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McFadden, Goodson, Seymour not practicing

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, November 8th, 2012 at 11:53 am in Oakland Raiders.

As expected, running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson, as well as defensive tackle Richard Seymour, are not practicing today. That makes it more likely that they won’t be available for the Baltimore Ravens game.
Coach Dennis Allen has not rueld out any of the aforementioned trio. He said he won’t make any definitive statements along those lines until Friday, at the earliest.
Still, this has the look of second-year running back Taiwan Jones getting his first extensive action since he arrived via the NFL draft last season.
Jones has touched the ball on offense two times this season. He was part of a botched reverse in the regular-season opener on a play that resulted in a 25-yard loss after fullback Marcel Reece’s pitch was mishandled by Jones. In fairness, Reece’s exhange wasn’t very smooth.
Jones rushed once for 2 yards late in the game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last Sunday. Beyond that, Jones returned one kick for 6 yards against the Chargers in the opener and caught a pass for 4 yards on a fake punt against the Buccaneers.
Jones rushed for 73 yards on 16 carries last season, when he was behind McFadden and Michael Bush.

– Linebaacker Aaron Curry and cornerback Ron Bartell look at full strength in practice today. Curry was activated to the 53-man roster Tuesday. Bartell can be activated Saturday.
As for now, it appears as if Bartell will be activated and play Sunday. He missed the past seven games while recovering from a shoulder injury suffered in the opener.
It looks as if Bartell will play right cornerback, with Michael Huff remaining at the left cornerbacak spot. If so, Joselio Hanson likely will remain in the slot on passing downs, with Pat Lee and Phillip Adams seeing reduced snaps.
Cornerback Shawntae Spencer is the only other player unable to practice today. Therefore, it looks as if he is in line to miss his seventh straight game. He hurt his foot against the Miami Dolphins on Sept. 16 and hasn’t practiced or played in a game since that day.

– Allen still hasn’t tipped his hand on whether he intends to start Willie Smith, Khalif Barnes or rookie Tony Bergstrom at right offensive tackle Sunday.
Smith has started the past six games there in relief of the injured Barnes. However, Barnes returned to practice Wednesday, and he looks ready to go.

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252 Responses to “McFadden, Goodson, Seymour not practicing”

  1. Dan78 Says:

    uno

  2. Dan78 Says:

    Jabust

  3. DMAC Says:

    2pac w/ out the nose ring

  4. DMAC Says:

    Shek Quatro

  5. DMAC Says:

    Tengo cinco en el

  6. KoolKell Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Kell
    I have no beef w/ u what so ever.
    To keep it real w/ u.
    I think many people talk schit about you, because they see you as a easy target.
    ———————-
    Definitely, an outspoken black man. Very easy.

  7. daraider09 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 8:33 am
    Looks like Paul G is sick of reading Mistics anti-palmer drivel too… he started the #PalmersFault hashtag on twitter. Its kinda funny to read them all.
    **************************************************
    Actually I did.

    My handle is daraider84 on twitter.

    Trace it back to Sunday after the game, Monday and Tuesday morning.

    It started gaining steam Tuesday afternoon.

    I was cracking up.

    I was saying “Carson’s fault” in response to a bunch of tweets about stats, etc from the different writers. Mainly on how bad the run defense played verses Doug Martin.

    I spoke with another member of the Nation (cool guy) who said he had a radio show online Monday night and that was Carson to blame was a major topic, so his listeners started saying it a lot of twitter on Tuesday.

    So maybe it was a combination, but I defintely was saying it since Sunday. It got hot on Tuesday afternoon.

  8. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why do we keep getting Spencer “updates”

  9. DMAC Says:

    It looks as if Bartell will play right cornerback, with Michael Huff remaining at the left cornerbacak spot. If so, Joselio Hanson likely will remain in the slot on passing downs, with Pat Lee and Phillip Adams seeing reduced snaps.
    ==========

    No
    We need to keep Lee in there and move Huffy back to the safety position.

  10. DMAC Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Kell
    I have no beef w/ u what so ever.
    To keep it real w/ u.
    I think many people talk schit about you, because they see you as a easy target.
    ———————-
    Definitely, an outspoken black man. Very easy.
    ==========

    Has nothing to do w/ u being black.
    You might of exposed 2 much of your personal info. on the blog and the semi’s took it and ran w/ it.

  11. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Oh man, this is just so great

    Folks, KrappyRat knows exactly what he’s doing. Sad old Troll has been doing it for years.

    His only goal to is get some attention from strangers on a football blog

    Pretty much everyday he’ll throw out a nugget like “dining with the King and Queen of Switzerland and they want me to be their royal Prince” to instigate

    The he’ll revert to “you’re obsessed over my life”

    Then he’ll throw out the “poor me” card like a beaten lamb, hoping for some compassion.

    Or, if he’s super faded on Malibu Rum, he’ll go into a wild racist rant or post some of those drunken hillbilly lyrics about stomping on trolls (which he’s never done, fyi)

    And, of course, if confronted, he simply high tails it for the hills and comes back when he thinks the coast is clear

    Sounds impossible, but Blog Brahs, it’s all true

    HOLLA

  12. inonewordraider Says:

    from bashing barnes to singing his praises, actually barnes was solid last year when he wasn’t getting flagged

  13. KoolKell Says:

    I knew Beeech Dawg would be here within 5 minutes of seeing my post.

  14. inonewordraider Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    It looks as if Bartell will play right cornerback, with Michael Huff remaining at the left cornerbacak spot. If so, Joselio Hanson likely will remain in the slot on passing downs, with Pat Lee and Phillip Adams seeing reduced snaps.
    ==========

    No
    We need to keep Lee in there and move Huffy back to the safety position
    ___________________
    hmmm that’s a tough one

    Pat Lee or Huff?

    Gio or Huff?

