Final: Falcons 23, Raiders 20
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 14th, 2012 at 4:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Sorry for the delay . . . issues with Internet specfically related to posting on the blog. But as Carson Palmer might say, no excuses. It’s on my shoulders.
Anyway, here’s a link to the game story in Bay Area News Group papers.
Here’s a link to a story by correspondent Guy Curtwright on an Oakland pass defense that picked off its first three passes of the season and improved dramatically but gave up just enough ground in the end to Matt Ryan for Matt Bryant to kick a 55-yard field goal.
Here’s a link to the Raiders notebook, with Carson Palmer taking the blame for the defeat.
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October 14th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RAIDERS
October 14th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I am outro… 1 NATION
October 14th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Give Carson Campbell his bus ticket.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Shut up Sandusky44 Palmer is not the problem.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Watching Deliverance. Ok, quick, what’s your favorite part??
Yep, mine too. It’s coming up.
SOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Chubby little cheeks, to die for.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Who ya taking?…be careful, last time that happened you gave some illiterate retard 60 million bucks. LMAO
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Al’s dead, so there’s nothing to be gain from rehashing the JaMarcus pick.
Your bigger concern should be Oakland getting back to the Super Bowl sooner than your beloved Niners.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Jerry, screw your colleague who’s trying to puff his pom poms for Matt Ryan. For Christ’s sake the Raiders were in a prevent and gave them the 55 yarder, that Bryant muffed if not for Allen trying the tired timeout rouse. Ryan was shut down today.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
McFadden runs better in a power running scheme.
Everyone knows this except for Knapp and Allen.
They should both be fired.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Palmer is not the problem with this team…
Executing the plays, special teams especially punt coverage and receiving is in need of some tuning up…but this team looks ready to go…
4-4 after next 3 weeks…
GO RAIDERS
October 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
power running scheme with McFadden: 8-8, pretty much forever.
Zone blocking scheme with Goodson: 8-8 this year, 10-6 next year, 14-2 and Super Bowl year after that.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I have been watching pro football for 50 years, and Knapp is the worst OC I have ever seen.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Weak sauce sully, stick to your guns bra. You are one of the main Carson apologist now your bailing & back peddaling.
Just pathetic. These Carson worshippers seeing their ridiculous ideas of superbowls parades explode into orange & black flames. Now they are jumping ship like the rare they really are.
ALEX & SULLY…… WHERE IS THE INSTANT UPGRADE?????????
What a joke. Palmer sucks
October 14th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I have an idea, how about we send McFadden away right along with the power blocking scheme? We don’t need McFadden. He isn’t anything close to what he was drafted to be.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Campbell does suck, I agree.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I would say our OL is more responsible for the loss than Palmer.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
power running scheme with McFadden: 8-8, pretty much forever.
Zone blocking scheme with Goodson: 8-8 this year, 10-6 next year, 14-2 and Super Bowl year after that.
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Remember that the proper term is “angle blocking,” not “power blocking.”
People only like it because “power blocking” sounds cool. Most have ZERO knowledge about what makes the ZBS different from angle blocking.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I just emailed Becker. All you pathetic troll fckers are busted. I’ll be King of this blog once all the trolls are gone.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
WHEN IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH MCFADDEN? WHEN? WHAT ARE WE ON, YEAR 5? YEAR F’N 5? AND HE’S NOT THE FREAKING SECOND COMING OF MARSHALL FAULK YET, OR BETTER, CONSIDERING THE HYPE AROUND HIM?
Only this franchise. Only this f’n franchise. I swear.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
GOD DAMMIT MAN. 5 YEARS. HE’S IN THE LEAGUE 5 YEARS. SUPPOSED TO BE MARSHALL FAULK. HE GETS THE OCCASIONAL 10 YARD RIP THEN GETS ABOUT A DOZEN OR SO 2 YARD GAINS.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
If you atre a whiner fan, cheer up!!
