Raiders-Jaguars practice report
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, October 18th, 2012 at 2:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
JAGUARS
Did Not Participate In Practice
Wednesday
DT Tyson Alualu (not injury related), S Dwight Lowery (ankle), C Brad Meester (not injury related), WR Laurent Robinson (concussion)
Thursday
S Dwight Lowery (ankle), WR Laurent Robinson (concussion), LB Daryl Smith (groin)
Limited Participation in Practice
Wednesday
S Dawan Landry (knee), LB Daryl Smith (groin)
Thursday
S Dawan Landry (knee)
Full Participation in Practice
Wednesday
DE George Selvie (knee)
Thursday
DT Tyson Alualu (not injury related), C Brad Meester (not injury related), DE George Selvie (knee)
RAIDERS
Did Not Participate In Practice
Wednesday
T Khalif Barnes (groin), TE Richard Gordon (hamstring), CB Shawntae Spencer (foot)
Thursday
T Khalif Barnes (groin), TE Richard Gordon (hamstring), RB Taiwan Jones (knee), CB Shawntae Spencer (foot)
Limited Participation in Practice
Wednesday
G Mike Brisiel (concussion), K Sebastian Janikowski (left groin), RB Taiwan Jones (knee), C Alex Parsons (shoulder, back), DT Richard Seymour (knee)
Thursday
G Mike Brisiel (concussion), K Sebastian Janikowski (left groin), C Alex Parsons (shoulder, back), DT Richard Seymour (knee)
Full Participation in Practice
Wednesday
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (shoulder), RB Darren McFadden (shoulder), WR Denarius Moore (shoulder), TE Brandon Myers (ear, knee)
Thursday
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (shoulder), RB Darren McFadden (shoulder), WR Denarius Moore (shoulder), TE Brandon Myers (ear, knee)
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October 18th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
uno
October 18th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
2 for 1
October 18th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
still DA skucs….
October 18th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Raiders 24 Jaguars 17
October 18th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Get Reece the ball…..
October 18th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Bring back the power scheme!!!!!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Get McFadden going early..
October 18th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Throw Dmoore some bombs!!!!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
MJD runs for 200 yards, but the Raiders hold on for the win. Raiders 24 – Jags 21
October 18th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Seachickens will edge the whiners tonight. Book it.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
hmmm so as i predicted the raiders losing this year with palmer and dmac being touted as the dynamic duo is not enough to sell tickets.
This is troubling in only game 6 of the season no less.
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One of the two players you mentioned is having a Pro Bowl caliber season. The other one would have been benched 2 weeks ago if he were not a top 5 pick. Unless your boy Pryor can come in and be a top 10 RB, there is no logical reason to have him out there other than for “oddity tent” factor of the local carnival.
It’s not that the Raiders are having trouble selling out games after only 6 weeks.
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what ever the reason they are not delivering the touchdowns and wins they were touted and hyped for. it has been a miserable failur so far as evedinced by our 1-4 record.
they are now haing diffculty selling this product as is and will need to overhaul soon.
Once the playoff race is officially closed for this team they will be searching for ways to bring people to the gate, TP6 is the man that can do that.
There was a major buzz leading into Detroit, because every one wanted to see what tp could do.
That will be the trump card at the end of the season to sell tix
No one will pay to watch this dynamic duo dredge through the end of a 4 win season
October 18th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Hue jackson?? Again? n***a please….
October 18th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
cfrylopez Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Oakland Stadium proposals: Rick Tripp Development has a proposal on the table for a new Raiders stadium in Oakland, that is 100% privately financed (through a Saudi-owned investment bank, three private equity funds, a pension fund, in-stadium taxation, etc.)
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Will they be called the Saudi Arabia Raiders of Oakland?
October 18th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
hmmm so as i predicted the raiders losing this year with palmer and dmac being touted as the dynamic duo
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in Hues scheme Mistic “HUES SCHEME”. Not Knapptimes scheme. get it now.
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but palmer has posted losing records in both.
I agree that knapp stinks though, but local media was hyping this so called dynamic duo this season after just before the season started.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
2 Int and a fumble recovery.
Palmer 320 yd 2TD 1 int
Mcfadden 91 rushing yds 1 TD 30 rec yds
Dmoore 140 yds 1 TD
October 18th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
LMAO if you and others in Oakland think that is how the world works with new stadiums, then you might as well kiss the Raiders goodbye once again. The Viqueens are only paying just under 50% of the cost of their new $975 million dollar stadium. Broncos only paid about 32% of their stadium costs. Colts only about 14% of their stadium costs. Cards only about 33%.
So look for Oakland to have to pony up about 50-70% of the stadium costs….or the Raiders will be on the move.
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Sorry, but those sort of sweetheart deals where the municipality finances a stadium while the teams finances a fraction of the cost are long gone, especially in this economic climate.
Just to get to ground breaking, costs millions and takes years to accomplish, it ever.
The 49′ers will finance almost the whole cost of the Santa Clara facility.
If you think that Mark, with the Raiders in disarray and unable to sell out games, can just whip out of Oakland and into a new stadium as if he had tons of economic leverage, you are wrong.
If stadiums are so easily built then why the years long hold up ?
Raiders are going nowhere.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
hmmm so as i predicted the raiders losing this year with palmer and dmac being touted as the dynamic duo
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in Hues scheme Mistic “HUES SCHEME”. Not Knapptimes scheme. get it now.
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but palmer has posted losing records in both.
I agree that knapp stinks though, but local media was hyping this so called dynamic duo this season after just before the season started i beleive
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How can you count last season and the guy got picked up off the couch for god sakes(NO TRAING CAMP, NEW PLAYBOOK) furthermore those handfull of games were without DMAC.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
There was a major buzz leading into Detroit, because every one wanted to see what tp could do.
That will be the trump card at the end of the season to sell tix
No one will pay to watch this dynamic duo dredge through the end of a 4 win season
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Certainly, going into the next season you want to see if the guy can even hold a spot on the roster. That is going to worth more than a couple of thousand extra tickets late in a dismal season. But remember there are long time paid professionals that have scouted that players since he was in single digits. And 31 of those orgs passed on him. Twice.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Yo, check out this jam I’m working on about serving time, leading a prison break and eventually becoming Mayor of Los Angeles
This is a dope song that’ll make the ladies all wanna be with Beeech Dawg, the hella bad boy
It’s called Hard Time
Yo I just got busted
For killin’ some Crips
Ain’t no more home livin’
No more Ruffles and dips
Got to San Quentin
Led a mean ol gang
Broke out the next day
That’s when the doves sang
When I got back home
Bought a 3 piece suit
Ran for public office
Gave Villarigosa the boot
Now I’m making phat cheddar
Runnin’ the show
But I still cry at night
For my locked up homies, fo sho
GETTIN’ STRAIGHT DEEP IN 2012
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Hue jackson?? Again? n***a please….
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DONT SAY THAT AGAIN PLS AND THANKYOU.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Poor Beechie……….dreaming as always. Maybe you can get your old job at Olive Garden back, if you can get the manager’s nut.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Yo, check out this jam I’m working on about serving time, leading a prison break and eventually becoming Mayor of Los Angeles
This is a dope song that’ll make the ladies all wanna be with Beeech Dawg, the hella bad boy
It’s called Hard Time
Yo I just got busted
For killin’ some Crips
Ain’t no more home livin’
No more Ruffles and dips
Got to San Quentin
Led a mean ol gang
Broke out the next day
That’s when the doves sang
When I got back home
Bought a 3 piece suit
Ran for public office
Gave Villarigosa the boot
Now I’m making phat cheddar
Runnin’ the show
But I still cry at night
For my locked up homies, fo sho
GETTIN’ STRAIGHT DEEP IN 2012
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Beech dont forget to pour some of that 40 for the homies that are long and gone…..
October 18th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:13 p
How can you count last season and the guy got picked up off the couch for god sakes(NO TRAING CAMP, NEW PLAYBOOK) furthermore those handfull of games were without DMAC.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Without DMAC ? Oh yeah, DMAC is running wild.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
There was a major buzz leading into Detroit, because every one wanted to see what tp could do.
