Jones prepares for increased workload; Curry plans to bring passion
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, November 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
With Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson in question, second-year running back Taiwan Jones is preparing for an opportunity that he has waited for the past 1 1/2 seasons.
To be clear, Raiders coach Dennis Allen isn’t ruling out McFadden or Goodson for Sunday’s game against the Baltimore Ravens. But, for now, all eyes are on Jones as he steps to the forefront in his teammates’ absence.
“I’m definitely excited,” Jones said. “There’s definitely an opportunity for me to extend my role on the team. I’m getting the opportunity, so I want to make the most of it.”
Jones has been limited to one carry this season in the first eight games. He rushed 16 times for 73 yards last season as a rookie.
With the departure of Michael Bush in free agency, Jones was given a shot at the No. 2 spot in an open competition against Goodson. Jones’ chances took a blow when he suffered a hamstring injury early in training camp.
Now, McFadden and Goodson are fresh from high-ankle sprains that they suffered against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday. All tests run on them returned negative.
Yet, they weren’t able to practice today. That left Jones and fullback Marcel Reece as the lone options at running back until further notice.
Jones isn’t the only one excited about the prospect of getting meaningful playing time. Quarterback Carson Palmer said he has waited for more than a year to see what Jones can do in a game.
Jones has spent most of his time this season on special teams, with the occasional touch on offense.
“I feel like I’ve been waiting forever,” Palmer said. “I can’t wait. He does amazing things in practice and he’s by far the fastest person on the field and he will be the fastest person on the field on Sunday. And not that you want to see guys get banged up, but I’m excited about the opportunity he’s getting.
“I feel like since I’ve been here, I’ve waited for him to get his opportunity, and it hasn’t worked out. And here it is. He’ll get his touches, and I can’t wait. He’s so electrifying. He puts his foot in the ground and goes. He wiggles out of hits, he wiggles out of tackles. Can’t wait to throw him the ball, get him in the open field. He’s so much fun to watch at practice it’s a long time coming.”
Jones said he is prepared for whatever kind of workload comes his way. Allen said he isn’t sure what to expect from Jones, if only because he hasn’t had ample opportunity to see what Jones can do in a game.
“He’s been a little up and down,” Allen said. “A little injury-prone, or injury-plagued, and so it’s been kind of tough to evaluate because he’s missed some time. But we got confidence in Taiwan, and if he’s called on to step in and play, then we fully anticipate him stepping in and perform and do his job.”
As for Jones’ ability to be an every-down back?
“That remains to be seen,” Allen said. “If he’s called on to do that, then that’s when we’ll know.”
– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour suffered a hamstring injury against the Buccaneers. It turned out to be worse than originally thought, Allen said.
As a result, Seymour missed practice today, and he is questionable for the Ravens game. Allen said he likely won’t get a better feel for whether Seymour can play through hamstring and knee issues until later in the week.
Fortunately for the Raiders, backup defensive tackle Desmond Bryant returned to practice today, so he is available to fill the void if Seymour can’t play.
Bryant was hospitalized Sunday after complaining of a fast, irregular heartbeat. He was released Monday, cleared a battery of tests Tuesday and back on the field today.
“I first noticed something was up at halftime,” Bryant said. “The first series on defense in the second half was the last time I played.”
A short time later, he was on his way to Eden Medical Center for observation and treatment.
Bryant said he wasn’t in any pain, just aware that his heart was working harder than normal to keep blood flowing to his body.
“I wouldn’t say it was scary,” Bryant said. “It surprised me, for sure. I expected to be out for maybe a series or maybe a couple of plays. The next thing I know, I’m being carted off to the hospital. It was upsetting for that to happen but, at the same time, it wasn’t scary.”
Dehydration is the suspected culprit, Bryant said. Makes perfect sense, given how warm it was Sunday.
“Obviously, they’re going to try to monitor it as much as they can,” Bryant said. “Apparently it’s not an uncommon thing to happen to athletes. Since it’s happened to me, I’ve had a number of different people say, ‘I’ve known this or that person who’s had the exact same thing happen to them.’ It’s more comforting to know that.
“At the same time, you don’t want your heart to be doing all that. I’ll try to do whatever I can, and I know the guys in the training room will do the same thing. I should be good to go.”
– Linebacker Aaron Curry practiced today as a member of Oakland’s 53-man roster for the first time. He was activated Tuesday after spending part of the offseason, all of training camp and the first nine weeks of the season rehabilitating his knees.
Curry said his knees got so bad that he had difficulty even walking up and down stairs. They reached that point because he spent too much time working out and playing football and not enough time taking taking care of his body, he said.
Now, Curry is thankful for the chance to return to the field and contribute in any way possible. He said he is game for playing special teams and at any of the three linebacker spots.
“I just want to be a bottle of energy and passion,” Curry said. “That’s what football is about. Playing defense is about energy, and it’s about bringing passion to the game, it’s about bringing passion to the team, it’s about being able to be relied on, be reliable to your teammates that you’ll always have something full of energy, whether it’s words, whether it’s plays, whether it’s encouragement. I just want to be a positive person.”
Allen said Curry’s presence gives defensive coordinator Jason Tarver the flexibility to rest outside linebackers Philip Wheeler and Miles Burris from time to time, a luxury Tarver hasn’t had in recent games.
Wheeler and Burris have been playing every defensive snap since middle linebacker Rolando McClain was taken out of the nickel package.
“As many good players as you can have, as many experienced players as you can have, the better off you’re going to be,” Allen said.
Curry searched far and wide for a way to cure his aching knees. He said he finally found the answer when he hooked up with Dr. Jack Johnson in Danville, and Johnson performed neuromuscular re-education.
The down time allowed Curry to rehab his knees as well as learn the game more in depth.
“I’ve had nothing else to do but study football, which has been good,” Curry said. “Which I think was the purpose of all this, was for me to learn football more in depth, to give myself an advantage, that when it’s time to go, I’ll be a step ahead of everybody.”
– Goodson was spotted with a walking boot on his right foot. It’s a long way from a walking boot Wednesday to playing in a game Sunday. However, Allen isn’t giving up hope just yet.
Goodson was unavailable for comment. Same goes for McFadden, who wasn’t seen during practice or the media-access window.
An MRI performed on Goodson’s ankle Monday returned negative, Allen said. Rookie Jeremy Stewart also is an option at running back, Allen said, if McFadden and Goodson can’t go.
“We’ve got some guys in-house that we feel like could step in if need be,” Allen said. “That’s the way it is anywhere in the NFL. It’s really a next-man-up philosophy, and we’re going to have to count on some guys to step up potentially and fill a bigger role. We’ll know more at the end of the week exactly what we’ve got to do.”
– Cornerback Ron Bartell is eligible to be activated Saturday and play Sunday against the Ravens. He has missed the past seven games while recovering from a shoulder injury.
“I feel real good about where Ron Bartell is,” Allen said.
Bartell practiced at his right cornerback spot today, and he said he is preparing as if he is going to play Sunday.
As for fellow starting cornerback Shawntae Spencer, Allen said: “He’s still not ready yet. But we’re making progress. Hopefully the progress will speed up in the next few days.”
Spencer moved around “better” Tuesday during an off-day workout designed to gauge his recovery from a foot injury he suffered Sept. 16. He has not practiced on played in a game since his injury.
– Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes practiced today for the first time in more than seven weeks. It remains to be seen whether he can get up to speed in time for Sunday’s game.
“Rusty, but improved,” Allen said in describing how Barnes looked at practice. “Improved. I’m optimistic. I’ll know more at the end of the week whether he’ll have a chance at this game or not.”
If Barnes can’t go, Allen’s options are: sticking with Willie Smith or giving rookie Tony Bergstrom his first shot at playing on offense in a regular-season game.
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November 7th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Yo, anyone seen Mrs. Brown today? Should we put out a bulletin to keep an eye out for an angry wingnut on the GG bridge?
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I’ll notify the Highway Patrol.
November 7th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Raiders
November 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Beech go back to work , you’re going to be fired or ur manager might except u back if you give him pmpp style BJ. Hahahaha
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Whoa, another sweet MELTDOWN
McFartin thanks for all the laughs, really enjoying this epic minion beat down
The pleasure is all mine btw, WHUT WHUT
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Hahaha your very delusional , now go serve the customers
November 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Who are the bootlickers? Whose boots are they licking? Please name one poster who blamed a blogger for a Raider loss.
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KoolKell Says: The people who whine about Mistic all day.====
Nobody whines, they just think he’s an idiot. However, you avoided the question. Care to actually answer it?
November 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
McCreamPuff, do your parents know you’re currently getting creaming by a dude named the Beeeech Dawg on a football blog?
Probably wouldn’t make them very proud of their cream puff, huh
Just sayin’
KEEPIN’ IT MO HIZZLE FRESH
November 7th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Cinco
November 7th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Taiwan Jones will come out of the Ravens game, legs where his head should be, head under his azzz…….
Poor kid.
November 7th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
So Kell, let me get this straight. You went to college at University of Washington and joined the Navy after college? Isn’t it usually the other way around? Were you trying to avoid the Vietnam War?
November 7th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
McCreamPuff, do your parents know you’re currently getting creaming by a dude named the Beeeech Dawg on a football blog?
Probably wouldn’t make them very proud of their cream puff, huh
Just sayin’
KEEPIN’ IT MO HIZZLE FRESH
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Hahhaa yes please keep the fries fresh or the customers going to be mad
November 7th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
yo
November 7th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RaidersOne Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Taiwan Jones will come out of the Ravens game, legs where his head should be, head under his azzz…….
Poor kid.
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That’s Dennis Allen’s way of punishing him for week 1 lol
November 7th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
B1tch dawg is prolly 16 enjoying life at his first job at Wendy’s writing lyrics on his break time ‘ and thinks life is all good ‘ b1tch has never been exposed to real so he thinks this blog is what’s real , he thinks every one is melting down in here , such a funny little delusional kid, I
November 7th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Sweet, just wrapped up the dope lyrics to my new reggae jam about keeping the spliff full of dirt weed
It’s like, hey, you’re hooking up with hot mommas who wanna get high, who CARES if the weeds any good?
Just let them hizzies smoke something, then you increase the chances of getting your pole waxed (major BJ action)
Check it
Riding high like the Beeech Dawg do
Just ate some Papa Johns and dropped a runny poo
These girls all beggin’ cause they’re in need
Just wanna smoke a blunk of some funky dirt weed
TAKIN’ THIS BACK TO ‘96
November 7th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
McCreamPuff, do your parents know you’re currently getting creaming by a dude named the Beeeech Dawg on a football blog?
Probably wouldn’t make them very proud of their cream puff, huh
Just sayin’
KEEPIN’ IT MO HIZZLE FRESH
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lil Beeechy Bugger,
With your kind of cream, you better make sure kid is over 18 and his parents don’t find out.
That’s why they call it the brown lil Bugger.
Btw, I have a task for you to complete before you mindlessly melt down kneeling before you master!
November 7th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
It’s ok b1tch enjoy life live them lyrics may be 1 day you r dream will come true but first don’t f8kk up the sandwiches and fries ,pay attention to the task at hand
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Sweet, just wrapped up the dope lyrics to my new reggae jam about keeping the spliff full of dirt weed
It’s like, hey, you’re hooking up with hot mommas who wanna get high, who CARES if the weeds any good?
Just let them hizzies smoke something, then you increase the chances of getting your pole waxed (major BJ action)
Check it
Riding high like the Beeech Dawg do
Just ate some Papa Johns and dropped a runny poo
These girls all beggin’ cause they’re in need
Just wanna smoke a blunk of some funky dirt weed
TAKIN’ THIS BACK TO ‘96
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
No one cares about your weed smoking except underage boys you love to suck. You only like smoking turds anyway
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
B1tch dawg is prolly 16 enjoying life at his first job at Wendy’s writing lyrics on his break time ‘ and thinks life is all good ‘ b1tch has never been exposed to real so he thinks this blog is what’s real , he thinks every one is melting down in here , such a funny little delusional kid, I
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Fumblin’, Stumblin’, Sweatin’ & Droolin’
All leads to a sweet place I call MELTDOWN CITY, USA
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Lets just say I hope not but i see Taiwan coughing it up on his second carry of the game and never seeing another snap on O for the duration…just ain’t sold.
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Sweet, just wrapped up the dope lyrics to my new reggae jam about keeping the spliff full of dirt weed
It’s like, hey, you’re hooking up with hot mommas who wanna get high, who CARES if the weeds any good?
Just let them hizzies smoke something, then you increase the chances of getting your pole waxed (major BJ action)
Check it
Riding high like the Beeech Dawg do
Just ate some Papa Johns and dropped a runny poo
These girls all beggin’ cause they’re in need
Just wanna smoke a blunk of some funky dirt weed
TAKIN’ THIS BACK TO ‘96
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Good job b1tch, make ur momma and dad proud, but you may wanna wait till you get out of Wendy’s before you post here
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
2012 college watch list
1.) tahj boyd 30 td 9 int.
the junior from clemson is having another very good season, i think though he still is a bit too streaky and has the tendency to force the miracle play. he will need to mature in that regard but ha can make every throw and is polished passer. At this stage he is a poor mans jeff garcia only much much more athletic.
2.Ej manual 17 tds 4 ints
the senior signal caller has it all. he stands 6″5 he runs like the wind, he has an nfl ready throwing motion and he is a classic drop back passer when he stands in the pocket. His biggest asset is is toughness, he played the bowl game on a broken leg leading a fourth quarter come back win, and he is insanely athletic. With the right coaching and in a the right system this kid could be a fantastic nfl qb ( I HOPE THE RAIDERS DRAFT HIM). he is a winner a very hard worker and a phenomenal leader. He also plays in a pro style offense at fsu. i personally think he would be perfect in a wco spread hybrid offense like we have seen in a few other nfl cities over the last few seasons. the kid behind him jamioues winston will be fun to watch when ej departs.
3)Logan thomas 19 tds 12 ints
Coming into this season the comparisons between he and cam newton were all over the place, i didnt buy them then i dont buy them now. this converted tight end has lots of work to do with reading defense and decision making. he isnt in cams class as a passer and i dont think he is the same kind of runner. right now i would compare him to tim tebow only tebow seems to be able to ove come mistakes and ugly passing and fnd ways to win, thomas doesnt seem to have that same ability.
4.)geno smith wvu 30 tds 3 int
what can be said about geno that hasnt already been said, remove him from the wvu offense and that team is a bottom feeder. he is accurate extremely smart with the ball and is athletic. i would compare him most to jason campbell, a guy that can extend plays or pick up a 3rd and 7 with his feet, but more often than not scrambles to pass and at times is reluctant to run. he will fit into any offensive scheme and i thin whom ever drafts him will have one of the best in his class along with ej manual.
5.) teddy bridgewater lousiveille 19 tds 4 int
this is one of my absolute favorites he is just a sophomore and he reminds me most of rgIII. In terms of the way he throws the ball he is another example of how the game has changed playing in spread all his life means he is a passer first, and he shows it every Saturday. he will be another that gets to the nfl ready to pass and succeed from the pocket. like rgIII this kid was denied the opportunity to compete at qb by most schools he was recruited by, thank god for charlie strong. now he has a chance to play in january inn a major bowl, something that the cardinal could never experience with out him.
6.) Braxton miller ohio state 29 tds 6 int
this is perhaps the most athletic qb of the bunch, he is clutch tough and is a touchdown machine. braxton will need to improve his passing and be more judicious with the bal. he is a high wire act and if he can become more consistent passer he will be in the hies man conversation in the next two years. micheal vick at virginia tech is the closest comparison to miller
7. brett hundly ucla 27 tds 8ints
this redshirt freshman is just flat out fun to watch. he is a very good passer and can also motor with huge size he is josh freeman only faster on his feet and a better passer as a collegiate.
8. terrance owens toledo 18 tds 5 ints
this kid is probably the least heralded of the group but only because the school is so low profile.
owens has the size and the arm, he comes from a passing attack and would fit well into a tom brady spread or peyton manning type offense where you make line calls and audibles after pre sanp reads. he is fantastically athletic and is a step slower than randall cuningham but still very good.
honorable mention
Johhny manzeil teaxs a&m
another touch down scoring wizard. the kid finds a way to make plays when none are there. I dont think he has the nfl arm or he nfl size and that will hurt him, yet if he keeps making plays for his career like this season it will be hard for the nfll to keep him out
comparison tyrod taylor, troy smith minus the rocket arm
November 7th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Anything but Willie Smith. He’s one of the worst o-lineman I think I have ever seen in a Raider uniform, and we have had a lot of them lately. Its bad enough being a turnstyle… but the holding call may have cost us a win.
We would have been up by 3 or 4 instead of down by three when CP threw the killer interception.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Co-sign that Gdog…
November 7th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
B1tch dawg is prolly 16 enjoying life at his first job at Wendy’s writing lyrics on his break time ‘ and thinks life is all good ‘ b1tch has never been exposed to real so he thinks this blog is what’s real , he thinks every one is melting down in here , such a funny little delusional kid, I
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Fumblin’, Stumblin’, Sweatin’ & Droolin’
All leads to a sweet place I call MELTDOWN CITY, USA
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Hahaha you must keep all ur co-workers entertained with ur gibberish language
November 7th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Ha ha Bros, got a sweet surprise from the boyz in Rasta Ganja!
As a thanks for booking the Mega Yacht show this weekend, they’re taking me out for dinner at Olive Garden
Hellz yeah, you KNOW the Taste of Tuscany is in the HIZZY. Should give me some sweet turd pies
Bringing my iPad so I can keep blogging with all my brahs and minions, keeping you up to date on all things DAWG STYLE
First up is some righteous Chianti, slightly chilled like they do back in Roma
ITALIAN STYLE WIT AN ITALIAN SMILE
November 7th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
4.)geno smith wvu 30 tds 3 int
what can be said about geno that hasnt already been said, remove him from the wvu offense and that team is a bottom feeder. he is accurate extremely smart with the ball and is athletic. i would compare him most to jason campbell, a guy that can extend plays or pick up a 3rd and 7 with his feet, but more often than not scrambles to pass and at times is reluctant to run. he will fit into any offensive scheme and i thin whom ever drafts him will have one of the best in his class along with ej manual.
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So he will go like 5-11 , 6-10 , 4-12 – 3-13 in his career before getting trades to another team for a 5th round pick , then is Holding clip-board after couple of seasons ,nice comparison
November 7th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
The x factor this week will be jones. the best way to attck the ravens will be o run the ball and short dink and dunk passes. the truth is jones ran lots of outside zone i college and is a natural for this scheme supposedly. the question is ball security and durability. also will he try to hit home runs every time like he did on his only carry this year? or can he be patient with the 1 yard and 2 yard gains that we have seen so often this season.
the ravens simply dont play the run like they used to, and it would be good for palmer and the raiders if he can run the ball and keep palmers attempts down around 20-25 for the game. because as we already no palmer gong no huddle and winging it means sure disaster and picks o plenty
November 7th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Anyone know if Reece actually got carries in practice?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
4.)geno smith wvu 30 tds 3 int
what can be said about geno that hasnt already been said, remove him from the wvu offense and that team is a bottom feeder. he is accurate extremely smart with the ball and is athletic. i would compare him most to jason campbell, a guy that can extend plays or pick up a 3rd and 7 with his feet, but more often than not scrambles to pass and at times is reluctant to run. he will fit into any offensive scheme and i thin whom ever drafts him will have one of the best in his class along with ej manual.
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So he will go like 5-11 , 6-10 , 4-12 – 3-13 in his career before getting trades to another team for a 5th round pick , then is Holding clip-board after couple of seasons ,nice comparison
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what a hater
jc 12-7
palmer 7-11
November 7th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
the senior signal caller has it all. he stands 6″5 he runs like the wind, he has an nfl ready throwing motion and he is a classic drop back passer when he stands in the pocket. His biggest asset is is toughness, he played the bowl game on a broken leg leading a fourth quarter come back win, and he is insanely athletic. With the right coaching and in a the right system this kid could be a fantastic nfl qb ( I HOPE THE RAIDERS DRAFT HIM). he is a winner a very hard worker and a phenomenal leader. He also plays in a pro style offense at fsu. i personally think he would be perfect in a wco spread hybrid offense like we have seen in a few other nfl cities over the last few seasons. the kid behind him jamioues winston will be fun to watch when ej departs.
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C Newton and Griffin are doing great in those Wco spread hybrid offenses — leading their respective teams to victories one Sunday at a time
November 7th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
The x factor this week will be jones. the best way to attck the ravens will be o run the ball and short dink and dunk passes. the truth is jones ran lots of outside zone i college and is a natural for this scheme supposedly. the question is ball security and durability. also will he try to hit home runs every time like he did on his only carry this year? or can he be patient with the 1 yard and 2 yard gains that we have seen so often this season.
the ravens simply dont play the run like they used to, and it would be good for palmer and the raiders if he can run the ball and keep palmers attempts down around 20-25 for the game. because as we already no palmer gong no huddle and winging it means sure disaster and picks o plenty
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Two of his picks came between attempts 55-60 cuz his arm was tired (understandably )
What a hater
November 7th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
It IS possible to appreciate what JC brought to the table and also to be supportive of our current QB.
I realize this has been a fun argument over who is better etc. but JC was injured, we brought in Palmer and the rest is history.
I liked JC in he sense he didn’t throw alot of int’s but imo he was a little TOO conservative..not willing to take some needed risk. No risk, no reward.
That being said, JC was a good Raider and he’s been nothing but classy since he left.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
4.)geno smith wvu 30 tds 3 int
what can be said about geno that hasnt already been said, remove him from the wvu offense and that team is a bottom feeder. he is accurate extremely smart with the ball and is athletic. i would compare him most to jason campbell, a guy that can extend plays or pick up a 3rd and 7 with his feet, but more often than not scrambles to pass and at times is reluctant to run. he will fit into any offensive scheme and i thin whom ever drafts him will have one of the best in his class along with ej manual.
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So he will go like 5-11 , 6-10 , 4-12 – 3-13 in his career before getting trades to another team for a 5th round pick , then is Holding clip-board after couple of seasons ,nice comparison
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what a hater
jc 12-7
palmer 7-11
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0 playoff performances
2 playoffs
Sitting on bench
Starting for an nfl team leading comebacks with weak OL and weak Wr’s
November 7th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Totally awesome, the stretch limo just pulled up to the OG and our normal hostess ran out to open our door
High rollin’ and Free Ballin’
She broke a heel on the way out so I patted her on the head and stuck a crisp $1 bill down her brah
She looked at me with a light in her eye and said “Thank you, Beeeech Diggity, for saving my family … I’ll give you a BJ anytime, holla”
We got seated in our usual booth and – hells yeah – the Chianti is mad flowin’
Guess I really am a national treasure after all, guess that’s why they call it the blues
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
It IS possible to appreciate what JC brought to the table and also to be supportive of our current QB.
I realize this has been a fun argument over who is better etc. but JC was injured, we brought in Palmer and the rest is history.
I liked JC in he sense he didn’t throw alot of int’s but imo he was a little TOO conservative..not willing to take some needed risk. No risk, no reward.
That being said, JC was a good Raider and he’s been nothing but classy since he left.
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Yup I loved what JC did by managing games better than previous Qb’s by handing the ball of to the best running game 2 at the time , but I’m glad we have Palmer now , We would have been 0-8 with JC …cuz simple reason ,he wouldn’t have done sh1t with no running back and throwing to these receivers behind this OL
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
“The results of all tests on McFadden were negative.”
