Raiders not sheepish about taking ‘ugly’ win
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, October 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Just as the Raiders took no solace in an inspired effort in a 23-20 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, they aren’t the least bit worried about walking away from a 26-23 overtime victory against the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday.
“There’s no stealing in the NFL,” Raiders free safety Michael Huff said. “A win is a win. We’ll take it.”
They have no choice, actually. In the end, Huff is right, these are the kind of games the good teams find a way to win, and they don’t ask questions.
With the victory, the Raiders improved to 2-4 and moved within one game of the AFC West lead. The San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos are tied atop the division at 3-3 — the three other AFC West teams were idle Sunday.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said he and his players have every right to feel good about beating the Jaguars, even if they aren’t pleased with the route they took to get there.
“We feel good about winning,” Allen said. “That’s what you’re supposed to do in this league, you’re supposed to win games. Am I pleased with the way we played, especially in the first half? Absolutely not. We’ve got to play better.
“Anytime you get an opportunity to win in the National Football League. you can’t take that for granted. So, I’m happy that we won the football game.”
Quarterback Carson Palmer took the Falcons loss especially hard as a result of a pass he attempted that Asante Samuel intercepted and returned for a touchdown.
On Sunday, Palmer said is thrilled by the way the Raiders persevered in the face of adversity and emerged with an improbable victory.
“An ugly win’s better than a pretty loss, I know that,” Palmer said. “I’ve played this game long enough to know that just getting a win, finding any way to get a win… against a desperate team, a team that’s kicking onside kicks with a 14 point lead and changing things up.
“I’m just proud of the way we fought, because it wasn’t pretty. We did not play up to our standard and play the way we’re coached at times. Guys hung in there, the defense played great, got us the ball back. It’s just good to get out of here with a win.”
– The Jaguars entered the game last in the league with three sacks through five games. At times Sunday, their defensive linemen played like The Fearsome Foursome.
The Jaguars sacked Palmer twice, hit him six other times and spent most of the day keeping Palmer on the run.
Palmer and the offensive linemen said the Jaguars did a nice job of incorporating some new wrinkles into their scheme during the bye week. Those are things that didn’t show up on the video the Raiders watched of the Jaguars first five games.
“That was a desperate team,” Palmer said. “They needed a win and they did a lot of uncharacteristic things. They’re coming off a bye, they did some things that they hadn’t previously shown. We kept countering it on the sideline with the coaches and kept slowing them down.
“That front four doesn’t have a ton of sacks, but they get after the quarterback. They’re relentless and we did a good job up front in the second half especially giving us some time to get the ball to the outside and to the receivers.”
In the end, the Raiders offensive line did just enough and gave Palmer just enough time on certain downs for Palmer to get accomplished what he needed.
“We were expecting maybe some unscouted looks, but they really brought it,” Wisniewski said. “They brought the intensity, brought some different looks here and there. But there’s no excuse. We’ve got to be a lot better as an O-line and an offense.”
Allen echoed his offensive linemen when he said, there’s work to be done between now and next Sunday’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
“They won the battle up front, there’s no question about it,” Allen said of the Jaguars. “We weren’t able to run the ball effectively. We had too much pressure on the quarterback. That will be something that we will have to look at. We have to get that corrected moving forward.”
– The Raiders improved to 18-18 in overtime games all-time. This was their first overtime game this season.
– A 23-yard reception by rookie wide receiver Rod Streater late in the game enabled Allen to send on Sebastian Janikowski for a 64-yard field-goal attempt.
The kick would have given the Raiders the victory in regulation and Janikowski the NFL record for longest field goal made. He is one of four kickers with a 63-yarder.
As it turned out, Janikowski’s kick came up well short, with Aaron Ross catching the ball in the middle of the end zone and returning it past the Jaguars 30.
– You hear all the time about the Raiders getting the short end of the stick when it comes to the officiating. We likely won’t be hearing about that this week.
The Raiders benfitted from several questionable calls, including a pass interference on a fourth-and-10 play that preceeded their game-tying touchdown late in the fourth quarter.
There also was a pass interference called on a Jaguars receiver that thwarted a fourth-quarter drive, as well as a few others.
As one Raiders player said, “It felt good to be on the other side of those close calls for a change.”
– This was supposed to be the game the Raiders running game got untracked. After all, the Jaguars were 31st against the run at 163 yards per game and near the bottom at 4.7 yards per carry.
Not to be. Once again. The Raiders amassed 69 yards on 26 carries, with lead back Darren McFadden held to 53 yards on 19 carries (2.8-yard average).
– Outside linebacker credited a second-half turnaround to some fiery words from players in the locker room at halftime.
“There was a lot of cursing, a lot of, ‘We got to come through, we got to make a play. If we don’t make a play, we’re not going to win,’ ” Wheeler said. “Shoot, we came out and somebody said something in the locker room that hit with everybody and we just came out in synch.”
Whatever they said, it worked. The Jaguars managed only 54 yards offense and two field goals in the second half and overtime.
Palmer said offensive coordinator Greg Knapp tore into the offensive players, as well.
“Coach Knapp was not happy at halftime, so to speak,” Palmer said. “We had a great game plan coming in and we weren’t executing those (as) individuals. It starts with me being the quarterback. You got to execute and you got to execute the game plan.
“Coach Knapp let us have it, and we took it as almost a threat. He was all over us and sometimes you need that from your coach. He picked the right time. He doesn’t always do that but he picked the right time and let us have it and we came together and found ways to move the ball and found ways to score in the second half.”
– Once again, the Raiders defense fared well against the run.
On Sunday, they held the Jaguars to 54 yards on 26 carries. Sure, it helped that Jaguars lead back Maurice Jones-Drew left the game after only one series with a foot injury.
Still, the Raiders defense did an impressive job of hitting the ballcarrier soon after he touched the ball and not allowing him to get into the secondary. The Jaguars’ longest run netted 8 yards.
– The Raiders forced only one turnover, but it came at the right time.
On third-and-20 from their own 9-yard line, in overtime, Jaguars wide receiver Cecil Shorts hauled in a short pass from Chad Henne and headed downfield.
Shorts was met by defensive end Lamarr Houston, who separated the ball from Shorts, with cornerback Joselio Hanson falling on the ball.
“That’s the type of effort we’re looking for and those are the types of plays and type of effort we’re looking for, the guys that are going to give that type of effort on a down in and down out basis,” Allen said. “When he continues to play that way, he’ll continue to make plays.”
Houston said it’s just part of sticking with the play and finding a way to become part of the action.
“It’s guys closing to the ball,” Houston said, “and the wide receiver wasn’t paying attention to me and I was just running (to the ball) like I was coached. I ended up making a great play.”
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October 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Sullivan44 has admitted for all times that he is NOT a Raider fan. He is a 49er fan that only comes here because the Niners blog is not anywhere near as interesting as the Raiders blog.
He talks trash about our team for 59:59sec, until we win, then he slithers away like a slug with salt poured on it.
He is a complete worthless piece of excrement.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
SNAKE EYES!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Hope Barnes is back soon. Spencer too.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Shek Quatro!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
wishin DMAC had 5 YPC!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Sullivan44 has admitted for all times that he is NOT a Raider fan. He is a 49er fan that only comes here because the Niners blog is not anywhere near as interesting as the Raiders blog.
He talks trash about our team for 59:59sec, until we win, then he slithers away like a slug with salt poured on it.
He is a complete worthless piece of excrement.
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I don’t believe that. He knows too much about the Raiders to not be a fan. I think he just really disliked Al Davis and likes to play devils advocate. I don’t believe for one second that he is a 49er fan.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Sullivan44 has admitted for all times that he is NOT a Raider fan. He is a 49er fan that only comes here because the Niners blog is not anywhere near as interesting as the Raiders blog.
He talks trash about our team for 59:59sec, until we win, then he slithers away like a slug with salt poured on it.
He is a complete worthless piece of excrement.
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I don’t believe that. He knows too much about the Raiders to not be a fan. I think he just really disliked Al Davis and likes to play devils advocate. I don’t believe for one second that he is a 49er fan.
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Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
You guys are such geniuses. I’ve always been niners all the way, you all were just too stupid to see it.
I like winners…period. My niner hat fits well thank you.
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Try again Bigelow….his words clearly speak for themselves.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
SullivansMom44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
It’s not easy having a 36 year old son with a multitude of personalities. The other day he was yelling at me like John Harbaugh, about how great the 49ers are, whilst wearing a Raider hat. It breaks my heart! He disappeared after tonight’s win and the lithium, along with his nicely pressed Sponge Bob Pj’s await him.
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LMAO!…I love this place
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
HuJack is history. He’s no longer here and not likely to make his way back. He did some really good things and a few blunders too. That’s all over. Move on. We have rwal problems on this team to deal with & interjecting HuJack into the discussion is fruitless.
There’s a saying that no matter what color you paint a turd, it’s still a turd. We got a couple or three turds now on staff. They are bringing us down badly. How do we get rid of them? It’s time to flush these losers and become the team we need to be. If we wait too long all we get is a ring around the bowl & that’s not the ring we are looking for.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
You guys are such geniuses. I’ve always been niners all the way, you all were just too stupid to see it.
I like winners…period. My niner hat fits well thank you.
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This is why Sullivan44 has no opinion on this blog even remotely worth listening to.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
Most of the starters return and those who left did it because we didn’t want them, so starting personnel and key players remain basically the same and any changes were made because of our coaching staff and GM decided so.
So, we sit at 2-4 after 6 games when we were 4-2 last year with the following averages:
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
That’s a huge downgrade, you can nitpick stats and try and spin it in many ways, but that’s the bottom line, we got worst.
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice, teaching and making your players better is also a huge part of coaching.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
31st against the run at 163 yards per game and near the bottom at 4.7 yards per carry.
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What the hell is going to take to get the running game going? Goodsen needs to touch the ball more. They can’t just keep running DMac up the middle for 2 yards.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Just glad we won. Love the semis and the pure passion here amongst actual fans.The rest just serves as filler to keep it somewhat interesting.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
wow..and i thought a HC actually took responsibility for entire team. Hue had authority to trade for palmer but no authority to replace chuck b or get involved in the D game plan? cmon…if Hue doesnt get a HC job next year will you finally give in? I mean if hes such a hot commodity someone would recognize his genius beside you?
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well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
You guys are such geniuses. I’ve always been niners all the way, you all were just too stupid to see it.
I like winners…period. My niner hat fits well thank you.
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Try again Bigelow….his words clearly speak for themselves.
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He’s full of sh*t.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
– You hear all the time about the Raiders getting the short end of the stick when it comes to the officiating. We likely won’t be hearing about that this week.
The Raiders benfitted from several questionable calls, including a pass interference on a fourth-and-10 play that preceeded their game-tying touchdown late in the fourth quarter.
There also was a pass interference called on a Jaguars receiver that thwarted a fourth-quarter drive, as well as a few others.
As one Raiders player said, “It felt good to be on the other side of those close calls for a change.”
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That’s hilarious Steve. What exactly was “questionable” about those two calls? I think even a neutral fan would say those 2 calls were legitimate.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
He’s full of sh*t.
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Yes, MaddenWhiner, aka Sully, is.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
If I’m not mistaken, when Kiffen was here he called the plays NOT Knapp. When Cable took over he stripped Knapp of play calling duties. This offense looks horrible – the o-line and running game are a mess! We don’t look like we’re dictating anything to the opposing defense and we’re lucky our QB can still stand up. Something needs to be done now. Today’s offensive effort won’t cut it against better teams.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
wow..and i thought a HC actually took responsibility for entire team. Hue had authority to trade for palmer but no authority to replace chuck b or get involved in the D game plan? cmon…if Hue doesnt get a HC job next year will you finally give in? I mean if hes such a hot commodity someone would recognize his genius beside you?
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well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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Man who are you Mistic…we understand our O is struggling but get over Hue already, will you.. we will do fine without him rest of the year.. our O is not where we want it to be but thank god rest of the division sucks and we can make some improvements
October 21st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
Most of the starters return and those who left did it because we didn’t want them, so starting personnel and key players remain basically the same and any changes were made because of our coaching staff and GM decided so.
So, we sit at 2-4 after 6 games when we were 4-2 last year with the following averages:
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
That’s a huge downgrade, you can nitpick stats and try and spin it in many ways, but that’s the bottom line, we got worst.
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice, teaching and making your players better is also a huge part of coaching.
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And Bob, think how much better that defense would look without having Knapp-time run our offense
October 21st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
“An ugly win’s better than a pretty loss, I know that,” Palmer said.
And that’s all that matters tonight, one step closer to 4-4 and perhaps a 2nd half run.
There’s a lot of stuff troubling me with this team but I will always stand behind them and expect things to get better soon.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Winning by only 3 points against the worst team in the NFL? So what does that make us? Pretty bad, says here.
Anybody who says they are happy with this win clearly weren’t watching the game. We looked horrible. Against a horrible team no less. Who had their star running back out, AND their #1 QB. LOL.
And its not like we don’t have the right personnel to be dangerous, our play calling has just been terrible. We look predictable. I mean, C’mon we have passed on over 80% of 1st downs this season, and haven’t been very successful with that plan.
When we commit to RUNNING on 1st down, and consistently in general, we HAVE been successful. Go figure.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
Most of the starters return and those who left did it because we didn’t want them, so starting personnel and key players remain basically the same and any changes were made because of our coaching staff and GM decided so.
So, we sit at 2-4 after 6 games when we were 4-2 last year with the following averages:
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
That’s a huge downgrade, you can nitpick stats and try and spin it in many ways, but that’s the bottom line, we got worst.
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice, teaching and making your players better is also a huge part of coaching.
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Man glad your back Bob hard to try to explain things to these guys now that I have some back up with some substance maybe the can see some reality.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
cdnraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
If I’m not mistaken, when Kiffen was here he called the plays NOT Knapp. When Cable took over he stripped Knapp of play calling duties. This offense looks horrible – the o-line and running game are a mess! We don’t look like we’re dictating anything to the opposing defense and we’re lucky our QB can still stand up. Something needs to be done now. Today’s offensive effort won’t cut it against better teams.
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Thank you….I’m not a fan of the zone blocking scheme, but if Mckenzie and Allen were committed to implementing it, they could have at least hired a competent, top tier, offensive coordinator to do so.
Knapp is one of the worst in the league and has been so for several years now. That point is not even seriously debatable.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
the_kid101 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Winning by only 3 points against the worst team in the NFL? So what does that make us? Pretty bad, says here.
Anybody who says they are happy with this win clearly weren’t watching the game. We looked horrible. Against a horrible team no less. Who had their star running back out, AND their #1 QB. LOL.
And its not like we don’t have the right personnel to be dangerous, our play calling has just been terrible. We look predictable. I mean, C’mon we have passed on over 80% of 1st downs this season, and haven’t been very successful with that plan.
When we commit to RUNNING on 1st down, and consistently in general, we HAVE been successful. Go figure.
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Nice ID sully
October 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
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Thanks!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
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October 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says: Even my Mom is upstairs laughing
October 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Phillip Wheeler and Miles Burris look good , we just need Jarvis Jones to make a nice LB group next year
October 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
wow..and i thought a HC actually took responsibility for entire team. Hue had authority to trade for palmer but no authority to replace chuck b or get involved in the D game plan? cmon…if Hue doesnt get a HC job next year will you finally give in? I mean if hes such a hot commodity someone would recognize his genius beside you?
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well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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your opinion is he wasnt part of the problem, my opinion is hue wasnt part of the solution. time will tell, well see how successful hue is in getting another HC job next year.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Teams have picked up on our offensive tendencies, thats why Jacksonville was stuffing our 2nd down runs. That was easy to see.
Somebody needs to talk to these damn coaches!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
⭐Sulli-bye, sulli-bye, my sweet Sulli-bye⭐, regardless of your condition, your the apple of my eye-
This is the sweet nothing’s he falls asleep to. Please make your way home, my Sullivan!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Phillip Wheeler and Miles Burris look good , we just need Jarvis Jones to make a nice LB group next year
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Sure wish the Raiders would have drafted Burfict in the 7th round.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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Man who are you Mistic…we understand our O is struggling but get over Hue already, will you.. we will do fine without him rest of the year.. our O is not where we want it to be but thank god rest of the division sucks and we can make some improvements
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No i’m not Mistic dont have time for all that fake cross posting shcit just read Bob Marley post and maybe you can learn something instead of your blind optimism.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
If your a raider fan for the last 10 years and you just witnessed an OT comeback win that puts us 1 game out of first with 10 games left, how can you be upset. just win baby
October 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Does this offense give you any confidence in the Denver re-match?
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
SullivansMom44 ….Dr_robert has gone over the edge.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Cdnraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Does this offense give you any confidence in the Denver re-match?
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any given thursday
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Two of the worst teams I have ever seen.
Has the ever been a worse OC than Greg Knapp???
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Nycraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
wow..and i thought a HC actually took responsibility for entire team. Hue had authority to trade for palmer but no authority to replace chuck b or get involved in the D game plan? cmon…if Hue doesnt get a HC job next year will you finally give in? I mean if hes such a hot commodity someone would recognize his genius beside you?
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well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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your opinion is he wasnt part of the problem, my opinion is hue wasnt part of the solution. time will tell, well see how successful hue is in getting another HC job next year.
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matters little if Hue gets another shot as most NFL orgs are dumb as the jut hire retread coaches. the good ole boy network.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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Man who are you Mistic…we understand our O is struggling but get over Hue already, will you.. we will do fine without him rest of the year.. our O is not where we want it to be but thank god rest of the division sucks and we can make some improvements
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No i’m not Mistic dont have time for all that fake cross posting shcit just read Bob Marley post and maybe you can learn something instead of your blind optimism.
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Blind Optimism!
Words of the night. That describes a lot of guys on this blog.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
But, lest we forget……October 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says: Even my Mom is upstairs laughing
October 21st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
You must be drinking what Knapp’s serving
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Got to keep the vermin down or it will rise up and bite you.==================================================
October 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says: Even my Mom is upstairs laughing
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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Man who are you Mistic…we understand our O is struggling but get over Hue already, will you.. we will do fine without him rest of the year.. our O is not where we want it to be but thank god rest of the division sucks and we can make some improvements
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No i’m not Mistic dont have time for all that fake cross posting shcit just read Bob Marley post and maybe you can learn something instead of your blind optimism.
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Blind Optimism!
Words of the night. That describes a lot of guys on this blog.
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especially describes all those with man crushes on huejak
October 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Brian Billick OVERSAW HIS SB team so did chucky lol what happened after the org figured out “hey these guys arent the reason we won the SB” FIRED.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I AM happy with the way our D played in the 2nd half though.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I think we have a terrible OC and offensive line. This is really getting embarrassing to watch. Thank goodness our defense came to play in the 2nd half! It was a beautiful sight!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
That Adams dude is a fuccn bum he got burnt for the touchdown fumbled and they scored a touchdown you can’t tell me DVD or chekwa ain’t better than him
October 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Went with the Raiders D and a bunch of scrubs in Fantasy Football today because of byes. Somehow I still have a chance to win if Hester can just get 6 points tomorrow night.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
mani/pedi sorry shows how much I know about that crap…..lol
October 21st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
WTF is up with our Punt Return & coverage units?
Constantly getting flagged, returners who dance around instead of working downfield.
This group seems to be a rudderless ship right now, DA needs to step in and get this mess cleaned up.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
well give chuckies SB To Dungy and MKiffin and give Bill Billick SB to Marvin Lewis but wait… Chucky and Billick oversaw the WHOLE TEAM well both of those guys got fired shortly after the SB THEY SAW OVER and Dungy went on to get another an Marvin Lewis Has Brought the Bengals up to respectability. Hue wasnt the problem smart guy.
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Man who are you Mistic…we understand our O is struggling but get over Hue already, will you.. we will do fine without him rest of the year.. our O is not where we want it to be but thank god rest of the division sucks and we can make some improvements
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No i’m not Mistic dont have time for all that fake cross posting shcit just read Bob Marley post and maybe you can learn something instead of your blind optimism.
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Blind Optimism!
Words of the night. That describes a lot of guys on this blog.
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Keep trolling
October 21st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
WTF is up with our Punt Return & coverage units?
Constantly getting flagged, returners who dance around instead of working downfield.
This group seems to be a rudderless ship right now, DA needs to step in and get this mess cleaned up.
Coye Francies CUT!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
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lets you know who the REAL TROLLS ARE.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
cdnraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
WTF is up with our Punt Return & coverage units?
Constantly getting flagged, returners who dance around instead of working downfield.
This group seems to be a rudderless ship right now, DA needs to step in and get this mess cleaned up.
Coye Francies CUT!
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Steve Hoffman, our ST coach, is garbage.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
YOU CAN BLAME KNAPP ALL YOU WANT – dmac stinks period. drops balls, no cut back whatsoever in his step, runs into blockers, cant find holes, too stupid to find lanes . I was at texans games and watched arian foster today- he cuts and finds lanes , reverses field. MAKES PLAYS. Goodsons better than DMAC.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Priest… You at right, guys were all over Hue and DA seems to be getting a free pass on some of hese issues he’s supposed to be addressing.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
A win is a win, so we were able to go from being the worst team in the nfl to just really really bad.
The good thing is that it serves as a respite , albeit precarious, from the mounting weight of another failed season.
Facing the one team worse than out own helped us get a win, and we needed every break conceivable to realize the victory.
From injured starters, to dropped ints, the ball bounced our way, harmelessly off the defenders hands to the turf.
Drink it in raider fans, become drunk with talk of no huddle offense and stealing the afc west. Savor the moment, these are clearly the best of times.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Mistic showed up? Did Palmer have a less than steller outing and rGiii had a good one? I actually don;t know. What post was it? And where was he , defending wilson? zip. bye, bye. no Mistic.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
dmacs worried about getting hurt -his slam and run you over style doesnt make a full season in the nfl-this aint college
October 21st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Terrible challenge by the Bengals. Did Hue throw that red flag?
October 21st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
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lets you know who the REAL TROLLS ARE.
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Hate to say it but if Hue was white there wouldnt be so much hate for him.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
btw, doesnt our defense get some credit for knocking out the qb? tk best contribution so far..even though it was a penalty..lol
October 21st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
STFU Mistic.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Usually we blow leads late in the game, and our D doesn’t show up. But tonight was different, which was super refreshing.
But still, it was Jacksonville, without MJD.
We are nowhere NEAR contending for a championship, which is really all I care about at this point.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Hate to say it but if Hue was white there wouldnt be so much hate for him.
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That’s total bull sh*t. Hue made a lot of bad decisions. So did Cable. Raider fans hate Kiffin and Shanahan more than they do Hue. Although, Shanahan is more orange than white at this point.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
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That’s a great point. They were hating on Hue when he was winning but this DA guy gets free pass with this crap?
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
Most of the starters return and those who left did it because we didn’t want them, so starting personnel and key players remain basically the same and any changes were made because of our coaching staff and GM decided so.
So, we sit at 2-4 after 6 games when we were 4-2 last year with the following averages:
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
That’s a huge downgrade, you can nitpick stats and try and spin it in many ways, but that’s the bottom line, we got worst.
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice, teaching and making your players better is also a huge part of coaching.
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READ IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL YOU DUMBASSES
October 21st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
TK did his Siragusa move.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
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READ IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! DUMBASSES
October 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
A win is a win, so we were able to go from being the worst team in the nfl to just really really bad.
The good thing is that it serves as a respite , albeit precarious, from the mounting weight of another failed season.
Facing the one team worse than out own helped us get a win, and we needed every break conceivable to realize the victory.
From injured starters, to dropped ints, the ball bounced our way, harmelessly off the defenders hands to the turf.
Drink it in raider fans, become drunk with talk of no huddle offense and stealing the afc west. Savor the moment, these are clearly the best of times.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself
October 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
This was a comedy of errors, with two teams fighting for that elusive title of worst nfl team. The fact that we were home and playing against chad heenne was or saving grace. Fumbles, interceptions, missed tackles, penalties, and very questionable coaching decisions led to a very underwhelming win.
Give the raidrs credit wining ugly is important, yet we all know that will not be good enough to win most games for the remainder of the year. I am having trouble seeing this team win more than 4-5 games for the year, the way i predicted it in preseason.
Rebuilds stink and this team needs a major overhaul
October 21st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Hate to say it but if Hue was white there wouldnt be so much hate for him.
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Although, Shanahan is more orange than white at this point.
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Hahahahahaha
October 21st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
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That’s a great point. They were hating on Hue when he was winning but this DA guy gets free pass with this crap?
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SOUNDS A LIL RACIST DONT YA THINK
October 21st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
We won?
October 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Probably more like if Hue hadn’t,mgone 1-4 down the stretch and miss the playoff, there wouldn’t be so much hate.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
nycraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
If your a raider fan for the last 10 years and you just witnessed an OT comeback win that puts us 1 game out of first with 10 games left, how can you be upset. just win baby
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Yeah, its refreshing. But this is only a fleeting taste of victory in the midst what is looking to be a bleak season.
RUN THE BALL ON 1ST DOWN DAMNIT!
October 21st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
How about the Raiders being 14th against the run and 7th in the NFL in ypc defensively?
Clown on Double-Nickle all you want, that’s what he was brought in to do, and while it certainly isn’t all on him, he is lending a hand in fixing a 10 year problem.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
24th in scoring offensively.
Getting scared Oakfosho??
October 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Why are we having to play against teams coming of bye weeks two weeks in a row? Does anybody else have to do that?
October 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Hue coached the most penalized team in the history of the NFL. He traded the farm for Palmer. He cut Hagan for Houshyourdaddy. He sat DMac until the “playoffs”. He was the head coach when the Raiders collapsed against Bills and Lions. He couldn’t get the defense motivated enough to force one punt against Chargers when division was on the line. He called questionable fake field goal and punts multiple times. And, he let the power go to his head once Al died. That’s why fans don’t like him
October 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Hate to say it but if HJ was white he’d be forgotten just like Cable.Hate to say it but if HJ was white he’d be roasted for keeping Bresnahan just as Allen is for keeping GK.
October 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
J Hill Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Probably more like if Hue hadn’t,mgone 1-4 down the stretch and miss the playoff, there wouldn’t be so much hate.
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read post 69 and 71 you obviously need to you too JFB.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
J Hill Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Probably more like if Hue hadn’t,mgone 1-4 down the stretch and miss the playoff, there wouldn’t be so much hate.
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Raiders are a barely 2-4 looking horrible yet so many DA apologizers on this blog?
Especially when common sense would say that Hue with DMAC back, penalty and D improvements the Raiders would be a playoff team right now.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
This offense has been exposed, there is now an over ridding theme when teams play the raiders.
load up on dmac in the run game on early downs , then bring the heat in long passing downs against palmer.
Palmer is able to stave off the avalanche of boos clearly pointed in his direction with a narrow win over the hapless toothless jags.
Palmer was harassed into pre snap penalties, errant throws and turn overs, yet the jags couldnt close the deal on the road behind their back up qb and rb. The win is a good deodorant for an otherwise stinker of a performance.
Then again take it where you can get it
October 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Hate to say it but if HJ was white he’d be forgotten just like Cable.Hate to say it but if HJ was white he’d be roasted for keeping Bresnahan just as Allen is for keeping GK.
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Being forgoten is better than being pissed on when you did a good enough job to get a 2nd year.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Starting RB and QB go down for the Jags and the Raiders need a miracle finish in OT to get a win.
While I dig all the enthusiasm from the “real” fans, I am just not impressed with this team.
They are a mess on the O-line and the Defensive Backfield.
I used to get all excited and throw out all the cliches… a win is a win, good teams find ways to win ugly games… blah blah and get my hopes up that the Raiders are finally turning the corner. Only to have my hopes dashed by reality.
This team is a few years away at best. Too much sub-par talent.
But hey, for all the guys willing to go all in after beating a team we were supposed to DESTROY, more power to ya.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Sounds a lil’ racist don’t ya think.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
DA needs to get himself involved with the Special teams…this unit is constantly underperforming…
Also, can someone let DA know that the Chiefs and their fans HATE US!
Not simply dislike, but full on hate and they will b ready after their bye week.
Have all 3 phases ready coach, we will need them…
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Mistic1 It just needed to be good enough to win THAT game. The next game will take care of itself. I think this team was suffering from a hangover losing to ATL the way they did. By the time gthey got their heads together you saw what happened. They shut them down and put up enough points to win. That’s all that matters this week.
Now going into KC will take a lot more but this win will give them a lot more. Palmer just needs to continue to get better and be more consistent in terms of throwing to the open man instead of forcing things to DMo.
I still think they need to play Pryor in certain situations it’ll give us some added offensive punch IMO. Palmer is having his issues at times but he’s good enough to win with. Now if we can get DMC rolling this could turn out to be quite nice. As long as Reggie stops screwing over the talent and give these kids a fair shake.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
This was no victory. We had to stomp the Jags to make a statement. The statement made today is that we are barely better than perhaps the worst team in football. That was no great Raider victory. That was a cripple fight, like Jimmy and Timmy, where we just got the last punch in.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Hate to say it but if HJ was white he’d be forgotten just like Cable.Hate to say it but if HJ was white he’d be roasted for keeping Bresnahan just as Allen is for keeping GK.
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Being forgoten is better than being pissed on when you did a good enough job to get a 2nd year. AND single handedly brought the O back to respectability with your coaching and assistant hires.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
DA needs to get himself involved with the Special teams…this unit is constantly underperforming…
Also, can someone let DA know that the Chiefs and their fans HATE US!
Not simply dislike, but full on hate and they will b ready after their bye week.
Have all 3 phases ready coach, we will need them…
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He coached for the Broncos. I’m sure he is aware of the division rivalries.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Double nickel hasn’t even contributed one/eleventh towards our improved run defense, Burris & Wheeler are the primary reasons, as well as the DLine focusing on stopping the run before rushing the qb.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
That was a cripple fight, like Jimmy and Timmy, where we just got the last punch in.
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LOL thats good schit.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
WAYYYY TO MANY PASS ATTEMPTS. We need to be running the ball WAY MORE. And not shotgun draws either, Come on now. Palmers getting sacked and fumbling on downs we should be RUNNING ON.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
The excuses for Palmer are hilarious. Heard someone say earlier today that Palmer plays crappy because he doesn’t believe in the system. Imagine going to McDonalds, ordering a big mac, and instead getting a chicken sandwich. You go to the counter to complain, and the guy says, “We only did that because we don’t believe in the system. We don’t like our new management”
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
This was no victory. We had to stomp the Jags to make a statement. The statement made today is that we are barely better than perhaps the worst team in football. That was no great Raider victory. That was a cripple fight, like Jimmy and Timmy, where we just got the last punch in.
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lol
October 21st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Can’t imagine we will fumble a punt and a snap inside our 20 yard line next week.
Unforced errors that can be eliminated with a ting of focus.
Curious to see what the line will look like against the Chiefs next week.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
We are fresh off a WIN and you are still complaining?
We scored 26 pts and WON!!!!!
1 damn game outta first place!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:07 pm
A decent running game will solve a lot of problems. They can’t keep running the ball this bad, can they?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Mistic1 It just needed to be good enough to win THAT game. The next game will take care of itself. I think this team was suffering from a hangover losing to ATL the way they did. By the time gthey got their heads together you saw what happened. They shut them down and put up enough points to win. That’s all that matters this week.
Now going into KC will take a lot more but this win will give them a lot more. Palmer just needs to continue to get better and be more consistent in terms of throwing to the open man instead of forcing things to DMo.
I still think they need to play Pryor in certain situations it’ll give us some added offensive punch IMO. Palmer is having his issues at times but he’s good enough to win with. Now if we can get DMC rolling this could turn out to be quite nice. As long as Reggie stops screwing over the talent and give these kids a fair shake.
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now this is good logic and not blind optimism I can work with this.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
We certainly need an offensive line, too. And a franchise QB. Veteran QBs don’t do it anymore. Every year a franch QB wins the Super Bowl, just about.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
The excuses for Palmer are hilarious. Heard someone say earlier today that Palmer plays crappy because he doesn’t believe in the system. Imagine going to McDonalds, ordering a big mac, and instead getting a chicken sandwich. You go to the counter to complain, and the guy says, “We only did that because we don’t believe in the system. We don’t like our new management”
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What the funk you talking bout Sandusky?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Hj did a good job as OC.He wasn’t a good HC.I wish he was still here as OC but the powers that be didn’t want him to return.So,I move on.Perhaps you should do the same.HE DOESN’T WORK HERE ANY LONGER AND HE WON’T BE BROUGHT BACK.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
raiden305 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
WAYYYY TO MANY PASS ATTEMPTS. We need to be running the ball WAY MORE. And not shotgun draws either, Come on now. Palmers getting sacked and fumbling on downs we should be RUNNING ON.
