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Evaluation process in full swing for Raiders

Coach Dennis Allen promised a thorough evaluation of his team over the next two weeks. That process will take him and his coaching staff from A to Z, Allen said.
As of now, the process is somewhere in the middle, Allen said. Now that the players are off for the next four days, the process kicks into overdrive.
“The process has begun,” Allen said. “We’re going to continue to evaluate it. The players are going to be off but the coaches are still going to have some time to work. We’ll continue to look at every phase of what we’re doing, how we’re doing it, who’s doing it and we’re going to put the play together that we feel like gives us the best opportunity to win.”
The Raiders return to practice Monday in preparation for their next game, Oct. 14 against the Atlanta Falcons.
Quarterback Carson Palmer said the players were instructed to get some rest physically but to keep working mentally. In short, that means studying the video tape given them by their coaches.
“That’s something coach really emphasized,” Palmer said. “You can go one of two ways. You can say, ‘Screw it, I’m going to Vegas and party for four days,’ and that’s not what this team is about. Most of these guys are sticking around, are going to come in and work out.”
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour talked Monday about the need for players to have fun. He said players tend to take losses too hard and lose sight of the fun aspect of the game.
“That isn’t the way the game is played,” Seymour said. “We’re playing a game and we’re very fortunate and blessed to do it. We have to go out and play it as such. As you get down and things get tough, you can’t go into the tank. A man has to come out and have to battle and have to fight and you have to have fun doing it. It’s tough when you have to get it back on track.”
That’s all well and good, Allen said, but there’s a fine line that needs to be walked.
“There’s fun and there’s a sense of purpose,” Allen said. “It’s a game, and you’re supposed to have fun playing the game, but it’s also a business and we have a job to do. Our guys realize that. Nobody takes it any harder than the coaches and players in this organization. We understand that we have a job to do. We understand what’s at stake and we take that job seriously.”

– Third-down conversions and third-down stops. The Raiders struggled in both areas, for the most part, in all four games.
Hence, Allen and his coaching staff are harping on the importance of turning third-down plays into first downs on offense and preventing opposing offenses from converting so many third-down plays into first downs.
“That’s been a big focus for us this week,” Allen said. “It will continue to be a big focus for us. We have to find ways to convert on third down and get off the field on third down defensively.”
The Raiders converted only 1 of 12 third-down plays into first downs against the Broncos last Sunday. Meanwhile, the Broncos netted first downs on 10 of 16 such plays.
Overall, the Raiders converted 27.5 percent of their third-down plays the first four games, while opponents’ success rate reached 53.3 percent.
“It’s been really good to get everybody on the same page and see why certain things we do well work and why certain things that we didn’t do well didn’t work and how we can make adjustments,” Palmer said. “It’s been a good week.”

– People are clamoring for the Raiders to use quarterback Terrelle Pryor in some sort of special package, perhaps along the lines of how the New York Jets use Tim Tebow and the 49ers used Colin Kaepernick against the Jets last Sunday.
Pryor said last week, when asked if anything is in the works, that he isn’t sure when, or if, he might be used in a special package. Allen said Wednesday that how Pryor gets used, if at all, moving forward is under consideration.
“I don’t know,” Allen said. “We’ll look at that. We still have some time before we have to play Atlanta. That will be something we look at. I don’t know if that’s in our plans right now.”
Pryor hasn’t been active for any of Oaklan’s first four regular-season games.

– Allen said recently signed defensive end Andre Carter put together two good practices this week and that Carter is getting closer to seeing the field in a game.
Carter signed last week, but he wasn’t active for the game against the Denver Broncos.

– Allen remains “hopeful” that wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey will be cleared to play by team doctors in time for the Falcons game.
Heyward-Bey practiced today for the second straight day and seemed to hold up well on the heels of the concussion he suffered against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sept. 23.
“He looked fine,” Allen said. “He’s not quite fully back but, obviously, there’s been a lot of improvement. So, that’s encouraging.”

– Seymour was excused from practice today for personal reasons, Allen said.

