Evaluation process in full swing for Raiders
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Coach Dennis Allen promised a thorough evaluation of his team over the next two weeks. That process will take him and his coaching staff from A to Z, Allen said.
As of now, the process is somewhere in the middle, Allen said. Now that the players are off for the next four days, the process kicks into overdrive.
“The process has begun,” Allen said. “We’re going to continue to evaluate it. The players are going to be off but the coaches are still going to have some time to work. We’ll continue to look at every phase of what we’re doing, how we’re doing it, who’s doing it and we’re going to put the play together that we feel like gives us the best opportunity to win.”
The Raiders return to practice Monday in preparation for their next game, Oct. 14 against the Atlanta Falcons.
Quarterback Carson Palmer said the players were instructed to get some rest physically but to keep working mentally. In short, that means studying the video tape given them by their coaches.
“That’s something coach really emphasized,” Palmer said. “You can go one of two ways. You can say, ‘Screw it, I’m going to Vegas and party for four days,’ and that’s not what this team is about. Most of these guys are sticking around, are going to come in and work out.”
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour talked Monday about the need for players to have fun. He said players tend to take losses too hard and lose sight of the fun aspect of the game.
“That isn’t the way the game is played,” Seymour said. “We’re playing a game and we’re very fortunate and blessed to do it. We have to go out and play it as such. As you get down and things get tough, you can’t go into the tank. A man has to come out and have to battle and have to fight and you have to have fun doing it. It’s tough when you have to get it back on track.”
That’s all well and good, Allen said, but there’s a fine line that needs to be walked.
“There’s fun and there’s a sense of purpose,” Allen said. “It’s a game, and you’re supposed to have fun playing the game, but it’s also a business and we have a job to do. Our guys realize that. Nobody takes it any harder than the coaches and players in this organization. We understand that we have a job to do. We understand what’s at stake and we take that job seriously.”
– Third-down conversions and third-down stops. The Raiders struggled in both areas, for the most part, in all four games.
Hence, Allen and his coaching staff are harping on the importance of turning third-down plays into first downs on offense and preventing opposing offenses from converting so many third-down plays into first downs.
“That’s been a big focus for us this week,” Allen said. “It will continue to be a big focus for us. We have to find ways to convert on third down and get off the field on third down defensively.”
The Raiders converted only 1 of 12 third-down plays into first downs against the Broncos last Sunday. Meanwhile, the Broncos netted first downs on 10 of 16 such plays.
Overall, the Raiders converted 27.5 percent of their third-down plays the first four games, while opponents’ success rate reached 53.3 percent.
“It’s been really good to get everybody on the same page and see why certain things we do well work and why certain things that we didn’t do well didn’t work and how we can make adjustments,” Palmer said. “It’s been a good week.”
– People are clamoring for the Raiders to use quarterback Terrelle Pryor in some sort of special package, perhaps along the lines of how the New York Jets use Tim Tebow and the 49ers used Colin Kaepernick against the Jets last Sunday.
Pryor said last week, when asked if anything is in the works, that he isn’t sure when, or if, he might be used in a special package. Allen said Wednesday that how Pryor gets used, if at all, moving forward is under consideration.
“I don’t know,” Allen said. “We’ll look at that. We still have some time before we have to play Atlanta. That will be something we look at. I don’t know if that’s in our plans right now.”
Pryor hasn’t been active for any of Oaklan’s first four regular-season games.
– Allen said recently signed defensive end Andre Carter put together two good practices this week and that Carter is getting closer to seeing the field in a game.
Carter signed last week, but he wasn’t active for the game against the Denver Broncos.
– Allen remains “hopeful” that wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey will be cleared to play by team doctors in time for the Falcons game.
Heyward-Bey practiced today for the second straight day and seemed to hold up well on the heels of the concussion he suffered against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sept. 23.
“He looked fine,” Allen said. “He’s not quite fully back but, obviously, there’s been a lot of improvement. So, that’s encouraging.”
– Seymour was excused from practice today for personal reasons, Allen said.
– In each of the past two games, a Raiders defensive lineman chased a play well downfield and ended up involved in a long gain turning into a fumble recovered by the Raiders.
Against the Steelers, Seymour got his hands on a fumble by a Steelers receiver just before linebacker Philip Wheeler recovered. Last Sunday, defensive end Lamarr Houston recovered a fumble, the result of strong safety Tyvon Branch’s hot pursuit, after a long catch-and-run by Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas.
Defensive coordinator Jason Tarver calls those “hustle plays,” the kind of which the Raiders need more of each game, he said.
– Most teams prefer their bye week fall somewhere near the midpoint of the season. Palmer is one who prefers byes later in the season. However, he said the Raiders bye week comes at an ideal time.
“A lot of times bye week can come … so far into the season that you just need a break,” Palmer said. “I don’t feel like guys think we need a break. We’re frustrated that we are where we are because of the way we’ve executed. And we were all talking and we were in the team meeting, this is a week to get better, there are meetings to get better, workouts, these practices are a chance to get better. I really feel like we got a lot of accomplished this week.”
– The Raiders no doubt can’t wait for the day when the entire playing surface at the Coliseum is covered with grass. That won’t happen until the A’s are finished playing.
Even so, Allen said he and the Raiders are pulling for the A’s to keep their magical season rolling.
“We’ve obviously paid attention to them,” Allen said. “We know they got a chance to win the division. We wish them well and hope for the best for them.”
– The New Jersey Shore Raiders booster club is making sure that former Raiders safety Jack Tatum will be remembered for a long time by having a street named in Tatum’s honor.
The corner of Paulison Ave. and River Drive will be changed to Jack Tatum Drive on Oct. 13, in Passaic, New Jersey. Tatum was born in North Carolina, but he was raised in Passaic, where he attended Passaic High School.
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October 3rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Go A’s
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
A weak 8-8 team (only real win coming against a reeling Chargers team and Palmer playing in front of La Jolla – his backyard. – us barely being able to beat the Bears and backup Caleb Hanie….us eking out a win v. the Texans, who were a playoff team. ….we should’ve blown out the Vikings, and kept them in it.
The reality is the roster is a culmination of picks that should have been there and have long since been traded, with a number of former players barely hanging on as subs or out of the league. The draft is the key and picks were traded, the coaching staff had little if any input – and you see the result.
Arizona is back primarily due to drafted players like O’Brien Schofield, Patrick Peterson, Calais Campbell and keeping their coaching staff (Ken Whisenhunt, who we could’ve had, if Davis let him pick his staff) – top notch assistants like Bones Fassel left due to the uncertainty of coaching, the ST struggle YET AGAIN.
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
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Well said Sam. No, I don’t think Allen is here to get a lower level (college) gig. I think Allen and McKenzie are starting to realize this roster is pretty sparse.
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The difference between the Pitt Game and the Denver game was not Dmac. He had ONE good run.
Seems to me it was the playcalling, it was almost like another guy was calling the plays in Pitt. Saunders?
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
Seeing into the future:
2012: disaster
2013: improvement
2014: playoffs
2015: Roger Goodell hands the Lombardi Trophy to Mark Davis
Book it.
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If I could be gauranteed this, I would go to every game this year in full Raider gear with a big ass smile on my face happy as a sissy in boystown. You’d think I was the biggest retard in creation.
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
A weak 8-8 team (only real win coming against a reeling Chargers team and Palmer playing in front of La Jolla – his backyard. – us barely being able to beat the Bears and backup Caleb Hanie….us eking out a win v. the Texans, who were a playoff team. ….we should’ve blown out the Vikings, and kept them in it.
The reality is the roster is a culmination of picks that should have been there and have long since been traded, with a number of former players barely hanging on as subs or out of the league. The draft is the key and picks were traded, the coaching staff had little if any input – and you see the result.
Arizona is back primarily due to drafted players like O’Brien Schofield, Patrick Peterson, Calais Campbell and keeping their coaching staff (Ken Whisenhunt, who we could’ve had, if Davis let him pick his staff) – top notch assistants like Bones Fassel left due to the uncertainty of coaching, the ST struggle YET AGAIN.
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
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Well said Sam. No, I don’t think Allen is here to get a lower level (college) gig. I think Allen and McKenzie are starting to realize this roster is pretty sparse.
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And “THEY” are responsible for the sparse components…
COMPLETELY!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
McFadden, Palmer, McFadden, Palmer blah blah blah
IT’S THE O-LINE AND KNAPP STUPID!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The difference between the Pitt Game and the Denver game was not Dmac. He had ONE good run.
Seems to me it was the playcalling, it was almost like another guy was calling the plays in Pitt. Saunders?
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Nope….it was Palmer
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Meanwhile, the Broncos netted first downs on 10 of 16 such plays.
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That shouldn’t happen at the high school level.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Blah Blah Blah just fix it!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
“I don’t know,” Allen said. “We’ll look at that. We still have some time before we have to play Atlanta. That will be something we look at. I don’t know if that’s in our plans right now.”
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Translation….that dude can’t pass, so STFU about it already!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The difference between the Pitt Game and the Denver game was not Dmac. He had ONE good run.
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That’s the point. If they are keying him and he responds, that it going to open up the passing game. Which is what happened. 31 points later…..
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
8 losses in a row and I would be dancing down the ailes.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I think it safe to day the Steelers aren’t going to have a great year either.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Any teams out there need a overpaid veteran DE or DT? Richard Seymour might help some team that is close…get something for him if you can Reggie. Probably pretty hard to trade that contract though….
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
The Steelers had two of their best defenders out, and their o-line is a shambles. That is why the Raiders won.
Just keeping it real. Had Troy Palamallallueeellu played we would be 0-4 right now.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Any teams out there need a overpaid veteran DE or DT? Richard Seymour might help some team that is close…get something for him if you can Reggie. Probably pretty hard to trade that contract though….
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And then who are you going to put in there? Bilukidi?
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
Seeing into the future:
2012: disaster
2013: improvement
2014: playoffs
2015: Roger Goodell hands the Lombardi Trophy to Mark Davis
Book it.
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If I could be gauranteed this, I would go to every game this year in full Raider gear with a big ass smile on my face happy as a sissy in boystown. You’d think I was the biggest retard in creation.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You are the biggest retard in creation, worshiper; you are a dummy too.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I hate it when Raiders staff lies directly to our faces, as DA just did in Corky’s post.
CP is an idiot and will do anything to collect his $12M.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
16.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Any teams out there need a overpaid veteran DE or DT? Richard Seymour might help some team that is close…get something for him if you can Reggie. Probably pretty hard to trade that contract though….
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And then who are you going to put in there? Bilukidi?
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Holding onto aging vets with horrific contracts who are no longer very productive on a team that is going nowhere fast is a bad strategy. Who replaces him doesn’t really matter. It is clear from the comments the coach and the player do not see things the same way anyhow, so it is not like he is, or has been, some great team leader that will teach the young kids up.
Cut our losses and get something for him, and some cap relief to boot.
And let him finish his career out on a decent team.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Im a Bra Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Cook just broke the Texans back “bras”!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Allen-I-dont-laugh-at-getting-beat-like-?blockID=783455&feedID=2801
DA explains that his laughing with Fox after the loss was in response to Fox asking if anyone had gotten hurt. DA says he was more ironically laughing. I guess I believe him, but it still looked terrible.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Allen-I-dont-laugh-at-getting-beat-like-?blockID=783455&feedID=2801
DA explains that his laughing with Fox after the loss was in response to Fox asking if anyone had gotten hurt. DA says he was more ironically laughing. I guess I believe him, but it still looked terrible.
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The answer would be “Not as much as your face is hurting me!”
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
16.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Any teams out there need a overpaid veteran DE or DT? Richard Seymour might help some team that is close…get something for him if you can Reggie. Probably pretty hard to trade that contract though….
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And then who are you going to put in there? Bilukidi?
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Holding onto aging vets with horrific contracts who are no longer very productive on a team that is going nowhere fast is a bad strategy. Who replaces him doesn’t really matter.
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I think it would matter a lot who we put in there. Considering we don’t have anyone to put in there. Unless a guy who played at Georgia State Teachers College is your idea of filling a space.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
go a’s
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Holding onto aging vets with horrific contracts who are no longer very productive on a team that is going nowhere fast is a bad strategy. Who replaces him doesn’t really matter.
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It’s been THE strategy the last 20+ yrs.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
23.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
16.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Any teams out there need a overpaid veteran DE or DT? Richard Seymour might help some team that is close…get something for him if you can Reggie. Probably pretty hard to trade that contract though….
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And then who are you going to put in there? Bilukidi?
+++++++++++++
Holding onto aging vets with horrific contracts who are no longer very productive on a team that is going nowhere fast is a bad strategy. Who replaces him doesn’t really matter.
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I think it would matter a lot who we put in there. Considering we don’t have anyone to put in there. Unless a guy who played at Georgia State Teachers College is your idea of filling a space.
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Are we 3-1? Nope, we are soon to be 1-4, this season is OVER. Don’t you get it? Teams do not recover from something like that unless they have HOF QBs. I like Palmer and all but…..
You can find DTs anywhere who can lead the defense to nearly last place as Seymour has.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Holding onto aging vets with horrific contracts who are no longer very productive on a team that is going nowhere fast is a bad strategy. Who replaces him doesn’t really matter.
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It’s been THE strategy the last 20+ yrs.
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touche
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Seymour Tard Bush, have you finally gotten off R Seymour’s nutsack like I told you 2 years ago?
Good for you lil buddy!!! Your slow but for a handicapped you do ok!
#shortbus
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
LAAAAAAAAAKERS!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
tj, there’s not much dispute. Although KK & Peemour Bush are giving you a run for the money.
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Priesttj12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
You’d think I was the biggest retard in creation.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
A’s dodge another bullet
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Palmer: We’re frustrated that we are where we are because of the way we’ve executed.
Reminds me of John McKay’ best quote: In response to a question about his team’s execution – “I’m all in favour of it.”
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
This place is funny. The ballgame was in the third inning and people were already whining about the game being over just like at Raiders games
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
JAMISTA CLOWN!!!! If there was such thing as a negative IQ this guy would have it!! Jamista, what LOSER are you backing now? Your Cleveland Browns are winless, Romney is circling the drain, Richard Seymour had a solid game, and Janikowsky is a Pro Bowler. Wrong on every count. As usual.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Home RUN!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Are we 3-1? Nope, we are soon to be 1-4, this season is OVER. Don’t you get it? Teams do not recover from something like that unless they have HOF QBs. I like Palmer and all but…..
You can find DTs anywhere who can lead the defense to nearly last place as Seymour has.
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That’s loser talk.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
This place is funny. The ballgame was in the third inning and people were already whining about the game being over just like at Raiders games
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Or the season being over in Week four.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
This place is funny. The ballgame was in the third inning and people were already whining about the game being over just like at Raiders games
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Or the season being over in Week four.
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Tell THAT, to the Oakland A’s.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Are we 3-1? Nope, we are soon to be 1-4, this season is OVER. Don’t you get it? Teams do not recover from something like that unless they have HOF QBs. I like Palmer and all but…..
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So your saying Phillip Rivers is a Hall of Famer because we always come back from 1-4 or 1-3 down and win the division ! Might as well put Lynart in lol
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
The LAME-GERS are falling apart at the seams.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Rangers are just melting down. Nice to see an opposing team do that….
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
36.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Are we 3-1? Nope, we are soon to be 1-4, this season is OVER. Don’t you get it? Teams do not recover from something like that unless they have HOF QBs. I like Palmer and all but…..
You can find DTs anywhere who can lead the defense to nearly last place as Seymour has.
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That’s loser talk.
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That is reality.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
A’s dodge another bullet
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Bullchit’…..The A’s are the bullet!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I just don’t know how any Raider fan can take losing in stride…………
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
A’s dodge another bullet
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Bullchit’…..The A’s are the bullet!
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And the Ranger’s are JFK’s dome!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Word.
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Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
A’s dodge another bullet
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Bullchit’…..The A’s are the bullet!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
There must be a “obviously” virus in Alameda. DHBs recovery, paying attention to the A’s, Knapps playcalling, Slowlando’s lazyiness… a virus I tell ya.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
The same way you have been sweeping the barbershop and being a (Dem) sheep. The same way you put your stamp of approval on JaMeatloaf, Hussein, and Reggie the Gut.
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KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I just don’t know how any Raider fan can take losing in stride…………
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Things are really bad right now and these numbskulls won’t make a move to fix it. We have the wrong crew in here and they are royally f’king things up.
This was SUPPOSE to be a playoff year. Instead it looks akin to 2006.
They will try to twist the facts and make excuses but don’t let ‘em. Herm Edwards did that same BS to stay in power in KC. They’ll try to twist this into a “rebuilding process”. Thats complete BS!
And trust me, you don’t want the rebuilding process they are looking at. That is a 3-4 yr ordeal easily because they are trying something that the majority of the roster doesn’t fit. So its a MAJOR overhaul. Not a player here or there. Its DMC, Palmer, Bush(already gone), the whole Oline (some already gone), possibly Moore or DHB, etc. And we don’t even know if it would work.
This new squad would be completely un-Raider like. More like the Jags, Browns or some other team that plays dink-n-dunk ball. Horrible.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
JLofty doesn’t need the bye week to complete his evaluation of the 2012 Oakland Raiders thus far…
They suck. On all fronts thus far, they are terrible.
Coaching, offense, defense and special teams they have been way below par.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
What did Joe Biden say stupid today? Can he top yesterdays gaffe?
“The middle class has been buried the last 4 years”
-Smokin Joe
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
I wish I was at the Coli right now partying my brethren from Oakland!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
BASES ARE JUICED!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Here’s how you take loosing in stride:
Raiders loose, tomorrow the sun will come up, laugh at what the politicians say, cry at what they do. In stride!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Allen-I-dont-laugh-at-getting-beat-like-?blockID=783455&feedID=2801
DA explains that his laughing with Fox after the loss was in response to Fox asking if anyone had gotten hurt. DA says he was more ironically laughing. I guess I believe him, but it still looked terrible.
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It looked like a rookie coach getting schooled by his mentor and being happy about it.
Thank you master, can I have another.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
MB the Republican party gutted the nation’s treasury thanks to people like you giving them a stamp of approval. Right wing Americans are the biggest kool aid drinkers on earth. The planet.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I just don’t know how any Raider fan can take losing in stride…………
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Nobody should… but many do.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Prez is taking every swing state, as he did in ‘08.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
MB the Republican party gutted the nation’s treasury thanks to people like you giving them a stamp of approval. Right wing Americans are the biggest kool aid drinkers on earth. The planet.
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Bigger than Raider Fans? nooooo!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
We got attacked on the anniversary of 911 & what did the muslim loving Hussein do about it?
Went to Vegas for a fundraiser and blamed the attack on a youtube clip nobody ever saw.
mope & change
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
The entire A’s squad watched that Moneyball movie and took it to heart….
No one in MLB wants to face this team….
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
What makes the so infuriating is it was completely unnecessary! Just fix the damned defense! The offense was ALREADY good! Now we have a clusterfuk on both sides of the ball.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouoaqZrCaaQ
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
for brien ^^^
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I just don’t know how any Raider fan can take losing in stride…………
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KK,
What actually happens to you when The Raiders lose as opposed to winning?? How does it change your day to day??
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
13-3 is still on the table
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
F’”k my online stream cut out with bases loaded…
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
11 unanswered runs!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
We got attacked on the anniversary of 911 & what did the muslim loving Hussein do about it?
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Actually, when the Marine barracks in Lebanon was attacked the conservative of conservatives, Ron Reagan set the whole Muslim world afire with his decisions. He did what every conservative always does in a crisis: he retreated.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Did we just unload them?
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
A’s unbelievable, every talking head on the tee vee this morning was crowing about how “nobody can sweep the Texans”.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
It’s like when my DVR stopped taping right when Jano ran out on the field for the gw kick against the Steeljobs…
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Wolfman and angry bird make a lovely couple
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Well, guess we get a MNF game double-header against JAX in O.co ……
If OAK pulls off its typical W against a team they have no business winnning (ATLanta)then come home to JAX with likley Curry back on Defense… chance to start 3-3 with some steam rolling.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Balfour is going to be JUICED!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Tex-Ass ran into a buzz saw.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
2 to go…
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
At least the A’s are good this year.
About to win the division.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
13-3 is still on the table
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All we have to do is get by Atlanta. Its cakewalk after that
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Hey everybody! Good news! Klas got off on technicality!!! Still have to do some community service though. Best thing about legal troubles is no have to watch Denver game. Klas is rocking like Swede again!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I just don’t know how any Raider fan can take losing in stride…………
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You freaking dummy. “Taking it in stride”? What would you have “Raider fans” do? Pull an occupy protest outside Harbourside?
Go back to sweeping the barbershop floor fool.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
KK,
What actually happens to you when The Raiders lose as opposed to winning?? How does it change your day to day??
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When the Raiders lose, I don’t watch any more football that week. It’s depressing, Sunday fkd……….what else.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Get that corvette started boys Garbage Pail Kids ready to riot……
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Dick Seymour wants to have fun, so he gets himself excused to go out and party it out.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Congrats to those A’s. WOW
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
KK,
What actually happens to you when The Raiders lose as opposed to winning?? How does it change your day to day??
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When the Raiders lose, I don’t watch any more football that week. It’s depressing, Sunday fkd……….what else.
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Klas used to be that way. Fantasy Football makes all games interesting now.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Way to go Amazing Oakland A’s-11 more wins,baby!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
So… I heard there´s a debate tonight, anybody know anything bout that?
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
If only the Raiders could follow the A’s and see what the word heart means.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Gregg Knapp + Jeff Gillooly = Better days
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
So… I heard there´s a debate tonight, anybody know anything bout that?
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Yeah, it’s the current and next President of the United States debating an empty chair.
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Kate Longworth can def work @ Hooters.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
1 clown in a suit and 1 successful business man.
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Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
So… I heard there´s a debate tonight, anybody know anything bout that?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Kate Longworth can def work @ Hooters.
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I bet you don’t have any women in your life.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Kate Longworth can def work @ Hooters.
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I bet you don’t have any women in your life.
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It’s true. Even his blow up doll walked out on him.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I bet you I do. I also bet your wife left you that’s why you are a miserable 60yr old blog tr0ll.
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KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Kate Longworth can def work @ Hooters.
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I bet you don’t have any women in your life.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I didn’t notice a valve stem on your mum.
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
It’s true. Even his blow up doll walked out on him.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I bet you I do. I also bet your wife left you
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We’re leaving for Swiss Sunday, will miss the Atl game.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I didn’t notice a valve stem on your mum.
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If you have your mouth on someone’s valve stem, it’s probably not a female Jamista. I didn’t know you swung that way! LMAO.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
KK Munster, you wish your bowl cut wife white that left you was half as hot as Longworth. I understand old tr0ll….I feel your pain pops!
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KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Kate Longworth can def work @ Hooters.
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I bet you don’t have any women in your life.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Really I’m leaving for Rio.
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KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
We’re leaving for Swiss Sunday, will miss the Atl game.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
The BrownStains Troll, Skidmarks up the front, down the back.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
#91, that’s hilarious!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Really I’m leaving for Rio.
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Lot’s of trash down there for you to sift thru. Try the Rio slums. They will remind you of home.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Sorry but there is nothing sweeter than punishing the rangers, and taking the division while sweeping them off the field!!!!!!
We were left for dead and people said we wouldnt even make the wild crad, there is no way we were supposed to catch the rangers.
this is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Celebration in tha town tonight.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
KK why weren’t you at the ballpark supporting the A’s Mr community man ? It wasn’t like you were selling a house or anything. EBT wont work on sporting events huh? Maybe you can get a 0 bama phone like this woman?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Really I’m leaving for Rio.
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Rio Vista?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Socialist Country what do you expect? Those windmills aren’t kick starting their economy are they?
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Lot’s of trash down there for you to sift thru. Try the Rio slums. They will remind you of home.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Congrats to the OAKLAND A’s they did it!! Nobody believed in them. I almost have a tear in my eye.
That is your field A’s. The Raiders have alot to learn and can start with the A’s. Its about playing as a team. Raiders have to get rid of Alot of players. The I players.
Raiders have been acting like some Byytch Nuggaz.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
This is just pitiful but this is where we are headed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJA6hn0Pnwo
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
CINDERFELLA JUST TOOK HIS GREEN AND GOLD SLIPPER AND KICKED THE RANGERS SQUARE IN THE NUTZ!!!!!!
THERE IS NOT A TEAM IN BASEBALL THAT WE CANT BEAT IN A SERIES, WE HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF TAKING IT ALL THAT WE HAVE HAD SINCE THE GIBSON AND CINCI DEBACLES
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
There is nothing like PLAYOFF Like atomospher in that Oakland Stadium.
SOmething the RAiders havent given its fans in along time.
A’s are the most dangerous team in baseball right now. Get to the world series baby
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour talked Monday about the need for players to have fun. He said players tend to take losses too hard and lose sight of the fun aspect of the game.
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Now I get it. I was wondering why Belichik was willing to part with Seymour when he still had some gas left in the tank…it’s the above attitude.
That FUN talk there is NOT how Belichik views things. Every interview, story written or whatever on Belichik speaks to a guy who is single minded in his purpose of WINNING. Fun is during the offseason…WINNING is for the regular season…and post season in their case.
I finally get it. Even Allen disagrees with Seymour.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
http://gma.yahoo.com/bleach-balloons-launched-students-color-university-texas-143018192–abc-news-topstories.html
Hey Kell thought you might want to read this. Sickening
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
KK why weren’t you at the ballpark supporting the A’s Mr community man ?
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Why don’t you have your trailer cleaned?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Romney a successful businessman. That’s laughable. His dad was rich. And neither of them invented anything. Just a couple of stock traders capitalizing on the work of others. Doesn’t sit well with Americans right now. That’s why he’s behind in every swing state.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
STRICTLY TOWN BIZNISS!!!!!! KISS MY GREEN AND GOLD AZZ!!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Kell,
haha!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
D.A big dick dont seem to see the game the same way, trouble in paradise already?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
MR, what happened to the middle east liking us because 0 bama is Pres? Tell that to the dead ambassador and his family. You dumb POS.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
This is just pitiful but this is where we are headed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJA6hn0Pnwo
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You are right about that. The pitiful part is she is calmer and has better vocabulary and diction skills than you.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I defy anyone to share a clip, voice or otherwise, or anything written by a credentialed media person that shows Belichik talking about how FUN is an important ingrediant to a successful franchise.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
This is where we’re heading if Republicans take back the white house, MB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I imagine it will get pretty trolly in here during the bye week. Glad I’ll be gone.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Melvin did a fantastic job for the A’s.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Is it seriously true Seymour was seen in Vegas with Jamarcus. Can’t be
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Fosse just got rained on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Doing the Bernie in my living room.Wife says thats what I look like when I’m drunk.LMFAO-GO PHUCKING A’s
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
One less troll
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
BrownStains, I doubt you could even point to the Middle East on a map. You’re sooooooo ignorant.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
For anyone who wants to know, the A’s have catholic mass in the conference room at 930 am on Sundays.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Is it seriously true Seymour was seen in Vegas with Jamarcus. Can’t be
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It was later found out it was Ted Washington who looks similar to Jamarcus
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Hussein might very well get off script without his teleprompter and say we have 57 states again or if you have a business you didn’t build that. How did such a moron get elected?
#McCain
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Are you kidding KK even tr0lls on his “alleged” anniversary.
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Realtruraider Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
One less troll
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
If you want to send a message to the team, kick MCslow no hustle and Dick to the curb.
Then look to see who is butt hurt in the locker room and kick them to the curb as well.
Step 1
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
haven’t been this bad on offense since Jamarcus
havent’ been this bad on D since before Al
haven’t been this bad on special teams since as long as i can remember
can’t just say we don’t have the personell, becuause our O and ST has enough good personell…
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Would be ok if we had someone to plug into MLB. We dont!
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RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
If you want to send a message to the team, kick MCslow no hustle and Dick to the curb.
Then look to see who is butt hurt in the locker room and kick them to the curb as well.
Step 1
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Romney a successful businessman. That’s laughable. His dad was rich. And neither of them invented anything. Just a couple of stock traders capitalizing on the work of others. Doesn’t sit well with Americans right now. That’s why he’s behind in every swing state.
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I agree that Romney comes from “priviledge” and was bascially handed a good life and plenty of money, but that shouldn’t discount all those who come from wealthy families from getting credit for contributing to society in a great way.
I point to JFK as an example. His philandering exploits not withstanding.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@PGutierrezCSN: Seymour excused for personal reason” hanging out with JaMarcus in Vegas?” Wow!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Illinois at Wisconsin
NFL teams attending: Carolina Panthers, Chicago Bears, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins, New York Giants, Oakland Raiders, Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Prospects to watch: Wisconsin: WR *Jared Abbrederis, RB Montee Ball, LB *Chris Borland, CB Marcus Cromartie, C *Travis Frederick, DE *David Gilbert, QB *Danny O’Brien, TE *Jacob Pedersen, CB Devin Smith, LB Mike Taylor, OT Ricky Wagner, RB *James White; Illinois: ILB *Jonathan Brown, DE/OLB Michael Buchanan, CB Terry Hawthorne, WR *Ryan Lankford, C Graham Pocic, QB *Nathan Scheelhaase, DT *Akeem Spence, OG Hugh Thornton, SS Ashante Williams.
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Michigan at Purdue
NFL teams attending: Chicago Bears, Cleveland Browns and Oakland Raiders.
Prospects to watch: Purdue: CB *Ricardo Allen, LB Dwayne Beckford, RB Ralph Bolden, OG Peters Drey, WR Antavian Edison, DT *Bruce Gaston, CB Josh Johnson, QB Robert Marve, C Rick Schmeig, DT Kawann Short, QB Caleb TerBush; Michigan: DT William Campbell, ILB Kenny Demens, CB J.T. Floyd, FS *Thomas Gordon, SS Jordan Kovacs, OT *Tyler Lewan, OG Patrick Omameh, WR Denard Robinson, DE Craig Roh, WR Roy Roundtree, RB *Fitzgerald Toussaint.
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Washington State at Oregon State
NFL teams attending: New Orleans Saints, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Prospects to watch: Oregon State: OL *Josh Andrews, WR Jordan Bishop, OT Colin Kelly, QB *Sean Mannion, OT *Michael Phillpp, CB Jordan Poyer, TE Colby Prince, CB Rashaad Reynolds, LB Feti Unga, WR Markus Wheaton; Washington State: SS *Deone Bucannon, OT *John Fullington, CB *Damante Horton, TE Andrei Lintz, DE/OLB Travis Long, OT Dan Spitz, QB Jeff Tuel, WR *Marquess Wilson.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
We will beat the Falcons and then lose to the Jags on Monday night football, thats where this team is at, all fked up
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
D.a on pryor…..
i dont agree with not dressing pryor even if he isnt in the plans at the moment, but i do understand. Like some have said here just dressing pryor will give the opposing staff something else to consider during prep, it wouldnt hurt.
However from D.A stand point you dont dress pryor for one simple reason, this team isnt very good, so pryor not being dressed takes any clamoring for him to play out of the equation. there is no controversy or extra pressure on plamer and knapp to perform.
this will change if we continue to lose however, just remember the orton tebow scenario.
If tebow wasnt dressing fans would not have screamed his name during games. once he did get in for a few select plays and made things happen the flood gates opened and boom ,qb conundrum.
D.A wants to avoid this scenario at all cost, but he can only do it if the raiders are competitive. No one will ever scream that lienert needs to play, even if carson palmer didnt have any arms and bad crack habbit.
This is the safe and conservative route, but it cant last when you are 1-5 2-7 or the like.
Then the raiders would be forced to shut down known commodities and trot out all of their youth, because they would be protected under the umbrella of moving forward and evaluating youngsters, with no pressure to actually win.
As of now the staff are still clearly trying to squeeze out wins, but its like squeezing blood from a turnip.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Now I get it. I was wondering why Belichik was willing to part with Seymour when he still had some gas left in the tank…it’s the above attitude.
That FUN talk there is NOT how Belichik views things. Every interview, story written or whatever on Belichik speaks to a guy who is single minded in his purpose of WINNING. Fun is during the offseason…WINNING is for the regular season…and post season in their case.
I finally get it. Even Allen disagrees with Seymour.
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DJ Seymour has THREE SUPERBOWL rings. If Dennis Allen disagress I’ll take Seymour’s viewpoint over his. Seymour is just trying to get these guys to relax and play football maybe they are soo tight their not playing to their potential he’s out there with them he might just know better.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
If the Falcons win this weekend, the pressure of a perfect record will get to them, and we can capitilize on that.
What’s the odds we keep going without an INT?
Playoffs
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
D.a on pryor…..
i dont agree with not dressing pryor even if he isnt in the plans at the moment, but i do understand. Like some have said here just dressing pryor will give the opposing staff something else to consider during prep, it wouldnt hurt.
However from D.A stand point you dont dress pryor for one simple reason, this team isnt very good, so pryor not being dressed takes any clamoring for him to play out of the equation. there is no controversy or extra pressure on plamer and knapp to perform.
this will change if we continue to lose however, just remember the orton tebow scenario.
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Putting Pryor in before he is ready will ruin him. Doing that would be crazy.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Afterall it is a game, IMO if you’re having fun playing it, I think you’ll play better.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Would be ok if we had someone to plug into MLB. We dont!
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I hear what you’re saying, I’d still do it.
Mc Slow No Hustle sets a bad example.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
We will beat the Falcons
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i will never bet against my team but come on man, really?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
How does a MLB go thru games with one or two tackles. It boggles the mind. Maybe he’s hurt, maybe he’s in the wrong scheme, maybe he can’t play at this level, but McClain has got to go.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
D.a on pryor…..
i dont agree with not dressing pryor even if he isnt in the plans at the moment, but i do understand. Like some have said here just dressing pryor will give the opposing staff something else to consider during prep, it wouldnt hurt.
However from D.A stand point you dont dress pryor for one simple reason, this team isnt very good, so pryor not being dressed takes any clamoring for him to play out of the equation. there is no controversy or extra pressure on plamer and knapp to perform.
this will change if we continue to lose however, just remember the orton tebow scenario.
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Putting Pryor in before he is ready will ruin him. Doing that would be crazy.
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you will never know if he is or isnt “ready” until he actually plays.
can you give me a reason to keep running palmer out there if we are 2-7?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
How does a MLB go thru games with one or two tackles. It boggles the mind. Maybe he’s hurt, maybe he’s in the wrong scheme, maybe he can’t play at this level, but McClain has got to go.
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I’ve said this before… I was slow to come to this conclusion, I’m a patient guy, but I’ve seen enough of Slowlando.
He’s dead to Me. lol
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Johnny, rich people who haven’t invented anything, tell me, what do they really contribute to society, aside from charity and jobs, which the inventors they exploit could provide themselves if their ancestors had just thought of stealing the land and resources first? In terms of global history, the wealthy merely give us what was never theirs in the first place. And, again, I’m not speaking of inventors, and those who create things we can all use. I’m talking of the vultures, like Romney.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
here’s how we make the playoffs:
1. fire oline coach bring back wylie
2. sign Chris Johnson
3. promote chekwa from PS
4. sign Plaxico for 3rd down/redzone
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
DJ Seymour has THREE SUPERBOWL rings. If Dennis Allen disagress I’ll take Seymour’s viewpoint over his. Seymour is just trying to get these guys to relax and play football maybe they are soo tight their not playing to their potential he’s out there with them he might just know better.
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CMon TJ, Seymour has become the overpaid check collector.
Dude doesn’t practice, and leaves town.
Fuuuk That.
When’s the last time He has done anything to remotely justify his salary and treatment?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
can you give me a reason to keep running palmer out there if we are 2-7?
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If this team continues to get worse, which on another level would boggle the mind, then, hey if you can get Pryor ready, why not? See if he can provide a spark, see what you have in him. Right now, I have to go with the Dennis Allen mantra of trying to get better every single play, and every single practice and every single week. But so far, that has NOT happened.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
We will beat the Falcons
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i will never bet against my team but come on man, really?
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Did you not read the rest of my post? My point is if we beat the Falcons we would then more than likely lose to the Jags, which is now goin to be a Monday night game. Its just the feeling I get with this team, back to not winning back to back games
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I’ve said this before… I was slow to come to this conclusion, I’m a patient guy, but I’ve seen enough of Slowlando.
He’s dead to Me. lol
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The tape doesn’t lie Len.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
0bama’s got the ladies by 16%. That’s it, boys.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
you will never know if he is or isnt “ready” until he actually plays
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there is the threat of ruining a guys confidence if put out there too soon, it happens. Didn’t look ready to me, did he look ready to you?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
can you give me a reason to keep running palmer out there if we are 2-7?
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I doubt Allen will want to give up the season no matter the record, just like late in Denver game he kept Palmer in because he wants the players to know that we will compete until the end.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
can you give me a reason to keep running palmer out there if we are 2-7?
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If this team continues to get worse, which on another level would boggle the mind, then, hey if you can get Pryor ready, why not? See if he can provide a spark, see what you have in him. Right now, I have to go with the Dennis Allen mantra of trying to get better every single play, and every single practice and every single week. But so far, that has NOT happened.
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we agree, it is too early for pryor yet, at 2-7 then we switch gears into full evaluation mode and pryor gets the nod.
Right now D.A needs to continue playing the vets and trying to win
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
i’m telling you, the suddle move of rehiring wylie would be HUGE. went back and forth on Plaxico but it’s obvious we need to punch it in when in the redzone and convert on 3rd down and he’s been eating a whole lotta humble pie. gm needs to eat some humble pie and sign some more vet cb’s like CJ
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
can you give me a reason to keep running palmer out there if we are 2-7?
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I doubt Allen will want to give up the season no matter the record, just like late in Denver game he kept Palmer in because he wants the players to know that we will compete until the end.
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when your 4-5 games below .500 it is no longer about the coach giving up the season, the season at that point is lost.
At that point it is a long standing common practice to sit the vets and play the youngsters to get a jump on draft day. This happens in almost every sport especially football
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
BTW, Johnny,
The Kennedys were crooks, too. Not to say Jack, Robert, Ted, Caroline, et al haven’t had good intentions (especially Robert), but they are products of greed and corruption, just like Romney. They’re just not as bad as Romney. Probably the fact that their family had emigrated here more recently. A warm spot in their hearts for the poor. The Romneys too far removed from their family’s roots in America too give a damn, or maybe the Romneys are descendants of British elite.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
you will never know if he is or isnt “ready” until he actually plays
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there is the threat of ruining a guys confidence if put out there too soon, it happens. Didn’t look ready to me, did he look ready to you?
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he did in in the detroit game, no worse than brandon weeden, or blain gabbert, or christian ponder (last year) or tim tebow any time he has been on the field.
4-5 games below .500 and you wont be able to sell that to the public
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The losers in here talking about Pyor are clueless.
Pryor would get emabrassed out there.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
One thing that you guys have to keep in mind, is this team could go 2-7, catch fire and say go 6-1 to end the season. Even without the playoffs, that would be enough to build on for next year. That would be the focus of the team. To try to gain some momentum for next year. That was something hue jackson could not do.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The losers in here talking about Pyor are clueless.
Pryor would get emabrassed out there.
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Personally that would be what I would expect.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
At that point it is a long standing common practice to sit the vets and play the youngsters to get a jump on draft day. This happens in almost every sport especially football
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I don’t think it happeneds as much as you think, it depends on if you have a guy that you think is goin to be the future at QB, right now I have a feelin that they feel Palmer is the only QB on the roster that is in there future plans, alot of times teams that end with a bad record play with the same damn QB all year
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
he did in in the detroit game, no worse than brandon weeden, or blain gabbert, or christian ponder (last year) or tim tebow any time he has been on the field
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his arm strenth legs and work ethic tell me he has a chance, i just don’t wanna nip the bud before it’s mature
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Raiders’ record this year: 8-8. Standing by it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
you will not ruin pryor’s confidence. if the start of the pre season didnt do it, then it cant be done.
he improved with every snap, and rep, he would do the same when he gets his shot.
besides when a team is making thier draft strategy they can be concerned with fragile feelings, you either can play or you cant. you find that out on the field on sundays
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
can you give me a reason to keep running palmer out there if we are 2-7?
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He is the QB,he makes big bucks,and you don’t bench your best players no matter what the record.Plus,you don’t have anyone better.GO AMAZING A’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Ah, politics.
Two of my favorite quotations.
“If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
Mark Twain
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
Benjamin Franklin
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
so does plaxico help on 3rd and in the redzone?
or is he a cancer and takes away development time from the youngsters?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
If Carson Palmer is healthy, He will never, not be, the starter.
Wrong message to the team.
Can’t tell the roster you’ve quit.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
you will not ruin pryor’s confidence. if the start of the pre season didnt do it, then it cant be done.
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Oh it can easily be done. Especially if he is no longer playing against scrubs, but playing against bona fide NFL ones.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Congrats to the OAKLAND A’s they did it!! Nobody believed in them. I almost have a tear in my eye.
That is your field A’s. The Raiders have alot to learn and can start with the A’s. Its about playing as a team. Raiders have to get rid of Alot of players. The I players.
Raiders have been acting like some Byytch Nuggaz.
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What “I” players are on the team tard? McClain…..maybe?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
At that point it is a long standing common practice to sit the vets and play the youngsters to get a jump on draft day. This happens in almost every sport especially football
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I don’t think it happeneds as much as you think, it depends on if you have a guy that you think is goin to be the future at QB, right now I have a feelin that they feel Palmer is the only QB on the roster that is in there future plans, alot of times teams that end with a bad record play with the same damn QB all year
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i cant think off the top of my head of 1 single situation where there was a prospect on the bench that didnt get his shot to show what he could do when the incumbent was out of contention at the end of the year.
Think about it for a second. You have to know if you are drafting a qb, unless you are sold on palmer for the long term.
maybe we disagree on how palmer is viewed.
i think palmer is on a tryout and must play lights out and lead wins if wants to be here next year.
sounds like you are saying they are sold on palmer long term.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
We don’t need Plax, plus if the Jets passed on him for some unknown WR today says it all. Heck the Jets will probably end up signing the DB killa lil Miller before Plax
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Twocents Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Ah, politics.
Two of my favorite quotations.
“If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
Mark Twain
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
Benjamin Franklin
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No Kidding.
Even way back in the day, they knew what was up.
