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Raiders sniffing first place in AFC West

Ignore the fact, if you will, that two of Oakland’s three victories are against 1-6 teams, but they are a Broncos loss to the Saints away from a first-place tie in the AFC West after their win against the Kansas City Chiefs today.
Sure, it was the Chiefs, just as last week it was the lowly Jaguars without their starting quarterback and starting running back for most of the game, but it’s also the kind of game the Raiders had a penchant for losing in recent seasons.
From that standpoint, give the Raiders credit for taking care of business and buying another week to get more players healthy and find some answers for their offensive inconsistencies.

– Running back Darren McFadden rushed for 114 yards Sunday. Make no mistake, most of that yardage came long after the outcome was sealed and the Chiefs had cashed it in for the day.
Best case, it’s a start. Worst-case, the Raiders still haven’t figured out a way to get McFadden untracked for an entire game.
At one point, he had 17 yards on 12 carries before he bursted for 19 yards. Late in the game, he tacked on a 28-yarder and finished with 73 yards once the Raiders led by 14 or more.
In other words, the run game very much remains a huge concern.

– The Raiders benefitted from four Chiefs turnovers — interceptions by Matt Giordano and Pat Lee, a fumble by quarterback Matt Cassel and a muffed punt by Javier Arenas.
That was more than enough to offset an interception of Carson Palmer on Oakland’s first offensive play.

– Former Raiders cornerback Stanford Routt intercepted Palmer on a pass for Darrius Heyward-Bey to start the game. From there, the Raiders got the better of Routt, by far, the rest of the game.
Heyward-Bey put a move on Routt on a sideline pass that Heyward-Bey turned into a 32-yard touchdown. Routt also was late making the play on a post route by Denarius Moore that went for a touchdown.
Routt said he enjoys getting paid by “half the AFC West.” On Sunday, he helped both teams, so that’s only fitting.

– The Raiders offensive line did a much better job looking after Palmer today, as promised.
Palmer got smacked around pretty good against the Jaguars a week earlier, prompting the offensive linemen to redouble their efforts and make a point of playing better against the Chiefs. It worked.
Palmer wasn’t sacked on 28 dropbacks, and he wasn’t hit much, either. Palmer did have at least three passes tipped at or near the line of scrimmage.
Overall, Palmer finished 14 of 28 for 209 yards. However, he had a handful of passes dropped that were right on the money,

– The Raiders committed only two penalties for 20 yards today, which represents a huge improvement over the past couple of games.
The Chiefs, by comparsion, got called for five penalties for 40 yards.

– Philip Wheeler led the Raiders with 11 tackles and recorded one of his team’s three sacks. Rookie Miles Burris added sevent tackles.
Rolando McClain rounded out the solid game for the linebacking corps with a sack of Brady Quinn and a few other key plays.

– Coach Allen opted against activating linebacker Aaron Curry to the 53-man roster. He has another week-plus to decide whether to activate Curry, waive him or place him on injured-reserve.
Allen said he anticipates Curry being activated before the 21-day window expires, perhaps in time for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game next Sunday.

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  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    ghosttothepost Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    S. Bush — that’s exactly right. Seymour personifies Raider defense like it used to be played. Knock em down and then stomp in em once they’re down. I’ll take an entire D made up of Seymour’s nasty attitude.
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    Exactly. Seymour is a throw back. Seymour is a guy who is not afraid to punch Rothleisberger in the grill on national TV. We NEED this guy! And if any of you think this has not rubbed off on guys like Shaughnessy, Houston, and Bryant think again.

  • Charlie

    Raidermann99

    Players are 80% of the game.
    You seem to forget that we have not run effectively against a good defense in the last ten years. Look it up.
    Miami,Giants, Ravens Steelers etc. all completely shut down our run game.We padded stats agianst teams like the Bucs and Donkeys when they were weak.

    Our Oline dictates what Knapp can call.

    Are you old enough to remember what the Raiders looked like in the late 60′s and 70′s?

    Do you really think Plunkett got better when he came to Oakland? How about Hubbard, Daniels, Van Eeghan etc. Slow, slower and slowest.

