Raiders eager for more takeaways
By Steve Corkran
Monday, October 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders are tied for last in the league in terms of turnovers on defense. Perhaps most glaring, the Raiders are one of only two teams without an interception this season.
Hence, there is what strong safety Tyvon Branch calls an added emphasis on getting that turned around. In a hurry.
The Raiders forced four fumbles, and recovered three, their first four games. Even so, that’s not the rate of return coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver want on their investment.
Never mind that the Raiders played against three veteran quarterbacks their first three games — Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger and Peyton Manning, Allen and the players said. It’s incumbent upon the Raiders to force the issue.
“We call them takeaways, which means that we control them,” Allen said. “It’s not like the offense gives us the ball. We go out and take it away from them. So, yeah, there’s things that we can do.”
Branch said it’s as simple as tackling better on plays in which the quarterbacks checks down the ball and thereby forcing longer passes in traffic.
“Once we start tackling better, they got to start making high-risk throws in order to accomplish what they want to accomplish,” Branch said. “So, football’s crazy. Once they start coming, they’re going to come in bunches.”
Turnovers come as a result of defense played at a fevered pitch, Allen said.
“We got to have 11 people flying around to the football, flying around like their hair’s on fire,” Allen said. “And that’s the way you play defensive football. It’s been that way since the beginning of time, and it won’t change.”
Free safety Michael Huff envisioned the Raiders defense being a top-five unit that imposed its will on opposing offenses. Part of playing that style of defense, naturally, would result in numerous turnovers.
The realization that the Raiders are without an interception through four games is something Huff has difficult grasping.
“I wouldn’t have believed it,” Huff said. “Even based off preseason, you could just see, it was a great defense when we play our defense. And for us not to have any picks and only a few sacks just boggles (the mind).”
– The bye week afforded Allen and his coaching staff added time to evaluate the roster and the first four regular-season games.
Allen had this to say about what he gleaned from the process:
“Obviously, there’s things that we can do better as a coaching staff to put our players in a little bit better position,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
“We’re all in this thing together and we’re continuing … This will be a constant thing, it is in the NFL. You never rest. You keep looking for ways to improve. Last week was a good week for us to kind of look at ourselves and what we’re doing and how we can do it a little bit better.
Allen said it was nice to be able to step away from the hustle and bustle of the season and see things from a fresh perspective.
In short, he said he learned some things about his team, as well as reinforced already formed opinions on some things.
“The season moves fast,” Allen said. “Sometimes you think you see something, and it’s not exactly the way you saw it. When you get a little bit of time to sit back and look at it, spend a little bit of time looking at it, it opens your eyes to a few different things. We looked at a lot of different areas from what we were doing well and what we have to improve on. We’ll move forward from there.”
Defensive end Lamarr Houston honed in on one aspect of his game during the bye week.
“As a D-line, we need to apply more pressure to the quarterback and we need to make more of an impact in the games,” Houston said. “That’s basically what I really was focusing on, because we’ve been pretty good in the run game, and we also need to improve on third downs, that’s a part of rushing the passer.”
– Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey has passed all his concussion-related tests, as mandated by the league, and been cleared for full contact, Allen said.
Heyward-Bey looked at full strength in practice today, running multiple routes at full speed and doing everything asked of the other wide receivers.
Therefore, it’s likely that he will make his return Sunday against the Falcons. He last played in a game Sept. 23, when he was knocked from the game with a helmet-to-helmet hit from Steelers safety Ryan Mundy.
– Linebacker Aaron Curry is eligible to come off the physically unable to perform list Oct. 16. Once he practices for the first time, a 21-day window begins for the Raiders to decide how to proceed.
Here’s what the rule states:
“At any time during that period, the club can restore the player to the active/inactive list. If the player is not restored to the active/inactive list on the day after the conclusion of the 21-day period, and the club elects to carry the player on reserve/PUP or reserve/non-football injury, the player shall not be permitted to play in any games and is not allowed to practice or participate in team or individual drills during the remainder of the season (including postseason).”
Rookie Miles Burris has filled in for Curry the first four games at weak-side linebacker. If Curry is healthy enough to be activated, Allen has to decide how best to use Curry.
Curry missed all of training camp and some of the offseason workouts because of sore knees. It’s a stretch to envision Curry getting into football shape in a short amount of time, but he certainly could reach that point during the 21-day window.
Curry declined an interview for the second time in recent weeks. He said he isn’t allowed to speak with the media as long as he’s on the physically unable to perform list.
Allen said he’s eager to see where Curry is at when he returns next week.
“He has made some progress,” Allen said. “It’s different when you’re doing your rehab work as opposed to when you’re actually out there playing football. It will be a great deal for us to get him out here, get him working some football, running around and doing some football movement and really getting back into the swing of what we’re doing defensively because it’s been a while since he’s gotten an opportunity to participate.”
Curry missed some of the offseason workouts and all of training camp.
– Allen said the Raiders did not work out any free agents last week. However, there’s the “potential” to do so this week.
He added that the starting lineup figures to look much as it did when the Raiders last played a game.
“I wouldn’t expect just a bunch of wholesale changes,” Allen said. “We’ve put a lot of time into the guys out there that we have on the field. We’re going to continue to evaluate that as we go through and whatever lineup changes we feel like are necessary to maybe give us a boost and help us maybe play a little bit better, we’ll make those changes.”
– Tight end Richard Gordon (hamstring), rigth offensive tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) and cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) are making progress toward a return to the field. However, it doesn’t sound likely that they will be back in time for the Falcons game.
Allen said Barnes and Gordon are “week to week.” As for Spencer, his right foot still is in a protective boot. Spencer and Barnes suffered their injuries against the Miami Dolphins on Sept. 16. Gordon got hurt in practice two days before the Broncos game the following week.
– Several players spoke about the anniversary of managing general partner Al Davis’ passing. Hers’s a sampling of what they said:
“We don’t really talk about it, but I can tell you there’s guys in here that were close to him, including myself, that you do kind of take a moment to yourself and just think about it and know you’re thankful for him and what he’s done and his family and the organization that he built from the ground up. And you’re just really appreciative of it.” — fullback Marcel Reece
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
“When you think about the Raiders, you think about Mr. Davis and what he meant, not only to this franchise, but to the NFL He’s an icon that surpassed, when you talk about leaving a legacy, he’ll always be remembered whether it’s the one-year or the 10-year, the century mark, decade mark, you’re always going to think about what it meant to put on the silver and black and just that mindset and mentality.” — defensive tackle Richard Seymour
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October 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Go Raiders!
October 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
October 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Thanks for thee update Cork!
October 8th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Grantland has an excellent article on the hated 49ers dynamic running attack, and how it leads to open bomb plays like this one:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/san-francisco-49ers/0ap2000000071798/Vernon-Davis-53-yard-catch
Goodness I pine for amazing coaching and the mismatches it creates.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Yo Homies
Just got inspired by my peE/borg smack down to write a sweet gangsta-inspired rap for my upcoming solo album, Wrecks N Effect
The album will tell my tale of the Beeech Dawg growin’ up gangsta-swizzle near Inglewood, tossin’ them gang signs, smacking ho’s and throwin’ block parties with mad fruit punch
This joint is called MAD PROPS TO DAT LAWG
Rollin’ down the street, Yo, I need new brake pads
Gotta find some hizzy to suck deez nads
I love sunny weather, what’s up with this fog?
Now get down and pray to the Mighty Beeeech Lawg
DROPPIN’ MAD TURDS, 2013
October 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Uh oh. “there is what strong safety Tyvon Branch calls an added emphasis on getting that (zero INTs) turned around. In a hurry.”
Next Sunday.
Double move, DB jumps route, TD Roddy White.
Double move, DB jumps route again, TD Julio Jones.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
So what do you guys think of the rumor that Greg Knapp was Reggie’s choice and that DA wanted Neal Brown (Texas Tech)?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
The other part of that rumor is that 3 of the defensive starters and 2 of the offensive starters don’t buy into what DA is selling.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Theghostronin79 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Matt Ryan’s first game against Raiders in 2008:
Atlanta 24
Raiders 0
That was his rookie year. He was throwing against Nnamdi and Routt
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I think it was Namdi and Hall wasn’t it? Hall was getting burnt 3rd degree all day?
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May have been Hall. But didn’t he get cut after 6 games or something like that?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Is there a link or something so you can share that story with us, Banana?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
So what do you guys think of the rumor that Greg Knapp was Reggie’s choice and that DA wanted Neal Brown (Texas Tech)?
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I don’t believe it for a second. Reggie was very plain about the new coach being able to “Hire any assistant he wants.”
October 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Is there a link or something so you can share that story with us, Banana?
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Google:
Rod Woodson Neal Brown
October 8th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
peE, hit up your master the Beeech Diggity Dawg when you want to play with man’s money
I wipe my weiner, nads and butt crack every AM with three $100 bills, then I use two more to wipe my nads again just to be safe
Good hygiene in the house, y’all
But until Walmart gives you a promotion, I’ll put $50 that the Defenders to spank the Warriors this season
THE NBDL AIN’T YO GRANDMA’S WNBA
October 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Huff is delusional.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
So what do you guys think of the rumor that Greg Knapp was Reggie’s choice and that DA wanted Neal Brown (Texas Tech)?
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I don’t believe it for a second. Reggie was very plain about the new coach being able to “Hire any assistant he wants.”
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Yeah, Rod Woodson is the source of this, who was released, so take it with a grain of salt.
Spread offense with Palmer? Not so sure…
October 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
The other part of that rumor is that 3 of the defensive starters and 2 of the offensive starters don’t buy into what DA is selling.
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Where did you hear this at?…Link?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Is there a link or something so you can share that story with us, Banana?
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Google:
Rod Woodson Neal Brown
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That article sounds like complete bull sh*t.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
raiderfans(d0t)net/forum/oakland-raiders-rumor-mill/192649-just-had-lunch-rod-woodson-dana-stubblefield-they-had-lot-say.html
The guy who wrote the article was banned from the site. He probably made the whole story up.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Woodson may be trying to stir the pot. Wouldn’t doubt if the only truth is him and Reggie having a disagreement on Routt
October 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Prediction time, brought to you by reality – Keeping it real through loss after loss.
Falcons 33
Raiders 13
October 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Everything in that article sounds like just what the Reggie haters want to hear. It’s too good to be true for them.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Woodson may be trying to stir the pot. Wouldn’t doubt if the only truth is him and Reggie having a disagreement on Routt
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Or maybe he’s just mad that Reggie and DA didn’t retain him…
October 8th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Did anyone catch Atari Bigbys introduction last night? he was blown the fk out, lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFVqozbwH70
October 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I’m tired of hearing Dennis Allen use the word “better” and I am tired of the hollow PR talk with Huff and Seymour. The D sucks elephant balls.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Woodson may be trying to stir the pot. Wouldn’t doubt if the only truth is him and Reggie having a disagreement on Routt
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Or maybe he’s just mad that Reggie and DA didn’t retain him…
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I think that’s very likely part of it, yes. And who better to unleash this garbage than some random intern/fan? He can just deny it.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Classic peE & Sam Borg
A real gangsta shows up and they start a stutterin’
Gots to say, Brahs, I’m used to it. Whenever I’d pop into a Burger King back in the day they’d be all like “Extra salt on them onion rings, Mr. Beeeech Dawg Sir?”
BTW, just got my 3rd bowl of linguine con marinara and the DUECES ARE WILD
Meaning, I’m going to drop some serious turd bombs in about 30 seconds
F TO THE I TO THE DOUBLE Z TO THE L TO THE E
October 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Some random blog contributor had lunch with Woodson and Stubblefield?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Some random blog contributor had lunch with Woodson and Stubblefield?
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Not impossible, but not exactly the likeliest of scenarios either…
October 8th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Some random blog contributor had lunch with Woodson and Stubblefield?
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Not impossible, but not exactly the likeliest of scenarios either…
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I guess if KoolKell has a Corvette and is vacationing in Switzerland anything is possible.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
2sense Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The rebuilding process is really very simple and it’s the same formula used by perennial contenders like GB…who have very good since 1994. GB during that time (94-present) have rebuilt their roster MANY times over. They had a year i recall where they went 8-8 with Ray Rhodes. They fired him and proceeded to g 9-7, THEN 12-4 the very next season. Did they “blow it up”?
They had another year where they went 4-12 in 2005 and what happened the next yr.? 8-8, THEN 13-3 the next. In 2008 GB goes 6-10, the next yr.? 11-5.
GOOD PERSONNEL in the front office gets things done.
The difference in GB is the fans, media, players etc, EXPECT a winner, and the “powers that be” deliver. They never tell their fans to be “patient” for a few yrs.
I reference GB in this instance cuz Reggie came from there. I don’t know how much he had to do with everything but he never experienced anything more than ONE losing season in a row, and they NEVER blew anything up.
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Haha you’re pretty funny dude. What team did he blow up? If you have to say Reggie “blew the team up” because he got rid of Routt, wimbley, satele, bush, johnson, murphy, barksdale and campbell then it’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about. Those guys could walk out the door mid season in any other franchise and nobody would even know. Hubert almost didn’t even get hired anywhere else. And as I stated earlier, if you or any of you think Reggie was gonna turn this thing around or even build off of last years success with last years roster, 7 million dollars, and the last pick of the 3rd round then you need to start smokin somethin.
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Great. Another internet “know it all” talking down to anybody that dares make an opinion that differs from his.
I didn’t say Reggie “blew it up” in fact I was making the point that I don’t believe he should.
As far as believing that Reggie was could have built off of last yrs. 8-8…yes I do believe that he could have. It’s an opinion that is shared by MANY national and local media who cover football and the Raiders
No, not EVERYONE believes he could have built off of last yr. so there are those who share your view, especially since he did NOT build off it.
Is it ridiculous to think someone could take an 8-8 team and improve on it?
You mention that Routt, Wimbley, etc. would not even be noticed by other teams. So which is it? Seems 8-8 with a bunch of no name losers is a pretty good accomplishment and would stand to reason that ANY GM would be able to acquire a few players that would be better than these ‘no names’ you say wouldn’t be noticed, and thusly improve an 8-8 team built on “no name’ losers would be better with almost ANYONE added to the roster.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Not impossible, but not exactly the likeliest of scenarios either…
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I guess if KoolKell has a Corvette and is vacationing in Switzerland anything is possible.
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That is really kind of funny ROFLMAO
October 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Yo ALEX7
Get the F out of here with the niner bullsh….
October 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
That story about the blogger have lunch with Woodson has to be total BS
October 8th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Realtruraider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
That story about the blogger have lunch with Woodson has to be total BS
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The story makes Reggie sound just like Al Davis, a control freak who gives guys scholarships.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
Huff is a stand up guy, with regard to the media.
To bad he can’t make plays “that are out there”.
I’m really not interested in hearing from a mouthpiece that has zero positive impact on the outcome of games.
Dick Seymour, you listening?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Here is the post from the Blogger on the Woodson/Stubblefield interview:
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you read”
For the record, I too was once banned from Raiderfans….Net for doing nothing more than speaking the truth about the direction I felt/thought this organization was headed….but this was a few years ago…just sayin’
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From
NationsGr8est on Raiderfans….NET
“I just had lunch with Rod Woodson and Dana Stubblefield and asked them what they thought about us and the direction of the team. First off I was very surprised with everything they said and have taken some of the anger I have for Dennis Allen off of him, not all but some. Let me start by saying they are NOT fans of Reggie McKenzie.
1st off, I asked them what they thought about Greg Knapp and the offense Dennis Allen chose. I was told Greg Knapp was not Dennis Allens choice, Neal Brown was Dennis Allen’s (OC from Texas Tech’s spread offense) choice but Reggie wanted Greg Knapp so he could run the system Reggie wanted, yep folks Reggie lied to us about a coach picking his own staff. Rod told me that Dennis wanted us to run a speed spread offense because of who we had on offense but Reggie wanted a conservative WCO zone scheme. And had connections and a friendship with Greg Knapp. I have been quick to blame DA for this change of offensive scheme but now I blame Reggie.
2nd, we began talking about the cap and money issues and the moves this offseason. And folks I have the truth, Rod who was here until the day after Reggie took office said he and Reggie had a long talk about the defense the day he was hired. I was told that Reggie from day 1 was not interested in restructing Stanford Routt even if Routt agreed (and was willing). Rod said him and Reggie got into it about restructuring routt and holding off a year until they had better corners in here and Reggie responded by relieving him of his duties the next day. WOW I did not see that coming. Then I asked well what about Kam Wimbley, contrary to reports that Kam was not willing to restructure, I was told by both of them that Kam had agreed to restructure after putting up a fuss in January, and once he had agreed, Reggie cut him anyway (making a statement). I don’t agree with Reggie’s tactics just to make a statement that has been detrimental to the team.
3rd, I asked what do they see as the future of this team? Can Reggie get the job done? Dana said “even a blind squirrel finds a nut”, the odds arent good but it is possible. But even more disturbing, both of them said that Reggie will not allow change to happen unless HE wants it. That no matter how bad things get and how wrong Reggie is, he will stay stubborn to his way. All of us calling for Knapp’s head, looks like we will have to endure this sh*t for a long time. So much for Reggies promise of “I believe coaches should pick their staff” yeah… They also said, Reggie is going to fight for his draft picks, even the busts, so no matter what good players become free agents, not to even pay attention because they wont be Raiders.
After having lunch with them, I am not as angry at Dennis Allen, though they both agreed they question his motivational skills and if the team is even buying in because according to them (3 defensive starters, and 2 offensive starters who they wouldnt name) had texted them that they do not buy into what DA is selling. But what I do feel now is even more anger towards Reggie and the feeling that we have been lied to by Reggie and that Reggie may be the wrong guy. Now I am sure the Mac Mania Lovers will say oh these guys are lying or arent affiliated blah blah blah. I trust them more than just some couch coach or gm. They live in the football world. “
October 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Albert/Klas/MR
I just don’t believe Woodson would know or share this info with some random fan.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
i believe it all of reggies moves show a stubborn, egotistical, nepotistic loser…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
And yes Reggie will give scholarships ( some would say he already does ) most GMs want there FA pickups and draft picks to have every chance to workout, they will give there guys a longer leash, its just the way it is
October 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Regarding Wimbley and Routt in the above scenario, restructure is not a pay cut.
I don’t believe Reggie was gonna pay these Guys that type of money.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Oh my fellas,
The little Beeech thang is acting up after a fresh chin-check to his blog persona.
Sniff,
You should relieve the pressure of those chin-nuts on your dome while trying to gaze through the pubes of you man-friend, to see the fresh meat at Venice beach.
WORD UP TO THE NERD SCRUB
October 8th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
That post from raiderfans should be taken as truthfully as that guy down at the mall who claims to have flown in a UFO with Elvis.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
For all you non-believers,
The “lip” hired his brother who was teaching home economics to pregnant teens at the Chaz clinic.
I would not put anything past that fool.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
The Lip will never win here. Print that.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
That post from raiderfans should be taken as truthfully as that guy down at the mall who claims to have flown in a UFO with Elvis.
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I knew it! Elvis IS alive! lol
I’ve never taken down the “Velvet Elvis” above my fireplace.
In hope that He would one day return. lol
October 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
raider e that is a fact…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The “lip” hired his brother who was teaching home economics to pregnant teens at the Chaz clinic.
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His brother is a scout. Half the guys on this blog could be a scout. It’s not like he gave him an important job.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
For all you non-believers,
The “lip” hired his brother who was teaching home economics to pregnant teens at the Chaz clinic.
I would not put anything past that fool.
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OMG! Reggie hired a former NFL player (and HS football coach) as a scout. Oh noes! The world is ending!
October 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
His brother is a bum and in no way qualified to be even a boy scout period.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
His brother is a bum and in no way qualified to be even a boy scout period.
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You know nothing.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
His brother is a bum and in no way qualified to be even a boy scout period.
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Quiz Time (No Google): What exactly has Raleigh McKenzie done, football-wise?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The other part of that rumor is that 3 of the defensive starters and 2 of the offensive starters don’t buy into what DA is selling.
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I would believe it, I know DMAC didnt seem to happy talking to Marcel Reece on the sideline MIAMI. Also Tyvon branch tweeted something on saturday about DMAC talking to him telling him some of the realest ish he has ever heard.
Probaly talking about playing out their contracts and going to a better team. U cant tell me DMAC is happy to be stuck back with NAP. These players are not dumb. They are just towing the company line because they are getting paid. They really dgaf
October 8th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
he was a hated redskin….
October 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
The whole point is that you dont hire your family. It is in no way seen as appropriate to do something that stupid.
Did Rex hire Rob? Or how about Buddy, did he have rex and rob scouting for the Bears or Eagles?
Did John Harbaugh hire Jim?
The answer is no, and all those guys are actually qualified.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
His brother is a bum and in no way qualified to be even a boy scout period.
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Quiz Time (No Google): What exactly has Raleigh McKenzie done, football-wise?
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NADA
October 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
raider e spittin more truth….
October 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Raleigh played for 16 years in the NFL.. no google
October 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Or how about Buddy, did he have rex and rob scouting for the Bears or Eagles?
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I believe both were assistant coaches with the Cardinals when Buddy was the HC there. Next?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Raleigh played for 16 years in the NFL.. no google
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Exactly. Yet some geniuses on this board believe that doesn’t qualify him to be a scout.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Duck and Bigelow,
Follow blind mice. Just follow Baby….
October 8th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
it doesnt both reggie and releigh played in a different era…they wouldnt know speed if it blew past them…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
We can also add Marty Schottenheimer having Kurt on his staff, Mike Shanahan having Kyle on HIS staff, Don and David Shula with the early 90s Bengals, Jim Mora and his son, and you get the idea…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9AHRfVD1fk
October 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Reggie is thw worst GM in football. We will pick this convo back up in the offseason 2014 Duck and Bigelow. I will let you eat your crow then. Be patient.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Duck and Bigelow,
Follow blind mice. Just follow Baby….
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Follow when appropriate, agitate when it isn’t.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
The whole point is that you dont hire your family. It is in no way seen as appropriate to do something that stupid.
Did Rex hire Rob? Or how about Buddy, did he have rex and rob scouting for the Bears or Eagles?
Did John Harbaugh hire Jim?
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Both Rex and Rob Ryan were assistant coaches under their dad Buddy you big dummy.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Reggie is the worst GM in football.
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No, that would be Al in the last decade of his life. The man was a legend, but he seriously lost it at the end.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
matt millen had experience in the nfl…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Raleigh played for 16 years in the NFL.. no google
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Exactly. Yet some geniuses on this board believe that doesn’t qualify him to be a scout.
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If Zach Crocket can be a scout, Raleigh can.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
We can also add Marty Schottenheimer having Kurt on his staff, Mike Shanahan having Kyle on HIS staff, Don and David Shula with the early 90s Bengals, Jim Mora and his son, and you get the idea…
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And where are they all now? With the exception of Don Shula, none of them won anything.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Raleigh McKenzie can just as easily tell who can or can’t play if Calvin Branch, and Mickey Marvin can.
Guys that played the game and managed to stick around for 16 years probably have a better idea than most.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Raider E is just another dumb ass like Oakofshow.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
or like klas
October 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
“The season moves fast and sometimes you think you see something and it’s not exactly the way you saw it. When you get a little bit of time to sit back and look at it and spend a bit of time looking at it, it opens your eyes to a few different things.”
-Dennis Allen-
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Really Coach?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
matt millen had experience in the nfl…
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So your argument is no ex-NFL players can ever be GMs?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
that story sounds like bullshh….. where wxactly did this meeting took place? how did he get them to agree to sit and talk off the record? who told him AD wanted the other guy form texas and how would they know that I doubt that AD went out and told either of those guys who he wanted. Some redcorded audio or video would make this fake story more credible. he selling woof tickets
October 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
The whole point is that you dont hire your family. It is in no way seen as appropriate to do something that stupid.
Did Rex hire Rob? Or how about Buddy, did he have rex and rob scouting for the Bears or Eagles?
Did John Harbaugh hire Jim?
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Both Rex and Rob Ryan were assistant coaches under their dad Buddy you big dummy.
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They were waterboys, and quit with the namecalling ok Bigelow. It makes you look insecure.
Save that nonsense for that Beeech guy.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Really Coach?
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lol
October 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
opens your eyes like uhmm this zbs is all that…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Like I said we can resume this talk right after the pressure when we fire the Lip.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
just pointing out that your argument goes both ways…look, none of reggies moved have improved the team…be honest.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
They were waterboys
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Rob was the defensive backs coach, and Rex was the assistant DL coach, both of which are considerably higher on the organizational food chain than a scout.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Reggie reminds me of Ozzie Newsome
Got to give him some trips around the sun no matter what
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
The Raiders are tied for last in the league in terms of turnovers on defense. Perhaps most glaring, the Raiders are one of only two teams without an interception this season.
Hence, there is what strong safety Tyvon Branch calls an added emphasis on getting that turned around. In a hurry.
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There’s a reason they have no int’s. It’s called pass rush.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
just pointing out that your argument goes both ways…look, none of reggies moved have improved the team…be honest.
_____________________________
Pros: Wheeler and Burris…
As far as listing his mistakes….how much time do you have?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Raider E Says:
Shnarat hired his son. does that count?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Duck,
To be continued, when The Lip falls on his face. He is an eighth of the way there already. 28 more regular season games and he is gone.
CAN’T WAIT.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
“Reggie’s not going to be polarizing.
He’ll be able to blend the people that
are there, and he’ll take charge when
he has to take charge. You don’t have
to rule with an iron fist. You build a
consensus, listen to people, and then
make the tough decision. Reggie can
do all those things.”
–Matt Millen, former Raiders linebacker and teammate
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He’s polarizing in here only because there are so many morons that frequent this blog.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
or corners playing twenty yards off…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
just pointing out that your argument goes both ways…look, none of reggies moved have improved the team…be honest.
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Au contraire. We got a good serviceable back in exchange for Bruce Campbell (who can’t even get on the field in Carolina), a draft pick for Louis Murphy (who’s currently averaging less than 10 yards per game — not per catch, but PER GAME), and two good young wideouts in Criner and Streater. In addition, Wheeler is an improvement over Kam Wimbley, and lord only knows how much worse our D would be with Stanford “Human Penalty Machine” Routt at corner.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
IT takes about 3 years for a coach or gm to be properly evaluated. so i heard
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Duck,
To be continued, when The Lip falls on his face. He is an eighth of the way there already. 28 more regular season games and he is gone.
CAN’T WAIT.
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In 28 more games, we’ll be coming off of a .500 or better season and be poised for big things.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
wheeler is a good pickup, burris debateable…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
listen to dana stubblefield, he knows because he used to play. if rod woodson really said that sounds like a teenage drama queen mad because her crush liked another girl better
October 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Raiders eager for more takeaways
…………………………
Really? Win a damn game.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
BTW, Rob and Rex still can’t coach.
What are their records again.
Tell me how many of these sons and brothers excelled in the NFL.
I’ll wait.
That was the point.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
The Raiders are tied for last in the league in terms of turnovers on defense
…………………..
And I thought Chucky B had to go.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
“No one can replace Al Davis. But as
far as evaluating talent and getting
the Raiders back to where they were,
Reggie will do a good job.
“He is an exceptional evaluator of
talent. Just has a great skill for it, especially for guys already in the NFL
who might be flying under the radar. He was my right-hand man for
all those years, a big reason why the
Packers were good all those years.
“He just has a real gift, very rare,
and I think it’s going to be special
for Raiders fans to see that. I would
think, knowing what his approach is
going to be and how important it is
to get quality football players, he will
do that there.”
–Longtime Raiders executive and
former Packers General Manager
Ron Wolf
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RaiderDuck Says
Stanford “Human Penalty Machine” Routt at corner.
He got one holding call yesterday and it was a killer flag. meaning that it was third down and gave them a first. dont miss that dud at all
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Duck,
To be continued, when The Lip falls on his face. He is an eighth of the way there already. 28 more regular season games and he is gone.
CAN’T WAIT.
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In 28 more games, we’ll be coming off of a .500 or better season and be poised for big things.
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Dude, you are delusional…get on the phone and sell some tickets….stop trying to sway opinion on here…you are counterproductive?
Reggie will be lucky to be around next season…
He though replacing the AL DAVIS was going to be easy….
I guess he got that one wrong too?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Duck,
To be continued, when The Lip falls on his face. He is an eighth of the way there already. 28 more regular season games and he is gone.
CAN’T WAIT.
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In 28 more games, we’ll be coming off of a .500 or better season and be poised for big things.
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I really truly hope so Duck. I hope that I am wrong, but I am not buying into the lip.
Don’t like him at all.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I’m amused that some are calling for heads after 4 weeks of the regular season.
I don’t like watching loses, and I don’t like our lack of a running game, and I don’t like our crappy D.
So the answer is to blow it all up after 40 days?
LOL
October 8th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
We call them takeaways, which means that we control them,” Allen said.
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So in other words, lets be PC, you capitalized on another teams turnoever. Brilliant.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
really you think routt could be worse than whats out there now? cmon you gotta be smarter than that…just lookup our pass defense and compare to any year ever….goodson=1 play, criner and streater=catch and down…(with krappys o, short of the sticks)…sorry but wheeler is the only pickup worthwhile…
October 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Also, that article says that Reggie and Knapp were friends. Didn’t Allen work with Knapp in Atlanta? It makes no sense that Reggie would force Knapp on Allen.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I’m amused that some are calling for heads after 4 weeks of the regular season.
I don’t like watching loses, and I don’t like our lack of a running game, and I don’t like our crappy D.
So the answer is to blow it all up after 40 days?
LOL
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Not at all…but be honest about how and why we got to where we ARE….
We cannot even do that….
How can you not see this?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I’m amused that some are calling for heads after 4 weeks of the regular season.
I don’t like watching loses, and I don’t like our lack of a running game, and I don’t like our crappy D.
So the answer is to blow it all up after 40 days?
………………………
They’ve (reggie and allen and co.) already blown it up. We want it back.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I’m amused that some are calling for heads after 4 weeks of the regular season.
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There’s a word for that as well: they are called idiots.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
17-34 Falcons
We never seem to play good heading East!!
Games like this…I wish I had White and Julio on my Fantasy Football team!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Bartell and Spencer are an improvement over Routt and Johnson. Too bad they have been injured.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
not buying into the lip.
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as in big lip as in because he’s black? that’s some pretty racial stuff. let me guess your’e bald, fat, your wife cheats on you or has cheated on you, you like little boys, never good in school, drink too much, maybe beat your wife… sound familiar?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
In 28 more games, we’ll be coming off of a .500 or better season and be poised for big things.
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Dude, you are delusional…get on the phone and sell some tickets….stop trying to sway opinion on here…you are counterproductive?
Reggie will be lucky to be around next season…
He though replacing the AL DAVIS was going to be easy….
I guess he got that one wrong too
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I can only hope that Mark has the quick trigger-finger that Al had.
Get rid of The Lip.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Roley Poley, Raider E, and Oakofshow, how come neither of you ever posted here until you started hating on Reggie? I think you are all full of sh*t.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
da sounds intelligent….down south intelligence…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Raiders eager for more takeaways
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Raider Fans eager for more wins.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
“Sometimes you think you see something, and it’s not exactly the way you saw it.
……………………
You’ll get sharper, eventually.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
they havent seen the field in more than two years…theres a reason why they were available…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
heard a guy wearing a raider jersey blew his brains out shown on the news, hear about that? he really that mad about the zbs?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Roley Poley, Raider E, and Oakofshow, how come neither of you ever posted here until you started hating on Reggie? I think you are all full of sh*t.
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They’re probably all the same person…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Not at all…but be honest about how and why we got to where we ARE….
We cannot even do that….
How can you not see this?
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Linear thinking.
I SEE that the the Man that ran the organization for 50 years died.
From top to bottom the organization is rebuilding.
I’d prefer a 10-6 , 11-5 Season, but I’m willing to allow for a NEW way of doing things to play out.
I don’t like the Process, but I understand it.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
They’ve (reggie and allen and co.) already blown it up. We want it back.
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Back to what? 8-8?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
they havent seen the field in more than two years…theres a reason why they were available…
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Bartell and Spencer were both starters with their respective teams last season. What are you talking about?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Roley Poley, Raider E, and Oakofshow, how come neither of you ever posted here until you started hating on Reggie? I think you are all full of sh*t.
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I have posted in the past, just not very often. I feel really strongly that the lip was the absolute wrong man for the job.
I am beyond upset that all the talk of a new regime is actually worse than having Al in charge.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DLcI-Q5tpucw
October 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Roley Poley, Raider E, and Oakofshow, how come neither of you ever posted here until you started hating on Reggie? I think you are all full of sh*t.
………………………….
I don’t hate Reggie. I’ve never commented on anything about Reggie other than he needs to show some balls, like can knapp or something along that vein. I don’t think he’s doing a great job, but I don’t hate him. You’d have to be a real Raider fan to understand that.
Go back to being Klas. You were funnier at that.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
There’s a word for that as well: they are called idiots.
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lol….
Nah, frustrated.
I get it.
I’m frustrated, but understand that it’s a process.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Duck,
I will send you my address, phone number, and an autographed picture.
My name is Eric Castillo, only posted under Raider E. Now miss me with your troll conspiracies.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Roley Poley, Raider E, and Oakofshow, how come neither of you ever posted here until you started hating on Reggie? I think you are all full of sh*t.
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They’re probably all the same person…
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Thank you. I think he calls himself, Lil’ biachi.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Not at all…but be honest about how and why we got to where we ARE….
We cannot even do that….
How can you not see this?
———————————–
Linear thinking.
I SEE that the the Man that ran the organization for 50 years died.
From top to bottom the organization is rebuilding.
I’d prefer a 10-6 , 11-5 Season, but I’m willing to allow for a NEW way of doing things to play out.
I don’t like the Process, but I understand it.
_____________________________________________________
The organization should not be re building anything….
The mistakes that have been made thus far were told to Reggie and Company before they actually occurred…
Let things play out…..
Okay….we will do it your way my friend…..
Let’s watch it PLAY out….
October 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Not one damn word in the presser about the zbs/wco. That is the root of the problem.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Roley Poley, Raider E, and Oakofshow, how come neither of you ever posted here until you started hating on Reggie? I think you are all full of sh*t.
———————–
I have posted in the past, just not very often. I feel really strongly that the lip was the absolute wrong man for the job.
I am beyond upset that all the talk of a new regime is actually worse than having Al in charge.
———
Who would you have preferred? The new era can’t be any worse than what Al was giving us.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
There’s a word for that as well: they are called idiots.
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lol….
Nah, frustrated.
I get it.
I’m frustrated, but understand that it’s a process.
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Yeah, I’m extremely frustrated as well. One thing Allen said was week to week improvement. We have not seen that and as I held Jackson’s feet to the fire on his planks, I have to hold Allen to his.
One thing I will say about this regime versus the last one: if things are not working, these guys go out and find someone else to do the job. When you think of guys like Randy Moss or “Jivin’” Walker, it just infuriates me. Here, something ain’t getting done, they change it. Pass rush has been a HUGE problem. So, they got Carter. On an up note, Kam Wimbley has done basically nothing this year so that looks like a good decision.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Seymour,
Haven’t you been caught crooss-posting?
Its always our own treachery that we think someone else is capable of.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
“Suspicion haunts the guilty mind”
October 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
bartell played with a broken neck? spencer was a starter?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I hope those coaches found a big can of whoop-@$$ during the bye week…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Allen had this to say about what he gleaned from the process:
“Obviously, there’s things that we can do better as a coaching staff to put our players in a little bit better position,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
>>>>>>> Wow. Did he just place most of the blame on his players?
“A little bit better position”??? NO Allen, you coaches have a LOT of work to do to put players in better position, not a little. First step, fire that freakin’ bum you have as an OC.
This is not looking good. This could get even worse.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
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I believe him.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Allen had this to say about what he gleaned from the process:
“Obviously, there’s things that we can do better as a coaching staff to put our players in a little bit better position,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
>>>>>>> Wow. Did he just place most of the blame on his players?
“A little bit better position”??? NO Allen, you coaches have a LOT of work to do to put players in better position, not a little. First step, fire that freakin’ bum you have as an OC.
This is not looking good. This could get even worse.
———————–
Truth
October 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
“At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
________________
thought the exact same thing when i read it, hope he’s just not a wordsmith because if his ego is telling him he’s pretty much done what he can it’s on the players, yikes
October 8th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
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I believe him.
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Not the biggest Pryor fan, but this guy sure can talk. Hope his game comes around. He sounds like a true Raider.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
You dont play teams fairly even in the first half of games and then get blown out in the second half cause your doing your job as a coach.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The organization should not be re building anything….
The mistakes that have been made thus far were told to Reggie and Company before they actually occurred…
Let things play out…..
Okay….we will do it your way my friend…..
Let’s watch it PLAY out….
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Play out this Season, or beyond?
The Organization Lost….”The Organization”, when Al passed.
The top end IS being rebuilt.
Mark hired a GM on the advise of trusted individuals with deep ties to the FORMER organization in an effort to move forward.
Their choice was Reggie.
With respect to the on field product, so far, not so good.
So if by “play out” you mean this season, you and I will probably be disappointed.
Continuity in Ownership, Coaching, systems of Offense, Defense, and Special Teams, coupled with scouts attenuated to the above, can provide for long term success, and a chance at Winning a ring.
Just my opinion.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Seymour,
Haven’t you been caught crooss-posting?
Its always our own treachery that we think someone else is capable of.
