Bryant back at practice, looks good to go Sunday
By Steve Corkran
Friday, October 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am in Oakland Raiders.
Key defensive lineman Desmond Bryant returned to practice today after missing one day with a sore elbow. Therefore, it’s likely he will be ready to play Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
We’ll know for sure in about an hour, when coach Dennis Allen convenes with the media for a few minutes before the team boards waiting buses for a ride to Oakland Airport on their way to Kansas City.
Bryant has played a key role as part of the Raiders defensive line rotation, spelling players from time to time so that those guys can remain fresh deep into the game.
In addition, Bryant is one of Oakland’s most consistent producers on defense. So, having him healthy enough to play Sunday is critical to the Raiders overall chances against the Chiefs.
– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer (foot) and right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes (groin) are not practicing once again. Allen on Monday that they were “doubtful” for the Chiefs game. That likely will change to “out” once we meet with Allen in a bit.
– Not much else to report from the field, given media access was limited to 8 minutes today.
Typically, the media are granted 30 minutes at practice each day. However, league rules stipulate that teams are allowed to end media access after 30 minutes or whenever they break into full-team drills.
Such was the case today. Let’s hope it’s an aberration and occurred only because the Raiders are cutting short practice in lieu of their early departure for the airport.
– Otherwise, the Raiders appear near full strength heading into the Chiefs game, even if 17 other players are listed on the injury report.
The biggest question mark is, outside linebacker Aaron Curry. He is practicing again today for the sixth straight time since he returned from the physically unable to perform list.
Allen left open the possibility of Curry being activated to the 53-man roster in time for the Chiefs game. They Raiders have 12 more days or so before they are forced to make a move with Curry.
If Curry is activated, it’s likely that he would be used on special teams and as a backup at all three linebacker spots.
– The Raiders are using piped-in crowd noise at practice, which seems almost laughable for a game against the 1-5 Chiefs.
Chiefs fans booed when starting quarterback Matt Cassel got hurt at a home game earlier this month. Hence, the boos for the Chiefs might pose more of an issue for the Raiders than cheers, as used to be the case at games there.
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October 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Good to see Bryant back. Get healthy “false start” Barnes. We need you!
October 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Cut Franceees and activate Curry!!
October 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Barnes was playing pretty good when he went down. Thought the backups would perform better. I guess they are still too raw…
October 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
she’s a beauty… that #9…
October 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Sorry kpark, you missed it by much!
October 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8553749/ranking-nfl-teams-watchability
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It’s funny and true what he says about the Jags.
They have traditionally been a franchise that relies on ball control and stout defense. Which is a very North East style of play. Found and more importantly, appreciated, in cities that have crappy weather.
That org needs to realize that the Chicago Bears blueprint for football wont sell in sunny Florida…. especially with Florida U right next door. That state likes Spurrier, Charlie Ward @ FSU, Dan Marino, and now the Miami Heat.
Heck, this goes against everything I just said but they would have been smart to have drafted or traded for Tebow. Big mistake by that franchise. He fit their mold AND would have sold tickets and possibly showed that fanbase a style of football they arent used to but would learn to appreciate. Other than Tebow, I dont see how they will ever sell “ball control” football in Florida.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bill Barnwell from Grantland ranks the teams according to entertainment value. (drum roll please) The Raiders are….#32!
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In a related note, I just ranked NFL bloggers according to their knowledge of football. Bill Barnwell from Grantland ranked somewhere between Snooki and Oakfoshow…
October 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Worried about another team coming off the bye week.
And the fact that Cork is going ALL IN on the prediction of Raider blowout. Last time he did that the Raiders got torched by Punklip Rivers and SD’s punter only saw the field while holding extra points….
October 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
LOL Duck! I actually laughed out loud at that…thanks.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
hahahahaha….some funny ish RaiderDuck….
October 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
In a couple of years the Jaguars will be the LL.A. Lazers or the L.A. Stars, or the L.A. Invaders.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
I see this game being a much taller task than it may look on paper and so do the “so called experts” picking the game. Would like to see the streak in KC go to six, but… we will see. Go Raiders – no turnovers – no stupid penalties – stop the run.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:47 am
First, you have the demographics all wrong. Jacksonville and “sunny Florida” don’t really belong in the same sentence. That’s rednick country up there and they are mainly Gator fans first and then Jags fans second. They will travel en masse to Gainsvill to see the Gators but can’t be bothered with going to a local Jags game. It’s got nothing to do with being a fancy air-it-out team. The face of the franchise could change and still Jacksonville will always treat their NFL team like it was second fiddle. Saturdays rule in North Fla and Sundays are for churchgoing and potlucking.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:48 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bill Barnwell from Grantland ranks the teams according to entertainment value. (drum roll please) The Raiders are….#32!
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In a related note, I just ranked NFL bloggers according to their knowledge of football. Bill Barnwell from Grantland ranked somewhere between Snooki and Oakfoshow…
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He’s actually really knowledgeable. I do disagree with him about the Raiders, though. Even when they are bad, they are entertaining. There used to be the Al Davis factor, or the possibility of a meltdown.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
JLofty Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Worried about another team coming off the bye week.
And the fact that Cork is going ALL IN on the prediction of Raider blowout. Last time he did that the Raiders got torched by Punklip Rivers and SD’s punter only saw the field while holding extra points….
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Yep. The patented Corky “blowout prediction” always feels like the kiss of death.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
The Raiders are using piped-in crowd noise at practice, which seems almost laughable for a game against the 1-5 Chiefs.
Chiefs fans booed when starting quarterback Matt Cassel got hurt at a home game earlier this month.
