hurt.
He is the Bernard King of RB’s. Great and electrifying at times, disappears in others, and never played many meaningful games.
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I don’t buy the Bernard King comparison. DMAC is brilliant and electrifying if he can get in the right scheme with good playcalling. In open space, at the second level there’s no better back in football. But he can’t squeeze blood out of a rock. The holes he sees as he approaches the line are mirages. He would be in the middle of a HOF career on any team with decent blocking and average OC. DMAC is elite, not for a sec am I downgrading his overall talent level.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 am
Guest, it’s not “if I say so.” The Raiders were 16th in scoring. The only thing that matters is if they scored points. It’s there in black and white.
They were an average team that was challenging for a sch!t division. No more, no less.
Look, I’m by no means pro-Knapp. At all. I am dedicated to trying to tear down this absurd hero worship of Hue Jackson however.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 am
725.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 am
Let me ask y’all this: the Steelers needed an OC after letting Bruce Arians go. They interviewed Todd Haley and Hue Jackson. They picked Todd Haley.
if HueJax is such an offensive genius, why did they go with Haley?
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Its the same reason you like Knapp and his ZBS.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 am
Its the same reason you like Knapp and his ZBS.
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What is that even supposed to mean?
And I’m not even a Knapp fan. Don’t care one way or the other about the ZBS, plenty of teams run it and find success with it.
Do you even manage to dress yourself without help in the morning?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 am
I’m no Hue Jackson worshiper. I said it before that his huge ego was out of control and he needed to be censored. I had hoped that McKenzie could coax him into accepting a subordinate role and stay with the team. But those 2 ego’s couldn’t exist in the same room. The offensive gameplans of Hue and Saunders with the line coaching of Bob Wylie with Uncle Wiz was effective. Could it have been better, sure. But it’s gotten much much worse. So I can understand the misguided loyalty to Hue. We had to move on. I don’t understand why this discussion is still being kicked around? What’s the point anyway?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 am
732.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 am
Guest, it’s not “if I say so.” The Raiders were 16th in scoring. The only thing that matters is if they scored points. It’s there in black and white.
They were an average team that was challenging for a sch!t division. No more, no less.
Look, I’m by no means pro-Knapp. At all. I am dedicated to trying to tear down this absurd hero worship of Hue Jackson however.
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The re-hire of Chuck Bresnahan bought us down, Hue was looking to hire another DCoor, but Al wouldnt have that.
And now you have your wish with the re-hire of Knapp that is killing this whole team…DA will have to learn from this the hard way, because you would have thought as an organization that the Raiders would learned a lesson.
IMO Gruden has been the only coach of recent that earned a shot at coming back, NOBODY ELSE!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 am
The issue with Knapp is his playcalling and lack of imagination.
Hue Jackson frequently outsmarted himself. Knapp’s the direct opposite. If we could find a happy medium between the two, we’d be good to go.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 am
I don’t understand why this discussion is still being kicked around? What’s the point anyway?
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I agree to an extent. I only talk about it because people keep bringing up firing Hue Jackson like it was a mistake and pointing to his offense as some kind of NFL Gold Standard.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 am
734.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 am
Its the same reason you like Knapp and his ZBS.
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What is that even supposed to mean?
And I’m not even a Knapp fan. Don’t care one way or the other about the ZBS, plenty of teams run it and find success with it.
Do you even manage to dress yourself without help in the morning?
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Do you manage to watch FOOTBALL?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 am
We had an opportunity to be a playoff team last year, only our team went 1-4 down the stretch, lost our last two home games and completely crapped the bed with our season on the line.
Over those last 5 games, that “high-powered” offense averaged 19.8 points a game, a whopping 3 points more than we are averaging this season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:16 am
HUE,GRUDEN,FLORES,SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET MADDEN RETIRE..WHERE DOES IT END ??
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 am
740.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 am
We had an opportunity to be a playoff team last year, only our team went 1-4 down the stretch, lost our last two home games and completely crapped the bed with our season on the line.
Over those last 5 games, that “high-powered” offense averaged 19.8 points a game, a whopping 3 points more than we are averaging this season.
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I’ve been yelling about this for a week now and it has yet to sink in. I doubt it ever will.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:18 am
“We’ve got a lot of work to do,” Allen said Monday, one day after the Raiders lost to the Denver Broncos 37-6. “We’ve got a lot of areas that we’ve got to improve on.
This bye week comes at a good time for us, gives us a chance as coaches to look at and evaluate what we’re doing, who we’re doing it with and come up with solutions that can help us get better and help us win some games.”
Specifically, Allen and his staff need to find out why the Raiders are getting outplayed in the second half, why the defense is allowing more than 31 points per game, why the run game is last in the league and how the Raiders can jump-start things for the final 12 games.
This isn’t what Allen hoped to be doing during the bye week. Yet, he said, he is confident that he and his staff can get things turned around before their next game, Oct. 14 against the Atlanta Falcons.
“We’re not going to stick our head in the sand,” Allen said. “We’re going to evaluate everything and see what things we need to improve on and where we can get better, and there’s a lot of things that go into that. We’re going to go from A to Z. We got a lot of getting better to do.”
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1/4 season evaluation and basically what we have learned about coach Allen and his coaching staff is that they were unprepared for the regular season. Now they have to diagnose all the problems and somehow get a lot better just in time for one of the elite teams in the Atlanta Falcons who shred teams regularly with Julio Jones, Tony G, and Roddy White. Lord have mercy on us coming out of the break.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:18 am
I can admit that Hue’s ego cost him, but you cant argue with the relative success, and what could have been if he was allowed to hire another D-Coor, instead of Al brining back C.Bresnahan.
But it is what it is, and as long as Knapp is playcalling and we use his system, we might win between 3-5 games.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 am
But it is what it is, and as long as Knapp is playcalling and we use his system, we might win between 3-5 games.
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Knapp’s playcalling is crap, no doubt.
Even more than his playcalling it’s his use–or non-use–of personnel. No Pryor, little Ausberry, took him 3 weeks to discover Marcel Reece, he won’t re-jigger his offensive line….on and on.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:20 am
Over those last 5 games, that “high-powered” offense averaged 19.8 points a game, a whopping 3 points more than we are averaging this season.
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Again, stats don’t tell the story correctly. We had the Detroit game in our hands, we had a good chance with San Diego. We had the Buffalo game earlier. Any one of those games and we aren’t discussing meaningless stats.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 am
Knapp has no imagination, its painful to watch, its like watching paint dry, or grass grow…but because im such a fan im gonna cont to see us play to the tune of 3-5 wins…I really dont think that any QB could play his system…when the re-hire was made I knew it was gonna be a long year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:25 am
I have no doubt Allen, Reggie, et al will take an in depth look at everything but I really wonder what they can do at this point.
Replacing Knapp just isn’t an option at this point. If this keeps up, he’s gone at the end of the season for sure, but he’s going to get 16 games, like it or not. Might as well deal with it.
Seriously, if anyone has an idea as to what steps the Raiders can take to improve coming out of the bye week, I’m all ears. The best I can come up with is improved use of available personnel.
I think the real decision for Reggie will be whether or not to just blatantly tank the season after this and trade away anyone he can get his hands on.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 am
Why do people think Hue would have hired a good DC?
His GM moves last season were all a major debacle, I am pretty sure he would have found a way to screw that up as well.
If we wanted to keep the best staff, it was Cable at HC, Hue at OC. That team scored more points than 2011, had less penalties, went 6-0 in the division, and fought hard down the stretch of the season.
That’s what people should be clamoring for.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 am
Hey, I’ll pile on Greg Knapp if that’s the theme of this morning’s discussion. But let’s also dole out a fair share of criticism to the entire defensive unit. They looked lethargic, playing like they were stuck in 2nd gear. They jogged after plays, slumped shoulders, no fire off the ball. It looked like they were all hungover.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:28 am
We had the Detroit game in our hands, we had a good chance with San Diego. We had the Buffalo game earlier. Any one of those games and we aren’t discussing meaningless stats.
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Yup, bad coaching lost all three of those games for us.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 am
750.guest123 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 am
Hey, I’ll pile on Greg Knapp if that’s the theme of this morning’s discussion. But let’s also dole out a fair share of criticism to the entire defensive unit. They looked lethargic, playing like they were stuck in 2nd gear. They jogged after plays, slumped shoulders, no fire off the ball. It looked like they were all hungover.
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The defense is a disaster but I have a hard time blaming Tarver. (Not saying you are, just expanding a thought)
Both starting corners are down. The MLB is a human tire fire. Seymour and Kelly are running on fumes at best.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 am
And the only reason the Raiders were legitimate division challengers is that they were in a bottom feeding division. 8-8 couldn’t sniff the division title in the NFC North or East.
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So 8-8 couldn’t sniff the division title in the North or East…..but 9-7 won the Super Bowl.
Yeah, you make a whole lot of sense. I see why Ddwight said that you don’t know football…smh
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 am
How hard is it to play balls out for each and every play? I mean…I never played pro football so I don’t know. But we’re talking about 50 to 60 plays at most per game, with breaks and rest in between. And paid in the millions per year to make just a few plays inside those 50 plays. How can anyone justify their paycheck when the film shows jogging and slowing up to tackle the ballcarrier? Some of these guys are paycheck cashers nothing more I swear. Looking at you Slowlando.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 am
POST-751,JAGS GAME ALSO
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 am
So 8-8 couldn’t sniff the division title in the North or East…..but 9-7 won the Super Bowl.
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You’re right, that’s my bad, wasn’t thinking. Bad example.
But the point still stands: 8-8 couldn’t get close to the divison title in a division with actual good teams: the NFC North, NFC South (top 2 teams finised 13-3 and 10-6) last year, or AFC North (Top 3 teams went 12-4, 12-4, 9-7)
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:40 am
Last year’s team had playoff hopes on the line, and went to Miami and got housed, it was 34-0 in the 3rd quarter. That’s a Ohio State vs Akron score. The week before against Green Bay might have been worse, but at least they were a good team.
Last years team found ways to win some tight games (Texans, Chiefs, Bears, Browns, Bronco’s), and the staff, Hue and the players deserve a lot of credit for that.
But even in those wins, it was obvious that at times we were not a good football team. Bad execution, bad coaching decisions, can’t convert any crucial 3rd downs offensively or defensively, historic penalty levels, awful teams play. Eventually the clock struck midnight and we turned into the pumpkin we REALLY WERE down the stretch of the season. We were outscored by almost 70 points in our last 5 games, and lost both home games.
We could have brought back Hue, Wimbley, Routt, all the cast and still be easily looking at 5-11 this season.
Now I didn’t think this season would get off to this start, but if it takes one step back to get two steps forward, I’m with it.
Last year’s team was falling off the cliff to end the season, and I am not clinging to the 160 pound ex-girlfriend.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:43 am
I know that some people were concerned that Murphy was going places, you dont have to worry much
WR Louis Murphy tweaked an ankle against the Falcons and coach Ron Rivera said Murphy would likely be wearing a boot Monday.
Another low performance for Murphy, who is doing nothing to warrant consideration for the No. 2 wideout spot. He now has two catches for 15 yards combined in the last three games, after grabbing three for 63 yards in Week 1
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:44 am
Now I didn’t think this season would get off to this start, but if it takes one step back to get two steps forward, I’m with it.
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The crux of the matter right here.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:43 am
I know that some people were concerned that Murphy was going places, you dont have to worry much
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Those were dumb people.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
The D-line is old and on their last fumes, and we never replaced the edge pressure of Kamerion Wimbley. Going into the season, Reggie should have done something about that. It’s time to go with the young bloods and put TK and Seymour in as rotational players.
But, letting Wimbley go was no huge loss either. He’s been run roughshod over in the run and since that first sack in game #1 has disappeared.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:46 am
guest123 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
The D-line is old and on their last fumes, and we never replaced the edge pressure of Kamerion Wimbley. Going into the season, Reggie should have done something about that.
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Thought we had that guy on the roster in a healthy Matt Shaughnessy, sadly.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:48 am
if it takes one step back to get two steps forward, I’m with it.
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This requires patience. Raider fans aren’t a patient lot. That includes me. Patience is so overrated as a virtue. Time is of the essense. No man is guaranteed to live tommorow. It’d do or die right now. Yes, I’m impatient and have seen some teams have a history of rebuilding over decades and nothing to show for it. Screw rebuilding! I want it now!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 am
If we wanted to keep the best staff, it was Cable at HC, Hue at OC. That team scored more points than 2011, had less penalties, went 6-0 in the division, and fought hard down the stretch of the season.
That’s what people should be clamoring for.
Nice! I was just thinking the same thing but I am a Cable Homer with a Cable jersey.
He is the man. Hue would not have done squat if Cable had not fixed the oline and the running game.
We are now seeing the effects of no pimp hand.
