DHB says everything going according to plan
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey took another step toward a seemingly inevitable return on Oct. 14 by participating in practice Tuesday.
“Just out there, running routes, catching the ball, getting in a little practice,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “We’ve got a plan for me. Today was step No. 1, and I feel pretty good.’’
Heyward-Bey was knocked unconscious on Sept. 23 against the Pittsburgh Steelers by Ryan Mundy and also suffered a neck strain when he hit the ground. He was taken from the field in a motorized cart.
Asked if he was 100 percent, Heyward-Bey said, “I took a hard hit, man. I don’t know. (I was) good enough to practice.’’
Teammate Derek Hagan was happy to see Heyward-Bey back for a position group which has had its issues with injuries.
“It definitely was a plus for us just to have the whole group out there healthy going into the bye week,’’ Hagan said. “That’s the main thing going into the bye week you want everybody to be healthy and focusing on the job they have to do.’’
Despite the lopsided nature of a 37-6 loss to Denver, Heyward-Bey believes the offense is close to breaking loose.
`We’re real close. We’re one cut block away, we’re one cut away, one block down the field,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ We showed a little bit of it against Pittsburgh and we had a little bit here and there. You just have to keep grinding. If you give up on things you’ll never see if it’s good or not.’’
– Ranked No. 2 in the NFL in rushing in 2010 and No. 7 in 2011, the Raiders are ranked dead last through four games with an average of 60.8 yards per game.
It’s less than half of the 131.9 yards per game Oakland averaged a year ago.
“It’s not where you want to be,’’ running back Mike Goodson said. “We’ve got a lot of competitors in here and it’s not sitting right with guys. We’re definitely out there working.’’
– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) and tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) did not practice and remain out indefinitely.
– The Raiders practice again Wednesday, and then are off through Sunday. They return to work Monday and take another day off before preparations for Atlanta begin in earnest.
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October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
uno
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Being that Pryor is clearly worse, a lot worse, than CP, what is the rush to watch an already bad team play even worse?
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the team is still floundering, I’d skip right past Leinart, and run TP out there.
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I wouldnt wait that long, if we are 1-4, 1-5 or 2-6 we need to start evaluating TP6 in a hurry, and let palmer evaluate the bench
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Shawntae Spencer
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just promote Chimdi and sign a vet cb, can’t be worse than Lee Hanson and Huff
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Doesn’t ANYONE believe that MAYBE, just maybe, two different staffs have looked at Pryor over two years, practice after practice, pre-season game after pre-season game, and said…
“He’s really not good…at all.”
I mean, that’s the reality of what’s happened and all, if anyone cares.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
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October 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Being that Pryor is clearly worse, a lot worse, than CP, what is the rush to watch an already bad team play even worse?
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im not sure pryor is worse, he badly outplayed every qb on our roster in the pre season and his skill set is a sure fire fit for this wco.
i think he would make dmac and reece better as his boot leg threat would suddenly open running lanes for the stretch play, that dont exist with mr instant up grade at the helm
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Doesn’t ANYONE believe that MAYBE, just maybe, two different staffs have looked at Pryor over two years, practice after practice, pre-season game after pre-season game, and said…
“He’s really not good…at all.”
I mean, that’s the reality of what’s happened and all, if anyone cares.
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Agreed!All TP has done is have a good 2nd half vs DET in a preseason game. He would get torn up against # 1’s…at least at this point.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Why is it assumed that TP hasn’t been evaluated for almost 2 YEARS of practices now?
“He…sucks” says Hue, Saunders, 31 other GMs, Allen, McKenzie, Knapp, Jerry Mac, Corkran…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
424.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
410.RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the team is still floundering, I’d skip right past Leinart, and run TP out there.
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That is crazy talk! You put Leinart out there, he will only last a quarter anyways and get hurt and go on IR…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the team is still floundering, I’d skip right past Leinart, and run TP out there.
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I wouldnt wait that long, if we are 1-4, 1-5 or 2-6 we need to start evaluating TP6 in a hurry, and let palmer evaluate the bench
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As of today, I see no way the Raiders bench a healthy Palmer in favor of TP.
Regardless of record.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Please don’t Play Pryor . I like these Carson Palmer led Faiders . They play just like him LOSERS ! Oakland Bungoles
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
That is crazy talk! You put Leinart out there, he will only last a quarter anyways and get hurt and go on IR…
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LOL! Ya don’t wanna step on His toes and get Him all bent out of shape.
Just let the natural order of things take it’s course.lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
LOL at Mistic impressed by Pryor’s preseason.
Meanwhile, press says:
“What a disastrous start to Terrelle Pryor’s NFL career.
It’s been 20 months since the former Ohio State star was destroying Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl, and his highly anticipated debut was supposed to be must-see TV for Oakland Raiders fans looking for a glimpse into the future.
Pryor fell flat on his face Monday night.
PRYOR LOOKED LIKE A CHICKEN WITH HIS HEAD CUT OFF. Pryor was scrambling on almost every single dropback, and would run five to 10 yards behind the line to avoid the rush like he was in a Madden video game.
He was 8-of-15 for 50 yards and one interception. It was clear he looked overmatched in virtually every conceivable way.”
-actual write up.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Super Charged Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Please don’t Play Pryor . I like these Carson Palmer led Faiders . They play just like him LOSERS ! Oakland Bungoles
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Enjoy it now…SD will CHOKE in the end….like always
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
In this corner…a random Raider fan!
In the other corner…Hue Jackson, Al Saunders, 31 other GMs, D. Allen, R. McKenzie, Knapp, Jerry Mac, Corkran, everyone else who saw him running around scared on every pass attempt in pre-season…
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Thats a good idea take 6 days off who needs to practice when your this good!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
-Q: What’s it like working with Carson?
-PRYOR: As a person, he’s one of the best people I’ve ever met, the way
he handles his work but he also gets into my technique to fix what I
did wrong. He’s great. I couldn’t ask for anyone better.
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
then why is he on the roster why isnt he learning to run routes or learning to block so he can be a te
cp3 time is now not next year or the year after now either push knap aside or cp3 cuz they dont go together
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I’m impressed By the Great Carson Palmers Elite play! Hopefully he is still playing at the end of the season so Rivers can give him a proper beat down ! 4 -12 losers once again ! lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Why is it assumed that TP hasn’t been evaluated for almost 2 YEARS of practices now?
“He…sucks” says Hue, Saunders, 31 other GMs, Allen, McKenzie, Knapp, Jerry Mac, Corkran…
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who cares what cork a jerry mc think?
But i dont rememebr any where reading that hue said tp sucked, or suanders.
i do know he ddint have a chance to compete last year with no off season and the suspension. the he arrived and there was no qb coach, he is basically going through his rookie season now.
naturally he would come in this year behind palmer a 10 year vet and default stop gap starter on probation, and lienart an expert in this offense.
None of this means that pryor has been deemed anything other than a talented kid that needs game reps.
everybody with eyeballs and a brain was excited after what he did in the 3rd preseason game, and could see why davis drafted him ( man i miss al).
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Carson Palmer poops golden flakes ! Please RESIGN him ! PLEASE !
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
i do know he ddint have a chance to compete last year with no off season…
you mean the same way every other rookie QB had no off-season last year yet didn’t look HORRIFIC 20 months later?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Why is it assumed that TP hasn’t been evaluated for almost 2 YEARS of practices now?
“He…sucks” says Hue, Saunders, 31 other GMs, Allen, McKenzie, Knapp, Jerry Mac, Corkran…
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1) It is actually less than 1 year since he was suspended the beginning of last year.
2) He couldn’t have been expected to play last year being that he missed the pre and start of the season.
3) So far Allen, Mckenzie and Knapps evaluating technique looks suspect to say the least.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
TheOne Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
And when someone like yourself waits for the white woman to make the money so you can sit on your azz all day?
It’s called a blight on society, you racist POS.
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I bet I could buy your useless Troll life…
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You? lol. I think not. You don’t work. You have no money. You have no business. Your wife barely pays the bills.
My bet is you live in squalor.
Of course, that wasn’t the point, was it?
Point was you stupidly bring up others current situations, when most here would rather be dead than admit they sponge off someone.
What kind of a man admits he’s proud to do nothing, while his wife works?
Prove me wrong. When was the last time you sold a house?
When was the last year you sold two? Which still puts you below minimum wage?
I’m guessing 10 plus years, loser.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
obviously Mistic,
you’re the only one here who was excited by him out-running 3rd stringers and heaving up a few passes out of 15 that were actually caught.
Pretty much what he did at OSU if you think about it…
Higher chance of Pryor being cut this off-season than having a full-season of NFL games ever. See Pat White.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I’m pretty sure TP isn’t ready.
So what ?
I’m absolutely certain Matt Lice doesn’t have a future as our starting QB.
I’m absolutely certain TP will never be ready if he’s listed as an ‘inactive’ every single week.
More evidence that DA or whomever it is that decides who is active on Sunday is completely BRAINDEAD.
At the very least, get TP on the field for a play or two and put something on film that will give opposing DC’s something to worry about and prepare for.
What possible harm could come from that ?
Sure wouldn’t want to disrupt the offensive juggernaut momentum that Krappy’s established so far, would we ?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the team is still floundering, I’d skip right past Leinart, and run TP out there.
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I wouldnt wait that long, if we are 1-4, 1-5 or 2-6 we need to start evaluating TP6 in a hurry, and let palmer evaluate the bench
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As of today, I see no way the Raiders bench a healthy Palmer in favor of TP.
Regardless of record.
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your undying love for palmer is noted but…….
the raiders must find out if pryor is the future, i think it is clear that palmer is not. palmer is good stop gap at the moment but he wont be around forever.
out of contention the raiders must also figure out how to sell tickets. if we are 2-6,1-7,2-8 how can big mck sell tickets? no one will pay to watch captain bunlges turn us into the bungles west.
TP6m would be a reason to watch at that point as well.
2 reason why palmer better start winning in atl or he will not finish the season as the starter and may not suit up in silver and black again beyond that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
18 i know right wish i had apart time job like that practice three days a week holy sh!t
are we working with seymores schedule part time playas give you a part time game 2 quarters
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
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THE DEFINITIVE PRYOR EXPERIENCE!!
vs and completion %:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38% (wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww)
Penn St. 47%
Arkansas 56%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
Yeah, NFL caliber QB.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I have no idea where TP is as this stage of developement.
I like what I’ve read about him with regard to work ethic.
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the Raiders are floundering, I’d play him before Leinhart.
Just my opinion.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Ohio Bobcats – 75%
Marshall 68%
Eastern Michigan (WHO?, don’t laugh) – 76%
Indiana – 80%
and…that’s where his inflated stats came from.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious
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lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
If there is one of those odd Raider patterns forming, than we’ll more than likely beat Atlanta.
Week 1-L
Week 2-L
Week 3-W
Week 4-L
Bye -L
Week 5-W
lol Who would have thought we would have beat the Steelers? I did and so did some others. I see it like this; the potential is there as seen against Pitt, now all we have to do is hope some players return from injury ASAP and play sound football in all 3 phases of the game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Super Charged Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I’m impressed By the Great Carson Palmers Elite play! Hopefully he is still playing at the end of the season so Rivers can give him a proper beat down ! 4 -12 losers once again ! lol
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Check Palmers all time record against SD you dumbazz.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
.
THE DEFINITIVE PRYOR EXPERIENCE!!
vs and completion %:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38% (wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww)
Penn St. 47%
Arkansas 56%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
Yeah, NFL caliber QB.
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How convenient you failed to mention Pryor’s comp.% against Austin Peay.
Case closed!
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
i do know he ddint have a chance to compete last year with no off season…
you mean the same way every other rookie QB had no off-season last year yet didn’t look HORRIFIC 20 months later?
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alex as usual you tried to take part of my answer but ignored the rest.
he didnt have an offseason and was suspended for the first few games. he wasnt even allowed to practice with the team. he joined the team with no chance of learning or being taught the playbook.
This is a new offense and in game 3 of the pre season he put on a show, better than any we had seen from any qb in this offense until that point.
in my book he is the one that can make this offnese dangerous.
The playbook instantly gets bigger with TP6 BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSITY HE CAN BRING TO THE OFFENSE.
TP6 with dmac and reece, and dhb and moore would be too much for any defense to do what they are doing to us now.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
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Fuc does “ghetto” mean? Everyone that uses slang is “ghetto”?
Or is “ghetto” another term for someone who is of the darker race?
Help me to understand this thinking, or what you are saying.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
your undying love for palmer is noted but…….
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Right.
undying love.
I personally have no problem with a coaching staff running out TP if the Raiders are floundering.
Just don’t see it happening.
Don’t put words in my mouth or assume my thoughts.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious
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lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
`We’re real close. We’re one cut block away, we’re one cut away, one block down the field,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ We showed a little bit of it against Pittsburgh and we had a little bit here and there. You just have to keep grinding. If you give up on things you’ll never see if it’s good or not.’’
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Hey, DHB. We have seen Knapp’s offense before, and it is a proven fact. It ain’t no good, never will be…
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
And remember, this was with NFL-TALENT at OL, RB, and WR.
PRYOR!!
vs and completion %:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38% (wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww)
Penn St. 47%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
also threw MORE INTs than TDs against these few legit D’s he faced.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
i dont care about pryor cmp% as a buck eye, i think tressel is much like beamer at vt, they cant develop qb’s. they just let the super athlete dominate on natuiral talent but fail to instill polish
TP6 has looked way better as a pro than he did as a college qb game 3 vs detroit showed that.
its on film bra, you cant erase it
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
TP6 needs to sit around and learn whatever he can from the coaching staff and Palmer. Doesn’t look like we’ll be in the Superbowl from the looks of it, so let him go down the Rodgers route. Not saying he’ll end up as good as him but maybe thats the way to go.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious
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lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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You obviously have not seen FAST AND FURIOUS part 3.
Lots of ‘brah’ mentions.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Knapp is not gonna changed. He sucked in 2007 and was stripped of play callin duties. He sucks now and is not gonna change by week 8 unless ALLEN takes play callin away from his golfin buddy.
Terrelle pryor was drafted to be QB of the future. I think he should at least get 4 games in a Raider uniform and see what he can do before deciding what to do with him.
Raiders season will be over after the loss to the falcons. I dont care if Raiders are up by 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left. Raiders have horrible defense and ATL would come back when it counted.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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I doubt a dummy like you can afford any games. Seriously.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
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Fuc does “ghetto” mean? Everyone that uses slang is “ghetto”?
Or is “ghetto” another term for someone who is of the darker race?
Help me to understand this thinking, or what you are saying.
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The closest I have come to hearing fools use the term “bra” was the two years I spent surrounded by Santa Cruz burn outs. Yes there are ghetto’s in SC.
anything else?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious
=================
lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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i dont give a rats ass about your ride from danville sitting with other out of towners
in the streets in the town where i live this is how we speak, you dont like it but no one cares
stfu opey
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Mistic
why was Pryor suspended? Oh yeah, knucklehead.
Why was he a 3rd-round pick when he’s the ONLY one in the draft? Oh yeah, film, mechanics, accuracy…
Didn’t practice early on? Sounds like Luck and other QBs whose schools graduate late…
IT’S BEEN 20 MONTHS, and other 3-month ROOKIE QBs are looking light-years ahead in mechanics and results.
why fight it?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
LOL at the bigot on here all day trying to get others to hate our QB like he does.The sad part is some of the sheep on here actually read and listen to his BS.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
change* dmn keyboard
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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as much as i dislike your condascending tone you need to stop the keyboard gangster bit, game recognize game and be honest with yourself Mistic it doesn’t suit you
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I’d rather see Pryor than Leinart.
At least Pryor might make some plays with his legs and he can hit those 3 yd. passes Knapp likes so much.
Let’s stay focused. We ain’t doin’ jack squat until this defense gets “repaired”.
Start Carter and So’oto…
Why not…
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
company line….please reggie go on vacation dont come back….
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Bye Week…………………………
who wants to bet McClain takes of to Alabama and finishes what he started last year. just saying……
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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I doubt a dummy like you can afford any games. Seriously.
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HILARIUOS!! and when was the last time you went to a Raider game that you actually paid for the privilege, fug out of here you dummy.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
lol Mistic
Pryor in the NFL has “film”?
2 throws out of 30+ in preseason?
A terrible completion %? (predictable)
What’s on film? Lack of pocket awareness, running “like a Madden game”? Not knowing he has to be set for 1 second before a snap? lol
8-15 for 50 yards (whopping 6 yards per pass)?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
put your “bra” on your dog you dummy, or is that ghetto blog slang?
++++++++
Fuc does “ghetto” mean? Everyone that uses slang is “ghetto”?
Or is “ghetto” another term for someone who is of the darker race?
Help me to understand this thinking, or what you are saying.
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The closest I have come to hearing fools use the term “bra” was the two years I spent surrounded by Santa Cruz burn outs. Yes there are ghetto’s in SC.
anything else?
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Yeah, I got something else.
Around these parts we use the terms, Brother, Bro, Bruh, Bra… It is WELL documented on the blog, Bruh.
the trem bra, is not just exclusive to the “ghetto” of SC.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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I doubt a dummy like you can afford any games. Seriously.
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HILARIUOS!! and when was the last time you went to a Raider game that you actually paid for the privilege, fug out of here you dummy.
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Isn’t he in real estate???????
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Just took a stroll up the Ave, calling random fools “bra”,
I could only get one hobo to respond, and he told me to fug off, he didn’t need no “bra” to strap up his man boobs.
said they were tight no “bra” necessary.
Freaking hilarious
=================
lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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i dont give a rats ass about your ride from danville sitting with other out of towners
in the streets in the town where i live this is how we speak, you dont like it but no one cares
stfu opey
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Don’t get mad dummy, stick to your racist agenda, and stop with the cheese ball slang. You sound like a tool.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
college completion %, games started, and 1st round draft status =
MOST ABSOLUTE correlated predictor of NFL QB success.
Studies have been done.
Pryor fails 2 out of 3.
It was over before it even started, and his practices 20 months later show no improvement.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
So why in the hell do they keep Pryor around?
they do not dress him, he is the no.3 Qb.
Why not just cut him, if he is all so bad?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Isn’t he in real estate???????
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Yes, over 22 years. With a few income properties, so?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I have no idea where TP is as this stage of developement.
I like what I’ve read about him with regard to work ethic.
If Palmer goes down to injury, and the Raiders are floundering, I’d play him before Leinhart.
Just my opinion.
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DA, and the O-line did their best to try and get Palmer put on IR, during the 4th. qtr. On Sunday….
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Any listings available??????
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
LOL at the bigot on here all day trying to get others to hate our QB like he does.The sad part is some of the sheep on here actually read and listen to his BS.
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Yeah, i really don’t care about the development of Joe Webb or some obscure guy named Hakeem Jefferson out of Tulane who has “a unique skill set far superior to Peyton Manning and Tom Brady”.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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as much as i dislike your condascending tone you need to stop the keyboard gangster bit, game recognize game and be honest with yourself Mistic it doesn’t suit you
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i didnt say i would do it, but any out of towner trying to talk ish in my city gets dealt with, and there are plenty of folks here that would be happy to do it. i may have just saved that clowns life lol
i dont make threats on blogs, and stop biting my style ‘keyboard gangster”…. i made that up here 2 years ago
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
the nation just can’t take it anymore, don’t say the wrong thing to us in the street, don’t cut us off, YOU DON’T KNOW ME OR WHAT I’VE BEEN THROUGH!
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Any listings available??????
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Yep, do you have any money, that you can prove to me?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
found another solid Pryor article quote online:
“Just because you are 6′4″ and 233 pounds doesn’t mean you’re a shoo-in for success. Pryor has time to develop, but after almost a full year of learning and practicing, looking incredibly lost against third team defenses is not exactly what I would call progress.”
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
and stop biting my style ‘keyboard gangster”
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you just don’t stop, handleit, do you
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Im trying to buy some swamp land
I heard you where the guy to go too….
Kow Bell
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Thec
you know full-well there is no legit reason for most teams to cut their minimum salary 3rd string QBs despite us ALL knowing they are terrible.
If we draft Geno or another 1st round QB in April, Pryor is done.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Let me ask u guys this. IF reggie were to CUT PRYOR tommorow, how would u guys feel??
I gotta admit this would be the first time I’d be pissed at one of his moves. I mean even before we got to see what he would do in a real game situation.
I bet someone like the Steelers, Ravens or Browns would put in a waiver claim for Pryor .. I could even see Bengals or Kansas City puttin on in too
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
If it wasn’t for our offensive explosion against Pitt, we’d only be 6 points ahead of The Bed and Breakfast Offensive. Offensive to us who had to sit around and watch that shat.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Alex7,
why in the hell do they keep Pryor around?
they do not dress him, he is the no.3 Qb.
Why not just cut him, if he is all so bad?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Im trying to buy some swamp land
I heard you where the guy to go too….
Kow Bell
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That’s definitely where you belong, Lol. But it’s not available in the Bay Area. Check Louisana or Forida
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
DA, and the O-line did their best to try and get Palmer put on IR, during the 4th. qtr. On Sunday….
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Ha!
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Actions that tell me Smiling Tittyboy doesn’t have a clue:
Having TP ‘inactive’ and in street clothes every single week.
Not giving Taiwan any touches whatsoever after the botched reverse. I guess it’s possible his ribs are bad enough to prevent him from carrying the rock but good enough that he can gun on PR coverage. Possible, but not probable.
Activate TP.
Give Taiwan some touches.
What’s the problem, Tittyboy ?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Im trying to buy some swamp land
I heard you where the guy to go too….
Kow Bell
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That’s definitely where you belong, Lol. But it’s not available in the Bay Area. Check Louisana or Forida
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Late Kow Bell hope you enjoyed hanging on JC’s Nutzzzz
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
you could also say pryor improved in the pre season games wheres as our 1s gave us a sample size taste of what was to come
a redzone eniemic offense
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
again Thec,
ALL 3rd string QBs are GARBAGE but kept around, because many teams feel they simply need to have 3 QBs on their roster.
He’s also the whole “final Al pick” and they’re probably letting that go one more year before doing the inevitable.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Thec
you know full-well there is no legit reason for most teams to cut their minimum salary 3rd string QBs despite us ALL knowing they are terrible.
If we draft Geno or another 1st round QB in April, Pryor is done.
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Sure there is…Based on what you posted he will never see the field.
He is terrible at everything a QB does, and is taking up a roster spot.
Based on you’re opinion, we are only carrying 2 Qb’s anyway, as he is not legit.
So again I ask, why keep him?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I thought we should have picked Brady Quinn
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
and stop biting my style ‘keyboard gangster”…. i made that up here 2 years ago
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a real blog personality here, making his mark one key stroke at a time, dude is a straight up villian.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Late Kow Bell hope you enjoyed hanging on JC’s Nutzzzz
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Later Dummy.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiderman99
is it possible that the staff sees Pryor in practice every single day and deems him not worthy of suiting up?
I mean, is that just not possible?
Not like QBs like Pryor have a good track record:
Dennis Dixon, Darron Thomas, Pat White, Joe Webb, Tim Tebow.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Late Kow Bell hope you enjoyed hanging on JC’s Nutzzzz
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Later Dummy.
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Have fun handing out towels in 24 hour fitness….
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
again Thec,
ALL 3rd string QBs are GARBAGE but kept around, because many teams feel they simply need to have 3 QBs on their roster.
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Some teams only carry 2 Qb’s. Per you Pryor is not a NFL QB, so why keep him around taking up a roster spot, when we need D help?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Late Kow Bell hope you enjoyed hanging on JC’s Nutzzzz
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Later Dummy.
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Have fun handing out towels in 24 hour fitness….
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Ok Dummy, Later.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Thec Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Thec
you know full-well there is no legit reason for most teams to cut their minimum salary 3rd string QBs despite us ALL knowing they are terrible.
If we draft Geno or another 1st round QB in April, Pryor is done.
