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DHB says everything going according to plan

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey took another step toward a seemingly inevitable return on Oct. 14 by participating in practice Tuesday.

“Just out there, running routes, catching the ball, getting in a little practice,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “We’ve got a plan for me. Today was step No. 1, and I feel pretty good.’’

Heyward-Bey was knocked unconscious on Sept. 23 against the Pittsburgh Steelers by Ryan Mundy and also suffered a neck strain when he hit the ground. He was taken from the field in a motorized cart.

Asked if he was 100 percent, Heyward-Bey said, “I took a hard hit, man. I don’t know. (I was) good enough to practice.’’

Teammate Derek Hagan was happy to see Heyward-Bey back for a position group which has had its issues with injuries.

“It definitely was a plus for us just to have the whole group out there healthy going into the bye week,’’ Hagan said. “That’s the main thing going into the bye week you want everybody to be healthy and focusing on the job they have to do.’’

Despite the lopsided nature of a 37-6 loss to Denver, Heyward-Bey believes the offense is close to breaking loose.

`We’re real close. We’re one cut block away, we’re one cut away, one block down the field,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ We showed a little bit of it against Pittsburgh and we had a little bit here and there. You just have to keep grinding. If you give up on things you’ll never see if it’s good or not.’’

– Ranked No. 2 in the NFL in rushing in 2010 and No. 7 in 2011, the Raiders are ranked dead last through four games with an average of 60.8 yards per game.

It’s less than half of the 131.9 yards per game Oakland averaged a year ago.

“It’s not where you want to be,’’ running back Mike Goodson said. “We’ve got a lot of competitors in here and it’s not sitting right with guys. We’re definitely out there working.’’

– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) and tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) did not practice and remain out indefinitely.

– The Raiders practice again Wednesday, and then are off through Sunday. They return to work Monday and take another day off before preparations for Atlanta begin in earnest.

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  • Plunketthead

    I can imagine Fox telling DA not to take the job.
    Its the worse mistake you will ever make.
    Your team will suck for years
    I will kick your butt and you better not be pissed
    You better walk up with a grin and say you were right

  • mcfadden20.

    What’s up with Niner trolls on this page? If not for 1 coach that Al Davis recommened to the the Niners in their history they would have been Detroit Lions

  • zopi

    Amazing message from BigMac, “we’ll get this thing turned around.”
    According to Romo and LoNeal, on the Raiders OWN post-game show, “this Raiders team does not have the talent to compete in the NFL.” Mighty harsh words.

    How is RegMac going to “turn this thing around?” This year. next, in 3 years? No wonder the boy genius, Dennis the Menace, sounds like a robot, well schooled in football cliches.

    At #28 in the power rankings ahead of only the Browns (rookies at Qb and Rb), Indy (rookie Qb and rebuilding), JVille (Gabbert?), and Raiders (Palmer, DMac, Seymour, Kelly, RoMac, Tyvon) is this some sort of sick joke on the Nation?

  • mcfadden20.

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I can imagine Fox telling DA not to take the job.
    Its the worse mistake you will ever make.
    Your team will suck for years
    I will kick your butt and you better not be pissed
    You better walk up with a grin and say you were right

    Man you guys are going too far… we just suck in secondary and we’re getting exposed with freaking short passes, which is the reason we can’t get off the field on 3rd downs and can’t get any sacks,if both our CB;s are healthy we are atleast 2-2 right now.. we don’t suck as much as you guys make it sound like.. i know you guys were like we are the worst team ever after we got crushed by Miami Dolphins and i told u guys no matter how bad a team played 1 week , these are NFL players and Coaches they can come back and beat any body anytime if they prepare well and play well on any given sunday.. Don’t be surprised if we beat unbeaten 5-0 Falcons after the bye week

  • mcfadden20.

    zopi Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Amazing message from BigMac, “we’ll get this thing turned around.”
    According to Romo and LoNeal, on the Raiders OWN post-game show, “this Raiders team does not have the talent to compete in the NFL.” Mighty harsh words.

