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Palmer calls Jaguars game ‘must-win”

The Raiders and Jaguars are 1-4, with their seasons on the line this Sunday. Already, things don’t bode well for both teams, given only seven out of the 156 teams that started 1-4 since 1978 made it to the playoffs that season, according to STATS, Inc.
Hence, it’s not surprising that quarterback Carson Palmer called Sunday’s game between the Raiders and Jaguars a “must-win game.”
For added emphasis, coach Dennis Allen displayed the records of AFC teams for the players to see and outlined where the Raiders stand.
“it’s a must-win for us,” Palmer said. “It’s an AFC game and an opportunity to start climbing our way back into the race.”
The Raiders are in third place in the AFC West, one-half game ahead of the 1-5 Kansas City Chiefs and 1 1/2 games behin the 3-3 Denver Broncos and San Diego Chargers.
The three other AFC West teams have their byes Sunday. Therefore, the Raiders can move within one game of the division lead with a victory over the Jaguars — the Chargers and Broncos beat the Raiders, so they own the tiebreak for now.
Imagine the odds for the team that loses Sunday. Well, here goes: the Chargers are the only team that reached four games below .500 at any point in the season to go on to make the playoffs.
“Everybody’s mood is a sense of ugerncy,” Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew said. “We dug ourselves a hole and the only way to get out is to take it one play at a time and get out there and play.”

– Seems as if every week, more and more people want to know why fullback Marcel Reece isn’t a bigger part of the offense.
Well, the question was posed to Palmer on Wednesday. Here’s his explanation:
“It’s unfortunate; he has had a handful of plays called for him, and it seems like all of them, they end up getting turned into the league,” Palmer said. “He had a deep corner route on somebody last week that was blatant (pass interference) that wasn’t called. I was going to throw it to him but I ended up having to throw it to the checkdown just because he literally was almost tackled coming out of his route.
“I kept feeling at this part of the season that every time his number is called, we’re turning the plays in because it wasn’t called on the field by the referees. And it comes back as, ‘Yeah, that should have been called as P.I.’ So, he’s gotten his opportunities, it just hasn’t, the ball just hasn’t, so to speak, bounced his way. But we understand the weapon he is, and the defenses that play us understand the weapon he is, and he’s going to get his opportunities.”
Through five games, Reece has been targeted 19 times. He has 14 receptions for 119 yards. There’s no way of knowing how many times Palmer wanted to throw to Reece but opted for another receiver.

– As hard as it seems to believe, Jones-Drew will make his Coliseum debut as an NFL player Sunday.
Jones-Drew played at the Coliseum during his standout high school career at De La Salle. Yet, his only games against the Raiders came in Jacksonville.
“It’s just great to come home, see some family members, let them get a chance to see me play,” Jones-Drew said in a conference call.
The Raiders figure to see plenty of Jones-Drew, too. He has accounted for 41 percent of their offense through five games, with 494 of the Jaguars 1,206 yards.
How much the Raiders see of Jones-Drew will hinge upon if the game remains tight. Jones-Drew averaged 17 carries the first five games.
“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with our run game,” Jones-Drew said. “We just have to be more consistent. With that, we have to be able to be in games. We can’t run the ball when we’re down by 30. Or run the ball when we’re down by 17. It doesn’t make sense. We have to keep the game close and stick to our game plan.”
Jones-Drew said he grew up following the Raiders as a youngster from Antioch. Former Raiders running back Napoleon Kaufman is the one player he most identified with.
“I was a big Napoleon Kaufman fan for a while,” Jones-Drew said. “That was one of my top Raiders, because he was a smaller back, came out of the pack.”
Jones-Drew, too, is considered short, fast and elusive.

– Strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler now is the one on defense wearing the helmet fitted with the radio linked to defensive coordinator Jason Tarver.
The change came last game, when McClain was removed from the nickel package and, as a result, not on the field for every down.