==============================================
Actually, I am Raider Rob, Silver and Black 666, Debo, amongst others. Or so some idiots think…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
bartell played with a broken neck? spencer was a starter?
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Spencer started nine games last year, and Bartell started until he broke his neck. You were saying neither had played at all in two years, and that simply is not the case.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Very well said RaiderLen.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I just want to emphasize the fact that I do not cross-post, but if that is your thing, then so be it.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I would believe it, I know DMAC didnt seem to happy talking to Marcel Reece on the sideline MIAMI. Also Tyvon branch tweeted something on saturday about DMAC talking to him telling him some of the realest ish he has ever heard.
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I saw that too–What the hell WAS that all about??
October 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Very well said RaiderLen.
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Thanks E,
I need to take a nap now….lol
October 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
With respect to the on field product, so far, not so good.
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To me, this is the SAME product we have seen on the field the last 9+ years. Teams that fold in the second half, teams that follow up a solid victory with six straight losses, extremely poorly conditioned players, teams that get out played physically, I can on. Hard to blame Reggie Mac for the exact same things we have seen for 10 years after 4 weeks.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
The organization should not be re building anything….
The mistakes that have been made thus far were told to Reggie and Company before they actually occurred…
Let things play out…..
Okay….we will do it your way my friend…..
Let’s watch it PLAY out….
—————————————————
Play out this Season, or beyond?
The Organization Lost….”The Organization”, when Al passed.
The top end IS being rebuilt.
Mark hired a GM on the advise of trusted individuals with deep ties to the FORMER organization in an effort to move forward.
Their choice was Reggie.
With respect to the on field product, so far, not so good.
So if by “play out” you mean this season, you and I will probably be disappointed.
Continuity in Ownership, Coaching, systems of Offense, Defense, and Special Teams, coupled with scouts attenuated to the above, can provide for long term success, and a chance at Winning a ring.
Just my opinion.
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Continuity in Ownership, Coaching, systems of Offense, Defense, and Special Teams, coupled with scouts attenuated to the above, can ALSO provide LONGTERM FAILURE…..and NO CHANCE of WINNING a RING….
So far….what do you see?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
oh well that settles it, one cant stay on the field bartell last year and this year, spencer was benched….and isnt on the field again…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
we’ve been pretty good in the run game
-LaMarr Houston
***
Reggie Bush & Willis McGahee just laughed out loud
have the Chargers & Steelers been able to run the ball on ANYBODY ??
October 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
It was so easy to blame Al though wasn’t it? There are 25 new players on the team. I’m sorry, but this team got worse.
Reggie and DA are to blame.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
“We got to have 11 people flying around to the football, flying around like their hair’s on fire,” Allen said.
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To be fair, this would equate to skipping around like your chasing butterflies for McClain.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Oh well Guys,
I have ranted for over an hour now and need to get some vittles.
Thanks for the football related convo.
Above all else….
ONE NATION.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Branch said it’s as simple as tackling better on plays in which the quarterbacks checks down the ball and thereby forcing longer passes in traffic.
***
I could live without any interceptions if Tyvon Branch had better cover skills than a nose tackle!!
seriously, I doubt Tommy Kelly would get abused as much in space.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I thinks it’s evident we need some time to get better just wait a few years guys
October 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Would you be any more pleased if DMAC and Marcel were yucking it up on the sidelines after/during the Miami game?
They SHOULDA been pi$$ed off. That game $UCKED!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
“We got to have 11 people flying around to the football, flying around like their hair’s on fire,” Allen said.
***
Morilla,
I think Wheeler is the only guy of 11 doing this. trade that slug Seymour to Buffalo for Kirk Morrison!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
raider till i die Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I thinks it’s evident we need some time to get better just wait a few years guys
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We don’t have time….no one in this league has time….
We aren’t waiting for chit….
October 8th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Continuity in Ownership, Coaching, systems of Offense, Defense, and Special Teams, coupled with scouts attenuated to the above, can ALSO provide LONGTERM FAILURE…..and NO CHANCE of WINNING a RING….
So far….what do you see?
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Well after 40 days of on field product, I see a team without depth, and any resemblance of an impact player on Defense, along with a non existent running game, that if productive, could go a long way in setting the table for big plays…..and points.
Your point is well received however.
Maybe Reggie isn’t the Guy, and by extension the entire Coaching staff.
My position at this point is that it’s to early to know.
Again, I don’t like it, but the process has to be allowed to gain traction.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
“We got to have 11 people flying around to the football, flying around like their hair’s on fire,” Allen said.
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Morilla,
I think Wheeler is the only guy of 11 doing this. trade that slug Seymour to Buffalo for Kirk Morrison!
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Pretty much, I think Burris is coming on too. And maybe Gio the playmaker as well.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
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Attn: McKenzie, Allen & Knapp
couldn’t we use a spark on offense??
Activate him!!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Seymour,
Haven’t you been caught crooss-posting?
Its always our own treachery that we think someone else is capable of.
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Actually, I am Raider Rob, Silver and Black 666, Debo, amongst others. Or so some idiots think…
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I even heard it mentioned your ABP too. Who’da thunk…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I think Burris is coming on too
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yeah – he’s gonna be special next year
he’s learning as he goes right now. was one of those raw players that required development on draft day
he’s much closer now than he was before the Curry injury
October 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Allen had this to say about what he gleaned from the process:
“Obviously, there’s things that we can do better as a coaching staff to put our players in a little bit better position,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
>>>>>>> Wow. Did he just place most of the blame on his players?
“A little bit better position”??? NO Allen, you coaches have a LOT of work to do to put players in better position, not a little. First step, fire that freakin’ bum you have as an OC.
This is not looking good. This could get even worse.
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Word! Double Word!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Pryor > Newton
Cam = black Jeff George
who called it??
October 8th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I think the dudes from ‘The Wiggles’ would make a better coaching staff than what our players are being subjected to ..
October 8th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
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Attn: McKenzie, Allen & Knapp
couldn’t we use a spark on offense??
Activate him!!
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I guarantee they not only do not want to use him but they don’t know how to use him….
He is Mr. Davis last pick….safe to say they want nothing to do with him….
Reggie wants to do it him way cause HE wants the credit….safe to say all he is going to CREATE is BLAME!
They should have already installed a package similar to Capernick with the 9er’s…but that would require an OC who knew who to design a play without the use of the ZBS….we don’t have one of those…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
versus ATL?
King Darrius!!
I think he’s gonna blow the roof off
October 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Raider E Says:Its always our own treachery that we think someone else is capable of.backstageatapuppetshow Says: “Suspicion haunts the guilty mind”//////////////The faults one sees most clearly in others are often reflections of ones’ own.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
versus ATL?
King Darrius!!
I think he’s gonna blow the roof off
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Indeed, the King will reign supreme.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
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Thats akin to giving some a piece of crap buick thats held together with tie wire, smokes real bad and burns too much oil, has bald tires, a cracked windshield and the wipers dont work, front end steering is shot, radiator leaks, theres a pinging in the engine block, side door keeps flying open, mufflers held together with tie wire, and asking them to drive from SF to LA down the 101 in four hours. Aint gonna happen.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Raider E Says:Its always our own treachery that we think someone else is capable of.backstageatapuppetshow Says: “Suspicion haunts the guilty mind”//////////////The faults one sees most clearly in others are often reflections of ones’ own.
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DO you really want to go down this road with ME?
Safe to say YOU and YOUR FRIENDS are where you find YOURSELVES because YOU didn’t listen….
October 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
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Attn: McKenzie, Allen & Knapp
couldn’t we use a spark on offense??
Activate him!!
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What are you going to do with him? The guy he would replace has clearly not been the problem. The issue with the Raiders is their run game has not come along. Unless Pryor can somehow ignite that, I don’t see throwing him out there. Mike Goodson or Taiwan Jones on the other hand…
October 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
We don’t have time….no one in this league has time….
We aren’t waiting for chit….
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AL had no time….literally.
I attribute many of His moves to lack of REAL time.
If something is to be built for “The duration” it begins with continuity.
If you continue to re invent the wheel(changing coaches, and philosophy) you lose all efficiency in the football operations.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Where is Taiwan?
Just another example of this coaching staffs’ ineptitude.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
So this is the way Raiders Offense should be executing the way the texans just marched right down the field on the Jets
October 8th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
We don’t have time….no one in this league has time….
We aren’t waiting for chit….
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AL had no time….literally.
I attribute many of His moves to lack of REAL time.
If something is to be built for “The duration” it begins with continuity.
If you continue to re invent the wheel(changing coaches, and philosophy) you lose all efficiency in the football operations.
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Bullchit’….
Who is talking about reinventing the wheel…???
Right now we would settle for anything that moved in a positive direction….
So far, the only game we won and even looked remotely like a football team was the one where our QB called 75% of the plays….
What does that tell you?
October 8th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Where is Taiwan?
Just another example of this coaching staffs’ ineptitude.
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I wouldn’t call it ineptitude, but rather DA sending a message about Taiwan’s two Week 1 fumbles.
I will say that enough is enough. The point has been made, and we need playmakers. FREE TAIWAN (the running back, that is)!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Living in Spokane, I have had the opportunity to watch a handful of EWU games on the Red carpet. Taiwan is amazingly fast with a knack for the ZBS employed by the current regime and EWU.
What a waste these coaches are, they SUCK!!!!
October 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Roley Poley Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
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Thats akin to giving some a piece of crap buick thats held together with tie wire, smokes real bad and burns too much oil, has bald tires, a cracked windshield and the wipers dont work, front end steering is shot, radiator leaks, theres a pinging in the engine block, side door keeps flying open, mufflers held together with tie wire, and asking them to drive from SF to LA down the 101 in four hours. Aint gonna happen.
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LOL
Gotta have the horses, but the coaches have to maximize whatever potential is available to them.
Herein lies the Frustration about the Offense.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
He does put the ball on the floor sometimes, but he is lightning in a bottle.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Hey Reggie,
No hard feelings my friend….
Do you like country music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkAnOetp2Bs&feature=related
October 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
DA made a similar point when he benched TK during the Chargers game after Kelly’s two moronic drive-sustaining penalties.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
McFadden has been very ineffectual. He does not look good out there. Get Goodson and Jones out there and see if they can generate a spark. I know Goodson wants to be out there.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
TK is still starting, it’s a moot point.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
McFadden has been very ineffectual. He does not look good out there. Get Goodson and Jones out there and see if they can generate a spark. I know Goodson wants to be out there.
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I think part of the problem (and I do mean PART) is DMac’s trying to get fancy instead of just hitting the hole when he’s supposed to. Goodson is not as talented, but may be a better fit in this blocking scheme.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
How bout this one Reggie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4
October 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
They both fumble, Bush. I think DA is too scared to be running this show.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
“every hands a winner and every hands a loser”
-Kenny Rogers-
October 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Thats akin to giving some a piece of crap buick thats held together with tie wire, smokes real bad and burns too much oil, has bald tires, a cracked windshield and the wipers dont work, front end steering is shot, radiator leaks, theres a pinging in the engine block, side door keeps flying open, mufflers held together with tie wire, and asking them to drive from SF to LA down the 101 in four hours. Aint gonna happen.////////////////////////Did it in an Oldsmobile. OK, San Luis Obispo to Pasadena and back. And maybe not that fast. But I did it several times. College days and my squeeze was back home.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
DMAC is obviously ducking out of bounds and trying to stay healthy.
Most the time he has defenders all over him in the backfield because, as DA would have you believe, were just an inch away.
Not buying it.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
how this coach not use reece is beyond me..
October 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
They both fumble, Bush. I think DA is too scared to be running this show.
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I would agree. But you have to do something in the run game. McFadden just is not cutting it.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
calpoly purvis?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Thats akin to giving some a piece of crap buick thats held together with tie wire, smokes real bad and burns too much oil, has bald tires, a cracked windshield and the wipers dont work, front end steering is shot, radiator leaks, theres a pinging in the engine block, side door keeps flying open, mufflers held together with tie wire, and asking them to drive from SF to LA down the 101 in four hours. Aint gonna happen.////////////////////////Did it in an Oldsmobile. OK, San Luis Obispo to Pasadena and back. And maybe not that fast. But I did it several times. College days and my squeeze was back home.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqwsJeOunDk
October 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I wish I didn have to wait but unless we turn it around quick we new time
October 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Bullchit’….
Who is talking about reinventing the wheel…???
Right now we would settle for anything that moved in a positive direction….
So far, the only game we won and even looked remotely like a football team was the one where our QB called 75% of the plays….
What does that tell you?
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I’m referring to continuity…In Organizational structure, GM, Head coach, Coordinators, Scouts.
An Organizational philosophy.
We are experiencing a change in the philosophy.
Plain and simple.
For the long term….not this Season.
Again, if you’re pinning hope’s on this Season, and are judging the veracity of this collective group on it, I’d say that you might end up disappointed.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
His brother played almost 2 decades of NFL and has 2 Superbowl rings!
October 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
They both fumble, Bush. I think DA is too scared to be running this show.
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I would agree. But you have to do something in the run game. McFadden just is not cutting it.
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I agree whloe-heartedly. DMAC is a bruiser. He doesn’t navigate the line of scrimmage to find the whole.
He busts through quicker than any back in the league.
They are wasting the talent they have.
The writing is the wall. The lip is in charge now and he wants this to be Green Bay west.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
*hole
October 8th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
DO you really want to go down this road with ME?
Safe to say YOU and YOUR FRIENDS are where you find YOURSELVES because YOU didn’t listen….////////////////////////Did nothing but reiterate what you and Raider E ad said in yet a another different way. But let’s try one more pithy saying if your gonna get pissy. The guilty man flees when no man pursues.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
DO you really want to go down this road with ME?
Safe to say YOU and YOUR FRIENDS are where you find YOURSELVES because YOU didn’t listen….////////////////////////Did nothing but reiterate what you and Raider E ad said in yet a another different way. But let’s try one more pithy saying if your gonna get pissy. The guilty man flees when no man pursues
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Be nice lol
October 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Bullchit’….
Who is talking about reinventing the wheel…???
Right now we would settle for anything that moved in a positive direction….
So far, the only game we won and even looked remotely like a football team was the one where our QB called 75% of the plays….
What does that tell you?
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I’m referring to continuity…In Organizational structure, GM, Head coach, Coordinators, Scouts.
An Organizational philosophy.
We are experiencing a change in the philosophy.
Plain and simple.
For the long term….not this Season.
Again, if you’re pinning hope’s on this Season, and are judging the veracity of this collective group on it, I’d say that you might end up disappointed.
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You are right about one thing…..our disappointment…
As far as YOU and YOUR Philosophy goes….perhaps you should realize that WE are the RAIDERS….
We DO NOT do things the way the other guy does it…
We set the trends…we do not follow them…
Following the structure set forth by other NFL teams in this league will leave us always behind the bar….instead of setting it….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I’m skeptical about the supposed Woodson comments but wouldn’t rule out there being some truth behind them anyway.
I’m one of the few posters here that thought not retaining KW and SR was a mistake – but I also understand that cap restraints made this impractical.
Perhaps RM could have worked the cap better, I really don’t know. What I do know is that Wheeler has performed well as KW’s replacement, although I still believe KW’s ability to pressure the QB is missed. Bartell’s injury makes it impossible to know if he’d be able to hold down the Corner slot. SR was surely penalty prone and overpaid but better than what we’re trotting out there now.
The draft ? Not much to work with there and too early to grade. No reason to blast RM over that.
In those areas I exercise caution in being rash or unfairly judging RM…
However, I don’t think it’s unfair to blast Reggie for the Krapp hire or Tits hire.
Don’t KNOW or CARE whether Tits or RM is directly responsible for Krapp being the OC. Either way, RM could have VETOED that mistake.
Taking it one step further – I don’t like what I see from Tits. No sideline presence or fire. His quotes from his pressers ring hollow. Inspirational ? Motivator ? I just don’t see it, but honestly don’t know enough to say for sure.
Think the giving out bats stuff was lame.
Tits smiling with Fox after getting his butt whupped doesn’t sit well with me.
Extremely tired about hearing how the ZBS works very well elsewhere. Tits and Krapp aren’t elsewhere. They’re here in Oaktown and the ZBS ain’t working here.
I might be premature in this – but I think hiring Tits will turn out to be RM’s first and biggest mistake.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
As far as YOU and YOUR Philosophy goes….perhaps you should realize that WE are the RAIDERS….
We DO NOT do things the way the other guy does it…
We set the trends…we do not follow them…
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That’s comical. Raiders haven’t set any trends since the early 80’s. Raiders biggest problem the last 30 years is that they were too late to accept new trends.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
exactly backstage, these guys want to be mediocre….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
DO you really want to go down this road with ME?
Safe to say YOU and YOUR FRIENDS are where you find YOURSELVES because YOU didn’t listen….////////////////////////Did nothing but reiterate what you and Raider E ad said in yet a another different way. But let’s try one more pithy saying if your gonna get pissy. The guilty man flees when no man pursues
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Be nice lol
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Nice response
Who is fleeing? Cause I’m the only one who isn’t!
I’ll be around long after this regime and all the men who occupy their positions are gone.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
hopefully his last mistake…
October 8th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
As far as YOU and YOUR Philosophy goes….perhaps you should realize that WE are the RAIDERS….
We DO NOT do things the way the other guy does it…
We set the trends…we do not follow them…
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That’s comical. Raiders haven’t set any trends since the early 80’s. Raiders biggest problem the last 30 years is that they were too late to accept new trends.
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That may be true….but Mr. Davis still stuck with his philosophy til the very end…..and for that I give him my respect….
At least his mistakes were his mistakes..not some group of corporate thieves with no face…
We all make mistakes….every last one of us….just because some of Mr. Davis mistakes are known are you all judging him at some of his weakest points….
What class you have….to speak out against a man on the anniversary of his death!
October 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
three super bowl championships, went to two more, was cheated out if how many appearences? He is the raiders…
October 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
What class you have….to speak out against a man on the anniversary of his death!
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Al Davis may have died last year. His philosophy died out in the mid 80’s.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
You are right about one thing…..our disappointment…
As far as YOU and YOUR Philosophy goes….perhaps you should realize that WE are the RAIDERS….
We DO NOT do things the way the other guy does it…
We set the trends…we do not follow them…
Following the structure set forth by other NFL teams in this league will leave us always behind the bar….instead of setting it….
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LOL
My philosophy? lol
The bar that the Raider organization has set over the past 10 years, or DECADE, whichever you prefer, is quite low.
Don’t need to be a world class high hurdler, to improve on that mark.
I appreciate your passion, but if you think that some how WE will get back to business as usual…
You’ll remain disappointed.
Winning, with whatever “Philosophy” is all that matters.
Judge the organization on Wins and loses, not “Raider Mystic” points.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
DO you really want to go down this road with ME?
Safe to say YOU and YOUR FRIENDS are where you find YOURSELVES because YOU didn’t listen….////////////////////////Did nothing but reiterate what you and Raider E ad said in yet a another different way. But let’s try one more pithy saying if your gonna get pissy. The guilty man flees when no man pursues
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Be nice lol
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Nice response
Who is fleeing? Cause I’m the only one who isn’t!
I’ll be around long after this regime and all the men who occupy their positions are gone.
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Been repping thesse dudes since Van eagan and the Snake. Im not a fan. I am a Raider.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
The spirit of AL DAVIS lives….
and he would want his replacement held to the HIGHEST of STANDARDS…
You can bet your ass this is going to be the case….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
like the one we have so far with this “new” orginization?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
DO you really want to go down this road with ME?
Safe to say YOU and YOUR FRIENDS are where you find YOURSELVES because YOU didn’t listen….////////////////////////Did nothing but reiterate what you and Raider E ad said in yet a another different way. But let’s try one more pithy saying if your gonna get pissy. The guilty man flees when no man pursues
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Be nice lol
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Nice response
Who is fleeing? Cause I’m the only one who isn’t!
I’ll be around long after this regime and all the men who occupy their positions are gone.
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Been repping thesse dudes since Van eagan and the Snake. Im not a fan. I am a Raider.
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October 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
McFadden has been very ineffectual. He does not look good out there. Get Goodson and Jones out there and see if they can generate a spark. I know Goodson wants to be out there.
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Not McFaddens fault. He’s being force fed a system that does not fit his style. knapp trying to make robots outta individuals.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
As far as YOU and YOUR Philosophy goes….perhaps you should realize that WE are the RAIDERS….
We DO NOT do things the way the other guy does it…
We set the trends…we do not follow them…
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That’s comical. Raiders haven’t set any trends since the early 80’s. Raiders biggest problem the last 30 years is that they were too late to accept new trends.
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No Bigelow,
That is your problem, if you care to comprehend the text in the post? It says “RAIDERS DO IT OUR WAY,” or it has that nature to it.
I love the NATION, I would rather lose Al’s way then this sissy game I have been watching for 4 weeks.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says: calpoly purvis?//////////////////SLOP(San Luis Obispo Poly)
October 8th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
klas cant understand that, he only knows making up fake names and pretending he is a raider fan….still butthurt over their move to la
October 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
great school, had a blast there…
October 8th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
You are right about one thing…..our disappointment…
As far as YOU and YOUR Philosophy goes….perhaps you should realize that WE are the RAIDERS….
We DO NOT do things the way the other guy does it…
We set the trends…we do not follow them…
Following the structure set forth by other NFL teams in this league will leave us always behind the bar….instead of setting it….
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LOL
My philosophy? lol
The bar that the Raider organization has set over the past 10 years, or DECADE, whichever you prefer, is quite low.
Don’t need to be a world class high hurdler, to improve on that mark.
I appreciate your passion, but if you think that some how WE will get back to business as usual…
You’ll remain disappointed.
Winning, with whatever “Philosophy” is all that matters.
Judge the organization on Wins and loses, not “Raider Mystic” points.
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I judge the team and the Philosophy on what it means to be part of the Raiders….
We are the last guys to hold the flag….
The last of the NFL teams not controlled by CORPORATE THIEVES with an agenda…
Only a select few understand that this team represents much more than just a football team….
This team is DEFIANT to all things…..if only because someone has to be….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Roley Poley Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
McFadden has been very ineffectual. He does not look good out there. Get Goodson and Jones out there and see if they can generate a spark. I know Goodson wants to be out there.
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Not McFaddens fault. He’s being force fed a system that does not fit his style. knapp trying to make robots outta individuals.
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That’s exactly what I am saying. The ZBS is not just a proven offensive system, it also is designed so franchises don’t have to keep tons of money tied up in offensive line members and running backs. In other words, put Goodson or Jones or someone else in there.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
The spirit of AL DAVIS lives….
and he would want his replacement held to the HIGHEST of STANDARDS…
You can bet your ass this is going to be the case….
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OK.
I loved the “Raider Mystic”.
It was awesome when AL was in his prime, and we were indulged with a cast of misfit characters that won.
That was decades ago, I know because I’m old enough to have witnessed ALL of it.
The Spirit of AL is alive literally, but it will have no measurable effect on the NEW organization that has filled his void.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
People who diss on Al Davis don’t really know the Raiders. With Al, you accepted him because of his greatness, and when times were tough, you stood with him.
Some people who wanted Al to step down finally got their wish. A team trying to convert to vanilla. No matter what happens, the Raiders will never be the same without Al Davis. And thats a shame.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
That is your problem, if you care to comprehend the text in the post? It says “RAIDERS DO IT OUR WAY,” or it has that nature to it.
I love the NATION, I would rather lose Al’s way then this sissy game I have been watching for 4 weeks.
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I believed that when I was 13 years old.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
whyd you stop last year?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
dMAC doesn’t look good cuz his online sux and they are putting 8 guys in the box.
No one is afraid of Streater and Hagan.
Anyone that says its DMAC’s fault , is a moron.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
I don’t watch much of Foster but DMC looks more talented based on what I see so far.
DMC was running mad last year. But this crew we have here now can’t get it right.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
The spirit of AL DAVIS lives….
and he would want his replacement held to the HIGHEST of STANDARDS…
You can bet your ass this is going to be the case….
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OK.
I loved the “Raider Mystic”.
It was awesome when AL was in his prime, and we were indulged with a cast of misfit characters that won.
That was decades ago, I know because I’m old enough to have witnessed ALL of it.
The Spirit of AL is alive literally, but it will have no measurable effect on the NEW organization that has filled his void.
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Respectfully, I disagree.
In fact, it is HAVING a huge affect on the NEW organization….
Just ask them!
October 8th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Foster is literraly running through wide open lanes.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Al Davis WAS great…
In the 80’s
Until he traded Gruden
And he ran this team to the ground the last decade..
RIP and stay RIP…….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
did u jus see arian foster gush the jet defense so thats the way zone blocking works
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
This Texan offense is what the Raiders is supposed to be.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
We miss Satele, big time, and Little Wiz is better at guard…..
October 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
This Texan offense is what the Raiders is supposed to be.
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A copycat you mean? A parasite.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
To all Raider Brothers that identify with the Raiders because they were anti-establishment….
I get it.
I respect it, and enjoyed it.
Even though it meant that AL moved the Raiders to L.A.
Worst decision of His professional life.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Foster’s lanes are so damn wide open its crazy. And Gruden even said Texans are not running strictly zone stretch …Foster’s biggest run came off power gap I believe.
Get a freakin’ clue Knapp & DA. Hue ran power but he still mixed in zone. We were diverse. But now Knapp only has the mental capacity to bring 10 plays to game day.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
“Obviously, there’s things that we can do better as a coaching staff to put our players in a little bit better position,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, it comes down to players going out and executing and making the plays they get the opportunity to make.
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Nothing like coach double speak.
A little bit better position? How bout a much greater position that starts with Saunders being the OC. And if not, give Palmer the green light to no huddle the entire game. Is it a strange coincidence that our only win came with 75% no huddle, and our blow out game at denver where Palmer wasn’t allowed to no huddle?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Our Oline sucks at this ZBS, I think alot of that has to do with coaching. People like Cork sayin its because people are stacking the box are just makin excuses, Teams have ben stackin the box on us for years, trust me they are not doing it anymore than they have the last two years
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Our Oline get a blown up at the point of attack.
You can only blame the loss of Satele and the scheme.
These new guys screwed things up big time.
How much did Indy pay Satele to sign him?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
303Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
We miss Satele, big time, and Little Wiz is better at guard…..
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True. And you wouldn’t believe how many posters on this site wanted Satele cut over and over.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
We all witnessed something that will never be duplicated.
The Raiders, with a maverick owner who said so infamously,”JUST WIN BABY.”
Thats what Raider football is all about.
It died with AL, or so it seems?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
To all Raider Brothers that identify with the Raiders because they were anti-establishment….
I get it.
I respect it, and enjoyed it.
Even though it meant that AL moved the Raiders to L.A.
Worst decision of His professional life.
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I don’t care where they play…makes no difference to me….
Al DAVIS created the RAIDERS.
Best decision of HIS professional life.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
ajoakrader Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
did u jus see arian foster gush the jet defense so thats the way zone blocking works
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Arian Foster was undrafted.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
We all witnessed something that will never be duplicated.
The Raiders, with a maverick owner who said so infamously,”JUST WIN BABY.”
Thats what Raider football is all about.
It died with AL, or so it seems?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuI3QvGEMZY
October 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
This Texan offense is what the Raiders is supposed to be.
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A copycat you mean? A parasite.
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The entire NFL is a copycat.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Texanz showing how you run the ball, not only ZB, but power runs also..
October 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Get a freakin’ clue Knapp & DA. Hue ran power but he still mixed in zone. We were diverse. But now Knapp only has the mental capacity to bring 10 plays to game day.
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And if I’m not mistaken, knapp takes to long to get the plays into CP3, thus not allowing him to change it at the line. Does he do that on purpose? I don’t know.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
ajoakrader Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
did u jus see arian foster gush the jet defense so thats the way zone blocking works
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Yeah, they also use gap/power pulling etc, they mix it up, Gruden said it on Fosters first big run which I believe was PBS
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
303Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
We miss Satele, big time, and Little Wiz is better at guard…..
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True. And you wouldn’t believe how many posters on this site wanted Satele cut over and over.
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How much did Indy pay Satele? Dude was a warrior…….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
303Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Our Oline get a blown up at the point of attack.
You can only blame the loss of Satele and the scheme.
These new guys screwed things up big time.
How much did Indy pay Satele to sign him?
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The ZBS cares not for the point of attack. Its about a defender committing and helping him along to that same side.
Power gap blocking is about taking your man OUT.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
251
Exactly, hybrid Oline scheme is the way to go
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Play pryor? Reggie a failure? Thank god you all are not doctors. You’d all be handin out band aids for slit jugulars.
Play Pryor?!?
Why would you take away reps from Palmer? Why would you put in gimmick offensive packages when injuries at WR, TE, and OL are rampant and you are trying to teach the most basic aspects of the playbook to FA’s off the street and returning starters on the fly? There’s already problems with the most basic execution of plays. Don’t think adding complexity is a great idea.
Reggie a failure?
Like I posted earlier…No money, no draft picks, no foundation. (25 of the last draft picks picked in rounds 1-3 over the past 9 years-no pro bowlers-no above average performers except for McFadden and maybe Veldheer-many not even in NFL anymore) Its not like he inherited a solid foundation. It’s been a leaky ship for decades. Al’s been pluggin those leaks with corks which has lead to average or worse records for 25 plus years minus the Gruden years. Reggie maybe could have corked it and Oakland could have remained an 8-8/9-7 team and maybe made the playoffs in a weak division this year but at what cost? He could have duct taped it like Al did in the early part of the decade until the bottom fell out like it did in ‘03 or just pull the plug, regroup, save some money, acquire some talent over the next couple years, build a foundation and have the money to actually sign solid backups and role players instead of overpaying underacheivers, and be good for decades.
That may not be what happens. Reggie may turn out to be Matt Millen but you certainly can’t make that judgement on the first 4 games of the season after what he inherited.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
ajoakrader Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
did u jus see arian foster gush the jet defense so thats the way zone blocking works
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They are not running strict zone. They are primarily zone but mix in power gp. We were primarily power but mixed in zone. Knapp only knows zone stretch it seems like. I’m tired of seeing that sht being run to no avail. I’m tired of seeing that lateral throw to the RB to no avail. I’m tired of watch DMC get keyed on all damn game to no avail. I’m tired of witnessing the improper usage of talent. I’m tired of this clueless coaching staff (and GM if its really on him, which speculative evidence is now point to).
October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I don’t care where they play…makes no difference to me….
Al DAVIS created the RAIDERS.
Best decision of HIS professional life.
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Yep
He provided Me with great memories, along with the A’s of the early 70’s.
Great time to be a kid and a Sports fan in the Bay Area.
As Raider fans, we all want the same thing.
We just bring different perspectives to the table.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
ajoakrader Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
did u jus see arian foster gush the jet defense so thats the way zone blocking works
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Yeah, they also use gap/power pulling etc, they mix it up, Gruden said it on Fosters first big run which I believe was PBS
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That’s what I keep telling you guys: the ZBS is a mix of zone and power runs. Once again, 95% of the people on this board have no idea what they are saying when they criticize it.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
This Tebow/Sanchez back and forth stuff is a joke…..
October 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I bet Gruden would have taken the GM position.
I bet he would have loved to walk in Al’s footsteps.
I wish we had “Chucky” and not “The lip.”
October 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Show your balls Reggie. Make Saunders the OC. He understands player personel.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Knapp runs an almost exclusive ZBS though, he has always ben that way, he needs to change it up a bit
October 8th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
262
Havent seen too much variety from knapp, only that frigging lateral stretch play
October 8th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Sanchez sux……
October 8th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
ajoakrader Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
did u jus see arian foster gush the jet defense so thats the way zone blocking works
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Yeah, they also use gap/power pulling etc, they mix it up, Gruden said it on Fosters first big run which I believe was PBS
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That’s what I keep telling you guys: the ZBS is a mix of zone and power runs. Once again, 95% of the people on this board have no idea what they are saying when they criticize it.
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ZBS sucks. The test results are in. It will only get worst. The fester has begun to spread.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
265
Meant 260, for s bush
October 8th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I don’t care where they play…makes no difference to me….
Al DAVIS created the RAIDERS.
Best decision of HIS professional life.
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Yep
He provided Me with great memories, along with the A’s of the early 70’s.
Great time to be a kid and a Sports fan in the Bay Area.
As Raider fans, we all want the same thing.
We just bring different perspectives to the table.
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We even saw the Warriors take home the prize in 74-75.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
JJ Watt is a monster, when and where was he drafted?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
JT Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
262
Havent seen too much variety from knapp, only that frigging lateral stretch play
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Usually good for -2
October 8th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
This team was RIPE to get better after last season. A good OC and DC and we’d vault to the next level. Instead, we drove it into a ditch.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I wish we had “Chucky” and not “The lip.”
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That’s crazy talk. One guy has been a part of 2 World Championship winners and won 60 games the last five years while your guy has been out of the league after he ran two franchises straight into the ground. Including ours.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Realtruraider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
251
Exactly, hybrid Oline scheme is the way to go
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That’s what every team in the league (including us) runs. Notice how Brisiel or Carlisle pull occasionally? That means we’re running angle blocking. We do both. We just do zone more often than angle.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Texans run a new generation run game, hybrid zone/power, thats smaet coaching.
Knapp? Hes an old school bad coordinator
October 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
We just bring different perspectives to the table.
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I will have new perspective when I see a team that can play at a professional level.
These guys have been terrible. The only exception is Palmer and the recieving corp.
They have come to play.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I wish we had “Chucky” and not “The lip.”
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That’s crazy talk. One guy has been a part of 2 World Championship winners and won 60 games the last five years while your guy has been out of the league after he ran two franchises straight into the ground. Including ours.
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?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
303Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
JJ Watt is a monster, when and where was he drafted?
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Last years lst rounder out of Wisconsin
October 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
After he beat us in the Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team, Gruden was very mediocre afterwards. One double-digit-win season in six, IIRC.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Knapp sucks. Case closed.
If DA doesn’t make any changes – HE (& Reggie) are confirmed idiots and need to go. Period!
October 8th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
That’s crazy talk. One guy has been a part of 2 World Championship winners and won 60 games the last five years while your guy has been out of the league after he ran two franchises straight into the ground. Including ours.
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How exactly did John Gruden run the Raiders into the ground?
October 8th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I wish we had “Chucky” and not “The lip.”
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That’s crazy talk. One guy has been a part of 2 World Championship winners and won 60 games the last five years while your guy has been out of the league after he ran two franchises straight into the ground. Including ours.
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I am apologetic that you do not agree. I am incensed by this product that I am subjected to.
I guess I just like “Chuckys’” attitude better.
Its not a feeling born on empirical truth lol.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
How exactly did John Gruden run the Raiders into the ground?
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The EXACT same way he ran Tampon Bay into the ground. By replacing his players with over the hill veterans and developing no one. Name one player, ONE, that Gruden developed.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Raider E Says:Be nice lol//backstageatapuppetshow Says: Nice response
///////////OK, we’re good. On that point, at least.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Knapp sucks. Case closed.
If DA doesn’t make any changes – HE (& Reggie) are confirmed idiots and need to go. Period!
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believe that
October 8th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
How exactly did John Gruden run the Raiders into the ground?
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The EXACT same way he ran Tampon Bay into the ground. By replacing his players with over the hill veterans and developing no one. Name one player, ONE, that Gruden developed.
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Jerry Porter and Woodson. Those “over the hill” veterans got us to a Super Bowl.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
ALEX7 YOU WAY OFF!!!!!!!!!
RAIDERS 33 FALCONS 13!!!!
BIGGEST UPSET THIS WEEKEND, GO RAIDERSSSSSSSS
October 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Jerry Porter? Come on. Porter was terrible. Woodson was a star before he got here. Keep going….
October 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Jerry Porter and Woodson. Those “over the hill” veterans got us to a Super Bowl.
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Porter he developed (although he went to pot apart from Chucky).
Woodson didn’t really develop into the player he is until he hit Green Bay. He was good to very good for us. He’s been a a HoFer for the Packers.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Reggie is not a magician, he needs 2-3 years of some normal drafts before he can be evaluated.
Everyone that says he should be out after 4 games is a troll…
October 8th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Jerry Porter? Come on. Porter was terrible. Woodson was a star before he got here. Keep going….
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Porter was not terrible. He was an emerging star until his feud with Art Shell.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Sign for front row:
knapp apologists need not apply.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
How long did it take Houston to get this good through the draft?
3-4 years?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
“Reggie may turn out to be Matt Millen but you certainly can’t make that judgement on the first 4 games of the season after what he inherited.”
I can agree with this.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Porter never had a 1000 yard season. After he left the Raiders he played one year for Joke-sonville and was out of the league. Not much there really.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Unfortunately Gruden got traded before he was given enough time, but I guess that trade worked out good for Al, lol….
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
The only 2 we got in the draft during the Gruden Era were Lechler and Jano.
But they were Crazy Al’s picks right?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Firing anybody now would be the equivalent of pulling your car out of the Indy 500 because you started in 17th place and are now in 25th after 5 laps.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Everyone that says he should be out after 4 games is a troll…
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True dat.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Chaz having a big night.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
The only 2 we got in the draft during the Gruden Era were Lechler and Jano.
But they were Crazy Al’s picks right?
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Exactly. And I should have clarified and said “position” players.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Porter never had a 1000 yard season. After he left the Raiders he played one year for Joke-sonville and was out of the league. Not much there really.
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Gruden rode Porter hard and got results. After Gruden left, his lessons gradually faded away until Porter was nothing more than Terrell Owens without the production.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Chaz Schilens is sure looking good tonight.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
If Reggie and Allen were smart we don’t need 3-4 years. We were at the doorstep last year. Just needed a couple of damn tweaks. Fcking Period.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Chaz Schilens is sure looking good tonight.