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We can’t run the ball! We should be passing more.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
the_kid101 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
A win is a win, so we were able to go from being the worst team in the nfl to just really really bad.
The good thing is that it serves as a respite , albeit precarious, from the mounting weight of another failed season.
Facing the one team worse than out own helped us get a win, and we needed every break conceivable to realize the victory.
From injured starters, to dropped ints, the ball bounced our way, harmelessly off the defenders hands to the turf.
Drink it in raider fans, become drunk with talk of no huddle offense and stealing the afc west. Savor the moment, these are clearly the best of times.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself
— Trolls in full force
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Double nickel hasn’t even contributed one/eleventh towards our improved run defense,
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Really?
So that wasn’t him making a tackle in the backfield in OT, stopping a run on 3rd and 1 earlier, and having more tackles than Wheeler today?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
J Hill Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
We are fresh off a WIN and you are still complaining?
We scored 26 pts and WON!!!!!
1 damn game outta first place!!!!
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go watch your sorry azz lakers LA GUY. This is BAY BIZZ BOY.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Did the Raiders do a pitch to the outside with McFadden today? The establishment of a run game is necessary to get this team to the next level.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Goodson needs more touches.
D-Mac is not patient enough in this offense, and drops a pass or two a game out of the backfield.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
really it makes no sense to hammer away on palmer for this game, he was only as bad as the rest of the team, and they were awful. He squeaked out a win improving his record to 6-10 so I wont kill him.
palmer also lucked out with a couple of fortuitous bounces, but the win will mask the real issue.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Healthy unproductive McFadden or a productive unhealthy McFadden?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Did the Raiders do a pitch to the outside with McFadden today?
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Yup, 2nd play of the game, Moore misses a block and it lost 4 yards and Darren fumbled a hair after his elbow hit.
Glad we never tried that again.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Raiders cannot afford another poor special teams performance against Kansas City;
Charles is one of the fastest RBs in the NFL, and we have our poorest run defenses against those types, always have.
We’ve got to play our best, smartest, toughest special team, not just kicking and punting, but coverages, blocking, tackles, blocks, and absolutely no penalties.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Sullivan!!!
The electricity bill is through the basement roof, please log off and take your meds. If you do so, I’ll let you scream at me like Harbaugh until you fall asleep.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Sandusky44 knows an awful lot about McDonalds.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
I see Jags fans are calling for them to bring Carson’s brother Jordan back to the team if Gabbert can’t play.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
That Palmer flip pass INT on 2nd and 2 was ridiculous.
One or two bone-headed plays a game from him (also the delay of game penalty).
Not a Knapp issue whatsoever.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Did the Raiders do a pitch to the outside with McFadden today?
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Yup, 2nd play of the game, Moore misses a block and it lost 4 yards and Darren fumbled a hair after his elbow hit.
Glad we never tried that again.
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I remember that now
October 21st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
the_kid101 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
A win is a win, so we were able to go from being the worst team in the nfl to just really really bad.
The good thing is that it serves as a respite , albeit precarious, from the mounting weight of another failed season.
Facing the one team worse than out own helped us get a win, and we needed every break conceivable to realize the victory.
From injured starters, to dropped ints, the ball bounced our way, harmelessly off the defenders hands to the turf.
Drink it in raider fans, become drunk with talk of no huddle offense and stealing the afc west. Savor the moment, these are clearly the best of times.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself
— Trolls in full force
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Your the TROLL as all you want is mediocre wins US REAL FANS want SB’s trophies and competent coaches.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
“I’m just proud of the way we fought, because it wasn’t pretty. We did not play up to our standard and play the way we’re coached at times.
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This is a very interesting comment.
………………and play the way we’re coached at times.
Coached at times? Tells me ‘at times’ perhaps the coaches do things properly, like perhaps conditioning drills, water breaks and general stuff., practicing substitutions, time outs, menial game stuff. But when it comes to being coached, I’m sure he knows the coaching other than the ‘at times’ sucks balls. Read between the lines on that one. There is more there than just what he said. Very curious if the whole team feels that way. I’m convinced they do.
And why wouldn’t DA want the no huddle more and most of the time? Is he trying to cuddle knapp with some warm and fuzzy and not butt hurt his feelings? What a bunch of crap.
Give Palmer the no huddle at least 75% of the game, the D is getting better, and we can take this win and use it as a spring board and beat KC into oblivion. All this in spite of knapp. Awesome.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Not being talked about, but Shane Lechler has overnight turned into a below average punter.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
TROLLS KEEP ON TROLLING LMAO
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
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That’s all you can say? Get the hell off this blog man.
Seriously
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I never thought I would say this but I miss Barnes.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Wish I could watch the Lakers, but the effed us and made a deal with time warner. No directv folks get the games.
Sooooo …
I can sit here and straighten you out about MY Raiders.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
The chiefs will be a little tougher to beat but they are also in the worst team discussion. The browns, jags, raiders, colts, chiefs and panthers are all very bad football teams.
Lets not fool ourselfs into believing that beating these kinds of teams means anything other than you can now aspire to one day be mediocre.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
TROLLS KEEP ON TROLLING LMAO
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Leave the blog. You are not talking football
Leave
October 21st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Lechler makes 3.8 million, absurd!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Palmer is not the issue on offense. The O-line is atrocious.
The Defense is playing with a grocery bagger and a trash collector at CB and some 3rd string Safeties.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
You need to get to mediocre before you can get to good.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
McMcClain played great as a parttime player two weeks in a row even, today was Wheeler’s first bad game as a Raider, even then it was good enough for a win, having accepted and successfully completing McClain’s responsibility.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
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The offense didn’t show up every week for Hue.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
SF Gigantes are going to win the World Series.
The team has the “it” factor, have been saying it all year.
The dugout is always jumping, everybody standing, everybody waiting to congratulate the guy for a great baseball play.
Fun as hell to watch.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
The excuses for Palmer are hilarious. Heard someone say earlier today that Palmer plays crappy because he doesn’t believe in the system.
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I believe that, and I wouldn’t be surprised if most the team felt that way. But after the game devlopes its identity, the players ineffections and indifferences towards the coaches loses a little luster and, being the professionals they are, strap it on and pull out a victory. Sweet. This, in spite of knapp and the rest of the coaching staff.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Go Gigantes!!! The Raiders will free up millions by releasing Lechler!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
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The offense wasn’t awesome. They disappeared in the second half of games and season. Not to mention thy team should have been 5-11.
It’s like a Charger blog in here. I want Marty, I want Marty.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
https://www.google.com/search?q=sock+puppets&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LLuEUMS-O4Po9ASFnoDIBg&ved=0CDcQsAQ&biw=320&bih=417#i=21
I’ll read to you as your favorite socket puppet, Sullivan!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
The team scored 20 points after the half today.
Did we do that once last year?
I am sure we may have done it once or twice, but I can’t think of it off the top of my head.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Why was Lechler retained at 3.8 million a season?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
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That’s all you can say? Get the hell off this blog man.
Seriously
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I can say whatever i want, because i’m a true Raiders fan, not some one who’s just troll and acts like he likes the Raiders.. we all have caught your stupid i like Niners posts .. now just say somebody must have gotten hand on ur pw right?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
J Hill Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Wish I could watch the Lakers, but the effed us and made a deal with time warner. No directv folks get the games.
Sooooo …
I can sit here and straighten you out about MY Raiders.
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“NEWS FLASH” Riders dont play in LA anymore LOL.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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“If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team.”
Very true. That’s basically goes along with Keeping Hue and fixing the defense. What of could of should of.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Someone start a “Hire Norv” Facebook page.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
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The offense wasn’t awesome. They disappeared in the second half of games and season. Not to mention thy team should have been 5-11.
It’s like a Charger blog in here. I want Marty, I want Marty.
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Morilla=DUMBASS
October 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
140.bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
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The offense didn’t show up every week for Hue.
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And yet we still ave. 25pts. a game. Just think if we didn’t lose our RB,QB,WR’s. What we might have doen.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Today might have been the worst LT play we have had since Gallery was flopping around over there.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Priest,maybe not to you or me but it does to some-both white and black.I loved his offense even though in my opinion he got way too conservative and didn’t make good adjustments resulting in us being outscored 2 to 1 in the second half of games.He was a good OC.He wasn’t a good HC.But,he is gone.He isn’t coming back.Why keep harping on the guy?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Troll is out of his meds hahahaha .. I’m loving this
October 21st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Today might have been the worst LT play we have had since Gallery was flopping around over there.
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Yeah, wtf is wrong with him?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
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That’s all you can say? Get the hell off this blog man.
Seriously
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I can say whatever i want, because i’m a true Raiders fan, not some one who’s just troll and acts like he likes the Raiders.. we all have caught your stupid i like Niners posts .. now just say somebody must have gotten hand on ur pw right?
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You are delusional. I am a REAL Raider fan. More of a Raider fan than you. I just don’t sugarcoat every thing or stay in “fantasy land” like you. If you can’t handle constructive criticism and real football talk then GET OFF THE DAMN BLOG.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
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The offense wasn’t awesome. They disappeared in the second half of games and season. Not to mention thy team should have been 5-11.
It’s like a Charger blog in here. I want Marty, I want Marty.
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Morilla=DUMBASS
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Just stating facts, if you don’t Ike them continue to live in your pretend world.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
140.bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Lefty12, man I have to tell ya’ I don’t think HJ color has anything to do with how people felt about him. People loved HJ because he brought serious offense to this team for the first time in many years. His flamboyance put some people off yeah but that’s his persona. I loved the offense man and what we have right now pales in comparison. It is a joke to compare the two, we had one of the most explosive offenses in the entire NFL and then we ahve this. How could you NOT be upset to some degree?
If you put that O with this D of the last 2 weeks that is a championship calibre team. When fans see that they get pissed, I know I do. The color of his skin or his dress or habits who cares. The offense was flat out awesome!
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SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN!!!!
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The offense didn’t show up every week for Hue.
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And yet we still ave. 25pts. a game. Just think if we didn’t lose our RB,QB,WR’s. What we might have doen.
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You can always speculate. New GM has all the power. He made the decesion and we as fans have to live with it. You just have to get over it.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
We averaged 22.4 PPG last year, 18.8 so far this year.
About a FG difference a game, not earth shattering people.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
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That’s all you can say? Get the hell off this blog man.
Seriously
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I can say whatever i want, because i’m a true Raiders fan, not some one who’s just troll and acts like he likes the Raiders.. we all have caught your stupid i like Niners posts .. now just say somebody must have gotten hand on ur pw right?
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You are delusional. I am a REAL Raider fan. More of a Raider fan than you. I just don’t sugarcoat every thing or stay in “fantasy land” like you. If you can’t handle constructive criticism and real football talk then GET OFF THE DAMN BLOG.
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This is getting more funnier and funnier .. good.. hope ur mom never gives you any more meds
October 21st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
Most of the starters return and those who left did it because we didn’t want them, so starting personnel and key players remain basically the same and any changes were made because of our coaching staff and GM decided so.
So, we sit at 2-4 after 6 games when we were 4-2 last year with the following averages:
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
That’s a huge downgrade, you can nitpick stats and try and spin it in many ways, but that’s the bottom line, we got worst.
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice, teaching and making your players better is also a huge part of coaching.
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BOTTOM LINE DUMBASSES
October 21st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers. Especially the fans of other teams trolling the blog. We get enough hate from our own fans.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
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That’s all you can say? Get the hell off this blog man.
Seriously
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I can say whatever i want, because i’m a true Raiders fan, not some one who’s just troll and acts like he likes the Raiders.. we all have caught your stupid i like Niners posts .. now just say somebody must have gotten hand on ur pw right?
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You are delusional. I am a REAL Raider fan. More of a Raider fan than you. I just don’t sugarcoat every thing or stay in “fantasy land” like you. If you can’t handle constructive criticism and real football talk then GET OFF THE DAMN BLOG.
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This is getting more funnier and funnier .. good.. hope ur mom never gives you any more meds
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You can’t handle this blog SO LEAVE. It’s that simple
October 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Why was Lechler retained at 3.8 million a seaso
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This is his last year as a Raider.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Why was Lechler retained at 3.8 million a seaso
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This is his last year as a Raider.
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Should have been cut.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Hue joins the Bengals and they get worse.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Gotta feel good about getting a win. Gotta feel good about the defense and the great job they did in the 2nd half and OT. Gotta feel good about Carson Palmer hanging in there despite taking an absolutely brutal beating all game long.
However, a lot to feel down about as well. Offensive line play is downright TERRIBLE!!! That’s really where this team’s struggles originate. Can’t get the running game going because the line can’t open any holes. The passing attack is inconsistent because Palmer is under siege almost every time he drops back.
Last week we probably should’ve beat the best team in the league on the road, but lost. This week we easily could’ve lost to arguably the worst team in the league at home, but won. Football’s funny like that sometimes.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
You just don’t get it do you? It’s a completely different philosophy and system. Last years team has nothing to do with this years.
I will say switching to the WCO/ ZBS and also hiring Knapp was a bad move. This squad isn’t made up for tht type of ball.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Can’t compare last years team to this years. Impossible. New staff and different system. Apples and oranges.
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You have to. A 8-8 team with the starting QB and NFL leading rusher down turned into what looks a 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 team in disarray. The future does not look bright.
This is not like last year when everybody was like “we just need to fix the defense and cut down on the penalties”. Which was actually true. Now it’s the whole damn team.
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UH HUH Keep trolling
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That’s all you can say? Get the hell off this blog man.
Seriously
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I can say whatever i want, because i’m a true Raiders fan, not some one who’s just troll and acts like he likes the Raiders.. we all have caught your stupid i like Niners posts .. now just say somebody must have gotten hand on ur pw right?
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You are delusional. I am a REAL Raider fan. More of a Raider fan than you. I just don’t sugarcoat every thing or stay in “fantasy land” like you. If you can’t handle constructive criticism and real football talk then GET OFF THE DAMN BLOG.
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This is getting more funnier and funnier .. good.. hope ur mom never gives you any more meds
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You can’t handle this blog SO LEAVE. It’s that simple
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Yes i can handle, i hope you can stick around every day .. we love to laugh at trolls like you … dumb POS haahhahhaa
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This present offense is taking the same RB and a better QB and WR’s and yet can’t compare to that offense HJ brought in. So what does that tell ya?
If you keep that O and HC and help him with the defense like everyone says you might be a playoff team even a SB contender. Instead the QB is learning a new O and struggling doing so, the RB is struggling with the new O. It’s like we’re running in mud sometimes. Yet we’re not supposed to complain…..lol
October 21st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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Really, are there any fair weather Raider fans left?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I’m done feeding the troll though… good try RaidO … but we know who u are.. every one knows who u r.. you’re fooling yourself if u think we will fall for ur BS , glass half empty sh1t.. but keep trolling, we will keep laughing at your expense , HAHAHAHHAA
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This present offense is taking the same RB and a better QB and WR’s and yet can’t compare to that offense HJ brought in. So what does that tell ya?
If you keep that O and HC and help him with the defense like everyone says you might be a playoff team even a SB contender. Instead the QB is learning a new O and struggling doing so, the RB is struggling with the new O. It’s like we’re running in mud sometimes. Yet we’re not supposed to complain…..lol
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Really, Super Bowl contenders? Playoff contenders maybe, but Super Bowl? The season isn’t over last time I checked. 10 more games to play. Make your assumptions then.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
NEWS FLASH
Bottom line: Raiders win.
Players will watch the tape and figure out what they didn’t do we’ll and work to improve. The players will see what they did well and work to get even better. This is a smart team of players. They will be a good team before to long, no matter how much the coaching staff does to stifle any improvement.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Just got back from the game. What’s up with Lechler anyway? He’s just not his old self.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
That win was the most ugly win but heck, I’ll take it. We still stink but I still love my Raiders.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can’t get the running game going because the line can’t open any holes.
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Run game is struggling for sure, and more often than not there aren’t any holes.
But I am of the belief Darren is leaving a lot of yards on the field. There is the occasional hole, granted occasional, and he misses them too often.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
This running game, or lack thereof, really concerns me. And Palmer is constantly under pressure.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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A lot of people criticize Raiders .. i don’t call them trolls because i know they’re real fans of Raiders and are concerned.. but you’re obvious troll and every body knows it here, get off your meds , maybe you will realize that you’re just embarrassing yourself in here.. get out of this blog and get some help
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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Dude, our team has sucked for a long time. Not all of us want to complain after a win. Save it for another day.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
We averaged 22.4 PPG last year, 18.8 so far this year.
About a FG difference a game, not earth shattering people.
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Big differences.
Last year we were averaging about 27 ppg with McFadden in the lineup. Tack on the fact that Carson Palmer is a far superior QB to Soup and we should be putting up even better numbers this season, in theory.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can’t get the running game going because the line can’t open any holes.
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Run game is struggling for sure, and more often than not there aren’t any holes.
But I am of the belief Darren is leaving a lot of yards on the field. There is the occasional hole, granted occasional, and he misses them too often.
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Something up with him, even when he gets in space he gets caught or brought down easily.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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Yeah wouldn’t u just love that , the only guy who calls you for who you’re is not on this blog anymore , so you can carry on your glass half empty BS to take our fun away from the game today … good try
October 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll.
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Well I just criticized Veldheer, Palmer and Lechler and heard nothing from him.
Maybe your criticism is not “constructive” but more obtuse.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
What is a troll? I thought I heard Sullivan mumbling,”I’m not troll, no troll”, in his sleep through the baby monitor the other night. Got to make sure he doesn’t get out in the public. I keep tabs on my man boy.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Jaguars offense had our number to start the game. They were passing when #55 was in there, and running when he wasn’t. Our run defense without #55 is better than our pass defense with #55. I know this is nothing new, but it’s painfully obvious McClain is a liability out there in the passing game.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can’t get the running game going because the line can’t open any holes.
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Run game is struggling for sure, and more often than not there aren’t any holes.
But I am of the belief Darren is leaving a lot of yards on the field. There is the occasional hole, granted occasional, and he misses them too often.
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Something up with him, even when he gets in space he gets caught or brought down easily.
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It’s in his head after 6 games. Make 1 cut and hit top speed already.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Jags playing in Green Bay next week. That game could be 49-0.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
We averaged 22.4 PPG last year, 18.8 so far this year.
About a FG difference a game, not earth shattering people.
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Big differences.
Last year we were averaging about 27 ppg with McFadden in the lineup. Tack on the fact that Carson Palmer is a far superior QB to Soup and we should be putting up even better numbers this season, in theory.
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It’s going to boil down to our Oline and Mcfadden just have to watch videos of Arian Foster running behind that Houston line.. or he is just not a good fit for ZBS
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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A lot of people criticize Raiders .. i don’t call them trolls because i know they’re real fans of Raiders and are concerned.. but you’re obvious troll and every body knows it here, get off your meds , maybe you will realize that you’re just embarrassing yourself in here.. get out of this blog and get some help
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Wow you are delusional. How about saying more than just calling people “Troll” in your post. You NEVER SAY ANYTHING.
How about talking football?? Oh wait you can’t handle this blog so why don’t you leave.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This present offense is taking the same RB and a better QB and WR’s and yet can’t compare to that offense HJ brought in. So what does that tell ya?
If you keep that O and HC and help him with the defense like everyone says you might be a playoff team even a SB contender. Instead the QB is learning a new O and struggling doing so, the RB is struggling with the new O. It’s like we’re running in mud sometimes. Yet we’re not supposed to complain…..lol
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Really, Super Bowl contenders? Playoff contenders maybe, but Super Bowl? The season isn’t over last time I checked. 10 more games to play. Make your assumptions then.
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GOOD LUCK WITH SOME OF THESE DUMMIES PRIESTT I’M OUT AND YES SB CONTENDER THE AFC IS WIDE OPEN TEXANS AND PATS ONLY POWER TEAMS AND WE BEAT HOU LAST YEAR SO IF HUE WERE STILL HERE YES WE WOULD BE SB CONTENDERS
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Jags playing in Green Bay next week. That game could be 49-0.
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I’ll take the Jags with that spread!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
What I saw from Barksdale today, he played pretty decent. I didn’t see the whole game, though.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
This present offense is taking the same RB and a better QB and WR’s and yet can’t compare to that offense HJ brought in. So what does that tell ya?
If you keep that O and HC and help him with the defense like everyone says you might be a playoff team even a SB contender. Instead the QB is learning a new O and struggling doing so, the RB is struggling with the new O. It’s like we’re running in mud sometimes. Yet we’re not supposed to complain…..lol
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Really, Super Bowl contenders? Playoff contenders maybe, but Super Bowl? The season isn’t over last time I checked. 10 more games to play. Make your assumptions then.
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GOOD LUCK WITH SOME OF THESE DUMMIES PRIESTT I’M OUT AND YES SB CONTENDER THE AFC IS WIDE OPEN TEXANS AND PATS ONLY POWER TEAMS AND WE BEAT HOU LAST YEAR SO IF HUE WERE STILL HERE YES WE WOULD BE SB CONTENDERS
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Peace!!! Super Bowl contenders! LMAO!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
You just don’t get it do you? It’s a completely different philosophy and system. Last years team has nothing to do with this years.
I will say switching to the WCO/ ZBS and also hiring Knapp was a bad move. This squad isn’t made up for tht type of ball.
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It’s to bad a coaching staff can’t design around the strength of its player personnel. If they could, we could easily be 4-2. ZBS sucks. We are good when CP3 no huddles and calls his own plays. He doesn’t need knapp.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Can someone teach Branch how to operate in space in the pass game, and cover a zone?
I am really getting tired of seeing a guy catch a TD with Branch 5 yards behind chasing him after taking an Anthony Dorsett angle.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can’t get the running game going because the line can’t open any holes.
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Run game is struggling for sure, and more often than not there aren’t any holes.
But I am of the belief Darren is leaving a lot of yards on the field. There is the occasional hole, granted occasional, and he misses them too often.
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Something up with him, even when he gets in space he gets caught or brought down easily.
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It’s in his head after 6 games. Make 1 cut and hit top speed already.
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I think the fact that 4 out of 5 times there is absolutely no running room is also affecting him on the maybe 1 of 5 when he could break off a 5-10 yard type run. Hard to get in a rhythm and play with confidence when you are typically met in the backfield and constantly having to stop and try to pull some crazy run out of your azz.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
I don’t agree with dropping games to get a better draft pick. I know that we’re desperate for impact players but I think that if Reggie is sticking with Allen then DA needs to experience wins of all kinds; it does more for his credibility with the players we’ll retain.
Besides, Reggie is going to make his name here by putting together complete drafts. As long as they’re boar hunters, I’ll take them regardless of draft position. Depth is as important as anything else right now considering the state of the team.
If we can get to .500 and float around there for the remainder of the season, and not get Carson killed on the process, then we’ll be on our way. Sad to endure another year of rebuilding but at least it comes with a new administration. Still, we don’t have any excuse for playing like that at home. Even Shane was off the mark!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Mikeschoice Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
YOU CAN BLAME KNAPP ALL YOU WANT – dmac stinks period. drops balls, no cut back whatsoever in his step, runs into blockers, cant find holes, too stupid to find lanes . I was at texans games and watched arian foster today- he cuts and finds lanes , reverses field. MAKES PLAYS. Goodsons better than DMAC.
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I think you should just kill yourself
October 21st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Branch is no Ed Reed. He didn’t deserve that contract.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
I’ve seen enough to know that the Raider running game is broken. Thank you, Knapp.
We may have won this game but this will be a long year with no running game. Some of you may just see Pryor this year, and not because Palmer is benched.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Priest,we won.The old Priest I knew would have been happy with a win instead of complaining about coulda,woulda,shoulda.The old Priest would be here talking about what we need to do going forward instead of looking back.You did that earlier today then got dragged into the HJ bullsh1t.We won and we all know we need to improve.Lets discuss that instead of complaining about the past.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Barksdale had a really good first half, and a really bad second half from what I watched.
Although, that would have beat Veldheer’s stink bomb today.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can’t get the running game going because the line can’t open any holes.
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Run game is struggling for sure, and more often than not there aren’t any holes.
But I am of the belief Darren is leaving a lot of yards on the field. There is the occasional hole, granted occasional, and he misses them too often.
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Something up with him, even when he gets in space he gets caught or brought down easily.
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It’s in his head after 6 games. Make 1 cut and hit top speed already.
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I think the fact that 4 out of 5 times there is absolutely no running room is also affecting him on the maybe 1 of 5 when he could break off a 5-10 yard type run. Hard to get in a rhythm and play with confidence when you are typically met in the backfield and constantly having to stop and try to pull some crazy run out of your azz.
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Keep McFadden after the season and change systems. Knapp needs to go!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Take care bruh… they know what you say is true they just can’t admit it.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
The fact is that Hue Jackson, Bob Wylie, Wiz 1.0 and company had this offense overachieving and manufactured a lot of points through good coaching.
This year the offense is underachieving under these coaches.
It’s very telling that our offense is far better when Palmer is calling plays at the line in a no-huddle.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Random complain…
We should have taken a shot with a late round pick on Vontaze Burfict instead of a dime-a-dozen guy like Nathan Stupar, Burfict looks like a player and we used to take a chance on guys like him.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
The offensive line and running game has declined from a year ago. Looks like a duck….
October 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
If Gabbert and MJD had not gotten hurt, we would have lost this game. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team that just misses in every aspect of the game like this one.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Thing is ZBS is good for the long run… you can grab undrafted guys and put them behind the line if the Oline is working well and you can save money….
October 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
DMC is sooo frustrated right now they should keep him in a padded room and away from sharp objects. He’s missing holes out of frustration because he doesn’t expect it to be there.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Take care bruh… they know what you say is true they just can’t admit it.
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You can sit here all day and complain. Truth is new season new system. Either your a fan or not. Roll with what we got.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
It’s very telling that our offense is far better when Palmer is calling plays at the line in a no-huddle.
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Palmer is a good chess player for the most part, and going no-huddle does not allow the defense to change personnel.
An advantage ANY OC does not get the benefit of.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Barksdale had a really good first half, and a really bad second half from what I watched.
Although, that would have beat Veldheer’s stink bomb today.
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Veldheer played pretty well today … for a defensive end!!! Nice sack-strip of Palmer. Jackazz.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
There’s a difference between blind optimism and enjoying a win.
This was a big comeback win. Showed a lot of moxie to come back and refuse to lose this game.
As much as we are miserable about the losses we can maybe enjoy an improbable win when they come.
I’m not blind to the fact that this team has alot of work to do.
But how many really thought we would pull this out being down 20-6?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
One thing is for sure. The O-Line fkn sucks sht. Is it the ZBS and Knapp or are the linemen to stupid to figure it out? The blocking stinks, pass protection stinks. Something has got to change.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
DMC is sooo frustrated right now they should keep him in a padded room and away from sharp objects. He’s missing holes out of frustration because he doesn’t expect it to be there.
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Knapp has ruined the offense.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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A lot of people criticize Raiders .. i don’t call them trolls because i know they’re real fans of Raiders and are concerned.. but you’re obvious troll and every body knows it here, get off your meds , maybe you will realize that you’re just embarrassing yourself in here.. get out of this blog and get some help
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Wow you are delusional. How about saying more than just calling people “Troll” in your post. You NEVER SAY ANYTHING.
How about talking football?? Oh wait you can’t handle this blog so why don’t you leave.
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Why would any guy in his senses would try to talk about anything with a person who despises his favorite team?
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
I’ve been holding back on calling for Knapps head but after today’s first half performance I am willing to buy the gasoline for the torches.
He is absolutely horrible. I’m sick of hearing the execution excuse. His play calling is the worst I have seen. It’s hot garbage.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
The fact is that Hue Jackson, Bob Wylie, Wiz 1.0 and company had this offense overachieving and manufactured a lot of points through good coaching.
This year the offense is underachieving under these coaches.
It’s very telling that our offense is far better when Palmer is calling plays at the line in a no-huddle.
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Spot on. Wish DA saw what Palmer can do with the no huddle and how bad the scheme is.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
JFB.
I didn’t see a stink bomb from Veldheer, did he give up a sack? I saw him get beat man to man on one play when the DE got close enough to slap Palmer in the head.
And I watched a ton of the Rams game, Barksdale wasn’t a noticeable liability in his 1st start at Left Tackle.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
DMC is sooo frustrated right now they should keep him in a padded room and away from sharp objects. He’s missing holes out of frustration because he doesn’t expect it to be there.
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Knapp has ruined the offense.
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The scheme can;t be that bad, Mcfadden had success running behind this scheme in rookie year when he was known as Mcfelldown.. it’s just that the Line is not gelling together
October 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
JFB.
I didn’t see a stink bomb from Veldheer, did he give up a sack? I saw him get beat man to man on one play when the DE got close enough to slap Palmer in the head.
And I watched a ton of the Rams game, Barksdale wasn’t a noticeable liability in his 1st start at Left Tackle.
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The guy caused Palmer fumble 2nd game in a row
October 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Allen and Knapp need to figure it out. McFadden must get rolling for this team to advance to the next level.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
But how many really thought we would pull this out being down 20-6?
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DJ, gotta give props to the defense for keeping them in the game.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Division rival next week. The Raiders need to step it up a notch.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Allen and Knapp need to figure it out. McFadden must get rolling for this team to advance to the next level.
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Yeah this is beyond pathetic.. hopefully this team needs more experience in it and within couple of weeks they will start kicking ass
October 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Reptile,
Our system is not that bad. Zone blocking, christ’s sake. It’s not that unusual. It’s a modern NFL system. That is no excuse for Carson Campbell to be as mistake prone as he is. The point about McDonalds being: If a minimum wage clerk is expected to be professional, so should a multi million dollar/year NFL football player. The ZBS is not that foreign. At the end of the day, it comes down to taking snaps and throwing to guys who catch the ball, something’s Carson’s been doing since he was 10.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Down 2 TD’s, that aint shiat!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Bob,
Veldheer was routinely beat EVERY 3rd down pass play.
It was easily his worst game as a Raider.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
But how many really thought we would pull this out being down 20-6?
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DJ, gotta give props to the defense for keeping them in the game.
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Yeah, we always credit the O when a team comes back but the real hero’s are those , who shut down the other O that allows the O to catch up and win
October 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Allen and Knapp need to figure it out. McFadden must get rolling for this team to advance to the next level.
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Yeah this is beyond pathetic.. hopefully this team needs more experience in it and within couple of weeks they will start kicking ass
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We can only hope. I’m out, peace!
October 21st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Original troll is back
October 21st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Allen and Knapp need to figure it out. McFadden must get rolling for this team to advance to the next level.
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Yeah this is beyond pathetic.. hopefully this team needs more experience in it and within couple of weeks they will start kicking ass
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We can only hope. I’m out, peace!
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Have a good1
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Carson Campbell doesn’t have “it”.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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A lot of people criticize Raiders .. i don’t call them trolls because i know they’re real fans of Raiders and are concerned.. but you’re obvious troll and every body knows it here, get off your meds , maybe you will realize that you’re just embarrassing yourself in here.. get out of this blog and get some help
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Wow you are delusional. How about saying more than just calling people “Troll” in your post. You NEVER SAY ANYTHING.
How about talking football?? Oh wait you can’t handle this blog so why don’t you leave.
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Why would any guy in his senses would try to talk about anything with a person who despises his favorite team?
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What the hell are you talking about? Hey one of my good friends a Bronco fan. We have some fun football discussions.
Point is some Raiders fans think they are super bowl bound. Some think this team sucks and should lose out for a draft pick. EVERYBODY is entitled to their opinion. Calling names does no good. Try putting some words together to support your view. This is a FOOTBALL BLOG.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
And Barksdale had a series where he gave up a sack, a 4 yard loss on a run, and an epicly funny missed block where he whiffed on the DE completely and ended up nearly face-first in the turf.
Good first half, maybe really good. Just as bad in the 2nd half.
When the starter gets back healthy, he won’t start again.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Carson Campbell doesn’t have “it”.
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Hi, troll # 1
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
If Reggie wants another draft pick and to save cap money easily, he needs to trade McFadden and flex those personnel evaluation muscles we hear so much about to find an Alfred Morris type in the 6th round.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Start to draft for O line, franchise QB.
Trade McFadden. A number one draft pick RB should be a persistent breakaway back. Our backup RB has as many breakaway runs as McFadden this year.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
But how many really thought we would pull this out being down 20-6?
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Given how bad the Jags offense was, I figured they had a good chance to tie it. It was like pulling teeth, though, trying to watch the Raider offense sustain drives.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
On the bright side, a win is a win and Palmer was right to call this a must-win game.
Hate to hate on this team after a gutsy win like that so I’ll back off on the criticism for now.
