Grading the Raiders from Sunday’s loss to Broncos
By Steve Corkran
Monday, October 1st, 2012 at 12:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how the Raiders graded out in Sunday’s 37-6 loss to the Denver Broncos, according to beat writer Jerry McDonald:
Pass offense
Carson Palmer (19 of 34, 204 yards) did some good things early on but found himself increasingly under pressure as the Broncos expanded their lead and couldn’t convert in the red zone. Threw his best deep ball of the season — a 37-yard sideline strike to Denarius Moore and a couple of nice screens. Grade: C-plus
Rush offense
Darren McFadden gained 15 yards on his first three carries, a promising start that went nowhere. He finished with 34 yards on 13 carries. The longest gain went to Mike Goodson on a 13-yard run. The Raiders needed to run to keep Denver’ s pass rush at bay and failed. Grade: F
Pass defense
Target practice, fish in a barrel, pitch-and-catch, use any descriptive clichés you want and that’s what Peyton Manning did to the Raiders defense. He completed 30 of 38 passes to eight different receivers for 338 yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions, had zero pressure. It all looked so easy. Grade: F
Run defense
Denver’s no-huddle offense set a tempo the Raiders simply couldn’t match, and it showed up in the Broncos running game, which got progressively better as the game went on. Willis McGahee gained 119 yards on 19 carries and Ronnie Hillman, who had just eight yards on three touches coming in, had 31 yards on 10 attempts. Grade: D-minus
Special teams
A deflected punt by David Bruton, who got far enough inside Brandon Myers and made a perfectly timed leap, led to a short field Denver touchdown. Taiwan Jones had two nice stops on punt returns of Jim Leonhard but later got a face mask penalty. Punt returns? That would mean the Broncos actually punted. They didn’t. Grade C-minus
Coaching
The Raiders had all the reason in the world to come out in the second half ready to play, trailing just 10-6 when it could have been 20-3 and unraveled. Three-and-outs followed by Denver touchdowns. Sorry, but can’t agree with Dennis Allen’s “compete until the end” stance with Carson Palmer. He needed the hook for his health. Grade: F
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October 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
#1
October 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Primero!
October 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
“RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RockyMountainRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Watching highlights of 49ers game, why cant we do with Pryor what they did with Colin Kaepernick?
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A very good question.”
Because we are still learning a crappy offense why do something cool unique and productive
October 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
1 NATION
October 1st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
In 16 games since Al Davis’ death #Raiders allowed 445 points and 6,208 yards _ more than they ever did in a season when he was alive
October 1st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
TheBay2LA Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:36 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am
We have far too many areas of concern for drafting a QB. Simple as that. No QB in the nation should be drafted. Each year a “franchise” QB comes along. I’m cool with waiting for teddy bridgwater if you want the brother, or Sean Mannion if you want the white guy. Or which ever “franchise” qb comes along between here and then. Top 3 pick should be used to acquire more picks, or snag the unquestioned best Pass Rusher or Shutdown corner.
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Can’t draft for need. Have to take the best player available.
If you draft for need and the pick busts? Not only did you not fill that need, but you didn’t get a player who can be a long-term asset for your team.
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I get it bro, you have a man crush on the numbers and Geno. But winning teams do in fact draft for need. Teams that pick in the top 3 often aren’t the better for it, and end up right back in the top 5. Regardless, given our fortunes with top 5 picks, do you really even want to risk it on a Big 12 QB? I admit it’s early so I’m not sold on him, we’ll see how he does against Texas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, TCU, then I’ll have a better idea but even then, still NO QB! Trade down, select players, and ideally acquire starters via free agency.
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Nothing about the numbers, although those numbers are exactly what you’d expect a top prospect to put up against lesser competition. It has everything to do with his short and intermediate accuracy, his solid footwork and mobility inside the pocket, his ability and willingness to take hits in order to deliver the ball, and his ability to fit the ball into tight windows. Those are the things that have, thus far, made Geno Smith the best player in college football. Of course the evaluation process isn’t over – teams will want to see what he can do against top defenses – but if he keeps performing the way he has been, then he’ll very possibly be the first player picked in the draft, and certainly won’t fall out of the top 3.
What do you mean “our fortunes with Top 5 picks”? It’s a completely new regime. The Raiders’ draft history has nothing to do with it. It’s a shame that many Raiders fans have been conditioned to fear the draft, because that’s how you improve your team, and set them up for long-term success. This isn’t the NBA – you can’t just go out and buy a bunch of big-name players in free agency and just expect to win. If that was the case the Eagles would have gone the distance last season, and the Buccaneers would be dominating this season.
Teams DO draft for need – but mostly you see that out of teams who are perennial basement-dwellers. When the Giants picked Pierre-Paul, did they need a DE? Nope. They had Tuck and Osi. But they took the best player on the board, and it paid off. That’s how good teams stay good – by filling their roster with good players, not by saying “we need X, so we’re drafting X no matter what”. They only time it makes sense to draft for need is when your team has virtually every other position set for years. Few teams ever find themselves in that position, and the Raiders are certainly not in that position.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I got 5 on it!
October 1st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I dont want the head coach of my team laughing it up with the opposing head coach who just stomped your face in. DA is not a Raider. Hes not going to save this organization. He will not have a winning season here, and very well may not make past this season. He just doesnt have it. Its bad enough he chose Knapp as his OC, and he will have to sink with that decision. But as a lifelong Raiders fan, and understanding the significance of AFC West Rivals, I can honestly say through all the years of losing, I have never been as sickened by any of our head coach’s actions as I was by DA’s display with Fox yesterday. DA gets zero support from me, here on out. I’ll watch the games to see some football, and support players that I have been following, but this staff is beyond WEAK. Top to bottom.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Bring back Al as our defensive coord!!!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Give them hell Cork!
October 1st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I got 5 on it!
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You’re money is no good here… i got you.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I want to grade Jerry’s grading.
*Head explodes*
October 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
What better way to honor Al Davis than to stick with a scheme that your players dont fit and isnt working… Kudos Greg Knapp, kudos.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Why do I always come here the day after games when I know it’s just going to be Hyperbole City up in here?
Sports fans are scary stupid sometimes.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I dont want the head coach of my team laughing it up with the opposing head coach who just stomped your face in.
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On the record I am non violent however, DA should of had the look, and been ready to punch fox in the face.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
OK
Who saw the game again?
Who was the weakest link on the O-line? (everyone?)
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
There has to be more power calls on the line for the time being.
Quit shoving the square into the circle Greg.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dumb
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
OK
Who saw the game again?
Who was the weakest link on the O-line? (everyone?)
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Terelle Pryor…lol
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Code “Knapptastic”!!
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
This team is garbage. I did not expect to watch them win, but the least I expected was that they would be competitive! That was a complete fking joke!
Dennis Allen is a joke. Knapp is a joke. Our oline is a joke. Our entire fking defense is a joke, along with the dc.
I hope reggie’s plan was to throw the season for high draft picks, otherwise he is a joke as well.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Its nap time to get it. we allready went in on mcclain.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
What better way to honor Al Davis than to stick with a scheme that your players dont fit and isnt working… Kudos Greg Knapp, kudos.
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LOL.
For real, though, he’s gotta start working in some quicker hitting plays for the sake of the OL. Carlisle, Wisniewski and Brisiel are having a hard time getting to the second level. And both tackles were struggling with Von Miller yesterday. He was shedding blocks all over the place.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
OK
Who saw the game again?
Who was the weakest link on the O-line? (everyone?)
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Terelle Pryor…lol
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On a positive note…….
Taiwan Jones is a great special teamer
lol
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Fire knapp and hoffman….
October 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
This team is garbage. I did not expect to watch them win, but the least I expected was that they would be competitive! That was a complete fking joke!
Dennis Allen is a joke. Knapp is a joke. Our oline is a joke. Our entire fking defense is a joke, along with the dc.
I hope reggie’s plan was to throw the season for high draft picks, otherwise he is a joke as well.
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Was waiting for this birds eye view…that bad eh?
October 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
In 16 games since Al Davis’ death #Raiders allowed 445 points and 6,208 yards _ more than they ever did in a season when he was alive
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I knew this was true just based on the eye test. We Look weak and soft. Everyone has been beggiing and pining for his death so we can join the rest of the league and play a ‘modern defense’ well how’s modern feel so far??
October 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
On a positive note…….
Taiwan Jones is a great special teamer
lol
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He’s the reason the Raiders don’t need Cartwright. But they could do better in terms of a #3 RB.
Still, when your #1 RB isn’t even getting anything done, I’m not sure you can expect anyone behind him on the depth chart to offer much different.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
hoffman…. where did Bones wind up? He and ASAUNDERS would have been tastic.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
“Teams DO draft for need – but mostly you see that out of teams who are perennial basement-dwellers. When the Giants picked Pierre-Paul, did they need a DE? Nope. They had Tuck and Osi. But they took the best player on the board, and it paid off. That’s how good teams stay good – by filling their roster with good players, not by saying “we need X, so we’re drafting X no matter what”. They only time it makes sense to draft for need is when your team has virtually every other position set for years. Few teams ever find themselves in that position, and the Raiders are certainly not in that position.”
There is some truth to that but in reality if we were picking number 2 and the best RB to come out of college since OJ Simpson was sitting there why would we pick him with McFadden on our roster?
This does not hold true of every pick just some.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
right tackle is our weakest link on the o-line.
We had Khalif Barnes there last year and early this year, and he’s one of the worst RTs in the NFL (street free agent a few years ago).
We now have another street free agent playing RT.
Palmer got hit alot because Davis didn’t value or properly scout o-line talent.
Last Raider pro-bowl lineman? Gruden years?
October 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
He was being kind with those grades.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Fire knapp and hoffman….
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please dont, i want clowney from SC
October 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Could somebody wipe a dirty diaper under knapps car door handels? Thanks
October 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
“Everyone has been beggiing and pining for his death so we can join the rest of the league and play a ‘modern defense’ well how’s modern feel so far??”
LMFAO so true
October 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I knew this was true just based on the eye test. We Look weak and soft. Everyone has been beggiing and pining for his death so we can join the rest of the league and play a ‘modern defense’ well how’s modern feel so far??
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Straight sucs…I will say, we do need a RDE, NT, and MLB and a couple of CB’s… I hate that soft zone BS. Should be able to press man when i want.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Maybe Mark Davis will fire Reggie and make all the personal moves himself.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
1st rd pick Clowney DE SCarolina.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Maybe Mark Davis will fire Reggie and make all the personal moves himself.
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I don’t know if MDAVIS has the personnel selecting acumen.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Why didn’t DA put in TP and tell him to run like hell?? CP blew the game with his early 3rd quarter INT and subsequent TD’s by the Broncos.
Well sh.t for brains DA and that no good, big, ugly, red-haired, freckle faced, affirmative action hand me down GM need to go.
And for that matter maybe we’ll give Corky the benefit of the doubt and not run him tarred and feathered out of town, since he actually told the truth about the incapacity of the Raiders in this post.
Congratulations Cork, you are finally showing some teeth!
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Why no one is blaming our DC:
This season, the Falcons hired Dirk Koetter to be their OC.
Last year, Koetter was let go by the Jaguars because their offense was terrible for the last few years.
In Atlanta, Koetter has TALENT, has drastically improved their O, and is now considered an elite OC.
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Tp time… trade dmac before he gets hurt
October 1st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I THINK IT’S ALREADY 17-3 ATLANTA..
October 1st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Why didn’t DA put in TP and tell him to run like hell?? CP blew the game with his early 3rd quarter INT and subsequent TD’s by the Broncos.
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TP has not dressed for any of the games. He has been in active…Brilliance
October 1st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I got your guys’s boy the weekend filler “The Guru” on 95.7fm to admit he was wrong for calling for Hue Jacksons head last night when he was auditioning for that 95.7 FM Lucky Break about 6 months ago.
If that clown can admit he was wrong on the air, then you guys in here who hated Hue need to admit also!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
BURN IT ALL DOWN!!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Maybe Mark Davis will fire Reggie and make all the personal moves himself.
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I don’t know if MDAVIS has the personnel selecting acumen.
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That freakish redheaded pock-Mark’ed spawn needs to be fired himself along with his ugly mama.
No wonder AD kept him locked up in a closet. He doesn’t know his dorko from a shiny nickle in his pocket.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Do Raider “fans” really expect a defense with LEAGUE-WORSE TALENT put together by Al Davis to suddenly become solid when we had to LOSE TALENT due to wack contracts?
ummm, and you wonder why you give raider fans a bad image.
It’s called drafting and free-agency, something our GM hasn’t had a chance to do yet.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
In Atlanta, Koetter has TALENT
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On the D side of the ball, who would anyone consider a “playmaker”?
Who on our D would start for the other 31 teams in the NFL?
Who on the D is pro bowler?
Who on the D strikes fear in the heart of the OCO?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Fire knapp and hoffman….
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please dont, i want clowney from SC
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trade up to get him give up picks whatever just get that kid!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Why no one is blaming our DC:
This season, the Falcons hired Dirk Koetter to be their OC.
Last year, Koetter was let go by the Jaguars because their offense was terrible for the last few years.
In Atlanta, Koetter has TALENT, has drastically improved their O, and is now considered an elite OC..
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
And Blackandsilverside is here representing the Fred Phelps “I hate everyone who’s different from me” faction…
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Nope atlanta just scored again..
October 1st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Yesterday’s game looked like a div II team vs the broncos. Absolute embarrassment. Glad I bet on the donkeys because that game turned out like I expected once I was over my kool-aid hangover.
I see mcclame is getting torched here. Would anyone object to him being cut and Nathan Stupar brought back?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
wonder if there is a clause in reggie contract that gets him a bonus if his practice squad can defeat the raiders in practice..
October 1st, 2012 at 1:03 pm
shiny nickle
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be careful, you can get hypnotized by a shiny nickel
October 1st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Brahs, Justin Beiber is officially a major puss
Anyone see him puke on stage last night?
Now way 2 Kewl 4 Skool pulls a rookie move like that, if we gotta hurl we’re doing it on the keyboards
Then it’s like part of the stage show
All the kids in the audience will be like “mom! dad! that was the greatest special effect EVER”
Laughing all the way to the bank, holla
2K4S N FULL EFFECT
October 1st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
PLAY IS UNDER REVIEW POST-53.I THINK HIS FOOT WAS OUT..
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
rolando mcclain’s mom just said he played good yesterday
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Blow it up Reggie! Allen and his staff are clearly stop-gap coaches until the team gets some more “football players”. Useless.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
I am glad you ‘GUYS” keep it football.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
If we do end up with a top 5 pick in the draft next year you better bet we will trade down to get more picks as this team has so many holes it needs to fill one pick is not going to save us at all.
Everyone wants the next new hot College QB but we need RT DT DE LB CB and much more not just one player.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
For the life of me I cannot understand the refusal to activate and use Pryor. Pryor is easily better than Kaepernick they are both in their 2nd years. This coaching staff is crazy. Where is Taiwan Jones?? and if I was the OC Ausberry would have at least 10 catches and a couple of TD’s right now. They literally sleep on half the talent available. Sleep Oh I get it…….Knapp!! on half the talent, with him it makes sense.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Does the Steelers DC look amazing without Polamalu and Harrison? No.
Do the Ravens look amazing on D without Suggs? No.