– In each of the past two games, a Raiders defensive lineman chased a play well downfield and ended up involved in a long gain turning into a fumble recovered by the Raiders.
Against the Steelers, Seymour got his hands on a fumble by a Steelers receiver just before linebacker Philip Wheeler recovered. Last Sunday, defensive end Lamarr Houston recovered a fumble, the result of strong safety Tyvon Branch’s hot pursuit, after a long catch-and-run by Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas.
Defensive coordinator Jason Tarver calls those “hustle plays,” the kind of which the Raiders need more of each game, he said.

– Most teams prefer their bye week fall somewhere near the midpoint of the season. Palmer is one who prefers byes later in the season. However, he said the Raiders bye week comes at an ideal time.
“A lot of times bye week can come … so far into the season that you just need a break,” Palmer said. “I don’t feel like guys think we need a break. We’re frustrated that we are where we are because of the way we’ve executed. And we were all talking and we were in the team meeting, this is a week to get better, there are meetings to get better, workouts, these practices are a chance to get better. I really feel like we got a lot of accomplished this week.”

– The Raiders no doubt can’t wait for the day when the entire playing surface at the Coliseum is covered with grass. That won’t happen until the A’s are finished playing.
Even so, Allen said he and the Raiders are pulling for the A’s to keep their magical season rolling.
“We’ve obviously paid attention to them,” Allen said. “We know they got a chance to win the division. We wish them well and hope for the best for them.”

– The New Jersey Shore Raiders booster club is making sure that former Raiders safety Jack Tatum will be remembered for a long time by having a street named in Tatum’s honor.
The corner of Paulison Ave. and River Drive will be changed to Jack Tatum Drive on Oct. 13, in Passaic, New Jersey. Tatum was born in North Carolina, but he was raised in Passaic, where he attended Passaic High School.

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  • 303Raider

    Sometimes you need to take a few steps backwards to take a leap forward.

    We are all excited about 8-8, we are really a desperate fan base.

    Reggie needs time, those are the facts. He was also left with NO draft picks. Can we a least blame that on some one else?

  • Twocents

    RaidO, you ever had a job, a real job.
    What do you know about the cap?
    What do you know about anything?

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.”

    I hear you man that was a lame move.

  • morilla

    I really wish we could have gotten Chris Long.

  • http://trolls.com Troll Master

    lefty12 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.

    ==================================================

    Especially todays posts. My word. It just gets flat out ass nasty in here.

  • DJ Johnny

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
    “To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.”

    I hear you man that was a lame move.

    One of the ways it gets spun (and I hate this) is by minimizing the 8-8 season and any success in it as being a “weak” 8-8…or a “mirage”.

    Before the season everyone knew it was a tough schedule; some even called it brutal. Guys talk about how we “barely won” certain games and got blown out in others. You either win or you lose. Simple.

    I even saw a post that attempted to diminish the win at SD becuz “Carson was basically playing in his backyard from his home in LaJolla”. WTF difference does that make? Geez.

    Here’s the thing. I can take our 76 Raider team and go thru the schedule game by game and make a case that “we shouldn’t have won that”. “Yeah we barely beat Pittsburgh that first game” “If Stabler didn’t play out of his mind and lead us back from 14 down in the 4th we lose that game…period”.

    Ok…

    There were more than a few games Raiders won that yr. that were close…and “we could’ve lost”. Guess what? WE DIDN’T. That’s how sports is…sometimes you win close games. You can’t just diminish wins that are close cuz “it could’ve gone either way”.

    So if we don’t blow a team out it shouldn’t count? Or it’s a “mirage”.

    Give the Pats the Lombardi for last yr. cuz after all “Giants could’ve easily lost. IF Brady hits that last hail mary or Gronkowski is a few feet to his left he makes that catch. It’s a “weak” Super Bowl win”.

    You know what kind of people spend time diminishing Raider wins and any successes?

    Bronco and Charger fans.

  • http://bigswede.com Klas Tjorborn

    Troll Master Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    lefty12 Says:
    October 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    I hope no national media people read this blog and actually believe it is a true representative of Raider fans.

    ==================================================

    Especially todays posts. My word. It just gets flat out ass nasty in here.
    ———-
    National media and most of America already think Raider fans are lowlifes.