The only time we have had a running game which opened up the passing game in the past ten years is under Tom Cable.
It started declining as soon as he left.
He is now doing the same thing in Seattle.
Hue has never done scat but Tom has a long history of fixing olines
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 am
Plain and simple.
If AD and or Hue Jackson were in charge of this debacle of a team right now people would be blaming them for a lack of preparation, bad coaching, bad roster moves, everything, they would be calling for Hue’s inmediate firing.
But since it’s Reggie and DA, they get a pass and that’s laughable.
Look it, I don’t wanna fire those guys, we won’t and we souldn’t, I believe in Reggie and DA, more in Reggie, but you can’t give those guys a free pass, whatever their plan was for this year is not working, hopefully we can fix it and get back into contention, it is not out of the question for me.
AD is dead and Hue is not coming back, this is Reggie and DA’s team now, they should be held accountable and criticizied for the product they’re putting on the field, I’m pretty sure they can take it too, unlike some delusional fans in here.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:43 am
I know that some people were concerned that Murphy was going places, you don’t have to worry much
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Those were dumb people.
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You can add to them everyone who was wailing and gnashing their teeth just a few short weeks ago about “OH MAH GAWD! REGGIE TRADED BEAST CAMPBELL! BEAST CAMPBELL IS GONE! HE’S A SURE-FIRE HALL-OF-FAMER! WHAT EVER EVER EVER WILL WE DO WITHOUT BEAST CAMPBELL! THE WORLD IS ENDING! HELP US JAYSUS!”
“Beast” Campbell is currently third-string, only been active for one game and (AFAIK) has not seen the field ONCE this year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
Louis Murphy plunging down a Carolina WR depth chart that isn’t overstuffed with talent to begin wtih.
DeMarcus Van Dyke has yet to record a single stat outside of special teams.
But, please, keep telling me how Reggie blew it with those two!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
I have said this before, and I will say it again, because you Knapp fellatio artists are obviously slow of comprehension as well…
It is not so much about Hue Jackson PERSONALLY that we are interested in. It is about the offensive FOUNDATION and SCHEME that he implemented with a measure of success and promise.
A Coach is not just about X’s and O’s. It’s about being a leader of MEN. Hue Jackson failed miserably in that regard because of his own ego and grandstanding.
But anyone that wants to see what we COULD have been this year, needs only to look across the water to San Fran Sissy-co. Mike Singletary was NOT a leader of men. His tactics of yelling, screaming, intimidation, and exposing himself in the locker room to try and get his point across failed miserably.
But the one thing Singletary did despite the Niners losing record, was build a solid DEFENSIVE FOUNDATION.
So when the new GM and Harbaugh came in, even though they hired a new defensive coordinator, they kept essentially the same defensive principles and schemes in place that Singletary had already implemented. They didn’t try and change the team to a 4-3 defense or do some other radical change on defense.
They didn’t call it a REBUILDING year while they tinkered and experimented with some new defensive scheme that didn’t BEST FIT their players! No they kept the defense essentially in tact and ADDED TO IT, while focusing on the offense.
And what was the result despite the 49ers having virtually no juggernauts on offense last season???? A near Super Bowl berth in Harbaugh’s ROOKIE SEASON AS A COACH! Now this season by building upon their foundation a little bit more, they are a top 3 team in the entire NFL.
The Niners and Raiders were almost mirror images of each other just on the opposite side of the ball. The difference is the Niners used common sense and sound football acumen to turn their season around in one year, while the Raiders have managed to turn their offense and by extension the entire team into the Bad News Bears of the NFL!
Now read this and still attempt to fondle Knapp and Allen’s man parts some more, so we can see just how clueless you guys are!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Is it just me or does Tarver look like beavis?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:53 am
RaiderDuck,
Good call on Campbell, I had totally forgotten about him
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Last years team found ways to win some tight games (Texans, Chiefs, Bears, Browns, Bronco’s), and the staff, Hue and the players deserve a lot of credit for that.
Throw the jets in that mix. Sancho fell a foot short on the final play. One more play and that game is a loss
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:56 am
NICE POST MARLEY 765..
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:57 am
A solid foundation on offense?
When the season ended in 2011, the Raiders had: an injury prone lead back, a backup who wore down when asked to carry a full load, an aging QB, a patchwork offensive line, no #1 WR and no tight ends.
That’s a solid foundation in what universe?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:59 am
AD is dead and Hue is not coming back, this is Reggie and DA’s team now, they should be held accountable and criticizied for the product they’re putting on the field
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Can’t see many mistakes out of Reggie other than giving Branch big dollars.
Allen’s big gaffe so far is hiring Knapp. Granted, that’s a huge one, but it’s correctable.
No problem criticizing them for those two things, but it seems a lot of people are inventing reasons to go after them.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:00 am
I am not of the opinion that DA and Knapp and Reg are all great. I am of the opinon that they are the Raiders right now, like it or not.
So I support them and hope they can turn it around just like I have done for Al all these years.
But I knew this was coming. I was not niave enough to think that anyone could come in and run the team better then Al Davis, all by himself I might add.
Just adds to my appreciation of the man
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:00 am
Most of us have said all along that Al Saunders was the man for the job.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Plunkethead, so far youre leading the contest.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:01 am
But I knew this was coming. I was not niave enough to think that anyone could come in and run the team better then Al Davis, all by himself I might add.
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Al running the team himself had lead to 9 straight years of losing with no better prospects than 8-8 in sight.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:03 am
1st quarter of the season:
1- we didn’t improve our biggest problem from last year. Our Defense is allowing 30+ points/ game.
2- our offense can’t score 20 points/ game.
3-our STs unit didn’t improve.
GREAT WORK NEW COACHING STAFF.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:03 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:59 am
No problem criticizing them for those two things, but it seems a lot of people are inventing reasons to go after them.
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I particularly love it when people blame Reggie for Bartell’s broken shoulder blade and Spencer’s lisfranc, even though neither one has ever had those injuries before. Reggie’s not Nostradamus.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 am
The last 5 games of last season, we were outscored by an average of 32.4 to 19.8, per game.
The first 4 games this season, we are being outscored 31.2 to 16.8.
Pretty much the same team, and we have two common opponents in those two samples, home game to SD and in Miami.
To me things certainly haven’t gotten any better, but really they haven’t gotten any worse either.
Same old Raiders.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:05 am
I MISS AL!!
The old man would not toleratethis crap.
That’s a fact!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:06 am
749.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 am
Why do people think Hue would have hired a good DC?
His GM moves last season were all a major debacle, I am pretty sure he would have found a way to screw that up as well.
If we wanted to keep the best staff, it was Cable at HC, Hue at OC. That team scored more points than 2011, had less penalties, went 6-0 in the division, and fought hard down the stretch of the season.
That’s what people should be clamoring for.
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But, you cant positively say that he would not have…after all 2 guys that were considered heavily that are currently having success were Todd Bowles (hes currently coaching eagles secondary, and Dennis Thurman who I believe is coaching jets secondary) Bowles secondaries are always rated very high statiscally more recently dolphins who had a good secondary—but other issues that prevented them from winning.
Thurman has ties also with the Ravens, and we know there success. All I am saying is usually 1 good coach can spot another good coach, and Hue was not given that chance (despite his ego) which I will admit was large.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:06 am
771,
I agree, but we can say that in many games…like Super Bowls. If Mason had one more yard against Rams…if Tyree doesn’t make that catch for the Giants..if Santonio Holmes doesn’t keep his tip toes in bounds etc. etc.
ALOT of games come down to a yard here or there..ALOT.
If u win….u win and Raiders FOUND A WAY in those games u mentioned and deserve credit for it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:08 am
Al Saunders re-signed up to be a replay monitor consultant. If he had any dreams of calling plays again, why would he take that offer from us? He could have passed and thrown his hat in the ring for some OC jobs, or tried to work up from a QB coach or something.
He hasn’t called plays in 5 years now, and seems to be winding down his coaching career.
I bet he retires at the end of the year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 am
All I am saying is usually 1 good coach can spot another good coach, and Hue was not given that chance (despite his ego) which I will admit was large.
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I think we can both agree, that if Hue hired a DC, there would have been no middle ground. It either would have been a solid hire, or a complete disaster.
Such is the boom or bust world of Hue Jackson.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:08 am
Al Saunders re-signed up to be a replay monitor consultant. If he had any dreams of calling plays again, why would he take that offer from us? He could have passed and thrown his hat in the ring for some OC jobs, or tried to work up from a QB coach or something.
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Actually, he did interview for the Chiefs OC spot, but lost out to (I think) Brian Daboll.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:11 am
Amy thats great especially since i am the only entrant.
Someone should come up with something just as good
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:15 am
768. Great post.. some of these guys just dont get it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Al had a hard time adjusting to not being on the field and being bedridden but he was learning and had us on track for another SB run.
He knew all he had to do was win the weak AFC west and catch fire at the right time. He was looking for the next Gruden but backstabber Lane set him way back.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:05 am
I MISS AL!!
The old man would not toleratethis crap.
That’s a fact!
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Really? Who was running the team when they lost at least 11 games 5 years in a row?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:17 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:57 am
A solid foundation on offense?
When the season ended in 2011, the Raiders had: an injury prone lead back, a backup who wore down when asked to carry a full load, an aging QB, a patchwork offensive line, no #1 WR and no tight ends.
That’s a solid foundation in what universe?
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Let’s analyze your points one by one…
*an injury prone lead back:
No, not just any ole back with an injury. But a legitimate NFL MVP candidate before his injury last season and still one of the top 100 players in the NFL as voted by his peers
*a backup who wore down when asked to carry a full load
No a backup who had almost a thousand yards rushing in about half a season and showed countless times that he could get the job done. Not too shabby for a backup.
*an aging QB
What was Gannon? What was Plunkett? This post is so dumb I won’t even continue to address it.
*a patchwork offensive line
Um, the patchwork line that was ranked 5th in the entire NFL especially when it came to protecting the QB…and 7th in running the football despite injuries to the lead back.
*no #1 WR and no tight ends
Who was the Niners #1 WR last year? And if we are talking about 2010 and 2011 which were the years of Hue Jackson, you clearly forgot about Zach Miller right?
It is clear. SilverNBlackPA…you DON’T know anything about football!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:17 am
768 solid post.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Yeah the 49ers metaphor is great and all, only their defense never ranked 16th in points allowed like our offense did in points scored.
You are comparing a top-flight defense to an average offense.
But yes, DA is no Jim Harbaugh, we can agree on that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 am
781.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 am
The last 5 games of last season, we were outscored by an average of 32.4 to 19.8, per game.
The first 4 games this season, we are being outscored 31.2 to 16.8.
Pretty much the same team, and we have two common opponents in those two samples, home game to SD and in Miami.
To me things certainly haven’t gotten any better, but really they haven’t gotten any worse either.
Same old Raiders.
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Co-sign
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Al had a hard time adjusting to not being on the field and being bedridden but he was learning and had us on track for another SB run.
He knew all he had to do was win the weak AFC west and catch fire at the right time. He was looking for the next Gruden but backstabber Lane set him way back.
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How was Kiffin a backstabber?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:19 am
Wonder what Larry Foote would look like trying to play 4-3 MLB???
Wonder if we could trade 55 to a team that runs the 3-4?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Settle down fellas, no need for personal attacks, let your valid or weak points speak for themselves.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
768. Thats an very accurate assessment!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 am
ArmChair, you are alarmingly stupid.
-I don’t care how good McFadden is when healthy, the point is that he’s injury prone and that’s a dubious anchor for any offense.
-Good for a backup, sure, but the point remains: he wore down as the season went on and, again, that’s not any real part of a “solid foundation.”
-Palmer is good, but, YET AGAIN, a 32 year old QB is not part of a foundation for building toward long term success.
-Aging Carlisle, journeymen Barnes and Satele. Veldheer and Wiz were the only young guys who have a long future in the league. When 3 out of 5 of your offensive linemen are old and/or stopgaps, the unit as a whole can’t be considered part of a foundation for success. Veldheer & Wiz? yes. The whole o-line? No.
-Why are we talking about the 49ers offense? This is about the Raiders. And the point remains: no #1 WR.
I don’t know if it’s accidentally or willful ignorance on your part, but you’re missing my point: no part of the Raiders offense last year could be considered 1/10th as reliable as any part of the San Francisco defense could in terms of a foundation to build upon.
And allow me to return to an earlier point as well…who cares how old Plunkett and Gannon were? They’re part of a bygone era. Like so many Raiders fans, you’re living in the past, pining for days that are long gone and will never, ever return and who ultimately don’t know sch!t from apple butter as the saying goes.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:26 am
2 yrs of solid rushing reduced to this.. putrid. Last yr we could score and cp3 didnt even know the playbook.. now he knows it. The ints are down but the offense is worse.. cant run or pass
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Marks hair Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:15 am
768. Great post.. some of these guys just dont get it.
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Thanks Mark’s Hair. And what’s worse is not only do these guys not get it, they refuse to even address the simple logic of it.
