Thoughts from afar on Raiders loss to Falcons
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, October 14th, 2012 at 6:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Stayed behind for Sunday’s game against the Atlanta Falcons. For quotes and a first-hand account, read beat writer Jerry McDonald’s game story and notebook. Here’s my take on what I watched before covering the 49ers-Giants game at Candlestick Park.
The Raiders were more than prepared for this game coming off their bye week. Even so, they lost their first game after a bye for the 10th straight season.
Yet, few can fault the Raiders for coming out flat Sunday. They had the ball late in the game, with the score tied, and well within Sebastian Janikowsk’s field-goal range.
Then came Carson Palmer’s ill-advised pass for Denarius Moore that was intercepted by cornerback Asante Samuel and returned seemingly for a backbreaking touchdown.
The Raiders showed moxie by responding with a long drive to tie the game. Their only sin was leaving too much time on the clock, 40 seconds, for the Falcons to mount a game-deciding drive.
Moral victories don’t mean much in the NFL. Yet, the Raiders can take from this game the knowledge that are talented enough to hang with the best teams in the league.
– Beating teams such as the Falcons entails cutting down on the mistakes. On Sunday, the Raiders had plenty, certainly far too many.
They committed 12 penalties for 110 yards, whereas they were called for 19 for 143 yards in their first four games combined. The Palmer interception and fumble, as well as a Darren McFadden fumble, certainly didn’t help, either.
– Tight end Brandon Myers went the first four games without a dropped pass. In fact, he caught 16 of the 17 passes thrown his way in those games.
On Sunday, Myers was unable to hang on to a pass from Palmer in the end zone late in the second quarter. A Raiders official asked if I am sure the ball wasn’t deflected.
Based off the replays I saw, it didn’t appear as if the ball was deflected, though the defender’s arm no doubt distracted Myers.
Either way, I’m sure Myers will tell you that he should have caught the ball, which arrived at the chest region and in position for him to get his hands on the ball.
– McFadden rushed 27 times for 70 yards. He now stands at 271 yards on 84 carries through five games, an average of 3.2
In McFadden’s defense, he played hurt most of the game and had two sizable runs negated by penalty. Still, it’s puzzling how Mike Goodson amassed 59 yards on four carries and seemed to get past the line of scrimmage with relative ease.
Coincidence? Who knows.
– Saw a Tweet before the game that said Janikowski converted a 64-yard field goal in pre-game warm-ups. Given that, it’s a tad surprising that coach Dennis Allen bypassed a chance at a 58-yard attempt in the first quarter.
Allen no doubt didn’t want to give the Falcons the ball at their own 48 if Janikowski missed the attempt. As it turned out, Shane Lechler’s punt went into the end zone, resulting in a 28-yard difference in field position.
You make the call on that one. It says here, Janikowski is on the team because he has the ability to make such kicks. It’s for other teams to punt in that situation.
– Sure, the Raiders are 1-4, a spot where few teams emerge and make it to the playoffs. However, the Raiders are about to embark upon a three-game stretch in which they have a realistic shot at evening their record.
They host the Jacksonville Jaguars (1-4), play the Kansas City Chiefs (1-5) on the road, then host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2-3) in the next 15 days.
If the Raiders reach 4-4, the playoffs remain a distinct possibility. Losing any of the next three games puts a damper on the Raiders playoff aspirations.
– The Raiders went their first four games without notching an interception. To a man, the Raiders said they were on the verge of breaking through.
Sure enough, the Raiders intercepted Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan three times Sunday. Michael Huff, Joselio Hanson and Tyvon Branch each picked Ryan once.
– The Raiders made the Falcons one-dimensional by shutting down their running game from the outset.
Michael Turner and the two other running backs amassed only 30 yards on 14 carries. Time and again, the Raiders stuffed the Falcons on short-yardage plays, including a couple of times near the goal line.
[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]
October 14th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
sadly 1st
October 14th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
4-4 is doable. Reggie will slowly but surely turn us into a winner.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Oh Cork,
The Raiders were called for the kind of penalties today that are committed on every play in this league. The old refs are back and the conspiracy is alive.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
We need a franchise QB.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
We need a franchise QB.
=========================================
We have a slightly-past-his-prime one now.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
We have a dumbass now.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
We could realistically be 4-4. The Chiefs game scares me the most out of those 3.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Carson Campbell is not the next Rich Gannon. Carson Campbell is Carson Campbell. We saw that today.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Anyone notice a similarity between Carson Campbell’s pick today and his twin Jason Campbell’s pick against NE last year?
October 14th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
The QB of the present and future are on the roster now.
We have much larger holes to fill and several of them so that is one position that will not be addressed for a while…you might as well suck it up and quit complaining so much its annoying.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Niner fan stabbed another Niner fan at the stick today.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Unless there are injuries, I don’t think Pryor is ever going to start for the Raiders.
October 14th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Leinert? meh. Carson Campbell written all over him.
Pryor? I don’t trust the GM that drafted him. New day, new direction. New QB. We need to trade up in the draft next April and get one.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
But I can understand why some of you would like to see Pryor blow up so that you can say Al Davis’s legacy lives on. Not going to happen.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
There are no dominant teams in the NFL this year. Atlanta is the weakest 6-0 team ever.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
of course priest has “seen this kid play and he’s for real”…you know, against practice sqauads
October 14th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Was at the game… Jano made what I thought was 67 yards in warm up and going that way too. Secondary was changing their coverage just before the snap, particularly in first half. They were challenging the receivers more than any game this year. D-line rotation worked well – good pressure. Goodson looked, well – good. Still would like to see Jones in at RB, particularly to help spot McFadden more. Need to roll the QB out more – both times they did it, the play went for good yardage. Need to pitch it to McFadden to the outside more. All-in-all, it wasn’t as exciting as the Texans game last year, but I see some building blocks and some things to foster this year to get this thing turned around and built right and lasting.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Paine I’m inclined to agree. I was not impressed with the Falcons today.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Raiders haven’t lost to a bad team yet. Every loss came to a team that has a chance to make the playoffs. I expect Raiders to be 4-4.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
We’ll be 8-8 this year, in spite of Carson Campbell and Darren McGlass.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
We can get to 4-4 if we keep on the same course we’re on and get some players back from injury. Give Goodson some more touches as well.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Our defense is one of the best in the league. Yes they did hold the Falcons offense to 16 points today, in Atlanta.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Niner fan stabbed another Niner fan at the stick today.
=============
Those qay fellers are an unruly bunch.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I predicted the Raiders would be waxed today.. and lose.
Well they lost and this kind lost is no better then being waxed. When u lose for 10 str8 years there are no victories.
Raiders can lose next week but they all feel sorry for themselves and realize the season is now over
Goodson is a better ZBS runner then DMAC. DMAC had a huge whole all he had to do was make one cut back.. but he runs full speed into back of of his Oline guy. Palmer is part of the problem cuz he has to know that the Vanilla offense NAP is running is predictable and that the CORNERS knew what was coming and jumped the route.
Doesnt matter anyhow, not like the Raiders were making the playoffs or superbowl anyway with this ATL win
October 14th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Who brings a knife to a football game? Imagine you’re going to a game with some friends, and one of them is like, “hold on, forgot one thing”, he runs into his house, and runs out with a switch blade and puts it in his pocket. “I’m ready, let’s go”.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I was shocked when I woke up at noon today and saw the Raiders were winning. My plan was to turn the t.v. on, shake my head at the massacre score Atlanta was beating us by, and go on with my day’s plans. Instead I watched a nail biter. What a performance by the Raiders. It was a moral victory. We know we have a good defense.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Before DMAC gets hurt (hope not) trade him away for a late 1st and 4th rd pick. He’s not productive in this system and we aren’t going to fit the offense to his strengths, obviously. MAC is not going to stay if we keep losing. As much as I hate to say it, this should be done.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Goodson is a better ZBS runner then DMAC. DMAC had a huge whole all he had to do was make one cut back.. but he runs full speed into back of of his Oline guy.
=========================================
Careful. You’ll get insulted by the people who insist that DMac is an ELITE back, and his struggles are 100% the fault of the o-line. The same o-line that Goodson broke through for big gains today, BTW.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Raiders need to draft a PREMIRE DT or PASS RUSHER
DMAC wouldnt have had 150 yards if it were penalties.. the reason he had those long runs WERE BECAUSE of Penalties.
REGGIES guys have been looking good as late WHEELER, BURRIS, GOODSON, HANSEN anyhow
like i said this game sucks but its not like we were going deep in the playoffs or superbowl bound this year.
Just keep building on the TEAM. Carters presence helped to day forsure.. The DEFENSE of line was a tad bit better.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Sullivan, why are you waking up at noon?
October 14th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Vanilla offense=472 yds of total offense.
Fix the fck’n running game and get some players back from injury. Curry, Spencer and Bartell and Barnes on offense.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
5 years he’s been in the league. Had one breakaway this year.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Trade DMac to the Packers.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I stay up late, wake up late, almost every day. I work late usually.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
BTW what the heck is NAP THINKING?? AUSBERRY looks like a MAN out there. Where is REECE?
GET REECE and AUSBERRY THE BALL!!!! Damnnn Nap.. wtf u dork
October 14th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
by Vanilla offense I meant its predictable.. Redzone still lacks of scoring TD’s. Just dont look at the stats.. watch the games.. To many drives that went nowhere
October 14th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Knapp’s offense, like most NFL offenses, requires a QB with good judgement. Until we have that it’s going to be an uphill battle. Our defense will bail us out enough to keep us respectable. But we need a franchise QB.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
“I stay up late, wake up late, almost every day. I work late usually.”
You know the big boy DJ lifestyle
October 14th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Sullivan, what do you do for a job?
October 14th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I understand what you mean RaidersAllday but you can’t say that this offense isnt productive.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Meanwhile, I notice Oakfoshow has been conspicuously absent.
Betcha he’s crying his eyes out over the close loss. He thought and was hoping we’d lose by 30.
If we’d won, he probably would have killed himself by now…
October 14th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
When everyone here says what they do for a living, I’ll say what I do.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I think the Raiders could beat the Texans again this year. I’m not impressed with them either.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I bartend in Miami Beach and heading back to school.
I guess I’ll go first. Lol
October 14th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Sullivan, I’m a librarian.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Yeah, all of those guys are absent. Raiderman99, etc. They don’t have much to go on today. We nearly beat the best team in football, and did so with deceptive defense and a ball control offense.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Meanwhile, I notice Oakfoshow has been conspicuously absent.
Betcha he’s crying his eyes out over the close loss. He thought and was hoping we’d lose by 30.
If we’d won, he probably would have killed himself by now…
—-
Oakofshow probably got shot this week.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I really f*cked up not starting Rodgers tonight in FF. I figured the Texans would give him a hard time.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I’m on the CIA payroll. That’s as much as I can say. I don’t know why you guys ask these questions. Is the end game to mock what I do for a living, or perhaps to figure out who I really am so that you can harass me (or perhaps worse) in person? Do you really think about me that much?
October 14th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I’d love to kick OakFoSho to sleep.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
“When everyone here says what they do for a living, I’ll say what I do.”
I clean the toilets at the Taco Bell
RaiderDuck is a professor at a University he has a doctoate in Anthropology
Albert Bigelow Paine is an out of work actor that waits tables at the Red Robin
Now its your turn Sully
October 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Part time spy, part time porn star, and that’s straight porn, with good looking chicks. That’s what I do.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Oakofshow probably got shot this week.
======================================
We’re not that lucky. Although if that did happen, he wouldn’t hard to replace. Just program a script to occasionally post messages saying “DURRR! DRIPPY LIP!” and nobody would know the difference.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Lmao @666
October 14th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I saw the league is looking into cut blocks after the season. It will be interesting if they make them illegal.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Raidersallday….I agree! Been screaminmg for more of Reece. Hugh Jackson definitely utilized Reece properly. And yes about Ausberry. Dude looks like a monster out there. Would like to see him get more touches too. However, they are utilizing the tight end in Meyers, so not much to complain about there. But man, would love to see more of Ausberry, especially in the open field.
Fwiw…I’m still sick. Hoping to recover by Wed. Arrrhhhggg!!!
October 14th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I have not the slightest interest in what any of you do for a living. I’m relatively proud of that.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I think AJ Hawk just threw up the “shocker” with his hands after he sacked Shaub.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I think AJ Hawk just threw up the “shocker” with his hands after he sacked Shaub.
——
Ha, I saw that too.
Houston isn’t impressing me that much. They had a hard time with the Jets last week as well. That team is a paper tiger.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I’m on the CIA payroll. That’s as much as I can say. I don’t know why you guys ask these questions. Is the end game to mock what I do for a living, or perhaps to figure out who I really am so that you can harass me (or perhaps worse) in person? Do you really think about me that much?
—–
I figured you weren’t as dumb as KoolKell.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
MaddenRaider saying “we” again after his Whiners got smashed today. Funny
October 14th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Funny (well not really) we could have had Asante Samuel as a free agent in the offseason. I was clamoring for him.
Reggie didn’t pull the trigger. Instead we got Shawntae Spencer.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I actually do bartend in Miami Beach and if any of you ever visit, lmk and first rounds on me. I always hook up ppl if any conversation about football leads to saying,”I’m a Raiders fan too!”
October 14th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
But we want to emulate the Texans remember?
October 14th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Funny (well not really) we could have had Asante Samuel as a free agent in the offseason. I was clamoring for him.
Reggie didn’t pull the trigger. Instead we got Shawntae Spencer.
====================
Don’t forget Ron Bartell & Pat Lee
October 14th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Mark needs to go league offices and ask what they want from him to call off the dogs…as in referees.
Just ask them what they want. Let them know Al is gone too.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Reggie didn’t have the money to sign Samuel.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Funny (well not really) we could have had Asante Samuel as a free agent in the offseason. I was clamoring for him.
Reggie didn’t pull the trigger. Instead we got Shawntae Spencer.
====================
Don’t forget Ron Bartell & Pat Lee
—
Could have had Samuel making those kind of plays for us.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Mark Davis needs to hook up Goodell up with some good blow.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Goodell to refs MEMO:
Take it easy on the Raiders in your first game back from the lockout, after that make it rain flags like Al’s alive. Yee, thanks guys.
Sincerely,
Roger Goodell
October 14th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Taiwan is MIA, need to give that guy a second chance with some screens
October 14th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Mark needs to go league offices and ask what they want from him to call off the dogs…as in referees.
Just ask them what they want. Let them know Al is gone too.
————————————————
This game was a joke. And I’m usually one decrying people who get into all those conspiracy theories. I’ve seen many games where people complain about good calls, just to try to justify some kind of conspiracy. But this… This was something else. I mean, regardless of whether some of the calls were valid, that’s not the point. You could call a foul on almost every play in the NFL. When you’re calling fouls against one team the whole game and turning your head on the same fouls for the other team, something’s really fishy. When you’re calling fouls that rarely, if ever, get called, against #s that don’t even exist on our team, something is really, really fishy.
Those refs were clearly calling it one-sided. Pathetic refereeing.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
72,
If there is any kind of conspiracy one wonders why?
IF there was something, why the Raiders? Why would they want the Raiders to lose? So they are forced to go to LA becuz of waning fan interest in Oakland for a losing team?
A vendetta against Mark cuz he’s still a remnant of Al Davis?
Not saying there IS a conspiracy but sometimes it sure looks like it.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Most of the penalties were called against Raider linemen. It just shows that they were getting beat. I agree, though, some of those calls were questionable.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I am glad they looked more like the Raiders today. Lots of penalties and turning it over when it mattered.
They were in the game and played with passion on the defensive side.
This loss sucked but I’d rather have this than the blowouts of Denver and Miami.
The refs had it out for the Raiders calling penalties on Raiders #’s that do not exist on more than one occasion.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Sam Shields, undrafted corner. Player signed while Reggie was there!
October 14th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I hear you man. Like I said, I’m the last person that wants to believe in that. I hear stuff about how New England wins SB right after 9/11, New Orleans finally gets a SB after Katrina, etc etc etc, and I try to just ignore that stuff.
But man, when I watch this team, there’s times when it really makes me wonder. Clearly HORRIFIC calls by professional referees that shouldn’t be making so many blatantly poor calls consistently throughout an entire game on numerous different occasions. The Tuck Rule, a rule that was completely obscure before it popped up out of nowhere against us. How would the ref know about that rule if it was never getting called? Why would that be on his mind? Maybe he just really studied the rule book and remembered it. It still didn’t fit the rule, IMO. Looked like a fumble.
Maybe because of the clash Al had with the league several decades ago, maybe the commish at the time just decided to draw the line. I really don’t know. I don’t want to believe stuff like that, because part of me says it’s ridiculously silly.
But after watching games like today, I really, really wonder.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
It just hurts. Same #@$t year in year our. Scab refs didn’t call all the questionable ones. Atleast it seemed they didn’t.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
And honestly, it was the phantom # thing TWICE that really got me. One time could be a coincidence. Twice? On a call that almost never gets called? I dunno. Strange.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
What a sick day. Raiders missed a golden opportunity to go to 2-3 and be right back in it.
I’m seeing a very beatable Texan team tonight…the AFC West was there for the taking, but now…we’d have to go on an incredible streak just to get in the playoffs.
Huge swing.
It sucks…bad. No other way to put it.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
My favorite part of the game was when a player that doesn’t exist got called for a personal foul that nobody committed.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
When there are blatant bullshet calls, do the coaches put tapes together and send it to the league or does that make the situation worse?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
On the defensive holding play against the Falcons, it seemed like it was a late call, made after the refs knew McFadden caught the ball anyway, so it wouldn’t matter. Wasn’t there, so maybe they just noticed it late. Calling holding calls on us primarily on plays where we had big gains. Not calling holding calls when I saw our d-linemen get mugged and they got a big play out of it. Stuff just didn’t seem right. Maybe it was all just a big coincidence.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Cut blocks will be ILLEGAL by week 1 next season…
Gonna be interesting to see what that does to the ZBS.
Am I the only 1 who thought the helmet to helmet hit on the back of Denarius’s head should have drawn a PF call? Seems to me he was more than ‘defenseless’…
October 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
It’s pretty simple now. If the Raiders are any good. They will win there next 3 games.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RediaR Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
My favorite part of the game was when a player that doesn’t exist got called for a personal foul that nobody committed.
———————————————
Lol. I mean, how do you justify that stuff? At a pretty big point in the game, where it would be greatly beneficial to the opposing team. Weird.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
When there are blatant bullshet calls, do the coaches put tapes together and send it to the league or does that make the situation worse?
———————————————
They probably have an entire dedicated library for our collection.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
83.I hear you. I just think about all the big plays over the yrs. called back. I can think of a lot on returns over the pass years.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
This game made me remember though, that while there are plenty of holes (CB, half the o-line, consistent pass rusher, third LB) there is still a lot of talent on this team, whether people want to admit it or not. Unfortunately many of those players lack consistent discipline and/or drive.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Does anybody find a guy that hammers watermelons and laughs uncontrollably while doing it funny?
Gallagher does that.
Is that funny?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
When there are blatant bullshet calls, do the coaches put tapes together and send it to the league or does that make the situation worse?
———————————————
They probably have an entire dedicated library for our collection.
———————
I think they do. I remember Hue talking about that last year.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Knapp runs the most unimaginative offense I have ever seen.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The refs didn’t drop a TD pass, Myers did.
The refs didn’t throw a pick 6 either.
Willie Smith was certainly holding, and so was Veldheer.
Players lost this game, not the refs.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Waste of watermelon.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Atlanta defensive end John Abraham was more than Raiders tackles Willie Smith and Justin Veldheer could handle, getting all three Falcons sacks and forcing a Palmer fumble on a blindside hit that set up a field goal.
……………………………………….
We really need to draft another offensive tackle.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
5.RaiderDuck Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
We need a franchise QB.
=========================================
We have a slightly-past-his-prime one now.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We will have our pick at one if we keep losing … either Matt Barkley or now slightly declining Geno Smith or developmental Tyler Wilson – i will say this, they played just well enough to shut these McKenzie-Dennis Allen haters up…for about 1 half a day…
October 14th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
DA needs not get on the Refs about the shots his WR’s are taking that are going unflagged…
DHB against Pitt, DMo helmet 2 helmet in the back of the head…Gruden would have been all over the Zebra’s to protect his playes…DA just looked and shrugged, He has got to start working the refs or it’ll neve stop…It’s called gamesmanship and is an important part of the HC job…
October 14th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Did Andre Carter play?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Wow, these rookies on the Packer D playing well.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I called 10-6 before the season. I anticipated a 2-2 at the turn with 1 win out of ATL, Pitt, and Den. We got the 1 win out of Pitt but should have never lost to Mia.
At the moment, we are 1 game behind my schedule and I do anticipate them winning the next 3.
DMac is not a ZBS RB at the moment. Love that guy but but we need to make plans if we are stuck with the ZBS the next few yrs. Also rather than running on 3rd and long, Knapp should go to the screen instead. I hated those 3rd and long run plays today.
Lastly, I dont believe in waiting til the last minute to ice the kicker. You give him a free practice kick. Rather call timeout when they break their huddle. Never give a professional athlete a practice attemp imho. 2012 Raiders will be fine. Peace.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
So how many show up for the game next Sunday against Jax?
30,000? Mark gets ticked off the fans gave up on his team and decides to go full on for LA?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
AIG,
So you’re saying 9-2 the rest of the way?
You’re not are you?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
J Hill Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The refs didn’t drop a TD pass, Myers did.
The refs didn’t throw a pick 6 either.
Willie Smith was certainly holding, and so was Veldheer.
Players lost this game, not the refs.
——————————————
I agree, there were plays to be made. All day. But in the NFL, the competition is usually so tight, that a missed call here and there might not matter, but when it’s one-sided like it was today, it can affect the outcome.
The players already have to overcome enough as it is.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Forgot to add that I never thought I’d miss Barnes at RT so much.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
That’s interesting Dj,
If we do continue to lose games, which I hope we won’t; do the fans give up on going to games, which in turn makes the decision easier for Mark to move the Raiders to L.A?
Interesting.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
LA does NOT want the Raiders…
They want a winner with a deep pocket fanbase that doesn’t look like the stands at the Coliseum…Seems the Bolts or even he Rams would fit the image better.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Why do some fans want to throw cp under the bus? That pick was really bad yes. He still had like a 100 rating, and even mannd up a said the loss was all him, even though it was not just his fault. I was under the impression he played ok for the most part.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
100.aig-raiders Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I called 10-6 before the season. I anticipated a 2-2 at the turn with 1 win out of ATL, Pitt, and Den. We got the 1 win out of Pitt but should have never lost to Mia.
At the moment, we are 1 game behind my schedule and I do anticipate them winning the next 3.
DMac is not a ZBS RB at the moment. Love that guy but but we need to make plans if we are stuck with the ZBS the next few yrs. Also rather than running on 3rd and long, Knapp should go to the screen instead. I hated those 3rd and long run plays today.
Lastly, I dont believe in waiting til the last minute to ice the kicker. You give him a free practice kick. Rather call timeout when they break their huddle. Never give a professional athlete a practice attemp imho. 2012 Raiders will be fine. Peace.
===================================
so thats
above all else pass rusher – Jarvis Jones? B.Mingo from LSU?
1. offensive tackle
2. ZBS running back – Johnathan Franklin, UCLA?
3. lb to replace Rolando McClain – Manti Teo?
4. according to Sullivan 44 – franchise QB if Pryor doesnt work
5. shut down corner – D.Rodgers-Cromartie? and draft another CB
6. if possible new OC or Saunders taking over
October 14th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
We need a JJ Watt on our line.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
DJ,
Because we lost 1 that we shouldnt have I will now lower that to 8-3 with a 9-7 record at the end of the year.
3 more losses in this batch – Bal, New, Den, SD.
My reasoning is that a team with a new coaching crew will struggle to get to 500 as they learn the new system and essentially gel in the second half. But there is no doubt the next 3 is extremely critical.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
DeMac doesn’t look good. Nfl network sterling sharpe and Brian baldinger showed his lack of hitting holes as well as open field runs he should have taken to house. He also has dropped several key passes including one in Miami for a td to put raiders up 14-3 on third down. Can’t believe everybody is blaming knapp. Goodson looks good breaking off big runs Miami and today!
I say trade dmac , pick up lineman and another back , maybe picks. He is not co nsitent, never makes cuts and is not that durable.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Overated
October 14th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Take away Barnes’ false starts, and he isn’t too bad.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
That’s interesting Dj,
If we do continue to lose games, which I hope we won’t; do the fans give up on going to games, which in turn makes the decision easier for Mark to move the Raiders to L.A?
Interesting.
—
People wanna forget that Mark said he NEEDS a new stadium “yesterday”. He’s also said he prefers Oakland…but if the fans start to bail on the team out of disgust then how does Oakland justify building a new stadium for a team that doesn’t appear to have the support of the fans?
Jax will not sell out…no way.
How bad it will be I guess we’ll find out.
If they lose against Jax it will only be worse the rest of the year.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
AIG,
I think that’d be great. At this point 9-7 would be fantastic.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
another loss thanks three stooges…
October 14th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
I really thought knapp was gonna win this game for Houston.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
The next three games are must win. Dmac will not be traded before the deadline. If anything bench him for Goodson and let him become a free agent.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
The last scoring drive by the Raiders (only score in the 2nd half) came when Palmer was calling the shots. Until Palmer takes over the offense, we won’t win games. knapp shoulda kept the ball on the ground and kicked the fg, trusted the D and we woulda won.