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He’s always looked good when healthy. It’s the “when healthy” part that was his big stumbling block.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
“The season moves fast,” Allen said. “Sometimes you think you see something, and it’s not exactly the way you saw it. When you get a little bit of time to sit back and look at it, spend a little bit of time looking at it, it opens your eyes to a few different things. We looked at a lot of different areas from what we were doing well and what we have to improve on. We’ll move forward from there.”
TRANSLATION: I’m in over my head and don’t know how to fix this. However, I’m going to throw out as many vague, nonsensical statements mixed with cliches as I can while speaking in a solemn, professional tone and hope that people won’t catch on to the fact that I am nowhere near ready for this role.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
You build a great team through the draft and sign a few key free agents along the way, see the following:
texans
Packers
Giants
Pats
October 8th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Firing anybody now would be the equivalent of pulling your car out of the Indy 500 because you started in 17th place and are now in 25th after 5 laps.
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More like 25 to 30 laps, Duck, but i’m pickin’ up what your puttin’ down.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Al screwed up so many drafts, that led him to overpay free agents, I mean we can go on and on about the over paid free agents that Al signed the last 10 years…
Larry Brown
Javon Walker
Etc…..
October 8th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
HOLLA
just dropped a duece so big that it got up and stood tall and walked away. never had that happen before.
BUZZLE BIZZLE
October 8th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Wasn’t the Larry Brown signing closer to 20 years ago? Let it go.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
October 8th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
The only 2 we got in the draft during the Gruden Era were Lechler and Jano.
But they were Crazy Al’s picks right?
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Exactly. And I should have clarified and said
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Not a single one one Bush, but you knew that.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
However long it was, my point is Al was desperate and made more bad moves than good ones….
October 8th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
#306
Damn good post.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Al ruined the cap situation and left the team with no depth. That is why Raiders are struggling. It’s going to take a while to get it right.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Riley Poley Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
#306
Damn good post.
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I agree. Good stuff.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Now is the perfect time to trade DMac to the Packers for a first rounder.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Raiders eager for more takeaways The Raiders are tied for last in the league in terms of turnovers on defense. Perhaps most glaring, the Raiders are one of only two teams without an interception this season. Hence, there is what strong safety Tyvon Branch calls an added emphasis on … [...]
October 8th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
303Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
However long it was, my point is Al was desperate and made more bad moves than good ones….
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Of course he was, I mean, you seen the man at his pressers?
He was a shell of himself, and knew he was going down.
Al’s problem was not that he lost touch. He stopped being patient and letting the game come to him.
He desperately wanted one more Lombardi before he passed. He took chances. Those chances didn’t pay off’
You cannot fault a man for that.
May he always Rest In Peace. AMEN.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Trade Dmac for #1 and James Starks
October 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
306,Chris In NY, How you doing ,man? Im leaning youre way, but if DA grows into the job, lets give Him some time? What makes me angry, is the O didnt need fixing, so they switch to zbs, Why? answer, I dunno. You?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
All I know is this team was 8-8 the last two years with Al’s coach in place. This year we have a healthy DMac (so far) and Carson Palmer fully immersed in the system. I honestly expected 10-12 wins this year with Hue running the show. I’m not giving Reggie and DA a pass.
DA picked an offensive coordinator whose system does not fit the talent and Knapp is not a Dick Lebeau or elite coordinator who you build an offense around. And DA has not improved the defense one bit despite that being his background.
If we’re rebuilding, as some suggest, why did Reggie rebuild the secondary with nothing but older players? And he cuts young guys with potential like DVD, Chekwa, Murphy and Bruce Campbell. Why not play those guys? If we are indeed rebuilding, it’s actually more of an indictment of Reggie than if we are going for it and just stink. What’s the strategy, gents?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Even in my wildest dreams I cant see us beating Atlanta this Sunday.
Julio Jones, Roddy White, Tony G, that sounds horrible for us…..
October 8th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Thats exactly what i was trying to say,Chris.
The Lip is a cancer, with his my way approach.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Thats exactly what i was trying to say,Chris.
The Lip is a cancer, with his my way approach.
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What about Al’s ‘my way approach’?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Chris in NY:
I’m with you. I remember you and I were on. TE same page when we found put Hue left.
Even though most new GM’s never keep the previous coach, we could have easily kept the playbook and had Saunders calling plays.
It might jus come down to Reggie’s wanted “his” guy, and his guy wanted his own guy and so on.
Either way we are left with this crap we watch on Sundays.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Thats exactly what i was trying to say,Chris.
The Lip is a cancer, with his my way approach.
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What about Al’s ‘my way approach’?
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Al has alot of pull in these parts, Buddy.
Step Down….
October 8th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Honest question not intended to incite.
In “ya’alls” opinion, doesn’t a horrible season, such as the one it appears we are headed, hurt “the freakish, clownish spawn’s” efforts for a new stadium project in or around Oakland?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Thats exactly what i was trying to say,Chris.
The Lip is a cancer, with his my way approach.
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What about Al’s ‘my way approach’?
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If we ever find out Reggie has lip cancer you might feel pretty guilty.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Stadium????
All Oakland has to do is give the land rights to the Raiders. After that you get private investors in line to take part in an investment that is second to none in this economhy.
Ask Oakland WTF their collective problem is????
October 8th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
*economy
October 8th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Raider E Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Stadium????
All Oakland has to do is give the land rights to the Raiders. After that you get private investors in line to take part in an investment that is second to none in this economhy.
Ask Oakland WTF their collective problem is????
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Oakland’s alleged problem is its economic distress which is now reportedly in its 17th straight year, spanning three presidential administrations (soon to be four if 0bama doesn’t improve his debating), with no end in sight.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
330,
Yes. I guess we could ask Jerry Jones how valuable a new stadium can be. Dallas is most valuable franchise in the league at 2.1 billion.
So if they don’t grant the land rights to the Raiders…then what?
October 8th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
330,
Yes. I guess we could ask Jerry Jones how valuable a new stadium can be. Dallas is most valuable franchise in the league at 2.1 billion.
So if they don’t grant the land rights to the Raiders…then what?
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We see who offers the better deal: AEG or Ed Roski. Then we go.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The “lip” hired his brother who was teaching home economics to pregnant teens at the Chaz clinic.
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His brother is a scout. Half the guys on this blog could be a scout. It’s not like he gave him an important job.
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The “lip” hired his brother who was teaching home economics to pregnant teens at the Chaz clinic.
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His brother is a scout. Half the guys on this blog could be a scout. It’s not like he gave him an important job.
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But he fired well respected people that knew what they were doing first.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
They just need to give the Raiders the right to build a football-only stadium on the coliseum site.
They are trying to waggle politically.
Politicians suck.
I’m very sure Mark has a ton of investors ready to build his stadium.
It will probably named “Allen Davis Stadium”
I would actually like that thought to come true
Call me “romantic,” lol.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
303Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Chris in NY:
I’m with you. I remember you and I were on. TE same page when we found put Hue left.
Even though most new GM’s never keep the previous coach, we could have easily kept the playbook and had Saunders calling plays.
It might jus come down to Reggie’s wanted “his” guy, and his guy wanted his own guy and so on.
Either way we are left with this crap we watch on Sundays.
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I’m pissed because it doesn’t have to move waaaay backwards to move forward. If the pieces were so crap last year than we had incredible coaches. If the pieces were good, we shouldn’t have gotten rid of them.
My viewpoint always is to look at what’s doing well and don’t change everything on that. If you can do things to improve it fine.
But, the offense was doing well, and we trashed the whole system, game plan, usage of weapons and try to fit square pegs into round holes.
Defense – great, blow it up after last year. bring in everybody new with a whole new scheme. It wasn’t working so I’m not against trying something new.
Offense – top 10 offense, even with major changes all throughout the year. Keep it rolling.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I don’t believe that crap about DA though wanting someone else. It fites his MO. He wants a ball control, conservative offense and a top 5 defense, and winning through defense like SFO last year.
Only, he wasn’t looking at what we had – so screwed up the offense and hasn’t fixed the defense yet.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Mav,
They have NO CORNERBACKS.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
“The season moves fast,” Allen said. “Sometimes you think you see something, and it’s not exactly the way you saw it. When you get a little bit of time to sit back and look at it, spend a little bit of time looking at it, it opens your eyes to a few different things. We looked at a lot of different areas from what we were doing well and what we have to improve on. We’ll move forward from there.”
TRANSLATION: I’m in over my head and don’t know how to fix this. However, I’m going to throw out as many vague, nonsensical statements mixed with cliches as I can while speaking in a solemn, professional tone and hope that people won’t catch on to the fact that I am nowhere near ready for this role.
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I’m afraid you’re right.
Smiling Tittyboy isn’t ready.
I don’t give a darn what he or anyone else says in the way of excuse making for the despicable, jovial attitude he displayed with Fox after that epic beatdown in Denver.
I don’t think it’s appropriate for players to do anything more than shake hands in a display of sportsmanship after a contest.
Especially reprehensible for the HEAD COACH to be smiling and so disconnected from the asswhupping his team just took.
Don’t give me any ‘he’s good friends with Fox’ BS either. He’s not getting paid to be friends with Fox or to be smiling with him. He’s getting paid to WIN games.
And when you fail as miserably as he did that day, it is INEXCUSABLE to have a big smile on your face.
I’ll be SMILING when Tits and Krapp are elsewhere.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
It will probably named “Allen Davis Stadium”
I would actually like that thought to come true
Call me “romantic,” lol.
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More like Best Buy Al Davis Memorial Field
October 8th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Just look at the Texan’s offense to see what Knapp is trying to do. The Texans just have better players and a much better offensive line.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Chaz should of had that onside kick, hit him right in the hands, would of ben huge for the Jets
October 8th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Texans have better coaching across the board, no way to argue that
October 8th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Just look at the Texan’s offense to see what Knapp is trying to do. The Texans just have better players and a much better offensive line.
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And they don’t have a rookie o-line coach. Look around the league. Most offensive line coaches have been doing this for a decade or two. Pollack’s brand new.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
The Texans offense is kind of conservative like Knapp’s.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
This is why I come to the blog so often. Us Raider fans give our “leaders’ so much respect and admiration with our nicknames.
-Mark Davis:”The red haired, pockmarked, clownish, freakish spawn” (credit goes to Blackandsilverside for that one)
-Reggie McKenzie: “The Lip” (so many are adopting that one i’m not sure who started it)
-Dennis Allen: “Smiling Titty Boy”??? (nicely done Raiderman). Or the variation… just plain old “Tits”.
…and the ones for the players? That’s a whole other topic.
See. This is what happens when u tick us off and ruin our Sunday happiness.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Gruden and ESPN dissing Chaz
October 8th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
So freaking tired of hearing about the Texan offense.
As if they’re some asrounding unit. As if they’re running some amazingly innovative scheme. As if they’re a scoring machine.
They’ve got a solid QB, a very good OLine, Foster, and other weapons. Not to mention a very good D.
Their personnal is more impressive than their scheme.
They aren’t a scoring machine.
They aren’t blowing people away offensively.
What’s this fascination with the stinking Texans ?
October 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
So freaking tired of hearing about the Texan offense.
As if they’re some asrounding unit. As if they’re running some amazingly innovative scheme. As if they’re a scoring machine.
They’ve got a solid QB, a very good OLine, Foster, and other weapons. Not to mention a very good D.
Their personnal is more impressive than their scheme.
They aren’t a scoring machine.
They aren’t blowing people away offensively.
What’s this fascination with the stinking Texans ?
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They have one of if not the best WR in the NFL….he helps make all of the components of their team better then they actually are….
They have a great Defensive Line….arguably the 2nd best in the NFL….great tackling line backers…
Just a solid squad….
But I agree…nothing special…
October 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Bob, new slogan for banner reads:
NO MORE KNAPPY TITTY’S!
October 8th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Been saying all along Glass is not an NFL receiver…everybody gave him a pass because he was never healthy. Well now he’s healthy, not exactly lighting it up.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
I love watching the 2012 Jets in the red zone. It’s always riveting. Chaz Schillens just created the first ever “no” route.
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LOL
October 8th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Wildcat sucks.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
After the bye week, BigMac, Robocoach Junior, Krappy and crew made their much awaited player evaluation report.
(My guess is that GM coaches weren’t evaluated, and that a lot of Lip service was given to the fans in regards to the “everyone will be evaluated,” bye week.)
So what report do we get, “at the end of the day, coaches coach, players execute.”
Oh yeah, great news, no mentioned of any players benched, no coaches and or schemes changed, no new trades in the making, at the end of the day more robocoach speak from Junior: “Clearly, we have got to get better.” For the 153th time, no sheeeet, Junior.
And, don’t forget that brilliant exposé on what turnovers are, and about players flying.”
Can somebody please stop the “at the end of the day” crap? What do you get at the end of the day? The morning after and another day, and nothing is resolved, same ol’ shinola.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
My balloon was burst today with DA’s comments. Silly me. I was actually holding out hope that there might be something special about DA; that somehow he was going to use the beatdown from his former team and the comparing of him unfavorably to Hue by the media, and having his ability questioned by…everyone… and use that as motivation to change the things he needs to change.
After reading his comments about what he “discovered” in his evaluations…NOTHING is different.
You’re telling me that after watching the film of the first four games, and doing a thorough evaluation of the team that he’s come to the conclusion that it’s just a matter of “execution”?
So far this new regime has done NOTHING to generate even the least bit of excitement…about ANYTHING.
I’m a fan, not a person on the front office staff. It’s my job to ENJOY football.
This new regime does nothing but roll out mind numbing cliches, never makes a move that could generate the least bit of excitement and to top it off trots out the worst team in the league on Sundays. THEN tells us to “be patient”.
I’m a fan. I don’t have to be patient.
If the Raiders weren’t in my DNA, I would flip off the entire organization and tell Reggie, DA (and his nauseating cliches) to go f themselves.
Like it or not i’m stuck. But hey, if i’m patient long enough maybe by 2016 I might be able to root for a team that maybe might have a chance at being a possible playoff contender…maybe.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I don’t mind DA’s pressers. He sounds like a coach. He talks more like Bill Bellicheck than Hue Jackson.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Here is the REAL question we should be asking…doesn’t matter whether you apply it to today or 3 years from now.
Can anyone honestly see this GM and this coaching staff compete for and win a Super Bowl?
October 8th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Tits should be wearing a training bra instead of a headset.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
It is ridiculous to judge McKenzie, or Allen, after just 4 games.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
You think the Jets will look at tonight as a “moral” victory?
At least Rex will give the fans something interesting at the presser..not a memorized robotic script stolen from the coach at Carolina Tech.
“Uhhh… we just have to get better.”
“Uhhh… I feel if we continue to work hard everyday, and continue to prepare well for our opponents on Sunday, that we’ll be able to get to a point where we can eventually put ourselves in a positon to be successful.”
October 8th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
It is ridiculous to judge McKenzie, or Allen, after just 4 games.
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It’s ridiculous NOT to judge them after 4 games.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I’ll judge them again every time I decide to….ridiculous or not!
You call it judgement….I call it motivation.
“We judge others by their behavior, we judge ourselves by our intentions”
October 8th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
C Grinner @RealRaider2055
Right! RT @cottovic: #Texans RB Arian Foster with another big game tonight… yeah, the zone-blocking scheme is just crap. #Sarcasm
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October 8th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
It is ridiculous to judge McKenzie, or Allen, after just 4 games.
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It’s ridiculous NOT to judge them after 4 games.
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You guys act like the world is ending because the Raiders are 1-3. Plenty of Al teams started off 1-3. This is a rebuilding year or two.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Q: “Coach Allen, with the holidays coming up how do you intend to spend that time?”
DA: “Well first and foremost the holidays are an important time to spend with family…so i am looking forward to that aspect of that”.
Q: “Do you like to go out with your kids on Halloween”?
DA: “Yes I do…I feel that Halloween gives us an excellent opportunity to spend time together as a family. It’s important to have that balance in our lives and every now and then there’s nothing wrong with even getting a little silly… and we feel that Halloween gives us an excellent opportunity to spend time together with the goal being to see exponential growth in our family unit. If we can do that, I feel it may give us an opportunity to be successful in terms of our growth as a family. Yes..Halloween can be an enjoyable experience as long as it’s done safely and fundamentally sound. Heck, I may even dress up in a costume”.
Q: “What will you dress up as coach”?
DA: “An extension cord”.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Texans showing how a 3-4 zone causes more INTs and confusion on blitz pickups.
Gonna take a few years to produce a 3-4 zone here.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Texans showing how a 3-4 zone causes more INTs and confusion on blitz pickups.
Gonna take a few years to produce a 3-4 zone here.
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Again, why would you want to copy another team?
This theme of it’s gonna take a few years to produce results is getting to be a little bit discouraging…..and it is alarming how many of you (probably Raider employees) continue to mention it….
You have the time to spread your lies….I have the time to dispute them….
So far….we are BOTH losing!
October 8th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
If Tits went out trick-or-treating he’d come home with an empty bag and would need to spend a week evaluating why he didn’t get any candy.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
If Tits went out trick-or-treating he’d come home with an empty bag and would need to spend a week evaluating why he didn’t get any candy.
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LMOL….Post of the night!
On that note….
Goodnight!
October 8th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Albert I m with you on the judging Dennis and Reggie after only four games. Ridiculous. As for envisioning if this coach and gm winning a Super Bowl…that is crazy to even talk about. Who the hell knows. Good lord. If some of you are so fired up after the first four games of undoing the past 30 years or so, go like the patriots and lead happier lives.
You can’t mortgage the future on Stanford routt, kameron wimbley, Gabriel Wilson, and javon walkers…that is what’s been going on. That’s why we have no depth and marginal talent.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“He asked me, ‘Where are you right now,’ ” Seymour said. “I told him, ‘New England.’ And he said, ‘I’m in sunny California.’ One thing I knew was how much he loved his players, and his players always wanted to win for him, because they knew how much he cared about them.”
And how do you repay Mr. Davis’ care back, Dick?
What has sunny Cali turned you into?
A slacker. a check collector, taking practice and plays off, basically a lead weight dragging the defense to the pits, at par of the JVille Jags, are you kidding me?
You should be ashamed of yourself. Why don’t you just retire and save us more grief.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Duck,
Gruden made the playoffs multiple times after that Super Bowl win. Quit hating.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
And he did it with minimal talent being that he had ZERO 1st or 2nd round picks two years in a row.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Backstage
you aren’t copying another TEAM…
you are using the SYSTEM that most solid Defenses use – a 3-4 zone defense.
Texans, 49ers, Ravens, Steelers…
October 8th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
After winning several archery contests, the young and rather boastful champion challenged a Zen master who was renowned for his skill as an archer. The young man demonstrated remarkable technical proficiency when he hit a distant bull’s eye on his first try, and then split that arrow with his second shot. “There,” he said to the old man, “see if you can match that!” Undisturbed, the master did not draw his bow, but rather motioned for the young archer to follow him up the mountain. Curious about the old fellow’s intentions, the champion followed him high into the mountain until they reached a deep chasm spanned by a rather flimsy and shaky log. Calmly stepping out onto the middle of the unsteady and certainly perilous bridge, the old master picked a far away tree as a target, drew his bow, and fired a clean, direct hit. “Now it is your turn,” he said as he gracefully stepped back onto the safe ground. Staring with terror into the seemingly bottomless and beckoning abyss, the young man could not force himself to step out onto the log, no less shoot at a target. “You have much skill with your bow,” the master said, sensing his challenger’s predicament, “but you have little skill with the mind that lets loose the shot.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
backstage
make line breaks your friends.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Hail to the Texans, intelligent and modern franchise.
They don’t overpay for stars (Mario Williams) and maintain cap-space, depth, and competition.
They run a proven 3-4 zone system with a proven D coach (Wade Phillips).
They have a dynamic zone-block run system that turns any RB into a star. That offers up play-actions galore and creative play designs.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I don’t mind DA’s pressers. He sounds like a coach. He talks more like Bill Bellicheck than Hue Jackson.
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We wouldn’t mind his robotic, mind numbing cliches if he wasn’t trotting out the worst team in the league on Sunday.
He can “sound” like a head coach all he wants but as yet has shown absolutely NOTHING as a HC. Unlike Belichik.
He can start by simply getting us off of laughingstock status.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Alex(374). When gruden got there they were LOADED. In fact, by the time he left, the were depleted of all that talent. That’s a big reason he and Allen were let go. That’s about the time those four missed draft picks came back to bite their the ass. Couldn’t replace the talent that left
October 8th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Alex (378), how long did they stay with their head coach through all those 8 and 8 seasons. It took time and patience to get there.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
DA is what we always knew he was. In over his head. Knapp is the same way. An easy way to tell if they are great coaches is to look at their old teams. Do the Broncos or Texans miss DA or Knapp??? Didn’t think so. Have you heard any players on either team talk about what a struggle it is to adjust without them? Didn’t think so. When was the last time you saw a division rival lose a defensive coordinator to another team and not be upset about it. John Fox acts like he just guaranteed two victories by recommending DA for the job. The worst thing about Knapp and DA is that there isn’t anything wrong with their schemes it’s that they can’t implement them. No changes after the bye week? Pathetic.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
You guys….smh
October 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Raider guy
they were loaded on D but getting a little old.
They had squat on O.
They had ZERO 1st and 2nd round picks for two years in a row.
Despite that, playoffs 3 of Gruden’s first 6 seasons there. Not bad.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Gotta laugh
at Raider fans who think the coach is going to divulge anything worthwhile to a media member.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Nice knowledge Alex. Didn’t they have a couple deep play off runs with dungy b4 he got there. I think the year prior they were in the championship game weren’t they?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Gotta laugh at fans who make excuses for mediocre coaching.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
“An easy way to tell if they are great coaches is to look at their old teams.”
ILLOGICAL.
No matter how GOOD or BAD a Patriots OC is, he won’t be missed after he leaves so long as Brady and Bill are there.
By your rational, the Chiefs miss Charlie Weis and the Dolphins miss whoever their QB coach was when Chad Pennington took them to the playoffs.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
You guys act like the world is ending because the Raiders are 1-3. Plenty of Al teams started off 1-3. This is a rebuilding year or two.
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This is still a NFL business and they still have to sell tickets.
While I understand Mark Davis inherited a lackluster situation, you don’t go into the season saying, “Alright, this is what I want to do… It will take a few seasons to gel… and will take a ton of growing pain… but Raider Nation is tough… They can take it, I’m sure!”
Our offense, last year, were one of the most explosive in the league. We were top 5 in plays of 20+ and 40+ yards, and seeing such creativity and big plays made Raiders worthwhile and fun to watch -regardless of their pop-warner defense.
The “Three Headed Dragon” is causing quite the commotion , in that, they dismantled what little good we had and made this team a lesser product. They made this first half of the season, so far, a learning experience for themselves.
When instead they should have slowly transitioned to their goals with people that actually have accolades in coaching!
You bring in one rookie coach at a time, you don’t make it a frenzy at each position.
2011 Raiders had no training camp, no OTAs, nothing.
You have a full off season in 2012 to get this team right, build off last year, but no.. DA said,
“fukc it, let’s start fresh -my staff can do better than a top 5 line and top 5 offense in big plays. This line was top grade in power scheme and D-Mac was leading the league for awhile (even with him phased out of 2nd half of those games), but with my scheme he can lead the universe in rushing ..Idk if we have the personal though-hmm, the line is strong, but–ahh, they’ll be fine.. our receivers though.. they’re rather small -ehh, D. Wow is amazing.. he’ll make it work”
We knew our defense was going to be porous
We knew our offense would be inconsistent
The one thing that we no longer have to look forward to ,that was consistent, was big plays and getting 5 yards a pop /w DMC.
I’m falling asleep with this play calling and this poor coaching. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of seeing my team frustrated. And I’m tired of seeing these coaches looking lost and feeding us lies.
Raider fans have endured worse heartache, trust me DA, you can give it to us rough.. we can take it, I assure you
October 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
DT
we were SUPPOSED to start 1-4.
Who thought we were going to be good this year?
Not me, not the bookies, not the media (who predicted us for last place)…
only you kool-aid drinkers thought we had a decent D to win some games with ONE healthy WR and NO pass-rushers or linebackers.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
How about belicheck after Cleveland or levy after Kansas City? Both were ran out of town and both came back to kick a all over the place
October 8th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Raider guy Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Alex (378), how long did they stay with their head coach through all those 8 and 8 seasons. It took time and patience to get there.
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Guy, the difference is it’s hard to be patient when you have no real reason to expect that the patience will be rewarded.
It would be much different if Reggie had brought Parcells, Cowher, heck ANYBODY with a proven track record of turning around franchises. Be “patient”? . ..Patience for a HC who clearly stated his goal was to “get better everyday” and then follows up a win the prior week with the biggest beatdown to our hated rival in 50 dam years?
“Patience” for a coach who promises a thorough evaluation of his disaster of a team and after intense scrutiny and analysis emerges from the film room to make the grand announcement that “we just need to execute better”?
“Patience”??? Yeah, maybe for Parcells or something but for THIS guy?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
But we WILL be good. Look at how good the draft was this year…without a draft! Reggie was brought here and he said: I am going to build this through the draft. This is what that mindset starts as. It ends with a kick ass team that is solid for years.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
A proven guy like Gary kubiak the young oc of the broncos for all those years with no head coaching experience?they stuck with him because they believed in him. Dude, Houston for several years were pissed they kept him year after year…now look. He is the head of your model franchise. Dennis can be that guy too. To say we know different is crazy after four games.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
TP!
Go Buckeyes!
I Miss AL!
October 8th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Als biggest mistake was not coming up with a plan or will for the team in case he passed and leavin
g his football illiterate son in charge…
October 8th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
How much confidence would YOU have in these seasons with an unproven former oc?
6-10
8-8
8-8
9-7
6-10
I bet da has a better record after his first three years.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
My balloon was burst today with DA’s comments. Silly me. I was actually holding out hope that there might be something special about DA; that somehow he was going to use the beatdown from his former team and the comparing of him unfavorably to Hue by the media, and having his ability questioned by…everyone… and use that as motivation to change the things he needs to change.
After reading his comments about what he “discovered” in his evaluations…NOTHING is different.
You’re telling me that after watching the film of the first four games, and doing a thorough evaluation of the team that he’s come to the conclusion that it’s just a matter of “execution”?
So far this new regime has done NOTHING to generate even the least bit of excitement…about ANYTHING.
I’m a fan, not a person on the front office staff. It’s my job to ENJOY football.
This new regime does nothing but roll out mind numbing cliches, never makes a move that could generate the least bit of excitement and to top it off trots out the worst team in the league on Sundays. THEN tells us to “be patient”.
I’m a fan. I don’t have to be patient.
If the Raiders weren’t in my DNA, I would flip off the entire organization and tell Reggie, DA (and his nauseating cliches) to go f themselves.
Like it or not i’m stuck. But hey, if i’m patient long enough maybe by 2016 I might be able to root for a team that maybe might have a chance at being a possible playoff contender…maybe.
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All the hype how he was gonna dig deep from A to Z and not one mention how the scheme is the failure. Poor play calling, very conservative play, very evident why we beat pitts (Palmer calling his own game) and obvious why denver lodged its johnson up our ass. Not one mention about the OC or his inability to call plays. Very homoginized, very sterile.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
What would you have liked to hear? I am asking for real.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Alex
If you think that Charlie Weis is a great coach then it’s pointless to even try to talk to you. By my logic a team struggles to maintain a high standard of play if they lose coaches that are key to that teams success. Nothing about DA is impressive or innovative. I’m still waiting for any halftime adjustments or any leadership. He does the same thing in his press conferences as he did in his job interview. He says all of the right things but he can’t produce. And if you’ve ever read any of my comments the you would know that the Raiders are EXACTLY where I though they would be. I said it as soon as DA was hired. 1st year GM with no experience + 1st year Head Coach with only one year of coaching a below average defense is just asking for trouble. And no Alex I didn’t care for Hue Jackson either.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I bought a new iPhone 5 and was experimenting with Siri, the artificial intelligent helper on the phone. My initial feeling was Siri was actually pretty dumb. Then, I asked her a trick question, “Why are the Raiders such a schitty team”? This is true and I guess it proves that Siri really is pretty bright. Siri responded to my question, “Here is a roster of the Oakland Raiders”. I can only take this to mean that our problem really centers around the quality of our players. Siri was really right on. Without talented athletes, we are going nowhere fast. Now, I’m just thinking about how to ask about our infamous coaching staff. I’ll report back on the question & answer.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Custom Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
My balloon was burst today with DA’s comments. Silly me. I was actually holding out hope that there might be something special about DA; that somehow he was going to use the beatdown from his former team and the comparing of him unfavorably to Hue by the media, and having his ability questioned by…everyone… and use that as motivation to change the things he needs to change.
After reading his comments about what he “discovered” in his evaluations…NOTHING is different.
You’re telling me that after watching the film of the first four games, and doing a thorough evaluation of the team that he’s come to the conclusion that it’s just a matter of “execution”?
So far this new regime has done NOTHING to generate even the least bit of excitement…about ANYTHING.
I’m a fan, not a person on the front office staff. It’s my job to ENJOY football.
This new regime does nothing but roll out mind numbing cliches, never makes a move that could generate the least bit of excitement and to top it off trots out the worst team in the league on Sundays. THEN tells us to “be patient”.
I’m a fan. I don’t have to be patient.
If the Raiders weren’t in my DNA, I would flip off the entire organization and tell Reggie, DA (and his nauseating cliches) to go f themselves.
Like it or not i’m stuck. But hey, if i’m patient long enough maybe by 2016 I might be able to root for a team that maybe might have a chance at being a possible playoff contender…maybe.
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Well said. I feel the same as you. At this point DA has ZERO credibility as far as I’m concerned until he proves he could coach which up to this point he has not done so. You know this is a coordinated PR move by RM and DA. My conspiracy theory is they want to lose to say look this team was POS we inherited. We need time to fire all and hire our own players draft ,….. At he same time Mark Davis is working to move the team to LA. Much easier moving a losing team than a playoff team. There will be less of resistance from fans with a lsing team than a playoff team.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Huff is delusional.
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“Free safety Michael Huff envisioned the Raiders defense being a top-five unit that imposed its will on opposing offenses”
Ya think? Delusional isn’t the word. Myopic, maybe.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I’m not saying we know that DA is gonna be a bad HC forever. We don’t. That’s the point. We DON’T know what we have with this guy either way. You say it was a good draft but that opinion is NOT widely held.
Reg didn’t have much to work with and the jury is still out. I like Burris. I think he’s a good one.
All we can judge so far is the performance thus far. I’m talking about DA. He said the goal is “to get better everyday”. Has he? He went from a big win to the most embarrassing loss to Denver in 50 yrs.
I’m not blind. There is waaaaaaay more wrong with this team than just “execution”. It took him a week of intense scrutiny from a-z to come up with that?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Custom Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
My balloon was burst today with DA’s comments. Silly me. I was actually holding out hope that there might be something special about DA; that somehow he was going to use the beatdown from his former team and the comparing of him unfavorably to Hue by the media, and having his ability questioned by…everyone… and use that as motivation to change the things he needs to change.
After reading his comments about what he “discovered” in his evaluations…NOTHING is different.
You’re telling me that after watching the film of the first four games, and doing a thorough evaluation of the team that he’s come to the conclusion that it’s just a matter of “execution”?
So far this new regime has done NOTHING to generate even the least bit of excitement…about ANYTHING.
I’m a fan, not a person on the front office staff. It’s my job to ENJOY football.
This new regime does nothing but roll out mind numbing cliches, never makes a move that could generate the least bit of excitement and to top it off trots out the worst team in the league on Sundays. THEN tells us to “be patient”.
I’m a fan. I don’t have to be patient.
If the Raiders weren’t in my DNA, I would flip off the entire organization and tell Reggie, DA (and his nauseating cliches) to go f themselves.
Like it or not i’m stuck. But hey, if i’m patient long enough maybe by 2016 I might be able to root for a team that maybe might have a chance at being a possible playoff contender…maybe.
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Well said. I feel the same as you. At this point DA has ZERO credibility as far as I’m concerned until he proves he could coach which up to this point he has not done so. You know this is a coordinated PR move by RM and DA. My conspiracy theory is they want to lose to say look this team was POS we inherited. We need time to fire all and hire our own players draft ,….. At he same time Mark Davis is working to move the team to LA. Much easier moving a losing team than a playoff team. There will be less of resistance from fans with a lsing team than a playoff team.
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Sure looking that way.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Wuz happenin blog brahs, nerds and goobers?
Got some sore nads. Here’s why.
No disrespect to The Beech Dawg, Missus Beeecham and Beeechams Gay Lover, but I just unloaded a turd so big it’s gonna take five backhoes to tear it apart.
SUPER DAWG DROPS A SUPER LAWG
Must have been that tuna quiche casserole, a platter of BBQ ribs, fourteen big macs, 3 apple pies and a gallon of ice cream.
You know Super Dawg can eat when he’s hungry.
Now you know I gots to get my blow hole massaged to ease the pain of droppin such a big duece.
GOIN TO SOAK IN CHICKEN SOUP, SHAGRIZZLE
October 8th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
JB Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I bought a new iPhone 5 and was experimenting with Siri, the artificial intelligent helper on the phone. My initial feeling was Siri was actually pretty dumb. Then, I asked her a trick question, “Why are the Raiders such a schitty team”? This is true and I guess it proves that Siri really is pretty bright. Siri responded to my question, “Here is a roster of the Oakland Raiders”.
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Good one. Fans here are comparing us to the Houston Texans. Well, let’s take a look:
They have arguably the best WR in the game today. We have been starting Hagan and Streator. They have arguably the best running back in the game today. What I saw watching Foster was a guy who runs hard, runs through tackles and makes nice cuts. We have a guy averaging slightly over three yards a carry, who goes down on lst contact, and against Miami had more drops than receptions. Do you want me to keep going?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Gotta laugh
at Raider fans who think the coach is going to divulge anything worthwhile to a media member.
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Gotta laugh at a coach thinking anything he doesnt divulge is legit after watching a game in which DENVER NEVER PUNTED.
Allen can be thankful he doenst have New York’s media to deal with.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Some here have mentioned they are OK with “waitin” cuz they have the niners as a fallback to get them by. Must be nice. I wish I could care about another team other than the Raiders. Dam I wish I could. My heartjust isn’t in it.
Best I can do is root AGAINST certain teams and derie some enjoyment from watching them lose.
Hey I guess it’s something.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
R.I.P AL!
SUNDAYS WIN OVER THE DIRTYBIRDS IS FOR YOU ALMIGHTY AL!
October 8th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
We were talking about the value that patience and for the texans as they built the team. Kubiak started 6 -10. That might be where we are at. I agree that our roster is not comparable…yet
October 8th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Raider guy
You forget to mention that in 2006-2007 the Texans averaged 3.9 yards on the ground. Their offense was average and what saved Kubiac’s job was that they hired Alex Gibbs and handed him the keys to the offense. They changed the way they practiced and only ran two zone run plays wide and tight. That is what turned the Texans around. DA and Knapp are not capable of turning this team around. Doesn’t matter how long you wait.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Damn this guy just gave me goose bumps. This guy must send this video to the Raiders. WATCH FOR YOURSELF.
http://youtu.be/LPfwyddDp1A
October 8th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Allen can be thankful he doenst have New York’s media to deal with.
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Good point. He can also be thankful that the Whiners are playing well, and both MLB teams are in the playoffs so the media has some winners to cover and don’t have to focus on another Raider faceplant.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
JB Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I bought a new iPhone 5 and was experimenting with Siri, the artificial intelligent helper on the phone. My initial feeling was Siri was actually pretty dumb. Then, I asked her a trick question, “Why are the Raiders such a schitty team”? This is true and I guess it proves that Siri really is pretty bright. Siri responded to my question, “Here is a roster of the Oakland Raiders”.
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Good one. Fans here are comparing us to the Houston Texans. Well, let’s take a look:
They have arguably the best WR in the game today. We have been starting Hagan and Streator. They have arguably the best running back in the game today. What I saw watching Foster was a guy who runs hard, runs through tackles and makes nice cuts. We have a guy averaging slightly over three yards a carry, who goes down on lst contact, and against Miami had more drops than receptions. Do you want me to keep going?
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OK, say we stay with the ZBS, which I think is bullsh1t, but so we do. Houston seems to be the team that everyones riding on its nut sack. Maybe the reason they are succesful is they have bright coaches to implement that system. We don’t. We coulda picked up from where we left off last season and at least have been competetive. Instead, trying to instill a new system with inferior coaches has been a failure. First mistake was not keeping a system that fir our personel, then the second mistake was thinking they were bright enough to impement it. If you want to compare success, look at StLouis. New coach, with experience, period. We got greenhorns that are still looking for their ass.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
408,
Yeah, Oakland is a cake walk. Out here in Chicago the whole organization would be getting roasted on a daily basis.
There are some markets who don’t tolerate being told to be “patient”. Shoot, try telling the Pittsburgh fanbase to be “patient”. Good luck with that.
Green Bay? Are u kidding me? Philly? Yeah right.
Oakland? Oh of course. We’re used to losing. Shoot, you don’t even have to throw these guys a bone..just keep signing practice squad guys and tell em to “have a little perspective here for a minute” and they’ll be fine.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
What was all that Gruden hate for Chaz tonight? He kept calling him out all night long.
I’m not a Chaz fan but he wasn’t that bad and caught a few passes too. He must have rubbed Chukky the wrong way during the week or something.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
DT
by YOUR logic, Weis is a good coach.