    THEY WERE GOOD BECAUSE OUR OLINE CRUSHED PEOPLE!!!!!!!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    inonewordraider Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    don’t look now, but teams won’t even thow huffs way!
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    Thank you. You are exactly right. Mike Huff is quietly becoming very good on the island. And if that isn’t enough, so is Pat Lee. And once again, Tyvon Branch has a really really solid game. So did Gio.

  • Charlie

    Seymourbush

    That was when we dominated both lines of scrimmage. We could take stupid penalties and still win.
    We are no where near that good. We need to play smart.

    Seymour is a poor value relative to his salary.
    He will not be on the team next year. Our number one pick will be a DT.

    Great to win but we are not the Raiders of old.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Seymour’s meltdowns are exactly what Shaugnessy, Houston, and Bryant do NOT need. Seymour’s lackluster work ethic and not attending off season workouts with the team are exactly what those guys DON’T need either. They should be looking to Wheeler he is the emerging leader of the D.

    R Seymour is a throw back that should be thrown back. As usual Seymour/Glenn you are on the wrong side of every issue, just like Hussein.
    _____

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Exactly. Seymour is a throw back. Seymour is a guy who is not afraid to punch Rothleisberger in the grill on national TV. We NEED this guy! And if any of you think this has not rubbed off on guys like Shaughnessy, Houston, and Bryant think again.

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    Good day to be a member of the raider nation. enjoy the win, stop complaining. bring on tampa.

  • DEATHROW 55

    Seymore back to his old self lol, I guess Hali was right we can be dirty but what’s anybody going to do to Seymore , not a damn thing. Castle looked like a lil biatch squirming around in a fetal position.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    The sportsman in me says if Peyton and the donkeys are or become elite, so be it. It’s our job to get that good or better. Then I see him bust his thumbnail on that helmet last night and the homer in me says a broken thumb would just great. Think that back up QB can run that offense? I don’t.

  • inonewordraider

    we lose sunday, we don’t know what we have. we beat tampa=contender

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Does MistaBrown bring his weird political beliefs into EVERY post, or just most of them?

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    We need a 6 game winning streak to even think about this division starting with yesterday not last week. If you need OT to beat the Jags with their best RB and QB out of the game you got problems.

    I like the direction of the Defense. McClain in his new role is thriving and Burris and Wheeler are playin BIG. A Carter, where are you ? A Curry is not even needed because I dont want to see Burris sit down.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    If getting handled without double teams = old self I guess you are right. If Seymour was at least drawing 2 guys I would be a little better with his lack of production but 1 guy is handling him alone.
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    DEATHROW 55 Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Seymore back to his old self lo

  • inonewordraider

    not that anybody’s counting but:

    russell wilson L
    rgIII L
    mike vick L
    cam newton

    CP W
    Andrew Luck W

    I like Russell and RGIII, but a certain poster makes if fun for me when they lose

  • ghosttothepost

    MistaBrown is entitled to his opinion … even if it is wrong

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    POST-792, AGREED.TO QUOTE AN OLD NFL FILMS BIT NARRATED BY HARRY KALAS “IN THIS AGE OF HIGH TECH,COMPUTERISED FOOTBALL,THE RAIDERS STILL WIN BY BEATING U TO THE GROUND,THEN STEPPING OVER U” DAMN I MISS THOSE DAYS…

  • Dakota

    Don’t look now but Romney leading in Ohio…

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    RaiderDuck Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Does MistaBrown bring his weird political beliefs into EVERY post, or just most of them?
    ===================================

    Jamista Clown brings his nonsensical idiocy into everything he does. He’s just fired up because his Cleveland Browns won yesterday.

