Palmer calls Jaguars game ‘must-win”
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, October 17th, 2012 at 3:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders and Jaguars are 1-4, with their seasons on the line this Sunday. Already, things don’t bode well for both teams, given only seven out of the 156 teams that started 1-4 since 1978 made it to the playoffs that season, according to STATS, Inc.
Hence, it’s not surprising that quarterback Carson Palmer called Sunday’s game between the Raiders and Jaguars a “must-win game.”
For added emphasis, coach Dennis Allen displayed the records of AFC teams for the players to see and outlined where the Raiders stand.
“it’s a must-win for us,” Palmer said. “It’s an AFC game and an opportunity to start climbing our way back into the race.”
The Raiders are in third place in the AFC West, one-half game ahead of the 1-5 Kansas City Chiefs and 1 1/2 games behin the 3-3 Denver Broncos and San Diego Chargers.
The three other AFC West teams have their byes Sunday. Therefore, the Raiders can move within one game of the division lead with a victory over the Jaguars — the Chargers and Broncos beat the Raiders, so they own the tiebreak for now.
Imagine the odds for the team that loses Sunday. Well, here goes: the Chargers are the only team that reached four games below .500 at any point in the season to go on to make the playoffs.
“Everybody’s mood is a sense of ugerncy,” Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew said. “We dug ourselves a hole and the only way to get out is to take it one play at a time and get out there and play.”
– Seems as if every week, more and more people want to know why fullback Marcel Reece isn’t a bigger part of the offense.
Well, the question was posed to Palmer on Wednesday. Here’s his explanation:
“It’s unfortunate; he has had a handful of plays called for him, and it seems like all of them, they end up getting turned into the league,” Palmer said. “He had a deep corner route on somebody last week that was blatant (pass interference) that wasn’t called. I was going to throw it to him but I ended up having to throw it to the checkdown just because he literally was almost tackled coming out of his route.
“I kept feeling at this part of the season that every time his number is called, we’re turning the plays in because it wasn’t called on the field by the referees. And it comes back as, ‘Yeah, that should have been called as P.I.’ So, he’s gotten his opportunities, it just hasn’t, the ball just hasn’t, so to speak, bounced his way. But we understand the weapon he is, and the defenses that play us understand the weapon he is, and he’s going to get his opportunities.”
Through five games, Reece has been targeted 19 times. He has 14 receptions for 119 yards. There’s no way of knowing how many times Palmer wanted to throw to Reece but opted for another receiver.
– As hard as it seems to believe, Jones-Drew will make his Coliseum debut as an NFL player Sunday.
Jones-Drew played at the Coliseum during his standout high school career at De La Salle. Yet, his only games against the Raiders came in Jacksonville.
“It’s just great to come home, see some family members, let them get a chance to see me play,” Jones-Drew said in a conference call.
The Raiders figure to see plenty of Jones-Drew, too. He has accounted for 41 percent of their offense through five games, with 494 of the Jaguars 1,206 yards.
How much the Raiders see of Jones-Drew will hinge upon if the game remains tight. Jones-Drew averaged 17 carries the first five games.
“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with our run game,” Jones-Drew said. “We just have to be more consistent. With that, we have to be able to be in games. We can’t run the ball when we’re down by 30. Or run the ball when we’re down by 17. It doesn’t make sense. We have to keep the game close and stick to our game plan.”
Jones-Drew said he grew up following the Raiders as a youngster from Antioch. Former Raiders running back Napoleon Kaufman is the one player he most identified with.
“I was a big Napoleon Kaufman fan for a while,” Jones-Drew said. “That was one of my top Raiders, because he was a smaller back, came out of the pack.”
Jones-Drew, too, is considered short, fast and elusive.
– Strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler now is the one on defense wearing the helmet fitted with the radio linked to defensive coordinator Jason Tarver.
The change came last game, when McClain was removed from the nickel package and, as a result, not on the field for every down.
– The Jaguars are one of only six teams with a winning record against the Raiders all-time.
Here’s the list: Chiefs 53-48-2, Patriots 15-14, Packers 6-5, Ravens 5-1, Texans 5-2 and Jaguars 4-1.
– According to Allen, McClain had his most production per downs played Sunday against the Falcons.
In that game, McClain played only 17 of 55 snaps after being replaced by rookie Miles Burris in the nickel package.
“He responded well,” Allen said, “and he actually, he played well. He had his most productive play on a per-play basis in that football game.”
McClain played 73 of 77 snaps in the game against the Broncos on Sept. 30. Playing so much in that game and the three others before the Falcons game affected his production, Allen said.
“When we went back and looked and saw how many plays that Rolando was playing, it had a factor in his conditioning,” Allen said. “We felt like him not playing quite as many plays would help him to play better and be more effective, and it had that effect in this game.”
McClain was not available for comment in the locker room today.
– Right offensive tackle Willie Smith started three games for the Washington Redskins last season. In his three starts for the Raiders this season, he has faced the likes of Elvis Dumervil and John Abraham.
As expected, the results have been mixed for Smith, as he acclimates himself to becoming a full-time player. It’s all part of the maturation process, Allen said.
“It’s reality,” Allen said. “It’s the National Football League. Every week, you go up and you play against talented guys. He’s getting a crash course and he’s got to learn fast. And we’re going to continue to put him out there and let him keep getting better.”
– Someone that won’t be getting an opportunity to show what he can do anytime soon is second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor.
Allen said that Palmer is doing just fine and that he doesn’t have any intention of taking a look at Pryor in the near future.
“We’ve got a quarterback that plays extremely well and we’ve been very pleased with the way Carson’s played in football games,” Allen said. “Obviously, we’ll do anything that we feel like gives us a chance to win football games. But right now, we don’t feel like that’s in our plans.”
– Sebastian Janikowski still is on the injury report with a sore groin. Yet, that had nothing to do with Allen’s decision to forgo a shot at a 58-yard field-goal attempt against the Falcons in the first half Sunday.
The game was scoreless at the time, with the Raiders at the Falcons 40-yard line.
“Not that early in the game,” Allen said. “A 58-yarder against that offense, your percentages, even though Sebastian is very capable of kicking a 58-yarder, I’ve got all the confidence in the world in Sebastian kicking a 58-yarder, but in that situation against that team, my decision was, it was the right thing to do to try to pin them back and make them go the long way.”
As it turned out, Shane Lechler’s punt bounced into the end zone, giving the Falcons the ball at their own 20. A missed field goal by Janikowski would have given the Falcons the ball at their 48.
Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan was intercepted two plays later, and the Raiders ended up kicking a field goal at the end of that drive.
– Right guard Mike Brisiel returned to practice only three days after he suffered a concussion. Allen said Brisiel passed all the league-mandates tests and was cleared for full contact in practice.
Therefore, it’s likely that Brisiel will start Sunday against the Jaguars. Brisiel said he, too, is of the belief that the Raiders use of the zone-blocking scheme is about to yield big dividends now that it has had ample time to take hold.
“In my experience, the zone scheme, it does take time to get everybody familiar with it and familiar with the players next to them,” Brisiel said. “I just love how everybody comes to work each day and everyone’s trusting each other and we’re going to get it going. We’re (headed) in the right direction and we just got to keep working.”
– Linebacker Aaron Curry returned to practice today for the first time since the Raiders shut him down during offseason workouts.
Allen said it’s too early to project how Curry might be used if he’s able to get into shape within the next three weeks. The Raiders have 21 days to decide whether to activate, waive or place Curry on the injured-reserve list.
“We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it,” Allen said. “That’s not a decision that we have to make right now. Right now, the biggest thing is to see where he’s at physically, see how he responds to a couple of days of practice, how the knee responds to it. And then we’ll make that decision when we need to.”
Allen said Monday that Curry spent time during his long layoff learning all three linebacker positions. Curry started at the weak-side spot last season. That job now belongs to Burris.
Curry was unavailable for comment during the media-access window today.
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Vince Young, 2 two pro bowler, 31-19 record… no one will touch him with a 6 foot stick…
measuring a player by wins and losses is like measuring a team by stats, its ignorant.
good night.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
2 Kewl for…Oh…nevermind!
October 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Isn’t every game a Must-Win?
October 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Palmer has thrown 6 TD’s this year. But I don’t blame him. Just like I don’t blame DMAC, for the running game. This is Knapp’s offense.
Nfl.com
October 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
4 cryin’ out loud…Where is everybody?
October 17th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I don’t really know you KoolKell, but I’ve been reading this blog for some time. I’m beginning to think you’re not a Raiders fan at all.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I wonder how many concussions ol KrappyRat has suffered getting slapped on the back of the head by his boss at Kane
Poor old goat is on vacation in Switzerland, never leaves the apt, blogs all day, drinks Malibu Rum all night … you get the idea
Sorry old Troll, gots to keep it real
HOLLA
October 17th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Allen said that Palmer is doing just fine and that he doesn’t have any intention of taking a look at Pryor in the near future.
“We’ve got a quarterback that plays extremely well and we’ve been very pleased with the way Carson’s played in football games,” Allen said. “Obviously, we’ll do anything that we feel like gives us a chance to win football games. But right now, we don’t feel like that’s in our plans.”
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If your coach is this STUPID the Raiders are going to have back to back 4-12 season until his big t!tty @ss is fired!!! lol
October 17th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
given only seven out of the 156 teams that started 1-4 since 1978 made it to the playoffs that season, according to STATS, Inc.
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So, you’re saying there is a chance?
October 17th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
It’s just not the same without Al.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Atlanta was a must win GAME and Carson Russell choked big time ! I mean super choker type of choke …
October 17th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I should not compare Carson with JaMarcus … Atleast JaMarcus could win division games now and then … lol
October 17th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I guess that means not giving other other team freebies biatch!
Note to self: Throw it the guys in the Silver helmets
October 17th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
So could Carson…at least last year…
October 17th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
“It’s unfortunate; he has had a handful of plays called for him, and it seems like all of them, they end up getting turned into the league,” Palmer said. “He had a deep corner route on somebody last week that was blatant (pass interference) that wasn’t called. I was going to throw it to him but I ended up having to throw it to the checkdown just because he literally was almost tackled coming out of his route.
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Such is life when you wear the silver and black in the NFL
October 17th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Re Slowlando: “We felt like him not playing quite as many plays would help him to play better and be more effective, and it had that effect in this game.”
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It had an effect on the game the snaps he was on the sideline….
October 17th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
you sound like little biatch in this post bra, tuck in your slip and if you dont like my post dont read them.
Why did you even respond? You act like a chic
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wow can’t take it when you’re exposed? everyone knows your wrong so you have a hissy fit after being exposed. You attend the games ever? why don’t you hollar at me next time you do, wait let me guess, you’d never dare
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exposed in what way?
i do go to a game or two a year, but i have no problem getting at you bra, and we dont need the coliseum.
What are you talking about anyway fighting? Anything i say here i will gladly say to your face, i would suggest that you dont take it any further than that. that would not be smart
October 17th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
:popcorn:
October 17th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
For the last two years I have said that McClain is a MAJOR liability out there for our defense. 99% of posters here wanted Kelly and Seymour cut, but the reality is that those two were both very good. McClain, and Kirk Morrison before him, that missed their assignments and when they did do the job it was 6 yards downfield.
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this i agree with, but i do think big dick and tk have been spotty and inconsistent as well
October 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Brahs, with Gangnam Style going #1 in the world, it’s a happy day in Camp Beeech Dawg
DJ Kimchi, my dope new sidekick, is milking all the attention he can through social media
The plan is to get all the Gangnam Style attention diverted to Wrecks N Effect
In a a few minutes my little yellow homie will be tweeting out a shot of him with a jock strap wrapped around his head getting pushed into the jacuzzi by a group of wasted strippers
There is no possible way this can fail
October 17th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
“He would scare the heck out of me,” Pro Football Hall of Famer John Madden said of RGIII on SiriusXM’s NFL Radio. (Audio here.) “I’ll tell you, any coach, any team, any defense, the one thing that you fear is speed – whether that guy is a running back that could break loose, whether he’s a wide receiver that could get over the top or if he’s a quarterback that can run like this guy.
“Did you see him last week?” Madden continued. “I mean, go down the sideline? I have never, in the history of football, I have never seen a quarterback ever run that fast. I know that that’s what the Giants are thinking. I mean, they’re looking at that and they’re saying, whoo, or wow, or we can’t let that guy do that to us. So that takes a lot away from your defense, whether it’s real or imagined.
“A lot of time in life we defend ghosts,” he continued. “You saw something a week ago and you’re still out there holding your ground. When he hands off inside, you’re waiting for him to run around the end. So I think that’s going to be a problem with the Giants this week, real and imagined: They’re going to have to worry about him. You have to worry about his throwing, and you have to worry about him as a quarterback, and then doggone, the thing that would scare me most about him really is that speed.”-
our beloved super bowl winning iconic former head coach hall of fame inductee JOHN MADDEN
October 17th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
SO YOU DONT LIKE MY WAVE OF THE FUTURE TAKE?
You think RGIII is just another running qb?
You dont agree with me when i say he is revolutionizing rthe nfl and changing pro football qb postioin forever?
Well what do you thiNk of what HALL OF FAME INDUCTEE AND FORMWER SUPER BOWL WINNING COACH OF OUR SILVER AND BLACK THINKS. ……
Later, Madden suggested that RGIII was helping to change our idea of what a pro quarterback should be.
“If he gets away from you on any type of scramble, he can just outrun anyone that you have on your team, and that is very, very scary,” Madden said. “I think that’s gonna be the pro quarterback style, I really do. If you go back and look at high school football, the way they play, and college football, the way they play, that’s the type of quarterback that we’re developing. And that’s the type of quarterback that’s gonna come into the league, and I think eventually that’s gonna be the pro-type quarterback.” – JOHN MADDEN
NEXT TIME I SAY SOMETHING YOU HATERS BETTER WRITE IT DOWN. RGIII is the wave of the future and the nfl qb will never be the same again!!!
BOOK IT
October 17th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
@22 Carson Russell is the wave of the future ! He is a little slower than RG3 but has better accuracy and is a better leader !
October 17th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Carson Palmer is the man. He is not a problem area 4 this team. those that believe so are mentally challenged and therefore no further arguing is needed .
October 17th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
more must watch tv this weekend seattle vs the niners.
the niners were manhandled and alex smith fell apart. the defense was embarrassed and im certain they will be coming after young star in the making russel wilson. The niners will try and stop lynch and it will be up to wilson and his receivers to maske some plays down field.
The niners offense will look to return to form but it will be tough against the stingy and underrated seahawk defense. they can flat out bring the heat and running is nearly impossible. the niners will need chunk yardge as trying to drive 80 plus yards and 10 play drives are very difficult against this elite defense.
This game features 2 mobile qbs that will have to make plays on the edge and on the scramble. the qb that makes the fewest mistakes will get the win.
This will be an old school defensive battle, think 1986 giants vs bears.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Alright, so it seems this blog is mostly about who on our team is playing crappy or who on other teams are playing great…. Damned shame…
I mean I critize some things (like Knapp and enforcing a scheme that isn’t fitting the best playmakers we have). But, if you’d list players that are playing well…who would that be?
Moore, Palmer, Wheeler…who else?
October 17th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Has the NFL set any rules about how many concussions a player can have in a year?
Is two a year acceptable? Or is that one too many?
October 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
DHB has had one in each of the past two years that I know of and he is barely 25
October 17th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Nobody asked about the full zone prevent to allow a HOF TE be wide open to end the game?
FULL ZONE? Not one person playing M2M and rushing only 3?
No thoughts of playing M2M on a HOF TE at the end of the game?
This was almost as stupid as McClain covering Megatron last year in a zone.
And nobody asked why there is never any no-huddle?
Cmon Cork! Do your JOB!
October 17th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I think all the players are improving especially as a team. They have bought into what the DA is selling
Its all free bubble up and rainbow stew from here on
October 17th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
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Put McFadden back in a scheme he’s comfortable in and he’ll shine. Keep him in a scheme that he’s hesitant about…and he looks…well, hesitant.
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This is another piece of misinformation. The reason for the Zone system is any back can go in there and be successful. The leading rusher in the NFL the last few years was not even drafted. Dungver came out of nowhere in the late 90’s because of a RB they pulled in the 6th or 7th round with this same system. To say McFadden is not a match is like saying Adrian Peterson couldn’t run in this system. Those guys should be able to excel in ANY system. If for some reason they can’t, something is wrong with them, not the system.
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Nope – there are backs which are better suited for it. And, often they aren’t the same as the Adrian Peterson’s or the Darren McFadden’s.
Just like there are O-Linemen better suited for zone blocking, and they often get drafted much later or not at all because they don’t posess the same characteristics.
Like we drafted the “best” Zone Blocking line-man in the draft last year in the 3rd round.
The ONLY difference I can think of between McFadden years early on, the 2 years in between and now is the schemes. He FLOURISHED under Hue and actually struggled before.
Look at blogs from 3 years ago…it was “Mcfell down”. Hesitant guy. Slow. Then see when he got comfortable and he hit the hole hard and had no hesitation and plowed over or around defensive players.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I dont think the system has as much to do with it as his cycle on and off between known test periods. Hopefully he will be cycling on this week
October 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Good post Cork. Hope we spoil MJD’s liittle homecoming.he’s right tho, NapKauf was a badd@ss!
October 17th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
palmer is right to call this a must win game, he knows that he must win and the team must win in order to justify him being here next year.
We must keep in mind the price we paid for him and the purpose for his signing.
Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs last year, he failed. i think it was unrealistic to expect him to dot that given the circumstance.
He must win or he can kiss the playoffs good bye again, (really it is already too late in my opinion). The trade will be deemed an even bigger flop if he cant lead us to the playoffs this year because he has no excuses, and that is why we gave up draft picks and a huge salary.
Palmer is feeling the pressure and he is right
October 17th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I do love how romac has been phased out, i dont believ what they are selling about his conditioning being the reason.
Romac is playing his way right into official draft bust status, and smooth out of town.
good riddance
October 17th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Funniest post(s) of the day:
1. “Its all free bubble up and rainbow stew from here on…”
2. “After several drafts I turn into a boar hunter….”
October 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Romac’s conditioning has ALWAYS been suspect/called to question…
October 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Mistic has now joined the ranks of Sullivan and breech as the most repetitive and idiotic posters on this blog.
Sullivan is a psychotic anti-raider, unbelievably predictable in always saying the raiders suck.
Beech is a twisted pervert constantly posting the same ridiculous fantasy and never talks raiders at all.
And mystic is a broken record, obsessed with black qb’s being “the wave of the future” and comically touts anything stat he can find to show it, but yet will ignore those stats when they disprove it.
All of them need help.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Peytons Brain Says:
Allen said that Palmer is doing just fine and that he doesn’t have any intention of taking a look at Pryor in the near future.
“We’ve got a quarterback that plays extremely well and we’ve been very pleased with the way Carson’s played in football games,” Allen said.
If your coach is this STUPID the Raiders are going to have back to back 4-12 season until his big t!tty @ss is fired!!! lol=================Happy Carson Palmer Day. One year anniversary tomorrow.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Mistic has now joined the ranks of Sullivan and breech as the most repetitive and idiotic posters on this blog.
Sullivan is a psychotic anti-raider, unbelievably predictable in always saying the raiders suck.
Beech is a twisted pervert constantly posting the same ridiculous fantasy and never talks raiders at all.
And mystic is a broken record, obsessed with black qb’s being “the wave of the future” and comically touts anything stat he can find to show it, but yet will ignore those stats when they disprove it.
All of them need help.
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lol upset about what madden said about the wave of the future?
hahahahahahahahaha
too funny
October 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Dr Rob
Your doing a great job of letting everyone know how crazy they are. Keep up the great work
October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
JLofty Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Romac’s conditioning has ALWAYS been suspect/called to question…
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true but everyone raved about his conditioning going into camp this season remember?
he just hasnt been very good. In fact he made me a victim up the instant upgrade theory when he replaced captain kirk and then flopped.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
So how many concussions are acceptable?
Mystic, any ideas?
October 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Maybe Romac can earn his way outta the doghouse this weekend with a fine run-stuffing performance against MJD…
We need to get touchdowns, not FGs and put up some points in this game.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Interesting that there were no changes on offense.
Adams cracked the starting lineup at CB, and Burris gets more snaps in the nickel. Not to mention Wheeler taking over as QB.
No criner or Bergstrom on O?
