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  • SilverNBlackPA

    1252.Raider O Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
    There are people here who are
    trying to Blane our 1-3 start this season in AL.
    Disgusting!!!!!

    ++++++++++

    Look at the 22 starters for Game 1 this year (I will stretch a bit and replace Streater with Moore because he would’ve started had be been healthy):

    Palmer
    McFadden*
    Reece*
    Veldheer*
    Carlisle*
    Wiz*
    Brisiel
    Barnes*
    Moore*
    DHB*
    Myers*

    Houston*
    Seymour*
    Kelly*
    Shaughnessy*
    Wheeler
    McClain*
    Burris
    Branch*
    Huff*
    Spencer
    Bartell

    16 out of 22 starters (73%) were drafted or signed by Al Davis. It’s still very much his team. If we were 3-1, he’d deserve a large share of credit too.

    Two of the monster, ill-advised contracts Reggie had to dump in order to become cap compliant? Both signed by Al Davis too I might add

  • J Hill

    4th!!!

  • SilverNBlackPA

    1253.bcz24 Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    Really? Was he the GM in GB?
    **********
    You do what you know. Reggie was part of the personal team that did things one way for 15+ years. He isn’t going to abandon the way he learned how to do things.

    +++++++++++++++

    A personnel team that built a perennial contender and Super Bowl champion while he was there, I might add.

    Also, Reggie was 2nd in command right below Ted Thompson. He wasn’t just some guy in an office somewhere Mark Davis found by accident.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I can see us getting an early modest lead, and have Branch make a play and do something stupid, like some rehearsed dance or mocking the original dirty bird dance or something.

    Only to get scorched in the 2nd half so he looks incredibly dumb.

    Kind of par for the course these days.

  • J Hill

    Tony Gonzales against Branch next weekend????

    SMH

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Look at the 22 starters for Game 1 this year (I will stretch a bit and replace Streater with Moore because he would’ve started had be been healthy):

    Palmer
    McFadden*
    Reece*
    Veldheer*
    Carlisle*
    Wiz*
    Brisiel
    Barnes*
    Moore*
    DHB*
    Myers*

    Houston*
    Seymour*
    Kelly*
    Shaughnessy*
    Wheeler
    McClain*
    Burris
    Branch*
    Huff*
    Spencer
    Bartell

    16 out of 22 starters (73%) were drafted or signed by Al Davis. It’s still very much his team. If we were 3-1, he’d deserve a large share of credit too.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Last year we were 4-2 with this team before DMAC was injured. Now this team is 1-3, so you can’t blame AL. Blame the Coaches!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Should have just let Branch play for the franchise tag this season.

    We didn’t really do anything with the cap space saved, and now we guaranteed him more dough, while his play went right into the crapper.

  • J Hill

    Blame the Coaches!

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    Did you look at that link G123 provided???

    CLEARLY, the players on the Oline need to get their head outta their arsses!

  • J Hill

    LOL, JFB.

    Remember when Branch referenced the heat he was taking and you and I openly questioned where he could have been getting that from?

    RRS and I were the ONLY ones screaming about how bad this guy has been.

    He’s literally been terrible since opening day in Tenn.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    7.Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Should have just let Branch play for the franchise tag this season.

    We didn’t really do anything with the cap space saved, and now we guaranteed him more dough, while his play went right into the crapper.

    ++++++++++++++

    I’m a big Reggie guy, but the guaranteed money given to Branch was a big, BIG mistake that’s going to be hard to shake off. The guaranteed money won’t be fully paid until the 3rd year of the deal.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Bcz24 Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:42 am
    There are people here who are
    trying to Blane our 1-3 start this season in AL.
    Disgusting!!!!!
    *******
    Blame him? Not really, I say that the reason we suck is because we have a lack of talent primarily on defense, which is a direct result of Al Davis’ drafting and contract mismanagement, and the beginning steps that reggie had to take to correct those errors.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I see.
    Al is paying Wimbley how much to play for the titans?
    Why did Al draft a 26 YO rookie OG who was inactive the 1st 3 games with his 1st pick?
    Who did Al choose to sign 2 vet CBs who didn’t play last season to be our starting CBs this season?
    Al should have signed Carter and Porter too!

    You People….

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    J Hill Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:57 am
    Blame the Coaches!