– The Jaguars are one of only six teams with a winning record against the Raiders all-time.
Here’s the list: Chiefs 53-48-2, Patriots 15-14, Packers 6-5, Ravens 5-1, Texans 5-2 and Jaguars 4-1.

– According to Allen, McClain had his most production per downs played Sunday against the Falcons.
In that game, McClain played only 17 of 55 snaps after being replaced by rookie Miles Burris in the nickel package.
“He responded well,” Allen said, “and he actually, he played well. He had his most productive play on a per-play basis in that football game.”
McClain played 73 of 77 snaps in the game against the Broncos on Sept. 30. Playing so much in that game and the three others before the Falcons game affected his production, Allen said.
“When we went back and looked and saw how many plays that Rolando was playing, it had a factor in his conditioning,” Allen said. “We felt like him not playing quite as many plays would help him to play better and be more effective, and it had that effect in this game.”
McClain was not available for comment in the locker room today.

– Right offensive tackle Willie Smith started three games for the Washington Redskins last season. In his three starts for the Raiders this season, he has faced the likes of Elvis Dumervil and John Abraham.
As expected, the results have been mixed for Smith, as he acclimates himself to becoming a full-time player. It’s all part of the maturation process, Allen said.
“It’s reality,” Allen said. “It’s the National Football League. Every week, you go up and you play against talented guys. He’s getting a crash course and he’s got to learn fast. And we’re going to continue to put him out there and let him keep getting better.”

– Someone that won’t be getting an opportunity to show what he can do anytime soon is second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor.
Allen said that Palmer is doing just fine and that he doesn’t have any intention of taking a look at Pryor in the near future.
“We’ve got a quarterback that plays extremely well and we’ve been very pleased with the way Carson’s played in football games,” Allen said. “Obviously, we’ll do anything that we feel like gives us a chance to win football games. But right now, we don’t feel like that’s in our plans.”

– Sebastian Janikowski still is on the injury report with a sore groin. Yet, that had nothing to do with Allen’s decision to forgo a shot at a 58-yard field-goal attempt against the Falcons in the first half Sunday.
The game was scoreless at the time, with the Raiders at the Falcons 40-yard line.
“Not that early in the game,” Allen said. “A 58-yarder against that offense, your percentages, even though Sebastian is very capable of kicking a 58-yarder, I’ve got all the confidence in the world in Sebastian kicking a 58-yarder, but in that situation against that team, my decision was, it was the right thing to do to try to pin them back and make them go the long way.”
As it turned out, Shane Lechler’s punt bounced into the end zone, giving the Falcons the ball at their own 20. A missed field goal by Janikowski would have given the Falcons the ball at their 48.
Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan was intercepted two plays later, and the Raiders ended up kicking a field goal at the end of that drive.

– Right guard Mike Brisiel returned to practice only three days after he suffered a concussion. Allen said Brisiel passed all the league-mandates tests and was cleared for full contact in practice.
Therefore, it’s likely that Brisiel will start Sunday against the Jaguars. Brisiel said he, too, is of the belief that the Raiders use of the zone-blocking scheme is about to yield big dividends now that it has had ample time to take hold.
“In my experience, the zone scheme, it does take time to get everybody familiar with it and familiar with the players next to them,” Brisiel said. “I just love how everybody comes to work each day and everyone’s trusting each other and we’re going to get it going. We’re (headed) in the right direction and we just got to keep working.”

– Linebacker Aaron Curry returned to practice today for the first time since the Raiders shut him down during offseason workouts.
Allen said it’s too early to project how Curry might be used if he’s able to get into shape within the next three weeks. The Raiders have 21 days to decide whether to activate, waive or place Curry on the injured-reserve list.
“We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it,” Allen said. “That’s not a decision that we have to make right now. Right now, the biggest thing is to see where he’s at physically, see how he responds to a couple of days of practice, how the knee responds to it. And then we’ll make that decision when we need to.”
Allen said Monday that Curry spent time during his long layoff learning all three linebacker positions. Curry started at the weak-side spot last season. That job now belongs to Burris.
Curry was unavailable for comment during the media-access window today.