Hopefully they can start to play better here. Knock off KC next week and follow it up with a win against TB, the following week. However, TB is not a great team but they’re playing much better ball than us right now. So I don’t think you can even consider penciling that one in as a W right now.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
But I will NOW agree we should have kept Barksdale, because I think we will be looking for a LT next offseason.
Veldheer is no anchor, he couldn’t pass-protect at home against the worst pass-rushing defense in the NFL.
October 21st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Who cares about the I’m more of a fan BS. What a bunch of wankers.
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The “I’m a bigger fan than you” nonsense is the stupidest thing I ever seen, yet we seem to see it weekly or almost daily.
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No guys, This is a Raider FOOTBALL BLOG.Every time somebody says any thing with constructive criticism about the raiders this Mcfadden20 calls them a troll. He says nothing. That crap has got to stop. He does not need to be on this blog.
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A lot of people criticize Raiders .. i don’t call them trolls because i know they’re real fans of Raiders and are concerned.. but you’re obvious troll and every body knows it here, get off your meds , maybe you will realize that you’re just embarrassing yourself in here.. get out of this blog and get some help
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Wow you are delusional. How about saying more than just calling people “Troll” in your post. You NEVER SAY ANYTHING.
How about talking football?? Oh wait you can’t handle this blog so why don’t you leave.
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Why would any guy in his senses would try to talk about anything with a person who despises his favorite team?
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What the hell are you talking about? Hey one of my good friends a Bronco fan. We have some fun football discussions.
Point is some Raiders fans think they are super bowl bound. Some think this team sucks and should lose out for a draft pick. EVERYBODY is entitled to their opinion. Calling names does no good. Try putting some words together to support your view. This is a FOOTBALL BLOG.
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I don’t care what a person thinks about the Raiders as long the guy is a real Raiders fan , just can’t take trolls pretending to be Raiders fans and always pouring salt over anything that good happens
October 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Bill Romanowski @billromanowski
Anyone riding Carson Palmer is plain wrong. Dude has taken a beating today and is grinding to make plays. #raiders
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There we go. Any of you clowns want to argue with Romo?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
On the bright side, a win is a win and Palmer was right to call this a must-win game.
Hate to hate on this team after a gutsy win like that so I’ll back off on the criticism for now.
Hopefully they can start to play better here. Knock off KC next week and follow it up with a win against TB, the following week. However, TB is not a great team but they’re playing much better ball than us right now. So I don’t think you can even consider penciling that one in as a W right now.
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I def thought they would come out firing on all cylinders after last weeks showing.. i was disappointed as every other fan but i applaud them for doing something Raiders team wouldn’t even think about doing .. that’s coming back from down 2 scores in 2nd half… 2nd time this year they did that.. this team can be pretty good with better execution
October 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Carson Campbell doesn’t have “it”.
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Hi, troll # 1
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This is exactly what i am talking about Mcfadden20.
“Calling names does no good. Try putting some words together to support your view”
October 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
past Raiders teams wouldn’t even think about doing ** ^^^^^^
October 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Good night everyone. Try and enjoy Victory Monday.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Carson Campbell doesn’t have “it”.
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Hi, troll # 1
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This is exactly what i am talking about Mcfadden20.
“Calling names does no good. Try putting some words together to support your view”
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I’m not calling other guys trolls , there are other people in here who are criticizing the Raiders but i know they’re real fans ,so i don’t mind and i know the team is not superbowl bound or anything … just want the trolls to gtfo here
October 21st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
So,JFB,it makes no difference they were doing things they’ve never done or showed before?I agree the oline was terrible this game,but they did come together more at the end and got the job done.As you have repeatedly pointed out,this is a new line and a new system so hopefully they will get their sh!t together as time goes on.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
On the bright side, a win is a win and Palmer was right to call this a must-win game.
Hate to hate on this team after a gutsy win like that so I’ll back off on the criticism for now.
Hopefully they can start to play better here. Knock off KC next week and follow it up with a win against TB, the following week. However, TB is not a great team but they’re playing much better ball than us right now. So I don’t think you can even consider penciling that one in as a W right now.
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Funny thing about that. Tb does not matter yet KC is all that matters. Denver played like crap all season and got to the second round last year. We have an actual QB with an improving D. If we can get a little better each week we will have a chance. 2 weeks from now TB could be a bug on a window. But today KC is the thing.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
247.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
But I will NOW agree we should have kept Barksdale, because I think we will be looking for a LT next offseason.
Veldheer is no anchor, he couldn’t pass-protect at home against the worst pass-rushing defense in the NFL.
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Not just Veldheer, the whole O-line fkn sucks. Is it scheme? Today was pathetic.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Can they please get Ausberry involved more? I know Myers is the number one and deservingly so. The wiz just seems to have playmaking ability. Would be nice to see just a little.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
R8RNAZ Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
On the bright side, a win is a win and Palmer was right to call this a must-win game.
Hate to hate on this team after a gutsy win like that so I’ll back off on the criticism for now.
Hopefully they can start to play better here. Knock off KC next week and follow it up with a win against TB, the following week. However, TB is not a great team but they’re playing much better ball than us right now. So I don’t think you can even consider penciling that one in as a W right now.
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Funny thing about that. Tb does not matter yet KC is all that matters. Denver played like crap all season and got to the second round last year. We have an actual QB with an improving D. If we can get a little better each week we will have a chance. 2 weeks from now TB could be a bug on a window. But today KC is the thing.
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We can def get better at so many things.. but i will take this ugly loss today and work on some things to get better at and beat the Chiefs next week
October 21st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
A win is a win, it is now on the team and staff to improve and win a division game next week.
I watched the SF Giants in 2010 get outscored during the year, play awful ball at times in the playoffs, but will themselves to a WS title.
This team is not going to compete for a SB obviously, but competitive football after Turkey Day has not been a given most years of late, so that’s what I am hoping for.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
So,JFB,it makes no difference they were doing things they’ve never done or showed before?
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Jags deserve credit for playing with a lot of fire upfront, a lot more than us.
But that was a brutal performance, coach even said so without hesitation.
Can’t have that week to week.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
It doesn’t matter how we win games at this point as long as they keep on winning and keep on improving game to game , if we’re in a place to win the division at later point.. then i would want my team to start beating other pretty good and enter playoffs on fire
October 21st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Raiders offense has had 6 games to practice Knapps scheme. If they don’t get by now then a change needs to happen.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
It doesn’t matter how we win games at this point as long as they keep on winning and keep on improving game to game , if we’re in a place to win the division at later point.. then i would want my team to start beating other pretty good and enter playoffs on fire
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Right on point!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
True, Veldheer didn’t handle the stunt well and ended up giving up that sack-fumble, JFB I missed that Barksdale series, sounds like an awful one.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
One thing that was good to see today was Palmer look to other WRs besides just Moore.DHB had a nice game and it was good to see him finally getting some action.That can only help the team and Moore.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
A win is a win, it is now on the team and staff to improve and win a division game next week.
I watched the SF Giants in 2010 get outscored during the year, play awful ball at times in the playoffs, but will themselves to a WS title.
This team is not going to compete for a SB obviously, but competitive football after Turkey Day has not been a given most years of late, so that’s what I am hoping for.
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yeah, a team can get on fire and win it all .. last years NYG almost missed out on the playoffs but won games late in the season and won the SB.. we have a lot of things to get better at, but i wouldn’t rule us out getting better at them as the season goes along
October 21st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
We play in possibly the worst division in football. Even more reason to not “tank” the season. It really won’t take much to win this thing and get into the playoffs for the first time in over a decade.
To me, to have that feeling again — that alone is worth it.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Raiders offense has had 6 games to practice Knapps scheme. If they don’t get by now then a change needs to happen.
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we need stability. finish the seson and move forward. this is gonna take time. 2nd game with all our WR’s. DMAC is struggling he’s gotta figure it out. Today had me pulling out my hair. I yelled at the tv cursed and paced out of frustration. I never quit hoping we could have something good happen to us. Still hard to watch. At least till the end.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
JFB I missed that Barksdale series, sounds like an awful one.
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First or second series of the second half.
Either way, he played well for his first start, and I would say he outplayed our LT, going against Matthews while our guy was going up against some guy named Mincey.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
One thing that was good to see today was Palmer look to other WRs besides just Moore.DHB had a nice game and it was good to see him finally getting some action.That can only help the team and Moore.
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Yeah, he’s def trusting the rookies more now, as you could see him trying those fade passes to J CRINER AND STREATER
October 21st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Carson Campbell doesn’t have “it”.
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We’ll take him anyday over your POS Alex Smith! HA HA HA!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Raiders won ugly when they weren’t “suppose” to. thats progress.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Mc20-i’m talking specifically about getting DHB involved.The guy has talent-even though many on here will dispute that-and getting him involved opens up things for everyone else.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I love Shane Lechler, but will never put him in the category of a Ray Guy because he can’t kick to the “coffin” corner.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I love Shane Lechler, but will never put him in the category of a Ray Guy because he can’t kick to the “coffin” corner.
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Shane looks bored this year.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Bored or old?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Greg Knapp is the worst OC I have seen in 50 years of watching pro football.
We only moved the ball when Palmer was calling the plays.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Rich, bored and old.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
morilla Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Rich, bored and old.
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Rich and old sound appropriate. I hope he is not bored!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Don’t know how much no huddle well see next week. Arrowhead is loud and Knapps ego is huge.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We scored 26 pts this week and we have to hear about our “avg”???
Players made plays today and got us 26 pts.
And we WON!!!!
What’s the problem?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Albert, I wasn’t surprised we pulled it out, considering how bad their offense sucks. This was no classic Raider victory. It was embarrassing. We should have killed them. This was to be a statement game.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
I hope the team gets a good laugh when they watch the game film,
especially when they watch Palmers so called shovel pass. WTF was that?
This team has a long way to go.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
A win is a win, it is now on the team and staff to improve and win a division game next week.
I watched the SF Giants in 2010 get outscored during the year, play awful ball at times in the playoffs, but will themselves to a WS title.
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I really want SF to lose tomorrow, but it would be awesome to see them get swept by Detroit!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
“Coach Knapp let us have it, and we took it as almost a threat. He was all over us and sometimes you need that from your coach”
Nice to see some passion from the coaching staff – at last!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Beach, Alex Smith is overrated too. Notice how NYG’s defense makes him look like Singletary’s Alex Smith?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
G-Men knock the Niners back to the Singletary days.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
I give this win to Carson Palmer. He was running the hurry up getting us out of poorly called Knapp plays. The running game was again a complete joke. Carson almost single handedly pulled the team on his back. Don’t tell me the defense won anything. The only reason they looked halfway decent was that Jacksonville lost their starting QB and Chad Henne did a great Kyle Boller impression in the second half. I would like to see Carson running the offense at the line of scrimmage for the rest of the season. Also, if someone could slip some Turbo-Lax into Knapp’s morning game day coffee it wouldn’t be the worst thing
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
I’m with Palmer. An ugly win over a bad team is better than a close loss to a very good team. Now, if these guys can think they are playing Houston or Atlanta every week, we are in good shape!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
assmauler, Raiders were supposed to win, actually. This was not an upset.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Knapp’s passion is what we need.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
J Hill.
“What’s the problem?”
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You didn’t notice a problem today?.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Beach, the close loss to the good team was Palmer’s fault, as was the poor performance against a bad team.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Get out there Knapp and whup some a$$
October 21st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Sullivan, do I expect more from Carson? Yes, I do. But, I give him credit for making plays down the stretch. I think it is hard to really judge him this season because he is getting very poor protection. And 289., to not give the defense credit is asenine. I don’t care who was lining up on the other side, they kicked some arse in the 2nd half, and we have seen very little of that the past 10 seasons. I loved it!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
He was running the hurry up getting us out of poorly called Knapp plays.
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Not to bag on you but that wasn’t exactly a hurry up offense when they were doing the no huddle.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Knapp saved the day give him some credit
October 21st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Marley,
I noticed that the team woke up after being disrespected by the Jags going for it on 4th down and also kicking that onsides kick.
Perfect football???
Far from it.
But turning it around in the 2nd half, putting up 20 pts, and snatching a win is certainly progress, imo.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
ANY win is better than ANY loss. You people debate the dumbest things.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Problem is not Knapp – its lack of talent
October 21st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Just Win Baby!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
1) Trade McFadden. He will never be our “Marshall Faulk”. A good game here and there does not justify a number one pick.
2) Draft Franchise QB
3) Address O-line through draft or FA
October 21st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Problem is not Knapp – its lack of talent
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The O-Line is making a good case to prove your point.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Let’s put it this way, if McFadden was who we drafted him to be, we’d have won this game 44-7.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Mc20-i’m talking specifically about getting DHB involved.The guy has talent-even though many on here will dispute that-and getting him involved opens up things for everyone else.
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That’s true, Palmer seems to do better when he have all the supporting cast around him and is not shuffling in and out of the line up with injuries… i hope all Receivers can stay healthy… Might be a good time to pick Streater up in fantasy football… What QB wouldn’t trust a guy who snatched those passes at their heighest point .. damn that kid can jump .. wow
October 21st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
And for the 2nd time this season we saw Palmer kind of wave Knapp off, it was late in the 4th quarter and Knapp was saying to Palmer and he just turned away.
Palmer is a veteran and knows better than picking a fight with the Coaches, specially in public, he knows he can’t win with a new coach and GM in town, hell CP is probably auditioning for a new team in 2013 so he’s on his best behavior, good for him, not so good for this team.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Some players are hard to coach
October 21st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Franch QB and O line, and we’re ready. Dead wood’s out.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Knapp himself could have thrown a better shovel pass than Carson did.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
We’re fine this year.. Our O line should get better with more time and D should get even better when A curry and both starting CB’s back.. you guys are feeding the trolls way too much… just chill , we can do this.. i am just not sure what kinda team will show up each sunday.. but if a team shows up like the 1 that played in the 4th quarter or the team that played against Atlanta , then i feel really good about our season.. but we’re in big trouble if they play Jackel and Hyde rest of the season.. but i really do like how they responded against Jax after being down 2 scores.. i like how they went up against the undefeated ATL Falcons team.. i think this team can do it if they can get this running game going and can pass rush better
October 21st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
“with more time”. lol. What do you think this is, the Al Davis era?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
What was DA doing when Knapp was kicking a$$ ?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Palmer apparently had a pretty good game.
He’s # 5 QB in fantasy points for the week.
Here’s the top 5:
Quarterbacks
Rank
Player
Points
1.
Josh Freeman, TB
29.70
2.
Drew Brees, NO
29.18
3.
Aaron Rodgers, GB
25.68
4.
Robert Griffin III, WAS
23.22
5.
Carson Palmer, OAK
19.32
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
We’re a results based organization now, starting with the players. Like all successful NFL teams.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
If we do win the next two; if we do go 4-4 I have the feeling it won’t come easy in any game. Tampa Bay makes me the most nervous. But what the heck – Oakland 26 Kansas City 20.
The AFC is so open this year, we need this 4-4
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I understand the Raiders won, but I feel like we lost.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
And for the 2nd time this season we saw Palmer kind of wave Knapp off, it was late in the 4th quarter and Knapp was saying to Palmer and he just turned away.
Palmer is a veteran and knows better than picking a fight with the Coaches, specially in public, he knows he can’t win with a new coach and GM in town, hell CP is probably auditioning for a new team in 2013 so he’s on his best behavior, good for him, not so good for this team.
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No he really like it here, I’m sure he doesn’t like the protection his team is giving him but he does like this team and does want to win really bad with this time to prove nay sayers like Mistic wrong
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
“with more time”. lol. What do you think this is, the Al Davis era?
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TROLL
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Kiwi, if only Knapp’s playcalling can match his passion, we would be on to something!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Sorry for the bad news, but up next is a Chiefs team also desparate for a win and also coming off a bye. Not good, no matter what their record tries to tell you.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I understand the Raiders won, but I feel like we lost.
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OKay troll
October 21st, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Sorry for the bad news, but up next is a Chiefs team also desparate for a win and also coming off a bye. Not good, no matter what their record tries to tell you.
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That’s true but if we can bring our A game we should be fine
October 21st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
assmauler, Raiders were supposed to win, actually. This was not an upset.
>> hey, closet h*mo i never said it was an upset, reading comprehension should be a goal of yours dips*it
October 21st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Wow Mc20, now everyone is a troll?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Raiders can beat the queefs.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Sorry for the bad news, but up next is a Chiefs team also desparate for a win and also coming off a bye. Not good, no matter what their record tries to tell you.
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Yeah, and then we get Tampa off of their Thursday game. They’ll be coming off a 10 day break. This is the most winnable stretch of the season, but all three teams we face will be well rested, well focused, and desperate.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Wow Mc20, now everyone is a troll?
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Everyone ?? never said every one is a troll.. you been following this blog and every message or what? or are you one of those , that i called out for trolling?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
ok, McFadden20, that was harsh. The truth is, I don’t see this organization being as patient with players as Al was. Al believed in his players, because typically he was at war with his coaches and wanted to prove that his hand picked players were the right ones. For that reason, he gave them more time than most organizations would have. As far as we know, Mark, Reggie, D.A., and his assistants work in sync with each other and get along. If any one of them decides a player has to go, the others will have their back.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Palmer will make this team better. knapp will ruin it. I’d rather squeak into the playoffs than tank the season for a crap shoot draft pick. Palmer will get us there. In spite of knapp. The D will get better to keep us in games. Penalties could still be a concern tho not as alarming as last year.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:47 pm
MonumentRaider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Sorry for the bad news, but up next is a Chiefs team also desparate for a win and also coming off a bye. Not good, no matter what their record tries to tell you.
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Yeah, and then we get Tampa off of their Thursday game. They’ll be coming off a 10 day break. This is the most winnable stretch of the season, but all three teams we face will be well rested, well focused, and desperate.
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I was thinking about the schedule we face teams that don’t look good on paper but all these teams are either coming off bye week or 10 day break ..not going to say conspiracy theory or something but this is BS lol
October 21st, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I understand the Raiders won, but I feel like we lost.
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So when we lose games we had control of and ended up losing do you feel like we won those games?
Example: Detroit, Buffalo last yr.?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
We’re a results based organization now, starting with the players. Like all successful NFL teams.
>> collecting cans outside the stadium doesn’t make YOU part of the organization genius, you have to actually be EMPLOYED by the organization.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
glad we won but if this is the future….the three stooges have really conned the raider nation…a come from behind win over the worst team in the nfl ( without 2 of their most valuable players?)
October 21st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Good night people, bottom line is we’re 2-4 tonight and that’s what we were hoping for this morning…
October 21st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
ok, McFadden20, that was harsh. The truth is, I don’t see this organization being as patient with players as Al was. Al believed in his players, because typically he was at war with his coaches and wanted to prove that his hand picked players were the right ones. For that reason, he gave them more time than most organizations would have. As far as we know, Mark, Reggie, D.A., and his assistants work in sync with each other and get along. If any one of them decides a player has to go, the others will have their back.
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Ok, thanks for your management 101 now would you go follow your favorite team?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
I will take a win all day every day. Those infamous words “Just win baby” really rang true today. I think all Raider fans have to love stealing victory from the jaws of defeat. But when your team looks like that against the Jaguars, there is definitely cause for concern.
My major two:
1) Blain Gabbert was on his way to picking this team apart. This is a guy who is bordering on worst starting QB in football, and he was just ripping us. Even without that pitiful blown coverage. Disgusting.
2) When are we going to start even trying to combat the blitz on third down. We have been dreadful against it all season, and showing no signs of picking up a block, or running hot. No matter the situation. A good defense has to look at it as shooting fish in a barrel. I think it is the most disconcerning thing about this team. We all know when and where its coming, yet the coordinator, nor quarterback do a thing about it–and I’m a Palmer apologist.
But we won. I love that we won, and I will take that kind of win every week, as long as it is a win. So I’m having a good night-just proceeding with extreme caution. and how bad is Chad Henne?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
We certainly need an offensive line, too. And a franchise QB. Veteran QBs don’t do it anymore. Every year a franch QB wins the Super Bowl, just about.
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We????? What the funk are you talking about Niner sissy?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
glad we won but if this is the future….the three stooges have really conned the raider nation…a come from behind win over the worst team in the nfl ( without 2 of their most valuable players?)
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Hey there troll, how was your afternoon .. oh i know you were weeping all day long after you dreams were shattered
October 21st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Al went 8 seasons without a winning record, and some of you still believed in him. Yet you want to do away with the new management, not even half way into their first season?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
328.mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Wow Mc20, now everyone is a troll?
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Everyone ?? never said every one is a troll.. you been following this blog and every message or what? or are you one of those , that i called out for trolling?
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What did you call me out for trolling for again, I can’t remember. Sorry, been drinkin.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction . Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Palmer will make this team better. knapp will ruin it. I’d rather squeak into the playoffs than tank the season for a crap shoot draft pick. Palmer will get us there. In spite of knapp. The D will get better to keep us in games. Penalties could still be a concern tho not as alarming as last year.
>> Palmer is good enough. defense just needs to pressure the QB, somehow. Raiders had a whopping 2 sacks today and it brought the season total to 6!! gotta fix that to win.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I would never ask the Davis loyalists to give McKenzie the 8 years they gave Al to so much as muster a winning season. Heck, I wouldn’t even ask them for 4. Just 3. 3 years. That’s it. Can McKenzie get 3 years, when Al had 8 straight years with not so much as a winning record? Can Reggie just get 3? We’re half way into year one for Reggie, and it’s off with his head, already. You guys don’t see how unreasonable that is?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
assmauler, Raiders were supposed to win, actually. This was not an upset.
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Why are you even indulging this sissified fruitcake 49er fan?
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Al went 8 seasons without a winning record, and some of you still believed in him. Yet you want to do away with the new management, not even half way into their first season?
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Everybody loves this new management , its just you and your other screen names going back and forth .. c’mon WHiner fan get out already
October 21st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I think we’ve lost many games we SHOULD have won the last 3 yrs.
I’m not talking about games we were favored in and blew, i’m talking games we were well in control of and choked away.
I’ll take a game like this every once in a while.
The team was as low as u can be in the last 3 yrs.; down 20-6 in the 2nd half at home to the worst team in the league and staring 1-5 in the face..they find a way to bring home the W.
I give them props for showing the moxie to get it done today.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Keep drinking the pis flavored koolaid Reggie is serving you…mcfd20…I hate that the three stooges have done this to the raiders…. You must be glad with the 2-4 record so far…
October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Sorry for the bad news, but up next is a Chiefs team also desparate for a win and also coming off a bye. Not good, no matter what their record tries to tell you.
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Yeah, and then we get Tampa off of their Thursday game. They’ll be coming off a 10 day break. This is the most winnable stretch of the season, but all three teams we face will be well rested, well focused, and desperate.
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That’s just crap, the NFL doesn’t randomly schedule games, they take a detailed look into every one of them, if other teams are facing the same issue it’s ok but of not…couple that with us being the team that will travel more miles in 2012 and one would think the NFL wants to get this franchise out of Oakland and into a profitable city and possibly a new ownership group.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
You guys are such geniuses. I’ve always been niners all the way, you all were just too stupid to see it. I like winners…period. My niner hat fits well thank you.
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Exhibit A…Sullivan the b*%ch
October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Raiders win, and hopefully SF gets Cained tomorrow night! Good night!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
We certainly need an offensive line, too. And a franchise QB. Veteran QBs don’t do it anymore. Every year a franch QB wins the Super Bowl, just about.
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We????? What the funk are you talking about Niner sissy?
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He is talking about the whiners.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Al went 8 seasons without a winning record, and some of you still believed in him. Yet you want to do away with the new management, not even half way into their first season?
>> listen up Sandusky44, you have zero credibility on this blog, congrats. you know jack and sh*t about the Raiders and football and are no doubt an egalitarian liberal baffoon as well.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I would never ask the Davis loyalists to give McKenzie the 8 years they gave Al to so much as muster a winning season. Heck, I wouldn’t even ask them for 4. Just 3. 3 years. That’s it. Can McKenzie get 3 years, when Al had 8 straight years with not so much as a winning record? Can Reggie just get 3? We’re half way into year one for Reggie, and it’s off with his head, already. You guys don’t see how unreasonable that is?
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I would never want to ask Whiner fans , what should we expect from Raiders so please leave this blog
October 21st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I’ve always followed the Niners. So have you. I’ve always appreciated quality play. So have you. Fortunate for us we can watch the Niners play when we are in need of watching a good team. You see the way Gore runs? The way their defense steps up? How Crabtree makes those awesome catches? What’s not to love?
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Exhibit B…Sullivan the b*%ch
October 21st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I would never ask the Davis loyalists to give McKenzie the 8 years they gave Al to so much as muster a winning season. Heck, I wouldn’t even ask them for 4. Just 3. 3 years. That’s it. Can McKenzie get 3 years, when Al had 8 straight years with not so much as a winning record? Can Reggie just get 3? We’re half way into year one for Reggie, and it’s off with his head, already. You guys don’t see how unreasonable that is?
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I see the reason and logic. I’m just so fed up. I’m not a fan who’s calling for Reggie to go already, but I get the ones who do. Whether it’s his fault or not, we’ve been losing for 10 years now. No playoffs; no hope for most of those seasons. The fact is, it feels like Reggie was okay with losing this year. I’m not okay with losing. I don’t think most of us are. I have watched EVERY SINGLE GAME over the last 10 years. I’m sick of this. I want to win now. So I get the knee-jerk reaction. Can’t we just get one little measly playoff appearance? We’ve waited long enough…
October 21st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
how in the Hell are you people happy about this win, they barely beat the worst team next to the Raiders, without their 2 best players, its disgusting that you people are celebrating this pathetic win. Dennis Allen is not HC material face it, facts are there, HE IS NO LEADER. 2nd you would figure this offense would be hitting all cylinders by now and they can’t, they need a RedZone Receiver, so many opportunities in the Red Zone and this offense doesnt know how to get it done. McKenzie’s ego is costing this team, he hired that moron Greg Krapp, dude should be coaching little league. If it wasnt for the pass interference, all you you would be here whining on how bad this team is, Glad they won, but come on this team aint going to make noise, at best 6-10.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Keep drinking the pis flavored koolaid Reggie is serving you…mcfd20…I hate that the three stooges have done this to the raiders…. You must be glad with the 2-4 record so far…
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C’mon troll , we don’t need your insightful insight ,,gtfo
October 21st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 14th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
I say i’m a Raider fan cuz you guys wouldn’t shut up if I said otherwise. I am what I am. You are who you are.
There’s a big difference. I get to wear a niner hat and feel like a winner..you guys get to be 1-4 and suffer.
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Exhibit C…Sullivan the b*%ch
Sullivan44 is the Gimp from Pulp Fiction. He actually enjoys this abuse.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I understand the Raiders won, but I feel like we lost.
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DJ,
You shouldn’t feel like that. I tuned into the game late in the 3rd quarter to find that DMAC was again, being vastly overused by Knapp (big head): Mafadden up the middle – 2 yds; pass to Mafadden dropped; Mcfadden on the edge stuffed for no gain.
One third of the through the 4th quarter, big head used Reece and also put in Goodson and mixed things up.
Not sure big head will ever learn to deviate from his scheme until DA fires his or forces him to do so. Mcfadden isn’t happing this season, and one doesn’t rest with failure.
But the Raiders battled back when CP got into the no-huddle and that’s a good sign. The re-vamped defense at least can now prevent blowouts.
Finally, the Jags are a team the Raiders have had problems with for the past 10 yrs. I knew this was going to be no cake walk. We are just lucky we knocked Maurice Drew out of the game, and the tide eventually swung with us.
October 21st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
manassamauler Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction . Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Palmer will make this team better. knapp will ruin it. I’d rather squeak into the playoffs than tank the season for a crap shoot draft pick. Palmer will get us there. In spite of knapp. The D will get better to keep us in games. Penalties could still be a concern tho not as alarming as last year.
>> Palmer is good enough. defense just needs to pressure the QB, somehow. Raiders had a whopping 2 sacks today and it brought the season total to 6!! gotta fix that to win.
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I read on the stat line we had 3 sacks actually.
-Seymour
-Houston
-Burris (His 1st as a pro)
October 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
MonumentRaider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I would never ask the Davis loyalists to give McKenzie the 8 years they gave Al to so much as muster a winning season. Heck, I wouldn’t even ask them for 4. Just 3. 3 years. That’s it. Can McKenzie get 3 years, when Al had 8 straight years with not so much as a winning record? Can Reggie just get 3? We’re half way into year one for Reggie, and it’s off with his head, already. You guys don’t see how unreasonable that is?
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I see the reason and logic. I’m just so fed up. I’m not a fan who’s calling for Reggie to go already, but I get the ones who do. Whether it’s his fault or not, we’ve been losing for 10 years now. No playoffs; no hope for most of those seasons. The fact is, it feels like Reggie was okay with losing this year. I’m not okay with losing. I don’t think most of us are. I have watched EVERY SINGLE GAME over the last 10 years. I’m sick of this. I want to win now. So I get the knee-jerk reaction. Can’t we just get one little measly playoff appearance? We’ve waited long enough…
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Hey i don’t know who you’re but if you’re not a troll then congrats you just fed the troll
October 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Reggie McKenzie inherited a team that lost 4 of 5 at the end of last season, and an organization that hasn’t had a winning season in a decade.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I understand the Raiders won, but I feel like we lost.
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That was actually Raiders for Life that said that, I was responding to his post.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
raiderdav Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
how in the Hell are you people happy about this win, they barely beat the worst team next to the Raiders, without their 2 best players, its disgusting that you people are celebrating this pathetic win. Dennis Allen is not HC material face it, facts are there, HE IS NO LEADER. 2nd you would figure this offense would be hitting all cylinders by now and they can’t, they need a RedZone Receiver, so many opportunities in the Red Zone and this offense doesnt know how to get it done. McKenzie’s ego is costing this team, he hired that moron Greg Krapp, dude should be coaching little league. If it wasnt for the pass interference, all you you would be here whining on how bad this team is, Glad they won, but come on this team aint going to make noise, at best 6-10.
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NICE TROLLING THERE .. YOU GET PAID FOR this?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Mcfd20 It’s too easy troll…pull your pants up, Reggie is doing you damage…
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Jaguars offense had our number to start the game. They were passing when #55 was in there, and running when he wasn’t. Our run defense without #55 is better than our pass defense with #55. I know this is nothing new, but it’s painfully obvious McClain is a liability out there in the passing game.
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McCheese is a liability anytime he’s out there. By the end of the season, possibly sooner, he will herewith be known as McGone.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Reggie McKenzie inherits a team that loses 4 of 5 at the end of last year, an organization that hasn’t made the playoffs since 2002…and in his first 6 games, his record is 2-4? Somehow that sounds astonishingly normal.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Reggie McKenzie inherited a team that lost 4 of 5 at the end of last season, and an organization that hasn’t had a winning season in a decade.
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yeah WE KNOW … now please go talk to your fellow WHINERS FANS
October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Get lost, Sullivan. Crabtree is a bum, too.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Raiders all day chumps!!!! I’m not happy how we won but dammit we won. Why even respond to these f@g trolls and fake fans. Be happy we got the win. 187 on a chief.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Troll Alert Clarification:
Refs didn’t want to piss of Raider nation today. Especially at home.
Palmer > knapp
If you think our coaches are the 3 stooges, you are not a troll.
Al Davis built this team and it is disgusting to see the new order not preserving his legacy. Trolls, no need to respond. It will fall on deaf ears.
Raiders will win most of their remaining games. Bucks concern me cuz they are physical and big off the bus.
Cable is a good o line coach. Eat that haters.
Code ‘Get Ova It, Baby’
October 21st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Hey i don’t know who you’re but if you’re not a troll then congrats you just fed the troll
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I don’t know what’s up with all the personal rivalries in here, but I’m not a part of them. Just responding and giving my opinion. I don’t like Reggie. I don’t think he wanted playoffs this year. But I’ll give him a chance. We’re 2-4. We CAN be 4-4; and anything is possible from there. Especially this year in the AFC.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Question for the guys who have gone to games this year, do players interact with DA during the game? do they high five or get buttslapped or any of the usual coach-player stuff?.
I ask because watching the games on TV it seems like DA is always hanging around by himself, celebrating a play by himself with no one around him, seems like he farted or something.
I maybe wrong, I’m sure I missed some interaction but what do you get from the stands?.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Mcfd20 It’s too easy troll…pull your pants up, Reggie is doing you damage…
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I see the set up you trolls are trying to do here … 1 is blasting the current management , the other is blasting the previous .. so that the other can get to say we Raiders fans are dumb for asking for not giving the new management chance after the hell we been through .. NICE man .. keep trolling
October 21st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
no im speaking the TRUTH.
