Examining the beloved `prevent’ defense
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 19th, 2012 at 9:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
My dad died more than four years ago, but even he knew the only thing the `prevent’ defense actually prevented was winning.
He used to ask me about it all the time. Here was a 60- and eventually 70- something accountant who could never comprehend how NFL coaches would go balls-to-the-wall all day and then meekly surrender and let an inferior opponent drive for the winning points.
I miss him terribly, but I said the same thing then as I do now _ they wouldn’t be employing that kind of strategy if there wasn’t a good reason for it.
For what it’s worth, Raiders coach Dennis Allen, a relative youngster in the head coaching profession at age 40, said he’s never even once heard the term `prevent’ during a meeting.
Still, what possible excuse could there be for employing a strategy that is so universally reviled outside of the coaching profession?
– It works more than you think it does.
– It’s a better option than blitzing the quarterback, then allowing a receiver to run free and catch a long one for a sure-thing field goal attempt or touchdown.
Coaches with skin thick enough to understand this shrug off the criticism. I was pretty impressed with how Raiders defensive coordinator Jason Tarver dealt with the issue this week after the Atlanta Falcons moved into position for a 55-yard field goal.
The easiest thing in the world is to sit back on a couch with a beverage and say you should have blitzed.
But I remember the Raiders giving up a key third-and-long to the Chiefs in Arrowhead once _ it helped lead to a loss _ where an inactive Rich Gannon approached and suggested I should be damn well be asking the defensive coordinator about how he could have called such a thing.
Defensive coordinators were off limits at the time, so the question went unasked that day.
Yet it illustrated the point that the calls aren’t nearly as important as the players who are supposed to carry out the mission. In theory, every play works.
In the Raiders loss to the Falcons, Allen said the Raiders used only three rushers twice on the final drive. Tarver cited a big completion to Roddy White the previous week against Carolina and not wanting to duplicate that error.
The Raiders pressured on some downs, backed off on some others, and in the end Gonzalez made a catch deep enough in Raiders territory to set up Bryant’s game-winner. A 55-yard field goal was a tossup at best, yet the end result was as if it was a 25-yard chip shot.
The unexciting truth _ no defense brings the heat every down because it doesn’t make sense. They study this stuff a lot more than the guy sitting on the couch or the media member at his computer. It’s their livelihood.
Success is determined as it always has been _ through execution of a plan rather than the design of the plan.
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October 19th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Wow, so you are telling me that the coaches probably no more than the people who post on here?
Who knew!!!!!!!
October 19th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
If Bryant misses the 55 yard FG, the Raiders D would have had praise heaped on them for holding them to such a long kick, a week after they went from their 1 yard line, with no timeouts, less time on the clock and got a closer kick.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
anyone seen beechy dawg?
October 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Wow, so you are telling me that the coaches probably no more than the people who post on here?
Who knew!!!!!!!
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What could Jerry be thinking.LMAO
October 19th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Wow. Jerry defending the Prevent Defense………..or, playing PR.?
October 19th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The prevent is the dumbest D ever in the NFL…
The great John Madden said it best” The prevent, prevents you from winning”.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Sorry Jerry,
You are wrong here….and so was the Coaching Staff….
“The unexciting truth _ no defense brings the heat every down because it doesn’t make sense. They study this stuff a lot more than the guy sitting on the couch or the media member at his computer. It’s their livelihood.”
Just because someone is sitting on their couch has nothing to do with it….
Was it a big deal the Raiders didn’t bring heat? No.
Was it a big deal that they only rushed 4 men the final two Offensive Snaps? Most Definitely YES.
The thing is…..blitzing (bringing a 5th man) or deciding to only bring 3 is a HUGE difference….
The fact is….the Raiders should have brought 4…they did not….
SO THE LOSS GOES DOWN AS A COACHING MISTAKE!
But you know what?
Our inexperienced staff doesn’t have the stones to admit it….they would rather let their Veteran QB take the blame and tell him how cool of a guy he is…..
What a JOKE!
October 19th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
We lost, but it was perhaps the best-played game thus season.
Back to lurking….
October 19th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
You have a that has been getting hit all day, and you call off the dogs…That is dumb as hell, imo…
October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RAIDER NATION….there is no point in listening to the BLOG writers anymore this season…..they have been paid off…
You want the truth….
Just listen to ME!
Sell crazy someplace else Jerry….your career is headed downhill….your effort is not enough without an objective viewpoint….
October 19th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
You have a QB that has been getting hit all day, you give him time to be comfortable, and move the ball…
Dumb azz move…keep attackin hiz azz…
October 19th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Was it a big deal that they only rushed 4 men the final two Offensive Snaps? Most Definitely YES.
Should read only rushed 3 men!
October 19th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RAIDER NATION….there is no point in listening to the BLOG writers anymore this season…..they have been paid off…
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Man i don’t come in hear for th writers blog.
I enjoy reading the post from the Semi’s thst’whats up.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
You have a QB that has been getting hit all day, you give him time to be comfortable, and move the ball…
Dumb azz move…keep attackin hiz azz…
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Like the Panthers did the week before?
Matt Ryan leads the NFL in comeback wins since he came into the league, and has almost a 90% winning percentage at home.
There is nothing ANYONE IN THE NFL has proven to be able to do in that situation, but hold them to a FG attempt and hope the kicker misses.
We have an almost 4 year sample size to look at.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I agree with backstagepuppetshow on several counts.
It is a joke the coaching staff using Palmer to deflect the blame of themselves, and advertising how cool he is. Especially when all year the coaching staff have been totally adverse to admitting they have done anything wrong scheme-wise, play-calling-wise, personnel-wise, etc, and deflecting blame on the players for any lack of production.
And secondly, how the blog writers have been ‘paid off’. Not literally, but it appears that they do engage in unofficial damage-control, shills for the ‘company’ line in regards to things like Terrelle Pryor’s inactivity, the lack of Reece use, the post-game smiling and laughing with Fox, etc.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
backdoor puppet is gay. I can tell.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Good post. I was upset about the defense too but in the end, it was the safe strategy. A 55-yard FG is not a gimme.
There needs to be some balance, though. If there’s not much time left, I can understand the strategy. If there’s enough time to take what the D allows and march all the way down, chunking off 10 yards at a time, I don’t agree with it.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I said it on here before the drive started.
Our only hope was a tipped pass/deflection that we could pick.
Almost got it on one play, but Gio was late and the deflection didn’t get enough air under it.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I will give the writer’s a little credit for asking the tough questions…..the problem I have is “WHEN” they ask the tough questions….usually they wait until the following Thursday….the rarely ask good questions following a loss….
Perhaps this is because they don’t know what the best questions to ask might be?
Maybe they have to read their twitter feeds to learn what they should be asking?
October 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Ryan was allready seeing ghost, going into prevent was plain dumb…
Tarver and DA need a kick in the azz…Gave 1 away.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Thec – since we were discussing this the other day, the gap between Wilson and Palmer widened quite a bit, my friend. Now 8 spots between them.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
If Jerry has been “paid off” he has been for sometime, as this article is pretty much the same one he has wrote on the prevent defense for 10 years running.
You think he just wrote up a story at 10pm on Friday?
LMAO!!!
This was a copy and paste job from 2003.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
You have a QB that has been getting hit all day, you give him time to be comfortable, and move the ball…
Dumb azz move…keep attackin hiz azz…
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Like the Panthers did the week before?
Matt Ryan leads the NFL in comeback wins since he came into the league, and has almost a 90% winning percentage at home.
There is nothing ANYONE IN THE NFL has proven to be able to do in that situation, but hold them to a FG attempt and hope the kicker misses.
We have an almost 4 year sample size to look at.
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Disagree 100…You look at the lina gave vs the Raids game…Lina was not jackin ryan up nearly as much as we were… The guy was seeing ghost, and gettin hit.
The prevent is the dumbest schit you can do on D.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Thec Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Man i don’t come in hear for th writers blog.
I enjoy reading the post from the Semi’s thst’whats up.
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That was true at one point,but not so much anymore.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
backdoor puppet is gay. I can tell.
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I am a happy guy Beech…thx for noticing my friend
October 19th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I said it on here before the drive started.
Our only hope was a tipped pass/deflection that we could pick.
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Actually, we still almost held them off. Consider that if DA doesn’t call that timeout and Bryant doesn’t get off that practive kick, I’m sure it misses. Then everyone would be talking about what a genius Tarver was. lol. Oh well.
DON’T CALL THE EFFING TIMEOUT THERE!
October 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Thec – since we were discussing this the other day, the gap between Wilson and Palmer widened quite a bit, my friend. Now 8 spots between them.
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Disagree 100…Wilson is a rook…Palmer is Palmer, a avg qb that will never win a or another POG.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
When you play Matt Ryan in those situations, you have to accept some level of give.
It’s like trying to defend Lebron. If you hold him to a fadeaway 20 footer (like a 55 yard FG) you have to live with the outcome and know you did about the best you could.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Thec Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Man i don’t come in hear for th writers blog.
I enjoy reading the post from the Semi’s thst’whats up.
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That was true at one point,but not so much anymore.
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Whats good Bruh? Agree 100… I actually do not post as much. Way too much lameness with the stupid trolls, and I hate that beach, charged up guy and his non sense. I would bet most of the trolls work for the blog.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I said it on here before the drive started.
Our only hope was a tipped pass/deflection that we could pick.
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Actually, we still almost held them off. Consider that if DA doesn’t call that timeout and Bryant doesn’t get off that practive kick, I’m sure it misses. Then everyone would be talking about what a genius Tarver was. lol. Oh well.
DON’T CALL THE EFFING TIMEOUT THERE!
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Tarver prepared for and called a hell of a game up until the last drive….
Would I call him a genius? Nope…
If he was a genius he would know what he doesn’t know….and right now….he can’t admit that to himself!
October 19th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
When you play Matt Ryan in those situations, you have to accept some level of give.
It’s like trying to defend Lebron. If you hold him to a fadeaway 20 footer (like a 55 yard FG) you have to live with the outcome and know you did about the best you could.
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Good DCO’s stay on the attack.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
If I am DCO, ryan would have continued to see ghost, and would have continued to get hit in the process.
F takin the foot off the pedal, that is dumb schit.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Truth be told….
Atlanta didn’t even prepare for us last week….they spent their week making their vacation plans for their bye (this week)…..
They didn’t run anything new….they didn’t self scout….and we prepared for them for 2 weeks like our jobs depended on it….
And guess what?
It still wasn’t enough!
October 19th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Good DCO’s stay on the attack.
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55 yard FG attempt!!!!
Tarver’s D held up better than most of the league does in that situation.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Face it, tarver fked up going prevent. Keep the attack up, let the D play, why call off the dogs and let the guy get comfortable???
October 19th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
You should only rush 1-3 when it’s a literal Hail Mary situation, TD required for the win/tie.
When an opponent is looking to set up for a game-winning FG, a defense should send minimum four-man rush with a man in spy, rely on natural pressure, six DBs to cover 4-6 receivers for a ‘coverage sack’.
Obviously execution is fundamental to everything. A whole football game is three hours of individual plays where players fail to execute something on both offense, defense and special teams. But in X&O theory, a four man rush is a more ideal base to work from in those endgame situations.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
It’s like a bad dream….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YA2iJ4ZcUo
October 19th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Iteresting take, I said that atl slept on the Raids.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
On TV tonight Movie: Gridiron Gang
Hit or miss?
October 19th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
What’s interesting is that the same issue was discussed about the Eagles debacle against the Lions. With Eagles players themselves saying how the DC erred in changing the game-plan in the last 5 minutes once they had the 10 pt lead, how they took their foot off the gas, let Calvin Johnson get open playing ‘prevent’.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
F the prevent D….Goddell should ban the use of it.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Soccer club Chelsea have a new policy:
Players over 30 only get 1 year contracts.
Would this policy work for the Raiders?
October 19th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Ryan a good QB goes from having 2 secs to throw to white, jones, & gonzales to 4 plus seconds…
dumb if you ask me.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Success is determined as it always has been _ through execution of a plan rather than the design of the plan.
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Wow, sounds exactly like what Ive been preaching since day one around here.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Trepidacious Raider. Agreed. The way Mcfadden started last year and the way Palmer played the last 5 games, well, Green Bay kinda sucked, I had every confidence we’d be playing lights out on offense with Moore, Bey, Reece, and whoever. Then came Knapp and the WCO. I’m not totally disillusioned, but I’m not enjoying the growing pains or learning curve or whatever. WC O Well.
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Glad your not totally disillusioned. I am. Most certainly with the offense “scheme”.
And the prevent. Allen needs to take note of the “prevent” Fox laid on Rivers in the final 2 minutes last MNF. That’s a prevent. Our so called prevent D has lost us how many games over the years? That’s right, too many to count. The only thing the “prevent” D does is prevent you from winning.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
IMO the 3 man rush should never be used….
Why? The Offense has a minimum of 5 players they have to keep behind the Line of Scrimmage….”in theory”…..with only 3 to rush….that leaves 2 Defensive Players who have to beat a double team and only one 1 on 1 match up.
It is essentially a question of time….
Give a QB time and it doesn’t matter what coverage we are in….doesn’t matter if we are in man with 3 over the top….man with a spy and 2 over the top….quarters….
The fact is…..their is a ton of space on a football field…..the more time you give the QB….
On the 3rd and 6 play with :18 seconds left we rushed 3….and guess what? 2 of these men were defensive tackles…Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelly, and D. Bryant…good luck defending that decision Coach Tarver….
The play we subbed in Lamar Houston for Tommy Kelly and kept Seymour and Bryant on the field….
Not only did we only bring 3….but we did not use the man our General Manager brought in….#97….who….was on the sideline….
Didn’t we sign Andre Carter to rush the passer on passing downs?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
On another note I have no problem with the benching of Rolondo McClain….but IMO…I would have benched Richard Seymour first…..
Just Sayin’
October 19th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
lefty12 Says: That was true at one point,but not so much anymore.================
Nah. Same as it ever was. Large sensibility gap between AM and PM crews. If anything it’s less contentious ’cause there’s less room with the increase in silliness.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says: Atlanta didn’t even prepare for us last week. They didn’t run anything new.=========
When you’re undefeated, why try something new?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
– It’s a better option than blitzing the quarterback, then allowing a receiver to run free and catch a long one for a sure-thing field goal attempt or touchdown.
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If you don’t have good corners I suppose. Fox sure blitzed Rivers into a stupor tho. So that theory really doesn’t hold water. Try again.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Jerry….leave those of us on the couch out of it….
Why?
Simply because if you bring us into it…we are going to put a monkey wrench into “your” livelihood.
And we will make it look easy…
October 19th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says: Atlanta didn’t even prepare for us last week. They didn’t run anything new.=========
When you’re undefeated, why try something new?
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Interesting point….
October 19th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
excuses jerry…..prevent is a losers defense as witnessed last week…you dont havd to blitz but play tight man, use four dlinemen
October 19th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
DA has no business coaching
October 19th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
One thing Jer and Corks posts do point out: If you read between the lines, we got a coaching staff that is as green as green can get. Reggie too, though some might think the green on him is from Green Bay, though I think he’s greener in the GM dept. But that OK. It’s knapp who shouldn’t be green, but he is. No clue as to the strength of his players. Just some dumb assed ZBS pipe dream.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
DA & Tarver are making rookie mistakes.
They will kickass next year.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Fox blitzed Rivers so bad in the final 2 and a half minutes, Rivers and Turner both pissed their pants. Fox was making a statement. DA, Tarver: Take note. And prepare for it. We do play them again.
Bottom line: The prevent failed as it always has.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
pipe dream…these guys skuc as coaches…
October 19th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
DA & Tarver are making rookie mistakes.
They will kickass next year.
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Glad to see you are a glass half full kinda guy. Wish I was. Also glad to see you left knapp outta the picture. He’s a vet who’s making rookie mistakes and I doubt he will be a kickass kinda OC next year.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Trepidacious Raider Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
DA & Tarver are making rookie mistakes.
They will kickass next year.
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Glad to see you are a glass half full kinda guy. Wish I was. Also glad to see you left knapp outta the picture. He’s a vet who’s making rookie mistakes and I doubt he will be a kickass kinda OC next year.
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Good spot there – leaving Knapp out was deliberate
October 19th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
NFL fantasy report says to load up CP3, Dmac, Moore and Seabass. Nice jester considering who we’re playing. Guess that’s why they call it Fantasy Football.
I wanna see a blow out game. A throttling of the Jaguars. A statement game. A real kick their ass and kick’em in the balls game. Score a lot of points from all the teams. But too many years of heart break hotel has taken root. I do expect us to win a nail biter though.
Oak 24
Jax 17
October 19th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
I don’t play fantasy football but if I did I would have Moore in there. He is due for a big game.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
October 19th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
DA & Tarver are making rookie mistakes.
They will kickass next year.
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DA and Tarver aren’t making rookie mistakes…this year has absolutely nothing to do with next year….the same as yesterday has nothing to do with today…
I have a question you might know the answer to though Kiwi….what are tickets going for this weekend?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Time for bed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpyzsd0vFw8&feature=fvwrel
October 19th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Sorry Backstage can’t answer your question.
I have to watch the Raiders from a distance and have no chance of getting to the stadium.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Oakglen says the Raiders will win because the Jags are worse than the Raiders. The Raiders are better than their record.
If we don’t fumble the reverse on opening MNF, we beat the Chargers.
If the NFL gave us the late game on the east coast like they do all the other teams, we beat Miami easily. That’s 2 wins.
You know what we did to Big Ben.
Shoulda beat the Broncos, then we’d be 4-0.
And Hotlanta got lucky. I say in our minds we are 5-0, tho our record says differently. Teams treat us like we’re a 5-0 team.
Raiders going to let the dogs out on Sunday. Yeah. You heard it here first.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
G’Nite Everyone
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RRRAAAIIIDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Overconfidence breeds complacency.
Yes the Raiders almost upset an undefeated team on the road. So a home game against one of the worst teams in the NFL should be a walk in the park?
This is very worrying.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Exactly, Kiwi_Blade
Especially as the Raiders this year are essentially an organization still trying to find its feet, still struggling to gel on offense, defense and special teams, a lot of schematic and personnel issues going on. The Raiders do not inspire confidence in any regard. They can come out and compete/beat a strong team, as much as they can come out and get destroyed by a mediocre team.
