Postgame notes, quotes and observations on Raiders-Bucs game
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, November 4th, 2012 at 7:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
At one point Sunday, things looked promising for the Raiders. The Denver Broncos trailed the Cincinnati Bengals 20-17 in the fourth quarter and the Raiders seemed poised to forge a first-place tie in the AFC West with a victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaners.
Then, the Broncos rallied for a 31-23 victory and the Raiders got run over by rookie running back Doug Martin and the Buccaneers at the Coliseum in a 42-32 loss.
Now, the Raiders are at 3-5, two games behind the Broncos and one game behind the San Diego Chargers in the AFC West, with losses against both teams, to boot.
How they got here is quite mind-boggling. The Raiders entered the locker room with a 10-7 lead, only to watch the Buccaneers score five touchdowns in the second half, three on runs of 45, 67 and 70 yards by Martin.
“We didn’t make enough plays to win the game but we were successful moving the football,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “Our team hung in there, our team battled. We tried to make a comeback and came up a little bit short.”
That the Raiders were even in the game at the end is somewhat remarkable.
The Buccaneers led 35-17 in the fourth quarter before the Raiders mounted a furious comeback.
Quarterback Carson Palmer cobbled together back-to-back drives that netted two touchdowns and 145 yards on 18 plays to make it 35-32. Then, they got the ball back with 2 minutes, 42 seconds left at their own 36-yard line.
Surely, the Raiders would navigate their way into Sebastian Janikowski’s field-goal range — about 20 yards — and then take a few shots at a touchdown.
No. That wasn’t the plan. The Raiders had the Bucs defense on its heels, and they wanted to finish it off right then and there.
“We were trying to win the game,” Allen said. “We were definitely trying to win the game and, obviously, we didn’t execute good enough and weren’t able to do it.”
Palmer launched back-to-back 20-yard passes, the first for wide receiver Rod Streater, the second for receiver Denarius Moore.
Palmer’s first pass fell incomplete. His second pass fell into the hands of Bucs safety Ahmad Black, who returned the ball 34 yards. Martin sealed the outcome with his fourth touchdown three plays later.
“Obviously, to come back and then to not finish a team, it was difficult,” Palmer said. “But we fought, showed a lot of heart. But didn’t make enough plays when it was all said and done.”
– Martin finished with 251 yards rushing, with 220 of that coming in the second half and 182 of that 220 on the three long touchdown runs.
Not what many expected from a Raiders defense that played well against the run in recent games. The Raiders entered the game having allowed an average of 102.1 yards their first seven games, at an average of 3.9 per carry.
The Bucs amassed 278 yards and 8.7 per carry.
It was all a bit much for Raiders cornerback Michael Huff to digest, especially when he predicted the Raiders would be a top-five defense this season.
“I still don’t know what really happened,” Huff said. “We played so well in the first half; we gave up a few big plays but nothing really to beat us. Then the second half was kind of a snowball effect. We couldn’t stop the run, we couldn’t stop the pass.”
Martin is an Oakland native. His career game came before numerous family members, friends and former coaches.
“It’s awesome,” Martin said. “Words can’t describe it. I had a lot of family and friends, and high school teammates, schoolmates and teachers. It’s just indescribable.”
– The Raiders allowed 515 yards on Sunday. That’s quite a contrast to the previous three games when the Raiders held their opponents under 300 yards in each game.
Missed tackles, an inability to pressure quarterback Josh Freeman on a consistent basis, missed tackles, blown coverages, you name it, there’s plenty of blame to go around.
“We didn’t tackle well,” Allen said. “They did a good job of blocking, the runner did a great job of running, and we had an opportunity to make a few plays and missed some tackles. And when you miss tackles on that guy, he takes it for big gains and that’s exactly what happened.”
– Raiders tight end Brandon Myers scored two of Oakland’s four touchdowns Sunday.
Go figure. Myers entered the game without a touchdown during his 3 1/2-year NFL career. Overall, Myers finished with eight receptions for 59 yards in his breakout season as the Raiders starting tight end.
– Palmer passed for 414 yards and four touchdowns. However, he also had three of his 61 passes intercepted, including the one that ended their comeback.
Palmer came within 4 yards of breaking his Raiders record and 11 of setting the Raiders franchise record, set by Jeff Hostetler.
He took the blame making poor throws and decisions on the interceptions. In the locker room, he received nothing but praise for bringing back the Raiders from a huge deficit.
“Obviously, you can sit back and wish you did it differently after a loss; and after a win, everything looks right,” Palmer said. “We had some critical errors. I had some critical errors.”
Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey said Palmer had the players believing the whole time.
“Carson’s the type of guy, he has the talent to bring us back,” Heyward-Bey said. “But it’s all about his leadership. The stuff he was staying in the huddle, just keeping us into the game, making us believe we could make a play.
“At first he was like, ‘We just need one. Now we need two.’ We went out there and tried to make it happen but, unfortunately, we just ended up on the wrong end.”
– Defensive lineman Desmond Bryant was taken to a local hospital with an accelerated heartbeat early in the second half, a team official said.
The official said Bryant was taken to the hospital as a precautionary measure. No other update was provided.
– Lamarr Houston turned in the key play on special teams when he blocked a field-goal attempt in the first quarter and returned it 34 yards.
The Raiders cashed in the drive with a Janikowski field goal.
It turned out to be a mixed bag on special teams play overall.
Shane Lechler faked a punt in the second quarter, throwing a short pass to running back Taiwan Jones. The Bucs sniffed out the fake, tackled Jones well shy of the first-down marker and took over on downs.
“It’s part of some things that we have in our arsenal,” Allen said. “They brought the gunner in and they did a nice job of adjusting back out and they made the play and we didn’t.”
– Running back Darren McFadden rushed for 17 yards on seven carries before leaving the game with a right ankle injury.
“I’m not really sure the extent of it,” Allen said. “The X-rays were negative but, obviously. we’ll have to take a look at it and see where he’s at.”
Making matters worse, backup back Mike Goodson also suffered an ankle injury, and he wasn’t able to finish the game.
Allen said Goodson did not receive X-rays on his ankle.
For now, the Raiders might be looking at more of Jones and fullback Marcel Reece if McFadden and Goodson aren’t able to play next Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens.
They also have the potential to sign a free agent or sign rookie Jeremy Stewart from their practice squad.
– The Buccaneers beat the Raiders at home for the firs time in six tries. Overall, the Raiders lead the series 6-3, including a loss in the Super Bowl at the end of the 2002 season.
– Huff and Moore had games they would just as soon forget.
Huff got beat by receivers Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams for touchdowns, and he was part of a duo that got beat by Jackson on a 64-yard pass a few plays before he got behind Huff for a 20-yard touchdown.
Huff also gambled on an out route to Williams that quarterback Josh Freeman delivered just out of Huff’s reach, with Williams turning the short reception into a long gain.
Moore caught only four of the nine passes thrown his way. It looked as if he and Palmer were out of synch more times than they were on the same page.
One play, Palmer sailed a pass 25-30 yards over Moore’s head, perhaps expecting Moore to keep running. A couple of other passes hit off Moore’s hands and went incomplete.
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
ANDREW LUCK 433 PASSING YARDS….another cam newt-dumb record bites the dust LMAO!!!!
November 4th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
OF COURSE IM #1 !!! WHITE POWER
November 4th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
when the eff will da accept responsibility? he keeps blaming the players…
November 4th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
whats up wit it folks?
The bucs led by josh freeman and doug martin manhandled our beloved raiders. They bludgeoned at beat them at every turn. The bucs are not any where a top team, they are middle of the road at best. They fell asleep at the wheel, as middling teams will do, and let the raiders make a late run. However they did enough end the end to prove that they are a better team than the raiders. The defense is better, the offense is better, and the qb is better.
The raiders on the other hand continued to prove and hammer home the fact that they still have not met mediocrity, and only struggle against the bottom feeders of the nfl.
Carson palmer with 3 second half picks also is closer to cementing his dubious distinction as one of the all time sports trade bust. Three and five, barley alive, no super bowl, no validation.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Seeing Pagano give that speech in the locker room was moving. I bet that team rallies.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
The coaching the Raiders need is not all there.That is evident in today’s game and many games before today. Make the red zone a zone of mismatches. think it, breath it, do it!!
November 4th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Nycraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
387.nycraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
bush isnt worth crying about, man some of you in here have a tough time letting go and in reality Bush wasnt worth the money he got in chicago.
Really? How many rush yards did we have today?Mcfadden couldnt run in the zone scheme 3 years ago when Bush made it look legit. Bush is a much better back then McfaGGen–
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bush 10 carries 16 yds in todays game. lol..hes averaging 3.7 yds per carry this year. i doubt he would average more than 2-3 yds per carry with our offensive line. my point is he wasnt worth the money he got in chicago. I also dont think he either is a good fit for zbs either.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Un-F’n believable.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Losing Bryant during the game and not dressing Bikiludi could not have helped the run d today…bad set of circumstance there. Dez is a big loss for that unit.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
when the eff will da accept responsibility? he keeps blaming the players…
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Cuz he’s the right guy for the job…you gotta believe in him
November 4th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Mistic1
The mere fact that you are writing about this loss with such glee is proof that you are not a Raiders fan. Go somewhere else.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Was this just a blip on the radar for palmer? Or are these the dreaded symptoms of a turn over addiction that palmer has suffered before?
One thing is certain, with this being this second failed comeback that ends with a palmer pick this season, his 7-11 record has not been enjoyable.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Mistic1
The mere fact that you are writing about this loss with such glee is proof that you are not a Raiders fan. Go somewhere else.
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Mistic ain’t going anywhere until the Raiders win and are in the playoffs.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
papertiger418 Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Mistic1
The mere fact that you are writing about this loss with such glee is proof that you are not a Raiders fan. Go somewhere else.
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Exactly.
It’s so obvious he’s not a Raider fan i don’t know how there can ever be any question.
I have more respect for Super Charger who at least has the ballz to say who he’s rooting for.
Mistic doesn’t have the guts to man up and admit what he is, instead pretends to be a Raider fan…but does a lousy job of it.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
well a few more losses and we can look forward to a high draft pick ……oh wait
November 4th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Can you guys pretend I said something to really piss you off and respond to it just to make yourselves feel better? I know it would make me feel better.
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Sorry. But you typically make too much sense for that. But FU if it makes you feel any better. Haha.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Was this just a blip on the radar for palmer? Or are these the dreaded symptoms of a turn over addiction that palmer has suffered before?
One thing is certain, with this being this second failed comeback that ends with a palmer pick this season, his 7-11 record has not been enjoyable.
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B.S. You enjoy every minute of it liar.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Was this just a blip on the radar for palmer? Or are these the dreaded symptoms of a turn over addiction that palmer has suffered before?
One thing is certain, with this being this second failed comeback that ends with a palmer pick this season, his 7-11 record has not been enjoyable.
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Na Palmer is the reason the Raiders lost.
It’s obvious to anyone that’s played the game.
Dude if over hyped, overrated, and a clumsy no talent failure.
His parents are ashamed.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Should have traded Dmac this week.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Yeah man, let Real Raider fans commiserate. I do not take losses well. Our defense against the run is BS. McClain doesn’t play hard every play, even though he made some tackles today, he doesn’t even try to fight thru blocks. He seems to have a ” I’m just doing my assignment, screw what happens approach. He makes way too much money for that. Cut hi, now, send a message to the team. What’s the diff anyway, if guys are breaking runs like that which hasn’t happened since like 1940. Matt Millen would have taken that personally if necessary and creamed the guy the next time he ran inside.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
giving up 300 rushing yards had something to do with it too.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I can only describe this feeling as heartbroken.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I’m just not in the mood to deal with his vitriol right now. Carson made mistakes but fought to the end, and Mistic’s talking about him like he’s Rob f@#$*&ng Johnson. Did he watch the game? I respect the effort and yes, I would rather have SuperCharged come in here to troll us than have one of our own p*^%#@#ing on the team while they’re down.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Palmer threw an INT that ended the comeback. W/O Palmer, we wouldn’t have even been in that position. Raiders lost for one reason. The defense couldn’t stop Martin. STFU about Palmer. This team has much bigger problems. Raiders still don’t have enough quality players thanks to Al.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Yeah man, let Real Raider fans commiserate. I do not take losses well. Our defense against the run is BS. McClain doesn’t play hard every play, even though he made some tackles today, he doesn’t even try to fight thru blocks. He seems to have a ” I’m just doing my assignment, screw what happens approach. He makes way too much money for that. Cut hi, now, send a message to the team. What’s the diff anyway, if guys are breaking runs like that which hasn’t happened since like 1940. Matt Millen would have taken that personally if necessary and creamed the guy the next time he ran inside.
>> Raiders need to cut the dead weight. need a Corner and a pass rusher in next years draft. and probably could have traded Mcinjured for a 2nd round pick last week too.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I’m coming out with a new multi TOOL.
I’m calling it the Mistic1
It makes a lot of noise, but has no use full purpose.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
People act like Rolando was on the field for all of Martin’s runs.
I would be suprised if he was on the field for half of them.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Palmer does throw picks, but he has had poor pass protection almost every game. Tampa kept overloading one side forcing him to his hot read, we have three and outs probably more than 50% of the time, not even blaming the corners. Where was Tommy Kelly, Seymour? Whatever happened to stack and shed?
November 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Palmer is still a lot better than Campbell was. with JC the Raiders lose 42-14 as campbell wouldn’t throw it without the WR being WIDE OPEN. Which is why he’ll never be a starter again.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
If Jason Campbell played today, we would have lost 50-10
November 4th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
People act like Rolando was on the field for all of Martin’s runs.
I would be suprised if he was on the field for half of them.
>> McClain is a bust for a top 10 pick. case is closed on that dude.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
The part that kills me isn’t the INT, it’s that we lost DMAC and it didn’t matter because the o-line is so terrible he wasn’t making much of an impact anyway. I was really pulling for DMAC, and now he’s injured (which doesn’t surprise me) but so ineffective that his absence is not the crushing loss it was last year (which really surprises me). His time with the Raiders will end with a whimper, which really frustrates me.
Also the D getting blown up like USC against the Ducks. Man, that really gets my goat.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Did Kelly ever come back in the game? I wonder if his and Bryant’s absence had something to do with Martin’s big runs.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Looks like the countdown is on to take TP6 out for a spin. This team as I have tried to explain has not come any where near matching what we had at the beginning of last year. That was wining football, this is just lousy.
Multiple picks in crunch time, branch and huff being, branch and huff.The bucs did all they could to give this game to the raiders, but the raiders refused to accept the gift. In fact palmer took the game and delivered the game to the bucs with his scatter shot right arm as he has done several time since joining our beloved silver and black.
The impostor fans refuse to acknowledge the gravity of the failed palmer experiment. A roll of the dice that came up craps, palmer sags back into the lad of bone headed back breaking gaffes.
Coming soon, i would rather watch tp6 making the mistakes that palmer is making, at least he is an exciting young player. Palmer flailing about is just getting dull.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Run the Ball, Stop the run.
Win. Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
The “failed” Palmer experiment…LOL
November 4th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Yeah man, let Real Raider fans commiserate. I do not take losses well. Our defense against the run is BS. McClain doesn’t play hard every play, even though he made some tackles today, he doesn’t even try to fight thru blocks. He seems to have a ” I’m just doing my assignment, screw what happens approach. He makes way too much money for that. Cut hi, now, send a message to the team. What’s the diff anyway, if guys are breaking runs like that which hasn’t happened since like 1940. Matt Millen would have taken that personally if necessary and creamed the guy the next time he ran inside.
>> Raiders need to cut the dead weight. need a Corner and a pass rusher in next years draft. and probably could have traded Mcinjured for a 2nd round pick last week too.
I agree but we need a 2nd round pick. Where is Bergstrom? I’m not convinced McKenzie is a draft guru yet.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Doubtful about Pryor. They wouldn’t even let him pass to prospective players this week.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Palmer is still a lot better than Campbell was. with JC the Raiders lose 42-14 as campbell wouldn’t throw it without the WR being WIDE OPEN. Which is why he’ll never be a starter again.
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So true. The way the Oline played today the Bucs would have set a sack record to go along w their rushing record if Campbell was in there. He was a serviceable game manager when things were going well, but no way he will ever win a championship with anybody. I wish people would STFU about Campbell. It’s would actually be laughable if it wasn’t so ignorant and stupid.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
The only way Pryor plays this season is if Palmer gets injured. Palmer will be in the Pro Bowl this season.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Coaches failed to prepare the team with a comprehensive game plan to beat the Bucs. There was no offensive game plan other than 3 and outs. Palmer had to go to the no huddle to make anything happen. Coaches had no defensive strategy. Oakland was out coached today. Worst defensive performance in this storied franchises history. And who thought we hit rock bottom with our D last year. Chuck B would have done better today as our DC. Think about it. Could he have done worse. WTF, I thought we’d do better today.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
palmer is a good QB. he’s carried the team by himself so far. wonder WHY he was chucking it so much? maybe because the D was getting embarrassed. has no running game and an OLINE that plays on roller skates. Palmer is the Raiders MVP so far and the only reason this game was even interesting. come one Raider fans can’t figure this out? look what palmer has to work with. This team needs EVERYTHING in the draft. don’t even know where to start
November 4th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Pryor will never start a game with the Raider Mistic, get over it already.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
The play calling was really bad with our last chance, OC should have known Palmer is tired and D was going to be coming after him a screen or draw run play would have been call at the time
November 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Pryor will never start a game with the Raider Mistic, get over it already.
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Mistic ain’t gettin over anything.
Way to deep in it.
No matter how he spins it.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
A thirtysomething year old man from TB played better than some of our DB’S. It sound like it is going to be a long time of singing the blues.Remember over 8-8 save jobs!!!!
November 4th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Are people really talking TP? Too funny.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
People act like Rolando was on the field for all of Martin’s runs.
I would be suprised if he was on the field for half of them.
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he was there for every one that I noticed.
One was when he was blitzing and if he had any game presence it would have been for a loss. Instead he ran right by Martin trying to sack the QB. ON A RUNNING PLAY!
November 4th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
People are seriously blaming Palmer for this loss? wow ,there are 20 things we can blame before Palmer but if people are here just talking about him , then if that doesn’t prove you guys that these guys are just trolls then i don’t know what will
November 4th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
As one of you posted;
We got beat, brought out ghosts from the closest (rushing defense, that is); our units of strength (DLine &OLine, RB, special teams) have become burdens on the team.
However the Raiders are becoming a sum greater than it’s parts.
2013 NFL draft will be the most important in the history of Raider Nation!
November 4th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I’d rather talk about who was to blame for the loss instead of shifting it.
That run D was bush. Right up the gut too. Gashed. No doubt the hamster is good, but c’mon. You give up that kind of yardage and you are done. Point blank. No way around it.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
The investment in Pryor was a worse investment than Carson’s.
With Palmer we gave up a 1st and 2nd, and at least we get some performance out of it.
With Pryor, we gave up a 3rd round pick and he wears sweats and spits seeds every Sunday.
Basically, the same thing I do.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Watching josh freeman effeciently destroy the raider secondary was very strange. Having been of his since he played at k state, i couldnt help but marvel at how he has progressed as a pro. He reminds me most of the qb that once played here, Jason Cambell. Smart with the ball, can make very throw, looks to avoid turn overs, and can pick yp first downs and extend plays with his feet.
Palmer was a statue and a sitting duck. he was abused and left the game with skid marked drawls from crapping his pants in the 2nd half.
I miss good qb play, palmer stinks
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Is it just me, or did every single wild throw happen to be in Moore’s direction?
I love Moore, but he seemed to be running the wrong routes today.
He had a key drop early too…
The guy is regressing. Same as about every other offensive player except for Palmer.
But people don’t want to point their fingers at coaching.
shrug
November 4th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I think we will still go over 5-3 in remaining games, Bartell coming back next week along with A Curry , RT Smith cost 7 points and had his guy get to Palmer with ease, so hopefully Barnes and Spencer come back week after , Mcfadden being injured might be the best thing happening to us , We won’t really just run when we’re struggling just because of Mcfadden’s reputation..
November 4th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
McClain allowed Martin to run right by him on his first big run up the middle for a touchdown, changed the entire game.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Burris and Wheeler were on the field WITHOUT A DOUBT for everyone of Martin’s runs, and they repeatedly ran right at the rookie.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Watching josh freeman effeciently destroy the raider secondary was very strange. Having been of his since he played at k state, i couldnt help but marvel at how he has progressed as a pro. He reminds me most of the qb that once played here, Jason Cambell. Smart with the ball, can make very throw, looks to avoid turn overs, and can pick yp first downs and extend plays with his feet.
Palmer was a statue and a sitting duck. he was abused and left the game with skid marked drawls from crapping his pants in the 2nd half.
I miss good qb play, palmer stinks
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You are a complete imbecile.
Go root for a different team please.
You make all Raider fans look like morons.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Palmer is our best player on offense and this is his team, what highlights this is the fact that DMC (our best player on O the last 2 years) goes down and its not the end of the world (atleast not for a couple more months
) most fans and I would add players feel we can still compete in games as long as Palmer is standing, Hate him or love him he is now the star player on our offense. Knapp has made DMC an after thought and now his injury doesn’t even seem like a big deal, who would of thought this at the start of the season…..oh yeah Im sure most of ya lol
November 4th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
McClain allowed Martin to run right by him on his first big run up the middle for a touchdown, changed the entire game.
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Yup. He was blitzing… almost every other MLB in the NFL would have taken his head off.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Gdog Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Is it just me, or did every single wild throw happen to be in Moore’s direction?
I love Moore, but he seemed to be running the wrong routes today.
He had a key drop early too…
The guy is regressing. Same as about every other offensive player except for Palmer.
But people don’t want to point their fingers at coaching.
shrug
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Yes, we were only down 10 points when we were in TB territory , then Moore ran the wrong route , pressure on Palmer and it turns into INT, i don’t remember the 2 other occasions, i know the last Int was on a bad play call and no protection
November 4th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
With either Matty or TP in the that game would have been 57-17.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Please just ignore Mistic , if anybody think Campbell would have took us to 3 td drives right after our D f8ckkin it up , is just delusional , if Campbell can do that he would have been starting for some team , the way Mistic describes Campbell you would think he’s in the HOF or something but the guy is holding a clip board in Chicago every sunday
November 4th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Burris and Wheeler were on the field WITHOUT A DOUBT for everyone of Martin’s runs, and they repeatedly ran right at the rookie.
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All those plays were right over the middle.
There’s a reason they call the MLB “middle” line backer.
His gap assignment is the middle.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
So far the season is going just about the way i knew it would sadly. I knew that this cast of characters would not be able to carry the mantle, they just dont have the minerals.
It will soon be time to sweep out the hold overs, and fading ageing hype machines.
They are not good enough to hang with the mediocre teams like tampa, and beating the jags, or the lowly chiefs doesnt change that. This team is maybe 3-5 worst in the nfl. Palmer has not lived up to the billing, and will soon lead the raiders right out of the playoffs for the second straight year.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Pryor the jury has just been formed, no evidence presented yet.
The worse investment has been McClain (1st round draft pick) and the 2nd we gave for Barksdale and Jones.
Almost time to see who we have in Jones & Pryor.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Mistic is just troll , he just wants attention and would say anything that would get the most reaction from us fans, even he knows that blaming palmer for this loss is just plain stupid, but he will keep on talking like Palmer was the worst player on the field today and Campbell and other qb’s belong in the HOF , ignore the troll
November 4th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Mistic is still butt hurt that Jason was kicked to the curb by Hue.
Jason took his immense talent to Chicago. The disappointment of the entire NFL is still palatable.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Mistic,
You are 100% correct, Freeman and Jason Campbell are very similar.
Both guys have played a zillion games and never sniffed the playoffs.
Great analogy.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I bet you Curry is activated this week.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Gdog Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Is it just me, or did every single wild throw happen to be in Moore’s direction?
I love Moore, but he seemed to be running the wrong routes today.
He had a key drop early too…
The guy is regressing. Same as about every other offensive player except for Palmer.
But people don’t want to point their fingers at coaching.
shrug
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They gave Moores Y receiver position to streeter and put Moore in the slot. At least for most I the game. I was mystified like you about how lost DM looked until I put 2 and 2 together. It’s really the only explanation, unless Moore has started doing zzzzzirup too. He was shlt out there today, caused the first two picks all by himself. Not palmers fault.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Please just ignore Mistic , if anybody think Campbell would have took us to 3 td drives right after our D f8ckkin it up , is just delusional , if Campbell can do that he would have been starting for some team , the way Mistic describes Campbell you would think he’s in the HOF or something but the guy is holding a clip board in Chicago every sunday
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He is trolling, or an imbecile.
Still he makes the rest of us look like imbeciles also.
CP was the only player we had on offense today.
With better WR’s and an actual RT we would have won this game DESPITE the embarrassing defense.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
So far the season is going just about the way i knew it would sadly. I knew that this cast of characters would not be able to carry the mantle, they just dont have the minerals.
It will soon be time to sweep out the hold overs, and fading ageing hype machines.
They are not good enough to hang with the mediocre teams like tampa, and beating the jags, or the lowly chiefs doesnt change that. This team is maybe 3-5 worst in the nfl. Palmer has not lived up to the billing, and will soon lead the raiders right out of the playoffs for the second straight year.
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Look at you freaking twisting things to make it sound like we suck so bad, you were the 1 here all week last week telling us , how f8kin you have watched every TB game and how they’re really good on O , so don’t underestimate them just cuz of their record , now you want to call them mediocre just to make the Raiders look more worse , hahahaha, i think you just get checked into mental institution for realz
November 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Gdog Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Please just ignore Mistic , if anybody think Campbell would have took us to 3 td drives right after our D f8ckkin it up , is just delusional , if Campbell can do that he would have been starting for some team , the way Mistic describes Campbell you would think he’s in the HOF or something but the guy is holding a clip board in Chicago every sunday
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He is trolling, or an imbecile.
Still he makes the rest of us look like imbeciles also.
CP was the only player we had on offense today.
With better WR’s and an actual RT we would have won this game DESPITE the embarrassing defense.
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Exactly let him say anything , ignore the troll
November 4th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
The worst part is, Romo is setting himself up for another crushing loss and I can’t even take joy in it. Man, this one is going to be tough to shake.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
the guy is holding a clip board in Chicago every sunday
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….AND by choice to hold that clip board as well.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
We miss jacoby ford. We really do. Cause Moore doesn know the slot, obviously. And we don’t have anyone else that can play it apparently.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Watching the Cowboys lose brings a little pleasure to the sting.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
They gave Moores Y receiver position to streeter and put Moore in the slot. At least for most I the game. I was mystified like you about how lost DM looked until I put 2 and 2 together. It’s really the only explanation, unless Moore has started doing zzzzzirup too. He was shlt out there today, caused the first two picks all by himself. Not palmers fault.
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I couldn’t tell if Palmer was pissed at himself or at Moore after that one pick. We probably will never know because CP is such a team player, but the only plays that looked wild AT ALL were all in Moore’s direction.
That much is not debatable.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
In other news, russel wilson put on an electrifying show and continues to solidify his position as the starter. 3 tds and no picks and now stands at 5-4.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Curry and Bartell need to be activated; huff moved back to FS, Gio is a solid backup, not a fulltime starter though.
We need currys run defense, woul
d’ve been huge today.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
0ak r8rs Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
We miss jacoby ford. We really do. Cause Moore doesn know the slot, obviously. And we don’t have anyone else that can play it apparently.
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Shoulda kept Chaz.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Good for him, lol and you bring this up because?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Wilson did well today. RG3, not so much. I think he broke half his ribcage.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Real Raiders fans are hurt over this loss and we know what the team needs to fix , but please ignore these trolls , below who got nothing to add to this Raiders discussion except stupidity
Put your name there if you don’t give a f8kk what Mistic says and you believe he’s just a troll
People who believe Mistic is just a troll;
1. Mcfadden20
November 4th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
In other news, russel wilson put on an electrifying show and continues to solidify his position as the starter. 3 tds and no picks and now stands at 5-4.
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Become a Seattle fan then.
PLEASE?
Stop making Raider fans look like morons.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
One was when he was blitzing and if he had any game presence it would have been for a loss. Instead he ran right by Martin trying to sack the QB. ON A RUNNING PLAY!
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LOL
That didn’t happen.
On the first big run he attacked the lead blocker behind the LOS, spun off the lead blocker, and Martin went right by him.
You make it sound like air stopped 55, lol.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Moore only knows about the go route , none of these guys know a real route, all our damage was done on deep go route or fade route strikes, Mcfadden and Reece and Myers are the only real route runners we have, we should just convert Mcfadden into a wide receiver the guys heart is just not in RB position now , you can tell he doesn’t want to more punishment running with the rock
November 4th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Real Raiders fans are hurt over this loss and we know what the team needs to fix , but please ignore these trolls , below who got nothing to add to this Raiders discussion except stupidity
Put your name there if you don’t give a f8kk what Mistic says and you believe he’s just a troll
People who believe Mistic is just a troll;
1. Mcfadden20
2. 0ak r8rs
November 4th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
J Hill Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
One was when he was blitzing and if he had any game presence it would have been for a loss. Instead he ran right by Martin trying to sack the QB. ON A RUNNING PLAY!
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LOL
That didn’t happen.
On the first big run he attacked the lead blocker behind the LOS, spun off the lead blocker, and Martin went right by him.
You make it sound like air stopped 55, lol.
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That has happened before.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
If you believe Mistic is a troll add you name below
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November 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
If you believe Mistic is a troll add you name below
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November 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
yeah dumbaszssz curry should be activated but freakin reggie thinks burris is a player…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Hey guys,in a whisper, we got underutilized tightends that can score points. why not….
November 4th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The most glaring issue of the day was clearly palmers disastrous interceptions. In fact they were so god awful that even his fans in the local media had to acknowledge them.
The talk of palmer validating his trade is a joke. He will never come close to the super bowl and that is why he was brought in. This bad idea from the start was nothing more than a pipe dream….a crack pipe dream. Cooked up half cocked and ill conceived. We are doomed to this fate as long as palmer is the captain, he just isnt a winner. he cant avoid the critical errors in crunch time, just like we saw in atl. Just like we saw in so many games last year.
face it , the palmer trade is a flop
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Is it co-incidence we allowed huge running games by other running backs , on days we couldn’t stop their passing game?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
just saw burris blown back 6 yards on a run..
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
russell Wilson has a team that runs the ball, blocks and plays defense. Luck and RG 3 are playing with MUCH less than wilson.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
yeah dumbaszssz curry should be activated but freakin reggie thinks burris is a player…
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Hey Einstein, Burris is a player. He’s also a rookie. The guy is going to have growing pains.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Obvious offensive PI on Roddy no flag, smh, I picked the Cowboys this week for my upset
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Close to the zone it is mainly about body position. Thoughts.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
russell Wilson has a team that runs the ball, blocks and plays defense. Luck and RG 3 are playing with MUCH less than wilson.