That will be the trump card at the end of the season to sell tix
No one will pay to watch this dynamic duo dredge through the end of a 4 win season
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Certainly, going into the next season you want to see if the guy can even hold a spot on the roster. That is going to worth more than a couple of thousand extra tickets late in a dismal season. But remember there are long time paid professionals that have scouted that players since he was in single digits. And 31 of those orgs passed on him. Twice.
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means nothing to me.
most teams still dont look for the super athletic qb and are married to the old drop back model.
there wer legitmate questions about the kids character based on the shinanigans as a buck eye
he was forced to declare as jr
these are all reasons he slipped on draft day, but college and pro scouts miss all of the time. Just like only baylor saw rgIII as a qb
October 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Poor Beechie……….dreaming as always. Maybe you can get your old job at Olive Garden back, if you can get the manager’s nut.
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Seriously, Peemore Bust? ANOTHER sock puppet?
Admit it, you’ve email accounts with Yahoo, AOL & Hotmail just so you can throw up aliases on the blog, don’t you?
Although it all pays off when you get confused and post as the wrong puppet, holla
WRECKS N FULL EFFECT
October 18th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
alright now im gone
October 18th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
cfrylopez Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Oakland Stadium proposals: Rick Tripp Development has a proposal on the table for a new Raiders stadium in Oakland, that is 100% privately financed (through a Saudi-owned investment bank, three private equity funds, a pension fund, in-stadium taxation, etc.)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Jackass! Let’s sell the “Saudi’s” some clear blue sky. Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
We should adopt as our new watchword, “Yes we can!”
October 18th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:13 p
How can you count last season and the guy got picked up off the couch for god sakes(NO TRAING CAMP, NEW PLAYBOOK) furthermore those handfull of games were without DMAC.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Without DMAC ? Oh yeah, DMAC is running wild.
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Some of you guys are just plain slow. DMAC was running wild in HUES scheme dummy. next time go back and read all the post before chiming in.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Yo, check out this jam I’m working on about serving time, leading a prison break and eventually becoming Mayor of Los Angeles
This is a dope song that’ll make the ladies all wanna be with Beeech Dawg, the hella bad boy
It’s called Hard Time
Yo I just got busted
For killin’ some Crips
Ain’t no more home livin’
No more Ruffles and dips
Got to San Quentin
Led a mean ol gang
Broke out the next day
That’s when the doves sang
When I got back home
Bought a 3 piece suit
Ran for public office
Gave Villarigosa the boot
Now I’m making phat cheddar
Runnin’ the show
But I still cry at night
For my locked up homies, fo sho
GETTIN’ STRAIGHT DEEP IN 2012
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Beech dont forget to pour some of that 40 for the homies that are long and gone…..
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Yo Big Dan, you know I’m packin’ vintage Crazy Horses in my camouflage backpack
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
October 18th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
37 and still living w/Mom ?? That is what you Gay Lover claims, and I believe him.
Your newest lyrics suck, Beeechie Baby.
Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
“When I got back home
Bought a 3 piece suit
Ran for public office
Gave Villarigosa the boot
Now I’m making phat cheddar”
Brilliant Beeechy Baby, just brilliant. Maybe I’ll notify Ice Cube so he can back you.
Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
That horrible Carson palmer trade is still gonna screw the Raiders this year with the 2nd round pick. That could have been huge for this team.
So if the Raiders pick in the top 7 i See Reggie getting more picks.
Raiders need MLB Manti Teo’ or stay with the 7th pick and draft an ELITE PASS RUSHER.. or PREMIRE DT halio Ngata type . That NT/ DT from UTAH Star leoutiu
Or trade down and draft TEo’ and a CORNBERBACK like Rhodes from Florida state.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Why is nobody stating the obvious?
Rolondo plays like he has been hitting the sippy cup
He acts like it as well
Aint got time for interview, gotta get home, hit the sippy
October 18th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Blog Brahs and Nerd Blobs
Just sent my new hardcore rap to Miley Cyrus’s management team along with a note stapled to one of my XXXL jock straps -
“Beeeech Diggity Penthouse @8, time to let the Dawgs (my weiner & nads) Out”
I’ve only got a few hours until she shows, so I better start buying Magnums as soon as possible
I don’t know if I can tan the abs much, kinda overcast today. But a thin spread of Nutella over the 18 pack just might fool her
TAKIN THIS JAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL
October 18th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
14.Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
LMAO if you and others in Oakland think that is how the world works with new stadiums, then you might as well kiss the Raiders goodbye once again. The Viqueens are only paying just under 50% of the cost of their new $975 million dollar stadium. Broncos only paid about 32% of their stadium costs. Colts only about 14% of their stadium costs. Cards only about 33%.
So look for Oakland to have to pony up about 50-70% of the stadium costs….or the Raiders will be on the move.
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It is not like the City of Minneapolis paid for the other $600mm. That was paid for by a sales tax raise for the entire citizens of the State of Minnesota amongst other things. If you think that is going to happen in California, you are high. And I mean Rick James high. So, therefor the Raiders only chance of moving would be to Minnesota. Then we could have the Minneapolis Vikings and the St. Paul Raiders.
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Well, since no billionaires are going to build an LA-type stadium in Oakland, and the Cali taxpayers are not going to help Oakland pay for a stadium, then you are conceding that the Raiders are as good as gone?
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Possibly they could be gone. I dunno. I just think its a ludicrous system to ask for the tax payer to pay for a stadium that isnt really necessary.
If the Raiders want sell outs, just win baby.
If the Raiders want to profit from a new stadium, build it themselves.
It’s a principle thing. Nothing more.
If the Davis family wants us to share the burden for their stadium, they should share their profits. Which we know will never happen.
The fact is, a new stadium would be nice, but it is far from necessary. A $70 seat is a $70 seat whether a new or old stadium. And just because the stadium is new doesnt guarantee more sell outs/profits in the long run. Winning and stability = sellouts = profits. It’s quite simple.
They need to show some commitment to us. We’ve been more than gracious to them. I’ve bought more than my fair share of tickets to games where our team didnt show up.
If LA has a billionaire group that will privately fund a stadium build, that will be hard to compete with. If Oakland goes and co–finances a stadium to keep the Raiders in town, that is bad business if you ask me. Take that money and go rebuild some local businesses and schools. The Raiders are a private business within the NFL. The NFL should be footing the bill.
If the NFL and the Raiders think it will be wise to jump ship to a already proven poor fan base in LA, they got a rude awakening coming. If the same crap product is on the field in LA, then you will see even less fans in the stands. And its not like the Raiders will be more profitable. Revenue sharing prevents the Raiders from truly capitalizing on any media contract with the LA market.
So what is there to gain? A half empty but new stadium that Mark Davis doesnt have to pay for? A twice torn up fan base?
Why not commit to Oakland for a change Mark. Sign a long term deal. Put a winner on the field. And get the financing yourself (use the Raiders and Al’s vast property holdings as leverage) and build your own damn stadium if you think it is so economically viable.
If its not viable, then stick with what you got. A 65k seat stadium that will sell out plenty and make Mark money if he puts a winner on the field.
If its not viable for Mark to build himself, then why should Oakland be suckered into thinking its viable for them! Nobody has more to gain than the Raiders, nobody has less to lose by sticking with the Coliseum than the Raiders. If Mark wont do it, Oakland definitely shouldnt.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Eastoaklandraider
Some of you guys are just plain slow. DMAC was running wild in HUES scheme dummy. next time go back and read all the post before chiming in.
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Actually I am way ahead of you and you are too simple to know it.
DMAC just ran wild under Hue’s scheme: righto! He had two good games against the NYJ’s and the Bronco.
The rest of the time he sucked, then went down. We all know that.
Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
“When I got back home
Bought a 3 piece suit
Ran for public office
Gave Villarigosa the boot
Now I’m making phat cheddar”
Brilliant Beeechy Baby, just brilliant. Maybe I’ll notify Ice Cube so he can back you.
Yes we can!