You can watch two real football teams go at it in 15 minutes
Watch and learn how a SB contender plays
October 14th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Stop with that weak ass ” Carson is not the problem” crap already. THE MAN IS 5-10 in Oakland, 2-4 in the division and has thrown a downright laughable 39 ints over his last 30 games!!!
Come on! This isn’t a problem?!?!?
October 14th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
# 15…twocents…agree… Not the sole reason but a good portion of the responsibility … Olines been very inconsistent… Disappointing
October 14th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Mistic you are weak ass. Enough with your JC bull sht. Have you even traveled internationally?
October 14th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Carson worshippers noteably, & of course predictably silent.
Lefty, lofty,alex7, try some reality, raider rob, raider Dave, antipsy, jb, inone… & the rest
WHERE THE FUGG IS MY INSTANT UPGRADE??????????
Carson stinks to high heaven, can’t wait to see how Jerry mck, & cork try & spin this for their hero.
Worst trade in football history, closing in on worst trade in sports history
October 14th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Too $hort baby, I’m so hard
Pimpin’ these hoes on the boulevard
But I’m not here to tell ya bout me
I got a little story bout a nasty freak
She’s the kind of girl you think about in bed
Blowjob Betty givin’ real good head
October 14th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
So MR’s favorite scene in Deliverance is the scene of men engaged in carnal relations? LOL!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
There were plenty of reasons for today’s loss.. Not anyone player….
October 14th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
If you played football even at the high school level you never throw a ball in the flats inside the red zone that let to that interception for a touchdown today. I saw Jay Shroeder do it for the Raiders a few times when they were in L.A. and Carson Palmer reminds me of Jay Shroeder. Also, Greg Knapp should have known not to call a play like that.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Great pass out of the end zone to Moore for 50, signature Palmer.
The pick six at the moment of truth, signature Palmer.
Dazzle, pop, and fizzle.
He might not be “the” problem, but he’s not the answer either, and he was “the” problem today.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Kk,
I have had the priveledge of traving off shore twice. Ok I won’t bring up how jc was far superior to Carson in both wins & turnovers in his tenure.
I will however punish those that tried to sell me on the instant upgrade garbage that I knew was pure lunacy from the start.
Jfb, dmac, bay2la, & everybody else that dancers in the street when Palmer went down.
You have to admit this is putrid & doesnt come close to what we had last year.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
At least Al Davis is dead now. That’s something. I’m going to sleep. Too much rum.
Whut Whut, Holla!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raiders won today, white hats fk’d them.
I see improvement. Who the fk is #71 and #49?
Sully, don’t bother responding. K
October 14th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Raiders looked good today, especially considering they were playing Atlanta. I don’t think CP’s boneheaded INT lost the game since if you calculate the game, time wise, if Oakland had scored with an INT, Atlanta had plenty of to score following and tie the game.
In reality it was always coming down to the last minute field goal.
The loss can be blamed on Knapp and his insistence in almost exclusively using DMAC. When the ball is handed to Goodsen he seems to rip of 40 and 50 yard runs.
I keep telling everyone that DMAC is no elite back. He is an excellent back, but not great nor elite. You can’t base a game on his performance.
What isn’t working, won’t work, and until the second half of the 4th quarter it DMAC, DMAC, DMAC for little gain.
If dumbass Knapp knew how to use his players and call a game we would have beat down Alanta by 3, if not 4, TDs.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Serious questions must be asked of the coaching staff as well at this point. Giving up half time leads in some games being blown out in second halts of others.
Da not looking to good so far
October 14th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Palmer did his job he drove us down for a TD the D could not hold as usual and we lost.
The guy makes one bad throw you are all over him. Mike Vick has 11 turnovers in 5 games and no one is calling for him to be benched I would take Palmer over Vick and Cam Newton this year the way they are playing!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
…..if Oakland had scored WITHOUT*** the INT………
October 14th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Knapp didn’t fumble twice & throw a pick 6 …. again!
Lucky we didn’t get blown out, falcons tried to give it to us but Palmer gave it right back
SimPly putrid
October 14th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Imagine how good Palmer could be if he had a running game and time to throw the ball like Ryan has.
