Bryant out, three others good to go
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, October 25th, 2012 at 12:06 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive end Desmond Bryant is not practicing today, likely because of an elbow injury he suffered against the Jaguars. However, wide receiver Juron Criner, defensive end Matt Shaughnessy and safety Mike Mitchell are on the field one day after getting hurt in practice.
Bryant likely is being held out as a precautionary measure, given he practiced in a limited fashion Wednesday. I would expect to see him play Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Overall, the Raiders are relatively healthy for this point in the season, even though 19 players appeared on the injury report.
Two of those, right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) and cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot), did not participate. Eleven of the 19 were able to practice in a limited capacity. The six others made it through the entire practice.
– Linebacker Aaron Curry is participating in his fifth straight practice since he was removed from the physically unable to perform list.
Coach Dennis Allen didn’t rule out the possibility of activating Curry to the 53-man roster, one of three options available to the Raiders during the 21-day evaluation period for Curry.
“We’ll wait until the end of the week and we’ll make a decision at the end of the week if we need to do something as far as activating him,” Allen said.
– For clarification’s sake, cornerback Ron Bartell is eligible to resume practicing Saturday. He is eligible to play in a game as soon as Nov. 11, when the Raiders play the Baltimore Ravens.
Bartell has been out since he suffered a shoulder injury in the regular-season opener. The Raiders placed him on the injured-reserve list, designated to return this season — teams are permitted to use this designation once per season as part of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement
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October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
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2 mistresses
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3 girl friends
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Cinco senoritas smoking 5 blunts
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October 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Stop the madness
October 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Nothing much, just having a good laugh w/ Kell.
He seems pretty upset though.
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Only bootlickers like you aren’t upset when the Raiders are losing.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
At least 10 idiot residents on this board.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Thec Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Thec Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:59 am
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Thec
What up dawg?!
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Same story… Whats good with ya?
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Nothing much, just having a good laugh w/ Kell.
He seems pretty upset though.
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Kell is cool, unlike some of the idiots. Give my dude a break.
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I never talk schit to Kell, but I see why so many people do.
It’s fk’n hilarious.
He’s cool w/ me though.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
nipp is not going to play CRINER anyway so its moot.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
You People can take our 2-4 record and blame JC all you want. It’s besides the point.
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Palmer is not to be blamed for the 2-4 record.. the guy is playing out of his mind with that Oline .. no running support.. you guys saw last week? NO fuking running game and no freaking pass protection.. the guy kept getting knocked to the ground every freakin play and still led us to a win , not many qb’s do that , no matter how freakin bad the other team sucks
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Bingo.
I said I was going to bounce, but my chic is still busy getting ready so I couldnt pass up the opportunity to quote McFadden20 and give him props because he’s spot on.
If you disagree with his post, you ARE DEFINITELY a moron and should STFU.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
1 wife
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
2 mistresses
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
3 girl friends
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
4 hoes
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Cinco senoritas smoking 5 blunts
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
6 sexy ladies
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
7 sluts
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Dumbass.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Get healthy “false start” Barnes!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
1 wife
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
2 mistresses
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
3 girl friends
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
4 hoes
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Cinco senoritas smoking 5 blunts
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
6 sexy ladies
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
7 sluts
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Dumbass.
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Shut your mouth Gonzo!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
1 wife
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
2 mistresses
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
3 girl friends
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
4 hoes
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Cinco senoritas smoking 5 blunts
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
6 sexy ladies
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
7 sluts
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Dumbass Troll.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Nothing much, just having a good laugh w/ Kell.
He seems pretty upset though.
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Only bootlickers like you aren’t upset when the Raiders are losing.
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I show my support every home game. Where you be at?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Just for clarification, Shantae Spencer is out for the year right? No chance of him coming back?
I was under the impression that one of our CBs was not coming back and from the above article, it looks like Bartell is for sure going to be back at some point?
With Huff playing so well, and Lee and Hansen slowly coming on. There is a slight glimmer of hope for our secondary after all. They are officially no longer the weakest part of our team. That mark falls on our O-Line at the moment.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I show my support every home game. Where you be at?
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Ignorant assz Troll.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Just for clarification, Shantae Spencer is out for the year right? No chance of him coming back?
I was under the impression that one of our CBs was not coming back and from the above article, it looks like Bartell is for sure going to be back at some point?
With Huff playing so well, and Lee and Hansen slowly coming on. There is a slight glimmer of hope for our secondary after all. They are officially no longer the weakest part of our team. That mark falls on our O-Line at the moment.
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I think we will see them both by mid Nov
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
O-line will be better w/ Barnes in there.
WTF is up w/ Bergs? Dude sill ain’t ready?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Kell is cool, unlike some of the idiots.
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He’s definitely on the good side of politics.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Same with you, I am discussing the above article, you counter with newton. laughable.
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I didn’t counter with Cam Newton, but an example of your flawed logic that is not consistant, and double-talk that you have between white and black QB’s.
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you are ridculous
i was discussing the article on palmer validating the trade, which he clealry has not taken us to the playoffs.
You countered with cam newton talking about how i was impressed with his rookies season and passing totals. Cam was a rookie and what he did HAD NEVER BEEN DONE IN HISTORY!!! Not just the passing yards BUT THE TD TOTALS!!!
Plamer is a 10 year vet, he isnt setting any records. 4 000 yards has been done before, it isnt coupled wuith td records, and certainly not wins.
Dont lie jfb, the only double standard in play is rookie making history, and a 10 year vet doing what has been done many times.
dont be a jack ass
October 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Hey Gonzo
How many fk’n lines of coke have you sniffed off your corvetes dash board?
Straight 8 ballz!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Mistic,
Who is our QB now in your world?
What would you have done?
Gimme a name?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
You People can take our 2-4 record and blame JC all you want. It’s besides the point.
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Palmer is not to be blamed for the 2-4 record.. the guy is playing out of his mind with that Oline .. no running support.. you guys saw last week? NO fuking running game and no freaking pass protection.. the guy kept getting knocked to the ground every freakin play and still led us to a win , not many qb’s do that , no matter how freakin bad the other team sucks
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Bingo.
I said I was going to bounce, but my chic is still busy getting ready so I couldnt pass up the opportunity to quote McFadden20 and give him props because he’s spot on.
If you disagree with his post, you ARE DEFINITELY a moron and should STFU.
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Thank you, it’s because of fellow fans like you with great insight why this blog is successful, trolls and sum few others who can’t get over their favorite player and coach not being retained are ruining this blog… We need to keep talking knowledgeable football stuff in here or trolls will 1 day take over this blog for good
October 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
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October 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Same with you, I am discussing the above article, you counter with newton. laughable.
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I didn’t counter with Cam Newton, but an example of your flawed logic that is not consistant, and double-talk that you have between white and black QB’s.
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you are ridculous
i was discussing the article on palmer validating the trade, which he clealry has not taken us to the playoffs.
You countered with cam newton talking about how i was impressed with his rookies season and passing totals. Cam was a rookie and what he did HAD NEVER BEEN DONE IN HISTORY!!! Not just the passing yards BUT THE TD TOTALS!!!
Plamer is a 10 year vet, he isnt setting any records. 4 000 yards has been done before, it isnt coupled wuith td records, and certainly not wins.
Dont lie jfb, the only double standard in play is rookie making history, and a 10 year vet doing what has been done many times.
dont be a jack ass
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I say 4,000 is pretty impressive when you have no running game and no pass protection and about average receivers to throw to , don’t you think so?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
31% conversion rate on 3rd down.
Ineffective in the Red Zone.
2-4.
Like I said I blame mostly Knapp. But Elite QB, Career Year?
Gtfo.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Snb666’s account hijacked by spammers?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Hey Gonzo
How many fk’n lines of coke have you sniffed off your corvetes dash board?
Straight 8 ballz!
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lol lol lol… come on DMAC, you think his wife would give him money for coke ??? lol lol lol
October 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Cam Newton is 1-6 in his last 7 starts. Based on what people in here say, the Panthers should waive him by 5pm today.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Put Brady, Rodgers or Manning on the Raiders and we still have the same record.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Cam Newton is 1-6 in his last 7 starts. Based on what people in here say, the Panthers should waive him by 5pm today.
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That’s a damned lie, who said that?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
C’mon Kell
Have a little sense of humor.
You know I’ve never attacked you on the blog before.
Just having a good laugh. Thats all.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
31% conversion rate on 3rd down.
Ineffective in the Red Zone.
2-4.
Like I said I blame mostly Knapp. But Elite QB, Career Year?
Gtfo.
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I’ll say that’s a pretty good conversion rate, when you’re trying to get first downs throwing to average receivers and standing behind that O-line which won’t even allow enough time for receivers to run the route to the first yard line on 3rd and longs
October 25th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Morilla Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Put Brady, Rodgers or Manning on the Raiders and we still have the same record.
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You don’t know that. And putting Palmer in their class is ridiculous. He’s a career 86 passer rating guy.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Palmer is actually on pace for 4600 yards, a damn sight better than 4000, and 5000 is in reach.
19 tds.
11 ints.
Whats that name Mistic, seriously?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
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mistic says
I am discussing the above article, you counter with newton. laughable.
When a rookie sets all time records for a leauge that is over 90 years old and passes all of the greatest names in history it is a big deal.
A 10 year vet doing what has already been done before by mnay qbs, and failing to back it up with wins simply isnt that impressive. Especially when you consider that palmer is only middle of the pack, and if you look at his total body of work it is down right paltry as a raider.
this season 2-4 7 tds 7 turn overs
as a raider 6-10 2-4 in division play, 24 turn overs in 16 games, including 3 pick six’s.
Sorry but palmers yardage total this season isnt enough to validate the trade.
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Only an idiot would keep on bringing last year to prove his points.. yet f8kkin never mentions his last game in week 17. the guy played one of the best games for any QB in week 17 and still lost , so lemme see why they lost? oh must be his fault again? He didn’t fire up the D?
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You are obviously ridding the short yellow school bus.
The article was about palmer validating the trade. Therfore we have to consider what took place last year when we are determinig if it was worth the price? he was brought here to take us to the playoffs LAST YEAR DUMMY!!!! So of course that becomes part of the equation.
I took it further and said i would wait until mid season this year before making my decsion on if i felt it was worth it. well if you look at this season alone it isnt good enough 2-4 7 tds 7 turnovers.
look at last year alone it was not good enough. 4-6 17 turnovers in 9 games.
Look at it in total, it isnt good enough 6-10 24 turnovers in 16 games with 3 for pick 6.
Only you and other dummies want to erase certain games as if they never happened or talk about 1 game as if it was all that happened.
Pull your head out of carsons ass, and look at the big picture. His total time with the raiders ahs not been good, braking into season has not been very good, we will not sniff the playoffs. the deal is a bust. end of story worst trade in sports history
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
C’mon Kell
Have a little sense of humor.
You know I’ve never attacked you on the blog before.
Just having a good laugh. Thats all.
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That’s a damned lie too. You’re trying to argue with me, but you’re unequipped. So you hurl insults.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Kell, are you even a Raider fan? Anyone can run the “I’ve been watching the Raiders for 70 years” copout. It’s because it’s local, and on TV. And yeah, we all know about you chasing Randy Moss through Safeways parking lot, while he easily sprinted away from the “portly wacko” that chased him like a groupy.
Question is, are you even a Raider fan?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I show my support every home game. Where you be at?
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Ignorant assz Troll.
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Kell goes berry picking on Sundays.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Kell, are you even a Raider fan? Anyone can run the “I’ve been watching the Raiders for 70 years” copout. It’s because it’s local, and on TV. And yeah, we all know about you chasing Randy Moss through Safeways parking lot, while he easily sprinted away from the “portly wacko” that chased him like a groupy.
Question is, are you even a Raider fan?
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Who are you, a cross posting btch?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Kell,
that 86 is 18th best of ALL-TIME
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Morilla Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Put Brady, Rodgers or Manning on the Raiders and we still have the same record.
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You don’t know that. And putting Palmer in their class is ridiculous. He’s a career 86 passer rating guy.
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You just don’t get it. Those guys have top flight teams and surrounding casts. not to mention balanced attacks and offensive philosophies.
The Raiders running game is absolutely a turd floating in the bowl along with shotty o-line protection and play calling.
Again, Cp is the only one on offense making things happen.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
C’mon Kell
Have a little sense of humor.
You know I’ve never attacked you on the blog before.
Just having a good laugh. Thats all.
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That’s a damned lie too. You’re trying to argue with me, but you’re unequipped. So you hurl insults.
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I don’t argue on a blog. I’m just trying to kill time for work.
If you were insulted, than I apologize.
I have no beef on a blog.
lol
October 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota Says: Jay Schroeder had a better arm and deep ball than Eli….doesn’t make him a better QB. =======
Two Jay Schroeder references in one day? Where’d that come from?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Mistic,
Who is our QB now in your world?
What would you have done?
Gimme a name?
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you mean the real world?
sorry kid im not into dungeons and dragons, i dont play make believe.
palmer is the qb, he hasnt delivered the goods the trade is a flop
October 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
The resident Niners troll questioning someone’s Raiders allegiance. Too funny.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Kell,
that 86 is 18th best of ALL-TIME
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Dumb, Dumb, Dumb and Dumber.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Morilla Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Put Brady, Rodgers or Manning on the Raiders and we still have the same record.
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You don’t know that. And putting Palmer in their class is ridiculous. He’s a career 86 passer rating guy.
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Brett Favre also has a 86.0 career passer rating. What’s your point?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Carson Palmer has a career QB rating that is 10 points higher than Ken Stabler.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I didn’t think so Mystic.
No real solutions are your end, or even a thought that would have prevented the trade and brought us a capable QB.
There is no reason to validate anything to you.
You can’t even back up your opinion with a solution that would have prevented the dreaded trade.
Your a fake….
October 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
LOL, I haven’t heard that in awhile…
Yes, I am upset about being 2-4, but I do not let sports ruin my life…
If I did, Verlander would have made me go psycho TWICE! Like that episode of Family guy where Margot Kidder goes crazy and jumps out the window…
October 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
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mistic says
I am discussing the above article, you counter with newton. laughable.
When a rookie sets all time records for a leauge that is over 90 years old and passes all of the greatest names in history it is a big deal.
A 10 year vet doing what has already been done before by mnay qbs, and failing to back it up with wins simply isnt that impressive. Especially when you consider that palmer is only middle of the pack, and if you look at his total body of work it is down right paltry as a raider.
this season 2-4 7 tds 7 turn overs
as a raider 6-10 2-4 in division play, 24 turn overs in 16 games, including 3 pick six’s.
Sorry but palmers yardage total this season isnt enough to validate the trade.
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Only an idiot would keep on bringing last year to prove his points.. yet f8kkin never mentions his last game in week 17. the guy played one of the best games for any QB in week 17 and still lost , so lemme see why they lost? oh must be his fault again? He didn’t fire up the D?
