DHB on the field, catching passes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The most notable sight at Raiders practice Tuesday was the sight of Darrius Heyward-Bey on the field, catching passes and looking very much like a receiver who will be cleared by the time play resumes following the bye week.
Heyward-Bey, knocked unconscious Sept. 23 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, was running and catching through warmups and drills. It is not known if Heyward-Bey has been cleared for contact and coach Dennis Allen is unavailable to the media Tuesday.
The Raiders practice Tuesday and Wednesday, then are off through Sunday.
Players who were not at practice Tuesday included tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) and corneback Shawntae Spencer (knee), both of whom are out indefinitely.
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October 2nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Have faith Nation.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Glad I haven’t written off the whole season after week 4 like so many of the other Raiders ‘fans’.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Spree for 3!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Shek Quatro!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
1029.bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
1025.RaiderDanny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Huff is terrible! Branch is Terrible! McClain gone! Seymoure retire!fire all CBs except Chimdi! Only one of McKenzies draft picks made it on the field? Coaches gone! Saunders and Tarver give another year?
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1 of his 5 picks made the field, 20%. What about the undrafted rookie in Streater, does he get credit there? Criner would have seen some action if not for injury, which would jump him up to 40%. Show me how many GMs in the NFL have a higher success rate of draft picks LATER than 96 getting on the field. These guys are supposed to be depth players. You shouldn’t be complaining about that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I got 5 on it!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
2012 –> (Warrick) Dunn
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
YO LAKER FANS STAND UP N REPRESENT
Huge news out of Purple N Gold camp
The 16-time world champs just signed Chris Douglas-Roberts! Homie was straight up SWIZZLE at Memphis.
Sharpened his game over in Italy, now ready to drop Js for the one and only Bench Mob, holla
No coincidence great news comes in bunches, this coincides with the Beeech Lawg reaching a full foot in length yesterday
Gonna celebrate with a free lap dance over at Spearmint Rhino, you know that lunch buffet be POPPIN’
WRECKS N FULL EFFECT 2008
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Why isn’t JC starting in the NFL? A. No one wants his as their starter
Would other NFL teams sign/trade for CP to be their starter? A. Yes
The evaluators aren’t always right, but based on the answer to these two questions the pro’s think you’re wrong about JC v CP
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Wiz was a beast at G last year.
Played well at C 2.
Haven’t looked at any films again, but he seems to be struggling in this zone blocking system.
Sure he’s missed plenty of reps, but Wiz is more than capable of catching up.
We need to include some power blocking plays for DMAC.
If we can’t get him going we’re fked!
Period!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
All of my fantasy teams need DMC to get going ASAP.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Tony Romo throws 5 picks (two pick-sixes) in an ugly LOSS at home on national TV and all I hear about is the huge contract extension he’s going to sign after the season. Amazing.
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Really? Thats all you hear about? WTF sports channel you watchin? He has ben getting alot of heat today and so is there HC.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
WOW, DHB on the FIELD!!!!!!!!!!Oh MY
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I must admit…
The Oakland A’s are really taking away some of the pain (Raider losses)
I’m proud of the organization.
Go A’s! (I want the division!)
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
WYLIE’NG OUT!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
A little early to be blogging, eh KrappyRat?
Usually you’re just waking up in time to take your lunchtime nap.
Slow it down, old goat, before you bump your head and forget how to get to the gym. Again.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
A little early to be blogging, eh KrappyRat?
Usually you’re just waking up in time to take your lunchtime nap.
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Go look for attention somewhere else, Handfkr.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Firing Knapp already would look bad….quietly allowing Saunders to take over playcalling would be the right move.
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Look bad ? To who ?
Would look pretty good to me.
Would look like there’s a willingness to admit a mistake and take corrective action.
Would look like there’s some accountability and a desire to get better.
Please don’t tell me you’re going to buy into the ‘firing Krapp now will turn off future potential hires or applicants’ nonsense.
Trust me, there will be no shortage of eager, qualified applicants that will line up for the job when Krapp is kicked to the curb.
Professionals understand that people get fired. They realize their jobs are always on the line and that if they don’t do well – they get fired.
You think that other professionals can’t see that Krapp is failing ?
They’re going to say ‘Man, Krapp got a raw deal in Oakland. I’d never work there’ ?
Balderdash.
These lame excuses and rationalizations to keep a loser like Krapp around is precisely what this organization should avoid.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
KrappyRat, what’s this news I hear about another free trip to Switzerland?
KrappyWife must’ve gotten a nice raise to afford that one. Man, you never seem to get sick of freeloading off the poor old girl.
Sorry old fool, gots to keep it real
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Well if you ask me its Palmer’s fault that we have a first year GM HC OC that just gutted a franchise that was a perennial loser for the last 10 years.
Now we have a 32nd ranked defense with the worst special teams we have ever seen and an offensive line that cannot pass block or open holes for our RB.
And then there are the demented fans who are saying that the resolution is to put in the 3rd string rookie at QB…..makes for a long season
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I was kinda surprised to read the tweet from DA, that the ZBS is on the table. I doubt it though.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Brahs, just checking out some sweet pictures from Laker media day while I puff this spliff
I’m guessing we’ll start Hill at the 5 unless Superman makes it back for the opener
There’s talk Gasol will slide over to center and Jamison will rock the 4, but I’d rather him lead the Bench Mob
Blake / Duhon
Meeks
Jamison
Hill
Eubanks / Clark
AH HELLZ YEAH HOLLA
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Dennis Allen made a critical mistake by not challenging that sideline pass to Moore in the 3rd quarter. It was 3rd down and we could have had a decent drive going but everything spiraled downhill from that point.
The only excuse is he was afraid to lose the challenge. From what I saw DMoore was clearly beyond the marker when he rolled out of bounds..it was a horrible spot and SOMEONE needed to either tell DA or DA himself should have known to challenge that.
There was 22 left on the play clock when we punted..plenty of time to wait until the coaches got a good look to se if it was worth the challenge, but noooooo….DA rushed the punting team out there as if he couldn’t wait to give the ball back to Manning.
Would it have changed the outcome? Probably not, as our defense was a sieve and couldn’t stop jack squat, but if that drive continues with the momentum we had from the 1st half and we take the lead right there? Who knows how it would have affected things.
The postgame analysts agreed that it was a CRITICAL no challenge and were befuddled as to why DA did not challenge the spot.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
“Inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Why isn’t JC starting in the NFL? A. No one wants his as their starter
Would other NFL teams sign/trade for CP to be their starter? A. Yes
The evaluators aren’t always right, but based on the answer to these two questions the pro’s think you’re wrong about JC v CP”
Why people cant grasp that simple concept is beyond me there must be something blinding their vision like racism or hate.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@DJ Johnny
True…but coaches rely on the people in the booth to tell him to go for it or not. Wonder who it was?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Why people cant grasp that simple concept is beyond me there must be something blinding their vision like racism or hate.
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You talking about the Hue haters or JC haters?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
He was told it was inconclusive from upstairs.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
The only excuse is he was afraid to lose the challenge. From what I saw DMoore was clearly beyond the marker when he rolled out of bounds..it was a horrible spot and SOMEONE needed to either tell DA or DA himself should have known to challenge that.
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DA had a really good view of the play as did alot of Raider players, it happened right in front of them on the sideline, I saw the players yellin at the refs and DA pointing and sayin somethin, but it was obvious to me that it was a first down not sure WTF DA saw
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
fuc the lakers…NATION
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Glad to hear DHB is back- we need all the help we can get
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Ttarver needs to get some thrown under the bus action. his and DA’s D is sucking it up.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
“You talking about the Hue haters or JC haters?
I am talking to the Palmer haters.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DHB <—-Manned up. Good shot young Mister.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
DA said he was down field and didn’t have that great of a view.He was told by people upstairs the replay was inconclusive.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
The DCO and Hc knew what we had during OTA’s.
The D looks about as bad as bresh D, only diff is they play it close in the first half, then get blown out in the second.
DA, and TARVER not only need to put a straight jacket on nipp, they need to fix this D.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
DA said he was down field and didn’t have that great of a view.He was told by people upstairs the replay was inconclusive.
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i know phil simms said it was a 1st, but looked like Moore’s legs were across but the ball wasn’t, am I wrong?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Have you guys seen this PFT article?
“The Raiders have given up 22, 35, 31 and 37 points in each of their four games, only one of which they won.
That’s an average of 31.2 per game, 28th in the league.
But Raiders defensive end Richard Seymour wasn’t discouraged by what he saw when he watched the film of the Broncos’ 37-6 strafing of his team.”
Of course Seymour is not discouraged by what he saw he is getting paid a million dollars a game why would he care!
Just chaps my hide!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
the swining A’s can win the div and possible home field through out.
What are the tie breakers for the A’s vs yanks, and bmore???
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
‘We can’t fire the OC during the season, it’s not realistic. Like it or not Krapp is here for the remainder of the year’
‘We can’t fire Knapp. It wouldn’t look good. Let’s just quietly strip him of his duties’
Seriously ?
Is this what we’ve been reduced to ?
Fearful to make a move ?
Too worried about what some people might think to fire a chump like Krapp ?
Might as well just give up. We’re doomed.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Are this weeks power rankings out?
I am keeping my fingers crossed that we moved up a little
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Thec
Think that the team looked good in practice with the First Team O v. First Team D?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
The postgame analysts agreed that it was a CRITICAL no challenge and were befuddled as to why DA did not challenge the spot.
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Saunders tells DA to challenge plays or not. From all the replays I saw there was no way they overturned that call.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
YO LAKER NATION N FULL EFFECT
Brahs, just got word from the Cerified Platinum Posse that Superman’s backyard hot tub is almost complete and its big enough for laps
Can’t wait to check it out, you know the Moet Chandon will be HELLA FLOWIN’
Championship banner #17 gettin’ ready to fly high, shout out to Big Game James
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
That’s an average of 31.2 per game, 28th in the league.
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Do not just throw Knapp under the bus…
DA and Tarver have some splanning to do.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
fuc the Lakers….
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Why isn’t JC starting in the NFL? A. No one wants his as their starter
Would other NFL teams sign/trade for CP to be their starter? A. Yes
The evaluators aren’t always right, but based on the answer to these two questions the pro’s think you’re wrong about JC v CP
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Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Well if you ask me its Palmer’s fault that we have a first year GM HC OC that just gutted a franchise that was a perennial loser for the last 10 years.
Now we have a 32nd ranked defense with the worst special teams we have ever seen and an offensive line that cannot pass block or open holes for our RB.
And then there are the demented fans who are saying that the resolution is to put in the 3rd string rookie at QB…..makes for a long season
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Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
“You talking about the Hue haters or JC haters?
I am talking to the Palmer haters.
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easy fellas I didnt write the article, but i agree with what the writer had to say 100%
palmer is not a franchise qb, (let alone the elite qb that you both said he was.
he is a locker room cancer diva and quitter, see his on field temper tantrums while being blown out in games, and throwing in the towle to go eat cheetos shortly after his team agreed to pay him a huge salary
we were better last year at 4-2 than we are now right?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
They don’t have the benefit of multiple replays and the time it takes to review all of them.They must make a snap decision and with no proof to back them up they decided it shouldn’t be challenged at that time.It came from upstairs.BTW,the man upstairs is Sanders.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Of course Seymour is not discouraged by what he saw he is getting paid a million dollars a game why would he care!
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That’s your real problem isn’t it? Can’t stand to see any black players make money.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Thec,the A’s win all tie breakers against the Yankees and the O’s.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Thec
Think that the team looked good in practice with the First Team O v. First Team D?
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The Semi’s on this blog were saying e do not have a RDE. the so called Pro’s like DA, and Tarver could not figure that out?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Is this what we’ve been reduced to ?
Fearful to make a move ?
Too worried about what some people might think to fire a chump like Krapp ?
Might as well just give up. We’re doomed.
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We aren’t firing Knapp after 4 weeks, particularly when his offense beat pittsburg. Dmac wasn’t successful against Denver because he only got 11 carries. He only got 11 carries because we were down 2 scores about 3 minutes into the second half. When your offense is forced to be 1 dimensional it will fail 90% of the time.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Thec,the A’s win all tie breakers against the Yankees and the O’s.
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So we could be looking at homefield through out after we sweep the taxens….Awesome…
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Have faith Nation.
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Maybe when I start seeing some pulling gaurds, and double team & second level blocking etc..
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Glad I haven’t written off the whole season after week 4 like so many of the other Raiders ‘fans’.
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“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein
I haven’t written the season off yet. But I and all rational people realize that if the Raiders coaching staff don’t pull their heads out of their butts and make some serious adjustments, they are all clinically INSANE and this season will be over real soon.
Go Oakland A’s. They are playing like Champions unlike my other team the Raiders.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
True Knapp is not going anywhere however, he can be releived of at least play calling duties. Furthermore, with ASUANDERS in the building, we can re incorporate some of his playbook.
f knapp
f rivers and manning
f the lakers
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Thec you big baby stop your whining, you’ve gotten your girl tears all over the blog
The time is NOW tol represent the Lake Show before we hang #17, don’t wanna jump on the bandwagon too late
Yo, just got some special ordered Purple N Gold XXXL jock straps from Bike, holla
It’ll accentuate my now full 1 ft. Beeeech Lawg and give Showtime mo fresh swerve
FROM THE HAND OF A MAN NAMED AC GREEN
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
we were better last year at 4-2 than we are now right?
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You have to be kidding me. The reason we are failing now is because of JC???
I say the reason we suck this year is because Bo Jackson broke his hip.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Thec,only if we have a better record than the Yankees.They will get home field by having a better record.We get home field if we are tied record wise.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Dmac wasn’t successful against Denver because he only got 11 carries. He only got 11 carries because we were down 2 scores about 3 minutes into the second half. When your offense is forced to be 1 dimensional it will fail 90% of the time.
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BULLSHEET
They couldn’t convert 3rd downs
Couldn’t score in the Red Zone
Couldn’t run the Ball
Dominated in the Time of posession
Dominated in 1st downs
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I haven’t written the season off yet. But I and all rational people realize that if the Raiders coaching staff don’t pull their heads out of their butts and make some serious adjustments, they are all clinically INSANE and this season will be over real soon
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What magic bullets are they going to throw in there to make us a playoff contender? What magic adjustments do they make right now to make us better. Enlighten me.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Thec,only if we have a better record than the Yankees.They will get home field by having a better record.We get home field if we are tied record wise.
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YEah i got that Left, thats what I am hoping is that we are tied.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Thec,the A’s win all tie breakers against the Yankees and the O’s.
