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  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Yeah maybe Palmer throws int on some throws and JC instead goes 3 n out ,the ball is still turned over to other team , no freaking difference,
    ================

    huh????? no difference? what are you basing this on her it is in print

    jc 12-7

    palmer 7-11

    i would say there is quite a differnce

    palmer 26 tds 28 turn overs

    jc 23 tds 18 turn overs

    palmer 3 in the afc west

    jc 1st place in the afc west

    jc 6-0 in the division

    palmer 3-4 in the division

    stop it bra any way you slice the bread, palmer is toast in this comparison

  • guest123

    Election season brings out the worst in people. I’ll be glad when it’s over. don’t care anymore who wins. Tired of all the BS

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Guest123 Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am
    Election season brings out the worst in people. I’ll be glad when it’s over. don’t care anymore who wins. Tired of all the BS

    =============================================

    It’s never over. Remember: we’re only 3 years and 2 months away from Iowa…

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    THINK I WILL SELL MY TV AND MY IPOD.ENTERTAINMENT VALUE ON THIS BLOG JUST ABOUT COVERS EVERYTHING..NOT SURE IF I SHOULD LAUGH OR CRY SOMETIMES THOUGH.

  • Marks hair

    Hey look at that, good players drop balls somtimes. OCs still need to score tds.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20841003/raiders-midseason-awards-qb-carson-palmer-on-record-pace–

    CBS Sports names Greg Knapp the Raiders’ best assistant coach so far this year, based largely on our pretty-good passing game.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    “There are more reasons to why Palmer did not have winning record”.
    ……………………………

    classic hater move. you want ignore what jc did and give credit for his wins to someone else.

    Then in the same breath you want to elevate palmer and give the blame for his losses to someone else.

    you trash the guy that won nearly double the games as your hero in the same amount of time. The guy that was much better at protecting the ball and had us in first place and on the way to the playoffs.

    you have been exposed

    Exposed ? exposed for what ? It’s a team game , teams win games ,
    =================

    then you must give credit where credit is due. jc won more, and had a better td to turn over ratio. he has played the better football over the same stretch of games. how else do you measure it?

    lol let me guess yardage totals and near comeback wins

    like i said exposed

  • mcfadden20.

    Yo Stop freaking defending JC , he was not good , he was not the reason we freakin won yes he was better than all the scrubs we had before him but he’s in now way better than Palmer , even he would tell you that , stop bringing up his record , if it was due to him why we won he would have been starting some where , T Dilfer was let go following a SB winning year , nobody freaking signed him , cuz they are not dumb like you Mistic , people know it 53 guys game n he was def not responsible for their championship

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Guest123 Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Election season brings out the worst in people. I’ll be glad when it’s over. don’t care anymore who wins. Tired of all the BS
    —————————
    Don’t care who wins????? pretty sad.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: you trash the guy that won nearly double the games as your hero in the same amount of time. ===

    You’re slipping, Mistic. That’s ‘golden haired hero’ to you.

  • Marks hair

    Punts are not as bad a turnovers.. but i would still take cp3 over jc.. jc missed the football field on over half his deep throws. Anything over 20 yds was like a catapult from drunken marauders..

  • Raider4Life209

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    THINK I WILL SELL MY TV AND MY IPOD.ENTERTAINMENT VALUE ON THIS BLOG JUST ABOUT COVERS EVERYTHING..NOT SURE IF I SHOULD LAUGH OR CRY SOMETIMES THOUGH.
    ———————

    My wife always says…”What could possibly be so funny on a football blog?” Darling, you have no idea!

  • mcfadden20.

    Dilfer was not the reason Bal won in 00 , Rob Johnson wasn’t the reason Tb won in 00,
    Anybody can be asked to control their freakin ints by handing off to Rb , you really believe Palmer wouldn’t have put up those winning #s with McFadden runnin wild? We would have had even better record

  • Plunketthead

    I stopped trying to guess who was running each troll because it will drive me nuts and in the end I dont have any proof.
    So I accept everyone at face value now and dont worry about it. I ignore most trolls and I feed one or two now and then.

    But someone asked about MR and I got to wondering.
    Well he is right there in front of our faces, as usual.
    He didnt go anywhere

    Right, Supavillian?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    cant stress enough how important it is for a qb to protect the ball first.

    5 multi pick games out of 18 is unacceptable. In those five games 3 of them featured 3 ints. 1 of the games he logged a miserable 4 ints.

