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		<title>By: qodrn1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
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<p>Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)<br />
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)<br />
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R<br />
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)<br />
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)</p>
<p> C2E Says: Raiders 30-17<br />
qodrn: Raiders 27, Jags 20<br />
 SilverNBlackPA Says: Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17<br />
Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10</p>
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		<title>By: Mistic1 Tha Supavillain</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am

What RG111 is doing this year and what Cam Newton did last year is no different than what Teblow did. A coach SIMPLIFIED or dummyed down the offense to an almost college level and teams are having and have had a hard time adjusting to it.

Eventually teams figure it out which is why you are seeing Cam Newton have such a bad year…when you take the training wheels off he cant ride the bike anymore….same thing will happen to RG111 next year.

We have seen running QB’s since Fran Tarkington to Randell Cunningham to Kordel Stewart to what we see today and the one thing they all have in common is they don’t win super bowls and they get hurt a lot from all the running they do..so much for your new wave of QB’s.
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why does it bother you so much?

1. tebow did not do what cam did last year or what rgIII are doing this year, he didnt and cant ever pass the ball the way these two have. Cam set all time passing numbers as a rookie, and rgIII is leading the nfl in passing completion percentage. tebow will never sniff that kind of passing acumen.

2.The offense has not been &quot;dummied down&quot; in fact the wco that shanahan used with elway  young and montana has now been bolsterd by ADDING some of baylors playbook. griffin runs a no huddle is free to call his own plays even in two minute and like peyton manning he often has complete freedom to over rule the play form the sideline based on what he sees when he reads the defense pres-nap.

3. the nfl has not &quot;cuaght up to cam&quot; cam has been too greedy. he is forcing the ball down field and trying to do too much. he has already stated he will be far more patient gong forward this season. in 5 games cam has had 2 bad games and 2 good games with one up and down. Too early to write him off, and in the games he was good in, the defense had no answers.

4. only kordell and cuningham fit the athletic mold of rgIII and cam, but neither of them had the benefit of rgIII&#039;s or cams raw passing talent, even cam doesnt compare in that category. yet cam is far better passer out f the gate than either randall or kordell were.

Your other comparisons of Tarkenton and Staubach are laughable, not elway, not you, noon has the package of speed and passing prowess that these two do. it has never been seen in profootball. but again you dont have to take my word

try john madden

 “I mean, go down the sideline? I have never, in the history of football, I have never seen a quarterback ever run that fast. “If he gets away from you on any type of scramble, he can just outrun anyone that you have on your team, and that is very, very scary,” Madden said. I think that’s gonna be the pro quarterback style, I really do. If you go back and look at high school football, the way they play, and college football, the way they play, that’s the type of quarterback that we’re developing. And that’s the type of quarterback that’s gonna come into the league, and I think eventually that’s gonna be the pro-type quarterback.”..


madden agrees with me, they are revolutionizing football and changing the qb position for ever, and the gifts they bring to the dance have never been seen on sundays in the nfl.

sorry but i think madden is much better source of opinion on qb than you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverandblack666 Says:<br />
October 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am</p>
<p>What RG111 is doing this year and what Cam Newton did last year is no different than what Teblow did. A coach SIMPLIFIED or dummyed down the offense to an almost college level and teams are having and have had a hard time adjusting to it.</p>
<p>Eventually teams figure it out which is why you are seeing Cam Newton have such a bad year…when you take the training wheels off he cant ride the bike anymore….same thing will happen to RG111 next year.</p>
<p>We have seen running QB’s since Fran Tarkington to Randell Cunningham to Kordel Stewart to what we see today and the one thing they all have in common is they don’t win super bowls and they get hurt a lot from all the running they do..so much for your new wave of QB’s.<br />
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<p>why does it bother you so much?</p>
<p>1. tebow did not do what cam did last year or what rgIII are doing this year, he didnt and cant ever pass the ball the way these two have. Cam set all time passing numbers as a rookie, and rgIII is leading the nfl in passing completion percentage. tebow will never sniff that kind of passing acumen.</p>
<p>2.The offense has not been &#8220;dummied down&#8221; in fact the wco that shanahan used with elway  young and montana has now been bolsterd by ADDING some of baylors playbook. griffin runs a no huddle is free to call his own plays even in two minute and like peyton manning he often has complete freedom to over rule the play form the sideline based on what he sees when he reads the defense pres-nap.</p>
<p>3. the nfl has not &#8220;cuaght up to cam&#8221; cam has been too greedy. he is forcing the ball down field and trying to do too much. he has already stated he will be far more patient gong forward this season. in 5 games cam has had 2 bad games and 2 good games with one up and down. Too early to write him off, and in the games he was good in, the defense had no answers.</p>
<p>4. only kordell and cuningham fit the athletic mold of rgIII and cam, but neither of them had the benefit of rgIII&#8217;s or cams raw passing talent, even cam doesnt compare in that category. yet cam is far better passer out f the gate than either randall or kordell were.</p>
<p>Your other comparisons of Tarkenton and Staubach are laughable, not elway, not you, noon has the package of speed and passing prowess that these two do. it has never been seen in profootball. but again you dont have to take my word</p>
<p>try john madden</p>
<p> “I mean, go down the sideline? I have never, in the history of football, I have never seen a quarterback ever run that fast. “If he gets away from you on any type of scramble, he can just outrun anyone that you have on your team, and that is very, very scary,” Madden said. I think that’s gonna be the pro quarterback style, I really do. If you go back and look at high school football, the way they play, and college football, the way they play, that’s the type of quarterback that we’re developing. And that’s the type of quarterback that’s gonna come into the league, and I think eventually that’s gonna be the pro-type quarterback.”..</p>
<p>madden agrees with me, they are revolutionizing football and changing the qb position for ever, and the gifts they bring to the dance have never been seen on sundays in the nfl.</p>
<p>sorry but i think madden is much better source of opinion on qb than you</p>
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		<title>By: Raider O</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dakota Says: 
October 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
6-6 and then 9-7?