Just more blatant now.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
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Remember, that can be him throwing the ball away, or the receivers being in the wrong spot.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Also I love how people think we can just fire coaches midseason like it is going to help anything. Saunders is the only one where that might have a 10% chance of working. Face it guys we are screwed until next season.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
If Carson Palmer is healthy, He will never, not be, the starter.
Wrong message to the team.
Can’t tell the roster you’ve quit.
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pulling the plug on the incumbent at the end of the season when you are out of the race is not and has never been viewed as quitting.
it is simply prudent diligence, happens all of the time in the nfl
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Twocents Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Ah, politics.
Two of my favorite quotations.
“If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
Mark Twain
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
Benjamin Franklin
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No Kidding.
Even way back in the day, they knew what was up.
Just more blatant now.
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Amen….Preach On!
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
If Carson Palmer is healthy, He will never, not be, the starter.
Wrong message to the team.
Can’t tell the roster you’ve quit.
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pulling the plug on the incumbent at the end of the season when you are out of the race is not and has never been viewed as quitting.
it is simply prudent diligence, happens all of the time in the nfl
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OK, help me out with a recent example.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
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Remember, that can be him throwing the ball away, or the receivers being in the wrong spot.
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Thank you. I believe that is probably it. He has never been a guy with low comp %.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
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Remember, that can be him throwing the ball away, or the receivers being in the wrong spot.
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want an even worse stat?
in 110 nfl starts palmer has tossed a shockingly bad 118 picks!!!!!
palmer leads the nfl in picks returned for touchdowns since 2005
ouch
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Twocents Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Ah, politics.
Two of my favorite quotations.
“If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
Mark Twain
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
Benjamin Franklin
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No Kidding.
Even way back in the day, they knew what was up.
Just more blatant now.
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Amen….Preach On!
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Wonder if you three are Rural people?
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
If you don’t vote, don’t complain.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
What i heard–Coach Dennis Allen promised a thorough evaluation of his team over the next two weeks. That process will take him and his coaching staff from A to ZBS, Allen said.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
Seeing into the future:
2012: disaster
2013: improvement
2014: playoffs
2015: Roger Goodell hands the Lombardi Trophy to Mark Davis
Book it.
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If I could be gauranteed this, I would go to every game this year in full Raider gear with a big ass smile on my face happy as a sissy in boystown. You’d think I was the biggest retard in creation.
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I would Go to TJ and have what Barret had
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Kell, whenever they start getting owned, they start this “all politics is b.s.”, “I don’t vote anyway” stuff. Guess they’re done defending Romney and his philanthropy. lol.
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
If you don’t vote, don’t complain.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
No Kidding.
Even way back in the day, they knew what was up.
Just more blatant now.
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in cali it’s a forgone conclusion who wins the state, but the propositions every vote counts and there’s some serious one’s on the ballot:
-labeling genetically modified foods
-3rd strike being a violent crime
-ending the death penalty
-stopping unions from contributing funds to elections
-increasing sales tax and tax on the wealthiest to stop further cuts to education
done with the politics here, my bad
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
sounds like you are saying they are sold on palmer long term.
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Well yeah, I mean I don’t think they feel Pryor is anywhere close to being ready anytime this year, if anything the would probably throw in Lienart if we were losing because of Palmer (which is not the case) so at this point I think Palmer is the only QB on the roster thats in there future plans for the next season. Im sure Reggie will bring in some young QB through the draft or FA next year to sit behind Palmer as QB of the future. I wish Pryor would work out for us but he’s not Reggies guy and as we have seen Reggie wants his guys. Palmers not either but he is a vet and Reggie has shown he is more inclined to keep vets from the old regime
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
If you vote then you consent to being ruled by criminals.
Voters give politicians legitimacy.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Hey, guys, what happened to Romney’s philanthropy? He provides jobs, doesn’t he? What’s with all of the cynicism about politics now? lol.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Wonder if you three are Rural people?
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LOL!
Arrogance fits you well.
It’s a cheap suit, but it fits.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Twocents, if Romney wins, things will be better, right? Businesses will hire more people, wont’ they, because of lower taxes?
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
I vote, but it doesn’t do any good. The issues and candidates with the best ads always win.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
After Republicans fk up, Republican voters say theyre all the same bs.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
in cali it’s a forgone conclusion who wins the state, but the propositions every vote counts and there’s some serious one’s on the ballot:
-labeling genetically modified foods
-3rd strike being a violent crime
-ending the death penalty
-stopping unions from contributing funds to elections
-increasing sales tax and tax on the wealthiest to stop further cuts to education
done with the politics here, my bad
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Agree.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Twocents Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
If you vote then you consent to being ruled by criminals.
Voters give politicians legitimacy.
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then when marijuana stays illegal, and when the death penalty remains which is much more costly than life in prison draining our tax dollars and innocent men are killed and when the rich are given another tax break and when people with pre existing conditions are denied health coverage realize you’re partly to blame
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Anyone can be a pessimist and a cynic. Takes no effort. What’s hilarious is that some have delusions that it quantifies as intelligence. Yeah, you’re smarter than the people who designed the iPhone…cause you don’t vote.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Lol. Well just asking, yes or no?
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
If Carson Palmer is healthy, He will never, not be, the starter.
Wrong message to the team.
Can’t tell the roster you’ve quit.
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pulling the plug on the incumbent at the end of the season when you are out of the race is not and has never been viewed as quitting.
it is simply prudent diligence, happens all of the time in the nfl
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OK, help me out with a recent example.
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easy
culpepper & mckown vs jamayo
leftwich vs gerrad
odonell vs stewart
hasselbeck vs locker
cutler vs plummer
i could go on for days, it happens all of the time
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Sullivan, I’m not a Romney man. You and your ilk do not read, you merely spew political propaganda.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Not voting in and of itself does not equate to intelligence. Karl from Sling Blade didn’t vote, either.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Twocents you’re a rural guy right. Get your takes from rural am radio?
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
sounds like you are saying they are sold on palmer long term.
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Well yeah, I mean I don’t think they feel Pryor is anywhere close to being ready anytime this year, if anything the would probably throw in Lienart if we were losing because of Palmer (which is not the case) so at this point I think Palmer is the only QB on the roster thats in there future plans for the next season. Im sure Reggie will bring in some young QB through the draft or FA next year to sit behind Palmer as QB of the future. I wish Pryor would work out for us but he’s not Reggies guy and as we have seen Reggie wants his guys. Palmers not either but he is a vet and Reggie has shown he is more inclined to keep vets from the old regime
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I concede the point that pryor wasnt reggies guy, this is the only way i could see him failing to make it on to the field when we are 4-5-6 games below .500.
good take
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
twocents, you’re spewing propaganda, too. Modern day Republican propaganda. All of this destruction of government stuff, it’s modern day GOP propaganda. That’s been a staple of the party since 0bama won.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
twocents = modern day tea party Republican.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
in cali it’s a forgone conclusion who wins the state, but the propositions every vote counts and there’s some serious one’s on the ballot:
-labeling genetically modified foods
-3rd strike being a violent crime
-ending the death penalty
-stopping unions from contributing funds to elections
-increasing sales tax and tax on the wealthiest to stop further cuts to education
done with the politics here, my bad
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Agree.
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Also agree here. People, please throw all mailers directly into the recycling bin, turn off the political tv ads, READ the props, and make an intelligent decision. Don’t let the big pockets vote for you!
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
i’m saddened that ppl in oakland believe voting a waste of time, oaklands the home of a lot political change. you think if the rich had it there way they’d be more rich or more of there wealth would go towards education health care social security public works etc? we’d be slaves if we couldn’t change things. the vietman war might still be being fought. you really don’t want to know if you’re eating a fish engineered in a science lab?
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I remember driving from Dallas to Waco a few yrs agot in a rented car. Boy, the radio programming was interesting.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
OK, help me out with a recent example.
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easy
culpepper & mckown vs jamayo
leftwich vs gerrad
odonell vs stewart
hasselbeck vs locker
cutler vs plummer
i could go on for days, it happens all of the time
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So Palmer V Leinart
Or Palmer V TP equate?
Palmer has not played Himself out of his starting position, and he’s not 35 years old.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
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What do you expect with worst run game in league at 60 YPG.
Hagan is a starting WR.
No RT.
Terrible Off. Coord.
3rd and longs all day, while defense can;t stop a flea or get any field position.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Lol. Well just asking, yes or no?
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No.
So Rural is inferior to what?
Inner City?, The Suburbs?
Sounds like you might by stereotyping KK.
True?
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
What do you expect with worst run game in league at 60 YPG.
Hagan is a starting WR.
No RT.
Terrible Off. Coord.
3rd and longs all day, while defense can;t stop a flea or get any field position.
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That’s what it look’s like to Me.
I’d add that Pollack has a hand in this as well.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
“I don’t know what to say
I don’t know what to do
Everything seems the same
I might as well die”
-Henry Rollins
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
OK, help me out with a recent example.
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easy
culpepper & mckown vs jamayo
leftwich vs gerrad
odonell vs stewart
hasselbeck vs locker
cutler vs plummer
i could go on for days, it happens all of the time
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So Palmer V Leinart
Or Palmer V TP equate?
Palmer has not played Himself out of his starting position, and he’s not 35 years old.
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no not plamer vs lienart lienart does not need to be evaluated pryor does. leinart and plamer are known commodities.
palmer does not have to play his way out of a starting job, but by game 13-14 you can shut him down in the itrest of evaluating pryor and saving palmer wear and tear in meaningless games
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
The Raiders can save this season even despite all this crap they have watsed on the field.
Just incorporate some power blocking schemes with the ZBS slowly and see the change happen…
Allow the Brandian Ross, Andre Carter to see the field.
Get back Curry, DHB, …. late ron Bartell, Spencer, Barnes.
Team can finish strong if we can find a way to run the ball.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
PRYOR TALK IS STUPID AT THIS POINT …. Evaluated? You don’t think pre-season, camp, OTA’s and weekly practice and film studies they aren’t wathcing him?
He is 3rd string for a reason.
He is not a pocket passer AT ALL.
Can’t read a defense.
He is a playmaker, use him in situaions as an athelete?
I’m cool with that…but QB this team? Not a snowballs chance in hell this year.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Richard Seymour’s “hustle plays” need to be happening in the offensive backfield rather than the defensive backfield.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
the labeling for GMO food is the biggest issue in my view.
There are so many chemicals which alter humans genetics, and molecular chemistry it is criminal what these evil so called food scientist are doing.
The fda is a criminal syndicate hell bent on making a dollar and destroying humanity, no good devils.
not too mention the ethical question. You think you are a vegetarian but your tomatoe has been spliced with a pig gene, creating a mutant freak!!
eating freak food will turn you into a freak as well
commercial farming the fda are committing nutricide
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
PRYOR TALK IS STUPID AT THIS POINT …. Evaluated? You don’t think pre-season, camp, OTA’s and weekly practice and film studies they aren’t wathcing him?
He is 3rd string for a reason.
He is not a pocket passer AT ALL.
Can’t read a defense.
He is a playmaker, use him in situaions as an athelete?
I’m cool with that…but QB this team? Not a snowballs chance in hell this year.
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again i know the thought of palmer sitting infuriates you, but game 12 and on it will be time to evalute the youngsters at all positions, that is how the nfl works.
has nothing to do with what fans like us think think
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
the labeling for GMO food is the biggest issue in my view.
There are so many chemicals which alter humans genetics, and molecular chemistry it is criminal what these evil so called food scientist are doing.
The fda is a criminal syndicate hell bent on making a dollar and destroying humanity, no good devils.
not too mention the ethical question. You think you are a vegetarian but your tomatoe has been spliced with a pig gene, creating a mutant freak!!
eating freak food will turn you into a freak as well
commercial farming the fda are committing nutricide
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This may be a first Mistic but I agree COMPLETELY.
Problem is Monsanto and its cronies have a ton of cash at their disposal and they will stop at nothing to kill it. Just watch the lies and misinformation fly. I hope California is smart enough to see through their trash.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
All I know is if Reggie and his crew screw over Terrelle Pryor and give him no chance to develope then get rid of him. They will lose me as a Raider fan until Reggie is FIRED. No one can tell me this kid can’t play and isn’t worth developing. They can use him the same way the Forty Niners use Kaepernick. No harm in it at all. The only reason someone would’t want to see that is they’re scared that Pryor would outshine Palmer.
In that case why wouldn’t that in and of itself make you want to see Pryor even more. Pryor is one of the most competitive players I’ve ever seen and he has enormous upside. To abuse that because Al Davis drafted him would piss me off to the point I would DROP the Raiders no longer a fan of the team…………..period
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
PRYOR TALK IS STUPID AT THIS POINT …. Evaluated? You don’t think pre-season, camp, OTA’s and weekly practice and film studies they aren’t wathcing him?
He is 3rd string for a reason.
He is not a pocket passer AT ALL.
Can’t read a defense.
He is a playmaker, use him in situaions as an athelete?
I’m cool with that…but QB this team? Not a snowballs chance in hell this year.
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again i know the thought of palmer sitting infuriates you, but game 12 and on it will be time to evalute the youngsters at all positions, that is how the nfl works.
has nothing to do with what fans like us think think
———- Not our NFL in OAKland, if Knapp can BS his way around the ZBS … how would you even consider our organization evauating talent later in season? That premature anyways, if your a fan you realize the team can turn this around.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Maybe Knapp should start calling High School plays…
Could be good for 5-6 wins before DC’s remember how to defend that sht.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
The Republican Party’s Fatal Attraction To Rural America
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2012/03/14/the-gops-fatal-attraction-to-rural-america/
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It not a matter of stereotyping. Or a right/wrong in a moral sense.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I sure hope Reggie doesn’t write off Pryor because he isn’t ‘his guy’ as some of you are saying. I don’t think that’s the mark of a good GM. If Pryor has talent (he does), you make it work.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
its was 10-6 at halftime in Denver …. 27 to 0 to follow.
The team needs to get healthy DHb and Moore healthy in ATL on turf is good start to help Offense.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
BTW T Pryor’s biggest fan is one Carson Palmer who touts him as an incredible talent. yet you have people on here talking about what the kid can’t do instead of what he can do. I’ve seen this kid in bigtime games just outplay supposedly superior talents win bigtime games and compete like a madman.
I predicted he would take Raider fans by storm during the preseason which he did. I’m predicting now if given the chance this kid would take this team where they want to go. It may not happen immediately but it wouldn’t take very long………..period
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
PRYOR TALK IS STUPID AT THIS POINT …. Evaluated? You don’t think pre-season, camp, OTA’s and weekly practice and film studies they aren’t wathcing him?
He is 3rd string for a reason.
He is not a pocket passer AT ALL.
Can’t read a defense.
He is a playmaker, use him in situaions as an athelete?
I’m cool with that…but QB this team? Not a snowballs chance in hell this year.
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NONSENSE. Pryor talk is not stupid. Raiders look like they are about to go 4-12. CP is owed $13 million next year. He will be gone. Might as well see what TP can do.
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
PRYOR TALK IS STUPID AT THIS POINT …. Evaluated? You don’t think pre-season, camp, OTA’s and weekly practice and film studies they aren’t wathcing him?
He is 3rd string for a reason.
He is not a pocket passer AT ALL.
Can’t read a defense.
He is a playmaker, use him in situaions as an athelete?
I’m cool with that…but QB this team? Not a snowballs chance in hell this year.
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again i know the thought of palmer sitting infuriates you, but game 12 and on it will be time to evalute the youngsters at all positions, that is how the nfl works.
has nothing to do with what fans like us think think
———- Not our NFL in OAKland, if Knapp can BS his way around the ZBS … how would you even consider our organization evauating talent later in season? That premature anyways, if your a fan you realize the team can turn this around.
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you must have missed it but i said after the season is beyond saving, then you roll out the youngsters
again common practice in every nfl city
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidO
They scared to see what that kid can do, because they know what HE WILL DO…
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I sure hope Reggie doesn’t write off Pryor because he isn’t ‘his guy’ as some of you are saying. I don’t think that’s the mark of a good GM. If Pryor has talent (he does), you make it work.
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thats twice in one day….excuse me while i build my arc this world is ending
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Priest, does Palmer have any potential whatsoever?
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Pryor Sucks. He is an athlete, not a QB.
Besides the Raiders can/will turn this season around.
Tune-in. I will be there.
Look at what the A’s did.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaidO
They scared to see what that kid can do, because they know what HE WILL DO…
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i have to side with you guys on this, and priest i owe you some credit.
i was somewhat luke warm on pryor, i thought he didnt show enough improvement as a college player, and was bit of knuckle head.
You said that tressel failed to polish the kid. In the preseason he looked light years better than at any point in college as a passer. The suspension and supplemental draft status clearly has humbled the kid and he a very hard worker. whats not to love?
he made reads moved the defense with his eyes and threw mainly to guys that were in single coverage, i was very impressed.
i think you are right and he only needs time and good coaching the talent is beyond question.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Lol, Mistic. #241
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I thought they were rolling out the youngsters. I just think it was stupid to risk Palmer getting hurt in a no win situation. They could have called running plays with RB Goodson and Taiwan Jones to get the Off Line more cohesive not good coaching
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Pryor could be the future but he has to improve his pocket passing and the only way to improve your technique is to play and practice until the technique is second nature
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
peace nation today belongs to my beloved green and gold
LIFE IS SWEET
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Weren’t we 1-3 in 2010, facing a team we hadn’t beat in seemingly ten years?
What is all this talk about being 2-7 and when to put in Pryor?
We manage to beat the Falcons, the next 4 games we meet be favorites in all of them.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
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Remember, that can be him throwing the ball away, or the receivers being in the wrong spot.
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want an even worse stat?
in 110 nfl starts palmer has tossed a shockingly bad 118 picks!!!!!
palmer leads the nfl in picks returned for touchdowns since 2005
ouch
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Obviously im trying to be fair or I wouldn’t have posted that “disturbing” stat on Palmer, but I think it also bears mentioning that Brett Favre in 298 games as a starter threw 336 int’s.
I don’t think anyone would call future hall of famer Brett Favre “shockingly bad”.
Favre has the wins though…he also has had much better teams to play with…and receivers.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
According to Profootballtalk DA had a reason as to why he was smiling and having a great time after getting beat down in Denver.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/03/dennis-allen-explains-why-he-was-smiling-after-raiders-lost/
-Instead, Allen says, his laughter was a bit of gallows humor after Fox asked him if the Raiders made it through the game without any serious injuries. Allen says the Raiders are dealing with so many injury problems at so many positions that he found it funny to be asked if they were healthy.
“The question that he asked me was, ‘Did you make it out healthy?’ And with the health of our corners, with the health of our tackles, with the health of our wide receivers, I couldn’t help but get a chuckle out of it,” Allen said, via CSNBayArea.com.
Am I the only one who does not understand what the joke was? That was a lame excuse. This guy is Josh McDaniels 2.0. When will the Raiders learn to stop bring over Denver/Dan Reeves disciples?
Shanarat, Lame Kiffin and and now Dennis McDaniels. At least I understand why Fox and Elway were laughing so hard while they were dialing up blitz’s in the fourth quarter. This guy bleeds Orange and Blue. Even Kiffin got pissed when Denver stompted him on Monday night. Can we hurry up and get rid of this guy?
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Thanks Mistic1, this staff puzzles me it’s as though they are hiding the talent instead of exploiting it. Taiwan Jones has yet to get a single carry. Chekwa is on the PS they got rid of DVD before he could learn the system. And TP is like an afterthought. The Oline is hurting and they get rid of all the draft picks form the previous years. It’s as if they’re just interested in making a point instead of developing talent and winning.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Two great things happened today,..the A`s won,..are the talk of the baseball world,..and I for one love the dirt infield during football games, the Raiders dont deserve any kind of great playing environment. I hope the dirt stays on the whole year. And two, the pic of DA smiling and laughing after being sodomized by a mule has made national news,…great link on PFT…so now hes on notice, only took him 4 games to be the laughng stock, he and Big Dummy Reggie,…Big Dummy Reggie has set his people back decades who wanted to be in sports management,..its sad…and by his people I of course mean illiterate dummies with eating disorders.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Hi TJ, my boy from Mountain View,…how ya been ese?…you think the staff should start Jones and Pryor?…I agree…I mean they both suck, but so do the losers who are playing,…hey TJ,..got a row 1 banner idea?…Im picking the best banner to display in my row 1 location, the winner gets a pair of tix, my row 5 pair,..go for it!…so far Plunketheads winning with,… JUST SELL, BABY…contest ends the wednesday before the Jax game.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
THE Raiders need to take some hints from Billy Beane. You basically are gonna have to deconstruct this roster.. and get rid of most the defense this offseason. As long as u have guys like huff, Ro, Kelly you are gonna suck.
Its time to get new players and BUILD A TEAM .. even if it takes a few yrs so be it. By chance if you are ahead of schedule like the A’s then great.
You will need to find players LIKE MILES BURRIS. U NEED 11 miles burr’s on defense (U know what i mean ) heart.. guys with HEART!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Two great things happened today,..the A`s won,..are the talk of the baseball world,..and I for one love the dirt infield during football games, the Raiders dont deserve any kind of great playing environment. I hope the dirt stays on the whole year. And two, the pic of DA smiling and laughing after being sodomized by a mule has made national news,…great link on PFT…so now hes on notice, only took him 4 games
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My man.. Ive been saying this. F’n ALLEN underestimated this fan base .. im sure he is feeling the pressure already from the media asking him certain questions about heart these players dont have.. lack of effort and crappy ZBS .. Im sure he wouldnt expect to be answering certain questions this quick in the season.
GUESS what allen.. u f’d up when u hired NAP .. now deal with it. Either demote him or continue to suck and the noise will get louder
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Go lakers baseball ended for me yesterday i bleed blue and the dodgers just coulntd get it together in time it’s koo we’re defitnitly compeating next year for the world series
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RaidersAllday, Allen has sealed his fate,..Mark would not have even noticed he went 2-14 this year,..however now his head coach is making national news, the Raiders are a national joke for not just being the worst team in the league,..he wouldnt get fired for that, (a year ago he would already have been rightfulyl canned),..but now Mark will for sure fire him after this 2-14 year ends,..because its very clear,..Allen couldnt care less about any Raider history, pride,..he hasnt a clue who the Raiders are,..he took it up his butt hard by Denver then laughed about it,…he will NEVER recover from that,..nor will Big Dummy Reggie for hiring him,..I will smile all season as the Raiders sink deeper and deeper,…knowing Mark will can both of those losers. Go A`s!
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Amy- I’m not sure where you’re getting this start idea from. I never said either player should start I said they should get a few plays here and there. As far as them sucking based on our running game that term could be used. and as far as our record why would the addition of Pryor on a series or two matter it could help you never know until you try it.
I
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
“The process has begun,” Allen said. “We’re going to continue to evaluate it. The players are going to be off but the coaches are still going to have some time to work. We’ll continue to look at every phase of what we’re doing, how we’re doing it, who’s doing it and we’re going to put the play together that we feel like gives us the best opportunity to win.”
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Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this what they’re supposed to do during PRESEASON… not the 4th or 5th week of the regular season.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
kevin boss, collecting a paycheck from his couch.
stanford routt still stanford routt. kam wimbley on an even worse defense.
philip wheeler leading the division in tackles. dlinemen making hustle plays downfield.
i don’t mind reggie’s moves, but the hiring of knapp by allen was a tragic blunder.
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
I’m glad that pic of DA laughing it up made the news. Any of us who even brought it up were trying to be made foolish for even mentioning it.
“It’s no big deal every coach does it” etc. etc. etc.
It WAS unusual especially after such a beatdown by a division rival.
It really looked bad.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
I’m glad that pic of DA laughing it up made the news. Any of us who even brought it up were trying to be made foolish for even mentioning it.
“It’s no big deal every coach does it” etc. etc. etc.
It WAS unusual especially after such a beatdown by a division rival.
It really looked bad.
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what did the news say about it? I’m in TX. Didn’t see it…
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
oh, ok. it was on pft
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Ok. After reading DA’s “explanation” I don’t buy it. Look at the pic. I don’t believe he was laughing in response to Fox asking him about injuries. The pic doesn’t match what he’s saying.
I don’t think DA is laughing about his team losing…but it’s something different from what he’s saying…it doesn’t match up.
I’m guessing is something along the lines of Fox joking about how much they beat our azz and DA saying “yeah you sure did…holy crap buddy” or something to that effect. But DA can’t say that’s what it is.
I’m just guessing, but it isn’t what DA said. The pic doesn’t match up.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Weren’t we 1-3 in 2010, facing a team we hadn’t beat in seemingly ten years?
What is all this talk about being 2-7 and when to put in Pryor?
We manage to beat the Falcons, the next 4 games we meet be favorites in all of them.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Optimist Chico! Dark side of the spoon!
Good trees.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Here’s an evaluation for you DA.
Knapp and the ZBS are the problem!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
We’re beating this to death but i’ll add another thought on “laugh gate”.
I wouldn’t doubt if Allen was saying “Hey, I was hoping u were gonna take it easy on me coach” or something to that effect, and then the “good luck buddy” shoulder slap at the end.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Manning and the broncos sodomized, humiliated and porked our team.
Banner for the front row:
We suck so good, try it, you’ll like it.
or
We like it up the rear
or
Gruden would never allow this
or
Didn’t know bending over was a game plan
or
Sign the petition: move the Raiders to NCAA Div II football. We need a win.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
When are your candidates going to speak of legalizing the sweet leaf?
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:33 pm
sodomized, humiliated and porked? Where did this guy come from. lets introduce him to beechy dawg
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
No you know why Allen laughing. End of story.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
When are your candidates going to speak of legalizing the sweet leaf?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Next election.
Vote Green Party. Green Party Rules!
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
One thing I can say about Tom Cable….
You could tell that he GENUINELY LOVED The Raiders!
I got the same feeling from Hue Jackson. He embraced the Raiders and the city of Oakland. You could see the passion in him.
I do NOT get that feeling at all from Dennis Allen. It seems like this is just another job to him.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Maybe some of you Oakland boys could make Knapp go to take nap with the fishes. You know what Klas saying?
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
One thing I can say about Tom Cable….
You could tell that he GENUINELY LOVED The Raiders!
I got the same feeling from Hue Jackson. He embraced the Raiders and the city of Oakland. You could see the passion in him.
I do NOT get that feeling at all from Dennis Allen. It seems like this is just another job to him.
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He gives that impression because he not black or fat guy. Looks like golfer.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Can anyone tell me the difference between a weak 8-8 team and a strong team? Man, the stuff I hear to justify the letting go of Hue is WEAK. Okay, give me all the strong 8-8 teams. Can’t wait to here.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Who needs 8-8 when you can go 3-13!
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
One thing I can say about Tom Cable….
You could tell that he GENUINELY LOVED The Raiders!
I got the same feeling from Hue Jackson. He embraced the Raiders and the city of Oakland. You could see the passion in him.
I do NOT get that feeling at all from Dennis Allen. It seems like this is just another job to him.
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You got that right. At least those coaches had players who wanted to play for them. Wonder how much longer before this team all together mails it in. If Allen has the teams interest, he will make coaching changes, not player personel moves. And quit tellin us you evaluating film, look at the coaching and the schemes first. There you’ll find the problem.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Reggie McKenzie is not about to be the first executive in NFL history to fire a head coach for smiling in a photo.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Pryor Sucks. He is an athlete, not a QB. ================ you forgot DUMB SPEARCHUCKER ~fang rules!
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I was just a question. And you know the Cleveland Browns, Jags, KC, our all thinking just like you.
It w278.Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Who needs 8-8 when you can go 3-13!
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
KC actually thought they was good like us, LOL.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Saints should tank season and go 0-16 so they can say get #1 pick and say screw you Roger.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
I’m glad that pic of DA laughing it up made the news. Any of us who even brought it up were trying to be made foolish for even mentioning it.
“It’s no big deal every coach does it” etc. etc. etc.
It WAS unusual especially after such a beatdown by a division rival.
It really looked bad.
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If you read Florios post, it states that the pic was causing a stir in the “gallows”.
That’s this place, this is the gallows. Believe it or not, people read this blog. It’s linked on a bunch of big sites including S.I.
It would have never have been a big deal, if the gallows didn’t make one out of it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Yes, but I guess I give credit to the Browns. They had a losing season and still kept their coach.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I dont know if u guys know this.. but the Underdog A’s just Clinched and won the AL WEST from the big dogs!!
Havent been in first place once this year.. till the last day of the season!! F’n epic.
A’s 94 wins
Rangers 93 wins
Anything is Possible.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Funny, yes why even think of winning now. lets rebuild.
284.Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Saints should tank season and go 0-16 so they can say get #1 pick and say screw you Roger.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
– People are clamoring for the Raiders to use quarterback Terrelle Pryor in some sort of special package, perhaps along the lines of how the New York Jets use Tim Tebow and the 49ers used Colin Kaepernick against the Jets last Sunday.
Pryor said last week, when asked if anything is in the works, that he isn’t sure when, or if, he might be used in a special package. Allen said Wednesday that how Pryor gets used, if at all, moving forward is under consideration.
“I don’t know,” Allen said. “We’ll look at that. We still have some time before we have to play Atlanta. That will be something we look at. I don’t know if that’s in our plans right now.”
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In other words, Tits is going to continue to keep TP inactive.
Tits apparently doesn’t think that having TP active, even if it’s just to run a wildcat play or two, would give opposing defenses something else to worry about and prepare for.
Nah, let’s just keep running those stretch runs for losses – over and over again.
Tittyboy and Krapp are clueless.
Wonder if Krappy is bright enough to realize that if those stretch runs are consistently being stuffed that maybe an option pass from DMAC or a reverse could help matters.
Forget about the ZBS completely failing so far. Krapp’s playcalling is so stagnant, unimaginative and boring that it’s actually difficult to watch this offense.
This is a train wreck of epic proportions.
BTW, Congrats to Mittens for body slamming Hussein in tonight’s debate.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
My HOPE is that what we’re seeing with DA is the next step in his evolution as a HC for the Raiders.
Step 1- He forms his “plan” and vision for long term success along with Reggie and goes about implementing it with (cough) Knapp and of course Tarver.
Step 1- ACTING and SOUNDING like a HC. He gets down all the HC cliches and uses them in the preseason describing his vision for the team. After SD, he has the chance to show that he can be gracious in defeat; congratulating the Chargers org. in glowing terms and not showing any emotion either way…like a real HC would. He’s human. He wants to belong. After the Pitt. win…he’s even keeled…not too excited, says all the appropriate cliches about it being “just one game” yada yada yada.
Step 3- He loses to his mentor in humiliating fashion and tries to play it off with Fox as no big deal..still trying to act like the seasoned HC who “belongs” and that he is not bothered by the reaming he just received….but inside…he’s ticked…MAJORLY… cuz at the end of the day he realizes now that the national media is now questioning his methods, decisions and ability; and are even comparing him unfavorably to Hue Jackson- suggesting he may not have been the right choice for a HC gig. Now with “laugh gate” and his strict adherence to the zbs and Gregg Knapp despite all evidence that it isn’t working, has people calling into question not only how serious he is taking this job, but more importantly his ABILITY to be an effective HC in this league.
His pride and ego now damaged by having his ability and desire questioned, he now decides “enough is enough” and now decides to take decisive action by taking inventory of everything on his team. He realizes now there is a very unhappy fan base that isn’t necessarily demanding a SB trophy this yr. but just wants to be “respected”. HOPEFULLY he realizes that humiliating beatdowns by ANY team in the league…especially hated division rivals like Denver, do not sit well with his owner, GM, or fanbase and cause even the national media to question “what kind of schlep do the Raiders have here with this guy Dennis Allen?”
I HOPE that the media suggesting he doesn’t even measure up to Hue Jackson infuriates him… and that there is something inside this guy that refuses to be looked upon as just some schlep who doesn’t belong.
I HOPE he takes all this criticism and questioning of his ability and desire and it unleashes the ultra competitive nature everyone said he possessed. I hope he says “i’m not taking this schytt anymore and i am gonna prove every doubter out there wrong”. “WE are the ones who are gonna start kicking azz and i’m gonna shove it down their throats when we do. And it starts TODAY”.
Unleash the REAL Dennis Allen…if he’s in there… and shut up the media, and everyone else who is questioning you.
Show everybody what you’re made of. Show the media and the doubters that you aren’t just gonna bend over and take it up the keyster and laugh about it afterwords as if it doesn’t matter. Show that you aren’t “just a guy”…or worse.
Shut us ALL up.
It starts now man.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:32 pm
BTW, Congrats to Mittens for body slamming Hussein in tonight’s debate.
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Life as the incumbent is a lot different as the candidate.
I think we, and the whole country if these polls are any indication, saw that plain as day.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
morilla Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
I’m glad that pic of DA laughing it up made the news. Any of us who even brought it up were trying to be made foolish for even mentioning it.
“It’s no big deal every coach does it” etc. etc. etc.
It WAS unusual especially after such a beatdown by a division rival.
It really looked bad.
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If you read Florios post, it states that the pic was causing a stir in the “gallows”.
That’s this place, this is the gallows. Believe it or not, people read this blog. It’s linked on a bunch of big sites including S.I.
It would have never have been a big deal, if the gallows didn’t make one out of it.
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No chit’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQf-zYn5TJE
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
How do you go from the #5 running game to the #32? Huh? Simple. Bring in a scheme that doesn’t fit player personel. Great recipe for being the worst, which makes you the best at being the worst.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
How do you go from an 8-8 season on the upswing to the worst team in the NFL? We are the worst cause we ended the season needing very little. Get a new DC, sign Bush and presto. Playoffs.
This is like a face lift gone bad, very bad.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Just heard the coolest thing on 95.7 THE GAME:
“The opinions express on this radio station are in no way paid for by corporate sponsors. That’s how we roll biatch”
-There might still be hope for America-
Go Oakland A’s….
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
and we’re going to put the play together that we feel like gives us the best opportunity to win.”
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Memo to Al Saunders: Input extremely needed.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
We are the worst cause we ended the season needing very little.
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Yup, just needed to win one of our last two home games, or 2 of our last total 5 games.
Instead, our HC put forth the worst monthly Raider performance all season.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
anyone seen beechy dawg? he’s dreamy and sux a mean schwongo
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
This first month of THIS season is exactly like the last month of LAST season.
Record is the same, points scored about the same, points allowed about the same, margin of loss actually worse.
Same team.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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HOLLA
uh huh. they let the televishun do that. this blog is about pollutics, raids and my favorite, droppin dueces. thats what we roll. but like i told u, my dueces are unhappy rite now.
FO SHIZZLE DOOBA WIZZLE
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
As the saying goes, same shat different shovel.
We ended last season getting lots of yards, moving the ball easily but turning it over often and having stupid penalties at a historic pace.
This offense doesn’t turn it over or have bad penalties, but they don’t move the ball the same.
The last 6 games of last year, we averaged 19.4 ppg, this season 16.8.
About a FG difference per game.
Same team, just repackaged.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
2010 we were 1-3, hopeless and playing a team nobody thought we could beat.
Coach Cable and his staff (Hue included) crafted a plan that focused on ST’s opportunities, taking what the defense gave them (I think Bush had 10 dump down catches that game) and getting crucial turnovers defensively.
Will be the same game plan in ATL, and I expect the same results.
A Raider victory.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
As the saying goes, same shat different shovel.
We ended last season getting lots of yards, moving the ball easily but turning it over often and having stupid penalties at a historic pace.
This offense doesn’t turn it over or have bad penalties, but they don’t move the ball the same.
The last 6 games of last year, we averaged 19.4 ppg, this season 16.8.
About a FG difference per game.
Same team, just repackaged.
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Coaches need to pull their heads out of their bedonga dongas and quit slurppin on their ja jas and turn this thing around, or someone will be hurtin in their hoochie coochie. Some ‘ol foo foo gets the same ‘ol poo poo.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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Take it easy. These guys bleed silver and black on game day. What is there to be positive about when you haven’t had a winning season in 10 years?
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Raiders will turn the falcons into a club sandwich, and the stadium where the falcons play will be rockin when the Raiders go feastin.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
JFB
You can pull any Bullsheet numbers out you want. Hue Jackson never ran any offense as bad as this.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
“The President looks like he needs a teleprompter”
-Bill Maher
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
DJ Johnny: That stuff you wrote was pretty good. Allen did seem sincere about changing things up even if that strays away from his original plans. I like that because if makes some adjustment for the players he would really be doing what is best for what the Raiders have now.
Like I said I do not dislike Coach Allen. But to be simple minded ,as he has, won’t go well with Raiders players and Raider fans that want to win now.
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
KK, have you ever seen such a beat down of a sitting pres on National Tv in your 75 years? He is just a clown in a suit….thats your boy!!!!
lmao
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Raiders had the #5 Oline in the league last year, the #7 Running game.
The first 5 games and the last 5 games.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
JFB
You can pull any Bullsheet numbers out you want. Hue Jackson never ran any offense as bad as this.
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Actually Hue’s first 4 games as a Raider OC are almost identical to these first 4 games from Knapp.
76 to 67 points, only 9 points better through 4 games in 2010, not even a FG a game.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
ROFL
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Romney looks more confident and energetic – he’s about a minute away from holding O bama down and cutting his hair. This better be ropeadope
-Bill Maher
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I’m back. Where’s that idiot that called me a troll. Don’t remember why but it had to be groundless. About 7-10 hours ago.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
KK Chick Fil A, keep up on Intrade for me, k
hahahaha
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
KK,
You keep saying this “#5 rated” O-line from last year, and site the NFL.com link.
All that link does for those rankings is rank the sacks allowed leaders. Yes we were #5 in sacks allowed last year.
We are tied for #6 right now.
Focus on the running numbers, which are massively awful compared to last year, and drop this “#5 ranked O-line” thing you keep saying, because that is a ranking on sacks allowed ONLY.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Lumbopradicto Says
Raiders will turn the falcons into a club sandwich, and the stadium where the falcons play will be rockin when the Raiders go feastin.==========Optimism is always good, keep it up.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Nfl.com say #5
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
One extra point wins games. So that’s one extra point times 9. The Raiders in theory won nine games.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
KK Chick Fil A, keep up on Intrade for me, k
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“The President began the debate with a 71 percent chance of winning. Immediately following the debate, his chances had fallen to just over 67 percent. Over the course of the day, his odds declined by more than 8 percent.”
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
KK, I see you dont wanna discus your hero’s dismal performance. I dont even blame you, in face I’m going to bed and i’ll hit you back tomorrow.
Do you think Michelle is still beating his ass?
hahahaha
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
“The President looks like he needs a teleprompter”
-Bill Maher
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When your biggest supporter is tweeting stuff like this, you know you got whupped.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Nfl.com say #5
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Here’s what you are basing that off, sacks allowed.
Change the dropdown tab from 2011 to 2012, and VIOLA, there we are tied for #6.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
KK Chick Fil A, keep up on Intrade for me, k
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“The President began the debate with a 71 percent chance of winning. Immediately following the debate, his chances had fallen to just over 67 percent. Over the course of the day, his odds declined by more than 8 percent.”
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So he STILL has an over two to one chance of winning in Nov? Gotta like those odds. Anyone wanna bet on romney winning?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
KK,
I am not saying this years O-line is beter, it obviously is nowhere close.
But you keep saying “the #5 rated O-line” as if NFL.com is ranking O-lines. They are not.
The #5 ranking, is based SOLELY on sacks allowed.
Sacks allowed are not issue right now in 2012.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I knew a few people I think could talk the shoes off both off them. It is all talk. My advise read the fine print.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Didn’t the Raiders win 2 of their first 4 last year?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Anyone wanna bet on romney winning?
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Absolutely.
You don’t have to give me 2-1 odds either, I will take 7 to 5.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
2 of our first 3 actually.
But that was Hue’s 2nd year, we will compare Knapp’s 2013 to Hue’s 2011, as that is an apples to apples comparision.
Compare 2012 to 2010.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Hue jack started the ball rolling deconstructing davis’s raiders when he brought in palmer, the qb that davis vetoed in the off season. ” palmer and knapp will need to produce big time “=================================So now it’s revisionist history and slander by association. This is freaking hilarious. I’d say you can’t make this kind of sh1t up, except mistic does.
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That’s how trolls roll.
===========================================================There it is. What’s up with that accusation, numb nuts? Most here know of mistics vendetta against Palmer. Why, nobody is sure or are too afraid to say.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
We’ve seen the real Dennis Allen. Do you really think that Elway and Fox would be ok with their defensive coordinator interviewing for their number one rival if they thought he could beat them twice a year? And yes I know they couldn’t stop him from doing the interview but if they thought that he was a threat they could have told him that if he interviewed with the Raiders he was going to be fired. If they really wanted to keep him they would have. Jerry Jones did it when the Raiders wanted to interview Sean Payton. He is what we think he is. Out if his league, over his head and currently destroying this franchise. I’ve never seen a coach wear less team gear in my life. But don’t worry Coach Mcdaniels. Texas A&M will be hiring you back in a couple of years and we will be rid of this nightmare. Dennis Allen is the Patrick Bates of Raider coaches. Pathetic.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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Don’t worry.
There are a lot of sound, pragmatic posters here to balance the psychotic ones like myself.
Not all Raider fans think the same way. I’m sure if they do read this blog they realize that.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
Didn’t the Raiders win 2 of their first 4 last year?=====================With a black head coach and a black quarterback. Can’t do it with whitey.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
There, you happy now, knappy?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I’m not going to compare 2010 to 2012. I’m comparing to last year.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
2010 we were 1-3, hopeless and playing a team nobody thought we could beat.
Coach Cable and his staff (Hue included) crafted a plan that focused on ST’s opportunities, taking what the defense gave them (I think Bush had 10 dump down catches that game) and getting crucial turnovers defensively.
Will be the same game plan in ATL, and I expect the same results.
A Raider victory.
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JFB, I wish I could agree with you.
This ain’t 2010.
I expect we’ll be double digit dogs in Atl and would hesitate to even think we’ll cover that.
My prognosis for the season is we will be lucky to win 4 games.
We’re really that bad.
I think it’s possible we might see some improvement on offnse. I fully expect that the D is going to be horrific the rest of the way.
Anything is possible, and you know I’ll be hoping against hope for a win in Atl, but realistically the chances of that happening are extremely slim.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Trysomereality, come out of your hole. I’m ready,dimbulb.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Anyone wanna bet on romney winning?