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Peemore Bust, please don’t ever change!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Eastoaklandraider
Some of you guys are just plain slow. DMAC was running wild in HUES scheme dummy. next time go back and read all the post before chiming in.
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Actually I am way ahead of you and you are too simple to know it.
DMAC just ran wild under Hue’s scheme: righto! He had two good games against the NYJ’s and the Bronco.
The rest of the time he sucked, then went down. We all know that.
Yes we can!
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Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Raider Riff,
Unless AD or Mark were stacking lots and lots of paper, I doubt the Raiders have a billion dollars just hanging around to finance a stadium.
You have the concept Riff: unless the Raiders are a highly profitable enterprise (which they are not) no stadium will be built.
If a stadium is built by billionaire developers, the Raiders will simply be tenants. Of course they still have to qualify financially and that will be difficult for them to do.
Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Uh oh, here comes my daily dork slap. Looks like lil biachi is beginning a meltdown. He is confusing me with his gay friends.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Seymour Bush:
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
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Yes, very true. The Posters here forget that too.
Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:44 am
tony romo, , and carson palmer.
All have posted explosive stats at various points i thier careers, all have struggled with turnovers at others points.
neither has shown they can carry a team to wins consistently.
romo and palmer have struggled to even get into the playoff most of thier careers.
The bungles under achieved for several seasons before telling palmer “go ahead and quit, we dont need want or even like you that much”. romo and the cow pies are yearly disappointments, and romo has been a major goat with post season gaffs, and wild fluctuations in production in the regular season.
These are classic cases of qbs that may produce stats but dont lead wins and cant be called great. i have a hard time beleiving that any one of these two will ever become the “elite qb” they have been billed to be so late in thier careers.
they are like neil lomax, stan humphries, kerry collins, jeff george, danny white and so on.
These qb didnt win and eventually were let go even in the midst of posting solid individual stats.
When the team loses qb is always at risk of losing his starting gig, especially if it is an aging vet.
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hahahahhahaaha!!!!!!!!
this dude mentions a super bowl winner (white) and two other super bowl qb’s (collins, humphries) as his examples of losers.
this guy is just burying himself.
hey mistic–how many of ur “wave of the future” qb’s are there in the nfl right now?
October 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Yo I just got busted
For killin’ some Crips
Ain’t no more home livin’
No more Ruffles and dips
Got to San Quentin
Led a mean ol gang
Broke out the next day
That’s when the doves sang
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Pure genius: Beeechy the Pretender, lol
Yes we can!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I need to call the B-52’s and have them redo one of their songs for my new theme song:
“Dork slap, it’s a dork slap baby..”
October 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
So great, the Yanks gettin’ swept
That broad A-Rod was trying to hook up with was decent, but I don’t know if she’d even make it on the Reggae Party Boat VIP list
More than likely she’s have to pay full price + shrimp cocktail buffet
I’d let her swab the Beeech Lawg but only after 7 or 8 daiquiris
COCKTAIL SAUCE N THE HOUSE
October 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Raider Riff,
Unless AD or Mark were stacking lots and lots of paper, I doubt the Raiders have a billion dollars just hanging around to finance a stadium.
You have the concept Riff: unless the Raiders are a highly profitable enterprise (which they are not) no stadium will be built.
If a stadium is built by billionaire developers, the Raiders will simply be tenants. Of course they still have to qualify financially and that will be difficult for them to do.
Yes we can!
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I dont think Al was stacking lost of cash on the side. I do know he has a lot of leverageable assets.
The simple fact is this, if it dont make sense to Mark to finance himself, then why should it make sense to Oakland? I understand it will hurt Oaklands economy if the Raiders leave, but it only gets worse if they finance the stadium.
Like you said, the Raiders need to be “highly profitable” to warrant the stadium build. Well, I say, if the Raiders are highly profitable, then why waste the billion on a new stadium? It just doesnt make sense.
Raiders just need to win games and the rest will take care of itself.
Moving to LA wont make them any more profitable. Nor will a new stadium if they are still a 1-4 type football team.
Apparently there are Saudi investors willing to finance a Oakland stadium? That is Mark’s best option. Leaving Oakland would be a huge mistake.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
gayest….poster….ever!
October 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
A new stadium doesnt prevent the Raiders from leaving down the road when they realize a losing product is just as un-profitable in a new stadium as in a old stadium.
If the Raiders have to pay for the stadium, it prevents them from EVER threatening to leave.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I need to call the B-52’s and have them redo one of their songs for my new theme song:
“Dork slap, it’s a dork slap baby..”
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Wouldn’t it be easier to have one of your 27 blog aliases can make the call for you?
THE BEEEECH DIGGITY BACKHAND N FULL EFFECT
October 18th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Dork slap, baby dork slap..
Lil biachi saying alfredo sauce was coming out his ass is the single most hilarious moment in the history of the blog. That was not creamy alfredo sauce.
Dork slap, baby dork slap…
October 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
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thats only because he was relatively healthy that year, WOULD HAVE crushed that mark had he stayed healthy last year and you and everyone else knows it and if you claim you dont your in denial.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Leaving Oakland would be a huge mistake.
Again.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Blog Brahs, you gotta admit – there’s nothing funnier than a Peemore Blog Beatdown
You KNOW the Beeech Diggity GOTS to keep it real
Speaking of hooking up with Miley tonight, I’m going to have a full spread of delicious finger foods and mini deserts for her to enjoy
While I’m getting her from behind. In the pooper.
Ahhh yeah, drop them beats DJ Kimchi
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
like i said. gayest…poster…ever.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
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thats only because he was relatively healthy that year, WOULD HAVE crushed that mark had he stayed healthy last year and you and everyone else knows it and if you claim you dont your in denial.
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Again, that is one of the advantages of the zone scheme. Running lanes, not crashing into defenders at the POA. And in one of his runs in the lst quarter last game, the Raiders called a very simple guard trap play. 66 pulled was running down field, and McFadden cut right into the DT standing there. Why he didn’t follow the guard which EVERY back is taught starting in Pop Warner is beyond me.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
like i said. gayest…poster…ever.
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From the gayest…poster….ever. Lil biachi’s boyfriend is infinitely funnier. And more original.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Dork slap, baby dork slap..
Lil biachi saying alfredo sauce was coming out his ass is the single most hilarious moment in the history of the blog. That was not creamy alfredo sauce.
Dork slap, baby dork slap…
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Uh Oh …
MELTDOWN!
too hilarious
October 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Apparently there are Saudi investors willing to finance a Oakland stadium?
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Late to the party. Where did you read this, Riff?
October 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
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thats only because he was relatively healthy that year, WOULD HAVE crushed that mark had he stayed healthy last year and you and everyone else knows it and if you claim you dont your in denial.
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Again, that is one of the advantages of the zone scheme. Running lanes, not crashing into defenders at the POA. And in one of his runs in the lst quarter last game, the Raiders called a very simple guard trap play. 66 pulled was running down field, and McFadden cut right into the DT standing there. Why he didn’t follow the guard which EVERY back is taught starting in Pop Warner is beyond me.
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Agreed. I dont see a problem with the scheme.
If it isnt DMC running into the wrong lane, its a blocker getting blown up, or a ref throwing a flag on the plays that do work.
DMC needs to buy in. If a player never buys in, then they will NEVER succeed. No matter what. Maybe he has bought in and he’s legitimately struggling despite having faith in the system. Fine, I can live with that. But he needs to step up and get with it, as do his blockers.
Ive said it before and I’ll say it again, RB’s need to get in a rythmn just like any other skill position player. DMC just hasnt found his rhythmn yet.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
The Big Banana Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Apparently there are Saudi investors willing to finance a Oakland stadium?
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Late to the party. Where did you read this, Riff?
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In one of the last two stories posted here. One of the members cut and past a outline of the Raiders options. It looked credible.
It isnt hard to find, go back both stories and do a search on the page for “Saudi Arabia” and you will find the post.
Let me know what you think of it.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Doc. Rob the volunteer GAY proctologist … Only sees MALE patients…
October 18th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
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thats only because he was relatively healthy that year, WOULD HAVE crushed that mark had he stayed healthy last year and you and everyone else knows it and if you claim you dont your in denial.