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  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Wasn’t the DBs’ fault at all. Our Dline got no push on the final drive, except when we blitzed Burris. I think we are all aware that QB pressure is a GIANT problem from our Oline.”

    Good point Seymour and Kelly will be gone next year I would bet our first 3 or 4 draft picks will be on the defensive side of the ball.

  • Raider Riff

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:36 am
    Good to see you back Riff

    ————

    Thanks brotha.

  • MikieG

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Passing up a Jano 58 yarder. Bad decision on DA’s part.

    +++++++++

    Dumbest Punt Ever! I couldn’t believe they didn’t kick it. Stupid..
    Also, I aint seen Lechler kick one inside the 20 in what seems like 3 games. He’s been pretty crappy this season.

  • Raider Riff

    MikieG Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am
    This is exactly why I didn’t want the ‘regular’ refs back! 12 penalties against the Raiders—VS–2 against the Falcons…and they are tackling Reece coming out of his break and no calls…Unreal, and its been going on for 30 freakin years man. Such Bull$hit!

    Also, the thing about Pryor is ridiculous. Nobody says Carson and Pryor can’t be on the field together at the SAME time! You got a guy who is 6-5 and runs a 4.4 sitting on the bench in STREETCLOTHES! Yeah, make sure you don’t try to get him the ball 2-3 times a game whatever you do. These coaches man, they just don’t display ANY creativity at all! These coaches are boring as hell and they make this team boring as hell, all while losing! Hey guys, you might want to take the governor off the golf cart and get your a$$es in gear. The best teams are CREATIVE in their approach..they do things that other teams don’t think they will do, things they haven’t seen before…Not us! Throw on First down: Incomplete. Run on Second Down: 2 yard Gain. Throw on 3rd Down: 4 yard completion.
    Punt..
    And on and on..

    —————–

    Your first paragraph is spot on.

    Your second paragraph is off the mark. We have been plenty “creative”. Our players simply cant handle the basics at the moment. When we stop dropping red zone TDs and stop fumbling all over the place, then the coaches will get more confident in gimmick stuff.

  • bcz24

    392.RaiderIN.260 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Agreed our db’s are weak but to go from playing aggresive and 3 picks in first half to 8 guys 15yards off the ball an back peddling=loss
    **************
    If played aggressive Ryan goes over the top. Those passes on the final drive were all 3 yards from the LOS except the final one to Gonzo. If our Dline got a little push or we make 1 stinking tackle in the field of play the game is over. We also didn’t have 8 db’s on the field, we had 4 dl for 4 of the 6 plays, and 2 lbs for all 6.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Our players simply cant handle the basics at the moment. When we stop dropping red zone TDs and stop fumbling all over the place, then the coaches will get more confident in gimmick stuff.”

    Yeah and a perfect example of this is Tiwan Jones benched for fumbling on a reverse.

  • inonewordraider

    the refs cost us the game flat out. 12 penalties to 2? really? our oline/run game WILL improve and we’re gonna make it interesting in the AFC west

  • MikieG

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    “Our players simply cant handle the basics at the moment. When we stop dropping red zone TDs and stop fumbling all over the place, then the coaches will get more confident in gimmick stuff.”

    Yeah and a perfect example of this is Tiwan Jones benched for fumbling on a reverse.
    ++++++++++++

    So then he should be covering punts for the rest of his career? Jesus, it was the first game of the season..Can somebody get the kid a few touches? Perhaps remove him from the milk carton? Pryor’s talent and ability being utterly and completely dismissed by sitting him on the bench in sweatpants helps us how again? Ridiculous.

  • chzamora

    Remember that Indians fan from the “Major League” baseball movies, that just yells at the team, and is really really annoying?