We need talent, though I would like to see a 3-4 with more zone – a staple of most top Ds.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Thec,
TP has not dressed for any of the games. He has been in active…Brilliance
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I didn’t know that. If CP goes down what good will Lienart do?? All he knows is to get injured jack off in a dark corner. He’s worthless scrum.
C’mon DA, Reggie, make my day, idiots!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
you are a CP3 hater PERIOD he could take us to the SB and you would still hate. guess you havent noticed the crappy pass protection he has been getting and he is still making plays like that throw to Dmoore down the sideline under pressure. elite qb throw not to mention he in asystem that doesnt fit him but you carry on Mistic everyone can see your dilusional when it comes to CP3.
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Are these numbers also a delusion?
The man has a 5-9 record as the starter here , he is 2-4 in the division with 18 td’s and 18 picks ( more picks than games played).
go tell it to nfl.com bra, he has sucked since before he got here.
Those are the raw numbers that he has posted, ignore them if you like. What he has done on the field is what i base my opinion on, end of story
October 1st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Kaepernick – legit high 2nd round pick, would have been higher had he played somewhere not named Nevada.
Pryor – Reach 3rd round Davis pick despite playing at major program. 50% completions and more INTs than TDs in his games vs legit teams.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
How about that stretch play from our own goaline huh? Great fùcking call knapp!!! Wooooooo!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
For the life of me I cannot understand the refusal to activate and use Pryor. Pryor is easily better than Kaepernick they are both in their 2nd years. This coaching staff is crazy. Where is Taiwan Jones?? and if I was the OC Ausberry would have at least 10 catches and a couple of TD’s right now. They literally sleep on half the talent available. Sleep Oh I get it…….Knapp!! on half the talent, with him it makes sense.
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What up TJ? Yeah, and he just now figured out MREECE.
KNAPP does not know how to use the talent.
Not dressing TP is an indictment against the new org.
They do not have a clue in this area.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
There is some truth to that but in reality if we were picking number 2 and the best RB to come out of college since OJ Simpson was sitting there why would we pick him with McFadden on our roster?
This does not hold true of every pick just some.
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I don’t think taking an RB in the Top 25 is ever a good idea. Rarely if ever the best player on the board. Other RBs of comparable talent can be had in the 2nd round or later.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
For the life of me I cannot understand the refusal to activate and use Pryor. Pryor is easily better than Kaepernick they are both in their 2nd years. This coaching staff is crazy. Where is Taiwan Jones?? and if I was the OC Ausberry would have at least 10 catches and a couple of TD’s right now. They literally sleep on half the talent available. Sleep Oh I get it…….Knapp!! on half the talent, with him it makes sense.
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Because they are idiots. They think there is one way to do things – the stupid way.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
this says it all..
In 16 games since Al Davis’ death #Raiders allowed 445 points and 6,208 yards _ more than they ever did in a season when he was alive
October 1st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Mistic
you credit a QB for team wins and losses and division wins and losses?
So you rank Alex Smith above Brees the last two years?
And Kevin Kolb is the NFL’s top QB?
weird logic.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
This is what I hate, all the coaches say they are going to put the best players on the field, they are lying to us fans. Keeping Kelly, Seymour, SlowMo, and Huff out there is clearly not the best, when there are better players on the roster. Raiders showed no pride and DA should hand out pink slips for the players to wear in practice.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Sure put in Pryor. The season is fking over anyhow. At least putting Pryor in would shut up the delusional fans in here who think he is the answer lol.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Everyone wants the next new hot College QB but we need RT DT DE LB CB and much more not just one player.
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Again – if you’re picking high enough to get a transcendent player at the QB position, you can’t pass that player up. If your evaluation process tells you that this player is the kind of player who can carry your team, then you’re looking at a player who represents the future of your franchise – “need” be damned.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
its one thing to get rid of players but another thing to not upgrade when you replace them.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
TOTALLY! Thanks for leaving us with bad talent AND terrible contracts that made us cut the best of our terrible talent, Al!
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Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
this says it all..
In 16 games since Al Davis’ death #Raiders allowed 445 points and 6,208 yards _ more than they ever did in a season when he was alive
October 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
How bad are the stealers???
October 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Why no one is blaming our DC:
This season, the Falcons hired Dirk Koetter to be their OC.
Last year, Koetter was let go by the Jaguars because their offense was terrible for the last few years.
In Atlanta, Koetter has TALENT, has drastically improved their O, and is now considered an elite OC..
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Yes, and this year, Knapp has managed to do the opposite of Koetter. He turned a unit that performed decent to very good last year, and made them the worst in the league.
Main difference between Koetter and Knapp, is that Koetter actually HAS had success in the league. The whole staff in Jacksonville had to go last year, and blame for them being horrible was not on Koetter, based on everything I remember from last season with the Jags. What the consensus about Koetter has been is that he has been a good OC, turned Jacksonvilles Offense around when he got their a few years ago, and is often credited with grooming David Garrard for his successful years. Cant say Ive heard any of the same ever said for Knapp. Numbers dont lie, Knapp led offenses have regressed by year everywhere he has been hired as OC. Falcons fans in the know were actually excited at the prospect of Matt Ryan working with Koettner, and by the looks of things, its already paying off. I dont recall many Raiders fans excited about Knapp being hired in the offseason, and he is proving why.
Id take Koetter over Knapp ANY DAY. Their resumes and pedigrees are not even in the same arena.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
its one thing to get rid of players but another thing to not upgrade when you replace them.
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And an whole ‘nother thing to not be able to upgrade when you replace them, then have your fanbase not understand that.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Nyraider
It’s one thing to replace players and have $ to sign legit FAs.
It’s another thing to replace players and STILL be in cap hell and have to sign minimum-salary FAs.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
We need to evaluate tp and throw away the season.. we beed the top pick. And we need to know if its geno or clowney…
October 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dennis Allen is to busy sending “thank you” cards to the Broncos coaching staff to hear you complaining on this blog.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Sure put in Pryor. The season is fking over anyhow. At least putting Pryor in would shut up the delusional fans in here who think he is the answer lol.
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would you prefer Lenart or just continue watching a Qb not fit for knapps system go 14-51 on 3rd down.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Booty
I started with “why no one is complaining about our DC”
DC, not OC. Everyone knows our OC isn’t very good.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Since al…that means reggie…genius
October 1st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Lol @ 81
Good one dav.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Marks hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
We need to evaluate tp and throw away the season.. we beed the top pick. And we need to know if its geno or clowney…
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Solid, If he is not the answer at least we know.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
TOTALLY! Thanks for leaving us with bad talent AND terrible contracts that made us cut the best of our terrible talent, Al!
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Al_is_theraiders Says:
this says it all..
In 16 games since Al Davis’ death #Raiders allowed 445 points and 6,208 yards _ more than they ever did in a season when he was alive
October 1st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
# blackandsilverside Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Why didn’t DA put in TP and tell him to run like hell?? CP blew the game with his early 3rd quarter INT and subsequent TD’s by the Broncos.
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It’s gotten so bad in here that people are actually making up interceptions now!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Sure put in Pryor. The season is fking over anyhow. At least putting Pryor in would shut up the delusional fans in here who think he is the answer.
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If we put in Pryor for at least a half per game when we were being blown out, we would give him experience and be able to evaluate his talent. He is NOT the answer, nor the magic bullet and probably would do no better than CP.
That notwithstanding, there is no downside to his playing.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Do Raider “fans” really expect a defense with LEAGUE-WORSE TALENT put together by Al Davis to suddenly become solid when we had to LOSE TALENT due to wack contracts?
ummm, and you wonder why you give raider fans a bad image.
It’s called drafting and free-agency, something our GM hasn’t had a chance to do yet.
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It’s funny how Hue Jackson still got this team within one game of the playoffs last year with losing his starting QB and best RB last season and having a crap defense and DC.
McK didn’t need to start all over on offense.
Stupid…now this team will suck for two more years or more.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I would like a fking oc that has a fking clue is what I would like! All of u that defended knapp can go kick rocks!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Raiders in unofficial REBUILD mode.
McK and Allen will never admit it publicly though.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Nyraider
It’s one thing to replace players and have $ to sign legit FAs.
It’s another thing to replace players and STILL be in cap hell and have to sign minimum-salary FAs.
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i get many people give reggie a pass, but he spent money on huff and branch,bartell , spencer and a waste of an OL. According to cork last week we where 6 mil under the cap. things didnt have to be this bad, its just reggie made some bad decisions. if you want to give him a pass thats up to you. But he hasnt been impressive either. take a look at his entire body of work. he’ll get years to build it, but this blind confidence is mind blogling to me
October 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Man, that game was so bad it put me to sleep and ruined my Sunday.
I guess the players are only good for one half of football on the road.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Yeah Knapp’s play calling sucks! But the only thing I keep coming back to is it worked in Texas, why not Oakland?
What is it?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Who in there right mind would defend a TURD like Greg Knapp??
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
For the life of me I cannot understand the refusal to activate and use Pryor. Pryor is easily better than Kaepernick they are both in their 2nd years. This coaching staff is crazy. Where is Taiwan Jones?? and if I was the OC Ausberry would have at least 10 catches and a couple of TD’s right now. They literally sleep on half the talent available. Sleep Oh I get it…….Knapp!! on half the talent, with him it makes sense.
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priest,
You are right about pryor, and i for one am ready to see him get the start.
If we lose to atl there will be no reason for keeping him in street clothes.
The season is already lost, nobody makes the playoffs after 1-3 and 2 division losses, especially not this team.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
It seems strange to think of it now, in the midst of so much wreckage, but if you could time-travel back to Sunday morning, you might have had some actual optimism about the Raiders.
They were coming off a 34-31 win over the Steelers. The Broncos had taken back-to-back losses, and the newest instantaneous analysis of Peyton Manning was that he had lost the zip on his passes and might not again be the same Manning. The Raiders hadn’t lost at whatever-corporate-name is slapped on Mile High Stadium since Lane Kiffin’s brief, disastrous reign.
And the Raiders now have Dennis Allen, who was the Broncos’ defensive coordinator just a year ago. Surely, the bright young head coach would have some tricks up his sleeve for his old team.
But optimism is a short-lived commodity when it comes to the Raiders. Every step forward seems to be accompanied by several steps back.
Sunday was a big, big step back. As bad as the loss at Miami. As bad as anything offered in the past several years of mediocre football. The 37-6 loss to Denver was the Raiders’ worst loss to the Broncos since 1962. The year before Al Davis joined the team.
“It was an old-fashioned butt-whipping,” Carson Palmer said.
His coach agreed.
“They out-coached us, they outplayed us, they beat us in every phase of the game,” Allen said.
That about covers it. The Raiders are 1-3 and have appeared inept on the road. They won’t lose next weekend – they have a bye. But then they hit the road again, to play red-hot Atlanta. Good luck finding any optimism heading into that game.
The Raiders are in rebuilding mode, but that’s frustrating for fans to hear when the rebuilding just goes on and on and on. Consecutive seasons of 8-8 records should be something on which to build, not cause for another restart. Especially when so many players on the Raiders – the starting quarterback, running back, the defensive front – are supposed to be ready for winning right now.
The Raiders, almost exactly one year after Davis’ death, have no identity. They have things they haven’t had before, like a powerful general manager, a head coach with job security and a brand-new media guide full of actual information.
But they don’t have a personality or – to the naked eye – a clear direction. They’re not strange or dysfunctional, but they’re simply not very interesting, either. Not when they play as they did Sunday.
After a relatively competitive first half, the Raiders simply disappeared at halftime. The collapse – which resulted in a 21-point third quarter – was on both offense and defense. Defense is supposed to be Allen’s strength, but the Raiders look as bad on defense as they did last year. Their secondary is makeshift following the decision to shed all of last year’s starters and subsequent injuries to their replacements.
And the defensive front – theoretically the best unit on the Raiders – couldn’t touch Manning. Sure, Manning runs the no-huddle, gets rid of the ball quickly and likes the short passing game. Yes, he’s hard to sack. But this is the NFL. No pressure? Zero quarterback hits? Especially after the Broncos lost their starting center to injury?
On Sunday, Manning – who passed for 338 yards and three touchdowns – was barely bothered. He looked every bit like the Hall of Fame quarterback that Denver was promised.
“We didn’t help the cause either,” said defensive lineman Richard Seymour, who has faced Manning forever. “He did what he needed to do to win.”
Seymour insisted, “One game won’t define us.” And that’s fair. But what about two games? Both on the road, both coming with the stench of inevitability and ready-made excuses about heat and altitude?
On offense, the Raiders were equally ineffective. Darren McFadden was neutralized, once again, rushing for 34 yards on 13 carries on the same field where he had amassed 315 yards in his previous two visits. Take away his one lightning-bolt moment – his 64-yard touchdown run against Pittsburgh – and the Raiders’ most dynamic player is having a terrible season. Yet he’s healthy.
Palmer played pretty well – standing up in the face of intense pressure to complete some passes. Still, the Raiders converted only one third down – of 12 opportunities, an 8 percent rate (compared with Manning who was 10-of-16 on third down).
“Third-and-longs killed us,” Palmer said. “We’re putting our coach – coach Knapp – in a tough situation. There aren’t many good calls on 3rd-and-long.”
Funny that Palmer should bring up offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. The quarterback must realize that Raider Nation has focused its wrath on Knapp, with some legitimate reason. The offense was rolling under Hue Jackson last year but has gone backward under Knapp, with mostly the same cast of players. On Sunday, the Raiders ran some misdirection plays early that worked, but drive after drive faltered. In contrast, the Broncos didn’t punt once.
A quarter through the season, the Raiders sit tied with Kansas City at the bottom of the AFC West. There are some winnable games on the schedule, but after a performance like Sunday’s, there’s little reason for optimism.
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From ane killion .. I gotta agree been saying Raiders have Zero Idenity
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Raiders-ugly-loss-dashes-any-optimism-3907554.php#ixzz281gQ6eZA
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Since al…that means reggie…genius
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No, 4 games of that are Reggie. The other 12 are your hero Hue.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
This will be at least 3 year process.
Year 1 = Bottoms?
Year 2 = 8-8
Year 3 = get to the tournament
Whats wrong with this process????
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
QB Geno Smith or OLB/DE Jarvis Jones should be the Raiders top 5 pick next year.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Raiders in unofficial REBUILD mode.
McK and Allen will never admit it publicly though.
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Now a days, nobody uses the term ‘re-build’.
Hence the increase in ignorant fans.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
This will be at least 3 year process.
Year 1 = Bottoms?
Year 2 = 8-8
Year 3 = get to the tournament
Whats wrong with this process????
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Our culture of instant gratification…
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I have been a Raiders fan for years but the only thing that defines my relationship for this organization is that “there is a thin line between love and hate!!!!”
I think our ship is cursed for real man.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
PLAIN n FCKN SIMPLE. FORMER OLINE COACH BOB WYLIE SPEAKS ON DMAC
Wylie, who was let go after one successful season when the new regime came in, thinks that McFadden is a bad fit for the zone blocking scheme.
“I thought that Darren was a back that ran downhill and off tackle,” Wylie told SiriusXM NFL Radio. “He is so fast, he out runs the zone block. … Sometimes your better off just pitching him that ball and letting him run around the corner and around the D. He can do that.”
Under coach Hue Jackson last year, the Raiders ran a gap and power-blocking scheme and finished 7th in the NFL in rushing. They’re 31st now.