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Sure there is…Based on what you posted he will never see the field.
He is terrible at everything a QB does, and is taking up a roster spot.
Based on you’re opinion, we are only carrying 2 Qb’s anyway, as he is not legit.
So again I ask, why keep him?
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When DA finally IR’s CP, and Lienert snaps a bone, some dummy will need to call plays, ala Boller last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Thec
why does any team carry a 3rd QB?
What exactly is the point of the Curtis Painters and Caleb Hanie’s of the world?
Many teams simply need ANY 3rd QB.
But again, we all know they’re terrible.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
or some obscure guy named Hakeem Jefferson
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SMH
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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i dont give a rats ass about your ride from danville sitting with other out of towners
in the streets in the town where i live this is how we speak, you dont like it but no one cares
stfu opey
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Don’t get mad dummy, stick to your racist agenda, and stop with the cheese ball slang. You sound like a tool.
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what the fugg is a cheese ball and tool?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
IF we go QB 1st round…
Pryor cut, Palmer starts, rookie QB learns, safe Leinart backs up again.
It’s ok.
Pryor was a reach pick who’s past and present shows no reason to expect him to succeed.
It’s ok.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Lefty,
What do you think about JFB’s scenario of getting a 1st rd pick from the Jets for Palmer?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
We should have made a better effort to draft kaepernick. The media had said at the time we were interested in him.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Reading the quotes of DHB in Cork’s post…
Love His enthusiasm and optimism.
I actually believe HE believes what He’s saying.
Seymour, not so much.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Many teams simply need ANY 3rd QB.
But again, we all know they’re terrible.
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Okay so you know he is terrible and yet, you waste a spot on the roster on him????
I say if he is that bad, run him. I am sure you could get another backup pocket passer more worthy than this guy right?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Thec
you know full-well there is no legit reason for most teams to cut their minimum salary 3rd string QBs despite us ALL knowing they are terrible.
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like kyle boller member when he had to play moron
that kind of thinking keeps you down with the train wrecks
3rd string qb is a young proscect and your back up is the vet
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
60 YARDS A GAME RUSHING?
And people blame Plamer lmao.
Great to know how terrible a large chunk of you are at finger pointing.
If DA wants to remain a head coach, he will have to realize Knapp needs to be questioned. Tarver a bit too.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
So what if Pryor can’t play?
Why not improve the Oline, get some WRs on the field, and stop calling laterals around the goal line?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
98…..
What makes you think the jets would give up a first for Palmer?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
At least Huff has now proven he can’t play FS or CB and that this is his last season in a raider uniform.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
SOMEONE show me a run-heavy QB with sporadic accuracy in college who is starting this week in the NFL?
I’ll give you…
Pat White, Dennix Dixon, Joe Webb, Charlie Ward, Darron Thomas, Eric Crouch, Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow…
At least Vick set completion % records at VT.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
lol @ out of towners trying to clown oakland and how we speak.
i know you dont live in the town bra, because you would get your ass beat
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You don’t know ish, you blo hard racist, guaranteed I go to more raider home games than you do fool, and I’ve never heard any d-bag calling someone a “bra”.
You loser.
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i dont give a rats ass about your ride from danville sitting with other out of towners
in the streets in the town where i live this is how we speak, you dont like it but no one cares
stfu opey
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Don’t get mad dummy, stick to your racist agenda, and stop with the cheese ball slang. You sound like a tool.
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what the fugg is a cheese ball and tool?
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Wha? not cool enough words for your badness? look in the mirror “bra”. lmfao
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
At least Huff has now proven he can’t play FS or CB and that this is his last season in a raider uniform.
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LOL!
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
If the grinning guy with tits thinks that TP and Taiwan can’t bring anything to the table…
Well then, we’ve got a good idea why this offense is so fkng anemic and boring.
Alert to the Nation:
Krappy isn’t operating in a vacuum. He’s not putting together the inactive list. If DA tells him to give Taiwan some carries, it will happen.
Krapp isn’t the only problem. The guy that hired him is extremely suspect.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
505
your point didn’t even make sense.
I say 3rd stringers are terrible…
and you counter with Kyle Boller?
Umm, that’s my point. They’re all terrible but might be necessary so not worth cutting.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
SOMEONE show me a run-heavy QB with sporadic accuracy in college who is starting this week in the NFL?
I’ll give you…
Pat White, Dennix Dixon, Joe Webb, Charlie Ward, Darron Thomas, Eric Crouch, Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow…
At least Vick set completion % records at VT..
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
At what point does the QB get to get called out?
Why isn’t he audibling into plays that work?
Did he really think the backwards pass was going to get a first down?
HE believes in Knapp’s system and is happy to execute it, right?
I mean, if he “took over” the 2nd half of the Pitts game and we were “playing through his head”, what happened Sunday in the 2nd half?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
you dont carry garbage on your roster thats the point
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
If the grinning guy with tits thinks that TP and Taiwan can’t bring anything to the table…
Well then, we’ve got a good idea why this offense is so fkng anemic and boring.
Alert to the Nation:
Krappy isn’t operating in a vacuum. He’s not putting together the inactive list. If DA tells him to give Taiwan some carries, it will happen.
Krapp isn’t the only problem. The guy that hired him is extremely suspect.
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Spot on…
TJ is still in the dog house for the fumblitis.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
TE beats us up all day long, but Huff had a bad day at corner???
BRANCH is the DB getting toasted by slow arsse TEs. Branch is making ZERO plays in the passing game. Gio is better than Branch for goodness sakes.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Reggie’s worst signing has been Branch. I never understood why he was considered an elite safety.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
SOMEONE show me a run-heavy QB with sporadic accuracy in college who is starting this week in the NFL?
I’ll give you…
Pat White, Dennix Dixon, Joe Webb, Charlie Ward, Darron Thomas, Eric Crouch, Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow…
At least Vick set completion % records at VT.
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yep you are just like the rest of them i see
YOU CANT SIMPLY LUMP THESE GUYS TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY CAN RUN.
its lazy and a very weak case, these guys on this list have extremely diverse and distinct style of play.
im so glad the nfl is changing and no longer simply ruled by this out dated thinking
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Reggie’s worst signing has been Branch. I never understood why he was considered an elite safety.
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But, he was…….
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
What we need to see is someone be able to stretch the field with deep speed.
DHB AND Ford being out has A LOT to do with the lack of run game folks.
Cmon now!!!
You think it was any coinkydink that DHB and Moore on the field together = DMac running his arsse off against Pitts?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
alex7 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiderman99
is it possible that the staff sees Pryor in practice every single day and deems him not worthy of suiting up?
I mean, is that just not possible?
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No it is not possible that TP couldn’t come in – even in just a wildcat role for a down or two – and that putting that on tape wouldn’t be beneficial.
There’s absolutely no way, no matter how pathetic TP is in practice, that he couldn’t handle that and that it wouldn’t give opposing DC’s something else to worry about and prepare for.
Don’t even try to convince me otherwise. It’s common sense 101.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Reggie’s worst signing has been Branch. I never understood why he was considered an elite safety.
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But, he was…….
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He was what?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Ranked No. 2 in the NFL in rushing in 2010 and No. 7 in 2011, the Raiders are ranked dead last through four games with an average of 60.8 yards per game.
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if this doesnt spell how schitty this offensive zone blocking scheme is, i dont know what will.
sad,sad,just fahqin sad!
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Dmac had one good run vs Pitt.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Ranked No. 2 in the NFL in rushing in 2010 and No. 7 in 2011, the Raiders are ranked dead last through four games with an average of 60.8 yards per game.
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if this doesnt spell how schitty this offensive zone blocking scheme is, i dont know what will.
sad,sad,just fahqin sad!
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Have some patience bro.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I don’t understand why people seem to be going out of their way NOT to blame the o-line for our troubles. It obviously kills drives and wears out an already thin defense.
We all know what’s wrong; the question is, will Reggie or DA have the mettle to step in and actually fix it?
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Kurt Warner completion % in his last year at University of Northern Iowa was 58
TP6-65%
Anything can happen. =)
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
But, he was…….
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He was what?
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Considered an up and coming safety. I think still is, by some.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Also, fire Hoffman. Raider Nation demands a sacrifice, and if they’re not going to axe Knapp they at least have to give us Hoffman.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Don’t even try to convince me otherwise. It’s common sense 101.
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Bet after this ridiculous “pouring over” that he suits up some games.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
But, he was…….
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He was what?
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Considered an up and coming safety. I think still is, by some.
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I never saw it. I saw receivers torching our secondary last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I don’t understand why people seem to be going out of their way NOT to blame the o-line for our troubles. It obviously kills drives and wears out an already thin defense.
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Because people are blaming Knapp and the ZBS for the O-line woes, and lack of a running game. They were #5 in the league last year. And, Palmer is still one of the least sacked QB’s in the league.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Look around the league and there are very teams needing a QB
Jets and the Cards, maybe Kansas schitty.
Raiders may pick one up later in the draft then normal and some teams may jettison promising QB;s to go after new ones.
Its almost as if there is a deluge of them out there.
Concentrate on defense and WR.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I never saw it.
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I NEVER saw it!
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Are we going to come out of the bye running a 3-4 to get diversity and creativity to how we rush the passer???
Will bergstrom be inserted into the starting lineup?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Branch, in the NFL media was/is considered an up and coming safety. Not saying I agree with it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
cant have patience with a system that didnt work the first time man.
i hate this schit!
now that we have qb and rb, the scheme sucks and so does the D. when we had a D, our offense sucked! just like smokey in friday…..we can never had two things that go together, lol.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Raiders must upset Atlanta, hoping it will happen, not expecting it to happen.
whether it happens or not
Raiders absolutely must defeat Jacksonville; or else…
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
TE beats us up all day long, but Huff had a bad day at corner???
BRANCH is the DB getting toasted by slow arsse TEs. Branch is making ZERO plays in the passing game. Gio is better than Branch for goodness sakes.
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Branch and Huff are both over rated and overpaid.
I respect the hustle of branch, but the guy seems to lack the instincts.
Huff talks a good game, but hasn’t ever lived up to the expectation of a 1st round pick.
He’s not alone, but it doesn’t excuse him either.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
…
trade everyone, but
Moore, Vehldeer, Wisniewski, Wheeler, Burris, Biloduki, & Bryant
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Are we going to come out of the bye running a 3-4 to get diversity and creativity to how we rush the passer???
Will bergstrom be inserted into the starting lineup?
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True I thought he was cross-trained at tackle right?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Look around the league and there are very teams needing a QB
Jets and the Cards, maybe Kansas schitty.
Raiders may pick one up later in the draft then normal and some teams may jettison promising QB;s to go after new ones.
Its almost as if there is a deluge of them out there.
Concentrate on defense and WR.
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well before the college season started i said the eno smith and ej manual were the best qbs in college, buty most draft experts had them ranked below barkly, jones, bray, and wilson.
Those other guys have fallen off to a dgeree and the country has been forced to recognize smith and manual as the cream of the crop to date. (by the way i watched the 8 td game from smith it was outstanding).
I was convinced that once these over rated qbs were gone off the boards the raiders could land a late round stael with smith or manual, now it looks like w will have to take them early. thats ok though because that is probably where we will end up drafting…early
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Watched the 30 for 30 on Marinovich. Howie Long was interviewed, and put professional sports in perspective by claiming that, for players, the game was a small fraction of their life. This coming from a guy who played for (and appreciated) Al Davis – one of the few owners who approached his team like family (Dan Pastorini and Marcus Allen prove the point). Those teams were tough, and committed.
So if the game was a small fraction then, what the hell is it now? I don’t ever remember a Raiders coach performing that manner of oral copulation on the field at the end of a game, regardless of the opponent. But to go down on a Broncos head coach? After that performance? This doesn’t smell like a rebuilding year, or a period of readjustment anymore. This smells like a Denver Broncos minor league farm team. Who was it who noticed the DA tell in the inaugural presser? Can’t remember, but that was truly a moment. If Al Davis employed lackey head coaches who were all talk (on the other hand, who wouldn’t want Gruden back now?), this franchise now employs lackey coaches who can’t even get the talk right.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Raiders must upset Atlanta, hoping it will happen, not expecting it to happen.
whether it happens or not
Raiders absolutely must defeat Jacksonville; or else…
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Go on. Or else……what?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Branch, in the NFL media was/is considered an up and coming safety. Not saying I agree with it.
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kk i think it is a dangerous game to play when you look at a player on a losing team and pay him big money as the only guy that stood out. the fact that the entire defense sucked means that if you are half way decent you look good in comparison, but it does not mean you are worth a big contract.
branch is over rated , big mck took the cheese on this one
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
You guys are making WAY too much out of Dennis Allen laughing with Fox.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
branch is over rated , big mck took the cheese on this one
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Based upon His performance, I agree.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
what would the blog response and media response have been if hue jack had been laughing with fox after a blow out loss?
D.A as of now is looking up at hue jack
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Will bergstrom be inserted into the starting lineup?
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True I thought he was cross-trained at tackle right?
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I think Bergstrom’s natural position is Right Tackle, he was moved to left guard. For diversity reasons.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
There is a lot a good players on the offense and a few good players on the defense. McKenzie, Allen and company have taken over a mediocre team that was close to being able to compete for a playoff spot and made it into one of the leagues worst. As a lifelong Raider fan it hurts me to face it, but it is true.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
what would the blog response and media response have been if hue jack had been laughing with fox after a blow out loss?
D.A as of now is looking up at hue jack
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Hue’s not friends with Fox, as far as I know. You can’t compare the two.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
what would the blog response and media response have been if hue jack had been laughing with fox after a blow out loss?
D.A as of now is looking up at hue jack
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It’s a trick question. HueJack would NEVER have done that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
what would the blog response and media response have been if hue jack had been laughing with fox after a blow out loss?
D.A as of now is looking up at hue jack
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What would it have been? IDK
Hue Jack is a palm presser. It’s his nature.
However, I really did enjoy Hue giving the FU to Haley after the KC loss.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
what to make of dennis allen/ hmmmm
i like the fact that penalties have gone down. i liked watching tk get sent to the bench after his idiotic penalty.
I dont like the blow out losses, but the team also had lousy blow out loses and questionable effort at times last year. Difficult to say how much is the coach and how much is the players with a penchant for quitting
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
All you Hue lovers need to remember that he sold our future for some magic beans to the team he is currently working for. That is a much bigger sin than having a laugh with his friend.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
155,
But he never made the sin of having the biggest loss against Denver in 50 yrs.
And Hue never trottted out the worst team in football.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
For those of you that hope to see Pryor suit up on game day……..Not sure it is even possible. I really hate to be pessimistic but I’m starting to think that Knapp can’t draw up a play for TP. If Knapp keeps his playbook on a 10 gig thumb drive, he probably has about 99.8% free space.
I’ve given this team the 4 games to show something.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Difficult to say how much is the coach and how much is the players with a penchant for quitting
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Some players are quitters, when things get tough, even in the NFL.
Sometimes they quit on themselves (though they don’t view it that way) and other times they quit on a Coach.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
All you Hue lovers need to remember that he sold our future for some magic beans to the team he is currently working for. That is a much bigger sin than having a laugh with his friend.
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This is the main reason he was fired
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
what would the blog response and media response have been if hue jack had been laughing with fox after a blow out loss?
D.A as of now is looking up at hue jack
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You know damn well what it would have been.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
what would the blog response and media response have been if hue jack had been laughing with fox after a blow out loss?
D.A as of now is looking up at hue jack
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You know damn well what it would have been.
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lol remember the out cry about that stupid pedicure stuff.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
You know damn well what it would have been.
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Give us your version of what it would have been Kell.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
You know damn well what it would have been.
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Give us your version of what it would have been Kell.
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Guess.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
This is the main reason he was fired
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No it wasn’t.
Hue had not landed a job with the Bengals until later.
Hue overplayed his hand with a new regime.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
What exactly did Hue Jackson do to merit such disdain?
-He was a “blowhard”?
So was Vince Lombardi.
-He got his nails done?
So what?
I don’t care if my coach comes out with a mini skirt and a strap on dildo attached to his cap. Is having his nails done reason to have all the hatred?
-He made some bad decisions.
So does EVERY 1st yr. coach. Heck, Belichik makes some bad decisions now and then.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Is it possible that Pollack can’t teach ZBS?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
You know damn well what it would have been.
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Give us your version of what it would have been Kell.
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Guess.
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Sorry.
I don’t assume to know your thought process, and will not put words in your mouth.
You’d have to lay it out for me.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
So does EVERY 1st yr. coach. Heck, Belichik makes some bad decisions now and then.
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Sure does.
The difference is the SB trophy’s in the glass case.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Is TP that far off? Why not play him when the team is getting blown out?
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
If Hue were still coach we would have a top of the line offense and would be try to find ways to beef up an undermanned defense. Now we have an undermanned defense and a non-functional offense.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
This is the main reason he was fired
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No it wasn’t.
Hue had not landed a job with the Bengals until later.
Hue overplayed his hand with a new regime.
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len,
here is why i think hu was fired
the palmer trade- paid way to much and handicapped our future
lost the trust of players- benching his best most productive player dhb, dismissing jc due to injury( players should not lose thier job to injury)
trashed players and coaches after the final loss, lost the trust of ownership coaches and potential coaching assistant candidates, and further alienated the players
threw the ownership and front office under the bus claiming he wanted more power.
this is how hue fired himself
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Is TP that far off? Why not play him when the team is getting blown out?
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As a practical matter I have no problem with this.
The Organization however would be “tipping their hand”, and at this point, I don’t see it happening.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
hu jack was about as tactful as a tiger with a tooth ache, too much of a wild card to be trusted by players ownership or managment.
he needed davis and Davis needed hu jack
together they were magic
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
This is the main reason he was fired
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No it wasn’t.
Hue had not landed a job with the Bengals until later.
Hue overplayed his hand with a new regime.
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len,
here is why i think hu was fired
the palmer trade- paid way to much and handicapped our future
lost the trust of players- benching his best most productive player dhb, dismissing jc due to injury( players should not lose thier job to injury)
trashed players and coaches after the final loss, lost the trust of ownership coaches and potential coaching assistant candidates, and further alienated the players
threw the ownership and front office under the bus claiming he wanted more power.
this is how hue fired himself
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I agree that all of the above played into Hues dismissal.
How those factors are weighted, IDK.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
You guys are making WAY too much out of Dennis Allen laughing with Fox.
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Could be. This is a new organization, and the old rules don’t apply. And of course it’s a fraternity, and DA probably owes quite a bit to Fox, as well as the Broncos. Okay.
But if you’re a young coach, trying to build a team – do you advertise your debt to a rival franchise after the worst loss in Raiders history to the very same franchise? I seem to remember the Bronco’s reaction to their own ‘worst loss in franchise history’ at the hands of the Raiders several years ago. McDaniels recovered, but only by sucking at Belichick’s teat.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Is TP that far off? Why not play him when the team is getting blown out?
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He has to be active first in order to play him. But I agree, if this losing trend continues I say move TP to #2 QB and insert him in the game to run some plays like the Niners did with Kaepernick and also to run the offense if the game is out of reach. We need to see, in real game speed, what this kid can do. Throw him in the pool & see if he swims or sinks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Cp3 is not the reason we suck this year. Dude is a warrior. Our oline is trash, running game extinct, receivers like a revolving door at Wr. Those that think different are idiots.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Even if Hue was a tiger with a toothache, Allen and McKenzie still took a competitive team and made them a bad team. The team is in such a mess now after less than a year with McKenzie in charge that I don’t even know how they go about turning it around.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
What I don’t get is Hue’s 8-8 record… with his starting QB going down, his long time GM dying and having to assume more responsibility with keeping the team functioning, losing the best player on the team and being saddled with a DC he had no say in working with, and his 8-8 was sooooo beneath everyones high stanards of Raider excellence. Yet those same people are “ok” and ‘understanding” if the next coach gives us our worst loss against Denver in 50 yrs., cannot win a division game, and returns to being the laughingstock of the league once again.
Keep trying to minimize every win he had as being a ‘mirage’ or whatever.
I only wish our horrible ineptitude on offense and the castration of a talent like McFadden and the humiliating losses in Miami and Denver were “mirages” too.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
He has to be active first in order to play him. But I agree, if this losing trend continues I say move TP to #2 QB and insert him in the game to run some plays like the Niners did with Kaepernick and also to run the offense if the game is out of reach. We need to see, in real game speed, what this kid can do. Throw him in the pool & see if he swims or sinks.
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Yep.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
McKenzie should fire the GM.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Even if Hue was a tiger with a toothache, Allen and McKenzie still took a competitive team and made them a bad team. The team is in such a mess now after less than a year with McKenzie in charge that I don’t even know how they go about turning it around.
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Reggie and DA are going to build this team in their image.
Regardless of what WE think.
For better or worse.
Still very early in the process.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
McKenzie should call Matt Millen for advice.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
KK and his 75 years of football acumen put his stamp of approval on Reggie. Of course Munster also stamped JaMeatlof, H Jackson, and Rolando.
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Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
McKenzie should fire the GM.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
McKenzie should fire the GM.
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Ha!
Not happening…lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
When Dennis Allen exceeds the winning % of Hue Jackson please get back to me.
I’ll wait…apparently a while.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
McKenzie should call Matt Millen for advice.
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You here all week?
Should I try the veal? lol
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Difficult to say how much is the coach and how much is the players with a penchant for quitting
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Some players are quitters, when things get tough, even in the NFL.
Sometimes they quit on themselves (though they don’t view it that way) and other times they quit on a Coach.
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And, some like McCheese, are just lazy SOB’s who collect a check and give the minimum effort required. McCheese is not even doing that any longer. I say bench his a$$ and see if there is any trade interest in him. He has NO FUTURE with the Raiders.
Maybe he can join JaLoser and share the Mardi Gras parade duties in Alabama. There’s a pair to draw to.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
When Dennis Allen exceeds the winning % of Hue Jackson please get back to me.
I’ll wait…apparently a while.
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Maybe.
Sucks for sure.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I don’t blame Knapp for the O-Line woes. Raiders should have kept Wylie. Pollack ran off Wiz 1.0 and things have gone to sht.
I do blame Knapp for not having the guts to fix it though. If the ZBS isn’t working then mix some sht up, don’t rely on hope and patience.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Even if Hue was a tiger with a toothache, Allen and McKenzie still took a competitive team and made them a bad team. The team is in such a mess now after less than a year with McKenzie in charge that I don’t even know how they go about turning it around.
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Reggie and DA are going to build this team in their image.
Regardless of what WE think.
For better or worse.
Still very early in the process.
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Your right of course about them building this team in their own image. I am just not sure if there is light at the end of the tunnel, or if McKenzie turns out to be another Matt Millen.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
What I don’t get is Hue’s 8-8 record…
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here is why davis + hu jack+ jc was a synergistic juggernaught. Davis on his last legs gave raider ball one last valiant go, and his hand picke caoch and qb were delivering the goods, propelling the entire team back to respectability and paossibly more. Then within 3 weeks it all fell apart, davis dies, jc cracked his collar bone and hu jack went off the rails.
But at least for 6 weeks we were the raiders again, kicking ass and being feared for our potent quick strike vertical offense with players that rose above adversity because davis belived in them. dHB DMAc and JC
we have never been the same since
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Just need a miracle win at ATL and beat JAX and we will be 3-3 with some key players back to help during the final stretch.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
And, some like McCheese, are just lazy SOB’s who collect a check and give the minimum effort required. McCheese is not even doing that any longer. I say bench his a$$ and see if there is any trade interest in him. He has NO FUTURE with the Raiders.
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It took me a long while to get to this point, but I agree.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Your right of course about them building this team in their own image. I am just not sure if there is light at the end of the tunnel, or if McKenzie turns out to be another Matt Millen.
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If that light is Millen, then get out of the way, because it’s a train.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Curry would be great to have back …. obvioulsy we could use a MLB
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Curry would be great to have back …. obvioulsy we could use a MLB
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At least Curry will never be accused of giving less than 100%
I’ll take that for now.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Your right of course about them building this team in their own image.