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Absolutely.
You don’t have to give me 2-1 odds either, I will take 7 to 5.
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Come on, that was before the debate. $1000 even up.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
What is with not wearing the Raiders gear with coach Allen?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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So sad bout my Raiders
We use to be good.
What happened in just less than one year. So sad. Everyone wanted Coach Al gone (well, at least the haters did). Well haters, you got what you wished for. A GM and a new HC and an OC that doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground.
So sad to see what they’ve done. But the haters wanted Coach gone. Coach woulda given HueJax another year. But the haters won. So sad.
Haters 1
Al Davis’ Raiders 0
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
We’ll see what the fact checkers say tomorrow.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says: Come on, that was before the debate. $1000 even up.=======================Somebody seriously wants to bet on this?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
We’ll see what the fact checkers say tomorrow.
========================================================Wwho are your fact checkers, kk? 35 minutes or whatever from the old grey lady, aka the NY times, the only source you bother to copy and paste from anymore?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I feel the pain.
340.Burton Guster Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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So sad bout my Raiders We use to be good.
What happened in just less than one year. So sad. Everyone wanted Coach Al gone (well, at least the haters did). Well haters, you got what you wished for. A GM and a new HC and an OC that doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground.
So sad to see what they’ve done. But the haters wanted Coach gone. Coach woulda given HueJax another year. But the haters won. So sad.
Haters 1
Al Davis’ Raiders 0
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Allen is supposed to be the face of this franchise. But he faked Reggie out. This is just a stepping stone to another job. He’s following the Lane Kiffin coaching playbook. He could care less about the Raiders. He didn’t look too upset during the press conference. During the bye week “Denver” Dennis is gonna go camping in Colorado. Hell I’m surprised he even took the flight back to Oakland.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Wow, the prez had his azz handed to him tonight.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
At first I was upset the bye week came so early. But now I see the NFL knew what they were doing when they gave the Raiders the bye after 4 weeks. They were being kind to Dennis Allen. They knew he’d need a breather and time to decide if he needs to dump his OC’s scheme, and his OC. They knew it. Mind boggling.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Wow, the prez had his azz handed to him tonight.
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Couldn’t have been as bad as Denver handing the Raiders their ass. No fckng way.
If thats true, Prez O will bounce back. Can you say the same about the Raiders? Will they bounce back? Especially will they bounce back if they keep ‘the scheme that sucks?’
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Maybe Dennis wants to live in LA, thats why He wears the visor and at times no Raider colors. I think Reggie will be happy with his pick,cuz He likes La as well? Junk zbs, get a New park at the same site, and carry on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Old fool Kell was born stupid,..now just a bitter jealous old man. Each day worse then the day before. #Exposed
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Raiders Palmer says lots of players sticking around during bye to get better . .
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Wow, the prez had his azz handed to him tonight.
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Romney was definitely aggressive. We’ll see what the fact checkers say. I don’t think he moved the ladies.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Doofus Boob, I’m the luckiest guy in the world, thanks.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
“I think everybody here within this organization knows that I take this very seriously,” said Allen. “I don’t laugh at getting beat like that, but it was a reaction to a question that, ‘No, we didn’t make it out healthy because we didn’t go into it healthy.”
It’s a rookie head coach mistake. He has been the head coach of the Raiders for just four regular season games. The relationship with Fox and the Broncos is still fresh. A lot of fans were angry about the way the Raiders looked on Sunday and many place a lot of the blame on Allen. That moment makes him an even easier target for ridicule. But Allen understands that if even only in hindsight.=====================But haters will hate.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Dakota Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Wow, the prez had his azz handed to him tonight.
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This is kind of a silly statement. In football metaphor, it’s like saying the other team gave up when they are doing a fourth quarter kneel down. When you are as far ahead as the President you don’t need to take chances.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Burton,
Re-electing Obam@ would be like the raiders re-hiring a failed former oc to run the offense. Didn’t work the first time around and no reason to believe things will be different the second time around.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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They’ll understand. We suck cuz of our zbs/wco. Our vanilla wanna be coaches.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
KoolKell Says: Doofus Boob, I’m the luckiest guy in the world, thanks.================Wanna bet?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Old Kell,..ya,..ok,..just keep telling yourself that, over and over again,..and maybe keep cutting links and pasting them to yourself,..over and over again.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.==============================There is no truer.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I think that metaphor would be more accurate if you said electing Romney would be like electing George Bush and trickle down economics again.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Good humor Burton. Mixing politic with Raider football. a few sweet words here and there wins people over. It worked for Reggie and DA so far with proving anything first.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Old Kell,..ya,..ok,..just keep telling yourself that, over and over again,..and maybe keep cutting links and pasting them to yourself,..over and over again.
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I do Doofus.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
As dis-functional and dis-jointed and and virulently argumentative as we are, we are RAIDER NATION.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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Cornfucios say everybody Raider fan deep inside heart.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says: I do Doofus.========Do you save them in a special folder?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Old Kell,..you and Big Dummy Reggie look like a couple Greyhoud bus washers. You guys quarreling about who dries after a couple bottles of Ripple.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
As dis-functional and dis-jointed and and virulently argumentative as we are, we are RAIDER NATION.
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Yes, and your spelling and alone is an embarrassment.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Old Kell,..you and Big Dummy Reggie look like a couple Greyhoud bus washers. You guys quarreling about who dries after a couple bottles of Ripple.
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You talking about your fatt azzed daddy?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
354, as a coach, Tom Flores had more fire than this guy. And Tom was laid back, at least to the public. How can You move to zbs when You have Saunders and Dmac ? Nothing needed fixing on O, just improve and FOCUS on the friggin DDDDDDDDDDD
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Amybitcch you’re here for ..what?
Meth vouches for you but you are a whiner punk, are you not?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Norco bob my ass.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Old Kell,…you and Big Dummy Reggie should do a stand up act, like Fred Sanford and Grady,..in front of the barber shop,..put a Folgers can out front,.get some change.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
As dis-functional and dis-jointed and and virulently argumentative as we are, we are RAIDER NATION.
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Yes, and your spelling and alone is an embarrassment.
=============Challenge one kk.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Waiting kk.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Purv,..ya upset tonight?…that Faider laugher at Mile High not wore off yet?…dang, sorry babe,…go to the Stick Sunday,..I will be there,…got great seats,…watch the Niners shut out Buffalo…good times.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Old Kell,…you and Big Dummy Reggie should do a stand up act, like Fred Sanford and Grady,..in front of the barber shop,..put a Folgers can out front,.get some change
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Doofus Boob, I’m fine, really.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
KoolKell Says:Yes, and your spelling and alone is an embarrassment.================= Explain your mastery of he English language with this observation.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Ok Trolls, that’s your quota of excitement for the night.
Switch/off
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Yeah, I am upset. Don’t take it lightly. So what?
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Hi Everybody
Oakglen here. Sure do luv my Oakglen Raiders.
P.S. Somebody has been swiping my handle saying how much I luv my Oakglen Raiders. You’ll know it’s the real me if I say I really luv my Oakglen Raiders. I mean like I really like mean it is what I say, fo real.
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Oh, kk got fvcked on the English language thing and bailed.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Anyone wanna bet on romney winning?
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Absolutely.
You don’t have to give me 2-1 odds either, I will take 7 to 5.
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Come on, that was before the debate. $1000 even up.
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Dude… Romney needs to win ALL THREE… Florida, Ohio, and Virginia to win the Prez.
He trails right now in all three.
An oddsmaker would be putting Romney winning at 10-1.
Take his cash!
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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ROFLMAO Who gives a hoot.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Wanking Johnson, it is the RAIDER NATION. Code uh, hmm, code pants? ,no, hm code , whatever. RAIDERS!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
So sad to see what they’ve done. But the haters wanted Coach gone. Coach woulda given HueJax another year. But the haters won. So sad.
Haters 1
Al Davis’ Raiders 0
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If Al Davis was still alive, Hue Jackson would still be coach and a GUARANTEE we would not be 32nd in rushing, at the very least.
Probably 2-2 right now.
Still thinking playoffs.
Right now most Raider fans are thinking of dumping players.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
HOLLA DUDES
me and my girlfrien holla just shared a first prize at a very large duece droppin contest. we’re so happy about the prize, but my dueces are unhappy because the raids aint winnin.
HOLLA HOLLA HOLLA BIG DUECE FO THE DOLLA
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
386, its not bingo night, but I agree…BINGO
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
KoolKell Says:Yes, and your spelling and alone is an embarrassment.===================Back at you tomorrow kk no respite, no retreat , you will answer or bludge like you usually do.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Purvis, I’ve been slapping trolls like you on the assz for years on this blog. You know why? Trolls by nature aren’t very bright.
And your commentary here is a complete embarrassment to Raider Nation
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Gdog Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Anyone wanna bet on romney winning?
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Absolutely.
You don’t have to give me 2-1 odds either, I will take 7 to 5.
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Come on, that was before the debate. $1000 even up.
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Dude… Romney needs to win ALL THREE… Florida, Ohio, and Virginia to win the Prez.
He trails right now in all three.
An oddsmaker would be putting Romney winning at 10-1.
Take his cash!
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I’m the one taking the Pres. Come one Vegas, put some “faith” in your boy. I am sure one of the more reputable posters here can hold the cash until after election day.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
If Pat Lee and Hanson is starting on the outside DA evaluation iz a failure…
Hanson shld be cut yesterday…
Can’t cover
Can’t come up and tackle when the ball is completed short of the marker
I wanted to kick my tv off the stand when he went up high tryna tackle the reciever when even I knew u cut him down…
Hanson is just to small…
Even in pads
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
That BAY AREA sports scene is back. Giants, Whiners, OAKLAND A’s… guess who’s missin and who is sucks right now?
Raiders tsk tsk
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
386, Dont Forget dumping Coaches!
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
For years old Kell?…yes youve been here for years,..an old fool in his 60`s, thinking hes winning blog fights with kids less then half his age,..thats why people the real estate biz think youre disturbed….a weird old dude that hangs in blogs, usually drunk,..hasnt closed a house in years….it would be funny if it werent so creepy. You are one creepy old man.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
How are the Raiders the only team in the bay that missed the MEMO?? U guys are suppose to keep up and have a bright outlook.
Only my raiders lol damn man.. get it together REGGIE shyyyt
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Pat Lee did not play that poorly in the last game. Neither did Hanson. It was McClain who was awful.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
G-dog put me down for Hanson
And Mac55 you are on a tight watch on my cut list
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
For years old Kell?…yes youve been here for years,..an old fool in his 60`s, thinking hes winning blog fights with kids less then half his age,..thats why people the real estate biz think youre disturbed….a weird old dude that hangs in blogs, usually drunk,..hasnt closed a house in years….it would be funny if it werent so creepy. You are one creepy old man.
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Doofus you’ve been following this old man for years.
What does that make you? Get a life Boob.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
That BAY AREA sports scene is back. Giants, Whiners, OAKLAND A’s… guess who’s missin and who is sucks right now?
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Interesting point. Warriors?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Seymour bush wut came did u watch???
Hanson plays like a deer in head lights
He looks smaller than Chris Carr
And I didn’t think that was even possible
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
I pop on in here old man during the season,..you come here daily, all year long,..for years,..you are a creepy old man,..get some professional help dude.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Seymour bush wut came did u watch???
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Seriously, those guys didn’t play that poorly. No pass rush. McClain was absolutely horrible. There are your problems right there.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
I pop on in here old man during the season,..you come here daily, all year long,..for years,..you are a creepy old man,..get some professional help dude.
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I’m doing fine Doofus Boob, maybe you should worry about your own life?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
seymour bush i seen like 3 3rd down plays were the pass was completed in front of Hanson short of the marker in he fail to get the guy down on the grown
Now mc55 was weak sauce the pass rush… Well there was none…
But I know 4 a fact there are free agent db’s much better than wut we put out on the field
ComOnSon!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Ok Trolls, that’s your quota of excitement for the night.
Switch/off/ KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Purvis, I’ve been slapping trolls like you on the assz for years on this blog. You know why? Trolls by nature aren’t very bright.
And your commentary here is a complete embarrassment to Raider Nation.===========I never did get my grammer or language usage corrected, kk. However, being slapped down by an idiot whose opinions I’ve been skipping over for 4 years just makes me want to hang up my semi guns and call it a day. Thought you were leaving and aren’t you in fact, an idiot? Where did you hide that reply to your mensa membership. You remember the one.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I still got this NFL Sunday Ticket pamphlet on my shelve with a big J marcus Russell picture on it. wondering what to do with it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
And I can believe the way this offence has took such a huge step back
I didn’t trip when we canned hue…
But he wanted the raiders to be successful
As bad as we did
But DA wanted knapp
wen I thought Mike Martz wld hav been a way better choice
Knapp looks like he belongs in an old wise guy flick
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
REALLIONAIREB:
What was the Lester Hayes comment? I’m paid to cover, not tackle. McClain is paid to tackle. He didn’t. And he can’t cover. The pass rush did nothing. If there is no rush, and Peyton Manning is the opponent, I can’t blame the corners and safeties.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Purvis please continue to skip over my comments.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I still got this NFL Sunday Ticket pamphlet on my shelve with a big J marcus Russell picture on it. wondering what to do with it.
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Mail it to him. Here’s the address: #2 Lazy Fatass Road, Mobile, Alabama
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
That’s great stuff!
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Waiting to hear how bright you are, KK. Correct my grammer yet, bright boy? Oh, screw it, who the he11 cares what an old fool who can’t remember when he said he was going to bed says?
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Still laughing.
411.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I still got this NFL Sunday Ticket pamphlet on my shelve with a big J marcus Russell picture on it. wondering what to do with it.
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Mail it to him. Here’s the address: #2 Lazy Fatass Road, Mobile, Alabama
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
McCheese not only needs to be benched but possibly declared as inactive for a week or two. It sends the message that unless he gives 150% effort for 100% of the game, he’ll be kicked to the curb permanently.
He is worthless out there. He can’t get off blocks; he continually picks the wrong gap; he doesn’t pursue the play once it passes him by; and, he’s a detriment to the defense because he gets in the way of other defenders trying to make a play. Bottom line, he’s a BUST right up there with JaLoser.
DA would be well advised to deal with this guy sooner than later – just remember to wear a bulletproof vest.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 pm
My favorite posts tonight:
#1
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
#2
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
I’ve been slapping trolls like you on the assz for years……..
#3
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
please continue to skip over my comments.
#4
2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
That’s great stuff!
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October 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Seymour bush
Please tell me your not comparing Hanson to Lester Hayes ???
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
you guy’s are killing me!
JB Says:
DA would be well advised to deal with this guy sooner than later – just remember to wear a bulletproof vest.
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
JB Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
McCheese not only needs to be benched but possibly declared as inactive for a week or two. It sends the message that unless he gives 150% effort for 100% of the game, he’ll be kicked to the curb permanently.
He is worthless out there. He can’t get off blocks; he continually picks the wrong gap; he doesn’t pursue the play once it passes him by; and, he’s a detriment to the defense because he gets in the way of other defenders trying to make a play. Bottom line, he’s a BUST right up there with JaLoser.
DA would be well advised to deal with this guy sooner than later – just remember to wear a bulletproof vest.
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Lets see if DA has the balls to make a statement. Needs to shіt can the OC’s playbook and make him a lame duck. Bring in Saunders.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Seymour bush
Please tell me your not comparing Hanson to Lester Hayes ???
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No. My point is without a pass rush there is very little corners are going to do against Manning.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
I didn’t see a Peyton manning who jus pick our secondary apart
I seen a lot of short throws with a ridiculous amount of Yac
Idk wut the Yac were for the game
But I’m sure it was more than the norm!!!
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
I WAS a Seymour fan when he first arrived. I’m sorry to say his star has lost most of it’s glitter.
I now find myself commenting to statements from Seymour when he says we are close; we are just about there; we are a dominate defense – possibly top 5; and, other self serving statements. My message to Seymour & anyone else at the Raiders dropping these little bombs is “STFU, NO MORE LIP SERVICE. NO MORE ABOUT WHAT WILL BE. JUST WALK THE WALK AND SHOW US ON THE FIELD. Anything short of results on the field is just BS.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Yo
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Troll Master Says:My favorite posts tonight:
#2
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
I’ve been slapping trolls like you on the assz for years……..
#3
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
please continue to skip over my comments.==============================I inspired both of those. Thank you, thank you very much.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Newbe here. Long time listener , first time calling. What a great site. Want to shout out to my fellas in big Redwood City. got lots of fans on that side. it aint all whiner country round there. Man, the Raiders gots to win some fckn games, no bull. My girlfriend is a bigger Raider nut than me, she gets mad as a wet hen when the Raiders dont win, and when shes mad, well, you guys know what that means. I had to bring an electric blanket to the dog house last sunday night, cuz it was chillin outside. catch yall latah.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Bryant has earned the starting DT role ahead of Seymour. McCheese should be benched and deactivated. Houston should be moved inside. The 3-4 should be our primary defensive configuration. All of our active CB’s are trash. Huff should be gone next year. Seymour should really retire – bad wheels & long of tooth. TP6 should be elevated to #2 QB and used in some wildcat plays like Keapernick was used by the Niners. If we are in a blowout, pull CP3 & let’s see what TP6 can do with the ones. Carlisle is over the hill and needs to be replaced. Brisel needs to improve or moved to back-up.
These are just some of the obvious things that DA should realize with his bye week extensive analysis.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
I don’t see Richard Seymour holding the Raiders back. Probably still the best D lineman we have.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
A bed wetting boy fantasizing about a girl? Something MR has never experienced. I’m outta here.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Knapp says the run game is getting better,what a joke.I guess when we get to 3 yards a carry they will get a day off.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
I seen on here earlier SeymourBush was comparing the A’s to the Raiders saying the difference between the two was heart… sorry to tell you brother, but heart isn’t the problem. The problem is leadership. The A’s have the luxury of having a real GM in Billy Beane who actually knows what he’s doing (he has his own movie for christ sakes) and a Coach/skipper in Bob Melvin who knows how to manage the game, get the best out of his players and get them believing. Then I heard you calling our 8-8 season last year a fluke because we either barely won, played lesser talent, or got a break and took advantage of injury, but the bottom line is we won. We handled business and won the games we were suppose to win. and I don’t believe our season last year was a fluke because the year before we went 8-8 and swept the division. Hue was our offensive signal caller both years which means he was the common denominator and Reggie came in and showed how much he knows by getting rid of him. Its not that the raiders don’t have heart, they’re playing scared/timid and not to make a mistake instead of playing to win because the GM is ready to cut any player who wasn’t wearing green and gold last year at first chance. The A’s leadership has their team believing while the raiders leadership has their team scared… thats the difference.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
KK, thought you were out of here. Came back to correct my language usage, or isyour ‘crack’ staff still working on that?
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
I don’t see Richard Seymour holding the Raiders back. Probably still the best D lineman we have.
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At one time possibly. No longer though. Bryant should be starting ahead of him.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
A bed wetting boy fantasizing about a girl? Something MR has never experienced. I’m outta here.
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Purvis, good. The less you’re around here the better, for the Raider Nation.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Remember Sullen 1, I busted your ‘golden jew’ handle.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Gnite Gents.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Never going to answer the question are you, KK? You threw out the the challenge and ran away scared.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I’m outta here too.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I’m going to make good on my original threat, also.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
The Mack is right after years of poor offense you get rid of the guy that made it happen,I don’t know if he didn’t want al David to have any credit or just dumb.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Hue jack started the ball rolling deconstructing davis’s raiders when he brought in palmer, the qb that davis vetoed in the off season. ” palmer and knapp will need to produce big time “=================================So now it’s revisionist history and slander by association. This is freaking hilarious. I’d say you can’t make this kind of sh1t up, except mistic does.
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That’s how trolls roll.
===========================================================There it is. What’s up with that accusation, numb nuts? Most here know of mistics vendetta against Palmer. Why, nobody is sure or are too afraid to say.
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Wasn’t referring to you.
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Seymour came out talking about relaxing and having fun because Reggie and DA has the playes scared as hell that they’re going to get cut if they make a mistake. If you’ve ever played organized sports before you know that its hard to perform at your highest level when you’re thinking about not making a mistake instead of just playing and having fun. Yes it’s a buisness but this football not telemarketing… if you don’t love what youre doing youre bound to fail and once it starts to feel like a job instead of what you love you’re going to check out, and that’s what the players have done… checked out. Because Reggie the dictator has took the fun out of football for the raiders and DA’s comment about how he disagrees with seymour proves how much of a disconnect he has from his players. Ive been a fan of this team all my life and in the state theyre in now being run by mark davis, reggie mckenzie, and dennis allen… I wouldn’t want to play for this team. I’d hold out and ask to be traded like ELI manning if I were drafted.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Another thing I dislike about reggiie the dictator is his disbelief in developing talent. I understand getting rid of lou murphy, not being able to afford bush and all those guys but I really believe he dropped the ball on DVD and Bruce campbell. No they weren’t probowlers but they had all the god given attributes that can’t be coached. They were only in their second years. You believe you hired the best of coaches well make them earn their check and take players who have all the attributes that can’t be coached and maxximize on it by coaching them on the attributes that could be coached. Thats how stars are born. Imagine if Nnamdi would have been cut after only his second year, we’d of missed out on a good player. In camp all guys like cork and jerry talked about was how many plays DvD was making and how he looked like our bset db but he struggled in games… maybe it was because he was a young guy who had jitters and wasn’t comfortable playing on the big stage just yet. Give him time and let him get settled down and those plays he makes in practice will probably show up on the field… but ole Reg aint even give the young man a chance and now his old 8 year and 9 year vets in Pat lee and Joselio Hanson are getting thrashed every sunday. Im sure DVD couldn’t have done any worse. Im positive he’d be better.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
A weak 8-8 team (only real win coming against a reeling Chargers team and Palmer playing in front of La Jolla – his backyard. – us barely being able to beat the Bears and backup Caleb Hanie….us eking out a win v. the Texans, who were a playoff team. ….we should’ve blown out the Vikings, and kept them in it.
The reality is the roster is a culmination of picks that should have been there and have long since been traded, with a number of former players barely hanging on as subs or out of the league. The draft is the key and picks were traded, the coaching staff had little if any input – and you see the result.
Arizona is back primarily due to drafted players like O’Brien Schofield, Patrick Peterson, Calais Campbell and keeping their coaching staff (Ken Whisenhunt, who we could’ve had, if Davis let him pick his staff) – top notch assistants like Bones Fassel left due to the uncertainty of coaching, the ST struggle YET AGAIN.
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
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This analysis is spot on. Our woes are not just borne from hiring Greg Knapp or Reggie Mac’s time here. We have stunk as a team for ten years. Al Davis lost the plot sometime in the 1990’s and down the road we are now paying for it. Teams don’t become bad overnight. It takes time and patience to screw up a great organisation like the Raiders. Last year’s 8-8 was just papering over the cracks.
Anyhow, I am hopeful that DA/RM and MD’s efforts will return us at least back to the play-offs within the next three years.
Go Raiders!
October 4th, 2012 at 1:15 am
Preach on Mack Man, just know one thing….
“the further this regime drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFUSiRCLBM
October 4th, 2012 at 1:16 am
LondonAl Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
A weak 8-8 team (only real win coming against a reeling Chargers team and Palmer playing in front of La Jolla – his backyard. – us barely being able to beat the Bears and backup Caleb Hanie….us eking out a win v. the Texans, who were a playoff team. ….we should’ve blown out the Vikings, and kept them in it.
The reality is the roster is a culmination of picks that should have been there and have long since been traded, with a number of former players barely hanging on as subs or out of the league. The draft is the key and picks were traded, the coaching staff had little if any input – and you see the result.
Arizona is back primarily due to drafted players like O’Brien Schofield, Patrick Peterson, Calais Campbell and keeping their coaching staff (Ken Whisenhunt, who we could’ve had, if Davis let him pick his staff) – top notch assistants like Bones Fassel left due to the uncertainty of coaching, the ST struggle YET AGAIN.
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
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This analysis is spot on. Our woes are not just borne from hiring Greg Knapp or Reggie Mac’s time here. We have stunk as a team for ten years. Al Davis lost the plot sometime in the 1990’s and down the road we are now paying for it. Teams don’t become bad overnight. It takes time and patience to screw up a great organisation like the Raiders. Last year’s 8-8 was just papering over the cracks.
Anyhow, I am hopeful that DA/RM and MD’s efforts will return us at least back to the play-offs within the next three years.
Go Raiders!
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You must be the night security guard on break in Alameda signing on to keep your job…..did you go to high school with Reggie?
October 4th, 2012 at 1:18 am
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again…
If this organization spent as much time actually improving themselves instead of creating the illusion of improvement….we might be an average football team….
October 4th, 2012 at 2:04 am
Two men were arguing about a flag flapping in the wind. “It’s the wind that is really moving,” stated the first one. “No, it is the flag that is moving,” contended the second. A Zen master, who happened to be walking by, overheard the debate and interrupted them. “Neither the flag nor the wind is moving,” he said,
“It is MIND that moves.”
October 4th, 2012 at 2:45 am
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour talked Monday about the need for players to have fun. He said players tend to take losses too hard and lose sight of the fun aspect of the game
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this is “Leadership” ??
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 am
Pryor hasn’t been active for any of Oakland’s first four regular-season games
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Reggie & Dennis wearing the dunce cap
October 4th, 2012 at 2:49 am
backstageatapuppetshow,no. I’m in a different time zone. It was breakfast time here
There are Raider fans all over the world…..
October 4th, 2012 at 2:52 am
Seymour was excused from practice today for personal reasons, Allen said
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having fun, no doubt
October 4th, 2012 at 3:07 am
LondonAl Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:49 am
backstageatapuppetshow,no. I’m in a different time zone. It was breakfast time here
There are Raider fans all over the world…..
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I was making a joke my Raider friend….albeit in poor taste….
My intention is to motivate our GM….it wasn’t meant to discredit you…
How many NFL/Raider fans are there in London?
Are there more Soccer fans than American Football fans or is the NFL # increasing?
October 4th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Evaluation process in full swing for Raiders Coach Dennis Allen promised a thorough evaluation of his team over the next two weeks. That process will take him and his coaching staff from A to Z, Allen said. As of now, the process is somewhere in the middle, Allen said. Now that the players are … [...]
October 4th, 2012 at 3:37 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:07 am
LondonAl Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:49 am
backstageatapuppetshow,no. I’m in a different time zone. It was breakfast time here
There are Raider fans all over the world…..
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I was making a joke my Raider friend….albeit in poor taste….
My intention is to motivate our GM….it wasn’t meant to discredit you…
How many NFL/Raider fans are there in London?
Are there more Soccer fans than American Football fans or is the NFL # increasing?
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No worries friend. I know you were being friendly.
Soccer is #1 here and I don’t think that will change. Lots of NFL caps being worn but for some reason they are often the Vikings (!). I have no idea why that is. Still you still see a lot of Raiders gear but oddly again for the LA Raiders. London is a confusing city at times. Overall the NFL continues to grow and I think that is down to the game played every year at Wembley stadium in NW London. I am still waiting for the Raiders to show up. Later this month the Rams play the Cheatriots. I may go so I can abuse the Cheatriot fans
PS. I assume Reggie is motivated as he was a winner at Breen Bay and I can’t see him just collecting a pay check every month but time will tell….
October 4th, 2012 at 3:40 am
You mean you didn’t go to wembley in ‘90?
October 4th, 2012 at 3:53 am
neilb Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:40 am
You mean you didn’t go to wembley in ‘90?
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I was in the military and stuck in Norway
October 4th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
A weak 8-8 team (only real win coming against a reeling Chargers team and Palmer playing in front of La Jolla – his backyard. – us barely being able to beat the Bears and backup Caleb Hanie….us eking out a win v. the Texans, who were a playoff team. ….we should’ve blown out the Vikings, and kept them in it.
The reality is the roster is a culmination of picks that should have been there and have long since been traded, with a number of former players barely hanging on as subs or out of the league. The draft is the key and picks were traded, the coaching staff had little if any input – and you see the result.
Arizona is back primarily due to drafted players like O’Brien Schofield, Patrick Peterson, Calais Campbell and keeping their coaching staff (Ken Whisenhunt, who we could’ve had, if Davis let him pick his staff) – top notch assistants like Bones Fassel left due to the uncertainty of coaching, the ST struggle YET AGAIN.
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
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Well said Sam. No, I don’t think Allen is here to get a lower level (college) gig. I think Allen and McKenzie are starting to realize this roster is pretty sparse.
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Thanks, Seymour Bush. It appears the main part where they may have miscalculated was in
1. releasing Routt without a backup plan to include a corner to replace him – the worst came out when BOTH Spencer and Bartell went down to injury.
2. releasing Wimbley, without a proven rush or scheme that was rush/blitz effective.
3. most importantly , releasing Bush, who MIGHT have been a better fit as a one cut guy with more power, but i doubt even he would’ve been able to fit in this version.
It appears they miscalculated on Van Dyke and Taiwan Jones being able to turn the corner and take it to the next level.
LondonAl Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:37 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:07 am
LondonAl Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:49 am
backstageatapuppetshow,no. I’m in a different time zone. It was breakfast time here
There are Raider fans all over the world…..
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I was making a joke my Raider friend….albeit in poor taste….
My intention is to motivate our GM….it wasn’t meant to discredit you…
How many NFL/Raider fans are there in London?
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That demographic is critical, as Godell seems to be intent on moving a franchise to England to match the L.A. addition bringing the total to 34 teams. Its a mistake, because once the interest wanes, its too difficult to explain the rules and you cant make out the players faces – square peg in a round hole.
I agree the Wembley Bowl could stand to go for a few more years.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 am
Dont give up nation my ZBS system will work….just not here! LOL!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:52 am
Seymour was excused from practice today for personal reasons, Allen said
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having fun, no doubt
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He’s got kids, and ADOPTED ones at that – believe me, his personal reasons are valid – its not like he’s “ballin outta control” at the strip club making it rain.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:16 am
LondonAl Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
A weak 8-8 team (only real win coming against a reeling Chargers team and Palmer playing in front of La Jolla – his backyard. – us barely being able to beat the Bears and backup Caleb Hanie….us eking out a win v. the Texans, who were a playoff team. ….we should’ve blown out the Vikings, and kept them in it.
The reality is the roster is a culmination of picks that should have been there and have long since been traded, with a number of former players barely hanging on as subs or out of the league. The draft is the key and picks were traded, the coaching staff had little if any input – and you see the result.
Arizona is back primarily due to drafted players like O’Brien Schofield, Patrick Peterson, Calais Campbell and keeping their coaching staff (Ken Whisenhunt, who we could’ve had, if Davis let him pick his staff) – top notch assistants like Bones Fassel left due to the uncertainty of coaching, the ST struggle YET AGAIN.
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
==========================================
This analysis is spot on. Our woes are not just borne from hiring Greg Knapp or Reggie Mac’s time here. We have stunk as a team for ten years. Al Davis lost the plot sometime in the 1990’s and down the road we are now paying for it. Teams don’t become bad overnight. It takes time and patience to screw up a great organisation like the Raiders. Last year’s 8-8 was just papering over the cracks.
Anyhow, I am hopeful that DA/RM and MD’s efforts will return us at least back to the play-offs within the next three years.
Go Raiders!
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You must be the night security guard on break in Alameda signing on to keep your job…..did you go to high school with Reggie?
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I love how somebody puts up a detailed analysis and a fan just throws up a corn ball a&& approach with no thought whatsoever. “Raider Fan” is outraged.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:42 am
You ant seen nuthin yet!!!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Sam….
About a franchise in England.I don’t want one and it wouldn’t work.
The games start over here at 6pm and 9pm.The 9pm game doesn’t finish till well after midnight.The English francise would never be able to play a Sunday or Monday night game at home because of the time difference.
Next is a point I don’t think the nfl has thought about.I wouldn’t follow a London nfl team.Why should I? Why would I give up on a team I’ve followed for decades to support a new team?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:45 am
……there is a growing interest in football – I’ll give Goddell that.But I still get asked about the “fridge”.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:46 am
……and “why do they wear all that padding and helmets?”.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:47 am
“…Zone run right on two Carson…AND DONT AUDIBLE!”
October 4th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Coach Dennis Allen promised a thorough evaluation of his team over the next two weeks. That process will take him and his coaching staff from A to Z, Allen said.
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Shouldn’t that be “from A to ZBS”?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:54 am
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/10/03/knapp-says-running-game-made-good-strides/ Its ok people its working so chill out!!
October 4th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Where’s Buckeye at?
It’s going down on Saturday good buddy!!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Seymour Bush,
If I am going to bet a penny on something, I am going to find the best odds.
Not going to take even money, when I can get better odds than that elsewhere.
I stick to my 7 to 5.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Raiders move to Sweden? Mark Davis has the haircut for it. The Nordic Raiders!
October 4th, 2012 at 6:15 am
I shudder to think that Allen could be Kiffin II. Someone here using our situation as a stepping stone to a BCS head coaching gig…has it come to that?
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DA has been an NFL assistant/coach for 10 years. I doubt very highly he took this job to get a college gig.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:23 am
# neilb Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:46 am
……and “why do they wear all that padding and helmets?”.
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Tell em: So they can hit each other harder…
Thats what some people don’t get, you take away the pads, and football becomes about as rough as Rugby..I played both, and while it is Perceived that Rugby is this rough sport since there aren’t any pads, its no tougher than your average tacklle sandlot football game. The collisions I experienced at Linebacker and Running Back and Kickoff/Kickoff return are light years ahead of a Rugby Collision…
Euros dont get that…
October 4th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Mark Schlereth just said the Cowboys will never win again until organizational structure is changed. Sound familiar?
October 4th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Thanks, Seymour Bush. It appears the main part where they may have miscalculated was in
1. releasing Routt without a backup plan to include a corner to replace him – the worst came out when BOTH Spencer and Bartell went down to injury.
2. releasing Wimbley, without a proven rush or scheme that was rush/blitz effective.
3. most importantly , releasing Bush, who MIGHT have been a better fit as a one cut guy with more power, but i doubt even he would’ve been able to fit in this version.
It appears they miscalculated on Van Dyke and Taiwan Jones being able to turn the corner and take it to the next level.
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Routt and Wimbleys contracts were ridiculous. We all know that. McKenzie isn’t going to sit on absurd contracts just to get an extra win or 2.
Bush wasn’t released. His contract was up and he priced himself out of our market. I don’t think he wanted to come back, he jumped at Chicago’s offer.
They didn’t miscalculate anything on DVD, thats why he didn’t make the team. You just cant plan for BOTH your starting QB’s to have long term injuries at the same time. You can’t show me a team deep enough to handle that unscathed.
Goodson was the guy to backup DMAC the whole time. Jones is a 5-8 touch guy, but our offense hasn’t gotten going. You don’t throw wrinkles in when your bread and butter aint working.
The biggest problem is that most of you thought that Reggie could come in, draft a few pro bowlers after round 4 and we were a super bowl contender. In reality, this team, particularly the defense, is no where near playoff calibur. We NEED 3 years to build the defense because we have crap players.
I agree that the offense has taken a step back, the organization agrees the offense has taken a step back. I think the ONLY miscalculation so far was not resigning Bob Wylie.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Didn’t the lions get rid of all 11 starters on defence after their 0-16 season?
October 4th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Schlereth is a f’n chode
October 4th, 2012 at 6:37 am
btw, welcome back Klas!
October 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Just to let everyone know if u have children who play Pop Warner all the way up to high school I am offering my services as how to properly implement a ZBS system for your team (=
October 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Not all of them, they have a few guys still left over from the 0-16 season.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:52 am
It sucks that we’re already talkin about the draft, but hey, gotta reach toward the light. I’m really pleased with Wheeler so far, and I think Burris will be a great anchor eventually.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Bcz24.
I think miscalculations have to include handing out some 20 million dollars in real money to bring back Seymour, Huff, Branch and Barnes and signing Bartell, Brisiel and every other veteran stopgag we plugged outside of Wheeler, we should have absorved the cap hit coming from releasing as much contracts as we could into this year’s cap, instead of spending real and cap money on a bunch of players that won’t be a part of our future.
Truth is, management and most of us were aiming for an improvement over last season’s 8 wins, they were looking at the Division title or a wildcard berth this year and it’s not working out, I think we might have wasted a season here.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:02 am
@BOB Marley “Truth is, management and most of us were aiming for an improvement over last season’s 8 wins”…they sure arnt coaching like it,why would they scrap the O in total ?
October 4th, 2012 at 7:04 am
I’m not passing judgement on our every move, I agreed with most of them because I felt we had a shot this year and so did Reggie and DA; after all, if Cable and Hue managed to get 8 wins the last 2 years with a roster lacking NFL quality everywhere (very debatable) we should have expected more with better coaching right?.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:10 am
I just cant understand taking a torch approach to the O. I think when we look back that will be DA biggest mistake.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Still, I’m gonna side with JFB a while longer, still holding out hope we manage to get to 4-4 by mid-season and make a push in the 2nd half.
Yes.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Players need to man up and beat the guy in front of them. Step up and make a damn tackle too. No excuses anymore. Scheme this scheme that blah blah blah. Our players need to man up.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Accountabilty smountabilty. Tired of all the politically correct lip service fom coaches and players.
When they look at film and see themselves taken an Ass whoppin how can anyone awnser to that?
October 4th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I am in the JFB camp too!
Just got to wonder what DA is thinking.
How you gonna make any wholesale changes if your team is off on days off? I am affraid that question just awnsered itself.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I had a lump in my throat when I read Knapp was back…
October 4th, 2012 at 7:25 am
483.Bob Marley Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:04 am
I’m not passing judgement on our every move, I agreed with most of them because I felt we had a shot this year and so did Reggie and DA; after all, if Cable and Hue managed to get 8 wins the last 2 years with a roster lacking NFL quality everywhere (very debatable) we should have expected more with better coaching right?.
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New coach, new schemes on both sides of the ball, new front office, new everything. Tough to underestimate just how disruptive that is.
It’s not like the team was just sold to a different rich guy who wanted a new coach. The guiding hand, the man who made the franchise what it was and instituted its philosophy for *fifty years* is gone. That’s going to send ripples everywhere including the product on the field.
And a lot of those players on the field who were under Cable & Hue are two years older and two years less effective now…Seymour, Kelly, Huff, etc.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:25 am
You should probably get that checked out. lol
October 4th, 2012 at 7:26 am
How you gonna make any wholesale changes if your team is off on days off?
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You make the decisions while they’re gone then tell them “this is how it’s gonna be” when they show up for work on Monday.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Was encouraged to see a lot of players are going to hang around Oakland and keep working. That’s a good sign no one’s packing it in already
October 4th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Bob Marley Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Bcz24.
I think miscalculations have to include handing out some 20 million dollars in real money to bring back Seymour, Huff, Branch and Barnes and signing Bartell, Brisiel and every other veteran stopgag we plugged outside of Wheeler, we should have absorved the cap hit coming from releasing as much contracts as we could into this year’s cap, instead of spending real and cap money on a bunch of players that won’t be a part of our future.
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The problem with this statement is not understanding NFL Capology. We wouldn’t have saved much getting rid of these guys. Brisiel cost us 1.3m vs the cap, barnes 2m (although 1.3 of that is tied to a bonus he may not achieve) Branch 2.4m, Huff 4m this year. Seymour did a new deal as well, he only costs us 2.4m against the cap this year. I think most of these guys will be gone after this year as well. We couldn’t make all the cuts at once, because of bonus acceleration and cap hits for these cuts. They had to be spaced out.
Barnes, Seymour, Kelly, and Huff will most likely not be Raiders in 2013. If McClain continues to play half speed, add him to that list. Almost every guy McK signed this offseason were 1 year deals.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Bcz24,
Spot on. You’ve been on point lately!
This team is going to look very very different next year and that’s not a bad thing.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:31 am
As staunch as he was against changing offensive scheme and stying the course and being patient i’m encouraged that he’s now seeing what most of us already saw…it’s not working, and I don’t think he’s willing to be as “patient” as we thought by him admitting that EVERYTHING is up for review…even the zbs.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:34 am
496.DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:31 am
As staunch as he was against changing offensive scheme and stying the course and being patient i’m encouraged that he’s now seeing what most of us already saw…it’s not working, and I don’t think he’s willing to be as “patient” as we thought by him admitting that EVERYTHING is up for review…even the zbs.
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Allen is no fool.
My guess is the ZBS and Knapp stay for the whole season, but I’m positive Allen has said “Greg, you’re on notice from this week forward.”
I really think the changes we’ll see on both sides of the ball will come from personnel use more than anything.
More Reece, more Ausberry, more Pryor, less toss plays to McFadden on offense. More 3-4 on defense.
Again, that’s just all me guessing.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
I think the zbs will stay for a while but when its so obvious he will have to quietly strip the play calling from Krappy.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
obvious to a fan and a coach are 2 diffrent things!
October 4th, 2012 at 7:54 am
500th
October 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Seattle and Texas do just fine with the zbs.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:59 am
More Reece, more Ausberry, more Pryor, less toss plays to McFadden on offense. More 3-4 on defense.
Again, that’s just all me guessing.
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Pryor won’t suit anytime soon. He struggled against scrub defenses, with the exception of 4 plays. 2 prayers to Criner and 2 nice runs, everything else was as Pryor himself put ‘dog crap’.
We don’t have the personal to run the 3-4 effectively. No 3-4 DE edge rushers, no NT, not enough LBs… thats what you haven’t seen it much yet.
Saunders with have some input to get McFadden moving. Not even Knapp is going to watch Dmac flounder away at 2.4ypc. I think you will see more power schemes. Not a full switch, but we won’t be exclusively zbs anymore either.
Our receivers need to start getting open too. Its not like palmer is standing around missing open guys… guys just aren’t open.
Don’t jump off a cliff when we lose to Atlanta. They are in the discussion for the best team in the NFL right now, they are even better at home, and we are awful on the road, particularly in the east coast. We have 3 very winnable games after that with Jax, TB and KC on the docket. I tend to agree with JFB that 4-4 at the halfway point is very reasonable.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Ryan may challenge for van Brocklin’s single game passing record that’s stood since the 50’s.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Turducken Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 6:37 am
btw, welcome back Klas!
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Thanks! Klas had run in with the law. Got off with community service!
October 4th, 2012 at 8:03 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Ryan may challenge for van Brocklin’s single game passing record that’s stood since the 50’s.
