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Final: Raiders 26, Chiefs 16

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 28th, 2012 at 4:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders inserted themselves into the AFC West picture with the help of four Sebastian Janikowski field goals and two touchdown passes from Carson Palmer in a 26-16 win Sunday over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.

Oakland’s second straight win and sixth in a row in Kansas City improved its record to 3-4, the same as the San Diego Chargers, with Denver, 3-3, playing New Orleans Sunday night.

Kansas City, 1-6, came into the game with a league-worst minus-15 turnover differential, and true to form, coughed the ball up four times to once for Oakland.

Two of the Chiefs miscues were unforced, with Javier Arenas muffing a punt that led to a 9-yard Palmer-to-Denarius Moore touchdown and a fumbled snap by Matt Cassel leading to Janikowski’s 29-yard field goal.

A third turnover, an interception by Matt Giordano against starter Brady Quinn, also led to a Janikowski field goal. An interception by Pat Lee near the Raiders goal line with 4:58 to play sent what was left of the 74,730 in attendance streaming for the exits.

The Raiders had just one turnover on the game’s first play _ a deep throw intended for Darrius Heyward-Bey that was intercepted by former Oakland cornerback Stanford Routt.

Routt struggled the rest of the day, and missed a one-on-one tackle on Heyward-Bey’s 32-yard touchdown pass from Palmer to cap an 80-yard drive and give Oakland a 23-9 lead with 5:40 left in the third quarter.

Janikowski, now 32-for-36 on field goal attempts at Arrowhead, connected from 36, 35, 29 and 32 yards _ the final conversion coming after he missed at 37 with the Chiefs jumping offsides.

The Chiefs had field goals from Ryan Succup of 32, 52 and 52 yards, and finally broke through for a touchdown pass from Cassel to Dexter McCluster from 10 yards out with 2:27 remaining.

Quinn was forced to leave the game in the first half with a head injury after throwing just four passes.

As evidenced by the four field goals, the Raiders execution deep in Kansas City territory left something to be desired, but the Raiders defense allowed only three field goals by Ryan Succup from distances of 30, 42 and 52 yards.

Running back Darren McFadden, bottled up for much of the day, got enough yards late with the Raiders protecting a lead to finish with 112 yards on 28 carries, his second 100-yard game of the season.

Defensively, the Raiders pressured Quinn and Cassel throughout, with Rolando McClain, Philip Wheeler and Richard Seymour recording sacks.

The Raiders, who struggled protecting the passer in last week’s 26-23 overtime win over Jacksonville, did well in that area against the Chiefs. Palmer was not sacked and had plenty of time to throw throughout.

Oakland, which had 21 penalties in the last two games, had just two for 25 yards against the Chiefs.

The Raiders return home next week against Tampa Bay with a chance to get to .500.

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189 Responses to “Final: Raiders 26, Chiefs 16”

  1. RaiderDuck Says:

    And to all the Hue lovers: Please direct me to any win Hue had as HC that was by more points than today’s win. Thank you.

  2. RaidingTexas Says:

    Hope this shuts up the DA and Reggie haters. This defense is getting better by the minute.

    The Raiders will win the AFC West this season. Mark me down for that one.

  3. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    JUST WIN BABY.

    Did u see REGGIE’s GUYS? making plays? Pat LEE.. WHEELER? BURRIS???

  4. RaidingTexas Says:

    And I love the GEICO play of the day – Nnamdi getting burned for a long TD.

    Still want him and his monstrous salary demands?

  5. RaiderDuck Says:

    Also: I’m taking bets on when those worthless trolls Al_is_theraiders, AmysInCharge and Oakfoshow will appear. I’m betting on “never.” They’re no doubt crying in their root beers that we won.

  6. J Hill Says:

    Coming together really nicely.

  7. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Two leading tackles are Wheeler and Burris.

    The Reggie is beyond awesome

  8. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    JUST WIN BABY.

    Did u see REGGIE’s GUYS? making plays? Pat LEE.. WHEELER? BURRIS???

    ================================================

    You know it. Reggie will bring us MULTIPLE Lombardis…

  9. mcfadden20. Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    The roaches only come out when the lights are off…lights off mean Raiders lose.

    —-
    Yeah true that, I request everyone to ignore silly and others now , don’t let them tell us we beat up on a weak team

  10. J Hill Says:

    MY boy Stevie Brown still around the ball ALL the time in NY I see.

    Epic miss by GM JFB, lol

  11. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    raiderkoolaid Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    McFadden was horrible. Only 114 yards rushing.
    ——–
    He still had less than 4 yards a carry.

  12. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Back to Back WINS!
    Any time we beat KC is a damn good week.
    Gotta get it right for next week, TB is going to be ready.

  13. edward teach Says:

    Don’t know the penalty stats, but it seemed as if DA got that back under control today as well.