So far, all we have is one BIG UGLY MF’er.
Just remember that fat can be lost but ugly goes all the way to the bone.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Curry would be great to have back …. obvioulsy we could use a MLB
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I hear ya…Curry is an OLB…but would still be better than romac out there. I do have doubts about Curry’s Knees…sounds like they are closed to shot..
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Curry would be great to have back …. obvioulsy we could use a MLB
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At least Curry will never be accused of giving less than 100%
I’ll take that for now.
———— Burris Wheeler & Curry are all high-octane guys that just hustle.
ROlando really makes this whole defense worse with ease, I know Curry took limited MLB reps in camp before hurt and was learning all positons in film room.
You never know what DA and Tarver think?
Prob nothing since they have been terrible coaches.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
There is just about zero chance that Pryor sees the field unless absolutely necessary.
With every snap he takes, his potential trade value drops. As a mostly unknown quantity, he could pull maybe a late 4th or 5th.
With more film on him, the market would probably disappear.
If there is a market at all.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Hey Mistic I was especially fond of that “vertical game” when Soup whiffed the wide open Murphy against the 9Balls…
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
STVRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Curry would be great to have back …. obvioulsy we could use a MLB
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I hear ya…Curry is an OLB…but would still be better than romac out there. I do have doubts about Curry’s Knees…sounds like they are closed to shot..
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Right up there with Seymour’s wheels. Seymour should retire at the end of the year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Just remember that fat can be lost but ugly goes all the way to the bone.
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Ha!
So the Raiders are Fugly.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Good for Heyward-Bey. Seems like a good kid and he’s finally starting to make some plays for us!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Carter and Curry could certainly help the (lack of) a pass rush that’s for sure.
Wondering when Chekwa gets hisself off the PS…
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Can anyone truthfully say that DVD & Checkwa were actually worse than the turds we’ve seen in there lately? I can’t.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Brandian Ross, So’oto, Carter, Curry, Bartell, spencer, Barnes, DHB … all coming back when the season macthups get easier.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Curry anywhere other than attacking the LOS from the outside with his speed and reckless play would be silly, imo.
We need to go to the 3-4 with 55 and Burris as ILBs.
Wheeler and Curry, or this new Soto kid pressuring the edge with their speed.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wonder what it will take to get Checkwa of the PS. maybe my memory is fading…was he that bad last year before he got hurt? I know he didn’t set the world on fire…but I do not remember him being awful..some rookie mistakes but..?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Chekwa is still on the team.
Defending the middle of the field and the TEs is where we are just pathetic.
CBs are not covering the middle of the field or TEs!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
192,
I don’t always agree with you Mistic but I am apparently one of a few who actually liked Hue’s style and what he was able to achieve under adverse circumstances. How can anyone deny that with all he had to deal with…(it’s all been well documented) that he didn’t actually over achieve?
I know some of it has to do with a hatred for all things Al Davis and a desire to see the org. get as far away from everything the Raiders represented all these yrs.
Nobody likes the “bad” stuff like the penalties, or worse… the losses over the past 9 yrs. but some just wanna see us become the sanitized ‘new’ Raiders who get along with everybody and are well liked in the media becuz we are now “just like everyone else” in the league.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
JC is a career back up
Hue is a career assistant.
Both had perfect opportunities to excel.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@ 211…True every TE on our schedule is licking his chops right now…
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Curry anywhere other than attacking the LOS from the outside with his speed and reckless play would be silly, imo.
We need to go to the 3-4 with 55 and Burris as ILBs.
Wheeler and Curry, or this new Soto kid pressuring the edge with their speed.
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Definitely think the 3-4 is the way to go but I’d keep Burris at WSLB and move Curry Inside. He could blow up the middle of the line. I just don’t know if I want McCheese in there at all. All he is capable of doing is getting in the way (of our guys).
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Problem is that Curry said he doesn’t want to play inside or MLB.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’m rooting for DA. I am really am and i’ll be the first to embrace him and sing his praises, but from where I sit right now at this moment, after just suffering the worst defeat by the team I most despise?
It’s hard for me to buy what he’s selling while we are wallowing in the cellar and widely considered to be the worst team in football.
I hope that changes I really do, but until I see it on the field? I’m not buying it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
McKenzie should call Matt Millen for advice.
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If he had, I’m sure we would have signed T.O., OchoCinco, Plax and Gaffney already!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Curry would be great to have back …. obvioulsy we could use a MLB
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I have my doubts that a linebacker that has as bad a set of knees as mr Currys apparently are, has much speed left in him. Even with baby cell injections.
That being said, if Curry is flying around the field such as he did last year I will be getting baby cell injections in my old knees next spring.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
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I hear you DJ,
I don’t know what to think or believe anymore. Hard to imagine things getting any better after last Sunday.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
If I see McClain on the field starting against Atlanta, I will know DA did NOT do an honest evaluation of his team over the last 4 games..or..that he is willing to change things to make this better.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
What I don’t get is Hue’s 8-8 record… with his starting QB going down, his long time GM dying and having to assume more responsibility with keeping the team functioning, losing the best player on the team and being saddled with a DC he had no say in working with, and his 8-8 was sooooo beneath everyones high stanards of Raider excellence. Yet those same people are “ok” and ‘understanding” if the next coach gives us our worst loss against Denver in 50 yrs., cannot win a division game, and returns to being the laughingstock of the league once again.
Keep trying to minimize every win he had as being a ‘mirage’ or whatever.
I only wish our horrible ineptitude on offense and the castration of a talent like McFadden and the humiliating losses in Miami and Denver were “mirages” too.
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Is it possible that all these apologists hate(d) Al?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
222,
YES! And everything the Raiders and Al stood for. Al hired Hue. Maybe that’s as far as we need to look.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Fire Knapp.
Get rid of the ZBS.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I get that alot of guys wanna distance themselves from Al and everything and want more favorable coverage and wish to be “like everyone else” and not known as dysfunctional.
My take is that these are ok with losing for as long as it takes if necessary to get to the point that all of Al’s picks are gone and any future success will not be attributed to Al Davis.
Not everyone…but i think of guys feel that way.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Resign Knapp ! Resign Palmer ! 10 more years of LOSING ! hahahaha 2 – 14 Division CHUMPS ! AGAIN
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
224 Kirk, ditto that, zbs sucks, for this group, anyway. terrible showing, And I gotta deal with Whiner fans ALL DAY!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I dont know, DJ.
I think MOST Raiders fans will take winning any way they can get it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Dennis Allen for Coach or the Year !
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I will take winning anyway it comes, even if it takes years to get there.
Lord knows I have been waiting my entire life, WTF is another couple of years?
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
What if Knapp’s offense is so bad, we finish in the top 5 of the draft, and get the next Lawrence Taylor?
Knapp might be the best thing to happen to this organization in 10 years!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Oakland Faiders 2052 Division Chumps !
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
What I don’t get is Hue’s 8-8 record… with his starting QB going down, his long time GM dying and having to assume more responsibility with keeping the team functioning, losing the best player on the team and being saddled with a DC he had no say in working with, and his 8-8 was sooooo beneath everyones high stanards of Raider excellence. Yet those same people are “ok” and ‘understanding” if the next coach gives us our worst loss against Denver in 50 yrs., cannot win a division game, and returns to being the laughingstock of the league once again.
Keep trying to minimize every win he had as being a ‘mirage’ or whatever.
I only wish our horrible ineptitude on offense and the castration of a talent like McFadden and the humiliating losses in Miami and Denver were “mirages” too.
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Great comment. Hypocrisy on this blog runs rampant
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
You have to be either really good or really bad, to be somewhere in this league.
Sadly for Hue, he probably would have stood a better chance keeping his job if he went 4-12 and was selling the long-term.
Going all in on the short-term, and choking off the last month of the season at 8-8 does you no good.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
What if Knapp’s offense is so bad, we finish in the top 5 of the draft, and get the next Lawrence Taylor?
Knapp might be the best thing to happen to this organization in 10 years!!!!
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This is what we’ve been reduced to.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Oh Knapp is great for the organization, ohh wee. We’ll get a high draft pick.. whoopee.
- Quite a low standard.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
hendu Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
224 Kirk, ditto that, zbs sucks, for this group, anyway. terrible showing, And I gotta deal with Whiner fans ALL DAY!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I’d trade for the “whiners” than this rat pack of chumps each and every day.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I take it sarcasm isn’t your strong suit eh Kell?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Why is every one longing for Hue. The guy was a lying, cheating, pimp. Nothing more, nothing less.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I get that alot of guys wanna distance themselves from Al and everything and want more favorable coverage and wish to be “like everyone else” and not known as dysfunctional.
My take is that these are ok with losing for as long as it takes if necessary to get to the point that all of Al’s picks are gone and any future success will not be attributed to Al Davis.
Not everyone…but i think of guys feel that way.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
AD (BIH)
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Well what a bunch of bull shіt.
We had the talent to build around and in comes a bunch of new wanna be coaches, and a retread, and look what they’ve done. Not to bright now, what makes you think they’ll get better.
Only hope is to hand the OC job to Saunders. If the O gets better and really gets going, the D will be inspired to perform better.
When our D is out there, and they know the offense can’t do squat, you think they are gonna go all out? Hell no.
But put an offense out there (scrap the zbs/wco hot garbage) that can sustain drives, score from the red zone, and put up points, you will see a defense that wants to play. It’s a fact. The defense knows Palmer and DMAC and Moores’ hands are tied with this lousy scheme. The record and the stats a proof enough alone.
Delay of game, pass plays for negative yardage, three and outs, blocked punts, #32 in the league in rushing (should really be maybe #37 or worse), com’on man. Fckng brutal. Wake the fck up Allen and Reggie. Be a coach and be a GM, gett’er done!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
This team was at it’s best in 2010, going 6-0 in the division, and beating the hell out of teams.
This team started going downhill when we fired Cable and gave all the power to Hue.
The sugar high worked for 11 games, now we have lost 7 or our last 9, with both wins by 3 points, and some 20 and 30+ point losses in there (between DA and Hue coaching).
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
KK Chick Fil A, did you see Husseins racially charged speech that surfaced today with his southern pastor accent on display?
mope & change
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Who hoooo, we get a top 5 draft pick next year. That makes my fking day, my fking year.
- That’s sacrasm
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’m rooting for DA. I am really am and i’ll be the first to embrace him and sing his praises, but from where I sit right now at this moment, after just suffering the worst defeat by the team I most despise?
It’s hard for me to buy what he’s selling while we are wallowing in the cellar and widely considered to be the worst team in football.
I hope that changes I really do, but until I see it on the field? I’m not buying it.
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Most likely you will waiting a long, long time. Before he mercifully left us AD did nothing since 1987 (notwithstanding the Gruden yrs., since AD couldn’t handle Gruden gaining more attention than he.)
DA looks like a college boy and is so far out of his league. He missed the first lesson with the O: if it aint broken don’t fix it. Then once he broke it he missed the second less: if it is broken, fix it.
Ready the ax handle, boil the tar and gather the feathers: DA’s gotta go!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
BrownStains, Intrade has him at 73%. Suck on that for a while, then look somewhere else for attention.
Out.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
The 2010 team (compared to the 2011 team) scored more points, gave up less points, had less penalties, had a better division record, had a better home record, finished the season strong, and didn’t make massive in-game coaching errors.
How come nobody wants to bring that Head Coach back?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
This team was at it’s best in 2010, going 6-0 in the division, and beating the hell out of teams.
This team started going downhill when we fired Cable and gave all the power to Hue.
The sugar high worked for 11 games, now we have lost 7 or our last 9, with both wins by 3 points, and some 20 and 30+ point losses in there (between DA and Hue coaching).
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This team went down when Hue was fired. Hue built that offense starting in 2010. If DMAC and JC don’t go down in 2011 Raiders would have been in the playoffs or more and Hue would still be the coach.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Allen to scrap ZBS/WCO scheme after a “town hall” type gathering with fans. Allen said “[fans have a point] afterall, they are the ones who pay to come and watch us play. And I know we haven’t put a product out there worth much. So in an effort to better public relations, hey, what the heck, what do we got to lose”.
Fans pointed out the dismal stats and sub-standard play which Allen took personally. When one fan wanted to know if the Raiders could play USC during the bye week, Allen giggled and said that probably wouldn’t be a bad idea. “We could work on our new offense now that Saunders will be the OC”. Fans erupted, applauded and left the meeting knowing that maybe after all, there is hope.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
The 2010 team (compared to the 2011 team) scored more points, gave up less points, had less penalties, had a better division record, had a better home record, finished the season strong, and didn’t make massive in-game coaching errors.
How come nobody wants to bring that Head Coach back?
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That’s your job, go for it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
JFB, If you look at what Hue has done “on paper” and that’s all you saw w/o ever hearing him speak and talk about wanting more control and all that he would have to be a hot candidate for at least a nice OC gig if not HC.
Guys say “the penalties”, but with the common perception that it is more of a “Raider thing” that’s been going on for yrs. i think most GM’s would chalk it up to that.
No doubt it’s Hues perceived lust for power and the thought he would be a “problem” if brought aboard, is more than anything the knock against him.
Me personally?…I agreed with everything he said at the presser. It WAS a joke the way they performed with everything on the line. It was refreshing not to get the same ole “we just didn’t get it done” crap. I’m sick of all those tired cliches that tell you nothing about what’s going on in your mind or in the lockerroom.
Maybe it’s foolish to still wanna hold on to the idea of the “Raider Mystique” and the “us against the world” bad boy image, but yet i find it difficult to let that go..even in this modern sports landscape where such ideas are thought to be nothing more than fantasy.
I still want to believe in the old Raider “mystique” and to me…Hue exemplified that in his attitude and approach. We don’t see that in Allen and i could easily overlook that quality in him if he hadn’t of just presented us with the horrible display in Miami and this humiliating disaster in Denver.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
John Doublin – Oct 1, 2012 Where is the incentive for the defense to perform? They know, better than anyone, that the offense is going to stall, go three and out, and they’ll be back on the field within three plays. It’s disheartening and frustrating.
Yes, they are professionals, this sort of thing isn’t supposed to happen, but guess what…they’re also human and susceptable to human emotion—including anger and disappointment. Right or wrong, people are people, football players are football players and being set up to fail doesn’t sit well with anyone.
Knapp is setting this entire Oakland Raiders team up for failure. The proof is on the game film—if one is willing to look. Head coach, Dennis Allen and general manager, Reggie McKenzie must take a look and decide if letting Knapp continue on this track is worth the fans calling for THEIR jobs for allowing this to continue. The fans are talking about buying a billboard calling for Reggie, Allen and Knapp to be fired.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Coach JD!
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
The 2010 team (compared to the 2011 team) scored more points, gave up less points, had less penalties, had a better division record, had a better home record, finished the season strong, and didn’t make massive in-game coaching errors.
How come nobody wants to bring that Head Coach back?
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I didn’t want him to get canned, BUT HUE had to remain as OC…and I wanted to keep Marshall as DC.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Anybody got any inside info, hot tips or a camera phone inside Raider HQ? I’d like to know:
*is Reggie losin it, yelling, screaming, beating his desk to a pulp
*is Allen ripping knapp a new butthole
*is Allen beating his desk to a pulp
*are the players secretly planning a mutiny as long as knapp is the OC
*does management throw water coolers and clipboards at each other when they argue
*does all the clerical help run and take cover when Reggie and Allen fight, and does Mark step in to settle things down, or is he the one who starts the fights
*where is Amy in all this. She probably knows more about football than RM and DA combined
*does Allen mumble to himself all day long or just when management personel are around
*and why do we try and run a style of offense that is not suited to our player personel. Is Reg throwing trash cans at the coaches because of this?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
DJ,
Drop the “mystique” thing, it was a business practice to get you to spend money. The only ex-players who talked about that stuff moving forward, were the one’s still on the payroll.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Bob Glauber (Newsday, 29) — Raiders on pace to allow 500 points this season. Not quite the “pride and poise” this team used to be known for.
This with a defensive boy genius, Robocoach II, who brought in his own DC Tarver, Chucky Bres running the Raiders D doesn’t look that stupid, now.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
I realize that speaking of Hue as exempifying the ‘Raider Way’ or ‘mystique’ opens up to comments about his nails getting done and how that is far from the Raider tough guy image, but at this time I have no defense for that comeback so please save it for another time..lol.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Blackandsilverside Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’m rooting for DA. I am really am and i’ll be the first to embrace him and sing his praises, but from where I sit right now at this moment, after just suffering the worst defeat by the team I most despise?
It’s hard for me to buy what he’s selling while we are wallowing in the cellar and widely considered to be the worst team in football.
I hope that changes I really do, but until I see it on the field? I’m not buying it.
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Most likely you will waiting a long, long time. Before he mercifully left us AD did nothing since 1987 (notwithstanding the Gruden yrs., since AD couldn’t handle Gruden gaining more attention than he.)
DA looks like a college boy and is so far out of his league. He missed the first lesson with the O: if it aint broken don’t fix it. Then once he broke it he missed the second less: if it is broken, fix it.
Ready the ax handle, boil the tar and gather the feathers: DA’s gotta go!!
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Right, Al couldn’t handle the attention that Gruden got. Tell me something, in 1987 we drafted one of the most admired athletes of all time. At that time, he was MORE popular than Michael Jordan. But somehow Al let that guy do all his NIKE commercials & play football part-time….And also, clue me in on how we did from 89-94 with a coach not named Jon Gruden, and better yet, compare their winning %.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
John Doublin – Oct 1, 2012 Where is the incentive for the defense to perform? They know, better than anyone, that the offense is going to stall, go three and out, and they’ll be back on the field within three plays. It’s disheartening and frustrating.
Yes, they are professionals, this sort of thing isn’t supposed to happen, but guess what…they’re also human and susceptable to human emotion—including anger and disappointment. Right or wrong, people are people, football players are football players and being set up to fail doesn’t sit well with anyone.
Knapp is setting this entire Oakland Raiders team up for failure. The proof is on the game film—if one is willing to look. Head coach, Dennis Allen and general manager, Reggie McKenzie must take a look and decide if letting Knapp continue on this track is worth the fans calling for THEIR jobs for allowing this to continue. The fans are talking about buying a billboard calling for Reggie, Allen and Knapp to be fired.
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I’d put this entire post on the billboard if I could afford to. Spot effin on…
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
The only thing that exemplified Hue as a Raider, was his ability to completely bullshat the fan base, just like Al and Herrera did for 25 years before Hue.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Last year we had “Build a Bully”
This year’s mantra?
“Change & Hope”
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Situational Football is thrown around quite a bit. Players are criticized for not being able to grasp it on the field, offensively and defensively.
What about Situational Coaching? Last Sunday, the situation was a historical loss. DA was too intent on knob sucking to realize the situation, however, and decided to get on his knees anyway. Huff plays too far off on third down, he hears about it. Same criticism should apply to the coach.
Someone get that man some knee pucks.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Hue Jackson works for Cincinatti now. Get over it.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
3-4 looks coming outta the bye????
HAS to be SOME type of “adjustments”, wouldn’t you say?
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I bet if Hue Jackson had been accused of punching Coaches and women………………oh my gawd
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
A’s don’t seem as sharp today.
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:59 pm
3-4 looks coming outta the bye????
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No straight 3-4, but maybe some exotic looks (4-2-5, 2-4-5 stuff).
I don’t see a defense with Burris, Goethel and McClain all on the field at same time really working.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I bet if Hue Jackson had been accused of punching Coaches and women………………oh my gawd
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For real, huh.
Would have been fired same day.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Burris, Goethel and McClain all on the field at same time
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Me either.
But Wheeler-Burris-55-Soto work?????
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
KK Munster, what happened to “out” ?
Did you see what smokin Joe said today?
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KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Out.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
4-2-5????
Don’t want to even see 4 DL in the nickel. We are short one edge rusher even if I include Carter.
We are HEAVY at DT with Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Houston, and Bilikudi.
3 man front with multiple LBs is the way to go.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Smokin Joe!
“Vice President Joe Biden decried raising taxes on an American middle class that ‘has been buried’ during the O bama years”
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Pryor=another dumb baboon that can’t play QB
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
On Defense….#52 and #56 are boar hunters!
#55 not so much I think he was a puppy hunter.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
666PeymourGlen, not a single player on our defense is playing quality ball, ok ?
Take your tongue out of their ass’s!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Hi Everyone
Sure do luv my Oakglen Raiders, even if my co workers tease me, I still luv my Oakglen Raiders
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
HOLLA
when the raids win, my dueces are happy. when they lose yawl kno my dueces arent happy. they have not been happy poopers lately.
JUST KEEPIN IT FO SHIZZLE, HOLLA
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
brownstains with his typical juvenile banter spoken like a true piece of trailer park trash.
Go back to your meth lab and inhale some more toxic chemicals then come back and post something even stupider than your last post if that is at all possible you uneducated dolt!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
666PeymourGlen, not a single player on our defense is playing quality ball, ok ?
Take your tongue out of their ass’s!
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BrownStains, I wish you would take your tongue out of my assz.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
666PeymourGlen, not a single player on our defense is playing quality ball, ok ?
Take your tongue out of their ass’s!
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BrownStains, I wish you would take your tongue out of my assz.
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Lol, that’s some nasty right there.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
You know how far off our offense is. Probably the best QB to run it Leinart and I don’t think we have a RB on our roster to run it. Maybe Goodson.
I’m not saying by a long shot that they’re out best players. Just to fit with Knapp’s constipated “I know it’ll work sometime scheme because it worked for me in the 1990’s” style of offense.
Anyone remember what our offense looked like 2 years ago or last year even when our starters were injured? Making best use of the talent we have.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
KK the middle class has been buried the last 4 years, right?
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Joe Biden on Tuesday said the middle class “has been buried the last four years,” words Republicans trumpeted as evidence that even President O bama’s veep doesn’t believe the incumbent administration has been good for the country.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
JFB,
I hope you enjoy Mattingly giving the division and away, and finally the wild card tonight.
All year long he does dum shhht like intentionally walking a guy to bring a guy up to the plate who is hitting 400 with RISP.
LMFAO!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
“Lol, that’s some nasty right there.”
I know I am seriously LMAO right now
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Vontaze Burfict is now starting for the Bengals. Several on this blog stated we should take him as a low risk/high reward type of player in the 7th rd. We could of canned Romac and had Vontaze reaking havoc.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
666Glen & KK both using the same tired “Brownstains” blast…2 tr0lls living their dream on a blog. With their tongue up Husseins ass!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
KK CHick Fil A, now that you put your stamp of approval on JaMarshmallow, Hussein, and Reggie Mac it’s clearly evident you are a dumb ignorant mope.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
devilr8er Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Vontaze Burfict is now starting for the Bengals. Several on this blog stated we should take him as a low risk/high reward type of player in the 7th rd. We could of canned Romac and had Vontaze reaking havoc.
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Burfict wasn’t in Reggie’s gut.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
“KK the middle class has been buried the last 4 years, right?
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Joe Biden on Tuesday said the middle class “has been buried the last four years,” words Republicans trumpeted as evidence that even President O bama’s veep doesn’t believe the incumbent administration has been good for the country.”
your hardly educated enough to speak on the ingredients of Fruit Loops let alone the economy and or what has happened to the middle class.
Let the big boys talk you go back to your Lincoln logs and Teletubbies.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Munster, how many years have you been sweeping the barbershop for your only source of income? Since your wife left or since the Nixon admin?
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
“Burfict wasn’t in Reggie’s gut.”
That’s a good one!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Seymour666Glen, in your effort to get Joe Bidens back you overlooked the fact I didn’t say anything about the economy I just posted “HIS” comments. You dumb as a rock inbreed tr0ll.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
your hardly educated enough to speak on the ingredients of Fruit Loops let alone the economy and or what has happened to the middle class.
