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McClain says he played ‘pretty danged good’ in limited role

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, October 18th, 2012 at 4:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver say middle linebacker Rolando McClain had his most productive game Sunday, at least in terms of on a production-per-snap basis. McClain agreed with that assessment.
“It was 17 plays, and I had, I don’t know, a ratio of every one and a half plays I made some type of impact type play,” McClain said. “That’s pretty danged good.”
McClain’s snaps dropped from 73 of 77 against the Broncos to 17 of 55 against the Falcons, as Tarver opted to go with rookie Miles Burris in the nickel package, where one of the three linebackers comes off the field in favor of an extra defensive back.
Tarver said McClain handled the reduction in playing time and responsibility well and that McClain performed well in practice so far this week.
McClain said he is focusing his energy on being a team player, though he knows what the job change signfies.
“It makes my job easy, just focus on base whenever that is and go from there,” McClain said. “You understand the situation, you understand the transition whatever that may be. You’re not naive to the fact of what’s going on.
“But, at the same time, you’re still a team player. If coach thinks that’s the best thing for the defense, then, by all means, do it. I can focus on the base downs and that’s what I put my energy toward.”
Tarver said he has been impressed by McClain’s demeanor.
“He handled it well,” Tarver said. “He’s been good with the other guys. That’s what we asked him to do, and that’s what he did. He was a pro about the situation.”
McClain’s base salary jumps from $970,000 this season to slightly more than $4 million in 2013. It’s doubtful that the Raiders will honor that contract if McClain still is viewed as a situational player.
Just the same, that doesn’t mean the Raiders are moving on from McClain, either. They just decided that the defense is better with Burris on the field with Philip Wheeler in the nickel package.
With that said, McClain can plan on getting plenty of action Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars, considering the Jaguars rely upon running back Maurice Jones-Drew quite a bit.
McClain is sold that the Jaguars will do little more than run the ball, as the Jaguars did the last time the teams played.
“Two years ago, we went down there to Jacksonville and that’s all they did was run the ball,” McClain said. “They had 200-plus yards. That was the game. They had the ball a lot. We had to stop the run and we didn’t. They scored. They ran the ball to keep us off the field.
“Darren (McFadden) had a great game, I remember. Other than that, all I remember is them running the ball. I didn’t play with a foot injury. That’s all I remember is them running the ball. You have to take that personally. We have to go out and try to at least stop that run. If you don’t do anything else, stop the run, let them know you can’t do this two times in a row.”

– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) is making progress, but he won’t play Sunday, Allen said. The goal is to get Spencer back on the practice field soon, perhaps next week.
Therefore, Michael Huff is slated to start at Spencer’s left cornerback spot for the fourth straight game Sunday.

– Allen and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp raved about the way quarterback Carson Palmer accepted blame for the Raiders loss to the Falcons.
They say that is yet another glaring example of the kind of leader Palmer is, how he is slow to accept credit and eager to handle the blame.
“That’s the type of quarterback you want; a guy that’s going to step up and take responsibility and not look to pass the buck on anybody else,” Allen said. “Carson has played extremely well for us. He’s a stand-up guy, and that’s one of the reasons that I’m glad he’s our quarterback.”

– Here’s Tarver’s explanation for the defensive philosophy for the Falcons’ game-deciding drive in which the Falcons marched into field-goal position despite having only 40 seconds left.
“It’s all about execution of a coverage,” Tarver said. “In those situations, if you blitz everybody and they make a play, why’d you blitz? If you drop everybody but one, and they make a play, why’d you do that? All of the sudden if you blitz it’s the greatest call of all time.
“I find those funny. It’s always execution. It’s always execution of what you’re talking about and whether you get it done. On the calls where you may rush a few less, then you need to be closer and understand where they’re trying to go. That’s where we can do a better job as players and coaches.”
Tarver has a point. The Raiders executed well on the first few plays, forcing the Falcons to burn one of their time-outs, while not giving up huge yardage on short completions.
In the end, the Falcons still were forced to attempt a 55-yard field goal.

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573 Responses to “McClain says he played ‘pretty danged good’ in limited role”

  1. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Wrecks N’ Effect!

  2. beechams gay lover Says:

    anyone seen beeechy? he must be at antoines

  3. Dan78 Says:

    2 much too handle

  4. Dan78 Says:

    too late Doc Slobs alter ego beat me to it

  5. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    “he is another Tom Cruise movie away from coming out of the closet”

    Another Dan Brah Classic!

    Homies, the PMPP Krew is out in FULL EFFECT. We’re guaranteed to see another epic Nob Flame Out!

    Guess that’s why they call it the blues

    Oh well, light up them spliffs and toast another one to the PM Party Partol

  6. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    McBosworth is proud of being benched.

  7. Dan78 Says:

    Meltdown has started get the Nachos ready

  8. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Dan78 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    too late Doc Slobs alter ego beat me to it


    I guess that’s why they call it the blues.

  9. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Hooray we’re saved! Shantae Spencer is coming back!

    In other terrible news, gelled up my pubes with Arby’s Horsey Sauce for my big date with Miley tonight, and one of the Mo Fly Girlz licked it off while I was cat napping

    Don’t worry Blog Brahs, the Beeech Diggity will soon commence with slappin’ the ho

    As in, slapping those massive fake booblies with the one and only Beeech Lawg

    12 inches of Payback, holla

  10. KoolKell Says:

    – Allen and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp raved about the way quarterback Carson Palmer accepted blame for the Raiders loss to the Falcons.
    ——————–
    Of course he did.

  11. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    who played better in Hues scheme:

    Dmac
    Veldeer
    Wiz
    Barnes
    Moore
    DHB
    Reece
    who’s play has regressed under knapps scheme :

    Dmac
    Veldeer
    Wiz
    Barnes
    DHB
    Reece
    ————

    this is not a coincidence folks.
    =======================================

    I would agree.

    —————

    I wouldnt.

    - Barnes was every bit the train wreck with Hue that he is now.
    - Wiz was playing a different position
    - Moore hasnt regressed
    - DHB hasnt regressed either, he dropped passes he should catch before, he still does it
    - People were never happy with the way Reece was used before, and according to Palmer, Reece is getting mugged. What is Knapp supposed to do about that?

    People are so quick to forget how we folded the past two seasons down the stretch. Maybe for once we are going to play better at the end of the year than the beginning? Either way, we were a 1-4 at the end of last season, we are a 1-4 team now. That isnt regression. That is actually progression considering our D is better, we have no run game, and we are less talented than last year.
    ———————–

    barnes played much better last year
    Wiz also played center last year, my how we forget.
    Moore name wasnt under the regressed list,read te entire post.
    DHB had almost 1000 yds last year wont be close this year.
    and I guess Reece just magicaly started getting mugged this year.

    And ONCE AGAIN the BUFF,DEN.DET,SD games werent Hues fault those games are on chuck B= 12-4 FELLAS.

    But I know Hue Was the HC he is supposed to see over the whole team!!! Well if that were true TAKE THAT SB BACK FROM GRUDEN IT BELONGS TO DUNGY AND MONTE KIFFIN TAKE THAT SB AWAY FROM BILL BILLICK AND GIVE IT TO MARVIN LEWIS.

  12. Plunketthead Says:

    Even if Hue was the greatest coach to ever grace the game it would not matter.

    You could line up every single person in the East bay and they could all say Hue should not have been fired and it would not matter

    Hue is gone. Get over it Besides

    DAILY REMINDER
    Cable coached circles around Jackson

  13. JLofty Says:

    One bright spot the Raiders have achieved (thus far) is doing a pretty good job against the run.
    Falcons aren’t a bad running team and they got stoned.
    Wish it would translate into a victory. Don’t know if i can watch another loss like the Atlanta game anytime soon…

  14. J Hill Says:

    McClain’s base salary jumps from $970,000 this season to more than $5.6 million in 2013.

    ————————————————————–

    When you can get a Wheeler and a Burris for a combined 2 million, pretty plain to see 55 won’t be getting anywhere near that next year.

    Lechler and Huff better look out too.

  15. eastoaklandraider Says:

    And ONCE AGAIN the BUFF,DEN.DET,SD games werent Hues fault those games are on chuck B= 12-4 FELLAS.

    But I know Hue Was the HC he is supposed to see over the whole team!!! Well if that were true TAKE THAT SB BACK FROM GRUDEN IT BELONGS TO DUNGY AND MONTE KIFFIN TAKE THAT SB AWAY FROM BILL BILLICK AND GIVE IT TO MARVIN LEWIS.

  16. J Hill Says:

    Wow …

    So Seymour, Lechler, and 55 will be about 27 million coming off the books.

    Plenty of $ to spend in FA.

    Teams don’t let good OTs go, so I still think OT will be our 1st rd pick.

  17. JLofty Says:

    I am laughing that EOR actually seems to believe that the 2011 Raiders were a 12-4 team. That is freakin funny. Even the most Rainbow stew eatin, kool-aid drinking fans i know don’t/didn’t believe that.
    We were HIGHLY flawed last year. Granted not as bad as many times in the past decade or so but not very good either.
    Offense couldn’t score 2nd half points, defense couldn’t prevent a first down in most any second half.
    Exactly how we’re we getting to 12-4 anyway?

  18. The Big Banana Says:

    Allen said. “Carson has played extremely well for us. He’s a stand-up guy, and that’s one of the reasons that I’m glad he’s our quarterback.”

    ——

    Bad news for Mistic. Quite an endorsement here.

  19. Plunketthead Says:

    ABP he sure sounds happy about it.
    It also sounds like his memory os not so hot. “sippyhead”
    I blame Saban

  20. Raider Riff Says:

    J Hill Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    McClain’s base salary jumps from $970,000 this season to more than $5.6 million in 2013.

    ————————————————————–

    When you can get a Wheeler and a Burris for a combined 2 million, pretty plain to see 55 won’t be getting anywhere near that next year.

    Lechler and Huff better look out too.

    ————-

    Huff is showing he can be a good #2 corner. Which we badly need. Gio is filling in for Huff just fine. That makes getting our CB issues fixed that much easier. Finding a #1 CB is easier than finding a #1 & #2. So I say Huff stays. He gets better with every game.

    Lechler, gonna have to restructure big time or he’s gone. No debate really.

    McClain, the writing is on the wall. He’s a “repeat offender” of mistakes per DA’s words.

    I do find it curious that now that McClain is visibly on the hot seat, he’s all of a sudden giving the media the time of day.

  21. Plunketthead Says:

    Jhill

    Cork said Reg would have plenty of money to spend on FA next year. Also said cap problems would not be near as bad as this year.

    Reg ate most of it and DA is the best coach we have had since Flores

    Moving on up!

  22. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    LMN,

    Everyone knew Armstrong doped. Everyone that finishes in the top 20 in that sport dopes.

    I think they should just say fk it, dope all you want, and then we can see what the riders look like after about 30 years of unregulated doping!

    Really, that entire sport is a joke.
    _______________________________________________________

    well most here hated on me for saying Lance Armstrong was doped, that the entire US Postal was doped, that I said all Bruynell touched would someday admit they were doped..

    as far as I remember, you as well were one of them offended, and claimed it was purely because he was american i would say so..

  23. KoolKell Says:

    I do find it curious that now that McClain is visibly on the hot seat, he’s all of a sudden giving the media the time of day.
    ———————
    Yeah, that is interesting, isn’t it?

  24. J Hill Says:

    Banana,

    I know A LOT of people who NEVER liked us getting Palmer. INT waiting to happen, they said.

    They also want to “see what Pryor can do”. They don’t really think Pryor is the answer, but again, want to see what he can do.

    Don’t worry. I’m still telling them how delusional they are, lol.

  25. Plunketthead Says:

    LMN

    Take a break from America bashing and talk some Raider football

  26. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    just looked it up… it wasn’t you of course… sorry.. it was another great regular. Edward Teach…

  27. J Hill Says:

    Huff is showing he can be a good #2 corner. Which we badly need. Gio is filling in for Huff just fine. That makes getting our CB issues fixed that much easier. Finding a #1 CB is easier than finding a #1 & #2. So I say Huff stays. He gets better with every game.

    ————————————————————

    Agree that Huff is getting better each game. You know I was one of the VERY few who liked the move to CB from the giddee up.

    Thing is Adams looked good over there too and we still have the kid we brought over from GB. If Huff moves back to S at some point with Spencer getting healthy, to your point, Gio is playing well enough that the GM might look at Huff’s salary as a S as expendable.

  28. Plunketthead Says:

    Three real good games on tonight
    Reds – Giants
    Birds – whiners
    and Oregon -ASU

  29. J Hill Says:

    DA is the best coach we have had since Flores

    ————————————————————–

    Better than Cable??????

  30. YoungAmerican Says:

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/film-review-raiders-lb-philip-wheeler-is-good/

  31. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    LMN

    Take a break from America bashing and talk some Raider football
    _________________________________________________________

    wow, have I done that?

  32. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Allen said. “Carson has played extremely well for us. He’s a stand-up guy, and that’s one of the reasons that I’m glad he’s our quarterback.”

    ——

    Bad news for Mistic. Quite an endorsement here.
    ===============

    not really what is the coach supposed to say? palmer hasnt led to wins and his pick cost the game in atl, d.a isnt hu jack he isnt gong to throw him under the bus n public.

    This doesnt really mean much other than the coach looking to put out fires before they start.

    Losing means he had to answer questions about his starter, this is usually how it starts for losing teams.

    trust me he is still on try out and i doubt he sees that 16 mil net year

  33. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I think McClain is happy because he doesn’t have to work as hard. He can just chill now.

  34. Plunketthead Says:

    Ozzies kid just sang a great NA. One of the best I have ever heard

  35. Plunketthead Says:

    OOPS

    I forgot about the pimp hand :smile:

    Touche!!

  36. La Milicia Negra Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    May 20th, 2010 at 8:06 am

    # edward teach Says:
    May 20th, 2010 at 7:54 am

    LMN,

    Johan Bruyneel is Belgian. The entire time (eleven years) he has directed the US Postal/ Discovery Channel/ Astana, and now Radio Shack teams (same teams, different title sponsor) only one of his riders has failed a doping test. That was this year, he was a new rider to the team from China, and he was fired immediately.

    Eleven years, only one positive drugs test. There have been no teams tested as frequently as his, and none more scrutinized. To say that the French have an agenda and would love to catch Armstrong or Bruyneel in a doping situation is to understate a great deal.

    Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton are two of the higher profile riders that used to ride with Lance Armstrong, and they have both been caught and admitted using PEDs. What these two and a few others have in common is that they never failed a drugs test while riding for Bruyneel, or with Armstrong. They used PEDs while riding for other teams, and in Landis’ and Hamilton’s cases, they left Bruyneel and Armstrong to become team leaders elsewhere. Team leaders have to perform in cycling, and it is very possible that (at least those two) felt the need to “help” their performance using illegal means.

    To say that US Postal’s reputation or any other team Bruyneel has been associated with is “iffy” because of that association is both presumptuous and uninformed.
    ______________________________________________________

    dont teach me about Cyckling…, I corrected my self when I said he was dutch…

    and to say they never been testet poistive is not the same as saying they are clean… Bruyneel was unclean as a rider, but never caught… team-mates admitted they took something together with bruyneel…

    Many many retired riders have admitted they was on it all, and they too was never tested positive…

    So yes, Bruyneel is just a clever cheater than the rest..

    and Breyneels team has not been tested more than others that is simply not true..

    Bruyneel will always be synonym with Doping and cheating but he will mostly be known for getting away with it…

    and of course they are doped.. all top 50 riders, no matter hwat team are doped, they have been since the 1920, some just gets away with it..

    if you believe Lance has been clean all these years is like believe Tiger woods is a virgin..

  37. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    deserves a re-post!!!1

  38. Raider Riff Says:

    J Hill Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    Huff is showing he can be a good #2 corner. Which we badly need. Gio is filling in for Huff just fine. That makes getting our CB issues fixed that much easier. Finding a #1 CB is easier than finding a #1 & #2. So I say Huff stays. He gets better with every game.

    ————————————————————

    Agree that Huff is getting better each game. You know I was one of the VERY few who liked the move to CB from the giddee up.

    Thing is Adams looked good over there too and we still have the kid we brought over from GB. If Huff moves back to S at some point with Spencer getting healthy, to your point, Gio is playing well enough that the GM might look at Huff’s salary as a S as expendable.

    —————-

    From what Ive seen out of Huff, I wouldnt move him back to S even if our DB corps was 100% at some point this year. He’s already better than anything weve seen out of the other guys IMO. And more importantly, he’s looking to be a better CB than S.

    His salary isnt that bad for a good #2 CB.

    Its going to be hard enough to find a #1. We should just stick with Huff at #2 and make things realistic as far as fixing things. Remember, we need some major O-Line help as well. This isnt just a money thing, its a time thing. Time spent finding a #2 CB means time not spent finding better O-Lineman.

  39. La Milicia Negra Says:

    nearly 2 1/2 years ago =) LOL

    eat crow, I believe you would say =)

  40. La Milicia Negra Says:

    so, what are the prediction for our team? 8-8?

  41. Plunketthead Says:

    One things for sure and will never change

    The cowboy with one testicle from Texas rode herd on euro bicylers and dope testers for almost a decade.

    Noone could catch him so they spent tens of millions of dollars to ruin his name

    Nice going LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

    USA!!!!!USA!!!!!!

  42. Raiders for life Says:

    palmer hasnt led to wins and his pick cost the game in atl,

    ################

    Naw, Myers makes that TD catch, Raiders win.
    And I’m still trying to figure out who the fk is #71 called for holding and #49 personal foul on ST’s.
    Allen needs to get the refs over to the sideline and tell the white hats to pick a different number…sheesh.

  43. The Big Banana Says:

    not really what is the coach supposed to say?

    ———

    The problem with this argument is that the coach would just keep his mouth shut if he wasnt happy. Putting out fires? There is no indication whatsoever of a QB controversy except for a few in here led by your Napoleon-esque charge. No media discussion or fan clamor. I’m at the games, despite what you claim the neighborhood folks say, the guys in the seats are not calling for his head. So if you think he’s responding to your comments in here with that statement about putting out fires, you are grossly misleading yourself on the significance of this forum.

  44. J Hill Says:

    Yeah, I’ve already campainged for heavy emphasis on the Oline this upcoming offseason.

    We need a starting OT and OG.

    And a bonafide WR.

  45. Plunketthead Says:

    I am holding out for 11-5
    9-7 if DMAC doesnt cycle on soon

    Have Lance give him a call if you see him (riding herd in Euroland)

  46. JLofty Says:

    Yes LMN, 8-8.

  47. J Hill Says:

    But Reece sure as heck was holding on DMac’s nice run, and Willie Smith’s to holding calls during big runs were flat out blatant.

    Players need to play better.

    Agreed that Myers TD drop was HUGE.

  48. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    One things for sure and will never change

    The cowboy with one testicle from Texas rode herd on euro bicylers and dope testers for almost a decade.

    Noone could catch him so they spent tens of millions of dollars to ruin his name

    Nice going LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

    USA!!!!!USA!!!!!!
    ______________________________________________________

    him and nike paid off the testers, when they were positive..

    root for cheaters, great plunk.. I couldnt care less where he comes from or what team they are from, fact is, the top 50 riders since late 90’s till today are heavily doped..

    I would prefer if they just said, okay from now on you can dope you crazy, its all legal from now on.