    I think his name is SULLLIVAN44.

    Those are NOT real Raider fans. Not Raider Nation.
    Just another moron seeking attention.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Can somebody get the kid a few touches? Perhaps remove him from the milk carton? Pryor’s talent and ability being utterly and completely dismissed by sitting him on the bench in sweatpants helps us how again? Ridiculous.”

    Its crazy when you look across the bay at the way they are using Kapernick and we got a guy like that sitting on the bench but yeah if we cant do the simple things first how can we get creative on offense.

  • Raider Riff

    The Niners didnt bring Kapernick in until they had won a few more games than they lost, only then did they start installing Kapernick.

    We’re not there yet. Not even close.

    Win the next 3 in a row and then we can start talking about mixing things up with Pryor.

  • J Hill

    I think its simply a footspeed issue with 55 on passing downs.

    Makes no sense to have a big guy like that trying to cover people downfield.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    411 nice post Riff I agree

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  • inonewordraider

    Should Curry be groomed to replace Mcclain at MLB, keeping Burris in on passing downs? He’s the only one stout enough but teams will wanna expose Curry in the passing game as he’s even worse than Mccalin in coverage…

  • MikieG

    I understand your point, but IMO, we need to pull out all the stops, push all the chips to the middle of the table and go all in. This pu$$yfooting around isn’t accomplishing anything. I don’t think it can hurt AT ALL trying a few things. Hell, this whole season has been one big pre-season game anyway. Seriously, What do we have to lose?? Nothing!

    We have everything to gain.

    Doesn’t matter what I say anyway, Allen has made it clear that he wants no part of Pryor even getting into a game this season…Sorta like he wanted no part of Jano kicking a 58 yarder….WHICH IS WHY HE WAS DRAFTED no less. SMH…

  • Carl Weathers

    Allen would have sent Jano out for that 58 yarder if they were inside the 2:00 minute warning and down by 7.

  • inonewordraider

    Jags are looking this as a game they can win. MJD wants to shine in front of friends and family. Jags will be ready and they’re still an NFL team

  • R8ER MIKE

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am
    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

    *****************
    to steal a line from the GreenParty President….
    ok then fuk you guys !!

  • Carl Weathers

    The jags are giving up like 160 yards/game on the ground. Time for DMC to have a big game, as long as his big runs don t get called back.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    WILL HAVE AN ALL GRASS FIELD THIS WEEK.FOR ALL WHO CRY ABOUT THE DIRT..

  • Raider Riff

    Inonewordraider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Jags are looking this as a game they can win. MJD wants to shine in front of friends and family. Jags will be ready and they’re still an NFL team

    ———-

    And they are coming off a bye. They will be more than prepared.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    418.inonewordraider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Jags are looking this as a game they can win. MJD wants to shine in front of friends and family. Jags will be ready and they’re still an NFL team

    +++++++++++

    Blaine Gabbert’s not an NFL QB though.

    Keep 8 in the box and dare him to beat you. Even with a depleted secondary he won’t be able to do it.

  • theghostronin79

    415.inonewordraider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:05 am
    Should Curry be groomed to replace Mcclain at MLB, keeping Burris in on passing downs? He’s the only one stout enough but teams will wanna expose Curry in the passing game as he’s even worse than Mccalin in coverage…

    ===============

    Personally I think Curry in the middle would be fantastic. I just don’t know how his body feels about that. Having:
    Burris / Curry / Wheeler
    as our guys….That’s alot of hatred.

    Burris is ALWAYS amped up. So much that he needs to calm down actually…But THAT attitude is what we’re looking for

    Wheeler is playing great ball. Does nothing great in particular but does ALL things good I would say. Plus he’s been the only one whose been “Lighting Up” the QB for us. We may get a few knock downs per game but Wheeler has been laying some slobber knockers.