    KC sucks on offense no doubt, but our guys were flying around on D. Great effort today.

  14. supapimp Says:

    Where are the CP3 haters now? Drink up. Enjoy the win.

  15. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gio finds his way around the ball as well, but yeah Stevie can play.

  16. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Next week is going to be a tough one. But I have a feeling it is going to be Dmac’s break out game, even though Bucs have a tough run defense.

  17. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Impressive that Raiders beat 2 teams coming off a bye.

  18. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THE RAIDERS DID BEAT UP ON A WEAK TEAM.2 IN A ROW IS NICE THOUGH.MAKE IT 3 AND A .500 RECORD AFTER NEXT WEEK..

  19. BabySlash Says:

    Good to get a win on the road. Kind of a deceptive win based on KC failures but we got the job done even though we failed in the red zone and dropped a lot of balls. We can contend if we continue to improve. KC has no QB but we stopped the run. Good game plan on D ! Nice actually have a game plan on D

  20. neilb Says:

    SAINTS!!!

  21. raidertalk Says:

    2 in a Row baby! With tampon bay at home next week! Let’s get to 500 and build some momentum!

  22. Daviseraalumni Says:

    Great win today for the silver and black. Against a divisional opponent nonetheless. Have some tough games coming up though. The Browns beating the Chargers was awesome. Just an overall great day in football. Ill be rooting for the Saints tonight but Knapp still isn’t out of my dog-house just yet.

  23. EMRaiders Says:

    Great win today. Not the prettiest, but against KC, a division rival and desperate team off a bye, we did pretty well. Our D bailed us out today. But that is a good thing. Because we are now seeing the changes and adjustments made after the bye have worked. It’s progress, and even though KC is not all that threatening offensively, we did managed to stop their running, and made both their QBs look very uncomfortable.

    Plus we are tied for first now! :)

    Next week will be a good measure stick for us.

  24. jackasspuria Says:

    So, Profootballtalk.com writer Darin Grantt has a synopsis of the game.

    In it, he states: “And good teams aren’t 3-4 this time of year.”

    Does that mean the Chargers and Raiders are on equal footing, meaning, they’re both “bad teams”.

    And say the Broncos lose later tonight and they are 3-4.

    Does that make Denver, Oakland and San Diego all “bad teams”?

  25. Try Some Reality Says:

    Supapimp Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Where are the CP3 haters now? Drink up. Enjoy the win.

    ==========================================

    They crawled back under their rock. They will be in mourning this week. No excitement this week hating on Palmer. Too bad for them.

  26. boss01 Says:

    That was the worst 100 yd effort by Mcfadden but once again this Defense has surprise the heck out of me..completely shutting down Jamaal Charles…Wheeler and Burris are straight BALLERS

  27. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Mush, you are beyond retarded.

    The Raiders didn’t win, the Chiefs LOST.

    Get the Kool aid out of your eyes.

  28. Kirk Says:

    Without Greg Knapp we are 6-2.

  29. Thec Says:

    Good Job RAIDERS…Victory coupled with a disc loss…

    GREAT weekend.

  30. fingers Says:

    One at a time…. Beat the ” Buck An Ears”…. Expensive corn ….

  31. realtruraider Says:

    Palmer played another good game, if it wasn’t for all the drops that were perfect throws he would of had great stats for this game. And a shoutout to the Oline, they played better today

  32. RaidingTexas Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    He still had less than 4 yards a carry.

    ————————–

    The glass is half full, man. I promise. They won. That’s all that matters. All around good effort. Not perfect, but they beat a team they should have beat. And with some luck they may be still be in first place after tonight’s game.

  33. fingers Says:

    31… True…. Could have easily had another 10 , 14 points…

  34. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    9 takeaways last 3 games. Love the way this D is playing and finally 2 real linebackers.

  35. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raiders should move up to #25 in the power poll.

  36. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Stevie Brown makes plays.

  37. 505raiders Says:

    back to back wins against really bad teams is an improvement whos next

  38. Thec Says:

    LB’s looked really good, including McClain.

  39. fingers Says:

    Their were a few drops … Palmer played a very good game

  40. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Good win RAIDERS. ONE NATION

    RACK ‘EM

  41. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Mush, you are beyond retarded.

    The Raiders didn’t win, the Chiefs LOST.

    Get the Kool aid out of your eyes.
    ——–
    First post game troll sighting.

  42. raidertalk Says:

    Just some Observations:
    1)Dmac and Goodson–did a hell of alot better with a fullback in the backfield. Especially when we needed to run clock while ahead.
    I do not know why the coaches stopped using FBs, in the Fourth, and then boom DMAC hit in the backfield
    Here’s a hint–On obvious running downs use a FB to help wear down the opposing Defense

    2) These WRs are taking points off the board. We need a possession big-sized WR for 3downs and Redzone.