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So we could be looking at homefield through out after we sweep the taxens….Awesome…
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I’m not confident about the sweep considering the fact that Travis Blackley is starting tonight. The last time he took the mound, he spotted the Rangers 5 quick, first inning points and got yanked in the second.smh
Injuries to McCarthy and Anderson are killing us right now. We would have already had this division wrapped up!
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
BULLSHEET
They couldn’t convert 3rd downs
Couldn’t score in the Red Zone
Couldn’t run the Ball
Dominated in the Time of posession
Dominated in 1st downs
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Umm how does any of what you said make what I said bullsh1t?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Bcz-I think the reason we suck this year is Al traded Stabler and Casper to Houston.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Thec you big baby stop your whining, you’ve gotten your girl tears all over the blog
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hahahaha “girl tears”…..lol
Coming form a so called adult who post ridiculous drivel….Yeah okay, mix in a footbal take once in a while with ya childish rsants that most people including my self by pass with frequent regularity.
Oh yeah fuc the lakers
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
let alone the elite qb that you both said he was
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WAS elite i’ve said, showed signs last two games, let’s get that straight. And the argument with me and you is you think CP is the problem and no i don’t think he’s the problem i think he’s carried us to our only win he along with Phillip Wheeler and a few others are the only one’s fighting for 60 minutes showing real leadership. The CP JC debate continues and i haven’t declared a winner yet because Palmer if healthy has a lotta games left with the Raiders but no way we win v pitt with JC as qb as CP carried us offensively to the heights JC has never touched. Don’t give me STATS on a good JC game because i’ve seen them all while he’s been a Raider and although his buff performance was impressive we lost, and although the KC performance was impressive FORD get’s the most accolades for that victory
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
64.lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Bcz-I think the reason we suck this year is Al traded Stabler and Casper to Houston.
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Nope. It’s cuz we didn’t keep the name Señors
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
BULLSHEET
They couldn’t convert 3rd downs
Couldn’t score in the Red Zone
Couldn’t run the Ball
Dominated in the Time of posession
Dominated in 1st downs
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Umm how does any of what you said make what I said bullsh1t?
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Knapp is on the hot seat and so is Allen. They are revisiting the entire thing starting with the coaches and schemes, followed by the players. The zone blocking scheme and Knapp’s play calling is being revisited as we speak.
Didn’t you watch the presser yesterday?
This is why you are full of sh*t.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I haven’t written the season off yet. But I and all rational people realize that if the Raiders coaching staff don’t pull their heads out of their butts and make some serious adjustments, they are all clinically INSANE and this season will be over real soon
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What magic bullets are they going to throw in there to make us a playoff contender? What magic adjustments do they make right now to make us better. Enlighten me.
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I guess you will have to watch the remaining 12 games and find out for yourself – just like a real fan.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Mistic1
C’Mon who wrote the article you are quoting? The senior writer for the “Bleacher Report.” You couldn’t find a better article blasting Palmer?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
OH,yea,forgot that important fact.LOL
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
how come Taiwan JOnes isn’t being used as runnig back? man does this team miss WImbley and Bush.
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Thec, we all know you haven’t ever skipped one of my amazing posts, goober
Obviously it’s the reason you sign on every morning, holla
Go ahead and scribble fuc the lakers all you want, its not going to stop you from soiling your panties when we hang #17
That’s world championships, whut whut
TAKIN THIS JAM BACK ‘74
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dmac wasn’t successful against Denver because he only got 11 carries. He only got 11 carries because we were down 2 scores about 3 minutes into the second half. When your offense is forced to be 1 dimensional it will fail 90% of the time.
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BULLSHEET
They couldn’t convert 3rd downs
Couldn’t score in the Red Zone
Couldn’t run the Ball
Dominated in the Time of posession
Dominated in 1st downs
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3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Palmer has 12 games left with the Raiders. I don’t think we resign him after the year. Not a knock on him at all, but if we are 4-12 or worse, we are going to look for a franchise QB in the draft, versus paying Palmer 10+ mill per year
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
we were better last year at 4-2 than we are now right?
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You have to be kidding me. The reason we are failing now is because of JC???
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I didnt say that, but the evidence is pointing that way. from 4-2 and the division lead to 1-3 in the cellar and nfl laughing stock.
The palmer trade isnt the only reason but it is a major reason. he has not produced the wins or the unstoppable offense with dmac and moore like everyone( except me) said he would. he has 18 picks in just 14 starts, he has no trade value at this point, so we are stuck with him. The terms that brought him here are ridiculously unfavorable for the raiders, and handicapped our draft.
Palmer is a major part of the problem sadly
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
raiderdav Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
how come Taiwan JOnes isn’t being used as runnig back? man does this team miss WImbley and Bush.
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Greg Knapp
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Knapp is on the hot seat and so is Allen. They are revisiting the entire thing starting with the coaches and schemes, followed by the players. The zone blocking scheme and Knapp’s play calling is being revisited as we speak.
Didn’t you watch the presser yesterday?
This is why you are full of sh*t.
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Oh, they said today that DMacs effectiveness had nothing to do with his limited carries thus far? Our secondary being so bad that we are forced to pass the entire second half isn’t playing into it at all?
Sure thing dude.
Dennis Allen is NOT on the hotseat. That would imply that he is going to be fired. I will bet you anything you want, anything, that Dennis Allen is NOT fired after this season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Can we keep the raiders off the field the A’s actually need a nice field for thier playoff run. Raiders dont want to play football anyway, the players only care about thier game checks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
99 162 1,081 61.1 6.67 5 64 2 1 63.1 86.0
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Seems ok to me. considering we have no running game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
The terms that brought him here are ridiculously unfavorable for the raiders, and handicapped our draft.
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So Hue screwed us?
Also ” he has not produced the wins or the unstoppable offense with dmac and moore like everyone( except me).”
C’Mon really? The thought was that we would have a top 10 running game, not last in the league. I know you think that Palmer is the biggest problem with the running game and has nothing to do with the offensive line…
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
let alone the elite qb that you both said he was
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WAS elite i’ve said, showed signs last two games, let’s get that straight. And the argument with me and you is you think CP is the problem and no i don’t think he’s the problem i think he’s carried us to our only win
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the man is 5-9 as a starter bra, winning just doesnt seem to be what he does. he couldnt do it with the bungles even thought he had t.o and housh and ocho and a solid defense on a few occasions. He isnt doing it here even with moore and dmac and a full off season
no excuses he isnt cutting the mustard, plain and simple oh did i mention 18 picks in only 14 starts?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Yup. All Palmers fault… meanwhile back in reality… Jason Campbell is holding Cutlers clipboard. He was sought out by NOBODY as a starter. He was sought out by NOBODY to even COMPETE for starting gig.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
come to think about it, if JC was our qb this year wow the blowouts would be worse. no one besides Moore is getting any real seperation while CP is throwing in tight windows throws of which you know very well JC would have thrown out of bounds or taken an ran with. I like JC and he eventually became a good game manager and leader of the best squad we’ve had in years but we weren’t going anywhere with the D we had last year
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Of course Seymour is not discouraged by what he saw he is getting paid a million dollars a game why would he care!
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That’s your real problem isn’t it? Can’t stand to see any black players make money.
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KK Please get off the race stuff. I dare say that 85% of the NFL players are black. That’s neither a good thing nor a bad thing. It’s because they happen to be the best athletes for the job at hand. What a player makes should be and mostly is based on what they bring to the table, NOT their skin color.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
How the hell do the A’s go out and play with a massive hangover from all that champagne and bud lite they was guzzling last nite? Those baseball guys sure like their premature celebrations….
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Kudo’s to all the NATION Semi’s that were against the hiring of KNAPP.
Moreover, some of the venom should be directed at DA, and Tarver whos defense will give up lots of points in the second half of games.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
winning just doesnt seem to be what he does. he couldnt do it with the bungles
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he was considered one of the top 5 qb’s in league year in and year out till the injury and you can’t deny that fact. JC’s a backup in this league Carsons a starter debate over. You’re like the guy in the rap battle that get’s repeadetly waxed but you keep getting back on the mic while everyone boos and eventually the crowd walks away
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
The terms that brought him here are ridiculously unfavorable for the raiders, and handicapped our draft.
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So Hue screwed us?
Also ” he has not produced the wins or the unstoppable offense with dmac and moore like everyone( except me).”
C’Mon really? The thought was that we would have a top 10 running game, not last in the league. I know you think that Palmer is the biggest problem with the running game and has nothing to do with the offensive line…
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yes Hue screwed us and himself, the bungles are laugjhing thier asses off with thier young signal caller & our draft picks. What did we get? 5-9 18 picks in 14 starts
I know you and 99% of the rest made the excuse the palmer needed dmac and moore then we would be light years ahead of the team we had last year.
well it hasnt happend we have scored 13-14 and 6 in the losses, we are one of the worst 3rd down teams in football and that is where the qb makes his living.
sorry the palmer trade is shaping up to be a major flop, just short of herschel walker
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
They weren’t drinking it,they were spraying it everywhere.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Still wondering whether or not Wiz saw the writing on the wall with this O-line. I wouldn’t blame him for cutting out if Knapp and Pollack were being stubborn about forcing the system on those players.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Dennis Allen is NOT on the hotseat. That would imply that he is going to be fired. I will bet you anything you want, anything, that Dennis Allen is NOT fired after this season.
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He gets 3 years, to get hiz head outta hiz azz.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
I have a prolem, with the Coaching staff looking like Xmas Eve on the sideline while this team looks like hot garbage on the field! While know stress on Knapp as we go 4 an out,again! Why DA aint yelling at ANYONE or EVERYONE! I have a problem with this!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Dennis Allen is NOT on the hotseat. That would imply that he is going to be fired. I will bet you anything you want, anything, that Dennis Allen is NOT fired after this season.
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I didn’t say he would be fired. I said he is on the hot seat…Meaning intense scrutiny.
At he beginning of the season Reggie Mckenzie made a comment that he was intent on finding “His guy” because ultimately he was going to be held accountable for how the Raiders performed.
Allen realizes that he is under intense scrutiny from Mckenzie, the fan base, the media, and even his players who he is desperately trying to get to continue to BUY IN to what he is preaching. It’s hard to keep players motivated and believing in you when they are getting embarrassed week after week on TV.
Dennis Allen is on the hot seat and so is Knapp. Allen has a longer leash than others, but from hearing him talk yesterday, he made it very clear, that some serious changes and adjustments are on the horizon.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
“Inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
let alone the elite qb that you both said he was
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WAS elite i’ve said, showed signs last two games, let’s get that straight. And the argument with me and you is you think CP is the problem and no i don’t think he’s the problem i think he’s carried us to our only win he along with Phillip Wheeler and a few others are the only one’s fighting for 60 minutes showing real leadership. The CP JC debate continues and i haven’t declared a winner yet because Palmer if healthy has a lotta games left with the Raiders but no way we win v pitt with JC as qb as CP carried us offensively to the heights JC has never touched. Don’t give me STATS on a good JC game because i’ve seen them all while he’s been a Raider and although his buff performance was impressive we lost, and although the KC performance was impressive FORD get’s the most accolades for that victory”
I have to agree with this 100% there are a handful of guys on this team that are giving 100% busting ass and hitting hard. Palmer is one of them the guy has come in here and not complained one bit taken the responsibility of the losses been a good soldier.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
They weren’t drinking it,they were spraying it everywhere.
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Yep….
The “smart atheletes” limit the consuption, if they even drink at all.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Also, Reggie should have picked up Jonathan Grimes off the Texans’ practice squad. Jets already got him, but we’re so thin at RB and the guy obviously knows how to run ZBS.
Suppose it doesn’t matter if our line can’t block.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Yup. All Palmers fault… meanwhile back in reality… Jason Campbell is holding Cutlers clipboard. He was sought out by NOBODY as a starter. He was sought out by NOBODY to even COMPETE for starting gig.
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
come to think about it, if JC was our qb this year wow the blowouts would be worse. no one besides Moore is getting any real seperation while CP is throwing in tight windows throws of which you know very well JC would have thrown out of bounds or taken an ran with. I like JC and he eventually became a good game manager and leader of the best squad we’ve had in years but we weren’t going anywhere with the D we had last year
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who the hell cares about jc?
but since you brought it up the jc led 4-2 raiders were hands down the best team and with the best qb we have had since gannon. 12-7 undefeated in the division and number one in the division. the team has gone backwards ever since, 5-9 yes backwards
That team was far far far better than what palmer has led.
how can this be argued?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
In 4 games this year: Aaron Rodgers,Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Phil Rivers, Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, Josh Freeman, Andy Dalton, Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, Drew Brees, Mike Vick, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Wheedon, Jay Cutler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassell and Tony Romo ALL have more INT’s than Carson Palmer.
Of course the you don’t want to mention that 6 of his INTs from last year came in his first 2 games off the couch, you know, when he had about 6 days of work with his receivers, that doesn’t warrant being mentioned, as timing with receivers plays no part in interceptions at all.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I have a problem with the best back in the NFL is getting 2.2 ypc the Coach says were gonna stick to this plan!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Allen won’t be on the hot seat this year…both he and Reggie get a pass while they retool the roster and escape salary cap he!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Lets be real here and call a spade a spade you do not like Palmer because he is white and you feel like black QB’s are the wave of the future.
Nothing more nothing less pure racism there is no other explanation as Palmer has been a good solider this season doing what is asked of him by his coaches.
We are dead last in Defense, Special Teams, running the ball and pass protection but somehow this is Palmer’s fault.
I am sorry to have to put it so bluntly to you but there is no other explanation.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Dennis Allen made a critical mistake by not challenging that sideline pass to Moore in the 3rd quarter. It was 3rd down and we could have had a decent drive going but everything spiraled downhill from that point.
The only excuse is he was afraid to lose the challenge. From what I saw DMoore was clearly beyond the marker when he rolled out of bounds..it was a horrible spot and SOMEONE needed to either tell DA or DA himself should have known to challenge that.
There was 22 left on the play clock when we punted..plenty of time to wait until the coaches got a good look to se if it was worth the challenge, but noooooo….DA rushed the punting team out there as if he couldn’t wait to give the ball back to Manning.
Would it have changed the outcome? Probably not, as our defense was a sieve and couldn’t stop jack squat, but if that drive continues with the momentum we had from the 1st half and we take the lead right there? Who knows how it would have affected things.
The postgame analysts agreed that it was a CRITICAL no challenge and were befuddled as to why DA did not challenge the spot.
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I think DA should have challenged the spot.
It was worth the gamble.
I don’t think it was a clear first down. It was close.
I actually thought we came up just short and it wasn’t a terrible spot.
At least we didn’t throw 6 yards short of the sticks as usual.
Should add that the NFL has a huge problem brewing in the administration of ’spot’ challenges.
