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Bergstrom says he’s ready to roll if called upon

By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 5th, 2012 at 3:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Khalif Barnes started the first two games at right offensive tackle for the Raiders this season. Willie Smith replaced Smith the past six games after Barnes suffered a groin injury. It might be next-man-up time, with Barnes still recovering from groin surgery and Smith struggling with his consistency.
In that case, Raiders coach Dennis Allen said rookie Tony Bergstrom is the next option. Bring it on, Bergstrom said, in essence.
“I feel like I’m ready and I’m just kind of waiting for that opportunity,” Bergstrom said when hit with the news that he was unaware of at the time. “I’m just filling in wherever I can help. Whatever I can do for this team I’m happy to do.”
The Raiders used their first draft pick — a third-rounder — this year on Bergstrom. He progressed well through the offseason workouts and training camp, by all accounts, yet the Raiders were set at the five starting positions.
Therefore, Bergstrom honed his skills at guard, as well as keeping fresh at his natural position, tackle, in case he got called upon in case of injury to a starter in a game. He has not played an offensive snap so far.
Bergstrom said he has been practicing both guard and tackle, right and left, in recent weeks. Yet, he is prepared to play against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, if asked to do so.
Bergstrom said he has gleaned quite a bit from watching his teammates play the first eight games of the season. The time has been well spent.
“Oh, yeah, absolutely,” Bergstrom said. “It helps being able to see, especially seeing guys you play with all day and how they handle the competition out there. Being able to do that is better than watching film, being able to see how your own guys play out there. Every game has been a learning experience for me. I’ve tried to use it as such.”
Smith has played well at times, struggled other times. He got called for a holding penalty against the Buccaneers on Sunday on a play that nullified a long touchdown pass from Carson Palmer to wide receiver Derek Hagan. He also got beat for a sack.
“We’re going to look at things,” Allen said. “We talked about that this morning, about looking at Tony Bergstrom as a potential. And we’re not going to close our eyes and act like we don’t see things that are happening. We’re going to try to address whatever needs to be addressed.”

– Cornerback Ron Bartell said he is optimistic about his recovery from a shoulder injury that forced him to miss the past seven games.
The Raiders can activate him at any time, and Bartell is eligible to play Sunday against the Ravens. Bartell said he isn’t sure how it’s going to play out just yet.
“We have until Saturday to make that decision, so I’m going to put another good week of practice in,” Bartell said, “and if all goes well at practice, and they deem me fit and ready to play, then I’ll be ready to play.”
Bartell returned to practice for the first time since his injury five days ago. Practicing is one thing, being in good enough shape to hold up for 65-70 plays in a football game is quite another, he said.
“I made some good progress, but missing seven weeks, just not being in game shape, it’s tough to get back,” Bartell said. “I definitely feel a lot better, a lot more confident. I’ve got antoher week to get prepared, and that’s what I plan on doing. We’ll make that decision on Saturday.”

– Fellow starting cornerback Shawntae Spencer is expected to take his right foot for a test drive, so to speak, Tuesday. He hasn’t practiced or played in a game since he hurt his right foot against the Miami Dolphins more than seven weeks ago.
He said the pain lessens with each passing day. He isn’t sure what to expect when he goes through a workout Tuesday.
“I’m just pretty much a go out and wing it kind of guy,” Spencer said. “So we’ll go out, do whatever they say, and see how it plays out.”
Allen said last week that Spencer’s progress had slowed and not gone as well as expected. Spencer’s take is that he is ahead of scheudle.
Either way, Spencer has done everything he can to stay sharp mentally and from a cardiovascular standpoint.
“It’s tough to watch,” Spencer said. “Just the competitive nature inside of me. It’s part of the game. But you do what you can. You still prepare the same, as far as attending your meetings, breaking your film down, doing whatever you can to help the guys that are playing to stay in tune to help them prepare as well. But other than that, man, mentally that’s how I stay in it. Keep my routine, minus the practices and the games.”

– Free safety Matt Giordano said he suffered a hamstring “strain” against the Buccaneers. The early prognosis is promising for his return for the Ravens game.
“Luckily there was no discoloration, so that’s the biggest step right there,” Giordano said. “Now, it’s kind of, I’ll be living in the training room for the next 72 hours, that’s for sure, getting it right.”
Giordano got hurt while chasing Bucs running back Doug Martin on one of Martin’s three long touchdown runs. Giordano went down near the goal line and immediately grabbed his hamstring.
He went to the locker room for treatment but returned later and asked back in the game. Trainers talked Giordano into sitting out as a precautionary measure.
“I was trying to convince everybody that I was good,” Giordano said. “When you’re feeling the crowd and everything, you want to get back in. You want to be in there with your teammates. The trainers were telling me “be smart,” but I wanted to go in and play and definitely give it a shot to see where I was.”
Giordano faulted himself for missing two tackles two of Martin’s long touchdown runs. Martin
: “You got to just tip your hat to the running back. He made a lot of great runs. There was some (missed) tackling going on. I missed two tackles. We all missed tackles out there. Our technique wasn’t good but, you know what, he beat our technique. So, he ran hard, he played well, hat’s off to him.”

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  1. KoolKell Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Palmer is now on pace for 4900 yds.

    I know it don’t matter. I just want Mistic1 to read it.
    ———————-
    Who gives a fk? seriously?

  2. Priesttj12 Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Asking Palmer to dink & dunk all day is stupid as hell. That’s not his game.
    ============

    kell, he has been far better dinking and dunking then trying to go deep. he avoided turnover when playing the short game , we saw waht happens when he goes no huddle and starts flinging it. he looked yesterday like he looked most of last year…like trash
    *************************************************

    Totally agree with KK on this one Mistic1, Palmer may not be elite but he is good enough to win big with. Like you I liked JC and thought he never got the credit he deserved in here. On this team in this system JC would be tailored made for it. It caters to his talent. He would be sensational in this system because he would augment the runng game with short passes. Palmer wil get frustrated and take shots he shouldn’t you saw it yesterday.

    The coaches are IMO seriously at fault here due to there insistence on asking players to play beyond their talent level. This passing isn’t ready for primetime but it’s good enough to help a greta running game if the coaches would’ve kept the running game here.

  3. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Nob Minion, last week when you had your hysterical EPIC MELTDOWN (remember, everyone on the blog was mercilessly bagging on you) and you ran away promising to start a facebook page?

    Looks like the same dude behind KrappyRat’s Twitter did it for you.

    Don’t worry, even the all mighty Beeeeech Diggity Dawg is pretty sure you’re not a big enough dork to actually do something that pathetic

    I mean, you’d be cementing your “Blog Punching Bag” status forever, yes?

    But feel free to make the PMPP’s year and claim it, that would be so freakin’ awesome :)

  4. Raider E Says:

    lol who cares about yardage totals in a loss and with all the turn overs?

    —————————-

    Gotcha read the whole post

  5. Seymour Bush Says:

    zopi Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Hey, remember that Corky is the prime lover of Palmer, he just told us that Palmer is having a “career” season. Yes, with inflated stats just like yesterday’s.
    ======================================

    Inflated stats? Like his 3 fourth quarter TDs?

  6. Raider E Says:

    Seriously though, what is the deal with only being able to move the ball when we are down by 10 or more?

    Pitt game, Jax game, and now the TB game….

    Someone needs to fire up all 11 guys on O before the damn game.

  7. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    McBroke20, if you’re interested in being considered for detailing my stretch limo, please submit resume to:

    The Certified Platinum Posse
    c/o The Ritz Carlton
    Marina Del Rey, CA

    Include $300 application fee and a fresh hip-hop demo

    MO FIZZLE

  8. beechams gay lover Says:

    One time beechy was taking it for money from this old geezer he found on craigslist and the geezers wife came in. oh sweetie that was no good

  9. KoolKell Says:

    When, on almost every play, its a dink or a dunk. Of course the Defense is playing up.

  10. Seymour Bush Says:

    Inflated stats? Like his 3 fourth quarter TDs?

    Oops forgot: And a two point conversion.

  11. KoolKell Says:

    Someone needs to fire up all 11 guys on O before the damn game.
    ———————
    They dink or dunk until the games gets out of hand…..dude!

    They 3&out the whole first half.

  12. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Seriously though, what is the deal with only being able to move the ball when we are down by 10 or more?
    ====================================

    Well we have not been able to run all year. Defenses later in the games get tired, we go to a more uptempo offense and it gets some points and yardage up.

  13. Seymour Bush Says:

    They 3&out the whole first half.
    ======================================]

    Weren’t The Raiders winning at half?

  14. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Inflated stats? Like his 3 fourth quarter TDs?

    Oops forgot: And a two point conversion.
    ———————–
    Yeah, absolutely, meaningless stats.

  15. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    da has no room to talk about ignoring the obvious as long as he sticks with krappys zone blocking, tarvers zone defense and keeps curry on the sidelines….

  16. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    November 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    even D.A admits that carson sucked balls yesterday

    “I think he said this yesterday, and he’d say it again today that there were a couple of throws in that game that he wished he had back, that maybe weren’t the best decisions.” d.a

  17. Raider E Says:

    Come on Kell,

    One more 25 yard completion, a 45 yd Jano fg, and those stats mean something.

    Game of inches my friend:)

  18. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: he is the tin man has no heart.==

    Mistic, will you say, outright and for the record that Carson Palmer has no heart?

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    actually the answer is that palmer is a gutlesss turn over machine always has been. he is the tin man has no heart.

    C’mon Mistic, you said it. Endorse it. Just for us bloggers. On the record. Are you that gutless? Does the phrase ‘courage of your convictions’ mean anything to you

  19. dr_robert Says:

    Kell–we could have used some dinks and dunks instead of those long tosses on that final drive.

  20. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says: It’s “little known” because it is complete bullshid.====================================

    Some people make stuff up in here? I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you.

  21. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    i think tp6 will look good when he gets his shot. his skills are perfect for this scheme. he can threaten the edge on boots he can throw in the pocket or on the move and he is very good in the short and intermediate passing ranges.

    a little misdirection with he and reece/moore/ and dhb will be scary for any defense

    the count down is on

  22. Raider E Says:

    Mistic1.

    Take it off spin cycle, son. Your gonna wear that thing out.

  23. Raider E Says:

    Now I will get behind that post Mistic, if TP is half as good as you think he is then we are all in for a treat.

    I’m behind the dude as long as he is a Raider.

  24. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    shanahan gets it after the loss yesterday the foreskins are taking the developmental approach. the rest of the season is about developing youngsters and moving toward next year. this means guys like santana moss, and other long in the tooth players will be shut down in favor of the youngsters.

    This is what allen needs to do here, we have no shot at the post season, and are barley able above pure laughing stock status. pull the plug on palmer soon or no one will buy tickets

  25. theghostronin79 Says:

    Inflated stats? Like his 3 fourth quarter TDs?

    =========

    Of course the INT’s are deflating….But Carson is the best shot we have. I should say, he gives us the best chance to win. We were down BIG…and even I counted them out in the 3rd…. But he made a game of it. Got me on my feet in the 4th. When was the last time the Raiders over came such a deficit? I’m happy we got him.

  26. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Bergstrom says he’s ready to roll if called upon
    ===============================================
    And in other news, TP says he’d like to be activated for a game and be given just one chance to take a wildcat snap.

    Since that’s not going to happen with Krapp in charge..

    I’ll have to settle for the chance to see Taiwan get some touches this week.

    I might be the only Taiwan supporter left here and am looking forward to seeing Mr. Jones leaving some Ravens grasping at his vapor trail.

    TAIMANIA !

  27. Raider E Says:

    TP may not be ready Mistic.

    I go with the word of QB coach Difilipo for that call.

    Its not totally gone anyway

  28. theghostronin79 Says:

    Also think Reece could take some snaps at RB….Myers is developing really well; becoming solid….And starting to think T.Jones is never gonna happen.

  29. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    Who gives a fk? seriously?=================

    Probably a Raider fan. Why are you here, again?

  30. Raider E Says:

    I am with you on Taiwann 99, Ive seen him play live.

    He is like greese lighting on a sunny day.

    He needs to hold on to the ball though.

  31. inonewordraider Says:

    he is very good in the short and intermediate passing ranges.
    __________________________________
    eye test says NO he is NOT good at short and intermediate. he’s a raider who works hard and al davis final pick of course i want him to succeed but he doesn’t give us our best chance to win now and we’re still very much in it mathematically in our division. Do i think we’ll make the playoffs, NO but do i believe in quitting, NO

  32. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic, will you say, outright and for the record that Carson Palmer has no heart?

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    actually the answer is that palmer is a gutlesss turn over machine always has been. he is the tin man has no heart.

    C’mon Mistic, you said it. Endorse it. Just for us bloggers. On the record. Are you that gutless? Does the phrase ‘courage of your convictions’ mean anything to you

    Gutless? who’s gutless now?

  33. inonewordraider Says:

    taiwan should have had his last chance after fumbling the fake punt but we may have no choice with goodson going down. taiwan is good for fumbling and getting hurt

  34. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Oh, no. I was here ‘In The Beginning’. Right, kk?

  35. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    i think tp6 will look good when he gets his shot. his skills are perfect for this scheme. he can threaten the edge on boots he can throw in the pocket or on the move and he is very good in the short and intermediate passing ranges.

    a little misdirection with he and reece/moore/ and dhb will be scary for any defense

    the count down is on


    Yeah then Raiders would have great record like Carolina and Washington, oh wait NVM

  36. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    In Mo Fresh Flava news,

    Just finished up another make out session at the pool with this totally stacked German babe

    She was in town for a bikini calendar shoot, you KNOW the Beeeech Diggity got all up in that G-string, whut whut

    Now I’ve got a sudden craving for hot mustard and schnitzel, you know how them big dawgs bark

  37. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    he is very good in the short and intermediate passing ranges.
    __________________________________
    eye test says NO he is NOT good at short and intermediate. he’s a raider who works hard and al davis final pick of course i want him to succeed but he doesn’t give us our best chance to win now and we’re still very much in it mathematically in our division. Do i think we’ll make the playoffs, NO but do i believe in quitting, NO
    ===========

    lol bailing on palmer leading us to the playoffs already? hahahahahaha

    i told you that last year before he even signed here

    foolish mortal

  38. inonewordraider Says:

    mistic and gutless and has no heart which is why he’s here today but was hiding last two cp wins. cp and the d deserve the blame for the loss no doubt. i’ve been a big cp supporter but i’ll be the first to admit that he blew it

  39. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    i think tp6 will look good when he gets his shot. his skills are perfect for this scheme. he can threaten the edge on boots he can throw in the pocket or on the move and he is very good in the short and intermediate passing ranges.
    ========================================

    Uh, not right now he isn’t.

  40. Raider E Says:

    needy is the word, yeah thats it….

  41. Priesttj12 Says:

    Mistic1, You know mayne how much I love TP6 as you call him. But I want him to watch this and learn why you do certain things and not do others. The kid is IMO (and Carson Palmers)a phenom he is what you call the new wave. I call the old wave that’s been oppressed far too long. Pryor’s game is to compete like a madman, as he learns NFL defenses and the nuances of pocket passing technigue because he was never given that tyoe of training that RGIII is benefitting from. It’s not that he can’t win now but every mistake he makes will be magnified by a certain persuasion if you get my drift. He wont be given the benefit of learning(eventhough he doesn’t need 6 years) like the Alex Smith’s of the world. But when they roll him out I want this kid to be ready. Because certain FOLKS will be waiting to say I told you so as soon as he throws ONE SINGLE int.

    That said let me say this I expect this kid to do things beyond some folks wildest dreams. I think his talent is limitless and I’m telling ya’ once in there the Raider org. will reach the levels we were once known for.

  42. dr_robert Says:

    Beech admitting he craves schnitzels. Yep. He definitely loves the weiners. Does anyone else see this stuff?

  43. inonewordraider Says:

    lol bailing on palmer leading us to the playoffs already? hahahahahaha

    i told you that last year before he even signed here

    foolish mortal
    _____________
    you also said it’s all about wins and you also said it’a all about qb rating and you said it’s all about leadership and you said it’s about turnovers

    if its wins cp is better than cam or rgIII
    if it’s qb rating cp is better than cam vick russell or russell wilson
    if it’s leadership cp been praised about his leadership cam has been called out
    if it’s turnovers cp is still better than cam russell wilson or mike vick

    so you did say cp wouldn’t take us to the playoffs last year, but you also said alotta other things that aren’t correct

  44. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Anyone see poor Nob Bust?

    Last sighting was the poor goober heading for the hills, tail tucked between legs

    An instant classic!
    ;)

  45. Raider E Says:

    There are 53 men in that locker room who have all taken accountability for the loss.

    Hell, the practice squad probably feels some responsibility as well as the coaches and trainers.

    It is a TEAM gentlemen.

    Maybe none of you have actually been part of a sports team?

  46. beechams gay lover Says:

    beechy will let anyone corndog him. there was this midget Jairo who he let burn rubber

  47. dr_robert Says:

    Beech- liar and coward. No surprise.

  48. Raiderjambo Says:

    One of the glaring differences between our “D” and TB was that their open field tackling was superior, in that they tackled everything below the waist, where we were playing some kinda’ touch/flag football defense. Player can’t move if you’ve wrapped his legs up. Romac’s positioning when that TB rookie slashed through our line was awful. Reg please don’t even consider bringing Routt back.

  49. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Mistic1, You know mayne how much I love TP6 as you call him. But I want him to watch this and learn why you do certain things and not do others. The kid is IMO (and Carson Palmers)a phenom he is what you call the new wave. I call the old wave that’s been oppressed far too long. Pryor’s game is to compete like a madman, as he learns NFL defenses and the nuances of pocket passing technigue because he was never given that tyoe of training that RGIII is benefitting from. It’s not that he can’t win now but every mistake he makes will be magnified by a certain persuasion if you get my drift. He wont be given the benefit of learning(eventhough he doesn’t need 6 years) like the Alex Smith’s of the world. But when they roll him out I want this kid to be ready. Because certain FOLKS will be waiting to say I told you so as soon as he throws ONE SINGLE int.

    That said let me say this I expect this kid to do things beyond some folks wildest dreams. I think his talent is limitless and I’m telling ya’ once in there the Raider org. will reach the levels we were once known for.
    =================

    100% agreed

  50. inonewordraider Says:

    amazing how happy mistic if after we lose just so he can say “i told you how much cp sucks” i knew he’d be here today all of a sudden

  51. Raider E Says:

    Game,set, and match to Inonewordraider.

    Very nice….

  52. dr_robert Says:

    Oh beeech–I know u think saying u beat me down etc. over and over somehow bothers me. But pay attention kid. Ur a toy to me. To be played with every now and then. But no one here likes u. Nobody cares dude. Blah blah blah. Ur so boring.

  53. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    yep back pedaling form you instant ugrade foolishness. next time save your self the head ache and just listen when i tell you palmer sucks

  54. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Dr. Robert, have you presented Beeech with a show down yet? When are we going to get some more pics on your facebook page?

  55. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:19 am
    Defensive lineman Desmond Bryant was taken to a local hospital with an accelerated heartbeat

    ***

    so were a lot of Raider fans after Palmer’s INT when we were only down by 3 points with 4 minutes to play and our defense just forced a 3 & out

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!

  56. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic and priest. So glad to see when two lovers find each other. Isn’t it cute?

  57. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raiderjambo Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    One of the glaring differences between our “D” and TB was that their open field tackling was superior,
    =======================================

    and their DT’s played extremely well, they have a future HOFer in the secondary who had an excellent game, Lavonte David was an absolute MONSTER out there, Mark Barron looks like the real deal, and even the scrubs they threw in there came up with big plays. Other than that, I could barely tell the two defenses apart.