I presume the references were to Xrays and MRI. yet I would include the eye test the smell test the litmus test and the reliability test for RBs also as negative on the over-hyped ex-hog. McInjury is the lemon of a sports car that loves the Autobahn but is useless in traffic and spends more time in the shop and costs more for parts than could ever be warranted or termed successful.
Now we get see Taiwan. More of the same I suppose. Electrifying speed with fumble-itis and injured reserve just a flick away.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Kool, appreciate your service to this country! However, you gotta’ put down that bottle of Chlostenburg Schiller, you’re starting to sound a little bit sloshed mate.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
2 years in a row^^^^***
November 7th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
That being said, JC was a good Raider and he’s been nothing but classy since he left.
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Very true..good post.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Paging Dr_Hamster, Paging Dr_Hamster your boy toy Tom Cruise is here to see you…
November 7th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Relax Aig, no matter what happens we still gotta’ get up for work everyday, so that we can afford to support our first true love, “THE OAKLAND RAIDERS BABY!”
November 7th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Now we get see Taiwan. More of the same I suppose. Electrifying speed with fumble-itis and injured reserve just a flick away.
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Very true I think the guy is very fragile….
November 7th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
the senior signal caller has it all. he stands 6″5 he runs like the wind, he has an nfl ready throwing motion and he is a classic drop back passer when he stands in the pocket. His biggest asset is is toughness, he played the bowl game on a broken leg leading a fourth quarter come back win, and he is insanely athletic. With the right coaching and in a the right system this kid could be a fantastic nfl qb ( I HOPE THE RAIDERS DRAFT HIM). he is a winner a very hard worker and a phenomenal leader. He also plays in a pro style offense at fsu. i personally think he would be perfect in a wco spread hybrid offense like we have seen in a few other nfl cities over the last few seasons. the kid behind him jamioues winston will be fun to watch when ej departs.
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C Newton and Griffin are doing great in those Wco spread hybrid offenses — leading their respective teams to victories one Sunday at a time
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watch the games machater
newton does not play in a wco hybrid, he plays in a vertical offense.
rgIII and wilson play in a spread wco hybrid, so does sam bradford. wilson is 5-4, and rgIII and that offense is one of the best in football
what is this clown talking about?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Kool, appreciate your service to this country! However, you gotta’ put down that bottle of Chlostenburg Schiller, you’re starting to sound a little bit sloshed mate.
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He wasn’t serving his country. He went to college before joining the Navy because he wanted to avoid the Vietnam draft. He only went to the Nave after school because he couldn’t find a job.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
The x factor this week will be jones. the best way to attck the ravens will be o run the ball and short dink and dunk passes. the truth is jones ran lots of outside zone i college and is a natural for this scheme supposedly. the question is ball security and durability. also will he try to hit home runs every time like he did on his only carry this year? or can he be patient with the 1 yard and 2 yard gains that we have seen so often this season.
the ravens simply dont play the run like they used to, and it would be good for palmer and the raiders if he can run the ball and keep palmers attempts down around 20-25 for the game. because as we already no palmer gong no huddle and winging it means sure disaster and picks o plenty
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Two of his picks came between attempts 55-60 cuz his arm was tired (understandably )
What a hater
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those are only 2 ofe the outrageous 28 turnovers he as logged in the 18 games he has played. no other picks came between 55-60.
but again the point was keeping his attempts down
November 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
So he will go like 5-11 , 6-10 , 4-12 – 3-13 in his career before getting trades to another team for a 5th round pick , then is Holding clip-board after couple of seasons ,nice comparison
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what a hater
jc 12-7
palmer 7-11
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rgIII and wilson play in a spread wco hybrid, so does sam bradford. wilson is 5-4, and rgIII and that offense is one of the best in football
what is this clown talking about?
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Twisting and turning again Mistic.
RGIII has the same record as CP, yet he leads one of the best offenses in football? Oh wait, TD to TO ratio is different so that changes it all right?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Mistic, I also actually liked JC as a RAIDER QB, but the question is, do you honestly think we could have won a Super Bowl with him at the helm?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
It IS possible to appreciate what JC brought to the table and also to be supportive of our current QB.
I realize this has been a fun argument over who is better etc. but JC was injured, we brought in Palmer and the rest is history.
I liked JC in he sense he didn’t throw alot of int’s but imo he was a little TOO conservative..not willing to take some needed risk. No risk, no reward.
That being said, JC was a good Raider and he’s been nothing but classy since he left.
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Yup I loved what JC did by managing games better than previous Qb’s by handing the ball of to the best running game 2 at the time , but I’m glad we have Palmer now , We would have been 0-8 with JC …cuz simple reason ,he wouldn’t have done sh1t with no running back and throwing to these receivers behind this OL
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this theory has been debunked time and time again, jc won games WITHOUT DMAC IN THE LINE UP
November 7th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Easy Boss, this is Kool Kell you’re putting down.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Kool, appreciate your service to this country! However, you gotta’ put down that bottle of Chlostenburg Schiller, you’re starting to sound a little bit sloshed mate.
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He wasn’t serving his country. He went to college before joining the Navy because he wanted to avoid the Vietnam draft. He only went to the Nave after school because he couldn’t find a job.
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Wow Brien, you make a lot of assumptions, about things you know nothing about to justify your narrative of my life. smh
Get a life Brien.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Easy Boss, this is Kool Kell you’re putting down.
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Kell was 27 or 28 years old when he joined the Navy in 1977. He really wanted to serve his country he would have enlisted when the war was still going on.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Mistic, I also actually liked JC as a RAIDER QB, but the question is, do you honestly think we could have won a Super Bowl with him at the helm?
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The question isn’t whether we like him….we all liked him when we won games. The question is whether Palmer is better at QB for us than JC was. The numbers may point to No, but the long term consensus is YES. But opinion doesn’t matter, only recorded stats do I guess. I don’t think JC would’ve taken us there after DMAC went down and our D collapsed. I think most of us agree.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
My bad. Kell was 24 or 25 when he joined the Navy.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
So he will go like 5-11 , 6-10 , 4-12 – 3-13 in his career before getting trades to another team for a 5th round pick , then is Holding clip-board after couple of seasons ,nice comparison
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what a hater
jc 12-7
palmer 7-11
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rgIII and wilson play in a spread wco hybrid, so does sam bradford. wilson is 5-4, and rgIII and that offense is one of the best in football
what is this clown talking about?
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Twisting and turning again Mistic.
RGIII has the same record as CP, yet he leads one of the best offenses in football? Oh wait, TD to TO ratio is different so that changes it all right?
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i dont know why you have aproblem with rgIII, he is playing way better than palmer and his offense makes palmer and the raiders a joke by comparison
raider are # 20 in scoring offense
the redskins are # 7 in scoring at
im no math guru mr wizard but number 7 is top ten in the nfl number 20 is just outside of the bottom 3rd of the leauge
rgIII is head and shoulder better than palmer
November 7th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Boss Sauce
Where was your fatt azzed greasy Daddy during the Vietnam Nam War?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
51. Good point. I also agree that Palmer is a better fit for us at QB, in that he is able to carry the “TEAM” better than what JC would’ve been able to.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Mistic, I also actually liked JC as a RAIDER QB, but the question is, do you honestly think we could have won a Super Bowl with him at the helm?
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The question isn’t whether we like him….we all liked him when we won games. The question is whether Palmer is better at QB for us than JC was. The numbers may point to No, but the long term consensus is YES. But opinion doesn’t matter, only recorded stats do I guess. I don’t think JC would’ve taken us there after DMAC went down and our D collapsed. I think most of us agree.
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lol
you freely admit that the hard evidence supports my claim, and your and “most of us” as you put it are basing your take on gut feelings hunches or hero worship and hate
jc won games with out dmac and with the same porous defense with the same over paid cast of characters at its core
the difference is that i cna acknowledge when palmer plays well even though it is a rare occurrence, but you haters will never give jc credit
thats ok though the records and numbers say everything
12-7 vs 7-11
November 7th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Boss Sauce
Where was your fatt azzed greasy Daddy during the Vietnam Nam War?
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I don’t have a dad btch.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
“Your mama, your daddy, your greasy granny got holes in her panties, got a big behind like frank-en-stein, she goes toot toot toot like prosti-tute, and teet teet teet like sesame street”.
An old rhyme from elementary school.
Thanks for reminding of that one Kell.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Kell, put that bottle down you’re starting to sound very angry, when this should be a day of celebration!
November 7th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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i dont know why you have aproblem with rgIII, he is playing way better than palmer and his offense makes palmer and the raiders a joke by comparison
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I have no problem with RGIII at all. I think he’s a phenom at QB that won’t fizzle out any time soon. He’s the real deal. But with JC and CP you’re basing there competence only by Wins and Losses and perhaps TD’s and TO’s, but with RGIII he’s got a one of the best offenses in football and yet sits and 3-5 I believe. If we we’re ranked high offensively, would you still think CP is a letdown?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Kell don’t say you were serving your country when you could fought in Vietnam but opted out. I know how old you are.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
No disrespect to JC, but he couldn’t throw the deep ball accurately, and he played scared. Too conservative, and generally slow-witted.
Nice guy though.
However, a good QB doesn’t see both of his kicking specialists go to the Pro Bowl.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Mistic, I also actually liked JC as a RAIDER QB, but the question is, do you honestly think we could have won a Super Bowl with him at the helm?
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i firmly believe that had hu jack not made trade shot off his mouth so much we would have had a chance to return the team from the start of last year and build on what jc started.
The team was clealry trending upward and was being recognized nationally for doing so. our offense was good enough to hang with any team in football and jc was the straw that stirred the drink.
yes in another year or two continuing to build the team and improve the defense we could have gone all the way, the offense was that good.
we havnt come any where near that since his departure
November 7th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Kell, put that bottle down you’re starting to sound very angry, when this should be a day of celebration!
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Stfu, dumbass.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
the senior signal caller has it all. he stands 6″5 he runs like the wind, he has an nfl ready throwing motion and he is a classic drop back passer when he stands in the pocket. His biggest asset is is toughness, he played the bowl game on a broken leg leading a fourth quarter come back win, and he is insanely athletic. With the right coaching and in a the right system this kid could be a fantastic nfl qb ( I HOPE THE RAIDERS DRAFT HIM). he is a winner a very hard worker and a phenomenal leader. He also plays in a pro style offense at fsu. i personally think he would be perfect in a wco spread hybrid offense like we have seen in a few other nfl cities over the last few seasons. the kid behind him jamioues winston will be fun to watch when ej departs.
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C Newton and Griffin are doing great in those Wco spread hybrid offenses — leading their respective teams to victories one Sunday at a time
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watch the games machater
newton does not play in a wco hybrid, he plays in a vertical offense.
rgIII and wilson play in a spread wco hybrid, so does sam bradford. wilson is 5-4, and rgIII and that offense is one of the best in football
what is this clown talking about?
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They s*ck record wise, Wilson is 4-5 take his gift win away given by replacement refa
November 7th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Kell I don’t care if you didn’t want to fight in the war. It was a sht war. But don’t go bragging about serving your country when you chose not to fight in the war.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
tonedeezy Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
No disrespect to JC, but he couldn’t throw the deep ball accurately, and he played scared. Too conservative, and generally slow-witted.
Nice guy though.
However, a good QB doesn’t see both of his kicking specialists go to the Pro Bowl.
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yawn he was abtter deep passer last year than palmer has been her are the numbers…..again
palmer passes 20-30 yards 21%
30-40 yards 11%
jc passess 20-30 yards 28%
30-40 yards 16%
40 yards plus 25%
your claims are not backed up by the actual stats
November 7th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
56,
Mistic, there’s nothing we can do about it now. JC is gone and he isn’t coming back.
I liked him. You make a good point about his record but it’s a moot point given he’s with Chicago now.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
I’m going to pull out all the stats of JCs an numbers when our running game didn’t help him out and compare it to his stats to Palmers stats with out no running game … We will really find out where we would have been this year with JC and no running game
November 7th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Calm down Mistic, I really don’t care who a person is, but when they wear the Silver and Black I will wholeheartedly support them, as I ALWAYS HAVE!
November 7th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Kell I don’t care if you didn’t want to fight in the war. It was a sht war. But don’t go bragging about serving your country when you chose not to fight in the war.
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I spent 5 yrs in the Navy dumbass. No, it wasn’t the years you picked. So what.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
KrappyRat hopefully isn’t too plowed on Malibu to perform his chauffeur duties
Remember Blog Nerds, in order for the Old Troll to get his fingers on that allowance check, he’s gotta pick KrappyWife & Her Bowl Cut up from work ON TIME
Or she deducts a nickle for every minute he’s late
November 7th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
64. Still the same ole angry Kool Kell even when somebody appreciates his service to this great country!
November 7th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
C Newton and Griffin are doing great in those Wco spread hybrid offenses — leading their respective teams to victories one Sunday at a time
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watch the games machater
newton does not play in a wco hybrid, he plays in a vertical offense.
rgIII and wilson play in a spread wco hybrid, so does sam bradford. wilson is 5-4, and rgIII and that offense is one of the best in football
what is this clown talking about?
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They s*ck record wise, Wilson is 4-5 take his gift win away given by replacement refa
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mac crackhead20,
wilson is 5-4 dont like it write your congressman it in the record books as a win, and it actually counts.
just as you cant take awy the superbowl win for the tuck rule patriots, or the imacualt reception steelers
besides my point was about WCO SPREAD HYBRID AND HOW EJ MANUAL WOULD FIT INTO ONE.
You said newton played in one and he doesnt
shut the fugg up, put down your spank mag and watch the games
or just look stupid when you are exposed
November 7th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
64. Still the same ole angry Kool Kell even when somebody appreciates his service to this great country!
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Shut up dummy, you’re not as smart as you think you are, ok?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Kell I don’t care if you didn’t want to fight in the war. It was a sht war. But don’t go bragging about serving your country when you chose not to fight in the war.
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I spent 5 yrs in the Navy dumbass. No, it wasn’t the years you picked. So what.
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You were in the Navy 1977-182. Before that you went to the University of Washington. You were born in 1952. You could have signed up and did your duty in Vietnam.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
At the time Hue traded for Palmer we were pursuing a playoff spot. Hue thought Palmer could get us to the playoffs and I maintain that even Peyton Manning wasn’t getting us there with a historically bad defense.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
56,
Mistic, there’s nothing we can do about it now. JC is gone and he isn’t coming back.
I liked him. You make a good point about his record but it’s a moot point given he’s with Chicago now.
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your boy madickhead 20 brought up jc after i compared a college qb to him
therefore i felt compelled to set the record straight
November 7th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
At the time Hue traded for Palmer we were pursuing a playoff spot. Hue thought Palmer could get us to the playoffs
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untrue hue said supebowl not play offs
November 7th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
lol
you freely admit that the hard evidence supports my claim, and your and “most of us” as you put it are basing your take on gut feelings hunches or hero worship and hate
jc won games with out dmac and with the same porous defense with the same over paid cast of characters at its core
the difference is that i cna acknowledge when palmer plays well even though it is a rare occurrence, but you haters will never give jc credit
thats ok though the records and numbers say everything
12-7 vs 7-11
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Hate? Worship? You got me all wrong Mistic. What I see in your argument is this: CP is not playing up to par in your opinion. We think he’s doin good givin’ the circumstances. But you won’t credit the circumstances. You take them as excuses for one reason only… If you were to acknowledge that CP struggles not only because of some poor decisions (that JC has undoubtedly made from time to time), but also because of a struggling O-line, lack of consistent run game if any, poorly performing receivers, and a vanilla play caller, then you would in turn be admitting that JC’s stint her was ‘Better’ and more productive in the W-L column then CP’s because all those pieces were working better together at the time. The RUN game was on fire, the O-line was improved, and HUE brought plays that suited our players. The one-man highlight known as FORD made that KC overtime win possible with A return for TD, adjusting to underthrown pass here and there, and taking back in INT for Flowers. He made the most of JC’s plays that game. Right now, CP is making the most of his players and call. You simply can’t reasonably compare because the situation was terribly different. You won’t admit that, and we won’t deny it. That’s just the way its gonna be.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
You were in the Navy 1977-182. Before that you went to the University of Washington. You were born in 1952. You could have signed up and did your duty in Vietnam.
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You could choose to get a life, instead of obsessing over mine, under different names for the last, 5years?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
I’m going to pull out all the stats of JCs an numbers when our running game didn’t help him out and compare it to his stats to Palmers stats with out no running game … We will really find out where we would have been this year with JC and no running game
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it would be noting more than blind speculation and conjecture.
you always want to indulge in fantasy make believe scenario as opposed to real life and actual facts
are you a furry too
November 7th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
You’re right McFadden20…iPhones suck lol
November 7th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Kell, why didn’t you fight in Vietnam if you are so proud of serving your country?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
lol
you freely admit that the hard evidence supports my claim, and your and “most of us” as you put it are basing your take on gut feelings hunches or hero worship and hate
jc won games with out dmac and with the same porous defense with the same over paid cast of characters at its core
the difference is that i cna acknowledge when palmer plays well even though it is a rare occurrence, but you haters will never give jc credit
thats ok though the records and numbers say everything
12-7 vs 7-11
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Hate? Worship? You got me all wrong Mistic. What I see in your argument is this: CP is not playing up to par in your opinion. We think he’s doin good givin’ the circumstances. But you won’t credit the circumstances. You take them as excuses for one reason only… If you were to acknowledge that CP struggles not only because of some poor decisions (that JC has undoubtedly made from time to time), but also because of a struggling O-line, lack of consistent run game if any, poorly performing receivers, and a vanilla play caller, then you would in turn be admitting that JC’s stint her was ‘Better’ and more productive in the W-L column then CP’s because all those pieces were working better together at the time. The RUN game was on fire, the O-line was improved, and HUE brought plays that suited our players. The one-man highlight known as FORD made that KC overtime win possible with A return for TD, adjusting to underthrown pass here and there, and taking back in INT for Flowers. He made the most of JC’s plays that game. Right now, CP is making the most of his players and call. You simply can’t reasonably compare because the situation was terribly different. You won’t admit that, and we won’t deny it. That’s just the way its gonna be.
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ummm palmer took over the team when jc went down and we flopped as palmer tossed an ungodly 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?!
so apples to apples jc was better in the same system and with the same team both in terms of production and the ultimate stat wins and losses
November 7th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Kell, why didn’t you fight in Vietnam if you are so proud of serving your country?
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None of your business. Can we see your military records?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Lmao @ Mistic comparing geno smith to JC and saying that team will get a franchise QB ,
JC never finished Better than 8-8 an never made the playoffs . franchise QB??? I don’t think so
November 7th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
lol you ask me a direct question and when i answer you say calm down? im not excited
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
75. Relax Kell, I think you need another vaccation back in Ole’ Swisserland, you’re starting to sound rather frassled and you’ve only been back here less than a month. I don’t think at this rate you’re going to see out the rest of the season. So deep breathe, my fellow Raider fan? and please relax!
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Kell, why didn’t you fight in Vietnam if you are so proud of serving your country?
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None of your business. Can we see your military records?
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I never claimed to serve my country like you did.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ummm palmer took over the team when jc went down and we flopped as palmer tossed an ungodly 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?!
so apples to apples jc was better in the same system and with the same team both in terms of production and the ultimate stat wins and losses
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Same system, same players? DMAC went down too. Again, no credit to circumstance, especially given that HUE brought CP off the couch. I know, I know, excuses. It is was it is, and JC, HUE, and our O-line is simply is not here anymore. So what now?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Kell, what’s up with the 13 year gap in your employment record?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Lmao @ Mistic comparing geno smith to JC and saying that team will get a franchise QB ,
JC never finished Better than 8-8 an never made the playoffs . franchise QB??? I don’t think so
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You dont think geno is? palmer has proven he isnt.
Jc will never know because his best shot davis’s raiders are no more. however after 19 games at 12-7 and an undefeated division record and helping set raider single game scoring records the evidence suggest he was well on his way to being just that and leading this team to the promise land.
the football we saw last year at 4-2 was the best raider footbal we have seen since 2002 bar none
jc the best since gannon retired and it s not close
November 7th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
In the spirit of political discussion….
An oldie but goody….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI
You’ll have to copy and paste in a new window of your browser.
Love this Guy.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Raiderjambo or whoever. When People crack at me, I crack back. Say, I’m melting down if that makes you feel superior. So what. Smh.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Kell, why didn’t you fight in Vietnam if you are so proud of serving your country?
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None of your business. Can we see your military records?
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I never claimed to serve my country like you did.
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Not surprised a Rat like Krappy would hide from Vietnam. Still, it’s pretty funny
November 7th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ummm palmer took over the team when jc went down and we flopped as palmer tossed an ungodly 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?!
so apples to apples jc was better in the same system and with the same team both in terms of production and the ultimate stat wins and losses
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Same system, same players? DMAC went down too. Again, no credit to circumstance, especially given that HUE brought CP off the couch. I know, I know, excuses. It is was it is, and JC, HUE, and our O-line is simply is not here anymore. So what now?
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what now is an entirley different discussion tha the one you jumped in on but i will but i can answer.
what now? WE SUCK THATS WHAT NOW.
qb stinks team stinks coach stinks (so far)
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Mistic the supertroll is the only Raider fan in existence that gets pissed when CP throws a TD, and high fives everyone when he throws an interception.
He will deny it.. but we all know its true.
He’s got WAAAAY too much skin in this game for it to be any different.
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Kell, what’s up with the 13 year gap in your employment record?
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I didn’t want to include my shoe shining career on my employment record, Brien. Ok?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
So how much 4 LB sets are we going to see?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
All this crap about thanking people for serving the war industry makes me sick.
There was a time when a mundane had only three choices: claim to be a conscientious objector on religious grounds, leave the country, or do what your rulers demanded.
Today, if a person survives the egregious error of volunteering, they are likely to commit suicide.
Is there anything that spells out the decline and fall of western civilization more than this?
November 7th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Taiwan Jones projected stats for Sundays game:
15 runs
22 yards
10 fumbles
oooooooo yeah!
November 7th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Gdog Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Mistic the supertroll is the only Raider fan in existence that gets pissed when CP throws a TD, and high fives everyone when he throws an interception.
He will deny it.. but we all know its true.
He’s got WAAAAY too much skin in this game for it to be any different.
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if that makes you feel better because i told you and everybody like you that palmer would suck and the team would lose with him have at it.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Taiwan Jones projected stats for Sundays game:
15 runs
22 yards
10 fumbles
oooooooo yeah!
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OOOOOOOOO nooooo! lol
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Kell, what’s up with the 13 year gap in your employment record?
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I didn’t want to include my shoe shining career on my employment record, Brien. Ok?
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Were you in jail? Is that how you met your wife. She was a social worker who rehabilitated you.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Taiwan Jones on twitter
“Really excited, had a great practice, only fumbled 17 times”
nice!! woooo hooooo!
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ummm palmer took over the team when jc went down and we flopped as palmer tossed an ungodly 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?!
so apples to apples jc was better in the same system and with the same team both in terms of production and the ultimate stat wins and losses
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Same system, same players? DMAC went down too. Again, no credit to circumstance, especially given that HUE brought CP off the couch. I know, I know, excuses. It is was it is, and JC, HUE, and our O-line is simply is not here anymore. So what now?