“You have to fit what (McFadden) does, not what you want to do as a coach,” Wylie said.
Wylie speaking Truth. PRobaly why WIZ senior left. Ive been saying we have no idenity since week 1 though. Seems like Palmer got some of his friends together and is playing a pickup football game on offense smh
October 1st, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
This will be at least 3 year process.
Year 1 = Bottoms?
Year 2 = 8-8
Year 3 = get to the tournament
Whats wrong with this process????
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Yeah right. Not with Knapp calling plays on offense.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:21 pm
nisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
its one thing to get rid of players but another thing to not upgrade when you replace them.
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And an whole ‘nother thing to not be able to upgrade when you replace them, then have your fanbase not understand that.
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or to have some of your fanbase lean on salary cap handcuffs as an excuse that really dont exist
October 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Someday…the Raiders will return to greatness…I just hope I’m alive to see it.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Same for those of u who have defended Slowlando mclazy, Michael huff, and branch….go kick rocks!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
We are trying to be the Green Bay Texans.
Not gonna happen in 2 years.
Suck it up and Fan up or find another team.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Those are the raw numbers that he has posted, ignore them if you like. What he has done on the field is what i base my opinion on, end of story
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you have a valid opinion i initially agree with some and you’ve convinced me of others but gotta disagree that palmers an issue here. thought he played as well as anyone could last two games. The incomplete passes came while he was getting hit altering the trajectory, had balls batted down, took his lumps and kept trying. he did throw a ball that should have been a pick, even the best do. Biggest issue so far is the oline not resembling what it did last year with similar personell. On d carter and spencer make a huge differece personell wise and if they continue to suck you have to place the blame on the hc
October 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Whats wrong with this process????
Year 2 = 8-8
October 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
The Oakland Raiders are in salary cap hell this and the next year.
DEAL WITH IT.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
i get many people give reggie a pass, but he spent money on huff and branch,bartell , spencer and a waste of an OL. According to cork last week we where 6 mil under the cap. things didnt have to be this bad, its just reggie made some bad decisions. if you want to give him a pass thats up to you. But he hasnt been impressive either. take a look at his entire body of work. he’ll get years to build it, but this blind confidence is mind blogling to me
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Restructured Huff and Branch, so they cost less. Spent the vet minimum on Bartell and Spencer (the latter of whom was playing well until he got injured).
Again – what clear upgrades at any of these positions could the Raiders have afforded in free agency? None, unless you live in a fantasy world (which it seems like most sports fans do).
It had to be exactly this bad. That’s what happens when your owner blows a decade of draft picks, then re-signs them to massive long-term contracts.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
lol, no downside to playing TP?
Score goes from 37-6 to 52-0 if Pryor is in there.
Just picturing him trying to decipher the Broncos scramble blitz is hilarious. Or how he would have handled that pressure in his own end zone. Or anything called a timing pass vs zone.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Same for those of u who have defended Slowlando mclazy, Michael huff, and branch….go kick rocks!
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You no like McCheese?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
PLAIN n FCKN SIMPLE. FORMER OLINE COACH BOB WYLIE SPEAKS ON DMAC
Wylie, who was let go after one successful season when the new regime came in, thinks that McFadden is a bad fit for the zone blocking scheme.
“I thought that Darren was a back that ran downhill and off tackle,” Wylie told SiriusXM NFL Radio. “He is so fast, he out runs the zone block. … Sometimes your better off just pitching him that ball and letting him run around the corner and around the D. He can do that.”
Under coach Hue Jackson last year, the Raiders ran a gap and power-blocking scheme and finished 7th in the NFL in rushing. They’re 31st now.
“You have to fit what (McFadden) does, not what you want to do as a coach,” Wylie said.
Wylie speaking Truth. PRobaly why WIZ senior left. Ive been saying we have no idenity since week 1 though. Seems like Palmer got some of his friends together and is playing a pickup football game on offense smh
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Yep! Wylie hit the nail on the head!
And most of us reasonable and knowledgable Raider fans and football fans in general already know this.
It’s sad that the GM McK and head coach and his lame OC Knapp do NOT know this!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
You have ZERO football IQ if you are one of the tards in here that are saying put Terrell Pryor in!
Palmer is struggling and he has 10 years experience in this league. He is struggling because of poor field position, poor O-Line play and no running game to support him and horrible play calling…..how the hell is TP6 supposed to overcome all of these issues with ZERO years of experience at QB?
Just think about it for a minute before you opine in here again about TP6 Einsteins!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Same for those of u who have defended Slowlando mclazy, Michael huff, and branch….go kick rocks!
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reggie paid huff a big bonus and spent alot of money on branch. that money could have went elsewhere
October 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
54-not at all.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
YA
6 million under the cap is basically peanuts. I mean, what do you with $6 million when few FAs want to come here as it is?
Huff and Branch are, sadly, some of our better D players.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
The Oakland Raiders are in salary cap hell this and the next year.
DEAL WITH IT.
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Your boy DA should have NEVER been hired and Hue should have NEVER been fired!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Allen: “We’ve got lot of work to do. Have to evaluate what we’re doing.” Asked if use of zone blocking was one of those things, he said yes
October 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Per Twitter: DA said at his presser that “everything” needs to be evaluated. When he was specifically asked if that included the ZBS, he said yes.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
reggie paid huff a big bonus and spent alot of money on branch. that money could have went elsewhere
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YES!! EXACTLY! Because guys like Peyton Manning and Mario Williams and Vincent Jackson were just BEGGING to come to Oakland with our $6 million in cap space!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
You have ZERO football IQ if you are one of the tards in here that are saying put Terrell Pryor in!
Palmer is struggling and he has 10 years experience in this league. He is struggling because of poor field position, poor O-Line play and no running game to support him and horrible play calling…..how the hell is TP6 supposed to overcome all of these issues with ZERO years of experience at QB?
Just think about it for a minute before you opine in here again about TP6 Einsteins!
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To be fair, I have said to put him in not in reference to ’saving our season’, but to prove he either can or cant play. The season is lost as is anyways.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
This will be at least 3 year process.
Year 1 = Bottoms?
Year 2 = 8-8
Year 3 = get to the tournament
Whats wrong with this process????
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Yeah right. Not with Knapp calling plays on offense.
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Throw this in too from Cork’s twitter post.
#Raiders finished seventh in rushing last season, second in 2010. They are 32nd (last) through four games in 2012 at 60.8-yard average.
Talk about FRUSTRATING.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
YA
6 million under the cap is basically peanuts. I mean, what do you with $6 million when few FAs want to come here as it is?
Huff and Branch are, sadly, some of our better D players.
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Yup.
Huff isn’t even very good, but he’s at least versatile and willing to help the team in any way he can. I can respect that.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
QB Geno Smith or OLB/DE Jarvis Jones should be the Raiders top 5 pick next year!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
To see DMC’s talent wasted like this is just sad to see….it really is.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
If we are rebuilding, then trade McFadden to a team with a fking clue! Trade Palmer to a team that needs a vet qb. Palmer to the jets!
Let Pryor start and hope he has one or two good games and then trade him to some foolish team.
Trade all our defensive players to anyone willing to give late round picks.
Fk this crap.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
“YoungAmerican Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Everyone wants the next new hot College QB but we need RT DT DE LB CB and much more not just one player.
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Again – if you’re picking high enough to get a transcendent player at the QB position, you can’t pass that player up. If your evaluation process tells you that this player is the kind of player who can carry your team, then you’re looking at a player who represents the future of your franchise – “need” be damned.”
Your off the mark again guy…..if we are picking in the top 5 I gaurentee we are trading down to get more picks not picking one player with this many holes to fill.
So you are going to tell me that if have the 5th pick of the draft next year and a premier LT is sitting there we take him even though we feel like we are set at that position?
Come on man that is just not logical and even you know that. Like I said earlier your theory is right sometimes but not all the time.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Just think about it for a minute before you opine in here again about TP6 Einsteins!
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My issue with TP is that, you do not even dress him?
DCO’s know this and do not have to spend even 30 secs drawing up a scheme to mitigate him?
May as well cut him.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
PLAIN n FCKN SIMPLE. FORMER OLINE COACH BOB WYLIE SPEAKS ON DMAC
Wylie, who was let go after one successful season when the new regime came in, thinks that McFadden is a bad fit for the zone blocking scheme.
“I thought that Darren was a back that ran downhill and off tackle,” Wylie told SiriusXM NFL Radio. “He is so fast, he out runs the zone block. … Sometimes your better off just pitching him that ball and letting him run around the corner and around the D. He can do that.”
Under coach Hue Jackson last year, the Raiders ran a gap and power-blocking scheme and finished 7th in the NFL in rushing. They’re 31st now.
“You have to fit what (McFadden) does, not what you want to do as a coach,” Wylie said.
Wylie speaking Truth. PRobaly why WIZ senior left. Ive been saying we have no idenity since week 1 though. Seems like Palmer got some of his friends together and is playing a pickup football game on offense smh
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a good leader has to self critique and be willing to change his philosphy as new information arises and circumstances change. if it hasn’t happened already get with dmac ask him what types of runs he prefers and alter the blocking schemes accordingly
October 1st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
WTF is Knapp not using Pryor as a weapon like what the Niners did yesterday with Kaepernick??
Knapp is a TURD!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
KrappyRat, the most abused goober in the history of the blog, undoubtedly was served his greatest humiliation at the hands of Steve Corkran during a live chat:
“Go kick rocks”
So epic, just fun to relive it from time to time
GOTS TO KEEP IT REAL
October 1st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Knapp is a TURD!
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Yep….
October 1st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Same for those of u who have defended Slowlando mclazy, Michael huff, and branch….go kick rocks!
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please add yourself and the rest of the palmer worshipers to your invitation.
elite instant upgrade huh?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
PLAIN n FCKN SIMPLE. FORMER OLINE COACH BOB WYLIE SPEAKS ON DMAC
Wylie, who was let go after one successful season when the new regime came in, thinks that McFadden is a bad fit for the zone blocking scheme.
“I thought that Darren was a back that ran downhill and off tackle,” Wylie told SiriusXM NFL Radio. “He is so fast, he out runs the zone block. … Sometimes your better off just pitching him that ball and letting him run around the corner and around the D. He can do that.”
Under coach Hue Jackson last year, the Raiders ran a gap and power-blocking scheme and finished 7th in the NFL in rushing. They’re 31st now.
“You have to fit what (McFadden) does, not what you want to do as a coach,” Wylie said.
Wylie speaking Truth. PRobaly why WIZ senior left. Ive been saying we have no idenity since week 1 though. Seems like Palmer got some of his friends together and is playing a pickup football game on offense smh
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a good leader has to self critique and be willing to change his philosphy as new information arises and circumstances change. if it hasn’t happened already get with dmac ask him what types of runs he prefers and alter the blocking schemes accordingly
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McK, DA and Knapp are not being good leaders now that is for sure. Can’t make the much needed and proper adjustments.
Stubborness and stupidity is a bad combination to have as a GM and Head football coach and offensive or defensive coordinator.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
thats a start da….get rid of krappy…
October 1st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
a good leader has to self critique and be willing to change his philosphy as new information arises and circumstances change.
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Our new leadership seem stuck in how they have done things in the past. Do not seem to be nible or flexible…Its ZBS WCO…All or nothing…Green bay guys only…
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 30th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 30th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
n HUE still had his players playing hard when it mattered.
That Christmas day KC game.. 3 long explosive plays one to DMOORE was on point. still put up 26 points last game of season. That should be enough for any team to win.
Allen will be lucky… lucky to win 8 games in 2 years
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Hue had to overcome so much adversity as a first year head coach it was crazy and he still had the team within one game of playoffs.
DA and Knapp would never be able to handle what Hue had to deal with last year and still have the team within one game of playoffs.
Hue deserved another year with a better DC.
Davis and McK blew it and now the team will suck for the next two years if not longer. Ooooff!
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yep
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
reggie paid huff a big bonus and spent alot of money on branch. that money could have went elsewhere
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YES!! EXACTLY! Because guys like Peyton Manning and Mario Williams and Vincent Jackson were just BEGGING to come to Oakland with our $6 million in cap space!!!
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lol,,yep i was hoping for peyton..no just nfl cbs not practice squad players. time will tell. next year reggie will have a draft and a whole year under his belt. lets hope for the best..
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
“Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Just think about it for a minute before you opine in here again about TP6 Einsteins!
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My issue with TP is that, you do not even dress him?
DCO’s know this and do not have to spend even 30 secs drawing up a scheme to mitigate him?
May as well cut him.”
Why not use him the way the 49ers used Kapernick yesterday is what we should be asking our coach!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Jon Gruden?
David Shaw?
Marty Schottenheimer?
Bill Cowher?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Best move the Reg made was keeping ASAUNDERS.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
at least wylie understood that
October 1st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
“Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Just think about it for a minute before you opine in here again about TP6 Einsteins!
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My issue with TP is that, you do not even dress him?
DCO’s know this and do not have to spend even 30 secs drawing up a scheme to mitigate him?
May as well cut him.”
Why not use him the way the 49ers used Kapernick yesterday is what we should be asking our coach!
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Exactly…To not dress the guy is dumb as hell… Indictment against the org.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Knapp defenders were quoting Wiley as a defense of the zbs two weeks ago…wtf is up with that guy?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
I really dont expect Huff to be here next year. Hes a 29 year old millionaire. Weve seen the best we will see from him. He is not all of the sudden going to become a hard hitting safety. He is actually one of the softest Safeties Ive ever seen play, and may have been better suited just staying at CB his whole career, because he does whatever he can to avoid contact. Maybe its just me, but I like Safeties that can tackle and hit. I think a good move for us would be to draft TJ McDonald next season for Safety.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Mistic1 Palmer is not the problem in fact he is the reason we are 1-3 instead of 0-4 pull your head out man.
Worst field position in the league right now our ST is horrible.
We are last in the league in running (which we all know is a QB’s best friend) horrible play calling and a poor O-Line are the reasons for our offensive struggles not the QB!!!!
Wake up!!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
This will be at least 3 year process.
Year 1 = Bottoms?
Year 2 = 8-8
Year 3 = get to the tournament
Whats wrong with this process????
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This will be at least 3 year process.
2003: Year 1 = Bottoms?
2004: Year 2 = 8-8
2005: Year 3 = get to the tournament
2006: ?
2007: ?
2008: ?
2009: ?
2010: ?
2011: ?
2012: ?
Whats wrong with this process????
Lol…don’t know, you tell me!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Jon Gruden?
David Shaw?
Marty Schottenheimer?
Bill Cowher?
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He’s a broadcaster.
Interesting possibility, but we went a different direction.
NO.
No.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Worst field position in the league right now our ST is horrible.
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Dumb to get rid of Bones.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
For the life of me I cannot understand the refusal to activate and use Pryor. Pryor is easily better than Kaepernick they are both in their 2nd years. This coaching staff is crazy. Where is Taiwan Jones?? and if I was the OC Ausberry would have at least 10 catches and a couple of TD’s right now. They literally sleep on half the talent available. Sleep Oh I get it…….Knapp!! on half the talent, with him it makes sense.
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Where is your evidence that Pryor is better?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
You have ZERO football IQ if you are one of the tards in here that are saying put Terrell Pryor in!
Palmer is struggling and he has 10 years experience in this league. He is struggling because of poor field position, poor O-Line play and no running game to support him and horrible play calling…..how the hell is TP6 supposed to overcome all of these issues with ZERO years of experience at QB?