  58. mcfadden20. Says:

    So Mistic , what’s the deal with C Newton, Vick and Griffin? Is it the scheme or what?

  59. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic, will you say, outright and for the record that Carson Palmer has no heart?

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    actually the answer is that palmer is a gutlesss turn over machine always has been. he is the tin man has no heart.

    C’mon Mistic, you said it. Endorse it. Just for us bloggers. On the record. Are you that gutless? Does the phrase ‘courage of your convictions’ mean anything to you

    Gutless? who’s gutless now?

    Just in case you missed it the last three times, braveheart.

  60. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Ahh, Nob meekly returned, love it

    Goober have you seen the facebook page that the dude from Krappy’s Twitter set up?

    Pretty clever, he followed through with the hilarious promise you made while you were flaming out

    He even chose this seriously goofy pic of a skinny, dweeby, hipster dork

    I pictured you more as a plump Middle Eastern man, but whatevs. You should check it out, seriously funny

    WRECKS N FULL EFFECT

  61. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    So Mistic , what’s the deal with C Newton, Vick and Griffin? Is it the scheme or what?===========================================

    Wave of the future hit a undertow.

  62. Raider E Says:

    Mistic,

    Why don’t you admit when your wrong. This thread exposes 5 instances where you have stepped on your own d*ck, so to speak.

    At least Palmer is accountable for his mistakes. He must be more of a man.

    What does that make you, Mistic?

  63. inonewordraider Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    yep back pedaling form you instant ugrade foolishness. next time save your self the head ache and just listen when i tell you palmer sucks
    _____________________________
    cp is an upgrade over jc still not enough of an upgrade to take us to the playoffs. no matter what you say, jc would have gotten us completely blown out yesterday, against pittsburgh, and we woulda lost to the jags

  64. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    I am with you on Taiwann 99, Ive seen him play live.

    He is like greese lighting on a sunny day.

    He needs to hold on to the ball though.
    ========================================
    Yes he does. And stay on the field.

    I think he can do it.

    Taiwan gets no credit for being an excellent ST player.

    But close observers know he’s our best gunner.

    People keep talking about the fumbled reverse against SD. Not TJ’s fault, that was mostly on Marcel. Keep talking about not fielding the KO return in the same game cleanly. BFD, likely wasn’t going anywhere anyhow.
    Fumble on the fake punt – same story – going nowhere, TB had it covered.

    One handoff against TB and was swallowed immediately.

    We haven’t seen what he can do yet.

    But you’re right…he is greased lightning…he’s fluid and instinctive…and he will break out if given the chance.

    Thinking of starting a Taiwan ‘rue the day’ list.

  65. dr_robert Says:

    Albert– I told him I would come down to LA to meet him. The fb page was created so when I show up and he doesn’t, I can post a pic. Of course he hilariously started saying he knew karate, just like every scared kid at the bus stop. That was one of the best things I ever saw on the blog. He will squirm and ignore and otherwise weasel out of it. I think it’s funny when an obvious coward/liar gets called out. They just keep lying but it’s funny for everyone to see. Pretty sure it’s the story of his life though.

  66. mcfadden20. Says:

    27 -20 Raiders

  67. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Dr. Robert, have you presented Beeech with a show down yet? When are we going to get some more pics on your facebook page?

    ——-

    Bigelow, I told you, even the “Blog Punching Bag” knows better than to do something that retarded

    He’d be laughed off the blog for all of eternity, holla

    Give the poor nerd a break, hasn’t he been through enough humiliation? :(

  68. inonewordraider Says:

    dang i was convinced we finally had a good defense. it’s tough being a raider fan

  69. Seymour Bush Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    So Mistic , what’s the deal with C Newton, Vick and Griffin? Is it the scheme or what?
    ==========================================

    You mean their 8-16 combined records? Maybe they are just not very good.

  70. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mctroll20 is still here? time of day…lol

  71. MistaBrown Says:

    Racist.
    ____

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    You mean their 8-16 combined records? Maybe they are just not very good.

  72. Priesttj12 Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    lol bailing on palmer leading us to the playoffs already? hahahahahaha

    i told you that last year before he even signed here

    foolish mortal
    _____________
    you also said it’s all about wins and you also said it’a all about qb rating and you said it’s all about leadership and you said it’s about turnovers

    if its wins cp is better than cam or rgIII
    if it’s qb rating cp is better than cam vick russell or russell wilson
    if it’s leadership cp been praised about his leadership cam has been called out
    if it’s turnovers cp is still better than cam russell wilson or mike vick

    so you did say cp wouldn’t take us to the playoffs last year, but you also said alotta other things that aren’t correct
    *************************************************
    How is he better when he continues to get us beat with t/o’s? He’s no better or no worse……..period

  73. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeech, why don’t you meet Rob at the Ritz Carlton in Marina Del Rey?

  74. dr_robert Says:

    Seymour–they are broken records. They’re like the dudes u see in the city wearing tie dies and talking about the sixties. They just won’t see reality.

  75. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Mistic,

    Why don’t you admit when your wrong. This thread exposes 5 instances where you have stepped on your own d*ck, so to speak.

    At least Palmer is accountable for his mistakes. He must be more of a man.

    What does that make you, Mistic?
    =========

    mistake? i said the bucs would win because they have a better team albeit they are only mediocre. i also said freeman would be better than palmer in a shoot out and i was right

  76. Raider E Says:

    I want to see Taiwann get his chance in Baltimore, and it is looking like he just might.

    Not a whole hellava lot to lose at this point.

  77. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Shout out to the crowd at the game Sunday.
    You were really fuk’n RAIDER loud!

  78. dr_robert Says:

    Albert–that’s a great idea! Oh his little corner is getting smaller and smaller.

  79. Priesttj12 Says:

    All those are 1st and 2nd year players Palmer is 32 he shouldn’t even be compared to them yet it’s his fault that he is.

  80. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    yep back pedaling form you instant ugrade foolishness. next time save your self the head ache and just listen when i tell you palmer sucks
    _____________________________
    cp is an upgrade over jc
    =============

    what are yopu smoking folks/

    7-11 is an upgrade over 12-7??!?!?!

    laughable and pathetic

  81. mcfadden20. Says:

    So Mistic what r the excuses for Newton ,griffin, Vick and JC

  82. dr_robert Says:

    6′2″ 225 ain’t little beeech. Lol! Right now he’s thinking “how do I get outta this?” Do I get a gun? Or just continue weaseling?

  83. Raider E Says:

    you also said it’s all about wins and you also said it’a all about qb rating and you said it’s all about leadership and you said it’s about turnovers

    if its wins cp is better than cam or rgIII
    if it’s qb rating cp is better than cam vick russell or russell wilson
    if it’s leadership cp been praised about his leadership cam has been called out
    if it’s turnovers cp is still better than cam russell wilson or mike vick

    so you did say cp wouldn’t take us to the playoffs last year, but you also said alotta other things that aren’t correct

    ———————————–

    Don’t usually copy and paste, but read this Mistic and own up like a man. Palmer would.

    What are you Mistic?

  84. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Great news, Blog Brahs!

    3 of my favorite strippers from Spearmint Rhino just totally dry cleaned the corn dog stains out of my stretch limo!

    So pumped, just promised I’d get them all hella wasted on the PARTYDUDE 8000 and then perform an orgy on their private parts in the hot tub

    Probably head down to Jer Ne after the strippers pass out for some more hot tail.

    After soaking the Beeeech Lawg in a tall glass of cold margarita all morning, the big boy should be ready to go ALL …. NIGHT …. LONG!

    (Imagine a sweet horn solo right now to complete my announcement, holla)

    LIVIN’ N THE FAST LANE

  85. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    All those are 1st and 2nd year players Palmer is 32 he shouldn’t even be compared to them yet it’s his fault that he is.
    ===========

    same thing i have been saying, but these guys cant see past their undying devotion to their golden haired hero

    there is not a gm in the nfl that would take griffin newton wilson freeamn or luck over palmer right now.

    this board is a vacuum where reality has been suspended

  86. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    Racist.
    ____

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    You mean their 8-16 combined records? Maybe they are just not very good.
    ================================

    Man that holedigger Jamista Clown just keeps getting stupider in front of our eyes. One would think that was not possible.

  87. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Chiefs release Routt! LOL! told you he was taking the Jerry Porter route. One team and out of the league. He suxs! Stats Inc can eat their own shoe now! LOL, love to be right.

  88. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
    Raider E Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Mistic,

    Why don’t you admit when your wrong. This thread exposes 5 instances where you have stepped on your own d*ck, so to speak.

    At least Palmer is accountable for his mistakes. He must be more of a man.

    What does that make you, Mistic?
    =========

    mistake? i said the bucs would win because they have a better team albeit they are only mediocre. i also said freeman would be better than palmer in a shoot out and i was right
    -
    Hardly a shoot out between QBs , more like our QB versus their MVP type RB

  89. Priesttj12 Says:

    Newton and Griffin are damn near rookies would you ask the same of Eli or MatT Ryan who weren’t even close to Cam and RGIII?

    THis stuff is sooo freakin bias, how can you expect raw rookies to outplay seasoned vets??

  90. Raider E Says:

    For the record, that was no shoot-out.

    It was a runningback having his way.

    Your smarter than that Mistic.

  91. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Wait a second Nob – are you admitting that YOU created the facebook page AND that’s your actual picture?

    Please, please, please let both be true

  92. beechams gay lover Says:

    dont be down on beechy because he isn’t very large. if you know what i mean

  93. damujb Says:

    all u guys on this blog are so funny u spend all ur time cracking on each other but u act like u havent been watching this team play for the last 10 years i am a true raider fan love my team but lets be real no matter whos out there they do the same thing how many coaches have we had how many players have we had and nothing has change. i like our coach but we need playmakers and at least one hall of fame player in his prime at a skill position to compete until these things happen we will be the same old raiders. the only thing i do is pray for a savior to bring us out off the dark and believe me he is not on the team yet

  94. Priesttj12 Says:

    I would take RGIII over Palmer in a heartbeat and I like Palmer.

  95. dr_robert Says:

    Keep dancing beeech–it’s entertaining

  96. Seymour Bush Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    Newton and Griffin are damn near rookies would you ask the same of Eli or MatT Ryan who weren’t even close to Cam and RGIII?
    ==================================

    I agree. I am just making the point that mistic constantly makes which is won loss record. Anyone that knows the game knows football is the ultimate team sport and to put that completely on the Q is kind of silly.

  97. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Newton and Griffin are damn near rookies would you ask the same of Eli or MatT Ryan who weren’t even close to Cam and RGIII?

    THis stuff is sooo freakin bias, how can you expect raw rookies to outplay seasoned vets??
    ==========

    guys on this board believe that fi they agree with one another then their opinion out weighs or negates reality.

    again ther isnt a gm alive that would not take newton and rgIII over palmer right now.

    Only on this board in the vaccum is it untrue

  98. Raider E Says:

    TP just might be that savior.

    I know Mistic wil be happy, but I will be happy too.

    The only thing I agree with Mistic about is TP.

  99. dr_robert Says:

    Priest and mystic– Palmer is 3-5. Cam is 2-6. Rg3 is 3-6. Explain.

  100. beechams gay lover Says:

    beeechy dawg got paid 5 bucks to do the oppan gangam style dance on some old ladies lap in West Covina

  101. Raider E Says:

    Cam and RGIII were not available to our GM, Mistic.

    Reality, Remember?

  102. Priesttj12 Says:

    guys on this board believe that fi they agree with one another then their opinion out weighs or negates reality.

    again ther isnt a gm alive that would not take newton and rgIII over palmer right now.

    Only on this board in the vaccum is it untrue
    **********************************************
    I couldn’t agree more…

  103. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider E Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    For the record, that was no shoot-out.

    It was a runningback having his way.

    Your smarter than that Mistic.
    ===========

    both teams scored over 30 points, several passing tds, this is usally called a shoot out, and palmer shot us right in the head with those mind blowing donald hollas like picks

  104. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Beeech, why don’t you meet Rob at the Ritz Carlton in Marina Del Rey?

    ————-

    Bigelow, for crying out loud

    First Nob begged for me to chose a fight location. I did, and for some reason the Queen Mary scared the pants off him

    Then he asked about a Laker game. I party hard at every game, so I allowed the dweeb to chose one. Predictably, he packed up and high tailed it for the hills.

    HOLLA!

    I’d love to meet the poor minion at the Ritz, but obviously, he’ll run, duck and hide again.

    You know, his usual routine

  105. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic will ignore my question About C. newton ,Griffin,Vick, and JC

  106. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    True. Gimme RGIII over Palmer, Vick, Cam Newton, and Jason Campbell (even if he came with Matt Forte)…

  107. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic and priest– how about the 4 Tds? No? No mention of those? How about all the completions? No? Didn’t think so.

  108. Raider E Says:

    Come on Mistic, your Palmer obssession in unreal playa.

  109. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Priest and mystic– Palmer is 3-5. Cam is 2-6. Rg3 is 3-6. Explain.
    ===========

    whats to explain? these are 3 very bad teams.

    However rgIII and newton are much better players, with waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more talent and upside than palmer.

    Dont forget to add my boy russel wilson in the mix he leads all rookie qbs with 16 tds, and round it off with luck for good measure.

    all of them over palmer

  110. Priesttj12 Says:

    They are all on bad teams and they need to play better but they are ROOKIES how many times do we need to say it.

  111. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Palmer is the Raiders best player. Every GM in the league would agree on that too.

  112. dr_robert Says:

    Beeech– I’m coming kid. U won’t get out of it.

  113. Raider E Says:

    Palmer is the Raiders best player by far,

    With that I am out.

    One Nation

  114. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Newton and Griffin are damn near rookies would you ask the same of Eli or MatT Ryan who weren’t even close to Cam and RGIII?

    THis stuff is sooo freakin bias, how can you expect raw rookies to outplay seasoned vets??
    ==========

    guys on this board believe that fi they agree with one another then their opinion out weighs or negates reality.

    again ther isnt a gm alive that would not take newton and rgIII over palmer right now.

    Only on this board in the vaccum is it untrue

    -//

    Cam is not in his rookie year and seem to have regressed , griffin will be out of this league if he keeps taking hits , you still didn’t answer about Vick and JC

  115. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: guys on this board believe that fi they agree with one another then their opinion out weighs or negates reality.=====================

    Says Mistic agreeing with and responding to TJPriest.

  116. dr_robert Says:

    Lol! Cam and rg3 have combined for 14 passing Tds. Palmer has 13. And they are “better”. Based on what criteria? Ur opinion? U guys are jokes. But I love the moniker u coined for Palmer. “Our golden haired hero”! Beautiful.

  117. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Palmer is the Raiders best player. Every GM in the league would agree on that too.
    ==========

    the best player on a bad team doesnt mean he is any good.

    besides i think dhb now enters the conversation as the best player. he plays hard he catches he can score and he doesnt make critical errors in crunch time.

    palmer finally has realized he needs to get this kid the ball, but that wont save palmer from his own erratic right arm

    jay shroeder > palmer

  118. Priesttj12 Says:

    AS I said Vick is no better or no worse than Palmer, they’re both t/o machines. It doesn’t matter what color they are a t/o is a t/o….period

  119. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    guys on this board believe that fi they agree with one another then their opinion out weighs or negates reality.
    again ther isnt a gm alive that would not take newton and rgIII over palmer right now.
    Only on this board in the vaccum is it untrue
    **********************************************
    I couldn’t agree more…====================================

    Oh, he11, that’s even better.

  120. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    The irony.

  121. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    besides i think dhb now enters the conversation as the best player.
    ++++++++++++++++
    …and there goes all your credibility.

    Night fellas.

  122. dr_robert Says:

    Lol!!! Mistic just said jay Schroeder was better than our golden haired hero? He’s flailing now!

  123. Priesttj12 Says:

    Palmer has to play better to get the credit y’all want to heap on him. I wish I could say he was elite but he aint..period

  124. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    YO LAKE SHOW HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT

    Dang Dawgs, now is the time to High 5 our way to championship VICTORY

    Got an easy win last night over the Pis-dumbs (get it, sweet word play on Pistons) and now the boyz are fired up to emit ALL STAR defensive presence

    First we take the Pacific, then it’s time to hang #17 in the Mecca of NBA Hoops – Staples Center

    You KNOW the Lexus Luxury Box will be hoppin’ in 2012, word up to Snoop Lion

    RASTA ON THE MOUNTAINTOP

  125. Priesttj12 Says:

    Jay had a winning record……..just saying!

  126. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Lol! Cam and rg3 have combined for 14 passing Tds. Palmer has 13. And they are “better”. Based on what criteria? Ur opinion? U guys are jokes. But I love the moniker u coined for Palmer. “Our golden haired hero”! Beautiful.
    ==============

    cam has 10 tds ( 4 rushing)

    rgIII has 14 (6 rushing)

    yep i would take them over palmer so would every nfl owner and gm with functioning eyeballs and brains

  127. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic wasn’t even born when Jay Schroeder played. You get that courage up yet, Mistic?

  128. Seymour Bush Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    Newton and Griffin are damn near rookies would you ask the same of Eli or MatT Ryan who weren’t even close to Cam and RGIII?
    ================================

    Of course Andrew Luck is 5-3 has his team in the playoff hunt and just threw for a rookie passing record yesterday. But, hey, what do we know?

  129. dr_robert Says:

    Cam and rg3 = 14 Tds combined.
    Palmer = 13 Tds by himself.

    Explain.

  130. Priesttj12 Says:

    I love Andrew Luck and his talent I think he will win at least 2-3 SB’s this aint about white and black folks ………………although you’re trying hard to make it so.

  131. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Mistic wasn’t even born when Jay Schroeder played. You get that courage up yet, Mistic?
    ===========

    i had the misfortune of watching shroeder and marc wilson

    palmer is in thier class a a raider, slightly better than rick mirer

  132. dr_robert Says:

    We’re talking about passing boys. Unless ur admitting that black qb’s are better rb’s than qb’s. lol!

    Haha. I’m not saying that. I like cam and rg3 just fine. I like tp too. But Palmer is “our golden haired hero”. Thanks for that one by the way.

  133. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol at shoot out. I see the propaganda machine is nearly overheating.

  134. Priesttj12 Says:

    You can’t make someone elite just because you want them to be they have to demonstrate that on Sunday’s or it just doesn’t wash.

  135. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I love Andrew Luck and his talent I think he will win at least 2-3 SB’s this aint about white and black folks ………………although you’re trying hard to make it so.
    =============

    i had him no.2 on my board behind rgIII, and the kid has not disappointed.

    he is a fantastic player and fun to watch

  136. dr_robert Says:

    Music– ur making a complete azz out of urself now. Slightly better than mirer. Same class as Schroeder and Wilson. Ur just moronic. There is no talking sense to an idiot.

  137. The Big Banana Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    I love Andrew Luck and his talent I think he will win at least 2-3 SB’s this aint about white and black folks ………………although you’re trying hard to make it so.

    —–

    Not to you, it isn’t. Another poster in here didn’t even have Luck in his top 5 QBs from this year’s draft.

  138. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Cam and rg3 = 14 Tds combined.
    Palmer = 13 Tds by himself.

    Explain.
    ==============

    math isnt your strong suite is it? RgIII and cam combine for 24 total tds 10 for cam 14 for rgIII

    palmer isnt on the same planet with these two

  139. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    I would take RGIII over Palmer in a heartbeat and I like Palmer.
    ================================================
    So would I.