The Raiders need to prove themselves first with a string of wins and competitive losses, otherwise pundits like us are not incorrect to fear and worry.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:36 am
What a crock of sh.. article.
The 3 man rush NEVER works.
Why?
Because you could have 20 defense backs on the field and if you give a pro quarterback enough time, he will find someone.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Bunk – I hate the prevent defense.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Quick Question
Im reading this blog naked, is that g@y?
October 20th, 2012 at 12:48 am
Only if another man is scrolling for you
October 20th, 2012 at 12:49 am
Prevent defense suck.
I did it in madden and lost
October 20th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Lol @73
Just finished tapping the wife, to lazy to put on anything.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Jerry, Prevent Defense is successful at preventing Wins
October 20th, 2012 at 12:57 am
da trinity Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Lol @73
Just finished tapping the wife, to lazy to put on anything.
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Is it g@y if we’re all reading this blog and responding to each others comments whilst naked?
October 20th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Prevent defense has never done anything except to set up a winning field goal for the opposition.
What did we do to Big Ben the last 4 plays of the Steeler game; came as if our lives depended on it and sacked him, I believe, 3 times, or at least twice. This pressure and these sacks ended the game.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:13 am
Prevent defense just demonstrates a D has no confidence in itself.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:15 am
The Raiders of old would have come back and score after the pick six. Once Atlanta got the ball they would have sacked the QB and driven him back. Next play they would have go to him again, stood him up and stripped of the ball, recovered, and ran it back for the game winning TD.
Prevent Defense: Ballocks!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Laaaaaakers….,,….
…..,kinda suck so far.
Hwnraider, jhill, marks hair, tell me why I shouldn’t be in panic mode right now about the lakers! Other than no d Howard…These guys should still beat the jazz and kings!
October 20th, 2012 at 6:44 am
You can rush five, cover four, and still keep two over the top. Make them earn it. Hell play cover three. The real mistake is not letting Jano kick anything from 65 and under. There is an article on NFL.com about a high school kid that kicked a 67 yard field goal.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Its only gay if you’re typing with one hand and touching it with the other
October 20th, 2012 at 6:46 am
The 3 man rush NEVER works.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Only preseason Dakota. New offense, new players and coaches… i’m sure they’re still figuring out how the new pieces will work together, plus the chemistry issue etc. Might take awhile until this team starts playing to to its potential. Devin Ebanks looked pretty sharp behind the arch! Only time will tell.
Go Lakers!
October 20th, 2012 at 6:49 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3837562
In defense of the prevent.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Still dont agree with the defence called but its gives me a little more confidence in DA an Tarver putting the best def players on the field feeelin good about Sun.
GO RAIDERS!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 7:04 am
the D did their job all day in an aggressive scheme. Taking them out of an aggressive scheme took them out of their flow and also show a lack confidence by the coaching staff. The prevent defense doesnt stop offense success it just banks on time running out before an offense can score. its time to move on and ive never been impressed by jerry’s football IQ anyway.
Big next 3 weeks..time to man up and be 4-4..
October 20th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Forget ’bout Atlanta and forget ’bout the prevent.This is what we should be saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW-sL5gzHQ
October 20th, 2012 at 7:11 am
..time to man up and be 4-4..
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D@mn right.Take nothing for granted against the Jags – some are going on like they’re already beat.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:41 am
With our Corners the prevent D is about as horrible idea as I can think of with just a 3 point lead…….even a 7 point lead with our band Aid corners is risky….never liked the Prevent but I’ve seen it over and over with the Raiders and it usually burns them…..Sunday…. Get a lead and stick with what’s working … Hopefully a prevent D will be a mute point this Sunday …
But in anycase…. Just Win!
October 20th, 2012 at 7:55 am
neilb Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:11 am
..time to man up and be 4-4..
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D@mn right.Take nothing for granted against the Jags – some are going on like they’re already beat.
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swami (c.Berman) sez, Raiders 24, Jags 17 (on Espn)
October 20th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The prevent wasn’t the problem last Sunday. It was the full zone defense that was the problem. All Tarver had to do was put man coverage on the wideouts and/or ESPECIALLY Gonzalez, and it would have worked to perfection.
Instead, on the 3rd and 6 play, Burris left Gonzolez wide open on the sideline to cover NOBODY.
The following play, Gonzalez was left wide open by Wheeler playing 5 yards behind him. Ryan didn’t even look at anyone else besides Gonzalez, and why would he? A 6 foot 5 HOF TE makes an easy target. One the Raiders didn’t bother covering M2M.
Crazy stuff!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:46 am
This place was livelier off season during the lockout than it is now!
GOOOOOD MORRRRNNIIINNG RAAAIDERR NAAATION!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:49 am
fingers Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:41 am
With our Corners the prevent D is about as horrible idea as I can think of with just a 3 point lead……
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Not really. The wideouts were double covered to perfection on Sunday.
It’s the wide open TE that was the problem… zone defense always seems to confuse our LBs… no matter who the DC is. Its been that way for as long as I can remember.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:51 am
According to the Raiders’ stats, Wheeler is the team’s second-leading tackler behind safety Tyvon Branch with 58 stops.
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so far this season, Branch has a bunch of tackles and he’s faired pretty well versus the run. he’s awful in coverage though and certainly overpaid
who called it??
the only “plays” he has made were a fumble he didn’t force on DeMaryus Thomas and an INT thrown right to him by Matt Ryan because Wheeler was wreaking havoc
Top 5 SS in the NFL, right TB lovers?
bwahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:58 am
test
October 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am
McClain sucks, too
October 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Phenomenal post Jer. and I enjoyed reading. I still hate prevent defense, it really stinks. I don’t use the word hate much except for prevent D, the devil, the Patriots and the Red sox.:)
October 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
so far this season, Branch has a bunch of tackles and he’s faired pretty well versus the run. he’s awful in coverage though and certainly overpaid
who called it??
the only “plays” he has made were a fumble he didn’t force on DeMaryus Thomas and an INT thrown right to him by Matt Ryan because Wheeler was wreaking havoc
Top 5 SS in the NFL, right TB lovers?
bwahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!
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Name a safety that has played better for us since RWood retired.
Just one.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Wow, so you are telling me that the coaches probably no more than the people who post on here?
Who knew!!!!!!!
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@JFB
keep Knapp, fire Sully!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Name a safety that has played better for us since RWood retired.
Just one.
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Michael Huff & Gibril Wilson. there’s 2 for you bro
Stuart Schweigert & Hiram Eugene had better cover skills
Mike Mitchell & Jerome Boyd are about equal in hitting ability & speed. equally as bad in coverage
October 20th, 2012 at 9:10 am
whats up Goldie? is Nick Miller off his suspension yet?
his clone Jacoby Ford is on I.R.
is White Webster still with the Rams !?!?
I wonder if we could trade McClain or Branch for him?
better yet … re-sign Johnnie Lee !
October 20th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Top 5 SS in the NFL, right TB lovers?
bwahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I said top 10 S.
LOL
October 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
This place was livelier off season during the lockout than it is now!
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@Purvis
we weren’t 1-4 back then!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
top 10 of ALL safeties in the league might be worse, O
but thanks for reminding me, haha
… on the bright side … Chris Berman predicted we will beat the Jags tomorrow
October 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I love how the DC gets all the blame for the last drive, but the players get none.
We rushed 4 and didn’t sniff Ryan. You saying we send an extra person or two that would have changed?
Why not blame the D-lineman, who played pattycake the whole drive? Is it that much to ask of ONE of our D-lineman on ANY of the plays to generate a decent pass rush?
There were 5 plays on the drive, and either 3 or 4 pass-rushers each play. We/They went like 0 for 17 rushing the passer, an epicly collosal failure on their part.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:18 am
The thing I don’t like about the prevent defense is altering/ changing how you do things in the last few minutes. How do you think you got to that point and managed to play well the 1st 58+ mins? Luck?
GTFO
October 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
@JFB
not a fan of Andre Carter at 48 years old who hasn’t started a game since last October?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says: we weren’t 1-4 back then!!==========
Good point. But 1 and 4 should at least get the negative nancies fired up. I guess after a week they’ve already shot their wad.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Coach O,
would you have blitzed on ATL’s final drive?
do you trust our secondary that much?
I think Tarver was hoping 6 turds in coverage might have a better chance than 4, ya know?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
RR,
It’s worse!
I still think he us better than G Wilson. lol
Btw, f those bastards at work, and I think you should post more during the week. Eff them!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
O,
The offense isn’t running the same offense down the stretch as they were all game, shouldn’t the D change as well?
Should we have left Huff on an island on Roddy White? I would rather take my chances with a non-Pro Bowl kicker trying a 40 yarder, better yet a 55 yarder, over that scenario.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Michael Huff & Gibril Wilson. there’s 2 for you bro
Stuart Schweigert & Hiram Eugene had better cover skills
Mike Mitchell & Jerome Boyd are about equal in hitting ability & speed. equally as bad in coverage
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We clearly are watching alternate universe Raider games or something bro.
BOYD????
Good gawd man… he shouldn’t have even been on a college team playing safety.
Gibril was ok, but just as hit or miss as Branch. Huff is NEVER in the play at safety… although he looks like a fine CB.
SCHWEIGERT???? BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You are trolling now.
Do you even watch Raider games? Or a Niner fan pretending to be a Raider fan to make us look like imbeciles?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:25 am
1 and 4 should at least get the negative nancies fired up.
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@Purvis
the Raiders losing is turning me into a negative norman. When I taste piss in the Kool-Aid it’s time to stop drinking it.
Fun to pour & serve to others though!!
Hey my brother Raider O, how you doing today? THIRSTY ??
October 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
RR.
I dont’t trust our secondary that much, but they played well that game because we were able to put pressure on M Ryan, so why stop doing that in the last 40 secs of the game? That makes no sense to me.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
so are the three stooges still sinking this ship? Or are you blind bats still drinking their koolaid?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Do you even watch Raider games? Or a Niner fan pretending to be a Raider fan to make us look like imbeciles?
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LOL
classic response Gdog. I guess you read “overall safety” when I typed “in coverage”
October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 am
How do you sink a ship that has been laying on the bottom of the ocean for 10 years?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
So with Bartell ‘designated to return’, is
Jford out for the season? Can they switch(not that I would, necessarily)or is that binding? Had they listened to me(they never do)and put Ford on the pup list in pre-season, could he and Curry have both come back?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Btw, f those bastards at work, and I think you should post more during the week. Eff them!
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thanks for the kind words, O. I have stepped into a more clinical role temporarily. more “hands on” with patient care. I’m still training that monkey who stole my job, off & on. I’m keeping my options open … looking for something better. Certainly don’t want that douche as my boss when I re-enter the accountant scene in March or April
October 20th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Here are your 8-8 teams from last year:
Raiders, Chargers, Bronco’s, Jets, Eagles, Cowboys, Cardinals.
Bronco’s and MAYBE the Cardinals, are the only two teams that have grown from last year.
Raiders, Jets, Eagles and Cowboys are clearly worse.
Chargers, wait and see.
Not one of the 7-9 or 8-8 teams from 2010 (Dolphins, Jaguars, Raiders, Rams) improved in 2011.
Recent TRENDS (hello O!!!) show that middling teams get worse the next year, not better.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says: better yet … re-sign Johnnie Lee !==
Higgins, Murphy, and Schillens, man, I really thought we were gonna have a WR corps that could even make Jarassic look good. Shows what I know.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
O,
Starting the CFA program.
Level I test in June.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
classic response Gdog. I guess you read “overall safety” when I typed “in coverage”
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I asked you to name the safeties that were better than Branch.
That’s ALL I asked.
And you came up with Boyd and Schweigert.
And my knee jerked.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Gdog Says:
And you came up with Boyd and Schweigert.
And my knee jerked.
Rightfully so.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
All u guys are idiots!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Oakland A’s did well, but im glad to have the Raider football field back! Gonna be a beautiful thing!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Zito saved our season last night, World Series is right around the corner!!!!!
Can’t kill this team
October 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
The strong safeties main job is not coverage anyway… he is one of the best run stopping STRONG safeties we’ve had in 15 years. Why anyone would go out of his way to diss him is beyond me… he’s probably our 2nd best player on the field on defense.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
O,
The offense isn’t running the same offense down the stretch as they were all game, shouldn’t the D change as well?
Should we have left Huff on an island on Roddy White? I would rather take my chances with a non-Pro Bowl kicker trying a 40 yarder, better yet a 55 yarder, over that scenario.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- excellent point. I was counting on you to say that. Excellent point!
They are altering their offense for 2 reasons: 1- lack of time 2- production
Their high powered offense struggled to produce that game, so they had to change things especially without having much time left on the clock. Their last TD came from the drfense. Why should we alter our defense that has been productive so far especially at that point with 40 secs left on the clock? The pressure is on them, their offense is strugling to score, so they had to change things. We didn’t have to IMHO.
- our secondary played well because we were able to put pressure on M Ryan. Keep doing that because it worked, and that’s why they had to change things.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
RaiderDanny Says: All u guys are idiots!!================
I,ve read that somewhere before.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:53 am
RR,
No piss flavored koolaid for me. Thank you.
Training your monkey boss? Fantastic. They can promote RR and increase his salary and benefits, but no. Hire a monkey, pay him a salary (will cost more than RR’s increase in salary), and have RR train they new monkey, and hopefully he can be as good as RR or better?
EFF Them. Find a new co bro.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I see that point O, but we are we acting like the ONLY time we generated pressure on Ryan was through the blitz? We are we acting like we blitzed every play all game and that’s why we were successful?
I can see placing blame on Tarver. It’s a results oriented business, and it didn’t work.
But why no blame on TK and Seymour? We are paying them a zillion dollars, the least they can do is at least get a QB pressue (not even a sack, just force a hurried throw) in the most important part of the game.
They failed miserably, IMO.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Chico,
Congrats. Great move for your career. CFA now, MBA later, and great income. Get your PHD later, teach part time when you retire. Good benefits, extra income, and a lot of eye candy especially in CA.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
My point is everyone wants to always place blame in one spot.
Plenty of blame to go around, but I always start FIRST AND FOREMOST with the guys who get paid to make plays.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
CFA now, MBA later, and great income.
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And gets me out of the monkey race, driving from one end of New Mexico to another.
Although there is 3 levels to the test and only offer the test every June, so the absolute earliest I could be done is June 2015.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I agree. Blame Tarver and the DL especially TK & Seymour.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Damn Monkey Race almost killed me!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Great column Jerry, thanks.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
The strong safeties main job is not coverage anyway… he is one of the best run stopping STRONG safeties we’ve had in 15 years.
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is this a comedy central blog?
come on Gdog. this is a passing league. one dimensional players on offense & defense are being phased out. if Branch is only on the field for what Tarver thinks will be running plays, it’s a dead giveaway to the other team’s OC and he and/or the QB will adapt and gameplan accordingly. Branch is a liability in coverage and 50% or more of his job is to cover somebody
October 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Branch = Mayor McCheese of SS????
October 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
3 years but it’s worth every min and cent. Try to get an MBA online if you can during that time (UNC which is a top ranked business program offers an online program for 90k), and you will make loads of money.
Money!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
But why no blame on TK and Seymour? We are paying them a zillion dollars, the least they can do is at least get a QB pressue (not even a sack, just force a hurried throw) in the most important part of the game.
They failed miserably, IMO.=============================
Basic cable, so I can’t DVR games. But I’d like to see the last 40 seconds again to see just what the fck those two were doing. Well, I wouldn’t like to, but I am curious.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Damn Monkey Race almost killed me!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
I thought it was sugar.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Blame Tarver and the DL especially TK & Seymour
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Tarver is a rookie DC who wasn’t even in the NFL last year. Seymour (knee) & Kelly (foot) were hobbled and clearly should have given more snaps away to Bryant & Houston. Those guys who play when they want to anyways. very inconsistant. dominant for about 1 play per quarter
October 20th, 2012 at 10:20 am
I thought it was sugar.
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Stress of the long azz drive on a Sunday made me weak and let my guard down for a Fanta and some Gobstoppers, lol.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
If there was still a bandwagon for Logan Thomas, that thing just caught fire on the side of the road.
He is absolutely awful.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
RR,
That’s why I didn’t want a rookie HC, a rookie DC, and Knapp. Same with drafting a 26 YO rookie OG.
I told you that before, remember?
October 20th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
But why no blame on TK and Seymour? We are paying them a zillion dollars, the least they can do is at least get a QB pressue (not even a sack, just force a hurried throw) in the most important part of the game.
They failed miserably, IMO.=============================
Basic cable, so I can’t DVR games. But I’d like to see the last 40 seconds again to see just what the fck those two were doing. Well, I wouldn’t like to, but I am curious.
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Have you ever seen two T-Rex’s play patty cake with one another?
October 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
lol, I like a drink called Mirinda (pepsi) sold over seas.
How can anyone think that kid is 1st round talent?
October 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I am interested in how Geno Smith and WVU respond today.
Millions of dollars on the line for him. A loss, and no big bowl, and that will not help the draft stock.
A win, and that BCS bowl is still on the table, as is a top 3 draft pick.
I would be curious what others think of him in here. Our good buddy Mistic has him part of the “wave of the future” even though he is not very athletic.
To me, he is much more a Drew Bledsoe/Matt Ryan than he is a Vick or Newton type athlete.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Shawerma & Mirinda!!!!!!!!!!
If you know what I’m saying, you know what I’m saying!
Later Gents. I’m hungry.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Thomas is looking at a Jevon Snead (remember him???) like fall from grace.
Potential first round pick to……….whatever the hell Snead is doing these days.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Id rather draft the next Von Miller type than a QB. Palmer isn’t the problem and a QB isn’t fixing our defense.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
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Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
I’m told scouts from #Browns, #Packers, #Raiders & #Vikings will attend #Washington, #Arizona game today. #CFB #NFL
October 20th, 2012 at 10:39 am
We definately need some speed coming off the edge for our pass rush.
These 270+ types at DE don’t really work on 3rd and 7.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Id rather draft the next Von Miller type than a QB. Palmer isn’t the problem and a QB isn’t fixing our defense.