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“666Glen & KK both using the same tired “Brownstains” blast…”
I think we can all see that your dumber than a shlt stain on a pair of underwear….so the name browenstains kind of fits!
Not sure why you are poking fun at a working man like KoolKell when its obvious your a poverty stricken section 8 dweller who couldn’t construct a sentence at an elementary level.
Maybe if you are nice KK and I will pitch in and get you a real education so you will know that electricity was discovered not invented ok you little brained twit!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Antonio Gates abuses us on opening night???
Heath Miller scored how many times?
Dressen and Tamme this past weekend for crucial 3rd down conversion, a 4th down coversion, and TDs???
We have to find a way to cover the TEs and the middle of the field. Make the QB throw the ball outside!!!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I should have known that when the offense struggled in the pre-season we were in trouble. The one game the Raiders won was with Terrell Pryor at QB against Detroit and he used his speed to get out of trouble in that ZBS offense. If the Raiders lose two more consecutive games, I would play Pryor.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Burheadcase is starting because Tom Howard was injured.
I’m still wondering why the heck the last GM cut Howard in favor of Groves???
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Like I said you wouldn’t understand the first thing about the economy or the middle class and merely mentioning them does not show favoritism to a democratic or republican party.
Again your not bright enough to construct a simple sentence so therefore I would not expect you be able to read or comprehend what I or other have written properly.
Which is why you amuse so many of us you see your like Gilligan in Gilligan’s Island, a bumbling idiot who we all laugh at for cheap entertainment.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Hey bloggers I just made $249 by filling out surveys!
That easily got KrappyRat’s attention. I’m sure the old fool throws away half his allowance every months on get rich quick spam.
Sweet, just puffing blunt and checking out some Dodger action. Next year will be off the chizzle, when we get Crawford back
Ah yeah, the True Blue Wrecking Crew n full effect
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Antonio Gates abuses us on opening night???
Heath Miller scored how many times?
Dressen and Tamme this past weekend for crucial 3rd down conversion, a 4th down coversion, and TDs???
We have to find a way to cover the TEs and the middle of the field. Make the QB throw the ball outside!!!!
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Isn’t that what we paid big money for Tyvon Branch?
Maybe some of our players were actually better at playing man…?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Just hang in there guys. We are REAL close.
oh man, that hurt me just writing that. How do these guys keep saying this crap with a straight face?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Just hang in there guys. We are REAL close.
oh man, that hurt me just writing that. How do these guys keep saying this crap with a straight face?
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Come-on. McFadden says we gotta keep chipping those 1-2 yarders away and eventually we’ll get it right.
Why can’t he say “damned, I was much more comfortable before”?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Is it McFadden that’s uncomfortable, or is it the Oline?
Is the argument really that our Oline actually can block? It’s just the zone part of blocking is what they are stuggling with????
WTF does that mean?
Smith, Carlisle, and Briesl couldn’t power block the Dlines we’ve seen either. Not buying any parts of that.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Now Knapp as a bad play caller is a valid argument.
Pretty sure his playbook is nice, and his scheme is decent, but his in game play calling has me shaking my head at times.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
“Smith, Carlisle, and Briesl couldn’t power block the Dlines we’ve seen either. Not buying any parts of that.”
Maybe Cable was a really good O-Line coach
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Is it McFadden that’s uncomfortable, or is it the Oline?
Is the argument really that our Oline actually can block? It’s just the zone part of blocking is what they are stuggling with????
WTF does that mean?
Smith, Carlisle, and Briesl couldn’t power block the Dlines we’ve seen either. Not buying any parts of that.
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BS – Look at our running game last year and the year before and the YPC.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
“Smith, Carlisle, and Briesl couldn’t power block the Dlines we’ve seen either. Not buying any parts of that.”
Maybe Cable was a really good O-Line coach
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LOL…and Wylie too….
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
I’d like to see more screens to McFadden
More 2 TE sets with Ausberry.
Can we get Reece going down the middle of the field instead of the 5 yd outs?
More draw plays.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mav,
So you’re really telling me that Carlisle, Briesel, and Smith would be able to open holes in the old scheme?
Briesel and Smith weren’t here last year, first of all.
Carlisle and Satele were the weak links last year. Carlisle was actually CUT this past offseason.
I think those are 3 holes that don’t get fixed by using a power scheme.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Cable ran a ZBS.
Smith and Briesel weren’t here under Cable.
Carlisle was 2 years younger.
THIS year’s Oline stinks!
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Just hang in there guys. We are REAL close.
oh man, that hurt me just writing that. How do these guys keep saying this crap with a straight face?
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Did one of the players say this?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Idiots
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mav,
So you’re really telling me that Carlisle, Briesel, and Smith would be able to open holes in the old scheme?
Briesel and Smith weren’t here last year, first of all.
Carlisle and Satele were the weak links last year. Carlisle was actually CUT this past offseason.
I think those are 3 holes that don’t get fixed by using a power scheme.
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It’s hard to prove a negative, but this was a good online last year. And I don’t think Carlisle or Satele were weak links. #5 friking O line last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Hard to prove a woulda, shoulda, coulda.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
#5 according to who?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
If Carlise was such a good LG, why was he cut?
Do you really think he was brought back at the vet minimum to start at a position he’d never played since he’s been here?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Well they moved him to LG…….
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
The O line was not a weakness last year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Just hang in there guys. We are REAL close.
oh man, that hurt me just writing that. How do these guys keep saying this crap with a straight face?
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Did one of the players say this?
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Despite the lopsided nature of a 37-6 loss to Denver, Heyward-Bey believes the offense is close to breaking loose.
`We’re real close. We’re one cut block away, we’re one cut away, one block down the field,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ We showed a little bit of it against Pittsburgh and we had a little bit here and there. You just have to keep grinding. If you give up on things you’ll never see if it’s good or not.’’
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Turn the #5 Oline in the NFL last year into an ineffective ZBS line.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Mav,
So you’re really telling me that Carlisle, Briesel, and Smith would be able to open holes in the old scheme?
Briesel and Smith weren’t here last year, first of all.
Carlisle and Satele were the weak links last year. Carlisle was actually CUT this past offseason.
I think those are 3 holes that don’t get fixed by using a power scheme.
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Yup- I think if we didn’t change the offensive scheme around we would be a hellova lot more effective this year.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
The amazing A’s do it again. Balford is a freakin animal. We could use a couple of him on the Raiders.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Briesel looked fine under some real coaching in houston..
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
DA should feel bad for what he’s done… never hire ppl just because they’re your friends.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Smith is no worse than barnes..
Cc is playing in the wrong spot.. coaching
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Why is everyone sticking up for Cork like he is some great talent evaluater? Just like he said Marshawn Lynch sucked a couple years back, now he’s beast mode.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Way to go Oakland A’s.Win tomorrow and do what everyone said was impossible!You win the best division in baseball.Phucken’ A’s.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Marks Hair Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Briesel looked fine under some real coaching in houston..
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Is that why they let him walk and made no effort to sign him when he became a FA?
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
J Hill,you know as well as anyone that players are released(cut) and then resigned later for cap purposes and to pay them slightly less all the time.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
J Hill Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Now Knapp as a bad play caller is a valid argument.
Pretty sure his playbook is nice, and his scheme is decent, but his in game play calling has me shaking my head at times.
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He still sucks with alot of validity to the argument so there is no argument. Just the facts. Hummm Babe!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Turn the #5 Oline in the NFL last year into an ineffective ZBS line.
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Yup, Greg Knapp definitely checked that off his to-do list.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Look at this scumbag Knapp interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1S3LP-1N0Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=465s
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
328. Its a business players don’t always get re signed..
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
THIS year’s Oline stinks!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I wonder why?!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Marks hair Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
DA should feel bad for what he’s done… never hire ppl just because they’re your friends.
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Maybe DA was like to knapp, “wassup brah”, and knapp said “can I be your friend” and DA says “yeah, sure man, whatever” and knapp said “thanks” and DA says “you can be my offensive coordinator” and knapp said “awesome” and DA says “sure man, whatever”.
And then knapp went to a Seahawk game where he filled out a credit card application for a major credit card company and got a free t-shirt for doing so. And he got a credit line of $500.00. And then he said hi to Tom Cable, and Cable said good luck. And knapp said “sure man, whatever”.
And then millions of things happened and didn’t happen, but one for sure did happen. DA and knapp hooked up for real, and sparks started to fly. Not the kind of sparks that newlyweds have, but the kind that fly when things start to go into the toilette when you thought they would be going into the sky instead, like newlyweds.
So now DA has to seriously scratch his ass and make some tough choices. Can he annul this thing he’s got going with his newlyOC? He’ll have to take it to the great and wise and powerful, the all seeing but not quite all knowing, the most powerful man at the Raider command center, Amy Trask. What? Defer please to ReggieMkeazy. Com’on Reggie, sign the annulment papers, please. Oh wait, there were pre-nubs? You gotta be effin joking? Your a funny guy.
So stay tuned Nation. Look for Silver and Black smoke rising from the chimney, and yes, pray the Al Saunders will emerge from this bad arrangement as the new OC.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Lefty12 you still out there??
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Truepain Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Look at this scumbag Knapp interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1S3LP-1N0Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=465s
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Looks like Knapp is stuck on running the ZBS and Reggie and DA support this. These guys are frickin clueless or egotistical. They blatantly disregard that the Raiders had #5 ranked Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury last year in the power scheme. Just crazy. This will be a blown season because of a incompetent GM and coaches. This could have been prevented. Way to go Mark Davis. Season OVER
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
260-that is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read.Put your energy in trying to help the city/county get new venues for your teams.Grow up!
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Lefty12 I’m saying this for a couple of reasons, but do you remember last year when we were discussing the A’s and Geren was still manager?
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:57 pm
333-if the team wants them bad enough 99.9999are resigned.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
So sad to see my Raiders season over. So sad. I cannot watch another team feast on my Raiders. It is to much pain. Such high hopes have been plunged into an abyss of despair. So sad.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Don’t remember the conversation,but I know I disliked Bobo.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Yeah we were talking A’s and like everyone else you were just killing Geren and even Billy and I was telling you how fast things change in sports…
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Don’t remember that at all.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I’m not saying I had the foggyeest idea it would be this great, but I had a strange feeling the A’s would finish well above 500 even whenn they were 7 games under.
And now I have a strange feeling the Raiders will make a turnaround of some sort much quicker and dramatic than anyone believes.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
260-that is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read.Put your energy in trying to help the city/county get new venues for your teams.Grow up!
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Getting a new OC would be a new venue. We’d win games and everybody would buy tickets and generate tons of revenue for the City.
The article you refer to is a matter of frustration and hits home pretty hard. We just threw away a perfectly good team for someones pipe dream.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Yeah if you get the chance take look in the archive we were discussing it and there was nothing I could say to you to make you optomistic about the future. Not that I was I just had this feeling that even I couldn’t explain.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
It was about a month before Billy fired Geren….
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I never said breisel was some kind of star.. but he never looked like an àsshole under real coaches.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I could see that happening.I do know I will be rooting for them every game no matter what.And I will root for the players playing whether they are my favorite/preference or not.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
just thought I’d put it out there because man this is NUTS what the A’s have done. And I can’t believe somehow I kind of saw a glimps of it before it happened.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
They just need to play the best players and stop the funny stuff.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Welcome back BHP.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
LET’S GO OAKLAND!
All you haters and wimps crying about the dirty infield shall cry some more weeks…so hate on..A’s are winning the title…..and you can only do two things about it…..Like it….and nothing!
They will blow Texas out tomorrow
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Lefty,
Yeah, but CC was the RG here for years. He was cut, and HIS position was filled with a new person.
If he was resigned and still playing RG, then I could see your point.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Hey Raider O, how goes it?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
LET’S GO OAKLAND!
All you haters and wimps crying about the dirty infield shall cry some more weeks…so hate on..A’s are winning the title…..and you can only do two things about it…..Like it….and nothing!
They will blow Texas out tomorrow
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YEAH!!!!! The A’s are the embodiment of what Oakland is all about. The Raiders need to hang around the A’s more often to learn what it means to have some heart!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Meth wassup boy? As long as the A’s can keep it up I’m good to bone this only helps both teams gte what they want a new home.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Did we lose 51 to 3 in the AFC championship? Does this hurt that much? Are we making too much of one loss? Has any unbeatable team ever been beaten by a team that wasn’t supposed to beat them? Every single one! Quitters and fairweather friends. Go jump on the current winners jockstraps. Especially you whiner closet cases. Fvck you and enjoy. How many shirts you got in your closet, anyway? B1tch,,b1tch,b1tch. Armchair fvcking experts, shut the fvck up.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
The Raiders will find their way, they just need to fix their attitudes and humble themselves a bit.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
I feel better now.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Priest,how could anyone see this happening.One of the best things to happen was Sizemore getting hurt before the season.Part of DR.YoD would never have had the opportunity to succeed.(DR.YoD= Donaldson,Riddick,YO,YO,YO and Doolittle.)Who would of anticipated Yo,Yo,Yo being as good as he is.Moss comes out of nowhere and has been great.Johnny Gomes and Smith have been perfect compliments.None of this was in place at the end of last year.Add to that we start 5 rookies in the starting rotation.I thought this might happen in a couple of years,but not this soon.The best part is we have some young hot guns that should be able to step up in the very near future.It is great to be an A’s fan tonight.It is great to have at least one of the teams you root for be successful.And it is as fun as you can get.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
A rookie owner should never have hired a rookie GM and a rookie GM should never have hired a rookie coach. It’s a recipe for disaster.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Meth, tell Amy to shut the fvck up. I know he enjoys being an instigator but he is also a 49er fan and it really is irritating.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:29 pm
knapp apologists dont understand we had a good thing to build on but now we started something that blows. explain. please.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
A rookie owner? That’s a new take. He’s been there his whole fvcking life and is like 60 years old.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
A rookie owner should never have hired a rookie GM and a rookie GM should never have hired a rookie coach. It’s a recipe for disaster.
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because the rookie HC hires a OC when we had Saunders all along. what is up with that?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Lefty12 to anticipate this is impossible Iwas just optimistic about what they could do if we got a few things done they could shock some people but this is lightyears beyond my wildest dreams. I was thinking 5-6 game sover 500 by years end.
Nothing like this..
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
A rookie owner? That’s a new take. He’s been there his whole fvcking life and is like 60 years old.
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AD (BIH) kept the freakish, red heading ugly pock Mark’ed spawn in a closet his whole to spare the world from him.
Dude is a clown, not a majority owner.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:34 pm
This owner has nevr called a shot, he’s never been responsible for the entire shooting match. To add Reggie is in way over his head right now as is his coach. He got rid of players we needed and was too sure of himself for his own good.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Reggie, ugly as he is, did not get rid of players we needed. IMO they all need to go except maybe 3 or 4.
Reggie did make a mistake hiring DA, since DA looks green as grass, and doesn’t know his dorko from a shiny nickle in his pocket.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Mark has been around and in the office the past 10 years been he never had much to do with football operations. So to just hand this entire team over to a rookie GM when he knows he cannot help him lacked foresight.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:38 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Dude is a clown, not a majority owner.—————————–Yes, he is.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Players liuke Bush, Routt and I think Wimbley left because Reggie never approached him. Reggie was way tooo arrogant in the beginning for his own good. He should have had at least a converstion with Hue to discuss how Hue viewed things going forward. You never make hasty assumptions.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
I wonder how Reggie and DA actually went over the bright spots of last years team.
1. #5 Oline
2. DMAC leading NFL in rushing before injury.
Let’s hire Knapp and go ZBS.
Idiots……
They should both be fired just for doing this. It’s just stupid.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 pm
C’mon people. Reggie was denied countless interviews and, once Allen was in, he was denied countless interviews. Where the he11 you gonna go to get coaches? Yes,I agree, many were on staff.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
anybody here been a fan more than 20 years? If not, why are you a fan of the RAIDERS?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
I’m so damn happy about the A’s.Not much better than Play-off baseball-not a popular statement,I know.And with the A’s being tied for 1st and the division depending on tomorrows game,tomorrow is actually a play-off game.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
C’mon people. Reggie was denied countless interviews and, once Allen was in, he was denied countless interviews. Where the he11 you gonna go to get coaches? Yes,I agree, many were on staff.
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This is presiely why you NEVER hire a rookie coach and THEN allow him carte blanche to hire his assistants. Because YOU KNOW you can’t help the guy get coaches. Mark ca’t call some owner or GM and pull a coach from under him. He has NO PULL!!
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Dumb question. You were 17 years old and Gruden was the coach. Right?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
What,then, do you do Priest?
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Raiders fan since 1967.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Lefty12 these boys are just getting started, this is going to be a great run. They aren’t scared of anyone or anything they’ve beaten them all.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 pm
If I was mark asked Ron Wolfe to hold down the Fort until I could find a assistant for him to groom then made sure we got a seasoned coach to help the players develope that way you can work the league and get players Reggie can’t get. Hell Big Al could wake up fart make a call and have a starting corner by lunch.
Reggie can’t do that…..period
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 pm
1967 for me too.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
It should be remembered that many of the assistants the Raiders wanted to interview/hire weren’t allowed to be interviewed because of some phony rule not allowing coaches to better themselves.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Reggie needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. He has the task of modernizing a Stone Age organization. It won’t happen over night. Hue was 2-4 down the stretch last year. If you find that acceptable, then you shouldn’t complain about 1-3. Where did Hue get hired after last year? In Cincy as a db coach. Hue was a phony. Watch the post-game speech of the Houston game last year. A guy like Hue would ruin a place if he had power. He didn’t want to be under a gm. That’s been well documented.
October 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
You can see the disconnect from reality with Knapp. Look at his interview. He talks about Houston and the ZBS. Kind of “talks up” about Arian Foster like he is so much better than DAMC.
Knapp: “Darren has that kind of ability to be like Arian”
LOL!
NEWS FLASH Knapp. DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury last year.
Fire this guy already.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:00 am
Reggie’s biggest mistake was taking soooo long to hire his HC.Allen was at a disadvantage.That being said,I believe we are in good hands.Reggie ain’t dumb and I believe he knows football.I like Allen’s attitude/grit/whatever.We will be fine.It won’t happen this year,but it will happen-look at the AMAZING A’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 am
In full disclosure,I was old (25) when I became a fan of not only football but,OBVIOUSLY,the Oakland Raiders. That was ‘78/’79 and thought it a travesty that they would move to LA. However, being 45 minutes away in Pasadena, I said what the hell, sign me up, where are my season tickets? That only lasted a couple years ’cause we realized scalped tickets in a 93,000 seat stadium was a much better deal. But, anyway…
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 am
Modernization doesn’t necessarily mean winning son. Who cares about a modernized org. that doesn’t win and that is what soemof you can’t understand.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 am
The KC Chiefs are the most well ran org. in sports they haven’t been to the SB in 40 years.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 am
RaidO Says: NEWS FLASH Knapp. DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury last year.========================Yeah, can’t argue with that. Knapp probably is still an idiot.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 am
Priesttj12 Says: The KC Chiefs are the most well ran org. in sports they haven’t been to the SB in 40 years.============================================== How does that track?
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:08 am
You are about to get trashed for your opinions, AGAIN, tj and it will be clear why you left for other blogs where your opinions had similar cache’, and you left and came back home.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 am
The Patriots were extremely Lucky to get a wirery kid named Tom Brady whom no one liked even them. They just took a flier no one else did.
This is a very tough business, it’s extremely hard to win you have to be good and lucky. Because the NFL grinds out great players before they reach their productivity in many cases. They lose confidence and never develope. It’s not that they can’t play it’s just that things happen.
I’ve seen us draft players that were better than some stars but things happen and you just can’t predict who wil m ake it. You cna see that talent it’s evident yet they never make it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 am
lol what that’s funny!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 am
Modernization in this case just means coming to terms with the rule changes in the NFL. AD’s defense was a beautiful thing to watch in the seventies and early eighties, when there was less emphasis on protecting receivers. When that changed (and it did, quite a bit), the man to man approach became a liability when run without alteration. Still fun to watch, but mostly too easy to beat.
It wasn’t just other teams that outpaced the Raiders organization. The league changed too. Which was why Gruden’s team was such a sweet surprise. A little of the old, and a little of the new. Hell of a mixture that was.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 am
Man look what people in her think of my opinions is their right. I got tired of wasting time in here it’s the ONLY reason I rarely post. When I get tired I’ll leave again whether people like it or not………period
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 am
Yeah right have another drink.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 am
Gruden’s defenses here were nothing but the same thing we’ve always done………….period
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:24 am
Gotta go this is getting boring!
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 am
Priesttj12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 am
Gruden’s defenses here were nothing but the same thing we’ve always done………….period
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True. AD was still alive. It wasn’t Gruden’s defense. It was his offense. And that WAS different. More WC than stretch-the-field. That was the new part, bud. The old part was the defense. You’re catching on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:31 am
Oh,no. Comcast took a sh1t and that’s why I put up with DSL ’cause no TV is bad enough but losing that and internet would really suck.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:32 am
Was that me having another drink?
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 am
I’ll take it. 33 years RAIDERS fan I desrve it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:34 am
Think it was me. I toasted tj when I pulled if from the fridge, anyway.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:36 am
33? Started in ‘79 myself.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:39 am
Priesttj12 Says
Modernization doesn’t necessarily mean winning son. Who cares about a modernized org. that doesn’t win and that is what some of you can’t understand.===================================I will not argue with this because there is no argument about this.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Alright, we need to find out who’s having another drink and why and what time zone they are in.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:42 am
I’ll get to the bottom of this.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:44 am
Oh, sh1t,I did. Get to te the bottom of the last one and that means, crack another. I put in my time today.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:44 am
No h on my keyboard.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 am
Comcast hasn’t kicked back in so help me out, or I’l go to the National Geographic site. Save it for occasions like this. You can get lost there for hours.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:50 am
Comcast back. Screw you non-responders. Lousy EMT’s
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:51 am
Spoke too soon, but they’re working on it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 am
Geez, no Hawaiian’s to talk to? Or other South Pacific time zones? Aren’t you,like,5 hours earlier than PCT?
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 am
Wait. Hawaii doesn’t do daylight saving time does it?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 am
Going to go find last years tree and resurrect. Along with a PBR. Sure, I could lie to you, but what kind of full disclosure would that be?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 am
Found it. Kind of hid it when I went away on the llama trek ’cause you just never know how far you can trust people. As I was typing comcast came on again, and than disappeared again. Big jar of sticky, still smells good. Oh, Comcast is back again. Well, I am, or Imma, gonna go look at that full moon and get happy or happier. Waning full moon, for those who know or care.
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 am
The Oline looks horrible. If we’re gonna stick with the ZBS, we need to draft some olinemen next year. Blocked punts, no pass protect, no run blocking.
I don’t know if this is a thing where its growing pains with these linemen on the new ZBS or its talent. But even if we were going back to “power-blocking” the Oline was starting to get thin with an aging Carlisle and Satele and barnes. Last year the left side was working well with Veldheer and Wiz. Maybe we draft a Center and and move young Wiz back to lg. Either way we need gaurd and RT help.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:17 am
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October 3rd, 2012 at 4:33 am
And people laughed when I started throwing out the Bay Bridge WS talk a month or so ago!!!!
The best thing the A’s have going is Cook and Balfour at the end of games right now. That’s how you win in the postseason, play good D, scratch out a few runs, get a lead going into the 8th……..and lights out.
That’s NL baseball. Funny, the Giants actually have to win with AL style of baseball, scoring 5-6 runs a game, because our pen is not that good at times.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:33 am
With them taking 6 days off before the Atlanta game, it’s clear that it was all lip-service by Dennis Allen about how everything will be evaluated.
They aint changing
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 am
You got to dance with the chick you brought to the dance.
If she is fat and ugly, that’s your fault for brining her, you have to dance with here this year still, and just don’t take her next year.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:04 am
Mornin’ Nation
Coaches film is posted for the Raider/Bronco game for those who have a subscription. Going to look at every running play and see just what’s wrong.