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You are obviously ridding the short yellow school bus.
The article was about palmer validating the trade. Therfore we have to consider what took place last year when we are determinig if it was worth the price? he was brought here to take us to the playoffs LAST YEAR DUMMY!!!! So of course that becomes part of the equation.
I took it further and said i would wait until mid season this year before making my decsion on if i felt it was worth it. well if you look at this season alone it isnt good enough 2-4 7 tds 7 turnovers.
look at last year alone it was not good enough. 4-6 17 turnovers in 9 games.
Look at it in total, it isnt good enough 6-10 24 turnovers in 16 games with 3 for pick 6.
Only you and other dummies want to erase certain games as if they never happened or talk about 1 game as if it was all that happened.
Pull your head out of carsons ass, and look at the big picture. His total time with the raiders ahs not been good, braking into season has not been very good, we will not sniff the playoffs. the deal is a bust. end of story worst trade in sports history
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Yes it has been good there are 53 players on a team.. you can’t ask a QB to play better to take over your teams weakness… this isn’t freaking Colts system where the guy played with 1 great Oline his whole career, had HOF or close to HOF receivers to throw to , had 1 play caller his whole career…
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Reason why we didn’t win last year was because of our D.. the guy did his best to win Detroit game , i believe was in the 14th or 15th week.. you go ahead and blame Palmer and his stats for our D to allow a freaking offense to go 99 yards in 65 seconds .. yeah lets blame Palmer because he couldn’t drive them to a win with 30 seconds left in the game…
week 17
The guy threw for over 400 yards with worn out bush and an Oline that wasn’t playing as well as it was early in the year … the D couldn’t stop Rivers once the whole game.. they didn’t force 1 punt the whole game.. yeah go ahead and blame Palmer… last game should have put us in the Playoffs, he played like a Qb who validated his status for trade 2 high picks for him in week 17.. unfortunately it’s a team game and the whole team has to play good to win … if we had judged by qb stats then that’s the top 3 stat for a qb posted in that week .. not bad for a loser eh?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Kell,
that 86 is 18th best of ALL-TIME
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Dumb, Dumb, Dumb and Dumber.
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You brought up the meaning less rating. I assume your the dumbest.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Man, poor KrappyRat sure has his panties all twisted up today, holla
Old Troll, why not take a relaxing spa day? Use some of that emergency cash KrappyWife leaves you in case you stub your toe
Silly old foll
October 25th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Kool Kell, you need to get a handle on your drinking problem. It’s only 12:38 in Alameda. Or are you traveling again?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
yeah lets blame Palmer because he couldn’t drive them to a win with 30 seconds left in the game…
Didn’t Suh block Jano’s FG? But point taken!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Kell, are you even a Raider fan? Anyone can run the “I’ve been watching the Raiders for 70 years” copout. It’s because it’s local, and on TV. And yeah, we all know about you chasing Randy Moss through Safeways parking lot, while he easily sprinted away from the “portly wacko” that chased him like a groupy.
Question is, are you even a Raider fan?
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Who are you, a cross posting btch?
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Why is it everytime you get called out, the poster HAS to be cross posting? It’s a really pathetic attempt to avoid the question.
You get called out by a regular poster for not having any real estate sales, in years, and you call them a cross poster.
You get called out by regular posters for your wife looking like a bowser, and you call them a cross poster.
I asked if you are really a Raider fan. I can’t recall you ever not being totally negative on the Raiders. It’s a simple question.
Are you really a Raider fan?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
BOWSER….hahahahahahahaha
October 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
The resident Niners troll questioning someone’s Raiders allegiance. Too funny.
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I admit I enjoy, and follow the Niners.
My question is to someone who is never positive about the Raiders, in any regards, unless you’re talking about a black player, or black coach, as compared to his white counterpart.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I didn’t think so Mystic.
No real solutions are your end, or even a thought that would have prevented the trade and brought us a capable QB.
There is no reason to validate anything to you.
You can’t even back up your opinion with a solution that would have prevented the dreaded trade.
Your a fake….
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exactly, the guy needs to grow up fast and get over his love fest for J Campbell … he thinks he was a better qb because he had better won-loss record, sure man it’s all about the QB all the times right? sure.. why would a freaking Coach who hates our owner so much trade him to us for just the 4th pick? if he’s such a good qb and why would he ride the pine on bench if he’s such a good qb
October 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Carson Palmer has a career QB rating that is 10 points higher than Ken Stabler.
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The rules were different then, dumbass.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Looks like Kell is off in the corner, licking his wounds.
You have to stop being such a meek easy target, Kell. It’s almost as if you enjoy the abuse.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
lol Sulli, your on a roll today !!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Carson Palmer has a career QB rating that is 10 points higher than Ken Stabler.
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The rules were different then, dumbass.
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I know your drunk, but is that the best you’ve got?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Mistic
You’ve got all these people looking at everything in a racial perspective.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Pull your head out of carsons ass, and look at the big picture. His total time with the raiders ahs not been good, braking into season has not been very good, we will not sniff the playoffs. the deal is a bust. end of story worst trade in sports history.===================
Mistic, don’t pull your punches. We want to know how you REALLY feel about Carson Palmer. And could you please go ahead and say you think Terrell Pryor is a better option so we’ll know the extent of your idiocy and be done with you?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Mistic
You’ve got all these people looking at everything in a racial perspective.
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Mistic is an idiot too.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
What C. Palmer is doing with this team right now is pretty impressive … Give me a name of 1 Qb who’s playing better than him at this moment.. with running attack that barely average 2 yards a carry and Receivers who should be #2, #3 and 5’s on other teams respectively and O-line that’s getting him killed on every freaking play.. give me 1 freaking name
October 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mistic
You’ve got all these people looking at everything in a racial perspective.
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Just want a name? He don’t have one.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I know your drunk, but is that the best you’ve got?
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Ah yeah, I’m drunk dumbass. Sure.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
BOWSER… LMFAO
October 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Well, it looks like I found my answer, Kell. Turns out you are anything but a Raider fan. Explains why you never go to games. (It’s our little secret that you can’t afford to go, even if you wanted too. Not that the Mrs would up your allowance to include Raider games).
You’re a front runner. Yes, as you called it, you’re a bandwagon fan.
· KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Raiders need to win tomorrow impressively. Then beat the lowly Dolphins next week. Then beat the Steelers at home.
Then, I’ll jump on the bandwagon.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
KoolKell Says: MisticYou’ve got all these people looking at everything in a racial perspective.==================
He’s doing your job?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I know your drunk, but is that the best you’ve got?
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Ah yeah, I’m drunk dumbass. Sure.
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I know. You are a drunk dumb ass.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Is Pryor the name?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
You know, I would love to see Pryor activated for a game…at least once this year!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
ODB
You guys carry Lexus parts there 2?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I would too
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Kell, do you not go to games for your personal safety? I’m pretty sure you would get your ass kicked if you showed your face at the Coliseum.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Is Pryor the name?
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Yeah, lets hear which player with that 17th pick would have gave us the better record, or which guy would have made the difference with Palmer’s money that we could have given to another player.. let’s see which QB could have done better with no running game game and no pass protection and average receivers.. let’s wait for his answer
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Kell, do you not go to games for your personal safety? I’m pretty sure you would get your ass kicked if you showed your face at the Coliseum.
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Brian is licking his chopps
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
My favorite QB has always been who every is behind center for The Raiders. That’s not to mean I always think he is the best QB around. He is just the QB who I want most to succeed.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
ODB
You guys carry Lexus parts there 2?
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some engine and power train parts depending on model.
?? what are you looking for ??
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
We need an update, Kell.
What teams do the Raiders have to beat for you to jump back on the bandwagon?
We beat the Steelers, but not Miami.
So are you now half way on the bandwagon? Is that kind of one massive buttcheek hanging off as road fodder, waiting for the team to win so the other buttcheek could have some company?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Listen Dumbass Cross-Posting Troll,
The Raiders are 2-4
Convert 31% of 3rd downs
Can’t score in the Red Zone
Whether, I sell 2 houses per year
Whether I go to Games
Whether I pick berries on Sundays.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Kell said the other day that he prefers to watch on tv at home.
Maybe he likes commercials.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
ODB
You guys carry Lexus parts there 2?
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some engine and power train parts depending on model.
?? what are you looking for ??
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May need this part for a tranny.
I’ll put it back on the diagnosis to get the exact part.
99′ Lexus RX300
October 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Kell, do you not go to games for your personal safety? I’m pretty sure you would get your ass kicked if you showed your face at the Coliseum.
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Brian is licking his chopps
Actually he doesn’t really care…he told me he tried to patch it up! True or not, not for me to decide!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I didn’t think so Mystic.
No real solutions are your end, or even a thought that would have prevented the trade and brought us a capable QB.
There is no reason to validate anything to you.
You can’t even back up your opinion with a solution that would have prevented the dreaded trade.
Your a fake….
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you call me fake but you want me to indulge in fantasy.
I made it clear last year what thoguht hu jack needed to do.
that didnt happen and here we are just as i predicted
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story… there are players who win games doing nothing but are helped by their D all game long …then make play here and there and they are given full credit for those wins.. wtf? didn’t Tebow go like 7-3 in Denver , i swear if he was black , Mistic would be here calling him wave of the future.. yet the guy is sitting on the bench behind a Qb that is a back up to start with .. so why didn’t anybody wanted Tebow to start for them, he was 7-3 something like that..let’s hear your answer Mistic
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Kell, do you not go to games for your personal safety? I’m pretty sure you would get your ass kicked if you showed your face at the Coliseum.
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Brian is licking his chopps
Actually he doesn’t really care…he told me he tried to patch it up! True or not, not for me to decide!
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I guess he squashed it then.
Thats cool. I told him to not even trip on folks on the blog.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
The crowd is rough today!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DMAC Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Kell, do you not go to games for your personal safety? I’m pretty sure you would get your azz kicked if you showed your face at the Coliseum.
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Brian is licking his chopps
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Brien knows where to find me.
He never said schit at practice.
Fvk Brien.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
So say it again cause I don’t remember?
Actually, just say the name of our QB now, if not Palmer?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DMAC, Sewell Lexus has a great parts site.
http://lexus.sewellparts.com
complete parts catalog and will sell to you
at wholesale prices.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DMAC, truth!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Sully may be a troll. And he may be a Niner fan. But he’s spot on in calling KK out right now.
The bottom line is this, we have really productive conversations here until certain people show up and then it always devoles into constant BS. The trolls know who they are and they are killing this blog.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Thanx ODB
I’ll send you a green package full of goodies later.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Kell said the other day that he prefers to watch on tv at home.
Maybe he likes commercials.
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What does that have to do with the Raiders being 2-4?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
My favorite QB has always been who every is behind center for The Raiders. That’s not to mean I always think he is the best QB around. He is just the QB who I want most to succeed.
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Some true Raiders faithful words there. That’s why even though I knew Jason wasn’t great, I wanted him to win games.
But I do have to admit, I wanted Jamarcus gone once the “sleeping through film study” and mid-week Vegas trip stories started coming out. He wasn’t even trying.
Carson may not be having an “elite QB” year, but he’s out there giving it all he’s got and has demonstrated his ability to make plays happen when the line is giving him time. He’s not even remotely close to being the biggest problem on this team.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
any time Mr President !!
October 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Lets hope for 3-4, Kell?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
KrappyRat, the only time you’re this agitated is when you get liquored up on Malibu Rum and get laughed at by the dudes in the barber shop
You gotta calm down Old Troll or you’ll inflame those old hemorrhoids
October 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I understand that KK has high standards for this team. Nothing wrong with that.
Its his racism that gets him in trouble here.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Why isn’t a guy who had winning record with Raiders starting for any team this year.. he freaking knew he sucks and no body is blind like Mistic and would give all the credit for those wins.. i mean a lot of teams have losing records at this point, why aren’t teams calling Chicago and asking for Campbell , he could be had for as little as 5th rd pick .. why Mistic.. W-L are everything , so why is a winning QB sitting on the bench
October 25th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Sully may be a troll. And he may be a Niner fan. But he’s spot on in calling KK out right now.
The bottom line is this, we have really productive conversations here until certain people show up and then it always devoles into constant BS. The trolls know who they are and they are killing this blog.
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You’re a gawdamned liar. I talk football until my personal life comes up. Look up the thread.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I understand that KK has high standards for this team. Nothing wrong with that.
Its his racism that gets him in trouble here.
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What racism did I bring up? what?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Sully may be a troll. And he may be a Niner fan. But he’s spot on in calling KK out right now.
The bottom line is this, we have really productive conversations here until certain people show up and then it always devoles into constant BS. The trolls know who they are and they are killing this blog.
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So true.. people are here to just ruin the experience for us true fans.. some people can’t get over their fav coach or player being let go and some are just plain trolls , who are trying to build self esteem here by calling people names and winning internet fights
October 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Too many forget more than any major sport football is the ultimate TEAM game.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
macfadden 20
Yes it has been good there are 53 players on a team.. you can’t ask a QB to play better to take over your teams weakness… this isn’t freaking Colts system where the guy played with 1 great Oline his whole career, had HOF or close to HOF receivers to throw to , had 1 play caller his whole career…
mistic1: the article was about palmer and his trade, not the rest of the team. no playoffs no validation
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Reason why we didn’t win last year was because of our D.. the guy did his best to win Detroit game , i believe was in the 14th or 15th week.. you go ahead and blame Palmer and his stats for our D to allow a freaking offense to go 99 yards in 65 seconds .. yeah lets blame Palmer because he couldn’t drive them to a win with 30 seconds left in the game…
mistic1: palmer had 17 turnovers in 9 games he is also part of the blame for the loses. looking at 1 or two games is not how the front office will evaluate the trade, only you guys do that here. Im afraid you must take the total body of work into account.
week 17
The guy threw for over 400 yards with worn out bush and an Oline that wasn’t playing as well as it was early in the year … the D couldn’t stop Rivers once the whole game.. they didn’t force 1 punt the whole game.. yeah go ahead and blame Palmer… last game should have put us in the Playoffs, he played like a Qb who validated his status for trade 2 high picks for him in week 17.. unfortunately it’s a team game and the whole team has to play good to win … if we had judged by qb stats then that’s the top 3 stat for a qb posted in that week .. not bad for a loser eh?
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misitc1: all of you ifs and and buts dont add up to a hill of beans. Hu jack thought the team was good enough to get into the playoffs, and i agree. Hu jack thought palmer could pick up where jc left off and it would take us to the post season,i knew he wouldnt.
he didnt, so the trade is a flop. i dont care about 1-2 games with big stats. Instead of isolating 1-2 games take the wholistic view.
Not worth the picks, not worth the money and it sunk our team.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Sully may be a troll. And he may be a Niner fan. But he’s spot on in calling KK out right now.
The bottom line is this, we have really productive conversations here until certain people show up and then it always devolves into constant BS. The trolls know who they are and they are killing this blog.