That was my point, that your silly logic about “judge a coach by whether his last team misses him.”
With Weis, KC makes playoffs, without Weis, they struggle to get 10 points.
Many other factors in that, but you make up some “based on old team” bologna just to say the Broncos don’t miss D.A.
Can’t have it both ways.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Some here have mentioned they are OK with “waitin” cuz they have the niners as a fallback to get them by. Must be nice. I wish I could care about another team other than the Raiders. Dam I wish I could. My heartjust isn’t in it.
Best I can do is root AGAINST certain teams and derie some enjoyment from watching them lose.
Hey I guess it’s something.
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There is no garauntee this useless system will work in Oakland, especially when you have inferior coaches. We had it goin last year. Just needed a DC and to resign Bush. Basically our whole team is rookies. Brilliant move by the new regime? Not sure about that. A wiser move woulda been to keep the status quo and make it better.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Hey, we don’t need to attack each other here, we just disagree.
Most of u guys are Raider fans and i’d high five you at a game and celebrate with all of you. I just have NO FAITH WHATSOEVER in this DA guy, and my jury is out on Reggie.
I wish I could have that quiet confidence that some of you are possessed of.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
DT
by YOUR logic, Weis is a good coach.
That was my point, that your silly logic about “judge a coach by whether his last team misses him.”
With Weis, KC makes playoffs, without Weis, they struggle to get 10 points.
Many other factors in that, but you make up some “based on old team” bologna just to say the Broncos don’t miss D.A.
Can’t have it both ways.
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So let me get this straight. Are you saying Houston is better cause knapp is gone and Denver is better cause DA is gone?
October 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
OK, say we stay with the ZBS, which I think is bullsh1t, but so we do. Houston seems to be the team that everyones riding on its nut sack. Maybe the reason they are succesful is they have bright coaches to implement that system. We don’t.
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Sure we do. The offensive line is the ONE unit that requires the MOST work. And we are talking timing between WR’s and Q’s which takes months! The offensive line is a major practiced choreography out there whether you are running a zone or power scheme. Even If we were running a power scheme it would still take 6-8 weeks for that Oline to jell.
And Everyone keeps saying it’s the same line from last year. IT AIN’T!!! We have ONE POISTION, ONE, O-N-E, that is the same from last year. That seems like a brand new line to me, and it is going to take them probably 8 weeks to get their assignments down. We have been through four weeks. Doesn’t matter what scheme we are running. It’s just the way it is.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Hey, we don’t need to attack each other here, we just disagree.
Most of u guys are Raider fans and i’d high five you at a game and celebrate with all of you. I just have NO FAITH WHATSOEVER in this DA guy, and my jury is out on Reggie.
I wish I could have that quiet confidence that some of you are possessed of.
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I agree with you. One of the few who see it clearly. I think DA knows knapp scheme sucks but his ego won’t let him admit it.
All we needed was a new DC and to resign Bush, and continue from last year. Everyone says Hue lost 4 or 5 games to end last season, therefore he wasn’t all that. Not true at all. The defense lost the games, not Hue. If it wasn’t for Hue, we’d easily been 4-12 at best.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
This team needs to show their balls.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
LOL at “we had it going on last year.”
We had no 1st round pick two years ago or this year to build with.
We lost to the Dolphins, Patriots, Lions, and Packers.
We beat the lowly Chiefs, the Cutler-less Bears, the Tebow-led Broncos once, the terrible (at that time) Vikings.
We had ridiculous contracts for veterans that caused us to have zero depth.
We were MUCH MORE LIKELY to go south from 8-8 than north this year, and EVERYONE in the know said so.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Yo blog brahs, nerds and super goobers.
Anyone know how to get pizza sauce stains out of my jock strap? Don’t ask how it got there. You DO NOT want to know.
HABAFIZZLE SHAMBADRIZZLE
PMPP ROCKIN AND LAWG ROLLIN
October 8th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
408,
Yeah, Oakland is a cake walk. Out here in Chicago the whole organization would be getting roasted on a daily basis.
There are some markets who don’t tolerate being told to be “patient”. Shoot, try telling the Pittsburgh fanbase to be “patient”. Good luck with that.
Green Bay? Are u kidding me? Philly? Yeah right.
Oakland? Oh of course. We’re used to losing. Shoot, you don’t even have to throw these guys a bone..just keep signing practice squad guys and tell em to “have a little perspective here for a minute” and they’ll be fine.
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Thats what i’m saying….they have to be patient, otherwise their moving the franchise….
October 8th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
DJ
can we agree that it doesn’t MATTER if fans have “faith” in a coach after 4 games?
Packer fans wanted McCarthy gone after he started his career 1-4.
And Texans fans, as noted above, have wanted Kubiak gone multiple years.
I’m sure plenty of Colts fans had faith in Jim Caldwell after 4 games. Silent leader! Whoops.
Shoot, fans here had faith in Art Shell after winning 3 pre-season games.
Just saying, what a fan has “faith” in when it comes to a new regime after 4 games…
doesn’t matter.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
LOL at “we had it going on last year.”
We had no 1st round pick two years ago or this year to build with.
We lost to the Dolphins, Patriots, Lions, and Packers.
We beat the lowly Chiefs, the Cutler-less Bears, the Tebow-led Broncos once, the terrible (at that time) Vikings.
We had ridiculous contracts for veterans that caused us to have zero depth.
We were MUCH MORE LIKELY to go south from 8-8 than north this year, and EVERYONE in the know said so.
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Hell we’ve taken south to its lowest point. We were MUCH MORE LIKELY? We’re already there. WTF
October 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Organizations that have lost as many games as us the last decade…
Browns, Bucs, Rams, Jaguars, Cardinals, Dolphins…
anyone see them turning it around in ONE year with no 1st round draft picks?
Yeah, it takes time.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
DJ, I think the new ‘regime’ has made enough boneheaded moves to justify any lack of faith emotions anybody might have. We’re being castorated and sterilized when we could of elevated with a few simple moves.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Organizations that have lost as many games as us the last decade…
Browns, Bucs, Rams, Jaguars, Cardinals, Dolphins…
anyone see them turning it around in ONE year with no 1st round draft picks?
Yeah, it takes time.
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Rams seem to be doing it overnight with a bright new (experienced) coach. Az coaches have tenure. Browns BucsJags and Dolphins still suck.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
It’s one thing to be an up-and-coming 8-8 team…
with young stars, multiple 1st rounders performing well…
it’s ANOTHER thing to be 8-8 with rag-tag veterans with ridiculous contracts.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Alex
Weis and all of the other failed Belichick disciples were not integral to the Pats success. And franchises all over the NFL have learned the hard way (Browns, KC and Denver). The bottom line is when DA came from the Broncos the entire team said how happy they were that he was getting the opportunity to be a Head Coach. NO ONE MISSED HIM. Compare DA to Sean Payton. When Al Davis wanted to hire him, Jerry Jones handed him a bag of $$ and promoted him to assistant head coach.
Your problem is that you are so committed to prove that the Raiders are better off as a “modern organization” (MR) without Al Davis that you are willing to make any excuse for average coaching. My point is that DA is an average coach that is in over his head and has no support system in place that can save him. He is not innovative, he is not a proven leader and he drowning in his position.
Polish it any way you want but its still a turd.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
The Rams had, what, 5 picks in the first 80 of the draft?
And still, they’ll be HAPPY to finish at .500 this year.
History proves, it takes time.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Long time listener, first time caller. I’m just goin to pop in here and give a big shout out to all my blog brahs doin the PMPP. If the new system didn’t lick nads so bad, we wouldn’t be havin this convo. No doubt dudes. PMPP in da house.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
But does any team have a punter like the Raiders? I think not.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
AH…the football speech…
Yes fans….it can help with the desire aspect….but without a plan and those able to understand and execute that plan…..it falls on deaf ears…
The Reality:
We have a convict playing Middle Backer…who lacks hustle and takes no responsibility (endorsed by the GM and Head Coach)
A future HOF on the Defensive Line who collects the biggest paycheck on the team while routinely taking practice off….
A squad of corners carefully selected by our GM who has a knack for talent…
And to top it off….a Coaching Staff who blames their creation…25 of the players from this team were not here last season….and this is directly related to our LEADERSHIP!
So, watch this speech….feel your goosebumps….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1usvFcP_cxc
and then realize that the guy who fired nearly everyone in the building and then proceeded to hire his TWIN brother has your back….
After all:
“The Raider Organization is about to embark on a NEW ERA”
October 8th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
DT
you changed your point twice already.
“My point is that DA is an average coach that is in over his head and has no support system in place that can save him.”
Proof? None. Just speculation. Meaningless, emotional, irrational speculation with no history to back it up. “Compare him to Sean Payton.”
Wow there, way to just go right to the 1 in 100 young hire that lights it up with Drew Brees as the comparison.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
DT42 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Alex
Weis and all of the other failed Belichick disciples were not integral to the Pats success. And franchises all over the NFL have learned the hard way (Browns, KC and Denver). The bottom line is when DA came from the Broncos the entire team said how happy they were that he was getting the opportunity to be a Head Coach. NO ONE MISSED HIM. Compare DA to Sean Payton. When Al Davis wanted to hire him, Jerry Jones handed him a bag of $$ and promoted him to assistant head coach.
Your problem is that you are so committed to prove that the Raiders are better off as a “modern organization” (MR) without Al Davis that you are willing to make any excuse for average coaching. My point is that DA is an average coach that is in over his head and has no support system in place that can save him. He is not innovative, he is not a proven leader and he drowning in his position.
Polish it any way you want but its still a turd.
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Word!
Truth!
Profound!
October 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Green Bay from 1994-present has become an org that has achieved long term sustainable success.
They had to start somewhere right. I was looking at their record(s) over this span and there are 3 different times they had a bad record. Did they take yrs. to rebuild? 2005 they go 4-12. The next yr. 8-8 and then 2007 they go 13-3. Then in 2008 they go 6-10. THEN they “rebuild” again and jump to 11-5 the next season.
If u look at their roster from the 4-12 season to the 13-3 season it looks like an enitrely different roster..in TWO YRS. The only constant being Woodson and Favre.
I guess my point is that if you have the talented front office guys you CAN turn it around quickly. The key is TALENTED front office guys.
I’d like to think…and I hope Reggie had alot to do with that. THAT would be reason to believe a little bit.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
A few posts ago, your point was that you can judge a coach by whether his previous team misses him.
Based on THAT illogical argument, you would have to say that the Chiefs miss Weis as OC and thus Weis is a good coach.
Your arguments are changing and easily shot down as having zero proof, AND having counter-proofs to prove them wrong.
Any team that lets a GOOD coach go and hires a GOOD coach to replace him won’t be missed. By your logic, that original GOOD coach is now a bad one. Dumb.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
A7
So let me get this straight. Are you saying Houston is better cause knapp is gone and Denver is better cause DA is gone?
October 8th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
DJ
excellent post. Based on Reggie’s draft and free agent finds (Wheeler, Streater, Criner) already looking better than half of Al’s roster, two years should be enough for him to put a solid team together.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
HONOLULU — Denver Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey was visibly disappointed Tuesday upon learning that his defensive coordinator, Dennis Allen, had agreed to become coach of the AFC West rival Oakland Raiders.
“It will be another coordinator,” Bailey said when told of the news at the Pro Bowl. “… I might sound a little selfish. I’m happy for him, don’t get me wrong. At the same time, I’m thinking about our team. That’s another change for us.”
When the Broncos hire Allen’s replacement, it will be their sixth defensive coordinator since Bailey joined the team in 2004. It also will be Denver’s fifth defensive coordinator in a five-year span (Bob Slowik, Mike Nolan, Don Martindale, Allen).
Bailey was effusive in his praise of Allen, describing the coach as “intense.” Allen, whom the Broncos brought over from the New Orleans Saints before the season, was a big part of the Denver defense’s emergence, according to Bailey.
“He knew how to get us ready,” Bailey said. “I give him a lot of credit for the success we had this year.
“(He’s) serious about the business,” Bailey added. “He’s one of the most intense coaches I’ve had. It was a pleasure working with him. You knew what he was going to bring you every day.”
Now Bailey and his teammates will be tasked with facing their former coach twice per year, a prospect that didn’t seem to overly excite the cornerback.
“I know what type of team he’s going to have,” Bailey said. “Very intense, hard-nosed, tough. That’s the way he is. That’s what I expect his team to be.”
October 8th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
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October 8th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
no Custom
that’s DTs silly argument about Denver being better because DA is gone, not because Manning showed up and Dumerville is healthy and (wait, they still are playing .500 ball like every John Fox team lol).
October 8th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
DJ -
excellent post. Based on Reggie’s cap-room maneuvering, long-term approach (aka don’t trade 1st and 2nd round picks every year) and draft and free agent finds (Wheeler, Streater, Criner) already looking better than half of Al’s roster, two years should be enough for him to put a solid team together.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
You know how I know Dennis Allen will be alright? Because I KNOW that dude is busting his balls to get this right. As concerned or pissed as some of you are, I ga-run-tee it is a fur action of what that dude feels. And he has the energy and intensity to keep him up at nights till this gd thing gets right.
Night you all…as always, thanks for the fun times…
October 8th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
“He knew how to get us ready,” Bailey said. “I give him a lot of credit for the success we had this year.
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I will say when the Raiders first came out on Monday night vs the chargers, they looked “wow”. Quick on D to the ball, knew how to tackle, fast and the O seemed to be clicking. Then the muff on the reverse and both sides of the ball have since gone south. At alarming speed.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
DJ
excellent post. Based on Reggie’s draft and free agent finds (Wheeler, Streater, Criner) already looking better than half of Al’s roster, two years should be enough for him to put a solid team together.
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What about our secondary?
Surely you can be objective in your synopsis….
That’s the difference between us….I am objective….you are not….
You have an agenda….I do not…
You only make points which validate your intention….
I make points which point toward the truth…whatever it might be….
You are selling tickets….
I am giving away the truth….
October 8th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Custom Raider Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
“He knew how to get us ready,” Bailey said. “I give him a lot of credit for the success we had this year.
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I will say when the Raiders first came out on Monday night vs the chargers, they looked “wow”. Quick on D to the ball, knew how to tackle, fast and the O seemed to be clicking. Then the muff on the reverse and both sides of the ball have since gone south. At alarming speed.
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Are you serious?
The Denver Defense last season benefited not only from the Tebow experiment because he made last minute plays….but the Bronco’s opponents rarely took any risk because they “thought” they could shut Tebow down…
Every single analyst and Defensive Coordinator Tebow faced thought they would be the team that shut him down….in the end….he was outscored….not out performed….by a Patriot Squad who sliced and diced Denver’s defense up in the playoffs…
Sell crazy someplace else…
October 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Alex
Now pay attention…..I’ll type slowly for you.
“My point is that DA is an average coach that is in over his head and has no support system in place that can save him.”
Lesson #1
DA’s experience with the Offensive side of the ball
……..none.
DA’s offensive coordinator
– a history of failure that has been well documented on this blog. He cannot implement the scheme he wants to run.
DA’s GM
– first time GM with no experience making all of the decisions. Being an Assistant GM is just that. You give opinions to the GM who makes the final decisions.
DA’s defensive coordinator
– a college Co-Defensive coordinator at Stanford for an entire season!…he has potential but has never had all of the responsibility and control of a defense.
Do you want me to go on?
I will leave you with our Special Teams guru and master of punt protection schemes Steve Hoffman (look who is the last endorsement……wonder how he got his job with the Raiders??)
http://hoffmankicking.com/wordpress/
enjoy MR…..have a good night.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
http://videosift.com/video/Show-me-your-balls
October 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
backstage
are you done puffing yourself up? Feel all great about your mighty self? Great, pat your head.
Agenda? I’m called a “hater” and “49er lover” because for 4 YEARS I’ve been on here telling it like it is and letting people know that, yes, once again, we were going to be not very good.
I predicted 6-10 for us this season. Agenda lol.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
This video at :54 seconds makes me laugh…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UV3HzQL4g
Reggie thought to himself:
“I know, I’ll put a big sign in my office which shows everyone who I AM”….
That way….they’ll know who I AM….even when I have no IDEA!
October 8th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
lol DT
blame the rookie head coach for a rookie GM. Stupid beyond belief.
Blame the rookie head coach for only having experience on one side of the ball…
like 99% of the coaches in NFL history. Way to go.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
you guys would have fired Mike McCarthy for starting his career 1-4.
You’d write up some nonsense about his OC and GM and ST guy and “how can you go 1-4 with Brett Favre???”
And in the end, your little opinions with no factual evidence matter NONE.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
448,
I think it was you said if we made a few moves (can’t recall which moves) we go 9-7 next yr. and then..who knows.
I would like much more than that…but looking at this team right now… it would look pretty good.
I don’t expect SB this yr. and at this point not even playoffs, but i would like DA to get this team to a point quickly where we aren’t considered to be the worst in the league. A team that is what DA said it WOULD be this yr…..hard nosed, aggressive, disciplined…he didn’t say this but I would hope that is meant to include one that didn’t get blown out by 25 pts. a game and that maximizes the talent they DO have.
It’s embarrassing what we’ve seen thus far. Just be competitive at this point, make us proud to walk into a sports bar with a Raider cap on with a little semblance of respect attached to it. That’s all.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
You guys would have fired Jeff Fisher and Gary Kubiak for their long run of 8-8 or worse seasons to start their careers.
You’d write up dumb arguments about how you KNEW they weren’t winners, blah blah blah.
We dont know jack about how DA’s career will turn out. Be ok with that.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
backstage
are you done puffing yourself up? Feel all great about your mighty self? Great, pat your head.
Agenda? I’m called a “hater” and “49er lover” because for 4 YEARS I’ve been on here telling it like it is and letting people know that, yes, once again, we were going to be not very good.
I predicted 6-10 for us this season. Agenda lol.
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I don’t give a chit what you predicted….you are clearly trying to steer opinion….if you are supportive of what we have seen thus far than that is where you and I disagree….
If your intention supporting DA and RM online is to help improve them….then we have a different way of motivation…
I am sickened by what I have seen thus far….
Mainly because every pitfall we find ourselves in I specifically predicted here on this BLOG!
Puffing myself up you ask? Sure….why not….Pride is not a sin….
I call em like I see em….and if I’m wrong….am the first to admit it….
October 8th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Yeah DJ
to be fair you have to give Reggie an off-season or two with actual 1st round picks, cap space, and the ability to continue turning over our bad roster.
How good will he be? We don’t know, but it’s better to admit that than to get all silly with comments about how DA and Reggie are in over their head, all because our terrible Al roster was not very good still.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Blog Brahs, nerds and Suppa Goobers
PMPP in Full Effect. Rockin this blog on. The jay jay is swarmin like a hive full of honey bees. Got it rockin.
Still tryin to figure out how to get pizza sauce stain outta my extra large (if yawl know what I mean) jock strap.
PIZZA PIZZA FO PIZZLE
October 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
you guys would have fired
for starting his career 1-4.
You’d write up some nonsense about his OC and GM and ST guy and “how can you go 1-4 with Brett Favre???”
And in the end, your little opinions with no factual evidence matter NONE.
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The 2005 Packers were 4-12…..not 8-8….and the 2004 Packers were 10-6….not 8-8….
Clearly not the same situation…
Stop trying to sway opinions and give me facts….
Fact:we were 8-8 the last 2 years
Fact:we have 25 new players
Fact:we are 1-3
October 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
backstage
Am I “supportive” of thinking that we SHOULDN’T keep using up 1st and 2nd round picks to load up and “win now” and thereby NOT build a strong foundation?
YES.
am I “supportive” of not keeping players around simply because they run fast?
YES.
Guilty as charged. Let’s see in time if we can SOMEHOW DO BETTER than 6 straight 11-loss seasons.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
You guys still talking about this sorry azz regressed Raider team? The regression is especially with the coaching staff, offense and special teams.
Raiders coaches should have used this bye week to demote Knapp and promote Saunders with a mandate to go back to running more power trap, counter and pulling guard run plays with very little zone blocking involved and the ditching of the zone stretch play.
Saunders would need to call more set screens like him and Hue did last year and concentrate on getting the ball to the fast play makers in space and utilize more matchup problems. 3rd down and red zone play calling need to be improved.
Of course McK and Allen are stubborn and stupid and they will not make these necessary changes to try and save the season. They will preach the same old non sense like patience and execution and Knapp is a good play caller all that typical bull crap.
The defense is the defense, they will continue to stink overall, especially the secondary.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Pound the Falcons and the -8.
They are going to roll on the Raiders in Georgia.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
That’s it Alex when you ask for an explanation and i give you one call it stupid. Shouldn’t you be taking your bat and ball and going home now?
Blame the rookie head coach for a rookie GM? No, blame both of them for not recognizing the need to hire or retain more experienced personnel while they got acclimated to the task at hand.
Blame the rookie head coach for only having experience on one side of the ball…
- No blame the rookie head coach for bringing in an Offensive Coordinator that has a history of mediocre production.
You really believe that this franchise is moving in the right direction or do you just want to be vindicated with your almost sociopathic obsession with Al Davis?
You are the Dennis Allen of this Blog….Pathetic.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
In the last 5 years,
Al used 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks to bring us…
Jason Campbell, Taiwan Jones, aging Richard Seymour, Joseph Barksdale, Rolando McClain, DVD, a WR with zero 1,000 yard seasons after 4 years, and Palmer.
Yeah, I think McKenzie can improve on that.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
People need to quit blaming Al Davis for our current woes. Al was a great man for the NFL and he was the Raider himself. We easily could have 7-8 super bowls, but the leagues conspirators saw to it that it did not happen. Eventually it wore him down. The ONLY thing I wish the great Al Davis would have done differently was leave the teams decisions up to Amy Trask. But I understand why he left it to Mark.
How anybody can be a fan of the Raiders and diss on Coach is beyond me.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
DT
exactly what AMAZING offensive coordinator was available? Come on, what SHOULD have been done? Whining without answers is unbecoming.
and YOU put our rookie GM on your list of reasons why DA will not succeed. YOU are blaming a rookie head coach for having a rookie GM. NOW you’re changing it up, again, when it’s pointed out how dumb that was.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
In the last 5 years,
Al used 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks to bring us…
Jason Campbell, Taiwan Jones, aging Richard Seymour, Joseph Barksdale, Rolando McClain, DVD, a WR with zero 1,000 yard seasons after 4 years, and Palmer.
Yeah, I think McKenzie can improve on that.
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And Palmer? Please explain that nugget of revisionist histrory.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
backstage
Am I “supportive” of thinking that we SHOULDN’T keep using up 1st and 2nd round picks to load up and “win now” and thereby NOT build a strong foundation?
YES.
am I “supportive” of not keeping players around simply because they run fast?
YES.
Guilty as charged. Let’s see in time if we can SOMEHOW DO BETTER than 6 straight 11-loss seasons.
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I agree….but a strong foundation starts with LEADERSHIP on top….the draft is about the future…not the present…the GM should have built up what was missing not gut everything and start over….
If starting 1-3 was in his plans….then I have a problem….
I will not be patient….I don’t want to hear that from our staff…..
Be Patient….who do these men think they work for?
October 8th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Mark Davis said it himself the day he hired RM…
“8-8 isn’t good enough”
October 8th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
lol DT
we set a RECORD for most consecutive 11-loss seasons in a row this last decade.
I don’t even have to try. Yes, we’ll probably make better draft and contract decisions going forward. Hard to be worse. And oh my! We’ll actually learn to play zone D down the road. Wow.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
ummm, Raider on High
Palmer cost us a 1st and 2nd and that was done by Al’s hand-chosen man who he was training in GM matters…
Again, I think we’ll do better going forward.
Crazy me.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Only Raider fans can someone
LONG
for the days of bad contracts, bad draft picks, and 11-loss seasons with no young player foundations.
Like some sick abuse cycle.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
*somehow
October 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
There’s no sin in trying to win as much as we can while we are “rebuilding”.
I’m seriously concerned that this Denver game was just the tip of the iceberg for this yr. I don’t want this to be some record setting yr. of futility.
I don’t care about having the #1 draft pick. 12 wks. of insulting beatdowns is not cool in my book.
I agree that Reggie cannot be judged as to his abilities based on what we’ve seen on the field thus far but i think we need to see improvement and I personally will not be satisfied with anything less.
DA? How do you come out of a detailed and extensive inventory of this team and ome out saying that all you see is that we need to “execute” better?
October 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Those of you who think Mark Davis won’t FIRE RM are delusional…
I can guarantee you one thing….he is NOT HAPPY right NOW…
Mark isn’t going to be patient….
Firing and hiring a man the same day is writing on the wall as far as I’m concerned!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Blog Goober says PMPP rockin in da house.
SHADIGGITY WUT HUT FLABADITTY
October 8th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Backstage
who says a strong foundation starts with leadership?
In the NFL, talent wins. Even BARRY SWITZER, BILL CALLAHAN, and NORV TURNER won games when they had talent.
We need talent, not some unmeasurable “leadership” that winning cures.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
PMPP partytime in da house!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
I would MUCH rather have beatdowns and the #1 pick
than to sign veterans on the way down who might win us 8 games instead of 5 but keep us from building with higher picks and more talented youth playing.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Alex……Coach Allen,
What am I changing? You ask questions, you get answers. Now you want names? Because now your argument is that there was no one out there that was better?? Classic!!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Lawg On my PMPP brahs. Just got a call from one of my blog brahs, says his lwag won’t leave the ‘green room’. Dude is gonna be hurtin. A lawg aint a lawg til it shows its face.
Anyone come up with an idea on how I can remove that pizza sauce stain from my extra large jock strap? My bizzles might laugh at that next time I got to take them out to dinner.
HUMMA HUMMA
October 8th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
“I would MUCH rather have beatdowns and the #1 pick’
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And there you have it! Ladies and Gentlemen of Raider Nation Coach Allen’s winning philosophy!! Manage your franchise like the LA Clippers!!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
DT
Your arguments keep changing. The first silly one was that you measure a coach by whether his previous team misses him.
As if who the old team hires (perhaps an amazing hire) somehow reflects on the quality of the outgoing guy
October 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
then you backtracked on the “DA is a bad coach because he has a rookie GM” nonsense.
Then you blame DA for hiring Knapp, without telling us what better option there was.
For all we know, there were WORSE options available. Not a stretch to think that not many people have Oakland at the top of their desired coaching destinations.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Backstage
who says a strong foundation starts with leadership?
In the NFL, talent wins. Even BARRY SWITZER, BILL CALLAHAN, and NORV TURNER won games when they had talent.
We need talent, not some unmeasurable “leadership” that winning cures.
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I said A STRONG FOUNDATION starts LEADERSHIP…
That who f’in said it…..
You guys wanna kiss these guys ass all year long and preach patience go the F ahead….
I do not have this luxury….
I realize SOMETHING that you OBVIOUSLY DO NOT….
I realize it’s GAMES like this week that can MAKE OR BREAK a TEAM and by extension an ORGANIZATION….
We want to find out what kind of a GM we have right NOW….when things are bad….when they look bleak…not when things are going well….
We want to assess the situation and the mindset when things are at their worst….
We want to find out what kind of Coaching Staff we have when things are not going well….when injuries have hit the entire TEAM….that’s when I FIND OUT WHO we have as a COACH….
You want to preach patience and blow sunshine up these men’s ass while we are the laughing stock of the league….go right ahead….
But don’t expect all of us to share in your optimism…..some of us are using the situation as a means to move forward…..
I think we both realize that the men in ALAMEDA read this BLOG….I think that is a fair observation….
I’m here to let them know that THIS TEAM PERFORMANCE is not good enough….that what we have seen thus far is not good enough….
Hey….if they want to prove me wrong….all they have to do it WIN on Sunday….and I’ll shut my MOUTH!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
and
to those of you paying attention
the easiest way to COMPLETELY change a team around is to land a game-changing QB.
Stafford, Luck, RGIII…
not exactly guys you can get if you keep going 7-9 or 8-8. Kinda have to REALLY tank to get a shot at a franchise-changer.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
But hey,
if you enjoyed going 8-8 with terribly overpaid veterans…
AND not having high 1st rounders to build with…
then knock yourselves out and re-live our past 10 years.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
It’s ok Coach Allen, we are going to follow your philosophy and draft Michael Olowokandi with the first pick of the draft. I stand corrected. You are a freaking genius. Makes you think, why doesn’t everyone just start throwing games as soon as they realize that they are not going to the playoffs?
October 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
lol backstage
a game like this week’s does not MAKE or BREAK an organization.
Drafting Matt Ryan, or Andrew Luck, or hiring Jim Hargbaugh, or drafting Calvin Johnson AND Stafford…
those are the things that change an organization.
Some random upset…I’m sure the Browns and Dolphins have had those.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Those of you who think Mark Davis won’t FIRE RM are delusional…
I can guarantee you one thing….he is NOT HAPPY right NOW…
Mark isn’t going to be patient….
Firing and hiring a man the same day is writing on the wall as far as I’m concerned!
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I hope he would be willing to make bold moves if need be.
I don’t want him to be “patient”.
We’ve been “patient” for a long time. If u have any chance at winning you go for it imo.
I’m not saying he should fire Reggie after 4 games but i’d to think Mark is committed to winning and he cares.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
and
to those of you paying attention
the easiest way to COMPLETELY change a team around is to land a game-changing QB.
Stafford, Luck, RGIII…
not exactly guys you can get if you keep going 7-9 or 8-8. Kinda have to REALLY tank to get a shot at a franchise-changer.
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Stafford, Luck , and RG3 don’t have Knapp calling their plays on Sunday….
Face it…the only game we won this season Carson called his own plays….FACT
October 8th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Goodness DT
you really think the Colts didn’t mind losing a few on purpose.
LOL, you really think the Colts front-office BELIEVED CURTIS PAINTER gave them their best chance at winning down the stretch?
Wonder why the Colts didn’t make lots of trades to turn their season around last year. Hmmm…
wow man, too naive.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Alex, I understand your points and see where you’re coming from, but i’m a fan and i wanna be entertained…now.
I’m gettin old.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
backstage
to keep this simple for you…
I think Knapp is not very good at his job.
I also think Manning made JIM CALDWELL look like an amazing coach. Philip Rivers makes Norv a winner most years.
Again, talent wins, not random OC’s.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
lol backstage
a game like this week’s does not MAKE or BREAK an organization.
Drafting Matt Ryan, or Andrew Luck, or hiring Jim Hargbaugh, or drafting Calvin Johnson AND Stafford…
those are the things that change an organization.
Some random upset…I’m sure the Browns and Dolphins have had those.
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I said they “CAN” make or break an organization….
and I disagree with you and your assessment:
“Drafting Matt Ryan, or Andrew Luck, or hiring Jim Hargbaugh, or drafting Calvin Johnson AND Stafford…”
Have any of these men won a Super Bowl Trophy?
I’m not concerned with just winning games….I want us to win it all….
These are the assessments I make when judging the GM and the staff….
Your goal seems to just be mentionable…worthy of being in the argument each year….
I’m looking for intangibles that we can build on for years….you seem to just want wins….
October 8th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
DJ
we all do. I hear you. Losing gets old.
But I would rather build something meaningful even if it takes two years…
than do what the REDSKINS did for 15 years and piece together fake all-star teams of fancy entertaining names but never build anything.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
ummm
backstage?
Organizations can’t control if they win a super bowl or not.
All they can do is make smart decisions, like drafting game-changers and hiring stud coaches…
put together a squad that makes the playoffs most years,
and hope for the best.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
backstage
to keep this simple for you…
I think Knapp is not very good at his job.
I also think Manning made JIM CALDWELL look like an amazing coach. Philip Rivers makes Norv a winner most years.
Again, talent wins, not random OC’s.
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Talent is not enough….not by a long shot…this isn’t 1985 anymore my friend….
Do you watch college football?
Have you seen some of the Offense’s and their tempo?
Have you watched New England this season?
Notice any similarities?
You have no idea how this sport is going to evolve….I DO….
I know where college football is going…and I know that the NFL is behind that curve….
You think that college football mimics the PRO’s? Think again….
Anyone who know anything about this sport knows the NFL coaches are DECADES behind the COLLEGE Scheme’s….
October 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
whether we upset Atlanta or not…
doesn’t change the fact we have very little talent on the roster.
Upsetting Atlanta doesn’t make our CBs suddenly more talented and worth keeping.
It doesn’t fix our decade-long stretch of bad drafts and lack of roster depth.
These things take time, and start with front-office decisions.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
ummm
backstage?
Organizations can’t control if they win a super bowl or not.
All they can do is make smart decisions, like drafting game-changers and hiring stud coaches…
put together a squad that makes the playoffs most years,
and hope for the best.
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Hope for the best….are you serious?
October 8th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
lol backstage
wtf are you talking about?
Talent wins at the NFL MORE than in the NCAA.
In the NCAA, gimmicks can even out the playing field a little.
In the NFL, where everyone has a salary cap, HOW YOU USE THAT CAP AND HOW MUCH TALENT YOU CAN CRAM onto the field makes ALL the difference.
Spurrier tried his college stuff in the NFL. Too smart and fast up here for that.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Patriots, Steelers, Packers
playoffs almost every year…
Brady, Ben, Rodgers
TALENT wins games. Notice the Steelers without Troy and Harrison this year? Same coaches.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Steelers without their TALENTED players? Not so good.
Same coaches, same system.
Ravens D without Suggs? Not that impressive.
Same coaches, same system.
TALENT.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Coach Allen Says:
Your arguments keep changing. The first silly one was that you measure a coach by whether his previous team misses him.
As if who the old team hires (perhaps an amazing hire) somehow reflects on the quality of the outgoing guy
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Coach Allen,
My argument is the same, a rookie GM gave a rookie coach the authority to hire whomever he wants. Both of them made mistakes. Both are in over their heads. Both will set this franchise back years. Personally, I can put up with Reggie more than DA. DA is pathetic. If you or anyone wants to change my mind…….WIN SOME GAMES!!!!!!
The sad pathetic part of this is that you have a point to some of your arguments. That if people look past all of your strange obsession with Al Davis, you actually have some merit to your arguments about how an organization should be run. But in between your years on this blog of multiple aliases, pathological hatred for a man you’ve never met and your deranged need for vindication that even the mans death wasn’t enough. Months ago when the new regime came in you had a moment of clarity. I won’t quote you exactly but you said that now you would have to defend the new regime because they are going to do everything that you had been arguing for. Well don’t get butt hurt because the results.
Do you realize that you just said that you would rather get beat down and get a first pick in the draft than be competitive and try to win? If that’s the new Raider way then you can have it. I personally think that we can take the things that were good about the old franchise and build on that. Without turning our back on tradition.
Sad part is I think that Dennis Allen probably thinks exactly the way you do. Top pick in draft here we come!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
whether we upset Atlanta or not…
doesn’t change the fact we have very little talent on the roster.
Upsetting Atlanta doesn’t make our CBs suddenly more talented and worth keeping.
It doesn’t fix our decade-long stretch of bad drafts and lack of roster depth.
These things take time, and start with front-office decisions.
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No, they do not take time….
Just look at the Oakland Athletics….I realize it is baseball but what about the 1998 St. Louis Rams….they finished 4-12….the next year won the Super Bowl with a QB who was un drafted….
How do you explain that?
If the Rams believed in your philosophy they would have been patient….
The truth is the RAMS that season did things their own way…..they didn’t follow suit and try to build like other organizations…..they had a plan….they believed in it….and executed that plan!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Colts without Manning last year?
Same coaches, same systems.
Uh oh. Talent.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
lol backstage
wtf are you talking about?
Talent wins at the NFL MORE than in the NCAA.
In the NCAA, gimmicks can even out the playing field a little.
In the NFL, where everyone has a salary cap, HOW YOU USE THAT CAP AND HOW MUCH TALENT YOU CAN CRAM onto the field makes ALL the difference.
Spurrier tried his college stuff in the NFL. Too smart and fast up here for that.
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Tell that to Harbaugh in SF….he out coaches people in the run game every week….and if he had a friggin punt returner would have won it all last year!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
May I remind you that ALEX SMITH is the 49ers QB!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Coach Allen,
We are not the Colts, your reaching! And besides the Colts have had the most #1 draft picks in NFL history and if you take away the Unitas and Manning years that franchise stinks! Still clueless, still pathetic Coach Allen.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
really backstage?
1998? Fluke injuries to QBs lead to Kurt Warner, who the coaches had soooooooo much faith in he was their 3rd stringer?
That fluke incredible find replacing Tony Banks and Trent Green is your example of not being patient?
Dude.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Keep it coming ALEX….I’m just getting warmed up!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Again,
do you see the up-and-coming Colts, Rams, or Redkins
making stupid trades for veterans while giving away 1st and 2nd rounders…
all so they can maybe win 1 or 2 more games THIS year?
Oh, they’re patient and waiting for about 2 more years down the road to keep building? I see.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Rams just lost their top WR.
Wonder if they’ll trade a 1st rounder for a veteran WR.
Why not? They should GO FOR BROKE! WIN NOW!!!!
or be smart.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
really backstage?
1998? Fluke injuries to QBs lead to Kurt Warner, who the coaches had soooooooo much faith in he was their 3rd stringer?
That fluke incredible find replacing Tony Banks and Trent Green is your example of not being patient?
Dude.
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I’ll argue that the Head Coach had total belief in Kurt Warner….once the injuries took place….maybe the Offensive Coordinator didn’t…but the Head Coach most certainly did….
My point is that the belief that things take time is BULLCHIT….
