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DHB says everything going according to plan

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey took another step toward a seemingly inevitable return on Oct. 14 by participating in practice Tuesday.

“Just out there, running routes, catching the ball, getting in a little practice,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “We’ve got a plan for me. Today was step No. 1, and I feel pretty good.’’

Heyward-Bey was knocked unconscious on Sept. 23 against the Pittsburgh Steelers by Ryan Mundy and also suffered a neck strain when he hit the ground. He was taken from the field in a motorized cart.

Asked if he was 100 percent, Heyward-Bey said, “I took a hard hit, man. I don’t know. (I was) good enough to practice.’’

Teammate Derek Hagan was happy to see Heyward-Bey back for a position group which has had its issues with injuries.

“It definitely was a plus for us just to have the whole group out there healthy going into the bye week,’’ Hagan said. “That’s the main thing going into the bye week you want everybody to be healthy and focusing on the job they have to do.’’

Despite the lopsided nature of a 37-6 loss to Denver, Heyward-Bey believes the offense is close to breaking loose.

`We’re real close. We’re one cut block away, we’re one cut away, one block down the field,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ We showed a little bit of it against Pittsburgh and we had a little bit here and there. You just have to keep grinding. If you give up on things you’ll never see if it’s good or not.’’

– Ranked No. 2 in the NFL in rushing in 2010 and No. 7 in 2011, the Raiders are ranked dead last through four games with an average of 60.8 yards per game.

It’s less than half of the 131.9 yards per game Oakland averaged a year ago.

“It’s not where you want to be,’’ running back Mike Goodson said. “We’ve got a lot of competitors in here and it’s not sitting right with guys. We’re definitely out there working.’’

– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) and tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) did not practice and remain out indefinitely.

– The Raiders practice again Wednesday, and then are off through Sunday. They return to work Monday and take another day off before preparations for Atlanta begin in earnest.

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  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    I agree that not challenging the third down spot was the turning point in the game.

    Obviously the Raiders had decided to defer the kickoff to the second half if they won the toss. By not challenging the spot that tactic went up in smoke, along with any chance of remaining competitive in the game. . .

    And Mistic, how in the Hell did DHB get “benched,” as you say when he ultimately barely missed a 1,000 yard season & was the Raiders leading statistical receiver? What are you smoking? You really should share. . .

    I think most of we Raider fans have been pragmatic regarding the fate of the 2012 Raider team. We just didn’t expect a return to the Art Shell days. Of course most of us are NOT satisfied with Greg Knapp. But you are dellusional in thinking JC is better than CP. It’s unbelivable the hatred you display for CP. You are by no means an objective fan. You are completely driven by unabridged emotion. So, there you go. . .hopefully, as DA said the ZBS is “on the table.” That would be a start. How else does one explain the downfall (so far) of the Raiders OL (regression in it’s most pure form). . .

    It’s the defense, lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball & the OL & DL woefully underperforming. . .not CP. He hasn’t thrown many pciks & his mastering of the no huddle was the prime reason they beat the Steelers (sans some of their playmakers; Polamalu & Harrison). .

    So you have to be a realist, something not in your DNA. . .I predicted 6-10 or 7-9 this year. The only outcome I didn’t have right before the season started was the (dis)Charger result. I thought they would be 2-2 @ this point. So I’m not far off. But I’m certainly not hopeful. . .never harbored any expectations of a playoff contending year. . .

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    uh oh dont look now but my boy EJ MANUAL is now starting to garner some hiesman hype, and is moving up draft boards.

    This kid was the single most under appreciated qb in the country coming into the season in my view. Many jumped on the GENO SMITH train only after his amazing bowl performance, but if you had watched him at all for the last 3 years you already knew he was a major talent.

    manual on the other hand was injured and fsu has done him no favors in terms of helping him develop. I strongly believe that with good coaching he can be as good or better than cam newton. he isnt the runner that cam is but he is more polished as a passer, he is only the all time accc comp % leader.

    he is tough as they come playing the bowl game on a broken leg and leading a last second win. he is smart with the ball and clutch. Most impressive about the following stat line the completion percentage, the eye popping yards per attempt and td to interception ratio. These numbers tell me that he throws the ball down field and reads coverages as well as any qb in the country, and already has mastered the balance between being a play maker, game manger, and pocket passer.

    If we dont get geno, or pryor is not the answer please give me this kid

    88 / 120 73.3 cmp% 1147yds 9.56 ypa 9tds 1 int 176.7qbr

    rushing: 34 att 197yds 5.8 avg 1 td

    proof of the clutch gene

    3rd down his rating is 164.2!!!