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He probably could do it.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:03 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Seattle and Texas do just fine with the zbs.
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…but McFadden plays here so I care not about The Hags and Schab’s sissys
October 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Looking at records. Klas sees that Billy Volek had 492 against Raiders in 2004.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_single_game.htm
October 4th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Klas needs to move to Chicago. Giant pot field found in city:
http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-police-1-500-pot-plants-city-075850659.html
October 4th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Klas wat up? Didn’t take long what did u do? A daring escape in the middle of the night? Dig a tunnel with your cafeteria spoon?
Anyway, welcome back! BTW what were you in for?
October 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Arkraider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Klas wat up? Didn’t take long what did u do? A daring escape in the middle of the night? Dig a tunnel with your cafeteria spoon?
Anyway, welcome back! BTW what were you in for?
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Got busted for smoking weed with minors.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Tsk, tsk with minors? Hope they werent too young. Anyway that didn’t take long. The drug laws over there can’t be too bad?
October 4th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Arkraider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Tsk, tsk with minors? Hope they werent too young. Anyway that didn’t take long. The drug laws over there can’t be too bad?
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Police lacked proper warrant. Klas got lucky.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Atlanta is really tough. Even when they don’t play that good they win.
How to stop Matty Ice?
It was amazing to me how bad our defense was against Denver. Denver receivers were WIDE OPEN almost all the time.
It stinks when you have a team at 3rd and 6 and you don’t think…you KNOW it’s an easy play for them to get the first and the only thin you’re hoping for is that you can get to Manning by some miracle or that they make a mistake.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Arkraider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Tsk, tsk with minors? Hope they werent too young. Anyway that didn’t take long. The drug laws over there can’t be too bad?
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They were 16 and 17. Klas don’t understand why you have to be 18 to smoke up but only have to 15 to be sexy legal.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Last week at Denver, the Raiders had 56 yards, with Darren McFadden getting bounced around after gaining 34 on 13 carries: “I thought we made good strides last week.”
He thought the running game looked more efficient, “we just didn’t have any break out runs, but we did have more consistency,”
“Unfortunately for us, we got into a game where we had to start playing catch up and had to throw the ball more in that last quarter and a half,” Knapp said. “The improvements that we had made in the first two and a half quarters we weren’t able to use as much in the last quarter and a half because we had to start throwing the ball.”
As far as McFadden, who has 201 yards after having 468 through four games last season, Knapp said, “Darren’s doing well. He is running very hard and I have been very pleased with that I have seen so far. So he is doing fine.”
-Knapp
October 4th, 2012 at 8:24 am
definition of stupidity= doing things that fail over and over again expecting different results….
October 4th, 2012 at 8:25 am
What makes the blowout by Denver so demoralizing was it SHOULD have been even worse. They had one sure score that they didn’t get when Thomas fumbled toward the end zone.
It’s different from the Bears thumping Dallas. Dallas just had the turnovers and outside of that were moving the ball well and get the Bears reasonably in check.
In our game, we were just beaten at every level. Couldn’t stop ANYTHING they were doing. It was so pathetic to watch.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I haven’t been on the “fire Knapp” bandwagon giving up on the run v Denver making the playcalling obvious never a good move and we haven’t force fed the run even when it’s not effective ala Hue which would eventually start to work. Maybe our O looked good v Pitt because Knapp relied heavily on CP and CP ran a lot of no huddle so basically in spite of Knapp. I wonder what Raider Riff and other Knapp supporters think….
October 4th, 2012 at 8:46 am
shm
October 4th, 2012 at 8:48 am
lucky to go 4-12
October 4th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Instant reactions from back when Knapp was re-hired:
137.DKnight007 Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Interesting. I wonder how you Knapp haters from a few years ago and Allen lovers will feel about Knapp coming back and changing the O system…AGAIN!
DKnight007 Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I find it hard to believe Gregg Knapp would come back.
If he does…at least he will have a legit shot with Palmer at QB ahead of JaBustas and Al not being around anymore.
However, the Raiders may go back to the ZBS system exclusively? Hope not…they need to mix up the blocking schemes like they have done the past two seasons.
Seymour Bush Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Knapp’s a Bay Area guy and Rick Dennison is the OC there. Kubiak won’t stand in his way. Plus Knapp is a good QB coach.
RaiderDuck Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I was never a Knapp hater, because we never saw Knapp’s offense. Even after Lance left, it was still Lance’s offense with Lance’s personnel. Knapp couldn’t do much at that point.
DKnight007 Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
I will tell you.
IF Greg Knapp returns as the OC here under Allen, things will get quite interesting, if the offense regresses from what was achieved the last two years.
I like Knapp as a coach, but it’s going to depend if he plays to the strengths of his players skills on offense, like what Hue did or if he sticks to what he knows, which is a ZBS West Coast style offense or he goes with a Dennison style with ZBS running, and play action and roll outs.
I still want to see trapping, pulling , power blocking and counters when it comes to OLine run blocking.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:49 am
We were 2-14 in 2006, and a lot of fans wanted to make no changes whatsoever in upper management. Let’s give this system a few years.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:49 am
JB Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Not happy with Knapp as OC over Saunders. The offense wasn’t broken so why fix it. Just needed a couple of tweeks on the O-line, DMac to stay healthy & the injuries to be reduced. Saunders would have called a smarter grouping of calls as compared to hue’s record. Changing the offense is a bad decision. If they go back to ZBS, they will fail miserably. Just saying…
JB Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Not keeping Saunders, at least for this upcoming year, was Allen’s first rookie HC mistake.
In my mind, he should have spent most of his time & effort focused on the D and then do whatever to the O the following year.
Knapp’s background does NOT match up with our current offensive personnel. Just a bad decision for change IMO.
Seymour Bush Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
The Texan Offense in 2010 after he arrived was 3rd overall, 4th in passing, 7th in rushing. It was Rick Dennison’s lst year in Houston as well. Something tells me some of the playcalling was done by Knapp.
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Oh crap! Knapp! This is getting worse and worse.
We SUCKED on offense with him as offensive coordinator!
WTF are we doing here? Why can’t we keep a good offense and build the defense. It’s like 1 step forward…1 step back…maybe 2 steps back.
Just Win Baby Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Knapp? Really? Good grief. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:51 am
Whoever our OC is, I knew it wouldn’t be Saunders, I am confident they will score more points than Hue’s offense last year, without the turnovers, and of course the penalties.
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:23 am
I’ve always said that we never should have let Knapp go to Seattle in the first place. By the end of 2008, the offense was humming and he had JaMarcus playing very well. Even during the bad games, he and JR were joined at the hip after every offensive series. I think he did a hell of a job here. Trading he and John DeFillipo out for Buddy Whackit and Ted Tollner was a mistake that cost JR and Cable their jobs.
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:07 am
Greg Knapp for OC?
he’s a bit too conservative for me. I understand Dennis Allen expressing interest, but to offer him the job already? who was he competing against?
to be fair … GK was saddled with JaMarcus Russell last time around
bcz24 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:13 am
His offense wasn’t very conservative in Houston. It WAS here, but they had to limit the playbook to about 30 plays for Russell. I think it will be a LOT different with the weaponry we have now.
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
Greg Knapp Zone Blocming scheme once again LMBO!!!!!
That is what I call change! Get back Knapp!!!!
I see 7 wins MAX this year. If you all think this is an upgrade from Saunders or even Hue Jackson, good luck.
This team will be a rebuilding joke once again!
Marley Bob Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.
The Big Banana Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:39 am
Bunch ‘a chicken littles in here last night and this morning.
Dmoney Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:54 am
McFadden never ran will until we got rid of the ZB scheme and went to the power scheme. Palmer has no experience with the WC offense. Knapp has never real been that great as an OC. This hire is disappointing. Saunders experience and track record as OC is way superior to Knapp.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:59 am
Knapp?
Say what????
This is a joke right?
What’s next, Wink Martindale for DC?
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:01 am
Knapp is a ZBS guy. McFadden does not play well behind that type of line. He’s not a one-cut guy.
And his offenses have been really mediocre to bad.
Why hire this guy except that they’re old buddies?
Wrong hire man. He’s not innovative. He’s not fast paced moving offense.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:02 am
This news is disheartening……zone blocking system and Knapp?
Might as well trade McFadden I guess.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:08 am
Bummer….Allen is killing his own coaching legacy right off the bat with this hire.
Well, who will be the next head coach of the Oakland Raiders?
SaintKaufman Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:36 am
Good hire. Everybody settle down.
Totally different roster and circumstance than ‘07-’08.
We’re built for running the ball. And wait till you see what Palmer can do with play action on a regular basis. I don’t expect this to be a dink and dunk O anymore!
lefty12 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:57 am
LOL,knew this would happen.Everyone having panic attacks because DA didn’t hire ‘their’ guy as OC .The same will happen when the DC is announced.Knapp wasn’t conservative last year.When he was here before and the bust was QB people used to complain that he didn’t run the ball often enough and let the bust throw too much.Knapp is a highly respected NFL coach.Let’s give him a chance now that we have NFL caliber players before throwing him under the bus.
Method To My Madness Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
Raiders will win 6-7 games max in 2012….Knapp is a pxssy zbs west coast offensive guy…how does that fit with Robert Carson Palmer?…..Dennis Allen fk you and Reggie McKenzie fk u too….u both are losers and won’t win a prize in a cracker jack box
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
The Knapp hiring is a huge downer. I was getting pretty excited about coach Allen and the new regime, but this decision is like a kick in the gut. Knapp was just awful here, and I don’t see anything on his resume since then that inspires any confidence that he is suddenly a good coordinator. Our only hope is that they keep Saunders around for when Knapp falls on his face like last time.
Fukin bummer.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Sorry MR, but we can call ourselves a defensive team all we want, but the fact of the matter is that 90% of the bums on defense who stunk it up last year will still be here due to cap issues and no draft picks, so the likelihood of us actually being good enough on defense that we can allow our offense to turn to schyt and still win games is pretty slim.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Fk it, what’s done is done. Just have to live with it and hope for once in his life Knapp can call a good game since he is the man on offense with our HC leaving it completely up to him to get the job done.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am
It could be our players failing, and not the system, considering the system is used by good teams around the league.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Dakota, it’s interesting that while fishing for comments correctly predicting Knapp would be bad, you didn’t see mine, where I said I wasn’t comfortable with Knapp being the top offensive guy in the organization.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am
It could be our players failing, and not the system, considering the system is used by good teams around the league.
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the system may not suit our personell, same O did well last year in a diff systerm
October 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am
It could be our players failing, and not the system, considering the system is used by good teams around the league.
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id but that if not for last year.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
October 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Klas, r8eray is wondering why Klas got off so early?
October 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Perhaps the solution is to replace the personnel. It’s not like Reggie inherited a winning team.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:08 am
krappy knappy,
what happened last year, aside from the Raiders failing to have a winning season, again? It’s not like Reggie inherited a winning team. Can you blame him for wanting to blow everything up here and start over? Considering this is a franchise that hadn’t made the playoffs, or even had a winning season, in a decade, it seems it would be the sensible option.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:11 am
I can’t believe that after 4 games, I’m happy for a bye week.
I can’t believe that after a decade of embarrassing, horrible football, the Raiders appear to be worse than ever — a team with no strengths and weaknesses everywhere.
I can’t really believe that I have no hope for NEXT year because there are too many holes to fill. How are we going to get new DTs, new CBs, new LBs, new Gs? Who will play QB in 2014?
I do know that I can’t bear to watch McFadden ducking his head and getting 2 yards anymore or opposing WRs uncovered in the middle of the field on 3rd downs.
Reggie, I hope you know what you’re doing, man. We are dying out here.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The 2006 team didn’t win their first game until week 7. This team is already better than that team, by default, based on what we know at this point of the season. So, clearly this team is not “worse than ever”.
2006 Raiders
Owner/GM: Al Davis
Head Coach: Art Shell
Vertical offense, man defense.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The 2006 team didn’t win their first game until week 7. This team is already better than that team, by default, based on what we know at this point of the season. So, clearly this team is not “worse than ever”.
2006 Raiders
Owner/GM: Al Davis
Head Coach: Art Shell
Vertical offense, man defense.
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Maybe by numbers but not in reality, Shell took over for Norv and the 05 team was bad…we went from bad to worse,last year we were contenders all season,yeah Hue missed a lot but look at the cards he was dealt. This time we went from contenders to full on first pick mode…that is not progress.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:27 am
True, the 2006 team was worse than this team. It had maybe the worst offense in pro history.
So this team isn’t the worst.
But how can we be so much worse than last year? How can there be no running game? No pass rush? We can’t even block for punts. It’s mind-boggling.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am
We can stop the run…ours! LOL!
October 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Last year we were contenders… at 8-8!!
Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!
We were out of playoff contention even before the final game.
How are you a “contender” when you’re not even contending for a playoff spot in the final week of the season?
You want to talk about hands being dealt..
Look at the hand Reggie McKenzie was dealt.
2011: 8-8 (not a winning season, for those who don’t understand)
2010: 8-8 (not a winning season, for those who don’t understand)
2009: 5-11
2008: 5-11
2007: 4-12
2006: 2-14
2005: 4-12
2004: 5-11
2003: 4-12
Reggie McKenzie was “dealt” a franchise that hasn’t so much as put up a winning season in a decade!
I don’t blame him for cleaning house. And it may take years to show results, but it must be done. Because the Oakland Raiders haven’t had a team since the Gannon days.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:33 am
RaiderfaninNY,
We weren’t that good last year.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Fire bottom lip now.Already he has set us back 3 years.Goofy lookin skunk ape. ooo ooooo ooooooo aaaaaa aaaaa.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
526.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Dakota, it’s interesting that while fishing for comments correctly predicting Knapp would be bad, you didn’t see mine, where I said I wasn’t comfortable with Knapp being the top offensive guy in the organization.
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I saw your comments where you said the selection of Knapp didn’t matter because this was a defensive team now….I just didn’t find it very interesting MaddenRaider.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am
8-8 and is much better than 1-15. Do you get it?
October 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Oh, in other words, Dakota, you only quoted my comment which suited your agenda, instead of quoting everything I said. That sounds about right. Spinmaster.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Looking at the schedule. I’m not hoping for much.
Raiders vs Falcons = L
Jaguars vs Raiders = W (Still not much hope)
Raiders vs Chiefs = L
Buccaneers vs Raiders = W (Still not much hope)
Raiders vs Ravens =L
Saints vs Raiders = L
Raiders vs Bengals = L (We’ll blow it in the end)
Browns vs Raiders = L
Broncos vs Raiders = L
Chiefs vs Raiders = W (We Seem to win here sometimes.)
Raiders vs Panthers = L
Raiders vs Chargers = L
Even the W’s will come only if they play all 4 quarters. I’ll gladly come back and eat my words. This is going to be a long, long season.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:33 am
RaiderfaninNY,
We weren’t that good last year.
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You really think the O has progressed? You think Knappy and his BS-ZBS can hold a candle to Hue’s O?
October 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Knappy,
I said we weren’t good last year. That’s what I said. And it is a fact.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Raiderbuck’s out. Good to know ya, bud. Go try on a niners jersey.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
542.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Oh, in other words, Dakota, you only quoted my comment which suited your agenda, instead of quoting everything I said. That sounds about right. Spinmaster.
Nothing you say is worth quoting.Easily the Dumbest guy on this blog.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Well we look like world beaters then compared to now.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I couldn’t post them all Madden Raider…..the archives are open to the public….post whatever you would like about what you said regarding the Knapp hiring.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am
I believe in the Oakland Raiders, and the coaches who were hired by the GM who was hired by the owner who Al Davis left the team to. I bleed silver and black. I’m never giving up. Raiders or nothing. F@#@ the haters.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Raiderbuck’s a hater. Who else?
October 4th, 2012 at 9:42 am
How can there be no running game? No pass rush? We can’t even block for punts. It’s mind-boggling.
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1) Re-done offensive line that can’t execute the ZBS
2) Shaughnessy was way overrated and Seymour and Kelly seem have to crossed into “gas tank is empty” mode and Houston was never a good pass rusher.
3) Fire Hoffman. No Rock Cartwright hurts too.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
We haven’t so much as looked like “world beaters” since 2002. The 2011 team was 7-4 at one point, fell to 8-8. Inexcusable. Jackson was exposed. And when you get hired as a GM to a team that hasn’t had a winning season in a decade, you’re cleaning house, not building on mediocrity.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
I stayed up way to late last night watching MSNBC….I loved watching Chris, Rachel, Ed, Lawrence et al while their heads exploded.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am
553.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
We haven’t so much as looked like “world beaters” since 2002. The 2011 team was 7-4 at one point, fell to 8-8. Inexcusable. Jackson was exposed. And when you get hired as a GM to a team that hasn’t had a winning season in a decade, you’re cleaning house, not building on mediocrity.
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Yep.
The perceptions of Raider fans have changed to such a degree that a very mediocre team like last year’s seems to be world beaters when compared to the chuckleheaded squads that preceeded it.
A lot of people think last year’s 8-8 was the floor for that squad. I think it was the ceiling.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Dakota, somehow it doesn’t surprise me you stayed up late last night and watched political news on a cable news network.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Man, that sucks about that A’s player who’s baby died only 23 hours after it was born.
I can’t imagine the pain he and his wife are going through right now.
Playoffs are probably not really that important for him at this point.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:51 am
There is nobody outside of the Raider Nation who thinks the 2011 Raiders were “contenders”.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Try Some Reality Says: Wasn’t referring to you.========Re: how trolls roll. Sorry for the misinterpretation. Got it now.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Man, that sucks about that A’s player who’s baby died only 23 hours after it was born.
I can’t imagine the pain he and his wife are going through right now.
Playoffs are probably not really that important for him at this point.
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Terrible.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:33 am
RaiderfaninNY,
We weren’t that good last year.
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I think it “FELT” like we were good, just because I remember celebrating a 1st Fu*kin Down when Russell was playin. Or I’d start clapping for a louzy completion. Last year at least we could sustain some drives and put a few series’ together, had a couple deep connections to DMO17 that got us all roaring. I think with me -at least- my sense of what “is good” was a little warped because I was comparing the Raiders of LAST year, to the Raiders of last DECADE, and NOT comparing them to the other teams in the league.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Sorry, but “sustaining drives” does not make you a “contender” or even a good team in this league. Lots of bad teams can sustain drives. It’s winning games that count. And Reggie McKenzie inherited a team that hadn’t had a winning season in a decade. Cleaning house was clearly in order. I don’t care if it takes years to show results. I’m glad Reggie’s doing it. It’s good for the team long term. It’s good for the Raiders long term.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 am
C’mon man!!!!
Knapp?!?!
I thought D Allen wanted an EXPLOSIVE offense!!
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:23 am
D Allen said he wanted an explosive offense. Knapp is known for being a conservative OC.
Makes no sense to me.
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Saunders taking over by week 5!
Print that!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:02 am
O !!!
whats up my brother ??
October 4th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Saunders taking over by week 5!
Print that!
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We can only hope brother!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I’m a big Palmer guy, but I just saw a disturbing stat on ESPN.
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %
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Remember, that can be him throwing the ball away, or the receivers being in the wrong spot.
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want an even worse stat?
in 110 nfl starts palmer has tossed a shockingly bad 118 picks!!!!!
palmer leads the nfl in picks returned for touchdowns since 2005
ouch
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Obviously im trying to be fair or I wouldn’t have posted that “disturbing” stat on Palmer, but I think it also bears mentioning that Brett Favre in 298 games as a starter threw 336 int’s.
I don’t think anyone would call future hall of famer Brett Favre “shockingly bad”.
Favre has the wins though…he also has had much better teams to play with…and receivers.
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this is why I am different i guess, i would call farve shockingly bad, except I cant go that far because he has a trophy.
I will say that his ridiculous int total is beyond hideous, and make him one of the single most over rated athletes in any sport. i have never been a favre fan…at all.
In fact i would take palmer over farve. Most of farves playoff runs ended on farve bone headed picks. His interception totals keep him out of the elite category th way that I see it. His super bowl jewelery redeems his resume, along with his longevity and offensive records make him a hall of famer. However Farve is not in my top 10 greatest qb list
October 4th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Here’s the evalutation…
Fire Knapp.
Get rid of the ZBS.
Use Pryor.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Yeah Sully. I’m glad it happened too. I just sayin I had to come back to planet earth and actually step outside to look at things. I agree they weren’t THAT good last year. I think Fan-hood and Homer-ism was overriding my objectivity. Now I look at them and thing…..”Jesus, they got ALOT of work to do.” Sh*t, next year may be somewhat of a wash too….But when you look at how long we’ve waited, and been wondering aimlessy, a couple more years isn’t long to wait to “Right the ship” and become a perrenial Powerhouse again.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Bcz24….spare the “people don’t understand capology” with me, I understand it well….we added money into this and next year’s cap instead of shedding as much as we could have, not to mention getting Mark Davis to hand out around 20 million of real money to those players…you say they won’be around next year, well releasing them next offseason will count vs the 2013 cap instead of this one…I can’t type properly by the phone so later.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Long Live The ODB!!!
Man….. I’m gladim smoking again. 1-3 without weed would have killed me.
How washout vacation? Plenty of toothless women in NC?
October 4th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Check out Rolando practicing his jogging skills http://twitter.yfrog.com/obxfvxluj
October 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Glad I’m
Was Your
Sorry
Green Party Rules!!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Mistic1 guess what?
Palmer is not only our QB this year but next year too so get in line with it already!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
BTW, 0bama’s still going to win the election. He relates to the American people more than Romney does. I remember in ‘04 Bush came out flat in the first debate, too, Kerry was crisp and winning every argument. We know what happened in November.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
It is probably toss up between Mark Davis and Jags owner for worst hair of NFL owners:
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/article/media_slots/photos/000/524/570/hi-res-136321945_crop_exact.jpg?w=340&h=243&q=85
October 4th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Carson Palmer leads the league in percentage of incompletions thrown, that are due to being off target. 64.3 %===========After last week he probably has the all time record for accurate pass completions while getting pasted by some 280 lb. guy.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Mistic1 guess what?
Palmer is not only our QB this year but next year too so get in line with it already!
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Maybe next year. Won’t be surprised if Reggie trades for Flynn.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Flynn > Wilson > Pryor
October 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
We might see Matt Flynn in the second half this week if Russell Wilson keeps up his recent play.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:23 am
$90 billion on green energy?!?!
I need free health and free upper level education you MFers!!!
That’s why I don’t vote.
Eff these monkeys! They don’t work for us. They work for Corp America.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
They are going to keep Palmer around long enough to develop TP6.
We are set at QB for a while I would focus more on who we will be drafting to fill other needs like DE DT MLB CB I would think that CB would be priority number 1!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Glad I’m
Was Your
Sorry
Green Party Rules!!
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LMAO !!! looks like you nedd to fire another one up !!!
vacation was great but i think i drank all the Miller lite in the outter banks !!!and he11 yeah plenty of women to go around !!! (with and without teeth !!!) lol lol lol
October 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
*need…. might need to fire up another one myself !!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
This offseason i got ripped for saying shaunessy was way overated and not a passrusher… glad we’re all up to speed.. now move him to LDE.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I keep on telling you guys that the president will win big in November because of Wall Street.
I am voting Independent so I could care less but its obvious to me who will win and look at the Betting lines or (Vegas odds) and you ask yourself why is the current president so heavily favored to win? I have an article that will explain it if anyone is interested.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Mistic1 guess what?
Palmer is not only our QB this year but next year too so get in line with it already!
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get in line with what?
I dont know how long he will be here however he isnt the long term future, more of a short term stop gap.
Even if he did survive next off season, the raiders will have a youngster that they groom to replace him, simply based on palmers age and obtuse fit for the horizontal stretch wco the raiders want to employ.
He is enjoying a bit of a resurgence, it happens to a lot of players. Soon they crash back to earth because you cant sustain it for several years as age will no longer permit it.
Think kerry collins, neil odonell, stan humphries, mark rypien. all guys that experienced a bit of a comeback in their careers, but it only lasted for a season or 2.
Give the man credit though, learning a new offense and taming his own nature and ahbit of forcing passes. The dink and dunk knapp scheme is doing wonders for palmer and extending his career so far this year. not outstanding but relatively decent, and that is a huge improvement over that trash we saw last year.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Our Gov: we can’t offer free health and upper level education without increasing taxes, but we can afford wars, subsidies, bailing out banks, and $90 billion on green energy.
BASTARDS!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
“Scott Bleier, the founder of Create Capital, visited Breakout to debunk another bit of conventional wisdom. “O bama has been the friendliest President to banks and big oil in history,” he states in the attached video. “Wall Street secretly loves O bama.”
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/wall-street-secretly-loves-o bama-bleier-141915787.html
October 4th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
It is probably toss up between Mark Davis and Jags owner for worst hair of NFL owners:
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/article/media_slots/photos/000/524/570/hi-res-136321945_crop_exact.jpg?w=340&h=243&q=85
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Mark still takes the cake for worst mop.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Carson doesnt help our stretch play at all.. no threat to run himself…. and tp is totally unproven. We need to play tp all yr.. just so we know who to draft in the 1st.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I have been telling you guys for months now that there is no way Wall Street is going to let the president lose.
They have not seen these kinds of gains since 1952.
They may not agree with his policies but they love money a lot more.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:32 am
LOL ODB.
This tree burning session has been dedicated to all my green party brothers. Thank you for your support.
Vote Green in 2016!!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
666,
At least we have the Lakers right?
October 4th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
We haven’t so much as looked like “world beaters” since 2002. The 2011 team was 7-4 at one point, fell to 8-8. Inexcusable. Jackson was exposed. And when you get hired as a GM to a team that hasn’t had a winning season in a decade, you’re cleaning house, not building on mediocrity——
I said in comparison to how we look now,straight up…hue’’s O compared to Knapps? Im rolling with Huey.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jags owner is Indian, right?
October 4th, 2012 at 10:36 am
573.Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Mistic1 guess what?
Palmer is not only our QB this year but next year too so get in line with it already!
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I like Palmer, and by no means does my next statement mean I agree with Mistic but:
Palmer won’t be our QB next year. His contract is up, and I don’t see Reggie signing him to a long term extension on the heels of a 6-10 season, whether it is Palmers fault or not.
Pryor is never going to be our starting QB. Take away the 4 good plays against Detroit and you see exactly what you had in Pryor. I don’t want to hear anything about ‘being a rookie’ ‘not having experience’ or any of that. Pryor looked like a high school QB playing against the 2000 Ravens, and that was against practice squad and scrub teamers. Jamarcus Russell is a better option a QB than Pryor is.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Dakota
I wish I was a basketball fan.
Maybe you could help me get started I guess the Lakers are as good as any team to follow.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
“Jags owner is Indian, right?”
Pakistani
October 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Give the man credit though, learning a new offense and taming his own nature and ahbit of forcing passes. The dink and dunk knapp scheme is doing wonders for palmer and extending his career so far this year. not outstanding but relatively decent, and that is a huge improvement over that trash we saw last year.=================You came close to being insightful there. Most of us(yes I mean most of us based on this blog and S&BPride and Tafurs) DID NOT SEE TRASH last year. Close to the best QB in the league while still in contention over the last 4-5 games. Check it with your precious stats. Win column sucked, not Palmers fault. Last game against the Dolts says it all.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jags owner is Indian, right?
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He’s from the other side of the mountain, Pakistan
October 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jags owner is Indian, right?
——
Born in Pakistan. Were his parents Indian?
October 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Palmer won’t be our QB next year. His contract is up,”
Not sure but I thought he was signed through 2014 I am going to go check this out….
October 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I thought cp3 had a couple more yrs on his deal.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jags owner is Indian, right?
—–
Pakistani. That’s like calling you a 49er fan.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raiders sign LB Brad Van Pelt
October 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Shahid Khan was born in Pakistan and moved to U.S. when 16. He went to University of Illinois!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Then he became a porn star and changed his name to Ron Jeremy
October 4th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Joetoronto Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raiders sign LB Brad Van Pelt
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Ths guy? He died 3 years ago!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Van_Pelt
Must be his son.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Joetoronto Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raiders sign LB Brad Van Pelt
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Ths guy? He died 3 years ago!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Van_Pelt
Must be his son.
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Naw man, just kidding. Brad Van pelt played with Reggie McKenzie
October 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am
If you want to rebuild right you have to commit to it… a franchise qb is the mvp. We need to find ours… try tp. if he stinks, and we lose, we get the 1st pick…. aka geno smith..
October 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Where is the guy I told to take Vincent Jackson over DMO last week in his FFL league?
I do not remember who it was but however, for future reference, do not listen to JFB, when it comes to FFL.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Thx guys.
A Pakistani NFL team owner.
I love this country!!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
602.Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Palmer won’t be our QB next year. His contract is up,”
Not sure but I thought he was signed through 2014 I am going to go check this out….
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You are correct. I did not realize Reggie did a new deal for Carson.
His next 2 years are prohibitively expensive… to the tune of 17 and 19 million dollars ber year. I am certain he will be gone now. It will save us 6 million next year and 15 million in 2014 to get rid of him in the offseason.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Dakota
I wish I was a basketball fan.
Maybe you could help me get started I guess the Lakers are as good as any team to follow.
++++++
“IF” you have the time, join a FBBL.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Sports Illustrated football review on us, basically said Palmer’s recent restructure was a wink-wink between him and the organization that he has a 3 year window.
So the notion he is going to get benched anytime soon is comical.
He will start week 14, if we are 1-12.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
1 NATION
October 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Breaking News:
NWA going to Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Al Davis to give introduction speech via hologram.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jags owner is Indian, right?
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Pakistani. That’s like calling you a 49er fan.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
October 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Ah there he is right on cue…Hey JFB, who was that guy last week you gave disinfo to, regarding DMO v vjackson last week in FFL?
October 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I do not remember who it was but however, for future reference, do not listen to JFB, when it comes to FFL.
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I am feast and famine.
Last year I won Dell’s league, going 14-1.
This year so far, I am 0-4 and just beyond dreadful, lol.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
JFB, I will take you’ re answer on the go.
1 NATION
October 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Last year I won Dell’s league, going 14-1.
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Whoa…you were the “DON” last year…WOW
October 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
any way meeting time out…
1 NATION
October 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Not sure who it was, but I did say V Jax is a good start as well, due to Freeman keying on him in the red zone.
I thought D-Moore would have got more looks, but tough to do when you go 3 and out.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
When you look at the contracts that reggie has redone, huff, seymour, palmer… the writing is on the wall that these guys are all gone. Their future money is all in the form of salary and roster bonuses, with little tied up in signing bonus which gets us off the hook when we cut them… smart business there.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Start Raider defense this weak in FF. They have a favorable match up.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Pakistani/ American*
Good for him. This is one of the best (if not the best) place to get an education & get started.
I Love this country. God Bless America!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
When you look at the contracts that reggie has redone, huff, seymour, palmer… the writing is on the wall that these guys are all gone. Their future money is all in the form of salary and roster bonuses, with little tied up in signing bonus which gets us off the hook when we cut them… smart business there.
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REGGIE GONNA CUT THE FAT!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
615.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Sports Illustrated football review on us, basically said Palmer’s recent restructure was a wink-wink between him and the organization that he has a 3 year window.
So the notion he is going to get benched anytime soon is comical.
He will start week 14, if we are 1-12.
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Oh, no doubt Palmer starts all 16 games barring injury. IF anything, exceptional play by him loads the trade gun, versus just cutting him. I am certain he will not be a Raider in 2013 though.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I am certain he will not be a Raider in 2013 though.
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Depends on how the season ends.
Even if we go 6-10, if we go 4-2 down the stretch, they will bring him back and try to build off the mo.
Limp to the finish, and I agree that he will be traded (not released).
October 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Beer,Weed AND toothless women !!!
I Love this country. God Bless America !!
October 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
The o line is really trash for run blocking. Brisell carlisle and myers couldnt block arteries with an all bacon cheeseburger diet.
these guys are giving dmac no help. they have been ok at pass blocking but they are getting abused in the run game.
this coupled with the lack of a boot leg threat is killing dmacs career
October 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am
631 I be ODB II.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: myers couldnt block arteries with an all bacon cheeseburger diet.============You might be wrong a lot, but you can be funny.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
“Oh, no doubt Palmer starts all 16 games barring injury. IF anything, exceptional play by him loads the trade gun, versus just cutting him. I am certain he will not be a Raider in 2013 though.”
I am 100% positive he will be here next year he will take a pay cut to stay and help rebuild you can bank on it.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
LMAO ODB.
Btw, they have Good weed and beer in Europe too, and I’m sure you can find tooless women there too. lol
October 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Mistic,
the line’s giving Palmer no help either, right?
Surely the offensive line that isn’t helping DMAC isn’t helping Palmer either, correct?
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think i’ve figured it out.
The Raiders are God’s way of telling me to focus on other things if i’m looking for happiness.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I am 100% positive he will be here next year he will take a pay cut to stay and help rebuild you can bank on it.
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I wont argue that. We certainly aren’t paying him 17 million next year though.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I seriously thought the oline was gonna get DMac and Palmer hurt in the last game. Ugly.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
boxer orlando cruz admits to being gay, currently ranked # 4 by the wbo. he says “im a proud gay man”
i wish people would stop trying to prop up homosexuality as if anybody that admits they are gay is some sort of hero or great humanitarian.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think i’ve figured it out.
The Raiders are God’s way of telling me to focus on other things if i’m looking for happiness.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They don’t have beer, weed, or toothless women in Chicago?
October 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think i’ve figured it out.
The Raiders are God’s way of telling me to focus on other things if i’m looking for happiness
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DJ:
I think you are correct.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Anyone who stands up to oppression is a hero, gay or black.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
642.Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think i’ve figured it out.
The Raiders are God’s way of telling me to focus on other things if i’m looking for happiness.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They don’t have beer, weed, or toothless women in Chicago?
_________________________________________________________
I can vouch that they are all inferior to CA, except the toothless women…that needs a good case study.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Start Raider defense this weak in FF. They have a favorable match up.
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Klas your no more Norwegian than I am Aligator bro!…Does anybody know who this guys alternate handle is?
October 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Ban on gay marriage is a violation of civil rights. An openly gay person lives a more dangerous life than anyone today.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
646,
He’s Swedish Mikie.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Anyone who stands up to oppression is a hero, gay or black.
+++++++++
Hero? I wouldn’t go that far…I beat up a few bullies in my day..doesn’t make me a hero.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am
No way Johnny…Im not buying it for a second.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
LMAO ODB.
Btw, they have Good weed and beer in Europe too, and I’m sure you can find tooless women there too. lol
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Maybe get me some of those British women that look
like they havent see a dentist their whole life and have NO
idea what a orthodontist is !!!
October 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think i’ve figured it out.
The Raiders are God’s way of telling me to focus on other things if i’m looking for happiness.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They don’t have beer, weed, or toothless women in Chicago?
—
THAT must be what He’s trying to tell me.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
When you look at the contracts that reggie has redone, huff, seymour, palmer… the writing is on the wall that these guys are all gone. Their future money is all in the form of salary and roster bonuses, with little tied up in signing bonus which gets us off the hook when we cut them… smart business there.
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this is good info, these guys will need to do 2 things to stick for next year.
they will need to play out of their skulls, and be near the top at their positions by years end.
They will need to restructure if they are deemed worthy of keeping.
Big mck isnt as dumb as he is being made out to be….embrace the rebuild it is a process
October 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Albert Puss, you sure yanked sock puppet Klas out of the closet sooner than expected
Anyway Blog Brahs, HUGE weekend comin’ up for the Beeech Diggity Dawg
The dudes in Rasta Ganja are going wine tasting together, so I’ve got some time to focus on my solo rap project and 2 Kewl 4 Skool, my off the chain boy band
As you all know, 1 Direction just won 3 VMAs, so there’s a nice market now for 2K4S
Got start with the basics – scheduled a pube ‘do for 2:00 with Japanese styling legend Hashakiro Tawagawa
He’s calling this revolutionary new do “Rain over Bangkok” (get it, like jizz)
SHRIMP FRIED RICE IN THE HIZZY
October 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
MikieG Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am
No way Johnny…Im not buying it for a second.
—
I was just clarifying since u said Norwegian.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Its obvious that McKenzie is Irish, due to the Red Afro and Freckles…and he is a Mick…One ugly S.O.B that’s for sure. My wife saw a close up of him on T.V and began to weep…
October 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
MikieG Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:15 am
No way Johnny…Im not buying it for a second.
—
I was just clarifying since u said Norwegian.
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Ahh, yes, I think I just meant Nordic…Either way, this guy is a Swedish as Ghengis Khan..
October 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I meant state oppression, Mikie. Not a bully. Bully is social, not backed up by the state. You can call the police on a bully. A gay couple can’t call the police if a church won’t marry them. In fact, if a church marries them, they’re subject to prosecution. That’s oppression.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Fair Enough Sully.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Got start with the basics – scheduled a pube ‘do for 2:00 with Japanese styling legend Hashakiro Tawagawa
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You were able to secure the services of Tawagawa?
He’s a legend.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am
And, Mikie, you beat up “a few” bullies? You’d think after you’d beat up the first one, nobody else would mess with you. You must have really given signals that you were a wimp.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Hey, Anybody want to go climb The Grand Teton with me next July? Im going to put a super old Plunkett Jersey on the Summit. It’ll be classic, not sure how many years it’s gonna last though–
October 4th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am
And, Mikie, you beat up “a few” bullies? You’d think after you’d beat up the first one, nobody else would mess with you. You must have really given signals that you were a wimp.
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I moved alot growing up…and interjected in alot of altercations on the behalf of smaller, weaker folks…I played every sport imaginable growing up and had alot of friends who spent most of their time collecting comic books, and fearing for their lives.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Ban on gay marriage is a violation of civil rights. An openly gay person lives a more dangerous life than anyone today.
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not true sully,
There are openly gay people in every facet of modern american life, and they occupy every level of society. from poor to extreme wealth. the marriage issue is the only fight. They are allowed to freely participate in any venue, the right to any job, and so on.
Besides there are place in this world in 2012 where you can still buy black people fro the price of a carton of cigeretts.
never ever ever equate homosexual life style, with struggle ofr liberation.
In fact homosexuality is the ultimate expression of eurocentric and amerikkkan freedom. Think about it.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Usually when I see someone with a comic book, they look as if they’re “fearing for their lives”. You can see them shaking and everything…
October 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am
I’m sick of all the SCARY Talk by the Raiders. Where did the Anger and Utter disrespect for ALL!!!!!!!!!!! GO?
Tell the League what you plan to do, massacre and plunder, cheat, intimidate and run over the competition. Then when they attack…
((((-B.O.M.B.- ))))
Don’t give me this sucker tactic of tanking the season for ONE draft pick to turn into a MILLION!!! Dream On…. Cut the player who tanks, and show the true Pride of a Raider. The Allen guy, and Russ the bust, The stanford dud, and Knapp’tn crunch need to take a flying @ @ @ k…….
October 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am
There are more people on the planet that suck d1cks than dont… heterosexual males are the minority…
October 4th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Agree there is still slavery in the world. But not in America. Gay couples are banned from doing what most couples believe is the whole purpose of being a couple in the first place, marrying. Imagine if nobody in your family were married, Mistic, because a law banned black people from marrying. Imagine if the opinions behind those who pushed for such a ban argued that letting blacks marry would be like letting humans marry baboons.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I just can’t see how Krappy offense is all that difficult to learn. What’s there that’s so difficult? In particular for a 10+ year veteran Qb, that has probably seen just about everything that the league has to offer. This is not a rookie Qb.
Krappy’s “system” is not rocket science. I’d never give Palmer an out for learning a new offense, besides he’s not having, statistically a bad year, and people are right in pointing out that the dink and dunk suits him best and helps with his cut down on ints. The problem with Palmer is not his athletic ability or his work habits, it’s all about his winning genes, his ability to put the team on his back and carry it through. That’s why he’s the loser with the golden arm, 9-23 in his last 3 seasons. A definite negative return on the Raiders 43 million investment.
On the other hand, you have Dick Seymour that has played on 3 SB championships and a proven winner who should lead the defensive unit, but he doesn’t, and as some people here suggested, he’s a check collector who takes practices off, err gets excused, and takes way too many plays off. More than negative returns on this investment, mainly on his bad influence on the younger players.
Both of these players should take their “talents” somewhere else next season, the Raiders need the clean up to start with these two pieces of lead weight. I know neither one has much of a trade value left in them, so I’m sure we’ll have to keep putting up with them at least for the rest of the season.
As I said at the beginning of the season, why keep wasting a future value on Terrelle Pryor by keeping him inactive, when the team could not only use him on special plays, but also to help him develop and truly evaluate his potential. There are 5 rookie and 5 second year Qbs starting in the league, I know that Terrelle can and has the potential to be just as good or better than a those 10, if given a chance. If he’s not than the team should cut him loose.
What’s the difference on going 4-12 with Palmer or Pryor? At least we know what Palmer can do, but we need to know whether or not TP can compete at this level. My gut says he can, damn Corky and his crew who say he can’t.
Let the young man play.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
You generally don’t see someone with a comic book in high school because they are locked in their room reading and drawing…when they step outside of that comfort zone, and have to walk the halls of school–they become targets–and that is where I would step in. I never let anyone get picked on in my presence that can’t defend themselves…
October 4th, 2012 at 11:33 am
My gut says he can, damn Corky and his crew who say he can’t.
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His play speaks for itself.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
They are going to keep Palmer around long enough to develop TP6.
We are set at QB for a while I would focus more on who we will be drafting to fill other needs like DE DT MLB CB I would think that CB would be priority number 1
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Yea I agree cb should be #1 priority next season because teams come in thinking pass pass pass because of how unathletic Reggie the dictators boys are in Pat lee and joselio hanson are. When bartell and spencer come back it’s going to be no different because they’re old slow and unathletic as well. But in the offseason reggie should find a way to move seymour to free up some cap space and make a play on Aqib talib in free agency and use our 1st round on cb David Amerson in the draft. If reggie was smart he’d realize Mcclain was a lost cause and would find a way to get Larry Grant in here from san francisco to replace him because the guy makes plays and im sure he wouldn’t be that expensive. There you have th secondary back in tact with a real mlb playing behind the dline… But Reggie isn’t that smart so i doubt anything that good would happen.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:35 am
“poop”
October 4th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Wow, Mike, it’s amazing that for being the Charles Bronson of your school, you were still tested so often. You’d think people wouldn’t mess with you just by looking at you. After all, you had no comic book. That by default means you’re tough.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
LMAO ODB.