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Spoken like someone that knows a thing or two about football. Everyone likes to blame/praise the QB like he’s the only one on the field.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I thought Houston would have developed more from his rookie year. 5 sacks and a ton of qb pressures, but it just hasn’t happened. Disappointing really.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I don’t know too much about cfb, I don’t watch it much, I haven’t heard of that top pass rusher this year, is there a prospect? Id rather trade back and accumulate picks personally.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
There is a guy for LSU and South Carolina, but I don’t think either is draft eligible in 2013.
But they are both top 10 locks, IMO.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
well here is my prediction for tomorrows game..
JAC-27
OAK-21
MJD is gonna score 3 tds easily in this game.. RUN DMC will still struggle against the easiest run D in the nfl thanks to mr. sandmans awesome offense.. 28 touches for DMC 88 yards 0 tds.. gonna be sad really.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Id rather trade back and accumulate picks personally.
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Me too, Bcz
but it’s way too early to be talking draft. 11 games left in the season, right?
anything can happen
October 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
but on the bright side, palmer will throw 300 yds and 3 tds.. another awesome stat day that equals a big L on the schedule..
October 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Just like your 59-0 prediction last week?
October 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Raiderrockstar:
come on Gdog. this is a passing league. one dimensional players on offense & defense are being phased out.
>>>>>
That’s a good point… but how long have been losing games because we can’t stop the damn run? If we had a free safety that isn’t either slow (Giordano) or clueless (Huff) we could easily make up for Branch’s liability against the pass.
Ya got to pick your poison in this league too…
October 20th, 2012 at 11:03 am
J-Raider,
I see what you’re saying. Tannehill & Reggie Bush ripped us a new one, so it really wouldn’t surprise anybody to see Gabbert & Jones-Drew do the same
I think we need Willie Smith & Jared Veldheer to step up on offense. McClain & Branch to step up on defense
October 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
too early to talk draft????!!!!???? WWWHHHAAAATTT???? youre joking right? the ONLY way, let me repeat, the O-N-L-Y way we make the playoffs this year is if peyton manning, phillip rivers, greg knapp, and jamaal charles all have massive heart attacks and cant play and/or die.. thats the ONLY way we make the playoffs. plain and simple.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Branch is being picked on in coverage and beat for TD’s way more than Huff & Giordano combined imo
October 20th, 2012 at 11:06 am
J,
we’re 2 games outta first place with 11 games to play.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Well last year Peyton didn’t play, Rivers led the NFL in turnovers, Knapp was not our OC and Charles got hurt week 2.
Yet, still no playoffs.
Seems like last year was our chance.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:08 am
bcz24 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I don’t know too much about cfb, I don’t watch it much, I haven’t heard of that top pass rusher this year, is there a prospect? Id rather trade back and accumulate picks personally.
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Very deep year at DE/OLB.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Just like your 59-0 prediction last week?
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im being optimistic today.. but we will still lose thanks to our awesome genius offensive guru, mr. sandman-AKA gregg (take a) knapp..
still pretty sad to lose to a team like JAC at HOME but oh well, we will be relevant agian this century..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Gdog Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 am.
Do you even watch Raider games? Or a Niner fan pretending to be a Raider fan to make us look like imbeciles?
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Only an imbecile would state someone pretending to be a Raider fan makes them to be an imbecile by merely posting.
You have trouble crossing the street at crosswalks? Listen for the beep that says it’s ok to proceed.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 am
We are not losing tomorrow.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Well last year Peyton didn’t play, Rivers led the NFL in turnovers, Knapp was not our OC and Charles got hurt week 2.
Yet, still no playoffs.
Seems like last year was our chance.
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DAM youre right!!! we suck even worse than i thought we did! so even with all that we will go 8-8 at best and get horrible draft position in round 1.. awesome! thanks for the heads up..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 am
We are not losing tomorrow.
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and the world is flat, and there is no such thing as gravity, and pigs fly, and fire wont burn you, and oh yeah the raiders will win the superbowl this year! HA HA HA, we can all say chit that isnt true but in the end its just a waste of time!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
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October 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I hate some fags in here, who pretend to be Raiders fans
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
we can all say chit that isnt true but in the end its just a waste of time
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Well, you spend all week last week telling us we would lose 59-0, give up 600 yards of offense and would fall to dead last in the NFL in defense.
That was a colossal waste of time wasn’t it?
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raiders will win tomorrow.. If can go into road against a team that hardly loses a home game and give them a heartattack .. then we should be fine coming home against a team that’s no where near the level of Atlanta
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
hey, didnt we lose to JAC the last time we played them??? and that was when DMC was a BEAST in a good O system.. we have no shot in knapps system..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Branch is being picked on in coverage and beat for TD’s way more than Huff & Giordano combined imo
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Well I am going to watch the “coaches film” of the game right now… I will keep an eye on Branch just out of curiosity.
Looks like Sully is here… I am out. He’s an IQ vacuum.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:20 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
hey, didnt we lose to JAC the last time we played them??? and that was when DMC was a BEAST in a good O system.. we have no shot in knapps system..
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We played in Jacksonville , had Breshnahan D.. Had Campbell as QB.. every thing have changed.. we will beat the snot out of them … go to your whiners blog… never seen you here before .. except when you have to talk negative
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
That was in JAX, with them having a better QB than as opposed to now, and us having a worse one than as opposed to now.
Not really apples to apples.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Gdog Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Branch is being picked on in coverage and beat for TD’s way more than Huff & Giordano combined imo
>>>>
Well I am going to watch the “coaches film” of the game right now… I will keep an eye on Branch just out of curiosity.
Looks like Sully is here… I am out. He’s an IQ vacuum.
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LOL @ IQ Vacuum GOOD 1
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I hate some fags in here, who pretend to be Raiders fans
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Go do your homework, then clean your room. This blog is for the big kids.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Well, you spend all week last week telling us we would lose 59-0, give up 600 yards of offense and would fall to dead last in the NFL in defense.
That was a colossal waste of time wasn’t it?
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and at the end of the day we went home with a L…
not sure whats worse, getting blown out by a much much much better team, or losing the way we did.. but like i said, we still lost so it doesnt matter how you look at it..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
That was in JAX, with them having a better QB than as opposed to now, and us having a worse one than as opposed to now.
Not really apples to apples.
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Never seen this guy in here before, and all of a sudden is here to say we will lose at home against one of the worst teams in the league after we almost knocked the best nfl team out in their own house last week… doesn’t make any sense… it’s just a troll
October 20th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Just Win Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I hate some fags in here, who pretend to be Raiders fans
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Go do your homework, then clean your room. This blog is for the big kids.
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WHy are you getting so upset, I’m talking about obvious trolls like Sully and J-Raider
October 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Gdog Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 am.
Do you even watch Raider games? Or a Niner fan pretending to be a Raider fan to make us look like imbeciles?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Gdog,
Any fan of any professional sports team who has put up with what the Raiders have dished out the past 10 yrs, then becomes a worshiper.
Most worshipers are imbeciles.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:25 am
RaidersOne Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Gdog Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:24 am.
Do you even watch Raider games? Or a Niner fan pretending to be a Raider fan to make us look like imbeciles?
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Gdog,
Any fan of any professional sports team who has put up with what the Raiders have dished out the past 10 yrs, then becomes a worshiper.
Most worshipers are imbeciles.
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Another troll
October 20th, 2012 at 11:27 am
We played in Jacksonville , had Breshnahan D.. Had Campbell as QB.. every thing have changed.. we will beat the snot out of them … go to your whiners blog… never seen you here before .. except when you have to talk negative
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well if you put it that way we are in even more trouble..
*our defense is as bad or worse than last year..
*our QB is better but we are one dimensional now because of our awesome zone-blocking system..
*and our only real threat(DMC) is neutralized by the system listed above..
so how exactly are we better? because of palmer? he has won us 5 games since he has been here.. not too sold on him carrying us to victory quite yet..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
That was in JAX, with them having a better QB than as opposed to now, and us having a worse one than as opposed to now.
Not really apples to apples.
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*see post 193
October 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
mcfadden20.
Another troll
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Stop Mcfadden. I know you are a worshiper so maybe you fit into the imbecile category. You have hitched yourself to a mediocre back and obviously worship him. How lame is that?
The other night you were saying some really dumb stuff, arrogantly thinking you were correct, which you were not. I didn’t even rebut you on it because it wasn’t worth the effort.
I am no troll and have been blogging here longer than you.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:31 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:27 am
We played in Jacksonville , had Breshnahan D.. Had Campbell as QB.. every thing have changed.. we will beat the snot out of them … go to your whiners blog… never seen you here before .. except when you have to talk negative
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well if you put it that way we are in even more trouble..
*our defense is as bad or worse than last year..
*our QB is better but we are one dimensional now because of our awesome zone-blocking system..
*and our only real threat(DMC) is neutralized by the system listed above..
so how exactly are we better? because of palmer? he has won us 5 games since he has been here.. not too sold on him carrying us to victory quite yet..
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See like i told you , you’re a troll… Last year we couldn’t stop any running team .. this year we can… same game last 2 years .. we would have went and gotten blown out… we held our own against.. Matt Ryan who’s better than jax QB… we held up pretty well against the best WR duo in the nfl… we held a future HOF te to just 4 receptions… if you can see … we’re getting better at running the ball.. Palmer is better than J Campbell and most of all We’re playing in freaking Oakland not in east coast time where we struggle every single time
October 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
RaidersOne Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
mcfadden20.
Another troll
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Stop Mcfadden. I know you are a worshiper so maybe you fit into the imbecile category. You have hitched yourself to a mediocre back and obviously worship him. How lame is that?
The other night you were saying some really dumb stuff, arrogantly thinking you were correct, which you were not. I didn’t even rebut you on it because it wasn’t worth the effort.
I am no troll and have been blogging here longer than you.
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I knew you were a troll now you confirmed it … i have never seen you say a good thing in here.. why would you predict a loss.. when we played the best nfl team tough on the road.. why would you predict a loss coming home and playing against one of the worst teams in the league.. i mean makes no sense.. so you’re just a troll
October 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
oh and mcfadden20,
i have been on this blog numerous times over the last year and a half, so im not exactly new here.. here is proof.
there is a guy call the beech dawg that repeatedly shows up every post to say quote” diggity siggity rizzle dizzle for my nizzly” and then there is an old man called koolkell that still thinks its 1969 and then there is mistic who always knows what is best for our team.. the list goes on and on..
so no im not a troll just a disgruntled fan that cant believe where this team is headed after we have already been through it for the last 10 fukin years..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Okay now here it comes: Mcfadden’s outrage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He claims I am a troll ect., etc., when I was rooting for the Raiders in the pre-Stabler era, before he was even a cumshot on his momma’s sheet.
Go chill and take you wife out to lunch, if you even have wife. There is more to the world than this.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
oh and mcfadden20,
i have been on this blog numerous times over the last year and a half, so im not exactly new here.. here is proof.
there is a guy call the beech dawg that repeatedly shows up every post to say quote” diggity siggity rizzle dizzle for my nizzly” and then there is an old man called koolkell that still thinks its 1969 and then there is mistic who always knows what is best for our team.. the list goes on and on..
so no im not a troll just a disgruntled fan that cant believe where this team is headed after we have already been through it for the last 10 fukin years..
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You are absolutely correct J-Raider.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Blocked again!!
Let’s go Buckeyes!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:38 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
oh and mcfadden20,
i have been on this blog numerous times over the last year and a half, so im not exactly new here.. here is proof.
there is a guy call the beech dawg that repeatedly shows up every post to say quote” diggity siggity rizzle dizzle for my nizzly” and then there is an old man called koolkell that still thinks its 1969 and then there is mistic who always knows what is best for our team.. the list goes on and on..
so no im not a troll just a disgruntled fan that cant believe where this team is headed after we have already been through it for the last 10 fukin years..
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So why exactly would your predict a loss against one of the worst teams in the league playing at Oakland when we gave our best effort on the road in the last 10 years.. remind me again when was the last time we went against a team that was unbeaten and we gave them a test … Raiders teams of the past would have never showed up but we did… we came inches away from coming home and defeating them … i don’t understand why would you predict Raiders will lose against Jax
October 20th, 2012 at 11:38 am
See like i told you , you’re a troll… Last year we couldn’t stop any running team .. this year we can… same game last 2 years .. we would have went and gotten blown out… we held our own against.. Matt Ryan who’s better than jax QB… we held up pretty well against the best WR duo in the nfl… we held a future HOF te to just 4 receptions… if you can see … we’re getting better at running the ball.. Palmer is better than J Campbell and most of all We’re playing in freaking Oakland not in east coast time where we struggle every single time
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youre pretty quick to call alot of people trolls HAHAHA.. dude you are literally trying so hard to sugar-coat an ugly loss.. and the HOF TE caught the pass that got them in field goal range to win it.. im just looking at our team with a realistic approach, whereas you are looking at our team like its going to the superbowl.. im not the crazy troll guy here, YOU are!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
RaidersOne Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Okay now here it comes: Mcfadden’s outrage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He claims I am a troll ect., etc., when I was rooting for the Raiders in the pre-Stabler era, before he was even a cumshot on his momma’s sheet.
Go chill and take you wife out to lunch, if you even have wife. There is more to the world than this.
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I am sorry , its not hard to figure out a troll… if you are saying you don’t want to be heart broken and thats why predicting a loss then understandable .. but to say we will lose outright? why ? based on the past records? based on what man?
October 20th, 2012 at 11:42 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:38 am
See like i told you , you’re a troll… Last year we couldn’t stop any running team .. this year we can… same game last 2 years .. we would have went and gotten blown out… we held our own against.. Matt Ryan who’s better than jax QB… we held up pretty well against the best WR duo in the nfl… we held a future HOF te to just 4 receptions… if you can see … we’re getting better at running the ball.. Palmer is better than J Campbell and most of all We’re playing in freaking Oakland not in east coast time where we struggle every single time
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youre pretty quick to call alot of people trolls HAHAHA.. dude you are literally trying so hard to sugar-coat an ugly loss.. and the HOF TE caught the pass that got them in field goal range to win it.. im just looking at our team with a realistic approach, whereas you are looking at our team like its going to the superbowl.. im not the crazy troll guy here, YOU are!!
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I’m not claiming we will make the superbowl but i feel better about this game and i feel we can win the next 3 .. i mean you saw the game.. Raiders can duplicate the same effort and make less mistakes .. if they can do that .. why would you believe we will lose next week.. i mean if you’re going to come here and say Raiders will lose at home to the worst team in the league… why would you come here at all? for what? makes no sense troll
October 20th, 2012 at 11:42 am
So why exactly would your predict a loss against one of the worst teams in the league playing at Oakland when we gave our best effort on the road in the last 10 years.. remind me again when was the last time we went against a team that was unbeaten and we gave them a test … Raiders teams of the past would have never showed up but we did… we came inches away from coming home and defeating them … i don’t understand why would you predict Raiders will lose against Jax
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plain and simple, we will lose because our best weapon (DMC) cant run!!! thats the reason why we have lost 4 games!!!! its not that hard to understand!!!! gregg knapp has turned a potential 2000 yard RB to a struggling 750 yard RB.. if we could run the ball like we did the first 6 games of last season we would probably be 4-2 and in first place, BUT we CANT AND were NOT!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
mcfadden20.
I knew you were a troll now you confirmed it … i have never seen you say a good thing in here.. why would you predict a loss.. when we played the best nfl team tough on the road.. why would you predict a loss coming home and playing against one of the worst teams in the league.. i mean makes no sense.. so you’re just a troll
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McFadden,
Last week I wasn’t around on the blog much. I didn’t predict who would win last Sunday and only tuned into the game in the latter part of the 3rd quarter.
When a team is in the Raiders’ current condition, it’s unhealthy to get upset about it either way, could lead to a stroke over a child’s game.
I don’t know if Reggie is sacrificing this season to build for next season, so I’ll just wait it out and see. I was impressed at seeing the Raiders play last weekend in the fourth quarter.
Btw, thank you for the logical exposition as to the definition of a troll.
I feel better about being a troll under your definition, than you being a worshiper of a has-been running back gaining approximately 2 yds per carry.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:44 am
just admit it.. everyone in here admit that gregg knapp has destroyed our offense.. if you cant admit that then your insane..
October 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I feel better about being a troll under your definition, than you being a worshiper of a has-been running back gaining approximately 2 yds per carry.
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THANK YOU at least someone in here UNDERSTANDS THAT!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:42 am
So why exactly would your predict a loss against one of the worst teams in the league playing at Oakland when we gave our best effort on the road in the last 10 years.. remind me again when was the last time we went against a team that was unbeaten and we gave them a test … Raiders teams of the past would have never showed up but we did… we came inches away from coming home and defeating them … i don’t understand why would you predict Raiders will lose against Jax
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plain and simple, we will lose because our best weapon (DMC) cant run!!! thats the reason why we have lost 4 games!!!! its not that hard to understand!!!! gregg knapp has turned a potential 2000 yard RB to a struggling 750 yard RB.. if we could run the ball like we did the first 6 games of last season we would probably be 4-2 and in first place, BUT we CANT AND were NOT!!!
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If you can’t see that we’re making progress in running game and we went over 100 yards last week for the first time , then i don’t know what to tell you..all palmer had to do was get a first down and get another first down and run the time over and kick the FG and we come home with a win .. why can’t we beat the worst team in the league with this running game when we almost beat the best team in the league , even when they got the help from refs
October 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
LATER raider bros, i hope we win but its for a lost cause!! thanks to our AWESOME O COORD GREGG FUKIN KNAPP!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:44 am
just admit it.. everyone in here admit that gregg knapp has destroyed our offense.. if you cant admit that then your insane..
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If it was that bad i really doubt we would have gained over 470+ yards even with like 6 plays over 20+ yards called back due to penalties…
October 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Branch = Mayor McCheese of SS????
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No Bruh, McDonald can have 1 mayor, and that’s slow.
Now Branch could be the hamburgular, since in you’re opinion he is stealing the Raids money.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
J-Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
LATER raider bros, i hope we win but its for a lost cause!! thanks to our AWESOME O COORD GREGG FUKIN KNAPP!!!!