October 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
So how many concussions are acceptable?
-varies WIDELY by individual. And the determination of which is not known for MANY years later….
October 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Mystic–not at all dummy. He’s right about griffin. Exciting player. Love him. But I didn’t notice madden following it up with raving about every fuxking black qb known to man and finding asinine resins for white qb’s sucking. Ur obsessed. It’s all u ever talk about and it’s a joke. U are obviously “pro black” to a ridiculously absurd degree. Ur like a black panther caricature. U read a couple books. Malcolm x. Marcus Garvey. Etc. ur daily rant is just stupid.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Burris is faster than RoMac. Don’t expect to see 55 back on passing downs.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
42.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
JLofty Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Romac’s conditioning has ALWAYS been suspect/called to question…
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true but everyone raved about his conditioning going into camp this season remember?
he just hasnt been very good. In fact he made me a victim up the instant upgrade theory when he replaced captain kirk and then flopped.
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Funny, remember the same could have been said about Morrison v. Danny Clark. Clark ended up playing some pretty good ball after he left oakland.
Also Mistic, you don’t think the Crohn’s disease has any bearing on McClain? In seems that Athletes with Crohn’s diesease have to work a lot harder than the other guys do due to the symptons. It seems like Garrard as a QB would have it easier than a LB with the same disease. I.e. it is not recommened to lift heavy weights.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Plunkethead–u are notorious for actually liking beech’s fantasies about his and your weiners, his and your pubes and nads, and his and your dumps. You are entertained by semi-veiled homo erotic tales repeated ad nauseous on a raiders blog. U actually consider urself one of his gang and hurry to defend him like a little toadie. So……there u go.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
“– Strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler now is the one on defense wearing the helmet fitted with the radio linked to defensive coordinator Jason Tarver.”
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Ahhh, sweet music to my ears.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Mistic, for the record I don’t have any issue with your “Wave of The Future Qb”. Who wouldn’t want to there Qb to be able to make plays with his feet. I just feel that you are quick to pit a black QB on a peddle stool. I rarely hear you say anything about ponder, Luck. And ur ridicules man love for Wilson.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
44.JLofty Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Maybe Romac can earn his way outta the doghouse this weekend with a fine run-stuffing performance against MJD…
We need to get touchdowns, not FGs and put up some points in this game.
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Only if he can put a concussion-hit on MJD like he did on Darrin Sproles…if pocket hercules gets an angle, RoMac will be jogging…
October 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Mystic–not at all dummy. He’s right about griffin. Exciting player. Love him. But I didn’t notice madden following it up with raving about every fuxking black qb known to man and finding asinine resins for white qb’s sucking.
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this is what YOU see when YOU read my post. That says more about you than anything else.
If talking about qbs boils down to skin color for YOU then it is YOU that have the issue.
sorry bra, thats not my bag, i refuse to carry it
October 17th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Dang, Deathro, lost his position and got the taken out of his helmet. The writing is on the wall
October 17th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
da trinity Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Mistic, for the record I don’t have any issue with your “Wave of The Future Qb”. Who wouldn’t want to there Qb to be able to make plays with his feet. I just feel that you are quick to pit a black QB on a peddle stool. I rarely hear you say anything about ponder, Luck. And ur ridicules man love for Wilson.
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i dont pit white qbs vs anyone else, that is what people here say that i do because they cant come to grips with the changing face of the qb position.
I dont think ponder is very good, he was exposed last weekend. he is mistake prone and i didnt even think he was the best qb on his team. i also didnt think he was very good at FSU, i though manual was a far better player. He was mistake prone in college and also had injury issues.
Luck i have talked about several times, he is a very solid prospect. i thought he was very good in college, and he was number 2 on my qb board, ahead of wilson because of his size.
Why do the guys that i like to follow have to include guys that you or others like to follow? Am i not allowed to have my own preference of player or style of play?
luck wilson rgIII and newton are the four best qbs to come in in years and they will be carrying the torch when brady brees and the mnannings are gone
October 17th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
49.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
42.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
JLofty Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Romac’s conditioning has ALWAYS been suspect/called to question…
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true but everyone raved about his conditioning going into camp this season remember?
he just hasnt been very good. In fact he made me a victim up the instant upgrade theory when he replaced captain kirk and then flopped.
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Funny, remember the same could have been said about Morrison v. Danny Clark. Clark ended up playing some pretty good ball after he left oakland.
Also Mistic, you don’t think the Crohn’s disease has any bearing on McClain? In seems that Athletes with Crohn’s diesease have to work a lot harder than the other guys do due to the symptons. It seems like Garrard as a QB would have it easier than a LB with the same disease. I.e. it is not recommened to lift heavy weights.
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I think its “damaged goods”, and it isnt the first time
Robert Gallery, JaMarcus Russell (narcolepsy) as well as Barret Robbins (bipolar disorder) didnt get redflagged during the lead up to draft – MUST do a better job on the health/background/psych evals on draft picks
October 17th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
U may not carry that bag mistic, but you sure as hell rock it like a hat
October 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
da trinity Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
U may not carry that bag mistic, but you sure as hell rock it like a hat
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again if people feel more comfortable by trying to fit me into their perception of me that is on them.
you will never find any thing here that i have ever written saying black qbs are better than white, i dont feel that way.
you must have skipped over my post on eli manning, joe montana, john elway, and jim plunkett.
I think these guys are awesome and none of them are black
October 17th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Mistic– nice try. Everyone on here sees it. I don’t know how or why u would even dare to deny it. The only qb’s u ever rave about are black. U claim its about athletic multi-tool sets. But u never rave about ponder or tannehill or any white qb’s that have the same qualities.
Additionally, u stick by all black qb’s, no matter how bad they’re playing, like newton and Wilson. And Wilson doesn’t even really fit ur profile anyway but u still love him.
And u deride all whit qb’s other than saying guys like Rodgers and Brady are good, which is obvious. U never tout any other white qb’s. putting down Palmer and saying he’s on his way out and the raiders would be better off with Pryor, who is so raw it’s ridiculous, just borders on showing u have no insight regarding football at all. Ur only platform is black qb’s, black qb’s, black qb’s.
Tannehill was a really good wr in college. He has more athleticism than Wilson for sure. You have said nothing about him.
Here’s one for u: who’s the better notre dame qb? Folsom or Rees? If u say golson, it’s a joke. But he fits ur profile better.
Btw, ur hero should be Steve young. Best combo of passer and runner ever. And probably the best qb of all time period. Lets hear u rant about him for awhile.
Truth is this is nothing new. Athletic qb’s have been around forever. Tarkington, Douglass, Cunningham. But nfl people, besides being a little racist, have determined passing ability trumps athletic ability. If they’re athletic too, then awesome. But it’s rare for a good runner to also be a good runner. U can’t force it.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Palmer? What do any of the team leaders have to say? Nobody cares what this fossil, soon to be cut QB thinks.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
And, we will beat Jags, because clearly Allen and Knapp will keep the game out of Carson Campbell’s hands. In fact, if they keep the ball out of Carson Campbell’s hands the rest of the season, we have a standing chance at 9-7.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Doc rob
I have never ever mentioned weinies or anything to do with BM’s.
You on the other hand are fixated on righting the wrongs of said weinies and BM’s. You actually troll as gaylovedude and are three times as annoying as the “trolls” you battle against.
But have fun
thats what the blog is for
October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Allen’s orders to Knapp are simple. No more than 10 passing plays. Carson Campbell will throw away no more games for us.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Pryor is faster then RG3 n bigger. I went back and watch both runs.. PRYOR was faster on that detroit run then Rg3 was on sun
October 17th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Speaking of beech was that him and the boys with drew brees in the pepsi commercial?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Could be possible that Allen and Knapp sabotage Carson Campbell, call some plays likely to result in INTs, as an excuse to sub Leneirt or Pryor in for him. Wouldn’t be a bad idea. Only shot at playoffs. Only shot.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Can Pryor pass like RG3?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Mistic–do u have anything to say other than ur daily worship of “athletic (black) quarterbacks”?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
“Not that early in the game,” Allen said. “A 58-yarder against that offense, your percentages, even though Sebastian is very capable of kicking a 58-yarder, I’ve got all the confidence in the world in Sebastian kicking a 58-yarder, but in that situation against that team, my decision was, it was the right thing to do to try to pin them back and make them go the long way.”
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Actually coach, it’s the WRONG thing to do, since you know, we lost by 3 points. You win by being aggressive. Playing cautious doesn’t work anymore
October 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
After watching Carson Campbell I too lean toward only supporting black quarterbacks. Carson is ruining it for the white man.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
JaMarcus Russell wouldn’t have thrown that pass to Samuel.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Sully Carson will give you nightmares for the next three years.
He is going playing at close to an elite level and will improve 30% when DMAC takes off.
PROBOWL for CP3
October 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Boston College is known for athletic quarterbacks.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Mistic– nice try. Everyone on here sees it. I don’t know how or why u would even dare to deny it. The only qb’s u ever rave about are black. U claim its about athletic multi-tool sets. But u never rave about ponder or tannehill or any white qb’s that have the same qualities.
Additionally, u stick by all black qb’s, no matter how bad they’re playing, like newton and Wilson. And Wilson doesn’t even really fit ur profile anyway but u still love him.
And u deride all whit qb’s other than saying guys like Rodgers and Brady are good, which is obvious. U never tout any other white qb’s.
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dr,rob saying because you say it often doent make it any more true.
1. I have given my take on luck solid prospect number 2 on my draft board.
2. you dont get to decide for me who my all time best qb is, it was joe montana by the way, news flash not black.
3. sorry but the only qb on your list that compares with the wave of the futreu is cuninham but by the time he learned to beat teams from the pocket he wasnt the same athelete. Again though you dont have to agree with john madden like i do.
4. This is what i just posted today about another non black qb ELI MANNING
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Game of the week redskins vs giants.
This is RGIII’s first taste of division play, the nfc east is loaded with big fast pass rushers and some very good qbs. I am interested to see how he handles this going against the class of the division and one of the best qbs of this generation and sure hall of fame qb eli mannning.
Eli manning is one of my favorite qbs to watch. he isnt always pretty, and he isnt flashy, but he is very tough minded, and money in the clutch. In fact if i had one drive to win a game no matter the circumstance i would pick eli to lead it. eli is unique in that he is just as good in ball control as he is in up tempo no huddle, and he very very good in both areas. he is fun to watch when he is on, and that is most of the time.
The fact that he survived early adversity caused by inconsistent play, and went on not only to thrive but win multiple superbowls both in incredible story book fashion has earned my respect and i admire his style.
he could be the guy that screams and yell but he likes to lead by example, and doesnt care to show up his own team mates when something goes wrong.
he is the perfect drop back qb, that can find a way to beat you when things ar not going well.
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SORRY FOLKS BUT RACE OF THE QB DOESNT MATTER TO ME THE WAY IT CLEARLY MATTERS TO YOU.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
plunketthead, Carson Campbell isn’t even going to finish the season as a starter. Pro bowl. That’s hilarious.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Plunkethead– I troll as who? That’s funny. U don’t post about weiners and dumps but u know who does constantly and u run to defend him anytime someone disses him. Coming down as a beeech boy speaks volumes about u. But u go ahead and eat up his weiner talk all u want pal. U apparently like it. I, on the other hand, like to point out how gay he really is. If u support gay talk on here, perhaps there are other blogs that might suit u better.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
KK Munster, did you see Romney TKO purple lips?
lmao
October 17th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
plunkethead, after we lose 2 out of our next 3 against easy opponents thanks to what will probably be a combined 7 interceptions against KC and TB, Carson Campbell is holding a clip board. It’s Leinert time.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Mistic–do u have anything to say other than ur daily worship of “athletic (black) quarterbacks”?
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learn to read then look for yourself.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Every game is a must win game! That’s the mentality a team needs ! We should be undefeated !
October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Romney won’t even do as good as McCain. 0bama is running the worst campaign of his life and he’ll still beat Romney because Romney is the kind of guy even his own family doesn’t like.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Haha, keep defending your racist trash, Mistic.
Watch out folks, we’ve got Mr. Cool Guy here. “bra” this, “bra” that.
You can keep wasting everyone’s time with the racist garbage and the “cool guy” talk, or you could just shut your mouth. Might save you from looking even more foolish.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
MR, just keep repeating what Jon Stewart and Maher tell you. I will have the last laugh Nov 6
October 17th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
JaMarcus Russell wouldn’t have thrown that pass to Samuel.============Well, this is true. It would have been badly underthrown.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Haha, keep defending your racist trash, Mistic.
Watch out folks, we’ve got Mr. Cool Guy here. “bra” this, “bra” that.
You can keep wasting everyone’s time with the racist garbage and the “cool guy” talk, or you could just shut your mouth. Might save you from looking even more foolish.
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saying eli manning is one of the best qbs of this generation is racist?
gtfoh
i dont need anyone approval or permission to post if you dont like too fuggin bad folks
October 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
im out, have met exceeded my patience for these racist dummies
October 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
MB, isn’t it sad for republicans that two comedians are smarter political reporters than their hacks at Fox?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Sullivan–everyone here can’t stand u and as u know, I’m no exception. But in the past u have tried to cover ur anti-raiders nonsense with arguments that at least were in the neighborhood of sane. They were always laced with lies and manipulation (saying the raiders sucked for 30years, conveniently skipping over the gruden years and shells first tenure) but they bordered in lucidity. We hated u mainly for being a giant dick who for some reason spent ur free time on a teams board that u hate. It was psychotic but u were consistent.
But this latest Palmer stuff is beneath even u. Anyone with any sort of brain sees that Palmer is the best player on the team. He won’t throw 10 times. More like 40. He is going to he facing a lot of weak defenses coming up and will likely end up with 400/25/12 or something like that, making u look even more idiotic than ever.
Ur just making urself look stupid and I know u like to seem smart. So find another angle. This one is laughable. U have always got off on trying to dig at raiders fans by targeting guys that had some easy criticisms, just to use half truths to bug us. But this one holds zero water and is making u look desperate.
By the way, ur an azzhole.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Sully has his dukes up tonight
Like I said nightmares for you MR as
CP rolls for 300 plus yards plus 2 TD more often then not this year
Bets player on the team
October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
That pass to Samuel, Russell never throws it in his life. Russell has serious drug problems, that’s what plagues him. Even he knows not to force that pass. Carson Campbell is drug free and as far as anyone knows, doesn’t have a drinking problem, and he’s still one of those dumbest quarterbacks ever. Undoubtedly the dumbest in the league today.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
im out, have met exceeded my patience for these racist dummies.=========And exceeded the patience of the rest of us. Rest up, tomorrow is another day.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Dr. Robert, nobody is going to read that comment. Only proven geniuses can write long like that. You can read that yourself 20 times over. Nobody else will. Sorry you wasted your time.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
“When we went back and looked and saw how many plays that Rolando was playing, it had a factor in his conditioning,” –TRANSLATION: HE’S A LAZY FIRST ROUND BUST. WHEELER RULES!
October 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Plunketthead,
Carson Campbell is a retard in clutch situations. He can beef up his stats for mommy and fan boys like you all he wants. He will fail in the clutch. That’s why the Bengals didn’t want him. And he’s done nothing in Oakland to convince the Bengals they made a bad choice.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Beechams Gay Lover Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
beechy is 37 and lives with his mom. he got fired from his job at olive garden a few months back because he got caught blowing this kid Jairo one of the dishwashers out back. but most of the time he spends over at antoines. antoine is a bear if you know the type. antoine is always aksking me for viagra because beechy dawg just cant get it done
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Gay Lover,
I often wondered why Beeechy referenced the Olive Garden as much as he did: he worked there, until being fired. Olive Garden is a pseudo-Italian restaurant, IMO, mediocre in quality, with relatively high prices.
Beeechy seemed to love it and often bragged of taking his “possee” there.
And btw, Beeechy seems in his early 20’s and not 37.
I wonder about Antoine; who is he? Why can’t Beeechy get it done with him. Don’t you resent that Beeechy goes to him and not to you ?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Romney won’t even do as good as McCain. 0bama is running the worst campaign of his life and he’ll still beat Romney because Romney is the kind of guy even his own family doesn’t like.
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u must be starved for attn because there could be no other explanation.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Mistic–so do tell me who these qb’s that are currently in the nfl are that are the big wave of the future u love to talk about. I know about newton, griffin, wilson (laughable at this stage). Any others? Vick? He’s been around for awhile and has had very mixed results, and there is a lot of talk of benching him. Hard to say he’s really part of any new wave, old as he is. Any others?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
C2E, it’s true. Even people who plan on voting for Romney (basically partisan Republicans, and that’s it) are annoyed by him. Nobody likes him. Not even his supporters.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Carson Campbell doesn’t even have a future in Canadian football. If the Raiders let Carson go right now, nobody would sign him. No NFL teams. No Canada teams. World league. Nothing. He’s out of football.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Any fan down on CP3 doesn’t know what they’re talking about or has a racist agenda. Palmer has been the best player on the team this year, by far.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Sullivan–everyone here can’t stand u and as u know, I’m no exception. But in the past u have tried to cover ur anti-raiders nonsense with arguments that at least were in the neighborhood of sane. They were always laced with lies and manipulation (saying the raiders sucked for 30years, conveniently skipping over the gruden years and shells first tenure)
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I don’t know Sully at all except to say that he lives in “Suckramento” and seems frustrated about it.
Sully is correct that the Raiders have sucked for the past 30 yrs, due to the degenerative and diseased mind of AD.
Even during the Gruden years, pyscho-sick AD could stand the fact that Gruden was garnering more attention than AD, so sacked him.
Those are the facts. Sully has stated the facts correctly.
Btw, during those 30 disgraceful and disease mind filled yrs, whenever AL came out of any restroom, he always had a wet spot on the front of his pants……Go figure.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
couldn’t ***** stand the fact
October 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
IMO the next 3 are all prob must-wins.
We’ll see what Dennis Allen is made of here. Win all three and I’ll be impressed and maybe hopeful. Lose one and I’ll be skeptical. Win 1 or none and it’s time to start interviewing new coaches for next year.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Carson Campbell the best player on the Raiders? That must explain the 1-4 record.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Sullivan–obviously u ready it and had no comeback whatsoever so u claimed not to read it. I have always made u look ridiculous and u have always tried to ignore me as much as possible simply because I have ur number completely. But I know u wont stop we all do. It’s what makes u the psychotic loser u are.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Golden Jew, did you go off your meds again.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
lol. “suckramento”. Where do you live, in a penthouse overlooking central park? Or some crappy part of the bay area where you can’t even leave your house without getting shot?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Dr. Robert,
I didn’t read it because it was too long. Who do you thin you are to where anyone is going to take up actual time reading some 4 paragraph essay by you? I can tell by your short comments you’re not a talented writer. So why waste my time with the long ones? Know your place and shorten your comments, you child.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
tisk tisk, Sully. That’s a bit harsh and condescending…
October 17th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
I think C2E and Robert are the same person. Both trying to act all smart, getting emotional.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
“Not that early in the game,” Allen said. “A 58-yarder against that offense, your percentages, even though Sebastian is very capable of kicking a 58-yarder, I’ve got all the confidence in the world in Sebastian kicking a 58-yarder, but in that situation against that team, my decision was, it was the right thing to do to try to pin them back and make them go the long way.”
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= no faith in the D
= no faith in SeaBass
= not good coaching
= if not for the int., that reckoning woulda backfired.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
You guys are such geniuses. I’ve always been niners all the way, you all were just too stupid to see it.
I like winners…period.
My niner hat fits well thank you.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
lol. “suckramento”. Where do you live, in a penthouse overlooking central park? Or some crappy part of the bay area where you can’t even leave your house without getting shot?
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Nah, I live on the Marina Del Rey Strand, one block from the beach. Someone even sneezes wrong here and LAPD is there within a blink of an eye.
I can see the Ritz-Carlton from my 2 story bedroom – Beeechy’s imaginary domicile.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
No faith in the D. lol. Allen’s a defensive coach. It’s his D genius.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
– Someone that won’t be getting an opportunity to show what he can do anytime soon is second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor.
Allen said that Palmer is doing just fine and that he doesn’t have any intention of taking a look at Pryor in the near future.
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This does not surprise me.
Try as I might to look for the positives about TITS, I can’t overlook the stuff that leads me to conclude he’s a dickhead that’s leading this team nowhere.