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It seems like Cork really doesn’t have any respect for the Chiefs. He seems to think the Raiders are going to blow them out.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I am also worrying about our tendancy to make $#itty QBs like Matt Moore, Tannebaum, etc, etc look like Peyton freakin Manning. So underestimating Brady Quim is making me a little acidy in the stomach…
Although we did treat that Michigan kid poorly last weekend. Quim will have the whoe bye to prepare…
October 26th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I have to keep telling myself it is a new world order at 1220 Harbourbay Parkway and not to let the ghosts of Al Davis teams of the past 30+ yrs color my perspective.
Maybe that’ll happen when Tommy Kelly is no longer taking snaps…
October 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I’m not too worried about Bowe, mainly because KC’s QB Brady Quinn is a chitty QB that can’t throw the deep accurate ball with zip to meet Bowe at his high point. Raiders can play zone most of the day and take him away.
The guy I am worried about a little is Dex McCluster. Quinn loves to checkdown to him and he’s a fast guy who can be explosive in the open field and make people miss.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Henne pretty much showed that he’s been mailing it in every film session with Jax. The guy should have been cut after that disaster. Palmer looked more in sync during the KC game last year having just walked in off the street.
But your point is valid. Our team has a way of making crappy QBs look great. As well as crappy RBs (remember Bernie Parmalee?)
This is a trap game. Especially for our Oakland Raiders. If you arent worried, you havent been paying attention to this team for the last 25 years.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
There is always the possibility that Quinn plays well. But, he has never played well in his career. This game has a big downside to it if the Raiders lose. They can’t lose anymore AFC West games. And, if the Raiders to lose to Quinn, they will officially be the joke of the league.
October 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
This is a trap game. Especially for our Oakland Raiders. If you arent worried, you havent been paying attention to this team for the last 25 years.
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I’m worried, but I don’t see it as a trap game. I really doubt the Raiders go into this game thinking this is an easy win. They know the Chiefs game is always a dog fight.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I’m not too worried about Bowe, mainly because KC’s QB Brady Quinn is a chitty QB that can’t throw the deep accurate ball with zip to meet Bowe at his high point. Raiders can play zone most of the day and take him away.
The guy I am worried about a little is Dex McCluster. Quinn loves to checkdown to him and he’s a fast guy who can be explosive in the open field and make people miss.
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We said the same about Gabbert before last week. And until he got hurt, he was lighting us up. We said the same about Tannenhill as well.
What did we do the last time we came off a win… gainst a divisional rival… on the road? Yeah, we should all be VERY worried right now.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Can’t play afraid though. Can’t worry about “what if we lose, we’ll be the laughing stock….yada yada….”
We got to go out and play our game, our gameplan. Impose our plan of attack on them, control the pace of the game with no-huddle on offense. On defense, we have to fly to the ball like we did at ATL. We have to commit 11 men to all out ferocity with the committment of getting the KC offense off the field in 3 plays.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
In three years this team wont have much of Al’s players.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
We said the same about Gabbert before last week. And until he got hurt, he was lighting us up. We said the same about Tannenhill as well.
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By lighting us up, the big play that I remember was that punt pass to Cecil Shorts where Branch was halfway off the sideline and lost in coverage. We made Gabber look better than he is with blown coverage. Just stick to the basics, play sound schemes and follow out the plays and we’ll destroy the Chefs.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I get to see this game on TV for the first time this year. You know what that means, right? It means Raiders lose 27-0.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Can’t play afraid though. Can’t worry about “what if we lose, we’ll be the laughing stock….yada yada….”
We got to go out and play our game, our gameplan. Impose our plan of attack on them, control the pace of the game with no-huddle on offense. On defense, we have to fly to the ball like we did at ATL. We have to commit 11 men to all out ferocity with the committment of getting the KC offense off the field in 3 plays.
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Agreed. Entirely.
We must dictate.
Win the turnover battle. Win the field position battle. And win the penalty/major mistakes battle. Those are all relatively easy things to ask for.
We do those things, one quarter at a time, for 60 minutes, and this thing will be a cakewalk when its all said and done.
The problem is, we havent seen a full 60 minutes out of this team in a LONG time.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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yup
October 26th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
It would be our Luck that Just Quinn Baby will Light us up like a Christmas tree. Seems to happen more often than not with this team..
October 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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Gabbert was 8 for 12 with 110 yards and a TD. With a 17-3 lead when he went out. While missing his all-world running back.
That is called lighting us up.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
there hasnt been a qb who didnt light up reggies secondary this year….why would quin be any different?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Granted, Branch’s F-up and Adams fumble had a lot to do with those stat lines. But the fact is, that game was looking like a blowout until they had their second major injury and it still took us 3 quarters to finally limp past them on the scoreboard.
That wont work against the Chiefs.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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Gabbert was 8 for 12 with 110 yards and a TD. With a 17-3 lead when he went out. While missing his all-world running back.
That is called lighting us up.
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They were all short passes except for the blown coverage.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
there hasnt been a qb who didnt light up reggies secondary this year….why would quin be any different?
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That can happen when both your starting corners get knocked out for extended periods.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
It would certainly help our cause if we came out playing like we did in the mid and late second half last week and not like the first 2.5 qtrs.
Holy cr@p I never thought a football team could be that creative finding ways to lose a game…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
there hasnt been a qb who didnt light up reggies secondary this year….why would quin be any different?
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That is what Im saying.
We have every reason to be concerned right now.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If it’s true that they were lighting us up and ahead by 14 pts, why did they on-side kick to us? Because they were counting their lucky stars and hoping they could outlast us somehow. Jags know they suck, deep down. That’s a play that an underdog makes who is desperate for a win.
And no matter that the lead back was out. Raiders have held 4 of their 6 opponents to 54 yards rushing or less this year. They held ATL and JAX to less than 100 yards COMBINED.
No team can salt away a second half lead if the ground game isn’t working. It’s why the Jags panicked.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
there hasnt been a qb who didnt light up reggies secondary this year….why would quin be any different?
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Reggie’s secondary has been injured all year.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
thats why abp/klas is so out of touch on how bad reggies team is…he dont watch the games…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
and BTW, “Reggies secondary” has been hurt.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Reggie is tanking.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
We have every reason to be concerned right now.
