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Raiders take umbrage with Hali’s ‘dirty’ remarks

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Kansas City Chiefs outside linebacker Tamba Hali either hasn’t seen the Raiders play this season, or he simply is doing his part to stoke the fires of a rivalry game between two teams with a combined 3-9 record.
For, Hali came out of nowhere with comments about how the Raiders play dirty and he and his teammates are on high alert.
“It’s a tradition,” Hali told the Kansas City Star in advance of Sunday’s game at Arrowhead Stadium. “The Raiders, they come in, they cheapshot, they hit you.”
Hali didn’t get into specifics, just made a blanket accusation that might have carried weight last decade.
“I’m not saying names,” Hali said. “It is what it is. We’ve got to be ready to play and keep our composure, stayed poised and be able to get this win.”
Raiders fullback Marcel Reece took Hali’s comments as a compliment.
“If somebody’s talking about you, you’re doing something right,” Reece said. “You’re doing something good. We play hard. We don’t play dirty. But everybody has their right to their own opinion. Obviously divisional opponents are going to feel it a little more because it’s a rivalry. Those weeks are different. Hey, he has his right to his opinion. Like I said, if somebody says something about you, it means you’re doing something right.”
Without going over every penalty committed by the Raiders this season, none springs to mind that would validate Hali’s claim.
The Raiders set league records for penalties (163) and yards penalized (1,358) last season. However, this season the Raiders have been pretty well behaved in terms of penalties, especially the personal foul variety.
“The core guys that have been here, they understand what we’ve got going on Sunday,” Hali said. “(The Raiders) are coming in, and they’re a good team and a fast team and they play dirty. We’ve got to come out swinging.
“We’ve got to be ready for that. You can let these guys come in and if they do it and you let them do it, they’re going to enjoy themselves doing it and they’ll run over you. So you have to be prepared for that and stay with the game plan.”
Reece said Hali’s comments probably owe to the Raiders reputation as renegades over the decades.
“I love it,” Reece said. “I love it. You’re going to keep hearing it forever. It’s that mystique, I guess.”
Raiders defensive back Michael Huff tried to avoid the situation before offering a tepid response.
“I don’t think we’re dirty,” Huff said. “I just think we play physical, aggressive football, like it’s supposed to be played.”
Raiders coach Dennis Allen predictably stayed above the fray.
“He’s entitled to his opinion,” Allen said of Hali.

– If nothing else, Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel is a realist.
On Thursday, Crennel was asked by reporters why he removed a sign outside the locker room that said: “Eliminate Bad Football” and replaced it with one that reads “Play Good Football.”
“I thought that after we put that ‘bad’ football sign up, we didn’t eliminate bad football,” Crennel said, “so I thought maybe if I changed it and put up the sign that said ‘play good football,’ we might play some good football and put that in the forefront of their mind.”
Crennel is fond of displaying signs that he hopes will lead to positive thinking by his players.
After a 1-5 start, Crennel felt the need to go another direction.
“You get a feeling about a sign or about a phrase that somebody has said something or something like that, you put the sign up,” Crennel said. “It’s a buzz point to get them thinking about things. Sometimes it’s pictures, sometimes it’s signs.”
Someone then asked Crennel if he thought about putting up a sign that says, “Win the Super Bowl.”
Crennel’s response?
“We’re not ready for that yet.”

– Chiefs quarterback Brady Quinn is one of the players former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin wanted to select in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft, according to Al Davis.
Davis said Kiffin changed his mind several times along the way, with Davis ultimately overruling Kiffin and others in the process in favor of quarterback JaMarcus Russell with the No. 1 pick.
For the record, Kiffin said he wanted wide receiver Calvin Johnson, which is what I heard from several other people involved in the process.
Either way, Quinn was picked by the Browns and played his first three seasons there before being traded to the Denver Broncos for running back Peyton Hillis and a sixth-round draft pick.
Quinn didn’t play in any games for the Broncos the past two seasons. Now he is attempting to resurrect his career with the Chiefs, who suddenly aren’t sold on Matt Cassel as the long-term answer.
Coincidentally, the Raiders played the Browns in 2007 and ’09, but Quinn didn’t play in either game. Therefore, Sunday marks the first time the Raiders will face Quinn in a game.
Quinn is one of the players the Raiders interviewed before the ’07 draft, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp confirmed.
The top six quarterbacks in that draft class were Russell, Quinn (No. 22), Kevin Kolb (No. 36), John Beck (No. 40), Drew Stanton (No. 43) and Trent Edwards (No. 92).
“John DeFilippo, our quarterback coach, and I were with him, and John put him through a pretty rigorous interview process,” Knapp said of Quinn. “He did a fine job in the interview process. Extremely bright, understood football, based on what the coaches had told us and his interaction, he really seemed to love football. Was always around it, and wanted to do the extra stuff, before practice, after practice. And so I was very impressed with him.”
Knapp said Russell, Quinn and a third quarterback that he couldn’t recall were under consideration by the Raiders in that draft. One story from that time had the Raiders interested in Edwards in the second round.
“It was still a pretty good battle, because on tape there were three guys I believe that year that came out, there was a pretty good competition going on that you really had a chance with any of these to make it work,” Knapp said.
As it turned out, none of those quarterbacks did, or have done, much of note. Russell was released after three season and is out of the game.