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what now is an entirley different discussion tha the one you jumped in on but i will but i can answer.
what now? WE SUCK THATS WHAT NOW.
qb stinks team stinks coach stinks (so far)
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So you honestly think that all the support JC got team-wise didn’t factor into his W-L’s? Nhamdi gone, Ford hurting, DMAC out for the season, Moore hurting, D collapsing, and CP supposed to produce the same? I just don’t see it. Not to mention terms of production…I don’t remember JC throwing for 300 or 400 yrds very often at all. But hey, to each his own right?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
J Hill Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
So how much 4 LB sets are we going to see?
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Wassup J Hill
I say zero.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Curry said his knees got so bad that he had difficulty even walking up and down stairs.
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Awesome!!!
Sounds like a long-term solution to our rushing defense.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ummm palmer took over the team when jc went down and we flopped as palmer tossed an ungodly 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?!
so apples to apples jc was better in the same system and with the same team both in terms of production and the ultimate stat wins and losses
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Same system, same players? DMAC went down too. Again, no credit to circumstance, especially given that HUE brought CP off the couch. I know, I know, excuses. It is was it is, and JC, HUE, and our O-line is simply is not here anymore. So what now?
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what now is an entirley different discussion tha the one you jumped in on but i will but i can answer.
what now? WE SUCK THATS WHAT NOW.
qb stinks team stinks coach stinks (so far)
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So you honestly think that all the support JC got team-wise didn’t factor into his W-L’s? Nhamdi gone, Ford hurting, DMAC out for the season, Moore hurting, D collapsing, and CP supposed to produce the same? I just don’t see it. Not to mention terms of production…I don’t remember JC throwing for 300 or 400 yrds very often at all. But hey, to each his own right?
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WIthout the benefit of training camp , pre season games, etc etc
November 7th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Kell, what’s up with the 13 year gap in your employment record?
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I didn’t want to include my shoe shining career on my employment record, Brien. Ok?
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Were you in jail? Is that how you met your wife. She was a social worker who rehabilitated you.
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I’m sure you’ll figure it out, one day. Lol.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Curry said his knees got so bad that he had difficulty even walking up and down stairs.
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Awesome!!!
Sounds like a long-term solution to our rushing defense.
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Sounds like an improvement over McClain…
November 7th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Wait a minute , how exactly did JC get 12 wins and only 7 losses?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
JFB, it was a landslide.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
face it guys sometime the popular opinion doesnt match reality or the facts.
Just as europeans thought the world was flat, or thought that if yo sneezed it meant you were possed by the devil. We know that these ideas have proven false by examining scientific fact.
the overwhelming popular opinion was that palmer would be an “instant upgrade’ and the team ‘would be better’ and we would go to the “playoffs’.
The fats are that we are scoring less, wining less and palmer hasnt produced like his predecessor.
i know this chaps people but it is documented
November 7th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
A landslide for the status quo, let us rejoice.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
How did JC get 12 wins Mistic?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
face it guys sometime the popular opinion doesnt match reality or the facts.
Just as europeans thought the world was flat, or thought that if yo sneezed it meant you were possed by the devil. We know that these ideas have proven false by examining scientific fact.
the overwhelming popular opinion was that palmer would be an “instant upgrade’ and the team ‘would be better’ and we would go to the “playoffs’.
The facts are that we are scoring less, winning less and palmer hasnt produced like his predecessor.
i know this chaps people but it is documented
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You’re still not answering my question.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Only 11 wins 1 was a come back by Bruce Gradkowski
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
JFB, it was a landslide.
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The stock market today?
Yes it was, not good
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Alright Kell. We’ll just all assume you were either in jail or homeless between 1991 and 2004.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Only 11 wins 1 was a come back by Bruce Gradkowski
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Whom they were benching JC for might I add. Hmmmm….
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Twocents Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
A landslide for the status quo, let us rejoice.
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For the majority of people of this country.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Alright Kell. We’ll just all assume you were either in jail or homeless between 1991 and 2004.
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Man, I like the shoe shine story, it has a Bojangles ring to it… damn I like that song.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The facts are that we are scoring less, winning less and palmer hasnt produced like his predecessor.
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Thankfully he hasn’t been a sissy who missed half his games in 2 years with us as well.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Alright Kell. We’ll just all assume you were either in jail or homeless between 1991 and 2004.
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Make your day, little man.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Majority rules. A recipe for totalitarianism.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ummm palmer took over the team when jc went down and we flopped as palmer tossed an ungodly 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?!
so apples to apples jc was better in the same system and with the same team both in terms of production and the ultimate stat wins and losses
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Same system, same players? DMAC went down too. Again, no credit to circumstance, especially given that HUE brought CP off the couch. I know, I know, excuses. It is was it is, and JC, HUE, and our O-line is simply is not here anymore. So what now?
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what now is an entirley different discussion tha the one you jumped in on but i will but i can answer.
what now? WE SUCK THATS WHAT NOW.
qb stinks team stinks coach stinks (so far)
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So you honestly think that all the support JC got team-wise didn’t factor into his W-L’s? Nhamdi gone, Ford hurting, DMAC out for the season, Moore hurting, D collapsing, and CP supposed to produce the same? I just don’t see it. Not to mention terms of production…I don’t remember JC throwing for 300 or 400 yrds very often at all. But hey, to each his own right?
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WIthout the benefit of training camp , pre season games, etc etc
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there was a lockout last year remember, and again palmer and jc played under the same conditions last year.
you cant accept it but you dont have to its in the rcord books
by the way production meant tds to turn overs and wins and losses
dont you guys get tired of bringing this up day after day? the results wont change
November 7th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Reagan won in a landslide. That’s the last I can recall.
The Current Pres by 3% of the popular vote.
The electoral college and the people have spoken.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The facts are that we are scoring less, winning less and palmer hasnt produced like his predecessor.
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Thankfully he hasn’t been a sissy who missed half his games in 2 years with us as well.
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having him in the games hasnt helped us win 7-11 jfb
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Only 11 wins 1 was a come back by Bruce Gradkowski
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Whom they were benching JC for might I add. Hmmmm….
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lol gradkowksi left the ram game TRAILING jc entered off the bench and brought us back in one of his classic 4th quarter victories hitting ford with the deep pass along the way.
this was the end of the gradkowski era
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Mistic1, you gotta take these stats to Reggie Mac and the rest of the GMs in the league, JC would be starting for New England by now! LOL
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Campbell won the opportunity by his quality-enough play in 2010 to earn the starting job in 2011 without any doubt and take us to the playoffs.
He failed, quite miserably.
He will never be given that much lee-way by another organization.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Boss Sauce is bouncing. Got some bzzies waiting for me.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Twocents Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Majority rules. A recipe for totalitarianism.
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You Throw around words and don’t even know what they mean. Sheesh.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
actually 10 wins, JC didn’t finish the cleveland game either
November 7th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Mistic1, you gotta take these stats to Reggie Mac and the rest of the GMs in the league, JC would be starting for New England by now! LOL
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that has little to do with what he actually accomplished while he was here which is the basis of the discussion.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
lol gradkowksi left the ram game TRAILING
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??????
What game are you thinking of?
Rams game was week 2, 2010. Soup benched at halftime after his last pass of the half was a horrendous wobbler that was picked off and took points off the board.
Bruce led us on a 2nd half comeback for the win.
JC entered the Chargers game a month later, up 12-0.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
by the way production meant tds to turn overs and wins and losses….
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As defined by Mistic. You set your own parameters that way you’re never wrong. Good stuff.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Boss Sauce Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Boss Sauce is bouncing. Got some bzzies waiting for me.
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Yeah, that’s what all the Trolls say. It’s still LAME
November 7th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Mistic1, you gotta take these stats to Reggie Mac and the rest of the GMs in the league, JC would be starting for New England by now! LOL
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that has little to do with what he actually accomplished while he was here which is the basis of the discussion.
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I dont know what the basis of the discussion are, cause I wasnt there when the basis were agreed upon, but I like your case my man!
November 7th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
by the way production meant tds to turn overs and wins and losses….
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So Alex Smith is one of the best QB’s in the NFL then?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Mistic1, you gotta take these stats to Reggie Mac and the rest of the GMs in the league, JC would be starting for New England by now! LOL
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that has little to do with what he actually accomplished while he was here which is the basis of the discussion.
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Wait a sec, I thought the stats had everything to do with what he accomplished while he was here?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
132.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Only 11 wins 1 was a come back by Bruce Gradkowski
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Whom they were benching JC for might I add. Hmmmm….
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lol gradkowksi left the ram game TRAILING jc entered off the bench and brought us back in one of his classic 4th quarter victories hitting ford with the deep pass along the way.
this was the end of the gradkowski era
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That was the Charger game, not the Rams game.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009190rai.htm
November 7th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Unalienable rights, what are they? Can they be taken away by a majority vote?
In the USA they certainly can, just ask any progressive.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
95. Kool, at no time have I ever insinuated being superior, so just RELAX, “WE”RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER”.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Mistic:
JC came off the bench trailing and brought us back in one of his classic 4th quarter victories ?
You guys might want to stop drinking whatever your drinking , cuz this is going to not end up good if you have drink in your mouth and reading this at the same time
CLassic JC come back game stats
8-15 87 yards 53% completion percentage , long of 27 0 td 1 int 42.9 rating
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Campbell won the opportunity by his quality-enough play in 2010 to earn the starting job in 2011 without any doubt and take us to the playoffs.
He failed, quite miserably.
He will never be given that much lee-way by another organization.
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losing your job to injury does not equal failure, neither does taking a losing team and leaving it i first place in the division. neither does sweeping the division opponents, or establishing a wining record.
Davis was proud of him and i am too.
very pleased with what he treated us REAL fans to, the last sterling example of winning raider football
November 7th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Mistic:
JC came off the bench trailing and brought us back in one of his classic 4th quarter victories ?
You guys might want to stop drinking whatever your drinking , cuz this is going to not end up good if you have drink in your mouth and reading this at the same time
CLassic JC come back game stats
8-15 87 yards 53% completion percentage , long of 27 0 td 1 int 42.9 rating
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you left off the most important stat W
November 7th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
lol gradkowksi left the ram game TRAILING
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??????
What game are you thinking of?
Rams game was week 2, 2010. Soup benched at halftime after his last pass of the half was a horrendous wobbler that was picked off and took points off the board.
Bruce led us on a 2nd half comeback for the win.
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Confirmed. I was there as the crowd chanted BRUUUUCE.
Vehldeer was alternating with Henderson at LT as Ol Mario was being shown the door.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Twocents try visiting another country, for once. Then maybe, you might know it all.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Mistic:
JC came off the bench trailing and brought us back in one of his classic 4th quarter victories ?
You guys might want to stop drinking whatever your drinking , cuz this is going to not end up good if you have drink in your mouth and reading this at the same time
CLassic JC come back game stats
8-15 87 yards 53% completion percentage , long of 27 0 td 1 int 42.9 rating
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thanks dutch, he it seems like so long ago when he was leading those come back wins i get a bit foggy off the top of my head
November 7th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
That was the Charger game, not the Rams game.
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I noticed Jacoby Ford didn’t have a catch that game, better yet a “deep pass in the 4th quarter”.
LOL……Mistic, huffing paint and posting is not a good idea.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Campbell won the opportunity by his quality-enough play in 2010 to earn the starting job in 2011 without any doubt and take us to the playoffs.
He failed, quite miserably.
He will never be given that much lee-way by another organization.
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losing your job to injury does not equal failure, neither does taking a losing team and leaving it i first place in the division. neither does sweeping the division opponents, or establishing a wining record.
Davis was proud of him and i am too.
very pleased with what he treated us REAL fans to, the last sterling example of winning raider football
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And the only way we would’ve found out how good he really was is if he’d been around after DMAC and several other key players got hurt and his play when the Defense collapsed week after week. At least we can both agree that we will never know that truth.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
lol gradkowksi left the ram game TRAILING
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??????
What game are you thinking of?
Rams game was week 2, 2010. Soup benched at halftime after his last pass of the half was a horrendous wobbler that was picked off and took points off the board.
Bruce led us on a 2nd half comeback for the win.
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Confirmed. I was there as the crowd chanted BRUUUUCE.
Vehldeer was alternating with Henderson at LT as Ol Mario was being shown the door.
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it was the charger game not the rams
November 7th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Mistic:
JC came off the bench trailing and brought us back in one of his classic 4th quarter victories ?
You guys might want to stop drinking whatever your drinking , cuz this is going to not end up good if you have drink in your mouth and reading this at the same time
CLassic JC come back game stats
8-15 87 yards 53% completion percentage , long of 27 0 td 1 int 42.9 rating
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you left off the most important stat W
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And that was the game he got benched in the 1st half in favor of Bruce ….
Who went 11 for 21 for 162 yards 1 TD and 1 INt
November 7th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Campbell won the opportunity by his quality-enough play in 2010 to earn the starting job in 2011 without any doubt and take us to the playoffs.
He failed, quite miserably.
He will never be given that much lee-way by another organization.
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losing your job to injury does not equal failure, neither does taking a losing team and leaving it i first place in the division. neither does sweeping the division opponents, or establishing a wining record.
Davis was proud of him and i am too.
very pleased with what he treated us REAL fans to, the last sterling example of winning raider football
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And the only way we would’ve found out how good he really was is if he’d been around after DMAC and several other key players got hurt and his play when the Defense collapsed week after week. At least we can both agree that we will never know that truth.
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why are you guys so obssesed with taking credit away from jc? HE WON FOR US.
he did play without dmac and he won, he did play with that terrible defense and still won
November 7th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Jason Campbell is probably the most talked about bench warming quarter back on the internet courtesy of this blog. I liked Campbell when he was here, he was just what we needed at that time. It was refreshing watching a QB with the ability to actually hit receivers on Target.
Bu the more he played, the more his limitations revealed themselves. He was capt. Checkdown. He was scared to take chances. I also remember that heart less slide he did in the Tennessee game were he slid short of the first because he was scared to get hit. Jason Campbell can QB a team like the Whiners. They have a solid defense and solid run game that he would be able to hide behind. He is not a QB who can shoulder a franchise.
Now Carson that’s a different story. I’m not saying he is elite but he is the right QB for this team at this present moment and at least for the next 2 seasons. He has his flaws but he is playing good football considering his oline is garbage, our running game is garbage, our defense has moments were they play like garbage, our special teams aside from Jano is garbage. And despite all this, he doesn’t complain, he continues to give this team an opportunity to win.
For the next couple of seasons he will be the raiders QB, like it or not. This team has to much holes to fill and QB is at the bottom of that list. Mistic, I would love to have an Rg3 type QB, who wouldn’t. But bringing in Pryor or drafting a QB next year with the idea of having him start, would be disasterous with the players we have now on this roster. This team has other needs that will be address within the next 2 offseasons and QB will not be one of them. So rest assured that Cp3 will our man till further notice.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
See the AGenda from Mistic ?, he even added the game Bruce won it for us on Campbells w stat sheet , He will add Palmer’s first game with us into L SHeet after going into half time substituting for Boller down 28-0
November 7th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
lol guys if i dont have every detail correct it doesnt matter
jc has nearly double the wins as palmer after almost the exact amount of games
you hate this but it stands regardless
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
it was the charger game not the rams
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Entered the game UP 12-0, Jacoby had zero catches.
You fkn make shat up on here all the time, for whatever reason, like your talking to a bunch of people who don’t watch the games or have an internet connection.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Mistic no body can take you serious , you got big Agenda when it comes Palmer
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
What other country might you suggest? I live in the most corrupt country in the world. I would like a place that has sound currency, peace and prosperity.
Oh, and tons of liberty.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
da trinity Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Jason Campbell is probably the most talked about bench warming quarter back on the internet courtesy of this blog. I liked Campbell when he was here, he was just what we needed at that time. It was refreshing watching a QB with the ability to actually hit receivers on Target.
Bu the more he played, the more his limitations revealed themselves. He was capt. Checkdown. He was scared to take chances. I also remember that heart less slide he did in the Tennessee game were he slid short of the first because he was scared to get hit. Jason Campbell can QB a team like the Whiners. They have a solid defense and solid run game that he would be able to hide behind. He is not a QB who can shoulder a franchise.
Now Carson that’s a different story. I’m not saying he is elite but he is the right QB for this team at this present moment and at least for the next 2 seasons. He has his flaws but he is playing good football considering his oline is garbage, our running game is garbage, our defense has moments were they play like garbage, our special teams aside from Jano is garbage. And despite all this, he doesn’t complain, he continues to give this team an opportunity to win.
For the next couple of seasons he will be the raiders QB, like it or not. This team has to much holes to fill and QB is at the bottom of that list. Mistic, I would love to have an Rg3 type QB, who wouldn’t. But bringing in Pryor or drafting a QB next year with the idea of having him start, would be disasterous with the players we have now on this roster. This team has other needs that will be address within the next 2 offseasons and QB will not be one of them. So rest assured that Cp3 will our man till further notice.
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Simple and Logical. Two Thumbs up.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
it was the charger game not the rams
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Entered the game UP 12-0, Jacoby had zero catches.
You fkn make shat up on here all the time, for whatever reason, like your talking to a bunch of people who don’t watch the games or have an internet connection.
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HAHAHAAHAHAHA, Wasn’t that the game TB’s fumble recovery sealed the deal for us , yeah i remember we were up 12-0 on them
November 7th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
da trinity Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Jason Campbell is probably the most talked about bench warming quarter back on the internet courtesy of this blog. I liked Campbell when he was here, he was just what we needed at that time. It was refreshing watching a QB with the ability to actually hit receivers on Target.
Bu the more he played, the more his limitations revealed themselves. He was capt. Checkdown. He was scared to take chances. I also remember that heart less slide he did in the Tennessee game were he slid short of the first because he was scared to get hit. Jason Campbell can QB a team like the Whiners. They have a solid defense and solid run game that he would be able to hide behind. He is not a QB who can shoulder a franchise.
Now Carson that’s a different story. I’m not saying he is elite but he is the right QB for this team at this present moment and at least for the next 2 seasons. He has his flaws but he is playing good football considering his oline is garbage, our running game is garbage, our defense has moments were they play like garbage, our special teams aside from Jano is garbage. And despite all this, he doesn’t complain, he continues to give this team an opportunity to win.
For the next couple of seasons he will be the raiders QB, like it or not. This team has to much holes to fill and QB is at the bottom of that list. Mistic, I would love to have an Rg3 type QB, who wouldn’t. But bringing in Pryor or drafting a QB next year with the idea of having him start, would be disasterous with the players we have now on this roster. This team has other needs that will be address within the next 2 offseasons and QB will not be one of them. So rest assured that Cp3 will our man till further notice.
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your opinion is noted
but the facts remain jc won more than plamer has in nearly the same amount of games.
if you are tired of discussing this then tell the haters to stop trashing him. As long as people do that i will remind them of the facts, blog opinions dont change themn
November 7th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Mistic,
I’m referring to this….
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What game are you thinking of?
Rams game was week 2, 2010. Soup benched at halftime after his last pass of the half was a horrendous wobbler that was picked off and took points off the board.
Bruce led us on a 2nd half comeback for the win.
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I was there and it’s true. Period…as Priest would say.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
See the AGenda from Mistic ?, he even added the game Bruce won it for us on Campbells w stat sheet , He will add Palmer’s first game with us into L SHeet after going into half time substituting for Boller down 28-0
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Gotta give it to him….he’s goes down fighting, thats for sure.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
OK with that i’ll take Campbells SD W off the board that 10 wins
November 7th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
163. Try Swisserland, highly reccomended by you know who?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Mistic no body can take you serious , you got big Agenda when it comes Palmer
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macbiggot
i know you feel good because the blog is mainly comprised of white guys that cant stand the fact the jc won more than palmer and grads.
Enjoy it, and i will enjoy reminding you and all the rest of the impostors jc better raider record, better raider td to turn overs, better raider qb
November 7th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Twocents Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
What other country might you suggest? I live in the most corrupt country in the world. I would like a place that has sound currency, peace and prosperity.
Oh, and tons of liberty.
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Sorry Twocents,
Better save up and buy an Island and start over.
Gilligan’s Island was pretty cool. FWIW
November 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
lol
macdumbass trying to take wins off the board as if they didnt happen
hahahahahahaha its in the record books
November 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Twocents Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
What other country might you suggest? I live in the most corrupt country in the world. I would like a place that has sound currency, peace and prosperity.
Oh, and tons of liberty.
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Any one you like. It will give you a wider perspective.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Between Gradkowski and Campbell, we had EASILY the most injury-prone QB situation.
Bruce got hurt in 2010, twice, once season ending, and in 2009 a season-ender as well.
Soup got hurt in his 2nd preseason game which lead to his rust and eventual benching to begin 2010 and had to leave the game with injury 2 times in 2010 (Jax-Pitt) than played a third of 2011 before having a season-ender.
What a bunch of stiffs. Glad we got a guy we can count on week to week.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Mistic,
I’m referring to this….
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What game are you thinking of?
Rams game was week 2, 2010. Soup benched at halftime after his last pass of the half was a horrendous wobbler that was picked off and took points off the board.
Bruce led us on a 2nd half comeback for the win.
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I was there and it’s true. Period…as Priest would say.
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i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
November 7th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Twocents try visiting another country, for once. Then maybe, you might know it all.
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LOL, Kell pulling out the international travel card again.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
We went 3-8 every time our Running back didn’t go over 100 yard games with JC , 9-2 every time our running back went over 100 yard games in 22 games JC career , so you do the math who was really responsible for our wins
November 7th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Is Mistic really still clambering on about JC and Palmer? Oh yeah, of course he is. SMH
November 7th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
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Jacoby Ford had ZERO catches in both games.
So other than having the team we played wrong, the score when he entered the game wrong, and sans your make believe “deep pass in the 4th quarter” to Jacoby Ford, you really nailed that one.
LMAO
November 7th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Between Gradkowski and Campbell, we had EASILY the most injury-prone QB situation.
Bruce got hurt in 2010, twice, once season ending, and in 2009 a season-ender as well.
Soup got hurt in his 2nd preseason game which lead to his rust and eventual benching to begin 2010 and had to leave the game with injury 2 times in 2010 (Jax-Pitt) than played a third of 2011 before having a season-ender.
What a bunch of stiffs. Glad we got a guy we can count on week to week.
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yep we can count on him tothrow picks that cost us the game like kc denver, detroit, atl, tb, mia gb, and sd
November 7th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
lol
macdumbass trying to take wins off the board as if they didnt happen
hahahahahahaha its in the record books
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OFCOURSE they didn’t happen , stop freaking trying to make JC look so good and Palmer look so bad even add his first game as L and adding all the stats to his career Raider stats
November 7th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Twocents try visiting another country, for once. Then maybe, you might know it all.
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LOL, Kell pulling out the international travel card again.
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Oh, I’m so silly. Lmao.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
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And… you posted my remarks and repeated it was the Charger game.
Just reaffirming what I know to be true.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
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Jacoby Ford had ZERO catches in both games.
So other than having the team we played wrong, the score when he entered the game wrong, and sans your make believe “deep pass in the 4th quarter” to Jacoby Ford, you really nailed that one.
LMAO
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lol so i screwed up the details off the top of my head
none of that changes that jc won and palmer hasnt
November 7th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Nobody is taking anything away from JC< but every one say that our running game which was way stronger than our passing game contributed more to the wins
3-8 when running back went under 100 yards
9-2 when RB went over 100 yards
November 7th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Wassup Len.