  • DMAC

    If you need OT to beat the Jags with their best RB and QB out of the game you got problems.
    ========

    Please look at post 743

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    The packers had a hard time with Jax too. Just saying

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    MistaBrown Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Seymour’s meltdowns are exactly what Shaugnessy, Houston, and Bryant do NOT need. Seymour’s lackluster work ethic and not attending off season workouts with the team are exactly what those guys DON’T need either.
    ====================================

    Uh, he did attend the offseason workouts with the team. You are confusing the staff letting him have a day off earlier during the bye. And the reason they were doing that was they were REWARDING him for being a stellar player and an excellent role model. So, our choice is, as usual, we can listen to bona fide long term NFL people who have had long term bona fide success in this league, or we can listen to you.

  • DMAC

    When the D-line comes to play we win.
    Nuff said!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Dakota Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Don’t look now but Romney leading in Ohio…
    ======================================

    Rush Limbaugh said so, so it must be true.

  • Dakota

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    Dakota Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Don’t look now but Romney leading in Ohio…
    ======================================

    Rush Limbaugh said so, so it must be true.
    +++++++

    Living in denial…..sad

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    PLAY THROUGH THE WHISTLE..WIZ-1 WAS THAT KIND OF PLAYER.NEED 52 WITH ATTITUDE LIKE THAT..

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Charlie Says: Seymour is a poor value relative to his salary.
    He will not be on the team next year. Our number one pick will be a DT.==================================

    Enough of Seymours’ salary was guaranteed this year that it would have been really stupid not to play him. He probably won’t be here next year, but I still applaud Al for bringing his attitude and leadership into a drifting aimless defense. He has disappeared at times, but I think that is more aging body than attitude. He has committed some dumb personal fouls, but big ben and last night weren’t among them.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Dakota Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    Dakota Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Don’t look now but Romney leading in Ohio…
    ======================================

    Rush Limbaugh said so, so it must be true.
    +++++++

    Living in denial…..sad

    ================================================

    Shrug. We’ll find out in 8 1/2 days who’s right and who’s not.

  • JLofty

    <Mondays are SOOOOOO much better after a Raider vic!

  • RockyMountainRaider

    So debating if i should take that thursday game off for the raiders and broncos, its at home so i think we play tough.

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    MistaBrown Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Seymour’s meltdowns are exactly what Shaugnessy, Houston, and Bryant do NOT need. Seymour’s lackluster work ethic and not attending off season workouts with the team are exactly what those guys DON’T need either.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The knowledge that seymour brings to this youg guys is irreplaceable. what goes on in the practices and games we know nothing about. But im sure sey gives guys words of advice and leadership. that hit on cassel brought a flag but you dont stop on a play until the whistle blows. he Finished the play.

  • RaidingTexas

    Charlie Says:

    Too many people on this blog are football ignorant.

    —————————————-

    Not just here, but even in other Raiders discussion areas like CBSSports and Bleacher Report. I see it everywhere. Man, I wish all of Raider Nation was smarter than that, but it’s not. Maybe a lot of the rational fans finally abandoned the team after Al’s final decade of deranged futility, leaving the Nation watered down with a lot of ADD football knee-jerkers.

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    RaidingTexas Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Charlie Says:

    Too many people on this blog are football ignorant.

    —————————————-

    Not just here, but even in other Raiders discussion areas like CBSSports and Bleacher Report. I see it everywhere. Man, I wish all of Raider Nation was smarter than that, but it’s not. Maybe a lot of the rational fans finally abandoned the team after Al’s final decade of deranged futility, leaving the Nation watered down with a lot of ADD football knee-jerkers.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You dont like to read other peoples opinions? than GTFO. stick to reading articles of this so-called experts who constantly bash the raiders. and skip the coment section.

  • RockyMountainRaider

    RaidingTexas Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Charlie Says:

    Too many people on this blog are football ignorant.

    —————————————-

    Not just here, but even in other Raiders discussion areas like CBSSports and Bleacher Report. I see it everywhere. Man, I wish all of Raider Nation was smarter than that, but it’s not. Maybe a lot of the rational fans finally abandoned the team after Al’s final decade of deranged futility, leaving the Nation watered down with a lot of ADD football knee-jerkers.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You dont like to read other peoples opinions? than GTFO. stick to reading articles of this so-called experts who constantly bash the raiders. and skip the coment section.
    ——————————————————-

    Honesty what do you expect whena proud franchise looses for 10 consecutive years in a row. Patience is not granted no more, not for me at least. You see all these coaches and GM’s come in and change things right away we want that. The age of instant gratification.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Charlie Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Raidermann99

    Players are 80% of the game.
    You seem to forget that we have not run effectively against a good defense in the last ten years. Look it up.
    Miami,Giants, Ravens Steelers etc. all completely shut down our run game.We padded stats agianst teams like the Bucs and Donkeys when they were weak.