  49. La Milicia Negra Says:

    JLofty Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Yes LMN, 8-8.
    ___________________________________________________

    8-8 was my prediction before the season begun, but now I think 7-9… thats allright, lets weed out all the trash and get started with a new beginning, but a good start wont be a fast fix…

    Like Atlanta, Colts or Lions

  50. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    49ers are going to smack Wilson around like the Hulk did Loki.

    49ers 20
    Seahawks 7

  51. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    not really what is the coach supposed to say?

    ———

    The problem with this argument is that the coach would just keep his mouth shut if he wasnt happy. Putting out fires? There is no indication whatsoever of a QB controversy except for a few in here led by your Napoleon-esque charge. No media discussion or fan clamor. I’m at the games, despite what you claim the neighborhood folks say, the guys in the seats are not calling for his head. So if you think he’s responding to your comments in here with that statement about putting out fires, you are grossly misleading yourself on the significance of this forum.=
    ========

    Again most coaches will give lip service in this situation. remember D.A was there when tebow and orton went through the exact same thing. Fox did the same thing by paying lip serivce for orton, but orton was eventually replaced. Not becuase orton was playing poorly, he was decent, but because the tea, was losing with orton at the helm pilling up meaningless stats.

    Bottom line when a team does not win no player can say his job is secure qb in particular.

    losing is why the question of pryor is asked by media members to da, this s why questions about palmers performance are being asked by media members to d.a

    palmer will have to win and keep on his present course of most decent play to keep his gig next year, and it wont be for 16 mil no matter what happens.

    all qbs know just like coaches and gms know win or you are out

    why would anyone think da is responding to anything posted on this board?

  52. Plunketthead Says:

    I am not rooting for Lance

    I am jeering you because you are a hyocrite who badmouths America every chance you get.

    But enough of that. I know you came here to talk Raider football so talk

  53. Raider E Says:

    Seahawks 31
    Whiners 10

  54. Raider guy Says:

    I remember when I was reading over and over on blogs like this how people wanted rich Gannon to step aside for Kerry colins. I love our fan base and I am proud to say I am a raider fan. I take it personally. I am sure all of us in here do. But man, sometimes all the complaining and cynicism in here gets to me. This thing will be alright. We are on the right track. Losses suck. But right now, they are part of the means to our end. I know raider teams that mailed it in by the third game of the season. This ain’t that. No more temporary gap filling. no more high priced mediocre players. We have sstability and a cohesive vision of what we are aiming for. i believe too that we have the coaches and management to do get there.

    Have faith my fellow raider fans. We are on the way. And we will get there. Remember this post at the end of the year and at the start of next when it is a little more clear just how well we are moving a long.

  55. JLofty Says:

    Yeah LMN, we are not real talented. I like how they are starting to gather FOOTBALL players and not just freak athletes.
    It could come together, we could go on a run, I am certainly rooting as such. Getting Bartell and Spencer back would help, seems like there’s some talent in the backups they are just not up to speed just yet. Talking about the Ross’s and Joselio and such. We were waaaay too thin at CB to start the year, we all knew it, the injuries were bad timing.
    Offense might still gel. I believe that it takes some time to change OL schemes and they may still pull that off. I have seen enough fb over the decades to know that a team’s record in December is more important than in Sept….

  56. big pep Says:

    Players like 55 dont give a rats arse if they are benched for 17 or 60 plays. If the teams dont hit there pocket book they could care less. these players like Huff,Seymour,kelly,Romac,branch,Lechler dont give a schyt about the team. they should all be gone next year.

  57. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    just look at last year for example of guys that played solid football but were replaced because the team weas losing.

    matt moore- miami

    kyle orton- denver

    david garrard – jax

    happens all of the time guys

  58. Raider E Says:

    Mistic,

    Your agenda really shows through in your comments.

    DA has repeatedly infered that NO, Pryor is not gpoing to play.

    Your smarter than that, read between the lines. Geez!

  59. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    romac response is highly questionable in my eyes.

    Shouldnt he be a little more upset about being benched? why didnt he say he wanted get back into the role of every down line backer and defensive leader.

    i knew he was in trouble the day he said the pro game wasnt that much more difficult then college.

    This cat has a piss poor attitude

  60. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Shut up Mistic.

  61. Raider E Says:

    David Garrard was injured most of last year. Do you not remember everyone and their mother wanting to sign him here?

  62. The Big Banana Says:

    losing is why the question of pryor is asked by media members to da, this s why questions about palmers performance are being asked by media members to d.a

    —–

    Which questions are you referring to? I thought today’s comments came unprompted.

  63. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Mistic,

    Your agenda really shows through in your comments.

    DA has repeatedly infered that NO, Pryor is not gpoing to play.

    Your smarter than that, read between the lines. Geez!
    =================

    that was my point genius.

    pryor not dressing means fans cant call for him during games or losses like he saw happened with denver and tebow.

    D.A is applying what he learned in that situation.

    praise the starter, keep the intriguing prospect inactive so there can be no controversy and the team can just focus on trying to win.

    However, once you get to the last 3-4 games of the year and you are mathematically out of the playoffs it will be difficult to justify not playing pryor.

  64. Raider E Says:

    They are all asking when DA is gonna bench his Top 15 rated QB, Banana.

    Piss-Stick1 knows this.

  65. bigsnow81 Says:

    La Milicia Negra,

    Did you used to follow the Raider blog on realfootball365.com?

  66. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mistic is so good at spinning his agenda. He should get a job at FOX News.

  67. JLofty Says:

    Romac takes his demotion like man, says all the right things, costs less than $1mil against the cap and STILL is getting bashed in here.
    Too funny….

  68. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    David Garrard was injured most of last year. Do you not remember everyone and their mother wanting to sign him here?
    =============

    garrard was cut by the jags because they drafted gabbert.

    garrad played solid football and even led them to the playoffs, but that one playoff season wasnt enough to hold his job, losing makes you vulnerable

    This goes for any player but especially for qbs

  69. Raider E Says:

    that was my point genius

    ——————————

    I don’t think so, we all know what your really saying.

  70. JLofty Says:

    “that was my point genius.”
    You HAVE a point?!?

  71. bigsnow81 Says:

    garrard sucks

  72. JLofty Says:

    Sucking at your job makes you vulnerable too…

  73. Raider guy Says:

    We were looking into Gerard but he said his back hurt so he took the season off…then we traded for Carson.

  74. Raider E Says:

    Garrard had surgery last season. WOW

  75. JLofty Says:

    Garrard sucked AND was hurt…double whammy for the hired gun athlete.

  76. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    so now you clowns are upset because the coach had to answer questions about palmer? im not the one who asked

    Umm customary when you lose 4 of 5 games, and one loss was because of a god awful pick six.

    why does this bother you guys so much?

  77. JLofty Says:

    Night folks.

    Raiders 24 – Puddytats 13

  78. bigsnow81 Says:

    The season is quite over yet. If the team doesn’t win the next three, then call for prior.

  79. Raider E Says:

    David Garrard has a herniated disk and is going to schedule back surgery this week, he told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen. The Oakland Raiders had reached out to the free-agent quarterback in the wake of Jason Campbell’s broken collarbone but Garrard informed the team that he is not available

    ——————————

    This had noyhing to do with why Jax released him. Your too much, Piss-Stick.

  80. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    why argue about garrard?

    he didnt win enough so he was cut this is football in the nfl win or your gone

  81. bigsnow81 Says:

    Palmer > Garrard, and the Raiders still are not winning.

  82. bigsnow81 Says:

    Is the game sunday a lock?

  83. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    This had noyhing to do with why Jax released him. Your too much, Piss-Stick.
    ==============

    you have screwed up the sequence

    the jags were losing with garrard

    then they drafted garrard

    then he was cut

    then he had surgery

    not sure why it upsets you to accept that the reason he was replaced, the reason gabbert was drafted was because garrard ddint win.

    same for jc in washington. he posted decent stats and played solid football but they didnt win, new coach new system new qb.

    just like cuningham in minny, and in philly

    It happens all of the time win or your gone and palmer is subject to the same rules

  84. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    I am not rooting for Lance

    I am jeering you because you are a hyocrite who badmouths America every chance you get.

    But enough of that. I know you came here to talk Raider football so talk
    ________________________________________________________

    no im not, I think you see ghosts… your first comment to me was about me bashing americans… nothing ive said in these posts have anything todo with america.. it was about doping and coincidently about some person with an american passport..

    Yeah i badmouth bigotry, ignorance, stup!dness and a whole lot more… USA have tons of that, but they have even more of what i love..

    but to say “yeah” for something thats clearly wrong for one only reason because they are american is very misguided, substance should be whats matter not where people comes from.. If a french guy does something great or say something right, one should cheer that, even if USA have had a hatred for France in the last 50-70 years..

  85. La Milicia Negra Says:

    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    La Milicia Negra,

    Did you used to follow the Raider blog on realfootball365.com?
    _____________________________________________________

    yup I was there too, but been here for some 8-9 years now

  86. ottocrat Says:

    I swear to God I thought the headline read:

    McClain says he played ‘pretty damaged goods’ in limited role

  87. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    49ers are going to smack Wilson around like the Hulk did Loki.

    49ers 20
    Seahawks 7
    ___________________________________________________

    49ers 20
    Seahawks 24

  88. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    ok im done for the the day.

    romac has a bd attitude this is evident in his smiling while being hand cuffed and being pleased with going from number 8 draft pick to 17 snaps situational player.

    palmer is correct it is a must win game, not only for the raiders pipe dream of post season play, but for palmer and his raider career or his dreams of cashing a 16 million dollar check.

    Give him credit for playing decent football most of the year and recognizing the urgency of his situation. he isnt paying lip service, he is feeling the weight of losing

  89. La Milicia Negra Says:

    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    The season is quite over yet. If the team doesn’t win the next three, then call for prior.
    ________________________________________________________

    Pryor has no game at all, make him a TE or a RB, he is as talented as Tebow..

  90. Raider E Says:

    Why is Vick still the QB in Philly then, Mistic?

  91. J Hill Says:

    Mistic,

    I’ve been openly considering your wave of the future propoganda. I’ve watched a couple Carolina games and I think Cam Newton is avg at best. Decent player, could get much better with experience.

    RGIII won’t last 2 years taking the hits he takes.

    Russell Wilson looks to be the best of them all from what I’ve seen. He can really PASS the ball.

    I wouldn’t take any of them over Palmer. I’ll keep Palmer, add an OT and a WR.

    I am intrigued to see what Pryor can do when Palmer retires. Maybe year 4 of his contract.

  92. Raiderjambo Says:

    Hey Kell, how’s the vaccay going, or have you returned from ‘ole Swisserland yet?

  93. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Gholdson with the big dummy personal foul.

  94. Raider E Says:

    Give him credit for playing decent football most of the year and recognizing the urgency of his situation

    ——————————

    This is Mistic giving Lip Service in case Palmer continues to prove him wrong.

  95. J Hill Says:

    Unless of course we find a QB to groom who can actually spin it like Palmer, lol.

  96. big pep Says:

    JLofty Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    Romac takes his demotion like man, says all the right things, costs less than $1mil against the cap and STILL is getting bashed in here.
    Too funny….
    ————————————————
    50 somn mill over 5 years, and this team and the fans that pay his fucn salery are suppose to be happy with his “good attitude” and all the “right things” hes saying. enough is enough with clowns like this on this team. I bet Urlacher or lewis would not be happy talking about how great they played in there 15 give your starter a breather plays.

  97. bigsnow81 Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    La Milicia Negra,

    Did you used to follow the Raider blog on realfootball365.com?
    _____________________________________________________

    yup I was there too, but been here for some 8-9 years now
    ******************************************************

    I was there to

  98. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ohh well im out, see you guys again some great day…

  99. bigsnow81 Says:

    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    La Milicia Negra,

    Did you used to follow the Raider blog on realfootball365.com?
    _____________________________________________________

    yup I was there too, but been here for some 8-9 years now
    ******************************************************

    I was there to
    __________________________________________________

    I have seen you on here before

  100. big pep Says:

    WOW, THE WEATHER SURE LOOKS GORGEOUS OUT THERE IN THE B-AREA.

  101. J Hill Says:

    Bottom line is 55 is a BIG guy. On draft day, we were told the guy was as big as an OG.

    I always thought it was funny that his speed and agility, or lack there of, was some sort of surprise.

    He is and always was an ILB, not a MLB.

    Offensive guards shouldn’t be playing pass defense.

  102. Raiderjambo Says:

    TP is doing everything right. Working hard, taking his non-activation on game days in stride, and also being involved in the local community. Whether this young man makes it in the NFL as a QB, I don’t know, but I do believe there has to be a place for him on any given Sunday. This kid is too good an athlete/threat, to at least not give opposing Defensive Coordinators a little bit of a headache. That also goes with Marcel Reece and Taiwan Jones, you don’t have to play them every down, but at least get them in there.

  103. La Milicia Negra Says:

    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    bigsnow81 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    La Milicia Negra,

    Did you used to follow the Raider blog on realfootball365.com?
    _____________________________________________________

    yup I was there too, but been here for some 8-9 years now
    ******************************************************

    I was there to
    ____________________________________________________

    yeah i faintly remember your moniker, something regardig Ronald Curry (or another) making a late game catch for 81 yards and we won the game (??!?)

  104. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Bigsnow81..

    or was it your avatar?

  105. J Hill Says:

    Marcel Reece ….

    SMH

    What do you really expect from this guy, 4 or 5 catches a game?

    I want my FB to be able to block FIRST and foremost. Oren O’Neal was the biggest injury that has yet to be replaced.

  106. J Hill Says:

    Why not just move Reece back to WR?

  107. La Milicia Negra Says:

    well anyhoo, im going down to the yard, with my Stephen King book and a beer and some smokes.. enjoy the game gents..

    im recording it, I get loooong balls of all those breaks, so I’ll watch tomorrow and Ffwd over the breaks =)

  108. Raiders for life Says:

    JC in 2011 played 6 games, completed 100 out of 165 passing attemts, comp 60.6%, 1170 yds, 6 td’s, 4 int’s

    Palmer in 2012 5 games. completed 122 out of 195 passing attemts, comp 62.6%, 1434 yds, 6 td’s, 3 int’s

    Yes, Raiders were 4-2 when JC went down, but to say he is heads and tails better than CP? Stats look pretty even. Hmmmmm, maybe it’s not a QB problem.

  109. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I really hope Allen turns out to be a Harbaugh or Bellichek.

  110. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    49er DBs are cry babies. They don’t like it when Lynch unloads on them.

  111. KoolKell Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    I am not rooting for Lance

    I am jeering you because you are a hyocrite who badmouths America every chance you get.

    But enough of that. I know you came here to talk Raider football so talk
    ———————–
    What a low brow moron.

  112. Raiderjambo Says:

    109. By his demeanor on gameday Da is going to be more Bellichek than Harbaugh.

  113. KoolKell Says:

    Raiderjambo Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Hey Kell, how’s the vaccay going, or have you returned from ‘ole Swisserland yet?
    ————
    Back home, safe & sound. :-)

  114. RaiderSteve Says:

    I wanna join Kool Kell’s gang.

    More dangerous than you think.

  115. Raiderjambo Says:

    Kell, Nothing better than being back home in your comfortable surroundings, right?

  116. RaiderIN.260 Says:

    I too thought Reese would be tearin it up by now. With continued improvment from players and coaches alike 10-6 if not, 6-10

  117. KoolKell Says:

    My comfortable bed, particularly.

  118. RaiderSteve Says:

    Seattle will teach those sixty niners a lesson.

    Finally shut up everybody that says they’re the best team in the league.

  119. RaiderSteve Says:

    Yeah. The 69′ers look unbeatable. LMAO.

  120. Raiders for life Says:

    Note to self……
    Next year during OTA’s and training camp. Do not get exited about any WR’s. WTF Criner?

  121. RaiderSteve Says:

    Go Russel Wilson…GO GO GO!

  122. Raider E Says:

    Niners have excellent LB’s. The rest of the team is average NFL talent with Alex smith bringing up the rear.

  123. RaiderSteve Says:

    Maybe if they actually put Criner in the game…and then throw the ball to him, he can make some plays.

  124. RaiderSteve Says:

    When a guy has as his avatar Gale Sayers,,,he’s a Bears fan.

    Cork is a Bears fan.

  125. Raider E Says:

    Tom Cable’s o-line sure looks good.

  126. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    The explanation by Tarver on how he defended against Atlanta in the last minute of the game and the praise they gave Palmer in regards to his quarterbacking, is pretty much in line with the way level minded Raider fans think.

    Compared to some of the extreme idiots in here.

    Not all of you of course. There’s plenty of good reading in here by some of the vet bloggers.

    Go Raiders!

  127. Plunketthead Says:

    KK why you mad, bro?

    Oboma will find another job. He wont starve.
    Besides Romney is the devil. He will continue doing the same things Oboma did that bush did

  128. RaiderSteve Says:

    Tom Cable is a very good Oline coach. Can’t take that away from him.

  129. Raider E Says:

    I don’t think he was that bad of a head coach either, Steve.

  130. RaiderIN.260 Says:

    Criners ankle still an issue? Or..cant get a handle on playbook? DA doesnt think he can out perform Hagan/Streater?

  131. Raider E Says:

    KK always seems mad? I don’t get it? He is so quick to judge a post on here too.

  132. RaiderSteve Says:

    E, I agree with you.

  133. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    KK misses Al.

  134. Raider E Says:

    Alex Smith is the worst QB in the league, Hands down!!!!

  135. RaiderSteve Says:

    You all love Kell. Just admit it and stop fighting it.

  136. RaidersOne Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    I think McClain is happy because he doesn’t have to work as hard. He can just chill now.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I am sure 55 is happy about being cut down to less than 20 plays per game. He sounded really relieved actually, that the coaches would send him in, give him a definite assignment which he followed.

    Now he doesn’t have to think, which is not his strong suit anyway.

    In between plays he can just fag around. I wouldn’t be surprised if Beeechy Baby sneaked on field and sucked him off in the shadows.

    Yes we can!

  137. Raider E Says:

    I really don’t feel any particular way about KK. Not my problem.

  138. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Although I think they are done now.. if Raiders lose 1 of there next 3 games .. season is over.

    The trade set up back big time because we were more then a qb away. I know it was HUE. I also know he was under the impression he would be coaching however .. Palmer has only given us 1 win this year and its not worth it. Yes the qb takes the blame.

  139. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    That horrible Carson palmer trade is still gonna screw the Raiders this year with the 2nd round pick. That could have been huge for this team.

    So if the Raiders pick in the top 7 i See Reggie getting more picks.

    Raiders need MLB Manti Teo’ or stay with the 7th pick and draft an ELITE PASS RUSHER.. or PREMIRE DT halio Ngata type . That NT/ DT from UTAH Star leoutiu

    Or trade down and draft TEo’ and a CORNBERBACK like Rhodes from Florida state.

    and please dont call PALMER a Pro bowl qb.. that was a long time ago.. just like seymour is pratically done already. Palmer gives u stats .. then he can also lose the game for u like ATL.

    Like Rod Woodson said .. PALMER is a qb that is always gonna throw the INTS

  140. morilla Says:

    The Niners aren’t a contender. They are paper tigers.

  141. Plunketthead Says:

    Very impressed with the DA for rooting out Rolondo.
    I hope this is the best thing that ever happened to him and he turns into a beast on the line.