Why don’t you think we will see 4 LBs?
Curry as an edge rusher is what I was hoping to see.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
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And… you posted my remarks and repeated it was the Charger game.
Just reaffirming what I know to be true.
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in 2010 jc came off the bench and led the win vs sd
we didnt lose did we? why is this an issue
November 7th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
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And… you posted my remarks and repeated it was the Charger game.
Just reaffirming what I know to be true.
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in 2010 jc came off the bench and led the win vs sd
we didnt lose did we? why is this an issue
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we were up 12-0 when he went in so he hardly led the win
November 7th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Nobody is taking anything away from JC< but every one say that our running game which was way stronger than our passing game contributed more to the wins
3-8 when running back went under 100 yards
9-2 when RB went over 100 yards
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we disagree, i believ that because jc had made our recivers a threat and the deep ball was always in play the defense couldnt just key on dmac.
Now teams gear up to stop the run forcing palmer to pass knowing he will turn it over
November 7th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
i confused the ram game for the game that jc came off the bench to get the win…..and?
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And… you posted my remarks and repeated it was the Charger game.
Just reaffirming what I know to be true.
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in 2010 jc came off the bench and led the win vs sd
we didnt lose did we? why is this an issue
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we were up 12-0 when he went in so he hardly led the win
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did he lead a loss?
sorry bra it actually counts as a win in the record book
November 7th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
lol
macdumbass trying to take wins off the board as if they didnt happen
hahahahahahaha its in the record books
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OFCOURSE they didn’t happen , stop freaking trying to make JC look so good and Palmer look so bad even add his first game as L and adding all the stats to his career Raider stats
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Im dont have to “try to make” any body look any way
what they did on the field speaks for itself and is reflected in the record books
Only you go to the lengths of trying to make someone look other than they are
November 7th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Twocents try visiting another country, for once. Then maybe, you might know it all.
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LOL, Kell pulling out the international travel card again.
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Oh, I’m so silly. Lmao.
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You got that right.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
J Hill Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Wassup Len.
Why don’t you think we will see 4 LBs?
Curry as an edge rusher is what I was hoping to see.
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Personally I’d like to see it.
I’m just not getting the sense that Allen is ready to commit to it.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
JC played well in 2010, and benefitted from the awesome O-line and running game that Tom Cable produces everywhere he goes.
He deserved the right to push this team to the next level in 2011, and didn’t do it.
Neither has Carson.
But winning meaningless week 17 games like 2010, and games in October is no major accomplishment in my eyes.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Nobody is taking anything away from JC< but every one say that our running game which was way stronger than our passing game contributed more to the wins
3-8 when running back went under 100 yards
9-2 when RB went over 100 yards
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we disagree, i believ that because jc had made our recivers a threat and the deep ball was always in play the defense couldnt just key on dmac.
Now teams gear up to stop the run forcing palmer to pass knowing he will turn it over
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JC Total of 13 passing TD in 2011, sure did put a lot of scare in other teams
November 7th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ok haters i will be back
i hope palmer can pull his head out for baltimore, if he flops again the season is over, if it isnt all ready
November 7th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
JC played well in 2010, and benefitted from the awesome O-line and running game that Tom Cable produces everywhere he goes.
He deserved the right to push this team to the next level in 2011, and didn’t do it.
Neither has Carson.
But winning meaningless week 17 games like 2010, and games in October is no major accomplishment in my eyes.
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actaully he did push us to another level in 2011 try first place in the afc west
try wining the first home opener in years
try 4-2
try going undefeated against the division
try setting the single game scoring record for the raider franchise
carson hasnt done anything remotley close, so i agree with you there
November 7th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
actaully he did push us to another level in 2011 try first place in the afc west
try wining the first home opener in years
try 4-2
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Wow, 4-2 (got injured halfway through the 6th game)!!!
How many playoff games do you get for that?
Christian Ponder had his Vikings at 5-2 at one point in time this season.
He must be REALLLLLY good than.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Lmao at his claim that JCs arm put fear into opposing D’s which left running lanes open , I don’t see Brees arm or Brady’s arm opening holes for his Rb to be successful all game long
November 7th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
actaully he did push us to another level in 2011 try first place in the afc west
try wining the first home opener in years
try 4-2
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Wow, 4-2 (got injured halfway through the 6th game)!!!
How many playoff games do you get for that?
Christian Ponder had his Vikings at 5-2 at one point in time this season.
He must be REALLLLLY good than.
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jfb 4-2 was a big deal as it had been years since the last time it happened here
November 7th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Campbell is doing a great job I hear waxing Cutlers car.
November 7th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
ok guys now im gone
if yopu dont want to talk about jc vs palmer then dont bring him up
he won more than palmer end of story
November 7th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
JC played well in 2010, and benefitted from the awesome O-line and running game that Tom Cable produces everywhere he goes.
He deserved the right to push this team to the next level in 2011, and didn’t do it.
Neither has Carson.
But winning meaningless week 17 games like 2010, and games in October is no major accomplishment in my eyes.
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Yeah that was great huh, Kwame Harris and Mop handle what atackle tandem……..lol
November 7th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
jfb 4-2 was a big deal as it had been years since the last time it happened here
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All right, we can call Soup Mr. October
November 7th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I can’t wait till JC and Palmer are retired so we don’t have to hear about this sh*t anymore.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Mistic,..you can leave or stay, nobody cares either way.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Who was Mop Handle?
November 7th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I’m looking forward to seeing Jones get some snaps. Unfortunatly it might not last through the 1st qtr.
Might end up being the beer truck and Reece show.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Yeah that was great huh, Kwame Harris and Mop handle what atackle tandem……..lol
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Neither of those two were on the 2010 team.
The LT-RT combo was then…..the same as it is today!!!
Veldheer and Barnes, only a worse version as they have struggled since the day Cable left.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Jones is pure garbage,…over/under for fumbles lost is about 5…Im betting the over.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
211.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Jones is pure garbage,…over/under for fumbles lost is about 5…Im betting the over.
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Jones will get benched after fumble #1. If he doesn’t get hurt first. I’d like to see him get a shot though.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Jason Campbell career winning % per month:
September 61%
October 64%
November 35%
December 31%
Yup, Mr. October
November 7th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Vegas leave Campbell alone,…hes doing fine in Chicago,..Cutler said hes the best water boy hes ever had.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Yeah, excited to see Jones get a few carries, but really only excited to see what he can do with it.
I am not very optimstic.
He looks overwhelmed anytime he gets in the crosshairs of defenders. Great in space, terrible in traffic.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Ok, it’s official, Jason Campbell is October soup. Moving on.
It’s likely we’ll see Bergstrom this Sunday. At least in a back up role if Barnes can start. I’m also looking forward to that, get the dude some snaps and see what he can do in a game.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Yeah that was great huh, Kwame Harris and Mop handle what atackle tandem……..lol
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Neither of those two were on the 2010 team.
The LT-RT combo was then…..the same as it is today!!!
Veldheer and Barnes, only a worse version as they have struggled since the day Cable left.
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scary stuff man….
November 7th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Still arguing over J.C vs Palmer? LOL
Glad to see Taiwan finally get an opportunity to get some touches. Although I’m kind of worried of about how he’ll hold up after taking a pounding.
Don’t play like you are ‘Made in Taiwan’.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Priest,..you excited about Jones this weekend?…how many times you think the kid fumbles before he gets hurt?
November 7th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
If Bergs is active on Sunday, don’t see why he wouldn’t be, I believe he will get at least a series or two.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Agreed on Jones,
I don’t think he’s built for the NFL. But you never know!!! Dude could have a 150 yard day or a 1 yard day and get carted off to the hospital.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
It will be interesting to see if Jones makes any big play’s. Seeing as how he’s been in the doghouse all year.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
The Raiders should have released McLain instead of that Desoto dude,..make a statement…the entire league knows McLain is a total bust.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
I was just reading a bunch of racist tweets about the President. This place seems like a hippie love fest compared to the sh*t on twitter.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Players get in doghouses for a reason,..Jones fumbles constantly in practice.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Taiwan Jones… Should have named him Indiana.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Ravens run D is not all that great these days, I would think the plan would be to get Taiwan 7-10 touches, hope he doesn’t fumble any of them, and breaks off one big one.
Realistic expectations.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Taiwan needs to hang out with Napoleon Kaufman and pick up on some of his work out techniques. That boy looks hungry on the field.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I have doubts that Barnes will even be active this Sunday. He’s been out for awhile.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Even though Jones sucks and has butter fingers, hes still better then DMC.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I think our Run O would struggle against some top 25 college teams… Now you’ve got Taiwan and the boys trying to run it against the likes of Ngata…. Better to throw them deep routes our WRs like and Myers & Reece on intermediate routes
November 7th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
I expect us to be ready to tackle the other muscle hamster this week. Seen some pathetic shet on the field this past sunday.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Players get in doghouses for a reason,..Jones fumbles constantly in practice.
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That’s not what Palmer (The Golden Boy) says.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
You think hes a golden boy old kell?…nice to see you still feel inferior to certain looking people. Awesome.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Go get some listings old man,..close one,…your jealous old man bit is fun for us all but it must be Hell for you.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Jones is better than DMAC? Are we basing this on stats or something else i’m missing?
November 7th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
An old man your age, comes to a blog and gets abused by dudes less then half his age…sad.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Chockers cleared on Stickumgate but fined 20 large for sucking.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
232.MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
I expect us to be ready to tackle the other muscle hamster this week. Seen some pathetic shet on the field this past sunday.
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Hopefully Curry makes an impact. It’s been awhile but I hope he is 100%.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Its something youre missing Miami.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Well the good news is that Ray Rice has played a few years in the league and logged some miles, so as all RB’s do after a few years, he has lost a touch of that breakaway speed.
So we should be able to limit those 70 yard TD runs from this past weekend, to 55 yard runs that Branch tackles at the 15 yard line.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
*Breaking news – Jason Campbell sucks*
November 7th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I think we’ll win this game. Tampa has been on fire for the past month or so, leading the league in plenty of different offensive categories and scoring. We got beat by one guy and turnovers.
Oakland 37 Baltimore 33
November 7th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Go get some listings old man,..close one,…your jealous old man bit is fun for us all but it must be Hell for you.
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Oh yeah, it’s turrible.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
T.J. is like a candle. One good blow and he’s out.
This could be nerve wracking to watch, but I’m pulling for him.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
An old man like you,…jealous of golden people,..get over it old dude,..you will forever look like a greyhound bus driver….not my fault.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
An old man like you,…jealous of golden people,..get over it old dude,..you will forever look like a greyhound bus driver….not my fault.
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Not your fault, it’s my ancestry.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
“I feel like I’ve been waiting forever,” Palmer said. “I can’t wait. He does amazing things in practice and he’s by far the fastest person on the field and he will be the fastest person on the field on Sunday. And not that you want to see guys get banged up, but I’m excited about the opportunity he’s getting.
“I feel like since I’ve been here, I’ve waited for him to get his opportunity, and it hasn’t worked out. And here it is. He’ll get his touches, and I can’t wait.
Kind of an interesting statement from Palmer. You wonder how much is that hyping Jones and how much he is just tired of McFadden taking a 2 yard dive?
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Hey all you out there. I’m a big Raider fan. Like forever.
Also a liberal republican with conservative democrat tendencies.
Any body hear the rumor that rush limbaugh drop such a big turd in his drawers that it started to overflow from his waist? Emergency crews were called in but couldn’t get near him cuz the poo kept on oozin. Finally someone from his radio office tossed him a typewriter to use for a butt plug. Clean up crews hauled out more than two yards of poo from his radio office. Guess he really is full of it. Anyway, anyone hear that? Just wonderin.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
It’s funny how much men sweat other men on this blog. It’s like those construction workers that see that hot woman walk by the site and they start acting like a bunch of monkeys that have never seen a woman. LOL
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I just wish the Raiders had a better pass rush, Flacco aint no slouch. I would have no problem if the Raider DE’s win this game.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
LMFAO 249 Thanks for the laugh
November 7th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
If thats the case old kell I would sue your ancestors, for their welfare checks.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Take a water balloon and write Int’s over here and Stat’s over there and Wins/Losses some where else and Total Turnovers somewhere else and Support Staff some where else. When Mistic uses Int’s to make his point and you use that against him it’s like squeezing that part of the balloon and out pops Total Turnovers and you squeeze that and out pops Wins/Losses and you squeeze that and out pops Total Turnovers and… so on and so on. You get the point.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
morilla Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
T.J. is like a candle. One good blow and he’s out.
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Sounds like poetry. Maybe I should try.
Jones is like a kids toybox. When a bigger kid comes, balls go flying…
November 7th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Players get in doghouses for a reason,..Jones fumbles constantly in practice.
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That’s not what Palmer (The Golden Boy) says.
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I thought you liked Palmer, Kell. Not his fault knapps the OC.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I just wish the Raiders had a better pass rush, Flacco aint no slouch. I would have no problem if the Raider DE’s win this game.
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You think we might blitz a bit more in this game with Bartell returning? Ravens O-line is pretty good, they got some beasts on the line.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Scrambled egg,..its the golden part about Carson that old man kell doesnt like,..old kell in his mind was born inferior, and its a daily struggle with him and he makes sure this blog knows hes jealous and angry….I for one find it hilarious.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Ravens run the ZBS BTW.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Its even better when that old man is drunk and in here,…sucks for him he cant go back the next day to delete. LMAO
November 7th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Palmer works his arse off. His support team (coaches) are second rate and his co-workers (rb’s and wr’s) are hinge bound to to a inferior game planning oc.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Its even better when that old man is drunk and in here,…sucks for him he cant go back the next day to delete. LMAO
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE YUK YUK YUK..
You’re sooooooooooooooo witty.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Ravens run the ZBS BTW.
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So we should have a better understanding of how to attack them!?!? I like it!
November 7th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Looks like we got Ray Rice pseudo version and Ray Rice original version in consecutive weeks. And we could not stop the pseudo version.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Hard to say Miami,
The front four isn’t getting it done. I was really hoping that #77 would have a better year. DT’s aren’t getting much penetration. Houston has had some flahes but getting to the QB is a major problem.
When the Raiders blitz it seems like someone rolls out to the flats and is wide open.
Not sure what the solution is.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Bench Willie, activate Barnes and start Bergstrom. Lets see if this kid has a future in football.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
266.Carl Weathers Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Bench Willie, activate Barnes and start Bergstrom. Lets see if this kid has a future in football.
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At this point, it couldn’t be any worse. RT has been a problem that needs to be addressed.
November 7th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I thought 77 was going to be the real deal for us. SMH I agree with you, we need our dline to step it up!
November 7th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
SUP BLOG BRAHS AND GOOBS
Just got done tossin some mean salad after this hella dope monster duece set everyone off in a tizzy. The turd was so long you had to take a taxi to get from one end to the other. After I tossed some salad, lettuce tomatoes chicken garbonzo beans grated cheese and bleu cheese dressing, me and the posse went out for some jamba juice. So rad. Got it on video.
WHUT WHUT NOW GO BUST A NUT.
November 7th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
anyone seen beechy dawg? maybe he is with those shemales he met in Venice Beach
November 7th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Jones prepares for increased workload; Curry plans to bring passion With Nos. 1 and 2 running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson in question, second-year running back Taiwan Jones is preparing for an opportunity that he has waited for the past 1 1/2 seasons. To be clear, Raiders coach Dennis Allen isn’t rul… [...]
November 7th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Scrambled eggs and Raider Drink Says: That’s not what Palmer (The Golden Boy) says.======================================
Mistic calls him ‘The Golden haired Hero’.
November 7th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says: Ravens run the ZBS BTW.So we should have a better understanding of how to attack them!?!? I like it!====
If our offense doesn’t understand it, who knows about our defense?
November 7th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Good point Mr. P! lol Hope all is well good sir.
November 7th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says: Taiwan Jones… Should have named him Indiana.========================================================
Brother and sister are Thailand and Tasia.
November 7th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
JC played well in 2010, and benefitted from the awesome O-line and running game that Tom Cable produces everywhere he goes.
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LMFAO! Awesome Oline? Under Cabes the Oline never could pass block worth a schit. In 2011 however with Hue, Wiley and Wiz the Oline was top 5 in pass blocking. People come up with some funny schit on this blog, smdh
November 7th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Carson Palmer on Taiwan Jones. He puts his foot in the ground and goes. He wiggles out of hits, he wiggles out of tackles. Love his enthusiasm, but that IS against our defense. Hoping for the best, though.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
one time beechy dawg got in a train with these west hollywood shemales. beechy was the bottom and he couldnt walk for a week
November 7th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Go Galaxy! lol
November 7th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
one time beechy dawg got in a train with these west hollywood shemales. beechy was the bottom and he couldnt walk for a week
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I’ve heard that is so painful you cant even go doo doo for a week. Happened to a good friend of mine. Dude walked with a limp after that for about a month.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Purvisman
How is that beautiful Northern California land doing. I might be heading up to Lake Wildwood in a few weeks to visit my bud. Defenitely will be going up to Nev City and see some good music.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
outside fubar beechy dawg was drunk and he started to fondle a cop. beechy thought the guy was just dressed up as a cop. beechy almost got beat up
November 7th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
“I feel like I’ve been waiting forever,” Palmer said. “I can’t wait. He does amazing things in practice and he’s by far the fastest person on the field and he will be the fastest person on the field on Sunday. And not that you want to see guys get banged up, but I’m excited about the opportunity he’s getting.
“I feel like since I’ve been here, I’ve waited for him to get his opportunity, and it hasn’t worked out. And here it is. He’ll get his touches, and I can’t wait.
Kind of an interesting statement from Palmer. You wonder how much is that hyping Jones and how much he is just tired of McFadden taking a 2 yard dive?
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I just think he’s likes to talk up his teamates. If they see he talks that way about them it makes them want to perform better. But, I also think he finds truths. I bet you see Jones in practice break long runs. You always hear during the training camp how he makes people around him look like their moving slow.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Anaconda Is my middle name Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
one time beechy dawg got in a train with these west hollywood shemales. beechy was the bottom and he couldnt walk for a week
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I’ve heard that is so painful you cant even go doo doo for a week. Happened to a good friend of mine. Dude walked with a limp after that for about a month.
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Why does this seem like a person talking to himself?
November 7th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
beechams gay lover Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
outside fubar beechy dawg was drunk and he started to fondle a cop. beechy thought the guy was just dressed up as a cop. beechy almost got beat up
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My friend did the same thing, cept he was goin after the night stick. He had always heard sories about the night stick, cept I don’t think he realized how painful they can be, if you catch my drift. Word.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
283.raiderzmaverick Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
“I feel like I’ve been waiting forever,” Palmer said. “I can’t wait. He does amazing things in practice and he’s by far the fastest person on the field and he will be the fastest person on the field on Sunday. And not that you want to see guys get banged up, but I’m excited about the opportunity he’s getting.
“I feel like since I’ve been here, I’ve waited for him to get his opportunity, and it hasn’t worked out. And here it is. He’ll get his touches, and I can’t wait.
Kind of an interesting statement from Palmer. You wonder how much is that hyping Jones and how much he is just tired of McFadden taking a 2 yard dive?
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I just think he’s likes to talk up his teamates. If they see he talks that way about them it makes them want to perform better. But, I also think he finds truths. I bet you see Jones in practice break long runs. You always hear during the training camp how he makes people around him look like their moving slow.
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He may be the fastest guy on the field, but unless he can play running back in the NFL (which, in addition to finding the correct hole, running the right route, and hanging on to the ball, means picking up blitzes so Palmer doesn’t get killed), he’s not much use to anybody right now.
He looked totally lost in the preseason. Hopefully he’s improved to the point where he can contribute.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I heard two guys can get married while smoking a joint in washington. Voters just approved it. And to think there were other issues at stake. What is this world coming too. Word.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
283.raiderzmaverick Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I just think he’s likes to talk up his teamates.
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You’re probably right. I just thought his choice of words were interesting.
November 7th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Based on the QB’s concerning Jones. I have no concerns other why he hasn’t recieved a single snap prior to last week. If you had played him even sparingly their would be no ? what he could do.
This coahcingb staff has totally dropped the ball in respects some bigplay talent. Reece, TJ, Ausberry and even DHB to some extent. They have zero imagination when it comes to exploiting the talent on hand.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
https://twitter.com/Raiderfan_559/status/266368510073139200/photo/1
Legend_Since_78 @Raiderfan_559
True Story: and this pretty much is #PalmersFault #RaiderNation pic.twitter.com/rriV0Xdg
November 7th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Reece and Ausberry are having their best years of their career.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PalmersFault&src=hash
November 7th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I don’t know if DHB will get to 975 yards this year, probably a little short, but I am willing to bet he sets a career high in TD’s.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
The reason we’re 3-5 I feel is directly related to the poor utiliztion of some very talented players because the coaching staff is too busy putting players in doghouses and ignoring obvious talent due to stereotyping and prejudice. Palmer is saying what he feels and what other players are probably too afraid to say in anticipation of retaliation from the coahcing staff.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Palmer is simply speaking for others because he knows he can get away with it.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Put yourself in Palmers shoes for a second. he is charged with running a scheme he’s not suited for adn the coaching has guys standing on the sideline that can help him succeed yet wont play them due to politics. How would you feel is you’re looking at a kid who’s tearing it up in practice but the coaches wont play him. he has spoken in similar fashion about Ausberry ……….do you EVER see Ausberry? Now TJ has gone 8 games with a grand total of (1) carry. What do you think is going through Palmers mind?? huh?
He’s probably pissed as hell…
November 7th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I thought with his stats and Total Turnovers, he was on really thin ice.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Put yourself in Palmers shoes for a second. he is charged with running a scheme he’s not suited for adn the coaching has guys standing on the sideline that can help him succeed yet wont play them due to politics. How would you feel is you’re looking at a kid who’s tearing it up in practice but the coaches wont play him. he has spoken in similar fashion about Ausberry ……….do you EVER see Ausberry? Now TJ has gone 8 games with a grand total of (1) carry. What do you think is going through Palmers mind?? huh?
He’s probably pissed as hell…
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…add to that Criner. Everytime i’ve seen him on the field; the one time in preseason and last Sunday he’s ripping the ball away from the opponent and making a dynamic catch.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Wanna hear something funny ? Mistic thinks our running game was good in 10 and 11 because Jason Campbell’s measly 175 yards a game and average of 1 TD per game scared the piss outta the D , so they were all geared towards stopping JC hence why McFadden put up huge #s on the ground.. More funny stories to come when Mistic shows up in here again
November 7th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
…off topic but am i the only one who can’t understand why some people think Gallagher is funny?
November 7th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
…also, with all these stories about bigfoot how come NO ONE has ever caught him?
Ok, i’m done.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Yo Priest,..TJ,..my man from Mountain View,…you dont empty the garbage cans at HQ anymore so just shut your old clap trap…Jones doesnt get on the field because he sucks, fumbles,..thats also why he was barely drafted….but you say cause of stereotyping and prejudice?…get a grip old timer….but Sunday is your chance to see the kid fumble a few times before getting hurt.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Put yourself in Palmers shoes for a second. he is charged with running a scheme he’s not suited for adn the coaching has guys standing on the sideline that can help him succeed yet wont play them due to politics. How would you feel is you’re looking at a kid who’s tearing it up in practice but the coaches wont play him. he has spoken in similar fashion about Ausberry ……….do you EVER see Ausberry? Now TJ has gone 8 games with a grand total of (1) carry. What do you think is going through Palmers mind?? huh?