Just think about it for a minute before you opine in here again about TP6 Einsteins!
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what is the point of palmer playing if we lose to atl?
we are already out of the running for the post season, and the promised of palmer leading us to glory have been proven to be empty delusion.
At least with tp we can evaluate what we have for next year. we will know if we need to draft geno smith or ej manual, and tp would give a reason to watch.
big mack cant sell palmer leading a losing team to the fan base
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Your off the mark again guy…..if we are picking in the top 5 I gaurentee we are trading down to get more picks not picking one player with this many holes to fill.
So you are going to tell me that if have the 5th pick of the draft next year and a premier LT is sitting there we take him even though we feel like we are set at that position?
Come on man that is just not logical and even you know that. Like I said earlier your theory is right sometimes but not all the time.
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If the LT is that much better than the next player on your board, and you think he can make an immediate impact? Yep. If we’re talking about the Raiders’ current roster, outside of Veldheer the Raiders could use tackle help badly.
But in my opinion, it’s pretty rare that there are standout prospects at that position worthy of Top 10 consideration. Every few years, sure, but even Matt Kalil wasn’t a complete prospect.
Again – if your evaluation process tells you that one player is head and shoulders above your other options talent-wise, then you take that player. If it’s a toss-up, then maybe need comes into the equation. But at the end of the day you’re looking for guys who can play big boy football. The worst thing you can do is panic, ditch your scouting staff’s evaluation process, and pick a player because you think you “have to”. That’s how teams stay bad.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.
Say what you want but in the last ten years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.
Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.
Now we are 3 years backwards
October 1st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
No run game, no wrs, Schyt oline and mystic1 is pushing his Palmer hate agenda? Go kick rocks!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Al would have fired DA during the bye week, possibly for cause, problem is nobody anybody’s heard of would have replaced him
October 1st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
It sounds like Barnes will be back after the bye?
I guess that’s good news…Willie couldn’t hold his own!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
This will be at least 3 year process.
2012: Year 1 = Bottoms?
2013: Year 2 = 8-8
2014: Year 3 = get to the tournament
2015: ?
2016: ?
2017: ?
2018: ?
2010: ?
2020: ?
2021: ?
Whats wrong with this process????
We were allready 8-8, now we go into full on rebuild, and reset the team, why?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Bottom line I dont think the RAiders will ever be good.
Say what you want but in the last ten years two guys were right for this team and knew what it meant to be a RAIDER. HUE JACKSON and JON GRUDEN.
Deniss Allen is finding out what HUE already knew.. THe defense sucks. HUE was gonna get his guys in.. his coaches and get rid of the players that didnt need to be here. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO Mark thought Hue wanted more power LOL of course he did ? THE DEFENSE SUCKED.
Now we are 3 years backwards
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Yep and it’s sad. Davis and McK screwed up big time by getting rid of Hue Jackson!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Another brutal Monday for the Nation… rack ‘em
Rough game to watch…. the lack of press coverage when we all know Peyton favors the short route-quick throw game was disturbing to say the least
…felt like we still had a chance at half-time (of course with the score), but the no challenge after the bad spot on Moore’s obvious first down killed any sort of momentum/spirit we had as a unit; and thats a damn shame that early in the half, but thats exactly what happened…
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
if that 1 player is Clowney take him.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
mystic1 is pushing his Palmer hate agenda
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he was singing his praises last week. he probably thinks JC Russel Wilson Troy Smith or Colin Kaepernick would have won this game
October 1st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
only emotion we had all day yesterday was when da was smiling with fox
October 1st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
John Elway and John Fox sent Dennis Allen to Oakland so that he can put the “McDaniels Effect” on the Raiders. Hue used to get manicures but Dennis is too busy writing thank you cards to the Broncos and getting his teeth whitened for reunion tour in Atl in two weeks. Asked if he had any regrets about the Bronco game Allen said “I can’t believe that I forgot to bring Coach Fox some gatorade at the end of the game! He likes it with 2 ice cubes…any more and he gets mad at me!”
Stay classy Coach McDaniels……I mean Coach Allen!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
IF Dennis Allen can suck it up and admit knapp was a mistake and hand off the o to Saunders, then he might save his job. Otherwise he is just screwing himself.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Samson Satele must have been a Pro Bowl beast last year. Who knew?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Your off the mark again guy…..if we are picking in the top 5 I gaurentee we are trading down to get more picks not picking one player with this many holes to fill.
So you are going to tell me that if have the 5th pick of the draft next year and a premier LT is sitting there we take him even though we feel like we are set at that position?
Come on man that is just not logical and even you know that. Like I said earlier your theory is right sometimes but not all the time.
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If the LT is that much better than the next player on your board, and you think he can make an immediate impact? Yep. If we’re talking about the Raiders’ current roster, outside of Veldheer the Raiders could use tackle help badly.
But in my opinion, it’s pretty rare that there are standout prospects at that position worthy of Top 10 consideration. Every few years, sure, but even Matt Kalil wasn’t a complete prospect.
Again – if your evaluation process tells you that one player is head and shoulders above your other options talent-wise, then you take that player. If it’s a toss-up, then maybe need comes into the equation. But at the end of the day you’re looking for guys who can play big boy football. The worst thing you can do is panic, ditch your scouting staff’s evaluation process, and pick a player because you think you “have to”. That’s how teams stay bad.
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if Clowney is there take him fck everything else.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Another brutal Monday for the Nation… rack ‘em
Rough game to watch…. the lack of press coverage when we all know Peyton favors the short route-quick throw game was disturbing to say the least
…felt like we still had a chance at half-time (of course with the score), but the no challenge after the bad spot on Moore’s obvious first down killed any sort of momentum/spirit we had as a unit; and thats a damn shame that early in the half, but thats exactly what happened…
^^^^^^^^
Not scoring a TD at the end of the 1st half was a killer also.
Predictable though. Knapp sucks as a play caller and it was sad to see Palmer not run the no huddle in this game and change Knapps crappy play calls as he did in the Pitt game.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
next mistic will be telling us how lechler is a bumb and marquette king is part of the waive of the future
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
mystic1 is pushing his Palmer hate agenda
_________________
he was singing his praises last week. he probably thinks JC Russel Wilson Troy Smith or Colin Kaepernick would have won this game
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guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
“Again – if your evaluation process tells you that one player is head and shoulders above your other options talent-wise, then you take that player. If it’s a toss-up, then maybe need comes into the equation. But at the end of the day you’re looking for guys who can play big boy football. The worst thing you can do is panic, ditch your scouting staff’s evaluation process, and pick a player because you think you “have to”. That’s how teams stay bad.”
I agree with that I think we are in agreement here.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I’d rather have marquese pope,anthony dorsett and Derrick Gibson over Michelle huff and Tyke Branch and Monique Mitchell
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Your off the mark again guy…..if we are picking in the top 5 I gaurentee we are trading down to get more picks not picking one player with this many holes to fill.
So you are going to tell me that if have the 5th pick of the draft next year and a premier LT is sitting there we take him even though we feel like we are set at that position?
Come on man that is just not logical and even you know that. Like I said earlier your theory is right sometimes but not all the time.
===================
If the LT is that much better than the next player on your board, and you think he can make an immediate impact? Yep. If we’re talking about the Raiders’ current roster, outside of Veldheer the Raiders could use tackle help badly.
But in my opinion, it’s pretty rare that there are standout prospects at that position worthy of Top 10 consideration. Every few years, sure, but even Matt Kalil wasn’t a complete prospect.
Again – if your evaluation process tells you that one player is head and shoulders above your other options talent-wise, then you take that player. If it’s a toss-up, then maybe need comes into the equation. But at the end of the day you’re looking for guys who can play big boy football. The worst thing you can do is panic, ditch your scouting staff’s evaluation process, and pick a player because you think you “have to”. That’s how teams stay bad.
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if Clowney is there take him fck everything else.
^^^^^^^^^
If Raiders are in the top 6 in picks…which they probably will be….then McK will try and trade down without a doubt.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
We are in complete rebuild mode. Why we have reset after going 8-8 is beyond ANY logic.
DA is going to get 3 years to make it work.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
What’s with all the hot man-lust towards this Clowney guy?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Welcome to the new Vanilla Raiders. Just dont know how to play that game.
Worst team in football. Does that make us #1?
Can we compete?
Do we get better week by week?
Can we make half time adjustments?
Do we have that fire and will to play?
Are we guarenteed success with the BS zbs/wco? And if you answered yes, why?
Are we tough enough to beat Atlanta?
I’m afraid the Atlanta came will be like a cat and mouse game. Guess who the mouse is.
Is knapp a genious OC?
Do we suck balls?
Our new regime only needed to re-load. Why rebuild with NO guarentee of success?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
It would have been nice to see Hue Jackson hire Ray Horton last year to be his DC like he tried to do.
Oh well.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
wow…homie said Derrick Gibson…. hahaha…it wasn’t that bad…..but Huff can gladly be shown the door along with McClain if he gives that poor ass effort again.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Al would have fired DA during the bye week, possibly for cause, problem is nobody anybody’s heard of would have replaced him
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Al would have never hired DA in the first place. And if Al was alive, Greg Knapp would not be welcome back in the facility. If Knapp was any good at anything, when Kiff was fired, he would have been promoted to HC. But instead, the man that was actually doing a good job with his assignment, Tom Cable with the o-line, was promoted. Now Cable was not HC material, but his proven success with the O-line and his ability to coach a bunch of scrubs into a decent line that bought into his vision was enough to earn him a shot at HC, for the interim. And he wasted no time stripping Knapp of playcalling. Knapp has blown it everywhere he has gone. The fact that DA assumed this time would be any different, all while having one of the greatest offensive minds in NFL history in Al Saunders on the staff, who could have kept some continuity, lets me know that he has no clue what he is doing. None. If I was a first time HC, I would not want to leave my offense in the hands of a man that has NEVER succeeded in the NFL. Thats just me. I would do some more homework and try to put my squad in the best position to succeed. Whatever my final choice ended up being, I know it would be a lot better than Knapp and his predictable Madden 95 playbook.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
After a single pre-season and three regular games some guys on here are writing off Denis Allen as our head coach. Some of you semi-pro’s crack me up…..
October 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
only emotion we had all day yesterday was when da was smiling with fox
__________________
didn’t see that i was too busy nearly getting tossed out of a bar because a denver fan was ragging on the raider fans in front of me. he doesn’t care, why should i?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
TailGaterRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Welcome to the new Vanilla Raiders. Just dont know how to play that game.
Worst team in football. Does that make us #1?
Can we compete?
Do we get better week by week?
Can we make half time adjustments?
Do we have that fire and will to play?
Are we guarenteed success with the BS zbs/wco? And if you answered yes, why?
Are we tough enough to beat Atlanta?
I’m afraid the Atlanta came will be like a cat and mouse game. Guess who the mouse is.
Is knapp a genious OC?
Do we suck balls?
Our new regime only needed to re-load. Why rebuild with NO guarentee of success?
^^^^^^^^
Terrible!
October 1st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Always been a fan of Parcells approach, build from the inside out. O-line, D-line then go from there.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
DA hiring Knapp as his OC didn’t sit well with like 90% of Raider Nation
October 1st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
“what is the point of palmer playing if we lose to atl?
we are already out of the running for the post season, and the promised of palmer leading us to glory have been proven to be empty delusion.
At least with tp we can evaluate what we have for next year. we will know if we need to draft geno smith or ej manual, and tp would give a reason to watch.
big mack cant sell palmer leading a losing team to the fan base”
TP6 has less experience and less knowledge of the playbook not to mention not as much experience reading defenses as Palmer….that being said you think Palmer looks bad struggling with this weak O-Line TP6 would look awful if we inserted him now.
Lets fix this O-Line and Special Teams unit get a running game going and by mid season we could try the TP6 experiment but not now it would ruin the kid.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Only positive is this blowout came right before the bye week ’cause it reveals the true problems in the org and on the team…..Reggie seems quick to pull the trigger on things as he’s auditioning to be Mark and Amy’s new best friend. Maybe some surprise fires are in store? Never know…. I got my popcorn ready…I’m just waiting for the show to start….
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
If the no huddle worked vs Pitt, why didn’t knapp allow Palmer to use it against denver?
Did he feel upstaged and wasn’t going to let that happen again? Did he feel Palmer got to much credit for the win? Did he think he was smarter than Manning? We are gonna suck until Palmer and Dmac take over the offense with the help of Saunders. The proof is in the w/l record.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I’d rather have marquese pope,anthony dorsett and Derrick Gibson over Michelle huff and Tyke Branch and Monique Mitchell
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be careful reggie spent big bucks keeping huff and branch. all the reggie lovers will tell you it was the caps fault not his own brain making that decision.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
meanwhile my boy RGIII engineered his first come back win in the nfl (old hat for him).
His head set failed and he called his own plays on the final drive for the win.
he will be the greatest redskin in the teams history, and the best player shanahan has ever coached
book it
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
mystic1 is pushing his Palmer hate agenda
_________________
he was singing his praises last week. he probably thinks JC Russel Wilson Troy Smith or Colin Kaepernick would have won this game
===============
guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
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I’m going to tell you somethn you should already know Mistic stats dont always tell the whole story.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
i honestly believe is tom brady aaron rodgers or RGIII was our qb we would have won the game yesterday
October 1st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Post 192 solid, +6
October 1st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
meant still would have lost the game
October 1st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
“what is the point of palmer playing if we lose to atl?
we are already out of the running for the post season, and the promised of palmer leading us to glory have been proven to be empty delusion.
At least with tp we can evaluate what we have for next year. we will know if we need to draft geno smith or ej manual, and tp would give a reason to watch.
big mack cant sell palmer leading a losing team to the fan base”
TP6 has less experience and less knowledge of the playbook not to mention not as much experience reading defenses as Palmer….that being said you think Palmer looks bad struggling with this weak O-Line TP6 would look awful if we inserted him now.
Lets fix this O-Line and Special Teams unit get a running game going and by mid season we could try the TP6 experiment but not now it would ruin the kid.
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answer the question, what would be the point of playing palmer after a loss to atl?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
All the blame thrown at players and the 2 that deserve the most besides McClain are getting free rides.77 and 99 aren’t doing their jobs.We get no pressure on the QB.You could take any NFL QB and he would look great against us because he has absolutely pressure from the edges.92 and 93 get doubled and 77 and 99 stil can’t get near the QB.Huge problem.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
LondonAl Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
After a single pre-season and three regular games some guys on here are writing off Denis Allen as our head coach. Some of you semi-pro’s crack me up…..
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If we were taking baby steps by getting better, thats one thing. But wetting the bed like we do, thats another thing.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
That stadium was rocking from the beginning, so I doubt the no huddle would have worked.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
TailGaterRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
If the no huddle worked vs Pitt, why didn’t knapp allow Palmer to use it against denver?
Did he feel upstaged and wasn’t going to let that happen again? Did he feel Palmer got to much credit for the win? Did he think he was smarter than Manning? We are gonna suck until Palmer and Dmac take over the offense with the help of Saunders. The proof is in the w/l record.