Btw, they have Good weed and beer in Europe too, and I’m sure you can find tooless women there too. lol
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Maybe get me some of those British women that look
like they havent see a dentist their whole life and have NO
idea what a orthodontist is !!!
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LOL
I was thinking the same the thing.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I meant state oppression, Mikie. Not a bully. Bully is social, not backed up by the state. You can call the police on a bully. A gay couple can’t call the police if a church won’t marry them. In fact, if a church marries them, they’re subject to prosecution. That’s oppression.
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Oh, that’s funny… BOO HOO Cry because you just figured out the STATE is a BULLY. But you don’t care if the state bullies people into adopting YOUR preference. Let’s talk about helathcare… that isn’t a RIGHT. It isn’t even a birthright. It’s just what you PREFER to be a right. So, hypothetically, you would be OK with national healthcare because everybody would be covered? Even if it mean the quality of healthcare is a dropoff for the people who held it previously? This is just one example. If you have a problem with the state… then you better advocate REMOVING it. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I have yet to see any ads on backpage for the price of a cartoon of cigarette’s, just yet.
I will keep hunting.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Well Sully, some people just don’t learn..you know that. Besides–everybody’s got a plan till they get hit.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I have yet to see any ads on backpage for the price of a cartoon of cigarette’s, just yet.
I will keep hunting.
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cartoons ??? is that another name for your car radio ??
October 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
LOL…a caaarr-toooooooon of cigs
October 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Teabag, anyone can drop out of affordable health care act for either religious beliefs or mere conscientious objection. So, it’s not oppression.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
And whoever says trade Dmac is an idiot. Because if you have a team that lacks talent you don’t get rid of the little and only bit of talent you have left, you build around it. Thats what the warriors did for many years under cohen and as you can see they only netted 1 playoff appearance in his time there with that method. When the lakers weren’t playing to expectations they didn’t trade Kobe, they made moves to get him some help with players like pau, odom and artest and they eventually got another championship. smh The Bafoonery I read on this site at times is mind boggling.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Seymour tells his colleagues to dont sweat the losses, have fun,…Allen in his presser yesterday tells the players to go relax on their bye and return with a smile on their face. Wow. Thank God for the A`s.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Got start with the basics – scheduled a pube ‘do for 2:00 with Japanese styling legend Hashakiro Tawagawa
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You were able to secure the services of Tawagawa?
He’s a legend.
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I don’t know if you heard, but Tawa was recently asked to compete in the Japanese genital fur styling version of Iron Chef, a huge honor for his family
But when he entered Pube ‘Do Stadium his pants unexpectedly fell down to reveal a completely ruined ‘do. Guess he sweated out all the gel backstage
Now he’s trying to repair his image in the States. He’s got a lot to prove with my pubes, obviously.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
The only people oppressed by law in America right now are gays, and Latinos in the state of Arizona. We’re talking by law, on paper. When it comes to veiled oppression, black people get the worst. And in many ways the latter is worse than the former. But on paper, gays and Latinos are oppressed as a law right now. And, just a few years ago, neither were. Shows you which direction this country is heading in. And the president didn’t support either of these laws, in case anyone wants to blame him.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
And whoever says trade Dmac is an idiot. Because if you have a team that lacks talent you don’t get rid of the little and only bit of talent you have left, you build around it.
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And that is very true. We let ALOT of talent walk this offseason, and did nothing to replace it. Sure we replaced the bodies…but we didn’t replace the talent level..so overall we downgraded at every position except SAM backer…and that is Debatable, because he is the polar opposite of Wimbley..Can stop the run, can’t rush the passer…
October 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Allen stresses again and again that what he wants more then anything is 3rd down conversions. His biggest most important thing he wants is to get a first down. Lol. Talk about high expectations.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Whos got their A`s tix?…got mine today.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Anyone with dark skin in Arizona, btw. I should add that black people in Arizona are facing legalized oppression, too, because many blacks can be mistaken for being Latino. So, to correct myself, black people in Arizona do face state sanctioned oppression, because they can be mistaken for Mexican immigrants in some instances. All people of color in Arizona are facing state sanctioned oppression right now. All gay people are facing state sanctioned oppression in states which ban gay marriage. Just 4 years ago, there were no laws in America which oppressed anyone based on skin color or sexual orientation. Now there is.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
MR,..there you go again, pretending to understand world issues and politics. You have never been able to fool anyone in here. Might want to try another subject dude, you only get laughed at here.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Agree there is still slavery in the world. But not in America. Gay couples are banned from doing what most couples believe is the whole purpose of being a couple in the first place, marrying. Imagine if nobody in your family were married, Mistic, because a law banned black people from marrying. Imagine if the opinions behind those who pushed for such a ban argued that letting blacks marry would be like letting humans marry baboons.
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Sully it is an insult to compare the gay marriage issue to slavery laws
Black people were hanged and executed simply for being in a relationship, let alone marriage which was outlawed, and this practice continued for 400 years!!!!!
This has never happened to gay amerikkka. besides plenty of people that help destroy black people for being in relationships, were also gay. in fact gay amerikkkans have been some of the most destructive toward my people historically speaking.
gay edgar hoover, george washington, albert pike, skull and bones, bohemian grove, and so on.
Please dont mix my people up with this foolishness it makes me want to puke.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
A guy coming into a sports blog to pretend to know world issues and politics,..clearly you have been laughed out of blogs that talk about those subjects every day. Everyone here sees right through you bud,..sorry.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Sullivan44
No oppression of Native Americans (Dakotas) and Arabs?
October 4th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I have yet to see any ads on backpage for the price of a cartoon of cigarette’s, just yet.
I will keep hunting.
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not funny jfb
my people are bought and sold as slaves, im not talking about your hooker obsession you trick
October 4th, 2012 at 11:55 am
686.MikieG Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
And whoever says trade Dmac is an idiot. Because if you have a team that lacks talent you don’t get rid of the little and only bit of talent you have left, you build around it.
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And that is very true. We let ALOT of talent walk this offseason, and did nothing to replace it. Sure we replaced the bodies…but we didn’t replace the talent level..so overall we downgraded at every position except SAM backer…and that is Debatable, because he is the polar opposite of Wimbley..Can stop the run, can’t rush the passer…
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Yea, you don’t get rid of players like that unless you have a for sure backup plan. He got rid of Murphy and now we’re dieng for Wr help, Got rid of DVD and now we’re dieng for cb help smh. His replacements are worse than the players he cut. You don’t cut players like that unless you have better players in mind.
Reggie Mckenzie= Matt Millen
Dennis Allen= Bobby Valentine
Mark Davis= Chris Cohan
October 4th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mistic youre a typical crybaby,…waaa waaa waaa,…oh my people,..sniff sniff,…waaa waaa waaa,…get another box of Kleenex you female dog.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
not funny jfb
my people are bought and sold as slaves,
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Can you point me in the right direction at least? That’s all I’m asking
October 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Mistic, it’s necessary to compare the gay marriage issue to slavery laws because in America today, slavery is illegal, while in some states gay people can’t marry. Black people in America are facing no oppression on paper today. There are laws designed to oppress black people, without a doubt. Like most drug laws. But the oppression is subtle, it’s not on paper. Gays are banned from marrying, ON PAPER. People who look like they could be Mexican immigrants, whatever the heck that means, are subject to citizenship checks in the state of Arizona. That is oppression, on paper.
4 years ago there were no laws in this country which oppressed anyone on paper. Now there are several. That’s profound.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
The only people oppressed by law in America right now are gays, and Latinos in the state of Arizona. We’re talking by law, on paper. When it comes to veiled oppression, black people get the worst. And in many ways the latter is worse than the former. But on paper, gays and Latinos are oppressed as a law right now. And, just a few years ago, neither were. Shows you which direction this country is heading in. And the president didn’t support either of these laws, in case anyone wants to blame him.
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wrong again sully
black people are only 3/5 human according to the us constitution, we have technically never been granted full citizenship, and a more accurate description would be a prisoner of war.
Emancipation did not free black people or give us the citizen status it only transferred ownership of black people from the hands of private individuals into the the hands of amerikkka the corporation.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Brahs, got high with a dude who helped install the jets in Dwight Howard’s hot tub, said they generate the same voltage as a 737
Guess you can easily fit 30 or 50 strippers with crabs in there, and the jets can clean every va-jay-jay
Gotta get an invite, you KNOW the Beeech Lawg will represent
PM PARTY PATROL N FULL EFFECT
October 4th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Catch you losers later,..one pretends to know world issues and politics,..the other one crying like a female dog about something he is clueless about,…Im off to see whats up at Mont Bleu,..have a nice day girls. Go A`s!
October 4th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Christians are oppressed too, lol… There are incidents where the ACLU leveraged arbitrary rulings against decor, statues and other religious symbolism. There are plenty of fascist laws in this country that people have to abide by and cannot opt out. Yes, you CAN opt out of affordable healthcare.. but you still have to PAY to do so. That is fascism. SS is fascist, can I opt out of that because I prefer to fund my Roth IRA?? No, I can’t…The DMV makes you pay surcharges on TOP of the fines for moving violations….Every month..this is in certain states. Why do people have to pay surcharges when no service is being rendered? That is fascism. Like I said, you are simply pointing out one facet and making it tantamount in your personal hierarchy. If you have a problem with the state, then attack the state all inclusively… Don’t cherry pick.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Is pres Hussein still bloody from the massive beat down he received from Romney? Completely clueless off the teleprompter!
hahahaha
October 4th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
not funny jfb
my people are bought and sold as slaves,
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Can you point me in the right direction at least? That’s all I’m asking
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racist piece of trash exposes his true feelings for black people again.
sad, but classic manifestation of your neanderthal dna.
evolve troglodyte
October 4th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Christians are not oppressed, anywhere in America. There are some Christians who have tried to force their religion onto public property and were rightly ordered to stop, but that is not oppression. That’s the courts protecting everyone’s right to freedom of religion, meaning, those who aren’t Christians as well.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mistic youre a typical crybaby,…waaa waaa waaa,…oh my people,..sniff sniff,…waaa waaa waaa,…get another box of Kleenex you female dog.
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it doesnt make me cry but it will make me grab a machete and murder the devil every chance i get. nat turner style
October 4th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
SS is fascist, can I opt out of that because I prefer to fund my Roth IRA??
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Not as an individual, but many municipalities allow employees (city of Rio Rancho, city of Clovis, NM as examples I work with) to decide whether to pay into SS or not, and many don’t and fund their 457 instead.
No choice on Medicare though. Everyone pays.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
0bama still wins in November because he related to the American people more. Romney represents what Americans despise today.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Oh BTW, slavery is NOT illegal… they just changed the game and the name. Giving a central bank control of the money supply AND monetary policy = slavery. They determine the value of your blood…
October 4th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
684.The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Got start with the basics – scheduled a pube ‘do for 2:00 with Japanese styling legend Hashakiro Tawagawa
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You were able to secure the services of Tawagawa?
He’s a legend.
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I don’t know if you heard, but Tawa was recently asked to compete in the Japanese genital fur styling version of Iron Chef, a huge honor for his family
But when he entered Pube ‘Do Stadium his pants unexpectedly fell down to reveal a completely ruined ‘do. Guess he sweated out all the gel backstage
Now he’s trying to repair his image in the States. He’s got a lot to prove with my pubes, obviously.
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Yes he does.
We’ve all heard the legendary names OF Asian pube lore….Kawakizake, Hiroshimadodo, Chang and Berghoff come to mind immediately; names which are etched on our souls for the great impact they’ve made in pube styling here in the states.
Yes, there’s many so called “legends” in the industry.
And then…there’s Tawagawa!
October 4th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Mistic, it’s necessary to compare the gay marriage issue to slavery laws because in America today, slavery is illegal, while in some states gay people can’t marry.
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please stop they dont compare.
Show me where millions of gay amerikkkans, have been murdered for being in relationships or executed by the decree of the law for 400 years?
I cant stress enough that some of the worst killers of black people historically have also been gay amerikkkans.
You want to destroy my people but then hide behind our struggle as if it is yoUr own too??!?!?
GTFOH
October 4th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Challengers tend to win the first debate.
Kerry bested Bush in their first debate.
Dukakis beat H.W. Bush in their first debate.
Exception is probably Bob Dole, but my goodness he was a default candidate put into lose and get it over with if there ever was one. Romney is the same, as a matter of fact. He’s just more ambitious. But he’s a default candidate the GOP never expected to win in the first place, nonetheless. All of the GOP stars dropped out from the get go. That was a clue. They know they’re not beating 0bama. But Romney’s a good salesmen and he put on a show last night. Wont’ matter. His opponent connects with the American people more. 0bama looked tired. Then again, America is tired. Romney seems to be the only one excited about corporations being a superpower in this country.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Lots of unions work with that as well, city of ABQ employees pay into SS, but Police and Fire opt out and do not pay into SS.
This saves the employer (the city) money on their portion of SS, so thus the public safety unions make the city pay a higher % of their pension contributions while working.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
You’re right, Mistic, there is no comparison between slavery and the oppression of gays today. Because slavery doesn’t exist. Oppression of gays does.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
The gowned clowns protecting our freedom, now that is a joke. State appointed yes men.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
SS is fascist, can I opt out of that because I prefer to fund my Roth IRA??
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Not as an individual, but many municipalities allow employees (city of Rio Rancho, city of Clovis, NM as examples I work with) to decide whether to pay into SS or not, and many don’t and fund their 457 instead.
No choice on Medicare though. Everyone pays.
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Lucky are those who live in those municipalities. In my state, I have never heard of this. But I’m nailed to the cross for it in my city that’s for sure. And Medicaid/Medicare. And other entitlements too, of course.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain, wherever you are, walk outside, find a stop sign, start taliking to it to prove a point it.
The so called bloggers will never understand however, the stop sign will.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Teabag and JFB,
Ever seen a elderly person thrive, or even survive with relative comfort, without social security?
October 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Mistic, it’s necessary to compare the gay marriage issue to slavery laws because in America today, slavery is illegal, while in some states gay people can’t marry.
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SLAVERY IS NOT ILLEGAL IN AMERIKKKA
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
13TH AMENDMENT
October 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
We are set at QB for a while I would focus more on who we will be drafting to fill other needs like DE DT MLB CB I would think that CB would be priority number 1
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so many holes. If only there were a way to finaggle another 1st rounder. Man, Detroit just had a slew of top 5 picks over the years.
Reggie said “I love my picks.” We need bodies man…..FRESH bodies.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic,
“Your people” HAD to be so incredibly thick-skinned and resilient for so many years, due to the crap they had to put up with.
So why on Earth are you such a touchy-feely, thin-skinned ninny?
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
my people are bought and sold as slaves….
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Your people? This type of statement would drive my Policitcs Professor from Nigeria crazy. Mistic you have more in common with your white neighbor down the street than Africans from Africa. Also, Africa is a continent, with many DIFFERENT PEOPLE with many different worldviews. Just like Europe is not a continent of all the same White Devils.
Who is doing the buying and selling in these countries?
FYI, I work in SF and guess what there are black gay people…worked with one that had the Dew of Mr. T. pretty cool.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Good afternoon peoples!
Go A’s!
Let’s get it!
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Slavery that doesn’t include prison labor, Mistic. I’m corrected.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
We are set at QB for a while I would focus more on who we will be drafting to fill other needs like DE DT MLB CB I would think that CB would be priority number 1
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so many holes. If only there were a way to finaggle another 1st rounder. Man, Detroit just had a slew of top 5 picks over the years.
Reggie said “I love my picks.” We need bodies man…..FRESH bodies.
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Whats up Brother???
We finish top 5 this year. if I am the GM I am listeing to offers to trade down.
We need to get into the 2nd rd this year.
First 5 raider picks will be Defensive players.
Best Defender on the board, when we are on the clock.
RDE
ILB
CB
NT
CB
October 4th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Teabag and JFB,
Ever seen a elderly person thrive, or even survive with relative comfort, without social security?
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Yes, my Grandparents. They still were recipients but they were well, well off even taking it out of the equation.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Ever seen a elderly person thrive, or even survive with relative comfort, without social security?
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Yes, some of the municipalities that I work with, DON’T PAY into SS, so thus, I have all kinds of clients without their quarters for Medicare and receive only the $255 survivors death benefit for a funeral from SS that everyone gets.
Very common, and they all have 7 figures in their retirement account(s). If they live until 102, they may be in trouble, they die at around 80, they were better off.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
So why on Earth are you such a touchy-feely, thin-skinned ninny?
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you gotta walk in his shoes, you can’t so you could never understand.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Sup DMAC?
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Mistic has a point though. I believe our prison system is an institution of slavery. Law enforcement as we know it progressed with the advancements of black people in civilization. The more black people expanded and prospered, the more police forces that were started. Just follow the timeline. Before emancipation of slavery, Americans considered the police a nuisance. The cop was right there with the bar tender. They were seen as servants. Slaves were freed, and that changed.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I wish my Raiders would make me proud like dem A’s.
Keep the infield dirt, make dem clowns earn it back!
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
worked with one that had the Dew of Mr. T. pretty cool.
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Never mind…
October 4th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Sup DMAC?
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Nothing much, another day, another dollar.
Proud of the A’s!
Wasup w/ u?
October 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Proud of the A’s!
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bosox can’t do anything right. we could of had homefiled thorught the Playoffs.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
So, teabag, your grandparents had good money in the first place.
JFB, 7 figures in their retirement accounts…I’m guessing your clients are loaded too.
How about old people on modest incomes? Ever seen one make it without social security?
October 4th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
731.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I wish my Raiders would make me proud like dem A’s.
Keep the infield dirt, make dem clowns earn it back!
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chuurch!
October 4th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
You’re right, Mistic, there is no comparison between slavery and the oppression of gays today. Because slavery doesn’t exist. Oppression of gays does.
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Not only does the 13th amendment clearly keep slavery legal, but you are also trying to restrict the definition of black people to the geographical area of the u.s
Sorry but my people are all over the world and in fact the native inhabitants of much of the world including india asia the americas and Europe.
slavery still is a reality for my people both here in the hells of north amerikkka and abroad.
stop it sully
October 4th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
In fairness, it’s a tuff gig to be the prez and the challenger has the advantage of being able to pick apart all the statements and promises the incumbent made 4 yrs. ago and say “why didn’t you do that”? Not taking into consideration that there are alot of things a prez cannot do on his own w/o help from congress etc.
That being said, Romney came on alot stronger than I would have thought last night.
The prez should win, but if I was him, I would think twice about debating Romney in that kind of format again.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
People that can save and budget money and don’t need to be on the gov’t teet, understand the benefit of a defined contribution plan over a defined benefit plan.
You can start taking distributions earlier, you can determine how much you get, and adjust it whenever you want, take lump sums out as opposed to a monthly check, etc.
Thankfully, Mitt and Paul Ryan will soon change over SS to a defined contribution plan, and everyone will have to put their little boy pants on and do it themselves.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Mistic, I agree with you in regards to defacto slavery still existing through the prison system. Good grief get that through your head, I only said it 20 times. But on paper, in America, there are no laws oppressing black people today, as there are oppressing Latinos in Arizona, and gays in states which ban gay marriage. I’m out. Have to get a haircut. Peace.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
++++++++
Whats up Brother???
We finish top 5 this year. if I am the GM I am listeing to offers to trade down.
We need to get into the 2nd rd this year.
First 5 raider picks will be Defensive players.
Best Defender on the board, when we are on the clock.
RDE
ILB
CB
NT
CB
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Sup Thec,
I agree we NEED defensive bodies in a bad way. Man, my head is spinning trying to think about who’s gonna be available and when vs. what we need…..
October 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
JFB, so then your answer is no. You don’t know anyone on a modest income who’s made it without SS.
Thanks for playing.
Later fellas.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Man I don’t do politics, but I do know this. After the schit our country has been going through. Whom ever was going to be elected after Bush (Dem or Rep) was going to need at least 8 years to get something done.
Period!
October 4th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
In case you wanted to get even more annoyed than you already are…Yahoo Sports listed Bones Fassel as one of their 3 Biggest Surprises of the NFL season so far:
“After winning two games all of last season, and just 15 of their previous 80 contests, the Rams are 2-2 and appear to be on the upswing under first-year head coach Jeff Fisher. One of the reasons behind the turnaround is the improvement in the performance of the Rams’ special teams units, which underwent a major overhaul in the offseason, beginning with the hiring of Fassel.
Fassel spent the previous three seasons with the Oakland Raiders, where he worked with perennial Pro Bowl punter Shane Lechler and kicker Sebastian Janikowski, a former first-round pick who went to his first Pro Bowl in 2011. Fassel inherited a kicking battery that consisted of 2011 undrafted free agent long-snapper Jake McQuaide, veteran kicker Josh Brown and no punter on the roster as Donnie Jones was an unrestricted free agent. The Rams released Brown and have opted to go with rookie kicker Greg Zuerlein, a sixth-round pick from football powerhouse Missouri Western, and Johnny Hekker, an undrafted free agent from Oregon State.
Through four games, Zuerlein, nicknamed “Greg the Leg”, is a perfect 12-of-12 on field goal attempts, including all three of his attempts beyond 50 yards. Zuerlein hit a franchise-record 60-yard field goal in last week’s 19-13 win over the Seattle Seahawks, earning NFC Special Teams Player of the Week honors, and is fourth in the league in scoring with 41 points. Zuerlein was one of ten nominees for NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month.
Meanwhile, Hekker has a respectable 39.4-yard net average and tossed a two-yard touchdown pass in the win over the Seahawks on a fake field goal. The Rams’ kick return game could use improvement — a league-low 17.8-yard average on just four returns — but the arrival of Fassel has already resulted in marked improvement in the third phase of the game”
October 4th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Dude, Chang is a straight up hack
He styled Kenny’s (the chain smoking albino with hemorrhoids character in 2K4S) pubes before our last show at Hot Topic, and totally butchered the poor kid’s patch
Kenny, bless his heart, was proud of his naturally flowing locks and sprinkled them with the dew from a tulip petal every morning
Chang blow dried them until they lost all their body and then permed them relentlessly without mercy. Kenny was bald down there by the next morning.
He’d been turned into a monster, a freak
October 4th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
No, my grandparents weren’t rich to begin with. They were Polish immigrants. My grandmother was one of 13 children. My grandfather was one of 8. They knew how to save and didn’t live outside of their means. Pretty simple stuff.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
732.Thec Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
worked with one that had the Dew of Mr. T. pretty cool.
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Never mind…
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Of Course Nevermind, this is a guy that was openly gay. Would be a guy you and Mistic would say whats up and then figure out he was gay and jointly take part in a hate crime against him. Figures…
October 4th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Considering, we don’t know how much (If anything) Carter has left in his tank. RDE might be the best choice with 1st pick. But Damnit, we REALLY need a lock-down corner.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Mistic,
“Your people” HAD to be so incredibly thick-skinned and resilient for so many years, due to the crap they had to put up with.
So why on Earth are you such a touchy-feely, thin-skinned ninny?
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thick skin is a requirement for survival, but i dont have to bite my tounge.
i dont bend i dont scratch where i dont itch. Insulting me by comparing gay marriage with the plight of my people world wide will cause me to expose it for the fraudulent notion it is.
i will not allow anyone to use the suffering of my beloved black people as a shield for their own life style.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
734.Thec Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Proud of the A’s!
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bosox can’t do anything right. we could of had homefiled thorught the Playoffs.
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Not sure if u have to worry. Yankees keep getting ousted in the 1st rd. these days anyway.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
JFB, so then your answer is no. You don’t know anyone on a modest income who’s made it without SS.
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LOL, I am talking about garbage man in rural, NM, who make MAYBE 35K a year.
They just work 30+ years in one spot, and have a 401A and a 457, because they know they have no SS to fall back on.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
i will not allow anyone to use the suffering of my beloved black people as a shield for their own life style.
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That’s pretty deep man.
You can ahead and make fun of Italians, I might join in with you.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I agree Beeech. For a so called “legend” in the pube styling biz Chang has always been a bit overrated.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
my people are bought and sold as slaves….
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Your people? This type of statement would drive my Policitcs Professor from Nigeria crazy. Mistic you have more in common with your white neighbor down the street than Africans from Africa. Also, Africa is a continent, with many DIFFERENT PEOPLE with many different worldviews. Just like Europe is not a continent of all the same White Devils.
Who is doing the buying and selling in these countries?
FYI, I work in SF and guess what there are black gay people…worked with one that had the Dew of Mr. T. pretty cool.
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ok 1 by 1
1. your professor has obviously has a mind that has been infected by the euro centric world view. he has been fooled to believe that he has nothing in common with his brothers in the diaspora, much the same that field slaves were taught to believe they had nothing in common with the house slave.
2. nigeria was occupied / colonized by brittain france and germany, so your professor suffers from the mental retardation that is a result of white supremacy.
3. Not all africans adopt the euro-centric world view and in fact some African countries offer expedited dual citizenship programs to black from the states simple to encourage and foster the reconnection between our extended family and home roots. the idea that we are different is eurocentric and it is the popular notion promoted through media to keep us apart..
4. of course there are gay black people where did i say there wasnt.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
WoW, the topics in here are sad.
Some of you thought DA smiling with Fox was bad?
You should read your comments, this is a raider blog.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
DMAC !!
whats good today Mr President ??
October 4th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
my people are bought and sold as slaves….
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Klas people were kidnapped as babies and turned into Nazi Super Soldiers. You don’t see Klas wining about it.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
732.Thec Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
worked with one that had the Dew of Mr. T. pretty cool.
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Never mind…
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Of Course Nevermind, this is a guy that was openly gay. Would be a guy you and Mistic would say whats up and then figure out he was gay and jointly take part in a hate crime against him. Figures…
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DutchRaider77,
You are 1000% wrong. you have ZERO idea what I was referencing when I said nevermind.
2nd, you don’t know me or anything about me. I NEVER discriminate or HATE anyone, gays included.
Until you have met me face to face, and have gotten to know me, do not start blasting stuff on the blog.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
my people are bought and sold as slaves….
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Your people? This type of statement would drive my Policitcs Professor from Nigeria crazy. Mistic you have more in common with your white neighbor down the street than Africans from Africa. Also, Africa is a continent, with many DIFFERENT PEOPLE with many different worldviews. Just like Europe is not a continent of all the same White Devils.
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dutch you may disagree or think i am not smart enough to connect the dots properly, but what do you think of yale university?
You professor must not know about this, take a look. then tell me again how i have no connection or common ground with my folks in my home land
http://www.yale.edu/glc/gullah/index.htm
October 4th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
DMAC !!
whats good today Mr President ??
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What up ODB!
Green party smashed them yesterday.
Looking great at the office.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am
It could be our players failing, and not the system, considering the system is used by good teams around the league.
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Well, if you have watched this team play for the last ten years and watched other coaches go to teams and have success, then, yes, a lot of this HAS to be on the players.
October 4th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Brahs, justice has finally been served
Rush is going into the RnR Hall of Fame
Gonna send a personal invite to geddy, alex and neil for a celebration at the Beeeech Pad
No margs, only totally awesome red wine. This event will be hella classy, wasted strippers will be confined to the waterbed in my bedroom
October 4th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
ODB
I just harvested some killer “Blue dream”/”Casey Dawg”
Schit is dope!
Would luv to share w/ my bros.
Coming out West?
October 4th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Agree Seymour
October 4th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Any of my Blog Brahs every tried humping shorties to Grace Under Pressure?
I always pop the Beeech Lawg into the poo hole during The Enemy Within, just a Beeech Dawg classic
Guess that move is getting huge in Winnipeg
SHOUT OUT TO THEM 10 PROVINCES
October 4th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
come on beechy the only shorty you have ever done was that midget named Julio in Covina
October 4th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
FYI Mistic
Here is a bio of my professor. An example he gave was when he came to the U.S. he saw people begging for money that were missing limbs, he immediately thought of them as criminals. Why, b/c where he grew up, thiefs were dealt with under sharia law and had there limbs cut off. Different world view.
The world will never change if you think of White people as completely different than black people. You really think there is a natural difference between black and White? Nurture does not come into play?
Mistic, if I didn’t think you were smart and worth talking to I wouldn’t bother to try. IMO race should always be discussed. Especially with the members of the Black&Silver faction.
http://www.lakeforest.edu/academics/faculty/orogun/
October 4th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Maybe we here on the blog should have our own player by player eval’s. lst up: So-longo McLame. Someone bust out the waiver machine.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Thec
Sorry, I apoligize…
October 4th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
beechy only tells all these silly stories to you guys to make him feel good about himself because of his short comings if you catch my drift
October 4th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Lamar Houston: Fairly solid all around, but still lacking in the pass rush category.
Matt Shaughnessy: Not good at all. This was supposed to be a break out year for Matt, and he just has not shown up. Injured? Bad grade here.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
@Seymour Bush
Think Houston should switch to DT?
October 4th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
come on beechy the only shorty you have ever done was that midget named Julio in Covina
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Peemore Nob Bust, how much longer are you going to run with your newest sock puppet?
Eventually you’re going to mix up your handles and post as the wrong one for all of us to enjoy
But can you really handle yet another horrible humiliation?
Just keeping it real, holla
October 4th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Until you have met me face to face, and have gotten to know me, do not start blasting stuff on the blog.
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Happens to me all the time, sometimes by friends of yours. Just saying.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
ODB
I just harvested some killer “Blue dream”/”Casey Dawg”
Schit is dope!
Would luv to share w/ my bros.
Coming out West?
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wish you would have told me about this BEFORE i went on vacation !!! that sh1t sounds tasty !!!
October 4th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Thec
Sorry, I apoligize…
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No worries Bruh, All is well.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
beechy dawg you keep denying our love. come home to daddy
October 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Looks like lil’ biachi is about to have another melt down. This should be hilarious.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Until you have met me face to face, and have gotten to know me, do not start blasting stuff on the blog.
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Happens to me all the time, sometimes by friends of yours. Just saying.
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Those are grown me. I do not condone nor endorse what is said to you or about you.
However, what you can say about me is that I give you repect.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Those are grown men..
October 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
KrappyRat let’s hear more about that all-expense paid trip to Switzerland you’ll be enjoying
Can’t believe you’re letting KrappyWife & Her Bowl cut buy you another one, guess you’ve mastered the art of freeloading
Sorry old goat, you know I gots to keep it real
October 4th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
none of what beechy dawg here says is real. he just wants to impress some real men. he doesn’t even like sports other than water sports if yo wknow what I mean
October 4th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Instant reactions from back when Knapp was re-hired:
137.DKnight007 Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Interesting. I wonder how you Knapp haters from a few years ago and Allen lovers will feel about Knapp coming back and changing the O system…AGAIN!
DKnight007 Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I find it hard to believe Gregg Knapp would come back.
If he does…at least he will have a legit shot with Palmer at QB ahead of JaBustas and Al not being around anymore.
However, the Raiders may go back to the ZBS system exclusively? Hope not…they need to mix up the blocking schemes like they have done the past two seasons.
Seymour Bush Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Knapp’s a Bay Area guy and Rick Dennison is the OC there. Kubiak won’t stand in his way. Plus Knapp is a good QB coach.
RaiderDuck Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I was never a Knapp hater, because we never saw Knapp’s offense. Even after Lance left, it was still Lance’s offense with Lance’s personnel. Knapp couldn’t do much at that point.
DKnight007 Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
I will tell you.
IF Greg Knapp returns as the OC here under Allen, things will get quite interesting, if the offense regresses from what was achieved the last two years.
I like Knapp as a coach, but it’s going to depend if he plays to the strengths of his players skills on offense, like what Hue did or if he sticks to what he knows, which is a ZBS West Coast style offense or he goes with a Dennison style with ZBS running, and play action and roll outs.
I still want to see trapping, pulling , power blocking and counters when it comes to OLine run blocking.
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:49 am
We were 2-14 in 2006, and a lot of fans wanted to make no changes whatsoever in upper management. Let’s give this system a few years.
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:49 am
JB Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Not happy with Knapp as OC over Saunders. The offense wasn’t broken so why fix it. Just needed a couple of tweeks on the O-line, DMac to stay healthy & the injuries to be reduced. Saunders would have called a smarter grouping of calls as compared to hue’s record. Changing the offense is a bad decision. If they go back to ZBS, they will fail miserably. Just saying…
JB Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Not keeping Saunders, at least for this upcoming year, was Allen’s first rookie HC mistake.
In my mind, he should have spent most of his time & effort focused on the D and then do whatever to the O the following year.
Knapp’s background does NOT match up with our current offensive personnel. Just a bad decision for change IMO.
Seymour Bush Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
The Texan Offense in 2010 after he arrived was 3rd overall, 4th in passing, 7th in rushing. It was Rick Dennison’s lst year in Houston as well. Something tells me some of the playcalling was done by Knapp.
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Oh crap! Knapp! This is getting worse and worse.
We SUCKED on offense with him as offensive coordinator!
WTF are we doing here? Why can’t we keep a good offense and build the defense. It’s like 1 step forward…1 step back…maybe 2 steps back.
Just Win Baby Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Knapp? Really? Good grief. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:51 am
Whoever our OC is, I knew it wouldn’t be Saunders, I am confident they will score more points than Hue’s offense last year, without the turnovers, and of course the penalties.
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:23 am
I’ve always said that we never should have let Knapp go to Seattle in the first place. By the end of 2008, the offense was humming and he had JaMarcus playing very well. Even during the bad games, he and JR were joined at the hip after every offensive series. I think he did a hell of a job here. Trading he and John DeFillipo out for Buddy Whackit and Ted Tollner was a mistake that cost JR and Cable their jobs.
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:07 am
Greg Knapp for OC?
he’s a bit too conservative for me. I understand Dennis Allen expressing interest, but to offer him the job already? who was he competing against?
to be fair … GK was saddled with JaMarcus Russell last time around
bcz24 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:13 am
His offense wasn’t very conservative in Houston. It WAS here, but they had to limit the playbook to about 30 plays for Russell. I think it will be a LOT different with the weaponry we have now.
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
Greg Knapp Zone Blocming scheme once again LMBO!!!!!
That is what I call change! Get back Knapp!!!!
I see 7 wins MAX this year. If you all think this is an upgrade from Saunders or even Hue Jackson, good luck.
This team will be a rebuilding joke once again!
Marley Bob Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.
The Big Banana Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:39 am
Bunch ‘a chicken littles in here last night and this morning.
Dmoney Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:54 am
McFadden never ran will until we got rid of the ZB scheme and went to the power scheme. Palmer has no experience with the WC offense. Knapp has never real been that great as an OC. This hire is disappointing. Saunders experience and track record as OC is way superior to Knapp.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:59 am
Knapp?
Say what????
This is a joke right?
What’s next, Wink Martindale for DC?
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:01 am
Knapp is a ZBS guy. McFadden does not play well behind that type of line. He’s not a one-cut guy.
And his offenses have been really mediocre to bad.
Why hire this guy except that they’re old buddies?
Wrong hire man. He’s not innovative. He’s not fast paced moving offense.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:02 am
This news is disheartening……zone blocking system and Knapp?
Might as well trade McFadden I guess.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:08 am
Bummer….Allen is killing his own coaching legacy right off the bat with this hire.
Well, who will be the next head coach of the Oakland Raiders?
SaintKaufman Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:36 am
Good hire. Everybody settle down.
Totally different roster and circumstance than ‘07-’08.
We’re built for running the ball. And wait till you see what Palmer can do with play action on a regular basis. I don’t expect this to be a dink and dunk O anymore!
lefty12 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:57 am
LOL,knew this would happen.Everyone having panic attacks because DA didn’t hire ‘their’ guy as OC .The same will happen when the DC is announced.Knapp wasn’t conservative last year.When he was here before and the bust was QB people used to complain that he didn’t run the ball often enough and let the bust throw too much.Knapp is a highly respected NFL coach.Let’s give him a chance now that we have NFL caliber players before throwing him under the bus.
Method To My Madness Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
Raiders will win 6-7 games max in 2012….Knapp is a pxssy zbs west coast offensive guy…how does that fit with Robert Carson Palmer?…..Dennis Allen fk you and Reggie McKenzie fk u too….u both are losers and won’t win a prize in a cracker jack box
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
The Knapp hiring is a huge downer. I was getting pretty excited about coach Allen and the new regime, but this decision is like a kick in the gut. Knapp was just awful here, and I don’t see anything on his resume since then that inspires any confidence that he is suddenly a good coordinator. Our only hope is that they keep Saunders around for when Knapp falls on his face like last time.
Fukin bummer.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Sorry MR, but we can call ourselves a defensive team all we want, but the fact of the matter is that 90% of the bums on defense who stunk it up last year will still be here due to cap issues and no draft picks, so the likelihood of us actually being good enough on defense that we can allow our offense to turn to schyt and still win games is pretty slim.
Dakota Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Fk it, what’s done is done. Just have to live with it and hope for once in his life Knapp can call a good game since he is the man on offense with our HC leaving it completely up to him to get the job done.
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LOL some of you guys have been busted praising Knapp and should have your Raiders pass revoked for the rest of the season.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
KrappyRat let’s hear more about that all-expense paid trip to Switzerland you’ll be enjoying
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Well, at least I have a life. Don’t have to pretend. Dumb Beech.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
beechy dawg you keep denying our love. come home to daddy
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Looks like lil’ biachi is about to have another melt down. This should be hilarious.
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Check it out, Blog Brahs -
Peemore Nob Bust posted these at almost the exact same time!
So close to mixing up handles … Don’t worry though, Bust will face plant eventually
Always does, holla
October 4th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
the Raiders still use video tape? maybe that is their problem. Join the digital world.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Very Interesting post, Easroaklandraider!!
You see Lefty and Seymour Bush won’t change or recognize. Some people don’t have it within their character to admit a wrong.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
KrappyRat let’s hear more about that all-expense paid trip to Switzerland you’ll be enjoying
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Well, at least I have a life. Don’t have to pretend. Dumb Beech.
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How does mooching vacations and allowance checks off your wife, being unemployed and trolling around a football blog on your anniversary qualify as having a life?
Tough one, huh old goat
October 4th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Very Interesting post, Easroaklandraider!!
You see Lefty and Seymour Bush won’t change or recognize. Some people don’t have it within their character to admit a wrong.
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the praise should go to Dakota KK as he is the original poster. yeah Seymour an a few more have been busted and we got in blacknwhite.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
KK,WTF,are you talking about you Fu#*ing jerk.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
How does mooching vacations and allowance checks off your wife, being unemployed and trolling around a football blog on your anniversary qualify as having a life?
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The only thing you know, is I have a wife. You havent seen my tax returns, or know when my anniversary is, so, Dumb Beech, keep embarrassing yourself. It can’t hurt your reputation.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
KK,WTF,are you talking about you Fu#*ing jerk.
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Fk you back, Knapp lover.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:57 am
LOL,knew this would happen.Everyone having panic attacks because DA didn’t hire ‘their’ guy as OC .The same will happen when the DC is announced.Knapp wasn’t conservative last year.When he was here before and the bust was QB people used to complain that he didn’t run the ball often enough and let the bust throw too much.Knapp is a highly respected NFL coach.Let’s give him a chance now that we have NFL caliber players before throwing him under the bus.
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Dumbass.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
What is it KK,you all bu** hurt because I don’t bow down to the HJ apologists?The guy was a bad HC.He was a good OC.I’ve never said one way or the other what I think of Knapp because I believe in giving a person a reasonable amount of time before jumping to conclusions.Honestly,so far he hasn’t done a very good job but I will still wait before drawing my final feelings about him.I did the same thing with you.While others attacked you I watched and took my time before deciding what a punk you really are.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Tom Cable’s pad level post game comments > anything Knapp says
October 4th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
yep lefty you were one of the ones who praised knapp smh.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
KK,WTF,are you talking about you Fu#*ing jerk.
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HaHa, LeftNut had his feelings hurt
Hilarious
October 4th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Obviously you have a reading comprehension problem.In my original statement I asked for patience before jumping to conclusions.Nowhere in that statement do I claim to like Knapp.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Knapp is a highly respected joke around the nfl at least as an OC LEFTY maybe he is a good qb coach.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
yep lefty you were one of the ones who praised knapp smh.
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He’ll never admit he was wrong.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
The only thing you know, is I have a wife. You havent seen my tax returns, or know when my anniversary is, so, Dumb Beech, keep embarrassing yourself. It can’t hurt your reputation.
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KrappyRat, did you get your head stuck in the microwave this morning?
Me and 30 others were on the blog the night you showed up and told the world it was your anniversary
Remember, that’s also the night you called yourself a ladies man back in the day
Hilarious stuff, old timer. Keep it up
October 4th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
WORST ISSUES WITH RAIDERS:
1. ZBS
2. Pass Rush
3. McClain
4. Secondary
5. Health of WR’s
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Good Post eastoaklandraider. Im so glad you busted out SeymourBush post praising Greg Knapp just to prove how much of a dunce he is. Just how he was wrong about Knapp and his ablilities as an OC he’s wrong about Reggie Mckenzie and his abilities as a GM. Mark Davis should have done his due dilligence and interviewed other cantidates just to peek and see, you never know he may of surprisingly come across someone bettr. John Madden said the hiring of Mckenzie was all Marks and he didn’t tell mark to hire Mckenzie showing to me he ddn’t fully endorse it so if things went wrong he wouldnt be to blame. In my mind Eric Decosta from the Ravens would have been a better fit. A young invigorated mind who’s done more in his teams organization than just bring people coffee. Mark Davis is a joke, Reggie Mckenzie is a joke, Dennis Allen is a joke , and thats why our raiders are now a joke. All a reflection of management. Dennis Allen gets hired when he’s never been a head coach, always just an assistant or Coordinator and he accomplished nothing as an DC. He got ram sacked by the patriots in the playoffs, Dmac averaged almost 150 yards each time we played against his defense, and his D as an whole ranked 23rd. He wasn’t even in the top ten, and yet those 2 clueless losers in Mark and Reg haul him in here like he’sgoing to be some type of savior. smh
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
East-saying you want to give a person a chance before declaring they are a piece of sh!t isn’t the same as praising them.If I did praise him,and I haven’t seen anything supporting that statement,it looks as if I could have been completely wrong.Still,I haven’t come to that conclusion just yet.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Me and 30 others were on the blog the night you showed up and told the world it was your anniversary
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Prove it Dumb Beech.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
you cant take it back lefty it is in plain print just admit to it and save yourself further embarrasment. in your words “Knapp is a highly respected coach in the NFL”
that sounds like praise to me.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Obviously you have a reading comprehension problem.In my original statement I asked for patience before jumping to conclusions.Nowhere in that statement do I claim to like Knapp.
