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Raiders not sheepish about taking ‘ugly’ win

Just as the Raiders took no solace in an inspired effort in a 23-20 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, they aren’t the least bit worried about walking away from a 26-23 overtime victory against the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday.
“There’s no stealing in the NFL,” Raiders free safety Michael Huff said. “A win is a win. We’ll take it.”
They have no choice, actually. In the end, Huff is right, these are the kind of games the good teams find a way to win, and they don’t ask questions.
With the victory, the Raiders improved to 2-4 and moved within one game of the AFC West lead. The San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos are tied atop the division at 3-3 — the three other AFC West teams were idle Sunday.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said he and his players have every right to feel good about beating the Jaguars, even if they aren’t pleased with the route they took to get there.
“We feel good about winning,” Allen said. “That’s what you’re supposed to do in this league, you’re supposed to win games. Am I pleased with the way we played, especially in the first half? Absolutely not. We’ve got to play better.
“Anytime you get an opportunity to win in the National Football League. you can’t take that for granted. So, I’m happy that we won the football game.”
Quarterback Carson Palmer took the Falcons loss especially hard as a result of a pass he attempted that Asante Samuel intercepted and returned for a touchdown.
On Sunday, Palmer said is thrilled by the way the Raiders persevered in the face of adversity and emerged with an improbable victory.
“An ugly win’s better than a pretty loss, I know that,” Palmer said. “I’ve played this game long enough to know that just getting a win, finding any way to get a win… against a desperate team, a team that’s kicking onside kicks with a 14 point lead and changing things up.
“I’m just proud of the way we fought, because it wasn’t pretty. We did not play up to our standard and play the way we’re coached at times. Guys hung in there, the defense played great, got us the ball back. It’s just good to get out of here with a win.”

– The Jaguars entered the game last in the league with three sacks through five games. At times Sunday, their defensive linemen played like The Fearsome Foursome.
The Jaguars sacked Palmer twice, hit him six other times and spent most of the day keeping Palmer on the run.
Palmer and the offensive linemen said the Jaguars did a nice job of incorporating some new wrinkles into their scheme during the bye week. Those are things that didn’t show up on the video the Raiders watched of the Jaguars first five games.
“That was a desperate team,” Palmer said. “They needed a win and they did a lot of uncharacteristic things. They’re coming off a bye, they did some things that they hadn’t previously shown. We kept countering it on the sideline with the coaches and kept slowing them down.
“That front four doesn’t have a ton of sacks, but they get after the quarterback. They’re relentless and we did a good job up front in the second half especially giving us some time to get the ball to the outside and to the receivers.”
In the end, the Raiders offensive line did just enough and gave Palmer just enough time on certain downs for Palmer to get accomplished what he needed.
“We were expecting maybe some unscouted looks, but they really brought it,” Wisniewski said. “They brought the intensity, brought some different looks here and there. But there’s no excuse. We’ve got to be a lot better as an O-line and an offense.”
Allen echoed his offensive linemen when he said, there’s work to be done between now and next Sunday’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
“They won the battle up front, there’s no question about it,” Allen said of the Jaguars. “We weren’t able to run the ball effectively. We had too much pressure on the quarterback. That will be something that we will have to look at. We have to get that corrected moving forward.”

– The Raiders improved to 18-18 in overtime games all-time. This was their first overtime game this season.

– A 23-yard reception by rookie wide receiver Rod Streater late in the game enabled Allen to send on Sebastian Janikowski for a 64-yard field-goal attempt.
The kick would have given the Raiders the victory in regulation and Janikowski the NFL record for longest field goal made. He is one of four kickers with a 63-yarder.
As it turned out, Janikowski’s kick came up well short, with Aaron Ross catching the ball in the middle of the end zone and returning it past the Jaguars 30.

– You hear all the time about the Raiders getting the short end of the stick when it comes to the officiating. We likely won’t be hearing about that this week.
The Raiders benfitted from several questionable calls, including a pass interference on a fourth-and-10 play that preceeded their game-tying touchdown late in the fourth quarter.
There also was a pass interference called on a Jaguars receiver that thwarted a fourth-quarter drive, as well as a few others.
As one Raiders player said, “It felt good to be on the other side of those close calls for a change.”