^^^^^^^^
Yep! Without the offense scoring TD’s and being efficient this team will remain TERRIBLE…because the D can’t be relied upon at all.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
99, is not a DE, he is a DT at best.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
mystic1 is pushing his Palmer hate agenda
_________________
he was singing his praises last week. he probably thinks JC Russel Wilson Troy Smith or Colin Kaepernick would have won this game
===============
guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
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I’m going to tell you somethn you should already know Mistic stats dont always tell the whole story.
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in this case they do, he has not been very good. he has been pedestrian this year and he was god awful last year.
he has not been worth what we gave up, and he never will be.
he is a stop gap, nothing more
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Crazy to think that this line had 46 sacks when Wauffle was here?
I didn’t look that number up.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Shaughnessy has been the biggest let down.
Huge regress.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
198-if you ‘honestly’ believe that,thanks there is no use ever reading anything you write because,well,just because.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
What’s with all the hot man-lust towards this Clowney guy?
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Duck you dont know who clowney is? he is the best passrusher in college football and he plays in the SEC for SC. Also was the #1 player out of highschool and he’s lived up to the hype.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
99, is more disruptive on the inside than out.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
99 hustles
October 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Does anyone have the email for Mark Davis,Reggie MacKenzie and Amy Trask? We need to flood their emails to voice our displeasure with this team.
What is the mailing address to Raiders Hdqters?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Thec,99 plays end.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
NY,they all hustle,except 55,but 99 needs to start making plays.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
I hope the Raider coaches and the OC realize why their cornhole aches so bad today.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Thec,99 plays end.
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I know left however, he did play DT in college, and from what I heard prefers to plat inside. furthermore, he has played insie on certain situations.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Shaughnessy has been the biggest let down.
Huge regress.
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Agreed. Your RDE is supposed to generate sacks. Shaughnessy? Not so much.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
NY,they all hustle,except 55.
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#55 is a “hoodstar”, not a footballer.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
“answer the question, what would be the point of playing palmer after a loss to atl?”
Because at 1-4 the season is not over yet and if you want to throw in the towel you should do it after your 8th loss not your 4th loss.
You would look like a quitter if you took Palmer out after only 5 games into the season. The pats were 0-4 and went to a Super Bowl in case you forgot.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Nyraider,
Didn’t al Davis re-sign Michael huff in 2011?
October 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Thec,you can say he should be in the middle and I couldn’t argue,but as an end he isn’t making plays or getting after the QB.That is what we need.Pressure on the opposing QB.
October 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Lmaooo… Romamoskowski … Rolondo is a puppy hunter… He ain’t no Boar hunter….
Good one… I agree
October 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
1-4 sorry not 0-4
October 1st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
218.Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Thec,99 plays end.
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I know left however, he did play DT in college, and from what I heard prefers to plat inside. furthermore, he has played insie on certain situations.
______________________________________________________
Yes, next year Bryant and Houston as our DTs…bye-bye Seymour and Kelly…Paid to be playmakes (Difference Makers), but end up being graded as “not part of the problem.”
October 1st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Nyraider,
Didn’t al Davis re-sign Michael huff in 2011?
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this year huff had a big bonus paid to him
October 1st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I cant shake the feeling that we have somethng special waiting for us, even as bad as this season has started.
Ther is a silver and black lining.
we will either draft a qb next year,( smith or manual the two best qb’s in college) or it will be TP6 time.
either way we are headed for positive things from the qb spot.
After watching cam newton this sunday, i cant help but think the tp6 can do similar things here for us.
One more loss and no one will be able to justify pryor holding a clip board or being in street clothes
October 1st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Thec,you can say he should be in the middle and I couldn’t argue,but as an end he isn’t making plays or getting after the QB.That is what we need.Pressure on the opposing QB.
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Left we are not disagreing here, 99 has no business playing end imo, he has done nada.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Just when we thought we may have “turned the corner” last week,we go “around the corner” and get our lunch money and sneakers taken from us!
Where is the “Will To Win”? I saw fire from Carson and T Branch but other than that WHERE IS THE FIRE? The damn coach acts like he doesnt give a damn while coaching the game…
I was NOT ONBOARD with canning HUE.We replaced him with this?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
mystic1 is pushing his Palmer hate agenda
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he was singing his praises last week. he probably thinks JC Russel Wilson Troy Smith or Colin Kaepernick would have won this game
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guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
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I’m going to tell you somethn you should already know Mistic stats dont always tell the whole story.
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in this case they do, he has not been very good. he has been pedestrian this year and he was god awful last year.
he has not been worth what we gave up, and he never will be.
he is a stop gap, nothing more
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No they dont, he came off the couch last year remember that? and now he is in an O that doesnt suit him playing behinh an oline that has regressed. your precious stats dont mean crap.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Fellas, I just sent some “feedback” to the Raiders (Addressed to Reggie)about Coach Allen’s happy-as* reaction to the drubbing at Denver’s midfield yesterday.
If you wanna sound off, go here.
http://www.raiders.com/footer/contact-us.html
October 1st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Crazy to think that this line had 46 sacks when Wauffle was here?
I didn’t look that number up.
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Damn, I miss those Wauffles!!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
We were allready 8-8, now we go into full on rebuild, and reset the team, why?
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It doesn’t even matter anymore man. The damage is done. I don’t even know what their “Vision” is….We don’t have an identity anymore either. To “Hope” for, or even expect good things this year is ludicrous.
I have moved along in the greiving process and I’m somewhere in the “Acceptance” stage right now.
I was in denial, and hit the RAGE portion, went through bargaining…”Well, if they demote Knapp…If they switch back to power scheme…If, If, maybe.”
We aren’t even at Ground Zero yet. They’re still making evaluations right now. This offseason, we’ll see the REAL shockwave as the roster gets leveled. Next year will REALLY be like year #1……
October 1st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
It was refreshing to see 55 replaced yesterday.Too bad it didn’t happen sooner or for good.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
All the blame thrown at players and the 2 that deserve the most besides McClain are getting free rides.77 and 99 aren’t doing their jobs.We get no pressure on the QB.You could take any NFL QB and he would look great against us because he has absolutely pressure from the edges.92 and 93 get doubled and 77 and 99 stil can’t get near the QB.Huge problem.
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But this is the reason you DO NOT let an edge rusher go unless you have a replacement. But everyone looked at Wimbley’s sack totals and not his pressures. The edge rushers forced a lot of sacks last year. But everyone said he should get them. It a matter of understand how sacks happen.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Remeber when BILL CALLAHAN was pissed after raiders loss in 03 or whatever year it was .. he said
THE RAIDERS HAVE TO BE THE …._dummezz______ TEAM IN AMERICA”
How did he know that we would fire HUE JACKSON and REHIRE KNAPP??
I mean how did he know that ??
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
-Carter and Spencer will help tremendously on D
-Oline coach needs to be fired and bring back Wylie which wouldn’t be drastic as he’s coached these guys and uses both zone and power
-the rest is on DA to have these guys play like they give a sh#t
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
McBuiscuits is a joke!
Bring back Wauffle and bacon while we’re at it!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
F- (if that’s even possible)
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
If you would have swapped QB’s for the game and gave us Manning and given them Palmer the results would have been the exact same thing. The problem isn’t the QB..Its the Defensive Backfield, and the Offensive Running Scheme as well as the D-Line gets no pressure, and the Offensive line likes to imitate turnstiles from time to time.
Our coaching, and creativity is about as predictable and boring as it can possibly get. We are in for a LONG 4 years kids.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Jarvis Moss and Andre Carter could help this nteam immediately.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
We didn’t get beat by a better team. We made them look better that they are because we don’t have drive. If we would have competed, the game is much closer. Palmer and Moore are legit. Dmac can be when he feels like the game plan suits him. How can you expect the players to compete when the coaches have no fire. Nice moves Reggie. Shoulda had more say in DA’s hiring of his assts.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Jarvis Moss wouldnt help any team.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Young puppy GM has a lot to learn…
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
It was refreshing to see 55 replaced yesterday.Too bad it didn’t happen sooner or for good.
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Could of cut 55 2 weeks ago.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Theghostronin79 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
This offseason, we’ll see the REAL shockwave as the roster gets leveled. Next year will REALLY be like year #1……
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By Week 1 of 2013, I’d expect to see no more than a dozen guys from the current roster still here. It’s gonna be a good old-fashioned gutting this offseason.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Deion Sanders could help this team immediately!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
BRING BACK WYLIE!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
There is no reason to draft a QB!
Palmer is a good QB and will be for a year or two and we have our future in TP6 hopefully they are grooming him for success.
We need a DE DT MLB and CB more urgently than we need another QB on this roster.
How about a RT how about another WR how about another Safety the list goes on…..
October 1st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
It was refreshing to see 55 replaced yesterday.Too bad it didn’t happen sooner or for good.
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Could of cut 55 2 weeks ago.
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I’d stopped paying attention by then. Who did we replace McChump with? Goethel? And was there any noticeable improvement?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Nyraider, had al Davis not signed Michael huff to a 4 year 32 million dollar deal in 2011, then Reggie would not have had to restructure huff’s deal. Do you understand that?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DMAC Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
McBuiscuits is a joke!
Bring back Wauffle and bacon while we’re at it!
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Don’t forget the prime rib Bones.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
i’ve been telling u guys for months that mcclain was the worst mlb in football. now it seems finally people are seeing it.
let’s see. worst mlb, worst corners in football, poor o-line, tentative rb, below average wr’s. looks like a 4-10 season.
this sucks.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
DMAC Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
McBuiscuits is a joke!
Bring back Wauffle and bacon while we’re at it!
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Where is Wauffle coaching at?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Dakota, man if you were in the SD area I would buy you a few rounds. you seem mighty pissed Bruh.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
The Oakland Raiders are the only team in the NFL to actually lose the game before it even begins
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
“MikieG Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
If you would have swapped QB’s for the game and gave us Manning and given them Palmer the results would have been the exact same thing. The problem isn’t the QB..Its the Defensive Backfield, and the Offensive Running Scheme as well as the D-Line gets no pressure, and the Offensive line likes to imitate turnstiles from time to time.
Our coaching, and creativity is about as predictable and boring as it can possibly get. We are in for a LONG 4 years kids.”
Most sense able post I have read IN HERE today!
Nice Post!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
We were allready 8-8, now we go into full on rebuild, and reset the team, why?
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It doesn’t even matter anymore man. The damage is done. I don’t even know what their “Vision” is….We don’t have an identity anymore either. To “Hope” for, or even expect good things this year is ludicrous.
I have moved along in the greiving process and I’m somewhere in the “Acceptance” stage right now.
I was in denial, and hit the RAGE portion, went through bargaining…”Well, if they demote Knapp…If they switch back to power scheme…If, If, maybe.”
We aren’t even at Ground Zero yet. They’re still making evaluations right now. This offseason, we’ll see the REAL shockwave as the roster gets leveled. Next year will REALLY be like year #1……
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Its like somebody else said in here a week or so ago. Were stuck in a 16 game pre-season mode right now. Everyone is getting “Evaluated”….evaluated dudes…this is the NFL and were still EVALUATING people to see who is going to still be here NEXT YEAR!
WTF Happened to THIS YEAR???????
F’ this ZBS, it SUCKS! Coaches are preaching patience?? PATIENCE?? We have been PATIENT for a freakin DECADE MAN! Screw you KNAPP and your PATIENCE Mantra!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
$$ never stopped Mr Davis from getting players the coaches wanted so quit the whining.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
my kids were getting baptized yesterday, so i was only able to see some of the game. after seeing the result, i dumped the game from my dvr. don’t even wanna watch what i missed.
this sucks.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Thanks for thee update Cork! I agree 100% with your grades. We were awful! I think the womens roller derby team could have suited up and played better and tougher than my Raiders played yesterday. I still Love my Raiders but something must to change and I believe it will. What a mess.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
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No they dont, he came off the couch last year remember that? and now he is in an O that doesnt suit him playing behinh an oline that has regressed. your precious stats dont mean crap.
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you can offer up excuses until the cows come home folks, but the ugly fat remain.
palmer has not played well, nor has he delivered what everyone said he would.
last year it was rust, this year its the system. Its never him, even though he is the common denominator?
palmer sucks in silver and black, the numbers and game film back up my position.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
if Clowney is there take him fck everything else.
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I’m not sure Clowney is even draft eligible until 2014.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
r8eray Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
DMAC Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
McBuiscuits is a joke!
Bring back Wauffle and bacon while we’re at it!
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Where is Wauffle coaching at?
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STL with Bones I believe..
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
error….something must change
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
How different would our team be if we had picked Calvin Johnson instead of Jamarcus Russell?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Oakland Raiders: Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s played so sluggishly this year, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and if I were Dennis Allen, I’d cut him ASAP.
It’s a tough choice between Johnathan Hankins and Star Lotulelei. Hankins had a monstrous performance against California and might be inches ahead of the Utah prospect.
From walter football lol regardin our 2013 draft pick
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I bet huge is laugh up a storm right about know.
Greg Knapp…ROFLHBAO…
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Who did we replace McChump with? Goethel? And was there any noticeable improvement?
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At least Goethel tried to get in on tackles instead of getting paid to be a spectator.So I’d say yes,there was a tremendous amount of improvement.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
How different would our team be if we had picked Calvin Johnson instead of Jamarcus Russell?
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Oh man, we’re doing that again..
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Special teams
A deflected punt by David Bruton, who got far enough inside Brandon Myers and made a perfectly timed leap, led to a short field Denver touchdown. Taiwan Jones had two nice stops on punt returns of Jim Leonhard but later got a face mask penalty. Punt returns? That would mean the Broncos actually punted. They didn’t. Grade C-minus
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Based on your C- grade for our special teams unit…..Steve….you have no business grading anything…
PERIOD
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
palmer sucks in silver and black, the numbers and game film back up my position
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so why were you telling us how great he was last week?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Bones is in STL?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
you want a pass rush draft clowney.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
The Oakland Raiders are the only team in the NFL to actually lose the game before it even begins
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Thats how they game plan. We got genious ability to game plan. We look at the cheese but don’t see the trap.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I’d rather have marquese pope,anthony dorsett and Derrick Gibson over Michelle huff and Tyke Branch and Monique Mitchell
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be careful reggie spent big bucks keeping huff and branch. all the reggie lovers will tell you it was the caps fault not his own brain making that decision.
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Al payed Huff. Reggie should have just cut Branch.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
How different would our team be if we had picked Calvin Johnson instead of Jamarcus Russell?
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Oh man, we’re doing that again..
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I really think that was the defining moment.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
backstageatapuppetshow, does Reggie get 3 years?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Priest, al Davis as gm put together dog Schyt teams for
Nearly a decade, and had very little success for a quarter century! Please spit his leathery nut sack out of your mouth.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
if Clowney is there take him fck everything else.
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I’m not sure Clowney is even draft eligible until 2014.
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He’s not listed anywhere in DraftCountdown.com’s mock draft.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Bones is in STL?
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Yep.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
If Al Davis was alive, Cuach Allen would be unemployed today for his happy reaction at midfield among his enemies and defeated men.
Skype that!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Priest, al Davis as gm put together dog Schyt teams for
Nearly a decade, and had very little success for a quarter century! Please spit his leathery nut sack out of your mouth.
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Exactly.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
How different would our team be if we had picked Calvin Johnson instead of Jamarcus Russell?
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Oh man, we’re doing that again..
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Since Calvin Johnson would have nobody to get him the ball, probably not all that different.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
And YES. Mike Waufle is in STL too..