What was The Niners record under Singletary’s two year as Head Coach??? It was 8-8 and 6-10!!!! Clearly worse than our back to back 8-8 records.
But they were still smart enough to keep the scheme and defensive principles that worked under Singletary.
Harbaugh didn’t say, “Singletary had a losing record with the Niners so we’re gonna switch up the defense to a 4-3″
Why Allen didn’t follow a similar principle here with the offense is beyond bewildering to me.
That’s why I say that the ONLY thing that makes since is misguided cronyism and nepotism. Knapp and Allen are personal friends, and Knapp must have somehow sold Allen on scrapping the ENTIRE offense of the previous 2 years and trying to implement an entirely new offense even though we had almost no draft picks and almost all players were carry overs from the previous scheme!
It’s the only thing that can even begin to explain what is going on right now because it makes ZERO SENSE!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 am
800.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 am
ArmChair, you are alarmingly stupid.
-I don’t care how good McFadden is when healthy, the point is that he’s injury prone and that’s a dubious anchor for any offense.
-Good for a backup, sure, but the point remains: he wore down as the season went on and, again, that’s not any real part of a “solid foundation.”
-Palmer is good, but, YET AGAIN, a 32 year old QB is not part of a foundation for building toward long term success.
-Aging Carlisle, journeymen Barnes and Satele. Veldheer and Wiz were the only young guys who have a long future in the league. When 3 out of 5 of your offensive linemen are old and/or stopgaps, the unit as a whole can’t be considered part of a foundation for success. Veldheer & Wiz? yes. The whole o-line? No.
-Why are we talking about the 49ers offense? This is about the Raiders. And the point remains: no #1 WR.
I don’t know if it’s accidentally or willful ignorance on your part, but you’re missing my point: no part of the Raiders offense last year could be considered 1/10th as reliable as any part of the San Francisco defense could in terms of a foundation to build upon.
And allow me to return to an earlier point as well…who cares how old Plunkett and Gannon were? They’re part of a bygone era. Like so many Raiders fans, you’re living in the past, pining for days that are long gone and will never, ever return and who ultimately don’t know sch!t from apple butter as the saying goes.
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You say you dont support Knapp? Then what should the Raiders do? you have all the answers.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:29 am
Plunketthead,
IMO Kiffin is a BAD GUY..period. What he did to Tennessee? Not only did he leave after saying he was gonna be there long term he had the gall to say he “left the program in better shape than when he got there”. THEN he proceeds to recruit away as many guys as he could away from the program and turned a perennial national contender into an sec bottom feeder for years…they are still trying to recover from ‘Hurricane Kiffin’.
During an interview shortly after that famous Al presser he was asked specifically about some of the accusations Al made and he said ‘I don’t wanna get into that right now’. Alot of the stuff Al said about him was true and Kiffin knew it.
Al just looked like the scumbag cuz of the way he addressed it publicly with the overhead and all that…which was embarrassing for Al no doubt, and all Raider fans. That was bad. Wish he hadn’t of done that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:30 am
Hiring Knapp and switching to the ZBS was a huge mistake on Allen’s part. It’s just that simple
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:30 am
802.ArmChair GM Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Marks hair Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:15 am
768. Great post.. some of these guys just dont get it.
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Thanks Mark’s Hair. And what’s worse is not only do these guys not get it, they refuse to even address the simple logic of it.
What was The Niners record under Singletary’s two year as Head Coach??? It was 8-8 and 6-10!!!! Clearly worse than our back to back 8-8 records.
But they were still smart enough to keep the scheme and defensive principles that worked under Singletary.
Harbaugh didn’t say, “Singletary had a losing record with the Niners so we’re gonna switch up the defense to a 4-3″
Why Allen didn’t follow a similar principle here with the offense is beyond bewildering to me.
That’s why I say that the ONLY thing that makes since is misguided cronyism and nepotism. Knapp and Allen are personal friends, and Knapp must have somehow sold Allen on scrapping the ENTIRE offense of the previous 2 years and trying to implement an entirely new offense even though we had almost no draft picks and almost all players were carry overs from the previous scheme!
It’s the only thing that can even begin to explain what is going on right now because it makes ZERO SENSE!
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Another good post Armchair!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:31 am
Out.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:31 am
LOLOLOLOL
Funny posts this morning.
“Only Al Davis loyalist think we have talent on offense.”
I wouldn’t call Kell an AL Davis loyalist, Sully!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 am
You say you dont support Knapp? Then what should the Raiders do? you have all the answers.
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We have to hope it gets better throughout the year, and if not fire him at the end of the season.
You don’t fire OC’s 4 games into the season, even if they deserve so. That’s how you end up with Steve Sarkiskian telling you “no thanks” to your coaching job.
Knapp may be a bad hire, but you don’t overreact and act irrationale for the whole coaching fraternity to see.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 am
You say you dont support Knapp? Then what should the Raiders do? you have all the answers.
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I don’t support Knapp, no. I wish him success obviously, but he’s a bad playcaller and a worse user of personnel.
And I don’t have all the answers, nor do I claim to. I have some opinions, which I’m offering, which is what I thought the point of the comments here was.
Frankly I’m not sure I see a lot of options for the Raiders to go better than 5-11 at this point.
I said it the other day and I”ll say it agian: the disconnect here is between people who thought Hue Jackson’s offense was amazing and those who thought it was average.
The Raiders offense is below average now, no doubt, but it’s also no great crime to want to replace an average offense and try something else, which is what Allen did. His solution isn’t working, but it wasn’t a bad thing to try.
If the offnese doesn’t improve and Knapp comes back next year? I’ll be all over Allen’s case then.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 am
808.J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:31 am
LOLOLOLOL
Funny posts this morning.
“Only Al Davis loyalist think we have talent on offense.”
I wouldn’t call Kell an AL Davis loyalist, Sully!
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Oh Oh! Another Knapp Lover.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:33 am
An oc from the giants or suanders would have been my choice for oc.. knapp is the wrong guy all around.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:33 am
We have to hope it gets better throughout the year, and if not fire him at the end of the season.
You don’t fire OC’s 4 games into the season, even if they deserve so. That’s how you end up with Steve Sarkiskian telling you “no thanks” to your coaching job.
Knapp may be a bad hire, but you don’t overreact and act irrationale for the whole coaching fraternity to see.
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You’re on point today, JFB
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:34 am
Wish he hadn’t of done that.
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Not I.
If you are going to roll out 30+ years of mostly crappy football, the least you can do to entertain me is blast your previous coach in historic fashion.
That presser is maybe my #1 Raider highlight over the last 6-7 years.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:34 am
It’s been real, fellas, but I gotta go work for money now.
Remember: it’s a marathon, not a sprint. And Knapp’s hiring might have been a mistake, but it doesn’t mean you should scrap DA. Peace out.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:35 am
ArmChair,
I don’t completely disagree with you, but I don’t believe a new scheme, or the old scheme is THE problem/solution.
We needed a new C and RG at a minimum regardless of what we did.
Needed at least 1 starting CB even if we kept Routt.
Holes on the roster are glaring IMO.
Knapp is not a good OC, but our roster is terrible.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:35 am
810.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 am
You say you dont support Knapp? Then what should the Raiders do? you have all the answers.
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I don’t support Knapp, no. I wish him success obviously, but he’s a bad playcaller and a worse user of personnel.
And I don’t have all the answers, nor do I claim to. I have some opinions, which I’m offering, which is what I thought the point of the comments here was.
Frankly I’m not sure I see a lot of options for the Raiders to go better than 5-11 at this point.
I said it the other day and I”ll say it agian: the disconnect here is between people who thought Hue Jackson’s offense was amazing and those who thought it was average.
The Raiders offense is below average now, no doubt, but it’s also no great crime to want to replace an average offense and try something else, which is what Allen did. His solution isn’t working, but it wasn’t a bad thing to try.
If the offnese doesn’t improve and Knapp comes back next year? I’ll be all over Allen’s case then.
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Got news for you if Knapp doesnt improve soon, they will relieve him of play-calling, BANK IT!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:35 am
Thanks Marley and Ddwight…
The positive thing here(if anyone got to see the DA press conference) is that even he is starting to apparently wise up, contrary to the drivel of these guys like Raider Riff, Duck, SilverNBlack, Sullivan, blah, blah, blah.
In the presser, Allen used words like “re-evaluating EVERYTHING from top to bottom including our schemes…”, “Taking their heads out of the sand…”, “Implementing systems that put our players in the best positions to succeed…”
He was then asked specifically if that included the zone blocking scheme, and he answered “YES, we will be re-evaluating everything…”
Allen is apparently not as confident in his own methods and schemes as several of these clowns on this blog. But why it took him a quarter of a season to finally figure out what we all clearly saw from the beginning is what is disturbing.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:36 am
KNAPP’S FAULT
Greg Knapp has a lot of good looking plays in his playbook, so in an interview for OC, he can look good.
BUT…
He does NOT know WHEN to call the plays! After a 3 and out on the first possession of the 2nd half, the Raider get the ball with the following plays called: 2 runs up the middle for 8 yard. On 3rd and 2, he decides to call a freakn SWEEP play off the tackle?? Result: 3 and out…again. Surprise surprise, the defense is now tired.
He has no idea when to call which plays. We have no RHYTHM on offense, we don’t force the defense to stop anything except McFadden.
KNAPP: Learn to exploit things, force the defense to stop something besides Mcfadden running/catching out of the backfield. If passes over the middle to Myers work, KEEP DOING IT until they are forced to defend it. We make 1 good play on a good pass, then go back to our bread and butter with Mcfadden. EXPLOIT what you are given and when the defense if forced to defend it, THEN go back to McFadden.
COME ON!! This is pathetic! The only good plays we have had are the ones where Palmer calls an audible at the line. The deep ball to Moore, the long run against Pitt, were both Palmer calls at the line. The calls coming in are not creative and randomly picked at random times.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
The people that want to wait and see.. and “maybe” want knapp gone next yr baffle me.. why wait? Why?? He wont get better we’ve seen him suck for YEARS..
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
That deep ball to Moore was not an audible, he never even looked Moore’s way.
Moore ran the play that was called in the huddle, I think Carson was barking out line calls to the O-line and a decoy symbol to the RB’s.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
I don’t even believe any a problem with the zone blocking scheme. The problem is NOT the blocking scheme, its the SEQUENCE of play calling.
There are a lot of good plays in the arsenal, they are just dialed up using a random play generator.
Random play generators don’t establish a rhythm.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:41 am
why wait? Why??
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Well, we have waited 10 years for a playoff game, you telling me we don’t got 10 games to see if Knapp can get things moving?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:41 am
AGAIN!!! The only thing DA had to do was keep the same offense from the past two years and fix the defense. He changed an offense that was not broken. This offense was ranked 5th and 7th the last two years. The defense was garbage. You don’t make changes when there is no reason to do so.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:42 am
I was hoping we could Chuck Pagano as coach. I guess we dodged a bullet there.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:43 am
818.ArmChair GM Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:35 am
Thanks Marley and Ddwight…
The positive thing here(if anyone got to see the DA press conference) is that even he is starting to apparently wise up, contrary to the drivel of these guys like Raider Riff, Duck, SilverNBlack, Sullivan, blah, blah, blah.
In the presser, Allen used words like “re-evaluating EVERYTHING from top to bottom including our schemes…”, “Taking their heads out of the sand…”, “Implementing systems that put our players in the best positions to succeed…”
He was then asked specifically if that included the zone blocking scheme, and he answered “YES, we will be re-evaluating everything…”
Allen is apparently not as confident in his own methods and schemes as several of these clowns on this blog. But why it took him a quarter of a season to finally figure out what we all clearly saw from the beginning is what is disturbing.
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True, and as I and others were saying before the season started we knew that Knapp was a bad choice for OC (the past proved that). In fact some believed that the Defense like myself would make a big improvement, but that the Offense would take a step-back (but i could not envision a GIANT STEP BACK like this…thus the whole teams body language including the defense is suffering from such a poor offense…it has become demoralizing for the whole team.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
That deep ball to Moore was not an audible, he never even looked Moore’s way.
Moore ran the play that was called in the huddle, I think Carson was barking out line calls to the O-line and a decoy symbol to the RB’s.
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It looked like an audible. Moore had single coverage. I knew that Palmer was going to throw it to him before it was snapped.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
823… No… knapp is what he is.. a bad coach and poor playcaller.. this is his LAST oc job… da shouldnt just hire friends
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
thus the whole teams body language including the defense
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I think we have bad body language because we have lost 7 of our last 9 games, and have been blown off the field in 4 of the 9 games.