You tards are so blinded buy your own tainted opinions that you cannot see what the real issue is you just blame Palmer.
Good thing smart fella’s like you dolts are not running the team.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
1bad throw?!?!
Palmer was rattled by the pressure from the start. He audibles into sacks, & turned the ball over. Had atlanta taken this game seriously it wouldn’t have been close.
5-10 39 picks in 30 games
Wake your game up bra, Palmer is finished
October 14th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
The Raiders defense 3 interceptions today and the offense did not capitilized on it.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Damn look at those legs
October 14th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Mistic,
Don’t forget the easy TD pass that Palmer threw to Myers that bounced off his fkn chest. Perfect throw, should have have been 6 points.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Of course if Palmer had this if Palmer had that, when does it end?
More excuses more losses. More god awful qb play from your hero
October 14th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
So….D. Moore slipping and not making the catch is Palmers fault? ok
October 14th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Of course if Palmer had this if Palmer had that, when does it end?
More excuses more losses. More god awful qb play from your hero
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Marcus………………. come on mayne…I dont like Palmer either but didnt I tell entire blog he would never work with Knapp
October 14th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Mistic is in full meltdown mode lol. Just think if our D wouldn’t of played prevent and we went into OT with CP3 throwing a game winning TD,the guy/woman probably would of jumped off a bridge by now lol. He is so clueless its not even funny anymore, its just sad
October 14th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
If your stupid enough to sit here and blame Palmer for all of our problems when we are averaging 2.6 yards per carry I cant help you bro your football IQ is too low for us to converse any more.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Marcus….Palmer will never be a SB winning qb….but with a offense suited for him we at least have a chance…schit was fked in March….paid 12 mil for a 33 yr old…Reggie stinks
October 14th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Here you go mistic,
Veldheer misses his assignment causing Palmer to get blind sided just before he passes the ball, he fumbles. That CP’s fault??????
October 14th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
We have many issues that need to be addressed on this team and QB is not one of them right now.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I have been a Raiders fan for over 40 years and I am tired of this BS every week. The same BS over and over and over!! Man, when will this BS end!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Our back-up RBs are better suited for this scheme, neutralizing the threat that McFadden is. Better to just play the players that fit the scheme as Knapp doesn’t fit the scheme to maximize the talent on the players.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Easy to pick out a certain player from week to week and point the finger.
Prett easy to see that Willie Smith, Veldheer, and Palmer made key MENTAL errors that cosy us this game.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
We have many issues that need to be addressed on this team and QB is not one of them right now.
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So true.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
666,
At what point does the QB get blamed for an in ept offense?
October 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Palmer stinks, knapps offense is his last & best shot. He was even worse last year in hu jack/ suanders vertical game. He just didn’t have the s arts or accuracy to make it work like his predecessor.
Better keep him doing the dink & dunk baby steps thing, let him hand off the ball & try to hide him. He is a liability whose days are numbered, while he stokes the appetite for his eventual replacement.
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October 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Hopefully the Chargers tank & we can sign Norvell for OC this off-season…But knowing ChubbyChecker & tits, they will stick by Knapp-time
October 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
We have so many holes to fill if we get a top 5 draft pick we are not taking a QB we will trade down and try to fill several holes like MLB DE CB the list goes on…
October 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Carson Palmer is 1-4 this season.
He can certainly play better.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
BTW….as we all knew MR didnt show up…i took my DUI chance and drove out to the 925 only to get words from one of bloggers he was here posting past 2:30pm….so much for meeting at 3pm lol…coward
October 14th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
5-10 as the starter … Not a problem?!?
2-4 in the division ….. You cool with that?
A miserable 39 picks in last 30 games …… Elite instant upgrade?!?!
More ints for tds than any qb since 2005. ….
Stop making excuses for this loser
October 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
We have so many holes to fill if we get a top 5 draft pick we are not taking a QB we will trade down and try to fill several holes like MLB DE CB the list goes on…
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Top 5 pick???