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To name a few (in no particular order):
Oakfoshow
Al_is_theraiders
AmysInCharge
Fangsraiders
Note that all the above may be four people, or three, or two, or one…
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Palmer is doing an amazing job considering the lack of protection we have. Soup would have been knocked out by week 3. Remember how awkwardly he falls?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Did you know that there is actually a Jason Campbell Sucks Facebook page?
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Oh, and I forgot MistaBrown. Spews nothing but hateful bile at everyone.
October 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
KK,
Explain why you take so muchheat then? At some point you gotta look in the mirror.
You showed up today, start raining on Palmer’s parade, and then wonder why Raider fans are attacking you!?!? You are stupid as hell if you can’t figure it out.
Palmer has been great for us. If you can’t see that, you deserve all the personal insults you get.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Oh, and I forgot MistaBrown. Spews nothing but hateful bile at everyone.
Isn’t it usually just him and Seymour? Haven’t seen him in here for awhile so I guess I wouldn’t know…
October 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Oh, and I forgot MistaBrown. Spews nothing but hateful bile at everyone.
Isn’t it usually just him and Seymour? Haven’t seen him in here for awhile so I guess I wouldn’t know…
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Classic beef
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mistic is devastated that cp continues to widen the gap of supremacy between himself and JC while Geno Smith is no longer a sure thing, Cam is on a downward spiral, and Russell Wilson and Mike Vick rank 22nd and 27th in passer rating respectively.
“New wave” of the below average qb’s!
October 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Listen Dumbass Cross-Posting Troll,
The Raiders are 2-4
Convert 31% of 3rd downs
Can’t score in the Red Zone
Whether, I sell 2 houses per year
Whether I go to Games
Whether I pick berries on Sundays.
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Is that supposed to be an answer, Kell?
YOU are the one who commented about how you hate the Raiders. YOU are the one who made the recent statement how you are only a Raider fan when the team is winning.
You are aware that bandwagon fans will never be confused with a diehard fan, right?
Bandwagon “fans” aren’t fans at all.
So why are you here again?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I get a lot of personal stuff thrown my way. Very seldom do they address my arguments.
I was a Al Davis Critic, and I don’t placate trolls like most of you cowards.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
And yes, these trolls are definitely getting tiresome. I understand that there’s always going to be the a difference of opinion, but can they just stop being racist and shut the F@&$ up about Hue Jackson for once!? It’s so emo.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
macfadden 20
Yes it has been good there are 53 players on a team.. you can’t ask a QB to play better to take over your teams weakness… this isn’t freaking Colts system where the guy played with 1 great Oline his whole career, had HOF or close to HOF receivers to throw to , had 1 play caller his whole career…
mistic1: the article was about palmer and his trade, not the rest of the team. no playoffs no validation
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Reason why we didn’t win last year was because of our D.. the guy did his best to win Detroit game , i believe was in the 14th or 15th week.. you go ahead and blame Palmer and his stats for our D to allow a freaking offense to go 99 yards in 65 seconds .. yeah lets blame Palmer because he couldn’t drive them to a win with 30 seconds left in the game…
mistic1: palmer had 17 turnovers in 9 games he is also part of the blame for the loses. looking at 1 or two games is not how the front office will evaluate the trade, only you guys do that here. Im afraid you must take the total body of work into account.
week 17
The guy threw for over 400 yards with worn out bush and an Oline that wasn’t playing as well as it was early in the year … the D couldn’t stop Rivers once the whole game.. they didn’t force 1 punt the whole game.. yeah go ahead and blame Palmer… last game should have put us in the Playoffs, he played like a Qb who validated his status for trade 2 high picks for him in week 17.. unfortunately it’s a team game and the whole team has to play good to win … if we had judged by qb stats then that’s the top 3 stat for a qb posted in that week .. not bad for a loser eh?
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misitc1: all of you ifs and and buts dont add up to a hill of beans. Hu jack thought the team was good enough to get into the playoffs, and i agree. Hu jack thought palmer could pick up where jc left off and it would take us to the post season,i knew he wouldnt.
he didnt, so the trade is a flop. i dont care about 1-2 games with big stats. Instead of isolating 1-2 games take the wholistic view.
Not worth the picks, not worth the money and it sunk our team.
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Yes it’s worth all the picks.. unfortunately Hue didn’t do sh1t on the other side of the D , he could have canned Chuck Breshnahan and tried something new.. you can’t win when your D is so bad that it can’t force a freaking punt the whole game… I’m sorry you can’t win when ur D is that bad .. Palmer played good game that D …. Sorry he can’t score 60 points throwing passes to average receivers to win shoot-out games.. Palmer had 1 of the best games of any QB in the past 2 years in that game.. and still lost.. J Campbell had worst games of any qb in his career and won some games.. it’s a team game.. stop blaming Palmer for everything
October 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Mistic does have that point…Hue did make that trade to bring us to the playoffs! And that is why Hue went off after that SD game on New Year’s. Palmer did his part, D didn’t…and Jacoby for falling down causing the only INT that day!
October 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
Oakfoshow
Al_is_theraiders
AmysInCharge
Fangsraiders
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You forgot MistaBrown and Alex7. They come here with no other purpose than to start sh!t.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
hwnrdr Says: Actually he doesn’t really care…he told me he tried to patch it up! True or not, not for me to decide!===============================================
They were both in Napa on the same fan appreciation day and skillfully avoided one another.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
hwnrdr Says: Actually he doesn’t really care…he told me he tried to patch it up! True or not, not for me to decide!===============================================
They were both in Napa on the same fan appreciation day and skillfully avoided one another.
That I know…I heard about a phone call!
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
This fact drives you crazy, but it isnt my doing, i only saw it coming and said as much
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
hwnrdr Says: Actually he doesn’t really care…he told me he tried to patch it up! True or not, not for me to decide!===============================================
They were both in Napa on the same fan appreciation day and skillfully avoided one another.
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That’s another damned lie. I don’t avoid anyone. It’s not me making threats on the blog.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Raider Riff Says: The bottom line is this, we have really productive conversations here until certain people show up and then it always devoles into constant BS. The trolls know who they are and they are killing this blog.============================================
This blog is bullet proof, else it would have died years ago.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Mistic claims Palmer is a Turnover machine well says here:
Michael Vick- 11 turnovers
Cam Newton – 9 turnovers
Russell Wilson – 8 turnovers
Carson Palmer- 7 turnovers
so is this the “new wave” of turnover prone qb’s?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
How much would the number of posts decrease if they banned all the trolls? I imagine it would cut them in half.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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Hue made the trade for the playoffs… but Hue didn’t do enough.. can’t rem the last team who won with average receivers in a shoot-out with a freaking D that can’t force 1 punt from the other team.. can you? exactly so stfu.. you know he played more than well enough to win that game and send us to the playoffs , it was probably the best game of his life and way better than JC ever had … but still lost .. you will blame it on him because he didn’t have superpowers to give the D some talent to stop the other team?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
This fact drives you crazy, but it isnt my doing, i only saw it coming and said as much
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this is just like the boxers who’s getting badly beaten asking “is that all you got”? hilarious
October 25th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure=
We should have brought in a QB specifically to not make the playoffs? He11, Boller or TP, then.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
This fact drives you crazy, but it isnt my doing, i only saw it coming and said as much
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Palmer isn’t playing 1 on 1 against another team.. all other guys have to outperform the other team as well to win.. Palmer is worth the trade.. i doubt that 17th pick or another player that we could have gotten for Palmers money would have had us better than 2-4 , more than likely we could have been sitting at 0-6 right now if we had Campbell.. Campbell was only winning when the running game was absolute beast.. we all know what happened when teams stopped our running game like that Tennessee game and 49ers game.. what was his rating again in that game? like 15 ?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says: what was his rating again in that game? like 15 ?===================================
12, if memory serves.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
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Cam Newton was taken #1 overall to take that franchise back to winning. He is 1-6 in his last 7 games. He is playing .147 ball. Honestly, he should be benched.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
If Tebow was a black qb , you can bet Mistic would have been calling him great and telling us he’s the reason why Denver won those games even though their D played out of it’s mind, and held the other team to less than 20 points even after Tebow going 3 and outs 95% of the time, but we would have been hearing, he still won games, i would rather have Tebow than Palmer LMFAO
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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Hue made the trade for the playoffs… but Hue didn’t do enough..
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the article was about palmer, not hue. I responded to it.
Hue made a tone of blunders and that is why he is gone. the trade was one of his major gaffes that probably cost him his job
October 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Later peoples!
I’m ghost.
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears! (fire Tedford)
Go Raiders!
October 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
You can’t say I told you so before it’s all run it’s course, Mistic.
Stop patting youself on the back at halftime. Are you sure you don’t actually play for this team?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says: what was his rating again in that game? like 15 ?===================================
12, if memory serves.
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exactly man, he would have been floating around 40 qb rating this year if we had him as our QB.. we would be 0-6 with him and laughing stock of the league, Palmer atleast have us at a decent record and gives us hope that he can deliver again if our running game goes no where.. We already know what happens with Campbell when running game is stuck in the mud
October 25th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
The Raiders Offense in 2012 is schit. Has nothing to do with Jason Campbell
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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Hue made the trade for the playoffs… but Hue didn’t do enough..
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the article was about palmer, not hue. I responded to it.
Hue made a tone of blunders and that is why he is gone. the trade was one of his major gaffes that probably cost him his job
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No it wasn’t a gaffe, it was a right choice, had Hue made some moves on the other side as well so that his team can freaking force the other team to punt once in the whole game , Palmer would have made the playoffs and got knows what would have happened from there , but we would have never seen u here again, at least under the name..
It was the right choice we’re 0-6 and laughing stock of the league with any other QB at this moment.. it was the right choice
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
The Raiders Offense in 2012 is schit. Has nothing to do with Hue Jackson.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
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Cam Newton was taken #1 overall to take that franchise back to winning. He is 1-6 in his last 7 games. He is playing .147 ball. Honestly, he should be benched.
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what does this have to do with the article that claimed the palmer was validating the trade?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
The Raiders Offense in 2012 is schit. Has nothing to do with Cam Newton.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
The Raiders Offense in 2012 is schit. Has nothing to do with Jason Campbell
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Tell me 1 offense that isn’t sh1t when their running game is stuck in neutral , Pass protection is below average, and receiving set that is in the bottom 5 of all teams .. tell me who could have done better with all that.. we’re lucky we have C.P .. we would be 0-6 with JC or another qb we could have drafted at 17th or signed with the money we could have saved by not trading for CP
October 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
10/28/2012 4:30 PM
If the Raids aren’t 3-4 at the conclusion of business this Sunday, playoff aspirations for 2012 are effectively ended.
2-5 overall, 0-3 in the division = DONE.
Eliminated before the halfway point.
Can easily see this happening.
In fact, with Krapp as OC, I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t happen.
Patience, Nation. We’re close. Just a block away.
No, not from getting the ZBS working and making the playoffs.
From 0-7.
Yet unbelievably, we’re still in it.
SMASH KC !
October 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
The Raiders Offense in 2012 is schit. Has nothing to do with Jason Campbell
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Tell me 1 offense that isn’t sh1t when their running game is stuck in neutral , Pass protection is below average, and receiving set that is in the bottom 5 of all teams .. tell me who could have done better with all that.. we’re lucky we have C.P .. we would be 0-6 with JC or another qb we could have drafted at 17th or signed with the money we could have saved by not trading for CP… gtfo here with the Palmer hate… go do something with your life
October 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
what does this have to do with the article that claimed the palmer was validating the trade?
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Palmer has delivered. Newton hasn’t. Right now, I am absolutely POSITIVE we could get a lst and a 2nd for Palmer. There is NO WAY the Panthers could get an overall one for Newton. So our trade was a success.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
we would be 0-6 with JC or another qb we could have drafted at 17th or signed with the money we could have saved by not trading for CP
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You don’t know that. It’s ifs and buts anyway.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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Hue made the trade for the playoffs… but Hue didn’t do enough..
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the article was about palmer, not hue. I responded to it.
Hue made a tone of blunders and that is why he is gone. the trade was one of his major gaffes that probably cost him his job
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No it wasn’t a gaffe, it was a right choice, had Hue made some moves on the other side as well so that his team can freaking force the other team to punt once in the whole game , Palmer would have made the playoffs and got knows what would have happened from there , but we would have never seen u here again, at least under the name..
It was the right choice we’re 0-6 and laughing stock of the league with any other QB at this moment.. it was the right choice
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again the article was not about hu jackson so why are you trying to shift tyhe discussion. It was about palmer, he has not validated the trade simply because he is on pace to throw for 4000 yards.
you keep talking about make believe scenarios, “would have” “if” “should have” but none of that matters.
What actually happened is the only thing that counts. Hu made a terrible bone headed blunder, it didnt pay off, and it wont this year either.
dont try and wiggle out from under it by changing the topic of discussion.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I get a lot of personal stuff thrown my way. Very seldom do they address my arguments.
I was a Al Davis Critic, and I don’t placate trolls like most of you cowards.
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In fact, aren’t you the biggest coward on this blog? I’ll repeat it again. Everytime you get called out, you don’t reply. You whine about the poster just “having to be a cross poster”.
I posted your comments on how you hate the Raiders.
I posted your comments on how you will only support the Raiders when they start winning.
These are your words. Not mine. Not others. YOURS!!
Read your words again. You basically stated exactly what I just did, which is YOUR COWARDLY AZZ HIDES WHEN CALLED OUT, SAYING THEY MUST BE A TROLL.
You’re actually the smallest man here, Kell. You calling everyone a troll, for picking on you, doesn’t change that fact.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
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Cam Newton was taken #1 overall to take that franchise back to winning. He is 1-6 in his last 7 games. He is playing .147 ball. Honestly, he should be benched.
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what does this have to do with the article that claimed the palmer was validating the trade?
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It shows ur love fest for black qb’s and you still give him a pass and blame every freaking body when black qb isn’t doing good but him.. yet you freaking come here and blame Palmer for us not leading us to the playoffs , when he played pretty good in the most important game to lead us to the win.. he’s the only person you will blame
October 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
what does this have to do with the article that claimed the palmer was validating the trade?
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Palmer has delivered. Newton hasn’t. Right now, I am absolutely POSITIVE we could get a lst and a 2nd for Palmer. There is NO WAY the Panthers could get an overall one for Newton. So our trade was a success.
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tortured logic to say the least, but what ever floats your boat i guess.
the article is about palmer, what cam is doing as a second year pro has zero to do with palmer validating the trade
October 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Everyone congratulate Mistic for calling the outcome of the trade before its even over.
Mistic you play on O or D?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Matt Leinart was voted the fifth least liked player in the NFL.
Who does those polls!
Wonder what Matt did to get this high rating? There are sure worse USC Qb busts in the league than him. Overhyped: Carson
Overrated: Marcos
Plain lame: Cassel (booed when injured by his own fans) just how bad is this dude?