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GOOD RIDDANCE .. HOPE TO SEE YOU UNDER A NEW TROLL NAME PREDICTING A LOSS against the Chiefs after we whoop Jax
October 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Mcfadden,
If you look at my recent postings mainly I have been keeping Beeechy Boy in check and have barely commented on the Raiders.
I am tired of Beeechy and when Gay Lover outted him I had enough.
Please, before you accuse me of being a troll, keep track of who says what in here.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raiders will win tomorrow.. If can go into road against a team that hardly loses a home game and give them a heartattack .. then we should be fine coming home against a team that’s no where near the level of Atlanta
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its called playing down to your opponents level which we have been known to do and at home no less, so no game for us is a shoe in as we havent showed consistency since the Gannon years. it doesnt matter what we did last week as a Raider fans we should all know this.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:52 am
RaidersOne Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Mcfadden,
If you look at my recent postings mainly I have been keeping Beeechy Boy in check and have barely commented on the Raiders.
I am tired of Beeechy and when Gay Lover outted him I had enough.
Please, before you accuse me of being a troll, keep track of who says what in here.
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Ok man who cares… i just have a hard time figuring out some 1 claiming we will lose outright to a bad team at home when we gave a pretty good effort against the best team on the road .. i mean if it were the Patriots or Green bay coming to the house .. it makes sense.. but predicting we will lose to a 1-4 team after last weeks effort… you think last week was fluke .. you think they will lose again .. if they show up and play like last week against one of the worst teams in the league?
October 20th, 2012 at 11:54 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raiders will win tomorrow.. If can go into road against a team that hardly loses a home game and give them a heartattack .. then we should be fine coming home against a team that’s no where near the level of Atlanta
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its called playing down to your opponents level which we have been known to do and at home no less, so no game for us is a shoe in as we havent showed consistency since the Gannon years. it doesnt matter what we did last week as a Raider fans we should all know this.
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I know what you’re saying.. but the real deal is , same game last week , we would have not even showed up in the past few years… we were 1 play away from beating the best team on the road in Easter time zone… think about that for a second.. i think they are turning the corner and i think they will give even better effort this week and we will win .. but ofcourse anything can happen on sunday but i feel really good this week after what happened last week…
October 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Must win game for both teams.
Some say that Jacksonville sucks and we should beat them easily.
I’m sure the Jax fans are saying the same thing about us.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
McFadden,
It seems this season the Raiders have a tendency to win(or at least do well) against the elite teams, and lose to the cellar-dwellers. Go figure. For the time being I just hope the Raiders do well in their upcoming schedule and are not blown out.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am
gregg knapp has destroyed our offense.. if you cant admit that then your insane..
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Sung to the tune of Henry the Eight
I’m mentally ill, I am, I am
I’m mentally ill
Reg and DA will turn the club around
DA will dump Knap or force him to change
We have already seen evidence of this
The DA is on the job and we will win tomorrow
Raiders 35 -15 Knap and DMAC will prove themselves tomorrow
October 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
man same sorry peeps holding on to the sane sorry excuses…the three stoogesare to blame for the raiders irrelevance…
October 20th, 2012 at 11:59 am
We have no pass rush in the middle.Drives me pist.We better take the best D-tackle in the draft.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:54 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raiders will win tomorrow.. If can go into road against a team that hardly loses a home game and give them a heartattack .. then we should be fine coming home against a team that’s no where near the level of Atlanta
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its called playing down to your opponents level which we have been known to do and at home no less, so no game for us is a shoe in as we havent showed consistency since the Gannon years. it doesnt matter what we did last week as a Raider fans we should all know this.
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I know what you’re saying.. but the real deal is , same game last week , we would have not even showed up in the past few years… we were 1 play away from beating the best team on the road in Easter time zone… think about that for a second.. i think they are turning the corner and i think they will give even better effort this week and we will win .. but ofcourse anything can happen on sunday but i feel really good this week after what happened last week…
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I also see us improving but until they show it on the field by beating Jags (and not a nail bitter) and then going on the road and beating another inferior team KC most fans will be skeptical and can you blame them?
October 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
if we beat the Jags and go on the road and lose to the chiefs that is not improvement. we need CONSISTENCY.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Plunketthead
DA will dump Knap or force him to change
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This is probably true. Reggie and DA are very cautious and slow at adaptation and change, but eventually come around: i.e. – revamping the defense during the bye; limiting McClain to 17 plays last week.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
if we beat the Jags and go on the road and lose to the chiefs that is not improvement. we need CONSISTENCY.
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That’s true but i feel better about tomorrow until they show me otherwise
October 20th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
ANyways i’m out i hope we win just for the sake of better conversations on here
October 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Go Raiders!
October 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I have confidence in Reggie but DA I’m still on the fence with, next year with a year under his belt as a HC, some FA from reggie and another draft we shall see. DA deserves another year as did Hue.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Raiderone
Knapp changed some plays as well. More power blocking.
DA lead us back east after a bye into undefeated team and we looked great all game. We came ready to play.
Very impressive for a rookie head coach fifth game
October 20th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I just watched the coaches film of the first half and Branch did get beat in the back of the endzone in a fullout zone from the one yard line. Why Tarver thinks this team can play zone is beyond me… the CB on the play actually retreated to cover space completely unoccupied… if he had been playing M2M there would have been double coverage of him. shrug
October 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RaidersOne,
I do have 10 grand to bet. I am just not stupid enough to risk that kind of money gambling. Just remember who told you the 49ers will not get to the NFC Championship Game this season. I’m tired of dumb 49er fans coming on this blog. P.S. The Raiders will beat the Jags tomorrow!
October 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Branch could be the hamburgular, since he is stealing the Raids money.
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LOL!!
good one, Thec
October 20th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
The 3 man rush NEVER works….
October 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Tits test
October 20th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Passed
October 20th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
David Shaw…he was my pick for HC, hopefully he doesn’t land an NFL gig in the next couple of years so he remains an option for us…. but hey, it’s DA’s time now.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Krapp test
October 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Everyone is a critic when the team is losing. You can always say the team should have or could have. Fact is if the Falcons missed the 55 yard FG then no one would be talking smack about the defense. 55 yard FG’s are not automatic.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
This game is either going to be easy or impossible. I don’t see a lot of middle ground here. This game is very simple: Jokesonville has not proven the ability to come back on anyone. So the Raiders have to get up early and score often in this one. The Jokesonville defense is decent. Not great, but certainly decent. The Raiders should be able to exploit it.
If not, we will see a huge dose of a small, very fast, very hard to bring down back matched against a big, lumbering, MLB who seemingly wears cinder blocks as cleats, and frankly fans, we are not going to win that matchup.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Tits&Krapp keep telling us we’re thisclose to the ZBS and running game taking off.
In the meantime, we’re 7 weeks into the season and nearly dead last in rushing and scoring.
Just wonderful.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Everyone is a critic when the team is losing. You can always say the team should have or could have. Fact is if the Falcons missed the 55 yard FG then no one would be talking smack about the defense. 55 yard FG’s are not automatic.
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While certainly not automatic, 15 years ago they were pretty rare. In this day and age, kickers can routinely make 56+ yarders at a fairly high percentage. Even if that percentage is 50/50 from say 56 yards out, most coaches would take those odds.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
We can’t say anything about playind DOWN to our opponent yet with this new staff, since this is their first game playing an inferior opponent.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Personally, I have not cashed in the season. Not until the 7th loss will I do that.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
McFadden needs to have a breakout game on Sunday. He is due a big game. Hopefully, this will light a fire in his belly the rest of the season.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
“Success is determined as it always has been _ through execution of a plan rather than the design of the plan.”
Its not the X’s and the O’s its the Willie’s and the Joe’s.
I have been telling you guys his since the Huff article about how much better this defense will be now that Al’s old scheme is gone LMAO…
October 20th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
I’m gonna lmfao if the Raiders go 12-4.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
#246 The Jokesonville run defense is pretty much maligned, but that has to do with the fact that teams get up on them and then pound the rock at them. Atlanta has one of the worst run defenses in the league and McFadden ran almost 30 times for basically his yearly average of 2+ yards a pop. If McFadden couldn’t do sh** against Atlanta I don’t hold high hopes he will do it against Jokesonville. Funny thing was Goodson seemed fine. Maybe playing him is the answer.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Raids up to -6 now.
Books getting deluged with RAID$$$
October 20th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
The only team I can recall winning 11 straight was the 1993 Houston Oiler’s team that won out after going 1-4.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
“Personally, I have not cashed in the season. Not until the 7th loss will I do that.”
I am agree with you, well put!
October 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
This team needs to blowout the Jaguars. In my opinion a blowout will get the team motivated to go on to bigger things.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
The pats went from 1-3 to super bowl winners in 2001
October 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
This team needs to blowout the Jaguars. In my opinion a blowout will get the team motivated to go on to bigger things.
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All things considered the team has not played that poorly. Special teams gaffes cost game one, the Raiders were in the next one into the fourth quarter, and really just let the last one slip away. Personally I am more concerned that we have been getting outcoached more than out played right now.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Raids up to -6 now.
Books getting deluged with RAID$$$
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I told you this would happen at the beginning of the week.
Not a soul in the world walking up to the betting window and laying coin on Gabbert on the road, without getting a TD.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
This team needs to blowout the Jaguars. In my opinion a blowout will get the team motivated to go on to bigger things.
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All things considered the team has not played that poorly. Special teams gaffes cost game one, the Raiders were in the next one into the fourth quarter, and really just let the last one slip away. Personally I am more concerned that we have been getting outcoached more than out played right now.
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I can understand this comment. I don’t think the team was out coached last Sunday.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
I can understand this comment. I don’t think the team was out coached last Sunday.
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Agreed. Until their last drive. Then I would say once again, we were.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
“Success is determined as it always has been _ through execution of a plan rather than the design of the plan.”
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If the design of the plan stinks then executing it won’t bring success.
If engineers design a faulty bridge, it will collapse no matter how good the people assembling it are.
If the designers draw up a Krappy automobile, it’ll be a lemon regardless of who is putting it together.
If you’ve got Krapp as your OC, chances are your offense will be Krapp.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I don’t think the team was out coached last Sunday.
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Agreed, I just hope that during the bye week the coaches really sat down to talk about what is working and what is not. Hopefully last week was not a fluke and we see continued improvement with the coaching and the players for the remainder of the season.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Loved John McKay’s response to a reporter asking him what he thought of his team’s execution…
“I’m all for it”
October 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Raiders should win this game. If they don’t, then the party is over.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
This game is the corner that needs to be turned. They are at the crossroads. Make the deal with the devil.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
There is absolutely no excuse for losing this game.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
We can’t lose with our punter.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I just hope that during the bye week the coaches really sat down to talk about what is working and what is not.
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Think they discussed running ZBS stretch runs at the opponent’s GL ?
How’d that work out ?
Another great call by the genius Krapp.
That beauty probably cost 4 points and quite possibly the win.
Nice.
October 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Jerry, did the “prevent” defense work and they missed the FG? Oh wait, Allen called a timeout and gave them another try.
Allen punts instead of going for a 58yard FG, and then pulls a kiffin on a 55 yarder. 35 yarder ok but 55?! I hope he learns from these bonehead moves he’s made in every game this year. 1st 4 games was kicking a FG when he should have went for it on 4th and 1.
October 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
We haven’t lost any games because of Allen’s game management.
October 20th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Watching Hienz ward and doug flutie call the BYU/ND game
Ward looks like an alien. His head is twice the size of others. Is that normal?
October 20th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Every game so far we have all our TO for the end of the game.
That has not happened in a decade
October 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Raiders should win this game. If they don’t, then the party is over.
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Really, Puss? You signed on just to grace us with that incredible opinion?
The things I put up with around here
October 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
“Make the deal with the devil.”
Yes I agree 666% let me get the paperwork in order…
October 20th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
silver,
fix your FF team bro!!
October 20th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I would be scared to death to deal with the devil.
I would lose for sure
October 20th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Raiders win tomorrow. Kansas City is winnable. We are back in the hunt!
October 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Palmer is playing lights out! Best Raider QB Ever!
October 20th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
If we were as bad as some of the Triple D, E crew** have made us out to be, I’d be the first to start talking draft and who we should look at as our next head coach. Under the circumstances of cap space, over paid, under performing players, lack of draft picks, injuries to both our starting corners, Greg Knapp, a system not taylored to DMAC, Slowando at MLB experiment, Curry out with knees made out of vag-eena, learning a new offense/blocking scheme/defense, I’d say our performances on the field could have been worse. We’ve gotten blown out twice, once by Miami and then by a team with Peyton Manning as the QB.
We’ve kept up with every team we have played against, up until the second half, where we have seemed to unravel. Penalties are down and teams aren’t running all over us like they have in the past, which was a HUGE problem last year.
Also, having a carousel of coaches really impedes the players learning and believing in any system that is installed. Some of these players have seen more faces come through than a busy prostitute.
Got to give some credit to DA, he at least is starting to recognize (albeit late) that the need for some power blocking plays for DMAC is essential to our offense. He also removed the green sticker and plays from McJogger.
If I’m wrong, it’s the bong and I shall smoke more later.
BTW, the triple D, E crew=
The Disgruntled Debbie Downer Extremist.
Raider on!
Raiders 37
Jaguars 17
October 20th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RR
I know I told that guy to accept my trade after this week because I needed the players but he accepted it early and now I am f@cked
October 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
There are no gimmes in the NFL. Something tells me Jokesonville is going to come out fighting for their season as well.
October 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
ND 7-0 baby!
Mormons almost took us down, but their big game is nov 6th!
October 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Anyone in our ff league need a qb? I have rivers!
October 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Dakota Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Anyone in our ff league need a qb? I have rivers!
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Try the Average-ville No Rings. They want want him.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Kind of nice when no one is around. I wonder what’s in the fridge?
October 20th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Hahahaha, Bush.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
“Anyone in our ff league need a qb? I have rivers!”
I do
October 20th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
“ND 7-0 baby!
Mormons almost took us down, but their big game is nov 6th!”
LMAO good one
October 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
GO BUCKEYES!!!
Damn you Mich.
EFF ND!
October 20th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
666,
How do you think they’ll hold up at Oklahoma? That’s going to be a tough game for the Irish.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
279.Seymour Bush Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
There are no gimmes in the NFL. Something tells me Jokesonville is going to come out fighting for their season as well.
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I’m thinking the same thing. Not sure why some fans think it should be a Raider blow out. It’s almost like a battle of two of the worst teams in the NFL. I want a “W” tomorrow and I’d like to see a 35-3 spanking by the Raiders, I just don’t think it will go down like that. DA, Knapp and Tarver need to bring it. I also hope the coaching continues to make any neccessary changes.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
279.Seymour Bush Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
There are no gimmes in the NFL. Something tells me Jokesonville is going to come out fighting for their season as well.
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I’m thinking the same thing. Not sure why some fans think it should be a Raider blow out. It’s almost like a battle of two of the worst teams in the NFL. I want a “W” tomorrow and I’d like to see a 35-3 spanking by the Raiders, I just don’t think it will go down like that. DA, Knapp and Tarver need to bring it. I also hope the coaching continues to make any neccessary changes.
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The Raiders HAVE to get up on them early. If this game is 20-20 going into the fourth that could be a problem. Altho the Raiders have won some close games recently, as I wrote earlier a smaller very fast savvy vet back against a slow plodding POS LB is not the late game matchup I wanna see.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
One thing that none of you have been talking about is how the corners have gotten better and better over the last few weeks. Huff had a pretty good game last week. So did Lee.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Seymore Bush…
No sht, last week I was wondering why McSlo wasn’t in the game. I made an effort to watch him when he came back in and he ran into the backs of the DL.
What do the Raiders do with this guy, hope to go with a 3-4 next season or try to trade him?
October 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
A’s just got rid of Cliff Pennington for Chris Young btw.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Seymore Bush…
No sht, last week I was wondering why McSlo wasn’t in the game. I made an effort to watch him when he came back in and he ran into the backs of the DL.
What do the Raiders do with this guy, hope to go with a 3-4 next season or try to trade him?
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They can try to get something for him, but really I don’t think he has ANY value. You can go back two years on this blog and read my posts and I have been incredulous that a MLB can go out, play 70 snaps and have NO tackles. And give up 180 yards on the ground.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Seymore Bush…
No sht, last week I was wondering why McSlo wasn’t in the game.
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I noticed right away he wasn’t out there in the packages, and I also noticed the Raider defense was playing well. That was not a coincidence.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
“666,
How do you think they’ll hold up at Oklahoma? That’s going to be a tough game for the Irish.”
They might lose that game…I won money on Florida today I stayed away from the BYU Irish game the spread was to big (13)
October 20th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I guess at this point we can all breath a sigh of relief that the coaching staff is seeing the same thing with McClain.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
“russell wilson WAVE OF THE FUTURE” = QB RATING 34 10/18/12
October 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I guess at this point we can all breath a sigh of relief that the coaching staff is seeing the same thing with McClain.
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And then when the defensive staff can’t “coach him up” they are all let go. That is a relief.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I think Notre Dame is going to get blown out at Oklahoma. Barely beat an unbanked BYU!
Optimus Klein, clearly outplaying Geno Smith so far. Not too big of a fan of the way C.K winds up to throw the football though.
October 20th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Or unranked*
October 20th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
DA just coached up Wheeler/Burris to replace our 7th overall draft pick.
Everywhere I look I see signs that DA is doing a great job. Same with Reggie.
I am suprised more folks dont see it that way.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
DA just coached up Wheeler/Burris to replace our 7th overall draft pick.
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That’s actually Johnnie Holland. McKenzie brought Holland with him from Green Bay. Holland is responsible for guys like Clay Mathews and Desmond Bishop. McKenzie figured if Johnnie Holland can’t coach up McClain no one can. I guess no one can.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Maybe K State is good.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
yeah some fools in here would buy az ocean property if titts allen sold it to them…
October 20th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
FSU vs The U
Go Canes!
October 20th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
DA just coached up Wheeler/Burris to replace our 7th overall draft pick.
Everywhere I look I see signs that DA is doing a great job. Same with Reggie.
I am suprised more folks dont see it that way.
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1-4?!
October 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
FSU’s DL is great. All these kids are getting drafted.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Not only 1-4 but they inherited a #5 rushing team and top 9 offense and let it go down to almost dead last.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
1-4
I could easily see us being 3-2 whereas in years past I have felt the other way around. We barely won games last year and looked lousy doing it.