OL
October 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Why are we still talking about Chicago’s backup qb. Do you think he could get this running game going? The problem is the poor OLine play.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
“666,
At what point does the QB get blamed for an in ept offense?”
When he is making bad reads at the LOS or not hitting the open receiver. Or like Mike Vick has 11 turnovers in 5 games.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Palmer stinks, knapps offense is his last & best shot. He was even worse last year in hu jack/ suanders vertical game. He just didn’t have the s arts or accuracy to make it work like his predecessor.
Better keep him doing the dink & dunk baby steps thing, let him hand off the ball & try to hide him. He is a liability whose days are numbered, while he stokes the appetite for his eventual replacement.
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Marcus….bruh you sound pissed off as if you still working for Kaiser
This isPalmer’s last shot but not his best shot….Im not a Carson guy but no way he was doing schit in knapp’s offense…especially with dmac being limited
October 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Raiders defeat Jacksonville or
Reggie becomes a wholesaler.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Here is where we lost the game:
Second possession we pass on the 58 yd FG attempt and decide to punt.
Then later on 2nd and goal from the 2 we pass instead of run. Then run on third down when everyone in stadium knew we were running the ball.
But the pass should have been caught by Myers.
That is 7 points right there we left on the field.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I predicted the Raiders would be waxed today.. and lose.
Well they lost and this kind lost is no better then being waxed. When u lose for 10 str8 years there are no victories.
Raiders can lose next week but they all feel sorry for themselves and realize the season is now over
Goodson is a better ZBS runner then DMAC. DMAC had a huge whole all he had to do was make one cut back.. but he runs full speed into back of of his Oline guy. Palmer is part of the problem cuz he has to know that the Vanilla offense NAP is running is predictable and that the CORNERS knew what was coming and jumped the route.
Doesnt matter anyhow, not like the Raiders were making the playoffs or superbowl anyway with this ATL win
October 14th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Hey, McFadden has averaged under 3 yards per carry every game practically.
Despite no threat of a run game really at all (I mean getting 3ypc doesn’t scare many teams) we still move the ball through the air. The problem is getting it into the end zone, which the playcalling somehow moves the ball and then stops when we get even remotely close.
Just remember this about McFadden – before Hue came along, half of the blog here were calling him McShoeStrings and saying how he’d get tackled by a blade of grass. He looked just as tentative as now. I mean he still plows over people when he gets any room to run and is still fast as hell. Just not comfortable. I blame that more on the coaches (as obviously it was clear in his earlier years too that he was tentative and unconfortable in this scheme)
October 14th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Ok Marcus….since you are a small time promoter…what if they club you were working with didnt put you in a position to win? What if they didnt help assist making your event the best it could be?
Or how about when you work at Kaiser and your supervisor putting you in bad spot after bad spot…come on Marcus be real now
October 14th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
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Highly doubtful that Pryor will ever be an NFL QB. Tebow ended up starting his first year, 2nd year he is making plays. TP, nodda. Pryor is going to join the likes of Bruce Campbell.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raiders draft a premier left tackle, I would be okay with moving Vehldeer to right tackle.
Psst Parsons got knocked back into palmer like a rag doll.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
NO Raiders need to draft a PREMIRE DT or PASS RUSHER
October 14th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Mistic needs a girlfriend and a hot tub.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Freeze Me sent that deep…come on STL beat the Midgets
October 14th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I honestly thing that the players that they brought in might look better though executing Knapp. Goodson and Lenart. Are they better players? NO! But with Knapp’s stuborn blindness I think they are better suited to play within this scheme.
Lenart is definitely not the better QB, but probably would post better stats with Knapp calling the plays. Goodson definitely isn’t the better RB, but would also post better numbers under Knapp.
Stupid to be stubborn about it. It’s obvious that the more “talented” players are starting, but it’s also obviously that it doesn’t flow as smoothly as it should based on their talent level.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Palmer was best in situations like last year in SD when he threw the ball only 20 times and Bush had 150 plus yards on the ground….we won the game.