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LeftNut begging for forgiveness from KrappyRat
Seriously folks, you can’t make this stuff up
October 4th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
WORST ISSUES WITH RAIDERS:
1. ZBS
2. Pass Rush
3. McClain
4. Secondary
5. Health of WR’s
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in order i’d go…
1.secondary
2.McClain
3.Pass Rush
4.Zbs
5.Recievers
October 4th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I do know I could have been mistaken and Knapp might be incompetent,but after years of being here I am positive my take on KK is spot on.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Lefty, you’re probably the most boring poster in here. If anybody wants your opinion, all they have to do is read Raider press releases.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
oh and Tarver is awful.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I do know I could have been mistaken and Knapp might be incompetent,but after years of being here I am positive my take on KK is spot on.
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Oh yeah, you’re wrong about everything else, but right about me personally. Fk you.
October 4th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
1. cb’s
2. zbs
3. pass rush
4. play calling
October 4th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
F**k you too,gay boy.When are your heartthrobs the chip-in dales showing up for your daily massage.Don’t they have a difficult time finding you as you float around on your yacht down the Los Angeles river.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Me and 30 others were on the blog the night you showed up and told the world it was your anniversary
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Prove it Dumb Beech.
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Old fool, we know you’re dumb as a wall of bricks, but did you honestly forget you spent the night blogging on your anniversary?
It was one of the all time blog classics
Mistabrown would get a kick out of this, holla
October 4th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
“I thought we made good strides last week.”
can’t get over this one
October 4th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
lefty….lol
BUSTED!!!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
“we just didn’t have any break out runs, but we did have more consistency,”
“Unfortunately for us, we got into a game where we had to start playing catch up and had to throw the ball more in that last quarter and a half,” Knapp said. “The improvements that we had made in the first two and a half quarters we weren’t able to use as much in the last quarter and a half because we had to start throwing the ball.”
or this
October 4th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Old fool, we know you’re dumb as a wall of bricks, but did you honestly forget you spent the night blogging on your anniversary?
It was one of the all time blog classics
Mistabrown would get a kick out of this, holla
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You and The BrownStains Troll prove it.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
F**k you too,gay boy.When are your heartthrobs the chip-in dales showing up for your daily massage.Don’t they have a difficult time finding you as you float around on your yacht down the Los Angeles river.
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LeftNut & KrappyRat = Scorned Lovers
This is better than Melrose Place
In other zany blog news, Peemore Bust has gathered up his team of sock puppets and sprinted for the hills
October 4th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
811.raiderinparadise Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
oh and Tarver is awful.
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And who’s responsble for bringing in tarver? Whos responsible for bringing in Knapp? whos responsible for bringing in pollack??? The coach was allowed to hire his own staff and the entire staff to me looks like a load of … good job Reg. Who’s responsible for bringing in Pat Lee? Who’s Responsible for bringing in Joselio over DvD? Who’s Responsible Bringing in a rookie coach and allowing him to hire the most incompitent coaching staff the raiders have ever seen since 2006? Hmm… some guru huh?
October 4th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Check it out, Blog Brahs -
Peemore Nob Bust posted these at almost the exact same time!
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Uh oh, here it comes. lst comes the paranoia. Then comes the hearing of voices. Then comes the complete mental breakdown. I have seen this pattern before. Poor lil biachi. She is about to go wacky jack.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Meltdown!!!!!!!! Get your Nachos ready
October 4th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
So im reading alot of Detroit Tigers fans are saying they are gonna crush the A’s.. even they’re announcer is talking ish saying they are gonna steamroll the A’s and stop all their momentumn. WOW REALLY??
Better be ready Detroit Kitties…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Old fool, we know you’re dumb as a wall of bricks, but did you honestly forget you spent the night blogging on your anniversary?
It was one of the all time blog classics
Mistabrown would get a kick out of this, holla
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You and The BrownStains Troll prove it.
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Shouldn’t be hard. He’ll show up here eventually.
Do you deny calling yourself “a ladies man back in the day” also? Because that was super funny.
Old timer, this will undoubtedly be your greatest blog humiliation yet
Just keepin’ it real
October 4th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
so far the coaching staff has been a major flop.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
“Knapp is a highly respected NFL coach” is a fact not an opinion. They guy has been employed in the NFL (as a coach) for way over a decade by numerous head coaches and the only person I’ve heard say anything negative about him was a 24yo Terrel Owens. Hardly the pinnacle of credibility.
So Lefty I understand youor position in late January. I wasn’t thrilled at the time with the selection but was willing to give the guy a chance. I am even less thrilled with it now. But bottom line is, they don’t pay me to make those decisions at 1220 Harbourbay Parkway…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Good Post eastoaklandraider. Im so glad you busted out SeymourBush post praising Greg Knapp just to prove how much of a dunce he is. Just how he was wrong about Knapp and his ablilities as an OC he’s wrong about Reggie Mckenzie and his abilities as a GM.
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Because I said Knapp is a Bay Area guy? the only macking you must be doing is with Beechy’s cool boyfriend dude.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Im a Raider Fan im still waiting on our Bob Melvin. So far we have had alot of Bob gerens
October 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
What’s really pathetic about these trolls is the only honest one is Beechams Gay Lover.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
so far the coaching staff has been a major flop.
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I have to agree. Is it really that hard to improve week by week? It shouldn’t. And we haven’t.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
What’s really pathetic about these trolls is the only honest one is Beechams Gay Lover.
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^^^^^^^
Promo
October 4th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
What’s really pathetic about these trolls is the only honest one is Beechams Gay Lover.
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Peemore Nob Bust propping up his own sock puppet
Get ready for the MELTDOWN
October 4th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Racism, politics, and pissing contests. Just another day in the iba Raider blog…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The reason our team sucks right now has a LOT more to do with Al Davis paying Stanford Routt, Kamerion Wimbley and Seymour/Kelly enough to fund an ENTIRE defense of boar hunters. Routt/Wimbley/Seymour got Revis/SuperMario/Ngata money with about 1/5th the production and value. Combine that with Rolando turning out poorly and you have a defense with almost no real talent. Predator (wheeler) & Burris are pretty good and Desmond Bryant is a beast but that’s not nearly enough to make a D click. We need talent on Defense. That’s going to take some time.
I hope ya’ll don’t keep soiling your pants the entire it takes…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
QB rating against our blitzes this year … 117.8 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s pathetic, might as well not blitz and roatew the d-line all game with 4 man rushes and have a better coverage package.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
entire *time* it takes…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
It’s OK that your boyfriend outted you lil biachi. Most of us live in the Bay Area. We’re open minded. But the part about you parading around in a bra and panties, with a toilet plunger hanging out of your ass, now that’s a little extreme.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
“have a better coverage package” requires better coverage players. We have none active at the moment….
October 4th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Yo Blog Brahs
Just settling down for my epic pube styling by Japanese legend Hawakagawa
He’s calling his new creation “Shanghai Rain”, just hope he doesn’t mistakenly clip my peeper with those shears
Gotta use the Big Dawg later on when I shag this washed up old MiLF.
Trust me, if she didn’t have 47DDDs, I’d be checking out the Married to Jonas marathon on E! instead
October 4th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
JLofty Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The reason our team sucks right now has a LOT more to do with Al Davis paying Stanford Routt, Kamerion Wimbley and Seymour/Kelly enough to fund an ENTIRE defense of boar hunters. Routt/Wimbley/Seymour got Revis/SuperMario/Ngata money with about 1/5th the production and value. Combine that with Rolando turning out poorly and you have a defense with almost no real talent.
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This is true. But I hold more of the responsibility for the poor defensive showing at the DE’s. They have really done nothing. Run support has been poor, and absolutely no rush. Couple that with McClain basically doing nothing, and we have what we see: a mess out there on D.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I don’t want to hear squat about the raiders and heart. We just played a game last week where we were down 10-6 at halftime and we got the ball back first in the third quarter only to come out to lose 37-6… You don’t go in to half time down only four points and return to lose by 31. Thats not an issue of heart thats an issue of game planning. The players dont believe in this system and know that the coach is in over his head, they don’t believe in him this staff or the plays… And you can’t fault them because even us as fans don’t believe in the plays and schemes theyre running out there. If we can see it they feel it. Why don’t the players or us as fans believe in the zbs or Knapps offense you ask??? “Because they’ve tried it before and it doesn’t work!!!” smh We aren’t just protesting against these guys for no reason. We’ve seen this movie before and already know the outcome. But what erks my nerves most is, you have fans who for years critiqued and held Al Davis accountable for all of his mistakes but now give this New GM who’s clearly in over his head all the breaks, excuses, and passes in the world for two decent players (phillip wheeler and miles burris). Beyond those two players he’s failed with every move and decision he’s made… and thats real.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I’m not interested in Pitting Reggie McKenzie vs Al Davis.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Beeech Dawg,
Just tell us if you are lady-girl or not. That’s what your “gay lover” claims.
It is hard to know whom to believe.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
JLofty Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The reason our team sucks right now has a LOT more to do with Al Davis paying Stanford Routt, Kamerion Wimbley and Seymour/Kelly enough to fund an ENTIRE defense of boar hunters. Routt/Wimbley/Seymour got Revis/SuperMario/Ngata money with about 1/5th the production and value. Combine that with Rolando turning out poorly and you have a defense with almost no real talent. Predator (wheeler) & Burris are pretty good and Desmond Bryant is a beast but that’s not nearly enough to make a D click. We need talent on Defense. That’s going to take some time.
I hope ya’ll don’t keep soiling your pants the entire it takes…
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i get what you are saying but the coaches on offense and special teams are terrible. the o line cant block for dmac, knapp cant invigorate the offense. In fact he has sent dmac out on the stretch run 77% of the total run plays. he refuses to send him between the tackles where he has been so good.
the special teams are atrocious. ‘
the defensive line has been abysmal even though tk big dick, bryant and houston are seen as very talented players across the leauge. Romac has not developed so lb coach cant be spared either.
D.A laughing with fox after the game was ridiculous, and the coaches are only offering excuses instead of prioducing results.
they are proving that they are in over their heads
October 4th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Btw, I just googled “Japanese hair styling legend Hawakagawa” and nothing came up.
I see you are prevaricating again.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Beeech Dawg,
Just tell us if you are lady-girl or not. That’s what your “gay lover” claims.
It is hard to know whom to believe.
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You sound like a Korean dude
October 4th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
828.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Good Post eastoaklandraider. Im so glad you busted out SeymourBush post praising Greg Knapp just to prove how much of a dunce he is. Just how he was wrong about Knapp and his ablilities as an OC he’s wrong about Reggie Mckenzie and his abilities as a GM.
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Because I said Knapp is a Bay Area guy? the only macking you must be doing is with Beechy’s cool boyfriend dude.
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Nah my friend because you’ve been singing the praises of this new regime the most. You are the biggest Reggie apologist on here. Thats why.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Lil biachi is officially now hearing voices. Korean voices. Hopefully they are telling her to go commit hari cari.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Btw, I just googled “Japanese hair styling legend Hawakagawa” and nothing came up.
I see you are prevaricating again.
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Ahh, you spelled it wrong.
Try googling Hawakagawahiro and tell me what you find
Remember to also google “pube styling” for a better shot at accuracy
October 4th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Nah my friend because you’ve been singing the praises of this new regime the most. You are the biggest Reggie apologist on here. Thats why.
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So what you are saying is we should scrap the entire regime after 16 quarters of football?
October 4th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
843.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I’m not interested in Pitting Reggie McKenzie vs Al Davis.
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Im not but I think we should hold everybody to the same standard… just saying.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
“beechy’s” daily beatdown is in full effect.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Lil biachi is officially now hearing voices. Korean voices. Hopefully they are telling her to go commit hari cari.
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Bust, stop flailing all over the blog and fire up your Nob puppet
At least his beat downs will divert attention from your upcoming flame out
October 4th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
The key to unlocking the ZBS is hidden in Cp3’s neck beard ….
October 4th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Yes Mistic I cannot argue that at all. ST has been abysmal, and the offense pretty horrid. I am not quite sure yet whether the OLine’s pass blocking (not good) is a side-effect of their inability to establish a run game.
But the real head scratcher is WTF can’t we run the ball? I mean you gotta be KIDDING me!!!! Too much talent to be DEAD LAST in rushing the ball…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
“beechy’s” daily beatdown is in full effect.
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That twisted btch loves it. What else has she got to do?
October 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Bust, stop flailing all over the blog and fire up your Nob puppet
At least his beat downs will divert attention from your upcoming flame out
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At least take the plunger out of your ass when you say that. LMAO.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I am just hoping some if this is DA’s growing pains and he doesn’t become our Josh McDaniels wunderkind…
October 4th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
gm’s get more than one chance to pick a coaching staff before you run them off typically. so why would you blow out big mck if his first choice in hc doesnt pan out?
just like you dont blow out the front office based on one bad draft, typically
usually they get more than one strike before they are fired, big mck should get the same action
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
JLofty Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I am just hoping some if this is DA’s growing pains and he doesn’t become our Josh McDaniels wunderkind…
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Some of it clearly is. I said that when we hired all these guys: rookies are going to make rookie mistakes, whether they are players, coaches or GM’s. The big problem I have with Tarver is he has not seen the league in a couple of years, so preparing for it is difficult.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Nah my friend because you’ve been singing the praises of this new regime the most. You are the biggest Reggie apologist on here. Thats why.
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So what you are saying is we should scrap the entire regime after 16 quarters of football?
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As crazy as it sounds… yes. So you mean to tell me, if you were to hire me for a job to run your company, only to find out later that im not qualified for the job you’d keep me to honor a contract? Knowing that by having me run your company production will drop each year continously because I dont know what the hell im doing? Or would you cut your losses with me early before even more damage is done? Its a big decision but if it makes your company better it must be made.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
“beechy’s” daily beatdown is in full effect.
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That twisted btch loves it. What else has she got to do?
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KrappyRat, now would be an excellent time to remind the blog again how much you hate name calling
Or did you forget about that gem as well?
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
players ahve the shortest leash, followed by coaches, then the gm
October 4th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Beeech,
Hawakagawahiro: no results from google.
So what is it going to be, are you, or are you not gay?
Beeech’s Gay Lover is disgusting, btw.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Nah my friend because you’ve been singing the praises of this new regime the most. You are the biggest Reggie apologist on here. Thats why.
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So what you are saying is we should scrap the entire regime after 16 quarters of football?
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As crazy as it sounds… yes. So you mean to tell me, if you were to hire me for a job to run your company, only to find out later that im not qualified for the job you’d keep me to honor a contract? Knowing that by having me run your company production will drop each year continously because I dont know what the hell im doing?
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How do you know that? It’s not like the Raiders just pulled the most active poster off Jerry MacDonald’s blog and handed him the keys. Reggie McKenzie was Director of Football Operations for arguably the most successful franchise in the NFL over the last 10-15 years. He was saddled with a poor roster, no draft and a salary cap out of control. I find it hard to believe anyone would give him 8 weeks to get that entire mess right.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
playersd leash extends until they prove or disprove that they fit a certain system, usually you get 1 season.
coaches leash are generally extended until they have the players to run thier system usually more 2 years. The exception is when the coach goes off the rails like hu jack did,lance kiffin or josh mcdumbass. the other exception is if a coach has washed out in a previous post , jim mora jr eric mangini are good examples.
front office and gm regimes get several shots at getting the right coaches and picking the players to fit their vision.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
860.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
gm’s get more than one chance to pick a coaching staff before you run them off typically. so why would you blow out big mck if his first choice in hc doesnt pan out?
just like you dont blow out the front office based on one bad draft, typically
usually they get more than one strike before they are fired, big mck should get the same action
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Big McK should get a big Mac and go back to the pack where he belongs. He should have never been hired in the first place thats the point. Th guy can barely speak english, talks like he has down syndrome and he’s out of breath from carrying that big a** lip around all day. I have 0 faith in that guy. He’s Matt Millen with a tan and a Fro. But unfortunately I don’t think the entire fan base will realize it until he completley turns us into the detroit lions and we go 0-16. (shrugs) But hey… atleast the a’s are ok.
October 4th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Beeech,
Hawakagawahiro: no results from google.
So what is it going to be, are you, or are you not gay?
Beeech’s Gay Lover is disgusting, btw.
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Ah, my deepest apologies, I somehow misspelled it again. Try googling Hawakagasukahiroson
Also include (for ease of searching):
major pubes
diaper rash
corn hole
kung pao surprise
I’ll be astonished if nothing turns up
October 4th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
He should have never been hired in the first place thats the point. Th guy can barely speak english, talks like he has down syndrome and he’s out of breath from carrying that big a** lip around all day. I have 0 faith in that guy. He’s Matt Millen with a tan and a Fro.
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Racist BS, and shows where you’re coming from.
Credibility -1
October 4th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
playersd leash extends until they prove or disprove that they fit a certain system, usually you get 1 season.
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Nope according to reg players dont even get 1. DVD and bruce campbell and even get 1 preseason.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
As crazy as it sounds… yes. So you mean to tell me, if you were to hire me for a job to run your company, only to find out later that im not qualified for the job you’d keep me to honor a contract? Knowing that by having me run your company production will drop each year continously because I dont know what the hell im doing? Or would you cut your losses with me early before even more damage is done? Its a big decision but if it makes your company better it must be made.
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Any contract requires at the minimum substantial performance, meaning both parties must do what they promised, for the most part.
There is no set standard to determine substantial performance, unlike strict performance, the requirement of which has been eroded under common law the last 70 yrs.
Clearly, Knapp’s performance with the Raider’s 1/3 record has been insubstantial; he has committed a material breach.
Raiders may declare anticipatory repudiation where Knapp’s actions demonstrate that he will never exercise substantial performance. His system just doesn’t work.
Therefore the Raiders can do one of 3 things: urge Knapp to revise his system; suspend their performance (not pay him) until he gives them adequate assurances that he will revise his scheme; or declare material breach which relieves them of their performance, and then move toward a remedy.
AD (BIH) used the same theory to fire Lance, and in the end was absolved of liability to pay Lance the balance of his contract.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
How do you know that? It’s not like the Raiders just pulled the most active poster off Jerry MacDonald’s blog and handed him the keys. Reggie McKenzie was Director of Football Operations for arguably the most successful franchise in the NFL over the last 10-15 years. He was saddled with a poor roster, no draft and a salary cap out of control. I find it hard to believe anyone would give him 8 weeks to get that entire mess right.
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Oh he was huh? well to me it looks like he was moreso the director or the packers mail room with what he’s done with the raiders so far. I’d give more of the credit for the packers success to Wolfe than Reggie. If he truly learned from wolfe it doesn’t look like he took good notes thus far. And funny how it seems Al always got the players he wanted no matter the cap…
October 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
There’s a crew of former Al Davis bootlickers, now posting under different names, here to vindicate Al Davis at the expense of Reggie McKenzie.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Hawakagasukahiroson = no
Try to get your gay lover off the blog: he’s foul.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
muhahahahahaaaaaa
October 4th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
palmer due 17 million next year?!?!?! ouch
no wonder he is being much more careful with the ball he wants leverage when the raiders try to restructure him next year i guess.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
playersd leash extends until they prove or disprove that they fit a certain system, usually you get 1 season.
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Nope according to reg players dont even get 1. DVD and bruce campbell and even get 1 preseason.
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key word was usually, but i will admit i though it was a very bad idea to drop dvd, he is better than jansen and lee
October 4th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
PUBE STYLING UPDATE
Brohams, Dweebs and KrappRat
Phase 1 of my ultimate new pube ‘do has been completed. It took Hakanakakirasowa nearly 15 mins to scrub all the female jizz build-up out of my patch
That beats my previous record of 13.5 mins, holla
Now its on to the actual styling portion, where we’ll see if the legend is still the master
Could be the perfect time for a little Janet Jackson on the turntable
WRECKS N EFFECT, SHOUT OUT TO NYC
October 4th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
870.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
He should have never been hired in the first place thats the point. Th guy can barely speak english, talks like he has down syndrome and he’s out of breath from carrying that big a** lip around all day. I have 0 faith in that guy. He’s Matt Millen with a tan and a Fro.
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Racist BS, and shows where you’re coming from.
Credibility -1
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How is that racist??? im just stating fact… He is a horrible speaker, he does have a large bottom lip and imo I think he’s the second coming of Matt Millen a former raider turned GM in over his head.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
PUBE STYLING UPDATE
Brohams, Dweebs and KrappRat
Phase 1 of my ultimate new pube ‘do has been completed. It took Hakanakakirasowa nearly 15 mins to scrub all the female jizz build-up out of my patch
That beats my previous record of 13.5 mins, holla
Now its on to the actual styling portion, where we’ll see if the legend is still the master
Could be the perfect time for a little Janet Jackson on the turntable
WRECKS N EFFECT, SHOUT OUT TO NYC
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What an embarrassment for this blog.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
key word was usually, but i will admit i though it was a very bad idea to drop dvd, he is better than jansen and lee
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chuuurch
October 4th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
kk,
you know i loved the davis way, but i dont think it is necessary to juxtapose big mack and davis.
big mack will make his own legacy in his own vision, but he clearly has 3 super bowl trophies to earn before any favorable comparison for big mck would make sense.
comparing a rookie gm to davis is like comparing unproven tp6 to joe montatna
we have 50 years of davis to evaluate his body of work, big mack cant be judged on 4 games of his rookie campaign
October 4th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
if mark fires reggie he’s gonna pick whoever jon madden tells him, how old jon like 80? reggies here until he resigns or has a heart attack
October 4th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Hawakagasukahiroson = no
Try to get your gay lover off the blog: he’s foul.
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Impossible! Google that name 5 more times, then begin seaching him on Bing
If you haven’t found anything by 10pm tonight, continue searching until I appear on the blog tomorrow
At that point we’ll discuss a new plan of attack, that will most likely involve you using a new search engine
October 4th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
There’s a crew of former Al Davis bootlickers, now posting under different names, here to vindicate Al Davis at the expense of Reggie McKenzie.
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AD (BIH)
October 4th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
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October 4th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
He should have never been hired in the first place thats the point. Th guy can barely speak english, talks like he has down syndrome and he’s out of breath from carrying that big a** lip around all day. I have 0 faith in that guy. He’s Matt Millen with a tan and a Fro.
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Racist BS, “Big Lips, Can’t speak english, Matt Millen with a Tan & fro”
Racist Bull Sheet.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
key word was usually, but i will admit i though it was a very bad idea to drop dvd, he is better than jansen and lee
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Hanson and Lee did not play that poorly in the last game. They didn’t play well, but they certainly did not play poorly. Again, with no pass rush, they should have been playing more press coverage which is exactly what I said days before the game. Sitting 8-10 yards off the receivers and watching Manning play pitch and catch for three quarters was infuriating.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
How many rings does Reggie have?
October 4th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
there you are beechy. stop seeing antoine and come home to daddy
October 4th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Any mfkr who says Reggie shouldn’t have been hired, after recommendations by Ron Wolf and John Madden………..never mind.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
finish this sentence if Greg Knapp is fired…….
October 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
there you are beechy. stop seeing antoine and come home to daddy
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Beecham’s Gay Lover,
So does Beeech Dawg really swing both ways ?
October 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
How many rings does Reggie have?
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2 I believe. 96 and 2010.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Al Davis left Mark Davis the team. Mark didn’t weasel his way in, sue his mother, anything like that. Al put Mark in charge. Mark hired a GM. What you are seeing today are Al’s Oakland Raiders. Al put this owner in charge. Maybe Al always had a side where he wanted to run a system like this, with a modernized flow chart, but was a slave to his own delusions of winning one more Super Bowl with his system. Sort of like how you hate cracking your knuckles, but still do it.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
PUBE STYLING UPDATE
Brohams, Dweebs and KrappRat
Phase 1 of my ultimate new pube ‘do has been completed. It took Hakanakakirasowa nearly 15 mins to scrub all the female jizz build-up out of my patch
That beats my previous record of 13.5 mins, holla
Now its on to the actual styling portion, where we’ll see if the legend is still the master
Could be the perfect time for a little Janet Jackson on the turntable
WRECKS N EFFECT, SHOUT OUT TO NYC
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What an embarrassment for this blog.
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KrappyRat saddened for the integrity of the blog
Old fool, post a few hundred more of your political links to get things back on track
October 4th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
If Greg Knapp is fired…it will be two offensive coordinators in a row that needed to go.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Refresh phone
October 4th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
both ways? don’t be silly sweetie. beechy only goes one way: down. His hetero thing is an act, like tom cruise being a het.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Making fun of Reggie’s appearance = making fun of Al’s appearance.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Any mfkr who says Reggie shouldn’t have been hired, after recommendations by Ron Wolf and John Madden………..never mind.
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KK,
No disrespect intended but I now feel Reggie is an affirmative action hand-me-down from GB. GB just kept him around because it looked good to the commissioner all those years.
He didn’t do much as a player and it has been demonstrated he hasn’t done much as a manager.
Who, on a professional level, would hire his own brother to be a talent scout for the club, when the brother has no professional experience?
Also, Wolf and Madden, are relics from the past. I put no credence in any opionion either would have. Wolf himself admits he is no longer relevant in the NFL.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
finish this sentence if the zbs is canned but knapp kept on as play caller……
October 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
both ways? don’t be silly sweetie. beechy only goes one way: down. His hetero thing is an act, like tom cruise being a het.
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Beecham’s Gay Lover,
Really ??
October 4th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
liberace was more straight than my beechy dawg
October 4th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Beecham’s Gay Lover,
Well, to each his own, but why make a big show of het prowess?
October 4th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Also, Wolf and Madden, are relics from the past. I put no credence in any opionion either would have. Wolf himself admits he is no longer relevant in the NFL.
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That’s your problem. I surely, and 99% of Raider Fans put more credence in John Madden or Ron wolfs opinion on football matters, than yours.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
liberace was more straight than my beechy dawg
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lol…..
October 4th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
beechy has an inferior complex thats why he is here talking big. but most of the time he is just trying to find a penile enlarger that works. he’s tried every one of them
October 4th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
KK,
No reason to get in a huff. We are having a conversation. I am challenging anyone.
Of course Raiders’ Fans put much credence in Madden and Wolf, but that credence was misplaced in this instance, and that is a fact.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
PUBE ‘DO UPDATE #2
Blog Brahs, things are really getting straight FIZZLE up here at the Penthouse
Hawagawashirohoto has been using ancient gels to replicate the city of Shanghai using my pube patch, simply stunning
There’s a photographer here from “‘Pube Stylist Monthly” to document his comeback
On a down note, I think he dropped some boiling hot liquid wax on my nads
Should definitely leave a mark, whut whut
October 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
When you start talking about Big Lips & Fros’ dude. You are out of line.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Beechams Gay Lover,
With what we are born, we are born; that is difficult to change.
An obsession can ruin one’s life. Please tell him that. I think your Beeechy has talent, especially with language. That shouldn’t be wasted.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
There’s a crew of former Al Davis Bootlickers, now posting under different names, here to vindicate Al Davis at the expense of Reggie McKenzie, by any means necessary.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
874.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
There’s a crew of former Al Davis bootlickers, now posting under different names, here to vindicate Al Davis at the expense of Reggie McKenzie.
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You know kell… you could have just posted my name in the post like a man but Its alright though… I understand… You see what you don’t understand is, im a raiders fan. I love everything raiders but i’m also a realist. I don’t want to see Mckenzie fail because his success = the raiders success but being “real,” during his entire being here apart of this organization he’s done nothing that instills confidence me or half of this fan base. Im not hating on the guy but i’ve doubted a lot of his moves since day 1 and all of them have come back to bite him in the rear. From firing hue and not replacing him with someone who could run last years system, to the hiring of DA a DC who’s defense wasnt even ranked in the top 20 for pete sakes as our hc when Defense was our weakness last year, to the hiring of greg knapp, release of dvd a promising developmental cb for a old and washed up vet who’d never been a factor in this league in pat lee, undermining the old regime saying huff couldn’t play corner because his hips were too stiff then throwing him in at corner in week 3… I mean i’m not bashing this guy becasuse of al davis im bashing him because he hasn’t shown me any promise as a GM. The sole reason I bring up AL is because the same fans who aren’t so called “al bootlickers” have in turn become “Reggie Bootlickers” defending him with all his faults blindly because they’re just so happy he’s not al. Im bringing up the fact that many of us held al to a high standard so why should we stop critiqing now and cut this guy any slack???
October 4th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
When you start talking about Big Lips & Fros’ dude. You are out of line.
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If I had talked about “Big Lips and Fros”, I would be out of line. It’s racist. However, I never mentioned such subject matter. Scroll back and check the posts.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
When you start talking about Big Lips & Fros’ dude. You are out of line.
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Remember when you chased Bubba Paris around the County Fair? That was definitely not out of line.
HOLLA
October 4th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
You know kell… you could have just posted my name in the post like a man but Its alright though…
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I’m not saying you’re the only one, (as far as I know)
October 4th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
did you here the blog beechy dawg? they are all telling you to come home to me
October 4th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I can agree with a lot of what you’re saying. But when you start putting criticism in a racial context, you lose me.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
When you start talking about Big Lips & Fros’ dude. You are out of line
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Lmao thats the most ridiculos crap i’ve ever herard. I said he had a big lip (singular) and a fro. so what? He does, I just gave a discription of him. He’s matt millen except he has these features… whats wrong with that? (shrugs)
October 4th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Ashes to ashes
Dust to dust
Al Davis is no longer with us.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
kk,
It was Mack who made the big lips, fro comment.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Reggies Lips or his “Fro” have nothing to do with his job as GM of the Raiders.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Brahs, I’ve been so inspired by my super dope Pan Asian pube ‘do that I wrote a brand new 2 Kewl 4 Skool jam that’s sure to go platinum
This is all about having a 1 ft. weiner, a dope pube style and, unfortunately, burnt nads
It’s called “Girl, You Make Me Crazee”
Baby, I got a hot pair of nuts, so I gotta wear a cup
No, literally, my boys are burnin’ up
My pubes are mo fly, that’s why I wrote this song
Did I tell you my weiner is now 12 inches long?
But let’s get to the truth, I’m just hitting puberty
Shout out to USA and of course Lady Liberty
WRECKS N FULL EFFECT
October 4th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Dog Whistles.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
KrappyRat saddened for the integrity of the blog
Old fool, post a few hundred more of your political links to get things back on track
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Now that made me laugh
October 4th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Raiders 243 yards through first 4 games is lowest in the teams history, ZBS must go now
October 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
KrappyRat saddened for the integrity of the blog
Old fool, post a few hundred more of your political links to get things back on track
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Are you Dumb Beech’s Beech, or Dumb Beech?
October 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Quite frankly, it’s a liiiiittle early for the GM criticism. Unless, of course, you expect him to bat 1000 on his moves.
Wheeler, Burris, Streater, and Goodson have all been solid moves. If Bergstrom comes outta the bye week as a starter, then that’s another plus.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Hey Beech you think Hawagawashirohoto has time to give good ole kell the Easy E jerry curl….
October 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Beeeech Dawg Says:
September 21st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Thinking about putting out a new music vid from my newest hitmakers, The NEW BEEECH
BOYZ:
DJ Johnny
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Hardline (aka Big Nasty)
DMAC R8ER Mike
Bo Schembechler Jackson
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Plunketthead
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Never mind
October 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
The caveman on NFL32 said he thinks the Raiders are second guessing the ZBS, said DMC is not a good.
The fans knew this, why the fk did it take so long for this new regime to figure this out? Didn’t they watch film and/or listen to big Wiz and Saunders? Im sure those two told them this is not the best scheme for DMC.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
And the lil biachi meltdown has officially begun! Look at her scrambling for the blogs attention. Pathetic.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
McKenzie made the same type of young up and coming HC hire that Al Davis used to make.
Only difference is he let that HC hire all of his assts. I can’t really see that being a bad thing.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Keep ZBS, change personnel where need be. We’re moving into the future, not clinging to the mediocrity of the past.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
KK
You wished he was dead and called Al everything but a white man for 5 years in here and now you are telling someone else they cant make fun of reggie?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Hey Beech you think Hawagawashirohoto has time to give good ole kell the Easy E jerry curl….
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I don’t think KrappyWife has $700 left in her account to pay for it
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
October 4th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
MR did you bump your head?
You have been making sense lately and coming up with some good posts
keep up the good worK!
October 4th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
If I were sensitive to people making fun of Al, I wouldn’t make fun of ANYONE’S personal appearance. Al Davis’s appearance was exceptionally disturbing in his final days, more so than other people his age.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I’m not joking, and I’m not making fun. But Al appearing on t.v. looking the way he did in his final years was more proof of the bubble he lived in, and how nobody had the power to intervene into his disastrous life. Nobody had the balls to step in and just tell him he’s NOT going on t.v. looking like that. He was really hard to look at. And I’m not saying to make fun. I’m speaking from a health perspective. He shouldn’t have been on t.v. anymore than someone with fresh wounds from an auto accident shouldn’t be on t.v. It was hard to watch.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
KrappyRat saddened for the integrity of the blog
Old fool, post a few hundred more of your political links to get things back on track
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Now that made me laugh
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Plunk weren’t you there the night KrappyRat was blogging on his anniversary?
I know there were a bunch of us there goofin’ on him
Poor old fool claims he forgot all about it. I’m being totally serious
October 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
It was hard to watch.
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Looking at Al was easy. Watching the team play on Sundays? That’s hard.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I hate bye weeks. This blog makes me hate them even more…
October 4th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
JLofty Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I hate bye weeks. This blog makes me hate them even more…
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Lol!
October 4th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
930.J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Quite frankly, it’s a liiiiittle early for the GM criticism. Unless, of course, you expect him to bat 1000 on his moves.
Wheeler, Burris, Streater, and Goodson have all been solid moves. If Bergstrom comes outta the bye week as a starter, then that’s another plus.
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Wheeler and Burris are his only solid moves. Streater is an average player at best and we weren’t hurting at the Wr position until Reggie got here…
Coching change is looking like a bust so far, and besides 2 players each player move has been a bust. He doesn’t have to bat 1000 but 200 aint cuttin it. We’re 1-3 right now an uncompetitive 1-3 at that.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Klas wants to dedicate this song to Raider Nation. It from his favorite musical Annie:
The sun’ll come out tomorrow Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there’ll be sun Just thinkin’ about tomorrow Clears away the cobwebs and the sorrow till there’s none
When I’m stuck with a day that’s gray and lonely I just stick out my chin and grin and say
The sun’ll come out tomorrow So you got to hang on till tomorrow, came what may! Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you, tomorrow You’re always a day away
I just stick out my chin and grin and say
The sun’ll come out tomorrow So you got to hang on till tomorrow, came what may! Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you, tomorrow You’re always a day away
Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow You’re always a day away
October 4th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Fan since 77′ uh im a little hurt Nation! This is as bad as the Jay Shraider. An Jamarcus years!! This is just BAD!!
October 4th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
If they are stuck on the ZBS so much that they will just dump DMC than they better bring in someone that can coach it, Knapp and Pollack obviously don’t have a clue how to coach it up.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
You see I didn’t mention goodson in that post right? yea… thats how I feel about him. We had micheal bush in his spot last year, so thats more of a downgrade in my mind. But thats typical, all Reggie does is down grade and replace talented players with lesser ones… all ive seen from him thus far.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Reggie is batting a thousand;
first rounders are supposed to be automatic starters as should second rounders at some point in their rookie season;
thirds are not expected to be starters until second year
4th rounders and beyond are simply role players at best.
That Burris is starting due to his performance as much as due to Curry’s knees equates to Reggie batting a thousand.
free agent pick ups; Wheeler, Streater (who has much more upside than Murphy or Schilens ever had or will), along with Smith and Carter proves that Reggie knows what he is doing. Nix will be something special as well, you watch.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I would say Goodson, Burris, Wheeler, Streater are alll solid for the draft situation he walked into (terrrible) and cap room (enemic).
Crawford looks tough for the future and Criner will get his shot eventually. Bilukidi? Bergstrom? Projects thus far.
Briesel looks overpaid or is it the failing schemes of Knapp?
So’oto will be a nice addition once rolling and Andre Carter was nice.
Brandian Ross might get some CB and allow Huff ot go back to FS soon.
I mean the injury bug wiped out reggie’s big moves:
Spencer & Bartell.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Fan since 77′ uh im a little hurt Nation! This is as bad as the Jay Shraider. An Jamarcus years!! This is just BAD!!
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In hindsight, Jay Schroeder wasn’t so awful. Better than most garbage QBs Raiders have had since him.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Klas can’t believe he just praised Jay Schroeder!
October 4th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Streater is an average player at best and we weren’t hurting at the Wr position until Reggie got here…
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The GM traded Lou Murphy. What else did he do to the WR corps?
Murphy wasn’t going to be higher than 4th on the depth chart, so going with Criner and Streater is not really a move I would try to clown.
The only “moves” that haven’t worked out are Briesel, Branch, Spencer, and Bartell.
Briesel played fore the Oline coach. GM should have told him no?
Branch was a CLEAR mistake. But Raider Nation loves Branch. Imagine the uproar had the GM let him walk.
DVD played himself off the roster by his lack of physicality. I was a big fan of DVD. I could see why he was cut.
There are A LOT of players here that had nothing to do with the GM. Not every coach is new. Do any of them have any responsibility for our 1-3 start?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Even though I hate zbs; that Reggie is allowing the head coach to have complete control over his staff and schemes (sink or swim) will give the Raider credibility in hiring coaches in the future.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
The Mack Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
You see I didn’t mention goodson in that post right? yea… thats how I feel about him. We had micheal bush in his spot last year, so thats more of a downgrade in my mind. But thats typical, all Reggie does is down grade and replace talented players with lesser ones… all ive seen from him thus far.
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Interesting take.
Brings up the question, isn’t a “rebuilding” project about getting rid of the bad players and replacing them with better ones?
You guys love to say it takes 5-10 yrs. or whatever to do that, but isn’t that supposed to be the idea?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Goodson hasn’t done schit running the ball either in this scheme. This O-line hasn’t ben coached up in this ZBS schit, the coaches are to blame here since we have ben #2 and #7 in rushing the last 2 years with the same players on the O-line except for Briesel who was Reggies big FA pickup and is the highest paid O-lineman we have
October 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Raiders doo not defeat Jacksonville, expect wholesale trades.
Reggie’s Raiders just might have the most mid round draft picks in NFL history.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Reggie is batting a thousand;
first rounders are supposed to be automatic starters as should second rounders at some point in their rookie season;
thirds are not expected to be starters until second year
4th rounders and beyond are simply role players at best.
That Burris is starting due to his performance as much as due to Curry’s knees equates to Reggie batting a thousand.
free agent pick ups; Wheeler, Streater (who has much more upside than Murphy or Schilens ever had or will), along with Smith and Carter proves that Reggie knows what he is doing. Nix will be something special as well, you watch.
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Unfortunately his winning % is not even half of a thousand.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
You do realize Mike Bush was a FA and CHOSE to go to the Bears, right?
Mike Bush got all of 3 or 4 carries a game when DMac was healthy. LMFAO at you cats who throw so much on a BACKUP player.
Are you really suggesting paying Bush 4 million or so per year would have our running game on point?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Knapp and Pollack obviously don’t have a clue how to coach it up.
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No chance of RG, LG, and RT just needing better players?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
after Atlanta; Raiders have Jacksonville, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay all winnable games;
Raiders could be 4-4 by the time we play Baltimore.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Why waste money on Bush, he would just be handcuffed by the Knappster anyway. No back is doin schit here until they bring in someone to coach this line back up to where it was before. We should just bring back Wylie and Wiz the dynamic magic mushroom duo, they coached the fk out of this line.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
949.realtruraider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
If they are stuck on the ZBS so much that they will just dump DMC than they better bring in someone that can coach it, Knapp and Pollack obviously don’t have a clue how to coach it up.
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^^^^ This coaching staff is so great at sucking they make even Dmac look like a 7th rounder. smh I can’t believe you guy’s don’t see it. Do you know how bad of a coaching staff you have to be to make a Mvp caliber player look that bad??? Dmac is by far our best player, and not only that, 1 of the best rb’s in the league, if he can’t run behind this line the way they’re being coached then i don’t know what rb can. Trading Dmc wont change a thing. We get outgame planned and outcoached each halftime. Im telling you it’s the lame coaches ontop of little talent. And the little talent that we do have the coaches are too clueless on how to use it to even maximize on it. The blind can’t lead the blind. Im sorry but DA must be 1 awesome interview because I still dont see how he got this job.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Reggie was not about to sell anymore of the Raiders future on a team that MIGHT’VE reached the playoffs at best.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Do you guys feel the pick Carson threw in the Pittsburgh game was Knapps fault?
Should the OC know the field position and that the route the receiver was running had his cut right in the middle of the dirt?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Palmer – we’re not going anywhere. There’s work to do
Seymour – can’t worry about it or get down. Gotta have fun.
Glad TP is leaning on Palmer.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
No chance of RG, LG, and RT just needing better players?
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NO NOT A CHANCE
October 4th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
What’s kinda weird is some tend to equate criticism of Reggie as somehow racial, yet a huge amount of the critics are mad at him cuz they wish we still had a black man as our head coach.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Do you guys feel the pick Carson threw in the Pittsburgh game was Knapps fault?
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Certainly wasn’t Palmer’s fault. Ball came out before DMo slipped.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Its obvious its not the players on the offensive side of the ball, its the damn coaches PERIOD
October 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
No chance of RG, LG, and RT just needing better players?
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NO NOT A CHANCE
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Really???
Briesel and the RT are good players that are jus suffering from bad line coaching?
Carlisle isn’t physically overmatched each week in his 18th year as a starter?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The Shroeder years best Defense we ever had Willie Shaw, but could get a first down on Offense! Same thing only our Defense sucks bad now!
October 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
961.J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
You do realize Mike Bush was a FA and CHOSE to go to the Bears, right?
Mike Bush got all of 3 or 4 carries a game when DMac was healthy. LMFAO at you cats who throw so much on a BACKUP player.