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Again, that is one of the advantages of the zone scheme. Running lanes, not crashing into defenders at the POA. And in one of his runs in the lst quarter last game, the Raiders called a very simple guard trap play. 66 pulled was running down field, and McFadden cut right into the DT standing there. Why he didn’t follow the guard which EVERY back is taught starting in Pop Warner is beyond me.
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so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
October 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I don’t know if I can tan the abs much, kinda overcast today. But a thin spread of Nutella over the 18 pack just might fool her
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October 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Peytons Brain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Doc. Rob the volunteer GAY proctologist … Only sees MALE patients…
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really? that’s ur best attempt at comedy? pathetic.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Blog Brahs, just about to start rehearsal for the Wrecks N Effect tour
Let me rephrase – DJ Kimchi will be starting rehearsal. I will be taking a hot shower with the Mo Fly Girlz
Seems they’re having trouble cleaning their va-jay-jays, after all they can barely see over their massive booblie jobs
So I got the ShamWow out and a pair of water polo goggles. This could get interesting (because my lips will be right near their coochies)
AIN’T GOT NO POP IF YOU AIN’T RAPPIN HIP HOP
October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
eastoaklandraider,
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
not sure
October 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
————–
thats only because he was relatively healthy that year, WOULD HAVE crushed that mark had he stayed healthy last year and you and everyone else knows it and if you claim you dont your in denial.
=======================================
Again, that is one of the advantages of the zone scheme. Running lanes, not crashing into defenders at the POA. And in one of his runs in the lst quarter last game, the Raiders called a very simple guard trap play. 66 pulled was running down field, and McFadden cut right into the DT standing there. Why he didn’t follow the guard which EVERY back is taught starting in Pop Warner is beyond me.
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Agreed. I dont see a problem with the scheme.
If it isnt DMC running into the wrong lane, its a blocker getting blown up, or a ref throwing a flag on the plays that do work.
DMC needs to buy in. If a player never buys in, then they will NEVER succeed. No matter what. Maybe he has bought in and he’s legitimately struggling despite having faith in the system. Fine, I can live with that. But he needs to step up and get with it, as do his blockers.
Ive said it before and I’ll say it again, RB’s need to get in a rythmn just like any other skill position player. DMC just hasnt found his rhythmn yet.
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If its not the scheme why was DMAC on pace for 2k yards and now he’s on pace for what? barely a 1000? which is no longer impressive btw. and if its not the scheme and its “RHYTHM” Why does goodson look so much better in the zbs? in my line of thought maybe goodson is a better zbs rb than Dmac. crazy logic huh?
October 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 11:44 am
tony romo, , and carson palmer.
All have posted explosive stats at various points i thier careers, all have struggled with turnovers at others points.
neither has shown they can carry a team to wins consistently.
romo and palmer have struggled to even get into the playoff most of thier careers.
The bungles under achieved for several seasons before telling palmer “go ahead and quit, we dont need want or even like you that much”. romo and the cow pies are yearly disappointments, and romo has been a major goat with post season gaffs, and wild fluctuations in production in the regular season.
These are classic cases of qbs that may produce stats but dont lead wins and cant be called great. i have a hard time beleiving that any one of these two will ever become the “elite qb” they have been billed to be so late in thier careers.
they are like neil lomax, stan humphries, kerry collins, jeff george, danny white and so on.
These qb didnt win and eventually were let go even in the midst of posting solid individual stats.
When the team loses qb is always at risk of losing his starting gig, especially if it is an aging vet.
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hahahahhahaaha!!!!!!!!
this dude mentions a super bowl winner (white) and two other super bowl qb’s (collins, humphries) as his examples of losers.
this guy is just burying himself.
hey mistic–how many of ur “wave of the future” qb’s are there in the nfl right now?
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lol this dude finds new ways to embarass himeslf daily.
I dont know what planet you are on but danny white has never won a super bowl bright boy.
I never called them losers
you know you can look this stuff up right?
hilarious
October 18th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
eastoaklandraider,
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
not sure
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well at least you were honest thats more than I can say for most folks here.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
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I can tell you exactly what it is. lst off, Wisniewski is not playing very well at center. Neither are the two guards. That triangle has not been very effective. Now again, you are putting in a completely new scheme with completely new players, and the Oline is the ONE UNIT that needs the most reps to get it down regardless of what system you are running. But they have been disapppointing.
Couple that with the fact that our starting WR’s in game one were DHB and a guys named Streator who had never played an NFL game, along with a unhearalded Brandon Myers and you had defenses keying on McFadden. And rightfully so. Which brings us to Knapp. Knapp force fed the ball to McFadden which did not work well at all.
So, whaa happens now? Well, with Moore now in there, and DHB healthy and the return signing of Hagan, the WR corp is no longer something other teams can take for granted. Especially with the emergence of Myers and now Ausberry is beginning to look good. The team has to get out of its “run first” kind of mode, into using the pass to set up the running game.
But I know what you are thinking. So, what’s with the criticism of McFadden then? Watch his runs. He takes a two yard dive like 80% of the time. He is NOT running hard. When he does run hard, he is VERY effective. And you can blame it any way you want but that is fact. The tape clearly shows it. And if that is not enough, the last four games McFadden has had more drops than receptions in the passing game. That’s HARD TO DO. And Goodson has played well. Very well.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I don’t know if I can tan the abs much, kinda overcast today. But a thin spread of Nutella over the 18 pack just might fool her
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October 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
eastoaklandraider,
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
not sure
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From what Ive seen…
Our O-Line play is worse. It’s been reshuffled and not identical to the past. But regardless, some of the players just arent playing as good.
Play calling is different. Im not talking about the difference in scheme, Im talking the difference in actual in game play calling. Knapp can scheme and call plays just fine. But Hue was/is one of the best in the league at in-game play calls. Catching a D off-guard. Hue’s play calling aided our O-Line.
And we’ve just made to many mistakes. We’ve handicapped our coaching staff in many ways. Reece fumbling the reverse to Taiwan, dropped passes, in-excusible fumbles, and occasional poor WR play are all factors that affect everything.
The bottom line is that it isnt just ONE single thing. It’s a domino effect.
Perfectly timed flags by the refs dont help. Neither does DMC’s poor lane and pace choice. You cant ignore the fact that Goodson has no problem in this system and DMC struggles on the same plays. Some of that has to do with the fact that the D expects a pass when Goodson is in the backfield, credit what I said about the playcalling earlier. But some of it also has to do with Goodsons patience and field vision. It’s simply been better than DMC.
We’ve been a block here and there away from a lot more big runs by DMC. The line has to step up and be more consistent.
Like I said, it isnt just one thing.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
mistic—These qb didnt win
that’s what u said.
danny white was a cowboy when they won super bowl xII…..as a punter. it was my little joke.
but u claim they didn’t win. getting to the super bowl is winning. how many black qb’s have gotten there?
October 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
=========================================
I can tell you exactly what it is. lst off, Wisniewski is not playing very well at center. Neither are the two guards. That triangle has not been very effective. Now again, you are putting in a completely new scheme with completely new players, and the Oline is the ONE UNIT that needs the most reps to get it down regardless of what system you are running. But they have been disapppointing.
Couple that with the fact that our starting WR’s in game one were DHB and a guys named Streator who had never played an NFL game, along with a unhearalded Brandon Myers and you had defenses keying on McFadden. And rightfully so. Which brings us to Knapp. Knapp force fed the ball to McFadden which did not work well at all.
So, whaa happens now? Well, with Moore now in there, and DHB healthy and the return signing of Hagan, the WR corp is no longer something other teams can take for granted. Especially with the emergence of Myers and now Ausberry is beginning to look good. The team has to get out of its “run first” kind of mode, into using the pass to set up the running game.
But I know what you are thinking. So, what’s with the criticism of McFadden then? Watch his runs. He takes a two yard dive like 80% of the time. He is NOT running hard. When he does run hard, he is VERY effective. And you can blame it any way you want but that is fact. The tape clearly shows it. And if that is not enough, the last four games McFadden has had more drops than receptions in the passing game. That’s HARD TO DO. And Goodson has played well. Very well.