    4th quarter his rating is an other worldly 198.7!!!

    these are the most important stats for a qb

    EJ IS FOR REAL

  • DMAC

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    1 more A’s!
    Let’s get it!

  • DMAC

    What the hell happened to the green party?
    Am I the last man standing?
    I guess only the strong survive…
    Naw, I’m just kidding.
    Bring back the green party!!

  • The Big Banana

    DMAC Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    1 more A’s!
    Let’s get it!

    ——–

    DMAC, tell the A’s to send some of that mojo on over to their roommates.

  • DMAC

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am

    DMAC Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    1 more A’s!
    Let’s get it!

    ——–

    DMAC, tell the A’s to send some of that mojo on over to their roommates.
    =========

    I fk’n tried already. It doesn’t seem to be working.
    lol

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    That was one of the dumbest articles ever written. lst off “if” Jackson made the playoffs? Jackson basically went 0-5 down the stretch when it mattered most. AND Jackson was getting rolled badly. Right there it says he could not compete with other coaches OR his team quit on him or BOTH.

    McFadden would have MORE yardage? McFadden took last year off with some “injury” that took 8 weeks to diagnose. Most likely mcFadden was one of those players that quit on Jackson.

    Did Jackson immediately go back to Baltimore or New England or some other highly successful franchise just waiting to rehire him? NO. He went to the perennial doormat Cincinnatti Bungholes because no one else would hire him. For good reason. Anyone pining over Hue jackson is a complete moron. Sorry.

  • R8ER MIKE

    DMAC Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
    What the hell happened to the green party?
    Am I the last man standing?
    I guess only the strong survive…
    Naw, I’m just kidding.
    Bring back the green party!!

    ****************
    DMAC !!
    said good afternoon a while ago to the GreenParty and got no responce.
    good day Mr President !!

  • DMAC

    Jackson = a great play caller

    I would bring em back to run the offense. Thats about it.

  • YoungAmerican

    Mistic -

    I want to see EJ continue to improve – there were a few games last season where he was not so impressive.

    I like Geno Smith better as an overall prospect – better footwork, patience in the pocket, and short/intermediate accuracy – but EJ has definitely surprised.

    Tyler Wilson’s concussion history really concerns me, and Matt Barkley just isn’t very good. He’s pretty much Jimmy Clausen.

    As much as I think Palmer hasn’t been the problem with the Raiders’ offense this season; if Smith keeps playing the way he has been, the Raiders find themselves in a position to draft him, and their scouts and the folks in the front office think he’s a guy who can be the future for the Raiders, I’d love to see him be the pick.

  • RaidingTexas

    Well stated, Seymour. I remember some idiot around here telling me last December if Hue got fired, he would be rehired as a HC or OC in a heartbeat at another team. Instead, he’s a DB positions coach. LMAO

  • DMAC

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am

    DMAC Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
    What the hell happened to the green party?
    Am I the last man standing?
    I guess only the strong survive…
    Naw, I’m just kidding.
    Bring back the green party!!

    ****************
    DMAC !!
    said good afternoon a while ago to the GreenParty and got no responce.
    good day Mr President !!
    =========

    ODB!!
    What up man?
    How you been?
    Elections are nearing. We’ll need those electoral votes. Your in charge of sending the green packages in the East coast.
    Make us proud!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    antispy3 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am

    I agree that not challenging the third down spot was the turning point in the game.

    Obviously the Raiders had decided to defer the kickoff to the second half if they won the toss. By not challenging the spot that tactic went up in smoke, along with any chance of remaining competitive in the game. . .

    And Mistic, how in the Hell did DHB get “benched,” as you say when he ultimately barely missed a 1,000 yard season & was the Raiders leading statistical receiver? What are you smoking? You really should share. . .

    I think most of we Raider fans have been pragmatic regarding the fate of the 2012 Raider team. We just didn’t expect a return to the Art Shell days. Of course most of us are NOT satisfied with Greg Knapp. But you are dellusional in thinking JC is better than CP. It’s unbelivable the hatred you display for CP. You are by no means an objective fan. You are completely driven by unabridged emotion. So, there you go. . .hopefully, as DA said the ZBS is “on the table.” That would be a start. How else does one explain the downfall (so far) of the Raiders OL (regression in it’s most pure form). . .

    It’s the defense, lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball & the OL & DL woefully underperforming. . .not CP. He hasn’t thrown many pciks & his mastering of the no huddle was the prime reason they beat the Steelers (sans some of their playmakers; Polamalu & Harrison). .

    So you have to be a realist, something not in your DNA. . .I predicted 6-10 or 7-9 this year. The only outcome I didn’t have right before the season started was the (dis)Charger result. I thought they would be 2-2 @ this point. So I’m not far off. But I’m certainly not hopeful. . .never harbored any expectations of a playoff contending year. . .
    ======================

    my post made no claims about which qb was better (although you already know what i think) i simply recounted the chain of events and the results since.