  142. Raider E Says:

    McClain is not an MLB. He is a ILB in a 3-4. He needs that guy next to him period. He is just as much a victim of poor scheme as anyone.

    He is not fast enough and doesn’t have the range of a 4-3 MLB.

    It has been talked about his whole career and no one seems to get it.

  143. KoolKell Says:

    I’ve got 8-10 Trolls just standing in line
    And, ain’t a day pass
    I don’t kick 4-5 of them
    In their no good assz.

  144. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    I think McClain is happy because he doesn’t have to work as hard. He can just chill now.
    ———-
    Ha. That’s the initial impression I got after reading what he said. Maybe the Chrohns disease has something to do with it?

  145. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Steve Corkran ‏@CorkOnTheNFL

    Chargers official website tells instructs fans to “Take A Chill Pill.” This is a first, and a must read: http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Take-a-Chill-Pill/2ac2453b-53de-4bc5-a5de-6de3bd0c1c74

  146. morilla Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    McClain is not an MLB. He is a ILB in a 3-4. He needs that guy next to him period. He is just as much a victim of poor scheme as anyone.

    He is not fast enough and doesn’t have the range of a 4-3 MLB.

    It has been talked about his whole career and no one seems to get it.
    ———————–

    You can see it in short yardage situations / goal line. He does well in those two areas and that’s about it. He’s not good in space at all.

  147. J Hill Says:

    Why on earth would we draft a MLB with our 1st rd pick?

    Burris and Wheeler are doing just fine.

    OT or WR with the #1 pick.

  148. Raider E Says:

    Oh Kell,

    Quit doing your Mother Goose impression and offer something constructive to the blog, or see your way out, Big Fella.

  149. morilla Says:

    Could have gotten Burfict with coupons.

  150. raidertalk Says:

    “If they can sell out the Jaguars game, then it’s likely that the remainder of their home games this season will sell out.”
    –Corkran

    Wow. IS there any way to support this statement Corky? If they sell out the Jags game and we lose…why or how would the rest of the year sell-out?

  151. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    You draft a MLB if u are gonna run a 3-4 or the best player available. No way Reggie picks a WR with number 1 pick.

    Since Raiders will be picking in the TOP 10.. you gotta go with the big man up front on the DLine or Pass rusher.

    Also on the Raiders draft a guy and put him out of position. MCCLAIN has always been a 3-4 Backer. He played awesome at bama when he had a big time NT in front of him. Doesnt play a 4-3 by himself in the middle

  152. Raider E Says:

    Especially when the guy isn’t a MLB, Jhill.

    He was a 3-4 ILB when drafted just as he is now.

  153. DJ Johnny Says:

    In the last half season of reg. season games…8 games…Palmer has had 10 td’s and 6 int’s.

    Yeah Plamer is always gonna throw some int’s. So does every QB.

    Palmer is NOT the problem.

    Everyone wants him to be a super hero.

    He doesn’t play defense and he doesn’t drop easy td passes in the end zone.

  154. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    “What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes” – Manti Te’o

  155. raiderkoolaid Says:

    We don’t know when we are drafting or who will still be on the board, so I really can’t form an opinion as to who we should draft. If Gino Smith is there though, and the coaching staff thinks he is an elite qb, then they need to take him even if Palmer is great the rest of the season.

  156. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Ya like I said.. you only do that PALMER trade if you are close. Not when u are in rebuilding. but like I said. Reggie was left with a mess.

    At some point in time Reggie is gonna want to draft his own qb. I know he was talking to Russell wilson heavily at the SENIOR bowl.. Only we had no picks at all.

    I read 5th round is where Raiders would have taken him only because we had no picks and we needed other spots.

    I cant say forsure if PALMER comes back next year at 15 million dollars salary

  157. RaiderSteve Says:

    I dont break qbs down into racial groups and then evaluate them. i simply evaluate. ther is no separate evaluation process based on skin color as you are trying to say there is.

    Get over it bra, only you and some of these other fools look for race first.
    #########################################

    I told you guys. Homie is bringin’ it.

    Dude is a baller.

  158. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    @ 138

    You can’t blame the driver (CP3) if all the parts of the car aren’t working correctly. You can though blame the mechanic (Knapp) for trying to install a system that doesn’t compliment the type of engine (DMAC) it needs to run on.

    CP3’s int wasn’t the direct result of our loss, it’s a team game and he did play well.

    Just my 2.

  159. Raider E Says:

    Cockran is always making those kinds of statements, and then conveys his objectivity.

    Remember how the Bolts were gonna lay down last season.

    Or how about Checkwa being a player to watch as having a breakout year.

    You can count on Cockran being wrong when he makes a bold statement, but he does a good job otherwise. I appreciate his effort.

  160. DJ Johnny Says:

    158,

    And a fine 2 it was Miami.

  161. mcfadden20. Says:

    Wave of the future is completing just 46% of the passes and winning because of his D allowed only 3 points ..if the score stays the same and Wilson completed less than 50% for the game..certain guy would come n tell us Seattle won because of him lol

  162. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Although Im no Palmer hater..and enjoy watching him play (like it matters) I didnt want the trade to go down. I said from the beginning that it would be a mistake and Palmer was not very mobile and it would just be a mistake.

    Palmer has shown that he is not any superior upgrade over Jason Campbell. Last year JC was above average and threw the deep ball well. Go back and look at the buffalo.. game .. or even in 2010 the OT game to chiefs.. that Sandiego game where he had trick plays and threw deep to murphy.

  163. Raiders for life Says:

    Help me understand how CP lost the atlanta game. Veldheer got beat, Smith got his fukin azz whooped. Unfortunate penalties by the offensive team. CP did not lose that game by himself, fact is he kept them in it until the end.

  164. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I’d rather be playing a Rookie with huge upside. . Palmer had a chance to win the game against ATL and his words.. gave them game away.

    I’d rather pay a Rookie with huge upside like Wilson instead of a guy who is past his prime 12-15 million dollars. That money can be spent else where. Just like Shane Lechler is gone next year

  165. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Thanks Dj Johnny!

  166. KoolKell Says:

    Corkran rarely criticizes Knapp, if ever.

  167. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Qb’s take all the blame and get the credit when they win. Just like Brady takes the heat when they lose.. or Rodgers.. or any qb.

    its a team game.. but its the Qb. You cant tell me it was the olines fault for that PICK 6. gimme a break

  168. raidertalk Says:

    As far as Draft this team desperately needs a Big POSESSION Wide Receiver with hands that can grab the rock on Thirds and Red Zone situations. Been saying this for years. We have a bunch of smallish speedster Wrs and our only possession receiver is HAGAN and he’s undersized for jump-ball situations.

    Criner, was supposed to fill that need but he is a MAJOR BUST in my opinion (well for whatever round draft pick he was anyway).
    –He still doesn’t know the playbook
    –Already oft injured
    –Late round draft pick and was holding–out before camp I believe he missed some OTAs
    –What kind of idiot holds out when he’s a late round pick and still doesn’t know the damn playbook (reminds me of the JaMarcus holdout)

  169. J Hill Says:

    I agree that 55 is an ILB. He’s not getting 5 million next season, so it is what it is.

    Burris and Wheeler look just fine as our 2 top LBs. We paid next to nothing for them.

    Bryant, Houston, and Bilikudi are the DTs of the future.

    OT is CLEARLY the biggest need on the team. WR is next. Look what happens to our O when D Moore goes out. Maybe Streater or Criner will eventually be that guy.

  170. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’m as upset as anyone about Palmers int. That was so deflating…Unfortunately we needed to play a mistake free game against Atl.

    Myers needed to catch that TD pass…Raider D needed to hold with 40 secs. left and Palmer needed to NOT throw that int.

    If Raiders don’t screw up..they can beat anybody.

    They screw up too much.

    Catch the ball….talking to you DHB and Myers.

    Did Myers pick a lousy time to drop a pass or what?

  171. J Hill Says:

    Criner doesn’t knowthe playbook???

    Where did you get that?

  172. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    If we are going to point the finger, then the defense is to blame as well for giving up the yards that led to the FG.

    It was Palmer who led us down the field to tie the game.

    Team game.

  173. J Hill Says:

    With DHB, it’s more like run the correct damn route!!!!

  174. morilla Says:

    People will still be saying the same thing next year, it’s crazy talk in here. Palmer will be the QB next year as well, that’s a fact.

  175. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Criner was a 5th round pick. They say WR take like 3 years. Im not even joking. I think chris carter said that. Well unless u are like a top 10 pick.

    I would like to see Ausberry used in RZ

  176. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See October 18, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] McClain says he played ‘pretty danged good’ in limited role Coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver say middle linebacker Rolando McClain had his most productive game Sunday, at least in terms of on a production-per-snap basis. McClain agreed with that assessment. “It was 17 plays, and… [...]

  177. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raiders drop so many passes we don’t even notice it cuz we’ve been so conditioned to seeing it.

    The guys are saying on tv (SF v. Sea.) that “if Seattle loses they can look back to what could have been”. They were referring to Sea. dropping 3 passes.

    How many did Raiders drop vs. Atl.? There are 4 that I remember. Dmoore dropped one, Dhb an easy one and of course the Myers one in the end zone. Then there were like 3 that DMAC dropped right?

  178. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    DHB needs to run as fast and as far as he can on every down. Lol Stretch the defense like Cable use to say. It’s what suits him.

  179. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    actually its not a fact that Palmer is back next year. Reggie said it remained to be seen. Everything is under evaluation.

    I dont think he is lying. I say its 50 / 50 at this point

  180. Raiders for life Says:

    its a team game.. but its the Qb. You cant tell me it was the olines fault for that PICK 6. gimme a break

    #############################

    So it was CP’s fault for Myers not making that catch in the endzone that hit him right in the chest?
    And yes, the O-Line does take some of the blame, team sport. Smith fk’d some good plays. Who got beat to cause the Palmer fumble?

  181. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Russell Wilson has been on point tonight. He throws straight lazer darts. his guys catch like the Raiders though

  182. DJ Johnny Says:

    …i realize my math is aschew. Maybe there were just 2 that DMAC dropped. That makes FIVE.

    You can’t have that, but we’re so used to seeing it and almost accepting it as part of the Raiders game that we almost look past it as a factor.

    Good teams don’t drop passes like that. Especially in the red zone…or the end zone.

  183. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Dropped passes, not converting 3rd downs or not being able to stop your opponent from converting them, is Demoralizing.

    Add penalties to that.

  184. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    its a team game.. but its the Qb. You cant tell me it was the olines fault for that PICK 6. gimme a break

    #############################

    So it was CP’s fault for Myers not making that catch in the endzone that hit him right in the chest?
    And yes, the O-Line does take some of the blame, team sport. Smith fk’d some good plays. Who got beat to cause the Palmer fumble?

    ——————

    Did meyers give ATL any points now? Raiders still got a field goal. Palmer said it was his fault he gave the AtL the game. Greg papa, and ROMO said the same thing.. in a close game you cant have a PICK 6. Palmer gave them a touchdown and needed to come right back down the field to tie it up again. It was a different game at that point.

    Im not palmer hater.. but im also realistic and he is not going to take you anywhere significant. He is not gonna take you any further then what jason campbell would have.

  185. Raider E Says:

    Seems like these guys always have 1-3 players that did not come to play on Sunday.

    Its always one guy getting penalties, dropping touchdowns, or missing tackles.

    Every week they could give a least valuble player award and have a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place.

    That reflects directly on coaching, and in that regard we have a bunch of amatuers in comparison to the rest of the league.

    I’m rooting for 4-4 at mid-season, but it is highly unlikely.

  186. morilla Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    actually its not a fact that Palmer is back next year. Reggie said it remained to be seen. Everything is under evaluation.

    I dont think he is lying. I say its 50 / 50 at this point
    —————-

    He’ll be back. After evaluating CPs performance there is no reason to let him go. They need him back for at least one more year to either let TP get to #2 or draft a franchise QB.

    I don’t see the GM saying screw it and throwing in a rookie or TP as the starter for the season.

  187. KoolKell Says:

    I saw DMAC make a shoestring catch for a 1st down, against Atl.

  188. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    exaclty. Im realistic. When is the last time the Raiders won 3 games in a row?

    When is the last time they have won a game they were suppose to really?

    WHen is the last time the Raiders play some conisten football meaning ..yes they played well in ATL could they do the same the following week?

    I thought they were gonna give denver a game after beating the steelers.. then………….. we all know what happenend

  189. Raider guy Says:

    Repost

    I remember when I was reading over and over on blogs like this how people wanted rich Gannon to step aside for Kerry colins. I love our fan base and I am proud to say I am a raider fan. I take it personally. I am sure all of us in here do. But man, sometimes all the complaining and cynicism in here gets to me. This thing will be alright. We are on the right track. Losses suck. But right now, they are part of the means to our end. I know raider teams that mailed it in by the third game of the season. This ain’t that. No more temporary gap filling. no more high priced mediocre players. We have sstability and a cohesive vision of what we are aiming for. i believe too that we have the coaches and management to do get there.

    Have faith my fellow raider fans. We are on the way. And we will get there. Remember this post at the end of the year and at the start of next when it is a little more clear just how well we are moving a long.

  190. DJ Johnny Says:

    Surely the ‘new wave of qb’ Russell Wilson can engineer more than 6 pt’s right?

    The breathtaking athletic qb with the skills of which has never before been seen? Breathtaking to watch?

  191. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    October 18th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    actually its not a fact that Palmer is back next year. Reggie said it remained to be seen. Everything is under evaluation.

    I dont think he is lying. I say its 50 / 50 at this point
    —————-

    He’ll be back. After evaluating CPs performance there is no reason to let him go. They need him back for at least one more year to either let TP get to #2 or draft a franchise QB.

    I don’t see the GM saying screw it and throwing in a rookie or TP as the starter for the season.

    —————————

    Maybe but I know Reggie is evaluating this year so if we are in true “REBUILD” mode I think he takes a chance on a rookie if he can get the Qb he likes. Meaning why pay palmer all that loot if we are not gonna make a deep playoff push? Why not start fresh with a rookie and let him get reps and learn the system. What if the Raiders draft a guy like Barkley or Geno Smith.. or Landry Jones in the 3rd round? I think everything is on the table in all honesty

  192. mcfadden20. Says:

    Wave of future 40% completion percentage even with M Lynch averaging 6.5 yards a carry and D keeping him in the game

  193. KoolKell Says:

    Another diehard told me today, that DA is 3 for 3 in challenges.

  194. TerrapinRaider Says:

    What getting on my nerves a bit are these weak asz beat writers. ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS!!! They’re just kissing asz.

    The new regime came in here expecting to win right away with the roster we had in place. We won 8 games last year, and if it were not for the damn defense would have been double digits! Playoffs!! And who knows maybe SB!

    But noooooo …these know it alls came in the fuk’d everything up with their genius schemes. You barely get any hard questions on this blog. None that I can even recall.

    This regime is failing big time and not a peep out of these damn reporters. They all love Knapp. KNAPP IS TRASH!!!!

  195. Raider E Says:

    The reason Carson will be back next year is that there is no RG III, Andrew Luck, or Cam Newton coming out next year.

    Geno? Please…. Barkley? He sucks….

    Free agents? Yeah right….

    Carson will be the starter next year.

  196. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Well seahawks have a guy they are paying 12 million to.. why isnt he starting. By that I mean.. lets say the seachickens had palmer.

    Would they be significantly better? I dont think they would. So Carrol is letting the Rookie learn the ropes because he feels that he will be that much better in the long run. The only reason they have flynn around is because they already has all that guarenteed money in flynn. To late now to admit they screwd up.

    Next year the Raiders owe Palmer nothing.

  197. morilla Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    actually its not a fact that Palmer is back next year. Reggie said it remained to be seen. Everything is under evaluation.

    I dont think he is lying. I say its 50 / 50 at this point
    —————-

    He’ll be back. After evaluating CPs performance there is no reason to let him go. They need him back for at least one more year to either let TP get to #2 or draft a franchise QB.

    I don’t see the GM saying screw it and throwing in a rookie or TP as the starter for the season.

    —————————

    Maybe but I know Reggie is evaluating this year so if we are in true “REBUILD” mode I think he takes a chance on a rookie if he can get the Qb he likes. Meaning why pay palmer all that loot if we are not gonna make a deep playoff push? Why not start fresh with a rookie and let him get reps and learn the system. What if the Raiders draft a guy like Barkley or Geno Smith.. or Landry Jones in the 3rd round? I think everything is on the table in all honesty

    ————————-

    I can understand that way of thinking as well. I guess I am used to the old school grooming method. But it’s a different day and age. Look at all the rookie starters this year. It’s a “now” league.

  198. Raiders for life Says:

    Did meyers give ATL any points now? Raiders still got a field goal. Palmer said it was his fault he gave the AtL the game. Greg papa, and ROMO said the same thing.. in a close game you cant have a PICK 6. Palmer gave them a touchdown and needed to come right back down the field to tie it up again. It was a different game at that point.

    Im not palmer hater.. but im also realistic and he is not going to take you anywhere significant. He is not gonna take you any further then what jason campbell would have.

    ########################

    I’ll give you that, bad timing for sure and a piss poor pass that shouldn’t have been thrown. But….the Raiders could have won that game regardless. One dropped pass that was on the money.

  199. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    actually DA is 6 for 6 on challenges. He also almost never waste a Timeout. He always has all of his 3 timeouts in the before the half and at the end of the game.

    I heard on sunday Harbaugh is like 1 for 7 on challenges this year. He is red flag happy

  200. TerrapinRaider Says:

    All the stats are there for everyone to see. Just pick them and ask the freakin’ questions. Don’t ask Palmer why DMC is having a hard time …ask the damn Coaches calling the freakin’ plays, running this pitful, unimaginative scheme!!!

    That post damn near pissed me off. What the f’k you think Palmer is going to say? You ask the coaches that. They may give ‘coach speak’ but if you throw all the night-n-day stats in their face they cannot deny the results! Its pitful!

  201. mcfadden20. Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
    I’d rather be playing a Rookie with huge upside. . Palmer had a chance to win the game against ATL and his words.. gave them game away.

    I’d rather pay a Rookie with huge upside like Wilson instead of a guy who is past his prime 12-15 million dollars. That money can be spent else where. Just like Shane Lechler is gone next year

    —-
    Huge upside??? Nice to know you still hang around Mistic … Huge upside doesn’t go in mid draft

  202. RaiderReggie Says:

    RaiderReggie Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Dakota Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    57.Raider Riff Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Dakota Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Too bad the community doesn’t give the Raiders the Stadium they need to stay in Oakland.

    ————–

    It’s the communities job to show support by buying tickets.

    It’s the team’s job to put a decent product on the field so the community will continue to show support.

    It’s then then teams job to take those profits and go build their own damn stadium if they need to. Threatening to go back to LA every 6 months is not the type of environment that fosters support for the community. This org had a waiting lidt 10 years long for tickets before the first move to LA. It’s up to them to regain our trust.

    It certainly isnt the communities job to foot the bill for a new stadium.

    ++++++++++++

    LMAO if you and others in Oakland think that is how the world works with new stadiums, then you might as well kiss the Raiders goodbye once again. The Viqueens are only paying just under 50% of the cost of their new $975 million dollar stadium. Broncos only paid about 32% of their stadium costs. Colts only about 14% of their stadium costs. Cards only about 33%.

