McFadden, Goodson get MRIs on high-ankle sprains
By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Monday that running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson suffered high-ankle sprains against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
McFadden underwent MRI and X-rays on his injury, and the tests returned negative. Allen said McFadden has not been ruled out of Sunday’s game against the Baltimore Ravens.
As for Goodson, he is undergoing an MRI today. The results likely won’t be revealed until Wednesday.
For now, Allen said he is inclined to stand pat until he learns more about the severity of the injuries to his Nos. 1 and 2 running backs.
Once he knows more, he will decide whether to stick with the backs he has on his roster, sign a free agent or sign rookie Jeremy Stewart from the practice squad.
Second-year player Taiwan Jones won’t “earn” more playing time until he shows that he can hold on to the ball better than he has this season.
Jones bobbled a kick-off and mishandled a pitch from Marcel Reece on a reverse in the regular-season opener, and he didn’t handle the ball again until Sunday.
Against the Bucs, Jones fumbled at the end of a reception from Shane Lechler on a fake punt that got stuffed well short of the first-down marker. He got blasted after a 2-yard run in his only other touch.
– Allen said right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes is slated to return to practice Wednesday after missing the past six games with a groin injury that required surgery.
It’s not a certainty that Barnes will reclaim his starting spot from Willie Smith once he is healthy enough to play. Allen said rookie Tony Bergstrom is being considered for the spot, given Smith’s struggles from time to time.
– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer also has missed the past six games. For him, his absence owed to a right foot injury.
On Tuesday, he is scheduled to return to the practice field to gauge his progress in his recovery.
– Allen said he still hasn’t decided what to do with linebacker Aaron Curry. One thing is for sure, time is running out.
Curry’s 21-day evaluation period ends Wednesday. The Raiders have until then to decide whether to activate Curry to the 53-man roster, place him on season-ending injured reserve or waive him outright.
Complicating matters is the potential need for the Raiders to free up a roster spot for cornerback Ron Bartell and, perhaps, a running back if McFadden’s and/or Goodson’s injuries are serious enough to warrant adding another back.
– Defensive lineman Desmond Bryant was released from a local hospital Monday, and he is resting at home, Allen said.
Bryant was admitted to Eden Medical Center in Castro Valley on Sunday after complaining of a fast, irregular heartbeat.
He has not been cleared to return to practice, Allen said. However, there’s still a chance that he will play Sunday against the Ravens, Allen said.
– Allen had this to say, when asked if there have been any discussion about re-signing veteran cornerback Stanford Routt, who was waived by the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday:
“No,” Allen said, without elaborating.
There you have it. It doesn’t appear as if the Raiders are going to revisit the Routt situation eight months or so after they waived him in a salary-cap dump.
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November 5th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I test-drove a 2000 corvette the other day…..really not that impressed.
I think I would rather buy a new mustang or camaro for the price of an older corvette.
What is the point of being able to go 200+ MPH, when if you do you just end up dead or in jail?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Mitt!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mitt!!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
snake eyes!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
u know i got 5 on it!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mitt!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
everyone. Just Hue.
324.mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Who cares??? The issue is that Palmer isn’t the solution!!! For a 1st and 2nd rounder, he was supposed to be.
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Palmer is supposed to fix an abysmal running game and a defense that would’ve had a hard time stopping a Division III runner yesterday?
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Fair enough. But if he can’t fix those problems, why the hell did we ever trade for him??? We could have put Ceasar from Planet of the Apes under center to miss the playoffs last year and go 3-5 this year. Meanwhile, we would have had our 1st and 2nd rounders to help “fix the problems”.
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Anybody can look good with best running game in the NFL, compare Freeman’s stats from this year to last year and maybe you will figure out why the big difference
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100% agreed! Precisely why the Palmer trade was so dumb. We could have drafted Doug Martin this year with Ceasar at QB and be leading the league in rushing.
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Doug Martin alone wouldn’t have made the difference, you need O line and good scheme , you need some kinda pass threat to negate 8 men in the box , which TB have with Vjax and M Williams
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Ummm, we don’t have pass threats now???? Then, how the hell did Palmer throw for over 400 yards yesterday?? I don’t remember him catching all those passes by himself.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
What a dumbass interception……..man!
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It really was. Again, you have to blame the coaches for this. The place was rocking, we were in the game, and you have to settle Palmer down. He got wound up trying to make a play and it cost us. In fact if we scored on that drive, TB would have just handed it off the Doug Martin and watch him run the length of the field for the winning score with three seconds left.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Man, that’s too bad they won’t resign Stanford
I’d love to see him clothesline KrappyRat in the Safeway parking lot
You just know that would happen, holla
November 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Dakota Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Mitt!
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Have you not realized Mitt is getting thumped badly?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Jason Campbell got 2nd string shoes. That means they are tiny.
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Lol!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
10.Seymour Bush Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Dakota Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Mitt!
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Have you not realized Mitt is getting thumped badly?
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Thumped badly? Man lol, are you in for a surprise tomorrow night! I guess that is what happens when the only news network you tune into is MSNBC.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I had thought the plan was going to be to move Wimbley to RDE and put Shaughnessy at LDE and move Houston to the DT rotation.
I think the Raiders keep Wimbley if he restructures. Remember, McKenzie didn’t cut him until the last possible day. Don’t blame Wimbley for not wanting to restructure, but it’s not like Reggie didn’t want to trya nd keep him around.
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As it turns out, we could have kept him and just not signed Briesel for 5 mil/yr. Who would play guard you ask? Well in my version of the O-line, Wiz and Cooper stay put.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Whos that scary looking mofo on Kells twitter page?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
I don’t remember Beech, must’a been a little twisty, been known to do that from time to time….
November 5th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
everyone. Just Hue.
324.mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Who cares??? The issue is that Palmer isn’t the solution!!! For a 1st and 2nd rounder, he was supposed to be.
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Palmer is supposed to fix an abysmal running game and a defense that would’ve had a hard time stopping a Division III runner yesterday?
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Fair enough. But if he can’t fix those problems, why the hell did we ever trade for him??? We could have put Ceasar from Planet of the Apes under center to miss the playoffs last year and go 3-5 this year. Meanwhile, we would have had our 1st and 2nd rounders to help “fix the problems”.
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Anybody can look good with best running game in the NFL, compare Freeman’s stats from this year to last year and maybe you will figure out why the big difference
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100% agreed! Precisely why the Palmer trade was so dumb. We could have drafted Doug Martin this year with Ceasar at QB and be leading the league in rushing.