My point proves otherwise!
October 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Your once 15 years ago situation proves a point…
ok.
maybe statistical outliers isn’t your cup of tea.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3zCy98jZs
“We will rally around Kurt Warner and we will play good football”
-Dick Vermeil-
October 8th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Let’s see.
You are right. Rams are wrong for not trading a 1st round pick right now for a WR to replace their injured one and WIN NOW!
Colts are being DUMB by not trading future 1st rounders to WIN MORE GAMES now and acquire veterans.
Patriots are DUMB as they almost always trade present draft picks for future stock-piling, showing long-term vision instead of cramming as many picks each year to win the most now.
Chiefs should trade four 1st round picks to try and turn their season around, forget building on youth like Jamaal Charles and their all-pro safety…
October 8th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
So I guess the Rams, Colts, Raiders, and Dolphins are all ok with waiting another year or two to finally contend for a playoff spot,
knowing that completely rebuilding after a terrible season takes TIME, certainly more than one year.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:01 am
alex7 Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Your once 15 years ago situation proves a point…
ok.
maybe statistical outliers isn’t your cup of tea.
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Statistics tell a story…but they can tell “ANY” story any way you want to read it…
But lets get back on topic….the Raiders…
John Madden finishes 9-7 in 1978 and knows the Snake is about to be ending his career….so he bounces and retires as arguably the best Coach in history…
Then what happens…
The 1979 Raiders finished 9-7 with Tom Flores as a first year head Coach….
Then the next season Jim Plukett who was apparently washed up was brought in to save the day…
In 1980…Raiders win it all
October 9th, 2012 at 12:15 am
To argue lack of talent v. competent coach v. building for the future is a waste of time, to some extent.
To win at the highest level, is always driven by an intangible. The coach, staff or the players reach for something extra, and find it. Many times whether it’s chemistry, talent, perception of that which is obvious most cannot see it, it can’t be explained.
That is why most Superbowl winning teams fall apart in subsequent years, such as GB and the Saints. The reason they won remains a mystery they can’t identify, so it becomes like chasing a ghost. You have it once, then it is gone.
Raiders of course, are at a more mundane level, lacking talent and a comptetent staff.
The down fall of the Raiders was AD’s diseased mind which resulted in an obessive complusion in that he rejected any player (Marcus Allen) or staff member (Gruden) who gained more attention than him (AD).
I believe that AD is asserting dead hand control over the Raiders from the grave. That is why I say any vestige of Davis management must be purged from the team before the team can be successful
October 9th, 2012 at 12:45 am
If we can start to get some guys back from injury, then maybe we can go on a run here. DHB will be back this Sunday, maybe one of the corners, or Curry will come back too. The good news it that after the Atlanta game the schedule really loosens up.
With schedule lighter and some dudes returning from injury, who knows; maybe a run?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:34 am
Quote:
Turnovers come as a result of defense played at a fevered pitch, Allen said.
“We got to have 11 people flying around to the football, flying around like their hair’s on fire,” Allen said.
Translation:
If I see anyone jogging on a play from now on I’m going to bust their lazy a$$…..
October 9th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] come at a perfect time as it allowed the team to seek to make some major changes. more… Raiders eager for more takeaways – ibabuzz.com 10/08/2012 The Raiders are tied for last in the league in terms of turnovers on [...]
October 9th, 2012 at 5:15 am
Translation:
If I see anyone jogging on a play from now on I’m going to bust their lazy a$$…..
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If this was true, slolando would have a sore ass from riding the pine. Cut McClain and resign Stupar.
Speaking of cutting dead weight, when is the trade deadline?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Amazing
MR has become the voice of sanity in here
October 9th, 2012 at 6:11 am
SANITY !! IN HERE ??
October 9th, 2012 at 6:11 am
That ZBS for Houston looked pretty good last night.
What was that 170 rushing yards, on the road against a physical defense?
Not bad.
The issue isn’t the “system” it is who is teaching it and who is executing it.
Give it 5 years, and 75% of the league will be running some variation of the ZBS.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Amazing
MR has become the voice of sanity in here
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Both MR and Brien have become the wise elder statesmen of this blog.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:27 am
what about the 1998 St. Louis Rams….they finished 4-12….the next year won the Super Bowl with a QB who was un drafted….
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You’re leaving out the fact they traded for Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk.
Also they stumbled azz backwards through a series of flukes into one of the great QBs of his generation. How often does that happen?
Point me to a Hall of Fame RB in his prime that Reggie can trade for and an elite QB just hanging at the bottom of someone’s depth chart and your point might have the slightest validity.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Jesus fck, I’m beyond tired of this “TOM BRADY WAS A 6TH ROUDND DRAFT PICK AND KURT WARNER WAS UNDRAFTED HERP A DEE DERP WHY CAN’T REGGIE FIND HALL OF FAMERS IN THE 7TH ROUND” attitude
Those are once in a generation hits that those coaches/GMs never saw coming because otherwise they would’ve never lasted that long.
It’s like if your neighbor hits the Powerball and you never do. Is that really surprising? Sheesh.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Crazy that the Rams only had to give up a 2nd rounder for Faulk as well, fresh off a 2,000+ yards from scrimmage season.
People that think we could get a 1st round pick for McFadden are higher than Atari Bigby.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:33 am
This is kind of funny:
“Sh*t Oakland Raider fans say.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbt0iXgd-_k
October 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Kiwi_Blade Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:34 am
Quote:
Turnovers come as a result of defense played at a fevered pitch, Allen said.
“We got to have 11 people flying around to the football, flying around like their hair’s on fire,” Allen said.
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The only people I’ve seen with that quality are Wheeler and Burris and sometimes Houston.
Everyone else is too slow, too old, too injured or just plain sch!t.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
533.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
Both MR and Brien have become the wise elder statesmen of this blog.
hahaha MR I did not go that far
October 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
If anything, Knapp needs to leave his ego at the airport and let Carson run the no huddle a majority of the game.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
540.morilla Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
If anything, Knapp needs to leave his ego at the airport and let Carson run the no huddle a majority of the game.
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This, absolutely.
The offense never looked better than when Palmer was running it himself during the Steelers game.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkLeqmt5O0&feature=related
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This is also funny. Guy says Raider fans who dress up have turned Raider games into Phantom of the Opera or Rocky Horror Picture Show. Says fans need to go back to looking like Hell’s Angels and Ken Stabler.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
THE BRADY’S & WARNER’S ARE OUT THERE.ALWAYS HAVE BEEN,ALWAYS WILL BE.THEY NEVER “FLUKE” INTO PLAYING BECAUSE OF AN INJURY TO A STARTER / KEY PLAYER.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:41 am
543.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
THE BRADY’S & WARNER’S ARE OUT THERE.ALWAYS HAVE BEEN,ALWAYS WILL BE.THEY NEVER “FLUKE” INTO PLAYING BECAUSE OF AN INJURY TO A STARTER / KEY PLAYER.
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Kurt Warner only saw the field because Trent Green ripped his knee into a thousand pieces. That’s a fluke. Tom Brady only saw the field because Mo Lewis decapitated Drew Bledsoe.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:47 am
MY POINT EXACTLY..GOOD MORNING BY THE WAY.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Mo Lewis cost the Raiders a trip to the Super Bowl!
October 9th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Sorry, Dirt Lot, misunderstood ya! My bad. Need more coffee!
October 9th, 2012 at 6:53 am
546.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Mo Lewis cost the Raiders a trip to the Super Bowl!
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He’s the one that paid off Walt Coleman?
October 9th, 2012 at 6:56 am
IT’S ALL GOOD SNB.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Someone needs to inform the Texans that the ZBS sucks, and will not work.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I hope Reggie is on the phone with the Packers this morning working a DMac trade.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:15 am
551.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I hope Reggie is on the phone with the Packers this morning working a DMac trade.
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Too early. Not time yet.
Besides, the Packers use the ZBS.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Arian Foster is stupid, hasnt he been told yet about the ZBS?…that he cant succeed in it?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I think Matt Shaub should retire now,..that friggin ZBS,..they wont be able to move the ball, score, win,…I doubt they win a game all year,..Shaub should demand a trade, and if doesnt get one he should retire and flat out quit on his team if he doesnt get his way…oh wait,..who did that again?…
October 9th, 2012 at 7:24 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
540.morilla Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
If anything, Knapp needs to leave his ego at the airport and let Carson run the no huddle a majority of the game.
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This, absolutely.
The offense never looked better than when Palmer was running it himself during the Steelers game.
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It looked that way in the regular season game he ran it. It looked that way in the practice games when he ran it.
It also looked that when the few times Hue let him do it last year.
Plus CP himself sez its his favorite offense to run.
Knapp probably thinks its all just a coincidence… or more likely isn’t smart enough to even notice it.
He’s destroying this franchise single handedly (thus far this season)… and Allen is letting him do it.
Maybe things will change quickly, or Mark Davis will be looking at an empty stadium soon. I’m not holding my breath.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:27 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I think Matt Shaub should retire now,..that friggin ZBS,..they wont be able to move the ball, score, win,…I doubt they win a game all year,..Shaub should demand a trade, and if doesnt get one he should retire and flat out quit on his team if he doesnt get his way…oh wait,..who did that again?…
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The ZBS is not the main problem. The problem is Knapp not allowing CP to run the no-huddle offense, IMO.
When he ran it last year we were pretty much unstopable… why is it the only people that recognize this seems to be us fans?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:28 am
I can see why you guys all hate on poor ol Knapp,..I am disappointed as well,..I mean Christ, Greg should have paid more attention to what Kubiak was doing while he was fetching his coffee and fishwrap.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:37 am
How many points did we allow the bye to rack up on us?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:40 am
I don’t expect the Raiders to win the game, but if they keep it close, I”ll have hope for the rest of the season.
Opening points spread is Raiders +9. Thinking of taking a last leap of faith and putting a small wager on them to cover, even if I don’t think they will.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:41 am
“When you think about the Raiders, you think about Mr. Davis and what he meant, not only to this franchise, but to the NFL He’s an icon that surpassed, when you talk about leaving a legacy, he’ll always be remembered whether it’s the one-year or the 10-year, the century mark, decade mark, you’re always going to think about what it meant to put on the silver and black and just that mindset and mentality.” — defensive tackle Richard Seymour————————————————-
To tell you the truth, I don’t think many guys in the last decade truly know what it is to be a Raider, Dick included.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:44 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:40 am
I don’t expect the Raiders to win the game, but if they keep it close, I”ll have hope for the rest of the season.
Opening points spread is Raiders +9. Thinking of taking a last leap of faith and putting a small wager on them to cover, even if I don’t think they will.
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Basically the Raiders will either have a win like the Steelers game or just be flat out embarrased and lose by 3 TD’s- Write that down.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Raideraholic,
This game reeks of that doesn’t it? Miracle win or gigantic, humiliating loss on a 55-13 type scale.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I would be a very happy man to see the Texans being the lone undefeated team after this weekend.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Our biggest hope is this being a “trap game” for the Falcons.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Hate Ohio State but this is must watch half-time show!
http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/ohio-state-marching-band-goes-viral-incredible-video-220352964.html
October 9th, 2012 at 7:54 am
No wonder Al was so popular. Most of you think like him….until it doesn’t work. Patchwork hasn’t worked for 10 years! Trade McFadden, play Pryor, get rid of Reggie, Reggie’s incompetent, DA doesn’t know what he’s doing, shouldn’t have blown up the roster etc, etc, etc. What garbage. Chill out on the panic switch for crying out loud. Have you forgotten the end goal already? Winning super bowls. Reggie could have corked the leaks in last years team and fielded an 8-8, 9-7 team that may have made the playoffs in a weak division but at what cost? Battling the salary cap for the next 3 years? Trade away draft picks for vets? Pay out these ridiculous over inflated contracts to players who would maybe only start for half of the teams in the league? Al Davis did that for YEARS…DECADES which is why Oakland has been average or worse for the past 25 years minus gruden years (and even gruden yrs were short lived since the bottom fell out in ‘03)
You want to know what’s wrong with this team? Patching a severed leg with a band aid! Almost a decade of god awful,pathetic drafting lead to overpaid under acheivers that came at the expense of quality role players/backups, and a complete lack of accountability.
Out of the last 25 players Oakland drafted in the first 3 rounds (thats 9 years worth of impact round players- which should be the core of your team to be supplemented with FA’s)here are your results:
0 pro bowlers
2 bona fide leaguewide starters (McFadden/Veldheer)
5 players that would struggle to find the starting lineup on most NFL teams(Houston, McClain, DHB, Huff, Shaugnessy)
3 role players elsewhere (Routt, McQuistan, Z Miller) who start for the garbage chiefs and seahawks.
15 busts that are either on practice squads are out of the league
That’s a 2 out of 25 is an 8% hit rate. That’s gambling and losing. You could do better closing your eyes and arbitrarily pulling magnets off of the draft board.
So what do you do? Fill it with the best FA’s you can find which leads you to cap issues. In terms of cap. Here are some of the top earners that would have taken the field. Again supposedly impact players. Look at the fat…Routt, Wimbley, Curry, Kelly, McClain, DHB, and I hate to say it because I freakin love these guys but Jano and Lechler. I mean 8 mil tied up in kickers where avg salary is 900K. It does no good to spend that type of money on kickers when you’re losing games by 30. That’s like putting frosting on mud and calling it a cake.
Look all that I’m saying is that it had to be done. I had hope to but in hindsight. This year was over last year. There were too many cracks in a sinking ship and you can only use so many corks and so much duct tape. I’m not saying that Reggie isn’t Matt Millen. Time will tell. But this team has been lacking foundation for a long long time and when that foundation exists, that’s when you will see a 4-12 team turn into a contender in one year. It was time to salvage the resources that this franchise had, pull away from the battlefield, regroup, and come back and dominate.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:55 am
564.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Our biggest hope is this being a “trap game” for the Falcons.
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It’s possible.
I just don’t see how we can overcome throwing an out-of-position Michael Huff, Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson at Roddy White, Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez and hope to win, you know? Every time I come back to that.
The one hope is to sustain drives, eat up clock and keep the Falcon’s high-powered offense on the sidelines where they can’t score. Because they will score when on the field.
It’s now or never for the run game, basically.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:58 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:55 am
564.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Our biggest hope is this being a “trap game” for the Falcons.
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It’s possible.
I just don’t see how we can overcome throwing an out-of-position Michael Huff, Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson at Roddy White, Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez and hope to win, you know? Every time I come back to that.
The one hope is to sustain drives, eat up clock and keep the Falcon’s high-powered offense on the sidelines where they can’t score. Because they will score when on the field.
It’s now or never for the run game, basically.
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You took the words out of my mouth!
October 9th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I say sit Palmer and McFadden this game. Get them ready for the Jags. Start Pryor.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:41 am
To tell you the truth, I don’t think many guys in the last decade truly know what it is to be a Raider, Dick included.
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Actually, Seymour is emblematic of the Raiders over the last decade: big name, big $$$, a few highlight-reel plays that make us all thing he’s a star, and a lot of mediocre play the rest of the time.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Doesn’t matter how many time they turn the ball over, they can’t do anything with once they get it. Let’s concentrate on stopping the run/pass. Once you do that then worry about turning the ball over.
Same thing applies to 3rd down conversions, Play well enough to NOT get into 3rd and long. You can’t do that so why worry about how many times you are in 3rd and long. The reason you’re always in 3rd long is because Knapp can’t generate an offense.
Patience my a$$!
CODE PATIENCE!!! (I don’t think so!)
October 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Meanwhile, Sandusky was sentenced to 60 years in prison. He won’t be eligible for parole for 30 years, by which time he’d be 98. And he still denies doing anything, thus compounding his abuse by calling all of his victims liars.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
569.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I say sit Palmer and McFadden this game. Get them ready for the Jags. Start Pryor.
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Actually, that makes some sense. We probably have 2 chances at beating Atlanta…none and freaking none.
A team will rarely just wave the white flag so blatantly like that.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:21 am
If your defensive players can’t tackle the running back, then all other phases of defense will ultimately fail. Especially with practice squad CBs and second tier LBs. Focusing on ints should be, at best, a secondary concern for this team. Stopping Michael Turner and getting our DL to pressure Matt Ryan will rectify the situation much more than having cut-rate cornerbacks making bad choices in coverage trying to force turnovers and getting burned for TDs.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:23 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
569.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I say sit Palmer and McFadden this game. Get them ready for the Jags. Start Pryor.
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Actually, that makes some sense. We probably have 2 chances at beating Atlanta…none and freaking none.
A team will rarely just wave the white flag so blatantly like that.
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Seems like you are the one waving the white flag. Who gave us a chance to beat Pittsburgh? Only cowards quit before trying.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Having an all pro punter is a nice thing to have, but it should be way down on the priority list and addressed AFTER you have shored up other key areas. There are some good, qualified punters out there but what good is a punter if you can’t stop a team no matter where you pin ‘em.?
October 9th, 2012 at 8:30 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:32 am
R8eray Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Hate Ohio State but this is must watch half-time show!
http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/ohio-state-marching-band-goes-viral-incredible-video-220352964.html
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It’s THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY!!!
Best team
Best band
And best state in the entire world!
O
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O
OHIO!!
Go Buckeyes!
Damn you Mich!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Good Morning ODB.
Green Party Rules!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Marquez King will turn around our fortunes!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Atlanta scored twice during that q&a
October 9th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Looks like my early prediction of the Raiders and Jets both flopping, and us trading Carson to the Jets is rounding into shape.
I believe this will happen next offseason, maybe a month before the draft.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:36 am
I would say pull out all the trick plays this week, but Knapp probably doesn’t have any.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Jets won’t trade for Palmer. They might as well just roll with Tebow.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
We have the tj reverse
October 9th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
We have the tj reverse
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Oh yeah. I forgot about that one. That’s a classic.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Chaz made himself easy not to miss after last night. Love that onside kick go right thru his hands!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
You guys ready for our midseason playoff push??
October 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
575,
Just win baby, I never predict scores of games cuz it’s impossible for me to be objective when it comes to Raider games.
I shouldn’t say they have NO CHANCE at beating Atlanta but the sound, pragmatic side of me is having trouble seeing how that could possibly happen.
Atlanta is 5-0 and on a tear. They are better than Denver imo. even in the passing game.
I guarantee you if we beat Atlanta, i’ll be doing back flips and cartwheels of happiness, but this is one of those games where it looks like we have no freaking chance.
I was holding out hope that DA was gonna take the comparisons to Hue Jackson and the beatdown from his former team and say “enuff is enuff, i’m gonna show everybody that I know what i’m doing” and then emerge from his 4 day stint in the film room and say..
“we are gonna make some adjustments that give us the best chance to win”, but instead after a complete A-Z inventory of the first 4 games and the players responsible he concludes it just comes down to “execution”?
I’m not waving any white flag, but i have never been anticipating a football game where it looks this unlikely we can win it.
If we do, i will be the happiest guy in here.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
I’m not waving any white flag, but i have never been anticipating a football game where it looks this unlikely we can win it.
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I guess you weren’t around for the Jamarcus era lol
October 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Sanchise is bs.. bad deal
October 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Maybe Allen should fake an illness this weak to get the team motivated.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:45 am
589
Good post.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I just tried to talk myself into scenario’s where the Raiders could be competitive in the 2nd half with Jamarcus.
Kind of like watching U of New Mexico football!!!!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Maybe Allen should fake an illness this weak to get the team motivated.
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too soon, too soon.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Beating them will be easy
Take the crowd out of the game by creating turnovers and scoring more points then they do.
Raiders 37
sparrows 35
October 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Beating them will be easy
Take the crowd out of the game by creating turnovers and scoring more points then they do.
Raiders 37
sparrows 35
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That is quite the Chris Berman observation lol
October 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
You guys ready for our midseason playoff push??
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
That’s funny. Too early to start drinking, no?
October 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
This is the week that will make the nfl boring to me until the playoffs… i just dont give a shìt about the other teams. ill just watch the raider games then go fishing..
October 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
From PFT power rankings:
2. Falcons: When it was time for the Redskins to pick their poison, they opted for slow, gradual death via aging Hall of Fame tight end.
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I say try and take away the short stuff and the running game and let Ryan go down field. He would probably still kill us, but percentages go down with long passes.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Raiders #30 in power rankings.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Career day for matt ryan
October 9th, 2012 at 8:56 am
2 tds for gonzalez
October 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Marks hair Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
This is the week that will make the nfl boring to me until the playoffs… i just dont give a shìt about the other teams. ill just watch the raider games then go fishing..
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exactly
October 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Copycat falcons gonna wear black?
October 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raider On High Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
We easily could have 7-8 super bowls, but the leagues conspirators saw to it that it did not happen.
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Good grief. Enough with the paranoia.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Marks hair Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Copycat falcons gonna wear black?
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Didn’t they start wearing them when Hammer was on the sideline. 2 legit to quit lol
October 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Why we win-we are able to run the ball and keep time of possession in our favor. Only game DMAC runs for 100 yds, we win against Pittsburgh…need another big game out of him.
Defense will be in for a long day, as long as that Falcons offense if on the field.
Raiders 30 Falcons 28
October 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Erric Pegram
Andre Rison
Mike Haynes
Drew Hill
Billy Joe Tolliver
Bobby Hebert
Chrystal Chandelier
Ah, The early 90’s Falcons
October 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
so who wins the battle, Julio or Joselio?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:05 am
In who’s the tiniest battle?
Joselio
October 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
so who wins the battle, Julio or Joselio?
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Julio’s name is smaller therefore he is more aerodynamic/quicker.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raider On High Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
We easily could have 7-8 super bowls, but the leagues conspirators saw to it that it did not happen.
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Good grief. Enough with the paranoia.
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Paranoia?!?!
Immaculate deception?!?!
Tuck rule?!?!?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Morning Nation,
and I gave you a story that will make your eyes water…http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19863795
October 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
NFL football has emerged as more than just a sport. The fan rivalries add so much to the whole thing.
Go into any sports bar in the midwest on Sunday during the season and you’ll see guys dressed up in their teams colors and ready to go to war.
You have the table with the Pitt. guys, then there’s the Packer tables, then Dallas has their little section with their Romo and Witten jerseys, then the Bears with the Cutler and Urlacher jerseys.
It’s a battle…and that’s a big part of the fun. Our identities get wrapped up in who “our team” is and when we win it’s as if we personally contributed to it, and if we lose and get humiliated..it’s like we somehow had a part in it as well.
Even in the midwest there used to be a Raider section along with the others…you’ll still see the occasional 3 or 4 guys come in with the McFadden jerseys…or even a Gannon or Tim Brown one, but it’s sad that its the Raider section that has to be the one to suffer the most.
This is where this whole “patience” thing gets hard to accept.
It’s just one of many reasons actually.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19863795
October 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkLeqmt5O0&feature=related
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never understood the dressing up in costume stuff and ppl line up to take pics with them
October 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
If its a PO game, and you see the refs huddling, you should know we are about to get screwed.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
NFL football has emerged as more than just a sport. The fan rivalries add so much to the whole thing.
Go into any sports bar in the midwest on Sunday during the season and you’ll see guys dressed up in their teams colors and ready to go to war.
You have the table with the Pitt. guys, then there’s the Packer tables, then Dallas has their little section with their Romo and Witten jerseys, then the Bears with the Cutler and Urlacher jerseys.
It’s a battle…and that’s a big part of the fun. Our identities get wrapped up in who “our team” is and when we win it’s as if we personally contributed to it, and if we lose and get humiliated..it’s like we somehow had a part in it as well.
Even in the midwest there used to be a Raider section along with the others…you’ll still see the occasional 3 or 4 guys come in with the McFadden jerseys…or even a Gannon or Tim Brown one, but it’s sad that its the Raider section that has to be the one to suffer the most.
This is where this whole “patience” thing gets hard to accept.
It’s just one of many reasons actually.
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foward this post to Amy,Reggie, and Mark.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Knapp “we showed some progress, be patient”
DA “we as coaches can do a little better, but at the end of the day players need to make plays”
you feel better?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:16 am
613.Raider O Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raider On High Says:
October 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
We easily could have 7-8 super bowls, but the leagues conspirators saw to it that it did not happen.
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Good grief. Enough with the paranoia.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Paranoia?!?!
Immaculate deception?!?!
Tuck rule?!?!?
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Don’t forget the “Lytle fumble” which was probably the most obvious bogus call of em all.
Tatums helmet hits DIRECTLY onto the ball as Lytle is jumping to score and the ball comes out and Raiders recover. I still don’t know how they let Denver keep it, or what explanation they gave. It’s like they just decided to ignore that it happened and wished it away so that Denver could go to the SB.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Raider O Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Paranoia?!?!
Immaculate deception?!?!
Tuck rule?!?!?
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And every other long-tenured franchise has had similar cruddy calls. Ask a Seahawks fan about that Super Bowl, for instance.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
588.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
You guys ready for our midseason playoff push??
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Heh, how would that work?
Lose to Atlanta, Baltimore & New Orleans, win every other game & hope to snag a 10-6 wild card?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Paranoia?!?!
Immaculate deception?!?!
Tuck rule?!?!?
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I try not to think ’bout it but we still get the $hitty end of the stick with some calls.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Don’t forget the “Lytle fumble” which was probably the most obvious bogus call of em all.
Tatums helmet hits DIRECTLY onto the ball as Lytle is jumping to score and the ball comes out and Raiders recover. I still don’t know how they let Denver keep it, or what explanation they gave. It’s like they just decided to ignore that it happened and wished it away so that Denver could go to the SB.
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Very overlooked sch!tty call when the subject of sch!tty calls come up.
Denver somehow escaping the Steelers, Raiders and Oilers that year is a fcking farce. One of those fluke teams that annoys the pizz out of me.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:20 am
neilb Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19863795
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Now that is what we Kneed(pun intended)
That guy has some BALL!!!!
October 9th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkLeqmt5O0&feature=related
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He should probaly stay out of Oakland for a few years lol kinda funny though
October 9th, 2012 at 9:22 am
You guys ready for our midseason playoff push??
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We don’t need to win every game.We just need denver,san diego and kansas to lose all thiers.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:23 am
DJ,
I forgot about that one.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I’m waiting on the cable guy. He has 35 more minutes to show up. I hate these f*ckers.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:39 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkLeqmt5O0&feature=related
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He should probaly stay out of Oakland for a few years lol kinda funny though
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He did say he would never go to a Raider game dressed in the other team’s colors.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I’ll bite.What happens after 35 mins?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:31 am
All 3 other teams losing during our bye was huge.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Neilb Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I’ll bite.What happens after 35 mins?
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I’m going to blast his ass with my AK.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:38 am
You dont play teams fairly even in the first half of games and then get blown out in the second half cause your doing your job as a coach.
Well said….good NFL teams FINISH games!!! DA says “we as coaches can do a little better”? Was DA at the Donko game??? This is professional football Dennis, put your best playmakers on the field and coach your asses off! Raider fans deserve a hell of alot more!!
October 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Joetoronto Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:31 am
All 3 other teams losing during our bye was huge.
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True. Actually…looking at the entire AFC…as bad as our Raids have been, they’re just 1 game back of the 2nd wildcard seed as of right now. Pathetic for the AFC. NFC has been whipping on this conference. Outside of Houston, not very impressive in the AFC thus far.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Did everyone see the Brian Cushing injury?
Do you think they should change the rules so that an oline blocking down field shouldn’t be able to dive/roll unto a players knees like that?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:53 am
AFC West worst division in NFL.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I think the Patriots are better than the Texans. They are probably the only team that can compete with the NFC in the Super Bowl.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Dutch – I never liked the diving at the knees. Bad news. Just asking for career ending injuries.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
“I wouldn’t have believed it,” Huff said.
Yawn.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Reggie is a fat fkn chinken wing eating chimp.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I think the Patriots are better than the Texans. They are probably the only team that can compete with the NFC in the Super Bowl.
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True, best offense right there. They can compete for sure, tho I’d rather the Texans take it.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Raiders fans here are accused of being ‘knee jerk’ or “selfish” for wanting to see a competitive team NOW and not have to be “patient” for a time we MAY be competitive a few yrs. down the road.
I see these pressers from DA and Knapp and they are RARELY challenged on anything.
These guys are lucky. Chicago, Philly, even Pittsburgh media would be roasting these guys and challenging them every step of the way.
It’s like the Bay Area media is scared to ask any questions that may upset them.
They are banking on Raiders fans being “accepting” of what they are dealing with, and alot of Raiders fans comply with a nod of understanding.
DA would not have it this easy in those other markets.
Those other org’s do things to appease the fan base..however “meatball” that fanbase might be.
It’s just the way society is in general and football fans in particular…we wanna win now and it’s hard to understand why we can’t when we see all these other org’s do whatever is necessary on a yearly basis to give their fans a winner.
Those org’s appreciate their fans and do whatever they can to return the favor.
I get that there is some rebuilding to be done…every org. has to do that to some degree on occasion, but there’s no reason that they can’t stay at least competitive while it’s happening, and not give us humiliating and embarrsassing drubbings on a regular basis either.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Does knapp knows that the teams tape is avialable on line for everyone to see. Maybe he should by a membership to the texans tape since he is trying to run the same ofence im sure he could learn afew things maybe even steal some plays Mcfadden can run just as hard as foster.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:05 am
zzzzzzzzz
Is it draft day yet?
October 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
F*ck Comcast.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
How could anybody think this d would be top 5? … what an àsshole
October 9th, 2012 at 10:16 am
We evaluated all this week and dicovered…nothing
October 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
The worst thing that could happen this week is a win.. just loose out and get the top pick.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
How could anybody think this d would be top 5? … what an àsshole
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LOL. never though of it that way. Huffy has always been an optimist, he thinks he is a play here and there away from becoming Rod Woodson.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
637.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Did everyone see the Brian Cushing injury?
Do you think they should change the rules so that an oline blocking down field shouldn’t be able to dive/roll unto a players knees like that?
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It’s like that Bernard Pollard guy on Baltimore. You’ll never convice me that he doesn’t intentionally try and injure players’ legs, ankles and knees.
By some strange coincidence, he is the same guy who injured Bradys ankle and knocked him out for more than a few games by rolling over on him, then did the same thing to Welker, and THEN the same thing to Gronkowski.
On the Gronkowski play he pulls him down and then does this unneccessary thing where he grabs the lower legs and brings him down and then rolls over with all his weight over the already twisted lower legs.
I don’t know if this is endorsed by John Harbaugh, but it can’t be coincidence that it just happens to be the same guy (Pollard) who is involved in these injuries that knock guys out for multiple games.
Then, this same Pollard guy is on camera complaining about the integrity of the game and how the replacement refs are putting guys “at risk” of injury.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Bernard Pollard ran DMAC down in the KC game where DMAC got the friggin turf toe and ruined DMACs career. (well that may be too dramatic, Knapp ruined DMACs career.)
October 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
649.Marks hair Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:16 am
We evaluated all this week and dicovered…nothing
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Amazing isn’t it?
No wonder you want us to lose out to get the top pick.
You’re demoralized when your HC doesn’t even notice what is so obvious to the rest of us.
“We just need to execute better. Rolando is fine and gives the maximum effort out there.”
“Plus, he scares the hell out of me and i’m afraid to bench him. Just like I’m afraid to tell Seymour to do anything he doesn’t wanna do”.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
We evaluated all this week and dicovered…nothing
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Well, they discovered that they as coaches could PROBABLY do a LITTLE better job…..But not ALOT better.
And that it’s inconceivable that they’re not creating turnovers.
Don’t NEED anymore help; player wise….
And they need to practice more 3rd down scenarios. Might as well practice 3rd and long all Fu*ing practice…..
I’m feeling sour today.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Man, I like that Texans team. tough o-line, mean d-line… these kids will be tough to beat in the playoffs…
October 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
The first step in making improvements is acknowledging weakness. I love the way this kid takes responsibility and im glad to hear him say he will dial it down and go back to basics. watching newton this year i can see that he has put far to much pressure on himself to live up to the “super cam ” hype. This kind of honesty and desire to be the best is what will make take him from great play maker to great player. Cam needs to take what the defense gives and be willing to let other offensive players carry the load. he must now become a game manger, as teams are dong everything they can to keep him from being the play maker he was last year.
“The Bible says that God won’t put more on a person than a person can bear, so I’m going to learn from this,” Newton said. “I’m humbled by this, and I’m going to come back and get better.
“I haven’t been playing good football, so I know what I’m going to do. I’m going to try and get better with each and every opportunity I’m given. This bye week is going to be an excellent opportunity for me to hone in, go back to fundamentals -my technique in throwing the football, the reads in the offense – and come back and get prepared for the next opponent.” – cam newton
October 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Ok so we pretty much have it ironed out that the talent on the team is a lot like last year, minus a couple players (Bush and Satele big losses). The difference is last year with a mediocre roster (without DMC and JC) we had a chance to clinch a playoff birth up to the last game!! THE REASON: I’m over Hue at this point, I know he’s not coming back..But the guy took chances, he was cocky! Fake punts, fake field goals, going for 30yds when we needed 3, he used his talent to the fullest!! If we want to have a shot at the playoffs this year we have to have some BALLZZZ!! Knapp’s gotta call games like he did against PITT, our DEFENSE plays better when we SCORE POINTS! Go figure. We have a shot at Atlanta, a long shot, but I’m not giving up yet!
October 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
I LOVE THIS KID!!!!! HE IS THE ANTI JAMAYO!!!!
As a life long raider fan, admitted Al davis worshiper, and native east oakland resident i want this kid to succeed in the worst way. he wants it more than we do, and that is a great sign.
he cares about the legacy of al davis, and he does not want to discredit or disgrace or dishonor the legend or the raider history.
I am so glad Al davis had the foresight to grab this mercurial talent, and i cant wait until he gets onto the field.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I see these pressers from DA and Knapp and they are RARELY challenged on anything
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I wish Romo was a writer. But even if they were challenged and even if they discovered they need to change some things up, it aint like they are gonna tell the media anyway.
Yeah “we discovered the ZBS isn’t very eaffective and we are gonna do more of a power scheme.” We will know Sunday and not before
October 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
I LOVE THIS KID!!!!! HE IS THE ANTI JAMAYO!!!!
As a life long raider fan, admitted Al davis worshiper, and native east oakland resident i want this kid to succeed in the worst way. he wants it more than we do, and that is a great sign.
he cares about the legacy of al davis, and he does not want to discredit or disgrace or dishonor the legend or the raider history.
I am so glad Al davis had the foresight to grab this mercurial talent, and i cant wait until he gets onto the field.
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Deffinetly an ideal outcome i would love, Pryor holding the Lombardi trophy and thanking AL…Perfect
October 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
LOVE THIS KID!!!!! HE IS THE ANTI JAMAYO!!!!
As a life long raider fan, admitted Al davis worshiper, and native east oakland resident i want this kid to succeed in the worst way. he wants it more than we do, and that is a great sign.
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He’s got everything we could possibly ask for out of a young Raider QB……EXCEPT consistant passing.
DAMNIT PRYOR…..WE WANT YOU TO BE THAT GUY. FIND A WAY….
Don’t know if he can.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
STFU
October 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
trolling
October 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Mistic
October 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
“All I can say is, I’m going to make him proud as his last pick. I’m getting better every day. I know he’s looking down scheming over the Raiders because he loved football. All I know is, I’m going to make him proud and I’m going to be exactly what he thought I was going to be.” — quarterback Terrelle Pryor
I LOVE THIS KID!!!!! HE IS THE ANTI JAMAYO!!!!
As a life long raider fan, admitted Al davis worshiper, and native east oakland resident i want this kid to succeed in the worst way. he wants it more than we do, and that is a great sign.
he cares about the legacy of al davis, and he does not want to discredit or disgrace or dishonor the legend or the raider history.
I am so glad Al davis had the foresight to grab this mercurial talent, and i cant wait until he gets onto the field.
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doesnt seem like the new regime cares much. i’m quite sure we all want to see him in some capacity but by him being tied to AD and not even being activated seems they wanna move on and its a shame this guy COULD BE our next superstar.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
doesnt seem like the new regime cares much. i’m quite sure we all want to see him in some capacity but by him being tied to AD and not even being activated seems they wanna move on and its a shame this guy COULD BE our next superstar.
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Don’t think they’re overlooking him, they know they have a talent in Pryor, they’re gonna let him marinate for a couple more years.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
TP!!
October 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
I think it is clear that Dmac is not the leader of the offense, and NEVER HAS BEEN. Dmac took his cue last year from the now departed JC. i said as much but everyone wanted to give dmac the creidt for every win he played in, and completely ignore the qb’s role. Now the evidence clearly shows who was the driving force behind our success last year and it was not dmac.
Talking to other locals here in oakland on friday night about 95% of the fans i spoke with said these three things:
1. The team lack leadership
2. The team misses and needed JC, he was the back bone the glue, the leader.
3.carson palmer has been a major disappointment, both for his uneven play, (mainly last year) and his inability to inspire team mates or lead them to performance or wins.
This was the take of 95% of the other authentic oakland residents and fans at the 3 different bars I stopped into.
what a trip
October 9th, 2012 at 10:47 am
doesnt seem like the new regime cares much. i’m quite sure we all want to see him in some capacity but by him being tied to AD and not even being activated seems they wanna move on and its a shame this guy COULD BE our next superstar.
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You don’t think that it is a matter of priority? Seems like they have a lot of problems…not only trying to fix what was broken, but fix what was working and then they broke (running game). They just might not have the hands to properly develop Prior…which is sad.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
RGIII+Cam+Russell Wilson 6 wins 9 losses
Ponder+Tannehill+Luck 8 wins 6 losses
is the “new wave” of qb’s athletic white guys?