This loss is on the OC.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
knapp shoulda won this game for Houston. He really was trying.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
niners lose. only bright spot today.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
There is no need to draft a QB. Palmer has another good year left and Pryor will have another year to develop. Trade Dmac on Madden and take your team to the Super Bowl.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I guess the OC let the Falcons drive to a 55 yard FG.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
krappy and zone defense came thru just like we said they would…
October 14th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Even with the 55 yard FG, that’s a hard FG to make. Unless you’re Janikowski.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Allen also helped the falcons win with that stupid ‘ice’ timeout.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I thought the same thing when Allen punted instead of attempting a 58 yard FG. He’s young and needs to trust Janikowski.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
allens an idiot…
October 14th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Bigsully, feeling good aren’t you?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
It’s easy to second yourself after the fact. The team played well and the game came down to a 55 yard FG. I’m not happy with the outcome, but in the end no sweat off my sack.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Bigsully, feeling good aren’t you?
*********************************************************
What a wanker!
October 14th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Just got back. How’s the mood in Raiderland? Heartbreaker, but I liked 90% of what we did.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Do people in here not realize that we are kind of predictable and that most of the time when when McFadden runs they know about it. I’m sure Goodson doesn’t get the respect that McFadden gets from the defense. And McFadden did break a couple runs. They both got called back with holding penalties. People in here lack perspective.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
I said bigsully, Bigs now. What made you think I was talking to you? Oops. G’nite sully.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
You’re still a wanker!
October 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Evening Nation, long time reader second time poster. DVR’d the game havnt watched yet but caught enuff radio and read enuff to know it was a VERY winnable game. Agreed RaiderDuck,Reg is gonna need AT LEAST one more full draft to put his mark on this team, but how in hell does our def.minded coach sit back an let his DC GO PREVENT when PRESSURE was getting to Ryan?!?!?!
October 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Raiders had 19 penalties total for the first 4 games and 12 in this game. this proves a bias against OAK. this is the best the defense can possible play given that they have no pass rush no corners and sub par linebacker play. Offense REALLY blew it. Raiders, based on today’s performance SHOULD get to 4-4. but 1-7 wouldn’t surprise me at all.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
It was worth the watch.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
McFadden just doesn’t get the ZBS a really waste of talent, probably a team like the Packers or Pats would be willing to trade their first for him.
McClain can be an upgrade in some 3-4 teams maybe a team like te Texans or Ravens could give us a four or fifth for him.
We for sure wouldn’t miss them with these coaches we have.
Huff is becoming a keeper at cb.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
The penalties were legit. This game came down to a zone defense and lack of good judgement by the QB. It’s hard to blame the defense, because the unit was huge on the defensive stop after the Dmac fumble.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
McFadden dropped passes again. If you don’t make cuts I don’t care how powerfull you are, you’re one dimensional
October 14th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
This is McFadden’s contract year. Here is a scenario, McFadden plays like crap, and comes back on the cheap.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
The penalties were legit. This game came down to a zone defense and lack of good judgement by the QB. It’s hard to blame the defense, because the unit was huge on the defensive stop after the Dmac fumble.
>> there are penalties on EVERY play. 19 penalties through 4 games and then 12 in this one.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I still don’t think Allen will start Goodson.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Trade McFadden? Are you nuts? Did you see that tackle he made?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Watch them over again, this game didn’t come down to penalties.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Bigs, I thought we dismissed you.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I have not the slightest interest in what any of you do for a living. I’m relatively proud of that.
>> so what do you do? collect disability for having a yeast infection?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I wish we would mix in some plays with Taiwan Jones
October 14th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
That was a good effort and saved a TD, but the man needs to cover the rock.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Watch them over again, this game didn’t come down to penalties.
>> you don’t think losing over 100 yards in penalties hurts raider drives?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
You got nothing on me wanker.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Like a screen to TJ
October 14th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I believe McFadden is one of the few players we could trade and get something for…..
October 14th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
same stupidity in here…trade dmc, completely insane or naive…nah just freaken stupid
October 14th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Raiders will need a QB. in the draft. more games they win less the chances are of getting a top QB. but the draft is unpredictable anyways. need to draft a QB next year and a pass rusher
October 14th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
DMC is actually signed through the 2013 season
October 14th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Knapp’s (Big Head) overuse of DMAC is what lost this game today. Even with CP’s late INT it was DMAC 2 yd gain, DMAC stopped at scrimmage, DMAC 3 yd reception, Lechler punt.
Again and again and again. Finally in the 4th quarter when the Raiders went no huddle Goodsen got the ball and promptly ripped off a 52 yd run. What about playing TJ now too? Reece running, and Myers and Hagan catching multiple balls – all did very well.
I said it a hundred times and I’ll say it again: sorry worships but your DMAC is not a great nor an elite back. If you don’t believe me compare his stats to Marcus Allens, in through their first 4 seasons. Allen had 44 TD’s and a Superbowl MVP. DMAC will never post those numbers throughout his entire career.
DMAC had 2 great games last season against the NYJ’s and Denver which had a horrific D.
Before and after that DMAC was average running for around 60 yds per game, approximately what he did today.
Yet Big Head is basing Raiders offense around him and continues to try to make something work, that just won’t work.
DMAC is an excellent back, but no more. Throw all our other players in the mix, get rid of Big Head and we’ll win.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
DMAC couldn’t even get a 1st round pick.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
I would much rather trade Knapp than DMC, I have a feeling DA and Reggie would agree with me
October 14th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Well, I can take solace in my ffl victory. Doubled up my opponent and beat him by 70.
I’m in a work fantasy league with a bunch of idiots. It’s like taking candy from a baby.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
New England sucks now. You can tell they are on the downside of the hill heading down. We on the other hand are on our way up. You’ll see. You’ll be sorry.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Penalties happen with this team. The replacement refs skewed that statistic. The game was no decided by penalties. The referee bias didn’t apply to this game. Palmer throwing an INT, valid. The defensive scheme by Tarver, valid.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Drops balls, no cuts and mcfragile. Nfl network boys pegged him this morning before game!
October 14th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
I’m reaching my limit Purvsman. I’m sick and tired of talking about the reasons why we lost, what’s wrong with the team, who we’re gonna draft NEXT YEAR, who we should trade for, why this guy or that guy didn’t do anything, how we can still make the playoffs, etc. etc. etc.
Demoralized pretty much describes it.
Also sick and tired of not wanting to watch highlights cuz I don’t feel like reliving yet another loss.
Sick of it all.
Disgusted that it’s week 5 and the season is for all intents and purposes over.
Sick of this team ruining my Sunday evenings.
Sick of caring about an organization that never returns the favor.
There’s more…
It’s my own dam fault.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
If we are predicatable on offense ( some of it I get ) then the Falcons D.C is as dumb as some of the posters in here for giving up a little under 500 yds of offense.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
The team would be way to thin at RB to trade Dmac before the deadline. Anything can happen come April.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
DMC is a scoring threat from any spot on the field. has had a bunch of 20 yard+ runs the last 2+ years, helps slow down edge rushers catches passes and can block. DMC is a top tier RB, great all around game and make big plays.. but Goodson has some skills too and they need to give him more carries.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
dmc gets traded and he will have a 2k season with any competent oc….
October 14th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
If this team wins the next three the season is not over.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
While the replacement refs may have blown their share of calls they let the teams play wasnt a huge fan of seeing return of regular refs….Work in a steel mill.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Knapp should go before McFadden.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
I’ll be honest, McFadden doesn’t look as tough or powerfull running the ball. Maybe he lost some power in his legs as a result of his injury and not being able to keep up conditioning. That’s what it looks like to me. He’ll be back to full strength next year. You’ll see, you’ll be sorry.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
I liked the replacement refs as well. It cut down on the Raiders penalties.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DMC haters from 3 years ago comin out of the wood work again lol, where have ya’ll ben the last couple years? I guess it makes sense because the last time ya’ll were talkin schit we were running this same fkin scheme. Its not rocket science, its more like common sense which some of ya’ll clearly don’t have
October 14th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Good teams have QB who pass 300 plus-we have. They also can use different backs and still win, like giants, pats, gb, …. Trade dmac
October 14th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
What bigsnow said. Haha.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I don’t recall one penalty that was a bad call. Here is to Dmac having a big game next week at home.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Tell sterling sharpe
October 14th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Shut up Sandusky44 Palmer is not the problem.
>> too funny
October 14th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Has anyone noticed that Knapp’s (Big Head)head is as big as a horse ??
Unbelievable.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
How many 1000 yard seasons did dmac have?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
mikeschoice Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Good teams have QB who pass 300 plus-we have. They also can use different backs and still win, like giants, pats, gb, …. Trade dmac
>> Trade him for what? might get a 2nd round pick no better. not worth it
October 14th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
I meant to say Knapp’s head is a big as a horse’s head. It’s huge.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Shut up Sandusky44 Palmer is not the problem.
>> too funny
*********************************************************
LMAO
October 14th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
173
Its something about this scheme man, he is thinkin too much or something, if you remember this is how he looked last time we ran this scheme and people blamed it on his skinny legs and what not, He looked like a beast in the power scheme PERIOD
October 14th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
183. A stud DT would be awesome a plus a late pick.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Your way over blowing what they said on NFL Network, your not the only one that watched that.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
I don’t think we should trade DMAC. Just never mistake him for a great and elite back, that’s all.
We can’t base our offense around him.
The worshippers get all stupid and carried away. DMAC is an excellent back, but what I saw today, Goodson is no slouch.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
He needs to run upright again. He still lowers his shoulders with power. I think he needs to run upright and hit the hole faster.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
He never made 1000 in any scheme
October 14th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
He ran for 1100+ in 2010. Cable was the HC.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Last season we got he should be ready in 2 weeks till season was over?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says: I’m reaching my limit Purvsman. Sick of this team ruining my Sunday evenings.===============I got lucky, DJ. My better half sold a female llama this morning while I was on my emotional roller coaster and when the game ended I had to deliver said llama about an hour and a half away. That and time spent with her new owners and driving back home and stopping at In ‘n Out took some of the sting out of it. I am still proud of how we played today. I still care and I wouldn’t if they had laid another Denver or Miami egg. Tat was a good team we beat up today and with three winnable games coming up we may be 4 and 4 and I’ll be a FANatic omce again. Thanks for saying Hi and lets all tell bigs sully to go to bed.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
I’m having a drink, in hoping that both Manning and Rivers get hurt tomorrow. Nothing life threatening but maybe a torn ligament here and there.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
only guy who can stop dmc is krappy…
October 14th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Bigsully, how long can you masturbate on a Raider loss.Enough, already.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
DMAC’s Rushing Stats:
2008: 499 yds
2009: 357 yds
2010: 1157 yds
2011: 614 yds.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
The Raiders need defensive first round. Regardless if its a DT, LB, DE, or CB. Take the best player available and fill the holes in later rounds.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
198
Those are back up RB #’s. smh
October 14th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
He did make that 1000 once. My bad. Overall bad pick for 4th overall given stats. Including fumbles
October 14th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Have you guys watched the DC pressers? Dude seems nuts. I liked his plan to day I did think we could play that good. (Save prevent-win D)
October 14th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Oh, I didn’t realize that the whiners finally faced a good team and got spanked.That would explain sullys’ whining and norco’s(amy) absence.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Marcus Allen’s Rushing Stats – First Four Seasons:
1982: 697 yds
1983: 1014 yds (Superbowl MVP)
1984: 1168 yds
1984: 1759 yds
October 14th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Dmac is flashy and looks really cool when he breaks one! Goodson is fast and when he breaks a good one it just doesn’t look as sweet…..I think it’s the running style
October 14th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Raiders do need about 8 starters on defense, better get some draft picks
October 14th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Wow. Who’s better, the Giants or the Falcons? Who played who much, much, much tougher today? Oh, that hurts, doesn’t it whiner fcks?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
LOL, ok Im not goin through this again on DMC, I can see the haters are back and if ya’ll can’t see whats goin on or check the timeline from his bad years than I miswell be talkin to a damn wall, good night RAIDER NATION!
October 14th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Marcus Allen’s Rushing Stats – First Four Seasons:
1982: 697 yds
1983: 1014 yds (Superbowl MVP)
1984: 1168 yds
1984: 1759 yds
>> I’m guessing those teams had other weapons on offense and a defense too.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
He had 1 decent year in 5-6
October 14th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Wow. Who’s better, the Giants or the Falcons? Who played who much, much, much tougher today? Oh, that hurts, doesn’t it whiner fcks?
>> Giants are the best team in the NFL until they get knocked out of playoffs or don’t make it in. Giants show up in big games.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I don’t think Bigs is Sulli.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Considering the hype that has surrounded McFadden in the 5 years he’s been in the league, there should be Hall of Fame talk by now. Christ’s sake he’s had one breakaway run this year.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I think Reggie’s picks are showing up and there’s more coming…
October 14th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Goodson’s had more breakaways than McFadden this year. How long do we keep McFadden just in hopes of saving the previous GM face for yet another bad number one pick of his?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Considering the hype that has surrounded McFadden in the 5 years he’s been in the league, there should be Hall of Fame talk by now. Christ’s sake he’s had one breakaway run this year.
> Sandusky44 booyeahh!! Dmac is a home run threat, nice to have that But Goodson is showing something too.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Goodson’s had more breakaways than McFadden this year. How long do we keep McFadden just in hopes of saving the previous GM face for yet another bad number one pick of his?
>> who or what picks do the Raiders trade DMC for sandusky44?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Goodson hit the home run today. I looked at that run and don’t know if mcfragile takes it all the wat
October 14th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
I’m starting to like Romanowski. Kozimor and Oneal commiserating over having to travel, time zone changes, preparing for time zone changes, practicing earlier because of time zone changes, and Romo just told them to clam it and that the Niners never changed their routine when he was with them in those elite years. You just flew in and played. You won with better players, period. Speak Bill.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says: I don’t think Bigs is Sulli.========He just admitted it a few posts back. I busted him as the golden jew in less than 5 minutes and have owned him ever since. Try and keep up. Unless this is also mr?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
sullys whiners got handled by the giants again!
October 14th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
mauler, I’ll answer that when you answer this.
Do you agree we should trade McFadden, and if not why?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
mikeschoice Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Goodson hit the home run today. I looked at that run and don’t know if mcfragile takes it all the wat
>> yeah thing is most teams don’t even have 1 back that they rely on. Running backs are a dime a dozen now.michael bush didn’t get sh$t for a contract. just shows how expendable RBS are becoming. IF OAK did trade him they should try to get a pass rushing OLB/DE or a 2nd round pick.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
mauler, I’ll answer that when you answer this.
Do you agree we should trade McFadden, and if not why?
> only if we got a difference maker on defense OR if some sucker GM gave us a 1st round pick. thats it for me
October 14th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
realtruraider Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
LOL, ok Im not goin through this again on DMC, I can see the haters are back and if ya’ll can’t see whats goin on or check the timeline from his bad years than I miswell be talkin to a damn wall, good night RAIDER NATION!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Chill dude,
No one is saying DMAC isn’t a good RB. What, we are supposed to base our offense, our scheme, everything around him, as if he is a young God, who just runs wild over every defense in every game: Walter Peyton, Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, etc. all balled into one ???
He’s just not that good and his stats prove it. You are basing his “beast” status on the two great games he had against the NYJ’s and the Broncos.
But what has he done for us lately? I don’t hate DMAC, he’s just overrated.
Too bad Big Head (Knapp) doesn’t know this yet.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
NYG made Alex Smith look like the pre-Harbaugh Alex. Niner future opponents should take notes.
(now that sounds like something a 49er fan would say, doesn’t it? lol)
October 14th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
keep trying sandusky…
October 14th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Ray rice, mjd, get the job done durable.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Marcus Allen’s Rushing Stats========What is your point? I was there. Literally, at the LA Coliseum. He was phenomenal. Played for 16 years and damm well for most of them. Name another with that kind of longevity. Right now, McFadden is our running back and I think he is damm good. Again, what is your fckn point.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Sully are you really a 9er fan? Or do you just enjoy torrmenting everyone?
October 14th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I’m not Sandusky44.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Marcus Allen’s Rushing Stats========What is your point? I was there. Literally, at the LA Coliseum. He was phenomenal. Played for 16 years and damm well for most of them. Name another with that kind of longevity. Right now, McFadden is our running back and I think he is damm good. Again, what is your fckn point
*******************************************************
Your an old wanker!
October 14th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says: (now that sounds like something a 49er fan would say, doesn’t it? lol)====You already said you were a whiner fan, remember? do we have to dig up that post? Go to bed, Bigs. You don’t want to be up when moms comes home with your new ‘uncle’.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Alice Smith sucks and i will always laugh at the niners for passing on Aaron Rodgers for that buster
October 14th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
I kind of question commitment level on some of older picks as well…. Mcfragile, Seymour, McClain, they show flashes and then no show
October 14th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
I keep it real. I only torment those who live in fantasy.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Allen should have never dawned a Chiefs jersey.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Did you fools just start watching Raider games this week?
DMAC didn’t even get the starting nod full time until his third year because Cable was in love with Fargas.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Counterpunch without even knowing he was swinging. You’re outta here.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I keep it real to, Alex Smith will not lead a team to the Super Bowl. Randy Moss will never get a ring.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Fair enough
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Goodnight, Sandusky44, LMAO!
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Nah, Purv. I don’t have time to make up handles. When you live in Miami and close to south beach, there is no time to stay on a blog all day and night. I’m off tomorrow so that’s the reason I’ve been on here.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Goodson has only had one break away run this season Sully and that was today.
The touchdown in Miami was a screen pass.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
the niners passing on a future HOF QB like Rodgers is actually worse than the Raiders drafting jabuster russell being that there wee no other QBs to be taken that high. could have had Megatron though. still pisses me off.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
blackandsilverside Says: Marcus Allen’s Rushing Stats========What is your point? I was there. Literally, at the LA Coliseum. He was phenomenal. Played for 16 years and damm well for most of them. Name another with that kind of longevity. Right now, McFadden is our running back and I think he is damm good. Again, what is your fckn point.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Purvisman,
Geez, calm down, man. I did watch 90% of Raiders’ home games and home playoff games in the colliseum too. I watched Marcus and Bo run together in the same once too. Once I chatted with Marcus and drank several beer with him too, at the Hamburger Hamlet in Brentwood.
My first point in comparing both parties stats is that DMAC is not an elite back, like many worshipers herein claim. He is an excellent back and it would be a mistake to trade him.
My second point is that Big Head (Knapp) seems to base our entire offense around DMAC and that is just not happened. He’s not good enough to carry this team, as has been amply proven this season.
My
October 14th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
You guys worry too much about who’s who and who’s a loyal enough fan. Just talk football. Almost everyone here is anonymous. What’s the point?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Goodnight, Sandusky44, LMAO!
>. sandusky44 BOOYEAHH!!! guess they let him out
October 14th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Marcus Allen was an elite back and he has the numbers to prove it. If AD hadn’t held him back, Allen would have been one of the top 5 runners in football.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Marcus Allen was an elite back and he has the numbers to prove it. If AD hadn’t held him back, Allen would have been one of the top 5 runners in football.
>> DMC wasn’t the full time starter until 2010. so we only have 2 years to go on with him BUT RBs are getting more and more expendable.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
The Raiders drafted Fabian Washington the pick before Rodgers was drafted. I went to the same junior college as Rodgers.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Allen’s brother, Bruce Allen? Was somthing speical aswell. No bad he never got a shot…
October 14th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
209, the line Allen had to run behind were freakin beast!! carlisle lookin old an briesel lookin as if he was the weak link on a good OL in H-town. We havnt had a dominant LT since lincoln kennedy.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
The Raiders drafted Fabian Washington the pick before Rodgers was drafted. I went to the same junior college as Rodgers.
>> niners passed on rodgers and took Alice smith. wasn’t talking about 2005 OAK draft.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Marcus Allen is the only player to win the Heisman and Super Bowl MVP.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Raiders showed up and gave max effort today. I am proud of them and thought they played a hell of a ball game. Unfortunately they lost to a better team.
Enough with the penalty conspiracy, and the shoulda, coulda, woulda’s. They played like a team and they played hard.
Tip your hats and STFU.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
I realized that, but both teams should have selected him. He was a home town favorite in NorCal.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Raiders showed up and gave max effort today. I am proud of them and thought they played a hell of a ball game. Unfortunately they lost to a better team.
Enough with the penalty conspiracy, and the shoulda, coulda, woulda’s. They played like a team and they played hard.
Tip your hats and STFU.
>. i don’t tip my hat to LOSING.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Raiders showed up and gave max effort today. I am proud of them and thought they played a hell of a ball game. Unfortunately they lost to a better team.
Enough with the penalty conspiracy, and the shoulda, coulda, woulda’s. They played like a team and they played hard.
Tip your hats and STFU.
*******************************************************
I still don’t recall a bad call. The Raiders had a good challenge upheld, but no bad calls.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
>. i don’t tip my hat to LOSING.
*********************************************************
You don’t tip your hat much.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Go PVH Viking. =)
October 14th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
I heard the dumbest observation today during the Miami game by the announcer (forgot the name)-”Tannehill looks excellent when throwing to an open receiver.”
Are you serious? Lol
October 14th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Big Lincoln=RT
October 14th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Go Wildcats, put some cats in your life!
October 14th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Sullivan44 Says: I keep it real. I only torment those who live in fantasy.======Heh, heh, heh.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
so the Raiders need 8 starters on defense, at least. they need a RT, RG maybe, TE, QB on offense. so they better stock up on picks and makes some moves or we’ll see same crap next year.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
losing is for the weak, those who do it and those who accept it…
October 14th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
*********************************************************
With that screen name, you can’t be taken seriously.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
You guys do realize that Marcus only ran for over 1000 yards 3 times in his career right?
Thats right 16 years in the league, only 3 1000 yard seasons, and none of those were with the Chiefs.
Marcus’s greatness was in his versatility. He was the ultimate 3rd down back and could catch the ball better then most recievers.
You guys don’t have a clue. He only had elite numbers from 83-87.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
losing is for the weak, those who do it and those who accept it…
*********************************************************
You shouldn’t coach little league.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
>. i don’t tip my hat to LOSING.
*********************************************************
You don’t tip your hat much.
>> hmmm i like the punter, kicker, reese,goodson,DMC palmer, denarious moore. DHB, streater. WR group is good.i mostly can’t stand the OC and the non existent pass rush and soft corners
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Marcell Reese pushing an already falling defender down equals holding how??
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
At least we had the lead at one point in most games this year so far. Better to watch than complete blowouts of past.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I would submit that with any screenname he wouldn’t be taken seriously.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Raiders showed up and gave max effort today. I am proud of them and thought they played a hell of a ball game. Unfortunately they lost to a better team.
Enough with the penalty conspiracy, and the shoulda, coulda, woulda’s. They played like a team and they played hard.
Tip your hats and STFU.
>. i don’t tip my hat to LOSING.
——————————
Thats cause you have no class.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
*********************************************************
With that screen name, you can’t be taken seriously.
>> you don’t even know what my screen name refers to genius. quick google it! and i am take as seriously as anybody on a fuking blog can be smart guy.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I would submit that with any screenname he wouldn’t be taken seriously.
*********************************************************
Don’t ever mistake me for a man that can’t form a proper sentence. Lay off the sauce.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
You guys worry too much about who’s who and who’s a loyal enough fan. Just talk football. Almost everyone here is anonymous. What’s the point?
************************
Some here form bonds of one kind or another. You spend enough time you get to know people. You get to like certain ones and dislike others.
People’s personalities come thru one way or another. You like to talk to certain ones and not others. You learn to respect their takes if you know they are basically being up front. Noone wants to talk to somebody who they think is faking who they are.
That’s why YOU are universally despised on this blog because you’re such a jerk. Your personality comes through loud and clear.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Well sheit on me and call me a sundae.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
I honestly was just about to ask about that handle. Lmfao
October 14th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Jack Dempsey
October 14th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Raiders showed up and gave max effort today. I am proud of them and thought they played a hell of a ball game. Unfortunately they lost to a better team.
Enough with the penalty conspiracy, and the shoulda, coulda, woulda’s. They played like a team and they played hard.
Tip your hats and STFU.
>. i don’t tip my hat to LOSING.
——————————
Thats cause you have no class.
>> so you value losing? good for you good luck with that mentality.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
I just don’t know what some fans expected from the new GM and coaching staff when they inherited an 8-8 team that lost 4 of its last 5 games in the previous season. Everything looks about what it should look like. If not for a freakish special teams injury in week one, we’re likely a relatively respectable 2-3 and coming off a near victory on the road against an undefeated team.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says: Nah, Purv. I don’t have time to make up handles. When you live in Miami and close to south beach, there is no time to stay on a blog all day and night. I’m off tomorrow so that’s the reason I’ve been on here.===========Didn’t really think you were. And I suppose growing up in Pasadena and knowing LA and Hollywood like the back of my hand makes me cool, somehow? South beach, so what. Glad I’m away from all that crap. Would have liked to have been in LA to to see the Shuttle Endeavor cruising down the street, though.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Come on now, it’s deceiving.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I would submit that with any screenname he wouldn’t be taken seriously.
*********************************************************
Don’t ever mistake me for a man that can’t form a proper sentence. Lay off the sauce.
>> sandusky is from my neighborhood.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
losing is for the weak, those who do it and those who accept it…
———————
Did you learn this bullsh*t in the army or something?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Sandusky44 is back.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The Army was full of integrity BS. Not a lot about winning.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
ChrisinNC,
Have you ever eaten possum? I dated a girl from there and she said they do that?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Some of you need to learn the concept of drinking in moderation. I can tell by the moodiness in here.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The Army was full of integrity BS. Not a lot about winning.
>. um i was in the Army and it’s a brotherhood and winning is everything. if you don’t win in the Army you might DIE. you must be drunk
October 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
losing is for the weak, those who do it and those who accept it…
———————
Did you learn this bullsh*t in the army or something?
>> survival of the fittest
October 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
>> so you value losing? good for you good luck with that mentality.
—————————-
Is this a serious question? Value is something way different then saying “good game, appreciate the effort, and lets get them next time.”
Surely you can understand that after watching 10 years of teams that mostly didn’t even seem to be trying.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
Once I chatted with Marcus and drank several beer with him too, at the Hamburger Hamlet in Brentwood.====Sticking with that HH story ,huh? I loved the Hamlet on lake street in Pasadena. Bloody Marys for some reason.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Raiders losing today is SAME CAKE, DIFFERENT SLICE… Same o’l .. get emm up outta here
October 14th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
>> so you value losing? good for you good luck with that mentality.
