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Bryant back at practice, looks good to go Sunday

By Steve Corkran
Friday, October 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am in Oakland Raiders.

Key defensive lineman Desmond Bryant returned to practice today after missing one day with a sore elbow. Therefore, it’s likely he will be ready to play Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
We’ll know for sure in about an hour, when coach Dennis Allen convenes with the media for a few minutes before the team boards waiting buses for a ride to Oakland Airport on their way to Kansas City.
Bryant has played a key role as part of the Raiders defensive line rotation, spelling players from time to time so that those guys can remain fresh deep into the game.
In addition, Bryant is one of Oakland’s most consistent producers on defense. So, having him healthy enough to play Sunday is critical to the Raiders overall chances against the Chiefs.

– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) and right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) are not practicing once again. Allen on Monday that they were “doubtful” for the Chiefs game. That likely will change to “out” once we meet with Allen in a bit.

– Not much else to report from the field, given media access was limited to 8 minutes today.
Typically, the media are granted 30 minutes at practice each day. However, league rules stipulate that teams are allowed to end media access after 30 minutes or whenever they break into full-team drills.
Such was the case today. Let’s hope it’s an aberration and occurred only because the Raiders are cutting short practice in lieu of their early departure for the airport.

– Otherwise, the Raiders appear near full strength heading into the Chiefs game, even if 17 other players are listed on the injury report.
The biggest question mark is, outside linebacker Aaron Curry. He is practicing again today for the sixth straight time since he returned from the physically unable to perform list.
Allen left open the possibility of Curry being activated to the 53-man roster in time for the Chiefs game. They Raiders have 12 more days or so before they are forced to make a move with Curry.
If Curry is activated, it’s likely that he would be used on special teams and as a backup at all three linebacker spots.

– The Raiders are using piped-in crowd noise at practice, which seems almost laughable for a game against the 1-5 Chiefs.
Chiefs fans booed when starting quarterback Matt Cassel got hurt at a home game earlier this month. Hence, the boos for the Chiefs might pose more of an issue for the Raiders than cheers, as used to be the case at games there.

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  • RaiderSam

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    Two 1sts for McFadden?

    LMAO!!!

    You realize he is about 5 years into his career, with 1 good year, and 4 crappy and/or injured ones?

    We couldn’t get Two 4th’s for him

    ———

    uh, it’d be a first for McFadden in addition to the first round pick we already have for 2013

  • Marks hair

    We wouldnt have been picking 17th with boller finishing the season. 4-12..

  • Marks hair

    Dmac isnt worth a 1st to any gm out there.

  • Just Fire Baby

    uh, it’d be a first for McFadden in addition to the first round pick we already have for 2013

    ***********************

    Ahhhhh……well it didn’t read that way, but my apologies.

    I don’t think we could get a first straight up for him either, we would probably have to package a 5th with McFadden to get a late first.

  • guest123

    Top ten picks are overrated. I’d be happy with picking in the teens. Usually means you get a guy who is a position of need as well as BPA. Those first picks are high risk and high reward types that flame out half the time or more. The value picks are in the middle first round. Good teams stock up on the gems of the draft that are overlooked in the mid first. And it’s a signal usually that if you draft in the mid first, your team isn’t that far away. The teams that draft at the top suck so bad, it’s pretty much a 2 year rebuild at a minimum. We don’t need to tank and set the franchise even more in the toilet. That’s not good business and it will mean we will have to bid against ourselves to lure in any good free agents.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Sam, Palmer has had some good games, and will have more. But he’s mistake prone. Bad in the clutch. Just doesn’t have that “it” factor. He will never win a Super Bowl. We both know that. At some point we have to address the future of the QB position. Carson isn’t it. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. Carson Palmer does not fit into that goal, except maybe as a backup.

  • guest123

    It’s 4:20

    Where’s MIKE at?

  • LA to TheBay

    All one needs to do is look at DMC’s numbers with Knapp as OC and with Hue as OC/HC.

    Pretty self explanatory.

  • Raider Riff

    Since we are back to blaming Knapp or at the very least, pondering our run game woes. Let me once again break it down for you guys as simple as possible…

    These are the simple facts that are the REAL reasons our run game isnt working, and they are independent of whatever scheme we are running.

    1. Wiz 2.0 should be at LG and not C. He is not having a good year by any stretch.
    2. Brisel is routinely getting beat physically
    3. Meyers is routinely getting beat physically
    4. Veldheer is having a off year
    5. Coop is a year too long in the tooth

    ZBS relies on scheme to beat the D. PBS relies on shear physicality to beat the D. When you look at the tape, we are getting beat physically 9 times out of 10 so it makes no sense to be calling for a run scheme that relies so heavily on us overpowering the defense. I think the problems may just get worse.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    this board is like a vacuum, in space, what happens in here fhas nothing to do with reality outside of this vacuum.

    Check out what this writter thinks about palmer

    Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland Raiders

    Carson Palmer is not the long-term answer for the Oakland Raiders at quarterback. At some point this season the Raiders will have to explore options.