– This was supposed to be the game the Raiders running game got untracked. After all, the Jaguars were 31st against the run at 163 yards per game and near the bottom at 4.7 yards per carry.
Not to be. Once again. The Raiders amassed 69 yards on 26 carries, with lead back Darren McFadden held to 53 yards on 19 carries (2.8-yard average).

– Outside linebacker credited a second-half turnaround to some fiery words from players in the locker room at halftime.
“There was a lot of cursing, a lot of, ‘We got to come through, we got to make a play. If we don’t make a play, we’re not going to win,’ ” Wheeler said. “Shoot, we came out and somebody said something in the locker room that hit with everybody and we just came out in synch.”
Whatever they said, it worked. The Jaguars managed only 54 yards offense and two field goals in the second half and overtime.
Palmer said offensive coordinator Greg Knapp tore into the offensive players, as well.
“Coach Knapp was not happy at halftime, so to speak,” Palmer said. “We had a great game plan coming in and we weren’t executing those (as) individuals. It starts with me being the quarterback. You got to execute and you got to execute the game plan.
“Coach Knapp let us have it, and we took it as almost a threat. He was all over us and sometimes you need that from your coach. He picked the right time. He doesn’t always do that but he picked the right time and let us have it and we came together and found ways to move the ball and found ways to score in the second half.”

– Once again, the Raiders defense fared well against the run.
On Sunday, they held the Jaguars to 54 yards on 26 carries. Sure, it helped that Jaguars lead back Maurice Jones-Drew left the game after only one series with a foot injury.
Still, the Raiders defense did an impressive job of hitting the ballcarrier soon after he touched the ball and not allowing him to get into the secondary. The Jaguars’ longest run netted 8 yards.

– The Raiders forced only one turnover, but it came at the right time.
On third-and-20 from their own 9-yard line, in overtime, Jaguars wide receiver Cecil Shorts hauled in a short pass from Chad Henne and headed downfield.
Shorts was met by defensive end Lamarr Houston, who separated the ball from Shorts, with cornerback Joselio Hanson falling on the ball.
“That’s the type of effort we’re looking for and those are the types of plays and type of effort we’re looking for, the guys that are going to give that type of effort on a down in and down out basis,” Allen said. “When he continues to play that way, he’ll continue to make plays.”
Houston said it’s just part of sticking with the play and finding a way to become part of the action.
“It’s guys closing to the ball,” Houston said, “and the wide receiver wasn’t paying attention to me and I was just running (to the ball) like I was coached. I ended up making a great play.”

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  • bcz24

    One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    SaintKaufman Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.
    #20 is supposed to be ELITE, as in; McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Rice, Foster.
    Tell me any of these guys would look this one dimensional playing with this oline.

    He’s a hell of a pass blocker, I’ll give him that!

    =============================================

    Exactly. This season has laid bare that DMac is a good system back, but not “elite” by any measure.

  • eastoaklandraider

    MikieG Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Lemme Axe you a question: Would you trade DMAC straight Up for Haloti Ngata right now?
    —————

    we had our chance to sign him when he was a restricted FA but we didnt want to lose our picks. we should have signed him picks be damned. being a GM seems easy to me why do they make the job harder than it is?

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.

    =============================================

    Speaking of which, MJD may be lost for the season with a Lisfranc. Gotta adjust one of my fantasy rosters if that’s true.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
    —————-
    I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.

  • bcz24

    we had our chance to sign him when he was a restricted FA but we didnt want to lose our picks. we should have signed him picks be damned. being a GM seems easy to me why do they make the job harder than it is?
    ********************
    How do you figure that. The BEST you can do with an RFA is make an offer that his current club can match, in what world have the Raiders ever been more fiscally capable of signing a guy than the Ravens? Picks or no picks any offer we could have tendered would have easily been matched by the Ravens.

  • bcz24

    I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
    ***********
    So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.

  • Plunketthead

    DMAC = another top ten bust

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    892.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    Reggie is on thin ice the same the Coaching Staff is….