Body-language wasn’t so hot down the stretch of last season either.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:46 am
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:35 am
ArmChair,
I don’t completely disagree with you, but I don’t believe a new scheme, or the old scheme is THE problem/solution.
We needed a new C and RG at a minimum regardless of what we did.
Needed at least 1 starting CB even if we kept Routt.
Holes on the roster are glaring IMO.
Knapp is not a good OC, but our roster is terrible.
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J-Hill the major problem I see here is coaching. Do we have star players at every position…No! But essentially this SAME team, had success the last two seasons DESPITE injuries upon injuries last season.
Coaching took a patchwork line of average players and made them a top 10 offensive line.
The fact that 4 out of 5 starters on the o-line are the same as last year incriminate the coaching staff, more than anything else.
Tom Cable, Bob Wylie, Al Saunders, and Hue Jackson had our offense improving and showing clear progress. In one quarter of a season Greg Knapp and Frank Pollack have managed to mire us in offensive ineptitude that we haven’t seen since the Bed and Breakfast era of Walsh and Shell.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hear ya Al Big,…I wish Big Dummy Reggie would catch a dose of what Pagano has. Prob solved.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
How can it be an “audible” if he doesn’t give the audible to the guy he threw it too?
Go re-watch it. He switches up the RB’s, barks at the RT, gives a hand signal to the other WR, and never even looks at Moore pre-snap.
Maybe they have a fancy system of audibles that allows guys to change plays based on how the QB readjusts the RB’s, or one of those “if I don’t give you a signal” this play is on thing.
Could be true I guess, seen crazier things in baseball with signals.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:49 am
Everytime the Raiders bring back a coach that previosly work for them it spelled disaster. Art Ahell, Greg Knapp and Chuck Bresnahan, They all failed or are failing the second time around.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
But essentially this SAME team, had success the last two seasons DESPITE injuries upon injuries last season.
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And what, we haven’t had injuries this year?
Not making excuses for this years team, because you CAN NEVER make injury excuses in the NFL.
Injuries are part of the game, every team goes through it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hear ya Al Big,…I wish Big Dummy Reggie would catch a dose of what Pagano has. Prob solved.
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Wishing cancer on someone because you don’t approve of their job as GM? REALLY???
You are a sick, disgusting human being.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
JON GRUDEN 2013….if that were to happen, the lid off The O would explode and the good times that were here ten years ago would return. Its like that. I will leave the DA and Knapp boring crap to you shut ins. I have spoken. You have listened.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Its a league of parity.. our players arent all great but its rare to hear other players say we lose games because of a lack of talent.. at this level the coaches make the difference..
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Hey Duckie,..I couldnt care less about your opinion of me,..comprende?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hear ya Al Big,…I wish Big Dummy Reggie would catch a dose of what Pagano has. Prob solved.
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So you wish a horrible disease on him? Really. It’s cancer dude. You are and absolute freaking moron.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:55 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hear ya Al Big,…I wish Big Dummy Reggie would catch a dose of what Pagano has. Prob solved.
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You’re the biggest idiot ever on the board. ever. hands down.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:56 am
I am not a hue fan, but I really dislike Knapp . For some of you to minimize that last year we were 8-8 is unfair. IMO last year we were closer to 9-7 or 10-6 rather than 6-10. I still have nightmares of cj37 dropping that int in the end zone against buffalo or roslowdo leaving the middle wide open on 4th down. Or watching robusto trying to check calvin johnson.
IMO i felt after 8 games we would be 4-4. we still have a shot at that , but its critical even behind the scenes for saunders to get more responsibilty. i wish knapp would be gone, but that wont happen until the season is over. in fact, im not sure reggie will fire him, reggie may just get rid of dmac and go after zbs runners like cedric benson. i dont even want to think about hearing the name knapp in 2013-14
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
829.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
thus the whole teams body language including the defense
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I think we have bad body language because we have lost 7 of our last 9 games, and have been blown off the field in 4 of the 9 games.
Body-language wasn’t so hot down the stretch of last season either.
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That was as a result of big plays being made agaisnt our defense, with Chuck Bresnahan poor schemes, putting LB’s on of all people MEGATRON!!! Do you remember that?? Huh? These re-hired coaches are killing us, if they didnt work the 1st time why would it work the 2nd time? Its like trying to make it with a former wife, why would any body think it would be better or change (no common sense)
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
No Mas,..hope you catch a dose of it too. Word.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:58 am
I belive moore had an option route based on coverage.. all cp3 had to do was adjust the blocking.. moore and cp3 didnt need to speak
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:58 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 am
I don’t understand why this discussion is still being kicked around? What’s the point anyway?
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I agree to an extent. I only talk about it because people keep bringing up firing Hue Jackson like it was a mistake and pointing to his offense as some kind of NFL Gold Standard.
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Hue did it with his starting QB, RB, and WR’s out.
Those guys playing, yeah the O would have been the “gold standard”, or did you forget the injuries?????
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:58 am
Actually,..I didnt go far enough,..the whole team needs a dose of whats ailin Pagano,…then Mark can just hire Bruce and Jon and start from scratch,..prob solved,…can I get an Amen?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
No Mas,..hope you catch a dose of it too. Word.
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What do you bring to this board?
What value do you bring to the world, for that matter?
You obviously have no job.
No family.
No friends.
You’re worthless.
What purpose does your continued existence serve?
Nobody would miss you if you were gone.
Nobody would care.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
What up Amy? how ya doing Bruh???
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
Eh, AmysinCharge is clearly a troll… don’t let it fire ya up.
So, to the college guys out there, anyone want to start breaking down QBs for me, or any other potential #1 overall picks? My ideal situation for next April (barring a miraculos turn around of course) is that we have the #1 pick, and we are able to trade back for a bounty of picks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 am
The C!!…nuthin ese Im just giving these morning shut ins a hard time to go with their Starbucks. lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 am
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
What up Amy? how ya doing Bruh???
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He’s wishing cancer on everyone in the world he doesn’t like. Charming, huh? Kind of our very own “Uncle Eddie” Savitz.
(If you don’t know who I’m talking about, here’s the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Savitz )
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 am
Once again, 24 has never been able to ignore me,…nice to see some things never change.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
The C, unsure if you make it up for every game or just the big ones, but we have something special goin on for the Jags game, hope to see you there bro.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
Dennis Alen has two strikes.
strike 1. Bringing in gregg knapp. He has no history of being great. You knew what you got when you hired him, he’s been aroung the league so long and you seen what his track record is, and yet you somehow think that this guy is going to be great? I would of rather seen a first time oc, at least there’s hope that the new guy could be the next sean payton.
strike 2. Smiling with jon fox after the azz kicking that denver gave us. Shows no heart and passion to want to be great. If i worked everyday, 12 hours a day, put all my heart and energy into it, and then see that it was all a failure, dont think i would be acting like allen.
one more strike and he’s out. The pitch coming is what are you going to do with knapp? ( after the season) If you say your going to keep him for 2013, you just struck the fck out, hit the road azzhole.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
Anyway, the Eagles cut Brian Rolle. Should probably kick the tires on him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
Id like to take geno smith this yr.. trade back next yr.. any good rebuild needs a franchise qb.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
The C, unsure if you make it up for every game or just the big ones, but we have something special goin on for the Jags game, hope to see you there bro.
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I got season tickets. Sec 120 row 9. I will be at the Jags game. What do you want me to bring bottle wise for ya?
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Usually I don’t care for Bleacher Report, but Hansen is a good writer. Some interesting insight in this article.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
putting LB’s on of all people MEGATRON!!! Do you remember that?? Huh?
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I do, and I also remember Chuck crapping the bed week 2 against Buffalo.
I also remember him NOT BEING FIRED during the year, when he clearly should be.
Same will happen with Knapp, you will get another 12 games from him, minimum.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
If clowney from SC enters the draft, i would not trade down and i would take him. he’s a de/lb thats a freak athlete and most importantly a playmaker
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
gotta escape.. All you guys have a good one.
1 NATION
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
Hmmm,…lets see….ah anything you like dude cause we drinkin it together.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
Later legend, dont work too hard.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:07 am
paying Gruden what it takes to come back would bring excitement but would it be a bad move and why?
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:08 am
bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
So, to the college guys out there, anyone want to start breaking down QBs for me, or any other potential #1 overall picks? My ideal situation for next April (barring a miraculos turn around of course) is that we have the #1 pick, and we are able to trade back for a bounty of picks.
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WVU QB Geno Smith has an amazing statistic of throwing more TD’s (20) than he has incompletions (18) on the season. That’s just crazy!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:09 am
Inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:07 am
paying Gruden what it takes to come back would bring excitement but would it be a bad move and why?
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http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GrudJo0.htm
Pass. Check out his record following his first season (where he won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team). Very mediocre.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:09 am
It important we evaluate tp so we know what to do in the draft.. id play tp the rest of the way. Seasons over
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 am
If we go 5-11, 6-10 ish, here’s my draft projections:
-First, trade Carson to the Jets (if they also implode this season) for hopefully a 1st, if not a 2nd and a 4th or something, but let’s stick with the 1st for now (we can give them Carson and a 5th if need be to get the 1st from the Jets).
-Trade down from our pick in the 7-10 range, to the 15-20 range.
-Draft either a safety, or edge rusher with our first pick (don’t know the prospects just yet) and draft a QB with the other.
My QB wish in that range is Aaron Murray.
Or we can package the picks to trade up for Geno, who I think will be a top 5 pick.
Let new QB and Pryor battle it for the starting job, probably go 6-10 again, and stock piling lots of young talent defensively.
Not the most exciting, but probably the most realistic.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:12 am
Geno plays UT this weekend I believe, finally a real challenge for him.
I am sure that place will be loaded with scouts, because frankly, you got derive much when playing Baylor, James Madison and Savannah State.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:12 am
Or we can package the picks to trade up for Geno, who I think will be a top 5 pick.
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or we could roll with TP like Marks Hair said & control our own destiny with a 2-14 mark.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
No mind AmysInCharge, he is the meth head formerly known as Norco Bob. The guy has always been a worthless piece of sh*t.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:14 am
We cant get a 1st rd pick for cp3… maybe a 2nd
Dmac….maybe a 2nd
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:14 am
We won’t go 2-14, with Jamarcus Russell at QB.
Jags, Browns, two Chiefs games, Bucs games.
We might be favored in all of those games, and will will at least a few of those and maybe another 1 or 2 outside of those.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:14 am
Trade Carson and McFadden to Jets for Tebow and Rex Ryan.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:16 am
A 1st straight up for Carson might be tough, but don’t count out the ineptness of the Jets to try to stay relevant and make a splash.
If need be, we can attach a late pick or a 2014 3rd rounder or something to get their first.
It can happen.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
Defensive adjustments to be made this week:
#1. Bryant should be starting on the line, Kelly and Sey should be rotating with each other if anything.
#2. Huff CAN NOT play CB. He and Branch should be sitting in cover 2 looks almost exclusively at this point.
#3. Our CBs should be playing more man. They are not grasping the zone schemes and leaving way to many holes (particularly on the crossing routes). Man coverage man not stop the completion but it should reduce the yac.
#4. Find a way to get 55 to play for 60 damn minutes or get rid of him. He is a liability on the field
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:19 am
Carson Palmer isn’t going to fetch even a 3rd round pick after the season if we keep marching him out there to take the poundings he’s been taking. This year could shorten his career expectancy by a couple of years. His value is flittering away. Who wants an old QB with no upside. Lot of them on waivers. Look at what Jason Campbell’s career ended up after all that hard work and talk of leading a team to the playoffs. A paltry one year 3 million dollar deal. His time is almost up. It’s not that different when you consider CP3’s age. We overvalue him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 am
Palmer has value to a team that thinks they need a vet presence at QB to take them over the edge (i.e Jets).
QB’s get traded for massive sums of picks in this league.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Post 876.
Great take. Except in order of priority, #4 should be listed as #1. Why isn’t there a writeup by Jerry or Cork that details just how sluggish and nonchalant #55 was in that game? Not that he was alone. But look at #55 and all you see is someone who doesn’t care. I don’t think there is a way to get through to him, it’s best to cut our losses and make an example of him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:22 am
The jets are the only team that might kinda want cp3… no way we get a 1st.. maybe if we added dmac to the deal.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
Sorry Al Big,..never tried meth,..clearly you have though.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GrudJo0.htm
Pass. Check out his record following his first season (where he won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team). Very mediocre.