    Oakland is struggling to produce consistently on offense and is falling out of the AFC West race. While Palmer may not be the only (or even main) reason for the team’s struggles, someone is always the scapegoat for failure.

    The Raiders gave up a lot to get Palmer on the roster and the wins have not followed his arrival. He is going to be moved out of the spotlight by season’s end.
    - Nick kastora

    =====

    Looks like everybody outside of this board sees what i and a few others see

    interesting

  • guest123

    Yeah, and tell me who on earth would have thought that Jim Plunkett would ever win a Super Bowl, much less two of them? Don’t try to write a history for Carson Palmer as if you have the Sport Almanac of 2025. I have it as a matter of fact and the only thing I will share with you people is that Norv Turner wins NADA in this lifetime. You’ll have to wait and see if Carson wins a SB though (not telling).

  • R8ER MIKE

    guest123 Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    It’s 4:20

    Where’s MIKE at?

    ********************
    SMOKIN !!!
    toke up my GreenParty brothers !!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Once again, this game is going to boil down to one thing: our pass rush. The Kansas Sh**ty offensive line has played very well. We haven’t. It is doubtful Kelly and Seymour will get much push up front, and our DE’s have been even worse. Lamar Houston has had one good game at end. No one else has. If Andre Carter can’t bring it early in this game then This might be the time to see if So’oto can come in and do something. Anything.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    I’m not happy with Knapp, either. But no respectable organization throws out its OC at the behest of a veteran retread QB. Breaks protocol. Bad for morale. Would put the other coaches on edge. New Raiders’ management does not do that.

  • guest123

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    All one needs to do is look at DMC’s numbers with Knapp as OC and with Hue as OC/HC.

    Pretty self explanatory.

    **********

    Oversimplification. DMC mailed it in long ago. Needs to wake the eff up!

  • LA to TheBay

    This board knows FAR more about the Raiders than national and even some local sports media.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Carson is on the bubble, not Knapp. If I’m Carson I’m practicing a little harder every day, making sure I never throw that bad pass again.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    this board is like a vacuum, in space…….

    *****************************

    SKIP

  • Al_is_theraiders

    mad stupid is contagious in here…zbs has us running nowhere…but se are getting beat physically? wtf? zbs is scheme…

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Here you forgot one thing:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    this board is like a vacuum, in space, what happens in here fhas nothing to do with reality outside of this vacuum.

    Check out what this writter thinks about palmer

    Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland Raiders

    Carson Palmer is not the long-term answer for the Oakland Raiders at quarterback. At some point this season the Raiders will have to explore options.

    Oakland is struggling to produce consistently on offense and is falling out of the AFC West race. While Palmer may not be the only (or even main) reason for the team’s struggles, someone is always the scapegoat for failure.

    The Raiders gave up a lot to get Palmer on the roster and the wins have not followed his arrival. He is going to be moved out of the spotlight by season’s end.
    - Nick kastora, Denver, Colorado

  • Marks hair

    155. I have to dissagree with all of that.. last yrs record has little to do with this yrs record.. thats an easy stat to follow..
    The top pick in the draft has the first choice. So theres no excuse if you draft a dud. And theres little risk with the new cba.
    And most FAs follow the money or coaches they are comfortable with. I dont think was will have trouble atracting fas next yr. Do you?

  • Plunketthead

    Raiders 41 – fat red ahole army oozing Bbq sauce 17

    This is the week that the Macfad cycles back on. He will look like that horse in the little ceasers commercial.
    Brady Quinn may be the first player to come out of the closet but he wont beat the Raiders

  • Marks hair

    Wash not was

  • Just Fire Baby

    Don’t try to write a history for Carson Palmer as if you have the Sport Almanac of 2025.

    ************************

    A back to the future reference?

  • JamesPlunkett

    mistic I can’t stand CP , so Cork and a bunch of sheep who said we were gonna have a top 5 D BWAAAAH worst Secondary(before injuries) worst LB core and just avg DL, nobody but Hue was gonna get him off that couch so that tells you what the rest of the GM think of CP.

  • LA to TheBay

    guest123,

    I remember these same types of conversations 2008 and 2009 about DMC. Then all of a sudden he’s a different player in 2010, 11?

    There are several reasons a team struggles to run, most of the blame usually falls on the O Line. But at some point, you have to just realize that we have one of the worst play-callers in the NFL.

    There’s nothing wrong with the scheme, it’s the guy teaching it and the square peg we’re trying to fit in a round hole.

    DMC isn’t going to just get used to it. I don’t think it will just come around. This trap, stretch BS that Knapp runs doesn’t suit DMAC. He’s been in Knapp’s system for 2.5 years and it always looked bad.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    All one needs to do is look at DMC’s numbers with Knapp as OC and with Hue as OC/HC.

    Pretty self explanatory.
    ==========================================

    Didn’t McFadden take three quarters of the season off last year?