Frankly, no need to look at the defense. We know the problem there…mediocre to bad personnel on the front 7 and injuries in the secondary.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:05 am
425.GG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:33 am
With them taking 6 days off before the Atlanta game, it’s clear that it was all lip-service by Dennis Allen about how everything will be evaluated.
They aint changing
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I too am skeptical as to how much they’ll actually change but Allen, Knapp and Tarver are perfectly capable of watching film without the team around.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:20 am
Atlanta is going to be ugly. That’s a given. If Raiders lose to Jaguars, then I expect big changes. A Jaguars loss would be Armageddon in here.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:20 am
Trying to think of the changes they could legitimately implement.
1) Fire Hoffman. Easiest to change ST coaches and it’d show some accountability among the staff.
2) Let Tarver coach his Stanford 3-4. Nothing can really change McClain’s flaws, but playing ILB in a 3-4 would help conceal them to some extent. If the D-line can’t get any pressure, then let them eat up blocks and let the linebackers try to do stuff.
3) Reshuffle the offensive line. Wiz to LG, Carlisle to RG, Parsons at C, see if Bergstrom can be a better RT than Willie Smith.
That’s about all I got.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:25 am
429.Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:20 am
Atlanta is going to be ugly. That’s a given. If Raiders lose to Jaguars, then I expect big changes. A Jaguars loss would be Armageddon in here.
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I know I’m in the minority here, but if the Raiders lose in Atlanta, it’s got to be Pryor time against Jacksonville. A home game against a weaker team would be the perfect time to give him a shot.
Not holding Palmer responsibile for anything–I think he’s done about as well as anyone could–but a 1-4 record means the hopes for this year are officially dead and buried and it’s time to evaluate for the future.
Granted, it won’t happen–Palmer starts all 16 unless he gets hurt and then it’ll be Leinart–but I believe it should.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 am
2010, we were 1-3 facing a Chargers team we hadn’t beat in what seemed like 10 years.
Coach Cable found a way to pull out a win.
Time for Tits to step up.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 am
432.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 am
2010, we were 1-3 facing a Chargers team we hadn’t beat in what seemed like 10 years.
Coach Cable found a way to pull out a win.
Time for Tits to step up.
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Agreed to an extent, but this is an away game (in the eastern time zone to boot) whereas that Chargers game was at home.
That was the game that Huff sealed by returning the fumble when Branch stripped Rivers? Man I wish those two would play like that again.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 am
You wonder what might have been in 2010 if Seabass hits that FG against Arizona and Marshall doesn’t call a 5 safety formation against Jacksonville.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:47 am
testing
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
GOOD DAY THEC.WHAT A MESS IN HERE LAST NIGHT..
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
Santonio Holmes has the dreaded Lisfranc injury. Maybe he can talk to his locker room buddy Chaz about just how screwed he is now. Chaz can give him DMac’s number too.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Let’s set the record straight.
In the Off-Season, Reggie decided to:
a)- Pay Seymour 7.5 million to return this year, he could have released him and eat up the remaining 7.5 guaranteed in this year’s cap.
b)- Pay Huff a 4.5 million bonus to return this year, same as with Seymour, he could have let him go and absorb the hit this year.
This is where the “transition year” theory fails, you don’t go to the owner and ask him to shell out 11.5 million combined for Seymour and Huff if you’re not seriously trying to compete, their deals were re-structured, but that money will be paid, the players didn’t just give it away.
c)- Franchise Branch, a move that locked up 6.2 million of cap room during the free agency period, then he gave him a long-term contract with a hefty signing bonus.
d)- Signed Brisiel to a 5 year/20 million deal, Bartell to a one year 3 million deal, Barnes to a one year 2 million deal, signed a number of veteran players that are more expensive than younger alternatives guys like Carslile, Leinart, Tollefson, Spencer, Giordano and basically every veteran signed could have been replaced with 1st or 2nd year players making less money.
The point here is we didn’t shed as much money as we could have, we spent actually spend some money instead of absorbing as many contracts as we could.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
Thinking over what the Raiders should do in the draft….
1) Trade back for a 2nd round pick
2) Draft Barrett Jones out of Alabama to play center
3) Use the 2nd round pick on Brennan Williams from North Carolina. A mammoth natural RT at 6′7″, 315, he’s still very light on his feet
4) Use this line: Veldheer-Wiz-Jones-Bergstrom-Williams
I know the Raiders have major, major issues on the defensive line and in the secondary, but so much of the success in the NFL starts up front on the offensive line.
I can only keep hearing Bill King’s voice, “Holy Toledo, the Raiders’s offensive line is wiping out Minnesota’s defensive front!”
Those anxious for a return to the Raiders of the 70’s should remember all that success was due in large part to whole line and to Shell-Upshaw-Otto/Dalby in particular.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:03 am
The Hue Jackson nostalgia that irritates so many will stop as soon as DA and Reggie put a product on the field that comes close to matching it. Nobody really cares about the lack of penalties, they want wins.
The media isn’t going to say “You gotta give this 2-14 Raider team alot of credit for fixing their penalty issues that has plagued them all these yrs Actually they WOULD say that but it won’t make anybody feel any better.
Each game that DMAC goes for 16 rushes and 32 yds. is gonna elicit wispy rememberences of Hue.
Maybe the best thing for “anti-Huer’s” would have been for him to be the guy who brought us the mess in Miami and Denver…but it wasn’t. Until Reggie, DA and Knapp present something that remotely resembles a team that at least has a chance at the playoffs…guys will wax nostalgic about Hue.
I’m for movin’ on, i’m just sayin’.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 am
Until Reggie, DA and Knapp present something that remotely resembles a team that at least has a chance at the playoffs…guys will wax nostalgic about Hue.
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That means Hue Jackson nostalgia all the way through to 2014. I’m not sure my sanity can handle that.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
GOOD DAY THEC.WHAT A MESS IN HERE LAST NIGHT..
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Hey Brother, how goes it?
What happend last night?
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
Seeing into the future:
2012: disaster
2013: improvement
2014: playoffs
2015: Roger Goodell hands the Lombardi Trophy to Mark Davis
Book it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
Paying Huff and Seymour $11.5 mill and franchising Branch for another $6 mill and locking up Bresiel for another $4 mill avg salary were moves of an organization that had to keep some sort of promise to the new coaching staff that they would at least be offered the chance to rebuild around veteran leadership. I don’t think they were as optimistic about where the Raiders were going this year as all of us were coming off an 8-8 season. They never really made that extra move in the Plan B free agency period that we all expected them to make. It’s definitely what Al Davis would have done, but not Reggie’s style.
This was a rebuilding plan all along, but it was only executed halfway. The thinking must have been that eventually they could get lucky with street free agents and practice squad talent to bridge the gap. But that was always going to be a long shot and a roll of the dice.
Going forward we are in a much better situation in regards to the cap as we were, but it could have been better. But Reggie also couldn’t just slice the budget to nil overnight and then hand that team over to a new coaching staff with a straight face. He had to at least give the new staff a punchers chance. I think Dennis Allen even knew the score going into the season and knew he had a mulligan season to work with. But the mistake of hiring good buddy Greg Knapp is the overriding sore thumb that sticks out and must be remedied at the end of the season.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Guest 123,
Love your post at 444. Spot on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:11 am
Accidentally posted before I was finished….
As I was saying, Reggie inherited a bad cap situation but he could have done a lot more to fix it this year by keeping spending to a minimum and using as much cap savings as he could to absorb the accelerated cap money coming from releasing more of the bad contracts.
I think Reggie was caught in the middle, you can’t “clean house” while trying to make a run for the postseason, you have to choose one or the other.
Rebuilding is a painful procedure, if that’s what he wanted he should have gone with it 100%, we would have known what to expect and the vast majority of fans would have accepted it, maybe not agreed with it, but accepted it.
Instead, it’s looking more and more like 2012 is going to be a wasted year because we won’t get to the playoff and we didn’t start the rebuilding once and for all.
I like Reggie very much, he seems like such a perfect choice, former Raider coming from an excellent organization, I’m rooting hard for the guy but that doesn’t mean he’s free from scrutiny, nobody in the League is and I’m sure he’ll soon realize he should have done stuff differently in 2012.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:12 am
Very happy for the Oakland A’s ballclub on their recent success. They are pushing the Rangers to the limit. Nice to see ex-Ray Balfour tearing it up in the bullpen. Nice addition to “moneyball”.
So now that my Rays are out of it, I’ll definitely be cheering on the A’s and whoever plays the Yankees.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 am
Worth noting here Jimmy Johnson’s track record as Cowboys coach:
1989 – 1-15
1990 – 7-9
1991 – playoff loss
1992 – Super Bowl
1993 – Super Bowl
If Reggie can draft as well as Johnson did, the Raiders could be set up for a similar run.
Be patient here, kids, at least with the overall goal.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Guest123.
I see it differently, it’s the GM’s plan, the HC has to follow, DA is the person most affected by making a half-hearted attempt to compete instead of going full-rebuild, expectations were created for the 2012 team and for DA, if we had gone into full rebuld mode, we would have givne DA and staff close to a free-ride until 2013.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:20 am
post 446, Marley,
I feel your frustration with the concept of “cleaning house”. But there are a lot of good young players on this team that still haven’t reached their peak performance and need to be coached up to their potential. We have some good young WR’s who could be stars soon. We have some good young players on defense who need to step up into larger roles and may prove to be all-pros if given the chance.
The point is…mailing it in and fire-selling your high priced talent only depletes the young guys development and all of a sudden the whole team is trash. But you don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Rebuilding is a process that takes time, and even if it sounds convenient to fall off a cliff, there’s a lot of danger in that process too. We can’t afford to stunt the careers of our young core. Can’t afford to blow it all up in one fell swoop.
The extra millions that those veterans eat up is bridging the leadership gap that we need to compete and allow the younger guys to learn the ropes. It’s not money thrown down the drain.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
444, Guest, I was thinking similarly.
A roll of the dice and cross your fingers and pray that the team does decently.
With the Raiders financial issues and bucking for a new stadium they had to at least give the appearence they were trying to win now…and hoping they could at least stay somewhat competitive, while at the same time do the very REAL work of “rebuilding” for the future.
I don’t think the embarrassing losses help Mark’s situation financially no matter what he has up his sleeve. Losing NEVER is something anybody wants to happen under any circumstances…unless your bucking for a high draft pick i guess.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:22 am
Tough situation for Mark Davis right now.
Tanking in the short term might be the way to win in the long term, but if he wants a new stadium in Oakland, this season is about the worst thing possible for him.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:23 am
Just filed a lawsuit against Reggie.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
And I don’t think Mark Davis would have agreed to hand out close to 20 million dollars combined (real money, not cap money) to Seymour, Huff, Brisiel, Branch, Bartell and Barnes just to give DA a semblance of hope, they were trying to win now and it’s not working out, but hey it’s still year 1, Reggie will have the time to fix it, even if he apparently wasted his first year.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:26 am
It’s DA’s first crack at a HC job at the young age of 40. Why would he sign up to coach a motley crue of practice squad talent that was destined to be turned over and team personnel and coaches blown up within a year? Who would want to start their career that way? There is no plan in dumping salary and playing for a top 5 pick in the draft.
DA wants to prove himself among the tight coaching circle of NFL HC’s. He’s got to have some transitionary talent to weed out the underperformers and promote the players who have earned the right for playing time. Even in rebuilding mode, you don’t throw them into the deep part of the pond and just expect them to swim. It takes time, and Huff, Seymour, and Branch are pieces of the puzzle that sustain some semblance of competitiveness that the younger players need.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Bob Marley Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
And I don’t think Mark Davis would have agreed to hand out close to 20 million dollars combined (real money, not cap money) to Seymour, Huff, Brisiel, Branch, Bartell and Barnes just to give DA a semblance of hope,
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I disagree. $20 million to an NFL owner isn’t backbreaking money.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:28 am
) Let Tarver coach his Stanford 3-4. Nothing can really change McClain’s flaws, but playing ILB in a 3-4 would help conceal them to some extent. If the D-line can’t get any pressure, then let them eat up blocks and let the linebackers try to do stuff.
3) Reshuffle the offensive line. Wiz to LG, Carlisle to RG, Parsons at C, see if Bergstrom can be a better RT than Willie Smith.
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I like it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
If Reggies past in GB is any clue of how he intends to build a winner you can expect that it wont entirely be done by bringing in no names who can play football. It will have to include acquiring some big time stars with big time contracts.
GB was good but didn’t get over the hump w/o bringing in Reggie White. They also needed a guy like Woodson to get em to the promised land. They already had their big time QB in Favre.
This Raider team will not get to where Reggie wants it w/o a few big time FA signings and Reggie has to create an atmosphere that a guy like a Reggie White will wanna come to, but Reggie won’t do this all just with no names who can play…you need a few FA studs and Reggie knows this.
Interesting to see how this all plays out. But dang, I hate having to wait a few yrs. to see it.
I’m getting old.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 am
Bob Marley Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
And I don’t think Mark Davis would have agreed to hand out close to 20 million dollars combined (real money, not cap money) to Seymour, Huff, Brisiel, Branch, Bartell and Barnes just to give DA a semblance of hope, they were trying to win now and it’s not working out, but hey it’s still year 1, Reggie will have the time to fix it, even if he apparently wasted his first year.
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$20 mill is small change when you look at the overall business picture. If the Raiders don’t energize the fan base with the illusion that they are trying to compete now, they quickly go to 1/3 full stadiums to start the year. How much more would that set them back financially compared to $20 mill? They have been riding near the cap in part to appease the fan base. Else, you’d have the fans screaming at tightwad Mark Davis and whispers would be louder about him taking the team to LA. The mid level spending splurge was a pragmatic solution.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
DJ Johnny Says:
I’m getting old.
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yeah, I’m getting too old for this sh!t too.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:33 am
I feel like Lloyd Bentsen when I say this but “I know Reggie White. Reggie was a friend of mine..you Richard Seymour are no Reggie White”.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:33 am
If I had to cross post under another name just to make it look like someone else supported my opinion on a Raiders blog (or any other blog) I would probably just crawl in a dark hole and wait to die.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:35 am
Guest123 and PA.
I gotta go so I’ll agree to disagree for now, nice talking to you all.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
Nice talking to you too Marley. Respect your take, but will agree to disagree for now. Probably next year when we are fighting the cap again, I’ll be regretting the new Regime’s spending ways. But for now I think they did what they had to do. I’ll argue (as a fan) that they should have done more in free agency and signed at Terry Porter for $4 mill and maybe Eric Winston instead of Briesel. But that would assume some level of commitment to winnning that was higher than Reggie’s for this team this year.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 am
The next raider hc & staff should have some early picks to play with… cause we’re gonna stink for a while.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
Maybe a rich rapper, russian or chinamen can buy this plie of shìt.. we need a stadium..
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 am
Go Lakers
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Thec Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
GOOD DAY THEC.WHAT A MESS IN HERE LAST NIGHT..
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Hey Brother, how goes it?
What happend last night?
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Was it the usual? Beech Dawg makes a post, then Beechams gay lover shows up, then Dr. Robert goes on a tirade against him, then Kool Kell makes a political post and he gets assaulted, then a bunch of weird fake names pop up saying weird things?
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:41 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Thec Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
GOOD DAY THEC.WHAT A MESS IN HERE LAST NIGHT..
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Hey Brother, how goes it?
What happend last night?
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Was it the usual? Beech Dawg makes a post, then Beechams gay lover shows up, then Dr. Robert goes on a tirade against him, then Kool Kell makes a political post and he gets assaulted, then a bunch of weird fake names pop up saying weird things?
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The real tragedy of a bad season is putting up with alter egos and replies….how this blog has fallen…11 years of .500 to sub .500 will do that.
long for the days of Jon Gruden, being in contention, etc.
at least the A’s are balling out.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
Folks I’m sorry to disappoint you guys but DA is going to be here for awhile wether u like it or not … He’s going to be given atleast 3 years to do this… if they want to work on stuff … This team sucks… it Lacks Depth from top to bottom , There are only a few positions where we can say we have at least an average back up.. so those things are going to take some time , i also expect McClain to get an axe next year and we bring in a high motor MLB.. and get some Pass Rushers along with CB
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:20 am
post 446, Marley,
I feel your frustration with the concept of “cleaning house”. But there are a lot of good young players on this team that still haven’t reached their peak performance and need to be coached up to their potential. We have some good young WR’s who could be stars soon. We have some good young players on defense who need to step up into larger roles and may prove to be all-pros if given the chance.
The point is…mailing it in and fire-selling your high priced talent only depletes the young guys development and all of a sudden the whole team is trash. But you don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Rebuilding is a process that takes time, and even if it sounds convenient to fall off a cliff, there’s a lot of danger in that process too. We can’t afford to stunt the careers of our young core. Can’t afford to blow it all up in one fell swoop.
The extra millions that those veterans eat up is bridging the leadership gap that we need to compete and allow the younger guys to learn the ropes. It’s not money thrown down the drain.
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The extra millions are to keep veterans to play half way decent because the drafted players that are the foundation didnt pan out. Successive coaching changes, QB failure (the ultimate reason) and no way to mix and match free agents that fit because, again – the coaching turnover.
a recipe for disaster – but look across the bay – the Niners hit on their draft picks and we had to gamble and overpay to underachieve at 8-8.
Al’s no longer here, so the “modern approach” excuse is only going about as far as an expansion deal.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiders are fked.
GOOOOO LAKERS!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
Folks I’m sorry to disappoint you guys but DA is going to be here for awhile wether u like it or not … He’s going to be given atleast 3 years to do this… if they want to work on stuff … This team sucks… it Lacks Depth from top to bottom , There are only a few positions where we can say we have at least an average back up.. so those things are going to take some time , i also expect McClain to get an axe next year and we bring in a high motor MLB.. and get some Pass Rushers along with CB
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just a brief sample of next years options
Pass rush
LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia 6-3, 241 Fast, productive 240-pound pass rushers tend to make lots and lots of money at the next level. A poor man’s Von Miller, Jones turned in a dominant season after transferring from USC with 13.5 sacks, 19.5 tackles for loss, and 70 tackles. On a loaded defense with great help around him, he’ll be turned loose and should come up with an even stronger senior season. However, he’ll have to be checked out closely by the medical staffs after suffering a neck injury as a Trojan.
DE Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU* FA – Brian Orakpo/Wash
DE Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU*
DE Michael Buchanan, DE, Illinois 6-6, 240
DE Dion Jordan, Oregon 6-7, 243
Trevardo Williams, U.Conn 6-2, 233
Margus Hunt, OLB, SMU
OLB Walter Stewart, U.Cinn
OLB Sean Porter , Texas A&M
OLB Jamie Collins, S.Miss 6-3, 240
Cover corner
CB David Amerson, N.Carolina St.
This Drafted Player Retention Tool shows 4 CBs drafted in the past 3 years. Only Chimdi Chekwa is still with the team, and he’s on the practice squad. But now that Al Davis has passed on, the new regime will focus (hopefully) on factors other than track speed. Here’s the current Raiders depth chart. Click on any CB and you shall find bio’s punctuated by “waived” (Shawntae Spencer an exception). Fortunately for the Raiders, the (arguably) best CB in the draft is available. Amerson is tall (6′2″) enough to go up against the big WRs. He’s a ballhawk – 13 INT last year is one shy of the NCAA record – 3 thru 4 games this year. Amerson is a practice junkie with with an internal desire to be the best.
Johnathan Banks, CB, Miss. St. 6-1, 185
Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St. 6-1, 217
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn, 6-2, 190
Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington 6-0, 186
Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St. 5-11, 190
Robert Alford, CB, S.E. Louisiana
B.W. Webb, CB, William and Mary 5-10, 180
DT (to replace R.Seymour, T.Kelly)
Star Lotulelei, Utah 6-4, 325
when it comes to being a dominant force in the backfield with just 1.5 sacks and nine tackles for loss last season, that was partly because he was double and triple-teamed on every play. Even with the light stats he was still voted the best defensive lineman in the Pac-12 by the Pac-12 offensive linemen.
He has the athleticism and the size to work in any alignment and produce. Put him on the nose and he’ll be fine, or stick him in as a 3-technique and he’ll gum up the works. Dominant defensive tackles are worth their weight in gold making Lotulelei a shooting star up every draft board until April. 2013
FA
DT Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St. 6-3, 335 Colin Cole, Seattle
DT Sylvester Williams, DT, N.Carolina
DT John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
DT Kawaan Short, DT, Purdue
DT Jesse Williams, 3-4 DE, Alabama 6-4, 320
DT Josh Boyd, Miss. St.
DT Abry Jones, Georgia
LB (to replace McClain)
LB Manti Te’o, Notre Dame 6-2, 255
No high school player is ready for the NFL right out of high school. Manti Te’o was ready for the NFL right out of high school. A mid-first round pick had he come out this year, he might not be the fastest defender and he still needs to work on fighting through the trash to make big plays happen, but he has the bulk and the instincts to be a superstar in the middle of a 4-3 defense.
ILB, A.J. Klein, Iowa St. Rey Mauluga, Bengals
Jake Johnson, S.Alabama Manny Lawson, Bengals SLB
Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St.
OL (replace C.Carlisile, K.Barnes) FA
G/T/C Barrett Jones, Alabama OT King Dunlap
G Hugh Thorntion , Illinois
G Braden Hansen, BYU
T Mark Jackson, Glenville St.
T Brian Winters, Kent St.
T Xavier Nixon, Florida
T Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas
S – if Michael Huff departs
Don’t get caught up in the Tyrann Mathieu hype. The Honey Badger isn’t the pro prospect that Reid is. Somewhat lost in the shuffle over the last few years with so many great stars in the Tiger defensive backfield, this is the year he’ll get his due recognition. A peerless open field tackler, he’s as rock-steady as they come. He might not make Mathieu-like highlight plays, but he makes the routine ones over and over again.
FA
Micah Hyde, S, Iowa Kerry Rhodes, Cardinals
Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
T.J. McDonald, S, USC
D.J. Swearinger, S, S.Carolina
Damion Stafford, S, Nebraska
Duke Williams, S, Nevada
DeVonte Holloman, S-OLB, S.Carolina
BPA – return, impact receiver, wild-card talents FA
QB Geno Smith, W.Virginia LaRod Stephens-Howling
CB Tyrann Mathieu, None (poss. UDFA or drafted after individual workout)
WR/KR Tavon Austin, WR/KR, W.Virginia
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson 6-1, 200
QB Zac Dysert, Miami (OH)
WR/KR Denard Robinson, Michigan
RB Michael Dyer, Akansas
biggest boom-or-bust red flag pick of the 2013 NFL draft. There’s no questioning Dyer’s talent and there’s no doubt that he’s an NFL back who should be in the big league right now. However, he’s not exactly known for being a high character guy and his work will have to be done in the interview rooms more than on the field in workouts and at the Combine. He carried a dead Auburn offense last year and didn’t get nearly enough credit for coming up with a great season with little consistent blocking in front of him. Able to run inside or out, with both power and speed, he’s a big-time talent, but he has to rehab the image first to become a top ten selection.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:48 am
Do the firesale… become the colts west. Star qb or death…
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiders are fked.
GOOOOO LAKERS!!!!
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They’ll hear the sound of Thunder and gag yet again. No one is in fear of Steve Nash.
did the Heat automatically blow up because of the “Holy Trinity” – no.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:48 am
Do the firesale… become the colts west. Star qb or death
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what star QB
Geno Smith?
Tyler Wilson?
Matt Barkley – who gagged against Stanford?
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:51 am
Star QB or Death! Evaluate tp. If he wont develope draft geno.. enough fùcking around.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
Wow 2 whole teams to compete with the lake show… have fun shooting jumpers while we own the paint.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
Good morning, gentlemen.
Did anybody else see SloLando take a crap in the middle of the field on one of the many Denver TD’s?
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
Wow 2 whole teams to compete with the lake show… have fun shooting jumpers while we own the paint.