    So look for Oakland to have to pony up about 50-70% of the stadium costs….or the Raiders will be on the move.
    ——————————————————
    Amen! If all of these small to medium size cities can come up with revenue to help fund these teams, I don’t see why the city of Oakland can’t come up with some of the money. If they think they are going to keep the Raiders in an old football/baseball stadium they are fooling themselves and the fans. Poor Management!!!.

  203. mcfadden20. Says:

    lets go Raiders

  204. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I’d take the reincarnation of Gannon, with a better arm, over anyone of these QB’s coming out of college. You run really fast, you’ll get hit and go down even harder. Especially with concussions and all.

    The mental aspect and demeanor of Rich is what really impressed me.

  205. RaidO Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    The reason Carson will be back next year is that there is no RG III, Andrew Luck, or Cam Newton coming out next year.

    Geno? Please…. Barkley? He sucks….

    Free agents? Yeah right….

    Carson will be the starter next year.
    —————————–

    CP is owed $13 Million next year. If he does not take a substantial pay cut he is GONE. Even more so since it looks like the Raiders will go 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10.

  206. Raider E Says:

    Gannon was a choke artist.

  207. DJ Johnny Says:

    Don’t tell me Russell Wilson can’t score pts. all on his own…Palmer is supposed to right?

    That’s what I hear anyway.

  208. TerrapinRaider Says:

    DMC, unbelivable talent wasting away in a bad scheme for him. He is the best player we have (and Palmer)!

    Palmer, down the field threat they are only slowing starting to realize after the nauseating dinks-n-dunks to start the season.

    Reece is completely under-utilized (unreal). Its like they never watched film from last year.

    TJ, the fast RB we have can even sniff the field.

    DHB, they cannot even find ways to get the ball in his hands.

    The RB/TE/FB screens that were deadly last year are no where to be found this year. Again, like they never watched film from last year.

    Just unimaginative offense across the board.

    Chekwa close to being cut, DVD is cut, Routt is out, CJ is out …the whole secondary gutted for a bunch of bums who are not better as a whole for what they replaced.

    I can go on and on …this crew sucks!

  209. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Really Raider E?

    I must have missed that.

    Not sure if you heard Lynch say during or after the Superbowl (I can’t recall),”they’re running all the plays against us we saw in practice.”

    That’s if you’re talking about the Superbowl?

  210. Raiders for life Says:

    CP is owed $13 Million next year. If he does not take a substantial pay cut he is GONE. Even more so since it looks like the Raiders will go 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10.

    #################

    So the Raiders can bow out of his contract?

  211. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    ok rusell wilson doesnt have a huge upside.. and pete carroll doesnt know talent

  212. Raider E Says:

    Who are the Raiders gonna get to replace him, RiadO? Matt Schaub, Joe Flacco?

    They will both be available, but they are not coming here.

    Curtis Painter will be a free agent lol.

    You gonna draft Geno or Barkley and give them the keys? They both suck….

  213. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    raidertalk Says:
    “If they can sell out the Jaguars game, then it’s likely that the remainder of their home games this season will sell out.”
    –Corkran

    Wow. IS there any way to support this statement Corky? If they sell out the Jags game and we lose…why or how would the rest of the year sell-out?===========I assumed he meant it as coming off a loss and playing possibly the least interesting team in the NFL.

  214. Raider guy Says:

    E…that is stupid

  215. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    at the end of the day I just want to see the Raiders WIN

  216. RaidO Says:

    Actually, if the Raiders lose to the Jags on Sunday it’s time to bring in TP and see what he can do. “Evaluate” and see what they got.

  217. KoolKell Says:

    I hear ya Terrapin.

  218. TerrapinRaider Says:

    And Special Teams …don’t get me started. Horrible.

  219. Raider E Says:

    Sorry, always hated Gannon even though I rooted for him cause he was a Raider for a couple years.

    He is and always will be a choke artist. Did Lynch make him throw the ball right to him too?

    Thoe ints were worse than the O’Donnell to Larry Brown one.

  220. RaidO Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    Who are the Raiders gonna get to replace him, RiadO? Matt Schaub, Joe Flacco?

    They will both be available, but they are not coming here.

    Curtis Painter will be a free agent lol.

    You gonna draft Geno or Barkley and give them the keys? They both suck….
    ——————————

    You know the Reggie “rhetoric”. He will bring in “his guy”

  221. Raiders for life Says:

    215.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    at the end of the day I just want to see the Raiders WIN

    ####################

    I endorse this message and completely agree with it.

  222. Raider E Says:

    I respect that you all were Gannon lovers, I personally could not stand the guy. So be it.

  223. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I guess what Im really trying to say is.. why do the Raiders always get stuck with big contracts. Like paying players Probowl level money and dont get anwywhere near that in production. Huff is getting as much if not more then Ed Reed. Tommy kelly getting paid well.

    Basically. We have Palmer.. it was a big trade. Big time money being paid.. and for what? FORRR WHAT!?

  224. Raider guy Says:

    Terrapin…i am with you on where is marcel…but ask the queefs how they like routt. I watched part of the KC Balt game and in that brief time, dude had two holding calls to keep drives alive. On Sirius this morning they were making fun of routt…you know…one of the highest paid players in last years team…the one who was the most penalized in the league. DVD? Please. He sucks on special teams and that was our starter? Tj hasn’t proven he can do it in practice and Chris Johnson? Dude was cut and never got a tryout anywhere else…I agree that the o needs to do a better job with the play calling, but personnel moves are not an issue

  225. J Hill Says:

    I hated that noodle armed Gannon too at the time

  226. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    DJ Johnny Says: …i realize my math is aschew.=========Aschew? bless you. Just joking.

  227. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    I respect that you all were Gannon lovers, I personally could not stand the guy. So be it.
    ———-
    J Hill Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    I hated that noodle armed Gannon too at the time
    ——-
    I guess you guys like losing, huh? Gannon was the only good thing to happen to the Raiders in the last 20 years.

  228. Raider E Says:

    Tommy kelly restructured and is an above average DT.

  229. J Hill Says:

    What exactly are you Reece’s supporter’s looking for from him?

    You think he should get more targets instead of the WRs?

    A FULLBACK?

    Screens????

    What are you looking for?

  230. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Anyone who calls Gannon a choker is an idiot.

  231. Raider E Says:

    Hey Bigelow,

    What did Gannon win?

  232. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    It just occurred to me that, if not for Mistic, nobody here would even be talking about Palmer because the quality of his play is so obvious. He needs to keep the issue on the front burner to further his own agenda. Happy Carson Palmer Day.

  233. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    The Raiders getting stuck with players who underperform but get cut the big checks will be a thing of the past.

    Get paid, based on the way you perform

    Not

    Perform and base your salary on results that have yet to be seen on the field.

  234. RaidO Says:

    I could see maybe 3 to 5 more wins.

    Jags= Better win. If loss= TP time

    Chiefs= Win
    Buccaneers= Loss
    Ravens= Loss
    Saints= Loss
    Bengals= Loss- Maybe Win
    Browns= Win
    Broncos= Loss
    Chiefs= Win
    Panthers= Loss
    Chargers= Loss

    4-12, 5-11, 6-10 pick one.

    This is what you call a “wasted season”.

  235. Raider E Says:

    He went home a loser just like the other 30 teams in his years here, Big Dummy.

  236. KoolKell Says:

    Do the 49ers run the ZBS? Their ground game is killin it.

  237. fangsraiders Says:

    “russell wilson Wave of the Future” = 6 of 16 for 103 = QB rating = 34 LMFAO!!! = monkey can’t play QB!!

  238. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raider E Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    Hey Bigelow,

    What did Gannon win?
    ——-
    He pulled off a miracle and got the Raiders to the Super Bowl. The only reason he lost was because the opposing team’s head coach new all of his plays.

  239. Raider E Says:

    Do the 49ers run the ZBS? Their ground game is killin it.

    —————————-

    Seattle does and they have been running well too.

  240. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    All Gannon did was help us turn around the franchise and make us respectable again.

  241. Raider E Says:

    He pulled off a miracle and got the Raiders to the Super Bowl. The only reason he lost was because the opposing team’s head coach new all of his plays

    ——————————-

    A miracle? You should check out the roster in 2002. Besides that excuses are for losers like you.

  242. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    All Gannon did was help us turn around the franchise and make us respectable again.
    —–
    And soon as he left, we became losers again.

  243. Raider E Says:

    All Gannon did was help us turn around the franchise and make us respectable again.

    ————————–

    3 good seasons is not a turn around. The team was older and their window was very brief.

    He didnt do it by himself, Son.

  244. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Team game Raider E

    That’s why suck balls now.

    Can’t believe you disregard what he did here like that. Lol

    4,600 yds 26 TD 10 ints in 2002

  245. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Gannon and Marcus were Raider league MVPs. I don’t think it is a coincidence that they were both vilified later by Al’s sycophants because they out shined Al.

  246. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    No one does it by themselves.

    That’s why it’s retarded to blame CP3 for losing.

  247. KoolKell Says:

    Lol.

  248. RaiderReggie Says:

    fangsraiders Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    “russell wilson Wave of the Future” = 6 of 16 for 103 = QB rating = 34 LMFAO!!! = monkey can’t play QB!!
    —————————————————-
    Russell Wilson also had 5 drop passes. Whats up with that monkey bs?

  249. Chris in NY Says:

    No offense to Frank Gore, a great running back. But I think McFadden may rush for 600 yards and 5 TDs with the holes that 49ers offensive line has been opening tonight.

  250. DJ Johnny Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    It just occurred to me that, if not for Mistic, nobody here would even be talking about Palmer because the quality of his play is so obvious. He needs to keep the issue on the front burner to further his own agenda. Happy Carson Palmer Day.

    Same to you.

    Seems Carson Palmer is the only player who actually cares about the fans. When’s the last time a player apologized to the fans for letting them down?

    At least he gives a crap. I appreciate that.

  251. Oakglen Says:

    Hi Everyone :shock:

    My friend told me the jags and Raiders game was the Toilet Bowl game of the week. I got in his face and said:

    GGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    RRAAIIIIIDDDEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  252. TerrapinRaider Says:

    49rs are not a ZBS based team from what I can tell. It looks like power O.

  253. DJ Johnny Says:

    Wow. This breathtaking performance of accurate pinpoint passing and superior athleticism on the part of Wilson tonight is all the evidence I need that he is indeed the “wave of the future”.

  254. DJ Johnny Says:

    …that being said I want him to do something and win the game.

    Do it Wilson.

  255. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    It would be such a coincidence to have DMAC make it through the season healthy but at the same time end up with less than 700 yds on the ground this season.

    That blows!

  256. AmysInCharge Says:

    I sure hope the game is blacked out sunday,..oh by the way, Niners bout to be 5-2. Blackouts and Niners on top, thats how things are supposed to be. Word.

  257. DJ Johnny Says:

    TWO fg’s.

    WOW!

    Breathtaking.

  258. AmysInCharge Says:

    The Niners will clinch west by Thanksgiving,..the Raiders mathematically eliminated by Halloween. ;)

  259. TerrapinRaider Says:

    For me, whats worse about this team is they’re starting to look like every other team. I always liked the fact that the Raiders were somehow different. Maybe its just Knapp and his boring offense.

  260. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Bob, why aren’t you at the game?

  261. AmysInCharge Says:

    The game wont be seen locally sunday,..and still that old fool kell, the master of the mop, the boss with the broom, lives by the coliseum, wont see it…but yes, he will be found here in this blog during the game.

  262. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    For me, whats worse about this team is they’re starting to look like every other team. I always liked the fact that the Raiders were somehow different. Maybe its just Knapp and his boring offense.
    —–
    The Raiders were different alright. They were worse than every other team.

  263. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    49ers might as well be 1-4, because neither the Whiners or Raiders will make it to the Super Bowl this year.

    End result=Failed year

  264. AmysInCharge Says:

    Cant do thursday night games ese,…Im in Tahoe,..considered going but no thanks to that bay area mess on a weeknight,..those fools live on top of each other out there breathing horrible air all day,..its an open sewer. yuk

  265. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Knapp’s offense is more exciting than the 49ers or Seahawks.

  266. AmysInCharge Says:

    Youre calling the Niners the Whiners?…they are in first place vato, 5-2,..the Raiders are dead last in NFL power rankings,..youre right about the Raiders though, they wont sniff a superbowl again in your lifetime.

  267. AmysInCharge Says:

    Albert,..Raiders are 1-4,..Niners are 5-2,…going to win the west going away,..sad for you what you think is exciting. :(

  268. DJ Johnny Says:

    I know, I know.

    You can’t blame Wilson when he’s playing against a stout defense like San Fran.

    I guess playing against Pittsburgh and the Ravens twice a year in their prime doesn’t qualify as a “stout” defense for Palmer.

  269. AmysInCharge Says:

    The great teams win ugly games,…I can assure you the fans at the stick will leave that place thrilled, because they won,…the Niners slogan should be,..Just win, baby. It fits them. :)

  270. AmysInCharge Says:

    I bet Wilson never quits on his team,…takes his ball and goes home,..hides in his bedroom until some fool talks him back into football after he quit on his team,..oh and team went to playoffs with a rookie,…LMAO.

  271. AmysInCharge Says:

    Gosh,…dont you guys hate it when someone comes in here and sets you all strait?…sorry. :(

  272. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Harbaugh is on the take. 49ers favored by 8. He declines that safety and they win by 7.

  273. Chris in NY Says:

    Harbaugh just f’d me. Had SF -7. Still a push, but WTF? Lot of shenanigans there if you’re one of those conspiracy theorists. Don’t believe in it myself, but people must be pulling their hair out in Vegas right now.

  274. Try Some Reality Says:

    Looks like Mistic’s “wave of the future” has a 38.7 QB rating tonight. Wow. Taking the league by storm.

  275. mcfadden20. Says:

    So this is what a QB of the future looks like?? Wave of the future should I say ???who was worse against Niners? Campbell or Wilson

  276. AmysInCharge Says:

    Harbaugh is on the take,..omg,..there sure are some losers here,..Albert is the new biggest dork in this blog,..oh wait,..theres old man kell,…nevermind.

  277. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Niners run power blocking like the Raiders did last year. THeir line men get up field and pulls with Oline men. DMAC would be unstoppable in that scheme. Kinda like he was first the first 6 weeks last year.

    btw Raiders Took RO MCclain 7th overall. Wish we had that aldon smith who was the 7th overall pick. or even Bruce Irvin.

    Does anyone know if the Raiders were ever interested in drafting Jason PIerre Paul? Raiders always pick the wrong guy!!!

  278. AmysInCharge Says:

    Niners 5-2,…Raiders 1-4,…that says it all,..goodnight! ;)

  279. mcfadden20. Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
    Looks like Mistic’s “wave of the future” has a 38.7 QB rating tonight. Wow. Taking the league by storm.

    —-

    Hahahhahaha … Had they won with that QB rating .. You know Mistic would have been like he won the game for them lol

  280. J Hill Says:

    I think the argument is if guys like Smith can start in the NFL, then certainly guys like Wilson can.

    Plenty of Smith’s in the NFL that can be replaced with the new wave of guys.

  281. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    hopefully Reggie can change that .. and start being smart with our number 1 picks.

    No more wasting them on past their prime guys SEYMOUR PALMER especially when we are more then two players away from a deep playoff push / Superbowl run

  282. Chris in NY Says:

    Seahags would be great with any kind of passing attack. Lynch is a beast and they have the best pass defense in the league (pass rush + secondary combo) for my money.

    But it’s a passing league and you’ve got to put up points. Wilson is not very good right now — he’s a short rookie, what do you expect — and I’m not sure the WRs offer much to work with.

  283. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    Niners 5-2,…Raiders 1-4,…that says it all,..goodnight!

    —-
    Both of the teams would be watching the Super Bowl at home …good night Sully

  284. J Hill Says:

    The difference between the 9rs Oline and ours is a few 1st rd picks.

    No comparison.

  285. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Why dont Seachickens use that high priced FA flynn?? they pay all that money to him and not start him?

    dont get that

  286. KoolKell Says:

    DeAngelo Hall is having a good year. #3 this year so far.

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&statisticPositionCategory=DEFENSIVE_BACK&season=2012&seasonType=REG&experience=null&tabSeq=1&qualified=true&Submit=Go

  287. AmysInCharge Says:

    Lol mcfragile,…when MR pops in here tell him you think Im him,..he will get a kick out of it. Mcloser, try not guessing whos who in here, youre not good at it. :)

  288. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Dear Amy,

    I only associate the name Whiners to you because I don’t see other confused 9er fans (other than Sullivan44) come on a Raider blog to cry/criticize our franchise. Seems like you pay plenty of attention to us? Why? We suck!

    Do you attend both games or what? I see you’re friends with some of the posters on here. Just sayin’, pinche fresita!

  289. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    The difference between the 9rs Oline and ours is a few 1st rd picks.

    No comparison.

    —————-

    may be so.. but the numbers dont lie from last season when DMAC was healthy. All we are missing is Satele.. and Barnes (who is injured) cant be that big of difference. WEll NAP / Scheme

  290. mcfadden20. Says:

    Chris In NY Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    Seahags would be great with any kind of passing attack. Lynch is a beast and they have the best pass defense in the league (pass rush + secondary combo) for my money.

    But it’s a passing league and you’ve got to put up points. Wilson is not very good right now — he’s a short rookie, what do you expect — and I’m not sure the WRs offer much to work with.

    —-
    Yeah there D is really good man plus they never lose at home ..no matter who’s their QB…this is the Wilson they can get accustomed to seeing pretty much

  291. Chris in NY Says:

    After watching the QB play in this one — a checkdown extravaganza — I hope the few of you who don’t appreciate Carson Palmer will start to. Palmer is easily playing at a top-10 level this year.

  292. AmysInCharge Says:

    Hi old fool kell,…my favorite janitor,…how ya doin old fool?…how many listings?…I wont ask when you closed your last one,..thats too sad,…not bad for a guy with a mop and a broom pretending to be a realtor. ;)

  293. fangsraiders Says:

    “russell wilson Wave of the Future” = 8 of 22 for 106 = QB rating = 34 LMFAO!!! = monkey can’t play QB!

  294. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    Lol mcfragile,…when MR pops in here tell him you think Im him,..he will get a kick out of it. Mcloser, try not guessing whos who in here, youre not good at it.

    ——

    Sure ..sure …like I totally expected you to come through and admit you’re who we all think you’re …have a good night sully

  295. AmysInCharge Says:

    Yo Miami dude,..I am flattered you show much interest with me,..maybe some other time,.ok?…and thanks again.

  296. fangsraiders Says:

    WHITE QB = WINNER

  297. Raiders for life Says:

    Back to the Palmer trade…
    The Reg didn’t make it, and how to you get out of it?
    If you’re Reggie M. how do you re-coup the trade? You can’t.
    Could have rolled last season with Boller and TP. or picked up Orton.
    This season the Raiders could have Lienert starting.
    So for you that say CP is a washed up has been…you can blame the former HC.

  298. AmysInCharge Says:

    Thats strike two McLoser,..try harder babe, think now boy think,..only get one more strike,…

  299. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I appreciate palmer ..but for what? a 1-4 record? (ya its not his fault) but that trade.. was never for it at all. Lets say we go 6-10 this year and he is never brought back. All that for what?