—————————-
Is this a serious question? Value is something way different then saying “good game, appreciate the effort, and lets get them next time.”
Surely you can understand that after watching 10 years of teams that mostly didn’t even seem to be trying.
>> well my view is that its a waste of time to not even TRY to win, and that losing is not the desired result EVER.our species wouldn’t have survived if we accepted losing.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Purv,
I grew up in San Gabriel and no, I don’t think South Beach is cool but it’s there and so are the ladies. I actually hate all the douche and douchettes that roam the streets of SoBe.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
>> survival of the fittest
————————–
” the fittest” as you so ignorantly refer to them, Die every day son.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
Once I chatted with Marcus and drank several beer with him too, at the Hamburger Hamlet in Brentwood.====Sticking with that HH story ,huh? I loved the Hamlet on lake street in Pasadena. Bloody Marys for some reason.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I think the HH in Brentwood closed and converted into another restaurant.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
>> survival of the fittest
————————–
” the fittest” as you so ignorantly refer to them, Die every day son.
>. believe what you want, clearly my statement is too much for you to grasp.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
LA is only a great place to natives with foolish pride, and people who’ve never been there.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Is winning what Pat Tillman got when a .50 cal cut him in half?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
>> well my view is that its a waste of time to not even TRY to win, and that losing is not the desired result EVER.our species wouldn’t have survived if we accepted losing.
——————————–
You do realize that football is a game and ironically even the so-called winners lose? Especially with all the physical problems associated with life after football.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
>. so you’re telling me that the Army’s job ISN’T to WIN a war? its all about winning and that can mean survival but either way if you lose in Iraq YOU FUKING DIE old man OK
October 14th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
mikeschoice Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Goodson hit the home run today. I looked at that run and don’t know if mcfragile takes it all the wat
———————————————————–
a homerun is a td. goodson got caught for a 42 yard run. you think dmc wouldve only got 42 yards on that run? goodson ran through a huge hole that was similar to the 64 yard td that dmc had against pittsburg where the cb had a angle on dmc but he still scored. goodson had 1 man to beat with a better angle and still got caught. yall crack me up with this bullsh!t in here. mystic is right about palmer. he throws pick 6’s every year but he gets every excuse made for him. he has a losing record since joining the team and was a loser in cincy. i didnt care much for jc and hue jax but i can admit we were a better team than we are now.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
222.Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
mauler, I’ll answer that when you answer this.
Do you agree we should trade McFadden, and if not why?
+++++++++++++++++++
If its a trade of McFadden, the trade off has to be equal – either a punishing runner between tackles or a homerun hitting back
if its the draft – it has to be a game changing pass rusher
do any of these potential backs
1. Johnathan Franklin, UCLA
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Christine Michael, Texas A&M
do any of these pass rushers – with the pick you’d get for McFadden
1. Alex Okafor, Texas
2. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
3. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
free agents?
shut down corner? – D.Rodgers-Cromartie, Eagles
Sam Shields, Packers, A.J. Jefferson, Cardinals
so its draft for franchise QB – Barkley, Smith or T.Wilson
trade McFadden for a potential game changer on defense
Star Louleilei, DT Johnathan Hankins, Ohio St.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Miami Raider, No. I know some from the backwoods that do though.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
>> well my view is that its a waste of time to not even TRY to win, and that losing is not the desired result EVER.our species wouldn’t have survived if we accepted losing.
——————————–
You do realize that football is a game and ironically even the so-called winners lose? Especially with all the physical problems associated with life after football.
>> it is a game but its also entertainment and with all of the fuking $$$ they make they need to actually TRY to win games. and these players CHOOSE to play so they get to live with the consequences.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
The Raiders should have won that game. At least we saw improvement today.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
The season is over
October 14th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
306.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
>. so you’re telling me that the Army’s job ISN’T to WIN a war? its all about winning and that can mean survival but either way if you lose in Iraq YOU FUKING DIE old man OK
+++++++++++++++++
irony being, the bankers, oilmen and politicians win.
“the military are just dumb brutes who are pawns of foreign policy”
-Henry Kissinger (actual quote)
October 14th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Winning when it comes to war is relative to what you define winning as. Is winning destroying an entire country? Or is winning inflicting mass casualties on the native population. Is winning having hundreds of thousands veterans with PTSD. War is not a game of football. Thank you for serving our country.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
>. believe what you want, clearly my statement is too much for you to grasp.
———————-
You act like you coined the phrase “survival of the fittest.” Anyone can spew over used cliche’s that really have no real tangible meaning. Does your wife tell you its the biggest she ever had player?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Power blocking? Was Saunders calling plays?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Jim Brown has a great quote about no matter how much money you have, how smart you are, it will always come down to who is the better of two men in a physical duel. I think there’s a grain of truth to it. After all, if you take two men with equally top notch IQs and both having an equal amount of obscene wealth, with equally charismatic personalities, senses of humor, etc., and put them on an island with one beautiful woman who’s only choosing one of them, who gets the woman? This being said, I don’t think this undeniable truth is a reason to throw out the idea of a peaceful civilization.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Its over johnny. ITS OVER!!
October 14th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
She was from Aberdeen. Guess they do that around there. Wonder how it would taste as a burrito?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
306.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
>. so you’re telling me that the Army’s job ISN’T to WIN a war? its all about winning and that can mean survival but either way if you lose in Iraq YOU FUKING DIE old man OK
+++++++++++++++++
irony being, the bankers, oilmen and politicians win.
“the military are just dumb brutes who are pawns of foreign policy”
-Henry Kissinger (actual quote)
>> true but YOU also are a pawn who spends 3 months of the year paying interest on FED loans.military members have balls and actually do something besides sitting around skinning it in their hometown. for their whole lives. I served in several places and have no regrets and i was good at it too. yes the military are pawns but its a respectable profession and takes some backbone and mental toughness to perform.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
never could understand that decision to punt instead of letting Sea Bass try the 58 yarder
some of those penalties come from aggressive play but a lot of them just stupid. Holding on running plays is stupid. Holding to keep your QB alive makes some sense, but it’s stupid on runs
our run D looked great, pass rush much better, and Sho’Nasty was balling today. OL very inconsistent run blocking in new zbs and pass protection is a real problem.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Last time I looked there was 11 games left. But you two might want to try knitting. I hear its kind of fun.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Post 278 ChrisinNC Says: That’s why YOU are universally despised on this blog because you’re such a jerk. Your personality comes through loud and clear. Post 279 bigsnow81 Says: Well sheit on me and call me a sundae.===== Anybody dim enough not to get it now?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Yeah what a waste of a season. “What could of should of”
Hue!
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
>> it is a game but its also entertainment and with all of the fuking $$$ they make they need to actually TRY to win games. and these players CHOOSE to play so they get to live with the consequences.
—————————
That is exactly what I have been saying. I watched a team that gave max effort today, and I appreciate that because there have been far too many piss-poor efforts the last 10 years. Especially last game in Denver. I was disgusted and didn’t even watch the 4th quarter. It was one of the worst efforts I have ever seen by any team ever in Denver.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Marks Hair,
Sacre looked pretty good the other night. Did you catch the game?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Social Darwinism or “survival of the fittest” is BS. It has nothing to do with natural selection. The term is coined by elites. Poor people are poor because of their inferiority. They die because they are weak.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
>. believe what you want, clearly my statement is too much for you to grasp.
———————-
You act like you coined the phrase “survival of the fittest.” Anyone can spew over used cliche’s that really have no real tangible meaning. Does your wife tell you its the biggest she ever had player?
>> you wanna know my C*ck size now? the strongest and smartest will always dominate the weak and ignorant. if you disagree with that FACT then we all know what group you belong in.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I’m confused as to your theory, snow. Isn’t the idea that the poor are inferior and weak natural selection in and of itself?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
No. It hasnt been on here yet
October 14th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
320.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
306.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
>. so you’re telling me that the Army’s job ISN’T to WIN a war? its all about winning and that can mean survival but either way if you lose in Iraq YOU FUKING DIE old man OK
+++++++++++++++++
irony being, the bankers, oilmen and politicians win.
“the military are just dumb brutes who are pawns of foreign policy”
-Henry Kissinger (actual quote)
>> true but YOU also are a pawn who spends 3 months of the year paying interest on FED loans.military members have balls and actually do something besides sitting around skinning it in their hometown. for their whole lives. I served in several places and have no regrets and i was good at it too. yes the military are pawns but its a respectable profession and takes some backbone and mental toughness to perform.
===============================
i will say the military persons can build a nice little nest egg AVOIDING actual combat and retiring with a pension – there is the G.I. Bill and other upsides for people who’ve survive multiple tours … aside from psychological risk, many have gotten homes, etc., particularly those who have completed OCS. I wish i stayed in the military at times, but that was my choice.
if thats your choice, go for it, by all means. Surviving it, means you have accomplished the ultimate; defied death, achieved victory, etc. I understand the mentality, believe me. Semper Fi.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Raiders defense improved. Raiders offense improved.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Post 278 ChrisinNC Says: That’s why YOU are universally despised on this blog because you’re such a jerk. Your personality comes through loud and clear. Post 279 bigsnow81 Says: Well sheit on me and call me a sundae.===== Anybody dim enough not to get it now?
*********************************************************
Manassa Mauler bunched together.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Social Darwinism or “survival of the fittest” is BS. It has nothing to do with natural selection. The term is coined by elites. Poor people are poor because of their inferiority. They die because they are weak.
>> you REALLy think its BS? well you have “rights” ONLY because your country is strong enough to keep them. if China could overrun us they would.every country on this planet was founded and maintained through warfare and thats the only way it will ever be. economic warfare,military,politcal, you name it. laws of nature, not mine
October 14th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
The smartest people have subjugated us all. I can understand why some would think a warrior society is better. But I think a peaceful civilization is possible, considering we saw a glimpse of it in the 20th century.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
320.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
306.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
>. so you’re telling me that the Army’s job ISN’T to WIN a war? its all about winning and that can mean survival but either way if you lose in Iraq YOU FUKING DIE old man OK
+++++++++++++++++
irony being, the bankers, oilmen and politicians win.
“the military are just dumb brutes who are pawns of foreign policy”
-Henry Kissinger (actual quote)
>> true but YOU also are a pawn who spends 3 months of the year paying interest on FED loans.military members have balls and actually do something besides sitting around skinning it in their hometown. for their whole lives. I served in several places and have no regrets and i was good at it too. yes the military are pawns but its a respectable profession and takes some backbone and mental toughness to perform.
===============================
i will say the military persons can build a nice little nest egg AVOIDING actual combat and retiring with a pension – there is the G.I. Bill and other upsides for people who’ve survive multiple tours … aside from psychological risk, many have gotten homes, etc., particularly those who have completed OCS. I wish i stayed in the military at times, but that was my choice.
if thats your choice, go for it, by all means. Surviving it, means you have accomplished the ultimate; defied death, achieved victory, etc. I understand the mentality, believe me. Semper Fi.
*******************************************************
Cold comfort for the thousands with PTSD.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
He nearly had a double double against Utah against their first team. I think he’ll be a good back up for Dwight.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
What did anyone expect from a team that lost 4 of its last 5 games last year and finished without a winning record?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
we’d be 4-1 or 5-0 if hue was coaching.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
>> you wanna know my C*ck size now? the strongest and smartest will always dominate the weak and ignorant. if you disagree with that FACT then we all know what group you belong in.
———————-
I thought we were talking about a football game until you brang survival into it? They are playing a GAME, Dude. It is nowhere near the battle that the talking heads would like to make you believe it is.
It has absolutely no bearing on survival or any real issues in this world, so just keep it a game.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Social Darwinism or “survival of the fittest” is BS. It has nothing to do with natural selection. The term is coined by elites. Poor people are poor because of their inferiority. They die because they are weak.
>> you REALLy think its BS? well you have “rights” ONLY because your country is strong enough to keep them. if China could overrun us they would.every country on this planet was founded and maintained through warfare and thats the only way it will ever be. economic warfare,military,politcal, you name it. laws of nature, not mine
*******************************************************
You can choose to be manipulated by the powers that be. I will resist the odious oligarchs that control our country.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I have the season pass from dish though.. its laker time now
October 14th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Who will dominate between the smartest and strongest? Is it safe to say the smartest are dominating now? You make it sound as if the smart and the strong are two in the same.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
The smartest people have subjugated us all. I can understand why some would think a warrior society is better. But I think a peaceful civilization is possible, considering we saw a glimpse of it in the 20th century.
>>> a warrior society is what we have always had. conquer or be conquered. all of this leftism is just veiled slavery to the state. they are subjugating us and making us timid an weak. a country or people can either rise of fall it can’t stay or the same. conquer or be conquered. a peaceful civilization is not possible and nor should it be. man needs enemies and REAL challenges or he will shrivel up and die. greatest civilizations, rome, greece, samurai in japan were all warrior classes and they thrived, has nothing to do with intellectual development.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
Purv,
I grew up in San Gabriel and no, I don’t think South Beach is cool but it’s there and so are the ladies.==========I was born in San Gabriel(well, born in st lukes hosp. in pasadena) but lived in san gabrial til i was almost 1 yr. old. Then we moved to Pasadena Don’t remember much of the early years, obviously.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
>> you wanna know my C*ck size now? the strongest and smartest will always dominate the weak and ignorant. if you disagree with that FACT then we all know what group you belong in.
———————-
I thought we were talking about a football game until you brang survival into it? They are playing a GAME, Dude. It is nowhere near the battle that the talking heads would like to make you believe it is.
It has absolutely no bearing on survival or any real issues in this world, so just keep it a game.
*******************************************************
This would imply that all intelligent people sell out for monetary purposes.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
The strong fall in the category of the dumb and ignorant, counter-likewise the smart fall in the category of the physically weak. This is why your theory is flawed.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Gonzagas a solid program.. and the lakers know how to find bigs.. it wouldnt surprise me if he makes the team
October 14th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Raider E Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
>> you wanna know my C*ck size now? the strongest and smartest will always dominate the weak and ignorant. if you disagree with that FACT then we all know what group you belong in.
———————-
I thought we were talking about a football game until you brang survival into it? They are playing a GAME, Dude. It is nowhere near the battle that the talking heads would like to make you believe it is.
It has absolutely no bearing on survival or any real issues in this world, so just keep it a game.
>> well they are paid millions for chasing a football around so the least they could do is win and not expect a pat on the back when they don’t.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Lakers all the way!
Dwight will be ready for opening day, CAN’T WAIT.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
The strong fall in the category of the dumb and ignorant, counter-likewise the smart fall in the category of the physically weak. This is why your theory is flawed.
*********************************************************
The issue is not black and white.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Purv,
I grew up in San Gabriel and no, I don’t think South Beach is cool but it’s there and so are the ladies. I actually hate all the douche and douchettes that roam the streets of SoBe.
—
I like South Beach. Went on vacation there and for business once. I stayed at the Avalon for my vaca. and some other place in North Miami Beach? I love the art deco hotels and that nice ocean breeze.
I sound like an ad for a travel magazine.
I did like the whole vibe down there. It was cool.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
People put to much emphasis on a game. The 49ers fans shanked a man today.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
The strong fall in the category of the dumb and ignorant, counter-likewise the smart fall in the category of the physically weak. This is why your theory is flawed.
>> its not my theory. the strong dominate the weak, and they should, can’t have inbred tweakers running government. problem now is that we are todl that everybody is equal, not to judge and then get to pay for their incompttence. makes no sense outside of a politcal powe consolidation viewpoint.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
The strong dominate the weak, the smart dominate the strong. Right now, the smart are on top.
The very concept of America is liberal. Monarchies are as conservative as you can get. What the King says goes.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
let nature runs its course and humanity will be healthier and stronger for it. everything I’m saying will happen regardless of our opinions. nature always decides
October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Some of you need to learn the concept of drinking in moderation.==============Moderation is for monks. To get the full flavor of life, take big bites.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Your implying that all wealthy people are intelligent. People are born into wealth. That doesn’t make them intelligent. Poor people can be intelligent. Wealthy people can be ignorant. Money controls the world. When there is no buffer between rich and poor, all we have left is revolution.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Excerpt from the notebook of Lazarus Long.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
I’ve always found it interesting that the business world, dominated by the physically weak, use barbaric, warrior like terminology to describe their acquisitions.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Who is Lazarus Long, if I may ask?
October 14th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
The strong dominate the weak, the smart dominate the strong. Right now, the smart are on top.
The very concept of America is liberal. Monarchies are as conservative as you can get. What the King says goes.
>> you’re over complicating it. ever hear of the phrase “best AND brightest? one and the same. government makes its HARDER for the best to succeed because the GOV wants power and uses the ignorant masses to control us all.but something as unnatural as govt will eventually collapse as will our “democracy” and nature will even it all out. always does. all nations fall and rise again. democracy can’t last, we’re seeing it crumbling right now.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Dj,
It’s great to visit but I lived on the beach and like everything else in life, it gets old. It’s basically, drugs, money, sex, pretentious ppl and security at club doors acting like pricks. I’m more of the bar/lounge type but the beaches and water is great and so is the booming restaurant/food scene.
The Florida keys are great!
October 14th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Government is made up of people, started by people. Talk about complicating a discussion. You make it sound like government is like a flying saucer that landed in a desert. Government is a body of people, elected by people. If not, then they were put in place by barbaric forces, be them businessmen or armies. Take your pick.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
DJ Johnny Says: Who is Lazarus Long, if I may ask?====You lurking, DJ?
October 14th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I am proud the way the Raiders played today.The Raiders fought till their last breath and that is all one can ask while fighting to win a big game. Relax Knapp you fought, relax Coach Allen you fought, Relax Raiders and the Raider Nation you fought extremely hard this sunday to the max. Lets ready ourselves for a win next week.
Raiders Be With You
October 14th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Except for the niner loss, what a lousy day in sports. Really want to see a yankee-giants world series, like in ‘61.
Green Bay was a good win, but I really thought knapp would win this one for houston. I know he really wanted to show his buds in Houston he could beat Atlanta.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Considering its the business world that uses this term “government” the most in a manner which implies government is a threat, it tells me government was started by people, an idea by people, who don’t feel that the wealthiest traders should control the world. Sounds like a noble concept to me.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Lazarus Long lived many hundreds of years and acquired some wisdom in that time.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Hue Jackson? Thats a joke right?
October 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Miami,
I’ve heard that about the keys. I’ll have to check it out sometime.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
The united states “government”, started by men who feared a monarchy would try to impose law on this land.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Lazarus Long lived many hundreds of years and acquired some wisdom in that time.
—
Got ya.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
The original foe of government, at least US government: the British monarchy. It would be interesting to compare their rhetoric to the foe of us government today, which are the typically the wealthiest Americans and white males of all economic classes.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
British monarchy believed the government America’s founding fathers created was a threat to their values. Foes of America’s government today feel the same. Coincidence, or paradox?
October 14th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Purvisman,
I might have to check out Robert Heinlein’s books.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
DJ, he was a character in several sci-fi stories by Robert Heinlein, most notably “Stranger in a Strange Land”. A quick google/wickipedia search will fill you in. Great read, by the way.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
375.Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
British monarchy believed the government America’s founding fathers created was a threat to their values. Foes of America’s government today feel the same. Coincidence, or paradox?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I believe the invention of the concept of America was detailed in the Francis Bacon book New Atlantis (an unfinished work). the Eagle was not the original symbol, it was a phoenix. The founding fathers or shall we say, framers of the constitution were Deists, they believed in a version of the bible, not necessarily fundamentalist Christianity.
The only threat america posed, was not paying colonial script *now called taxes. So, America was controlled and fought over with the Hessian Mercenaries sent over in the War of 1812 – which America successfully resisted.
Paradox, indeed.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Sorry, I’m a little distracted right now. It is good to know someone is out there waiting for someone else to talk to while others are solving the geo-political maladies of our times.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Purvisman, Yes. I am intrigued.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Yes, don’t be alarmed. What your about to read is a true statement. If your a good and decent person vote for what you think is right for you.
364.Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Government is made up of people, started by people. Talk about complicating a discussion. You make it sound like government is like a flying saucer that landed in a desert. Government is a body of people, elected by people.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
336.bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
320.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
306.manassamauler Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I served in the Army as well. Don’t preach winning BS to me.
>. so you’re telling me that the Army’s job ISN’T to WIN a war? its all about winning and that can mean survival but either way if you lose in Iraq YOU FUKING DIE old man OK
+++++++++++++++++
irony being, the bankers, oilmen and politicians win.
“the military are just dumb brutes who are pawns of foreign policy”
-Henry Kissinger (actual quote)
>> true but YOU also are a pawn who spends 3 months of the year paying interest on FED loans.military members have balls and actually do something besides sitting around skinning it in their hometown. for their whole lives. I served in several places and have no regrets and i was good at it too. yes the military are pawns but its a respectable profession and takes some backbone and mental toughness to perform.
===============================
i will say the military persons can build a nice little nest egg AVOIDING actual combat and retiring with a pension – there is the G.I. Bill and other upsides for people who’ve survive multiple tours … aside from psychological risk, many have gotten homes, etc., particularly those who have completed OCS. I wish i stayed in the military at times, but that was my choice.
if thats your choice, go for it, by all means. Surviving it, means you have accomplished the ultimate; defied death, achieved victory, etc. I understand the mentality, believe me. Semper Fi.
*******************************************************
Cold comfort for the thousands with PTSD.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
true, unfortunately…..symbolism, heroism, sacrifice..
“the things that made America great?”
October 14th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Paradoxical, how, exactly? Didn’t follow that.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/
If anyone is interested, the idea of this website is to find, check, and spread the universal truth of life, the ultimate truth.
I don’t know but I really liked reading it.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Well, DJ, when I grew up, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and there was no color tv, we used to read books. OK, joking, buit I started with detective stories and then, oh god I’m tying into this blogs focus,puberty hit and I read nothing but war novels(thirty seconds over tokyo, the battle of the pacific, etc.), and around fourteen it was all science fiction all the time. The ‘I’m too cool for the masters’ crowd will dis the greats, but we have to start with Heinlein, Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clark. Anyway, this might not be the venue to get into all that.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
On the contrary ,if your not a good and decent person vote for what is right for the people.Selfishness may not always lead to ruin but it may ruin oneself.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
A man should look for what is and not for what he thinks should be.
Albert Einstein
“Before God we are all equally wise – and equally foolish”
-Albert Einstein
the ultimate truth? Man is his own worst enemy. I believe during the Nazi Occupation, many found religion comforting as well as hypocritical.
as for SF; Greg Bear, and Rendevous with Rama were my favorite author and book – David Fincher had been trying to adapt that title into a movie for years.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
We have enough talent to win against the Steelers, compete with the undefeated Falcons at home, (without our starting CBs & RT), and some of you think we don’t have enough talent to make the POs?
October 14th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
likes.
RaiderSam Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
A man should look for what is and not for what he thinks should be.
Albert Einstein
“Before God we are all equally wise – and equally foolish”
-Albert Einstein
October 14th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
I live my life by my own saying
Life is a dream and death is a reality
Enjoy it while you’re here and make the most of it.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Jeez, I just looked at the box score and we played the game we had to play and still came up short. tp://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012101400/2012/REG6/raiders@falcons#menu=highlights&tab=analyze This one hurt, but I said if we play like we meam it I’ll remain ardent, and we did.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Very well put.
390.MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
I live my life by my own saying
Life is a dream and death is a reality
Enjoy it while you’re here and make the most of it.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
That’s right, nfl doesn’t let you copy and paste their website as a link. What’s up with that?
copy and paste this in the address bar excluding parentheses (www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012101400/2012/REG6/raiders@falcons#menu=highlights&tab=analyze )
October 15th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Where is Amy the 49er troll? Probably drinking into oblivion after watching the World Champs with a “real” QB destroy the POS 49ers! Ha ha ha ha ha!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Sometimes losing does not hurt so bad and tonight I feel that way for some reason. As long as the Raiders don’t make it a habit I will ride with this one.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
We need a franchise QB.
…………………………………………………
Granted that why is Terrell Pryor sitting htere and the team is nor using him. Both Palmer and his backup should be dropped. Bring in a proven QB coach. Apologized to Rich Gannon, sign Vince Young to move yardsticks for QB option, get rid of WR who keeping dropping the rock. Otherwise time to fire Reggie at the end of the season like other minority coaches! Shell and HueJax. What works in GB doesn’t works in Oakland. Thanks Mark, Grandpa Al would wrapped his hands around your neck!!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Sullivan44 Says:We need a franchise QB.
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
C. Palmer 23/33 353 1 1
M. Ryan 24/37 249 1 3
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 am
They don’t play cohesively or consistently good enough to win their next three games. Besides the opposition must be counting on their matchup with the Raiders as a win.
Not like it can’t happen but first, you can NEVER overlook your next game. Your season consists only of the next game on the schedule, the game you are preparing for. No getting ahead of yorself by looking “down the road” @ possible wins. . . And, especially for a team like the Raiders where glaring holes abound everywhere even if they won Sunday it is no guarantee of their fate next Sunday.
Also, the paradox to consider is the true reason the Brits wanted to claim America for their own; war debt.
The English were in the brink of bankruptcy due to prolonged wars against the Spanish & the French. Their coffers were empty; their banks destitute. Their answer? Tax the hell outta the colonies & keep them as part of the Commonwealth. . .
The main reason they lost the Revolutionary War (which they didn’t lose by occupancy of the colonies) was the mere fact they could no longer afford to fight this war as well. This is why they returned to fight the war of 1812. . .
Sound like the former Soviet Union? Or Nazi Germany? Or what could become the United States in the aftermath of Iraq, Afghanistan, the S & N bailout, Wall Street Bailout, the accompanying housing crunch, loss of the manufacturing base & the auto manufactureres bailout? Not to mention multi billion dollar subsidy to the oil companies. . .