DA could have ‘won’ the challenge if the replay ref decided to move the ball up 2 inches, and the Raids still might not have made a first down.
We already saw something similar in the Tuck game.
Re-spotting the ball based on replay is extremely problematical.
How is this done ? The guy under the hood estimates the ball should be moved 3.1 inches ?
Is it taken for granted that the yellow first down line that the TV feed provides is exact ?
I’m in favor of retaining ’spot’ challenges as there are times when a clearly horrible spot will be reversed. There are many times when a yard marker is clearly in view to aid in re-spotting the ball.
There are many times however, where it is just impactical to have the replay booth determine that the ball needs to be moved an inch or two in either direction and then have the ref try to make that spot on the field.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Yo Brahs I was jogging on my treadmill (on 7.5, 12 miles) this am, getting straight up HIZZLE to some 80s flashback jams
Somehow pitched a huge tent to Katrina & The Waves
Ahhhh yeah, you know my baloney pony was walking on sunshine
That hizzy may be plump in all the wrong places, but that’s why some lococholo invented scratch margaritas
PLAYA DEL CARMEN REPRESENT
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Don’t blame Palmer or DMAC; it’s obvious the offensive line is a liability.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
The only guy I saw drinking at last nights celebration was Curt Young sipping a beer.He probably does that after every game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
well it hasnt happend we have scored 13-14 and 6 in the losses, we are one of the worst 3rd down teams in football and that is where the qb makes his living.
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Yup… cuz Palmer is missing open receivers all over the field, and has eon’s to throw the ball too.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
didn’t say he would be fired. I said he is on the hot seat…Meaning intense scrutiny.
At he beginning of the season Reggie Mckenzie made a comment that he was intent on finding “His guy” because ultimately he was going to be held accountable for how the Raiders performed.
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The definition of ‘hot seat’ with regards to the NFL and coaching means on the verge of being fired.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
jc led 4-2 raiders were hands down the best team and with the best qb we have had since gannon.
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i just said that, you pasted it did you not read? now you’re saying that was a better team than this team, uhmm yea we had mcfadden and bush rushing for how many yards? we had how many sacks as a D? Our offensive line was ranked what in the league? I mean this is too easy bro, your in a wheelchair but you continue trying to race
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Another thing to take note of when comparing this team to last year’s…how different would the score have been in last year’s season opener if Manning had been QB instead of Kyle Orton?
Not sure we would have won that MNF game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
winning just doesnt seem to be what he does. he couldnt do it with the bungles
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he was considered one of the top 5 qb’s in league year in and year out till the injury
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considered top 5? lol, so what, he was a loser in cicncy and he quit after a miserable 4-12 failure fo a season. who cares what talking heads on espn think about where he ranked so many years ago.
as of now he is leading our silver and black pirate ship straight to davey jones locker.
The qb touches the ball on every offensivessnap he deserves much of the credit and blame. he has been pedestrian this season and he stunk last year
The trade is a flop at this moment, no matter how deep your love for him runs
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Fire Knapp, O line Coach, and Hoffman ASAP! Bring back Wylie let Saunders be OC and draft ALL DEFENSE!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Why should Reggie and DA get a free pass? Some are saying as much as 3 years of gravy train for them. Since when is non-performance of duties acceptable? If we end up getting a top pick and we go with a top QB, we should clean house and bring in whoever is best able to ramp him up to NFL speed. Whatever his style, that is what the coaching staff should tailor itself to be.
Hot seat to me doesn’t mean “intense scrutiny”. Whatever that means. The only intense scrutity that matters is fearing for your paycheck. All the rest is BS and doesn’t scare anyone or mean anything.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Palmer is right between Drew Brees, Cam Newton and Matthew Stafford in QB rankings this year.
Stop it already!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RAIDERMAN99, whats good Brother? hope all is well. Good point on the spot challeges.
Their should be another challenge for that altoghather in my opinion, and they should not count againnst the number you have, all other rules should aply if you are wrong.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
but since you brought it up the jc led 4-2 raiders were hands down the best team and with the best qb we have had since gannon. 12-7 undefeated in the division and number one in the division. the team has gone backwards ever since, 5-9 yes backwards
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This is just laughable.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
KNAPP, Special teams, and the D need fixing.
CPIII is the least of our worries.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
The trade is a flop at this moment, no matter how deep your love for him runs
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you like stats well his qb rating is above Andrew Luck, Matthew Stafford, Tony Romo, Sam Bradford, Jay Cutler and your favorite RUSSEL WILSON. How’s Jc’s qb rating this year?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Lets be real here and call a spade a spade you do not like Palmer because he is white and you feel like black QB’s are the wave of the future.
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your opinion is your right, but i cant let you speak for me.
I dont like plamer and has nothing to do with race.
i dont like 18 ints in 14 starts
i dont like a 5-9 record with him starting
I dont like 2-4 in the division when we were the power house in the division just last year
i dont like the excuses, “he needs healthy dmac, moore, and offseason” he has those and we are losing.
i dont like guys that QUIT on their team because they couldnt get coaches fired or players traded
i dont like the temper tantrums yelling at players and coaches when you havnt earned the right to do so
if he was green and had the same issues i still wouldt like him
grow up
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
did i mention he was also ahead of the “ultra athletic” “wave of the future” Michael Vick?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Horrible play calling and the line play on both offense and defense are the big problems here.
We can’t run and can’t stop the run, and play tissue soft touch football. The lines don’t push or penetrate on either side. We are getting pushed backwards on every play.
I agree Carson is the least of our worries.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
if he was green and had the same issues i still wouldt like him
grow up
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a guy throwing a temper tantrum tellin a grown man to grow up, classic!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
did i mention he was also ahead of the “ultra athletic” “wave of the future” Michael Vick?
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Vick is 3-1 as has beaten some good teams.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
(i dont like 18 ints in 14 starts)
In the last year Cam Newton has 22 INT’s
Micheal Vick has 20 INT’s
I seriously doubt you think they need to be benched do you?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I’ve watched Jason Campbell since he was with the Redskins, and if you think that guy was going to lead us to a division win then you’ve got to readjust your sights. I love the guy for his work ethic and professionalism, but when the lights go on he just looks tentative. I saw the same thing in preaseason action with the Bears; he’s too skittish. It’s a shame because he seems like a class-act, but I never saw it translate consistently on the field.
Hate what we paid for Palmer, but I’m glad we have him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
jc led 4-2 raiders were hands down the best team and with the best qb we have had since gannon.
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i just said that, you pasted it did you not read? now you’re saying that was a better team than this team, uhmm yea we had mcfadden and bush rushing for how many yards? we had how many sacks as a D? Our offensive line was ranked what in the league? I mean this is too easy bro, your in a wheelchair but you continue trying to race
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stop the excuses
5 wins 9 losses 18 picks in 14 starts 2-4 in the division
this is his total body of work as a raider he has not delivered what you said he would
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
“Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
did i mention he was also ahead of the “ultra athletic” “wave of the future” Michael Vick?
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Vick is 3-1 as has beaten some good teams.”
Vick is also the biggest turnover machine in the NFL it will be a battle to get to 8-8 with Vick at QB for a whole season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
At the new Mile High stadium they show what the refs are looking at on their replay screen on the jumbotron.
I figured that when Allen challenged that play in the first half, we would just see the ref playing a game of Pac-man.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Vick is also the biggest turnover machine in the NFL it will be a battle to get to 8-8 with Vick at QB for a whole season.
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Wanna put some money on that one????
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Campbell probably was the best QB we had since Gannon…until we got Palmer.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Let me throw this out there.The reason Reggie went into full rebuild was he saw that we went 8-8 the last 2 years.When he looked at the team he and his coaching staff decided the team had just about reached it’s ceiling,that 8-8 or perhaps 9-7 was as good as this team could ever be with no real shot of ever advancing deep into the post season.Therefore instead of patching and trying to squeeze more out of it he decided wholesale changes had to be made.Also,he had to get the cap in order to move forward,to not only be able to get some top-line players but get the necessary depth you must have to be consistently competitive.Depth is something this organization has lacked for many years.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Was that Taiwan who made a couple of nice plays covering punt returns? Then had the facemask penalty? I couldn’t tell.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
did you know that thru 162 attempts this season carson palmer had more attempts than joe flacco, aaron rodgers, phillip rivers Peyton Manning RUSSEL WILSON and CAM NEWTON with less pics?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
vick beat balt and nyg this year. Has a 3-1 record as a starter for the eagles who lost to cards.
you put up whaterver you want, he will be better than 8-8.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Campbell probably was the best QB we had since Gannon (but thats not saying much)…until we got Palmer.
^^this
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Was that Taiwan who made a couple of nice plays covering punt returns? Then had the facemask penalty? I couldn’t tell.
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It was Jones
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ITS OVER! GET OVER IT!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
The terms that brought him here are ridiculously unfavorable for the raiders, and handicapped our draft.
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So Hue screwed us?
Also ” he has not produced the wins or the unstoppable offense with dmac and moore like everyone( except me).”
C’Mon really? The thought was that we would have a top 10 running game, not last in the league. I know you think that Palmer is the biggest problem with the running game and has nothing to do with the offensive line…
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yes Hue screwed us and himself, the bungles are laugjhing thier asses off with thier young signal caller & our draft picks. What did we get? 5-9 18 picks in 14 starts
I know you and 99% of the rest made the excuse the palmer needed dmac and moore then we would be light years ahead of the team we had last year.
well it hasnt happend we have scored 13-14 and 6 in the losses, we are one of the worst 3rd down teams in football and that is where the qb makes his living.
sorry the palmer trade is shaping up to be a major flop, just short of herschel walker
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we WOULD be looking good if hue and his scheme were still in place thats the part you are forgetting Mistic and it not only affecting Palmer its also affecting Dmac and the defense. how is it affecting the defense? the best defense is a good offense.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
(i dont like 18 ints in 14 starts)
In the last year Cam Newton has 22 INT’s
Micheal Vick has 20 INT’s
I seriously doubt you think they need to be benched do you?
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Cam is a second year player, and acconted for 35 touchdowns as a rookie, that easily outweighs 22 ints.
palmer has 18 picks and only 18 tds, very tavaris jackson like ratio
vick missed the entire pre season and has the worst o line in football, yet he has led 2 come from behind wins this season and the eagles are challenging for the division lead. he beat the ravens and the giants.
besides vick and cam tax the defense in ways that palmer could never dream of.
Please
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
did you know that thru 162 attempts this season carson palmer had more attempts than joe flacco, aaron rodgers, phillip rivers Peyton Manning RUSSEL WILSON and CAM NEWTON with less pics?
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Hell of a stat…Palmer is not the problem.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
did you know that thru 162 attempts this season carson palmer had more attempts than joe flacco, aaron rodgers, phillip rivers Peyton Manning RUSSEL WILSON and CAM NEWTON with less pics?
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palmer is a 10 year vet, he should have better numbers than newton a second year player and rookie wilson
what are you saying?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
95% percent of us here all understand whats going on with this team and what needs to be fixed……then there is the 5% who have their head up their ass and think this is all the QB’s fault!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
95% percent of us here all understand whats going on with this team and what needs to be fixed……then there is the 5% who have their head up their ass and think this is all the QB’s fault!
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i get it your upset because i told you this would happen
I said palmer would not lead us to the playoffs last year, he ddint
i said palmer would be a turn over machine last year, he was
i said palmer would not lead an offensive juggernught, evn with a healthy dmac and moore and full off season, he hasnt
i sadi he would lead us strait a rebuilding status… he has
dont shoot the messenger
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
“Wanna put some money on that one????”
Yes I do!
Can you be trusted to pay up?
Lets say $100
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
vick missed the entire pre season and has the worst o line in football….
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Yeah I agree with Mistic on this one, a bad online and not having a proper offseason can really make a great QB look bad.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Mistic, you have to admit that Carson Palmer won the Steelers game for us in the second half despite poor o-line play and hardly any production from DMAC. I’d call that a comeback victory.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Those 5% dont get football….
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
95% percent of us here all understand whats going on with this team and what needs to be fixed……then there is the 5% who have their head up their ass and think this is all the QB’s fault!
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Its simple…the org is in re build mode. A total reset however, they forgot to tell the Raider NATION, hence the confusion.
the MAIN Culprits for our current 1-3 record are;
DA and Tarver = the D Brain Trust
Knapp = OCO
Hoffman = Special Teams
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
“inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
did you know that thru 162 attempts this season carson palmer had more attempts than joe flacco, aaron rodgers, phillip rivers Peyton Manning RUSSEL WILSON and CAM NEWTON with less pics?”
Nice post and true to the point like I said 95% of us in this blog right now understand the issues there are 2 or 3 posters who are so obsessed with race that they want to put the blame elsewhere.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
95% percent of us here all understand whats going on with this team and what needs to be fixed……then there is the 5% who have their head up their ass and think this is all the QB’s fault!
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Agreed. We should abandon the QB topic and move onto something else.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Let me throw this out there.The reason Reggie went into full rebuild was he saw that we went 8-8 the last 2 years.When he looked at the team he and his coaching staff decided the team had just about reached it’s ceiling,that 8-8 or perhaps 9-7 was as good as this team could ever be with no real shot of ever advancing deep into the post season.Therefore instead of patching and trying to squeeze more out of it he decided wholesale changes had to be made.Also,he had to get the cap in order to move forward,to not only be able to get some top-line players but get the necessary depth you must have to be consistently competitive.Depth is something this organization has lacked for many years.
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Well Lefty if Reggie believed that which I doubt he was wrong, this team could have made some noise in the playoffs this year if we would have kept Hue or at least his scheme and just concentrated on the D. In 2013 we would of been SB contenders instead we will have to wait a few more years but whats a few more years we’ve already been waiting 10 plus right?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Anyone else think the team will fire Hoffman, at least?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RAIDERMAN99, whats good Brother? hope all is well.
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Yes, my friend, all is well and I trust the same is true for you.
However, all is NOT well with the nation, and I’m dismayed by the ‘can’t do’ attitude many on this board have taken regarding dumping Krapp ASAP.
Anyone that can’t see that Krapp’s playcalling and the switch to the ZBS is an immense problem that is easily rectified just isn’t paying attention.
We have the personnel on Offense to be doing MUCH better, right NOW. Defense, I’m afraid is going to have to be almost completely redone post 2012.
There’s a long road ahead of us. We can’t be afraid of making moves. We’ve got to keep our eye on the prize and take whatever steps are necessary to grab it.
RAIDS are about winning SB’s. Not settling for Krapp.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
“Wanna put some money on that one????”
Yes I do!
Can you be trusted to pay up?
Lets say $100
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Yes, I am a man of my word. for proof ask JFB.