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I don’t know if I would totally agree with this statement. lst off, people say Palmer is not suited for this scheme just like they say McFadden is not suited for the scheme. Can you imagine telling Tom Brady he is not suited for a certain scheme? I am sure he would give you a look. The big misnomer is the scheme we are running is a short passing game. That is flat out wrong. Bill Walsh rarely if ever used three step drops. They were almost always 5’s or 7’s.
I don’t think they aren’t playing Jones because they don’t like him or don’t think he can play or something polical. They aren’t playing him because he puts the ball on the ground. And that is the FIRST THING a RB can do to get his coach fired.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Priest, you aren’t really saying the staff is prejudiced against Taiwan?
In what manner?
November 7th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Priest has had too much wine and metamucil tonight.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
27-20 purple pansies can’t stop the code black attack
November 7th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Really McFaggin…going to go to Baltimore and beat that team after losing at home to a below average team?…ya ok,…
Ravens 48
Raiders 13
November 7th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Priest obviously hangs out with Mistic too much , he used to make some what sense before
November 7th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
TB is not below average, we would have beaten the snot out of the if it was not for us coming off playing 2 weeks in a row against well rested teams and playing against well ested team again i3rd week in a row, how else do you explain allowing just 1 TD in first half and 5 in2nd half?
November 7th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Priest you are claiming the reason some players aren’t playing is due to politics?Yet when Al was alive and running things,if someone suggested that you’d chide them for suggesting the team doesn’t put the best players on the field.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I’m not speaking in racial terms…………man for crying out loud is race the only thing you guys comprehend. I’m talking about MR Davis’ players don’t seem to get equal treatment………….OBVIOUSLY!
Can’t believe I had to explain that…
November 7th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
TB sucks, have a loser QB,..however they came up here and ran over a gutless team with no heart. Simple as that,..for a simple minded person like you.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Priest,..go to bed.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Mistic is funny a$$ fukk he thinks JC should get the wins in games he gets pulled and the other QB leads us to a win or in games he comes in while our team is leading by 12 lol and Palmer should get the loss in a game he comes in down 28-0 already lol
November 7th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
get help! how in hell could i be speaking in racial terms when they’re playing a blakc player over a black player……….use some common sense.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Come on Priest.Aren’t McFadden,Veldheer,Lil’ Wiz,all 3 TEs,Kelly,Bryant,Houston,Branch,etc all Davis’s players?Aren’t they all getting equal treatment?
November 7th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
oh crap. Priest thinks AD players are being discriminated. Yeah….they are discriminated because THEY CANNOT PLAY. Wantai Jones has fumbled in just about each game he touched the ball this year. Simply AD scholarship players SUCK.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
November 7th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
TB sucks, have a loser QB,..however they came up here and ran over a gutless team with no heart. Simple as that,..for a simple minded person like you.
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Are you some dumb fukk or what ? Why do you think DA gave the team both Monday and Tuesday off after KC game he saw that we just played 2 teams coming off byes in consecutive weeks and going to play another team coming off extended rest , but that didn’t really do much for our team, our team got pushed around in 2nd half cuz TB was the fresher team ,god it’s common sense,why are there so many idiots in here like
November 7th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Like you %^^^***
November 7th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Ah man Priest I had it all messed up,..you said they werent playing Taiwon Jones due to discrimiation, stereotyping,..man I thought maybe Taiwon was a gook or something, thought thats what you meant,..cool we got it cleared up now.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Yeah Reece sucks why use him Ausberry will never amount to anything just keep struggling to score and losing. We’re 3-5 why was the kid in a doghouse when the QB says he’s tearing it up in practice???? tell me why?
November 7th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
McFaddon,..you really are a simple minded person arent you?…got nothing to do with rest,..has all to do with heart…and the Raiders have none.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
W’s win. Sweet.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Hey Priest,..go to bed.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Priest I remember when you used to get on guys for complaining when their favorite players were benched for someone.Now you are doing the same thing.Once the players earn time they will get it.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
The good news is the player with the least heart, DMC, hes done for the year,..hes played his last game as a Raider.
November 7th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I want to see more billukidi and Desmond Bryant at Dt heck get Houston some time at DT too , Kelly and Seymour only come to play when they want to
November 7th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
McFaddon,..you really are a simple minded person arent you?…got nothing to do with rest,..has all to do with heart…and the Raiders have none.
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Got nothing to do with rest ??? So you mean when teams have been on the field all damn day long and the 4th quarter comes then they all of a sudden start getting bowled over by running backs cuz of no heart ? Nothing to do with fatigue? Lmao I thought Mistic was the dumbest guy in here , someone just took his crown
November 7th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
That’s OK man this place is consummed with race, those terms don’t only apply to racial situations obviously. I assumed everyone knew that. My bad!
I wnat to win and when the QB is crying about not using players that can help him win. I want to know why?? Is it they just don’t want invest time developing them because they’re “Al Davis” type players? Palmer is wondering why this kid hasn’t PLAYED that makes me ASK ????? I want answers not some coach speak……………period
November 7th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I agree that this team comes out with no heart sometimes but you’re in denial if the rest and fatigue played no part in how our D played in2nd half
November 7th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Lefty12, The QB is saying he thinks the kid should be playing……….I’m basing my comments solely on his NOT my favorite crap……….The QB is asking WHY!!
November 7th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Hey Priest, take your old racist butt to bed, its late.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
That’s OK man this place is consummed with race, those terms don’t only apply to racial situations obviously. I assumed everyone knew that. My bad!
I wnat to win and when the QB is crying about not using players that can help him win. I want to know why?? Is it they just don’t want invest time developing them because they’re “Al Davis” type players? Palmer is wondering why this kid hasn’t PLAYED that makes me ASK ????? I want answers not some coach speak……………period
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Jones got chances to show his skills,if they really didn’t want to develop him, they could have cut him already , it’s not like we’re paying him too much and we’ll get salary cap hit
November 7th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Palmer didn’t say he should be playing.He said he couldn’t wait to see what he will do,that he was glad he is finally getting the opportunity.Palmer talked of his potential.We should all hope he does things in games that he has shown in practice.Can’t do anything but help the team.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
When I read quotes by the franchise QB praising certain players unprovoked. That speaks volmuns to me he’s using the media to put pressure on the coaching staff to make some changes.
You don’t speak in the terms Palmer used to describe TJ for nothing. He did the same thing for Ausberry yet have we seen Ausberry……..tell me WHY?
If the QB says these guys can help us why aren’t we using them…………period
November 7th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Palmer knows McFaggen is done for the year,..he also knows Jones sucks,..but also knows the have no choice but to play him,..Palmer just saying something positive,..Palmer still kicking himself for coming out of retirement.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
…off topic but am i the only one who can’t understand why some people think Gallagher is funny?
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Here’s a review for one of his shows back in 2010. Money quote: “I cannot believe Bill Hicks is dead and this motherf***er is still touring.”
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/gallagher-is-a-paranoid-right-wing-watermelon-smashing-maniac/Content?oid=4357855
November 7th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Lefty12, You should know by now when he says he’s been waiting for a year ad a half to see this kid. He’;s seeing it everyday in practice so why can’t we see it on Sunday…………..you EARN playing time in practice that’s the wya it’s always been.
Come on man YOU KNOW what he meant…
November 7th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Hey Priest, you never dug Gruden either did you…now get your old butt back in bed,..its late.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Palmer CAN’T SAY THAT it would be a direct conflict with the staff so what he does is praise the kids practice habits which says it all without saying it.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
There are only so many balls to go around and so many plays.There must be some deficiency in Ausberry’s game because when Gordon is healthy,he plays over him.As the coach said,TJ has had injury issues and when the competition was open between he and Goodson,Goodson preformed while,unfortunately,TJ sat due to an injury.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Why don’t you call Gruden and profess your love for him and leave me alone.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Hey Priest,..Sunday night you will blame all Jones fumbles on Palmer handing the ball off weirdly to the kid. Now get back in bed. Its late.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Lefty12 Goodson is DA’s guy…………..period
November 7th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
TJ was healthy enough to play on ST’s why couldn’t he get a sniff at HB?? bullcrap!
November 7th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Goodson has performed when given the opportunity.McFadden is the top dog.I’m not saying TJ can’t play,but how do you bench one of the other guys to get him carries?You know as well as i that often a young talented player has to bide his time until that time when he is given his chance comes.Now that his time has arrived,he’d better grab it.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
That’s fine I’m just going by Palmers comments….that is all.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Hey Priest,..arent you aware that Jones sucks?…fumbles…cant take a hit…is nothing but a 40 yard dash guy…not a football player…you need to get a clue…go to bed dude its late.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
With Goodson injured,the opportunity for TJ to prove he should be getting the reps over him has arrived.Lets hope he can do it.It would do nothing but help the team.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Jones is on special teams because the players on the team who suck and dont get in the games end up there. Wake up you jive turkey.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
What sucks is your attempt at anything related to football.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Lefty12, I have zero ? as to TJ’s talent that is why I’m soo adament about this. Goodson is NOT a better players than TJ he’s just DA’s guy. Goodson is a fumbler and shakey as hell in pass pro. As far as running in open field it aint close………..period
November 7th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Im at every game you old fish eyed fool. Row 1. Now go to bed you old heathan.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
You guys have ?’s about TJ mine have been answered, this kid is lethal in openfield. Sure he will struggle in pass pro like any young player that is where coaching and playcalling have to be on point.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Iv noticed NOBODY is bummed that DMC is done for the year,..Im certainly not.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
I don’t see how TJ gets no plays when you’re at the bottom of the league in Rushing. In fact nobody gets any carries but DMAC. You need more than one back, as M Bush proved.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Oh my Lord look whos here,..he must have just got done wrapping up sales on developements,..either that or he just woke up from his 6 hour midday nap.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
KK My sentiments exactly!
November 7th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
What a shock,..these two 80 year old jive turkeys agree.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
WE need DMC it’s just that the way this coaching staff have approached the running game is criminal.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Somebody is really in need of attention, right now. Lol.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Jones should be used on punt and kick returns
November 7th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
I’ve always been impressed with TJones and want to see what the kid can do. As I said after the game, this injury to DMAC could be a blessing in disguise. I don’t hope for injury on anyone, but let’s see what some of the other backs can do.
Besides, Palmer sure is talking the kid up and you would think he knew a thing or two about his play being that he practices with him. I don’t think Palmer would blow smoke up our rears just for sh1t’s sake.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
They’ve chosen to go against Palmer strengths and Dmac’s strengths, and the Oline’s strengths.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I don’t think Palmer would just be blowing smoke,but it doesn’t surprise he is building the kid up.I’d hope he’d do that for any youngster forced into action or to put it better,any youngster getting his opportunity after working for that chance and showing he is capable in practice.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
It’s an excercise in how not to coach if you want to win. DA has allowed Knaap to render the talent useless.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Well, that’s true Lefty. Good point.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Lefty12, I think you’re totally missing what Palmer is saying, he’s saying this kid is special. It’s not about some hardworking kid getting an opportunity an dhim supporting him. He’s going way over the top in his praise letting everyone know the kid is different. He did the same thing for DMo but do you hear him say that about the other young WR’s NNOOOO!! Certain guys he singles out DMo, Ausberry and TJ….
November 7th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Priest with a good point too. It is a bit over the top for just trying to pump someone up. You forgot one name, priest. Palmer gushes about Reece too.
November 7th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
True! I’ve only heard him talk like this about a couple of players. Not all..
November 7th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
…off topic but am i the only one who can’t understand why some people think Gallagher is funny?
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Here’s a review for one of his shows back in 2010. Money quote: “I cannot believe Bill Hicks is dead and this motherf***er is still touring.”
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/gallagher-is-a-paranoid-right-wing-watermelon-smashing-maniac/Content?oid=4357855
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Wow! Oh my gawd.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Palmer is trying to win guys and he wants the coaches to play the players he THINKS he can win with. THat’s WHY he singles these kids out because he knows what they can do.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I don’t think Palmer would just be blowing smoke,but it doesn’t surprise he is building the kid up.
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I agree. But Palmer is a pretty steady guy and not a big rah rah guy. And the statement that juts out at me is “I feel like I’ve been waiting forever,” Palmer said. “I can’t wait. And he repeats “I can’t wait” again. I am wondering if he just wants someone out there that can produce something out of the RB position. Mainly for his own sanity.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Say Lefty, congratulations on the general election BTW. THAT, was a demolition of conservative dogma.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
The only key reason that I can think of for not wanting to have Jones on the field is if he isn’t cutting it in the pass blocking department. That’s typically the hardest thing for young RBs to pick up in the NFL.
The reality is that the Raiders are now almost exclusively a passing offense. Yeah, they try every game to set the tempo with a run game, but if that’s not effective early, they are usually down soon enough and in come from behind mode.
So if they aren’t comfortable with Jones in protection, then he also becomes one dimensional as a receiver only out of the backfield. That’s easy for a DC to pick up on and scheme against with blitzes and overloads where the RB has to make a crucial block to keep the QB alive.
My guess is that we’ll get a chance to see Jones early with some efforts to run. If that’s not creating enough of a threat to keep the defense honest, I think we’ll see him out for most plays and seeing either empty backfields (with Reese split out) or even using someone like Gordon in the backfield as an extra pass blocker that can occassionally slip out for a surprise pass his way.
Also, if Bergstrom starts that’ll be another sign that they’ve decided to be a pass first offense. Both Barnes and Smith are toast against fast edge rushers in pass blocking, as they are both better suited as run blockers. I think (from what little we saw preseason) that Bergstrom is more balanced. He might be giving up something in the run game in exchange for better pass protection.
All that said, the personnel choices atthe start and early on are going to be a tip towards what the game plan will be.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
You don’t speak in the terms Palmer used to describe TJ for nothing. He did the same thing for Ausberry yet have we seen Ausberry……..tell me WHY?
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Probably because Brandon Myers has been our best offensive player out there. Other than Palmer.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
I agree. But Palmer is a pretty steady guy and not a big rah rah guy. And the statement that juts out at me is “I feel like I’ve been waiting forever,” Palmer said. “I can’t wait. And he repeats “I can’t wait” again. I am wondering if he just wants someone out there that can produce something out of the RB position. Mainly for his own sanity.
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Palmer wants help and he sees this kid as the help he needs. That is the only reason someone goes to that length in praise of them.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
I wonder if what Palmer is saying between the lines about “can’t wait for TJ” has anything to do with his effectiveness running in the ZBS. DMac certainly hasn’t done himself any favors with his reads and decision making. It may be that Palmer sees TJ doing a better job as a ZBS runner in the above the shoulders part of the game. If he can show the patience and lateral movement to wait for and find the whole, he definitely has the one cut and go speed to make it count.
I know that’s a big assumption here, but if that is what Palmer is alluding too, then it’d be really interesting to see the running game suddenly gel with a change of RB in the same scheme.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Zymurge Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
The only key reason that I can think of for not wanting to have Jones on the field is if he isn’t cutting it in the pass blocking department. That’s typically the hardest thing for young RBs to pick up in the NFL.
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You are exactly right. You make a very good point. And seeing Jones lined up in the backfield, most DC’s would send LB’s or safeties at him and make him pickup the protections. That would be the defensive strategy.
So, you could line up Jones in the slot or flank him, and even in the face of a blitz, with a very savvy veteran Q which we have, all we would need to do would be complete a four yard pass to Jones hot, and he might easily take it to the house with his speed. “Theoretically” at least.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
27-20 I’m out night nation
November 7th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
I don’t want to “read” into any statements Palmer might be making, but it did kind of jump off the page at me.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Palmer wants help and he sees this kid as the help he needs. That is the only reason someone goes to that length in praise of them.
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Exactly.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Something else just occurred to me about what a change to Bergstrom might mean. I hear all this talk about how the Raiders have a PBS OL that is being forced to run ZBS, but do they? Both guards are proven in the ZBS with other teams, although with Carlisle it was about 100 years ago and he’s not nearly what he once was. Still, that’s 2/5ths of the line.
Meanwhile, Bergstrom is the first OL pick by the new regime. I assume that at the draft this regime already knew what system they’d be running, so it stands to reason that they picked him because they saw ZBS skills. If you read the draft report on him, it says that he moves well in space but isn’t explosive. Sounds like a prototypical ZBS guy to me. So if we say that he is more zone than power, we’re now looking at a move that brings the line to 3/5ths Zone biased.
But it gets better. Go read the draft analysis on Little Wiz from a few years back. It talks about his smarts, ability to read but that he lacks the lower body strength to be a driver. Then goes on to say that he would be a good fit in a ZBS in the NFL. Hmmmmm. Are we talking 4/5ths now?
So then I went and looked at what they said about Veldheer. He moved up the draft boards mainly because at the workouts he surprised with his mobility and speed for a guy his size. Sound like zone skills? Either way, his forte is pass blocking and protecting the blind side trumps whatever shortcomings he might have in the run game.
So now I’m slightly optimistic that if Bergstrom is showing signs of being ready, this could be the final piece that helps the ZBS start gelling. Remember that this is a scheme where all 5 OL have to be moving and reading in synch. If there’s a weak link at RT, any run to that side is potentially fubar from the snap. If Bergstrom is even slightly better than Barnes or Smith have been (not a very high bar there!) then who knows, this could also be the key that opens up the ZBS.
November 8th, 2012 at 12:13 am
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November 8th, 2012 at 12:21 am
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November 8th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
2012 college watch list
1.) tahj boyd 30 td 9 int.
the junior from clemson is having another very good season, i think though he still is a bit too streaky and has the tendency to force the miracle play. he will need to mature in that regard but ha can make every throw and is polished passer. At this stage he is a poor mans jeff garcia only much much more athletic.
2.Ej manual 17 tds 4 ints
the senior signal caller has it all. he stands 6″5 he runs like the wind, he has an nfl ready throwing motion and he is a classic drop back passer when he stands in the pocket. His biggest asset is is toughness, he played the bowl game on a broken leg leading a fourth quarter come back win, and he is insanely athletic. With the right coaching and in a the right system this kid could be a fantastic nfl qb ( I HOPE THE RAIDERS DRAFT HIM). he is a winner a very hard worker and a phenomenal leader. He also plays in a pro style offense at fsu. i personally think he would be perfect in a wco spread hybrid offense like we have seen in a few other nfl cities over the last few seasons. the kid behind him jamioues winston will be fun to watch when ej departs.
3)Logan thomas 19 tds 12 ints
Coming into this season the comparisons between he and cam newton were all over the place, i didnt buy them then i dont buy them now. this converted tight end has lots of work to do with reading defense and decision making. he isnt in cams class as a passer and i dont think he is the same kind of runner. right now i would compare him to tim tebow only tebow seems to be able to ove come mistakes and ugly passing and fnd ways to win, thomas doesnt seem to have that same ability.
4.)geno smith wvu 30 tds 3 int
what can be said about geno that hasnt already been said, remove him from the wvu offense and that team is a bottom feeder. he is accurate extremely smart with the ball and is athletic. i would compare him most to jason campbell, a guy that can extend plays or pick up a 3rd and 7 with his feet, but more often than not scrambles to pass and at times is reluctant to run. he will fit into any offensive scheme and i thin whom ever drafts him will have one of the best in his class along with ej manual.
5.) teddy bridgewater lousiveille 19 tds 4 int
this is one of my absolute favorites he is just a sophomore and he reminds me most of rgIII. In terms of the way he throws the ball he is another example of how the game has changed playing in spread all his life means he is a passer first, and he shows it every Saturday. he will be another that gets to the nfl ready to pass and succeed from the pocket. like rgIII this kid was denied the opportunity to compete at qb by most schools he was recruited by, thank god for charlie strong. now he has a chance to play in january inn a major bowl, something that the cardinal could never experience with out him.
6.) Braxton miller ohio state 29 tds 6 int
this is perhaps the most athletic qb of the bunch, he is clutch tough and is a touchdown machine. braxton will need to improve his passing and be more judicious with the bal. he is a high wire act and if he can become more consistent passer he will be in the hies man conversation in the next two years. micheal vick at virginia tech is the closest comparison to miller
7. brett hundly ucla 27 tds 8ints
this redshirt freshman is just flat out fun to watch. he is a very good passer and can also motor with huge size he is josh freeman only faster on his feet and a better passer as a collegiate.
8. terrance owens toledo 18 tds 5 ints
this kid is probably the least heralded of the group but only because the school is so low profile.
owens has the size and the arm, he comes from a passing attack and would fit well into a tom brady spread or peyton manning type offense where you make line calls and audibles after pre sanp reads. he is fantastically athletic and is a step slower than randall cuningham but still very good. ======================================== ANOTHER LIST OF FUTURE NFL DUMB BABOON LOSERS JUST LIKE… VINCE YOUNG…TAVARIS JACKSCOON….QUINCY CARTER….BYRON LEFTDITCH….SHAWN KING….AARON BROOKS….ANDRE WARE…AKILI SMITH….TROY SMITH….DUMBOVAN MCNABB….JACARCAS RUSSELL…DUMMY CULPEPPER…ROHAN DAVEY….JOE HAMILTON….ANDRE WOODSON….TONY BANKS…TOMMIE FRAZIER…ADRIAN MCPHERSON….DAVID GARRAD….CLEO LEMON….TEE MARTIN….MICHAEL BISHOP….ANTHONY WRIGHT…CHARLIE BATCH…JUICE WILLIAMS…MICHAEL ROBINSON….PAT WHITE…JOSH JOHNSON….SENECA WALLACE….DENNIS DIXON = WHAT A WAVE OF THE FUTURE !!! LMFAO!!!!!
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November 8th, 2012 at 12:36 am
Zymurge Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
I wonder if what Palmer is saying between the lines about “can’t wait for TJ” has anything to do with his effectiveness running in the ZBS. DMac certainly hasn’t done himself any favors with his reads and decision making. It may be that Palmer sees TJ doing a better job as a ZBS runner in the above the shoulders part of the game. If he can show the patience and lateral movement to wait for and find the whole, he definitely has the one cut and go speed to make it count.
I know that’s a big assumption here, but if that is what Palmer is alluding too, then it’d be really interesting to see the running game suddenly gel with a change of RB in the same scheme.
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Obviously DMAC isn’t comfortable in the Zone Blocking scheme. He just doesn’t see or “feel” the holes developing or whatever. He’s hesitant or unsure or whatever.
T. Jones always had the problem he was running at full speed right away, but he’s so darned fast, even with nothing ahead of him he’ll make some things happen.
One thing is for sure – it’s unlikely to be LESS effective than it has been so far.
November 8th, 2012 at 12:38 am
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
I don’t see how TJ gets no plays when you’re at the bottom of the league in Rushing. In fact nobody gets any carries but DMAC. You need more than one back, as M Bush proved.
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None of the other RBs got no carries because Knapp is stubbornly trying to prove the superiority of his scheme by showing how this talented runner who averaged over 5ypc 2 years in a row would just “take time to adjust”. But it wasn’t happening.
But, if you bench your starting RB who was effective as heck, you’re just showing how ineffective you are at “coaching it up”.
November 8th, 2012 at 12:45 am
“…what can be said about geno that hasnt already been said, remove him from the wvu offense and that team is a bottom feeder. he is accurate extremely smart with the ball and is athletic. i would compare him most to jason campbell…”
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You lost me the second you compared someone “extremely smart” with Jason Campbell!