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Pretty spot on analysis.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Again, that is one of the advantages of the zone scheme. Running lanes, not crashing into defenders at the POA
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interesting so your argument suggests a rb can have a longer shelf life with the zbs….
October 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Goodson had a couple of good runs last week in the ZBS. It will work. My prediction:
Raiders 35
Jacksonville 13
DMC/Goodson combine for over 200 yds rushing
October 18th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Pretty spot on analysis.
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I try.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Actually McFaddens best year was under Cables zone scheme.
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thats only because he was relatively healthy that year, WOULD HAVE crushed that mark had he stayed healthy last year and you and everyone else knows it and if you claim you dont your in denial.
=======================================
Again, that is one of the advantages of the zone scheme. Running lanes, not crashing into defenders at the POA. And in one of his runs in the lst quarter last game, the Raiders called a very simple guard trap play. 66 pulled was running down field, and McFadden cut right into the DT standing there. Why he didn’t follow the guard which EVERY back is taught starting in Pop Warner is beyond me.
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Agreed. I dont see a problem with the scheme.
If it isnt DMC running into the wrong lane, its a blocker getting blown up, or a ref throwing a flag on the plays that do work.
DMC needs to buy in. If a player never buys in, then they will NEVER succeed. No matter what. Maybe he has bought in and he’s legitimately struggling despite having faith in the system. Fine, I can live with that. But he needs to step up and get with it, as do his blockers.
Ive said it before and I’ll say it again, RB’s need to get in a rythmn just like any other skill position player. DMC just hasnt found his rhythmn yet.
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If its not the scheme why was DMAC on pace for 2k yards and now he’s on pace for what? barely a 1000? which is no longer impressive btw. and if its not the scheme and its “RHYTHM” Why does goodson look so much better in the zbs? in my line of thought maybe goodson is a better zbs rb than Dmac. crazy logic huh?
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A different scheme wont prevent DMC from that fumble against Atlanta. Just like it didnt prevent him from fumbling against Buffalo last year.
A different scheme isnt going to make Wiz 2.0 a better center. He and others, are simply getting beat physically. It’s that simple.
Our O-Line simply hasnt played well. Some of the pieces are the same, but they are mostly playing different positions. Veldheer hasnt been as good, Wiz should be back at LG, we should have kept Satelle, Brisel has been VERY inconsistent, and Willie Smith is learning on the job.
And lets not forget, a new scheme isnt going to get the refs off our back. We thought we had a chance with Al dying, but the night and day difference between the replacements and the real refs is proof positive that nothing will ever change for this team with regards to the refs. We have to be EXCELLENT to overcome them. The only time we overcame the refs in the modern era is when this team accepted the fact that the refs are out to get us and the team didnt wilt in the face of it, but used it to motivate them like we did in ‘02 after the tuck job. This team needs to stop with the “why us” “poor me” attitude and just accept it for what it is and overcome like a bunch of badda55es. It’s time to man up.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
I think my HUGE criticism of McFadden is, if you can’t get going in one aspect of your game, get going in another aspect of your game. Like a baseball player who makes some great defensive plays if the stick isn’t working. If McFadden can’t run the ball effectively, McFadden HAS TO get the passing game going. Even that has failed miserably. That’s what Superstar players do, they get another aspect of their game up. Speaking of which when McFadden fumbled in the lst quarter of the Falcon game and the DE was rumbling down the field, can someone tell me who made the TD saving tackle?
October 18th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
A different scheme wont prevent DMC from that fumble against Atlanta. Just like it didnt prevent him from fumbling against Buffalo last year.
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OK sports fans, this should have been a Falcon TD. Who was the player that sucked it up and took down their defensive linemen?
October 18th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Why does goodson look so much better in the zbs? in my line of thought maybe goodson is a better zbs rb than Dmac. crazy logic huh?
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What every single coach at every level will tell you: Goodson is hitting the hole harder and faster. Very simple.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
mistic—These qb didnt win
that’s what u said.
danny white was a cowboy when they won super bowl xII…..as a punter. it was my little joke.
but u claim they didn’t win. getting to the super bowl is winning. how many black qb’s have gotten there?
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please ban this trash bin diving hilbilly. What the hell do rormo, palmer, danny white stan humpries or neil lomax have to do with black qb?!?!?!
this dude is a racist piece of trash.
Im comparing romo and palmer this dude is still looking for racial make up.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
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October 18th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
I think my HUGE criticism of McFadden is, if you can’t get going in one aspect of your game, get going in another aspect of your game. Like a baseball player who makes some great defensive plays if the stick isn’t working. If McFadden can’t run the ball effectively, McFadden HAS TO get the passing game going. Even that has failed miserably. That’s what Superstar players do, they get another aspect of their game up. Speaking of which when McFadden fumbled in the lst quarter of the Falcon game and the DE was rumbling down the field, can someone tell me who made the TD saving tackle?
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I dont agree with this post.
DMC has made some great catches in the passing game, (and dropped a huge one against Miami).
He made a TD saving tackle after the Palmer fumble.
He has been very effective in picking up the blitz.
DMC’s enthusiasm has been there. He’s trying. Im not blasting the guy for his effort, just his execution.
Once he finds his rythymn, we will see some big games. But its going to take everyone to do their part for that rythmn to come.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
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October 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
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October 18th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
=========================================
I can tell you exactly what it is. lst off, Wisniewski is not playing very well at center. Neither are the two guards. That triangle has not been very effective. Now again, you are putting in a completely new scheme with completely new players, and the Oline is the ONE UNIT that needs the most reps to get it down regardless of what system you are running. But they have been disapppointing.
Couple that with the fact that our starting WR’s in game one were DHB and a guys named Streator who had never played an NFL game, along with a unhearalded Brandon Myers and you had defenses keying on McFadden. And rightfully so. Which brings us to Knapp. Knapp force fed the ball to McFadden which did not work well at all.
So, whaa happens now? Well, with Moore now in there, and DHB healthy and the return signing of Hagan, the WR corp is no longer something other teams can take for granted. Especially with the emergence of Myers and now Ausberry is beginning to look good. The team has to get out of its “run first” kind of mode, into using the pass to set up the running game.
But I know what you are thinking. So, what’s with the criticism of McFadden then? Watch his runs. He takes a two yard dive like 80% of the time. He is NOT running hard. When he does run hard, he is VERY effective. And you can blame it any way you want but that is fact. The tape clearly shows it. And if that is not enough, the last four games McFadden has had more drops than receptions in the passing game. That’s HARD TO DO. And Goodson has played well. Very well.
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Raider Riff Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
eastoaklandraider,
so WHAT IS the difference between last year and this year bush? is the oline? is it the zbs? is it knapp?
or does DMAC just all of a sudden suck?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
not sure
——————–
From what Ive seen…
Our O-Line play is worse. It’s been reshuffled and not identical to the past. But regardless, some of the players just arent playing as good.
Play calling is different. Im not talking about the difference in scheme, Im talking the difference in actual in game play calling. Knapp can scheme and call plays just fine. But Hue was/is one of the best in the league at in-game play calls. Catching a D off-guard. Hue’s play calling aided our O-Line.
And we’ve just made to many mistakes. We’ve handicapped our coaching staff in many ways. Reece fumbling the reverse to Taiwan, dropped passes, in-excusible fumbles, and occasional poor WR play are all factors that affect everything.
The bottom line is that it isnt just ONE single thing. It’s a domino effect.
Perfectly timed flags by the refs dont help. Neither does DMC’s poor lane and pace choice. You cant ignore the fact that Goodson has no problem in this system and DMC struggles on the same plays. Some of that has to do with the fact that the D expects a pass when Goodson is in the backfield, credit what I said about the playcalling earlier. But some of it also has to do with Goodsons patience and field vision. It’s simply been better than DMC.
We’ve been a block here and there away from a lot more big runs by DMC. The line has to step up and be more consistent.
Like I said, it isnt just one thing.