    3) The Defense looks much improved, Burris and especially Wheeler looked like he was everywhere today. And the Catch of the GAME Lee INT!

  43. Raider Riff Says:

    My evaluation…

    Biggest Problems on this Team thus far:

    1. O Line / Blocking (this includes Meyers horrible blocking)

    Marginally better. Still a lot of work to do.

    
2. DE’s (missing in action most the year)


    Marginally better. Still a lot of work to do.

    3. Dropped Passes (TEs, RB, WRs, in the Red Zone in particular)

    A major issue at the moment. Might climb their way to the top of the list after another performance like this game. The dropped passes have been a BIG ISSUE that has affected the scoreboard since the preseason. THIS MUST BE FIXED ASAP.

    4. The Refs – If you cant see how much worse weve been treated since they came back, youre blind. It’s been really really bad and has cost us at least one game so far.


    These bastards are quickly moving up the list. They just cant help but miss the holds and call us for anything they can.

    5. DMC’s field vision – One could make the argument that this is the second biggest issue at the moment. The semi’s are starting to see the Oline play a little better and DMC is still missing holes. Im not hating, just putting our boy on notice. Thats all.

    6. Special Teams (has steadily improved throughout the year)

    Off the hot seat?

    
7. Secondary (Was our biggest problem early on, has improved drastically. Huff is partially to credit, improved LB and DE play is partially to credit. Regardless, its no longer the BIG problem it once was. After week 2, you could say the secondary was problem #1, now, its about to fall off this list)

    Off the hot seat?

  44. boss01 Says:

    This was a beautiful day of Football baby….the dolts imploding, us dominating..sort of…now only thing that can top it off is the Saints beating down the donks and lowering the boom on Manning

  45. J Hill Says:

    So what do we do with Huff when Bartell and Spencer get healthy?

  46. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    LOT OF DROPP’D BALLS 2DAY BY RECIEVERS.PALMER HAD A GOOD GAME ..

  47. eastoaklandraider Says:

    After listening to the game via online radio I must say that was are best game to date under DA. Chiefs gave a couple gifts but we were able to take advantage which is what the good teams do. I have ripped Knapp a new one so I have to give him credit for a solid gameplan and it would’ve been even better if not for a few key drops. McFadden finally started to look like McFadden and the Oline looked much improved over last week, even willie smith seemed to play better. Now we take on TB which will be a much stiffer test and we will really get to see what are boys are made of, byt for now enjoy a comfortable victory Nation we havent had many like this I almost didnt know how to feel. GO SAINTS!!!

  48. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Have Huff opposite of Bartell?

  49. Raider2DaHeart Says:

    Has Allen got his first head coach gatearade bath??

  50. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    MUFFED

  51. Raider Riff Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    9 takeaways last 3 games. Love the way this D is playing and finally 2 real linebackers.

    ———–

    Nice call on the Howie Long jersey. We’re undefeated when I wear it.

    Howie Long + Girlfriend banned from the living room = Win

    Every. Time.

  52. Just Win Baby Says:

    I love the wins, I love the momentum, but we beat the 2 worst teams in the NFL. It’s a start, but we need to play tough against Denver and San Diego next time and win the div.

  53. neilb Says:

    45.J Hill Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    So what do we do with Huff when Bartell and Spencer get healthy?

    ======================================================

    If it ain’t broken….

  54. fingers Says:

    That was a good Chefs D…. Their offense sucks… But that D is credible ..

  55. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Palmer wasn’t sacked today, was he? The O-line did a much better job protecting him.

  56. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I wore DMAC’s jersey backwards. LOL Way to go Raider Riff! haha

  57. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    So what do we do with Huff when Bartell and Spencer get healthy?
    —————

    Huff and Bartell should be the starters for the rest of the season imo. 2 big dbs gotta love that.

  58. lefty12 Says:

    J-why move him.He has earned the spot and the D is playing pretty damn good as is.

  59. neilb Says:

    Miami…..

    It has to stay like that for the rest of the season now.

  60. Thec Says:

    All wins are Great no mater the final score.
    This team may not have all the talent we need however, they do have some fight and heart.

    You guys enjoy the VICTORY…

    1 NATION

  61. 505raiders Says:

    bucs will give us a fight cant wait to see where we stack up against decent competetion coming off 2 wins in row

    offense is still struggling though d looked good and played as a team but against a team that hasnt scored a td since week4 and we let them have a td

  62. J Hill Says:

    Bartell and Spencer will have a hard time getting back on the field the way the CB group is playing.

  63. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mob Refs? Raiders had 2 penalties for 20 yards.