So 100 snacks it is. Payable once the eggless reach 9 or more vicktories… easy money.
Do you want to put in any disclaimers?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
143,
You are technically right about Palmer NOT leading us to playoffs but to attribute any blame on him for the SD game is preposterous and u know it, but are too staunch in your stance to admit it.
He was 30-42 for 417 yds. and a pair of td’s that game.
The one int. he threw was becuz Ford fell down…period.
NO QB, Cam Newton, RG3, or your guy Joe freaking Webb would have been able to overcome our horrible defense and special teams that day.
Syaing anything otherwise is just stupid.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
95% percent of us here all understand whats going on with this team and what needs to be fixed……then there is the 5% who have their head up their ass and think this is all the QB’s fault!
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Its so absurd as to be comical..as soon as I see a sentence regarding it being Palmers fault, I just skip the post. There is no point in reading further. Palmer has been the best player on the entire TEAM! I wish one of the Palmer haters would at least name someone who has played better than he has….of course..I probably wouldn’t get that far to read it since anyone with that opinion has their bloated dome up their bloated butt…
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I hope all of you realize Kyle Boller is to blame for all of this.
He was the QB who couldn’t throw the ball down field against KC last year, and instead dumped it off to McFadden.
McFadden was then injured.
Palmer never set foot on the field with McFadden in 2011 and the offense became one-dimentional as Bush proved he was unable to carry the load as a starter.
The Raiders faltered and missed the playoffs.
Hue went nutz and tried to take over the team.
See, it is all Boller’s fault. If he had not thrown that pass McFadden plays with Palmer and the Raiders go 10-6 easily last season. Then Reggie, or whatever GM Mark hired would not have been allowed to fire Hue, and Hue would have been allowed to replace Chucky as DC, and we would be in a much better short-term position than we are right now.
Would have it worked long-term? Probably not, but you never know…..
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I am done with this QB crap.
I would rather debate about what needs to be fixed first or what position do we draft next year.
We are set at QB people we have a veteran right now and a young guy being groomed for the future.
I would guess that MLB and DE will be the first 2 positions taken in next years draft….anyone else care to guess?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
So you think its Palmers fault receivers run out of bounds before getting a first down, drop balls, and run wrong routes? Do you think its his fault this offensive line cant make a running lane for DMAC to run through? Come on, its simple. Sheme is the problem. Scheme = Coaching.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Yes, my friend, all is well and I trust the same is true for you.
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Glad to hear you are doing well.
I have switched my tune of the wait and see approach on Knapp.
Although he is not going anywhere, you Semi’s who saw this train wreak of an OCO, Kudo’s to you.
We are rebuilding, and the org forgot to tell the NATION.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
FU KYLE BOLLER! FU!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Why? No Pryor at the end of the game??
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
“Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
“Wanna put some money on that one????”
Yes I do!
Can you be trusted to pay up?
Lets say $100
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Yes, I am a man of my word. for proof ask JFB.
So 100 snacks it is. Payable once the eggless reach 9 or more vicktories… easy money.
Do you want to put in any disclaimers?”
Yes I would like to change the bet from 8 games won to winning a playoff game.
Eagles win a playoff game you get my $100 if they don’t you do not owe me anything!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Our priority should be CB; we need to get at least one top-flight cornerback. Then MLB and DE.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
would guess that MLB and DE will be the first 2 positions taken in next years draft….anyone else care to guess?
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Spot on.
First 5 players taken in the RAIDERS draft should be the BEST defensive player left on the board.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
East-but the fact is we didn’t keep HJ.He and the present management team didn’t mesh.I’m tired of the what ifs.We don’t know for sure that we would have won anything if he stayed.We didn’t win anything with him here last year and we had our chances.We need to look at today and the future not the past.This team wasn’t good enough to vie for the big prize so changes were made.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
The Palmer trade was based on the fact that Hue would still be here and running his scheme now that Hue is gone and knapp is in the trade has been diminished and it will look very one sided.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Yes, best available defensive player would be the right way to go.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION this yr either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady. Palmer is getting 12 million dollars this year and will get more next.
Al believed in JC and we did some cool trick plays with him in 2010 ..that game in denver was on point. He had a great game in jacksonville. btw a week b4 he got injured last year. There was rumors Al was talking contract extension. Even at hue press conference when he was hired.. he was talking about how u dont give up on Qb’s and was compairing Jason to Cam newton in college ha.
But ya Al was gonna give Jason a contract extension ..it was being talked about week 4 of last season. Plus he had crazy chemistry with the WR’s last year and were 4-2 with him. JC had some good games in Denver, against the jets, and the TExans game. We beat the damn texans last year. last year was more comfortable in the offense. Go look at that buffalo game last year and see the deep throws he was making to DMOORE
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Some people just need to drop the Palmer obsession.
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, RG3, Cam Newton, Lacedarious Washington, or WHOMEVER would nto be good enough to overcome the defense we saw out there Sunday.
Palmer is not a super hero. Ok, we admit that.
Maybe Brady on his best day would have been able to keep it close against Denver….maybe… but how obvious can it be that our defense is one of the worst we have ever seen…period.
I don’t know how it gets fixed.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
I will say it again: Why Pryor is inactive is beyond me and one of the reasons I am so annoyed, skeptical, and disgusted with this coaching staff. You need all playmakers on deck at all times..and that includes Taiwan Jones…the fact that this kid has been relegated to covering punts is fVcking INFURIATING—
Pryor can do ALOT of things..Carson doesn’t need to come off the field for the kid to be in there as well…
This all goes back to yep, you guessed it..the non creative offensive mastermind Gregg Knapp..
I know guys who collect comic books that could call better plays than he does..
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
papertiger418 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Mistic, you have to admit that Carson Palmer won the Steelers game for us in the second half despite poor o-line play and hardly any production from DMAC. I’d call that a comeback victory.
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i did just that, I complimented him for turning in his best game as a raider, and have noted his improvement over last season on a weekly basis.
However when you look at the total body of work here it isnt very good, and even with palmer playing the best he possibly can it has only produced 1 win this season.
i dont thiink he is the answer but i agreed that it would be unfair to judge the trade until around mid season this year.
so far it is an epic failure, and a desperate reach that hasnt nearly lived up to what it was supposed to mean.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Couple more loses and i would send Palmer out fot surgery for tendonitis and play Pryor the rest of the year!! This shyit is over!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Yes I would like to change the bet from 8 games won to winning a playoff game.
Eagles win a playoff game you get my $100 if they don’t you do not owe me anything!
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So they have to win 9 and a playoff game.
You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.
What if they win 9 games, and do not make the Playoffs?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I don’t really care for college football, but I suppose I’ll have to start watching it in order to familiarize myself with the best defensive players in the hopes that the Raiders draft them.
Who should I keep an eye on?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
169,
Small point, but Palmer is 32…he turns 33 in late December…
I see what you’re saying, but Palmer is more than capable of leading a productive offense…and with a good team around him would be more than fine.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
papertiger418 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Yes, best available defensive player would be the right way to go.
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Every Round
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
“Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
The Palmer trade was based on the fact that Hue would still be here and running his scheme now that Hue is gone and knapp is in the trade has been diminished and it will look very one sided.”
This is an accurate post.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
This all goes back to yep, you guessed it..the non creative offensive mastermind Gregg Knapp..
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KNAPP = the Anti Mastermind
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
My heart sank the moment I heard Greg Knapp’s name this off-season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
East-but the fact is we didn’t keep HJ.He and the present management team didn’t mesh.I’m tired of the what ifs.We don’t know for sure that we would have won anything if he stayed.We didn’t win anything with him here last year and we had our chances.We need to look at today and the future not the past.This team wasn’t good enough to vie for the big prize so changes were made.
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Thats your opinion and I respect it Lefty. But I can argue jon gruden went 8-8 as well and went on to get us to the next level. Hue wasnt even given a chance and now we are paying a price for it. who wants to keep waiting after we’ve been waiting for 10 plus years?
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Palmer looked like one of the few players who did not quit on Sunday. The entire defense looked like they were just going through the motions.
The only other guy I noticed who looked like he was energized and ready to roll….who sprinted onto the field every chance he got…..was Condo lol. Seriously.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I see.
DMAC is merely a victim of the “scheme” of Gregg Knapp but when it comes to Palmer he’s supposed to put on the cape and turn into Superman and overcome all obstacles.
Ok. Why isn’t DMAC “OVERCOMING” the obstacles?
What a disppointment.
Trade his lazy, non productive arse.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Kell,
Mine did too, but I hoped for the best. Tried not to expect the worst…
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION this yr either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady. Palmer is getting 12 million dollars this year and will get more next.
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Keep bringing up his age and I will keep bringing up the fact that he is Younger than Brees, Brady, and Manning..and the SAME age as Vick, Schaub, and Romo..so move along here with the age crap. Once again, for you folks who don’t quite get it yet…Palmer is not the problem! You don’t think he would have picked this secondary clean like Manning did last week if the roles were reversed?? Dudes the best QB we have had here since Gannon. Ill keep him around for 3-4 more years NO PROBLEM!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I think McFadden will be trade-bait if this ship starts sinking. Remember Mc Kenzie came from a team with no name running backs. relied on the passing game with a great QB.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I don’t really care for college football, but I suppose I’ll have to start watching it in order to familiarize myself with the best defensive players in the hopes that the Raiders draft them.
Who should I keep an eye on?
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Clowney from South Carolina. If he comes out which I think he will he will be the first Defensive player taken.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Kell,
Mine did too, but I hoped for the best. Tried not to expect the worst…
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I did too, but look what’s happened. Our worst fears come true.
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Some people just need to drop the Palmer obsession.
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why should i?
is 5-9 2-4 in the division good enough for you?
Not me thanks
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
My heart sank the moment I heard Greg Knapp’s name this off-season.
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Dude me too. I couldn’t believe it..Only the Raiders would REHIRE a guy who was stripped of his duties by the H.C/Offensive Line Coach…SMMFH!
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Geez.
Seems I’m the only one with any optimism that the season can be salvaged by DA making on HONEST assessment of things and “adjusting” things based on that.
I am still holding out a glimmer of hope that DA will do this.
If I see McClain starting against Atlanta, or if later in the week we hear DA say; “Well, we carefully analyzed the first 4 games and I don’t see anything we need to change as far as our schemes or playcalling, and our defense just needs to make plays and execute better”. Then…I give up the season.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
How in the HELL can the Semi’s who do not get paid see the train wreck that is KNAPP and the “so called Pro’s” can’t?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
MikieG Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Dude me too. I couldn’t believe it..Only the Raiders would REHIRE a guy who was stripped of his duties by the H.C/Offensive Line Coach…SMMFH!
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Wtf were they thinking?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Some people just need to drop the Palmer obsession.
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why should i?
is 5-9 2-4 in the division good enough for you?
Not me thanks
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Is Palmer in the scheme he was traded to be in Mistic? thanks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Its like getting back together with your ex-girlfriend…you dumped her a$$ the first time for a REASON…you just forgot what it was till you got with again and then #FACEPALM….
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
191.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Some people just need to drop the Palmer obsession.
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why should i?
is 5-9 2-4 in the division good enough for you?
Not me thanks
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So the defense has nothing to do with that? The WORST defense possibly of the modern era? Or a horrible OC with a faulty scheme?
NO QB would win with this situation.
You want Superman at QB?
Good luck finding him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Thus far two of our strengths from last season, special teams and the offense, have been turned into weaknesses, and our main weakness last year, the defense, has either remained the same or gotten worse.
Color me impressed with this coaching staff!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Knapp was the OC is SF fron 01′ – 03′. they went #3 in scoring in 01′, 13th in scoring in 02′, and 9th in scoring in 03′
Knapp was OC in Atlanta from 04′ – 06′.
04′ Atl was 16th in scoring
05′ Atl was 14th in scoring
06′ Atl was 25th in scoring.\
Kanpp was OC in Oakland 07′ – 08′
07′ Oak was 23rd in scoring
08′ Oak was 29th in scoring
Knapp was OC in Seattle in 09′
09′ Sea was 25th in scoring
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
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Wtf were they thinking?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Guess what guys..we got three more weeks of this hell until we get another win..because Atlanta is gonna give us the buisness 2 times as bad as the Donkeys did. I hate to say it..
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
How in the HELL can the Semi’s who do not get paid see the train wreck that is KNAPP and the “so called Pro’s” can’t?
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because we are the pros at (least some of us) and they are the semi’s.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
This years bye has come at an excellent time for me as well as I am unable to suffer watching another humiliating defeat and need time to regroup. Broke down and bought sunday ticket saturday night too, dooohhh.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Knapp was the OC is SF fron 01′ – 03′. they went #3 in scoring in 01′, 13th in scoring in 02′, and 9th in scoring in 03′
Knapp was OC in Atlanta from 04′ – 06′.
04′ Atl was 16th in scoring
05′ Atl was 14th in scoring
06′ Atl was 25th in scoring.\
Kanpp was OC in Oakland 07′ – 08′
07′ Oak was 23rd in scoring
08′ Oak was 29th in scoring
Knapp was OC in Seattle in 09′
09′ Sea was 25th in scoring
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
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Wtf were they thinking?
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Regression
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
If anyone thinks that Pryor would have own the game against Denver you are insane and off your meds.
Talk about a bad take.
Any statement like that is just intended to incite arguments and to be a jerk and an idiot.
Stupidest thing i’ve ever heard suggested.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Unfortunately for us, the qb debate is not going to stop until Palmer starts winning games, in football when teams los,e most of the blame goes to the qb, just like most of the praise goes to the qb when they win. Palmer is supposed to be the top dog in the team, the highest paid and the most pampered by the “95%” (which I’m sure also includes Corky and his crew) who have their tongues firmly stuck up his arse, refuse to see reality and hold Palmer accountable. Keep on licking.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
In a DOME, on TURF, on the ROAD, with NO Secondary While trying to cover White, Jones, and Turner…
Matt Ryan is licking his chops…Glad I have him in Fantasy, Ill be benching Brees for this debacle..
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
“Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.”
OK agreed!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Palmer is being screwed by 0 run game, a terrible RT, and a last minute shuffling of WR’s and a TE, Myers who can’t block my grandma.
Not too even mention Knapp playing calling.
On top of that this team needs: Barnes, Spencer, Bartell, DHB and Curry back. I hope Curry plays MLB.
McClain is awful.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Unfortunately for us, the qb debate is not going to stop until Palmer starts winning games, in football when teams los,e most of the blame goes to the qb, just like most of the praise goes to the qb when they win. Palmer is supposed to be the top dog in the team, the highest paid and the most pampered by the “95%” (which I’m sure also includes Corky and his crew) who have their tongues firmly stuck up his arse, refuse to see reality and hold Palmer accountable. Keep on licking.