  15. KoolKell Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Has nothing to do w/ u being black.
    ———————-
    Wrong. “Always bragging about your little overseas trips”

  16. hwnrdr Says:

    On twitter, Corky mentioned something about Gruden to Eagles and Andy Reid to Oakland as OC!

  17. DMAC Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    It looks as if Bartell will play right cornerback, with Michael Huff remaining at the left cornerbacak spot. If so, Joselio Hanson likely will remain in the slot on passing downs, with Pat Lee and Phillip Adams seeing reduced snaps.
    ==========

    No
    We need to keep Lee in there and move Huffy back to the safety position
    ___________________
    hmmm that’s a tough one

    Pat Lee or Huff?

    Gio or Huff?
    =======
    Safety position…
    I think Huffy is a better tackler in the open field than Gio, but Gio is better in coverage.
    Tough one, like you said.
    I still would roll w/ Lee/Bartell at CB and Huffy at safety.

  18. DMAC Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Has nothing to do w/ u being black.
    ———————-
    Wrong. “Always bragging about your little overseas trips”
    ========
    ??????

  19. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    that was part of my point moron, jerry mac reads the blog then labels anyone that supports pryor a “radical”.

    ******************************

    Jerry Mac and Cork do read the blog, and the “radical” label is just pointing to you in general, has nothing to do with actually supporting Pryor.

    “and some of the more radical elements of the Raider fan base would like to see No. 3 quarterback Terrelle Pryor, inactive for the first eight weeks.”

    That comment simply translates to, some of the biggest idiots on the blog (hint-hint) want Terrell Pryor.
    =====================

    You are further illustrating my point

    i am not the only person on this board that supports the idea of pryor playing at the end of the year post playoff elimination.

    so clearly this isnt directed at me alone. you only wish i was the only person that feels like pryor should play given the above circumstances.

    they are using negative word association for pryor and his supporters by labeling them “radical”

    even you should be smart enough to follow that.

  20. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, the Beeeech Diggity is taking this jam to the NEXT LEVEL this weekend, holla

    Filled up the Rasta Ganja tour van with Magnum condoms and a case of Slim Jims for the ride to San Diego

    Oh yeah, we’ll be tokin mad rips from the tire bong

    Invented it back in college (magna cum laude, holla, that’s latin for hella smart), got almost 8 gallons of H2o and an 1/8 of hydro

    One hit makes your nads turn orange

    Probably do a sweet acoustic jam during the ride, then when we stop for snacks it’s pretty easy to pick up hot hitchhikers for group intercourse

    RIDIN’ HIGH ON THE I-5

  21. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    As much as everyone here wants to pin the loss of faith in palmer on myself and a few others, clearly this sentiment is picking up steam all through out the raider fan base.

    other wise it would not be a popular topic for radio, message boards or bar talk, and it is exactly those things

  22. Just Fire Baby Says:

    they are using negative word association for pryor and his supporters by labeling them “radical”

    even you should be smart enough to follow that.

    *****************************

    I do follow, you are radical

  23. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    cork and jerry mac………EXPOSED

  24. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    As much as everyone here wants to pin the loss of faith in palmer on myself and a few others, clearly this sentiment is picking up steam all through out the raider fan base.

    other wise it would not be a popular topic for radio, message boards or bar talk, and it is exactly those things
    ———————
    We all thought we were right in cheering (and booing) for good ol’ #2 to start. Didn’t make it a good idea.

  25. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    they are using negative word association for pryor and his supporters by labeling them “radical”

    even you should be smart enough to follow that.

    *****************************

    I do follow, you are radical
    ===========

    just because it is said so by you or local agenda bent media does not make it true.

    believe it or not some people simply want to see the kid play in real action to see if he is capable of leading us out of the basement next year.

    replacing an incumbent starter at the end of a losing season with a young untested drafted qb for evaluation and game reps is not radical at all, in fact it is a very common practice in sports.

    we have seen it here as recently as mckown being moved aside for jamarcus

    or other cities, like mcnabb moved for ponder, garrard moved for gabbert then tannyhill and so on

  26. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    As much as everyone here wants to pin the loss of faith in palmer on myself and a few others, clearly this sentiment is picking up steam all through out the raider fan base.

    other wise it would not be a popular topic for radio, message boards or bar talk, and it is exactly those things
    ———————
    We all thought we were right in cheering (and booing) for good ol’ #2 to start. Didn’t make it a good idea.
    ====================

    It is always a good idea to find out if a guy can play or not. jamarcuss proved he couldnt, that does not mean that the practice of playng youngsters at the end of a losing season isnt sound prudent diligence.

    It is actually a part of common draft strategy

  27. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well one things for sure, Palmer definitely needs to have a good game this weekend.

    I the think Marcel can have 100+ yards from scrimmage and we hang 30 on them.

  28. raiderinparadise Says:

    Just the type of game the raiders win.

  29. KoolKell Says:

    Raiderinparadise Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Just the type of game the raiders win.
    ————
    I dont see it, but, Yeah.

  30. inonewordraider Says:

    You are further illustrating my point

    i am not the only person on this board that supports the idea of pryor playing at the end of the year post playoff elimination.

    so clearly this isnt directed at me alone. you only wish i was the only person that feels like pryor should play given the above circumstances.

    they are using negative word association for pryor and his supporters by labeling them “radical”

    even you should be smart enough to follow that.
    ________________
    although you won’t agree, it’s radical in the same way it’s radical thinking to want to fire knapp, or have Goodson be the primary ball carrier because of his ypc. If/when we’re eliminated from playoff contention we should play pryor to help him gain experience but don’t pull a shannahan by going into evaluation mode when we’re in contention, what message does that send to the players? how do you motivate a team when you’ve essentially started looking to the future as an organization?

  31. DMAC Says:

    The Ravens run D is suspect, but I forgot that we can’t run the ball anyways.
    Oh well.