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Both very good post and I agree with some of both. My thoughts are the same as ever, Knapp and HIS zbs (not what thexans and what the donks ran for years with kubiak) sucks, the Oline is basically the same from last year with the exception of Brisel who btw was supposed to be an upgrade (jury still out on that) IMHO it is def the scheme Veldeer and Wiz are power blockers which is why their play has slipped same can be said for barnes. coop no doubt is a zbs guy along with Brisel but if two thirds of your Oline are power blockers that should tell you what the problem is right there the zbs doesnt fit them thus their regression thus Dmacs regression. And as for Dmac not running hard maybe he’s already checked out knowing this isnt gonna work for him. and as for goodson doing better you said it riff D’s arent keying on him when he enters the game thus more lanes to pick from. it is a domino affect our being able to run last year aided our Oline in pass protecting from the threat of a run now that is no longer the oline has regressed in pass protection also.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
I dont agree with this post.
DMC has made some great catches in the passing game, (and dropped a huge one against Miami).
He made a TD saving tackle after the Palmer fumble.
He has been very effective in picking up the blitz.
DMC’s enthusiasm has been there. He’s trying. Im not blasting the guy for his effort, just his execution.
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Don’t get me wrong. I like McFadden. But the results have just not been there. His best play this season other than the long TD run, was the tackle that saved the TD in the last game. THAT, was a GREAT play.
And the answer to the question: who made the TD saving tackle on McFadden’s fumble early in the last game? Carson Palmer. THAT’S what Superstars do.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Veldheer was drafted by Cable as a ZBS guy.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Both very good post and I agree with some of both. My thoughts are the same as ever, Knapp and HIS zbs (not what thexans and what the donks ran for years with kubiak) sucks, the Oline is basically the same from last year with the exception of Brisel who btw was supposed to be an upgrade (jury still out on that) IMHO it is def the scheme Veldeer and Wiz are power blockers which is why their play has slipped same can be said for barnes. coop no doubt is a zbs guy along with Brisel but if two thirds of your Oline are power blockers that should tell you what the problem is right there the zbs doesnt fit them thus their regression thus Dmacs regression. And as for Dmac not running hard maybe he’s already checked out knowing this isnt gonna work for him. and as for goodson doing better you said it riff D’s arent keying on him when he enters the game thus more lanes to pick from. it is a domino affect our being able to run last year aided our Oline in pass protecting from the threat of a run now that is no longer the oline has regressed in pass protection also.
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I dont know if DMC has “checked out”. I would guess he hasnt. The effort has been there. He doesnt run down that DE and save a TD if he had “checked out” already.
And lets stop acting like our O-Line is “basically” the same as last year. It isnt. Wiz is playing a DIFFERENT position. Coop crossed that threshold and is officially a year too old to play this game. Veldheer is the only guy in the same position and he has regressed slightly. Willie Smith is new. The jury is definitely in on Brisel, he’s been poor to mediocre at best.
A different system wouldnt fix what ails us. I know it seems convenient and simple to just blame the scheme, but its not what is really going on.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
We need this game real bad,we need the players and coaches on top of their game.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
I thought McFadden showed a lot more patience behind the line this past weekend. That directly translated to him running the ball MUCH better. Yes, I’m factoring in the runs that were called back in how he looked overall.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
mistic—LOL! ur such a tool. EVERYONE here knows all u talk about is black qb’s and how they are the “wave of the future” and how palmer and any white qb who hasn’t won a super bowl basically sucks. u try to claim u like some other white guys now and then but it’s basically the manning, rodgers, brady, etc. the guys who have won way too much and would make u look totally foolish if u dissed. but u go on and on about cam newton, who has never won anything and has struggled badly this year, simultaneously saying palmer sucks, when he has outplayed newton (and vick). calling me racist is hilarious. just look at how i ripped fangs last night. ur a blog joke with only ONE topic, simliar to beeech and sulivan. must be tuff being a black panther when they don’t really exist anymore.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
who played better in Hues scheme:
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
Moore
DHB
who’s play has regressed under knapps scheme :
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
DHB
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this is not a coincidence folks.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
And lets stop acting like our O-Line is “basically” the same as last year
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Yeah, I don’t get that argument at all.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
who played better in Hues scheme:
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
Moore
DHB
Reece
who’s play has regressed under knapps scheme :
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
DHB
Reece
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this is not a coincidence folks.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
I dont agree with this post.
DMC has made some great catches in the passing game, (and dropped a huge one against Miami).
He made a TD saving tackle after the Palmer fumble.
He has been very effective in picking up the blitz.
DMC’s enthusiasm has been there. He’s trying. Im not blasting the guy for his effort, just his execution.
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Don’t get me wrong. I like McFadden. But the results have just not been there.
THAT’S what Superstars do.
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And it is exactly what DMC did.
And it’s exactly what he did when he picked that screen pass up off his toe nails and took it for 20 on the game tying drive at the end.
Agreed, the overall production hasnt been there, but we’ve already rehashed over and over why that is, and it certainly isnt for lack of talent or effort on DMC’s part.
These guys watch the film and it dont lie. DMC is in that film room, its hard to “check out” of a system when the tape shows that it would work if he had made a cut here or there, or Meyers wasnt getting thrown into the backfield, or if our Guards could do a decent pull and make their block.
This is simple stuff we are getting beat at.
Stay faithful in DMC. He’s been part of the problem, but he will get it right at some point and we shouldnt dog him nearly as much as the other guys who arent pulling their weight. At least with DMC, we know what he is capable of.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
. Yes, I’m factoring in the runs that were called back in how he looked overall.
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as you should, it woulda been the 2nd 100 yrd game of the season if not for the refs. this game will be the tell tale sign if we’re a contender:
1: will be able to run the ball this year
2: can our D actually stop the run
3: can CP make sure we beat an inferior team
October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
inonewordraider—congrats on ur entry into the gayest blog party ever. don’t let all the pretend talk about strippers cover up the real agenda–talking about weiners, nads, pubes, dumps, etc. i’m sure ur very proud to get the inside dope about another guy’s gay fantasies. u go boy!
October 18th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
I thought McFadden showed a lot more patience behind the line this past weekend. That directly translated to him running the ball MUCH better. Yes, I’m factoring in the runs that were called back in how he looked overall.
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Agreed. He’s getting better.
When it all clicks we are going to rush for 250+ yards a game easy. Our line and TE’s have to start doing the simple stuff. No more fumbles. No more dropped passes.
Im not asking for the impossible. Just 60 minutes of pro-caliber football.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
u go boy!
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u go boy is a play off you go girl which is said by women, thus making it about the gayest comment you can make. i have no problem with the gays just sayin
October 18th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
. Yes, I’m factoring in the runs that were called back in how he looked overall.
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as you should, it woulda been the 2nd 100 yrd game of the season if not for the refs. this game will be the tell tale sign if we’re a contender:
1: will be able to run the ball this year
2: can our D actually stop the run
3: can CP make sure we beat an inferior team
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Yep.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
inonewordraider—congrats on ur entry into the gayest blog party ever. don’t let all the pretend talk about strippers cover up the real agenda–talking about weiners, nads, pubes, dumps, etc. i’m sure ur very proud to get the inside dope about another guy’s gay fantasies. u go boy!
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Haha, Nob Bust melting down over not being invited to join the PMPP
Jealous much, Nob? Thought so
HOLLA BACK MO DIZZLES
October 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I dont know if DMC has “checked out”. I would guess he hasnt. The effort has been there. He doesnt run down that DE and save a TD if he had “checked out” already.
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I don’t think McFadden has “checked out”. In fact I know he hasn’t. But I don’t think he has completely “bought in” either. And I also know for a fact that the org is not going to completely change the direction and the way they think for one player. With the zone system the org should “theoretically” be able to put any back in there and get results, not have to draft Olinemen incredibly highly, which in both cases will save on cap money and high draft picks. They are not going to abandon that philosophy because one guy has not bought in. They will just get rid of that one guy.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
who played better in Hues scheme:
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
Moore
DHB
Reece
who’s play has regressed under knapps scheme :
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
DHB
Reece
————
this is not a coincidence folks.