    It will stay that way…..as it should….

    These men do not do their jobs as well just under a sense relaxation…
    *********
    Laughable. The ice Reggie is standing on is thicker than the polar ice caps.
    _______________________________________________

    Then laugh it up…..

  • SaintKaufman

    The injury is an interesting point bcz24.

    A lot of us thought this is exactly what McFadden would be out of college. Straight line home run hitter that needed huge holes to get it done.

    Looks like the same guy to me.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    we had our chance to sign him when he was a restricted FA but we didnt want to lose our picks. we should have signed him picks be damned. being a GM seems easy to me why do they make the job harder than it is?
    ********************
    How do you figure that. The BEST you can do with an RFA is make an offer that his current club can match, in what world have the Raiders ever been more fiscally capable of signing a guy than the Ravens? Picks or no picks any offer we could have tendered would have easily been matched by the Ravens.
    —————–
    you may be correct, so what is the situation where if you sign a guy you have to give up your picks?

  • theghostronin79

    SaintKaufman Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.

    ========

    Looks an aweful lot like the same O-Line that allowed 12 QB knock-downs and almost 3 sack/fumbles yesterday.

  • Plunketthead

    Bcz
    you are making way too much sense today.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
    ***********
    So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
    _______________________________________

    Not in today’s NFL they are not….

    In todays HS and college programs YES…in 1960′s and 70′s NFL YES….not today…

  • MikieG

    bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
    ***********
    So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
    +++++++++++
    HaHa!~ Its Voila–and you might be right. Im not saying they would want to get rid of Ngata–or that we would necessarily want to get rid of DMAC, but I do think that it would make both teams better in the long run. The Baltimore Defense is a shell of their former selves, they are going to need to outscore opponents from here on out, I don’t think Haloti is going to really make much of a difference for them anymore, however he would be HUGE for us, and they could use DMAC and we could get by with Goodson and Taiwan back there. DMAC isn’t going to do much in this offense fellas, were not using him right, or the lightbulb ain’t going on–either way, Im just saying, theoretically–at face value–I would like to see this trade if it were possible.

  • SaintKaufman

    Plunkett,
    I don’t think #20 is anywhere near being a bust. Let the little guys run around and wear the D down and get McFadden more into the passing game. Maybe even go so far as to make him the 3rd down back.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
    ***********
    So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
    —————

    yes thats what I’m saying I believe he is tired of wasting his talent here ala Randy Moss. Rb lives are short in the nfl.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    Is this the plan now?

    Deal Darren McFadden?

    Some of you people want to steer the conversation away from the GM and the Coaching Staff….

    Good luck….

    Mark Davis will fire Reggie McKenzie if he even dreams about dealing Darren McFadden…

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    Reggie should trade McFadden if he gets a good deal.

  • mcfadden20.
  • backstageatapuppetshow

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Reggie should trade McFadden if he gets a good deal.

    ___________________________________________________

    No deal could be good enough….NONE

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    theghostronin79 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    SaintKaufman Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    I’m done with this oline bs being the reason we can’t run the ball.

    ========

    Looks an aweful lot like the same O-Line that allowed 12 QB knock-downs and almost 3 sack/fumbles yesterday.
    =========================================

    Our offensive line was getting its collective ass kicked yesterday.

  • eastoaklandraider

    MikieG Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    I have a sneaking suspension that if we traded DMAC he would “WHALLA” be an elite back again.
    ***********
    So what are you saying? Dmac just doesn’t want to be here? You can’t say he is elite, and then say he isn’t performing because of the system. Thats crap. Elite backs are elite no matter the system.
    +++++++++++
    HaHa!~ Its Voila–and you might be right. Im not saying they would want to get rid of Ngata–or that we would necessarily want to get rid of DMAC, but I do think that it would make both teams better in the long run. The Baltimore Defense is a shell of their former selves, they are going to need to outscore opponents from here on out, I don’t think Haloti is going to really make much of a difference for them anymore, however he would be HUGE for us, and they could use DMAC and we could get by with Goodson and Taiwan back there. DMAC isn’t going to do much in this offense fellas, were not using him right, or the lightbulb ain’t going on–either way, Im just saying, theoretically–at face value–I would like to see this trade if it were possible.
    —————-
    why would BAL give up nagta and they already have ray rice? makes no sense for them.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Mark Davis will fire Reggie McKenzie if he even dreams about dealing Darren McFadden…

    ===========================================

    And your evidence for this bizarre assertion?