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he went 11 -5 in 05, never had a good qb besides Gannon. Same was said about ratface only winning with Elway but RGIII has ppl referring to him as a “genius” again. I’m big on continuity, why I wanted Hue to take over for Cable (didn’t think Cable was bright enough) and why I wanted Hue to stay on this year but it’s not that we’re 1 -4, it’s that we’re:
1. getting blownout
2. a defensive minded HC has our d playing horrible
3. an oline that was top tier last year is horrible
Bring me Gruden, Marty Schottenheimer or Bill Cowher and i’d bet our team is much more motivated. You want to start small than at least bring a new oline coach, Wylie would be perfect, to get this group back to playing like last year
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 am
Bring me Gruden, Marty Schottenheimer or Bill Cowher and i’d bet our team is much more motivated. You want to start small than at least bring a new oline coach, Wylie would be perfect, to get this group back to playing like last year
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Name one Superbowl-winning head coach who unretired, went to another team as a head coach, and won another Superbowl.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:05 am
I MISS AL!!
The old man would not toleratethis crap.
That’s a fact!
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Really? Who was running the team when they lost at least 11 games 5 years in a row?
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MR aka Sully,
Why do you think we had so many coaches during that period? Because he tolerated losing? lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
Jets have too much invested in both Sanchez and Tebow. They just extended Sanchez a big $$ deal. Don’t see them trying to retool so much as gut it all, fire Rex and rebuild like Indy did.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:26 am
Fear not, Toolbags. Shane Lechler will lead this team to VICTORY!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:27 am
Name one Superbowl-winning head coach who unretired, went to another team as a head coach, and won another Superbowl.
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Dick Vermiel comes to mind, ok he was a SB losing coach before unretiring. But it’s pretty close to your criteria anyway.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
Why do you think we had so many coaches during that period? Because he tolerated losing? lol
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He also didn’t tolerate anything even remotely resembling “insubordination”. The only winning coach he managed to hire in the last two decades was one he traded away.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Better to roll with TP and throw the towel on the season and suck for Geno. What’s the point in only mildly sucking??? The Colts, Skins, Panthers all turning around their franchises with elite QB’s. I hate losing, but it seems like the only way to get a clear turnaround of direction.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Name one Superbowl-winning head coach who unretired, went to another team as a head coach, and won another Superbowl
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Marty’s won everywhere he’s gone. Shannanahan looks to be competetive now and the near future. Tuna was competetive for multiple teams. Bill Belichek was a loser with Cleveland has a perennial powerhouse in New England. Tom Coughlin was supposed to be fired for years and now he’s a hall of famer. Just because it hasn’t happened before doesn’ mean it can’t happen life is dynamic it isn’t all based on precedence. Do you believe Gruden Schottenheimer or Cowher wouldn’t yield us a better record than 1 -4 or better than how we’ll end the year with Allen as coach?
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Guest123 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
Jets have too much invested in both Sanchez and Tebow. They just extended Sanchez a big $$ deal. Don’t see them trying to retool so much as gut it all, fire Rex and rebuild like Indy did.
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You talking about the Jets…home of the Yankees!
What makes you think they won’t?
Arizona might be another good fit.
Miami?
Browns?
Jaguars?
Chiefs?
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:05 am
I MISS AL!!
The old man would not toleratethis crap.
That’s a fact!
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Really? Who was running the team when they lost at least 11 games 5 years in a row?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MR aka Sully,
Why do you think we had so many coaches during that period? Because he tolerated losing? lol
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He cared about winning his way. Obviously Al would rather have lost 11 games than let his coaches choose their own D-Coordinator.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
Dick Vermiel comes to mind, ok he was a SB losing coach before unretiring. But it’s pretty close to your criteria anyway.
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Right, so none.
The point is, everyone thinks “oh, let’s hire Gruden/Cowher and everything is solved!” And that’s so far from the case.
Listen, the way consistently competitive teams build is by creating a consistent philosophy through the front office, the scouts, and the coaching staff. Then it’s a matter of the scouts finding the right players to execute the concepts that the coaching staff wants to implement.
It sounds simple, but it’s the toughest thing in the NFL to do. You basically have to catch lightning in a bottle. It takes a perfect storm of coaching, talent, and organizational stability to create a winning team and keep them a winning team. That’s why only a handful of teams in the NFL have managed to stay at the top.
So it’s not just a matter of throwing Jon Gruden into the mix, and then everything will be a cakewalk. In fact, the worst thing the Raiders could do at this point is fire Dennis Allen after one season. That’s why it won’t happen.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
In fact, the worst thing the Raiders could do at this point is fire Dennis Allen after one season. That’s why it won’t happen.
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Agreed. But a decision should have been made at Reggie’s level to hire the right coaching staff, with Allen’s input of course. But the decision should have been at Reggie’s level. No 40 year old rookie coach should have that much power that soon. Going into next year, DA’s authority in choosing replacements for Knapp and Tarver should be made unilaterally by Reggie. DA needs to have his duties streamlined and authority stripped.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
I don’t believe Allen is going anywhere, Reggie Mck believes in the guy and he was actually a hot prospect. First time our organization got a hot prospect to actually come coach this franchise in a long time. But what makes anybody in here think we’ll win more than four games this season? Is that acceptable even in a rebuilding year? Who do we rebuild around?
Moore
DMAC
Veldheer
Wiz
Reece
Burris
Bryant, Houston, and Shaughnessey might come around
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:49 am
Agreed. But a decision should have been made at Reggie’s level to hire the right coaching staff, with Allen’s input of course. But the decision should have been at Reggie’s level. No 40 year old rookie coach should have that much power that soon. Going into next year, DA’s authority in choosing replacements for Knapp and Tarver should be made unilaterally by Reggie. DA needs to have his duties streamlined and authority stripped.
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Sorry, that’s how real franchises do things. I’m sure McKenzie was involved, but I’m also sure he was handed a short list by Allen.
I’m not saying that Allen’s hires were without fault. But you don’t forge a relationship between the front office and coaching staff by undermining the guy you apparently had enough confidence in to hire in the first place.
Was I thrilled with Knapp being hired, or Fassel being let go? Nope. But I’d be much less thrilled if McKenzie was the type of GM who imposed a “my way or the highway” ultimatum on his coaching staff. The Raiders just had that kind of management style, and it wasn’t effective.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:52 am
It’s pretty commonplace for head coaches (especially rookie ones) to bring guys in who don’t work out the way they planned. I don’t judge them for that necessarily – what I’m going to judge them on is how they address the problems late in the season and after the season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:55 am
o it’s not just a matter of throwing Jon Gruden into the mix, and then everything will be a cakewalk. In fact, the worst thing the Raiders could do at this point is fire Dennis Allen after one season. That’s why it won’t happen.
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your right about the culture being the most important thing but sometimes you don’t get the right guy and if we continue to get blown out it’s obvious DA is not the right guy because regardless of talent a good coach get’s his team to compete and in the afc west we’re not vastly inferior playerwise to the competition yet we look like it. If Gruden, Cowher, or Marty fit within the culture then there’s nothing wrong with bringing them in just because a coach that’s won a superbowl has never retired then won another one. Vermeil retired then came back with the Rams and won. Pete Carroll was an average pro HC went on to be one of the greates college HCs ever then came back to the pros and looks to have a very competetive squad in Seattle, how often does that happen? Marty never won a sb but has won with ever team he’s coached. Gruden never had a good qb with Tampa but managed to win a sb went 11 -5 in 05 and seems to love him some silver and black. Life is dynamic, just because it hasn’t happened before doesn’t mean it won’t happen and retired coaches have come back and coached competetive teams which i’d be more than willing to settle for as that can be a building block on the way to a sb
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 am
Sure, you have to give some authority to the coach you trust to run the franchise. But it’s back to the trust but verify approach.
Ever buy a big screen TV or automobile and the salesman sing praise over how dependable the product is and how reliable it will be? Then when you decide on finally purchasing it, they go on and on about the need for an extended warranty because it could break down at any moment.
That’s kind of similar to giving over all the keys to coach Allen before he’s broken in the car. He needs to be mentored and brought along for his own good and the protection of the franchise.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:58 am
We all knew knapp was an idiot but i didn’t know Allen “compete to the end” was a bigger idiot.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
Tarver won’t be replaced. He is working with crap. He inherited the 29th ranked defense, lost some players, and is now the 32nd defense. We just dont have the defensive pieces to be competitive, the BEST players on our defense are little better than mediocre, with flashes of good play. Tarver would be overachieving if this defense was ranked 20-15th in the nfl. I mean, if we still had Bartell and Spencer starting our secondary would be MUCH better, and by extension our rush defense. Losing Bartell halfway through the SD game was a critical injury, and unfortunately reggie didnt have the money or picks to provide depth to cover those injuries.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:03 am
Joselio Hanson, Pat Lee, Michael Huff, Tyvon Branch Matt Giordano and Rolando Mcclain meet Julio Jones Roddy White Tony Gonzalez and Michael Turner. Yikes!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 am
I thought we had enough talent to win the west. We were 8-8 the last 2 years (with bad coaching and a bad GM according to some), and now we have a good GM and staff according to you people, but we are on pace for a 4-12 season?!?!?
You People……..
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 am
it’s obvious DA is not the right guy
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Just like it was obvious that Belichick wasn’t the right guy for Cleveland when he went 5-11, right?
Realize that no franchise in the modern era has ever had to make a turnaround the way the Raiders need to. The one guy in control of all things football operations – hiring the coaches, college and pro scouting, EVERYTHING – died without a true succession plan, and without a modernized franchise. And because of his last-ditch efforts to “win now” he left the football side of the organization with an unsustainable financial situation. You’re looking at a roster largely comprised of players who have never in their careers been asked to be accountable or disciplined, because Al Davis didn’t believe in those things. He believed that sheer athletic talent would overcome everything else. There was no way that this transition was going to happen seamlessly.
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we’re not vastly inferior playerwise to the competition
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Disagree here. Roster has holes everywhere.
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Life is dynamic, just because it hasn’t happened before doesn’t mean it won’t happen and retired coaches have come back and coached competetive teams which i’d be more than willing to settle for as that can be a building block on the way to a sb
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Sure it COULD happen – but it’s not a sure thing. No more than it’s a sure thing that Dennis Allen will get the franchise turned around. But I’d rather have a hungry young coach than a coach who is more than happy sitting behind a desk at ESPN.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:08 am
I can’t say I’m not disappointed with the defense’s performance. I thought Allen was working with a much less talented unit in Denver and he put them on the right path. I suppose the difference there is that at least Miller and Dumervil were there to bring pressure.
Allen might have to get more involved and help Tarver come up with some ideas to bring more pressure on the QB. I haven’t seen Branch or Huff blitzing a lot, which surprises me – but maybe that speaks to the talent level of the guys behind them.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Why won’t anyone just call it like it is? This is Al Davis’s fault. How long did you think you could continue to mortgage the future? How long did you think you could continue to gamble with draft picks? Reggie didn’t build this team, sure he made over the bottom 20 players on the roster, but it is still Al’s team. Dennis Allen may or may not be a good coach, but to judge him on his first September is just repeating the same stupid mistake this franchise has constantly made over and over. Listen, you can’t give a guy a pinto and fire him when he doesnt win the Daytona 500.
I agree, the Knapp hire was a mistake, but guys make mistakes. Reggie and Dennis will correct that after the season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Sure it COULD happen – but it’s not a sure thing.
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no way is it a sure thing I just wouldn’t continue to stand behind a coach who’s team isn’t motivated and continually get’s blown out. If the spread for the Atlanta game is 24 points i wouldn’t bet on the Raiders
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Dennis Allen may or may not be a good coach, but to judge him on his first September is just repeating the same stupid mistake this franchise has constantly made over and over.
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Yep.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:15 am
no way is it a sure thing I just wouldn’t continue to stand behind a coach who’s team isn’t motivated and continually get’s blown out. If the spread for the Atlanta game is 24 points i wouldn’t bet on the Raiders
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Hue Jackson got blown out, too. Sorry, but with the state the secondary is in it’s going to happen a few times this season.
But I expect the performance to improve, and I’m sure as hell not expecting the Raiders to fire Allen before he gets a chance to have an actual draft and free agency period. Just makes no sense whatsoever.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
What sucks is that were basically going to have to wait 3 weeks in order to see this team have a chance at another win. I don’t think I can take three more weeks of reading the pain and suffering of my fellow fans on this blog before our next win.
I mean, do you honestly think we have even the most remote shot at beating the Falcons next Sunday? Good God, its going to be a freaking massacre. I should really bet my mortgage and my student loans on this game. I could be debt free by October 15th…
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
You guys thought we got an @$$ whoopin in Denver?
Wait till we play Atlanta!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Where is all this talent on defense?