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Doug Martin alone wouldn’t have made the difference, you need O line and good scheme , you need some kinda pass threat to negate 8 men in the box , which TB have with Vjax and M Williams
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Ummm, we don’t have pass threats now???? Then, how the hell did Palmer throw for over 400 yards yesterday?? I don’t remember him catching all those passes by himself.
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You know most of those yards came on just 1 route our receivers can run , they are afraid to go to middle and always lead to palmer int in any other route
November 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Dennis Allen has not ruled out Star Darren McFadden Versus Ravens: NFL.com
Darren McFadden a star? What does that make Lamont Jordan? All World??
November 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I guess the DA and Reg aren’t Routt fans. Lol. Me neither.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Dakota
Studies and you have proved that Fox News watchers are un-informed.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Maybe the Chargers will sign Routt. Then he will be getting payed by 3/4 of the AFC West.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Complicating matters is the potential need for the Raiders to free up a roster spot for cornerback Ron Bartell and, perhaps, a running back if McFadden’s and/or Goodson’s injuries are serious enough to warrant adding another back.
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Deuces Curry!!
Bad trade
November 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
“Smith’s struggles from time to time”
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You mean all the time Cork.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
19.KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Dakota
Studies and you have proved that Fox News watchers are un-informed.
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Fox what? I get all my news from this blog!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Ok, how about this…
Do you guys think it’s fair that Palmer gets all the rap in here for losing the game yesterday? Some people have an agenda against Palmer, which is fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion! However, was it Palmer’s fault that JC went down and Boller was who we all knew he to be and get traded to the Raiders giving up the 2012 1st round pick and the conditional 2013 2nd rounder? In years past, I have never seen any quarter back from being down 18 and at least a shot! We came back against a pretty good Pitt team down 10! And for once, I do not see any quit in the team! Defense, it looked like they did yesterday, but not the offense!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Palmer trade has not worked out. Just puts up numbers and throws INTS
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It has not worked out because we’re still saddled with same problems from last year and 2 of our strengths from last year (Running game and Ol) have turned into weaknesses this year
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Fox what? I get all my news from this blog!
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No wonder.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I will haul my butt out of the hills and go to church to vote tomorrow. I whine and complain but I still loyally go vote for the lesser evil. Might as well go to the store while I am in town and buy some more beans/bacon/flour.
Hope for the best prep for the worse
November 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
JL
Say what …. you don’t remember?
Brah, you went OFF on the old Troll! It was an epic blog beatdown for the ages.
You systematically annihilated the dumb goat in a fluid display of grammar mastery
You’ve earned the opportunity to party with the Certified Platinum Posse ANYTIME, whut whut
November 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Routt should change his resume. Cut by the bottom half of the AFC West
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Great job Hwnrdr. Clearly Palmer doesn’t deserve any blame other than what he did in the last 3 minutes.
He was our best player the first 57.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Ok, how about this…
Do you guys think it’s fair that Palmer gets all the rap in here for losing the game yesterday?
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No, most of us blame Knapp, dumbass. But you Knappsack huggers want to hide behind Carson Palmer.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
27.Plunketthead Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I will haul my butt out of the hills and go to church to vote tomorrow. I whine and complain but I still loyally go vote for the lesser evil. Might as well go to the store while I am in town and buy some more beans/bacon/flour.
Hope for the best prep for the worse
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when a big storm is coming, why do stores sell out of milk and eggs?
What happens when the refrigerator doesn’t work with no power?
Hmmmmm?
Yeah, crazy huh?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Without Palmer we’re 0-8 and laughing stock of the league while Mistic and Markshair are happy dreaming of our next black QB we would take with our #1 pick , who will be 50/50 bet to turn out to be like we expected , but Mistic will be here defending that guy even if go 0-16 with him
November 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I am beginning to think KK started that FB page.
He was bragging about dropping Raider Knowledge bombs and I asked for a example. His reply
Doreen McFadden is not a good fit for the ZBS
Sounds like our KK, still starved for attention
November 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Ok, how about this…
Do you guys think it’s fair that Palmer gets all the rap in here for losing the game yesterday?
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No, most of us blame Knapp, dumbass. But you Knappsack huggers want to hide behind Carson Palmer.
WHOA!!! What the heck did I do to you to warrant that dumbass name calling???? And I do not like Knapp!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Ok, how about this…
Do you guys think it’s fair that Palmer gets all the rap in here for losing the game yesterday?
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No, most of us blame Knapp, dumbass. But you Knappsack huggers want to hide behind Carson Palmer.
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I don’t blame Palmer or Knapp for yesterday. That was all on the defense.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Palmer trade has not worked out. Just puts up numbers and throws INTS
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It has not worked out because we’re still saddled with same problems from last year and 2 of our strengths from last year (Running game and Ol) have turned into weaknesses this year
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It doesnt matter, even if he had a great OLINE he sitll makes mad choices and throws it up trying to risk it. Also his lack of mobility sucks too. PPl act like palmer came out of nowhere. He has been doing this in cincy.
Puts up great numbers and throws INTS. he is what he is. a step above avg qb.. Older, wiser, but still throws INTS
November 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
to time….
16.mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
everyone. Just Hue.
324.mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Who cares??? The issue is that Palmer isn’t the solution!!! For a 1st and 2nd rounder, he was supposed to be.
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Palmer is supposed to fix an abysmal running game and a defense that would’ve had a hard time stopping a Division III runner yesterday?
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Fair enough. But if he can’t fix those problems, why the hell did we ever trade for him??? We could have put Ceasar from Planet of the Apes under center to miss the playoffs last year and go 3-5 this year. Meanwhile, we would have had our 1st and 2nd rounders to help “fix the problems”.
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Anybody can look good with best running game in the NFL, compare Freeman’s stats from this year to last year and maybe you will figure out why the big difference
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100% agreed! Precisely why the Palmer trade was so dumb. We could have drafted Doug Martin this year with Ceasar at QB and be leading the league in rushing.
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Doug Martin alone wouldn’t have made the difference, you need O line and good scheme , you need some kinda pass threat to negate 8 men in the box , which TB have with Vjax and M Williams
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Ummm, we don’t have pass threats now???? Then, how the hell did Palmer throw for over 400 yards yesterday?? I don’t remember him catching all those passes by himself.
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You know most of those yards came on just 1 route our receivers can run , they are afraid to go to middle and always lead to palmer int in any other route
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There isn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t kill to have weapons that consistently win outside as much as our guys did yesterday.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Tape doesnt lie
November 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
JL
Say what …. you don’t remember?