  • Missus Beeecham

    HOLLA

    missus b just got home from a long day at work. i’m a refuse technician at the local transfer station, so whin i com home and have to drop a duece on the living room floor, its almost a breth of fresh air. aint no garbage dump got nuthin on me. me and holla aint got nuthin to hide.

    DRIZZLE WIZZLE AND MO SCHIZZLE

  • RaidO

    DJ Johnny Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
    “To think Reggie and DA sat down and evaluated the team knowing the Raiders had the #5 Oline and DMAC was leading the NFL in rushing before the injury then hire Knapp and go ZBS is crazy. These guys are idiots. No way to spin that.”

    I hear you man that was a lame move.

    One of the ways it gets spun (and I hate this) is by minimizing the 8-8 season and any success in it as being a “weak” 8-8…or a “mirage”.

    Before the season everyone knew it was a tough schedule; some even called it brutal. Guys talk about how we “barely won” certain games and got blown out in others. You either win or you lose. Simple.

    I even saw a post that attempted to diminish the win at SD becuz “Carson was basically playing in his backyard from his home in LaJolla”. WTF difference does that make? Geez.

    Here’s the thing. I can take our 76 Raider team and go thru the schedule game by game and make a case that “we shouldn’t have won that”. “Yeah we barely beat Pittsburgh that first game” “If Stabler didn’t play out of his mind and lead us back from 14 down in the 4th we lose that game…period”.

    Ok…

    There were more than a few games Raiders won that yr. that were close…and “we could’ve lost”. Guess what? WE DIDN’T. That’s how sports is…sometimes you win close games. You can’t just diminish wins that are close cuz “it could’ve gone either way”.

    So if we don’t blow a team out it shouldn’t count? Or it’s a “mirage”.

    Give the Pats the Lombardi for last yr. cuz after all “Giants could’ve easily lost. IF Brady hits that last hail mary or Gronkowski is a few feet to his left he makes that catch. It’s a “weak” Super Bowl win”.

    You know what kind of people spend time diminishing Raider wins and any successes?

    Bronco and Charger fans.
    —————————————

    Yeah i like how you brought up the NY Giants there. Every other year it seams like those Giants fans were calling for Tom Coughlin to be fired. “CONTINUITY” won them that super bowl last year. Raiders(Reggie/Mark) should have took some notes on that.
    This should have been the year that 8-8 turns into at least 10-6 and a deep playoff run.

  • RaidO

    seems*

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    THE OAKLAND A’s have given Bay Area fans more excitment in 3 days then the RAIDERS have given us in 10 years .. get it together Raiders sheeet

  • DJ Johnny

    1059,

    Yeah. NYG found a way to get it done.

    But remember…that 8-8 wasn’t REALLY 8-8…it was”6-10 at best” cuz “we barely hung on” in a few games…so being the great Raider fans they are they say “we shoudl’ve lost”, and you count the close games we won cuz “it could’ve gone either way”.

    Spoken like true KC Chief fans.

  • RaidO

    John Gruden head coach Raiders:

    1998: 8-8
    1999: 8-8
    2000: 12-4
    2001 10-6

    Hue Jackson Raiders:

    OC 2010 8-8
    HC 2011 8-8
    2012 ???
    2013 ???

    Ahhh what could have been. What should have been.
    Some fans do not realize we started “building” in 2010.
    It has been cut off. Destroyed

  • MikieG

    Its a strange feeling watching the St. Louis Lambs and the Arizona Cardinals Defenses making ours look like something out of the Lingerie League. They got athletes ALL over the field on the defensive side of the ball.
    Its gonna take us 3 years to build a defensive line that even remotely looks like either one of these.

  • Twocents

    I am quite sick of “most Americans”.
    Most Americans think they are entitled, they think they deserve something they have not earned. They think the rest of the world should serve them, they think that their government is so righteous that it entitles them to go into foreign countries and kill women and children just so they can feel safe and have access to their resources.
    There is a hell that is going to rain down on us and quite frankly, we deserve it.