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I’m not concerned about Quinn. I’m concerned about Charles and their defense.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
AlistheRaiders, why do you have such a h@rd-on for Reggie McKenzie? Did he dump your momma on the alter or something?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
thats why abp/klas is so out of touch on how bad reggies team is…he dont watch the games…
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I watch every single game Beeecham. I don’t see how you do when your so busy taking dumps and waxing your pubes.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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Branch is on my schit list. He’s horrible in coverage.
Glad to see MM finally contributing.
MM needs to keep working hard and push Branch for the starting gig.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If it’s true that they were lighting us up and ahead by 14 pts, why did they on-side kick to us? Because they were counting their lucky stars and hoping they could outlast us somehow. Jags know they suck, deep down. That’s a play that an underdog makes who is desperate for a win.
And no matter that the lead back was out. Raiders have held 4 of their 6 opponents to 54 yards rushing or less this year. They held ATL and JAX to less than 100 yards COMBINED.
No team can salt away a second half lead if the ground game isn’t working. It’s why the Jags panicked.
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All valid points.
But we arent going to get so lucky with injuries this week. We cant count on it.
And the Chiefs got more talent than the Jax and will be just as desperate while playing in front of fans that actually care.
The effort/execution we put forth against Jax will not work this week.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Anyone know our overall record playing teams coming off their bye week? Anicdotally I’d say it was .250 or similar.
Nevermind I don’t wanna know…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Raiders on defense need to stay home and on the edges and force Jamaal inside where he’s easily stuffed. Flush out McCluster for the short gains and contain his yards after catch. If they do that, they have taken away their best weapons. After we get ahead by 2 scores, Quinn will be running for his life in the second half. Actually, I’m pretty dang optimistic about this one. Not just the usual koolaid. KC sucks.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
JLofty Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
AlistheRaiders, why do you have such a h@rd-on for Reggie McKenzie? Did he dump your momma on the alter or something?
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Norco pines for the halcyon days of the mid 2000s, when we set an all-time NFL record for futility.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Branch needs to return punts and let 3×4 get some more snaps on regular D…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
The effort/execution we put forth against Jax will not work this week.
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No sh*t. We play that way against any other team in the league it’s a blowout.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Stop Charles!
Force Quinn to beat us.
Give help to Smith(RT)
Protect CP3
We win.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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Gabbert was 8 for 12 with 110 yards and a TD. With a 17-3 lead when he went out. While missing his all-world running back.
That is called lighting us up.
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They were all short passes except for the blown coverage.
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So what?
You think Quinn cant do the same short passes and then Branch isnt capable of blowing another coverage?
There is nothing saying that we wont be down 17-3 again this week until this team shows us they can back up a win with 60 minutes of football. 30 minutes wont cut it this week, just like it hasnt all year.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
even wth those two back up corners, they would play zone twenty yards off…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Reggie inherited a team that was a cunt hair away from the playoffs and neutered it.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I admit I was wrong……
I truly thought KC would be much better than the Donkies.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Duck, through the miracles of modern chemistry and fine distillers of Canada, I have managed to wipe clean the entire mid-00decade of Raider history from my so-called memory…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I haven’t watched the Queefs much this year so far. Are they as bad as Cork thinks or is this another landmine?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Reggie inherited a team that was a cunt hair away from the playoffs and neutered it.
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He inherited a mediocre team that was only close to the playoffs because we played in a horrid division. Had we made the playoffs last year, we would have been lucky to lose our wild-card game by 30 points.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Riff,
Agreed that we certainly are not executing or putting in the effort needed thru all 4 quarters to beat a playoff caliber team right now. But the margin of error is big with this game. I don’t think the fanbase cares anymore, and I expect some noise early. But the stadium will empty at halftime if we are up by 14 or more. They just don’t have the stomach to watch or root for their team to comeback anymore. Deep down, the Chiefs players know the fanbase doesn’t support them too.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
So what?
You think Quinn cant do the same short passes and then Branch isnt capable of blowing another coverage?
There is nothing saying that we wont be down 17-3 again this week until this team shows us they can back up a win with 60 minutes of football. 30 minutes wont cut it this week, just like it hasnt all year.
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He still didn’t light us up.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Stop the run, Rattle Quinn, Burn routt and Have #20 break a couple long runs.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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Gabbert was 8 for 12 with 110 yards and a TD. With a 17-3 lead when he went out. While missing his all-world running back.
That is called lighting us up.
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That’s how I saw it too. Made probably the 2nd worst QB in the league look like Payton Manning.
And our Offensive Running Scheme made the worst run defense in the league look like the Houston Texans.
KC ain’t a gimme unfortunately unless we play better, we’d lose.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Dwayne Bowe is begging to be traded to Miami ahead of the trade deadline. I am concerned that he’ll bring his A game on Sunday for his own personal reasons of boosting his trade value.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
So what?
You think Quinn cant do the same short passes and then Branch isnt capable of blowing another coverage?
There is nothing saying that we wont be down 17-3 again this week until this team shows us they can back up a win with 60 minutes of football. 30 minutes wont cut it this week, just like it hasnt all year.
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He still didn’t light us up.
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He didnt play the whole game either. I dont know what else you want to see out of 1 quarter of play. But he was on pace for 350+ yards without MJD. Thats called the beginning of being lit up by anyones standards but yours.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
The Raiders are using piped-in crowd noise at practice, which seems almost laughable for a game against the 1-5 Chiefs.
Chiefs fans booed when starting quarterback Matt Cassel got hurt at a home game earlier this month. Hence, the boos for the Chiefs might pose more of an issue for the Raiders than cheers, as used to be the case at games there.
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Really Cork? Raider fans weren’t booing last Sunday?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Gabbert wasn’t lighting the Raiders up. He made one good throw because Branch f*cked up again.