  32. Just Fire Baby Says:

    replacing an incumbent starter at the end of a losing season with a young untested drafted qb for evaluation and game reps is not radical at all,

    ***********************************

    Oh I agree, if we are 4-9 I want to see Pryor get at least a few series worked in.

    Jerry wasn’t as much saying the idea was “radical” , he more or less called out you and a few others like KoolKell as the “radical” element itself.

  33. DMAC Says:

    We still win it w/ a Jano FG.

  34. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    It is always a good idea to find out if a guy can play or not. jamarcuss proved he couldnt, that does not mean that the practice of playng youngsters at the end of a losing season isnt sound prudent diligence.

    It is actually a part of common draft strategy

    ==========================
    Not totally disagreeing with you. I think Pryor has some real talent and a bright future. But putting him in would be at the expense of giving our current starters and our projected starter at QB the disservice of getting the playbook and the nuances of the ZBS down pat, given thats what theyre likely gonna stick with next year. Perhaps your assumption is the CP will likely be gone due to his $13million pay next year. Maybe, maybe not. Putting him in towards the end, maybe 2 or 3 to go might make sense, but not at this point in the season or after the next loss. Our teams as it is has a long way to go chemistry wise, and adding that other element will thwart the progress of our current unit in my opinion.

  35. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    palmer has owned the ravens as a member of the bungles.

    my question is does this raider team measure up the teams palmer had as a bungle? Im not sure he has the talent around him that he had in cicny and that is both offense and defense.

    This will be all on palmer one way or another, with otu a dependable running back and that horrid defense, he will need to play mistake free and win a shoot out.

    lets see if he can keep us mathematically in the hunt until the biggest game of his career and the biggest game of our season BUNGLE BOWL 2012

  36. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Any of you Dorks ever eat a bowl of Indian curry then light your fart on fire?

    Thought it was an old wives tale, but I just blasted a whole through my dishwasher

    Shout out to GE for that 20 year warranty, holla

    ITS A KORMA STORMA

  37. raiderinparadise Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Raiderinparadise Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Just the type of game the raiders win.
    ————
    I dont see it, but, Yeah.

    ——-

    Thats why its likley.

  38. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    It is always a good idea to find out if a guy can play or not. jamarcuss proved he couldnt, that does not mean that the practice of playng youngsters at the end of a losing season isnt sound prudent diligence.

    It is actually a part of common draft strategy

    ==========================
    Not totally disagreeing with you. I think Pryor has some real talent and a bright future. But putting him in would be at the expense of giving our current starters and our projected starter at QB the disservice of getting the playbook and the nuances of the ZBS down pat, given thats what theyre likely gonna stick with next year. Perhaps your assumption is the CP will likely be gone due to his $13million pay next year. Maybe, maybe not. Putting him in towards the end, maybe 2 or 3 to go might make sense, but not at this point in the season or after the next loss. Our teams as it is has a long way to go chemistry wise, and adding that other element will thwart the progress of our current unit in my opinion.
    =============

    Not really. even if the plan is to retain palmer, youstill need to play pryor at the end of the losing season.

    1. nothing at stake why contiue to let palmer take the hits on his clealry worn and aging body? If he is the future for the next year or two you must protect your investment (especially at 13 mil)

    2. The raiders must find out if pryor is the heir apparent or if they will need to draft a qb of the future. to expect palmer to be able to play past for any extended amount of time beyond his already advanced age ( football standard) of 32 would be reckless at best.

  39. theghostronin79 Says:

    am not the only person on this board that supports the idea of pryor playing at the end of the year post playoff elimination.

    so clearly this isnt directed at me alone. you only wish i was the only person that feels like pryor should play given the above circumstances.

    they are using negative word association for pryor and his supporters by labeling them “radical”

    ========

    The key phrase in this whole thing is “Post Playoff Elimination.”

    There’s folks out there who think Pryor should be playing RIGHT NOW..

    That to me is rediculous…THAT is radical.
    Not taking a look at the kid after our season is decided.

    I don’t get this ORG yet though….Who knows WTF they’re gonna do. We could be 3-12 playing SD, and have Palmer under center till the bitter end. I don’t have any Fuggin idea.

  40. raiderinparadise Says:

    ALSO I HAVE KIM NEWTON PUTTING HIS SUGGESTION BOX TO WORK AGAINST THE BRONCOS.

  41. bcz24 Says:

    32 is hardly an ‘advanced’ age for a QB. He isn’t a running back.

  42. oakfoshow Says:

    RaiderDick is the king cok breath around here.As soon as he logs on,I hope he logs off.

  43. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    =============

    Not really. even if the plan is to retain palmer, youstill need to play pryor at the end of the losing season.

    ============

    Again, I agreed that towards the end of the season (maybe 2 or 3 to go might make sense…), but I just think it’s too early as of now.

    Do I hope he’s proves to be good enough to be CP’s successor, most definitely.

  44. walrushooker Says:

    Hopefully Seymour will be out and we won’t have that hole on the dline. More snaps for Bryant!

    Excited to see Huff once he moves back to Safety. All these reps as a corner should make him a pretty dynamic weapon if used right. Not saying he’s anything to close to Polamalu, but what makes him so dangerous is he can come up within 5 yards of the line and you have no idea what the defense is going to be; drops to cover 2, covers the slot as cover 1, extra defender against the run, blitz on the pass.

  45. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    =============

    Not really. even if the plan is to retain palmer, youstill need to play pryor at the end of the losing season.

    ============

    Again, I agreed that towards the end of the season (maybe 2 or 3 to go might make sense…), but I just think it’s too early as of now.

    Do I hope he’s proves to be good enough to be CP’s successor, most definitely.

    ==================

    I think your opinion of the END of the season just differs from ours. 3-6 is the end for you perhaps?

  46. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    More media tricknology?