The one thing Campbell lacked was the quick enough mind to digest the NFL game. He always took way too long at the LOS to read and make his audibles, if not causing delay of games, not getting the right adjustments made before the snap. He also was a half second behind in his post snap reads leading him to progress quickly down to either the easiest dump off or the throw it out of bounds option.
If Campbell were extremely smart, then combined with his arm, legs and leadership he’d be in the same conversation as the top 10 starters right now and not a back up.
November 8th, 2012 at 12:52 am
5.) teddy bridgewater lousiveille 19 tds 4 int
this is one of my absolute favorites he is just a sophomore and he reminds me most of rgIII. In terms of the way he throws the ball he is another example of how the game has changed playing in spread all his life means he is a passer first, and he shows it every Saturday. he will be another that gets to the nfl ready to pass and succeed from the pocket. like rgIII this kid was denied the opportunity to compete at qb by most schools he was recruited by, thank god for charlie strong. now he has a chance to play in january inn a major bowl, something that the cardinal could never experience with out him.
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This one I hate the most – he was commited to Miami and then last-minute backed out and went to BFE. No loyalty.
November 8th, 2012 at 1:43 am
hey mistic–
MV: Carson Palmer was a pain in Baltimore’s you-know-what when he was with the Cincinnati Bengals. He has been with the Raiders for a little over a year now and appears to be settling in. How do you think he has played this season and what is the offense’s ceiling with him under center?
JM: Palmer could end up setting a Raiders passing yardage record this season, but that was never the plan. The hope was they’d be one of the top rushing teams in the NFL, instead they’re one of the worst. The Raiders’ 3-5 record is not impressive, but without Palmer, one of several quarterbacks they’ve had since Rich Gannon, they’d be 0-8. He makes one throw per game that makes you scratch your head, but has been very good at bringing the Raiders from behind in the fourth quarter.
as u have seen repeatedly, nobody here, excluding priest thinks u have any football knowledge, and no nfl brass feel anything close to what u feel.
but of course we all knew that anyway.
btw, our golden haired hero is awesome isn’t he?
November 8th, 2012 at 1:56 am
it was a little surprising to hear palmer being so effusive about taiwan. u could sense that maybe he’s not been happy with dmc. for him to go on about jones like that really stands out as an unspoken complaint about how poor the running game has been. it will be interesting to see jones go. he does have great skates, but man is he slight. playing at 6′0 195 is ok at cb or wr, but to tote the rock 20 times and get smashed by multiple guys weighing 250-350 every time is asking a lot. he’s not built like mjd. he’s built like denarious. so i expect we will se 10 carries from reece, who has never really been a ball carrier in college or the pros. he does run well after catches so it wouldn’t surprise me to see him break off a couple 15+ gains.
November 8th, 2012 at 2:23 am
poor beeech is gonna have to come up with a more appropriate song for the lakers.
guess that’s really why they call it the blues.
November 8th, 2012 at 2:39 am
you guys need to lightin up on beechy dawg. ever since he got fired from olive garden he is not the same. his mom is a mess and he just left fubar with four shemales. they will take turns stirring his peanut butter. he doesn’t seem to care anymore
November 8th, 2012 at 2:59 am
Even with healthy running backs, execution and game circumstance have made quarterback Carson Palmer the Raiders’ most indispensable player.
Whatever roles Jones and Reece have in the backfield Sunday, any chance the Raiders have of beating the 6-2 Baltimore Ravens on the road rest with Palmer doing what he does best against a team he beat nine times in 13 starts as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals.
“I don’t fear any quarterback, but I’m always worried when I play Carson Palmer,” Ravens outside linebacker Terrell Suggs said Wednesday by conference call. “We came from the same draft class. We played him at USC when I was at Arizona State, so this guy’s kind of tortured me through all my college and professional career.”
With McFadden struggling even when healthy, the Raiders have become a pass-first team through necessity.
Palmer has 2,355 yards passing at the midway point of the season, a pace that would give him a franchise record of 4,710 yards over 16 games. That’s more
than Rich Gannon’s 4,689 yards in 2002, the year he won the Most Valuable Player award.
With 13 touchdown passes at the midway point, Palmer is on pace for Gannon’s 26 touchdown passes as well.
November 8th, 2012 at 3:00 am
mistic has “exposed” himself
November 8th, 2012 at 3:02 am
Ravens coach John Harbaugh told reporters in Baltimore Palmer looks much the same as he did with the Bengals when he was beating the Ravens.
“Some of the same things he did in Cincinnati, he’s doing now,” Harbaugh said. “There’s not a throw he can’t make, and when he’s on, he’s on time. He can really stick it in tight windows. He’s a fearless competitor. You watch him play with a tremendous enthusiasm out there. We’ve got a lot of respect for Carson Palmer.”
November 8th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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November 8th, 2012 at 4:24 am
If the Raiders just had a little more talent to go along with Palmer I think he’d be the Palmer most of us thought he’d be…… Yep.. I’m a Palmer fan…he’s the Raiders best chance to win a game right now…
November 8th, 2012 at 4:43 am
Enjoying watching the W’s win, Landry was a great pickup. Bogut….not so much.
Klay Thompson is struggling a bit being the starting SG every night. One of the tougher jobs in all of sports. He will get better, but I see him as a Detlef Schrempf type, good not great.
Certainly not making any All-Star teams anytime soon.
November 8th, 2012 at 4:52 am
It’s funny that we lose our “star” running back and nobody cares. A lot of us our probably glad he got injured. It’s too bad Goodson’s hurt too.
November 8th, 2012 at 4:56 am
We have lost our “Star” running back for portions of 4 out of 5 years now.
Old hat.
November 8th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Reggie needs to send some scouts out to watch this 9 year old girl who plays RB.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/internet-sensation–nine-year-old-girl-shredding-defenses-to-the-tune-of-25-touchdowns.html
November 8th, 2012 at 5:16 am
The girl’s nickname is “Sweet Feet”, and she has more moves than DMac. She breaks more tackles too.
November 8th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Mike brown you pos!
November 8th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Anything new this morning? Haven’t looked at my phone yet…
November 8th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Is that first round pick(s) that the Lakers sent for Nash lottery-protected????
LMAO!!!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Dont worry about the fakers. Jim Buss said he looked at Kobe and Kobe was cool.
25, 30 wins tops.
November 8th, 2012 at 6:09 am
AM I THE ONLY 1 WHO THINKS T.JONES WILL PUT THE BALL ON THE GROUND AT THE WORST POSSABLE MOMENT..THEN,THERE R NO GOOD MOMENTS I GUESS..
November 8th, 2012 at 6:11 am
THERE IS NOTHING NEW IN THE WORLD HWNRDR.IT’S ALL REPACKAGED OR PAINTED !!!
November 8th, 2012 at 6:14 am
I hear ya, Dirt Lot…and Jones, I hope not, but he has fumbled when he touched it!
November 8th, 2012 at 6:24 am
I’d like to see Jeremy Stewart get a chance to play this week.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:08 am
hwnrdr Says: Good Morning Nation!!!
Anything new this morning? Haven’t looked at my phone yet…
Good Morning. Great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
November 8th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Its awful quite at the water cooler now that the bandwagon has emptied out.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:10 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
November 8th, 2012 at 7:11 am
This is funny.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PalmersFault&src=hash
November 8th, 2012 at 7:13 am
One of the best.
https://twitter.com/Raiderfan_559/status/266368510073139200/photo/1
Legend_Since_78 @Raiderfan_559
True Story: and this pretty much is #PalmersFault #RaiderNation
November 8th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Yeah I seen all the #ItsPalmersFault trending on twitter the other day…lol
November 8th, 2012 at 7:16 am
What happened to HayesDaze anyway. He was too upbeat for the afternoon and evening crowd, but he posted in the morning too, didn’t he?
November 8th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Just stumbled across it on Cork’s twitter last night.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 7:16 am
What happened to HayesDaze anyway. He was too upbeat for the afternoon and evening crowd, but he posted in the morning too, didn’t he?
Yeah he was a regular here in the morning…
November 8th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Some of the #ItsPalmersFault things were funny!
November 8th, 2012 at 7:22 am
LOL…I just looked on twitter…
There’s a pic of Routt and its says,
UNEMPLOYED! PALMER’S FAULT
November 8th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Especially Routt ‘This really might be Palmer’s fault’
November 8th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I’m finding it difficult to get excited for this game on Sunday. There was something about the way last sunday ended that just seemed…final.
Just when u think our d has turned the corner and elevated to “average” Doug freaking Martin comes along and destroys all that good vibe.
I’ll still be rooting the boys on as always but my enthusiasm has taken a severe hit, and when you’re out of it, all the remaining games seem like glorified preseason, practice games.
Go Raiders.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I posted that link.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Paul Gutierrez
ALAMEDA — Yes, Carson Palmer is on Twitter.
But no, the Raiders quarterback does not stay active on it, and thus, he was not aware Wednesday of the hashtag that was gaining traction in supporting him against the wave of criticism that’s been cresting since Sunday’s 42-32 loss to Tampa Bay.
#PalmersFault was being used in a sarcastic sense, a back-handed slap to critics who blamed Palmer for the defeat because of his three interceptions, mostly the second pick that came with the Raiders trailing by three points and at their own 38-yard line. Because really, without Palmer, who passed for 414 yards and four TDs, the Raiders would not have been in any position to even mount a comeback after being down by 18 points in the fourth quarter. And, of course, the Raiders defense did give up 278 yards rushing to the Buccaneers, 515 yards overall.
“You can keep blaming me,” he told CSNCalifornia.com with a smile. “I’m a big boy.
“It’s funny…to an extent,” he said with a laugh. “Nah, I understand it.”
November 8th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I posted that link.
LOL…that was a dam good one!
November 8th, 2012 at 7:30 am
You know, our last three QB’s have been class acts. Grads, JC and Palmer. Palmer is the way better QB though. Not his fault.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:31 am
That is true!
November 8th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Posted that stuff and more around 9:00 last night but the PM crew were way too involved in their disagreements to take any time out too laugh at something.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:36 am
That is nothing unusual! I swear some of these people sould have been lawyers, or politicians! LOL
November 8th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I can’t recall who said it last night, but it was stated that the team who makes the least mistakes in the nfl wins the games today.
I believe that. I said it before the Buc game.
IF Raiders do not drop passes or blow coverage…in other words IF they do what they are “supposed” to do, they can beat Baltimore or anyone else.
Don’t drop passes, don’t screw up what u know to do, and we will win.
And I add the obligatory…..PERIOD.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Is that first round pick(s) that the Lakers sent for Nash lottery-protected????
LMAO!!!!!
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Not quite time to panic for Lake Show, but its amusing how many pre-season “were taking it all the way” comments were all over this board after the Nash and Howard deal.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:42 am
RaiderSam Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Is that first round pick(s) that the Lakers sent for Nash lottery-protected????
LMAO!!!!!
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Not quite time to panic for Lake Show, but its amusing how many pre-season “were taking it all the way” comments were all over this board after the Nash and Howard deal.
yes, but that was also before Brown installed the Princeton offense which LA does NOT have the players for!
November 8th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Don’t forget Miami started 9-9 when their little “dream team” first got together.
I’m a Bulls fan so this isn’t a “homer” statement.
Lakers will be fine…unfortunately.
November 8th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Hey Bulls are doing good this year…and what happened to Rose? Not healed yet, or did he get hurt again?
November 8th, 2012 at 7:51 am
#It’sallKrappsFault…for real.
GO RAIDERS!
November 8th, 2012 at 7:59 am
The Lakers are turning the ball over at a historic rate. They can’t even make a post entry pass without the ball being tipped away. And even when they do get it inside, Howard is 10 feet away from the basket. It really is unreal to watch.
And then you have Mr. Blake, who will be sitting there wide open after the ball has been rotated and his man has left to flash at the post, and when he gets the ball instead of shooting the wide open shot he hesitates, and then tosses the ball to the wing late in the shot clock where someone like Metta or Ebanks has to take a wild shot…..unreal.
And Kobe is acting like a disinterested biooootch.
Mike Brown is fking clueless. His rotation last night was a joke…..let 4 scrubs finish the 3rd and then play deep into the 4th….they were down by 11 and the game was over by the time Mike Brown stopped mouth breathing and got his starters back in.
Dwight Howard does not box out….nor does Gasol…..I think the Jazz either got the offensive rebound, or tipped the ball after a shot which resulted in another possession on their first three shots last night.
It is just amazingly bad.
Coach Brown will not make it much longer.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Nash probably wont be as much as a factor. wrong personel and system. however, kobe, pau and dwight should be enough, it just will take time to gel. i’m just happy my knicks finally have a coach that makes them play d…
November 8th, 2012 at 8:23 am
The only thing Carson Palmer need to worry about in Baltimore is Ed Reed. If he throw a floater anywhere in his direction he is going to take it the other way. I will be at that game in Baltimore on Sunday and hopefully the Raiders come too!!
November 8th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Lowbeam = getting old, cannot carry the team all year
Howard the duck = I question his desire, Hollywood is the wrong place for a soft, double minded man.
Nash = too dam old
Gasol = Cannot bring his A game, or his B game every night
Brown = Proved he can coach in the NBA at Cleveland. Does he wear expensive suits?
Jim B = Mark Davis with a nice haircut and a BIG ego
November 8th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Go Cavs!
Go Clippers!
Damn the Fakers (sorry Hwnrdr)!
Good Morning Nation & Green Party.
Long Live The ODB.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Cheap suit theory?
I though it only worked for GMs.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Btw, we can’t blame last week on Knapp. We scored 30+ points and we were in it late in the 4th, but you can’t win when you allow 250+ rushing yards.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:32 am
What’s up, O? LOL…
November 8th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Looks like Paul G is sick of reading Mistics anti-palmer drivel too… he started the #PalmersFault hashtag on twitter. Its kinda funny to read them all.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Offseason needs:
1- DE
2- CB
3- OL
4- NT
November 8th, 2012 at 8:34 am
447.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Btw, we can’t blame last week on Knapp. We scored 30+ points and we were in it late in the 4th, but you can’t win when you allow 250+ rushing yards.
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YUP….Coulda scored more too if we didn’t have all the drops and holding calls taking points off the board and killing drives. STILL coulda won with that horrible D display. Not gonna blame Carson for that one.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:34 am
bcz24 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Looks like Paul G is sick of reading Mistics anti-palmer drivel too… he started the #PalmersFault hashtag on twitter. Its kinda funny to read them all.
It was…I was cracking up the other day!
November 8th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Offseason needs:
1- DE
2- CB
3- OL
4- NT
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Also gonna need a good RB. If we’re gonna continue with this ZONE, I’d love to get Barner from Oregon but, he’ll be gone before we fill our defensive needs.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:35 am
“bcz24 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Looks like Paul G is sick of reading Mistics anti-palmer drivel too… he started the #PalmersFault hashtag on twitter. Its kinda funny to read them all.”
Link please
November 8th, 2012 at 8:37 am
“Looks like Paul G is sick of reading Mistics anti-palmer drivel too…”
Its been 2 seasons for me I had to deal with all the JC worshipers in here last year and Mistic1 was the pack leader.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Hwnrdr,
Not much bro. Trying to stay busy.
I don’t like to bother you, but my Faker hate is too strong and can’t be controlled.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:38 am
good day Mr V.P. !!
had tickets to the game this week and had to give them back. have to go to a funeral in Ohio.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I had to build a Palmer shrine last year complete with clippings from the blog with pins and needles stuck in them….ok I made that up but you get the point I am a Palmer worshiper here everyone knows it.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Hwnrdr,
Not much bro. Trying to stay busy.
I don’t like to bother you, but my Faker hate is too strong and can’t be controlled.
No worries…
And you know that…
November 8th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I can’t link it 666, cant get on Twitter at work.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Hey O whats up
I should not have said anything about Iran or Israel yesterday I am ignorant to the ME but was trying to be a sarcastic smart ass about it when I pizzed off raiderman99
Anyways no more ME talk for me.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiderman99 seems like a smart guy.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:47 am
“I can’t link it 666, cant get on Twitter at work.”
Thanks I am not a twitter member so I cant navigate my way around that site.
maybe one of these guys can link it for me?
November 8th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Palmer is one of the FEW bright spots on this team.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:50 am
“Raiderman99 seems like a smart guy.”
Yeah he is he has a pretty good grip on whats going on in that part of the world no more Ahmadinejad jokes for me here on the blog.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:50 am
464.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Palmer is one of the FEW bright spots on this team.
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I hope he stays for awhile. All this talk about drafting a QB with our 1st pick is rediculous to me.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:50 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Go-ahead-use-PalmersFault-to-explain-Rai?blockID=799017&feedID=2801
Here ya go 666
November 8th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Two HUGE If’s:
IF Taiwan can hold on to the ball and IF he can stay healthy having him and Reece in the backfield can be very potent.
Blessing in disguise?
Also two critical changes, Smith being replaced and Bartell back
November 8th, 2012 at 8:53 am
666,
I thought you made a good point about us not being so involved, but I think 99 thought you were serious about allowing Iran to nuke Israel.
No worries bro, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:50 am
464.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Palmer is one of the FEW bright spots on this team.
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I hope he stays for awhile. All this talk about drafting a QB with our 1st pick is rediculous to me.
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I agree. I also like to know what TP is capable of in a real game.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Ravens haven’t lost at home since December 2010… no doubt this will be a tough out and a HUGE win if we pull it off.
November 8th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider O Says: Btw, we can’t blame last week on Knapp. We scored 30+ points and we were in it late in the 4th, but you can’t win when you allow 250+ rushing yards.===========================
Actually, we could have. Speaks volumes about Palmer’s heart and ability, and alas, occasional brain fade. He did have someone in his face but you gotta take the sack at times.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:00 am
470.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:50 am
464.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Palmer is one of the FEW bright spots on this team.
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I hope he stays for awhile. All this talk about drafting a QB with our 1st pick is rediculous to me.
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I agree. I also like to know what TP is capable of in a real game.
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Same here, Could be a whole different story running with the 1’s rather than the 3’s
November 8th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Palmer has two, maybe three more decent years left. I think he will fade earlier than some because he doesn’t seem to have the accuracy it takes to succeed as an older QB in the NFL. Once that arm strength is gone it will get ugly.
So do we need a QB plan now? I don’t think so. I think Reggie can use the 2013 draft to fill some of the holes on defense, and on the o-line or WR….those needs are more pressing at this time.
DHB has clearly regressed, and Ford is unreliable, so we have to get Palmer some help at the WR spot, wither through the draft or in FA.
TE….Myers does a decent job, but he is no danger to make a play after the catch and he isn’t much of a threat in the red zone. But I think you fix WR first.
We need to use what is left of the year to find out if Bergstrom is a guy that can replace the bums at RT. Otherwise RT is a must fix position this offseason.
On Defense….we just need to start over with as much as we can. Doesn’t really matter who you replace first. I guess I would rather see us get a DE and some decent CBs and Safeties….but that is difficult to do in one offseason….plus we need to replace Curry and Slowlando….it pains me to say this, but I think you have to roll with Seymour and Kelly for another season….too much to fix, not enough assets to do it in one offseason.
Back to QB, so I think we should/can hold out to the 2014 draft to pick our future QB. In the meantime, i am sure at some point this year, or through next year, Pryor will get a chance through injuries to get some time on the field so that we can see what we have in him. My hope is that he lights it up for 1 game and then Reggie can get some foolish GM to trade a couple of decent picks for him. I am pretty sure that Reggie and DA have seen enough of the kid to know he has little chance of success…..hence his continued azz glued to the bench status this year.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Thanks for the link that is some funny shlt
One of my favorites:
“”I got pulled over for speeding. Told the cop it was #PalmersFault” -”
November 8th, 2012 at 9:05 am
How long did Hasselbeck sit behind Farve? I don’t remember. If TP is worth what we HOPE and THINK he is, and the Org agrees, he’s best right where he is. Palmer would be a fantastic Preceptor to young Terrell.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I hope the Raiders can pull off a WIN here! Gonna be a tough game for sure. What do you guy’s think about the Bears vs Texans game? I have a bet on that game, I think the Bears offense doesn’t match Texans offensive.
Go Raiders!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
What up Green Party?!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:09 am
99 is a smart guy. We don’t agree on some things (lol), but I respect him and his opinions.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:09 am
inonewordraider Says: IF Taiwan can hold on to the ball and IF he can stay healthy having him and Reece in the backfield can be very potent. ==================================================
Didn’t agree with many who thought he was too light at 195-200 lb.s not to get hurt as RB, but somebody pointed out last night that he might be a liability in pass protection. Hadn’t thought about that.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:09 am
DHB has clearly regressed, and Ford is unreliable, so we have to get Palmer some help at the WR spot, wither through the draft or in FA.
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Streater is still really raw, but has a huge upside and potential high ceiling,
Criner hasn’t gotten much of a sniff this year, but hopefully that 2pt conversion will give him AND the staff confidence enough to get him on the field more. Still think Criner has #1 receiver potential. He’s gotta get his shots and take advantage.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dick Morris says the Texans will win in a landslide….so I would go with Da Bears.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:11 am
What’s up DMAC……I mean “F” you guys….
lol, Jk man.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:11 am
We Salute you Mr. Prez.
Vote Green in 2016!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dick Morris says the Texans will win in a landslide….so I would go with Da Bears.
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LOL
November 8th, 2012 at 9:13 am
481.theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:09 am
DHB has clearly regressed, and Ford is unreliable, so we have to get Palmer some help at the WR spot, wither through the draft or in FA.
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Streater is still really raw, but has a huge upside and potential high ceiling,
Criner hasn’t gotten much of a sniff this year, but hopefully that 2pt conversion will give him AND the staff confidence enough to get him on the field more. Still think Criner has #1 receiver potential. He’s gotta get his shots and take advantage.
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we can’t continue to keep throwing out young scrubs and hoping one of them becomes a true #1 WR. We need to either go get a proven #1, or use a high pick to secure that #1 WR…..too bad we also need to use high picks on DEs, LBers, S, CB, and RT……might have to go get a veteran #1 WR.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:13 am
“I first noticed something was up at halftime,” Bryant said. “The first series on defense in the second half was the last time I played.”
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And then…..
D!ck Seymour and company let Martin skate all over us!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Can’t wait for that last place Faker beat down on Friday!
Go Dubs!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:16 am
we can’t continue to keep throwing out young scrubs and hoping one of them becomes a true #1 WR. We need to either go get a proven #1, or use a high pick to secure that #1 WR…..too bad we also need to use high picks on DEs, LBers, S, CB, and RT……might have to go get a veteran #1 WR.
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That’s the only thing there, we’ll prolly have to use our top end picks on Defense. As far as proven vets, you never know who’s gonna be out there by seasons end, and who’s gonna be washed up? Maybe wunna these young guys will show us something before the season is over.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:17 am
DHB has clearly regressed, and Ford is unreliable, so we have to get Palmer some help at the WR spot, wither through the draft or in FA.
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Regressed or not getting as many passes as last year?
He is averaging 2+ catches / game this year, and he averaged 4+ last year.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:19 am
No more WR’s drafted!
Most take 2 long to develop.
Rather go w/ a proven #1 in FA, than taking my chances in the draft.
We need to draft Defense!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:19 am
might have to go get a veteran #1 WR.
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Dwayne Bowe is a FA after the season, I doubt if he is retained, would be great match up with Palmer.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:19 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Can’t wait for that last place Faker beat down on Friday!
Go Dubs!