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how in the Hell are you people happy about this win, they barely beat the worst team next to the Raiders, without their 2 best players, its disgusting that you people are celebrating this pathetic win. Dennis Allen is not HC material face it, facts are there, HE IS NO LEADER. 2nd you would figure this offense would be hitting all cylinders by now and they can’t, they need a RedZone Receiver, so many opportunities in the Red Zone and this offense doesnt know how to get it done. McKenzie’s ego is costing this team, he hired that moron Greg Krapp, dude should be coaching little league. If it wasnt for the pass interference, all you you would be here whining on how bad this team is, Glad they won, but come on this team aint going to make noise, at best 6-10.
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NICE TROLLING THERE .. YOU GET PAID FOR this?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
what a game
October 21st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
The guy feels like a winner because he wears the hat of a team that hasn’t won a Super Bowl in a generation. Wow, what a special loser!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Arm Chair GM, McFadden 20:
You two, as I pointed out to McFadden20 before, have mistaken loyalty for stupidity.
I wouldn’t spend my time worshiping a crummy team like the Raiders.
Now here comes the outrage and invectives: I don’t give a damn: you are simply stupid: no more no less.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Weird how the 49ers have become a blue collar team that wins consistently. Sound familiar? And now you’re seeing 49ers apparel with skulls, pirates, etc. Seems the organization is looking to take the Raider’s market. Marketing to the gritty consumer bases in the bay area and N. Cal in general as well as the wine and cheese crowd. For the past decade the Niners have been beating the Raiders on and off the field. Hopefully Mark does something about that.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Troll Master Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Troll Alert Clarification:
Refs didn’t want to piss of Raider nation today. Especially at home.
Palmer > knapp
If you think our coaches are the 3 stooges, you are not a troll.
Al Davis built this team and it is disgusting to see the new order not preserving his legacy. Trolls, no need to respond. It will fall on deaf ears.
Raiders will win most of their remaining games. Bucks concern me cuz they are physical and big off the bus.
Cable is a good o line coach. Eat that haters.
Code ‘Get Ova It, Baby’
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I see what u did there .. you’re very clever little fella .. now gtfo
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Good night again…see you early tomorrow.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Quit mcfd20… You’re just making yourself sound dumber by the post…been ringing the same bell since mcheese cut the talent on this team, hired his brother, da, Krappy and the rest of this lame staff…..zbs…buncha bs…
October 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Arm Chair GM, McFadden 20:
You two, as I pointed out to McFadden20 before, have mistaken loyalty for stupidity.
I wouldn’t spend my time worshiping a crummy team like the Raiders.
Now here comes the outrage and invectives: I don’t give a damn: you are simply stupid: no more no less.
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All you guys respond the same way for being called out for who you guy/s are… so good try
October 21st, 2012 at 10:09 pm
The Niners were dealt a major psychological blow when the NY Giants flew in and beat the holy crap out of them. What else would a fan of a second rate team have to say right now?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Weird how the 49ers have become a blue collar team that wins consistently. Sound familiar? And now you’re seeing 49ers apparel with skulls, pirates, etc. Seems the organization is looking to take the Raider’s market. Marketing to the gritty consumer bases in the bay area and N. Cal in general as well as the wine and cheese crowd. For the past decade the Niners have been beating the Raiders on and off the field. Hopefully Mark does something about that.
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HAHAAHHA , I was wondering how long you will take to talk about your whiners… good job
October 21st, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Knapp has NEVER been a successful OC anywhere, anytime. Nothing I’m are of has changed those facts. I’d really like to know why DA thinks Knapp deserved that position & the responsibility associated with it. The fact that Knapp was associated with a successful Texan’s team was certainly not enough. Knapp really has nothing to do with their success. Apparently DA doesn’t understand that Knapp’s failure reflects directly on him and could be enough to take DA down when Knapp eventually goes down.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
I stated this during the week but I really felt the Raiders might underestimate Jax.
They played Atl. to the wire and felt they should have won..so i thought they maybe thinking Jax. would be a cakewalk; as weird as a 1-4 team overlooking ANYBODY may sound.
I don’t know if that was the case today or not, but it almost looked like it.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Quit mcfd20… You’re just making yourself sound dumber by the post…been ringing the same bell since mcheese cut the talent on this team, hired his brother, da, Krappy and the rest of this lame staff…..zbs…buncha bs…
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2 persons show up at same time one is Pro AL and one is anti AL… hey i like how u guys set this thing up…
October 21st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Am I right, though, McFadden? Haven’t the 49ers successfully cornered a market once dominated by the Raiders? The blue collar, gritty consumer base in N. California?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Frkin blind…it takes Palmer calling his own plays to win….Krappy, da and the rest of this bs whiner/donkey disciple football is worth twice as many losses as wins….
October 21st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
I stated this during the week but I really felt the Raiders might underestimate Jax.
They played Atl. to the wire and felt they should have won..so i thought they maybe thinking Jax. would be a cakewalk; as weird as a 1-4 team overlooking ANYBODY may sound.
I don’t know if that was the case today or not, but it almost looked like it.
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I really thought they would steamroll the jags today but boy was i wrong, it was like they were all drunk the first 3 quarters and they finally sobered up in the 4th
October 21st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
And Sully, your coach is a high school rah rah type. He acted like he just won the Super Bowl when he barely got by the rookie led Seattle Seahawks. Great improvement from last year, huh Harblow lover?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
mcfadden20,
Stop with me already. You are a youngster. I doubt you have a wife or even a girlfriend.
Quit being stupid and embarrassing yourself.
Beat your chest all you want, but you are worshiping crummy losers and posted your handle to an over-the-hill RB who probably won’t be in the league in a few years.
I keep telling you, stop with me, you can’t win since you are smart enough, wise enough, and cannot type quickly.
You can go after the others, whom you call trolls, just leave me out.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
I stated this during the week but I really felt the Raiders might underestimate Jax.
They played Atl. to the wire and felt they should have won..so i thought they maybe thinking Jax. would be a cakewalk; as weird as a 1-4 team overlooking ANYBODY may sound.
I don’t know if that was the case today or not, but it almost looked like it.
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It did have that feel. Part of the reason I’m happy about the win. As ugly as it was, we NEVER GAVE UP. That’s a sign of a winner. Even if we’re losing right now, they showed me alot today. Forget it’s the Jags w/o some important starters. They say it every week on the TV – every game is hard to win in the NFL. I think that goes double when you’re down 20-6. Big win today, if we can follow it up, we’re not finished like everyone (including me) thought we were
October 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Bob Marley, regarding offense, there are only a few players that will be here in a few years, anyway. Most of these guys not getting chummy with D.A. are mediocre players on the chopping block. So really, who cares if they’re not buying into Allen’s system? They’re not in the organization’s future plans anyway. They’re lucky they even have jobs.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Am I right, though, McFadden? Haven’t the 49ers successfully cornered a market once dominated by the Raiders? The blue collar, gritty consumer base in N. California?
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WHO?? NICE TRY to get a Raiders fan trying to talk about a stupid team that has not done sh1t besides a 10-12 year period in their history
October 21st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Bob Marley Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Question for the guys who have gone to games this year, do players interact with DA during the game? do they high five or get buttslapped or any of the usual coach-player stuff?.
I ask because watching the games on TV it seems like DA is always hanging around by himself, celebrating a play by himself with no one around him, seems like he farted or something.
I maybe wrong, I’m sure I missed some interaction but what do you get from the stands?.
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Looking back Bob, I can’t really recall any interactions other than what you described. I’ll pay special attention at the next home game and report back if I remember.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Go back to your Candlestick hole, Sullivan. Tell me how wonderful that ghetto parking lot is!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Beach, weren’t Raider fans critical of Allen not showing enough emotion after a game a few weeks ago? Now you’re mocking the 49ers’ coach for showing too much? You don’t see any hypocrisy there?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Beach, the Niners are only playing there a couple more years. Don’t you get it? They let that stadium and parking lot fall apart to get a new stadium.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Or tell your homosexual owner to turn the lights on for night games, huh?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
mcfadden20,
Stop with me already. You are a youngster. I doubt you have a wife or even a girlfriend.
Quit being stupid and embarrassing yourself.
Beat your chest all you want, but you are worshiping crummy losers and posted your handle to an over-the-hill RB who probably won’t be in the league in a few years.
I keep telling you, stop with me, you can’t win since you are smart enough, wise enough, and cannot type quickly.
You can go after the others, whom you call trolls, just leave me out.
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I’m not worshipping any1 , as you can see I’m critical of the Raiders as the next guy but i want trolls to go away from this site and leave us Raiders fans alone so we can have troll free chats.. get it? Now GTFO
October 21st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
The Niners were dealt a major psychological blow when the NY Giants flew in and beat the holy crap out of them. What else would a fan of a second rate team have to say right now?
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You’ve stated that the 49′ers are a second class team. How do you think the Raiders would fare against NYG ?
Ahem…….probably not too good. SF had an off game.
The Raiders would be detroyed and posters like you and McFadden20 would be crapping your pants for weeks.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
McFadden, don’t be silly. The Niners own the Raiders in every capacity of the business right now. Better team, getting a new stadium, and you’re seeing all of this apparel with skulls, pirates, etc. That doesn’t need explaining. It’s obvious the Niners are hoarding in on the Raiders’ market since the Raiders can’t get their first foot forward. Hopefully Mark’s changing that.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
How many games are you going to bend over for and pay 350 or more for a game, including preseason. I hope the 49ers and their fans go into bankruptcy. That would be fitting.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Beach, weren’t Raider fans critical of Allen not showing enough emotion after a game a few weeks ago? Now you’re mocking the 49ers’ coach for showing too much? You don’t see any hypocrisy there?
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Oh you’re so butt hurt over a simple statement of Whiners team coach.. i thought you were saying you’re a Raiders fan? hahahahaha
October 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Beach, the Niners let that stadium run down on purpose, to get a new stadium. That blackout was the best advertisement for a new stadium they could have ever asked for. I wouldn’t be surprised if York pulled the plug himself.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
mcfadden20.
You are a worshiper and not too bright at that. A worshiper is the worst thing; worse than a troll; at least a troll may have an independent mind.
Now GTFO of this blog, genius.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
I am too much a man to go to a 49er board. Why don’t you just disappear, you moronic fool?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Mcfd20….If it wasn’t so dmm stupid, it would be funny. Reggie sold mark/madden a con job…the guys ego is worse than hues….2 freakin guys of his have panned out (Burris and wheeler), that’s it….2-4….man it skucs…
October 21st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
The Niners were dealt a major psychological blow when the NY Giants flew in and beat the holy crap out of them. What else would a fan of a second rate team have to say right now?
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You’ve stated that the 49′ers are a second class team. How do you think the Raiders would fare against NYG ?
Ahem…….probably not too good. SF had an off game.
The Raiders would be detroyed and posters like you and McFadden20 would be crapping your pants for weeks.
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
McFadden, don’t be silly. The Niners own the Raiders in every capacity of the business right now. Better team, getting a new stadium, and you’re seeing all of this apparel with skulls, pirates, etc. That doesn’t need explaining. It’s obvious the Niners are hoarding in on the Raiders’ market since the Raiders can’t get their first foot forward. Hopefully Mark’s changing that.
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I’m glad you guys are not that sissy and can protect attacks against your favorite teams
October 21st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
49ers new stadium is in a wealthy area, and at about the closest location you could get to the epicenter of the 49er fan base. They will have no problem selling that stadium out week after week and turning lucrative profits at every concession.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RaidersOne, go jump off a bridge, loser!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
mcfadden20.
You are a worshiper and not too bright at that. A worshiper is the worst thing; worse than a troll; at least a troll may have an independent mind.
Now GTFO of this blog, genius.
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HAAHHAHA are u butt hurt troll?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
49ers new stadium is in a wealthy area, and at about the closest location you could get to the epicenter of the 49er fan base. They will have no problem selling that stadium out week after week and turning lucrative profits at every concession.
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Yes we know… they have everything , yet they can’t afford a blog for their fans so these sissy ass whiners fans don’t come here?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Beach,
Worshiper, don’t tell me what to do. You aren’t even as bright a McFadden. At least he has some heart.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Beach,
Worshiper, don’t tell me what to do. You aren’t even as bright a McFadden. At least he has some heart.
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Hey troll just get out
October 21st, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Face it, 49er stadium was a home run. In every capacity. At least from a business perspective. I personally don’t like how it will affect schools. Too much welfare for the rich. But speaking in terms of NFL team management, it was a grand slam. Now Mark needs to get something cracking on the other side of the bay. Coliseum City would be nice. Remember, the 49ers are closing in on the Raiders’ traditional consumer base. This 49er apparel you’re seeing with the skulls and pirates etc. is not happening in a vacuum. They’re eyeing the Raiders’ old market. They’re eyeing the hip hop culture, the street culture, a consumer base dominated by the Raiders in this region. Niners are honing in it. Big time.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
RaidersOne and Sullivan are probably romantically involved. Raider fans are not interested in hearing your dumb stories. Hope you get a QB to match the highest price ticket in the league in 2014! We see how good that # 1 pick in 2005 has done for you.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Face it, 49er stadium was a home run. In every capacity. At least from a business perspective. I personally don’t like how it will affect schools. Too much welfare for the rich. But speaking in terms of NFL team management, it was a grand slam. Now Mark needs to get something cracking on the other side of the bay. Coliseum City would be nice. Remember, the 49ers are closing in on the Raiders’ traditional consumer base. This 49er apparel you’re seeing with the skulls and pirates etc. is not happening in a vacuum. They’re eyeing the Raiders’ old market. They’re eyeing the hip hop culture, the street culture, a consumer base dominated by the Raiders in this region. Niners are honing in it. Big time.
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Now only if they could g3t a nice blow for you Whiner fans , so all you lame asses can stop coming here .. that would be the best thing the Niners orginization can ever do
October 21st, 2012 at 10:24 pm
This blog is open to the public.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Nice blog***
October 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
My views are typically right on cue with Jerry and Steve’s, anyway. I agree with the authors of this blog most of the time. This blog is open to the public. And I’m being asked to leave? lol. What gives you that right?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:24 pm
This blog is open to the public.
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but why won’t you spend that precious time in your teams blog?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The Raiders are selling out every game, even against Jacksonville. You see Raider fans in every stadium of the NFL where the Raiders play. 49er fans only exist in Northern California. York is not eyeing the Raiders market, genius.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
McFadden, don’t be silly. The Niners own the Raiders in every capacity of the business right now. Better team, getting a new stadium, and you’re seeing all of this apparel with skulls, pirates, etc. That doesn’t need explaining. It’s obvious the Niners are hoarding in on the Raiders’ market since the Raiders can’t get their first foot forward. Hopefully Mark’s changing that.
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Maybe that plays into some of the urgency on the part of the Raider fans to get things going…sooner than later.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
This isn’t your blog to disinvite anyone. you’re a guest here, just like me. Blog is open to the public.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I understand the Raiders won, but I feel like we lost.
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DJ,
You shouldn’t feel like that. I tuned into the game late in the 3rd quarter to find that DMAC was again, being vastly overused by Knapp (big head): Mafadden up the middle – 2 yds; pass to Mafadden dropped; Mcfadden on the edge stuffed for no gain.
One third of the through the 4th quarter, big head used Reece and also put in Goodson and mixed things up.
Not sure big head will ever learn to deviate from his scheme until DA fires his or forces him to do so. Mcfadden isn’t happing this season, and one doesn’t rest with failure.
But the Raiders battled back when CP got into the no-huddle and that’s a good sign. The re-vamped defense at least can now prevent blowouts.
Finally, the Jags are a team the Raiders have had problems with for the past 10 yrs. I knew this was going to be no cake walk. We are just lucky we knocked Maurice Drew out of the game, and the tide eventually swung with us.
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McFadden20:
If you think I am a troll and never say anything good about the Raiders, you are wrong again. Please read the post I sent to DJ Johnny and you will see I praised the Raiders today.
Lately I won’t begin watching Raiders games until they are at least mid-way through the 3 quarter, when the game has really jelled.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
My views are typically right on cue with Jerry and Steve’s, anyway. I agree with the authors of this blog most of the time. This blog is open to the public. And I’m being asked to leave? lol. What gives you that right?
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If you want to be here , be my guest but stop playing this silly cat and mouse games… quit acting like you give a 2 cents about the Raiders… quit with all your bs alright?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Johnny, I believe Mark is getting things done. McKenzie inherited a team that lost 4 of 5 to end last year, and that hasn’t made the playoffs in a decade. He’s 2-4 so far. That sounds about right.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The Raiders are selling out every game, even against Jacksonville. You see Raider fans in every stadium of the NFL where the Raiders play. 49er fans only exist in Northern California. York is not eyeing the Raiders market, genius.
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Exactly
October 21st, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Johnny, I believe Mark is getting things done. McKenzie inherited a team that lost 4 of 5 to end last year, and that hasn’t made the playoffs in a decade. He’s 2-4 so far. That sounds about right.
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Explain to me again why you care so much about Raiders team? since when did Whiners fans start caring about Raiders team
October 21st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The Raiders are selling out every game, even against Jacksonville. You see Raider fans in every stadium of the NFL where the Raiders play. 49er fans only exist in Northern California. York is not eyeing the Raiders market, genius.
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Also, what does that say about the niners that they have to go and copy the skulls, pirates thing?
Losing sucks…no doubt. People like winners. The trend of more niner fans will continue until Raiders can start winning more themselves.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
McFadden, why not just contact the moderators if you have a problem with what anyone is talking about? We all get off topic here. Do you think the mods are just going to tell certain people to stay on the topic of the current blog entry, but let others slide? LIke I said, this blog is owned by IBA, and open to the public. They want me here. My web hits make their company money. So good luck. lol.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The Raiders are selling out every game, even against Jacksonville. You see Raider fans in every stadium of the NFL where the Raiders play. 49er fans only exist in Northern California. York is not eyeing the Raiders market, genius.
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There you go again: “The Raiders are selling out every game, even against Jacksonville.”
You are working on a false presumption that fans are dying to Raiders’ games and sell-out come automatically, in a natural manner: untrue.
The club had to have the time period for a sellout extended for 24 hrs. Even at that they probably bought at least 25% of the tickets themselves.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:31 pm
The Raiders are selling out games with the help of the 85% rule. As far as I know, the 49ers have opted out. They’re selling out games the old fashioned way, without help. Kind of like how Gruden and Gannon used to over here.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
How about “REGGIES GUYS??” GOODSON, BURRIS, WHEELER (Captain) STREATER, HANSEN
Give the man some Cap money and draft picks and lets see what he does.
I know there is some smartazz that is gonna say what about Bergstrom?? Well what about him ? still learning and that pick was virutually a 4th round pick. Supplement 95 last pick of third round.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
McFadden, why not just contact the moderators if you have a problem with what anyone is talking about? We all get off topic here. Do you think the mods are just going to tell certain people to stay on the topic of the current blog entry, but let others slide? LIke I said, this blog is owned by IBA, and open to the public. They want me here. My web hits make their company money. So good luck. lol.
– I don’t care but i will make sure all your trolling efforts go to vain… good luck man .. good tries today.. must hurt u really bad that we won today.. don’t worry you might get a chance next week
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Mcfadden20, I usually pay no attention to these trolls. I have just had enough of their big mouthed attitude about an average franchise. The Raiders owned the Bay Area before any 49er fan knew what pro football was all about. The Raiders have a passionate and rich tradition that made the NFL what it is today. The 49ers had Eddie D. and Joe Montana and won, yes. But, that is a very vanilla NFL franchise
October 21st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I’m glad the Raiders won today. Imagine what the McKenzie haters would be saying if we hadn’t. Reggie is 2-4 now and considering he inherited a team that tanked at the end of last year and hasn’t made the playoffs in a decade, we could easily be 0-6. Raiders’ new management is about right on schedule. Like the organization they’re heading in. And it’s a must for the franchise. Niners are honing in on their market.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
How about “REGGIES GUYS??” GOODSON, BURRIS, WHEELER (Captain) STREATER, HANSEN
Give the man some Cap money and draft picks and lets see what he does.
I know there is some smartazz that is gonna say what about Bergstrom?? Well what about him ? still learning and that pick was virutually a 4th round pick. Supplement 95 last pick of third round.
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Good post ! Also the Raiders’ main weakness now is Big Head (Knapp) and his ruination of the offense with his so-called scheme?
Can you imagine what we could do with offense hitting on all cylinders?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:31 pm
The Raiders are selling out games with the help of the 85% rule. As far as I know, the 49ers have opted out. They’re selling out games the old fashioned way, without help. Kind of like how Gruden and Gannon used to over here.
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What old fashioned way? most of the whiners fans are just bandwagon.. and they just like the WHiners because they are associated with a nice city San francisco , that’s all there to it .. not many people really give a eff about the team.. i know some whiners fans.. who don’t know more than 5 players on the team
October 21st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
that nobody pays attention to when they are not winning.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
McFadden, why try to be so authoritative on a blog you have no control over? It’s sad.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Mcfadden20, I usually pay no attention to these trolls. I have just had enough of their big mouthed attitude about an average franchise. The Raiders owned the Bay Area before any 49er fan knew what pro football was all about. The Raiders have a passionate and rich tradition that made the NFL what it is today. The 49ers had Eddie D. and Joe Montana and won, yes. But, that is a very vanilla NFL franchise
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Niners were successful for this small 8-12 year window .. rest of their history was crap .. even with playing in a division that featured the worst teams every year
October 21st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Many people say Raider fans are only Raider fans for the thug culture, too, McFadden. That’s an unfair accusation as well. Most Raider and Niner fans go back generations.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I do not know one Raider fan that wants to associate with the 49ers. Maybe that’s why the 49ers are moving to Santa Clara. They are like the SF Giants that are afraid the East Bay team will get the South Bay attention.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
McFadden, why try to be so authoritative on a blog you have no control over? It’s sad.
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hey why you care what i do .. just keep trolling baby.. keep doing what you do best.. hahaha
October 21st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
It’s business, Beach. Face it, the Niners were planning for the future while Al was living in the past. We have a lot of ground to make up.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Many people say Raider fans are only Raider fans for the thug culture, too, McFadden. That’s an unfair accusation as well. Most Raider and Niner fans go back generations.
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Well there are those kinda fans in every team.. but i can say Whiners fans are the worst.. all these gang bangers who represent this stupid red color are all Whiners fans because they have red team colors.. now would they be WHiners fans if the team had purple colors.. i doubt that
October 21st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
49ers new stadium is in a wealthy area, and at about the closest location you could get to the epicenter of the 49er fan base. They will have no problem selling that stadium out week after week and turning lucrative profits at every concession.
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Dude, seriously and honestly. So what. Most teams have new stadiums and a wealthy fan base and sell out all their games. We are the Raiders. We love them for who they are. Not who their not. We roll with Mr Davis thru the high and roll with Mr Davis thru the low. It is the core of a true Raider fan. Unique to the task.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
It’s business, Beach. Face it, the Niners were planning for the future while Al was living in the past. We have a lot of ground to make up.
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Who cares what the f8ck Al Did , we enjoy our history , we will enjoy our win today, we know we got a bright future… while you Whiners fans can hope we keep losing
October 21st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
I don’t know. It seems most Raider fans are relieved the team is under new management. This is not to say they wished death on Al, but nonetheless, are glad the team is under different management.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Al has great history behind him, but when it comes to modern day team management, he was about as bad as you could get. He wasn’t even bad. He was outright dysfunctional.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I definitely enjoy the win today. I’m a huge supporter of new management. Clearly winning helps more than it hurts.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
I don’t know. It seems most Raider fans are relieved the team is under new management. This is not to say they wished death on Al, but nonetheless, are glad the team is under different management.
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Why you care , we may be relieved or not.. this happened a year ago .. why u keep bringing up Al Davis every single day …
October 21st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
There is ground to make up, yes. Why are you interested in what Raider fans talk about? I could have come on the 49er blog after the Giants destroyed the “experts” # 1 pick of this season. They always are wrong, like Philly being the favorite before last season. What is your fascination with this blog?
October 21st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Al has great history behind him, but when it comes to modern day team management, he was about as bad as you could get. He wasn’t even bad. He was outright dysfunctional.
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even with his 1970’s style we still only finished with # 1 pick once.. while the Whiners with their modern franchise finished # 1 so many times
October 21st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
If this is accurate then maybe there is ope for the removal of Knapp as OC.
http://raidersnewsflash.wordpress.com/
Don’t know why it would take DA to realize that his Offensive Coordinator wasn’t getting it done.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:46 pm
McFadden, someone else said something about “Riding with Al, win or lose”, something like that. I was responding to them. They brought Al up.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:46 pm
McFadden, someone else said something about “Riding with Al, win or lose”, something like that. I was responding to them. They brought Al up.
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Yeah, we all know who that guy really is and we all your fascination with Al.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Big win today for the Silver and Black! Good night to all, even if you are not Oakland Raiders fans.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I don’t see a head coach who inherited a team that lost 4 of its last 5 games a season ago, and that hasn’t had a winning season since 2002, firing his OC after starting 2-4. 2-4 sounds about right, considering what this staff inherited.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I don’t see a head coach who inherited a team that lost 4 of its last 5 games a season ago, and that hasn’t had a winning season since 2002, firing his OC after starting 2-4. 2-4 sounds about right, considering what this staff inherited.
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yeah we get your point… go to sleep now=
October 21st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
The Raiders looked like sh*t as usual. D.A. is in way over his head and Reggie is an idiot!!!!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Mcfadden20, I usually pay no attention to these trolls. I have just had enough of their big mouthed attitude about an average franchise. The Raiders owned the Bay Area before any 49er fan knew what pro football was all about. The Raiders have a passionate and rich tradition that made the NFL what it is today. The 49ers had Eddie D. and Joe Montana and won, yes. But, that is a very vanilla NFL franchise
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Beach,
Now you are really showing your expertise and intelligence (not). Walsh, Seifert, Bartolo, Montana, Young, with 5 Superbowl rings, 2nd only to the Steelers, having 6.
Brilliant Beach, pure brilliance: “The 49ers had Eddie D. and Joe Montana and won, yes. But, that is a very vanilla NFL franchise.”
The 49′ers under Walsh were a revolution in the NFL, with the WCO, which is what big head (Knappy) is trying now to install in the Raiders, 25 yrs after it was invented.
The Raiders were great especially in their middle yrs until AD developed a diseased mind, displaying psycho-ego manical tendencies, first demonstrated with his dispute and benching of Marcus Allen.
AD would fire or bench any staff member or player who gained more attention than he, and sacrificed several Superbowls doing so. The second example of that is the firing of Gruden.
C’mon on man, show me you have a brain, so far you are just a pitiful worshiper who will take anything fed you.
In the last yrs of course, AD was mentally incompetent, and not fit to manage a boy scout troop let alone an NFL team.
The proof is in the pudding my friend.
Btw, do not try ever to go toe to toe with me; you just will never prevail.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Big win today for the Silver and Black! Good night to all, even if you are not Oakland Raiders fans.
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That’s a one classy Raiders fan.. good night
October 21st, 2012 at 10:50 pm
WEEK 7 = BABOON QB 0-4 lmao!!!….that’s 10-16 forthe season….yep if you want to lose 60% of the time get that baboon QB!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:50 pm
JB #459
Awesome article link. Is #55 pissing on Brinkley? That is too fckn funny.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
beach Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Mcfadden20, I usually pay no attention to these trolls. I have just had enough of their big mouthed attitude about an average franchise. The Raiders owned the Bay Area before any 49er fan knew what pro football was all about. The Raiders have a passionate and rich tradition that made the NFL what it is today. The 49ers had Eddie D. and Joe Montana and won, yes. But, that is a very vanilla NFL franchise
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Beach,
Now you are really showing your expertise and intelligence (not). Walsh, Seifert, Bartolo, Montana, Young, with 5 Superbowl rings, 2nd only to the Steelers, having 6.
Brilliant Beach, pure brilliance: “The 49ers had Eddie D. and Joe Montana and won, yes. But, that is a very vanilla NFL franchise.”
The 49′ers under Walsh were a revolution in the NFL, with the WCO, which is what big head (Knappy) is trying now to install in the Raiders, 25 yrs after it was invented.
The Raiders were great especially in their middle yrs until AD developed a diseased mind, displaying psycho-ego manical tendencies, first demonstrated with his dispute and benching of Marcus Allen.
AD would fire or bench any staff member or player who gained more attention than he, and sacrificed several Superbowls doing so. The second example of that is the firing of Gruden.
C’mon on man, show me you have a brain, so far you are just a pitiful worshiper who will take anything fed you.
In the last yrs of course, AD was mentally incompetent, and not fit to manage a boy scout troop let alone an NFL team.
The proof is in the pudding my friend.
Btw, do not try ever to go toe to toe with me; you just will never prevail.
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Yeah with that statement you really prove how big of a Raiders fan you are lol … what a pos lol.. control ur drugs
October 21st, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Like McKenzie’s progress. Considering what he inherited, things could be worse.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Like McKenzie’s progress. Considering what he inherited, things could be worse.
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Yup, we will always be better than the Whiners .. you are right.. lemme hear you say f8kk the Whiners again
October 21st, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Easy.
f8kk the Whiners!
October 21st, 2012 at 10:55 pm
http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/ === keep tabs on your epidemic of NFL baboon criminals.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Just pointing out that from a business standpoint, they have all but blown the Raiders out of the water. And it’s because they were planning for the future while Al was living in the past.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:56 pm
You’re bunker attitude toward the RAiders is counter-productive. You’re probably the same way with politics.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
mcfadden20,
Listen lil boy, go to your momma for a glass of warm milk. I told you before I was a Raiders fan before you were born.
Only a mental defect would disparage the great legacy of the 49′ers under Montana and Walsh.
I can’t even class you as a worshipper any longer. You are just outright stupid.
October 21st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Hopefully you’re either a police officer or enlisted in the military, McFadden. If not, you’re missing your calling. All this loyalty…to an NFL team? A business, for profit, in which you receive no share of profits?
October 21st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I am sure Reggie has analyzed the 49′ers inside and out, benefited from their strengths and weaknesses.
I have to say, Reggies dough-headed insistence on keeping big head in his position is mysterious and remarkable – but in a bad way.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Goodnight, everyone.
BTW, some notorious McKenzie haters in here were notably absent since the end of the game. Too bad they didn’t get the loss they were hoping for. Some fans. Later.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Hopefully you’re either a police officer or enlisted in the military, McFadden. If not, you’re missing your calling. All this loyalty…to an NFL team? A business, for profit, in which you receive no share of profits?
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All this loyalty?? lol yet you seem to be the only one who expand more energy on this blog than anybody else with ur cross trolling and all these other games you play.. can i ask you for what?
October 21st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Mcfadden20,
If you developed a thesis based on fact maybe I could give you some standing. But all you can do is lash out at others who don’t share your opinion and recognise greatness for greatness.
C’mon man, get serious, you have to do betters.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I am sure Reggie has analyzed the 49′ers inside and out, benefited from their strengths and weaknesses.
I have to say, Reggies dough-headed insistence on keeping big head in his position is mysterious and remarkable – but in a bad way.
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Oh yeah, Reggie came from a franchise that was picking # 1 year after year and haven’t won a superbowl recently , that he has to look into whiners to model his team after, you are so correct
October 21st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Mcfadden20, cut, paste, and read. Hopefully you will learn something. It’s an interesting article.
http://raidersnewsflash.wordpress.com/
October 21st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Mcfadden20,
If you developed a thesis based on fact maybe I could give you some standing. But all you can do is lash out at others who don’t share your opinion and recognise greatness for greatness.
C’mon man, get serious, you have to do betters.
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Who cares about other team , last time i checked this is a Raiders blog and you seem to care more about what we say about another team ,yet say all the negative things about the Raiders and yet you want us to believe how big time Raiders fan you are.. ROFLMFAO
October 21st, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Mcfadden20, cut, paste, and read. Hopefully you will learn something. It’s an interesting article.
http://raidersnewsflash.wordpress.com/
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Don;t really care and don’t got time for BS>.. GOOD NIGHT ,,, GOOD LUCK TO YOUR TROLLING
October 21st, 2012 at 11:05 pm
What has GB done recently? Lost last year and will lose this year. Of course he is looking toward GB, trying to figure out just what the hell went wrong.
Mainly they give up way too many running yds.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:07 pm
JB Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
If this is accurate then maybe there is ope for the removal of Knapp as OC.
http://raidersnewsflash.wordpress.com/
Don’t know why it would take DA to realize that his Offensive Coordinator wasn’t getting it done.