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 am
bigs now realy said that/
October 15th, 2012 at 12:21 am
antispy3 Says: Not like it can’t happen but first, you can NEVER overlook your next game. Your season consists only of the next game on the schedule, the game you are preparing for. No getting ahead of yorself by looking “down the road” @ possible wins. . . And, especially for a team like the Raiders where glaring holes abound==============Thought they played that way, today.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:40 am
Once again, the clock beat us. With 48 seconds left and 3 timeouts left, Allen stopped the clock. He should have let it wind down to 30 seconds. He left the field with 2 useless timeouts left! If he had Atlanta would have had 25 seconds to score a field go to win. When will HC learn??? When will DC’S learn that prevent = loss?!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:07 am
rolando mcclain with 3 tackles today. go get ‘em tiger!
October 15th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 By Raiders Central, on October 14th, 2012 Thoughts from afar on Raiders loss to Falcons – ibabuzz.com 10/15/2012 Stayed behind for Sunday’s game against the Atlanta Falcons. [...]
October 15th, 2012 at 3:32 am
Trade DMC?! Are you guys kidding? Guy is a talented back and plays his butt off. Great hustle to make that tackle at the 2yd line. He saved a TD. Oh and by the way, get out of DMC’s way. He destroyed that corner back on the run that got called back. Guy can also catch and block as well. I’ll admit, he’s having a bit of a tuff time getting it going this season, but he will. Just taking some time. He’s had some excellent runs thus far. I say “No” to trading him. To many intangibles there.
Also, am I the only one on this board who liked Just Fargas?? Miss that guy. Dude was a wrecking ball! Guy continually gave up his body. Fargas was one tuff son of a b$tch!
October 15th, 2012 at 3:46 am
That was a tough loss. Still we did play much much better than we did against the donk’s. I take a lot of positives from the game and want to see more of that type of play. As for Carson Palmer I agree he’s not a Rich Gannon but he’s not a bad QB in fact I think he’s quite good. He’s not the first QB to throw an interception on a game winning drive. I know Stabler and Plunkett did that….As long as he remains injury free he’s here for the season so let’s not abuse him and support him. After all he is wearing the Silver & Black.
Go Raiders!
October 15th, 2012 at 4:20 am
1NATION #1
Morning all.
Damn proud of the squad.We got the old ‘Lucy snatching the ball from Charlie Brown’ treatment yesterday but no one quit.
LondonAl…..you think CP is quite good?I believe he’s one of the best we’ve ever had.Gannon was a scrub with all the stats and none of the wins that matter.CP is gonna take us where Gannon could only lose.The Falcon D had him throwing off his back foot all day and his stats are outstanding.He took a beating…..their D is real good….we were holding
em on damn near every play….the refs got to the point where they were only flagging the outright tackles otherwise the game would still be going on.
Riderm……no you are not alone in your admiration
of Mr J.Fargas.He ran like Eric Dickerson only without the size.I really feared for his health but
what a Bulldog.His Dad was a TV actor here a ways back.
And DrBob…..will you get off Romac’s back before he starts treating you ‘like whore in palace’.lol
What a game!!!!!!!We’ll get the bastards….As they
say in Istanbul….’we have the time if you have the money’.
October 15th, 2012 at 4:46 am
Riderm…forget about the morons who want to get rid of everyone.Watch some close up footage of Dmac…dude is
a Defense worst nightmare…..he punishes linemen.!!!He ain’t going anywhere….these are the the same morons
who wish to see the debacle that would ensue by replacing CP with Pryor.
The old joke about the difference between a Cavalry
Charger and a Draft Horse apply.
One darts into the fray….the other farts into the dray.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:21 am
CP3,throws a nice long ball, can take a hit,has some leadership skills it seems, excellent stats, below average on 3rd down and the red zone,but most of all doesnt win.
Cp3=Jeff George
October 15th, 2012 at 5:30 am
The main reason to trade DMAC is because he is unlikely to resign with us. I am sure he has had enough and would love to play back east.
Reggie is going to want something especially if he can regain his second round pick and possibly more.
When DMAC went down against KC in his first year he took a pain shot the next game against Jax (i think)
That game he was messed up, tripping and stumbling and was hurt more and said he would never take another one.
I think Kiff and or the Raiders org really pissed him off over that. I dunno if he still has hard feelings but I believe so and then he has to contend with all the other BS and new owner/ etc.
Would’nt you want out?
October 15th, 2012 at 5:33 am
Plus RB’s are suppose to be cheap in the CBS. Thats a big for running the CBS. RB’s are cheap and easily replaced, same with the Oline.
Frees up money for QB, WR and D
October 15th, 2012 at 5:40 am
I know I am in the minority, but I am feel pretty good about this squad.
Clearly outmatched at about 20 of the 22 starting positions, we had a chance to win on the road. This was a better post bye game than last season, especially defensively, when we had the Tebow debacle.
As I said all last week, I think we will be favored in all 3 of our next games, and will win at least 2 of the 3, and at least give us some somewhat meaningful football to watch.
Lessons learned. Veldheer is no lock at LT for years to come, Rolando and our defense works best with him as our “run-stuffing” specialist and not on the field in clear passing downs, Shane got outpunted by the opponent AGAIN (that’s 4 in 5 games by my count), D-Moore is our best offensive player, not McFadden.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Palmer threw one bad pass yesterday. It was a big one, for sure. But, I saw a future Hall of Famer, Brett Favre, do that plenty of times. We would have had no shot of winning that game if it wasn’t for Palmer. He isn’t our future, but he gives us the best shot at winning games. Playing Pryor would lead to a 1-15 season.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:45 am
in 1997 Jeff George threw for 3917 yds for the raiders. He also had 29tds and just 9 ints. but the raiders went 4-12.CP3 is our new Jeff george . Cp3 career Winning percentage is 51-60. Cp3 has talent but in reality has yet to show in his career he is a winner. I hope things turn for him and us and IMO anything less than 4-4 will be a major disappointment.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:45 am
I like Mike Goodson as well, different type of change of pace back.
He breaks A LOT of tackles, he gets real small, just bangs into people and keeps going.
Not a guy who gets a dozen touches a game, but a guy who can do something with 4-5 touches (note to Taiwan).
October 15th, 2012 at 5:45 am
I say trade Dmac because I doubt Reggie will resign him. We need lineman and DBs more than a RB. Goodson and Jones can finish up the season and give us the same production that Dmac has given.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Palmer played a great game, but you can’t throw that pass that was an INT.
The strip-fumble was the result of the Veldheer completely whiffing. He at least gets a hand on the guy for a split second, that doesn’t happen.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:49 am
What can we trade D-Mac for? A 4th round pick, maybe a 3rd?
RB’s have NO trade value, especially mid-season.
What did Brandon Lloyd get in trade compensation last year midseason? I think it was a 6th. That’s what we would be looking at.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Matt Ryan threw 3 INTs. I bet Atlanta fans aren’t calling for his back up.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I bet we could get a 2nd round pick for McFadden. He could be All-Pro with the right team.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Matt Ryan threw 3 INTs. I bet Atlanta fans aren’t calling for his back up.
———–
Probably because they’re 6-0
October 15th, 2012 at 5:53 am
If Raiders were 6-0, and Palmer threw 3 INTs, there would still be guys wanting Pryor to play.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Marshall Faulk in his prime went for a 2nd round pick, I can’t see it for McFadden getting the same.
I also don’t think we should trade him, he is starting to look better.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:54 am
The Raiders could lose the next 6 games in a row, and Pryor will still be inactive.
He is not an option as an NFL QB, at least not in 2012.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 5:53 am
If Raiders were 6-0, and Palmer threw 3 INTs, there would still be guys wanting Pryor to play.
———–
Ifs and buts, blah blah blah……
October 15th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Matt Ryan threw 3 INTs. I bet Atlanta fans aren’t calling for his back up.
———————————-
not sure whose calling for pryor, but i ll take Matt Ryan 3 ints and a win over CP3 1 int(which you could argue was the biggest play of the game) and a loss. If the raiders are 2-6 or 3-6 , then before we draft a qb next year we should see what pryor has. if we are 4-4 then Palmer should be at the helm.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:57 am
The point is Palmer isn’t the reason the Raiders are 1-4. He gives a shot at winning. We would be 0-5 without him.
October 15th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Wow, am I reading that correctly? Trade DMAC, start Pryor? For real? We came out swinging…our offense stalled one too many times for me…was that Palmer’s fault? IMHO…No! 3rd and goal and a sweep for DMAC that gets stopped? Meyers dropping that pass…although i don’t agree with Corky…I swear I seen the defender’s hand in there batting it…
That int was killer but he at least brought them back to tie…but like in the Buffalo game…too much time on the clock and why did the friggen D go on prevent???
But hey…at least we scored more than 3 points!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Put Matt Ryan on the Raiders, we would still be 1-4.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Put Knapp on the Falcons and Ryan would be 1-4
October 15th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 5:57 am
The point is Palmer isn’t the reason the Raiders are 1-4. He gives a shot at winning. We would be 0-5 without him.
————————
and have 9-12 mil of extra money to spend, plus our 1st round draft pick from this year and 2nd round next year.Bottom line, CP3 has ability, leadership skills, will take hits but struggles on 3rd down and in red zone. unfortunately for us hes not learned yet how to win as his 51-60 wl record points out. I hope he turns it around for him and us, the next 3 games are winnable games and a quality franchise qb would carry us to victory against the jags,kc, and tb..
October 15th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Ive never seen a team have so much trouble scoring from the 1yd line.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:07 am
KoolKell Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Ive never seen a team have so much trouble scoring from the 1yd line.
I agree!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Well it’s nice to see there’s not so much doom and gloom after this one. Penalties and one bad throw by Palmer did us in but we were competitive until the end. That’s progress! Hey we all see it takes a complete game to win in the NFL and we just aren’t there yet but yesterday we didn’t give up and we kept fighting.
WE’LL GET THERE HAVE FAITH RAIDER FANS!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:10 am
1st & goal, and the Raiders in trouble.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Glad there are other folks who appreciated Fargas. Dude was a punishing, fearless runner. DMC is the same way. He is going to make you pay if you get in his way. Trent Richardson is that type of back as well.
Anywho, great effort by the guys yesterday. Heart breaking that they lost. What a much different effort from the Denver game!
I don’t think this has been mentioned…I was screaming at the TV before the TD, where we tied. Palmer called a timeout with around 40 seconds on the clock. We were at the 2yd line. Well, at that pont there still had to be a ton of time on the play clock. Not sure how much, because it wasn’t shown on TV. But, they should have let the play clock run all the way down. Hell, we were on the 2. Even if they let it run down to where there would have been 25 seconds on the game clock, we would have been fine. Still have a tone of time with all timeouts and being on the 2yd line. So, we score and they get the ball back with 40 seconds or so. Falcons should have gotten the ball back with around the 20 – 25 seconds. That 15-20 second time difference would have been huge!! FRUSTRATING!!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:11 am
i think DA needs to evaluate halftime. ive never seen an offense consistently look flat after half time like ours.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Mornin’ Nation.
Bitter, bitter loss but if the team plays like that the next 3 weeks, there’s no reason they can’t be .500 heading into the trip to Baltimore, who’s defense suddenly looks a lot less invincible. One game at a time, though.
Kudos to Palmer for taking the bullet for his joke of an offensive line. Not your fault, CP.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Riderm Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 6:11 am
I don’t think this has been mentioned…I was screaming at the TV before the TD, where we tied. Palmer called a timeout with around 40 seconds on the clock. We were at the 2yd line. Well, at that pont there still had to be a ton of time on the play clock. Not sure how much, because it wasn’t shown on TV. But, they should have let the play clock run all the way down. Hell, we were on the 2. Even if they let it run down to where there would have been 25 seconds on the game clock, we would have been fine. Still have a tone of time with all timeouts and being on the 2yd line. So, we score and they get the ball back with 40 seconds or so. Falcons should have gotten the ball back with around the 20 – 25 seconds. That 15-20 second time difference would have been huge!! FRUSTRATING!!!!
———————–
i thought that time out was charged to falcons for an injury
October 15th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Nycraider…was it??? Maybe you’re right. Could have sworn we called T.O. But maybe I’m wrong on that.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:18 am
i think samuels went down..i think the announcer said we called it but it counted against the falcons
October 15th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Raiders left too much time on the clock. But, you can’t take any chances there. Raiders needed a TD, and those don’t come easy for this offense.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Tarver had a great gameplan and did an equally good job getting his crew up to play. Only 1 official sack, but they laid 9 hits on Ryan, I believe.
Shaughnessy had his first truly big game with a sack, 3 TFL and 3 QB hits. can he keep it up?
Turnovers really do come in bunches it seems.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:20 am
DIDNT MATTER WITH THE FALCONS COMING RIGHT BACK DOWN THE FIELD TO WIN THE GAME,BUT I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE D.A. SACK UP AND GO FOR 2 AFTER THE LAST T.D.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:20 am
If Raiders don’t win at least 2 out of the next 3 games, I wouldn’t mind seeing what Pryor can do. The season will over at that point anyways.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Ok, lots going on in that last minute as I was a nervous wreck on the edge of my seat. Guess I was wrong on that. Thanks for pointing it out. Makes me feel somewhat better knowing that and the clock wasn’t mismanaged by DA.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Can’t wait to get ahold of the coaches tape for this one and see why Goodson was so much more successful even on just 4 carries than DMac.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:23 am
D-Mac being the starter when his back up is better is problem #1. D-Mac would be a great change of pace back or even in the slot with Goodson for some tight reverses or trick plays. Coaching Coaching Coaching, Fuk, Coaching was horrible in this game. From the punt no FG in a DOME! to getting the ball with 49 seconds and running up the middle and letting the clock kill the half. The worst was that D at the end of the game. With all that said, our boys made me proud. They played their rears off. To the Palmer haters STFU, you all don’t even realize the top ten QB we got. Not good enough for ya? Lets trade away our future for_______________! WTF do ya all want. The Fumble was all Oline, that’s why it’s called the blind side. The pic was all Samuel, great play. He could of held the ball a second more and maybe Moore would’ve got the separation maybe not. Bunch of arm chair over weight Monday morning QB’s
October 15th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Albert….you’re wrong, you can take a chance there. We had 3 TO’s and a ton of time left on the clock. And we were at the 2. That’s a ton of time!!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:25 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Can’t wait to get ahold of the coaches tape for this one and see why Goodson was so much more successful even on just 4 carries than DMac.
————
i am a big dmac fan but thought he missed some cutbacks that could have led to big gains. whats concerning me a bout dmac is the drops on passes. somethings not right
October 15th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Riderm Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Albert….you’re wrong, you can take a chance there. We had 3 TO’s and a ton of time left on the clock. And we were at the 2. That’s a ton of time!!
—-
True, but as Kell says. We can’t score when he have first and goal. It’s like pulling teeth. Defense could have stopped Falcons if they put some pressure on Ryan. Shouldn’t have blitzed some.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:34 am
was very surprised tarver called for defenses that allowed the falcons to get out of bounds with only 1 time out left.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:40 am
if you have jano, a pro bowl kicker who specializes in long kicks, your in a dome, why wouldnt you attempt a fg.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:44 am
WELCOME BACK PENALTY’S !!!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:49 am
I really thought he should have tried the long FG, but we punted, and actually forced a punt back and made a FG our next possession.
So we played the field position game, and it actually worked.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:56 am
So is corner still an issue?
October 15th, 2012 at 6:56 am
1st rd pick = OT
October 15th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Hey, no longer dead last in rushing offense, we can all breath a sigh of relief there.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Huff played his azz off at CB, got to give him props for that.
October 15th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Nycraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 6:34 am
was very surprised tarver called for defenses that allowed the falcons to get out of bounds with only 1 time out left.
—————————
Me too. That’s what lost the game, IMO. We had mo for overtime
October 15th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Matt Ryan leads the NFL in 4th quarter comeback drives since he came into the NFL.
Two weeks ago, he went from his own 1 yard line, with no timeouts, into FG range, in about 25 seconds.
We were at the mercy of the FG kicker there, as is the rest of the NFL.
He is just too good in those situations.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Jano kicks a Touchback with 40 seconds, and you passively let them stroll downfield for the winning FG? Chuck Bresnahan anyone?
C’mon.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:04 am
That was a great effort yesterday. unfortunately a loss is a loss, but many positives to build from! You know, I thought for sure that we wouldn’t have scored to tie and the Falcons would have covered the spread…lol…so close!
October 15th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Shane is 6th in average and 14th in net.
Not going to cut it as a high salaried punter.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:08 am
The late comeback after the pick 6 was very impressive. We had big mo going into overtime, but Tarver went to the time tested loser Prevent Defense.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:09 am
461,
Not only Bresnahan but Rob Ryan, John Marshall and every other DC we’ve had since the 80’s it seems.
I have NEVER seen a Raider DC that put the clamps down on a team in those situations. They ALWAYS let the other team drive down for that final shot at the fg..or worse.
Maybe it’s happened but i don’t recall ever seeing us stop them in those situations.
Maybe the Houston game counts as that, but when the other team just needs that final fg to beat us they always get that last shot at it.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Tuff loss. I was very bitter after this one. It just felt like a game we SHOULD have won. Defeat getting snatched from jaws of victory.
What makes it particularly painful is that very rarely if ever do teams come back from 1-4 to make playoffs…Pitt. did it in the 70’s but that’s Pittsbugh…coming off two SB wins.
To have the real prospect that season is over…ALREADY…doesn’t feel very good.
They did prove one thing. They can play with anyone in the league when they are on their game.
That is progress.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Whine and complain as most bloggers in here might, but we held a top 5 offense, and the consensus early league MVP and offensive player of the year in Matt Ryan to 1 TD and 3 fg’s on the day. That was a top 5 showing by our defense yesterday. Sure they let Ryan drive down for the game winner, but that happens. The penalties in that game absolutely killed us. We lost over 80 rushing yards on Willie Smith holds alone.
The late int by Samuels was classic Assante play, he is notorious for jumping those come back routes. It was insane to me with the speed we have at WR that we weren’t running the double move and go on him at all, he is notoriously suseptible to the double move. Hagan used it on the last drive for that big play.
Sure I would have loved to run the clock down before we scored the tying td, but we have been terrible in the redzone, we cant afford to squander downs in goal to go situations. We have to score when we can get in, period.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Matt Ryan is 30-4 with 11 game winning 4th drives at home in his regular season career.
What he did to us with 40 seconds left, is what he does to almost every team he plays.
Shouldn’t have given him 40 seconds, that was the bigger error.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:22 am
We need another WR like Moore.
Speed and all.
We need an OT in the worst way.
Ima check Ebay right quick.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:25 am
463.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Shane is 6th in average and 14th in net.
Not going to cut it as a high salaried punter.
************************
His numbers are totally skewed by the SD game.
I also agree that it was a very poor call by Allen to forgo the 58 yarder early on in favor of the punt. IMO, if you are inside of 63 you kick it. If not, why are we paying Janikowski. Sign a guy like Sean Suisham for league minimum and know you rage is only 50 yards.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Well, I couldn’t make it back from a trip with the inlaws so I missed the game.
Can some of the regulars who actually watched the entire game break it down for me? I trust you guys more than media oulets.
I don’t mean a play by play, just an overall take, who played well and who playd bad, how did scheming and coaching looked….you know.
Thanks in advance, I’ll check back later to read what you had to say.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Loss was nonsense…not a fan of moral victories…but at least they competed.
Sadly, standards and expectations are now so low..that they are becoming those “lovable losers”….like your kids Little League Team…we are cheering the effort over the results.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:28 am
We passed on the 58 yarder, but got a 51 yarder our next possession.
So I disagree with the theory, but the outcome favors coach Allen.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:28 am
4-4 here we come…right?.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:29 am
J Hill Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:22 am
We need another WR like Moore.
Speed and all.
We need an OT in the worst way.
======================================================
We do need SOMEONE on the roster to give DMoore some help out there on a consistent basis.
That INT had a lot to do with the fact that DMoore is one of the few consistently making plays in the passing game.
I know its been repeated…but DHB really needs to step up
October 15th, 2012 at 7:30 am
JFB, SNBPA, DJ, SNBOffense and others…..give me your takes!.
Later.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Perhaps they should just go with Streeter and D.Moore and let DHB spell the rotation here and there.
DHB just doesn’t make many catches
October 15th, 2012 at 7:31 am
The team showed real improvement in every area (except penalties… there were a few ticky tack calls that had me scratching my head, but most were legit). Hell even McClain made a goal line stick on Turner after Palmers fumble. I mean, look at what Atlanta did to the rest of our division… They smeared them. I know there is no moral victory category, but most people in here pegged this as a 20+ point loss. I liked what I saw for the most part, if we play that hard week in and week out, and clean up some very correctable mistakes, this team will surprise some people.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:31 am
474.Bob Marley Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:28 am
4-4 here we come…right?.
+++++++++++++++++++
No doubt. Starts at O.co on Sunday.
Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17
October 15th, 2012 at 7:31 am
For a guy who missed the game, I’m feeling pretty good about us after yesterday, am I mistaken?.
Ok, now I’m out.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Season over.. we’re playing for pride and draft pos now..
October 15th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Matt Ryan is 30-4 with 11 game winning 4th drives at home in his regular season career.
What he did to us with 40 seconds left, is what he does to almost every team he plays.
Shouldn’t have given him 40 seconds, that was the bigger error.
————–
Excuses excuses excuses, Bull-Sheet. You can’t tie the game with 40 seconds left against Matt Ryan?
We have no right to expect to hold a team for 40 seconds? BULLSCHIT excuse.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:33 am
i miss the replacement refs
October 15th, 2012 at 7:34 am
476.Bob Marley Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:30 am
JFB, SNBPA, DJ, SNBOffense and others…..give me your takes!.
Later.
++++++++++
Pretty brief: we win the game if the offensive line doesn’t implode.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Bcz24,
All of that is true, but sadly this “improvement” is being done by players that most likely won’t be here.
With the exception of D.Moore, Streeter and Jano, its hard to say that anyone else on the roster has a “guaranteed” spot going into 2013.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Bob,
-Huff played great, DB’s competed, got a little pass rush at times to force a few hurried throws and one pick.
-DA passed on a 58 yard FG attempt and instead punted. Not a favorable move in here. Later got a challenge on an a completed ATL pass that I didn’t see, and forced a punt. 6 for 6 on challenges so far for DA.
-Veldheer and Smith were abused in pass protection. Lots of penalites on both, negating two 20+ yard McFadden runs.
-Tarver started rolling with a 4-2-5 defene, and pulled McClain off the field (the two LBs were Wheeler and Burris). Worked to mix results but mostly frustrated the Falcons, and McCLain came back in later and stuffed a 3rd and goal run from the 1 forcing a FG.
-Goodson had 4 carries, and didn’t seem to have any issue picking a wide open hole. Bizarre how easy he made it look a couple of times.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:35 am
We do need SOMEONE on the roster to give DMoore some help out there on a consistent basis.
That INT had a lot to do with the fact that DMoore is one of the few consistently making plays in the passing game.
I know its been repeated…but DHB really needs to step up
**************************
Did you see the end around by DHB? Its not for a lack of trying. Not sure if they are rotating coverage to 85 or if Palmer just doesn’t like throwing to him. His lack of production is questionable to me. Hell I don’t remember seeing him on the field for the second half. Seemed like it was all DMo Streater and Hagan. I gotta rewatch the game and pinpoint him.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Palmer was sacked 3 times, hit 4 more and the Falcons racked up 7 TFL. This is all on Frank Pollack’s crew.
Hard to win when the other team’s front 7 is living in your backfield. It’s a testament to Palmer and the defense that the game came down to a last second FG.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Watched the game on DVR after avoiding it live. From what I saw, they were mostly sharp but had a number of critical mistakes. Had they not done that, they surely would have won. There is some hope, particularly if they can beat up on the Jags, Chiefs and Bucs, who are coming up. 4-4 is possible but don’t hold your breath.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:36 am
DHB did have a big end around play but he did drop a big one later….
Huff actually did good considering he hasn’t played corner since his Texas days. Almost came up with his second int that bounced off of him. Why did Branch after he picked off Ryan (which was caused by Phillip Wheeler pounding Ryan into the ground) run right into Atlanta guys? Anyways…defense did good, especially after DMAC made that touchdown saving tackle after Abraham caused that fumble. The D held on to only giving up a FG to tie. Moore and Hagan did their jobs…heartbreaker, but something to build on!
October 15th, 2012 at 7:36 am
We have no right to expect to hold a team for 40 seconds? BULLSCHIT excuse.
****************************
You have that right, if you think we have a better defense than the majority of the NFL.
I don’t.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:28 am
We passed on the 58 yarder, but got a 51 yarder our next possession.
So I disagree with the theory, but the outcome favors coach Allen.
————–
but when Jano hits the fg, we kick off and get the ball back couldnt that translate to more than 3 points. jano is paid for long FGs, thats his advantage. DA needs to understand that..
October 15th, 2012 at 7:38 am
And yes, when Allen challenged that completed pass, I was like…WHY??? But when they showed the replay…that was genius!
October 15th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Bcz24,
I like DHBs effort etc….but in all seriousness, we are in year 4. Its either going to happen or its not.
If coverage is rolling anywhere, its gotta be towards D. Moore as he is making all the big plays.
Carson needs “and deserves” a full compliment of weapons.
I am not a fan of the “decoy” theory…DHB was drafted where he was to produce more like AJ Green and less like a slot receiver
October 15th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:36 am
We have no right to expect to hold a team for 40 seconds? BULLSCHIT excuse.
****************************
You have that right, if you think we have a better defense than the majority of the NFL.
I don’t.
——————–
That Defense was outstanding all friking day.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Decidedly not a coincidence that the defense looked good when McClain’s role was limited and that McClain looked the best he had all season when confined to situations where he could contribute.