Last weeks game impressed me and only time will tell if I am right.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Raiders should draft this Calvin Klein kid. He is outplaying Geno Smith.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Raiders would 2-3 if they just scored 4 more points last week. It’s a shame.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Besides I drink my kool aid with extra sugar.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Robby Raider Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Raiders should draft this Calvin Klein kid. He is outplaying Geno Smith.
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Klien is playing against one of the worst defenses in Div 1.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Not only 1-4 but they inherited a #5 rushing team and top 9 offense and let it go down to almost dead last.
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Thank you.
Palmer had time to adjust and get in football shape, DMAC is healthy, but we are 1-4?!
GTFO with this BS.
Knapp turned a Ferrari (DMAC) into a Fiat. The guy was averaging 5+ ypc the last 2 seasons, and now he is around 3 ypc.
Pathetic!
October 20th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
This years team will play harder and better as the season progresses unlike last years team.
Thats my story and I am sticking to it
October 20th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
One thing that none of you have been talking about is how the corners have gotten better and better over the last few weeks. Huff had a pretty good game last week. So did Lee.
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I mentioned it. At least with Huff. I don’t see him being anything besides a below average FS. He might turn into an above average CB. Maybe even a shut-down corner? One can hope!
Hanson jumping that early pass was jaw-dropping and changed the entire game, IMO. Our corners on that side have been trailing the WR so often, I think it took Ryan completely by surprise.
Lee didn’t have that great of a game that I noticed.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
gnipp <—– Worst OCO in the NFL.
gnipp, and Mayor McCheese should have been fired/cut during the bye.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Raider O Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
FSU’s DL is great. All these kids are getting drafted.
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They always produce monsters on defense. One of my favorites to watch was Peter Boulware.
I remember I met Tony Bryant while I was on vacation in Key West, a long time ago. I told him,”I might be the only Raider fan you’ll come across in this town. I love my Raiders, good luck this season.”
Gave him a half hug and a pound/handshake…Made my night!
You guys remember Tony Bryant? Lol
October 20th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
I bet the Raiders even though their dismal record vs spread as a Fav simply gambling that the no-huddle will suddenly reappear at home.
If it does, I see a blow out.
If not we will be looking at the prevent again last two minutes praying for once it works.
I simply don’t understand how this coaching staff doesn’t see how much more effective Palmer is calling his own plays.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
“This years team will play harder and better as the season progresses unlike last years team.”
I can buy into that and yes that would be an improvement over seasons past seeing real live progress!
October 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Geno pizza Smith and Matt the Mutt Barkley are top 5 on most draft boards where Optimus is not expected to go in the first round.
That may change if he keeps this up
October 20th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
1-4
I could easily see us being 3-2 whereas in years past I have felt the other way around. We barely won games last year and looked lousy doing it.
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LOL Long Live the SA.
We were 4-2 before DMAC was injured. We are 1-4 this year and we have Palmer (people think is better than JC, so they have raised their expectations), we have a healthy DMAC, and we have our OC from last year on the staff, so what is the problem?
Coaching/ scheme and execution.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I can buy into that and yes that would be an improvement over seasons past seeing real live progress!
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Dont forget about Cable doing it
October 20th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
322.Plunketthead Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Geno pizza Smith and Matt the Mutt Barkley are top 5 on most draft boards where Optimus is not expected to go in the first round.
That may change if he keeps this up
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Collin Klein is the wave of the future.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
LOL at Mistic trying to sell us on Geno Smith being an athletic QB.
I like him as a top 10 draft pick, because he is a throwback pocket passer.
I compare him to a Matt Ryan/Drew Bledsoe type, extremely accurate intermediate thrower.
But runner? I just saw the K-State DE outrun him.
Look at the Cam Newton, Tebow, Alex Smith, Ponder, RGIII, Locker (the most athletic QB’s in the NFL) collegiate offense.
Every 3rd and 1 was a designed QB draw. Like 95% of the time. Geno Smith absolutely NEVER does that.
Why? He is like Matt Ryan and Drew Bledsoe, not comfy with the ball tucked.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Don’t know how much they will run that nickel package tomorrow considering the Jags weapon is a rb. Let’s see how much 55 gets on the field tomorrow. They should be running mostly base, if he’s out more than usual the writing on the wall is in permanent ink.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Never seen Geno play, but I do know that Derek Carr is gonna throw for 400 plus against New Mexico next Saturday.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I am scared of ALL college QB’s… Gino torretta included.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Morilla, good point.
Not sure who would take his spot though. Goethel?
October 20th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
We need to stop MJD tomorrow to win.
October 20th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Collin Klein is the wave of the future.
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He is playing against a high school D today…
He continues to do this the rest of the sea, he will draw some serious looks.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I’m not buying the nickle package of benching McClain excuse… because he’s even MORE of a liability against the run than against the pass… and that isn’t easy to achieve.
If they think McClain is in any way important into stopping Jones-Drew… It will be one long drunk afternoon for me again.
The only time I remember McClain being anything besides a liability is the few times he blitzed.
This defense is improved with him watching on the sidelines.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
332.Thec Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Collin Klein is the wave of the future.
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He is playing against a high school D today…
He continues to do this the rest of the sea, he will draw some serious looks.
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That was sarcasm Thec, sorry. Shoulda put an lol on the end there
October 20th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Morilla, good point.
Not sure who would take his spot though. Goethel?
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Gdog Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I’m not buying the nickle package of benching McClain excuse… because he’s even MORE of a liability against the run than against the pass… and that isn’t easy to achieve.
If they think McClain is in any way important into stopping Jones-Drew… It will be one long drunk afternoon for me again.
The only time I remember McClain being anything besides a liability is the few times he blitzed.
This defense is improved with him watching on the sidelines.
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Yeah, it does seem odd for them to use that as the reason. Because I also saw them out there running their base and I think Goethel was in. I agree, 55 is also a liability in the run. Too many say that is a strong point. He blows left and right unless the play comes to him.
Maybe well see more Goethel or maybe even Curry. They said he’s been learning the middle.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Rolando Mcclain isn’t playing very good.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
I will be suprised if Klein last till the second round
October 20th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Geno Smith may not be best QB in draft.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Chances are the chefs pick up Barkley or Smith.
We may be seeing lots of Geno
October 20th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I will still ride with my initial draft choice Aaron Murray.
Would love to get him in the 2nd round if possible. If not, that Stills WR from OU can ball for us.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
This is the first time I have actually seen Gino Smith play. I am not impressed. I would rather give Pryor a shot and see what he could do.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I will still ride with my initial draft choice Aaron Murray.
Would love to get him in the 2nd round if possible. If not, that Stills WR from OU can ball for us.
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You better work some magic, as we do not have a 2nd.
Get on the phone with the Reggie, and make it so.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
2nd rd??????
WR in what rd?
We need an OT in rd 1.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Major Harris was a Raider.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Unless Raiders trade DMac, no RBs or WRs should be drafted. It is all about lineman and DBs and LBs and QBs.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I wonder if James Wilder Jr is impressing the Raider scouts? Love the way he runs and he has a mean stiff arm. Don’t like that he has Harvey Williams’ neck.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Geno Smith is kind of unattractive.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Colts, Raiders, Packers, and Bears?
October 20th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
first game playing an inferior opponent.
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@JFB
what makes the Jags inferior to the Raiders?
both teams have won exactly 1 game this season.
last time we faced them, we lost.
we wont know which team is better until the game ends on Sunday!
is it a must win and a game we “should” win?
absolutely. If we want to advance to the playoffs, it’s essential to dispose of every opponent we face with a .500 or worse record.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
blind and stupid is no way to run a team….
October 20th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
You better work some magic, as we do not have a 2nd.
Get on the phone with the Reggie, and make it so.
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Good point, though it says here The Reggie will find a way to end up with a 2nd round draft pick.
For a later round flyer, this UNM Lobo RB Casey Carrier just ran for 350 yards, breaking LT’s MWC single-game record.
He makes people miss.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
And holy crap was that #4 for K-State impressive.
Not sure if he is big enough for LB at the NFL, but he can tackle.
Talk about jumping off the screen.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
We need an OT in rd 1.
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@Jhill
zbs o-liners can be found in the later rounds!!
October 20th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
2013 Draft
rd 1 Best D player on the board
rd 2 Best D player on the board or Oline Trenchmen
rd 3 Best D player on the board
rd 4 Best D player on the board
rd 5 Best D player on the board
rd 6 Best D player on the board
rd 7 Best D player on the board
October 20th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
common thread with winners this year????
A good D
October 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Wow,Mystic really has gotten to many on here.He isn’t around and you still can’t talking about him and his fantasies.
J Hill-a LBer or a Pass rushing DE should be our 1st pick next year,not an OT.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
I think we can put the “draft Geno” talk to rest once and for all. What a joke. Can’t believe anyone ever thought he was #1 overall material. Welcome to the Big 12, Mr. Smith. You suck.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
2013 Draft
1sr round – Offensive Coordinator
October 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Walter Football 2013 mock has us picking #5 and taking the NT from Utah, Star Loutelalialalalala whatever.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I would prefer Eric Reid from LSU though.
That’s my first round pick hopeful I will talk about for the next 6 months, lol.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Raiders will not be picking #5 overall unless they trade up. That’s crap. Mark this post.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Loutelalialalalala whatever.
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lol…If a pass rushin DE grades above latoolei, i take the pass rusher. LB is next up.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
I’m more than confident saying we draft much lower than #5.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
2013 Draft
1sr round – Offensive Coordinator
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I hear Hue Jackson is available!
paired with Al Saunders again?
more than likely though we’ll hire some college kid we’ve never heard of. Rookie OC to pair with all the 2nd year guys (McKenzie, Allen, Tarver)
October 20th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
2013 draft sould be 100% dedicated to the D.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I think we pick 32nd and draft the BPA
October 20th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
1-3
2-2
3-1
3-1
October 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
daym this is low…talking next years draft in the first half of the prior season…
October 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I don’t see the need to draft a NT #5, when teams are running the ball less and less with each season, and throwing on 3rd and 1 more than ever.
We need DB’s, lots of them.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I don’t see the need to draft a NT #5, when teams are running the ball less and less with each season, and throwing on 3rd and 1 more than ever.
We need DB’s, lots of them
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And players that can get to the QB.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
We talk draft about 300 days a year, especially on Saturdays.
I think we have pretty much beat the dead horse on tomorrow’s game. We know what we need to do.
Only thing left to do is continue to whine about the OC, which is not my flavor.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I don’t see the need to draft a NT #5, when teams are running the ball less and less with each season, and throwing on 3rd and 1 more than ever.
We need DB’s, lots of them
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Agreed…
DE’s, LB’s, and Cb’s
October 20th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
We need DB’s, lots of them.
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what about the 6 or 7 players “The Reggie” brought in??
October 20th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Wow, busier day than I planned on and gotta do 3 hours tomorrow before the game and a couple more after. Haven’t been here for many hours, what did I miss?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Only offensive person I pick up is a coordinator.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice to have someone like Dumerville(?) or J.Allen?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
J Hill-a LBer or a Pass rushing DE should be our 1st pick next year,not an OT.
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I respectfully disagree.
Oline is the biggest issue on the team right now. We got Wheeler as a low budget FA and Burris in what, rd 4?
I happen to think Curry will be our OLB off the edge that provides that speed. I don’t see a rookie coming in and replacing any if those 3.
I’d like to see us address the Oline with a 1st rd pick and some nice FA dollars. We need TWO starters.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice to have someone like Dumerville(?) or J.Allen?
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Yep…Thats why the 2013 draft wil be dedicated to the D side…
October 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
lefty12 Says: Wow,Mystic really has gotten to many on here.He isn’t around and you still can’t talking about him and his fantasies.========================
Gave mistic his due last night.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Only thing left to do is continue to whine about the OC
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Knapp isn’t the reason we lost to SD or ATL and he is CERTAINLY the reason we beat Pittsburg!
October 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Huff and Adams held 2 of the best WRs in the league in check last weekend.
Why do we need corners?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
time to run…you guys be safe…Enjoy the weekend.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
We can draft that Mandingo guy from LSU.
Not sure if he is a pure speed edge rusher though.
As always, it’s all about value with the 1st round pick. As bad as I want an edge rusher or a DB/S, with a top 10 pick, you have to get either the #1 or #2 prospect at their respective position.
If it is a Guard, so be it I say. I don’t want the #4 rated CB or DE with the 11th pick in the draft.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Reggie should get some draft picks for McClain & Branch, even if they are late rounders.
both turds purged, plus Seymour’s contract coming off the books should give BigMac plenty of dough & picks to patch up the D imo
October 20th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
A quick scroll and scan to this morning looks like all football talk. And I missed it. Dam! well , keep it up and I’ll catch up.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
J Hill,agree to disagree unless some super stud is there when we pick which I believe will be in the middle rounds just like the last couple of years.If when it is our pick if the very best player is clearly an OL I would agree.If the choice is this guy or that guy,I’d like to see more defensive talent drafted.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Nobody in the NFL trades super-valuable draft picks for players who are overpaid.
The only thing McClain and Branch could fetch is someone else’s bad contract.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
lefty12 Says: Wouldn’t it be nice to have someone like Dumerville(?) or J.Allen?==============================
J.J.Watts?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RRS,do you honestly believe we could get anything for McLain at this point in time.I supported him but have come to realize he is another Alabama bust.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
With the 32nd overall pick of the draft, The Oakland Raiders pick…
Well at least I can have my dilutions.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
@Qodrn
Dirty Pirates 30
Kitty Cats 17
McFadden runs for 120 & 2 scores. MJD runs for 90 (1 TD) and gets another 70 receiving. Gabbert throws for 1 score and also throws 2 INT’s. losses a fumble
Palmer throws for 300+ again and throws 1 TD. 2 INT’s
sacked 3 times. Reece converts at least 3 first downs
October 20th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I like Branch. McClain, I’d trade for the the brass he’s left behind.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Attn: JFB & Lefty
yes – I think #55 and #33 have some trade value
they can restructure contracts and start for new teams
might get a 5th or 6th for each player imo
October 20th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
might get a 5th or 6th for each player imo
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Absolutely……..if said 5th or 6th is in 2019
October 20th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Raiders 33-10
October 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raiders 31….. Cats 13…..
October 20th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
McClain will fetch a 7th round pick, just like Curry.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
I think a 3-4 team would certainly trade for McClain.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I think a switch to a 3-4 and wait and see might be the best bet for McClain.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Why would a team trade for McClain at 4 million for next year, when they could draft one in the 2nd round or later for anywhere between a 25-90% discount?
And with a possible suspension looming and a first strike in the conduct policy?
No chance, IMO
October 20th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I agree that we will have a pick in the middle or lower.
Perfect spot to get a starting RT, C, or OG.
Or a WR.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I don’t think anybody would trade for McClain’s contract
October 20th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Keep forgetting aboujt that 5 million dollar salary next year.
Yeah, no one is paying that for a 3-4 ILB.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I don’t think anybody would trade for McClain’s contract
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I think he gets released before traded.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
From the day we drafted 55, I said we would switch to the 3-4. How could this guy be asked to 4-3 MLB at his size for going on 3 years?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The Raiders get no productivity from their first round picks. Some of these guys were can’t miss draft picks.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
And if The Reggie is calling you, looking to nab a 6th rounder for McClain, you have to know that he will probably be released if no trade can be found, then you can get him at a more reasonable salary and save the draft pick.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Evening Fellas,
Raiders 30 plus
Jags 21 minus
As I was scrolling past most of the thread I caught a glimps of a response to Mistic from JFB regarding the new wave and the Kid QB Smith.
I don’t know a damn thing about Him, I don’t watch college football.
I’d just say that if you want a QB that can run, then compare ALL of those dudes to Bobby Douglass.
Dude was a bad ass, but couldn’t throw the route tree accurately. Massive arm as well.
As for me, give me a guy that can threaten a D with legs, arm, (accuracy and touch), and most important Brains.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I think for McClain to be back with The Raiders next year he would have to renegotiate his contract.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
JFB,
I thought “double nickle” was a rising star??
nobody would even give a 6th for him and re-do his existing deal?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
Some of these guys were can’t miss draft picks.
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I think McClain is the only one in recent memory declared as “can’t miss”. Pretty sure all the others were considered reaches at best.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
If we aren’t going to the 3-4, might was well let dude walk.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
I think the opposite of Slo in a 3-4 though, I think they will tell him to put on 5-10 pounds and move to the outside.
And just like last week, he will be pulled off the field in obvious passing downs.
I don’t think he gets off interior blockers (O-lineman) well enough for the inside. Put him on the outside on TE’s and tell him to just hold the edge and rush the backfield otherwise.
Not a read and react, disengage the G and make a play type of guy.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Aaron Curry’s situation is very similar to McClain’s.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
I think McClain is the only one in recent memory declared as “can’t miss”. Pretty sure all the others were considered reaches at best.
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Gallery and Huff were both considered “Can’t Miss.”
October 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
No one is trading for Slo.
The tea leaves say out of the NFL or in prison.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Mc Slow No Hustle… 17 plays…McClain
Sucker GM gives up a 4th.
Smart GM gives a 7th.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I wouldn’t mind having a look at him in a 3-4 but not at his salary level.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
The biggest “reach” of recent 1st rounders was DHB, and he might have turned out the best recently.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
‘06 Huff, ‘07 why bother, ‘08 McFadden, ‘09 Bey (Reach), and ‘10 McClain. Huff, McFadden, and McClain were can’t miss picks. All of them are busts.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
So I’ll ask again …
If Pitts switched to the 4-3 and asked Lamar Woodley to play every down as a MLB, how do you think he would look?
October 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Slo-mania is not getting paid $4 million next year, but for all his issues, he seems like a guy is not at all naive about his situation.
He will restructure if need be. And I think he gets one more go at it next year.
Tomorrow is a big day and a big “Tell” into what the staff has in store for the future of Slo-mania.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Restructure McSlowJog’s contract and draft the pieces needed to be able to line up in multiple fronts/formations next year.
I think that’ll be the way to go.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
From the day we drafted 55, I said we would switch to the 3-4. How could this guy be asked to 4-3 MLB at his size for going on 3 years?