Obviously, the hiring of KRAPP and the insistence on rapidly transitioning to an almost exclusive use of the ZBS has been an IMMENSE FAILURE.
Gentlemen, we’re approaching the 6th week of the season, and the assclowns KRAPP&TITS are still talking about eventually getting the ZBS system down and seeing results.
THIS IS COMICAL AND COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
Incomprehensible that a staff can expect to piss away a third of the season, still not have it right, and not get booted the fk out of town.
Then you add in the fact that your best offensive player probably doesn’t like, and isn’t suited for, the ZBS – and you know there’s a real problem with this HC.
Then you add in TITS/KRAPP not using Reese enough as Corky mentioned – and you know there’s a problem.
Then you add in the refusal to even activate TP and put a wildcat play or two into the languishing offense – and you know there’s a problem.
Then you add in the refusal to give Taiwan a single carry or touch after the botched reverse wk 1 (which wasn’t even TJ’s fault) – and you know there’s a problem.
The assclown combo of TITS&KRAPP has effectively DESTROYED what was once a very competent offense by insisting on switching to a system that is not best suited to the personnel we have, not implementing it in a timely and effective manner, and by refusing to use the weapons we have on hand to maximum advantage.
TITS has done some good things, it hasn’t been a total washout – but the CALAMITY that he and KRAPP have wrought on offense – leads me to believe that the guy in need of a training bra should stick to being a DC and isn’t nearly ready to be a HC.
This team is going to have to somehow overcome the handicap of KRAPP’s incompetence as an OC, and TITTY BOY being in way over his breasts.
SMASH THE JAGS.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
nah, its just me. i don’t cross post but your tone is hauntingly familiar with MR and a few others…Chris NY, what do you think?
October 17th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Fickle Faider Fans. You all love Knapp, then you hate him. You love CP, then want him gone. Quick to forgive, then quickly hate again.
That’s why you are Raider fans. Gluttons for punishment, with no return on your investment.
I think Bob is right.
Change the channel, and lets watch a real team play.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
My second guess was going to be that you lived in some gay part of LA. Thanks for the correction, RaidersOne.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Oh Sully. Mr. Bipolar, poor poor fool. Talk to me about those posts, man. I’m trying to take you seriously here.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Ewwwwwwuuuuu….to each his own. It’s not my lifestyle.
That’s Beeechy’s thing.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Dr. Robert, nobody is going to read that comment. Only proven geniuses can write long like that. You can read that yourself 20 times over. Nobody else will. Sorry you wasted your time.
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I read it and I agree with him. You are a total dik. You have a horrible, unsavory personality and definitely the most hated guy on this blog.
It doesn’t take a lot of talent or smarts to be as much of a dik as you are.
Congrats…jerk.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Uh, maybe it’s because I am MR, and have said so a thousand times over? One of you chumps went on some campaign crying to the mods to get me banned because I wouldn’t be a fanboy and support Al like you, and they finally caved in. Guess there were boycott threats? lol. Guess some of you really have a crush on me. Anyhow, this is the name I use now. I’m MR. Always admitted that, Mr. Detective. Good work. lol.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
There are 3 people posting under one name right now:
C2E,
Doctor Hunter
And Doctor Rob
Same emotional punk. You can pick it up in the comments.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Go on the niners blog and make your “we” comments. You aren’t a raiders fan and only a weirdo like you woul act like u are a fan.
Good luck to your niners and please leave. Nobody likes you jerk face.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
And I believe he does live in Marina Del Ray, probably as some sort of house attendant for a gay lover.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
SUP SUP BRAH, NERDS AND GOO GOO GOOBERS
Just got back from a fly victory party in honor of the CHARGERS takin it to the mules. As yawl know, Chargers owned the mules and peyton manning. We had hot babes doin the victory dance in the raw. Chargers OWN Monday Night Football. Get Ova It.
After droppin a foot long lawg in the toilet, I reached over for the weiner wax to shine my 12 inch lawg. It was awesome.
Now after a long day of Charger partay, you know its time to soak the Nads in some Malibu Rum. My posse will be gettin that on video while hand jivin to our rockin tunes. Holla
But first I’ll drop another lawg and bust a nut simultaniously. Will catch that on video too.
JUST KEEPIN IT REALZ, BRIZZLE DRIZZLE
October 17th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Sucked for 30 years? What idiocy. They won their division. Went to the Super Bowl. Had the league MVP. Some people just love to be stupid. It’s why they come here. They know they can post whatever they want with no retribution. Most of these d1cks would get their azzes kicked on a daily basis in the real world if they spoke up so they come here to release their frustrations. Instead of stopping being d1cks and possibly making a friend, they revel in misery here.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Yeah, you know about the real world, Robert. Living as a house sitter with a gay guy in Marina Del Ray. you’re like Kato Catlin, except not as masculine.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
The Prediction Board:
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
303Raider Says: falcons 31 Raiders 17
AmysInCharge Says: Atlanta 54 Oakland 7
Area man Says: 45-3, not the Raiders.
arkraider Says: Raiders 27-Dirty Birds 23
blackandsilverside Says: Atlanta 41 Raiders 14
Custom Raider Says: Oakland 38 Atlanta 10
davidon Says: ATL 35 Raiders 10
GG Says: Falcons 35 Raiders 13 or if by the grace of ethereal forces we compete Raiders 27 Falcons 24
JLofty Says: Raiders 31 – Falcones 27
Kiwi_Blade Says: Raiders 6 Falcons 32
Klas Tjorborn Says: Falcons 35, Raiders 20
Plunketthead Says: Raiders 37-35
PlunkforHOF Says: My beloved Raiders 31 Cuckolds 28 wait for it……in OT!
qodrn Raiders 27 Atlanta 24
Raidergil650 Says: RAIDERS WIN 27-24!
Raider O Says: Raiders 30 Falcons 27
RaiderRockstar Says: Raiders 37 Falcons 35
realtruraider Says: Raiders 34 Drunken Chickens 24
Zwarte Piet Says: Malosos 20 Halcones 13…
October 17th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Yeah, you know about the real world, Robert. Living as a house sitter with a gay guy in Marina Del Ray. you’re like Kato Catlin, except not as masculine.
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SUP WHITH DAT? Kato was masculine. WHOOOOAAAAA babe, I always thought Kato was a tad on the effeminette train. Always thought that was why he was so rad with the boys. Sure coulda fooled me.
FOSHIZZLE ON MY BAHIZZLE
October 17th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Raiders 20, Jags 10, because Allen and Knapp will keep the ball out of Carson Campbell’s hands.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Sully/MR- you like being picked on, attention monger.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says: Then you add in TITS/KRAPP not using Reese enough as Corky mentioned – and you know there’s a problem.=============Did we read the same post? “There’s no way of knowing how many times Palmer wanted to throw to Reece but opted for another receiver.” Because he’s getting interfered with and definitely keyed on by opposing defenses.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
C2E, life will become a lot easier for you when you just admit to yourself you’re not one of the smart people of the world.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Sullivan44 Says: There are 3 people posting under one name right now:===========So… would that be reverse cross posting?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Sorry Sullivan. I post under one name only. I was rob raider until I was banned and am now dr Robert. Never change handles. That’s ur deal. U just are trying to pretend there aren’t three people on here telling u what a punk u are.
So u lie and tell me u dint read my post cuz I’m too dumb of a poster but then u say me and another guy are trying to act smart. Sounds fairly contradictory. But that never stopped u.
We all know ur mr. That’s not a secret. The question is why u continue to spend ur life here.
U can say all u want about al davis.
Ur the truly pathetic one.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Your logic chip is overheating, GoldenJew.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Sully, it’s hard to imagine that we share a Raiders allegiance, but i’m not convinced that yours is genuine.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Ur saying I live in marina del Rey blah blah blah. At least make fun if me with something drawn from what I’ve posted. I mean I could just randomly say ur a gay guy from Greenwich village and u like to give head to midgets. Actually that’s kinda funny. I can’t help myself. But it wouldn’t have any connection to u. So not very clever. I can comment on ur pathetic life and ur desire to be insulted. That makes sense. Understand?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
The Prediction Board:
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
qodrn: Raiders 27, Jags 20
Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10
October 17th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Maybe I am strange, but I think the loss goes to the defense for not holding the Falcons on the last drive. They went through the Raiders like tissue paper.
I also blame the pink shoes. How can you look game ready in cute pink shoes?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Everyone please IGNORE Sullivan44. He is a cancer to the blog. Granted, he will switch his handle, but the spew in his posts will be easily identifiable.
Everyone join me.
SCROLL THE TROLL 2012
October 17th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Palmer calls Jaguars game ‘must-win” The Raiders and Jaguars are 1-4, with their seasons on the line this Sunday. Already, things don’t bode well for both teams, given only seven out of the 156 teams that started 1-4 since 1978 made it to the playoffs that season, according to STA… [...]
October 17th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Raiders 30-17
October 17th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Then you add to fact, that he’s put Palmer into a system that’s……not his strong suit, which is slinging the ball.
The Raiders have a nice passing game going on stat wise, but its not producing TD’s or big plays.
They’ve had 2 passing plays over 40yd so far, 2nd to last. 18th in passes over 20yds. And, the running game is not working.i
What does that tell you?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
When the Detroit Tigers finish playing ball this year, whenever that is, I do believe if they are bored as a group, there are a number of college and maybe even a few NFL teams they could take on and beat.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Anyone miss the NHL besides my nephew?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Soccer on ice? Not a fan.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
qodrn1 Says:
Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10================You might want to hold off on that. Sully’s off his meds tonight.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Even though I’m one of the guiltiest parties, I do believe the board would be much healthier if we collectively ignored Sullivan and beeech. Anti-raiders and semi-veiled homo eroticism are not welcome. They are here for attention. When they post, they eagerly wait to see who they can get a rise from. It will give them fits if they’re ignored. I pledge to ignore them. Lets see if we can this going. Sullivan will definitely change handles and try to get veiled anti-raider threads going. But they’re easy to sniff out.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Dr. I’ll try, but it’s so tempting to poke the bear and get him all flustered.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Yes. That’s how I get drawn in. But they operate a weird level. They’re the weird kind if bear that likes being poked. It turns them on. Have u ever seen the type if dude who gets aroused when he gets punched? It’s fuming bizarre but it exists. That’s them. They hurt more when they’re ignored. Actually it’s likely they were ignored a lot as children and that’s why seek attention in any way they can get it.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
who is with me on this? I could care a rats ass about a coach throwing a player under the bus in front of the media. that same player has no problems win he gets praise in front of the media imo it should work both ways.
if you get MILLIONS TO PLAY A GAME shouldnt you be able to handle a lil criticism. and if you were a player on a team and a certain guy lets say MCCLAIN who is in the dogghouse with just about everyone in here is fcking up all season and the coach throws him under the bus in front of the media and Mcclain says “I dont want to play for this guy anymore he talked bad about me in front of the media” as a teamate of his how would you feel? Me I would say suck it and play better and maybe you wont get talked about and if you cant handle it while your getting paid your MILLIONS get the fck out dont want you on my team anyway. does that sound so bad?
your thoughts Nation?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Dr. I’m with ya. I have to admit that I get a charge out of it but will refrain. Ban his azz.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
McClain has been served his wake-up call East. He chooses not to answer then so be it.
Allen is done with his nonsense.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
McClain is clearly out. 17 plays. His headset given to wheeler. Curry coming back. DA said its not changing back. They never say this stuff about a top pick. If they have plans for him, they continue to support him publicly. It’s very likely he’s traded in the next two weeks. There are teams in need of linebackers. In the offseason there will be free agents to choose from. Some team might give us a conditional 5th-6th for him. That would be a steal. Cuz he will be out of football in 9 months.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Trollin these waters for big fish is just like sitting on the toilet waiting for that lawg to drop but never happens because the back door is to small for that monster sized deuce to drop. Holla Yawl.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
21.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
“He would scare the heck out of me,” Pro Football Hall of Famer John Madden said of RGIII on SiriusXM’s NFL Radio. (Audio here.) “I’ll tell you, any coach, any team, any defense, the one thing that you fear is speed – whether that guy is a running back that could break loose, whether he’s a wide receiver that could get over the top or if he’s a quarterback that can run like this guy.
“Did you see him last week?” Madden continued. “I mean, go down the sideline? I have never, in the history of football, I have never seen a quarterback ever run that fast. I know that that’s what the Giants are thinking. I mean, they’re looking at that and they’re saying, whoo, or wow, or we can’t let that guy do that to us. So that takes a lot away from your defense, whether it’s real or imagined.
“A lot of time in life we defend ghosts,” he continued. “You saw something a week ago and you’re still out there holding your ground. When he hands off inside, you’re waiting for him to run around the end. So I think that’s going to be a problem with the Giants this week, real and imagined: They’re going to have to worry about him. You have to worry about his throwing, and you have to worry about him as a quarterback, and then doggone, the thing that would scare me most about him really is that speed.”-
our beloved super bowl winning iconic former head coach hall of fame inductee JOHN MADDEN
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– Someone that won’t be getting an opportunity to show what he can do anytime soon is second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor.
Allen said that Palmer is doing just fine and that he doesn’t have any intention of taking a look at Pryor in the near future.
“We’ve got a quarterback that plays extremely well and we’ve been very pleased with the way Carson’s played in football games,” Allen said. “Obviously, we’ll do anything that we feel like gives us a chance to win football games. But right now, we don’t feel like that’s in our plans.”
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If you look at the two statements here and then think of what TPryor brings to the table in terms of speed ability to throw size and competitiveness. You wonder what the hell this HC is thinking. We’re 1-4 and if we lose another game before we win the season is likely OVER!! What is this HC thinking about?? TP is an asset not some liability. I have no real issue with Palmer I like the guy although I would like to see more clutch play. WE HAVE NOT WON two games in a row since he became a starter after the 3 game winning streak to get to 7-4 since then we’ve won TWO GAMES in 10 what’s wrong with added offensive punch. We can’t score worth crap. But the Raider brass continues to BURY their collective heads in the sand when it comes to Al Davis picks……………wake up from your slumber and start competing with everything you have………….period
October 17th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
East, i don’t have a problem with coaches calling it like it is so long as it’s done with respect. i’m personally not a believer in motivating with negative reinforcement, regardless of compensation. leadership 101.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Why has Taiwan jones been strapped to the bench?? he may be the fastest player on this roster and a threat to go the distance in the blink of an eye. Yet he’s mysteriously in this doghouse WHY?? Chekwa where is he? we need DB help he’s buried on the PS for soem wierd reason(not wierd at all considering this coaching staff) this crap is bias against these picks that don’t belong the the”REGGIME” or Gastopohowevr you choose to look at it. Play the best players………..period
October 17th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
His cap hits are biggest in 2013 and 2014. The writing is on the wall.
6.6 mil in 2013
8.5 mil in 2014
I dont know how much of that is guaranteed, but I think it’stoo late no matter what he does.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
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Do Polar Bears get polaroids from sitting on the ice to long?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
who is with me on this? I could care a rats ass about a coach throwing a player under the bus in front of the media. that same player has no problems win he gets praise in front of the media imo it should work both ways.
if you get MILLIONS TO PLAY A GAME shouldnt you be able to handle a lil criticism. and if you were a player on a team and a certain guy lets say MCCLAIN who is in the dogghouse with just about everyone in here is fcking up all season and the coach throws him under the bus in front of the media and Mcclain says “I dont want to play for this guy anymore he talked bad about me in front of the media” as a teamate of his how would you feel? Me I would say suck it and play better and maybe you wont get talked about and if you cant handle it while your getting paid your MILLIONS get the fck out dont want you on my team anyway. does that sound so bad?
your thoughts Nation?
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You don’t have a problem unless it’s YOU. Listen why not the players call him out when his plan stinks. Keep it in the lockerroom.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
who is with me on this? I could care a rats ass about a coach throwing a player under the bus in front of the media. that same player has no problems win he gets praise in front of the media imo it should work both ways.
if you get MILLIONS TO PLAY A GAME shouldnt you be able to handle a lil criticism. and if you were a player on a team and a certain guy lets say MCCLAIN who is in the dogghouse with just about everyone in here is fcking up all season and the coach throws him under the bus in front of the media and Mcclain says “I dont want to play for this guy anymore he talked bad about me in front of the media” as a teamate of his how would you feel? Me I would say suck it and play better and maybe you wont get talked about and if you cant handle it while your getting paid your MILLIONS get the fck out dont want you on my team anyway. does that sound so bad? I want to here what you guys think since what hue did was so wrong.
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Raider E Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
McClain has been served his wake-up call East. He chooses not to answer then so be it.
Allen is done with his nonsense.
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C2E Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
East, i don’t have a problem with coaches calling it like it is so long as it’s done with respect. i’m personally not a believer in motivating with negative reinforcement, regardless of compensation. leadership 101.
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More thoughts Nation?
October 17th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
It seems like the plan is try to win the next three. If we win next week, we are only a game back! So it’s Palmer all the way at this point. We would have to truly be out of it to put Pryor on. Like 2-8 or something. Bottom line is I suspect reg and da don’t believe in Pryor. So either we will get in this thing or eventually see if Pryor has anything. If he doesn’t, then it’s time to pick a qb in the draft.
I personally like Palmer and think he’s gonna lead us to a string of wins coming up. But if the raiders truly fail over the next month, then we would have to move on from Palmer simply to plan for the future. Palmer is there to win now. It’s why he was brought in. If the team simply doesn’t have it, he would probably be allowed to catch on with another team like Arizona, who feels they are a seasoned qb away from contending.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Priest, we need continuity not gadgets. If we can get a rhythm going with the right roster mix, it would make a huge difference. I’m concerned, however, that we have too many holes and not enough depth. TP i’m afraid will not be given an opportunity here. Too far away and too volatile. DA is looking for something different and risk taking is not one of them.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I think Taiwan lost the trust of the coaching staff in the opener with the two mishandled opportunities.
He was back there for the kickoff after Atlanta got the pick 6. Unfortunately it was a touch back.
His replacing Goodson on that return does tell us that the coaching staff knows he can break one at any point.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
who is with me on this? I could care a rats ass about a coach throwing a player under the bus in front of the media. that same player has no problems win he gets praise in front of the media imo it should work both ways.
if you get MILLIONS TO PLAY A GAME shouldnt you be able to handle a lil criticism. and if you were a player on a team and a certain guy lets say MCCLAIN who is in the dogghouse with just about everyone in here is fcking up all season and the coach throws him under the bus in front of the media and Mcclain says “I dont want to play for this guy anymore he talked bad about me in front of the media” as a teamate of his how would you feel? Me I would say suck it and play better and maybe you wont get talked about and if you cant handle it while your getting paid your MILLIONS get the fck out dont want you on my team anyway. does that sound so bad?
your thoughts Nation?
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You don’t have a problem unless it’s YOU. Listen why not the players call him out when his plan stinks. Keep it in the lockerroom.
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It goes both ways priest there all pro’s I would have no problem with a player throwing knapp under the bus in front of the media. why not?
October 17th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
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October 17th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
excuse my mispelling of Gestapo I couldn’t remeber how to spell it and was too lazy to look it up…..lol
October 17th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
I think the whole team believes we can win the next 3 games and be right back in the hunt.
It’s not time for Pryor now. The offense is just know starting to get the ZBS as witnessed by the most rushing yards we have had in a game this past sunday.
Heck, if our right tackle wasn’t called for holding twice Dmac would have chalked up his second 100 yard performance.
When they say they are this close. I believe them.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
It goes both ways priest there all pro’s I would have no problem with a player throwing knapp under the bus in front of the media. why not?
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Bedcause it’s counterproductive and distructive. Do you want that kind of dysfunction when you’re trying to focus on winning??
October 17th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
i remember corky saying after day 1 of OTAs that Marcel Reece would be heavily utilized in the passing game, and then his name was never uttered again. i assumed that was by design. and then his contract was restructured prior to the season opener. and then trent dilfer claimed on that monday night, “we’ll talk more about him later…”
clearly, the secret wasn’t so secret.
wouldn’t be surprised if opposing defenses, and the league office, are taking advantage of our weak attempt at “secrecy.”