  • DJ Johnny

    What it is…is that (most) of the ones that say this stuff HATE the fact that the team was a defensive stop away from the div. title becuz it was still “Al’s team” essentially; coached by one of “Al’s guys” with a team filled with “Al’s players”.

    Funny, when I looked at the review of our schedule last yr. it said 8-8….Gee, i thought it was supposed to be a “mirage” and didn’t really happen in real life.

    I’m convinced that alot of guys would rather lose with Reggies guys than win with “Al’s guys”.

    It’s true.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Im telling u Raider fans .. if we ever get back on top.. there will nothing like it. THERE will be nothing like PLAYOFF ATMOSPHERE in the O.Co colisieum.

    We need a HOG DEFENSE FIRST!!

  • DJ Johnny

    MikieG Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    Its a strange feeling watching the St. Louis Lambs and the Arizona Cardinals Defenses making ours look like something out of the Lingerie League. They got athletes ALL over the field on the defensive side of the ball.
    Its gonna take us 3 years to build a defensive line that even remotely looks like either one of these.

    Why should we have to wait three yrs. just to have a decent line when Carolina AN EXPANSION TEAM made the Conf. Champ. game in yr. 3…OF THEIR EXISTENCE?

    Maybe Raider fans should demand/expect a little more.

  • Gdog

    DJ Johnny Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    I’m convinced that alot of guys would rather lose with Reggies guys than win with “Al’s guys”.

    It’s true.

    >>>>

    That’s pretty much it in a nut shell!

    Nicely put.

  • DJ Johnny

    RaidO Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    John Gruden head coach Raiders:

    1998: 8-8
    1999: 8-8
    2000: 12-4
    2001 10-6

    Hue Jackson Raiders:

    OC 2010 8-8
    HC 2011 8-8
    2012 ???
    2013 ???

    Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.

    Plus u have to take away the close games…could’ve gone either way.

  • http://bigswede.com Klas Tjorborn

    MikieG Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    Its a strange feeling watching the St. Louis Lambs and the Arizona Cardinals Defenses making ours look like something out of the Lingerie League. They got athletes ALL over the field on the defensive side of the ball.
    Its gonna take us 3 years to build a defensive line that even remotely looks like either one of these.
    —–
    They have had the high picks and made them count. Big Al had the high picks and pissed them away like a light beer.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.”

    I just spit out my ice tea I laughed so hard at that!

  • RaidO

    DJ Johnny Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    RaidO Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    John Gruden head coach Raiders:

    1998: 8-8
    1999: 8-8
    2000: 12-4
    2001 10-6

    Hue Jackson Raiders:

    OC 2010 8-8
    HC 2011 8-8
    2012 ???
    2013 ???

    Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.

    Plus u have to take away the close games…could’ve gone either
    —————————

    I would put a *asterisk on 2011 for Hue.
    *Starting QB and NFL leading rusher injured. That may have been a 10-6 or 11-5 year.

  • Gdog

    Ahhh what could have been. What should have been.
    Some fans do not realize we started “building” in 2010.
    It has been cut off. Destroyed

    >>>>

    All to satisfy person ego’s… think of it.

    St. Mckenzie didn’t want Hue around because he was a control freak, despite having a top 10 offense and the support of the whole team.

    OUT HE GOES.

    St. McK hires a green horn HC that doesn’t know lick about offense… but instead of hiring Saunders as his OC, he hires the only dunce in the NFL that he has a relationship with instead. A guy that already failed miserably with the Raiders.

    So what happens after this? The only offense that Carson Palmer likes is the no-huddle.. so he can call his own plays at the LOS. Ego-trip Knapp doesn’t allow this until game three… it works to perfection and we beat a very solid Pitts team.

    What happens after this? Knapp figures.. screw this, I don’t get to do anything besides stand on the sidelines and suck my thumb… I am calling all the plays vs Denver… we score a whopping 5 points, vs 34 against Pitts.

    Does this staff put their own person agenda above WINS?

    You be the judge.

    This staff is concerned with NOTHING besides self-interest. Same as McDaniels with Denver, and Haley with KC.

    Two four win seasons ahead of us folks… and then starting all over again.

    The worst franchise in the NFL… sorry… this is not a fix… it’s a step backwards.