    But you’re also the guy that would take Mike Vick over John Elway. You were also the last guy to finally accept that JaMoron was a complete turd and was going to get released, and probably never take another snap in the NFL.

    So based on your QB evaluating skills, I’m concerned that I agree with you.

    But since I’m in the mood to start a blog fight and don’t mind getting flamed…

    I’m going to go on record and say that I’d take Kim Newton over Carson Palmer.

    If I was a GM, I’d make that trade in a heartbeat.

    Flame away.

  140. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic will even talk about palmers near ints but will never talk about the TD called back due to first half ,perfect throw to Streater in the end zone he dropped ,that doesn’t matter ,or all the wrong routes receivers run ,he should have had 6 TDs but no he will always minimize his positive and even count the near Ints , what a retard SMH

  141. Plunketthead Says:

    Beech
    The Spearmint strippers should have a benefit car wash. They can raise 10 grand in two hours.
    Then they can use the money to pay dr nob to show up for the big event.
    Otherwise the dweeb wont show up

  142. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    You can’t make someone elite just because you want them to be they have to demonstrate that on Sunday’s or it just doesn’t wash.
    ===============

    to date palmer has not lived up to the hype as a raider last year 16 picks in 9 games and out of the playoffs.

    this year 13 tds and 12 turnovers headed out of the playoffs

    he may be elite fanatsy football yardage guy, but that is about it.

    he is neil lomax, couple of eye popping statistical seasons the rest of the career mired in failure

  143. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, just ruined a perfectly awesome tub of Rocky Road

    Finished porking the 3 strippers and the Beeech Lawg was still totally pumped up and ready for mas (more in spanish)

    Unfortunately I won’t be able to hump more hizzies until a I pick a few up from Jer Ne later tonight, holla

    So I jammed the Lawg into the nearest carton of ice cream. Man, you shoulda seen the steam

    Anyway I think the Big Dawg is cooled down and ready to watch last week’s Animal Practice on DVR, word

  144. dr_robert Says:

    Hey Albert– I figured out beech’s plan. He’s already planting the seeds. When he doesn’t show up when I go there, he will claim I didn’t show so many times, he can’t be expected to show up every time. He’s too busy macking. Of course he was the one who comically suggested the queen Mary for a fight. Then I suggested a lakers game. Of course we never agreed to a time and place. So he’s getting nowhere. I will announce to the board when I am going to LA. I’m thinking of doing it for the notre dame-USC game. The Irish should be undefeated and I’m a huge fan. How much u wanna bet that mr. Karate will be “touring” at that time?

  145. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Lol at shoot out. I see the propaganda machine is nearly overheating.
    =============

    when is 42-32 not a shoot out? oh because palmer ended the last two drives with ungodly picks?

  146. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    I’m going to go on record and say that I’d take Kim Newton over Carson Palmer.
    If I was a GM, I’d make that trade in a heartbeat.
    Flame away.==================================================

    No flame. Just thankful you’re not GM. Rather ride Palmer 3-5 years, get a better feel for TPryor and play it by ear depending on TP.

  147. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Newton and Griffin are damn near rookies would you ask the same of Eli or MatT Ryan who weren’t even close to Cam and RGIII?

    THis stuff is sooo freakin bias, how can you expect raw rookies to outplay seasoned vets??
    ==========

    guys on this board believe that fi they agree with one another then their opinion out weighs or negates reality.

    again ther isnt a gm alive that would not take newton and rgIII over palmer right now.

    Only on this board in the vaccum is it untrue

    Which owner. Or GM you personally talked to , said that ?

  148. Priesttj12 Says:

    The same Joh Elway who led the NFL in ints. one year who took 5 years to learn to read NFL defenses who used hius athletic ability as much as Cam Newton to win. Elway won very ugly BUT he won Elway will never be mistaken for an elite passer but he was a tremendous QB. Vick when he is right and he hasn’t been this or last year very much they compare favorably. Vick is just a bit too undersized for his own good. He should be much better but has regressed regretably.

  149. The Big Banana Says:

    If Freeman only got 19 yards out of his RBs yesterday, TB loses. That’s a fact.

  150. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Excellent suggestion, Plunk Brah

    btw did you see the facebook page the dude from Krappy’s Twitter did?

    Totally hilarious, the profile pic he chose is of some malnourished hipster dork in uni-bomber shades

    That guy is a straight up genius, whatta roast on poor Nob

  151. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Dr. Robert, I’ll get my popcorn ready.

  152. The Big Banana Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    The Big Banana Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Lol at shoot out. I see the propaganda machine is nearly overheating.
    =============

    when is 42-32 not a shoot out? oh because palmer ended the last two drives with ungodly picks?

    ——

    When the other team has more rushing yards than passing and his counterpart has twice as many attempts. Shoot out? He11 no.

  153. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    jay shcroeder was worlds better than palmer, he took the riders to the afc championship, and the foreskins to the nfc championship before that.

    The only way palmer gets any where near the championship round of post season is if he takes a job as stadium security or a peanut vendor

    schroedr> palmer

  154. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic doesn’t understand , it was not shoot out between Qb’s where they were trying to out do each other with their arms, Freeman had only 2 TDs ,Palmer had 4 but should have been 6 , if you count the missed TD pass called back , and thing else ,Palmer led freeman in every category ,Ints happen when 1 guy is trying to score in obvious passing situations to average receivers

  155. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    The same Joh Elway who led the NFL in ints. one year who took 5 years to learn to read NFL defenses who used hius athletic ability as much as Cam Newton to win. Elway won very ugly BUT he won Elway will never be mistaken for an elite passer but he was a tremendous QB. Vick when he is right and he hasn’t been this or last year very much they compare favorably. Vick is just a bit too undersized for his own good. He should be much better but has regressed regretably.
    ==============

    eagle 7 has suffered the worst o line in football the last two years running. give him just mediocre blocking and he returns to pro bowl form

  156. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Hey Albert– I figured out beech’s plan. He’s already planting the seeds. When he doesn’t show up when I go there, he will claim I didn’t show so many times, he can’t be expected to show up every time. He’s too busy macking. Of course he was the one who comically suggested the queen Mary for a fight. Then I suggested a lakers game. Of course we never agreed to a time and place. So he’s getting nowhere. I will announce to the board when I am going to LA. I’m thinking of doing it for the notre dame-USC game. The Irish should be undefeated and I’m a huge fan. How much u wanna bet that mr. Karate will be “touring” at that time?

    ————-

    Scrambling, head on a swivel, face plant, MELTDOWN

    Thanks for all the laughs, Nob. The pleasure is all ours! :)

  157. Priesttj12 Says:

    Vicks’s int to TD ratio is not bad but for some reason he’s gone backwards fast which is very puzzling. But it gives the haters all the ammunition they need.

  158. mcfadden20. Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    If Freeman only got 19 yards out of his RBs yesterday, TB loses. That’s a fact.

    —–

    Don’t use common sense with Mistic , rem that’s not what he goes by , he goes by what he thinks is right and what’s not right , but those right and wrongs Change depend on which QB are we talking about with Mistic

  159. Maxzombie Says:

    You need a few smart guys on the field to remind the stupid ones what they are supposed to be doing.

  160. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    now these sad losers want to quibble over the definition of shoot out, when it is widely used to denote a high scoring game.

    all this because you dont want to admit that palmer shot us right out of the game with his moronic late picks?

  161. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: when is 42-32 not a shoot out? ==

    When one of the QBs completes a pedestrian 18 passes.

  162. Priesttj12 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    The same Joh Elway who led the NFL in ints. one year who took 5 years to learn to read NFL defenses who used hius athletic ability as much as Cam Newton to win. Elway won very ugly BUT he won Elway will never be mistaken for an elite passer but he was a tremendous QB. Vick when he is right and he hasn’t been this or last year very much they compare favorably. Vick is just a bit too undersized for his own good. He should be much better but has regressed regretably.
    ==============

    eagle 7 has suffered the worst o line in football the last two years running. give him just mediocre blocking and he returns to pro bowl form
    ************************************************
    I know Mistic1 but it gives the black QB haters all the ammunition they need. You know they expect black QB’s to do it regardless.

  163. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    jay shcroeder was worlds better than palmer, he took the riders to the afc championship, and the foreskins to the nfc championship before that.

    The only way palmer gets any where near the championship round of post season is if he takes a job as stadium security or a peanut vendor

    schroedr> palmer
    ———-
    SMH

  164. Plunketthead Says:

    Eagle 7? I call foul
    His name is and always be Vick the dog killer

  165. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    istic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    jay shcroeder was worlds better than palmer, he took the riders to the afc championship, and the foreskins to the nfc championship before that.

    The only way palmer gets any where near the championship round of post season is if he takes a job as stadium security or a peanut vendor

    schroedr> palmer

  166. inonewordraider Says:

    what are yopu smoking folks/

    7-11 is an upgrade over 12-7??!?!?!

    laughable and pathetic
    __________
    there’s no use arguing you because of wins and losses is the only statistic that matters then cp is better than rgIII and cam and of course you wouldn’t agree with that. I’d say gm’s no more than us most the time right? that’s why jc and joe webb are on the bench and troy smith is out of the league but carson palmer is as starter in the league

  167. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: when is 42-32 not a shoot out? ==

    When one of the QBs completes a pedestrian 18 passes.
    ===============

    actually it only demonstrates how incredibly efficient freeman was yetsreday. he didnt need to throw a ton to kame the most of his passing opportunities.

    he was much like jc was for us last year. in fact freeman is very much like jc only a little bigger a little more athletic and not quite as patient, but he is getting there.

    easily one of the most improved players this year and candidate for come back layer of the year under manning

  168. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic, will you say, outright and for the record that Carson Palmer has no heart?

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    actually the answer is that palmer is a gutlesss turn over machine always has been. he is the tin man has no heart.

    C’mon Mistic, you said it. Endorse it. Just for us bloggers. On the record. Are you that gutless? Does the phrase ‘courage of your convictions’ mean anything to you

    Gutless? who’s gutless now?===================================

    all this because you dont want to admit that palmer shot us right out of the game with his moronic late picks?

    We’ll add moronic. Endorsed, Mistic? O r are you still lacking the courage of your convictions/

  169. RaidersOne Says:

    I didn’t watch the game since I don’t have time to waste of crappola.

    Also, my passion, trust etc is best spent in pursuit of earning a living.

    CP is mediocre, same as he was last season. In my book he and Tony Romo are two peas in a pod. Romo is coming apart at the seams with bad decision and bone-headed INT’s, same mainly as CP.

    Now we lost DMAC as I predicted early in the offseason. Anyway who care since he is a mediocre back.

    This whole club stinks. Raiders 5/11 for the season.

  170. Marks hair Says:

    I tried to convince everyone I was good said Giordano but the players, coaches and trainers told me no.. you suck son

  171. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    The same Joh Elway who led the NFL in ints. one year who took 5 years to learn to read NFL defenses who used hius athletic ability as much as Cam Newton to win. Elway won very ugly BUT he won Elway will never be mistaken for an elite passer but he was a tremendous QB. Vick when he is right and he hasn’t been this or last year very much they compare favorably. Vick is just a bit too undersized for his own good. He should be much better but has regressed regretably.
    ==============

    eagle 7 has suffered the worst o line in football the last two years running. give him just mediocre blocking and he returns to pro bowl form

    Why is it always excuses for black Qb’s ,yet your ready to count even the dropped ints on Palmer throws ,even ready to add the fumbles ,which Qb’s can’t do anything about to Palmers totals to really make his stats look bad, so if we’re going to go by wins and losses and forget that other 52 players play the games as well when it comes to Palmer , then lets go by the same standards for every QB okay, let’s say T Dilfer and R Johnson >>> C Newton,Vick,Griffin,Freeman,Russell and all the black QBs who ever played

  172. The Big Banana Says:

    4 of Tampa’s 6 TDs on the ground. Still lol at shoot out. Boy, the Schit sure gets deep in here.

  173. Priesttj12 Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    Eagle 7? I call foul
    His name is and always be Vick the dog killer
    *************************************************

    See what I mean, they can kill humans and be forgiven but he can’t kill dogs……….without them wanting to tar and feather him.

  174. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    what are yopu smoking folks/

    7-11 is an upgrade over 12-7??!?!?!

    laughable and pathetic
    __________
    there’s no use arguing you because
    =======

    im right. none of the other qbs you mentioned have anythiong to do with palmer pathetic flame out yesterday in a very very very winnable home game. palmer choked just like the atl game. You cats were reday to enshrine him in canton for beating brady quinnn for god sakes.

    i warned you about this, now eat and swallow it down

  175. KoolKell Says:

    Palmer has a 85 passer rating, which is about his career avg.
    Peyton Manning is at 108, which is about his avg.

  176. raiderdav Says:

    Palmer cost this team the W plain and simple, nothing against him but he will win you as many games as losses. I thought Palmer seemed to anxious on that last drive, should had continue dumping short passes to Reece, the team rushed throwing it on First down. face it at best this team is going 7-9 we will be lucky to go 9-7 or even 8-8.

  177. Marks hair Says:

    We’re still good…. if but if but if but if but if but…. just stop

  178. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    4 of Tampa’s 6 TDs on the ground. Still lol at shoot out. Boy, the Schit sure gets deep in here.
    ————
    the term shoot out has nothing to do with how points are generated, only the number of points that are scored.

    even if you dont call it a shootout (even though 74 points were on the board) palmer still threw the game away

  179. inonewordraider Says:

    actually it only demonstrates how incredibly efficient freeman was yetsreday. he didnt need to throw a ton to kame the most of his passing opportunities.

    he was much like jc was for us last year. in fact freeman is very much like jc only a little bigger a little more athletic and not quite as patient, but he is getting there.

    easily one of the most improved players this year and candidate for come back layer of the year under manning
    _______________
    as much as you want to believe we all hate black qb’s and want to prove that suck it’s not the case. i personally only enjoy when rgIII cam vick or wilson lose so i can clown you the next day.

    and as much as you want to believe it we don’t think cp is some great white hope rescuing us from evil in the world, we just think he’s the best option now and the best qb we’ve had since gannon

  180. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Elway won very ugly BUT he won Elway will never be mistaken for an elite passer but he was a tremendous QB. Vick when he is right and he hasn’t been this or last year very much they compare favorably.
    ===============================================
    Let me get this straight BHP…

    Elway wasn’t an elite passer and Vick compares favorably to Elway as a passer ?

    Do I have that right ?

    If so, you are out of you’re fkng mind.

    Elway had an absolute cannon. And was accurate and put the ball in the tightest windows time and time again. Carried the Mules to repeated SBs.

    Vick has a very strong arm. His accuracy is off and on. He’s had great legs and off the chart speed. But he doesn’t have Elway’s size or durability. He’s never taken a team to a SB.

    Sorry, ELWAY > VICK after it’s all said and done. It’s not even close or debatable.

    In fact, although I hate the Mules and Elway – I rank Elway as the greatest QB of all time.

    Ahead of Montana, Unitas, Marino, all of them.

  181. mcfadden20. Says:

    Wtf was so Efficient about Freeman again,scored 7 points in 1st half when his running game wasn’t going anywhere, then they scored all their TDs on Martins huge runs , had a couple of good throws here and there to move the chains, but you are the only one in this world who will probably say TB won because of freeman , but everyone will agree with us they’re winning because of Martin’s MVP type of year

  182. Marks hair Says:

    Shootout stands for a high scoring game since no 1 shoots in football

  183. Priesttj12 Says:

    and as much as you want to believe it we don’t think cp is some great white hope rescuing us from evil in the world, we just think he’s the best option now and the best qb we’ve had since gannon
    ************************************************
    Not everyone in here. Most think he’s infallable. Yet these same fans villified JC for WINNING!!

  184. inonewordraider Says:

    i warned you about this, now eat and swallow it down
    ___________
    thank goodness gms aren’t heeding your advice on troy smith joe webb and the raiders gm that you love so much knew better than to hire jc as our starting qb

  185. Raiders for life Says:

    130.Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    I love Andrew Luck and his talent I think he will win at least 2-3 SB’s this aint about white and black folks ………………although you’re trying hard to make it so.

    ###################

    Thank you, the sht’s getting old. I’d take a purple people eater if he could play QB.

  186. SLAYER Says:

    TERREL PRYOR ISNT ACTIVE FOR GAMES BECAUSE HE HAS NO TALENT AND IS VERY STUPID. 666

  187. Plunketthead Says:

    Priest or whoever you are

    Killing dogs is just plain sick in the head.
    Me calling him a dog killer has nothing to do with his color, just his charector

  188. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Is Palmer a gutless QB who plays with no heart and throws moronic passes as you said, Mistic. You won’t endorse your own opinions?

  189. Marks hair Says:

    Mmartin wasnt having a mvp type of yr till he played us.. come on.. most of the dummies here thought martin would get held under 50yds.

  190. raiderdav Says:

    its time to give this guy Matt Leinart a shot, and bring back Justin Fargas.

  191. mcfadden20. Says:

    All black QBs suck ,they only win ,when they get help from Running game ,Russell = M Lynch ,Freeman got MVP Martin ,JC won when ever McFadden exploded for big games

  192. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    yet your ready to count even the dropped ints on Palmer throws ,even ready to add the fumbles ,which Qb’s can’t do anything about to Palmers totals to really make his stats look bad,
    ============

    i dont have to do anything to “make palmers stats look bad” he does it that on his own by posting these awful numbers

    18 games 11 loses, 28 turn overs, 4 games with at least 3 picks and 3 pick sixs

    see

  193. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, if you go that rout then yes, Jay friggen Schroeder is better than Palmer, or JC for that matter (our last 2 starting qbs)…however, what happened to Schroeder when Bo went down? I remember a 51-3 embarrassment. Maybe Shell did suck as a coach in his first time around as well. Palmer may not have done any better but the point is, you can argue all you want, he is our starting qb, at least through this year! Instead of ripping him all the time…he is in a silver and black uniform, and that is who I support! Knapp has hindered this offense as we all know. Until he gets his walking papers…no other qb will fare better! I do wish that the powers that be do activate TP and put him in some packages, to start to see what we have! Hey, Denver did it with Tebow, I don’t see why Pryor can’t get in a game (besides that penalty against KC last year and never to return!)

  194. mcfadden20. Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    Mmartin wasnt having a mvp type of yr till he played us.. come on.. most of the dummies here thought martin would get held under 50yds.

    –/
    Dude he freakin went off for 200+ against

  195. mcfadden20. Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    Mmartin wasnt having a mvp type of yr till he played us.. come on.. most of the dummies here thought martin would get held under 50yds.

    –/
    Dude he freakin went off for 200+ against pretty good Minny D in Minny week before , wow you black guy supporters will say anything to make it look like they won because of Freeman,SMH

  196. The Big Banana Says:

    4 of Tampa’s 6 TDs on the ground. Still lol at shoot out. Boy, the Schit sure gets deep in here.
    ————
    the term shoot out has nothing to do with how points are generated, only the number of points that are scored.

    ———

    It has everything to do with how points/yards are generated. If not through the air, then it’s just a high scoring game.

  197. Priesttj12 Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    Priest or whoever you are

    Killing dogs is just plain sick in the head.
    Me calling him a dog killer has nothing to do with his color, just his charector

    *********************************************

    They been killing dogs in this country for 400 years and most of them are white people it’s a subculture that he got caught up in and it’s going on with Hillbillies and so-called respectable people everyday. It didn’t start with Vick and his homies!!