– Said it numerous times during the offseason, and I’ll say it again: No team is going to run away with the AFC West this season and there’s no reason why the Raiders can’t emerge with their first division title in 10 seasons.
Need more proof? Things are so jumbled in the AFC West that the Raiders can awake Monday either tied for first place with the Denver Broncos and San Diego Chargers or tied for last place with the Chiefs.
For the former to happen, the Raiders need a win over the Chiefs and losses by the Broncos to the New Orleans Saints and the Chargers to the Browns. In that case, all three teams would be 3-4. If the Raiders lose Sunday, they drop into a last-place tie with the Chiefs at 2-5.

– Given the Raiders had 19 players on the injury report the past two days, Allen backed off a bit this week.
“We’ve got some bumps and bruises,” Allen said. “Most of those injuries are not anything that I would believe would keep us out of a lot of games. The guys are banged up a little bit. We took the pads off of them a little bit this week trying to get some of them back.”

– Allen still isn’t committed on whether he will activate linebacker Aaron Curry for Sunday’s game.
Curry is in his second week of practice after returning from the physically unable to perform list. The Raiders have a little less than two weeks left before they are forced to decide whether to activate Curry, waive him or place him on the injured-reserve list.
One thing is certain: If Curry returns, he will do so as a backup at all three positions.
“Yeah, that’s the way I would look at it,” Allen said. “He’s an experienced player, so his ability to play multiple positions would help us. Hopefully his health is going to be fine, and we’re going to be able to get him back out there.”

– Defensive end Desmond Bryant was held out of practice today because of a sore elbow. Allen said he isn’t sure yet about Bryant’s status for the Chiefs game.
“We’re hoping that he’s going to be able to practice (Friday) and then we’ll be able to make a decision after that,” Allen said. “We’ll wait and see how he does tomorrow, how he practices. That’s what our mindset is. I believe that’s what his mindset is also.”

– The fact running back Darren McFadden suffered his season-ending foot injury against the Chiefs in Game 7 last season isn’t lost on McFadden as he prepares to play the Chiefs in Game 7 this season.
The injury occurred one year, two days ago. McFadden had this to say about how much progress he has made since the Lisfranc injury to his right foot.
“Well, as far as my injury thing goes, I’m very happy with (the progress),” McFadden said. “But at this time last year, I feel like I was a lot more productive as far as yardage and things. So, that part of it, I can’t say I’m not happy about it but I would have liked for it to have been more right now.”
McFadden had 611 yards through six games last season. He has 324 at that point this season.

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  • Just Fire Baby

    bandwagoners, or bangwagoners, whichever one works best for you, lol.

  • VanHeathen30

    Would the ‘Bangwagon’ be for the ladies only?

  • Marks hair

    We need to draft S phillip thomas from fresno st. Kids a ballhawk. Leads the ncaa in takaways and ints. He will tie the single season records for pick 6s with his next one. And he’s getting better everyday under coach and hofer tim mcdonald

  • Crawbevy Feels

    knapp is trying to run the team into the ground so DA will get fired and knapp will be the ‘next guy up’. knapp will be our HC next season. You heard it here first.

  • DJ Johnny

    1-4…getting blown out AT HOME 17-3 to the worst team in the league, without their QB and top player (MJD)and having just recovered an onside kick, and now staring 1-5 in the face…that has to be the lowest Raider fan moment in the last 3 yr’s.

    Then they come back and now we’re only a game out of first with plenty of season left.

    Weird how this all plays out sometimes.

  • Marks hair

    Best second half? Against the AAA jags? Who cares?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Tim McDonald’s son is also a 1st or 2nd round prospect from USC.

    Thomas from FSU will be tested in the run game this weekend, when the Lobo’s roll-out our 1930′s offense and go literally hours in reall time, without attempting a pass.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Best second half? Against the AAA jags? Who cares?

    ******************************

    We didn’t play any AAA teams last year?