    IN FACT PALMER HAS ONLY PLAYED 4/18 GAMES WITHOUT A PICK!!!!!!

    that is bruce gradkowski, rick mirer, donald hollas kyle boller bad

  • guest123

    KoolKell Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Guest123 Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Election season brings out the worst in people. I’ll be glad when it’s over. don’t care anymore who wins. Tired of all the BS
    —————————
    Don’t care who wins????? pretty sad.

    ********

    No, and I’ll tell you why. I’ve seen politics up close and politicians up close and see how it all falls out. In the end, ideals are sold down the river for whatever the going rate is for an interested parties cause. They call it pragmatism, but it’s just people in high places with no backbones and no morals. Laws are for sale and the principles of our forefathers are laughed at as arcane.

    take the blinders off. they all talk and talk and talk some more. It’s the same BS whether it’s colored blue or its colored red.

  • mcfadden20.

    Tb in 02 ^^^^***

  • DMAC

    Mistic
    Enough of this Campbell talk….

    What were your thoughts about Vince Evans when he played for the Silver and Black?

    Was he your hero?
    Was he garbage?
    No comment?
    Thoughts?

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    POST-416,WELL SAID..

  • DMAC

    guest123 Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    KoolKell Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Guest123 Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Election season brings out the worst in people. I’ll be glad when it’s over. don’t care anymore who wins. Tired of all the BS
    —————————
    Don’t care who wins????? pretty sad.

    ********

    No, and I’ll tell you why. I’ve seen politics up close and politicians up close and see how it all falls out. In the end, ideals are sold down the river for whatever the going rate is for an interested parties cause. They call it pragmatism, but it’s just people in high places with no backbones and no morals. Laws are for sale and the principles of our forefathers are laughed at as arcane.

    take the blinders off. they all talk and talk and talk some more. It’s the same BS whether it’s colored blue or its colored red.
    ===========

    Vote Green for the 2016!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    Can’t stress the importance of protecting the ball? That’s not the reason we lost , we went down 18 before Palmer threw his 1st int , yes jC would have had a shiny 2 TDs and 0 int game with the score TB 55 -Raiders 20

  • DMAC

    Dirt Lot

    How much you want for that Ipod man?

  • guest123

    I tell you what else I am not going to miss. Politicians throwing up prime time ads about abortion, gay marriage, tough laws against rapists. It’s objectionable to have to listen to that crap with your 8 yo daughter. It’s like the stupid viagra commercials on NFL games. Why do they have to embarrass the “grownups with kids” like that? This generation is gone to the sewer. It’s standards have dropped to the bottom level across the board. And I blame objectionable political TV ads as much as anything.

  • mcfadden20.

    Well said guest that’s how I feel , I don’t even know how Bush was voted in twice , you could tell he doesn’t give a fuk by just looking at his face , but atleast Clinton and other guys seemed like they cared and wanna change

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    IPOD TOUCH 64GB..MAKE OFFER..LOL

  • DMAC

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    IPOD TOUCH 64GB..MAKE OFFER..LOL
    ======

    lol
    Give me a price and we’ll work from there
    Cuz I can offer $40
    LMAO

  • DMAC

    Or some greenery?
    lol

  • tonedeezy

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/30429/Raiders-DT-Bryant-hospitalized-with-fast-heartbeat/Default.aspx

    Bryant didn’t play in the 2nd half.

    The Bucs ran right at Kelly and Seymour, and scored 4 TDs real easily.

  • guest123

    Guys like Romney, they lived their whole life on ambition to make money. It’s never enough money for them either. They aren’t ever satisfied. Now he’s all of sudden a good guy public servant interested in the common good and the middle class bloke living paycheck to paycheck? He buys and sells those common people and charges a markup in the process like they were dumb cattle. But his followers believe he’s really concerned for people. He openly labels a group of people “47 percenters” as if they were bit actors with 2 dimensions. He scoffs at their petty problems and is above it all. Nice. Freaking jerk.