That should get us through the season, but he is gone with the wind come the offseason, be it by trade or simple cut.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Excuses excuses excuses, Bull-Sheet. You can’t tie the game with 40 seconds left against Matt Ryan?
We have no right to expect to hold a team for 40 seconds? BULLSCHIT excuse.
*****************************
This defense, with our make shift secondary and complete lack of pass rush, had no business competing with Matt Ryan for 60 minutes. That should have been a 30 point blow out by the Falcons. Check reality Kell. We have a defense full of complete scrubs that just held the best team in the NFL to 1 TD and 3 FG’s offensively.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Matt ryan thru 2 bad passes thats it.. too little too late.. play the youngsters
October 15th, 2012 at 7:40 am
The Prevent Defense was nonsense.
Seen that script play waaaaaaayyyyy too many times around here
October 15th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Tony Gonzalez held to 4 catches on 7 targets. I thought he was what was going to kill us above all.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Was it RoMac that caused that runner to not get in? I thought it was Huff’s initial hit? All in all, that was awesome!
October 15th, 2012 at 7:41 am
DHB has heart and is a hard worker. However, his lack of TD productivity over a 4 year period is eye opening. he struggles in the red zone and is part of our red zone issue. we need a red zone specialist to come in a catch TDs. its a big reason why we struggle.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Huff: 1 INT, 4 passes defensed. Just a blip or a sign he’s settling in?
October 15th, 2012 at 7:42 am
494.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Bcz24,
I like DHBs effort etc….but in all seriousness, we are in year 4. Its either going to happen or its not.
If coverage is rolling anywhere, its gotta be towards D. Moore as he is making all the big plays.
Carson needs “and deserves” a full compliment of weapons.
I am not a fan of the “decoy” theory…DHB was drafted where he was to produce more like AJ Green and less like a slot receiver
***********************
I don’t know what the reason is. I am not disagreeing with you. Palmer doesn’t throw DHB’s way much. Not sure of the reasoning. Like I said I have to rewatch the game a pay attention just to him to see what is really going on. I think opponents are rolling coverage to him, which is allowing DMO the 1 on 1 looks he gets.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Controlled Matt Ryan all fking day, with our Defense. But You People are going to look for Rolando McClain to blame, or some other player each and every week.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am
You know Mike Nolan was pissed when DHB made that little step move that got him past Abraham for that long run!
October 15th, 2012 at 7:44 am
And by the way…who is #49 and #71?
October 15th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Bcz24,
Its also the responsibility of the coaches to get these players in position to make plays too.
It seems that DHB has stepped back from the progress he was making last year.
Be interested to hear your take after watching the game
October 15th, 2012 at 7:46 am
507.hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:44 am
And by the way…who is #49 and #71?
++++++++++
Falcons don’t have a 49 on their roster that I can find.
71 is Kroy Biermann, a reserve DE
October 15th, 2012 at 7:46 am
507.hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:44 am
And by the way…who is #49 and #71?
***************
For who, us? According to the Raiders sight 49 is the injured Mario Kurn and 71 is Nick Mondek who is on the PS
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
i thought our defense played great except for the last 40 seconds. iMO that last 40 secs was on the coaching staff not the players. we had momemtum and just thought our coaching staff should have rewarded the defense and allowed them to play. i felt they earned the right to get beat instead of playing to lose which is what a prevent defense is.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Look People. YOU CAN’T BLAME A WR FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO SCORE FROM THE ONE YARD LINE.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
My thoughts:
1) The D stepped up: A CB-less defense held Matt Ryan down, and intercepted 3 times! Loved to see Slowlando on the sideline on 3rd downs, made a real difference.
2) The O woes go on: If you cant run you cant score. The red zone woes cost us the game.
3) Bring back the replacement refs: These guys dont call a fair game, if they called a fair game both teams would have had 10+ penalties. Pathetic.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hate it when ppl are happy and positive after a loss.. fùck that
October 15th, 2012 at 7:48 am
508.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Bcz24,
Its also the responsibility of the coaches to get these players in position to make plays too.
It seems that DHB has stepped back from the progress he was making last year.
Be interested to hear your take after watching the game
******************************
Seems to me that DHB had his snaps limited maybe because of the concussion still?
October 15th, 2012 at 7:48 am
i sincerely doubt teams are doubling dhb and leaving dmoore 1 on 1. unless chuck b is their advisor
October 15th, 2012 at 7:49 am
514.Marks hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hate it when ppl are happy and positive after a loss.. fùck that
+++++++++++++
Not happy but after the embarrassment against Denver and the fact that this team has looked beyond ridiculous coming off a bye and in the Eastern time zone for years, there’s a lot to be positive about. Particularly when you consider there’s good reason to believe the team can get back to .500
October 15th, 2012 at 7:49 am
bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:46 am
507.hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:44 am
And by the way…who is #49 and #71?
***************
For who, us? According to the Raiders sight 49 is the injured Mario Kurn and 71 is Nick Mondek who is on the PS
Right…ok…why were they called for penalties yesterday?…they were probably saying…WTF??? LOL
October 15th, 2012 at 7:49 am
506.hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am
You know Mike Nolan was pissed when DHB made that little step move that got him past Abraham for that long run!
===============================================
That was a great play be DHB and shows “what could be” if Knapp could figure out a way to get the kid the ball.
However, DHB isn’t paid to run an occassional end-around…he’s here to catch 5 or 6 catches for 90 to 100 yards a game with a TD.
What he’s producing is not cutting it
October 15th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hate it when ppl are happy and positive after a loss.. fùck that
————–
Me too. Don’t understand how you can call yourself a fan with no emotional investment.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:51 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:49 am
506.hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am
You know Mike Nolan was pissed when DHB made that little step move that got him past Abraham for that long run!
===============================================
That was a great play be DHB and shows “what could be” if Knapp could figure out a way to get the kid the ball.
However, DHB isn’t paid to run an occassional end-around…he’s here to catch 5 or 6 catches for 90 to 100 yards a game with a TD.
What he’s producing is not cutting it
——————————-
high expectations for a wr whose season high td total is 4.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:52 am
The season just ended…. any wins now only hurt our draft pos.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:53 am
lKell Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Look People. YOU CAN’T BLAME A WR FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO SCORE FROM THE ONE YARD LINE.
======================================================
True….but having a 2nd receiver would give you more opportunities to score.
The Raiders also stopped Michael Turner on 3 downs.
The Raiders offense needs more balance out there…another consistent target.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:54 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:53 am
lKell Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Look People. YOU CAN’T BLAME A WR FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO SCORE FROM THE ONE YARD LINE.
===
agreed, but imagine if you had a wr who could actually be a red zone threat. it might help
October 15th, 2012 at 7:56 am
521.nycraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:51 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:49 am
506.hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:43 am
You know Mike Nolan was pissed when DHB made that little step move that got him past Abraham for that long run!
===============================================
That was a great play be DHB and shows “what could be” if Knapp could figure out a way to get the kid the ball.
However, DHB isn’t paid to run an occassional end-around…he’s here to catch 5 or 6 catches for 90 to 100 yards a game with a TD.
What he’s producing is not cutting it
——————————-
high expectations for a wr whose season high td total is 4.
====================================================
Raider fans accept less when it comes to draft picks….we are excited over a flash here or there….yet other teams are getting productivity from their top end picks…maybe not every year…but enough to get one or two key contributors on the roster without having to trade for one when they are past their prime…
Just about every team in the league, with the exception of the Browns, are getting high productivity from at least ONE 1st or 2nd rounder from the last 3 or 4 yrs…
The Raiders only really have DMAC….and he’s more flashed glimpses and not yet a full season
October 15th, 2012 at 7:56 am
SnB, I agree, but the Raiders have had trouble scoring from the 1yd line since preseason. Sure we could upgrade DHB, and I’m no fan of his, but he didn’t lose that game yesterday.
In the final analysis that game was lost on the last drive winning FG.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:57 am
but when Jano hits the fg, we kick off and get the ball back couldnt that translate to more than 3 points. jano is paid for long FGs, thats his advantage. DA needs to understand that..
*************************************
What if he misses?
Than the drive that led to a Falcons punt could have been a FG attempt for them.
Cuts both ways. I would have kicked it, but EXACTLY what DA thought, that he would punt and play the FG game, worked.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Myers dropped that pass from the 1 yard line.
That’s on him.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:58 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Palmer was sacked 3 times, hit 4 more and the Falcons racked up 7 TFL. This is all on Frank Pollack’s crew.
Hard to win when the other team’s front 7 is living in your backfield. It’s a testament to Palmer and the defense that the game came down to a last second FG.
>>>>>
That’s also on Knapp for not calling more plays to give Palmer more time, especially when he did call a screen or a bootleg, it WORKED!
I’ve never in my life seen a coordinator that hated calling screen plays as much as Knapp. I don’t think he has a clue that it keeps defenses HONEST. That they can’t simply go hog wild into the pocket because they might get burned with a screen. It killed us against Denver.
And anyone else notice that the only time we saw the no-huddle is when we fell behind, and it quickly produced 7 points in a minute in a half? It actually worked TOO efficiently because it left time on the clock.
Maybe that’s why Knapp refuses to let Carson run the no-huddle?
He thinks it’s a bad thing to score points quickly. He wants to wear the defense down. shrug?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:01 am
520.KoolKell Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I hate it when ppl are happy and positive after a loss.. fùck that
————–
Me too. Don’t understand how you can call yourself a fan with no emotional investment.
**********************************
I dont think anyone feels good about the loss. It was a heartbreaker, no question. I will only speak for myself when I say I feel ‘less bad’ about that loss than say losing by 35 only because the opponent let off the gas. Or when we lose to team we should beat. Maybe you don’t have the capacity for a range of emotion, but I do.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 7:57 am
but when Jano hits the fg, we kick off and get the ball back couldnt that translate to more than 3 points. jano is paid for long FGs, thats his advantage. DA needs to understand that..
*************************************
What if he misses?
Than the drive that led to a Falcons punt could have been a FG attempt for them.
Cuts both ways. I would have kicked it, but EXACTLY what DA thought, that he would punt and play the FG game, worked.
————
Jano from 58 is like every other kicker from 45. if you dont have that mindset, then cut him save the money and bring in a kicker where it makes sense to punt instead of a 58 yd fg attempt
October 15th, 2012 at 8:04 am
We ran one screen to Ausberry on 3rd and long early in the game, and that nearly got Palmer killed.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:06 am
What’s Jano’s career % on 58 yarders? I doubt it is even 50%.
Not going to burn the coach for not trying it in the first quarter.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Looks like the biggest loss in the pre-season was Wylie and Wiz 1.0. Frank Pollack is horrible. Why would DA get rid of one of the leagues best Oline coaches for that guy?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:06 am
What’s Jano’s career % on 58 yarders? I doubt it is even 50%.
Not going to burn the coach for not trying it in the first quarter.
——————-
last year 7-10 from 50+ , this year 2 for 2..ill take those odds anyday..
October 15th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Those aren’t all 58 yarders.
Hey, like I said, I would have tried it.
But it didn’t backfire not going for it, we played the field position game, and got A CLOSER FG on our next drive.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:13 am
JFB all you do is make excuses for this pathetic coaching staff. Its pathetic.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:16 am
JFB, on a side note:
There a lot of fine women here. Tall & Trim and fashionable. Nobody is fat here. All colors too. When I first came here in the 80’s it was all Swiss white people. In the 90’s a lot of Africans came in with political asylum, but they weren’t integrated into society.
Now, wow, all kinds here marrying having kids etc. Looks a lot like the USA now diversity wise.
Back to regular broadcasting.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Raiders left too much time on the clock. But, you can’t take any chances there. Raiders needed a TD, and those don’t come easy for this offense.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Exactly.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Those aren’t all 58 yarders.
Hey, like I said, I would have tried it.
But it didn’t backfire not going for it, we played the field position game, and got A CLOSER FG on our next drive.
—————————
LOL.. ok some might have been a 52 yrd fg..that makes such a big difference for Jano. . Why are you assuming we wouldnt have scored again if Jano kicked the FG? ..bottom line the coaching staff did a good job, but tarver not showing confidence in a defense that played great by going prevent on that last drive and DA not having confidence in Jano hurt us. Ill let you decide if it cost us the game, but when you lose by 3 points its the little things that make a difference.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:06 am
What’s Jano’s career % on 58 yarders? I doubt it is even 50%.
Not going to burn the coach for not trying it in the first quarter.
—————————————–
In the last two years SeaBass is 9 for 12 from 50+ yards. And in pregame his was kicking from 65 yards out. It was a judgement call on DA’s part. But on a day when your defense is shutting down Matt Ryan and the Falcons kicker broke his own record for longest FG, I’ll burn him for the wrong decision. If he wants to prove me wrong start winning games. No more moral victories.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Oh Cork,
The Raiders were called for the kind of penalties today that are committed on every play in this league. The old refs are back and the conspiracy is alive
–
Agree, Goodell and the Refs hate us..That game ripped out my heart man, i dont even wana live right now man…:(…oh yeah..where is that joker AMYINCHARGE, his 49ers looked real good!!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:26 am
I dont see why ppl are happy today.. atl mailed it in. They looked right past us to the bye week.. and matt ryan thru 2 bad passes to keep us in the game.. thats it… wake up.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Omg,..I pop on in here and the ones I clearly possess, a day later, still cant get me out of their minds!!…Jimmy,..you dont wantto live?…because the Faiders lost again?…dude stop embarrassing yourself with that talk,..what, are you twelve years old?….you win for biggest loser in this blog. Jimmy, just try and not think about me or the Niners,..just try.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Jimmy, dont let 1-4 destroy you, make you not want to live. I mean, Niner fans are 4-2 today, still in first place,..they arent trippin,..maybe you should stop supporting the Raiders if losing makes you not want to live…time for you to take a break from Raider football dude, because 1-4 in a couple months will be 2-14.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:33 am
we looked like a pro football team for the first time all year. get the run game working, a receiver that can get in the enzone spencer back and we can compete with the best of them
October 15th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I dont see why ppl are happy today..
***********************************
I don’t see why people are upset this morning, actually.
2012 is just the same as 80% of the last 30 years. For us, losing a close road game is about as good as a win.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:33 am
why do we always seem flat offensively after halftime
October 15th, 2012 at 8:34 am
1-4 time to put Pryor in to tank the season and get a top 3 pick.
Trade Palmer to a team like the Cards who need a vet QB.
Trade McFadden to a team that isn’t playing with a schyyyt ZBS.
Trade Seymour to any team that would give us a 7th round pick and a bag of McDonald’s cheeseburgers.
Drop Knapp 150 miles offshore and tell him if he can swim back on his own he can keep his job as OC.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Inoneword,..all you will be competing for is the number one overall pick in next years draft,..but the good news is you will win that competition!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Hey Bob-O,
Raiders 4 point favorites this weekend, so much for your claim we wouldn’t be favored in any game this season.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
JUST MAKE IT CLOSE, BABY…..The new Raiders.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
547. Wow… thats a sad attitude
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Marks hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:26 am
I dont see why ppl are happy today.. atl mailed it in. They looked right past us to the bye week.. and matt ryan thru 2 bad passes to keep us in the game.. thats it… wake up.
=======================
What game were you tuned into? I saw a much improved Raider team compete with a 5-0 team. Try being a bit more positive.
Go Raiders!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
would anyone trade palmer for vick?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:36 am
4 points????…favored????????????????????…easiest money for football gamblers is this Sunday then,…nobody will lay 4.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am
We shìt the bed.. season over
October 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am
547. Wow… thats a sad attitude
*************************
It is a realistic attitude, taught to me by being a Raider fan for 30 years.
Until we actually win these type of games, and have it parlay into a winning streak and a playoff push, that’s my attitude.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am
nycraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
would anyone trade palmer for vick?
______________________
Mistic. I heard somewhere CP is on track for the most yards in his career, was top 5 in qb rating yesterday
October 15th, 2012 at 8:38 am
would anyone trade palmer for vick?
****************************
No.
I would trade Palmer for Nick Foles though!!!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:39 am
This is the same nonsense i heard after pitsburg… them playing a bad game does not make us a good team.. wakey wakey
October 15th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
547. Wow… thats a sad attitude
————-
There a lot of people in here with agendas other than the Raiders.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:39 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:30 am
you win for biggest loser in this blog.
=====================================
Actually someone whose Whiner team just got completely rolled on their own turf, whose Giant baseball team got completely rolled on their own turf yet still comes on an internet site to talk smack to Raider fan because he has nowhere else to go? THAT is the definition of loser right there.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Seymour,..last time I saw you you were celebrating the Giants being swept by the Reds,…LMAO.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:41 am
I’m not impressed with this coaching staff. I think we should hire a different OC and a DC with more experience. Hoffman needs to go too!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:42 am
If Hue Jackson lost that game yesterday, the same people making excuses, would be looking for a rope. I wonder why? Nevermind.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Marks hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:39 am
This is the same nonsense i heard after pitsburg… them playing a bad game does not make us a good team.. wakey wakey
______________
you can’t stand it that others aren’t depressed/upset like you are, would that make you feel better?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Those aren’t all 58 yarders.
Hey, like I said, I would have tried it.
But it didn’t backfire not going for it, we played the field position game, and got A CLOSER FG on our next drive.
=========================================
They were playing the field position game which was the right decision. Going into prevent with 40 seconds left? That’s what cost the game.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Looks like old fool kell survived his night of alcohol and Ambien abuse. Bummer. Looks like he will live to work again sweeping up at the bus station.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Seymour,..the sports section today has the Niners in first place,..and unless theres a misprint they have Oakland as 1-4…wow,..ugly number.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I dont see why ppl are happy today..
***********************************
I don’t see why people are upset this morning, actually.
2012 is just the same as 80% of the last 30 years. For us, losing a close road game is about as good as a win.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hmmm…… Maybe because our team finished 7
8-8 the last 2 years with 2 different coaching staffs, and people expected more this year. 1-4?!?!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:45 am
thats all tarver runs…prevent defense (zone is just the same krapp but smaller areas…)
October 15th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Doesn’t matter if we go 8-8, 5-11, or what have you.
This is another season, where it was painfully obvious by about the first half of week 1, that we aren’t threats to make a Lombardi run, and probably not much of a threat to make a run at the division title.
I will be encouraged with morale victories and the team competing in a tough road situation, until those type of expectations are too high.
As of now, they aren’t.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:46 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Seymour,..the sports section today has the Niners in first place,..and unless theres a misprint they have Oakland as 1-4…wow,..ugly number.
________________
this guy leaves the blog and tells his buddy “man i was on the raider blog today and just talking so much smack to them” and they’re thinking in their heads really that’s what you do with your time? If only they knew how often you were on here. Unfortunately you can’t go home and tell your wife that, can’t imagine you can be married
October 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Well yes Im married, some in this blog have met her. Try harder inoneword, thats strike one.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:49 am
i love bloggers who predict the raiders will lose by 30, then they actually lose by 3, and these same bloggers piss on anyone who gives the raiders any hope. i was very angry when they lost, threw the remote, still am upset at tarver for playing prevent, DA for not kicing the fg, and while admire CP3 for being tough, being a leader, having good stats, still question if he is a QB who can Win. However, before the season started as i did my own predictions I had the raiders 4-4 after 8 games. If they get there ,our season is back on. if they dont then its time to find out about Pryor. But dont predict our team to lose by 30 and come in here and look down on those who see some good in a tough road loss.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Never met her but B talks about her…so yes he is married!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Yo Vegas up in in Tahoe we get 13-1 for 4-spot parlay cards,..what they give you in Vegas for a 4 spot? By the way I hit one every sunday, as I did yesterday. Just missed a 5 spot, 23-1 odds up here.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Well yes Im married,
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
That’s funny!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Ya Briens met her several times,..so has The C,.I think so anyway,..Mista has too a couple years ago. BFD anyway, arent all of you guys married?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:53 am
However thats all you get,..I am not like that old man kell,..where he cant give you guys enough info so where all the stalkers here know where he works, lives, old ladys facebook page. Sad old fool.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Amy were you the guy that stabbed the fan at the Whiner game yesterday? The fan that was trying to stab the girl and got her boyfriend instead?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I hear ya…it doesn’t matter who is married or not…
October 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Was Tony Bergstrom suited up yesterday? He is a 26 years old rookie that cant get on the field when our RG goes out with an injury, and our LG is 36 years old.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Alright Im off to Mont Bleu,…cash in on my 4 spot parlay card from yesterday…ciao. And when the cards come out wednesday you better believe I will take the Jags plus 4,..easy friggin money!!!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 5:40 am
I know I am in the minority, but I am feel pretty good about this squad.
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
You and me both. I dont remember when I felt so “good” about a loss. I am putting it on the DA.
He will be a fantastic coach and if Knapps schemes will not work the DA will toss him overboard.
Early game back east after a bye against a dam good club and we should have won that game.
I am very pleased with the direction the club is headed. And I am backing the DA and Reg 100%
October 15th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Never met her but B talks about her…so yes he is married!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Mentally disabled and married?
Good for you retard!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Seymour, try research you loser, it was a dude in a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt that got shanked.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Our defense played better with Rolando out of the nickel package, much better with Wheeler and Burris out there.
Dis anyone here see if Rolando still had the green dot on his helmet?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider O Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Never met her but B talks about her…so yes he is married!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Mentally disabled and married?
Good for you retard!
Whoa…me?
October 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Hah Hawaiin bro, he was referring to me, Im the retard.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Im the retard with the big house in South Shore Tahoe and the cool pad in Kaanapali.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:00 am
LOL…still…I had to do a double take! Are you tailgating this Sunday?
October 15th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Hwnrdr,
LOL
I was talking to the pill popper.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Next year I am hoping to rid myself of my obligation and hey…Ka’anapali it is! Been awhile! Depending on parents health of course!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Ya dude we will all be there,..unsure A or D lot,..will know later in week.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:02 am
O, you still in the states or did you get back overseas?
October 15th, 2012 at 9:02 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Ya dude we will all be there,..unsure A or D lot,..will know later in week.
Ok, I’ll get a hold of Brien when i get there!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Try and get there in January bro,..we will be there the entire month,…be in that Hyatt cave alot,..also at Moose`s in La Haina…hook up with us man! We have a bud who runs snorklers out to Molokini twice a day,..so come out with us.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Im the retard with the big house in South Shore Tahoe and the cool pad in Kaanapali.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They let you own property too?
I love this country.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Bob
Blog rules say you have to post your picks before the game, not after in order to get credit for a 4 teamer
Every week? You must have hundreds of BFF’s
October 15th, 2012 at 9:06 am
I played 4 parlay cards yesterday won one of them. 50 bucks each, so 200 in, won a card that paid 780,..no big scaore,..wanted that 5 spot at 23-1…Cards let me down.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:02 am
O, you still in the states or did you get back overseas?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Still here bro. I’m still thinking about it. It’s a big decision. Weather, culture, etc…
October 15th, 2012 at 9:18 am
JaCarson Palmer is having the best year EVER ! His stats are INSANE ! Best QB witha 1-4 RECORD !
October 15th, 2012 at 9:21 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Try and get there in January bro,..we will be there the entire month,…be in that Hyatt cave alot,..also at Moose`s in La Haina…hook up with us man! We have a bud who runs snorklers out to Molokini twice a day,..so come out with us.
Working on it…when i was back home 2 weeks ago, the subject has come up of actually moving back. Can’t leave right now, but I am working on it being able to leave Cali at will without moving back…for now!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Raider O Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:02 am
O, you still in the states or did you get back overseas?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Still here bro. I’m still thinking about it. It’s a big decision. Weather, culture, etc…
I hear ya…weigh out everything!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Props to the CB-less D, really, keeping that passing offense in check was mighty…sad to say the O cant run the ball for their lives, the O play calling near the goal line will cost DA and McGinger their jobs.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Don’t blame JaCarson for LOSING that game ! It’s the prevent defense that messsed up ! Those 2 turnovers were NOT his fault ! Its nevEr A ELITES qb FAULT even if he throws a pick six that screws over his team !
October 15th, 2012 at 9:27 am
The season’s over? Really? When the Raiders will be .500 in the next 3 weeks & poised to make a 2nd half run?
Settle down, folks.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:31 am
My problem is steve not noticing Parsons in the game after watching lil Wiz get slapped backwards several times by Atlanta’s Tackles!Give Prior the protection they gave Palmer at the end and he will torch the NFL! Who would they cover if he is in the Shotgun? I like the wide outs development at this point! OG went down and no mention the O-line was patch work in a pinch that worked!I am excited now to see our team develope! You are right we have our present and future QB’s On the Roster right now! We will be in very good shape after the draft and seeing what Curry has left! Huff did a great job! Palmers pass was I hope a lesson to get him back being mentioned as a Franchise QB! He atleast acknowleged It and that I hope was His turning point this year!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Hwnrdr,
I have not forgot about you or the Email. It’s even harder for you, and most countries in that area are not a good fit for you IMHO. Saudi and most countries in that area will not work for you, Jordan and surrounding areas are better but they don’t pay as much, and I think UAE (Dubai) is your only option.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Kept hearing about Dubai, but isn’t Dubai also dangerous?
October 15th, 2012 at 9:35 am
With the exception of 12 penalties & 3 turnovers I saw huge improvements yesterday. Run defense was best in two years. The one area where they were manhandled was the OLine. They will need to step up starting Sunday. This team needs to learn how to win & the next three games should all be wins & with Baltimore losing guys right & left who knows. I thought the season was over after the debacle in Denver, but yesterday showed they got a lot of heart. Get on a roll starting with Jax, get some guys back from injuries and you never know.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:38 am
4-4, 4-4, 4-4, we can get to 4-4!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:39 am
2 Questions for you guys:
1. Who do we want to win tonight/Who needs to win tonight?
2. How in the world did Hue Jackson ever let Hagan go?!?!? I’m still baffled by that. WTF?!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:40 am
To keep the division close, Denver needs to win tonight…but that is always a hard choice!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Did anybody else see D.A tell Tarver right before Atlanta got the ball back for their final drive “I don’t care about the underneath stuff..”