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Explain how Palmer is going to open lanes for DMAC to run through or stop Manning on Defense. Please explain
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Palmer getting paid 12 million dollars to be part of a 4-12 team?
I dont think he will b here next year. ya he is good.. but Reggie is gonna want draft one of his guys and Get him on a Rookie contract.
As far as Pryor ive been saying since week 1.. how are you gonna have a 6ft 6 230 pound qb who runs a 4.3 and is one of the best athletes on the team outside of DMAC standing on the sideline in street clothes?? how are you gonna do that?
Then i realized we have Allen and Knapp in charge. Nuff said
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
zopi Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Unfortunately for us, the qb debate is not going to stop until Palmer starts winning games, in football when teams los,e most of the blame goes to the qb, just like most of the praise goes to the qb when they win. Palmer is supposed to be the top dog in the team, the highest paid and the most pampered by the “95%” (which I’m sure also includes Corky and his crew) who have their tongues firmly stuck up his arse, refuse to see reality and hold Palmer accountable. Keep on licking.
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Spoken like a man who has never had 2 guys draped on him 1 second after having the ball snapped…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Horrible play calling and the line play on both offense and defense are the big problems here.
We can’t run and can’t stop the run, and play tissue soft touch football. The lines don’t push or penetrate on either side. We are getting pushed backwards on every play.
I agree Carson is the least of our worries.
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Even somebody, the likes of “Geno Smith” would get butchered behind our garbage line.
A skater tries for hours on end to ramp over a concrete aqueduct…..Crash, crash, crash, crash…..So he goes out and drops a few grand on a brand new -top of the line- new skate board with all the bells and whistles…….Again, crash, crash, crash and he looks at his board with confusion and dissappointment.
How about you fix your Piece ‘O’ SH*T RAMP first, You DI*K HOLE
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Lol at Mistic1 going full on clone to try and prop his Palmer hate up.
sad
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
“the highest paid and the most pampered by the “95%””
Not true Big Richard Seymour makes more money than Palmer so why are you not on his ass about this crappy defense?
Keep it real or look like an uneducated douche you seem to favor the latter!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
n Jason Campbell had a better Play action fake then Palmer does.
Jason campbell was only getting paid 4 million dollars.
Carson 12 million. Ya he restructred his contract, big deal. 11 million dollar signing bonus basically and 1 million dollar salar give or take.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
How in the HELL can the Semi’s who do not get paid see the train wreck that is KNAPP and the “so called Pro’s” can’t?
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because we are the pros at (least some of us) and they are the semi’s.
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What most of you do not seem to understand is both Reggie and Allen were hired based on their philosophies. They have been in the league under certain tried and true philosophies and have been very successful. Just because those philosophies do not work for a game or two does not mean they are going to abandon everything they believe in.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Horrible play calling and the line play on both offense and defense are the big problems here.
We can’t run and can’t stop the run, and play tissue soft touch football. The lines don’t push or penetrate on either side. We are getting pushed backwards on every play.
I agree Carson is the least of our worries.
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Even somebody, the likes of “Geno Smith” would get butchered behind our garbage line.
A skater tries for hours on end to ramp over a concrete aqueduct…..Crash, crash, crash, crash…..So he goes out and drops a few grand on a brand new -top of the line- new skate board with all the bells and whistles…….Again, crash, crash, crash and he looks at his board with confusion and dissappointment.
How about you fix your Piece ‘O’ SH*T RAMP first, You DI*K HOLE
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Or like the sh!tty golfer guy who goes and buys a 450 dollar Titleist Driver and continues to slice all his shots just FARTHER into the woods…
Get good or get gone…! It’s the Indians, NOT THE ARROWS folks..
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
MikieG Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Carson palmer is not part of the problem.. .but he is NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION this yr either 33 yrs old and not very mobile. at some point Reggie is gonna want his qb in there .. its a young mans game unless u have eli, or brady. Palmer is getting 12 million dollars this year and will get more next.
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Keep bringing up his age and I will keep bringing up the fact that he is Younger than Brees, Brady, and Manning..
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these guys have super bowl hardware that have earned the benefit of the doubt as it pertains to their age.
palmer? not so much
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
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I want in on this. Let me in for half your action Thec.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Seymour and kelly should go next season too.
Im watching seymour basically play in sand and get stood up everytime. Playing patty cake with the defenders
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
The problem with so many Raider fans is they are so eager to get rid of good players that don’t magically win games by themselves and not look at what is really wrong with this team.
I GUARANTEE YOU that Tom Brady or Drew Brees,or Aaron Rodgers isn’t winning with this team…and scheme either.
So again..why is DMAC a victim of the scheme and Palmer isn’t?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
DHB! DHB! DHB! DHB!
The nation showed its love that day when he was being carted off the field. I was there, chanting DHB myself.
DHB is a Raider.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Dan78
Maybe your on to something. Put palmer as lead blocker or at cb. Lets face it he couldn’t do any worse than guys filling that roll now. And we would only have to blame one guy.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
As far as Pryor ive been saying since week 1.. how are you gonna have a 6ft 6 230 pound qb who runs a 4.3 and is one of the best athletes on the team outside of DMAC standing on the sideline in street clothes?? how are you gonna do that?
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Because he cannot complete a pass. That’s how.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
“Horrible play calling and the line play on both offense and defense are the big problems here.
We can’t run and can’t stop the run, and play tissue soft touch football. The lines don’t push or penetrate on either side. We are getting pushed backwards on every play.
I agree Carson is the least of our worries.”
Not to mention the horrible field position we have had all year thanks to a crappy Special Teams!
Palmer has had 1/2 the time as a normal QB to make his reads and throws and yet he is still ranked with Stafford, Newton and Brees this year….I say give the man a cigar not a verbal beat down like he is getting here on this blog
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
these guys have super bowl hardware that have earned the benefit of the doubt as it pertains to their age.
palmer? not so much
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so if JC, Russell Wilson, Troy Smith, or Joe Webb was our qb, we’d have a better record this year?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
“Horrible play calling and the line play on both offense and defense are the big problems here.
We can’t run and can’t stop the run, and play tissue soft touch football. The lines don’t push or penetrate on either side. We are getting pushed backwards on every play.
I agree Carson is the least of our worries.”
Not to mention the horrible field position we have had all year thanks to a crappy Special Teams!
Palmer has had 1/2 the time as a normal QB to make his reads and throws and yet he is still ranked with Stafford, Newton and Brees this year….I say give the man a cigar not a verbal beat down like he is getting here on this blog
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Word, Dude deserves a Lapdance from Selma Hyak IMO…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I have switched my tune of the wait and see approach on Knapp.
Although he is not going anywhere, you Semi’s who saw this train wreak of an OCO, Kudo’s to you.
We are rebuilding, and the org forgot to tell the NATION.
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Unfortunately, you’re probably right that we’re stuck Krapp for the rest of the year.
That’s depressing bcz even if one accepts that the organization had written off 2012 as a rebuild year – the question that needs to be asked is – DO WE WANT TO REBUILD WITH KRAPP AS A CORNERSTONE ?
What kind of rebuild is this ?
Krapp hasn’t rebuilt a damned thing.
He’s destroyed the offense.
I can see the need to blow up the D.
Slo, Huff can’t play and need to go. Seymour is on his last legs. The CB situation is horrific.
Yes, indeed, it’s OBVIOUS the Defense has to be almost completely revamped and rebuilt.
We should not expect significant improvement on that side of the ball until new personnel is acquired after the season.
Offensively however, we can do better IMMEDIATELY, simply by dumping Krappy and getting a capable OC in place.
I view every year that we’re not contending for the SB as a rebuilding year.
I don’t even mind taking a step backwards if I’m convinced that’s what it takes to eventually move forward.
Problem I have is that Krappy isn’t ever going to take the Raids forward. He’s just going to flush 2012 and beyond down the toilet.
I can’t have any faith in our HC either if he can’t see this.
I’m very concerned that Smiley Tittyboy isn’t RAIDER material.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
191.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Some people just need to drop the Palmer obsession.
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why should i?
is 5-9 2-4 in the division good enough for you?
Not me thanks
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So the defense has nothing to do with that? The WORST defense possibly of the modern era? Or a horrible OC with a faulty scheme?
NO QB would win with this situation.
You want Superman at QB?
Good luck finding him.
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bra your excuses are making me dizzy. Lats year it was the health of the surrounding team no dmac and moore no off season this year its all this other stuff. When does it end?
We won with that awful defense last year and the same o-line
Palmer has not delivered it is that simple
the trade to this point is a bust
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
This season shall be remebered as the Great Regression….lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
“DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
The problem with so many Raider fans is they are so eager to get rid of good players that don’t magically win games by themselves and not look at what is really wrong with this team.
I GUARANTEE YOU that Tom Brady or Drew Brees,or Aaron Rodgers isn’t winning with this team…and scheme either.
So again..why is DMAC a victim of the scheme and Palmer isn’t?”
This is a good one and I cant wait to see some of the humorous responses to this…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
pryor should start our 8th game by then we will be out the PO race then we can see how pryor looks with the 1s
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
and lol at thinking KNAPP will change. He is the same guy he was in 2007 .. sucked.
In week 8 if allen doestn change .. it will be the same thing it was last week.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
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I want in on this. Let me in for half your action Thec.
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Debo I would however, I hate passing up easy money. see if 666 will let you in on it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
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Anyone crying his eys out over the salaries of Seymour and Kelly should be just as pissed about Palmer’s $12 million per. You can spit stats at me until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, we’re 1-3. What is this team getting for that $12 million per? Personally, I could care less what any guy is making, but I’d be interested to know why all the people up in arms about salries on this team have no problem with Palmer’s.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So you geniuses looked at the game against Denver and in your superior wisdom have determined that it is Palmer who was blame?
That is the most idiotic take I have ever read.
Sell that to anybody other than some of the retarded people with agendas on this blog and you would be laughed out of town.
THAT is what you take away from the Denver game?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
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so if JC, Russell Wilson, Troy Smith, or Joe Webb was our qb, we’d have a better record this year?
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HaaayyuLL NOOOO
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
the trade to this point is a bust
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i think most ppl said we gave up way too much and CP’s as much the problem as DMAC is. JC hasn’t delivered the goods enough to get a starting job, what’s his excuse? what’s joe webbs excuse? What’s Russel Wilsons excuse for his passer rating? What’s Troy Smiths excuse?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
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I want in on this. Let me in for half your action Thec.
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Debo I would however, I hate passing up easy money. see if 666 will let you in on it.
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666??
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
If we would have just kept Bruce Gradkowski, he could have kept the seat a lot warmer than Kyle Boller did, and maybe Hue doesn’t panic for the Palmer trade.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
We won with that awful defense last year and the same o-line
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You do know we played power blocking scheme instead of ZBS. In the power scheme DMAC new what gap they were going to open so he would run full speed through it. In the ZBS he has to wait for a gap, cut and then try to run full speed. It is not working with o-line they are better fitted for the Power scheme
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
“RaiderDebo Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
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If Jamarcus Russell comes out of retirement and makes the 53 man roster of another NFL team I will give you $100.
Ok now you are included!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I could care less what any guy is making, but I’d be interested to know why all the people up in arms about salries on this team have no problem with Palmer’s.
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Maybe because only if you are completely blind would you think Carson Palmer is the problem with this team.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
don’t tell me you like tavaris jackson too?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I thought Palmer restructured down to around $4 million this year?
But if we are paying him $12 millie, that is probably 3-5 million too many, IMO.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
pryor should start our 8th game by then we will be out the PO race then we can see how pryor looks with the 1s
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we are already out of the play off race season is over
how many teams go to the playoffs after a 1-3 start?
is this team good enough to over come a 1-3 start? not with this terrible special teams and defense.
the count down to TP6 is on palmer seat is hotter than niki minaj’s snatch
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders Huff allowed 14-21 185 yds and 2 TDs so far; McClain 7-9 78 2 TDs; Giordano 8-14 103 2 TDs; Branch 8-13 68 TD
1h Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders Joselio Hanson allowed 10 catches on 12 passes his way; tied for 2nd worst of players with 10+ targets
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READ THE ABOVE ….. Matt Ryan will shred us, best WR dup we will face all year. Julio Jones, Roddy White, Tony GOnzalez ,Harry Douglass? Turner? Rodgers?
wowwwwwwww
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
What most of you do not seem to understand is both Reggie and Allen were hired based on their philosophies. They have been in the league under certain tried and true philosophies and have been very successful. Just because those philosophies do not work for a game or two does not mean they are going to abandon everything they believe in.
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SBush, I get that however, why Greg KNAPP?
What has he done in the league that would warrant him getting a job AGAIN, with the NATION.
Fred Flinstone took away his play calling duties.
I was one of a very few that took a wait and see on this guy however, KNAPP flat out sucs, and the Semi’s called it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
245.inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
don’t tell me you like tavaris jackson too?
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Of course. He has one important quality/feature that Brady, Rodgers and the Manning bros. don’t have.
Can u guess what it is?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So you geniuses looked at the game against Denver and in your superior wisdom have determined that it is Palmer who was blame?
That is the most idiotic take I have ever read.
Sell that to anybody other than some of the retarded people with agendas on this blog and you would be laughed out of town.
THAT is what you take away from the Denver game?
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The simple like to keep it simple. Team’s not winning? Blame the QB.
Because we all know you can just take any 10 guys on the offense, any 11 on defense, pick any ole goob for your HC, insert Pro Bowl QB and bazinga! Super Bowl!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Palmer is still gettin his 12 million this year.. he just restructred it and got more money up front.
I knew once getting palmer it would set this franchise back even more. That wasnt Mckenzie’s problem.. that was hue who did that.
Now we were gonna be stuck with palmer at least this year.. maybe… maybe next too.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
“RaiderDebo Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
“You just changed the whole complextion of the bet.”
Yes I did sorry about that but not ready to give you $100 that easy….I did also take the risk out on your end saying that you do not have to pay me no matter what happens.
1 playoff win by the Michael Vick lead Eagles and you can have my $100
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Ok brother, you got it. One more disclaimer, If vick goes down and misses games the bet is null and void.
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If Jamarcus Russell comes out of retirement and makes the 53 man roster of another NFL team I will give you $100.
Ok now you are included!
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I’ll take it. Speaking of, it amazes me how everyone is finally waking up to the idea that QBs are only as good as their supporting casts. I guess it took an epic flop by a guy like Palmer to slap some sense into some of you guys. Compared to what JR had around him in 2009, Palmer is playing with a HOF supporting cast. Never did get why people didn’t see this with our #1 overall pick.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
how many teams go to the playoffs after a 1-3 start?