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Awesome and interesting link. I’m sure Purvisman will appreciate as much as I did.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:05 pm
What has GB done recently? Lost last year and will lose this year. Of course he is looking toward GB, trying to figure out just what the hell went wrong.
Mainly they give up way too many running yds.
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They have won a SB while Reggie was in that management , yet he will come to the Raiders and start modeling the 40 whiners franchise who just themselves started playing good for the first time in a decade
October 21st, 2012 at 11:09 pm
LMFAO
October 21st, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Mcfadden20,
Nighty, nite my child. And Btw, the reason I look toward other teams in regard to the Raiders is that there are only so many times one can re-hash all things Raiders.
It’s only been done about 5,000 times per week here.
One has to bring something new into the mix.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:10 pm
A win is a win, no doubt. Only problem is we didn’t actually win. The Jags lost it to us.
There is a difference. Celebrate the W, but don’t be foolish enough to celebrate the win.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:10 pm
McFadden20
Reggie was a scout for GB. He was not high up on the food chain. Let’s not make more of him than what he deserves. He hasn’t earned anything here yet.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Mcfadden20,
When one is in horrible trouble, he will analyze how another who was in horrible trouble extricated himself from the trouble, and use it as a model.
You are so close minded now you just can’t grasp the simplest of concepts.
If I am going broke, and I see another who is thriving, I analyze why I am going broke and he is thriving and I apply the principles the other is using in my own sphere.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Mcfadden20,
Nighty, nite my child. And Btw, the reason I look toward other teams in regard to the Raiders is that there are only so many times one can re-hash all things Raiders.
It’s only been done about 5,000 times per week here.
One has to bring something new into the mix.
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Oh thanks for your community service for bringing us some new fresh subjects to talk about , where would we go without ur fresh insight.. thanks again troll.. good night
October 21st, 2012 at 11:14 pm
I should also mention that Reggie IS an Ex-Raider and that does or should count for something.
If nothing else, he should know a bad linebacker when he sees one. Now, let’s see if he does anything about that deficient part of our organization.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:15 pm
reggie was a scout? lol, you dont have to make stuff up. He was a bit higher up than a cadillac-traveling “scout.”
October 21st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Exchanging barbs with an idiot like Mcfadden20 is like going to the playground and stealing a little kids bike. They point and cry. Tell you to get out of here. Cry about how you aren’t wanted. Yet they just meekly watch as you ride away on their bike.
I’m going for a bike ride.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:10 pm
A win is a win, no doubt. Only problem is we didn’t actually win. The Jags lost it to us.
There is a difference. Celebrate the W, but don’t be foolish enough to celebrate the win.
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Wrong again. CP won the game for us by rejecting Big Head and his idiotic scheme. CP has some big stones. I am not a big fan of Palmer but he is winning me over.
This is especially so since our O line sucks this year, and CP is taking a beating.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Mcfadden20,
When one is in horrible trouble, he will analyze how another who was in horrible trouble extricated himself from the trouble, and use it as a model.
You are so close minded now you just can’t grasp the simplest of concepts.
If I am going broke, and I see another who is thriving, I analyze why I am going broke and he is thriving and I apply the principles the other is using in my own sphere.
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HAHAHAHA,, yeah makes total sense… RAIDERS were exactly the team like the NINERS were .. great on D and bad on O .. before the WHiners hired Harbaugh.. and that’s what Reggie did .. goood try
October 21st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
alex7 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:15 pm
reggie was a scout? lol, you dont have to make stuff up. He was a bit higher up than a cadillac-traveling “scout.”
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Wow when you start losing an arguement , start posting from ur other ID’s… yeah that will def back up what u said hahaha
October 21st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Exchanging barbs with an idiot like Mcfadden20 is like going to the playground and stealing a little kids bike. They point and cry. Tell you to get out of here. Cry about how you aren’t wanted. Yet they just meekly watch as you ride away on their bike.
I’m going for a bike ride.
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Yeah, I know. The kid hasn’t suffered enough beat downs in life to respect what his elders are trying to say to him.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:20 pm
alex7 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:15 pm
reggie was a scout? lol, you dont have to make stuff up. He was a bit higher up than a cadillac-traveling “scout.”
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I’m not sure of his official title but he evaluated talent for GB. To me that is a scout of sorts. If he was a little higher, so be it. I don’t believe he can be directly tied to GB’s SB success.
Putting that aside, it’s not what he was, it is all about what he is now and what is he doing for us now. The jury is still out on that one.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Plus he has a hard time grasping subtle concepts and can only scream at “trolls.”
October 21st, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Good night troll slash S
October 21st, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Exchanging barbs with an idiot like Mcfadden20 is like going to the playground and stealing a little kids bike. They point and cry. Tell you to get out of here. Cry about how you aren’t wanted. Yet they just meekly watch as you ride away on their bike.
I’m going for a bike ride.
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Yeah, I know. The kid hasn’t suffered enough beat downs in life to respect what his elders are trying to say to him.
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what a pathetic pos reply … you could do better than that troll
October 21st, 2012 at 11:24 pm
mcfadden20;
HAHAHAHA,, yeah makes total sense… RAIDERS were exactly the team like the NINERS were .. great on D and bad on O .. before the WHiners hired Harbaugh.. and that’s what Reggie did .. goood try
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Not sure what you are trying to say because you don’t develop your ideas to the point that they have meaning.
I know one thing, if AD hadn’t been such a raving, incompetent maniac, Harbaugh would be our HC now.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:24 pm
mcfadden20;
HAHAHAHA,, yeah makes total sense… RAIDERS were exactly the team like the NINERS were .. great on D and bad on O .. before the WHiners hired Harbaugh.. and that’s what Reggie did .. goood try
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Not sure what you are trying to say because you don’t develop your ideas to the point that they have meaning.
I know one thing, if AD hadn’t been such a raving, incompetent maniac, Harbaugh would be our HC now.
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Doesn’t matter … Harbaugh is just aight… nothing special about him .. inherited a good D and just asked his O to play smash mouth football and don’t turn the ball over ..
October 21st, 2012 at 11:28 pm
mcfadden20,
Doesn’t matter … Harbaugh is just aight… nothing special about him .. inherited a good D and just asked his O to play smash mouth football and don’t turn the ball over ..
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If Reggie and DA had just enhanced our O, instead of fixing what was not really broken, and instead concentrated on our defense, we would be 4 and 2, instead of visa-versa.
October 21st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RaidersOne Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 11:28 pm
mcfadden20,
Doesn’t matter … Harbaugh is just aight… nothing special about him .. inherited a good D and just asked his O to play smash mouth football and don’t turn the ball over ..
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If Reggie and DA had just enhanced our O, instead of fixing what was not really broken, and instead concentrated on our defense, we would be 4 and 2, instead of visa-versa.
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How exactly would they do that? ask Hue to step down from coaching stand point? ask him to take a OC job and tell him we’re moving in a new direction
October 21st, 2012 at 11:37 pm
GOOD NIGHT TROLLS
October 21st, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Well we actually look like we have a chance to win two in row since last Nov. Kansass looks like their imploding the last few weeks…
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 am
Palmer said offensive coordinator Greg Knapp tore into the offensive players, as well. “Coach Knapp was not happy at halftime, so to speak,” Palmer said. “We had a great game plan coming in and we weren’t executing those (as) individuals. It starts with me being the quarterback. You got to execute and you got to execute the game plan. “Coach Knapp let us have it, and we took it as almost a threat. He was all over us and sometimes you need that from your coach. He picked the right time. He doesn’t always do that but he picked the right time and let us have it and we came together and found ways to move the ball and found ways to score in the second half.”
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Stop trying to sugar coat it, CP, Knap is a crappy O.C. Knapp is crap! Everybody knows that fact. Just be forthright:
Carson Palmer said, “Knapp kept calling run, run, pass. But we couldn’t run because coaches zbs is archaic, a fossil; a scheme that only functions to facilitate the opposing team’s defense by nullifying the power our o-linemen. I finally decided to take matters in my own hands, and started calling the game from the QB position. After all, I knew that I am the one who is going to “own up” for the loss (if we lost) at the end of the game. I didn’t want to have to lie, again. First of all, it took forever for him to decide what play to call. When he called the plays in the first half, I just thought ‘Hell no, not another run!! That ain’t gonna work! They have stuffed almost every attempt!” I decided to call the game myself in the second half! At the end of the game, I actually lobbied coach A, to go for it on 4th down. I said, ‘Rookie (HC), 3 points loses this game!’ Coach Allen, gave me the green light. The rest is second place! Ha ha.”
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 am
Carson Palmer is yet to do anything here which would prove he’s better than he was in Cincy.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 am
Raiders have a GM
13 Scouts
A head coach
20 other coaches
A roster of 53 players
yet it’s all Knapp’s fault?
I thought this was a team game?
Some bloggers always try to find a scapegoat.
Last year it was Chuckie B
This year it’s Knapp.
Next year it will be someone else.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 am
Sometime ugly gal offer you pusi you take it
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 am
Morning nation, If I was to be honest. I would say I wasnt rooting for this team to win yesterday and im a live everyday, every hour. Will be buried in my black raiders jersey and a raiderfan since 1980. I came on this blog this morning just to see if anyone else felt the way I do. I said in the past , lets watch and let the chips fall where they may. So in the end the raiders can get back to dominating the league again. I just hope this sorry win but a win was for something. Not the 10 th pick in the draft. when we need a Qb and linebackers and corners for this system. I said in the past carson is perfect for the old way raiders but the zone blocking and roll out have to make a decison quick. Thats not carson game, I didnt wanna rain on carson after good numbers but the truth is the truth. He got darius heyward bey almost killed with the late ball and hesitation he s doing most of the time. Just watch guy carson not make quick decisions and also the change in scheme has effected our up and coming was dominating Veldeer. I truly believe we will have to draft or sign another LT C G . These guys arent zone guys. Veldeer isnt . Go raiders and Id rather be wrong than right with winning for late draft picks.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 am
Ugliest win…ever!
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Raiders not sheepish about taking ‘ugly’ win Just as the Raiders took no solace in an inspired effort in a 23-20 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, they aren’t the least bit worried about walking away from a 26-23 overtime victory against the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday. “There’s no … [...]
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 am
And then…my dumb @ss drops D. Thomas instead of Pierre Thomas!
BIGGEST EFF UP EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yahoo FFL App SUCKS!
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:26 am
When yesterday’s game was over I felt like I’d been run over and was as wornout as I’ve ever been watch a Raider game…. That was a tough one……again… Wasn’t any one player that stood out as a goat…that honor was shared ….and of course there was some play calling that was very questionable…. The Oline is still struggling and the DLine only got pressure in the 2nd half….lots of work left to do with the Raiders ….Don’t watch if your heart isn’t strong…could be harmful… Lol…
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 am
Ugly ?… That’s putting it mildly …..the yelling scared my dogs off again…
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 am
Fingers, I hear you…I walked out of Buffalo Wild Wings with like 2 minutes left in the 4th Q.
I gave up…as soon as I got home I checked the score and found out we won!
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:42 am
At least I didn’t drop him for some chump…I picked up Rashad Jennings!!
MJD is done for the season! Heard a bunch of smack on my FFL timeline though…
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:58 am
Awful ugly win, I feel worse about this game then the loss in Atlanta. In order to get better we need to play better and we did NOT play better against a vastly inferior team. They have 11 rookies in their starting line up. These no Experience rookies gave knapp and co. all they could handle. It’s time we realize that what we are doing isn’t working. Knapp has to go, and go hard.
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:02 am
I know Palmer is no mobile QB, and the ZBS is not for him…so because we brought in Knapp we’re supposed to get rid of Darren McFadden and Palmer because they don’t fit in our new scheme?
Eff that!! Get rid of Knapp!
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 am
Only time the offense has moved the ball this year is in the hurry-up offense with Carson calling plays!
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:31 am
I’ll be the 1st to admit, I’m a Raider fan…a die hard Raider Fan BUT….WE SUCK BALLS!!!!
Knapp and his new scheme needs go!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 am
My worry is that Knapp will get a couple of years to prove that his scheme works, or not.
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 am
“I feel worse about this game then the loss in Atlanta”
from Raiderbuck.
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Sums up exactly how I feel.Don’t feel like celibrating the victory.In fact I’m down on the whole thing because the win has just papered over the cracks.I’d be happy if we just quietly move on to the next game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:46 am
Neilb Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 am
“I feel worse about this game then the loss in Atlanta”
from Raiderbuck.
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Sums up exactly how I feel.Don’t feel like celibrating the victory.In fact I’m down on the whole thing because the win has just papered over the cracks.I’d be happy if we just quietly move on to the next game.
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I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 am
If Knapp gets a couple of years…I’m out!
Out like in, done with the Raiders out!
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:52 am
Neilb Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 am
“I feel worse about this game then the loss in Atlanta”
from Raiderbuck.
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Guilty like…I cheated on my wife with her cousin and we’re a happy family, guilty?
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:56 am
Not saying I did.
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:58 am
When yesterday’s game was over I felt like I’d been run over and was as wornout as I’ve ever been watch a Raider game….
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Me too, thakfully the Giants came out the box smoking so I didn’t have to agonize through that game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 am
Knapp is getting a couple of years Ray, why wouldn’t he?
We are averaging a FG less per game than last year.
A flipping FG, not like it is some fall off the cliff for our offense.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 am
Fire, I acknowledge your a SF Giant fan…(one of the teams I hate the most other then the Donks) coming from a Dodger Fan.
But answer me this question…wasn’t that the ugliest thing you’ve ever seen?
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 am
Peace out Raider Nation…I’m gonna continue this buzz on the golf course!!
I’ll drink a few for my sober friend O.G. Vegas Fire too!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:05 am
It was brutal, but I think the Denver game was massively worse wasn’t it?
Granted you have to consider the opponenet, I wouldn’t say I was happy, but got a win and now we need to go play better next week.
Simple as that.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 am
I’ll drink a few for my sober friend O.G. Vegas Fire too!!
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I’m drinking occasional on game days these days, just not too much. None of the other stuff though.
Had some of that firefly sweet tea vodka yesterday with an Arnold Palmer.
That ish was pretty damn good!!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:12 am
When yesterday’s game was over I felt like I’d been run over and was as wornout as I’ve ever been watch a Raider game….
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Me too, thakfully the Giants came out the box smoking so I didn’t have to agonize through that game.
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Me three. That was rough. I knew we could pull it out but not like that
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:16 am
I don’t care if it was ugly. Raiders won.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 am
Don’t worry ’bout it R8eray,enjoy the golf!
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:41 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
I don’t care if it was ugly. Raiders won.
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Exactly. Time to focus on the Chefs.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 am
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
Most of the starters return and those who left did it because we didn’t want them, so starting personnel and key players remain basically the same and any changes were made because of our coaching staff and GM decided so.
For example, we could have just re-signed Samson Satele and kept Wis at LG and Carlisle at RG instead of spending good money on RG Brisiel and shuffling interior positions.
Besides, a fully ready Carson Palmer this year is a big upgrade over what we had in 2011 with a serviceable Jason Campbell, an upgrade at the game’s most important position offsets any other personnel loss.
The 6th week mark is significant not only because that’s wehre we’re at, but because we lost our starting QB and best player (# 20) the rest of the way.
So, we sit at 2-4 after 6 games when we were 4-2 last year with the following averages:
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
That’s a huge downgrade, you can nitpick stats and try and spin it in many ways, but that’s the bottom line, we got worst.
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice, teaching, motivating (as opposed to throwing your players under the bus every week) and making your players better is also a huge part of coaching, it’s not just X’s and O’s and it’s not like our guys seem great at those either.
But…
We’re still in it, mistakes can be corrected if the coaches and the players rally around each other, Lord knows I’m pulling for DA and his staff, as well as the players.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:56 am
Bob is right.
This team sucks.
Just Win Baby.
October 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 am
Good post Bob.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 am
Not that the players are doing great, but that’s what practice is for, to get ready for sundays, if things are not working out in practice then try something else instead of suddenly expecting it to work on sundays, take the running game, I don’t recall a worst display in 25 years and it seems to keep getting worst, not better.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 am
Lamar Houston was a true beast out there yesterday. Dont see why he dosn’t do that all the time. He has the ability to be like that every game…hopefully it will start to happen for him…Huff had a good game also! Knapp is still a total liability
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 am
“Failure to execute comes from practice and Coaches run practice”
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Sorry, but I have to call bullsh!t on that one. Some players are just dumb and no matter how much they practice, they don’t ever get it. I offer the Shorts TD as an example. You don’t need to practice over and over to learn that you don’t let the receiver get 10 yards behind you.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RaidO Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Bob, this is very true;
This 2012 team looks in disarray, if Hue was coaching it, everyone would be blaming him for such a bad on-field product, the double standard here is beyond ridiculous.
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They killed Hue for winning and complained about the QB eventhough we were winning. But turn around and have eternal patience with this bunch, because they like them. We were 4-2 and you’d have thought we were 2-4. Hue even got us to 7-4 and they were more worried about suits and medi/pedi’s. Made you wonder what the agenda was.
I have my misgivings about this group but I will keep my focus on the field and leave the other stuff for the gossipers.
Like I said I hope like hell this defense is not a mirage because it looks very good. If it’s real they will win a lot sooner than anyone thinks.
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That’s a great point. They were hating on Hue when he was winning but this DA guy gets free pass with this crap?
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SOUNDS A LIL RACIST DONT YA THINK
>> everything is racist now. its a scapegoat for people to use when they can’t stack up. Hue jax, lets see, crap defense, 163 penalties 1000+ penalty yardage(both records)psychotic play calling(going for it on 4th down on their own 30 yard line, throwing it DEEP on 3rd and 1 in the Lion game late that lost OAK the game and season, the tirade after the SD choke job in week 17 where he threw his team under the bus and shifted blame. and of course the moronic,retarded carson palmer trade. horrible Trade IMO and Hue was a Moron for pushing for that and then brags about it. Hue was brazen for no reason, unprofessional and undisciplined as a HC. and just look at how the team played, it mirrored him. but HJ was a creative play caller and light years better than the cancer we know as Knapp. you hue band wagoners are on his nuts because he’s a black guy and thats cool, but don’t cry racism when you’re playing favorites because of it. move on people HUE doesn’t matter. he’s gone.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 am
The difference between 2011 and 2012 is coaching and scheming, plain and simple.
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With that theory, couldn’t it be the same for our opponents?
Denver certainly isn’t the same team, San Diego has a new DC, Miami has a new staff, Pitt changed OC’s, etc.
We can’t say we are different but everything else is the same.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 am
McFadden is stumbling and bumbling again.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 am
That Shorts TD looked like the defensive meltdowns from last year. Branch sucks in pass coverage.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 am
Houston had 8 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack, 2 QB hits, and a forced fumble.
Big-boy game from him, and I say finally.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 am
McFadden is stumbling and bumbling again
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Look at your boy Knapp, hes got that whole offense looking terrible!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 am
Texas.
It’s a general assesment, players f-up some plays for every team in every game.
Later folks, beat K.C. go Raiders!.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 am
HUBERT JACKSON HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY RUINED THE BENGALS. 666
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 am
McFadden is stumbling and bumbling again.
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
>> yeah he is, zone blocking isn’t working for him.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 am
Knapps, ZONE BULL S??? is screwing this whole offense up. He’s got to go!!!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 am
DMCs running style is fast and furious. he’s not “patient” doesn’t wait for his blocks. one cut and go, this system isn’t good for that style IMO.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 am
THE ZBS HAS RUINED THE HOUSTON TEXANS. 666
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 am
Chiefs are #8 in offense and #15 in defense. How are they so bad? I guess its the turnovers. This game is starting to scare me.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 am
We ran plenty of power plays as well, to no avail.
Our O-line is not blocking well, in any facet. Pass-protecting has nothing to do with the ZBS, and we are failing miserably at that as well.
How about Wiz letting that guy run right past him on our opening 3rd down play?
We need Satele back, Wiz back at LG and Carlisle at RG.
Carlisle from right to left is a downgrade for whatever reason, Briesel at RG is a downgrade, and Wiz is NOT a better C than Satele.
Throw in Willie Smith at RT over Barnes, and this O-line is a grease fire.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 am
SLAYER Says:
THE ZBS HAS RUINED THE HOUSTON TEXANS. 666
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LMAO exactly. I saw a play yesterday where Foster ran out wide to the right. Everything bottled up, he had nowhere to go. So he reverses course, runs back on a big arc to the left and gets a first down.
McFadden can’t seem to do that. He just continues to run into that big mess of bodies in front of him and eventually falls down for a loss of yardage.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:17 am
I am more concerned with D-Mac’s catching actually.
He is dropping a pass or two a game. That screen could have went for big yards yesterday, and Carson knew it.
But……clank
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:24 am
Good Morning Nation!!! Man, I thought we gave that game away yesterday!!! Glad we stayed for an exciting finish!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:25 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 am
Chiefs are #8 in offense and #15 in defense. How are they so bad? I guess its the turnovers. This game is starting to scare me.
>> maybe 8th in YARDS! they’re so bad because they’re offense SUCKS. and their defense isn’t too great either.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 am
Now everybody’s on texans bandwagon…Ravens were without Ray Lewis, there best corner in Webb, Ngata was hurtin, and Terrell Suggs is nowhere near wheres hes gonna be…and you guys swear the texans are going places…the packers exposed them…and if they represent the AFC in the superbowl…the texans will be blown to bits!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 am
Yes, that dropped pass by DMac was a head-shaking moment.
But how about that snag by Streater? Wow.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 am
the packers exposed them…and if they represent the AFC in the superbowl…the texans will be blown to bits!!!
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By that logic, no team could ever win the Super Bowl. Every team gets “exposed” at least once during the course of the season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 am
Knapp is getting a couple of years Ray, why wouldn’t he?
We are averaging a FG less per game than last year.
A flipping FG, not like it is some fall off the cliff for our offense.
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You must be watching another offense than I am.
This team can’t run the ball at all. The running game has indeed ‘fallen off the cliff’.
If you want to dispute whether Krapp is responsible for that – or whether it’s the players or execution or coaching or scheme or whatever – that’s fine.
But the run game has completely disappeared and offensive production is noticeably worse.
Please don’t try to tell me this sht doesn’t stink.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 am
Nice catch by Steater, but he should have caught that TD pass.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 am
We ran plenty of power plays as well, to no avail.
Our O-line is not blocking well, in any facet. Pass-protecting has nothing to do with the ZBS, and we are failing miserably at that as well.
How about Wiz letting that guy run right past him on our opening 3rd down play?
We need Satele back, Wiz back at LG and Carlisle at RG.
Carlisle from right to left is a downgrade for whatever reason, Briesel at RG is a downgrade, and Wiz is NOT a better C than Satele.
Throw in Willie Smith at RT over Barnes, and this O-line is a grease fire.
>. well its the same unit from last year that had no problem run blocking OR pass blocking. now they suck. they switch to a Zone and they are confused and now they want to go back and forth power to zone and they can’t block for either. what a mess
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 am
Texans ran for more yards than any other team in postseason history against the Ravens last year, on the road, with all those guys playing, and with TJ Yates at QB.
Their system works.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
How is it the same unit?
Wiz went from Guard to C, that’s a big change isn’t it?
New RT and new RG.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
AFC has no clear favorite, its wide open. NY Giants will repeat if they make the playoffs, nobody is close to them.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
offensive production is noticeably worse.
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Yes, it is noticeable off by a FG a game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
How is it the same unit?
Wiz went from Guard to C, that’s a big change isn’t it?
New RT and new RG.
>> right, the 21 mil RG was “suppose” to be an upgrade. didn’t we have Barnes last year? its the system, knapp sucks. the end
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
offensive production is noticeably worse.
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Yes, it is noticeable off by a FG a game.
>> but you’ll notice that last years offense could sustain more drives because they RAN the ball thus giving the D a chance to rest. shows how BAD last years Defense was. this years offense can’t sustain sh*t. Defense is playing about as well as possible with no consistent pass rush. run D has improved.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:39 am
Guys saying we shouldn’t celebrate a “win” that it was Jax who “lost it” to us but I don’t see where that’s true.
We played well enough to win. Our d forced the fumble in ot…that’s why they call those ‘take a ways’. D made a play..period, and offense did enough to score enough points to win.
I don’t see where JAX “gave it” to us.
You wanna say don’t celebrate cuz it’s “only Jax”? Ok..do what you want.
We’ve lost many, many games that we “should have won” and WE gave it away…so it’s nice to have one go our way for once.
It’s the NFL..NO game is a gimme anymore.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:40 am
Reggie is tanking the season for draft picks.
If Gabbert stays in the game this sorry excuse for a team loses to the Jags.
If MJD stays in the game the Jags blow them out at home.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:40 am
575.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 am
Texans ran for more yards than any other team in postseason history against the Ravens last year, on the road, with all those guys playing, and with TJ Yates at QB.
Their system works.
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Yeah, and I guess they won that game huh?
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:42 am
582.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:40 am
Reggie is tanking the season for draft picks.
If Gabbert stays in the game this sorry excuse for a team loses to the Jags.
If MJD stays in the game the Jags blow them out at home.
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That thought has crossed my mind also…believe it or not.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 am
this years offense can’t sustain sh*t.
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Doesn’t help that the Raiders started every single drive in their own territory until the game winning FG in OT. Jax started four drives in Raider territory and scored all four times.
The return game is a serious problem for this team.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:44 am
i dont understand why marcel reese isnt used more. he is a matchup nightmare for lbs. he makes big plays. we will find out alot about Knapps ego next week. if he scraps the hurry up in the 1st half then its clear he is putting his philosophy ahead of the teams success. Palmer will never last this year with this OL . To his credit, we won yesterday , win our next 2 and we are 4-4 and probably tied for 1st place.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
ddwight Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 am
Now everybody’s on texans bandwagon…Ravens were without Ray Lewis, there best corner in Webb, Ngata was hurtin, and Terrell Suggs is nowhere near wheres hes gonna be…and you guys swear the texans are going places…the packers exposed them…and if they represent the AFC in the superbowl…the texans will be blown to bits!!!
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The 76–77 SB winning Raiders got blown out 48-17 for their only loss that season. The next yr. when they got robbed at Denver in the AFC Champ game (Lytle fumble) they had lost 30-7 at home to Denver with Stabler throwing 7 int’s. Later that same season they got out to 24-0 AT Denver and won 24-14.
My point is, good teams can get blown out and then come back and beat that same team when given another shot at it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 am
We scored 20 2nd half points yesterday, something we NEVER DID last year.
Take out the OT FG, and 17 points WOULD STILL beat any 2nd half from last season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 am
Something that hasn’t really been touched on yet, but that I think deserves a lot more scrutiny is the series of events that occurred right before the very fortunate PI call on the Jags that enabled the Raids to tie the game.
WTF WAS TITS THINKING ?
Did he actually send out Jani to attempt a FG trailing by 7 with less than 4 mins to go in the game and only 1 timeout left ?
What happened to make him change his mind ?
Is there any way that taking the FG there could have been acceptable ?
The indecisiveness cost a timeout.
More worrisome to me is that Tits didn’t seem to realize that at that stage the Raids had to go TD and were in 4 down territory.
I’d love to hear what came over tit’s headset, or what was said by anyone that caused him to rethink the situation and change his mind.
I can actually live with burning a timeout to get a good call made there. I can’t accept that Tits appeared ready to kick a FG under those circumstances.
Tits has some explaining to do.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 am
didn’t we have Barnes last year?
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Barnes isn’t playing, in case you haven’t noticed.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 am
The one big WTF? moment in the 4th qtr yesterday…
I think it was Reece (correct me if I am wrong) that caught the pass from Palmer, then ran to the sidelines instead of just running up field (which would have gotten us the first down)…result, 3-4, missed opportunity, punt!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 am
when was the last time we won a game trailing by 14 in the 2nd half?
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 am
didn’t we have Barnes last year?
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Barnes isn’t playing, in case you haven’t noticed.
> nope didn’t notice, but i guess Barnes was what made the Oline so good last year. didn’t know that. what a difference maker.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
That was Moore, and a huge mental blunder.
We didn’t need to stop the clock in that situation as much as a first down, we could have just spiked it afterwards.
Bad, bad move that I thought might cost us the game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
Dude had an open field of grass when he caught it…man I was yelling and screaming at him!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:53 am
nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 am
when was the last time we won a game trailing by 14 in the 2nd half?
>> this team is resilient just not as talented defensively as even last years team. losing wimbley has hurt the D to on end. but this year they have less penalties, improved run defense and more discipline. Defense needs a pass rusher badly.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Yeah, kicking a FG at that point would have been a horrendous call, but at least he called a TO and got things corrected.
Next play we got the PI call and tied the game, so it worked out well.
If they would have never trotted on the FG unit, and instead just called a TO to get the right play in the biggest play of the game, nobody would have had an issue.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Palmer was the #5 fantasy qb for yesterday for what that’s worth.
He did a good job making some big plays. He makes some dumb mistakes as well, but too much concentration is directed at Palmer for Raiders problems.
He’s capable of being the guy to rack up W’s for us but no qb does it alone. You can argue Peyton Manning does, but even he needs capable guys who don’t drop easy TD tosses.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 am
it is mind boggling how bad our 1st offensive drive after halftime always seems to be.
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 am
We are #14 in Run D, and #9 in the league in opposing YPC
Slo-Mania!!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:58 am
I recall the Oline having lots of problems last year
Many posters were pissed off and wanted Satele gone and Wiz to move to center because we plowed roads and other nonsense.
This ballclub has sucked for a decade and we were lousy last year as well. All the “pros” had us finishing last this year and we semis could not believe it. We just knew they were wrong.
No more quick coach changes. The DA is gonna get a fair chance which means three years. He seems to be a real sharp coach which we have not had recently.
I look forward to the next few years
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 am
We scored 26 points yesterday.
Very nice 2nd half production from the TEAM.
Is the offense expected to put up 30 a game or something?
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Can’t believe people wanted to cut Goodson before the season.
That dude is a ST beast, and our KR in years.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 am
*best KR in years
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:03 am
Our Oline is a mess.
BUT ….
There are several plays where they actually do there job and the OTHER playmakers need to step up.
DMac slipping TWICE on nice run opportunities AND dropping that screen?
Palmer playing like crap in the first half?
DHB dropping a crucial pass?
Palmer having all day and WRs not getting open?
Yeah, the Oline gets beat, but not all the time, imo.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 am
We had 4 minutes left in the game and their offense hadn’t got a first down the entire half, lol.
FG wouldn’t have been that big of a deal.
My goodness, had DHB not drawn that flag, DA an Knapp would’ve been KILLED for going for it instead of taking the pts.
LMFAO
4th and 10 fade to DHB in the end zone????? We got lucky as phugg, lol.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:11 am
JHill, that was my initial reaction…yes, they didn’t have a first down all half…their points came off friggen turnovers! But, flashbacks of giving them their first “drive” of the second half came therough…I am glad he went for it! Yes, we got lucky, but…
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:12 am
587.DJ Johnny Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:45 am
ddwight Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 am
Now everybody’s on texans bandwagon…Ravens were without Ray Lewis, there best corner in Webb, Ngata was hurtin, and Terrell Suggs is nowhere near wheres hes gonna be…and you guys swear the texans are going places…the packers exposed them…and if they represent the AFC in the superbowl…the texans will be blown to bits!!!
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The 76–77 SB winning Raiders got blown out 48-17 for their only loss that season. The next yr. when they got robbed at Denver in the AFC Champ game (Lytle fumble) they had lost 30-7 at home to Denver with Stabler throwing 7 int’s. Later that same season they got out to 24-0 AT Denver and won 24-14.
My point is, good teams can get blown out and then come back and beat that same team when given another shot at it.
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I dont disagree with your reasoning…Im just basing my opinion based on how much stronger the NFC looks right now.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:13 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:13 am
Not saying it’s the right move or not, but if people are concerned that firing Knapp TODAY would send the wrong message to potential quality coaches and create negative repurcussions throughout the league and un-repairable damage for the new org. than rest easy.
The news of Knapp getting “replaced” by Saunders…even if it happened today…would barely scratch the ESPN bottom of the screen scroll bar and be quickly forgotten. Unless…the offense all of a sudden took off as a result. Then…the move would be seen as being genius on Raiders part later on.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:14 am
Nobody else has mentioned it but I still see 55 plugging the hole untill Burris pushed him out of the way and made that sack.
I am glad he had a good game though
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 am
JFB, are you being serious when you say that offensive production isn’t noticeably worse than last year ?
You don’t think that 3 pts (or as you say a ‘flipping FG’) a game is significant, huh ?
I can assure you that it is. The difference between winning and losing is often razor thin and even a 3 pt drop in scoring is HUGE.