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Gabbert was 8 for 12 with 110 yards and a TD. With a 17-3 lead when he went out. While missing his all-world running back.
That is called lighting us up.
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The chiefs haven’t led a game for a single minute, but I’d expect that trend to finish this week unfortunately. Not sayin’ we’ll lose, but we haven’t been playing so great ourselves.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Good, trade Bowe today!!
October 26th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I used to expect #20 to rip off at least a couple of big gains. Now I don’t hold my breath. The O-line, blocking scheme, and DMC himself have all regressed. Yes, even DMC deserves some blame. At this point, put the game in Palmer’s no huddle and hope he can dink and dunk us down the field. It’s really the only thing that is working.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Really Cork? Raider fans weren’t booing last Sunday?
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I heard them booing all over the place during the first half.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
The Jags could still end up getting Tebow this year.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Need to come out the locker room like someone stuck a M80 under our cleats…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
The Raiders are using piped-in crowd noise at practice, which seems almost laughable for a game against the 1-5 Chiefs.
Chiefs fans booed when starting quarterback Matt Cassel got hurt at a home game earlier this month. Hence, the boos for the Chiefs might pose more of an issue for the Raiders than cheers, as used to be the case at games there.
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Really Cork? Raider fans weren’t booing last Sunday?
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Right on KK you where in the O. So you tell Cork to kick rocks!!!
October 26th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Riff,
Agreed that we certainly are not executing or putting in the effort needed thru all 4 quarters to beat a playoff caliber team right now. But the margin of error is big with this game. I don’t think the fanbase cares anymore, and I expect some noise early. But the stadium will empty at halftime if we are up by 14 or more. They just don’t have the stomach to watch or root for their team to comeback anymore. Deep down, the Chiefs players know the fanbase doesn’t support them too.
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Agreed.
With exception to the Jax game, we havent had a game yet (even the Denver debacle) that we werent in position to win by halftime.
If we are up by 14, I would expect the Chiefs fans to fold. But I also wouldnt put it past us to give that lead up. Lets be real here.
I agree, our margin for error is big in this game. But not as big as Jax. And we dont usually play well coming off wins.
In reality, we SHOUDNT be worried about KC. But we are the Raiders. We should be worried until we prove otherwise.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
But he was on pace for 350+ yards without MJD.
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yeah and that pace slowed down quite a bit after he got his labria separated.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
becuz reggie is a con…cant find talent if it hit him in the face…trying to turn the raiders into the whiners…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Really Cork? Raider fans weren’t booing last Sunday?
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Right on KK you where in the O. So you tell Cork to kick rocks!!!
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Kell, did you hear the boos when you were collecting cans outside the stadium?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
If I were drunk at the Coli last Sunday, Ida boo’d that cr@ppy effort too…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
becuz reggie is a con…cant find talent if it hit him in the face…trying to turn the raiders into the whiners…
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That’s not what anybody who’s ever worked with him says…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
But he was on pace for 350+ yards without MJD.
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yeah and that pace slowed down quite a bit after he got his labria separated.
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Well unless we can count on that happening to Quinn and Cassel, we should be worried.
We’re going in circles here. If the rebuttle you guys have is that Gabbert got hurt, that isnt a very reassuring stance going into this KC game where its clear that simply injuring the starter wont be enough.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Now even if we beat up KC, it doesn’t make us a good team. But it does indicate we are taking baby steps to becoming a good team. This division sucks and we can be in it till the end or at least be a spoiler. Wins tend to build confidence and embolden rookie and untested players into journeymen vets. We got some easy games to grow on and get better hopefully.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
A 2-4 team, needs to worry about everything.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Really, bLaine Gabbert has a labia?!? I thought that long blone hair looked suspicious…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Now even if we beat up KC, it doesn’t make us a good team. But it does indicate we are taking baby steps to becoming a good team. This division sucks and we can be in it till the end or at least be a spoiler. Wins tend to build confidence and embolden rookie and untested players into journeymen vets. We got some easy games to grow on and get better hopefully.
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Agreed.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I guess Brady’s got a Quim so maybe I should’a known…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
JLofty Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Really, bLaine Gabbert has a labia?!? I thought that long blone hair looked suspicious…
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lol
Reminded me of Sunshine from Rember the Titans.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
A 2-4 team, needs to worry about everything.
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Everything except for a QB that is playing some of the best football of his career.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
JLofty Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Really, bLaine Gabbert has a labia?!? I thought that long blone hair looked suspicious…
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lol
Reminded me of Sunshine from Rember the Titans.
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Remember The Titans with Denzel Washington
October 26th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
2-4…porous pass defense, cant score….yeah thats improvement.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If we can get to 4-4, all bets are off. It’s a whole new season. A whole new season in which our coaching staff has settled in and has a very good idea of what it is working with in this roster.
We ALL wanted 4-4 at the midway point. And we all felt that if we got there, we’d be right on pace to make a playoff run.
Once again, a very controllable destiny lies right at our doorstep. Can this team finally deliver? 2010 nope. 2011 nope. 2012?????
October 26th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
becuz reggie is a con…cant find talent if it hit him in the face…trying to turn the raiders into the whiners…
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Shut up Beeecham.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If we can get to 4-4, all bets are off.
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If your grandmother had nuts……….
October 26th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
2-4…porous pass defense, cant score….yeah thats improvement.
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We’re not even halfway through Year 1 of an unprecedented, expansion-team-level rebuild.
Patience, grasshopper.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Totally Sunshine! I am surprised Gabbert was able to stand on the sidelines after that injury.
I would imagine tearing your labia has to hurt something awful…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If we can get to 4-4, all bets are off.
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Once we’re even, we’re leaving…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I see Kook is off his meds again…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If we can get to 4-4, all bets are off.
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If your grandmother had nuts……….
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Spoken like a true Raider-hater
I see the hangover has finally worn off and Kool Kell has stumbled down to the local library to use their internet. I expect his many sock puppet alias’ to follow.