Brah, you went OFF on the old Troll! It was an epic blog beatdown for the ages.
You systematically annihilated the dumb goat in a fluid display of grammar mastery
You’ve earned the opportunity to party with the Certified Platinum Posse ANYTIME, whut whut
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Define blog beatdown? Do hella people agree with you or just you agreeing with ur self from other aliases?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Great job Hwnrdr. Clearly Palmer doesn’t deserve any blame other than what he did in the last 3 minutes.
He was our best player the first 57.
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By Far. Head and Shoulders over the everyone else on the roster.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Whatever the next first round QB we draft, be it 2013 or later, I wouldn’t even put the odds at 50/50 that he would be better than Carson Palmer.
I don’t see anyone in this next draft coming out making multiple pro bowls, playing 10+ years and leading crappy franchises to the playoffs a few times.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I don’t blame Palmer or Knapp for yesterday. That was all on the defense.
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Bull-schit. 3&out, 3&out, 3&out, 3&out the whole first half, of course the defense gets worn down. Been happening the same way since the first preseason game.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
There isn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t kill to have weapons that consistently win outside as much as our guys did yesterday.
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Name one.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Palmer trade has not worked out. Just puts up numbers and throws INTS
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It has not worked out because we’re still saddled with same problems from last year and 2 of our strengths from last year (Running game and Ol) have turned into weaknesses this year
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It doesnt matter, even if he had a great OLINE he sitll makes mad choices and throws it up trying to risk it. Also his lack of mobility sucks too. PPl act like palmer came out of nowhere. He has been doing this in cincy.
Puts up great numbers and throws INTS. he is what he is. a step above avg qb.. Older, wiser, but still throws INTS
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all those Int’s were result of pressure upfront, Any qb would throw 3 int or more if they had to attempt 60 passes non stop
November 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Great job Hwnrdr. Clearly Palmer doesn’t deserve any blame other than what he did in the last 3 minutes.
He was our best player the first 57.
Ok, yeah I agree! But i was talking about the 17 games as a starter!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
And I do not like Knapp!
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LOL
Our buddy the Koolster doesn’t get past the headlines often, in any phase of life.
You must excuse him.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Plunk there is NO way in the great blog universe that K-Rat started the Twitter page
Dopey old goofball can barely start the wife’s coffee maker in the AM
You think he can drop fresh dimes like :
Michael Kelly @KoolKellCloser
Anyone have a free ticket to the Bucs game? I’m kind of on a budget.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Whatever the next first round QB we draft, be it 2013 or later, I wouldn’t even put the odds at 50/50 that he would be better than Carson Palmer.
I don’t see anyone in this next draft coming out making multiple pro bowls, playing 10+ years and leading crappy franchises to the playoffs a few times
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So about a little better then Matt Cassel.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Thanks Beech. The CPP/PMPP will my VERY first phone call when my wife finally wises up. She’s not too fond of strippers….
But nothing livens up a party like a middle-aged, soon to be balding, slowly largening NordicDego gettin Jiggywiddit….word!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I don’t blame Palmer or Knapp for yesterday. That was all on the defense.
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Bull-schit. 3&out, 3&out, 3&out, 3&out the whole first half, of course the defense gets worn down. Been happening the same way since the first preseason game.
True, defense got worn out by the first half! It truly showed in the second half!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
There isn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t kill to have weapons that consistently win outside as much as our guys did yesterday.
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All that required was Palmer hitting them perfect passes in stride, but Ds will eventually figure them out, you can’t win in this league running the same route over and over
November 5th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Throw the ball to the left behind the line of scrimmage, throw the ball right behind the line of scrimmage. Greg Knapp.
My wife couldn’t understand why they don’t throw the ball forward, toward the sticks or the endzone…………….I couldn’t explain it to her.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
But i was talking about the 17 games as a starter!
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Multiple coaches, owners, offenses, etc.
He clearly has earned the right, as Soup did in 2010, to get the benefit of one more stablized year to make the playoffs or kick rocks.
Let’s hope Palmer outshines the only guy on the planet who slides worse than Pablo Sandoval.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
LOL, JFB! Good one!
November 5th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Throw the ball to the left behind the line of scrimmage, throw the ball right behind the line of scrimmage. Greg Knapp.
My wife couldn’t understand why they don’t throw the ball forward, toward the sticks or the endzone…………….I couldn’t explain it to her.
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Maybe because you’re an idiot?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Palmer did great, don’t forget his 1st half TD pass to Hagan that was negated by Smith holding , don’t forget the perfect fade pass to streater in the end zone, he should have had but Streater being the rookie he is was busy doing things he shouldn’t do instead of just running to the ball and catching it”
In all Palmer should have had 6 TD’s
November 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Now, I did see an elite Peyton Manning come back yesterday…….and put the game away.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I would take 3 Ints any day of the week if it means they came from 60 non stop passing attempts to below average receivers behind a pathetic O-Line, i don’t think that’s bad day for him 4 TDs should have been 6 but 4 TD – 3 int isn’t that bad after all if you consider all the circumstances
November 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
JLofty Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Thanks Beech. The CPP/PMPP will my VERY first phone call when my wife finally wises up. She’s not too fond of strippers….
But nothing livens up a party like a middle-aged, soon to be balding, slowly largening NordicDego gettin Jiggywiddit….word!
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Brah, unless any other PMPP homies object, I’m naming you the first official Honorary PMPP Member in our gang’s history
Of course you’re welcome to submit a fresh rap for full membership consideration, but why bother?
You’ve got elite status and your wife won’t even sniff it
PMPP IN THE HIZZY
November 5th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Now, I did see an elite Peyton Manning come back yesterday…….and put the game away.
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Elite comeback , his team went into 4th quarter leading 17-13 wtf you talking about , he scored 14 points in the 4th , while his team allowed 10
November 5th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Now, I did see an elite Peyton Manning come back yesterday…….and put the game away.
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Well OBVIOUSLY Carson Palmer is not Peyton Manning, maybe one of the top 3 QB’s ever.
If your going to hold any Raider QB up to THOSE standards, you will be disappointed 100% of the time.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I would take 3 Ints any day of the week if it means they came from 60 non stop passing attempts to below average receivers behind a pathetic O-Line, i don’t think that’s bad day for him 4 TDs should have been 6 but 4 TD – 3 int isn’t that bad after all if you consider all the circumstances
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And losing is not that bad either is it dumbass?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Don’t look now, but Wiz 2.0 is working on anchoring Center for one of the worst offensive lines in recent memory.