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Ignore him
November 4th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Well …
So mcuh for trying to force feed that running game.
Pass first offense now folks with DMac out.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
You can put me down for the poll, Mcfadden20, but it won’t do anything to stop him from coming here. If anything, he’ll relish the attention.
We all know who cares about the team and who wishes to pursue some particular agenda that hardly has anything to do with our team.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
You guys get s8ckered into Mistic’s rants so easily everybody and their momma knows Mistic is a hater and troll #1 , he’s even worse troll then Beech and company
November 4th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
enjoy the growing pains while they lose dvmbfk
November 4th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
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November 4th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Morilla Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
yeah dumbaszssz curry should be activated but freakin reggie thinks burris is a player…
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Hey Einstein, Burris is a player. He’s also a rookie. The guy is going to have growing pains.
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Einstein has some decent points once in a while, but he hates anything that didn’t come from the crypt keeper. Thus the name “Al_IstheRaiders”. Ignore him. Burris has already had more impressive plays this year than McLain has had in his whole shltty NFL career.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
J Hill Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Well …
So mcuh for trying to force feed that running game.
Pass first offense now folks with DMac out.
>> Raiders need Blocking. Running backs are a dime a dozen now. raiders could trade Mcfadden and roll with Goodson and Jones. the key is that roller skating OLINE. They were better in 2010,11.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Get the best players on the field. I have no problem with our rookie Burris. McClain is a proven failure to me on and off the field.Plug Curry in leave McClain out and test the waters.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Our Run D basically starts with pass D, when we show we can stop the pass, our run D plays well , all the games where we got ran over, we couldn’t stop the other team from passing either, and the games we did well stopping the run , we showed we could stop them from gaining yards through the air, it’s not co-incidence Run D got worse after V-jax got that huge page on 3rd and forever
November 4th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
pass catch***
November 4th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
People act like Rolando was on the field for all of Martin’s runs.
I would be suprised if he was on the field for half of them.
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He was certainly there for the 1st big run. He asked Martin to dance. Martin turned him down and ran into the end zone.
Pathetic. It really looked like McClain side stepped him. Ole!
November 4th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
I don’t blame Burris for having a bad game. He’s a kid. Our gameplan and execution on defense looked so EXPOSED though.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
no problem with burris? how much did doug martin run on us today?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
wtf? now ive heard everything…keep giving this clown excuses…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
I just knew Mistic would be in here crowing about the Bucs victory. Nothing makes him happier than to see our team and QB come up short. You see the excitement in his posts?
#imposter
November 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Do you really want to see Huff moved from CB?
Why not just keep him there and let MM34 take over for Gio?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
#114
Perhaps we should call RoMac “The Matador”
November 4th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
0ak r8rs Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Morilla Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
yeah dumbaszssz curry should be activated but freakin reggie thinks burris is a player…
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Hey Einstein, Burris is a player. He’s also a rookie. The guy is going to have growing pains.
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Einstein has some decent points once in a while, but he hates anything that didn’t come from the crypt keeper. Thus the name “Al_IstheRaiders”. Ignore him. Burris has already had more impressive plays this year than McLain has had in his whole shltty NFL career.
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Your right if you going to hate the new management , just because their name is not Al D , then i think he should find another team , AL D is not going to come back , he’s not here anymore , but maybe that simple fact is over his head and he thinks they removed Al D from management
November 4th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Like we r supposed to be impressed that they have found a spot for out multi-million dollar mayor McCheese? He can only be effective on obvious running plays (and not so much today either). Yea, that’s why we drafted him number one. So he could be an inconsistent role player and cause a 4th round pick to see every defensive snap. Awesome. We have the only shltty Alabama defensive player ever. Thanks Al. So typical.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Cowboys lose. Like us, they are 3-5
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
This Oline was good last year. basically the same starters minus the RT. maybe its the OLINE coach and scheme. don’t have enough picks to draft a new OLINE. would like to see this team get a pass rusher and corner.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I know Mistic is not a Raiders fan, Mistic is just a troll
1.Mcfadden20
2.Oak r8rs
3.Papertiger418
4.Try Some Reality
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
mctroll 20 keep justifying the losses…its got nothing to do with al other than reggie is too stupid to tie his shoes…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I have a problem with the whole defense, Wheeler got caught in the wash along with Burris and McClain, Dline played like garbage so did Huff Gio, can’t just blame one person when you give up 278 yards rushing
November 4th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Hey, I love AL Davis what is the point!!!
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Run D wasn’t bad to start the game but got worse after they couldn’t stop the pass O , Do Miami, Den, and this game rings a well? all those games we couldn’t stop their pass O , hence they were more committed to trying to stop the pass because our secondary really sucks , so we got burned on the ground in all these games
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I will be so glad to see Knapp and McLain go.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
raiders will go in and upset the Ravens next week. 30-24
November 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Like we r supposed to be impressed that they have found a spot for out multi-million dollar mayor McCheese? He can only be effective on obvious running plays (and not so much today either). Yea, that’s why we drafted him number one. So he could be an inconsistent role player and cause a 4th round pick to see every defensive snap. Awesome. We have the only shltty Alabama defensive player ever. Thanks Al. So typical.
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55 won’t be a Rider next year.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
mctroll 20 keep justifying the losses…its got nothing to do with al other than reggie is too stupid to tie his shoes…
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OH i guess Al Davis never lost games right ? and who’s justifying the losses, if your going to just come here and bash the new management , why are you even fan of this team, Al D is not here any more so go find urself a new team to follow and annoy other fans
November 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Run D wasn’t bad to start the game but got worse after they couldn’t stop the pass O , Do Miami, Den, and this game rings a well? all those games we couldn’t stop their pass O , hence they were more committed to trying to stop the pass because our secondary really sucks , so we got burned on the ground in all these games
>> would be smart if OAK traded McFadden for a 2nd round pick and spent their 1st and 2nd picks on a PASS RUSHER DE/OLB and a CORNER, best available in any order.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
“Raider next year…” I hate this phone.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I was at the game right next to raiders’ bench today. So close I could see their facial expressions.
TB team got together in a group before start of game jumping up and down giving fiery speeches to one another. Raiders had no such display of passion before, during or after the game. Second half raiders all just showed up flat staggering to the bench and obviously got rolled in that quarter. What kinda ra ra speeches is DA giving this team to fire them up?
Fans were going nuts during the comeback but then started to turn on Palmer who was down on himslef. and After Palmers’ last back breaking INT the striking image for me was TP6 keeping on chewing sunflower seeds and laughing with a couple of teammates like nothing has happened. That level of callas ness bothers me.
$1000 and 9 hours later I’m still bitter about the crazy 2nd half down, up and finnally Crash!!!
November 4th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
raiders will go in and upset the Ravens next week. 30-24
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Yep and Taiwan Jones will be the MVP, Ravens won’t know what hit them
November 4th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
raiders will go in and upset the Ravens next week. 30-24
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True that, I’m actually starting to believe our D isn’t that good , now our O is starting to gel a little bit , our D is showing its true color , i don’t fault them either , playing with out 2 of ur starting CB’s would do that to u , you would get burned on the ground when your team is trying to stop the pass
November 4th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
DMac with the dreaded high ankle sprain…maybe he’ll get back for the finale.
TB ran right at TK and Slowlando…boo
November 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
mctroll 20 keep justifying the losses…its got nothing to do with al other than reggie is too stupid to tie his shoes…
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OH i guess Al Davis never lost games right ? and who’s justifying the losses, if your going to just come here and bash the new management , why are you even fan of this team, Al D is not here any more so go find urself a new team to follow and annoy other fans
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Just live people like that alone to their devises. Kind of like your grandparents. You know, the ones that talk to walls and crap their pants.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Realtruraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I have a problem with the whole defense, Wheeler got caught in the wash along with Burris and McClain, Dline played like garbage so did Huff Gio, can’t just blame one person when you give up 278 yards rushing
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Yep. As shltty as McClain is and as fed up with him as I am, this was the definition of a team loss. The players and the coaches. Mostly the players, maybe not Palmer at all tho. He’s such a friggin pro. My only regret for trading for him is that he has to be wasted on the the rest of this crap we call a team. Maybe he can survive another year or two until we can get some talent in there and make it all worth it for him and us. Right now tho, as good as Palmer is, I’d rather have the picks. We obviously need then desperately.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
2 games out of wild card and division with 8 to play. palmer is playing at a high level. hopefully it will eventually rub off on rest of offensive players. injuries to our rbs may be a blessing in disguise. no huddle may be only option.i feel raiders will upset ravens next week
November 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
mctroll20 just keep justifying why you are so willing to pull your pants down for reggie mccheese…while we lose another game.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Let Reggie prove something first. For now he carries his own water bucket.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Run D wasn’t bad to start the game but got worse after they couldn’t stop the pass O , Do Miami, Den, and this game rings a well? all those games we couldn’t stop their pass O , hence they were more committed to trying to stop the pass because our secondary really sucks , so we got burned on the ground in all these games
>> would be smart if OAK traded McFadden for a 2nd round pick and spent their 1st and 2nd picks on a PASS RUSHER DE/OLB and a CORNER, best available in any order.
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True that , just starting to believe he’s got enough of getting injured and getting hit hard every play , turn the guy into a receiver , i think he can be a good one , i don’t know how many running backs have converted into wr’s and done good job but if there is one guy who can do it , Mcfadden is the one who can make a pretty good wr
November 4th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
” TP6 keeping on chewing sunflower seeds and laughing with a couple of teammates like nothing has happened. That level of callas ness bothers me.”
He did that same sh:t last year and got caught on camera. Fool was literally dancing on the sidelines.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Realtruraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I have a problem with the whole defense, Wheeler got caught in the wash along with Burris and McClain, Dline played like garbage so did Huff Gio, can’t just blame one person when you give up 278 yards rushing
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Yep. As shltty as McClain is and as fed up with him as I am, this was the definition of a team loss. The players and the coaches. Mostly the players, maybe not Palmer at all tho. He’s such a friggin pro. My only regret for trading for him is that he has to be wasted on the the rest of this crap we call a team. Maybe he can survive another year or two until we can get some talent in there and make it all worth it for him and us. Right now tho, as good as Palmer is, I’d rather have the picks. We obviously need then desperately.
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I take back the “crap we call a team” line. Sorry. Got caught up in the negativity for a minute. I actually believe we r making progress in a lot of areas. But I still believe half of this team won’t be here next year. And I’m betting about 10 players make it to 2014.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Palmer is gutting it out, carrying the whole team. Palmer,myers,moore,DHB, nice little group there. would like to see reese get more touches. I’d have that guy playing slot,HB and FB
November 4th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
mctroll 20 just starting to believe this d is no good? this is reggie mccheeses defense or is it da defense? either way the results have been evident since preseason blind bat or slow?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Did TP have the ‘Skittles’ in his waistband? Ala Jamrarcus…
Rolando ran right by Martin n h 1st TD run, looked like his assignment…once again!
November 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
#114
Perhaps we should call RoMac “The Matador”
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I like it. Certainly looked the part on the 45 yard run. Ole!
November 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
LOL at fans in here ripping Palmer as the reason we lost the game. When was the last time we had a QB capable of throwing 400 yard games? If Jason Campbell or any of the other jokers who’ve gone through here over the last decade, except maybe Grads, we would’ve just gotten smoked by like 35 points and it wouldn’t have mattered.
When you throw 60+ passes in a game it’s unlikely you’ll have a clean INT column. The second one did come obviously at a VERY, VERY, VERY bad time. There seemed to be too much urgency to score on that drive. We had plenty of time and timeouts at that point. Still, if the D could’ve gotten a stop we could’ve had one more shot. But of course Tampa’s running game just completely demolished the Raiders today.
I mean, when you allow a rookie RB to rack up 251 yards rushing and score 4 TDs, it’s not likely you win the game.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
mctroll20 just keep justifying why you are so willing to pull your pants down for reggie mccheese…while we lose another game.
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I don’t know where you get the justifying part , who the f*ck is justifying the loss, we f8kkin lost,we couldn’t stop the pass and hence tried too hart to stop the pass and got burned on the ground, guys were late of the snap as usual, the effort also wasn’t there , i don’t know if they partied too hard last night , but they came out flat today,most of Palmer’s ints happened when he threw to the guy drafter by AL D, we sucked today , no denying that , but everyone knows this management is not going anywhere, if you’re here to just troll then gtfo here , your the only guy on the world who’s not on board with this management , did you have better GM in mind?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Uh oh, the team is 3-5 and the season is teetering. The raiders are desperately trying to fend off encroaching meltdown, but this pirate ship has far too many leaks.
The run defense showed it still cant be trusted, the pass coverage was worse. the o line was a turnstile, and palmer turned to jelly. Errant passes the sailed gently in the hands of defenders, and several sure picks that were dropped, littered his production. In the second half he completely came off the hinges and threw the game away.
Things are really going to get rough heading into baltimore if flacco rice and smith have a say so. Just our luck reed will be back as well, so im sure he will look to pick off palmer and renew his customary role of dominance of palmer.
This could get ugly
November 4th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
mctroll 20 just starting to believe this d is no good? this is reggie mccheeses defense or is it da defense? either way the results have been evident since preseason blind bat or slow?
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Just STFU. Every post you make makes you looks more ignorant. AL IS DEAD. And after the last 10 years, IM GLAD!!! Not that he’s dead of course. But that he has nothing to do w this team anymore. THANK GOD! Poor senile crypt keeper.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Palmer is gutting it out, carrying the whole team. Palmer,myers,moore,DHB, nice little group there. would like to see reese get more touches. I’d have that guy playing slot,HB and FB
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Yeah, though I’m still concerned about this offense when they are not running the no-huddle. The huddle up offense is real bad. And these slow starts have got to stop. I love the end-game theatrics and all, but I prefer victories and relaxing in the 4th.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Raiders can score on the Ravens. BAL isn’t the same D now, older and without Lewis. Flacco isn’t elite. Rice might have a big fantasy day but OAK can throw on them.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
mctroll 20, anyone but reggie mcdumbasz…i would take millen before any stupid fvckc whou would hire da…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
mctroll 20 just starting to believe this d is no good? this is reggie mccheeses defense or is it da defense? either way the results have been evident since preseason blind bat or slow?
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This is the D that carried over from last years D , when we couldn’t stop Detroit going 99 yards in less than a minute to win the game .. stop acting like AL D was the sh1t or something ,I Love AL D , he;s the reason why i became a fan of this team , but he left us with mess, had to cut couple of bad contracts who weren’t performing, had no money to sign good CB’s or sign a good pass rusher, had no money to sign good OL , Reg will do good job with money to spend , some of these guys need to go ,
November 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
The “greatest player in Redskin history” has a long ways to go to be Mark Rypien.
A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way
November 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Uh oh, the team is 3-5 and the season is teetering. The raiders are desperately trying to fend off encroaching meltdown, but this pirate ship has far too many leaks.
The run defense showed it still cant be trusted, the pass coverage was worse. the o line was a turnstile, and palmer turned to jelly. Errant passes the sailed gently in the hands of defenders, and several sure picks that were dropped, littered his production. In the second half he completely came off the hinges and threw the game away.
Things are really going to get rough heading into baltimore if flacco rice and smith have a say so. Just our luck reed will be back as well, so im sure he will look to pick off palmer and renew his customary role of dominance of palmer.
This could get ugly
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Please temper your enthusiasm.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
yeah im the one who sounds ignorant…glad someones dead…stupid idiot repeat it as you go to sleep…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Another day off is out of the question. Right? can the Raiders add another day?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Seymour and Kelly have played for years without any defensive ends who need to be double teamed and a middle linebacker who makes plays. They havent played to the contracts they signed and to me its their contracts that are the biggest issue. that money could be better spent on other needs. However, for some reason the defensive ends dont get ripped in here and our ends dont’s set the edge and are horrible in getting sacks. imo the DTs are not your sack makers or playmakers. the problem we have is the lack of a speed rusher and playmakers around kelly and seymour.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
17 yards on the ground doesn’t bode well for the ZBS. If we could just PLEASE go gap and power, our run game would improve. And when you have a balanced run/pass attack, good things happen. When you have a zero ground game, teams can sit back and shut down the pass game, especially when your playing catch up.
ZBS netted 17 yards today. Time to sh1t can it once and for all. knapp nutt huggers, you have to see this. knapp is hurting the offense with his pipe dream. Just tweak it a bit to fit a few personel strengths. We should have scored 45 points today. We had those fckers on the ropes, but we were to less than one dimensional. NEED A GROUND GAME. Won’t get one with the knapp version til we go gap.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Raiders need to let these players walk next season:
Seymour
Kelly
McClain – most definitely
Carlisle – whose been okay
We need to go forward, get younger, stronger, faster, better.
Players I would be okay if they did not return:
McFadden
Backup cornerbacks
Palmer, Leinart, Pryor- qb play has been adequate, I’m just not confident these will take us to the next step,
Brisiel and Smith- never would’ve thought I would miss Satele & Barnes!
November 4th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
mctroll 20, anyone but reggie mcdumbasz…i would take millen before any stupid fvckc whou would hire da…
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SHows ur stupidity , shows ur just here to troll , you would take MIllen who freaking drafted a WR like 5 years in a row in 1st round and neither of them panned out , you would take a guy who went 0-16 in one of his years over REG? ok i’m done feeding your trolling ass , go troll some where else , you just proved your here to instigate hate for this team , so f8k off , your officially a troll , LMAO @ i’ll take a guy who went 0-16 in one of his years over the current management
November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
thats the bs im saying mctroll…you keep justifying reggie mccheese….hold him to the effin standards…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
raiders need a M2M cover corner and a pass rusher. looks like the Al Davis defense DOES make sense in that regard. good consistent pass rush with a 4 man front beats any offense
November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Someone want to explain what happened with the personal foul on Seymour. From the stands, it didn’t even look like he touched him.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Huff should not start thinking that he is a starting CB…way too much talk last week, looked like poo today. Prolly have to move back to safety anyway.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Mistic you should just stick with ur Palmer hating , stop trying to make ur self look like a real fan by analyzing the whole game and every position group , just keep Hating palmer and keep worshipping black qb’s troll
November 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
colts(2 games), dolphins(1 game) and chargers(1game) are ahead of us for the wild card with 8 games to play. our season isnt over
November 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
thats how freakin stupid you are mctroll…im pointing how how bad mccheese is but youre too busy nuthugging reggie…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Uh oh, the team is 3-5 and the season is teetering. The raiders are desperately trying to fend off encroaching meltdown, but this pirate ship has far too many leaks.
The run defense showed it still cant be trusted, the pass coverage was worse. the o line was a turnstile, and palmer turned to jelly. Errant passes the sailed gently in the hands of defenders, and several sure picks that were dropped, littered his production. In the second half he completely came off the hinges and threw the game away.
Things are really going to get rough heading into baltimore if flacco rice and smith have a say so. Just our luck reed will be back as well, so im sure he will look to pick off palmer and renew his customary role of dominance of palmer.
This could get ugly
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Such prose and eloquent wording of words. What are you doing here on a Raider blog. Surely you belong in the classroom, college level, perhaps university even.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
thats the bs im saying mctroll…you keep justifying reggie mccheese….hold him to the effin standards…
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I keep justifying Reg , who’s in his 1st year and his hands were tied and couldn’t make as many moves, yet you would take a guy who went 0-16 ? you make so much sense
November 4th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I don’t remember reading Cowher, Gruden, Jimmy Johnson, or Parcells beating on Reggie’s door to be the Raiders’ head coach.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
manassa thats what im saying…press man with four dline rush…blitz and get burned…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
is willie smith our only option? he doesnt seem to be improving..
November 4th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Raiders need to let these players walk next season:
Seymour
Kelly
McClain – most definitely
Carlisle – whose been okay
We need to go forward, get younger, stronger, faster, better.
Players I would be okay if they did not return:
McFadden
Backup cornerbacks
Palmer, Leinart, Pryor- qb play has been adequate, I’m just not confident these will take us to the next step,
Brisiel and Smith- never would’ve thought I would miss Satele & Barnes!
>>> cut palmer? raiders would be losing 35-10 every game without palmer. what next step? with what QB? palmer is 32, this team will be his until his OLINE gets him injured, 2,3 years+. who else is out there? OLINE has been Bad. so many holes on this team and not enough draft picks are FAs.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
because they know reggie is trying to make a name for himself=ego…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
thats how freakin stupid you are mctroll…im pointing how how bad mccheese is but youre too busy nuthugging reggie…
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Yeah , and guess who drafter Mccheese in first place, too bad Reg’s hands are tied because Al Left him with some mess , can’t demote him and start any one else , because we don’t have any depth thanks to AL D, Still LMAO @ i will take a guy who went 0-16 in one of his years over Reg
November 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
mctroll20 you are too damnm slow…keep making excuses for mccheese…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
manassa thats what im saying…press man with four dline rush…blitz and get burned…
>> AL Davis always had it right, offensively and defensively. Game never passed him by, he just couldn’t get the right players. 4 man rush collapse pocket 7 men back in coverage, with good DEs it will stop ANY offense. 2007 pats, packers anybody. on offense, power running to set up VERTICAL passing. best system ever designed. this WC is overrated.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Someone want to explain what happened with the personal foul on Seymour? From the stands, it didn’t even look like he touched Freeman.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Gonna be another schitty week. It’s always that way after a loss. We really played like crap out there today. At least here was consistency – everybody was bad. Palmer was really off the first three quarters. Then he woke up a bit. The receivers had the dropsies all day. The defense was offensive in the worst way. For me, today was our season. Had we won, there was still hope. Now all we are playing for is draft position. Many on here don’t want to hear that but that’s my take and I’m sticking to it.
So now we have DMac hurt, Goodson hurt, Barnes still hurt, Bryant possibly unavailable for awhile, D-wow still playing hurt, Wiz 2.0 playing on one leg, our defensive backfield injured for the most part, Seymour & Curry with bad knees, McCheese with turf toe (maybe a blessing in disguise) and I’m sure 3 or 4 others in nicked status. It’s hard to be competitive when the team is damaged this badly.
The time for experimentation has arrived. Move Leinart to #3 QB and let’s see if TP6 has a future with us. He needs to get, at a minimum, some plays like the Niners use Kapernack.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Williams and Jackson’s TD catches were just really nice throws by Freeman.
That first long pass to Jackson was a blown coverage by Gio.
That long pass to Williams was damn near a pick by Huff. Still don’t see how he didn’t snatch that.
How about that pass that bounced off Branch’s helmet, lol.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
‘Blind’ Willie Smith is a Reggie Guy so he can keep on being mediocre…
TB gave our D a clinic on how to tackle, hope they were watching.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I had the pleasure of watching newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display of toughness, and amazing talent, slugging it out over a hard fought 4 quarters. The qbs had almost identical numbers through the first half, but cam newton was just too much for the depleted over matched redskin defense. The redskin line crumbled in the 4th quarter giving up sacks and making penalties. They made perfect passes, and flashed their once in a generation athleticism and it was quite the spectacle. A new day in the nfl for sure.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
You prove your a troll by your comments, “I would take Millen over Reg” , you seriously would take a guy who never had a winning year and led his team to only winless season a team ever had in NFL history , over a guy who came from a successful franchise??, keep talking and making your self look stupid , i don’t even need to respond to you anymore , you do a pretty good job insulting your self
November 4th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Hmm… what would the Raiders’ record be had we kept routt, Wimbley, boss, bush, and Campbell, Murphy; around 4-4 to 0-8.
We didn’t lose any probowlers, just out of whack contracts; we should excavated a few more.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
manassa its still a game played by athletes, get the right ones and you will win…he had the right idea…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
McF20 on constant troll patrol. Good job goin after the trolls, but honestly, Raider losses bring out a wide range of emotions. Not everyone agrees with the status quo. Me for example. We have seen bad bone headed OCs’ and DCs’ here before. Seasoned Raider fans can smell a rat. We’ve been thru this. We just don’t have a very good OC right now. That does not make us any less a fan just because we don’t blindly accept DAs’ hires. 17 yards on the ground today, that is just brutal for a OC whos had just as much time as any other OC in the league. Supposedly he’s been in the league a long time. He should be a good teacher and instructor. Until I am proven wrong, the ZBS and the play calling suck hind tit.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
20-13, wasn’t it?
Historic????
Dazzling????
November 4th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
mctroll20…obviously sarcasm is too complex for you…keep playing madden on the easy level…
November 4th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
JB Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Gonna be another schitty week. It’s always that way after a loss. We really played like crap out there today. At least here was consistency – everybody was bad. Palmer was really off the first three quarters. Then he woke up a bit. The receivers had the dropsies all day. The defense was offensive in the worst way. For me, today was our season. Had we won, there was still hope. Now all we are playing for is draft position. Many on here don’t want to hear that but that’s my take and I’m sticking to it.
So now we have DMac hurt, Goodson hurt, Barnes still hurt, Bryant possibly unavailable for awhile, D-wow still playing hurt, Wiz 2.0 playing on one leg, our defensive backfield injured for the most part, Seymour & Curry with bad knees, McCheese with turf toe (maybe a blessing in disguise) and I’m sure 3 or 4 others in nicked status. It’s hard to be competitive when the team is damaged this badly.
The time for experimentation has arrived. Move Leinart to #3 QB and let’s see if TP6 has a future with us. He needs to get, at a minimum, some plays like the Niners use Kapernack.
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Dude why would they get Leinart and PRyor involved , QB is not our problem , our problem exists in many other areas, but qb is not one of them , don’t let Mistic and others cloud ur judgement of our team
November 4th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
mctroll20…obviously sarcasm is too complex for you…keep playing madden on the easy level…
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Mctroll? , well get anybody to agree with you if I am a troll and i would never ever show up in here again , but if i get a list of 10 guys who think you’re a troll would you do the same ?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
That Wash/Car game was the worst offensive game of the day.
What a pathetic showing by each team offensively playing 2 of the worst defenses in the NFL.
Redskins fans didn’t think it was too “dazzling”. They booed their offense almost the whole 2nd half.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
if you want to try pryor at rb..fine ..but the 1 position on offense that is performing is our qb
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Palmer just needs to play better in the 2 minute offense to end games.
NO WAY we make a change at QB.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
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Yeah it was pretty amazing stuff eh, never goin to see a QB match up like that ever again, simply breath taking….
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Someone want to explain what happened with the personal foul on Seymour? From the stands, it didn’t even look like he touched Freeman.
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You were at the game. You shoulda taken it up with the refs. They had the best shot. Or maybe they were just trying to fill their quoata, via the directive to squelch the Raiders.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
You know I started to believe Coach Allen when he stated he would look into everything to improve this team. Instead of building the team mould to his image that he stated he lets Knapp supersede his authority and continue to ruin a proven offense. so in all intent and purpose the Raiders slow to a stand still until he get his act in order. way to run an organization!! No believing, prove it. Isn’t that what Harbaugh did? Isn’t that what most Raiders fans expected when they hire supposedly a better head coach and GM?
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
huff and branch also should be taken to task for their production failing woefully to approximate their production. To call them uneven would be too kind. we have waited years for these guys to lead the secondary yet the fai; year after year. As in the case of plamer being the best player in a really bad group doesnt count for much.
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Al_is_theraiders let’s get opinion from our fellow bloggers and let them tell who they really think is trolling , get 10 people to agree with you, i will never show up here again , and if i get 10 people , you would do the same , deal?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I think these players will be gone next year:
• Seymour – retired
• Kelly – traded
• DMac – gone to FA – possibly NY Giants (power blockers)
• Carlisle – retired
• McCheese – traded or outright cut
• Mitchell34 – traded or cut
• Lechler – gone to FA
November 4th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
mctroll20..what the? if i get ten guys…you in 7th grade or what? Keep making excuses fir reggie, fits you better…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Washington went 3 of 15 on 3rd downs, lol.
Dazzling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
2romes Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
You know I started to believe Coach Allen when he stated he would look into everything to improve this team. Instead of building the team mould to his image that he stated he lets Knapp supersede his authority and continue to ruin a proven offense. so in all intent and purpose the Raiders slow to a stand still until he get his act in order. way to run an organization!! No believing, prove it. Isn’t that what Harbaugh did? Isn’t that what most Raiders fans expected when they hire supposedly a better head coach and GM?
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Our D got exposed for what they were , they were def playing over their head for a few games, our secondary sucks , we got no pass rushers, i still believe our Run D is not that bad but it starts s*cking when we try to do too much to stop the pass
November 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Huff played well at cb until today. but Jackson is a tough match up for anyone. he s a legit number 1 WR..something we have seen here since Randy Moss- 8 years ago
November 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I’m not saying we should cut palmer or pryor for that matter; I’m just not sure he will take us to a super bowl.
Raiders will need to draft a qb with our third or fourth round pick.
I truly had hoped R. Wilson would’ve lasted to our 3rd round compensatory pick.
He didn’t, time to look forward.
Raiders could get a 2nd for palmer, not saying we should do it, unless their is a better option.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Yep it may be getting close to tp6 time. When we get to the last quarter of the season and are clearly floundering with palmer, pull the plug on the whoopti and roll with Pryor
November 4th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
mctroll20..what the? if i get ten guys…you in 7th grade or what? Keep making excuses fir reggie, fits you better…
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well i already knew all that, you would back down, so why r u even scared, you call me a troll but you’re the only 1 who say that, while every single Raider fan thinks you and Mistic are trolls
November 4th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Actually the historic game was between Luck and Tannehill, with Luck breaking an NFL rookie record for passing yards, and they two combined for the most passing yards by two rookies in one game.
That was actually “historic”.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
DA has been blindly loyal to Knapp and now has to turn to Reece who he ignored for 7 games cause he held out…not an impressive management technique.
Thought a ‘Defensive’ coach would have eliminated performances like today’s.
Maybe DA and ‘his’ staff need to work some OT to figure this s h I t out…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
JB, 206; I agree
November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I’m not saying we should cut palmer or pryor for that matter; I’m just not sure he will take us to a super bowl.
Raiders will need to draft a qb with our third or fourth round pick.
I truly had hoped R. Wilson would’ve lasted to our 3rd round compensatory pick.
He didn’t, time to look forward.
Raiders could get a 2nd for palmer, not saying we should do it, unless their is a better option.
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That would mean a couple more years of rebuilding , Palmer still got 2-3 good years left in him and i think we can fill some holes next year , he can take us to the playoffs, but if you’re just willing to get a new qb just for the sake of going into a new era then can’t change ur opinion
November 4th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
It might be a blessing to have McFadden hurt. If he wasn’t they’d keep plugging him 20 times for 45 yards with the same scheme.
Maybe one of our backups can actually fit better with the scheme. Try to get a ground game going that keeps defenes honest. I mean honestly, how can such a good running team turn so horrible so fast – the coaches really would have to screw things around.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
huff and branch also should be taken to task for their production failing woefully to approximate their production. To call them uneven would be too kind. we have waited years for these guys to lead the secondary yet the fai; year after year. As in the case of plamer being the best player in a really bad group doesnt count for much.