  300. mcfadden20. Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    Dear Amy,

    I only associate the name Whiners to you because I don’t see other confused 9er fans (other than Sullivan44) come on a Raider blog to cry/criticize our franchise. Seems like you pay plenty of attention to us? Why? We suck!

    Do you attend both games or what? I see you’re friends with some of the posters on here. Just sayin’, pinche fresita!

    —-
    Exactly lol he’s going to stay here for a while just like sum1 else who shall not be named

  301. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Clearly Al though Pryor was the future. He also was talking contract extension with JC.. during week 4 of last year. never happened though because everything that went on.

  302. AmysInCharge Says:

    Aaaaahhhhhhh,…little mcfemaledog is all upset again,…. ;(

  303. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Thats strike two McLoser,..try harder babe, think now boy think,..only get one more strike,…

    We all know who you’re ,there is a reason you keep defending sully..why would a fan if another team care what

  304. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    i dont like saying this.. but NINERS are the kind of team that would have benefited from a PALMER trade. Not the Raiders. Way far off.

    I remember sports talk said that would be a good fit for when harbaugh took over.

  305. boss01 Says:

    Clear as daylight #55 will be out of the league by this time next year, book it.

  306. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Thats strike two McLoser,..try harder babe, think now boy think,..only get one more strike,…

    We all know who you’re ,there is a reason you keep defending sully..why would a fan if another team care what people of this blog think he is..you give it away so easily sully ..you’re just not that good with this ..but keep convincing yourself that you’re smarter than everyone else lmao

  307. Raider8 Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    Harbaugh is on the take,..omg,..there sure are some losers here,..Albert is the new biggest dork in this blog,..oh wait,..theres old man kell,…nevermind.
    *****************************
    You are the biggest azzhole on this blog. Pure dikhead.
    You are way ahead of them on the azzwipe scale.
    Congratualtions for being the biggest jerk on the blog.

    You make Sullivan44 look like a cool dude compared to you.

    Just shhot yourself and do the world a favor. The world is a worst place cuz azzwipes like you exist in it.

  308. J Hill Says:

    All we are missing is Satele.. and Barnes

    ————————————————————-

    And Carlisle is a year older.

    THREE differences from last year alone.

    We need a starting OT and OG regardless of scheme, imo.

  309. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    carlise would have been fine in the power blocking scheme. Obviously he can still play

  310. AmysInCharge Says:

    Raider8,…has it come to that?…your team is sooooo bad, makes your life soooo bad, …that you want others to shoot themselves,..you need to stop watching sports bud. Get some therapy. is 1-4 that bad?…you will soon be 1-5, then 1-6,..etc.,…stop watching now bro. Good luck.

  311. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    Aaaaahhhhhhh,…little mcfemaledog is all upset again,…. ;(

    R u mad sully?? Enjoy this little run.. Cuz this wont last very long … Both teams would be watching Super Bowl from their couches

  312. da trinity Says:

    @ Mistic
    Christian Ponder vs 49ers
    21/35 for 198 yds, TD:2 Int:0 plus WIN

    Russell Wilson Vs 49ers
    9/23 for 122 yds TD:0 Int:1 plus LOSS

    Clearly Ponder>Wilson.

  313. J Hill Says:

    Obviously he can still play

    ————————————————————-

    How is it obvious?

    The guy is in what, year 16?

    No chance the guy just needs to be upgraded?

  314. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    Raider8,…has it come to that?…your team is sooooo bad, makes your life soooo bad, …that you want others to shoot themselves,..you need to stop watching sports bud. Get some therapy. is 1-4 that bad?…you will soon be 1-5, then 1-6,..etc.,…stop watching now bro. Good luck.


    You are a sad loser .. If you claim you’re a Niners fan ..you should be celebrating .. Yet you show your true pathetic colors … I feel sorry for you.. Get some therapy loser .. And don’t bother replying

  315. AmysInCharge Says:

    Only you wish mcloser,..you will forget the raiders from this point on, and only focus on the Niners,..did they lose?…will they please lose?…you wont have to sweat the Raiders, you already know what they are going to do. :(

  316. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I mean, your extreme and retarded rants are hard to miss, vato. Plus I’ve been on this blog now, for more than a couple of years.

    Last time I address you, no need to thank me.

    Oralé!

    :)

  317. AmysInCharge Says:

    Niners 5-2…Raiders 1-4. ;)

  318. da trinity Says:

    If any of you are on this blog when mistic is on, please copy and paste comment 312, Thank You.

  319. mcfadden20. Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    @ Mistic
    Christian Ponder vs 49ers
    21/35 for 198 yds, TD:2 Int:0 plus WIN

    Russell Wilson Vs 49ers
    9/23 for 122 yds TD:0 Int:1 plus LOSS

    Clearly Ponder>Wilson.


    You can bet Mistic is in here with some of his other screen names bashing Palmer but he won’t come with his original name to defend Wilson lmao

  320. Raider O Says:

    J Hill Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
    All we are missing is Satele.. and Barnes

    ————————————————————-

    And Carlisle is a year older.

    THREE differences from last year alone.

    We need a starting OT and OG regardless of scheme, imo.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    OG!
    The 26 YO rookie was a bad pick IMO.

  321. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    because*

  322. da trinity Says:

    49ers…. F@gs
    Raiders… Straight G’z

  323. Raiders for life Says:

    299.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    I appreciate palmer ..but for what? a 1-4 record? (ya its not his fault) but that trade.. was never for it at all. Lets say we go 6-10 this year and he is never brought back. All that for what?

    #########################

    Well, again. Reggie didn’t make the trade and how does he get out of the contract? No other team would pick up CP for that price. If so, who do you pick up as your #1 QB? Orton, Kolb, Lienart or keep Soup? TPryor is obviously not a choice at this point in his career.
    (wish he was though)

  324. AmysInCharge Says:

    Lol,..the best part of the Niner win is some losers in here lost money on them,…bet on the Niners, the Niners won but you losers lost!!!…thrilled they didnt cover. Awesome. 5-2 just the same. ;)

  325. mcfadden20. Says:

    There are some pathetic people in here .. Starting with Sully and his minions and Mistic and his other minions

  326. RaidersOne Says:

    Who would ever think the Seahawks could be beat the 49′ers? Dream on. The Seahawks are a weak team and Carroll still has a long way to go.

    One might argue Seahawks beat the Patriots and so should have beat the 49′ers, but that is because Brady is a ladyboy. That trash/whore/skank from Rio he is hooked up with cut off his nuts.

    Brady, no matter his stellar stats, will never again win a championship.

  327. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    and its the young guys that continue to fck up and hold.. like Veldhere n wiz.. or false start like barnes when he was playing

  328. mcfadden20. Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    49ers…. F@gs
    Raiders… Straight G’z

    No wonder their fans act like fags

  329. AmysInCharge Says:

    I agree with DaTrinity,..Raiders are strait gays. nice work ese.

  330. fangsraiders Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    @ Mistic
    Christian Ponder vs 49ers
    21/35 for 198 yds, TD:2 Int:0 plus WIN

    Russell Wilson Vs 49ers
    9/23 for 122 yds TD:0 Int:1 plus LOSS ====== SUPERIOR WHITE = WINNER…..INFERIOR MONKEY = LOSER …..like always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  331. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    man all i want is the Raiders to win a dayumm game.. and win 2 in a row.

    All this talent is not being used right. 8-8 to 4-12 if Raiders are lucky. But they need to start winning games.

    and please dont let it come down to a last second field goal again on sun

  332. mcfadden20. Says:

    Look at this pathetic Whiners trolls trying to start whiner talk in here even after their team won ..just goes to prove that how much they can’t get the Raiders out of the heads …

  333. RaidersOne Says:

    Plus Russel Wilson is a dwarf among men. Opposition, sooner or later, will break the little guy down.

    Just like they have broken down Cam and will break down RGIII.

  334. da trinity Says:

    Its All about BROWN PRIDE,
    Viva Mark Sanchez

  335. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    RaidersAllDay,

    They’ll win the next two and you can come back in here and celebrate with the others. You’ll see!

  336. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raiders better than all the teams .. Only 6 teams have better record against the Raiders ..2 of them late 1990s expansion teams … Funny how Niners still lose head to head after being us like 4 times in our dark times … hhahhahahahahha

  337. da trinity Says:

    @RaidersOne
    How dare you speak about the Great Russell Wilson like that. Off with your HEAD!!! LOL

  338. Raiders for life Says:

    The 26 YO rookie was a bad pick IMO

    ####################

    I was thinking that maturity would help get him on the field.
    WRONG.
    If Bergstrom can’t even beat Parson’s for a back up RG then something is wrong. Bruce Campbell or Barksdale wrong.

  339. RaidersOne Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Look at this pathetic Whiners trolls trying to start whiner talk in here even after their team won ..just goes to prove that how much they can’t get the Raiders out of the heads …
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    you hung your s/n on a loser, worse than average back, and now you are complaining about Whiner trolls.

    you have, like many worshipers here, mistaken stupidity for loyalty.

    change your s/n to McStupidy; it’s a better description for you, since you will waste all your precious time blogging about the crummy Raiders.

  340. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    I agree with DaTrinity,..Raiders are strait gays. nice work ese.


    Aren’t you that ricochet character as well

  341. RaidersOne Says:

    da trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    @RaidersOne
    How dare you speak about the Great Russell Wilson like that. Off with your HEAD!!! LOL
    ***************************

    LoL

  342. da trinity Says:

    Niner fans are lame, have to come to our cool site to troll. SMH

  343. mcfadden20. Says:

    RaidersOne Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Look at this pathetic Whiners trolls trying to start whiner talk in here even after their team won ..just goes to prove that how much they can’t get the Raiders out of the heads …
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    you hung your s/n on a loser, worse than average back, and now you are complaining about Whiner trolls.

    you have, like many worshipers here, mistaken stupidity for loyalty.

    change your s/n to McStupidy; it’s a better description for you, since you will waste all your precious time blogging about the crummy Raiders.

    —-
    Hey I didn’t even mention your name .. Just goes to show there are def some whiners trolls in here and they’re in full force

  344. fangsraiders Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Its All about BROWN PRIDE = TURD WORSHIP …wetback beaner = thanks for destroying california you scum

  345. eastoaklandraider Says:

    JLofty Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    I am laughing that EOR actually seems to believe that the 2011 Raiders were a 12-4 team. That is freakin funny. Even the most Rainbow stew eatin, kool-aid drinking fans i know don’t/didn’t believe that.
    We were HIGHLY flawed last year. Granted not as bad as many times in the past decade or so but not very good either.
    Offense couldn’t score 2nd half points, defense couldn’t prevent a first down in most any second half.
    Exactly how we’re we getting to 12-4 anyway?
    ————–

    its really pretty simple J all the D had to do was show up in the Buff game, DEN game, Lion game, and the SD finale game. we scored enough to win all 4 games but the Chuck B D let us Down in all 4. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

  346. AmysInCharge Says:

    Oh no,..he strikes out on first attempt at guessing,..now mcdummy now has me as Ric,..wow,…you really do like embarrassing yourself dont you?…lol,..perfect fit, a Raider fan… :)

  347. da trinity Says:

    @344
    URwelcome ESA

  348. KoolKell Says:

    The B Sockpuppet Show.

  349. RaidersOne Says:

    mcfadden20

    Just goes to show there are def some whiners trolls in here and they’re in full force
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    and so ?

  350. mcfadden20. Says:

    All you have to do is talk a little bad about the whiners and you will see sully and his minions come to the rescue hahaha they get so butt hurt.. Even if Niners win the next 10 SBs they would still be focused on the Raiders blog .. I don’t even know who these guys really root for but man just pathetic lives

  351. fangsraiders Says:

    RaidersOne Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Plus Russel Wilson is a dwarf among men. Opposition, sooner or later, will break the little guy down.

    Just like they have broken down Cam and will break down RGIII. === 3 BLIND MICE..SEE HOW THEY RUN…because they are too stupid to read a defense.

  352. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    RaidO Says:
    I could see maybe 3 to 5 more wins.
    Jags= Better win. If loss= TP time
    Chiefs= Win
    Buccaneers= Loss
    Ravens= Loss
    Saints= Loss
    Bengals= Loss- Maybe Win
    Browns= Win
    Broncos= Loss
    Chiefs= Win
    Panthers= Loss
    Chargers= Loss
    4-12, 5-11, 6-10 pick one.
    This is what you call a “wasted season”.
    =========================================================Well, it’s written down now, on paper. No need to play the games, I guess. What score did you predict for the Atlanta game, RaidO.

  353. AmysInCharge Says:

    Old fool kell,..go take your Ambien and go to bed,…you are a fat old slob, all you have is a broom and a mop. Go to bed old loser.

  354. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    Oh no,..he strikes out on first attempt at guessing,..now mcdummy now has me as Ric,..wow,…you really do like embarrassing yourself dont you?…lol,..perfect fit, a Raider fan…

    You know a lot about people in here for being a fan of some other team..so how long you been trolling in here for now??

  355. da trinity Says:

    @AmyInCharge
    Isnt there a G@y Club you should be attending?

  356. AmysInCharge Says:

    The Raiders, 1-4 in the weakest division in the NFL. Holy cow.

  357. mcfadden20. Says:

    Talking about Niners 5-2 record and how bad Raiders will do this year..good try sully and minions ..

  358. da trinity Says:

    RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  359. AmysInCharge Says:

    DaLoser,..you can type gay, no need for symbols,…try harder loser,…did you get through high school?…GED?…no way you went to college. It shows.

  360. da trinity Says:

    Amy, UR whiners division has been trash for years, whats ur point?

  361. mcfadden20. Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    The Raiders, 1-4 in the weakest division in the NFL. Holy cow.


    We would be celebrating if our team was 5-2 ..what happened your mom won’t let little sunshine go out and celebrate with his gay buddies??

  362. AmysInCharge Says:

    McIdiot,..in case you forgot,..5-2…1-4.

  363. AmysInCharge Says:

    DaStupid,..my point?…thanks for proving that you are uneducated,..as if I didnt know. LMAO

  364. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    No need to offend everyone with racist remarks, Fang.

    C’mon now.

  365. da trinity Says:

    No College For ME,waste of time. Im a Delivery Driver for a well “known” company, i probably make more then you will ever earn with a degree chump

  366. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    The Niners will clinch west by Thanksgiving,..the Raiders mathematically eliminated by Halloween.////////////Don’t think that’s mathematically possible. About the RAIDERS, that is. Couldn’t care less about that other team.

  367. mcfadden20. Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    Amy, UR whiners division has been trash for years, whats ur point?

    —-
    Exactly …Whiners would have never made it out of AfC west those years they won 5 sbs..how pathetic they were ..took them till the mid 80s to win their first in that pathetic division …and it took a coach recommended by A Davis to take them there lmao

  368. Raiders for life Says:

    I would crack up if AmysInCharge is a hot chick from the bay. Doubtful though, she talks to much like a fat chick from San Jose.

  369. eastoaklandraider Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    ———————
    shouldnt you be somewhere sucking Briens nuts the greatest east bay fan ever lol.

  370. AmysInCharge Says:

    Uh oh,..McAngry is now pulling out mom jabs,..hes getting desperate…might want to ease up some dude,..this isnt going well for you.

  371. da trinity Says:

    AmyinCharge, come to a Raider game, Will give you a Blanket party, trust me its fun.

  372. mcfadden20. Says:

    I think Sully ran out of his meds

  373. AmysInCharge Says:

    Ahhh ,..my work here is done,..these poor fools are just tooooo easy,…but when your team is pathetic, the laugh of the league, 1-4,..bout to lose to the Jags,..well its just too easy,…anyway like I said, thanks for making things easy for me tonight,..goodnight now,..cya. Oh and in case you forgot,.. 5-2….1-4 ;)

  374. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Raiders For Life Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    I would crack up if AmysInCharge is a hot chick from the bay. Doubtful though, she talks to much like a fat chick from San Jose.
    ———————-
    amyincharge is a man and a gay one he’s in love with brien.

  375. da trinity Says:

    @368
    More like a Fat chick from victorville. lol

  376. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s okay sully …I understand your pain

  377. da trinity Says:

    good, go head and go give head

  378. da trinity Says:

    377 @ AmyHoe

  379. mcfadden20. Says:

    Good night sully hope you feel better in the morning

  380. mcfadden20. Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
    377 @ AmyHoe

    —-
    Silly sully

  381. Raiders for life Says:

    375.da trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    @368
    More like a Fat chick from victorville. lol

    ########################

    Easy now, I dated a girl from Apple Valley about 20 years ago!!!!! lol

  382. mcfadden20. Says:

    That was so easy ..trolls disappeared so fast ..

  383. da trinity Says:

    FYI
    For my online Career Mode I use Terrell Pryor. 24 touchdowns with 1 Int.

  384. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    KoolKell Says: DeAngelo Hall is having a good year. #3 this year so far.==============Yep, Al Davis had an eye for talent. No doubt about it.

  385. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    It’s unfortunate that the computer is used as a platform for unintelligent ppl, who end up networking/bonding with other idiots, who then encourage more idiots to preach the word of the dumb.

  386. Raider8 Says:

    amy’sincharge says she was a season ticket holder so he obviously was a fan…but just like the spineless turd she is she switches allegiance to the sixtyniners cuz they are winning.

    no backbone to just switch teams like that acting like he’s cooler than everybody else cuz he’s spineless and disloyal enuff to switch teams.

    i guess if i go and get a steeler jersey that would make me cooler than her. i guess anyone could do that huh? but guess what, i wouldn’t do that cuz i’m not a loser frontrunning bandwagon “fan” like she is.

  387. da trinity Says:

    @382
    They tend to do that when you smack them around.

  388. mcfadden20. Says:

    Wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see Mistic again the rest of the week..35% comp percentage …120 yards hahahaha @wave of the future

  389. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider8 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    amy’sincharge says she was a season ticket holder so he obviously was a fan…but just like the spineless turd she is she switches allegiance to the sixtyniners cuz they are winning.

    no backbone to just switch teams like that acting like he’s cooler than everybody else cuz he’s spineless and disloyal enuff to switch teams.

    i guess if i go and get a steeler jersey that would make me cooler than her. i guess anyone could do that huh? but guess what, i wouldn’t do that cuz i’m not a loser frontrunning bandwagon “fan” like she is.

    —-

    It’s sully

  390. da trinity Says:

    Mistic will be on tomorrow, he’s cooking up some exuses for Wilson

  391. mcfadden20. Says:

    I’m out this was fun …I’ll be back again to kick the trolls to the curb

  392. Raider8 Says:

    “go root for a winner like me”. sorry, not everybody is a pathetic front runner like amyb1tch is.

  393. mcfadden20. Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    Mistic will be on tomorrow, he’s cooking up some exuses for Wilson

    —-

    Funny thing is if Seattle had won with those same stats from Wilson ..he would have been here to claim Wilson the MVP of the game hahahha @wave of the future

  394. da trinity Says:

    good night fellas, Glad to be apart of the Troll beat down. lol. Dont forget to post Wilson stats for Mistic when you see him on.

  395. mcfadden20. Says:

    These trolls are so easy

  396. oldschoolraider Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    One things for sure and will never change

    The cowboy with one testicle from Texas rode herd on euro bicylers and dope testers for almost a decade.

    Noone could catch him so they spent tens of millions of dollars to ruin his name

    Nice going LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

    USA!!!!!USA!!!!!!
    ******************************************************

    They’re all bike fags. If you wear tights, it’s not a sport.