A move back to guard in 2013 seems inevitable.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I don’t know what comeback P Manning did , his team was leading 17-13 heading into the 4th QB, maybe they were down 4 points for awhile
November 5th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Now martin has a nickname.. way to go àssholes
November 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I would take 3 Ints any day of the week if it means they came from 60 non stop passing attempts to below average receivers behind a pathetic O-Line, i don’t think that’s bad day for him 4 TDs should have been 6 but 4 TD – 3 int isn’t that bad after all if you consider all the circumstances
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And losing is not that bad either is it dumbass?
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Maybe if D had decided to show up to play , we would have won, But Palmer did good considering all the circumstances ,any other QB from our past 10 years would have went 3 n out every drive trying to come back from 18 down
November 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Well OBVIOUSLY Carson Palmer is not Peyton Manning, maybe one of the top 3 QB’s ever.
If your going to hold any Raider QB up to THOSE standards, you will be disappointed 100% of the time.
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Well that’s what you monkey’s do. You say Palmer is an elite QB don’t you?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Too late to trade anybody.. we fùcked up
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I don’t condone profanity nor use it. But this is the most accurate and concise statement heretofore.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
If we are going to blame anyone for this loss, we should blame Priest for coming on here before the AM kickoffs, and start accusing the entire NFL and 98% of it’s fans of being a bunch of racist hillbillies.
Bad JuJu
November 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
You say Palmer is an elite QB don’t you?
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Calling Peyton Manning elite is quite the understatement isn’t it?
That’s like calling Beyonce “attractive”.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
You say Palmer is an elite QB don’t you?
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Calling Peyton Manning elite is quite the understatement isn’t it?
That’s like calling Beyonce “attractive”.
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Alright, whatever spinmeister.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Yo Cork,
apparently you forgot the memo. Reggie made it clear he wants football players with a passion for the game. Routt never qualified for either of those criterias. The guy was an idiot over the years for never accepting his responsibilities and he was never a football player to begin with. He was a track dude that happened to play football to get a paycheck. KC was stupid to look at his stats and took the bait. This is the one time where the stats DO LIE and you have to look at it on film.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I am trying to get KK to bite.
But he aint biting
Time to break out the shrimp flavored cheese
November 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
CP has nice stats and I think he’s playing pretty well overall.
You can’t disregard the fact that he’s playing in a Krapp offense and has no running game. You can’t disregard that the Raids don’t have a true nbr 1 WR.
BUT…
You also can not excuse the TWO very poor, boneheaded interceptions in CRUNCH TIME.
The one in ATL likely cost a win.
The one yesterday likely cost a win.
If you’re going to be ELITE, you have to get it done in the CLUTCH.
Either you get the job done – lead the team to the game winning score or don’t.
Carson did not.
And that’s the bottom, unalterable line.
So despite having good numbers and playing rather well under difficult circumstances, CP’s failure in the clutch in 2 key games can’t be overlooked.
Unfortunately, Palmer has a history of throwing these game altering picks in crucial moments.
An ELITE QB rises to the occasion and gets it done. It’s not going to be easy with all the negatives swirling around. But the ELITE QB finds a way. He lifts the team. He elevates the play around him.
Did CP LOSE the game for the Raids yesterday ? NO.
But he didn’t WIN it.
He can NOT turn the ball over when the game is on the line. End of story.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
CP has nice stats and I think he’s playing pretty well overall.
You can’t disregard the fact that he’s playing in a Krapp offense and has no running game. You can’t disregard that the Raids don’t have a true nbr 1 WR.
BUT…
You also can not excuse the TWO very poor, boneheaded interceptions in CRUNCH TIME.
The one in ATL likely cost a win.
The one yesterday likely cost a win.
If you’re going to be ELITE, you have to get it done in the CLUTCH.
Either you get the job done – lead the team to the game winning score or don’t.
Carson did not.
And that’s the bottom, unalterable line.
So despite having good numbers and playing rather well under difficult circumstances, CP’s failure in the clutch in 2 key games can’t be overlooked.
Unfortunately, Palmer has a history of throwing these game altering picks in crucial moments.
An ELITE QB rises to the occasion and gets it done. It’s not going to be easy with all the negatives swirling around. But the ELITE QB finds a way. He lifts the team. He elevates the play around him.
Did CP LOSE the game for the Raids yesterday ? NO.
But he didn’t WIN it.
He can NOT turn the ball over when the game is on the line. End of story.
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I give you the ATL one , but even if yesterdays int cost us the win , i still believe it was him that even kept us in the game
November 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I thought her head was going to explode when on 3rd & 5 they threw it 3 yds, and dude was tackled on the spot. Damn.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The interception was on the 2nd down, and had Palmer threw it away, it would have resulted in most likely intentional ground since he was inside the hash marks, had he taken the sack , it would have resulted in 3rd and more than 15 yards to go
November 5th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Too bad Chris Ivory wasn’t available…
November 5th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I thought her head was going to explode when on 3rd & 5 they threw it 3 yds, and dude was tackled on the spot. Damn.
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So you wanted him to wait for him to hold onto the ball until the other receivers get open and by that time D line is there and saying hi to him
November 5th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I thought her head was going to explode when on 3rd & 5 they threw it 3 yds, and dude was tackled on the spot. Damn.
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Nah, the protective bowl cut would’ve at least kept her skull intact
November 5th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Our receivers freaking run horrible routes, and they don’t even know some of the routes, they can’t do any hot routes in case of blitz , they are responsible for 50% of the Palmer Int’s and responsible for dropping like 5 Palmer TD”S
November 5th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
So you wanted him to wait for him to hold onto the ball until the other receivers get open and by that time D line is there and saying hi to him
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Call fking plays to the sticks on 3rd down. That’s what I want.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Unless Aaron Curry can run the ball in the ZBS, I would say that he is probably going to be hitting the bricks.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Palmer is NOT by any stretch an ELITE QB to even speak in those terms is very premature. But he is a very capable and astute general that you can win with. But to take the game and leave it in his hands with ZERO HELP is IMO very very stupid. YOU know this passing game is still in the developmental stages you have to give him the needed help to be successful. To leave Palmer without a tough inside runner was asking for trouble.