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Yeah they both should of had picks today, Not sure how Huff didn’t pick that one off, went right through his hands into Williams for a huge gain, then Branch had a ball hit the top of his helmet, he was looking right at the damn ball and put his hands up to catch it and it bounces off his helmet? How the fk does that even happen? SMDH, this loss is on everyone, a team loss
November 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
mctroll20…believe what you want…i hope the raiders dont lose again but when they do i can count on you coming up with the same lame reggie excuses….
November 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Raiders should hire Norv Turner as OC. he runs the old Air Coryell offense in SD and would have This offense moving. get back to the vertical offense at least
November 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Next two games must wins.
We need to be 5-5 or 6-6 to make a playoff run.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We got a lot of work to do ,so many things to fix, Need legit Wr’s , legit RT , Pass rushers , better secondary , better line backers, i don’t think Palmer is the problem he is part of the solution, D was just teasing with us , we totally suck on D
November 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Can Rolando go to jail next week?
Do we have to pay him if he gets convicted?
The way he misses tackles, I think he was actually TRYING to shoot that kid point blank,
And MISSED…not really surprising considering his on field accuracy.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
da’s zone defense…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I had the pleasure of watching newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display of toughness, and amazing talent, slugging it out over a hard fought 4 quarters. The qbs had almost identical numbers through the first half, but cam newton was just too much for the depleted over matched redskin defense. The redskin line crumbled in the 4th quarter giving up sacks and making penalties. They made perfect passes, and flashed their once in a generation athleticism and it was quite the spectacle. A new day in the nfl for sure.
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Awe inspiring.
Brilliant manifestations of determination and greatness on display for all the world to witness. A grand spectacle to be sure, but only overshadowed by human frailty and dominence of the victor over the saddened loser. A tale of two cities if you will, euphoria to the dominant and sorrow given to the lesser. If only the world could stand next to such power, what a most bloved better place this could be.
(just seeing if I have any eloquence in me)
November 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Al gtfo here , we don’t ur opinion on here , you make no sense , your stupid as rocks , I’ll enjoy the comment u made that you would have taken Millen over Reg , that guy the only guy who ever went winless in a season
November 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mistic, ur a f@ggit loser punk chump. Cp3 is the man, ya I’m mad he threw those picks, but he is the reason we came back. Reese finally got used, and when he does good things happen. If palmer had a running game he would beat freeman every day of the week. Moore, Streeter. Stop dropping the dam rock, I’m getting tired of seeing that crap. Dhbeast is the man, great one hander, and to think he still has haters lol. And also mistic, get the hell out of here you blog troll fake raider fan.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I’m not saying we should cut palmer or pryor for that matter; I’m just not sure he will take us to a super bowl.
Raiders will need to draft a qb with our third or fourth round pick.
I truly had hoped R. Wilson would’ve lasted to our 3rd round compensatory pick.
He didn’t, time to look forward.
Raiders could get a 2nd for palmer, not saying we should do it, unless their is a better option.
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That would mean a couple more years of rebuilding , Palmer still got 2-3 good years left in him and i think we can fill some holes next year , he can take us to the playoffs, but if you’re just willing to get a new qb just for the sake of going into a new era then can’t change ur opinion
>>> Qbs play into their late 30s, Palmer is as good as he’s ever been and shows more fight than anybody else on that team. why draft a Qb in 3rd or 4th? Raiders will wait until palmer collapses and they finish with a top 10 pick and THEN they’ll get a QB. drafting one in the 4th round is pointless IMO.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We got a lot of work to do ,so many things to fix, Need legit Wr’s , legit RT , Pass rushers , better secondary , better line backers, i don’t think Palmer is the problem he is part of the solution, D was just teasing with us , we totally suck on D
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We got a sh1t pot of work to do. So many fck-ups to fix you can’t even count’em.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We got a lot of work to do ,so many things to fix, Need legit Wr’s , legit RT , Pass rushers , better secondary , better line backers, i don’t think Palmer is the problem he is part of the solution, D was just teasing with us , we totally suck on D
>>> anybody else think we’re 0-7 with leinart or pryor?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
thats how freakin stupid you are mctroll…im pointing how how bad mccheese is but youre too busy nuthugging reggie…
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Yeah , and guess who drafter Mccheese in first place, too bad Reg’s hands are tied because Al Left him with some mess , can’t demote him and start any one else , because we don’t have any depth thanks to AL D, Still LMAO @ i will take a guy who went 0-16 in one of his years over Reg
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The problem isn’t that Al Davis’ draft picks were bad. The problem is that they were drafted to fit a specific scheme and they’re trying to throw in TOTALLY DIFFERENT schemes. They had a certain strength and we’re trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and of course they look like a retard eating chicken wings while having an epeleptic fit. But that’s on the coaching staff and not looking at the players you have and making the best use of them.
Fine, eventually you want to transition to a different scheme, and bring in new players. But, we haven’t done that, and we looked better last year than this year which I call regression – i.e. WRONG DIRECTION.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
ok yeah mctroll20 i will do that…what a freakin moron…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We got a lot of work to do ,so many things to fix, Need legit Wr’s , legit RT , Pass rushers , better secondary , better line backers, i don’t think Palmer is the problem he is part of the solution, D was just teasing with us , we totally suck on D
>>> anybody else think we’re 0-7 with leinart or pryor?
>> *0-8. Damn seasons halfway over already
November 4th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We got a lot of work to do ,so many things to fix, Need legit Wr’s , legit RT , Pass rushers , better secondary , better line backers, i don’t think Palmer is the problem he is part of the solution, D was just teasing with us , we totally suck on D
>>> anybody else think we’re 0-7 with leinart or pryor?
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Yeah we would be 0-8 at this point with anybody but Palmer
November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
JFB,
To be fair, your boy Dalton SUCKS too.
Punk muhfuhhgga had a 20-17 lead at home against the horseheads and effed it off.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
mctroll20 is too dumb to see that…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
If Leinart goes in for an injured CP,
We won’t have to wait long to see TP or Shane, cause Leinart won’t last long…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Offense defense coaching, definitely a team loss, played solid at times, almost came from behind, just too many mistakes: key penalty, out of sync qb/wr, big plays giving up by D,
I expect major improvement next season.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
ok yeah mctroll20 i will do that…what a freakin moron…
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Ofcourse if you had any amount of integrity and self respect you would have never even came here , so it’s just stupid for asking a troll to get out , i guess ignoring you is the better option , i’m pretty sure every one has ignored you already so good luck with ur trolling
November 4th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
yeah mctroll20 you do that…season is half way over already…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
newt-dumb = LOSER — RG 1/3 = LOSER — dog-killer = LOSER — freeman = .500 — wilson = one over .500 ….but note the 100% baboons are LOSERS…the other 2 are HALF WHITE!
November 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
In the end play calling was stupid , we had the chance to take this game , Palmer had already attempted 60 passes and you knew the OL was going to eventually start crumble , why call go route? the best call at that time would have been a screen or a draw , what a pathetic call that was to ask Palmer to attempt his 61st pass trying to connect with Streater 30-40 yards with no protection
November 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
only two more years untill we win again right?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
J Hill Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
JFB,
To be fair, your boy Dalton SUCKS too.
Punk muhfuhhgga had a 20-17 lead at home against the horseheads and effed it off.
>> andrew Luck! going to take the Colts to the playoffs in his first years. Colts were 2-14 last year and hopeless. Luck has done a lot with that team.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
J Hill Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
JFB,
To be fair, your boy Dalton SUCKS too.
Punk muhfuhhgga had a 20-17 lead at home against the horseheads and effed it off.
>> andrew Luck! going to take the Colts to the playoffs in his first years. Colts were 2-14 last year and hopeless. Luck has done a lot with that team.
>> and yeah they let the broncos win it.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
fake punt with 13 yards to go genius…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
We should have won , we got too pass happy and with deep strikes, you knew Palmer was eventually going to get hit on one of the pass plays and he was tired too, we could have easily won with screens and dump offs and rb draws
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
As a 35 year fan of the Raiders, I cannot take this anymore. Arrrrrgh. I feel like I am watching the UFL instead of NFL. We need to hang in and wait out the storm and be loyal to Reggie and Dennis, but I am telling you, after 10 years of futility, it’s getting REAL old.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We have maybe 3 players who fall into the top 50% of players in their position
Palmer, Jano, and Lechler
Reece and Myers are close
Bottom line- we have serious problems at WR, RB, OL, DL, MLB, Secondary. Think of what Palmer has to deal with. A running game averaging 3yds per carry. An OL playing horrible. Young WRS who dont run good routes ,struggle reading defenses and rarely generate separation especially in red zone. Palmer is the only reason we are competitive in games
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Another thought…trade McFadden. He’s not what we thougth he was.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
This whole idea of us having the best RB in the game, therefore we need to run it, run it, run it is thankfully out the window.
It has been clear to some of us that McFadden has lost a half step. Goodson is CLEARLY faster and has more quicks juke than McFadden.
Look at Martin. That’s how McFadden USED to look.
We are a pass first team now.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Raiders number one need.
Defensive End pass rusher.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Palmer needs to design a few very vertical plays for DHB and his break away speed.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
nycraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We have maybe 3 players who fall into the top 50% of players in their position
Palmer, Jano, and Lechler
Reece and Myers are close
Bottom line- we have serious problems at WR, RB, OL, DL, MLB, Secondary. Think of what Palmer has to deal with. A running game averaging 3yds per carry. An OL playing horrible. Young WRS who dont run good routes ,struggle reading defenses and rarely generate separation especially in red zone. Palmer is the only reason we are competitive in games
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So true man , we’re freaking lying to us , if we think this team is anywhere near playoff type of team , we got long ways to go , and hopefully more of Al D contracts come off so we can sign good players and draft good players
November 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
fake punt with 13 yards to go genius…
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LOL, yeah and the best part about it was the Bucs had there base Defense on the field, really surprised them eh
November 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
And a young, smart, talented quarterback who we can build around.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Let Mcfadden go or turn him into a wide receiver( he will instantly be our best wide receiver) , it’s clear as day the guy is not over his injuries and not the same player , we all can see the guy is shy from contact now
November 4th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Andrew luck was outstanding, and his counter part also played well. it looks as if ponder and gebbert are the only 2 of the 2nd and 1st year starters that wont be at least decent starters.
so much for that nonsense about the nfl starving for good qbs, its littered with them.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
J Hill Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
This whole idea of us having the best RB in the game, therefore we need to run it, run it, run it is thankfully out the window.
It has been clear to some of us that McFadden has lost a half step. Goodson is CLEARLY faster and has more quicks juke than McFadden.
Look at Martin. That’s how McFadden USED to look.
We are a pass first team now.
>> RBs aren’t as important anymore. dime a dozen. even a team like the Vikings would be no worse off if they replaced AP with a average RB. AP hasn’t led them anywhere. would probably open up the offense up. its all about the QB and and OLINE.Goodson is good enough
November 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
If we cold get 3 yards a run every time I’d take it…too many negative runs in this offense.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
And a young, smart, talented quarterback who we can build around.
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We should only do that if we think rest of our team s9cks and we should just rebuild at every position but if we’re just couple of good players away then keep Palmer
November 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
…poor Carson Palmer how is the guy suppose to win when he has a bunch of dumb baboon WR’s that can’t read a defense. [ throw to Meyers every down Carson he's the only SMART receiver you got!]…..AND an interior defense also full of lazy dumb baboons [seymour/kelly/mcclain]…once you PAY the baboons they QUIT WORKING…its in their DNA [called TNB]….i pity you Carson!!!!!….because you have to shower with these smelly beasts too!!!
November 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
oh thats right because goodson tore it up running…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
McFadden20- I like it.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
And Palmer isn’t THAT old, 1 year older than ELI manning and a year YOUNGER than Brees and younger than Brady. age isn’t an issue, its that crap OLINE.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
If we cold get 3 yards a run every time I’d take it…too many negative runs in this offense.
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knapp and his ZBS perhaps?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
nycraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We have maybe 3 players who fall into the top 50% of players in their position
Palmer, Jano, and Lechler
Reece and Myers are close
Bottom line- we have serious problems at WR, RB, OL, DL, MLB, Secondary. Think of what Palmer has to deal with. A running game averaging 3yds per carry. An OL playing horrible. Young WRS who dont run good routes ,struggle reading defenses and rarely generate separation especially in red zone. Palmer is the only reason we are competitive in games
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So true man , we’re freaking lying to us , if we think this team is anywhere near playoff type of team , we got long ways to go , and hopefully more of Al D contracts come off so we can sign good players and draft good players
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whats amazing is that the colts, chargers, and dolphins are the 3 teams ahead of us for the last wild card. i doubt we can catch the broncos but those teams are no locks to be 500, so even with the lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball, we have a chance. if we somehow make the wild card, palmer should be a candidate for MVP with the surrounding cast around him.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
oh thats right because goodson tore it up running…
>> no worse than the 4th overall pick. thats reality
November 4th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
All of you blasting Taiwan’s run attempt, need to watch the play again, and guess who missed his block n the LB and actually blocked him into the defender…Willie Smith.
Either a poor play or poor execution, either way, crappy play
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
November 4th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
J Hill Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:15 .
>> andrew Luck! going to take the Colts to the playoffs in his first years. Colts were 2-14 last year and hopeless. Luck has done a lot with that team. ======= That’s something NO baboon QB WILL EVER DO!
November 4th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
>> Moore can burn though. need to see what Ford can do later. Ford ,Moore DHB, so much speed, 1 of these guys HAS to a #1 pro bowl WR.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
F8ck trying to force feed Mcfadden , his heart is not even in it , try our luck with Goodson and Taiwan , atleast they look like they want to be there, I think Mcfadden will probably just fake his injury for the rest of the year, the guy is done carrying the rock , his future is at WR if he can take running up and down the field all game long
November 4th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
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last yr 60 + WRs had more tds than dhb, 50+ had more tds than moore. WR is a position that needs to be addressed. We need a big tall route runner who can create separation
November 4th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
just know that another qb had a 100+ rating against this zone defense….
November 4th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
>> Moore can burn though. need to see what Ford can do later. Ford ,Moore DHB, so much speed, 1 of these guys HAS to a #1 pro bowl WR.
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Yeah they can all burn , but what’s so good about them when they can only do couple of good routes, Moore freaking cost 2 int by Palmer , i rather have a lesser talented Wr, who runs the right routes and bails his qb out , then a home run hitter , who only runs couple of routes and gets his qb picked every game
November 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Why is the end zone such an unfamiliar place to this team? It’s like kryptonite to Superman. There’s an invisible force shield keeping us out it seems. (Today was better) But overall,the Raiders need to feel like “were going in” instead of: “Jano will score for us if don’t make it.”
November 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
nycraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
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last yr 60 + WRs had more tds than dhb, 50+ had more tds than moore. WR is a position that needs to be addressed. We need a big tall route runner who can create separation
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Exactly , Moore can be a slot receiver , and can run couple of deep routes when we need to strike it deep but i would rather have a real WR who can run all kinda routes and never f8kk up on the field which causes the QB to throw an INT
November 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
>> Moore can burn though. need to see what Ford can do later. Ford ,Moore DHB, so much speed, 1 of these guys HAS to a #1 pro bowl WR.
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Yeah they can all burn , but what’s so good about them when they can only do couple of good routes, Moore freaking cost 2 int by Palmer , i rather have a lesser talented Wr, who runs the right routes and bails his qb out , then a home run hitter , who only runs couple of routes and gets his qb picked every game
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speed kills except for when the wr doesnt run his route or know how to compete for a catch. dmoore is the only wr with potential but even he has a long way to go
November 4th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Yeah trade DMC so he can ball the fk out somewhere else, we are wastin him here, he is only 25 so he has plenty of time to show what he has flashed here the last 2 years when he was used right and healthy. This scheme has made him an after thought which is crazy considering he was our offense the last couple years. Im sure the Pats or GB or ATL or another well coached SB caliber team would get production out of a player like DMC
November 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Why is the end zone such an unfamiliar place to this team? It’s like kryptonite to Superman. There’s an invisible force shield keeping us out it seems. (Today was better) But overall,the Raiders need to feel like “were going in” instead of: “Jano will score for us if don’t make it.”
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Palmer threw it pretty good to streater , i don’t get why he’s trying to create seperation instead of keep on running, he would have gotten that pass easily , need to cut RT SMITH for costing us 7 points with that hold
November 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
OVERCOME THE BLUES BLOG BRAHS AND GOOBS
When I suffer a devastating loss of one of my many favorite teams in all sports, I just call in my posse. They fix me a strong drink, usually a not to salty but sweet marg, and they bring me a big plate of cheese/chili fries.
Then I get down to business with a weiner wax and a pube style, then some twenty minute or so hand jivin. Follow that with a firm deuce at your favorite toilet, capture it on video, then a large round of applause from my posse, and I’m good to go.
Now bring on dem Ravens.
MO SCHIZZLE MAKES FO MO BIZZLE, WORD.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
nycraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Qb’s look only as good as their support system makes em look like , our receivers only know 1 route , which is go route or fade route what ever you want to call them , our FB is our best route runner along with TE myers , receivers s*ck so bad , Moore would be a slot receiver with any other team
>> Moore can burn though. need to see what Ford can do later. Ford ,Moore DHB, so much speed, 1 of these guys HAS to a #1 pro bowl WR.
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Yeah they can all burn , but what’s so good about them when they can only do couple of good routes, Moore freaking cost 2 int by Palmer , i rather have a lesser talented Wr, who runs the right routes and bails his qb out , then a home run hitter , who only runs couple of routes and gets his qb picked every game
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speed kills except for when the wr doesnt run his route or know how to compete for a catch. dmoore is the only wr with potential but even he has a long way to go
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Speed can only take you so far , but when you can’t run hot routes , when you know ur qb is going to be under pressure , then you’re neither a # 1 WR, neither # 2
November 4th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
realtruraider Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Yeah trade DMC so he can ball the fk out somewhere else, we are wastin him here, he is only 25 so he has plenty of time to show what he has flashed here the last 2 years when he was used right and healthy. This scheme has made him an after thought which is crazy considering he was our offense the last couple years. Im sure the Pats or GB or ATL or another well coached SB caliber team would get production out of a player like DMC
>> Mcfadden would tear it up in Green bay. i could see him getting traded there.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Why is the end zone such an unfamiliar place to this team? It’s like kryptonite to Superman. There’s an invisible force shield keeping us out it seems. (Today was better) But overall,the Raiders need to feel like “were going in” instead of: “Jano will score for us if don’t make it.”
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ZBS perhaps?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Perhaps….
November 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Super Dawg Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
OVERCOME THE BLUES BLOG BRAHS AND GOOBS
When I suffer a devastating loss of one of my many favorite teams in all sports, I just call in my posse. They fix me a strong drink, usually a not to salty but sweet marg, and they bring me a big plate of cheese/chili fries.
Then I get down to business with a weiner wax and a pube style, then some twenty minute or so hand jivin. Follow that with a firm deuce at your favorite toilet, capture it on video, then a large round of applause from my posse, and I’m good to go.
Now bring on dem Ravens.
MO SCHIZZLE MAKES FO MO BIZZLE, WORD.
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WHo f8kin cares, name me 1 guy who cares about ur bs
November 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Any news on our porcelain running back’s ankle?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Super Dawg – Head over to http://www.scumbag.com, they are begging to hear your story dude.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Yeah trade DMC so he can ball the fk out somewhere else, we are wastin him here, he is only 25 so he has plenty of time to show what he has flashed here the last 2 years when he was used right and healthy. This scheme has made him an after thought which is crazy considering he was our offense the last couple years. Im sure the Pats or GB or ATL or another well coached SB caliber team would get production out of a player like DMC
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No , i think we should convert him to WR, He would instantly be our best WR and will have less injuries at the position and draft a new RB next year, Mcfadden would love to become a WR , everyone can see that he don’t want to take any licks anymore
November 4th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Damn, that one hurt, didn’t it? Still like my gunslinger, but damn! One guy, 251 yards? On the fckn ground? For THREE TD’S? Damn.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Tampa knew Palmer was going to pass because we didn’t have a choice; how many reps at practice do you think Reece & Jones had in practice anyway.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Mcfadden and McClain for Clay Matthews . there’s our pass rusher
November 4th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Any news on our porcelain running back’s ankle?
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I thought it was his leg. What ever it was, standard coach double speak says no report til tomorrow.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Yeah trade DMC so he can ball the fk out somewhere else, we are wastin him here, he is only 25 so he has plenty of time to show what he has flashed here the last 2 years when he was used right and healthy. This scheme has made him an after thought which is crazy considering he was our offense the last couple years. Im sure the Pats or GB or ATL or another well coached SB caliber team would get production out of a player like DMC
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No , i think we should convert him to WR, He would instantly be our best WR and will have less injuries at the position and draft a new RB next year, Mcfadden would love to become a WR , everyone can see that he don’t want to take any licks anymore
>> how often do big name RBs convert to full time WRs?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I heard ankle and the replay looks like it is at least a good ankle sprain. Will probably turn into cancer- out for the year…
November 4th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Tampa knew Palmer was going to pass because we didn’t have a choice; how many reps at practice do you think Reece & Jones had in practice anyway.
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Good to see DA was more prepared and ‘ready for anything’.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
– Running back Darren McFadden rushed for 17 yards on seven carries before leaving the game with a right ankle injury.
“I’m not really sure the extent of it,” Allen said. “The X-rays were negative but, obviously. we’ll have to take a look at it and see where he’s at.”
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Oldtown, you’re right.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Convert Jones to cb.
Do not get into a bidding war over any of our free agents.
Give Wheeler an extension.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
manassamauler Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Yeah trade DMC so he can ball the fk out somewhere else, we are wastin him here, he is only 25 so he has plenty of time to show what he has flashed here the last 2 years when he was used right and healthy. This scheme has made him an after thought which is crazy considering he was our offense the last couple years. Im sure the Pats or GB or ATL or another well coached SB caliber team would get production out of a player like DMC
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No , i think we should convert him to WR, He would instantly be our best WR and will have less injuries at the position and draft a new RB next year, Mcfadden would love to become a WR , everyone can see that he don’t want to take any licks anymore
>> how often do big name RBs convert to full time WRs?
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I don’t really care how often , but he don’t want to get hit anymore , def is IR prone, he got better receiving skills then MOORE AND DHB combined, plus got the frame for a WR , so i think he can do it
November 4th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
McFadden 20 says:
No , i think we should convert him to WR, He would instantly be our best WR and will have less injuries at the position and draft a new RB next year, Mcfadden would love to become a WR , everyone can see that he don’t want to take any licks anymore
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You might be on to something, but if he falls down, he’ll get hurt.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I’m out , need 1 more off-season with Reg, Keep the faith
November 4th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Get Burris and Wheeler for the long haul. They are gamers man.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
McFadden 20 says:
No , i think we should convert him to WR, He would instantly be our best WR and will have less injuries at the position and draft a new RB next year, Mcfadden would love to become a WR , everyone can see that he don’t want to take any licks anymore
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You might be on to something, but if he falls down, he’ll get hurt.
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Well still will have less chances of injury at that position than RB
November 4th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Raider fans are the best- see you next week.
November 4th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Get Burris and Wheeler for the long haul. They are gamers man.
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Agree, need a new MLB though , but next year we should work on Pass Rush , Secondary and Receivers
November 4th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Oldtown Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Raider fans are the best- see you next week.
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Hopefully after a happy ending on sunday, lol , Go RAIDERS
November 4th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Some that want The Big Reggie,Allen and knapp to get it together but they can’t because the players don’t fit the scheme, tough love. Mark Davis should have thought about the player don’t fit the scheme before he flushed everything that was going for the Raiders down the toilet. Guess what this is a BIG BOYS GAME!!! there is no waiting for the Raiders GM, Coach and players to fit the scheme. Is it the BUCS head coach first year?
November 4th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Mcfadden isn’t a full time anything. he can get about 10 touches a game in certain spots. can’t survive as a 20 + carry RB. I’d use him on punt returns, as a WR and as a change of pace back to spell Goodson or whoever, or trade him. scheme is irrelevant with McFadden, he can’t stay on the field
November 4th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Norv Turner has been announced as the raiders new offensive coordinator
November 4th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Mcfadden for WR , get it done .. We will win next week , 27-20
November 4th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Ok i’m seriously out now , Raiders talk always keep me in here but will talk with you guys tomorrow , we will get big company from trolls as well , since we just lost .. GO RAIDERS
November 4th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Wasn’t too long ago that a loss didn’t hurt much. Not because we didn’t want to win, but kinda expected to lose. No more is that the case. When you think you can win and more importantly, think you should, losses come hard. I want to win every time we take the field but care more about the losses now than I have in a while.. Is this a good thing?
November 4th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
298; yep
November 4th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Knapp should be fired for the play calls on the last POSSESION…
Of ever there was a time for a draw, reverse, anything but another pass…would have fealt good to be 500 at the half way mark, now it seems like a real long shot.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/4/3601938/carson-palmer-showing-his-gunslinger-mentality
November 4th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Is mistics right hand dry yet?
November 4th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Damn it! I said I wouldn’t do that.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
In the end play calling was stupid , we had the chance to take this game , Palmer had already attempted 60 passes and you knew the OL was going to eventually start crumble , why call go route? the best call at that time would have been a screen or a draw , what a pathetic call that was to ask Palmer to attempt his 61st pass trying to connect with Streater 30-40 yards with no protection
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Agreed. Everyone in stadium knew Palmer was gonna pass with no healthy RBs left. With that said why not call for a high % screen pass to get a few extra yards instead of throwing to the middle of the field to an unrated player who’s got 2 DBs hanging on him? I put the bad play calling on our OC. But cp3 poorly executed that horrible call. After 10 years in NFL at end of a tight game with lots of time and 3 time outs he should know better not to throw that ball and not force it and try to run with the ball. He seems to have a gunslinger mentality all the time pull the trigger and ask the question later.
my biggest knock on cp3 is that he does not let his brain quickly process the situation and do risk reward calculation in a good way to run or throw the ball away in some situations. Come on man how many times do you wanna apologize for losing the game? Yeah the defense was disgusting BUT they gave cp3 the ball with 2:40 and three time outs to drive down field to win or tie and instead he turned it over putting that tired defense right back on the field.
I was right behind him when fans started booing him and saying “it’s not your fault Carson. But it is your fault!” Or “we’re so happy for the trade Carson.” And the at end he went into the tunnel with his helmet on. Almost everyone else had their helmets off. That was telling sign he didn’t want to face the fans. Understandably so since he let them down today.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Mr Green is still healthy, aren’t you? I’m going down shortly and want to go out on a positive note and hope for the same for you all.8)
November 4th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
UCLA Raiders Says: Put an F in front of your name, troll.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Put yourself in DMac’s head. Next year he can go wherever he chooses. He WON’T go to a ZBS schemed team. He’s only got so many years left and he can’t afford to waste them in Oakland. Besides, RM won’t pay the $’s that other teams will offer. I actually don’t think RM thinks all that much about DMac’s value. He might work a trade with the Packers but I think it’s too late for that. I think RM tells DMac thanks for your service & good luck wherever you end up. RM has too any other unfilled positions to be concerned about. He also has to cut ties with McCheese, Kelly, Lechler & talk Seymour & Carlisle into retirement. The good thing is a ton of $’s will be freed up and we should be seeing a fair amount of FA’s coming in. There are just more holes than we have draft choices so FA is how you deal with that. RM will be on the hot seat for next year. He will have to show us something in order to maintain credibility. we won’t be seeing playoffs this year but maybe next year with an infusion of new talent.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Goal, 8-8 and good night.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Damn it! I said I wouldn’t do that.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
and Dmac is getting old. Next August he’ll be 25 years old!!
November 4th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
The defense should absolutely be ahsamed of themselves.
That was abhorrent; allowing some rookie to make all those long runs and almost get the nfl record.
I couldn’t care less that the penalties are down.
That was ridiculous. DA is culpable. No consistency. One week they can tackle the next week they can’t.
Burris flat out sucked today. This defense played as if they didn’t want to risk the discomfort of tackling someone…like it wasn’t worth it to them.
What was McClain doing out there so often? I thought they “adjusted” that.
I am sooooo sick of this piece of crap effort on defense…
Blow it all up.
Just when u think they are playing ‘decent’ you get a game like today and u realize they still suck….BAD.
I’m not impressed with our “defensive minded” HC.
No effort. Letting that rookie out of Boise make you look like inept fools.
Awful.
DA said the goal is to get better each week.
EPIC FAIL.
It’s a freaking embarrassment.
And glad our “defensive minded” HC is so proficient at developing a pass rush.
THERE IS NONE…PERIOD.
What a joke.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
I know I said I was gonna jam until a couple weeks from now…..but I gotta show the BLOGOsPHERE this complete and total lack of DEFENSIVE COACHING on this 45 yard TD run by Martin….
I have a Question for our Defensive Coordinator Mr. 3 Man Rush Jason Tarver?
What do you call the Defensive Front on this play?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000090150/Martin-45-yard-TD-rumble
Surely there is a name for the front where we leave over 10 feet of space unaccounted for on the Line of Scrimmage?
Common Coach, I know you’re here…..what do you call it?
Guess what folks….all you will hear from the staff regarding our play was EXECUTION and lack of TACKLING….they don’t seem to understand that it actually matters where they tell the players to line up!
BAZINGA!
November 4th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I stand corrected, DMac’s not a FA until 2014. That means RM can trade him next year. And, I think he will. Green Bay needs a RB and we need WR’s. That could be a win-win deal for both teams.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
JB Says: Green Bay needs a RB and we need WR’s.
M. Reece 8 95 1 26
D. Heyward-Bey 5 74 0 46
D. Moore 4 66 0 26
B. Myers 8 59 2 13
R. Streater 4 54 1 25T
M. Goodson 6 52 0 12
R. Gordon 1 8 0 8
D. Hagan 1 6 0 6
T. Jones 1 4 0 4
D. McFadden 2 0 0 2
November 4th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
I’d love to click on that link backstage but i don’t have the 20 mins. it would take to load from that slow website.
I understand we’re supposed to be “patient” as we “re-build” or whatever but we were told this team would improve every week.
What i see is a yo-yo every week. NO CONSISTENCY.
I foolishly believed the days when rookie rb’s weren’t gashing us for multiple, long, back breaking runs.
There’s a reason Belichik passed on Andre Carter….he sucks…period.
Pass rush? Ha. What a freaking joke.
Overpaid hack Tyvon Branch has a sure int. doink off his head cuz he doesn’t know where the ball is and Freeman has time to hike the ball, take out a dvd player, pop in all six Star Wars movies and THEN decide to throw the ball.
Horrible. Inexcusable coaching AND playing.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
We just need the ‘O’ and the ‘D’ To play well on the same frickin’ day.