Hue knew how to use Palmer these guys clearly do not!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Time to activate Bergstrom and Nix, let’s see what we’ve got.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Umm, SnB666
Palmer did fairly well vs the Bears, Lions, and Chargers when he threw it up 45 times for 350+ yards and 3 TDs last year.
He does well, like every other QB in the NFL, when his team can run the ball and the D can be stout at the end of the game.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
McFadden would have had 150 yds rushing if not for penalties.
Smith and Veldheer need to step it up.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I agree Raiders need to draft best pass rusher in the 2013 draft.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
72.RaiderRetribution Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raiders draft a premier left tackle, I would be okay with moving Vehldeer to right tackle.
Psst Parsons got knocked back into palmer like a rag doll.
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Didn’t Parsons come in at RG for Brisille or whatever the fk his name is? What is up Bergstrom? I guess he must suck for a 27 year old rookie.
To be honest, I wouldn’t mind seeing Parsons at C and Wiz moving back to LG and Coops going back to RG.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
NO Raiders need to draft a PREMIRE DT or PASS RUSHER
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Raiders need to move shaughnessy to LDE
Then move Houston to UT
Cut Kelly and Seymour
Draft a speed demon for RDE and draft a young beast at NT
Quite simple…I told bloggers this for years…but they wanna disagree and be wrong as usual
October 14th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
We had zero running game today.
Keep it simple.
Zero running game vs a very POOR run defense.
Zero running game to ice the game.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
This comes down to coaching. You can’t just come in here and say, we are going to use this system come hell or highwater. Good coaches adjust and fit the scheme to the players they have. You can go ZBS all you want, but it’s clear that the line as currently constructed and DMAC are just not effective running it. You can’t feature DMAC, have him struggle and expect to win. If you are insistent on running this scheme, they should be looking to trade DMAC before the trading deadline for picks, go full youth movement and start rebuilding now. That also means activating TP and see what he has.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Reggie needs to give Moore and Wheeler an extension this week.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Who is Marcus?
October 14th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I honestly thing that the players that they brought in might look better though executing Knapp. Goodson and Lenart. Are they better players? NO! But with Knapp’s stuborn blindness I think they are better suited to play within this scheme.
Lenart is definitely not the better QB, but probably would post better stats with Knapp calling the plays. Goodson definitely isn’t the better RB, but would also post better numbers under Knapp.
Stupid to be stubborn about it. It’s obvious that the more “talented” players are starting, but it’s also obviously that it doesn’t flow as smoothly as it should based on their talent level.
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No its arrogance of knapp…he still after a decade as am OC doesnt understand game flow…he never has and never will…..its sad that allen will defend him….clowns need to be fired
October 14th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
On a positive note, they are finally taking McClain off the field. Much rather see an active Burris in there than McClain loafing in pursuit.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Qb in the draft if Pryor isn’t the guy.
NO WAY IN HELL DOES PALMER COLLECT 16 mil, after being the principal in one if the single worst trades in sports history
October 14th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
#85, speaking the facts!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
“He does well, like every other QB in the NFL, when his team can run the ball and the D can be stout at the end of the game”
Good point!
October 14th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Palmer is gone next year ….. THANK GOD!!!
Played his way off the roster, TP will be playing if we lose a couple more
October 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
DA needs to call for a ref time out and ask “who the fk is #71?” Then do it again and ask ” who the fk is #47?”
DA needs to pull a bellacheet and start pushing these white hats around a little bit.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
HAHA you morons still talking about we had no running game lol
I told yall in March dmac would look like schit in this scheme…yall dont get it
October 14th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Who cares how much Palmer makes next year I am sure he will take a pay cut to stay here and help rebuild and develop TP6.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
How can you not recognize the Oline being the MAIN problem?
Next year, we will need to replace Carlisle, Smith, AND Briesel.
1st rd pick HAS to be on the Oline.