In Marley’s excellent post – he says scoring is down by over 7 points a game (2011 compared to 2012 thru 6 gaames)
2011 Offense 25.6 ppg-Defense 25 ppg.
2012 Offense 18.8 ppg. -Defense 28.5 ppg.
Whether it’s 3 or 7, scoring is down. The run game is non-existent and has to be ranked close to dead last in the NFL. 3rd down conversion rate is horrific. Time of possssion is terrible.
Don’t see how you can say offensive production isn’t noticeably down with a straight face.
Then again, you were able to talk about Slo-mania without cracking up, so anything is possible.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Sanders has not done much his last few jobs.
I dont think he is that great and I dont know that he would want the job.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:17 am
Shoot. Carolina just canned their GM mid season. THAT is a bit of news, but an OC of a team that is obviously struggling on offense and which has castrated their top gamebreaker?
No big deal.
Other coaches understand this stuff happens.
Not that it’s gonna happen anytime soon. Just sayin’.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:20 am
Its not fair to compare this team to Hue. Hue had one year as OC in the Raiders as they were up and coming and improving under Toms steady hand. He had his chance and seemed to do well but things fell apart as the season went on.
Hue is long gone and is not coming back and he sucked anyway. This club will start clicking and surpass anything Hue ever did here
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:20 am
I am starting to see that some people on this blog get it.
Football games are won and lost on the line of scrimmage.
Yes runners need to run and QB’s need to pass and DB’s need to cover.
The game is about TIME AND SPACE. O lines CREATE it.
Dlines DESTROY it.We have not run the ball well on a GOOD DEFENSE IN A DECADE. STATS have gotten padded against weak or injured dlines. Yeterday is another example of how far we have to go.
By winning the battle on the line of scrimmage you increase the percentages of a play working or getting a defensive stop. There are no absolutes. NO SKILL PLAYER CAN OVERCOME THE FACT THAT THEY ARE LOSING ON THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE. (Tom Brady in the Super Bowl is a recent example).
Dennis Allen has a FOUR YEAR CONTRACT because we need time to rebuild.
We will build our lines through the draft and it will take time. There is no quick fix (Coaching changes, free agents, new schemes etc.) That was tried for the last ten years and FAILED MISERABLY.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Earlier on the blog about 4-5 weeks ago I was adamant about giving Gregg Knapp a chance and not evaluating him too early. I feel he has been given that chance. After a bye week and a fairly stabilized offensive line and QB’s and skill players remaining relatively healthy and even coming out of a bye week the offense is inept. The only time it works is when Palmer becomes the play caller in a no huddle offense.
The Jags are one of the worst run defense teams in the NFL. Gregg Knapp’s schemes and play calling made them look like the Ravens in their prime. The only reason Oakland won the game was because of the defense and no huddle offense and the fact that two of their best players were injured early. It is time for Knapp to be fired/demoted or he should be forced to go back to the old playbook and dust off the plays that worked last year. Also they should allow C. Palmer to run the no huddle more.
Add me to the fire list. Obviously this works for the Texans but last I checked we are not the Teaxans. They may also want to consider moving Wiz back to left Guard and getting all the best FA centers in for a tryout along with our backups. I think Cooper C. has lost a step and not even sure Brissell is as advertised. In other words they misjudged not only in playcalling and scheme but also in evaluating talent.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 am
Raider D is a bunch of junk. Nothing there at all and our defense minded head coach has this D playing pretty dam good, much better then I have seen since I dont know when.
He will fix the O as well. If Knapp is the problem the DA will dump him.
Isnt it normal that an offense head coach would have a better O then a D coach? and the other way around as well?
DA has worked miracles already and they will continue
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 am
huff has played well at cb the last 2 games
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 am
That was almost as unfulfilling as a preseason win.. that was the worst team in the league traveling across the country we just played.. and the refs gave us ot.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:35 am
We had 4 minutes left in the game and their offense hadn’t got a first down the entire half, lol.
FG wouldn’t have been that big of a deal.
My goodness, had DHB not drawn that flag, DA an Knapp would’ve been KILLED for going for it instead of taking the pts.
LMFAO
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Bullsheet.
Going for the FG there would have been dead wrong.
No one in his right mind would have criticized going for the TD there.
The criticism should be reserved for even considering the FG.
You take the FG there and you still need to score a TD.
With just one TO and the TMW left, at BEST you’re getting the ball back with maybe 2 mins to go and no time outs, still needing a TD to win.
One Jag first down – game effectively over.
Tits did the right thing going for the TD. What bothers me is that he didn’t know he was in 4 down territory before trotting out Jani and then rethinking the situation.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Yeah, Vegas is right… we’re running plenty of power runs last two weeks and DMC still can’t get it going. I think he’s shell shocked. O Line is also pretty terrible.
Where Vegas is wrong is the offensive output not being significantly worse than last year.
It’s truly awful. The only thing we can do is pass and then Knapp tries to keep rolling with play action with no threat of the run. Teams are loading up on DMC on 2nd downs because they KNOW what our genius OC is going to call.
Knapp’s system may not be the problem, but his play calling is GARBAGE.
I’ll repeat: GARBAGE.
Wrong play call for the circumstance, not utilizing his best players, too predictable, no run game.
CP is gonna throw 40+ times a game. This would be fine if our lead back was Danny Woodhead and we had a video game offense and were stacked up at O Line.
We’re not.
Knapp has taken the offense 3 steps back.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:40 am
Isnt it normal that an offense head coach would have a better O then a D coach? and the other way around as well?
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DA hired Knapp cause they were buddies.
What an epic fkup.
To put in perspective: last time Knapp was here, he was stripped of playcalling duties in favor of Tom Cable (and nearly doubled the offensive production)! And to put THAT in persepctive, when Hue got here, he nearly doubled Cable’s offensive production as playcaller and had the run game as the strength of the team.
Now it is the biggest liability.
Unbelievable.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
I heard the A’s traded pennington for a guy on the Dbacks, can’t recall his name…
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
Funny how, we don’t move in offense until Palmer goes no huddle…ummm, if that is not saying anything…
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Chris Young, CF.
Helluva trade, IMO. Not sure what that means for Coco, because Young is a better player, but not a leadoff guy.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:49 am
Nobody else has mentioned it but I still see 55 plugging the hole untill Burris pushed him out of the way and made that sack.
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Hey, we wanted a NT to absorb those blockers to free up the backers.
Now we got Slo to “absorb” the blockers to free up the better blitzer.
Slo-Mania!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Chargers in trouble for stickum?
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
If Eagles can fire their D Coordinator, Raiders can fire Knapp. Saunders and Palmer calling plays isn’t that bad an idea.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
618.Plunketthead Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 am
Raider D is a bunch of junk. Nothing there at all and our defense minded head coach has this D playing pretty dam good, much better then I have seen since I dont know when.
He will fix the O as well. If Knapp is the problem the DA will dump him.
Isnt it normal that an offense head coach would have a better O then a D coach? and the other way around as well?
DA has worked miracles already and they will continue
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I don’t know about miracles, but it’s nice to finally see 3 and outs created by this defense. It’s great to see a defense not get shredded by dink and dunks and gashed by the running game. The D has definitely stepped up. I credit Wheeler and Burris for the turn around. Huff has done a great job playing corner. I actually take back all the hating I’ve done on him throughout the year. I am hoping when AC and the corners come back this D will be legit. I hope Carter starts showing up too, been a no show 2 games in a row now.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Chris Young, CF.
Helluva trade, IMO. Not sure what that means for Coco, because Young is a better player, but not a leadoff guy.
That’s true…Coco is one of Beane’s faves, but we all know that don’t matter (except when he took hella long to get rid of Geren)!
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Wasn’t it Carter who gave them a first down without making a play?
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
I don’t know about miracles, but it’s nice to finally see 3 and outs created by this defense. It’s great to see a defense not get shredded by dink and dunks and gashed by the running game. The D has definitely stepped up. I credit Wheeler and Burris for the turn around. Huff has done a great job playing corner. I actually take back all the hating I’ve done on him throughout the year. I am hoping when AC and the corners come back this D will be legit. I hope Carter starts showing up too, been a no show 2 games in a row now.
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Yesterday, I kept imagining the Jags to convert 3rd and longs and see guys breaking tackles to get the first down. Then I remembered we have a new defense.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 am
Raider D is a bunch of junk. Nothing there at all and our defense minded head coach has this D playing pretty dam good, much better then I have seen since I dont know when.
He will fix the O as well. If Knapp is the problem the DA will dump him.
Isnt it normal that an offense head coach would have a better O then a D coach? and the other way around as well?
DA has worked miracles already and they will continue
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DA needs to transition away from GK ASAP. I mean as one said they are buddies but do I want to lose my job in a year or two because of my buddy? My hope would be that GK would be demoted and AS would be an interim offensive Coor. as I also said they need to think about getting Wiz out of center. He was close to a pro bowl Guard last year. Our guards are not playing well right now and Wiz is not that good of a center either. In the short term at least they should consider the no huddle more.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 am
Hey, we wanted a NT to absorb those blockers to free up the backers.
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He looked huge too when Burris was fighting him off.
I would like to see it again to know if I have made more of it then there was..
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:58 am
A win is a win…victory Moday…
Of note:
Average played below average in the first half.
Average played above average in the second half.
the average between the 2 halfs is average.
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:58 am
Burris is a surprise steal this year! One of Reggie’s draft picks that I can live with! Best move, Phillip Wheeler! We need to do it the D way, because we were hurting on D for so friggen long, its a nice change for once!
Now the O…enough said!
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
If Eagles can fire their D Coordinator, Raiders can fire Knapp. Saunders and Palmer calling plays isn’t that bad an idea.
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Not that I diagree with you however, Is it too early for the new ORG to have egg on face???
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
If Eagles can fire their D Coordinator, Raiders can fire Knapp. Saunders and Palmer calling plays isn’t that bad an idea
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The Eagles fired Castillo but didn’t change the defensive scheme. Who cares about firing Knapp if you truly believe the scheme is the problem? Even if they fire him they aren’t going to change the offense. It will be the same scheme. Maybe Al Saunders doesn’t want the OC job. He’s 70. Maybe he is content sitting up in the booth telling DA when to throw the red flags.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
I see no reason why Knapp should be fired.
We just had our best 2nd half in 20 games.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
You have to start the game in no-huddle if using zbs that way the o-line sets the tempo
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
Hey, we wanted a NT to absorb those blockers to free up the backers.
Now we got Slo to “absorb” the blockers to free up the better blitzer.
Slo-Mania!!!
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Leave it to you to find a use for the Mayor….
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
I see no reason why Knapp should be fired.
We just had our best 2nd half in 20 games.
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So are saying we can get to the tournament with Average, and knipp?
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 am
JDB, I will give you points for this one. You called out veldhair long before any of the Semi’s…
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
Fire Allen & knapp. Did you see how Allen was gonna kick a FG trailing by 7 in the 4th quarter and Palmer had to yell at him and changed his mind thus leadin to that PI penalty?! Allen sucks as a HC knapp sucks at probably everything he does.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
I see no reason why Knapp should be fired.
We just had our best 2nd half in 20 games.
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It was a good half but that was in spite of Knapp not because of him. Look how bad the line was in picking up stunts. That is coaching as well as execution. Palmer almost had his head taken off. The only time the run worked is when they were suprprised by it or doing out of no huddle. Maybe the circumstances do not allow for it now but hopefully by Jan 8th he will be fired. Of course if by some miracle his offense actually starts working I will gladly recant!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
So are saying we can get to the tournament with Average, and knipp?
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I want to just get to the end of the season “tourney” like last season, in all honesty.
And if that happens, it will be more so due to our D, not Titty Knapp time and the AVerage Street band.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 am
Lamarr Houston had one of his best games as a pro yesterday. Hell even TK and big Sey showed up, albeit a little late.
I truly believe the ‘rub it in their faces’ onside kick with a 14 lead was the turning point. Our guys collective said enough and would not be embarassed in their house like that. HOPEFULLY that mindsight can continue on through the rest of the year. It was nice to finally see that defense play with some pride in the second half.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
I see no reason why Knapp should be fired.
We just had our best 2nd half in 20 games.
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You. An thank the defense led by Burris & wheeler along with Palmer for that comeback.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 am
You can*^
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 am
Fire knapp..
Chargers could lose picks for using stickum.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 am
You called out veldhair long before any of the Semi’s…
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I think he is good, just not as good as some in here think/thought.
People were talking Pro Bowl with him, and I never watched him and thought I was watching a Pro Bowl LT.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 am
You. An thank the defense led by Burris & wheeler along with Average for that comeback.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 am
truly believe the ‘rub it in their faces’ onside kick with a 14 lead was the turning point.
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That was just the start of it, on that drive they then went for it on 4th down from midfield with their backup QB (who promptly threw it away in one of the biggest WTF moments I have seen).
That was the slap in the face the team needed. We outscored them 23-6 the rest of the game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 am
Gotta run…Victory Monday is great.
You guys enjoy the day.
1 NATION
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 am
I truly believe the ‘rub it in their faces’ onside kick with a 14 lead was the turning point. Our guys collective said enough and would not be embarassed in their house like that. HOPEFULLY that mindsight can continue on through the rest of the year. It was nice to finally see that defense play with some pride in the second half.
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I think it was them going for it on 4th & 1 at midfield on the drive following the onside kick where they woke up and realized they were being abused in their own house.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Either the O-line has turned to garbage, or the ZBS is a bad fit for the current players, or Knapp is just a pitiful coach. What is it?
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Veldheer is a sufficient LT, he flashes brilliance, like shutting out Jared Allen, but then he gets worked by marginal rushers. He seems very out of place in the ZBS, and his pass blocking has regressed I think. 2 weeks in a row he got Palmer smeared for a sack fumble (although this weeks was ruled an incomplete pass)
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Houston was our MVP yesterday, w/o a shadow of doubt.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
Willie Smith is garbage, Veldheer got worked, Carlisle is just past his prime, the O line stinks right now…a week left till the trading dead line, Reggie needs to make a move now for a new O lineman
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
It seemed like EVERY 3rd down, Veldheer was at least allowing pressure, if not a hit on Carson or forcing him to flush.
Granted LT is not at all an easy position, but he was a hot mess yesterday.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:14 am
Fire Allen , knapp, Hoffman & Oline coach.
Thank you
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 am
Obviously no one is getting fired now but, at th end of the year they need to go.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 am
I didn’t have as much a problem with the TO on the 3rd down defensively, as the broadcast booth did.
As long as a stop accompanies it afterwards, all is well.
It did, so it was.
It’s when you waste a TO, then still screw-up afterwards when it is an issue.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 am
Raiders o line needs to make a statement … now. In the NFL, teams are only as good as their o lines. Great o lines make great teams … above average o lines supported by great defenses make for great teams … I’d say the raiders have an above average defense with a below average o line … that’s a recipe for mediocrity, at best … the remainder of the season rests on the o line finding a way to man-up … maybe the o line just isn’t good enough or maybe they need to make a stand, man for man, and say they are tired of being abused and thus take the bull by the balls and turn things around … the season rests on it, that’s for sure
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
So will we see Cam or Derek Anderson when we play them later this year?
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
Things that were said about Chad Henne last week:
“If the coaches wanted to win they would make the change ”
“Gabbert is a practice player. That gets you nowhere. Ive seen Henne light it up in real games before.”
“i also dont think Henne will miss a wide open receiver either”
“Its time for Henne. I dont know how the coaches can watch this film and say Henne doesnt deserve a chance”
“Has Henne ever done that bad in a game?”
“Chad Hene is a young QB who could be very good ”
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lol
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 am
657.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Either the O-line has turned to garbage, or the ZBS is a bad fit for the current players, or Knapp is just a pitiful coach. What is it?
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I think it is a confluence of the 3.
Wiz and Veldheer have regressed from a strong 2011 campaign, Coop was on his last legs 3 years ago, he is struggling to hang on but should have been replaced awhile ago… not hating on Coop but I would rather see him coming off the bench due to injury that starting, Willie Smith is marginal at best, and Brisiel has underperformed (not to the extent that he gets hated on here) and has not adjusted well to his new linemates.
I said back in week 2 that we should have rolled with Parsons at C and moved Wiz back to guard. Parsons and Wiz are equal at Center, Wiz is a MUCH better guard though.
McFadden has to execute better too. He isn’t hitting the holes when they are there. McFelldown seems to have returned.
I am not a fan of Knapp’s any more than anyone else here. I didn’t like the hire. Hopefully after the season they can make the change, but we gotta roll with it now, and the players need to execute. Don’t tell me that McFadden is an elite back if he can’t run in the ZBS. If he was elite it wouldn’t matter WHAT scheme you called, he would find a way to get it done.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 am
Loved that Jax went with 3 straight passes (and incompletions) after our tying TD.
I don’t even know who their coach is or OC, but that guy hasn’t a clue WTF he is doing.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
It seemed like EVERY 3rd down, Veldheer was at least allowing pressure, if not a hit on Carson or forcing him to flush.
Granted LT is not at all an easy position, but he was a hot mess yesterday.
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Agreed JFB, seems the o-line as a whole has regressed. Wish we would have kept what worked in place. You would think the coaches would look at tape from the previous season to see what we did well! Also i don’t see how DA can ignore the fact our two wins came from Carson running the no huddle!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
Beeeeeeeen saying it for awhile…if this damn coaching staff doesn’t figure out why the O-Line doesn’t seem to be able to pick up a stunt or a free rushing blitzer we have NO CHANCE! Figure that S*** out.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
We need a center.. with wiz at lg and barnes back at rt we should be able to run.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
To Henne’s credit though, he didn’t get any reps. I was worried when he came in. Flashbacks of Davon Bess picking wheezy mcfadden apart a few years ago. Our Dline got to him early an often. Nice to see them step up
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 am
The Jags head coach was Atlanta ex-OC, the guy who could do nothing when it counted with Ryan, white, Gonzalez, turner the past few years.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 am
As bad as our O looked in the first half, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a pathetic offense ever as the one I saw the Jags trot out there..that is by miles the worst offense in the league maybe in decades.
I was kinda surprised too, when I saw Henne coming in I got nightmare flashbacks of the dolphins game a few years ago when he shredded us in Miami. Instead he looked like Kyle Boller against the Chiefs last year.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
So does Huff stay at corner when spencer comes back? Huff/ spencer or lee/ spencer or huff/ lee? Adams is a back up plain and simple.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 am
IS Atlanta’s ex-OC… For the grammar nazi’s.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Marks hair Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
We need a center.. with wiz at lg and barnes back at rt we should be able to run.
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Seems like Wiz was much better at guard, maybe we should put Parsons back at center
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
I hate typing on my iPhone. M fingers are too fukking big!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:33 am
Seems like Wiz was much better at guard, maybe we should put Parsons back at center
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Wiz was awesome at LG, more evidence the OL coach, knapp and Allen need to walk the plank at the end of the season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
Fellas! Wooo! That was cardiac. We barely edged one of the worst teams at home without their best player (mojo) and their starting QB.
Why was it so close?
1) Red zone woes continue
2) Can’t run the ball
3) Turnovers keep dragging this team down
Why we won:
1) Defense
2) Defense
3) Defense
All right!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
679.Carl Weathers Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
I hate typing on my iPhone. M fingers are too fukking big!!
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You’re not using that big plaster hand you had in Happy Gilmore are you?
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
I wasnt impressed with parsons.. need a trade. But thats unlikely.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
679.Carl Weathers Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
I hate typing on my iPhone. M fingers are too fukking big!!
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You’re not using that big plaster hand you had in Happy Gilmore are you?
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lmao !!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 am
Loved that Jax went with 3 straight passes (and incompletions) after our tying TD.
I don’t even know who their coach is or OC, but that guy hasn’t a clue WTF he is doing.
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Bob Bratkowski, He was the Falcons QB coach last year, and he was Palmer’s OC with the Bengals.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 am
Bratkowski’s offense generally suffered from being too predictable, and this led to his poor reputation amongst the fans of the team.
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That sounds familiar.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 am
Marks hair Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
I wasnt impressed with parsons.. need a trade. But thats unlikely.
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I hear ya, the warchest is a little bare right now though
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 am
I switched to a Galaxy 3 recently the big screen is great for my fingers
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
I still don’t know what to feel today. I’m numb.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:42 am
I don’t like Reggie’s pick to lead this team although I do think he has an eye for talent. Wiz will be playing guard against next year and reg will draft a center.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
the zbs makes the oline passive….they are getting whipped..,.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
I’m fine with the win. They got the sloppy home game out of the way. They will probably be much sharper against KC on the road.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Put Goethel in at center.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
679.Carl Weathers Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
I hate typing on my iPhone. M fingers are too fukking big!!
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You’re not using that big plaster hand you had in Happy Gilmore are you?
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lmao !!!
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Hahaha, two of ‘em!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 am
I really was hoping the Raiders would build on the Atlanta game, but our oline stunk it up yesterday. Carson was getting heat 80% of the time. DMAC looks tentative and frustrated. Once again the only time the O shows life is when Palmer is running the no huddle!
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 am
I bet we lose at KC next week. I hope not but that team is due for a win…
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Who is Chiefs QB now? Is Cassell healthy?
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Cassel had a concussion two weeks ago so he should be back or them.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 am
Offensive line ranked 5th last year, a surprise strength of the team. Top 11 I believe in rushing, without DMC, #2 in 2010 with him (mostly)?
So if we blew it up and it succeeded, it’s a reload. If it ended up crappy, it’s a rebuild. Built in excuse.
You don’t scrap what worked and install something inferior and keep calling dumb plays. You build on strengths and address weaknesses.
The only way this makes sense is if this is some sort of organizational philosophy change. Not building a system around players, but rather getting players to fit the system, which will take at least 2 years and will mean our best player is sacrificed for the greater good of Greg Knapp’s ego and/or Reggie’s inaction?
Carson for OC.
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Sorry for the negativity, the dropped TD by the browns WR cost me on a HUGE parlay with GB -6 & ARZ+7.5 & Tenn money line.
I’m a little grumpy today…
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 am
Offensive line ranked 5th last year, a surprise strength of the team. Top 11 I believe in rushing, without DMC, #2 in 2010 with him (mostly)?
So if we blew it up and it succeeded, it’s a reload. If it ended up crappy, it’s a rebuild. Built in excuse.
You don’t scrap what worked and install something inferior and keep calling dumb plays. You build on strengths and address weaknesses.
The only way this makes sense is if this is some sort of organizational philosophy change. Not building a system around players, but rather getting players to fit the system, which will take at least 2 years and will mean our best player is sacrificed for the greater good of Greg Knapp’s ego and/or Reggie’s inaction?
Carson for OC.
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Amen to that, DA seems like a smart guy. Why are we not seeing this take place? In our two wins…the offense ONLY looked acceptable when Carson was running the no-huddle. Coincidence…I think not.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
Too many people think we had a good running game last year. Forget the yards per carry numbers.
What GOOD DEFENSE DID WE RUN THE BALL AGAINST????
When was the last time we ran the ball to run out the clock and win a game?
Everyone talks about games the defense let slip away last year. If we could have run the ball when it counted the defense would not have been on the field.
The measuring stick is running against teams like Pittsburg and Baltimore(with Ray Lewis). Not against teams like Denver when we are down 20 and run a draw on 2nd and 15.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
the zbs makes the oline passive….they are getting whipped..,.
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Then why do so many other ZBS teams pass-block well? It’s not the scheme, it’s Pollack’s cruddy coaching.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 am
The one thing you can say about the 2012 Raiders is that they’re scrappy.
They’ve been in 4 dogfights and won 2, should have won 3.
Most of that is on CP.
The guy made a bone-headed INT, but in his defense, he’s trying to make a play when we had absolutely nothing else going on.
Last week’s bone-headed INT was inexcusable, though I I expect to see less of this, particularly if he’s allowed to run no-huddle.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 am
What GOOD DEFENSE DID WE RUN THE BALL AGAINST????
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NYJ and SD…. just off the top of my head.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
the zbs makes the oline passive….they are getting whipped..,.
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Then why do so many other ZBS teams pass-block well? It’s not the scheme, it’s Pollack’s cruddy coaching.
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The O-line definitely looks worse under his coaching, once again build on what was working. Oline was not dominant last year but it looked better than what we’ve had so far this season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 am
How come the plays Carson calls work, and the ones Knapp calls don’t? Well, my guess is Carson does not call many run plays, he calls plays he is comfortable with, those 10-15 yard passes with an outlet option via DMC and Myers…
The run game? I am surprised that run plays dont work regardless of down, distance, field position, etc… I am thinking the trouble is with play design. Cant be that the Oline is beat on every single friggin play regardless of the situation.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Screen game has taken a step back, O Line, run game.
WRs playing better and so is Carson, which is the only reason we’re 2-4.
Defense also has impressed in wk 1, wk 6, wk 7.
This last game was the type of game in years past the D would play balls to the wall for 3 quarters and mail it in after the umpteenth 3 and out from the offense.
They played like they were gonna win all by themselves.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 am
CP calls run plays. Don’t let the post-game PC comments fool you, that DMC run v. Pittsburgh was checked into at the line.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:10 am
Something needs to be said about all the short yardage plays being called on 3rd and long. Whether its CP3 calling the plays or Knapp, it seems on every third down, it ends up on a short pass ending up short of a first down. Where are all the down the field throws like the one to DHB? I would have thought after that deep ball pass to DHB they would come back to it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:10 am
when, if ever, will our run game start to work?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 am
The one thing you can say about the 2012 Raiders is that they’re scrappy.
They’ve been in 4 dogfights and won 2, should have won 3.
Most of that is on CP.
The guy made a bone-headed INT, but in his defense, he’s trying to make a play when we had absolutely nothing else going on.
Last week’s bone-headed INT was inexcusable, though I I expect to see less of this, particularly if he’s allowed to run no-huddle.
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Good point…penalties and mental errors are down as well. It’s good to see the Raiders keep fighting in spite of the offensive coaching blunders. Carson especially.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 am
I’m starting to wonder why all out fast as crap receivers can’t get separation so CP can pass to them. If they are so fast it has to be the routes they are running. ANd yes OL needs major upgrades.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 am
We know DA can make the right moves. A few times on 4th and goal has paid off (v. Pitt and v. JAX), challenging when appropriate, stripped 55 of the green sticker, had Knapp (or at least signed off) on way more man blocking.
So who is to say that by the time we hit mid season he doesn’t have the presence of mind to strip Knapp of playcalling duties or at least have CP run more no huddle.
Any idiot can see we’re at our best when CP calls plays at the line. And I don’t think DA is an idiot.
We’ve gone this long because he Knapp are buddies but this nepotism will cost him a season and maybe a job if he doesn’t make some changes.
Don’t get me wrong, we showed a ton of moxie yesterday and I was as happy as any member of the Nation (just ask any neighbor within a 2 block radius), but a performance like that can sometimes raise more questions than present answers.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:13 am
big run dmc fan, but very surprised goodson didnt get a few more carries and when will someone recognize the matchup nightmare marcel reese is and get him more involved.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Kirk Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Two of the worst teams I have ever seen.
Has the ever been a worse OC than Greg Knapp???
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Yes, Tom “Bed & Breakfast offsense” Walsh
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Just Win? That’s about all we did yesterday.
#uglybuti’lltakeit
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:13 am
big run dmc fan, but very surprised goodson didnt get a few more carries and when will someone recognize the matchup nightmare marcel reese is and get him more involved.
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He’s actually been targeted fairly regularly. Palmer said last week that teams are mauling him downfield and getting away with it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Wassup LA!
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 am
KC another must win, another team coming off a bye, another desperate team, another rivalry slugfest. If we can run the ball, we can can be a playoff team. We need spencer back v tampa
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 am
Raiders ranked #31 in rushing. Saints only team worse.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
The Raiders are ranked ahead of the Packers in passing yards at #9.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 am
So Bergstrom, Nix, and Parsons can’t get off the bench?
DA must not be too unhappy with the Oline, eh?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 am
Glad this rain didn’t come in yesterday or that game would have been even uglier.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Streater is going to have a boatload of confidence going into the next game.
What a bonus!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 am
J Hill Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 am
So Bergstrom, Nix, and Parsons can’t get off the bench?
DA must not be too unhappy with the Oline, eh?
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Agreed we need to shake it up, hopefully DA will make some moves after he ’sees the film’.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 am
J Hill Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Streater is going to have a boatload of confidence going into the next game.
What a bonus!!!
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I’m expecting a break out game from him soon. I think the rookie jitters are over.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Burris and Houston played huge roles in energizing the D… Slowlando keeps getting blocked, though he did manage a nice play at the end of the game…Huffy getting better, I thought he would never be able to make the change to CB, but he is improving.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 am
Raiders ranked #31 in rushing. Saints only team worse.
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Ouch, more red flags that Knapp and Pollack needs to be relieved of their duties.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Streater made 2 of the sweetest catches this season yesterday…Kid is going to be a weapon for us.
Got to give Reggie credit on Streater and Burris.
Still got more questions than answers about DA and Co…but these two kids can play.
When will we get our Special teams on track has to be a question inside harbor Pkwy today…
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
This is a cool video I thought I would share.
http://f1065nffm-unwy0ypxo0pv0j5i.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=ZAM65
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:31 am
We are officially a middle of the pack defense. I said prior to the season we should be happy if DA can churn out an average D with this crew. He did. What I didn’t forecast was his OC turning a top rushing team into almost THE worst. SMH
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 am
Expect a few more “Unscouted Looks” from the Queefs this weekend..They are coming off a bye too and will have plenty of ‘Wrinkles’ for our offensive linemen to deal with. I swear to God though, if we don’t get Taiwan Jones (our version of Jamaal Charles) involved in the game with some screens or some quick hitters on the outside we are going to lose for sure.
The fact that this coaching staff doesn’t seem to want to get our fresh legged playmakers involved in the offense is sickening. The defense Keys on one player, DMAC…they don’t have to worry about anyone else. If they stuff him, they stuff our whole offense.
We should run the no huddle the ENTIRE GAME! Bring in 5 wides, spread the defense out, and get after that a$$…they blitz??Hit the hot read, Taiwan or somebody in the slot and let em do their thing! This coaching staff is more conservative than Romney’s tighty whities….
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
What did DMac get on that last drive in regulation? about 15 yards, so without that one drive he would have had about 45 yds rushing against the 31st ranked run D…PATHETIC
Maybe it’s time for a reverse or at least a fake, misdirection, anything but to keep plowing into the right side of the O Line…
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
I realy have a hard time understanding how some of you think Brisel, Smith, and Carlisle would some how be better with more angle blocking.
You guys do realize we installed more angle blocking, or power as some of you like to call it, during the bye week?
Those guys still stink. Sometimes.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
MikieG – the no-huddle is much tougher to run on the road. I don’t have a good feeling about the next game. Chiefs will be hungry.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Streater made 2 of the sweetest catches this season yesterday…Kid is going to be a weapon for us.
Got to give Reggie credit on Streater and Burris.
Still got more questions than answers about DA and Co…but these two kids can play.
When will we get our Special teams on track has to be a question inside harbor Pkwy today…
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Great points VH30….Burris and Wheeler are fast becoming a great LB tandem.
Special teams are another strength made into a weakness by a coaching change.
Van Halen fan? NKOT is some good stuff.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
Anyone catch DHB during hs post game interview say that they were calling the wrong plays in the huddle?
How does that happen, and how does anyone without the green dot know?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
I’m impressed with how the secondary has improved. We are still playing with players off the scrap heap.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Anyone catch DHB during hs post game interview say that they were calling the wrong plays in the huddle?
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Who is they? Palmer?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Seems like having a bit of a pass rush is helping the DB’s greatly…did Curry see the field yesterday?
Mikie G: totally agree about Taiwan, he’s got to get some plays called for him soon, Ausberry too.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
#737, agree. Anyone critical of Reggie needs to look at exhibit A, Burris and Wheeler. Acquired at bargain bacement prices, too.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:43 am
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
Anyone catch DHB during hs post game interview say that they were calling the wrong plays in the huddle?
How does that happen, and how does anyone without the green dot know?
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That is bad, Dennis Allen MUST make a change to allow Carson to run the no huddle all the time…doesn’t Payton Manning run the no huddle all the time? Why can’t Carson do the same?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
That is bad, Dennis Allen MUST make a change to allow Carson to run the no huddle all the time…doesn’t Payton Manning run the no huddle all the time? Why can’t Carson do the same?
^^^^^Peyton Manning
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Reggie is tanking.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Lecher has lost his mojo. King will be your punter next year.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Lecher has lost his mojo. King will be your punter next year.