Are you people flat out crazy?

Deaf, dumb and blind?

Retarded maybe?

I can hear Callahan now, “Dumbest fans in America!”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

LMAO WD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dakota Says:<br />
October 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am<br />
6-6 and then 9-7?</p>
<p>Are you people flat out crazy?</p>
<p>Deaf, dumb and blind?</p>
<p>Retarded maybe?</p>
<p>I can hear Callahan now, “Dumbest fans in America!”<br />
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$</p>
<p>LMAO WD.</p>
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		<title>By: The Big Banana</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol at Purvisman. Happy Carson Palmer day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol at Purvisman. Happy Carson Palmer day!</p>
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		<title>By: Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sully purged himself of a lot of idiocy last night and is almost making sense. Still trying to foment discord, naturally, but hey, let&#039;s enjoy it while we can before his dumb tank fills up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sully purged himself of a lot of idiocy last night and is almost making sense. Still trying to foment discord, naturally, but hey, let&#8217;s enjoy it while we can before his dumb tank fills up again.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>666,

Steve Young was a running QB who won the SB.....but he could toss the rock pretty well too., lol.

Why didn&#039;t Al go after him again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>666,</p>
<p>Steve Young was a running QB who won the SB&#8230;..but he could toss the rock pretty well too., lol.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t Al go after him again?</p>
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		<title>By: SilverNBlackPA</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a name you draft types will be hearing more of as the weeks pass and who would look VERY VERY good in silver and black:

Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&amp;M. 6&#039;4&quot;, 250 lbs.

So far he has 8.5 sacks, 15 TFL, 4 QB hurries, 1 pass deflection, 1 forced fumble and 1 blocked kick....all this through just *six* games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a name you draft types will be hearing more of as the weeks pass and who would look VERY VERY good in silver and black:</p>
<p>Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&amp;M. 6&#8242;4&#8243;, 250 lbs.</p>
<p>So far he has 8.5 sacks, 15 TFL, 4 QB hurries, 1 pass deflection, 1 forced fumble and 1 blocked kick&#8230;.all this through just *six* games.</p>
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		<title>By: Sullivan44</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am

guest123 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am

Who cares about RG3 or Cam Newton? Is this the Redskins or Panthers board? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? If they don’t play for the S&amp;B, fook em anyways.
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no gradkowski lover, i was drawing a comparison to A RAIDER TP6.

My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.

Im looking forward to seeing pryor in the mix at the end of the season.
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Talk about tainted rose colored glasses? TP is on par? In what world? Did you actually watch his play? He look lost. Looked confused. Looked like what he was, a rookie with a ton of work to do. Why set your self up like that? We don&#039;t even know if he can be the #1 backup, because all he proved is he&#039;s a project. A big project. With no guarantees he can even play at the NFL level.
Except in your mind.
Why?
Because he&#039;s black.
See what I mean? You go on and on how TP should be out there, when no one except you is sure he&#039;s NFL ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:<br />
October 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am</p>
<p>guest123 Says:<br />
October 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am</p>
<p>Who cares about RG3 or Cam Newton? Is this the Redskins or Panthers board? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? If they don’t play for the S&amp;B, fook em anyways.<br />
==============</p>
<p>no gradkowski lover, i was drawing a comparison to A RAIDER TP6.</p>
<p>My point is what they have accomplished in thier short careers, has turned heads and changed thinking in the nfl. TP6 is on par with these two athletically and has shown to be better than anyone thought with his arm and qb smarts.</p>
<p>Im looking forward to seeing pryor in the mix at the end of the season.<br />
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Talk about tainted rose colored glasses? TP is on par? In what world? Did you actually watch his play? He look lost. Looked confused. Looked like what he was, a rookie with a ton of work to do. Why set your self up like that? We don&#8217;t even know if he can be the #1 backup, because all he proved is he&#8217;s a project. A big project. With no guarantees he can even play at the NFL level.<br />
Except in your mind.<br />
Why?<br />
Because he&#8217;s black.<br />
See what I mean? You go on and on how TP should be out there, when no one except you is sure he&#8217;s NFL ready.</p>
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