Listen Palmer is very very simialar to Plunkett and Lamonica he is NOT a stat machine or an efficient QB who’s going to protect the football and take what the defense gives. Palmers game is to go for your jugular and hit it big. That is WHO HE IS!….period
Asking him to augment your running game with dinks and dunks will only frustrate him. You have to have a very good to greta running game and let Palmer get the big play over the top and to attack the defense and keep it off your running game. Now if you ask him to do something other than that well that’s YOUR FAULT!
Get a RUNNING GAME I’ve said form day one DMC is NOT a inside running power running game HB he is a speed back lethal weapon who can supply your offense with a ton of bigplay potential. If you try to use him as a feature back THAT IS YOU FAULT!! Because he will break down and you’ll kill his career I said it the dayu we drafted him and that is WHY I didn’t wnat him that high.
Now it’s up to the OC to figure this crap out and use the talent accordingly or else keep LOSING…………period
November 5th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Yesterday was a Classic meltdown cluster Fk….
November 5th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says: We didn’t hear much about Mistic’s fascination with Freeman when he lost 9 games in a row last year.
Last year is ancient history to a teenager. Wave of the future just started this year. Athletes today are waaay better than a decade ago. Teams from the ’70’s and 80’s ?..might as well be wearing leather helmets.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
So you wanted him to wait for him to hold onto the ball until the other receivers get open and by that time D line is there and saying hi to him
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Call fking plays to the sticks on 3rd down. That’s what I want.
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they are intentionally calling plays that won’t work ? most of the plays are designed to get more than enough yards and then some are designed to go underneath and gain yards after the catch, can’t do anything if the guys who are running longer routes are not getting open , and only open guys get tackled right before the stick… learn some football KK , this is not madden 13
November 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I give you the ATL one , but even if yesterdays int cost us the win , i still believe it was him that even kept us in the game
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Yes, CP kept us in the game yesterday. Kept coming back and coming back.
But with the game on the line – he came up short.
Can’t come up SMALL in the BIG moments and be ELITE.
If you’re going to climb the mountain, then get to the summit dammit.
CP’s last pick was inexcusable. Deflating. Game over.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Too late to trade anybody.. we fùcked up
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At least somebody appreciates your comments.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Yo, any of you Nerds know how to clean corn dog stains out of a stretch limo?
Was totally wasted at the Lake Show game last night, after the W, packed my bizzies in the ride and headed off to Weinerschnitzel
And of course, the ho’s just threw their corn dogs away when they realized the Beeeech Lawg was open for business
Guess that’s why they call it the blues
November 5th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I give you the ATL one , but even if yesterdays int cost us the win , i still believe it was him that even kept us in the game
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Yes, CP kept us in the game yesterday. Kept coming back and coming back.
But with the game on the line – he came up short.
Can’t come up SMALL in the BIG moments and be ELITE.
If you’re going to climb the mountain, then get to the summit dammit.
CP’s last pick was inexcusable. Deflating. Game over.
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Yeah but it was 2nd down , and pressure up his grill , throwing the pass away most likely leads to intentional grounding and sack is not an option, there wasn’t a good check down option either, every one was running uphill , i blame that on stupid play calling by OC , we should have called a screen on the 1st play or a Rb draw, would have def gained a few yards and we would have been in manageable 2nd down situation and then could have done anything from there, i blame all that on the play calling and receivers inability to run real routes
November 5th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Too late to trade anybody.. we fùcked up
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I don’t condone profanity nor use it. But this is the most accurate and concise statement heretofore.
At least somebody appreciates your comments.
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I was calling for DMac to be traded the last two weeks. Should have done it.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Normal blog idiocy….focusing on the wrong issue after a loss.
This loss was 100% on the defense, and everyone is talking about Palmer lol.
Dumbest fans in America!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Yo, any of you Nerds know how to clean corn dog stains out of a stretch limo?
Was totally wasted at the Lake Show game last night, after the W, packed my bizzies in the ride and headed off to Weinerschnitzel
And of course, the ho’s just threw their corn dogs away when they realized the Beeeech Lawg was open for business
Guess that’s why they call it the blues
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stupid question and just proves that you’re just a lame ass asking for attention in here, if you claim you own boats and all that , you take that Limo right into a car wash place and get it bleached, why would you try to work on it yourself , you freakin stupid comments expose your for who u are
November 5th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
There is plenty of talent to win games but great coaches don’t ask players to do something they cannot DO and to ask Palmer to throw 60 times is freaking ASININE. slow it down give him options run it EVEN if you don’t gain a yard but give him a play off here and there so he doesn’t feel like EVERY play is his to make.
You can win with ALEX SMITH dammit why can’t you win with Palmer unless you’re just tooo damn stupid as an OC to get it done.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Dakota Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Normal blog idiocy….focusing on the wrong issue after a loss.
This loss was 100% on the defense, and everyone is talking about Palmer lol.
Dumbest fans in America!
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Real Raiders fans know whats up , it’s just the trolls who only come here talking about our Qb every freaking day, so don’t confuse us with them trolls
November 5th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
The season is over realistically at 3-5. No way they catch denver.. let alone beat denver this year.
Its not like Raiders were gonna make a playoff deep push anyhow. Raiders still cant stop McGahee nor Manning.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Oh wait….the o-line sucked too….so it is probably only 90% the defense’s fault.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Palmer’s arm just fell off, it was either that or he got hit on the throw, that pass was off by 20 yards
November 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Carson is the best player on this team period, JFB.
I don’t care what you see.
ZBS is not for the Raiders.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
The one yesterday likely cost a win.
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RM99,
That theory only holds water if you assume that Palmer did what he did the rest of the game, which is ball the F out.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
The season is over realistically at 3-5. No way they catch denver.. let alone beat denver this year.
Its not like Raiders were gonna make a playoff deep push anyhow. Raiders still cant stop McGahee nor Manning.
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So what should we do ? give up and get better draft position ? What has the better draft position done for us in the last 10 years?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Too late to trade anybody.. we fùcked up
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I don’t condone profanity nor use it. But this is the most accurate and concise statement heretofore.
At least somebody appreciates your comments
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It wasn’t my comment it was Mark’s Hair I was saying it was spot on. Although profane…
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November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hey Beeech, have you checked out Dr. Robert’s facebook page yet? There is a classic picture of Rob on there..
November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
beechy dawg got a job waiting tables for this caterer and decided to make some extra money blowing this old geezer in a limo out back. but it made a mess and now he has to pay for it
November 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Couldn’t have said it better myself, Priest.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
96.Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
There is plenty of talent to win games but great coaches don’t ask players to do something they cannot DO and to ask Palmer to throw 60 times is freaking ASININE. slow it down give him options run it EVEN if you don’t gain a yard but give him a play off here and there so he doesn’t feel like EVERY play is his to make.