    Our Oline dictates what Knapp can call.

    Are you old enough to remember what the Raiders looked like in the late 60’s and 70’s?

    Do you really think Plunkett got better when he came to Oakland? How about Hubbard, Daniels, Van Eeghan etc. Slow, slower and slowest.

    THEY WERE GOOD BECAUSE OUR OLINE CRUSHED PEOPLE!!!!!!!
    ==================================================
    Charlie, I’m old enough to have witnessed the great O lines.

    Yes, the OLine of the 70′s was one of the greatest ever assembled. Shell, Uppy, 00/Dalby, Vella, Buehler. One for the ages.

    I absolutely agree that players are more important than coaches and think your ’80% of the game’ figure is reasonable.

    I do not think it’s fair to place all of the blame on Krapp for the Raider ground game futility.

    That said, I do think it’s fair to question the move to the ZBS, or at the very least the inability to have it functioning well by this stage, or having the right personnel to execute it.

    I also agree that while an OC is limited in his playcalling capabilities by the personnel available to him, that Krapp is a horrible playcaller and does not use the roster to maximum advantage.

    IMO, Krapp is largely (but not completely) responsible for the regression we’ve witnessed offensively. I also think his playcalling stinks and don’t think that’s mainly attributable to personnel woes.

    I think we can do a lot better than Krapp.

  • McFaddens_Sneakers

    RockyMountainRaider Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    RaidingTexas Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Charlie Says:

    Too many people on this blog are football ignorant.

    —————————————-

    Not just here, but even in other Raiders discussion areas like CBSSports and Bleacher Report. I see it everywhere. Man, I wish all of Raider Nation was smarter than that, but it’s not. Maybe a lot of the rational fans finally abandoned the team after Al’s final decade of deranged futility, leaving the Nation watered down with a lot of ADD football knee-jerkers.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You dont like to read other peoples opinions? than GTFO. stick to reading articles of this so-called experts who constantly bash the raiders. and skip the coment section.
    ——————————————————-

    Honesty what do you expect whena proud franchise looses for 10 consecutive years in a row. Patience is not granted no more, not for me at least. You see all these coaches and GM’s come in and change things right away we want that. The age of instant gratification.
    ____________________________________

    I understand the frustation i been in the same ride with the raider nation all along. but im not jumping of the bus you got to ride or die with the team. We have to take it one game at a time. we beat KC now we have to beat tampa wich is a winnable game.

  • Charlie

    It looks like I hit a hot button with the term “football ignorant”. I am simply of the opinion that there will not be a quick fix to the mess we have been in for the last ten years. Too many people look at changing schemes and critizing coaches because the fix is percieved as quick and easy.
    (How did the Eagles D look yesterday after firing the DC?)
    It implies that hope for a Super Bowl contender is just around the corner.
    IT IS NOT.

    Winning in the NFL requires superior Offensive and Defensive linesa and a competent QB. Those units take time to build and they have been neglected for ten years. Other than Grove,Gallery and Wiz II we have not invested a first or second round pick on either line in the last ten years.You might find the next Upshaw in the 7th round but the odds are against it. (Upshaw was a first round pick).

    We are making progress and I have been and always will be a Raider fan.
    Thinking coaching changes and new schemes will fix things is what we have tried for the last ten years and it has failed. We need to focus on upgrading player talent and it will take time GIVEN WHAT REGGIE INHERITED.

  • sirblitzalot

    Isn’t funny how some can be so polite, articulate and literate, yet be completely disconnected? I am so sure bring in those 3 old dogs, is not going to upset the chemistry. Wha? The best teacher is experience, so start learning young uns!