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I would agree.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Veldheer was drafted by Cable as a ZBS guy.
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Veldeer was drafted by Al Davis
October 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I dont know if DMC has “checked out”. I would guess he hasnt. The effort has been there. He doesnt run down that DE and save a TD if he had “checked out” already.
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I don’t think McFadden has “checked out”. In fact I know he hasn’t. But I don’t think he has completely “bought in” either. And I also know for a fact that the org is not going to completely change the direction and the way they think for one player. With the zone system the org should “theoretically” be able to put any back in there and get results, not have to draft Olinemen incredibly highly, which in both cases will save on cap money and high draft picks. They are not going to abandon that philosophy because one guy has not bought in. They will just get rid of that one guy.
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Maybe he hasnt fully bought in, maybe he has. Either way, the way things have gone would shake anyones confidence. I think its safe to say his swagger and confidence isnt there.
That is why Im calling for the rest of the guys to start doing their jobs on a consistent basis so he can find that rythm/swagger again.
In an ideal world, we stick with DMC despite the fact that this system is supposed to work with an average back. Because this system with DMC running it well pretty much makes us unbeatable if the D halfway shows up in the 2nd half.
Again, Im not asking for the impossible, just 60 consecutive minutes of pro-caliber play.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I think the offense needs 1 more playmaker at WR like D Moore.
DHB and Hagan are “good” but we need better than that to take it to the next level.
I think Ausberry could actually that threat, but I don’t see us going 2 TEs.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
oh yeah Myers has also played better under knapp go figure.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
u go boy!
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u go boy is a play off you go girl which is said by women, thus making it about the gayest comment you can make. i have no problem with the gays just sayin
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duh. i was pretty much making a gay joke. which is right up ur new gang’s alley. ur new master will be daily giving u updates on all of his bodily functions. it’s a good thing u made such an effort to impress him. congrats!
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doc Nob gets less happy by the day.
I vote we let him fill up the PARTYDUDE 8000.
If he does a good job he can help unkoolKell serve those little sandwiches at the PMPP party
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Again, Im not asking for the impossible, just 60 consecutive minutes of pro-caliber play.
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Exactly. And one of the things I have been harking on all offseason is rookie coaches are going to make rookie mistakes just like rookie players will. I have seen enough of that already from the staff to last the rest of the season. The half time adjustments have been dull at best. That is not going to help the players at all.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I think the offense needs 1 more playmaker at WR like D Moore.
DHB and Hagan are “good” but we need better than that to take it to the next level.
I think Ausberry could actually that threat, but I don’t see us going 2 TEs.
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Aus should be starting imo.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
inonewordraider—congrats on ur entry into the gayest blog party ever. don’t let all the pretend talk about strippers cover up the real agenda–talking about weiners, nads, pubes, dumps, etc. i’m sure ur very proud to get the inside dope about another guy’s gay fantasies. u go boy!
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Haha, Nob Bust melting down over not being invited to join the PMPP
Jealous much, Nob? Thought so
HOLLA BACK MO DIZZLES
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hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
i never mentioned ur name beeech. i mentioned a gay party and u immediately assumed i was talking about u. not interested. sorry. u go ahead and play by urself.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
who played better in Hues scheme:
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
Moore
DHB
Reece
who’s play has regressed under knapps scheme :
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
DHB
Reece
————
this is not a coincidence folks.
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I would agree.
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I wouldnt.
- Barnes was every bit the train wreck with Hue that he is now.
- Wiz was playing a different position
- Moore hasnt regressed
- DHB hasnt regressed either, he dropped passes he should catch before, he still does it
- People were never happy with the way Reece was used before, and according to Palmer, Reece is getting mugged. What is Knapp supposed to do about that?
People are so quick to forget how we folded the past two seasons down the stretch. Maybe for once we are going to play better at the end of the year than the beginning? Either way, we were a 1-4 at the end of last season, we are a 1-4 team now. That isnt regression. That is actually progression considering our D is better, we have no run game, and we are less talented than last year.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Brahs, only 4 short hours until my girl Miley arrives at the Beeech Pad Penthouse for a night of pleasure and intimacy
I’m hoping she’s rockin’ that Bridgette Neilson short platinum cut, ahhh yeah
Pretty sure I’ll be doing red carpets and Cannes soon, she’ll be backstage during the Wrecks N Effect tour drinking Moet Chandon
Gotta get my pube do TIGHT for tonight, thinking I’ll gel it up with with a little Arby’s Horsey Sauce
ROAST BEEF WITH MY ROAST BEAST
October 18th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doc Nob gets less happy by the day.
I vote we let him fill up the PARTYDUDE 8000.
If he does a good job he can help unkoolKell serve those little sandwiches at the PMPP party
***************
hahahahahha!!!!!!!!!
what a toadie. he thinks he’s having a party right now and he’s licking beeech’s balls. what a man.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I think the offense needs 1 more playmaker at WR like D Moore.
DHB and Hagan are “good” but we need better than that to take it to the next level.
I think Ausberry could actually that threat, but I don’t see us going 2 TEs.
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If Aus can block without getting blown up, he’d be an instant improvement. I hate Meyers’ blocking at the moment.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I think the offense needs 1 more playmaker at WR like D Moore.
DHB and Hagan are “good” but we need better than that to take it to the next level.
I think Ausberry could actually that threat, but I don’t see us going 2 TEs.
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That guy has to be Marcel Reece. Reece is a superstar waiting to blow up. But teams have been keying on him especially in big situations so others HAVE to come to the forefront. That’s what we have not seen enough of.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Brahs, only 4 short hours until my girl Miley arrives at the Beeech Pad Penthouse for a night of pleasure and intimacy
I’m hoping she’s rockin’ that Bridgette Neilson short platinum cut, ahhh yeah
Pretty sure I’ll be doing red carpets and Cannes soon, she’ll be backstage during the Wrecks N Effect tour drinking Moet Chandon
Gotta get my pube do TIGHT for tonight, thinking I’ll gel it up with with a little Arby’s Horsey Sauce
ROAST BEEF WITH MY ROAST BEAST
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of course u want the bridgitte nielsen hair. looks more like a man that way. i’m sure ur miley look-alike from the tranny club will be there soon. he may be 6′4″ but that’s a beeech party!
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Again, Im not asking for the impossible, just 60 consecutive minutes of pro-caliber play.
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Exactly. And one of the things I have been harking on all offseason is rookie coaches are going to make rookie mistakes just like rookie players will. I have seen enough of that already from the staff to last the rest of the season. The half time adjustments have been dull at best. That is not going to help the players at all.
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What half time adjustments do you want? We’ve gone into each half of each game in a winnable position. Our scheme and preparation was working, our players werent. You dont just scrap a weeks worth of gameplanning at halftime. That doesnt happen in the NFL, especially early in the season when everything hasnt been installed yet.
If the plays are there but the players are f’n up, you keep calling those plays and stay the course. No alternative playbook is going to make us play more physical at the POA, catch easy balls, not fumble, and not commit dumb penalties.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Again, Im not asking for the impossible, just 60 consecutive minutes of pro-caliber play.
============================================
Exactly. And one of the things I have been harking on all offseason is rookie coaches are going to make rookie mistakes just like rookie players will. I have seen enough of that already from the staff to last the rest of the season. The half time adjustments have been dull at best. That is not going to help the players at all.
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wasnt that the knock on Hue? He was a ROOKIE coach with no offseason no Dmac for most of the season and a qb off the couch midway through the season AND Chuck B as his DC. Hue did a helluva job for a ROOKIE HC imo under those circumstances.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
the only thing more pathetic than beeech himself is these toadie tools who wanna be his puppets. hilarious. what man would want that? hahahahhahahha!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Maybe for once we are going to play better at the end of the year than the beginning?
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THAT’S what the GREAT Raider teams did!
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Rolando McClain on Romanowski:
“I don’t keep up with what people say outside here. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion,” McClain said. “I’m sure if I knew him, I could say things about him. I don’t. I don’t righteously care.”