You can win with ALEX SMITH dammit why can’t you win with Palmer unless you’re just tooo damn stupid as an OC to get it done.
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Good Post!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
Palmer did great, don’t forget his 1st half TD pass to Hagan that was negated by Smith holding ========================
And the funny part was, from what I could see on the two replays, was Smiths’ guy pressuring Palmer. If it was, Smith can’t even hold well.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Palmer got nailed by Smith’s man and the reciever made absolutely no play on the ball.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Krapp LOVES throwing short of the sticks.
That’s been his M.O. all through the pre-season when everyone was saying ‘he’s just not showing anything now’ – and it’s remained his M.O. through the regular season.
My favorite Krapp ‘throw it short of the sticks’ moment this year came in game one.
Remember the 1 yard pass to Myers in the left flat on 3rd and 3 ? That was a beauty !
No first down. Punt time. Punt blocked.
Great play calling, coordinating and coaching.
“Didn’t want to tip his hand in the pre-season” huh ?
LMAO.
Same Krapp in the regular season.
Won’t be seeing that Krapp in the POST season, cuz we ain’t getting there.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Put Palmer on the 49ers and they win the SB.
So we just need a great defense!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Here’s a little known fact;
Palmer is 2-17 when throwing over 40 passes……….now do you get my drift he’s just not what top shelf efficient passer. he’s more like Eli Manning instead of Peyton Manning the more you put on him is when he starts to falter.
Eli will throw some crazy picks pick scare the crap out of you with his arm. Peyton will efficiently slice you to pieces like Montana with very few mistakes. You have to know who your player is.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Palmer also had to chuck up that 2 pt conversion before he got killed.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
McBroke 20, excellent question. Shows your love for all things Beeeech Diggity
I would never let my fabulous stretch limo be touched by mindless car wash dorks
My bizzies from Spearmint Rhino take care of all household duties, and that includes, of course pleasuring the Beeeech Lawg*
*all 12 inches of it, woot woot
November 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
sad. the palmer apologist simply cant come to grips with the failure that is the carson trade. Instead of being able to admit that 28 turn overs and 7 wins in 18 games is abysmal, they want to blame a dead al davis, wide receivers , o-line, ghandi, mcdevils frnech fries the tooth fairy and so on.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Fact of the matter is the pass protection was not there at all, especially in the 4th quarter. Palmer had to take chances on throws right before he got hit. We got away with it and even got away with it on that 2 point conversion. But being this a young team with young WRs, it bit us in the a$$ at the end. I have no problem with yesterday’s offense. It was good to see our offense can move and score at will when we stopped force feeding DMAC. Our Oline is not very good right now. We are better off dinking and dunking to set up the draw play. Even Reece got a few good runs as the RB.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
The 49er is a very astute strategist we have a bonehead for a strategist……period
November 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Here’s a little known fact;
Palmer is 2-17 when throwing over 40 passes…
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If you are heaving the rock up 40+ in a game, there is a 99.99% chance you are down in that game. So, that is kind of a hallow stat.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
You can win with ALEX SMITH dammit why can’t you win with Palmer unless you’re just tooo damn stupid as an OC to get it done.
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Bingo! And there is the problem with Mistic’s logic. Palmer >>> Smith, yet Smith has victories because he’s on a good team with good coaching.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
It was either Palmer’s arm fell off , or receiver ran a wrong route , or he got hit in the process ,no way a pass is 20 yards off for any other reason , he was connecting on the fade routes all game long
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
He actually broke that tackle and was still standing when Criner reeled it in.
But a great play that could have been picked as well.
There’s always a good and a bad outcome.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Mcfadden20—don’t bother with beech. He knows he’s not real. For whatever reason, he has posted the same fantasy here for 7 years. He has admitted he thinks of himself as a “personality” that’s here to annoy people. He will never respond to logic. He repeatedly claims “beatdowns” and “meltdowns” from his “minions” that no sane person could ever see. He is an exercise in futility. A waste of time. There is unfortunately no way to block him and no way to argue with him. He is just like a retarded energizer bunny. And he hides behind anonymity so u can’t smash the bunny. Watch for his moronic response. And his constant over emphasis on strippers, etc. doesn’t hide his preoccupation for talking about ur weiner.
Just think of a closeted gay man who wishes to talk about weiners and other male parts to a bunch of guys. The easiest way to do it is make sure u talk a lot about getting laid by strippers. It disguises ur true intentions. Or at least at first glance. He’s very gay.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hey Beeech, have you checked out Dr. Robert’s facebook page yet? There is a classic picture of Rob on there..
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Please tell me you are serious
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
now the oline is an issue? right, we must have been spoiled by palmers predeccesor being so nimble and being able to extend plays with his feet. he made the oline look way better than it actually was. With palmer that stiff back there the oline has been exposed.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
beechy looked uber cute in his little black and white outfit working as a server. i don;t think anyone found out he was blowing old guys for money out in the lot
November 5th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
McBroke 20, excellent question. Shows your love for all things Beeeech Diggity
I would never let my fabulous stretch limo be touched by mindless car wash dorks
My bizzies from Spearmint Rhino take care of all household duties, and that includes, of course pleasuring the Beeeech Lawg*
*all 12 inches of it, woot woot
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I have hard time figuring out who’s worse on this blog Mistic , who only talks about getting rid of our Qb , or you who live in fantasy world
November 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
now the oline is an issue?
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Now? Have you seen the run stats and the QB pressure totals since the preseason?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Good news that Darren could be back soon.
The injury should never have happened.
We know that the ZBS takes three long hard years to implement correctly.
Does anyone wonder why Dennis was given a four year contract?
Most likely Reggie and Dennis discussed the offensive schemes that gave Dennis the most trouble when trying to defend against it in Denver.
Dennis knows that a four year contract gives him three years to get the ZBS scheme purring like a Rolls Royce engine in 4th gear.
Unfortunately the inconsistent early results has led to a diluting down of the scheme.
Diluting down (incorporating some mixed blocking) has been an absolute disaster and has led to the injury of our star running back.
Going with a mixed blocking scheme has just confused the players.
The Raiders must stick to the initial plan of pure ZBS and perfect it.
Our prototype engine is now clogged and needs to be cleansed.
The engine needs to be flushed and purified with new oil.
The loss of Wiz Snr has been a spanner in the works for far too long.