Had to do it
October 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Cam Newton was absolutely TERRIBLE in their last game. On the last play he had a guy opened in the endzone and threw it right into the dirt 3 feet in front of himself. His entire team walked off in disgust.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
HE IS THE ANTI JAMAYO!!!!
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Indeed he is. Like the kid’s attitude.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
RGIII+Cam+Russell Wilson 6 wins 9 losses
Ponder+Tannehill+Luck 8 wins 6 losses
is the “new wave” of qb’s athletic white guys?
Had to do it
Seymour Bush Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Cam Newton was absolutely TERRIBLE in their last game. On the last play he had a guy opened in the endzone and threw it right into the dirt 3 feet in front of himself. His entire team walked off in disgust.
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Cam will be fine, he was terribly inaccurate but it was simply an off game. i have seen every one from monatna to brady to manning suffer through an off day.
he will be fine.
Comparing wins and racial make up?
I dont get it.
wilson tannheill ponder play on decent teams that can challenge for playoff spots.
RG III and Cam and luck play for awful teams and if you remove them from the line up they are bottom feeders.
These are very young players and will have ups and downs, just like every other qb that has ever played pro football.
Not sure why you would expect them to do anything else really….weird
October 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Not buying the Palmer lack of leadership though. JC would also struggle mightily behind this Oline. Fix the blocking, then we’ll know more. In fact, pretty impressive Palmer hasn’t forced balls more than he has out of frustration, etc.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:07 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Not buying the Palmer lack of leadership though.
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Thank you. No offense but anyone that would say that is a full on idiot.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Comparing wins and racial make up?
I dont get it.
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nobody of any color in here believes you mean that statment, that’s hilarious
October 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Not buying the Palmer lack of leadership though. JC would also struggle mightily behind this Oline. Fix the blocking, then we’ll know more. In fact, pretty impressive Palmer hasn’t forced balls more than he has out of frustration, etc.
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you may not buy it, but that is what the locals were saying friday.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Comparing wins and racial make up?
I dont get it.
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nobody of any color in here believes you mean that statment, that’s hilarious
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I couldnt give two squirts of pizz about what you or any other idiot thinks here honestly.
Beside you were the one that posted this racist trash, so it is you that has a race hate issue.
“RGIII+Cam+Russell Wilson 6 wins 9 losses
Ponder+Tannehill+Luck 8 wins 6 losses
is the “new wave” of qb’s athletic white guys?”
October 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am
wilson tannheill ponder play on decent teams that can challenge for playoff spots.
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minnesota miami and indy were crap last year, qb play is the biggest difference for all three. minny already had a good d and adrian, miami good d and reggie, indy just was horrid. You’ve been calling rgIII cam and Russell part of the wave of the future oddly leaving out tannehill ponder or even luck who’s obviously been a super high athletic qb recruit and now you’re stunned at my comparison based on race. Own up to failure to scout
October 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
If Raider fan wants to criticize someone, put a tape in the game from last night. What I saw was a RB wearing #23 that ran hard, ran through tacklers and busted gains. What I see on our team is a guy wearing #20 who either dives into a pile or goes down on lst contact. That’s the difference in the Raider offense right there.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
you may not buy it, but that is what the locals were saying friday.
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It’s funny but I heard the exact same thing the last few days from the locals. But I don’t think any of them actually watch the games tho.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Comparing wins and racial make up?
I dont get it.
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nobody of any color in here believes you mean that statment, that’s hilarious
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i dont compare players based on race
You and others that are threatned by the idea of black leadership cant stomach the idea of black qbs this is why you are fixated on drawing racial lines.
Dont worry black people will never treat others the way we have been treated in amerikkka or around the world.
As the fathers of humanity we will never bring harm to our children, including those from north central or south amerikkka
October 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am
wilson tannheill ponder play on decent teams that can challenge for playoff spots.
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minnesota miami and indy were crap last year, qb play is the biggest difference for all three. minny already had a good d and adrian, miami good d and reggie, indy just was horrid. You’ve been calling rgIII cam and Russell part of the wave of the future oddly leaving out tannehill ponder or even luck who’s obviously been a super high athletic qb recruit and now you’re stunned at my comparison based on race. Own up to failure to scout
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Do you worship or fear white poeple so much that you cant have a discussion without including them?
Do you fear your conqueror to the point that you look to challenge anyone that doesnt also fear your former master?
You have an issue bra.
i dont need permission or approval from anyone to admire players.
LoL…. upset because I didnt talk up enough white qb’s?!?!
If you were paying attention I had Luck number 2 on my draft board, and have already stated a million times that I think he is a fantastic talent.
sounds like you have a cortez complex
October 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
ASK MY OPINION ON MCKENZIE/ALLEN NEXT MAY.AFTER A FULL SEASON AND ANOTHER DRAFT.IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE A COP-OUT,SO BE IT..
October 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
672.Seymour Bush Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Cam Newton was absolutely TERRIBLE in their last game. On the last play he had a guy opened in the endzone and threw it right into the dirt 3 feet in front of himself. His entire team walked off in disgust.
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What’s funny is that overzealous offensive lineman on Carolina taking out a full page ad in the newspaper GUARANTEEING Panthers win the Super Bowl.
Care to revise that one dypschiytt?
October 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Good Morning you sick pathetic low lifes
ATL biggest weaknesses are pass protection and run D.
Lets get a signature road win in an eastern time zone.
2-3, hosting JAX.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Do you worship or fear white poeple so much that you cant have a discussion without including them?
Do you fear your conqueror to the point that you look to challenge anyone that doesnt also fear your former master?
You have an issue bra.
i dont need permission or approval from anyone to admire players.
LoL…. upset because I didnt talk up enough white qb’s?!?!
If you were paying attention I had Luck number 2 on my draft board, and have already stated a million times that I think he is a fantastic talent.
sounds like you have a cortez complex
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you can try to deflect attention away from your shortcomings but the fact is the qb’s that you are constantly slobbering over are black. Russell Wilson, RGIII, JC, Troy Smith, Joe Webb, shoot now you’re quoting Cam Newton you have on Carolina panties on too? You say they’re the new wave OBVIOUSLY referring your idea that black qb’s are taking over because if you weren’t referring to black qb’s you would have thrown Andrew Luck in your obsessive raving as he’s obviously at least as athletic as Russell freakin Wilson but you choose not to mention him in your “new wave” argument. It takes a man to own up to his mistakes but you’re obviously gonna be a stubborn little boy continuing to make the same mistakes the rest of your life as long as it means staying true to your original incorrect arguments. Sorry to break it to you but black qb’s aren’t taking over. There will be more of them and there will be better and better black qb’s but there will always be good white qb’s as well. It’s the same as me saying white DE’s are the “new wave”, i mean just look at jj watt and clay matthews? that’d be stupid just like you’re stupid for the way you think.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
julio jones and roddy white vs our db’s? hmmm sounds like a massacre about to happen. matt rayan will have time to throw as the raiders dont have a pass rush.
Under rated is the atl defense, they will cause big problems fro carson as they do they amoeba defense, and dont tip their hand as to what defense they are going to play.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
I sure miss AC’s intensity on the field. Gell well soon sir.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
reggie is watching tape of gb neverbeens from 5 years ago….
meanwhile….other teams are winning.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I think OAK can win this game, much more confident than Denver, I knew Denver would route us inside.
ATL will not be throwing all over us because Turner can pound the ball on our run D early. The question is, who guards Gonzalez on 3rd downs and goaline?
McFadden will have a 100+ game running and a solid rec. game too.
The panthers have a terrible D line, only 1 rusher (charles johnson) he still got 4 sacks on ryan when all that line had to do was double him.
have some faith btiches.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:53 am
ATL is ranked 27th outta the league in rushing D.
It would be an ideal time to wake up the beast in DMAC. Oline needs to set the tone for this one, and create cut back lanes.
Thats the only way I see us having a chance this weekend.
We need to get the run game going and control the clock, in order to keep that high flying offense off the field.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
If Raider fan wants to criticize someone, put a tape in the game from last night. What I saw was a RB wearing #23 that ran hard, ran through tacklers and busted gains. What I see on our team is a guy wearing #20 who either dives into a pile or goes down on lst contact. That’s the difference in the Raider offense right there.
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Not to mention all the times he has run out of bounds to avoid contact instead of fighting for extra yards.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Do you worship or fear white poeple so much that you cant have a discussion without including them?
Do you fear your conqueror to the point that you look to challenge anyone that doesnt also fear your former master?
You have an issue bra.
i dont need permission or approval from anyone to admire players.
LoL…. upset because I didnt talk up enough white qb’s?!?!
If you were paying attention I had Luck number 2 on my draft board, and have already stated a million times that I think he is a fantastic talent.
sounds like you have a cortez complex
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you can try to deflect attention away from your shortcomings but the fact is the qb’s that you are constantly slobbering over are black. Russell Wilson, RGIII, JC, Troy Smith, Joe Webb, shoot now you’re quoting Cam Newton you have on Carolina panties on too? You say they’re the new wave OBVIOUSLY referring your idea that black qb’s are taking over because if you weren’t referring to black qb’s you would have thrown Andrew Luck in your obsessive raving as he’s obviously at least as athletic as Russell freakin Wilson but you choose not to mention him in your “new wave” argument.
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You are pathetic. I will not allow you to speak for me or change my viewpoint to fit your agenda
i have never in my life said the “black qb’s are the wave of the future”. Please produce something that backs this claim or you will just be shown to be a liar, with giant insecurities.
i dont need to explain what i meant by “wave of the future” again for the 19th millionth time. I have never used race as a qualifier, but you clearly do.Im not sure why you want to make this about race all of the time, but it really does sound like a major cortez complex. You have been so conditioned that anyone that doesnt mention enough white qb’s for your liking instantly causes you to act like a field slave informant?
i post this morning about cam and tp6, you jump in with race.
pull yourself together, I DONT HAVE TO FEAR WHITE FOLKS THE WAY YOU DO!!!
If that bothers you TOO FUGGIN BAD. Free up and do you, dont worry about me…. im already free
October 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
for all the texaints lovers out there steroid brian cushing has a torn acl….
October 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:53 am
ATL is ranked 27th outta the league in rushing D.
It would be an ideal time to wake up the beast in DMAC. Oline needs to set the tone for this one, and create cut back lanes.
Thats the only way I see us having a chance this weekend.
We need to get the run game going and control the clock, in order to keep that high flying offense off the field.
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this is a bit skewed.
You will not be able to beat the falcons consistently by running the ball, unless you can score td’s doing so. Running between the twenties and kicking filed goals is a recipe for disaster against the quick strike falcons offense.
teams have to throw to keep up with the falcons offensive onslaught, thereby reducing the impact of their rush defense.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Do you worship or fear white poeple so much that you cant have a discussion without including them?
Do you fear your conqueror to the point that you look to challenge anyone that doesnt also fear your former master?
You have an issue bra.
i dont need permission or approval from anyone to admire players.
LoL…. upset because I didnt talk up enough white qb’s?!?!
If you were paying attention I had Luck number 2 on my draft board, and have already stated a million times that I think he is a fantastic talent.
sounds like you have a cortez complex
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You say they’re the new wave OBVIOUSLY referring your idea that black qb’s are taking over ” Sorry to break it to you but black qb’s aren’t taking over.
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wow what a dumbass
where have i ever said “black qb’s are taking over”?
I have never said anything like it. this is what you saw whenever I posted and the qb happened to be black.
Again that says far more about your own fragile psyche, and condition of mental enslavement than anything else.
the affects of white supremacy run deep
October 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DMAC…
Good day Mr President !!
GreenParty rules !!
October 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I think our horrible Oline gets their schit together FINALLY.
DMAC will run for at least 100 yds in this game.
Yeah, I’m sipping the koolaid and chasing it w/ some goose and a fat ass blunt.
Any given Sunday suckas!
October 9th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DMAC…
Good day Mr President !!
GreenParty rules !!
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ODB in da house!!!!!!!!
What up brother?!
Green Party is da schit.
Green team (A’s) wins 2day.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Yeah, I’m sipping the koolaid and chasing it w/ some goose and a fat ass blunt.
Any given Sunday suckas!
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??? Sunday ??? sounds like EVERY day for me !!!
October 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Yeah, I’m sipping the koolaid and chasing it w/ some goose and a fat ass blunt.
Any given Sunday suckas!
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??? Sunday ??? sounds like EVERY day for me !!!
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Me 2, i was reffering to any team can win Sunday.
lol
October 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
TUES BLOG JAM N FULL EFFECT
What up Blog Brahs, this might sound a little strange, but I soaked the Beeech Lawg in a banana smoothie this morning and I think he might’ve grown an extra .5 inches
I read that the potassium in a banana has increased size in tests done on African tribesman
Now I just gotta stick ‘lil homie in a warm cup of tea to thaw him out
Yo, looks like J-Hill’s got a bad disc, that might mean my homie Robert Sacre’s gonna step up as Dwight’s backup
By the way he was slamming peach daiquiris in Fresno, my boy is up to the challenge, holla
2K4S COMIN ATCHA LIVE
October 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
shame i am not a baseball fan .. the Nats and the Os are trying to make a run at it !!
October 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Have to remember that teams can and do get better, put it together and make a run. Happens every year.
Could happen to YOUR Oakland Raiders in 2012.
But first you gotta believe….
October 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Have to remember that teams can and do get better, put it together and make a run. Happens every year.
Could happen to YOUR Oakland Raiders in 2012.
But first you gotta believe…
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I’m with ya brother
October 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
What I see on our team is a guy wearing #20 who either dives into a pile or goes down on lst contact. That’s the difference in the Raider offense right there.
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Not to mention all the times he has run out of bounds to avoid contact instead of fighting for extra yards.
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You know what might be the sad truth in this? DMAC KNOWS….and he’s been told “You need to give us a full season.” It’s not his style to go out of bounds. Plus he’s a fighter, and against his nature to “Lay down.” He wants to run HIS way, but knows he AND the team can’t afford another big injury. I think he’s torn. He’s probably TRYING to be smarter…..But he seems to be damned either way.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
where have i ever said “black qb’s are taking over”?
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if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…. Here’s to also hoping cp thrives so you’ll be WRONG AGAIN! and it’s funny you use that as a crutch so if you fail in life you can say “well it was because it wasn’t a level playing field”. Hey listen you can keep blaming your downfalls on what happened to your ancestors but remember my descendants were slaves too and you haven’t nor will you ever hear me using that as an excuse. also too bad you hate the gays who can’t get married in many states, married. Last I heard black people can get married in any state, hipocrit
October 9th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
When and where were gay people slaves?
October 9th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Dont worry black people will never treat others the way we have been treated in amerikkka or around the world.
As the fathers of humanity we will never bring harm to our children, including those from north central or south amerikkka
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Does that explain why they sold their own kind to the Europeans? Does it also explain why there is still same race slavery in Africa?
October 9th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
unfair to compare dmac to arian when arian has wide open holes to run through and a OC that keeps calling run. it’s obvious that Arian is better at the zbs but give DMAC an oline that knows how to run it and i think he proves he’s the best back
October 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
unfair to compare dmac to arian when arian has wide open holes to run through and a OC that keeps calling run. it’s obvious that Arian is better at the zbs but give DMAC an oline that knows how to run it and i think he proves he’s the best back
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No Doubt. We’ve all seen what DMAC can do
October 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
LoL interesting how many people in here can read the minds and insider information of each player and coach.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
when will YOU PEOPLE learn….
there is only one color that counts
and that my friends is GREEN !!!!
GreenParty rules !!
October 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Talking to other locals here in oakland on friday night about 95% of the fans i spoke with said these three things:
1. The team lack leadership
2. The team misses and needed JC, he was the back bone the glue, the leader.
3.carson palmer has been a major disappointment, both for his uneven play, (mainly last year) and his inability to inspire team mates or lead them to performance or wins.
This was the take of 95% of the other authentic oakland residents and fans at the 3 different bars I stopped into.
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forget reggie, mistic and oakland residents for GM!
October 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
where have i ever said “black qb’s are taking over”?
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if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…. Here’s to also hoping cp thrives so you’ll be WRONG AGAIN! and it’s funny you use that as a crutch so if you fail in life you can say “well it was because it wasn’t a level playing field”. Hey listen you can keep blaming your downfalls on what happened to your ancestors but remember my descendants were slaves too and you haven’t nor will you ever hear me using that as an excuse. also too bad you hate the gays who can’t get married in many states, married. Last I heard black people can get married in any state, hipocrit
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now you have really gone off the deep end.
You cant put words in my mouth, but you really want people to believe i am who you say i am.
1. I never have said “black qbs’s are taking over”. this my be your greatest fear, but it didnt come form me.
2. I have no clue what you mean by “you can blame your down falls on what happened to your ancestors”. This is yet another statement i have never made.
3. I know your peole have been slaves, but you clearly still suffer from a slave mentality. This is why you can be ok with discussions that dont include your former master…cortez complex
4. i have never said “i hate gays”. The gay life style is not my thing but what you do behind closed doors,…or just behind, makes no difference to me
5. you are a sad case. You compared qbs according to racial lines at the mere mention of tp6 and cam.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
unfair to compare dmac to arian when arian has wide open holes to run through and a OC that keeps calling run. it’s obvious that Arian is better at the zbs but give DMAC an oline that knows how to run it and i think he proves he’s the best back
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No Doubt. We’ve all seen what DMAC can do
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I feel for him too. He puts on the happy face, and plays the good soldier -never complaining- and says he’s not frusterated with their lack of rushing success this year. “Just gotta keep runnin it, keep grinding.” He says…….
I bet you he’s frusterated as HELL. Especially when he must know he’s better than this. He just isn’t getting the help he needs.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
99% of fans I have talked to say Palmer is the least of there concerns and that he has played pretty good this year. They also think its obvious he is a great leader.
99% of fans think Knapp is the major problem along with the oline/ZBS, They think Palmer could even be better if he actually had time to throw, but they like how when the line breaks down he has shown some mobility and has ben able to make plays when it looks like a sure sack.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Can’t wait until crazed fool K-Rat logs onto the blog from his apt in old town Switzerland
That old Troll has now blogged on his anniversary and from Europe
What would he do without his precious blog? Probably go kick rocks
HOLLA
October 9th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
BTW a alot of these fans I talked to weren’t Palmer fans because they didn’t like what they saw last year. Palmer has changed minds from his play thus far and even they can see we are lucky to have a player like Palmer because it could be a whole lot worse out there this year
October 9th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
99% of fans I have talked to say Palmer is the least of there concerns and that he has played pretty good this year. They also think its obvious he is a great leader.
99% of fans think Knapp is the major problem along with the oline/ZBS, They think Palmer could even be better if he actually had time to throw, but they like how when the line breaks down he has shown some mobility and has ben able to make plays when it looks like a sure sack.
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100% agree.
Palmer is not to blame, dead last in league in rushing, defense never winning field position and falling behind early. A WR core thrown together on opening week and injury rattled.
The scheme is hurting this team on offense.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
The Ghost of Al Davis Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Dont worry black people will never treat others the way we have been treated in amerikkka or around the world.
As the fathers of humanity we will never bring harm to our children, including those from north central or south amerikkka
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Does that explain why they sold their own kind to the Europeans? Does it also explain why there is still same race slavery in Africa?
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im afraid you are grossly misinformed.
So called slavery in africa in precolonial africa did not resemble the horrors that we sufferd at the hands of white supremacist / willy lynch slavery.
In precolonial africa, ethnic groups would be captured by their neighbors as a result of war. They were then absorbed into the predominant culture or locked into a certain class., such as farmers, or service industry.
They were not brutally beaten routinely, or murdered for pleasure. they were free to maintain their language, religion/ spiritual practice, courtship and marriage ritual and practices. They were never banned from education or medical treatment.They were free to maintain their families and were not bought and sold on auction blocks.
The idea that precolonial africa was equally as bad as the hells we suffered at the hands of european imperialism and white supremacy is a myth, and only used to lessen the sting of the descendants of the guilty. This also is used to make black people think that we mistreated ourselves and needed to be saved by more civilized whites. This is a lie
Black on black slavery today is a false flag operation. During colonialism, whites would set one group of blacks up against another. Often supplying one side of a local disagreement with advantages, in return for favor from that local group. in other words, some leaders were dupped into playing ball and selling out. this is still in play and has never been eradicated. That is why we have fictitious borders and names of states and countries in africa, such as congo, sierra leon, south africa, Rhodesia, the gold coast ivory coast and so on. this is a common tactic and traces it roots to europe. This is at the root of the issue in the suddan today, the rwanda genocide and so on.Infamous characters like the Rothschild family used this exact trick on napoleon, and Machiavelli also used this technique.
Slavery the way it existed here has never been in africa before you know who got there.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Hahahah
sorry folks but that is what is was said by most of the fans i spoke to that night, a good 15-20 people altogether.
I am only relaying what the local take was that night in oakland.
dont shoot the messenger
October 9th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Hahahah
sorry folks but that is what is was said by most of the fans i spoke to that night, a good 15-20 people altogether.
I am only relaying what the local take was that night in oakland.
dont shoot the messenger
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Should of talked to me
October 9th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Anyone think we should grab Manti Te’o instead of all this Geno Smith talk? I don’t neccessarily think we need to blow our 1st rounder on another flash in the pan, potential franchise QB next year. We need a fierce, rutheless Defense. You wanna talk about rebuild? It starts at MLB…..
October 9th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Before anybody tries it let me also say this
THERE IS NO HISTORICAL RECORD OF JEWISH ( jew is a religion not a race) ENSLAVEMENT AT ANY POINT ON THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.
ok back to football
October 9th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Anyone think we should grab Manti Te’o instead of all this Geno Smith talk? I don’t neccessarily think we need to blow our 1st rounder on another flash in the pan, potential franchise QB next year. We need a fierce, rutheless Defense. You wanna talk about rebuild? It starts at MLB…..
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depends on two things really
is plamer a long term solution? age and other factors say no
do we have an heir apparent on deck already? The case remains open for tp6
if the answer to these questions is no than of course big mack will need a qb, why not take the best in college football if you have a chance to get him
October 9th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
September 27th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
To be honest I think our defense wins the game Sunday.
but now…
Raiderinparadise Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I think OAK can win this game, much more confident than Denver, I knew Denver would route us inside.
ATL will not be throwing all over us because Turner can pound the ball on our run D early. The question is, who guards Gonzalez on 3rd downs and goaline?
McFadden will have a 100+ game running and a solid rec. game too.
The panthers have a terrible D line, only 1 rusher (charles johnson) he still got 4 sacks on ryan when all that line had to do was double him.
have some faith btiches
pulling a mitt romney?
October 9th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
cp has been a good soldier this year i back the raiders. when jc was winning i backed him. when bruce was winning i backed him. if jamarcus won i backed him, never did once boo the guy at the games and didnn’t agree with others who did. If cp starts being a pic machine, i’ll be pissed and wanna see what leinert could do because as of now he’s our second best qb. don’t diss my teams qb when he’s playing his a$$ off, that’s just the way i look at it
October 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
cp has been a good soldier this year i back the raiders. when jc was winning i backed him. when bruce was winning i backed him. if jamarcus won i backed him, never did once boo the guy at the games and didnn’t agree with others who did. If cp starts being a pic machine, i’ll be pissed and wanna see what leinert could do because as of now he’s our second best qb. don’t diss my teams qb when he’s playing his a$$ off, that’s just the way i look at it
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questions that must be answered by big mack and the boys with regards to qb
how long can palmer play at this level
is this level good enough, and can he lead to wins
is there a talent that you can pass in this draft
what is the talent of the qb pool in the next 2 drafts
is tp6 the heir apperant
This is what big mack and the boys will mull over and are evaluating as we speak
palmer worship from the fans and their whimsical rose colored glasses have no bearing on the outcome
I do think that this draft class with manual and smith will is thin, but those two may end up being better than palmer
October 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
if the answer to these questions is no than of course big mack will need a qb, why not take the best in college football if you have a chance to get him
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I personally think Palmer is doing a fine job. I think he’s servicable for another couple years at least. The Defense absolutely needs a make-over. I think the D is a bigger concern at THIS present time. I think the only way TP gets a shot is if he’s forced into action.
DAMNIT, Smith would be great…..But I WANT a Ray Lewis; a team leader, an emotional force, and a fixture associated with Raider Football. If you gotta stout D, you know you’ve got a chance every single week. Plus, even if we lose, and the other team is limping off the field cause they got the Sh*t kicked outta them for 60 min….with no chuckling on the sideline; just wincing, bending over, and looking at the clock. I’ll be happy.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
Avg. completion vs #Raiders comes 5.1 yards downfield, 2nd fewest in NFL and lowest for team since at least ‘92. Avg was 6.9 in ‘11
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We need our starting corners back big time. Our D will look more like the 1st game of the season.
With our scrub back-ups we’ll have to continue to play that soft zone.
Get healthy fellas.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
if the answer to these questions is no than of course big mack will need a qb, why not take the best in college football if you have a chance to get him
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I personally think Palmer is doing a fine job. I think he’s servicable for another couple years at least. The Defense absolutely needs a make-over. I think the D is a bigger concern at THIS present time. I think the only way TP gets a shot is if he’s forced into action.
DAMNIT, Smith would be great…..But I WANT a Ray Lewis; a team leader, an emotional force, and a fixture associated with Raider Football. If you gotta stout D, you know you’ve got a chance every single week. Plus, even if we lose, and the other team is limping off the field cause they got the Sh*t kicked outta them for 60 min….with no chuckling on the sideline; just wincing, bending over, and looking at the clock. I’ll be happy.
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interesting take, you start by building on defense, im lean toward starting with qb and o-line
October 9th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
So AC is expected to start practicing next week. We can really use his intensity and motor on the defensive side of the ball. Where’s our spark plug on the D?????? Or better yet, who’s willing to step up to the plate?
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
In the NFL it’s all about the money. If org’s believe a black qb, no matter who it is can help them to win games then they will play him…and start him…period.
You’ll never convince me there is any anti black qb conspiracy in the NFL.
Believe me, it is waaaaaay more important to any org. to win ballgames than making sure they have a white guy at QB.
If an Arab or Laotian QB emerged as a stud he would get a shot too..or Asian…whatever.
So if ANY qb of any race, creed or color emerges as a stud or shows the potential to be a stud, that person will get his shot.
Race matters NOTHING in the world of NFL football…at least on the playing field.
Matters nothing to me either. If you can win games for the Raiders….welcome aboard.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I’ll take a pass rusher, a lock down cb, a ball hawking FS, a NT that singlehandedly stuffs the run, or an MLB. GIMME SOME PLAYMAKERS ON D!
October 9th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
DMAC that Dubow tweet has me confused. Is that a good stat or bad? Doesn’t make #sence…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
JLofty votes for building the Raiders around a bunch of BOAR hunters!
October 9th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
DMAC that Dubow tweet has me confused. Is that a good stat or bad? Doesn’t make #sence…
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Good in a way.
The way I read it, it means that we’re getting toasted on shorter routes, nothing deep. (lots of zone w/ our DB’s out)
October 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
734.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
if the answer to these questions is no than of course big mack will need a qb, why not take the best in college football if you have a chance to get him
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I personally think Palmer is doing a fine job. I think he’s servicable for another couple years at least. The Defense absolutely needs a make-over. I think the D is a bigger concern at THIS present time. I think the only way TP gets a shot is if he’s forced into action.
DAMNIT, Smith would be great…..But I WANT a Ray Lewis; a team leader, an emotional force, and a fixture associated with Raider Football. If you gotta stout D, you know you’ve got a chance every single week. Plus, even if we lose, and the other team is limping off the field cause they got the Sh*t kicked outta them for 60 min….with no chuckling on the sideline; just wincing, bending over, and looking at the clock. I’ll be happy.
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interesting take, you start by building on defense, im lean toward starting with qb and o-line
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We absolutely need QB and O-Line. We need a whole new team practically. I personally think that our “Raider” idendtity will come from the Defensive side and the Offensive Swagger will feed off of it. Maybe that’s just what I want as a fan.
We need it all though…..SH*T, if THIS team could get off the damn field on 3rd down, we might be singin a different tune right now. Then again, Offense doesn’t help them by going 3 and out every series either…..
I dunno man…..What do we do?
October 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison.
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What is wrong with Venison Klas? Its organic, free range, hormone free, lean protien…You shoulda hit the bench rack after you were done…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
I’m voting for a mean son of a b!tch on the D. Who’s loves playing football and is not here to collect a check!
October 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
it means that we’re getting toasted on shorter routes, nothing deep
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also means branch and mcclain are getting toasted
October 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison.
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Congrats on a getting a waiter job, K-Rat! And venison is not a bad meal to serve the help.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Can we blow this schit up and start an expansion Raider team in Oakland?
October 9th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
If you got a GREAT D, you can make a star out of schlubs like ASmith, TDilfer, BJohnson, you name ‘em…
In fact give me a Top5 D year in and year out and I’ll stock the O with 3 QB’s like TPryor, CKaepernic, or any of those kids in college who they churn and burn in the spread and we’ll win a goodly number of Lombardis. Book it!
October 9th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Ok DMAC that’s kind of what I read into it too…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
it means that we’re getting toasted on shorter routes, nothing deep
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also means branch and mcclain are getting toasted
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true
These guys have been a great disappointment so far.
Not surprised w/ Romac, but Branch?
This dude just got cashed out and has regressed so far in the season.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
In the NFL it’s all about the money. If org’s believe a black qb, no matter who it is can help them to win games then they will play him…and start him…period.
You’ll never convince me there is any anti black qb conspiracy in the NFL.
Believe me, it is waaaaaay more important to any org. to win ballgames than making sure they have a white guy at QB.
If an Arab or Laotian QB emerged as a stud he would get a shot too..or Asian…whatever.
So if ANY qb of any race, creed or color emerges as a stud or shows the potential to be a stud, that person will get his shot.
Race matters NOTHING in the world of NFL football…at least on the playing field.
Matters nothing to me either. If you can win games for the Raiders….welcome aboard.
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not sure where you are coming from on this but no one has claimed an anti black qb conspiracy. however the exclusion of black people in sports is not limited to playing qb either.
However there is a documented history of black people being excluded from playing qb, being head coach, being gm and being owners. That was the reason for the so called roomy rule remember? ( i dont think the roony rule is necessarily a good thing but that is another story)
This is now changing mainly because the old boys network has decided that it does more harm to exclude us, and you are missing out on talent with such out dated thinking.
You are right in the sense that making money has now trumped racism in SOME organizations.
Too think that racism doesnt exist in sport yet still exist in every other facet of our society is.. well, naive.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
JLofty also would build around a great OLine. Wild bunch of boar hunters and a road grader, NASTY oline…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
MikieG Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison.
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What is wrong with Venison Klas? Its organic, free range, hormone free, lean protien…You shoulda hit the bench rack after you were done…
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I’m not Klas. But I’ve only had venison twice in my life, both times here. It was actually pretty good. this is venison season here. But I’m not a fan of Swiss food, too damn heavy.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
MikieG Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison.
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What is wrong with Venison Klas? Its organic, free range, hormone free, lean protien…You shoulda hit the bench rack after you were done…
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I’m not Klas. But I’ve only had venison twice in my life, both times here. It was actually pretty good. this is venison season here. But I’m not a fan of Swiss food, too damn heavy.
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“Put some hot sauce on my burrito baby!!!!”
October 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
sad cuz pretty much the same personell on oline was pretty damn good last year
October 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Mistic, speaking of naive maybe you were unaware of modern day slavery in Mauritania. Not trying to be a smart @$$ or anything you were just talking like you may not be aware of that practice. Very sad but humans are not always kind to each other…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I too am just relayin what I heard the other day, I would say I talked to atleast 20 lifelong Raider fans and they believe Palmer is not the issue here. Don’t have to believe me if you don’t want but a large/most of Raider Nation think Palmer is doing just fine. Im still on a wait and see myself on everything, but not sure how much more waitin I can do.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Like the Truman Show in here.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
KrappyRat, did your boss at the posh dinner make you wear the white or the burgundy serving jacket?
Whenever I dine on delicious meats like venison, I prefer the help to be dressed in burgundy
Goes with my wine, holla
October 9th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
750.DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
it means that we’re getting toasted on shorter routes, nothing deep
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also means branch and mcclain are getting toasted
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true
These guys have been a great disappointment so far.
Not surprised w/ Romac, but Branch?
This dude just got cashed out and has regressed so far in the season.
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I know, he used to be about the only thing that stood OUT on Defense. You know what’s REALLY sad?…..There were games this year where I actually forgot he was back there.
He’d come up and help make a tackle and I’m like
“OH SH*T…..There’s Branch. I hadn’t heard his name all day.”
October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I wonder who paid for that dinner???
October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
K-Rat, I hope you remembered to tell the guests you were serving at the posh Zurich dinner that you’re a famous blog personality back in the States
That should get you a few easy tips
October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
Avg. completion vs #Raiders comes 5.1 yards downfield, 2nd fewest in NFL and lowest for team since at least ‘92. Avg was 6.9 in ‘11
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Our Db’s give waaaaaaaaay 2 much cushion on the outside. Thats also why we give up those 5 yd passes alllllllll day. Huffy and company are scared to get beat, so they play 10 yds off receivers.
We need our starting DB’s back!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@762, every once in while BD you make me chuckle…
October 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
“I talked to atleast 20 lifelong Raider fans and they believe Palmer is not the issue here.”
Palmer is not the issue we have a rookie GM, HC, OC, DC, ST coach the list goes on.
We went from a top 5 running team to dead last! The O-Line is not what it used to be and the special teams are at an all time low we have had the worst starting field position ever in memory.
Our defense is worse than last year if that is at all possible…..How is this somehow Palmer’s fault I will never know.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
DAILY REMINDER: TOM CABLE > HUE JACKSON
October 9th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@762, every once in while BD you make me chuckle…
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He used to be a bit funny a few months back, but I think he needs to come up w/ some new material.
lol
October 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
This “posh” club served nothing else huh? Eat venison or go home, right? lol ok
Really you were at DerWeinerschnitzel, right Munster ?
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KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison
October 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
They take EBT in the Swiss Alps now huh?
Roger that KK Chick Fil A
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KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just got in from a very posh dinner at a private club in Zurich. The only problem is I had to eat venison
October 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
DAILY REMINDER: TOM CABLE > HUE JACKSON
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DAILY REMINDER: DA hired a reject that got stripped of his play calling duties during the season.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
Palmer is not the issue we have a rookie GM, HC, OC, DC, ST coach the list goes on.
Someone gets it
All those and the Owner for the past 50 years.
The heart and soul of the Raiders was lost midseason and things started going downhill.
Reggie will turn it around with the D.A.
It will be a tough couple years but we will play hard and compete.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Brownie, you missed all time classic from last week -
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Me and 30 others were on the blog the night you showed up and told the world it was your anniversary
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Prove it Dumb Beech.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I wonder who paid for that dinner???
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Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Ask.com
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Is it true KoolKell can afford all these lavish trips on good investments he made?
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Yes, the investment being his wife….
October 9th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Huzzah! Long time reader, first time blogger here! Love this site and thought I’d give my 2 cents. Raiders gonna smack Falcons around like a red headed step child. Raiders 30, Falcons 17
October 9th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@762, every once in while BD you make me chuckle…
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He used to be a bit funny a few months back, but I think he needs to come up w/ some new material.
lol
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Wow, now I know how Louis CK feels. His fans also have high standards
WHUT WHUT
October 9th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
I remember this vividly.
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KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Me and 30 others were on the blog the night you showed up and told the world it was your anniversary
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Prove it Dumb Beech.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Do his kids know you are a blog tr0ll that sweeps a barbershop for a living?
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KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I wonder who paid for that dinner???
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Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
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This could be the best day of my life
October 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
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This guy bought you dinner? That’s impressive. Are you some kind of jet setter?
http://www.agcs.allianz.com/assets/Staff%20photos/Board%20Photos/Fischer%20Hirs%20sitting%202009.jpg
October 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
LMAO @ 780
October 9th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I wonder who paid for that dinner???
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Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
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Did you sing Herr Fischer the drunken hillybilly song you routinely post on the blog?
You know the one, about beating up pootbutts and bootlickers
October 9th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Lol! You simply cannot script the mess that goes on in here.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
“Did you sing Herr Fischer the drunken hillybilly song you routinely post on the blog?”
That is funny as hell!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
KK is such a mess and he thinks the world of himself.
lol
October 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Ask.com
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Is it true KoolKell can afford all these lavish trips on good investments he made?
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Yes, the investment being his wife….
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We’ve got rich friends here. I was at that dudes wedding. His kids love me.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Did you show him the picture of your corvette that Cork will own soon..
October 9th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Now, tomorrow I’ve got a DMAC jersey to deliver to my godson.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Ask.com
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Is it true KoolKell can afford all these lavish trips on good investments he made?
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Yes, the investment being his wife….
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We’ve got rich friends here. I was at that dudes wedding. His kids love me.
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Do his kids know you once chased Bubba Paris around the County Fair?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Kell, is your wife rich?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
October 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Ask.com
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Is it true KoolKell can afford all these lavish trips on good investments he made?
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Yes, the investment being his wife….
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We’ve got rich friends here. I was at that dudes wedding. His kids love me.
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Is it love like Richard Pryor had in the movie The Toy.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
“Is it love like Richard Pryor had in the movie The Toy.”
LMFAO!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
The Toy
hahaha I remember that movie. Its at home on dvd.
lol
October 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
beechy dawg once blew me under the stands at the west covina high school. word
October 9th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Now, tomorrow I’ve got a DMAC jersey to deliver to my godson.