They might be busts, but laughing all the way to the bank.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I think Reggie and DA will do a better job bringing in assistant coaches this offseason. Last year, the Allen hire came too late to snag the best candidates. Whoever brought up the idea that we should try and bring in Castillo has a good point, unless Reid gets fired in Philly and takes Castillo with him to Cleveland.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
The keep scrolling past the troll list, continues to grow. Not sure why some of you get into debating/arguing with posters who are either completely oblivious or downright ignorant. Just let the dog keep chasing its tail on its own, it will eventually get tired.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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Hue made the trade for the playoffs… but Hue didn’t do enough..
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the article was about palmer, not hue. I responded to it.
Hue made a tone of blunders and that is why he is gone. the trade was one of his major gaffes that probably cost him his job
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No it wasn’t a gaffe, it was a right choice, had Hue made some moves on the other side as well so that his team can freaking force the other team to punt once in the whole game , Palmer would have made the playoffs and got knows what would have happened from there , but we would have never seen u here again, at least under the name..
It was the right choice we’re 0-6 and laughing stock of the league with any other QB at this moment.. it was the right choice
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again the article was not about hu jackson so why are you trying to shift tyhe discussion. It was about palmer, he has not validated the trade simply because he is on pace to throw for 4000 yards.
you keep talking about make believe scenarios, “would have” “if” “should have” but none of that matters.
What actually happened is the only thing that counts. Hu made a terrible bone headed blunder, it didnt pay off, and it wont this year either.
dont try and wiggle out from under it by changing the topic of discussion.
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Yeah it has , i say we’re 2-4 right now because of Palmer, we would be 0-6 with any other Qb.. tell me the last Raiders game JC done anything in when our running game was only averaging 2 yards a carry ? SF NIners game? when finished with 12 qb rating? ahahhaa
October 25th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
KoolKell Says: The Raiders Offense in 2012 is schit. Has nothing to do with Jason Campbell========================
Going out on a limb, there?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Apparently Cardinals fans have a long memory, Zopi. I think USC in general garners enough hate nationally, especially under Carroll’s tenure.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
you cats are sensitive lol.
palmer didnt deliver the playoffs as he was brought here specifically to do. he wont do it this year either, so the trade is a failure
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Cam Newton was taken #1 overall to take that franchise back to winning. He is 1-6 in his last 7 games. He is playing .147 ball. Honestly, he should be benched.
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what does this have to do with the article that claimed the palmer was validating the trade?
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It shows ur love fest for black qb’s and you still give him a pass and blame every freaking body when black qb isn’t doing good but him.. yet you freaking come here and blame Palmer for us not leading us to the playoffs , when he played pretty good in the most important game to lead us to the win.. he’s the only person you will blame
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well i disagree with you newton is good, he needs to continue to develop like all 2nd year qbs. he has shown enough potential with his historic rookie season that leads me to believe he will be fine over time.
That has nothing to do with palmers trade. in fact i didnt even mention any other qbs, black green or fusia, you clowns did that as a some sort of strange defense for the palmer trade.
me responding to the writers claim about palmer validating the trade cause you to talk about as you put it “black qbs’?!
you guys are sick man
October 25th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Nobody is blaming Palmer for all of the losses. However, if we are going to say that the defense is so terrible that it is near impossible to win with, I would rather have the high draft picks that could be used to fill holes on that defense, than get a mistake prone QB in the twilight of his career.
The trade is a flop because we didn’t have the team around him to back it up. It will remain a flop if this team doesn’t make it to the playoffs this year and begin to look like real contenders.
And it doesn’t matter what the Bengals did with the pick(s).
October 25th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
And keep the race BS out of this.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
what does this have to do with the article that claimed the palmer was validating the trade?
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Palmer has delivered. Newton hasn’t. Right now, I am absolutely POSITIVE we could get a lst and a 2nd for Palmer. There is NO WAY the Panthers could get an overall one for Newton. So our trade was a success.
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Yes you’re right Palmer would fetch us a nice draft pick right now from a team that believes they can give him better supporting cast around…. quarterbacks can’t always be blamed on the O side.. they’re not the only 1’s guys get paid .. other players get paid too and they need to contribute for the team to win.. 1 guy can’t freaking have the best game of any qb in week 17 to give our team the win and the other teams lays an egg.. and he’s the 1 who get’s blamed for the loss and get’s blamed for the team giving up 2 high picks which wouldn’t have amounted to anything and doubt that 17th pick would have given us better protection or better running game to give us better record
October 25th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Bryant getting his captain caveman club ready legally
October 25th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Raider E Says: Everyone congratulate Mistic for calling the outcome of the trade before its even over.========
Might as well. Congratulations, Mistic. Explaining your idiocy is getting nowhere.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
MiamiRaider,
I just don’t understand why people continue to harp on our potential last year while at the same time ignoring the organization’s incompetence over the last decade. The two don’t really have anything to do with each other save for the fact that the contracts under the previous management have hampered the first year of this administration. Otherwise, just settle in for the first actual rebuilding period this team has ever had.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
W-L isn’t the whole story…
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in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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the article was about palmer, not hue. I responded to it.
Hue made a tone of blunders and that is why he is gone. the trade was one of his major gaffes that probably cost him his job
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again the article was not about hu jackson so why are you trying to shift tyhe discussion. It was about palmer, he has not validated the trade simply because he is on pace to throw for 4000 yards.
you keep talking about make believe scenarios, “would have” “if” “should have” but none of that matters.
What actually happened is the only thing that counts. Hu made a terrible bone headed blunder, it didnt pay off, and it wont this year either.
dont try and wiggle out from under it by changing the topic of discussion.
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Yeah it has , i say we’re 2-4 right now because of Palmer, we would be 0-6 with any other Qb.. tell me the last Raiders game JC done anything in when our running game was only averaging 2 yards a carry ? SF NIners game? when finished with 12 qb rating? ahahhaa
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still twisting and turning like royce gracie trying to escape a submission hold i see.
2-4 dose not validate the trade, maybe in your warped view that is good enough but i dont like watching my team lose.
talking about jc in this game or that game does not vaildate the palmer trade.
only the playoffs would have last year.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Good afternoon Mr. P!
How’s everything in your neck of the woods? Hope all is well!
October 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
The 2-4 record proves the Raiders were far far way from making a strong playoff push.. let alone a championship push. Its a rubuilding year.
Goes to show you dont trade a 1 n 2, pay hime 13-15 million this / next year for an above average qb who can run the no huddle so he can be on a team that has alot of holes.
You only do that if you’re a team thats close. A team thats playoff bound year in year out. the 49ers would have been perfect to make the Palmer trade. Alot more then the RAiders. However no real GM would make that move. Trent Balke would basically laugh at a 1 n 2.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
That has nothing to do with palmers trade. in fact i didnt even mention any other qbs, black green or fusia, you clowns did that as a some sort of strange defense for the palmer trade.
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When you make a trade, how you know it is a good deal is if you could get the same or better value for that player in the weeks, months or years after that trade. Do you not think the Jets, KC or Buffalo would not give up a 1 and 2 for Palmer? Personally, I would not trade Palmer for a lst and a 2nd right now. Would I give up an overall one for Newton? Not on your life. In fact I don’t know if I would give up a 3rd rounder for him right now.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Yo Brahs, thinking about powering up the all-new Meltdown Machine 9000 to analyze KrappyRat’s posts
The Old Troll has been ranting and raving all AM on the blog like a drunk, broke lunatic and it’s time to find out how close he is to complete implosion
I’ll pound a marg then the MM9000 hoppin’, awwww hellz yeah
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
The 2-4 record proves the Raiders were far far way from making a strong playoff push.. let alone a championship push. Its a rubuilding year.
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No it isn’t. The Raiders are 2-2 in their last four, with three of those four games coming against potential 2012 playoff teams. And the Raiders could EASILY have been 3-1 in those games. I don’t blame the coaches and org for the lst two losses. They have to see what they have and there is no way to know that in practice or in the preseason. There is no way of knowing what you have in the NFL until the bullets start flying.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Ask Mistic about C Newton and why his team didn’t win more games with his historic season and he will see with clear vision why the team didn’t win games
Ask Mistic why the Raiders didn’t go to the playoffs , he would put on his hate glasses and blame everything on the C.P …even though the Raiders D was worse then the Car D
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
me responding to the writers claim about palmer validating the trade cause you to talk about as you put it “black qbs’?!
you guys are sick man==================================
But, but, but, but I didn’t say anything about black QB’s THIS MORNING! You think the blog has no memory? You’re getting desperate there, Mistic.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
The trade happened; it sucks that Reggie didn’t have the picks but he doesn’t complain. He and Allen will both make rookie mistakes, but we should be supportive of them even though we’re frustrated. Anyone who is on this blog has remained a Raiders fan through the past decade; we all know how bad it’s been because we’ve all been here the entire time. Now is not the time to whine or criticize, now is the time to take what the team can give us and see who we’re likely to keep on the roster and staff.
No more JC, Wimbley, or Bush talk. That is all done with, as is Hue.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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This! Throwing for alot of yards between the 20’s mean nothing if you are not scoring T’ds / getting W’s
October 25th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
On C.P.^^^^
October 25th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
This is a QB driven league with the modern rules.All the powers that be that worked for the Raiders last year knew the team lacked in that dept. so they went and got a QB that was better than what was here.The object is to always try and improve at every position.Now that the team has a good QB the powers that be must surround him with better players so the team can be as successful as everyone wishes.IMO,they are doing that but it won’t happen overnight.The point is if we hadn’t made the trade while another position might be better-draft picks aren’t sure things-we would still need and be lacking a good QB.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
in this case it is, he wasnt brought here to throw for 4000 yards, or to make 24 turnovers in 16 games.
hue made the trade for the playoffs that is all.
why cant you admit this? none of these other issue have anything to do with palmers trade and if it is or isnt valid
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This! Throwing for alot of yards between the 20’s mean nothing if you are not scoring T’ds / getting W’s
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It doesn’t make any sense how the f8k is it his fault inside the 10 , when Mcfadden can’t punch it in and we don’t have any RZ threat to throw and then players drop TD passes when they finally get open.. yes blame it on him… he should have some magical power to get TD’s
October 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
Good afternoon Mr. P!
How’s everything in your neck of the woods? Hope all is well!==================================================
If that’s me, all is reasonably well. And good afternoon to you, whether or not that was me.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
The question is how long is Palmer gonna be here for? Reggie will want his own qb at some point and money off the books.
Only he knows forsure if palmer will be back.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
The 2-4 record proves the Raiders were far far way from making a strong playoff push.. let alone a championship push. Its a rubuilding year.
Goes to show you dont trade a 1 n 2, pay hime 13-15 million this / next year for an above average qb who can run the no huddle so he can be on a team that has alot of holes.
You only do that if you’re a team thats close. A team thats playoff bound year in year out. the 49ers would have been perfect to make the Palmer trade. Alot more then the RAiders. However no real GM would make that move. Trent Balke would basically laugh at a 1 n 2.
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This is exactly the point I made last year before the trade happend and the rumors of carson were swirling.
I contended that jc was masking lots of flaws on the team and they were in fact over achieving. I saw a team that was going into the playoffs, but would be hard pressed to get past the first or second round, because the o-line was shaky, and the defense was horrific.
I didnt think palmer would give an instant upgrade that would carry us into the playoffs, or further, but many here drank the koolaid by the gallon.
No need to make that trade as if we were just one player away from lombardy glory. Instead stick with the team you have and take your lumps. Come back next year healthy with anew d coordinator and build on what you started with the nucleus intact.
huie didnt palmer didnt hu got axed and we hit the couch for the post season. looks like palmer will again be on the coach this season during playoff time.
no playoffs no validation
October 25th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
ya qb who cant score in the RZ doesnt make sense.. I agree. espcially an “elite” one
October 25th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
This is a QB driven league with the modern rules.All the powers that be that worked for the Raiders last year knew the team lacked in that dept. so they went and got a QB that was better than what was here.The object is to always try and improve at every position.Now that the team has a good QB the powers that be must surround him with better players so the team can be as successful as everyone wishes.IMO,they are doing that but it won’t happen overnight.The point is if we hadn’t made the trade while another position might be better-draft picks aren’t sure things-we would still need and be lacking a good QB.
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I don’t think any other qb would have had us at better than 2-4 or the 17th draft pick would have made huge difference.. or the freaking money we could have saved to sign another player or two would have made huge diff to give us better than 2-4 .. i can clearly see our team being 0-6 at this point if Palmer wasn’t here
October 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
This is exactly the point I made last year before the trade happend and the rumors of carson were swirling.
I contended that jc was masking lots of flaws on the team and they were in fact over achieving. I saw a team that was going into the playoffs, but would be hard pressed to get past the first or second round, because the o-line was shaky, and the defense was horrific.
I didnt think palmer would give an instant upgrade that would carry us into the playoffs, or further, but many here drank the koolaid by the gallon.
No need to make that trade as if we were just one player away from lombardy glory. Instead stick with the team you have and take your lumps. Come back next year healthy with anew d coordinator and build on what you started with the nucleus intact.
huie didnt palmer didnt hu got axed and we hit the couch for the post season. looks like palmer will again be on the coach this season during playoff time.
no playoffs no validation
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Most ppl wont want to admit that.. but agreed. Who cares if he puts up stats. They are saying its the defense..its that.. its no red zone target. They are making the point for us. Alot of holes on the team. Way to much to give up for a rebuilding team.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
I can’t believe that ‘roider Tamba Hali had the mere to call the Raiders dirty!
It’s true though, and we will punch him in the mouth on Sunday, ZBS or no
October 25th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
That has nothing to do with palmers trade. in fact i didnt even mention any other qbs, black green or fusia, you clowns did that as a some sort of strange defense for the palmer trade.
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When you make a trade, how you know it is a good deal is if you could get the same or better value for that player in the weeks, months or years after that trade. Do you not think the Jets, KC or Buffalo would not give up a 1 and 2 for Palmer? Personally, I would not trade Palmer for a lst and a 2nd right now. Would I give up an overall one for Newton? Not on your life. In fact I don’t know if I would give up a 3rd rounder for him right now.
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we view it differently. i dont think that just because some team may be fooled into giving up high draft picks for a player, it means what you say.
We were fleeced when traded for palmer, and i dont think the teams you mentioned would give up their top draft choices for palmer, regardless that is not how i evaluate the trade.
i evaluate based on what palmer was brought in to do, playoffs or bust
mainly bust to this point
the herschel walker deal also flopped
October 25th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
whats that say about DA and co?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
This is exactly the point I made last year before the trade happend and the rumors of carson were swirling.
I contended that jc was masking lots of flaws on the team and they were in fact over achieving. I saw a team that was going into the playoffs, but would be hard pressed to get past the first or second round, because the o-line was shaky, and the defense was horrific.
I didnt think palmer would give an instant upgrade that would carry us into the playoffs, or further, but many here drank the koolaid by the gallon.