An assistant line coach must be brought in to help Frank implement the scheme.
The season is not over yet.
3&5 is unexpected but can be improved upon in the second half of the year.
Dilution has cost us dearly.
I Say no more dilution.
Go back to the original plan.
Go back to the three year blueprint.
Go back to Pure ZBS.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
You can win with ALEX SMITH dammit why can’t you win with Palmer unless you’re just tooo damn stupid as an OC to get it done.
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Bingo! And there is the problem with Mistic’s logic. Palmer >>> Smith, yet Smith has victories because he’s on a good team with good coaching.
mcfadden20. Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
It was either Palmer’s arm fell off , or receiver ran a wrong route , or he got hit in the process ,no way a pass is 20 yards off for any other reason , he was connecting on the fade routes all game long
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actually the answer is that palmer is a gutlesss turn over machine always has been. he is the tin man has no heart and will throw more picks to lose games in the crunch. he simply cant be trusted to throw it too often or when i counts.
maybe knapp should dumb down the offense and let him dink and dunk reading only half the field
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
The season is over realistically at 3-5. No way they catch denver.. let alone beat denver this year.=================
AFC may be wide open for the wild card spots. We will beat Denver, but unless the forehead gets hurt, the AFC West is gradually slipping away. Wild card team beat the Iggles 27-9, who was that? Oh, yeah, the Raiders.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hey Beeech, have you checked out Dr. Robert’s facebook page yet? There is a classic picture of Rob on there..
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Please tell me you are serious
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Robert-Beats-Down-Beeech/453327181376002?fref=ts
November 5th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
they are intentionally calling plays that won’t work ? most of the plays are designed to get more than enough yards and then some are designed to go underneath and gain yards after the catch, can’t do anything if the guys who are running longer routes are not getting open , and only open guys get tackled right before the stick… learn some football KK , this is not madden 13
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Been going to Raiders games before you were born, dumbass.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
now the oline is an issue?
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Now? Have you seen the run stats and the QB pressure totals since the preseason?
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the line has been an issue for years, it was far less noticeable with a mobile qb taking the snaps.
palmer is definitely a major down grade from 12-7
November 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Asking Palmer to dink & dunk all day is stupid as hell. That’s not his game.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Knapp has taken McFadden & Palmer out of their game to play his.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Mistic has become worse than Sullivan and beeech I think. No logic. No ability to have a conversation. Just a one note moron posting ad nauseum. Pitiful.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hey Beeech, have you checked out Dr. Robert’s facebook page yet? There is a classic picture of Rob on there..
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Please tell me you are serious
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Robert-Beats-Down-Beeech/453327181376002?fref=ts
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No way Nob Bust actually started that page, it’s gotta be the guy who did KrappyRat’s twitter
Even Nob – and this is saying a LOT – isn’t THAT big of a goober
Love the hipster uni-bomber wuss pic, though
November 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
The management basicall mismanaged the talent on this team and no one wants to admit it. Letting go of Bush was a BUGE mistake I said it when it happened.
ADMIT IT!!! Not having Bush is hurting the production on this offense and letting go of Murphy was also a mistake. But the basic misunderstanding by fans is they look at the stats these players put up on the teams they’re on now and assume it computes.
It doesn’t because the way we would have used them is totally different from their present teams. The Olineman we let go is hurting this team Bruce Campbell and Barksdale were MISTAKES. Tell me we couldn’t use Wimbley and I’ll call you a liar.
But Sir Reggie wants to establish his “OWN GUY” so he does a bunch of crap before assessing these players roles and I think made hasty decisions that are having ripple effects as we speak.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Palmer has only been sacked 14 times, one of the lowest numbers in the league.
We have a run blocking issue, and a RT issue.
Besides that, Palmer balled yesterday and came up short period.
The question I have is why do we only move the ball when we have to?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: he is the tin man has no heart.==
Mistic, will you say, outright and for the record that Carson Palmer has no heart?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
this guy is saying exactly what i told you leading into the bucs game
The Raiders are a very flawed football team that plays undisciplined, inept football on a week-to-week basis and are lucky enough to have faced two of the worst teams in the league in the first half and a Pittsburgh Steelers team without its best defensive player.
Through seven games, it’s clear that Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen will have to turn over a large portion of the roster for this team to become anything more than mediocre. The glimpses of greatness show what happens when the players execute as a team, but there are far too many breakdowns from week to week.
The 2012 Oakland Raiders have now revealed their true character. They have trouble executing even the most simple of plays, and that makes the job of the coaches that much more difficult. The Raiders are a bad football team right now and have a long way to go before even becoming an average football team capable of beating teams like the Bucs at home. – christopher hansen
November 5th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Mistic1,
Give Palmer a little credit for christs sakes. Anyone who watched the game knows he was the best player and leader in a black jersey.
Get off the damn soapbox, for real.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hey Beeech, have you checked out Dr. Robert’s facebook page yet? There is a classic picture of Rob on there..
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Please tell me you are serious
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Robert-Beats-Down-Beeech/453327181376002?fref=ts
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No way Nob Bust actually started that page, it’s gotta be the guy who did KrappyRat’s twitter
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Even Nob – and this is saying a LOT – isn’t THAT big of a goober
Love the hipster uni-bomber wuss pic, though
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No, he posted the link and said that is his picture. He wants you to recognize him when you show up for your beat down.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
As for yesterday, the defense lost the game. McClain was a big culprit again. Although the bucks offense is red hot. The run game was ridiculously bad. Palmer was fantastic. A bad pick at the end but as those two final deep throws were happening, I was saying “why are we fuxking throwing deep right now”? Plenty of time. Down 3. Get into GF range with some first downs and them try to get closer. Take the Ted if u can but get the fg for sure. I like the zbs. I don’t think it’s why the run game sucks. But knapps play calling is very questionable.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Palmer is now on pace for 4900 yds.
I know it don’t matter. I just want Mistic1 to read it.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Man I can’t type so words get routinely misspelled………lol
November 5th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
As for yesterday, the defense lost the game. McClain was a big culprit again. Although the bucks offense is red hot. The run game was ridiculously bad. Palmer was fantastic. A bad pick at the end but as those two final deep throws were happening, I was saying “why are we fuxking throwing deep right now”? Plenty of time. Down 3. Get into GF range with some first downs and them try to get closer. Take the Ted if u can but get the fg for sure. I like the zbs. I don’t think it’s why the run game sucks. But knapps play calling is very questionable.