Im pretty sure I read his lips right. He said something to Tarver that I couldn’t make out and then he said “I don’t care about the underneath stuff..”
So blame what you want on Tarver, but his instructions came from the Top..
Look, I hate the Prevent just as much as the next guy, but the truth is that they had to kick a 55 yarder to win the game (should have called unsportsmanlike on the ‘practice’ kick though)–And lord only knows what would have happened in O.T..
If a DB had gotten roasted for a 49 yard gain, you guys would be going NUTS over that too. You can’t have it both ways. It wasn’t a traditional “Prevent”..they were taking underneath routes..what else are they supposed to do?
Did you notice that our D-Line when we were rushing three were barely getting in a 3 point stance? And not putting up ANY sort of fight to get to Ryan? Watch that final drive again and check out our front 3..pretty pathetic effort really.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I really hope JaCarson Russell gets a a extension ! Finally the Raiders have a Franchise QB ! All he does is WIN WIN WIN no matter what !
October 15th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Hwnrdr,
Most people in Dubai are foreigners (70% sometimes), and they all speak English. Safe for Americans and Europeans. Safer than Jordan.
Saudi is dangerous.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:44 am
This lose is every bodys FAULT except JaCarson Palmer !Blame the refs, oline , dline , punter, kicker , waterboy , but it is NOT JaCarsons FAULT !
October 15th, 2012 at 9:44 am
El Tato Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Was Tony Bergstrom suited up yesterday? He is a 26 years old rookie that cant get on the field when our RG goes out with an injury, and our LG is 36 years old.
=============================================
He was active yesterday, but was backing up at tackle.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Raider O Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Hwnrdr,
Most people in Dubai are foreigners (70% sometimes), and they all speak English. Safe for Americans and Europeans. Safer than Jordan.
Saudi is dangerous.
Gotcha…may be moving back home in a year or two…still up in the air!
October 15th, 2012 at 9:46 am
615..been asking myself that all morning… I despise both teams so it really doesn’t matter at this point… As for the Raiders it’s just one game at a time… Just need to win ours and not worry about anyone else ..
October 15th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Chargers 45 Broncos 9
October 15th, 2012 at 9:48 am
No USC QB has ever won a super bowl. Only Sanchez has won more than one playoff game & he is worse than JaCarson. The last really decent NFL QB from USC……..Vince Evans
October 15th, 2012 at 9:50 am
No USC QB has ever won a super bowl. Only Sanchez has won more than one playoff game & he is worse than JaCarson. The last really decent NFL QB from USC……..Vince Evans
——————————–
What about BOOTY ???
October 15th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I hope Broncos win and Manning gets injured.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Wishbone Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:48 am
No USC QB has ever won a super bowl. Only Sanchez has won more than one playoff game & he is worse than JaCarson. The last really decent NFL QB from USC……..Vince Evans
—-
Rob Johnson won Super Bowl ring with Tampa Bay. He was backup QB.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Raiders just need to take care of Raider business…. Donks and Chokers will take care of they’re own biz …..
October 15th, 2012 at 9:55 am
(should have called unsportsmanlike on the ‘practice’ kick though)
——-
If that penalty is thrown, we win. Seabass with a record breaking FG.
Just the same, we had them where we wanted and let them off the hook. Our D had been stifling them all game and only allowed 10 points (the other 10 a result of turnovers). Why not go with what’s working? Why let them chunk off yardage to get into FG range? I don’t get it. Go with what’s working and if they best you, you can go to sleep knowing you put it all out there. Don’t like giving them a free kick there.
On a positive note, good to get a game like this out of the way so DA can learn from it and make better decisions when more is on the line.
And I know a loss is a loss, but no one expected the Raiders to hang with this team, and not only did they do so, but if they put up anywhere close to a complete game, we beat them by 14. So many missed opportunities up and down the lineup. Even guys that are normally money, like Meyers, missing some opportunities.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:56 am
IMO Barkley not only should not be drafted by the Raiders under any circumstance, but he isn’t even the best QB in the Pac-12. I’d like to see them take Mante Ta’o.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I just rewatched the last drive. I don’t know what you guys are talking about this prevent defense. Heres the list of the final sequence:
1. Dump off to J Rodgers 8 yards, out of bounds 34 seconds
2. Dump off to J Rodgers 9 yards, out of bounds 26 seconds
3. Dump off to H Douglas 4 yards, out of bounds 23 seconds
4. We blitzed M Burris, incomplete to Tony G 18 seconds
5. Short sideline throw to Tony G 9 yards 12 seconds
6. Tony G seam 14 yards 6 seconds Time out.
7. FG
I didn’t see us running the quote ‘prevent’ defense. We were covering their WRs down the field and Ryan was taking the short check downs to. The #1 problem I saw on that final drive was our defenders allowing their guys to take those short checkdowns and get out of bounds. If we had prevented them from getting out of bounds just 1 play we hold for OT.
Romac was not on the field for 1 play in that final sequence. Seems our coaches have all but given up on 55. Begs the question, if Romac was playing situationally only yesterday, who was calling the defense?
October 15th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Banana…. Yep..agree…. Gotta start winning those types of games…. Still not there…
October 15th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Klas–TY but I meant starting QB. Rob Johnson was even worse then Booty. I think Mike Rae may have won one with us in ‘76 if anyone can confirm.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:59 am
I saw Rolando McBosworth in during obvious running plays. Coaches realize he can’t cover guys like Gonzalez and Turner.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:01 am
The holding call on Reese during the early drive where we were moving well was killer. We were building some momentum there and they couldn’t stop it. Huge flag. Crap like that will keep you from being successful. This is the NFL. You can’t give any opponent second chances. You execute it right the first time.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Klas don’t know if all the penalties were a result of players being beat by superior talent or refs felt screwing us. Probably both.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:07 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Well yes Im married, some in this blog have met her. Try harder inoneword, thats strike one.
=====
Is she skank?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:09 am
AmysInCharge Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Well yes Im married, some in this blog have met her. Try harder inoneword, thats strike one.
——————————
So your a LESBO ???
October 15th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Klas don’t know if all the penalties were a result of players being beat by superior talent or refs felt screwing us. Probably both.
——-
A little of both, Klas. The supposed neutral zone infraction is a good example. Their guy flinched, should have been a false start. Refs look closer at our guys. That’s a fact. Hopefully DA can change it. Only way to do so is play flawless ball and prove that you’re disciplined.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Can you imagine the #*$@#&! the replacement refs would have gotten if they were calling numerous penalities on “phantom players.” Just saying…
October 15th, 2012 at 10:11 am
@The Big Banana
Yeah the guard moved…B.S.!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:13 am
little of both, Klas. The supposed neutral zone infraction is a good example. Their guy flinched, should have been a false start.
*****************
Nah I don’t know man, Shaunessy left early, and it made Gonzo move. That wasn’t a bad call.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Klas thought Atlanta guy moves first, #77.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Can you imagine the #*$@#&! the replacement refs would have gotten if they were calling numerous penalities on “phantom players.” Just saying…
—-
Isn’t that something? Yet it’s ok when the regulars do it. SMH
An NFL ref once said they can call holding on every play if they wanted. What was the majority of the calls yesterday? Maybe they were valid, I don’t know. They only replayed a couple of them.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:15 am
643.bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:13 am
little of both, Klas. The supposed neutral zone infraction is a good example. Their guy flinched, should have been a false start.
*****************
Nah I don’t know man, Shaunessy left early, and it made Gonzo move. That wasn’t a bad call.
_________________________________________________
I thought the replay showed the guard move forward?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:15 am
#644
That is correct.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Worse thing about yesterday is that Raiders lose and Klas fantasy team gets hurt because he had Falcon players. If gonna lose, Klas wants Julio Jones to score 3 TDs. Oh well. Klas guess that’s why they call it the blues.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Not Shaughnessy, it was Tolefson who left early…
October 15th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Watch it again, Bcz. One thing I will agree on, is it was difficult to tell in real time, but these are the regular refs. They are supposed to be so good.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Despite all the negativity I’ve read here on yesterday’s game, I was pretty impressed our boys gave the dirty birds a run for their money.
Whoever called the pass play that ended up a pick-6, should be shot!! Little over 2 mins left, RUN THE DAMN BALL, RUN THE CLOCK DOWN, KICK A FIELD GOAL, PLAY SOME DEFENSE AND WIN THE F-ING GAME!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Here is video of 49er fans fighting. I think Amy is in there somewhere:
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/15/49ers-fans-and-giants-fans-brawled-outside-candlestick-video/
October 15th, 2012 at 10:20 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:21 am
“We had a great game plan, and I let the team down, I let the fans down.” Palmer said. “Making the mistake I made was crucial. It’s my fault.”
Palmer is good guy. Much rather have him than Cam Newton.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Doesn’t matter since it didn’t affect the outcome, but a good example of the bias. They were looking closer at the white jerseys. Again, not saying they target us specifically, I just think they look at us closer. When in doubt rule against the patch.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:23 am
what a sh1tty weekend….first the Os lose… than the Nats lose a heart breaker.. then the Raiders come sooo close and lose…. no fu*kin wonder i am still hung-over !!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:21 am
“We had a great game plan, and I let the team down, I let the fans down.” Palmer said. “Making the mistake I made was crucial. It’s my fault.”
Palmer is good guy. Much rather have him than Cam Newton.
—
That’s a leader there. Crucial mistake, but good to see him say this. Jamayo would have said ‘they’re guys are paid too’
October 15th, 2012 at 10:23 am
646.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:15 am
643.bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:13 am
little of both, Klas. The supposed neutral zone infraction is a good example. Their guy flinched, should have been a false start.
*****************
Nah I don’t know man, Shaunessy left early, and it made Gonzo move. That wasn’t a bad call.
_________________________________________________
I thought the replay showed the guard move forward?
**********
I was streaming the game yesterday, my brother was out of town so he was logged into the Sunday Ticket app so I had to stream it from a site and it was pretty crappy quality. When I watch the replay it will be HD, I will analyze all of our penalties and give my honest opinion.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:24 am
These are so funny. Fake NFL QB facebook posts:
http://fauxjohnmadden.lockerdome.com/articles/101518850
October 15th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Here is video of 49er fans fighting. I think Amy is in there somewhere:
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/15/49ers-fans-and-giants-fans-brawled-outside-candlestick-video/
——
Niner fan showing their true colors. Yet we’re the dirty ones? SMH
October 15th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Tp time.. try out criner and bergs too… seasons over
October 15th, 2012 at 10:31 am
If we can get to 4-4, well be fine. AFC West and AFC in general not very strong. Just need to keep improving and finish the season hot. Work out all the kinks now.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:32 am
OVER!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:33 am
This team doesnt win 3 in a row guys.. wake up
October 15th, 2012 at 10:34 am
The ZBS doesn’t work with McFadden.
The prevent defense NEVER works.
And bunching everyone together and trying to run thru them on the goal line is stupid. Always has been. Spread the field if you want to run up the middle. And FOR GOD’S SAKE find yourself a big third down back. Zack Crockett where are you when we need you?
How f’ing stupid is Dennis Allen that he does not know this?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:35 am
We shìt ourselves 4 games out of 5.. time for some tp
October 15th, 2012 at 10:36 am
It is obvious now the only way this team can win is if the defense plays like yesterday. When AC and the corners come back I can see a real possibility this team competing for this division.
Palmer needs to sack up for that to happen, he consistently finds ways to screw things up. He might not be the problem, but definitely not capable of carrying a team on his back.
Once again, Dmac is not getting it done. Goodson now averaging 8.1 ypc to Dmac’s 3.2. This is not the same player from last year but maybe he gets his legs back by mid season who knows.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Marks hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:35 am
We shìt ourselves 4 games out of 5.. time for some tp
++++++++++
I see what you did there…
October 15th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Season over.. tell us about draft prospects
October 15th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Great fight from both my teams over the weekend.
No team would of beaten Verlander w/ the help he was getting from the ump.
Still proud of the A’s! Thanks for a great season.
The Raiders finally came to play yesterday. Great effort fellas.
Stay away from the prevent please! The D was getting pressure most of the game. why switch it up?
Hate to say this but….
Get healthy false start Barnes. We need you!
4-4 is not out of the question.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Hwnrdr,
I’m in the same position. Not sure about my next move, but I have to make a decision by the end of the year. I miss the food bro.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Time to sign Wheeler to a long term deal Reggie!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:42 am
The D looked so much better w/ out Rolando McJogger out there.
Real talk!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:42 am
We’re a good teamif we can hold Matt Ryan to just that
many yards with back up CB’s then holy sh1t ,teams are going to have hard time passing against us,when our regular CB’s come back
October 15th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Can I finally say, nice game plan DA?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Go Raiders!!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:45 am
We had em n we let them off the hook ,also Refs had how many first downs called back? 5 ? 6?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:48 am
mcfadden20. Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:45 am
We had em n we let them off the hook ,also Refs had how many first downs called back? 5 ? 6?
===========
Told u guys we were better off w/ the replacement refs for our games.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Wow…the Ravens lost Webb, Lewis and maybe Ngata.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Lewis and Ngata?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Whiner fans are pretty silent 2day.
I fk’n luv it.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:52 am
618.Super Charged Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I really hope JaCarson Russell gets a a extension ! Finally the Raiders have a Franchise QB ! All he does is WIN WIN WIN no matter what !
—
Check his record against the Chargers fart face.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Waddup Nation Rack ‘em
Over-reaction theater wasn’t as bad as it usually is off a loss in here from what I’ve scanned thru and read. Boys showed a lot of fight yesterday. That pick six (partially Carson’s fault, and partially Allen’s overaggressive playcalling once in field goal range) stung badly, but glad to see Carson take some accountability for it and blame the loss on himself; regardless if he’s right or wrong…he’s yet to do that and always quick to throw the “we” card out there his entire career and was one of the biggest things I hated about him. So glad to see he took a big step in the mental department. As for the D, what a difference a pass rush makes…though Carter didn’t get to get him a sack, his constant edge pressure at least forced Ryan to step up uncomfortably a ton of times. Corners played admirably considering they’re 3rd and 4th string corners, and Wheeler played his tail off (would’ve like to see him use more instincts and break that last pass to Gonzo up though that set ‘em up for the field goal), but it is what it is. Tough field goal, and they nailed it. 4-4 isn’t out of the question. Glad to see D.Moore bounced back, and hope he’s alright for next week. Why on Earth didn’t we run that DHB end around again, or at least run some fake stretches off of it? We could’ve milked that on their over aggressive asses all day! Anyhow, hope to see better next week in a much needed home victory. CANNOT lose to the Jags at home to go 1-5. If so, the TP show might need to start earlier than expected…there’s nothing wrong with a matinee
October 15th, 2012 at 10:53 am
We will win the next 3 go raiders
October 15th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Oooff! That was a tough one.
Hey, at least it seems like DA, crappy Knappy and Tarver actually had a legit game plan in this game.
Can they do that in week to week basis instead of every two weeks?
Doubt it.
D allowed waaay to much sideline cushion at the end of the game to allow Falcons to kick the FG and Samuel just made a great play on Palmers throw.
It also seems like DA and Knapp ran way more power run plays with pulling guards and some trap plays ahead of zone. That was nice to see.
Knapp finally called an effective screen at the right time with blockers in front of Goodson.
They need to call those more, because the opposing defenses are not expecting Knapp ti run effective screens.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:53 am
680.DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Lewis and Ngata?
_____________________________________________________
Ray Lewis=Torn Triceps
Ngata=sprained MCL injury, extent unknown…
October 15th, 2012 at 10:54 am
If Raiders don’t win at least 2 out of the next 3 games, I wouldn’t mind seeing what Pryor can do. The season will over at that point anyways.
F**k that! Need 3 victories or get the f**k out of town! DMac should be used for certain power run plays, not every f**kin run play! Goodson has potential and WTF is up with not using T. Jones, Reece, Ausberry more? That prevent defense screwed us on ATL last drive. Gotta win 9 of the last 11 to have any chance…Man up, we can do it!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:54 am
The play call on Palmers pick six, was just to over aggressive. They could have gone to Myers or look for Reece.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Whiner fans are pretty silent 2day.
I fk’n luv it.
——–
They’re who we thought they were
October 15th, 2012 at 10:57 am
That was really a bad call on Palmers int.. D’s are looking to make a play at that time of the game ..just a horrible play call and a horrible read from Palmer
October 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am
No matter what happens the rest of this season, the single most important stat this year is that we beat the F-in Stealers!! (yeah, I meant to spell it that way, ref. Immaculate DE-ception!!)
You boys on the west coast cant fully appreciate how F-in SWEET that was until youre surrounded by their sh!t-talking A$$hole fans 24-7…
All in all, I think things are looking upward for mighty Silver & Black… Give us a full draft and a little money to play with in free agency next year and we are contenders!!
October 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Check his record against the Chargers fart face.
———————————
yeah didn’t he lose his last 2 games against the Chargers? He lost last years game for a spot in the PLAYOFFS if I remember correctly ! JaCarson strikes again !
October 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am
688 – yea, definitely didn’t like the play-call right there, but CP also has to know he can’t make that throw if it’s not there; especially with the ultra-aggressive Asante over there just dying to always jump in front of a comeback/hitch.
October 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:20 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
******************************
OK… well then fuk you guys !!!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The play call on Palmers pick six, was just to over aggressive. They could have gone to Myers or look for Reece.
==================================
A Elite Qb’s throws that ball AWAY ! Keep making excuses for JaCarson .Play calling , defense , WATERBOY , all their fault except for JaCarson
October 15th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Who will be the Raiders top 4 pick, if they choose to keep the pick?
I would think QB Geno Smith, OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, MLB Mani Te’o, NT/DT Star Lotulelei, NT/DT Jonathan Hankins
I’m not a big fan of the LSU D-Linemen. It seems LSU Linemen just burnout by the time they get to the NFL.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:03 am
The play call on Palmers pick six, was just to over aggressive. They could have gone to Myers or look for Reece
——————————
As I said earlier: RUN THE DAMN BALL, RUN THE CLOCK DOWN, KICK A FG IF YOU CANT GET SIX, PLAY D AND WIN THE GAME!!! Its not rocket science folks… Whoever called that pass play should be on the unemployment line today!!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Who will be the Raiders top 4 pick, if they choose to keep the pick?
=================================
Don’t draft a QB . Raiders already have a FRanchise ELITE QB in JaCarson Palmer ! Raiders need defense !
October 15th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Here is video of 49er fans fighting. I think Amy is in there somewhere:
========================================
Amy is the 250 lb dude shanking the 105 lb female.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Super Charged Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The play call on Palmers pick six, was just to over aggressive. They could have gone to Myers or look for Reece.
==================================
A Elite Qb’s throws that ball AWAY ! Keep making excuses for JaCarson .Play calling , defense , WATERBOY , all their fault except for JaCarson
^^^^^^^
I’m not making excuses for Palmer. He made the throw…if anything…it was just a helluva play by Samuel.
Samuel just decided to jump the route and he guessed right.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:05 am
mcfadden20. Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Whiner fans are pretty silent 2day.
I fk’n luv it.
——–
They’re who we thought they were
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Raiders first, SF second: I grew up following both teams. I was on and off this blog after 4 pm yesterday. I didn’t talk about SF because it’s a Raiders’ blog. But, know this, I am a “whiners” fan too. If we had their staff, their scheme, and players comparable in talent, we would have beat the Falcons 41 to 20 yesterday.
So don’t think I am silent because my head is bowed since SF lost to NYG’s, it’s just that we talk Raiders here and not SF.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I hear ya O! I miss my local food as well! But…being on an island compared tobeing able to jump in a car and just drive for hours…family back home…tough decision!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Super Charged Should Say:
Those same Falcons completely blew out my dischargers a few weeks back. I have no hope.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Michael Bush only has 50 yards more from scrimmage than Goodson does this season.
About 10 yards a game.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:03 am
The play call on Palmers pick six, was just to over aggressive. They could have gone to Myers or look for Reece
——————————
As I said earlier: RUN THE DAMN BALL, RUN THE CLOCK DOWN, KICK A FG IF YOU CANT GET SIX, PLAY D AND WIN THE GAME!!! Its not rocket science folks… Whoever called that pass play should be on the unemployment line today!!
^^^^^^^^
I agree. They should have just ran the ball in that situation. I was surprised they passed.
DA and Knapp screwed up on that one. The idiots are conservative when they shouldn’t be and over aggressive when they should not be. Can’t get it right.
A rookie head coach and lousy retread offensive coordinator is just a bad mix.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Who will be the Raiders top 4 pick, if they choose to keep the pick?
************************
LOL at top 4 pick.
This team wins no less than 6 games this year, and will draft in the 13-17 range, again.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:08 am
It was nice seeing the Whiners get pounded and stomped by the defensing Super Bowl Champs!
Niners just can’t compete with them!
Harbaugh needed a whoopin like that!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:09 am
@697 I blame Knapp for having faith in Palmer . He should know JaCarson would screw it up some how …
October 15th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Who will be the Raiders top 4 pick, if they choose to keep the pick?
************************
LOL at top 4 pick.
This team wins no less than 6 games this year, and will draft in the 13-17 range, again.
^^^^^^^^
Nah. They will definitely be picking in the top 7….at least.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:10 am
704.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Michael Bush only has 50 yards more from scrimmage than Goodson does this season.
About 10 yards a game.
____________________________________________________
Do you think we are missing the Michael Bush type of back? A bigger back would be nice. Not saying that Micahel Bush ever embraced that role, kinda like Brandon Jacobs…
October 15th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I think Veldheer anchored as a long-term LT is not a given anymore.
Last year he was 2nd worst in the NFL in penalties and sacks allowed combined (behind only Jamarcus Webb of Chicago) and I can’t imagine he is fairing much better so far this year.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:10 am
MJD may run all over the place against them next week.
Thank god some crap QB like Gabbert is the QB for the Jags. That will give the Raiders a shot to actually beat another crappy team next week.
I wonder if the game will sell out?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:11 am
DA and Knapp screwed up on that one. The idiots are conservative when they shouldn’t be and over aggressive when they should not be. Can’t get it right.
=======================================
They screwed up by TRUSTING JaCarson with the BALL !
October 15th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Bush is a different type of back than Goodson, a guy who can take a lot of touches and fill the void as an everydown back.
Goodson is not that type of player, but he has been very effective with his limited touches. He is average 8 yards a carry and 12 yards a reception.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Veldheer should definitely be given at least another year at LT.
He is still young and he was just schooled by a great vet DE like Abraham.
Veldheer will learn from it. The kid is smart and is a beast!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Start the fire… burn it all down
October 15th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:03 am
The play call on Palmers pick six, was just to over aggressive. They could have gone to Myers or look for Reece
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Somebody, somewhere has to go for a TD to seal the deal, which we tried. A field goal would have left Atlanta ample time to go into a hurry up offense march down the field score a TD and win the game.
Unfortunately, Moore was double covered and CP threw a bone-headed INT. There are ways to throw a pass in that situation so that only the receiver will catch the ball, such as looping it over his head so the ball come down in front of the receiver and only the receiver has a chance to catch it, otherwise it goes out of bounds. Another way is to throw it very low at ankle level so the chances of an INT are reduced.
Unfortunately Palmer did neither. An elite QB makes that throw and scores; a mediocre QB doesn’t.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:13 am
I agree. They should have just ran the ball in that situation. I was surprised they passed.
DA and Knapp screwed up on that one. The idiots are conservative when they shouldn’t be and over aggressive when they should not be. Can’t get it right.
A rookie head coach and lousy retread offensive coordinator is just a bad mix.
——————————-
Can’t knock it too much…you to play to win the game….we had momentum…coach decided to ride with it….players gotta make plays at the same time too, and Carson knew he screwed up… if we run three times and get stuffed and just kick the field goal, and they come back down and score a TD to take the lead; everyone would be saying, why didn’t we stay aggressive when we had the momentum…. coaches coach…players decide the fate…. We really can’t complain too much…solid showing; just came up short, but 4-4 looks very possible now, and we can at least hopefully split the NO/Balt games after that.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:14 am
“Imagine the Fire”- Bane from The Dark Knight Rises
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Not down on Veldheer, but if we are picking #8 in the draft and there is some beast from a SEC school sitting there……..it is on the table now, as it probably wasn’t at the beginning of the year.
I thought last year Lamar Houston took a disappointing step backwards, this year it seems like Veldheer is taking the same step back.
Disappointing.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Palmer had a great game until that pick.
Palmer is a tough cookie though. He has been getting pounded this year and he came back and drove the Raiders down the field for the tying TD.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Go Raiders
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Hate to single out guys, but Smith had a horrible game. Get healthy false start Barnes!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Not down on Veldheer, but if we are picking #8 in the draft and there is some beast from a SEC school sitting there……..it is on the table now, as it probably wasn’t at the beginning of the year.
I thought last year Lamar Houston took a disappointing step backwards, this year it seems like Veldheer is taking the same step back.
Disappointing.
^^^^^^^^
Well you have to remember the constant stupid coaching turnover also.
I mean Veldheer and most these other young ones, have seen 3 different head coaches in 3 years and 3 different OLine coaches and other assistants.
Ridiculous.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Palmer had a great game until that pick.
Palmer is a tough cookie though. He has been getting pounded this year and he came back and drove the Raiders down the field for the tying TD.
—————–
Agreed. I was NOT a Carson fan at all before he came here, and the jury is still out on him if you ask me, but I’ll be the first to admit, he’s stood strong in the pocket this year and played well yesterday.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I personally would have lined up the WR’s, Myers, DMAC, Goodsen and handed to Goodsen, following Myers on the play in which CP was intercepted. Especially after seeing rip off that big run a few minutes before.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I mean Veldheer and most these other young ones, have seen 3 different head coaches in 3 years and 3 different OLine coaches and other assistants.
Ridiculous.
******************************
Agreed, however aren’t you one of the ones who wanted to get rid of Knapp already?