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Thec, agree, Let Saunders have the two weeks to junk the zbs, call plays that Work for this team. Heck, two years of 8 and 8 doesnt sound bad now, NO?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Tailgaterraider-yes we did get beat by a better team.Difficult to admit but it is true.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
After the game on the Raiders post-game show, both Romo and LoNeal blasted the Raiders for lacking talent to compete in the NFL, obviously without naming anyone. Now, those are mighty harsh words, true they were said right after an embarrassing loss, but under all that drivel there lies a lot of truth.
How could that be, top paid players in both offense and defense, a supposedly “elite” qb and allegedly the best rb in the league (so the fan base and Corky believe) and a top pro-bowl DT, and the Raiders still can compete in the NFL. What have the Raiders turned into? The west coast bungles? Believe it, when you have captain bungle at the helm, that’s what you’ll get.
But, obviously not much coaching talent either, for one the head case, err coach, is a robot that can figure out left from right, who believes in a moronic offensive scheme, and what about the DC? Had this been Chucky Bresnahan, we would be all over this moron.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
$$ never stopped Mr Davis from getting players the coaches wanted so quit the whining.
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Mr Davis would be livid if he could see what RegMac and Allen are doing to this team.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Bones is in STL?
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Yep.
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thats an issue with the NFL.
It becomes the good ole boy network. Bring in ya homies, stuff like that.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
lets see, i was right about newton and rgIII.
I have been touting geno smith and ej manual as this draft class, best qbs
still think i dont know what im talking about?
big mck if you dont believ in pryor, get us one of those two guys
palmer is finished
October 1st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
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No they dont, he came off the couch last year remember that? and now he is in an O that doesnt suit him playing behinh an oline that has regressed. your precious stats dont mean crap.
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you can offer up excuses until the cows come home folks, but the ugly fat remain.
palmer has not played well, nor has he delivered what everyone said he would.
last year it was rust, this year its the system. Its never him, even though he is the common denominator?
palmer sucks in silver and black, the numbers and game film back up my position.
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mistic, honestly u are an idiot. last week ur telling us how good palmer is.
get it thru ur stupid racist mind, palmer isn’t the problem. he’s been the best raider so far.
let’s ask a really simple question. what do u think of mcclain? who’s better? mcclain or goethel? lemme guess, mcclain is being unfairly criticized and needs more opportunity, better scheme, etc. right? ur act is so ignorant, it boggles the mind.
go read a black panther book.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Mistic how good would this team be with some of your ultra athletic faves Mike Vick or Troy Smith?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
if Clowney is there take him fck everything else.
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I’m not sure Clowney is even draft eligible until 2014.
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Clowney is a soph. you can come out after your soph year right? didnt Knowshon Moreno do it?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I’d rather see the Raiders go 3-13 than 8-8 again. At least Reggie could get some good draft picks.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I would have rather had our CB’s play bump and run then get beat than play 8 yards off to sustain drives. That would be the Raider way, die trying.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
If Kenny Stabler was still 28,if Cliff Branch was still 28,if ,if,if.Stop with the ifs.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
still preaching the money thing…thick skulls…it never stopped al from
getting players….
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
We dont have inferior players who can’t compete. We have inferior coaches who get outsmarted.
They cant see the trap cause the cheese looks awfully tasty.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
lets see, i was right about newton and rgIII.
I have been touting geno smith and ej manual as this draft class, best qbs
still think i dont know what im talking about?
big mck if you dont believ in pryor, get us one of those two guys
palmer is finished
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now, ur just a plain liar. last week, u were saying how good palmer was and how bad newton was playing. clearly, u were trying to cover for urself and go with what was obvious. now u act like u never said it.
liar and racist.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
hendu Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Thec, agree, Let Saunders have the two weeks to junk the zbs, call plays that Work for this team. Heck, two years of 8 and 8 doesnt sound bad now, NO?
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doesnt sound bad however, I am not sure we can make 8-8.
with the talent, and the org set, we are stuck.
8-8 would equal a dream sequence. We would have to go 7-5 the rest of the way.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
lets see, i was right about newton and rgIII.
I have been touting geno smith and ej manual as this draft class, best qbs
still think i dont know what im talking about?
big mck if you dont believ in pryor, get us one of those two guys
palmer is finished
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The jury is still out on Newton. Russel Wilson isn’t playing so great.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
palmer sucks in silver and black, the numbers and game film back up my position
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so why were you telling us how great he was last week?
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i didnt say he was great i did acknowledge his best game as a raider though.
When he plays good football he deserves credit for it, he has hasnt done it very often in a raider uniform.
he hasnt delivered the goods, nad his constant sideline tantrums are wearing thin.
captain bungles is a loser, just like i told you he would be
October 1st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
lets see, i was right about newton and rgIII.
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MOST ppl thought RGIII would be very good so no credit earned there. Newton was drafted #1, but lot of doubters so you get kudos there. what about Troy Smith and Mike Vick? you said they’d b great qb’s, are you going to deny them now?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The best thing for the Raiders to do is strip Knapp of play-calling and handing it to Saunders. That seems the only was to avoid a boycott of tickets for home games.
The clock is ticking….
October 1st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Thanks thec, I need a round or two
October 1st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The jury is still out on Newton. Russel Wilson isn’t playing so great.
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There’s rumbling in seattle for Flynn. The Seattle Chokehawks may have a good D, and a O-line, but their 2-2 and the latte sippers are cryin in their lattes.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
still preaching the money thing…thick skulls…it never stopped al from
getting players….
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Yeah, and look where that left us. We have no depth because Al mortgaged the future with desperate signings.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Thanks thec, I need a round or two
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I feel ya pain somewhat Bruh, as you got to see it live, upclose, and in person.
Next 7 rounds are on me.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Flynn > Wilson
October 1st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
i, for one, will not go to a game as long as mcclain is the mlb.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Reggie’s GM record.
1-3
October 1st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Yep, al always found money to sign guys like j walker, g Wilson, t Kelly, sapp, huff, routt, Larry brown, Desmond Howard and on and on…he was a great gm for sure!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The Oracle Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The best thing for the Raiders to do is strip Knapp of play-calling and handing it to Saunders. That seems the only was to avoid a boycott of tickets for home games.
The clock is ticking….
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We have a winner! Rmac and Allen, get with the program. If you give Saunders the OC, you will get wins. Players are pros, they can adjust mid season to Saunders. Do it! Now is the time.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
i’ve been telling u guys for months that mcclain was the worst mlb in football. now it seems finally people are seeing it.
let’s see. worst mlb, worst corners in football, poor o-line, tentative rb, below average wr’s. looks like a 4-10 season.
this sucks.
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4-10 sounds a bit optimistic at this point.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Why didn’t we sign Aaron Berry? Oh yeah, he has some personal mistakes…BFD.
Oh and how does CB Chris Johnson look now? I wonder if his head is on straight and he is in shape. Why not?!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I’d rather see the Raiders go 3-13 than 8-8 again. At least Reggie could get some good draft picks.
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As much as it hurts to see this team re-regress (is that possible) I’d have to agree with you.
How the hell did we re-regress?
Because we put a lawnmower engine in a race car (our offense) and asked an ice cream truck driver (Knapp) to drive it.
Defense is just crap and we need to move on from the players that have been here and exposed to the losing/carrousel coaching changes, diseaseof the past years.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Who did we replace McChump with? Goethel? And was there any noticeable improvement?
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At least Goethel tried to get in on tackles instead of getting paid to be a spectator.So I’d say yes,there was a tremendous amount of improvement.
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Lefty12 I know this wont matter to many and maybe eve you. But the kid twisted the same ankle from last year he needs to sit down until it’s better because this year Goethel is healthy and can man that position. Last year Ro played on that ankle and his knee.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:23 pm
If I see 1 more screen pass behind the LOS Im going to bust something.
HEAR ME KNAPP?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
sorry, it’s not 1974. not 4-10. i meant 4-12.
we already have 1 win, so only 3 to go. not sure if we can get there though.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
You people keep forgetting how awesome our punter is. We will not lose again this season.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
tj,
RO is a AL pick so why isn’t Reggie sitting him? Oh Goethel is AL’s too! haha
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Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Lefty12 I know this wont matter to many and maybe eve you. But the kid twisted the same ankle from last year he needs to sit down until it’s better because this year Goethel is healthy and can man that position. Last year Ro played on that ankle and his knee
October 1st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
NO joke KNAPP should not be OC anymore. Doesnt the Raiders have like Records like “the books” how does REGGIE not know KNAPP was here already b4 in 07 and sucked.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Hopefully McClain will go to jail or get suspended.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Lefty12 I know this wont matter to many and maybe eve you. But the kid twisted the same ankle from last year he needs to sit down until it’s better because this year Goethel is healthy and can man that position. Last year Ro played on that ankle and his knee.
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Makes a big diffrence TJ. If McClain is hurt, we should know that he is manning up, and playing hurt however, he appears to lack talent, and desire.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
lets see, i was right about newton and rgIII.
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MOST ppl thought RGIII would be very good so no credit earned there. Newton was drafted #1, but lot of doubters so you get kudos there. what about Troy Smith and Mike Vick? you said they’d b great qb’s, are you going to deny them now?
dr_robert Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
now, ur just a plain liar. last week, u were saying how good palmer was and how bad newton was playing. clearly, u were trying to cover for urself and go with what was obvious. now u act like u never said it.
liar and racist..
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newton has been uneven but he bounced back yesterday and looked like the old cam from last year.
I have no problem admitting when a player i like is struggling, unlike many here. Nor do i have a problem giving palmer credit for a good performance, even if they are rare like big foot sightings.
By the way you guys do know that eagle 7 is now 3-1 and tied for the division lead. You are awre that eagle 7 is responsible for 2 game winning drives this year against baltimore and the giants right?
I would take eagle 7 over palmer right now and twice on sunday, he leads wins plamer has not.
correction people jumped on the rgIII hype afer he was in the lead for the Heisman, but i told you about him when he was a freshman. Until he was invited to ny, most people said he couldnt play in the nfl.
revisionist history is very funny
October 1st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
7th round, we are sitting in the “war room”, on the clock. Does Al Davis take Nathan Stupar or Vontaze Burfict. Talk about Al’s first round busts all you want, rounds 3 and up, Al was gold a lot of times. In all fairness, every team let Burfict slide, but I cant help but feel like Al would not have. And certainly not for Nathan Stupar. Id love to see Burfict in S&B right now. Bengals are loaded at LB and still brought him in, and hes producing for them. Meanwhile, we have……not Nathan Stupar anymore.
Seriously, the Oakland Raiders drafted Nathan Stupar. I know Im knitpicking right now. Just saying. The writing has been on the wall. I realize more and more that I was an Al Davis Raiders fan, and Im OK with that. This team organization isnt my team. And when they start winning at some point, probably in a couple to few years, it will be an entirely different organization and spirit, one which is completely different from the brand of football I grew up on. Heres to you, Nathan Stupar.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
The first game of the year is more representative of what Rolando can do, That was the only full game he was healthy unfortunately fans couldn’t care less.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Because we put a lawnmower engine in a race car (our offense) and asked an ice cream truck driver (Knapp) to drive it.
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ROFLMAO…..RAIDERS we officially have the quote of the day.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Can we start calling McClain “Rolando McBosworth”?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
BRAHS HUGE NEWS OUT OF CAMP BEEECH DAWG
Dudes, after a whole week of partying San Diego style, bagging major beach volleyball poon and smoking hella phat doobies, the Beeech Lawg is now measuring a full FOOT!
Hells yeah, mission accomplished, president Bush (shout out to the USA and Lady Liberty)
Now just gotta bust out a few hundred squats so I can support the extra load
Also gotta order more fluorescent tank tops, stat
ROLLIN WITH THE BEEEECH DAWG PARTY CREW< HOLLA
October 1st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
The first game of the year is more representative of what Rolando can do, That was the only full game he was healthy unfortunately fans couldn’t care less.
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I asked a pointed question to the Semi’s this morning.
that question was is McClain injured?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
The first game of the year is more representative of what Rolando can do, That was the only full game he was healthy unfortunately fans couldn’t care less.
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So your a McBosworth apologist now too?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Glad all the adults are keeping it NATION football.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
guys the numbers speak for themselves
5-9 as the starter, 2-4 in the division 18 picks in 14 starts
I didnt make this up it is documented fact.
dont be upset with me because i told you this is what would would happen
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mistic, honestly u are an idiot. last week ur telling us how good palmer is.
get it thru ur stupid racist mind, palmer isn’t the problem. he’s been the best raider so far.
let’s ask a really simple question. what do u think of mcclain? who’s better? mcclain or goethel? lemme guess, mcclain is being unfairly criticized and needs more opportunity, better scheme, etc. right? ur act is so ignorant, it boggles the mind.
go read a black panther book.
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romac sucks so does goethel so does palmer your hero
race has nothing to do with it
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
At least DA “ADMITTED” that the Zone scheme is on the evaluation table……They’ve got a bye week. Do what needs to be done.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Beeech, we’re not in the mood for your bull sh*t today. Go f*ck yourself.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Thec the bad part about manning up is fans still want to see you at 100% even if they KNOW you’re hurt. This fell on that TD and know his ankle gave way. I don’t need someone to tell what happened. ButThec this kid has given us all 50% of what he has or whatever % he’s puttin’ it on the field good or bad. That’s what I love about the kid and he doesn’t MAKE EXCUSES!!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
John David booty,
Hasn’t it been reported that over the past several years al let the coaches have more say aboutthe players drafted in the later rounds?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
There are some here going out of their to diminish the DA smiley celebration as “no big deal” or “everyone does that” etc.
1st off, NOT everybody does that. Tell me honestly have you EVER seen Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Landry, Belichik, Ryan, Harbaugh or ANY coach that is somewhat esteemed in this league look as happy and smiley after a blowout loss…heck ANY loss to a division rival as DA did with Fox after that game?
Secondly, could you even imagine ANY of the coaches I just mentioned doing so?………….. NO!
This “smilegate” has led to some here proclaiming DA to “not be a Raider”.
I maintain that THAT is the sole reason some here defend him on this. They don’t want him to be a “Raider”. They want our team to be a sanitized version of its former self and just like every other team in the league.
To them, saying our coach “is not a Raider” is the highest compliment you could give.
Being “a Raider” is waaaaaay too Al “Davisee” for them as they wish to distance this team from anything that remotely reminds them of the evil Al Davis or speaks to anything resembling what could be called “Raider Mystique”.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Thec Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Glad all the adults are keeping it NATION football.
Its easy to skip over the useless dribble once you read the name of the poster.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
still preaching the money thing…thick skulls…it never stopped al from
getting players….
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That’s because the last time Davis’ Raiders were a consistently competitive franchise, free agency didn’t really exist.
But look at the teams who have spent big money in free agency over the last decade or two – Dallas? Philly last year? Tampa Bay this year? None of those teams have lived up to the billing.
Franchises that are now experiencing the kind of consistent success that the Raiders experienced through the 60s, 70s and 80s have done so because they’ve built from the inside out. They draft and develop players well, and have consistency in philosophy between the front office and the coaching staff.
THESE are the things that the Raiders have been missing in the modern era. Al Davis did a lot of great things as an owner, but the last two decades were not good ones for the Raiders.
Believe what you want, but this transition wasn’t going to happen without being accompanied by a massive rebuilding project.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
The first game of the year is more representative of what Rolando can do, That was the only full game he was healthy unfortunately fans couldn’t care less.