  • DJ Johnny

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    “Wait Raido. You have to take away the one in SD cuz Palmer was playing near his home in LaJolla…can’t count that one.”

    I just spit out my ice tea I laughed so hard at that!

    What’s funnier is someone (can’t remember) who actually said that earlier…Good one huh? Geez.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    THese Raiders are good at talking a good game.. what they are doing.. the film they are watching .. the changes they are making, how close they are to being good , then…………………………..

    the games actually start and they lose as always

  • http://bigswede.com Klas Tjorborn

    Why Hue Jackson secondary coach with Bengals?

  • http://bigswede.com Klas Tjorborn

    Cardinals still suck.

  • Raider Ren

    Why does’nt nfl network jsut show the whole game online? I’m tired of these “live look in ” BS …

  • DJ Johnny

    1074,

    Nice post GDog.

    I’m holding out a little hope that after the humiliation at the hands of his former team and the embarrassment of “laugh gate” where his will to win and aversion to losing came into question (rightly or wrongly) has touched off something in DA…his “competitive nature” if u will.

    He is aware that even the national media is questioning whether Hue should’ve been replaced by him in the 1st place. I hope he sees that as an insult. Not that I see it that way, but I hope he does…cuz it’s real…people are wondering this.

    So now….he says “screw this….screw Knapp…this is MY team and I’m not gonna let Knapp or anyone else make me look like an unqualified fool”.

    He now wants to WIN more than anything…so he makes the needed “adjustments” and we see a team committed to WINNING instead of one blindly devoted to schemes that don’t work with the roster at his disposal.

    This is my hope.

  • Twinkle

    Evening all.
    First time I’ve felt like posting since Sunday’s debacle.
    Anyone here still believe in the WCO and DA’s defensive
    capability?
    Would we be in the same position with Huejax?
    Answer NO!!!
    The players we have were not picked for this garbage!
    The regime has just presided over the worst arsekicking
    this team has had to endure since god knows when.
    Propose this deal….regime for DVD.
    Huejax upgraded the QB position and showed amazing flair as a play caller.These guys have cut down the penalties and our balls off to boot.
    End result is that the product is unwatchable.

  • Raider guy

    Take it or leave it but a family friend of mine was a coach for the raiders with the cable regime and hue did not have a ton of support with the players. Jerry talked about it briefly when they lost our tight end, miller, to Seattle. Hue would say one thing and do another. He was interested in one thing, himself. Look what happened when he got that down grade coaching position in Cincinnati…immediately tried to make a lateral move to New York. Reggie couldn’t hang with hue because hue was not an honest human being with anyone but himself. That came from players, coaches, and reporters. Ask cork at the next chat.

  • Raider Ren

    I just don’t see how this team can win any thing with Knapp calling plays I hope Palmer goes no huddle the rest of the season .

  • DJ Johnny

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    Why Hue Jackson secondary coach with Bengals?

    He’s too “uppity” outspoken and power hungry. It scares most teams off; otherwise how does one explain how a Raider team with this “terrible” roster, his best player injured and his starting QB out for the yr. and still goes 8-8…in his first yr. as a HC?

  • MikieG

    I cannot believe how old and slow our defense looks compared to what I just watched by these to disgusting teams tonight…Wheeler, Burris, and Branch are the only ones that should still be on the team in 3 years..we need 8 more guys that can explode off the ball, beat the guy or guys in front of them, and get to the quarterback.

  • MikieG

    DJ Johnny Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    Why Hue Jackson secondary coach with Bengals?

    He’s too “uppity” outspoken and power hungry.
    ++++++++

    Wonder if he got to Cincy and said “Where all the white Bengals at??”

  • Twinkle

    Raider guy Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Take it or leave it but a family friend of mine was a coach for the raiders with the cable regime and hue did not have a ton of support with the players. Jerry talked about it briefly when they lost our tight end, miller, to Seattle. Hue would say one thing and do another. He was interested in one thing, himself. Look what happened when he got that down grade coaching position in Cincinnati…immediately tried to make a lateral move to New York. Reggie couldn’t hang with hue because hue was not an honest human being with anyone but himself. That came from players, coaches, and reporters. Ask cork at the next chat.
    *****************************************************
    Don’t doubt it for a minute.
    The point isn’t that Huejax was or is a scumbag.It is
    that at least he knew the team mentality.
    These people are into turning water into stone.
    Huejax may not have won this game but he would never have been blown out.