No need to make that trade as if we were just one player away from lombardy glory. Instead stick with the team you have and take your lumps. Come back next year healthy with anew d coordinator and build on what you started with the nucleus intact.
huie didnt palmer didnt hu got axed and we hit the couch for the post season. looks like palmer will again be on the coach this season during playoff time.
no playoffs no validation
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What freaking flaws was JC masking? Running game that was the best in the league? the pass protection that was one of the best in 1st half of season? how you freaking mask a lot of flaws by throwing dump offs… he didn’t mask any flaws when our running game never got going against the teams like Tennessee and Niners… what was his rating again in that game 12
October 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I’d be more concerned about Palmer’s play if it accompanied a solid rushing attack. Without that, it’s kind of a moot point.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Ask Mistic about C Newton and why his team didn’t win more games with his historic season and he will see with clear vision why the team didn’t win games
Ask Mistic why the Raiders didn’t go to the playoffs , he would put on his hate glasses and blame everything on C.P …even though the Raiders D was worse then the Car D
October 25th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I’ve seen lots of QB’s carry a weak run game.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Again, the biggest problem I’ve had with the team so far is that they seem to be wasting Dmac’s one healthy season. The irony kills me.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
the reason palmer was inconsistent last year had a little to do with bad playcalling. time and time again, palmer would gain some momentum with a couple good passes, some good runs, and then when we get near the red zone, hue would start overthinking everything. you’d see pamler staring helplessly at the sidelines waiting for a play. it killed momentum, and happened A LOT.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
papertiger418 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I’d be more concerned about Palmer’s play if it accompanied a solid rushing attack. Without that, it’s kind of a moot point.
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If you consider those #’s with our rushing attack and pass protection , i would say he’s playing out of his mind.. i would say we would not have had 2 wins with any other qb behind this support
October 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
I’ve seen lots of QB’s carry a weak run game, and weak defenses.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
180.The Beeech Dawg Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Yo Brahs, thinking about powering up the all-new Meltdown Machine 9000 to analyze KrappyRat’s posts
The Old Troll has been ranting and raving all AM on the blog like a drunk, broke lunatic and it’s time to find out how close he is to complete implosion
I’ll pound a marg then the MM9000 hoppin’, awwww hellz yeah
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We could’ve used the “Meltdown Machine” in here the other night when there were like 50 handles we’ve never seen on here all complaining about the same thing.
It’s like some fake school bus of weirdos showed up…but all had the exact same argument against Palmer.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
MiamiRaider,
I just don’t understand why people continue to harp on our potential last year while at the same time ignoring the organization’s incompetence over the last decade. The two don’t really have anything to do with each other save for the fact that the contracts under the previous management have hampered the first year of this administration. Otherwise, just settle in for the first actual rebuilding period this team has ever had.
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You’re correct, friend. There’s so much to take into consideration, in respect to the product out on the field. Bad contracts, no draft picks etc…basically the franchise as a whole, bottom up, is being overhauled. The Raiders, in the way it operates, from the GM, director of player personnel, scouts, coaches and players, will be built with the same blue print as the Green Bay Packers. Like it or not, that’s what Reggie said he’s going to do and I’m fine with that. Much better approach than how it was done here before.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I’ve seen lots of QB’s carry a weak run game.
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Really , not just weak run games but weak Pass protection and with bottom 5 receiving corp , not a top D.. how many can you name ?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Ask Mistic about C Newton and why his team didn’t win more games with his historic season and he will see with clear vision why the team didn’t win games
Ask Mistic why the Raiders didn’t go to the playoffs , he would put on his hate glasses and blame everything on the C.P …even though the Raiders D was worse then the Car D
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that is a lie
The main reason raiders didnt make the playoffs is becuase the heart and soul, the back bone and leader of the team cracked his collar bone.
Palmer couldnt save the team after this disastrously cruel turn of events.
Plamer sucked last year, as well as the defense. Hu jack also shoulders the blame for not having a better back up qb.
never any where have i said “its all palmer fault’
damn all of this because your hero didnt live up to the hype you ascribed to him?
October 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I’d rather have some more younger talent on Defense for the future. Like I said.. I think Reggie would have flipped that 17th overall pick maybe picking up a late one 2nd or two 3’s. He could have gone with a guy like chandler jones, Shea Mccalaean.. or gotten Lavonte david, bobby wagner, a corner, or Oline help.
Probaly would have also spent one of his 2nd or 3rd draft pick on Russell wilson who Raiders scouts and him spent the most time with. We probaly would have been no worse off with him as qb.. paying him way less.
would have about 13 million dollars extra to use for FA or keep Wimbley. Anyhow its a mute point now.
I just dont like that the Raiders are gonna have to give another 2nd round pick to bengals. Probaly gonna be a high one two. A rebuilding team needs picks. Reggie says thats the only way to build a team. WE need more miles burris’s.
I just want the Raiders to WIN though. Thats all i care about.
October 25th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
btw I am Glad REGGIE is here to clean up the mess. Really I am. Lets see how it all goes down moving foward.
Just win baby!
October 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
This is exactly the point I made last year before the trade happend and the rumors of carson were swirling.
I contended that jc was masking lots of flaws on the team and they were in fact over achieving. I saw a team that was going into the playoffs, but would be hard pressed to get past the first or second round, because the o-line was shaky, and the defense was horrific.
I didnt think palmer would give an instant upgrade that would carry us into the playoffs, or further, but many here drank the koolaid by the gallon.
No need to make that trade as if we were just one player away from lombardy glory. Instead stick with the team you have and take your lumps. Come back next year healthy with anew d coordinator and build on what you started with the nucleus intact.
huie didnt palmer didnt hu got axed and we hit the couch for the post season. looks like palmer will again be on the coach this season during playoff time.
no playoffs no validation
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Most ppl wont want to admit that.. but agreed. Who cares if he puts up stats. They are saying its the defense..its that.. its no red zone target. They are making the point for us. Alot of holes on the team. Way to much to give up for a rebuilding team.
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We don’t have that many holes, beside the lack of depth and lack of pass .. we just have a freaking Bad o line coach to go with a scheme the O-line can’t grasp and players playing out of position .. i could easily see us at 4-2 with the same rushing attack from last year
October 25th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
The Raiders had an average QB that was playing as well as he ever has in the NFL but he went down (couldn’t slide). His backup was garbage.
There was nobody else. We were 4-2. We could have made the playoffs.
Palmer was brought here to be as good or better than the guy he replaced. We had to pay a fairly hefty price to get him here.
He played very well at times, particularly in games down the stretch. Was awesome v. Detroit, played tough in KC and made the key throw that got us in position to win, and was lights out against SD.
Palmer didn’t also play MLB or Safety. He was not the defensive coordinator. And he came off the couch.
All things considered, Palmer did very well last year.
He’s doing even better this year.
You guys get wrapped up in stats a bit too much. Just watch what he does on the field. Thus far, Palmer has made 2 pretty poor plays out of however many dropbacks he’s had and he happened to overcome both of those mistakes.
It’s not his fault we took a step back on offense rather than a step forward this offseason.
I mean… managament got Greg Fkin Knapp.
Really?
Palmer’s taken it up a notch this year. Give it some games and the supporting cast will catch up.
Palmer has been the best player on O (and it’s not even close).
October 25th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
This is exactly the point I made last year before the trade happend and the rumors of carson were swirling.
I contended that jc was masking lots of flaws on the team and they were in fact over achieving. I saw a team that was going into the playoffs, but would be hard pressed to get past the first or second round, because the o-line was shaky, and the defense was horrific.
I didnt think palmer would give an instant upgrade that would carry us into the playoffs, or further, but many here drank the koolaid by the gallon.
No need to make that trade as if we were just one player away from lombardy glory. Instead stick with the team you have and take your lumps. Come back next year healthy with anew d coordinator and build on what you started with the nucleus intact.
huie didnt palmer didnt hu got axed and we hit the couch for the post season. looks like palmer will again be on the coach this season during playoff time.
no playoffs no validation
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What freaking flaws was JC masking? Running game that was the best in the league? the pass protection that was one of the best in 1st half of season? how you freaking mask a lot of flaws by throwing dump offs… he didn’t mask any flaws when our running game never got going against the teams like Tennessee and Niners… what was his rating again in that game 12
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that is a pattern for you, instead of looking at the over all body of work you want to single out 1-2 games to make a case for or against. really we cant have intelligent discussion.
Jc was very adept art being nimble in the pocket and extending plays. he did it time and time again, he also would hit big passes in clutch situations and protected the ball. This masked the fact that the defense was awful and the oline was suspect. This is why at this time last year we were 4-2, and not 2-4.
hu jack gone knapp is in
jc is gone palmer is in
4-2 is gone 2-4 is in
last years team and players were far better than this years
October 25th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
man we have some holes.. CB for one.. LB’s .. OLINE.. and TE.. we are just rocking with who we got right now. DEPTH is huge for any playoff team though.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
that is a lie
The main reason raiders didnt make the playoffs is becuase the heart and soul, the back bone and leader of the team cracked his collar bone.
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Dude, McFadden had a foot injury.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
The Raiders had an average QB that was playing as well as he ever has in the NFL but he went down (couldn’t slide). His backup was garbage.
There was nobody else. We were 4-2. We could have made the playoffs.
Palmer was brought here to be as good or better than the guy he replaced.
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revisionist history
palmer was brought here for the playoffs , he did not deliver
October 25th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
This team going forward will be built with young talent..and all draft picks/ UDFA with the occasional SOLID FA. Thats how you build for success. While its more exciting going for the WIN NOW and trading picks for VET players.. that model doesnt fit nor did it workout for the Raiders.
Green bay used it for Woodson and Reggie white
October 25th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
priesttj doesn’t believe CP was an upgrade =opinion
Mistic says JC is better than CP=him wanting to validate himself when saying after the trade CP was a horrible qb
Mistic used to use the qb ratings which but Cp has now clearly surpassed JC
Mistic talked about how bad a leader he was quitting on his team yet teammates and coaches have raved about CP while Cam “wave of the future” Newton has been criticized by the media and his star receiver
He used to call him a “turnover machine” while he has less turnovers this year than Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Michael Vick which he praises as part of the “wave of the future”
it’s a big difference when you have a difference of opinion with someone like priestj and mistic.
priestj will consider your opinion even if he disagrees while mistic will say whatever it takes even if he’s wrong or doesn’t believe in it in order to defend his initial claim. Sometimes mistic, you must admit your mistakes
October 25th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
This is exactly the point I made last year before the trade happend and the rumors of carson were swirling.
I contended that jc was masking lots of flaws on the team and they were in fact over achieving. I saw a team that was going into the playoffs, but would be hard pressed to get past the first or second round, because the o-line was shaky, and the defense was horrific.
I didnt think palmer would give an instant upgrade that would carry us into the playoffs, or further, but many here drank the koolaid by the gallon.
No need to make that trade as if we were just one player away from lombardy glory. Instead stick with the team you have and take your lumps. Come back next year healthy with anew d coordinator and build on what you started with the nucleus intact.
huie didnt palmer didnt hu got axed and we hit the couch for the post season. looks like palmer will again be on the coach this season during playoff time.
no playoffs no validation
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Most ppl wont want to admit that.. but agreed. Who cares if he puts up stats. They are saying its the defense..its that.. its no red zone target. They are making the point for us. Alot of holes on the team. Way to much to give up for a rebuilding team.
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We don’t have that many holes, beside the lack of depth and lack of pass .. we just have a freaking Bad o line coach to go with a scheme the O-line can’t grasp and players playing out of position .. i could easily see us at 4-2 with the same rushing attack from last year
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you just reeled off 4 major flaws!!!
do you even read what you post? better question are you awake when you post?
October 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Palmer was brought here in an emergency situation. We assumed playoffs. It took 2 games for him to get acclimated, both of those losses. He also didn’t have DMC.
This year, he has DMC but now has Knapp, which is kind of like having DMC with a middle aged d-bag strapped to his ankles every play.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The propaganda is really coming into focus now, eh? Certain posters in here still reeling from Cork’s last post. Tsk Tsk. Too bad some of you can’t get behind a good QB when you see one and have to get all racist about it. Meanwhile these same folks are now acting like they weren’t the ones to bring up names like Newton and Wilson. Never understood why some posters obsessed on QBs from other teams, but now that it’s thrown back in their face, they try to spit it out? Too funny! Lol at all the hypocrites and double talkers in here.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: I just want the Raiders to WIN though. Thats all i care about.===================
With Palmer as QB, some don’t.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Ask Mistic about C Newton and why his team didn’t win more games with his historic season and he will see with clear vision why the team didn’t win games
Ask Mistic why the Raiders didn’t go to the playoffs , he would put on his hate glasses and blame everything on the C.P …even though the Raiders D was worse then the Car D
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that is a lie
The main reason raiders didnt make the playoffs is becuase the heart and soul, the back bone and leader of the team cracked his collar bone.
Palmer couldnt save the team after this disastrously cruel turn of events.
Plamer sucked last year, as well as the defense. Hu jack also shoulders the blame for not having a better back up qb.
never any where have i said “its all palmer fault’
damn all of this because your hero didnt live up to the hype you ascribed to him?
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He’s not my hero , but i know to blame him for not making the playoffs is stupid .. the guy put all on the field in week 17 and against Detroit .. those are 2 sure wins with average play from the other side that has to be on the field when the O is not there and we would have been in the playoffs had we done something when our O wasn’t on the field , like lets give them a good field position or lets try to freaking force the other team to punt for once.. We paid like 70 million to that side of the team last year.. to do what ? lay an egg in the most important game.. if you had to pick 1 guy .. who gave his all in that game out of all 53 guys in that game.. you would be stupid to pick anybody else other than Palmer …yet you want to f8kkin Blame Palmer for those stupid picks that we gave up .. 1 of those picks would have probably been sitting on the bench at the time and the one is next year and we won’t know how much difference 1 2nd rd pick will make all by himself
October 25th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
priestj will consider your opinion even if he disagrees
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Really? Seriously? Wow. Didn’t know that, and I’ve been on this blog from the beginning.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
palmer was brought here for the playoffs
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And Jason Campbell wasn’t?
Playoff picture is still in our future for 2012
October 25th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
if we had a poll of who’s a better qb JC or CP, i don’t kno if JC would garner 10%.
if it’s about qb rating cp > russell wilson cam newton michael vick JC joe webb troy smith
if it’s about turnovers CP > russell wilson cam newton michael vick
if it’s about leadership cp > cam newton
If it’s all about wins and losses Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson > Warren Moon, Donavon Mcnabb, Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick and Steve Mcnair
October 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
who gave his all in that game out of all 53 guys in that game.. you would be stupid to pick anybody else other than Palmer
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True.
I think Hue’s problem with Palmer earlier on when we got him was trying to do too much.
Got away from the run game, misdirection, trick plays. Felt that he had to hide Jason a bit and because Palmer is a more effective passer, lost some of that creativity.