November 4th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Our WR’s today were really terrible. They looked like what they are – young & inexperienced. To make matters worse everybody had the dropsies. We need someone to teach them how to run a route. That’s seems to be one of there main problems – they are not where hey are supposed to be when the ball gets there. They should spend the rest of the year on perfecting how to run a route ala Jerry Rice or Fred Biletnikoff style.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
palmer better go back to the dink and dunk close to the vest approach. When knapp lets palmer go no huddle and throw it all over the field it is a recipe for turn overs. Just as he struggled in the vertical offense last season.
Maybe give him half the field to read, or focus more on quick passes and short passing.
Palmer must not be exposed by allowing him to wing it.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Just wanted to be 4and4 today and maybe have the fckn’ forehead lose. Now I have to hope we can win 8 in a row. Maybe I should go Steelhead Fishing.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
334,
Alot of that has to do with COACHING.
I would bet that LAST YEARS historically bad defense would not have allowed Doug freaking Martin to destroy them the way this one did.
It’s a joke.
What we were promised was a team that would get better week by week.
EPIC FAIL..PERIOD.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Mistic, shut the fck up.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
DA took 10 steps back in my estimation today.
This pos defense couldn’t get to the passer if they blitzed 11 guys every play.
They’re weak.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
11-5 is still on the horizon.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
palmer 13 tds 11 turn overs 3-5
wilson 13 tds 9 turn overs 5-4
hmm all take the rookie, he has upside palmer is clearly past it
November 4th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Mr Green Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
11-5 is still on the horizon.
Good day, good evening, almost good morning and thank you.
I feel better now.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
The under hand flip still pisses me off. One of the worst ints i have ever seen on any level of football. today was terrible too
November 4th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
For some of you, the fat lady has sung. But for real Raidah fans, right now the slothard has a frog in throat. DA has some heart attack serious soul searching to do. 18 yards on the ground is akin to Chucky B giving up 99 & 99 1/2 yards. Martin owes DA, Tarver and the knapster a steak dinner. Raidahs will go into Biltmo and smoke some raven.
Coming soon: Mr Green will not try and make sense of today’s travesty.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Is our WR coach better or worse than his predecessor? Our wideouts don’t seem to be playing too well but the Jets receivers seem to be even worse.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Is our WR coach better or worse than his predecessor? Our wideouts don’t seem to be playing too well but the Jets receivers seem to be even worse.
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What about out DC? Ouch.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Heyward bey was incredible today. I am glad to see they are finally featuring the best weapon we have on offense. The one hand grab was everything people say he cant do. Actually palmer had two passes in a row after that completion that should have been picked, the raiders just wouldnt accept the gift toady
November 4th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 11:49 am But Mistic is a clever troll. Lays the groundwork for several weeks focusing exclusively on ‘wave of the future quarterblacks’, and inflaming sensible fans by lambasting, dissing, insulting and occasionally backhandedly complimenting Palmer(just so he can say,’see…). Then he can come in with his crap and provoke the response he cultivated and accuse responders of being racist ’cause HE never mentioned race! Like the blog has no memory? Might work with said responders and a brand new audience but just doesn’t fly here.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Don’t think they can beat the Ravens, ‘Aints, or Brownies…they all are a semblance of an actual football team.
How do you allow 3.9 yards a carry in the first half & flat lay an egg in the second? Just like the Donks game; first half was a defensive mirage & the second more representative of what this defensive football team is; weak up front.
Now onto McFadein (& out). . .back when he came out I wanted the Raiders to draft Ryan Clady & then turn their attention to Matt Forte in the third; well, back then I used to say what good does it do to have a Ferari in the garage when it might be up on blocks a good deal of the time. . .the inside of the o-line can’t do a thing; the defensive line’s performance (or lack thereof) speaks volumes.
Finally; why run the ball on first & goal from the 9 when a pass would be the way to go? And, why not play action on first down when the defense is gearing for the run? Unbelievable that Knapp would be so pig headed to “stay the course” & be so predictable. They do it like clockwork. . .& I, too was anticipating a draw on first down on the ill fated posession down three with a bit more than two minutes left. . .
This team needs to be blowed up. Any talk of remaining in the division hunt has to be the result of wanting to elude banning from access to the locker room. . .
Mistic1, you’re an idiot. Seahawks have a running game. Ever heard of Marshawn “Beast Mode” Lynch? The rookie Durbin, a local product is going to be good as well. What do the Raiders have? You are the epitome of mental midget. Next to the term is your picture. You simpleton. Go back to lightening bolt land, moron. . .
November 4th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I say we play above our true ability(not talent as much as cohesiveness) and catch a few breaks and win the three difficult upcoming games. OK, take a minute to swallow that kool aid. and the we win out against 3 chumps and 3 div. rivals.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
So I missed by one.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
After having 3 passes luckily bounce off the defenders palmers luck ran out in buc territory in the 3rd quarter. he faded backwards with no one within 5 yards of him and threw a tim tebow jump pass off his back foot right into the defenders arms.
That was truly ugly
November 4th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Truthfully, we got down too far and I had no expectations we’d come back. We did and with a 2 pt. conversion to bring it within 3. Gunslinger(not being an uber- athlete of the future) threw a damn pick, and I can live with it.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
The Oakland Raiders run defense of the past 10 seasons is the worst in NFL history! Nobody can deny this fact. It is an embarrassment!
November 4th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Sorry, Mistic. Whether you like it or not, Carson is the best QB we have seen since 2002. He is far superior to the garbage Al Davis put out on the field!
November 4th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Partially responding to Priest#33 and adding to my post #34, the saddest part of Mistics insane diatribes is me really thinking RGIII in particular and some others of Mistics’uber athletes’(his words) could be really special. But because of Mistic, I want to see him struggle and fail as much as I do Rivers and Peyton. Not because I’m racist, just because Mistic is an irritating idiot. That is bad on my part, but human. I will overcome it and ignore Mistic. By the way TJ you used to be opinionated but reasonable. Now you’re cantankerous and unpleasant. What happened?
November 4th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Seattle has a defense and the Raiders do not. There is no comparing QBs.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
See Mr. Green I’m staying above the fray. Kind of. I’m drinking now and reposting cogent missives from my soberer times. Soberer? If i was soberer I’d see if that was a real word.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
We should have got the 1st pick.. but we blew it.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Go lakers!
November 4th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Re:#355 that was before I outed Sully as posting as Priest. He admitted it.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Mistic, Hate to tell you, but the best QBs in the NFL are Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning. Wake up from your fantasy land of who you think are winning QBs.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Coming soon, i would rather watch tp6 making the mistakes that palmer is making, at least he is an exciting young player. Palmer flailing about is just getting dull.
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no, man. u are getting dull. the defense lost the game dummy.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Josh Freeman just kicked Carson Palmers but.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Pryor will never start a game with the Raider Mistic, get over it already.
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get over it? cmon. he hasn’t even gotten over campbell and jarassic yet.
November 4th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Those last two picks by carson were two of the worst of his oakland tenure. Neither pass was any whwere near a silver and black uniform. Palmer had at least 6 other passes that were very near picks in this game. He came unglued like a rookie.
Elite my azz, he is not even close to what our qb did last year, Win. 7-11 isnt worth what we paid for his services.
we got jipped
November 5th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Watching josh freeman effeciently destroy the raider secondary was very strange. Having been of his since he played at k state, i couldnt help but marvel at how he has progressed as a pro. He reminds me most of the qb that once played here, Jason Cambell. Smart with the ball, can make very throw, looks to avoid turn overs, and can pick yp first downs and extend plays with his feet.
Palmer was a statue and a sitting duck. he was abused and left the game with skid marked drawls from crapping his pants in the 2nd half.
I miss good qb play, palmer stinks
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has anyone ever agreed with u mistic? maybe it’s u.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:00 am
And Palmer had 19 yds rushing to help him out.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Now people will do everything on earth to say 3 second half picks isnt carsons fault. Hmm carson has at least 4 games with 3 picks or more, astonishing given that he has only played 18 games.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:04 am
wow 18 games as a raider palmer has at leat 4 games with 3 picks or more.
in 19 games as a raider jc never had a 3 pick game
palmer hasnt lived up to the standard he stinks
November 5th, 2012 at 12:05 am
This loss stings , what a stupid play call that was to ask Palmer to throw over 30 yards on his 60th something attempt, I don’t know if he got hit while throwing it or his arm got too tired ,but it was just a stupid call ,I kinda understand why Palmer attempt that throw , because that’s the only pass that was working all game, our receivers can’t run any other routes, but I still think it should have been a screen or a Rb draw , who knows what would have happened but just attempting 61st attempt that far must be too much after taking hits all day , I don know ,can’t blame Palmer for it though , the other team just made the play … It happens ,but Palmer showed to the league he’s legit , n fukk that pos Mistic , he can go s7kk all the black quarterbacks off , we don’t need him in here gtfo you troll, talking about near ints and stuff , like other Qb’s don’t get lucky with near ints , what a pathetic loser , he is ,adds all the fumbles n stuff together to make hi arguements look better , fukin f4g piece of trash , last week talked about how good TB is , after they game called them mediocre just to make our loss look even worse ,go do something else in ur life , you obviously don’t cheer for this team
November 5th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I had the pleasure of watching newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display of toughness, and amazing talent, slugging it out over a hard fought 4 quarters. The qbs had almost identical numbers through the first half, but cam newton was just too much for the depleted over matched redskin defense. The redskin line crumbled in the 4th quarter giving up sacks and making penalties. They made perfect passes, and flashed their once in a generation athleticism and it was quite the spectacle. A new day in the nfl for sure.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think mistic just came all over himself.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:04 am
wow 18 games as a raider palmer has at leat 4 games with 3 picks or more.
in 19 games as a raider jc never had a 3 pick game
palmer hasnt lived up to the standard he stinks
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Cuz JC was a QB who rather look pretty in a loss then trying his damn hardest to win at any cost , he would have never led us to make a comeback , especially with no running game , if u really think he would have even brought us closer, then I am going to ask you , why is he not starting for any team,
November 5th, 2012 at 12:09 am
November 4th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Is mistics right hand dry yet?
November 5th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Los Raida Locos Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I had the pleasure of watching newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display of toughness, and amazing talent, slugging it out over a hard fought 4 quarters. The qbs had almost identical numbers through the first half, but cam newton was just too much for the depleted over matched redskin defense. The redskin line crumbled in the 4th quarter giving up sacks and making penalties. They made perfect passes, and flashed their once in a generation athleticism and it was quite the spectacle. A new day in the nfl for sure.
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Awe inspiring.
Brilliant manifestations of determination and greatness on display for all the world to witness. A grand spectacle to be sure, but only overshadowed by human frailty and dominence of the victor over the saddened loser. A tale of two cities if you will, euphoria to the dominant and sorrow given to the lesser. If only the world could stand next to such power, what a most bloved better place this could be.
(just seeing if I have any eloquence in me)
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LOL! mistic thinks the axis of the earth just tilted today cuz two black guys played qb in the same game. huey p. newton would be proud.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I had the pleasure of watching newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display of toughness, and amazing talent, slugging it out over a hard fought 4 quarters. The qbs had almost identical numbers through the first half, but cam newton was just too much for the depleted over matched redskin defense. The redskin line crumbled in the 4th quarter giving up sacks and making penalties. They made perfect passes, and flashed their once in a generation athleticism and it was quite the spectacle. A new day in the nfl for sure.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think mistic just came all over himself.
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That was one of the saddest games of the year , this is why black Qb’s never succeed because teams are ready to take advantage if their athletic ability , Shanahan is doing a great job getting his QB killed and ruining his career for evrr with this college pitch type of plays, how many concussions had he had already 2? GRIFFIN. Is good enough to be proto typical pocket passer , but I think with this gimmick type of O Washington is trying to run, Griffin will be out of the nfl not before long time
November 5th, 2012 at 12:15 am
I understand Griffins Support sucks , and Luck got Reggie Wayne , but I still think they should try to run the ball with nfl type playbook , and try to limit RG 3 from getting hit too muxh
November 5th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Fangsraiders Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
newt-dumb = LOSER — RG 1/3 = LOSER — dog-killer = LOSER — freeman = .500 — wilson = one over .500 ….but note the 100% baboons are LOSERS…the other 2 are HALF WHITE!
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fangs–do u realize how stupid u are or do u really think ur superior?
November 5th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Lmao at near miss interceptions , we can add all those near miss interceptions for every QB, what you don’t talk about is those stupid routes the receivers ran that led to those ints , or that hit Palmer took while in his throwing motion while getting hit , lemme hear him tell us that we’re making excuses for his game ,
November 5th, 2012 at 12:20 am
All racists are pathetic , I understand its Mistic why you’re being a b1tch fang, but you don’t need to drop to his level, n you are not the mastermind behind the success of those white Qb’s so calm down n save this sh1t for another day
November 5th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Go Raiders !!!!’
November 5th, 2012 at 12:23 am
I think giving that extra rest after last weeks win was a bad thing they played like they were playing for Tom Cable who always was buddy buddy with players and then they went out and got blown out for all the support Tom cable gave them
November 5th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
The under hand flip still pisses me off. One of the worst ints i have ever seen on any level of football. today was terrible too
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lol! over 400 yards and 4 td’s and it was terrible. what a clown. oh wait, clowns wear white makeup, so mistic would be talking about the “next generation” of clowns that wear black makeup.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:25 am
11-5 is still on the horizon.
Good night/morning.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Ok. Wasn’t going to say this, but here goes. 19 yards on the ground is just plain wrong. It is butt ugly wrong. A hideous display of impotence. Call it what you want, it was just plain nasty. The ZBS needs a serious dose of vitamin B. Has there ever been a game the Raidahs have played where the ground game has been thus futile? Now that the negative is out of my system, you won’t hear about it again from me. That is what makes the Mr Green great. He does not dwell on the not so good stuff. Mostly not. Right Mr Purvisman/Intrepid? Glad you agree.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:15 am
I understand Griffins Support sucks , and Luck got Reggie Wayne , but I still think they should try to run the ball with nfl type playbook , and try to limit RG 3 from getting hit too muxh
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this is why it’s dubious to think this style will be successful in the nfl. defenders are too fast and too big. qb’s who run as part of the offense get crushed. steve young’s style was best. great passer who took off as needed and headed for first downs and the sidelines.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:34 am
i’m looking forward to goodson. dmc has a high ankle sprain and with him, that means he’s our for 3 weeks at least. maybe the season. goodson didn’t require an x-ray so i think he’ll be back. this way, we;ll see if it’s the line (like i think), or the runner. i do like goodson’s jets though. built a little lower to the ground and a bit more compact. jones would be trouble though. he won’t last a half. reece may get more carries, but it’s not his forte.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:36 am
mcfadden20–ur alright kid. fighting the good fight against all the idiots. there are plenty of good raiders fans around too but the morons can be frustrating. even though i bite a lot, it really is best to ignore them. first of all they will NEVER change nor go away. they are oblivious to all logic, reason, and insults. secondly, they love attention. it really pizzes them off if they post and nobody notices.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:04 am
wow 18 games as a raider palmer has at leat 4 games with 3 picks or more.
in 19 games as a raider jc never had a 3 pick game
palmer hasnt lived up to the standard he stinks
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Cuz JC was a QB who rather look pretty in a loss then trying his damn hardest to win at any cost ,
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jc after 19 games 12-7
palmer after 18 games 7-11
scoreboard
palmer sucks good night now
November 5th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Carson Palmer passed for 414 yards today. His high was 417 last season. Jeff Hostetler has all-time Raiders record with 424.
Were those
‘garbage time’ yards? I don’t think so.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:40 am
Mistidiot1 the clueless.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Sorry. Superclueless.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:04 am
wow 18 games as a raider palmer has at leat 4 games with 3 picks or more.
in 19 games as a raider jc never had a 3 pick game
palmer hasnt lived up to the standard he stinks
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Cuz JC was a QB who rather look pretty in a loss then trying his damn hardest to win at any cost ,
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jc after 19 games 12-7
palmer after 18 games 7-11
scoreboard
palmer sucks good night now
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mistic—everyone thinks ur an idiot.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:42 am
tonight marked the first time in nfl history when a second year black qb starter high draft pick, plays against a rookie black qb starter high draft pick. Both have been the unquestioned starter since the start of thier careers.
This wont mean much in terms of ending white supremacy, but it sure was fun to watch.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:43 am
biggest clue mistic is a moron? his obsession with black qb’s? no. his obsession with palmer? nope. his ridiculous “supavillain” moniker? u got it!
November 5th, 2012 at 12:43 am
I’m trying Mr Green. It’s hard. I feel like a worm from alpha ceti 6 has been dropped in my helmet.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:42 am
tonight marked the first time in nfl history when a second year black qb starter high draft pick, plays against a rookie black qb starter high draft pick. Both have been the unquestioned starter since the start of thier careers.
This wont mean much in terms of ending white supremacy, but it sure was fun to watch.
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LOL! white supremacy. the proof of ur stupidity continues with every post.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:46 am
i found mistic online!
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=damon+wayans+prison+character&tnr=21&vid=&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DU.4721643018518678%26pid%3D15.1&tit=In+Living+Color&back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Ddamon%2Bwayans%2Bprison%2Bcharacter&sigb=1275e99dq
November 5th, 2012 at 12:48 am
Dwell not on the not so good stuff, and the stars are within your grasp.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:49 am
what kind of football “expert” watches today’s game and thinks the key to the loss was palmer? mistic is nearly as pathetic as sullivan and beeech. i would include fangs but he’s just so dumb, he’s almost like an animal.
November 5th, 2012 at 1:05 am
hey miss-dick, cam and rg3 have COMBINED for a whopping 14 passing td’s, compared to palmer’s 13.
November 5th, 2012 at 1:25 am
It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider fan. We lost. You’re pissed. More pissed then you have been in some time. Means you have hope. Aspirations. All those things you didn’t have a couple of years ago. Not how I wanted to measure progress,either.
Beats the alternative.
November 5th, 2012 at 1:40 am
i’m a raider. it just is who i am. this season sucks in a lot of ways. but we’re not out of it. besides the first place teams, only pittsburgh seems like a frontrunner for a wild card. and we have seen that we nearly beat the falcons. and we beat the steelers. we almost beat the bucs, and i have a feeling they’re going to the playoffs. we have lost badly, barely beat the two worst teams in the league. so, we’re all over the place. but we’re hanging around. if we go beat the ravens, and this would not shock me at all, then what? it will likely be like this all season. our line sucks. our running game sucks. palmer somehow throws for a ton of yards. we sometimes stop the run, we sometimes don’t. we don’t have a pass rush. my guess is we go 8-8. a chance at 9-7 if we can beat the chargers in the last game. likely around the 10th-15th pick in the draft.
but i think reggie will build this team, and we will be playoff contenders next season, and seriously good after that.
November 5th, 2012 at 1:44 am
Interesting stats from guru Josh Dubow coming out- our run D dropped from 11th to 27th in avg yards allowed in one game… reality check probably but I was a believer that AD was surely making progress on D.
November 5th, 2012 at 1:46 am
As much as I dislike him at the moment, I wouldn’t necessarily put Mistic on the level of Sullivan or Beech. Mistic, however flawed, at least possesses an idealism of sorts with regard to his agenda. Sure it’s annoying, especially when coupled with his schadenfreude over every Raiders loss, but there’s a nostalgic charm to his neuroses.
Mistic seems the type, were he a Timberwolves fan, that would be calling for ownership and management to be fired for happening to field an all-white team, chortling at the Kevin Love injury and every T-Wolves loss.
Now that I think about it, it’s actually pretty sad.
November 5th, 2012 at 1:56 am
The frustrating thing about being a fan of this team and suffering through a dozen or so “reloads” or “rebuilds” is the uncertainty regarding what kind of team we would see on Sunday. There’s no consistency in execution, which makes sense when you think that this is DA’s first year and first staff combined with an inherited roster and limited cap space.
What I’m getting at is while it’s easy to think we’re falling into the same trap we have for the past decade, the consistency we’re seeking WILL ARRIVE this time. Our team may not be a champion, but it will be the result of a determined, unified vision. That is something that we as fans can take comfort in.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:03 am
Did anyone one else watch the broadcast and listen to the commentators say that our “strength” on D was with kelly and Seymore? Talking about it over and over again how Tampa was “attacking us right at our strength up the middle”. How f’ckn rediculous. I’m not a huge hater on Kelly and Seymore, like most in here, but to say that they’re our core defensive players and everyone knows it was just hard to listen to all day. Do these guys even watch the games?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:39 am
November 5th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:42 am
tonight marked the first time in nfl history when a second year black qb starter high draft pick, plays against a rookie black qb starter high draft pick. Both have been the unquestioned starter since the start of thier careers.
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Didn’t Vick and the Falcons play Leftwich his lst or second year in the league?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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November 5th, 2012 at 3:26 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Palmer threw an INT that ended the comeback. W/O Palmer, we wouldn’t have even been in that position.
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You hit the nail on the head Bigelow.
Now hit Mistic on the head.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:28 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Palmer threw an INT that ended the comeback. W/O Palmer, we wouldn’t have even been in that position. Raiders lost for one reason. The defense couldn’t stop Martin. STFU about Palmer. This team has much bigger problems. Raiders still don’t have enough quality players thanks to Al.
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I meant to post the whole post.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:57 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Looks like the countdown is on to take TP6 out for a spin. This team as I have tried to explain has not come any where near matching what we had at the beginning of last year. That was wining football, this is just lousy.
Multiple picks in crunch time, branch and huff being, branch and huff.The bucs did all they could to give this game to the raiders, but the raiders refused to accept the gift. In fact palmer took the game and delivered the game to the bucs with his scatter shot right arm as he has done several time since joining our beloved silver and black.
The impostor fans refuse to acknowledge the gravity of the failed palmer experiment. A roll of the dice that came up craps, palmer sags back into the lad of bone headed back breaking gaffes.
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The failed Palmer experiment is in direct correlation to the failed JaMarcus Russell experiment and the failed Jason Campbell experiment.
Need now move on to T-Pryor, and weigh whether to bring back Kelly, Huff, or begin cleaning house. The upside is that Burris and Wheeler look promising – going to need a lot of picks, and ones that stick.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:59 am
Raider RB’s rushed for 19 yards on 10 carries
Palmer threw 3 INT’s
I think it’s easy to blame the defense, but we were in position to win or tie with 4 minutes left … before DMo17 zigged when he should have zagged!
November 5th, 2012 at 4:02 am
Need now move on to T-Pryor
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Sam,
why Pryor isn’t incorporated into the offense is mind boggling to me. McFadden & Goodson both got hurt and TJones is a fumbling menace
if nothing else, give him a few carries or use some trickeration!
November 5th, 2012 at 4:05 am
Doug Martin thinks McClain & Branch are beasts versus the run, lol
November 5th, 2012 at 4:07 am
It took 9 weeks before Knapp factors Reece heavily into the gameplan? Seriously? In fact, it was Palmer with the no-huddle that was the impetus for getting Reece so involved.
This is exactly why Knapp is useless. Guys like Reece, Ausberry, Jones, all floundering under Knapp’s 1st half offensive gameplans.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:09 am
“I had some critical errors.”
-Carson Palmer
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we know!!
November 5th, 2012 at 4:12 am
This is exactly why Knapp is useless
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huh?
I thought the knock on Knapp was that we couldn’t put up yards & points?
Raiders offense produced 32 points and 415 passing yards yesterday without McFadden (our best player) & Khalif Barnes
some guys hate just to hate, I guess. Right GG?
November 5th, 2012 at 4:16 am
tons of stat geeks in here…
old man Palmer is on pace to have his BEST season, in his 1st year under Knapp
Reggie & Dennis have to find Pollack an asst line coach and some decent players to work with in the offseason!!
November 5th, 2012 at 4:19 am
Defensive lineman Desmond Bryant was taken to a local hospital with an accelerated heartbeat
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so were a lot of Raider fans after Palmer’s INT when we were only down by 3 points with 4 minutes to play and our defense just forced a 3 & out
November 5th, 2012 at 4:22 am
not sure what Allen & Tarver said to the defense at halftime, but I’m guessing it was something like “relax fellas, it’s just a game”
that 3rd quarter was atrocious!!
November 5th, 2012 at 4:24 am
I was against benching Huff in favor of Bartell, but not anymore.
Huff is better at FS than Giordano though!
Sterling Moore might have got a call from Reggie yesterday…
November 5th, 2012 at 4:33 am
I still feel the same. Last years team was not as good as its record and this team is better then its record.
The reason is CP3. We are in any game untill the end and yesterday proved that. CP almost pulled that train wreck out.
Take away those three long runs, make them 15 to 30 yard gains and we win that game.Amazing that we came back, I loved the two point conversion and the 4 yard QB sneak with CP pushing the pile two yards.
I wonder if I cam get some CP3 letters. I will take Cable off my jersey and put CP3 on
Plunketthead is very happy about the team and the direction we are headed
Almost the best year ever!!
November 5th, 2012 at 4:36 am
I hope Desmond was not popping adderall
November 5th, 2012 at 4:40 am
TJ fumbled the first time he had the ball, yikes.
Next week we may find out if the typhoon can run. I would not be suprised if he got a lot of yards next week before being injured or fumbled.
I notice Goodson made people miss when he has the ball. He does not fall down on first contact like Dmac is doing. Mike was jumping over people and getting 2 to 3 yards after being hit instead of falling down.
I have to say it. He made DMac look like a soft taco with a jello filling
November 5th, 2012 at 4:49 am
I think he has mental issues and its in his head. He is worried that every run may be his last. He may not have the heart or desire to play hard.
Either that or he is trying to limit his hard hits in the hopes that he will have a long carrer and cash lots of paychecks.
Or its all Knapps fault. I could buy that if Dmac broke a tackle now and then.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:04 am
The Reality… The Defense still sucks……not enough pressure on the Qb….the Wr ’s are still inconsistent … The Oline still has too many issues… Still to many penalties at Key times…. And still questionable play calling .. The fake punt ?… The onside kick?… Although the defense hasn’t shown it could stop a team of blind girlscouts ……..to me , even with the Ints Palmer was a warrior … Can’t have a guy throwing 62, 63 times a game…. But he did keep the Raiders in the game…. Players I thought would be very good just aren’t..
November 5th, 2012 at 5:11 am
It took 9 weeks before Knapp factors Reece heavily into the gameplan? Seriously?
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GG,
You DO realize that coming into this game, Reece was averaging the same amount of recieving yards per game in 2012 as he was in 2011 (25ypg)?
Now Reece is about to blow past his recieving totals from last year, in less games.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:12 am
I’m watching the Raids getting their azzes handed to them and I realize it doesn’t bother me as much as it used to.
I’m completely over this year’s team.
It’s more than just being unable to stop the run or to run it ourselves.
Krapp’s offense isn’t only ineffective – it’s a SNOOZER.
I don’t give a fk if you want to blame dropped passes, lousy line play, lack of execution, blah blah blah.
Do we need better players ? You bet. But there’s also something fundamentally wrong with Krapp’s O.
It’s freaking BORING. It’s not smooth. It looks out of synch. It’s predictable to the point where I’m convinced those consistent STUFFED runs are partly due to opposing defenses KNOWING what’s coming. It’s unimaginative. Lethargic. Unwatchable.
It’s a freaking SNOOZZZZZZEFEST of stuffed runs, 3 and outs, and failure in the red zone.
Absolutely NO IDENTITY, SIGNATURE PLAY or SWAGGER.
It’s simply not COORDINATED well. Goes way deeper than just player failure and personnel shortcomings.
And it’s not just KRAPP.
TITS has some explaining to do for that ridiculous fake punt attempt on 4th and FOREVER. NO CHANCE. On-side kick was pre-mature and foolish as well. FAIL.
Despite all the crap – still have the ball, down by 3 with two timeouts and over two mins to go. There’s a chance – a REAL GOOD chance.
Yet the Raids appear to be in PANIC mode. You get the feeling that a well COORDINATED drive culminating in a TD is unlikely. Is there anything they can run with confidence ? Any semblance of a ‘go to’ play ? Can you sense a well planned, well executed, well COORDINATED, TD drive coming ? Nope.
Didn’t deserve to win anyway.
Done with this team. Not interested in the BS excuses, rationalizations and explanations.
My buddy, JFB, can (and will) quote all the ‘we’re averaging .243678 more (or less) points’ than 2011 stats til he’s blue in the face. It’s meaningless.
Forget 2012. And unless you want to forget 2013 and beyond (even if the D ever gets fixed) you better forget Krapp – and pray TITS cleans up his act as well.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Branch not intercepting that pass that hit him in the head cost us 7 points.
Gio getting roasted on 3rd and a bazillion deep to Jackson cost us another 3.
Can we get a safety that understands how to patrol the back end of a passing defense?
November 5th, 2012 at 5:15 am
RM99,
I think it is right at .5 points less per game, and we are averaging almost 4 points more per second half than last year.
And Taiwan stinks. First touch, fumble, next touch, body-slammed by a rookie.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:15 am
Shantherat is not doing so well in the DC. Over the past 15 years Snyder has tried everything and everyway to win and has had no success. Proof that theres more to it then just getting a good coach/gm/players.
Article on skins at PFT
His 14-27 record gives him a lower winning percentage than either Jim Zorn or Steve Spurrier, guys who were regarded as over their heads.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:17 am
Yet the Raids appear to be in PANIC mode.
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They were in panic mode for an hour of real time or more, and was akin to a hoops team making a furious comeback by hoisting all kinds of 3’s.
Once it got close, they couldn’t take a deep breath.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but we had 3 timeouts, and I almost though burning one to take a collective deep breath would have been a great idea.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:18 am
Once we start replacing these players that are future hall of famers in the minds of Raider fans with players that are actually good, we’re going to see results.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Stupid penalties, no run D, no playoffs, 3rd in the AFC West.
Yup, just another Raiders season. It is like groundhog day (or season).
This team is basically the same thing we have seen the last 10 years.
10 and Then!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Same old Raiders. Have that chance to get to .500, respectability and even 1st place, and they choke. Makes sense, because we have a lot of the same players.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:24 am
Those arm tackling DBs are a joke, soft pretending to be hurt when they miss a tackle clowns! They don’t put fear of getting hit in any WR! We need big physical DBs like the Seahawks.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:26 am
Talking about horrible officiating at games this weekend. All the BS we were fed by the media and most all fans knew that replacement refs were just as good as reg refs.
In other words reg refs screw up ALL the time and cost teams games which the media made out to be something horrible that never happened under reg refs
The media is all BS on everything including the lies that keep America in the ME and now Africa killing people in the name of democracy
November 5th, 2012 at 5:26 am
Can we end the McFadden elite back nonsense?
One good year out of 5 seasons.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:31 am
People ridiculed me when after we drafted DHB I said he would have the better career out of him, Jamarcus and McFadden.
Well, that is looking closer and closer with each NFL season.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:34 am
I was really looking forward to being able to watch the NFL network this week after our win, now it’s worse than ever, all they talk about is Doug Martin, and how he ran all over the Raiders.
Well, I guess I’ll have to wait until next season.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Once it got close, they couldn’t take a deep breath.