October 17th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
*now
October 17th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
I guess we should wait until the seaosn is blown to try Pryor based on that comment. I think that’s crazy talk we need all hands on deck or get ready for the draft. But maybe they don’t care as long as Mr Davis doesn’t get credit.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I think the world should know if your a pro athlete making MILLIONS and you suck on a regular basis (Mcclain,Knapp or Romo whoever) so fans all over the country can see you suck. Guarauntee that there are fans on the eastcoast who dont know Mcclain is stinking it up down here. It goes that way when players get praise (Brady,Manning,Polomalu whoever).
October 17th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
DA didn’t throw McClain under the bus. He did what he had to do.
You have a young monster in Burris coming off the field in the nickel and leaving an unfocused MLB who is clearly in over his head on the field.
Whats he supposed to say when his first round MLB only plays 17 plays and the defense as a whole plays better.
He said McClain responded well.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
PALMER = GEORGE …both the victim of a defense full of dumb baboons
Inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Game of the week redskins vs giants.
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that’s as far as i read into this post, who the fu#k but you in here cares? This is a Raider blog, go tweet RGIII, buy his jersey, join his fan club, you’re a Redskin fan a Carolina fan a Seattle fan and a Philly fan NOT a Raider fan so move on ================================== CLOSE…HE’S A MONKEY LOVER who thinks they can play QB…even though year after year they put up LOSING records against the superior white QB…FACT!
WEEK 6 MONKEY QB UPDATE = 10 wins / 12 LOSSES …just like EVERY year….FACT
October 17th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Monkey? Show some class, Fang. There is no room for that on this blog.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
With Curry on his way back maybe we can play a true 3-4 more often with MClain and Curry in the middle.
I think that combined with the wake-up call will help Ro immensely.
He is not a 4-3 mlb.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
My game of the week is always whoever the Raiders are playing.
Every other game is a distant second.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Whats up guys. Its been a while since my last post.
The Denver game was horribly depressing beyond belief. And that was the week I was extremely busy moving back to the USA from Italy. Now Im finally settled in here in Cali.
What can one say about the Atlanta game. Same ol same ol.
Refs clobbering us like we all knew they would, and our own players not making the most of our opportunities. All of our turnovers were unacceptable and cost us the game. Meyers’ dropped TD pass was inexcusable and a perfect illustration of how we find ways to lose while winning teams find ways too win.
We went toe to toe with the best team in the league and should have beat them. The scheme is there, the talent is obviously there, we just cant play 60 minutes of football. Its called being a loser. Losing is a cancer and its just going to take some time to cure this locker room. Nothing more, nothing less.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Anyway, Good Night Fellas.
Remember,
NO MORE SULLIVAN44!!!!
SCROLL THE TROLL 2012
October 17th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
It goes both ways priest there all pro’s I would have no problem with a player throwing knapp under the bus in front of the media. why not?
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Bedcause it’s counterproductive and distructive. Do you want that kind of dysfunction when you’re trying to focus on winning??
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thats the point were not winning and Knapp needs to go. if you do your job well you get the praise you deserve if not i.e. knapp throw his ass under the bus like T.O. did knapp hasnt been good anywhere he has been.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Raider E Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
DA didn’t throw McClain under the bus.
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He should have.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I see it’s still Knapps fault that DMC fumbled, our LT let Palmer get blasted, and Meyers dropped a TD on the goal line.
Nothings changed here. Al would be proud.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raider E Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Monkey? Show some class, Fang. There is no room for that on this blog
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the joy of anonymonity. he would dare say it to anybody’s face… i’d youtube the hell out of that beat down
October 17th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
You’re a punk-a** biatch Slowlando.
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– Strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler now is the one on defense wearing the helmet fitted with the radio linked to defensive coordinator Jason Tarver.
The change came last game, when McClain was removed from the nickel package and, as a result, not on the field for every down.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Riff,
Welcome home.
Fire Knapp!
October 17th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I see it’s still Knapps fault that DMC fumbled, our LT let Palmer get blasted, and Meyers dropped a TD on the goal line.
Nothings changed here. Al would be proud.
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nobody missed you knapp lover you can leave and stay gone. btw Al fired knapp.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Gotta hand it to you Sully. That was funny.
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Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Allen’s orders to Knapp are simple. No more than 10 passing plays. Carson Campbell will throw away no more games for us.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Whut up ma beyotches!!
October 17th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
183,
That’s a good post. Of all the times Myers has to drop a pass he does it in the biggest moment of the year.
And Palmer. He’s only thrown 3 int’s all yr. but what a time to throw a pick six. Dang.
I like Palmer. He’s got all the tools. 6′5 big arm, lazer throws on a rope, nice “float” pass, and he’s a class act. I love the way he comports himself with everything he does.
That int. came at the worst time though, but he also drove us back and the defense? well…they did what they have always done when the games on the line.
I’m not absolving Palmer…he’s not absolving himself, but it happens to the best of him. I don’t have to worry that he’s not giving 110% every time he’s out there.
That Palmer int. is a symptom of what you noted…this team hasn’t figured out how important winning is yet. Imo.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Or in the stands 8 rows deep…
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Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
JaMarcus Russell wouldn’t have thrown that pass to Samuel.============Well, this is true. It would have been badly underthrown.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I see it’s still Knapps fault that DMC fumbled, our LT let Palmer get blasted, and Meyers dropped a TD on the goal line.
Nothings changed here. Al would be proud.
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but it was Hues fault the D sucked.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
You’re a punk-a** biatch Slowlando.
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Something is wrong with this kid. WTF. He is talented & smart (according to everyone who coached him), so WTF is his problem. I don’t get it.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Whut up HO or HOE (lol)!
Long live the ODB!
October 17th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
I think McClain needs real good players around him to LOOK good.
That’s what he had at Bama. A huge line with Mt. Cody et al and talent behind him in the secondary.
He might be better in a 3/4. Maybe Baltimore would want him.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Palmer redeemed himself and tied the game around 40 secs. I blame the prevent defense that gave them the game with 40 secs on the clock.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
With around 40 secs left in the game.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
You’re a punk-a** biatch Slowlando.
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Something is wrong with this kid. WTF. He is talented & smart (according to everyone who coached him), so WTF is his problem. I don’t get it.
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its simple they lied.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Priest,you used to be sensible. Opinionated, but sensible. Do I have to list all of our starters that were Al Davis draft picks or FA pick-ups? Don’t think anyone is not playing for that reason. Maybe they should be playing, but I’m not buying an anti Al bias.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dave,
What do you think of your $6 million punter? Still think he is worth the money?
October 17th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
If u watch the highlight reel of Burris in college, he’s a big time rusher from the end.
I’d like to see em try Burris out with more getting after the QB.
Wasn’t THAT what got us so excited about him in the first place?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
PALMER = GEORGE …both the victim of a defense full of dumb baboons
Inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Game of the week redskins vs giants.
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that’s as far as i read into this post, who the fu#k but you in here cares? This is a Raider blog, go tweet RGIII, buy his jersey, join his fan club, you’re a Redskin fan a Carolina fan a Seattle fan and a Philly fan NOT a Raider fan so move on ================================== CLOSE…HE’S A MONKEY LOVER who thinks they can play QB…even though year after year they put up LOSING records against the superior white QB…FACT!
WEEK 6 MONKEY QB UPDATE = 10 wins / 12 LOSSES …just like EVERY year….FACT
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hey moron–couple things:
1) tons of great “monkeys” in sports. some of the best ever, dil-do.
2) nobody here likes u. get it? all of us white guys hate u too. we don’t claim u as one of us.
3) how’s ur “superiority” working for u? i love the idiotic white supremacy guys who talk about how they’re the superior ones, while they live in hovels and do meth.
i’m a white, college educated guy who likes plenty of black people and hates ur type. and i’m way superior to u. living in a trailer, drving a motorcycle, beating ur wife and kids, doing meth and bath salts, and working at a factory and/or collecting welfare isn’t showing ur superiority knitwit. maybe u should get ur head out of ur azz, realize there is no such thing as a ary-an nation and either kille urself or get off drugs. understand dummy?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Raider E Says: Monkey? Show some class, Fang. There is no room for that on this blog.
Remember,
NO MORE SULLIVAN44!!!!
SCROLL THE TROLL 2012====================Good chance you just responded to him.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
i don’t think fangs is sullivan. sullivan likes to think he is intelligent. he responds to insults by accusing u of being uneducated, etc. he usually tries to base his stupid anti-raider rants on something close to facts. he misleads and lies but he uses facts. fangs seems like a legitimate racist guy. just spouting hate and stupidity, while he eats cheetos in his underwear. odds are tremendous that he and his “ol’ lady” do meth regularly. a real member of the “superior race”.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
WTF?
You Monkeys are not allowed to use ” monkey” as an insult. Only I can do that.
Effin Monkeys!
October 17th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Hey O what’s shaken my brother from a different mother?
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Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Whut up HO or HOE (lol)!
Long live the ODB!
October 17th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Old wounds are hard to heal O. It’s cool ma brother! I understand.
This Lechlers last season. Book it.
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Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dave,
What do you think of your $6 million punter? Still think he is worth the money?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Yes, I still think he’s worth it.
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Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dave,
What do you think of your $6 million punter? Still think he is worth the money?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
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Put McFadden back in a scheme he’s comfortable in and he’ll shine. Keep him in a scheme that he’s hesitant about…and he looks…well, hesitant.
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This is another piece of misinformation. The reason for the Zone system is any back can go in there and be successful. The leading rusher in the NFL the last few years was not even drafted. Dungver came out of nowhere in the late 90’s because of a RB they pulled in the 6th or 7th round with this same system. To say McFadden is not a match is like saying Adrian Peterson couldn’t run in this system. Those guys should be able to excel in ANY system. If for some reason they can’t, something is wrong with them, not the system.
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Nope – there are backs which are better suited for it. And, often they aren’t the same as the Adrian Peterson’s or the Darren McFadden’s.
Just like there are O-Linemen better suited for zone blocking, and they often get drafted much later or not at all because they don’t posess the same characteristics.
Like we drafted the “best” Zone Blocking line-man in the draft last year in the 3rd round.
The ONLY difference I can think of between McFadden years early on, the 2 years in between and now is the schemes. He FLOURISHED under Hue and actually struggled before.
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While some of what you say here certainly is right, some of it needs a little tweaking. There are no doubt system fits. However running back is one position that that has no bearing. Can you name one running back who floundered and then went to another “system” and became a star? I certainly can’t. In fact if there is any way a back WOULD succeed in changing systems the zone system would be the one to go to.
Lastly, the best year McFadden has had as a pro was in 2010. And what 95% of you don’t realize is they were still running Tom Cables offense, and Cables zone scheme. And again do any of you think for one minute that AP or MJD or Marshawn could not do extremely well in a zone scheme?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
[...] Kansas City Chiefs and 1 1/2 games behin the 3-3 Denver Broncos and San Diego Chargers. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
October 17th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
No offense Dr_robert but I don’t think you’ve been here long enough to fully appreciate the the many facets of MR. If you were puzzled by my GoldenJew comments earlier, MR came on late one night touting 5 white QB’s as the elite and 5 black ones as the worst, using that handle. Minutes later the same thing with running backs and than a third similar post. Blog was dead and I said, “Bored, MR?”. He replied and said “How’d you know it was me?” The quasi- intellectual persona is only one of many,many facades he presents, fishing for reactions.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I like Asian basketball players!
I like white DBs, RBs, and WRs!
I like Black QBs, coaches, and GMs!
October 17th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I like minorities!
October 17th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
I’m not SANDUSKY44.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
And Sully was on one his more ridiculous tirades tonight.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Lechler makes 6 million a season? At least Janikowski scores points.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
I think McClain needs real good players around him to LOOK good.
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DJ this is true of everyone in this league including Ray Lewis, Pat Willis and anyone else. take a look at Ray’s Dline as well as Willis’ the same is true. Patrick Willis damn near has an allstar team around him and the same is true with Ray. Why should Ro be any different?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
bigsnow81 Says: I’m not SANDUSKY44. Yes you are.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Raider O Says: I like Asian basketball players!
I like white DBs, RBs, and WRs!
I like Black QBs, coaches, and GMs!=============I like most everybody but the a$$holes.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I don’t care, peace wankers.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Palmer called the jville game a must.
He’s matched with Blaine Gabbert, who is he trying to kid?
The Raiders have no business losing to jville at Oaktown on Sunday, but stranger things have happened. No way the Raiders lose, right?
October 17th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Hey O what’s shaken my brother from a different mother?
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Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Whut up HO or HOE (lol)!
Long live the ODB!
Raidernationdave Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Old wounds are hard to heal O. It’s cool ma brother! I understand.
This Lechlers last season. Book it.
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Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dave,
What do you think of your $6 million punter? Still think he is worth the money?
Raidernationdave Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Yes, I still think he’s worth it.
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Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dave,
What do you think of your $6 million punter? Still think he is worth the money?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- All is well. S&P (smoking & posting), and enjoying the great weather of SC. I love this place.
- I agree my brother. Lechler is gone after this season.
- $6 million cap hit for average performance.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
1-4 must win, captain obvious. Last week was a must win. I rememeber the Houstan Oilers going 1-4 in 1993 and they won 11 straight games.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
finished 12-4
October 17th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I think the criticism of Rolando is fair to a point but many don’t understand the responsibility nor the production. My critism of him is he just needs to play faster. But this kid has been in some bad schemes and constant turnover. This is a new scheme plus he hasn’t always been healthy. But when he is like the first game of the year you saw what he’s capable of. The wya they use can be looked at also. What ask him to do limits in most cases his ability to play fast. He’s in his 3rd season which is when most MLB’s start to take off including Ray Lewis. I think this kid hass a world of talent and his best days are ahead of him. I think he’s more of a thinker than he needs to be which causes the step slow reaction time. He’s trying not to make mistakes as a result he’s not making plays. This new system he’s in should’ve been tailored to him but it’s not. Ray and Pat are protected he’s not. What they ask Pat Willis to do is a lot easier mentally and physically. But Rolando needs to play faster……….period
October 17th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
[...] Oakland Tribune Read [...]
October 17th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
No offense Dr_robert but I don’t think you’ve been here long enough to fully appreciate the the many facets of MR. If you were puzzled by my GoldenJew comments earlier, MR came on late one night touting 5 white QB’s as the elite and 5 black ones as the worst, using that handle. Minutes later the same thing with running backs and than a third similar post. Blog was dead and I said, “Bored, MR?”. He replied and said “How’d you know it was me?” The quasi- intellectual persona is only one of many,many facades he presents, fishing for reactions.
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i have been here for a couple seasons. first as rob raider and now as dr robert. i actually don’t care what mr says.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I like Asian basketball players!
I like white DBs, RBs, and WRs!
I like Black QBs, coaches, and GMs!
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lol! me too. i generally like people who break the mold. i like the underdog.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Anthony Smith = 4 time MURDERER…its what THEY do BEST ****** DR DUMBA$$…go back to fondling your sister.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I think the criticism of Rolando is fair to a point but many don’t understand the responsibility nor the production. My critism of him is he just needs to play faster. But this kid has been in some bad schemes and constant turnover. This is a new scheme plus he hasn’t always been healthy. But when he is like the first game of the year you saw what he’s capable of. The wya they use can be looked at also. What ask him to do limits in most cases his ability to play fast. He’s in his 3rd season which is when most MLB’s start to take off including Ray Lewis. I think this kid hass a world of talent and his best days are ahead of him. I think he’s more of a thinker than he needs to be which causes the step slow reaction time. He’s trying not to make mistakes as a result he’s not making plays. This new system he’s in should’ve been tailored to him but it’s not. Ray and Pat are protected he’s not. What they ask Pat Willis to do is a lot easier mentally and physically. But Rolando needs to play faster……….period
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He has a complete lack of football instincts… sorry. None.
Stuart Schweigert had more football instincts.
I have seen McClain abandon his gap for a completely ridiculous guess at least 100 times.
If he stood their like a tree stump the RB would have a better chance of running into McClain.
These are things that cannot be taught, and will never improve. If he was speedy like most of the rest of Al’s first round picks, I’d say he can have a shelf life in the NFL.
I bet he is out of the NFL in two years.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
hey moron–couple things:
1) tons of great “monkeys” in sports. === …don’t you mean IN PRISON? 2) 70+% BROKE after out of the NFL within 2 years = I WONDER WHY?…couldn’t be because THEY ARE STUPID?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
McClain = CRIMINAL = NO SUPRISE
October 17th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
I bet he is out of the NFL in two years.
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Maybe him and JaMarcus can share a double wide in ten years?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I think the criticism of Rolando is fair to a point but many don’t understand the responsibility nor the production. My critism of him is he just needs to play faster. But this kid has been in some bad schemes and constant turnover. This is a new scheme plus he hasn’t always been healthy. But when he is like the first game of the year you saw what he’s capable of. The wya they use can be looked at also. What ask him to do limits in most cases his ability to play fast. He’s in his 3rd season which is when most MLB’s start to take off including Ray Lewis. I think this kid hass a world of talent and his best days are ahead of him. I think he’s more of a thinker than he needs to be which causes the step slow reaction time. He’s trying not to make mistakes as a result he’s not making plays. This new system he’s in should’ve been tailored to him but it’s not. Ray and Pat are protected he’s not. What they ask Pat Willis to do is a lot easier mentally and physically. But Rolando needs to play faster……….period
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sorry dude, but ur gonna have to realize the truth about this guy a lot faster than jarassic or campbell. this guys sucks. it has nothing to do with needing to play faster or being too much of a thinker. first off, he has no desire to make plays. u really needed to watch him on every play specifically to see how bad he is. i say it in the past tense, cuz the dude is gone for this team within two weeks. players who get stripped of their duties like this, especially ones with no good track record, don’t recover. see aaron curry for an example. once seattle removed him from the starting lineup, it was only a matter of time. he does play slow. but it’s because he stands and watches and then either avoids contact altogether, or just runs into the line and pretends to be trying. he’s really really bad. they tried with him. he proved he sucks. next.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Raiders defense will always suck with all these LEADERLESS DUMB monkeys…11 Miles Burris’s = WINNING DEFENSE
October 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Anthony Smith = 4 time MURDERER…its what THEY do BEST ****** DR DUMBA$$…go back to fondling your sister.
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too bad he didn’t get to u before he was arrested.
guarantee ur broke.
no one with ur lack of intelligence ever is successful.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Raiders defense will always suck with all these LEADERLESS DUMB monkeys…11 Miles Burris’s = WINNING DEFENSE
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and 11 of u makes a special ed class.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
…Dr.Incest must be making a house call LMFAO!!!
October 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Successful enough to make you look like a race trading idiot!
October 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Raiders defense will always suck with all these LEADERLESS DUMB monkeys…11 Miles Burris’s = WINNING DEFENSE
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so ur saying these dumb monkeys lack a leader or are u trying to say they lack leadership?
and u don’t use an apostrophe when ur trying to say burrises, like as in plural.
but u sure are superior to the monkeys, aren’t fang? i wonder how many teeth u have.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
…Dr.Incest must be making a house call LMFAO!!!
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really? that made u laugh? seriously? wow. ur pretty dumb aren’t u buddy?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Successful enough to make you look like a race trading idiot!
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race trading? i tell u what fang. ur white. i’m white. i would rather have just about every black guy in the world marry my daughter than have u as my neighbor. too many cars on jacks in the yard, collections of aluminum cans piling up, etc.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Dr = reason why this county is going bankrupt…voted for the kenyan illegal alien marxist…way to go moron!
October 17th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
hey fangs–what do u do for a living? odd jobs?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Successful enough to make you look like a race trading idiot!
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race trading? i tell u what fang. ur white. i’m white. i would rather have just about every black guy in the world marry my daughter than have u as my neighbor. too many cars on jacks in the yard, collections of aluminum cans piling up, etc. ======================================= I HOPE YOU GET THAT WISH AND THE MONKEY KILLS HER….THATS WHAT THEY DO BEST!
October 17th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Well we’ll see what happens I wonder if you all will admit it if you’re wrong….two weeks you say huh?
OK if he’s still playing after 4 weeks I want you to admit the fact that you were wrong. I’ll certainly do the same if I’m wrong. Thanks for listening.
No instincts………..lol
October 17th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Dr = reason why this county is going bankrupt…voted for the kenyan illegal alien marxist…way to go moron!
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This guy is Sandusky44
October 17th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
If they listened to you geniuses in here our roster would consist of 5 players and all you fans……….lol
October 17th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Dr = reason why this county is going bankrupt…voted for the kenyan illegal alien marxist…way to go moron!