  64. boss01 Says:

    Its amazing what a difference real NFL linebackers can make…Wheeler is a Baller, Burris is coming along…it seems they were all over the field on every play today…give Reggie credit for at least giving us real NFL linebacker play this year…I have been missing that kind of tenacity since Romo was here

  65. r8eray Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    9 takeaways last 3 games. Love the way this D is playing and finally 2 real linebackers.

    ———–

    Nice call on the Howie Long jersey. We’re undefeated when I wear it.

    Howie Long + Girlfriend banned from the living room = Win

    Every. Time.

    =======

    Tell her to wear it next week too!!!!!

    ;)

  66. lefty12 Says:

    To people complaining about McFadden-he did today just what the coaching staff has said would happen.He had 95 yards in the 2nd half because we kept pounding him.

  67. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Mush is right. Wait a minute. That can’t be right.

    Just win Baby.

  68. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    neilb Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    Miami…..

    It has to stay like that for the rest of the season now.
    ——

    You know it! haha. Its possible that I was the only Raider fan in America that wore DMAC’s jersey backwards. lol It worked, he got his 100.

  69. eastoaklandraider Says:

    505raiders Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    bucs will give us a fight cant wait to see where we stack up against decent competetion coming off 2 wins in row

    offense is still struggling though d looked good and played as a team but against a team that hasnt scored a td since week4 and we let them have a td
    ——————

    that was a garbage time td doesnt mean much.

  70. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The biggest issue for our team right now is not having an NFL level punter

  71. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Going in, KC was the 3rd offensive run team.
    The defence had a good day against KC.

    Palmer is being really patient with the receivers but for fuk’s sake, if it hits you in the hands you’re supposed to catch it.

  72. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    I think DA should demand an extension.

    We beat the Jags and Queefs.

  73. J Hill Says:

    Yeah, I really like Huff at corner, Lefty.

    I am intrigued to see Bartell and Ross though.

    You know I like Lee though.

  74. Raider Riff Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    J-why move him.He has earned the spot and the D is playing pretty damn good as is.

    ——–

    All the intelligent semi’s agree…. Huff stays at CB. This year and come next year, move him to #2 and bring in a possible #1 if available in free agency. If not available, run the same crew next year. Our draft needs to go towards O and D line help.

  75. morilla Says:

    Good win gents, it’s been a pleasure hanging with you guys.

  76. DJ Johnny Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    raiderkoolaid Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    McFadden was horrible. Only 114 yards rushing.
    ——–
    He still had less than 4 yards a carry.

    If he had 28 for 112 that is EXACTLY 4 yards a carry.

    I thought the stat line said 114 yds. which would make it 4.2 yds. a carry.

  77. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Burris and Wheeler are the wave of our future, Mcclain seemed to play well also. However I think we will be in the mix for a new MLB this offseason, we cant pay 55 that type of money for so few plays a game.

  78. VanHeathen30 Says:

    WR’s have got to step their game up next week…
    For now, GO SAINTS!

  79. lefty12 Says:

    J Hill,a nice problem to have for a change.Too many good players for to few positions.

  80. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Stevie Brown with another INT

  81. 505raiders Says:

    it kind of does it shows seymore will still get sloppy towards the end of the game even though in my eyes it was a weak call

  82. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Stevie!

  83. realtruraider Says:

    Stevie Brown is just a fkin playmaker

  84. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Stevie Brown has 3 takeaways today?
    Old regime whiffed on that one.

  85. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Reggie would have kept Stevie Brown. It’s nice having a real GM now.

  86. J Hill Says:

    Stevie Brown … GAWD DAMMIT MAYNE!!!

    Should be OUR starting FS.

  87. Just Fire Baby Says:

    By my count we will be 22nd in scoring after today, and averaging 2.2 points less per game than last year.

  88. jackasspuria Says:

    Agreed gents. Stevie Brown is on fire for the G-Men!

  89. Raider Riff Says:

    We need the Saints to show up now.

    But considering that stupid soda commercial Drew Brees has done with that queer band One Direction, he’s due to get some really bad luck. Man card… revoked.

  90. valleyflyin Says:

    I am so glad we got rid of Stevie brown

  91. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Palmer is going to the Probowl folks.

  92. Tricky70390 Says:

    Stevie Brown and Sterling Moore should still be Raiders.

  93. neilb Says:

    SAINTS!!!

    Enjoy the victory and the rest of the evening.

    Later Raiders.

  94. Raider Riff Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    By my count we will be 22nd in scoring after today, and averaging 2.2 points less per game than last year.

    ——-

    Without all the dropped passes, we are scoring at least 5-10 more points per game and probably have a winning record.

  95. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Al got rid of Stevie Brown , to sign Brandon Merriweather, who neither signed with the Raiders, or has played a game this year.

    Great job previous regime.