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Couldn’t or didn’t ?
Coaching, my friend.
No poise.
What happened the previous 58 mins becomes IRRELEVANT at that moment. Absolutely no reason to be in panic mode with two timeouts in your pocket and over 2 mins to go.
But like I said, you didn’t get the feeling a well executed TD drive was coming. At least I didn’t.
Did you really see the Raids marching downfield for a TD there ?
Any chance of mixing in a successful run at that point ?
Any ‘go to’ play that would gain sure yardage to keep a drive alive ?
Nope.
That’s more of the reason for ‘panic’ and looking lost and unprepared there than anything else.
FAILURE BY KRAPP, TITS and TIM.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:39 am
Raiderman
As dissapointed as you are but my expectations for this seasons were low and are low for next year as well.
Not sure how old you are but when the Raiders were good most of their football was boring.
A few passes to Freddie and Wells but a heavy dose of Hubbard and Banaszak that won games.
I almost forgot, we also played good defense.
Football is all about blocking and tackling.
Reggie will draft for Dline next year.
Our Dline is so bad that the rest of the team has to scramble to compensate.
Pathetic.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Any chance of mixing in a successful run at that point ?
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To who?
By my count we had 5 rushing attempts the 2nd half. Palmer’s QB sneak, two runs to Goodson for 3 yards before he got hurt, Taiwan’s 2 yard run, and a nice run by Reece called back for holding.
Running the ball was not an option, IMO.
And since you, me, probably EVERYBODY realized we weren’t “marching down the field for a TD”, it probably was better served to keep heaving it down the field.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:42 am
plunkethead, I saw a ton of plays where the Bucs were blocking illegally, pushing Raider defenders in the back. On one of those plays, the Raiders were called for a penalty. Yep, it’s going to take a while for the Raiders’ new management to get the league’s sanctions on Al Davis’s Raiders lifted.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Well, JFB, it’s because Russell and McFadden are flat out busts.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Phony sully
Refs could call a penalty on almost every play on either team. Is there a Raider bias? Who knows?
I believe the DA can turn the bias around. He will have three years in Oaklandto build a good rapport with refs.
He is learning and he will make mistakes. I just hope he gets better
November 5th, 2012 at 5:49 am
10 and Then!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 5:50 am
And since you, me, probably EVERYBODY realized we weren’t “marching down the field for a TD”, it probably was better served to keep heaving it down the field.
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How’d that work out ?
Maybe if the offense was better COORDINATED, actually had some identity (besides stuffed runs and red zone failure), a few signature or ‘go to plays’ we wouldn’t be relying on ‘heaves’.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Something needs to happen with Doreen McFaden and her “tired dogs”
This is the time of season he rests them a lot. It use to mean he sat on the coach when he was not practicing/playing.
Now it means he takes some games off
November 5th, 2012 at 5:52 am
(besides stuffed runs and red zone failure)
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I believe the Raiders 4 out of 5 in the red zone yesterday, just missing a perfect 5 for 5 by a fingernail on the Streater throw in the first quarter.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:54 am
How many bad routes did we see by the Wr’s yesterday…. Way to Fk’n many…and somebody up above made a great point….when it was 35 to 32 the coaching staff should have composed the team…. They looked panicked … And we saw the result….their was plenty of time….should have just picked up 1st downs instead of going for big plays…. That’s poor coaching… Progress ?… Nope… Haven’t seen any…
November 5th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Firebaby
You dont seem your usual chipper self.
Does this mean you are not as “high” on the team as you were last week?
Or you still stewing a little?
November 5th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Did someone blow some green stuff in the locker room on the defense side of the locker room at half time! 30 yards rushing in the first half…then what 220 in the second half???
Anyways, gotta love the Palmer haters in here! He HAD to throw on every down once Goodson got hurt! Run? by FN who??? And 3 INTS…like Mistic says over and over, a bust in the worst trade of all time! Yeah, maybe trade status by HUE, but he was a warrior yesterday and had the team believing! And had the crowd so loud that for the first time in a long time, if ever, back to back delay of game penalties! I mean…well, call it what you will, the D f’d up!
November 5th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Lots of players on the team just aren’t that good..(..heavy sigh ….)
November 5th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Plunk,
Yesterday’s loss about dooms the season.
Not that I thought we would REALLY make a deep playoff run, but in my lifetime, my annual expectations for the Raiders is to hopefully have something to play for in week 16 still.
More often than not, they fail to even live up to those poorous expectations, but a win yesterday and that was still on the table.
Now, not so much.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:00 am
“The strength of the Raiders is their front four.” B.S.
The weakness of the Raiders is #93 and #92. Could not tackle my grandmother who passed away at 100 yrs old.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Charlie Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 5:39 am
Raiderman
As dissapointed as you are but my expectations for this seasons were low and are low for next year as well.
Not sure how old you are but when the Raiders were good most of their football was boring.
A few passes to Freddie and Wells but a heavy dose of Hubbard and Banaszak that won games.
I almost forgot, we also played good defense.
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Charlie, like you, I’m a dinosaur.
I don’t know man, I NEVER found the Raids boring during the good years.
Frustrating as hell to continuously come up just short before whacking the Vikes in Pasadena, but NEVER boring.
In fact, the Raids were one of – if not the most – EXCITING teams to watch.
And it wasn’t bcz they were winners and consistently excellent.
GREAT comebacks. EXPLOSIVE.
No, the Raids were never boring. Anything but.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Extra… Agree… But I used the example … ” They couldn’t tackle a team of ” blind Girlscouts”
November 5th, 2012 at 6:03 am
How many pro bowlers do we have on this roster?
Can any of you honestly predict that Carson Palmer will one day win a Super Bowl as a starting QB?
November 5th, 2012 at 6:03 am
I thought the game was just like all our games this year other then the three breakout runs. We saw plenty of good and bad plays on O and D. Never able to put everything together for 60 minutes.
If Darren had stayed healthy we would have continued to run him hoping he would have some better luck late in the game.
He goes down and Dougie breaks out. CP has to put the team on his shoulders and gives us an amazing show just not quite enough.
We just dont have quality football players all throughout the lineup. The coaching may not be the greatest either. nonetheless I am not in favor of blowing it up. Have to stay the course and hope that Reggie can stockpile some ballers
November 5th, 2012 at 6:05 am
“The strength of the Raiders is their front four.” B.S.
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Houston played OK, nice block kicked but horrendous offsides on a 3rd down, but Shonasty, TK and Seymour COMBINED for 2 assisted tackles and 1 solo tackle, and also threw in a personal foul.
No sacks, no QB pressures, no QB hits.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:06 am
nonetheless I am not in favor of blowing it up. Have to stay the course and hope that Reggie can stockpile some ballers
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10 and Then!!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:08 am
(besides stuffed runs and red zone failure)
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I believe the Raiders 4 out of 5 in the red zone yesterday, just missing a perfect 5 for 5 by a fingernail on the Streater throw in the first quarter.
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Good point.
But you have to admit that hasn’t been the case most of the season.
Blame it on dropped passes, bad play calling, inability to pound the rock – fact is, we’ve been lousy in the red zone. Unless you consider kicking FG’s a success.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:10 am
My Girlfriend unleashed some cuss words I didn’t even know she knew yesterday…never seen her lose it like that … Very frustrating….
November 5th, 2012 at 6:10 am
we’ve been lousy in the red zone.
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We’ve been lousy for years in the red zone.
I think what we seen this year is about par for the course, unfortunately.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 5:31 am
People ridiculed me when after we drafted DHB I said he would have the better career out of him, Jamarcus and McFadden.
Well, that is looking closer and closer with each NFL season.
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Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back. If I had a dollar for every time I read one of your “I told you so” posts I’d be a rich man. This one is a real stretch though. Gloating that DHB would be better than Russell who had already been on the team for 2 years and McFadden who has been injury prone but has more football ability than DHB can dream of. How is slolando doing this year?
November 5th, 2012 at 6:13 am
fb
Thats perfect. Cosigned.
In all honesty my hopes were never high to begin with. I am looking at the longer term victories. I want to see Reg/DA, even Knapster have success. They cant lose the team. Help build a org. that other players and coaches will be proud to play for again.
Its been too long to be a laughing stock. They have to keep playing hard and finish strong. 8-8 may not be too hard to achieve which would be fantastic.
5-3 And Then
November 5th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Fingers, I got your girlfriend to unleash those cuss words one night.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:14 am
We are 2 games behind the colts, 1 behind the chargers and dolphins for the last wild card with 8 to go. I understand the frustration of yesterdays loss , especially since we were down 3 at home with ball with 2 minutes left. However, im not ready to give up on the season bc we seem to be a comeback type of team. We came back against Pitt to win , down 14 against the jags in 3rd quarter and came back to win, yesterday we start the 4th quarter down 18 and end up with a real chance to win.
I am down on knapp, i hope he is fired but in reality if he does it wont be until the end of the season. However, CP3 is playing at such a high level. Consider this, there is only 3 players IMO who are in the top 50% at their position Palmer, Jano, and Lechler. Reece and Myers are debatable. Palmer with a bad OL, young WR who have trouble creating separation and running routes, non exsistant running game, yet Palmer keeps us in games and is our only player on offense playing well.. that 4th and 2 sneak was amazing.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:15 am
JFB, you did predict McFadden and Russell wouldn’t pan out…so did 97% of other Raider fans.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:16 am
How is slolando doing this year?
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Better than McFadden
November 5th, 2012 at 6:18 am
JFB, I’d have to concur but only because we now have no running backs in our arsenal! First our 2 starting corners, and now our 2 starting running backs…in the same game???!!! Who knows at this point if we will beat KC on December 16th!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Gloating that DHB would be better than Russell who had already been on the team for 2 years and McFadden who has been injury prone
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No gloating Carl, in fact I may still be wrong on it.
Just like pointing out to people that tell me I am wrong before the book is closed, that they were and not I.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:19 am
If I had a dollar for every time I read one of your “I told you so” posts I’d be a rich man.
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That’s quite the compliment.
Thank you!!!!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:20 am
The defense is better, but it is pretty clear that at least half of the defensive starters need to be replaced. They just don’t have NFL caliber guys playing out there. Seymour and Kelly need to go. Rolando is never going to cut it. Gio is too slow. Branch gives up too many big plays. Huff is alright, but not great. We have no pass rush from the defensive line. Raiders still have too many of Al’s guys.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:21 am
But, Nyc hit it on the head…Palmer has put this team on his back yesterday! And even though the Bucs had the 31st pass defense, when you know that the other team cannot run anymore…something is bound to give!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Can we FINALLY fix the D-Line and the run defense please?
The run defense is the beginning, middle and end!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:23 am
how many gms in the league would take dhb over dmac. if you cut them both today , i question if dhb would be claimed by more than 2-5 teams
November 5th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raiderman
They did have some of the most memorable games in NFL history.
In order to get to those games they ran and stopped the run more often than not consistently winning 10 games a year.
If you remember that when they lost those frustrating playoff games, they became one dimensional because they could not run the ball and their defense eventually wore down.
The Super Bowl against the Vikings was all about running and stopping the run.
The game of football is decided on the line of scrimmage. Our Oline is average but our dline is pathetic. Our top two picks next year will be on the Dline.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:27 am
injuries for dmac and goodson might be a blessing in disguise. it may force us to run the hurry up for most of the game. except for the palmer int yesterday, we generally dont go 3 and out when we run the hurry up. the hurry up is our only strength offensively, its why we are a good comeback team.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Oh well. Another season down the toilet. Like Charlie, I didn’t expect much this year. Thought we’d be fortunate to win 7 games.
After getting demolished in Mia and Denver thought we might only win 2-4 games.
We might win more than 4, but it won’t be bcz this team is any good. The AFC is weak and there’s just so much parity.
That’s why it sucks to be the ‘weak sister’ and getting blown out, when it’s all there for the taking.
Most disturbing to me is I don’t like the regression I see on offense (don’t care what your stats say JFB) and we’ve got a gazillion holes still to fill EVERYWHERE.
Thought we’d have a decent O this year, despite my doubts abt Palmer – and that we’d make some strides on D and build from there.
Back to square one. Heck, with Krapp we’re back to square -1.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I haver never seen a Raiders defense get absolutely destroyed in the 2nd half of a game this bad in the running game. Once again, the opposing team coaches made the right half time adjustments and this coaching staff made the wrong ones. This is becoming an annoying trend.
So much for Huff being a shut down corner. That can be put to bed. That Hamster guy is good, but no way is he that freakin good. The d line made him look like the second coming of Gayle Sayers.
The O-line stinks. Willie Smith should not be starting anymore. Don’t understand why Bergstrom is not playing.
This coaching staff as a whole makes me scratch my head much too often. The play calling by Knapp the last two drives absolutely stunk.
Palmer should not be put in a position to put a team on his back. If he chucks it that many times you are going to see int’s pile up. He is better than any other option right now, but with no running game, an o-line that stinks, you cannot expect him to dominate like Aaron Rodgers.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 6:19 am
If I had a dollar for every time I read one of your “I told you so” posts I’d be a rich man.
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That’s quite the compliment.
Thank you!!!!!!
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Sorry, wasn’t implying that you were correct in the I told you so posts. Just that you seem to think you know it all.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:35 am
I think Reggie has an eye for talent, or a gut for it but he sure missed on his first overall pick as GM. He could have had WR givens or RB turbin.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Yesterdays game just highlights the painfully obvious.
We just don’t have all the pieces in place yet to be consistent. We need help on both lines and it’s gonna come from the draft but unfortunately this year we are stuck with what we have and we are average at best.
FRUSTRATING AND PAINFUL TO WATCH!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:37 am
you’re right Boss, Palmer is NOT Aaron Rodgers, but if everyone can play with the heart that Palmer has…maybe?
BTW: What was up with Lechler passing the ball on 4th and 9 and not passing it pass the sticks??? In their territory???
November 5th, 2012 at 6:38 am
I haver never seen a Raiders defense get absolutely destroyed in the 2nd half of a game this bad in the running game
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November 5th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Look like*^
November 5th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Just that you seem to think you know it all.
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I’ll take that as another compliment!!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:39 am
BTW: What was up with Lechler passing the ball on 4th and 9 and not passing it pass the sticks??? In their territory???
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Knapp designed that one for sure.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Just that you seem to think you know it all.
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I’ll take that as another compliment!!!!
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Obviously. Par for your course.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:42 am
At one point this Hamster guy who was an unknown, a nobody before sunday had 265 yds rushing and 4 td’s. Not sure what happened for him to finish with 251 since I turned off the tv after the last int. Not even LT had a game like this.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:42 am
If Streeter catches that last pass that went through his fingertips this game would have ended much differently.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Boss01, if Palmer had the same WR’s that Rodgers has, he probably could carry the team if needed. Moore is good but inconsistent, still only his 2nd season though. dHB is average Streater a rookie and hagan is a solid number 4 WR.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:45 am
seymour and kelly havent played to the level of their contracts they signed. i doubt they will be here next year . however, when is the last defensive end we’ve had that required being double teamed? our bigger problem is a lack of playmaker on the end and then rolando making questionable decisions with the gap he chooses. Defensive tackles dont give up 50 yard runs , thats on the linebackers and safeties. once again , they will be gone next year, but until with get a playmaker on the edge and imo get rid of branch and rolando , i dont care who we have as our DTs we still will have issues.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Boss01, if Palmer had the same WR’s that Rodgers has, he probably could carry the team if needed. Moore is good but inconsistent, still only his 2nd season though. dHB is average Streater a rookie and hagan is a solid number 4 WR.
True!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:46 am
On a positive note, Baltimore looked very beatable yesterday. I am still not watching the game next sunday, I have a feeling I will reach a boiling point if the game gets out of hand, No telling what I may be liable to do.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Honest question for you gentlemen…
If CP doesn’t throw the pick in ATL and the game ender against TB yesterday – and if we actually won those games and were 5-3 now instead of 3-5…
Would you feel good about this team…
Would you see a bright future and a team on the verge…
Or one that is still far away from competing for a SB ?
November 5th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Boss01, if Palmer had the same WR’s that Rodgers has, he probably could carry the team if needed. Moore is good but inconsistent, still only his 2nd season though. dHB is average Streater a rookie and hagan is a solid number 4 WR.
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Not sure he would be Rodgers, but this team does not have a solid number one. Moore is a solid 2, DHB is a 3 right now.
They are no Vincent Jackson – Mike Williams tandem that’s for sure.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:50 am
One that is still far away from a SB conntention, but lucky enough to probably make it there!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:54 am
if you install any of the previous qbs weve had since gannon instead of cp3 we would be 1-7
November 5th, 2012 at 6:56 am
It’s funny how a few of us raider fans were watching the game yesterday with a 10-7 halftime lead thinking its nice to have a team with a defense…
When this team finally has the players in place that fit the system, Kelly, Seymour, McClain, huff, shaugnessy will all be forgotten.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Raiders rank 28th in 3rd quarter points for with 3.0
Rank dead last in 3rd quarter points against with 11.0
November 5th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Carson’s INTs are about a lack of an effective run game and go-to receiver than anything else.
Greg Jennings, if healthy, will be a Raider next year. This will allow Reggie to focus the draft on upgarding the D-Line and O-Line.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:03 am
I think Reggie will get us the talent we need in the next two drafts but it will take that long.
About the only real keeper on the Dline is Houston.
Kelly is a decent backup but hardly worth the salary.
Reggie just can not fix it in one season.
We will get dominated by good athletic Olines for the rest of the year.
Reggie has had to cobble together a secondary, part of the oline and dline and a good part of special teams off of the waiver wire because of a decade of mismanagement.
What was created in ten years will not get fixed in one.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:03 am
I’d still see a team that is far more likely to lose 6 games in a row than win 3 in a row.
I’d still see a team without an impact player on defense that is loaded with holes in every area – that can’t stop the run or the pass.
I’d still see a lethargic, boring offense incapable of running the ball, converting 3rd downs or stretching the field.
I’d still see a team – even if it was 5-3 – that isn’t even close to having the right elements for a sustained period of winning or contending for a Lombardi.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Watch the highlights (if u can stomach them) of the Martin runs yesterday and you’ll see one constant; McClain appears to be the culprit.
Each highlight I saw McClain is out of position…If he is where he’s supposed to be those runs don’t happen. Martin slips right by him while McClain is engaged to the side, unable to break from the blocker; or…just simply doing something else while Martin goes by.
He is a LIABILITY. His mere presence on the field is a detriment to the team.
I don’t care how many tackles he had…i’m talking about the HUUUUUGE ones he missed.
The tape doesn’t lie.
He needs to be benched..period.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:05 am
have we ever made a first down in our 8 games with the first drive after halftime?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:06 am
New slogan for the Raiders:
“We make All-Pro Tailbacks for others!”
November 5th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Curry needs to be activated today. Curry with no knees is still a better option than Slowlando at this point.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Old news DJ Johnny…
November 5th, 2012 at 7:11 am
I’d like your opinions on my McClain analysis. I’ll admit it if i’m wrong, but what I see is him kind of just throwing himself into the the pile and waiting for someone to run into it so THEN he can maybe grab on.
I don’t know, but it appears Martin just kind of lowers his body and sneaks by the line and line backers.
Give Martin some credit, tip your cap or whatever to him but those runs SHOULD have been stopped; and would have been stopped by MOST mlb’s.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Old news DJ Johnny…
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Sorry I just joined in this morning.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Curry is the worst LB on this team not named Travis Goethel.
However, Goethel is probably better in coverage than Curry.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Old news DJ Johnny…
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Sorry I just joined in this morning.
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Old news as in a recurring story for a couple of years now lol
November 5th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Depending on how bad Goodsons injury is the RB position could be a wash. Did you see TJ get smoked trying to cut up field?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:18 am
McClain is the worst LB on this team not named Travis Goethel period.
That said Goethel is better in coverage than Slowlando.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:19 am
It’s really a shame that turbin wasn’t drafted over Bergstrom. Isn’t he from Oakland? I remember a story on him predraft.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:19 am
That RT from the Redskins we have playing is awful.
Give me a DT that can disrupt the LOS. TKelly and Seymour are pass rushing DTs and bad ones at that (see Geno Atkins ,cincy,for a real example of a DT).
The D-Line was too heavily focused on free agent crap heap or aging vets. Guys like Sands, WarrenN TK, Seymour were never the answer.
So here we are. Have an offense that can score, but D can’t stop the run, gets exposed on playaction and has a suspect secondary.
Where’s Mike Mitchell?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:20 am
That first long run td by Martin, where the heck was the safeties??? There was NO ONE even close to even try to run him down!
November 5th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Told you guys. I wasnt being negitive i was only being honest. This is not a tea capable of winning 3 straight..
November 5th, 2012 at 7:21 am
McClain had 5 solo tackles yesterday, Burris and Wheeler COMBINED had 6, even though they were on the field a ton more than he was.
Burris = 0 2nd half tackles. How does a LB play every snap, and not assist on a tackle for an entire half?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Every time I have seen TJ get the ball he either fumbles it or gets blown up. He looks scared out there. I hope one of our RB’s can play this week. Imagine TJ against the Baltimore D. Recipe for disaster. That said I would roll with Reece at RB and let Palmer throw it over 60 again. Problem is Ed Reed will have like 4 int’s, with a pick six probably.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Gross..
November 5th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I like Burris and will concede some rookie lumps as we go along, but that was brutal to watch yesterday.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:24 am
The D-Line was too heavily focused on free agent crap heap or aging vets. Guys like Sands, WarrenN TK, Seymour were never the answer.
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hindsight is a beautiful thing when you see we could have had ngata over huff. Heck even donte whitner was drafted right behind huff. Did huff have a better 40 time than whitner?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Why question the d? They stink nothings changed… we played the 2 worst teams in football whithout there allstar rbs… we should have lost those games and got the top pick..
November 5th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Just like a great o-line can make a mediocre RB effective; a great d-line can do the same for the LBs.
Fix the D-Line and find another “wheeler” calibre MLB that works hard is focused and athletic.
Anyone remember Jasper Brinley, a 5th rd pick I wanted a few yrs ago that is fitting in nicely in Minnesota
November 5th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Burris had his worst game for sure. He’ll bounce back and in the long run I think he’s a fixture at LB.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:21 am
McClain had 5 solo tackles yesterday, Burris and Wheeler COMBINED had 6, even though they were on the field a ton more than he was.
Burris = 0 2nd half tackles. How does a LB play every snap, and not assist on a tackle for an entire half?
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Burris is a rookie, McClain was picked to be the Star MLB of this team. What world are you living in? Are you from Alabama?
You just looked at the stat line and saw how many tackles he had, obviously you were’nt following the game closely.
5 tackles, really? that’s your defense of Slowlando, 5 tackles? even average mlb’s get more than 10 tackles.
He may have had more tackles than Burris and Wheeler, but did you catch how many he whiffed on? obviously not because whiffed tackles do not show on the stat line. I hope you are not seriously arguing that he is a better player than Wheeler, even Burris. Yesterday the whole D stunk in the second half but still, McClain did not exactly shine either.
McClain is garbage period, anyway you slice it. I want him gone already as in today.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:29 am
BIG GAME AT CANDLESTICK THIS SUNDAY, YOU ALL NEED TO BE THERE. I THINK THE 49ERS CAN CLINCH THE WEST WITH WIN OVER SACRAFICIAL LAMBS. THE FAIDERS COULDNT BEAT THE 49ERS PRACTICE SQUAD. 666
November 5th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Anyone remember Jasper Brinley, a 5th rd pick I wanted a few yrs ago that is fitting in nicely in Minnesota
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Apparently, I told you so’s are not allowed, but good call nevertheless
November 5th, 2012 at 7:31 am
5 tackles, really? that’s your defense of Slowlando, 5 tackles? even average mlb’s get more than 10 tackles.
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Actually he had 6, 2nd most on the team, without playing anywhere near the same amount of snaps as the other LB’s.
So are Wheeler and Burris better than McClain? Probably.
But they weren’t yesterday.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I want him gone already as in today.
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Tough break, because he will probably restructure this offseason and be here for another 2-3 years.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:33 am
D-Line has been a top issue for some on here for a long, long time.
It really manifested itself for ALL to see yesterday.
Sadly, I hate to think if MJD played last week, similiar build to the Tampa running back, or if KC just focused on running the rock with Charles.
Ray Rice next week.
Reggie, please fix the lines. The team is embarrassing itself again!
November 5th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I’m disappointed in DA. He’s supposed to be this defensive minded HC and he says the goal is “to get better” each day, each week.
When they digress like they did yesterday it’s a failure.
It’s as if they have to go back and start from square one.
McClain should not even be on the field. That’s the 1st thing.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:35 am
That NFC West is garbage excpet for SF and maybe Seattle! AZ was exposed and now lost 5 straight! But looking at our division, it is still open IMO, but with Mr. Papa John there…
November 5th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I want him gone already as in today.
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Tough break, because he will probably restructure this offseason and be here for another 2-3 years.
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If he restructures I’m ok with that. You will see him on special teams for 2-3 years.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:36 am
I told you sos are allowed.. and i told all of the koolaid drinking delusionals so.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:41 am
JFB,
Agreed on backword view. My point is that if the Raiders make a REAL effort to fix the D-Line, then you can find a decent MLB in 3rd and 4th rounds. Hell, even 2nd round.
Raiders have to look at D-Line a s a position to be built from scratch almost.
Houston has a role and Bryant is a good depth guy. The rest?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:11 am
I’d like your opinions on my McClain analysis.
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DJ, your McClain analysis is solid and obvious to just about everyone.
One day, JFB’s ‘Slomania’ will be laughed about just as hilariously as Debo’s never ending support of JaMoron was. (Whatever happened to ole Debo ?)
Slojoggo McWhiff is an epic bust.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Mark, to be fair, we were in position to win that game yesterday! But with only one guy really playing his heart out, it is what it is! But now, with our rb’s both out and mediocre to possibly terrible depth behind them, we’ll see how this plays out! Injuries happen and for some reason they always happen to us, but this will be a coaching stand point for Dennis Allen these upcoming weeks!
Also, when have we ever had 2 back to back delay penalties caused by crowd noise? It was so loud, we couldn’t even talk to each other yesterday!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 am
So when Aaron Curry gets back on the field, if he does, when he runs the wrong way on plays and leaves his gaps, I want you guys to be as hard on him as you are on the rest of the defensive players.
There is a reason if Curry comes back, the staff already said he would be AT BEST the 4th LB.
His lack of discipline in staying home on misdirection was alarming. Last season, you could count on the real crucial 3rd down plays, to be some type of misdirection towards Curry, in which he wouldn’t be within 5 yards of the ball-carrier, even though he never even got blocked.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 am
This d sucks.. get over it. We only do well against bad offense is missing their star players.. atl was sleepwalking to their bye so stop bringing up that game.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:44 am
One day, JFB’s ‘Slomania’ will be laughed about just as hilariously as Debo’s never ending support of JaMoron was.
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Only difference, if Rolando leaves the Silver and Black, I will trash him and myself for being so stupid.
Until then, Slo-Mania rages on.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Speaking of told you so’s, wheres Amy with last weeks winning 4 teamer?
November 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
We could have added javas jones to our lb core next yr.. but NO.. thank god we beat the jags and kc.. hooray!!! Dummies
November 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Charlie Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:03 am
I think Reggie will get us the talent we need in the next two drafts but it will take that long.
About the only real keeper on the Dline is Houston.
Kelly is a decent backup but hardly worth the salary.
Reggie just can not fix it in one season.
We will get dominated by good athletic Olines for the rest of the year.
Reggie has had to cobble together a secondary, part of the oline and dline and a good part of special teams off of the waiver wire because of a decade of mismanagement.
What was created in ten years will not get fixed in one.
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I agree 100%.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:46 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 7:41 am
JFB,
Agreed on backword view. My point is that if the Raiders make a REAL effort to fix the D-Line, then you can find a decent MLB in 3rd and 4th rounds. Hell, even 2nd round.
Raiders have to look at D-Line a s a position to be built from scratch almost.
Houston has a role and Bryant is a good depth guy. The rest?
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Problem is to fix the D and Oline, one draft will not suffice. Reggie will need next year’s draft to address the D, maybe get a solid right tackle in the 1st round. But he will need one more draft to fill all the voids and there are plenty. Still need a solid safety and a real NFL corner. Still need a number 1 receiver. Hopefully he can get Greg Jennings.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I don’t get all the people blaming our line for the long runs… linemen can only do so much… especially in double teams. It’s the LB’s and safeties that are responsible for stopping the long runs. Watch all the teams that are in the top of the league and you will see LB’s that just blow that sh it up.
Or just watch when we are playing well vs the run… Wheeler, Burris, and even McClain (occasionally) are all over the field.
Yesterday they were nowhere to be seen.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Look here’s the thing with Slo.
I just can’t get behind blaming everything on him. Go look at the comments during the game.
Wheeler runs the wrong way or misses a tackle, not a peep. Burris continually gets manhandled by TE’s and FB’s, crickets. Branch whiffs, maybe a few comments but not much. McClain makes a tackle, not a peep. TK gets penalized AGAIN, nothing. Seymour disappears for a half, maybe a handful of comments.
But as soon as McClain misses a gap, you get 35 posts in 3 minutes, with people wanting to cut him at halftime, and make an example by waiving him, etc.
It is nauesatingly bias. He wears a Raider uniform just like the other 52 guys, but is CLEARLY not playing on an even field as the other 52 in 75% of this boards eyes.
Just waiting for him to mess up to hate on him, and throw out the I told you so’s.
Weaksauce
November 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
DJ Johnny,
Reality is that when you don’t have the talent, coaches can only do so much.
Seymour is too old to be a starter on inside and will be out of the league next year, unless he is willing to take a backup, rotation role with a contender.
TK has been bad for a long time, and we knew this.
I give Tarver credit for covering up the holes as long as he has.
Too many crappy free agents and bust draft picks/trades
November 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
How come you guys weren’t all over our d-line last week when we stopped the number two run offense in its tracks?
The reason we did it was because our LB’s were all over the field MAKING PLAYS.
Run defense is not a line problem… sure there were some missed tackles, but if our LB’s and safeties had made some plays yesterday, none of those long runs would have happened, and we most likely end up winning.
Why do all Raider fans put all blame on the line? I don’t get it.
The line is the LEAST of our problems on defense.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Slo sucks forever ass
November 5th, 2012 at 7:52 am
49ERS AND BRONCOS IN THE SUPERBOWL. FAIDER NIGHTMARE. THEY WONT WATCH. 666
November 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Also, when have we ever had 2 back to back delay penalties caused by crowd noise? It was so loud, we couldn’t even talk to each other yesterday!!!
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That was pretty awesome! As crappy as the D played in the 2nd half, that game was there for the taking.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
The drunk crowd was great. Glad i tuned in.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Wheeler runs the wrong way or misses a tackle, not a peep. Burris continually gets manhandled by TE’s and FB’s, crickets.
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They were HORRIBLE yesterday. But that doesn’t excuse McClain whose assignment was the middle on every long play that went OVER THE MIDDLE.