Seymour will be retired. Kelly will be a backup DT.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Stringer Bell Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
This comes down to coaching. You can’t just come in here and say, we are going to use this system come hell or highwater. Good coaches adjust and fit the scheme to the players they have. You can go ZBS all you want, but it’s clear that the line as currently constructed and DMAC are just not effective running it. You can’t feature DMAC, have him struggle and expect to win. If you are insistent on running this scheme, they should be looking to trade DMAC before the trading deadline for picks, go full youth movement and start rebuilding now. That also means activating TP and see what he has.
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Sorry Bell….good analysis…youre spot on but as Reggie, Knapp and Allen say…”be patient…it takes time….we are gonna stay the course”
October 14th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
93.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Palmer is gone next year ….. THANK GOD!!!
Played his way off the roster, TP will be playing if we lose a couple more
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TP6 will not be a QB in the NFL. If he was worth a sht he would at least be activated every week.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Not sure what you are looking at, but DMac should’ve had about 150 yds today.
CLEAR big runs called back b/c of penalties.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Pryor will be our QB of the future. He is getting the Marquette King treatment.
October 14th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
How can you not recognize the Oline being the MAIN problem?
Next year, we will need to replace Carlisle, Smith, AND Briesel.
1st rd pick HAS to be on the Oline.
Seymour will be retired. Kelly will be a backup DT.
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Seymour retired in 2009…Kelly has always been a backup
October 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Not sure what you are looking at, but DMac should’ve had about 150 yds today.
CLEAR big runs called back b/c of penalties.
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we had most penalties the last two years and dmac ran well….im not listening to your garbage mayne
October 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars MUST be spent on getting 2 starters for the Oline.
I assume Bergstrom will be a starter.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Thought that was you…my bad bruh
October 14th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I like Palmer, but I just don’t see him coming through in the clutch. When the pressure is on, at the end of games late in the 4th quarter, he just hasn’t shown that he’s capable of coming through consistently. Doesn’t make him a bad QB, but also compromises his ability to lead us to a championship.
Jason Campbell had tremendous heart and courage to come to this team, when we were in the dumps and no one would even consider us. He stepped on the field and gave it his all. He took care of the ball. Does he have the passing ability of Palmer? No. But he also didn’t seem to fold in the clutch like Palmer has been either. He was a consistent, steady force. And I, for one, appreciated that.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Yeah “B” we did have a discussion before pre-season about how the zbs would not be a good fit for DMac
We also talked about Palmer not being a good fit for the WCO
October 14th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Not sure why Des Bryant is not getting the majority of the snaps at DT. Have Seymour just be a situational sub at this point.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I’m just tired of these knucklehead decisions by our QB in crunch time. That’s awesome he can rack up stats for most of the game, but can he deliver when it matters? That’s all I’m asking.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars MUST be spent on getting 2 starters for the Oline.
I assume Bergstrom will be a starter.
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Bergs not even starting is a joke man….Parsons was brought in at RG…if Allen had any sense bergs comes in at LG and coop is in at RG after BRIBEsiel went out
Another needle dk kinda move by Allen
October 14th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
“I like Palmer, but I just don’t see him coming through in the clutch. ”
Like today when he was down by 7 and he drove the team with 2:00 left the length of the filed to score a TD on the road in a noisy stadium…or like he did to beat Pitt?
October 14th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars MUST be spent on getting 2 starters for the Oline.
I assume Bergstrom will be a starter
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Mostly agree with your comments except for the Bergs. Dude is 27 and if he can’t get on the field now, then he could very well be a wasted #3 draft pick.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I’m not going to cry about the ZBS, B.
It will be here for at least 3 years, so it is what it is. All we needed from Willie Smith today was to play AVERAGE and that ZBS would’ve looked damn good.
Parson??? LMFAO. He’d be the same bum in a power scheme.
1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars on 2 starters who can play in the ZBS.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
“I like Palmer, but I just don’t see him coming through in the clutch. ”
Like today when he was down by 7 and he drove the team with 2:00 left the length of the filed to score a TD on the road in a noisy stadium…or like he did to beat Pitt?