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“Thats why they play the games”
-Chris Berman
I dont blame you….bad football has you longing for hoops in a hurry, with some semblance of dominance for your favorite team.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Joetoronto Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
Good morning, gentlemen.
Did anybody else see SloLando take a crap in the middle of the field on one of the many Denver TD’s?
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Fatigue and carry over from the concussion. Wrong scheme. Needs to be closer to the line and make plays in space – he should be out on obvious passing downs. He’s too big and not agile – thats obvious.
Much more successful with Mt. Cody in front and Marcel Darius …. you need all the components to make it work. I also sort of blame McKenzie for not personally going to see Saban or conference calling to find out how this guy best fits.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
bad football has you longing for hoops in a hurry, with some semblance of dominance for your favorite team.
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You got that right.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
I asked the question the other day …
If Pitts coverted to a 4-3 and trotted Larry Foote out there to play MLB, what do you think he would looki like.
55 is an ILB, not a MLB.
Where is the newflash that he’s too slow to play MLB???
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Howard was a full participant in the Lakers first practice.. they say he was dunking everything in sight.. looks like he’ll be back early.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
I asked the question the other day …
If Pitts coverted to a 4-3 and trotted Larry Foote out there to play MLB, what do you think he would looki like.
55 is an ILB, not a MLB.
Where is the newflash that he’s too slow to play MLB???
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I think the point is they changed the defense to a pursuit based deal – McClain isnt that active a backer like Miles Burris. They need energy types – thats why they got cover 2 types like Wheeler. You need more flexibility to run the deal that Tarver is attempting….they cant sub without depth and specialists. Maybe Lance Briggs or quicker types play in this type of deal – the bigger backers like Bradie James are in 3-4 alignments…but Raider lack a true NT.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
484.Marks hair Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Howard was a full participant in the Lakers first practice.. they say he was dunking everything in sight.. looks like he’ll be back early.
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WOW! Awesome!
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
RaiderSam Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Needs to be closer to the line and make plays in space – he should be out on obvious passing downs.
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I don’t get it, if he’s closer to the line, he’s in LESS space, not more.
Either way though, the guy stinks.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
Can’t blame fatigue or post-concussion syndrome for a career track record of laziness and jogging after the tailback. #55 has had that slow, lazy demeanor from jumpstreet. Has he ever actually hustled after the carrier once he breaks containment?
Poor instincts, takes bad angles, doesn’t pursue above a jogging pace, lazy, non-committed.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Howard was a full participant in the Lakers first practice.. they say he was dunking everything in sight.. looks like he’ll be back early.
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Better hope that “back” doesnt act up during the season – Bynum was good, and I still think it might have been a mistake to let him go, even with the knees.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Dakota,
You rollin with Philly outta the East this year???
Go Bynum!!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
RaiderSam Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
Folks I’m sorry to disappoint you guys but DA is going to be here for awhile wether u like it or not … He’s going to be given atleast 3 years to do this… if they want to work on stuff … This team sucks… it Lacks Depth from top to bottom , There are only a few positions where we can say we have at least an average back up.. so those things are going to take some time , i also expect McClain to get an axe next year and we bring in a high motor MLB.. and get some Pass Rushers along with CB
=========================================
just a brief sample of next years options
Pass rush
LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia 6-3, 241 Fast, productive 240-pound pass rushers tend to make lots and lots of money at the next level. A poor man’s Von Miller, Jones turned in a dominant season after transferring from USC with 13.5 sacks, 19.5 tackles for loss, and 70 tackles. On a loaded defense with great help around him, he’ll be turned loose and should come up with an even stronger senior season. However, he’ll have to be checked out closely by the medical staffs after suffering a neck injury as a Trojan.
DE Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU* FA – Brian Orakpo/Wash
DE Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU*
DE Michael Buchanan, DE, Illinois 6-6, 240
DE Dion Jordan, Oregon 6-7, 243
Trevardo Williams, U.Conn 6-2, 233
Margus Hunt, OLB, SMU
OLB Walter Stewart, U.Cinn
OLB Sean Porter , Texas A&M
OLB Jamie Collins, S.Miss 6-3, 240
Cover corner
CB David Amerson, N.Carolina St.
This Drafted Player Retention Tool shows 4 CBs drafted in the past 3 years. Only Chimdi Chekwa is still with the team, and he’s on the practice squad. But now that Al Davis has passed on, the new regime will focus (hopefully) on factors other than track speed. Here’s the current Raiders depth chart. Click on any CB and you shall find bio’s punctuated by “waived” (Shawntae Spencer an exception). Fortunately for the Raiders, the (arguably) best CB in the draft is available. Amerson is tall (6′2″) enough to go up against the big WRs. He’s a ballhawk – 13 INT last year is one shy of the NCAA record – 3 thru 4 games this year. Amerson is a practice junkie with with an internal desire to be the best.
Johnathan Banks, CB, Miss. St. 6-1, 185
Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St. 6-1, 217
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn, 6-2, 190
Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington 6-0, 186
Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St. 5-11, 190
Robert Alford, CB, S.E. Louisiana
B.W. Webb, CB, William and Mary 5-10, 180
DT (to replace R.Seymour, T.Kelly)
Star Lotulelei, Utah 6-4, 325
when it comes to being a dominant force in the backfield with just 1.5 sacks and nine tackles for loss last season, that was partly because he was double and triple-teamed on every play. Even with the light stats he was still voted the best defensive lineman in the Pac-12 by the Pac-12 offensive linemen.
He has the athleticism and the size to work in any alignment and produce. Put him on the nose and he’ll be fine, or stick him in as a 3-technique and he’ll gum up the works. Dominant defensive tackles are worth their weight in gold making Lotulelei a shooting star up every draft board until April. 2013
FA
DT Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St. 6-3, 335 Colin Cole, Seattle
DT Sylvester Williams, DT, N.Carolina
DT John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
DT Kawaan Short, DT, Purdue
DT Jesse Williams, 3-4 DE, Alabama 6-4, 320
DT Josh Boyd, Miss. St.
DT Abry Jones, Georgia
LB (to replace McClain)
LB Manti Te’o, Notre Dame 6-2, 255
No high school player is ready for the NFL right out of high school. Manti Te’o was ready for the NFL right out of high school. A mid-first round pick had he come out this year, he might not be the fastest defender and he still needs to work on fighting through the trash to make big plays happen, but he has the bulk and the instincts to be a superstar in the middle of a 4-3 defense.
ILB, A.J. Klein, Iowa St. Rey Mauluga, Bengals
Jake Johnson, S.Alabama Manny Lawson, Bengals SLB
Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St.
OL (replace C.Carlisile, K.Barnes) FA
G/T/C Barrett Jones, Alabama OT King Dunlap
G Hugh Thorntion , Illinois
G Braden Hansen, BYU
T Mark Jackson, Glenville St.
T Brian Winters, Kent St.
T Xavier Nixon, Florida
T Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas
S – if Michael Huff departs
Don’t get caught up in the Tyrann Mathieu hype. The Honey Badger isn’t the pro prospect that Reid is. Somewhat lost in the shuffle over the last few years with so many great stars in the Tiger defensive backfield, this is the year he’ll get his due recognition. A peerless open field tackler, he’s as rock-steady as they come. He might not make Mathieu-like highlight plays, but he makes the routine ones over and over again.
FA
Micah Hyde, S, Iowa Kerry Rhodes, Cardinals
Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
T.J. McDonald, S, USC
D.J. Swearinger, S, S.Carolina
Damion Stafford, S, Nebraska
Duke Williams, S, Nevada
DeVonte Holloman, S-OLB, S.Carolina
BPA – return, impact receiver, wild-card talents FA
QB Geno Smith, W.Virginia LaRod Stephens-Howling
CB Tyrann Mathieu, None (poss. UDFA or drafted after individual workout)
WR/KR Tavon Austin, WR/KR, W.Virginia
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson 6-1, 200
QB Zac Dysert, Miami (OH)
WR/KR Denard Robinson, Michigan
RB Michael Dyer, Akansas
biggest boom-or-bust red flag pick of the 2013 NFL draft. There’s no questioning Dyer’s talent and there’s no doubt that he’s an NFL back who should be in the big league right now. However, he’s not exactly known for being a high character guy and his work will have to be done in the interview rooms more than on the field in workouts and at the Combine. He carried a dead Auburn offense last year and didn’t get nearly enough credit for coming up with a great season with little consistent blocking in front of him. Able to run inside or out, with both power and speed, he’s a big-time talent, but he has to rehab the image first to become a top ten selection.
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Hope we get J Jones or CB . Amerson
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
475.RaiderSam Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiders are fked.
GOOOOO LAKERS!!!!
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They’ll hear the sound of Thunder and gag yet again. No one is in fear of Steve Nash.
did the Heat automatically blow up because of the “Holy Trinity” – no.
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Lakes shot themselves in the foot against the Thunder…..that is not going to happen again with Nash running the show, and Dwighrt putting back many of Kobe’s misses.
We will have to see how they all fit together, but I think we will be okay lol.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
Joetoronto Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
RaiderSam Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Needs to be closer to the line and make plays in space – he should be out on obvious passing downs.
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I don’t get it, if he’s closer to the line, he’s in LESS space, not more.
Either way though, the guy stinks.
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my bad, in a box, less space..closer to the line, and I agree – he should be able to diagnose by now. Instincts seem off…appeared lost in the game. Manning will do that to you.
I cant believe that first game – i mean he was all over the place – it was like he finally arrived v. San Diego…then he just checked out. Dude may have some issues that the medical/psych people didnt flag….and the same might be said about Aaron Curry.
I hope McKenzie and co. start fact checking and getting deeper reads on prospects…wunderlich scores, grades, background . They cant afford to miss in 2013’s draft.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
Poor instincts, takes bad angles, doesn’t pursue above a jogging pace, lazy, non-committed.
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I’d like to see the guy in a 3-4 if he’s going to stay.
How do you go from all world LB outta college, CONSENSUS 1st rd pick … to the adjs you list above???
WTF happened????
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
Can’t blame fatigue or post-concussion syndrome for a career track record of laziness and jogging after the tailback. #55 has had that slow, lazy demeanor from jumpstreet. Has he ever actually hustled after the carrier once he breaks containment?
Poor instincts, takes bad angles, doesn’t pursue above a jogging pace, lazy, non-committed.
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I’m telling you , that medical condition he was diagnosed with is f*kkin up with his play on the field… I’m sorry for McCalin but we need a new MLB
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
475.RaiderSam Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiders are fked.
GOOOOO LAKERS!!!!
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They’ll hear the sound of Thunder and gag yet again. No one is in fear of Steve Nash.
did the Heat automatically blow up because of the “Holy Trinity” – no.
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Lakes shot themselves in the foot against the Thunder…..that is not going to happen again with Nash running the show, and Dwighrt putting back many of Kobe’s misses.
We will have to see how they all fit together, but I think we will be okay lol.
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so Lakers come out of the West v. Miami? or do the Bulls and Derrick Rose FINALLY get over the hump
i felt – the Lakers were supposed to be a REAL finals test for LeBron.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
490.J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Dakota,
You rollin with Philly outta the East this year???
Go Bynum!!!!!
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I will certainly be rooting for them!
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
…then he just checked out
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Actually played pretty well in the 1st half of the Miami game. Bush’s first long TD run was broken containment by everyones favorite Raider Tyvon Branch.
Don’t know when he got the concussion in that 2nd half.
Pitts game, he played well again.
Denver game was a joke.
Still say he should be in a 3-4 or traded to a team that runs the 3-4.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
490.J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Dakota,
You rollin with Philly outta the East this year???
Go Bynum!!!!!
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I will certainly be rooting for them!
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I Love the Lakers but basketball has gotten a little boring for me with all these superstars getting together to get on same team and all the big teams getting big time players in trades and FA etc etc , they have to do something about this , this is insane
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
Poor instincts, takes bad angles, doesn’t pursue above a jogging pace, lazy, non-committed.
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I’d like to see the guy in a 3-4 if he’s going to stay.
How do you go from all world LB outta college, CONSENSUS 1st rd pick … to the adjs you list above???
WTF happened????
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in order to do that, they’d have to get an End that can play 3-4, like Bama’s Quinton Dial or Baker Steinkuhler, then a FA like Ricky Jean Francois, then a true NT like Star Louleilei of Utah.
then a rush backer like Jarvis Jones of Georgia or Barkevious Mingo – then another dude on the strong-side MAYBE Miles Burris – then HOPE the light comes on for McClain.
Why do you think KC struggled?- they drafted the proper personnel and still in the basement.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:14 am
Bynums already out for a while. D12 will be back and at 100% first.. but i still like bynum. Good laker and a 2 time champ.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:14 am
that medical condition he was diagnosed with is f*kkin up with his play on the field…
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Chrons disease, or something like that, right?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
Check out safety phillip thomas from fresno st.. ballhawking stud.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Thec Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
GOOD DAY THEC.WHAT A MESS IN HERE LAST NIGHT..
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Hey Brother, how goes it?
What happend last night?
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Was it the usual? Beech Dawg makes a post, then Beechams gay lover shows up, then Dr. Robert goes on a tirade against him, then Kool Kell makes a political post and he gets assaulted, then a bunch of weird fake names pop up saying weird things?
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This place can be pretty sad.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
Chrons disease is where you shìt the bed alot right?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
…then he just checked out
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Actually played pretty well in the 1st half of the Miami game. Bush’s first long TD run was broken containment by everyones favorite Raider Tyvon Branch.
Don’t know when he got the concussion in that 2nd half.
Pitts game, he played well again.
Denver game was a joke.
Still say he should be in a 3-4 or traded to a team that runs the 3-4.
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Now I agree with that. salvage something for him – the Giants were high on him, but hit the jackpot with Jason Pierre-Paul. I’d be looking to deal Lamar Houston, and a few others if possible.
They will need about 10 picks to fill all these holes. Whats disconcerting is a LOT of juniors are rated higher than Seniors.
Seven of the top ten rated players in 2013 are JUNIORS.
Barkevious Mingo, Johnathan Hankins, Jarvis Jones, Luke Joeckel, OT, Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St., Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU (many think he’ll go number one overall), and Cal WR Keenan Allen.
Were projected at 7 to take QB Geno Smith, W.Virginia. Then 9 of the remaining 10 are also Juniors. Seniors rated a little lower; Barkley, Smith, OG Chance Warmack, CB Johnathan Banks, ILB Manti Te’o, nd DT John Jenkins (true NT at 6-3, 358)
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
The problem with the nba is too many teams.. cut down to 28 teams again and there will be much better competition..
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
Checalo:
The Raiders have the No. 13 passing game in the NFL
BUT
are ranked at bottom or near bottom in all power rankings.
WHY?
Cause they cant run the ball.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
496,
DRose won’t be ready till midseason from what I understand. Bulls will try and tread water until he gets back, but even when he DOES get back he won’t be 100%.
If they do manage to sneak in to the playoffs it’s possible DRose will be healthier and they can make a run.
I’m sure DRose will end up going to LA eventually like everyone else.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
Check out safety phillip thomas from fresno st.. ballhawking stud.
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I’ll stick with vet Safety Kerry Rhodes of Arizona – his contract is voidable and he’ll be 31 – need somebody that knows whats going on with a young defense. – then have Phillip Thomas or Bacarri Rambo of Georgia to learn from him.
my wish list
S Kerry Rhodes
DE Ricky Jean-Francois
LB Rey Mauluga
then draft CB Dave Amerson, WR/KR Tavon Austin, DE/OLB Jamie Collins, DE Dion Jordan, Oregon, RB Ronnie Wingo, Arkansas, T Xavier Nixon, Florida
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
I’m sure DRose will end up going to LA eventually like everyone else.
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Not happening
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
DJ Johnny Says:
then a bunch of weird fake names pop up saying weird things?
That is Jerrys trollbot. Check the pre 06 archives for examples
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
When you dont have a running game, your defense will be on the field a long time.
And if you dont have a good defense, that means loss after loss.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Maulauga????
So we aren’t going to let Tarver run his 3-4???
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
DT J Hankins from THE OSU.
CB Xavier Rhodes FSU
DE Brandon Jenkins FSU (Injured)
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
512.Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
DJ Johnny Says:
then a bunch of weird fake names pop up saying weird things?
That is Jerrys trollbot. Check the pre 06 archives for examples
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Really? Wow. What is the intention of this “trollbot”?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
RaiderSam,
Some thoughts:
David Amerson has “Free safety” written all over him to my eyes. Johnthan Banks out of Mississippi State is who I want. He reminds me a bit of peak-Nnamdi with more ball skills. He’s not flashy, but he does everything right.
Lotulelei is a monster. If you don’t double him, you’re fcked. He doesn’t put up a lot of stats, but he occupies a lot of blockers and pushes the pocket, which is pretty much the job description of a nose tackle.
Te’o is everything a middle linebacker should be. Fast, instinctive, good tackler. Love that kid.
Tyrann Mathieu could be a great slot corner, but I’m not even sure he’s coming out in this draft.
I repeat that Barrett Jones out of Alabama is the center this team needs. A Veldheer-Wiz-Jones left side will dominate for 10 years. I wouldn’t take many centers in the 1st round. I absolutely would take Jones and not think twice about it. He’s that good.
If you want to solidify the right tackle spot, you can’t do better than Jake Matthews out of Texas A&M in this draft. Brennan Williams out of North Carolina would be great if one could trade into the late 1st/early 2nd round.
Not buying any of the DEs in this draft except Sam Montgomery out of LSU. Margus Hunt from SMU is VERY intriguing. Raw as all hell but gets better every year would definitely be worth a 3rd round flyer.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
The problem with the nba is too many teams.. cut down to 28 teams again and there will be much better competition..
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Merge Sacramento and Golden State. Then Charlotte and Washington. Cleveland and Toronto, Portland and Phoenix – THEN you’d have some competition.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
504.The Big Banana Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Thec Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
GOOD DAY THEC.WHAT A MESS IN HERE LAST NIGHT..
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Hey Brother, how goes it?
What happend last night?
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Was it the usual? Beech Dawg makes a post, then Beechams gay lover shows up, then Dr. Robert goes on a tirade against him, then Kool Kell makes a political post and he gets assaulted, then a bunch of weird fake names pop up saying weird things?
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This place can be pretty sad.
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That’s why I almost always stick to mornings and gamedays. This sch!t starts almost exclusively in the afternoons/evenings and I have no patience for it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Winning teams that run the ball have some semblance of a deep threat in their passing game to stretch the field.
Ford and DHB being out last game makes a difference.
Moore and Ford being out opening night makes a difference.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
That female dog oakfosho claims he filed a lawsuit against Big Dummy Reggie…hes of course lying but he should do it, if he has season tickets,..if I had crappy season tickets I would file a breach of contract against the Oakland Raiders. Its been done by fans of other teams. There was even a segment about it in an old LA Law episode,…some fan sued the Bears and Ditka was on that tv episode. However I have season tix that brokers offer me 10K to sell them the rights to,..row 1 in section 139 on the aisle…if I file suit against the Raiders, even though Im friends with HER, I assume I would get my tix ripped from me. The Raiders I feel purposely have regressed. In my opinion, which isnt a guess, is that Mark is 100% focussed on getting an LA deal done,..hes good friends with Marcus Allen,..they used to chase Ho`s together back in the 80`s,…MARK LOVES LA….belive that,…Mark lives full time down there…LA is different then NoCal,..you can be a freaky looking weirdo with no talent, but if you are a billionaire it doesnt matter, you will be perceived as a great looking success, doesnt matter how you got it. As soon as that Farmers Field exec cuts a deal that will allow Mark to be majority owner in exchange for selling a chunk, and get that brand new free stadium, trust this, he will for sure take it. The Raiders are heading back to LA, there is no doubt about it. My guess is 2013 is the last year in Oakland. I have spoken, and you have listened.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
520.J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Winning teams that run the ball have some semblance of a deep threat in their passing game to stretch the field.
Ford and DHB being out last game makes a difference.
Moore and Ford being out opening night makes a difference.
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If DHB and Moore are both on the field for Atlanta, that could make a difference in that McFadden might get 60 yards rushing and the offense put up 20 whole points!
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
RaiderSam,
Some thoughts:
David Amerson has “Free safety” written all over him to my eyes. Johnthan Banks out of Mississippi State is who I want. He reminds me a bit of peak-Nnamdi with more ball skills. He’s not flashy, but he does everything right.
Lotulelei is a monster. If you don’t double him, you’re fcked. He doesn’t put up a lot of stats, but he occupies a lot of blockers and pushes the pocket, which is pretty much the job description of a nose tackle.
Te’o is everything a middle linebacker should be. Fast, instinctive, good tackler. Love that kid.
Tyrann Mathieu could be a great slot corner, but I’m not even sure he’s coming out in this draft.
I repeat that Barrett Jones out of Alabama is the center this team needs. A Veldheer-Wiz-Jones left side will dominate for 10 years. I wouldn’t take many centers in the 1st round. I absolutely would take Jones and not think twice about it. He’s that good.
If you want to solidify the right tackle spot, you can’t do better than Jake Matthews out of Texas A&M in this draft. Brennan Williams out of North Carolina would be great if one could trade into the late 1st/early 2nd round.
Not buying any of the DEs in this draft except Sam Montgomery out of LSU. Margus Hunt from SMU is VERY intriguing. Raw as all hell but gets better every year would definitely be worth a 3rd round flyer.
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Yeah, some mocks have Amerson graded lower as a corner and higher as a FS.
Matthieu has no choice, his skill-set could erode – that would be one to keep an eye on. as bad as this secondary and KR game is, McKenzie should holler at him.
Much depends on McClain – if they keep him, move forward, get him a true NT, but i suspect he’s gone. I only suggested Amerson due to his versatility and with the hope McKenzie would spend and get either D.Rodgers-Cromartie or Ravens Cary Williams on the other side. I also like Johnathan Hankins who’s versatile enough to play anywhere on the d-front. Only problem is Ohio St. has whiffed on defensive front players in recent years.
So you like Barret Jones, with Wiz over at guard and Bergstrom at RT?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
517,
Tyrann Mathieu is only 5′8? I like the taller db’s personally…ever since Rivers dissected us by just tossing it up to Floyd, Gates and VJack and we got to watch Lito jumping up like a yo yo for passes that were just out of reach.
The “Honey Badger” is a playmaker though and we don’t have any of those on D. Which sucks.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
And when they DO go to LA, I will be offered by the team to continue having my row 1 season tix, which I will of course buy,…and sell them to celebs…however I will never go there,…I am already transitioning to the Niners, one because they are going to be awesome for at least ten more years, but mostly because I am from Santa Clara and they will be there, in my home town,..so that will make it easy.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
every article i read has the raiders buried….except for a few delusional bloggers on here…there has to be some sense in Mark….you are losing your teams identity…quit this three stooges krap mark…save your franchise.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
McFadden might get 60 yards rushing and the offense put up 20 whole points!
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Have to crawl before we walk.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
Wouldn’t the best thing be to just bench McClain at this point?
I mean, does he bring ANY value to the defense?
He makes a play every now and then but couldn’t Goethel do the same thing….only more frequently?
I just see McClain as this liability. Seems just his mere presence on the D brings us down.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
So you like Barret Jones, with Wiz over at guard and Bergstrom at RT?
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That would be just perfect.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
524.DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
517,
Tyrann Mathieu is only 5′8? I like the taller db’s personally…ever since Rivers dissected us by just tossing it up to Floyd, Gates and VJack and we got to watch Lito jumping up like a yo yo for passes that were just out of reach.
The “Honey Badger” is a playmaker though and we don’t have any of those on D. Which sucks.
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Yep, he’s short which is why he’d be relegated to slot duty. Usually 5′9″-ish corners can’t play on the outside in the pros.
But his ability to make plays both in the return game and as nickel corner can’t be underestimated.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raiders currently have no identity.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
row 1 season tix, which I will of course buy,…and sell them
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How much you thinking???
Do you have 4 seats?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider fans here talking about the 2013 draft prospects,..after four games,…that says it all. Go Niners.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Maulauga????