    I clearly remember before the college season the hype was how deep the qb class was, and that it was very good.

    guys like tyler wilson and bray, and barkley even arron murray were being touted as the cream of an outsanding class, by talking heads, and the hordes of faceless bloggers.

    now that the tylers, wilson barkley and murray have been exposed as frauds the word is it is a “weak draft class’

    so now that ej manual and geno smith are the clear two best prospects the whole class has been downgraded by the media.

    coincidence?

  47. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    Mistic1’s view on the NFL is warped and distorted it didn’t take two articles written by local sports writers for me to figure that out.
    ===========
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    my view??
    you have no clue on how i view it
    ======================================================

    After 300 plus posts, the majority being multi paragraph diatribes, we have no clue about your views? I assume then that you have been running a counter intelligence psy-op on all of us unsuspecting semi’s in here. Or suffer from verbal diarrhea. I will concede that you engage in counter intelligent commentary.

  48. beechams gay lover Says:

    ok guys everyone be nice to beechy dawg. he didnt get the job at chik fil and spent all night out so dont make fun of him.

  49. daraider09 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    32 is hardly an ‘advanced’ age for a QB. He isn’t a running back.
    **********************************
    I agre with this and have been saying it for a while.

    The more I watch this guy keep us in games and bring us back week after week this season, I think the hashtag should maybe be:

    #BuildaroundPalmer

    I think we should keep drafting, keep buiulding the system. He can still be good at age 34 or 35 when the rest of the roster is ready for primetime. Especially if we improve the roster and perfect the system enough so we dont need to depend so much on him. Look at Houston.

    RUN THE BALL, PLAY DEFENSE and QB MAKE A FEW BIG THROWS PER GAME. Thats what I want to see. Palmer could be great in that setting. Think Houston Texans.

  50. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    =============

    Not really. even if the plan is to retain palmer, youstill need to play pryor at the end of the losing season.

    ============

    Again, I agreed that towards the end of the season (maybe 2 or 3 to go might make sense…), but I just think it’s too early as of now.

    Do I hope he’s proves to be good enough to be CP’s successor, most definitely.

    ==================

    I think your opinion of the END of the season just differs from ours. 3-6 is the end for you perhaps?
    ===================

    my take has always been give him the last 1/4 of the season if we are out of the hunt by then.

    Again i dont think we will be mathematically alive by the time we reach THE BUNGLE BOWL.

    The last 3-4 games of the year while the team is playing out the string is the best way to handle it

  51. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Captain Queeg: Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers…

  52. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Alright Brahs, had to go through a whole roll of Bounty to clean up that mess, but the Beeeech Diggity is back on track

    Put on a brand new jock strap (XXXL, you know how them Big Dawgs bark) and rubbed down the Beeeech Abs with Nutella

    For some reason when a stripper gets hella wasted, they like to spend all night licking that sweet European chocolate off the 18 pack

    Hey, as long as their friend is ridin’ the Lawg, whom I to complain?

    Awwww yeah, ballahs be ballin’ while them dueces be fallin’

    WRECKS N EFFECT

  53. MistaBrown Says:

    DMAC will never play a full season in his career in Oakland or any place.

  54. dr_robert Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    HAHAHAHAHA!!!

    pot calling the kettle black.

    priceless!!

    –been doing it for years.

    –only goal to is get some attention from strangers on a football blog

    –to instigate

    –he’ll revert to “you’re obsessed over my life”

    –about stomping on trolls (which he’s never done, fyi)

    –if confronted, he simply high tails it for the hills and comes back when he thinks the coast is clear

    now who are we talking about here?

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!

  55. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says: Jerry wasn’t as much saying the idea was “radical” , he more or less called out you and a few others like KoolKell as the “radical” element itself.============================================

    You’re not suggesting that he is twisting the words of the ‘devilishly clever trcknologists’ and, by doing so, engaging in, well, tricknology?

  56. dr_robert Says:

    mistic disagrees not onlt with everyone on the blog about our golden haired hero, but all of the local media, and all of the nfl gm’s.

    but he’s the “wave of the future”.

  57. dr_robert Says:

    mex ghost—–it’s boo-rito time!

  58. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    32 is hardly an ‘advanced’ age for a QB. He isn’t a running back.
    ==============

    palmer has taken a beating his knee and elbow come to mind.

    32 is an advanced age for football players regardless of position excluding kickers.

    rarely do athletes in any sport sign big extensions at this age, because there is a finite shelf life.

    he may be fortunate enough to perform until he is in his mid or late 30’s but the front office cant afford to wait and see, they need an insurance policy.

    Most athletes qbis included peak in their mid to lat 20’s then begin the slow staedy decline after 30.

    Guys like moon, farve, elway marino and so on are the exception not the norm and that is why they are hall of fame players.

    palmer? lets just say there is no guarantee that he will be able to match the level of play at the same age as the above, and for this a bck up plan must be hatched the groomed.

  59. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    DMAC Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Kell
    I have no beef w/ u what so ever.
    To keep it real w/ u.
    I think many people talk schit about you, because they see you as a easy target.
    ———————-
    Definitely, an outspoken black man. Very easy.

    **************

    uh-oh. kell has been attending priest and mistic’s “new black panther party” meetings.

  60. mcfadden20. Says:

    JC 3-8 when RB went under 100 rushing yards
    9-2 when a RB went over 100 yards rushing

    do the math and figure out who really contributed the most the running backs , who killed the time by running over DT’s and also killing the the time in process , or JC’s measly 175 yards per game passing and 1 TD per game average

  61. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    mistic disagrees not onlt with everyone on the blog about our golden haired hero, but all of the local media, and all of the nfl gm’s.

    but he’s the “wave of the future”.
    ==========

    You would feel better if it were only me, however there is quickly growing ground swell of disenchanted raider fans that fell for the hype.

  62. mcfadden20. Says:

    Who moved the chains by running over D’s ((****&&&^^^^

  63. bcz24 Says:

    You act like Palmer should be applying for AARP…

  64. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
    cork and jerry mac………EXPOSED

    *****************

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

    this clown is hilarious.