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@Jhill
who would play NT in a 3-4 and who would be the other ILB?
if you say Burris, who takes the OLB he leaves open?
Keenan Clayton, Travis Goethel or Vic So’oto ??
October 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
The team has drafted really bad in recent years.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
The team should draft for filling a 3-4 base defense. The team had no picks to do this last draft.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I don’t think he gets off interior blockers (O-lineman) well enough for the inside. Put him on the outside on TE’s and tell him to just hold the edge and rush the backfield otherwise.
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The reason he doesn’t get of OG’s is because He lacks the aggressive nature to use his hands and fight off the block.
If He were a Lady, we’d refer to him as a Lazy fuuuuk.
No action, just goin thru the motion, laying there.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
The ONE thing I’m looking forward to is us drafting players that play the actual position we are trying to fill.
Lamar Houston is a DT playing DE
Branch is a corner trying to learn the S position STILL.
55 is an ILB trying to play MLB.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
81- big difference is Curry always seems to be giving his best effort.Not saying McClain doesn’t.Maybe he is and he just isn’t that good.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Len, you leave my wife out of the convo!!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
J Hill Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
So I’ll ask again …
If Pitts switched to the 4-3 and asked Lamar Woodley to play every down as a MLB, how do you think he would look?
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Is Lamar Woodley a lazy fuuuck that can’t get off a block? IDK
October 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
who would play NT in a 3-4 and who would be the other ILB?
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We’ve had 3 drafts to get that figured out, and still no answers.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
The ONE thing I’m looking forward to is us drafting players that play the actual position we are trying to fill.
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Absolutely, starting with a RT who actually played RT in college.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
428
Amen to that.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Len, you leave my wife out of the convo!!!!!!
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Ha! Buy a cattle prod and use it with discretion.
Gotta wear a 10 gallon hat however….Hoss.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Tomorrow is a big day and a big “Tell” into what the staff has in store for the future of Slo-mania.
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Agreed, if they keep #55 on the bench (I don’t think they will) when we’re facing a run-first team like JAX, and we do well shutting down MJD ??
he’s toast.
I also think he knows his situation, but he doesn’t agree with it. If he keeps thinking he’s a great player, how would he accept a demotion or a reduction to playing time? He’s just saying “I’ll make the most of whatever time I get” because he wants to sound like a team player. Smart move, really
October 20th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I agree that McClain looks as if he is in slow motion. Their situations are very similar. Two high draft picks with little productivity. Curry commanded a 7th round pick. What will McClain get? I say roll the dice install a base 3-4 next season.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I kid I kid.
Too much Married with Children growing up.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Bey is a sprinter trying to play WR.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
big difference is Curry always seems to be giving his best effort.
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How do you guys determine effort?
Curry is SOOOO much more athletic than 55. Faster, stronger, etc.
So is Wheeler.
55 is much bigger than those guys, so of course he’s slower and more of a lumberer.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
He’s just saying “I’ll make the most of whatever time I get” because he wants to sound like a team player. Smart move, really
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When I say that he wasn’t on the field consistantly for the first time in his career, I looked for him on the sidelines and honestly expected to see him standing by himself, helmet off, disengaged.
Instead he was ALWAYS at the LOS, right next to Tarver, fully engaged in the game, and the first person on the field to congratulate teammates.
Maybe it was a major reality check, or maybe he is a tad too comfy being a cheerleader.
We shall see.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
LOL, JFB & Len
gotta class it up a bit. comedian Ron White says he has to make love to his wife while wearing his best suit, because she wont touch him naked
October 20th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I have an affinity for Al Davis draft picks, but man did they suck.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I kid I kid.
Too much Married with Children growing up.
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LOL
Al & Peg Bundy touched a nerve or two with couples back in the day. lol
October 20th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I think the big day for 55 is when they activate Curry.
Goethel isn’t taking 55’s snaps. They would have done that outta the bye week, wouldn’t you say?
October 20th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
I don’t think McClain is bad.. just the condition he has will never let him succeed on the field
October 20th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
LOL, JFB & Len
gotta class it up a bit. comedian Ron White says he has to make love to his wife while wearing his best suit, because she wont touch him naked
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Ha! I like Ron White.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Goethel is not in the plans.
It’s not a good combo, being undersized AND slow.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
I hope he never long snaps in the NFL again.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
J Hill Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I think the big day for 55 is when they activate Curry.
Goethel isn’t taking 55’s snaps. They would have done that outta the bye week, wouldn’t you say?
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Agree J Hill.
Love Wheeler, Like Burris, Need another 1 or 2 to complete the picture.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
I think the big day for 55 is when they activate Curry.
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Curry’s knees are shot and his conditioning is poor. I’d be surprised if he’s activated in the next 3 weeks
If he somehow gets it all together and replaces McClain??
yeah – kiss 55 goodbye
October 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
On another note, told y’all Ws fans you should’ve traded Curry 2 summers ago while his stock was ridiculously high.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
I will never let Goethel live that down.
I think he volunteered to be the emergency LS, to make himself look like a great teammate, then never took it serious enough to fire off 10-15 snaps after practice here and there.
How long would that really take? 5 minutes?
THAT POS COULDN’T EVEN GIVE US 5 MINUTES!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Don’t know where the idea that an ILB doesn’t have to motor – or that playing ILB is so dramatically different than playing MLB – springs from.
Slo doesn’t have what it takes to play in the NFL. Despite what Slo thinks the NFL is a step above the SEC.
Slo has horrible footspeed. He lumbers. His lateral pursuit is non-existent. He quits on plays. He might be a film junkie but his instincts stink.
He’ll be the same smelly turd at ILB as he is at MLB.
It’s rare that you can unhesitatingly release such a high pick and have absolutely no concern that he’ll succeed elsewhere.
As a GM, I’d have no trepidations about releasing Slo and having to face him down the line.
None whatsoever.
Same as JaMoron.
Slo out of the NFL and making crime blotter news by 2014 at the latest.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Goethel makes me miss Ricky Brown & Sam Williams, honestly
October 20th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
geno smith WAVE OF THE FUTURE = LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Doesn’t really matter about 55 one way or the other.
LBs are easy to find.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
I haven’t watched a minute of preseason hoops or even read an article on anything, but I will go out on a limb and assume my Dubs will be about 7-15 before I start to pay attention.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Goethel is not in the plans.
It’s not a good combo, being undersized AND slow.
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Agree.
When drafted I thought maybe good Football IQ would enable him to overcome ala Bruschi.
Not so.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Imagine if the Broncos had drafted McClain.
Weren’t they the most interested team, besides the Titans & Giants?
October 20th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I thought Bruschi was kind of fast, at least coming into the league?
October 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
geno smith WAVE OF THE FUTURE = LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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Bump. LMFAO!!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Imagine if the Broncos had drafted McClain.
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Somewhere there is a Darrent Williams joke there, but I will let it rest.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Javon Walker volunteered to take McClain to Vegas and spend his new found fortunate next season.. from 900k to $4 million ??
October 20th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I don’t see any comparison to Russell.
Is 55 falling asleep in meetings?
Your main beef is the guy is Slo, lol.
Well, again, when Cable introduced us to him right after we drafted him, he said the guy is as big as an offensive guard.
Last I checked, offensive guards are that fleet of foot.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I still like Geno Smith as a pro QB, due to his pocket accuracy on intermediate throws. It is top-shelf.
I just get a kick out of him being part of the wave of the future, when he is extremely unathletic.
Something tells me if he was Geno Colignerio from Long Island instead of Geno Smith from Miami, he wouldn’t be invited on the wave of the future bus.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
All I’m saying is the guy was an all world ILB outta college.
Would have been nice to see him play ILB for us.
Oh well.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
If Greg Knapp was Al Bundy’s OC at Polk High, Al wouldn’t have scored 4 TD’s his entire career, much less in one game.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
COLLIN KLEIN WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!! = he dominates “monkey smith”
October 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I thought Bruschi was kind of fast, at least coming into the league?
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I tried to find a time via google and came up empty, but my recollection is that He lacked “measurables” the primary one of which, would be speed.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Knapp couldn’t have slowed down Bundy, he ran over Too Tall Jones for that 4th TD!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I’ll take your word for it Len, it carries some weight.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
geno smith = byron leftwitch = wave of the future = DUMB SPEARTHROWING LOSERS
October 20th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
If Greg Knapp was Al Bundy’s OC at Polk High, Al wouldn’t have scored 4 TD’s his entire career, much less in one game.
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LMFAO! Fuuuuk. That’s funny.
Literally LOL.
Thanks 99!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says: Gallery and Huff were both considered “Can’t Miss.”=========================================
Only one talking head had reservations about Jarassic. EVERYBODY else said draft him.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
ANDREW LUCK = WAVE OF THE FUTURE !!!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Linebackers
Justin Durant-Detroit
Bradie James-Houston Texans
Erin Henderson-Minnesota
Anthony Spencer-Dallas Cowboys
Any of these 2013 UFA interest you guys?
October 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Al Bundy would have gone out of bounds, picked up Knapp, and carried him and the football into the end zone!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
We were doing fine without you, sully.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Not really, maybe James.
We came out pretty golden on the Wheeler FA deal, can’t imagine hitting the flush draw on the river again, the next offseason.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I don’t see any comparison to Russell.
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Really ?
Let me open your eyes then.
They’re both EPIC BUSTS.
How’s that for a comparison point ?
October 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Out of all the UFA linebackers, Wheeler was the most productive.
Love the “missle on two wheelers”!
October 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Has been*
October 20th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Reggie is gonna hook Wheeler up with some $$$.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
JFB,
Giants -122 over Carpenter tmw.
3 in a row on the verge of elimination and into the WS ?
October 20th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I’ll take your word for it Len, it carries some weight.
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I appreciate that JFB.
Good luck, and much success with the CFA.
I enjoy, and am pleased by observing growth in others.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
-122 with the inferior pitcher is not much value, and the RL is probably +175 or something enticing, but that’s probably a loser too.
I am seeing a 3-2 win in the 10th inning.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Damn Hurricanes.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Giants 6
Cardinals 3
October 20th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Actually did some work for Willie McCovey way back in the day.
Nice Guy.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Gotta go play some sort of drinking game with my Son and His Buddies now. lol
It’s in my garage, so I might be back…lol
October 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
If it goes to game 7, we will have to take down my fellow Butte College Fighting Roadrunner, Kyle Lohse.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Doubt that any team has ever won 3 in a row in consecutive playoff series to avoid elimination and move on.
Quite a story if they pull it off.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
J,
Lamarr Woodly will play DE if the steelers play 4-3. He was a DE in college.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
It will be sweet if the Giants force a game seven. I think the Cardinals will have the life sucked out of them if there is a game seven in S.F.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Actually did some work for Willie McCovey way back in the day.
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Saw McCovey hit a line drive HR off the Shea Stadium scoreboard that I swear was still rising.
Awesome jack.
Hard for me to get very excited about baseball since I’m a Met fan – but this year’s playoffs have been pretty entertaining.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Damn the wife and I were doing a little pre-planning for our SF trip, and wanted to go to Fior D’Italia, but see it just closed.
The place is open for 125 years, and closes 5 months before I am set to go, lol.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I always end up laid out on the grass somewhere when I play those drinking games.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Butte College, I believe it’s the largest junior college in the state.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
1 mile in Chico. The made the creek into a pool. A concrete pool in the creek. Bidwell park is a must see if you live in Cali.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I always end up laid out on the grass somewhere when I play those drinking games.
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That’s fun if you’re a youngster.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Actually did some work for Willie McCovey way back in the day.
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Saw McCovey hit a line drive HR off the Shea Stadium scoreboard that I swear was still rising.
Awesome jack.
Hard for me to get very excited about baseball since I’m a Met fan – but this year’s playoffs have been pretty entertaining.
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This is how I feel about the Raiders. I always watch the games though.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Damn Hurricanes.
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Yeah, no crap aye! Oh well, they’re starting 2 deep all Fr. and So. players.
Wish they’d open it up like they did a few games ago though.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
You just don’t want to be at the bottom end of 1 mile, down stream of all the kids peeing in it.
Bidwell is awesome though. We use to smoke there all the time, go wander around the Cork Forrest, etc.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
randall cunningham = wave of the future! = postseason record 3-6 = LOSER!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
warren moon = wave of the future! = postseason record 3-7 = LOSER!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
It’s flowing, albeit slowly. I take my daughter there all the time. Bidwell park is beautiful.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
vince young = wave of the future! = postseason record 0-1 = LOSER!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
503
Seriously! All of the sudden they went from airing it out, to making me think Greg Knapp was calling the plays live, via Oakland. Check down city! Oh well, we’ll be a team to deal with in the next few years.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
tarvaris jackson = wave of the future! = postseason record 0-1 = LOSER!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Damn the wife and I were doing a little pre-planning for our SF trip, and wanted to go to Fior D’Italia, but see it just closed.
The place is open for 125 years, and closes 5 months before I am set to go, lol.
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Acquerello is pretty darn good.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
YO HO HO DUDES
missus b aint been around in awhile. i told yawl bout my duece i dropped in aisle three at the local supermarket. “cleen up on aisle three”. HOLLA
well all 240 pounds of my luv muffins had to do 10 days in the slammer. word. the food was so bad all i could do was drop little pooplets if i wasn’t havin the runs. word.
but whoa babe did i make some friends.
GOTS TO GO AND DROP A REAL DUECE NOW. MISSUS B IS BACK
October 20th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
How many “wave of the future baboons” played in the post season last year?
October 20th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
In 90+ years of the NFL…17 “wave of the future monkeys” have played in the post season…and what a record they have!!! 34-46 .425 LMAO!!!!…..yeah if you want to LOSE 60% of your games get that MONKEY QB!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Doug Williams says kiss the ring bee otch!
October 20th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
FOBIZZLE
missus b is extreemly excited to tailgate and be at the game tomorrow. u know she is gonna tie one on for reals. holla is gonna be my escort to make sure i dont drop a duece, anywhere. my raids is gonna put a can of whoopass on the jags. word
CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE, LOL
October 20th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
SHIZZLE ON MY WIZZLE
and missus b thought she was takin white trash to a new level. whooda thunk. shіt.
SHIBIZZLE SHIZZLE
October 20th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I always end up laid out on the grass somewhere when I play those drinking games.
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me too. even rolled over on a pile of duece and didn’t even kno about it til one of my co-workers the next day said i stunk.
KEEPIN IT REALZ YAWL
October 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE, LOL
October 20th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
LOL Jerry Mac just put all you armchair coaches in your place. Hahahaha.
October 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
#77 needs to figure it out.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
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Who wants to have a good time
So bring your good times, and your laughter too
We gonna celebrate your party with you
ARE YOU READY
Are y’all ready for some football
Gonna have a good time
Raiders Baby
We’re gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let’s celebrate, it’s all right
We’re gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let’s celebrate, it’s all right
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October 20th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Mr. Green. I missed ya!
October 20th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Just came back after two hours and sully fcked the whole blog up, but , Mr. Green, we can ignore him and reclaim it.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
fangsraiders Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
“russell wilson WAVE OF THE FUTURE” = QB RATING 34 10/18/12============================================
sully, part one.
bigsnow81 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Doug Williams says kiss the ring bee otch!
sully, part two
October 20th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Hadn’t thought about it before, but sully could well be beachem. He’s so section 8, that one of his personas might actually be funny on occasion. It would make sense, since most of his sock puppet army are almost suicidally depressive. Has to be a light side somewhere in Sybils brain or he would have ended his mothers grief by now. Kudos, MR, but now we know.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Congrats, Goldenjew, you killed it. Now what are you gonna do?
October 20th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Doug Williams says kiss the ring bee otch! ==== LMAO….one freak event in 100 years….even a BROKEN clock is right TWICE a day
October 20th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Is Mr. Smile, Sully when he’s taking all his meds? He seems “fine and dandy” and you know what George Carlin says about that….
October 20th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
How many “wave of the future baboons” played in the post season last year? ============= …that answer is ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
And for those skiming this, I told you (Dr_robert in particular) famgsraiders was the Sullen one.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
rae carruth = KILLED his pregant girlfriend….its what THEY do best!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
steven jackson = beat up his pregant girlfriend…its waht they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
phillip merling = beat up his pregnant girlfriend…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says: Is Mr. Smile, Sully when he’s taking all his meds? He seems “fine and dandy” and you know what George Carlin says about that….===================
Possible, but I doubt it. Could be a reaction to the first wave of euphoria of his anti-depressants. He’s kinda incapable of that degree of glee, barring a 69er superbowl win.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
jermaine phillips = strangled his wife..its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
shawn merriman = choked his girlfriend..its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
erik walden= sexual assault..its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Timothy Mcveigh blew Americans up in a Federal Building, what’s your point? He was as white as the sheets you cut holes through and cover your head with like a coward.
Leave the nonsense for the Klan blog, Fangs.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
perrish cox = sexual assault…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
chris terry = assault on wife…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Timothy Mcveigh ======= didn’t know he played in the NFL and made MILLIONS playing a game!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Timothy Mcveigh = AMERICAN HERO!!!…he took action against the JEW COMMIES who are DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!!!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
leonard little = vehicular murder
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
dante stallworth = vehicular murderer
October 20th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Mr. Green. I missed ya!
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October 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
larry johnson = choking a female…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I always end up laid out on the grass somewhere when I play those drinking games.
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HAHAHAHAH ROFLMAO
October 20th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
fangsraiders Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
larry johnson = choking a female…its what they do best!
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Take a chill pill man …relax it’s just a life
October 20th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Leave the nonsense for the Klan blog, Fangs. === so you CALL MURDER/RAPE/SEXUAL ASSAULT/DOMESTIC VIOLENCE….NONSENSE?…..you pathetic piece of trash
October 20th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says: Leave the nonsense.==================
Take your own advice and back away from the dissociatve personality disorder now.
Only thing that kills him is actual football talk.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
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Take a chill pill man …relax it’s just a life === see if that chill pill helps you when your home gets invaded or your daughter gets raped by these pavement apes
October 20th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
C’mon mcfadden20., its difficult to keep up with my younger brothers’ friends! LOL Flip cup, beer pong, etc etc. No more can do and that’s probably in between a bong hit.