And everyone bangs on Kelly and Seymour as much as McClain, and they aren’t that bad. McClain is horrible, obviously… Kelly and Seymour would be starting on 25 other teams… McClain would start on ZERO other teams.
That’s the part I don’t get.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:57 am
what team in the nfl has worse defensive ends than the raiders
November 5th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Moore seems out of it. Running wrong routes and dropping passes every game. Not what I would have expected from him.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Who let Mike Bush walk?
This team has no balls and no heart.
This team is SOFT.
FIREREGGIE.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:59 am
One thing is for sure, the bucs have a solid offence and leaky defence. Not the same old bucs anymore.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Sports Illustrated @SInow
Doug Martin became the 1st player in #NFL history with THREE rushing TDs of 45+ yards in a game yesterday. http://on.si.com/U32Y0n
Retweeted by Paul Gutierrez
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Worst run defense in history? I say yeah.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Did anyone notice if Andre carter played?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Yes, McClain is terrible and the linebackers had a poor game yesterday. But the biggest problem with the D is that we don’t have one tackle who can hold up for 60 minutes.
Seymour and Kelly are both done. They’re passable for a while, but then they become blocking dummies. If you watch replays, both of them get stood up and pushed off the line by a single blocker — over and over and over. Teams have been running right at Seymour on key plays for the past two seasons. He’s helpless in second halves. And now Kelly is just as bad.
Desmond Bryant, for what it’s worth, makes little difference when he’s in. We need all new DTs for next season. Even San Fran’s linebackers could not make consistent plays when the DTs get blown out play after play. It happened in the second halves against Miami, Denver and Tampa Bay.
This is not an either/or proposition. The line can’t do it and neither can the LBs.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Carter got a sack
November 5th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Did anyone notice if Andre carter played?
I think he made a stop yesterday, or was flagged for something…I did hear his name though!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:05 am
LA RAIDERS 2014,…RELIEF IS SOMING. 666
November 5th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Even as a long time fan used to seeing meltdowns, I didn’t see that coming. Wow!
Defense melted down. I can’t figure what happened? This team is Jeckll and Hyde against the run. Did they load up on Chili dogs at halftime and get constipated? That Tampa rookie is good but he’s not Adrian Peterson good. He had no business putting that kind of historic game rushing on us.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:07 am
RaiderfanNY Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Yes, McClain is terrible and the linebackers had a poor game yesterday. But the biggest problem with the D is that we don’t have one tackle who can hold up for 60 minutes.
Seymour and Kelly are both done. They’re passable for a while, but then they become blocking dummies. If you watch replays, both of them get stood up and pushed off the line by a single blocker — over and over and over. Teams have been running right at Seymour on key plays for the past two seasons. He’s helpless in second halves. And now Kelly is just as bad.
Desmond Bryant, for what it’s worth, makes little difference when he’s in. We need all new DTs for next season. Even San Fran’s linebackers could not make consistent plays when the DTs get blown out play after play. It happened in the second halves against Miami, Denver and Tampa Bay.
This is not an either/or proposition. The line can’t do it and neither can the LBs.
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It was made worse yesterday when Bryant had to go to the hospital and and Bilukidi wasn’t active. They need Bilukidi in the DT rotation from here on in.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Did anyone notice if Andre carter played?
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Just saw that he had a sack/ fumble. Was in the can when that happened I guess. Didn’t notice anyone getting to freeman. A DE should be priority number one in the draft.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Wish we had that top pick now? What a waste.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Gdog
Offense and defense starts with excellent line play.
Games are won and lost on the line of scrimmage.
Period. End of discussion.
Ray Lewis threatened to retire unless they got a real DT. They drafted Ngata.
We have negelected our lines for ten years in the draft and we have paid the price dearly.
There has been no time in the history of the Raiders where fewer 1st and 2nd round picks were invested in lineman than during the last ten years.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:10 am
DTs were run at all 2nd half. Clog the run lanes, get a push.
Look @ how DMAC is getting worked over. Never a clear running lane, point of engagement is behind the line of scrimmage
Compare that to the BS we put out there?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Still, we had the game in our hands with 2 minutes and change and the ball at the 35 and offense on a tear. Tampa had no answer for Marcel Reece and EJ Biggers was mauling his receiver every time downfield. It was an open invitation for a PI call just throwing at him.
Carson’s INT was inexcusable. He needed to protect the ball and throw it away. He was facing pressure and decided to chuck if off his back foot and it went in the direction of nobody in particular. He should have taken the sack or thrown it away. Palmer deserves a huge part of the blame for this loss. No way does the Tampa defense stop us from at least getting into FG range and tying it. Palmer gave the game away on a silver platter.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:11 am
A lot of these players that have big games against us are/ were raider fans growing up. Martin had 60 friends damily in the stands yesterday.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Carson’s INT was inexcusable. He needed to protect the ball and throw it away. He was facing pressure and decided to chuck if off his back foot and it went in the direction of nobody in particular. He should have taken the sack or thrown it away. Palmer deserves a huge part of the blame for this loss. No way does the Tampa defense stop us from at least getting into FG range and tying it. Palmer gave the game away on a silver platter.
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Agreed.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Look here’s the thing with Slo.
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You do realize it’s funny that everyone knows who ‘Slo’ is, and that even his biggest fan uses ‘Slo’ as his nick, right ?
Sure, Slo gets an extra reaming in here and is criticized more than Wheels, Burris and others.
That’s bcz Slo was the 8th pick overall, and has been an epic BUSTURD.
‘Slo’ as a snail – Lazy jogger – Non-effort Whiffer – Funeral Fiasco Fool -
SLO is a natural target to get bagged on and deserves just about every bit of criticism hurled his way.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:13 am
575. True.. cp3 is a double edged sword.. sadly hes our only weapon.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Watching first take
Steve Smith is as mad as I have ever seen him about scantherat and said FIRE HIM. Hes outdated, get him out of here.
The other former baller said he use to think Gibbs was a good coach but then he realized that Gibbs was outdated.
If I recall Gibbs is the only one of Snyders coaches to go to the playoffs?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Shanarats gone stale.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:19 am
8-8
November 5th, 2012 at 8:20 am
We are not Jekyl and Hyde. We suck when we face solid athletic Olines.
Seymour is done. Kelly was never very good.
Shaugnessy is slow, and the rest are back ups.
Houston is the only legit NFL starter.
Philip Buchanon, JR, Doug Jolley, Teyo Johnson, Napolean Harris,Routt, Fabian Washington, Tyler Brayton, Derrick Gibson, Tuiasosopo, Thomas Howard,DVD.
All first and second round picks that were failures for us.
We do not have to look much further folks.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:20 am
We could have added jarvas jones to our lb core next yr.. but NO.. thank god we beat the jags and kc.. hooray!!! Dummies
November 5th, 2012 at 8:21 am
The Raiders are like a leaky dam … everytime a hole is fixed, another one pops open … the O can’t score while the defense plays well … the defense can’t stop apparent league MVP Martin, but the o scores 32 … if you looked up “frustration” in the dictionary, a picture of a raiders fan would be there … the special teams are a train wreck, just awful … I am glad DMAC is hurt … He is not a superstar RB in the NFL — he’s a good RB who needs space to run in … guess what? most NFL caliber RBs are good in space … at least if he’s out of the game, the Raiders are forced to use other offensive options … bottom line,it’s damn hard to be a raiders fan
November 5th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Carson’s INT was inexcusable. He needed to protect the ball and throw it away. He was facing pressure and decided to chuck if off his back foot and it went in the direction of nobody in particular. He should have taken the sack or thrown it away. Palmer deserves a huge part of the blame for this loss. No way does the Tampa defense stop us from at least getting into FG range and tying it. Palmer gave the game away on a silver platter.
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Agreed.
Double agreed! That one was on him! That was his one boneheaded mistake!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Charlie Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:20 am
We are not Jekyl and Hyde. We suck when we face solid athletic Olines.
Seymour is done. Kelly was never very good.
Shaugnessy is slow, and the rest are back ups.
Houston is the only legit NFL starter.
Philip Buchanon, JR, Doug Jolley, Teyo Johnson, Napolean Harris,Routt, Fabian Washington, Tyler Brayton, Derrick Gibson, Tuiasosopo, Thomas Howard,DVD.
All first and second round picks that were failures for us.
We do not have to look much further folks.
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DVD was a third-rounder, but I agree with the rest.
People don’t understand what a hot mess Al turned this franchise into. I’ll say it again: The Al Davis of the 60s and 70s would have fired the Al Davis of the 2000s without a second thought. The man really did turn into everything he despised.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Is it coincidence when Desmond Bryant went out Doug Martin went wild? Why don’t you activate Christo Bilukidi when you face a rising star in Martin? that’s beyond me.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Carson’s INT was inexcusable. He needed to protect the ball and throw it away. He was facing pressure and decided to chuck if off his back foot and it went in the direction of nobody in particular. He should have taken the sack or thrown it away. Palmer deserves a huge part of the blame for this loss. No way does the Tampa defense stop us from at least getting into FG range and tying it. Palmer gave the game away on a silver platter.
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Agreed.
Double agreed! That one was on him! That was his one boneheaded mistake!
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are you sure Dmoore didnt run the right route?yes palmer threw the ball, but maybe dmoore read should have been to go outside not in. A qb has to trust his WR will make the right read. Our Wrs are fast but they have yet to show they can think and run crisp routes
November 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
I say giving them those 2 days rest after couple of wins was a bad thing , rem we still have players from past regime so they reverted back to their old ways , they seemed unprepared out there,all god damn day long ,DTs were slow to get off the snap , we need to audition for RT position , Smith is responsible for a Int and and a TD left off the board
November 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Anybody that wants to exonerate McClain on any level, please take a look at the tape of the long runs…go slo motion; however u want to do it and zero in on McClain and give your honest, unbiased feedback.
More attention and culpability is put on him than Burris and Wheeler becuz he is the QB of the defense in his positon as MLB.
It is a vital position on the defense.
If u have a weak MLB your entire defense is weak. Such is the case with McClain.
I thought DA learned his lesson when he demoted him and then lo and behold he’s back out there doing what he does…which is NOTHING but destroying what was starting to become an average, capable defense.
With 55 out there the defense is CRAP…and HE is crap.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Slo deserves every bit of critisism thrown his way.
He is the highest draft pick on the roster on defense we have.
He gets critisized more because he is a bust. Wheeler and Burris are not 8th overall picks. They make mistakes but they go balls out every play. They don’t constantly jog around hopelessly or whiff on tackles. I swear every game I see Slo on the ground trying to arm or leg whip a runner hopelessly.
Slo gets critized more because he is a moron. He fired a gat next to man’s ear and had an ear to ear photo of him getting arrested. He is a wanna be thug. That’s why he gets critized so much. He is a notch below Jabba the Hut Russell when it comes to bust status. Get over it.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Derek Gibson
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Another case of drafting for need when the talent isn’t there. Same as jafatass, horrible QB class that year,same as slolando taken 8th in a weak LB class.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Yes it did look like he was throwing to a spot, and was under pressure…
November 5th, 2012 at 8:28 am
*ear to ear grin / smile photo of him
November 5th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Ron69 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Is it coincidence when Desmond Bryant went out Doug Martin went wild? Why don’t you activate Christo Bilukidi when you face a rising star in Martin? that’s beyond me.
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Hindsight is always 20-20. If you activate Bilukidi, then you have to deactivate someone else. Obviously, DA knows now that activating Bilukidi would have been the right move. Who knew that Bryant would miss the entire half?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:28 am
61 passes will equal a few ints..has too..
November 5th, 2012 at 8:29 am
are you sure Dmoore didnt run the right route?yes palmer threw the ball, but maybe dmoore read should have been to go outside not in
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They showed Palmer talking to krapp after that play and it liked Palmer was at fault.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Our defense gives up 515 yards and 42 points, and people are still blaming Carson for this? Unbelievable…you people don’t know jack sh** about football.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Our receivers fukin s7ck ,they can never run hot routes and can never hold onto balls when ever they hear foot steps , there was a reason Palmer threw it to Streater, be cuz that’s the only route our receivers can run, but we had momentum at that time ,play call should have been a RB draw or a screen or something
November 5th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Looked like*^
November 5th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Boss01 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Slo deserves every bit of critisism thrown his way.
He is the highest draft pick on the roster on defense we have.
He gets critisized more because he is a bust. Wheeler and Burris are not 8th overall picks. They make mistakes but they go balls out every play. They don’t constantly jog around hopelessly or whiff on tackles. I swear every game I see Slo on the ground trying to arm or leg whip a runner hopelessly.
Slo gets critized more because he is a moron. He fired a gat next to man’s ear and had an ear to ear photo of him getting arrested. He is a wanna be thug. That’s why he gets critized so much. He is a notch below Jabba the Hut Russell when it comes to bust status. Get over it.
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Right on, Boss01. I agree with everything you just said.
SlowLando must go immediately, if not sooner.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I miss my mini pin. He was a great dog and had a wonderful soul.
RIP Farón!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:31 am
My 2 cents…
1) Cant run the ball…
2) Kelly, Seymore, McLain, Branch…Wow, we need a new heart for the defense
3) Carson Palmer cant do it alone.
One of the best games I’ve watched in years, I really thought he would pull it out of his hat.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:32 am
My mistake on DVD.
When you look at it, 9 of your 22 starters are on the line of scrimmage if you play a 4-3.
Look at how few lineman we drafted in the early rounds during the last 10 years. The lowest at any time in Raider history.
Sometimes I wonder how much credit for the Raider history should go to Mr. Davis and how much should go to Ron Wolf.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:29 am
are you sure Dmoore didnt run the right route?yes palmer threw the ball, but maybe dmoore read should have been to go outside not in
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They showed Palmer talking to krapp after that play and it liked Palmer was at fault.
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I think the world of DMoore and I’m really happy we have him, the kid is gonna be something else.
Having said that, I’d bet my last dollar it wasn’t Palmer’s fault.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Go lakers
November 5th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Still discussing Slo as if there was anyone left to defend the #8 overall bust of the 10 draft. Why he is still getting PT is a mystery. He’s not any good, he’s got bad character, he’s got a bad contract with a high cap figure. Is there anything good at all about having #55 on the team?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Albuquerque, how about them Rebels?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Slowlando is gone. Activate Curry today, we need another LB in there. If Bryant is hurt we are in deep trouble, our old DTs cant play a decent half. Whats up with the safeties? Tyvon aint on Polamalu’s level, heck, there might be 30 better starting safeties in the league. he got franchise money?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Just to be clear. I’m a big Carson Palmer fan. I love his determination and he’s got that juice that you need from a QB to stand up to adverse situations. He’s shown great leadership ability and I’m glad he’s on our side.
But the loss is squarely on his shoulders. He looked like a reincarnation of Brett Favre heaving wounded ducks off his back foot instead of wisely throwing the ball away and live to play another down. That game was very much winnable and all Carson had to do was execute the offense and not get cute with happy feet gunslinging. But he couldn’t resist trying to make the hopeless play.
I mean I understand if we are out of timeouts and seconds left and we are desperate. But we had 2 timeouts, over 2 minutes left and excellent field posiiton. And Carson got careless and cost us a sure win. I think it was for sure a win. Then it up and vanished.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:42 am
You can use him as an example for the young LB’s we have.
Like “Don’t do what he does” and “Do what he doesn’t do”.
That’s about it.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:42 am
McClain, Kelly, Seymour, Shaugnessy are all in question for next season.
As I said on an earlier post, Reggie can not fix a ten year mess in one season.
Kelly, Seymour and McClain are almost sure to go given their salaries relative to production. (See Routt, Wimbley).
November 5th, 2012 at 8:42 am
But the loss is squarely on his (Palmer´s) shoulders.
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LOL. wow.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:43 am
One of the bright spots yesterday was seeing Marcel Reece ballin out there. Why he wasnt used in that capacity all year long is a mistery to me. I hope Knapp gets his head out of his cornhole and starts using him the same way.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:19 am
8-8
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6-10….7-9 if we’re lucky!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:44 am
I don’t know, I don’t think we’re even in the game, if it wasn’t for Palmer.
I’m inclined to point to the defense but whatever.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Not saying I’m defending the defense, but turnovers late were what cost us the game. It should have been a win, and it was in CP3’s hands and he gave it away.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Five glaring holes we have in order:
1.-RT: it has to be our first pick without question unless the pick is a top 5 then look for a top tackle availabe in FA
2.-CB:Insert a big free agent name here
3.-DE:maybe Carter could be the answer, the pass rushing has improved lately
4.-DT:If Star Lotulelei is there is a no brainer
5.-MLB: maybe Burris can play here if Curry has something left
November 5th, 2012 at 8:46 am
We could have added jarvas jones to our lb core or clowney at de next yr .. but NO.. thank god we beat the jags and kc.. hooray!!! Dummies DUMMIES!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:47 am
DUMMIES!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:48 am
YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:48 am
we are the worst 2nd half team in football- 1-3 when leading at halftime. jags 0-2. Meaning? i believe t kelley and r seymour wear down too easily. we saw this last year as teams march up and down field at end of games like san diego did in last game of last year……so its not coaching. part of problem is the contracts reggies stuck with- yes we are rebuilding-hey i live in houston and watched texans do same thing with a new gm…
November 5th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Huff over Ngata
DHB over Raji, Matthews the san fran linemen
Look, the problem is that Huff and DHB never materialized into “Dominant” players at their positions. Both perform like role players at best and irrelevant at worst.
If Huff and DHB were, hell, just one of them were in beast mode…it would make passing on DTs and LBs easier to take.
Then we have Mike Mitchell. Again, passed on talent to get a special teamer.
That’s why the front 7 is complete trash and utter filth. Why the D can’t be consistent and is mostly non-competitve against good competition.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:49 am
BURN!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Carson Palmer is a playoff caliber QB saddled with a poor team.
If you can not see that you do not know football.
The problems are significant along both lines though much more on the Dline.
We get pummeled by good teams and we have for the last ten years.Our coaches are doing a good job working with the line talent we have.
It is not the coaches, the scheme, the fans, the infield dirt (now gone) or the time off a bye week.
Our players along the line of scrimmage can not compete at a playoff level. Period.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:51 am
We need to focus on both OL & DL before we go investing on perimeter players. Can’t run the ball, consistently. Cant pressure the QB with the front 4. We need a serviceable MLB, not Ray Lewis, just Greg Beikert.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Just to be clear. I’m a big Carson Palmer fan. I love his determination and he’s got that juice that you need from a QB to stand up to adverse situations. He’s shown great leadership ability and I’m glad he’s on our side.
But the loss is squarely on his shoulders. He looked like a reincarnation of Brett Favre heaving wounded ducks off his back foot instead of wisely throwing the ball away and live to play another down. That game was very much winnable and all Carson had to do was execute the offense and not get cute with happy feet gunslinging. But he couldn’t resist trying to make the hopeless play.
I mean I understand if we are out of timeouts and seconds left and we are desperate. But we had 2 timeouts, over 2 minutes left and excellent field posiiton. And Carson got careless and cost us a sure win. I think it was for sure a win. Then it up and vanished.
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i was disappointed at the int too. but im not trusting that dmoore made the right read. I wont blame palmer yet for that pass. the out route in atlanta was palmers fault, this int only the players and coaches know for sure. if dmoore goes out instead of in thats a catch and a first down.
Palmer was incredible yesterday overall, think of what he is doing. Bad OL, worst running game in the league, young WRs who are fast but dont run good routes, dont compete well for 50-50 balls and dont generate separation. throw in Knapp as off coordinator and you have a horrible situation for a qb. yet he is putting up pro bowl numbers.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:52 am
I seem to recall from last spring that our own Vegas/JustFB, set the McSkinnylegs over/under at 9 for games played this season (including playoffs). Looks like 7.5 is the number.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Mark, really? I never heard a fan wanting to tank the saeaon and not try to get wins just to draft someone. i think KC just may pull that one off anyways. Even when they try, they look horrible!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Put in tp i dont want any more stupid wins.. i want a top pick.. idiots
November 5th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Palmer was getting no protection all game long. He threw those pics late because he was feeling the heat all day long. Still bone headed plays, but he got pressured constantly and once again, all those drops came back to bite in the @$$.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:55 am
We should have traded dmac last week… ts called a firesale. Thats what shìt teams do.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:55 am
SnB,
With all your analysis, the bottom line is we would be 5-3 with decent 4th qtr 2 minute QB play.
Palmer is talked about as being elite.
We traded A LOT to get this guy.
The guy we were trading for is a guy that is suppossed to FINISH the deal in games like yesterday and in ATL.
DTs, Bad Oline, Rookie WRs, etc, etc.
Had the ball with 2 minutes left, plenty of TOs, and a MONEY kicker.
CAN’T EFFIN THROW GAME ENDING PICKS!!!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 8:56 am
The top pick can turn a franchise around. Indy was crap. Now, they might make the playoffs.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Carson Palmer basically willed that team back into the game. We were once again, really outcoached in this one. After the lst Doug Martin scamper we couldn’t figure out how to stop it? If that game kept on going, Martin would have 1400 yards and 9 TD’s in the second half. It’s mind boggling.
Fake Punt? Onside Kick? Who is making these decisions? Basically, number one problem, AGAIN, is lack of pass rush. Number two: Get McClain out of there. Number three: let’s put in a running back who does not go down on initial contact. Someone who at least tries.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:57 am
nycraider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:52 am
i was disappointed at the int too. but im not trusting that dmoore made the right read. I wont blame palmer yet for that pass. the out route in atlanta was palmers fault, this int only the players and coaches know for sure. if dmoore goes out instead of in thats a catch and a first down.
Palmer was incredible yesterday overall, think of what he is doing. Bad OL, worst running game in the league, young WRs who are fast but dont run good routes, dont compete well for 50-50 balls and dont generate separation. throw in Knapp as off coordinator and you have a horrible situation for a qb. yet he is putting up pro bowl numbers.
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No doubt, without CP3, we aren’t even around to make the comeback in the 4th Qtr. But Palmer has to be honest with himself. As much as he gushes to the media about Moore, he practices with Moore and sees what he’s capable of and what his weaknesses are. He can’t trust Moore to run good routes with the game on the line. I think this game is evidence of that. I think even DHB is better in these situations. Not being honest about Moore’s limitations and trying to force him to make a play is ignoring what he sees in practice. As much as we all know Moore is the most talented wideout on the team, he’s not to be trusted with the game on the line. It’s on Carson to know this and stop forcing it to him.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Goody gets hurt every fourth carry… glass
November 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am
lol @ Tampa “outcoaching” us. They did such a good job of that so we rolled up 22 4th qtr points. They had NO answer for our short throws and screens and were getting mauled on that late drive deep in their own territory when they had multiple delay of game calls. Yeah that’s being outcoached.
LMAO
November 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Blaming Carson for yesterday’s loss is like blaming a bank janitor for a bank’s fraudulent ways. Certainly he was a menace to victory in his own way, but I didn’t see him running the wrong routes, dropping passes, missing blocks or playing matador defense against Martin.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Onside kick and fake punt…… smh
November 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Hill Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 8:55 am
SnB,
With all your analysis, the bottom line is we would be 5-3 with decent 4th qtr 2 minute QB play.
Palmer is talked about as being elite.
We traded A LOT to get this guy.
The guy we were trading for is a guy that is suppossed to FINISH the deal in games like yesterday and in ATL.
DTs, Bad Oline, Rookie WRs, etc, etc.
Had the ball with 2 minutes left, plenty of TOs, and a MONEY kicker.
CAN’T EFFIN THROW GAME ENDING PICKS!!!!!
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we are 1-7 with any raider qb since gannon.. cant blame the atl game soley on palmer..remember the prevent d after palmer drove us down to tie the game with 40 secs left?
November 5th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Onside kick and fake punt…… smh
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I wonder why. Aren’t you cheering for the Raiders to lose?
November 5th, 2012 at 9:03 am
We are too dumb to survive at this level. Need new players
November 5th, 2012 at 9:05 am
If our players knew how to run more than just go a route , you can bet we would have a called a different play on that Palmer int, we also should have called a rb draw or a screen with tired Palmer arm
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Carson palmer is number 7 in league with respect to completed passes. our best WR is 56th in the league in receptions.. Carson palmer is 9th in league with respect to passing yards. Our best WR is 33rd in the league. Imagine if Carson actually had some legit WRs to work with.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Its a team loss fellas. You cannot blame it on any single person.
Slowlondo might become a very good MLB if he has a huge run stuffer sitting in the middle of the line.
Ray Lewis had two bad years after a run of pro bowls and wanted to be traded if Ravens did not draft another run clogging center. He got another one and the rest is history.
Point is all the players have to be above average. Our entire team is BELOW average with the exception of a handful
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Im only cheering for a turn around… not a lame fùck around. This is a rebuilding yr and reggie & da need to realize it.. so does this blog… sadly its too late to firesale.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
nycraider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Carson palmer is number 7 in league with respect to completed passes. our best WR is 56th in the league in receptions.. Carson palmer is 9th in league with respect to passing yards. Our best WR is 33rd in the league. Imagine if Carson actually had some legit WRs to work with.
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Still say the play call would have been different , with receivers who knew how to run different routes, we can only run a go route , which is the reason for the int
November 5th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Giordano and Branch are to blame just as much for those long runs. Giordano whiffed on most of them, Branch could not catch up to Martin fast enough on one TD and then dove hopelessly at his ankles instead of running him down.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Its a team loss fellas. You cannot blame it on any single person.
Slowlondo might become a very good MLB if he has a huge run stuffer sitting in the middle of the line.
Ray Lewis had two bad years after a run of pro bowls and wanted to be traded if Ravens did not draft another run clogging center. He got another one and the rest is history.
Point is all the players have to be above average. Our entire team is BELOW average with the exception of a handful
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That’s true , our secondary f8kin s9cks hence, we never saw 8 man in the box to stop martin because they were worried about getting beat in the air
November 5th, 2012 at 9:10 am
All you can ask for is to be in a position to win at the end.
I know it would be nice tp hold every back to 50 yds a game.
Shut down pro bowl WRs all day.
The reality is there are some pretty damn good players and coaches in this league. There are going to be close games, low scoring, high scoring, and the likes.
Again, all you can ask is to be there at the end with a chance to win.
We should be 5-3 folks!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Safeties let a guy run past them on a 3rd and forever, how the hell do you do that?
November 5th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
nycraider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Carson palmer is number 7 in league with respect to completed passes. our best WR is 56th in the league in receptions.. Carson palmer is 9th in league with respect to passing yards. Our best WR is 33rd in the league. Imagine if Carson actually had some legit WRs to work with.
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Still say the play call would have been different , with receivers who knew how to run different routes, we can only run a go route , which is the reason for the int
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i agree, but we didnt want to bring in a vet WR for some reason. Our Wrs are a big reason we are 3-5 and not 5-3
November 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Slowlondo might become a very good MLB if he has a huge run stuffer sitting in the middle of the line.
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Slowlando can be behind the fearsome foursome and still suck @$$ out there.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
The only thing that would have helped mark is the top pick or the playoffs. Anything else only lowers the value of his team.. Attendance will continue to drop
November 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
I still like this team , because with Palmer i believe we have chance to win games , even if our receivers and rbs and rest of the team S9ckks
November 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
nycraider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
nycraider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Carson palmer is number 7 in league with respect to completed passes. our best WR is 56th in the league in receptions.. Carson palmer is 9th in league with respect to passing yards. Our best WR is 33rd in the league. Imagine if Carson actually had some legit WRs to work with.
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Still say the play call would have been different , with receivers who knew how to run different routes, we can only run a go route , which is the reason for the int
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i agree, but we didnt want to bring in a vet WR for some reason. Our Wrs are a big reason we are 3-5 and not 5-3
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Yeah, these guys give up the routes , hence why all those sidelines passes get picked off , these guys s8ck, yet some how people want to say moore will start for any other team as well
November 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Need alot of draft picks.D-tackle is the absolute #1 priority in this years draft.Need to find away to recover that #2 pick.Trade Mcfadden and Mclain.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Throw it away and live to see another down with 242 on the clock and 2 timeouts and the 2 min warning
November 5th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Marks Hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
The only thing that would have helped mark is the top pick or the playoffs. Anything else only lowers the value of his team.. Attendance will continue to drop
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we are 2 games behind the colts , 1 game game behind the dolphins and chargers for the last wild card. there are 8 games left to play. yesterday was a tough loss but im not ready to quit on the season
November 5th, 2012 at 9:14 am
TP time. Seasons long over. We can still get a decent pick
November 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
The only thing that would have helped mark is the top pick or the playoffs. Anything else only lowers the value of his team.. Attendance will continue to drop
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Can you just stfu with the top pick, We have so many holes in our team , 1 pick wouldn’t do anything , and plus you should only get a top pick if u really need a QB, but we don’t need a QB, we’re set at that position
November 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Throw it away and live to see another down with 242 on the clock and 2 timeouts and the 2 min warning
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AGREE!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
D-tackle is the absolute #1 priority in this years draft
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Hard to disagree with this.
First big run by Martin, Bryant and Houston were at DT. The hole was ridiculous.
Seymour will retire.
Kelly will be a year older.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
J Hill Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:10 am
All you can ask for is to be in a position to win at the end.
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True! CP and company have us scoring points in the fourth. Its exciting the past few weeks, thats for sure
November 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
The records dont matter……. we stink. Cant you smell it..? We are no playoff team. Its tp time. Lets get a good pick.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:14 am
TP time. Seasons long over. We can still get a decent pick
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You’re the most negative person i ever seen on this blog ever , season is over , when we were only a couple of plays away from winning again? really? you want to f8kin give up on the season to see what TP has, who may or may not turn out like the way we want, then get then take a gamble on a QB next year, who again may or may not turn out to be like what we expected, yeah lets do all that instead of stick with the sure thing and work on other obvious weaknesses around our team
November 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Yes we got ran over around and thru,but we got a stop when we needed it.Football is a game of momentum and execution,the fact that Martin gashed us for 251 was irrelevant when we got that stop and put the ball back in Carsons hands,I cant blame it all on Carson but I sure wouldnt have been mad had he caught Campbell fever and checked it down or threw it away so that we could run another play.Would any of you???
November 5th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I would not be against a DT as the 1st pick.
But we desperately need a new right tackle or center.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I don’t think he could have thrown at away, he was inside the hash lines – what ever u call them , and he got pressure on him real quick , so he thought streater would go and get it , still think that was a result of a tired arm or he got hit on the throw
November 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Throw it away and live to see another down with 242 on the clock and 2 timeouts and the 2 min warning
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AGREE!
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Palmer had 39 completions..how many times was a WR wide open? maybe 5 or 6? our receivers dont create separation. he was forcing throws all day..he had too..if he didnt make quick decision he wouldnt be standing today because his line is horrible.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
O..Mr V.P.
sorry for your loss brother.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
663. Thats the dumbest post ever..
You get the top pick in every rd.. barring trades
You can trade the top pick for extra picks.