    Long live The Reggie

  96. Raidervill Says:

    O-line stepped up on the road and kept CP clean with no pre-snap penalties. Kudos to them. The run blocking was still pretty sorry, but they did open some creases in the 2nd half.

    I am impressed how DA and Tarver have amped up the D since the bye. With no top end pass rusher or CB’s they are handling their business and causing TO’s. That is what makes the offenses regression so frustrating.

    The O-line has to build on this performance and DMac needs to keep working. WRs have to catch the freaking ball. And Knapp has to be more creative sometimes. Tampa will be a challenge because they come in smoking on O. Keep this team improving DA.

    One Nation Baby…

  97. Raider Riff Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    Palmer is going to the Probowl folks.

    —————

    With the way Huff is playing at CB, Huffy might be there with him.

    Along with Seymore, Jano, Wheeler, and maybe Burris.

    If Branch builds on this game, he’ll be in Hawaii also.

  98. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Now a nice cherry on top will be a World Series sweep and perhaps the greatest baseball team man ever created

  99. raidertalk Says:

    I don’t know if all those hits that Lechler took early–on are starting to effect him…

  100. boss01 Says:

    Tricky70390 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Stevie Brown and Sterling Moore should still be Raiders.

    ———

    We got Huff and Pat Lee with Spencer and Bartell coming back….we dont need Stevie and Sterling, Huff is our new shut down corner

  101. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Slow down Riff, Burris is not going to the Pro Bowl.

    Remember, it is a fan and player vote. Fans vote for names, players vote for their buddies.

  102. J Hill Says:

    What is a #1 CB besides a guy who is going to cost a lot of $.

    Huff is our high priced corner. I think we find a starter opposite him outta Lee, Ross, or Bartell.

  103. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Just saw on Facebook:

    Everytime I set my DVR to record The Biggest Loser, it records Kansas City Chiefs games.

    lmao

  104. Raider Riff Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    Burris and Wheeler are the wave of our future, Mcclain seemed to play well also. However I think we will be in the mix for a new MLB this offseason, we cant pay 55 that type of money for so few plays a game.

    ———

    McClain has responded as good as possible to the demotion.

    That is better than what we’d expected him to do, which was go into the tank.

    When we are healthy/deep enough to run a 3-4, he will be the “other” ILB and play much better.

    I dont think this is RoMac’s last year with the team. The coaches wanted to see a response, and he’s responded. That goes a long way with coaches and Reggie.

  105. VaRaiderNation Says:

    Good win today Nation! We are still very much in the hunt. What I liked best about this victory? Even though we were a bit flat in the first half, it was a convincing win. We were the better team and came out and showed why. Hoping this sets the tone for the rest of the season.

  106. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    Now a nice cherry on top will be a World Series sweep and perhaps the greatest baseball team man ever created
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s right Vegas! Go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  107. Raider Riff Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Slow down Riff, Burris is not going to the Pro Bowl.

    Remember, it is a fan and player vote. Fans vote for names, players vote for their buddies.

    ——-

    Youre probably right. It doesnt mean he isnt playing at a PB level tho.

    He is a frontrunner for defensive AFC rookie of the year.

  108. J Hill Says:

    Sterling Moore gets beat A LOT, lol.

    His best plays are knocking the ball out from behind.

    I’m cool on him.

  109. Raider Riff Says:

    J Hill Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    What is a #1 CB besides a guy who is going to cost a lot of $.

    Huff is our high priced corner. I think we find a starter opposite him outta Lee, Ross, or Bartell.

    ———–

    Huff is what? 6 million a year? That is what you pay for a top #2 corner. Of which he is playing like.

    He also passes for a cheap #1 CB if he continues to play like he has. So in that scenario, I can live with what you are proposing.

  110. lefty12 Says:

    The play that stood out today was the DHB TD play.That is how he should be used.Get him the ball on short passes and let him use his strength and speed.No more of those fly patterns.

  111. J Hill Says:

    OOB Bryant.

    Bad luck

  112. boss01 Says:

    Stevie Brown getting toasted…no thanks

  113. chuck Says:

    Hopefully we can turn this thing around,we look a lot better today but we got a long way to go.I still don’t understand everyone putting down al Davis every chance they get if it wasn’t for him we would not be on this blog, let the man rest in peace.As for Reggie we are still 3-4 funny how losing is ok now.

  114. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Boss01 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    Tricky70390 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Stevie Brown and Sterling Moore should still be Raiders.

    ———

    We got Huff and Pat Lee with Spencer and Bartell coming back….we dont need Stevie and Sterling, Huff is our new shut down corner
    ———————
    WHOA Bossman ease up on the “SHUTDOWN CORNER” if he shuts down the Williams kid next week then we may have something. Bowe was pretty quiet though was Huff on him most of the game?