So that would be, what, 4 coaches and schemes in 3.5 years??
October 15th, 2012 at 11:19 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Not down on Veldheer, but if we are picking #8 in the draft and there is some beast from a SEC school sitting there……..it is on the table now, as it probably wasn’t at the beginning of the year.
I thought last year Lamar Houston took a disappointing step backwards, this year it seems like Veldheer is taking the same step back.
Disappointing.
^^^^^^^^
Well you have to remember the constant stupid coaching turnover also.
I mean Veldheer and most these other young ones, have seen 3 different head coaches in 3 years and 3 different OLine coaches and other assistants.
Ridiculous.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The Raiders with constant failure and staff turnover have ruined a lot of young players.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Sell the team to macdonalds
October 15th, 2012 at 11:19 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Palmer had a great game until that pick.
Palmer is a tough cookie though. He has been getting pounded this year and he came back and drove the Raiders down the field for the tying TD.
—————–
Agreed. I was NOT a Carson fan at all before he came here, and the jury is still out on him if you ask me, but I’ll be the first to admit, he’s stood strong in the pocket this year and played well yesterday
^^^^^^^^^
Palmer is better than over half of the QB’s starting in this league right now.
It’s too bad we weren’t able to see him work with Hue for another year, under Hue’s offensive system.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:19 am
With Abraham balling outta control, why not use your TE to help out a bit? At least chip him.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Smith got Abused yesterday….
October 15th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I mean Veldheer and most these other young ones, have seen 3 different head coaches in 3 years and 3 different OLine coaches and other assistants.
Ridiculous.
******************************
Agreed, however aren’t you one of the ones who wanted to get rid of Knapp already?
So that would be, what, 4 coaches and schemes in 3.5 years??
^^^^^^^^^
Yep. Cause Knapp should have never been hired in the first place!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Great game from our backers (Wheeler/Burris)
Time to lock up Wheeler Reggie!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:21 am
BEEECH DIGGITY KICKIN’ OFF ANOTHER BLOG PARTY WEEK
Whut up Brahs & Nerds
Don’t take the loss too hard, smoke a bowl and get ready for some Laker action tomorrow night!
Sacre ready to show Kanter why the last pic in the draft is the new Mr. Relevant (holla back to Young MC)
Got some huge announcements regarding my upcoming VIP Wrecks N Effect tour, I’ll drop them throughout the day, so get your taste buds ready
Right now I’m going to have a gourmet breakfast on the balcony made by this hot hizzy from Spearmint Rhino I porked in the bum last night. She trying to win me over, won’t work, but I’ll let her think it might (wink, wink)
Mimosas, eggs benedict, finely brewed espresso …
Awwwwwww yeah, Beeech Diggity Dawg’s in THE HIZZY
October 15th, 2012 at 11:21 am
blackandsilverside Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:19 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Not down on Veldheer, but if we are picking #8 in the draft and there is some beast from a SEC school sitting there……..it is on the table now, as it probably wasn’t at the beginning of the year.
I thought last year Lamar Houston took a disappointing step backwards, this year it seems like Veldheer is taking the same step back.
Disappointing.
^^^^^^^^
Well you have to remember the constant stupid coaching turnover also.
I mean Veldheer and most these other young ones, have seen 3 different head coaches in 3 years and 3 different OLine coaches and other assistants.
Ridiculous.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The Raiders with constant failure and staff turnover have ruined a lot of young players.
^^^^^^^^^^
Yep!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I have watched some Jags games this year, and they are awful.
No fight, tons of quit and horrendous QB play.
I think we can blow them out.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Agreed. Wheeler should be locked up for the next 3 years.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Well contrary to Vic Tafur’s take, there is NO such thing as a moral victory in today’s NFL. There are just wins and losses. And yesterday was a loss.
I had said a couple of things the last few weeks that were pretty obvious in yesterdays game. lst off, the corners are getting better. Pat Lee, Hanson and the converted Huff all played fairly well.
2ndly it is painfully apparent that the defense is better with McClain on the sidelines. While he made a nice play to stuff Michael Turner and save a TD, the team is better without him.
3rd, play Goodson. The best play McFadden made all day was the tackle on Palmers fumble. And that was a great play.
Lastly, I have said rookie coaches will make rookie mistakes. Tarver coming out of the defense that worked all day long, into a deep coverage zone was foolish.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Atl played their worst game of the season.. clearly looking ahead to the bye week.. and we still couldnt score.. still couldnt win.. start OVER.. I want the top pick.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Yeah, I know Wheeler is on a contract year, but I luv his motor. He’s a REAL football player, who brings it every game. Has been the best off-season FA acquisition, by far.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Burn it ta helll!!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:25 am
We aren’t picking first in the draft, you can let that one go.
We beat the Jags and Chiefs in the next two weeks, we “lose” the tiebreaker against them for draft purposes.
We will be picking #8 AT THE EARLIEST, and probably very close to last years #17.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I think the blog needs to turn to it’s secret weapon to get rid of Knapp…enter the “The Beeech Dawg.”
Knapp+”underage Stripper”+Motel room=righetous coach firing.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Klas
that was great but not quite as good as the original.
Do you have a link to the original? or any others?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:25 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Palmer had a great game until that pick.
=======================================
That pick was a terrible throw. But you are right, other than that, Palmer was once again absolutely outstanding. And right after he threw that pick, he then marched the team 80 yards in two minutes to tie it. The right sideline pass to Hagan was a thing of beauty on that drive.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Lastly, I have said rookie coaches will make rookie mistakes. Tarver coming out of the defense that worked all day long, into a deep coverage zone was foolish.
==========
Bingo!!!
We were getting pressure on Ryan all game long. Why go prevent???
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Tarver and knapp arent rookies… they’re àssholes
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
I think Dennis Allen should not have try to ice the kicker at the end of the game. He missed the free kick and made the real kick. I don’t like coaches trying to ice kickers. It does not work anymore.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Under Hue
Offense=improving
DHB=improving
DMAC=improving
Team as a whole=improving/playoff aspirations
Under DA
Offense=stuck in the mud
DHB=No longer improving
DMAC=Back to DMAC before Huejax
Team as a whole=Giant step back/no playoff aspirations
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DKnight007 Says:
Palmer is better than over half of the QB’s starting in this league right now.
It’s too bad we weren’t able to see him work with Hue for another year, under Hue’s offensive system.
———————–
Numbers could’ve been huge with Hue one more year, but thats saying a lot saying you’d take him over 15 QBs right now. I’m pulling for him ’cause he’s a Raider and I don’t play the favoritism told ya so game most like to play in here, so until he’s outta the silver&black, I’ll ride w/ him, but in all honesty, when looking at the starting QBs, I probably rank him somewhere between 20-25.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Speaking of KC, think the fans want Cassell back now?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Truth be told I tuned into the game the last few minutes of the 3rd quarter when they were tied. Did McClain get taken out of the game at any point yesterday ?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:27 am
743. Thats what i call a wasted season..
October 15th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I have watched some Jags games this year, and they are awful.
No fight, tons of quit and horrendous QB play.
I think we can blow them out.
—————————–
As I’m sure you know; this is still a tough league, and MJD is a trooper. I hope it’s a blow-out, but being they’re coming off a bye (just like us yesterday), you gotta expect a tough effort.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:29 am
McClain didn’t get benched per se, they finally get Burris up to speed after a bye week, to be the other LB in the 4-2-5 scheme.
You won’t see that much of all this week against the Jags.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:30 am
704.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Michael Bush only has 50 yards more from scrimmage than Goodson does this season.
About 10 yards a game.
*******************
Considering the differential in the amount of touches that is pretty remarkable. I mean Bush started 2 games and carried the load
October 15th, 2012 at 11:30 am
RaiderReggie Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
I think Dennis Allen should not have try to ice the kicker at the end of the game. He missed the free kick and made the real kick. I don’t like coaches trying to ice kickers. It does not work anymore.
————————————-
the f’d up thing is it never worked. It’s only worked on us! Lol but not Lol
October 15th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Thats what i call a wasted season..
******************************
So was 2010 a wasted season than, being we were not playing for anything the last two weeks of the season?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:33 am
BCZ,
Goodson is averaging 8 yards a carry and 16 yards a catch.
Granted, small sample size, but that is doing the most with your opportunity.
Got to find a way to get him a few more touches a game, IMO.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Bingo!!!
We were getting pressure on Ryan all game long. Why go prevent???
***************
I disagree. I rewatched the final 40 seconds a little while ago. Atlanta was running its WRs down field to clear out the underneath routes. The only play that ryan threw the ball more than 4 yards past the line of scrimmage was the final 1 to Gonzo. You also can’t say we were in a prevent when we blitzed on 1 of the final 6 plays. You have to cover those receivers downfield or you are going to get beat, the real problem was our guys not making the tackles and letting the atl receivers run out of bounds. Had we made 1 tackle on that final drive in bounds it goes to OT.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:35 am
McFadden is such a beast….I really really hope we have a super bowl contending team before he’s all said and done…can’t do nothing but like that guy after seeing his early career struggles, then his eventual peaking. Did you see the way he stood up to a full speed torpedoing Peterson on that blitz pickup; got knocked back a bit, but damn he’s a soldier…
October 15th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:29 am
McClain didn’t get benched per se, they finally get Burris up to speed after a bye week, to be the other LB in the 4-2-5 scheme.
You won’t see that much of all this week against the Jags.
==============================================
Exactly. McClain certainly was in there in the base and short yardage packages. I have openly questioned why the fook he was out there in the sub packages, and sure enough, he was out in the subs yesterday, Wheeler picked up his blitz and coverage assignments and did fairly well.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 am
BCZ,
Goodson is averaging 8 yards a carry and 16 yards a catch.
Granted, small sample size, but that is doing the most with your opportunity.
Got to find a way to get him a few more touches a game, IMO.
*********************
I agree. You have to find a way to get the ball into the hands of anyone who is making plays.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Bingo!!!
We were getting pressure on Ryan all game long. Why go prevent???
***************
I disagree. I rewatched the final 40 seconds a little while ago. Atlanta was running its WRs down field to clear out the underneath routes. The only play that ryan threw the ball more than 4 yards past the line of scrimmage was the final 1 to Gonzo. You also can’t say we were in a prevent when we blitzed on 1 of the final 6 plays. You have to cover those receivers downfield or you are going to get beat, the real problem was our guys not making the tackles and letting the atl receivers run out of bounds. Had we made 1 tackle on that final drive in bounds it goes to OT.
———
Agreed. Corners have to be ready to make those tackles on those short outs. And I kept saying the worse thing was Gonzo dropping that one pass off his fingertips cross the middle. Would’ve forced them to burn their last TO and it likely would’ve went to OT after that forcing them to go outside where we could’ve had folks sitting..
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Blackandsilverside Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Truth be told I tuned into the game the last few minutes of the 3rd quarter when they were tied. Did McClain get taken out of the game at any point yesterday ?
======
Pretty much a nickel D, W/ McJogger on the bench
October 15th, 2012 at 11:38 am
wheeler is playing lights out goodson is a fit in the zbs which means they might as well trade dmac since he is clearly not a zbs rb its not what I want but he will be a waste of time and money if he stays. keep Huff at corner which huejax was ALREADY gonna do anyway and find a better FS.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I think the blog needs to turn to it’s secret weapon to get rid of Knapp…enter the “The Beeech Dawg.”
Knapp+”underage Stripper”+Motel room=righetous coach firing.
====================================
I don’t think Knapp will go for an underaged male model.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@Bcz24
You agree with eastoaklandraider, that Huff looks better at corner?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:38 am
wheeler is playing lights out goodson is a fit in the zbs which means they might as well trade dmac since he is clearly not a zbs rb its not what I want but he will be a waste of time and money if he stays. keep Huff at corner which huejax was ALREADY gonna do anyway and find a better FS.
============================================
Enough with Hue Jackson. He was barely hanging on in the league and yesterday his secondary got torched, AGAIN, this time by a winless rookie. Please, dude, come to your senses.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:43 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Bingo!!!
We were getting pressure on Ryan all game long. Why go prevent???
***************
I disagree. I rewatched the final 40 seconds a little while ago. Atlanta was running its WRs down field to clear out the underneath routes. The only play that ryan threw the ball more than 4 yards past the line of scrimmage was the final 1 to Gonzo. You also can’t say we were in a prevent when we blitzed on 1 of the final 6 plays. You have to cover those receivers downfield or you are going to get beat, the real problem was our guys not making the tackles and letting the atl receivers run out of bounds. Had we made 1 tackle on that final drive in bounds it goes to OT.
———
Agreed. Corners have to be ready to make those tackles on those short outs. And I kept saying the worse thing was Gonzo dropping that one pass off his fingertips cross the middle. Would’ve forced them to burn their last TO and it likely would’ve went to OT after that forcing them to go outside where we could’ve had folks sitting..
==========
Whenever I see 3 linemen in…
I call it prevent
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
HaHa, this is so great, party up Wizzles
Traded whiner Bynum and his busted knees for the power of Superman right at the perfect time, amazing
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/15/andrew-bynum-to-have-another-routine-injection-in-knee/
Another splendid move by the Purple N Gold, shout out to Mitch, Jeannie and Vonda (our personal concierge in the Lexus luxury box)
Taking this jam to the NEXT LEVEL, “Gettin’ Mean with Ring #17″ (patent pending)
WRECKS FULLY N EFFECT
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMac is considerably more talented than Goodson, but Goodson is a better fit for the system we run.
And Reggie got him for a third-string lineman. That trade is bordering on genius right now.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I don’t think the Raider coaching staff felt that Atl had enough time to win it. Obviously they did. 40 seconds and a time out is an eternity and now every kicker in the league can routinely make 55-60 yard kicks. Especially off turf.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
770.Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:38 am
wheeler is playing lights out goodson is a fit in the zbs which means they might as well trade dmac since he is clearly not a zbs rb its not what I want but he will be a waste of time and money if he stays. keep Huff at corner which huejax was ALREADY gonna do anyway and find a better FS.
============================================
Enough with Hue Jackson. He was barely hanging on in the league and yesterday his secondary got torched, AGAIN, this time by a winless rookie. Please, dude, come to your senses.
________________________________________________
That isn’t fair…he is only the assistant DBs coach. If you looked on the sideline, all the water bottles were filled, Hue did his job!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
748.Marks hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Tarver and knapp arent rookies… they’re àssholes
Thats a little strong especially for the MS
October 15th, 2012 at 11:47 am
fingers Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Smith got Abused yesterday….
———–
It wasnt just yesterday either. Been abused sinc he’s been with us. He has major issues against speed rushers. Reason why he was cut by another team too. Never thought I’d say this but Smith makes me miss Barnes. Until we get our Oline fixed, we aint going any where.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:47 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMac is considerably more talented than Goodson, but Goodson is a better fit for the system we run.
And Reggie got him for a third-string lineman. That trade is bordering on genius right now.
=========================================
I keep saying it is not a “system fit” situation at all. Goodson runs harder. Yesterday, McFadden started out running hard, then reverted back to the 2012 version of McFadden which is two yards and dive on the ground. When McFadden let a pass bounce off his dome, Palmer didn’t look his way again. Goodson is just a more productive player right now. The best plays McFadden made all day yesterday was a tackle and a block. Maybe we should delegate him to special teams.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:48 am
That isn’t fair…he is only the assistant DBs coach. If you looked on the sideline, all the water bottles were filled, Hue did his job!
=================================
hehehe. good one.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:38 am
wheeler is playing lights out goodson is a fit in the zbs which means they might as well trade dmac since he is clearly not a zbs rb its not what I want but he will be a waste of time and money if he stays. keep Huff at corner which huejax was ALREADY gonna do anyway and find a better FS.
============================================
Enough with Hue Jackson. He was barely hanging on in the league and yesterday his secondary got torched, AGAIN, this time by a winless rookie. Please, dude, come to your senses.
————————-
you obviously will never get it bush. but huejax with cp3 and dmac healthy this offense would be a terror to deal with but somehow you cant see that. and to bring up where hue is at now is a moot point as many coaches have failed and come back to have success later in their career. and hue is not even a D guy so who ever hired him in the bungle org was a dumbass for hiring him in that capacity.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:51 am
IMHO, they should take the quick out route and throw it out of the playbook. Never understood that route and the potential of pick 6 involved with it. The ball has to travel a long way for a few yards gained.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@eastoaklandraider
What do you think Hue did to get black-balled so badly…thought he did a good job playcalling to end up an OC somewhere.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:55 am
i dont feel like bringing up all the stats but Hue as an OC had better numbers than DA as a DC and Hue as a HC 8-8 season filled with turmoil will be better than DA a season where he got a full offseason and cp3 with a full training camp.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Klas I found it. Same page same blog DOH!!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
you obviously will never get it bush. but huejax with cp3 and dmac healthy this offense would be a terror to deal with but somehow you cant see that.
================================================
No, what I SAW was a team that went 1-4 down the stretch, should have been 0-5, a team that did not score in 6 games in the second half, and a team that basically quit on Jackson. THAT’S what I saw.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
After a tough lost, I wonder how the troopers will come out next week?
Hungry and ready to play or roll over and throw in the towel?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
HUE,NORV,ART,LANCE,WHAT THE HELL..
October 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
After a tough lost, I wonder how the troopers will come out next week?
Hungry and ready to play or roll over and throw in the towel?
History shows that is what they do…hopefully infront of a home crowd, that doesn’t happen!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Klas had Hue Jackson sighting yesterday. He was standing next to head coach. Probably has more input than just coaching DBs.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@eastoaklandraider
What do you think Hue did to get black-balled so badly…thought he did a good job playcalling to end up an OC somewhere.
=============================================
Becoming power-hungry, trying to order the owner around and then supplying Mike Silver with material for a thinly-veiled hit piece will do that.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:59 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Who will be the Raiders top 4 pick, if they choose to keep the pick?
************************
LOL at top 4 pick.
This team wins no less than 6 games this year, and will draft in the 13-17 range, again.
^^^^^^^^
Nah. They will definitely be picking in the top 7….at least.
=========
If the season were to end today, we would be drafting 3-6 range!
Chiefs 1-5
Browns 1-5
Raiders 1-4
Jaguars 1-4
Panthers 1-4
Saints 1-4
October 15th, 2012 at 11:59 am
“If” Hue Jackson was coach the team would be 5-0. “If” I had a 12 inch kielbasa I would be a porn star.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:59 am
769.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@Bcz24
You agree with eastoaklandraider, that Huff looks better at corner?
*****************
He did yesterday for sure. He looked much more confident in the roll. He surprised me yesterday for sure.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I don’t fault the playcalling for Carson’s pick six.
Nothing wrong with trying to put Atlanta away. As we witnessed the Falcons can score quickly.
Overall a solid effort but still a loss at the end of the day.
I can’t tell you how many of these Raider heartbreakers I have watched in my day.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
you obviously will never get it bush. but huejax with cp3 and dmac healthy this offense would be a terror to deal with but somehow you cant see that.
================================================
No, what I SAW was a team that went 1-4 down the stretch, should have been 0-5, a team that did not score in 6 games in the second half, and a team that basically quit on Jackson. THAT’S what I saw
^^^^^^^^^
Bush just doesn’t get it. He is a Hue Hater…period.
Bush forgets that we had Chuck B as a DC last year. That hire alone cost the team the playoffs.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DA and Tarver going to a soft prevent with 40 seconds was stupid of course.
They should know better….especially the freakin physicist in Tarver?
Ugh
October 15th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Tarver is a chemist.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
r8eray Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:59 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Who will be the Raiders top 4 pick, if they choose to keep the pick?
************************
LOL at top 4 pick.
This team wins no less than 6 games this year, and will draft in the 13-17 range, again.
^^^^^^^^
Nah. They will definitely be picking in the top 7….at least.
=========
If the season were to end today, we would be drafting 3-6 range!
Chiefs 1-5
Browns 1-5
Raiders 1-4
Jaguars 1-4
Panthers 1-4
Saints 1-4
^^^^^^^^^
Panthers and Saints will wind up winning more games than Raiders for sure.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@eastoaklandraider
What do you think Hue did to get black-balled so badly…thought he did a good job playcalling to end up an OC somewhere.
—————-
hue was AL’S guy and where was hue before the raiders not an OC. But he came to this org with a horrible O in place and turned it around rather quickly I guess most of you forget that. if other teams dont want to hire him they have a problem because all Hue did was produce numbers and if he were still here I GUARANTEE we would have a top 5 O and be 4-1 at the worst right now and this blog would be on his sack but he never got his chance and now all of you who said he had to go must now deal with this crap situation we are stuck with now rebuilding after we as fans have waited 10 plus years for a winner.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
796.DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DA and Tarver going to a soft prevent with 40 seconds was stupid of course.
They should know better….especially the freakin physicist in Tarver?
******************
Yeah, for the 93rd time they weren’t in a prevent defense. Atlanta was running receivers down the field to open up the underneath stuff. Were the supposed to let Roddy and Julio just streak down the sidelines? Would you have been happier if they brought a zero blitz and Ryan hit Julio for a 50 yard TD pass? Watch the plays again. Really watch them, and you will see what I am talking about.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Matt Ryan has a 29-4 home record. We played the only undefeated team in the league and forced them to win with a last second 55 yd fg. I have no problem wiht yesterday’s loss. I think we gained more for our team in that loss than the W vs Pitt. Pitt we were just lucky that they played sloppy with the ball handling.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@eastoaklandraider
What do you think Hue did to get black-balled so badly…thought he did a good job playcalling to end up an OC somewhere.
—————-
hue was AL’S guy and where was hue before the raiders not an OC. But he came to this org with a horrible O in place and turned it around rather quickly I guess most of you forget that. if other teams dont want to hire him they have a problem because all Hue did was produce numbers and if he were still here I GUARANTEE we would have a top 5 O and be 4-1 at the worst right now and this blog would be on his sack but he never got his chance and now all of you who said he had to go must now deal with this crap situation we are stuck with now rebuilding after we as fans have waited 10 plus years for a winner.
*******************************************************
Thanks for the “Gaurantee”
October 15th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
hue was AL’S guy and where was hue before the raiders not an OC. But he came to this org with a horrible O in place and turned it around rather quickly I guess most of you forget that. if other teams dont want to hire him they have a problem because all Hue did was produce numbers and if he were still here I GUARANTEE we would have a top 5 O and be 4-1 at the worst right now and this blog would be on his sack but he never got his chance and now all of you who said he had to go must now deal with this crap situation we are stuck with now rebuilding after we as fans have waited 10 plus years for a winner.
***********************
Ignorance is bliss.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
The great thing about coaching hypotheticals is they can never be disproven. So someone can say “If Coach X was here right now, I GUARANTEE we’d be 4-1,” and there’s no way to prove him/her wrong.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 10:20 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
******************************
OK… well then fuk you guys !!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
Long Live The ODB!!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
What is a guarantee on a hypothetical statement that can not be proven?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
The great thing about coaching hypotheticals is they can never be disproven. So someone can say “If Coach X was here right now, I GUARANTEE we’d be 4-1,” and there’s no way to prove him/her wrong.
*********************************************************
Beat me to it.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I REALLY want to believe Palmer is among the elite QBs in the league… But every time he drops back, my sphincter tightens up a little…
I only saw the second half yesterday, did our new pass rusher Andre Carter even see the field??
Also, Burris is no joke… McLame should take some notes…
October 15th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
hue was AL’S guy and where was hue before the raiders not an OC. But he came to this org with a horrible O in place and turned it around rather quickly I guess most of you forget that. if other teams dont want to hire him they have a problem because all Hue did was produce numbers and if he were still here I GUARANTEE we would have a top 5 O and be 4-1 at the worst right now and this blog would be on his sack but he never got his chance and now all of you who said he had to go must now deal with this crap situation we are stuck with now rebuilding after we as fans have waited 10 plus years for a winner.
**************************
Tell me how Hue would have fixed the $40 million cap deficit. Tell me what Hue would have done with his 5 draft picks after the 3rd round. Tell me how Hue would have dealt with the injuries in the secondary. Tell me how Hue would have reclaimed the respect of the locker room after the team quit on him, and he pasted them in the post game presser. Tell me how Hue’s utter lack of discipline would have made this team improve.
Ya know. Revisionist history is brilliant. You so conveniently forget that Hue’s offense was horrible in the second half of most games, and how his team was terrible in the second half of the season.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Any of you dorks ever eat 7 eggs benedict + 5 espressos then take a huge unannounced dump in the hot tub while a drunk skank is rubbing your ding dong?
Just happened to me, and when my hot turds started rising to the top I told her it was my new surprise chocolate sauce jets, yikes
Anyway, she thankfully finished off the hand-jiggity and texted her friend that my jacuzzi is “totally cool, but there’s a funny smell”
Guess the Beeech Diggity barely got out of another tight jam, huh brahs
October 15th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Raider-In-PA Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I REALLY want to believe Palmer is among the elite QBs in the league… But every time he drops back, my sphincter tightens up a little…
*********************************************************
I bet your boyfriend enjoys it when you do that.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
796.DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DA and Tarver going to a soft prevent with 40 seconds was stupid of course.
They should know better….especially the freakin physicist in Tarver?
******************
Yeah, for the 93rd time they weren’t in a prevent defense. Atlanta was running receivers down the field to open up the underneath stuff. Were the supposed to let Roddy and Julio just streak down the sidelines? Would you have been happier if they brought a zero blitz and Ryan hit Julio for a 50 yard TD pass? Watch the plays again. Really watch them, and you will see what I am talking about.
=========================================
THIS. If Tarver had sent the house and Julio Jones would have caught a big pass in single coverage, we’d all be lamenting that.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Game plan shouldn’t be 2 difficult for our next game.
STOP MJD! We win!
He’ll be pumped and ready to play hard, coming back home.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I don’t give a fk what anyone says, but when you’ve been getting pressure on the QB for most of the game, then suddenly you play 3 interior linemen.
I call that PREVENT!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I am glad you mentioned Hue
DAILY REMINDER
The pimp hand is a better coach then the pimp.