    And Curry is just a savage. He hits REAL hard. He never takes plays “OFF” and everything about him is hustle. I’ll take his personal foul penalties for knocking the SH*T outta Tight Ends. Anyday…..ANY GAWD DAMNED DAY…Gimmie some ferocious hitting and persuit over “Jogging and perceived lack of caring”.

    These three guys have “IT” in reference to the defensive mindset. THEY…..are Boar Hunters.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Personally I think Curry in the middle would be fantastic. I just don’t know how his body feels about that. Having:
    Burris / Curry / Wheeler
    as our guys….That’s alot of hatred.

    +++++++++

    LOL, that’s a nice way of putting it.

    I REALLY hope they try Curry in the middle if/when he’s physically up to speed.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Palmer at home vs gabbert on the road. This looks like an advantage for oakland, as we fully expect palmer to make at least fewer mistakes than hhis counterpart. However in order to get there our line backers and d line must find a way to stop mjd and jennings. These guys have killed us over the last few years.

    Jax knows their qb is struggling, im certain they want to minimize the impact of potential mistakes by running the football. The jag running game has scuffled a bit, but Like our struggling running back, this guy is capable of exploding at any moment.

    We must be able to sustain drives and this is where i think we may have a good chance of winning this game. Palmer must go back to what he did early in the season and use the dink and dunk method. When palmer starts trying to throw it 20 yards plus, either to the sideline or down the filed he struggles. This is where the majority of his interceptions have come during his stay in oakland. he mst stay patient and throw underneath. I believe that dhb must be a primary target in this scenario. DHb has improved going down field however i still feel he is best as a catch and run receiver. His size and body he has learned to use as a barrier between the ball and defender, and he catches in traffic well on slants. Bubble screens and reverses should be employed as well. Palmer should be able to mange this game, as the jags defense is toothless against the pass.

    They are also very poor against the run, so this could be a break out game for dmac. Or at least a better stats line, jax gives up 163 yards per game.

    To lose this game would be beyond unacceptable, from both the coaching staff to the players, everyone would be and should be under the microscope.

    This is truly a measuring stick game, fighting off the dregs and bottom feeders, grasping desperately for mediocrity.

  • MikieG

    Carl Weathers Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Allen would have sent Jano out for that 58 yarder if they were inside the 2:00 minute warning and down by 7.
    ++++++++

    AMEN!

  • MikieG

    We need to get around Gabberts legs, get him dirty, knock him around, force a few pics and make them one dimensional.

    Wouldn’t it be GREAT to have a laugher at home for a change. Just blow these fvckers outta California? Im tired of these cardiac arrest games..I want a 21 point blowout so I can actually enjoy myself for once.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Carson Palmer calls Sunday’s game a “must-win””

    This article just headlined at PFT and it shows great leadership by Palmer coming out and letting everyone know how important this game is….that’s what leaders do not sit on the sidelines with a towel on your head sulking!

  • RaiderIN.260

    #412 exactly 55 in coverage reminds of the Tyler Brayton experiment…dam ugly

  • Dakota

    Go Jags! #1 pick baby!

  • hwnrdr

    Dakota, you want another #1…just having nightmarish flashbacks of the not so long ago #1 experiment!

  • Dakota

    Reggie will not select a lazy drug addict #1 overall like Al Davis did.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    If we get a top 5 pick you can bet your paycheck that RM will trade down for multiple picks as there are so many holes to fill on this team….DT DE CB MLB the list goes on plus we do not have a 2nd round or 5th round pick he could easily fix that by trading down.

  • lefty12

    No Luck or RGIII-don’t want the 1st pick this year.

  • Dakota

    Lots of good DEs and DTs at the top of the draft.

  • lefty12

    Then we don’t need the 1st pick.:)

  • DJ Johnny

    For some weird reason I worry that Raiders come into this game overconfident.