  65. bcz24 Says:

    You would feel better if it were only me, however there is quickly growing ground swell of disenchanted raider fans that fell for the hype.
    **************
    Please show us these fAns you speak of.

  66. Raider O Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    Who’s to blame for our 3rd Q ass whoopins?

    ——–

    Turd Monkeys!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO

  67. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Just Fire Baby Says: Jerry wasn’t as much saying the idea was “radical” , he more or less called out you and a few others like KoolKell as the “radical” element itself.============================================

    You’re not suggesting that he is twisting the words of the ‘devilishly clever trcknologists’ and, by doing so, engaging in, well, tricknology?
    ============

    i think your cd is skipping

    he is suggesting that anyone that wants to see pryor play this season is “radical”

    Therefore the very idea of pryor playing this season is in itself ‘radical” according to this known palmer worshiper and propaganda agent.

    he is attaching a negative connotation to both pryor and his supporters with this slick usage of words.

    You cant be this dumb

  68. VanHeathen30 Says:

    Just be thankful that MGMT does NOT listen to simpleton fans who ALWAYS place all blame on the starting QB…especially when those same fans still clamor for the previous QB who happily took a job holding a clipboard.

  69. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    mistic disagrees not onlt with everyone on the blog about our golden haired hero, but all of the local media, and all of the nfl gm’s.

    but he’s the “wave of the future”.
    ==========

    You would feel better if it were only me, however there is quickly growing ground swell of disenchanted raider fans that fell for the hype.

    ***************

    there may be a lot of idiots out there. happy to see u know ur place.

  70. mcfadden20. Says:

    JC total of 2,387 yards in full 2010 season, games in the league 13 TDs and 8 ints 84 rating

    CP 2,355 yards through 8 games 13 TDs , 8 int 85 rating

  71. dr_robert Says:

    miss-dick. just stfu already!!

    do u have anything else to say?

    ur a broken record.

  72. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    You act like Palmer should be applying for AARP…
    ==========

    no but i am saying that the raiders would be negligent by now having a qb of the future in place going into next year.

    time is undefeated

  73. mcfadden20. Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    JC total of 2,387 yards in full 2010 season, games in the league 13 TDs and 8 ints 84 rating with top 10 running game

    CP 2,355 yards through 8 games 13 TDs , 8 int 85 rating
    with bottom 5 running game

  74. dr_robert Says:

    hey mistic–

    MV: Carson Palmer was a pain in Baltimore’s you-know-what when he was with the Cincinnati Bengals. He has been with the Raiders for a little over a year now and appears to be settling in. How do you think he has played this season and what is the offense’s ceiling with him under center?

    JM: Palmer could end up setting a Raiders passing yardage record this season, but that was never the plan. The hope was they’d be one of the top rushing teams in the NFL, instead they’re one of the worst. The Raiders’ 3-5 record is not impressive, but without Palmer, one of several quarterbacks they’ve had since Rich Gannon, they’d be 0-8. He makes one throw per game that makes you scratch your head, but has been very good at bringing the Raiders from behind in the fourth quarter.

    as u have seen repeatedly, nobody here, excluding priest thinks u have any football knowledge, and no nfl brass feel anything close to what u feel.

    but of course we all knew that anyway.

    btw, our golden haired hero is awesome isn’t he?

  75. dr_robert Says:

    Even with healthy running backs, execution and game circumstance have made quarterback Carson Palmer the Raiders’ most indispensable player.

    Whatever roles Jones and Reece have in the backfield Sunday, any chance the Raiders have of beating the 6-2 Baltimore Ravens on the road rest with Palmer doing what he does best against a team he beat nine times in 13 starts as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals.

    “I don’t fear any quarterback, but I’m always worried when I play Carson Palmer,” Ravens outside linebacker Terrell Suggs said Wednesday by conference call. “We came from the same draft class. We played him at USC when I was at Arizona State, so this guy’s kind of tortured me through all my college and professional career.”

    With McFadden struggling even when healthy, the Raiders have become a pass-first team through necessity.

    Palmer has 2,355 yards passing at the midway point of the season, a pace that would give him a franchise record of 4,710 yards over 16 games. That’s more
    than Rich Gannon’s 4,689 yards in 2002, the year he won the Most Valuable Player award.

    With 13 touchdown passes at the midway point, Palmer is on pace for Gannon’s 26 touchdown passes as well.

  76. dr_robert Says:

    Ravens coach John Harbaugh told reporters in Baltimore Palmer looks much the same as he did with the Bengals when he was beating the Ravens.

    “Some of the same things he did in Cincinnati, he’s doing now,” Harbaugh said. “There’s not a throw he can’t make, and when he’s on, he’s on time. He can really stick it in tight windows. He’s a fearless competitor. You watch him play with a tremendous enthusiasm out there. We’ve got a lot of respect for Carson Palmer.”

  77. mcfadden20. Says:

    LMAO at people saying JC with his measly 175 yards passing and 1 TD a game was more responsible for the wins , then the running game who averaged about the same

  78. dr_robert Says:

    mistic has “exposed” himself

  79. dr_robert Says:

    poor beeech is gonna have to come up with a more appropriate song for the lakers.

    guess that’s really why they call it the blues.