Great players – none
Good players – Shaugnessy, Bartell (can’t stay healthy), Bryant (at least appears to be)
Mediocre players – Houston (needs to move to tackle), Kelly, Seymour, Wheeler, Burris (lot of upside to this kid) Huff (safety), Branch, Spencer
Below average – Lee, Hanson, Giordano, Mitchell, Huff (CB)
Bad – McClain, has the talent but his effort and desire make him as bad as Jamarcus Russell was, a cancer to the defense
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Hue Jackson got blown out, too
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by KC Green bay and SD, Cable in 2010 by Tenn Pittsburgh and Miami that’s 3 times in 16 games, we’ve been blown out twice this year and yes our cb’s are atrocious but we were atrocious at stoppping the run last two years. I agree too early to fire him, if Carter is Carter and Spencer comes back sooner than later it’s HUGE then if Allen remedies the OL woes we’re in business but if the players don’t respond to Allen you need to get the right guy in here to implement the plan
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
what this team needs is a REAL HC with attitude, Dennis Allen is a B*tch. I think Winston Moss would had shown more emotion then this douchebag, He Greg Krapp and that moron of McKenzie should be called the 3 Stooges.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
In the summer, our cap took a hit close to 10mil when reggie signed bartell(3 mil), franchised Branch(6.2) mil and spencer million plus. I realize after free agency transitioned into preseason he did restructure. But IMO 10 million could have brought in 2 quality corners. Or quite frankly 1 would settle for 1 top tier CB and live with the practice squad players reggie brought in anyway. I’m not as high on branch as many of you. he’s an athlete only, and while he makes a big hit once in a while. He looks like he has the mcclain disease which is being in the wrong place more often than not.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
at least dallas sucks!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:41 am
I wish Reg could trade CP for Touchdown Timmy and draft picks
CP is a better QB but Tebow would be a great fit for us right now
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Blame this season on AL?!
Thats retarded!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:43 am
Inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
at least dallas sucks!
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Oh yeah, and Cleveland is winless, too.
Pathetic,if that makes you feel good.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Blame this crap on a GM that died last year at the beginning of the season?!
Pathetic!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Stop blaming Davis, already. The man is no longer with us. If you want to entertain this Davis bashing then you also have to compare last year with this year, and guess what, we’re worlds worse than last year with mostly the same guys, unless you think Wimbley Routt Satele made all the difference.
We were told this team could compete. Well so far the offense, defense, and special teams are much worse than last year so I dont want to hear it.
Does that mean we can write the book on DA? No! But so far it’s crap. Call it like it is and move on.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Blame this crap on a GM that died last year at the beginning of the season?!
Pathetic!!!
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Pathetic is right!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
ABP See DJ’s post at 804
Kiff is a backstabber because he never intended to stay here. He was using Al just like he use Tennesee
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Amazes me how people can flat-out ignore cause and effect. Defend Al Davis all you want, but sooner or later you’ll have to recognize that his management style over the last two decades is the primary reason for the state of the Raiders right now.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Who hired Knapp? AL?
Who hired Tarver? AL?
Who hired DA? AL?
Was AL also responsible for releasing/ adding players this season too?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
914.raiderdav Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
what this team needs is a REAL HC with attitude, Dennis Allen is a B*tch. I think Winston Moss would had shown more emotion then this douchebag, He Greg Krapp and that moron of McKenzie should be called the 3 Stooges.
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The most emotion DA has shown is when he was all happy go lucky with John Fox after getting humiliated with the worst Raider loss against Denver since 1962.
Honestly, not trying to be jerk or exaggerate when I say this…it was the happiest i’ve ever seen him.
He did show some emotion when Jano hit that fg against Pittsburgh though.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Who hired Knapp? AL?
Who hired Tarver? AL?
Who hired DA? AL?
Was AL also responsible for releasing/ adding players this season too?
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Who is responsible for the vast majority of the roster?
Who is responsible for the unsustainable financial situation and lack of draft picks?
Who is responsible for YEARS of coaching inconsistency where players were not expected to be disciplined or accountable?
Who is responsible for the Raiders becoming a joke over the last two decades, where few established or respected coaches would even consider coming?
Who is responsible for the Raiders having no clear succession plan in place, leaving the new management with the task of modernizing a 50-year-old franchise (that until recently was entirely controlled by one man) in a single season?
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
In addition, the jury is still out on all the moves the regime made. But we’ve had 20 years of the modern era to see how Al Davis’ management style has worked. And it hasn’t. Now he’s gone, so it’s time to try a new way.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
the new* regime
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
reggie is just plain dumb….cant get it thru his thick skull…practice squad players are not going to help us win….
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:07 am
the three stooges it is….
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Vegas
Put me on the that was great presser list
Al looked liked hell but he showed he still had the fire. If the players who cashed his checks cared half as much as Al, we would go to the SB every year
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Folks have no idea what record we’d be sitting at right now with Davis still around, but are ready to pass judgement. Laughable.
Mostly the same players and we torpedo to the bottom of the league in rushing and defense. We thought our defense was bad last year. Lol. Boy were we in for a treat.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Al didn’t yard for CP. Hue did, and that’s why we didn’t have a 1st this year or a 2nd next year. You can’t Blame Al since he was dead before the trade.
Big contracts and salary cap issues you can blame on Al, but that’s it.
He is DEAD, so get over it!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Nyraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
In the summer, our cap took a hit close to 10mil when reggie signed bartell(3 mil), franchised Branch(6.2) mil and spencer million plus. I realize after free agency transitioned into preseason he did restructure. But IMO 10 million could have brought in 2 quality corners. Or quite frankly 1 would settle for 1 top tier CB and live with the practice squad players reggie brought in anyway. I’m not as high on branch as many of you. he’s an athlete only, and while he makes a big hit once in a while. He looks like he has the mcclain disease which is being in the wrong place more often than not.
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they’d have to release both Kelly and Seymour to free up 20 mil in cap space
look at – Terrence Knighton, DT, Jacksonville, CB Cary Williams (Baltimore) or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Charlie Peprah, might be worth a look as he played in GB during McKenzie’s tenure there and did quite well (5 ints)
look at drafting Johnathan Hankins or QB Geno Smith (depending on them staying with Palmer)
or move toward other picks
Abry Jones, DT, Georgia, Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois, Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia, Tavon Austin, WR/KR, W.Virginia
and also look at Marcus Lattimore of S.Carolina, incase (gasp) they’d move on from Darren McFadden (who is heading for a contract year in 2013 and may want to bounce if ineffective Greg Knapp is still OC)
there’s also the matter of replacing Rolondo McClain. – Manti Teo?
a lot of work to be done.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:13 am
bunk moorland Says:
one more strike and he’s out.
I will inform Amy to get his check ready
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:13 am
Allen sounds so stock in what he said but what else can he say, whats gonna change for real probably nothing. They will stick with the same players on the field . I give knapp 4 or 5 more losses like we’ve seen lately. Then they will strip him but the season will be over by then….. I mean playaction in the 4th down by 3 touchdowns cmon knapp amatures know better thanks that
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:14 am
We have some hope. For the first time DA is saying that he is willing to look at EVERYTHING..including the zbs.
This is a good sign.
I hope he looks at using the 3-4 as well.
Seriously…why the heck not?
We couldn’t Denver to punt ONE TIME on Sunday.
How much worse could the 3-4 be?
Also, if he is HONESTLY evaluating EVERYTHING…McClain will be on the bench against Atlant. There is no way to justify what the pos is doing out there.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Folks have no idea what record we’d be sitting at right now with Davis still around, but are ready to pass judgement. Laughable.
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Al Davis isn’t here right now. He’s dead. Sorry, what he would do is irrelevant.
What is relevant though, is what he HAS done. The revisionists here would have us forget 7 straight 11-loss seasons, multiple draft busts (that the Raiders still feeling the effects of to this day), running countless coaches out of town, and high-dollar free agent signings that didn’t pan out. This season is the direct result of his management style over the last two decades.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
Trade*
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Cork and Jerry showed you the numbers. Davis never presided over a defense so bad as this.
But, yep, Al’s to blame. Lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
I hope he looks at using the 3-4 as well.
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Have you been watching the games? There’s been plenty of 3-4 defense.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:14 am
We have some hope. For the first time DA is saying that he is willing to look at EVERYTHING..including the zbs.
This is a good sign.
I hope he looks at using the 3-4 as well.
Seriously…why the heck not?
We couldn’t Denver to punt ONE TIME on Sunday.
How much worse could the 3-4 be?
Also, if he is HONESTLY evaluating EVERYTHING…McClain will be on the bench against Atlant. There is no way to justify what the pos is doing out there.
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if Allen is insistent on this scheme – no doubt in my mind Palmer is gone, McFadden and you’ll be seeing Geno Smith in Silver and Black next year with T.J. Yates as the backup.
he simply will have to move on from Kelly, Huff, Seymour, and it looks as if awarding guaranteed 6 mil to Branch next year might’ve been a mistake, as well.
we’ll see how it plays out – trade deadline is looming in a month or so
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
#939. Lmao! It’s not relevant to my argument (don’t blame a man for the current failures that has no control over the current team), but it’s relevant to your (blame the man that passed away before the end of last year for this year’s failures). Rofl!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Cork and Jerry showed you the numbers. Davis never presided over a defense so bad as this.
But, yep, Al’s to blame. Lol
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Who is responsible for the Raiders having to do a massive salary dump to get under the cap? Who is responsible for over half of the roster? Who is responsible for the lack of draft picks? Who is responsible for decades of losing before this?
But yes, if only Al were alive (he’s not), he’d turn this all around. I wonder who he’d pick to be Hue’s defensive coordinator.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
#939. Lmao! It’s not relevant to my argument (don’t blame a man for the current failures that has no control over the current team), but it’s relevant to your (blame the man that passed away before the end of last year for this year’s failures). Rofl!
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Cause and effect my friend. If you don’t want to live in reality I can’t help you.
The new regime is ripping off a whole stack of Band-aids. It’s going to hurt in the short-term. But it needs to be done if the Raiders are going to heal.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
worse defense ever…..ever….ever…
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
What do you think of Buckeyes DT Johnathan Hankins, and should we target him in the draft?
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Also, if we’re going to play the “what if Al was alive” game, the Carson Palmer trace wouldn’t have happened. Hue would have had to roll with Boller or Pryor. The Raiders don’t even sniff 8-8 after the Campbell injury. Do you think Hue keeps his job? How many yes men are even left in the league for Al to hire?
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
YA – I’m not saying the man was perfect and blameless. Far from it towards the end there. But let’s not blame a guy who isn’t here to deal with this himself. Focus on who’s here and move on.
Again, your argument is having to do a salary dump. Those guys we dumped were the difference? Hard to believe my man.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
What do you think of Buckeyes DT Johnathan Hankins, and should we target him in the draft?
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Haven’t seen him play much, but from what I have seen I think there are quite a few pass rushers in this draft who are better prospects than Hankins. Would rather have the Raiders see if Jesse Williams falls to the 3rd, or even try to acquire a 2nd round pick.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Who knows if Carson trade would have happened or not. Hue says he and Davis discussed it so he was interested and who knows if he’d have jumped once Jason went down. Unless you’re saying Hue lied about that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Btw, we never had cap issues with AL.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:29 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
YA – I’m not saying the man was perfect and blameless. Far from it towards the end there. But let’s not blame a guy who isn’t here to deal with this himself. Focus on who’s here and move on.
Again, your argument is having to do a salary dump. Those guys we dumped were the difference? Hard to believe my man.
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Not that they were lights-out players, but the Raiders had to dump them AND were still so handcuffed by the salary cap that they didn’t have room to make the improvements they needed to. The defense had holes before the salary dump, then they lose their most established CB and their only pass rusher. Too many holes to overcome in one season when the previous regime traded away the first three picks in the draft, and left the new regime no room to make moves in free agency.
The argument I keep hearing is that “money never stopped Al from getting the players he wants”. Well not only did the players that Al wanted not pan out in recent years, but the last time the Raiders had sustained success was before the era of free agency. Not only that, but all the short-sighted “win now” moves are detrimental to long-term success.
Again – McKenzie and Allen are ripping off Band-aids here. Short term pain, but it’s going to help in the long run.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Btw, we never had cap issues with AL.
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And the Raiders have never had sustained success since the era of free agency began. Funny, that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
And for those conflating my blaming Al and the current state of the roster with the current coaching staff blaming Al and the current state of the roster:
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
RT @VicTafur: “When you begin to blame others, you give up the power to change,” coach Dennis Allen said.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
Will be back in an hour. Time to go to work.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
941.The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Cork and Jerry showed you the numbers. Davis never presided over a defense so bad as this.
But, yep, Al’s to blame. Lol
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53 men on this roster, 35 directly drafted by Al, 12-15 of them are here as a result of Al’s ineffective management style ie poor draft picks not panning out, and over-paying mediocre players.
Would stan routt turn us into a playoff contender? No, is he better than Pat Lee? Absolutely… poor management meant we couldnt carry his contract
Would Kam Wimbley turn us into a playoff contender? No, but we are missing his pass rush.
We had to eat a HUGE chunk of cash in just those 2 guys alone. All these bottom of the barrel crap players that reggie brought in are what we HAD to do. Reggie is NOT going to mortgage our future with the out of whack contracts that Al has thrown around for years, no GM would have.