    How is RegMac going to “turn this thing around?” This year. next, in 3 years? No wonder the boy genius, Dennis the Menace, sounds like a robot, well schooled in football cliches.

    At #28 in the power rankings ahead of only the Browns (rookies at Qb and Rb), Indy (rookie Qb and rebuilding), JVille (Gabbert?), and Raiders (Palmer, DMac, Seymour, Kelly, RoMac, Tyvon) is this some sort of sick joke on the Nation?


    Calm down , we are not as bad as these games make us look like , we’re better than that … we’ll come back and beat the 5-0 Falcons after the bye

  • bcz24

    I aint getting used to a losing organization… I feel bad for you… that u must endure your coach being the dummy of the AFC West… even Norv Turner owns him now.
    *********************
    Getting used to a losing organization? The Raiders have been a losing organization since 1983. If you are a fan, you are used to losing.

    Norv Turner owns DA? By outscoring him by 8 points? By only being able to score 1 TD on the leagues worst defense? By having to settle for FG after FG even though they started inside our 40 numerous time? Come on man.

    Bill Belechick’s first year with the Patriots… 5-11
    Tom Coughlin’s first year as coach of the Jags… 4-12 (went on to a 14-2 year in 1999) first year with the giants 6-10
    Bill Parcells first year with the giants 6-10, won 2 super bowls… first year with NE 5-11 won and afc championship.

    You know, new head coaches RARELY inherit good teams, usually they take over for garbage. 1 year turn arounds are incredibly rare. Who’s the moron that judges what a coach can do with only 4 games to base it on.

  • Plunketthead

    Isnt DA known as a people person? Someone who gets along with todays players?

    I wonder how the coach across the bay gets along with his players. Will they get tired of his act before there run is over?

  • mcfadden20.

    bcz24 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am

    I aint getting used to a losing organization… I feel bad for you… that u must endure your coach being the dummy of the AFC West… even Norv Turner owns him now.
    *********************
    Getting used to a losing organization? The Raiders have been a losing organization since 1983. If you are a fan, you are used to losing.

    Norv Turner owns DA? By outscoring him by 8 points? By only being able to score 1 TD on the leagues worst defense? By having to settle for FG after FG even though they started inside our 40 numerous time? Come on man.

    Bill Belechick’s first year with the Patriots… 5-11
    Tom Coughlin’s first year as coach of the Jags… 4-12 (went on to a 14-2 year in 1999) first year with the giants 6-10
    Bill Parcells first year with the giants 6-10, won 2 super bowls… first year with NE 5-11 won and afc championship.

    You know, new head coaches RARELY inherit good teams, usually they take over for garbage. 1 year turn arounds are incredibly rare. Who’s the moron that judges what a coach can do with only 4 games to base it on.

    Thanks man , they make it sound like every coach can come in and inherit a team that had a good D like the Niners.. and some one like Harbaugh would come in and just have to work on 1 side of the field and they will be instant contenders

  • Just Fire Baby

    Kevin Boss should hang them up.

    Good call by The Reggie shipping squishy-dome out of town.

  • Plunketthead

    mcfadden20

    Im all in. The future is bright. Dont lump me with the haters

  • guest123

    bcz24 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
    *************************
    They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.

    ***********

    In any line of work, there is a moment when you are on your own time and can take your guard down relax and let past relationships affect your demenour. But coach Allen is “on the clock” while he is on the field and for that matter in any public place. He deserves srcutiny for his jovial behaviour with his ex-boss as it conveys a lack of conviction or even apathy.

    Put into laymans terms, do you crack jokes in the back of the company’s bad 3rd quarter report where everyone is discussing layoffs and downsizing and shareprices are being rocked, but you want to ham it up with an old buddy? There is a time and place for that, but definitely off camera. DA has to learn that his job doesn’t end the minute the clock strikes 0:00. He has to represent the Raiders publically as long as the camera lens is on.

  • mcfadden20.