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yeah, i bet ur contributing a lot to the country’s success. i bet ur looking for someone to blame for ur sh!tty life. look in the mirror. people like u blame everyone else for their lack of ability. if u stopped spending so much time on stupid racism and got off the meth, i bet u could do better.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
183,
That’s a good post. Of all the times Myers has to drop a pass he does it in the biggest moment of the year.
And Palmer. He’s only thrown 3 int’s all yr. but what a time to throw a pick six. Dang.
I like Palmer. He’s got all the tools. 6′5 big arm, lazer throws on a rope, nice “float” pass, and he’s a class act. I love the way he comports himself with everything he does.
That int. came at the worst time though, but he also drove us back and the defense? well…they did what they have always done when the games on the line.
I’m not absolving Palmer…he’s not absolving himself, but it happens to the best of him. I don’t have to worry that he’s not giving 110% every time he’s out there.
That Palmer int. is a symptom of what you noted…this team hasn’t figured out how important winning is yet. Imo.
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Im not harping on Palmer. The guy was lights out for most the game. Most of the season really. Our O-Line was so unbelievably inconsistent against Atlanta that I am surprised Palmer played as good as he did.
Meyers on the other hand has been making some major mistakes. Just getting blown up constantly on the line.
I havent had a chance to review the Denver game tape. No point really. Not gonna waste my time. We didnt bother to show up.
And Im not sure if I wanna relive the Atlanta loss either. Because the one glaring thing that keeps standing out in some of these games isnt the scheme or the talent/lack-of….. its the plays where we just get beat physically. Our blocking is still our biggest issue right now. I loved seeing Knapp rip into the O-Line in the 3rd quarter. Second biggest issue is that DMC is having a hell of a time getting going in this scheme. Goodson averages 15 yards a carry last game and DMC is still stuck on 2.6….. which brings up a VERY valid point, the refs:
Lets be honest here, that game was a joke. Every time DMC ripped a big run off, we got called back. If any of you cant see the night and day difference in the way we are being treated from the replacements to the real refs, you are blind. We go from the 2nd least penalized team back to the most penalized team. That is NO COINCIDENCE.
If there is one positive, is that the coaches are making adjustments. Scholarship guys are on major notice now that Rolando has been demoted. Talent means nothing with this reggime. Its about production. And I say, its about time.
We shoulda won SD
We shoulda won Miami
We shoulda won Atlanta
We could easily be 4-1 right now. Why does my “what if” pontification matter? It doesnt. But it does illustrate what this team is capable if we play 60 minutes each week. Turning this season around is still doable. If we climb back to 500 these next 3 weeks (tall order I know) then we still have a very realistic chance at the division. We are only 1.5 games back with 11 weeks to go. That is a eternity.
But this team has to earn our trust back. It has to earn my trust back. Now that Im back in SoCal, I got about a million things better to do than suffer thru more heartbreak on a Sunday. The beach with my chic sounds a million times better. Or joining a elite level hard ball baseball league that plays on Sundays is also a option for me. I just cant go thru this heartbreak any more. I cant set my clock to the Raiders for much longer if this BS continues. My patience has about run out.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
if u stopped spending so much time on stupid racism and got off the meth, i bet u could do better.
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Before you accuse somenone else of ignorance, you must first prove you are not the ignorant one.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Well we’ll see what happens I wonder if you all will admit it if you’re wrong….two weeks you say huh?
OK if he’s still playing after 4 weeks I want you to admit the fact that you were wrong. I’ll certainly do the same if I’m wrong. Thanks for listening.
No instincts………..lol
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i don’t need to admit i’m wrong. i’m not guaranteeing he’s gone in two weeks. they might not find any takers, and he may be around for the rest of the season. but i will guarantee he will never be a quality player in the nfl, and he won’t be a raider after this season. too much money for a garbage player. i guess dennis allen and reggie are closer to my way of thinking than u are. pretty much all professional nfl people were in agreement with me on jarassic and campbell too. i get the feeling ur gonna be holding onto mcclain long after he’s gone, claiming he never was given a chance. he was given plenty of chances. he sucks.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Al Gore “shoulda” been President.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Miles Burris’s = LMAO
October 17th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
if u stopped spending so much time on stupid racism and got off the meth, i bet u could do better.
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Before you accuse somenone else of ignorance, you must first prove you are not the ignorant one.
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i don’t have to accuse fangs of ignorance. he proves it with every post.
and i prove with every post that i’m probably the most intelligent guy here.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Listen man Campbell and whoever you’re talking about have zero to do with Rolando. I had no problem with the Palmer acquistion and have no problem moving on from Campbell so I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. I never thought Campbell was some great player to begin with so get you story straight he is what he is. Rolando is Rolando we’ll se what happens but you don’t know what he’ll do in the NFL you’re just running your damn mouth…………period
October 17th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
You actually have a phd or are you an md?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Players that won’t be here next year:
Carlisle – getting too old past his prime
Goethel – No hope for him if he can’t beat out McClain
Kelly – Not good enough
McClain – overpaid & too slow
Prior – Coaching staff have no faith in him
Seymour – Overpaid & not good enough
Lechier – overpaid, King lined up as replacement
Seems it comes down to pay vs production
Feel free to add to the list…
October 17th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I thinking of another blog where I called BS someone saying they had a phd physics.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
*I was
October 17th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Dr_robert. Classic MR right here, cross posting, talking to himself, and outing himself all at the same time. The threat of ignoring Sully activated the whole, no,part of the vast sock puppet brigade. It;s actually very funny=========================================================bigsnow81 Says:
fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Dr = reason why this county is going bankrupt…voted for the kenyan illegal alien marxist…way to go moron!
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This guy is Sandusky44
October 17th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
That sentence had all kinds of grammatical errors.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
265.Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Dr_robert. Classic MR right here, cross posting, talking to himself, and outing himself all at the same time. The threat of ignoring Sully activated the whole, no,part of the vast sock puppet brigade. It;s actually very funny=========================================================bigsnow81 Says:
fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Dr = reason why this county is going bankrupt…voted for the kenyan illegal alien marxist…way to go moron!
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This guy is Sandusky44
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You are trippin
October 17th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
You will never read a bigoted comment from me.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Listen man Campbell and whoever you’re talking about have zero to do with Rolando. I had no problem with the Palmer acquistion and have no problem moving on from Campbell so I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. I never thought Campbell was some great player to begin with so get you story straight he is what he is. Rolando is Rolando we’ll se what happens but you don’t know what he’ll do in the NFL you’re just running your damn mouth…………period
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didn’t u hang onto russell forever? if not, forget it.
but i do know what he’ll do in the nfl. he’s not a mystery. there is 2.5 seasons worth of plays to see he sucks. i have watched him closely. i have been telling this blog since last year that he’s awful. unfortunately i knew the raiders would have to give enuff rope to hang himself. which he has finally done. his play has actually gotten much worse. he seems to be ready to quit this whole football thing. pretty sure he wants out.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
McClain is a bust. Huff is a bust as well. He is servicable, but still a bust.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Name one first round draft pick in the last ten years that hasn’t been a bust?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Huff could turn it around as a corner back could he not?
October 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
You actually have a phd or are you an md?
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more of a doctor in the way that dr. dre is a doctor.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
I was thinking of a different blog.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
bigsnow81 Says: You will never read a bigoted comment from me.============That’s how it works, Sybil.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Name one first round draft pick in the last ten years that hasn’t been a bust?
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dmc
asomugha
dhb
October 17th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I can see Huff being servicable as a CB, but he was drafted #6 overall. He has been in the league 6 seasons, I would consider that a bust.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
and i prove with every post that i’m probably the most intelligent guy here. ================= YOU SURE ARE…just an example DUMB-TA Cullpepper BETTER than MARINO……what a COMPLETE MORON
October 17th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says: Huff could turn it around as a corner back could he not?==============Never thought he was as bad as many in here, though overpaid. Might just make that conversion ala Nnamdi. Just took twice as long.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
You actually have a phd or are you an md?
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more of a doctor in the way that dr. dre is a doctor. ======== A WANNABE MONKEY…FIGURES
October 17th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Anyone hope a rookie QB is the answer?
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49433625/ns/sports-nfl/
“There has never been a season in the modern era (since 1950) where five rookie quarterbacks started in Week 1, but that was the case with Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, and Russell Wilson.
Only Wilson — go figure, the only one who was a third-round pick — has led his team to a winning record (4-2), but he has the best defense and plays in the league’s most run-heavy offense..”
This means, we may already have the future on our roster (T.Pryor), or we will finish high enough to take Geno Smith, Barkley or Tyler Wilson (who has regressed).
October 17th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
What you are is a loudmouth idiot, Rolando could easily go to a scheme and coach whp uses him right and allows him to make plays. And flourish like so many other players who’s careers start out bad and get in the right situation and become stars. Al Davis made a lifetime and biult a HOF career off teams giving up on players to soon. Rolando is one of the smartest LB’s in the game many coaches including this staff have said it. It just hasn’t come to fruition. For whatever reason , Bill Romonowski also says as much. I’ll take their word over you puttin’head………….sorry.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Fangs, I hope you get AIDS – in both ears
October 17th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
FACT = monkeys RAPE 30,000+ WHITE girls EVERY year…TEACH YOUR DAUGHTERS THE TRUTH !!!
October 17th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
When I think of good players I think of Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Honestly, I’m turned off by Rolando’s incident. It’s a previledge to play in the NFL.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Players that won’t be here next year:
Carlisle – getting too old past his prime
Goethel – No hope for him if he can’t beat out McClain
Kelly – Not good enough
McClain – overpaid & too slow
Prior – Coaching staff have no faith in him
Seymour – Overpaid & not good enough
Lechier – overpaid, King lined up as replacement
Seems it comes down to pay vs production
Feel free to add to the list…
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my list:
carlisle–getting old
palmer/leinart–if we fail to get 7 wins, meaning either prior or a draft choice
dmc–could be dealt if he continues to struggle
prior–depends on if palmer is around and if staff thinks he’s a qb
kelly–still ok but price may jettison him
seymour–likely to retire
mcclain–please hurry
bartell/spencer–could be youth infusion
huff–basically overpaid and medicore
lechler–king on ir for a reason, too much money
October 17th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
FACT = monkeys RAPE 30,000+ WHITE girls EVERY year…TEACH YOUR DAUGHTERS THE TRUTH !!!
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bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
When I think of good players I think of Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson.
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How can we post simultaneously?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
271.bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Name one first round draft pick in the last ten years that hasn’t been a bust?
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That is pretty much irrelevant, because the top 5 picks have at least one impact player that was the ACTUAL first overall pick, the need of the team simply misdirected the pick
Julius Peppers- the true no1 overall pick, picked at 2nd
Carson Palmer – arguably, since he had one playoff appearance, and busts are usually out of the league completely, i.e. Ryan Leaf/J.Russell/Tim Couch
Andre Johnson – true no. 1 overall pick, picked 3 overall
but to answer your question…ironically
Eli Manning.
no. 1 overall then traded to the Giants. – the Chargers ended up dealing the guy who’d win a ring, Drew Brees, and took him to avoid taking Michael Vick overall.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says
You have been talking smack to me for days now and post 288 proves you are wrong.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
288.bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
FACT = monkeys RAPE 30,000+ WHITE girls EVERY year…TEACH YOUR DAUGHTERS THE TRUTH !!!
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bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
When I think of good players I think of Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson.
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How can we post simultaneously?
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how is this fangs dude not banned yet to the Neutral Zone ? WTF is THAT about.
fangs, its 2 a.m., Do you know where your mom is?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RaiderSam Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
271.bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Name one first round draft pick in the last ten years that hasn’t been a bust?
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That is pretty much irrelevant, because the top 5 picks have at least one impact player that was the ACTUAL first overall pick, the need of the team simply misdirected the pick
Julius Peppers- the true no1 overall pick, picked at 2nd
Carson Palmer – arguably, since he had one playoff appearance, and busts are usually out of the league completely, i.e. Ryan Leaf/J.Russell/Tim Couch
Andre Johnson – true no. 1 overall pick, picked 3 overall
but to answer your question…ironically
Eli Manning.
no. 1 overall then traded to the Giants. – the Chargers ended up dealing the guy who’d win a ring, Drew Brees, and took him to avoid taking Michael Vick overall.
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I was think more along the lines of the Raiders, but my comment was vage.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
the only solution for everything with you dumbells in here is cut the guy get rid of him. Well Cameron Wake was done the same way called hopeless now he’s one the brightest edge rushers iin the game. The NFL is a toght gig and many very talented players take time to develope and when they do they dominate.
I’ve studied Rolando and it’s not his ability as much as it is his decision making he’s hesitating and making bad reads but those things are all fixable if he has the desire to do so and by all accts it’s just a matter of time. But fans want things NOW well this league does’t always work that way some times players take more time thatn we’d all LIKE.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
How can we post simultaneously?
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That could be a glitch in the I.T. system, slow server or something?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I was making a point if we are one and the same how did we both post simaltaneously? This comment is directed at Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Priest, can the Raiders afford to keep McClain on scholarship when he gets paid $40million on his contract?
That’s the problem.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
How convenient the man takes a break from this blog when I call him out.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Dr_robert Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
and i prove with every post that i’m probably the most intelligent guy here. ================= YOU SURE ARE…just an example DUMB-TA Cullpepper BETTER than MARINO……what a COMPLETE MORON
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well, clearly u have trouble understanding things as they are written. i listed the best qb’s in raider history by qb rating. i noted next to them what qb’s they were similar to or better or worse than, for comparison’s sake.
i’m sorry. u probably stopped being able to understand the previous sentence about half way into huh?
it’s a fact dummy. culpepper’s qb rating is better than marino’s suck on it whitey!
October 17th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
I think we all want Rolando to be succesful. I’ turned off by the man firing a gun at another mans head with no regard to the organization that has invested a conisiderable amount of money in him.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Culpepper is no Marino.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
What you are is a loudmouth idiot, Rolando could easily go to a scheme and coach whp uses him right and allows him to make plays. And flourish like so many other players who’s careers start out bad and get in the right situation and become stars. Al Davis made a lifetime and biult a HOF career off teams giving up on players to soon. Rolando is one of the smartest LB’s in the game many coaches including this staff have said it. It just hasn’t come to fruition. For whatever reason , Bill Romonowski also says as much. I’ll take their word over you puttin’head………….sorry.
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nope. he sucks. some guys take a while but there are glimpses. u can’t keep everyone. russell sucked balls. so does mcclain. no schem will fix his lack of desire or instincts. he may study film. so do i. but i can’t play mlb for the raiders either. but i would try harder.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Culpepper is no Marino.
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ur right. he was better.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
What you are is a loudmouth idiot, Rolando could easily go to a scheme and coach whp uses him right and allows him to make plays. And flourish like so many other players who’s careers start out bad and get in the right situation and become stars. Al Davis made a lifetime and biult a HOF career off teams giving up on players to soon. Rolando is one of the smartest LB’s in the game many coaches including this staff have said it. It just hasn’t come to fruition. For whatever reason , Bill Romonowski also says as much. I’ll take their word over you puttin’head………….sorry.
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Sorry Priest, we’ll just agree to disagree. However, any talk that Rolando has more than low intelligence can be easily proven:
Anyone who received a $50M contract from one of the most storied teams in the NFL, would not play “thug in the ghetto” and discharge a firearm near the head of an X-best friend: extreme lack of intelligence there.
Let’s discuss #55’s athletic ability:
McClain’s performance is notable but only because it is subpar in nature. If McClain was rendering full performance why has he, for the most part, now been relegated to the bench? This is because he lacks talent.
Let’s now discuss your gullible nature:
Your statement, “Rolando is one of the smartest LB’s in the game many coaches including this staff have said it”, is patently ridiculous.
DA can’t come out and say it directly after the Raiders have paid him $40M already on a $50M contract that #55 can’t cut it in the big leagues; the Raiders have face to save in what is arguably the 2nd biggest draft bust in the NFL history.
If you believe what everyone USED to say about McClain, then I’ll sell you the Raiders franchise for one thousand dollars.
Please note Mark gave me authority to make such a sale.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
priest–will a new scheme cause rolando to run downfield after plays instead of jog?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
This scholarship idea is one of teh dumcest things I’ve ever heard. This league is very very tough the coaches are greta at their jobs in putting players in positions to succeed as well as victimizing players who are not quite there yet. Rolando is struggling no doubt. But you’ve invested way to much in a bright young talent who IMO is on the verge of hitting it. Yes it’s frustrating to watch but if you cut this guy who will replace him??? huh?
Burris is a rookie Currry is coming off injury who’s to say either will be better 2 years from now. Let this kid develope and make sure you’re not making a move jsut to make a move like they did with DVD. For who for what Coye Francies??? ar eyou kidding me!!
Stop with the hasty decisions and learn the talent you have before just dumping them because you have some bum on a practice squad somewhere. Rolando is way to talented to give up on just yet. And don’t come at me with the MONEY issue because that is CRAP CRAP CRAP!! Michael Bush should still be on this team it’s crazy the way they threw that kid away. If they do it with Rolando listening to a bunch of ignorant fans I’m done with this team………period
October 17th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure where the funk you at?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure: Run your mouth and when you are proven wrong you hide like a lil’ Bizz neotch.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
This scholarship idea is one of teh dumcest things I’ve ever heard. This league is very very tough the coaches are greta at their jobs in putting players in positions to succeed as well as victimizing players who are not quite there yet. Rolando is struggling no doubt. But you’ve invested way to much in a bright young talent who IMO is on the verge of hitting it. Yes it’s frustrating to watch but if you cut this guy who will replace him??? huh?
Burris is a rookie Currry is coming off injury who’s to say either will be better 2 years from now. Let this kid develope and make sure you’re not making a move jsut to make a move like they did with DVD. For who for what Coye Francies??? ar eyou kidding me!!
Stop with the hasty decisions and learn the talent you have before just dumping them because you have some bum on a practice squad somewhere. Rolando is way to talented to give up on just yet. And don’t come at me with the MONEY issue because that is CRAP CRAP CRAP!! Michael Bush should still be on this team it’s crazy the way they threw that kid away. If they do it with Rolando listening to a bunch of ignorant fans I’m done with this team………period
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the league is tough. and neither reggie, nor dennis allen want to allow an idiot like mcclain get them fired and prevent the raiders from achieving success.
who will they replace him with? try a 4th rounder from this year’s draft, who has already shown 10 times the playmaking ability and instincts that mcclain has. and the defense immediately looked better for it.
ill say where they’ll be in two years. burris will be starting with the raiders. mcclain will be home in alabama getting fat.
dvd has done nothing.
they have learned all they need to about mcclain. he’s done here. start looking for another team.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
what does it take for a player to prove to u that he sucks priest? mcclain is the worst linebacker i’ve ever seen. and i’ve watched him extensively. and i know the game better than u and probably better than anyone else on this blog.
he sucks. the end.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
You know the game better than i do, you don’t even know me man. Look this is a waste of my time……..just based on that uninformed comment right there. You don’t know what I’ve done….nor whom for.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
It took 2 weeks of evaluation for DA & his staff to make the call on McClain. Must have been a close call, no?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
First off…..DA and RM are the only ones on record to stand behind Rolando McClain…..so….by benching him…..they are essentially admitting they made a mistake….
Shall I find the quotes where each of these men stood behind Rolando…..
Won’t take long….
October 17th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Priesttj12,
“Rolando is way to talented to give up on just yet”.
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Priest,
Please justify with facts that #55 “is way to [too] talented to give up on just yet”?
1. He has a horrible attitude, especially toward media and fans. (He was quoted as saying recently he is not worried at all about his legal case, and never thinks about it; he should be worried, very worried.)
2. He is very slow.
3. You never see him flying around the field like Wheeler pursuing a play.
4. Seems to be either out of place or out of his land.
5. He always jobs toward the play – once it is over.
6. He was a fat ass and thighs and appears to out of shape.
7. He appears dazed and confused on the field of play.
8. He has now been benched, indicating lack of ability.
9. He looks very dumb; glazed eyes, a sluffed off chin sporting a nasty little goatee.
10. His record for play making is dismal.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Of course Reggie and DA stood behind 55 since, as I indicated earlier, they have to stand behind him, bearing in mind Raiders paid him $40M already on a $50M contract, thereby making 55 the 2nd biggest bust in NFL history behind JaMarcus or Leaf.