Palmer got in a groove down the stretch but he couldn’t play defense and be defensive coordinator too/
October 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Carson played with too much panic last week in the first half.
I think he will settle in better on the road and have this offense ready to pick up on the momentum of the 2nd half of last week, early in the game.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: I just want the Raiders to WIN though. Thats all i care about.===================
With Palmer as QB, some don’t.
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I dont care who is qb. Im a palmer fan forsure. Fan now that he is on our team. I just wasnt a fan of the Trade. Thats all. But like i said its a mute point.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
finish this sentence:
If we make the playoffs this year Mistic will….
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
226.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
palmer was brought here for the playoffs
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And Jason Campbell wasn’t?
Playoff picture is still in our future for 2012
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Vegas nailed it.
Just one week at a time. If we end up 3-4 after Sunday, we could very well be in a three way tie for first or at worst one game back (excluding tie break scenarios cause its just too early for that).
And… um… Raider fans…. the last fans in the world who should be spoiled…. we were in the playoff hunt until the final whistle last year. That’s got to count for something despite coming up short.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
KoolKell Says: Really? Seriously? Wow. Didn’t know that, and I’ve been on this blog from the beginning.==========
In the beginning, God said, let there be KoolKell.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Half our team , which is called Defense , and was paid 70% of the salary of the whole team couldn’t force 1 punt in a game where they knew if they win and they make the playoffs
1 guy who we traded 2 uncertain future picks for .. who could do something or be bust .. played like his life was on the line and played a pretty well game to do what he was brought here for to make the playoffs and he put up winning # stats
yet he is getting blamed for the loss by a certain poster in here , who call some certain type of colored guys wave of the future and brag about them when they win and don’t want to bring them up when they lose
October 25th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
If we make the playoffs this year Mistic will….
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Praise Reggie McKenzie and act like he called it all along.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
231.inonewordraider Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
finish this sentence:
If we make the playoffs this year Mistic will….
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Be happy to eat crow, ause he’s a Raider fan.
I’d rather be wrong and win and I’m sure we all feel that way.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Palmer was brought here in an emergency situation. We assumed playoffs.
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actually im giving carson and hu jack a bit of a break.
hue really said carson was here to deliver superbowls ,major monumental flop of a trade
her it is straight from the horses mouth
-Q: Hue, given what you traded for Carson, does this team have to win a Super Bowl to justify what you gave up?
-JACKSON: I think this team is poised to win whatever we need to win. I said that before. We’re not putting people on the team just to put them on there. We’re chasing a championship.
I’m not going to tell you I’m going to be disappointed if we don’t, but I’ll probably be mad if we didn’t.
But I’m very excited about the future of this football team and where it has a chance to go, and obviously Carson’s a huge piece of that, and the players that are already here are a huge piece of that, and the players that will continue to come here will be a huge piece of that.
I just think that we’re building, and we’re heading in the right direction and I think we’re going to get there. I truly do.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
another question:
would mistic be happier if the Raiders make the playoffs or if the Redskins or Panthers make the playoffs?
October 25th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
played like his life was on the line and played a pretty well game to do what he was brought here for to make the playoffs and he put up winning # stats
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Jacoby Ford was lucky he wasn’t in punching distance of me. What an @$$hole.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
“I just think that we’re building, and we’re heading in the right direction and I think we’re going to get there. I truly do”
Sounds like a guy who thought he would be coaching the following year.
That trade, for Hue, was as much about the coming seasons as it was that season.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
finish this sentence:
If we make the playoffs this year Mistic will….
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never show up with that ID
October 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says: palmer was brought here for the playoffs And Jason Campbell wasn’t?=================
Nope. No other QB in history, league wide, has ever been picked, drafted, traded for, or gotten in FA with hopes for the playoffs. That distinction belongs to Carson Palmer, and Carson Palmer alone. He is, therefore, the biggest bust in NFL history.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I just think that we’re building, and we’re heading in the right direction and I think we’re going to get there. I truly
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he should have said “it was a horrible trade, we probably won’t make the playoffs, Jc was better”
you’re really reaching now
October 25th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Half our team , which is called Defense , and was paid 70% of the salary of the whole team couldn’t force 1 punt in a game where they knew if they win and they make the playoffs
1 guy who we traded 2 uncertain future picks for .. who could do something or be bust .. played like his life was on the line and played a pretty well game to do what he was brought here for to make the playoffs and he put up winning # stats
yet he is getting blamed for the loss by a certain poster in here ,
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more lies
I didnt blame palmer for anything. it isnt his fault that hu jack grossly over valued palmer and reached the way he did. palmer had no shot of ever validating such a ridiculous trade.
Stop trying to change the focus of what i wrote.
did palmer validate the trade/ answer no
October 25th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says: But like i said its a mute point.=================================================
I wish it was a mute point!
October 25th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
CP has been the best player on O for the 2012 Raiders. I mean, running away, head and shoulders, etc., etc.
The real question is….. DMC.
If they aren’t going to get DMC going, they need to put in Goodson. We need to be able to run the ball and be AT LEAST effective enough on the ground to be able to continue to use play action and keep Ds honest.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
I think CP has done pretty well this year.
In fact, considering Krapp…the ZBS and OLine failure… he’s done remarkably well.
But ‘validated’ the trade ?
I don’t know. Not sure what that means, anyway.
Maybe, if not for the pick-6 in Atl.
Maybe, if we weren’t 2-4 and languishing on offense.
Overall, Palmer has been better than I thought he’d be.
I think he’s operating under some less than enviable circumstances.
Even though he’s amassed many yards passing, I can’t honestly say he’s having a great year.
Is he better than JC ? Without a doubt.
Was he worth a 1 and a 2 ? That remains to be seen. Depends on how well and how long he plays.
Guess that’s what Corky means by ‘validating’ the trade.
I don’t think that’s happened yet.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
“I just think that we’re building, and we’re heading in the right direction and I think we’re going to get there. I truly do”
Sounds like a guy who thought he would be coaching the following year.
That trade, for Hue, was as much about the coming seasons as it was that season.
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I extended hue the benifit of the doubt, and said i would wait until mid season this year before calling it a flop.
missed the playoofs last year
looks like we are missing them again this year
so no matter what hu thought in terms of how long he would be here the trade did not and wont produce the desired out come which accordiing to hu jack the master mind behind the deal was a superbowl
he said it i didnt
October 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
It’s not like every 1st round draft pick is an impact player and even the ones that are usually take a few seasons.
I’ll take a vet QB for a #1 for one year when we were in the thick of things.
Put it like this:
Burn a 1 this year and a 2 the following year for a shot at playoffs (and we did right up til the final whistle or close to it) or watch Boller throw away a season and draft Ryan Tannehill.
I’ll stick with door #1, gents.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
You can’t say the prez’s name on here but they do allow racial slurs and promoting of racially motivated websites. The moderator must be fangs!
October 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Carson played with too much panic last week in the first half.
I think he will settle in better on the road and have this offense ready to pick up on the momentum of the 2nd half of last week, early in the game.
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JFB how you doin man? My man. Always the voice of reason.
Go JFB and GO RAIDERS!!
October 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Let’s blame a qb for not winning the most crucial game in week 17.. threw for over 400 yards 2 tds….
his fault that the other phase of the team which was paid like close to 70 Million and called D for the purpose to stop other teams from scoring and giving your O better chance didn’t deliver and couldn’t force 1 punt the entire … Lets blame it on Palmer.. Hue was right Palmer can take us to the playoffs and he played like that QB in a game team wins and makes the playoffs but Hue def overestimated his D , he should have canned D Breshnahan when his team played really bad D but yet he thought they would get better with time but he didn’t think that bad D would save the worst game of the year for the last game of the year which was a must win game … Yeah lets Blame Palmer for that
October 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
247 is a solid post. Agree completely, 99.
It has yet to be seen. All I know is we have a QB and he’s playing well and would be playing a lot better with a halfway capable OC.
Greg is the Bres of 2012.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Why we’re even discussing CP is beyond me. I’m more concerned with our running game and lack of creativity in playcalling.
D was gangsta last week, save for one brainfart.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Half our team , which is called Defense , and was paid 70% of the salary of the whole team couldn’t force 1 punt in a game where they knew if they win and they make the playoffs
1 guy who we traded 2 uncertain future picks for .. who could do something or be bust .. played like his life was on the line and played a pretty well game to do what he was brought here for to make the playoffs and he put up winning # stats
yet he is getting blamed for the loss by a certain poster in here ,
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more lies
I didnt blame palmer for anything. it isnt his fault that hu jack grossly over valued palmer and reached the way he did. palmer had no shot of ever validating such a ridiculous trade.
Stop trying to change the focus of what i wrote.
did palmer validate the trade/ answer no
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How can you say overvalued CP … CP did wtf he was brought in here for .. He played like his life was on the line in a must win game .. Our D which stole around 70M from Al didn’t even force 1 punt yeah Let’s keep blaming Palmer
October 25th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The people hating on Palmer are a bunch of clowns. You want something to complain about, how bout how we constantly wasted our picks on players who arent even pratice squad guys anymore. That hurt us more then a trade for a QB when we lost ours for the year. Seriously, i’ve seen playoff teams with worse QB’s and thats what you morons are focused on! How bout NO RUN GAME?!!!!!!! Dmac is on notice!
October 25th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
You know, the real point is that it is not on Palmer to validate the trade.
It’s on the person who made the trade and the org. that supported it.
Admit it Mistic, if we had made the playoffs last season and were one and done, then everything else happens and we are 2-4 now.
You would still sit there and say no validation.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Why we’re even discussing CP is beyond me. I’m more concerned with our running game and lack of creativity in playcalling.
D was gangsta last week, save for one brainfart.
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bacuase the okland tribune ran an article claiming that palmer was validating the trade through his play, i disagreed with the article along with a few others.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I think this will be another good ol fashioned AFC West slugfest.
KC will be desparate and come out swinging.
In the end, they are as one dimensional on offense as we are, probably more so because we know DMC is capbale of greatness, whereas their handicap (QB) is capable of expertly holding a clipboard and little else.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I’ll take a vet QB for a #1 for one year when we were in the thick of things.
Put it like this:
Burn a 1 this year and a 2 the following year for a shot at playoffs (and we did right up til the final whistle or close to it) or watch Boller throw away a season and draft Ryan Tannehill.
I’ll stick with door #1, gents.
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without a doubt we beat lions or sd we’re in, that was alotta fun. even the cable year was fun being in the hunt up until week 17. imagine boller for the rest of the year last year? also if we would have kept boller last year then this year we would have probably resigned Campell and i honestly appreciate what Campbell did but with Campbell right now no way we make the playoffs this year. With CP, I still have hope if we beat KC
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Carson Palmer is not a long term answer at QB. We need a franchise QB. Palmer is too mistake prone.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Mistic will keep bringing up Palmer until it’s worn out.. I wonder what would he had said if Palmer was black…MMmmmmm
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Half our team , which is called Defense , and was paid 70% of the salary of the whole team couldn’t force 1 punt in a game where they knew if they win and they make the playoffs
1 guy who we traded 2 uncertain future picks for .. who could do something or be bust .. played like his life was on the line and played a pretty well game to do what he was brought here for to make the playoffs and he put up winning # stats
yet he is getting blamed for the loss by a certain poster in here ,
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more lies
I didnt blame palmer for anything. it isnt his fault that hu jack grossly over valued palmer and reached the way he did. palmer had no shot of ever validating such a ridiculous trade.
Stop trying to change the focus of what i wrote.
did palmer validate the trade/ answer no
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How can you say overvalued CP … CP did wtf he was brought in here for ..
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we disagree, ill take hu jack at his word palmer was brought here to deliver the lombardy, nothing else.
he has fallen woefully short
October 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Mistic will keep bringing up Palmer until it’s worn out.. I wonder what would he had said if Palmer was black…MMmmmmm
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i ddint bring him up, the oakland tribune writter named corkran did
October 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
If we used the #1 on a rookie QB with 7TDs (1 rush), albeit 4 INTs with a fumble (2 fumbles?) on pace for 4500 yards, people in here would be goin ape sh;t for him.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
David Stern is retiring! Hooray!
October 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Dmac has not lived up to his number one pick status. He should be Marshall Faulk by now. He should be winning games for us by himself. We should be at least 3-3 right, 2 wins coming at the hands of him and his breakaway plays. Hasn’t happened. In fact, I wonder if we’re a better team with Goodson starting.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I’ll take a vet QB for a #1 for one year when we were in the thick of things.
Put it like this:
Burn a 1 this year and a 2 the following year for a shot at playoffs (and we did right up til the final whistle or close to it) or watch Boller throw away a season and draft Ryan Tannehill.
I’ll stick with door #1, gents.
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without a doubt we beat lions or sd we’re in, that was alotta fun. even the cable year was fun being in the hunt up until week 17. imagine boller for the rest of the year last year? also if we would have kept boller last year then this year we would have probably resigned Campell and i honestly appreciate what Campbell did but with Campbell right now no way we make the playoffs this year. With CP, I still have hope if we beat KC
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thats weird jc swept the division, palmer is 2-4
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
+ 1 rush*
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Why we’re even discussing CP is beyond me. I’m more concerned with our running game and lack of creativity in playcalling.
D was gangsta last week, save for one brainfart.
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bacuase the okland tribune ran an article claiming that palmer was validating the trade through his play, i disagreed with the article along with a few others.
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I think he is validating, if you figure in the support i think he’s playing out of his mind even with all the other deficiencies the team have on the O side .. beginning with the OC
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
I cant believe idiots are still arguing that JC is a better QB than Palmer ::rollseyes::
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
You take Hue at his word?
Well, go take a look see at the final post game presser last season.
He blames himself, Chuck B., and the defense. Especially the secondary.
Thats Hue’s word Mistic.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
If we used the #1 on a rookie QB with 7TDs (1 rush), albeit 4 INTs with a fumble (2 fumbles?) on pace for 4500 yards, people in here would be goin ape sh;t for him.
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i would be high on a rookie or tp6 with 7 tds and 7 turnovers, but plamer is a 10 year vet, he should be better
October 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Mistic will keep bringing up Palmer until it’s worn out.. I wonder what would he had said if Palmer was black…MMmmmmm
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i ddint bring him up, the oakland tribune writter named corkran did
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Oh really.. was it some one else on your name who brought up Palmer after every loss ? and never showed up when we won
October 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Raider E Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
You take Hue at his word?
Well, go take a look see at the final post game presser last season.
He blames himself, Chuck B., and the defense. Especially the secondary.
Thats Hue’s word Mistic.
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doesnt change his motivation for making the trade, which palmer has not lived up to. that is what we were discussing
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I’ll take a vet QB for a #1 for one year when we were in the thick of things.
Put it like this:
Burn a 1 this year and a 2 the following year for a shot at playoffs (and we did right up til the final whistle or close to it) or watch Boller throw away a season and draft Ryan Tannehill.