  • Marks hair

    This is knapps last stop as an oc at this level.

  • Just Fire Baby

    This is knapps last stop as an oc at this level.

    **************************

    Yup, his next stop will D-I head coach.

  • Crawbevy Feels

    Marks hair Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    This is knapps last stop as an oc at this level.
    ***********************************************
    If he isn’t named HC next year. After all, he is trying to ruin this team and get DA fired so he can be named the new HC.

  • Marks hair

    Fsu hasnt been the same team on the road. Im sure it will be a test.

  • hwnrdr

    Crawbevy Feels Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    Marks hair Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    This is knapps last stop as an oc at this level.
    ***********************************************
    If he isn’t named HC next year. After all, he is trying to ruin this team and get DA fired so he can be named the new HC.

    Oh gawd no!

  • hwnrdr

    LOL…Peyton Manning is now the proud owner of 21 Papa John’s Pizza stores across the Denver area!

  • Just Fire Baby

    One thing about the Bucs though, is they are a physical team with a nasty D-Line.

    Not that skilled, and we have the better QB, but that is going to be a tough, physically draining game.

    We need to house the Chiefs, and not be fighting tooth and nail to win that game, so we can be moderately fresh for the dog-fight the next week will present.

  • VanHeathen30

    TB is taking on the demeanor of their coach for sure.
    Vincent Jackson has been a problem for us for years…
    got to take care of biz on the road this week.

  • hwnrdr

    And Ronde Barber still playing very good at 37! You know he will go for the ball with DMAC and Goodson!

  • morilla

    A friend is a native Vikings fan. He said TE other day that the Vikings are the most overrated team in the NFL. Defense is average and the offense is only AP. Looked that way last night.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Ronde is a ball-hawk for sure.

    Branch does as good a job running away from the ball as Ronde does running to it.

  • theghostronin79

    Doug Martin is hungry too. He runs hard and will not go down on first contact. Gotta focus on that little turd. Our game with TB could go just like last nights game. We have to OUT physical those guys.

  • inonewordraider
  • inonewordraider

    theghostronin79 Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    Doug Martin is hungry too.
    _____________________
    if we stop jamaal charles, i’m going out on the limb and saying teams can’t run on us

  • theghostronin79

    Ponder was under durress most of the night. Can expect the same or worse for Palmer. Plus they pretty much shut down Peterson…..For the most part. Where does that leave us? Can’t be running deep routes all game. Seems like we run alot of LONG developing plays. Once in awhile Palmer actually gets 3-4 seconds. Watch him waiting and searching…and still have to roll out of the pocket.

  • theghostronin79

    Man, Charles ran amuck against Baltimore. I know their Defense is aging and not what it ONCE was but…..C’Mon, it’s freakin Baltimore, and KC pounded them all day. That game was theirs for the taking, and they pissed away their opportunities with mistake after mistake……Kinda reminds me of another team.

  • DJ Johnny

    Raiders need to unleash Burris on the QB.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Raiders defense is better than the Ravens.

    Man, that felt good to type.

  • Kirk

    I’m Um from Umbrage.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I will get a kick out of watching Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson outplay Stan Routt.

  • DJ Johnny

    424,

    Keep in mind that it’s now been 3 weeks in a row of teams running amok on Baltimore.

    Not to diminish the importance of being wary of Charles this week.

    I don’t see us blwoing out KC..maybe cuz we haven’t blown anybody out for a long time.

  • DJ Johnny

    427.Kirk Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 8:21 am
    I’m Um from Umbrage.

    Where have the Raiders taken you?

  • Just Fire Baby

    I don’t see us blwoing out KC..maybe cuz we haven’t blown anybody out for a long time.

    ***********************

    Our last blow-out win was……..week 17, 2010 in KC.

    Long live Tom Cable

  • theghostronin79

    Yeah DJ, Last Blowout I remember was in Denver. NOBODY saw that SH*T coming, and it even more awesome cause it was the Donks. I was so damn giddy, hoping around the living room and laughing. Our victories are never “Well in hand”. I just want that knot in my chest to not be there in the 4th Quarter. Shoot, the tension is there NOW, and it’s only Friday.

  • DJ Johnny

    432,

    Yes Ghost. I remember that game well. McFadden went crazy and we just embarrassed them.

    59-14.

    With JC at the helm no less.

  • Plunketthead

    LOL…Peyton Manning is now the proud owner of 21 Papa John’s Pizza stores across the Denver area!

    Elway got auto dealerships
    Manning gets pizza stores?