So we aren’t going to let Tarver run his 3-4???
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They ran a variation of a 3-4 at USC, and Cincy ran it in 2009. But yeah, technically Tarver would want to run both with a versatile 5 technique that could line up over the nose. Maybe its better to stick primarily with a 4-3…thats the problem, they’ve never really converted to it and so many teams other than Ravens, Steelers and Texans have dominated using it. I guess the Pack did, but they ran 3-3-5, 2-4-5 zone dog combos
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
I use my row 1 seats Hill.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
I’d have to imagine that if Goethel was as good as 55, he would be playing.
Depth is an issue on this team.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Hill I think you didnt read my post well,..I said I will keep them when they move to LA…and sell to celebs.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
But you said you won’t be going to Farmer’s Field.
IF the Raiders move there how much for your seats per game?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
DJ
Its a computer generated program to increase hits on web sites. Here is a good example of Becker or whoever ironing out the kinks at the end of the comments.
By the way this is one of the very first blogs where this place blew up overnight and has been going strong every since. His trollbot must have worked
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2007/12/31/day-after-wrap-up/#comments
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider fans here talking about the 2013 draft prospects,..after four games,…that says it all. Go Niners.
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WTF does Go Niners have to do with anything. Anytime you want to pull your dress up and bring back the Battle of the Bay, you know where to find us.
1 NATION
Liked that fumble Kyle Williams in the NFC title game didnt you?
no disrespect, your defense is top notch, though.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Hill,..wtf are you asking?…how much will I sell them for?????????????…I dont even know yet what I will have to pay for them,..geez dude you should have went to college.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
524.DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
517,
Tyrann Mathieu is only 5′8? I like the taller db’s personally…ever since Rivers dissected us by just tossing it up to Floyd, Gates and VJack and we got to watch Lito jumping up like a yo yo for passes that were just out of reach.
The “Honey Badger” is a playmaker though and we don’t have any of those on D. Which sucks.
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Yep, he’s short which is why he’d be relegated to slot duty. Usually 5′9″-ish corners can’t play on the outside in the pros.
But his ability to make plays both in the return game and as nickel corner can’t be underestimated.
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team is starved for playmakers, and Honey Badger is a play maker.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
DA = Lane Kiffin
Knapp = Tom Walsh
Reggie Mac & Cheese = Matt Millen
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Sam,…your Raiders are going on average 2-14 the next several years while the Niners compete for Superbowls during that time. Clearly you are the one wearing the dress,..a silver and black one.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Burris is the opposite of SloLando, the guy’s motor never stops.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
543.JT Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
DA = Lane Kiffin
Knapp = Tom Walsh
Reggie Mac & Cheese = Matt Millen
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That’s some crystal ball you must have. Care to share the Mega Millions numbers?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Sam,…your Raiders are going on average 2-14 the next several years while the Niners compete for Superbowls during that time. Clearly you are the one wearing the dress,..a silver and black one.
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Yes, 49ers are a top notch organization. From the GM, to the coach.
And they will compete for several years, that roster is deep.
Cant say the same about the ‘always rebuilding raiders’, which they are constantly good at being a bad organization.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Damn …
Really have to lay it all out?
Face value, face +10%, highest bidder …
Anyway, when you figure it out, I’d be interested in purchasing some games IF they actually do make it to Farmer’s Field.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Adam Caplan @caplannfl
Former Raiders WR Nick Miller came off his 4-game suspension on Tuesday. He’s free to sign with any team.
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Adam Teicher @adamteicher
Kevin Boss is out for season
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October 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Well it could be worse…we could have Alex Smith as our QB. Imagine how awful that would be in our offense…
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Sam,…your Raiders are going on average 2-14 the next several years while the Niners compete for Superbowls during that time. Clearly you are the one wearing the dress,..a silver and black one.
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Only future your seeing is getting run out of the Coliseum if they dare start the Battle of the Bay again.
We’ll see – that last Super Bowl was a great one, oh yeah, that was Eli Manning. Alex Smith’s “Mr . Hyde” moment is coming….he’s just setting you guys up. But i’ll say your defense is tremendous.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
2012: 5-11
2013: 9-7
2014-2018: 11-5, minimum
Print that.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
JHill,
I was assuming it was more that they were basically giving McClain one last shot to see if he could get better this year, not so much that he was actually better than anyone else.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
I hate to say it but I can see mark being like the old man when it comes to scheming and scamming
Big bucks for life and stardom in Tinseltown if the Raiders move to LA
First draft pick = Geno = big star for the Hollywood Raiders aka New Tijuana Raiders
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
And talk about stadiums,..as soon as the Niners decided to get a new stadium, they got it done,..while the Raiders will play on a baseball diamond until they move to LA. For two teams that live so close to each other, they are about as far apart as it gets.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Reggie Mac & Cheese = Matt Millen
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So you don’t like Wheeler, Burris, Streater, or Goodson?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
MikieG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Adam Caplan @caplannfl
Former Raiders WR Nick Miller came off his 4-game suspension on Tuesday. He’s free to sign with any team.
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It’s so hilarious to me that Nick Miller was suspended for PEDs when he wasn’t even any good.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
I hate to say it but I can see mark being like the old man when it comes to scheming and scamming
Big bucks for life and stardom in Tinseltown if the Raiders move to LA
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I don’t get that vibe from him at all. He seems to shun the spotlight.
When was the last time Mark was in front of a camera after he hired Reggie?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Hill,..youre an idiot and you have no issue exposing that to us all,…I wouldnt sell you a ticket anywhere because youre just stupid,…as far as Raider fans dissing Alex Smith,..why not look up his record against the Raiders…dont want to?…here it is,.. 2-0…youre welcome.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
543.JT Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
DA = Lane Kiffin
Knapp = Tom Walsh
Reggie Mac & Cheese = Matt Millen
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That’s some crystal ball you must have. Care to share the Mega Millions numbers?
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I wish, LOL.
But you dont need to be a guru to know those things, especially if you have been around football and the raiders for some 30 years.
Its worrisome that some of you guys are happy and all with this current raider kool aid.
You coach laughing it up with the broncos coach at the end of game, Reggie purging the roster like its a fantasy league…
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Hill,..youre an idiot and you have no issue exposing that to us all,…I wouldnt sell you a ticket anywhere because youre just stupid,…as far as Raider fans dissing Alex Smith,..why not look up his record against the Raiders…dont want to?…here it is,.. 2-0…youre welcome.
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0-1 v. the Giants in the NFC Championship.
thanks for playing.
youre welcome.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hill,..youre an idiot and you have no issue exposing that to us all,…I wouldnt sell you a ticket anywhere because youre just stupid
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Awwww damn …
I blew it, folks.
Well, at least he didn’t call me a shut in, lol.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider fans here talking about the 2013 draft prospects,..after four games,…that says it all. Go Niners.
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Compete for superbowl? Lmao hahahah you make it sound like 49ers were a dynasty or something all these years , you guys lucked out on J Harbaugh , Harbaugh knew A Davis pretty well and if A Davis wasn’t cheap and over powering medling owner he was known to be you can bet Harbaugh would have came to the Raiders to become our coach and Niners would have still sucked like they been sucking all these years .. RAIDERS ARE not far. Away from relevancy they were 8-8 last 2 years and with this new management it will take some time but next year its going to be whole different story , we will contend for the AfC w next year for sure .. Not giving up hopes on this year but realize we’re paper thin in Depth so there will be ups and downs this year with this team
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders have 1 sack on 53 pass blitzes (1.9%) down from 17 in 188 last year (9%)
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October 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Reggie Mac & Cheese = Matt Millen
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So you don’t like Wheeler, Burris, Streater, or Goodson?
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I do, but his selection of DA is looking like a mess… and I dont like his other draft picks, Crawford, Bilukdi… bad picks right there.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
and I dont like his other draft picks, Crawford, Bilukdi… bad picks right there.
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Why do you say that?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Does anyone remember who else was interviewed for the OC position?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
I do, but his selection of DA is looking like a mess… and I dont like his other draft picks, Crawford, Bilukdi… bad picks right there.
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That’s a LOT of judgment to make after just 4 games.
DA’s selection of Knapp is looking like a mess for sure. If things don’t improve, we’ll see what kind of guy DA is if Knapp is still the OC to start 2013.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Sam,…you keep bringing up the Giants,..you are about and desperate as it gets,..reaching for anything to deflect from the Raiders,…all you have for the next several years is hoping some team will beat the Niners,..forget the Raiders they are a lost cause,..all you will do for several years ot come is PRAY that some team beats the Niners,..you now will spend your sundays paying more attention to the Niners hoping they lose somehow,…sorry Sam, but thats your life for the next several years. Enjoy it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
Opponents are 38-52 for 442 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INTs and 1 sack for 117.6 rating vs #Raiders blitzes
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October 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
I do, but his selection of DA is looking like a mess… and I dont like his other draft picks, Crawford, Bilukdi… bad picks right there.
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That’s a LOT of judgment to make after just 4 games.
DA’s selection of Knapp is looking like a mess for sure. If things don’t improve, we’ll see what kind of guy DA is if Knapp is still the OC to start 2013.
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when your team is constantly bad, you have to pass a lot of judgement, or maybe you like being the joke of the league….
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
566.J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
and I dont like his other draft picks, Crawford, Bilukdi… bad picks right there.
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Why do you say that?
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Because these brainless fools expected Reggie to draft hall of famers with his 6th and 7th round picks…
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
MikieG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Adam Caplan @caplannfl
Former Raiders WR Nick Miller came off his 4-game suspension on Tuesday. He’s free to sign with any team.
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It’s so hilarious to me that Nick Miller was suspended for PEDs when he wasn’t even any good.
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He is Giordano with a Mullet…
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
when your team is constantly bad, you have to pass a lot of judgement, or maybe you like being the joke of the league….
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I HATE it, but it’s impossible to know if DA is the guy to take us away from being the joke of the league after this short a period of time.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
567.Dan78 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Does anyone remember who else was interviewed for the OC position?
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Carmichael from Saints i think…or was he being considered for HC?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
and I dont like his other draft picks, Crawford, Bilukdi… bad picks right there.
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Why do you say that?
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what impact plays have the players made? even in preseason game you saw them being slow or out of place… I hope Im wrong, but I dont see it…
What have you seen from them?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
In 2012, Kaepernick is the real Wildcat quarterback http://wp.me/p14QSB-5F3s
But lets not try to use Pryor like this at all: Lets make sure he is inactive and cannot participate or contribute in any way shape or form to this offense…Yep..sounds like a solid plan.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
when your team is constantly bad, you have to pass a lot of judgement, or maybe you like being the joke of the league….
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Don’t give a sh1t about what the league thinks. I am sure you are aware that one of the biggest knocks on AL was his inability to allow a coach to A. hire his own staff and B. have more than a year or 2 to right the ship.
Dennis Allen has a 3 year contract. Get used to him. He ain’t going anywhere no matter how much you whine.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie on 1-3 start: “Nobody likes losing and I’m on the top of that list. We’ll get this thing turned around.”
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October 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
When was the last time Mark was in front of a camera after he hired Reggie?
Good point. I should have said If Mark is moving the team and hopes to get a high draft pick, he is a lot like his dad
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
when your team is constantly bad, you have to pass a lot of judgement, or maybe you like being the joke of the league….
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I HATE it, but it’s impossible to know if DA is the guy to take us away from being the joke of the league after this short a period of time.
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One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Mark Long @APMarkLong
Rumor going around that Jaguars-Raiders game could get moved to MNF if Oakland A’s beat Texas Rangers today
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October 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
JT Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raiders currently have no identity.
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Sadly, I have to agree. Before each game they play a sound/video clip that says ‘there are 31 teams in the NFL….then, there are the Oakland Raiders’. They might as well stop playing it because there are now 32 teams in the NFL. There is nothing that makes us unique. Despite sucking for the past decade, we used to have at least that. Well, no more.
We have a coaching staff that will get 3 years to make fools of themselves and all we can do is blog about it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
Raider Nation….. I need for you to read this…. it has to mean something to you…. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/10/integrity.html
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
But lets not try to use Pryor like this at all: Lets make sure he is inactive and cannot participate or contribute in any way shape or form to this offense…Yep..sounds like a solid plan.
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Another fact you fools need to get used to. Terrelle Pryor is never going to be anything for the Raiders. He isn’t going to run the wildcat. He isn’t going to take over for Palmer and save the season. He isn’t going to have a chance to compete for a starting gig next year.
Terrell Pryor was the last mistake by a dying man.
But of course, the over valuation of the ‘talent’ on our roster runs rampant.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
MikieG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Mark Long @APMarkLong
Rumor going around that Jaguars-Raiders game could get moved to MNF if Oakland A’s beat Texas Rangers today
Retweeted by Christopher Hansen
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Lmao! I have a better idea…flip a coin to decide the winner. Spare the football world.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
@bcz24
What is wrong with our players when they blitz? Seems like the other teams pick it up perfectly, like it is chorographed dance?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Dennis Allen has a 3 year contract. Get used to him. He ain’t going anywhere no matter how much you whine.
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I aint getting used to a losing organization… I feel bad for you… that u must endure your coach being the dummy of the AFC West… even Norv Turner owns him now.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/03/latest-concussion-ends-season-for-kevin-boss/
Kevin Boss done for the year.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
586.The Big Banana Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
MikieG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Mark Long @APMarkLong
Rumor going around that Jaguars-Raiders game could get moved to MNF if Oakland A’s beat Texas Rangers today
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Lmao! I have a better idea…flip a coin to decide the winner. Spare the football world.
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Do a full simulation on Madden and broadcast it. Would be more interesting.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
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They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
MikieG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Mark Long @APMarkLong
Rumor going around that Jaguars-Raiders game could get moved to MNF if Oakland A’s beat Texas Rangers today
Retweeted by Christopher Hansen
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Lmao! I have a better idea…flip a coin to decide the winner. Spare the football world.
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That would be the worst Monday Night game ever.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective.
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I tried to point both of these things out yesterday and no one wanted to hear them. SMH. At least some people are still sensible, bcz.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
587.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
@bcz24
What is wrong with our players when they blitz? Seems like the other teams pick it up perfectly, like it is chorographed dance?
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Looks to me like far too often the players are telegraphing their blitzes, not enough disguising it, then add into the fact that our secondary can’t maintain coverage and you offer the QB quick outlets to neutralize the blitz. Thirdly, the players blitzing just havent been very good at it, allowing themselves to get picked up to easily. It comes back the talent, we don’t have very much of it on the defensive side of the ball.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Dont worry Al Big,..even though it will be a monday nighter, there wont be any film crews there, so you and football fans are safe.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
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They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.
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I dont agree with you. When you are non the field after a butt whipping, show some character.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
RaiderChaos Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
Raider Nation….. I need for you to read this…. it has to mean something to you…. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/10/integrity.html
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October 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!!
and mt GreenParty brothers !!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Seems to me RM and the coaching staff are not made to feel accountable. New regime post-Al, sure they were given like a 3 year period of evaluation.
But due to that, that means they’re also going to be slow and resistant to change, experimentation. Like SNBPA said before, switching to a 3-4, reshuffling the OL, or others have said, activating Pryor and playing him to force DCs to gameplan against it. And personnel-wise, benching Seymour/McClain/Kelly.
There are things they can try to try to kick-start something.
This resistance to change thus also creates a sense of no accountability among the roster either. Seymour, Kelly, McClain continue to be trotted out there. It’s like RM/DA/etc are more biding their time, just putting the incumbent starters out there regardless if they’re performing or not, purely because they ‘might come good’, or because it ‘gives them the best chance to win — IF they perform well for that game’ seeing as they’re liable to clock off from game to game.
I don’t see accountability that was promised. Davis clearly wont pressure McKenzie, seeing as he hired him to do all this stuff, be the man, not have to be involved like he was last year with Hue Jackson.
But RM should pressure DA and DA should pressure the coaching staff and playing group. They continue to meander along with key playmakers not getting factored in to gameplans, reduced snaps, certain people inactive, same playcalling woes after lip-service the previous week about how “we have to improve, admit its been a problem, made some mistakes, so i have to get better”…but the same crap and mistakes gets repeated the next game.
This 1-2 year free ride that DA has, shows in his demeanor, words and lack of roster/coaching/scheme tweaks and changes. Problem with this is, the players will see all this accountability talk isn’t pure, and i bet deep down they are not happy with the offensive scheme (ZBS, WCO), and there’s the chance they all mail it in en masse eventually and DA cant do anything about it, cant blow up an entire 53 man roster given he created that situation by treating 2012 as a free ride for himself.
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Here’s a PFT article about the Panthers GM feeling the heat, expressing passion about hating to lose.
Despite high hopes for the 2012 season, the Carolina Panthers have plunged to 1-3. In Charlotte, G.M. Marty Hurney is catching most of the blame. He joined WFNZ’s Mac Attack on Wednesday morning to face the music.
And Hurney didn’t run from reality.
Asked if he’s on the hot seat, Hurney didn’t hesitate. “Of course,” Hurney said. “I’m the one that’s turning up the heat. This is my life and I can’t tell you the agony you go through every time you lose a game. Obviously, I believe in what we’re doing. And I do believe that we have talent and the coaching staff and the people to be good. But the bottom line is right now we’re 1-3. So I understand all the criticism. I don’t necessarily have to agree with everything that’s said, but I get it. My job’s to win football games, and we’re not doing that. . . . Nobody takes it harder than I do. . . . It’s like dying every time you lose a game. It just rips your heart out, it rips your guts out. And no one feels worse about it than I do. You feel like you let the whole region down.”
If owner Jerry Richardson decides to make a change, it won’t cost Richardson any extra money. “I don’t have a contract, by my choice. I’m in this thing to win,” Hurney said. “I’m not doing this for money. I’m doing this to win football games.”
Right now, he’s not. So right now, he’s not happy.
Asked if he’s “miserable,” Hurney didn’t hesitate: “I think that’s an understatement.”
Plenty of Panthers fans are miserable, too. The team gets a chance to turn things around a bit when the Seahawks come to town on Sunday.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
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October 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
I can imagine Fox telling DA not to take the job.
Its the worse mistake you will ever make.
Your team will suck for years
I will kick your butt and you better not be pissed
You better walk up with a grin and say you were right
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
What’s up with Niner trolls on this page? If not for 1 coach that Al Davis recommened to the the Niners in their history they would have been Detroit Lions
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Amazing message from BigMac, “we’ll get this thing turned around.”
According to Romo and LoNeal, on the Raiders OWN post-game show, “this Raiders team does not have the talent to compete in the NFL.” Mighty harsh words.
How is RegMac going to “turn this thing around?” This year. next, in 3 years? No wonder the boy genius, Dennis the Menace, sounds like a robot, well schooled in football cliches.
At #28 in the power rankings ahead of only the Browns (rookies at Qb and Rb), Indy (rookie Qb and rebuilding), JVille (Gabbert?), and Raiders (Palmer, DMac, Seymour, Kelly, RoMac, Tyvon) is this some sort of sick joke on the Nation?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
I can imagine Fox telling DA not to take the job.
Its the worse mistake you will ever make.
Your team will suck for years
I will kick your butt and you better not be pissed
You better walk up with a grin and say you were right
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Man you guys are going too far… we just suck in secondary and we’re getting exposed with freaking short passes, which is the reason we can’t get off the field on 3rd downs and can’t get any sacks,if both our CB;s are healthy we are atleast 2-2 right now.. we don’t suck as much as you guys make it sound like.. i know you guys were like we are the worst team ever after we got crushed by Miami Dolphins and i told u guys no matter how bad a team played 1 week , these are NFL players and Coaches they can come back and beat any body anytime if they prepare well and play well on any given sunday.. Don’t be surprised if we beat unbeaten 5-0 Falcons after the bye week
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
zopi Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Amazing message from BigMac, “we’ll get this thing turned around.”
According to Romo and LoNeal, on the Raiders OWN post-game show, “this Raiders team does not have the talent to compete in the NFL.” Mighty harsh words.
How is RegMac going to “turn this thing around?” This year. next, in 3 years? No wonder the boy genius, Dennis the Menace, sounds like a robot, well schooled in football cliches.
At #28 in the power rankings ahead of only the Browns (rookies at Qb and Rb), Indy (rookie Qb and rebuilding), JVille (Gabbert?), and Raiders (Palmer, DMac, Seymour, Kelly, RoMac, Tyvon) is this some sort of sick joke on the Nation?
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Calm down , we are not as bad as these games make us look like , we’re better than that … we’ll come back and beat the 5-0 Falcons after the bye
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
I aint getting used to a losing organization… I feel bad for you… that u must endure your coach being the dummy of the AFC West… even Norv Turner owns him now.
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Getting used to a losing organization? The Raiders have been a losing organization since 1983. If you are a fan, you are used to losing.
Norv Turner owns DA? By outscoring him by 8 points? By only being able to score 1 TD on the leagues worst defense? By having to settle for FG after FG even though they started inside our 40 numerous time? Come on man.
Bill Belechick’s first year with the Patriots… 5-11
Tom Coughlin’s first year as coach of the Jags… 4-12 (went on to a 14-2 year in 1999) first year with the giants 6-10
Bill Parcells first year with the giants 6-10, won 2 super bowls… first year with NE 5-11 won and afc championship.
You know, new head coaches RARELY inherit good teams, usually they take over for garbage. 1 year turn arounds are incredibly rare. Who’s the moron that judges what a coach can do with only 4 games to base it on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Isnt DA known as a people person? Someone who gets along with todays players?
I wonder how the coach across the bay gets along with his players. Will they get tired of his act before there run is over?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
I aint getting used to a losing organization… I feel bad for you… that u must endure your coach being the dummy of the AFC West… even Norv Turner owns him now.
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Getting used to a losing organization? The Raiders have been a losing organization since 1983. If you are a fan, you are used to losing.
Norv Turner owns DA? By outscoring him by 8 points? By only being able to score 1 TD on the leagues worst defense? By having to settle for FG after FG even though they started inside our 40 numerous time? Come on man.
Bill Belechick’s first year with the Patriots… 5-11
Tom Coughlin’s first year as coach of the Jags… 4-12 (went on to a 14-2 year in 1999) first year with the giants 6-10
Bill Parcells first year with the giants 6-10, won 2 super bowls… first year with NE 5-11 won and afc championship.
You know, new head coaches RARELY inherit good teams, usually they take over for garbage. 1 year turn arounds are incredibly rare. Who’s the moron that judges what a coach can do with only 4 games to base it on.
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Thanks man , they make it sound like every coach can come in and inherit a team that had a good D like the Niners.. and some one like Harbaugh would come in and just have to work on 1 side of the field and they will be instant contenders
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 am
Kevin Boss should hang them up.
Good call by The Reggie shipping squishy-dome out of town.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
mcfadden20
Im all in. The future is bright. Dont lump me with the haters
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
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They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.
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In any line of work, there is a moment when you are on your own time and can take your guard down relax and let past relationships affect your demenour. But coach Allen is “on the clock” while he is on the field and for that matter in any public place. He deserves srcutiny for his jovial behaviour with his ex-boss as it conveys a lack of conviction or even apathy.
Put into laymans terms, do you crack jokes in the back of the company’s bad 3rd quarter report where everyone is discussing layoffs and downsizing and shareprices are being rocked, but you want to ham it up with an old buddy? There is a time and place for that, but definitely off camera. DA has to learn that his job doesn’t end the minute the clock strikes 0:00. He has to represent the Raiders publically as long as the camera lens is on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
mcfadden20
Im all in. The future is bright. Dont lump me with the haters
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Ok sorry about that … Here’s to going 8-4 rest of the way
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Key issue that needs addressing immediately coming out of the bye week.
Bump and run secondary is playing waaaay off the line and allowing pitch and catch for 5 yards before the CB even starts to close. You don’t even need to be Peyton freaking Manning to figure out how to march downfield on the Raider defense methodically. It’s slow torture to watch and unfathomable to force zero punts for the game. Tarver has to correct the DB situation and scheme because whatever ‘looks’ he’s throwing at the QB aren’t working.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
lol amen
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
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They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.