  198. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Palmer: 62.6% 27,802 yards 180 TD 124 INTs 86.3 rating

    Schroeder: 50.8% 20,063 yards 108 TD 208 INTs 71.7 rating
    ——-
    LMAO, who said Schroeder was better than Palmer? STFU

  199. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    All black QBs suck ,they only win ,when they get help from Running game ,Russell = M Lynch ,Freeman got MVP Martin ,JC won when ever McFadden exploded for big games
    ===============

    racist trash, but cant you make the same claim with palmer/

    last year you said ‘he needs dmac’ when we lost

    now he has had dmac and only won when dmac had decent games

  200. Raiders for life Says:

    If Palmer makes those tackles on Martins 3 TD runs Raiders would have won. lol
    Yeah, it’s all his fault.

  201. The Big Banana Says:

    actually it only demonstrates how incredibly efficient freeman was yetsreday. he didnt need to throw a ton to kame the most of his passing opportunities.

    ——

    Lol. 250 yards ryshing sure dudnt hurt. Of course he didn’t need to throw a ton.

  202. Marks hair Says:

    Black guy supporters?? Ook.. martin was NEVER mentioned as an MVP candidate until he went crazy against our D.

  203. The Big Banana Says:

    Dam device. Excuse my typos in my last post.

  204. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    yet your ready to count even the dropped ints on Palmer throws ,even ready to add the fumbles ,which Qb’s can’t do anything about to Palmers totals to really make his stats look bad,
    ============

    i dont have to do anything to “make palmers stats look bad” he does it that on his own by posting these awful numbers

    18 games 11 loses, 28 turn overs, 4 games with at least 3 picks and 3 pick sixs

    see


    Wasn’t you counting Palmers fumble into his totals to make it look really bad Palmer is 13 TD and 8 Int but you would bring his fumbles in this an other stuff to make it sound like he’s having The worst season for any QB ever , yet you have all these excuses for Black Qb’s , He doesn’t have Oline ,and this and that , but nvm who Palmer plays with

  205. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    read this again

    18 games

    11 losses

    28 turn overs

    4 games with at least 3 picks

    3 returned for tds

    2 game ending ints this year

    this would not have been accepted from any other over the last few years. yet you make excuses for palmer

    WHY?

  206. Marks hair Says:

    Your sounding like a not so closet racist mcFadden20

  207. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Priesttj12 Says: Not everyone in here. Most think he’s infallable. Yet these same fans villified JC for WINNING!!====

    Who? I remember every body thanking JC for his class and solid play. Most appreciated that he was an upgrade over the previous decades worth of castoffs. Some thought him a journeyman QB, But I’ll be damned if I can remember him being villified in here. I think you’re making crap up to further an agenda you’re too cowardly to express outright. We can go back to the blogs circa his release and see which of us is being truthful if you dare. But, like Mistic, I doubt you have the courage to endorse what you yourself says.

  208. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    read this again

    18 games

    11 losses

    28 turn overs

    4 games with at least 3 picks

    3 returned for tds

    2 game ending ints this year

    this would not have been accepted from any other over the last few years. yet you make excuses for palmer

    WHY?
    ——-
    Why? Because everyone knows Al left us with a sh*tty team. Palmer is working miracles with scrubs.

  209. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    yet your ready to count even the dropped ints on Palmer throws ,even ready to add the fumbles ,which Qb’s can’t do anything about to Palmers totals to really make his stats look bad,
    ============

    i dont have to do anything to “make palmers stats look bad” he does it that on his own by posting these awful numbers

    18 games 11 loses, 28 turn overs, 4 games with at least 3 picks and 3 pick sixs

    see


    Wasn’t you counting Palmers fumble into his totals to make it look really bad

    ==========

    NO MACBIGGOT20,

    IT IS ACTUALLY REALLY BAD. Palmer stats are created by palmer, he threw the picks and fubled and it is playing a major role in why this is the most laughable trade in raider history and closing in fast on Hershel walker to the vikings

  210. Marks hair Says:

    And martin wont be an mvp candidate at the end if the yr either… it hasnothing to do with freeman or his color.. what a strange thing to say..

  211. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    All black QBs suck ,they only win ,when they get help from Running game ,Russell = M Lynch ,Freeman got MVP Martin ,JC won when ever McFadden exploded for big games
    ===============

    racist trash, but cant you make the same claim with palmer/

    last year you said ‘he needs dmac’ when we lost

    now he has had dmac and only won when dmac had decent games
    -//
    Like I said ,everybody needs help to win, Freeman sucked last year with no running game and no receivers to throw to but look at his stats this year ,with MVP type if year Martin is having and Vjax to throw to, and I’m not racist, I want I really like griffin and I want him to succeed but your constant hate for our QB because he’s not black, is making it hard for us to support black Qb’s , look at your self what u been doing , I just made 1 comment and u got ur panties in bunch, while u been saying Palmer sucks ,all black Qb’s are great since day one, now who is actually a racist ,do you wanna ask the blog ,who exactly is a racist?

  212. hwnrdr Says:

    now he has had dmac and only won when dmac had decent games
    So did JC! Palmer has won games without him as well…
    But that’s not the point!
    Like I said before, JC got a bad rap with Hue, but I think even him would be mediocre with an offense that is suddenly dead last in rushing! Kinda disturbing that our rush d is better than our rush O! And that is not saying much!

  213. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    Palmer: 62.6% 27,802 yards 180 TD 124 INTs 86.3 rating
    Schroeder: 50.8% 20,063 yards 108 TD 208 INTs 71.7 rating
    ——-
    LMAO, who said Schroeder was better than Palmer? STFU==========

    Believe that was Mistic within the past hour, but he won’t admit it. Been trying to get him to endorse his own rants from this post and the previous one, but he lacks the stones to stand by what he says.

  214. inonewordraider Says:

    Not everyone in here. Most think he’s infallable. Yet these same fans villified JC for WINNING!!
    _________
    maybe some ppl think of him that highly, but i don’t remember anyone villifying jc for winning. were there some in the gradkowskis better crowd, yes. why? well jc was benched for grads, the oakland crowd was chanting for grads and he subsequently entered the game and beat the rams. jc eventually proved everyone he was better however and got us off to a great start last year

  215. Priesttj12 Says:

    Then you’ve never witnessed us win a game when JC was efficient but unspectacular and the fans just criticized every freakin throw he makes down to the nth degree. This one idiot Alex7 would go on endlessly along with AIG now if you didn’t take part in it fine. But to say it didn’t happen is BULLCRAP!!!…………….period

    They called him every name you could think of…

  216. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    urvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Priesttj12 Says: Not everyone in here. Most think he’s infallable. Yet these same fans villified JC for WINNING!!====

    Who? I remember every body thanking JC

    ===========

    that is a flat out lie, or you just are new.

    no matter what jc did he wasnt good enough for this board.

    jfb, raiderman 99, aig, dakota, macbiggot20, alex7, sully,raider dav, la to the bay, raider rob and many many many others

    Not only that but they went further by crowing palmer the savior, he ha sbeen a totla flop that is why most of them dont even post any longer. they were wrong about grad, they are wrong about palmer

  217. Plunketthead Says:

    They been killing dogs in this country for 400 years and most of them are white people it’s a subculture that he got caught up in and it’s going on with Hillbillies and so-called respectable people everyday. It didn’t start with Vick and his homies!!

    *********************

    So its whiteys fault that vick deligjhts in killing dogs. You are a pathetic troll looking for attention

  218. Priesttj12 Says:

    216.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    urvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Priesttj12 Says: Not everyone in here. Most think he’s infallable. Yet these same fans villified JC for WINNING!!====

    Who? I remember every body thanking JC

    ===========

    that is a flat out lie, or you just are new.

    no matter what jc did he wasnt good enough for this board.

    jfb, raiderman 99, aig, dakota, macbiggot20, alex7, sully,raider dav, la to the bay, raider rob and many many many others

    Not only that but they went further by crowing palmer the savior, he ha sbeen a totla flop that is why most of them dont even post any longer. they were wrong about grad, they are wrong about palmer
    ***********************************************
    Some of them saud we won In Spite of him. But they NEVER gave that kid any kind of credit no matter what he did………..period

  219. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Palmer has a 85 passer rating, which is about his career avg.
    Peyton Manning is at 108, which is about his avg.
    =======================================

    Manning had Marshall Faulk, Hall of Famer, Marvin Harrison, Hall of Famer, Reggie Wayne, and countless Pro Bowl Olinemen. How many Pro Bowlers and future Hall of Famers are on our roster? Or Cincinatti’s?

  220. Priesttj12 Says:

    Ok so now we have revisionous history, Oh we all loved JC he was soo appreciated……….BUNCH of freakin phonies!!

  221. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    They been killing dogs in this country for 400 years and most of them are white people it’s a subculture that he got caught up in and it’s going on with Hillbillies and so-called respectable people everyday. It didn’t start with Vick and his homies!!

    *********************

    So its whiteys fault that vick deligjhts in killing dogs. You are a pathetic troll looking for attention
    ==========

    maybe not but is there any doubt that he learned from white folks about this?

    Killing dogs and dog fighting has been a part of white culture sense the cave man era. this has even led to breeding of certain animals like the pit bull for example. throwing people into a pit of starving dogs and watching them tear the victim and one another apart for entertainment is a documented fact of white culture.

    Vick being the decendant of former slaves mad the mistake that many former slaves make and tried to emulate this former captors.

    vick may be a symptom of the problem but he certainly is not the cause

  222. RaiderLen Says:

    I’ll take Palmer and 251 rushing yards please.

    Stop the Run, Run the ball, and with Palmer or JC, or RGIII, you WIN.

    Fuuuuck.

    Love the spin and selective reasoning.

  223. Priesttj12 Says:

    So its whiteys fault that vick deligjhts in killing dogs. You are a pathetic troll looking for attention
    ********************************************
    POint being if he’s crazy in the head, what are they??? hmmmmm?

  224. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Ok so now we have revisionous history, Oh we all loved JC he was soo appreciated……….BUNCH of freakin phonies!!
    ——————————
    I liked Jason.

    I think Palmer is better.

  225. Priesttj12 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Plunketthead Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    They been killing dogs in this country for 400 years and most of them are white people it’s a subculture that he got caught up in and it’s going on with Hillbillies and so-called respectable people everyday. It didn’t start with Vick and his homies!!

    *********************

    So its whiteys fault that vick deligjhts in killing dogs. You are a pathetic troll looking for attention
    ==========

    maybe not but is there any doubt that he learned from white folks about this?

    Killing dogs and dog fighting has been a part of white culture sense the cave man era. this has even led to breeding of certain animals like the pit bull for example. throwing people into a pit of starving dogs and watching them tear the victim and one another apart for entertainment is a documented fact of white culture.

    Vick being the decendant of former slaves mad the mistake that many former slaves make and tried to emulate this former captors.

    vick may be a symptom of the problem but he certainly is not the cause…
    *******************************************

    Mistic1 he just stepped in a pile a crap and didn’t know it.

  226. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    now all the cats that blindly hated jc are stuck on stupid as jis 12-7 record shines as our last sterling example of wining raider football.

    palmer on the other hand is 7-11 and much like the products sold in the store of the same number and name sake, is just not worth much

  227. Plunketthead Says:

    Mystic and priest are just trolls trying to shut this cesspool down.

    This whole place is trolls

  228. mcfadden20. Says:

    Martin have amassed over 500 total yards in last 2 games ,which is why TB wins , freeman sucks,you only have to go as far as last year to find out why it’s the running game that has Freeman doing pretty good

  229. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    So its whiteys fault that vick deligjhts in killing dogs. You are a pathetic troll looking for attention
    ********************************************
    POint being if he’s crazy in the head, what are they??? hmmmmm?
    —————————————-
    Who’s crazy?, the Dogs,Vick, Whitey, or all. SMH

  230. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Martin have amassed over 500 total yards in last 2 games ,which is why TB wins , freeman sucks,you only have to go as far as last year to find out why it’s the running game that has Freeman doing pretty good
    ==========

    macbiggot,

    its obvious that you have only seen freeman play once or twice this year at the most. he has been on fire for the last month, and has clearly returned to form form his sophmore season. he is getting better and better. he went through a slump in his last year but it was only his second year as a strter. just like matt ryan he has bounced back and is silenCeing the critics, and the moronic biggots like You

    hint….WATCH THE GAMES THEN POST

  231. ArtilleryShell Says:

    Worst trades in Raider history? R u kidding? LT Jim Lachey and 2 1st round picks for QB Jay Schroeder. Redskins were getting even for WR Dokie Williams for their 2nd rounder I think we traded another WR for their 2nd rounder too.
    Again, Palmer gets no protection, and his receivers do not get separation. The last INT was his fault, even if receiver ran wrong route or they read the coverage differently, he has to see the throw in those situations.
    End of the day, the run defense sucks, the blocking sucks, the run game sucks, and sometimes the pass defense sucks. Other than that, we can compete with anybody.

  232. Marks hair Says:

    Im not even a freeman fan and i get called a “black guy supporter” wow mac 20 just call me a nìgger lover like a man ya racist turd..

  233. mcfadden20. Says:

    Going by Mistics win and loss stats , T Dilfer and R Johnson , better than Vick,Russel,griffin,freeman,and every other black QB that ever came out

  234. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    ArtilleryShell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Worst trades in Raider history? R u kidding? LT Jim Lachey and 2 1st round picks for QB Jay Schroeder. Redskins were getting even for WR Dokie Williams for their 2nd rounder I think we traded another WR for their 2nd rounder too.
    =============

    SHROEDER LED US TO THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN 1990

    palmer is leading us to a bag of fritos and the twilight zone marathon on new years eve

    worst trade in raiders history

  235. RaiderLen Says:

    Freeman is woefully lacking in the “wave of the future” measurables.

    Why you on His jock?

  236. morilla Says:

    Once again, this place goes into the sewer.

  237. Super Dawg Says:

    BOUT TO LOSE MY MIND, UP IN HERE

    Dudes, yawl need to chill, The Raiders lose and people lose their fcking minds. Word.

    I told yawl do like Super Dawg do.

    Have you boys get yawl a cold drink, preferrably a lightly salted but sweet cold marg, some chili/cheese fries, and enjoy.

    The get the ‘ol weiner wax out, get a pube gel, the stroke it for thirty minutes or so, or have a posse member stroke it for you.

    The go to your favorite toilet and plant a firm duece. Got to catch that Lawg on video, never gonna know if it be gold. Word.

    But yawl seriously got to chill. My favorites teams lose all the time. That’s how this Dawg rolls.

    EATIN FRESH EATIN LARGE, WHUT

  238. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    lol ill be back tomorow, lets hop palmer can pull his head out or we will get smoked in baltimore

  239. KoolKell Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Mystic and priest are just trolls trying to shut this cesspool down.

    This whole place is trolls
    ——————-
    Boy, you’re a stupid mfkr. A Beech Dawg Bugger calling somebody else a troll.

  240. RaiderLen Says:

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
    Once again, this place goes into the sewer.
    ——————————-
    True

    I’ve been around for 4 or 5 years.

    Way better back in the day.

    Now we have “blog personalities” lol

  241. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Martin have amassed over 500 total yards in last 2 games ,which is why TB wins , freeman sucks,you only have to go as far as last year to find out why it’s the running game that has Freeman doing pretty good
    ==========

    macbiggot,

    its obvious that you have only seen freeman play once or twice this year at the most. he has been on fire for the last month, and has clearly returned to form form his sophmore season. he is getting better and better. he went through a slump in his last year but it was only his second year as a strter. just like matt ryan he has bounced back and is silenCeing the critics, and the moronic biggots like You

    hint….WATCH THE GAMES THEN POST

    //- oh lemme guess Martin Is benefitting because of Freeman, not the other way around .. But common sense tells me is Freeman sucked last year because he had no run game and receivers to throw too, so what has changed their O line is pretty solid , good WR group ,and pretty good RB, stop calling it a slump or whatever ,he sucked last year because he didn’t Martin and Vjax

  242. ArtilleryShell Says:

    I think racists, bigots, guys making the black QB argument should be on some other blog. This is reserved for real Raider fans, not some forum on decorum or 1970’s mind sets. Plenty of mobile white QB’s struggled too, Steve Young in his early years, Heath Shuler, how about Tim Couch, Art Schilchter? What is your point? Those guys don’t play for the Raiders but they have talent and skills and would energize our fan base.

  243. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: last year you said ‘he needs dmac’ when we lost=================================================

    you familiar with the straw man argument? One of Rush’s favorite techniques. Nobody said that last year. You’re making crap up to support your untenable opinions.

  244. ArtilleryShell Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
    ArtilleryShell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Worst trades in Raider history? R u kidding? LT Jim Lachey and 2 1st round picks for QB Jay Schroeder. Redskins were getting even for WR Dokie Williams for their 2nd rounder I think we traded another WR for their 2nd rounder too.
    =============

    SHROEDER LED US TO THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN 1990

    palmer is leading us to a bag of fritos and the twilight zone marathon on new years eve

    worst trade in raiders history
    ——————————————-
    Is that the one we lost 51-3 to Buffalo

  245. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Martin have amassed over 500 total yards in last 2 games ,which is why TB wins , freeman sucks,you only have to go as far as last year to find out why it’s the running game that has Freeman doing pretty good
    ==========

    macbiggot,

    its obvious that you have only seen freeman play once or twice this year at the most. he has been on fire for the last month, and has clearly returned to form form his sophmore season. he is getting better and better. he went through a slump in his last year but it was only his second year as a strter. just like matt ryan he has bounced back and is silenCeing the critics, and the moronic biggots like You

    hint….WATCH THE GAMES THEN POST

    //- oh lemme guess Martin Is benefitting because of Freeman, not the other way around .. But common sense tells me is Freeman sucked last year because he had no run game and receivers to throw too, so what has changed their O line is pretty solid , good WR group ,and pretty good RB, stop calling it a slump or whatever ,he sucked last year because he didn’t Martin and Vjax
    ====

    no macbiggot

    watch the games

    freeman struggled last year because he was forcing passes and throwing off his back foot. he got into some really bad habbits and resembled the way he looked at times in k state. he has since admitted that he took of weight and went backt o work on his fundamnetals,this is why he is a much better player this year, and looking like he did when he first took over the starting gig.

    you shouldnt try to argue about players you know nothing about, i have watched him since college

  246. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    The Big Banana Says: Dam device. Excuse my typos in my last post.

    No apologies needed. Internet grammarians and particularly blog grammarians have a special place in he11 reserved for only them.

  247. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    ArtilleryShell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
    ArtilleryShell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Worst trades in Raider history? R u kidding? LT Jim Lachey and 2 1st round picks for QB Jay Schroeder. Redskins were getting even for WR Dokie Williams for their 2nd rounder I think we traded another WR for their 2nd rounder too.
    =============

    SHROEDER LED US TO THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN 1990

    palmer is leading us to a bag of fritos and the twilight zone marathon on new years eve

    worst trade in raiders history
    ——————————————-
    Is that the one we lost 51-3 to Buffalo
    ….

    yep

  248. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    no matter what jc did he wasnt good enough for this board.

    jfb, raiderman 99, aig, dakota, macbiggot20, alex7, sully,raider dav, la to the bay, raider rob and many many many others
    =============================================
    I give JC credit for being a professional and allowing the Raids to kick JaMoron to the curb.

    My assessment of JC, the QB, has not changed – he SUCKS.

    Definitely BOTTOM TIER.

    Put out some of the WORST quaterbacking displays I have ever seen.

    JC sucked. Hue knew it. That’s why JC got benched for Gradkowski. Rightfully so.