That was my bigest question yesterday…why is Lechler NOT booming punts like he used to these days?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
I imagine that carson is limited in playcalling on the field by the personel froupings he’s sent in from Knapp…they have to work together to get this right.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
Lecher booting 45 yard line drives. Wth happened to him?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
MikieG – the no-huddle is much tougher to run on the road. I don’t have a good feeling about the next game. Chiefs will be hungry.
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Good Point but there are definite ways around it though. Silent count and All you need are 6-7 different hand signals..Used in different combinations and you could run offense like that all day. We won’t of course, but we could.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Lecher has lost his mojo. King will be your punter next year.
That was my bigest question yesterday…why is Lechler NOT booming punts like he used to these days?
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Could it be lingering effects of the injury early this year?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Shane KNOWS he’s out with King on the IR…
Dr Thompson…tanking is for LOSERS!
Especially without 1 or 2 clear cut Franchise players in the draft…We picked 1st with JR and what did that get us?
this team needs to leard to win, at any expense, even draft picks…
BTW: Brady Quinn was the #2 pick in that draft, and well, he’s a back up now.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Reggie inherited a team that was a cunt hair away from the playoffs and he neutered it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Special teams are another strength made into a weakness by a coaching change.
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Strength? How do you figure? Our return game was terrible last year, as was our kick and punt coverage. We haven’t gotten any worse in these areas. SeaBass’s only miss on the season is a long 64 yarder and Lechlers numbers are definitely hurt by the long snapper debacle in week 1.
Tell me how our spec teams were a strength last year that has been hurt?
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 am
What up J.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Yeah, we installed PBS stuff over the bye and now we have a line of guys who can’t execute either PBS or ZBS!
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Tell you what…there are some annoying people that show up to the games. Lots of good fans, but some annoying ones. Couple of snobs sitting a couple rows ahead of us that seemed to get irritated whenever folks around them yelled and showed little if no emotion when we did well. Yes, they were wearing Raider gear. I think they got their tix from a ticket rep they know. And wtf is up with people yelling when we’re on offense?
I think of all the great fans, many in here, that could replace some of these morons.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Big misconception about the Raiders no-huddle offense is that Carson Palmer calls the plays instead of Greg Knapp. Not true …
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Uh oh ….
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
582.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:Reggie is tanking the season for draft picks.==============================
How,exactly,does the GM do that? We’re not talking Al Davis, Owner/GM kind of influence here.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Reggie inherited a team that was a cunt hair away from the playoffs and he neutered it.
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LOL. We were outscored by an AVERAGE of 12 points per game over the last 5 weeks last year. Opponents failed to score 20 or more points in only 3 games last year. We allowed 27 or more points in EIGHT games last year. Being a cunt hair away from MAKING the playoffs doesn’t mean dick. We were not a playoff worthy competitor. That team hit its ceiling at .500
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
Wow The Washington Post just tore Oboma a new one.
And they are liberal as they come. The long knives are coming out
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 am
if we don’t get Taiwan Jones (our version of Jamaal Charles) involved in the game with some screens or some quick hitters on the outside we are going to lose for sure.
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Dude is made of glass, been limited for weeks with bum ribs and last week he hurt his knee in practice, hence being inactive. You can’t get guys involved when they are in the tub.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 am
J Hill Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Big misconception about the Raiders no-huddle offense is that Carson Palmer calls the plays instead of Greg Knapp. Not true …
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Uh oh ….
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Really? Why the sudden improvement then?
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Uh oh is right!! The semis will tear Vic apart for blasphemy
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
I agree that we were a cunt hair from making the playoffs. Hell, we were a YOUNG cunt hair away, in my opinion.
The defense really was horrible though, it’s hard to believe that this years defense is better than last years, but it clearly is.
In hindsight, I wish they had left the offense alone, especially considering that Al Saunders is still on the payroll.
It is what it is though and we have to look forward, not backward.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Reggie inherited a team that was a cunt hair away from the playoffs and he neutered it.
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LOL. We were outscored by an AVERAGE of 12 points per game over the last 5 weeks last year. Opponents failed to score 20 or more points in only 3 games last year. We allowed 27 or more points in EIGHT games last year. Being a cunt hair away from MAKING the playoffs doesn’t mean dick. We were not a playoff worthy competitor. That team hit its ceiling at .500
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so far every opponent has scored over 20 points this year…good point..lol.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
How do you like this year’s team?
If not for MJD and Gabbart going down, the Raiders get blown out at home yesterday.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Really? Why the sudden improvement then?
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Uh, tiring out the defense, preventing their substitutions, not allowing them to match our personel, taking advantage of mismatches… common sense man.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
That team hit its ceiling at .500
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And they needed a long ladder to reach that
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
That is bad, Dennis Allen MUST make a change to allow Carson to run the no huddle all the time…doesn’t Payton Manning run the no huddle all the time? Why can’t Carson do the same?
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No. The QB who takes the most snaps in the NFL out of the no huddle in 2012 is Ryan Tannehill at 58%
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
So SD used stickem?
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
r. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
How do you like this year’s team?
If not for MJD and Gabbart going down, the Raiders get blown out at home yesterday.
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didnt our defense take both them out? it was tks best penalty of his career
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 am
Really? Why the sudden improvement then?
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Uh, tiring out the defense, preventing their substitutions, not allowing them to match our personel, taking advantage of mismatches… common sense man.
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Common sense would be identifying the trend and repeating the strategy…
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Really? Why the sudden improvement then?
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Uh, tiring out the defense, preventing their substitutions, not allowing them to match our personel, taking advantage of mismatches… common sense man.
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No need to get an attitude bro, I’ve seen a night and day difference between the two. Carson has to make some reads and make his own call. It can’t be Knapp running both. My point is…it works, why not use it all the time. Our offense has been pretty pathetic otherwise.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Good point. If we can simply injure the starting QBs and RBs of all of our opponents we might be okay.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
No huddle is when they line up in a formation and QB makes adjustments based on the D. That’s why Carson is out there talking to guys and why their heads are turned around, listening for the play. By then, his mic is shut off. Sometimes, there’s a set play, but it’s almost always adjusted.
Don’t buy the BS, they’ve BEEN trying to save face for Knapp.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
Anybody that is even a casual Raider fan can see that the only time this offense looks competent at all is when CP is calling his own plays in the no-huddle.
That this coaching staff refuses to use it except after we fall behind by 7 to 10 points, sez to me that they are more interested in their ego’s than in winning.
Last week we fell behind by 7 and we finally go no-huddle and we score a TD in less than 2 minutes.
We fall behind by 10 and run the no-huddle this week and score seven points in less than two minutes.
We beat Pitts by running the no-huddle.
But this coaching staff doesn’t see a pattern here.
And this is the staff we are expected to bring us a SB ring?
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
LA to Bay
2011 defense
Jets rank 20 total defense (13 against the run)
Chargers rank 22 total defense (20 aginst the run)
Average units at best.
Please research before answering when you do not know.
It looks like you are a member of the group that thinks snapping your fingers and making a coaching change will make thinks better.
How many coaching changes have been made in the last ten years while getting the same results????
Hint: We need better players especially on the line of scrimmage. Players are 80% of the game.
We are on the right track but revisionist history does not work. We have not run or stopped the run for years.
We have had weak lines for a decade and the results speak for themselves.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Carson is relaying the play to the guys at the line instead of in the huddle, sure he might audible, but guess who designs the audibles each week… that would be Knapp too.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Good point. If we can simply injure the starting QBs and RBs of all of our opponents we might be okay.
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why all the negativity in here? we won. name the last raider team to comeback from a 14 point deficit in the 2nd half and win. we have 2 winnable games ahead of us and if we win then we will be 4-4 and most likely tied for first place. Is DA over his head as a rookie head coach , yes, Is Reggie over his head as a rookie GM, yes..do they both deserve time to make their mark? yes..Knapp on the other hand is over his head and deserves the pink slip. but for now, the season continues and the next 2 games will define this team. if 2-6 happens then negativity should reign down..but im willing to give them a chance to get to 4-4..
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Gdog Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
Anybody that is even a casual Raider fan can see that the only time this offense looks competent at all is when CP is calling his own plays in the no-huddle.
That this coaching staff refuses to use it except after we fall behind by 7 to 10 points, sez to me that they are more interested in their ego’s than in winning.
Last week we fell behind by 7 and we finally go no-huddle and we score a TD in less than 2 minutes.
We fall behind by 10 and run the no-huddle this week and score seven points in less than two minutes.
We beat Pitts by running the no-huddle.
But this coaching staff doesn’t see a pattern here.
And this is the staff we are expected to bring us a SB ring?
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Great points Gdog….if the no huddle works… DON’T STOP using it! Why is this so hard for our coaching staff to accept?
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 am
We picked 1st with JR and what did that get us?
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The one thing I remember about that draft is a player named Calvin Johnson, who was said to be a cant miss WR with size, speed and great hands. We drafted the guy who will be watching Calvin Johnson tonight while on his couch sucking nacho cheese from his diamond crusted jersey hanging from his fat sweaty neck.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Great points Gdog….if the no huddle works… DON’T STOP using it! Why is this so hard for our coaching staff to accept?
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58%… that is the HIGHEST percentage in the NFL of no huddle offense.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 am
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Carson is relaying the play to the guys at the line instead of in the huddle, sure he might audible, but guess who designs the audibles each week… that would be Knapp too
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Great, then Knapp should keep going to this option because his other methods are failing big time.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Pure luck.That d-pass interference call is what won this game.They looked absolutly lost out there in the first half,nobody seemed to know what the fk they were doing.Further evidence that Reggie screwed this team up and should be first to go.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Great points Gdog….if the no huddle works… DON’T STOP using it! Why is this so hard for our coaching staff to accept?
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58%… that is the HIGHEST percentage in the NFL of no huddle offense.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall Peyton Manning using a huddle very often recently.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Oakfoshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Pure luck.That d-pass interference call is what won this game.They looked absolutly lost out there in the first half,nobody seemed to know what the fk they were doing.Further evidence that Reggie screwed this team up and should be first to go.
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Reggie will be the GM of this team at least until the next Presidential election, and hopefully much longer.
Deal with it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall Peyton Manning using a huddle very often recently.
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He is using it at least 43% of his snaps because Ryan Tannehill leads then NFL in snaps from the no huddle at 58%
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
speaking of the no huddle, will never forget when gannon went 34 out of 38 on the monday night game against the broncos when he went no hundle and passed almost every play. i think the raiders had like 25yds rushing and they smacked the donkeys.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 am
Pure luck.That d-pass interference call is what won this game.They looked absolutly lost out there in the first half,nobody seemed to know what the fk they were doing.Further evidence that Reggie screwed this team up and should be first to go.
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So our D looking completely “LOST” is a new development this year aye? Yep Fire Reggie, that fix it for sure. Just like Al not running our D would fix it too.
Tyvon Branch running to the sideline and leaving Sheets “WIDE THE FU*K OPEN” was all on Reggie.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall Peyton Manning using a huddle very often recently.
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He is using it at least 43% of his snaps because Ryan Tannehill leads then NFL in snaps from the no huddle at 58%
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Ok, can we agree whatever % of the time the Raiders are using it… it works and works well. I think it’s the main reason we are 2-4 and not 0-6.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
winning 26-23 or 50-0 still equals one win
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Dolphins use the most no huddle @58.9% Next are the Ravens (54.2 percent), Broncos (45.6 percent), Patriots (32.8 percent), Packers (29.3 percent), Eagles (23.8 percent), Lions (20 percent), Chiefs 19.8 percent), Steelers (18.7 percent) and Falcons (18.5 percent).
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
winning 26-23 or 50-0 still equals one win
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You’d think we lost, the way some in here moan and groan and carry on…
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am
nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
speaking of the no huddle, will never forget when gannon went 34 out of 38 on the monday night game against the broncos when he went no hundle and passed almost every play. i think the raiders had like 25yds rushing and they smacked the donkeys.
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Good times NYC…seems like a long time ago now. 10+ years of losing will do that to ya.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
I’m hoping Jonathan Vilma gets revenge on the NFL next week by injuring Manning.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
Waddup Nation
Rack ‘em
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Ok, can we agree whatever % of the time the Raiders are using it… it works and works well. I think it’s the main reason we are 2-4 and not 0-6.
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Give a little credit to the defense that made that possible. We shut the steelers out in the 4th qtr, and forced a key turnover. We also sacked Roethlisburger late and forced a punt to give our no huddle another shot. Same as yesterday. Defense showed up in the second half and shut Jax down, gave the offense the opportunity.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Yezzir… breaking news – Brady Quinn has just been named the starter – oh happy day! If the D brings that 2nd half effort; it’s gonna be a loooooooooooooong day for the Queefs…
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
winning 26-23 or 50-0 still equals one win
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You’d think we lost, the way some in here moan and groan and carry on…
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yeah and we have 2 winnable games in front of us that could make us 4-4 and probably tied for first place. if we go 2-6 then ill get all the negativity. But to come back in the 2nd half when trailing by 14 against any nfl team is a positive.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Why do we get scheduled to play teams coming off bye weeks and have the extra week to prepare two weeks in a row? I wonder if any other teams get scheduled that way. I thought this kind of stuff would quit happening after Al’s passing, but apparently not.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Ok, can we agree whatever % of the time the Raiders are using it… it works and works well. I think it’s the main reason we are 2-4 and not 0-6.
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Give a little credit to the defense that made that possible. We shut the steelers out in the 4th qtr, and forced a key turnover. We also sacked Roethlisburger late and forced a punt to give our no huddle another shot. Same as yesterday. Defense showed up in the second half and shut Jax down, gave the offense the opportunity.
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Not taking anything away from our D…they are playing better than anything we’ve had in years. If our O doesn’t score any points though we don’t get the win.
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Why do we get scheduled to play teams coming off bye weeks and have the extra week to prepare two weeks in a row? I wonder if any other teams get scheduled that way. I thought this kind of stuff would quit happening after Al’s passing, but apparently not.
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That’s just the vagaries of scheduling. It’s bound to happen to every team sooner or later.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
794.RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
winning 26-23 or 50-0 still equals one win
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You’d think we lost, the way some in here moan and groan and carry on…
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I’m definately happy they won. Gotta tell ya though, it seemed like one of our “Here we go again” trademark games. Sh*t the bed at home against an inferior team. The blown coverage TD, Big hit to DHB only to settle for 3, zany interception….and I dunno bout yall, but I’m so fu*kin sick….I mean SICK of watching guy after guy after guy, muff punts and fumble returns. I’m proud that they didn’t quit yesterday. They dug down, fought and found a way to win. It’s like they won in spite of THEMSELVES.
The game was tied LATE in 4th…..3rd or maybe 2nd down….anyway Moore grabs a slant and has PLENTY of room to get the 1st down but is more concerned with getting outta bounds that he loses yards and kills the drive. We coulda spiked the ball with a 1st down. I dunno.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 am
796.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
I’m hoping Jonathan Vilma gets revenge on the NFL next week by injuring Manning.
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I’m surprised noone has gotten to him yet.
Peyton has turned out to be everything we hoped he wouldn’t be.
I thought the whole thing was overhyped at first but he’s definitely lived up to the billing..and then some.
Big foreheaded baztard.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 am
From Grantland:
But then a game like yesterday’s happens. A game that, barring the 47 Jaguars and Raiders fans left in America, was essentially a Monday Night Football game happening in the middle of a Sunday afternoon.
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F*ck you Grantland.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
DJ Johnny Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 am
796.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
I’m hoping Jonathan Vilma gets revenge on the NFL next week by injuring Manning.
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I’m surprised noone has gotten to him yet.
Peyton has turned out to be everything we hoped he wouldn’t be.
I thought the whole thing was overhyped at first but he’s definitely lived up to the billing..and then some.
Big foreheaded baztard.
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He has great protection and gets rid of the ball quick. Its hard to get to that bastard.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
778.Charlie Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
LA to Bay
2011 defense
Jets rank 20 total defense (13 against the run)
Chargers rank 22 total defense (20 aginst the run)
Average units at best.
Please research before answering when you do not know.
It looks like you are a member of the group that thinks snapping your fingers and making a coaching change will make thinks better.
How many coaching changes have been made in the last ten years while getting the same results????
Hint: We need better players especially on the line of scrimmage. Players are 80% of the game.
We are on the right track but revisionist history does not work. We have not run or stopped the run for years.
We have had weak lines for a decade and the results speak for themselves.
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Actually, I’m one of the guys that thinks we should have kept the same head coah, rather than changing one at the snap of a finger.
At any rate, at the time we played the Jets (wk 3), they were still considered a formidable defense and SD was the #1 defense the previous year. Where they ended up at the end of last year is only somewhat relevant.
At the time we played those teams, they were considered ‘good’ defenses.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Nycraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
winning 26-23 or 50-0 still equals one win
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You’d think we lost, the way some in here moan and groan and carry on…
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Those aren’t Raider fans carrying on. Those are Charger, Bronco and Whiner fans in here moaning and groaning.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
theghostronin79 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
I’m definately happy they won. Gotta tell ya though, it seemed like one of our “Here we go again” trademark games. Sh*t the bed at home against an inferior team. The blown coverage TD, Big hit to DHB only to settle for 3, zany interception….and I dunno bout yall, but I’m so fu*kin sick….I mean SICK of watching guy after guy after guy, muff punts and fumble returns. I’m proud that they didn’t quit yesterday. They dug down, fought and found a way to win. It’s like they won in spite of THEMSELVES.
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This was ANOTHER game where everything went wrong. And the team won. Same as the Shi**sburgh game. I like it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Whether it’s tempo, rhythm, CP changing plays, calling audibles, or Greg Knapp, the no huddle has been very effective.
Nobody runs no huddle 100% of the time. But We should use it more than we have.
Why is it when we go to it, it’s effective and when we don’t, we break the huddle and attempt to execute some cr@ppy Knapp play call?
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Horrible 1st half, but we found a way to win it. In years past, I think we lose this one.
CP3 and the offense needs to stick w/ the no huddle. It’s much more effective, than Knapp’s play calling.
Yes, we played a bad offense, but the D seems to be making strides. IMO, it can only get better once we get all players healthy.
Wheeler stepping up big time and becoming a leader of our Defense.
Win next week and come back home w/ some momentum and confidence.
4-4 is very realistic!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Our D plays tougher and gels better, when McJogger is off the field.
McJogger is a liability to the Defense, like Jassizurp was to our Offense.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am
This is pretty funny and some terrible tackling from the Tampa / Saints game:
http://i.minus.com/ib0RUTbivr1s7U.gif
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Jerry Rice @JerryRice
RT @nfl: Brady Quinn to start for #Chiefs against #Raiders: http://on.nfl.com/Quinn2Start
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Brady Quinn to start for the Chefs against Raiders.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Way to much negativity after a win. Hopefully, the team will rally around the victory and better prepare for the Chiefs. To much losing the past ten seasons has made our fans bitter, even after a much needed win. I still wont cash in the season until the 7th and 8th loss.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
DMAC !!
good day Mr President !!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
DMAC Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
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Well then…
FK u guys on this beautiful rainy morning in the O-A-K
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
brady quinn is exactly what we need..its always close in kc and our mvp will win it again for us. 19-17 raiders with jano from 47 as time expires
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
DMAC !!
good day Mr President !!
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What up ODB?!
Mondays are always better coming off a Raider victory.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
BELOW IS FROM VIC TAFUR – SF CHRONICLE:
I know Raiders fans want to blame Greg Knapp for everything, but there’s a big misconception about the no-huddle offense going around. People think that quarterback Carson Palmer calls the plays instead of the offensive coordinator when the offense starts humming like it did in the second half Sunday. Not true …
Knapp calls three or four plays and Palmer chooses one based on what he sees at the line of scrimmage from the defense.
“There’s communication between him and Greg Knapp,” coach Dennis Allen said. “Carson makes the final decision based off of the game plan and what we feel like we can do to exploit their defensive structure.”
Knapp, after chewing out the offensive players at halftime, flipped the switch to the no-huddle to start the third quarter.
I asked Allen what took so long (since I couldn’t ask Knapp, who is only available to writers on Thursdays).
“We’ve used it in the first half of other games,” Allen said. “It’s something that we’ve always got in our game plan and we look for the right opportunities to use it. Whenever the situation dictates that, that’s when we’ll break it out.”
So, the Raiders see the no-huddle as a change-up … but what if your change-up is your best pitch? I am sure Allen will be asked again about this at today’s news conference.
Also, Knapp may deserve some criticism for his play-calling but the last time I checked he doesn’t block. And that’s the big issue now. The Raiders run game didn’t get anywhere on power or zone blocking plays yesterday. And Palmer has taken a beating the last two weeks.
“(The Jaguars) won the battle up front — there’s no question about it,” Allen said. “We weren’t able to run the ball effectively. We had too much pressure on the quarterback, so that’s going to be something we’re going to have to look at and we have to get that corrected moving forward.”
If not, we’ll be talking about Matt Leinart’s use of the no-huddle soon.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
You are right there is a lot of negativity! I agree and I am guilty of myself. Would love us to win a game and NOT look like the Keystone Cops while doing it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
remember when ken stabler would call his own plays in the huddle.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
McJogger did make one good run stop yesterday! Burris is becoming a good player…hope he continues!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
McJogger did make one good run stop yesterday! Burris is becoming a good player…hope he continues!
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What up?
Made it to the game minutes before kickoff. Dumb ass patnas were taking hella long.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Burris was a solid pick by Mackenzie. He knows how to draft. With a first round pick next season, look forward to another solid draft.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Game was def. not sold out yesterday.
+ lots of fans went home after our horrible 1st half.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
Is that what happened? So you did get my text then? i was wondering if it was the darn network acting up again!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
I missed the first drive one season verse the Falcons. #2 started. Falcons scored a TD on that drive. Sad thing is with #2 starter I knew the game was already over. 27-3, Raiders lose. I met Tom Flores in the parking lot. That made my day.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
Is that what happened? So you did get my text then? i was wondering if it was the darn network acting up again!
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Got the text
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
Lol @ Big foreheaded baztard.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 am
So who blew the coverage on the long TD pass?
Who knocked out Gabbert?
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Why can’t DA see the difference between Big Head’s play calling and his constant overuse of DMAC who is ineffective and CP’s no huddle play calling????
It’s obvious, even to the dumbest of us in here.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Kelly knocked out Gabbert
Branch blew the coverage, was supposed to provide deep support, got fooled by a double move
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
We had a lot of food yesterday, DMAC! B came by, and then disappeared until almost game time! All in all, it was a fun tailgate yesterday…like usual!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
cam newtdumb “i iz gunna brings ina suggestionbox” === what a dumb baboon…. a 7-15 LOSER
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
boss01 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Kelly knocked out Gabbert
Branch blew the coverage, was supposed to provide deep support, got fooled by a double move
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Thanx
Yeah, I thought it was Branch (always blows coverages)
Glad to see Missile Mike finally contributing on the D.
Would love to see Mitchell step his game up and make a push for the starting SS position.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
YO WHUT UP PMPP IN THE HIZZY
Missed OT because I got wasted on margs and started an acoustic jam in the living room
Played some dope Rasta Ganja hits, way fun after weeks of rehearsal for the Wrecks N Effect tour
Might take the boyz, a Ziploc full of the sticky green and do a show this weekend down San Diego way. Nothing like ocean smooth reggae to get you in the mood
Plus I need to get the Beeeech Lawg some action
Back soon with my Lake Show analysis, sit tight nerds
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Is it time to insert MM on obvious passing plays and sit Branch?
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
I believe Branch is still the team leader in tackles, but that doesn’t mean anything! Wheeler is #2 in that category! If Missile can step it up and take it from Branch…hey, whatever helps this team win!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Fangsraiders Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
cam newtdumb “i iz gunna brings ina suggestionbox” === what a dumb baboon…. a 7-15 LOSER
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And I see our resident KKK wannabe has “graced” us with his dubious presence…
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Branch is an excellent tackler, but sucks in pass coverage.
Would love to see MM push him.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
I read it was a communiaction breakdown between Adams (who muffed that darn punt) and Branch…
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Missle Mike had himself a nice game yesterday, despite the ritual boneheaded STU play.
They been using him more since the bye. I like him on the TE.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
SO Brady Quinn officially named the starter next week. No excuse for our D to dominate the whole game. If we manage to stop Jamaal Charles and that’s a big if, the game is in the bag, that is if the Offensive coordinator manages to get his head out of his a55
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
No excuse NOT to dominate against Brady Quinn
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Running a no-huddle on the road is a much more difficult task, than being at home.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Yo, D-Wizzle looked dope last night, gettin’ hella dunks off the lob
Also filled up the key on D and flexed some mad block muscle
Partied serious in the Lexus luxury box, although didn’t get the hand jiggity I was looking for
No probs, hit the nacho buffet and spent the 3rd quarter in the can with the hershey squirts
Guess that’s why they call it the blues
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Raiders D allowed just 54 yards of total offense to Jags after halftime.
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Yeah, it was against a team that ranked last in offense, but it was still a great effort from our team yesterday, after the half.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
so there was a span there where we kept a Jaguar drive alive by repeatedly jumping offsides. that was a point in the game where the frustration levels were prolly the higest all game.
however, i also noticed that we were getting to the QB, and even took him out of the game despite an offsides penalty.
it made me question which i would rather have, an undisciplined defense that beats up opposing players, or a disciplined one that lets opposing teams methodically march up and down the field on them.
irregardless of the answer, i like our defense right now.
special teams still suck, and we need more no huddle and less Knapp.
but a win is a win.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
My views are typically right on cue with Jerry and Steve’s, anyway. I agree with the authors of this blog most of the time.
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Ah, no. They both have considerably more respect for AD than you ever did.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
YO WHUT UP PMPP IN THE HIZZY
Missed OT because I got wasted on margs and started an acoustic jam in the living room
Played some dope Rasta Ganja hits, way fun after weeks of rehearsal for the Wrecks N Effect tour
Might take the boyz, a Ziploc full of the sticky green and do a show this weekend down San Diego way. Nothing like ocean smooth reggae to get you in the mood
Plus I need to get the Beeeech Lawg some action
Back soon with my Lake Show analysis, sit tight nerds
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Tweeb,
Go suck your dishwasher off at Olive Garden. Btw, did you get your mother bailed out for solicitation yet?
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Cheifs starting Brady Quinn against us this Sunday!!! Go Raiders!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Watch out Fakers!
Dubs are a team to be reckoned w/ this season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
I’m very confused why Fangbanger hasn’t been banned yet.
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Yo, D-Wizzle looked dope last night, gettin’ hella dunks off the lob
Also filled up the key on D and flexed some mad block muscle
Partied serious in the Lexus luxury box, although didn’t get the hand jiggity I was looking for
No probs, hit the nacho buffet and spent the 3rd quarter in the can with the hershey squirts
Guess that’s why they call it the blues
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hey Nerdo,
Take any unconscious victims recently ? As is your specialty….
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Quinn > Gabbert and Henne
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Wassup w/ the increase of lisfranc foot injuries the last 2 seasons?
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
I’m very confused why Fangbanger hasn’t been banned yet.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He will be banned, soon.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Leinart > Quinn
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Brady Quinn will start over Matt Cassel (concussion) for the Chiefs in Week 8.
The Chiefs are presumably taking things week-by-week at quarterback, but with Cassel expected to gain full clearance to return this week, he’s ostensibly being benched. Cassel’s horrendous play — 14 turnovers in five games, 66.2 QB rating — certainly warrants a benching, but the problem is Quinn is arguably worse. Quinn was a disaster in his Week 6 start against the Bucs’ pathetic pass defense, and is the owner of a career 52.4 completion percentage and 5.4 YPA. He figures to stir memories of Tyler Palko down the stretch. Aside from a disgruntled Dwayne Bowe, the Chiefs’ entire passing game is safe to ignore for fantasy purposes. One wonders why GM Scott Pioli didn’t see fit to re-sign Kyle Orton last winter.
Related: Matt Cassel
Source: Adam Teicher on Twitter
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis insisted Monday that the team is not considering benching MLB Rey Maualuga.
Mualauga has been abominable this season, particularly against the run. He overruns too many plays and struggles mightily to get off blocks at the second level. Cincy’s run defense has been incredibly disappointing after finishing last season as a top-ten unit. Maualuga does deceptively have 58 tackles through seven games, and is tied for ninth in the league in that worthless statistic.
Source: Geoff Hobson on twitter
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Trade???
McJogger for Maulaga?
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
DMAC Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis insisted Monday that the team is not considering benching MLB Rey Maualuga.
Mualauga has been abominable this season, particularly against the run.
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Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
DMAC Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis insisted Monday that the team is not considering benching MLB Rey Maualuga.
Mualauga has been abominable this season, particularly against the run.
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Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
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Really?
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Albert Klas Puss, I never got my NFL score updates in a quick and timely manner
Next weekend don’t lag or I’ll be forced to use espn.com for my updates
Don’t let the Beeech Diggity down, whut whut
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Chargers accused of cheating with illegal stickum
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20632545/chargers-accused-of-cheating-with-illegal-stickum
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Gotta run peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears! (fire Tedford)
Go Raiders! (let’s get to .500)
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
#867
That is hilarious!
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
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Really?
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Really.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
#867
That is hilarious!
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That is hillarious. I remember back when Freddie Biletnikoff couldn’t reach inside his helmet to scratch his cheek for fear his hand would stick there. I think Fred may have invented stickum.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
870.Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
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Really?
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Really.
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Before he went on IR or after? I normally agree with what you have to say, but that’s hard to believe.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
It was nice to finally see Burris get that Huge sack I’ve been waiting for. A clean, breakaway, 8 yard sprint, untouched pasting…..
More will come.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Mualauga has been abominable this season, particularly against the run. He overruns too many plays and struggles mightily to get off blocks at the second level. Cincy’s run defense has been incredibly disappointing
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And you’d really rather have this type of player on our team?
SMH
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I can’t believe #20 has turned into Fargas 2012. They said we go as far as McFadden goes. Well, we’re 2-4. We’re about 3 games late to go to a time share, but that’s exactly what DA should be demanding.
Get Goodsen and Jones in there for hell’s sake!! McFadden has proven that if there is nothing there he will get just that, nothing. Hell, sometimes when there is something there he still gets nothing.
It’s just so hard to watch this guy run full speed into the backs of the oline all day. No patience, no moves, no broken tackles, nada!
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Brady Quinn will start over Matt Cassel (concussion) for the Chiefs in Week 8.
The Chiefs are presumably taking things week-by-week at quarterback, but with Cassel expected to gain full clearance to return this week, he’s ostensibly being benched. Cassel’s horrendous play — 14 turnovers in five games, 66.2 QB rating — certainly warrants a benching, but the problem is Quinn is arguably worse. Quinn was a disaster in his Week 6 start against the Bucs’ pathetic pass defense, and is the owner of a career 52.4 completion percentage and 5.4 YPA. He figures to stir memories of Tyler Palko down the stretch. Aside from a disgruntled Dwayne Bowe, the Chiefs’ entire passing game is safe to ignore for fantasy purposes. One wonders why GM Scott Pioli didn’t see fit to re-sign Kyle Orton last winter.
Related: Matt Cassel
Source: Adam Teicher on Twitter
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The incompetence in the NFL never ceases to amaze…
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
FreddieB Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
870.Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
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Really?
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Really.
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Before he went on IR or after? I normally agree with what you have to say, but that’s hard to believe.
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I was watching last nights game with some friends and I was specifically saying how if I was a “color announcer” I would pick out a guy like Maualuga, who has been lambasted, and break his game down live. Sure enough, I was following Maualuga for most of the second half and he was just terrible out there. It was remarkable how bad he played and stayed in the game. Even tho the game was tight Pitt just ran right at him and iced the game. He is another guy who can’t play at this level.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
FreddieB Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
870.Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
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Really?
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Really.
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Before he went on IR or after? I normally agree with what you have to say, but that’s hard to believe.
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I was watching last nights game with some friends and I was specifically saying how if I was a “color announcer” I would pick out a guy like Maualuga, who has been lambasted, and break his game down live. Sure enough, I was following Maualuga for most of the second half and he was just terrible out there. It was remarkable how bad he played and stayed in the game. Even tho the game was tight Pitt just ran right at him and iced the game. He is another guy who can’t play at this level.
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The eye in the sky don’t lie.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
FreddieB Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
870.Seymour Bush Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Maualuga makes McClain look like Ray Lewis.
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Really?
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Really.
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Before he went on IR or after? I normally agree with what you have to say, but that’s hard to believe.
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I was watching last nights game with some friends and I was specifically saying how if I was a “color announcer” I would pick out a guy like Maualuga, who has been lambasted, and break his game down live. Sure enough, I was following Maualuga for most of the second half and he was just terrible out there. It was remarkable how bad he played and stayed in the game. Even tho the game was tight Pitt just ran right at him and iced the game. He is another guy who can’t play at this level.