So with that, I bid the blog adue for the time being. See y’all tomorrow morning early. I try to get here before all the derelicts wake up from their drunken haze. We get some good football talk going most mornings.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Kell,
What concerns you the most about the team right now, and do you think they are on he road to improvement or is it more of the same ?
Serious question, not yanking your chain here.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
If your grandmother had nuts……….
********and if obummer had nuts….
October 26th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
JLofty Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Totally Sunshine! I am surprised Gabbert was able to stand on the sidelines after that injury.
I would imagine tearing your labia has to hurt something awful…
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The team doctors and trainers have lots of “wowie sauce” in their bags. That’s how Tony Romo went back in last year in SF to beat the Whiners.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
JLofty Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I see Kook is off his meds again…
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Thanks for reminding me.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Still I would feel better if Spencer and Bartell were back at practice and getting back in game shape. Even one of them would shore up the sec and at least make it “passable” yuk yuk…
October 26th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Raider Riff Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If we can get to 4-4, all bets are off. It’s a whole new season. A whole new season in which our coaching staff has settled in and has a very good idea of what it is working with in this roster.
We ALL wanted 4-4 at the midway point. And we all felt that if we got there, we’d be right on pace to make a playoff run.
Once again, a very controllable destiny lies right at our doorstep. Can this team finally deliver? 2010 nope. 2011 nope. 2012?????
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Excellent post. I cautiously share your optimism. At 4-4, we’d likely be tied for first by then as the other teams are going to be knocking each other off. It’s a 8 game season. First team to 5 wins in the second half wins.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Kell do you have a link to the latest presidential polls?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
2-4…porous pass defense, cant score….yeah thats improvement.
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We’re not even halfway through Year 1 of an unprecedented, expansion-team-level rebuild.
Patience, grasshopper.
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Patience is what teams going in the wrong direction preach. Winners create success.
If the changes were right, we’d be improving. Plain and simple as I see it.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Edward Teach Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Kell,
What concerns you the most about the team right now, and do you think they are on he road to improvement or is it more of the same ?
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Seriously, I don’t know.
Serious question, not yanking your chain here.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Kell, did you hear the boos when you were collecting cans outside the stadium?
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KK better not be horning in on Jamista Clowns racket.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Dan78 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Kell do you have a link to the latest presidential polls?
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Odds are it’ll be a replay of 2000, but in reverse. 0bama will lose the popular vote, but win the electoral (and the Presidency).
October 26th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
How many times have you seen teams implement new schemes, whole new personnel changes and had it vastly improved. Like the Texans when they hired their new D-Coordinator went from last to almost first. They didn’t have to preach “patience”.
Payton Manning in his new scheme with new personnel in his first year under a new offensive coordinator isn’t preaching patience. They’re successfully implementing a plan to their strengths.
Heck, even the crappy Broncos last year were at least creative having the worst QB in history (probably even worse than JaMarcus at throwing the ball) and worked out a way to at least play somewhat to his strengths to keep themselves competitive. Totally unorthodox, but implementing the limited crap that he had.
Look at us – when Hue came here with a new QB, no WRs at all, and one of the worst offenses in the league and turned it around practically overnight.
If it starts looking worse than it was, then you’re doing the wrong thing. If it starts looking better than it was, you’re doing the right thing.
Which way would you say our offense is moving this year?
October 26th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Edward Teach Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Kell,
What concerns you the most about the team right now, and do you think they are on he road to improvement or is it more of the same ?
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Seriously, I don’t know.
Serious question, not yanking your chain here.
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I think defense is definitely on the road to improvement. Might be bumps, but moving in the right direction eventually I think. I think Offense needs some change, but it already has the firepower so if someone actually implemented things that worked it could turn back around immediately.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I worry about only one player this weekend, and that is Javier Arenas in the return game.
Other than that, we are going to pancake these fools!!!
October 26th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Well, that’s the thing. You’re talking about Peyton Manning. We’re stuck with Carson Palmer. We don’t need to go back to an archaic vertical offense. We need a franchise QB.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
The Mitt is going to get 300 electorals.
With Michigan, Wisconsin and Colorado actually in play now, O’bumski is toast.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
The Mitt is going to get 300 electorals.
With Michigan, Wisconsin and Colorado actually in play now, O’bumski is toast.
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300? Not likely. The winner’s getting 280 or so, tops.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Palmer throws a pivotal interception Sunday to blow the game. Mark it.
KC 24
Raiders 17
October 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Like the Texans when they hired their new D-Coordinator went from last to almost first. They didn’t have to preach “patience”.
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It didn’t hurt that they also added maybe the best cover corner (Joseph) and pass-rusher (JJ Watt), along with Brooks Reed.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Sunday Predicition:
Oakland 31 KC 13
October 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
114.KoolKell Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Edward Teach Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Kell,
What concerns you the most about the team right now, and do you think they are on he road to improvement or is it more of the same ?
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Seriously, I don’t know.
Serious question, not yanking your chain here.
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It is confusing for me, too. The thing that is probably the biggest surprise is McFadden’s performance. I have watched several other backs play in the zone scheme (and others) this year, and have seen quite a few that I would consider to be a lot more decisive, and when the situation calls for it, much more elusive as well.
I realize that the line has to block, but I think DMac might be getting a little exposed as more one-dimensional (as a runner) than any of us wants to admit.
Hopefully the line can get it together and give him more opportunities, but he in my opinion could stand to improve as well. I really don’t think the coaching staff saw this coming.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Palmer will throw a pass right to a KC defender, no white jersey in sight. Some fans will blame Knapp. Hilarious.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
How many times have you seen teams implement new schemes, whole new personnel changes and had it vastly improved. Like the Texans when they hired their new D-Coordinator went from last to almost first. They didn’t have to preach “patience”.