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    Did you look at that link G123 provided???

    CLEARLY, the players on the Oline need to get their head outta their arsses!
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    CLEARLY!!!
    The damn players switched positions and the scheme. WTF was I thinking blaming the coaches. We should blame the players who switched their positions and the scheme.

    Damn you Players.

  • r8eray

    John Fox = 23 years coaching in the NFL

    Jack Del Rio = 15 years coaching in the NFL

    Total: 38 years experience of coaching in the NFL

    We simply got outcoached last week!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Wiz switched to C and CC switched to LG, and the entire OL decided to switch our blocking scheme!!

    You People….

  • bcz24

    I’m a big Reggie guy, but the guaranteed money given to Branch was a big, BIG mistake that’s going to be hard to shake off. The guaranteed money won’t be fully paid until the 3rd year of the deal.
    ***********************
    Not true. Branch has big salaries in 2013 and 2015, and big roster bonuses, neither of which is guaranteed if you dont make the roster. Reggie didn’t write contracts like Al with HUGE signing bonuses that you cant escape. If we cut branch after this season it will only cost us 4.2 mill (if he is on the roster next season he will cost 10 mill). You have to dig a little deeper than the “4 year 26mill” to get the facts. Reggie protected the future of this team in all the contracts that he did, something Al was unable to do.

  • J Hill

    The damn players switched positions and the scheme.

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    Yeah, I guess the coaches should have realized they had a bunch of mental midgets on the squad who couldn’t understand basic blocking assignments.

    Did you read the article, O?

    Guys double teaming one guy and leaving other defenders free?

    That is unaccetable to not know your assignment, man!

  • r8eray

    I wonder if we could just forfeit next weeks game?

  • bcz24

    I see.
    Al is paying Wimbley how much to play for the titans?
    Why did Al draft a 26 YO rookie OG who was inactive the 1st 3 games with his 1st pick?
    Who did Al choose to sign 2 vet CBs who didn’t play last season to be our starting CBs this season?
    Al should have signed Carter and Porter too!

    You People….
    ************************
    His first pick… lol. 97th overall is a pick you use for developmental players. Bergstrom is a developmental olineman versed in our OL scheme. Reggie HAD to pick up those 2 cbs because he couldnt afford anything else after clearing 50 million dollars in ALS contract mistakes. Wimbley was indisputabley not worth 11 million dollars, and if he was on the roster this year his guaranteed money the next to years was even worse. We had to bite the bullet.

    Do some research on capology brother. Really try to learn something about it, you will see the light, you are a smart dude.

  • J Hill

    Wiz switched to C and CC switched to LG

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    Al drafted Wiz to play C.

    Or maybe you forgot the PC right after the draft?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    J,

    No I didn’t read it. Can you post the link please?
    The issue is still the same. The same players did well last year, you agree? what changed? The scheme and positions played, and who are you going to blame that on? Players?

  • guest123

    Wimbley was indisputabley not worth 11 million dollars, and if he was on the roster this year his guaranteed money the next to years was even worse. We had to bite the bullet.

    *********

    That was a good choice by Reggie. Since an opening day sack, Wimbley has disappeared and been constantly run over on his side. Tennessee made a huge error.

  • R8ER MIKE

    GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Dave Tollefson has been almost as “productive” as Wimbley has.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Bcz,

    You don’t draft a developmental player with your 1st pick regardless what pick it is when you so many needs on the defense. We needed a NT and Ta’amu was available, we needed a LB, DE, and CB. What did Reggie do? He drafted a backup OG.
    Great Pick Reggie!!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Dave Tollefson has been almost as “productive” as Wimbley has.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL

  • Just Fire Baby

    Wimbley has 8 tackles, 1 sack, 4 QB hurries
    Tollefson has 6 tackles, .5 sack, 3 QB hurries

    Not bad for 1/10th the price.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Good Day ODB.
    Long Live The ODB.
    Vote Green in 2016!

  • bcz24

    24.Raider O Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    Bcz,

    You don’t draft a developmental player with your 1st pick regardless what pick it is when you so many needs on the defense. We needed a NT and Ta’amu was available, we needed a LB, DE, and CB. What did Reggie do? He drafted a backup OG.
    Great Pick Reggie!!
    *******************
    Ta’Amu huh… you mean the guy who hasn’t suited up yet for the steelers? Sure thing. That would have made all the difference.