After this season he’ll be shown the door since he has no trade value now.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
DA and RM have made so many mistakes this year that it would be hard to list them all….but I’ll have a go:
-Letting M. Bush get away
-Replacing the entire group of cornerbacks with players with either no experience or who hadn’t played in over a season due to injuries…
-No drafting of a cornerback for the present or future, which, we could afford with our pick in the draft and his eventual price tag…plus…a defensive player have a much higher probability of seeing time on the field quickly
-Standing behind Rolando McClain after his brush with the law
-Refusing to adjust their Offensive Run Scheme to fit their personnel
-Failing to let their QB call his own plays….clearly a strength he has shown his entire career…..a clear ego move by the OC and his need to attempt to control the situation
-Hiring friends and family to key positions in the organization and firing long time proven employees
-Constant moves made to the practice squad
What else?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
We are only beginning to see changes to “THEIR PLAN”…..which….points to the fact that “THEIR PLAN” is now somebody else’s plan…
I wonder who that might be?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Many of these so called mistakes are cap related decisions.
Hue & Al are to blame for Bush going as he could not be afforded as are the cheap cornerback replacements.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
backstageatapuppetshow,
letting Bush get away was a terrible move. hiring knapp was bad too.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
We are truly backstage at a puppet show?
I wonder what will happen next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNo0BicRM8k
Hey Reggie….do you even make any of your own decisions or are you on a string?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Look at the havoc an excellent cornerback can wreak even in the twilight of his career: Comartie’s pic six on CP.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:01 am
That looks like a funny film
October 18th, 2012 at 12:01 am
backstageatapuppetshow,
We are on a string after 25 yrs of losing. I blame AD and his diseased mind for this mess. Of course his freakish spawn will continue it.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:06 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
We are only beginning to see changes to “THEIR PLAN”…..which….points to the fact that “THEIR PLAN” is now somebody else’s plan…
I wonder who that might be?
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WTF?
October 18th, 2012 at 12:07 am
I mean we lost our long snapper on opening night on MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL….
LOL….are you kidding me?
Can you can’t write a better script to the opening on a “New Era of Excellence”?
LOL….
Talk about embarrassing….
And what does our Coaching Staff do?
They proceed to try and punt with a guy who hasn’t snapped since high school….
And the “kicker” is….no pun intended….that no one still has taken responsibility for the mistake…..
All they had to do was use some common sense and snap with the normal center and execute a shotgun snap and quick kick on 4th down…..end of discussion…..it might have only been a 40 yard kick….but we could have saved ourselves the embarrassment….
October 18th, 2012 at 12:09 am
I’m just here to sell the devils side of the story….don’t listen to me…..I don’t know what I’m talking about….
I mean….seriously…..am I making any sense here…..
Probably not?
October 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am
G’Nite
October 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Priesttj12 Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
You know the game better than i do, you don’t even know me man. Look this is a waste of my time……..just based on that uninformed comment right there. You don’t know what I’ve done….nor whom for.
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i know by ur comments that i know the game better than u. if u have watched mcclain closely and still think he will “develop” then u have no clue.
he looked bad coming into the season, but because of his supposed talent and draft position, the new regime had no choice but to attempt to caoch him up and see if they could make something of him. his play has declined to the point where he is almost a mockery. i’m surprised it took them this long to pull the plug.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:12 am
backstageatapuppetshow,
All they had to do was use some common sense and snap with the normal center and execute a shotgun snap and quick kick on 4th down…..end of discussion…..it might have only been a 40 yard kick….but we could have saved ourselves the embarrassment….
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Lol, absolute scrum baby. A semi-pro figured it out for them.
That was almost as bad as Hue, with 8 seconds left in a critical game to decide the AFC West, kicks a field goal, when making a 2 pt. conversion would have won the game.
Brilliance…….pure brilliance.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Kiwi_Blade Says:
October 17th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Many of these so called mistakes are cap related decisions.
Hue & Al are to blame for Bush going as he could not be afforded as are the cheap cornerback replacements.
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Thats it..blame a dead man and an assistant Coach for the Bengals for ur “MANY MISTAKES”…..
LMOL…..
Off to work!
October 18th, 2012 at 12:14 am
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:01 am
backstageatapuppetshow,
We are on a string after 25 yrs of losing. I blame AD and his diseased mind for this mess. Of course his freakish spawn will continue it.
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oh sullivan, ur so easy to spot. 25 years eh? so the raiders, in ur mind, have been losing since 1987? did u forget about the shell 90’s or the gruden years? why do u stoop to such stupid things? ur at ur best when ur merely dissing obvious targets, which makes it at least challenging to prove u wrong. but when ur like this, it’s just pathetic.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:14 am
dr_robert:
I think 99% of us agree #55 doesn’t belong in the NFL, but on a chaingang in Alabama making little rocks out of big ones.
Only the really, really, really stupid could conclude any differently.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Anyway, 55 was blessed in that he retains $40M on a $50M contract from the Raiders.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:20 am
If they decide to let go of McClain, they better get at least a 3rd for him.
How can the guy have no trade value, except for his salary. McClain has always been ill suited for the 4-3.
McClain would make more plays in a 3-4 scheme and it’s too bad the Raiders don’t use more 3-4 looks.
I think that will change next year when they add a legit 3-4 NT.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:20 am
dr_robert,
#333
I am not Sullivan, and we haven’t won anything in 25 yrs Gruden yrs notwithstanding. AD with his sick and psycho/demented meglo-manical mind refused to allow anyone on the club to gain more attention than he. He essentially fired Gruden, thereby sacrificing another Superbowl win in favor of his ego lust.
By then it was too late for AD and too late for the club.
As far as the first coming of Shell, that was basically a bust, maybe we made the playoffs but that was it. The second coming of Shell was clearly an offset against the success of Shell’s first coming.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Getting rid of Hue Jackson prematurely was a mistake also by Davis and McK.
Set the team back another 3 years.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:22 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:20 am
If they decide to let go of McClain, they better get at least a 3rd for him.
How can the guy have no trade value, except for his salary. McClain has always been ill suited for the 4-3.
McClain would make more plays in a 3-4 scheme and it’s too bad the Raiders don’t use more 3-4 looks.
I think that will change next year when they add a legit 3-4 NT.
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Possibly, but I think the plug has been pulled already – the decision made to cut 55.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:25 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Getting rid of Hue Jackson prematurely was a mistake also by Davis and McK.
Set the team back another 3 years.
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Not sure about that. I personally disliked Hue. Maybe you are correct.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:27 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Getting rid of Hue Jackson prematurely was a mistake also by Davis and McK.
Set the team back another 3 years.
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Hue had to go.
The Palmer trade not only cost us the draft picks but put us in salary cap hell meaning Bush & Wimbley could not be retained.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:29 am
yeah we did get totally screwed on the CP trade. CP should have been acquired for no more that $5M per yr mainly built on incentives and one 2nd round pick to the Bengals.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:33 am
mcclain is history. anyone who has actually really watched him play knows it will be an absolute steal if we get any pick at all for him. a 5th or 6th would make me giddy. the sooner he is gone, the better. the defense looked way better the minute he was relegated to 17 plays. when we can replace him for those 17 plays, even better. when his garbage attitude is gone, even better.
see u lame azz!
October 18th, 2012 at 12:34 am
I would take Hue back as OC, but as HC – NEVER
October 18th, 2012 at 12:36 am
dr_robert:
As coach of the Raiders Shell compiled a record of 54 wins, 38 losses, and was named AFC Coach of the Year in 1990, when the Raiders won the AFC West division with a 12-4 record, and advanced to the AFC championship game in the playoffs, becoming the first African-American coach to lead the team to the Conference Championship game. Al Davis, owner of the Raiders, fired Shell after a 9-7 season in 1994.
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Shell did have some success, but…….once he gained more notoriety, AD, fired him too.
Truly, after Flores retired, AD torpedoed any coach or player who became too popular. In Marcus Allen’s case AD sacrificed at least one Superbowl by benching MA due to a personal vendetta.
AD (BIH) “Burn in Hell for your sins.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:37 am
The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Reggie would take a 7th for McClain
October 18th, 2012 at 12:38 am
keys to a better raider team next season:
1) move wiz to LG, and get a new center. replace brisiel.
2) potentially draft a new qb and/or rb. palmer is good but if the team wins less than 7 games, it’s time to start over. dmc was great…for a little while. he looks very tentative.
3) replace seymour (retiring) and kelly (too expensive) with bryant, houston, and bilukidi.
4) draft a pass rushing end
5) one more LB
6) get new corners. one thru draft and one free agent
7) replace huff permanently with either gio or a free agent
October 18th, 2012 at 12:38 am
once he gained more popularity***……AD fired him too.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:39 am
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:33 am
mcclain is history. anyone who has actually really watched him play knows it will be an absolute steal if we get any pick at all for him. a 5th or 6th would make me giddy. the sooner he is gone, the better. the defense looked way better the minute he was relegated to 17 plays. when we can replace him for those 17 plays, even better. when his garbage attitude is gone, even better.
see u lame azz!
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That is true: the sooner he is gone the better.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:39 am
dr_robert:
8. Replace Knapp
October 18th, 2012 at 12:42 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:09 am
I’m just here to sell the devils side of the story….don’t listen to me…..I don’t know what I’m talking about….
I mean….seriously…..am I making any sense here…..
Probably not?
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It will make more sense to me after I drink more of my malty moonshine.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:43 am
i’m not as down on knapp as others. i don’t necessarily love his plays or playcalling. i mean he hasn’t done anything to make me like him. but i think our line is a huge part of the problem.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:46 am
if we win less than 7 games, my draft wish list:
1) qb
2) pass rushing de
3) mlb
4) cb
free agent wishlist:
c, cb, fs
guys already on team ready to start:
bergstrom at rg
goodson of dmc is jettisoned for picks
bryant, bilukidi
October 18th, 2012 at 12:52 am
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:43 am
i’m not as down on knapp as others. i don’t necessarily love his plays or playcalling. i mean he hasn’t done anything to make me like him. but i think our line is a huge part of the problem.
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Maybe you have a point. One thing is, I have reached the opinion that DMAC just can’t run this year. Not sold that the scheme doesn’t fit his talent. Afterall, he had his best year in a ZBS under Cable in 2010.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:54 am
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:46 am
if we win less than 7 games, my draft wish list:
1) qb
2) pass rushing de
3) mlb
4) cb
free agent wishlist:
c, cb, fs
guys already on team ready to start:
bergstrom at rg
goodson of dmc is jettisoned for picks
bryant, bilukidi
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I agree with that. Especially regarding QB: if we could find a highly talented rookie I am all for acquiring him. That is why I feel that TP should always be suited up ready to come in for CP, if CP goes down, or we are being blown out. Use TP, or lose him.
October 18th, 2012 at 1:00 am
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:52 am
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 12:43 am
i’m not as down on knapp as others. i don’t necessarily love his plays or playcalling. i mean he hasn’t done anything to make me like him. but i think our line is a huge part of the problem.
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Maybe you have a point. One thing is, I have reached the opinion that DMAC just can’t run this year. Not sold that the scheme doesn’t fit his talent. Afterall, he had his best year in a ZBS under Cable in 2010.
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2010 was Hue’s offense. I think he was running PBS.
October 18th, 2012 at 1:14 am
this whole thing about the zbs not being a good fit is pretty much garbage to me. running backs need holes. there aren’t many to be found. dmc looks very hesitant running. a great guage is how well they pass protect, which is to say they don’t. palmer is under immediate pressure nearly every play. the line just stinks this year. veldheer and wiz aren’t playing as well. brisiel sucks. barnes is actually missed.
i think dmc is actually part of the problem. he was a bit of a flash in the pan maybe. looks much closer to the back he was in his first two years than what he was the last two.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 By Raiders Central, on October 17th, 2012 Palmer calls Jaguars game ‘must-win” – ibabuzz.com 10/17/2012 The Raiders and Jaguars are 1-4, with their seasons on the line this [...]
October 18th, 2012 at 5:40 am
This is a game we have to win, no excuses.
We match up well with Jax and it’s been a full off-season, pre-season, 5 games and a bye week to get this running game going, no more patience talk please, let’s make it happen now.
The Jags passing game is atrocious so our DB woes should not be an issue on this one, we just need to contain MJD and put up 20 points to win this week.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Mornin’ Nation
Zero worries about the Jags game. So confident in fact that I picked up Goodson in my fantasy league to start him in my flex spot along with DMac in one of my RB spots.
Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17
October 18th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Must win? Yes, I believe they all are at this point…
October 18th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Yep… I feel the sameway…. Every game they play should always be a must win…. Their should never be any ” we don’t need this one” games…
October 18th, 2012 at 6:41 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.HWNRDR,DONT THINK I WILL HAVE TIME TO PRE-GAME WITH U THIS WEEK.WILL BE ON OTHER SIDE WITH A PARTY BUS.STOP BY MY SEATS ON UR WAY IN IF U HAVE TIME..
October 18th, 2012 at 7:01 am
fingers Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Yep… I feel the sameway…. Every game they play should always be a must win…. Their should never be any ” we don’t need this one” games…
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You mean like the way they treated SD, Miami and Denver?
Yes…I agree.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Stop with the hasty decisions and learn the talent you have before just dumping them because you have some bum on a practice squad somewhere. Rolando is way to talented to give up on just yet. And don’t come at me with the MONEY issue because that is CRAP CRAP CRAP!! Michael Bush should still be on this team it’s crazy the way they threw that kid away. If they do it with Rolando listening to a bunch of ignorant fans I’m done with this team………period
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You think the coaches are listening to fans? You’re kidding me right? All they have to do is watch him play.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 6:41 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.HWNRDR,DONT THINK I WILL HAVE TIME TO PRE-GAME WITH U THIS WEEK.WILL BE ON OTHER SIDE WITH A PARTY BUS.STOP BY MY SEATS ON UR WAY IN IF U HAVE TIME..
No problem…I’ll stop by your section prior to getting to ours on Sunday!
October 18th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Wow, I see there are some dummies here who think we need to draft a QB. If youre one of those guys, just shut up.
QB is not our main problem right now. In fact, its not a problem at all. Yet that is usually the solution that most dumba55 fans present when things arent going well.
A new QB wouldnt solve our teams issues.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Wait a minute…Dirt Lot…A Party Bus? Hey now, where’s the invites?…LOL
October 18th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Happy Carson Palmer Day! One year anniversary today. And Happy birthday to me.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Raider Riff Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Wow, I see there are some dummies here who think we need to draft a QB. If youre one of those guys, just shut up.
QB is not our main problem right now. In fact, its not a problem at all. Yet that is usually the solution that most dumba55 fans present when things arent going well.
A new QB wouldnt solve our teams issues.
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Exactly. Look at Denveer with the almighty Manning and sitting at 3-3.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Hey then you belong on that party bus as well!
Happy Birthday (and Happy Carson Palmer Day) to you, Purvisman!
October 18th, 2012 at 7:56 am
If we win Sunday, we are one game out of first place tie in the division. That’s crazy, but true.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Denver was already a playoff team last year. With a douche at QB. They had a lot to gain by upgrading the position.
We are both in agreeance that I dont see how going with a rookie QB is going to make our team better. You cant play much better than Palmer is right now, you can definitely play a lot worse.
A new QB isnt gong to fix our atrocious DE play, our TE dropping MULTIPLE redzone TDs, or our mystifying run game. And a rookie QB will only make our O-Line play even worse than it already is, and its pretty bad at the moment.
McFadden is so close to busting out of this slump and all of our problems will alleviate themselves. 90% of the time we are a simple block away from him breaking off huge runs. On the plays we do get it right, the ref’s toss a flag. Our O-Line is our biggest problem and its not a scheme thing. Its a physical thing. Just man to man getting beat like a wet rag sort of problem. When our blocking crew mans the F up then our team will start winning games.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:01 am
ust Win Baby Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 7:56 am
If we win Sunday, we are one game out of first place tie in the division. That’s crazy, but true.
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Exactly. There is a lot of season left. And our team is VERY close to getting it right.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am
hwnrdr Says: Hey then you belong on that party bus as well!==========Yeah, haven’t been to a game since ‘03. Need to get to one this year and put a face to some of these names in here.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:04 am
we can win sunday, just keep SlowMo on the sidelines and take the playcalling away from Knapy by keeping Carson in the no-huddle…Give the ball to Myers and Reece.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:07 am
RaiderClipz’s channel got pulled from YouTube.
Super lame. Best Raiders updates on the web.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:10 am
1-4 team dont make the playoffs.. at best they win afew too many games and ruin their draft pos.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:10 am
2010 was Hue’s offense. I think he was running PBS.
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No, 2010 was Cables offense. Davis just demanded Jackson turn the playcalling duties over to Jackson. Jackson did not get to install his offense til the next year.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Happy Birthday Llama Man.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am
No, 2010 was Cables offense. Davis just demanded Jackson turn the playcalling duties over to Jackson. Jackson did not get to install his offense til the next year.
Sorry, Davis demanded Cable turn the playcalling to Jackson. Still…..not awake yet
October 18th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Morning Nation! Happy birthday Purvman. Wheeler being given the helmet set to coach Tarver is a definate sign McClains snaps wont be increasing in the near future if at all rest of season. Now if we can just get them to take fuggin prevent out of the playbook!!!
October 18th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Wheeler had the helmet set last week too
October 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
It wasnt prevent. Our dbs just stink.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am
ONLY thing Hue got right was power blocking scheme- he kept T.J. Houshamazaddiolio over Hagan
October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am
40+ yards in 40 secs?!?!
Pathetic!!!
October 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
“Carson Palmer calls Sunday’s game a “must-win””
This article just headlined at PFT and it shows great leadership by Palmer coming out and letting everyone know how important this game is….that’s what leaders do not sit on the sidelines with a towel on your head sulking!
October 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Good looking game tonite.. but i just dont care to watch other teams when were 1-4.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
It wasnt prevent. Our dbs just stink.
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Interesting theory. Same DBs that played well the entire game?
Did they throw an INT too?
October 18th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Raider O Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am
40+ yards in 40 secs?!?!
Pathetic!!!
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Agreed. But it never should have been that close.
DMCs fumble. Pathetic.
Passing up a Jano 58 yarder. Bad decision on DA’s part.
Meyers dropped TD. Pathetic.
Our O-lines 3rd qtr play. Pathetic.
The ref’s killing us. Par for the course.
This game should not have been close at the end. I dont know why everyone here is ignoring the ref issue. They took 40yds of DMC running off the board and allowed Reece to be mugged constantly. This is a major issue right now.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Marks Hair Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Good looking game tonite.. but i just dont care to watch other teams when were 1-4.
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Word.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Since Dmac came into the league…every time Dmac runs past the 1st down marker, here comes the flag!
October 18th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Since Dmac came into the league…every time Dmac runs past the 1st down marker, here comes the flag!
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I’d love to see that stat. How many yards DMC has had taken away due to bogus calls.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Agreed our db’s are weak but to go from playing aggresive and 3 picks in first half to 8 guys 15yards off the ball an back peddling=loss
October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
“DMCs fumble. Pathetic.
Passing up a Jano 58 yarder. Bad decision on DA’s part.
Meyers dropped TD. Pathetic.
Our O-lines 3rd qtr play. Pathetic.
The ref’s killing us. Par for the course.”
Plus all the run yardage we gave up due to penalties.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Good to see you back Riff
October 18th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Rolando needs to show some heart. He needs to show some “want”.
The coaches are testing him right now. Testing his love for the game.
All the talent in the world wont make up for a guy that just doesnt love football. Reggie wants guys who LOVE the game. We can argue gap assignments and mistakes all we want but if Rolando doesnt love the game, its all a moot issue.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Wasn’t the DBs’ fault at all. Our Dline got no push on the final drive, except when we blitzed Burris. I think we are all aware that QB pressure is a GIANT problem from our Oline.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
October 18th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
“DMCs fumble. Pathetic.
Passing up a Jano 58 yarder. Bad decision on DA’s part.
Meyers dropped TD. Pathetic.
Our O-lines 3rd qtr play. Pathetic.
The ref’s killing us. Par for the course.”
Plus all the run yardage we gave up due to penalties.
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40 yards to be exact. That was why I referenced the ref’s killing us.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
This isnt Gannon’s Raiders. We’re not THAT good that we can overcome the refs. On a level playing field, we can be a better team on paper, but as long as Pete Rozelle’s thugs keep F’ing us over, we wont win much with this current squad unless this squad stops shooting itself in the feet.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
This is exactly why I didn’t want the ‘regular’ refs back! 12 penalties against the Raiders—VS–2 against the Falcons…and they are tackling Reece coming out of his break and no calls…Unreal, and its been going on for 30 freakin years man. Such Bull$hit!