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    MikieG Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Lemme Axe you a question: Would you trade DMAC straight Up for Haloti Ngata right now?
    —–
    Why would Baltimore do that? They have Ray Rice.

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    Trading Herschall Walker worked out pretty well for the Cowboys.

  • hwnrdr

    yes thats what I’m saying I believe he is tired of wasting his talent here ala Randy Moss. Rb lives are short in the nfl.

    Difference…we all seen Randy Moss quit on this team. haven’t seen that yet from DMAC! Unless that is what you call his lackluster performance this year. however, why come out on the field?

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
    ——
    Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU

  • SaintKaufman

    There is no doubt that the oline is getting pummeled on a regular basis this season.

    BUT, if you get a guy like Taiwan Jones gashing the dline on draws and screens that instantly slows down the pass rush and we get back to actually having a play action game where defensive ends aren’t able to just blow off their contain and head straight for the QB.

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
    ——
    That’s possible. But, since there are no holes for him it is hard to tell.

  • SaintKaufman

    That’s possible. But, since there are no holes for him it is hard to tell.
    (((((((((((((())))))))))))))))
    Easy there ABP,
    There have been many holes that have been missed in these games. Of course a guy is going to miss those occasionally but there have absolutely been holes for McFadden where he just plows into the first player he sees.

  • eastoaklandraider

    we need big ugly picks dline oline we have enough pretty picks none of this qb cb stuff unless its late.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
    ——
    Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
    ____

    Why are you getting so angry?

    Are you upset your argument makes no sense?

    I don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.

  • LA to TheBay

    What’s the debate?

    You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game. He operates best in a particular system (you wouldn’t like a purely cover 2 CB in a man scheme would you? We’ve seen what that looks like).

    Ok, so we get an OC that installs plays this amazing talent can succeed with.

    Then he procedes to run all over people.

    He was off to a near-record breaking pace last year before injury.

    So, of course, we would install a system he doesn’t fit into this year.

    Some parts are interchangeable. Sometimes certain parts only fit in certain equipment, ya dig?

    Why install an inferior scheme with superior talent?

    Dumb.

    ZBS is for teams that don’t have road graders and guys like DMC!!

  • eastoaklandraider

    Hwnrdr Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    yes thats what I’m saying I believe he is tired of wasting his talent here ala Randy Moss. Rb lives are short in the nfl.

    Difference…we all seen Randy Moss quit on this team. haven’t seen that yet from DMAC! Unless that is what you call his lackluster performance this year. however, why come out on the field?
    —————

    show durability?

  • SaintKaufman

    Now, I in no way want to get rid of #20. I hope that with some adjustments he can be utilized in the passing game and short yardage situations more. I pull for the kid every game and I’m sure he is extremely frustrated after the success of the last 2 years.

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
    ——
    Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
    ____

    Why are you getting so angry?

    Are you upset your argument makes no sense?

    I don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
    ——-
    Why? Because you make some moronic assumption about Mark Davis when you know nothing about him.

  • LA to TheBay

    932.eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    we need big ugly picks dline oline we have enough pretty picks none of this qb cb stuff unless its late.

    —————–

    We wouldn’t even be discussing O Line woes if we had continuity from last year.

    O Line was one of the team strengths. They were absolutely blowing holes wide open for DMC.

    So DMC isn’t that patient, so he’s only a fit for a PBS scheme? Does he excell in that scheme? Then run it!

    Knapp is beyon awful and DA was a fool for not knowing his team.

    Hue got s#;t on quite often in here and all he ever did was give us something we haven’t had in 8 years prior — an offense!

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    bcz24 Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    One thing no one has brought up is Dmac’s foot injury from last year… maybe he just isn’t the same guy. The Lisfranc has ended careers before.
    ——
    That’s possible. But, since there are no holes for him it is hard to tell.
    _________________________

    Darren McFadden is not the issue.