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Got you. I want to believe in the guy. Guess he just hasn’t been put enough situations with a chance to win the game yet to really know.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
In my opinion, draft a DE, LB, and CB in 2013. Then a franchise QB in 2014. People are all doom and gloom.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
I actually thought that Parsons did a decent job at center.
Again, move Wiz back to LG and Coops back to RG.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Seymour’s contract expiring will free up a lot of money. McFadden’s contract is expiring as well. I think with his injury issues he wont command a big contract.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
666,
Palmer is a good QB. No question.
I thinkwe are looking for a better chess player in certain situations.
Just can’t throw that pick 6 today.
Can’t keep throwing the ball to the TE short of the sticks on 3rd down. Or any other rec for that matter.
Audible into some 3rd down plays that work. Should be able to see the defense, identify a mismatch, and get us into that play.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
The other mind boggling coaching decision is what happened to using Marcel Reece. It seems he is not even in the game plan even poses a matchup problem for teams.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Palmer made up for the INT. This loss is squarely on the defense.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Where was the no huddle today. Palmer ran it well against the steelers and we haven’t seen it since.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I’m not going to cry about the ZBS, B.
It will be here for at least 3 years, so it is what it is. All we needed from Willie Smith today was to play AVERAGE and that ZBS would’ve looked damn good.
Parson??? LMFAO. He’d be the same bum in a power scheme.
1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars on 2 starters who can play in the ZBS.
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No it wont….Jhill you are cool bruh…real cool…down home brotha…but your football takes are off
if we win 2-3 games and Allen loses locker room you think he here for 3 years with zbs? Get the fk out cutty
October 14th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Our next Rich Gannon doesn’t force that pass. I’m not saying Carson Campbell’s horrible, just saying he won’t be the next Rich Gannon, or, for f’n crying out loud, the next Jim Plunket (just punch yourself).
October 14th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
119.Stringer Bell Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
The other mind boggling coaching decision is what happened to using Marcel Reece. It seems he is not even in the game plan even poses a matchup problem for teams.
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No fkn sht, my friend and I were watching the game saying the same thing. You could see #45 line up outside and nothing. Reece at FB…nothing. You nailed that call at it fkn pissed me off sooooooo bad. No Marcell?????????
October 14th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
IF WE GET A TD ON THAT DRIVE THE GAME’S OVER! CARSON THROWS A PICK 6. DON’T TELL ME IT’S NOT HIS FAULT!
October 14th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Carson Campbell has good physical attributes. He’s just retarded.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
We should trade McFadden before his contract’s up. People out there think he’s great? Let them have him. We know better.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
well time to watch the Giants hopefully lose
October 14th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
5 YEARS! 5 YEARS! WHEN DOES MCFADDEN BECOME THE GUY WE DRAFTED HIM TO BE? HE SHOULD AVERAGE ONE BREAKAWAY PER GAME. HE’S AVERAGING ABOUT 1 A YEAR!!!!
October 14th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
125.Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
IF WE GET A TD ON THAT DRIVE THE GAME’S OVER! CARSON THROWS A PICK 6. DON’T TELL ME IT’S NOT HIS FAULT!
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Myers doesn’t drop the ball in the endzone that hit him right in the chest is an easy 6 points. It’s not all CP.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
“I like Palmer, but I just don’t see him coming through in the clutch. ”
Like today when he was down by 7 and he drove the team with 2:00 left the length of the filed to score a TD on the road in a noisy stadium…or like he did to beat Pitt?
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Got you. I want to believe in the guy. Guess he just hasn’t been put enough situations with a chance to win the game yet to really know.
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I remember at least a couple of games last year where Palmer charged us down the field and scored late in the game to take the lead only to have the defense collapse last second to lose it.
He doesn’t fold in the clutch…I haven’t seen worse 4th quarter play out of him than other quarters.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
We should trade McFadden before his contract’s up. People out there think he’s great? Let them have him. We know better.
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McFadden is great – didn’t you see him the last two years. Put him in the right system and he’s a top 5 player in this league.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
5 years and it’s still excuse city for McFadden.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I’m not going to cry about the ZBS, B.