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Come on Cheese! Just shut up and listen to the guy who has been to 5 Super Bowls.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
the only thing more pathetic than beeech himself is these toadie tools who wanna be his puppets. hilarious. what man would want that? hahahahhahahha!!!!!!!!
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Guys who go to fifth base on lil biachi.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
if beeech listed me as one of his gang, i think it would be enuff to make me kill myself. what man gets happy about hearing his stories and comes to his defense? hahahahhahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Again, Im not asking for the impossible, just 60 consecutive minutes of pro-caliber play.
============================================
Exactly. And one of the things I have been harking on all offseason is rookie coaches are going to make rookie mistakes just like rookie players will. I have seen enough of that already from the staff to last the rest of the season. The half time adjustments have been dull at best. That is not going to help the players at all.
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wasnt that the knock on Hue? He was a ROOKIE coach with no offseason no Dmac for most of the season and a qb off the couch midway through the season AND Chuck B as his DC. Hue did a helluva job for a ROOKIE HC imo under those circumstances.
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We all agree with you on this. Hue didnt get himself fired for his lack of coaching skills or rookie mistakes. He could have been a good coach for us.
He overplayed his hand and put Mark in a tough spot that got himself fired. End of story, lets move on.
Even Hue wanted to gut this team of the scholarships. He had the same problems Knapp is having, players have to SHOW UP when it counts.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Its been a few days and I have come down from the Koolaid cloud but I still say thats the best the team has looked in a long time.
Keep getting turnovers on D and get DMAC cycled back on and we can beat anyone in the NFL. By the end of the season all the haters will have to drink koolaid with xtra sugar
October 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doc Nob gets less happy by the day.
I vote we let him fill up the PARTYDUDE 8000.
If he does a good job he can help unkoolKell serve those little sandwiches at the PMPP party
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These are excellent ideas, Plunk.
It’ll give Nob hope, which, as you know, always leads to huge laughs for us
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
October 18th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
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wasnt that the knock on Hue? He was a ROOKIE coach with no offseason no Dmac for most of the season and a qb off the couch midway through the season AND Chuck B as his DC. Hue did a helluva job for a ROOKIE HC imo under those circumstances.
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The issues with Jackson were SO many. His clock management was pathetic, the team would get out coached in the second half of games, he could not do anything to fix the defense, his team played .200 ball with the season on the line. It’s not like the Dungver game where at the start of the second half Palmer completes a pass for a clear lst down that Allen does not challenge the spot. We punt, they score, we get rolled. That was probably a rookie mistake, that Allen corrected in the last game when he challenged an ATL reception that went for a lst.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
dr_robert Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
if beeech listed me as one of his gang, i think it would be enuff to make me kill myself. what man gets happy about hearing his stories and comes to his defense? hahahahhahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nob Bust, might I suggest using a few more exclamation points after hahaha, so we’ll know you’re really laughing super hard?
Oh yeah and please continue to hilariously melt down for our enjoyment, honestly we can’t get enough
PMPP IN THE HIZZY
October 18th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Veldheer was drafted by Cable as a ZBS guy.
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Al Davis drafted Veldheer
October 18th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doc Nob gets less happy by the day.
I vote we let him fill up the PARTYDUDE 8000.
If he does a good job he can help unkoolKell serve those little sandwiches at the PMPP party
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These are excellent ideas, Plunk.
It’ll give Nob hope, which, as you know, always leads to huge laughs for us
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
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We can have Doc Slob clean the bowl after A few deuces have dumped. Im sure he will enjoy it since we know he is another Tom Cruise movie away from coming out of the closet
October 18th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
We can have Doc Slob clean the bowl after A few deuces have dumped. Im sure he will enjoy it since we know he is another Tom Cruise movie away from coming out of the closet
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STFU
October 18th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doc Nob gets less happy by the day.
I vote we let him fill up the PARTYDUDE 8000.
If he does a good job he can help unkoolKell serve those little sandwiches at the PMPP party
————-
These are excellent ideas, Plunk.
It’ll give Nob hope, which, as you know, always leads to huge laughs for us
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
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so now this fool wants to pretend i want to be in his gang, and then he wants to have fun talking about how he won’t let me be in it. how much of a fantasy world is this guy in?
congrats plunkethead. u two will make a great couple.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
who played better in Hues scheme:
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
Moore
DHB
Reece
who’s play has regressed under knapps scheme :
Dmac
Veldeer
Wiz
Barnes
DHB
Reece
————
this is not a coincidence folks.
=======================================
I would agree.
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I wouldnt.
- Barnes was every bit the train wreck with Hue that he is now.
- Wiz was playing a different position
- Moore hasnt regressed
- DHB hasnt regressed either, he dropped passes he should catch before, he still does it
- People were never happy with the way Reece was used before, and according to Palmer, Reece is getting mugged. What is Knapp supposed to do about that?
People are so quick to forget how we folded the past two seasons down the stretch. Maybe for once we are going to play better at the end of the year than the beginning? Either way, we were a 1-4 at the end of last season, we are a 1-4 team now. That isnt regression. That is actually progression considering our D is better, we have no run game, and we are less talented than last year.
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barnes played much better last year
Wiz also played center last year, my how we forget.
Moore name wasnt under the regressed list,read te entire post.
DHB had almost 1000 yds last year wont be close this year.
and I guess Reece just magicaly started getting mugged this year.
And ONCE AGAIN the BUFF,DEN.DET,SD games werent Hues fault those games are on chuck B= 12-4 FELLAS.
But I know Hue Was the HC he is supposed to see over the whole team!!! Well if that were true TAKE THAT SB BACK FROM GRUDEN IT BELONGS TO DUNGY AND MONTE KIFFIN TAKE THAT SB AWAY FROM BILL BILLICK AND GIVE IT TO MARVIN LEWIS.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doc Nob gets less happy by the day.
I vote we let him fill up the PARTYDUDE 8000.
If he does a good job he can help unkoolKell serve those little sandwiches at the PMPP party
————-
These are excellent ideas, Plunk.
It’ll give Nob hope, which, as you know, always leads to huge laughs for us
PMPP N FULL EFFECT
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We can have Doc Slob clean the bowl after A few deuces have dumped. Im sure he will enjoy it since we know he is another Tom Cruise movie away from coming out of the closet
***************
isn’t it funny that suddenly, all of beeech’s friends arrive to defend him?
hahhahahahhahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did u just say i was gay? and ur the one who loves to hear about beeech’s dumps and ur talking about it now.
oh beeech. u stupid stupid boy. all ur alter egos can’t hide the fact u ave no friends and are the gayest poster ever seen.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
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wasnt that the knock on Hue? He was a ROOKIE coach with no offseason no Dmac for most of the season and a qb off the couch midway through the season AND Chuck B as his DC. Hue did a helluva job for a ROOKIE HC imo under those circumstances.
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The issues with Jackson were SO many. His clock management was pathetic, the team would get out coached in the second half of games, he could not do anything to fix the defense, his team played .200 ball with the season on the line. It’s not like the Dungver game where at the start of the second half Palmer completes a pass for a clear lst down that Allen does not challenge the spot. We punt, they score, we get rolled. That was probably a rookie mistake, that Allen corrected in the last game when he challenged an ATL reception that went for a lst.
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Yeah but hue had our O ranked 9th what is it now?
October 18th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
as we all know, beeech posts as several guys during the day, and then slips into the beeech role when he wants to go super gay. this loser has to be the most friendless d-bag on the world!
October 18th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Even if Hue was the greatest coach to ever grace the game it would not matter.
You could line up every single person in the East bay and they could all say Hue should not have been fired and it would not matter
Hue is gone. Get over it Besides
DAILY REMINDER
Cable coached circles around Jackson
October 18th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RAIDERS!
October 21st, 2012 at 11:04 am
The Prediction Board:
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
C2E Says: Raiders 30-17
Dan78 Says: Raiders 24 Jaguars 17
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 35 Jacksonville 13
qodrn: Raiders 27, Jags 20
SilverNBlackPA Says: Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17
Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10