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I’d like to believe that but as of now I don’t.I watched him a lot yesterday and even if his ankle was bothering him,he was making no effort to stick his head into plays-NONE.Most of the time he was going sideways trying to avoid any contact.Watch him again.His effort yesterday was a joke,injured ankle or not.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
but yes he does have a lack of speed. It seems like Rolando wants to be close to home. Even in that PITT game.. i saw him in the 4th quarter on the sideline.. the crowd cheering on the offfense. Defense just came to the sideline all fired up…
He was just not really paying attention.. just chillin like was whatever zero emotion
October 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Thec the bad part about manning up is fans still want to see you at 100% even if they KNOW you’re hurt. This fell on that TD and know his ankle gave way. I don’t need someone to tell what happened. ButThec this kid has given us all 50% of what he has or whatever % he’s puttin’ it on the field good or bad. That’s what I love about the kid and he doesn’t MAKE EXCUSES!!
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they need to sit him then. No reason to play him if he is not effective.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
TailGaterRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
$$ never stopped Mr Davis from getting players the coaches wanted so quit the whining.
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Mr Davis would be livid if he could see what RegMac and Allen are doing to this team.
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This. More than anything. Win or lose, this is not the Raiders that we see. The Real Oakland Raiders died with Al. What we have is an NFL expansion team. And it will feel even more like it when the powers that be move them to a shiny new stadium in LA.
They destroyed my Raiders in a quarter of a season. And turned them into the Jags.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:33 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
At least DA “ADMITTED” that the Zone scheme is on the evaluation table……They’ve got a bye week. Do what needs to be done.
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Praise Jesus!
Fire Knapp too.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Knapp isn’t going anywhere. The ZBS isn’t going anywhere. Those are set in stone. Expect to see Goodson outrun DMC from this point forward and expect to see DMC possibly traded for draft picks because he is a liability to this offensive scheme. His 2.4 ypc are reminiscent of Justin Fargas. He is worth more to us in future draft picks if they aren’t going to use him in a way to reach his true potential.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Why does today feel so fricken surreal?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
YO ALLEN .. I like u dude.. but if u stick to KNAPP cuz he is ur golfin buddy im gonna have to revaluate u too man.
How hard is it to go to saunders and ask him.. Help a brotha out on offense. How hard is it to like at the film and GAME TAPE OF LAST YEARS OFFENSE?? How hard is it to talk to DMAC ??
October 1st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
The Zone Scheme should be left on the sidewalk in trash bags for pick up in the morning. Toss Knapp in there as well.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Yeah 99 hustling down the field was almost the only positive I saw yesterday. Maybe Degnarlious play too…
October 1st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
They destroyed my Raiders in a quarter of a season. And turned them into the Jags.
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The hyperbole machine has kicked into high gear around here.
Sad that the only thing about the Raiders that some people here liked was Al Davis.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
How many of those 13-13 games with +10 penalties could have been won had not a costly penalty or two not been made?
Thank God the Raiders are seemingly more disciplined when it comes to committing stooooopid penalties that can change the outcomes of games.
Too bad this current coaching staff can’t seem to put together a decent offensive and defensive scheme with the necessary halftime adjustments to make this team competitive.
Getting outclassed 27-0 in the second half yesterday had nothing to do with penalties.
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Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders 31st in total penalties but since 08 team is 13-13 with 10+ in game and 6-11 with 5 or fewer
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite
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Bring the penalties back!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Why does today feel so fricken surreal?
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Because the Pittsburgh game gave us false hope.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
So we should trade our best player in McFadden so that we can keep knapp and the zbs he brought with him?
Smh
October 1st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I’m hoping that Al Saunders was kept, in case of an emergency.
If so, it’s time to break the glass and pull the alarm.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Who cares if McBosworth plays hurt and plays hard, he still doesn’t make any plays. He’s a bust.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
If Allen wants to reminisce and back scratch with Fox, do it on your own damned time. Not on national TV, at midfield, in front of your wounded soldiers with your enemy laughing…
What are the players supposed to think about our integrity as a team when they see that?!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
McBosworth?
Nice.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
palmer your hero
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palmer aint our hero, up until last week i was thinking JC would have been a wash with him but he looked like the pro bowl version last week and this week looked solid again given the circumstances same way rgIII looked last week with no oline help, it’s no different. i’m happy that black qb’s are proving it isn’t that white guys are smarter but rather that circumstances dictate opportunities but to be a racist Raider fan is an oxymoron to me
October 1st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Calm down, Albert Klas
Just because you’re busy crying in your Fruit Loops doesn’t mean I can’t celebrate reaching a major weiner milestone
I’m sure being well under 4″ doesn’t allow you to dream big, but now I can easily score with any babe in a string bikini
Not like I couldn’t before, but now I don’t even need to use words. Just whip the Lawg out and stand back
FEEDING FRENZY N EFFECT
October 1st, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I wonder too why DA is so dam smiley and happy considering his old buddy was still calling blitzes to take down his QB while they were up by 31 pts. in the 4th.
Yeah..good ole John Fox.
Alot of coaches would be in Fox’s face after that asking him wtf he’s trying to do?
What he was trying to do was humiliate and embarrass you…and maybe injure your QB.
That’s ok. We’re the kinder, gentler Raiders now. We just wanna get along with everybody.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:38 pm
words of wisdom = jdb….you sir are a real raider fan
October 1st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
again good job True NATION of keeping it ALL about the RAIDER FOOTBALL.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Bring Art Shell back for Shell 3.0
October 1st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
i think firing oline coach and hiring wylie can save our season, gotta shake it up plus carter and spencer back after the by week will give us hope….
October 1st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Tampa Bay coach John McKay was once asked what he thought of his offensive team’s execution.
He said, “I’m in favor of it”
October 1st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Your defense gives up over 30 every time it goes into a game and all you do is whine about the OC.I don’t say we need a top5 defense,although that would be great,but the defense is a bigger problem than the offense.A few takeaways and stops allowing the offense to get on the field and get into some sort of rhythm sure wouldn’t hurt.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Goooooo lakers!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
If Condo doesn’t get kicked in the head we would be 2-2 right now.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
A friend of mine that lives in North Cal wrote something on here Facebook saying,
“It’s sad that this team isn’t as strong as it’s fanbase”
Couldn’t agree with her more.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Hey Thec,
You seem to be Pro Pryor (As am I), but don’t you think that throwing him in now could destroy him?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
WYLIE SAVES!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Dakota Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
So we should trade our best player in McFadden so that we can keep knapp and the zbs he brought with him?
Smh
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No, they should admit they screwed up and change the system. When does that ever happen? They will force feed us 10 more games of this crap until DMC is injured and the season is lost and THEN they will start to look at experimenting with things. I didn’t say we SHOULD do anything. I said you can possibly expect it.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Darren Mcfadden should be a RAIDER 4 Lyfe!! He is not some byytch. He plays hard for his team! Who remembers those long runs in 2010 and 2011? Who remembers that Jacksonsville game in 2010? That was straight power blocking!!
Darren Mcfadden has more RANK then Dennis Allen imo. Darren should have enough power to fire KNAPP. it would be like
BREAKING NEWS :
Darren McFadden first player in history to fire his Offensive Coordinator. Apparently AL davis put it in DMACS contract that gave him this type of control. Nobody knew till Darren chose to excersize that option today and fire Knapp!
Reggie Mckenzie had zero clue.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
One of the most successful plays Oakland used last year was the ‘wheel route’ with Marcel Reese (pride of Hesperia HS). Have you seen even one ‘wheel route’ with him this year?
Here another stat: According to Cork using Jerry’s grades “Darren McFadden gained 15 yards on his first three carries, a promising start that went nowhere. He finished with 34 yards on 13 carries.”
That means DMac the rest of the way gain 19 yds. on 10 carries for a 1.9 yds. per.
Fire Greg Knapp please.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
beechy dawg tries everything on the market to get bigger. none of it works
October 1st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Breaking News :
Darren Mcfadden also said team was evaluating Coach allen too.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Fire Knapp.
Bring back Hue Jackson to coach the O.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:45 pm
25 years of flying to LA and the Bay and yesterday was the first time I’ve ever switched off a game, never even left early during the shambles of the last decade.
This team no longer has an identity, this isn’t the Raiders, it’s insipid putrid dog turd, and it’s unwatchable and heartbreaking.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
360-the players don’t get a sh!t.They get together and laugh all the time-during and right after games.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
f you wanna sound off, go here.
http://www.raiders.com/footer/contact-us.html
Everyone on the blog shoot an e-mail to Reggie or Amy.
Just shut up and do it. It may get through to someone with a brain. It is possible, you never know. You can do it in 2 minutes.
Just Do It!!!!!!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Brahs, sweet article in the times about Farmer’s Field
Can’t wait until the Silver N Black move back home, still working on my luxury box design
Gonna need an extra large nacho cheese dispenser, shipping in fresh gouda on game days from the Netherlands
But still need enough seating to fit at least 40 Spearmint Rhino shorties
Oh yeah and a huge towel rack to clean off their seats
after the game
PANTY STAIN FEVER, DON’T CATCH IT
October 1st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I bet you watch the Atlanta game.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
We need to evaluate tp and throw away the season.. we beed the top pick. And we need to know if its geno or clowney…
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uh, Javedon Clowney isnt coming out until 2014, at least. Why are people pinning their hopes on college players – if i had a nickel for every “WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS PLAYER” myopia.
we’ll need a lot more than that.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
If McClain’s ankle was bothering him (as some apologists claim), why was he not listed on the official NFL injury report?
http://www.nfl.com/injuries
He’s a chump.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
i know vrybody is now aware of geno smith and ej manual, here are some oither guys i love in college playing qb
Tahj boyd clemson
teddy bridge water luisville
brett hundly ucla
terrance owens toledo
rahkiem cato marshall
munchie legaux cincinati
braxton miller ohio state
this is my watch list
October 1st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Some douche bronco fan was giving me Schyt late in the game about the score, so I just turned to him and said yeah this is bad, but thank god it isn’t a 59-14 loss at home because that would be really embarrassing. That shut him up.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Shoulda put Pryor in yesterday and let the youngster have a crack at some 4th Q progress.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:51 pm
383- But when was the last time you’ve seen a coach do it? I’ve never seen that. Not with a division rival. I think the only time anyone on this blog has ever seen it is with the Harbaugh brothers. And that’s becuase they are brothers. We just took the worst beating from the Broncos in 50 years!! Its the most unprofessional thing a coach can do.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:51 pm
JLofty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Shoulda put Pryor in yesterday and let the youngster have a crack at some 4th Q progress.
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That would be nice. But he wasnt even in uniform.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Tom Cable- in the heat of an argument breaks staff member Randy Hansons jaw
Hue Jackson- doesn’t shakes Todd Haley’s hand for what he perceives as bad sportsmanship, vows revenge
Dennis Allen-after an embarrassing blowout loss sending his team to a tie for last place in the division when greeted by the opposing coach is spotted giggling like a schoolgirl being courted by her boy crush
October 1st, 2012 at 2:53 pm
ABP, maybe that should change…
October 1st, 2012 at 2:54 pm
you can always count on some tard identifying himself as first to post. It’s an achievement.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The way we quit is just sad!!!!
This team has no identity and no heart from the coach right on down.
I aint giving up yet but it will take a miracle to turn it around.
I hope they make some changes and stop running this offense and defense with their egos!
October 1st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
We need Ray Lewis to be our linebackers coach whenever he retires. I would pay hin whatever…we need someone to instill that fire in our players.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DA’s smile kinda reminded me of McClain’s cheezy @$$ smile while he was being handcuffed!
I wonder what goes on in Reggie’s mind while watchin this $h!t?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders release defensive stats from coach film with 221 solo tackles. Opp have only 215 runs/completions that didn’t end in TD
October 1st, 2012 at 2:57 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
We need Ray Lewis to be our linebackers coach whenever he retires. I would pay hin whatever…we need someone to instill that fire in our players.
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I think we need better players.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:57 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Dudes, after a whole week of partying San Diego style, bagging major beach volleyball poon and smoking hella phat doobies, the Beeech Lawg is now measuring a full FOOT!
Hells yeah, mission accomplished, president Bush (shout out to the USA and Lady Liberty)
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now u guys know who the morons are who buy the “increase ur size” pills in desperation for their little weiners. only a retard thinks they can make their unit bigger.
and president bush? yep, he thinks it’s 1992.
October 1st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Get rid of Dennis “McDaniels” Allen
October 1st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
breaking news:
Raider GM Reggie Mckenzie bitc# slaps coach Dennis Allen after reportedly telling Allen to “smile now bit$h!”
October 1st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Brahs, sweet article in the times about Farmer’s Field
Can’t wait until the Silver N Black move back home, still working on my luxury box design
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beeech rubbing everyone’s face in the possibility of the raiders leaving oakland. any more proof needed that he’s a dick?
October 1st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I’m no DA apologist by any means, but dn you guys are takin his grin to heart. Too funny. Those guys are good friends. What did you expect, Dennis to hit Jim over the was with a pillow sack containing a coke can? Such a joke.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
I’m sure being well under 4″ doesn’t allow you to dream big, but now I can easily score with any babe in a string bikini
Not like I couldn’t before, but now I don’t even need to use words. Just whip the Lawg out and stand back
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yep, he’s the type of moron who thinks if he could someday have a big weiner, a girl would talk to him. dude hasn’t a clue how to talk to a real girl.
pathetic chump.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I wish I had ESPN. I want to watch the new 30 for 30 about broke athletes.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:01 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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if we could just play with 11 players instead of 10. (mcclain)
October 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Jim= him.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Beeech, we’re not in the mood for your bull sh*t today. Go f*ck yourself.
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THANK YOU.
that crap was tired in the offseason and its even more annoying now.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Frustrating game, but can’t act shocked at this season’s results. Almost no draft picks, trimming “talent” to get under the cap, rookie HC and DC, and…. Knapp. Like I said a couple of weeks ago, we’re in a rebuilding season, (probably two). We have a very good (but often injured) RB and maybe one or two other players to build a team around. Denarius might become a star (also appears to be injury prone). CP is perhaps a little better than NFL average, but aging. Wheeler has been a pleasant surprise, but only by comparison (think about P. Willis for a moment). Zero players on D who are really better than average and 2LBs and 2CBs that couldn’t start anywhere else.
Sucks, but I think Reg, DA, and JT deserve a decent chance to show us something. The previous eight years of hell have nothing to do with them and they didn’t take over a team with talent (and cap room) like Harbaugh did…
October 1st, 2012 at 3:03 pm
How bad is our lack of defensive game planning during half time as well?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Dr_robert Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:01 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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if we could just play with 11 players instead of 10. (mcclain)
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I think they are just trying to keep spirits up and the lockerroom together. – there was a near fight with Beedles and one of the Raiders late in the game – if they keep losing its going to unravel soon, regardless of “positive attitudes”
October 1st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
The new Cat Power record is pretty good. Any of you guys listen to it yet?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:01 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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if we could just play with 11 players instead of 10. (mcclain)
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They would probably do a hell of a lot better…He is a BUM!
October 1st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I’m no DA apologist by any means, but dn you guys are takin his grin to heart. Too funny. Those guys are good friends. What did you expect, Dennis to hit Jim over the was with a pillow sack containing a coke can? Such a joke.