Also, the thing about Pryor is ridiculous. Nobody says Carson and Pryor can’t be on the field together at the SAME time! You got a guy who is 6-5 and runs a 4.4 sitting on the bench in STREETCLOTHES! Yeah, make sure you don’t try to get him the ball 2-3 times a game whatever you do. These coaches man, they just don’t display ANY creativity at all! These coaches are boring as hell and they make this team boring as hell, all while losing! Hey guys, you might want to take the governor off the golf cart and get your a$$es in gear. The best teams are CREATIVE in their approach..they do things that other teams don’t think they will do, things they haven’t seen before…Not us! Throw on First down: Incomplete. Run on Second Down: 2 yard Gain. Throw on 3rd Down: 4 yard completion.
Punt..
And on and on..
October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
“Wasn’t the DBs’ fault at all. Our Dline got no push on the final drive, except when we blitzed Burris. I think we are all aware that QB pressure is a GIANT problem from our Oline.”
Good point Seymour and Kelly will be gone next year I would bet our first 3 or 4 draft picks will be on the defensive side of the ball.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Good to see you back Riff
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Thanks brotha.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Passing up a Jano 58 yarder. Bad decision on DA’s part.
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Dumbest Punt Ever! I couldn’t believe they didn’t kick it. Stupid..
Also, I aint seen Lechler kick one inside the 20 in what seems like 3 games. He’s been pretty crappy this season.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
MikieG Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
This is exactly why I didn’t want the ‘regular’ refs back! 12 penalties against the Raiders—VS–2 against the Falcons…and they are tackling Reece coming out of his break and no calls…Unreal, and its been going on for 30 freakin years man. Such Bull$hit!
Also, the thing about Pryor is ridiculous. Nobody says Carson and Pryor can’t be on the field together at the SAME time! You got a guy who is 6-5 and runs a 4.4 sitting on the bench in STREETCLOTHES! Yeah, make sure you don’t try to get him the ball 2-3 times a game whatever you do. These coaches man, they just don’t display ANY creativity at all! These coaches are boring as hell and they make this team boring as hell, all while losing! Hey guys, you might want to take the governor off the golf cart and get your a$$es in gear. The best teams are CREATIVE in their approach..they do things that other teams don’t think they will do, things they haven’t seen before…Not us! Throw on First down: Incomplete. Run on Second Down: 2 yard Gain. Throw on 3rd Down: 4 yard completion.
Punt..
And on and on..
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Your first paragraph is spot on.
Your second paragraph is off the mark. We have been plenty “creative”. Our players simply cant handle the basics at the moment. When we stop dropping red zone TDs and stop fumbling all over the place, then the coaches will get more confident in gimmick stuff.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
392.RaiderIN.260 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Agreed our db’s are weak but to go from playing aggresive and 3 picks in first half to 8 guys 15yards off the ball an back peddling=loss
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If played aggressive Ryan goes over the top. Those passes on the final drive were all 3 yards from the LOS except the final one to Gonzo. If our Dline got a little push or we make 1 stinking tackle in the field of play the game is over. We also didn’t have 8 db’s on the field, we had 4 dl for 4 of the 6 plays, and 2 lbs for all 6.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
“Our players simply cant handle the basics at the moment. When we stop dropping red zone TDs and stop fumbling all over the place, then the coaches will get more confident in gimmick stuff.”
Yeah and a perfect example of this is Tiwan Jones benched for fumbling on a reverse.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:47 am
the refs cost us the game flat out. 12 penalties to 2? really? our oline/run game WILL improve and we’re gonna make it interesting in the AFC west
October 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
“Our players simply cant handle the basics at the moment. When we stop dropping red zone TDs and stop fumbling all over the place, then the coaches will get more confident in gimmick stuff.”
Yeah and a perfect example of this is Tiwan Jones benched for fumbling on a reverse.
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So then he should be covering punts for the rest of his career? Jesus, it was the first game of the season..Can somebody get the kid a few touches? Perhaps remove him from the milk carton? Pryor’s talent and ability being utterly and completely dismissed by sitting him on the bench in sweatpants helps us how again? Ridiculous.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Remember that Indians fan from the “Major League” baseball movies, that just yells at the team, and is really really annoying?
I think his name is SULLLIVAN44.
Those are NOT real Raider fans. Not Raider Nation.
Just another moron seeking attention.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am
“Can somebody get the kid a few touches? Perhaps remove him from the milk carton? Pryor’s talent and ability being utterly and completely dismissed by sitting him on the bench in sweatpants helps us how again? Ridiculous.”
Its crazy when you look across the bay at the way they are using Kapernick and we got a guy like that sitting on the bench but yeah if we cant do the simple things first how can we get creative on offense.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
The Niners didnt bring Kapernick in until they had won a few more games than they lost, only then did they start installing Kapernick.
We’re not there yet. Not even close.
Win the next 3 in a row and then we can start talking about mixing things up with Pryor.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I think its simply a footspeed issue with 55 on passing downs.
Makes no sense to have a big guy like that trying to cover people downfield.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:04 am
411 nice post Riff I agree
October 18th, 2012 at 9:05 am
[...] This weekend’s game between the Raiders and the Jaguars is not one of those times. Only seven of the last 156 teams to start a season 1-4 have gone on to make the playoffs and dropping four games under .500 will make it incredibly hard to become the eighth team to pull off that trick. So Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer was exactly right on Wednesday when he addressed the urgency of the situation. [...]
October 18th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Should Curry be groomed to replace Mcclain at MLB, keeping Burris in on passing downs? He’s the only one stout enough but teams will wanna expose Curry in the passing game as he’s even worse than Mccalin in coverage…
October 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
I understand your point, but IMO, we need to pull out all the stops, push all the chips to the middle of the table and go all in. This pu$$yfooting around isn’t accomplishing anything. I don’t think it can hurt AT ALL trying a few things. Hell, this whole season has been one big pre-season game anyway. Seriously, What do we have to lose?? Nothing!
We have everything to gain.
Doesn’t matter what I say anyway, Allen has made it clear that he wants no part of Pryor even getting into a game this season…Sorta like he wanted no part of Jano kicking a 58 yarder….WHICH IS WHY HE WAS DRAFTED no less. SMH…
October 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Allen would have sent Jano out for that 58 yarder if they were inside the 2:00 minute warning and down by 7.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Jags are looking this as a game they can win. MJD wants to shine in front of friends and family. Jags will be ready and they’re still an NFL team
October 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
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to steal a line from the GreenParty President….
ok then fuk you guys !!
October 18th, 2012 at 9:14 am
The jags are giving up like 160 yards/game on the ground. Time for DMC to have a big game, as long as his big runs don t get called back.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:16 am
WILL HAVE AN ALL GRASS FIELD THIS WEEK.FOR ALL WHO CRY ABOUT THE DIRT..
October 18th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Jags are looking this as a game they can win. MJD wants to shine in front of friends and family. Jags will be ready and they’re still an NFL team
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And they are coming off a bye. They will be more than prepared.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:20 am
418.inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Jags are looking this as a game they can win. MJD wants to shine in front of friends and family. Jags will be ready and they’re still an NFL team
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Blaine Gabbert’s not an NFL QB though.
Keep 8 in the box and dare him to beat you. Even with a depleted secondary he won’t be able to do it.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:27 am
415.inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Should Curry be groomed to replace Mcclain at MLB, keeping Burris in on passing downs? He’s the only one stout enough but teams will wanna expose Curry in the passing game as he’s even worse than Mccalin in coverage…
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Personally I think Curry in the middle would be fantastic. I just don’t know how his body feels about that. Having:
Burris / Curry / Wheeler
as our guys….That’s alot of hatred.
Burris is ALWAYS amped up. So much that he needs to calm down actually…But THAT attitude is what we’re looking for
Wheeler is playing great ball. Does nothing great in particular but does ALL things good I would say. Plus he’s been the only one whose been “Lighting Up” the QB for us. We may get a few knock downs per game but Wheeler has been laying some slobber knockers.
And Curry is just a savage. He hits REAL hard. He never takes plays “OFF” and everything about him is hustle. I’ll take his personal foul penalties for knocking the SH*T outta Tight Ends. Anyday…..ANY GAWD DAMNED DAY…Gimmie some ferocious hitting and persuit over “Jogging and perceived lack of caring”.
These three guys have “IT” in reference to the defensive mindset. THEY…..are Boar Hunters.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Personally I think Curry in the middle would be fantastic. I just don’t know how his body feels about that. Having:
Burris / Curry / Wheeler
as our guys….That’s alot of hatred.
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LOL, that’s a nice way of putting it.
I REALLY hope they try Curry in the middle if/when he’s physically up to speed.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Palmer at home vs gabbert on the road. This looks like an advantage for oakland, as we fully expect palmer to make at least fewer mistakes than hhis counterpart. However in order to get there our line backers and d line must find a way to stop mjd and jennings. These guys have killed us over the last few years.
Jax knows their qb is struggling, im certain they want to minimize the impact of potential mistakes by running the football. The jag running game has scuffled a bit, but Like our struggling running back, this guy is capable of exploding at any moment.
We must be able to sustain drives and this is where i think we may have a good chance of winning this game. Palmer must go back to what he did early in the season and use the dink and dunk method. When palmer starts trying to throw it 20 yards plus, either to the sideline or down the filed he struggles. This is where the majority of his interceptions have come during his stay in oakland. he mst stay patient and throw underneath. I believe that dhb must be a primary target in this scenario. DHb has improved going down field however i still feel he is best as a catch and run receiver. His size and body he has learned to use as a barrier between the ball and defender, and he catches in traffic well on slants. Bubble screens and reverses should be employed as well. Palmer should be able to mange this game, as the jags defense is toothless against the pass.
They are also very poor against the run, so this could be a break out game for dmac. Or at least a better stats line, jax gives up 163 yards per game.
To lose this game would be beyond unacceptable, from both the coaching staff to the players, everyone would be and should be under the microscope.
This is truly a measuring stick game, fighting off the dregs and bottom feeders, grasping desperately for mediocrity.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Allen would have sent Jano out for that 58 yarder if they were inside the 2:00 minute warning and down by 7.
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AMEN!
October 18th, 2012 at 9:39 am
We need to get around Gabberts legs, get him dirty, knock him around, force a few pics and make them one dimensional.
Wouldn’t it be GREAT to have a laugher at home for a change. Just blow these fvckers outta California? Im tired of these cardiac arrest games..I want a 21 point blowout so I can actually enjoy myself for once.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:40 am
“Carson Palmer calls Sunday’s game a “must-win””
This article just headlined at PFT and it shows great leadership by Palmer coming out and letting everyone know how important this game is….that’s what leaders do not sit on the sidelines with a towel on your head sulking!
October 18th, 2012 at 9:41 am
#412 exactly 55 in coverage reminds of the Tyler Brayton experiment…dam ugly
October 18th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Go Jags! #1 pick baby!
October 18th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Dakota, you want another #1…just having nightmarish flashbacks of the not so long ago #1 experiment!
October 18th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Reggie will not select a lazy drug addict #1 overall like Al Davis did.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:54 am
If we get a top 5 pick you can bet your paycheck that RM will trade down for multiple picks as there are so many holes to fill on this team….DT DE CB MLB the list goes on plus we do not have a 2nd round or 5th round pick he could easily fix that by trading down.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:55 am
No Luck or RGIII-don’t want the 1st pick this year.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Lots of good DEs and DTs at the top of the draft.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Then we don’t need the 1st pick.:)
October 18th, 2012 at 10:04 am
For some weird reason I worry that Raiders come into this game overconfident.
Then again, I worry about everything when it comes to the Raiders.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:05 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
WILL HAVE AN ALL GRASS FIELD THIS WEEK.FOR ALL WHO CRY ABOUT THE DIRT..=============================Where’s the shout out from No Mas Diamante?
October 18th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I think the top of this year’s draft class is pretty weak overall, honestly.
Jarvis Jones, Star Lotulelei, Johnthan Banks and Sam Mongtomery are the only defensive players I’d spend a top 10 pick on. Offensively, it’s Geno Smith and Keenan Allen.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Geno Smith didn’t look too good last week.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I wanna see how Geno’s stats line up against good defenses.
Looking at Pryor he was good all around, then when you loooked closer at how he did against tough defenses…it was a different story.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
even palmer knows he blew the game and for the first time in his miserable life he took the blame.===Meanwhile your instant upgrade golden haired hero countinues to to solidify his place in sports infamy. As The number one draft bust that quit on his team and never could live up to hype. The diva malcontent locker room killer that couldnt lead flies to shidd. Palmer continues throw miserable picks, and rack up the losses.=====================Mistic, why bother damning Palmer with faint praise? Your true feelings are known by everyone. Happy Carson Palmer Day!
October 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Now that the money doesn’t mater as much for high first round draft picks you want the highest pick, especially in a weak draft, so you can get one of the few guys who are worth it.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Now that the money doesn’t mater as much for high first round draft picks you want the highest pick, especially in a weak draft, so you can get one of the few guys who are worth it.
You got a point there! But I rather get high first round drafts than first…IDK, means that we are not losing the season out…
October 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
What’s with this throw in the towel attitude? Come on, people. Need I remind you we are in the AFC West? Finish off the year string and who knows…
October 18th, 2012 at 10:25 am
*strong
October 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
446.The Big Banana Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
What’s with this throw in the towel attitude? Come on, people. Need I remind you we are in the AFC West? Finish off the year string and who knows…
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I know right? My expectations for the year are drastically different than they were after the draft, I will admit….But ALL I want….and I mean ALL I want to see, is inspired football. EFFORT, going for it, not going quietly into the night.
People wanna say that Atlanta was looking past us, and just trying to get to the bye, playing like Sh*t and whatever. Maybe they were (a little bit)…
But damnit, I saw the Raiders play their best ball of the season (Penalties aside). Even better than the Pitt game. I don’t give a sh*t, the Raiders came to play on Sunday and they competed hard. I believe they gave their very best effort Sunday. Unfortunately through penalties and a closing defensive scheme, they came away with a loss. Yeah the Carson pick…Back breaker for sure, but he drove them down and scored on the following possession and at least gave them a SHOT at pulling it off.
Bring that hustle from here on out and I will be proud of them. I ain’t mailing in SH*T this year unless THEY do.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
When you are 1-4 your season is over. It was actually over when we started 0-2, but hey, sometimes it takes a while for things to sink in for this fan base.
Time to trade McClain, Seymour, Huff, Palmer, and Kelly to anyone who will give us some draft picks.
Start the young guys to see what we have, which will tank the season for better picks. Who knows, maybe Pryor will surprise some of us?
Fire the incompetent Knapp.
And trade McFadden to a team who will know how to use him. Letting a talent like his waste on a team like the 2012 Oakland Raiders is a tragedy. Much like watching Moss rot here was a tragedy. Trade him for a second round pick and let him get his career going with a team that has a clue.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
There is no one player or position that is likely to make a huge difference for The Raiders in the draft, but if it is the evaluation of The Raider’s brain trust that Gino Smith is a franchise level QB, and he is there when The Raiders draft, then they need to take him. If there is an Arron Rogers there when you draft you need to take him even if you already have a Bret Favre on your roster. Gino Smith didn’t have a great game last week, but 25 TD’s verses 0 Int’s is an unbelievable stat.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:58 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Geno Smith didn’t look too good last week.
DJ Johnny Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I wanna see how Geno’s stats line up against good defenses.
Looking at Pryor he was good all around, then when you loooked closer at how he did against tough defenses…it was a different story.
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Classic, dismissing geno but never really watched him play obviously.
geno was very good against texas tech, the wvu defense is awful and geno must win shootouts every week. you take geno off the squad and it is a 4-6 win team
Geno last week vs texas tech (which ended in a loss)
29 /55 275 yds 1 td 0 int 100.7 rate
October 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Time to trade McClain, Seymour, Huff, Palmer, and Kelly to anyone who will give us some draft picks.
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LOL am i dreaming?!?!?!? this dude bails on palmer?!?!?!? HILARIOUS?
Late to the party but better late than never i guess
October 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
25 TD’s verses 0 Int’s is impressive against any competition.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:03 am
In 2005, the Palmer-led Cincinnati Bengals ended fifteen years of futility by notching their first winning season since 1990 and winning the division with an 11–5 record.
Statistically, Palmer had a stellar individual season, throwing a league-high 32 touchdown passes and leading the league in completion percentage. He became the first Cincinnati Bengals quarterback to finish with a quarterback rating over 100, setting the team record in that category; and he also tied Indianapolis’ Peyton Manning for most consecutive games, 9, with a triple-digit quarterback rating. Net worth: $80 million USD (2009). Been in the league almost 10 years. Hates losing more than he loves winning. There’s mistics pathetic, miserable, losing, quitting bust of a QB. Happy Carson Palmer Day!
October 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
452.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Time to trade McClain, Seymour, Huff, Palmer, and Kelly to anyone who will give us some draft picks.
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LOL am i dreaming?!?!?!? this dude bails on palmer?!?!?!? HILARIOUS?
Late to the party but better late than never i guess
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I am not bailing on Palmer. Palmer is a good QB who could help a team that was on the cusp. We are not that team. This is a full-on rebuild. We had hoped that we could build on last year’s 8-8 record, but that has gone by the wayside. I still like Palmer, but it is pointless to let him waste the rest of his career here on a team that is clearly years away from competing on a meaningful level.
Now that the season is over I would rather evaluate Pryor. Let him sink or swim, and then we will have no doubt whether or not we need a QB in the 2013 draft. Of course I don’t believe Pryor will be the answer, but you never know!
October 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Season’s not over. We got a real shot at winning the next 3 and get back to 4-4, and FWIW, I think we go onto 6 out the next 7. Not sure if we end up making the playoffs as the late season schedule is tough. But it’s way too early to write off the season.
Carson Palmer is right that Sunday’s gave at home vs JAX is a MUST WIN capital italic underlined large font. Anything less than a W and you can go ahead and keep raggin on the new Regime and on and on to sad little hearts content.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Time to trade McClain, Seymour, Huff, Palmer, and Kelly to anyone who will give us some draft picks.
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keep Huff (to play corner) keep palmer (best player on team) the rest can go.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Barring a major injury to Palmer, the worst this team will be is 6-6 heading into what will be a huge game on December 6th against Denver. Print that.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Season is over. The season actually ended the day we hired Greg knapp. All of you Knapp and McClain apologists should be ashamed of yourselves!
October 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
In fact it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the team finishes 9-7 and we’re all left asking “What if” about the Atlanta game.
DRINK THE KOOL AID IT TASTES DELICIOUS
October 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I never liked the Knapp hire. I won’t apologize for him if I never endorsed him. I was on the original co-sign list for his demotion/firing after the first week. Didn’t like what I saw in preseason either. I have been on record numerous times to cut #55 ASAP.
But we can win by showing #55 the sidelines like we did at ATL, and we can win despite Knapp’s playcalling. At some point the players need to make plays and push through the pile. You see it happening already. It’s not as bad as it looks.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Look at the schedule. Tell me this isn’t 100% plausible:
W vs. Jacksonville
W @ Kansas City
W vs. Tampa Bay
L @ Baltimore
L vs. New Orleans
W @ Cincinnati
W vs. Cleveland
L vs. Denver
W vs. Kansas City
W @ Carolina
W @ San Diego
That’s 9-7 and that’s not crazy to think it could shake out exactly like that.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:15 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Barring a major injury to Palmer, the worst this team will be is 6-6 heading into what will be a huge game on December 6th against Denver. Print that.
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Printed in bold font.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Look at the schedule. Tell me this isn’t 100% plausible:
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It is not plausible so long as Grag Knapp and his failed version of the ZBS stays. Sorry, we can’t win if we can’t run the ball.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Dakota how could you truly evaluate pryor on a team like this? if palmer is just now starting to get a good grasp of the O and the pass protection still leaves something to be desired what qb would swim? I’m not sayn your wrong just saying they could put the kid in a better situation by fixing the Oline up a bit before the let him get killed out there and watch him sink to the bottom of the bay which he may never recover.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Even Baltimore is a possibility. They got decimated with injuries on their defense and Flacco is just no damn good as a QB, I don’t care what the “experts” at ESPN say.