    Frankenpeyton will have to sell a hell of a lot of pizzas to make up the diff

  • DJ Johnny

    1-4 put us in a deep hole. We have to beat KC then Tampa Bay just to get to 4-4 THEN we have to keep on winning.

  • DJ Johnny

    434.Plunketthead Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    LOL…Peyton Manning is now the proud owner of 21 Papa John’s Pizza stores across the Denver area!

    Elway got auto dealerships
    Manning gets pizza stores?

    Frankenpeyton will have to sell a hell of a lot of pizzas to make up the diff

    Then he overrides Papa’s desire to only give away 1 million free pizzas by insisting on giving away 2 million…who the hell’s running the show here?

  • Just Fire Baby

    The 2010 team stopped having meaningful games after 14 of them, last year all 16 were.

    The goal this year is to split the difference. Our 15th game has to still have something on the line.

    I think it will.

  • theghostronin79

    It’s all about the opening possession man. In games where we’ve driven down and got a TD on the 1st possession, we’ve done real well. I know it happens so rarely. Maybe even getting a few 1st downs. Anything but 3 and out.

    2 yd run….
    Wheel route, 2yd loss…..
    Incomplete pass…..
    Punt….

    The other team’s 1st play from scrimmage
    12 yd pass across the middle…..1st down

    The forehead rubbing begins, and lasts for the next 58 minutes.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Want a first down the first drive?

    Three passes at Routt; chances are you will get one flag out of it.

  • Just Fire Baby

    How about Stan Routt’s quote that he is getting paid by half the AFC West?

    Really focused on the priorities eh? I am sure he is not at all bothered that he is 1-5.

    No suprsie, he was one of the first roster cuts by The Reggie.

  • DJ Johnny

    JFB,

    I remember that game too. I also recall being on this blog during that game and Sullivan coming on and criticizing us for watching it, saying it was an “exhibition” game…he said he was watching some other show cuz he was above watching a “meaningless game”.

    I think that game was 31-10?

    It got us to 8-8 and prompted the now famous “we’re not losers anymore” comment.

  • theghostronin79

    LOL……TRUTH

  • DJ Johnny

    440.Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 8:42 am
    How about Stan Routt’s quote that he is getting paid by half the AFC West?

    Really focused on the priorities eh? I am sure he is not at all bothered that he is 1-5.

    No suprsie, he was one of the first roster cuts by The Reggie.

    On his website he lists his salary as one of his “accomplishments”.

    What a dik.

  • Plunketthead

    Long live Tom Cable
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    The man gets no love or respect in here yet he ended the decade of picking in the top 7.
    Went 6-0 in the division. Looked the part, loved the part, played he part.

    My hope is the future generations will appreciate the man that has the pimp hand who works wonders wherever he goes.

    Come to think of it my Cable jersey becomes more valuable to me by the day

    NO KNUCKLEHEADS,,,,,,,, SLAP

  • Plunketthead

    435.DJ Johnny Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    1-4 put us in a deep hole. We have to beat KC then Tampa Bay just to get to 4-4 THEN we have to keep on winning.

    We need to go 4-2 in our next 6 games. Puts us at 6-6 and in the drivers seat with 4 left.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Reggie McKenzie would have considered keeping Cabes on as HC.

    Never crossed his mind with Hue.

  • Plunketthead

    Getting close to the trade deadline, isnt it?
    I would not be suprised if Reg made a big trade or two. For draft picks or maybe for a missing piece but I doubt that. Too many missing pieces and not enough good players.

    Chances are he would dump any big contracts that player wont deal on. Palmer, TK., McFad in order to hit the market next year.

    Many big headed bloggers do not realize what a nightmare that must have been for Reg when he started looking into cap space numbers and out of whack paychecks.

    This summer you can bet that the Raiders will be one of the biggest movers in FA

  • Plunketthead

    So what was whitlock implying here? Sounds like he called peytonstein a juicer

    Broncos fans are on my butt about my early-season comments that Peyton Manning was “toast.” OK, he’s not toast. I was wrong.

    Manning’s arm magically got stronger. He looks great. I don’t mind being wrong. It’ll happen again. I’d love to know how and why Manning’s arm got stronger, and that’s not a sarcastic criticism. But we went from Manning’s arm being “it is what it is” to being better than what it was.

    The AFC is weak. I can see Manning and the Broncos taking advantage and winning the AFC Championship. Right now I see the Texans and Broncos in the AFC title game.

  • Just Fire Baby

    If we trade anyone, I think it will be TK.

    Interior pass-rushers have value, and can be put into a game in a short turnaround. Rushing the passer on 3rd and 9 is the same no matter where you are.

  • DMAC

    Morning/afternoon peoples!