    JC is a SCRUB.

  249. Just Win Baby Says:

    Remember when DHB caught that one hander and thought it was such a neat play that he tried to do it again in the end zone when he clearly could have put both hands up? Can’t blame Palmer for that stupid shizz..

  250. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: last year you said ‘he needs dmac’ when we lost=================================================

    you familiar with the straw man argument? One of Rush’s favorite techniques. Nobody said that last year. You’re making crap up to support your untenable opinions.
    ========

    another lie

    99% of palmer supproters claimed ‘he didnt have dmac” and this was the reason he was unable to deliver on the promise of post season play.

    Look up the archive if you dont believe it

  251. Mr Green Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    The Big Banana Says: Dam device. Excuse my typos in my last post.

    No apologies needed. Internet grammarians and particularly blog grammarians have a special place in he11 reserved for only them.

    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    ‘Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter’

    *Dantes Inferno

    :mrgreen:

  252. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: this would not have been accepted from any other over the last few years. yet you make excuses for palmer======================================

    WTF you talking about. We’ve been accepting it since Gannon. By the way, mistic, you man up yet? Haven’t read the last 50 posts. If you have, I’ll capitalize your name again.

  253. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    no matter what jc did he wasnt good enough for this board.

    jfb, raiderman 99, aig, dakota, macbiggot20, alex7, sully,raider dav, la to the bay, raider rob and many many many others
    =============================================
    I give JC credit for being a professional and allowing the Raids to kick JaMoron to the curb.

    My assessment of JC, the QB, has not changed – he SUCKS.

    Definitely BOTTOM TIER.

    Put out some of the WORST quaterbacking displays I have ever seen.

    JC sucked. Hue knew it. That’s why JC got benched for Gradkowski. Rightfully so.

    JC is a SCRUB.
    =========

    the scrub left with a 12-7 record and was in first place and had an undefeated divisional record

    your boy palmer has not even come close to matching that, neither did your little hero grad

    i would kill to have qb play that well and lead to wins again

  254. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    peace folks…palmer stinks

  255. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Oh, no. Mr. Green caught me getting caught up in the bs again. Did you check out my posts after you bailed last night/ Had a couple good missives for you, but, alas,you were gone.

  256. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Didn’t need to cite the quote. You know me better than that.

  257. mcfadden20. Says:

    Amazing I say 1 negative thing about black Qb’s I get called racist by some of this anti-raider fans yet Mistic been here since the day Palmer got traded to us , hoping for his failure and magnifying every one of his mistakes , and calling out all the black Qb’s wave of the future , yet none of this guys could see his racism

  258. Priesttj12 Says:

    Why wont Andy Reid run the football more his QB is getting KILLED and he jsut keeps calling pass plays.

    The Saints run defense is HORRID yet all Reid does is calll pass plays.

  259. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    another lie
    99% of palmer supproters claimed ‘he didnt have dmac” and this was the reason he was unable to deliver on the promise of post season play.
    Look up the archive if you dont believe it====================

    Not necessary, I was there. As you said, ‘Another lie’.

  260. Seymour Bush Says:

    If any of you want to see how a MLB is SUPPOSED to play, just watch Vilma is tonights MNF game.

  261. Raiders for life Says:

    8 more games.

  262. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    peace folks…palmer stinks
    ———————————
    How disingenuous.

    You are nothing about “peace”

    You’re an agitator.

    Palmer is better than JC. Get over it. Peace.

  263. Mr Green Says:

    Palmer may take a bashing in here by a couple or three blogsters, but the man has die-hard support through-out Raidah Nation. Not just here in this blog, but in other blogs, and other circles amongst football fans, and people in the know. They know Carson has no running game because the zone block system is hot garbage. Darren knows this too. But Oaktown will bounce back and throttle Biltmo. Carson and Darren are better than that. They are being asked to succeed in a system that is not designed for success. If it was, we’d be successful. But they and the rest of the Raidahs will overcome. Yes, despite knapp, they shall overcome.

    Raidahs 38
    Biltmo 24

    ██████████ :mrgreen: ██████████

  264. mcfadden20. Says:

    I could go into any TB bay blog and they are probably talking about how having Martin and Vjax are what’s helping freeman , just admit freeman was in same position last year as Palmer was last year and this year , stop saying he was just in slump

  265. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
    Why wont Andy Reid run the football more his QB is getting KILLED and he jsut keeps calling pass plays.

    The Saints run defense is HORRID yet all Reid does is calll pass plays.
    ——————————–
    Tell me why TJ.

  266. Mr Green Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
    Oh, no. Mr. Green caught me getting caught up in the bs again. Did you check out my posts after you bailed last night/ Had a couple good missives for you, but, alas,you were gone.

    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    Did you see my failed attempt trying to put the logo in here Sat. night? Call it what you want, it was like mascarra gone bad, some even likened to a ink blot.

    :?:

  267. beechams gay lover Says:

    One time beechy was getting the chocalate cha cha and then beechy sucked down the chocalate sauce. and then he did it again.

  268. KoolKell Says:

    That’s what Reid does.

  269. mcfadden20. Says:

    T Dilfer better than M Vick

  270. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    the scrub left with a 12-7 record and was in first place and had an undefeated divisional record

    your boy palmer has not even come close to matching that, neither did your little hero grad

    i would kill to have qb play that well and lead to wins again

    ======================================
    Palmer isn’t my boy. But he is much better than your boy.

    Grads isn’t my hero. But I still think he’s better than your boy too.

    JC SUCKS. Does a good job of holding a clipboard though.

  271. JLofty Says:

    This Troll den is always good for a laugh.
    Today’s laughable (out loud) statement:

    “lets hop palmer can pull his head out or we will get smoked in baltimore”

    While I normally skip right over the Mistic posts cuz they are garbage 99.9% of the time…this one was unusally brief and thus I read it unsuspectingly. And laughed heartily. Always need a laugh on Raider loss Monday….

  272. KoolKell Says:

    12-7 is better that 7-12.

  273. Marks hair Says:

    Mac20 you called me a “black guy supporter” because i said martin was no mvp until sunday… and since my ladys half black and her father is black, yeah.. i gues i am a “black guy supporter”. Turd. Explain putting your foot in your mouth, or apologize… or just fùck off.. whatever you think is right.

  274. morilla Says:

    All you guys need to do is stop responding to posts. Just ignore them like they aren’t even there. It’s not that hard.

  275. MistaBrown Says:

    tj the clown,
    If Vick was 16/18, 220 yards, 2 TD’s you would be hugging Reids nuts and wiping Vicks goo off your chin.

    Get yourself some moral backbone and lose the racial bigotry tr0lling you do here, moron

  276. Priesttj12 Says:

    Vick hit on 5 of 9 dropbacks and they have the best RB in football but you woulldn’t know it.

  277. KoolKell Says:

    It’s ALWAYS about Race on this blog. Either blatantly or dog whistles.

  278. Priesttj12 Says:

    One run play and they’re about to score, give the running game a chance will ya’ Reid?

  279. Mr Green Says:

    Mr Purvisman/Intrepid. Exactly. This is why it is important not to linger to much in the not so good stuff. Dabble a bit only when necessary, but do not hang around.

    As long as a team of Silver and Black show up on the field on Sundays, it’s all good.

    :mrgreen: RAIDAHS BABY!

  280. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    12-7 is better that 7-12.
    ———————————–
    Thanks for clearing that up.

    You “win”

    JC was/is clearly better than Palmer.

    Just look at the record. No need to watch them actually play.

    Palmer is better than Newton and at least as good as Brees.

    Cool.

  281. Priesttj12 Says:

    Can’t run can’t win Reid someday when you’re a OC again maybe the HC will reign you in and show you why the run game is a staple of winning football.

  282. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    It’s ALWAYS about Race on this blog. Either blatantly or dog whistles.
    —————————————
    I’d put you in the blatant category Kell.

    Props.

  283. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Did you go back in time, Mr Green? Cause I’m about to re-use the worm reference. Just for giggles.

  284. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mike Vick took a perennial playoff team into the toilet, while Andrew Luck hopped his team out of the toilet in about 2 months, as a rookie.

    Vick is the guy who throws 100mph but still mostly stinks. Call him Billy Koch.

    Good not great, and not aging well.

  285. Priesttj12 Says:

    Now they finally see how to beat NO run it win it…..period

  286. SLAYER Says:

    MISTIC THE SUPERFAG TELLS THE BLOG PALMER STINKS, YET HES NEVER PLAYED SPORTS. YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED BOY. 666

  287. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
    Now they finally see how to beat NO run it win it…..period
    ———————————-
    Funny how an effective run game helps an offense.

    I guess they wouldn’t want to have to rely on Vick to chuck it 60 times in hopes of winning.

  288. Priesttj12 Says:

    Any white racist in here RaiderLen or just the black folks??

    You guys make all kinds of racist remarks yet none of you are racist rights? just thr trouble making black folks!

  289. SLAYER Says:

    REG MCKENZIE ISNT SMART ENOUGH TO SUCCEED IN MANAGEMENT. 666

  290. mcfadden20. Says:

    Was that fault Of the OL Mistic ? Vick is pathetic

  291. SLAYER Says:

    PRIEST,…YOU OLD UNCLE TOM. 666

  292. Priesttj12 Says:

    You don’t want any QB to chuck it 60 times that is almost always a loss.

  293. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Now they finally see how to beat NO run it win it…..period

    ************************

    Yes, taking the ball out of the hands of the guy who leads the NFL in turnovers and is setting NFL records for red-zone turnovers is a good idea.

  294. SLAYER Says:

    WHILE PALMER IS PLAYING QB, PRYOR IS IN THE LOCKER ROOM, EATING KFC. 666

  295. Priesttj12 Says:

    Best RB in football but yuou wouldn’t know it. Cause Reid’s throwing every down.

  296. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mark fukk off b1tch all you care about is freakin Raiders losing, go find your self a blog where they are negative as u r , nobody shares your point of view , only you and your minion friends Mistic and others

  297. Marks hair Says:

    Thats what a cutback runner looks like

  298. KoolKell Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    Mark fukk off b1tch all you care about is freakin Raiders losing, go find your self a blog where they are negative as u r , nobody shares your point of view , only you and your minion friends Mistic and others
    ——————–
    Go shake your poms poms. Mr positive loser.

  299. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    morilla Says:
    All you guys need to do is stop responding to posts. Just ignore them like they aren’t even there. It’s not that hard.============

    It is.I try. Remember that wriggling, writhing little parasite that Khan tweezed out of the segmented back of that captive reptilian creature on Alpha Ceti 6? Slithered into your brain from your ear and made you susceptible to suggestion? Mistic is that parasite to me.
    As Chekovs’ black superior said before offing himself instead of Kirk, ‘It’s hard’.

  300. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    Any white racist in here RaiderLen or just the black folks??

    You guys make all kinds of racist remarks yet none of you are racist rights? just thr trouble making black folks!
    ————————————–

    LOL.

    I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy.

    I could care less what color someone is.

    I’m not a victim. State your opinion as you see fit.

    I found in my experience, those that scream “Race” loudest are those that place Race above all else.

  301. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    You don’t want any QB to chuck it 60 times that is almost always a loss.
    —————————–
    Yep.

  302. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Where’s Raider O at?

    Ready to refine your not impressed with The Reggie argument, to exclude the “drafting a 26 y/o guard that is inactive”?

  303. Marks hair Says:

    You dont share my view so your racist taunts are okay? Fùck you kid.. i dont even talk to mistic because hes a troll.. i tried to share some diffent oppions and talk football with you but apparently you’re a racist pos.

  304. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why not let Bergie get a start the same week Mormons start to take over the world.

    Seems like some cool symmetry to me

  305. Priesttj12 Says:

    Andy Reid needs to be fired immediately. He wouldn’t know a shortyardage G/L formation if you drew it up for him everything is pass formation. They’re inside the 5 and he has the offense spread out.

    Get a freakin FB and 2 TE’s and force that ball into the endzone. You have a great RB stop the cute stuff and play smashmouth football in those situations. He’s doing stuff you use on 1st down at midfield it’s just very stupid football. No wonder the turn the ball over so much.

  306. Seymour Bush Says:

    Did any of you notice on that run that LeSean McCoy ran through 5 tackles. McFadden has broken 5 tackles ALL YEAR.

  307. RaiderLen Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
    Did any of you notice on that run that LeSean McCoy ran through 5 tackles. McFadden has broken 5 tackles ALL YEAR.
    ———————————
    Ouch.

    Pretty disappointed with DMAC this year, but understand that the O Line isn’t getting it blocked up.

  308. Priesttj12 Says:

    you run you win…..period

  309. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t know, I never remembered Donovan McNabb struggle with the turnovers like this.

    Vick has 14 turnovers so far this season. MoNabb had 13 or fewer turnovers in 6 of his 10 seasons in Philly.

  310. mcfadden20. Says:

    We will win next week all the usual Monday trolls and Palmer haters won’t be here

  311. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    you run you win…..period
    ———————————-
    Yep. Stop it as well, and you might have a perennial Playoff team.

    Go Figure.

  312. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    KoolKell Says: It’s ALWAYS about Race on this blog. Either blatantly or dog whistles.=================================

    Yeah, the undercurrent of unspoken (dog whistle?) racism during the cordial and friendly AM chats is enough to justify an anti- apartheid policy being implemented in here. And I can’t think of anyone better suited to head up a task force than you, KK. After all, you are inevitably the first one of the day to bring up the subject.

  313. morilla Says:

    Hate to say it, but I doubt DMac will be a Raider next year.

  314. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kool, stealing the dog whistle line from Mr. Tingly Leg.

    Ran out of your own race-baiting material?

  315. Priesttj12 Says:

    I think the run D will play much better this week . I think they underestimated that kids quickness and power and speed. They wont this though but we have to find a way to run the ball no matter what it takes or else we will struggle to win games.

  316. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    Remember when DHB caught that one hander and thought it was such a neat play that he tried to do it again in the end zone when he clearly could have put both hands up? Can’t blame Palmer for that stupid shizz..
    ———————————————————–
    That is cause DHB can’t get seperation and is always trying to push off the DB with his left hand. I went back and checked it out.

  317. RaiderLen Says:

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    Hate to say it, but I doubt DMac will be a Raider next year.
    ——————————————-
    As of now, I have to agree.

    Not happy about it, but production and health are where it’s at.

    A lot can/will happen between Today and next season.

  318. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Everytime he does it that is why some balls go over his head. His left hand is basically unavailable. That happened on the throw that was over his head that he could have caught but he was kinda tangled(his own doing with the hand)

  319. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DHB is amazing in that he makes either easy catches look incredibly difficult, or catches passes with one hand.

    No in between with him apparently, and that in between is called NFL consistancy.

    Still proud of his growth, as a man he certainly accomplished more than he was ever given a chance to by the rest of the country.

  320. mcfadden20. Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
    You dont share my view so your racist taunts are okay? Fùck you kid.. i dont even talk to mistic because hes a troll.. i tried to share some diffent oppions and talk football with you but apparently you’re a racist pos.

    —-
    Oh so I’m a racist because I’m tired of Mistics hate for our QB who’s a white guy and always propping up black guys , so I said black Qb’s suck because I’m fed up over his racism and hate for Qb I am a racist , even though I told you I want to see griffin succeed as much as any other guy ,even though my ID is named after a black player, I swear to god Mistic is jus making it hard for us to pull for black QBs we want to see them as fail as much as he wants Palmer to fail

  321. morilla Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    Hate to say it, but I doubt DMac will be a Raider next year.
    ——————————————-
    As of now, I have to agree.

    Not happy about it, but production and health are where it’s at.

    A lot can/will happen between Today and next season.
    ———

    Yeah, I don’t like it either. Something is definitely off and it’s not the ZBS argument everyone likes to throw out there. He seems like he’s getting soft and his judgement is getting worse.

  322. Priesttj12 Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    Remember when DHB caught that one hander and thought it was such a neat play that he tried to do it again in the end zone when he clearly could have put both hands up? Can’t blame Palmer for that stupid shizz..
    ———————————————————–
    That is cause DHB can’t get seperation and is always trying to push off the DB with his left hand. I went back and checked it out.
    *************************************************
    That is just a technigue all DB’s employ, they try to pin your inside arm so you can’t make a 2 hand catch. It’s just smart football by them our WR’s have to learn the tricks of the trade. You have to push off while running in such a way it doesn’t draw the flag.

  323. VanHeathen30 Says:

    22 Total Rushing Yards and we still had a chance…
    It’s NOT Carson’s fault.
    Knapp has killed this teams one time strength…
    Hate the ZBS!

  324. morilla Says:

    And watch, Dmac will go to another team and light it up.

  325. MistaBrown Says:

    KK put the mirror down.
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    It’s ALWAYS about Race on this blog

  326. RaiderLen Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    DHB is amazing in that he makes either easy catches look incredibly difficult, or catches passes with one hand.

    No in between with him apparently, and that in between is called NFL consistancy.

    Still proud of his growth, as a man he certainly accomplished more than he was ever given a chance to by the rest of the country.
    ———————————————
    100%

    I LOVE when someone works there ass off trying to improve and it pays off.

    Nothing but respect for DHB.

  327. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McFadden is a RB, who don’t last long in the first place, and who can rush for 1400 yards one year and be out of the game 3 years later (think Larry Johnson).

    Throw in that he has racked up a bunch of leg injuries in his career (turf toe, lis franc, groin, now ankle) and his career arc, might have peaked already.

  328. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not to mention DHB has been taken off the field twice already in his career on a stretcher.

    Wouldn’t know it by the way he plays, not tentative at all.

  329. morilla Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
    McFadden is a RB, who don’t last long in the first place, and who can rush for 1400 yards one year and be out of the game 3 years later (think Larry Johnson).

    Throw in that he has racked up a bunch of leg injuries in his career (turf toe, lis franc, groin, now ankle) and his career arc, might have peaked already.
    ———–

    Could be, he might just be one of those guys.

  330. VanHeathen30 Says:

    DHB plays with enthusiasm and has shown his grit numerous times…
    DA had me sold that he had his team ready to compete for 60 minutes the last 4 games,
    And just when I start to buy in…SUNDAY HAPPENS!

  331. jesusraiderjim Says:

    That is just a technigue all DB’s employ, they try to pin your inside arm so you can’t make a 2 hand catch. It’s just smart football by them our WR’s have to learn the tricks of the trade. You have to push off while running in such a way it doesn’t draw the flag.
    ——————————————-
    I get that. What I am saying is that because DHB is pushing off he is tying his own hand(s) and not being able to use both hands on some plays.The one above his head is one example, if he woulda had two hands he probably woulda come dowm with that one.

  332. RaiderLen Says:

    Moving forward, If I were Reggie, I’d be in the market for a back that’s built closer to the ground and was thicker in the lower body.

    Martin would be a good example.

  333. Just Fire Baby Says:

    #332

    Make that two of those guys, if we can

  334. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    See, Mr Green. My best stuff goes unremarkably by. Must not have been remarkable.

  335. jesusraiderjim Says:

    #330 Good Post
    Found myself in the same boat as you did. I even tried not to let myself in for in yesterday and could not help myself.
    It SUCKS to lose but that was pretty exciiting for a minute or 12

  336. Just Fire Baby Says:

    BTW Raider O, sorry to hear about the Min Pin man.

    I will pour some diet root beer out for your loss.