Are you really suggesting paying Bush 4 million or so per year would have our running game on point?
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Only reason I bnrought up bush is because you wanted to give Reggie praise for trading for goodson and the point I was making was how can you praise him for that trade when our last back up was even better. which makes goodson more of a downgrade more than anything but youre ready to put reggie in canton like he found the next terrel davis. Im telling you mike goodson isn’t worthy of being mentioned as a positive addition because 1. he’s a backup and 2. hes not even better than our previous backup so save the “he brought in Mike goodson” talk as an accomplishment for somebody else. Get it correct
October 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Im out, STAY POSITIVE RAIDER NATION. Oh yeah and be patient Knapp said we made big strides the last game.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Carlisle isn’t physically overmatched each week in his 18th year as a starter?
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No hes not
October 4th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Briesel and the RT are good players that are jus suffering from bad line coaching?
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Briesel and the rt were hand picked and brought in by those same coches. So is their fault for being poor evaluators. Once again… “Bad coaching”
October 4th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Its obvious its not the players on the offensive side of the ball,
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Disagree.
I think we miss Ford and DHBs speed. Streater and Hagan are not on the same level. The drop off on talent is going to show up in the offense.
Wiz is playing C this year. He’s a better LG. Certainly a better LG than Carlisle is.
Al Davis drafted Wiz to be a C.
Myers can’t block. Gordon’s injury was felt.
I see so many things not related to the coaches that ar effin the offense up.
Collective cluster phugg, imo.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Only reason I bnrought up bush is because you wanted to give Reggie praise for trading for goodson and the point I was making was how can you praise him for that trade when our last back up was even better. which makes goodson more of a downgrade more than anything but youre ready to put reggie in canton like he found the next terrel davis. Im telling you mike goodson isn’t worthy of being mentioned as a positive addition because 1. he’s a backup and 2. hes not even better than our previous backup so save the “he brought in Mike goodson” talk as an accomplishment for somebody else. Get it correct
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The way I see it is Reggie traded Beast for Goodson.
He got a player that can make a contribution for one that hasn’t.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Was Carlisle and Briesel overmatched last year? Briesel was damn good in Houston and Carlisle was damn good for us last year, but keep makin excuses for this first time O-line coach and his golf buddy Knapp
October 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Goodson was brought in to replace Notwright AND fill the backup role.
He’s our starting return guy, core STs player, and decent backup RB.
And he didn’t have to pay 4 million to get it done.
Solid move.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The only way i could forgive Reggie is after the season he says “i messed up! I went with my gut and took a chance on Dennis Allen i gave him complete control of his staff and it was to much for him so i had to release him and his staff! I will persue a EXPERIENCED Coach who may of been here before!
October 4th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Briesel was damn good in Houston and Carlisle was damn good for us last year, but keep makin excuses for this first time O-line coach
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I thought the Oline coach came over from Houston and brought Briesel with him?
Carlisle was not good last year and is a year older.
4 games into their Raider careers, I don’t know one way or the other if the Oline coach stinks. But I do know PLAYERS make plays, not excuses.
What exactly is it you expect the Oline coach to do with the NFL Olinemen? Shouldn’t they simply already know how to block?
October 4th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
What a most awesome blog day for the Beeech Diggity Dawg on the Big Bliggity Blog
Here are some totally sweet highlights:
* Smacked Peemore Nob Bust and his sockpuppets into another hilarious meltdown
* Ran circles around KrappyRat until he was forced to claim senility
* Got a hella dope new pube ‘do from Japanese styling legend Hirahakahahadoodoo that’s going to put 2K4S over the top
* Just finished tapping this MiLF with a huge fake rack to Rush’s Grace Under Pressure (trust me, brahs – the Beeeech Lawg is NO LONGER under pressure. If you know what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the fact I just busted a huge load)
Got the PARTYDUDE 8000 warming up for some hot marg action tonight and USC v Utah, holla back, suckas
DATS THE WAY THE BEEECH DAWG BARKS, MEOW
October 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Goodson was brought in to replace Notwright AND fill the backup role.
He’s our starting return guy, core STs player, and decent backup RB.
And he didn’t have to pay 4 million to get it done.
Solid move.
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I’d add that Goodson would make for a better transition with respect to the Offense and play calls if DMAC were to go down for a game or 10.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
The only way i could forgive Reggie is after the season he says “i messed up! I went with my gut and took a chance on Dennis Allen i gave him complete control of his staff and it was to much for him so i had to release him and his staff! I will persue a EXPERIENCED Coach who may of been here before!
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So fire DA and bring back Joe Bugle. lol
Bugle has ties to Raleigh Mckenzie after all.
October 4th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
There is going to be a lot of $ to spend next year.
Seymour’s 14 million coming off the books. Briesel won’t see anymore of that contract, and Huff is probably gone too.
Who else are we paying???
October 4th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
He’s our starting return guy, core STs player, and decent backup RB.
And he didn’t have to pay 4 million to get it done.
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and our sts has looked how this year??? Oh yea, Reggie changed that too… Good move right? hmm
October 4th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Shyit i aint got any problem with Joe Bugel
October 4th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
They’re talking about bringing back Bugel now. See? See why I usually play contrarian to you guys? I knew this talk of getting rid of Knapp would eventually descend into “Long Live AL!”. It’s not Knapp you guys have a problem with. It’s the organization heading in a new direction. Knapp is just the easiest target so far. Bugel. Good f ‘n grief.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
BECAUSE BUGEL WON 3 SUPER BOWLS SINCE LEAVING LEAVING HERE. YEAH. SURE.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
you get what you pay for….
October 4th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
ill take bugel over this krapp
October 4th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Please Cork, something, anything!
October 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Danny, don’t worry. Reggie will apologize for his mistakes at the same rate Al did.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
and our sts has looked how this year???
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Certainly no worse than the past few years.
Our return game was PUHHTHETIC the past few years with the exception of the occasional Ford highlight.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Bugel sucked as HC. Bugel sucked as OC as I recall.
Bugel was a solid OL coach in the nineties when I was still a young man. Neither is the case any more…
October 4th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Shyit i aint got any problem with Joe Bugel
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LOL
As what, Oline coach?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
weve had how many punts blocked?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Ya, we are gonna bring Bugle back…LOL!
October 4th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Al never apologized for anything until about 2006. Got on t.v. and admitted the team sucked, even said it was his fault. A rare moment of clarity, and a marvelous moment for haters like me because he got right up there and debunked his own loyal followers! That was it. It took Al years to own up. And you guys want an apology from Reggie after 4 games. Go suck on a tailpipe.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Veldheer-Wiz-Parsons-Carilse-Bergstrom
Yes, Mack.
I will fault the coaches if we come outta the buy with no changes to the starting Oline.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Even better, once Norv Turner gets fired…new OC.
Bring back Art Shell to coach the O-Line!
John Shoop as the TEs coach!
October 4th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
So let me get this straight.
DMac, ALONE, was supposed to take a team that choked down the stretch to a 1-4 finish, and do what again?
1-4 the last 5 games we saw, old scheme and all!!!!
Reggie, DA, Krapp, and Tarver had nothing to do with that last 5 games we sucked. Why is it such a surprise we STILL suck?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Evening Dutch and Len.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
The Problem I have with the “new regime” is the cronyism they are exhibiting. Reggie hiring his twin brother that was previously a Special Education teacher. Also Allen hiring Knapp which is his golfing buddy. This is simply unacceptable.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
@J-Hill
Been playing Madden?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I guess the Al Davis hate has no end, well suit yourselves.
However, you’d better believe AD kept working until his final breath, and I’m sure he left a “to do list” with Marky and Amy, which I’m sure had BigMac and Al Saunders on the list, and HueSux out of it.
And I’m also for damn sure, he didn’t have Krappy and or Tarver on that list, that’s on BigMac and Robocoach Jr.
It’s all on BigMac now to get it done or get out of Oaktown. How long can we patient? Not very. Is Marky strong enough to make BigMac accountable? I doubt it, but who knows, for damn sure Amy is. Let’s see.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I think record wise Norv Turner was the worst head coach in Oakland Raider history. Kiffin’s ineligible because he didn’t have two complete seasons. That’s a rule I made up just now.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
The toughest pill to swallow for Me was Knapp’s remark that He saw progress in the run game after Denver kicked our ass.
I’m glad he sees something, because I surely didn’t.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Evening Dutch and Len.
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Evening J Hill
Warriors are gonna get ya this year…lol
October 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
997.J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
and our sts has looked how this year???
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Certainly no worse than the past few years.
Our return game was PUHHTHETIC the past few years with the exception of the occasional Ford highlight.
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You know thats a lie J hill. What about the Boss Fake fg td? Cartwright fake punt return. The return game was solid last year and the year before, even better under kiffin. But this new regime??? not so much. Lechler has never had a punt blocked in his entire career til now and he’s been around since the woodsons were on the team. So save that. Im done talking to you though, because you won’t be honest and you’re just going to make another lame excuse either way so its pointless. Enjoy your kool aid.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Oh, Zopi, we know Al worked until his final breath. We could see his signature all over the product.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Zopi Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I guess the Al Davis hate has no end, well suit yourselves.
However, you’d better believe AD kept working until his final breath, and I’m sure he left a “to do list” with Marky and Amy, which I’m sure had BigMac and Al Saunders on the list, and HueSux out of it.
And I’m also for damn sure, he didn’t have Krappy and or Tarver on that list, that’s on BigMac and Robocoach Jr.
It’s all on BigMac now to get it done or get out of Oaktown. How long can we patient? Not very. Is Marky strong enough to make BigMac accountable? I doubt it, but who knows, for damn sure Amy is. Let’s see.
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Al Davis provided me with some great moments early in my life and owe Him the respect He engendered in Me.
I’d have liked to see him entrust larger roles to qualified people as he got older.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Dutch,
I took a couple years off rom Madden. Bought the new one a couplke weeks ago. I have lost all my skills, lol.
Or maybe it’s the players, not the “coach”, lol.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
#1011;
RaiderLen you need to invest in a microscope, the ones in the toy section at Walmart work just fine that’s what Knapp uses.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
What about the Boss Fake fg td?
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The one that got called back and didn’t count?
LMFAO!
You don’t want to chop it up becuase I disagree with you on SOME points?
Allrighteethen, as they say.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
#1011;
RaiderLen you need to invest in a microscope, the ones in the toy section at Walmart work just fine that’s what Knapp uses.
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Hahahahahaha!
No shiiiit. lol
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Evaluation Process in full swing- someone tell Mark were evaluating everything as well!! Owner, GM, Coaches, and players!!
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
1016.J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Dutch,
I took a couple years off rom Madden. Bought the new one a couplke weeks ago. I have lost all my skills, lol.
Or maybe it’s the players, not the “coach”, lol.
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Yeah, same thing. Buddy of mine is always really into it. Girlfriend’s friend works for EA, so I can get it for $20.
Just don’t have the patience for a whole game.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Len,
I like the moves the Ws have made. Hopefully Curry can stay healthy for you and lead a push to the playoffs.
But “get us”???
Not likely.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
progressin therun game?….smfh….
October 4th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
The toughest pill to swallow for Me was Knapp’s remark that He saw progress in the run game after Denver kicked our ass.
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Did he say that?
Did he elaborate?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I’ll buy into ‘the personnel on offense isn’t as solid this year as last year’ argument.
For argument’s sake, let’s assume that’s true.
Here’s the relevant question:
Is this coaching staff, especially Krapp, getting the most out of what they have to work with ?
Are you satisfied with the play calling ?
Does the scheme maximize production and is it best suited to the players we have ?
I can unhesitatingly answer the above questions with a resounding NO.
If you can answer YES, or of you’re not sure, then by all means – show some patience and continue to support Krapp, and by extension, Tits.
Personally, I’m angry as fck over what I see and have ZERO faith in Krapp’s play calling or system. Tits is right behind him.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Len,
I like the moves the Ws have made. Hopefully Curry can stay healthy for you and lead a push to the playoffs.
But “get us”???
Not likely.
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I hear ya,
Howard is a nice get. A bit immature, but a great player.
I’m just pokin’ the bear. lol
Warriors ownership are Sharks.
They WILL be heard from on the court eventually.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
99,
I am not happy with the play calling in general.
Not really bothered by the “scheme”.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Raiders special teams were one of the best last couple of years; only weakness was punt return segment, but it never hurt us.
KO returns were excellent, coverages on KOs and punts were consistent, with an occasional breakdown; we used to be the team that would block punts, fgs, and xps, now ours are getting blocked all the time.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
The toughest pill to swallow for Me was Knapp’s remark that He saw progress in the run game after Denver kicked our ass.
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Did he say that?
Did he elaborate?
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He did.
I don’t have the exact quote, but the “progress” had to do with the OL understanding their assignments, and execution?
I just remember reading it and thinking, “what a load of BS”.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@Jhill
Bad….
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Knapp-Insists-Raiders-Running-Game-is-Picking-Up-Speed-172667671.html
October 4th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2012
Third-down boot camp
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The Raiders are ranked 30th on offense in converting third downs (15-for-51, 28 percent). So, why not run those 51 plays again in practice this bye week?
“We went back through ‘em, watched ‘em all multiple times,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “Repped ‘em in walkthroughs, repped ‘em in practice, against our defense, against the looks we saw in games.
“It’s good to have this chance, this early to kind of do a self-scout, self-evaluation to look at why, and it’s really frustrating to watch on film because we’re just an inch off here and an inch off there.
“It’s been really good to get everybody on the same page and see why certain things we do well work and why certain things that we didn’t do well didn’t work and how we can make adjustments,” Palmer said. “It’s been a good week.”
The coaching staff is taken a similar approach on the other side of the ball, as defensively, the Raiders are last (32-for-60, 53 percent) on third downs.
Briefly: The NFL said it is “monitoring” the situation with regards to a scheduling conflict if the A’s reach the American League Championship Series. The Raiders could move their Oct. 21 game against Jacksonville from Sunday to Monday night. … Receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey practiced for a second straight day after coming back from a concussion. “He looked fine,” Allen said. “He’s not quite fully back but, obviously, there’s been a lot of improvement. So, that’s encouraging.”
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Greg Knapp poured a little more gasoline on the fire that is the Raiders’ fan base’s ire Wednesday.
After all, Oakland ranks dead last in the NFL in rushing at 60.8 yards per game – after finishing second in 2010 and seventh last year – and most of the blame has fallen on the new offensive coordinator.
Last week at Denver, the Raiders had 56 yards, with Darren McFadden getting bounced around after gaining 34 on 13 carries. And Knapp, who should probably stay off the internet, said, “I thought we made good strides last week.”
He thought the running game looked more efficient, “we just didn’t have any break out runs, but we did have more consistency,” he said. The new zone-blocking scheme requires the offensive linemen to move together and block a certain area and create cut-back lanes for running backs.
Knapp said the linemen did a better job with their run assignments and with communicating with each other.
“Unfortunately for us, we got into a game where we had to start playing catch up and had to throw the ball more in that last quarter and a half,” Knapp said. “The improvements that we had made in the first two and a half quarters we weren’t able to use as much in the last quarter and a half because we had to start throwing the ball.”
As far as McFadden, who has 201 yards after having 468 through four games last season, Knapp said, “Darren’s doing well. He is running very hard and I have been very pleased with that I have seen so far. So he is doing fine.”
October 4th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
POST-1020,YEP,WHO EVALUATES THE EVALUATERS..
October 4th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Sorry for the long post, but Knapp’s remarks are contained within.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
McClain Hit piece..As Jhill said, if McClain is hurt, then Goethel must be awful.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Raiders-notes-Jogging-McClain-run-game-s?blockID=783581&feedID=2539
October 4th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Thanks for the links fellas.
I mean, really …
If 55 is as bad as some of you think he is, (and hey, amybe he is) why do you really think he is still playing?
October 4th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
The Raiders are ranked 30th on offense in converting third downs (15-for-51, 28 percent). So, why not run those 51 plays again in practice this bye week?
“We went back through ‘em, watched ‘em all multiple times,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “Repped ‘em in walkthroughs, repped ‘em in practice, against our defense, against the looks we saw in games.
“It’s good to have this chance, this early to kind of do a self-scout, self-evaluation to look at why, and it’s really frustrating to watch on film because we’re just an inch off here and an inch off there.
“It’s been really good to get everybody on the same page and see why certain things we do well work and why certain things that we didn’t do well didn’t work and how we can make adjustments,” Palmer said. “It’s been a good week.”
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Not sure what else the coaches can do.
Pretty sure this is the same type of evaluation that’s been going on all along WITH the player’s involvement.
Players just need to step up.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@J Hill
Could be #55 body just can’t take it…Crohn’s disease?
Really hope it isn’t a lack of effort.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Thanks for the links fellas.
I mean, really …
If 55 is as bad as some of you think he is, (and hey, amybe he is) why do you really think he is still playing?
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The ONLY way I run McClain out their is because Goethal is just as lazy, and less talented.
My vision of a MLB is an animal that is sideline to sideline, running all over the field to make a play.
Need to put Phil Wheeler’s heart in ROMACS body.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
If you think about three starters are out on D: Curry, Spencer and Bartel.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Who watches the watchmen?
October 4th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Could be #55 body just can’t take it…Crohn’s disease?
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VERY surprising we would take a player with a disease. Especially one that could impact his play.
RED FLAG, wouldn’t you say?
October 4th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Not sure what else the coaches can do.
Pretty sure this is the same type of evaluation that’s been going on all along WITH the player’s involvement.
Players just need to step up.
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So by extension, Knapp lacks the horses and is giving “praise” relative to the talent.
Fuuuuk.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
You don’t take middle linebackers in the first round and certainly not ones with Crohn’s disease… dumb
October 4th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Need to put Phil Wheeler’s heart in ROMACS body.
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Nah …
55 is a BIG BOY. Someone his size is not going to be the sideline animal you seek.
55 should be playing ILB, not MLB.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Really hope it isn’t a lack of effort.
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I would think that would show up on film and the coaches and his teammates wouldn’t stand for it.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Criticizing Reggie is retarded. I mean he inherited a franchise that has lost more games than anyone the last 10 years or is in the top 5 in that category.
The cap situation was a disaster, we have been the laughingstock of the league.
I am still not happy about Knapp like most of you, should have kept Hue’s play book. Looks like no matter what happened we were doomed to suck from the get go.
I still have hope. I’m going to the Ravens game and we better be 4-4 by then.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Need to put Phil Wheeler’s heart in ROMACS body.
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Nah …
55 is a BIG BOY. Someone his size is not going to be the sideline animal you seek.
55 should be playing ILB, not MLB.
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Ok, then how about he get 3/4’s of the sideline to sideline covered. lol
I’ve pretty much written Romac off, but I’d like to see him in a 3-4 as a last ditch effort, so as to not lose out on a 3 year investment.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
303Raider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Criticizing Reggie is retarded. I mean he inherited a franchise that has lost more games than anyone the last 10 years or is in the top 5 in that category.
The cap situation was a disaster, we have been the laughingstock of the league.
I am still not happy about Knapp like most of you, should have kept Hue’s play book. Looks like no matter what happened we were doomed to suck from the get go.
I still have hope. I’m going to the Ravens game and we better be 4-4 by then.
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Reggie hired DA and Reggie let DA hire Knapp. Yes criticizing Reggie is warranted. To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.
Reggie inherited a 8-8 team with major potential. Instead of building on it his “ego” tore it apart. Looks like this will give the Raiders some long term damages. Windows of opportunities to “win” are short.
Oh and Al NEVER had a problem with the cap. How come all of a sudden Reggie does? Cop out.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
ATTENTION knapp Haters!
knapp says we are making strides with the ZBS.
We Are!
If you look at going backwards, in reverse, regressing, and think you are blowing smoke up some ass, then YES, we are making strides. knapp haters, stand down, you need to change the way you look at what YOU call making strides.
October 4th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Really funny. Check it out:
http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv
October 4th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Sometimes you need to take a few steps backwards to take a leap forward.
We are all excited about 8-8, we are really a desperate fan base.
Reggie needs time, those are the facts. He was also left with NO draft picks. Can we a least blame that on some one else?
October 4th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RaidO, you ever had a job, a real job.
What do you know about the cap?
What do you know about anything?
October 4th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
“To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.”
I hear you man that was a lame move.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I really wish we could have gotten Chris Long.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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Especially todays posts. My word. It just gets flat out ass nasty in here.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
“To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.”
I hear you man that was a lame move.
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One of the ways it gets spun (and I hate this) is by minimizing the 8-8 season and any success in it as being a “weak” 8-8…or a “mirage”.
Before the season everyone knew it was a tough schedule; some even called it brutal. Guys talk about how we “barely won” certain games and got blown out in others. You either win or you lose. Simple.
I even saw a post that attempted to diminish the win at SD becuz “Carson was basically playing in his backyard from his home in LaJolla”. WTF difference does that make? Geez.
Here’s the thing. I can take our 76 Raider team and go thru the schedule game by game and make a case that “we shouldn’t have won that”. “Yeah we barely beat Pittsburgh that first game” “If Stabler didn’t play out of his mind and lead us back from 14 down in the 4th we lose that game…period”.
Ok…
There were more than a few games Raiders won that yr. that were close…and “we could’ve lost”. Guess what? WE DIDN’T. That’s how sports is…sometimes you win close games. You can’t just diminish wins that are close cuz “it could’ve gone either way”.
So if we don’t blow a team out it shouldn’t count? Or it’s a “mirage”.
Give the Pats the Lombardi for last yr. cuz after all “Giants could’ve easily lost. IF Brady hits that last hail mary or Gronkowski is a few feet to his left he makes that catch. It’s a “weak” Super Bowl win”.
You know what kind of people spend time diminishing Raider wins and any successes?
Bronco and Charger fans.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Troll Master Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.
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Especially todays posts. My word. It just gets flat out ass nasty in here.
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National media and most of America already think Raider fans are lowlifes.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
HOLLA
missus b just got home from a long day at work. i’m a refuse technician at the local transfer station, so whin i com home and have to drop a duece on the living room floor, its almost a breth of fresh air. aint no garbage dump got nuthin on me. me and holla aint got nuthin to hide.
DRIZZLE WIZZLE AND MO SCHIZZLE
October 4th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
“To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.”
I hear you man that was a lame move.
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One of the ways it gets spun (and I hate this) is by minimizing the 8-8 season and any success in it as being a “weak” 8-8…or a “mirage”.
Before the season everyone knew it was a tough schedule; some even called it brutal. Guys talk about how we “barely won” certain games and got blown out in others. You either win or you lose. Simple.
I even saw a post that attempted to diminish the win at SD becuz “Carson was basically playing in his backyard from his home in LaJolla”. WTF difference does that make? Geez.
Here’s the thing. I can take our 76 Raider team and go thru the schedule game by game and make a case that “we shouldn’t have won that”. “Yeah we barely beat Pittsburgh that first game” “If Stabler didn’t play out of his mind and lead us back from 14 down in the 4th we lose that game…period”.
Ok…
There were more than a few games Raiders won that yr. that were close…and “we could’ve lost”. Guess what? WE DIDN’T. That’s how sports is…sometimes you win close games. You can’t just diminish wins that are close cuz “it could’ve gone either way”.
So if we don’t blow a team out it shouldn’t count? Or it’s a “mirage”.
Give the Pats the Lombardi for last yr. cuz after all “Giants could’ve easily lost. IF Brady hits that last hail mary or Gronkowski is a few feet to his left he makes that catch. It’s a “weak” Super Bowl win”.
You know what kind of people spend time diminishing Raider wins and any successes?
Bronco and Charger fans.
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Yeah i like how you brought up the NY Giants there. Every other year it seams like those Giants fans were calling for Tom Coughlin to be fired. “CONTINUITY” won them that super bowl last year. Raiders(Reggie/Mark) should have took some notes on that.
This should have been the year that 8-8 turns into at least 10-6 and a deep playoff run.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
seems*
October 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
THE OAKLAND A’s have given Bay Area fans more excitment in 3 days then the RAIDERS have given us in 10 years .. get it together Raiders sheeet
October 4th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
1059,
Yeah. NYG found a way to get it done.
But remember…that 8-8 wasn’t REALLY 8-8…it was”6-10 at best” cuz “we barely hung on” in a few games…so being the great Raider fans they are they say “we shoudl’ve lost”, and you count the close games we won cuz “it could’ve gone either way”.
Spoken like true KC Chief fans.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
John Gruden head coach Raiders:
1998: 8-8
1999: 8-8
2000: 12-4
2001 10-6
Hue Jackson Raiders:
OC 2010 8-8
HC 2011 8-8
2012 ???
2013 ???
Ahhh what could have been. What should have been.
Some fans do not realize we started “building” in 2010.
It has been cut off. Destroyed
October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Its a strange feeling watching the St. Louis Lambs and the Arizona Cardinals Defenses making ours look like something out of the Lingerie League. They got athletes ALL over the field on the defensive side of the ball.
Its gonna take us 3 years to build a defensive line that even remotely looks like either one of these.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I am quite sick of “most Americans”.
Most Americans think they are entitled, they think they deserve something they have not earned. They think the rest of the world should serve them, they think that their government is so righteous that it entitles them to go into foreign countries and kill women and children just so they can feel safe and have access to their resources.
There is a hell that is going to rain down on us and quite frankly, we deserve it.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
What it is…is that (most) of the ones that say this stuff HATE the fact that the team was a defensive stop away from the div. title becuz it was still “Al’s team” essentially; coached by one of “Al’s guys” with a team filled with “Al’s players”.
Funny, when I looked at the review of our schedule last yr. it said 8-8….Gee, i thought it was supposed to be a “mirage” and didn’t really happen in real life.
I’m convinced that alot of guys would rather lose with Reggies guys than win with “Al’s guys”.
It’s true.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Im telling u Raider fans .. if we ever get back on top.. there will nothing like it. THERE will be nothing like PLAYOFF ATMOSPHERE in the O.Co colisieum.
We need a HOG DEFENSE FIRST!!
October 4th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
MikieG Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Its a strange feeling watching the St. Louis Lambs and the Arizona Cardinals Defenses making ours look like something out of the Lingerie League. They got athletes ALL over the field on the defensive side of the ball.
Its gonna take us 3 years to build a defensive line that even remotely looks like either one of these.
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Why should we have to wait three yrs. just to have a decent line when Carolina AN EXPANSION TEAM made the Conf. Champ. game in yr. 3…OF THEIR EXISTENCE?
Maybe Raider fans should demand/expect a little more.
October 4th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I’m convinced that alot of guys would rather lose with Reggies guys than win with “Al’s guys”.
It’s true.
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That’s pretty much it in a nut shell!
Nicely put.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RaidO Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
John Gruden head coach Raiders:
1998: 8-8
1999: 8-8
2000: 12-4
2001 10-6
Hue Jackson Raiders:
OC 2010 8-8
HC 2011 8-8
2012 ???
2013 ???
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Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.
Plus u have to take away the close games…could’ve gone either way.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
MikieG Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Its a strange feeling watching the St. Louis Lambs and the Arizona Cardinals Defenses making ours look like something out of the Lingerie League. They got athletes ALL over the field on the defensive side of the ball.
Its gonna take us 3 years to build a defensive line that even remotely looks like either one of these.
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They have had the high picks and made them count. Big Al had the high picks and pissed them away like a light beer.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
“Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.”
I just spit out my ice tea I laughed so hard at that!
October 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RaidO Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
John Gruden head coach Raiders:
1998: 8-8
1999: 8-8
2000: 12-4
2001 10-6
Hue Jackson Raiders:
OC 2010 8-8
HC 2011 8-8
2012 ???
2013 ???
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Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.
Plus u have to take away the close games…could’ve gone either
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I would put a *asterisk on 2011 for Hue.
*Starting QB and NFL leading rusher injured. That may have been a 10-6 or 11-5 year.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Ahhh what could have been. What should have been.
Some fans do not realize we started “building” in 2010.
It has been cut off. Destroyed
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All to satisfy person ego’s… think of it.
St. Mckenzie didn’t want Hue around because he was a control freak, despite having a top 10 offense and the support of the whole team.
OUT HE GOES.
St. McK hires a green horn HC that doesn’t know lick about offense… but instead of hiring Saunders as his OC, he hires the only dunce in the NFL that he has a relationship with instead. A guy that already failed miserably with the Raiders.
So what happens after this? The only offense that Carson Palmer likes is the no-huddle.. so he can call his own plays at the LOS. Ego-trip Knapp doesn’t allow this until game three… it works to perfection and we beat a very solid Pitts team.
What happens after this? Knapp figures.. screw this, I don’t get to do anything besides stand on the sidelines and suck my thumb… I am calling all the plays vs Denver… we score a whopping 5 points, vs 34 against Pitts.
Does this staff put their own person agenda above WINS?
You be the judge.
This staff is concerned with NOTHING besides self-interest. Same as McDaniels with Denver, and Haley with KC.
Two four win seasons ahead of us folks… and then starting all over again.
The worst franchise in the NFL… sorry… this is not a fix… it’s a step backwards.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
“Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.”
I just spit out my ice tea I laughed so hard at that!
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What’s funnier is someone (can’t remember) who actually said that earlier…Good one huh? Geez.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
THese Raiders are good at talking a good game.. what they are doing.. the film they are watching .. the changes they are making, how close they are to being good , then…………………………..
the games actually start and they lose as always
October 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Why Hue Jackson secondary coach with Bengals?
October 4th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Cardinals still suck.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Why does’nt nfl network jsut show the whole game online? I’m tired of these “live look in ” BS …
October 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
1074,
Nice post GDog.
I’m holding out a little hope that after the humiliation at the hands of his former team and the embarrassment of “laugh gate” where his will to win and aversion to losing came into question (rightly or wrongly) has touched off something in DA…his “competitive nature” if u will.
He is aware that even the national media is questioning whether Hue should’ve been replaced by him in the 1st place. I hope he sees that as an insult. Not that I see it that way, but I hope he does…cuz it’s real…people are wondering this.
So now….he says “screw this….screw Knapp…this is MY team and I’m not gonna let Knapp or anyone else make me look like an unqualified fool”.
He now wants to WIN more than anything…so he makes the needed “adjustments” and we see a team committed to WINNING instead of one blindly devoted to schemes that don’t work with the roster at his disposal.
This is my hope.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Evening all.
First time I’ve felt like posting since Sunday’s debacle.
Anyone here still believe in the WCO and DA’s defensive
capability?
Would we be in the same position with Huejax?
Answer NO!!!
The players we have were not picked for this garbage!
The regime has just presided over the worst arsekicking
this team has had to endure since god knows when.
Propose this deal….regime for DVD.
Huejax upgraded the QB position and showed amazing flair as a play caller.These guys have cut down the penalties and our balls off to boot.
End result is that the product is unwatchable.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Take it or leave it but a family friend of mine was a coach for the raiders with the cable regime and hue did not have a ton of support with the players. Jerry talked about it briefly when they lost our tight end, miller, to Seattle. Hue would say one thing and do another. He was interested in one thing, himself. Look what happened when he got that down grade coaching position in Cincinnati…immediately tried to make a lateral move to New York. Reggie couldn’t hang with hue because hue was not an honest human being with anyone but himself. That came from players, coaches, and reporters. Ask cork at the next chat.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I just don’t see how this team can win any thing with Knapp calling plays I hope Palmer goes no huddle the rest of the season .
October 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Why Hue Jackson secondary coach with Bengals?
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He’s too “uppity” outspoken and power hungry. It scares most teams off; otherwise how does one explain how a Raider team with this “terrible” roster, his best player injured and his starting QB out for the yr. and still goes 8-8…in his first yr. as a HC?
October 4th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
I cannot believe how old and slow our defense looks compared to what I just watched by these to disgusting teams tonight…Wheeler, Burris, and Branch are the only ones that should still be on the team in 3 years..we need 8 more guys that can explode off the ball, beat the guy or guys in front of them, and get to the quarterback.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Why Hue Jackson secondary coach with Bengals?
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He’s too “uppity” outspoken and power hungry.
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Wonder if he got to Cincy and said “Where all the white Bengals at??”
October 4th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Raider guy Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Take it or leave it but a family friend of mine was a coach for the raiders with the cable regime and hue did not have a ton of support with the players. Jerry talked about it briefly when they lost our tight end, miller, to Seattle. Hue would say one thing and do another. He was interested in one thing, himself. Look what happened when he got that down grade coaching position in Cincinnati…immediately tried to make a lateral move to New York. Reggie couldn’t hang with hue because hue was not an honest human being with anyone but himself. That came from players, coaches, and reporters. Ask cork at the next chat.
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Don’t doubt it for a minute.
The point isn’t that Huejax was or is a scumbag.It is
that at least he knew the team mentality.
These people are into turning water into stone.
Huejax may not have won this game but he would never have been blown out.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Rebuilding sucks but it had to be done. I think, only my opinion, but the reason we suck has less to do with coaching and more to do with talent. Can’t stop the pass because we got corners off the street. Can’t get ahead cause we can’t stop the pass. Can’t spend time running because we get too far behind. Wimbley, asomugha, routt, were not worth what thy were paid to the entirety of the team. Kelly and Seymour are old. McClain is mcClain. Stating a rookie at weakside linebacker because our vet has been out for the year. And we were having try outs for Cbs every week this season. Receivers haven’t all been healthy this year. Starting tackle goes out. And we loose to San Diego be cause four turnovers due to a back up long snapper. Give me a break with your judgements about how bad or good this regime is. We won’t know for a couple years at least. This is what had to happen. This is what does happen when you build a team.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
1082,
I don’t dispute what you’re saying, but why have we not heard any of that from any of the players that played for him?
You always hear this stuff but it’s always someone “anonymous” that these things get attributed to.
Like I said, I don’t deny it’s true, i’m just sayin…
October 4th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
1086, Yes Blazing Saddles…lol. I didn’t mean it THAT way.
October 4th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
The alternative is that hue continues on…we keep putting bandaids on gashes, and we turn into a team like the Seahawks or titans or bengals…mid level teams that may make some noise now and again but never threaten to become a force…you know?
October 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Got a new cop on Dumerville.He could have retired CP
legally on a play and chose not to.He landed on him like
Siragusa did on Gannon but protected him by landing as if he was doing a pushup.
Total class!!!He made the whooping much easier to swallow
October 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I would feel the same exact way about anonymous sources if I was reading this. That’s why you can take it or leave it and wouldn’t blame you if you decided to leave it.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
1088,
Raider Guy, the issue that will never go away (unless they go on a winning streak) is that alot of people feel this didn’t need to be torn down and “built”.
Easier to talk about “building” when u just came off a 4-12 season…not one where u were a defensive stop away from the division…with a young team to boot.
The debate will continue becuz of this.
Right or wrong.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Raider guy Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I would feel the same exact way about anonymous sources if I was reading this. That’s why you can take it or leave it and wouldn’t blame you if you decided to leave it.
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I’m not saying I don’t believe you. I’ve heard it from other “sources” as well..just not any players. I’d be interested to hear their take.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Guy…rebuilding this team is gonna take more years than you and I have left combined.
You are right no doubt but asking a fanbase to go there
with no guarantee of success is gonna fly like a lead fart.
Bandaids on bullet wounds is not a fix but I fear for the organization’s ability to persevere.
We live in the now as in what have you done for ME now
generation.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Plus DA looking like a young Ratface doesn’t help.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Dj and twinkle, I totally appreciate the thoughtful talk. Dude. Refreshing from what I am used to in here. Thanks.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Pus…the l.a. Thing makes me want to get it done quick because we need asses in seats. Mark went to Chico though, so I think he is a nor cal boy through and through
October 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Can’t stop the pass because we got corners off the street. Can’t get ahead cause we can’t stop the pass. Can’t spend time running because we get too far behind. Wimbley, asomugha, routt, were not worth what thy were paid to the entirety of the team. Kelly and Seymour are old. McClain is mcClain. Stating a rookie at weakside linebacker because our vet has been out for the year. And we were having try outs for Cbs every week this season. Receivers haven’t all been healthy this year. Starting tackle goes out. And we loose to San Diego be cause four turnovers due to a back up long snapper.
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Agreed
October 4th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
has anyone seen beechy dawg?
October 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
rebuilding this team is gonna take more years than you and I have left combined.
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I don’t know …
Think of the dollars saved when Seymour’s contract is up.
Briesel won’t see the 2nd year of his contract.
Between our 1st rd pick and at least 2 solid FAs, I see CB, pass rush, and OL being addressed from a talent perspective.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
One would hope so mate….This team swings on what Mark
feels like doing….we are like a rudderless ship at the
moment.That was to be expected!
Problem being is without bums in seats it’s over.
Don’t believe Mark has the interest in the team to care.
I really hope I’m wrong!
October 4th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Raider Ray, I think another “issue” is the rebuilding thing might be easier to take if we were convinced that the guys in control of this are the right ones to get us to that upper level you speak of.
DA said the goal was “to get better each day”. We saw a team that was “talented” enough to beat a tuff Pitt. team (injuries not withstanding) and then the next week suffer the biggest loss to Denver in 50 yrs.
I stuck up for all of Hue’s vicories so I won’t discount DA’s against Pitt.
DA has a small sample size so we can only judge from what we’ve seen so far. A team devoid of talent doesn’t beat Pitt. on any Sunday. There’s some talent there.
They regressed badly from that game.
It’s not a good early sign for us to be hopeful this “rebuilding” is going to lead to greatness…
Give us some time? says Reggie and DA?
Throw us a bone to believe you will.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
And we loose to San Diego be cause four turnovers due to a back up long snapper
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I wouldn’t blame that on Goethel, I’d blame it on coaching.
1) should have had a back up who actually practiced doing it once or twice.
2) should have had him practicing on the side line after Condo went out.
3) should have realized that it wasn’t working and come up with another plan, like a pooch kick or god forbid go for it on 4th and 1.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Hate that the three stooges have turned the raiders irrelevant….f-u dumbaszs…
October 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Ray this sh!t has rocked us all.We have all followed a losing team since LA.Yet we were all still here.
That is not going to continue.Many of us were here for Al
Others were here because of Oaktown….others because of god knows what.There is no way this team does any worse than 8-8 under Huejax.I hated the whiners when they were good…the last thing I want to see is the WCO when we finally got us a gunslinger.We have a vertical team
going to to the WCO.
Dead wrong!!!!!
October 4th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
And we loose to San Diego be cause four turnovers due to a back up long snapper
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That is called a professional embarrassment.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
1086, Yes Blazing Saddles…lol. I didn’t mean it THAT way.
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Ha! I know, but you tee’d it up for me!
October 4th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Anything got from GB or Denver would have been flushed.
These guys look like they are clueless.
Our pressure came from the tackles….they were in lanes
stopping the RB.
Who’s the danger RB or QB?
One lick on Manning and it’s all she wrote.One lick on RB
……..they have another.
October 4th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
its only gonna get worse the rest of the season
October 4th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Why couldn’t we got Fischer? He said they were ‘remodeling’. St Loius ifs for real. Anyone hear the players talk about Fischer? They guy knows the game. I just hope they stuff the niners outta the picture. We’re royally screwed with our coaches. Its clear.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Raider Guy Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Take it or leave it but a family friend of mine was a coach for the raiders with the cable regime and hue did not have a ton of support with the players. Jerry talked about it briefly when they lost our tight end, miller, to Seattle. Hue would say one thing and do another. He was interested in one thing, himself. Look what happened when he got that down grade coaching position in Cincinnati…immediately tried to make a lateral move to New York. Reggie couldn’t hang with hue because hue was not an honest human being with anyone but himself. That came from players, coaches, and reporters. Ask cork at the next chat.
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Hmm…interesting. Though not surprising.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Again Reggie didnt fire hue. It was mark davis.. especially after hue last presser. Mark talked to some of the players and some didnt like the way he talked about them in the last presser.
anyhow. Did anyone see the Rams DLINE 2nite?? ya that looked like ours 2yrs ago and somewhat last year. MIKE WAUFFLE>
Allen canned his azz.. they also have our special teams coach. FISHER took two of our coaches after they were canned lol. Mr. Davis chose them for a reason THIS team is a mess
October 4th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
anyhow. Did anyone see the Rams DLINE 2nite?? ya that looked like ours 2yrs ago and somewhat last year. MIKE WAUFFLE>
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We had some good line coaches. Both lines went from good/solid to terrible/terrible. What a joke.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
DA looks to be in over his head so far. 4 games doesn’t make a HC, but it’s been ugly to this point. We’ll know even more based on how they come out of the bye.
And lol at Fox telling DA he’s doing a great job after that thrashing.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
DA looks to be in over his head so far. 4 games doesn’t make a HC, but it’s been ugly to this point. We’ll know even more based on how they come out of the bye.
And lol at Fox telling DA he’s doing a great job after that thrashing.
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Jeff Fischer didn’t look to be in over his head. But I’ll tell ya who does, is knapp. Saw the same look on chucky B and his tamed D last year. And its to bad to listen to the players tote the company line.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
And lol at Fox telling DA he’s doing a great job after that thrashing.
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Kinda like pissin on his wounds.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
As of now, the process is somewhere in the middle, Allen said.
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I woulda rather heard they just began to scratch the surface. Sounds like slam dunk interrogation speed.
“yeah, we’ve found that the players really haven’t responded yet to what we’re trying to do. Its gonna take time. I have total faith in our system. We are making great strides. We just have to continue to get better each week. We just have to make the plays. We are winning the penalty battle. Yes sir we are. Case closed. Now go have a great week off. Have some fun.”
October 4th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Quarterback Carson Palmer said the players were instructed to get some rest physically but to keep working mentally. In short, that means studying the video tape given them by their coaches.
“That’s something coach really emphasized,” Palmer said. “You can go one of two ways. You can say, ‘Screw it, I’m going to Vegas and party for four days,’ and that’s not what this team is about. Most of these guys are sticking around, are going to come in and work out.”
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OK, so Palmer and most of the guys are gonna stick around and continue to work anyway. Good for them. How can you continue to work mentally while your away from the practice facility? Palmer knows this. Thats why they have opted to stay.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
– Seymour was excused from practice today for personal reasons, Allen said.
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So any other news?
October 4th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
OK, so Palmer and most of the guys are gonna stick around and continue to work anyway. Good for them. How can you continue to work mentally while your away from the practice facility? Palmer knows this. Thats why they have opted to stay.