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am

    mcfadden20

    Im all in. The future is bright. Dont lump me with the haters

    __

    Ok sorry about that … Here’s to going 8-4 rest of the way

  • guest123

    Key issue that needs addressing immediately coming out of the bye week.

    Bump and run secondary is playing waaaay off the line and allowing pitch and catch for 5 yards before the CB even starts to close. You don’t even need to be Peyton freaking Manning to figure out how to march downfield on the Raider defense methodically. It’s slow torture to watch and unfathomable to force zero punts for the game. Tarver has to correct the DB situation and scheme because whatever ‘looks’ he’s throwing at the QB aren’t working.

  • Plunketthead

    lol amen

  • JT

    Guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
    bcz24 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
    *************************
    They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.

    ***********

    In any line of work, there is a moment when you are on your own time and can take your guard down relax and let past relationships affect your demenour. But coach Allen is “on the clock” while he is on the field and for that matter in any public place. He deserves srcutiny for his jovial behaviour with his ex-boss as it conveys a lack of conviction or even apathy.

    Put into laymans terms, do you crack jokes in the back of the company’s bad 3rd quarter report where everyone is discussing layoffs and downsizing and shareprices are being rocked, but you want to ham it up with an old buddy? There is a time and place for that, but definitely off camera. DA has to learn that his job doesn’t end the minute the clock strikes 0:00. He has to represent the Raiders publically as long as the camera lens is on.

    Thank you.

  • mcfadden20.

    guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Key issue that needs addressing immediately coming out of the bye week.

    Bump and run secondary is playing waaaay off the line and allowing pitch and catch for 5 yards before the CB even starts to close. You don’t even need to be Peyton freaking Manning to figure out how to march downfield on the Raider defense methodically. It’s slow torture to watch and unfathomable to force zero punts for the game. Tarver has to correct the DB situation and scheme because whatever ‘looks’ he’s throwing at the QB aren’t working.

    —-
    Lets hope they can get some wins with these backups starting then hopefully get Spencer and Bartell back rest of the way and these backups will play where they belong and do a pretty good job in those areas

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck
  • mcfadden20.

    JT Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
    bcz24 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    One really bad sign for me, was him laughing with the bronco coach at the end of game. WTF whas that?… Thats says a lot for me, I dont what a coach being friendly after being embarrased… he also doesnt command a lot of respect on the sideline, looks very bland and his 2nd half adjustments are non existent.
    *************************
    They spent 100 hours a week together last year, Allen and Fox are great friends. This is their job. When the game is over, it’s over. They aren’t instantly going to hate each other. And who cares if Allen isn’t running up and down the field screaming at everyone, thats not his style, not his personality. A lot of coaches through history have been very stoic and composed no matter what is going on. It doesn’t mean they are ineffective. You know what you get when you constantly scream and yell? Ignored. Everyone stops listening.

    ***********

    In any line of work, there is a moment when you are on your own time and can take your guard down relax and let past relationships affect your demenour. But coach Allen is “on the clock” while he is on the field and for that matter in any public place. He deserves srcutiny for his jovial behaviour with his ex-boss as it conveys a lack of conviction or even apathy.

    Put into laymans terms, do you crack jokes in the back of the company’s bad 3rd quarter report where everyone is discussing layoffs and downsizing and shareprices are being rocked, but you want to ham it up with an old buddy? There is a time and place for that, but definitely off camera. DA has to learn that his job doesn’t end the minute the clock strikes 0:00. He has to represent the Raiders publically as long as the camera lens is on.

    Thank you.

    I think that would have been a showcase of unsportsmanship had he went to shake his hand with a grumpy face and act all butt hurt, 5 seconds smiling with his ex boss is not going to affect the way he will do his job rest of the way

  • guest123

    Maybe eventually Dennis Allen does change the culture and gets the team back on track. Maybe brighter times are coming. But the whole wide smile pat on the back of former boss and bitter division rival can only be seen as a rookie moment getting caught up in a situation that he’s unprepared for. He’s gotta be better than that. No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?