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How about last years AFC West division winners?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I could care less what any guy is making, but I’d be interested to know why all the people up in arms about salries on this team have no problem with Palmer’s.
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When white players make money they deserve it. When A/A’s make money it’s welfare. That’s why.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Going with a certain philosophy is fine….just don’t hire rejects like Knapp to try and implement it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I’m very concerned that Smiley Tittyboy isn’t RAIDER material.
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ROFLMAO…..hahahahahahaha
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@RaiderDebo
I agree…wow, Palmer should have taken a nice paycut for our rescue and sacrifice that the Raider organization gave up to get him off the couch. Could have brought in a couple of quality Free agents with that freeed up money.
But you cannot tell me you have been impressed with the play of Kelly and Seymour, these guys are supposed to be our difference makers. I had very high expectations for these guys.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
the count down to TP6 is on palmer seat is hotter than niki minaj’s snatch
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gotta admit tho, hard to agree with your CP “evaluation” when you vouched for Troy Smith and Joe Webb. I mean i know i keep bringing those up, but Troy Smith and Joe Webb, really?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Although Carson deserves a lot of credit for his tutledge and general baby-sitting of Terrell Pryor.
If TP ever turns into a decent QB for the Raiders, Carson will deserve a lot of credit for not acting like Brett Favre and some of these other ego-driven QB’s who snub their noses at the youngsters.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I could care less what any guy is making, but I’d be interested to know why all the people up in arms about salries on this team have no problem with Palmer’s.
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Maybe because only if you are completely blind would you think Carson Palmer is the problem with this team.
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We are 1-3!!! I would be less critical if he WAS the problem. But he’s proving to be a non-factor! Again, why pay a non-factor $12 million per if we’re all so damn worried about the salary cap?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Where are our bye-week secondary and OL tryout announcements? Is one DE all we are adding to the mix?
C’mon Reggie…push some buttons.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I could care less what any guy is making, but I’d be interested to know why all the people up in arms about salries on this team have no problem with Palmer’s.
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When white players make money they deserve it. When A/A’s make money it’s welfare. That’s why.
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Do you have a link to prove that statement?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
A’s need to go for that division win, I don’t like the setup for these WC teams.
Not as bad if you are the home team for the elimination game, but if Balt or Oak has to fly crossed-coast for a one game elimination, that is tough.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@RaiderDebo
I agree…wow, Palmer should have taken a nice paycut for our rescue and sacrifice that the Raider organization gave up to get him off the couch. Could have brought in a couple of quality Free agents with that freeed up money.
But you cannot tell me you have been impressed with the play of Kelly and Seymour, these guys are supposed to be our difference makers. I had very high expectations for these guys.
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So far, not impressed with a single player on the roster, or any of the coaches for that matter.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
How about you Palmer critics give him a break since he’s had THREE different offensive coordinators over his past three seasons of action?
That’s the excuse everyone used for Campbell, right?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I can’t blame Palmer. Knapp tied everyone’s hands behind their back.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
C’mon Reggie…push some buttons
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anyone good on Green Bays PS?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Hahaha, Debo are you REALLY in here defending Jamayonnaise again/still? Can i borrow whatever glasses you wear? I need some that rosy lense stuff about now….
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
How about you Palmer critics give him a break since he’s had THREE different offensive coordinators over his past three seasons of action?
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Make it 4. No way we keep the used car salesman if this crap doesn’t improve.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
245.inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
don’t tell me you like tavaris jackson too?
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Of course. He has one important quality/feature that Brady, Rodgers and the Manning bros. don’t have.
Can u guess what it is?
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sorry not a t-jax fan too many turn overs, but those other guys you mentioned in this post are very good. i would take all of them over palmer without hesitation
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I can’t blame Palmer. Knapp tied everyone’s hands behind their back
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This is why AL favored the players over the coaches.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
papertiger418 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
How about you Palmer critics give him a break since he’s had THREE different offensive coordinators over his past three seasons of action?
That’s the excuse everyone used for Campbell, right?
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Campbell didn’t need any excuses in Oakland. When he started, we won games. In fact, the last time I expected the Raiders to win games was when he was the QB. I tip my cap to him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Thec and Lefty, you must not have been watching the same camera/broadcast as I was of the A’s clubhouse last night. Yes, plenty of spraying but also a goodly number of bottles being tipped into mouths too.
I’m an A’s fan, just think it’s a little childish (of ALL baseball players/people) to party like it’s 1999 when there’s a division title on the line TODAY and you haven’t won anything but a play-in game like the 65th team in the NCAA…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I can’t blame Palmer. Knapp tied everyone’s hands behind their back
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This is why AL favored the players over the coaches.
And how well has that worked out for us since 1982?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Which team is this Jason Campbell guy starting for again?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Did see a “TEAM” on Sunday who went out there and played for their undisputed leader, who had recently passed away,and who was the person responsible for their early success, and were busting their hump for their new coach/GM. Who were playing for the love of the game,and not that big fat paycheck.When their backs were against the wall stood up and kicked some ass! My beloved OAKLAND RAIDERS, nah actually the European Ryder Cup team.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Getting a kick out of this proposed Beagles wager.
My best friend is a huge Beagles fan.
He enjoys telling me how bad the Raids suck and I enjoy telling him to STFU and get busy polishing the RAID’S THREE LOMBARDI’S.
So about 15 years ago we made a bet.
The bet was that the RAIDS would win their FOURTH SB before the BEAGLES get off the schneid.
100 bucks. The money doesn’t mean squadouche. This is a pride bet.
Been sweating that one out for too gawddamned long now.
Even placed a bet on the Beagles + the points against the Patsies and thanked my buddy for his Beagles making me money and crushing his hopes of taking mine.
Sadly, those stinking green birds have won some tight games already this year and if they improve could pose a threat.
Truthfully though, I see signs that Vick is on the decline. He looked punch drunk against AZ. I don’t think the Beagles are SB material unless MV plays lights out. But I can’t/don’t count them out.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Which team is this Jason Campbell guy starting for again?
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He had a winning record here.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So you geniuses looked at the game against Denver and in your superior wisdom have determined that it is Palmer who was blame?
That is the most idiotic take I have ever read.
Sell that to anybody other than some of the retarded people with agendas on this blog and you would be laughed out of town.
THAT is what you take away from the Denver game?
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The simple like to keep it simple. Team’s not winning? Blame the QB.
Because we all know you can just take any 10 guys on the offense, any 11 on defense, pick any ole goob for your HC, insert Pro Bowl QB and bazinga! Super Bowl!
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lol bannana in the tail pipe,
THAT WAS ALL I HEARD HERE LAST YEAR JUST ADD PALMER BRING TO A BOIL AND VIOLA INTSANT OFFENSIVE POWERHOUSE AND SUPER BOWL PARADES.
this has hardly been the case
the trade is a flop unless plamer delivers the playoffs this year. he was technically brought in last year to deliver the playoffs and failed woefully, but i wont hold you palmer worshipers to that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Palmer was 9-12 for 143 in first half ….. game was 10-6
coaches blew that game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
lol bannana in the tail pipe,
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And there it is. This from the guy that accused me of name calling. True to form, you are.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
testing….
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Uh, can you get mod’d for using god?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
nevermind. don’t know what happened.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Palmer rules!
Go Raiders!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Don’t know Kaufman, my last 4 posts are all modded and I can’t figure out why.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RMAN99 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Getting a kick out of this proposed Beagles wager.
My best friend is a huge Beagles fan.
He enjoys telling me how bad the Raids suck and I enjoy telling him to STFU and get busy polishing the RAID’S THREE LOMBARDI’S.
So about 15 years ago we made a bet.
The bet was that the RAIDS would win their FOURTH SB before the BEAGLES get off the schneid.
100 bucks. The money doesn’t mean squadouche. This is a pride bet.
Been sweating that one out for too gawddamned long now.
Even placed a bet on the Beagles + the points against the Patsies and thanked my buddy for his Beagles making me money and crushing his hopes of taking mine.
Sadly, those stinking green birds have won some tight games already this year and if they improve could pose a threat.
Truthfully though, I see signs that Vick is on the decline. He looked punch drunk against AZ. I don’t think the Beagles are SB material unless MV plays lights out. But I can’t/don’t count them out.
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The Eagles are scary. Under Andy Reid, they always get it going in the second half of the season. That they’ve pulled the games out that they have against that schedule should make every NFC team very scared. Vick got his ass kicked the 1st three games behind an injury-plagued OL, but still pulled out most of them because he is a pure badass. Ask any Giant defender who he’d rather face between Brady and Vick and any guy that says Vick is a lying sack of sht.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Cause we some bad dudes JLofty!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
dang we’re gonna be horrible this year and i’m gonna have to hear mistic tell us that we said cp was the next coming of christ but he’s a bust. the few games we win not a peep about cp but if cam rgIII or russell wilson win that’s what we’ll hear about. just f it all and bring back tom walsh as OC
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
SK, I may have to whip out a can of….
“Just Fix It Baby” on Becker. You’d think a fellow IT guy would show some professional courtesy my way…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
THAT WAS ALL I HEARD HERE LAST YEAR JUST ADD PALMER BRING TO A BOIL AND VIOLA INTSANT OFFENSIVE POWERHOUSE AND SUPER BOWL PARADES.
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I will say this…you can be a funny guy. I like the wording here.
You and I both know that claim was made based on last year’s offense. Would Jason succeed with a league-worst running game and no time to throw? You and I know the answer, let’s see if you’re honest about it or if you continue to push your propaganda.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
How does mention of Tom Walsh NOT get modded?
It brings me so MUCH pain.
Oops I said it myself…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Mistic just wants to watch college football on Sundays.
I like having a pro league on Sundays myself.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Who cares where JC is at now.
But he was doing good things for this team b4 injury.. go back on utube and look at his 2011 throws.. look at that buffalo game was a shootout and he kept up.. look at the Texan game again. Even look at his 2010 games against the division.
Bottom line is Palmer hasnt really shown any real real upgrade and for 8 million dollars more.. HUE F’d up on that one
Just like HUE is coaching DBacks now.. but he was RIGHT FOR THIS TEAM in a rebuilding year last year. ROOKIE HC 8-8 season.
Raiders dont have a chance at beating ATL in ATL why? cuz they have no defense. You can be up by 2 tds with 5 mins left and ATL will still come back.
lol at playoffs this year. Raiders will be done by week 6
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
LOL JLofty!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Has DA made any statements today?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Banana, all the proof you need for results was Soup’s first game against the Titans when he looked like a rabbit surrounded by Coyotes. Once he even fell to ground untouched. Guy was JITTERY. Not that I blame him, guy took a heck of a beating in his career…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Who cares where JC is at now.
But he was doing good things for this team b4 injury.. go back on utube and look at his 2011 throws.. look at that buffalo game was a shootout and he kept up.. look at the Texan game again. Even look at his 2010 games against the division.
Bottom line is Palmer hasnt really shown any real real upgrade and for 8 million dollars more.. HUE F’d up on that one
Just like HUE is coaching DBacks now.. but he was RIGHT FOR THIS TEAM in a rebuilding year last year. ROOKIE HC 8-8 season.
Raiders dont have a chance at beating ATL in ATL why? cuz they have no defense. You can be up by 2 tds with 5 mins left and ATL will still come back.
lol at playoffs this year. Raiders will be done by week 6
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Great post!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
DA is NA today according to Jerry…
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
JLofty Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Banana, all the proof you need for results was Soup’s first game against the Titans when he looked like a rabbit surrounded by Coyotes. Once he even fell to ground untouched. Guy was JITTERY. Not that I blame him, guy took a heck of a beating in his career…
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I remember the pre season game against Da Bears when they almost knocked his head off. He was really jittery after that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
“I will say this…you can be a funny guy. I like the wording here.
You and I both know that claim was made based on last year’s offense. Would Jason succeed with a league-worst running game and no time to throw? You and I know the answer, let’s see if you’re honest about it or if you continue to push your propaganda.”
Well put Big Banana!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I liked Jason Campbell as a human being, but he was a pretty scrubby QB. So what was his excuse for losing the SF game in 2010? Scored less than 10pts and missed a WIDE open Louis Murphy for a TD on a route even Ryan Leaf could’a completed….
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
dang we’re gonna be horrible this year and i’m gonna have to hear mistic tell us that we said cp was the next coming of christ but he’s a bust. the few games we win not a peep about cp but if cam rgIII or russell wilson win that’s what we’ll hear about. just f it all and bring back tom walsh as OC
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you dont have to lie to kick it folks
i gave palmer his credit for playing better this year ask araound
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
When Mark talked about the Hue dismissal he said 8-8 wasnt good enough! Wonder what he thinks of 2-14??
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
I hope Andre Carter brought his Supaman tights cuz we’re going to need a whole BUNCH of D to stop this losing…
And maybe some Chekwa too!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
The Raiders have the worst rushing attack in the league through four games at under 61 yards per game
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Man, I hope New Orleans gives San Diego the business this week. I’m talking like 3-4 TD blow out kinda business.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
What was his record for the Raiders in the playoffs KooK?
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
cp3 has zero moblity stares down his recievers doesnt pump fake or look off the safety and he cant throw people open
but he throws a nice ball
that everybody can catch even the defense
his stats come in garbage time his 160 attemps how many of them traveled more than 10 yrds in the air
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
@309: cosign!
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Who cares where JC is at now.
But he was doing good things for this team b4 injury.. go back on utube and look at his 2011 throws.. look at that buffalo game was a shootout and he kept up.. look at the Texan game again. Even look at his 2010 games against the division.
Bottom line is Palmer hasnt really shown any real real upgrade and for 8 million dollars more.. HUE F’d up on that one
Just like HUE is coaching DBacks now.. but he was RIGHT FOR THIS TEAM in a rebuilding year last year. ROOKIE HC 8-8 season.
Raiders dont have a chance at beating ATL in ATL why? cuz they have no defense. You can be up by 2 tds with 5 mins left and ATL will still come back.
lol at playoffs this year. Raiders will be done by week 6
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Great post!
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simple honest truth jc was the man here and gave us solid raider football we could be proud of
too bad the grad fans never embraced him they missed a chance to enjoy the best football we have seen since our sb run
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
JLofty Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Banana, all the proof you need for results was Soup’s first game against the Titans when he looked like a rabbit surrounded by Coyotes. Once he even fell to ground untouched. Guy was JITTERY. Not that I blame him, guy took a heck of a beating in his career…
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Impressive what Hue did with him. Made a good chicken soup out of leftover chicken.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
you dont have to lie to kick it folks
i gave palmer his credit for playing better this year ask araound
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you had to save face, when you were bashing cp last year then he started coming around, sd charger game comes to mind, you were all of a sudden MIA. you like to dish it out, but you can’t take it
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
505, you must be a watching diff games than I
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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Awesome!