  • guest123

    LA to the Bay,

    I agree with what you said there about Knapp, but certainly you have seen DMC trip over his shoelaces and make very poor and impatient reads and cuts this year. I don’t think it’s just the system. He looks completely out of his element. He’s lost his swagger.

  • The Big Banana

    -Nick kastora, Denver, Colorado

    ——

    Lol! There is no limit to the depths at which some in here will go to promote their propaganda.

  • guest123

    see ya all Nation bros. Have a good one!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    who is the next RGIII? well it isnt geno smith, smith is very athletic but he dioes not have the spped of RGIII. where they compare is deadly accuracy operating form the pistol, and being very smart with the football. Smith has 25 td and zero ints and is completing more than 70% of his passes. he is nimble in the pocket but is more of a jc , rich gannon type that can pick up a 3rd and 7, but he wont bust a 50 yard td.

    He is the best qb in his class though by far and I would be happy if we were able to get our hands on him if tp 6 is deemed not to be the answer.

    Actually the players that i think are most like rgIII would be senior ej manual, and sophmore (my absolute fav) TEDDY BRIDGEWATER louisville.

    This kid reminds me very much of rgIII and had he chosen a big florida school you would already know of him.

    Same old story though, how did he end up at loiusville? Well Miami fsu and florida recruited him but would not let him compete at the only position he has ever played….QUARTER BACK.

    Thank god for charlie strong and loiusville otherwise we would be robbed of watching one of the best qb prospects in college regardless of graduation class.

    Find out about him

  • Just Fire Baby

    What does any of these excuses have to do with his ability to catch a ball thrown 5 yards in the air?

    I swear he has transformed into a RB with below average hands.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Smith has 25 td and zero ints and is completing more than 70% of his passes.

    *****************************

    Umm….I guess you typed this up last weekend?

    He threw two picks last week.

  • RaiderSam

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Sam, Palmer has had some good games, and will have more. But he’s mistake prone. Bad in the clutch. Just doesn’t have that “it” factor. He will never win a Super Bowl. We both know that. At some point we have to address the future of the QB position. Carson isn’t it. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. Carson Palmer does not fit into that goal, except maybe as a backup.

    ===================
    OK, i get that. So lets say we move on from Palmer. Is the viable replacement even in this draft – Barkley? Geno Smith (who regressed of late, particularly v. K-State).

    I think there is a paralysis on developing a QB, do we roll the dice with T-Pryor, and take our losses until the 2014 draft? EJ Manuel? Zac Dysert? (who also has a rather high INT total, but a bunch of yards – he is on track to break Rothelisberger’s school records).

    Although we would be changing the direction YET AGAIN – I understand the moment has come that we may have to consider alternatives, since the new GM and coach inherited the QB from the last regime.

    I understand all your points and begrudgingly agree, but maybe Palmer turns the corner….it is the age of the QB, and have already missed the next wave (Wilson-Luck-RGIII-Weeden-Ponder)

    Sigh. Yet another piece to build, but things look headed in that direction, sadly.

  • RaiderSam

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    I’m not happy with Knapp, either. But no respectable organization throws out its OC at the behest of a veteran retread QB. Breaks protocol. Bad for morale. Would put the other coaches on edge. New Raiders’ management does not do that.

    ——————-

    øk, lets project 6-10 (wins coming v. KC, Cleveland, San Diego and a upset special against somebody, maybe Arizona gives us the 18th pick overall (1st)

    that puts us at pick 8, 9 or 10 in this VERY early projection for 2013

    lets project us going on defense (David Amerson, CB, N.Carolina St. or pass rusher Jarvis Jones)

    we give up the 2nd to Cincinnati for Palmer

    we take E.J. Manuel with the 3rd or again with defense (Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St)
    or S Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma

    we give up a conditional mid round pick in the Curry trade (so that means we either have a fifth or a fourth

    we’ll need a tackle as Seymour will move on so thats Anthony Rashad-White of Michigan or Cory Grissom in the fifth

    i go as far as Braden Hughes of BYU at OG then another DT Montori Hughes with the later picks.

    lets throw out DMC – he’s in a contract year , so some team that is “close” will take a flyer on him for a low first – lets say RB Marcus Lattimore.

    Our QB is Terrelle Pryor, we take a backup QB off the heap, possibly Shaun Hill or Tavaris Jackson

    so thats

    1 Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia or Dee Millner, CB, Alabama
    1 Marcus Lattimore, RB, S.Carolina or Demonte Moore Tex A&M
    2 to Cincinnati
    3 Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St. or Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
    4 to Seattle
    5 Anthony Rashad-White, DT, Michigan St.
    6 Braden Hughes, OG, BYU
    7 Melvin White, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette

    FA
    CB Sam Shields or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
    DT Dwan Edwards or Sedrick Ellis
    OT Ryan Clady
    QB Shaun Hill

  • gangosix

    Geno Smith=Jamarcus 2.0

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