The Saints are in a very bad way defensively. Losing TE Graham is their only physical receiving option. They can be pushed around and out-physicaled. They can be had too.
No reason to think Denver can’t be had, especially at home with a possible playoff shot on the line.
I’m calling it right now. The season turning point happened the day the Reggime saw fit to sit #55’s lazy arse in ATL. He’s the cancer that feeds the losses. He’s directly responsible. He’s the Jamarcus Russell of the defense. We should cut him or put him on IR for a made up injury. He sucks balls.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:22 am
464.Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am
It is not plausible so long as Grag Knapp and his failed version of the ZBS stays. Sorry, we can’t win if we can’t run the ball.
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McFadden goes off for 250+ (combined) rushing yards over the next two weeks.
Feast on the bad teams to get confidence and get rolling for the good ones.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Do you guys realize that RGIII was not very highly recruited? Even a kid that has always played nothing but qb with his immense undeniable talent to throw the football was only offered a few scholarships.
tenn and nebraska offered but were not going to let him play qb.
THEY WERENT GOING TO LET HIM PLAY QB?!?!?!?!?!?! thier old antiquated thinking and obsolete concept of what a qb is and isnt came back to bit them., as both are now struggling to find any kind of consistent play from thier qb’s. (Bray was projected as a top draft pick coming in, but he is not very good in my opinion)
I know, its ridiculous. This is why and how he ended up at baylor, that was the only school that promisd to let him compete strictly at qb.
This is the quandary that guys like griffin face, then when they make it at the college level, they are often faced with another wave of fans, coaches and media that want them to switch positions.
From lenny moore, to tP6 the story remains the same.
Thank god art briles allowed him to compete at his true and natural position or we would have been robbed of one of the greatest qb careers in college history.
Thank god that shanahan is wise enough to roll with the changing tide, and even fuel it, or we would never be treated to RGIII unique brand of football dismantling and baffling defenses week after week.
It will soon be time to unwrap tp6 and see what the kid can do. for all the knocks on him about his passing, he actually posted very nice stats and made explosive plays when he got on the field.
19-of-32 passes (59.4 percent) for 251 yards (7.8 yards per attempt) with two touchdowns and one interception (passer rating of 92.1) and ran for another 121 yards on 14 carries with one touchdown.
Thank god fro RGIII, and cam newton, because the more success they have the more it opens doors for guys that other wise would never get a look at playing qb in college or at the pro level.
This bodes well for pryor, as the intrigue will continue to grow, and reasons for not playing him will continue to dwindle with each passing loss.
While I expect the raiders to win at least one of the next 3 i do believ that by the time we reach the final 1/4 of the season we will be out of contention and playing for draft order.
We will then get a look at our 23 year old super prospect. i cant wait.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
eastoaklandraider,
What you are saying has merit. But some things are not going to be fixed this season, and the o-line is one of them. So the choice is keep wasting Palmer’s time and talent on a schyyyt team like this, or trade him and get something for him while we still can, and then see how Pryor performs under adversity.
Almost every young QB starts his career playing on a crappy team with a crappy o-line, so at this point, why not let Pryor play? He will either get crushed and go away, which means he didn’t have “it” anyhow, or he will learn and get better and show the coaching staff that maybe the QB position isn’t something that needs to be addressed high in the 2013 draft.
At this point, on a team that is going nowhere fast, there is nothing to lose by making that move.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
guest123 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Even Baltimore is a possibility. They got decimated with injuries on their defense and Flacco is just no damn good as a QB, I don’t care what the “experts” at ESPN say.
The Saints are in a very bad way defensively. Losing TE Graham is their only physical receiving option. They can be pushed around and out-physicaled. They can be had too.
No reason to think Denver can’t be had, especially at home with a possible playoff shot on the line.
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I agree Baltimore is beatable, but they’ll always be a tough out at home. Not confident on that one.
New Orleans..who are they really this season? The team that came back against the Chargers or the team that got beat by an awful KC squad? Tough to tell
Still can’t get a read on the Manning-led Donks. Are they the team that got down by 24 in one half or the team that hung 30+ unanswered to come back?
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
guest123 post 456. You plan that?
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Who cares about RG3 or Cam Newton? Is this the Redskins or Panthers board? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? If they don’t play for the S&B, fook em anyways.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Hey, even I’ll say though that this is my last gasp of optimism.
Raiders lay an egg on Sunday, it’s time to trade the universe and tank for the best possible draft pick.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
It is reasonable to think that McClain could be facing a suspension next season if his court trial doesn’t go well. Who knows how long? 4 games? 8 games? In light of the fact that the defense looked better without him on the field as much, it seems wise to get use to playing without him.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
guest123 post 456. You plan that?
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I actually predicted a 1-4 start back in June. I got into a conversation that Rockstar started and I had us rebounding from 1-4 start to win 6 out the next 7 and then finish 9-7. I still had us not making the playoffs on a tie-breaker. So far I’ve been proven right!
October 18th, 2012 at 11:30 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Look at the schedule. Tell me this isn’t 100% plausible:
W vs. Jacksonville
W @ Kansas City
W vs. Tampa Bay
L @ Baltimore
L vs. New Orleans
W @ Cincinnati
W vs. Cleveland
L vs. Denver
W vs. Kansas City
W @ Carolina
W @ San Diego
That’s 9-7 and that’s not crazy to think it could shake out exactly like that.
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sounds good but I doubt it. this team has yet to show that kind of consistency a big win against the jags would go along way and I dont mean a nail bitter then a win on the road in KC which is always tough would show me something then I would sing a different tune. these next two games will tell the story of our season heading back home to play TB. if we beat jax and KC our momentum will be great and we will crush TB at home and be 4-4 and back in it, if we lose to jax or KC it will just be the same ole Raiders. NO CONSISTENCY.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
6-6 and then 9-7?
Are you people flat out crazy?
Deaf, dumb and blind?
Retarded maybe?
I can hear Callahan now, “Dumbest fans in America!”
October 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
guest123 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Who cares about RG3 or Cam Newton? Is this the Redskins or Panthers board? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? If they don’t play for the S&B, fook em anyways.
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no gradkowski lover, i was drawing a comparison to A RAIDER TP6.
My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.
Im looking forward to seeing pryor in the mix at the end of the season.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Mistic, congratulations, man! Although not deviating from your agenda, you managed to create a lengthy post(#468) about QB’s without damning Palmer with faint praise or outright dissing him. In honor of Carson Palmer Day, no doubt.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
6-6 and then 9-7?
Are you people flat out crazy?
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The schedule eases up: Jags, Chiefs twice, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Tampa, Carolina
October 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
eastoaklandraider,
What you are saying has merit. But some things are not going to be fixed this season, and the o-line is one of them. So the choice is keep wasting Palmer’s time and talent on a schyyyt team like this, or trade him and get something for him while we still can, and then see how Pryor performs under adversity.
Almost every young QB starts his career playing on a crappy team with a crappy o-line, so at this point, why not let Pryor play? He will either get crushed and go away, which means he didn’t have “it” anyhow, or he will learn and get better and show the coaching staff that maybe the QB position isn’t something that needs to be addressed high in the 2013 draft.
At this point, on a team that is going nowhere fast, there is nothing to lose by making that move.
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go with pryor when were mathematically eliminated, as of now with us just 1 1/2 games out we still have a shot a long shot but a shot.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Some people just make no sense
Some people will vote Republican.
They think the economy is recovering too slowly, so they’ll vote for the tax cuts and deregulations that got us into this mess.
They feel that unemployment is too high, so they’ll vote for the guy who made his fortune closing American companies and offshoring jobs to China.
They want unemployment lower, so they’ll vote for the party that blocked 0bama’s jobs bill.
They support smaller government, so they’ll vote for the party that will intrude government into every woman’s private medical choices.
They get angry every time their medical insurance goes up, so they’ll vote for making Medicare a private insurance voucher system.
They worry about their retirement savings, so they’ll vote for the candidates who say Social Security recipients are “moochers” and propose cutting payments.
They are concerned about the growing deficit, so they’ll vote for reducing tax revenue from the very rich and increasing Pentagon purchases above what the military wants or needs.
They believe America’s reputation is Number One, so they’ll vote for the party that threatened to lower our nation’s credit rating just to preserve tax breaks for the richest.
They hate special tax loopholes, so they’ll vote for the guy who pays 13 percent tax on his income while the rest of us pay up to 35 percent.
They want leaders to obey the law, so they’ll vote for the candidate who won’t release his tax returns which may reveal hiding income in offshore banks.
They know the war in Iraq was a wasteful failure, so they’ll vote for the guy who’d start a war with Iran.
Some people …! Go figure.
Bruce Joffe
Piedmont
October 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Even though we didn’t see the results in the win column, you can see that big changes were made over the bye week. Personnel are being evaluated and packages are being modified. It’s not coaches mindlessly trying the same things. They are adapting to the personnel on hand. If you can’t see that you are missing the forrest for the trees.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
guest123 post 456. Just amused by the numerical sequence.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
“Statistically, Palmer had a stellar individual season, throwing a league-high 32 touchdown passes and leading the league in completion percentage. He became the first Cincinnati Bengals quarterback to finish with a quarterback rating over 100, setting the team record in that category; and he also tied Indianapolis’ Peyton Manning for most consecutive games, 9, with a triple-digit quarterback rating. Net worth: $80 million USD (2009). Been in the league almost 10 years. Hates losing more than he loves winning. There’s mistics pathetic, miserable, losing, quitting bust of a QB. Happy Carson Palmer Day!”
Nice post Happy Carson Palmer day!
October 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.
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When did he show that? I watched all 4 preseason games. He literally made 4 plays. 2 long runs and 2 long prayers that Criner made him look good on (by Pryor’s own admission.)
October 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
The donks and dischargers are not much better than us and they still have tough games to play. AFC west still wide open.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
AFC west still wide open.
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Yep, very wide open and very mediocre to bad division top to bottom.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Manning is improving on a weekly basis. We are not going to win this division. Get real.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
All football, all morning. Good vs. bad. Smart vs. dumb. Contentious. But all football. Wait, we need some politics in here. Thank god for KK. GTFO.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
guest123 post 456. Just amused by the numerical sequence.
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Ah! I see now. My wife does that too. Always goes over my head though. She see patterns in everything. You must be a puzzle solving genius as well.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:44 am
tony romo, , and carson palmer.
All have posted explosive stats at various points i thier careers, all have struggled with turnovers at others points.
neither has shown they can carry a team to wins consistently.
romo and palmer have struggled to even get into the playoff most of thier careers.
The bungles under achieved for several seasons before telling palmer “go ahead and quit, we dont need want or even like you that much”. romo and the cow pies are yearly disappointments, and romo has been a major goat with post season gaffs, and wild fluctuations in production in the regular season.
These are classic cases of qbs that may produce stats but dont lead wins and cant be called great. i have a hard time beleiving that any one of these two will ever become the “elite qb” they have been billed to be so late in thier careers.
they are like neil lomax, stan humphries, kerry collins, jeff george, danny white and so on.
These qb didnt win and eventually were let go even in the midst of posting solid individual stats.
When the team loses qb is always at risk of losing his starting gig, especially if it is an aging vet.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
You got it, Silverandblack666.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Manning is improving on a weekly basis. We are not going to win this division. Get real.
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Manning got his helmet popped off his head last game. He’s a ticking time bomb and it’s a matter of time. I say he’s 50/50 that he last to the end of the season.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:47 am
guest123 Says: You must be a puzzle solving genius as well.=========Genius, no. But I do love ‘em and also see patterns in everything.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Andy Reid finally fired his DC….a year too late. Allen might waste next season giving Knapp another chance as well.
What is it with these coaches?
Are they best friends or something?
Greg Knapp literally ruined Dennis Allen’s once in a lifetime coaching opportunity, and he still doesn’t see it. SMH
October 18th, 2012 at 11:47 am
None of us know how good TP6 is or isnt as we have never seen him with the ones, Luck,RGiii,Cam,Wilson, have all had that luxury. TP6 cant be that far behind those guys.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
494.guest123 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Manning is improving on a weekly basis. We are not going to win this division. Get real.
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Manning got his helmet popped off his head last game. He’s a ticking time bomb and it’s a matter of time. I say he’s 50/50 that he last to the end of the season.
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Pft, the man never missed a game for injury for his entire career, and his docs say his neck is as strong, or even stronger than before. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Manning injury if I were you.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Greg Knapp literally ruined Dennis Allen’s once in a lifetime coaching opportunity, and he still doesn’t see it. SMH
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Yeah sure. It was Greg that ruined it for DA. He hog-tied him and forced him to be the OC with a gun to his head. It wasn’t DA’s decision to hire Knapp. He was brainwashed into it. Maybe knapp used a vulcan mind meld??
October 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
The Beeeech Diggity knew as soon he saw KrappyRat’s long post that it was a lame cut & paste job
The old Troll can barely put together 2 sentences on his own, let alone an entire paragraph
Funny how he pastes a crazed political rant on a sports blog when he recently announced he only talks Raiders
Sorry old Troll, had no choice but to smack you down. Just keepin’ it real
October 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
guest123 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Who cares about RG3 or Cam Newton? Is this the Redskins or Panthers board? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? If they don’t play for the S&B, fook em anyways.
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no gradkowski lover, i was drawing a comparison to A RAIDER TP6.
My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.
Im looking forward to seeing pryor in the mix at the end of the season.
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Translation:
Mistic: “I’m black, and have a huge chip on my shoulder. Cam is black. RG is black. TP is black. The more I heap praise on black qb’s, the better I feel. Yes, I admit it. I live vicariously through other black peoples success, all the while blaming wh!tey for holding me down. If/when TP fails, and falls on his face, I guarantee you I will blame Wh!tey for not giving him a chance. PERIOD.”
October 18th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Pft, the man never missed a game for injury for his entire career, and his docs say his neck is as strong, or even stronger than before. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Manning injury if I were you.
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I’m pretty familiar with neck injuries, and I know people with neck surgeries and fused cadaver bones. It’s no joke. These guys may be world class atheletes but they are only human too. That neck is the bionic man’s neck which puts him football years brittle and ready for pasture soon. You’ll see soon enough. It’s not anything I’m hoping for either. Father time has his own way of deciding things.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Hey MaddenRaider (Sully44)…..I thought you considered yourself a black man? What gives with the hate on Mistic1?
October 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
What RG111 is doing this year and what Cam Newton did last year is no different than what Teblow did. A coach SIMPLIFIED or dummyed down the offense to an almost college level and teams are having and have had a hard time adjusting to it.
Eventually teams figure it out which is why you are seeing Cam Newton have such a bad year…when you take the training wheels off he cant ride the bike anymore….same thing will happen to RG111 next year.
We have seen running QB’s since Fran Tarkington to Randell Cunningham to Kordel Stewart to what we see today and the one thing they all have in common is they don’t win super bowls and they get hurt a lot from all the running they do..so much for your new wave of QB’s.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I’ve got high hopes for Pryor and wouldn’t mind seeing some situational plays with him, if appropriate. Hate to take a playmaker off the field, but even as a decoy the defense would would definitely be paying attention to him. That said, no way do you turn over games to him until we’re mathematically eliminated or up or down so bad in a game that the outcome is 99% certain. Denver comes to mind. Letting Palmer continue taking that beating late was inexcusable.
of course throwing a raw TP out there might have been dumb, also. That’s what Lionheart’s here for. Should have thrown him to the wolves.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am
bcz24 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am
My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.
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When did he show that? I watched all 4 preseason games. He literally made 4 plays. 2 long runs and 2 long prayers that Criner made him look good on (by Pryor’s own admission.)
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he got better with every single snap, and by the third game he was making plays and our offense was explosive.
I ahve already posted his preseason stats, he posted the best numbers in the preseason out of any qb on our team, and he led a win. Maybe you didnt see it, but im finding people dont want to give him credit for his passing ability here. the numbers dont lie
That is reason to believe he deserves a chance to show what he can do in a real game once we are mathematically out of it.
If you plan on keeping palmer than no need to risk injury at the end of the year in the last meaning less 3-4 games.
If your not sold on palmer and his 16 million next year evaluate pryor and get a jump o the draft.
pretty standard in the nfl really
October 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
guest123 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Who cares about RG3 or Cam Newton? Is this the Redskins or Panthers board? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? If they don’t play for the S&B, fook em anyways.
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no gradkowski lover, i was drawing a comparison to A RAIDER TP6.
My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.
Im looking forward to seeing pryor in the mix at the end of the season.
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Talk about tainted rose colored glasses? TP is on par? In what world? Did you actually watch his play? He look lost. Looked confused. Looked like what he was, a rookie with a ton of work to do. Why set your self up like that? We don’t even know if he can be the #1 backup, because all he proved is he’s a project. A big project. With no guarantees he can even play at the NFL level.
Except in your mind.
Why?
Because he’s black.
See what I mean? You go on and on how TP should be out there, when no one except you is sure he’s NFL ready.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Here’s a name you draft types will be hearing more of as the weeks pass and who would look VERY VERY good in silver and black:
Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M. 6′4″, 250 lbs.
So far he has 8.5 sacks, 15 TFL, 4 QB hurries, 1 pass deflection, 1 forced fumble and 1 blocked kick….all this through just *six* games.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
666,
Steve Young was a running QB who won the SB…..but he could toss the rock pretty well too., lol.
Why didn’t Al go after him again?
October 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
new post
October 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Sully purged himself of a lot of idiocy last night and is almost making sense. Still trying to foment discord, naturally, but hey, let’s enjoy it while we can before his dumb tank fills up again.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Lol at Purvisman. Happy Carson Palmer day!
October 18th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
6-6 and then 9-7?
Are you people flat out crazy?
Deaf, dumb and blind?
Retarded maybe?
I can hear Callahan now, “Dumbest fans in America!”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO WD.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
What RG111 is doing this year and what Cam Newton did last year is no different than what Teblow did. A coach SIMPLIFIED or dummyed down the offense to an almost college level and teams are having and have had a hard time adjusting to it.
Eventually teams figure it out which is why you are seeing Cam Newton have such a bad year…when you take the training wheels off he cant ride the bike anymore….same thing will happen to RG111 next year.
We have seen running QB’s since Fran Tarkington to Randell Cunningham to Kordel Stewart to what we see today and the one thing they all have in common is they don’t win super bowls and they get hurt a lot from all the running they do..so much for your new wave of QB’s.
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why does it bother you so much?
1. tebow did not do what cam did last year or what rgIII are doing this year, he didnt and cant ever pass the ball the way these two have. Cam set all time passing numbers as a rookie, and rgIII is leading the nfl in passing completion percentage. tebow will never sniff that kind of passing acumen.
2.The offense has not been “dummied down” in fact the wco that shanahan used with elway young and montana has now been bolsterd by ADDING some of baylors playbook. griffin runs a no huddle is free to call his own plays even in two minute and like peyton manning he often has complete freedom to over rule the play form the sideline based on what he sees when he reads the defense pres-nap.
3. the nfl has not “cuaght up to cam” cam has been too greedy. he is forcing the ball down field and trying to do too much. he has already stated he will be far more patient gong forward this season. in 5 games cam has had 2 bad games and 2 good games with one up and down. Too early to write him off, and in the games he was good in, the defense had no answers.
4. only kordell and cuningham fit the athletic mold of rgIII and cam, but neither of them had the benefit of rgIII’s or cams raw passing talent, even cam doesnt compare in that category. yet cam is far better passer out f the gate than either randall or kordell were.
Your other comparisons of Tarkenton and Staubach are laughable, not elway, not you, noon has the package of speed and passing prowess that these two do. it has never been seen in profootball. but again you dont have to take my word
try john madden
“I mean, go down the sideline? I have never, in the history of football, I have never seen a quarterback ever run that fast. “If he gets away from you on any type of scramble, he can just outrun anyone that you have on your team, and that is very, very scary,” Madden said. I think that’s gonna be the pro quarterback style, I really do. If you go back and look at high school football, the way they play, and college football, the way they play, that’s the type of quarterback that we’re developing. And that’s the type of quarterback that’s gonna come into the league, and I think eventually that’s gonna be the pro-type quarterback.”..
madden agrees with me, they are revolutionizing football and changing the qb position for ever, and the gifts they bring to the dance have never been seen on sundays in the nfl.
sorry but i think madden is much better source of opinion on qb than you
October 19th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
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