  337. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Seems the smaller compact RB is the new trend…
    All I know is guy better be able to break numerous tackles to get 5 yards behind this O Line…

  338. Marks hair Says:

    You know exactly why i called you a racist mcfadden20.. i disagreed with your take on Martin and you called me a black guy supporter. Right after a different racist statment to someone else. My ladys half black.. I gave you a chance to explain your statement or apologize or just to own it.. you chose to own it.. so fùck off you racist pos…

  339. mcfadden20. Says:

    Anyways ,I’m cool with you guys even if you don’t like the Raiders , I freakinh absolutely hate Mistic , n I’m pretty sure everybody share the same feelings in here

  340. Priesttj12 Says:

    I know but it happens the DB leaned into him to make it that way. He was trying untie himself but the DB did a better job. Give credit to the DB…

  341. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Purvis, you crack me up, being able to be funny in a sentence or two is a skill.

    Beach needs 5 paragraphs to barely be humorous.

  342. RaiderLen Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    #332

    Make that two of those guys, if we can
    ——————————————
    Agree.

    The body type seems favorable for longer term reliability.

    Kendall Hunter is pretty effective over in SF.

  343. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    mcfadden20. SaysOh so I’m a racist because I’m tired of Mistics hate for our QB who’s a white guy and always propping up black guys=====================================================

    He’s not just white, he’s our golden haired hero. Courtesy of mistic the nutless.

  344. jesusraiderjim Says:

    thanks Priesttj good observations and I learned something.

  345. Marks hair Says:

    At least when fangs and mistic do it i know there just trolling

  346. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Although I think your “Purvis” should be “Pervis” like never-nervous Pervis Ellison.

  347. morilla Says:

    Purvis pulled out a Kahn reference. Nice.

  348. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says: What’d I say? I’m almost always laughing while posting. Never know if anybody else is on the same page. Except Mr Green.

  349. mcfadden20. Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    You know exactly why i called you a racist mcfadden20.. i disagreed with your take on Martin and you called me a black guy supporter. Right after a different racist statment to someone else. My ladys half black.. I gave you a chance to explain your statement or apologize or just to own it.. you chose to own it.. so fùck off you racist pos…

    What exactly did I say that was racist , again I said all blak Qb’s suck just to piss Mistic off , because he trying to piss every day guy in here , don’t try to make something out of nothing , n I never called you a black players supporter or anything ,I don’t even care what you say,we’re all just tired of Mistic and you can ask any guy they want black Qb’s to lose , even if they support some Qb’s like me , but Mistic is doing a good job for us to change own opinion and hoping for the worst from them so we can talk some smack to kick the troll out , I am a racist while I fukin own a McFadden jersey and I’d named after a black guy , r u fukin serious ?

  350. mcfadden20. Says:

    Go Raiders

  351. mcfadden20. Says:

    We will beat the Ravens

  352. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    ArtilleryShell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    Worst trades in Raider history? R u kidding? LT Jim Lachey and 2 1st round picks for QB Jay Schroeder. Redskins were getting even for WR Dokie Williams for their 2nd rounder I think we traded another WR for their 2nd rounder too.
    ——
    Who is this dummy? Lachey was traded for Schroeder straight up. There were no draft picks involved. Dokie Williams never played for the Redskins. WTF

  353. morilla Says:

    I was eager to see what Goodson had when Dmac went out. He seemed to have more instinct and burst through the holes on the runs he has had this year. Both ponies are down now and we are now gambling on Reece and TJ.

    Wasn’t it week 8 last year that Dmac went down?

  354. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Goodson is CLEARLY the more short-burst guy, than Darren.

    Darren is a long-strider, in general but especially for a RB. He probably has more top end speed than Goody and 98% of the league, but his 2nd gear is awful.

  355. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Tweets by Marcus Vick via PFT:

    “Please trade my brother. We requesting out of Philly!!!! Please please please,” Marcus Vick wrote early in the first quarter, as the Saints’ defense repeatedly blitzed and battered Michael. “F–king line sh–ty!!! I never seen a Qb get pressured so fast. This not even an NFL type of O-line.”
    ——
    Is Michael Vick’s brother Mistic?

  356. KoolKell Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Go Raiders
    —————–
    Oh yeah dumbass,you’re the only true Raider fan in here.

  357. Just Fire Baby Says:

    O’bumski with no tie, Mitt with his on.

    I prefer my president to not dress less than I do, call me crazy.

    Put on a tie!!!!!

  358. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See November 5, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Bergstrom says he’s ready to roll if called upon Khalif Barnes started the first two games at right offensive tackle for the Raiders this season. Willie Smith replaced Smith the past six games after Barnes suffered a groin injury. It might be next-man-up time, with Barnes still recovering from groi… [...]

  359. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah,I hate it when 0bama goes around in a hoodie. It’s not presidential.

  360. morilla Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    O’bumski with no tie, Mitt with his on.

    I prefer my president to not dress less than I do, call me crazy.

    Put on a tie!!!!!
    ———–

    He’s on the blue collar part of his tour. The Boss was with him today.

  361. Seymour Bush Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Hate to say it, but I doubt DMac will be a Raider next year.
    =========================================

    Well let’s break it down. In the last game McFadden had 7 rushes for 17 yards. About what he has been doing all year. Goodson 2 carries for 0 yards. Boy that ain’t good. Then you have the receptions: McFadden 2 receptions for 0 yards. Terrible. Goodson: 6 receptions for 52 yards. Get McFadden out of there, I am tired of looking at him frankly.

  362. eastoaklandraider Says:

    if Bergs couldnt get on the field over willie smith… thats just not very comforting but i’ve been calling him a bust from day 1 anyway.

  363. mcfadden20. Says:

    27-20 Raiders

  364. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Eagles are heartless, spearheaded by the QB

  365. fangsraiders Says:

    VELDHEER/CARSLISE/WIZ/BREISEL/BERGSTROM = YEAH an ALL WHITE OL !!!!….because you have to have SMART players on the OL!!!….that disqualifies ALL BABOONS

  366. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    BTW Raider O, sorry to hear about the Min Pin man.

    I will pour some diet root beer out for your loss.
    ==================================

    Yeah, sorry to hear that. It’s amazing how attached we become to little critters.

  367. fangsraiders Says:

    VICK = THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE !!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

  368. Just Fire Baby Says:

    : McFadden 2 receptions for 0 yards. Terrible.

    ***************************

    Toss in his weekly drop as well, although it did come out a little hot from Palmer, it hit him square in the hands.

  369. eastoaklandraider Says:

    If Mcfadden were to leave us he’s going to a contender and will be back to wipe his ass with us.

  370. fangsraiders Says:

    VICK HAMMERED = PIT BULL PAYBACK YOU DUMB BABOON

  371. mcfadden20. Says:

    Glad McFadden is out, they should just pass all game long , that’s their Only strength

  372. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You would be hard-pressed to find many RB’s in NFL history who missed so many games his first 5 years, then went on to have a couple more good years.

    I am sure there is some, but most of them get hurt….. then become backups at the end of their careers.

  373. fangsraiders Says:

    VICK = SHOULD OF HANGED THAT BABOON FOR WHAT HE DID !!!

  374. morilla Says:

    Never thought Satele leaving would make such a huge dent in our Oline. But it did.

  375. Seymour Bush Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    O’bumski with no tie, Mitt with his on.

    I prefer my president to not dress less than I do, call me crazy.

    Put on a tie!!!!!
    ———–

    He’s on the blue collar part of his tour. The Boss was with him today.
    ==========================================

    The best demographic research in the world is on major American elections particularly the Presidential election. I am sure ESPN has two major demographics: white country hicks and urban blacks. Since white country hicks are not voting for him he might as well rock the hoodie to try to capture a few more young urban blacks. Especially in places like Denver, Richmond, VA or Des Moines Iowa.

  376. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Never thought Satele leaving would make such a huge dent in our Oline. But it did.
    —————-

    No you mean Hue leaving left a dent in our entire offense.

  377. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
    If Mcfadden were to leave us he’s going to a contender and will be back to wipe his ass with us.
    ——
    Probably, that’s why Reggie should just keep on the bench to rot like Marcus Allen.

  378. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    If Mcfadden were to leave us he’s going to a contender and will be back to wipe his ass with us.
    ===================================

    This is probably true for a couple of games. But he is wiping his ass with us EVERY game right now.

  379. fangsraiders Says:

    KILL VICK THAT PIECE OF $H!T !!!!!

  380. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bush,

    Saying “rock a hoodie to capture a few more blacks” well……..probably a better way to phrase that, lol.

  381. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Never thought Satele leaving would make such a huge dent in our Oline. But it did.
    —————-

    No you mean Hue leaving left a dent in our entire offense.
    =======================================

    ACtually, if pull up the posts from the prior years you will see me saying that Satele is a very good center for us and one of our better players. I give him a lot of cred. Hue, not so much.

  382. fangsraiders Says:

    MISTIC .5 DA SUPA-BABOON = HEZ GUNNA BE DA FIRST BABOON ON DA MOON !!!

  383. mcfadden20. Says:

    Who cares if McFadden leaves and become a hOf somewhere , he’s not doing anything here, unless he converts to Wr we should trade him for picks next year

  384. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Bush,

    Saying “rock a hoodie to capture a few more blacks” well……..probably a better way to phrase that, lol.
    =======================================

    And I thought I was waxing poetic…

  385. Try Some Reality Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    If Mcfadden were to leave us he’s going to a contender and will be back to wipe his ass with us.

    ========================================

    Lol. Probably so.

  386. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Picks??

    Plural??

    Unless it is a 4th and a 7th, we could maybe trade him for a pick, at best a 2nd rounder, probably a 3rd or 4th.

  387. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    Bush,

    Saying “rock a hoodie to capture a few more blacks” well……..probably a better way to phrase that, lol.
    ———————-
    LOL You guys are fckn crazy in here. “this racism is killing me inside” DAVE CHAPPELE.

  388. Raider Steve Says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if it turns out that Fangs is Cork?

  389. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Satele was a beast in the screen game.

    Wiz is anchoring center for one of the worst O-lines in quite some time.

    Not entirely his fault, but surely some of it is.

  390. mcfadden20. Says:

    Give me one position group u guys want to upgrade at or player you want to replace and why ? And why that move would be the biggest improve to our team

  391. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Fangsraiders Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    MISTIC .5 DA SUPA-BABOON = HEZ GUNNA BE DA FIRST BABOON ON DA MOON !!!
    —————–

    This dude is pure comedy. LOL and I’m black btw

  392. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raider Steve Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    Wouldn’t it be funny if it turns out that Fangs is Cork?
    ——
    It’s the only explanation for him not getting banned.

  393. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    Give me one position group u guys want to upgrade at or player you want to replace and why ? And why that move would be the biggest improve to our team
    —————

    GREGG KNAPP, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS!!!

  394. morilla Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Never thought Satele leaving would make such a huge dent in our Oline. But it did.
    —————-

    No you mean Hue leaving left a dent in our entire offense.
    =======================================

    ACtually, if pull up the posts from the prior years you will see me saying that Satele is a very good center for us and one of our better players. I give him a lot of cred. Hue, not so much.
    ———

    And then they could have kept Wiz where he belongs at Gaurd.

  395. Raider Steve Says:

    Albert, that’s why i say that.

  396. mcfadden20. Says:

    Improvement^^^**

  397. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I want a safety that doesn’t let Blaine Gabbert roast them, fluttering deep balls bounce off their head and WR’s run open by 20 yards on 3rd and 18.

    Draft Eric Reid, LSU.

    I should have asked 504 for a scouting report yesterday.

  398. mcfadden20. Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    Fangsraiders Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    MISTIC .5 DA SUPA-BABOON = HEZ GUNNA BE DA FIRST BABOON ON DA MOON !!!
    —————–

    This dude is pure comedy. LOL and I’m black btw

    I was going to say same thing , I don’t support his racism or anything but he’s a pure comedy

  399. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If McClain would have just done what Demeco Ryans did on that check down , this blog server would freeze with the amount of hatred for him being posted.

  400. Chris in NY Says:

    Willie Smith has been awful. Time to give Bergstrom a shot. Actually, well past time. Not sure WTF they’re waiting for.

    Meanwhile, hopefully Taiwan Jones finally gets an opportunity. Though this coaching staff has gone out of its way to stifle him since that he almost lost that fumble in the opener. Get over it, DA and Knapp. I almost expect Willie Smith to get more carries than Jones though.

  401. Raider Steve Says:

    Someone needs to create some over the top anti white sockpuppet.

    Mistic is too subtle and throws little curve balls now and then to throw you off for a second.

    Someone like Chappelles character in Undercover Brother.

  402. mcfadden20. Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    I want a safety that doesn’t let Blaine Gabbert roast them, fluttering deep balls bounce off their head and WR’s run open by 20 yards on 3rd and 18.

    Draft Eric Reid, LSU.

    I should have asked 504 for a scouting report yesterday.

    Is that bouncing ball of TBs head on football follies or what ever funny football videos they make, is that play on any of those videos yet , that was pure comedy

  403. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Never thought Satele leaving would make such a huge dent in our Oline. But it did.
    —————-

    No you mean Hue leaving left a dent in our entire offense.
    =======================================

    ACtually, if pull up the posts from the prior years you will see me saying that Satele is a very good center for us and one of our better players. I give him a lot of cred. Hue, not so much.
    ———

    And then they could have kept Wiz where he belongs at Gaurd.
    ———————-
    Yall sleepn on Hue hard, if Hue was here we’d be 8-0. I think the powers at be in the NFL knew this and put a stop to it. “Cant let those dam Raiders get close to the Lombardi”

  404. KoolKell Says:

    Every time I see 0bama, his pants are hanging down, and he’s wearing a hoodie, Damn.

  405. fangsraiders Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    Bush,

    Saying “rock a hoodie to capture a few more blacks” well……..probably a better way to phrase that, lol.
    ———————- ======== A FEW MORE??? ….98% of those RACIST’S voted for the half-baboon in 2008…because they “think” he’s black LOL……a few more free cell phones should make it 100%.

  406. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am not convinced Taiwan could get 5 snaps without screwing something up.

    Notice he hasn’t been put in the position in 2 years now to pass-block? Don’t think that is a coinky-dink.

  407. Chris in NY Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    I want a safety that doesn’t let Blaine Gabbert roast them, fluttering deep balls bounce off their head and WR’s run open by 20 yards on 3rd and 18.

    Draft Eric Reid, LSU.

    I should have asked 504 for a scouting report yesterday.

    Is that bouncing ball of TBs head on football follies or what ever funny football videos they make, is that play on any of those videos yet , that was pure comedy

    ————————

    That was some middle school stuff right there. Turrible.

  408. fangsraiders Says:

    …i got “pictures” of Cork

  409. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    Give me one position group u guys want to upgrade at or player you want to replace and why ? And why that move would be the biggest improve to our team
    ——
    A DT that will stuff the run. Get rid of Seymour and Kelly. Raider run defense has suffered for years.

  410. Raider Steve Says:

    Gruden:

    “Nnamdi Asomugha always struggling with open field tackles”.

  411. fangsraiders Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
    Every time I see 0bama, his pants are hanging down, and he’s wearing a hoodie, Damn. ========================================== I THROW UP IN MY MOUTH

  412. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Where were any of our safeties on any of those long TD runs?

    Gio at least was down near the goalline to hurt himself exerting some effort.

    Branch, Huff, MM34???? Missing tackles in the middle of the field and nowhere to be found.

    Is it that much to ask of our safeties to mask a little of our inefficiencies up front and limit these runs to 25 yarders instead of 70 yarders?

  413. Raider Steve Says:

    Saints are just doing whatever they want to Philly’s defense.

    Only thing that stopped ‘em for a minute was Brees fumble and then the fumble on the kickoff.

  414. Chris in NY Says:

    We need a speed pass rusher most of all. A complete joke that Reggie didn’t even get us a situational guy who could fill that role as a reserve.

  415. fangsraiders Says:

    …they are already celebrating = http://i42.tinypic.com/116jkia.jpg

  416. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Where were any of our safeties on any of those long TD runs?

    Gio at least was down near the goalline to hurt himself exerting some effort.

    Branch, Huff, MM34???? Missing tackles in the middle of the field and nowhere to be found.

    Is it that much to ask of our safeties to mask a little of our inefficiencies up front and limit these runs to 25 yarders instead of 70 yarders?
    ————————-
    Because the other safeties are black, and check cashers?

  417. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Andre Carter got a sack this week, maybe he can emerge.

    But yes, MULTIPLE speed rushers is a need.

  418. morilla Says:

    Raider Steve Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    Gruden:

    “Nnamdi Asomugha always struggling with open field tackles”.
    ———-

    Funny he said that. Nnamdi was always known as a sure tackler.

  419. fangsraiders Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    ————————-
    Because the other safeties are black, and check cashers? ====================== SMARTEST POST OF THE YEAR !

  420. Raider Steve Says:

    Give Vick credit. He’s taking a beating out there and keeps getting up.

  421. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Where were any of our safeties on any of those long TD runs?
    =====================================

    Yeah, and a couple of people here were blaming those long runs on Kelly and Seymour. Like a 6′6″ 320 guy who has a 6′5″ 310 guy blocking him is going to run down a 5′9″ 220 speedster.

  422. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Fangsraiders Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    …they are already celebrating = http://i42.tinypic.com/116jkia.jpg
    ——
    Alright, that is funny.

  423. mcfadden20. Says:

    I want better Wr’s we can win with average running game and Oline can be be turned into a solid unit by good coaching

  424. morilla Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Andre Carter got a sack this week, maybe he can emerge.

    But yes, MULTIPLE speed rushers is a need.
    ——-

    Yeah, Carter had a pretty good game. He was getting some nice pressure. I was mainly watching him on D when he was in there.

    But we need some young pups too.

  425. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Oline is the biggest need followed closely by Dline we need big uglies up front 1st pick 3rd pick better be big uglies Reg!!!

  426. mcfadden20. Says:

    But you can’t turn average WR unit into a solid unit

  427. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Oline is the biggest need followed closely by Dline we need big uglies up front 1st pick 3rd pick better be big uglies Reg!!!
    =======================================

    I completely agree. I think the lst three or four rounds should go to the lines on both sides.

  428. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Klay Thompson will be good, but he plays maybe the most stocked with talent position in all of sports.

    Seems like the other SG outplays him every night. So far, Thornton is in his azz.

  429. morilla Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Oline is the biggest need followed closely by Dline we need big uglies up front 1st pick 3rd pick better be big uglies Reg!!!
    =======================================

    I completely agree. I think the lst three or four rounds should go to the lines on both sides.
    ———–

    Agree here too. You build a successful team around it’s foundation. Something our drafts of the past have lacked.

  430. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Vick runs into as many sacks as runs out of.

    He just drifted right into that guy.

  431. Chris in NY Says:

    As for the WRs, Plaxico should’ve been signed this year. Another fail by Reggie. Team struggles in the red zone and 3rd downs. Exactly where a big, sure-handed veteran receiver could make a BIG impact.

    Not sure I want to go WR unless there’s a special one. As bad as Moore was yesterday, I think he can be a legit No. 1 WR. And I think DHB and Streater on the other side are capable of being a good No. 2. I don’t think they’ll be confused with Roddy White and Julio Jones, but I don’t think it’s as glaring a need as O-Line and edge rusher.

  432. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Oline has been a problem since before Gallery and still hasnt been fixed Hue made it LOOK better but it clearly still needs work, and the Dline has been a problem since the Darrell Russell Pat Swilling days (gosh that seems so long ago) But a mammoth run stuffing DT is what we need alongside Kelly who likes to rush the passer.

  433. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You can amass a solid O-line, outside of maybe LT, with mid round picks.

    But not when they are Mario Henderson and Bruce Campbell.