  • JT

    Guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
    Maybe eventually Dennis Allen does change the culture and gets the team back on track. Maybe brighter times are coming. But the whole wide smile pat on the back of former boss and bitter division rival can only be seen as a rookie moment getting caught up in a situation that he’s unprepared for. He’s gotta be better than that. No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?


    rookie mistake by a rookie coach, but not a good sign for players to see, like its OK to loose… Al Davis must be turning in his grave

  • https://twitter.com/Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter)

    Some of you guys are ridiculous. Al Davis really f*cked with your heads. Years of his abuse have really caused some mental damage to Raider Nation.

  • mcfadden20.

    guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Maybe eventually Dennis Allen does change the culture and gets the team back on track. Maybe brighter times are coming. But the whole wide smile pat on the back of former boss and bitter division rival can only be seen as a rookie moment getting caught up in a situation that he’s unprepared for. He’s gotta be better than that. No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?

    —-

    No, but i hardly see that as something that shows he doesn’t care about the final result, he does care about it and he will do anything to make sure his team does not come out flat against the Falcons as it came out against the Buncos

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am

    No he doesn’t have to bark or scream or scowl. Just hide his emotions if what he feels is any kind of happiness with the final score of 37-6 that could still bring about an ear to ear grin. Is that too much to ask?
    ==============================================

    John Fox took his foot off the gas about 9 minutes into the 3rd quarter. This could have been much worse than 37-6. Scowling and storming off at a guy who did you a favor would not have been good. If Allen wanted to scowl and show some emotion, I wouldn’t waste it on Fox, I would take it into the locker room and film study where it belongs.

  • guest123

    rookie mistake by a rookie coach, but not a good sign for players to see, like its OK to loose… Al Davis must be turning in his grave

    *******

    agreed JT

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Some of you guys are ridiculous. Al Davis really f*cked with your heads. Years of his abuse have really caused some mental damage to Raider Nation.
    =========================================

    Clearly.

  • guest123

    John Fox took his foot off the gas about 9 minutes into the 3rd quarter. This could have been much worse than 37-6. Scowling and storming off at a guy who did you a favor would not have been good. If Allen wanted to scowl and show some emotion, I wouldn’t waste it on Fox, I would take it into the locker room and film study where it belongs.

    *******

    If in fact Fox did DA a favor by taking off the gad pedal, than it’s worse than I thought. It’s tantamount to a weakling thanking a bully for only kicking him in the belly once after shoving him down and taking his milk money. SMH

  • mcfadden20.

    guest123 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am

    rookie mistake by a rookie coach, but not a good sign for players to see, like its OK to loose… Al Davis must be turning in his grave

    *******

    agreed JT


    Believe me he’s really hurt to lose badly like that and i believe he can’t wait to face him again when both of his starting CB’s are back ..he can’t do anything with scrubs starting at CB

  • https://twitter.com/Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter)

    Raider Nation, the most paranoid and psychologically damaged fans in the world.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Guys dial it down a bit and keep things in perspective.

    Last year marked the end of raider football as we know it, not because only because davis died but because his hand picked guys were shipped out of town and fired.

    Hue jack started the ball rolling deconstructing davis’s raiders when he brought in palmer, the qb that davis vetoed in the off season. When jc was dumped in the middle of the night, i came in here and told everyone that the raider would never be the same. I was right.

    Hu jack then also abandoned Davis’s beloved man to man defense, and brought in another bungles reject in housh, while benching davis’s prized receiver (and the teams best receiver) DHB. This was a clear sign that the silver and black cloak that hu jack rode in on was nothing more than an empty facade and his only allegiance to the raider way was the vertical offense.

    The team spiraled out of control amidst finger pointing, blame games, poor efforts, and locker room feuding, with hu jack being the main instigator of most of it.

    Big mack and mark had no choice they had to remove hu jack, as he was a free radical that was causing cancer in the body.

    Big mack’s hands were tied due to lack of draft picks, and over paid under producing players. Big mack must tear down the entire building in order to build something new.