  397. da trinity Says:

    @393
    Hell ya, Dam the dudes dumb. lol.

  398. Raiders for life Says:

    Have a good night Nation.
    Hope to get a huge win this Sunday.

    RAIDERS

  399. mcfadden20. Says:

    Da Trinity Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
    good night fellas, Glad to be apart of the Troll beat down. lol. Dont forget to post Wilson stats for Mistic when you see him on.

    —-
    He will wait for the fire to cool down before showing up here but he will def be here with another screen name bashing Palmer

  400. mcfadden20. Says:

    RAIDERS WIN 5 in a row

  401. Oakglen Says:

    The Raiders asked for, and received, a one-day extension from the league so that they could try and sell enough tickets to avoid a blackout on local TV.
    The Raiders sold out all eight of their regular-season home games last season and their first two this season. Typically, when a team asks for an extension, it winds up selling enough tickets to satisfy the requirement for a game to be televised locally.

    *************************************************
    *************************************************
    *************************************************
    *************************************************

    REALLY??????????????????????? :P

    Toilet Bowl games DO NOT SELL OUT. Smells to much like ass..

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    RAAAAAAIDDDDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSS!!!!!

  402. mcfadden20. Says:

    Good night y’all ..have a safe weekend

  403. Oakglen Says:

    Hi Everybody :P

    This IS NOT A MUST WIN GAME…

    This is a game the RAIDERS need to MAKE A STATEMENT

    And THROTTLE the jags.

    Raiders need to mop the field with their balls.

    RAIDERS need to win this game by %) points.

    A good ol’fashion CORN BOINKING is in order.

    NO CLOSE GAME.

    Must be a blow out.

    Raiders need to show the have some hoy hoy.

    OAK “GLEN” RAIDERS 61
    Nutless Jags 3

  404. DJ Johnny Says:

    McClain’s comment that he “played pretty darned good” is strikingly similar to another loser from Alabama..Jamarcus “The Bust” Russell.

    Remember when JaDoofus said how good he was playing when everyone in the world was saying how horribly awful he was?

    I don’t know who’s worse. Russell just seems worse cuz he was a QB and more noticed and his failures more pronounced.

    Two peas in a pod these two.

  405. Raider Fan Says:

    Man all Black Qb’s suck ! White power white power white power !

  406. Raider Fan Says:

    Glad we have a Great White Elite QB for the next 10 years in Palmer ! WHITE POWER to all and to all a GOOD NIGHT !

  407. Raider Fan 1 Says:

    If the Raiders lose to the Jags, they need to be demoted to either the CFL or the European Football League and be replaced by #1 Alabama or #2 Oregon.

    Or the entire coaching staff needs to be fired for incompetence. They need to be replaced by coaches who have been around the block. Never in my wildest dreams did I think our defense could be worse than what we had last year. Nor did I think our offense could be turned over to a OC that resembles last years DC.

    Unbelievable.

  408. Raider Fan 1 Says:

    Raider Fan 1 is not Raider Fan (the white apologist)

  409. Raider Fan 1 Says:

    Raider Fan Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
    Glad we have a Great White Elite QB for the next 10 years in Palmer ! WHITE POWER to all and to all a GOOD NIGHT !
    ………….

    We do not have a Great White Elite QB. Palmer is a could be decent qb but is being mis managed by a cast of numbskulls.

  410. 405Raiders Says:

    Raider Fan 1 Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
    If the Raiders lose to the Jags, they need to be demoted to either the CFL or the European Football League and be replaced by #1 Alabama or #2 Oregon.

    Or the entire coaching staff needs to be fired for incompetence. They need to be replaced by coaches who have been around the block. Never in my wildest dreams did I think our defense could be worse than what we had last year. Nor did I think our offense could be turned over to a OC that resembles last years DC.

    Unbelievable.

    ==================================

    If the Raiders lose to Jacksonville, I will not watch any football again until they win a game and I can watch it on nfl replay.

  411. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Did anyone hear Manti Te’o interview on Jim Rome show. IF you did.. you would know this is the kinda implact Player that has Reggie’s name all over.

    A true defensive leader and trust me… Raider fans would be estatic to get a guy like that.

    btw hear is a few of his writings from his twitter.

    Always looking to get better every single day! There are always improvements that need to be made! ”

    What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes! pic.twitter.com/CpimBk7n ”

    No matter what life throws at you all you gotta do is SWING! ”

    Working to be great!! ”

    This guy is a True MLB .. Hawaiin. Whatever team he ends up on next year is gonna get a good one. Respect!

  412. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    http://youtu.be/j_P1rcOAwEA

    btw here is a recent ESPN segement on Manti Te’o

  413. beach Says:

    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    The Niners will clinch west by Thanksgiving,..the Raiders mathematically eliminated by Halloween.
    ——————————————
    Hey loudmouth, I’ve got 10 grand that says your team does not get to the NFC Championship Game. Your QB is a loser! Now shut up you POS!

  414. fangsraiders Says:

    http://www.stormfront.org = join the white brotherhood

  415. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    all i hear is palmer taking blame but nothing from the coaches…more like…its execution, the players are not executing…what a coward DA is….

  416. beach Says:

    Buy a ticket if you don’t have one yet! Just win, baby!

  417. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Off topic-

    Would love to see the same kind of grey color scheme the Oregon Ducks sport on their helmets, for my Raiders.

  418. RaidersOne Says:

    beach Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    AmysInCharge Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    The Niners will clinch west by Thanksgiving,..the Raiders mathematically eliminated by Halloween.
    ——————————————
    Hey loudmouth, I’ve got 10 grand that says your team does not get to the NFC Championship Game. Your QB is a loser! Now shut up you POS!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Doubt you would know 10 grand if you held it in your hand. You better watch it or I may take you up on the deal.

    We can put it in an escrow account with instructions that if the 49′ers get into the NFC Championships, I take the full 20.

    Take my suggestion and back off the sauce baby.

  419. beechams gay lover Says:

    has beechy dawg been here? antoine said beechys mom got popped for soliciting a LA cop again and beechy had to bail her out. he is pretty pissed off i bet

  420. Chris in NY Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    I appreciate palmer ..but for what? a 1-4 record? (ya its not his fault) but that trade.. was never for it at all. Lets say we go 6-10 this year and he is never brought back. All that for what?

    ————————

    A couple of thinngs about this:

    1) We were 4-2 when the trade was made and desperately trying to save the season and get back into the playoffs for the first time in about a decade. And we only missed out on a tiebreaker. Palmer played more than well enough to win the Detroit and final SD game. With even an average to bad defense in those games we finish 10-6.

    2) If Hue were here we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in now. Tough to say what our record would be exactly, but we would surely be in a better position, playing better and more hopeful about a postseason berth this year as well. The Palmer trade made a lot of sense and was a good thing for us. Pulling the plug on Hue to reboot with yet another head coach was the idiotic move.

    3) Don’t be fooled by media hype. Draft picks are overrated. Look back through any draft. You’ll find maybe 5 picks in the first round who are bigtime difference makers (Patrick Willis types). Another 10-15 who are solid players, but have nowhere near the impact of a really good starting QB (Huff, DHB). And 10-15 outright scrubs. First round picks are not usually worth their weight in gold. They can be, but the odds are you’re getting just a guy (a JAG) or a bum.

  421. Kirk Says:

    The main reason the Raiders are losing is poor coaching…

    Knapp’s pathetic play calling, ZBS ect.

    Allen’s failure to have a backup long snapper.

    Tarver switching to the 3 man rush with 40 seconds left.

    The failure to use a 6′3″ 230 lb back that runs a 4.4 forty…Terelle Pryor.

    I hate to say it, but if Hue was coaching this team, we would have a winning record.

  422. RaidersOne Says:

    Untrue. Hue had 5 games left last season and only had to win one to make it into the playoffs. He couldn’t get it done. Also, he would never use TP after negotitating an outlandish contract for CP that broke the bank of the Raiders and deleted a 1st and 2nd round draft pick.

    Hue’s asinine overreaching at his final presser is what did him in.

  423. RaidersOne Says:

    beechams gay lover Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
    has beechy dawg been here? antoine said beechys mom got popped for soliciting a LA cop again and beechy had to bail her out. he is pretty pissed off i bet
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Gay Lover,

    I haven’t seen Beeechy all night. I thought Beeechy’s Mom was real skanky??? How then could she be in demand for turning tricks?

  424. RaidersOne Says:

    Gay Lover,

    Maybe since he was bailing her out, he didn’t come into the blog tonight?

  425. raidertalk Says:

    Too bad we don’t have Hue Jackson as our coach; see how he’s leading the Cinncinatti Bengals to undefeated victory (the ball-boys at least)

  426. raidertalk Says:

    Hue Jacko was not wanted anywhere in the NFL near an offense let alone head coach. The pedicured bowlingball head bulchitter couldn’t get ANY job but for a 80 plus yearold on the down side of life looking for yet another “yes-man”

    Hue Jackson wipe the balls of the Bengals for the practice of the Natti DBs.

  427. raidertalk Says:

    If hue were here BS…..
    Number one Hue did not do chit to shore up this defense and we would NOT have two defensive minded coaches on staff now who can atleast make necessary adjustments like moving in Burris for the nickel packages. How long did Thomas Howard LANGUISh on the bench when he clearly had the speed to play nickel-D linbacker, why because he was on HUGE ASS Jacksins chit list.
    THe problem with HUE is that he had no concept whatsoever about defense.

  428. raidertalk Says:

    Late Night crew…..

  429. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I read this on Bleacher Report and it breaks down QB stats, every year under Knapp.

    2001 Jeff Garcia 3538 yards 32 TDs 12 INTs 62.7 cmp% 94.6 rating
    2002 Jeff Garcia 3344 yards 21 TDs 10 INTs 62.1 cmp% 85.6 rating
    2003 Jeff Garcia 2704 yards 18 TDs 13 INTs 57.4 comp% 80.1 rating

    It should be noted that Garcia had the best season of his career in 2000 while Knapp was still the QB coach, once Knapp became OC in SF Garcia steadily regressed every single year in Knapps offense

    Mike Vick 2004 2312 yards 14 TDs 12 INTs 56.4 cmp% 78.1 rating
    Mike Vick 2005 2412 yards 15 TD 13 INT 55.3cmp% 73.1 rating
    Mike Vick 2006 2474 yards 20 TD 15 INT 52.6 cmp% 75.7 rating

    Again it should be noted that Vick had his best season as a passer in Atlanta in 2002 before Knapp ever arrived and that Vick regressed under Knapp just like Garcia

    2007 was a complete mess between Josh McCown, Daunte Culepepper and 1 start from Jamarcus Russell they threw for 2631 yards

    2008 JaMarcus Russell 2423 yards 13 TD 8 INT 53.8 cmp% 77.1 rating

    2009 Matt Hassleback 3029 yards 17 TD 17 INT 60.0cmp% 75.1 rating

    2012 Palmer(projected) 4592 yards 19 TD 14 INT 62.6 cmp% 88.7 rating

    If Palmer is incapable of succeeding in Knapps offense then clearly Knapp has never even sniffed a QB that is, which suggests that maybe the QBs in Knapps offenses are not the problem.

  430. Yack Hoffe Butternuts Says:

    Dude, quit being a idiot. Look at the good teams. Look at what they’ve got in common. Good fcking coaching. John Fox scares me more than Manning. Fox is bright enough to let Manning call his game. Manning offense scheme. And he goes for the throat instead of going to the prevent limp soft defense.

    DA needs to figure out why good coaches are winning and steal a page or two from their modus operandi. Just cause you got patience and think 4-5 years down the road we’ll be a playoff team doesn’t mean we got the right coaches. Look at the OC. I bet you don’t feel smart anymore.

    If it seems that we got to beat a 1-4 team, ask yourself why. And is there a concern that we might not beat a 1-4 team? So you want to cling to his nut sack so bad, what are you gonna do when you find out he doesn’t have a sack? Or the b1tch your dating? What are you gonna do when you reach inside? It’s your crying game. Oooohhh that’s not gonna feel so good sucka.

    Can’t run to mama now. This a big boys game. If the Raiders can’t beat the Jags, then we got real issues and your crying game will be your problem. Oooooooooohh. I ain’t gonna feel sorry for your dumb ass.

    So yeah. This is a must win game. It should be a gimme game. And quit babbling on about how fine a car you drive and your house and the fancy women you date. Takin them out to fine restaurants. I don’t believe it. All I know is your date turned out to be your crying game. Now suck it up and be a man. Be a real Raider fan. We will know if we have won the game when it’s over. Right now, it’s 0-0. Lets get it on.

  431. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McClain’s base salary jumps from $970,000 this season to slightly more than $4 million in 2013. It’s doubtful that the Raiders will honor that contract if McClain still is viewed as a situational player.

    ***

    Reggie is lining up replacements

  432. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “We have to go out and try to at least stop that run. If you don’t do anything else, stop the run, let them know you can’t do this two times in a row.”

    ***

    no talk of winning, McDummy?

  433. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Allen and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp raved about the way quarterback Carson Palmer accepted blame for the Raiders loss to the Falcons.

    ***

    Why?

    it was his fault!!

  434. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Fangsraiders Says:
    October 18th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
    http://www.stormfront.org = join the white brotherhood
    ——
    Really? Hey Becker, can we get this racist loser banned?

  435. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    McClain kinda rambled on there didn’t he? I didn’t play because of my foot but all they did was run the ball…
    Happy Aloha Friday!!!

  436. edward teach Says:

    Kinda sorta quit posting here because of all the nonsense, but felt last night after reading LMN’s histrionics about Lance Armstrong and his taking me out of context on the matter, that I needed to respond. I know this is a Raiders blog, so pardon me for delving into cycling for a moment (I suppose now that the blog has largely devolved into flame wars, politics and race-baiting, no one should mind very much; if you do, please feel free to skip ahead).

    My beef with LMN was that he unequivocally stated back in 2010 that Armstrong was cheating. Fine, if that’s your opinion, but in 2010 you had nothing to back it up with, and that was my point. I don’t know how it works in Denmark, but in this country (for the most part) we have something we call the burden of proof. I stated in 2010 that there was no evidence linking Armstrong or Bruyneel to doping, and there was not. I don’t feel the need to “eat crow” as he suggests, because I never said he wasn’t cheating, just said nobody had proven it, and I’m not the type to go off and make accusations based on opinion. I prefer facts, because they tend to be more reliable.

    I would like to propose this to LMN, however; you chose to accuse an American cyclist of cheating back in 2010 based solely on rumors and associations. For the sake of balance, I would like to choose a Danish cyclist, and ask if your feelings are any different:

    Jakob Fuglsang is probably the preeminent Danish Grand Tour rider at the moment. I won’t enumerate his palmares here because it would take too much space, and you probably know about it anyway. What I will do is list his associations, and then I would like you to use the same deductive method you used with Armstrong and tell me what you come up with; He first worked with Bjarne Riis. Left CSC to go to Leopard with Kim Andersen (Riis’ top assistant DS), then worked with Bruyneel. He will leave RS Nissan Trek for Astana next year and work with Vinokourov. Now, based on what we KNOW (not suspect) about each of the aforementioned, what sort of conclusion should we draw about Fuglsang, using the same reasoning?

    Sorry for the long post, those of you that are actually here for football, but I particularly dislike being taken out of context and felt the need to respond.

    Peace.

  437. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  438. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Black beard !! welcome back brother !!!

  439. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.TEACH,GOOD READ..

  440. edward teach Says:

    Thank you, R8ER MIKE; a very good morning to the AM crew… hope everyone is doing well!

  441. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Ed, Mike, Dirt Lot!

  442. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO DOKIE WILLIAMS ???

  443. R8ER MIKE Says:

    morning Hwnrdr !!
    happy Friday !!

  444. Plunketthead Says:

    Morning all
    Teach, lmn must be somewhat ok because he gets along with lots of people here.
    However my experiance shows him to constantly do such things. Belittle others while puffing himself up.

    All the other folks here from overseas are great. England especially stands out with great Raider fans.

    Im done untill the next time he utters something of the kind.

  445. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Blackbeard…

    Not a single rider from US Postal have been clean, this isnt a courtroom, if theres smoke – a lot of smoke the possibility of fire is huge..

    I knew that all people who had worked with Bruynell was dirty, because he was dirty, but a clever and smart cheater..

    This (to me at least) has nothing to do with their passport, Dutch, Danish, American, Italian, spanish, Columbian, Kazakhs all in top 50 are doped and have been for the last 15 years… at least…

    you felt you had to defend Lance Armstrong because his american, at least all the other cheaters admitted it, Lance wont…

    but to close you eyes and keep saying there isnt a monster, doesnt make the monster to go away..

    everybody knew Lance Armstrong was doped, most just decided to ignore it, I guess you were one of them..

    to quote my self from 2 1/2 years ago:

    -”if you believe Lance has been clean all these years is like believe Tiger woods is a virgin..”-

  446. Plunketthead Says:

    Amy Says:
    Lol mcfragile,…when MR pops in here tell him you think Im him,..he will get a kick out of it. Mcloser, try not guessing whos who in here, youre not good at it.

    ——

    McFaden says
    Sure ..sure …like I totally expected you to come through and admit you’re who we all think you’re …have a good night sully

    ****************************
    You left out the most obvious, trolls within trolls

  447. hwnrdr Says:

    Watching the game last night…Seattle blew their chances in the first half with all the drops. However, it was good to hear Harbaugh tell Caroll at the end “Good game”.
    Marshawn Lynch is one tough mofo…

  448. Bob Marley Says:

    Morning…

    I created a fantasy basketball league in yahoo, 12 teams with 11 spots open, pretty standard stats, let me know if you are interested.

  449. Bob Marley Says:

    A couple of years ago back when Lynch was on his way out of Buffalo I suggested we should offer Bush for Lynch…

    Later.

  450. YoungAmerican Says:

    A good read on Phillip Wheeler here for anyone who missed it:

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/film-review-raiders-lb-philip-wheeler-is-good/

  451. YoungAmerican Says:

    PFF says Wheeler was one of the best budget signings of the offseason:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/19/free-agent-dividends/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

  452. YoungAmerican Says:

    On the NFL draft front, how do y’all feel about a 6′7 245lb DE/OLB who can not only rush the passer but cover slot WRs?

    I present Oregon’s Dion Jordan for your consideration:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JATMzVLBA0

  453. Marks hair Says:

    429. Good post..

  454. Marks hair Says:

    Jordan looked good when i watched him. Maybe sorta raw

  455. YoungAmerican Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    Jordan looked good when i watched him. Maybe sorta raw

    ==========================

    Definitely raw, and doesn’t have a “real” position in the NFL. But he has a skill set that would allow him to be put in a lot of different situations.

    Want to see him develop some strength as a pass rusher, as now he’s more of a “run and chase” sort of guy – but his two sacks last night showed off some pass rush moves I didn’t know he had.

  456. neilb Says:

    Dokie?

    Wiki just says he left the league in ‘87.

    The first Raider game I caught on the radio was against Dallas (mid 80’s?).Plunk replaced Bambi and threw a td to Dokie and won the game.

    “It’s a little low……DOKIE MAKES A GREAT CATCH!!!”

  457. neilb Says:

    I was just thinking last night at work……I wish we were playing the ravens this weekend.Might catch them out of sorts and on an emotional low.

  458. Marks hair Says:

    So howard should be suiting up this sunday. Looks like the lakers will have all hands on deck for the start of the season.