  434. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Chris In NY Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    As for the WRs, Plaxico should’ve been signed this year.
    —–
    Why? Nobody else wants him either. If he could play, he would be on a team.

  435. Just Fire Baby Says:

    There is like 4 “mammoth run stuffing DT’s” on the whole planet.

    To think we can just pick one up if we want to is not being very reasonable.

  436. Raider Steve Says:

    O-line is way in the background imo as far as need is concerned.

    MLB is # 1 on my list.

    McClain has got to go.

    If he’s not benched this week DA is not seeing the obvious.

    McClain should be waived yesterday.

  437. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McClain is not being waived anytime soon.

    Seymour, TK, Curry, maybe Huff or Branch, will all be considered before he is.

  438. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s all good though , I will stick with this team even if they lose the next 100 games

  439. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    There is like 4 “mammoth run stuffing DT’s” on the whole planet.

    To think we can just pick one up if we want to is not being very reasonable.
    —————–

    well how about just a run stuffing DT, how about that?

  440. Raider Steve Says:

    I like watching Vick play.

    Philly fans have got to be some of the most disappointed fans in football.

    They were supposed to be a “dream team”.

    Bout to go 3-5.

  441. Priesttj12 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    We need a speed pass rusher most of all. A complete joke that Reggie didn’t even get us a situational guy who could fill that role as a reserve.
    **********************************************
    This is another thing Reg did that pissed me off. How does any GM worth his salt do this and then waits until midseason to fix it. You have to be kiddin’.

  442. eastoaklandraider Says:

    MLB is not a priority imo I think we can pick one up in FA.

  443. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Oline has been a problem since before Gallery and still hasnt been fixed
    ======================================

    Rob Gallery wasn’t just the best Oline prospect in that draft, he was widely considered the best FOOTBALL PLAYER in that draft. He was considered to be as much a no miss as Dick Cheney shotgunning his friends cookie hole. Then there was Jake Grove. Remington Award winner for best center in the nation. And both sucked ass. Why can we not develop players?

  444. Los Raida Locos Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    It’s all good though , I will stick with this team even if they lose the next 100 games

    ___________________________________________

    Gotcha. Me too. But what a day of carrying on here. People just go nuts when the Raiders lose. I blame it on knapp for not getting the offense going early. Palmer had to take the game into his hands to get points. We can’t play that kind of game every week. Granted the flag on Smith didn’t help knapps cause. But zero run game. Have we ever been held to twenty yards? Doesn’t bode well for the zbs.

  445. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    There is like 4 “mammoth run stuffing DT’s” on the whole planet.
    =======================================

    And none of them can rush the passer. So you can grab one in the 6th round.

  446. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Raider Steve Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I like watching Vick play.

    Philly fans have got to be some of the most disappointed fans in football.

    They were supposed to be a “dream team”.

    Bout to go 3-5.

    _____________________________________

    We have a lot in common with Philly fans. Heartbreak, disappointment and emotional fatigue.

  447. Marks hair Says:

    Mcfadden20 says:

    wow you black guy supporters will say anything to make it look like they won because of Freeman,SMH.

    Thats what you said to me..

    Mcfadden20. Says: November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 pmAll black QBs suck ,they only win ,when they get help from Running game ,Russell = M Lynch ,Freeman got MVP Martin ,JC won when ever McFadden exploded for big games

  448. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Raiders D went from bad (last year) to worse (this year). WTF? Honestly, we couldn’t get any worse from last year. But yesterdays defensive display was earth shattering.

  449. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s easy to sit here and talk ,but these are pretty talented guys in control of 32 teams, no dumb guy gets that kinda job, a guy has to click on many things to work out ,sometimes a guy could be dumb as rocks but he can somehow hit on some Coach no body even interviewed (belichicj) even though this guy was very bad in Cleveland , now did that guy see that belichick would win 3 champs after his Cleveland record ,or it could be a player ala Rich Gannon to turn the franchise around or P manning ,you know what I mean , it’s easy to sit here and blame the gm in his first year operating salary cap hell and you guys want to fukin blame him and act like we know better than these guys

  450. MistaBrown Says:

    Rushing the passer is not their job you dumb a$$ meathead!
    _____

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    And none of them can rush the passer. So you can grab one in the 6th round.

  451. Raider Steve Says:

    Never thought i’d see a DMAC injury and then be disappointed that he may be back in the lineup the next week.

    Sorry. It’s just the way I feel.

  452. Priesttj12 Says:

    I think Bilukidi is a player but we need another one like him. Our DT’s are getting up in years but if don’t get a premier edge rusher out of this next draft or FA it will be a HUGE whiff.

    First and foremost I would like a top notch corner and then a an edge rusher in the top 2 picks. MLB’s even Olineman can be found in mid rnds just like we found Barksdale and Campbell only to give them away.

  453. Los Raida Locos Says:

    knapp = no run game. Have we ever had that few yards on the ground?

    tarver D = questionable at best.

  454. Marks hair Says:

    Thats why i think your a dìck

  455. Raiders for life Says:

    I’ve been wanting the Raiders to pick up a bad azz safety for awhile. I was hoping Stevie Brown was gonna be that guy, didn’t work out. Waiting for MM34 to develope has been disappointing. 2013 draft Reg has to find that guy.

  456. Los Raida Locos Says:

    At least we got this blog to vent the frustrations of having an OC who can’t devise a game plan to run the ball and score points. We always have to wait til we’re behind and Palmer takes over with the no huddle. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn’t.

  457. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    There is like 4 “mammoth run stuffing DT’s” on the whole planet.
    =======================================

    And none of them can rush the passer. So you can grab one in the 6th round.
    ——————
    WE dont need a DT who can rush the passer we have 2 in kelly and Houston we need a DT in the BJ Raji mold.

  458. Priesttj12 Says:

    Philly refuses to get in run power formation and run the ball. I’ve never seen such departure from physical football at this level. I never watch them but I know why they haven’t won anything now under Reid with all the talent they’ve had.

  459. Los Raida Locos Says:

    3-5. We should be 5-3, 6-2.

  460. Priesttj12 Says:

    It’s flat-out ASININE!!

  461. Just Fire Baby Says:

    just like we found Barksdale and Campbell

    ************************

    What finds!!!!!

    The only thing we found out with those draft picks was that our GM was running on about 65% sanity.

  462. Seymour Bush Says:

    And I thought our offensive line was a problem. Philly’s is turrible. And if that’s not enough we are going to see New Orleans here in a couple of weeks.

  463. Marks hair Says:

    Phillip thomas fs fresno st.. 7 ints 2 ff 1fr 3 pick six.. stud

  464. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    It’s flat-out ASININE!!

    ____________________________

    And frustrating. Reminds me of our lack-of-run game.

  465. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    It’s flat-out ASININE!!

    We know you are.

  466. Seymour Bush Says:

    WE dont need a DT who can rush the passer we have 2 in kelly and Houston we need a DT in the BJ Raji mold.
    ============================================

    Raji is a very good pass rusher. If your nose can’t rush the passer they are going to double the UT and then chip any other good rusher you might have. The second that happens, guys like Peyton or Rivers or Brady or Ryan are going to pick you to pieces.

  467. Oakglen Says:

    HI EVERYBODY :P

    Sure do luv my RAIDERRRRRRRSSS!!!

    Whut! (just had to get that one in, couldn’t help it)

    Holla! (that one too)

  468. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
    Mcfadden20 says:

    wow you black guy supporters will say anything to make it look like they won because of Freeman,SMH.

    Thats what you said to me..

    Mcfadden20. Says: November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 pmAll black QBs suck ,they only win ,when they get help from Running game ,Russell = M Lynch ,Freeman got MVP Martin ,JC won when ever McFadden exploded for big games
    —————–

    Mc20 is a punk and a follower.

  469. Raiders for life Says:

    Isn’t Phillip Thomas a junior though?
    But yea, he’s a bad mo fro.

  470. DKnight007 Says:

    That game yesterday was ridiculouys. DA and his coaches were once again flat out coached in the 2nd half.

    What the hell were DA, Knapp and Tarver thinking yesterday??

    Knapp play calling sucked in the end to try and tie the game and in turn, Carson makes bad decisions.

    Why didn’t they stick with the short dink and dunk, going to Reece to try and tie the game or win??

    Why didn’t DA and Tarver adjust to Martin cutting back to the weakside??

    Why did DA agree to that ill advised fake punt on a 4th and 12??

    Why did DA go for the onside with so much time on the clock?? He was lucky Blunt fumbled!

    Freakin terrible!

  471. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why did DA go for the onside with so much time on the clock??

    ********************************

    I don’t know, maybe because our defenses previous two plays resulted in 140 yards rushing and 2 TD’s?

    I think that had something to do with it.

  472. DKnight007 Says:

    Put a bet on the plus money on dumb azz Romney to win Ohio tomorrow.

    This election smells stinky and fishy like a Republican womans you know what…..Ugh!

  473. Los Raida Locos Says:

    knapp is always out coached.

  474. Priesttj12 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    just like we found Barksdale and Campbell

    ************************

    What finds!!!!!

    The only thing we found out with those draft picks was that our GM was running on about 65% sanity.
    ******************************************

    Sure that’s probably why he found Veldheer and Wiz…..fella once in a while take foot out your mouth. You don’t know the difference between shoe leather and your tongue.

  475. DKnight007 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Why did DA go for the onside with so much time on the clock??

    ********************************

    I don’t know, maybe because our defenses previous two plays resulted in 140 yards rushing and 2 TD’s?

    I think that had something to do with it.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Better to pin the Bucs and play field position and hope your sorry azz defense can adjust and make a stop.

    That onside kick was stupid….just like that dumb 4th and 12 fake punt call! Terrible!

  476. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Cable > knapp

    Hue > knapp

    Saunders = next man up

  477. DKnight007 Says:

    Then your boy Knapp decides to use Reece, only when DMC gets hurt?

    Freakin idiot Knapp!

  478. Marks hair Says:

    No hes a sr. Hes up for all the awards

  479. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    WE dont need a DT who can rush the passer we have 2 in kelly and Houston we need a DT in the BJ Raji mold.
    ============================================

    Raji is a very good pass rusher. If your nose can’t rush the passer they are going to double the UT and then chip any other good rusher you might have. The second that happens, guys like Peyton or Rivers or Brady or Ryan are going to pick you to pieces.
    ———————-

    No, the big nose tackle takes on the double teams allowing kelly or Houston to operate 1 on 1 thats the job of a nose T on passing downs if he’s even in the game on a passing down.

  480. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I’m sick of Andy Reid’s mustache and fat ass. I hope gets fired.

  481. Raiders for life Says:

    Why didn’t they stick with the short dink and dunk, going to Reece to try and tie the game or win??

    ####################

    Because Raider fans hate the dink and dunk, remember? It doesn’t work according to quite a few. WCO and ZBS just doesn’t work either.

  482. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Wonder if Reggie picked up his chair in his office today and threw it out the window? Or did he throw it at one of the coaches?

  483. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    da went for the onside because it was only ten yards to go…

  484. Marks hair Says:

    Where have you been all day DKnight? Ive been all alone with those sentiments today..

  485. VanHeathen30 Says:

    22 TOTAL YARDS RUSHING in a game that was 10-7 at the half…
    Abysmal Offensive performance on the ground.

  486. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    reggie needs to get off his chair to throw it…

  487. Raider Steve Says:

    I was listening to ESPN radio today and they were emphasizing how the NFL has really become a PASSING league.

    Going are the days of the 30 carry rb.

    You still need to run now and then, but look to teams like GB, NE. and NYG for the way things are headed.

    I think Raiders yesterday had their best offensive explosion of the season with our top 2 rb’s out.

  488. Raiders for life Says:

    478.Marks hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    No hes a sr. Hes up for all the awards

    ###############

    Kelly Skipper needs to put in a good word for him,

    Got a question. KC picked up Devon Wylie and he’s been inactive, what up with that? I can’t find any news on it.

  489. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Not a knapp apologist list:

    Los Raida Locos

  490. Marks hair Says:

    Well the sentiments about football anyways.. i hate all the politicians

  491. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Why did DA go for the onside with so much time on the clock??

    ********************************

    I don’t know, maybe because our defenses previous two plays resulted in 140 yards rushing and 2 TD’s?

    I think that had something to do with it.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Better to pin the Bucs and play field position and hope your sorry azz defense can adjust and make a stop.

    That onside kick was stupid….just like that dumb 4th and 12 fake punt call! Terrible!
    ——————
    yeah the onsides came too early if you pin them deep and we get the fumble we score faster.

  492. DKnight007 Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Why didn’t they stick with the short dink and dunk, going to Reece to try and tie the game or win??

    ####################

    Because Raider fans hate the dink and dunk, remember? It doesn’t work according to quite a few. WCO and ZBS just doesn’t work either.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    The dink and dunk to Reece was working though and then the moron Knapp decides to go away from it on the potential game tying or game winning drive??

    Idiot Knapp should stuck with the short game with Reece which the Bucs were allowing to get in FG drive.

    Only idiot Knapp would go away from what was working in a critical situation.

    The Bucs were putting too much consistent pressure on Palmer for him to call deep pass plays.

  493. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Priest,

    Wiz is playing Center for the worst O-line in football and Veldheer might be the worst LT in the AFC West.

  494. VanHeathen30 Says:

    The fake punt call was nearly as bad as the fake FG flick to Seabass against KC a few years ago…it had no chance from the outset.
    Extremely POOR game management by DA nad staff to say the least.

  495. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
    Not a knapp apologist list:

    Los Raida Locos
    Eastoaklandraider

  496. Marks hair Says:

    Hes pretty small.. maybe hes insurance for dexter m.

  497. Seymour Bush Says:

    No, the big nose tackle takes on the double teams allowing kelly or Houston to operate 1 on 1 thats the job of a nose T on passing downs if he’s even in the game on a passing down.
    =======================================

    True. In Raji’s case you can not take him one on one so what you are saying is exactly right. Remember, if you are taking a 5 step drop, how quickly can a fatass run through a 315lb world class guard and get to the Q? In under three seconds? No way. Unless they are a good pass rushing nose like Raji and those guys don’t fall out the sky every nine seconds. That’s why Raji went 9th or 10th overall.

  498. Priesttj12 Says:

    They get rid of our young lineman because they want bums like Brisiel and Smith yet we have Raider fans liking this stuff and wondering why we can’t run the ball. Because they ran off half the guys to help us do so.

  499. Los Raida Locos Says:

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/11/4/3601938/carson-palmer-showing-his-gunslinger-mentality?login=1352133455#comments

  500. DKnight007 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Where have you been all day DKnight? Ive been all alone with those sentiments today..

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I been workin!

    DA, Knapp, Tarver and Palmer screwed it up yesterday in critical situations.

    DA and Tarver were completely out coached especically in the 2nd half.

  501. Marks hair Says:

    I do not want to see the pats get thomas.

  502. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Reggie needs to throw his chair out the window with Knapp in it!

  503. Seymour Bush Says:

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    The fake punt call was nearly as bad as the fake FG flick to Seabass against KC a few years ago…it had no chance from the outset.
    Extremely POOR game management by DA nad staff to say the least.
    ======================================

    Exactly. And you had the ball at midfield and should be able to pin them in. And the play had no hope the second they snapped it. And a future HOFer was on special teams, smelled it out and made the play. That was one of the dumbest playcalls I have seen in years.

  504. DKnight007 Says:

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    The fake punt call was nearly as bad as the fake FG flick to Seabass against KC a few years ago…it had no chance from the outset.
    Extremely POOR game management by DA nad staff to say the least.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    At least Hue knew the perfect times to run that trick stuff….DA chooses the absolute wrong times!

  505. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Then your boy Knapp decides to use Reece, only when DMC gets hurt?

    Freakin idiot Knapp!

    *************************

    For the last time, COMING INTO THIS GAME REECE AVERAGED THE SAME AMOUNT OF RECIEVING YARDS PER GAME THAN HE DID IN 2011, AND MORE THAN HE DID IN 2010.

    Reece is on pace to now have just a hair under the same amoutn of receiving yards in 2012, than he did in 2010 and 2011 COMBINED!!!!!

    2010 = 21 yards a game
    2011 = 25 yards a game
    2012 – 34 yards a game

  506. Raider Steve Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    Priest,

    Wiz is playing Center for the worst O-line in football and Veldheer might be the worst LT in the AFC West.
    ********
    Worst o-line in football? Palmer’s sack total is pretty low for an immobile QB, and i’m not gonna blame the line for DMAC not being able to find the right hole’s.

    Fix the o-line first and we’re still gonna lose cuz we can’t stop anybody.

  507. Priesttj12 Says:

    Reece was discovered by Hue, we wouldn’t even know his name if not for Hue.

  508. DKnight007 Says:

    DA, Knapp and Tarver were completely outcoached yesterday in the 2nd half.

    Terrible job by them yesterday.

  509. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    No, the big nose tackle takes on the double teams allowing kelly or Houston to operate 1 on 1 thats the job of a nose T on passing downs if he’s even in the game on a passing down.
    =======================================

    True. In Raji’s case you can not take him one on one so what you are saying is exactly right. Remember, if you are taking a 5 step drop, how quickly can a fatass run through a 315lb world class guard and get to the Q? In under three seconds? No way. Unless they are a good pass rushing nose like Raji and those guys don’t fall out the sky every nine seconds. That’s why Raji went 9th or 10th overall.
    ——————–

    we dont need a DT to help with the pass rush we have 2 in Houston and Kelly we need a DT to help plug up holes so Doug Martin doesnt set rooike records on us.

  510. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Steve,

    I am just saying that people want to throw a victory parade for getting an average G/C and LT with a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

    That’s what we should EXPECT from those draft slots.

  511. nycraider Says:

    i thought last years 4th and 20 bomb that hue had lechler throw was the worst. i dont think at the time hue knew there was no pass interference on fake punts

  512. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Seems like DA doesn’t value starting field position…
    With the exception of the KC game, we have been losing the field position battle EVERY game…the fake punt didn’t help that fact.

  513. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    put me on that non apologist list

  514. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I believe Lane Kiffin was the HC when we brought in Marcell Reece.

    Not that I am a Kiffin fan or anything.

    Hue finally started playing him, Knapp is going to produce his best year.

  515. DKnight007 Says:

    If Hue was around, Reece would be a Pro Bowler this year.

    Krappy Knappy is a jack azz!

  516. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Raider Steve Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    Priest,

    Wiz is playing Center for the worst O-line in football and Veldheer might be the worst LT in the AFC West.
    ********
    Worst o-line in football? Palmer’s sack total is pretty low for an immobile QB, and i’m not gonna blame the line for DMAC not being able to find the right hole’s.

    Fix the o-line first and we’re still gonna lose cuz we can’t stop anybody.
    ———————-

    If you can keep your O on the field your D will be better by default ala our 2002 raiders& past colts teams led by Maniing(their D’s werent great either)but the O was able to get leads making it easier on the D and you can throw those Rams teams in there too.

  517. nycraider Says:

    Kelly and seymour havent live up to the contarcts we gave them. However, when was the last time we had a DE or speed rusher that demanded being double teamed

  518. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Could care less about individual stats,
    Especially or a hybrid FB that doesn’t block well.
    I’m not going to be surprised if he struggles as a primary weapon.
    Hope it doesn’t happen, but no as thrilled as some.

  519. DKnight007 Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Why did DA go for the onside with so much time on the clock??

    ********************************

    I don’t know, maybe because our defenses previous two plays resulted in 140 yards rushing and 2 TD’s?