    DHB and kevin boss were mysteriously benched for a week, it was widely reported that DHb was not happy about palmer joining the team and the way JC was treated. In my eyes the benching was punitive and petty on hues part. this was the second donkey game last year look it up.

    My post did not place blame on palmer for this seasons woes, only pointed out the heart ache that is associated with a rebuild, and the shock of those that denied what was obvious. palmer is actually doing the best he can, and if he didnt play the way he is now the season would be far far worse. His best simply isnt good enough to save this season.

    If i remember you were one that didnt think it was a rebuild and palmer would lead us deep into the playoffs.

    dont shoot the messenger

  • YoungAmerican

    Seymour – doesn’t seem like you read the article very carefully. It was in no way saying that Hue still being around would make a difference for the Raiders. Just the opposite, in fact.

  • R8ER MIKE

    lol… will do sir !!

  • 2romes

    So the Writer is saying a better running game with a healthy McFadden leads Palmer to throw more or the same amount of interceptions? What is it? You can’t have your cake and it to. The writer to come to the scenario of 1-3 for both coaches at the end of game four don’t have a leg to stand on. All I think he is saying in the article is give Reggie and DA time.

    I also think it is untrue that the writer said Hue Jackson’s offensive took time. the Raiders had an Identity from the Start. How else could McFaaden be the leading rusher through game six?
    Reggie / DA supporters including the writer nice try but try again!

  • guest123

    http://www.chargers.com/team/depth-chart.html

    Norv Turner and AJ Smith running the Chargers into the ground. They have promoted Jackie Battle as the starter over Ryan Mathews. LMAO

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    DMAC Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Jackson = a great play caller

    I would bring em back to run the offense. Thats about it.
    ===========================================

    If Jackson was as great a play caller as some of you think, Janikowsky would not have had such a great year. Jackson would set up for FG’s not TD’s. That’s one of the reasons why we lost. And let’s not even start about the goose eggs he kept putting up in the 2nd half of games.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    YoungAmerican Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Seymour – doesn’t seem like you read the article very carefully. It was in no way saying that Hue still being around would make a difference for the Raiders. Just the opposite, in fact.
    =========================================

    No I did get that, but still I don’t want to hear Jackson was waaaay better, or that the players would have played harder. We saw it, they didn’t.

  • YoungAmerican

    An offense based around a vertical passing game and low-percentage throws = more picks for Palmer.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am

    That was one of the dumbest articles ever written. lst off “if” Jackson made the playoffs? Jackson basically went 0-5 down the stretch when it mattered most. AND Jackson was getting rolled badly. Right there it says he could not compete with other coaches OR his team quit on him or BOTH.
    ===============

    wow bra. You have left out the fact that hu jack lost his starting qb, many teams have tanked when the starter goes out. ask the colts, or what about kitna subbing for romo. ther is a huge drop off in most cases when the starter goes out. Although you may not want to admit this but the starting qb had the offense in high gear, palmer be it rust or lack of knowledge in the playbook wasnt really able to match or sustain what jc started. i dont simply mean the stats but the leadership and winning too.

    You lose your starting qb and 9 times out of 10 it will be painful

  • DMAC

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    DMAC Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Jackson = a great play caller

    I would bring em back to run the offense. Thats about it.
    ===========================================

    If Jackson was as great a play caller as some of you think, Janikowsky would not have had such a great year. Jackson would set up for FG’s not TD’s. That’s one of the reasons why we lost. And let’s not even start about the goose eggs he kept putting up in the 2nd half of games.
    =============

    Who would you have running the offense right about now?

    Hue or Knapp?
    Its not even close.
    Knapp came in wit this BS zone scheme. Totally fked our offense up.
    Last year the problem wasn’t the offense, it was the defense.
    This year its both.

  • DutchRaider77

    @YoungAmerican
    So you agree with Mistic that all that ails the Raiders offense is a bad QB?

    That our running game isn’t the fault of the O-Line or McFadden, but Palmer…

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Hue jack started the ball rolling deconstructing davis’s raiders when he brought in palmer, the qb that davis vetoed in the off season. ” palmer and knapp will need to produce big time “=================================So now it’s revisionist history and slander by association. This is freaking hilarious. I’d say you can’t make this kind of sh1t up, except mistic does.

  • DaRaiders022

    YEAH!!!!! The A’s are the embodiment of what Oakland is all about. The Raiders need to hang around the A’s more often to learn what it means to have some heart!

    A’s = team with ballplayers who make plays and are knocking on the door of the ALCS! Raiders Take Notice!!