Payton Manning in his new scheme with new personnel in his first year under a new offensive coordinator isn’t preaching patience. They’re successfully implementing a plan to their strengths.
Heck, even the crappy Broncos last year were at least creative having the worst QB in history (probably even worse than JaMarcus at throwing the ball) and worked out a way to at least play somewhat to his strengths to keep themselves competitive. Totally unorthodox, but implementing the limited crap that he had.
Look at us – when Hue came here with a new QB, no WRs at all, and one of the worst offenses in the league and turned it around practically overnight.
If it starts looking worse than it was, then you’re doing the wrong thing. If it starts looking better than it was, you’re doing the right thing.
Which way would you say our offense is moving this year?
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Yes and no. In other words, some of what you say is correct, some I disagree with. lst off, the guy that had the team going in the right direction was Cable. Not Jackson. When Cable ended the 2010 season, the team was no doubt headed in the right direction. By the end of 2011, whatever positive momentum Jackson had ended.
The reason guys are hired to run an organization is they have been instrumental in the success of another organization. The new regime came here to implement their systems. Not to tinker what was arguably the worst franchise in the NFL for a decade. And Thank God for that.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Palmer will throw a game losing interception, right to a red jersey, no white jersey in sight. Some fans will say, “that’s what happens when a QB doesn’t believe in the system”. Haha!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Palmer throws a pivotal interception Sunday to blow the game. Mark it.
KC 24
Raiders 17
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maybe you’re right. maybe.
but if loving the Raiders is wrong, I don’t wanna be right!
October 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Not dropping easy passes, fumbling, or tripping over his feet would be a good place to start for Darren.
Seriously, how many dropped screen passes, and tripping over his own feet do we take before we call him on it?
He is up to a few times a game now between the two.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Palmer will throw a pass right to a KC defender, no white jersey in sight. Some fans will blame Knapp. Hilarious.
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And some idiots will steal others identities to post moronic comments. Hilarious.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Not dropping easy passes, fumbling, or tripping over his feet would be a good place to start for Darren.
Seriously, how many dropped screen passes, and tripping over his own feet do we take before we call him on it?
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You’re asking the wrong guy here.
October 26th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
How about a score from the 2010 year, and call it a blast from the past?
Raiders 31
Chefs 10
October 26th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
DMAC runs for 150 against the Queefs!!!
October 26th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
I don’t see a blowout like some of you are hoping for. Even if we do significantly outplay them, look for the refs to even things out. You’ve been briefed.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Oh lord, the cork kiss of death..
October 26th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
DMAC runs for 150 against the Queefs!!!
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I’d be thrilled, but that would mean the o-line blocking better and #20 actually running like he’s supposed to.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
This should be DMac’s last chance to prove he should be on this team. If he sucks against the Chiefs, trade him.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Trade Dmac for draft picks and then trade Kelly for Evan Royster.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/26/brady-quinn-finally-gets-his-chance/
Do not make this guy the second coming of Tony Romo – give em the Gabbert crunch, defense.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
No doubt there is a lot of blame to go around and Greg Knapp is the kicking boy the fanbase all likes to gang up on. But I’m starting to grow a little angry and frustrated with #20 himself. He’s pissing away a lot of opportunities to make plays.
It’s partly true that the scheme he’s in doesn’t allow him to find his ryhtym, but after awhile it’s a copout excuse. He can’t be tripping over his cleats and making uninspired cuts right at the wall of linemen. He doesn’t have that superstar flair that he showed on that long 64 yard TD run a few weeks ago. He kinda looks like he mailed it in. He is a superstar but he is not playing like it or must have forgotten.
I am putting DMC on notice with Mr Knapp. Before, I gave DMC a pass and blamed it all on Knapp.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Brady Quinn is flat out bad. Tarver better have 10 guys up, playing the run and press coverage on the outside. Play them tight and make Quinn make some deeper throws. It ain’t gonna happen.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
This should be DMac’s last chance to prove he should be on this team. If he sucks against the Chiefs, trade him.
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Yes, that is preposterous a statement have I’ve heard all year – again FOR WHO or what pick? Marcus Lattimore? That only compounds the draft need….
i will say only if it gives us two first round picks – and an equal impact back next year in the draft – is it Zac Stacy? Stepfan Taylor of Stanford?
Lets hold off on that.
Did somebody say Evan Royster, when Alfred Morris beat him out for touches?!
October 26th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
I love the Raiders, too. That’s why I want a franchise QB.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
If I hated the Raiders, I’d be wishing that Carson stayed forever.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
17-13 Raiders Book It!
October 26th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
No doubt there is a lot of blame to go around and Greg Knapp is the kicking boy the fanbase all likes to gang up on. But I’m starting to grow a little angry and frustrated with #20 himself. He’s pissing away a lot of opportunities to make plays.
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I gave McFadden a pass in Week One. Obviously we had no WR’s in that game, and Pagano is a very good DC and had his guys key #20 all game. Good for them, we still should have won. The next game, once again, McFadden was doing nothing but it looked like some plays were there for him. They put Goodson in for one play, a simple screen, and Goodson took it to the house. That was it for me.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Two 1sts for McFadden?
LMAO!!!
You realize he is about 5 years into his career, with 1 good year, and 4 crappy and/or injured ones?
We couldn’t get Two 4th’s for him.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
If I hated the Raiders, I’d be wishing that Carson stayed forever.
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Didnt Palmer complete the key pass to DHB which led to the win?
Am i taking crazy pills or is everybody on “the sky is falling” alert!? WTF is going on?
You realize Kyle Boller was the next man up last season, right?! Garrard was hurt –
We probably wouldnt have taken Weeden, or Russell Wilson that high (17th) and RG III and Luck were gone even if we kept the pick.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Two 1sts for McFadden?
LMAO!!!
You realize he is about 5 years into his career, with 1 good year, and 4 crappy and/or injured ones?