I’ll stick with door #1, gents.
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without a doubt we beat lions or sd we’re in, that was alotta fun. even the cable year was fun being in the hunt up until week 17. imagine boller for the rest of the year last year? also if we would have kept boller last year then this year we would have probably resigned Campell and i honestly appreciate what Campbell did but with Campbell right now no way we make the playoffs this year. With CP, I still have hope if we beat KC
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thats weird jc swept the division, palmer is 2-4
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unfortunately he was 2-8 against the teams out of the division
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Mistic will keep bringing up Palmer until it’s worn out.. I wonder what would he had said if Palmer was black…MMmmmmm
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i ddint bring him up, the oakland tribune writter named corkran did
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Oh really.. was it some one else on your name who brought up Palmer after every loss ? and never showed up when we won
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please stop with your lies, i have been here after every game win or lose dumb ass. if you could read you would know that
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
the fact tamba hali is calling the raiders dirty=signs of desperation. This is a rivalry, kc has TALENT on both sides of the ball and they beat the Saints in New Orleans. It’s gonna be physical, our trenchmen better be ready
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The 2010 Raiders swept the division. The 2011 Raiders did not. The 2010 Raiders were also 2-8 vs. everybody else.
Hey, we hit the reset button after 2010 and then again after 2011, two promising seasons. At least there will (probably) be some consistency at head coach now and we can build rather than hit reset.
The whole Knapp thing is kind of a big zit on a nice set of twins though, you know?
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I’ll take a vet QB for a #1 for one year when we were in the thick of things.
Put it like this:
Burn a 1 this year and a 2 the following year for a shot at playoffs (and we did right up til the final whistle or close to it) or watch Boller throw away a season and draft Ryan Tannehill.
I’ll stick with door #1, gents.
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without a doubt we beat lions or sd we’re in, that was alotta fun. even the cable year was fun being in the hunt up until week 17. imagine boller for the rest of the year last year? also if we would have kept boller last year then this year we would have probably resigned Campell and i honestly appreciate what Campbell did but with Campbell right now no way we make the playoffs this year. With CP, I still have hope if we beat KC
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thats weird jc swept the division, palmer is 2-4
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unfortunately he was 2-8 against the teams out of the division
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he was also 12-7 over all, but whos counting
October 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
i would be high on a rookie or tp6 with 7 tds and 7 turnovers, but plamer is a 10 year vet, he should be better
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Starting QB is starting QB.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
A lot of reasons to hate Stern, but let’s face it. He turned the league into a marketing juggernaut. Without his style of marketing, making Michael Jordan the household name he was, who knows what would have come of the NBA after Bird and Magic retired, and you no longer had that heavyweight title bout between the Celtics and Lakers every June. Before Stern, nobody cared about the NBA until late May, and typically only adult males attended games. He turned the games into family entertainment, and got the sport high t.v. ratings from beginning of season to end.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
thats weird jc swept the division, palmer is 2-4
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is it weird that CPs passer rating is better than Russell wilson, Cam Newton and Michael Vick while JC holds the clipboard?
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
If we used the #1 on a rookie QB with 7TDs (1 rush), albeit 4 INTs with a fumble (2 fumbles?) on pace for 4500 yards, people in here would be goin ape sh;t for him.
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i would be high on a rookie or tp6 with 7 tds and 7 turnovers, but plamer is a 10 year vet, he should be better
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Yes we now know that high has worn off after C Newton had historic season and led his team to 4-12 record and is 1-6 this year when he’s got a better D behind him this year
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The 2010 Raiders swept the division. The 2011 Raiders did not. The 2010 Raiders were also 2-8 vs. everybody else.=====
jc never lost an afc west game playing for the raiders, i kno that bothers people but it is fact. palmer is 2-4 in the division, lets see if he can climb back within sniffing distance of .500
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: i ddint bring him up, the oakland tribune writter named corkran did=============
Yeah. Mistic has never even mentioned Palmer before.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Who said reggie would have drafted tannahill?? He would have drafted for the trenches or CB help. A guy like janoris jenkins in the 2nd round.
Using that CP money on other options. Carson may have better stats then some rookies.. but doesnt mean jack if we are 2-4. A rookie could have us at that record.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I’ll take a vet QB for a #1 for one year when we were in the thick of things.
Put it like this:
Burn a 1 this year and a 2 the following year for a shot at playoffs (and we did right up til the final whistle or close to it) or watch Boller throw away a season and draft Ryan Tannehill.
I’ll stick with door #1, gents.
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without a doubt we beat lions or sd we’re in, that was alotta fun. even the cable year was fun being in the hunt up until week 17. imagine boller for the rest of the year last year? also if we would have kept boller last year then this year we would have probably resigned Campell and i honestly appreciate what Campbell did but with Campbell right now no way we make the playoffs this year. With CP, I still have hope if we beat KC
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thats weird jc swept the division, palmer is 2-4
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unfortunately he was 2-8 against the teams out of the division
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he was also 12-7 over all, but whos counting
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Oh he was the sole reason for the 12-7 record .. that’s why he’s starting for a playoff team right now .. oh wait
October 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Lets say pete caroll had palmer.. and Russell wilson. U think Wilson beats out palmer ?? lol I think he does cuz he can escape pressure.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
i would be high on a rookie or tp6 with 7 tds and 7 turnovers, but plamer is a 10 year vet, he should be better
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Starting QB is starting QB.
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game experience doesnt make a difference? wow
we live on different planets a 10 year vet should be a better player than a rookie
October 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Jason Campbell and Carson Palmer are the same quarterback and the same person. Their hearts aren’t in it. They’re both intelligent guys who could succeed without football. They don’t have that fire you need to be competitive in football. Ron Wolf talked about this. There are athletes, then there are football player. Palmer and Campbell are athletes.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Hey, say what you will, but JC was brought in to take us to the playoffs and he didn’t deliver. He got hurt but not in some freak way and not because his O Lineman whiffed. The guy couldn’t learn to slide. That was his “pick 6″ if you will.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
dumb ass
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mistic it’s immature to insult people from behind the keyboard, it’s not befitting of such an intelligent young black male
October 25th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Who said reggie would have drafted tannahill?? He would have drafted for the trenches or CB help. A guy like janoris jenkins in the 2nd round.
Using that CP money on other options. Carson may have better stats then some rookies.. but doesnt mean jack if we are 2-4. A rookie could have us at that record.
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yeah a rookie qb would have survived behind that O-line and without his best friend = Running game ..good observation
October 25th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
we live on different planets a 10 year vet should be a better player than a rookie
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He is…. I was talking stats. If a rookie had the same stats, ppl would be on his jock. My point is, the stats aren’t telling the whole story. Palmer has made the right decision on all but two plays this year.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Lets say pete caroll had palmer.. and Russell wilson. U think Wilson beats out palmer ?? lol I think he does cuz he can escape pressure.
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Oh yeah that’s why his stats are so much better than C.P
, not
October 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Agreed on Stern, Sullivan. He did exactly what a CEO should do for the brand of the NBA, but man that guy was a Grade-A d@$&hebag. I know the kind of people that make it that high in an administration are usually narcissists, but he was always so insufferably smug. Good riddance.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
doesnt change his motivation for making the trade, which palmer has not lived up to. that is what we were discussing
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His motivation was validated by the play of Palmer in the las 3 weeks of the season.
It was unvalidated by things beyond Palmer’s control.
But believe what you like, Mistic.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Why rookies do it all the time. Dolphins have a terrible pass protection line.
Seattle isnt that far off. Anything to make ur argument valid though right?? Great observation.
you are proving my point. This team was way far off from being a winning team. Trade was not valid.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
ok im out
i see that these jokers cant deal with the topic at hand which was palmer and his trade.
Instead people want to talk about qbs on different teams.
lol you cats are running out of excuses but these numbers suck
6-10 record 2-4 division record 24 turn overs in his last 16 games, with 3 for pick 6
yuck
October 25th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Wilson passed for 5 yards in the 2nd half last week with a QBR of 0.0
October 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
ok im out
i see that these jokers cant deal with the topic at hand which was palmer and his trade.
Instead people want to talk about qbs on different teams.
lol you cats are running out of excuses but these numbers suck
6-10 record 2-4 division record 24 turn overs in his last 16 games, with 3 for pick 6
yuck
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you can run, but you can’t hide!
October 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
ok im out
i see that these jokers cant deal with the topic at hand which was palmer and his trade.
Instead people want to talk about qbs on different teams.
lol you cats are running out of excuses but these numbers suck
6-10 record 2-4 division record 24 turn overs in his last 16 games, with 3 for pick 6
yuck
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Come Back soon, Ya hear?
October 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Stop acting like Palmer is the only reason we are 2-4. He already said himself he cost u the ATL game.. THe defense kept him in during the JAX game.
Did you see that horrible PICK Palmer through in that game trying to underhand it or whatever he was doing. Thats a VET MOVE??? Not being able to escape the pressure has led to mostly all of his fumbles.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
papertiger,
one man’s “smug” is another’s “resolve”.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Jason Campbell and Carson Palmer are the same quarterback and the same person. Their hearts aren’t in it. They’re both intelligent guys who could succeed without football. They don’t have that fire you need to be competitive in football. Ron Wolf talked about this. There are athletes, then there are football player. Palmer and Campbell are athletes.
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How can you say they’re both same person.. 1 guy got no offers for a starting job and still went to another team for a back up position… the other guy didn’t care if he didn’t make 10M last year, he would rather sit then play for an idiotic owner like Mike Brown what ever his name is.. why the f8kk would he come play for us, when he said he got enough money to support his life.. good observation idiot
October 25th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
i would be high on a rookie or tp6 with 7 tds and 7 turnovers, but plamer is a 10 year vet, he should be better
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Starting QB is starting QB.
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game experience doesnt make a difference? wow
we live on different planets a 10 year vet should be a better player than a rookie
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CP went to the playoffs multiple times at a younger age but in your opinion he was still not a good qb
October 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Palmer has made all of his money already.. gots like 50 million in the bank. The dude is already set. I want to see a young qb take his lumps with this team. Its a rebuilding team anyhow.. why not.
I want to see a young guy with some fire try and take this team somewhere. I prefer someone who can roll out and escape the pocket and keep those drives going.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
We can circle jerk over Palmer’s stats all we want. Is he a champion? Do you picture Palmer ever holding a Lombardi trophy? Me neither. Palmer getting to that plateau without throwing a game ending interception at some point along the line is an impossibility, and all of you know it. That’s the point. We have to start building a team for the future and stop trying to make the best of what we already have.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
ok im out
i see that these jokers cant deal with the topic at hand which was palmer and his trade.
Instead people want to talk about qbs on different teams.
lol you cats are running out of excuses but these numbers suck
6-10 record 2-4 division record 24 turn overs in his last 16 games, with 3 for pick 6
yuck
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or maybe because you don’t wanna talk about the quarterbacks because all your so called *wave of the future qb’s* lost last week.. oh wait a minute it can’t be that right.. it’s just been about Palmer all along .. yet you bring up JC had better record with us .. but he’s not here either
October 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I prefer to see PRYOR come in when the defense is tired in the 4th and do a rollout and see if they can catch him.. then stop and air one out.. or keep it like he did in that lion game.
Still cant believe they have a 6ft 5 240 pound qb who runs a 4.3 sitting in sweats on the sidelines. That guy is just begging to get in a game.. Has fire and desire. WHY NOT???
Raiders are not gonna make a deep playoff push anyhow.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Palmer has made all of his money already.. gots like 50 million in the bank. The dude is already set. I want to see a young qb take his lumps with this team. Its a rebuilding team anyhow.. why not.
I want to see a young guy with some fire try and take this team somewhere. I prefer someone who can roll out and escape the pocket and keep those drives going.
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so draft Jamarcus or Brady Quinn or Matt Leinert? if you’re in postition to draft a RGIII or an Andrew Luck then sure go for it but you don’t just draft a qb for the sake of it
October 25th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
McFadden,
Palmer’s holding a clipboard somewhere too if he’s not on the Raiders.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Stop acting like Palmer is the only reason we are 2-4. He already said himself he cost u the ATL game.. THe defense kept him in during the JAX game.
Did you see that horrible PICK Palmer through in that game trying to underhand it or whatever he was doing. Thats a VET MOVE??? Not being able to escape the pressure has led to mostly all of his fumbles.
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Yes that was horrible because he was getting killed in the pocket all game long and didn’t get time to make plays so that was a desperate move to make something happen , yet he still led us to a win after getting hit like 40 times ..
October 25th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Jason Campbell win/loss (31-39)
TD-INT 74-50
Passing yards 14,417
QB rating 82.8
Carson Palmer win/loss (52-62)
TD-INT 174-120
Passing yards 27,179
Passer rating 86.3
October 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Yes, you can draft a QB for the sake of it. You have to have a franchise QB. And when you don’t have one, you either draft the best QB available or make a move for a young free agent QB. When is the last time a team won a SB without a drafted QB? I’ll spot you Drew Brees of the Saints. Before that, it was Brad Johnson in TB. Every other SB winning QB since then..drafted franchise player. It’s part of the blueprint to winning a championship in this league.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
McFadden,
Palmer’s holding a clipboard somewhere too if he’s not on the Raiders.
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No freaking way .. you think this management would pay over 10 M for some one who should be holding a clipboard.. his stats are pretty good behind that Oline and the running game support he gets
October 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
This is the same old debate. It won’t matter. It will decide itself in the next 10 weeks.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Raiders are not gonna make a deep playoff push anyhow.
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I know right? They should just give up.
October 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
McFadden, who wanted Palmer other than the Raiders?
October 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Corrected then, McFadden. Instead of holding a clip board, Palmer would be out of the league. Still sitting by the phone waiting for Cincy to fold.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
MR, they all start as rookies?
Some of em had to sit behind a vet for a while. Maybe we already have the franchise QB on the squad. Every time — literally every time — there is a QB conference or CP is talking to the OC of HC or he’s looking at printouts, his shadow is right behind him poking his nose in, absorbing every possible detail he can.
Oh, and does Brett Favre count or is that too far back?
October 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Yes, you can draft a QB for the sake of it. You have to have a franchise QB. And when you don’t have one, you either draft the best QB available or make a move for a young free agent QB. When is the last time a team won a SB without a drafted QB? I’ll spot you Drew Brees of the Saints. Before that, it was Brad Johnson in TB. Every other SB winning QB since then..drafted franchise player. It’s part of the blueprint to winning a championship in this league.
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Teams don’t let good young quarterbacks walk away to free agency .. they trade them like Atl did with Matt Schaub but they don’t let them walk way like that.. and how many of the top quarterbacks that have been drafted in the past few years are playing at a high level? Cam Newton? .. draft is just a crap shoot.. we got ourselves a good QB for a bargain .. i say a Bargain because 17th pick is not much of sure lock game changer..2nd round picks are just 50.50 .. it’s really hard to get a good QB
October 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
OC or HC*
October 25th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Palmer after this game will be around the No.8 rated QB in the league. With the 32nd ranked dead last rush attack and not one star 0-linemen, not 1 pro-bowl WR, TE or RB ….