  459. SLAYER Says:

    IM MAKING THE ROADIE FROM BREMERTON SATURDAY NIGHT,..WHOS AT THE GAME FROM HERE?

  460. oakfoshow Says:

    431.RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 3:50 am
    McClain’s base salary jumps from $970,000 this season to slightly more than $4 million in 2013. It’s doubtful that the Raiders will honor that contract if McClain still is viewed as a situational player.

    ***

    Reggie is lining up replacements

    Reggie is lineing up a new job.He’s only got a few months before he is dismissed.He knows it.

  461. hwnrdr Says:

    SLAYER Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:07 am
    IM MAKING THE ROADIE FROM BREMERTON SATURDAY NIGHT,..WHOS AT THE GAME FROM HERE?

    Lot D…8AM!

  462. neilb Says:

    One of these days I’ll be in Lot D…..

  463. hwnrdr Says:

    neilb Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:26 am
    One of these days I’ll be in Lot D…..

    Hey, what’s up Neil? That would be great! How’s things on your side of teh pond!

  464. neilb Says:

    Morning Hwnrdr!A rich woman or a lottery win and I’m there!

    Things are fine – yourself? Finished work this morning and not back till Monday so I’m looking forward to the weekends sport.

  465. neilb Says:

    Monday? Make that Tuesday!

  466. Raider Riff Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    PFF says Wheeler was one of the best budget signings of the offseason:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/19/free-agent-dividends/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    —————-

    They are late to the party. I’ve been signing Wheeler’s praise since before he played a down for us.

  467. hwnrdr Says:

    neilb Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    Morning Hwnrdr!A rich woman or a lottery win and I’m there!

    Things are fine – yourself? Finished work this morning and not back till Monday so I’m looking forward to the weekends sport.

    neilb Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Monday? Make that Tuesday!

    Haha…I hear ya! Nice that you got a weekend off! Enjoy the games!

  468. edward teach Says:

    LMN,

    Maybe it’s the language barrier, or maybe you’re just clinging to your version for some other reason, but I’ll say this again and maybe this time you’ll understand it;

    I never said Armstrong or Bruyneel weren’t cheating. What I said was that it was irresponsible to make a definitive statement that they were without proof, and in May of 2010 there wasn’t any.

    It would be the same as saying that Fuglsang is a cheater right now, except that we DO have proof that his associations have consistently been with those affiliated with doping.

    I asked you to use the same deductive reasoning with Fuglsang as you did with Armstrong… did you have a response to that?

  469. neilb Says:

    You too Hwnrdr!

    Later Raider!

  470. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Teach, did you invest heavily in those yellow Live Strong bracelets or something? SMH

  471. The Big Banana Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:38 am
    YoungAmerican Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    PFF says Wheeler was one of the best budget signings of the offseason:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/19/free-agent-dividends/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    —————-

    They are late to the party. I’ve been signing Wheeler’s praise since before he played a down for us.

    ——

    Weren’t there some folks in here that didn’t think much of Wheeler? I think JaWalrus’ biggest fan was one of them. I could tell from the outset he had a motor.

  472. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Does anyone remember the Wheelers in Return to Oz?

  473. The Big Banana Says:

    Has Mistic showed up yet for Russell Wilson damage control?

  474. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    Has Mistic showed up yet for Russell Wilson damage control?
    ——
    LOL

  475. edward teach Says:

    ABP,

    Uh, no. I suspected Lance and his crew long ago. I also have some ideas about how large the scope of this thing really is, and who the major players were. Suffice to say that this is (in my view) the tip of the iceberg, but the money and structure of certain things may keep us from seeing the rest of it.

    I just have a hard time when someone takes my words and uses them in a way that I didn’t intend, and continues to do so after I’ve attempted to clarify things for them, is all.

  476. theghostronin79 Says:

    Does anyone remember the Wheelers in Return to Oz?

    ===========

    Hell yeah, they creeped me the Fu*k out when I was a kid. Uuuhhggg (Shivers)

  477. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    Does anyone remember the Wheelers in Return to Oz?

    ===========

    Hell yeah, they creeped me the Fu*k out when I was a kid. Uuuhhggg (Shivers)
    —–
    That would make a great costume to go to Raider games in. Put a Phillip Wheeler jersey on of those freaky looking things.

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120720223654/oz/images/0/08/1583824887_57504923e9.jpg

  478. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    The Big Banana Says: Has Mistic showed up yet for Russell Wilson damage control?===========His O line played poorly, he tweaked his ankle on the first play limiting his athleticism, WR’s dropping balls all over the place, and uh,let’s see, oh, the defense played too well and got off the field too fast making the offense stay on the field too long and tiring them out. Under similar circumstances, Palmer would’ve had a negative QB rating. How’s that? He can just copy and paste.

  479. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Oh, good morning, Raider Nation!

  480. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    edward teach Says: I just have a hard time when someone takes my words and uses them in a way that I didn’t intend, and continues to do so after I’ve attempted to clarify things for them, is all.============Boy, Blackbeard, are you in the wrong place. No wonder you’ve been so quiet.

  481. edward teach Says:

    lol

  482. The Big Banana Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
    The Big Banana Says: Has Mistic showed up yet for Russell Wilson damage control?===========His O line played poorly, he tweaked his ankle on the first play limiting his athleticism, WR’s dropping balls all over the place, and uh,let’s see, oh, the defense played too well and got off the field too fast making the offense stay on the field too long and tiring them out. Under similar circumstances, Palmer would’ve had a negative QB rating. How’s that? He can just copy and paste.

    ———

    Lol. Not bad.

  483. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Fellas, fellas! great to hear Slowlando is taking it for what it is and is not poisoning the locker room. Should act as a pro if he wants to stay in the league…

  484. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am
    Fellas, fellas! great to hear Slowlando is taking it for what it is and is not poisoning the locker room. Should act as a pro if he wants to stay in the league…
    ——
    Yeah, but it is also a little disconcerting that he is taking it so well. It seems like he doesn’t even care.

  485. bcz24 Says:

    Reggie is lineing up a new job.He’s only got a few months before he is dismissed.He knows it.
    *********************
    LOL… Bill Callahan might have been on to something.

  486. raiderzmaverick Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 2:20 am

    I read this on Bleacher Report and it breaks down QB stats, every year under Knapp.

    2001 Jeff Garcia 3538 yards 32 TDs 12 INTs 62.7 cmp% 94.6 rating
    2002 Jeff Garcia 3344 yards 21 TDs 10 INTs 62.1 cmp% 85.6 rating
    2003 Jeff Garcia 2704 yards 18 TDs 13 INTs 57.4 comp% 80.1 rating

    It should be noted that Garcia had the best season of his career in 2000 while Knapp was still the QB coach, once Knapp became OC in SF Garcia steadily regressed every single year in Knapps offense

    Mike Vick 2004 2312 yards 14 TDs 12 INTs 56.4 cmp% 78.1 rating
    Mike Vick 2005 2412 yards 15 TD 13 INT 55.3cmp% 73.1 rating
    Mike Vick 2006 2474 yards 20 TD 15 INT 52.6 cmp% 75.7 rating

    Again it should be noted that Vick had his best season as a passer in Atlanta in 2002 before Knapp ever arrived and that Vick regressed under Knapp just like Garcia

    2007 was a complete mess between Josh McCown, Daunte Culepepper and 1 start from Jamarcus Russell they threw for 2631 yards

    2008 JaMarcus Russell 2423 yards 13 TD 8 INT 53.8 cmp% 77.1 rating

    2009 Matt Hassleback 3029 yards 17 TD 17 INT 60.0cmp% 75.1 rating

    2012 Palmer(projected) 4592 yards 19 TD 14 INT 62.6 cmp% 88.7 rating

    If Palmer is incapable of succeeding in Knapps offense then clearly Knapp has never even sniffed a QB that is, which suggests that maybe the QBs in Knapps offenses are not the problem.
    =======================================
    Exactly what I was thinking. But, normally he is descent with a running game, but has a back that fits what he’s trying to do, which normally he can sniff out in later rounds in the draft…and not be stuck with a stud playmaker who he’s trying to force in when obviously it hasn’t worked in the past.

  487. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Gotta love SilverandBlackPride. Open thread for the Dolts vs. Donkeys game had 340 comments. Open thread for the Whiners vs. Seachickens last night garnered a whopping 11 comments. He11, NorcoBob (as Amy) had to have posted three times that many last night. Lots of true fans here, all true fans over there.

  488. RaiderFanLost inOz Says:

    If MLB=PDG and not Beast then you are a back up at best regardless of how much talent you have. Everything we are starts in the mind and PDG is soemthing you say about a hobby maybe.

  489. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    so did they sell out the lower bowl at least?

  490. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Don’t get me wrong, wouldn’t be here if I didn’t love the unique, anything goes (almost) format and am well aware of the sensibility gap between the AM crew and the PM crew. And I guess, if Method is to be believed, Norco is a fan, just an irrepressible instigator. Have some friends like that and occasionally am one myself.

  491. DMAC Says:

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    Raiders win 31-7

  492. hwnrdr Says:

    What’s up DMAC? It’s a Friday morning…

  493. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Good afternoon Mr. President !!
    GreenParty rules !!

  494. DMAC Says:

    I’m pulling da trigger quick this morning…..

    491.DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    Raiders win 31-7

    ===============

    Well then………
    FK u guys 2 on this beautiful cloudy morning in the O-A-K

  495. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Don’t get me wrong, wouldn’t be here if I didn’t love the unique, anything goes (almost) format and am well aware of the sensibility gap between the AM crew and the PM crew. And I guess, if Method is to be believed, Norco is a fan, just an irrepressible instigator. Have some friends like that and occasionally am one myself.
    ——
    Norco didn’t start talking up the 49ers until this season. He’s just kind of a dick. He hangs out with Brien at Raider games.

  496. hwnrdr Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Don’t get me wrong, wouldn’t be here if I didn’t love the unique, anything goes (almost) format and am well aware of the sensibility gap between the AM crew and the PM crew. And I guess, if Method is to be believed, Norco is a fan, just an irrepressible instigator. Have some friends like that and occasionally am one myself.

    Met Bob last year, and yes he is a fan! Quite to the contrary, he is a cool guy! He does love ruffling feathers…

  497. DMAC Says:

    Sorry fellas
    I take it back
    lol
    What up bros?!!!!

  498. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I wonder what happened to Richochet? He was KoolKell’s worst nightmare.

  499. DMAC Says:

    Grenn Party is da shizzzznit!!!

  500. DMAC Says:

    496.hwnrdr Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Don’t get me wrong, wouldn’t be here if I didn’t love the unique, anything goes (almost) format and am well aware of the sensibility gap between the AM crew and the PM crew. And I guess, if Method is to be believed, Norco is a fan, just an irrepressible instigator. Have some friends like that and occasionally am one myself.

    Met Bob last year, and yes he is a fan! Quite to the contrary, he is a cool guy! He does love ruffling feathers…
    =========

    Yeah, he’s a crazy coo-coo fan, but he’s cool.

  501. Plunketthead Says:

    ATTENTION to all who want TP to run some wildcat

    Forgetaboutit. If DA wants to use a wildcat have him put DMAC in at QB
    DMAC can run the wildcat and produce results,,,,most likely

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2007-06-28-mcfadden-sw-feature_N.htm

  502. Marks hair Says:

    This is what 1-4 looks like.. did we make the fake sellout? Or is the Coliseum gonna be as empty as this place?

  503. DMAC Says:

    502.Marks hair Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:57 am
    This is what 1-4 looks like.. did we make the fake sellout? Or is the Coliseum gonna be as empty as this place?

    =======

    I did my part.
    I’ll be there as always.
    Go Raiders!!!!!

  504. DMAC Says:

    Attention Green Party members and brothers from another mother.
    DMAC will be in full effect w/ a bottle/beer and plenty of trees to start our own canibis club. Would luv to share w/ my Raider famlilia.
    :)

  505. Plunketthead Says:

    Only one way to find out which bay team Norco likes the most.
    Next time he takes his mutts to the poodle parler, check what color scheme they come home in

  506. Marks hair Says:

    Has anybody tried gowing hydro with those led lights? Im debating which way to go.. tired of outdoor problems

  507. theghostronin79 Says:

    488.RaiderFanLost inOz Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 9:38 am
    If MLB=PDG and not Beast then you are a back up at best regardless of how much talent you have. Everything we are starts in the mind and PDG is soemthing you say about a hobby maybe.

    ============

    WORD ! ! !

  508. DMAC Says:

    506.Marks hair Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    Has anybody tried gowing hydro with those led lights? Im debating which way to go.. tired of outdoor problems
    =======

    Not used LED, but heard they work great.

  509. DMAC Says:

    Wouldn’t buy though, unless you have the extra cash to spend.

  510. R8ER MIKE Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    Attention Green Party members and brothers from another mother.
    DMAC will be in full effect w/ a bottle/beer and plenty of trees to start our own canibis club. Would luv to share w/ my Raider famlilia.

    ********************
    SWEET !! now all i need is airfare !!

  511. DMAC Says:

    Evan Silva…. (sorry for the long ass post, but someone’s got to do it)

    Jacksonville @ Oakland

    Darren McFadden’s trademark violence and explosion were missing on early-season runs, but the Week 5 bye seemed to do him some good. Oakland tweaked its zone-blocking scheme during the open date, incorporating power- and angle-based concepts. Although it didn’t fully show in the box score at Atlanta, McFadden responded with a season-best game in Week 6. He totaled 98 yards and a touchdown, and had two long runs called back by penalties, including a ferocious first-half rumble for 21. Beginning with Jacksonville’s 30th-ranked unit, McFadden has the most favorable rushing schedule in the league the rest of the way. The Raiders face just one run defense ranked higher than 20th over their next ten games. If there is still a buy-low window with your league’s McFadden owner, this may be your last chance to pounce. The Jaguars have been gutted by the run and benched two defensive linemen during their Week 6 bye. The healthy return of Darrius Heyward-Bey and reemergence of Denarius Moore as a dangerous intermediate and vertical playmaker are additional boons Oakland’s running-game outlook. … Mike Goodson busted 43- and 37-yard gains against the Falcons, but remains a change-of-pace back in OC Greg Knapp’s offensive system. While clearly out in front of Taiwan Jones in the running back pecking order, Goodson has yet to exceed six touches in any game this season and is strictly DMC’s handcuff.

    Moore missed the opener with a hamstring injury, but he’s been Carson Palmer’s go-to guy since returning in Week 2. Palmer’s target distribution in Oakland’s last four games: Moore 35, Brandon Myers 19, Marcel Reece 17, Derek Hagan and Heyward-Bey 15, McFadden 14, Rod Streater 11. … Moore burned Asante Samuel for an early-game 49-yard bomb in Week 6 and scored a 25-yard touchdown on a crosser, making three defenders miss after the catch. The Raiders’ usage of Moore as more than just a sideline-running deep threat bodes well for his consistency. He is the featured player in Oakland’s pass game, and fantasy owners should feel comfortable riding Moore as an every-week WR3 from here on out. … Moore will find openings downfield against the Jags’ secondary. Jacksonville’s pass rush has been nonexistent — ranking last in the NFL in sacks — and will be without top cover safety Dwight Lowery (ankle). … Heyward-Bey has been injured and unproductive. We need to see him put something in a box score. Despite leading Raiders wide receivers in Week 6 snaps, Heyward-Bey was targeted twice and held catch-less. … Myers is just a guy. He has no playmaking ability and a weekly ceiling of about five catches for 60 yards. … Hagan has passed Streater on the depth chart, but neither is a fantasy option. … Palmer is throwing the ball much better than the chatter might indicate and this is a great matchup for him.

    The Raiders are not considered one of the NFL’s better pass-rushing teams. They rank 31st in sacks and have underachieved despite a talented front four. Welp, that front four came to play against the Falcons last week and harassed the heck out of Matt Ryan, hitting him nine times and forcing “Matty Ice” into three picks. This all bodes poorly for Jacksonville’s passing game, which flatlines whenever Blaine Gabbert feels duress. … The Jaguars have publicly vowed to force feed Justin Blackmon the football coming out of their bye week. Blackmon has yet to hit 50 yards in a game this season while struggling to get open. We’ll see how that goes. … Cecil Shorts has displayed more big-play ability than Blackmon and will start in place of concussed Laurent Robinson. From a fantasy perspective, it’s just hard to trust any pass catcher when Gabbert’s the guy throwing him the ball. Even in a favorable matchup like this. … If Mike Mularkey is going to last longer than one season as Jaguars coach, he may need to win a few games. In Week 7, handing the rock to Maurice Jones-Drew relentlessly against Oakland’s No. 18 run defense is Mularkey’s best option. Despite the offensive mess around him, MJD is a strong fantasy buy low.

    Score Prediction: Raiders 24, Jaguars 16

  512. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    hwnrdr Says: He does love ruffling feathers…

    That’s the phrase I was looking for. Thank you, hwnrdr.

  513. Plunketthead Says:

    if you are growing one tree at a time LED may work.
    I would go organic soil for most aroma

  514. RaiderDuck Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Only one way to find out which bay team Norco likes the most.
    Next time he takes his mutts to the poodle parler, check what color scheme they come home in

    ==============================================

    No doubt he picks whichever scheme looks more pleasing from the back, if you get my drift…

  515. DMAC Says:

    510.R8ER MIKE Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    Attention Green Party members and brothers from another mother.
    DMAC will be in full effect w/ a bottle/beer and plenty of trees to start our own canibis club. Would luv to share w/ my Raider famlilia.

    ********************
    SWEET !! now all i need is airfare !!

    =======

    Just got my mastercard from Citibank.
    Spend $1500 in the 1st 3 months and you get lots of flight miliage.
    Would recommend to others.
    No excuses brother!!!!!!!!!
    lol

  516. DMAC Says:

    510.R8ER MIKE Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    Attention Green Party members and brothers from another mother.
    DMAC will be in full effect w/ a bottle/beer and plenty of trees to start our own canibis club. Would luv to share w/ my Raider famlilia.

    ********************
    SWEET !! now all i need is airfare !!

    =========

    OK I got a plan ODB…
    I’ll send you some fire to smoke.
    Than all you need to do is spread your wings and fly out West.

  517. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Rumors swirling about Lebron to the Lakers in 2014:

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/19/lakers-owner-says-it-is-no-accident-they-have-2014-cap-space/

  518. Plunketthead Says:

    Duck

    The toenails/hair ribbon will be silver/black or pukered. I dunno about the back

  519. Carl Weathers Says:

    Would I ever like to beat the snot out of slolando. I hope curry is on the mend and within a few games he takes away slo’s snaps.

  520. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Marks hair Says: Has anybody tried gowing hydro with those led lights? Im debating which way to go.. tired of outdoor problems===========
    No specific experience but can’t see LEDs having the proper spectrum/ intensity/ temp(as in kelvin). Trying to emulate the sun takes serious wattage. Saltwater aquarium exp. taught me that. Did grow indoor in the past, but that was before LEDs, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. Do they have hi-intensity LEDs? would like to know more.

  521. Carl Weathers Says:

    Thanks for the long ass post DMAC, good read.

  522. DMAC Says:

    Anytime brother

  523. Carl Weathers Says:

    Hey Allen, can you grow a beard or get your wife to slug ya once a week so you can not look like such a wuss. Thanks.
    Enjoy the game nation, cheers!

  524. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    “I think that’s pretty danged good,” McClain said. “They wanted Miles to go in. That’s perfectly fine with me. The situation is what it is.”