He can put it on His NFL retirement tombstone.
What a great epitaph to a phenomenal career.
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
It is great to see the racist back on the blog after a Raids loss, blowing Palmer up left and right, calling other bloggers Palmer worshipers etc, true to form.
Mistik get bent already,
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Get over it Campbell is gone!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
JLofty Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
What was his record for the Raiders in the playoffs KooK?
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He has a winning Raider record, period.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
JLofty Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Banana, all the proof you need for results was Soup’s first game against the Titans when he looked like a rabbit surrounded by Coyotes. Once he even fell to ground untouched. Guy was JITTERY. Not that I blame him, guy took a heck of a beating in his career…
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I remember the pre season game against Da Bears when they almost knocked his head off. He was really jittery after that.
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but you dont remember his 12-7 record as the starter here?
you dont remember being undefeated and punishing the division routinely?
you dont remember the come from behind victories, or winning the home opener, or wining after davis’s death or snapping the streak of the chargers against us?
you dont remember the raider scoring record he led us to?
selective memory i guess
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Afternoon Fellas…
I like Jason Campbell and supported Him and Grads while they were here.
Palmer imo is way better than both.
All for naught however.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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The dummy shoulda learned how to slide feet first, he might still be here,,, just spayyin.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
but he throws a nice ball
that everybody can catch even the defense
his stats come in garbage time his 160 attemps how many of them traveled more than 10 yrds in the air
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it’s only been four games into the season so i aint gna say he’s elite but up to this point i don’t see him as the problem. How many int’s has he thrown? how many times has he missed the open receiver? who do you suggest we trade for JC? Matt Flynn? or should we start Leinert or TP instead?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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Awesome!
He can put it on His NFL retirement tombstone.
What a great epitaph to a phenomenal career.
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Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal, name another Raider QB with a winning record in the last 10 years
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I’m not a Palmer guy.
Blasted the trade for him when it went down, even though I predicted it would happen and had CP as my MUP pick when he was still ‘on the couch’.
That said, I am pleasantly surprised by CP this year.
I was extremely fearful that we’d be seeing TIM (The Int Machine) Palmer instead of Carson Palmer.
So far – so good, on the ball security front.
CP played a great game against Pitt. Some outstanding throws in that one. He won that game for the RAIDS.
Jason Cantball NEVER won a game for the Raids with his arm.
I don’t give a fk what any of the JC supporters say.
JC was a competent game manager at times. That’s it.
I’ll never forget his game against the Whiners. Or the Titans. Or the Rams. Or the Squeelers.
JC SUCKED BEYOND BELIEF IN ALL OF THEM.
I don’t think CP is elite.
But I do KNOW beyond the shadow of any doubt that he’s light years better than Jason Cantball.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
The dummy shoulda learned how to slide feet first, he might still be here,,, just spayyin.
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LOL! Barring anything else unforeseen, I believe He would be.
Fate had other ideas.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Thec you big baby stop your whining, you’ve gotten your girl tears all over the blog
The time is NOW tol represent the Lake Show before we hang #17, don’t wanna jump on the bandwagon too late
Yo, just got some special ordered Purple N Gold XXXL jock straps from Bike, holla
It’ll accentuate my now full 1 ft. Beeeech Lawg and give Showtime mo fresh swerve
FROM THE HAND OF A MAN NAMED AC GREEN
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Laughed my a$% off when they were eliminated by the Thunder
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
POST OF THE DAY:
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Well if you ask me its Palmer’s fault that we have a first year GM HC OC that just gutted a franchise that was a perennial loser for the last 10 years.
Now we have a 32nd ranked defense with the worst special teams we have ever seen and an offensive line that cannot pass block or open holes for our RB.
And then there are the demented fans who are saying that the resolution is to put in the 3rd string rookie at QB…..makes for a long season
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Daunte Culpepper
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
OK, so you guys continue to beat that dead horse with Mistic. I propose a more practical change and that is to let Jones/Goodsen cut into McFaddens carries.
One of the cuts we had on Darren coming out of Arkansas was that he was a straight line runner with no swivel. Well, apparently cutting isn’t his thing either. 4 games of him missing holes when they are seldom there is enough for me to say let’s see what Jones can do.
Ready………complain!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I do remember Huff getting a gift in the end zone, I remember DHB breaking a tackle and taking it to the house. What was that a 10 yard pass that he turned into a 60 yard TD. The TEAM played great that game in Houston. I cant say the TEAM played great in Denver last week.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Raiders are missing that mobility at qb bad.. Im talking about being able to step up in the pocket . .escape pressure and get the first down when needed.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
you dont have to lie to kick it folks
i gave palmer his credit for playing better this year ask araound
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you had to save face, when you were bashing cp last year then he started coming around, sd charger game comes to mind, you were all of a sudden MIA. you like to dish it out, but you can’t take it
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why lie on me bra?
i was here when palmer threw the season ending pick vs the dis chargers, i said it was par for the course.
I didnt give palmer creidt for plying better to “save face” i did so because unlike most of the impostor fans i give credit where credit is due. Im not like you and others that just couldnt stand to give jc any credit for wining.
That is the difference i am not a hater. palmer plays well i will say so, i haven often because he hasnt delivered often
5-9 dude 18 picks in 14 starts…. that is awful
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@326: cosign. Liked the guy, respected the guy but he was not very good. His best attribute was sometimes he didn’t suck…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I liked glo, to bad he didn’t understand the intricacies of the feet first slide and snapped his collar bone, and has thus been relegated to the QB dust bin, sad story all around.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I don’t give a fk what any of the JC supporters say.
JC was a competent game manager at times. That’s it.
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Whatever, he won more games than Palmer did for us. Bottom line.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Reggie welcome to Oakland, thanks Reggie good luck in Green Bay! NEXT!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
and Terrelle Pryor was drafted to be quarterback of the future for the RAiders. I hope he gets at least 4 games in a Raider uni b4 decided what to do with him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
you dont remember being undefeated and punishing the division routinely?
you dont remember the come from behind victories, or winning the home opener, or wining after davis’s death or snapping the streak of the chargers against us?
you dont remember the raider scoring record he led us to?
selective memory i guess
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i think you’re smarter than this. I think you know very well it’s not a fair argument because there are so many other variables involved mainly DMAC BUSH the oline and our 7th ranked rushing offense. this year we’re ranked 31st. Do you need me to explain this to you?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I don’t give a fk what any of the JC supporters say.
JC was a competent game manager at times. That’s it.
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Whatever, he won more games than Palmer did for us. Bottom line.
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No longer here, move on, please.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Well if Ford Played hard for Palmer as he did for JC and ran the right routes last season we could have probably beat SD. just saying
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
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seriously bra, some of these impostors and their agenda bent postings are ridiculous
YOU HATE THEY ONLY GUY THAT GAVE US WINNING FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!/
wow
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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The dummy shoulda learned how to slide feet first, he might still be here,,, just spayyin.
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LMAO!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
hes washed up we are not going to win any meaningful games against a legit opponent with him so why not let the kid get his feet wet during garbage time cp3 gives us the best chance to save face thats it
is gonna be here next year i doubt it
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
you dont have to lie to kick it folks
i gave palmer his credit for playing better this year ask araound
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you had to save face, when you were bashing cp last year then he started coming around, sd charger game comes to mind, you were all of a sudden MIA. you like to dish it out, but you can’t take it
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why lie on me bra?
i was here when palmer threw the season ending pick vs the dis chargers, i said it was par for the course.
I didnt give palmer creidt for plying better to “save face” i did so because unlike most of the impostor fans i give credit where credit is due. Im not like you and others that just couldnt stand to give jc any credit for wining.
That is the difference i am not a hater. palmer plays well i will say so, i haven often because he hasnt delivered often
5-9 dude 18 picks in 14 starts…. that is awful
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Couldn’t agree more. Palmer had some moments, but you would think from reading the comments here that he was actually good last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
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seriously bra, some of these impostors and their agenda bent postings are ridiculous
YOU HATE THEY ONLY GUY THAT GAVE US WINNING FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!/
wow
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put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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Awesome!
He can put it on His NFL retirement tombstone.
What a great epitaph to a phenomenal career.
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Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal, name another Raider QB with a winning record in the last 10 years
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I’ll go back 11. Gannon.
Seriously?
Jason seems like a nice Guy, but He has done nada.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
and Terrelle Pryor was drafted to be quarterback of the future for the RAiders. I hope he gets at least 4 games in a Raider uni b4 decided what to do with him.
Does anyone else agree????
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I could care less what any guy is making, but I’d be interested to know why all the people up in arms about salries on this team have no problem with Palmer’s.
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When white players make money they deserve it. When A/A’s make money it’s welfare. That’s why.
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And when someone like yourself waits for the white woman to make the money so you can sit on your azz all day?
It’s called a blight on society, you racist POS.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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Awesome!
He can put it on His NFL retirement tombstone.
What a great epitaph to a phenomenal career.
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Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal, name another Raider QB with a winning record in the last 10 years
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Shane Lechler was 1-0 gainst cleveland last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
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LOL how people forget he was benched in favor of Bruce Almighty v. the mighty St. Louis Rams (which they won), was blown out by the Steelers, who Bruce also upset.
Please move on, please and deal with the here and now, thats half the reason wrong with the entire organization and fan base.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
you dont remember being undefeated and punishing the division routinely?
you dont remember the come from behind victories, or winning the home opener, or wining after davis’s death or snapping the streak of the chargers against us?
you dont remember the raider scoring record he led us to?
selective memory i guess
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i think you’re smarter than this. I think you know very well it’s not a fair argument because there are so many other variables involved mainly DMAC BUSH the oline and our 7th ranked rushing offense. this year we’re ranked 31st. Do you need me to explain this to you?
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you have more excuses than oj simpson
it is the same o line was last year, dmac is healthy and the defense still stinks.
Jc found a way to will this team to victory to the tune of 12-7
palmer 5-9
next
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Jason Campbell has a winning Raider record, period.
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Awesome!
He can put it on His NFL retirement tombstone.
What a great epitaph to a phenomenal career.
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Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal, name another Raider QB with a winning record in the last 10 years
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Shane Lechler was 1-0 gainst cleveland last year.
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Palmer is 1-0 v. Pittsburgh and so was Bruce Gradkowski
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
JLofty Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Daunte Culpepper
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Seriously?
2-1? Ha!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
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seriously bra, some of these impostors and their agenda bent postings are ridiculous
YOU HATE THEY ONLY GUY THAT GAVE US WINNING FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!/
wow
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put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
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ghetto, what does ghetto have to do with any of this?
drexl you grad fan piece of trash still butt hurt because jc owned you
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
you dont remember being undefeated and punishing the division routinely?
you dont remember the come from behind victories, or winning the home opener, or wining after davis’s death or snapping the streak of the chargers against us?
you dont remember the raider scoring record he led us to?
selective memory i guess
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i think you’re smarter than this. I think you know very well it’s not a fair argument because there are so many other variables involved mainly DMAC BUSH the oline and our 7th ranked rushing offense. this year we’re ranked 31st. Do you need me to explain this to you?
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you have more excuses than oj simpson
it is the same o line was last year, dmac is healthy and the defense still stinks.
Jc found a way to will this team to victory to the tune of 12-7
palmer 5-9
next
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Where’s the time machine we can go back into?
Whats the point when the dude is no longer here?
I can see if Palmer was here and Campbell was backing him up?
LMAO!? Has the season come down to lamenting Jason Campbell not being here? Like he’d solve the ZBS completely NOT working?!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
you have more excuses than oj simpson
it is the same o line was last year, dmac is healthy and the defense still stinks.
Jc found a way to will this team to victory to the tune of 12-7
palmer 5-9
next
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To bad glo skipped feet first sliding classes, we would be superbowl bound for sizzle, listening to the “bra” that posted this drivle, holla!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
and Terrelle Pryor was drafted to be quarterback of the future for the RAiders. I hope he gets at least 4 games in a Raider uni b4 decided what to do with him.
Does anyone else agree????
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i agree but i think you pull the plug on palmer if we lose to atl.
No way people will continue to shell out hard earned cash to watch captain bungles lead us to 3-13
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
JLofty Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@326: cosign. Liked the guy, respected the guy but he was not very good. His best attribute was sometimes he didn’t suck…
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I just remember his look of total fear v. the Niners in Candestick, in fact Bush even got punked in that game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
JC lovers must sound like the Broncos fans who point to Tebow’s record being better than Manning’s there.
Or Browns fans who cry over not having Derek Anderson there, because he had one winning season and made the playoffs and everything.
Or Jaguars fans lamenting the loss of David Garrard.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
TheOne Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
And when someone like yourself waits for the white woman to make the money so you can sit on your azz all day?
It’s called a blight on society, you racist POS.
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I bet I could buy your useless Troll life…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
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LOL how people forget he was benched in favor of Bruce Almighty v. the mighty St. Louis Rams (which they won), was blown out by the Steelers, who Bruce also upset.
Please move on, please and deal with the here and now, thats half the reason wrong with the entire organization and fan base.
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Palmer has been blown out by how many teams now?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JC was alright, if you like a QB whose tongue unfurls to his knees. And why was fool always licking his fingers. Reminds of that scum, Drew Breeze.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JC’s 3 worst games (in two short seasons) were WORSE than ANYTHING JaMarcus ever put up.
He was THAT bad vs elite teams.
See: JC vs Steelers and CP vs Steelers.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A team that lost 11 or more for 7 straight years?
Yeah a Raider Qb with a winning record during the Raider disaster era, Yeah is noteworthy.
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seriously bra, some of these impostors and their agenda bent postings are ridiculous
YOU HATE THEY ONLY GUY THAT GAVE US WINNING FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!/
wow
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put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
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ghetto, what does ghetto have to do with any of this?
drexl you grad fan piece of trash still butt hurt because jc owned you
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worthless racist trailer trash, how in the fug did glo “own” me? The only thing glo owned was a broken collar bone and a one way ticket to the qb trash bin.
You are a dummy, just like the dummy who couldn’t slide feet first.
suck it “bra”.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
. Im not like you and others that just couldnt stand to give jc any credit for wining.