STFU if you don,t know anything about QB play in the NFL
October 25th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
You guys have about as much chance of Seeing Pryor at Qb as we have of hearing Mitt Romney keeping a policy for more than 3 days… Isn’t gonna happen.. As long as Palmers healthy Hes gonna be the Raiders starter …Pryors best option is to watch and learn all he can…
October 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
They sit behind the vet because the vet has potential to win a SB. They’re making a Super Bowl run. We are not making a Super Bowl run, and any fan who thinks we are is drinking the dum dum juice. It’s one thing to be a hard core fan but another to be that blind. We are a rebuilding franchise, in the first year of new ownership and management. And since there is no chance whatsoever of Carson Palmer taking this team to a super bowl, the time is next April to look into the QB of the future. Or February, if there’s a free agent.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
McFadden, who wanted Palmer other than the Raiders?
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Maybe a lot of teams , remember Cincy owner would have rather let CP rot away then trade away CP for 1st pick , it’s probably because of Hue Jackson connection he traded to us , who knows how many offers they got for him and even better offers for him and M Brown said No
October 25th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Palmer…. Best chance to win.. Period…
October 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
We have as much chance of seeing pryor at qb as Palmer has at taking us to a championship game. Yes it could happen.
Which is more likely to happen first?
n nobody is talking about giving up.. its talking about giving the young players a chance to play
October 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
They sit behind the vet because the vet has potential to win a SB. They’re making a Super Bowl run. We are not making a Super Bowl run, and any fan who thinks we are is drinking the dum dum juice. It’s one thing to be a hard core fan but another to be that blind. We are a rebuilding franchise, in the first year of new ownership and management. And since there is no chance whatsoever of Carson Palmer taking this team to a super bowl, the time is next April to look into the QB of the future. Or February, if there’s a free agent.
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we need to freakin get better OC and better receivers and better help at OL to start winning .. this management is committed with the QB, otherwise they would have tried to find out other cheap quarterbacks like TP and Lienart have to offer
October 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
A crap shoot is better than sticking with a veteran who you know won’t win a Super Bowl.
Let’s see a show of hands right now, of anyone here who honestly believes Carson Palmer will be holding a Lombardi trophy someday. This should be hilarious.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
We have as much chance of seeing pryor at qb as Palmer has at taking us to a championship game. Yes it could happen.
Which is more likely to happen first?
n nobody is talking about giving up.. its talking about giving the young players a chance to play
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Young players chance to play?? give the young guy a chance to play over the only good thing going for us on the offensive side .. yeah that makes perfect sense
October 25th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
McFadden, who wanted Palmer other than the Raiders?
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Maybe a lot of teams , remember Cincy owner would have rather let CP rot away then trade away CP for 1st pick , it’s probably because of Hue Jackson connection he traded to us , who knows how many offers they got for him and even better offers for him and M Brown said No
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If 2 teams involved in trade were the sane kind, Palmer get traded for 2nd rounder.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Palmer gonna get booed like red headed step child when go to Cincinnati. Except for Andy Dalton, who is red headed step child but won’t be booed.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
MCFadden,
No doubt there’s question marks in the coaching staff, too. But we know Carson Palmer is not taking any team to a Super Bowl. We’re on the same page here, aren’t we? Tell me you don’t think Carson Palmer will be hoisting the Lombardi someday. Let me know you’re at least sane.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
“maybe a lot of teams” (wanted Palmer).
hahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Uh, I was hoping you could name one…
October 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
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October 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
maybe a lot of teams wanted Palmer. ….
Hahaha. Line of the day.
lol. Some of you are too much.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Carson Palmer will have a CAREER year and the Raiders will still be LOSERS and 6-10 . And whats even more pathetic is that these LOSER fans will be happy still because they have a ELITE QB who’s GREAT at LOSING !(but throws for 4000 yrds whoopie !) REAL losers!
October 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
This teams playing to win the next game… Not a championship… That’s reality…. And Palmers the best shot to win the next game…. They’ve said it all year… One game at a time…it’s a free country… Want Pryor at Qb all ya want …. But it’s not gonna happen…and Pryors isn’t THIS Raider teams best shot to win the next game…argue away … Palmers the starter …
October 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
A crap shoot is better than sticking with a veteran who you know won’t win a Super Bowl.
Let’s see a show of hands right now, of anyone here who honestly believes Carson Palmer will be holding a Lombardi trophy someday. This should be hilarious.
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why do you think he can’t , remember organizations win championships not 1 player.. if the Raiders can build a team of good 53 players then we can win.. 1 guy never leads to a championship.. yeah let’s say Brady is all this .. yet they barely won any SB by freaking a FG in freakin low scoring games…. Eli won games.. yes he made sum crazy throws . but don’t tell me his D is not the reason’s the didn’t win games.. rem last year A.Smith almost made the superbowl and nobody would ever mistake A smith better than CP but it was His D that almost that took him that far.. His D knocked out elite quarterback D Brees and almost knocked another quarterback who was better then their own teams QB.. so don’t tell me we got no chance
October 25th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Maybe Greg Knapp is the best OC in football. I mean, if it’s possible that “a lot of teams” wanted Palmer (even though we can’t name one…), it’s also possible that Greg Knapp is an offensive genius.
I mean…maybe.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says: We have to start building a team for the future and stop trying to make the best of what we already have.========================================
Who is this ‘we’ you’re referring to Sully49er? Don’t see any other whiners in here. And here’s my hand up high, seeing Palmer hoisting a Lombardy.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Raider fans are so Pathetic they celebrate the GREATNESS of being a LOSER . Carson Palmer is the GReatest 2-4 QB of all time ! YEAH !
October 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Instead people want to talk about qbs on different teams.
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Lol, don’t you love how Mistic serves up a plate of propaganda where the main course consists of QBs from different teams, then when everyone realizes what’s on our plate is better and calls out his offering, he tries to deny that he set it there in the first place?
Lol at Mistic.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
ALL im saying is Palmer is playing very well despite the overalls teams poor level of play. If the team get better in a few areas, this team will catch fire.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
McFadden,
It was a simple question.
Do you see Carson Palmer winning a Super Bowl? As a starting QB? Do you see it happening? Do you honestly, genuinely, earnestly believe it will happen? That’s the question.
I’ll give you a frame of reference.
I see Eli Manning winning another Super Bowl. I see Aaron Rodgers winning another. Do you see Carson Palmer winning a Super Bowl? Do you believe it will happen? It’s a yes or no question.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
actually it makes more sense behind this OFFENSIVE line.. yes it does. Believe me Reggie is gonna see what he has in PRYOR before the season is over. He is just gonna see if they have real shot at the playoffs.
If they lose against the queefs which is a strong possibility coming off their bye.. Raiders would be 0-3 in the division. Steep climb.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
“maybe a lot of teams” (wanted Palmer).
hahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Uh, I was hoping you could name one…
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I’m just speculating .. maybe some team had same offer for Palmer but Mike Brown said no because he wanted payback on CP but until his old friend Hue called , he did that.. i mean who know’s wtf went down .. you are an idiot if you think they didn’t get offers for Palmer… teams aren’t that stupid they give away 1st and 2nd round picks for some 1 who they think isn’t good enough to lead them anywhere
October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
This blog has become trash.
A bunch of losers kicking their own team.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Palmer is rocking like a Swede now. If DMac stop being lazy we can win Super Bowl.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Carson Palmer the Greatest Raider QB of all-time ! That is SAD !
October 25th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I will be kicking black bloc azz if they try to destroy our downtown tonight. Believe it!
October 25th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Maybe Greg Knapp is the best OC in football. I mean, if it’s possible that “a lot of teams” wanted Palmer (even though we can’t name one…), it’s also possible that Greg Knapp is an offensive genius.
I mean…maybe.
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And you act like you worked in the Cincinnati organization to come out and say no team asked for Palmer.. LMFAO
October 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
thats what happens when you have 10 straight losing seasons pal. What else is there to talk about?
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
There were plenty of teams that wanted Palmer, but none who wanted him enough to surrender a #1 pick for him.
Do I see Carson winning a SB? No, but that’s because I don’t think the team around him can improve fast enough before he starts to age.
But I still HOPE he will. Things change fast in the NFL, not too long ago that people were asking the same question about Eli.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
McFadden,
It was a simple question.
Do you see Carson Palmer winning a Super Bowl? As a starting QB? Do you see it happening? Do you honestly, genuinely, earnestly believe it will happen? That’s the question.
I’ll give you a frame of reference.
I see Eli Manning winning another Super Bowl. I see Aaron Rodgers winning another. Do you see Carson Palmer winning a Super Bowl? Do you believe it will happen? It’s a yes or no question.
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If A Rodgers or Eli Manning were with the Raiders , do you think they would have looked as good as they look now , and do you believe they would lead us to the playoffs?
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
It seems to me that CP is just okay, worth about half the money we paid him and a second round pick to Cincy.
Mark should have known that narcissitic, pimpin fool of a Hubert Jackson couldn’t get us to the playoffs.
I think Boller could have won at least 2 games, same as CP, last season. So why break the bank to get CP?
If Mark had sacrificed the season last season (which he did, though unintentionally), why go through with the CP trade?
We end up hiring Big Head (Knapp) and sacrifice this season.
The question I ask is why do we even need Palmer?, when we have essentially sacrificed last season and this season. We won’t get in the playoffs this year. Broncos will tie that up the AFC west – Manning wouldn’t have it any other way.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Name a team that wanted Palmer?… The Raiders…he’s here… Signed till 2016
October 25th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
If palmer didnt do it with the bengals.. most likely wont do it with Raiders.. and yes the raiders have not been that far off from the bengals the last 10 years.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The 2010 Raiders swept the division. The 2011 Raiders did not. The 2010 Raiders were also 2-8 vs. everybody else.=====
jc never lost an afc west game playing for the raiders, i kno that bothers people but it is fact. palmer is 2-4 in the division, lets see if he can climb back within sniffing distance of .500
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Mistic, you gotta stop with the CP3 hating bruh, dude is by far the best player on the team right now and he’s doing with a crap oline in front of him I’m black Mistic and I clearly see CP3 is light years ahead of ANY black qb in the league RIGHT NOW maybe in the future RGlll and CAM and Wilson will be better but as it stands now CP3 is head and shoulders above them all. you always speak on Carsons stats well what the hell do you expect when you play for losing orgs like the Bengals and Raiders your whole career. If CP3 was playing for a top flight org like the Pats, Eagles,Steelers,Ravens then you would see those stats you covet so much. but he doesnt so its been what its been for him period CP3 is a top 10 QB in this league and he is showing it by Carrying our crap team so far with an incompetent OC no run game and an oline thats getting him killed out there just sayn bruh at the end of the day you gotta keep it real.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Still cant believe they have a 6ft 5 240 pound qb who runs a 4.3 sitting in sweats on the sidelines.
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Thats the best place for him at this point.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Davy Jones Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
There were plenty of teams that wanted Palmer, but none who wanted him enough to surrender a #1 pick for him.
Do I see Carson winning a SB? No, but that’s because I don’t think the team around him can improve fast enough before he starts to age.
But I still HOPE he will. Things change fast in the NFL, not too long ago that people were asking the same question about Eli.
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How do you know teams didn’t wanted to surrender # 1 picks.. Did u work in Cincinnati Bengals organization last year? M Brown wasn’t going to let CP go to any team for just 1st round pick, so we had to give up another high pick to get him .. how do you know other teams didn’t offer him a first.. maybe they didn’t wanted to offer 2 high picks which i can agree with but Palmer is def worth 1 1st round pick
October 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says: Drew Brees of the Saints. Before that, it was Brad Johnson in TB. Every other SB winning QB since then..drafted franchise player. It’s part of the blueprint to winning a championship in this league.===
Well, Sully, I believe Eli Manning was drafted by the chargirls.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
in 2009 palmer finished with a 83.6 rating
2010 palmer had a 82.4 rating.
He has had career years before
October 25th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RaidersOne Says: I think Boller could have won at least 2 games, same as CP, last season. So why break the bank to get CP? ============================================
No confidence that’s true.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Raiders 27 – Chiefs 20
October 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Sullivan, do you mind bringing me up my box of smokes, 6 pack of steel reserve, newspaper and one of those spam sandwiches, lightly toasted with some miracle whip? Also, I need a foot rub, so bring me some moisturizer. I need you to work my elongated toes and bunions. Working 3 jobs to support the amount of electricity you waste down in the basement, is taking its toll on me and my feets.
Please don’t forget to take your lithium, as I see one of your personalities is out speaking crazy. Thank goodness it’s not your Harbaugh act, he’s feisty. Thank you my little man boy!
October 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Later stern. Idiot…. now put the league back to 28 teams so it will be compeditive again you greedy little fùck.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
They sit behind the vet because the vet has potential to win a SB. They’re making a Super Bowl run. We are not making a Super Bowl run, and any fan who thinks we are is drinking the dum dum juice.
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Uhhh, most teams that are drafting a franchise QB did so because they sucked and no shot of winning a SB and have a stop gap vet that the rookie can learn behind or they just throw the young man to the wolves.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
I feel CP is a good QB, but not elite.
Here is my question to the other bloggers:
If we are re-building, sacrificed last season, this season, and next season to that re-building, why pay a king’s ransom for CP? And why not play TP, to find out what he has in talent and bankability for the future?
I am not sure myself, and that is why I ask.
October 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
OAK would be 0-6 if CP3 was a bad as everyone says he is.
Guess people would rather watch that in here?
October 25th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Jacques Doucet @JacquesDoucet
Huge breaking news – Former #LSU Tigers Jordan Jefferson, Tyrann Mathieu, Derrick Bryant + Karnell Hatcher all arrested on drug charges.
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wowwwwwwwww
October 25th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Told u! I dont want any players from LSU!
October 25th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Peytons Brain Says:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Carson Palmer will have a CAREER year and the Raiders will still be LOSERS and 6-10 . And whats even more pathetic is that these LOSER fans will be happy still because they have a ELITE QB who’s GREAT at LOSING !(but throws for 4000 yrds whoopie !) REAL losers!
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So, on a Thursday night a WINNER like you has nothing better to do than hang out with a bunch of loser Raider fans on a blog?
What does that say about you?
It says YOU are the LOSER.
October 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
If this blog is any indication, Raider fans really are the biggest azzhole fans of any team in the league.
I say IF this blog were any indication. The reality is that half the dikwads on here are NOT Raider fans but are such loser idiots that they hang out here anyway.
Go to your own teams blog unless you’ve already been kicked out of all of them.
October 25th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
http://www.prothink.tv/?p=749 ===== THE TRUTH
October 27th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Did a fly by on me. Why can’t you roast marshmallows on a gas grill? Or was that like the time I promised a girl that…oh, never mind.