    The issue yesterday was Jacksonville put both of their outside LB’s up a couple yards off the LOS….kept their Mike at normal depth….

    Every game the reason for their lack of success in the running game has been different….

    The coaching staff is the issue….they have the drive….they have the intention….but right now I doubt whether or not we have the knowledge…

    It starts with the GM….the GM hired his family and friends…..so there’s that!

  • eastoaklandraider

    LA To TheBay Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    What’s the debate?

    You have DMC, possibly the best RB in the game. He operates best in a particular system (you wouldn’t like a purely cover 2 CB in a man scheme would you? We’ve seen what that looks like).

    Ok, so we get an OC that installs plays this amazing talent can succeed with.

    Then he procedes to run all over people.

    He was off to a near-record breaking pace last year before injury.

    So, of course, we would install a system he doesn’t fit into this year.

    Some parts are interchangeable. Sometimes certain parts only fit in certain equipment, ya dig?

    Why install an inferior scheme with superior talent?

    Dumb.

    ZBS is for teams that don’t have road graders and guys like DMC!!
    —————–

    good point!

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Mark seems like a nice guy….but he has a alter ego….just like his Father!
    ——
    Are you guys friends. Do you go to Lakers games together and hang out Buffalo Wild Wings? STFU
    ____

    Why are you getting so angry?

    Are you upset your argument makes no sense?

    I don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
    ——-
    Why? Because you make some moronic assumption about Mark Davis when you know nothing about him.
    ___________________

    There you go again with the insults…..do you feel they help your argument?

  • R8ER MIKE

    well on the bright side…..
    we have all sold as many houses as KoolKell has this month !!

  • R8ER MIKE

    don’t go to Laker games and don’t like Buffalo Wings.
    ******************************************************
    love me some buffalo wild wings !! that and an endless mug of beer an i am in heaven !!

  • eastoaklandraider

    LA To TheBay Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    932.eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    we need big ugly picks dline oline we have enough pretty picks none of this qb cb stuff unless its late.

    —————–

    We wouldn’t even be discussing O Line woes if we had continuity from last year.

    O Line was one of the team strengths. They were absolutely blowing holes wide open for DMC.

    So DMC isn’t that patient, so he’s only a fit for a PBS scheme? Does he excell in that scheme? Then run it!

    Knapp is beyon awful and DA was a fool for not knowing his team.

    Hue got s#;t on quite often in here and all he ever did was give us something we haven’t had in 8 years prior — an offense!
    —————

    believe me your preaching to the choir on this one people here dont want to hear about Hue and what HE did last year so, I guess we need new Olinemen now.

  • inonewordraider

    DA has our dline stopping the run with the same personell that couldn’t. DA has our seemingly talentless corners covering. CP’s puttin up career #’s. Penalties are down. We added some power blocking. I now have faith he’ll make the changes necessary. We’re two winnable games away from being in first

  • LA to TheBay

    Knapp almost ruined DMC’s career last time around and he’s intent to do it again.

    DA, don’t you watch football? Read about it? Talk to other football people??

    I’m not saying keep Hue (though I would have preferred), I’m just saying keep what works.

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    Why? Because you make some moronic assumption about Mark Davis when you know nothing about him.
    ___________________

    There you go again with the insults…..do you feel they help your argument?
    ——-
    No, but I’ve been around this blog long enough to know your an idiot.

  • SaintKaufman

    Do you guys really believe that RB’s in the NFL are only able to play in 1 system?? Do you think that DA has seen the success of the ZBS utilized all over the NFL and probably thought any good RB would be able to dominate within it? Do you believe that DA and Knapp would have ever believed that DMAC would have had this much trouble making reads and cuts??

  • http:///Albert_B_Paine Albert Bigelow Paine

    backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    September 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    So far….the worst component in the Raider organization is Reggie McKenzie….

    That’s a FACT!
    ——
    Dumb f*ck statement by one of the blog’s biggest dumb f*cks.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    I’m out until after the Bucs game…..got work to do….I wonder what our record will be on that day?

    ;)