    Of course i saw this coming and i warned those that wished for davis’s death, that we were entering a full rebuild. Most here just figured with palmer on board and healthy weapons it would be an automatic path to victory and champagne in the locker room for years to come. some of us wise enough to recognize it saw this team as a mismatched hodge podge of ill suited misfits, under achievers, and seat warming hold overs on a year long try out.

    After expressing this concern we were met with fierce blow back, claiming we were “haters” or “racist” and that we needed to “get on board”. We were told “this is not a rebuild” and we only thought it was because “our favorite players were gone”. After weeks it is clear that those who said the rebuild was on, were % correct.

    This is what a rebuild looks and feels like. No one wanted to accept the fact that all hold overs (even your hero palmer) was on an interim trial run. mnow the pain of realization that we are again at the bottom and no hold overs are safe is setting in.

    Big mack is looking at all players, and coaches. i think D.A will be back next year, as he will deserve a chance to coach a team that he puts together to run his schemes of choice. this may take a year or two to completely purge the roster and find the system fits. this does not mean that knapp will stick beyond this year though. palmer and knapp will need to produce big time over the next few games or their time in raider land will come to an awkward unceremonious close.

    So instead of being upset at big mack for rebuilding, remember that many of you are getting exactly what you asked for. No davis no jc, no drafting db’s, no 40 time marvels, no press man coverage. Are you happy now?

  • JT

    Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter) Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Raider Nation, the most paranoid and psychologically damaged fans in the world.


    thank you for showing up and confirming that

  • guest123

    mcfadden20. Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Believe me he’s really hurt to lose badly like that and i believe he can’t wait to face him again when both of his starting CB’s are back ..he can’t do anything with scrubs starting at CB

    *********

    Somehow, I don’t think Bartell and Spencer would have made a big difference. Manning didn’t even have to send his uniform in for dry cleaning this week. The line had no push, the LB’s were chasing after ghosts all day. It was an offensive clinic that PM put on us and he always had at least 2 places to select where to throw to wide open receivers. Like shooting fish in a barrel. 2 starting CB’s won’t make much difference.

  • realtruraider

    lefty12 Says:
    October 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    DA said he was down field and didn’t have that great of a view.He was told by people upstairs the replay was inconclusive.

    ——————————————————-

    He said that? I thought he said what he saw he thought it was the right call. He was right there on the sideline by the marker with a few players, wasn’t he? Thats what I saw, it looked like he had the best view, not sure why he didn’t challenge it

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    #632

    It was clearly a first down on review, DA would’ve seen the replay in time too to throw the flag. It was THE momentum shifter in the game. We needed to sustain a drive and put up a TD. Our defense was nearly gassed at that point and needed a rest. Even if it was inconclusive to DA at the time, he should’ve still thrown the flag like a good HC realizing like we all did that it was an important moment in the game worth throwing the flag on.

    Not doing so, what transpired was exactly what we said/felt would … another quick 3 and out, Manning would come out, put together a long sustained drive resulting in a TD, gassing our defense even more, and now trailing 17-6, starting to play ‘catch-up’ football, and we imploded immediately giving up the blocked punt on the next quick 3 and out.

    Our offense cannot sustain drives. It’s all scheme and play-calling and lack of imagination by DA/Knapp in personnel usage.

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    Kevin Boss shut down for the duration of the season due to post concussion syndrome.

    Now I know what went into his thought process choosing the Chefs after being released by the Raiders. . .

  • guest123

    Are you happy now?

    post 629.

    No most definitely not happy with the product.

  • https://twitter.com/Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter)

    GG Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
    #632

    It was clearly a first down on review, DA would’ve seen the replay in time too to throw the flag. It was THE momentum shifter in the game. We needed to sustain a drive and put up a TD. Our defense was nearly gassed at that point and needed a rest. Even if it was inconclusive to DA at the time, he should’ve still thrown the flag like a good HC realizing like we all did that it was an important moment in the game worth throwing the flag on.
    —–
    I thought he should have challenged the spot. But he had already used one challenge. It was still 10-6 at that point. I can see why he didn’t do it.