We couldn’t get Two 4th’s for him
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uh, it’d be a first for McFadden in addition to the first round pick we already have for 2013
October 26th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
We wouldnt have been picking 17th with boller finishing the season. 4-12..
October 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Dmac isnt worth a 1st to any gm out there.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
uh, it’d be a first for McFadden in addition to the first round pick we already have for 2013
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Ahhhhh……well it didn’t read that way, but my apologies.
I don’t think we could get a first straight up for him either, we would probably have to package a 5th with McFadden to get a late first.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Top ten picks are overrated. I’d be happy with picking in the teens. Usually means you get a guy who is a position of need as well as BPA. Those first picks are high risk and high reward types that flame out half the time or more. The value picks are in the middle first round. Good teams stock up on the gems of the draft that are overlooked in the mid first. And it’s a signal usually that if you draft in the mid first, your team isn’t that far away. The teams that draft at the top suck so bad, it’s pretty much a 2 year rebuild at a minimum. We don’t need to tank and set the franchise even more in the toilet. That’s not good business and it will mean we will have to bid against ourselves to lure in any good free agents.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Sam, Palmer has had some good games, and will have more. But he’s mistake prone. Bad in the clutch. Just doesn’t have that “it” factor. He will never win a Super Bowl. We both know that. At some point we have to address the future of the QB position. Carson isn’t it. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. Carson Palmer does not fit into that goal, except maybe as a backup.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
It’s 4:20
Where’s MIKE at?
October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
All one needs to do is look at DMC’s numbers with Knapp as OC and with Hue as OC/HC.
Pretty self explanatory.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Since we are back to blaming Knapp or at the very least, pondering our run game woes. Let me once again break it down for you guys as simple as possible…
These are the simple facts that are the REAL reasons our run game isnt working, and they are independent of whatever scheme we are running.
1. Wiz 2.0 should be at LG and not C. He is not having a good year by any stretch.
2. Brisel is routinely getting beat physically
3. Meyers is routinely getting beat physically
4. Veldheer is having a off year
5. Coop is a year too long in the tooth
ZBS relies on scheme to beat the D. PBS relies on shear physicality to beat the D. When you look at the tape, we are getting beat physically 9 times out of 10 so it makes no sense to be calling for a run scheme that relies so heavily on us overpowering the defense. I think the problems may just get worse.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
this board is like a vacuum, in space, what happens in here fhas nothing to do with reality outside of this vacuum.
Check out what this writter thinks about palmer
Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland Raiders
Carson Palmer is not the long-term answer for the Oakland Raiders at quarterback. At some point this season the Raiders will have to explore options.
Oakland is struggling to produce consistently on offense and is falling out of the AFC West race. While Palmer may not be the only (or even main) reason for the team’s struggles, someone is always the scapegoat for failure.
The Raiders gave up a lot to get Palmer on the roster and the wins have not followed his arrival. He is going to be moved out of the spotlight by season’s end.
- Nick kastora
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Looks like everybody outside of this board sees what i and a few others see
interesting
October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Yeah, and tell me who on earth would have thought that Jim Plunkett would ever win a Super Bowl, much less two of them? Don’t try to write a history for Carson Palmer as if you have the Sport Almanac of 2025. I have it as a matter of fact and the only thing I will share with you people is that Norv Turner wins NADA in this lifetime. You’ll have to wait and see if Carson wins a SB though (not telling).
October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
guest123 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
It’s 4:20
Where’s MIKE at?
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SMOKIN !!!
toke up my GreenParty brothers !!
October 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Once again, this game is going to boil down to one thing: our pass rush. The Kansas Sh**ty offensive line has played very well. We haven’t. It is doubtful Kelly and Seymour will get much push up front, and our DE’s have been even worse. Lamar Houston has had one good game at end. No one else has. If Andre Carter can’t bring it early in this game then This might be the time to see if So’oto can come in and do something. Anything.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I’m not happy with Knapp, either. But no respectable organization throws out its OC at the behest of a veteran retread QB. Breaks protocol. Bad for morale. Would put the other coaches on edge. New Raiders’ management does not do that.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
All one needs to do is look at DMC’s numbers with Knapp as OC and with Hue as OC/HC.
Pretty self explanatory.
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Oversimplification. DMC mailed it in long ago. Needs to wake the eff up!
October 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
This board knows FAR more about the Raiders than national and even some local sports media.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Carson is on the bubble, not Knapp. If I’m Carson I’m practicing a little harder every day, making sure I never throw that bad pass again.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
this board is like a vacuum, in space…….
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SKIP
October 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
mad stupid is contagious in here…zbs has us running nowhere…but se are getting beat physically? wtf? zbs is scheme…
October 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Here you forgot one thing:
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
this board is like a vacuum, in space, what happens in here fhas nothing to do with reality outside of this vacuum.
Check out what this writter thinks about palmer
Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland Raiders
Carson Palmer is not the long-term answer for the Oakland Raiders at quarterback. At some point this season the Raiders will have to explore options.
Oakland is struggling to produce consistently on offense and is falling out of the AFC West race. While Palmer may not be the only (or even main) reason for the team’s struggles, someone is always the scapegoat for failure.
The Raiders gave up a lot to get Palmer on the roster and the wins have not followed his arrival. He is going to be moved out of the spotlight by season’s end.
- Nick kastora, Denver, Colorado
October 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
155. I have to dissagree with all of that.. last yrs record has little to do with this yrs record.. thats an easy stat to follow..
The top pick in the draft has the first choice. So theres no excuse if you draft a dud. And theres little risk with the new cba.
And most FAs follow the money or coaches they are comfortable with. I dont think was will have trouble atracting fas next yr. Do you?
October 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Raiders 41 – fat red ahole army oozing Bbq sauce 17
This is the week that the Macfad cycles back on. He will look like that horse in the little ceasers commercial.