Tom righted the ship and without that foundation, Hue would have floundered just like he has before and is doing now
Whereas the Pimp Hand has been very succesful everywhere he goes.
Look for him to get a head coaching job soon
Discuss
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
you obviously will never get it bush. but huejax with cp3 and dmac healthy this offense would be a terror to deal with but somehow you cant see that.
================================================
No, what I SAW was a team that went 1-4 down the stretch, should have been 0-5, a team that did not score in 6 games in the second half, and a team that basically quit on Jackson. THAT’S what I saw.
————-
ONCE AGAIN, lions game chuck B D fcks it up BUFF game chuck B D fcks it up Denver part 2 Chuck b D fcks it up SD finale chuck b D fcks it up. we scored enough points in each one of those games to win but chuck b fcks it up. thats 12-4 gents still hue gets no credit, and he did all that without a FULL OFSEASON, AS A ROOKIE HC WHICH DA IS, DMAC HURT, CARSON OFF THE COUCH,AND TONS OF PENALTIES. But despite all that the man gets no credit and he was a ROOKIE HC!!! but fck him right? lets fire him and bring a guy who coached a D that got torched by Hues O.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Bush just doesn’t get it. He is a Hue Hater…period.
===========================================
I am not a Hue hater. The National Football League is a Hue hater.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
814.DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I don’t give a fk what anyone says, but when you’ve been getting pressure on the QB for most of the game, then suddenly you play 3 interior linemen.
I call that PREVENT!
*****************
We only had 3 downline man for the last 2 plays though. We had a 4 man front for the other 4 plays on the drive including 1 blitz
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Wassup w/ Bergs?
Dude must be real raw.
Saw Brisiel get hurt and they replaced him w/ Parsons.
Didn’t the kid play some RT in college?
Smith is killing us.
We need you false start Barnes.
How about getting ready for ur ex-team?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Good one #811… Maybe your boyfriend would enjoy it if you did that too…
October 15th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
814.DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I don’t give a fk what anyone says, but when you’ve been getting pressure on the QB for most of the game, then suddenly you play 3 interior linemen.
I call that PREVENT!
*****************
We only had 3 downline man for the last 2 plays though. We had a 4 man front for the other 4 plays on the drive including 1 blitz
======
Didn’t get a chance to watch it again. You may be right, but I didn’t like seeing 3 linemen in there at any moment towards the end of a game.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Some random thoughts about yesterday’s heartbreaker…
Besides the Palmer pick-6, if there was one play that infuriated me, it was the early KRAPP call to run DMAC stretch left at the goal line which was stuffed for a 2 yard loss.
How many fkng times do we need to see this KRAPP play fail ? KRAPPY insists on running this POS play around the GL, when it clearly has no chance of success. Horrible call at a key moment, probable 4 pt swing. Fk you Krapp.
More…
I have been very hard on TITS. Still not sure what kind of GAME DAY HC he will turn out to be. Think he probably should have tried the 57 yd Jani FG early, but don’t think the decision to punt was horrible either.
Good CHALLENGE yesterday by TITS. He’s been solid on those so far.
I have not seen any discussion of TIT’S CLOCK MANAGEMENT on the game tying drive.
I was wondering WTF he was thinking by NOT taking a time out right before the HUGE gainer up the right sideline which nearly went for a TD.
I’m thinking ‘CALL a TO, MORON’ when the camera shows TITS excitedly imploring the RAIDS to hurry up to the LOS and run a play.
TITS sensed he had the Falcs on their heels and was going for the moment.
And TITS turned out to be RIGHT.
Luck or solid coaching ? Not sure, but you can’t argue with the result.
Good job, TITS.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I am glad you mentioned Hue
DAILY REMINDER
The pimp hand is a better coach then the pimp.
Tom righted the ship and without that foundation, Hue would have floundered just like he has before and is doing now
Whereas the Pimp Hand has been very succesful everywhere he goes.
Look for him to get a head coaching job soon
Discuss
============================================
Can’t see Cable getting a head-coaching job again. He was an OK game manager who the players loved, but that was about it.
He will, however, be the ZBS equivalent of Bob Wylie: an in-demand o-line coach in this league until he retires.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
you obviously will never get it bush. but huejax with cp3 and dmac healthy this offense would be a terror to deal with but somehow you cant see that.
================================================
No, what I SAW was a team that went 1-4 down the stretch, should have been 0-5, a team that did not score in 6 games in the second half, and a team that basically quit on Jackson. THAT’S what I saw.
————-
ONCE AGAIN, lions game chuck B D fcks it up BUFF game chuck B D fcks it up Denver part 2 Chuck b D fcks it up SD finale chuck b D fcks it up. we scored enough points in each one of those games to win but chuck b fcks it up. thats 12-4 gents still hue gets no credit, and he did all that without a FULL OFSEASON, AS A ROOKIE HC WHICH DA IS, DMAC HURT, CARSON OFF THE COUCH,AND TONS OF PENALTIES. But despite all that the man gets no credit and he was a ROOKIE HC!!! but fck him right? lets fire him and bring a guy who coached a D that got torched by Hues O.
===========================================
This is EXACTLY what I heard last year as we were dropping games. All of you Huge Jack sucka’s said it wasn’t his fault the defense sucked. I said, if he is an NFL worthy coach, he would FIX the defense. ALL OF YOU APOLOGISTS, said Jackson doesn’t coach defense. Well, now he is coaching defense. Admit you guys don’t know what the fook you are talking about.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
The hit that Wheeler delivered on Ryan was DOPE!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DA and Tarver going to a soft prevent with 40 seconds was stupid of course.
They should know better….especially the freakin physicist in Tarver?
Ugh
===
Klas understands why they did it. Remember what happened to Carolina?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Yeah, I know the special teams haven’t been great, but Lechler is horrible at penning guys inside the 20.
Yeah I said it.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
801.aig-raiders Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Matt Ryan has a 29-4 home record. We played the only undefeated team in the league and forced them to win with a last second 55 yd fg. I have no problem wiht yesterday’s loss. I think we gained more for our team in that loss than the W vs Pitt. Pitt we were just lucky that they played sloppy with the ball handling.
—
Let’s not discredit it when we win games. We won that game fair and square against Pitt.
THEY are lucky WE were sloppy on many occasions..lucky when DHB slipped and they picked off that pass in the first. “Lucky” when they cheap shotted DHB and broke up that pass.
We lose enough to have the games we DO win discounted as “lucky”. Imo.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I am glad you mentioned Hue
DAILY REMINDER
The pimp hand is a better coach then the pimp.
Tom righted the ship and without that foundation, Hue would have floundered just like he has before and is doing now
Whereas the Pimp Hand has been very succesful everywhere he goes.
Look for him to get a head coaching job soon
Discuss
===============================================
With all due respects to plunketthead I do not agree with him on some things, but he is 100% correct on this. When Cable took over this team, we would win one game and drop four in a row. Then we would win and drop three. Then two, then one. The team was poised to start stringing wins together. Jackson took over, and they finally won two in a row. Followed by dropping two. They won three!!! Followed by losing 4 of 5. Which is where we are now. Cable would have had us winning 9-11 games a year by now. Hue Jackson sucked schlongolo.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Don’t call Allen ‘tits’. It is pathetic and lame.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
817.Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Bush just doesn’t get it. He is a Hue Hater…period.
===========================================
I am not a Hue hater. The National Football League is a Hue hater.
—
I don’t see you taking over as president of his fan club either anytime soon.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Don’t call Allen ‘tits’. It is pathetic and lame.
============================================
We’re talking about the same people who mock Reggie’s appearance and manner of speaking. Maturity is beyond them.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
ONCE AGAIN, lions game chuck B D fcks it up BUFF game chuck B D fcks it up Denver part 2 Chuck b D fcks it up SD finale chuck b D fcks it up. we scored enough points in each one of those games to win but chuck b fcks it up. thats 12-4 gents still hue gets no credit, and he did all that without a FULL OFSEASON, AS A ROOKIE HC WHICH DA IS, DMAC HURT, CARSON OFF THE COUCH,AND TONS OF PENALTIES. But despite all that the man gets no credit and he was a ROOKIE HC!!! but fck him right? lets fire him and bring a guy who coached a D that got torched by Hues O.
***********************
Hue wasn’t the OC last year, he was the Head Coach. He is responsible for the defensive failures, he is responsible for the special teams failures, he is responsible for the NFL RECORD in penalties and penalty yardage, he is responsible for the offense not showing up in 4 of the last 5 games. He is responsible for the offense not scoring in the 4th quarter in 5 consecutive games.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Did Oakofshow die?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Did Oakofshow die?
=========================================
Doubt we’re that lucky…
October 15th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Did Oakofshow die?
========================================
Na, he is “parading” around the castro.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
hue was AL’S guy and where was hue before the raiders not an OC. But he came to this org with a horrible O in place and turned it around rather quickly I guess most of you forget that. if other teams dont want to hire him they have a problem because all Hue did was produce numbers and if he were still here I GUARANTEE we would have a top 5 O and be 4-1 at the worst right now and this blog would be on his sack but he never got his chance and now all of you who said he had to go must now deal with this crap situation we are stuck with now rebuilding after we as fans have waited 10 plus years for a winner.
***********************
Ignorance is bliss.
————-
no recant so thats the best you got.lol. your so right ignorance is bliss
October 15th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
no recant so thats the best you got.lol. your so right ignorance is bliss
*********************
Keep up junior. My next 2 posts clearly outline why Hue had to go.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
ONCE AGAIN, lions game chuck B D fcks it up BUFF game chuck B D fcks it up Denver part 2 Chuck b D fcks it up SD finale chuck b D fcks it up. we scored enough points in each one of those games to win but chuck b fcks it up. thats 12-4 gents still hue gets no credit, and he did all that without a FULL OFSEASON, AS A ROOKIE HC WHICH DA IS, DMAC HURT, CARSON OFF THE COUCH,AND TONS OF PENALTIES. But despite all that the man gets no credit and he was a ROOKIE HC!!! but fck him right? lets fire him and bring a guy who coached a D that got torched by Hues O.
***********************
Hue wasn’t the OC last year, he was the Head Coach. He is responsible for the defensive failures, he is responsible for the special teams failures, he is responsible for the NFL RECORD in penalties and penalty yardage, he is responsible for the offense not showing up in 4 of the last 5 games. He is responsible for the offense not scoring in the 4th quarter in 5 consecutive games.
——————–
you are hopeless that D belonged to AL And he wouldnt let anybody fck with it it was his way or the highway. remember the whole rob ryan fiasco and any other DC who thouht they were gonna come in here and run their D. you cant really be a RAIDERS fan an not know common knowledge.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
817.Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Bush just doesn’t get it. He is a Hue Hater…period.
===========================================
I am not a Hue hater. The National Football League is a Hue hater.
—
I don’t see you taking over as president of his fan club either anytime soon.
================================================
Other than you guys and Hue’s mom, Hue has one person in his fan club right now. And that one fan of Hue Jackson IS Hue Jackson.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
And that one fan of Hue Jackson IS Hue Jackson.
==========================================
You forgot Mike Silver…
October 15th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Yes 2010 was a wasted season..
October 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
So…what happened after October 8th? Al did not have his hand on the D from the grave…sorry had to chime in with that one!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
you are hopeless that D belonged to AL And he wouldnt let anybody fck with it it was his way or the highway. remember the whole rob ryan fiasco and any other DC who thouht they were gonna come in here and run their D. you cant really be a RAIDERS fan an not know common knowledge.
***********************
All died prior to week 5. Hue made MANY changes to that team that Al never would have consented to, such as sign TJ Housh… Hue lobbied for it in camp, and Al told him hell no. We saw how that worked, and how Hagan has performed since returning to the team. HE is responsible for the players giving up. His team was notorius for second half let downs, in both the games and on the season. It was obvious at the end that they were not playing for him anymore. I was a Hue supporter because of his offense, until I took a step back in the offseason and really looked at the team.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
you are hopeless that D belonged to AL And he wouldnt let anybody fck with it it was his way or the highway. remember the whole rob ryan fiasco and any other DC who thouht they were gonna come in here and run their D. you cant really be a RAIDERS fan an not know common knowledge.
***********************
All died prior to week 5. Hue made MANY changes to that team that Al never would have consented to, such as sign TJ Housh… Hue lobbied for it in camp, and Al told him hell no. We saw how that worked, and how Hagan has performed since returning to the team. HE is responsible for the players giving up. His team was notorius for second half let downs, in both the games and on the season. It was obvious at the end that they were not playing for him anymore. I was a Hue supporter because of his offense, until I took a step back in the offseason and really looked at the team.
————–
cant fire and hire DC teach new D scheme mid season c’mon lol
October 15th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Would like to give TITS and TARVER some additional credit for finally benching, or at least limiting, MCLAME’S playing time.
Long overdue.
Next up…
ACTIVATE TP.
PLAY TAIWAN.
Eventually…
FIRE KRAPP.
We might not be making the playoffs. Scratch that – we won’t be making the PLAYOFFS ?!?!?.
But there’s still a season to be played out.
Imperative that TITS doesn’t lose this team and utilizes the roster to it’s maximum potential.
2012 should be used as a springboard for the future.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
cant fire and hire DC teach new D scheme mid season c’mon lol
**************
Nope, but as the HC you ARE responsible when the players dont execute the scheme.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Beeeeeewww… thats the sound of this season..
October 15th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
796.DKnight007 Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DA and Tarver going to a soft prevent with 40 seconds was stupid of course.
They should know better….especially the freakin physicist in Tarver?
******************
Yeah, for the 93rd time they weren’t in a prevent defense. Atlanta was running receivers down the field to open up the underneath stuff. Were the supposed to let Roddy and Julio just streak down the sidelines? Would you have been happier if they brought a zero blitz and Ryan hit Julio for a 50 yard TD pass? Watch the plays again. Really watch them, and you will see what I am talking abou
^^^^^^^^
Giving up yards to set up your opponent for a game winning FG, is pretty much a “prevent”. Especially with 40 secs left.
Cover the sidelines tighter and the middle of field. DA and Tarver should have known to sideline routes and cover Gonzo.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
On a positive note….
We are currently ranked 18th against the run.
Wooowhoooooo!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I want the top pick.. quit fùcking around
October 15th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Jax is ranked dead last in total offense.
Stop MJD and we win.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
The local media didn’t like the way Hue talked to them, so they turned on him also. Poor little baby media guys. However, Allen and McK will get a free pass until next year at the very least.
Way to go chumps!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Let’s take out our anger and frustrations on Jax.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Totall disaster…
October 15th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
You lads need a better hobby
October 15th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Tell me how Hue would have fixed the $40 million cap deficit. Tell me what Hue would have done with his 5 draft picks after the 3rd round. Tell me how Hue would have dealt with the injuries in the secondary. Tell me how Hue would have reclaimed the respect of the locker room after the team quit on him, and he pasted them in the post game presser. Tell me how Hue’s utter lack of discipline would have made this team improve.
—————
1)CAP-not hues job
2)hue had his picks already,DMAC,DMOORE,VELDEER,WIZ,REECE,FORD,BRANCH,HUFF,ETC
3)INJURIES- LETS SEE HE DEALT WITH JC.DMAC,FORD,DMOORE INJURIES JUST FINE
4)IF PLAYERS CANT HANDLE A LIL CRITICISM AS THEY GET PAID MILLIONS THEN GET OUT DONT WANT YOU HERE ANYWAY
5)PENALTIES- ON EVERY WINNING RAIDERS TEAM WE HAD PENALTY ISSUES, MADDEN, FLORES,GRUDEN,CALLAHAN, WE WERE JUST GOOD ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THEM ONCE AGAIN COMMON RAIDER KNOWLEDGE.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears! (fire Tedford)
Go Raiders!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
OUCH! Ray Lewis out for year and maybe career!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Players didn’t play Hue anymore??
That’s laughable.
Like the players are really buying into Knapp and crappy offensive system and the whacked special teams coach and a deer under the headlights former Bronco coach like DA as their leader?
Seymour and Kelly will be gone next year and so will Huff and maybe even McClain. Those guys don’t give a crap about playing for this new coaching regime.
They are tired of it.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Tell me how Hue would have fixed the $40 million cap deficit. Tell me what Hue would have done with his 5 draft picks after the 3rd round. Tell me how Hue would have dealt with the injuries in the secondary. Tell me how Hue would have reclaimed the respect of the locker room after the team quit on him, and he pasted them in the post game presser. Tell me how Hue’s utter lack of discipline would have made this team improve.
—————
1)CAP-not hues job
2)hue had his picks already,DMAC,DMOORE,VELDEER,WIZ,REECE,FORD,BRANCH,HUFF,ETC
3)INJURIES- LETS SEE HE DEALT WITH JC.DMAC,FORD,DMOORE INJURIES JUST FINE
4)IF PLAYERS CANT HANDLE A LIL CRITICISM AS THEY GET PAID MILLIONS THEN GET OUT DONT WANT YOU HERE ANYWAY
5)PENALTIES- ON EVERY WINNING RAIDERS TEAM WE HAD PENALTY ISSUES, MADDEN, FLORES,GRUDEN,CALLAHAN, WE WERE JUST GOOD ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THEM ONCE AGAIN COMMON RAIDER KNOWLEDGE.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly!
Chuck B and his crappy one dimensional defense is what cost Hue and the team the playoffs!
End of story!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Why do you guys want to win a hand full of games against the dregs of the nfl? It only hurts our draft pick.. Id rather start over and build the team right..
October 15th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Only way McK trades DMC is if he gets a 1st, a 3rd and 2nd Rounder in 2014 draft in return.
Now way any team gives that up.
Maybe the Jets though….they wanted DMC badly when we drafted him ahead of them and they need an explosive RB badly.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Saying Huejack lost all respect of the lockerroom is pure speculation.
Not one player has come out and said that and it’s just a guess.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Jax is ranked dead last in total offense.
Stop MJD and we win.
—————-
PUT 8 IN THE BOX STOP MJD AND MAKE GABBERT BEAT US EASY AS PIE RIGHT? WAIT WASNT THAT THE PLAN IN THE MIA GAME?
FCK!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Until CP3 is allowed to no huddle 100% of the time, we WILL continue to struggle scoring points.
FACT.
Palmer put up BIG FCKN NUMBERS against PITT. Result: WIN
NO HUDDLE vs DENVER: FCKNG PATHETIC
Last drive vs ATLANTA: EASY SIX
FACT: Palmer needs to TAKE 100% FULL CONTROL OF THE LINE.
ITS A NO FCKNG BRAINER.
FACT: I should be the fckn OC. I would give Palmer the reigns.
Stay the status quo = WE’RE EFFED UP THE BUNGOLA, HARD COPY STYLE
FACT: Thats a FACT. PRINT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Marks hair Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Why do you guys want to win a hand full of games against the dregs of the nfl? It only hurts our draft pick.. Id rather start over and build the team right..
^^^^^^^^
Don’t worry. Raiders won’t win more than 4 games this year. 5 games max.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Ok I watched that play again where Carson threw that pick six. Was like 2:37 seconds left in the game 3rd and 6.
Reece ran a flat out route and was WIDE OPEN for the first down.. a defender wasnt anywhere near him for like 5 yards.
However CARSON STARES at DMOORE the whole way.. I mean he startes DMOORE down any CB would see .. to top it off he throws the pass behind DMOORE and is an easy pick for Asante. Should have thrown it toward the sideline.
HORRIBLE
October 15th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
JAGUARS
RAIDERS -4
O/U 43
October 15th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Dennis Allen has a snatch and slomac is the worst MLB in the league.
So glad there are always so many good football games on Sundays so I don’t have to be subjected to watching these flamers.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
ITS 420(east coast)
FIRE EM UP GreenParty !!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Your a delusional idiot Palmer played great yesterday Asante his behind Moore there was no way Palmer could have seen him.
Without Palmer we are not even in that game so you might want to shut your cake hole your lack of football IQ is showing.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Asante hid behind Moore there was no way Palmer could have seen him.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
jags
chiefs
bucs
ravens
saints
bengals
browns
broncos
chiefs
chargers
after yesterday’s performance, which one of these games is a game we can’t win? Ravens run d sucks and hopefully our works by then. Saints D is in shambles. We can still go 12 -4, 11-5, 10-6. Yea I said it, GO RAIDERS
October 15th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
jags
chiefs
bucs
ravens
saints
bengals
browns
broncos
chiefs
chargers
after yesterday’s performance, which one of these games is a game we can’t win? Ravens run d sucks and hopefully our works by then. Saints D is in shambles. We can still go 12 -4, 11-5, 10-6. Yea I said it, GO RAIDERS
——————
GUESS YOU FORGOT WE LOSE GAMES WE SHOULD WIN AND WIN OR COMPETE IN GAMES WE SHOULD LOSE.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Carson looked the whole way at dmoore and throws the pass behind him.
That means nothing w/o we are not in the game. If it wasnt for the defense were are not in the game. You think palmer though Dmoore was open? of course not.
He said so after the game. It was his mistake and he tried to force it in there. Big time mistake that shouldnt have happened.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
thought*
October 15th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
GUESS YOU FORGOT WE LOSE GAMES WE SHOULD WIN AND WIN OR COMPETE IN GAMES WE SHOULD LOSE.
Not any more. Theres a new sheriff in town and he does not put up with that. The DA is gonna shock all the nonbelievers.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Imagine these fans’ reaction if Palmer threw 3 picks, like Ryan. Oh, but they won, that’s right, so those picks don’t count. lol. Simple people need to keep things simple.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Our QB threw a pick 6. Show him the door. In fact, just keep the door left open if we’re going to usher every QB that throws a pick 6 out of here.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Who gives a schit when a coach throws a player undr the bus when he deserves it, these guys make millions should be able to take a lil critism in or out house they have no problem when they get the praise so handle the critism .
if Im on a team and my teamate has been fcking up all season and then the coach lets the world know about it thats fine by me maybe it will make him play better, but if the guy starts whining and crying ” aww the coach talked bad about me in front of the media I dont wanna play for him anymore” (dont forget they make millions to play a game) I would want him off my team asap fcking puzzy just play better or get the fck out!!! is what I would tell him.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Speaking of which, the Falcons should bench Ryan or show him the door. 3 picks? Wow. Inexcusable. Who’s the backup? Play him.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Total bummer about Ray Lewis, that dude gave sweet pre-game pump up speeches
Once partied with Ray Ray in NYC, he was all hot for one of the Kardashian tramps, I was making out with the bartender
We both ended up face down in a plate of chili cheese fries at Nathan’s, holla
Yo, where’s K-Rat at?
It’s a beautiful day in Switzerland so he’s gotta be logging onto the blog soon
The only excuse is he’s down at the local liquor store buying them out of Malibu Rum
SHIZZ TO THE IZZ TO THE DIZZLE
October 15th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
It’s pretty amazing to me that for 10 years we’ve had huge issues at the QB position. We finally get a legitimate starting QB (probably a top 10-12 QB, depending) and people want to bench him for Pryor. Wow.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Palmers a ball’r…glad to have him at Qb…..he’s no quitter …
October 15th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Who gives a schit when a coach throws a player undr the bus when he deserves it, these guys make millions should be able to take a lil critism in or out house they have no problem when they get the praise so handle the critism .
if Im on a team and my teamate has been fcking up all season and then the coach lets the world know about it thats fine by me maybe it will make him play better, but if the guy starts whining and crying ” aww the coach talked bad about me in front of the media I dont wanna play for him anymore” (dont forget they make millions to play a game) I would want him off my team asap fcking puzzy just play better or get the fck out!!! is what I would tell him.
—————–
when the Pres fcks up the whole world knows about it through the media and they dont cry about it so why should an athlete cry about it and its only a game makes no sense to me.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Of course he is going to act like a man and take responsibility but how many big gains were lost to penalties yesterday and a McFadden fumble were also to blame.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
MonumentRaider Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
It’s pretty amazing to me that for 10 years we’ve had huge issues at the QB position. We finally get a legitimate starting QB (probably a top 10-12 QB, depending) and people want to bench him for Pryor. Wow.
——————
I dont want cp3 benched but I do want TP to get in the games at least to get his feet wet a lil bit in a real game all knapp has to do is install a small package for him. the whiners do it dont think thats too much to ask.
October 15th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Yesterday was the first time we felt the impact of the old officials coming back. After reading Donaghy’s book, I’m totally under the belief that there are some officials out there that do there best to hurt the Raiders. With ticky tack and BS calls, and there were numerous ones yesterday. That hurt, but I think the biggest blunder was on DA. Palmer’s pass would have been a td if it was one foot to the right. He has to be aggressive and make that throw, I had no problem with it. Mistakes happen. What I can’t get behind is Allen calling a timeout with 47 seconds left on the clock, on the goal line after first down. That was horrible, I see no excuse to do that, bad clock mgmt. Maximum of three plays left, two timeouts left, at most he should have left 30 seconds on that clock.
The biggest problem I had with Hue was at times he looked like he had too much to manage and was over his head. You could see him scrambling on the sidelines. Yesterday’s early timeout had the same feel to it for me, not a fan of our head coach making these mistakes.
October 15th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Michael Vick has 30 turnovers in 30 games.
October 15th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 15th, 2012 at 11:51 am
IMHO, they should take the quick out route and throw it out of the playbook. Never understood that route and the potential of pick 6 involved with it. The ball has to travel a long way for a few yards gained.
——————–
Totally agree, that’s a horrible call, especially under the circumstances.
October 15th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
anyone have a link of the Comartie/Palmer INT ?
October 15th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
How about Alex Smith yesterday?? hahaha
October 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Please sell this team now..
October 15th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
This team is invested with the Curse/stench of the devil Jew Al davis and they will never be good unless Mark sells this team..Period!!!
October 15th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Reggie and the coaching staff are unprepared to manage a high school team
March 28th, 2013 at 5:41 am
Free Online Bonus Slots…
Thoughts from afar on Raiders loss to Falcons – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group…