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In any line of work, there is a moment when you are on your own time and can take your guard down relax and let past relationships affect your demenour. But coach Allen is “on the clock” while he is on the field and for that matter in any public place. He deserves srcutiny for his jovial behaviour with his ex-boss as it conveys a lack of conviction or even apathy.
Put into laymans terms, do you crack jokes in the back of the company’s bad 3rd quarter report where everyone is discussing layoffs and downsizing and shareprices are being rocked, but you want to ham it up with an old buddy? There is a time and place for that, but definitely off camera. DA has to learn that his job doesn’t end the minute the clock strikes 0:00. He has to represent the Raiders publically as long as the camera lens is on.
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Thank you.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Key issue that needs addressing immediately coming out of the bye week.
Bump and run secondary is playing waaaay off the line and allowing pitch and catch for 5 yards before the CB even starts to close. You don’t even need to be Peyton freaking Manning to figure out how to march downfield on the Raider defense methodically. It’s slow torture to watch and unfathomable to force zero punts for the game. Tarver has to correct the DB situation and scheme because whatever ‘looks’ he’s throwing at the QB aren’t working.
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Lets hope they can get some wins with these backups starting then hopefully get Spencer and Bartell back rest of the way and these backups will play where they belong and do a pretty good job in those areas
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
SFWeekly just ran a big expose on Bleacher Report:
http://www.sfweekly.com/2012-10-03/news/bleacher-report-sports-journalism-internet-espn-news-technology/
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
JT Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
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They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.
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In any line of work, there is a moment when you are on your own time and can take your guard down relax and let past relationships affect your demenour. But coach Allen is “on the clock” while he is on the field and for that matter in any public place. He deserves srcutiny for his jovial behaviour with his ex-boss as it conveys a lack of conviction or even apathy.
Put into laymans terms, do you crack jokes in the back of the company’s bad 3rd quarter report where everyone is discussing layoffs and downsizing and shareprices are being rocked, but you want to ham it up with an old buddy? There is a time and place for that, but definitely off camera. DA has to learn that his job doesn’t end the minute the clock strikes 0:00. He has to represent the Raiders publically as long as the camera lens is on.
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Thank you.
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I think that would have been a showcase of unsportsmanship had he went to shake his hand with a grumpy face and act all butt hurt, 5 seconds smiling with his ex boss is not going to affect the way he will do his job rest of the way
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Maybe eventually Dennis Allen does change the culture and gets the team back on track. Maybe brighter times are coming. But the whole wide smile pat on the back of former boss and bitter division rival can only be seen as a rookie moment getting caught up in a situation that he’s unprepared for. He’s gotta be better than that. No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Maybe eventually Dennis Allen does change the culture and gets the team back on track. Maybe brighter times are coming. But the whole wide smile pat on the back of former boss and bitter division rival can only be seen as a rookie moment getting caught up in a situation that he’s unprepared for. He’s gotta be better than that. No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?
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rookie mistake by a rookie coach, but not a good sign for players to see, like its OK to loose… Al Davis must be turning in his grave
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Some of you guys are ridiculous. Al Davis really f*cked with your heads. Years of his abuse have really caused some mental damage to Raider Nation.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Maybe eventually Dennis Allen does change the culture and gets the team back on track. Maybe brighter times are coming. But the whole wide smile pat on the back of former boss and bitter division rival can only be seen as a rookie moment getting caught up in a situation that he’s unprepared for. He’s gotta be better than that. No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?
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No, but i hardly see that as something that shows he doesn’t care about the final result, he does care about it and he will do anything to make sure his team does not come out flat against the Falcons as it came out against the Buncos
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?
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John Fox took his foot off the gas about 9 minutes into the 3rd quarter. This could have been much worse than 37-6. Scowling and storming off at a guy who did you a favor would not have been good. If Allen wanted to scowl and show some emotion, I wouldn’t waste it on Fox, I would take it into the locker room and film study where it belongs.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
rookie mistake by a rookie coach, but not a good sign for players to see, like its OK to loose… Al Davis must be turning in his grave
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agreed JT
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Some of you guys are ridiculous. Al Davis really f*cked with your heads. Years of his abuse have really caused some mental damage to Raider Nation.
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Clearly.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
John Fox took his foot off the gas about 9 minutes into the 3rd quarter. This could have been much worse than 37-6. Scowling and storming off at a guy who did you a favor would not have been good. If Allen wanted to scowl and show some emotion, I wouldn’t waste it on Fox, I would take it into the locker room and film study where it belongs.
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If in fact Fox did DA a favor by taking off the gad pedal, than it’s worse than I thought. It’s tantamount to a weakling thanking a bully for only kicking him in the belly once after shoving him down and taking his milk money. SMH
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
guest123 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
rookie mistake by a rookie coach, but not a good sign for players to see, like its OK to loose… Al Davis must be turning in his grave
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agreed JT
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Believe me he’s really hurt to lose badly like that and i believe he can’t wait to face him again when both of his starting CB’s are back ..he can’t do anything with scrubs starting at CB
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
Raider Nation, the most paranoid and psychologically damaged fans in the world.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Guys dial it down a bit and keep things in perspective.
Last year marked the end of raider football as we know it, not because only because davis died but because his hand picked guys were shipped out of town and fired.
Hue jack started the ball rolling deconstructing davis’s raiders when he brought in palmer, the qb that davis vetoed in the off season. When jc was dumped in the middle of the night, i came in here and told everyone that the raider would never be the same. I was right.
Hu jack then also abandoned Davis’s beloved man to man defense, and brought in another bungles reject in housh, while benching davis’s prized receiver (and the teams best receiver) DHB. This was a clear sign that the silver and black cloak that hu jack rode in on was nothing more than an empty facade and his only allegiance to the raider way was the vertical offense.
The team spiraled out of control amidst finger pointing, blame games, poor efforts, and locker room feuding, with hu jack being the main instigator of most of it.
Big mack and mark had no choice they had to remove hu jack, as he was a free radical that was causing cancer in the body.
Big mack’s hands were tied due to lack of draft picks, and over paid under producing players. Big mack must tear down the entire building in order to build something new.
Of course i saw this coming and i warned those that wished for davis’s death, that we were entering a full rebuild. Most here just figured with palmer on board and healthy weapons it would be an automatic path to victory and champagne in the locker room for years to come. some of us wise enough to recognize it saw this team as a mismatched hodge podge of ill suited misfits, under achievers, and seat warming hold overs on a year long try out.
After expressing this concern we were met with fierce blow back, claiming we were “haters” or “racist” and that we needed to “get on board”. We were told “this is not a rebuild” and we only thought it was because “our favorite players were gone”. After weeks it is clear that those who said the rebuild was on, were % correct.
This is what a rebuild looks and feels like. No one wanted to accept the fact that all hold overs (even your hero palmer) was on an interim trial run. mnow the pain of realization that we are again at the bottom and no hold overs are safe is setting in.
Big mack is looking at all players, and coaches. i think D.A will be back next year, as he will deserve a chance to coach a team that he puts together to run his schemes of choice. this may take a year or two to completely purge the roster and find the system fits. this does not mean that knapp will stick beyond this year though. palmer and knapp will need to produce big time over the next few games or their time in raider land will come to an awkward unceremonious close.
So instead of being upset at big mack for rebuilding, remember that many of you are getting exactly what you asked for. No davis no jc, no drafting db’s, no 40 time marvels, no press man coverage. Are you happy now?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
Raider Nation, the most paranoid and psychologically damaged fans in the world.
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thank you for showing up and confirming that
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
mcfadden20. Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
Believe me he’s really hurt to lose badly like that and i believe he can’t wait to face him again when both of his starting CB’s are back ..he can’t do anything with scrubs starting at CB
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Somehow, I don’t think Bartell and Spencer would have made a big difference. Manning didn’t even have to send his uniform in for dry cleaning this week. The line had no push, the LB’s were chasing after ghosts all day. It was an offensive clinic that PM put on us and he always had at least 2 places to select where to throw to wide open receivers. Like shooting fish in a barrel. 2 starting CB’s won’t make much difference.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
lefty12 Says:
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
DA said he was down field and didn’t have that great of a view.He was told by people upstairs the replay was inconclusive.
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He said that? I thought he said what he saw he thought it was the right call. He was right there on the sideline by the marker with a few players, wasn’t he? Thats what I saw, it looked like he had the best view, not sure why he didn’t challenge it
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
#632
It was clearly a first down on review, DA would’ve seen the replay in time too to throw the flag. It was THE momentum shifter in the game. We needed to sustain a drive and put up a TD. Our defense was nearly gassed at that point and needed a rest. Even if it was inconclusive to DA at the time, he should’ve still thrown the flag like a good HC realizing like we all did that it was an important moment in the game worth throwing the flag on.
Not doing so, what transpired was exactly what we said/felt would … another quick 3 and out, Manning would come out, put together a long sustained drive resulting in a TD, gassing our defense even more, and now trailing 17-6, starting to play ‘catch-up’ football, and we imploded immediately giving up the blocked punt on the next quick 3 and out.
Our offense cannot sustain drives. It’s all scheme and play-calling and lack of imagination by DA/Knapp in personnel usage.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Kevin Boss shut down for the duration of the season due to post concussion syndrome.
Now I know what went into his thought process choosing the Chefs after being released by the Raiders. . .
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 am
Are you happy now?
post 629.
No most definitely not happy with the product.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
GG Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
#632
It was clearly a first down on review, DA would’ve seen the replay in time too to throw the flag. It was THE momentum shifter in the game. We needed to sustain a drive and put up a TD. Our defense was nearly gassed at that point and needed a rest. Even if it was inconclusive to DA at the time, he should’ve still thrown the flag like a good HC realizing like we all did that it was an important moment in the game worth throwing the flag on.
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I thought he should have challenged the spot. But he had already used one challenge. It was still 10-6 at that point. I can see why he didn’t do it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
To be consistent the moto is to go back to what you do well. What do the Raiders do well at this point? The Raiders are trying to figure that out. Now, how long will it take them to figure that out and get the personnel to be good at doing those things well? Will Branch be part of the new resurgence after signing the new contract or does Reggie get another three years to add to the other 3yrs some are already giving him?
Give me some positive on the new contracts Reggie and DA have made. Will they shuffle their first hand picks and be allowed years of rebuilding with judgements?
I though the Raiders org. owed us ,the fans, the best chance to be competitive this year after being so close the last two years. Mark, Reggie and a few fans disagreed, tossed the best chances out the window in hope of the future no matter how long it takes.
Goodbye to the best changes the Raiders had this years Mark, Reggie, stripped the Identity the Raiders gained.Years of bottled emotions is the favor the few are asking while the majority were asking for one more year of competitiveness.
The few won out on the decision to to rebuild and rebuilding start from day one.
ON DAY ONE THE RAIDERS LEADERS WILL BE JUDGED!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
here is a very very very interesting take.
I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
I don’t think Manning even did anything that special against us. Jason Campbell could have thrown for 300 yards against that defense.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
here is a very very very interesting take.
I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen
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Good point.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
One first down would not have helped us vs dungver. Im glad he didnt challenge. Ended the game that much sooner.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Quit studying tape. I bet I can fix this team in two moves:
1) Fire Knapp
2) Bench Slowlando
There we go! 13-3.
Yeah baby!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
For your 2013 NFL Draft consideration, may I present to you Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JATMzVLBA0
Watch at the 2:15 mark as the 6′7 245lb monster runs stride-for-stride in man coverage against a slot receiver.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
We have a really good punter.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
here is a very very very interesting take.
I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen
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Posted that link yesterday – very interesting read indeed. Hansen is a solid writer.
And I said similar things about Palmer in the WCO before the season. I think that so far it has suited his strengths pretty well. The receivers, on the other hand…
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
WELL PUT POST-629.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
I wont judge reggie until i see several drafts play out.. thats his most important job.. but these coaches are àssholes.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Mistic – Awesome post at #629.
I especially agree with this part:
“Big mack is looking at all players, and coaches. i think D.A will be back next year, as he will deserve a chance to coach a team that he puts together to run his schemes of choice. this may take a year or two to completely purge the roster and find the system fits. this does not mean that knapp will stick beyond this year though. palmer and knapp will need to produce big time over the next few games or their time in raider land will come to an awkward unceremonious close.”
Well said, friendo.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
Raiders offense: 16.8 ppts per game, ranked 29th. TOP 25:16 minutes/ game, ranked 31st…
And Knapp thinks they are one cut or one block away from being great.
Pathetic.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
here is a very very very interesting take.
I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen
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I don’t know that ANY QB is a great fit for a vertical offense. It’s hard to complete a lot of those without turning the ball over either interceptions or fumbles because you have to hold the ball. That was a huge factor in JR’s demise in 2009, especially when you consider the rookie WRs and suspect line. When I watch the games, it’s obvious Palmer is in the best possible situation. I bet he loves Knapp’s O.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
I agree that not challenging the third down spot was the turning point in the game.
Obviously the Raiders had decided to defer the kickoff to the second half if they won the toss. By not challenging the spot that tactic went up in smoke, along with any chance of remaining competitive in the game. . .
And Mistic, how in the Hell did DHB get “benched,” as you say when he ultimately barely missed a 1,000 yard season & was the Raiders leading statistical receiver? What are you smoking? You really should share. . .
I think most of we Raider fans have been pragmatic regarding the fate of the 2012 Raider team. We just didn’t expect a return to the Art Shell days. Of course most of us are NOT satisfied with Greg Knapp. But you are dellusional in thinking JC is better than CP. It’s unbelivable the hatred you display for CP. You are by no means an objective fan. You are completely driven by unabridged emotion. So, there you go. . .hopefully, as DA said the ZBS is “on the table.” That would be a start. How else does one explain the downfall (so far) of the Raiders OL (regression in it’s most pure form). . .
It’s the defense, lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball & the OL & DL woefully underperforming. . .not CP. He hasn’t thrown many pciks & his mastering of the no huddle was the prime reason they beat the Steelers (sans some of their playmakers; Polamalu & Harrison). .
So you have to be a realist, something not in your DNA. . .I predicted 6-10 or 7-9 this year. The only outcome I didn’t have right before the season started was the (dis)Charger result. I thought they would be 2-2 @ this point. So I’m not far off. But I’m certainly not hopeful. . .never harbored any expectations of a playoff contending year. . .
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 am
uh oh dont look now but my boy EJ MANUAL is now starting to garner some hiesman hype, and is moving up draft boards.
This kid was the single most under appreciated qb in the country coming into the season in my view. Many jumped on the GENO SMITH train only after his amazing bowl performance, but if you had watched him at all for the last 3 years you already knew he was a major talent.
manual on the other hand was injured and fsu has done him no favors in terms of helping him develop. I strongly believe that with good coaching he can be as good or better than cam newton. he isnt the runner that cam is but he is more polished as a passer, he is only the all time accc comp % leader.
he is tough as they come playing the bowl game on a broken leg and leading a last second win. he is smart with the ball and clutch. Most impressive about the following stat line the completion percentage, the eye popping yards per attempt and td to interception ratio. These numbers tell me that he throws the ball down field and reads coverages as well as any qb in the country, and already has mastered the balance between being a play maker, game manger, and pocket passer.
If we dont get geno, or pryor is not the answer please give me this kid
88 / 120 73.3 cmp% 1147yds 9.56 ypa 9tds 1 int 176.7qbr
rushing: 34 att 197yds 5.8 avg 1 td
proof of the clutch gene
3rd down his rating is 164.2!!!
4th quarter his rating is an other worldly 198.7!!!
these are the most important stats for a qb
EJ IS FOR REAL
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
1 more A’s!
Let’s get it!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
What the hell happened to the green party?
Am I the last man standing?
I guess only the strong survive…
Naw, I’m just kidding.
Bring back the green party!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
1 more A’s!
Let’s get it!
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DMAC, tell the A’s to send some of that mojo on over to their roommates.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
1 more A’s!
Let’s get it!
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DMAC, tell the A’s to send some of that mojo on over to their roommates.
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I fk’n tried already. It doesn’t seem to be working.
lol
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
That was one of the dumbest articles ever written. lst off “if” Jackson made the playoffs? Jackson basically went 0-5 down the stretch when it mattered most. AND Jackson was getting rolled badly. Right there it says he could not compete with other coaches OR his team quit on him or BOTH.
McFadden would have MORE yardage? McFadden took last year off with some “injury” that took 8 weeks to diagnose. Most likely mcFadden was one of those players that quit on Jackson.
Did Jackson immediately go back to Baltimore or New England or some other highly successful franchise just waiting to rehire him? NO. He went to the perennial doormat Cincinnatti Bungholes because no one else would hire him. For good reason. Anyone pining over Hue jackson is a complete moron. Sorry.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
What the hell happened to the green party?
Am I the last man standing?
I guess only the strong survive…
Naw, I’m just kidding.
Bring back the green party!!
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DMAC !!
said good afternoon a while ago to the GreenParty and got no responce.
good day Mr President !!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Jackson = a great play caller
I would bring em back to run the offense. Thats about it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Mistic -
I want to see EJ continue to improve – there were a few games last season where he was not so impressive.
I like Geno Smith better as an overall prospect – better footwork, patience in the pocket, and short/intermediate accuracy – but EJ has definitely surprised.
Tyler Wilson’s concussion history really concerns me, and Matt Barkley just isn’t very good. He’s pretty much Jimmy Clausen.
As much as I think Palmer hasn’t been the problem with the Raiders’ offense this season; if Smith keeps playing the way he has been, the Raiders find themselves in a position to draft him, and their scouts and the folks in the front office think he’s a guy who can be the future for the Raiders, I’d love to see him be the pick.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Well stated, Seymour. I remember some idiot around here telling me last December if Hue got fired, he would be rehired as a HC or OC in a heartbeat at another team. Instead, he’s a DB positions coach. LMAO
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
What the hell happened to the green party?
Am I the last man standing?
I guess only the strong survive…
Naw, I’m just kidding.
Bring back the green party!!
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DMAC !!
said good afternoon a while ago to the GreenParty and got no responce.
good day Mr President !!
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ODB!!
What up man?
How you been?
Elections are nearing. We’ll need those electoral votes. Your in charge of sending the green packages in the East coast.
Make us proud!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
antispy3 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
I agree that not challenging the third down spot was the turning point in the game.
Obviously the Raiders had decided to defer the kickoff to the second half if they won the toss. By not challenging the spot that tactic went up in smoke, along with any chance of remaining competitive in the game. . .
And Mistic, how in the Hell did DHB get “benched,” as you say when he ultimately barely missed a 1,000 yard season & was the Raiders leading statistical receiver? What are you smoking? You really should share. . .
I think most of we Raider fans have been pragmatic regarding the fate of the 2012 Raider team. We just didn’t expect a return to the Art Shell days. Of course most of us are NOT satisfied with Greg Knapp. But you are dellusional in thinking JC is better than CP. It’s unbelivable the hatred you display for CP. You are by no means an objective fan. You are completely driven by unabridged emotion. So, there you go. . .hopefully, as DA said the ZBS is “on the table.” That would be a start. How else does one explain the downfall (so far) of the Raiders OL (regression in it’s most pure form). . .
It’s the defense, lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball & the OL & DL woefully underperforming. . .not CP. He hasn’t thrown many pciks & his mastering of the no huddle was the prime reason they beat the Steelers (sans some of their playmakers; Polamalu & Harrison). .
So you have to be a realist, something not in your DNA. . .I predicted 6-10 or 7-9 this year. The only outcome I didn’t have right before the season started was the (dis)Charger result. I thought they would be 2-2 @ this point. So I’m not far off. But I’m certainly not hopeful. . .never harbored any expectations of a playoff contending year. . .
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my post made no claims about which qb was better (although you already know what i think) i simply recounted the chain of events and the results since.
DHB and kevin boss were mysteriously benched for a week, it was widely reported that DHb was not happy about palmer joining the team and the way JC was treated. In my eyes the benching was punitive and petty on hues part. this was the second donkey game last year look it up.
My post did not place blame on palmer for this seasons woes, only pointed out the heart ache that is associated with a rebuild, and the shock of those that denied what was obvious. palmer is actually doing the best he can, and if he didnt play the way he is now the season would be far far worse. His best simply isnt good enough to save this season.
If i remember you were one that didnt think it was a rebuild and palmer would lead us deep into the playoffs.
dont shoot the messenger
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Seymour – doesn’t seem like you read the article very carefully. It was in no way saying that Hue still being around would make a difference for the Raiders. Just the opposite, in fact.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
lol… will do sir !!
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
So the Writer is saying a better running game with a healthy McFadden leads Palmer to throw more or the same amount of interceptions? What is it? You can’t have your cake and it to. The writer to come to the scenario of 1-3 for both coaches at the end of game four don’t have a leg to stand on. All I think he is saying in the article is give Reggie and DA time.
I also think it is untrue that the writer said Hue Jackson’s offensive took time. the Raiders had an Identity from the Start. How else could McFaaden be the leading rusher through game six?
Reggie / DA supporters including the writer nice try but try again!
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
http://www.chargers.com/team/depth-chart.html
Norv Turner and AJ Smith running the Chargers into the ground. They have promoted Jackie Battle as the starter over Ryan Mathews. LMAO
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Jackson = a great play caller
I would bring em back to run the offense. Thats about it.
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If Jackson was as great a play caller as some of you think, Janikowsky would not have had such a great year. Jackson would set up for FG’s not TD’s. That’s one of the reasons why we lost. And let’s not even start about the goose eggs he kept putting up in the 2nd half of games.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Seymour – doesn’t seem like you read the article very carefully. It was in no way saying that Hue still being around would make a difference for the Raiders. Just the opposite, in fact.
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No I did get that, but still I don’t want to hear Jackson was waaaay better, or that the players would have played harder. We saw it, they didn’t.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
An offense based around a vertical passing game and low-percentage throws = more picks for Palmer.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
That was one of the dumbest articles ever written. lst off “if” Jackson made the playoffs? Jackson basically went 0-5 down the stretch when it mattered most. AND Jackson was getting rolled badly. Right there it says he could not compete with other coaches OR his team quit on him or BOTH.
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wow bra. You have left out the fact that hu jack lost his starting qb, many teams have tanked when the starter goes out. ask the colts, or what about kitna subbing for romo. ther is a huge drop off in most cases when the starter goes out. Although you may not want to admit this but the starting qb had the offense in high gear, palmer be it rust or lack of knowledge in the playbook wasnt really able to match or sustain what jc started. i dont simply mean the stats but the leadership and winning too.
You lose your starting qb and 9 times out of 10 it will be painful
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Jackson = a great play caller
I would bring em back to run the offense. Thats about it.
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If Jackson was as great a play caller as some of you think, Janikowsky would not have had such a great year. Jackson would set up for FG’s not TD’s. That’s one of the reasons why we lost. And let’s not even start about the goose eggs he kept putting up in the 2nd half of games.
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Who would you have running the offense right about now?
Hue or Knapp?
Its not even close.
Knapp came in wit this BS zone scheme. Totally fked our offense up.
Last year the problem wasn’t the offense, it was the defense.
This year its both.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@YoungAmerican
So you agree with Mistic that all that ails the Raiders offense is a bad QB?
That our running game isn’t the fault of the O-Line or McFadden, but Palmer…
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Hue jack started the ball rolling deconstructing davis’s raiders when he brought in palmer, the qb that davis vetoed in the off season. ” palmer and knapp will need to produce big time “=================================So now it’s revisionist history and slander by association. This is freaking hilarious. I’d say you can’t make this kind of sh1t up, except mistic does.
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
YEAH!!!!! The A’s are the embodiment of what Oakland is all about. The Raiders need to hang around the A’s more often to learn what it means to have some heart!
A’s = team with ballplayers who make plays and are knocking on the door of the ALCS! Raiders Take Notice!!