  80. VanHeathen30 Says:

    “radical” as it is,used refers to someone thinking out of the norm…
    In this case, wishing for the back up QB, is the Normal, knee jerk fan reaction.
    What’s “radical” is,thinking that Carson is whole problem, which means these same fans are SATISFIED with 22 yards rushing for a WHOLE FREAKIN’ GAME…
    This is some fuzzy logic at best…

  81. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    You would feel better if it were only me, however there is quickly growing ground swell of disenchanted raider fans that fell for the hype.
    **************
    Please show us these fAns you speak of.
    =============

    scroll through the message board, you will find several posters that have expressed this here.

    try the comments on other sites like silver and black pride or bleacher report

    you can stick you head in the sand and ignore it if you choose, after all its only fan opinion in the end and makes no real difference. that is of course until the tickets stop selling

  82. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, one of my favorite new stripper hook-ups just sent me a text of her in a Raider jersey with BEEEECH DAWG on the back and no panties

    Ahhh yeah, you know the Beeeech Lawg achieved FULL WOOD. That’s 12 inches of intimate passion, holla

    She wants to cruise over right now and hop on the Lawg, but the Beeeech Digs don’t play that

    Gotta lead them hizzies on for a while wet, if you want full cooter moisturization during penetration

    Besides I gots to finish up this episode of Animal Practice

    BIZ MARKIE N THE PLACE 2 B

  83. mcfadden20. Says:

    And don’t forget Gannon enjoyed one of the best pass protection behind those lines, and enjoyed passing to future HOF’s Rice and Brown and pretty good Jerry Porter

  84. dr_robert Says:

    our current qb. the “golden haired hero”, is on pace to throw for the most yards ever by a raider qb, and some moron here spends half of his waking hours trying to convince everyone that he should be benched in favor of a guy with no experience and questionable qb skills.

    aahhh. morons. gotta love ‘em.

  85. mcfadden20. Says:

    Pretty bad O line , no running backs , throwing to guys who can only run couple of routes for the most game and still put up better rating than JC did in 10 , when the D’s know whats coming

  86. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    “radical” as it is,used refers to someone thinking out of the norm…
    In this case, wishing for the back up QB, is the Normal, knee jerk fan reaction.
    What’s “radical” is,thinking that Carson is whole problem, which means these same fans are SATISFIED with 22 yards rushing for a WHOLE FREAKIN’ GAME…
    This is some fuzzy logic at best…
    ===========

    1. no one has claimed palmer “is the only problem”.

    2. it is a comomn practice for teams to sit the incumbent at the end of a losing season to give the youngsters game reps, at all positions. There is ‘radical” or ‘outside the box” about it. it happens every single year in nfl cities.

  87. dr_robert Says:

    miss-dick—-what exactly do u hope to achieve by endlessly touting this “bench palmer for pryor” schtick? do u think we will all change our minds? do u think it will eventually happen, and u will be seen as some sort of guru? it ain’t happening. ur just “exposing” urself as an idiot and troll.

  88. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    poor beeech is gonna have to come up with a more appropriate song for the lakers.

    guess that’s really why they call it the blues.

    ———-

    Sweet! The blog MELTDOWN Machine has arrived and appears ready for another dope tail spin

    Nerd, you tell any of your JV football players yet about your awesome facebook page?

    I bet those Sunnyvale teens would love to learn their assistant coach is a well-worn Blog Punching Bag when he isn’t walking the dog

    WHOOOMP THERE IT IS

  89. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    2. it is a comomn practice for teams to sit the incumbent at the end of a losing season to give the youngsters game reps, at all positions. There is ‘radical” or ‘outside the box” about it. it happens every single year in nfl cities.

    *******************

    first of all, moron, ur thinking of baseball. nfl teams DO NOT sit everyone at all positions to play the youngsters, including qb’s.

    they only sit them if they decide they are moving on, away from their current qb, like minnesota did with mcnabb.

    otherwise, a guy that’s throwing for nearly 5000 yards isn’t going anywhere.

    and it’s NOT THE END OF THE SEASON idiot!!!

  90. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    lol

    the mere suggestion that palmer sits at the end of a losing season is met with a wild frenzy of name calling and venom.

    Even though that is a common practice witnessed every year in almost every major sport no less.

  91. dr_robert Says:

    a little scurvy dog keeps yapping for my attention. but i think it has the mange.

  92. hwnrdr Says:

    Raining down in the Bay! Said it could rain all weekend…oh well…that’s why they call it the blues…lol…but I love the rain! Good drinking weather!!!

  93. mcfadden20. Says:

    Only time Palmer threw more than 2 Int’s 1st game with the Raiders coming into the game after half time after the game was already decided , 2nd game with the Raiders
    , the GB game when our D let couldn’t catch a cold against the Raiders and we went into 2nd quarter down 21 points already ,TB game when our D allowed 3 straight big runs to put our team behind 18 points going into the fourth ,all those circumstances are understandable

  94. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    lol

    the mere suggestion that palmer sits at the end of a losing season is met with a wild frenzy of name calling and venom.

    Even though that is a common practice witnessed every year in almost every major sport no less.

    **************

    boy u sure know how to squirm.

    u have been actively calling for our record setting golden haired hero to be replaced NOW, not at the end of the season.

    and u obviously don’t know sports very well, as it is NOT common practice in every sport to clear the bench at the end of the season.

  95. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    2. it is a comomn practice for teams to sit the incumbent at the end of a losing season to give the youngsters game reps, at all positions. There is ‘radical” or ‘outside the box” about it. it happens every single year in nfl cities.

    *******************

    first of all, moron, ur thinking of baseball. nfl teams DO NOT sit everyone at all positions to play the youngsters, including qb’s.

    they only sit them if they decide they are moving on, away from their current qb, like minnesota did with mcnabb.

    otherwise, a guy that’s throwing for nearly 5000 yards isn’t going anywhere.

    and it’s NOT THE END OF THE SEASON idiot!!!
    ============

    you are calling me an idiot but you clearly cant read.

    I said the last 3-4 games of the season provided we are out of the race.

    that would be the end of the season mr wizard.

    yes football teams do play the youngsters at the end of a losing season.

    You can deny that until you are blue in the face but it doesnt change the fact that it does happen.