Anyone with realistic expectations of the season had to realize that we were going to take a step back this year. No money, and no draft picks because of Al and Hue meant we had to fill out the roster with lower tier players. This is not mismanagement by Reggie and DA, this is biting the bullet for the future.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
Johnathan Hankins is a NT who is atletic enough to play multiple positions on the DL, but he does need to improve his pass rushing skills. Reminds me of Wilfork (not as athletic as Ngata).
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
953.Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Btw, we never had cap issues with AL.
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Thats bs. We ALWAYS had cap problems with AL. Every single year we were at the top of the list of teams over the cap. Al had to restructure contracts and mortgage out the future every year. Why can’t you see that that is what put us in this jam in the first place? Don’t you understand the negative effects that these moves had?
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Remember last year when we were 7 – 4 and then we lost 4 of our last 5 games. The current suckage goes back to Hue Jackson’s reign, Hue lovers. What blocking system were we running then? We scored less than 20 pts per game during that time. Remember how pathetic our defense looked? Remember how Hue’s team gave the playoff spot to the Broncos despite the fact that they lost their last 3 games? If you want to tug Hue’s Jackson, go be a Bengals fan. It takes more than 4 games to fix that putrid laughingstock of a team that he coached into oblivion down the stretch.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:43 am
But we had a great punter. Dumbphucks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
valleyflyin Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
While our personel has a lot of issues, there is no way that we get our asses kicked like that with a capable coach. We should have won the SD game with proper preperation. We should not have got our asses kicked by Miami or Denver. The coaching is just horrible.
Allen had an unimpressive resume coming here and now he is in way over his head. Tarver is crap and Knapp is probaly the worst coach I have ever seen at any level.
It’s comments like this that make me wonder how much much anyone on here knows about Pro football. Allen had a very good resume coming here but not as a head coach. He has to start his HC job some place. Why not with us? To shout out that Tarver is crap is childish. As for Knapp he’s a good coach but I am not sure he’s a fit for us but it’s early days. If we continue to play poorly on offense then he will be gone at the end of the season but in the meantime let’s get behind the team and the organisation.
Go Raiders!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Made it about half way thru this post before i had to stop because the smell of manure was too strong!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
the new* regime
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*The New Reggiem
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:47 am
We can blame all for a lot of things but his players minus palmer had a pretty damn good offense last year dmac stud last year until hurt , for stud until hurt , dmoore hidden treasure, also not to blame for this offense … Niether is cap room, thats on thiscoaching staff
Defense has all to blame for sure but damn they wouldnt be this bad I dont think but whole knows when all was alive I used to get just as pissed at this defense
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:47 am
JFB,
Agreed with you, however don’t we think if Hue had Dmac, we would have made the playoffs last year or if Hue had a better Defense this year, we would be better than where we are today?
I know it’s a moot point, but you have to think if Hue or his offense stayed in place, we would be better.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
the three stooges are embarresing…
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:54 am
“If” is for people who cant recall what really happened. It is completely irrelevant what “could have happened”. The reality is what did happen and Hue Jackson, the great offensive guru, pizzed away a golden opportunity and was rightfully fired for it. Hue sucks and every GM in the NFL agrees with that or he wouldn’t be coaching defensive backs in Cincinatti. He is tha laughingstock of the NFL.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
953.Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Btw, we never had cap issues with AL.
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Thats bs. We ALWAYS had cap problems with AL. Every single year we were at the top of the list of teams over the cap. Al had to restructure contracts and mortgage out the future every year. Why can’t you see that that is what put us in this jam in the first place? Don’t you understand the negative effects that these moves had?
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Most people agree that AL was a gambler, and we understand the negative effects of his actions, but it worked a few times, and it made things interesting.
J Walker and G Wilson: not in the league
R Moss and D Hall: PB players who helped their new teams.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
He needed a GM, remember Al died.
Last I checked, a Hue Jackson run offense was the best Offense we have seen since Gruden. That can not be disputed.
Hues offense went 9-3 in the Divison.
At the bare minimum we should have kept the offense the same, Reggie and DA made a big mistake changing that side of the ball, period.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Raider O Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Btw, we never had cap issues with AL.
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Sure we did. He just kept pushing it off and off, signing players to backloaded contracts with huge long-term financial commitments.
Your attitude reminds me of those Russians they interviewed a few years after the Soviet Union fell who said “We never had any crime problems or corruption when Brezhnev was running things!”
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Hue doent suck or we wouldnt have been in a position to get in the playoffs or had a good not great offense BUT he’s gone so OH well
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
He was fired because Regie wanted “his” guy which is normal for a new GM.
Hues gone, ok, why didn’t we keep the same offensive scheme and play book?
That was an ego move on Reggie’s part, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Remember we we re 1 drive out of the playoffs last year 1
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:01 am
Dude, we were one drive out of the playoffs last year in game 12 and failed to seal the deal. seriously?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
R8derdiehard Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Hue doent suck or we wouldnt have been in a position to get in the playoffs or had a good not great offense BUT he’s gone so OH well
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Then why did no other team hire him as a head coach or even offensive coordinator?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
I was at the game yesterday, I’ve been to the last 7 games in Dnever, 4 of them wins, the fact that we can no longer run the ball is a direct result of the mistake that DA made when he hired Knapp.
That is my issue with this regime, period!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Here is my point:
We could have kept Hue’s scheme, and a least been better off than we are now. The defensive issues are a result of Al’s crappy drafts and his scheme’s.
DA was supposed to fix some of that, let’s also be a little critical of Tarver and DA’s ability to create some pass rush. Did anyone think we would be worse on defense than last year?
Not me…
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Honestly his finaly press confrence probably cost him alot but I for one liked it he showed passion for his job and our team he sounded like a pissed off fan up there ranting a raving but it probably screwed him at a chance somewher else and definatley screwed him here’s
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
– The official stat book from Sunday’s game against the Broncos credited the Raiders with no hits on quarterback Peyton Manning.
The Raiders review of the video from the game showed their defenders actually hit Manning nine times.
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I saw Manning go down hard one time during that entire game. One time. Bumping shoulders with him as he runs down the field to congratulate his teammate on scoring a TD doesn’t count as a hit on the QB fellas!
There was little to no pressure on Manning the entire game. He ate us alive.
No punts? NO PUNTS! The only way we stopped them is when they shot themselves in the foot on the fake FG and the fumble!
Atrocious!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Agreed, everyone that says, “why didn’t he get a OC or HC job” is an idiot.
Ever since we Hired him, our team got better, that is a Fact!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Firing Hue Jackson was not the problem. The problem was hiring that fk stick Greg Knapp as OC and then having to cut guys because their contracts were ridiculous!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Firing Hue Jackson was not the problem. The problem was hiring that fk stick Greg Knapp as OC and then having to cut guys because their contracts were ridiculous!
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Great post!! Totally agree!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
And for those conflating my blaming Al and the current state of the roster with the current coaching staff blaming Al and the current state of the roster:
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
RT @VicTafur: “When you begin to blame others, you give up the power to change,” coach Dennis Allen said.
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“They’ve got Peyton, a HOF, and we’ve got who we’ve got”
-Dennis Allen-
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
In the wake of the slaughters this summer at a Colorado movie theater and a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, we set out to track mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years. We identified and analyzed 61 of them, and one striking pattern in the data is this: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun. Moreover, we found that the rate of mass shootings has increased in recent years—at a time when America has been flooded with millions of additional firearms and a barrage of new laws has made it easier than ever to carry them in public. And in recent rampages in which armed civilians attempted to intervene, they not only failed to stop the shooter but also were gravely wounded or killed.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Right now it seams as if everything is a problem … No punts last week is unacceptable
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
“No punts? NO PUNTS! The only way we stopped them is when they shot themselves in the foot on the fake FG and the fumble!
Atrocious!”
Just like the last San Diego game last year not once could we stop them and it cost us a playoff spot.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
Yo fools, you can blame and blame and blame, ranting until you are blue in the face. The fact is the entire club sucks.
Thanks AD (BIH)
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
I am not worried about the defense…..as soon as Slowlando McLazy’s vag1na heals up we will be a top five defense!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
We knew this team sucked donkey kielbasa from the time they took the field in the pre-season. As a fan I wanted to be optimistic, as I always am at the beginning of the season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
America has long been heavily armed relative to other societies, and our arsenal keeps growing. A precise count isn’t possible because most guns in the United States aren’t registered and the government has scant ability to track them, thanks to a legislative landscape shaped by powerful pro-gun groups such as the National Rifle Association. But through a combination of national surveys and manufacturing and sales data, we know that the increase in firearms has far outpaced population growth. In 1995 there were an estimated 200 million guns in private hands. Today, there are around 300 million—about a 50 percent jump. The US population, now over 314 million, grew by about 20 percent in that period. At this rate, there will be a gun for every man, woman, and child before the decade ends.
There is no evidence indicating that arming Americans further will help prevent mass shootings or reduce the carnage, says Dr. Stephen Hargarten, a leading expert on emergency medicine and gun violence at the Medical College of Wisconsin. To the contrary, there appears to be a relationship between the proliferation of firearms and a rise in mass shootings: By our count, there have been two per year on average since 1982. Yet 24 of the 61 cases we examined have occurred since 2006. This year alone there have already been six mass shootings—and a record number of casualties, with 110 people injured and killed.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
“They’ve got Peyton, a HOF, and we’ve got who we’ve got”
-Dennis Allen-
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Did DA really say this?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
It’s funny. Michael Vick throws 4 interceptons in a game, yet leads the game-winning drive in the 4th qtr and there are articles demanding his benching and a move to rookie Nick Foles. Tony Romo throws 5 picks (two pick-sixes) in an ugly LOSS at home on national TV and all I hear about is the huge contract extension he’s going to sign after the season. Amazing.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
Among the more striking measures: Eight states now allow firearms in bars. Law-abiding Missourians can carry a gun while intoxicated and even fire it if “acting in self-defense.” In Kansas, permit holders can carry concealed weapons inside K-12 schools, and Louisiana allows them in houses of worship. Virginia not only repealed a law requiring handgun vendors to submit sales records, but the state also ordered the destruction of all such previous records. More than two-thirds of these laws were passed by Republican-controlled statehouses,
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
Koolkell,
I think we should make gun ownership illegal. That will stop all this violence. I mean, we have made drugs illegal and that put a stop to drug use in the United States hasn’t it?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:25 am
I have no doubt Allen, Reggie, et al will take an in depth look at everything but I really wonder what they can do at this point.
Replacing Knapp just isn’t an option at this point. If this keeps up, he’s gone at the end of the season for sure, but he’s going to get 16 games, like it or not. Might as well deal with it.
Seriously, if anyone has an idea as to what steps the Raiders can take to improve coming out of the bye week, I’m all ears. The best I can come up with is improved use of available personnel.
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With all due respect, I really don’t get this line of reasoning or type of thinking.
WHY is replacing Krapp at this point NOT an option ?
It most definitely IS an option.
WHY are people resigned to keeping Krapp around for the entire season, only to fire him afterwards ?
Is it due to an erroneous belief that it’s incomprehensible or so incredibly difficult to switch OC’s during a season ?
I’m hearing stuff lately from posters that I like and respect that has me shaking my head in disbelief.
My man JFB has now come around to saying that Knapp sucks – but adds that he will support him bcz he’s the Raid OC. C’mon man, you’re better than that. That’s like saying JaMoron is our QB so I support him.
Look, it’s fine to root for these guys and want them to do well, but if you really think they suck and that we can do better – then you call for their removal and accept that it’s time to move on.
S&BPA apparently doesn’t have much confidence in Krapp and asks what we can do to improve coming out of the bye. The answer is right in front of you, but you choose to dismiss it out of hand.
If you agree Krapp’s playcalling is lousy and he isn’t effectively using our personnel, get someone in there that might do better.
No, a switch to Saunders does NOT guarantee success. But it’s not an impossibility and wouldn’t be anywhere near as difficult a transition as people seem to think it would be.
If you’re resigned to sticking with Krapp and suffering through his offense for the remainder of 2012, only to wind up firing him after a wasted year, then that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
If you believe that Krapp will turn things around – that all that’s needed is patience – that he will become a better playcaller and use the personnel more effectively – and if you’re comfortable having him return as OC in 2013 – then by all means you should endorse retaining him for the remainder of 2012.
But if you don’t believe that Krapp is going to get the job done or that Krapp is someone you want to move forward with, for God’s sake man, DO NOT ACCEPT that replacing him isn’t an option.
We can do better than Krapp.
We’ve got to do better than Krapp.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
979.303Raider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Here is my point:
We could have kept Hue’s scheme, and a least been better off than we are now. The defensive issues are a result of Al’s crappy drafts and his scheme’s.
DA was supposed to fix some of that, let’s also be a little critical of Tarver and DA’s ability to create some pass rush. Did anyone think we would be worse on defense than last year?