You can use your top pick on a superstar. We dont have any bye the way…
November 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Palmer and the coaches test in now! No running backs, but Bartell coming back. We may never see Curry again, although why not? Let’s see what happens next week in Baltimore. Ed Reed may have a field day considering he now knows that we have to pass! Like I said, here is the real test to see if the coaches can so something with little!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
but I sure wouldnt have been mad had he caught Campbell fever and checked it down
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BINGO!!!
2 long passes right off the bat???
Carson was playing like we had 30 seconds left and no TOs!
And let’s not get ridiculous here and start talking about Pryor. Carson just nees to play better. 2 games outta the wild card, I believe.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Jhill,
True enough. However, carson has been playing like a top tier QB. We are picking at a couple mistakes from him that also lay at the feet of a suspect running gm and receivers that are not the complete package.
The defense is the opposite. A couple of good plays that are lost with a litany of bad and substandard play.
A strong defense and we are .500. That was one of the worst run defense performances in recent “NFL” memory. Can’t win with that
Ray Rice is similiar build to Martin and the Ravens aren’t missing their Pro-Bowl guards to injury like Tampa was.
Can’t stop the run and get cooked on playaction. Million Dollar players not making plays
November 5th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I cant blame it all on Carson but I sure wouldnt have been mad had he caught Campbell fever and checked it down or threw it away so that we could run another play.Would any of you???
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Nope. I’m all for Carson making wild attempts off his back foot under duress when the game is under a minute and no timeouts and we need a score. You take your chances and know that the odds are stacked against you. It’s entirely different in the early downs in good field position and 2 timeouts plus the 2 minute warning. You only need to move the ball about 30 yards to secure a tying FG and there’s plenty of time to methodically dink and dunk down the field for a game winning TD. And if that fails and the defense tightens up, at least force OT.
The down and distance and time on the clock and TO situation should have been on Carson’s mind to know when to eat the ball or throw it away.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
@ McFadden 20 throw it high and out of bounds n the direction of your reciever and if they hit hit with intentional grounding still had what 2,3 downs to get it back
November 5th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
663. Thats the dumbest post ever..
You get the top pick in every rd.. barring trades
You can trade the top pick for extra picks.
You can use your top pick on a superstar. We dont have any bye the way…
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Yeah , lets start a back up QB midway through the season when we’re only a game out of wildcard , that sends a pretty good message to our team , that will settle well with all the players who are going to come back next year, let’s all do that for unknown picks, who may or may not turn out to be what we expected of them , but hey lets just do that for the sake of doing that, awesome mind you have
November 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Michelle Williams. She is a fan of the raiders i guess by looking at her friends, Facebook keeps suggesting I friend her. Look her up, great ass!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
As i told you weeks and weeks ago macfadden20, i can see this team sucks.. i just know whats going to happen. So i dont care if we are only 2 games out.. we
November 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
TP time? LOL, what team do you follow? he isn’t even dressing.
This coaching staff aint pulling a Shell II, and lame ducking it. Put on your seat belt fellas, we are 2 games out of the wild card and we got a QB who can keep em close.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
with all other needs , we wont be drafting a QB ..palmer has at least 3 years left. cant believe the focus is on cp3 today..crazy.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:30 am
J Hill Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
but I sure wouldnt have been mad had he caught Campbell fever and checked it down
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BINGO!!!
2 long passes right off the bat???
Carson was playing like we had 30 seconds left and no TOs!
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A real head scratcher. 20 yards strikes when they should be raking the clock down to nothing as they approach the endzone.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
KRAWFDADD Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
@ McFadden 20 throw it high and out of bounds n the direction of your reciever and if they hit hit with intentional grounding still had what 2,3 downs to get it back
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I don’t know what really happened on that play to be honest with you , that was way off his mark , tired arm , or he got hit on the throw , i don’t know what it was , but they were just so content with beating them with deep passes and never even thought about calling a rb draw or a screen
November 5th, 2012 at 9:32 am
guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Onside kick and fake punt…… smh
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I wonder why. Aren’t you cheering for the Raiders to lose?
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I wonder why that clown is even here. He should be on the Whiner site.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Do you guys know what rebuilding means? It means your not close to contention. It means you need lots of new players. Better ones.. wakey wakey. This is not a good team
November 5th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I like the running back draw, but…
to who? Maybe Reese, but…
November 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
I just dont like endless mediocrity as much as some of you do. Ill take a 1-15 season if I don’t have to sit through another 11 years of non winning seasons.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Step one is finding a replacement back. Right there is an improvement.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Mark i do get your point on rebuilding and all that but, I don’t think I have ever seen any professional team tank games to get a good draft pick. Unless of course they are rebelling against the coach(es). But, I don’t see that as of now…so they are playing to win, whether you agree with that or not, that is what its going to be!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Seymour Bush Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Step one is finding a replacement back. Right there is an improvement.
Amen!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Boo tp we want to go 7-9!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Seymore is an aging vet of course he’s going to get tired and he has chronic knee pain that he is fighting thru but he brought toughness and experience to this team and Houston has benefitted greatly Shaunessey need to step up to the plate be an impact de
November 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Boo trading dmac we want to go 7-9!!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I am much more disappointed in Shaughnessy’s season than Seymour or Kelly. 77 really has not done much out there.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Go out and sign a 240 pound back. Those guys are tailored for Knapp’s 2 yard runs on 1st down.
Trade DMAC…who would want him?
November 5th, 2012 at 9:40 am
As Herm said, “You play to win the game!
For better or for worse we are supposed to be Raider fans.
We are covering for Dline inadequacies by throwing 8 in the box. (Branch led the team with 11 tackles) and some pinheads on this blog are criticizing our DB’s.
Tarver is mixing everything imaginable and we still get EMBARRASSED by a rookie running back.
(I told you guys scheme etc. is BS, we need better defensive players).
Knowledgable Raider fans see this year and next as rebuilding years. We have not been able to beat good football teams in a decade. We have been pathetic.
Dennis Allen has a four year contract for a reason.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
we suck again. I’ve been driving the CP bandwagon but critical mistake when all we have to do is get past the 50 for big Jano to send it into OT. I was saying how if our D keeps playing how it had the last 3, it could be the best D we’ve had since i can remember… scratch that. no way we’re keeping up with Den, that means i gotta start paying attention to basketball now, sucks
November 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
TP was a 3rd round pick who is stuck behind palmer . palmer has at least 3 years left. TP has no shot at playing. i do think we should set up packages for him for a change of pace. but the tp talk makes no sense when you have a qb playing at a pro bowl level. its crazy , palmer is the only player besides Jano playing well. yet some are calling for TP..lol
November 5th, 2012 at 9:46 am
701… you dont get it… i want tp to help us lose
November 5th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Shane did boot a long one yesterday! That was kinda missing for a bit!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I dont want to be 7-9 or 8-8 forever… lose some games get some good picks clear the cap and sign real stars.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Marks Hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:46 am
701… you dont get it… i want tp to help us lose
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your right , i dont get it..i dont and cant support losing for a better draft pick.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Tarvers d wont work without passrushers and knapps o wont work without wrs.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Marks Hair- you one of the guys who constantly wants knapp fired. I do too, but for the raiders to improve. why would you want knapp fired when all you care about is a better draft pick
November 5th, 2012 at 9:51 am
705. Your very short sighted then. Must be young.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:52 am
The only league where tanking for draft picks works is in the NBA. Teams that barely miss the playoffs in the NBA usually continue a long dry run because of middling draft picks.
But the NFL is a different animal. The only high pick that can turn a franchise around quickly is the QB. And we really don’t need one of these around here. Drafting a top college QB with Palmer’s money and cap value on the books and ignoring the glaring holes on the defensive line is a recipe for just picking another top pick the next year and on and on.
How many years do you want to suck for the top pick? A decade? How much time you got?
November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Tarvers d wont work without passrushers and knapps o wont work without wrs.
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No defense will work without pass rushers and no offense will work without wr.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Ive never liked knapp as a coach. Dont want him here next yr. It starts with coaching and ends with talent. The rest is bs.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
708. You calling others short-sighted when in fact you are just naive. I don’t think anyone is going to be able to remove the blinders from your eyes.
show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:57 am
The colts tanked on purpose last yr!!!!! Duh! They knew peyton was going to be out and they didnt add a dollar to that roster.. went with a terrible qb last yr. Got the top pick. And now? Maybe a playoff birth…. there, now you all have ‘heard’ of a team tanking on purpose
November 5th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I had the pleasure of watching newton vs rgIII in a historic ,match up of qbs, the likes of which have never been seen before today. They put on a dazzling display of toughness, and amazing talent, slugging it out over a hard fought 4 quarters. The qbs had almost identical numbers through the first half, but cam newton was just too much for the depleted over matched redskin defense. The redskin line crumbled in the 4th quarter giving up sacks and making penalties. They made perfect passes, and flashed their once in a generation athleticism and it was quite the spectacle. A new day in the nfl for sure ====================================== WHAT…”THE BABOON LOSER BOWL”….what a pathetic game it was…set the NFL back 100 years. = ANDREW LUCK IS A REAL QB!!!AND A WINNER !!!!UNLIKE YOUR BABOON LOSERS
November 5th, 2012 at 9:58 am
661.nycraider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Marks Hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
The only thing that would have helped mark is the top pick or the playoffs. Anything else only lowers the value of his team.. Attendance will continue to drop
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we are 2 games behind the colts , 1 game game behind the dolphins and chargers for the last wild card. there are 8 games left to play. yesterday was a tough loss but im not ready to quit on the season
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Only give up when mathematically you´re out, not now!.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:59 am
The sad thing is that the Raiders played better without McFadden than with him. Reece is more versatile and catches the ball better. They can draft or pick up an RB to play as well as McFadden does. If it is a high ankle sprain, his time in Oakland is done (as I assume he’s out for the season, as he usually is after ANY leg injury).
Everybody needs to STFU about Palmer. Was he out there making Doug Martin look a mix of Earl Campbell and Barry Sanders? Was he running incorrect routes and dropping passes? Was he playing offensive line and not providing any protection? I’ll tell you what he was doing…LEADING. The Raiders could have easily packed it in at 28-10 or 35-17. Yes, they lost and Palmer’s pick was a rough one, but they wouldn’t have had a chance without him leading them down the field with no running game (so Tampa’s D could sit back KNOWING a pass was coming) and with a terrible O Line (where Tampa could just rush the passer, again no threat of a run). To blame Palmer for this loss is simply delusional. Yes he threw the pick, but he also gave them their only chance to win despite being sabotaged by his O-Line, running back, defense and coaching!
November 5th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Marks Hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Ive never liked knapp as a coach. Dont want him here next yr. It starts with coaching and ends with talent. The rest is bs.
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based on your philosophy , we should tank next year too!! and maybe the year after that..
November 5th, 2012 at 10:00 am
I swear nobody can see past victory monday.. all that matters is trash talking at work. Bfd
November 5th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Wow, mornings used to be a good time to come in the blogosphere. Not so much anymore, huh?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I haven’t watched the game on TV yet but it looked like D Moore ran the wrong route more than 1 time yesterday leaving Palmer hanging out to dry.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
We have needs at so many positions i dont know why you ppl are worried about this yr.. we are terrible
November 5th, 2012 at 10:03 am
On a brighter note we will have a new pres tomorrow. One that doesn’t let 4 Americans get slaughtered in Benghazi. One that can create jobs and get things done. No more blame game and wealth distribution. Trickle up poverty and socialism have been a disaster.
Cya Hussein, POS
November 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
#Raiders run D went from 11th in avg (3.9) and per game (102.1) to 27th in avg (4.6) and 21st per game (124.1)
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Vic Tafur @VicTafur
According to ESPN Stats & Information, 197 of Doug Martin’s rushing yards came before contact. …
Pitiful – just pitiful
November 5th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Mark, that was ONE…maybe! And I think that they were horrible without Manning and they already really wasn’t that great the last 2 years!
November 5th, 2012 at 10:08 am
I still have ZERO idea why Reggie hasn’t got up off his red afro and made the call to Sterling Moore’s agent..Good god–Reggie has made some nice moves–BEFORE the season started…but his in-season moves have been crap.
Just because he’s not from the Packers practice squad doesn’t mean you can’t sign him Reg…Jesus..pick up the phone man–The Coaches and the GM tout all year long “Anything we can do to make this team better and blah blah blah..”—Not signing Moore isn’t making us better, in fact, its making us worse!
Pick up the phone dude.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Pitiful
November 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
As i told you weeks and weeks ago macfadden20, i can see this team sucks.. i just know whats going to happen. So i dont care if we are only 2 games out.. we
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Doesn’t matter if we s9ck or not , if they thought TP is some one who we can groom for future, i’m pretty sure they would have given him chance , you don’t just start using backups, even if you think you don’t got chance to compete for playoffs
November 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am
724. Just like us… no cp3 and we are winless
November 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:03 am
On a brighter note we will have a new pres tomorrow. One that doesn’t let 4 Americans get slaughtered in Benghazi. One that can create jobs and get things done. No more blame game and wealth distribution. Trickle up poverty and socialism have been a disaster.
Cya Hussein, POS
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Although, I would like to see that…Its not going to Happen–Barry Hussein is going to keep his job. There isn’t a poll that shows Rommel leading overall. Its about the 270…and Mittens is trailing..
November 5th, 2012 at 10:11 am
If NE cut Sterling Moore again, I question why? Is it because he is lost on the depth chart with a bunch of talented DBs? But by any means, it wouldn’t hurt!
November 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
ODB,
Thank you sir, and I appreciate it.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
708. You calling others short-sighted when in fact you are just naive. I don’t think anyone is going to be able to remove the blinders from your eyes.
show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.
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marks hair
November 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Many teams go to the youngsters when the seasons over mac20… im not suggesting something novel.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:14 am
It could be maybe the coaches do not like what they see in him…maybe…I believe they should put him in on some plays, but has he even been activated yet?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Just like AL huh guys? Nobody values picks.. smart
November 5th, 2012 at 10:15 am
734. No
November 5th, 2012 at 10:16 am
It’s getting to the point that even i f they win I just can’t enjoy it. And that’s what pisses me off the most
November 5th, 2012 at 10:21 am
MikieG Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:08 am
I still have ZERO idea why Reggie hasn’t got up off his red afro and made the call to Sterling Moore’s agent..Good god–Reggie has made some nice moves–BEFORE the season started…but his in-season moves have been crap.
Just because he’s not from the Packers practice squad doesn’t mean you can’t sign him Reg…Jesus..pick up the phone man–The Coaches and the GM tout all year long “Anything we can do to make this team better and blah blah blah..”—Not signing Moore isn’t making us better, in fact, its making us worse!
Pick up the phone dude.
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Sterling Moore already got re-signed by the Patriots to their practice squad.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Charlie Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 9:40 am
As Herm said, “You play to win the game!
For better or for worse we are supposed to be Raider fans.
We are covering for Dline inadequacies by throwing 8 in the box. (Branch led the team with 11 tackles) and some pinheads on this blog are criticizing our DB’s.
Tarver is mixing everything imaginable and we still get EMBARRASSED by a rookie running back.
(I told you guys scheme etc. is BS, we need better defensive players).
Knowledgable Raider fans see this year and next as rebuilding years. We have not been able to beat good football teams in a decade. We have been pathetic.
Dennis Allen has a four year contract for a reason.
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No kidding. I think the last good team we beat was Philly in 2009. God, I miss JaMarcus!
November 5th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Sterling Moore doesn’t have the playing time to be qualified for the practice squad?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Debo, I seem to remember our D that game beating Philly. mcNabb was sacked 6 times and couldn’t do crap. But yet, they still had a chance to come back and win because our O kept stalling…and that td pass to Zach Miller was ridiculous for the D’s part! That was one of the few games that the D stepped it up! Maybe because of the pigeon???
November 5th, 2012 at 10:28 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Sterling Moore doesn’t have the playing time to be qualified for the practice squad?
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Oh yes he is.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4733651/pats-sign-moore-to-practice-squad
November 5th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Palmer threw an INT that ended the comeback. W/O Palmer, we wouldn’t have even been in that position. Raiders lost for one reason. The defense couldn’t stop Martin. STFU about Palmer. This team has much bigger problems. Raiders still don’t have enough quality players thanks to Al.
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I agree with this dud. if not for palmer this would have been alot worst. 61 attempts are you efeen kidding me?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Many teams go to the youngsters when the seasons over mac20… im not suggesting something novel.
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Season is over? , wtf is this world coming up to , just 1 game back of 2nd wild card spot… if you think we’re not going to go anywhere , why do you want to start backups , our backups suck, lets find out what we got in starters and who we should keep next year and throw the rest in trash bin
November 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Debo, I seem to remember our D that game beating Philly. mcNabb was sacked 6 times and couldn’t do crap. But yet, they still had a chance to come back and win because our O kept stalling…and that td pass to Zach Miller was ridiculous for the D’s part! That was one of the few games that the D stepped it up! Maybe because of the pigeon???
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HAHA yes i remember that game. We need that pigeon back on every game.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Boss, I was asking…I thought he played more than 9 games dating to last year…
November 5th, 2012 at 10:31 am
N if our Receivers could run more than 1 route , you can bet they would have called a different play on that int, our receivers weren’t going to get open on any other route, the play call should have been a rb draw or a screen
November 5th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raiders sucked, but the Lakers looked better last night, ND is still in it, and it looks like Romney is going to win in a landslide on Tuesday….so overall, not a bad last couple of day.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Why is evryone calling on sterling moore like he is some kind of shut down corner? the guy has been realease more times than a fish in a barrel. let it go regg is not picking him up.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:35 am
What would you Romney supporters get if he wins, million dollar check from him? we would most likely be in the same situation or worse by this time in 4 years, god this politics sh1t is crazy , nobody really wins except those parties bank accounts
November 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Debo, I seem to remember our D that game beating Philly. mcNabb was sacked 6 times and couldn’t do crap. But yet, they still had a chance to come back and win because our O kept stalling…and that td pass to Zach Miller was ridiculous for the D’s part! That was one of the few games that the D stepped it up! Maybe because of the pigeon???
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Are you kidding me?? Now we’re taking away the dude’s wins as well? Every QB needs it’s D to play well. Just ask Eli, Cutler, Flacco and Big Ben. The few times JR got a little support from our decades-long schitty D, he made the plays to win the game. Clutch as hell, just like he was at LSU. And if you think Palmer is suffering with these receivers, try to remember what JR had in 2009. DHB couldn’t catch a moonball with TWO hands back then let alone one-handed circus catches like the one yesterday. Poor JaMarcus!
November 5th, 2012 at 10:38 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I haven’t watched the game on TV yet but it looked like D Moore ran the wrong route more than 1 time yesterday leaving Palmer hanging out to dry.
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I thought the 2nd play of the game could have been a TD if Moore keeps running like Palmer expected him to. Hard to tell if ball would have been on target but he had his man beat.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:38 am
In that down and distance situation, with the predictable bumrush push the Tampa DL was getting on Carson, he should have had an internal clock, make his first and second reads and if it wasn’t there dump it on the ground in front of the RB and stop the clock, and try again. After enough time has passed and the protection is gone, Carson needs to give up on that throw and live for another play. That’s 4 down territory anyway and still plenty of time to convert a play.
You throw up those late back-footed heaves when you have 30 seconds left and no timeouts. Those are plays where you pray for a miracle and expect the INT. But Carson didn’t need to gamble there.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Been hearing this same ol’ crap all day on the radio:
The WRs suck, can’t get open, drop balls.
The QB throws too many picks.
The defense is completely devoid of talent.
The running game is awful.
The offensive line can’t block.
Let the QB call the plays, not the coach – it works better.
Funny thing is, they’re talking about the Cowboys.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
744. We already know whitch starters to keep.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Debo, I seem to remember our D that game beating Philly. mcNabb was sacked 6 times and couldn’t do crap. But yet, they still had a chance to come back and win because our O kept stalling…and that td pass to Zach Miller was ridiculous for the D’s part! That was one of the few games that the D stepped it up! Maybe because of the pigeon???
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Are you kidding me?? Now we’re taking away the dude’s wins as well? Every QB needs it’s D to play well. Just ask Eli, Cutler, Flacco and Big Ben. The few times JR got a little support from our decades-long schitty D, he made the plays to win the game. Clutch as hell, just like he was at LSU. And if you think Palmer is suffering with these receivers, try to remember what JR had in 2009. DHB couldn’t catch a moonball with TWO hands back then let alone one-handed circus catches like the one yesterday. Poor JaMarcus!
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Hey what’s up Mistic , how’s Jamarcus and J Campbell doing ?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
754. At least the Cowgirls have accumulated talent on that team and the coaching sucks. We don’t have that as an excuse.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
22 yards total rushing says it all…
November 5th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Palmer threw an INT that ended the comeback. W/O Palmer, we wouldn’t have even been in that position. Raiders lost for one reason. The defense couldn’t stop Martin. STFU about Palmer. This team has much bigger problems. Raiders still don’t have enough quality players thanks to Al.
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Exactly. Simpleton fan will ALWAYS blame the QB.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Marks hair Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
744. We already know whitch starters to keep.
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No we don’t and we don’t have any back ups to start over anyone , TP isn’t even a back up behind Palmer , he’s inactive most of the games, you want to start him ?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Three reasons Romney will win on Tuesday:
1. Polls using 2008 voter turnout assumptions are very likely to be incorrect, as voter enthusiasm among many categories that turned out heavily for Ob@ma appears way down;
2. The undecided vote almost always goes to the challenger when running against an incumbent president, so a 47-47 tie with 6% undecided will go to Romney;
3. Republicans always outperform polls because they tend not to answer when pollsters call, but they still go out to vote on election day.
So you see any poll where Romney is tied or within a point or two of the president, Romney will easily win that state.
Sorry guys, this one is already in the books.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:44 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Debo, I seem to remember our D that game beating Philly. mcNabb was sacked 6 times and couldn’t do crap. But yet, they still had a chance to come back and win because our O kept stalling…and that td pass to Zach Miller was ridiculous for the D’s part! That was one of the few games that the D stepped it up! Maybe because of the pigeon???
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Are you kidding me?? Now we’re taking away the dude’s wins as well? Every QB needs it’s D to play well. Just ask Eli, Cutler, Flacco and Big Ben. The few times JR got a little support from our decades-long schitty D, he made the plays to win the game. Clutch as hell, just like he was at LSU. And if you think Palmer is suffering with these receivers, try to remember what JR had in 2009. DHB couldn’t catch a moonball with TWO hands back then let alone one-handed circus catches like the one yesterday. Poor JaMarcus!
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Hey what’s up Mistic , how’s Jamarcus and J Campbell doing ?
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I’m honored that you think I’m Mistic. He obviously knows more about football than 90% of the posters on here combined. I think I do too. And I’m sure JaMarcus is doing quite well.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
There is a stat that correlates the Washington Redskins wins/losses prior to election day. According to the predictor, if Carolina beat Washington, the incumbent wins. If Washington beats Carolina, then the incumbent loses.
Carolina won yesterday. 4 more years fellas….
The stat has been proven true 18 out of 19 elections.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:46 am
guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
754. At least the Cowgirls have accumulated talent on that team and the coaching sucks. We don’t have that as an excuse.
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Agreed. Watching that team play, talent is the least of its problems.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:46 am
The Raiders made strategic mistakes on defense which led to the big runs. They started bringing everyone up to the line and using five man fronts. This doesn’t work because if there is one crack of daylight, there is no one back to cover. Field balance is important on defense.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Inexperienced/inconsistent WRs
Ineffective run game
Defense that showed promise against the run and regressed terribly
And a QB that had to put the offense on his shoulders on a weekly basis
These are our Raiders, folks. It is what it is.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:48 am
For every 2 good reads Palmer makes, he makes 1 horrible one… At times the guy looks like a great QB, but at the worst times, he doesnt…
Wish ‘Cue’ didnt put all of RIP Al’s eggs in one basket..
November 5th, 2012 at 10:48 am
It wasnt all on Palmer though… Where in the hell were our safeties??
November 5th, 2012 at 10:49 am
764.guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
There is a stat that correlates the Washington Redskins wins/losses prior to election day. According to the predictor, if Carolina beat Washington, the incumbent wins. If Washington beats Carolina, then the incumbent loses.
Carolina won yesterday. 4 more years fellas….
The stat has been proven true 18 out of 19 elections.
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Wrong
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/20823348/redskins-lose-to-panthers-redskins-rule-says-mitt-romney-will-be-president-
November 5th, 2012 at 10:49 am
It wasnt all on Palmer though… Where in the hell were our safeties??
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good question. especially on those long TD runs.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:44 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Debo, I seem to remember our D that game beating Philly. mcNabb was sacked 6 times and couldn’t do crap. But yet, they still had a chance to come back and win because our O kept stalling…and that td pass to Zach Miller was ridiculous for the D’s part! That was one of the few games that the D stepped it up! Maybe because of the pigeon???
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Are you kidding me?? Now we’re taking away the dude’s wins as well? Every QB needs it’s D to play well. Just ask Eli, Cutler, Flacco and Big Ben. The few times JR got a little support from our decades-long schitty D, he made the plays to win the game. Clutch as hell, just like he was at LSU. And if you think Palmer is suffering with these receivers, try to remember what JR had in 2009. DHB couldn’t catch a moonball with TWO hands back then let alone one-handed circus catches like the one yesterday. Poor JaMarcus!
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Hey what’s up Mistic , how’s Jamarcus and J Campbell doing ?
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I’m honored that you think I’m Mistic. He obviously knows more about football than 90% of the posters on here combined. I think I do too. And I’m sure JaMarcus is doing quite well.
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Way to praise yourself Mistic, hahaha, and no i meant how are the QB’s you support doing in the NFL , which teams are they leading to playoffs ?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:53 am
770, I heard it the other way on the Redzone channel. Guess that’s a good indicator for your boy.
I don’t like your boy and I never will. Not that I’m all about BHO either, but is the lesser of 2 evils.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Just took another look at parts of the game from yesterday, and man it doesnt get any better the second time around.
Freeman was exceptional, breaking the pocket picking up yardage with his feet. he was smooth in his progressions and smart with the ball, and of course the deep strikes were beautiful.
palmer on the other hand was errant and wild from the start. he threw where there where no raiders, or several defenders and was lucky that at least 3 ther passes were not picked. im noticing a disturbing trend as he is now wildly flinging the ball again and has gone away fromn the dink and dunk stuff that helps him be at least decent.
Those second half ints were brutal, and not one of them was anywhere near being a complted pass to our guys.
palmer looked like christian ponder or blain gabbert, he looked lost and clueless.
he walked off the field after his final pathetic pass attempt witha badly wounded expression on his face, and his shoulders slumped like a defeated flea ridden dog. I think he knows that he just threw away the game..again, and he also threw away that shiny 13 mil he hoped for next year.
Talk about a major flop job, at home no less
freeman > palmer and it isnt close
November 5th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Woulda, coulda, shoulda summary:
Our D holds Martin to just a good game instead of a career day. We win. End of story. Defense lost this game.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Carson Palmer had nothing to do with our wonderful, supposedly improving, defense giving up 1000 yards to some no-name RB.
Carson Palmer has had nothing to do with an o-line that blows goats.
As I said before the season started, Palmer should have come into 2012 as a QB who just gave enough of a threat to throw the ball down field that it would soften things up for our running game, and in the event that we needed him to dive us down the field late in the game or in a half, then let him loose. Forcing him to throw and throw and throw, with his crap WRs and a TE who can get open but has no yards after catch ability, is just a recipe for disaster.
I would have viewed Palmer as a sort of super-game manager who could have taken this team a long ways in the playoffs had we not been forced into a one-dimensional offense.
Our season was fubar as soon as Knapp was hired and he was allowed to tinker with the way the o-line worked.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:56 am
No body even wants to talk to Mistic it’s clear as day and night he’s a racist and got a agenda, he wants a new player , preferably a black guy at a position we are doing good at and this Raiderdebo wants to come out at tell us , LMAO @ he knows more football then 90% of us , how about he’s the worst poster we ever had in here ?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Dakota Says:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/20823348/redskins-lose-to-panthers-redskins-rule-says-mitt-romney-will-be-president-
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The Alabama-LSU game says the incumbent (can’t put his name here – it’s being moderated for some reason) wins.
I guess we’d better get ready for the Supreme Court deciding who will be the President again.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
freeman > palmer and it isnt close
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Yeah um No
Let’s just look at what Freeman did. He handed the ball off to a rookie who singlehandedly gashed us in the second half. Oh boy, that sure makes him a great QB.
And let’s compare Palmer v Freeman in the 4th Qtr. Palmer owned him in every statiscal category while Freeman looked like a rookie just trying to call plays in his own endzone with the play clock winding down.
Palmer >>>>>>> Freeman and it aint close.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
We know what we have (or dont) in Palmer… When this seasons a wash, lets see what Pryor has…
Nay-sayers sound off in 3, 2, 1…
November 5th, 2012 at 10:59 am
palmers back is to the wall, he is running out of time at 3-5 and must mount a furious comeback in order to match the 8-8 season from a year ago. Im sensing this season will end much like the game yesterday and in atl, turnover for palmer. He will be gone next uyear if he keeps this up.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Just took another look at parts of the game from yesterday, and man it doesnt get any better the second time around.
Freeman was exceptional, breaking the pocket picking up yardage with his feet. he was smooth in his progressions and smart with the ball, and of course the deep strikes were beautiful.
palmer on the other hand was errant and wild from the start. he threw where there where no raiders, or several defenders and was lucky that at least 3 ther passes were not picked. im noticing a disturbing trend as he is now wildly flinging the ball again and has gone away fromn the dink and dunk stuff that helps him be at least decent.
Those second half ints were brutal, and not one of them was anywhere near being a complted pass to our guys.
palmer looked like christian ponder or blain gabbert, he looked lost and clueless.
he walked off the field after his final pathetic pass attempt witha badly wounded expression on his face, and his shoulders slumped like a defeated flea ridden dog. I think he knows that he just threw away the game..again, and he also threw away that shiny 13 mil he hoped for next year.
Talk about a major flop job, at home no less
freeman > palmer and it isnt close
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You’re the only guy who thinks that TB won because of him, you can go into any TB forum , they are all talking about D Martin who came close to all time NFL record for a RB , there are def some one in this part of country talking up D Martin for MVP of the year and all he wants to come here to say is TB won because of Freeman (SMH)
November 5th, 2012 at 11:00 am
So it’s all Carson’s fault?
Forgetting that the o-Line which can’t run block to save it’s life, is also a leaking bucket of pooh at pas protection, but he’s supposed to still make 61 passes?