  • 2romes

    To be consistent the moto is to go back to what you do well. What do the Raiders do well at this point? The Raiders are trying to figure that out. Now, how long will it take them to figure that out and get the personnel to be good at doing those things well? Will Branch be part of the new resurgence after signing the new contract or does Reggie get another three years to add to the other 3yrs some are already giving him?

    Give me some positive on the new contracts Reggie and DA have made. Will they shuffle their first hand picks and be allowed years of rebuilding with judgements?

    I though the Raiders org. owed us ,the fans, the best chance to be competitive this year after being so close the last two years. Mark, Reggie and a few fans disagreed, tossed the best chances out the window in hope of the future no matter how long it takes.

    Goodbye to the best changes the Raiders had this years Mark, Reggie, stripped the Identity the Raiders gained.Years of bottled emotions is the favor the few are asking while the majority were asking for one more year of competitiveness.

    The few won out on the decision to to rebuild and rebuilding start from day one.

    ON DAY ONE THE RAIDERS LEADERS WILL BE JUDGED!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    here is a very very very interesting take.

    I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen

  • https://twitter.com/Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine (Reggie Supporter)

    I don’t think Manning even did anything that special against us. Jason Campbell could have thrown for 300 yards against that defense.

  • JT

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
    here is a very very very interesting take.

    I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen


    Good point.

  • Marks hair

    One first down would not have helped us vs dungver. Im glad he didnt challenge. Ended the game that much sooner.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Quit studying tape. I bet I can fix this team in two moves:

    1) Fire Knapp
    2) Bench Slowlando

    There we go! 13-3.

    Yeah baby!

  • YoungAmerican

    For your 2013 NFL Draft consideration, may I present to you Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JATMzVLBA0

    Watch at the 2:15 mark as the 6’7 245lb monster runs stride-for-stride in man coverage against a slot receiver.

  • Just Win Baby

    We have a really good punter.

  • YoungAmerican

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
    here is a very very very interesting take.

    I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen

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    Posted that link yesterday – very interesting read indeed. Hansen is a solid writer.

    And I said similar things about Palmer in the WCO before the season. I think that so far it has suited his strengths pretty well. The receivers, on the other hand…

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    WELL PUT POST-629.

  • Marks hair

    I wont judge reggie until i see several drafts play out.. thats his most important job.. but these coaches are àssholes.

  • YoungAmerican

    Mistic – Awesome post at #629.

    I especially agree with this part:

    “Big mack is looking at all players, and coaches. i think D.A will be back next year, as he will deserve a chance to coach a team that he puts together to run his schemes of choice. this may take a year or two to completely purge the roster and find the system fits. this does not mean that knapp will stick beyond this year though. palmer and knapp will need to produce big time over the next few games or their time in raider land will come to an awkward unceremonious close.”

    Well said, friendo.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Raiders offense: 16.8 ppts per game, ranked 29th. TOP 25:16 minutes/ game, ranked 31st…

    And Knapp thinks they are one cut or one block away from being great.

    Pathetic.

  • RaiderDebo

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
    here is a very very very interesting take.

    I agree with the writer, palmer was not a good fit for the vertical offense as he is far to mistake prone. He is much better doing the dink and dunk high percentage game at this stage of his career. this is a very unpopular view but the proof is on film. Palmer has cut down the turn overs because the playbook doesnt allow him to be a gun slinger and that is best for him. If palmer cant make this offense work he may not have the goods to remain a starter in this league. this knapp dink and dunk represents palmers best and last chance for success

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355345-what-if-hue-jackson-was-still-the-head-coach-in-oakland?search_query=christopher%20hansen
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    I don’t know that ANY QB is a great fit for a vertical offense. It’s hard to complete a lot of those without turning the ball over either interceptions or fumbles because you have to hold the ball. That was a huge factor in JR’s demise in 2009, especially when you consider the rookie WRs and suspect line. When I watch the games, it’s obvious Palmer is in the best possible situation. I bet he loves Knapp’s O.