  • DMAC

    Vote Green!
    Join the team!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Marks hair Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Punts are not as bad a turnovers.. but i would still take cp3 over jc.. jc missed the football field on over half his deep throws. Anything over 20 yds was like a catapult from drunken marauders..
    =============

    im afraid i cant let you say this, it is completely untrue. In fact Jc was better throwing deep than palmer is now. Dont believe? Lets stake a look

    Palmer passes 20-30 yards 21% cmp 0 tds o ints
    30-40 yards 11%cmp otds 1 int

    Plamer does not have an attempt of 40 yards or more this season

    Jc passes 20-30 yards 28 % 0tds 0int
    30-40 yrads 16% 0tds 0int
    40 yards plus 25% 1 td 2 int

    As you can see her jc threw the ball further and completed a much higher percentage of passes going deep.

    guys we really shouldnt keep doing this it only exposes you as haters, because the facts are documented

  • mcfadden20.

    If Mistic was a ravens fan in 00 and T Dilfer was black , he would have been going around calling Dilfer HOF QB and the reason why they won the SB , he would have had hard time wrapping his head around why Ravena let that HOF QB go after he won the SB

  • bcz24

    stop it bra any way you slice the bread, palmer is toast in this comparison
    ******************
    Lets look at the REAL facts here.

    2012 starts:

    Carson – 8
    JC – 0

    Palmer is getting paid to fight for victories. Campbell is getting paid to carry Cutlers jockstrap.

  • inonewordraider

    ********

    No, and I’ll tell you why. I’ve seen politics up close and politicians up close and see how it all falls out. In the end, ideals are sold down the river for whatever the going rate is for an interested parties cause. They call it pragmatism, but it’s just people in high places with no backbones and no morals. Laws are for sale and the principles of our forefathers are laughed at as arcane.

    take the blinders off. they all talk and talk and talk some more. It’s the same BS whether it’s colored blue or its colored red.
    ___________
    can’t get elected without lots of money, then you owe lots of favors, me or you would have to do the same if we were to be elected. we should do what england does, yes another country can have a good idea, and only allow campaigning for say 6 months then we might actually elect the best candiadte not the one who has the most to spend and he won’t owe as many favors. or create a cap on political donation from an individual or corporation to say 1 mill max dare i say less? that would change everything, so let’s quit complaining and do something

  • guest123

    Imagine how much money could be collected to pay down the Nat’l debt if all the money spent on politcal campaigns were funneled to the US treasury?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Dilfer was not the reason Bal won in 00 , Rob Johnson wasn’t the reason Tb won in 00,
    Anybody can be asked to control their freakin ints by handing off to Rb , you really believe Palmer wouldn’t have put up those winning #s with McFadden runnin wild? We would have had even better record
    ============

    your argument is flimsy, it is predicated on ifs, buts and make beleive scenarios. my argument used DOCUMENTED FACTS.

    besides bush last year played better than dmac is this year and palmer still had us out of the playoffs. it appers to me no matter who is the back field palmer cant win consistently corey dillon, rudy johnson, cedric benson, dmac m bush

  • inonewordraider

    im afraid i cant let you say this, it is completely untrue. In fact Jc was better throwing deep than palmer is now. Dont believe? Lets stake a look

    Palmer passes 20-30 yards 21% cmp 0 tds o ints
    30-40 yards 11%cmp otds 1 int

    Plamer does not have an attempt of 40 yards or more this season

    Jc passes 20-30 yards 28 % 0tds 0int
    30-40 yrads 16% 0tds 0int
    40 yards plus 25% 1 td 2 int

    As you can see her jc threw the ball further and completed a much higher percentage of passes going deep.

    guys we really shouldnt keep doing this it only exposes you as haters, because the facts are documented
    __________________
    you still doing this?

    then palmer is a much better winner this year than rgIII or cam, much better at protecting the ball which is vital than mike vick, cam, or russell wilson, better qb rating than those guys as well. and owe yeah he starts while jc joe webb troy smith and jamarcus sit

  • mcfadden20.

    Vote Green!
    Join the team!

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Marks hair Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Punts are not as bad a turnovers.. but i would still take cp3 over jc.. jc missed the football field on over half his deep throws. Anything over 20 yds was like a catapult from drunken marauders..
    =============

    im afraid i cant let you say this, it is completely untrue. In fact Jc was better throwing deep than palmer is now. Dont believe? Lets stake a look

    Palmer passes 20-30 yards 21% cmp 0 tds o ints
    30-40 yards 11%cmp otds 1 int

    Plamer does not have an attempt of 40 yards or more this season

    Jc passes 20-30 yards 28 % 0tds 0int
    30-40 yrads 16% 0tds 0int
    40 yards plus 25% 1 td 2 int

    As you can see her jc threw the ball further and completed a much higher percentage of passes going deep.

    guys we really shouldnt keep doing this it only exposes you as haters, because the facts are documented
    —-
    Yeah I guess the running game was not a big factor in that right ? Right lemme guess D’s don’t bite play action when the running game is going ,right ? Anything else you want to tell us

  • bcz24

    So Mistic, you are a better talent evaluator than the guys employed by the 32 NFL clubs? You know more about QB play than these guys? No one offered JC a starting gig after the ‘magic’ he performed here.