    Why is that even worth arguing about?

    hero worship is a strange thing

  96. VanHeathen30 Says:

    If you want to see TP play so bad, go stand outside the practice field in Alameda and watch him run he scout team…
    As for Carson, as long as he’s standing, and healthy enough to play, he’s the Man.
    Can’t see him getting paid to sit if he’s healthy…

  97. dvrick Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Stupidvillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Raiders stinkin it up again this year.We should hire NORV!!!

  98. dr_robert Says:

    miss-dick and the b!tch dog. here to provide idiotic entertainment for the masses.

  99. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    lol

    the mere suggestion that palmer sits at the end of a losing season is met with a wild frenzy of name calling and venom.

    Even though that is a common practice witnessed every year in almost every major sport no less.

    ====================
    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

  100. mcfadden20. Says:

    Palmer put better Qb ratings than JC coming into a team with no offseason, pre-season , no DMAC, than JC did with Dmac , and training camp , pre-season tell me again how was JC responsible for those wins lmao

  101. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Oh Snap!

    My #1 stripper hizzy just SHOWED UP to the Beeech Pad unannounced

    Major no-no, but when she took off that trenchcoat and was wearing her BEEEECH DAWG Raider Jersey (#12 of course for each inch) I took pity

    She’s scrubbing the hot tub in but when she’s done, I’ll let her fix me lunch then, maybe, ride the Lawg

    Until then I gotta try to tune this dang acoustic guitar for the big road trip tomorrow

    If I can’t strum Layla on it my chances of picking up a horny hot hippy hitchhiker goes down exponentially

    KEEPIN’ IT REAL LIKE A TRUE NAVY SEAL

  102. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    lol

    the mere suggestion that palmer sits at the end of a losing season is met with a wild frenzy of name calling and venom.

    Even though that is a common practice witnessed every year in almost every major sport no less.

    **************

    boy u sure know how to squirm.

    u have been actively calling for our record setting golden haired hero to be replaced NOW, not at the end of the season.
    ===============

    where did i say palmer should be “replaced now”?

    guys like you and a few others simply lie and wait for your buddies to back them up.

    produce an actual post from this season that says anything like that.

    what a liar

  103. Seymour Bush Says:

    2. it is a comomn practice for teams to sit the incumbent at the end of a losing season to give the youngsters game reps, at all positions. There is ‘radical” or ‘outside the box” about it. it happens every single year in nfl cities.
    ========================================

    On some levels, yes, that happens but normally with established staffs. That is not going to happen here with a new regime. If things unravel, the staff will continue to prep, play their starters and try to win as many games as possible to build momentum into the next season. That is what modern NFL orgs do, not throw out some scrubs and take the last quarter of the season off.

  104. dvrick Says:

    MistaBrownStains Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    DMAC will never play a full season in his career in Oakland so I’m glad we traded him to Seattle Today!!!!!.

  105. dvrick Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    I’m a-dick and the b!tch dog. here to provide idiotic entertainment for the masses.

  106. mcfadden20. Says:

    Palmer >>> JC .. END OF THE STORY

  107. beechams gay lover Says:

    say fellas, play along with beechy dawg. his stripper mom just came home smelling of love and things get ill fast

  108. dvrick Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    I’m a little scurvy dog keeps yapping for your attention. but i have the mange.

  109. mcfadden20. Says:

    just when some loser didn’t get enough attention he showed up with other id

  110. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    I said the last 3-4 games of the season provided we are out of the race.
    *******************

    well, now ur just a liar. u have spent the last few weeks going on and on about how bad palmer is and how our best chance to win would be to replace him NOW with pryor.

    u have been exposed.

  111. Seymour Bush Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Palmer >>> JC .. END OF THE STORY
    =================================

    mistic > all the rest of you

    I hate to say, but that mistic has you guys debating this ridiculous point ad nauseum for months and years 24/7 makes me give the crown to mistic.

  112. dvrick Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    November 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    DMAC will never play a full season in his career in Oakland so I’m glad we traded him to Seattle Today!!!!!.

  113. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    I said the last 3-4 games of the season provided we are out of the race.
    *******************

    well, now ur just a liar. u have spent the last few weeks going on and on about how bad palmer is and how our best chance to win would be to replace him NOW with pryor.

    u have been exposed.
    ============

    that is a lie

    I have never said that.

  114. dr_robert Says:

    oh fuk—the most feeble poster ever has suddenly appeared. dvrick and his lame re-posts are back. and hey, whaddya know, they’re all about me. i’m beginning to think beeech and sullivan are one and the same.

  115. mcfadden20. Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Palmer >>> JC .. END OF THE STORY
    =================================

    mistic > all the rest of you

    I hate to say, but that mistic has you guys debating this ridiculous point ad nauseum for months and years 24/7 makes me give the crown to mistic.

    —-

    Nope i never talked to him before , it was because you losers didn’t do anything about it for like 2 years now Me and Robert will do some thing and shut him up for good

  116. dr_robert Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

  117. mcfadden20. Says:

    dvrick Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    November 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    DMAC will never play a full season in his career in Oakland so I’m glad we traded him to Seattle Today!!!!!.

    —-

    OK good , now get out of him and play with MCfadden on madden13

  118. MistaBrown Says:

    This blog is a paradise for tr0lls & mental patients/libtards.

  119. Raider4Life209 Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

    ====================

    Give him a sec….he might still be googling it?

  120. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    oh fuk—the most feeble poster ever has suddenly appeared. dvrick and his lame re-posts are back. and hey, whaddya know, they’re all about me. i’m beginning to think beeech and sullivan are one and the same.

    ====
    No point arguing with those idiots, it’s always fun to see Mistic back track from every thing he had said , LMAO , last night was the funniest post ever , when he said JC 175 measily passing yards and average of 1 passing TD , kept D’s honest, which is why the run game was so successful lol

  121. Raider4Life209 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    oh fuk—the most feeble poster ever has suddenly appeared. dvrick and his lame re-posts are back. and hey, whaddya know, they’re all about me. i’m beginning to think beeech and sullivan are one and the same.

