turn the game off when it got to 14-0 offense looked like sh1t and couldnt watch anymore

funny to see the excuses people make for cp “its the that line sux”"its the wr” “its the lack of run game” or maybe the qb sux too

if cp on pace to throw for 4000yds hes not throwing to himself so wr must be catching and he must have time to throw the ball to hit that pace of 4000 yd

the line and wr are serviceable they are not the best but they should be enough

Just Fire Baby Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:49 am

the article should have said that palmer is having a career yardage year.

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So now we don’t value passing yards as much?

What happened, I though EVERYONE was looking up at Cam Newton for his rookie year, due to his passing yards?

You didn’t seem to value passing TD’s or W-L record when making those evaulations.

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Same with you, I am discussing the above article, you counter with newton. laughable.

When a rookie sets all time records for a leauge that is over 90 years old and passes all of the greatest names in history it is a big deal.

A 10 year vet doing what has already been done before by mnay qbs, and failing to back it up with wins simply isnt that impressive. Especially when you consider that palmer is only middle of the pack, and if you look at his total body of work it is down right paltry as a raider.

this season 2-4 7 tds 7 turn overs

as a raider 6-10 2-4 in division play, 24 turn overs in 16 games, including 3 pick six’s.

Sorry but palmers yardage total this season isnt enough to validate the trade.

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Only an idiot would keep on bringing last year to prove his points.. yet f8kkin never mentions his last game in week 17. the guy played one of the best games for any QB in week 17 and still lost , so lemme see why they lost? oh must be his fault again? He didn’t fire up the D?

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Issue is the team not having the defense to get off the field on 3rd down, giving up key players who were overpriced, and having no draft picks to develop and establish depth.

They were lucky to finish how they finished 8-8, the last two years – the main thing is that they keep fighting, and stop the recent trend of not making adjustments in the 3rd quarter – they dodged a bullet again by knocking Gabbert out last week….he was on a pace to get the Jags to win handily.

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What these brain surgeons dont get it is…

1. Who would’ve been taken with the draft pick we gave up? – whos going to be in the SECOND ROUND of the 2013 draft? – we wouldve finished 2011 with Kyle Boller at QB?!

2. We are 24th in points per game, blah blah – who was the last QB to get the Raiders to the Super Bowl? A veteran, Rich Gannon.The last QB before then? A supposedly washed up Jim Plunkett.

3. Ya think coaching turnover and an absolute bust, JaMarcus Russell, might be too much for even Carson Palmer to overcome? – Hell, Tom Brady wouldnt be getting wins with the rest of THIS particular team and scheme.

4. the other factor is; hey, WHY NOT IMPROVE the defense, to go along with the projected 4,000 yards Palmer will throw for?

5. we went 8-8 back-to-back following a first round bust – most teams NEVER recovered from bust QBs (most notably the Cleveland Browns, and to a certain degree, the KC Chiefs. – who we still swept even in bad years.

We lost to Buffalo 38-35.
We lost to Detroit 28-27.
We lost to SD 38-26.

Those are all games where our O scored enough to win, but our D just couldn’t make a stop to save their lives. If they had made a critical stop in any of those games, we go to the playoffs.

If you really think Palmer is the problem here, you are incredibly clueless. He may not be a Rodgers or Brees, but he also doesn’t have the surrounding cast of players and coaches that they do, and he is definitely better than a lot of starting QBs in this league.

As to our pathetic offense this year, the offensive personnel is mostly the same as it was last year, so to me that points towards bad coaching. I know it takes time to adjust to a new system, so it’s possible they get this thing on track, but after 11 years of losing, I am sick of being patient.

Now, if you really think that because the running numbers are so poor, this means that teams aren’t respecting the play-action-pass, you are wrong. Every team so far has stopped run first, second, and third, and it leaves the TE and WRs in much better shape to make the routine plays that Palmer throws their way. Granted, CP has played well in tough situations, but he has also faltered in almost every game in critical situations that cost the team points, sometimes a large point-swing (not scoring while leading to points for the other team).

I’m not laying the 2-4 start solely at the feet of CP, I’m simply pointing out that his numeric success is a direct result of defenses picking their poison and selling out to shut down DMAC against an offensive gameplan that works against his strengths anyway.

DMAC led the league in 2010 and the first 6 games of 2011 in YPC and explosive plays — runs of 20+, 30+, and 40+ yards that flip field position and lead to points. He is not the grinder that a lot of backs are, but he is more dangerous and can flip the field and scoreboard in a blink of an eye. He has the same danger factor as a receiver, and every week you see defenses selling out to make sure he is blanketed.

I can’t tell you how many times this has led to a wide open Brandon Myers, or a WR with cleaner receiving lanes. DMAC has cleared out a lot for this offense, not to mention the consistently solid blocking to keep CP clean in the pocket.

If you are a defenisve coordinator, what is your gameplan to stop the Raiders? Load up on DMAC and make an aging, never-elite CP and a host of young/unproven WRs and TEs beat you, or what?