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Do these friends know you spend your days getting slapped silly on a football blog?
If so, they definitely don’t know about your 86 equally battered aliases
HOLLA
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Beeech, Lions and Bears at tied 0-0
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Brady Quinn will start over Matt Cassel (concussion) for the Chiefs in Week 8.
The Chiefs are presumably taking things week-by-week at quarterback, but with Cassel expected to gain full clearance to return this week, he’s ostensibly being benched. Cassel’s horrendous play — 14 turnovers in five games, 66.2 QB rating — certainly warrants a benching, but the problem is Quinn is arguably worse. Quinn was a disaster in his Week 6 start against the Bucs’ pathetic pass defense, and is the owner of a career 52.4 completion percentage and 5.4 YPA. He figures to stir memories of Tyler Palko down the stretch. Aside from a disgruntled Dwayne Bowe, the Chiefs’ entire passing game is safe to ignore for fantasy purposes. One wonders why GM Scott Pioli didn’t see fit to re-sign Kyle Orton last winter.
Related: Matt Cassel
Source: Adam Teicher on Twitter
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The incompetence in the NFL never ceases to amaze…
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What I find amazing is the imcompetance of the fans. Cassell was being booed mercilessly in the game where he got injured. Now again, booing Cassell might have made Cheat fan feel better, and true to form, the more they did it the worse Cassell played. But the question is who are they going to bring in? Brady Quinn? You have got to be kidding. Quinn is certainly worse.
So even if Cassell is cleared to play, and he very well may be, the Cheats cannot subject him to the ridicule of the home fans. They would be better off dealing him and getting something for him and tanking the season with Quinn.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
It’s just so hard to watch this guy run full speed into the backs of the oline all day. No patience, no moves, no broken tackles, nada!
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The Oline gets pushed backwards constantly. The same guys that looked pretty good last year. Is it coaching, injuries, scheme, all?
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
For all we know Mark Davis could FIRE some guys himself at the end of the season .. u never know. and u never know how D.A’s contract is written.
Im just saying DA is trying to win ball games.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I can’t believe #20 has turned into Fargas 2012. They said we go as far as McFadden goes. Well, we’re 2-4. We’re about 3 games late to go to a time share, but that’s exactly what DA should be demanding.
Get Goodsen and Jones in there for hell’s sake!! McFadden has proven that if there is nothing there he will get just that, nothing. Hell, sometimes when there is something there he still gets nothing.
It’s just so hard to watch this guy run full speed into the backs of the oline all day. No patience, no moves, no broken tackles, nada!
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That’s what I have been saying. The funniest part is they were running single back power plays for much of the game and he still did nothing.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
For all we know Mark Davis could FIRE some guys himself at the end of the season .. u never know. and u never know how D.A’s contract is written.
Im just saying DA is trying to win ball games.
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Mark’s not going to fire anyone. He saw, up close and personal, how his father’s imperious management destroyed the team. He’s not going to repeat this mistake.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
For all we know Mark Davis could FIRE some guys himself at the end of the season .. u never know. and u never know how D.A’s contract is written.
Im just saying DA is trying to win ball games.
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Mark’s not going to fire anyone. He saw, up close and personal, how his father’s imperious management destroyed the team. He’s not going to repeat this mistake.
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Too early to decide anything….but you’re completely wrong about Mark Davis inability to fire anyone after 1 season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Puss, I expected my update 5 minutes ago!
If I catch you slipping again I’ll appoint some other minion to take your place
You KNOW I gots to keep it real
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Carl,
I believe McFadden is a one trick pony. He’s awesome when the hole is there and then he can try to make a move or break a tackle in the secondary. But his vision and anticipation just are not any good. He get’s the ball and almost immediately puts his head down before he even gets to the line of scrimmage.
I watch way too much football and I see someone making plays out of nothing in EVERY game I watch.
I really like the kid but if the oline is struggling like this then put in Goodsen and Jones and let them create plays with their feet and vision.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Our biggest problem is Knapp.
The most unimaginative offense I have ever seen.
Not one misdirection play all game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Too early to decide anything….but you’re completely wrong about Mark Davis inability to fire anyone after 1 season.
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Hue Jackson was an unusual situation, to say the least. I don’t expect Reggie to try punking out Mark like Hue did.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Its not about Reggie. Its about Mark. He is the ultimate boss and what he says goes.
Like i said u never know what Mark might do or might not do.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Reggie is on thin ice the same the Coaching Staff is….
It will stay that way…..as it should….
These men do not do their jobs as well just under a sense relaxation…
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Lemme Axe you a question: Would you trade DMAC straight Up for Haloti Ngata right now?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Can someone take my little yappy dog out back.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Mikie,
No question!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
yes but why would Balt want DMAC for Ngata.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The Oline gets pushed backwards constantly. The same guys that looked pretty good last year. Is it coaching, injuries, scheme, all?
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And probably, their “Buy In”……Forget which O-lineman was being interviewed but he was being asked about the struggles with the zone scheme and he said something to the effect of…..”Yeah, I think it can work”….and…..”Most of the guys believe in it.”
That right there says HE himself doesn’t have total confidence in it “I think it can work.” Not, “I know it works.”
and “Most of the guys believe in it.”
So, you’re saying that not EVERYONE believes it will work or IS working huh?
That just REEKS of uncertainty and lack of confidence across the board. That’s huge fellas. you gotta believe in what your doing for your performance to reach the next level…..In ANYTHING you do in life.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
892.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Reggie is on thin ice the same the Coaching Staff is….
It will stay that way…..as it should….
These men do not do their jobs as well just under a sense relaxation…
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Laughable. The ice Reggie is standing on is thicker than the polar ice caps.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.
#20 is supposed to be ELITE, as in; McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Rice, Foster.
Tell me any of these guys would look this one dimensional playing with this oline.
He’s a hell of a pass blocker, I’ll give him that!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.
#20 is supposed to be ELITE, as in; McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Rice, Foster.
Tell me any of these guys would look this one dimensional playing with this oline.
He’s a hell of a pass blocker, I’ll give him that!
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Exactly. This season has laid bare that DMac is a good system back, but not “elite” by any measure.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
MikieG Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Lemme Axe you a question: Would you trade DMAC straight Up for Haloti Ngata right now?
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we had our chance to sign him when he was a restricted FA but we didnt want to lose our picks. we should have signed him picks be damned. being a GM seems easy to me why do they make the job harder than it is?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
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Speaking of which, MJD may be lost for the season with a Lisfranc. Gotta adjust one of my fantasy rosters if that’s true.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
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I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
we had our chance to sign him when he was a restricted FA but we didnt want to lose our picks. we should have signed him picks be damned. being a GM seems easy to me why do they make the job harder than it is?
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How do you figure that. The BEST you can do with an RFA is make an offer that his current club can match, in what world have the Raiders ever been more fiscally capable of signing a guy than the Ravens? Picks or no picks any offer we could have tendered would have easily been matched by the Ravens.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
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So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
DMAC = another top ten bust
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
892.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Reggie is on thin ice the same the Coaching Staff is….
It will stay that way…..as it should….
These men do not do their jobs as well just under a sense relaxation…
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Laughable. The ice Reggie is standing on is thicker than the polar ice caps.
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Then laugh it up…..
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
The injury is an interesting point bcz24.
A lot of us thought this is exactly what McFadden would be out of college. Straight line home run hitter that needed huge holes to get it done.
Looks like the same guy to me.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
we had our chance to sign him when he was a restricted FA but we didnt want to lose our picks. we should have signed him picks be damned. being a GM seems easy to me why do they make the job harder than it is?
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How do you figure that. The BEST you can do with an RFA is make an offer that his current club can match, in what world have the Raiders ever been more fiscally capable of signing a guy than the Ravens? Picks or no picks any offer we could have tendered would have easily been matched by the Ravens.
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you may be correct, so what is the situation where if you sign a guy you have to give up your picks?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.
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Looks an aweful lot like the same O-Line that allowed 12 QB knock-downs and almost 3 sack/fumbles yesterday.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Bcz
you are making way too much sense today.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
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So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
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Not in today’s NFL they are not….
In todays HS and college programs YES…in 1960’s and 70’s NFL YES….not today…
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
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So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
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HaHa!~ Its Voila–and you might be right. Im not saying they would want to get rid of Ngata–or that we would necessarily want to get rid of DMAC, but I do think that it would make both teams better in the long run. The Baltimore Defense is a shell of their former selves, they are going to need to outscore opponents from here on out, I don’t think Haloti is going to really make much of a difference for them anymore, however he would be HUGE for us, and they could use DMAC and we could get by with Goodson and Taiwan back there. DMAC isn’t going to do much in this offense fellas, were not using him right, or the lightbulb ain’t going on–either way, Im just saying, theoretically–at face value–I would like to see this trade if it were possible.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Plunkett,
I don’t think #20 is anywhere near being a bust. Let the little guys run around and wear the D down and get McFadden more into the passing game. Maybe even go so far as to make him the 3rd down back.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
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So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
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yes thats what I’m saying I believe he is tired of wasting his talent here ala Randy Moss. Rb lives are short in the nfl.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Is this the plan now?
Deal Darren McFadden?
Some of you people want to steer the conversation away from the GM and the Coaching Staff….
Good luck….
Mark Davis will fire Reggie McKenzie if he even dreams about dealing Darren McFadden…
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Reggie should trade McFadden if he gets a good deal.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
wow tom cable is a huge basketball fan
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nba-creates-reggie-miller-rule-order-punish-shooters-161207912–nba.html
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Reggie should trade McFadden if he gets a good deal.
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No deal could be good enough….NONE
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.
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Looks an aweful lot like the same O-Line that allowed 12 QB knock-downs and almost 3 sack/fumbles yesterday.
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Our offensive line was getting its collective ass kicked yesterday.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
MikieG Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
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So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
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HaHa!~ Its Voila–and you might be right. Im not saying they would want to get rid of Ngata–or that we would necessarily want to get rid of DMAC, but I do think that it would make both teams better in the long run. The Baltimore Defense is a shell of their former selves, they are going to need to outscore opponents from here on out, I don’t think Haloti is going to really make much of a difference for them anymore, however he would be HUGE for us, and they could use DMAC and we could get by with Goodson and Taiwan back there. DMAC isn’t going to do much in this offense fellas, were not using him right, or the lightbulb ain’t going on–either way, Im just saying, theoretically–at face value–I would like to see this trade if it were possible.
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why would BAL give up nagta and they already have ray rice? makes no sense for them.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Mark Davis will fire Reggie McKenzie if he even dreams about dealing Darren McFadden…
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And your evidence for this bizarre assertion?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
MikieG Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Lemme Axe you a question: Would you trade DMAC straight Up for Haloti Ngata right now?
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Why would Baltimore do that? They have Ray Rice.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Trading Herschall Walker worked out pretty well for the Cowboys.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
yes thats what I’m saying I believe he is tired of wasting his talent here ala Randy Moss. Rb lives are short in the nfl.
Difference…we all seen Randy Moss quit on this team. haven’t seen that yet from DMAC! Unless that is what you call his lackluster performance this year. however, why come out on the field?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
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Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
There is no doubt that the oline is getting pummeled on a regular basis this season.
BUT, if you get a guy like Taiwan Jones gashing the dline on draws and screens that instantly slows down the pass rush and we get back to actually having a play action game where defensive ends aren’t able to just blow off their contain and head straight for the QB.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
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That’s possible. But, since there are no holes for him it is hard to tell.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
That’s possible. But, since there are no holes for him it is hard to tell.
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Easy there ABP,
There have been many holes that have been missed in these games. Of course a guy is going to miss those occasionally but there have absolutely been holes for McFadden where he just plows into the first player he sees.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
we need big ugly picks dline oline we have enough pretty picks none of this qb cb stuff unless its late.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
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Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
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Why are you getting so angry?
Are you upset your argument makes no sense?
I don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
What’s the debate?
You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game. He operates best in a particular system (you wouldn’t like a purely cover 2 CB in a man scheme would you? We’ve seen what that looks like).
Ok, so we get an OC that installs plays this amazing talent can succeed with.
Then he procedes to run all over people.
He was off to a near-record breaking pace last year before injury.
So, of course, we would install a system he doesn’t fit into this year.
Some parts are interchangeable. Sometimes certain parts only fit in certain equipment, ya dig?
Why install an inferior scheme with superior talent?
Dumb.
ZBS is for teams that don’t have road graders and guys like DMC!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
yes thats what I’m saying I believe he is tired of wasting his talent here ala Randy Moss. Rb lives are short in the nfl.
Difference…we all seen Randy Moss quit on this team. haven’t seen that yet from DMAC! Unless that is what you call his lackluster performance this year. however, why come out on the field?
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show durability?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Now, I in no way want to get rid of #20. I hope that with some adjustments he can be utilized in the passing game and short yardage situations more. I pull for the kid every game and I’m sure he is extremely frustrated after the success of the last 2 years.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
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Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
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Why are you getting so angry?
Are you upset your argument makes no sense?
I don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
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Why? Because you make some moronic assumption about Mark Davis when you know nothing about him.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
932.eastoaklandraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
we need big ugly picks dline oline we have enough pretty picks none of this qb cb stuff unless its late.
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We wouldn’t even be discussing O Line woes if we had continuity from last year.
O Line was one of the team strengths. They were absolutely blowing holes wide open for DMC.
So DMC isn’t that patient, so he’s only a fit for a PBS scheme? Does he excell in that scheme? Then run it!
Knapp is beyon awful and DA was a fool for not knowing his team.
Hue got s#;t on quite often in here and all he ever did was give us something we haven’t had in 8 years prior — an offense!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
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That’s possible. But, since there are no holes for him it is hard to tell.
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Darren McFadden is not the issue.
The issue yesterday was Jacksonville put both of their outside LB’s up a couple yards off the LOS….kept their Mike at normal depth….
Every game the reason for their lack of success in the running game has been different….
The coaching staff is the issue….they have the drive….they have the intention….but right now I doubt whether or not we have the knowledge…
It starts with the GM….the GM hired his family and friends…..so there’s that!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
What’s the debate?
You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game. He operates best in a particular system (you wouldn’t like a purely cover 2 CB in a man scheme would you? We’ve seen what that looks like).
Ok, so we get an OC that installs plays this amazing talent can succeed with.
Then he procedes to run all over people.
He was off to a near-record breaking pace last year before injury.
So, of course, we would install a system he doesn’t fit into this year.
Some parts are interchangeable. Sometimes certain parts only fit in certain equipment, ya dig?
Why install an inferior scheme with superior talent?
Dumb.
ZBS is for teams that don’t have road graders and guys like DMC!!
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good point!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
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Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
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Why are you getting so angry?
Are you upset your argument makes no sense?
I don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
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Why? Because you make some moronic assumption about Mark Davis when you know nothing about him.
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There you go again with the insults…..do you feel they help your argument?
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
well on the bright side…..
we have all sold as many houses as KoolKell has this month !!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
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love me some buffalo wild wings !! that and an endless mug of beer an i am in heaven !!
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
932.eastoaklandraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
we need big ugly picks dline oline we have enough pretty picks none of this qb cb stuff unless its late.
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We wouldn’t even be discussing O Line woes if we had continuity from last year.
O Line was one of the team strengths. They were absolutely blowing holes wide open for DMC.
So DMC isn’t that patient, so he’s only a fit for a PBS scheme? Does he excell in that scheme? Then run it!
Knapp is beyon awful and DA was a fool for not knowing his team.
Hue got s#;t on quite often in here and all he ever did was give us something we haven’t had in 8 years prior — an offense!
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believe me your preaching to the choir on this one people here dont want to hear about Hue and what HE did last year so, I guess we need new Olinemen now.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DA has our dline stopping the run with the same personell that couldn’t. DA has our seemingly talentless corners covering. CP’s puttin up career #’s. Penalties are down. We added some power blocking. I now have faith he’ll make the changes necessary. We’re two winnable games away from being in first
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Knapp almost ruined DMC’s career last time around and he’s intent to do it again.
DA, don’t you watch football? Read about it? Talk to other football people??
I’m not saying keep Hue (though I would have preferred), I’m just saying keep what works.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Why? Because you make some moronic assumption about Mark Davis when you know nothing about him.
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There you go again with the insults…..do you feel they help your argument?
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No, but I’ve been around this blog long enough to know your an idiot.
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Do you guys really believe that RB’s in the NFL are only able to play in 1 system?? Do you think that DA has seen the success of the ZBS utilized all over the NFL and probably thought any good RB would be able to dominate within it? Do you believe that DA and Knapp would have ever believed that DMAC would have had this much trouble making reads and cuts??
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
So far….the worst component in the Raider organization is Reggie McKenzie….
That’s a FACT!
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Dumb f*ck statement by one of the blog’s biggest dumb f*cks.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I’m out until after the Bucs game…..got work to do….I wonder what our record will be on that day?
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
In One Word,
I agree with that much. DA doesn’t have his head completely in the sand. He has adjusted. Green sticker off 55’s helmet, more PBS stuff since bye, D geling (jelling? whatever).
But I think all that needed ‘fixing’ was the defense, where as the offense just needed a tune up.
It’s a shame Cp is playing so well without any run support to help him out.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Maurice JOnes Drew and Stephen Jackson are both UDFA next year
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Jackson is done. MJD might want to play in Oakland.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Do you believe that DA and Knapp would have ever believed that DMAC would have had this much trouble making reads and cuts??
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Knapp would.
Hey, I wouldn’t make Peterson a zone runner and I wouldn’t make a Clinton Portis a power guy.
Some guys are suited to certain schemes.
That’s why 3-4 and 4-3 OLBs aren’t interchangeable.
DMAC outruns the ZBS and doesn’t make multiple reads.
Plow open a lane and let the young man rumble. Problem solved, and I’d charge Reggie a lot less than Knapp for my advice.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
THey need to use Ausberry and REECE more. also get goodson in the back field and line up DMAC at WR if u have to.
DMAC still a playmaker
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
What’s the debate?
You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game.
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3.1 YPC does not make for the “best RB in the game,” or anything close to it.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I think we’ll continue to mix in more PBS and I think the run game will get going eventually. I also think, we should sub in Goodson more too, if nothing else than to keep opposing Ds honest and he’s a threat in the screen game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Duck,
I think you’re a good poster and a smart guy, so please don’t take offense when I say:
What was his average through the first six games in 2010 and 2011 with an OC with a brain?
Thanks.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
This blog cracks me up.
Our entire coaching staff blows.
Our GM is questionable.
Our o-line stinks.
Our WRs are marginal.
And what is the topic of discussion? McFadden. Our best player. A player that ran for 5.5 ypc the past two years, suddenly it is somehow his fault that everything Greg Knapp has changed has been a complete failure. It is his fault for being drafted by an inept organization.
Give me a fkin break.
Dumbest fans in America!
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Duck,
I think you’re a good poster and a smart guy, so please don’t take offense when I say:
What was his average through the first six games in 2010 and 2011 with an OC with a brain?
Thanks.
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Not sure. Don’t feel like doing the math. Here’s where I’m getting my numbers from:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McFaDa00.htm
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Hey, if we have fundamentally changed our philosophy as an organization for the long haul, then please do get at LEAST a #1 and a 3 or player for DMC, as we will have more success with a guy suited for the ZBS.
But in a year, when Knapp is fired for reasons not necessarily just regarding run scheme and we get a guy with half a brain as OC, we’ll all be kicking ourselves when DMC runs wild in NE.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
wow Maurice jones drew not has the same injury ford has and DMAC had last year. Crazy. they almost got tackled the same way DMAC did last year.. and like the foot gets rolled up
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RUE THE DAY, LOL.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
So far….the worst component in the Raider organization is Reggie McKenzie….
That’s a FACT!
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Dumb f*ck statement by one of the blog’s biggest dumb f*cks.
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The fact that you find it necessary to drum up one of my post’s about our GM from over a month ago “SCREAMS” more about “YOU” and “YOUR INTENTION” for being here than it ever could in your attempts to discredit me….
Pick on someone else buddy….while it is true you very well might know who I AM you have no idea WHAT I KNOW!
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
McFalldown is SOFT.
I feel SHAME when she runs out of bounds.
Just Win Baby.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
952.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Maurice JOnes Drew and Stephen Jackson are both UDFA next year
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I assume you mean Un-restricted FA’s as opposed to “Un-drafted” FA’s.
MJD has more left in the tank than Jackson, but Jackson is a beast and will remain so for at least a couple more yrs. i would guess.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
what do you “tape watchers” think about the oline? Veldheer didn’t get beat like this last year. Smith has gotten beat alot more than Barnes did last year. Are there holes for DMAC to run through? is it the oline talent, the oline coaching or the oline scheme? DMAC ran better with power, but we were still better than we are now pass blocking and running with Cable’s zbs, so what gives?
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
what do you “tape watchers” think about the oline? Veldheer didn’t get beat like this last year. Smith has gotten beat alot more than Barnes did last year. Are there holes for DMAC to run through? is it the oline talent, the oline coaching or the oline scheme? DMAC ran better with power, but we were still better than we are now pass blocking and running with Cable’s zbs, so what gives?
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A better question would be WHY DID COACH WIZ leave shortly before the start of the season?
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Lol, Dakota.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
McFadden is the problem?
Really? The same guy that averaged 5+ YPC the last 2 seasons?
Monkeys!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
A better question would be WHY DID COACH WIZ leave shortly before the start of the season?
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Cause nobody listened to him when he said “This sh*t ain’t gonna work Gents, and I won’t put my name on it.”
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
McFadden is not the problem. But, if you can get a good deal for him, trade him. He’s just wasting away with the Raiders.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Dwight Howard is a Laker.
AMC is back on Dish.
ND is on its way to a National Championship.
Life is guuuuuuud.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
972.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
McFadden is not the problem. But, if you can get a good deal for him, trade him. He’s just wasting away with the Raiders.
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This I agree with. It would be a shame to waste McFadden’s talents on this team while DA takes another season to figure out that Greg Knapp is a fktard.
Trade Palmer as well.
Someone mentioned the Jets…..hell yeah the Jets with Palmer and McFadden? That would be nice for both of those players.
No sense wasting players’ careers on imbecilic coaching staffs.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Let’s not blame the OC with history of being below average and an offense ranked in the 20’s with 4 different teams.
Let’s not blame the new scheme that doesn’t fit our OL and star RB.
Let’s not blame the poor OL play.
Blame the best player on the Team. DMAC.
Monkeys!!!!
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Trade Palmer as well.
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you’ll have mistic smiling ear to ear, even tho geno, russell wilson, cam and RGIII lost
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
“Stay in the moment”
-Bob Wylie-
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Coach-Wylie-Media-Session/c9b9bd0a-35ff-4115-9d61-7bc3bc66bfe9
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
787.RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Oakfoshow Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Pure luck.That d-pass interference call is what won this game.They looked absolutly lost out there in the first half,nobody seemed to know what the fk they were doing.Further evidence that Reggie screwed this team up and should be first to go.
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Reggie will be the GM of this team at least until the next Presidential election, and hopefully much longer.
Deal with it.
Ya see? This is the exact reason why I say “dumbest football fans in the world are on this blog”.Its not enough for you to see us BARELY 2-4.Its not enough to see this is not half the team we had last year.Your just plain to fkn stupid to understand any of this arent you? Stick with baseball,you dont belong in the Raider nation.The watermelon will be gone after the season,and I will be here to remind you all every chance I get.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
DMAC Says:
+ lots of fans went home after our horrible 1st half.
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Fake azz fans, like a lot of posters around here.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Wonder if Brady Quinn harbors a grudge about that 2007 draft.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Meanwhile, Oakfoshow aka “Dumb White Trash Cracker” is back…
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Seriously, Oakfoshow: Don’t comment on a football blog until you have something worthwhile to contribute. Not that you ever will…
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Raider O Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Let’s not blame the OC with history of being below average and an offense ranked in the 20’s with 4 different teams.
Let’s not blame the new scheme that doesn’t fit our OL and star RB.
Let’s not blame the poor OL play.
Blame the best player on the Team. DMAC.
Monkeys!!!!
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You’re saying our best player is a running back averaging 3.1 YPC?
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Hello people,first time poster here and not somebody with multiple “personalitys”he he. Anyways just had a comment about the San Diego cheaters using a sticky substance on a towel in the second half. Maybe it was their wad from the first half. He he
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Morons in here complaining about McFadden didn’t say a thing when he was averaging 5.5 yards per carry under the previous offensive coaching staff…..talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face lol.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Morons in here complaining about McFadden didn’t say a thing when he was averaging 5.5 yards per carry under the previous offensive coaching staff…..talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face lol.
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Again, this means he’s a good system back, but not an “elite” back. And he may not be right for our system.
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
What’s the debate?
You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game. He operates best in a particular system (you wouldn’t like a purely cover 2 CB in a man scheme would you? We’ve seen what that looks like).
Ok, so we get an OC that installs plays this amazing talent can succeed with.
Then he procedes to run all over people.
He was off to a near-record breaking pace last year before injury.
So, of course, we would install a system he doesn’t fit into this year.
Some parts are interchangeable. Sometimes certain parts only fit in certain equipment, ya dig?
Why install an inferior scheme with superior talent?
Dumb.
ZBS is for teams that don’t have road graders and guys like DMC!!
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Good fkin post. I was reading through some of the other post and couldn’t believe how clueless some fans are. Its not fkin rocket science, just look at the post from 3 years ago and alot of people were sayin the same thing about DMC and guess what scheme and offense we were running? Yep the same exact one we are running now. Now go look at the post from the last 2 years about DMC, totally different and I wonder why…….
Its the fkin scheme and oline not being coached up worth a schit. Romo and LO and Rod Woodson know it but some on here just like to think they no more and blah..blah..blah… well guess what, you don’t know schit
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Give every other NFL GM a chance to take one player off the Oakland Raiders roster, and 90% of them are taking McFadden…..and the others would only take a different player due to need.
He is far and away our most talented player.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Give every other NFL GM a chance to take one player off the Oakland Raiders roster, and 90% of them are taking McFadden…..and the others would only take a different player due to need.
He is far and away our most talented player
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Lol, I doubt after this season there will be many takers for DMAC. He’s just not that talented.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Raider O Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Let’s not blame the OC with history of being below average and an offense ranked in the 20’s with 4 different teams.
Let’s not blame the new scheme that doesn’t fit our OL and star RB.
Let’s not blame the poor OL play.
Blame the best player on the Team. DMAC.
Monkeys!!!!
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You’re saying our best player is a running back averaging 3.1 YPC?
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McFadden is our best player? He’s not even our best running back.
McFadden 103 Carries 324 yards
Goodson 11 Carries 89 yards
And if you take McFaddens one good run away, Goodson basically has half the production in ONE TENTH the work. But you guys are right it is everything BUT McFadden! It is blocking, the coaching, the fans, the football, the bolts holding up the stadium.
But hey, just for fun, let’s check out the passing stats:
McFadden 25 receptions for 167 yards
Goodson 8 receptions for 121 yards. Oh, and a TD.
So again, Goodson has almost as much production as McFadden with 33% of the workload. And a TD! And let’s not talk about how many drops McFadden has had.
But once again, you monkeys are right! He’s our best player.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
What’s the debate?
You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game
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Where do you get this – DMAC is possibly the best back in football??? Because he had two excellent games last season against teams in disarray???
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
989.RaidersOne Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Lol, I doubt after this season there will be many takers for DMAC. He’s just not that talented.
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Like I said….dumbest fans in America.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Now Mike Goodson is better than McFadden……smh….you poor dumbfks lol.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Yep bunch of clueless fans on this blog today
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Check DMAC’s stats against those of Marcus Allen in their first four seasons: DMAC has a third of the production, and has never been chosen MVP of a Superbowl.
DMAC is a good back, but not great and nowhere near elite.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Wow thanks for signing in to share that
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Now Mike Goodson is better than McFadden……smh….you poor dumbfks lol.
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Not saying he is better. But there is NO DOUBT he is much more productive. See, that’s the problem with most of you. You fall in love with certain players and they can do no wrong. And hate certain players, and they can do no right. See, I only fall in love with production. And hate lack of production. (See Seymour, and see McClain.)
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
989.RaidersOne Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Lol, I doubt after this season there will be many takers for DMAC. He’s just not that talented.
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Like I said….dumbest fans in America.
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Dakota,
We are not dumb. Peruse DMAC’s stats: stats are not dumb nor do they lie.
DMAC is just not that good. Even last season, DMAC had two great games, but the rest were mediocre because they were top tier teams and limited his running yards to about 50 per game.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
yes i have an agenda. saying dmac is an issue is like saying cp is our issue because he hasn’t been a winner. there are other circumstance involved. when goodson is in they aren’t sellin out on or worried about the run. is he a better zbs fit? maybe
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
When you plug other players in and they are more productive you can no longer blame the coaches, footballs, blocking, stadium bolts, etc. (See Russell, Jamarcus and Gradkowski, Bruce)
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Dakota,
We are not dumb. Peruse DMAC’s stats: stats are not dumb nor do they lie.
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Neither does the tape.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Goodson seems to do very well every time he touches the ball. Since DMAC is ineffective I have no idea why Big Head (Knapp) continues to use him over Goodson.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Now Mike Goodson is better than McFadden……smh….you poor dumbfks lol
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Not better…..But appears to be better suited for the zone.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Seymour Bush
See, that’s the problem with most of you. You fall in love with certain players and they can do no wrong. And hate certain players, and they can do no right. See, I only fall in love with production. And hate lack of production
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Excellent point.
Plus, what is more mysterious is how these worshipers claim something, and think it is true and that everyone will just accept their theory.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
You’re welcome plunk,guess it was funnier when I first thought of it
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Same McFadden hating crew as before. In here with an agenda because their DT wasn’t drafted in 2008.
McFadden made you look like fools under Hue, and so now it is pile time on McFadden because the knapp offense can’t run the ball.
You idiots didn’t learn your lesson last time?
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Same McFadden hating crew as before. In here with an agenda because their DT wasn’t drafted in 2008.
McFadden made you look like fools under Hue, and so now it is pile time on McFadden because the knapp offense can’t run the ball.
You idiots didn’t learn your lesson last time?
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We’re analyzing which running back is best for our team. Why are you taking this so personally? It’s not like any of us actually knows DMAC or something.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Where do I go to get a Goodson jersey?
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
OK gang welcome to the crazy crazy blog
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
R8eray Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Where do I go to get a Goodson jersey?
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Raiders.com.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Duck, I was just joking….smh!
Everyone and their momma are jumpin on that “vote for Goodson” campaign!
DMC is going nowhere!
99.9% of 31 teams out there would love to have a player like him!
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
I say trade dmac for the same reasons I said trade Nnamdi two years before he left
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
From Vic Tafur
Raiders coach Dennis Allen insists Darren McFadden has lost none of his explosiveness despite his early-season struggles.McFadden is averaging 3.15 yards per carry, well down from his 5.0-plus marks over the past two seasons. Allen insists the Raiders have tried to incorporate more “gap plays” to get McFadden going, although they obviously didn’t work against the Jaguars. McFadden was continually dropped before or at the line of scrimmage. Fantasy owners need to hold onto McFadden because he possesses the talent, workload, and schedule to catch fire during the second half
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Although OC Greg Knapp is still married to his zone-blocking scheme, he added a mix of one-back power runs during the Raiders’ bye week.”We did some more one-back power and we emphasized, instead of wide zone, we did some tight zone as change ups,” Knapp said. “But it was still a pretty good mix of both in (32) rushes.” Darren McFadden’s two longest runs were called back on holding penalties, and NFL Films analyst Greg Cosell noticed the Raiders ground attack finally “started to show signs of life as a sustaining element” at Atlanta. McFadden has perhaps the league’s softest run defense schedule the rest of the way. Oct 19 – 12:52 PM
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
are we an oline and a jj watt away from being the texans?
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Same McFadden hating crew as before. In here with an agenda because their DT wasn’t drafted in 2008.
McFadden made you look like fools under Hue, and so now it is pile time on McFadden because the knapp offense can’t run the ball.
You idiots didn’t learn your lesson last time?
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LOL, calm down my man. DMAC didn’t make anyone look like a fool under Hue. He barely gained 600 rushing yds for the season.
October 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Do you guys think maybe the new Cba and all its rules might have something to do with the running game not taking off ? I mean maybe not being able to practice the cut blocks, maybe McFadden is having trouble finding the cutback lane because he doesn’t know what it looks like in practice?
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 am
Talk about disaster not being averted in this game…the only bright spot was Janitor in the closet with that big leg. Otherwise this team will be in the basement for rest of the season. Why is the Raiders still last in the division its beacuse Mark Davis isn’t his dad in the hey-day. Granted Grandpa Al is resting peaceful to bad the Raiders aren’t.