  115. realtruraider Says:

    We aren’t the only team that let Stevie Brown go that could use him right now. It was a nice fine by the old regime, but to bad they didn’t let him develope a little, he looked good his first year here, but he fell way off his 2nd year, I remember the reports from training camp how he was always out of place and it carried over to the preseason. Every regime has players that they wish they would of givin more of a chance once they see them play good for someone else. It happends, no need to dwell over it

  116. lefty12 Says:

    The only way McClain comes back is if he re-works his contract.They won’t pay him what he is due.

  117. raidertalk Says:

    Were are about one possession WR from a playoff team

  118. J Hill Says:

    Stevie is 27, not 37.

  119. MistaBrown Says:

    SeaPerch is Greg Knapps biggest fan.

  120. realtruraider Says:

    OK, maybe he did play decent in preseason games that year, but I do remember reports from camp sayin he struggled, Beat writers were surprised he looked so bad after havin a good 1st year

  121. raidertalk Says:

    I think we’ll need more corners when we play against teams that have actually scored touchedowns

  122. BabySlash Says:

    The semis alm wanted Stevie. Funny how you all saw it but not Al

  123. Raider Riff Says:

    Two weeks in a row, two QBs taken out.

    I say we start a paypal fund for our defense. A fan run bounty system. Roger Goodell has no jurisdiction over us.

    Who’s with me?

  124. J Hill Says:

    Streater or Criner will be that “possession” WR we need.

  125. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    Burris and Wheeler are the wave of our future, Mcclain seemed to play well also. However I think we will be in the mix for a new MLB this offseason, we cant pay 55 that type of money for so few plays a game.

    ———

    McClain has responded as good as possible to the demotion.

    That is better than what we’d expected him to do, which was go into the tank.

    When we are healthy/deep enough to run a 3-4, he will be the “other” ILB and play much better.

    I dont think this is RoMac’s last year with the team. The coaches wanted to see a response, and he’s responded. That goes a long way with coaches and Reggie.
    —————-

    This is true but have you seen his cap hit for next year? He will be getting paid like a PB type player.

  126. lefty12 Says:

    Loved the way Palmer took Streater aside and talked to him when Streater didn’t get that route right near the goal.That is what leaders do.

  127. VaRaiderNation Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    Two weeks in a row, two QBs taken out.

    I say we start a paypal fund for our defense. A fan run bounty system. Roger Goodell has no jurisdiction over us.

    Who’s with me?
    __________

    Awesome idea

  128. Raidervill Says:

    People are complaining about losing Steve Brown? Maybe, but him and Gio are about the same I’d say. The guy Al never should have let go was Chris Clemons. He is the 3rd down speed rusher the Raiders need right now.

  129. Raider Riff Says:

    VaRaiderNation Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    Two weeks in a row, two QBs taken out.

    I say we start a paypal fund for our defense. A fan run bounty system. Roger Goodell has no jurisdiction over us.

    Who’s with me?
    __________

    Awesome idea

    ———

    I’ll get it done this week.

    I bet we get it over $5k for a Manning “cart off”

  130. boss01 Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    Boss01 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    Tricky70390 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Stevie Brown and Sterling Moore should still be Raiders.

    ———

    We got Huff and Pat Lee with Spencer and Bartell coming back….we dont need Stevie and Sterling, Huff is our new shut down corner
    ———————
    WHOA Bossman ease up on the “SHUTDOWN CORNER” if he shuts down the Williams kid next week then we may have something. Bowe was pretty quiet though was Huff on him most of the game?

    ==============

    Maybe its a reach, but I like what im seeing so far, that move is the prime reason the defense has turned it around…I would keep him at corner for the year

  131. boss01 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Loved the way Palmer took Streater aside and talked to him when Streater didn’t get that route right near the goal.That is what leaders do.

    ———–

    He was asking him how does it feel to have a set of Alligator arms

  132. VaRaiderNation Says:

    Sounds good to me 129, our D owes Manning and the Donks bigtime. They’ll be seeing a different Raider team than the one they blew out at home.

  133. lefty12 Says:

    Screw the ’shut-down’ corner talk.We are starting to see a ‘Shut-down’ DEFENSE.That is what we want.

  134. eastoaklandraider Says:

    LOL, much friendlier environment in here Today.

  135. raidertalk Says:

    J Hill Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    Streater or Criner will be that “possession” WR we need.
    ——————————————————
    Maybe in their next reincarnation.
    Criner has a Jamarcus type work ethic (still has not learned the playbook; tried to hold-out as a low round draft pick; and often injured)

    Streater has potential, but how many true NFL level possession WRs fumbled and dropped so many passes their first year?

  136. fingers Says:

    Anyday I can put a W on the schedule I keep on my Fridge is a good Raider day…..
    One at a time…. Beat the Buck An Ears…….