The way they are playing, maybe…but keep calling them Fakers…lol
November 8th, 2012 at 9:21 am
How has DHB regressed?
Haven’t you seen him make those tough catches down field?
He’s making catches w/ PI’s being called.
Kid couldn’t even turn his head around to see where the ball was, a few years ago.
DHB has improved.
2 bad he isn’t targeted more often.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:23 am
bcz24 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:19 am
might have to go get a veteran #1 WR.
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Dwayne Bowe is a FA after the season, I doubt if he is retained, would be great match up with Palmer.
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What do u think it would take??
2nd or 3rd rounder?
November 8th, 2012 at 9:23 am
490.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:17 am
DHB has clearly regressed, and Ford is unreliable, so we have to get Palmer some help at the WR spot, wither through the draft or in FA.
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Regressed or not getting as many passes as last year?
He is averaging 2+ catches / game this year, and he averaged 4+ last year.
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If the guy could get open, he would be getting the ball. I think what, 4 years now, is probably enough time to show that the guy is not a #1 WR. I would keep him on the roster with a major pay cut, but we can’t keep throwing him out there hoping he can be a #1 WR. Is ceiling is right about average…..we need a playmaker.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:09 am
inonewordraider Says: IF Taiwan can hold on to the ball and IF he can stay healthy having him and Reece in the backfield can be very potent. ==================================================
Didn’t agree with many who thought he was too light at 195-200 lb.s not to get hurt as RB, but somebody pointed out last night that he might be a liability in pass protection. Hadn’t thought about that.
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Iam pullin for Made in “Taiwan” as much as the next guy but did anyone else see him just get waylaid the 2nd time he touched the ball. I mean he got freakin DE-CLEATED.
We can win this game, just like we coulda beat Atl. T.B. but it could get ugly fast. No different than the last 25yrs I Guess.
I Love My Raiders!!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Your right Raider O…hahaha thanks man
November 8th, 2012 at 9:24 am
the reason cam newton and mike vick are struggling #Palmersfault
couldn’t resist
November 8th, 2012 at 9:24 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:19 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Can’t wait for that last place Faker beat down on Friday!
Go Dubs!
The way they are playing, maybe…but keep calling them Fakers…lol
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How about Takers?
Since they’re taking beat downs every night!
lol
Just fk’n w/ ya Hwnrdr.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:25 am
If the guy could get open, he would be getting the ball. I think what, 4 years now, is probably enough time to show that the guy is not a #1 WR. I would keep him on the roster with a major pay cut, but we can’t keep throwing him out there hoping he can be a #1 WR. Is ceiling is right about average…..we need a playmaker
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i think he’s a #3 next year, behind Bowe and Moore!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Stanford Routt just tweeted it’s CP3’s fault he’s outta of a job.
lol
November 8th, 2012 at 9:26 am
meant Dakota
November 8th, 2012 at 9:27 am
LOL, DMAC
Yeah they are…Dakota (I think) said it best when he said that Buss is destroying the org!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:27 am
My kid went to the Fakers game in SLC last night. I feel bad he spent all that dough to watch a below average team.E. Solutions is a great place to see a game though.
No, he did not take his 3 wives and a Mitt Romney sucks sign either!! LOL
November 8th, 2012 at 9:28 am
505
So did he bring 5 wives instead?
lol
November 8th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Dakota Says: In the meantime, i am sure at some point this year, or through next year, Pryor will get a chance through injuries to get some time on the field so that we can see what we have in him.============================================================
Kept hoping we’d see him in mop up duty but that doesn’t appear to be in the cards for this years Raiders. Palmer’s heroics make it foolish to pull him with anything less than a 4 TD deficit and 7 minutes remaining. Like Denver. That was bad coaching by DA or Knapp trying to get Palmer hurt so Lionheart could run his ZBS.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:30 am
We aint Mo’s so no he did not.
It is a sad day in Utah for 90% of the inhabitants though!!
Not us LoL!!
Gary Johnson rules.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Hey, Mitt is not out of this race yet…..I heard he might just buy the United States and name himself President.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:30 am
SFGate has a comparison between this year and last (through eight games):
2011 2012
Win-loss 4-4 3-5
Points per game 23 21.4
Yards rush avg. 151.9 77.3
Yards pass avg. 220 281.3
Points allowed 27 28.6
Yards rush avg. 139.6 124.1
Yards pass avg. 246.9 245.3
Sacks 18 11
Penalties 84 51
Penalty yards 730 411
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-coach-calm-despite-mistakes-4018437.php#ixzz2BeYi1Jfk
November 8th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Jones got stuck on that run because “blind” Willie Smith was too slow getting out to block the LB, who had a 5 yard run unimpeded to meet Taiwan.
Poor play design or poor execution, either way Kid got rocked, just like Carson did all freakin’ game…Willie got cut from Washington for a reason, and we are all learning why 1 game ate time…
November 8th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Word on the streets is….
Dakota and Beech have court side tix for Fridays game next to Jack Nicholson and Arsenio Hall.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:33 am
With better formatting:
—————-2011—-2012
Win-loss……..4-4…..3-5
Points per game.23……21.4
Yards rush avg..151.9…77.3
Yards pass avg..220…..281.3
Points allowed..27……28.6
Yards rush avg..139.6…124.1
Yards pass avg..246.9…245.3
Sacks………..18……11
Penalties…….84……51
Penalty yards…730…..411
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-coach-calm-despite-mistakes-4018437.php#ixzz2BeYi1Jfk
November 8th, 2012 at 9:33 am
That Mother Fvcker is gonna end somones career. Maybe we are done with Willie Boy for now!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says: Reggie needs to send some scouts out to watch this 9 year old girl who plays RB. The girl’s nickname is “Sweet Feet”, and she has more moves than DMac. She breaks more tackles too.============================================
Wave of the future. Super athletic munchkinettes.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:23 am
490.Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:17 am
DHB has clearly regressed, and Ford is unreliable, so we have to get Palmer some help at the WR spot, wither through the draft or in FA.
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Regressed or not getting as many passes as last year?
He is averaging 2+ catches / game this year, and he averaged 4+ last year.
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If the guy could get open, he would be getting the ball. I think what, 4 years now, is probably enough time to show that the guy is not a #1 WR. I would keep him on the roster with a major pay cut, but we can’t keep throwing him out there hoping he can be a #1 WR. Is ceiling is right about average…..we need a playmaker.
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You are right, he is not a #1 WR, but he is a solid #2 IMO. I was hoping Moore can be our #1 WR, but he keeps getting injured which effects his development and makes it difficult to depend on him.
I think this offense/ Knapp is failing to optimize production from the talent on our roster most if the games.
DMAC
DHB
Reece (I know is has averaging as many yards/ game receiving, but I was hoping to see more carries and more production this year)
November 8th, 2012 at 9:40 am
jesusraiderjim Says: That Mother Fvcker is gonna end somones career. Maybe we are done with Willie Boy for now!==========
On that Palmer TD that was called back, not only was the penalty on Smith for holding, but he couldn’t even maintain the hold and his guy was draped on Palmer when he threw the ball. I don’t care how rusty Barnes is, if he can walk put him out there.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:40 am
whats up there Mr. Prez nad Mr. V.P. ???
Vote Green in 2016 !!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I heard Barksdale been starting in St Loui
November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
What up ODB!
Represent us well this Sunday, Brotheeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I rather take my chances w/ the rook, than roll w/ Smith for another game.
Time to shine Bergs! Good luck
November 8th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I think Mike said he couldn’t go now…has to be in Ohio, i think!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:45 am
I’d be working DHB overtime on shorter routes getting separation and catching in stride. Dam strong runner after the catch if he can get those first few steps. We’ve always got the fly route in our back pocket.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:47 am
This is good stuff. Would be nice if our Coach had any sort of sack whatsoever…How many times have we kicked a F.G from the 25 yard line this year? Or Punted when we should have kicked a FG or went for it..
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201211/how-oregon-coach-chip-kelly-can-spark-moneyball-revolution-nfl
November 8th, 2012 at 9:47 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I think Mike said he couldn’t go now…has to be in Ohio, i think!
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Damn, that sucks.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:47 am
RaiderO,
Reece should have been our backup RB to McFadden this entire season. He is not a very good blocker, either as a FB or in pass protection, but he makes the most out of his limited carries.
I hope Jones can play….hasn’t shown much of anything in a real football game yet.
Line Reece up behind Schmitt and let them blast away.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Line Reece up behind Schmitt and let them blast away.
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I’ve been saying the same thing.
Why the hell do you sign a meat head FB in Schmitt, if your not going to use him?
Dude is a solid blocker and should be in there to help the run.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:51 am
During Wednesday’s game Kobe Bryant was visibly frustrated, at one point staring down coach Mike Brown when he was taken out of the game in the 4th quarter.
This is the first time in Kobe’s Lakers career that he’s fallen to 1-4 and his ailing injury is obviously doing him no favors. While Brown has said he intends to monitor Kobe’s minutes, he may think twice before leaving the star out of the last minutes of crunch time.
Source: ESPN
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Get you popcorn ready fellas.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:51 am
521.DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I rather take my chances w/ the rook, than roll w/ Smith for another game.
Time to shine Bergs! Good luck
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YUP, I think Bergs is chomping at the bit too. Curry said he’s gonna take peoples heads off when he gets back on the field…. I think Bergs is gonna be wearing his “IHOP” apron, and lookin to stack some pancakes.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:51 am
WOW!!!!!! THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
Dont tell me these media guys dont read this blog. Beaware of media and their clever tricknology. Check out what jerry mac said in his column this moring. I find it interesting that the article starts with extolling the virtues of palmer and even projects him to break raider stat record. Then the article takes a bizarre turn, when the subject of palmer and pryor comes up.
“The Falcons’ Asante Samuel had a 79-yard interception return in the fourth quarter when the Raiders were poised to take the lead, although they later came back and tied the game anyway.
Against the Bucs, Palmer had the Raiders within 35-32 after trailing 28-10 and 35-17, but threw an interception to Ahmad Black that appeared to be headed toward Denarius Moore.
Coach Dennis Allen found himself defending Palmer at his Monday news conference, and some of the more radical elements of the Raider fan base would like to see No. 3 quarterback Terrelle Pryor, inactive for the first eight weeks.”-
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF “MORE RADICAL MEMBERS OF THE FAN BASE”?
This is why the media is suspect, and you must always be vigilant in your deconstruction of the writings from these devilishly clever word smiths.
So any one that says tp6 should play at the end of the year when out of the playoffs is a “radical” according to pryor.
this is what i would call propaganda, and notice how it is anchored to the very part of the article which attempts to document palmers recent struggles. we all under stand that the yards are nice, but he fails to contrast the yardge numbers with the win loss record or the turnovers.
This article is written simply to sell carson and dispell any potential upswell in enthusiasm for the young phenom.
people here in the town are tired of the losses, and have lost patience with palmer. everyone is saying “when do we see tp 6″? this is a clear attempt to extinguish the background noise, like a well trained agent running a psy -op.
I wonder how he will approach this in the final 3 games of the season when we are out of contention. Honestly i will be shocked if we are still mathematically alive after the BUNGLES BOWL. If we are still in it at that time this article may be considered to have merit.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:51 am
ODB!!!
Bonging & Posting (BP). What’s up with you?
We need a Green Party Convention. 4/20 is a good day, and I think it should be in Cali (maybe SD lol I hate flying). We should be allowed to travel with our trees and Bongs.
Vote Green in 2016!
We will end hunger.
We will prvide the states with taxes and revenue and lower their spending by legalizing it.
We will end the current subsidies to farmers. They can grow weed and make more money.
November 8th, 2012 at 9:54 am
If Jones comes in and fumbles a couple of times…..can I start calling him “Mthrfker Jones”?
November 8th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Hwnrdr Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I think Mike said he couldn’t go now…has to be in Ohio, i think!
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Go Buckeyes!
Damn you Mich!
November 8th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Dakota,
Knapp lacks creativity and his offense is vanilla. DMAC, Reece, DHB, and TP can contribute more to this offense, if they were used better.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Myers?! Really Knapp?
Use DHB who can get YAC.
Use Reece.
I think Knapp is from Mich lol.
Damn you Mich!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I wonder how he will approach this in the final 3 games of the season when we are out of contention. Honestly i will be shocked if we are still mathematically alive after the BUNGLES BOWL. If we are still in it at that time this article may be considered to have merit.
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If we are honestly and truely out of the hunt with 3 games left to play, I don’t see any reason NOT to play Pryor. I believe Carson -at this point in time- gives us the best chance to win on a week to week basis, and if we’re OUT of the playoffs, then he doesn’t need to be in there getting pounded for no reason. It would be an excellent opportunity for Pryor to get some 1st string bullets coming at him. he’s an unknown commodity, and we can’t MOVE ON from him until we know what WE GOT in him…..
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Any of you guys see this yet? Wonder if she can run the ZBS in about 15 years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs8X1RzQ1Gw&feature=g-all-xit
November 8th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:54 am
If Jones comes in and fumbles a couple of times…..can I start calling him “Mthrfker Jones”?
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HaHa! Nice Horrible Bosses Reference!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Maybe we could draft some chicks to play defense? If we get them to cycle together we should have at least one good game a month on D.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I am very reluctant to use the term ‘meltdown’. Very, very reluctant. Nay, I am loathe to say someone had a meltdown. But Mistic just had a meltdown!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:10 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I wonder how he will approach this in the final 3 games of the season when we are out of contention. Honestly i will be shocked if we are still mathematically alive after the BUNGLES BOWL. If we are still in it at that time this article may be considered to have merit.
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If we are honestly and truely out of the hunt with 3 games left to play, I don’t see any reason NOT to play Pryor. I believe Carson -at this point in time- gives us the best chance to win on a week to week basis, and if we’re OUT of the playoffs, then he doesn’t need to be in there getting pounded for no reason. It would be an excellent opportunity for Pryor to get some 1st string bullets coming at him. he’s an unknown commodity, and we can’t MOVE ON from him until we know what WE GOT in him…..
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agreed 100%
November 8th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I am very reluctant to use the term ‘meltdown’. Very, very reluctant. Nay, I am loathe to say someone had a meltdown. But Mistic just had a meltdown!
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???
just pointing out a long known media tactic called propaganda, and how it is employed by the local writters
November 8th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Are you in the media Meltdowm: I mean Mistic, you are quite a word-smith yourself!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
MikieG Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Any of you guys see this yet? Wonder if she can run the ZBS in about 15 years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs8X1RzQ1Gw&feature=g-all-xit
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That girl is awesome. I’m pretty sure she could get more yards per carry than DMac right now.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Agrred Ghost, but I would activate him at least now…get him in there in some packages…even if he never gets the ball in his hands, wouldn’t that make the DC have to account for him?
November 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
That little girl can pound the rock. Fun to watch.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
What up ODB!
Represent us well this Sunday, Brotheeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!
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had to give my tickets back…
have to go to a funeral in Ohio.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF “MORE RADICAL MEMBERS OF THE FAN BASE”?
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Mistic, that means you dumb ass.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Palmer has two, maybe three more decent years left. I think he will fade earlier than some because he doesn’t seem to have the accuracy it takes to succeed as an older QB in the NFL. Once that arm strength is gone it will get ugly.
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Huh? Barring injury Palmer should have 5-6 good years left easily. Maybe his accuracy does not come across the TV but watching him live he is ridiculously accurate. If Manning can maintain his basic arm strength with multiple pieces of his neck missing, I don’t worry about Carson. Right now, Carson statistically is very close to Drew Brees. If I had said before the season started Palmer would have a Brees type year I am sure everyone would have taken it.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Shots fired!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Raiders were outscored in the third quarter Sunday 21-0 – the Raiders have now been outscored 88-24 in the third quarter this season
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Is this on DA?
I know there were many missed tackles on Sunday, but we seem to come out flat in the second half of our games, especially the 3rd Q.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF “MORE RADICAL MEMBERS OF THE FAN BASE”?
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Mistic, that means you dumb ass.
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LOL
November 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Captain Queeg: Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers…
November 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Mistic1,
I felt the same way when the media seemed to be protecting Tom Cable….not that I agree with your Palmer takes….I just feel your frustration.
I knew after about 2 games that Cable was not the answer….it took the blog about a year and a half to catch up with me, and Jerry’s writing seemed to try to support the guy.
WIFE BEATING BUFFOON!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am
“Inonewordraider Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:24 am
the reason cam newton and mike vick are struggling #Palmersfault
couldn’t resist”
LMFAO good one
November 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
What up ODB!
Represent us well this Sunday, Brotheeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!
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had to give my tickets back…
have to go to a funeral in Ohio.
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Wasn’t meant to be ODB!
Maybe the Green Party is destined to hook up in Balt someday.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am
LOL, didn’t it turn out to be Randy Hanson? Maybe he beat them and thought it was Cable…ok, just kidding!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am
549.Seymour Bush Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Palmer has two, maybe three more decent years left. I think he will fade earlier than some because he doesn’t seem to have the accuracy it takes to succeed as an older QB in the NFL. Once that arm strength is gone it will get ugly.
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Huh? Barring injury Palmer should have 5-6 good years left easily. Maybe his accuracy does not come across the TV but watching him live he is ridiculously accurate. If Manning can maintain his basic arm strength with multiple pieces of his neck missing, I don’t worry about Carson. Right now, Carson statistically is very close to Drew Brees. If I had said before the season started Palmer would have a Brees type year I am sure everyone would have taken it.
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I am willing to bet that Palmer will not be in the NFL when he is 38-39 years old….$100?
November 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am
This article is written simply to sell carson and dispell any potential upswell in enthusiasm for the young phenom.
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LMAO, ‘young phenom’! Seriously? He played one good half against Detroit scrubs. You are something else.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
What up ODB!
Represent us well this Sunday, Brotheeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!
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had to give my tickets back…
have to go to a funeral in Ohio.
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Wasn’t meant to be ODB!
Maybe the Green Party is destined to hook up in Balt someday.
One day! I am still upset that I had to cancel this trip…but yeah it looks like it wasn’t meant to be! Wouldn’t be right if I went to Baltimore and did NOT meat the ODB!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Are you in the media Meltdowm: I mean Mistic, you are quite a word-smith yourself!
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no im not, however i have spent years studying psy-ops and counter intelligence and the way the apparatus works in here.
In fact every Oakland native should know about cointelpro and how these tactics were/ are used to destroy discredit and create the atmosphere for assassination, as oakland was one of the major testing/proving grounds for these programs.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
MikieG Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Any of you guys see this yet? Wonder if she can run the ZBS in about 15 years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs8X1RzQ1Gw&feature=g-all-xit
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This is HILARIOUS. You know what the difference between her and Darren McFadden it? She doesn’t go down on first contact.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
What do u think it would take??
2nd or 3rd rounder?
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For Bowe? He will be a free agent. No picks required, he isn’t going to resign with KC, unless the franchise him again at 120% of this years salary, which I doubt will happen.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Mistic1’s view on the NFL is warped and distorted it didn’t take two articles written by local sports writers for me to figure that out.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:22 am
MikieG Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Any of you guys see this yet? Wonder if she can run the ZBS in about 15 years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs8X1RzQ1Gw&feature=g-all-xit
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LOL
Amazing!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I am willing to bet that Palmer will not be in the NFL when he is 38-39 years old….$100?
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My statement was “barring injury”. Betting against injuries in the modern NFL especially behind our Oline would not be smart.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Mistic peed on his balls this morning… #PalmersFault
November 8th, 2012 at 10:25 am
566.Seymour Bush Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I am willing to bet that Palmer will not be in the NFL when he is 38-39 years old….$100?
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My statement was “barring injury”. Betting against injuries in the modern NFL especially behind our Oline would not be smart.
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Take the injury factor out….if he isn’t playing due to a career ending injury, then you are off the hook.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Mistic1,
I felt the same way when the media seemed to be protecting Tom Cable….not that I agree with your Palmer takes….I just feel your frustration.
I knew after about 2 games that Cable was not the answer….it took the blog about a year and a half to catch up with me, and Jerry’s writing seemed to try to support the guy.
WIFE BEATING BUFFOON!
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honestly you cant blame the media for this. The oakland tribune and its writers are there to sell papers. people want to read the raiders. so if the media were truly honest and neutral then in fact the negative facts may turn off readers and hurt sales.
this also is a tactic to help keep the gates moving at the coliseum, so it must be packaged in a way that gives a reason to buy tickets.
raiders look good, the paper looks good and vice versa, an unwritten partnership. one of the many that people are subject to in any form of corporate industry, like doctors and big pharma for instance.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:26 am
http://www.raynardjackson.com/index_files/images/Redskin_Jason_Campbell.jpg
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Mistic is that you and Campbell partying at the Hilton?
November 8th, 2012 at 10:27 am
bcz24 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
What do u think it would take??
2nd or 3rd rounder?
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For Bowe? He will be a free agent. No picks required, he isn’t going to resign with KC, unless the franchise him again at 120% of this years salary, which I doubt will happen.
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Forgot he’s a FA.
Sign em’
November 8th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am
This article is written simply to sell carson and dispell any potential upswell in enthusiasm for the young phenom.
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LMAO, ‘young phenom’! Seriously? He played one good half against Detroit scrubs. You are something else.
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its well documented that pryor was considered a phenom in college.
Phenom being short for phenomenal applies to pryor at this very moment as he is still a phenomenal athlete. we will see how good of a qb he on day
November 8th, 2012 at 10:27 am
545.hwnrdr Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Agrred Ghost, but I would activate him at least now…get him in there in some packages…even if he never gets the ball in his hands, wouldn’t that make the DC have to account for him?
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Absolutely, it would. And I been scratchin my head since game 1. Everytime we get a shot of the sideline, and I see Pryor in street clothes – chewin on sunflower seeds- I throw my arms up and go “WTF are yall doin?” I mean, SH*T he actually got on the field last year. Then again, alot things this staff is doing this year got me SMH…
But yeah, I’d been having Pryor dress long time ago and get in there for a minimum of 1 series. Get him a bubble screen…SOMETHIN ! ! !
November 8th, 2012 at 10:29 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
What up ODB!
Represent us well this Sunday, Brotheeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!
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had to give my tickets back…
have to go to a funeral in Ohio.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I’m sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and your family.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF “MORE RADICAL MEMBERS OF THE FAN BASE”?
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Mistic, that means you dumb ass.
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that was part of my point moron, jerry mac reads the blog then labels anyone that supports pryor a “radical”.
this is propaganda at its zenith, associating the name of pryor with radicalism. while at the same time dismissing the fans that want to see pryor succeed as undesirable or unhinged.
jerry mac, and corky agents of deception
November 8th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Bowe has issues, but he would certainly be a MAJOR upgrade over DHB.
2010-2012:
DHB
109 Rec 1630 yards 7 TDs
Bowe
198 Rec 2982 yards 23 TDs
Bowe has issues with drops and attitude….but as long as he produces like that, Reggie should be able to live with it lol.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Mistic1’s view on the NFL is warped and distorted it didn’t take two articles written by local sports writers for me to figure that out.
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my view??
you have no clue on how i view it
November 8th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Carson needs a WR he can count on in the red zone….DHB ain’t that. Moore….too short, but sometimes gets the job done. Myers and other TEs….not good enough.
It is also Knapp’s fault lol.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Who’s to blame for our 3rd Q ass whoopins?
DA?
Or our under talented Defense?
Or both?
November 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Who’s to blame for our 3rd Q ass whoopins?