I’ll stick to jack and coke or a nice scotch with water.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
So with Bartell ‘designated to return’, is
Jford out for the season? Can they switch(not that I would, necessarily)or is that binding? Had they listened to me(they never do)and put Ford on the pup list in pre-season, could he and Curry have both come back?
October 20th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
dez bryant = assaults his mother !!!…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
anthony smith = FOUR MURDERS !…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
lawrence taylor = rapist!…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:I always end up laid out on the grass somewhere when I play those drinking games.============
Must live someplace nice, no matter how drunk. I can get away with that in the summer here, but it rains(snow) too much.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
dave meggett = 3 time RAPIST…serving 30 years…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
lawrence phillips = another rapist!…its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Mr. Green, where’s my Raider logo on an IBAbuzz post? You give up?
October 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
chad johnson = assaulting girlfriend..its what they do best!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
P,
I think you could only designate one player to the ir who has the ability to play after a certain amount of games have passed.
And then I stumbled on to this, so I’m not sure:
Allen added that Ford — who has 44 receptions for 749 yards and three touchdowns in 24 games over two seasons — could potentially go on the new short-term injured reserve list and would hopefully be available to return later in the season.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
o.j. simpson = MURDERER!!!….he’s still looking for the killers
October 20th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
C’mon, MR’s meds will slow him down in a bit, or moms will come home with his new uncle and sidetrack him. Let’s keep it RAIDERS! Happy Carson Palmer Day + 2!
October 20th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
That’s what I’m not understanding. Here’s the Raiders rosterand scroll to the bottom.http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html
October 20th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Wow. That didn’t link, but you can copy and paste….http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html….just the Raider site and roster, anyway.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
1 player for preseason-A.C
1 player for regular season-Bartell
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October 20th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Reserve/Injured; Designated for Return Bartell, Ron.
Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform Curry, Aaron
Reserve/Injured 14 Calhoun, Duke
12 Ford, Jacoby
78 Hurd, Zach
2 King, Marquette
49 Kurn, Mario
October 20th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Yeah, that’s what I don’t get, ’cause I had the impression we were awaiting Fords return this year.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
“Tarver cited a big completion to Roddy White the previous week against Carolina and not wanting to duplicate that error.”
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This is what bothers me most about this coaching staff. What it all boils down to is playing not to lose. Playing to save face. Playing to hopefully keep your job as long as you can. Playing to look the part. These guys are guilty of that.
That’s not the Raider way. There’s a saying. Perhaps you’ve heard of it. Just win, baby.
It means a disregard for all this doubt, self-consciousness and second-guessing. It means knowing what it takes to win, and then executing it. Simple. Effective.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Speaking of wide receivers, I posted this earlier today….RaiderRockstar Says: better yet … re-sign Johnnie Lee !==
Higgins, Murphy, and Schillens, man, I really thought we were gonna have a WR corps that could even make Jarassic look good. Shows what I know.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
larry johnson = choking a female…its what they do best!
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I usually dont engage non-bipedals but what exactly do you mean “they”. From your rambling posts you keep saying “they”. Are you referring to African Americans? I assume so because I’ve read your drivle in other posts.
Do you want me to start listing white murders and criminals? We’ll be here all night. Take your kindergarten rhetoric elsewhere.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:08 am
My romanticized memories of the Raiders of the 80’s is that of dominating storybook characters. To an extent, they were, with the mad stork, Alzado(from the donkeys..eww) Howie, with the far away stare(watch out), Tooz, where do I stop? Truth is, we knew them as the cardiac kids ‘cuz it always came down to the last 2 minutes. Just like Atlanta. And we didn’t win every one. Just like Atlanta. Forcing a 55 yd field goal is not bad with 1 second left and there is only one kicker in the NFL I’d bet on in that situation and he is a RAIDER.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:10 am
Morilla, chill. Let sully do his thing and then go to bed or spy on his moms and his new uncle. He will tire without encouragement.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:16 am
Chris in NY Says: That’s not the Raider way. There’s a saying. Perhaps you’ve heard of it. Just win, baby. ===
Chris, I’m old and went to most games in LA and feel bad for anyone that hasn’t experienced Raider pride. It’s coming for you,too. They will ‘just win’ the next three for you. I guarantee it.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:18 am
Whoa, I’m owning Oct.21st. All Purv, all the time.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:19 am
I, unlike many of you in here, only started watching Raider football in 90-91, so I’ve never gotten to enjoy a Superbowl win. I dream of that day like no other because we’ve put up with so much Raider bashing for sooooo long and I just want to scream off the top of my lungs,” we are fck’n champs…Raiders!
October 21st, 2012 at 12:22 am
Told you sullyfangsdouche would wear out. He really is a pssy and I’m right up the hill from his Sactown basement dwelling a$$ and would love to buy him a cup of coffee or a beer if he’s old enough.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:24 am
Whoa, you signed on when we were looking good and got hammered by Buffalo in the AFC Championship and are still hanging tough? Good on you.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:26 am
Yes sir. I’ll always remember that day and how sad I felt. So I’m waiting to replace that memory with the hoisting of the Lombardi.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:48 am
It is not about “bringing it” on every down. It is about playing the way you played the entire game: Containment, without gaping zones of free space to pick up yards!
Besides this game was lost by clock mis-management. Why use time #1 with 48 seconds left. Should have let it run down to 30 seconds! At we MAY have had the ball last in OT. All hope was gone due to 10 seconds! DA is at fault!
October 21st, 2012 at 12:49 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Mr. Green, where’s my Raider logo on an IBAbuzz post? You give up?
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The task is much tougher than my talk. I will resume the arduous burden when the days stay darker longer and the weather is to inhospitable to be out doors. But give up, never. Perhaps months or even years late, but give up? No sir.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:54 am
If the Raider team that presented at Atlanta shows up today, then this is a WIN that brings us back to respectability, if nothing else. I will be happy to see CP get out of the “I am a loser” mentality. His mental breakdown in clutch situations will become his “identity” if he chokes later today.
October 21st, 2012 at 12:59 am
Generated algorithms previously when MR goes off and it doesn’t matter what he says, but the timing and frequency of his posts is hard to replicate. Unless you are ‘the Sullen one’. Told you Dr_robert, you boycotted MR and then he had you talking to him for the next three hours. There is a pattern here. fangsraiders Says:
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October 21st, 2012 at 1:00 am
Morilla Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
larry johnson = choking a female…its what they do best!
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I usually dont engage non-bipedals but what exactly do you mean “they”. From your rambling posts you keep saying “they”. Are you referring to African Americans? I assume so because I’ve read your drivle in other posts.
Do you want me to start listing white murders and criminals? We’ll be here all night. Take your kindergarten rhetoric elsewhere. ================================== Name ONE white NFL player convicted of RAPE or MURDER…..come’on genius show me your baboon intelligence.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:09 am
Mr Green Says: =======================================
Never say die. And these days ARE getting shorter and darker. Love summer, hate winter. 7:00 dawn, 6:00 dusk. Here in Grass Valley anyway. Keep on keeping on and I may get there first yet. You will get partial credit for keeping me on the right path. Nah, I don’t have a chance. But you make me smile when I see that ridiculous post and I know not to take any of this too seriously.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:11 am
Didn’t mean to wake you up, sully. Algorithms don’t lie.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:12 am
…all i hear is Crickets..chirp…chirp…what’s the matter Morilla [more like Gorilla]…you have NOTHING porch monkey.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:12 am
Hang in there, Miami. It’ll come.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:14 am
sirblitzalot , don’t entirely agree, but I love your handle.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:14 am
In 90+ years of the NFL…17 “wave of the future monkeys” have played in the post season…and what a record they have!!! 34-46 .425 LMAO!!!!…..yeah if you want to LOSE 60% of your games get that MONKEY QB!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 1:16 am
…just a reminder Gorilla…EVERYTHING you SEE and USE was INVENTED by the superior WHITE MAN….without US you are NOTHING.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:19 am
…without the WHITE man you would have NO computer that your hunting & pecking on to write your drivel….you’d still be chasing antelope with a crude spear with a bone thru your nose.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:21 am
…and remember you were slaves of your African brothers before you were slaves here…so go get your “Reperations’ from them! LMAO!!!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 1:24 am
More meds. More meds. More meds. The black boy in Sactown with issues in moms basement needs to get it all out. We can help him through this. He will be back to his irritating self tomorrow night telling us how we couldn’t possibly lose to the Jags. Just work with him, humor him or ignore him,
October 21st, 2012 at 1:25 am
A bullet to the heart didn’t kill him, didn’t even stop him from continuing to charge officers…
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Barret Robbins missed the Super Bowl due to a bipolar-fueled alcohol binge to Mexico the night before the game. Things went downhill for Robbins from there.
Robbins was charged with three counts of attempted felony murder after police were called due to his trespassing. Robbins was reportedly found crouching in a woman’s bathroom. He charged the officers, who shot him twice, with one bullet piercing his heart.
This was not enough to instantly subdue Robbins, as he slapped away the gun and knocked the officer, who shot him, to the ground.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:25 am
5 biggest snubs of the HOF 1) Stabler 2) Jerry Kramer 3) Mick Tinglehoff 4)Ken Riley 5) Bob Kuechenberg ….HOW THAT’S FOR SOME FOOTBALL TALK IDIOTS…LMAO!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 1:28 am
Barrett Robbins = NO WEAPONS = KILLED NO ONE ….try again IDIOT
October 21st, 2012 at 1:30 am
Jim Dunaway, white, NFL, murderer…
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Jim Dunway’s ex-wife was found dead in a swimming pool. Autopsy reports indicated that she died from a fractured skull prior to be being placed in the pool.
Dunaway was charged with murder, but not indicted. He later was found guilty in a wrongful death suit filed by his children.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:31 am
I have 84 NFL baboon criminals on my list….top that!
October 21st, 2012 at 1:31 am
Justin Strzelczyk, white, NFL…
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Strzelczyk has far from the longest rap sheet on this list. In fact, his placement revolves around one night. Strzelczyk was involved in an accident and fled the scene.
He then led cops on a 40-mile chase. During the chase he allegedly threw beer bottles at the officers and flipped them off. The chase ended when Strzelczyk crashed head-on into a semi truck carrying flammable liquids, resulting in the pictured aftermath and his death.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:32 am
Jerry Sandusky, white, Football…
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Child abuse
October 21st, 2012 at 1:33 am
Dam, Sully, you remind me of a friend who would fall down drunk and we’d put him on the couch or where ever, wipe our brows ,and gawdam if he wouldn’t pop back up and put us to work again. And remember none of it.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:34 am
Ben Roethlisberger, white, NFL, rapist…
October 21st, 2012 at 1:36 am
Here you go, a database of all known NFL players arrested…
http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/
October 21st, 2012 at 1:41 am
NONE of the white’s you listed EVER CONVICTED….keep trying moron…..for every ONE white you list i have 20 baboons to match….that’s why the prisons are 70% black….the more you try the dumber you look.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:46 am
GG Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 1:36 am
Here you go, a database of all known NFL players arrested…
http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/ ======= THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT!!!!…..the first 14 on the list are BABOONS!!!!…..AND i bet so are most of the rest!!!…way to stick your foot right in your mouth!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 1:47 am
ROTHLISBERGER = NO PROOF = NO CONVICTION = ALL HEARSAY….boy you sure are clutching to straws
October 21st, 2012 at 1:47 am
What’s the ratio of of african-americans to anglo-saxons playing NFL and NBA. That ratio difference results in such a discrepancy. What’s the ratio of NHL and MLB (and other usually more ‘white’ sports)? You’ll see a similar discrepancy in all those sports when it comes to convictions by whites.
You can do the same with other industries, like business, politics, religion, education, etc etc, and you’ll see that in white-centric industries, the conviction rates are similarly high as black-centric industries like football/athletics/etc.
Point being, mankind is no different. People with money/power/fame engage in many criminal activities.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:47 am
Sh1t,sully. You, me and GG for the last hour. G’nite.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:56 am
GG Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 1:47 am
What’s the ratio of of african-americans to anglo-saxons playing NFL and NBA. That ratio difference results in such a discrepancy. What’s the ratio of NHL and MLB (and other usually more ‘white’ sports)? You’ll see a similar discrepancy in all those sports when it comes to convictions by whites.
You can do the same with other industries, like business, politics, religion, education, etc etc, and you’ll see that in white-centric industries, the conviction rates are similarly high as black-centric industries like football/athletics/etc.
Point being, mankind is no different. People with money/power/fame engage in many criminal activities. ============ SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE LIBERAL APOLOGIST = TOTAL BULL$H!T !!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 1:59 am
FACTS = Baboons 12% of the population commit 70% of the VIOLENT CRIMES…..how’s that for your RATIO moron.
October 21st, 2012 at 2:01 am
check the FBI crime stats…its free to look!….numbers don’t LIE
October 21st, 2012 at 2:29 am
A lot of crime is enacted by the underclass, poor. For which the ratio of african-american/latino to anglo-saxon is higher.
Again, that only supports what I said before. Wherever there’s a ‘centricity’ in race, you’ll obviously get a statistic that is high.
It only validates that mankind as a whole is very similar. Everyone is equally prone to criminal behavior. And the environment/family thing has an influence. Put all the whites in ghettos and blacks in govt/business power, and you’d get the same result.
Your argument is typical of a mind looking at things over-simply.
October 21st, 2012 at 2:35 am
For example, to turn your racism around to something more football-related…
Tom Brady drafted by the Browns, with the environment of coaches and front-office, the “culture” of that org, he would’ve amounted to nothing.
Matt Cassel is a perfect example of the reverse — that season he had when Brady was out all year.
There’s always going to be a percentage of players who would’ve busted no matter, it’s in their mentality. Guys like Jamarcus, Leaf. They were too overawed, too immature, something mentally deficient in their make-up. Like say, Barret Robbins was always going to be a pro-bowler but also always going to end up with his off-field problems.
October 21st, 2012 at 3:17 am
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October 21st, 2012 at 3:59 am
yo Fangs,
who are you voting for in the election, just a few weeks away ??
October 21st, 2012 at 4:03 am
Fangs,
did you agree with Kiffin that we shouldn’t draft JaMarcus in ‘07 ??
were you upset when we traded for Jason Campbell?
what about Reggie McKenzie? bad hire?
no hope for Terrelle Pryor?
October 21st, 2012 at 4:09 am
If the Raider team that presented at Atlanta shows up today, then this is a WIN that brings us back to respectability, if nothing else. I will be happy to see CP get out of the “I am a loser” mentality. His mental breakdown in clutch situations will become his “identity” if he chokes later today.
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Sir – I agree. However, Palmer already wears that hat. He’s a gunslinger like Favre & Cutler. you gotta take the good with the bad. He’s gonna have a bunch of turnovers. I just hope that the offensive line gels and gets better, giving Palmer & McFadden a fighting chance. We have the 2006 o-line. We just happen to have better players at the skill positions and Knapp on his worst day trumps Tom Walsh
October 21st, 2012 at 4:16 am
Oct 21st 1805 – Nelson sent the message that “England expects every man to do his duty”.
That will mean nothing to my brothers on the other side of the pond but to this Englishman it means everything.
This might though……..Today the Raider Nation expects every Raider to do his duty.
Let’s leave no doubt.No let up.I want the jags hammered today from the first play till the last.I want to drink from the keg of Victory.
October 21st, 2012 at 4:22 am
Chris In NY #571
another Palmer apologist?
Defense played a great game versus the RED HOT falcons
Offense didn’t manage anything the first half. Defense put us in position to win. Honestly if the offense played the 1st half like the 2nd half (minus the turnovers) we would have won the game by 30
October 21st, 2012 at 4:29 am
Today the Raider Nation expects every Raider to do his duty.
Let’s leave no doubt.No let up.I want the jags hammered today from the first play till the last.I want to drink from the keg of Victory.
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I think the defense will deliver, yet again
run-first teams like JAX are no longer a threat. Tannehill in Miami was throwing to set up the run. Let’s hope Gabbert doesn’t fair as well. If i’m the Jags play caller i’m going with 2 TE’s and MJD in the backfield coming out as a receiver. McClain & Branch will both be on the field, and there’s the match-up you’re looking to exploit. throw throw throw. then when the defense is winded and loses hope … run MJD 25 times in the 2nd half
October 21st, 2012 at 4:35 am
there is no way to contain Palmer (prevent turnovers), but that will be the key to victory this afternoon. We will run the rock, check down and take what the defense gives us. move the chains. chew clock. keep MJD on the sidelines & keep our defense fresh. toss a few more balls to Myers, Ausberry, Reece & McFadden. Maybe another screen to Goodson or reverse by DHB. always take the points.
If Palmer starts tossing bombs and they get intercepted, game might be over in the 1st half imo
October 21st, 2012 at 4:38 am
I think everybody in the room knows that Palmer could easily throw for 400 yards, 3 TD’s and no INT’s.
I think we also know that Palmer could also throw for 300 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT’s while getting sacked 4 or 5 times
I remain hopeful. As predicted yesterday:
Raiders 30
Cougars 17
October 21st, 2012 at 4:39 am
BBL gents!
October 21st, 2012 at 4:39 am
RAIDERS 27
jags 13
GO RAIDERS
October 21st, 2012 at 5:11 am
What I wouldn’t do to see a blowout like the Oak/Den game in 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s right the ship today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 5:17 am
Touchdooowwwwn RRRRRRRAIDERS! We win 37-10
October 21st, 2012 at 5:56 am
Raiders 31….. Cats 13….
October 21st, 2012 at 5:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:10 am
whats up Goldie? is Nick Miller off his suspension yet?
his clone Jacoby Ford is on I.R.
is White Webster still with the Rams !?!?
I wonder if we could trade McClain or Branch for him?
better yet … re-sign Johnnie Lee !
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Sup RR? I’m just discovering you post reply. My bad. How in the world are you? Nicky was suspended? For what reasons? I had no idea, Nick was suspended. Shame on me, I am a Nick Miller fan and didn’t know he was suspended. If we could get little Nick and Johnnie Lee back in the black hole, we would be pretty darn good. Know what I mean? lol Later.
October 21st, 2012 at 6:03 am
Morning, Nation! It’s game day!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 6:11 am
Protect the ball…. Stop the Run… Stop the Run …stop the Run
We win!….