Blame the QB is the work of imbiciles, about the same as chest pumping for YOUR Presidential candidate on a football chat.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
I agree to let’s see what TP has when the season is a wash! Because we all know what Leinhart has! But who knows, I always said that Palmer and Knapp do not belong together…so maybe, just maybe, Leinhart may be a better fit for this! Well, maybe not but who knows!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Pryor is going to go the entire season as a healthy scratch. And what will it mean for his development and what role does he have in the Raiders future? If they can’t answer that question right now, they should cut ties already. Why waste a roster spot on him? Cause he’s cheap? Cause he’s athletic? If he can’t develop over a season and half then it’s not meant to be. Pull the plug and cut him already.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
freeman > palmer and it isnt close
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Yeah um No
Let’s just look at what Freeman did. He handed the ball off to a rookie who singlehandedly gashed us in the second half. Oh boy, that sure makes him a great QB.
And let’s compare Palmer v Freeman in the 4th Qtr. Palmer owned him in every statiscal category while Freeman looked like a rookie just trying to call plays in his own endzone with the play clock winding down.
Palmer >>>>>>> Freeman and it aint close.
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Exactly , the guy made 2 throws all game long , D couldn’t make plays on throws ,which they could have called a fair catch on , LMAO @ the clanked ball on TB’s helmet
November 5th, 2012 at 11:03 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:00 am
So it’s all Carson’s fault?
Forgetting that the o-Line which can’t run block to save it’s life, is also a leaking bucket of pooh at pas protection, but he’s supposed to still make 61 passes?
Blame the QB is the work of imbiciles, about the same as chest pumping for YOUR Presidential candidate on a football chat.
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Exactly
November 5th, 2012 at 11:04 am
FAIDERS = YOUR LIFE. LOSERS. 666
November 5th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Part of me used to believe that if we could just get the right DC into Oakland he could mold these “talented” players into something that resembled a decent defense. That was about 4 coordinators ago.
Now I just understand that guys like Michael Huff, McClain, Kelly, Branch and company simply SUCK and we just need to flush the entire bucket of turds down the toilet and re-build it from the ground up.
It will take years to accomplish.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I don’t want to write the season off yet, gotta continue to strive. But I have a feeling we are going to look back on the late 4th qtr INT that killed the game winning drive as the turning point that ended our playoff chances. It’s a shame, because the game could easily have been ours.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:06 am
mctrolls back!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:06 am
SLAYER Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:04 am
FAIDERS = YOUR LIFE. LOSERS. 666
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So you’re a winner by posting all that ? got it
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
One thing I will say, Palmer is playing darn well this year DESPITE Knapp and all of his protection problems! Without him, who knows, we’ll probably be worse than KC! Look, Hue made that trade and Reggie has said that he will live through it! He also said that he would have made that trade as well, just not at that price! But it is what it is…the trade mabe a bust but at least we do have a QB that CAN put his team on his back! We all seen past teams call it quits after being down 18, heck, even 7…Palmer did give us that chance to possibly win that game and I don’t think any other QB that we have could have done the same!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
782.
The QB IS to blame when its his decision to throw into double coverage on 3rd down when Marcel Reese is standing WIDE open at the 1st down marker…
The O-line is much to blame as well, but nobody else can make Palmers reads, but Palmer…
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
“witha badly wounded expression on his face, and his shoulders slumped”
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You would rather him be smiling and turning cartwheels? I expect players to look and feel like sh!t after the defeat is sealed. They’re paid to win games. It should be a natural instinct to look like that after failing.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
even the most staunch of the palmer worshipers are now faced with the harsh reality of broken dreams and bungle stripped blues.
Blame knapp? knapp didnt throw 3 second half picks palmer did. Does palmer yell at himself like he trashes team mates and coaches during games?
palmer has been a a major down grade and is now struggling to distinguish his place amongst raider qbs, somewhere between jay shroeder and kerry collins. guys that throw a pretty long ball, but dont win as consistently as they turn the ball over.
Honestly i wish davis and his team were still around, they were looking pretty good, and this team isnt even on the same planet
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:06 am
mctrolls back!
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Look at Mistic on his other ID , calling me a troll , so you backed down on the challenge, we can find out right now who’s really a troll?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Palmer gavie it everything he had. DMAC, unsurprisingly, went down with injury. I expected both those things.
I just never expected our defense to get tore up like USC’s against the Ducks.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:09 am
793.hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
One thing I will say, Palmer is playing darn well this year DESPITE Knapp and all of his protection problems! Without him, who knows, we’ll probably be worse than KC! Look, Hue made that trade and Reggie has said that he will live through it! He also said that he would have made that trade as well, just not at that price! But it is what it is…the trade mabe a bust but at least we do have a QB that CAN put his team on his back! We all seen past teams call it quits after being down 18, heck, even 7…Palmer did give us that chance to possibly win that game and I don’t think any other QB that we have could have done the same!
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This is a smart man….and a Lakers’ fan….good man!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Guest: If we could have RAN the ball, it prolly isn’t even close. But that and 2 dollars will get us a cup of coffee
Too many negative yardage plays on 1st down is a major culprit in yesterdays defeat…along with a D selling out to stop the pass and relinquishing their gap assignments at LB, 2 on Rolando and 1 on Burris.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
even the most staunch of the palmer worshipers are now faced with the harsh reality of broken dreams and bungle stripped blues.
Blame knapp? knapp didnt throw 3 second half picks palmer did. Does palmer yell at himself like he trashes team mates and coaches during games?
palmer has been a a major down grade and is now struggling to distinguish his place amongst raider qbs, somewhere between jay shroeder and kerry collins. guys that throw a pretty long ball, but dont win as consistently as they turn the ball over.
Honestly i wish davis and his team were still around, they were looking pretty good, and this team isnt even on the same planet
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
mctroll20…whats your reggie excuse today?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I hate quilts…….
November 5th, 2012 at 11:12 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Guest: If we could have RAN the ball, it prolly isn’t even close. But that and 2 dollars will get us a cup of coffee
Too many negative yardage plays on 1st down is a major culprit in yesterdays defeat…along with a D selling out to stop the pass and relinquishing their gap assignments at LB, 2 on Rolando and 1 on Burri
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That’s what i feel , our Secondary is really bad , and when we struggle in stopping the pass ,like Miami and Denver games they sell out to do anything to stop them from passing and in turn we get burned on ground
November 5th, 2012 at 11:13 am
FAIDERS ARE LOSERS. YOU ARE LOSERS. PERFECT MATCH. 666
November 5th, 2012 at 11:14 am
We haven’t really rushed the ball well all year. That’s been the constant. I’m sure lack of talent on the OL is an issue. But it’s weird that the same group basically from last year didn’t have that “talent” knock that they do today. So the only other thing I figure is the coaching. They are “learning” how to use their personnel. Maybe they get the hang of it by week 13 or so. Maybe it gives a chance to win a few late season games. And then we get to start all over again with new personnel and new coaches. What a plan!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Guys, there were a couple of things that also led to a loss…wtf was that 4th and 9 punt fake throwing to Taiwan before the yard sticks? And an Onside kick? Really? Has Jano ever made a successful one? (Seriously, I don’t remember)!
Anyways, 2 very short fields knowing that our D couldn’t stop that pigeon!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:14 am
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
One thing I will say, Palmer is playing darn well this year DESPITE Knapp and all of his protection problems! Without him, who knows, we’ll probably be worse than KC! Look, Hue made that trade and Reggie has said that he will live through it! He also said that he would have made that trade as well, just not at that price! But it is what it is…the trade mabe a bust but at least we do have a QB that CAN put his team on his back! We all seen past teams call it quits after being down 18, heck, even 7…Palmer did give us that chance to possibly win that game and I don’t think any other QB that we have could have done the same!
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Money post! Hwn dropping the wisdom.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:16 am
SLAYER Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:13 am
FAIDERS ARE LOSERS. YOU ARE LOSERS. PERFECT MATCH. 666
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HAHAHA NOBODY IS CRYING EXCEPT YOU
November 5th, 2012 at 11:16 am
sure keep working mctroll20..mystic hates palmer…i like him better than jasoup…but you want to hold reggies junk all night long…
November 5th, 2012 at 11:16 am
This picture tells you everything you need to know about Seymour:
http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img20826338.jpg
Fkn walking behind the play, admiring Martin’s run, no sense of urgency at all.
Sorry azz POS.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:17 am
806.guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:14 am
We haven’t really rushed the ball well all year. That’s been the constant. I’m sure lack of talent on the OL is an issue. But it’s weird that the same group basically from last year didn’t have that “talent” knock that they do today. So the only other thing I figure is the coaching. They are “learning” how to use their personnel. Maybe they get the hang of it by week 13 or so. Maybe it gives a chance to win a few late season games. And then we get to start all over again with new personnel and new coaches. What a plan!
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That is the most depressing part of this entire season. We had a strength, and they decided to neuter it. When you walk into a situation and can only identify a couple of areas that a team is doing well in, wouldn’t you rather focus your attention on the other 75% of the team that sucks, and then just go with what is working until you have the time and assets to change what is already working to fit your perception of what it should look like?
Damn depressing.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Without Palmer we are 1-7, with losses to Pitt and Jax
November 5th, 2012 at 11:18 am
For the election
Wisconsin
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia or Florida
All that matters. Only “poll” that matters is tomorrow. Both media and parties spin polls to encourage supporters and turnout.
Sadly, domestic media is a party mouthpiece for one side or another. Need to look at dispassionate analysis from foreign media
November 5th, 2012 at 11:18 am
People crying over the Pick Palmer threw, without Palmer we wouldn’t even have been in that position to win the game , tell me the last guy who brought us back down 3 scores in the 4th quarter ?, and we have lost many games over the past 10 years , so there are enough samples to pick from , so let’s hear from Mistic first
November 5th, 2012 at 11:18 am
When are many of you going to realize 3rd string developmental QBs don’t play.Too many of you act like this is high school and college.This is big boy football and you play when you earn those reps.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:19 am
papertiger418 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Palmer gavie it everything he had
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Probably. Unfortunately, everything Carson Palmer has isn’t even close to being enough. Easily the biggest bust in Raider history! Nice guy though.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Al_is_theraiders said he will leave the blog for good , if i can find 10 people to agree with me that he’s a troll.
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:20 am
As least they didn’t lose like the titans did, ouch. That game was over after one quarter.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:20 am
is there a bigger fleece job in sports history, than the rape we sufferd at the hands of hu jack and mike brown?
a 1st a 2nd and a butt load of cash and we cant even graduates into mediocre football?
with each multiple pick performance palmer cements his legacy as the bungle reject that was left to quit, and for good reason.
Once we end up with 9-10 losses bench his sorry behind and let tp 6 get some run.
At least there would be a plausible explanation for 3m pick games if he posted one.
palmer has no excuse and watching him get his ass handed to him after every maddening loss is just boring.
elite?!/!?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:21 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:19 am
papertiger418 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Palmer gavie it everything he had
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Probably. Unfortunately, everything Carson Palmer has isn’t even close to being enough. Easily the biggest bust in Raider history! Nice guy though.
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:21 am
814.The Big Banana Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Without Palmer we are 1-7, with losses to Pitt and Jax
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Exactly….Palmer is the only one standing between us being bad and us being a laughing stock.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The knock on Palmer always has been he throws picks in crunch time, yesterday unfortunately he did nothing to discredit that. He was on his way to one of his best performances but floundered it, it seems like Carson cant lead a real quality comeback. I mean he succeeds when we have a lead but when were down late in the forth cant seem to get the win.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:20 am
is there a bigger fleece job in sports history, than the rape we sufferd at the hands of hu jack and mike brown?
a 1st a 2nd and a butt load of cash and we cant even graduates into mediocre football?
with each multiple pick performance palmer cements his legacy as the bungle reject that was left to quit, and for good reason.
Once we end up with 9-10 losses bench his sorry behind and let tp 6 get some run.
At least there would be a plausible explanation for 3m pick games if he posted one.
palmer has no excuse and watching him get his ass handed to him after every maddening loss is just boring.
elite?!/!?
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:23 am
mctroll20 whats your excuse for reggies failed team today? hows that new zone defense working? what about the awesome zbs coupled with 3 yard outs?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Dakota Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:21 am
814.The Big Banana Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Without Palmer we are 1-7, with losses to Pitt and Jax
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Exactly….Palmer is the only one standing between us being bad and us being a laughing stock.
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That being said, we are 3-5. I still think we are considered laughing stock by those outside this blog. We gave up 42 to the lowly Bucs and neutered a star RB into a scrub. Our WR’s have sucked since forever. People everywhere laugh at us even with the 3 wins.
The reality is Palmer had is in position to lead us to a 5-3 record, where we should be, and are 3-5.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Wow the final 2 drives of the game end on miserable palmer picks, and it isnt his fault??!?!
who were the last qbs to throw 3 ints in a game for the raiders?
jamarcuss russel, burce gradkowski, and palmer who has done it a mind numbing 4 times. palmer in fact has more 3 pick performance in raider games than any opfh these other on the list.
Who is noticeably absent form that list, ill tell you who. THE BEST QB WE HAVE HAD SINCE GANNON HANDS DOWN JASON CAMPBELL.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Goat of the Week
Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland. Hue Jackson traded for Palmer 55 weeks ago — but not to do what he did late in the fourth quarter Sunday against Tampa Bay. With the Raiders coming back to within 35-32 and the crowd in the Black Hole going nuts, Palmer lofted up a duck to no one in particular that first-year Buc safety Ahmad Black picked off to ice the game. Can’t do that, Carson.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/11/05/Week-9/index.html#ixzz2BNUGP9VF
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Peter King telling it like it is.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:25 am
RockyMountainRaider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The knock on Palmer always has been he throws picks in crunch time, yesterday unfortunately he did nothing to discredit that. He was on his way to one of his best performances but floundered it, it seems like Carson cant lead a real quality comeback. I mean he succeeds when we have a lead but when were down late in the forth cant seem to get the win.
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he done that twice this year , against Jax ,and Pittsburgh, Eli Manning didn’t lead his team to a win yesterday , with 4 minutes to go , so they can’t win every freaking game from behind , the other guys get paid too
November 5th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Peter King with a money post.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:26 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:21 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:19 am
papertiger418 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Palmer gavie it everything he had
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Probably. Unfortunately, everything Carson Palmer has isn’t even close to being enough. Easily the biggest bust in Raider history! Nice guy though.
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Umm, the name is RaiderDebo, and my best guess is the same day as Carsom Palmer.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:27 am
RockyMountainRaider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The knock on Palmer always has been he throws picks in crunch time, yesterday unfortunately he did nothing to discredit that. He was on his way to one of his best performances but floundered it, it seems like Carson cant lead a real quality comeback. I mean he succeeds when we have a lead but when were down late in the forth cant seem to get the win.
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Guess you missed the Pitt and Jax games.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:27 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Goat of the Week
Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland. Hue Jackson traded for Palmer 55 weeks ago — but not to do what he did late in the fourth quarter Sunday against Tampa Bay. With the Raiders coming back to within 35-32 and the crowd in the Black Hole going nuts, Palmer lofted up a duck to no one in particular that first-year Buc safety Ahmad Black picked off to ice the game. Can’t do that, Carson.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/11/05/Week-9/index.html#ixzz2BNUGP9VF
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Peter King telling it like it is.
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Wow the final 2 drives of the game end on miserable palmer picks, and it isnt his fault??!?!
who were the last qbs to throw 3 ints in a game for the raiders?
jamarcuss russel, burce gradkowski, and palmer who has done it a mind numbing 4 times. palmer in fact has more 3 pick performance in raider games than any opfh these other on the list.
Who is noticeably absent form that list, ill tell you who. THE BEST QB WE HAVE HAD SINCE GANNON HANDS DOWN JASON CAMPBELL.
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BEST QB, WE HAD? HAHAHAHA LMFAO the same guy who couldn’t even get over 20 QBR when he didn’t get help from his running game? and where is the same guy, these days ?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Yes thanks to Palmer we battled back from 18 points down to 3 and he just came up short. That would have been one of the greatest comebacks ever had he led a TD drive and the raiders won 39-35. Too bad it didn’t happen. I love Palmer, I thin he has a great arm and accuracy but like so many other talented QB’s he has been prone to mistakes at costly times. See romo, rivers, cutler. He is in the same category as these guys.
Sure he his hamstrung on a mediocre team. But he does have weapons on offence so I’m not buying that excuse. Until he can win those type of games in the 4th Q, he’ll never be elite. His time is ticking, but I’m rooting for him and still believe he can become who we hope he can.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
So Palmer is batting 2-4 .500 when he has to lead a team from behind to win the games , I’ll take that all day and every day over any one we had since Gannon
November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
2 picks for a starting QB is sure a lot better than the 2 picks we gave up for Seymour, yet nobody remembers that far back i guess.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Yes thanks to Palmer we battled back from 18 points down to 3 and he just came up short. That would have been one of the greatest comebacks ever had he led a TD drive and the raiders won 39-35. Too bad it didn’t happen. I love Palmer, I thin he has a great arm and accuracy but like so many other talented QB’s he has been prone to mistakes at costly times. See romo, rivers, cutler. He is in the same category as these guys.
Sure he his hamstrung on a mediocre team. But he does have weapons on offence so I’m not buying that excuse. Until he can win those type of games in the 4th Q, he’ll never be elite. His time is ticking, but I’m rooting for him and still believe he can become who we hope he can.
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What weapons are you talking about that we have? Our receivers can only run 1 route , that’s why he was picked on that pass to Streater, we would have called different play if we had any body who could run a route
November 5th, 2012 at 11:33 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
2 picks for a starting QB is sure a lot better than the 2 picks we gave up for Seymour, yet nobody remembers that far back i guess.
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Nobody is complaining about Palmer and Picks other than the obvious haters in here, only the obvious trolls are agreeing with what Mistic has to say
November 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
WOW…Peter King writing the ‘Bloody freakin’ Obvious’ and everyone who does’nt like Carso feels vindicated…did he mention the lack of ANY Running game throughout the whole game, even before the injuries?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I still think we got outcoached making halftime adjustments yet again.
Martin was well contained in the first half and all of a sudden the flood gates opened and the wheels fell off the run defense.
Yes we scored 22 4th quarter points, but I believe that was more to do with them letting off the gas pedal and Palmer putting the team on his back.
How do you not make adjustments to stop the run the whole 2nd half after the first 2 long runs I dont get.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
812. Good post
Pathetic pic of old washed up overpaid lineman who probably should retire after the season. Seymour has his moments, but too few and far between to be earning almost $1 million per game.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
your qb CAN ONLY do so much , the other team is trying to make plays too , but when you got guys who can’t run more than 1 route , you won’t succeed in those situations going against a D , which knows what’s coming
November 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
RockyMountainRaider Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:22 am
The knock on Palmer always has been he throws picks in crunch time, yesterday unfortunately he did nothing to discredit that. He was on his way to one of his best performances but floundered it, it seems like Carson cant lead a real quality comeback. I mean he succeeds when we have a lead but when were down late in the forth cant seem to get the win.
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“real quality comeback” Yeah im sure Peyton Manning’s comebacks pale in comparison to what Carson has done this season, pfffft. Only down 10 to the Steelers and then the Jags, wow what a resume!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I wonder if cork will answer my question about his statement of palmers validating the trade in the chat this week.
The local media guys are palmer worshipers. they have not seen the instant upgrade theory materialize as they tried so desperately to sell it.
Personally i would like to see this team go with a young athletic qb, wilson, freeman, rg111, newton, luck, the nfl is chok full of them.
no need for us to suffer through an entire year of horrible qb decisions from a 10 year failure. get our young guy ready or dratf one this in the spring and lets build around him. The palmer experimant has proven to be pure unadulterated folly, form a half cocked mad man that went of the rials. he and palmer took this team with them too.
where does palmer go next year? KC. i doubt they want him after seeing him up close. The browns maybe? but weeden is already doing what palmer does, stink out loud. maybe jax.
Smart money says he quits football and head back to his doritios and light beer
November 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I don’t think it was us getting outcoached in the 2nd half. More a case of guys dogging it and jogging it after speedy #22 after he broke contain. And safeties that decided to take the entire second half off. That’s just poor execution.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
boss01 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I still think we got outcoached making halftime adjustments yet again.
Martin was well contained in the first half and all of a sudden the flood gates opened and the wheels fell off the run defense.
Yes we scored 22 4th quarter points, but I believe that was more to do with them letting off the gas pedal and Palmer putting the team on his back.
How do you not make adjustments to stop the run the whole 2nd half after the first 2 long runs I dont get.
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We have struggled stopping the run in all the games we have struggled in stopping the pass, when our D can put pressure on QB’s in 3rd and long situations and stop the other team, that’s when we stop the run
November 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
So Palmer is batting 2-4 .500 when he has to lead a team from behind to win the games , I’ll take that all day and every day over any one we had since Gannon
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Let’s see. JaMarcus was in that spot against Kansas City and Denver in 2009.
JR: 1.00
CP: .500
JR’s the man!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Seasons over monkeys.. play the kids. We need more talent.. talent comes from this thing called the draft.. we could have the top pick. But noooo.. we like 7-9 too much.. we’re winners.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Mistic isn’t a racist, at least not in the classical sense of the term. He’s just been traumatized by racists to such a degree that he’s fixated upon justifying any member of his race as a result, which is self-defeating because he begins to succumb to the blind fanaticism and hatred that traumatized him in the first place. It’s a labyrinth, and it’s sadly understandable, but it sucks because we’re stuck with his vitriol for the rest of his life.
Just another great day in Raider Nation.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Peyton Manning blew the superbowl with a pick in the 4th…a game that I think Indy should have won. Down by 3, twice, Tom Brady couldn’t bring that team back (although yes, he didn’t thorw a pick). Aaron Rogers threw a pick earlier in the season that cost him his comeback, and even the announcers said it was ill advised. Drew Brees threw a bunch of picks in one game this year. Rivers threw 4 in trying to come back…AFTER having a 24-0 lead…
Yes I hate picks and I hate when ANY qb on my team makes those mistakes, but hey…all those guys are SB winning qbs! Let’s give them a pass right?
Palmer threw that pick yesterday and I was pi**ed as we all should be, but that game should have never, NEVER been a come from behind!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Its not like im hating or saying start some body else. Being “the best quarterback since Rich Gannon” dont mean sh!t to me if your still not winning games.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Smart money says he quits football and head back to his doritios and light beer
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Now why does it have to be like that? How would it read if someone said:
Smart money says he quits football and head back to his fried chicken and watermelon.
But let’s not go there. Your position that Freeman > Palmer is indefensible.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Gotta love revisionists. Here is what you wrote RockyMointain:
he succeeds when we have a lead but when were down late in the forth cant seem to get the win
November 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
In other news, Routt was waived by teh Chiefs today! Anyone interested?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
So Palmer is batting 2-4 .500 when he has to lead a team from behind to win the games , I’ll take that all day and every day over any one we had since Gannon
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Let’s see. JaMarcus was in that spot against Kansas City and Denver in 2009.
JR: 1.00
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JR’s the man!
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
THE BEST QB WE HAVE HAD SINCE GANNON HANDS DOWN JASON CAMPBELL.
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LMAO!!! If Campbell was still our QB that game would have been over before the 4th quarter even began.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Jason Campbell never i mean never leads us close to the score let alone give us a chance to win yesterday with no running game , and every one will agree with except for Mistic
November 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Routt just cut by the Chiefs. Now is when Al_is_theraiders and everyone else needs to tell us how Routt is this great cover corner that Reggie made such a HUGE mistake cutting…
November 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
So Palmer is batting 2-4 .500 when he has to lead a team from behind to win the games , I’ll take that all day and every day over any one we had since Gannon
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wrong sport this isnt baseball and .500 isnt good enough.
However the truth is palmer isnt anywhere near.500. he is right now trying to live up to bruce gradkowski level football.
in 18 games as a raider carson has managed palmer has managed to win a measly 7 games. In 18 games in silver and black palmer has 26 touch downs AGAINST A WHOPPING 28 TURN OVERS!!!!
that is just really bad football
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Brahs, badazz news!
Just found an 1/8 of chronic in this passed out stripper’s purse!
The Beeeech Dawg quickly hollowed out a watermelon for a bong and puffed that shizzle to the HEAD
Thinkin’ about a nap, but you KNOW when the stripper wakes up she’ll wanna ride The Lawg
Yo, now I know how Jack Tripper must’ve felt
FIZZLE
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
In other news, Routt was waived by teh Chiefs today! Anyone interested?
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Does he still have that top 15 salary banner on his website?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
where does palmer go next year?
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I’m sure Chicago would consider him a huge upgrade over their current 2nd banana. But then, I’m sure Palmer won’t be happy to hold a clipboard, like that guy is.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/55195/vick-suffers-from-poor-offensive-line-play
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For the stat geeks who really believe Mike Vick should be benched.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Your QB put up 22 points in a quarter , what more you expect? Every time he brought us a little closer , our D freaking allowed a 50 yard rushing touchdown on very first play of that possession
November 5th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Denver in 2009, JR came in for an injured qb, can’t remember his name at the moment…oh yeah, Charlie Frye, and did throw that game winning TD to Lou Murph, I will give him that! And that was a throw that most can’t make! He also almost fumbled on thrid down and was lucky to get another shot!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
In other news, Routt was waived by teh Chiefs today! Anyone interested?
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Does he still have that top 15 salary banner on his website?
LOL
November 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/55195/vick-suffers-from-poor-offensive-line-play
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For the stat geeks who really believe Mike Vick should be benched.
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but we got HOF OLINE and HALL OF RB’s AND WR for the reason Palmer should be cut for not succeeding
November 5th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Hwnrdr,
Wow! Does that mean if Routt clears waivers and gets picked up by another team, he can argue that he’s been paid by 3 TEAMS for one season of play? Amazing job, Stanford.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:50 am
These guys don’t look at more than just the end results , oh Yeah , P Manning led Den to come back win against SD, after 24-0 or what ever score , but yet fail to realize , their D did not allow SD to score another point rest of the way
November 5th, 2012 at 11:50 am
bring routt back asap…
November 5th, 2012 at 11:50 am
guest123 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Smart money says he quits football and head back to his doritios and light beer
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But let’s not go there. Your position that Freeman > Palmer is indefensible.
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really?
palmer 13 tds 12 turn overs 3-5
freeman 16 tds 10 turnovers 4-4
i would take freeman over palmer if freeman didnt have arms
November 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
papertiger418 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Hwnrdr,
Wow! Does that mean if Routt clears waivers and gets picked up by another team, he can argue that he’s been paid by 3 TEAMS for one season of play? Amazing job, Stanford.
LOL, I guess but you think anyone picks him up? NE maybe?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Tp time criner time bergstrom time streater time burris at mlb time. Seasons over time to evaluate.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/55195/vick-suffers-from-poor-offensive-line-play
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For the stat geeks who really believe Mike Vick should be benched.
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Vick should get a pass and Palmer should be able to perform miracles. Lol. Some of you can’t get out of your own way.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
What weapons are you talking about that we have? Our receivers can only run 1 route , that’s why he was picked on that pass to Streater, we would have called different play if we had any body who could run a route
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We obviously need a #1 WR. We DO have a very good receiving TE, The most versatile FB with the best hands in the league, Mcfadden & Goodson are good in the passing game. Weapons.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
#875
Shut up, Shanahan!
November 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
quack is back! cant say i missed you…we are still paying routt bring him back…better than spencer sitting on the bench…
November 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
in 18 games as a raider carson has managed to win a measly 7 games.
In 18 games in silver and black palmer has 26 touch downs AGAINST A WHOPPING 28 TURN OVERS!!!!
that is just really bad football
November 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/55195/vick-suffers-from-poor-offensive-line-play
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For the stat geeks who really believe Mike Vick should be benched.
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but we got HOF OLINE and HALL OF RB’s AND WR for the reason Palmer should be cut for not succeeding
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When did I say Palmer should be cut???? Or even benched for that matter?? But he’s playing with an OL that’s a hell of a lot better than what Vick has.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
really?
palmer 13 tds 12 turn overs 3-5
freeman 16 tds 10 turnovers 4-4
i would take freeman over palmer if freeman didnt have arms
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He only got 3 more TD’s than Palmer ?, with VJAX a legit #1 receiver and good # 2 in M Williams and that D Martin guy , who could be considered for MVP candidate at this point , realy just 3 more TD’s than Palmer with support that’s head and shoulder above what Palmer got ?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:54 am
RaiderDebo Says:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/11/05/Week-9/index.html#ixzz2BNUGP9VF
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I’m not selling Carson, like some of you seem to be. But that play is indefensible. Just a bad, bad pass. Threw it right to Black with the game on the line.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Routt cut today? Bwahahahhaha! Too funny.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:54 am
You throw up those late back-footed heaves when you have 30 seconds left and no timeouts. Those are plays where you pray for a miracle and expect the INT. But Carson didn’t need to gamble there.
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I’ll have to re-watch that play, but first glance, it didn’t look like a gamble. 1st pass was about 4 inches shy of being a completion to Streater. ON the INT, the ball looked like a lame duck. Either he lost his grip on it while in motion, or his arm got hit while throwing. Either way the ball didn’t look like it was flying right. the other side is, we’ve seen some uncharacteristic play from DMoore…He’s been out of position more than once, in this game even. Plus how many drops that were right on the money? Coulda been a number of factors on that last pick. Believe me, I was completely deflated…..But up until then I’d seen something I hadn’t witnessed in quite awhile. A QB in CHARGE; shouting orders, calling audibles, pointing out defenders, getting guys up to the line of scrimmage AND getting us in the endzone. I’d written them off in the 3rd qtr. Palmer “Almost” led one of the best come backs of the last decade. Sh*t, he made ME beleive….I roll with Carson.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/55195/vick-suffers-from-poor-offensive-line-play
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For the stat geeks who really believe Mike Vick should be benched.
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but we got HOF OLINE and HALL OF RB’s AND WR for the reason Palmer should be cut for not succeeding
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When did I say Palmer should be cut???? Or even benched for that matter?? But he’s playing with an OL that’s a hell of a lot better than what Vick has.
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Hell of a lot better than VICK ? wow , and lemme guess Moore and DHB are hell of a lot better than Maclin and the other guy i forgot his name
November 5th, 2012 at 11:57 am
new post
November 5th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Not sure why people didn’t like the onside kick attempt.
We were fresh off our defense giving up 150 yards rushing on the previous 2 plays, lol.
And we didn’t even give up any points as Freeman botched the handoff a few plays later.
Was absolutely the right call.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
What would be helpful is for the offense to come out of the gate swinging.
I HATE that it takes 3 quarters b4 the offense really gets in gear. Its ridiculous.
Maybe if this team could play with a ficken lead for a change, it would alter the playcalling of the opponent…put them in obvious pass situations…not that our talented defense is great at that. Our run d is AWFUL! Historic levels awful!
The run d was solely responsible for this loss
November 5th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Not sure why people didn’t like the onside kick attempt.
We were fresh off our defense giving up 150 yards rushing on the previous 2 plays, lol.
And we didn’t even give up any points as Freeman botched the handoff a few plays later.
Was absolutely the right call.
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I missed if SeBass did his crazy thing where he puts the ball sideways, dont like it.
November 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I love it when Cork uses the word “cobbled!”