Not me…
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Our defense is only worse than last year because both of our starting qbs are out. What did you think Peyton manning would do to Pat lee and Michael Huff? Struggle? Come on man. You are kidding yourself. For the record, Phil Rivers did NOT have a great day on us. He only threw for 220 yards. Our defensive issues have been magnified greatly by the losses of Bartell and Spencer. Hanson, Lee… these guys are supposed to provide depth at corner. Not be starting.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
“They’ve got Peyton, a HOF, and we’ve got who we’ve got”
-Dennis Allen-
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Did DA really say this?
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Fast forward to 1:44 of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSVXlSKxmU&feature=g-all-u
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
breaking news…. hue jackson dies from massive heart attack family and friends say the attack was brought on by hue’s non-stop uncontrollable laughter over the last four weeks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
Really NATION! The problem is the full staff to the GM problem!theres some problems on the D side personel wise, Reggie aint trying to address it! Why? Lito Sheppard and Chris Johnson look like pro bowlers to what we have!people saying trade DMC??? Our best player! For what??? REALLY??
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Watching the game from a bird’s eye view at the stadium, it appeared that on almost every pass play there were two players WIDE OPEN. Manning didn’t make all awesome throws…..he was throwing to guys who were literally wide open….especially underneath.
And why can they run WR screens so well, and our screens look like dog schyyyyyt? It is like they understand which plays work against the defense they are facing, and our OC is just calling plays and hoping they work.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:32 am
theres some problems on the D side personel wise, Reggie aint trying to address it
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Address it with WHO? What starting calibur CB’s do you think are available?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Just win baby
Nice posts!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
I would take Chris Toast Johnson and Litto over the guys we put on the field last week….in a heartbeat!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
what is the main difference between our 4-2 start last year and 1-3 this year?
we swapped hu jack for d.a/knapp, palmer for jc,
was last years 4-2 team far superior to this even though we have largely the same roster?
dont tell me about the defense they sucked just as bad last year, but we still won.
an honest response would be nice
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
cj and sheppard!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
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I agree that Krapp has to go, sooner the better. I don’t understand why continuity of a bad plan is so important. Some people are saying it would look bad on the org. or that we can’t get good candidates going forward if we did that. But why sit and watch this debacle for 12 more games until we finally admit it is a disaster and it’s not going to get better anytime soon. Why not rip the bandaid off and expose the scab already? Season outcome won’t change a bit either way.
The only animals that walk into the slaughter pit are dumb animals like cows. Going along with Krapp as the OC for an entire season is just prolonged torture. Does it prove a point to abide it like a cow going to slaughter? I’m ready for any alternative as it at least gives a glimmer of hope. Krapp time offense is going nowhere fast and in no hurry to get there.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
I would take Chris Toast Johnson and Litto over the guys we put on the field last week….in a heartbeat!
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or chimdi and dvd, so why not sign em?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Watching the game from a bird’s eye view at the stadium, it appeared that on almost every pass play there were two players WIDE OPEN. Manning didn’t make all awesome throws…..he was throwing to guys who were literally wide open….especially underneath.
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Because Huff is a TERRIBLE CB. We knew that last year when he played spot duty at nickle and got burnt regularly, and we all laughed at Hue at the end of the year when he said he was making Huff a CB this year.
Pat Lee was signed to play special teams, or in dime situations covering 5th WRs… not starting NFL calibur corner.
Hanson has been a career slot nickle corner, obviously on the decline or the Eagles wouldn’t have cut him, he is mediocre at best.
We literally have no other CBs suiting for games right now. We are asking LB’s and back up safeties to cover people.
Our utter lack of pass rush means QB’s have all day to survey the field. Everyone knows, that the longer the play runs the advantage slides drastically in favor of the receiver.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Firing Knapp already would look bad….quietly allowing Saunders to take over playcalling would be the right move.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
2 more games A’s!
Let’s get it!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Where’s CJ at?
Bring em back
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
More broadly, attempts by armed civilians to stop shooting rampages are rare—and successful ones even rarer. There were two school shootings in the late 1990s, in Mississippi and Pennsylvania, in which bystanders with guns ultimately subdued the teen perpetrators, but in both cases it was after the shooting had subsided. Other cases led to tragic results. In 2005, as a rampage unfolded inside a shopping mall in Tacoma, Washington, a civilian named Brendan McKown confronted the assailant with a licensed handgun he was carrying. The assailant pumped several bullets into McKown and wounded six people before eventually surrendering to police after a hostage standoff. (A comatose McKown eventually recovered after weeks in the hospital.) In Tyler, Texas, that same year, a civilian named Mark Wilson fired his licensed handgun at a man on a rampage at the county courthouse. Wilson—who was a firearms instructor—was shot dead by the body-armored assailant, who wielded an AK-47. (None of these cases were included in our mass shootings data set because fewer than four victims died in each.)
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:48 am
what do the experst think of the silver and black and mr. instant upgrade? take a look. i think he is right on point.
“Carson Palmer is not a franchise quarterback.
Period. End of story.
That maxim was true for most of his time in Cincinnati and it was painfully true when he bailed on his team and retired, only to be brought back with a foolish trade by the Raiders former decision makers.
The Raiders may have given up a lot for Palmer, but that shouldn’t stop Reggie McKenzie from moving on from him as quickly as possible. He couldn’t do it without a first-round pick in 2012, but the Raiders, at 1-3, could easily have a top pick (maybe the top pick) in 2013.
This team needs improvement at every position other than starting running back and the kicking specialists, but no move will put the Raiders back on the path to greatness than a quick hook and another retirement for Palmer.
The Raiders, more than any other team, need to be looking at a starting quarterback in the first round of the 2013 draft.”- Micheal schottey
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Tom Cable took a bag of trash (Oline/RB)and had us in the top ten overnight. It took him longer (almost two years) to get us to 500 but he did and Hue did a great job as well when he fixed the passing/WR game in Toms final year.
Things were running real smooth untill Al passed and the team faded along with Hues chances of staying on as head coach
Thats what they call history.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Wow, who pushed KK over the edge today…you should be banned!
Not you KK, you can’t help yourself. Other people should know better. Shame on you white people!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Im taking the Mystic approach…
Let’s get rid of that bum SeaBass and save us some $$$$$.
Bring back Caromona.
Viva la raza!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
1006.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
what is the main difference between our 4-2 start last year and 1-3 this year?
we swapped hu jack for d.a/knapp, palmer for jc,
was last years 4-2 team far superior to this even though we have largely the same roster?
dont tell me about the defense they sucked just as bad last year, but we still won.
an honest response would be nice
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Honest response.
Week 1 loss – We allowed 1 offensive TD, our defense played an outstanding game considering the circumstances it was put in. Close game that was largely decided by special teams.
Week 2 loss – looked exactly the same as the loss to Miami last year.
Week 4 loss – you are kidding yourself if you think you have a chance to beat peyton manning with the secondary we have. Peyton has routinely picked apart MUCH better secondaries than that.
We all know the offense isn’t working. Plain as day. I think something will be done to address that this week. BUT, the truth is, when the players execute, zone or power doesn’t matter. We scored 34 points against pittsburg with knapps offense, because the players executed.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Voting Rights Groups Get a Partial Win in Pennsylvania
The battle over Pennsylvania’s voter ID law, which a top state Republican bragged would deliver the state to Mitt Romney, is over—at least for now. The ruling that came down today in Pennsylvania court partially blocks implementation of the law until after the 2012 election
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Im taking the Mystic approach…
Let’s get rid of that bum SeaBass and save us some $$$$$.
Bring back Caromona.
Viva la raza!!!
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now your talking!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
1019.bcz24 Says:
Week 1 loss – We allowed 1 offensive TD, our defense played an outstanding game considering the circumstances it was put in. Close game that was largely decided by special teams.
Week 2 loss – looked exactly the same as the loss to Miami last year.
Week 4 loss – you are kidding yourself if you think you have a chance to beat peyton manning with the secondary we have. Peyton has routinely picked apart MUCH better secondaries than that.
We all know the offense isn’t working. Plain as day. I think something will be done to address that this week. BUT, the truth is, when the players execute, zone or power doesn’t matter. We scored 34 points against pittsburg with knapps offense, because the players executed.
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Good points. You might add that the discharge went up and down the field on the “same team” in the game played before opening game 2012
I was more embaressed by the whupping we took from cutler and the donks on monday night opening night
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
remember what saunders didwith priest holmes and trent green?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
When Tom Cable removes you from play calling duties, than you’re just not cut out for this league anymore.
This schit is on you DA!!!
Get something done quick b!tch!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Huff is terrible! Branch is Terrible! McClain gone! Seymoure retire!fire all CBs except Chimdi! Only one of McKenzies draft picks made it on the field? Coaches gone! Saunders and Tarver give another year?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Is it possible with the zbs that our guys are simply having to think too much about what they’re doing, where they’re supposed to be at, etc. etc. and not concentrating on just “playing”?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
“Carson Palmer is not a franchise quarterback.
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don’t know if he’s an elite qb, but he’s showed signs last two weeks and if you think his stats the last two weeks say otherwise, is DMAC not an elite rb even though his stats last week would say otherwise? There’s no way you can convince me that we’d have any more wins this year with Jason Campbell and in fact we would be 0 -4 as CP put on a fabulous performance v Pitt JC wouldn’t have replicated. Jury is still out on CP and the JC v CP debate because two games don’t make a season but I stongly believe you’re wrong in thinking cp is an issue up till this point in the season and i strongly believe we’d be worse off up till this point in the season with JC
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
CJ and Chimdi would be good ideas because you’re not stopping anybody’s development or implementation of a new regime. CJ would be a stopgap, and chimdi would get valuable experience with the new scheme. Huff should not be playing corner and pat lee and hanson shouldn’t be playing ahead of chimdi or CJ
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
1025.RaiderDanny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Huff is terrible! Branch is Terrible! McClain gone! Seymoure retire!fire all CBs except Chimdi! Only one of McKenzies draft picks made it on the field? Coaches gone! Saunders and Tarver give another year?
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1 of his 5 picks made the field, 20%. What about the undrafted rookie in Streater, does he get credit there? Criner would have seen some action if not for injury, which would jump him up to 40%. Show me how many GMs in the NFL have a higher success rate of draft picks LATER than 96 getting on the field. These guys are supposed to be depth players. You shouldn’t be complaining about that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Wiz was a beast at G last year.
Played well at C 2.
Haven’t looked at any films again, but he seems to be struggling in this zone blocking system.
Sure he’s missed plenty of reps, but Wiz is more than capable of catching up.
We need to include some power blocking plays for DMAC.
If we can’t get him going we’re fked!
Period!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
1011.Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Firing Knapp already would look bad….quietly allowing Saunders to take over playcalling would be the right move.
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I say do whatever is necessary to win games. if it means firing Knapp(not saying that is the right move or not) then so be it.
If u win…everything looks good no matter what you do. That’s just the way it is. WINNING covers over EVERYTHING. It’s the only thing the media, fans etc. care about.
You fire Knapp and start WINNING?….it looks like the org. made a decisive decision that helped the team.
Now if you fire him and we still suck? A different story then we look like a desperate, knee jerk operation that can’t get anything right.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Woulda! Coulda! Shoulda! Burris only guy Reggie picked playing!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Firing Knapp already would look bad….quietly allowing Saunders to take over playcalling would be the right move.
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Look bad ? To who ?
Would look pretty good to me.
Would look like there’s a willingness to admit a mistake and take corrective action.
Would look like there’s some accountability and a desire to get better.
Please don’t tell me you’re going to buy into the ‘firing Krapp now will turn off future potential hires or applicants’ nonsense.
Trust me, there will be no shortage of eager, qualified applicants that will line up for the job when Krapp is kicked to the curb.
Professionals understand that people get fired. They realize their jobs are always on the line and that if they don’t do well – they get fired.
You think that other professionals can’t see that Krapp is failing ?
They’re going to say ‘Man, Krapp got a raw deal in Oakland. I’d never work there’ ?
Balderdash.
These lame excuses and rationalizations to keep a loser like Krapp around is precisely what this organization should avoid.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Your coaches teach players how they want them to play football. The GM picks players who can play football! THIS TEAM CAN NOT PLAY FOOTBALL!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
1024.DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
When Tom Cable removes you from play calling duties, than you’re just not cut out for this league anymore.
This schit is on you DA!!!
Get something done quick b!tch!
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Oh Dayum….That’s right huh? I forgot about that. At least old Cable had some Nards….He started running fakes, and trickeration, Going for it on 4th down and whatnot.
Kinda funny…..A heafty O-Line man that was in WAAAYYY over his head, was calling a better more aggressive game.
Like a Janitor getting promoted to Interim Principal, then firing the DEAN. “Sorry Dean, you SUK Dawg”
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
ITS OVER! GET OVER IT!