Brady Quinn may be the first player to come out of the closet but he wont beat the Raiders
October 26th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Wash not was
October 26th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Don’t try to write a history for Carson Palmer as if you have the Sport Almanac of 2025.
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A back to the future reference?
October 26th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
mistic I can’t stand CP , so Cork and a bunch of sheep who said we were gonna have a top 5 D BWAAAAH worst Secondary(before injuries) worst LB core and just avg DL, nobody but Hue was gonna get him off that couch so that tells you what the rest of the GM think of CP.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
guest123,
I remember these same types of conversations 2008 and 2009 about DMC. Then all of a sudden he’s a different player in 2010, 11?
There are several reasons a team struggles to run, most of the blame usually falls on the O Line. But at some point, you have to just realize that we have one of the worst play-callers in the NFL.
There’s nothing wrong with the scheme, it’s the guy teaching it and the square peg we’re trying to fit in a round hole.
DMC isn’t going to just get used to it. I don’t think it will just come around. This trap, stretch BS that Knapp runs doesn’t suit DMAC. He’s been in Knapp’s system for 2.5 years and it always looked bad.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
All one needs to do is look at DMC’s numbers with Knapp as OC and with Hue as OC/HC.
Pretty self explanatory.
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Didn’t McFadden take three quarters of the season off last year?
October 26th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
LA to the Bay,
I agree with what you said there about Knapp, but certainly you have seen DMC trip over his shoelaces and make very poor and impatient reads and cuts this year. I don’t think it’s just the system. He looks completely out of his element. He’s lost his swagger.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
-Nick kastora, Denver, Colorado
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Lol! There is no limit to the depths at which some in here will go to promote their propaganda.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
see ya all Nation bros. Have a good one!
October 26th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
who is the next RGIII? well it isnt geno smith, smith is very athletic but he dioes not have the spped of RGIII. where they compare is deadly accuracy operating form the pistol, and being very smart with the football. Smith has 25 td and zero ints and is completing more than 70% of his passes. he is nimble in the pocket but is more of a jc , rich gannon type that can pick up a 3rd and 7, but he wont bust a 50 yard td.
He is the best qb in his class though by far and I would be happy if we were able to get our hands on him if tp 6 is deemed not to be the answer.
Actually the players that i think are most like rgIII would be senior ej manual, and sophmore (my absolute fav) TEDDY BRIDGEWATER louisville.
This kid reminds me very much of rgIII and had he chosen a big florida school you would already know of him.
Same old story though, how did he end up at loiusville? Well Miami fsu and florida recruited him but would not let him compete at the only position he has ever played….QUARTER BACK.
Thank god for charlie strong and loiusville otherwise we would be robbed of watching one of the best qb prospects in college regardless of graduation class.
Find out about him
October 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
What does any of these excuses have to do with his ability to catch a ball thrown 5 yards in the air?
I swear he has transformed into a RB with below average hands.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Smith has 25 td and zero ints and is completing more than 70% of his passes.
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Umm….I guess you typed this up last weekend?
He threw two picks last week.
October 26th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Sam, Palmer has had some good games, and will have more. But he’s mistake prone. Bad in the clutch. Just doesn’t have that “it” factor. He will never win a Super Bowl. We both know that. At some point we have to address the future of the QB position. Carson isn’t it. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. Carson Palmer does not fit into that goal, except maybe as a backup.
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OK, i get that. So lets say we move on from Palmer. Is the viable replacement even in this draft – Barkley? Geno Smith (who regressed of late, particularly v. K-State).
I think there is a paralysis on developing a QB, do we roll the dice with T-Pryor, and take our losses until the 2014 draft? EJ Manuel? Zac Dysert? (who also has a rather high INT total, but a bunch of yards – he is on track to break Rothelisberger’s school records).
Although we would be changing the direction YET AGAIN – I understand the moment has come that we may have to consider alternatives, since the new GM and coach inherited the QB from the last regime.
I understand all your points and begrudgingly agree, but maybe Palmer turns the corner….it is the age of the QB, and have already missed the next wave (Wilson-Luck-RGIII-Weeden-Ponder)
Sigh. Yet another piece to build, but things look headed in that direction, sadly.
October 26th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I’m not happy with Knapp, either. But no respectable organization throws out its OC at the behest of a veteran retread QB. Breaks protocol. Bad for morale. Would put the other coaches on edge. New Raiders’ management does not do that.
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øk, lets project 6-10 (wins coming v. KC, Cleveland, San Diego and a upset special against somebody, maybe Arizona gives us the 18th pick overall (1st)
that puts us at pick 8, 9 or 10 in this VERY early projection for 2013
lets project us going on defense (David Amerson, CB, N.Carolina St. or pass rusher Jarvis Jones)
we give up the 2nd to Cincinnati for Palmer
we take E.J. Manuel with the 3rd or again with defense (Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St)
or S Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma
we give up a conditional mid round pick in the Curry trade (so that means we either have a fifth or a fourth
we’ll need a tackle as Seymour will move on so thats Anthony Rashad-White of Michigan or Cory Grissom in the fifth
i go as far as Braden Hughes of BYU at OG then another DT Montori Hughes with the later picks.
lets throw out DMC – he’s in a contract year , so some team that is “close” will take a flyer on him for a low first – lets say RB Marcus Lattimore.
Our QB is Terrelle Pryor, we take a backup QB off the heap, possibly Shaun Hill or Tavaris Jackson
so thats
1 Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia or Dee Millner, CB, Alabama
1 Marcus Lattimore, RB, S.Carolina or Demonte Moore Tex A&M
2 to Cincinnati
3 Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St. or Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
4 to Seattle
5 Anthony Rashad-White, DT, Michigan St.
6 Braden Hughes, OG, BYU
7 Melvin White, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette
FA
CB Sam Shields or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
DT Dwan Edwards or Sedrick Ellis
OT Ryan Clady
QB Shaun Hill
October 26th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Geno Smith=Jamarcus 2.0
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