    Did you just post a stat that says Palmer has ZERO TD passes of longer than 20 yards as a Raider?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    bcz24 Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    stop it bra any way you slice the bread, palmer is toast in this comparison
    ******************
    Lets look at the REAL facts here.

    2012 starts:

    Carson – 8
    JC – 0

    Palmer is getting paid to fight for victories. Campbell is getting paid to carry Cutlers jockstrap.
    ==============

    not relevant to the thread. they brought him up and tried to trash him i proved that he played better as a raider than palmer has.

    truth hurts

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Vote Green!
    Join the team!

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Marks hair Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Punts are not as bad a turnovers.. but i would still take cp3 over jc.. jc missed the football field on over half his deep throws. Anything over 20 yds was like a catapult from drunken marauders..
    =============

    im afraid i cant let you say this, it is completely untrue. In fact Jc was better throwing deep than palmer is now. Dont believe? Lets stake a look

    Palmer passes 20-30 yards 21% cmp 0 tds o ints
    30-40 yards 11%cmp otds 1 int

    Plamer does not have an attempt of 40 yards or more this season

    Jc passes 20-30 yards 28 % 0tds 0int
    30-40 yrads 16% 0tds 0int
    40 yards plus 25% 1 td 2 int

    As you can see her jc threw the ball further and completed a much higher percentage of passes going deep.

    guys we really shouldnt keep doing this it only exposes you as haters, because the facts are documented
    —-
    Yeah I guess the running game was not a big factor in that right ? Right lemme guess D’s don’t bite play action when the running game is going ,right ? Anything else you want to tell us
    ========================

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! THAT IS YOUR EXCUSE?!?!?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    that was weak even for you

  • hwnrdr

    Wow…just friggen wow! LOL…
    Come on, are we really hat bored today???

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    lol im out fellas, you cats should stop trashing the guy that won and protected the ball while enjoying first place in the afc west.

    Palmer hasnt met the standard the numbers dont lie

  • Marks hair

    Im not a jc hater i just never seen a qb hit ob with so many deep balls. it brought me back to the j shroder yrs. Id take cp3 first is all.. but his ints are mostly just dumb passes. Both guys make my stomach hurt at times.

  • bcz24

    not relevant to the thread. they brought him up and tried to trash him i proved that he played better as a raider than palmer has.

    truth hurts
    ***********************
    Not really. You know why? It doesn’t hurt us at all because we all WANT Palmer as our QB. The only Campbell supporter is you. Truth hurts that your boy cant get a job huh…

    Truth hurts that despite your stats, your boy is still a clipboard holder.

    Truth hurts that despite your stats, Palmer is still starting here.

    The truth will hurt next year when Palmer CONTINUES to start as a Raider.

  • inonewordraider

    not relevant to the thread. they brought him up and tried to trash him i proved that he played better as a raider than palmer has.

    truth hurts
    ____________________
    cp throws another game deciding pic this year and f him, might be leinert time. what hurts to me is raiders lose and what hurts to you is the amount of wins netted by your beloved

    RGIII
    Cam Newton
    and
    the complete disaster that is
    Michael Vick

  • mcfadden20.

    Yah Mistic run like a B when your losing all your arguements

  • Raider4Life209

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    “….and palmer still had us out of the playoffs.”

    Man do you believe your own lies.

    Career wise, Palmer has over double the TD’s, double the YDS, A higher overall QB rating, and only 30 or so more INT’s. That’s in only a 2 season advantage over JC. So, in your case, numbers do lie don’t they?

  • bcz24

    lol im out fellas, you cats should stop trashing the guy that won and protected the ball while enjoying first place in the afc west.

    Palmer hasnt met the standard the numbers dont lie
    ********************
    Get off the clipboard holders nuts, or go root for Da Bears. You can cry how Cutler throws INTs and the soup can never gets his chance!

  • inonewordraider

    RGIII
    Cam Newton
    Michael Vick

    “new wave” of below .500 qb’s?