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Precisely. The guys that have left aren’t going to be doing much studying, even if they left with good intentions of doing so. We all know how things go, hangin with homies/family, having fun, last thing on your mind is ‘let me get out that tape and study’
October 4th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
TSR, you give me some time off to get away and the last thing I’m gonna do is think about work. Not even remotely. Only dreadin havin to go back to the grind. But keep me there, and I get into it.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Allen has the Kiffin look. A tad gaunt, blank stare.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Big Rich got his paws on another FG.Sailed just inside the stick.He doesn’t want go out this way.Too much class,the dude plays ST’s as well as anyone.Wanna see how it’s done?watch him.
The taming of the shrew!!!
That’s what is going down!
October 4th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Such high hopes before pre-season began. Such excitement. Now, just tryin to get out of the toilet. Somebody, please flush it.
October 4th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Deer in the headlights?
October 4th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says: Wasn’t referring to you.========Re: how trolls roll. Sorry for the misinterpretation. Got it now.=====================Just saw you here.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
PUBE STYLING UPDATE
Brohams, Dweebs and KrappRat
Phase 1 of my ultimate new pube ‘do has been completed. It took Hakanakakirasowa nearly 15 mins to scrub all the female jizz build-up out of my patch
That beats my previous record of 13.5 mins, holla
Now its on to the actual styling portion, where we’ll see if the legend is still the master
Could be the perfect time for a little Janet Jackson on the turntable
WRECKS N EFFECT, SHOUT OUT TO NYC
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
YOU GO GIRL
Damn Dawg, you need to get a hot wax glo-down to relax. So silky smooth you won’t be able to get off the couch, if you know what I mean Dawg. Your posse will lick you clean. Sure the Dawgettes will get a little jealous, but they’ll deal wit it. Dawg will just say ‘woof woof’.
SUPER DAWG IS SUPER FLY, IN DA HOUSE
October 4th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Really?
October 4th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says: Wasn’t referring to you.========Re: how trolls roll. Sorry for the misinterpretation. Got it now.=====================Just saw you here.
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No problem, Purvisman. I figured it was just a misunderstanding. Appreciate the apology.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
TailGater Raider Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Such high hopes before pre-season began. Such excitement. Now, just tryin to get out of the toilet. Somebody, please flush it.
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lol.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
enuff for me
October 4th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Go Raiders!
October 4th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Yo Dawg, Brahs and Goobers
Sure is quiet in here. Not a lot goin on. Just like them Raiders. But all you Dawgs hang loose. Things gonna start happening. Specially when Super Dawg shows his Super Lawg. Big Dawgs will have a ‘Lawg Off’ to get things hoppin. This blawg will be know some excitement to get thru the bye bye week.
JUST KEEPIN IT FO REAL BIG DAWG
October 4th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
There is nothing wrong by saying I was wrong and you right. Nobody is perfect.
October 4th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
If The Raiders stay within 7 points of the Falcons you will not here any negative lip from me regarding Reggie or DA for a week.
October 5th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Allen: “We’re sorry for the confusion. We thought the bye week was last week. When we woke up on Sunday and found out we had a game to play, well we simply were not prepared. Egg, meet face.”
October 5th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Is anyone that don’t like what’s goin on lately willing to hold their tougue of criticism of Regggie , DA Or Knapp if the Raiders are within 10 points. Any takers?
October 5th, 2012 at 4:05 am
Allen: “We’re sorry for the confusion. We thought the bye week was last week. When we woke up on Sunday and found out we had a game to play, well we simply were not prepared. Egg, meet face.”
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LOL!!
October 5th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Attn: AM Crew
Well gents, I didn’t get the Supervisor job. The Prez gave it to the director of operations, then will hire an assistant to take over a few of his old tasks so that he isn’t overwhelmed doing 2 jobs
sucks, because i’m very qualified for the job and now i’m basically training my new boss. ugh!
I got a raise though and a brand new computer as consolation prizes
October 5th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Part 2:
I’ve only been with the company 4 years and the other guy has been for 12 years. Plus he’s so far up the Prez’s butt it’s not funny. I’m not a brown-noser like him. I just do my job and go home
Should be interesting now, having a d-bag as my direct Supervisor who got the job I wanted. Pray 4 Me
October 5th, 2012 at 5:02 am
Easier to talk about “building” when u just came off a 4-12 season…not one where u were a defensive stop away from the division…with a young team to boot.
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Problem is team couldn’t make defensive stop if lives depended on it. Defense should have been blown up more than it was. Got to get rid of Seymour and Kelly.
October 5th, 2012 at 5:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Attn: AM Crew
Well gents, I didn’t get the Supervisor job. The Prez gave it to the director of operations, then will hire an assistant to take over a few of his old tasks so that he isn’t overwhelmed doing 2 jobs
sucks, because i’m very qualified for the job and now i’m basically training my new boss. ugh!
I got a raise though and a brand new computer as consolation prizes
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Cool, now you can spend more time on Raiders blog!
October 5th, 2012 at 5:07 am
DHB made it into the Onion!
“Darrius Heyward-Bey Wakes From Wonderful Dream In Which He Wasn’t On Raiders”
October 5th, 2012 at 5:39 am
Huejax may not have won this game but he would never have been blown out.
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Yeah… Hue didn’t get blown out at all by anyone in his tenure…
October 5th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Easier to talk about “building” when u just came off a 4-12 season…not one where u were a defensive stop away from the division…with a young team to boot.
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A defensive stop this team was incapable of making. If Hue didn’t go 1-4 down the stretch when it mattered we might not be having this conversation, but the fact is this team OVER achieved to get to 8-8 last year. Barely beating the Vikings without Peterson, Barely beating the Broncos in week 1 last year (truth be told we DIDNT beat the broncos in week 1, they gave us the game) barely beating Chicago without cutler, the miracle in houston. Hue’s team was no better in the second half of games than this current team. Tells you more about the character of the player than the coaching staff or gm.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Great jobs number for the Prez, no way to spin it
October 5th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Truth is, so far the 2012 Raiders have gotten worse on Offense, Defense and Special Teams.
We were supposed to improve, not regress.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Hey, our Run D has improved, lol.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Should be interesting now, having a d-bag as my direct Supervisor who got the job I wanted. Pray 4 Me
Other doors will open but having a “new” dirtbag as a boss might really test you.
I pray he gets divine discomfort where needed and you get some protection from the spiritual war that surrounds us and is intensifying
October 5th, 2012 at 6:36 am
JFB.
Hey buddy…let’s just get to 4-4 and make a 2nd half push, it can be done.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Speaking of spiritual war
DAILY REMINDER
Cable is a better coach then Hue. Hue would not have done squat if Tom had not fixed the Oline and the running game using cast offs Hue would have failed miserably just like the other coaches brought in the past decade.
Cable fixed things and righted the ship and the ship has been sinking since he left.
He has now fixed the seahawk oline and running game using cast offs like McQuistan
That is all
October 5th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Never thought I would admire and envy the freakin rams and cards for their defenses…..Geezo!
October 5th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Cable fixed things and righted the ship and the ship has been sinking since he left.
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Interesting take.
Some would argue it was Wylie who fixed the Oline.
Personally, I think either you can block, or you can’t.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Speaking of spiritual war
DAILY REMINDER
Cable is a better coach then Hue. Hue would not have done squat if Tom had not fixed the Oline and the running game using cast offs Hue would have failed miserably just like the other coaches brought in the past decade.
Cable fixed things and righted the ship and the ship has been sinking since he left.
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It’s only October, were you thinking it was April Fool’s Day?
I aint buying it…but hey, whatever tickles your pickle!
Good Morning Raider Nation!
October 5th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Plunketthead.
Didn’t Cable’s Offense average 12 ppg prior to Hue’s arrival?.
One Hue became OC we averaged 25.6 ppg.
Cable would not have finished the 2010 season if not foe Hue fixing the Offense.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Our DEs are not faster than the guys we are playing. Neither are our DTs. Neither is our MLB.
Sounds like an immediate 5 players need to be replaced if you want to see a defense like that.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Just came in to check on the state of all things Raiders. Pretty depressing scene here.
1-3 guys is not the end of the season. We got 12 more tries at getting this right. Stop thinking about the playoffs or divisional rivalries. Stop putting the pressure on expectations. Each game is a gift to improve and set the table for next year.
All I hope for now is the players to not give up like the Tampa Bay Bucs did for the last 10 games last year. That was embarrassing to watch and embarrassing for the community. Dennis Allen needs to straighten up the backbone and focus on the next game. Improving incrementally, regardless of results. Either you are moving forward or you are getting pushed backwards.
October 5th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Bob Hue helped a lot but my point is Cable fixed the oline, thats what he was brought in to do, that fixed the running game which “fixed” the passing game.
Cable had success before he came to Oakland fixing Olines and he has now done wonders in Seattle.
If Hue was brought in when Cable was (after Lane was fired) Hue would have failed miserably. If there was no running game when Hue arrived Hue would have failed.
Thats all I am saying. I would rather have Tom for a coach anyday and I bet he gets another chance with a team someday
October 5th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Jhill
I believe Cable worked with the oline longer then Wylie. Tom moved Gallery to Guard and that alone made a huge diff, even with Mario replacing him.
Cable worked with crap for oline man the entire time
October 5th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Guest123 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Stop putting the pressure on expectations. Each game is a gift to improve and set the table for next year.
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Sounds like something that would come out of the coaching staff or Reggie!
IMO…we should have never fked with the offense, you ever here of the saying “if it aint broke don’t fix it”? Kinda funny how we’re dead last (rushing) in offense!!
October 5th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Hue’s offense is highly overrated on this site. He couldn’t win games by scoring in the fourth. He mainly hit on home runs and didn’t have enough sustained drives. Cable’s run game was awesome but he was always handcuffed by the lack of a qb and a bad defense.
John Henderson was the biggest loss for this team in the offseason, by far. Their DT’s should be playing ends in a 3-4, and they have two 3-techniques playing defensive end. I think this team could get instantly better with a big NT in the draft and some depth at lb, moving Curry to play inside with slolando.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:07 am
1161.Plunketthead Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Jhill
I believe Cable worked with the oline longer then Wylie. Tom moved Gallery to Guard and that alone made a huge diff, even with Mario replacing him.
Cable worked with crap for oline man the entire time
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Cables oline couldnt pass protect against a 3 man rush. Wylies oline gave up the third fewest sacks in the nfl
October 5th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Mornin’ Nation.
6-10 is still possible…beat the Jags, Browns, Bengals, split with KC, revenge on the Donks at home if Bartell and Spencer are back.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:11 am
@ Ray
Thing is I’m just as disappointed as you are. I totally agree that they took a functional offense and ruined it while promising to revamp a putrid defense and even somehow managed to make that worse. The coaching staff deserves to have a fire lit under them and some of the players need to be put on notice for their jobs.
That said, if there is no leadership and short memory going into the gameplanning for Atlanta, not only will we lose (likely in any case), but we will be destroyed and be the laughing stock of the football nation. I don’t expect victory anymore. But I do expect hard nosed play and guys running thru the whistle. If it goes bad, I don’t want to see fingerpointing, sulking, personal fouls, taunting, or other examples of a team that has no leadership.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Would honestly not be surprised if Atlanta lays the beatdown of the season on us. I’m talking a 54-7 style shellacking.
No pass rush, no corners = Matty Ice, White & Jones rule the roost.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:16 am
SilverandBlackPA.
Damnit man, 6-10?.
I’m still holding out hope for 9 wins, get to 4-4 and win 5 of the last 8, with some pretty good luck finish 6-2 and get to 10 wins.
Yes, I said it.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Marshall Lynch is #1 in yards this season
http://seattletimes.com/html/stevekelley/2019215894_kelley21.html
Last year, when the offensive linemen started falling, Breno Giacomini, Paul McQuistan and Jeanpierre filled in and the Seahawks might have gotten better.
Omiyale, Giacomini, McQuistan and Jeanpierre. In a league that loves its superstars, these are the team’s silent MVPs. They are the products of offensive-line coach Tom Cable’s system.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Guest123 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:11 am
@ Ray
Thing is I’m just as disappointed as you are. I totally agree that they took a functional offense and ruined it while promising to revamp a putrid defense and even somehow managed to make that worse. The coaching staff deserves to have a fire lit under them and some of the players need to be put on notice for their jobs.
That said, if there is no leadership and short memory going into the gameplanning for Atlanta, not only will we lose (likely in any case), but we will be destroyed and be the laughing stock of the football nation. I don’t expect victory anymore. But I do expect hard nosed play and guys running thru the whistle. If it goes bad, I don’t want to see fingerpointing, sulking, personal fouls, taunting, or other examples of a team that has no leadership.
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Don’t forget, we’re playing at the Georgia Dome!
I bet Ryan could pass for +300 yards without Julio and Roddy White on the field!
With that being said, I wonder what the Money Line will be?
Raiders +450 ?
October 5th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I would be surprised if its a beatdown. I honestly think we will bounce back for Atlanta. I don’t see how our defense can stop them though. It should be a comfortable 2 score win, but I think we can score on them with a healthy DHB back and the bye week to rest. I’m not even dreaming of an upset, but I’d take the points and the Raiders.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:20 am
And no, I would not bet on 9 wins let alone 10, but it can be done.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Cable as HC/cheerleader and Hue as the OC was a great mix.
That team fought hard until the very end of each game and the season.
Last year’s team quit at times, and no-showed at others.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:22 am
We are running the same system Cable is, Plunkett.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:24 am
On a positive note for our current O-line, we are tied for #6 in sacks allowed, and 2nd in the NFL in pass attempts per sack.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:25 am
1-3 guys is not the end of the season. We got 12 more tries at getting this right. Stop thinking about the playoffs or divisional rivalries. Stop putting the pressure on expectations. Each game is a gift to improve and set the table for next year.
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We are pretty much 1-4.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Going forward, the only yardstick to properly evaluate Dennis Allen and staff is to see if the team loses its cool. If the stupid personal fouls crop up at the end of blowout losses. If the heads are hanging and guys lining up with hands on their hips reluctanly getting into their stance. Guys jogging after the ballcarrier in the second level. Dumb penalties on the rise.
What will it take for this team to quit? 1-6 start? 1-8 start? What’s the breaking point? Do these guys give up and mail in their dignity? Or will they play hard for the next contract knowing that the eye in the sky don’t lie?
If they end up quitting like teams in the recent past, then DA himself was a bad hire.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:28 am
On the other hand, here’s the depressing stat of the week…
The 2012 Raiders – 14.5 point differential on average so far is worst than anything we’ve seen during the last 10 years, the Kiffin-Cable 2009 team finished at – 11.2 and even the infamous 2006 team finished with – 10.2.
And yet I hold hope for a turnaround, go Raiders!.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Have a nice friday folks.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:30 am
10 4 jhill
But Cable seems to be very good at coaching it.
My main point is Tom took over a terrible team mid season and the team got much better under his firm pimp hand and started going south after he left.
I am not saying it was Hues fault. Hue did a great job untill Al passed however Hue could never have done what Tom did
October 5th, 2012 at 7:31 am
We are heading into the easiest part of our schedule.
Time to get fat on the bottom-feeders.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:34 am
If Seattle’s O-line continues to excel, look for him to prossibly interview for the Browns job that should be open the end of this year.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I’m guessing that this morning Kevin Kolb must feel like me after a long night of Canadien Club.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Here’s why this ‘evaluation’ talk is mere lip-service. From this interview it’s obvious it’s full steam ahead with the ZBS, persisting with it till the players are proficient at it straight from the mouth of Wisniewski…
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http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Wisniewski-breaks-down-the-ZBS?blockID=784039&feedID=2801
ALAMEDA — As a predominantly power-blocking team last season, the Raiders were the No. 7-ranked rushing team in the NFL, averaging 131.9 yards per game on the ground.
Through four games of the 2012 season utilizing the zone-blocking scheme, the Raiders are 32nd in the 32-team NFL — last — in averaging 60.8 rushing yards per game.
Still think the switch should have been seamless, and that the ZBS is similar to what the Raiders ran last year?
“It’s very different in the run game,” center Stefen Wisniewski told CSNCalifornia.com following the Raiders’ final pre-bye week practice on Wednesday. “Yeah, it really is.”
How, exactly?
Wisniewski’s eyes rolled and he smiled.
“Well, I mean, I’d get technical on you,” he said with a laugh. “Yeah, it’s, I mean, the footwork, the aiming points, just everything is. The whole goal’s different — you’re trying to get people to run sideways and make a cut, instead of trying to move people, drive them off the ball. So, the whole broad scheme is different and then all the little details are different, with all the footwork and everything and the combinations.
“But we’re getting more comfortable at them and the more reps we get, we’re just going to keep getting better and the more reps the (running) backs get, they’re going to keep getting better because it’s different for them, too. The reads are all very different.”
Keep in mind, the Raiders’ offensive line is still rounding into form, what with Wisniewski making the transition from left guard to center after missing all on-field work this offseason recovering from shoulder surgery before a calf injury sidelined him in the exhibition season. And Willie Smith is replacing the injured Khalif Barnes at right tackle.
Plus, it’s not like Oakland can practice the cut-blocking in practice against teammates.
“It’s definitely close and we really feel we’re continuing to get better at it,” Wisniewski said. “You know, it’s not an easy thing to pick up right away. It takes time, it takes practice and it takes game practice, too. It’s a different look than practice (when) you can’t really cut guys. It’s a whole different deal.
“It’s a things that’s going to take time and we’re definitely moving in the right direction and we’re definitely close to where we want to be.”
And therein lies the frustration.
“It’s tough,” Wisniewski said, “and we certainly want to be seeing results right now but coaches have been good and encouraging, encouraging us to be patient, keep working, keep getting better and just trust that it’s going to work and we believe it is going to work.”
October 5th, 2012 at 7:39 am
1168.Bob Marley Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:16 am
SilverandBlackPA.
Damnit man, 6-10?.
I’m still holding out hope for 9 wins, get to 4-4 and win 5 of the last 8, with some pretty good luck finish 6-2 and get to 10 wins.
Yes, I said it.
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Believe me, Bob, I hope you’re right!
October 5th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I dont think eeking out 6 wins will help us.. we really need the top pick.. we need a full rebuild. Not a reload.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:39 am
1182.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:34 am
If Seattle’s O-line continues to excel, look for him to prossibly interview for the Browns job that should be open the end of this year.
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I could buy that. Also look for Ray Horton to get a HC gig next year.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:42 am
1171.guest123 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I would be surprised if its a beatdown. I honestly think we will bounce back for Atlanta. I don’t see how our defense can stop them though. It should be a comfortable 2 score win, but I think we can score on them with a healthy DHB back and the bye week to rest. I’m not even dreaming of an upset, but I’d take the points and the Raiders
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Very curious to see what the spread will be.
My main hope is that Atlanta demolishes Washington & walks into the Raider game waaaayyy overconfident already looking past us.
Speaking more realisticially, I think a 34-17 Atlanta victory is very likely.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I bet the Falcons are -13.5, Raiders ML will be in the +650 range.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Tony gonzalez is gonna catch 20 balls against us..
October 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
This team needs to stay as competitive as possible, so The Reggie can accurately evaluate the roster.
Tough to evaluate anything when you are getting pasted by 20+ and guys have mailed it in.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I bet the Falcons are -13.5, Raiders ML will be in the +650 range.
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Forgive my lack of knowledge on the topic but how does the money line work exactly?
October 5th, 2012 at 7:49 am
1191.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
This team needs to stay as competitive as possible, so The Reggie can accurately evaluate the roster.
Tough to evaluate anything when you are getting pasted by 20+ and guys have mailed it in.
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I dunno, that’d make Reggie’s job easier.
Anyone mailing it in should be automatically shipped out.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:50 am
5-11 at best with victories against Jags Browns Chiefs and probably Tampa but 3-13 sounds more realistic.
Next year will be gone Kelly Seymour Mclain Huff and probably Shaughnessy if some team overpays him. Just can’t rebuild with too many holes and a tight salary cap. I expect the rebuilding in 2014 and 15 with some playoff hopes in 2016.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
I have always hated it and always called it the dam cut blocking scheme because the Mules used it for years tearing us up.
I even preached in here how much I disliked it and was piss because the raiders were switching to it under Kiff.
But it is what it is. Raider brass has declared we are gonna use it and the oline men that do not get good at it will be gone next year.
I accept it untill it changes
October 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I bet the Falcons are -13.5, Raiders ML will be in the +650 range.
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That’s what I was thinking. See, I’d put money on that line. People are going overboard, but I think the line will start there and climb to -14.5. That’s the sweet spot to me as I think we stay within 2 scores.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:52 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:49 am
1191.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
This team needs to stay as competitive as possible, so The Reggie can accurately evaluate the roster.
Tough to evaluate anything when you are getting pasted by 20+ and guys have mailed it in.
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I dunno, that’d make Reggie’s job easier.
Anyone mailing it in should be automatically shipped out.
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Right now Phillip Wheeler and DHB are two of my favorite players because of there consistent effort.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Cable would be a great fit for the Browns
October 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
1196.guest123 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I bet the Falcons are -13.5, Raiders ML will be in the +650 range.
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That’s what I was thinking. See, I’d put money on that line. People are going overboard, but I think the line will start there and climb to -14.5. That’s the sweet spot to me as I think we stay within 2 scores.
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This is going to sound irrational and panicky, but please imagine this being said in a calm voice that is truly just curious: after what Denver did, how do you think the Raiders will keep it closer when playing a superior Atlanta squad in the eastern time zone?
October 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Further on #1184…
It’s pretty obvious when you think about it. After spending all the months of OTAs, Camp, and Pre-season preaching ZBS, and TELLING the players its a system that IS going to work, and to TRUST the process, to be patient, the coaches aren’t going to suddenly about-face on the players, admitting that it does NOT work, and trying to get all the players to go back to learning the PBS, to throw months of practice away by changing.
Plus, it would mean having to fire not just Knapp but also Pollack.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
ron69 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:50 am
5-11 at best with victories against Jags Browns Chiefs and probably Tampa but 3-13 sounds more realistic.
Next year will be gone Kelly Seymour Mclain Huff and probably Shaughnessy if some team overpays him. Just can’t rebuild with too many holes and a tight salary cap. I expect the rebuilding in 2014 and 15 with some playoff hopes in 2016.
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ouch
October 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Whats left for reggie to evaluate? Tp & criner? Its a vet team.. we already know who needs to go .
October 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Tough to evaluate anything when you are getting pasted by 20+ and guys have mailed it in.
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Makes evaluation real easy. If the guy mails it in, he aint the kinda guy you want on the roster.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Forgive my lack of knowledge on the topic but how does the money line work exactly?
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+650 means bet $100 to win $650.
Falcons will be probably around the -800 range, meaning you have to bet $800 to win $100.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2012/10/04/zone-blocking-the-anti-mcfadden/
Here is a damn good read into why the whole zone blocking system is so wrong for DMC. I agree.
October 5th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Forgive my lack of knowledge on the topic but how does the money line work exactly?
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+650 means bet $100 to win $650.
Falcons will be probably around the -800 range, meaning you have to bet $800 to win $100.
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Thanks, I learned something new
October 5th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Where has rockstar been?
October 5th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Its time to play the rookies.. seasons OVER.. give tp some snaps..
October 5th, 2012 at 7:58 am
This is the type of game we surprise people in. The game no one gives us any chance of winning, against a superior team. That said, our track record in the east plus our recent track record after a bye… I would feel comfortable taking the Falcons -15.
Love my team, but I have tempered expectations.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
The zbs is FINE for McFadden, so long as our guys execute the blocks. Ask Pittsburg.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:01 am
#1205…
Thanks for posting that article Guest123 :thumbsup:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Nah, even the best players in this league sag their shoulders and aren’t giving playoff-level effort once they are eliminated from the playoffs.
You watch some meaningless game in December, you got 90% of the guys giving somewhere between 70-90% effort.
We just need to limit those games to December, and not have them in October.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:03 am
bcz24 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
The zbs is FINE for McFadden, so long as our guys execute the blocks. Ask Pittsburg.
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One 64 yard play where Cooper Carlisle correctly peeled off the NT and took on the Steeler LB and that is really the only good play. Take away that and DMC is averaging about 2.4 ypc. Go ask Pittsburgh. They shut him down for the most part. Go look at the screenshots in the link I posted. Blocking scheme is all wrong for McFadden and there are many failures.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:05 am
We didnt run very well at pitsburg.. just one well blocked play when a lb made a mistake.. knapp & his bs dont belong here
October 5th, 2012 at 8:05 am
1213.guest123 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:03 am
bcz24 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
The zbs is FINE for McFadden, so long as our guys execute the blocks. Ask Pittsburg.
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One 64 yard play where Cooper Carlisle correctly peeled off the NT and took on the Steeler LB and that is really the only good play. Take away that and DMC is averaging about 2.4 ypc. Go ask Pittsburgh. They shut him down for the most part. Go look at the screenshots in the link I posted. Blocking scheme is all wrong for McFadden and there are many failures.
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The article concludes by noting that with enough work and practice on both the line’s and McFadden’s part, though, it will work.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:06 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:49 am
1191.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
This team needs to stay as competitive as possible, so The Reggie can accurately evaluate the roster.
Tough to evaluate anything when you are getting pasted by 20+ and guys have mailed it in.
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I dunno, that’d make Reggie’s job easier.
Anyone mailing it in should be automatically shipped out.
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And ship a couple of these guys in….
Some significant free agents in 2013. Keep in mind, the franchise tag may be used on some of these players.
QB – Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Jason Campbell
RB – Michael Turner, Cedric Benson, Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis
WR – Dwayne Bowe, Greg Jennings, Wes Welker, Victor Cruz, Joshua Cribbs, Ted Ginn Jr.
TE – Jason Witten, Dallas Clark, Martellus Bennett
OL – Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Sebastian Vollmer, Jermon Bushrod, Todd McClure
DL – Cliff Avril, Osi Umenyiora, Chris Clemons, Dwight Freeney, Alan Branch
LB – Anthony Spencer, Manny Lawson, Brian Urlacher, Erin Henderson, James Laurinaitis
CB – Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, Jason McCourty, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Sam Shields
S – Dashon Goldson, Ed Reed, Jairus Byrd, LaRon Landry
maybe a draft class
Manti Teo, LB, Notre Dame
Magus Hunt, OLB/DE, SMU
Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia or Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia
Xavier Nixon, OT, Florida
October 5th, 2012 at 8:07 am
As long as we have a difference maker at punter, we will win the games.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:09 am
1 (11)Manti T’eo, ILB, Notre Dame – acquired moving down to add 2nd round pick lost from Palmer deal
2 (43) Kwwame Geathers, NT, Georgia (presumably from Jets who trade up for Robert Woods
3 (70) Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
4 (102) Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, U.Conn
5 (132)Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St.
5 (137) Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU, None (previously LSU)* if he comes out, if not Marc Anthony, CB, Cal
7 (196) (from Carolina) Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner
7 (221) Xavier Nixon, OT, Florida
October 5th, 2012 at 8:10 am
damn, forgot no fourth round pick (awarded to Seattle in) Aaron Curry trade
October 5th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Guys with names like Teo or Rambo never pan out. Scratch them off the list.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:11 am
The Cowboys in the early 90’s had their trio of Aikman, Irvin, and Emmitt. We have the super trio of Jano, Shane, and Condo. With those 3 will win.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am
QB – Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Jason Campbell
RB – Michael Turner, Cedric Benson, Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis
WR – Dwayne Bowe, Greg Jennings, Wes Welker, Victor Cruz, Joshua Cribbs, Ted Ginn Jr.
TE – Jason Witten, Dallas Clark, Martellus Bennett
OL – Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Sebastian Vollmer, Jermon Bushrod, Todd McClure
DL – Cliff Avril, Osi Umenyiora, Chris Clemons, Dwight Freeney, Alan Branch
LB – Anthony Spencer, Manny Lawson, Brian Urlacher, Erin Henderson, James Laurinaitis
CB – Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, Jason McCourty, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Sam Shields
S – Dashon Goldson, Ed Reed, Jairus Byrd, LaRon Landry
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Not 1 of these guys is coming here. They will all be seeking far more money than Reggie is paying out.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Ok nobody came up with a better banner then me for Jax game, so nobody gets the row 5 pair,..heres my banner that I came up with and will place in my row 1 location.
Obbama/Biden 2012
Gruden/Allen 2013 (Bruce)
Have to admit its brilliant.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Little Howie Long showed us just what were missing last night….plus a lauranitus and a jenkins…I have a feeling our D will be completely over hauled in the off season….
October 5th, 2012 at 8:25 am
RaiderSam Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:10 am
damn, forgot no fourth round pick (awarded to Seattle in) Aaron Curry trade
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I think it will end up being a 5th rounder (conditional).
October 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I like T’eo, but is he projected that high?
Seems a little big and stiff to be a top 15 pick at LB, but his intangibles are off the charts.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:31 am
1223.AmysInCharge Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Ok nobody came up with a better banner then me for Jax game, so nobody gets the row 5 pair,..heres my banner that I came up with and will place in my row 1 location.
Obbama/Biden 2012
Gruden/Allen 2013 (Bruce)
Have to admit its brilliant.
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You didn’t like mine?
“Be patient. Let’s keep things in perspective here for a minute”.
But seriously, are you allowed to hoist up a banner like that that that says something that would be considered negative?
October 5th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I like T’eo, but is he projected that high?
Seems a little big and stiff to be a top 15 pick at LB, but his intangibles are off the charts.
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T’eo has the instincts and the pedigree…I keep thinking he’s a London Fletcher/Sam Mills/Zach Thomas type. …. but the fact remains Rolando McClain (barring him doing something crazy) will still be in the middle – Te’o could be on the strong side? Early projection – Seymour, Kelly, Huff possibly gone next year.
but i think the corners and DL’s especially are rated higher – the other thing is a lot of juniors may declare, and they are ranked higher in the top 20 according to Rob Rang of Draft Scout – i’ve seen David Amerson or Geno Smith/Tyler Wilson in the mock drafts i’ve seen – us picking at 7 (sigh)
October 5th, 2012 at 8:35 am
T’eo listed his heroes as Tim Tebow and Mitt Romney, lol, in a SI feature on him.
He is very religious (Mormon).
That would certainly fit the new motiff around here.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:38 am
ron69 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:50 am
5-11 at best with victories against Jags Browns Chiefs and probably Tampa but 3-13 sounds more realistic.
Next year will be gone Kelly Seymour Mclain Huff and probably Shaughnessy if some team overpays him. Just can’t rebuild with too many holes and a tight salary cap. I expect the rebuilding in 2014 and 15 with some playoff hopes in 2016.
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Wow. So next yr. is just another throw away yr. and then possibly some playoff “hope” in 2016 at the earliest?
That may well be what turns out to happen, but there is no way in he*l that that should be what we should accept as fans as the normal course of action.
Even expansion team Carolina made it to the conf. championship game in year 3 of their existence.
If Reggie is any good at all he should be able to get things rolling alot faster than that.
No NFL team gives their GM that much time to turn things around and still have a job.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am
QB – Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Jason Campbell
RB – Michael Turner, Cedric Benson, Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis
WR – Dwayne Bowe, Greg Jennings, Wes Welker, Victor Cruz, Joshua Cribbs, Ted Ginn Jr.
TE – Jason Witten, Dallas Clark, Martellus Bennett
OL – Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Sebastian Vollmer, Jermon Bushrod, Todd McClure
DL – Cliff Avril, Osi Umenyiora, Chris Clemons, Dwight Freeney, Alan Branch
LB – Anthony Spencer, Manny Lawson, Brian Urlacher, Erin Henderson, James Laurinaitis
CB – Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, Jason McCourty, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Sam Shields
S – Dashon Goldson, Ed Reed, Jairus Byrd, LaRon Landry
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Not 1 of these guys is coming here. They will all be seeking far more money than Reggie is paying out.
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Thing is, a lot of teams WITH the cap space dont sign for a lot. Those jackpot days are over. No one is overpaying for ANY of those players. Believe me, they can be had for less than you think. – Osi could cash in, but NONE of those corners are shutdown no. 1s, RBs Bush and Turner are damaged goods, and a lot of contracts are backloaded.
Listen. THEY WILL SPEND after this year, they cant afford not to. They wont go overboard, but they’ll spend more than this year once Seymour and Kelly’s cap space is freed up.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Te’o projected at 13 to the Vikes (replacing Jasper Brinkley?) – that would be top 15.
i’d say the Raiders trade down, to take advantage of quality seniors forced down as many, many Juniors enter this draft – this is a very tricky one, because there are a lot of defenders, but a bunch of raw types (Kwame Geathers, Sam Montgomery, Luke Joeckel, Barkevious Mingo, Justin Hunter, Eric Reid) – Matt Barkley is slipping – this is one of those deals where the combine numbers will push the juniors past the seniors – only Geno Smith is holding in top ten, then Chance Warmack and Tyler Wilson.
this means if Raiders stay in 10 – its dodgy, they should trade out and take their chances with Teo , John Jenkins, DT, Georgia. A lot of speed/athletic types high, but few counter moves, and there will be some surprises and deals found later. – Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St., Blidi Wren-Wilson of U.Conn and a few other sleepers.
the problem is Rolando McClain – that forces our hand to either commit to the big NT and another LB, or get rid of him, and get some scheme-ready FA’s and seniors with their head on str8.
October 5th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Wow. So next yr. is just another throw away yr. and then possibly some playoff “hope” in 2016 at the earliest?
That may well be what turns out to happen, but there is no way in he*l that that should be what we should accept as fans as the normal course of action
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no, not really – you get a high pick, build around it with FA and the quantum leap players are McFadden (in a contract year), Denarious Moore, a fully healthy Jacoby Ford, Burris comes out and surprises, and CP3 finally is in an offense.
If Allen continues to stick with him – it’ll be obvious he’s moving on to another O.C.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am
That was a great read, G123.
Appreciate it.
Pretty much confirms what a lot of us have said. Oline needs work.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:02 am
a fully healthy Jacoby Ford,
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LOL!!!
I think that ship has sailed.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:02 am
So it looks like we really just need to step up our overall football IQ on offense, and we will be fine.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:31 am
We are heading into the easiest part of our schedule.
Time to get fat on the bottom-feeders.
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We are the bottom-feeders thx to Knapp, Tarver, Hoffman, and DA.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
We are the bottom-feeders thx to Knapp, Tarver, Hoffman, and DA.
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After the Falcons game, I think we might be favored in 3 of our next 4 games afterwards.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:08 am
We don’t need a MLB. We need better talent at the DL and secondary.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
We are the bottom-feeders thx to Knapp, Tarver, Hoffman, and DA.
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After the Falcons game, I think we might be favored in 3 of our next 4 games afterwards.
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We are bottom feeders thanks to the Al Davis and his crazy spending.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Look at GB as a model for free agent spending… rarely happens. Same thing here. Reggie is going to build the squad he wants over the next 2-3 drafts. He aint going to try to buy a championship.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Firm believer in the best defense is a good offense.
Pretty clear that our Oline is just, well, let’s say we need to shore that unit up.
I’m warming up to trading down and taking that C with out 1st rd pick.
Draft a really big mountain man at NT. and play Houston and Bryant on either side of him.
Trade Kelly.
Rd1 – C
Rd2 – NT
Rd3 – S
Sign FA Corner and OG.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
We are the bottom-feeders thx to Knapp, Tarver, Hoffman, and DA.
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After the Falcons game, I think we might be favored in 3 of our next 4 games afterwards.
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We couldn’t win against Miami, so I will not be surprised if we lose to the Browns, Jax, and KC.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
1239.Raider O Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:08 am
We don’t need a MLB. We need better talent at the DL and secondary.
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We need all 3
October 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
We couldn’t win against Miami, so I will not be surprised if we lose to the Browns, Jax, and KC.
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We get all 3 of those teams at home
October 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Look at GB as a model for free agent spending… rarely happens. Same thing here. Reggie is going to build the squad he wants over the next 2-3 drafts. He aint going to try to buy a championship.
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Really? Was he the GM in GB?
Reggie is a rookie GM. Rookie!!!
I guess You People would have been happy with anyone but AL as a GM.
You People ate Sad & Disgusting!
“we trust our new rookie GM, but we hate our HOF owner/ GM who gave us 5 SBs and 3 rings”.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Are*
I hope you are right SNBPA.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
O,
Calm down dude.
No one here hated Al Davis.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Btw, I was talking in general and not directly to Bcz.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/steelers-plan-attack-candy-bar-brandon-boykins-174608728–nfl.html
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Looks like Joselio Hanson’s replacement isn’t much better then him.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:34 am
J Hill Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
O,
Calm down dude.
No one here hated Al Davis.
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No one here hated AL? lol
October 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
There are people here who are
trying to Blane our 1-3 start this season in AL.
Disgusting!!!!!
October 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Really? Was he the GM in GB?
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You do what you know. Reggie was part of the personal team that did things one way for 15+ years. He isn’t going to abandon the way he learned how to do things.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:41 am
ron69 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 7:50 am
5-11 at best with victories against Jags Browns Chiefs and probably Tampa but 3-13 sounds more realistic.
Next year will be gone Kelly Seymour Mclain Huff and probably Shaughnessy if some team overpays him. Just can’t rebuild with too many holes and a tight salary cap. I expect the rebuilding in 2014 and 15 with some playoff hopes in 2016.
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Wow. So next yr. is just another throw away yr. and then possibly some playoff “hope” in 2016 at the earliest?
That may well be what turns out to happen, but there is no way in he*l that that should be what we should accept as fans as the normal course of action.
Even expansion team Carolina made it to the conf. championship game in year 3 of their existence.
If Reggie is any good at all he should be able to get things rolling alot faster than that.
No NFL team gives their GM that much time to turn things around and still have a job.
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Even if we have the first overall pick in 13 and 14 you can’t really expect the rookies to change over the team
inmediately not Bradford not Luck not Newton not RGIII are doing it so far so what can we expect? a total make over and place a good chemystry between FA, rookies and the few bright spots we have (Moore McFadden Veldeheer) amd it will take some time, some examples are the Lions and Falcons, they took about 4 to 5 years rebulding the Rams might be close too.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:41 am
There are people here who are
trying to Blane our 1-3 start this season in AL.
Disgusting!!!!!
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People are too quick to try to pin the whole thing on one person or another.
Fact is, Al deserves SOME blame for this team, just the same as he would deserve a lot of credit if we were 4-0 right now.
Same with Reggie, the current coaching staff, the players, etc.
Plenty of blame to pass around. Give me a minute, and I would be happy to locate some blame to pin on Jamarcus still.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:42 am
There are people here who are
trying to Blane our 1-3 start this season in AL.
Disgusting!!!!!
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Blame him? Not really, I say that the reason we suck is because we have a lack of talent primarily on defense, which is a direct result of Al Davis’ drafting and contract mismanagement, and the beginning steps that reggie had to take to correct those errors.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:42 am
1252.Raider O Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
There are people here who are
trying to Blane our 1-3 start this season in AL.
Disgusting!!!!!
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Look at the 22 starters for Game 1 this year (I will stretch a bit and replace Streater with Moore because he would’ve started had be been healthy):
Palmer
McFadden*
Reece*
Veldheer*
Carlisle*
Wiz*
Brisiel
Barnes*
Moore*
DHB*
Myers*
Houston*
Seymour*
Kelly*
Shaughnessy*
Wheeler
McClain*
Burris
Branch*
Huff*
Spencer
Bartell
16 out of 22 starters (73%) were drafted or signed by Al Davis. It’s still very much his team. If we were 3-1, he’d deserve a large share of credit too.
Two of the monster, ill-advised contracts Reggie had to dump in order to become cap compliant? Both signed by Al Davis too I might add.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
not Bradford not Luck not Newton not RGIII are doing it so far so what can we expect?
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The only young QB’s to take a last placed team to the playoffs immediately lately, has been Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton.
It can happen, but most often it doesn’t.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Blame*
On*
October 5th, 2012 at 9:45 am
1253.bcz24 Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Really? Was he the GM in GB?
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You do what you know. Reggie was part of the personal team that did things one way for 15+ years. He isn’t going to abandon the way he learned how to do things.
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A personnel team that built a perennial contender and Super Bowl champion while he was there, I might add.
Also, Reggie was 2nd in command right below Ted Thompson. He wasn’t just some guy in an office somewhere Mark Davis found by accident.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:45 am
zzzzzzzzzzzz
October 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Look at the 22 starters for Game 1 this year (I will stretch a bit and replace Streater with Moore because he would’ve started had be been healthy):
Palmer
McFadden*
Reece*
Veldheer*
Carlisle*
Wiz*
Brisiel
Barnes*
Moore*
DHB*
Myers*
Houston*
Seymour*
Kelly*
Shaughnessy*
Wheeler
McClain*
Burris
Branch*
Huff*
Spencer
Bartell
16 out of 22 starters (73%) were drafted or signed by Al Davis. It’s still very much his team. If we were 3-1, he’d deserve a large share of credit too.
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Last year we were 4-2 with this team before DMAC was injured. Now this team is 1-3, so you can’t blame AL. Blame the Coaches!
October 5th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Why do you guys keep saying we are 1-3! You think we can beat Atlanta? lmao We are 1-4!
October 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Blame the coaches my ass. We’ve had what 8 different coaches since our last winning season. 8 bad coaches in a row huh. Sure thing man. Keep kidding yourself.
October 5th, 2012 at 9:54 am
1263.Dakota Says:
October 5th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Why do you guys keep saying we are 1-3! You think we can beat Atlanta? lmao We are 1-4!
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I’m not totally convinced we won’t give up 30 and lose to the Bye.
October 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
John Fox = 23 years coaching in the NFL
Jack Del Rio = 15 years coaching in the NFL
Total: 38 years experience of coaching in the NFL
We simply got outcoached last week!
October 5th, 2012 at 10:06 am
I wonder if we could just forfeit next weeks game?
October 5th, 2012 at 10:17 am
We got out everythinged last week.
October 5th, 2012 at 10:18 am
DAV,
The Dwight drama begins….Dwight telling Shaq to STFU….thin-skinned?
October 5th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Raiders Palmer says lots of players sticking around during bye to get better . .
We’ve heard this $hit before…need to see it on gameday for 4 f***in quarters!
October 5th, 2012 at 11:39 am
“It’s a things that’s going to take time and we’re definitely moving in the right direction and we’re definitely close to where we want to be.”
Sounds like a “politically correct” statement to me! After the Donko ass-kicking we got, this really sounds like BS!!!