It will be here for at least 3 years, so it is what it is. All we needed from Willie Smith today was to play AVERAGE and that ZBS would’ve looked damn good.
Parson??? LMFAO. He’d be the same bum in a power scheme.
1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars on 2 starters who can play in the ZBS.
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No it wont….Jhill you are cool bruh…real cool…down home brotha…but your football takes are off
if we win 2-3 games and Allen loses locker room you think he here for 3 years with zbs? Get the fk out cutty
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I think that the Gut and DA both are very conservative and don’t want to “stay the route” even if it’s not working, and will continue even through at least another year.
The truth is that the ZBS can work – it’s just gotta have the right personnel. So it’s down to “execution” in their mind as “look at Houston”.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Massacre taking place at ATT park. And not just Joe Buck’s voice. Cardinals killing the Giants, too.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Sullivan, last year when Mc Fadden was healthy, did you see any other RB who was more dangerous?
Noone combined the speed, ability to make people miss and just plowed over players like McFadden did the last 2 year when healthy. He averaged over 5 yards per carry for gods sake!
October 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Cards are hot. Think they might win it all.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I got a little laugh though – before with the replacement refs we had the 2nd least penalties in the league.
Now that the regular regs are back we get flagged 12 times. Gotta love thinking the conspiracy theory is still alive and ticking.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
5 years in and any team McFadden’s on should know they’re winning 10 games. Not the case. Piss off with your excuses.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
MCFADDEN IS MARGINALLY BETTER THAN AVERAGE! THIS IS BASED ON RESULTS!!!
October 14th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I still want to know who is #71 holding, and #49 technical foul on the punt return. DA’s got to call the white hats over for that sht.
Who the fk is #71 and who the fk is #49? Next these stupid fk’s are gonna call a block in the back by #111?
Raiders don’t even………never mind.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
No DMAC wouldnt have had 150 yards if it were penalties.. the reason he had those long runs WERE BECAUSE of Penalties.
REGGIES guys have been looking good as late WHEELER, BURRIS, GOODSON, HANSEN anyhow
like i said this game sucks but its not like we were going deep in the playoffs or superbowl bound this year.
Just keep building on the TEAM. Carters presence helped to day forsure.. The DEFENSE of line was a tad bit better.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Here is a good question for the guru’s. What happened to McClain?
October 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
McClain did good when was in.. he was in that goaline stop . They ran a NICKEL defense alot of the game.. taking him out do to personel
October 14th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
http://deadspin.com/5951573/reports-pittsburgh-steelers-nt-alameda-taamu-arrested-on-charges-of-dui-aggravated-assault-with-a-vehicle-and-resisting-arrest
Meanwhile, a TON of semi-pros (including me) wanted Reggie to draft Alameda Ta’amu or Josh Chapman with our first pick last April.
Well, Chapman is out for the year because his knee is stil hurt, and Ta’amu just got arrested for both driving under the influence and fighting the cops who arrested him.
Looks like Reggie made the right call after all. Here’s a wild thought: Maybe he knows more about football than we do.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Here is a good question for the guru’s. What happened to McClain?
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They finally realized he was a burden on passing downs!
October 14th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
144.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
McClain did good when was in.. he was in that goaline stop . They ran a NICKEL defense alot of the game.. taking him out do to personel
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I noticed that the Raiders ran alot of nickel D today, I guess thats what it was. 5 DB’s but Wheeler and Burris? Did Mcjog loose his spot?
October 14th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
BTW what the heck is NAP THINKING?? AUSBERRY looks like a MAN out there. Where is REECE?
GET REECE and AUSBERRY THE BALL!!!! Damnnn Nap.. wtf u dork
October 14th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Raiders didn’t need McBosworth to stop Atlanta’s running game so they played with an extra DB most of the time.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
GET REECE and AUSBERRY THE BALL!!!! Damnnn Nap.. wtf u dork
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Reece has been M.I.A.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
55 is not on the 3rd down defense.
And Adams is starting at CB for Lee.
Good changes. Faster on 3rd downs.