    Use your head man. How many impact players come out of the 4th round and later? 95% of the players drafted that late are developmental players. 5% are instant contributors. The fact that with our limited draft picks the Reggie even found ONE starter is pretty impressive. Criner will contribute going forward, Streater already is as a UDFA, Burris starting, Bilukidi getting some rotation… thats not too bad a draft class from round 4 on…

    Go ahead, point out all the players drafted after 97 that are starting right now for other teams. Go ahead, Ill wait.

  • blackandsilverside

    Worshipers,

    Get it out of your head that DMAC is an elite back.

    In his career he has had 2 great games, both in the 2011 season: 1) Denver Broncos where he ran 150 yds; and 2) NY Jets where he ran 175 yds. Both teams at that time were in the cellar and had atrocious defenses a high school back could have run right through.

    Other than those two games he has been mediocre. DMAC has less yards gained on the ground than Michael Bush, both playing 4 seasons.

    If you don’t believe me just look at DMAC’s stats.

    I am not so sure that Knapp’s scheme holds DMAC back this year. I believe defenses are keying on him and he is not good enough to overcome that.

  • Just Fire Baby

    To be elite at ANYTHING, at any position in any sport, you have to have had at least one playoff moment, one time when the world was watching you and you excelled.

    Moments in October, and mid-November games in Jacksonville don’t count.

  • J Hill
  • inonewordraider

    so if we bring up/in a corner do you start Huff or Giordano at FS?

  • guest123

    post 30.

    By that logic then Barry Sanders was a pedestrian running back. Right?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    You mean players like Burris who was drafted after the 26 YO rookie? LOL
    Steelers have a healthy NT, so they don’t need Ta’amu. Who is our NT?
    Like I said, we had/ have a defense that needs a lot of help, and players in later rounds can help/ start on this defense.

  • J Hill

    The same players did well last year, you agree?

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    LT and LG played well last year, imo.

    C was decent prior to Satele geting injured.

    RG was terrible.

    RT, OK.

    That being said, Wiz, Briesel, and Smith are making way too many MENTAL mistakes. The equivalent of TK jumping offsides.

  • blackandsilverside

    If I were DMAC, and ran behind a ZBS line, always running to the left or right waiting for a hole to open, I would simply run the required direction behind the lineman, then reverse field and run the other way, and bolt through any hole.

    When the OC came onto me about the change-up mid-play I would simply tell him to pizz off.

    Actually, it’s very easy. The Raiders wouldn’t dump me, maybe trade me at the end of the season.

    If I went to another team if I were an elite back, that quality would soon shine.

  • DMAC

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    You don’t draft a backup OG when you need:
    1- CB
    2- DE
    3- NT
    4- LB

  • J Hill

    so if we bring up/in a corner do you start Huff or Giordano at FS?

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    Or cut Hanson?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Good morning DMAC.

  • J Hill

    Wassup DMac!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Thx J.

  • J Hill

    O, shouldn’t you be busy reading that link???

  • DMAC

    J Hill Says:
    October 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    so if we bring up/in a corner do you start Huff or Giordano at FS?

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    Or cut Hanson?
    ===========

    We need Spencer back.
    That will move Huff back to FS.
    Cut Hanson! Dude gets toasted and has trouble tackling.
    Move Pat Lee to cover the slot.

  • Just Win Baby

    Wait a minute. Lechler is 15th in Net punting yds and Oakland is third from last in the NFL in return yardage allowed? We should all piss on Al Davis’ grave for this.

  • DMAC

    Morning J Heezy/O Dog/ODB and Green Party memnbers!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    LOL J.

  • J Hill

    You don’t draft a backup OG when you need:

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    I doubt the plan was for him to be a backup for long.

    OL was CLEARLY a need pick. I expect Bergstrom to be starting sooner than later.

  • Just Fire Baby

    By that logic then Barry Sanders was a pedestrian running back. Right?

    ***********************

    Barry ran for 170 yards in a playoff game in 93-94, and ran for 187 yards in a playoff sealing victory that same season.

    And he was undoubtedly the best regular season rusher in all of football.

    Has Darren EVER been even the best regular season rusher, in his division?

  • DMAC

    Would of loved to see Barry run behind that line in Dallas.