    “I don’t keep up with what people say outside here. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion,” McClain said. “I’m sure if I knew him, I could say things about him. I don’t. I don’t righteously care.”

    Allen said the coaching staff determined they would get more out of McClain by playing him less.

    “It makes my job easy, just focus on the base (defense) and go from there,” McClain said. “You understand the situation … you’re not naive to the fact of what’s going on. But at the same time you’re still a team player. If Coach thinks that’s the best thing for the defense, then by all means do it. I can focus on the base downs, and that’s what I put my energy toward.”

    =====

    does anyone else find this troubling? he doesnt care?!?!?

    Why not just say i need to get better?

    I killed cp3 for failing to take responsibility, at least last weekend he did. That is how you know a player is engaged when he owns up. If that player owns up publicly then is able to improve, his team mates will follow his lead.

    Leadership means you dont fear failure, nor its responsibility. There by you free up those that follow to do exactly that, follow and also be accountable.

  525. R8ER MIKE Says:

    OK I got a plan ODB…
    I’ll send you some fire to smoke.
    Than all you need to do is spread your wings and fly out West.

    ***********
    lol..i am sure some of those west coast trees would do the trick !!

  526. DMAC Says:

    Rolando McJogger would love to settle as our water boy.
    Dude is lacking some fire, instensity and motivation.

  527. DMAC Says:

    Thinking about going to the movies w/ the wifey.
    Any ideas???????

  528. Marks hair Says:

    I went to the epic daze potfest in sanfran a couple yrs ago and the leds seemed pretty sweet.. low power plus you dont have to switch lights for flowering.. some have a setting for the proper spectoms.. but they were pricey at the time..

  529. DMAC Says:

    Suggestions I meant.

  530. DMAC Says:

    but they were pricey at the time..
    ========

    It costs to be da boss!!
    Stick w/ the old lights unless you want to spend some extra dough.
    Thats my recomendation.

  531. Just Win Baby Says:

    Aaron Curry was on the IR for “sore knees”? I doubt he will have much of an impact on this defense this season, or any other season for that matter. Remember when Joe Namath played for the Rams with “sore knees”? No? Exactly. I hope I’m wrong about him, but it sounds like he’s got a couple weeks of practice left for his career.

  532. R8ER MIKE Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Thinking about going to the movies w/ the wifey.
    Any ideas???????

    ****************
    anything staring either Betty White or Jenna Jameson !!
    and dont forget to pull the old popcorn trick on her !!

  533. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    I went to the epic daze potfest in sanfran a couple yrs ago and the leds seemed pretty sweet.. low power plus you dont have to switch lights for flowering.. some have a setting for the proper spectoms.. but they were pricey at the time..

    *****************
    if you want to play like a sport, you are gonna pay like a sport !!

  534. DMAC Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Thinking about going to the movies w/ the wifey.
    Any ideas???????

    ****************
    anything staring either Betty White or Jenna Jameson !!
    and dont forget to pull the old popcorn trick on her !!
    =========

    Damn thats a tough 1, but I think I’m going to have to go w/ blow job Betty!

  535. hwnrdr Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Thinking about going to the movies w/ the wifey.
    Any ideas???????

    paranormal activity iv…lol

    But just scrolled up…dam, go see Jenna Jameison in anything…LOL

  536. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    last week Knapp did what i have been begging for, help carson out a little. creative pre snap motion, mis direction and for the love of god, let dmac come downhill and off tackle.

    For the record I believe that the o line now finds it self where it does nothing particularly well and you have some guys that are not zone blockers. The result was another poor showing of ruin blocking. However dmac coming down hill had a positive impact for the raiders, where as instead of losing 3 yards trying to run wide zone, he gained 2 yards off tackle. this made the play action game much more formidable.

    Hopefully we will see more of this this sunday, i believe dmac can have anice game against this paltry defense, and perhaps we can start to settle the oline into a particular identity. Right now its a little of this , a little of that, and a whole lot of nothing.

    When carson play fakes dmac off tackle, (carson is really really good with drop back play action, the defense cant out for the run because carson is still a threat to throw, this is not the case on the wide stretch. carson rarely keeps on the wide stretch, and hasnt been particularly featured in boot legs and roll outs, because tht is not his game. carson is far better when he is on a straight line drop back and can step up into the pocket on that same line.

    Misdirection, plat action off tackle, and slamming dmac into the line is what is needed to allow carson to do what he dos best, finally knapp is catching on.

  537. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    Curry ain’t that old his knees can’t be that bad Wtf, Allen made him studdy all 3 lb spots so I think he could offer something he’s not mentally a week puzzzy he plays with rage and would compliment Burris and wheeler .

  538. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Thinking about going to the movies w/ the wifey.
    Any ideas???????

    paranormal activity iv…lol

    But just scrolled up…dam, go see Jenna Jameison in anything…LOL
    =====

    i’M ROLLING W/ bETTY
    ODB says she’s dope!

  539. DMAC Says:

    Ill b back

  540. Marks hair Says:

    Thanx.. im still studying the lights and the hydro vs soil or the foam stuff.. too many bugs and theives outside.. and it takes all yr.

  541. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    I’d really like for one of our lb’s to light up MJD this sunday, have it be McClain cause he’s pissed a rookie took his starting spot and a fa unknown olb WHEELER took his Mic, lol.

  542. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Thinking about going to the movies w/ the wifey.
    Any ideas???????
    ——
    Seven Psychopaths is good. It’s pretty funny. Haven’t seen it, but Argo is supposed to be good too.

  543. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Seven Psychopaths is good. It’s pretty funny
    ********************************************
    lol kinda sounds like this place !!

  544. DMAC Says:

    May check it out
    Thanx

  545. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Well, Markshair, shows what I know. Googled ‘led grow lights for cannabis’ and apparently there’s been dramatic improvements in LED technology. Looks not only feasible, but desirable. I use the sun, but that’s no problem here, other than deer(and llamas). Don’t grow much, but don’t smoke much anymore, either. I know y’all don’t want to hear this, but I got more than I know what to do with and here in Grass Valley it’s hard to even off it for beer money. He11 of a thing.

  546. DMAC Says:

    This is a game where we are suppose to win. I just hope we don’t fk it up w/ bad special teams/penalties/ or giveaways.
    Play smart and agressive!

  547. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
    Seven Psychopaths is good. It’s pretty funny
    ********************************************
    lol kinda sounds like this place !!
    ——-
    This place only has 3 or four psychopaths. They have about 20 different handles, though.

  548. DMAC Says:

    Daniel Lewis…….. (sorry, its a slow day)

    Jaguars Game Preview vs. Raiders: Analysis, prediction

    Past results: Two most recent meetings — Dec. 12, 2010: Jaguars 38, Raiders 31; Dec. 23, 2007: Jaguars 49, Raiders 11. Series record: Jaguars lead 4-1.

    What matters: This is more a test of survival than a game. Both teams are off to a 1-4 start, and though it looks grim for both sides already, getting to 2-4 would be a huge morale booster going forward. The Raiders are coming off a heartbreaking, 23-20 loss to undefeated Atlanta last week. Was that a sign of progress or just another indication that they can’t get the job done? They’ll have a chance to answer that question this week. The Jaguars are coming off their bye week. It’s been a week of trying to get healthier and getting back to the basics. Coach Mike Mularkey vowed that they’re not giving up or starting over, rather they’ll continue to improve and make small changes to get back on track.

    Who matters: Coaches are often described as being on the hot seat, but the same description applies to QB Blaine Gabbert, who has shown subtle signs of improvement in his second season, but overall the results haven’t been there. The Jags are last in the NFL in passing yards per game (142.8) and Gabbert was roughed up in a 41-3 loss to Chicago two weeks ago, throwing two interceptions and posting a QB rating of 37.7. RB Maurice Jones-Drew (84 carries, 408 yards) is a great indicator of how the team is playing. His two best games — at Minnesota (77 yards) and at Indianapolis (177 yards) — are the team’s best performances of the year.

    Key matchups: The Raiders come into this game with the 12th ranked passing attack in the league, averaging 271.4 yards per game. It’s not an attack that relies on one go-to receiver, but rather QB Carson Palmer spreads the ball around to multiple RBs, TEs and WRs. That’ll put a strain on the Jaguars’ LBs and DBs who must be disciplined in picking up their assignments. Oakland RB Darren McFadden’s numbers have been somewhat disappointing, but he’s the type player who can take a short pass 80 yards if it’s not defended properly.

    Injuries of note: S Dwight Lowery (ankle), WR Laurent Robinson (concussion) and LB Daryl Smith (groin) are the biggest concerns. This week was the targeted return for Smith, who has been out all season, but he didn’t practice on Thursday, making it look like he could be out longer.

    Inside stuff: Lowery’s injury causes a gap in a secondary that already gives up an average of 261 yards of passing per game. S Chris Prosinki is expected to start in his place, but the Jaguars brought in veteran S Chris Harris this week for some insurance.

    Connections: Palmer will be reunited with Jaguars OC Bob Bratkowski. Palmer was the QB for the Bengals while Bratkowski was the OC from 2003-10. It will also be a homecoming for Jones-Drew, who is from nearby Antioch, Calif, and starred at UCLA.

    Stats you should know: The Jaguars are giving up an average of 163 rushing yards per game. McFadden is only averaging 3.2 yards per carry, and the Raiders are 29th in the league with 78.4 yards per game. This is a weakness vs. weakness scenario: Somebody will have a better day than normal.

    Looking ahead: The Jaguars will travel to Green Bay next week before hosting Detroit the following week. They then begin a three-week stretch against Indianapolis, Houston and Tennessee, all AFC South foes.

    Prediction: Raiders 28, Jaguars 20

  549. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says: This place only has 3 or four psychopaths.=====================

    Nah. Psychopaths are dead emotionally manics and psychotics we got, though. And some obvious bi-polars, possibly tri–polars and quadra-polars, too. If there is such a thing.

  550. mcfadden20. Says:

    Can some one post me stats of the “wave of the future QB” from last night ? I need a good laugh to start my day up

  551. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    LIGHT ‘EM UP, PM PARTY PATROL

    Brahs, we initiated a new member into our blog clan last night – Inonewordraider dropped a HELLA DOPE verse!

    Aw yeah, and then along with Dan78 and Plunky, we straight up DESTROYED Peemore Bust and a few of his sock puppets

    That’s just how the PMPP rolls, holla

    Yo DMAC just stay at home Brah, light some scented candles, make your honey a mimosa, spark a doobie and get down with a little Killer Elite

    Stratham straight up brings the HAMMER, whut whut

  552. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Wilson: 9-23 122 yards 0 TDs 1 INT

  553. DMAC Says:

    Yo DMAC just stay at home Brah, light some scented candles, make your honey a mimosa, spark a doobie and get down with a little Killer Elite
    =========

    Good idea
    Might try to create some more babies 2
    :)
    DMAC luv da kidz!!

  554. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Speaking of psychopaths, it’s Beeecham.

  555. DMAC Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Wilson: 9-23 122 yards 0 TDs 1 INT
    ========

    U sure that wasn’t Campbell’s #’s against the Whiners?

  556. Raider O Says:

    Good Day Nation and Green Party.
    Long live our prez (DMAC) and the ODB! Vote Green in 2016!

  557. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Yo DMAC just stay at home Brah, light some scented candles, make your honey a mimosa, spark a doobie and get down with a little Killer Elite
    =========

    Good idea
    Might try to create some more babies 2
    :)
    DMAC luv da kidz!!

    —————-

    Brah, the Beeech Diggity got 11 rug rats (that he knows of) in 5 states with 11 different strippers

    Guess that’s why they call it the blues

  558. RaidersOne Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    Well, Markshair, shows what I know. Googled ‘led grow lights for cannabis’ and apparently there’s been dramatic improvements in LED technology. Looks not only feasible, but desirable. I use the sun, but that’s no problem here, other than deer(and llamas). Don’t grow much, but don’t smoke much anymore, either. I know y’all don’t want to hear this, but I got more than I know what to do with and here in Grass Valley it’s hard to even off it for beer money. He11 of a thing.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    The place to grow cannabis is Sutter County, where I was born and raised: some of the greatest ag soil anywhere in the world, commonly at 100 degrees all summer, and more water than one can use.

    I know several people from so cal who moved to Grass Valley to grow, but the soil there is reddish clay and not that great.

    However, that is all contingent on one growing outdoors, in natural conditions.

  559. RaidersOne Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:29 am
    LIGHT ‘EM UP, PM PARTY PATROL

    Brahs, we initiated a new member into our blog clan last night – Inonewordraider dropped a HELLA DOPE verse!

    Aw yeah, and then along with Dan78 and Plunky, we straight up DESTROYED Peemore Bust and a few of his sock puppets

    That’s just how the PMPP rolls, holla

    Yo DMAC just stay at home Brah, light some scented candles, make your honey a mimosa, spark a doobie and get down with a little Killer Elite

    Stratham straight up brings the HAMMER, whut whut
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Beeechy, Gay Lover was looking for you last night and informed the blog that your mother was arrested for solicitation of prostitution.

    I told him the reason you weren’t in the blog is that you were bailing her out.

    My question is since you were fired some time ago from Olive Garden for blowing a dishwasher in the parking lot, where did you get the bail money?

  560. DMAC Says:

    Raider O Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Good Day Nation and Green Party.
    Long live our prez (DMAC) and the ODB! Vote Green in 2016!
    ==========

    O Dog!!!
    My brother from another mother.
    Whats smokin’????
    Green Team!!!!

  561. RaidersOne Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Brah, the Beeech Diggity got 11 rug rats (that he knows of) in 5 states with 11 different strippers

    Guess that’s why they call it the blues
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    DMAC,

    Beeechy is flat out flaming. He hates women and has never had a stripper in his life.

    You actually believe all that nonsense he conjures up ??? LOL!

  562. DMAC Says:

    RaidersOne Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    DMAC Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Brah, the Beeech Diggity got 11 rug rats (that he knows of) in 5 states with 11 different strippers

    Guess that’s why they call it the blues
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    DMAC,

    Beeechy is flat out flaming. He hates women and has never had a stripper in his life.

    You actually believe all that nonsense he conjures up ??? LOL!
    =========

    Don’t believe, but sometimes he comes w/ a few good laughers.
    Sometimes

  563. Marks hair Says:

    They say hydros harder, but it looks easier.. less watering fewer checkups.. just test the water ever few weeks and adjust lights and ph when your ready to flower.. ive got a room but theres no vents.. i guess ill need co2 to make it work.

  564. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, as you all know the Wrecks N Effect Hip Hop Tour launches soon and we’ve been locked down in rehearsals getting our flow mad tight

    DJ Kimchi, our Korean table master, is laying down phat beats and almost had intercourse last night. Passed out while french kissing a stripper from too much excitement, holla

    And we’ve got the Mo Fly Girlz, the hottest hip hop dance troupe ever. True, their massive boobie jobs get in the way of their dance moves, but that’s why they invented beer

    We’re going to drop a few hot jamz tomorrow night on the Reggae Party Cruise, should be way fly

    Now I just gotta get the Lawg some R&R so he’s ready for serious penetration into shorty’s rear ends

    WRECKS N FULL EFFECT

  565. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeecham is the Adam Sandler of the blog. They are both funny about %10 of the time.

  566. RaidersOne Says:

    The Beeech Dawg

    Now I just gotta get the Lawg some R&R so he’s ready for serious penetration into shorty’s rear ends
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Hey Beeechy,

    Who is “shorty”? Is that Antoine or the Mexican male dishwasher from Olive Garden?

  567. QCRAIDER Says:

    McClain on the bench sounds good to me. No anticipation, too slow to react, and the D looks like they are focused when he is sitting. By the way, when I read Beech Dawg’s posts I picture “The Sherminator” from the American Pie movie behind a lap top nodding his Howdy Doody head as he bangs aways at the keyboards like a sophisticated sex robot sent back through time to change the future for some lucky Hizzay. PUBES IN DA PIZZA YALL!

  568. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O!! whats up there Mr. V.P. ???

  569. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Albert Puss, Adam Sandler is a total dweeb and I can’t believe your mom let’s you go to his movies

    I’ve been described by critics around the world as a cross between Marlon Brando, Morgan Freeman and Long Duck Dong

    However with my ultra-stylish high fashion pube ‘dos, I’m getting a lot of J Timberlake these days

    Smooth operatin’, whut whut

  570. R8ER MIKE Says:

    new post !!

  571. RaidersOne Says:

    The Beeech Dawg,

    I’ve been described by critics around the world as a cross between Marlon Brando, Morgan Freeman and Long Duck Dong
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Beeechy baby,

    Your Gay Lover describes you an out and out ladyboy, 37 yrs old, who still lives your mother.

    Btw, is it true that you and moms had to relocate from Huntington Park to North Long Beach because you were caught blowing your neighbor’s child???

  572. La Milicia Negra Says:

    edward teach Says:
    October 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    LMN,

    Maybe it’s the language barrier, or maybe you’re just clinging to your version for some other reason, but I’ll say this again and maybe this time you’ll understand it;

    I never said Armstrong or Bruyneel weren’t cheating. What I said was that it was irresponsible to make a definitive statement that they were without proof, and in May of 2010 there wasn’t any.

    It would be the same as saying that Fuglsang is a cheater right now, except that we DO have proof that his associations have consistently been with those affiliated with doping.

    I asked you to use the same deductive reasoning with Fuglsang as you did with Armstrong… did you have a response to that?
    ______________________________________________________

    Bwahahha, if fuglsang wins a tour im sure he is doped, I know Bjarne Riis was, and Im sure Michael Rasmussen were.. again you mix countries in it.. I dont understand why you are offended just because its coincidently is an american

    riders are without countries, they ride for their teams. Any given tour from the last 15 years, the top 50 riders were doped somehow, no doubt about it..

    If its important to you that im saying fuglsang is or isnt doped, i dont know, the younger riders seems to have a better ethic, than those aged 30-45 today.. but if fuglsang rides up Alp D’Huez in 40 minutes im sure he is doped. Everybody with knowledge of the sport, heck even common knowledge is enough to say “of course Lance Armstrong was doped”. But to compare a 7 times winner of the tour to a meager danish rider ranked 133 in the world is plain ludicrous. Bjarne Riis did the ride in 39m30s in 1995, the first to get below the 40minute mark, he admitted to be doped later on, after his career as a rider was over..

    Pantani did the Alp d’Huez ride in 1997 in 37m35s and was later convicted for doping, Lance Armstrong did the ride ONE second slower in 2004 clearly doped, common sense says so, no jury or court is needed all riders with times lower than 42 minutes were and is doped.

    Lance Armstrong did the ride 38m01s in 2001 and as soon as then everybody should have said, “yo, emperor wheres your clothes” but all were caught by the hype.. I believed the allegations of Lance Armstrong in 1999, because, it seemed like the sport wanted to clear out the weed, now we understand he has paid off for further accusations

  573. qodrn1 Says:

    The Prediction Board:

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
    Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
    Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
    Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
    Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)

    C2E Says: Raiders 30-17
    Dan78 Says: Raiders 24 Jaguars 17
    downsouthraider Says: Raiders 35 Jacksonville 13
    DMAC Says: Raiders win 31-7
    JLofty Says: Raiders 24 – Puddytats 13
    qodrn: Raiders 27, Jags 20
    SilverNBlackPA Says: Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17
    Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10

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