    I think that had something to do with it.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Better to pin the Bucs and play field position and hope your sorry azz defense can adjust and make a stop.

    That onside kick was stupid….just like that dumb 4th and 12 fake punt call! Terrible!
    ——————
    yeah the onsides came too early if you pin them deep and we get the fumble we score faster.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Utter stupidity by DA yesterday on that fake punt and onsides call and utter stupidity by Knapp to go away from what was working on the potential game tying or game winning drive.

  520. Raiders for life Says:

    DKnight007
    I was being sarcastic
    But I feel your pain man. I’ve been as patient as all of you over the years and the sht’s getting old.
    I’ve been giving Knapp the benefit of the doubt but I’m just about done.
    Starting to look like another typical Raider season.
    But…… we are Raider fans, it’s not our fault that we were born this way.

  521. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I mean listen to YOU PEOPLE.

    Reece had his greatest game EVER yesterday. Never had as many yards or catches.

    Kiffin had him, Cable and Hue. It took Knapp 8 games to produce his best game ever, and will also produce his best season ever.

    And you blame the current OC!!!! Not the OC’s who didn’t get the same level production, the OC who got THE MOST production.

    Give it a rest already, yikes

  522. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Who’s idea was it to move Denarius into the slot?
    Kid looked lost at times, why jerk with one of the few bright spots on the O?

  523. Raiders for life Says:

    One thing about Reece is the dude is dirt cheap. Not like the Raiders a giving the guy 3 mill a year.

  524. Seymour Bush Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Reece was discovered by Hue, we wouldn’t even know his name if not for Hue.
    =================================

    Reece came here in 09. That was actually Cable. Not Jackson.

  525. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Reece was on the team in 2008, Practice Squad.

    A Lance finding.

  526. Seymour Bush Says:

    we dont need a DT to help with the pass rush we have 2 in Houston and Kelly we need a DT to help plug up holes so Doug Martin doesnt set rooike records on us.
    =====================================

    We’ve been over this a million times. That’s McClains job.

  527. Try Some Reality Says:

    Maybe this McFadden injury will be a blessing in disguise. What can Reece do as a runner? Maybe we can get him more involved.

  528. nycraider Says:

    Cable or Hue discovered reece? guess our gm had nothing to do with it..lol

  529. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Reece was on the team in 2008, Practice Squad.

    A Lance finding.
    =====================================

    Practice squad doesn’t count. Cable promoted him and began working him into the offense not Lance. Practice squad is exactly that: practicing against your real guys.

  530. Try Some Reality Says:

    Utter stupidity by DA yesterday on that fake punt and onsides call and utter stupidity by Knapp to go away from what was working on the potential game tying or game winning drive.

    =======================================

    If it works, it’s a great call. The onsides came at a time where, as a fan, I really didn’t mind the risk. Our defense was getting carved like butter at the time.

  531. nycraider Says:

    to me the biggest blessing in disguise to the injuries to our rbs, would be if we went hurry up the entire game. we are so much better in the hurry up offense

  532. VanHeathen30 Says:

    JFB: So What about Marcel?
    He’s 1 player on a team!
    As a FB he’s a matchup problem, but as a primary option, with plas on tape and a week for Balt. to prepare, it won’t come so easy…

  533. Seymour Bush Says:

    nycraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Cable or Hue discovered reece? guess our gm had nothing to do with it..lol
    ================================

    Actually you are completely right. Davis brought him in and in 09 and 10 they started working him, coached him up into the offense.

  534. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bush,

    Hey I was just stating that he was on the 2008 team to some extent.

    You want to find ways to distant any credit from Lance, I am all for it.

  535. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFB: So What about Marcel?

    *************************

    My only point is Knapp is using Reece more than Hue was, and that is a good thing, IMO.

  536. RaiderDuck Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Rob Gallery wasn’t just the best Oline prospect in that draft, he was widely considered the best FOOTBALL PLAYER in that draft. He was considered to be as much a no miss as Dick Cheney shotgunning his friends cookie hole. Then there was Jake Grove. Remington Award winner for best center in the nation. And both sucked ass. Why can we not develop players?

    ============================================

    Al’s quick hook with coaching staffs had something to do with that. Hard to develop players when new coaches, each with their own style, are constantly parading through.

  537. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Knapp JUST started using Marcel as a stop gap after RB1 and RB2 went down..
    Should have involved him more early on in the season, or even KC where he got all of 1 play…stop carrying Knapps jock based on numbers.
    Give me the number of three and outs, or the number of negative yards on 1st down, cause that’s what is killing this team…

  538. J Hill Says:

    This notion that ANY GM would get rid of good players to bring “his” guys in is ridiculous.

    If a guy can play, he will be on the roster.

    Can anyone point to ONE player starting and HELPING their team that we cut this past off season?

  539. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Reece should have gotten his butt to camp and not held out for nothing…was hoping he’d become a big part of the Offense, but not as a primary option.
    Hope he proves me wrong Sunday…

  540. Los Raida Locos Says:

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    Who’s idea was it to move Denarius into the slot?
    Kid looked lost at times, why jerk with one of the few bright spots on the O?
    _________________

    Wow. More genius game planning.

  541. VanHeathen30 Says:

    If Knapp was concerned about results and not “his scheme” he’d have developed a plan in camp to help,this offense find it’s way, but instead sank this team with his own ego, which must’ve been OK’d by DA…
    Maybe the only people who care about winning are the posters on this chat…

  542. Raider Steve Says:

    541,

    Nice insight VanHeathen.

    I wonder that myself sometimes.

  543. Los Raida Locos Says:

    I think DA will come to his senses this week and send knapp a directive to sh!t can the ZBS once and for all. Or with the second string backs, give knapp one more shot and the ’scheme’. If DA does that, we’ll see 3 and outs til later in the game, Palmer has to go to the no huddle to play catch up. Same sorry story unless DA does indeed sh!t can the ZBS.

  544. The Big Banana Says:

    Anyone here been to Cabo? Good times? Trying to figure out if a 3 day trip is worth the expense.

  545. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    really krappy has no bizness in the business…

  546. nycraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    This notion that ANY GM would get rid of good players to bring “his” guys in is ridiculous.

    If a guy can play, he will be on the roster.

    Can anyone point to ONE player starting and HELPING their team that we cut this past off season?
    ——————
    does satele count? starting for colts and him not being here started the issues with moving Wiz to center..etc

  547. The Big Banana Says:

    I mentioned before the season that I was concerned with the kiss of Satele and moving Wiz. Concern validated.

  548. The Big Banana Says:

    Loss! Not kiss! Effin device!

  549. Los Raida Locos Says:

    knapp apologists need to know its not the players that make this system lousy. If the ZBS had any credibility we’d have more wins. And all our points come from Palmer taking the reigns and going no huddle. And besides the lack of production, the play calling is bad.

  550. Seymour Bush Says:

    W’s are playing well right now.

  551. jesusraiderjim Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    I mentioned before the season that I was concerned with the kiss of Satele and moving Wiz. Concern validated.
    ————————————LOL Thought you were going all Mafia Boss with the kiss of Death shvt!!

  552. Los Raida Locos Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    This notion that ANY GM would get rid of good players to bring “his” guys in is ridiculous.

    If a guy can play, he will be on the roster.

    Can anyone point to ONE player starting and HELPING their team that we cut this past off season?
    ________

    We got some guys that can’t play and our on the roster.

  553. Priesttj12 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    Reece was on the team in 2008, Practice Squad.

    A Lance finding.
    **************************************
    This is like saying Lance was Al’s favorite coach. Please stop fella it’s getting ugly. Reece was an undrafted Bug Al special the same as Tommie Kelly and Des Bryant. And so many others too numerous to name.

  554. Chris in NY Says:

    I actually didn’t mind the onsides kick. It wasn’t a straight line up heavy to one side, desperation onside kick with 9 mins or whatever. It was a surprise onsides kick. Janikowski executed it perfectly. Guy on TB made an alert play on the ball and a nice catch. Forget the guy’s name, but he made several key plays in that game.

  555. jesusraiderjim Says:

    on another note. How about Routt geting cut. M.Fvcker gets cut , plays 8 games gets cut again and still makes 10 mill. Prolly be broke in 3 yrs anyway. Just sayin!!

  556. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Knapp JUST started using Marcel as a stop gap after RB1 and RB2 went down..

    ***************************

    Just started using him, as in using him as much as previous years?

    Take Sunday out of it. He still was averaging more recieiving yards per game than any season in his career.

    This isn’t debatable. It is a FACT

  557. KoolKell Says:

    The fake punt was horribly funny. 4&12 , they dink it 3yds. Too funny, sooooooo Knapp.

  558. Priesttj12 Says:

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
    J Hill Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    This notion that ANY GM would get rid of good players to bring “his” guys in is ridiculous.

    If a guy can play, he will be on the roster.

    Can anyone point to ONE player starting and HELPING their team that we cut this past off season?
    ________

    We got some guys that can’t play and our on the roster
    **************************************************
    Jhill what they do for another team has zero to do with what they would’ve done here. Those other rosters are not ours, to confuse that is like putting your own child in someone else’s home and drawing conclusions based on how they so there. It’s absurd YOUR TEAM is YOUR TEAM we needed those big bodies the other may have better depth different scheme it’s the variables are endless…….period

  559. Chris in NY Says:

    I’m not sure if L. Houston can play DT, but if so, I think Des Bryant-Houston-Shaughnessy is a solid young core to man the d-line in the coming years. And Bilukidi could be a diamond in the rough. What we need is a stud, speed pass rusher opposite Shaughnessy though.

    Obviously if there’s a Haloti Ngata type DT out there you jump on him, but assuming that’s not the case, I think it’s a lesser priority that can be beefed up through free agency and later in the draft. And I’m not averse to bringing TK back either. I think he can still play at a high level.

  560. nycraider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    The fake punt was horribly funny. 4&12 , they dink it 3yds. Too funny, sooooooo Knapp.
    ———————
    that was strange, it reminded me of last year when Hue had lechler throw a bomb on like 4th and 18 and he didnt realize there was no pass interference as the defender just tackled the gunner so he could catch it

  561. nycraider Says:

    shaughnessy hasnt been impressive. Houston is the only player on the line who has had moments imo

  562. VanHeathen30 Says:

    JFB: You’re saying that Reece’s avg of 1.4 runs a game for an avg. of 6.6 yards,
    Or his 2.2 avg receptions for 25 yards are going to validate Knapps Offense is using a pretty small sample size, but hey, you’re the “numbers guy”…
    Hope he BLOWS UP on Sunday, but can’t validate Knappy by his use of Reece, that’s delusional…

  563. Priesttj12 Says:

    JFB who knows what Hue would’ve done with Reece looking at his past #’s is like looking at any player developing. To point is Knaapster refuse to utilize the guy until he had NO CHOICE!

    What if he had done something similar week one maybe we don’t struggle like we have……it’s a valid argument.

  564. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Rob Gallery wasn’t just the best Oline prospect in that draft, he was widely considered the best FOOTBALL PLAYER in that draft. He was considered to be as much a no miss as Dick Cheney shotgunning his friends cookie hole. Then there was Jake Grove. Remington Award winner for best center in the nation. And both sucked ass. Why can we not develop players?

    ============================================

    Al’s quick hook with coaching staffs had something to do with that. Hard to develop players when new coaches, each with their own style, are constantly parading through.
    =======================================

    Good point.

  565. Try Some Reality Says:

    Nycraider Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    shaughnessy hasnt been impressive

    =========================================

    Biggest disappointment on Dline thus far, imo, considering all the hype.

  566. Los Raida Locos Says:

    Ravens will probably expect the raiders to be pass happy next Sunday. If DA sh!t cans the ZBS we could catch the ravens off guard with some gap running.

  567. VanHeathen30 Says:

    BTW: if you’re validating Knapp’s scheme based on numbers, what has he done to the running game?
    22 TOTAL yards rushing in a Whole Game is HORRENDOUS!
    Dude hasn’t done ANYTHING to warrant my support, but hey, if you’re good with him, good for you…

  568. Chris in NY Says:

    Shaughnessy’s been a disappointment. I don’t ever see him as a consistent double-digit sacks guy, but I think he can hold the edge and occasionally bring pressure. I think he, and the rest of our d-line would greatly benefit by having one guy out there who could quickly get to the QB and force him to step up. Shaughnessy, Houston, Seymour and TK are all guys that more often than not overpower their blocker and get a solid push up the middle, but they don’t get around their man so they can’t get to the QB quick enough to bring him down. They need someone like Wimbley who forces the QB to step up in the pocket befor he gets comfortable.

  569. Seymour Bush Says:

    Breaking News: Romney Down 39 Points in Latino Vote according to Pew Institute.

    No Presidential candidate can be down THAT MUCH in the Latino vote and expect to win. McCain was projected down 38 points in 2008 and he got badly thumped. And if that is not enough, Latino Focus has Rob-me down 50 Points in the Latino vote.

    4 more year, 4 more years, 4 more years…

  570. nycraider Says:

    we need so many playmakers on each side of the ball its scary

  571. Los Raida Locos Says:

    knapps got a real mess on his hands. So does Tarver. DA really needs to put his thinking cap on and find a way to correct this mess.

  572. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Shaughnessy’s been a disappointment.
    =======================================

    He really has been. This was supposed to be the breakout year for Matt and while his run defense has been good has pass rush has been lacking. I watched the Raiders shift him to the right side, and he did the exact same rush every time. That ain’t gonna get it done. And if that ain’t enough, this was supposed to be a breakout year for Tyvon as well. While he has been good, Palomalu he isn’t.

  573. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    The fake punt was horribly funny. 4&12 , they dink it 3yds. Too funny, sooooooo Knapp.
    ================================

    That wasn’t Knapp. That was Hoffman. Jeeez.

  574. Priesttj12 Says:

    I remember when we picked up Reece the scouts couldn’t wait to see what kind of player he would eventually be they were extremely excited he signed with us.

    Two years ago we had the same excitement over David Ausberry The connection for both players was Steve Sarkisian who coached here and knew both players well and Al Davis always used his sources that way.

  575. KoolKell Says:

    Just too many 3&outs in the first half, with Knapp’s horribly conservative playcalling.

  576. nycraider Says:

    Los Raida Locos Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    knapps got a real mess on his hands. So does Tarver. DA really needs to put his thinking cap on and find a way to correct this mess.
    ——————
    our only option on O is to keep letting cp3 throw the ball. we need more no huddles. on the d side we need rolando to be benched. its time for him to sit and watch. he is just bad karma

  577. lefty12 Says:

    I have to laugh when guys come here and say stuff like-if I see any more ZBS,I’ll go nuts.or we need to dump the ZBS and go power gap.I’d venture to say most could see both and wouldn’t know the difference.The system isn’t the problem.Our right side of the Oline stinks-period.What we need is a better RG and RT.

  578. nycraider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Chris in NY Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Shaughnessy’s been a disappointment.
    =======================================

    He really has been. This was supposed to be the breakout year for Matt and while his run defense has been good has pass rush has been lacking. I watched the Raiders shift him to the right side, and he did the exact same rush every time. That ain’t gonna get it done. And if that ain’t enough, this was supposed to be a breakout year for Tyvon as well. While he has been good, Palomalu he isn’t.
    ——————-
    branch is 9 mil to our cap next year..ouch

  579. nycraider Says:

    man , i never thought id ever type i miss barnes..thanks willie smith

  580. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Ingest problem with the ZBS, is you van’t fully practice it due to the danger of the cut block.
    So 2-3 years of game only development are needed to get the line to gel.

  581. Priesttj12 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
    I have to laugh when guys come here and say stuff like-if I see any more ZBS,I’ll go nuts.or we need to dump the ZBS and go power gap.I’d venture to say most could see both and wouldn’t know the difference.The system isn’t the problem.Our right side of the Oline stinks-period.What we need is a better RG and RT.
    **************************************************
    Well yes and no Lefty12 most wouldn’t but it is an issue. All you have to do is watch when we do power block DMC’s reads are so much more fluid but beyond that you’re probably spot on. If you go to the KC game and watch him explode he’s running downhill aggressively. DMC easily feels more comfortable in a power/gap system it’s just fact.

  582. Seymour Bush Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    I have to laugh when guys come here and say stuff like-if I see any more ZBS,I’ll go nuts.or we need to dump the ZBS and go power gap.I’d venture to say most could see both and wouldn’t know the difference.The system isn’t the problem.Our right side of the Oline stinks-period.What we need is a better RG and RT.
    =======================================

    I’d also like to see a back that doesn’t go down on first contact.

  583. VanHeathen30 Says:

    <<<>>

  584. nycraider Says:

    whats sad is dmac is hurt and it doesnt even matter

  585. Priesttj12 Says:

    Watch the 4th qrtr of the KC game he makes two approx. 20 yard runs and BOTH are power blocking. When the ran the zone sweep he lost yards.

  586. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Geez… Now that I know that Knapp is using Reece more than previous years, I can forget all about the Horrific run game we’ve seen most of the season and now ranks in the bottom 3 or 4 teams…man, what a relief.

  587. Priesttj12 Says:

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    November 5th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
    Ingest problem with the ZBS, is you van’t fully practice it due to the danger of the cut block.
    So 2-3 years of game only development are needed to get the line to gel.
    *************************************
    This is very true, but it really doesn’t take that long in most cases it takes a season before it’s fluid and everyone is working well coordination.

  588. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Watching our Running Backs get zero or lose yards play after play is freakin’ disturbing.
    3 yards and a cloud of dust would be a major improvement over this ISH…

  589. aig-raiders Says:

    Doug Martin is the real deal. The kid is like a bowling ball. I have never seen a back that small break tackles of LB and DL guys. He doesnt have Barry Sanders’ agility but a whole lot stronger though. I watched him early on and thought Tampa was stupid for not running him more. The guy just hides behind the Oline and scoot through for 5 yds at a time.

    On Berg, yes let’s see what he can do. Can’t be any worse than Smith. Smith makes me miss Barnes and I hate Barnes.

  590. lefty12 Says:

    What everyone says about McFadden liking one system over the other is no doubt true,Goodson loves the ZBS and after McFadden went out yesterday his stats running the ball were very McFadden like.The line isn’t doing a good job.If the holes were there both would be racking up yards,no matter what the scheme.

  591. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Why Knapp hasn’t incorporated more mis directions or reverses is questionable. Dropping the reverse based on ONE badly executed play in the opener isn’t enough of a reason.
    If we dumped EVERY running play that didn’t work, we’d have no running plays left.
    Which is pretty much what we have right now anyway…

  592. Raider8 Says:

    Of all the nights not to talk politics?

  593. Raider8 Says:

    I vote Slomo off the team.

  594. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Even a Krappy O Line should be able to get more than 22 yards rushing in a game…
    To a man, this unit has to step it up!
    Think Reggie is waiting for SloMo McClain to go to jail so he can Void his contract.
    At this point, he should hire a detective to help the prosecution…

  595. DJ Johnny Says:

    Was it just me noticing this but was Slomo on the field even MORE on Sunday than against KC?

    I do know he was on the field during those runs by Martin.

    Watch the tape. Focus on Slomo.

    Imo he’s the worst MLB in the league.

  596. 2romes Says:

    Is that the best the Raiders are going to get out of Veldheer. The Raiders sure Know how to waste good prospects. When the Raiders get young players on the def. or off. line with decent talent you can expect stunted growth syndrome to take place during the second year. They Just never seem to get better.

  597. papertiger418 Says:

    What’s crazy is that in Mexico the sale of alcohol is prohibited on election day. But what if your candidate doesn’t win? What are you supposed to do then, NOT DRINK!?

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