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once again a statement of yours that is 100% false! I liked what I saw of JC at Wash thought he was a steal for us to trade a pic for him (was it a 4th or a 7th?) but he sucked at first and there’s no denying that fact. Not until year two did he start to come around when he finally learned to take more calculated risks throwing the ball and our team was playoff bound and most were singing his praises. He got injured for the year and we got a glimpse of what Boller can do so many of us including myself were happy that we got a replacement to hopefully salvage our season. Who would have known DMAC would go down and Bush would wear down? Who would have known that our D would let Detroit and SD in the final games score at will on us? I think you want to believe that everyone in here hated JC and loves CP which is not the case. The truth is JC sucked, we saw it, he came around we were happy, he went down and a lot of us were happy we didn’t have to wait around a year for a competent qb. don’t know why you want to convince yourself that we hated jc or want to give yourself credit as the only raider fan that liked jc but it’s not the case, hate to break it to you
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
good point.
Palmer vs Steelers = impressive win.
Bruce vs Steelers = win.
JC vs Steelers = benching in 3rd quarter, blowout loss.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201210/al-davis-just-win-baby-murray-olderman-oakland-raiders-nfl
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JC’s 3 worst games (in two short seasons) were WORSE than ANYTHING JaMarcus ever put up.
He was THAT bad vs elite teams.
See: JC vs Steelers and CP vs Steelers.
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score board folks
jc = 12-7 undefeated in the afc west (he owned our division).
palmer = 5-9 2-4 in the division with more picks than games played as a raider
Im know math major but it looks like jc did a far better job as the qb
just the facts ma’am
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Has ANYONE EVER seen a new QB in town (JC 2010) get BENCHED by the 3rd quarter of GAME 2 of the season?!?!?!
That was kinda hilarious, you gotta admit.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
score board folks
jc = 12-7 undefeated in the afc west (he owned our division).
palmer = 5-9 2-4 in the division with more picks than games played as a raider
Im know math major but it looks like jc did a far better job as the qb
just the facts ma’am
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trent dilfer 1 superbowl, cam newton 0
brad johnson 1 superbowl, michael vick 0
SCOREBOARD!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Thank you Mistic,
Alex Smith = better record vs NFC West in his career than…
Joe Montana!
Scoreboard people! (What a moronic sample of stats)
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Trent Dilfer greater than Dan Marino.
SuperBowl!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
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ghetto, what does ghetto have to do with any of this?
drexl you grad fan piece of trash still butt hurt because jc owned you
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worthless racist trailer trash, how in the fug did glo “own” me? The only thing glo owned was a broken collar bone and a one way ticket to the qb trash bin.
You are a dummy, just like the dummy who couldn’t slide feet first.
suck it “bra”.
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jc owned you. you said grad was better and would beat him out he didnt. in fact jc made this team a winner, you were wrong grad fan and you still cant get over.
dont be a sore loser, you cant help the loser part, but you dont have to be sore
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Guess what everyone? Palmer is starting @ ATL.
STFU !!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Fellas, if you keep responding to this person it will never freaking end. He is this blogs Skip Bayless.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Campbell was 11 – 7
Palmer is 5 – 8
That’s the bottom line
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Peleees mistic the racist, I never said ish about grads v JC, actually couldn’t stand that bald headed sap.
You just keep on doing what you do, racist fug.
I’m going out now to call random people I meet on the street a “bra”, hope i don’t get clocked by some angry redneck.
Just spayyin.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
379.KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Campbell was 11 – 7
Palmer is 5 – 8
That’s the bottom line
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A tad bit simplistic no?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Jason Campbell was so good that he got benched for Bruce Gradkowski.
Hue knew !
Jason Campbell is so good that he grabbed the first offer he got to go sit on the bench in Chi-town.
Jason is a good teammate. Jason has my eternal gratitude for being a professional during the lock-out and enabling the RAIDS to finally kick JaMoron to the curb and out of the NFL.
Thank you, Mr Campbell.
Jason however is not a very good QB. I give him credit for knowing his limitations. I do not begrudge him being Captain Checkdown. It’s allowed him to stay in the NFL as a backup. I do not begrudge him for taking the money to hold a clipboard in Chicago.
I wish JC the best but don’t miss him as the RAID QB.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Has ANYONE EVER seen a new QB in town (JC 2010) get BENCHED by the 3rd quarter of GAME 2 of the season?!?!?!
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Campbell was 11 – 7
Palmer is 5 – 8
That’s the bottom line
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
my concern with jc and cp3 is that i saw jc as a guy that has more years left in the tank where as cp3 is past his prime and this is as good as its gonna get hue system was his best chance at catching some glory but hues gone and were stuck trying to push a square peg into a round hole
sucks
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
379.KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Campbell was 11 – 7
Palmer is 5 – 8
That’s the bottom line
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A tad bit simplistic no?
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What are we to go by, woulda, shoulda, coulda????????
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
In fact I know I would never have sided with MR a known Grad disciple, you are the racist loser, “bra”.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
let’s just keep going with Mistic’s moroning statement:
DONALD HOLLAS (4-2) has a better career Raider win % than JC
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Mistic – if you add Jason to this offense, sprinkle with salt and pepper, then bake at 350 for 20 minutes, do we now have a winning team? Be truthful. No propaganda.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Whats A Drexl?
Ans. A dumbass troll.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
505raiders Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
my concern with jc and cp3 is that i saw jc as a guy that has more years left in the tank where as cp3 is past his prime and this is as good as its gonna get hue system was his best chance at catching some glory but hues gone and were stuck trying to push a square peg into a round hole
sucks
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And regretting it now in 2012 with two coaches that aren’t here either helps HOW?
wouldnt the analysis be “When do we start Terrelle Pryor and consider this season a wash?” v. the Jaguars? v. the Chiefs?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
So, according to Mistic, Raider QBs go like this:
Donald Hollas (67% wins)
Ken Stabler (lifetime 66% wins)
JC (63% wins)
Period. Scoreboard. Whatever.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Clearly based on KoolKell’s criteria, Donald Hollas is a better QB than Jason Campbell.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
let’s just keep going with Mistic’s moroning statement:
DONALD HOLLAS (4-2) has a better career Raider win % than JC
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LOL that was the guy that said f4%k you! to Gruden after he got pulled in the Miami game at the Coliseum … classic
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
“let’s just keep going with Mistic’s moroning statement:
DONALD HOLLAS (4-2) has a better career Raider win % than JC”
LMFAO good one!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
you mean clyde the glide drexl that dude could dunk so smooth and his dunks looked sick
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
“KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Has ANYONE EVER seen a new QB in town (JC 2010) get BENCHED by the 3rd quarter of GAME 2 of the season?!?!?!
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Campbell was 11 – 7
Palmer is 5 – 8
That’s the bottom line”
NO I think the bottom line is Palmer will be starting an NFL game week 6 in Atlanta while Jason Campbell will be holding a clipboard standing on the sidelines backing up the ever so popular Jay Cuntler!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Donald Hollas
clap, clap, clap/clap/clap
Donald Hollas
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
# DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
245.inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
don’t tell me you like tavaris jackson too?
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Of course. He has one important quality/feature that Brady, Rodgers and the Manning bros. don’t have.
Can u guess what it is?
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At first I was thinking Super Bowl ring, then figured, nah, that can’t be it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
wouldnt the analysis be “When do we start Terrelle Pryor and consider this season a wash?” v. the Jaguars? v. the Chiefs?
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If that’s what you want to do, nobody is stopping you.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
388.The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Mistic – if you add Jason to this offense, sprinkle with salt and pepper, then bake at 350 for 20 minutes, do we now have a winning team? Be truthful. No propaganda.
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Kinda depends on…Would JC have resigned for $4-5M a year opposed to Palmer’s $12M?
The extra $8M+/- could have gotten us a TE and CB or other positions of need.
A first round draft pick talent would have been nice this year (with Reggie drafting)
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
So, according to Mistic, Raider QBs go like this:
Donald Hollas (67% wins)
Ken Stabler (lifetime 66% wins)
JC (63% wins)
Period. Scoreboard. Whatever.
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Lol!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
“Clearly based on KoolKell’s criteria, Donald Hollas is a better QB than Jason Campbell.”
I have to agree with Dakota on this!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
NO I think the bottom line is Palmer will be starting an NFL game week 6 in Atlanta while Jason Campbell will be holding a clipboard standing on the sidelines backing up the ever so popular Jay Cuntler!
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For fans like you, yes.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
In fact I know I would never have sided with MR a known Grad disciple, you are the racist loser, “bra”.
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i thought you were mr
doesnt matter you are just as retarded
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
With Donald Hollas, Wade Wilson, and Jeff George each starting 3 games in 1999,
Gruden got the Raiders off to a 7-3 start.
Wow.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
you keep responding to this person it will never freaking end. He is this blogs Skip Bayless.
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nice, and kell is like a girl who used to be fu#kable showing cleavage so someone might approach her
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
So, according to Mistic, Raider QBs go like this:
Donald Hollas (67% wins)
Ken Stabler (lifetime 66% wins)
JC (63% wins)
Period. Scoreboard. Whatever.
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Lol!!!
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did hollas start 19 games?
stop it
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
“Clearly based on KoolKell’s criteria, Donald Hollas is a better QB than Jason Campbell.”
I have to agree with Dakota on this!
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Well, sad to see this, for Dakota’s sake. Lol.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
388.The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Mistic – if you add Jason to this offense, sprinkle with salt and pepper, then bake at 350 for 20 minutes, do we now have a winning team? Be truthful. No propaganda.
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Kinda depends on…Would JC have resigned for $4-5M a year opposed to Palmer’s $12M?
The extra $8M+/- could have gotten us a TE and CB or other positions of need.
A first round draft pick talent would have been nice this year (with Reggie drafting)
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pointless make believe scenario
hue did this, it cost him his job and cost us the playoffs this season
THANKS HUE
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the team is still floundering, I’d skip right past Leinart, and run TP out there.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
388.The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Mistic – if you add Jason to this offense, sprinkle with salt and pepper, then bake at 350 for 20 minutes, do we now have a winning team? Be truthful. No propaganda.
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Kinda depends on…Would JC have resigned for $4-5M a year opposed to Palmer’s $12M?
The extra $8M+/- could have gotten us a TE and CB or other positions of need.
A first round draft pick talent would have been nice this year (with Reggie drafting)
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and going 6-10 down the stretch with Kyle Boller would’ve REALLY sat well with the Nation, too.
well, could’ve got us; Ryan Tannenhill, Morris Claiborne or WR Michael Floyd
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
you keep responding to this person it will never freaking end. He is this blogs Skip Bayless.
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nice, and kell is like a girl who used to be fu#kable showing cleavage so someone might approach her
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Fresh out of anything intelligent to say, Dumbass? Lol.
-You lose.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Mistic
you wrote “period” after your win % argument. Can’t change it now to some 19 minimum games olive bologna.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
With Donald Hollas, Wade Wilson, and Jeff George each starting 3 games in 1999,
Gruden got the Raiders off to a 7-3 start.
Wow.
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tells you either Gruden was good, or teams were a lot worse back then.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
dont think pryor should be starting got to take baby steps soon as the games out of reach why not put him in for a quater
the atlanta game has a strong possiblity of getting out of hand quick
but by midseason if were still clinging on to 1 or 2 wins than why not start him and gameplan to his strengths why waste time
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I would rather have last year’s FIRST meaningful playoff-possible season in 10 years over Tannenhill, Claiborne, or Floyd.
Hue, thank you for the trade that gave us our most enjoyable season since 2002.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Saw enough of JC to know he’s a mediocre QB at best.
No point in arguing about it. He’s holding a clipboard in Chicago now anyways, right ?
Now if you tell me the Raids just hired JC to be the OC and fired Krappy… that would be something worth discussing.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
New regime sux!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I would rather have last year’s FIRST meaningful playoff-possible season in 10 years over Tannenhill, Claiborne, or Floyd.
Hue, thank you for the trade that gave us our most enjoyable season since 2002
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Had Hue just showered, waited and calmed down and not ranted on about “I want even more control”, he’d probably would still be here.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
and going 6-10 down the stretch with Kyle Boller would’ve REALLY sat well with the Nation, too.
well, could’ve got us; Ryan Tannenhill, Morris Claiborne or WR Michael Floyd
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True, but in my world we would have resigned Bruce Gradkowski, he would have been a “nice” backup up QB and minded his P&Qs, no B.S. There would have been no Boller!
I bet even Mistic could stomach Bruce G. as the backup QB over the Palmer trade…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Lets hope Palmer can win more games and the Faiders resign him to a huge CONTRACT . I want to see more INTs’ and 0-10 3rd down conversions ! Here’s to 10 more years of being losers !
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Agree
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
410.RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the team is still floundering, I’d skip right past Leinart, and run TP out there.
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That is crazy talk! You put Leinart out there, he will only last a quarter anyways and get hurt and go on IR…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
My scouting! Geno was awsome but must have an awsome line as well! Could use all these! Austin Wr or the other from VT! The two LB from Wisconsin are dynamite! The fullback from Idaho to backup DMC
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Easiest way to kill the J. Campbell arguement? Runing game was top 5 in league.
Now dead last less than 61 a game rushing
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Geez.
Seems I’m the only one with any optimism that the season can be salvaged by DA making on HONEST assessment of things and “adjusting” things based on that.
I am still holding out a glimmer of hope that DA will do this.
If I see McClain starting against Atlanta, or if later in the week we hear DA say; “Well, we carefully analyzed the first 4 games and I don’t see anything we need to change as far as our schemes or playcalling, and our defense just needs to make plays and execute better”. Then…I give up the season.
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I co-sign.
It is all about wheter DA really gives an “honest assesment”
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
This is a team game, from the coaching staff to the players, this is a team effort. Trying to blame individuals, such as CP3, is not fair or accurate.
CP3 playing hard out there, as are a handful of other players.. unfortunately, there is a divide between the offense and coaching staff.
Without a running game and oline, we don’t have the scheme, talent, or intelligence on the sidelines to pull this off.
I feel like the coaching staff is trying to figure things out as they go.. Dennis Allen looks in over his head, and Greg Knapp looks oblivious.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Raiders are missing that mobility at qb bad.. Im talking about being able to step up in the pocket . .escape pressure and get the first down when needed
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Come on man!!! Dmac can’t even hit the hole and he is supposed to be an ELITE running back.
I do not care if Bo, Hershel, or Barry Snders was our back right now the play starts 3 yds in the backfield and the O-line is getting blown the fvck up.
Come on now!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
O-line is the most important part of a team in my humble opinion. They make below par RBs and QBs look average, help the defense by controlling the ball and make 3rd down conversions possible. QB is next, as he has to inspire the team with his play and leadership.
We allowed Tom Cable to get rid of OL Kevin Boothe and he is still in the league playing for the Giants. A great coach builds a system around and that fits their talent. A system coach often works with journeyman type players and gets average or better overall production from them as a unit, but generally does not develop individual talents to their max
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:17 am
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