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The leader needs to show he doesn’t take losses lightly. How can he expect the players to be pissed if he isn’t? The example he is setting is “this is just a game”, which of course it is, but a team has no chance if it thinks this way. No way have i ever been close to being a pro baller but if i’m one on one with my dad and he beats me i’m pissed till a while after, just how it goes
October 1st, 2012 at 3:05 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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This makes me feel like i’m crazy.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
The Raiders are down to one legitimate WR, can’t run the ball, OL regressed as bad as any unit in the league, no halftime adjustments, coach missed replay on their down play in first second half possession &, oh by the way the Raiders Dline is playing abymissibly bad. . .and it”s CP’s fault? He’s the only player doing his job! I’m fine with CP. Can’t complete passes laying on his back. . .get a clue, mystic. . .and other CP haters. /. .
October 1st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Look…it gets even better…
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Seymour: “We’re headed in the right direction.”
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He must be having flash backs…thinks he is still on the pats.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:08 pm
.get a clue, mystic. . .and other CP haters. /. .
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it isn’t that mistic hates cp specifically, it’s that he hates whitey
October 1st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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GREAT! Then I expect to see 60 minutes of tough, hard-nosed football vs. Atlanta. That’s 60 minutes from EVERYBODY, Big Rich.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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Seymour a comedian?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I’m no DA apologist by any means, but dn you guys are takin his grin to heart. Too funny. Those guys are good friends. What did you expect, Dennis to hit Jim over the was with a pillow sack containing a coke can? Such a joke.
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The leader needs to show he doesn’t take losses lightly. How can he expect the players to be pissed if he isn’t? The example he is setting is “this is just a game”, which of course it is, but a team has no chance if it thinks this way. No way have i ever been close to being a pro baller but if i’m one on one with my dad and he beats me i’m pissed till a while after, just how it goes
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I agree. I think a good portion of change comes when fury is unleashed and stress goes higher – you are forced to concentrate – Singletary infused the Niners with it, but couldnt sustain the confidence needed in Alex Smith – but that defense took everything personal, and got much better. with most young coaches , he hasnt been in the league long enough to infuse a philosophy for players to pick up on, and is still forming a personality….
October 1st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
If I had enough money, i’d get cryogenically frozen and have them defrost me right before the Raiders hold up the Lombardi-whenever that may be.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:05 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Surprising. #Raiders DT Richard Seymour actually “encouraged” after watching game film. “We’re so close on so many plays. It’s fixable.”
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This makes me feel like i’m crazy.
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You said it Miami….They must showing them tape from different years so they won’t get down on themselves….It can’t be tape of the game I watched yesterday….that was putrid.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
If your best player is a system rb then you run his system how hard is that to figure out.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
beeechy dawg has tried every penile enlargement gimmick on the market. none of it works. believe me I know
October 1st, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Yo Blog Brahs
Time to cast your vote for Nob Bust’s most spectacular BLOG MELTDOWNS of September
1) Creating a Beeeech Dawg handle – only super gay – and getting smacked clear across the blog
2) Teaming up with Albert Bigelo Klas as “Junior Blog Detectives” and mistakenly claiming I run a party boat out of Long Beach. Then instantly flaming out to great laughter
3) His 1st ever blog PM Party Partol beat down, where he somehow was able to get a clean backhand from every member and left flailing in the night
Can’t wait to see what the “Official Blog Punching Bag” has in store for October!
HOLLA
October 1st, 2012 at 3:13 pm
The leader needs to show he doesn’t take losses lightly. How can he expect the players to be pissed if he isn’t? The example he is setting is “this is just a game”, which of course it is, but a team has no chance if it thinks this way. No way have i ever been close to being a pro baller but if i’m one on one with my dad and he beats me i’m pissed till a while after, just how it goes
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Look I Agree, I played (not pro) and am competitive just as much as the next guy. But a majority if players really dint get that bent out of shape. It’s a check, that’s just how it is. The problem is it doesn’t seem like we have any of those types if players that do care. The ones you see on other teams screaming at others and rallying the troops.
When I first saw that pic it bothered me a little because it was Denver. But then it passed. DA and Fox are good friends and it was his first game HC a team in his old place. I just don’t put that much stock into it. I’ll focus on his record at the end of the season.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
If we finish 5-11, I can see us trading Carson to the Jets for their first round pick.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
“Teams r getting ball out quick to try & tire (the d-line out),” Seymour said. “We’ve got 2 get our hands up & challenge them on the edges.”
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Really? “to try & tire” them out?….They are not trying very hard to do that. You can tell by halftime or very early in the 3rdQ that they are tired.
Not being able to stop even the longest of 3rd downs will do that to you Rich….
October 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
LondonRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:45 pm
25 years of flying to LA and the Bay and yesterday was the first time I’ve ever switched off a game, never even left early during the shambles of the last decade.
This team no longer has an identity, this isn’t the Raiders, it’s insipid putrid dog turd, and it’s unwatchable and heartbreaking.
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Agreed. They need to take that “New Era of Excellence thing down” – its even more humiliating.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
How can these non football people stand behind this sorry brand of football we are seeing,show some knowledge and say Reggie and Allen are messing up a young team that was getting better.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:08 pm
.get a clue, mystic. . .and other CP haters. /. .
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it isn’t that mistic hates cp specifically, it’s that he hates whitey
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you guys are pathetic
palmer is 5-9 as a raider 2-4 in the division with 18 picks in 14 starts.
me pointing this out is racist?
those numbers are good enough for you from a 10 year vet?
cmon fellas, cant you find a better defense than claiming im racist? i didnt make those numbers up, but they do speak for themselves
weak sauce
October 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Beeech, we’re not in the mood for your bull sh*t today. Go f*ck yourself.
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THANK YOU.
that crap was tired in the offseason and its even more annoying now.
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SamBorg the Uber Goober
You’ve never been quite the same since your devastating blog rap-off defeat
Just keepin’ it real
October 1st, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Yo Blog Brahs
Time to cast your vote for Nob Bust’s most spectacular BLOG MELTDOWNS of September
1) Creating a Beeeech Dawg handle – only super gay – and getting smacked clear across the blog
2) Teaming up with Albert Bigelo Klas as “Junior Blog Detectives” and mistakenly claiming I run a party boat out of Long Beach. Then instantly flaming out to great laughter
3) His 1st ever blog PM Party Partol beat down, where he somehow was able to get a clean backhand from every member and left flailing in the night
Can’t wait to see what the “Official Blog Punching Bag” has in store for October!
HOLLA
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stupid ass cunt
October 1st, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Beeech, we’re not in the mood for your bull sh*t today. Go f*ck yourself.
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THANK YOU.
that crap was tired in the offseason and its even more annoying now.
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SamBorg the Uber Goober
You’ve never been quite the same since your devastating blog rap-off defeat
Just keepin’ it real
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Your a real idiot. Lose this act.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
It seems like we have always had issues getting off the field on 3rd down…I can’t remember the last DEF that did a good job at that. And I have been a Fan of this Org for 35 years. I know there was a time…that is what 10 years of losing will do to you i guess.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I will say this.. Why is chewka not playing CB.. and huff is?
Huff should be at saftey now. Chewka needs to be playing.
why do we have all DT’s playing on the line. too slow. Carter hopefully helps our edge rush. Wee neeed a btter MLB
October 1st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Taking online AB1825 course. Might fall asleep at any moment…
October 1st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
fortunately for Da Raiduhs they can now relax and watch a fascinating bunch of rookies and cast-offs ( the Oaktown Athletics) do whatever they can to compete for the prize.
and then when the A’s run ends, Da Raiduhs can collect their paychecks and wait for the Dec 21 cosmic convergence.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I will say this.. Why is chewka not playing CB.. and huff is?
Huff should be at saftey now. Chewka needs to be playing.
why do we have all DT’s playing on the line. too slow. Carter hopefully helps our edge rush. Wee neeed a btter MLB
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Its a foregone conclusion some change is coming, but its interesting to see if the team can rally around coaching/play-calling that is obviously not working
October 1st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
If we finish 5-11, I can see us trading Carson to the Jets for their first round pick.
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The only person dumb enough to give Raiders a #1 for Palmer is Hue.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Beeech Dawg,
You are sooooo full of crappola.
1. There is no Rasta Ganja that played in SD recently. I know that for a fact.
2. There is no Wrecks n Effects posted to your name or ownership. The real Wrecks n Effects out of NYC would sue you in a heartbeat for using their copywrited name, wipe you financially, and enjoin you from using their name.
3. You don’t reside in a penthouse suite at the Ritz-Carlton in MDR. I know that for a fact.
4. You don’t have the paper to buy a luxury suite in the new stadium being proposed.
5. You don’t have a party boat in MDR.
6. You don’t have a cock 12 inches in length.
7. You don’t bed down strippers which by current count would be in the thousands, since you are still alive, presumably HIV and hepatitis C free, without cirrhosis of the liver, complete with cancerous lesions.
8. You DO have an excellent imagination.
9. If everything you claim is true why haven’t you ever shown yourself?
We put up with your nonsense because you are mildly humorous sometimes.
Please go away for awhile till we process this latest loss, and we might like you better.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Uh Oh, SamBorg is getting ready to start babbling in Klingon! One of his classic dweeb-out moves
Yo Brahs, Lake Show media day was off the chizzle, got a live report from some of my boyz in the Certified Platinum Posse
Guess Jody Meeks tried on some of my new fragrance CERTIFIED PLATINUM by BEEECH DAWG and instantly hit a 3
That’s just how they do in the El (Segundo, that is)
LEFT MY WALLET I GOTS GOTS 2 GET IT
October 1st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
“No. 1: I want my guy,” McKenzie said. “My approach is old school. … We will win championships here.”
Food for thought……..
October 1st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I will say this.. Why is chewka not playing CB.. and huff is?
Huff should be at saftey now. Chewka needs to be playing.
why do we have all DT’s playing on the line. too slow. Carter hopefully helps our edge rush. Wee neeed a btter MLB
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Agreed!…Checkwa must be really bad. He has not even gotten to sniff at any playing time since he got hurt last year. And I say put in goethel He can’t be much worse..and at least he will try…just putting out some effort will make him better than romac
October 1st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
don’t you all gang up on my beechy. otherwise I will go tell
October 1st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
cmon fellas, cant you find a better defense than claiming im racist? i didnt make those numbers up, but they do speak for themselves
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you’ve lost a lot of credibility. cam is the greatest when he wins awful when he loses he wins again and he’s destined to be the best ever. You tell us how you were right on RGIII when everybody new the guy was a star hence the advertising campaigns before his first pro game. You tell us last week that CP turned the corner but he’s a loser this week when I guarantee Aaron Rodgers or RGIII lose the game as well. You make it seem like you’re always right and so we should trust you on palmer but you touted troy smith and mike vick. I’m Mexican-American and i’d love to see Mark Sanchez to succeed because of he’s Mexican-American (although not against us) but i’m not gna lie to you and say he’s gonna be great. Why no touts of other ultra athletic young qbs Andrew Luck Ryan Tannehill Christian Ponder? lemme guess why?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Checkwa?? He’s the worst one out there, even if he is on the practice squad.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
John David Booty Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
TailGaterRaider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
$$ never stopped Mr Davis from getting players the coaches wanted so quit the whining.
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Mr Davis would be livid if he could see what RegMac and Allen are doing to this team.
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This. More than anything. Win or lose, this is not the Raiders that we see. The Real Oakland Raiders died with Al. What we have is an NFL expansion team. And it will feel even more like it when the powers that be move them to a shiny new stadium in LA.
They destroyed my Raiders in a quarter of a season. And turned them into the Jags.
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Yep. The master plan of Davis to get that new stadium in LA and sell half of the team to the AEG group.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
morilla Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I’m no DA apologist by any means, but dn you guys are takin his grin to heart. Too funny. Those guys are good friends. What did you expect, Dennis to hit Jim over the was with a pillow sack containing a coke can? Such a joke.
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Leaders should lead from the front. It wasn’t just a grin, it was the Head Coach of the Raiders smiling and having a great time after the worst lost to the Broncos in 50 years. If Fox and Allen were such good friends then why was Fox calling blitzes in the 4th Quarter? If Allen doesn’t care about winning in Oakland why should his staff? Why should his players? The joke is that this guy has a job.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Palmer called most of the Steelers game at the line and Knapp called yesterdays game. You can directly attribute our lack of offense in our 3 LOSSES to Knapp’s playcalling.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Uh Oh, SamBorg is getting ready to start babbling in Klingon! One of his classic dweeb-out moves
Yo Brahs, Lake Show media day was off the chizzle, got a live report from some of my boyz in the Certified Platinum Posse
Guess Jody Meeks tried on some of my new fragrance CERTIFIED PLATINUM by BEEECH DAWG and instantly hit a 3
That’s just how they do in the El (Segundo, that is)
LEFT MY WALLET I GOTS GOTS 2 GET IT
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“8. You DO have an excellent imagination.”
Putrid imagination – and wtf is this rap persona about?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Raiders 1st round pick will be QB Geno Smith or OLB/DE Jarvis Jones or they will trade down!
October 1st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Fire knapp and hoffman….
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please dont, i want clowney from SC
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2nd that
October 1st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
If we finish 5-11, I can see us trading Carson to the Jets for their first round pick.
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The only person dumb enough to give Raiders a #1 for Palmer is Hue.
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Smart enough to go 8-8.
Will D.A. be good enough to match that?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
C2E Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Nyraider Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Fire knapp and hoffman….
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please dont, i want clowney from SC
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2nd that
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just in case EVERYBODY doesnt know who the f$%k this guy is.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119316&draftyear=2015&genpos=DE
October 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
sigh
South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney would be a top 10 pick this year IF HE WAS ELIGIBLE. By the end of next year (2013), the 6-6, 256 pound pass rusher could prove a legitimate contender to be the No. 1 overall selection. – Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
could we like – move on, now?
October 1st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think this is the earliest in the season to discuss the next year’s draft picks…very sad.
Here’s to the “New Era of Excrement.” Bargain basement GM, Bargain basement Coaching Staff, Bargain basement Free Agents…basement it is.
October 1st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RunN2DaNite83 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
“No. 1: I want my guy,” McKenzie said. “My approach is old school. … We will win championships here.”
Food for thought……..
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He sounds so sure of himself, you’d almost be compelled to believe him if not for the moves he’s made and the fact he managed to take an 8-8 team which was a defensive stop away from winning the division and quickly turned them into the worst team in football.
October 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
F-
October 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RunN2DaNite83 Says:
October 1st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
“No. 1: I want my guy,” McKenzie said. “My approach is old school. … We will win championships here.”
Food for thought……..
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He sounds so sure of himself, you’d almost be compelled to believe him if not for the moves he’s made and the fact he managed to take an 8-8 team which was a defensive stop away from winning the division and quickly turned them into the worst team in football.
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DJ Johnny—-
Too bad this statement was after he fired Hue, and not prior to his hiring and true agenda sharing (HC, OC, & DC) all suspect. Things to come are aligned with this foolishness.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:25 am
Sounds like Spuds is running out of time as well as Allen and say goodbye to Crybaby Palmer; What a waste period!! This team is stuck in loser mode. I bet Chucky and HueJax are laughing all over the place!! I’m very sure that Mark Davis has deep pockets? Hire another reject or bring back Chucky and Hue Jackson in some sort of capacity to help us out. So far thiis 2012 version sucks, period!!!