  • Raider guy

    Rebuilding sucks but it had to be done. I think, only my opinion, but the reason we suck has less to do with coaching and more to do with talent. Can’t stop the pass because we got corners off the street. Can’t get ahead cause we can’t stop the pass. Can’t spend time running because we get too far behind. Wimbley, asomugha, routt, were not worth what thy were paid to the entirety of the team. Kelly and Seymour are old. McClain is mcClain. Stating a rookie at weakside linebacker because our vet has been out for the year. And we were having try outs for Cbs every week this season. Receivers haven’t all been healthy this year. Starting tackle goes out. And we loose to San Diego be cause four turnovers due to a back up long snapper. Give me a break with your judgements about how bad or good this regime is. We won’t know for a couple years at least. This is what had to happen. This is what does happen when you build a team.

  • DJ Johnny

    1082,

    I don’t dispute what you’re saying, but why have we not heard any of that from any of the players that played for him?

    You always hear this stuff but it’s always someone “anonymous” that these things get attributed to.

    Like I said, I don’t deny it’s true, i’m just sayin…

  • DJ Johnny

    1086, Yes Blazing Saddles…lol. I didn’t mean it THAT way.

  • Raider guy

    The alternative is that hue continues on…we keep putting bandaids on gashes, and we turn into a team like the Seahawks or titans or bengals…mid level teams that may make some noise now and again but never threaten to become a force…you know?

  • Twinkle

    Got a new cop on Dumerville.He could have retired CP
    legally on a play and chose not to.He landed on him like
    Siragusa did on Gannon but protected him by landing as if he was doing a pushup.
    Total class!!!He made the whooping much easier to swallow

  • Raider guy

    I would feel the same exact way about anonymous sources if I was reading this. That’s why you can take it or leave it and wouldn’t blame you if you decided to leave it.

  • DJ Johnny

    1088,

    Raider Guy, the issue that will never go away (unless they go on a winning streak) is that alot of people feel this didn’t need to be torn down and “built”.

    Easier to talk about “building” when u just came off a 4-12 season…not one where u were a defensive stop away from the division…with a young team to boot.

    The debate will continue becuz of this.

    Right or wrong.

  • DJ Johnny

    Raider guy Says:
    October 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    I would feel the same exact way about anonymous sources if I was reading this. That’s why you can take it or leave it and wouldn’t blame you if you decided to leave it.

    I’m not saying I don’t believe you. I’ve heard it from other “sources” as well..just not any players. I’d be interested to hear their take.

  • Twinkle

    Guy…rebuilding this team is gonna take more years than you and I have left combined.
    You are right no doubt but asking a fanbase to go there
    with no guarantee of success is gonna fly like a lead fart.
    Bandaids on bullet wounds is not a fix but I fear for the organization’s ability to persevere.
    We live in the now as in what have you done for ME now
    generation.

  • Twinkle

    Plus DA looking like a young Ratface doesn’t help.

  • Raider guy

    Dj and twinkle, I totally appreciate the thoughtful talk. Dude. Refreshing from what I am used to in here. Thanks.

  • Raider guy

    Pus…the l.a. Thing makes me want to get it done quick because we need asses in seats. Mark went to Chico though, so I think he is a nor cal boy through and through

  • J Hill

    Can’t stop the pass because we got corners off the street. Can’t get ahead cause we can’t stop the pass. Can’t spend time running because we get too far behind. Wimbley, asomugha, routt, were not worth what thy were paid to the entirety of the team. Kelly and Seymour are old. McClain is mcClain. Stating a rookie at weakside linebacker because our vet has been out for the year. And we were having try outs for Cbs every week this season. Receivers haven’t all been healthy this year. Starting tackle goes out. And we loose to San Diego be cause four turnovers due to a back up long snapper.

    ————————————————————-

    Agreed