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Turd Monkeys!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Who got a chance to see the film?
Who were the LB’s on the long runs?
Burris/Wheeler? Or was McJogger in there?
November 8th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Carson needs a WR he can count on in the red zone….DHB ain’t that. Moore….too short, but sometimes gets the job done. Myers and other TEs….not good enough.
It is also Knapp’s fault lol.
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It is Knapps fault. Look how Criner went up in a crowd to come down with that 2pt conversion. Seems like he’s been in Knapps schithouse too.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:45 am
jerry mac, and cork with their feverish efforts to sell palmer to the fan base are almost like a coke a cola commercial. they have absolutely blugeoned us with this campaign. lets revisit some of the word association with regards to palmer found in the oakland tribune & used by these to agents since the arrival of palmer.
“elite” “instant upgrade” “dynamic duo” (palmer and dmac togeher), “vailidating the trade” “raider yardage record” “projected td totals” “adept at bring the raiders back”
There is a clear agenda and slant in play with our local writers. Im thinking back but i dont remember this kind of coverage for a qb since kerry collins got here and started off hot.
repetition is the single most effective tool used for brain wash
November 8th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Lol at Knapp wanting to become a head coach.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:48 am
It is Knapps fault. Look how Criner went up in a crowd to come down with that 2pt conversion. Seems like he’s been in Knapps schithouse too.
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That’s another thing that had me scratchin my head. Why the hell Criner hasn’t been on the field. I know he had his ankle thing but, he’s been healthy for awhile now. He should at LEAST be splitting time with Streater, not getting table scraps. Hopefully that catch he made will demand more playing time.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I always thought Criner would be used in the Red Zone. But…………………
November 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
There is a clear agenda and slant in play with our local writers. Im thinking back but i dont remember this kind of coverage
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Are all the murders in Oaktown propaganda too!
If you say yes you’re a damn liar
November 8th, 2012 at 10:53 am
repetition is the single most effective tool used for brain wash
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That why fools keep REPEATEDLY killin each other?
November 8th, 2012 at 10:55 am
thakns O DMAC & hwnrdr.
the bad part is its my WIFES uncle, and he was a Browns fan !!
only reason for me to go is to drive her up there.
maybe now i can use that as leverage to make the trip to OAKLAND !!! lol lol lol
November 8th, 2012 at 10:56 am
why not feature DHB in the passing game. he has caught the ball deep, over the middle, in traffic, in the end zone, and has delivered yards after the catch.
It seems to me that not finding ways to get this giant wrecking ball of a receiver with mercurial speed is a major waste and big issue for our offense. he should be targets 6-10 times a game.
you can use reverses and bubble screens with this kid to because of his exceptional running ability.
he has caught the ball this year better than anybody else on the team, proving again that he is the best receiver we have on the roster, and one of our best players period.
Of course mac and cork would never admit this after writing him off on draft day.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I got this funny little feeling that Taiwan is going to run all over the Ravens.
There D has had problems stopping the run this season.
+ I’m sure they don’t have much film on him.
Ravens run D is suspect, but I forgot we can’t run the ball anyways….
November 8th, 2012 at 10:58 am
*thanks…. damn these fat fingers !!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:58 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
There is a clear agenda and slant in play with our local writers. Im thinking back but i dont remember this kind of coverage
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Are all the murders in Oaktown propaganda too!
If you say yes you’re a damn liar
jesusraiderjim Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:53 am
repetition is the single most effective tool used for brain wash
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That why fools keep REPEATEDLY killin each other?
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can anyone make any sense out of this? im at a loss.
How do you ‘repeatedly” kill someone? once your dead that is it.
What does murder in oaklnd have to do with football beat writers?
talk about wild eyed conspiracy theorist, lol this place is a nut house at times
November 8th, 2012 at 10:59 am
586.KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I always thought Criner would be used in the Red Zone. But…………………
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Same here. I thought for sure…Hopefully he made a case for himself last Sunday. It WAS a damn nice catch. And that’s what he brings.
Myers?…..Best hands on the team?…..HAAA
I bet you it’s J Criner.
November 8th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I personally like palmer because he’s white!
November 8th, 2012 at 10:59 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:55 am
thakns O DMAC & hwnrdr.
the bad part is its my WIFES uncle, and he was a Browns fan !!
only reason for me to go is to drive her up there.
maybe now i can use that as leverage to make the trip to OAKLAND !!! lol lol lol
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Green Party convention in the O!
B there or be square!
November 8th, 2012 at 11:00 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:55 am
thakns O DMAC & hwnrdr.
the bad part is its my WIFES uncle, and he was a Browns fan !!
only reason for me to go is to drive her up there.
maybe now i can use that as leverage to make the trip to OAKLAND !!! lol lol lol
That would be great! But that is a far drive…one day!
November 8th, 2012 at 11:02 am
JC not starting over Cutler and Joe Webb not starting over Ponder? #CarsonPalmersfault
November 8th, 2012 at 11:03 am
590.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:56 am
why not feature DHB in the passing game. he has caught the ball deep, over the middle, in traffic, in the end zone, and has delivered yards after the catch.
It seems to me that not finding ways to get this giant wrecking ball of a receiver with mercurial speed is a major waste and big issue for our offense. he should be targets 6-10 times a game.
you can use reverses and bubble screens with this kid to because of his exceptional running ability.
he has caught the ball this year better than anybody else on the team, proving again that he is the best receiver we have on the roster, and one of our best players period.
Of course mac and cork would never admit this after writing him off on draft day.
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Damn Straight man…..Damn Straight. I has GOT to be involved more than he has. Don’t forget the over shoulder Endzone grab earlier this year, yeah and the 2 one handed snags with DB’s hangin off him. He brings his hard hat to work and ALL he wants to do is contribute. Don’t have one ounce of “Diva” in him. His stats are lower than last year but, I’d say this is his best year hands down – performance wise.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:06 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I personally like palmer because he’s white!
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I personally like Eddie Carmona, because he’s Mexican!
Mexican kickers are the wave of the future.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:06 am
576.Dakota Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Bowe has issues, but he would certainly be a MAJOR upgrade over DHB.
2010-2012:
DHB
109 Rec 1630 yards 7 TDs
Bowe
198 Rec 2982 yards 23 TDs
Bowe has issues with drops and attitude….but as long as he produces like that, Reggie should be able to live with it lol.
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Bowes #1 issues has been the lack of consistancy at QB. In 2010 Bowe was a top 3 receiver in the league, 2010 being the only year Cassell has shown any consistancy in his play. I think Bowe with Palmer could be deadly.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I think CP is a smart qb and he throws the ball to the guy in single coverage or the guy that’s open. I don’t think he should be forcing it to dhb in double coverage, we all know he throws enough pics as it is
November 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am
With that logic, I liked Jason Elam because he was from Hawaii! Guess what? When he became a Donkey…I hated him! LOL
November 8th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DHB’s #1 problem is the ability to separate from the CB’s. He just doesn’t create the space for the qb to feel comfortable throwing him the ball. I love DHB, but he just isn’t a #1 guy. Neither is Moore imo. I think our cast of WR’s with a true veteran #1 WR could be great, not good, but GREAT. We just need that true #1 guy.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:10 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am
With that logic, I liked Jason Elam because he was from Hawaii! Guess what? When he became a Donkey…I hated him! LOL
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Elam was good, but imagine if Sea Bass were a Donkey his entire career?
Would he be the all time greatest kicker in the NFL?
November 8th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Hwnrdr,
What do you think of Marcus Mario’ta?
From Hawai’i but, KILLING it at Oregon.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Damn Straight man…..Damn Straight. I has GOT to be involved more than he has. Don’t forget the over shoulder Endzone grab earlier this year, yeah and the 2 one handed snags with DB’s hangin off him. He brings his hard hat to work and ALL he wants to do is contribute. Don’t have one ounce of “Diva” in him. His stats are lower than last year but, I’d say this is his best year hands down – performance wise.
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I’d think CP would start getting more touches to DHB considering his obvious favorite target Moore dropped one easy pass last week, and either ran the wrong route or had the wrong read at least three times… including the game ender. He’s also dropped two passes in the end zone this year.
Streater is also coming on strong and needs more touches…
November 8th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Probably DMAC! Didn’t SeaBass tie the record there in Mile High?
November 8th, 2012 at 11:11 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Probably DMAC! Didn’t SeaBass tie the record there in Mile High?
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I think so
November 8th, 2012 at 11:11 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I think CP is a smart qb and he throws the ball to the guy in single coverage or the guy that’s open. I don’t think he should be forcing it to dhb in double coverage, we all know he throws enough pics as it is
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No most of the picks carson has thrown in oakland have been to guys that are not in single coverage, just poor reads or bad decisions.
this is the major flaw in his game, not being patient enough or smart enough to take the single coverage and not force the ball down field.
besides DHb has not been doubled for every pass play, crason just prefers to look up streeter and moore. the trend continues from last year
November 8th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Wave of the future….
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/15635.png&w=350&h=254
November 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Mistic1’s view on the NFL is warped and distorted it didn’t take two articles written by local sports writers for me to figure that out.
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my view??
you have no clue on how i view it”
I know you think Palmer is a failure therefore I DO know your view and it stinks!
November 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DHB doesnt need to be a so called ” number one guy”, but he does need the ball.
If the issue is separation be creative with motion and underneath routes. Use rubs and picks on slants and crossing patterns.
I think it is simply a matter of plamer not looking him up, and what ever the reason is it doesnt justify the action.
DHB has caught the ball in traffic extremely well, besides there are plenty of receivers over the years that doent “seperate” and still contribute big time.
keyshawn johnson, vincent jackson, al toon, tim brown and jery rice here while they were here together.
Throw him the ball he is the most consistent pass catcher on the team, and one of the most explosive wrs in the nfl.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am
moore streater myers dhb have all earned touches, gotta get it to the open guy or singly covered guy without a superstar at wr. dhb has earned the right to trust throwing it up to in single coverage even if he’s not open
November 8th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Mistic1’s view on the NFL is warped and distorted it didn’t take two articles written by local sports writers for me to figure that out.
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my view??
you have no clue on how i view it”
I know you think Palmer is a failure therefore I DO know your view and it stinks!
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you said my view on the nfl
my view on palmer is another discussion
you dont know my view so stfu
November 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Wave of the future….
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/15635.png&w=350&h=254
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yezzzziirr
November 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
i know one thing, if mistic were the president he’d paint the white house black
November 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Palmer makes great reads at the LOS Mistic1 your such a liar even Dan Fout’s and Phil Simm’s can’t compliment him enough they say great things about him when they announce one of our games all game long have you ever listened to a Raiders game?
November 8th, 2012 at 11:21 am
it makes no sense to me that with talented guys like DHB moore streetr and criner that brandon myers is the reception leader. I mean are he and palmer roommates?
That is like owning a garage fool of sports cars but choosing to race in a model t
November 8th, 2012 at 11:22 am
“you dont know my view so stfu”
Your an arrogant racist f@ck who is so blinded by his hate his views are distorted to the point where your fanhood here is questioned.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:21 am
it makes no sense to me that with talented guys like DHB moore streetr and criner that brandon myers is the reception leader. I mean are he and palmer roommates?
That is like owning a garage fool of sports cars but choosing to race in a model
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the guy get’s open and it’s noticable. his favorite wr target is moore, why? he’s the best we have. if you’ve noticed the catches dhb has caught have been of the difficult variety because guys have been all over him yet cp still throws to him, why because it’s single coverage which is when he should be targeted. as far as routes are concerned that’s on the playcalling
November 8th, 2012 at 11:24 am
So Dan Fouts, Phil Simms all of the local sports writers are all WRONG and Mystic1 is right.
Come on Man!
November 8th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Palmer makes great reads at the LOS Mistic1 your such a liar even Dan Fout’s and Phil Simm’s can’t compliment him enough they say great things about him when they announce one of our games all game long have you ever listened to a Raiders game?
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who said he didnt? It cant be denied that after the snap he has forced quite a few errant throws into targets that are not open and covered by more than one guy since joining the raider team.
Im not ripping him, however im sure even he would admit he needs to get better in this area in particular. in fact he has after the last two games ended with his picks
November 8th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Want to see more of Criner. He goes up and gets it. I like our wr core. Young but tons of talent and depth.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Palmer is great he is here for at least three more years just shut up and enjoy having a good QB here while we rebuild.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I want to see no huddle, all game long.
Can’t go any worse than Knappy calling the plays.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:22 am
“you dont know my view so stfu”
Your an arrogant racist f@ck who is so blinded by his hate his views are distorted to the point where your fanhood here is questioned.
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racist? what proof do you have to back up this slander?
I have been attacked by racists on this blog for years, i have seen disgusting things written time and time again. i will always defend my self, it is the right of a free man, and the duty of a warrior.
you must understand that this board is a reflection of larger society. White men are the vast majority on this board therfore this board is also infected with many of the ills that have been documented in society since the inception of this country.
I dont expect people to support my take, im out numbered here.
Admitting this and self defense are not racist, just practical.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Palmer is great he is here for at least three more years just shut up and enjoy having a good QB here while we rebuild.
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you are entitled to your undying hero worship. i dont have to agree with your take on palmer.
Im sure there are guys that you are not sold on on the roster, does that make you less of a fan?
so if you point out flaws in willie smith’s game, are you less of a fan?
or is only questioning the qb out of bounds?
November 8th, 2012 at 11:32 am
has cp made some critical errors? no doubt. but i think our wr corps is deep but average at best.
Streater =undrafted
Moore= 2nd year, undersized, dropped his share
DHB=well rounded but doesn’t seem to get open
Criner=rookie, slow, dropped alotta balls preseason
Hagan=slow, journeyman, sure handed but not much seperation
Ausberry=raw, learning the position
Gordon=not known as a pass catcher
Reece=solid, but too small to be a te, too slow to be a wr, fb don’t get on the field much
Cp in my opinion has made the most out of these guys
November 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Why does it even bother you Mistic? I mean, it wouldn’t bother me if someone said I was g@y, cause I ain’t. I got a hot a$$ woman I go home to every night. If you ain’t racist and you know that, why do you feel the need to defend yourself so much….. I read alot in here, and see it.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I have been attacked by racists on this blog for years, i have seen disgusting things written time and time again. i will always defend my self, it is the right of a free man, and the duty of a warrior.
you must understand that this board is a reflection of larger society. White men are the vast majority on this board therfore this board is also infected with many of the ills that have been documented in society since the inception of this country.
I dont expect people to support my take, im out numbered here.
Admitting this and self defense are not racist, just practical.
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Me too. I’m constantly called a Welfare Check Casher, Shoe shine boy, Sponging of my white wife……….
November 8th, 2012 at 11:36 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I have been attacked by racists on this blog for years, i have seen disgusting things written time and time again. i will always defend my self, it is the right of a free man, and the duty of a warrior.
you must understand that this board is a reflection of larger society. White men are the vast majority on this board therfore this board is also infected with many of the ills that have been documented in society since the inception of this country.
I dont expect people to support my take, im out numbered here.
Admitting this and self defense are not racist, just practical.
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Me too. I’m constantly called a Welfare Check Casher, Shoe shine boy, Sponging of my white wife……….
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Cry me a river
November 8th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Only the strong survive!
November 8th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Cry me a river
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Not crying, just saying. But, it makes you people hostile.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Surprised we don’t have some packages for Pryor. Dual QB, end-around WR option to pass, double pass, etc.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Me too. I’m constantly called a Welfare Check Casher, Shoe shine boy, Sponging of my white wife……….
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KK, I obviously don’t know you man, but I been reading the blog for years, and you DO take alot of CRAP in here. Must stem from issuses before I came along. I personally got no agaendas with anyone or FOR anyone. I just wanna talk Raider football and that’s it. Nothing more. You were in the Navy, and that gets enough respect from me ; a fellow Marine…..
November 8th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Kell
U say a lot of schit that triggers a lot of people on here and then wonder why your being attacked?\
Think about it.
Real talk man.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:43 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Why does it even bother you Mistic? I mean, it wouldn’t bother me if someone said I was g@y, cause I ain’t. I got a hot a$$ woman I go home to every night. If you ain’t racist and you know that, why do you feel the need to defend yourself so much….. I read alot in here, and see it.
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it doesnt bother me, im was born into the warrior class, as a result I was born for battle.
I believe in the old african code, “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth”. it is just fair and righteous.
besides why turn the other cheek so you van be hit on the other side of the face?
I will never submit and i live to destroy my enemies
ASE
November 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Kell
U say a lot of schit that triggers a lot of people on here and then wonder why your being attacked?\
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Like what?
November 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I have been attacked by racists on this blog for years, i have seen disgusting things written time and time again. i will always defend my self, it is the right of a free man, and the duty of a warrior.
you must understand that this board is a reflection of larger society. White men are the vast majority on this board therfore this board is also infected with many of the ills that have been documented in society since the inception of this country.
I dont expect people to support my take, im out numbered here.
Admitting this and self defense are not racist, just practical.
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Me too. I’m constantly called a Welfare Check Casher, Shoe shine boy, Sponging of my white wife……….
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YEP so then they can expect to bet hit back,
‘”every action has an equal an opposite reaction” – newton
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:36 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I have been attacked by racists on this blog for years, i have seen disgusting things written time and time again. i will always defend my self, it is the right of a free man, and the duty of a warrior.
you must understand that this board is a reflection of larger society. White men are the vast majority on this board therfore this board is also infected with many of the ills that have been documented in society since the inception of this country.
I dont expect people to support my take, im out numbered here.
Admitting this and self defense are not racist, just practical.
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Me too. I’m constantly called a Welfare Check Casher, Shoe shine boy, Sponging of my white wife……….
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Cry me a river
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count on it…crying tears of joy when i take off the heads of my enemies
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
639.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:43 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Why does it even bother you Mistic? I mean, it wouldn’t bother me if someone said I was g@y, cause I ain’t. I got a hot a$$ woman I go home to every night. If you ain’t racist and you know that, why do you feel the need to defend yourself so much….. I read alot in here, and see it.
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it doesnt bother me, im was born into the warrior class, as a result I was born for battle.
I believe in the old african code, “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth”. it is just fair and righteous.
besides why turn the other cheek so you van be hit on the other side of the face?
I will never submit and i live to destroy my enemies
ASE
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I got the Warrior blood too. I’ll always be a Marine in my heart. But over the years, I’ve chosen which battles to fight and which to just put my hand in the air and say “You ain’t worth my breath”
My family, my friends…I’ll fight to the death for.
My pride, and dignity are MINE…Can’t be taken by another mans words.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Kell
U say a lot of schit that triggers a lot of people on here and then wonder why your being attacked?\
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Like what?
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You like posting the same ass schit. Over and over and over.
You call people dumbasses.
You like to brag about your little trips over seas.
It goes on and on and on.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:43 am
theghostronin79 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Why does it even bother you Mistic? I mean, it wouldn’t bother me if someone said I was g@y, cause I ain’t. I got a hot a$$ woman I go home to every night. If you ain’t racist and you know that, why do you feel the need to defend yourself so much….. I read alot in here, and see it.
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it doesnt bother me, im was born into the warrior class, as a result I was born for battle.
I believe in the old african code, “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth”. it is just fair and righteous.
besides why turn the other cheek so you van be hit on the other side of the face?
I will never submit and i live to destroy my enemies
ASE
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2Pac
November 8th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
You like to brag about your little trips over seas.
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Yeah, that really upsets them. Smh.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am
You call people dumbasses.
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Yeah, I do. AFTER Ive been attacked.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Kell
I have no beef w/ u what so ever.
To keep it real w/ u.
I think many people talk schit about you, because they see you as a easy target.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:51 am
that was part of my point moron, jerry mac reads the blog then labels anyone that supports pryor a “radical”.
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Jerry Mac and Cork do read the blog, and the “radical” label is just pointing to you in general, has nothing to do with actually supporting Pryor.
“and some of the more radical elements of the Raider fan base would like to see No. 3 quarterback Terrelle Pryor, inactive for the first eight weeks.”
That comment simply translates to, some of the biggest idiots on the blog (hint-hint) want Terrell Pryor.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
You like to brag about your little trips over seas.
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Have you ever been on a “little trip overseas”?
November 8th, 2012 at 11:52 am
bcz24 Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Looks like Paul G is sick of reading Mistics anti-palmer drivel too… he started the #PalmersFault hashtag on twitter. Its kinda funny to read them all.
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Actually I did.
My handle is daraider84 on twitter.
Trace it back to Sunday after the game, Monday and Tuesday morning.
It started gaining steam Tuesday afternoon.
I was cracking up.
I was saying “Carson’s fault” in response to a bunch of tweets about stats, etc from the different writers. Mainly on how bad the run defense played verses Doug Martin.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:53 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
You like to brag about your little trips over seas.
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Have you ever been on a “little trip overseas”?
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Here we go again!!!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 11:54 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
You like to brag about your little trips over seas.
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Have you ever been on a “little trip overseas”?
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I’ve been to Peru, Puerto Rico, Mexico many times (not over seas)
November 8th, 2012 at 11:54 am
DMAC Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Kell
I have no beef w/ u what so ever.
To keep it real w/ u.
I think many people talk schit about you, because they see you as a easy target.
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Definitely, an outspoken black man. Very easy.
November 8th, 2012 at 11:58 am
But over the years, I’ve chosen which battles to fight and which to just put my hand in the air and say “You ain’t worth my breath”
My family, my friends…I’ll fight to the death for.
My pride, and dignity are MINE…Can’t be taken by another mans words.
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Yep, and blog fights are meaningless.
November 8th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Oh man, this is just so great
Folks, KrappyRat knows exactly what he’s doing. Sad old Troll has been doing it for years.
His only goal to is get some attention from strangers on a football blog
Pretty much everyday he’ll throw out a nugget like “dining with the King and Queen of Switzerland and they want me to be their royal Prince” to instigate
The he’ll revert to “you’re obsessed over my life”
Then he’ll throw out the “poor me” card like a beaten lamb, hoping for some compassion.
Or, if he’s super faded on Malibu Rum, he’ll go into a wild racist rant or post some of those drunken hillbilly lyrics about stomping on trolls (which he’s never done, fyi)
And, of course, if confronted, he simply high tails it for the hills and comes back when he thinks the coast is clear
Sounds impossible, but Blog Brahs, it’s all true
HOLLA
November 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
pot calling the kettle black.
priceless!!
November 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
mex ghost—–it’s boo-rito time!
November 8th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
Mistic1’s view on the NFL is warped and distorted it didn’t take two articles written by local sports writers for me to figure that out.
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
my view??
you have no clue on how i view it
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After 300 plus posts, the majority being multi paragraph diatribes, we have no clue about your views? I assume then that you have been running a counter intelligence psy-op on all of us unsuspecting semi’s in here. Or suffer from verbal diarrhea. I will concede that you engage in counter intelligent commentary.
November 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
–been doing it for years.
–only goal to is get some attention from strangers on a football blog
–to instigate
–he’ll revert to “you’re obsessed over my life”
–about stomping on trolls (which he’s never done, fyi)
–if confronted, he simply high tails it for the hills and comes back when he thinks the coast is clear
now who are we talking about here?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!
November 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
mistic disagrees not onlt with everyone on the blog about our golden haired hero, but all of the local media, and all of the nfl gm’s.
but he’s the “wave of the future”.
November 8th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
MistaBrownStains Says:
November 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
DMAC will never play a full season in his career in Oakland so I’m glad we traded him to Seattle Today!!!!!.