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I completely agree.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RAIDS +7.5 vs. Ravens
O/U 46
O/U on Ray Rice rushing yards: 592
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Here’s a little known fact;
Palmer is 2-17 when throwing over 40 passes……….
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It’s “little known” because it is complete bullshid.
Not that it is much better, but I have him at 4 wins in his career with 40 passes, and another 6 with 38 or 39 pass attempts.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PalmCa00.htm
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Asking Palmer to dink & dunk all day is stupid as hell. That’s not his game.
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kell, he has been far better dinking and dunking then trying to go deep. he avoided turnover when playing the short game , we saw waht happens when he goes no huddle and starts flinging it. he looked yesterday like he looked most of last year…like trash
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
4900 yards and a losing record woopee!!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
wonder how many disasters it will take to finally send krappy to the high school ranks?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Knapp calls plays that my chick calls out before the snap.
Seriously, she recognized that draw to Taiwann right after they got into formation.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Nob Minion, last week when you had your hysterical EPIC MELTDOWN (remember, everyone on the blog was mercilessly bagging on you) and you ran away promising to start a facebook page?
Looks like the same dude behind KrappyRat’s Twitter did it for you.
Don’t worry, even the all mighty Beeeeech Diggity Dawg is pretty sure you’re not a big enough dork to actually do something that pathetic
I mean, you’d be cementing your “Blog Punching Bag” status forever, yes?
But feel free to make the PMPP’s year and claim it, that would be so freakin’ awesome
November 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Thats why I said I know it don’t matter, Priest.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Raider E Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Palmer is now on pace for 4900 yds.
I know it don’t matter. I just want Mistic1 to read it.
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lol who cares about yardage totals in a loss and with all the turn overs?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Raider E Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Palmer is now on pace for 4900 yds.
I know it don’t matter. I just want Mistic1 to read it.
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Who gives a fk? seriously?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
beechy dawg made more money blowing old geezers than he did waiting tables for that caterer. and no one found out
November 5th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Hey, remember that Corky is the prime lover of Palmer, he just told us that Palmer is having a “career” season. Yes, with inflated stats just like yesterday’s.
That less known fact 2-17 when throwing over 40 passes is the most telling, of course Palmer will throw over 4,000 yards, but the team will continue to lose as he does. He’ll look really good when the season is over.
And it’s not like Tampon Bay had top notch defensive backs.
Obviously, the main problem yesterday was that defense couldn’t recovered from the Doug Martin stump. I couldn’t believe it when the defense gave up early in the 3rd quarter. How could that be? The Raiders finally have a defensive type head coach and a supposedly top notch defensive coordinator. Can you imagine the type of crap that Chuck Bresh or Mr. Davis would be having by now?
But, nothing on the defensive boy genius.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Mistic1,
How about when he flung it to DHB for a one handed catch, then 2 plays later for a TD to Streater?
Both perfectly thrown balls.
Did we all know what to expect?
Nevermind, aren’t you late for Zumba?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
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November 5th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
lol who cares about yardage totals in a loss and with all the turn overs?
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Gotcha
read the whole post
November 5th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Mistic doesn’t realize that teams win and lose games. Alex smith is the perfect example. Of course his two man-crushes, cam and rg3, have a combined record of 5-12. Oh wait. Dammit. I keep thinking logic will mean anything to him.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Asking Palmer to dink & dunk all day is stupid as hell. That’s not his game.
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kell, he has been far better dinking and dunking then trying to go deep. he avoided turnover when playing the short game , we saw waht happens when he goes no huddle and starts flinging it. he looked yesterday like he looked most of last year…like trash
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Totally agree with KK on this one Mistic1, Palmer may not be elite but he is good enough to win big with. Like you I liked JC and thought he never got the credit he deserved in here. On this team in this system JC would be tailored made for it. It caters to his talent. He would be sensational in this system because he would augment the runng game with short passes. Palmer wil get frustrated and take shots he shouldn’t you saw it yesterday.
The coaches are IMO seriously at fault here due to there insistence on asking players to play beyond their talent level. This passing isn’t ready for primetime but it’s good enough to help a greta running game if the coaches would’ve kept the running game here.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: he is the tin man has no heart.==
Mistic, will you say, outright and for the record that Carson Palmer has no heart?
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
actually the answer is that palmer is a gutlesss turn over machine always has been. he is the tin man has no heart.
C’mon Mistic, you said it. Endorse it. Just for us bloggers. On the record. Are you that gutless? Does the phrase ‘courage of your convictions’ mean anything to you?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Seriously though, what is the deal with only being able to move the ball when we are down by 10 or more?
Pitt game, Jax game, and now the TB game….
Someone needs to fire up all 11 guys on O before the damn game.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
Who gives a fk? seriously?=================
Probably a Raider fan. Why are you here, again?
November 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Oh, no. I was here ‘In The Beginning’.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Priest–Campbell has never been “sensational” in the nfl. Ever.
But then again, u were saying Reggie never found a good running back in Green Bay. Then I posted proof that Ajman green and Ryan grant posted 1000 yard seasons for 9 of the last 12 seasons. U disappeared.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Inflated stats? Like his 3 fourth quarter TDs?
And a two point conversion.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
New post
November 5th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
One of the glaring differences between our “D” and TB was that their open field tackling was far superior, in that they tackled below the waist, where we were playing some kinda’ touch/flag football defense. Player can’t move if your wrapped around their legs. Romac’s positioning when that TB rookie was slashing through our line was absolutely awful, and please Reg don’t bring Routt back!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
even D.A admits that carson sucked balls yesterday
“I think he said this yesterday, and he’d say it again today that there were a couple of throws in that game that he wished he had back, that maybe weren’t the best decisions.” d.a
November 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Raider E, it might have to do with the fact that the other teams let the Raiders have short passes at will and the Raiders stop trying to use the “running” game.
Those 3 wins are looking better as the season goes on. Pity the Raiders didn’t win the Condo game.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says: It’s “little known” because it is complete bullshid.====================================
Some people make stuff up in here? I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Palmer smarmer,,,the reason we lost yesterday and before WE DIDN’T BLOCK AND TACKLE….
November 5th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Palmer cost this team the W plain and simple, nothing against him but he will win you as many games as losses. I thought Palmer seemed to anxious on that last drive, should had continue dumping short passes to Reece, the team rushed throwing it on First down. face it at best this team is going 7-9 we will be lucky to go 9-7 or even 8-8.
November 5th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
when did bryant go out?
is that why the dline suddenly sucked so badly?