  137. chuck Says:

    We beat the 2 worst teams in the nfl we were suppose to win those games,we have to keep improving.

  138. lefty12 Says:

    No alligator arms.He didn’t make the proper read and realize it was a back shoulder throw,not a go.

  139. eastoaklandraider Says:

    That D is starting to play the “RAIDER WAY”.

  140. VaRaiderNation Says:

    I notice the Palmer haters are missing…nice.

  141. VanHeathen30 Says:

    A win is a win is a win!
    No freebies in the NFL.

  142. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He is a frontrunner for defensive AFC rookie of the year.

    ***************************

    In the mix for sure.

    That Kuechly LB for Carolina is the hands down winner in the NFC.

  143. boss01 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    No alligator arms.He didn’t make the proper read and realize it was a back shoulder throw,not a go.

    ===========
    Im talking about the drop he had across the middle with a defender zeroing in on him…DA was in his face after that play

  144. VaRaiderNation Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    That D is starting to play the “RAIDER WAY”.
    ____________

    Damn right they are. Burris and Wheeler are nasty. We’ve been missing that mentality on our D forever. Really nice to see. If we can keep improving in all aspects, and especially get the offense rolling, we’ll be dangerous.

  145. lefty12 Says:

    Hey,Chuck,did you see the Jack/GB game today?It was a close game and Jack gave them all they could handle.Are GB fans complaining because it was the terrible Jags?I doubt it.But if you dislike a team,I guess you try and find any negatives with anything positive that that team does.

  146. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A good defensive coach like Allen has players playing defined roles.

    Rolando is used in area’s to succeed, and he is sacking QB’s, stuffing runs and knocking out QB’s.

    When he would get burnt, he isn’t in those spots anymore.

    Love the new staff and regime. Feels like something we can actually build on, as opposed to knowing the tent was going to fold eventually.

  147. raidertalk Says:

    Laters fellow Nationers. This is gonna be a good week, enjoy the win streak!

  148. fingers Says:

    It’s hard even reading the post on Corks game chats with all the whining and jumping on and off the bandwagon….

  149. raidertalk Says:

    Beat Tampon Bay! I’m out.

  150. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Wheeler and Burris are FLYING to he ball on every play.
    Been a while since we had that going on…
    DA is winning me over.
    Just WIN Baby!

  151. DJ Johnny Says:

    Since we have a poster who always trashes Palmer for WINS and how they are the true measure of a QB, I guess Luck is “light years” ahead of RG 3 right now.

    Hey. No excuses. Gotta win the game. Lol.

  152. fingers Says:

    Watched the end of that Giants / Cowboys…. Pretty good game

  153. DJ Johnny Says:

    …and since Palmer has more TD’s than int’s some have to pull “total turnovers” out of their arse.

    Can we then fairly ADD dropped passes to the QB’s stat line?

  154. jackasspuria Says:

    Raidertalk

    Jerry Rice couldn’t catch a cold at times his rookie year. Not saying Streater will ever approach Rice status, however, if the GOAT had a case of dropsies his rookie year, any WR can.

  155. Dakota Says:

    Much more impressive win than last week. Two crap teams, but at least this week we looked like an NFL team.

    A little progress.

  156. VaRaiderNation Says:

    Noticed something else about our D, most of our defenders joined the big hit club for today’s game. Branch, Burris, Wheeler, McClain, Kelly, Gio, and I’m probably forgetting one or two. All of those guys had one or more solid, bone-crunching hits…much better than the old whiff and extra yardage we were so used to seeing through the years.

  157. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Hopefully we don’t have to read anymore, if Hue, when Hue was here, Cable this…Also, great for Stevie Brown but he’s not a Raider anymore.

  158. lefty12 Says:

    DJ,this isn’t the time.This is a time to enjoy a win.Everyone knows the person you are talking about has an agenda and doesn’t really support the TEAM.Why bring him up now?He’ll be here next week and you’ll have plenty of time to correct him.

  159. chuck Says:

    No one is complaint about winning if you are paying attention,what I said was we should win those games like green bay won today but we need to get better and lefty I bet if you ask any green bay fan or player they will tell you they have to play better.

  160. lefty12 Says:

    Chuck,ever game players and coaches will say they need to improve and play better,that isn’t the issue.Too many come here after any win and make statements that we played a lousy team,we were lucky,the officials gave us the game,etc.When we win,we should be happy with the win-no matter who it was against.Don’t downplay it.In the NFL,a win is a win

  161. DJ Johnny Says:

    If every team beat who they are supposed to beat then New England and GB would be undefeated every year.

  162. DJ Johnny Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    DJ,this isn’t the time.This is a time to enjoy a win.Everyone knows the person you are talking about has an agenda and doesn’t really support the TEAM.Why bring him up now?He’ll be here next week and you’ll have plenty of time to correct him.