Raiderrrrrrsssssss …
Raiders 31……. Cats 13….
October 21st, 2012 at 6:27 am
<—— punched the time clock, ready for some overtime today. Everyone will be feeling spunky after this big win
October 21st, 2012 at 6:33 am
I miss these “state of the raiders” press conferences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t49CUaAqBU
October 21st, 2012 at 6:43 am
Or the fuller version…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEvoLqIIhuc
October 21st, 2012 at 6:59 am
Who cares about this crap raiders team….Dwight Howard is debuting for the lakers tonight!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:01 am
run-first teams like JAX are no longer a threat.
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Who do you credit for that?
October 21st, 2012 at 7:04 am
How about Gasoft???
Is he going to show up this season?
I need one of those internet links for the Lakers. I’m NOT switching to Time Warner.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:06 am
I just can’t watch the unwatchable Sapp, Irvin, and Mariucci.
Sorry Eisen and Faulk.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Who does Gasoft play for? Jax?
I agree 100% about NFL TV
October 21st, 2012 at 7:19 am
LOL
Wassup Plunk?
Top of the mornin to ya bruh!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:23 am
The 3 man rush NEVER works…….
October 21st, 2012 at 7:43 am
Morning fellas…
Gotta have this one, no excuses, we’re playing a lesser team, at home in front of a sellout and we have the motivation to get 1 game out of the Division with 10 to go.
Just win baby.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:43 am
morning Jhill
Im just burning and enjoying life at the moment. Very fortunate.
I dont know how anyone can listen to sapp and co when they start hee hawing which is all the time.
Good video on Brady and hos much he blows
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/8517311/have-tom-brady-new-england-patriots-lost-their-fourth-quarter-magic
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 am
Eli Manning. Kurt Warner. Philip Rivers. Joe Flacco. Donovan McNabb. Ben Roethlisberger. Mark Sanchez. Tony Romo. Peyton Manning. Drew Brees. Brett Favre. Matt Hasselbeck. Aaron Rodgers. Jay Cutler.
All of the above quarterbacks have won a playoff game more recently than Tom Brady.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:50 am
Opps I think that was old info
I was gonna try to make the point that CP is as good as Brady but I need CP to win some games first
October 21st, 2012 at 8:12 am
5 hours till gametime and jerrysworld is dead
Is RG3 the fastest man on the field today? In all of football?
I would say no to both but the sportstalkers say he is
October 21st, 2012 at 8:15 am
The one thing that bothers me about this coaching staff is how easy they throw the players under the bus, DA, Knapp and now Tarver are very comfortable when questioned by simply blaming the players for “lack of execution”.
Of course players should be held accountable when they miss an assignment or simply screw up but not in public.
Usually a Coach will step up and protect his guys in front of the media and fans even if he curses them out in the film room, teams are supposed to be united and create a family-brotherhood type of environment in order to get everyone believing in each other.
These guys make it seem like it’s the Coaches on one side coming up with brilliant gameplans and calls and the players in the other messing up those great schemes, that’s just not how it works.
This isn’t about the players “getting their feelings hurt” or something like that, they still get paid and should give their best week in and week out regardless, but the most succesful teams in sports always seem to have a bond with the Coaches that results in the proverbial “run through a brick wall for that guy” attitude, a team’s mentality in football is a huge difference-maker and our Coaches need to learn that now.
Now well coached teams execute because they practice well and because coaches get the players in the best position to win by fitting their talent into the schemes and gameplans, it all starts during the week and if your practices aren’t going well you should adjust instead of just hoping it will suddenly work out in gameday.
By the way, our players usully take the blame themselves, just like Carson did, no need for the coaches to come out when questioned and throw them under the bus as well, player know when they screw up and accept it, but do our coaches?.
Let’s hope we kick ass today and the coaches and team rally around each other and come together for the next 10 games.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:34 am
I remember reading Tarver saying the coaches needed to do a better job getting the players ready for that “situational defense” we saw at the end of the game last week.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:34 am
The Raiders’ mashed-together offensive line was the main culprit in Oakland’s 12-penalty game last week in Atlanta. The offense had nine penalties. The same people are expected to play today. The Jaguars should test right tackle Willie Smith (three holding flags last week).
cut/paste
October 21st, 2012 at 8:36 am
Plunketthead Says: I was gonna try to make the point that CP is as good as Brady but I need CP to win some games first.=========================================
#1 in about ten hours.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 am
Bob Marley Says: The one thing that bothers me about this coaching staff is how easy they throw the players under the bus, DA, Knapp and now Tarver are very comfortable when questioned by simply blaming the players for “lack of execution”.==================
That is wearing thin, true or not.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 am
Good morning, RAIDER NATION!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 am
Jag news on how to beat us
FIRST DOWN
Emphasize Shorts
Receiver Cecil Shorts is expected to get his first NFL start today, a well-earned assignment after showing through five games he is the only healthy big-play element in the passing game (a team-high 205 yards and 25.6-yard per catch average). Granted, it’s time to get Justin Blackmon more involved, but Shorts could take advantage of a banged-up Oakland secondary with his speed. His catches this year have gained 20, 39 (touchdown), 8, 7, 80 (touchdown), 34 and 9 yards.
SECOND DOWN
Protect the back end
The Jaguars’ bend-but-don’t-shatter defensive approach hasn’t kept opponents from doing much — the defense is 29th in total yards, 30th against the run and 25th in scoring. But teams haven’t been able to connect on the deep ball against them (partly because they haven’t needed to). Oakland needs it and will try. Jags free safety Dwight Lowery (ankle) is out and strong safety Dawan Landry (knee) has been slowed during the week. Expect the Raiders to challenge Chris Prosinski with some long shots.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:39 am
THIRD DOWN
Keep Jones-Drew involved
The lopsided scores this year have limited Maurice Jones-Drew’s impact — he has only 12, 12 and 13 carries in blowout losses to Houston, Cincinnati and Chicago. The only game Jones-Drew started that the Jaguars were able to stick to their game plan, he carried 28 times for 177 yards in the win at Indianapolis. An unsolicited suggestion: Use personnel groupings that force Oakland to use its “nickel” package, thus opening up running lanes for Jones-Drew to have a happy homecoming to the Bay Area.
FOURTH DOWN
Get multiple sacks
The Jaguars finally broke their three-game streak without a sack when Austen Lane took down Jay Cutler in the loss to Chicago. The defense avoided a place in franchise infamy — the Jaguars have never gone four consecutive games without a sack. But now it’s time to get multiple sacks and the Raiders could be exposed. Former undrafted free agent Willie Smith has started the last three games at right tackle and struggled mightily. He had three holding penalties last week against Atlanta.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
I thought someone would pick up Short in pursuit of the coveted Al Davis Cup
October 21st, 2012 at 8:43 am
Jaguars WR Justin Blackmon vs. Raiders CB Michael Huff: With projected No. 1 receiver Laurent Robinson out for a second consecutive game (concussion), it will fall on Blackmon to help jump-start the league’s lowest-ranked passing game. Blackmon has been targeted 18 times the last two games but none of his nine catches gained more than 19 yards. Huff is a safety that has been forced to play cornerback because of injuries. Atlanta challenged him throughout — with consistent success — by throwing to Julio Jones eight times (six catches).
INJURY REPORT
Jaguars: Out – S Dwight Lowery (ankle), WR Laurent Robinson (concussion), LB Daryl Smith (groin). Probable – S Dawan Landry (knee), DE George Selvie (knee).
Related: Jaguars’ roster vs. Raiders
Raiders: Out – RT Khalif Barnes (groin), TE Richard Gordon (hamstring), CB Shawntae Spencer (foot). Questionable – RB Taiwan Jones (knee), C Alex Parsons (shoulder/back). Probable – G Mike Brisiel (concussion), K Sebastian Janikowski (groin), RB Darren McFadden (shoulder), WR Denarius Moore (shoulder), TE Brandon Myers (ear/knee), DT Richard Seymour (knee).
Not including a kneel down against Chicago in Week 5, the Jaguars’ offense has not scored a touchdown in their last 19 possessions dating back to their second drive of the Cincinnati game in Week 4.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 am
With the first-round pick the Raiders have, it depends entirely on where they’re picking.
Some options:
QB Smith
DT Lotulelei
DT Hankins
DT Jenkins
DE Werner
OLB Thomas
OLB Jordan
OLB Jones
ILB Ogletree
MLB Te’o
CB Banks
S Vaccaro
October 21st, 2012 at 8:52 am
Officiating Crew An Omen For The Jaguars
The referee assigned to Sunday’s Jaguars-Oakland game is Scott Green.
During the week, Green is a lobbyist in the Washington, D.C., area and during the officials’ lockout, he was a member of the negotiating team.
Green has had the big whistle for two games this year:
Week 4: Miami 24, at Arizona 21 (OT). Miami 4 penalties-40 yards. Arizona 6-62.
Week 5: Houston 23, at NY Jets 17. Houston 7-50, Jets 5-25.
Week 6: Off. (Green’s crew worked Detroit’s OT win at Philadelphia, calling a combined 25 penalties for nearly 200 yards.
The fact the road team has won all three of those games is at least one shred of good news for the Jaguars.
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/544821/ryan-ohalloran/2012-10-19/officiating-crew-omen-jaguars
October 21st, 2012 at 8:52 am
First round pick should be either o-line to protect Palmer better and open up more holes for McF, or d-line to replace Seymour.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:54 am
Week 6: Off. (Green’s crew worked Detroit’s OT win at Philadelphia, calling a combined 25 penalties for nearly 200 yards.
>>>>>>
Ohhh gawd. Wonderful.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:54 am
Gdog Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:52 am
First round pick should be either o-line to protect Palmer better and open up more holes for McF, or d-line to replace Seymour.
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It should be the best player available. Raiders have too many holes to pass on talent anywhere.
Not thrilled with the offensive line class this year, but Michigan OT Taylor Lewan and Wisconsin OT Ricky Wagner are two fringe 1st-rounders who would be good fits in the Raiders’ scheme.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 am
Stanford’s Chase Thomas makes a lot of sense for the Raiders. Plenty of experience in Tarver’s defense, versatile enough to play OLB, ILB and DE, and constantly finds a way to make game-changing plays.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 am
Thomas is likely going to be a late riser up draft boards the way Shea McClellin was.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:59 am
I like the way the Raiders have been working their tightends. Let’s get this win Raiders. Good luck Raider Nation!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:07 am
27 to 13, Raiders win, qdrn
October 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
Chargers cheat and lose anyway, might lose draft picks. It’s a great day to be a Raider fan.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
SD chokers got caught with stickem on the sideline last week
October 21st, 2012 at 9:13 am
So the big question is can we come back from a 1 and 4 start and make the playoffs?
I know we’ve heard the new Reggieme say that this is a process and it takes time but, this fan has been watching 10 years of rebuilding plus a lot more.
We’ve had the #1 pick in the draft, the #3, the #7 the #8 and many more high draft picks.
Are we going to make it??? Or do we look to the future?
The fact is after 2-14, 4-12, we know how to suffer through a losing season, but only if there’s hope.
When do we put the young gun in and “rebuild” from the Hue-ge error that is Palmer.
Don’t get me wrong I like Carson, he makes great throws, but he also makes bad throws and he also gives up the ball.
You can almost see the exact moment that Palmer says “f it” and gives the game away.
With the kind of talent we have on O and the salary we’re carrying on D we should be strongly in the middle of the pack.
Again I thought this new regime was about making the pragmatic choice. Building for years to come. I didn’t think the AD way of sticking with it despite common sense … oops I meant Just Win Baby was still in effect.
If we beat the lowly Jags can we still make a run? When do we through in the towel and begin to rebuild with youth? When does the Palmer experiment end? Because face facts he’s not the answer two years from now? But Dmac and DHB will still be.
In other thoughts where has M. Reese been all year?
As always….Go Raiders.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:13 am
Just saw that on Fox Sports!
The Dischargers are being investigated for using an illegal substance team wide-stick-em!
They’re facing big penalties.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:15 am
This is week where our running game comes alive.
McFadden should do well against the league’s 30th defense against the run.
He actually had some good yards last week but they got cancelled by penalties.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:18 am
Yes
hopefully so
yes
yes
yesterday
who knows
On the field blocking, rushing, catching passes
October 21st, 2012 at 9:20 am
Lets hope Willie Smith will stop holding on macs breakaways and I agree
Dmac is about to have his best game in the NFL
October 21st, 2012 at 9:21 am
Joe Barksdale’s 1st career start at LT comes vs GB and Clay Matthews today, talk about a tough task.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:22 am
funny
funny
laughing out loud
sad
reminicing
resigned, determined, hopeful
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
Ha Willie Smith, really after scouring the waivers Willie is the best we can do?
And I STILL after many years of complaints, I still wish Cooper Carlisle would start today against GB
October 21st, 2012 at 9:31 am
Roch R Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
Ha Willie Smith, really after scouring the waivers Willie is the best we can do?
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He had a couple of promising games early on. Denver and Atl were definitely not a good outing for him.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:33 am
As far as the Draft talk, there’s no question in my mind we should target and outside rusher with our 1st round pick, we need a 10-12 sack guy from the right side so we can move Shaughnessy to his natural Left End position.
Selecting a RDE would make an impact all along the front four, we solidify the Left side with a true End in Shaughnessy and make Houston a DT where he can use his speed and motor to wear down big, interior OL, Houston is 6′3 300, so his size won’t be a huge issue, look at some of the best DT’s around and you will find many with similar size, Cincy’s Geno Atkins, a great interior rusher comes to mind.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:34 am
* target an..
October 21st, 2012 at 9:34 am
Good morning/afternoon, ladies.
I know it’s a big if, but IF we blowout the Jags today, I really think we’re on our way.
I think they’re finally getting a hang of the offense.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:36 am
LOL, the Chargers were busted for using stikem during the Bronco game.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:39 am
Only the Chargers could get caught cheating while getting blown out, at home, by a division rival.
What a pathetic franchise.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 am
Tyler Hunt @Raiderpedia
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
SD chokers got caught with stickem on the sideline last week
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ROFLMAO
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 am
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October 21st, 2012 at 9:41 am
LOL at the Dolts.
Should have just went the Moises Alou route and pee on their hands.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:41 am
As far as the OL, Veldeheer is good and even the best will have some bad days, just remember how he handled Jared Allen at Minny last year, that kid will stay at LT for the next 10 years.
ZBS is supposed to work with low-cost OL anyways, which makes me wonder why we spent good money on Mike Brisiel and our first pick on Bergstrom when we could have just kept Satele at Center, Carlilsle at RG and Wis at LG.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
Still LMAO!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 am
Not sold on Veldheer as a 10 year guy.
Too many penalties and sacks allowed (near the top of the NFL in both over the last two years).
October 21st, 2012 at 9:47 am
Draft:
We need a pass rusher (OLB/ RDE) and CB(S).
October 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
I like her fully covered in grass!
Go Raiders!
37-17
Enjoy the game, Raider fam!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
Rob Riggle picked the Raiders to win. It’s all good now.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:50 am
That was the funniest Rob Riggle segment so far, and Ginger was awesome as well.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am
Veldheer near the top in sacks allowed the last 2 years? I wouldn’t of guessed that. Obviously he is in penalties, he plays for the Raiders
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 am
Less riggle is best
The last few I have seen belong on NFL TV
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 am
Every year in the SI NFL preview, they show the penalties and sacks allowed of every starting O-lineman.
Veldheer was at the top of the league (or bottom I guess) both years in both categories.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:58 am
In Chicago, we keep getting screwed out of good games. Instead of Giants vs. Redskins, we get Packers and Rams. F*ck the Midwest.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Believe in Veldheer JFB, stats are only part of the story as you know.
Later, go Raiders!.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Last year Veldheer had 9 penalties and 4.5 sacks allowed.
The only other player with more penalties was Jamarcus Webb that I see.
The 4.5 sacks is not too bad, I believe it was worse in 2010.
The most amazing one was Duane Brown of the Texans, who had 1 false start penalty, 0 holds and 1 sack credited.
That’s a 10 year anchor at LT.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:59 am
Chargers busted by officials on Monday Night Football for using stickum. Trainer busted with towel by officials. Cheating could cost Bolts draft choices. LMFAO
October 21st, 2012 at 10:00 am
Maybe with a Romney win, it will spur on Veldheer.
Hillsdale college (where he went) is like a training cell of right-wing politicians.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 am
Once you get the Sunday ticket, going back to regional viewing schedules is not an option.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 am
Yeah I just looked up how many sacks allowed and it was only 4 last year and 7.5 in 2010 his rookie year, not too bad.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:04 am
run-first teams like JAX are no longer a threat.
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Who do you credit for that?
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@ Jhill
McKenzie, Allen & Tarver!!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:05 am
new post
October 21st, 2012 at 11:32 am
The Prediction Board:
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
C2E Says: Raiders 30-17
Dan78 Says: Raiders 24 Jaguars 17
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 35 Jacksonville 13
DMAC Says: Raiders win 31-7
JLofty Says: Raiders 24 – Puddytats 13
PlunkforHOF Says: My beloved Raiders 41 Cute Little Kitties 15
qodrn: Raiders 27, Jags 20
SilverNBlackPA Says: Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17
Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10
Trepidacious Raider Says: Oak 24 Jax 17
October 21st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
The Prediction Board:
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
C2E Says: Raiders 30-17
Dan78 Says: Raiders 24 Jaguars 17
downsouthraider Says: Raiders 35 Jacksonville 13
DMAC Says: Raiders win 31-7
fingers Says: Raiders 31….. Cats 13…..
JLofty Says: Raiders 24 – Puddytats 13
JRaider Says: JAC-27 OAK-21
Just Fire Baby Says: Raiders 33-10
MiamiRaider78: Raiders 37 Jaguars 17
PlunkforHOF Says: My beloved Raiders 41 Cute Little Kitties 15
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says: 27 to 13, Raiders win
qodrn: Raiders 27, Jags 20
raidermarty Says: RAIDERS 27 jags 13 GO RAIDERS
RaiderRockstar Says: Dirty Pirates 30 Kitty Cats 17
SilverNBlackPA Says: Raiders 27 – Jaguars 17
Sullivan 44 Says: Raiders 20, Jags 10
Trepidacious Raider Says: Oak 24 Jax 17