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Just don’t mess up and deliver one of your soiled diapers instead
October 9th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Frankie Sacramento Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
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This guy bought you dinner? That’s impressive. Are you some kind of jet setter?
http://www.agcs.allianz.com/assets/Staff%20photos/Board%20Photos/Fischer%20Hirs%20sitting%202009.jpg
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Yes, that’s him. been knowing him for almost 30 yrs. Came here for his wedding. He and my wife are childhood friends.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Frankie Sacramento Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Herr Fischer paid for it. It was his club. He’s CFO of Allianz. He wasn’t t taking no for an answer. I’m godfather to his kids.
++++++++++
This guy bought you dinner? That’s impressive. Are you some kind of jet setter?
http://www.agcs.allianz.com/assets/Staff%20photos/Board%20Photos/Fischer%20Hirs%20sitting%202009.jpg
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Yes, that’s him. been knowing him for almost 30 yrs. Came here for his wedding. He and my wife are childhood friends.
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Ask him if I can borrow a few hundred thousands. I’ll pay him back in 30 years.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
sad cuz pretty much the same personell on oline was pretty damn good last year
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Jc made them look far better than they actually were with his deft nimble and heady pocket play
October 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Guy has got 400 employees working for him worldwide.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
sad cuz pretty much the same personell on oline was pretty damn good last year
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Jc made them look far better than they actually were with his deft nimble and heady pocket play
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Damn Mystic
Sometimes I wonder if your really Campbell himself.
lol
October 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I gave him lessons on women, right Cris? Lol.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Guy has got 400 employees working for him worldwide.
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What are you waiting for then? Put in the good word for me Kell.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
beechy dawg tries to be heady. he’s just not very good at it. i guess he couldn’t be a quarterback. but the guy bent over, beechy should be that guy
October 9th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Reggie,lets not go get any play makers or anything,we are fine the way we are. Plax still out there,T.O. fixen to head to the jets,I hate this fat fkn watermelon!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Mistic, speaking of naive maybe you were unaware of modern day slavery in Mauritania. Not trying to be a smart @$$ or anything you were just talking like you may not be aware of that practice. Very sad but humans are not always kind to each other…
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i am keenly aware of the situation in mauritania and it only further illustrates my point.
Slavery in mauritania IS NOT BLACK ON BLACK SLAVERY.
Slaverey in mauritania is the WHITE MOORS (berbers that speak arabic) ENSLAVING BLACK MOORS AND AFRICAN ETHNIC GROUPS
this is white supremacy with an arab accent
October 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Now the founder of this search engine is my wife’s cousin, Andre….
http://www.help.ch/
October 9th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
“I talked to atleast 20 lifelong Raider fans and they believe Palmer is not the issue here.”
Palmer is not the issue we have a rookie GM, HC, OC, DC, ST coach the list goes on.
We went from a top 5 running team to dead last! The O-Line is not what it used to be and the special teams are at an all time low we have had the worst starting field position ever in memory.
Our defense is worse than last year if that is at all possible…..How is this somehow Palmer’s fault I will never know.
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have not read any post today that says “this is palmers fault”
Unless he can become the solution and elevate the team though. his days will be numbered in silver and black then you can be upset with big mack
it was very interesting talking to my fellow locals, some of whom have taken a complete 180 with regards to palmer. they were sold on him when he signed and you would think he could magically pizz rainbows or something.
On friday though those same folks blasted plamer and his lack of play making ability and leadership.
Their words, i thought it was pretty funny
October 9th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Now the founder of this search engine is my wife’s cousin, Andre….
http://www.help.ch/
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And I’m the President of the Green Party! (pass that schit)
Vote DMAC for Prez!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Mystic
Where did do you meet these fans at?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
oakfoshow Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Reggie,lets not go get any play makers or anything,we are fine the way we are. Plax still out there,T.O. fixen to head to the jets,I hate this fat fkn watermelon!
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do you also hate the 31 other gm in the nfl that cut or failed to invite plax and t.o?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Mystic
Where did do you meet these fans at?
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local bars here in the town
October 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
What bars?
Maybe we can hook up and chat a bit.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
downtown?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Alright Gnite Gents.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
G’Day mates.
Got a couple of Foster’s Lagers chilling in the ice can (Aussie for cooler for the layman), gettin ready to pop those soon…right after I “pop” a couple of wasted “Sheila’s” (that’s Aussie for girls).
Got a couple of Wallabees who are basically “wannabees”…meaning they want to be with the “Chipper”.
You dorks be good and i’ll put another shrimp on the barbie for ya.
MAD TRIPPING AND DOWN UNDER SLIPPIN FROM THE OUTBACK
WORD!!!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Alright Gnite Gents.
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Don’t forget my request Kell
Peace!
October 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
What bars?
Maybe we can hook up and chat a bit.
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i was at first friday, so i kind of bounced from dogwood all the way up to lukas and everything in between.
that would be cool, but it will have to be on a monday / thursday game one night
October 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Alright Gnite Gents.
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Say goodnight to Jacqueline for me.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
What bars?
Maybe we can hook up and chat a bit.
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i was at first friday, so i kind of bounced from dogwood all the way up to lukas and everything in between.
that would be cool, but it will have to be on a monday / thursday game one night
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I was out there 2.
It was poppin’ as always.
OK fasho’
I’ll let you know wassup
October 9th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
it was very interesting talking to my fellow locals
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quit lying, you stay home play video games all day! bustin your balls mistic but really, why would you want palmer to fail? and why were you happy to see bruce fail last year? yet at the same time you’re so excited at the prospects of cam newton rgIII and russell wilson. last i checked those guys aren’t on the raiders..
October 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Raiders defeat Atlanta; we can defeat anyone in the NFL this season; and reasonably expect to win all remaining games>
Raiders do not defeat Atlanta or Jacksonville, I do not see us winning 4 games all season.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Alright Gnite Gents.
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Don’t forget to rinse out your conk before bed
October 9th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Gotta run peoples!
Go A’s! 3 straight ain’t schit, make those losers (raiders) earn the grass back!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
October 9th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
DMAC Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
What bars?
Maybe we can hook up and chat a bit.
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i was at first friday, so i kind of bounced from dogwood all the way up to lukas and everything in between.
that would be cool, but it will have to be on a monday / thursday game one night
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I was out there 2.
It was poppin’ as always.
OK fasho’
I’ll let you know wassup
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oh ok, so your a local like me? off top folks first friday is a fool, a real good look for the town.
we have been rivals on this board before but its not personal, and knowing you are not an out of towner means i cant simply dismiss what you say out of hand.
respect folks… because town biznezz is always good biznezz
October 9th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Now that the numbskulls have left, it’s back to the Raiders. If we get some production out of Goodson, Taiwan Jones and Andre Carter, this game could be winnable.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Chips O Toole Says: ice can(Aussie for cooler for the layman) “Sheila’s” (that’s Aussie for girls)You dorks be good and i’ll put another shrimp on the barbie for ya./////////////////////Nice try, Chips. You explained everything else for us but forgot to explain an Aussie doesn’t even know what a shrimp is. It’s a prawn. Back to the drawing board.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I doubt an Aussie would even use the pejorative ‘dork’.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
SF Giants looooosing. hahahahaha
October 9th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
it was very interesting talking to my fellow locals
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quit lying, you stay home play video games all day! bustin your balls mistic but really, why would you want palmer to fail? and why were you happy to see bruce fail last year? yet at the same time you’re so excited at the prospects of cam newton rgIII and russell wilson. last i checked those guys aren’t on the raiders..
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haven’t played video game in nearly 10 years.
i was not happy to see bruce fail, i only knew he would when others were deluding themselves.
i was extremely pleased to jc succeed in the face of adversity though.
I dont want palmer to fail, but what ever i do or dont want really doesnt matter. im just a fan like the rest of us.
i have been a fan of college football my whole life and i love qb play. Those guys were ultra talented guys that would not have gotten a shot a few years back so im very happy for them.
But there is a slew of young guys in college that i love today as well.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
I think the games tied Bush.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Beechams Gay Lover Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
beechy dawg tries to be heady. he’s just not very good at it. i guess he couldn’t be a quarterback. but the guy bent over, beechy should be that guy
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Gay Lover,
We call the guy bent over, the “center”. He is the player who transfers the ball to the quarterback once the quarterback signals for the ball to go into play.
Your Beeechy would be good at that.
I want to thank you for outing Beeechy. I have wondered for a long time why he is so anally fixated.
Now I know!
October 9th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain. For someone with no racial agenda you sure get into a lot of racial conversations/ debates. Almost to the exclusion of anything football related. Except as you think race is an issue in football.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Someone needs to Kell not to give out so much personal information on the internet. From all the info he has let out, his home address can be easily found. And now a bunch of strangers know that he is out of town.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Seymour Bush dude is for some odd reason getting joy or maybe relief that the Giants are losing today,..actually they tied that game, hes a little slow,..anyway it reminds me of what the current day Raider fan is,..he knows by Saturday that the Raider game on sunday is a loss, likely a blowout,..so he redirects his thinking,..he devotes all his hopes and dreams on maybe the Niners stumpling and losing,..instead of paying attention to the Raiders hes only interested in the possibility of the Niners losing,..it somehow gives him some relief, if for just a week. Im trying to tell you guys, just take 5-7 years off Raider football,…be a Niner fan for those years,..sundays will almost always be a win, playoffs, superbowl,…monday night games galore,…never a blackout… (yes those are about to return to Oakland),…all you get with Raider sundays is anger and frustration,..with the Niners its winning and good times,.. oh by the way, isnt the saddest thing youve ever seen is old fool kell actually putting in this dumb raider blog that hes at posh dinners in Europe?…I know the guys dillusional and all, but hes gone overboard,..he really needs therapy badly.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Purv,..mystic, like old fool kell, is one of those crybaby vistims,..inferior to all in their minds,..typical female dogs.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
he really needs therapy badly.
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Spoken by some loser moron who hides behind a computer lambasting fans of another team and then says others need therapy. Not only are you gutless, foolish and an imbecile but a proven hypocrite as well. You exceeded the trifecta of imbecilism in one post. Nice work! It’s not that easy to do!
October 9th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Ah Bush,..havin a bad day?…sorry.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Bush you should party with Brien and I and TheC at our tailgate,..Jax game,..enjoy a day at The O,…or is hangin in a blog during the game what does it for you?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Ah Bush,..havin a bad day?…sorry.
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No, no I am having an excellent day. Watching the Giants getting ready to be swept out of the playoffs while on my way to see the A’s win. But hey, your Whiners are playing well. Good for you. Maybe you can go find the Whiner site and talk to your friends. Oh right, there isn’t a Whiner site. Well, maybe you could start one. Oh right, that would take actual effort. Might as well just come here and troll. Like a psychotic loser with no hope or life would do. Nicely proven.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Bush you should party with Brien and I and TheC at our tailgate,.
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I have never been invited. Sounds like fun….
October 9th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Gosh,..if the Niners are “Whiners”…what does that make the Raiders?…I wish the Raiders were half the team the “Whiners” are.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Someone much more interesting than the Raiders is Beeech Dawg.
The Raiders are old hat. Why everyone stays on this blog all day and all night analyzing those losers is a mystery to me. They’ll still be losing 10 yrs from now and everyone here will still we wondering why: because they suck, both staff and players.
And that decrepit old piece of “you-know-what”, (BIH) baby (BIH).
Now with Beeecham there is a different animal. Gay as a $3 bill yet with an elaborate reality he has constructed that is highly imaginative.
For a bull milker he is a funny guy, except it is all fantasy.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
.instead of paying attention to the Raiders hes only interested in the possibility of the Niners losing,
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If you go to games then when they show the Whiners losing on the big screen the entire crowd yells out in unified joy, what do you do?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Ok Mistic, maybe I had misread what you said. I don’t read most of the political/social posts in here. Yours I had skimmed, right before someone said something about gays being slaves, I was already tuning out, lol!
Just trying to help out with the infos…
October 9th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Eye in the Sky that has been done/tried but that guy has some mental or medical issues I think. Some times he’s lucid, other times totally off the rails.
Some folks just can’t be helped….
October 9th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Gosh,..if the Niners are “Whiners”…what does that make the Raiders?…I wish the Raiders were half the team the “Whiners” are.
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For God sakes man, guys like RaiderDuck claim life long loyalty to the Raiders, who have ripped off his time and money: yet it will be Raiders’ fans to the death no matter the result.
The more RaiderDuck talks the stupider he sounds. And that goes for rest of his ilk.
Long live the 49′ers, and I don’t give a rat’s tutu what moron loyalists think about me at all.
And btw, Reg, Mark, DA, Tarver, Knapp, Seymour, McClain have just sh.t in your face RaiderDuck are dying with laughter that you are so f’ing dumb helping to make them rich.
Get my point, Brilliante ??????
October 9th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
And now RaiderDuck, and his ilk, will flap their wings like Alpha Roosters, in outrage, trying to demonstrate dominance.
The only dominance they can demonstrate is bending over and taking it you-know-where from patent losers, pimps and thieves, those called the Raiders.
Waste your time with this garbage; you are an idiot RaiderDuck, along with your ilk!
October 9th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Eye in the Sky that has been done/tried but that guy has some mental or medical issues I think. Some times he’s lucid, other times totally off the rails.
Some folks just can’t be helped….
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I wonder what his wife would think if she knew the information he is giving out. For instance, I was able to find his wife’s facebook page. She is actually kind of cute. It doesn’t appear that Kell has a facebook.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: Slavery the way it existed here has never been in africa before you know who got there.//////////You mean ‘whitey’?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Eye in the Sky Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Someone needs to Kell not to give out so much personal information on the internet. From all the info he has let out, his home address can be easily found. And now a bunch of strangers know that he is out of town/////////////////////What the he11 you gonna steal?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
EitS, what the wife’s first name?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
EitS, what the wife’s first name?
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I believe it has been known on this log before. So, I don’t feel bad giving her name. It is Jacqueline.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
C’mon, J, we don’t care. Someone suckered me into googling his work place so I could see what he actually looks like, and that was singularly anti-climactic. So was briens’ picbut he outed himself, as did I. Other than those two, I’ve no idea what all these clowns look like. Or care.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I outed myself, not Brien.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
If it werent for old fool kell, Mystic would be the biggest female dog in this blog.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Someone much more interesting than the Raiders is Beeech Dawg.
The Raiders are old hat. Why everyone stays on this blog all day and all night analyzing those losers is a mystery to me. They’ll still be losing 10 yrs from now and everyone here will still we wondering why: because they suck, both staff and players.
And that decrepit old piece of “you-know-what”, (BIH) baby (BIH).
Now with Beeecham there is a different animal. Gay as a $3 bill yet with an elaborate reality he has constructed that is highly imaginative.
For a bull milker he is a funny guy, except it is all fantasy.
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Blackside, I love your “freakish spawn posts” please add more adjectives…It’s very funny.
Anyway, I envy your ability to turn off your Raider love..or interest..or whatever and give some of it over to another team.
I wish I had the ability to do that, I just can’t derive any joy from another team’s success. I wish I could.
The best I can do is enjoy another team’s misery…like GB for instance. The state of Wisconsin and their ridiculous indentity with the Packers is irritating. The Packers define them as human beings. Their self worth is intertwined with the success of the Packers or lack thereof. Of course not EVERYBODY in Wisconsin…but close.
There are many teams I just enjoy watching lose, but none i really enjoy watching win; except the Raiders.
It’s a curse really.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Icould find out on a few by getting my a$$ across the state to a game this year, but that remains to be seen. Can’t give up the whole day like I did in the eighties and back then I was less than an hour driving time ’till I was tailgating and tossing a football around behind the museum of science and history.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Kell is telling the truth about Switzerland.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
In Australia, we love the Raiders. Put another shrimp on the barbie.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Purv,..mystic, like old fool kell, is one of those crybaby vistims,..inferior to all in their minds,..typical female dogs.
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I am not a victim, but a prisoner of war. I wouldnt cry about it, but i would gladly pick up a sword and chop off the heads of any enemies of my liberation struggle world wide.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
No more faux Aussie slang, Chips?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Purv,..mystic, like old fool kell, is one of those crybaby vistims,..inferior to all in their minds,..typical female dogs.
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a dude that calls himself Amy needs to be carefulabout calling other females
October 9th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Purv,..mystic, like old fool kell, is one of those crybaby vistims,..inferior to all in their minds,..typical female dogs.
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I am not a victim, but a prisoner of war. I wouldnt cry about it, but i would gladly pick up a sword and chop off the heads of any enemies of my liberation struggle world wide.
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?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I am not a victim, but a prisoner of war. I wouldnt cry about it, but i would gladly pick up a sword and chop off the heads of any enemies of my liberation struggle world wide.////////A free man likens himself to a POW? That is victim mentality.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Fascinating. I haven’t posted anything since this morning and suddenly Blackandsilverside starts insulting me for no reason at all.
I hope he realizes I am both straight and married. Still, it is a little flattering.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Do any of you California guys use Commercial Energy?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Pick up the sword, Mistic, if you have identified your oppressors, or are you still blindly lashing out in a fog of victimhood?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
My friend is a die-hard FALCON fan and he thinks McFadden will rush for almost 200 in this game.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reread the name Sambo,..or can you not read? Lol,..hey its not my fault dude that you are who you are,…be proud, not ashamed. By the way, your hilarious tough guy sword talk isnt intimidating. You can go through life as a victim if you like,..I actually hope you do.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Do any of you California guys use Commercial Energy?//////Don’t even know what it is.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Mystic thinks of his EBT card and welfare check as a sword.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
No more faux Aussie slang, Chips?
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Oh yeah. Good on ya mate. I’ll put an extra shrimp on the barbie for ya.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I am not a victim, but a prisoner of war. I wouldnt cry about it, but i would gladly pick up a sword and chop off the heads of any enemies of my liberation struggle world wide.////////A free man likens himself to a POW? That is victim mentality.
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vicitm not hardly, maybe you would be more comfortable with a person that folds or shrinks from battle and cries victim.
Im more like Toussaint Le Overture, Nat Turner, Hannibal and Hamurabi.
admission that amerikkka is hostile territory doesnt make me a victim it keeps me alive and vigilant.
A captured prisoner of war in a hostile environment needs to always be aware of the ever present danger, just as a tuna always needs to know that he lives amongst sharks
October 9th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
For anyone who is interested in racism in sport – this book has an excelent chapter on racism in English soccer.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-England-Lose-phenomena-explained/dp/0007301111
The authors did a statistical analysis of team success vs the number of coloured players that played for the teams and found that the teams with coloured palyers achieved better results due to the fact that these players cost less money to hire.
They go on to argue that this bias in results only lasted until the late 1980’s and has now been eliminated.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Mystic,..how many boxes of kleenex you go through today?. Poor little female dog.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Kiwi I couldnt care less.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
0-9 last 9 tries following a bye week, also haven’t won in eastern early start in how long?
Trends are made to be broken.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
876.AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Kiwi I couldnt care less.
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I don’t care that you don’t care
October 9th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Pick up the sword, Mistic, if you have identified your oppressors, or are you still blindly lashing out in a fog of victimhood?
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all ready have
i have banned european holidays in my home ( xmas, mis-givings, estra, along with the rest of them)
i dont eat the slave diet full of gmo and chemicals and fast food like mac devils
i have my own name, and my children are named after their own kind as opposed having the name of the former slave owners
I have already chopped off the enemies head, and piled them into a mound on my doorstep as a warning
He has no power over me his maker
October 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Yeah Purvis my pic would be hella anti-climactic too.
I just can’t resist looking at pix of “cute” chicks.
EitS, which FB profile is it? Same last name or is the lady smart enough use a different one than the “old fool?”
October 9th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reread the name Sambo,
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see what i mean?
i already know you wouldnt say that to a black mans face
laughable
October 9th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
JLofty Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Yeah Purvis my pic would be hella anti-climactic too.
I just can’t resist looking at pix of “cute” chicks.
EitS, which FB profile is it? Same last name or is the lady smart enough use a different one than the “old fool?”
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https://www.facebook.com/jacqueline.j.kelly?fref=ts
October 9th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Next up Buster homerun Posey
Straightaway centerfield
Firebaby!!! are you watching and blogging?
I will blog the A’s game here
I am high on norcos, trees, caffiene,
October 9th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Mystic thinks of his EBT card and welfare check as a sword.
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nope i run my own business
but there are more white folks on welfare than black folks in amerikkka so im not surprised you
October 9th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
She is facebook friends with the guy that Kell was bragging about earlier.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
im out too many hill billies in here
October 9th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
881,
Why do you stay in this country then?
October 9th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Wow Mistic you got some heavy baggage there.
I, as a NorseDego have no such baggage. My ancestors settled down to make babies after pillaging the lands of Europe and North Africa of all the fine women. And or to make wine+babies after the fall of the Roman empire.
Neither of those legacies has much meaning to me as a human of the 21st century however. Other than perhaps my love of the Autumn Wind and DA RAIDERS! And the hope to move back to the foothils of the Dolomiti…
October 9th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Ok Purvis you were right. Anti-climactic.
One of her friends has the exact same name as my cousin tho…
Go A’s!
October 9th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
I actually washed dishes at Sambos on the strip in 76
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14696209@N02/3726633519/
October 9th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I know that the semis and the big headed bloggers may not be interested but I met Matt McCallister (since kk is dropping names) who started downey savings and loans and he told me this story before I knew it
Once upon a time there was a man named Sam Battistone. Sam had a friend named Newell Bohnett, whom everyone called Bo.
In 1957, the two men decided to open a restaurant. They figured they’d serve sizzling hotcakes, offer coffee for 10 cents a cup and give their customers service with a smile.
They called the restaurant Sambo’s.
Fast-forward 41 years. Sam Battistone’s grandson, Chad Stevens, has plans to rebuild the restaurant chain — which once numbered 1,200 units coast-to-coast — to its former glory.
There’s just one problem: the name.
Sambo’s was an amalgam of Sam and Bo, and as part of their marketing strategy the founders used a logo based on a children’s story called “Little Black Sambo.”
The book was written in 1899 by Helen Bannerman, a Scottish woman, and takes place in India. It is about a little boy who goes into the jungle and loses his clothing to bullying tigers. But the tigers chase each other around a tree and eventually melt into butter, which Sambo puts on his pancakes and eats.
The marketing strategy was obvious: Sam and Bo open Sambo’s, and pancakes were one of the restaurant’s specialties.
The original Sambo’s restaurant used as its logo a depiction of an Indian boy, but in the book — and in the minds of many who read it — Sambo looked more African than Indian.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
PH, that was random, even for in here….
October 9th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Just looked at the Raiders offensive stats. Worse than Russell led teams.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
i dont know who the beech dawg guy is, but dam it is he the most annoying person in here.. seriously what the fuk is shizzity frizzity??? he needs to learn his english words really, really, really bad..
are there real people out there that find this type of communication acceptable? if thats the case then this country is doomed, worse than the oakland raiders chances of making the playoffs this season… just sayin.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Come back in off the ledge RiP. You really shouldn’t be doing such things right about now…
October 9th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
off the hizzle for reazzle my dizzle diggity shmiggity for the liggity on my niggity..
October 9th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I just realized there are a whole bunch of other blogs on the IBA site just like this. I went on the A’s blog, and it had no posts. All the blogs are barren except for this one.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
J-Raider, imo Beech is just a harmless web surfer with a very elaborate schtick and WAAAYYY too much time on his hands.
Sometimes funny, often not, but easy to skip over if you are not so inclined…
October 9th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
rizzle gizzle wizzle hizzle tizzle pizzle dizzle vizzle mizzle cizzle!!!! what what???? holllaaa
October 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I think we need another post from Cork or Jerry. No practice today, dammit, I forgot. Still its not the bye week make something up….
Surely something interesting must be happening at 1220 Harbourbay Parkway?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
893
Thanks for the pick me up….. Wonder how this D stacks up against some of the worst in Raiders history, from tweets it sounds like we are on pace to break some records that you never want to break
October 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
cant help but see that stupid nonsense on every fukin article..
October 9th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Yeah Cork should tell us how bad it really is, like how we have never rushed for this few of yards in the first 4 games or givin up this many points etc….. Lots of stuff to write about to get us goin
October 9th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
If you imagine Beeech as this guy it is a lot more tolerable:
http://images.zap2it.com/images/movie-31926/malibus-most-wanted-21.jpg
October 9th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Maybe I’ll pick up Goodson on FF team as insurance for later. When your in 1st outta 14 you got to load up on RB cuz the pool is Kate Moss thin…
October 9th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
EitS, you nailed it…
October 9th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I usually would give us a chance to win against anybody, but these damn early eastcoast games……. I don’t know I still think we can pull out a win somehow… Any Givin Sunday
October 9th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Ok, time go home watch the A’s beat up some kitty cats.
Maybe bring the wifey some flowers. That never hurts…
October 9th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
By the way Is south texas raider in the house?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I must say I really enjoy stopping by this blog from time to time even though the Raiders are abysmal. You guys are entertaining.
Carry on.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
JLofty Says: PH, that was random, even for in here…./////////////Mistic was picking up the sword to behead the white oppressors and Plunketthead was just tweaking him into spouting further gibberish. And rightfully so.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
893
Thanks for the pick me up….. Wonder how this D stacks up against some of the worst in Raiders history, from tweets it sounds like we are on pace to break some records that you never want to break
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Good thing we have a defensive minded HC.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Eye in the Sky Says: I just realized there are a whole bunch of other blogs on the IBA site just like this. I went on the A’s blog, and it had no posts. All the blogs are barren except for this one.///////////Never envisioned being a part of anything resembling a blog/chat room but here I am. Silver and Black Pride gets some good back and forth going but never as contentious and amusing as this. I feel like a housewife who as to check in on ‘Her Stories’ daily. This is a soap opera. Interactive.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I must say I really enjoy stopping by this blog from time to time even though the Raiders are abysmal. You guys are entertaining.
Carry on.
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We’re you upset when they killed you off in Rocky 3?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Eye in the Sky Says:
If you imagine Beeech as this guy it is a lot more tolerable:
http://images.zap2it.com/images/movie-31926/malibus-most-wanted-21.jpg
JLofty Says: EitS, you nailed it…/////////Nah. That guy actually thinks he’s cool. Beech knows better.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Hello. My name is Fiduuci. I am please to make your acquanitance.
I am from the old country of Sicilia. We make uh the pasta, we make uh the pizza, we make uh the spaghetti.
I love uh to wath uh the Raiders. They are uh “bellisimo”.
They need uh to stop uh the messing uh up uh.
I want uh nothing but uh the good for the Raiders.
STRAIGHT BALLIN WITH BAKED ZITI CALLIN’
Holla.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
DJ Johnny Says: Carl Weathers Says:
We’re you upset when they killed you off in Rocky 3?///////////////DJ, Carl Weathers was a Raider. Look it up!
October 9th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
This led to a brief professional career with the Oakland Raiders, where he played 7 games in 1970 and one game in 1971. He joined the BC Lions of the Canadian Football League in 1971 and played until 1973, 18 games in total. He retired in 1974 and became an actor.Wikipedia.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Wow Purvisman, I didn’t know that. Cool.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Rock Cartwright @Rockgotti25
Just finished my workout with the Detroit Lions.. 1st time running a 40 in 10 years.. Lol.. Nothing yet.. Still waiting by the phone.. #nfl ////////////////////////////////// WTF! Thought he went back to the whiners. Why is he not on our team, where we supposedly want ‘football players’. Dude IS a football player. Cheap, too.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says: Wow Purvisman, I didn’t know that. Cool.///////////Learned that many years ago on this very blog when I lurked but was unwilling to join in the fray. I’m una-fray-ed now.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
We’re you upset when they killed you off in Rocky 3?
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Actually, it was rocky IV. I had a good run!
October 9th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Did u guys here Rex Ryan said they are gonna take another look at Plaxico?
October 9th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Surprised to see only like 30,000 at the OCO for tonights playoff game.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
911.Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
JLofty Says: PH, that was random, even for in here…./////////////Mistic was picking up the sword to behead the white oppressors and Plunketthead was just tweaking him into spouting further gibberish. And rightfully so.
I nipped it in the bud a little too early
October 9th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Mistic – are u still here? If you’re interested in showing your support for prop 37, I just wanted to relay info on an organized event in Oakland on Thur. Maybe you already know about it…
October 9th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
We’re you upset when they killed you off in Rocky 3?
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Actually, it was rocky IV. I had a good run!
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Yes. I’m sorry. My bad.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Lol,..poor SermourBich,..earler laughing that the Giants were losing,..hope youre ok you little crybaby,..Giants gutted it out!
October 9th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Plunketthead Says: I nipped it in the bud a little too early//////////No way. He left. God help the white people in his neighborhood. Assuming he has a sword.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
What is it with the Niners garbage everytime I come on here? I swear, I have no problem with them, living on the east coast. Perhaps that’s because no one around here talks about them, because no one cares. Because they’ve been meaningless for decades, and they will continue to be meaningless for decades. Again, it’s hilarious to see some idiots have fallen for that smoke screen.
There’s few times that’ve actually been as bad as we have for the past decade. Guess who one of those is? Yep, those darn Niners. Sans last year, they’ve actually managed to consistently match our trashness year in and year out.
AND THEY PLAY IN THE NFC WEST.
Lol! A division that might actually be worse than the AFC West. And for many years, they couldn’t even win, or come close to winning it!
But please, keep spewing the Niners garbage. It continues to be hilarious.
October 9th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
*teams
October 9th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Rock Cartwright @Rockgotti25
Just finished my workout with the Detroit Lions.. 1st time running a 40 in 10 years.. Lol.. Nothing yet.. Still waiting by the phone.. #nfl /////////Nobody else thinks this a travesty. Thought we wanted “football players”. WTF?
October 9th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Someone much more interesting than the Raiders is Beeech Dawg.
The Raiders are old hat. Why everyone stays on this blog all day and all night analyzing those losers is a mystery to me. They’ll still be losing 10 yrs from now and everyone here will still we wondering why: because they suck, both staff and players.
And that decrepit old piece of “you-know-what”, (BIH) baby (BIH).
Now with Beeecham there is a different animal. Gay as a $3 bill yet with an elaborate reality he has constructed that is highly imaginative.
For a bull milker he is a funny guy, except it is all fantasy.
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Blackside, I love your “freakish spawn posts” please add more adjectives…It’s very funny.
Anyway, I envy your ability to turn off your Raider love..or interest..or whatever and give some of it over to another team.
I wish I had the ability to do that, I just can’t derive any joy from another team’s success. I wish I could.
The best I can do is enjoy another team’s misery…like GB for instance. The state of Wisconsin and their ridiculous indentity with the Packers is irritating. The Packers define them as human beings. Their self worth is intertwined with the success of the Packers or lack thereof. Of course not EVERYBODY in Wisconsin…but close.
There are many teams I just enjoy watching lose, but none i really enjoy watching win; except the Raiders.
It’s a curse really.
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Chips,
I appreciate you even mindedness.
When I was a kid my father and my uncles and I watched both the 49′ers and the Raider’s every Sunday. I became a fan of both.
The Raiders, pursuant to the diseased mind of AD have won nothing, (Gruden years notwithstanding) since 1987 after Flores retired as head coach.
Who would, therefore be stupid enough to put up with 25 years of Raiders’ losing seasons when the 49′ers are right across the bay? Who would be stupid enough to thumb his/her nose at a great organization, with un-paralleled success, in favor of the worst club in football, run by AD’s freakish spawn?
It just so happened that one poster went off on “Amy’s in Charge” when Amy’s in Charge complimented the 49′ers, accusing him/her of being a traitor to the nation, etc., etc.
This is tantamount to a deputy of Bashir al-Assad bashing the opposition for opposing Assad’s pernicious regime.
I was merely pointing out that, for the most part, worshipers of failure, are not loyal, but only stupid.
Now the comment regarding Beeech Dawg I feel sincerely. The guy has a fantastic imagination and has built a complex and intricate reality, that doesn’t exist.
Beeecham’s gay lover outed him recently, and where the twain meet, the outing and Beeecham’s reality bisected, is an interesting place indeed.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Allow me a moment to inroduce myself. My name…is Nagasaki.
I am named for the land of my forefathers…a land that was destroyed in 1945 by American GI dropping fireball from sky.
Ours, is a proud people. I am trained in martial art of Aikido.
We get to watch American football by tape delay. We love a the Raider. Raider very good to us. We enjoy much.
I have straight fly Geisha girl waiting in hot tub. She like a much poop. I give to her all I got.
Got a pint of Saki chilling on how you say…refridgerator?
Probably knock out Geisha girl with Micky Finn and take advantage. f she wake up, I karate chop her.
Just keepin it real.
STRAIGHT JAPPIN WHILE YA ALL IS NAPPIN.
Holla!
October 9th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
groan @ #934
October 9th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
My gut tells me the Gut is really starting to miss that second and fourth round pick we have coming this year.
Look for him to trade some MVR’s
October 9th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Kool Kell has a pretty small house.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Eye in the Sky Says: Kool Kell has a pretty small house.////////////////Is it really pretty?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
937,
Eye, Would I be out of line to inquire as to how you know this?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Nagasaki Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Allow me a moment to inroduce myself. My name…is Nagasaki.
I am named for the land of my forefathers…a land that was destroyed in 1945 by American GI dropping fireball from sky.
Ours, is a proud people. I am trained in martial art of Aikido.
We get to watch American football by tape delay. We love a the Raider. Raider very good to us. We enjoy much.
I have straight fly Geisha girl waiting in hot tub. She like a much poop. I give to her all I got.
Got a pint of Saki chilling on how you say…refridgerator?
Probably knock out Geisha girl with Micky Finn and take advantage. f she wake up, I karate chop her.
Just keepin it real.
STRAIGHT JAPPIN WHILE YA ALL IS NAPPIN.
Holla
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Oh my god, another incantation of Beeecham.
Geisha Girl (stripper)in the hot tub, anal fixation (give her poop, saki in the refrigerator.
This dude really cannot stop.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
incarnation of Beeecham****
October 9th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Who would be stupid enough to thumb his/her nose at a great organization, with un-paralleled success, in favor of the worst club in football.///////////////////By extension you supported the Chefs, Donks, and Bolts when they were enjoying success to varying degrees. Rest my F’ing case, troll.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
937,
Eye, Would I be out of line to inquire as to how you know this?
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Kell keeps giving away personal information on this blog. Using all that info, I was able to find his address. You can see his house on Google maps. Obviously I’m not going to post the address. I don’t want to get banned.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
DJ, it is true, though, that Kell is in Switzerland and has rich friends.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
or I should say his wife has rich friends.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
943,
I got ya. I’ve always thought living ANYWHERE in California (outside of Barstow or something) would be very expensive.
How much would a guy have to earn to live a happy life in a decent area and drive a Camry let’s say?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Something weird about seeing Oakland fans waving a yellow towell. You know what I mean?
October 9th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
…referencing the Terrible Towell.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
943,
I got ya. I’ve always thought living ANYWHERE in California (outside of Barstow or something) would be very expensive.
How much would a guy have to earn to live a happy life in a decent area and drive a Camry let’s say?
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Kell bought his house for $350,000 in 2003.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Who would be stupid enough to thumb his/her nose at a great organization, with un-paralleled success, in favor of the worst club in football.///////////////////By extension you supported the Chefs, Donks, and Bolts when they were enjoying success to varying degrees. Rest my F’ing case, troll.
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Okay here we go again: another worshiper substituting stupidity for loyalty.
Purvis, don’t play Alpha rooster with me. Pugnacious roosters tend to get their heads cut off with an ax.
Also don’t pretend to know what I did, or think. Take your freak show in the foothills of the Sierras and go get bit by a rattlesnake on the rattlesnake ranch you lord over consisting of boulders, scrub oak and poison oak.
You are no voice for the Raiders and no voice for this blog.
Also you are a flat out, bold-faced liar when you say:
“By extension you supported the Chefs, Donks, and Bolts when they were enjoying success to varying degrees. Rest my F’ing case, troll.”
You know what you can do now: and be sure to fall back in it.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Any questions, genius ????
October 9th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Eye in the Sky Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
943,
I got ya. I’ve always thought living ANYWHERE in California (outside of Barstow or something) would be very expensive.
How much would a guy have to earn to live a happy life in a decent area and drive a Camry let’s say?
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Kell bought his house for $350,000 in 2003.
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Wow.
A “small” house for 350,000?
No wonder my uncle moved out there to get into real estate.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
…my uncle is Kool Kell by the way..(kidding).
October 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
It look small. 1,290 square feet. He lives in Alameda, which is a pretty posh area.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Kell is 60 years old. His real estate agent picture must be pretty outdated:
http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/website/agent_pictures/3979/Michael%20Kelly(1).jpg
October 9th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
954, Ok that makes more sense then. Really it’s probably no more expensive than living in Cook Co. in Chicagoland..depending on where u live.
There’s people with houses in Libertyville (kind of fancy suburb) who are paying 16,000 yr. in prop. taxes.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I think Oakland is probably cheaper to live in or the same as Chicago.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Alameda? Posh? obviously you have never been to Alameda. It’s anything but posh. Lots of it is rundown. Some areas ok. Most homes are small, starter homes.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
It seemed nice to me. A lot nicer than Oakland.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
I got ya. I’ve always thought living ANYWHERE in California (outside of Barstow or something) would be very expensive.