    Then again, I worry about everything when it comes to the Raiders.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    WILL HAVE AN ALL GRASS FIELD THIS WEEK.FOR ALL WHO CRY ABOUT THE DIRT..=============================Where’s the shout out from No Mas Diamante?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    I think the top of this year’s draft class is pretty weak overall, honestly.

    Jarvis Jones, Star Lotulelei, Johnthan Banks and Sam Mongtomery are the only defensive players I’d spend a top 10 pick on. Offensively, it’s Geno Smith and Keenan Allen.

  • DJ Johnny

    Geno Smith didn’t look too good last week.

  • DJ Johnny

    I wanna see how Geno’s stats line up against good defenses.

    Looking at Pryor he was good all around, then when you loooked closer at how he did against tough defenses…it was a different story.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    even palmer knows he blew the game and for the first time in his miserable life he took the blame.===Meanwhile your instant upgrade golden haired hero countinues to to solidify his place in sports infamy. As The number one draft bust that quit on his team and never could live up to hype. The diva malcontent locker room killer that couldnt lead flies to shidd. Palmer continues throw miserable picks, and rack up the losses.=====================Mistic, why bother damning Palmer with faint praise? Your true feelings are known by everyone. Happy Carson Palmer Day!

  • Dakota

    Now that the money doesn’t mater as much for high first round draft picks you want the highest pick, especially in a weak draft, so you can get one of the few guys who are worth it.

  • hwnrdr

    Dakota Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Now that the money doesn’t mater as much for high first round draft picks you want the highest pick, especially in a weak draft, so you can get one of the few guys who are worth it.

    You got a point there! But I rather get high first round drafts than first…IDK, means that we are not losing the season out…

  • The Big Banana

    What’s with this throw in the towel attitude? Come on, people. Need I remind you we are in the AFC West? Finish off the year string and who knows…

  • The Big Banana

    *strong

  • theghostronin79

    446.The Big Banana Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    What’s with this throw in the towel attitude? Come on, people. Need I remind you we are in the AFC West? Finish off the year string and who knows…

    ===========

    I know right? My expectations for the year are drastically different than they were after the draft, I will admit….But ALL I want….and I mean ALL I want to see, is inspired football. EFFORT, going for it, not going quietly into the night.

    People wanna say that Atlanta was looking past us, and just trying to get to the bye, playing like Sh*t and whatever. Maybe they were (a little bit)…

    But damnit, I saw the Raiders play their best ball of the season (Penalties aside). Even better than the Pitt game. I don’t give a sh*t, the Raiders came to play on Sunday and they competed hard. I believe they gave their very best effort Sunday. Unfortunately through penalties and a closing defensive scheme, they came away with a loss. Yeah the Carson pick…Back breaker for sure, but he drove them down and scored on the following possession and at least gave them a SHOT at pulling it off.
    Bring that hustle from here on out and I will be proud of them. I ain’t mailing in SH*T this year unless THEY do.

  • Dakota

    When you are 1-4 your season is over. It was actually over when we started 0-2, but hey, sometimes it takes a while for things to sink in for this fan base.

    Time to trade McClain, Seymour, Huff, Palmer, and Kelly to anyone who will give us some draft picks.

    Start the young guys to see what we have, which will tank the season for better picks. Who knows, maybe Pryor will surprise some of us?

    Fire the incompetent Knapp.

    And trade McFadden to a team who will know how to use him. Letting a talent like his waste on a team like the 2012 Oakland Raiders is a tragedy. Much like watching Moss rot here was a tragedy. Trade him for a second round pick and let him get his career going with a team that has a clue.

  • raiderkoolaid

    There is no one player or position that is likely to make a huge difference for The Raiders in the draft, but if it is the evaluation of The Raider’s brain trust that Gino Smith is a franchise level QB, and he is there when The Raiders draft, then they need to take him. If there is an Arron Rogers there when you draft you need to take him even if you already have a Bret Favre on your roster. Gino Smith didn’t have a great game last week, but 25 TD’s verses 0 Int’s is an unbelievable stat.