    You’re right. I couldn’t help myself.

  163. lefty12 Says:

    I’m also getting tired of hearing every time we win that we played the worst team in the league,we should have won.People were b!otching after the Miami game that we lost to the worst team in the league.They don’t look nearly like the worst team now.

  164. fingers Says:

    Fk the Buck An Ears …..

  165. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Huff a much better cornerback than a free safety.

    At cb he’s earning his contract, the dollars make much more sense now.

    Lee & Hanson have vastly improved; ball hawks.

    When Spencer and Bartell return, they will have to earn their first team positions.

    Raiders will be deep at cb.

  166. RaiderReggie Says:

    How bout them Raiders! Reggie McKenzie will have the Raiders in the Super Bowl in two years.

  167. fingers Says:

    Love to see the Saints beat Bobblehead …

  168. mcfadden20. Says:

    Pat Lee int was a nice sight… We didn’t just knock 1 qb out , we knocked 2 qb’s out.. Cassel stayed there because they had no one to defend that ish…

  169. mcfadden20. Says:

    What we really need to get better at are those WR bubble screens or whatever u want to call them… Denver killed us with those and KC had success when they did that

  170. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Wouldn’t mind seeing NO send the bobble head into retirement…
    Should be a good game.

  171. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Moore, Streater, and McFadden had drop passes, that cost at least one TD and one first down.

    Raiders still one by double digits; that should tell us something.

  172. fingers Says:

    Gawd I hate the Donks….

  173. Raider Riff Says:

    Raidertalk Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
    J Hill Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    Streater or Criner will be that “possession” WR we need.
    ——————————————————
    Maybe in their next reincarnation.
    Criner has a Jamarcus type work ethic (still has not learned the playbook; tried to hold-out as a low round draft pick; and often injured)

    Streater has potential, but how many true NFL level possession WRs fumbled and dropped so many passes their first year?

    ———

    Does the name Jerry Rice ring a bell?

  174. DJ Johnny Says:

    1-4 has always been a dagger for a team w/ any aspirations…but here we are…if Brees and the Saints can come thru we are tied for 1st.

  175. morilla Says:

    I rarely say this, but Kelly and Seymour were whipping the sh:t out of their guys all game long. Someone might have slipped them some trucker speed.

  176. mcfadden20. Says:

    See when we win the trolls aren’t here, there is hardly any post for awhile but when we lose this sh1t is off the hook. SUlly and Company takes this blog to another level with all the bs thats on their mind

  177. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderReggie Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    How bout them Raiders! Reggie McKenzie will have the Raiders in the Super Bowl in two years.

    ==========================================

    I’d give it more like four years. However, your main point is correct. ALL HAIL REGGIE AND DENNIS!

  178. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Wonder if Beechum has ever cut a “duet” with Faith Hill?
    C’mon Beech, I know you got it in you…

  179. Silverandblack666 Says:

    That’s 3QB KNOCK OUT’S! in 2 weeks!

    Like Al used to say the QB has to go down hard…

  180. mcfadden20. Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    1-4 has always been a dagger for a team w/ any aspirations…but here we are…if Brees and the Saints can come thru we are tied for 1st.

    I told guys in here , we will be in this sh1t pretty soon and but guys like MARK and others were like O we got no chance start fighting for # 1 pick … WHere are those losers at now?

  181. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Moore three consecutive games with a TD reception.

    Raiders’ go-to WR.

  182. DJ Johnny Says:

    This is total b.s.

    They had Raiders scheduled (highlights) after the break and they just skipped it entirely w/ no explanation.

    WTH?

  183. VanHeathen30 Says:

    DA is surely finding his way as an HC.
    Reggie has got us some talent, but ran some off too.
    Time will tell, but Wheeler, Burris, Streeter all look like staples for this team.

  184. mcfadden20. Says:

    New Post

  185. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Better strap in on next wek boys T.B. had a back with about 180+ total yards today. Great win Today though!!!!

  186. DJ Johnny Says:

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    October 28th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    Wonder if Beechum has ever cut a “duet” with Faith Hill?
    C’mon Beech, I know you got it in you…

    I think she sang backup on his 2 kewl for skewl band’s song “Summer Bummer”.

    Not for sure though. It was either her or Miley Cyrus.

  187. chuck Says:

    Maybe we can all agree on one,Go Saints

  188. Plunketthead Says:

    Fielder is stealing money

  189. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Heyward-Bey becoming a consistent WR.

    Streater still growing, tough catch, good to see Palmer instructing him on the sideline when he purposely underthrew him in the red zone, but R.S. kept running; and HC Allen holding him accountable after dropping the pass in the red zone; tells me they see extreme potential and improvement, even though he has been productive; solid special teams securing the onside kick.

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