How much would a guy have to earn to live a happy life in a decent area and drive a Camry let’s say?///////////////Where you at, DJ? I grew up in Pasadena and might find it too expensive now. Left for the Sierra foothills, Grass Valley, in’91 in my thirties and went back 4 years later and the changes were dramatic. The wino district was now old town and yuppied to the max. In 2005 it was unrecognizable as was the entire greater LA area I was once familiar with. LA was never a world class city and they set out to fix that, Hollywood was their only claim to fame. Not entirely, but largely. They have and I doubt I could afford it now, but remember
the 25-40$ per hour my contracting brings in up here would be, he11, I don’t even know. I was making 40 in the hollywood hills in 1980. Didn’t answer any questions, just waxed nostalgic. Never been tempted to return even with promises of work.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
yep, typed in bayfarm island: and his name, and it pops up a small house, for sure.
If you put in address in google, get a street view and can pan around and see houses in area. all hella small. one across the street must be all of 800 sq ft.
Again, not what you would call posh, fo shur.
October 9th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Any questions, genius ????
/////////////////Just read it, dimbulb and I’m out for a smoke, but,yes I have questions and answers for you. If you want to learn, stay posted.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Kell’s wife is a HR manager. His only current listing is selling for $185,000. They can’t be too well off.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
have to ask him if that’s his house. He talks like he has a huge house, not that shack.
Maybe that’s a different Michael Kelly.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
lackandsilverside Says: Purvis, don’t play Alpha rooster with me. Pugnacious roosters tend to get their heads cut off with an ax.///////////You out running with Mistic and his sword?//Take your freak show in the foothills of the Sierras.//You remember.///////You are no voice for the Raiders and no voice for this blog.//Just a fan since ‘79. Professed nothing else.//
October 9th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Seems koolkell is all talk, total bs.
Considering his wifes name is listed on that house, that has to be his house.
Wat the hell is he acting all that when hes living where he is? Fool.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RamblingRose Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
have to ask him if that’s his house. He talks like he has a huge house, not that shack.
Maybe that’s a different Michael Kelly.
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It’s him. If you google him and his wife, the same address comes up. I know for a fact who his wife is.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Also you are a flat out, bold-faced liar when you say: “By extension you supported the Chefs, Donks, and Bolts when they were enjoying success to varying degrees. Rest my F’ing case, troll.”/////////blackandsilverside Says: Who would be stupid enough to thumb his/her nose at a great organization, with un-paralleled success, in favor of the worst club in football. Bronco’s were the best for a couple years there. What’s wrong with that statement, unless you’re gonna hang on the whiners having “un-paralleled success”. Geez, quit dogging, you won’t get dogged.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
If you’re a whiner fan, just say so. We don’t mind if you go bandwagonning.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Wear that red and gold proudly, son.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RamblingRose Says: Seems koolkell is all talk, total bs./////////////All hat, no cattle?
October 9th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
HI EVERYONE
Sure do luv my RAIDERS!
October 9th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I can appreciate being positive but Greg Papa said this wk on ‘Raiders Report’ that “Tyvon Branch is palying good football for you” in talking with Jason Tarver.
Add that to Knapp telling us the offense “is making good strides”.
I realize now no matter how bad we are or what our record is, we’ll be told ad nauseum that everyone is playing well, everyone is getting better, etc. etc. etc.
I don’t know why i even listen to anything anybody says about anything from the Raiders.
I know what I see.
They’re not fooling anybody with that b.s.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Hi raiders fans. Greetings from my planet Zorbannabungoreah. We big raider fans. We also watch all the raider games that’s why we are real fans.
We like to soak our nads in warm oily oily before every raider game while we chilling some loco poco in the how you say ice coolah.
Got some mean bizzies smokin hot in the tub eating how you say double cheeseburger with bacon. Yummie. My babe is avatar look alike vivaca fox. Word. We are not like the avatars. We more like the Marta Qarppo.
YO DIGGITY MOHIZZLE
October 9th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
one time beechy dawg and i put on alien masks and i cornholed him. it was pretty fun
October 9th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Whoa. Dropped a duece in the driveway. My neighbor got upset that I left it there. So I guess tomorrow I’ll have to go rent a jack hammer and bust it apart. holla
October 9th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Beechams Gay Lover Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
one time beechy dawg and i put on alien masks and i cornholed him. it was pretty fun
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Careful you don’t contract bungholereah.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Good Evening Raider fans.
Please allow me a moment to make my introduction. My name..is Nikolai Popov. I am from the Ukrainian city of Dszblotzuk. My family and I are heep big Raider fans. We love the Raiders very mucho.
I enjoy very much the …how you say… “beyotches” that I find on your strange but appealing websites.
In Ukraine they ban such ..how you say….nasty things such as this.
I’m fixin to get…how you say…straight fly with some bizzies in my Ukranian hizzy.
Gonna probably soak my..how you say…nads on a chilled bottle of cheap vodka.
Unfortunately I have been having some…how you say…bowell problems of late, so I no doubt will be writing some song lyrics when I am how you say…pooping in the outhouse in a momento.
I will be happy to share them with you when I am finished.
We don’t have ..how you say…toilet paper where I am from so we use the Sears catalog.
I soon make big explosion…
CHERNOBYL AINT GOT NUTHIN ON ME WHUT WHUTSKI
October 9th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RRRAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDERRRRRRSSSSSS!!!!!
October 9th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
This is the week the Raiders break out of da funk!
October 9th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Atlanta can’t run. They can’t pass block. Raiders all the way baby!!
October 9th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
We will catch y’all later. Gonna head on over to Naddies Nad Soakin Salon and get a little r and r (if ya catch my drift) and then get wasted on some bud lite. They always treat a big dawg properly.
MO DIGGITY
October 9th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
DHB, Moore, Criner, Hagan and Streator. Myers, Ausberry we got tons of weapons.
October 9th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
PMPP in full effect takin to the toilet. Holla
October 9th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Eye In The Sky Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
If you imagine Beeech as this guy it is a lot more tolerable:
http://images.zap2it.com/images/movie-31926/malibus-most-wanted-21.jpg
Why is that chick on the right taking a dump…and feeling so sad?
October 9th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
thats not a chick thats a gender bender dude we picked up in venice beach. beechy sucked that dude off
October 9th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Oh…
October 9th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Hey Raider Guy,
You predict anything interesting to happen with this team? Free agent splash, surprising cuts? How about a move to LA?
I need something interesting.
I’m a fan…I need this team to provide me with some entertainment.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Raider guy Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Eye In The Sky Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
If you imagine Beeech as this guy it is a lot more tolerable:
http://images.zap2it.com/images/movie-31926/malibus-most-wanted-21.jpg
Why is that chick on the right taking a dump…and feeling so sad?
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That dude takin a dump is Missus Beeecham.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
YALLA
if yawl had to push out a lawg the way i do, youd be hurtin. but i drop ‘em with ease. i just get focussed and zoned in when i roll one. thats my game face.
SHIZZLE ON THE HIZZLE FO BIZZLE, WIZZLE
October 9th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Raiders can string together some wins in the coming weeks! RRRRAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDERRRRRRSSSSS!!!!!
October 9th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Atlanta has a bye week after us. I bet they have already checked out.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Raiders odds of winning Superbowl 800 to 1.
This with only a quarter of the regular season gone.
It’s an absolute DISGRACE.
Only the Jaguars and Browns are worse at 1000 to 1.
Reggie has a big job on his hands turning this train wreck of a franchise into playoff contenders.
(source Betfair.com)
October 9th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Egads……all of Beeechy’s contacts have suddenly come out of the woodwork. Oh well, they are sort of a kindly lot.
For some reason I like Beeecham’s Gay Lover the best………..nooooo, now don’t get the wrong idea……I am just saying……
October 9th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Btw guys, you should know that you have possibly invaded KK’s privacy; it’s called public disclosure of private facts. An actionable tort, meaning he could sue you.
Constitutionally speaking, every person in this country has the right to just be left alone.
By investigating facts that are privy to KK such as the size of his house, putting his photo online etc, then posting them on the net, you have publicly disclosed KK’s private facts.
There are 2 true defenses to this tort: 1) if those facts are newsworthy they can be revealed; and 2) if those facts can be accessed by public record they are not considered private.
I am just saying, you have to be careful.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
So if you expose the size of someone’s schlong that invades their privacy? Cuz Beechys Gay Lover said some stuff. Now the size of a deuce would be more interesting than a schlong.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Who is this pathetic guy , that has all the time in this world to make different identities and talk with himself all night long and every single night
October 9th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
I recall seeing KK post lots of links to his realtor site, directing everyone to his picture, and his full name, while posting what area he lives.
Pretty much his own doing.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Atlanta has a bye week after us. I bet they have already checked out.
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So, instead of 6-0 going into the bye, you think they’ll be ok with 5-1?
I think they’ll wnat to go out with a bang
October 10th, 2012 at 12:03 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 9th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I can appreciate being positive but Greg Papa said this wk on ‘Raiders Report’ that “Tyvon Branch is palying good football for you” in talking with Jason Tarver.
Add that to Knapp telling us the offense “is making good strides”.
I realize now no matter how bad we are or what our record is, we’ll be told ad nauseum that everyone is playing well, everyone is getting better, etc. etc. etc.
I don’t know why i even listen to anything anybody says about anything from the Raiders.
I know what I see.
They’re not fooling anybody with that b.s.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly!
Fun attending last weeks sweep of Texas for the Division and fun being at the game tonight.
We need tomorrows game to have a chance at game 5.
Griffin needs to step it up!
Go A’s!
October 10th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Been trying to heal the wounds Raider Nation.It’s been a tough season and it’s bigger that Greg “My Offense Always Takes A” Knapp!
Idiot Head Coach was interviewed(see Raiders.com)and was asked if he and his coaches watched any film on the Atl Falcons…the idiot said NO! He then was asked did they work out or look at any players over the bye…NO again!! Mr Davis’ spirit will not rest this year.How can you be COMMITTED TO EXCELLENCE,when you take a bye week and go on a freakin’ vacation after looking at this mess?
Reggie is so stubborn that he doesnt want to look at Chris Johnson? He was dealing with his family issues last season…is he ready to play? Can someone get some info on why he hasnt been brought in? HE CAN HELP US!!!!! Hell,I’d take Lito Sheppard or Bodden.
It is gonna be a long season NATION,just maybe we can win a few games with this mess of a FRONT OFFICE in place.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:56 am
*than
October 10th, 2012 at 1:40 am
Idiot Head Coach was interviewed(see Raiders.com)and was asked if he and his coaches watched any film on the Atl Falcons…the idiot said NO! He then was asked did they work out or look at any players over the bye…NO again!
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DA was too busy “evaluating” – no time to worry about the Falcons.
October 10th, 2012 at 2:03 am
The bye week wasn’t long enough to fully “evaluate” the 3rd worst team in the NFL.
It will most likely take until the end of the regular season for a full and proper “evaluation” to be completed.
October 10th, 2012 at 2:45 am
Think I might “accidentally” sleep in this sunday.
October 10th, 2012 at 4:23 am
I think the Raiders will find a way to win this weekend. I think it works in our favor that Atlanta is undefeated right now and we’re huge underdogs expected to get blown out he rest of the season and net a Top 5 draft pick..
nobody respects us. This is a “prove you belong” in the NFL type game where we have the chance to make a statement, following what hopes to be the worst game of the season versus Peyton Manning in Denver
October 10th, 2012 at 4:23 am
Hey DAV, remember when you posted the link to that PFF article about Tyvon Branch? You claimed he “shut down” Gronkowski and that he’s one of the best safeties in the league because of it.
Do you still feel that way ?? LOL
October 10th, 2012 at 5:16 am
There are 2 true defenses to this tort: 1) if those facts are newsworthy they can be revealed; and 2) if those facts can be accessed by public record they are not considered private.
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It’s all public record.
October 10th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I guess my two weeks off hasn’t really done anything Raider wise…but hey…I was doing The Bernie 2400 miles across the Pacific last Wednesday!
October 10th, 2012 at 6:07 am
HEY HWNRDR,WELCOME BACK MAN..
October 10th, 2012 at 6:09 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 6:07 am
HEY HWNRDR,WELCOME BACK MAN..
Thanks, Dirt Lot!
October 10th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Mornin’ Nation.
If you put a gun to my head, I still think the Falcons win, but I’ve done some reading & I’m a bit more optimistic than I have been the Raiders might be able to escape with a win.
I read on another site that the Falcons are a Cam Newton fumble & an RGIII concussion away from being 3-2.
You look at their other games and see that they’ve beat up on a sch!t Chiefs team and a mediocre Chargers team. They jumped out early against Manning and Donks but had to hold on for a win.
Basically they’re overrated. If the Raiders had Bartell and Spencer in, I might be tempted to pick the big upset. As it is, since the Falcons do have weaknesses that can be exploited, I think the team’s performance will go a long way toward telling us just how much evaluation and tweaking went on during the by week.
October 10th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I’ve said it all week and I’ll say it again: ball control ball control ball control.
Atlanta can’t score if the offense is standing on the sidelines.
Find the run game & fix the third down issues, this game is winnable.
October 10th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Any Given Sunday, PA!
October 10th, 2012 at 6:50 am
I think the Raiders could win too. NO, I ain’t crazy….That’s just how they are. They could win Sunday, then lay a MASSIVE TURD at home against Jacksonville. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if it played out that way.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:06 am
We’re Raider fans used to a ‘beat to your own drum tradition’. We just needed a little help re-loading, not a total overhaul and rebuild. The team was poised. Now we’re goin vanilla. It’s disguting.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Some apologists say look at Houston or Atlanta. They waited while they rebuilt. Well, we’re the Raiders. Different story. Besides, it starts with coaching. Look at last year. A good D coach and we’re in the playoffs. WTH
October 10th, 2012 at 7:09 am
If the Raiders don’t get humiliated on Sunday, I will be shocked. Won’t buy the ’scheme’ thing because if we win, it will be Palmer and McFaddens doings.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Break time. Gotta go.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:11 am
2010, every 7-9 to 9-7 team failed to make the playoffs in 2011.
From last year, the only 8-8 non-playoff teams that look like they might make the playoffs are the Chargers and Cardinals, maybe Eagles.
The Titans were 9-7 last year, and re-loaded with the same team and even added Kam Wimbley.
They may have the a top 3 draft pick next year.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:13 am
You look back over the years, waaaaaay more teams that finish 8-8 go sour the next year instead of into the playoffs.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:17 am
That is true, JFB!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Good point JFB. just sick and tired of all the face plants. Will it ever stop?
October 10th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Will it ever stop?
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How this team competes on Sunday will be a good “tell” of what is to come, at least with this current staff and some of the roster.
A faceplant, with the season in balance and off a bye is unacceptable. Quit frankly, a close loss with the team fighting to the end, is acceptable, being that the Falcons are massively more talented than us and at home.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:25 am
You have to look at the other team as well.
Falcons can control the ball too, Michael Turner’s annual mid-late season slide hasn’t started yet, he’s gonna keep our D honest, then you have White and Julio who can beat you on short, medium or deep routes and Tony Gonzalez working the middle, plus an above average OL and a no-huddle attack that can wear you down fast.
We haven’t played an Offense this good and balanced yet and we’re already giving up 31 ppg, this game could be over by halftime.
Looking back to last week’s game, Washington scored 14 of their 17 points on a Pick 6 by Ryan Kerrigan and on a busted coverage long TD from Cousins to Moss, those were freak plays and not the result of Atlanta showing a particular weakness.
Besides, last week vs the Redskins may have been the Falcons “come down to earth” game where things didn’t particularly bounce their way and they still managed to win, I would expect them to be focused and ready to go on sunday.
That being said,you can run on Atl’s front 7, they are undersized and play much better with a lead when they can just go after the QB and force turnovers, a big day from McFadden and the OL is our only hope.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:34 am
We need to offset the talent gap with Atlanta, with good ST’s play, winning the turnover battle (somehow) and getting a big play or two offensively.
We aren’t going to beat them matching them drive for drive. Won’t happen.
However, the notion it will be “over at halftime” is ridiculous to me. We are coming off a bye, in the NFL, that is worth like 7-10 points almost.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:35 am
So far, it seems that when they’re playing “Motivated” and resolute….even THEN, the biggest deficit they can overcome is 10 points. That’s at their BEST. If at any point in ANY game -regardless of opponent- they go down 2 touchdowns, and have to give the ball back ie: punt/turnover ; I feel that they’re DONE.
None of this 21 point comeback Bullsh*t like the Colts pulled on Sunday.
Touchdown and field goal?….ahhhh maybe they can hang around and pull one out.
But 2 touchdowns and the wheels fall off and they go straight to Sh*t.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Ok, Im still the leader in the clubhouse with our row 1 banner contest,..you shut-ins still have lots of time…the winner gets the row 5 pair for Jax,..so lets get this going,…rules are, best banner for the Jax game to be placed in a very prominant place, lots of tv time,..you have about a week. Heres what you have to beat.
Obamma/Biden 2012
Gruden/Allen (Bruce) 2013
Good luck!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Klas lost all money in betting this year. Thinking bout taking out loan and placing it all on Falcons to cover the spread. Klas be rollin’ large on Monday!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Obamma/Biden 2012
Gruden/Allen (Bruce) 2013
Good luck!
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Just snooze baby!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Obamma/Biden 2012
Gruden/Allen (Bruce) 2013
Good luck!
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Reggie and Allen = Norwegian Bert and Ernie
October 10th, 2012 at 7:45 am
However, the notion it will be “over at halftime” is ridiculous to me. We are coming off a bye, in the NFL, that is worth like 7-10 points almost.
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I guess that means oddmakers would have us somewhere between + 15 to 19 point underdogs if we weren’t coming off a bye then?.
Look, I’m holding hope for the upset as much as anyone, but looking at the first 5 weeks is not helping.
But, like I said, get to 4-4 somehow, make a push in the 2nd half.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Weren’t we down 10 points to the Steelers in the 3rd quarter?
Agree that it is tough on the road to do so, but than, who in the NFL is overcoming 14 point deficits on the road?
Only the elite of the elite.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I guess that means oddmakers would have us somewhere between + 15 to 19 point underdogs if we weren’t coming off a bye then?.
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You don’t see many 19 point spreads in the NFL, but if both us AND the Falcons were coming off a bye, you would see the line closer to 14 or so, IMO.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:48 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!!
and my GreenParty brothers !!!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Raider’s beating Falcons as likely as Klas getting sun tan.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:50 am
On a sidenote, I am working with the PD department in Durango, CO today, and my work-day was just cut in half as the first lady is visiting and speaking today, and every officer will be on the detail.
Long live the first family!!!!!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Sweet deal JFB. Now you can spend more time with your second family! Us!!!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:54 am
LOL, Packer player says “Refs are out to get us this year.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/10/packers-player-says-refs-are-out-to-get-us/
Raiders are becoming Packers and Packers are becoming Raiders.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Now I don’t have to pretend to be sick to go watch the Giants game!!!!
October 10th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Good Morning Mike!
October 10th, 2012 at 8:02 am
I knew by the end of the week we’d have the majority here somehow thinking we we win this Sunday.
We are coming off a humiliating pounding at the hands of Denver and are 1-3. Playing on the road in an east coast game (which we almost always lose) against a 5-0, STRONG SB contender, without our starting corners against a QB that is arguably better than the one who just shredded us.
ON PAPER, it looks like we’re looking at a thorough lambasting.
I love the optimism, but even in my most kool aid drinking state it is hard to even conceive of us having a shot at winning this one.
That being said, I HOPE for a miracle…as always.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Now you can spend more time with your second family! Us!!!
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Believe it or not ol ‘Klasy, you might be my 1.5 family.
On my dad’s side, I have some Nordic stuff, and our last names have the same amount of syllables and even rhyme.
Scary huh?
October 10th, 2012 at 8:03 am
McKenzie in an interview said that Mark Davis and he understand patience and they know that they are moving in the right direction now.
I’d say that we aren’t moving in the right direction. The last 3 years in a row we went to Denver and smoked them! We piled up rushing yards like it was a walk in the park. And we were blowing them away.
This year we go in there and get beaten in all facets of the game, including not even able to run the ball.
That’s WRONG DIRECTION I think, but they’re so fixated on “being right” that they can’t look really and work things back to the way they were working.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 7:54 am
LOL, Packer player says “Refs are out to get us this year.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/10/packers-player-says-refs-are-out-to-get-us/
Raiders are becoming Packers and Packers are becoming Raiders.
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Nah, we’re becoming the 2nd hand Packers. They’re still the packers.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Johnny,
Come Sunday around 2:30 pm MST, after a 30-27 Raider victory, I am going to demand you go stand in the corner, put on some John Cougar and cry, and reflect on the level of ninni-ness you have displayed in here the last month.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:07 am
whats up there Hwnrdr ??
how have you been brother ??
got my tickets to the Raider/ravens game !!
damn shame you wont be coming out this way
this year.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Hey Mike,
I just came back from Hawaii visiting my family! And I know…realy wanted to come out to that game!
October 10th, 2012 at 8:14 am
ninni-ness
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LMFAO !!!
October 10th, 2012 at 8:16 am
RIP Mongo.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Formula to winning sunday: Establish run, stop run, play good ST (KR TD by TJ22 would be amazing) get a good rush on RYAN..CAROLINA @ WASHINGTON laid a pretty good blueprint down on how to play D against these guys, hopefully we learned something..
October 10th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Formula for winning Sunday: Entire Atl team gets kidnapped and locked in a vault until Sunday night.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Formula for Niners winning Sunday: Show up.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:32 am
“Mongo only pawn in game of life.”
October 10th, 2012 at 8:34 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Formula for Niners winning Sunday: Show up.
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Ur one he11 of a Faag brother lol, but u aight..
October 10th, 2012 at 8:34 am
R.i.p Alex.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Power rankings of remaining schedule:
Atl: 4
Jags: 32
KC: 29
TB: 26
Ravens: 5
NO: 21
Cin: 16
Clev: 30
Den: 14
KC: 29
Car: 24
SD 18
I see 6 or 7 wins left on schedule even if we start 1-4.
8-8 and I would be happy for Allen/Napster
October 10th, 2012 at 8:56 am
From Raiders Fan/ Internet Radio Show Host Ray Perez aka Dr.Death
Hello all! many of you may know who Rick Tripp is, “potential developer” to Oakland Stadiums. he has agree to come on my show to do an interview. I know this is in the middle of the Oakland Athletics play off game and I can not re schedule my show but if you can not listen in live you can always go back to listen to the interview. Hopefully this interview can provide new insight to us fans. Please feel free to spread the word to others
Ray Perez aka Dr.Death
Here is the link to my radio show for October 10th Wednesday 7pm
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drdeath26/2012/10/11/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly
October 10th, 2012 at 9:01 am
anybody thinks Huff Lee and Hanson somehow get better by Sunday?
October 10th, 2012 at 9:06 am
While I am in Durango for a few days, the Wifey is in Vegas until Sunday.
That means your buddy can “Fire” on some college games again!!!
All you gambling mavens, let me know what the lock of the century is.
Stanford? USC? Over in the WVU/TT game?
October 10th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Inonewordraider Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 9:01 am
anybody thinks Huff Lee and Hanson somehow get better by Sunday?
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Klas does. I bet they practiced real hard in bye week.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Webster’s dad die
October 10th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Where is Taiwan Jones? All I heard about was how fast he was and now he’s nowhere to be found except special teams? Because he muffed a kickoff return and screwed up a reverse in the first game? Why isn’t Chekwa off the practice squad and on this team? He simply can’t be worse than what we have in there.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Here’s how the game will go down:
Our oline will look much better running the zbs as will mcfadden
our passing game will be on point with moore and dhb finally fully healthy playing together, myers/ausberry/reece/streater contributing as well
dline will stuff turner shaughnessey and carter will make an impact
mcclain will play like he did first game of the season other lb’s will too
our secondary will get smoked
October 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Cant wait for Sunday!!!…going to be awesome…going rock fishing in the Monterey Bay,..Ling,..red snapper,…rock…you guys ebjoy the Raider game,..heres my prediction…
Atlanta 52
Oakland 13
October 10th, 2012 at 9:29 am
1046.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Johnny,
Come Sunday around 2:30 pm MST, after a 30-27 Raider victory, I am going to demand you go stand in the corner, put on some John Cougar and cry, and reflect on the level of ninni-ness you have displayed in here the last month.
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Oh come on! You are one of the ones preaching objectivity and “patience” with the new regime and how it’s “gonna take time” and now you’re getting on guys who ARE being objective?
I did not predict Raiders would lose…i’m just saying I ON PAPER I don’t see how we did it based on the performance of our beloved Raiders.
I sure as hell won’t cry if they win…i’ll be doing jumping jacks and back flips of happiness.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Is it more “ninny” to want and expect the Raiders to win NOW..and show some competitiveness and to be “understanding and patient” while our team gets it’s bearings?
I’m on the go out and kick some arse NOW side of things.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:35 am
LOL, Packer player says “Refs are out to get us this year.”
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Lol. Aww, poor poor Packers.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:38 am
If it would guarantee the Raiders would win if I did this I would promise to walk around downtown Oakland wearing nothing but diapers and a John Holmes bouncing dildo cap…I’d have to figure out where they sell those, but all the same.
I’m sure one of the weird named posters from last night would point me in the right direction.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:41 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Cant wait for Sunday!!!…going to be awesome…going rock fishing in the Monterey Bay,..Ling,..red snapper,…rock…you guys ebjoy the Raider game,..heres my prediction…
Atlanta 52
Oakland 13
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Lol, weren’t you the one saying I was pretending like these Raider losses weren’t getting to me by talking about my awesome Sunday? I see you’re getting into the spirit yourself. Good job.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@DJ Johnny
Every been to Mo Dailey’s Bar in Chicago?
Frat Brother owns (co-owns?) it. Going to be there next Sunday to watch football.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Lol, DJ.
You’ll have to forgive the forever optimists. They want their efforts rewarded when we do win and to have the doubters punished.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Atlanta 52
Oakland 13
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I don’t think the Falcons are going to put up that many points up. Not saying they cannot, just saying they won’t. More likely, like a High School game, everyone on the Falcons is going to get a chance to play.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Just saw a Tide commercial with dad and kid sporting Raider gear. Guess we do need to clean up our act.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:07 am
1071.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@DJ Johnny
Every been to Mo Dailey’s Bar in Chicago?
Frat Brother owns (co-owns?) it. Going to be there next Sunday to watch football.
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I”ve never been there. South side? Bridgeport?(Dailey’s neighborhood).
Did u say you live out this way?
October 10th, 2012 at 10:07 am
LOL, Packer player says “Refs are out to get us this year.”
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Lol. Aww, poor poor Packers.
>>>>>
No kidding… I hear this all the time from Packer fans. I’m like, NOW YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE A RAIDER FAN!
Nobody ever felt sorry for us.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:12 am
1075.DJ Johnny Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:07 am
1071.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@DJ Johnny
Every been to Mo Dailey’s Bar in Chicago?
Frat Brother owns (co-owns?) it. Going to be there next Sunday to watch football.
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I”ve never been there. South side? Bridgeport?(Dailey’s neighborhood).
Did u say you live out this way?
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No, I went to Lake Forest and lived in Chicago for about 10 years. Going out there next week for Lake Forest game, Football at Mo Daileys and Bears/Lions Monday night game.
It is 6070 N. Northwest Hwy. Northside?
http://modaileys.com/
October 10th, 2012 at 10:14 am
However, the notion it will be “over at halftime” is ridiculous to me. We are coming off a bye, in the NFL, that is worth like 7-10 points almost
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Haven’t the Raiders lost like nine in a row coming off the bye week?
Just asking. If that is true we are definitely overdue(Kool -aid perspective)
October 10th, 2012 at 10:15 am
@ DJ Johnny
I take it you have no love for the Packers?
Have to admit I like the Packers before moving to Chicago. My cousin played DE and backed up Reggie White for a couple years. That was until I met their fans…
October 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
I think teams coming off byes have a loosing record.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:17 am
No, I went to Lake Forest and lived in Chicago for about 10 years. Going out there next week for Lake Forest game, Football at Mo Daileys and Bears/Lions Monday night game.
It is 6070 N. Northwest Hwy. Northside?
http://modaileys.com/
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That’s pretty far Northside.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:19 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:15 am
@ DJ Johnny
I take it you have no love for the Packers?
Have to admit I like the Packers before moving to Chicago. My cousin played DE and backed up Reggie White for a couple years. That was until I met their fans…
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I like to see the Packers win. I get so sick of hearing about the Bears.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I like the Packers. The fans own the team.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:25 am
@Albert Bigelow Paine
Pretty funny, for most of the span I lived there the Bears were terrible! They had a couple good years, went to the Bears/Eagles playoff game. But for the most part the Bears fans were pretty quiet…
October 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
The Raiders are horrible coming off of a buy. They play like they are still on one. I wish this game was later so I could drink during it.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:29 am
O dog !! the GreenParty V.P. in the house !!!
how ya doing today sir ??
October 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:25 am
@Albert Bigelow Paine
Pretty funny, for most of the span I lived there the Bears were terrible! They had a couple good years, went to the Bears/Eagles playoff game. But for the most part the Bears fans were pretty quiet…
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I went to the Bears/Raiders game in 2003. Bears fans were very obnoxious. All they did was complain about how bad team was and then they won with Kordell Stewart and they just thought they were the greatest. Best part, though, was after the game when Raider fans congregated on Field Museum steps and were chanting Bears suck.
My roommate at the time was working at the stadium. He saw Al Davis walking out of his box after the game. Said he looked pretty frail. I was so jealous of him.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:32 am
1085.morilla Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
The Raiders are horrible coming off of a buy. They play like they are still on one. I wish this game was later so I could drink during it.
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Just start drinking Sat. night and “stay up late” for the Raiders game….that way you aren’t drinking in the morning.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:34 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:32 am
1085.morilla Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
The Raiders are horrible coming off of a buy. They play like they are still on one. I wish this game was later so I could drink during it.
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Just start drinking Sat. night and “stay up late” for the Raiders game….that way you aren’t drinking in the morning.
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Record the game and watch it Sunday night.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:41 am
ODB,
High as a kite and doing great. I salute you sir!
Long Live The ODB!!
Tx and Dave are MIA, so we need to take action. Burn all the trees looking for them.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Tx and Dave are MIA, so we need to take action. Burn all the trees looking for them.
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A lot of guys went MIA after the season started. What the hell happened to BSJ?
October 10th, 2012 at 10:43 am
morilla Says: The Raiders are horrible coming off of a buy. They play like they are still on one. I wish this game was later so I could drink during it.//////////Beer. It’s not just for breakfast anymore.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Raider O Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:41 am
ODB,
High as a kite and doing great. I salute you sir!
Long Live The ODB!!
Tx and Dave are MIA, so we need to take action. Burn all the trees looking for them.
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i will start the forest fire sir !!
October 10th, 2012 at 10:50 am
morilla Says: The Raiders are horrible coming off of a buy. They play like they are still on one. I wish this game was later so I could drink during it
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that is one of the good things about living on the east coast. start drinking at noon and be about half sh1tfaced by the time the game starts !!!
October 10th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Speaking of forest fires…lol…there were alot of that where I was
October 10th, 2012 at 10:55 am
lol Hwnrdr. guess thats why i could never go !! if i went i would never come back !!!
October 10th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 7:13 am
You look back over the years, waaaaaay more teams that finish 8-8 go sour the next year instead of into the playoffs.
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We had back to back 8-8 seasons, you look back at Raiders history every time we had back to back 8-8 seasons are a record close to we then went on a pretty good run, we never went backwards. I know this is different because its a new regime, but we as Raider fans get a feeling we are close when we have back to back 8-8 seasons and for good reason because history says so
October 10th, 2012 at 11:12 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 10:55 am
lol Hwnrdr. guess thats why i could never go !! if i went i would never come back !!!
LOL
October 10th, 2012 at 11:19 am
1097.realtruraider Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 7:13 am
You look back over the years, waaaaaay more teams that finish 8-8 go sour the next year instead of into the playoffs.
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We had back to back 8-8 seasons, you look back at Raiders history every time we had back to back 8-8 seasons are a record close to we then went on a pretty good run, we never went backwards. I know this is different because its a new regime, but we as Raider fans get a feeling we are close when we have back to back 8-8 seasons and for good reason because history says so
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Don’t forget the 8-8 last yr. wasn’t really 8-8…if anything a very weak 8-8.
You can’t the games that were close cuz they could’ve gone either way. Plus, you can’t count the game in SD cuz Palmer was playing in his backyard from his home in LaJolla.
Yes. Somebody actually posted that.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:22 am
This season isn’t over yet. You can’t yet call it a failure following an 8-8 season until they have finished playing the games.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am
1100.Just Win Baby Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:22 am
This season isn’t over yet. You can’t yet call it a failure following an 8-8 season until they have finished playing the games.
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…or until we lose our 9th game at least.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am
ESPN just ranked Oakland Coliseum 2nd easiest venue to play in. Tough to argue based on results of the past decade. Abismal.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:27 am
*Abysmal
October 10th, 2012 at 11:29 am
The Raiders are warming up to “Eye of the Tiger”…yo Adrian!
October 10th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Some sports arguments are just impossible to work with or even deserve debating with a person about.
I remember a Bear fan saying on the PFT blog that all the Packers success from ‘92 on doesn’t count cuz “They had Favre…if they didn’t have Favre Packers wouldn’t have won anything..you can’t count that”.
You just have to scroll on by idiocy like that, Not worth the time to even engage that.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am
-You know if the Bulls didn’t have Jordan they wouldn’t have won anything.
-W/o Brady the Patriots would’ve sucked all these yr’s.
(possibly valid argument in regard to the greatness of Belichik actually)
-W/O Kobe the Lakers don’t beat the Celtics…period.
-If the Raiders would’ve won those games they lost last yr. we would’ve won the SB ….period!
October 10th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Good comment last night (#566) by 2sense. Great handle also.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:39 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am
ESPN just ranked Oakland Coliseum 2nd easiest venue to play in. Tough to argue based on results of the past decade. Abismal.
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That is another Raider myth. You always hear announcers and players talk about how tough it is to play in the “Black Hole” with those crazy fans.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:42 am
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October 10th, 2012 at 11:45 am
It always seemed to me the fans at the OCO rile up opposing teams even more to beat us at home.
They get out on the field maybe a little nervous at first, then they realize that “hey, these guys aren’t really that good” and they proceed to open up a can of whoop azz.
We’d be alot better at home if we could back up the “Black Hole” with intimidating play ON THE FIELD.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:39 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am
ESPN just ranked Oakland Coliseum 2nd easiest venue to play in. Tough to argue based on results of the past decade. Abismal.
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That is another Raider myth. You always hear announcers and players talk about how tough it is to play in the “Black Hole” with those crazy fans.
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I think there’s an advantage, but it’s been mostly negated by terrible teams. The victory against Pitt, for instance. Do we win that on the road? No way.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
It just seems that we have less of a home field advantage than other teams.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I will be interested to see if Andre Carter can add something to the pass rush.
It would be awesome if New Englad let one get away like that.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Keep in mind the Raiders USED to be horrible off the bye. They are an ENTIRELY different franchise now and trends and past realities are no longer valid.
I think the reason they were horrible off the bye is the total lack of accountibility the players enjoyed from Al.
I hoping that is changing/has changed.
The east coast travel stuff is still real though. That’s league wide problem based on human physiology. Hopefully they head east early….
October 10th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
1 down 2 more to go A’s!
October 10th, 2012 at 11:54 am
The east coast travel stuff is still real though. That’s league wide problem based on human physiology. Hopefully they head east early….
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The league could at least move those games to later in the day when West Coast teams have to travel east.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Although the 49ers had no trouble destroying the Jets.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DMAC !! The GreenParty Prez in the house !!!!
good day to you sir !!
V.P. Raider O has us burning down trees looking for Tx and Dave.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Although the 49ers had no trouble destroying the Jets.
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Whiners didn’t travel. They stayed in the east coast. It was a smart move 2 to.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Tx, Dave, and BSJ all joined all went to hang out with Kell in Switzerland.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Morning DMAC, before you get testy.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
DMAC Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Although the 49ers had no trouble destroying the Jets.
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Whiners didn’t travel. They stayed in the east coast. It was a smart move 2 to.
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Raiders should leave 2 days earlier for Atlanta.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DMAC !! The GreenParty Prez in the house !!!!
good day to you sir !!
V.P. Raider O has us burning down trees looking for Tx and Dave.
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What up ODB!!!
Fenna get toasted for the A’s game 2day. I’ll be there to show my support.
Keep the infield dirt till’ these clowns earn it!
October 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
@1117, yes but an anamoly that was. If you look at the league stats for west coast teams going east over long period of time, it’s like a W/L of 25/100. Of course the other factor could be the NFC & AFC Worst have had some seriously sucky teams in the last decade or more with only a few exceptions.
Yes the NFL should be OBLIGED to make the west coast traveling team play later in the day. Might happen, if the wasn’t a massive east coast bias so prevalent….
October 10th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Morning DMAC, before you get testy.
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What up
October 10th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
1112.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
It just seems that we have less of a home field advantage than other teams.
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I really think the “black hole” patrons really fire up the opposing team to wanna play that much harder to beat us.
That…and our talent level just hasn’t been there.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Mark Davis said that he needs a new stadium “yesterday” and he has strressed it is a big deal with the future of the Raiders.
I don’t know where we are at with this, but don’t be shocked if Mark decides to pursue talks with the LA people if the “powers that be” don’t get their act together….soon.
Also, should we read anything into that “LA City Walk” Raiders meet and greet autograph signing taking place in LA…where hundreds of Raider fans showed up?
Don’t shoot me, i’m just asking.