    ====
    No point arguing with those idiots, it’s always fun to see Mistic back track from every thing he had said , LMAO , last night was the funniest post ever , when he said JC 175 measily passing yards and average of 1 passing TD , kept D’s honest, which is why the run game was so successful lol
    ====================

    Don’t forget about the Deep pass threat!

  122. hwnrdr Says:

    Looks like Seymour may sit out this week…

  123. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Ah Snap x 5

    Just when I was getting into this hilarious episode of Animal Practice, 2 more smokin’ hot strippers show up at my front door

    All wearing identical #12 jerseys with – you guessed it – my name across the back

    Guess that’s why they call it the blues (NOT)

    Anyway I’ve got them both cleaning up the bathroom, then IF they can make a delicious brunch (want those eggs bene just a LITTLE runny, whut whut), they’ll all get to shine the Lawg with them lipz

    Speaking of my hot hip hop album Wrecks N Effect, I’ll be doing a VIP-Only show at Jer Ne tonight near the TV in the back

    Droppin’ hella hot rhymes, word is already spreading through the Marina

    Send out a Twitter blast, K-Rat

    MO FREAKIN EACH DAY OF THE WEEK

  124. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    oh fuk—the most feeble poster ever has suddenly appeared. dvrick and his lame re-posts are back. and hey, whaddya know, they’re all about me. i’m beginning to think beeech and sullivan are one and the same.

    ====
    No point arguing with those idiots, it’s always fun to see Mistic back track from every thing he had said , LMAO , last night was the funniest post ever , when he said JC 175 measily passing yards and average of 1 passing TD , kept D’s honest, which is why the run game was so successful lol
    ====================

    Don’t forget about the Deep pass threat!

    HAHA deep pass threat , yeah those deep pass completion % , he doesn’t understand that when your running game is one of the best in the league , then the play action works and you have better chance of hitting those deep passes

  125. mcfadden20. Says:

    I guess some one is on Lunch at Wendy’s

  126. inonewordraider Says:

    wait so mistic was insinuating JC was the reason we ran the ball effectively last year? you’re kidding right?

  127. lefty12 Says:

    Seymour-you hit the nail on the head.He owns these guys and they can’t see it.BTW,congratulations right back at you.Tuesday was a great day for this country.Saved it!

  128. R8ER MIKE Says:

    lol… YOU PEOPLE !!!!
    I am out of here. see ya in the a.m. hours !!
    GreenParty rules !!!

    FEAR THE TURTLE !!

  129. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    —-

    Nope i never talked to him before , it was because you losers didn’t do anything about it for like 2 years now Me and Robert will do some thing and shut him up for good
    ……….

    LMAO!!!!! YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.

    Do you really beleive that by joining forces with other trolls that you can impact what or when i will post?!?!?!?!

    This dude thinks he the monkey gleek from the wonder twins or something.

    Bra pack up the under roos and get a life

  130. dr_robert Says:

    u know what? i was just looking at some previous posts.

    mistic has used the word “meltdown” a few times. he also like to say we’re palmer “worshipers”.

    these are two keywords from beeech and sullivan.

    and all of them come after me with other aliases whenever i stick them with a particularly tuff post.

    hmmm.

  131. Raider4Life209 Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    wait so mistic was insinuating JC was the reason we ran the ball effectively last year? you’re kidding right?
    =================
    I believe it was because JC was throwing so effectively that teams keyed in on McFadden less…somethin’ along those lines.

  132. MistaBrown Says:

    Seymour has been out for 3 years.
    _____

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Looks like Seymour may sit out this week…

  133. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: try the comments on other sites like silver and black pride or bleacher report==

    SandBPride, absolutely false. Tricknology run rampant. Bleacher report complete trash long before we got JC, let alone Carson Palmer.

  134. mcfadden20. Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    wait so mistic was insinuating JC was the reason we ran the ball effectively last year? you’re kidding right?

    —-

    HAHAHAH YEAH, Lemme pull that post from yesterday

  135. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Palmer >>> JC .. END OF THE STORY
    =================================

    mistic > all the rest of you

    I hate to say, but that mistic has you guys debating this ridiculous point ad nauseum for months and years 24/7 makes me give the crown to mistic.
    ======================

    Is arguing with Beeech any different?

  136. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    —-

    Nope i never talked to him before , it was because you losers didn’t do anything about it for like 2 years now Me and Robert will do some thing and shut him up for good
    ……….

    LMAO!!!!! YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.

    Do you really beleive that by joining forces with other trolls that you can impact what or when i will post?!?!?!?!

    This dude thinks he the monkey gleek from the wonder twins or something.

    Bra pack up the under roos and get a life

    ********************

    no mistic. mcfadden20 is a youngster. an idealist. he doesn’t realize yet that guys like u, and beeech, and sullivan (and ur many aliases) will NEVER go away. no amount of ridicule or being proven wrong will EVER obliterate u.

    cuz u are here anonymously, and u crave negative attention, and u simply ignore when ur beaten.

    but he has made minced meat out of u.

  137. MistaBrown Says:

    Lefty_LibTard,
    We are inching our way to communism with little baby steps of socialism. Here’s the recipe, first you spend us into debt we cant recover from, then you put people out of work and on govt assistance, then govt has control of all the people. Starting to look familiar, right?

    Remember that 5 years from now when you dont recognize this country.
    ______

    lefty12 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Seymour-you hit the nail on the head.He owns these guys and they can’t see it.BTW,congratulations right back at you.Tuesday was a great day for this country.Saved it!

  138. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    this has been my google search for Raider news/last 24 hours/no Bleacher report for over two years now.
    http://www.google.com/search?q=oakland+raiders+-Bleacher&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1024&bih=626&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=LyEKULrnJ4WnrQGt06XJCg&ved=0CCEQpwUoAg

  139. inonewordraider Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    Lefty_LibTard,
    We are inching our way to communism with little baby steps of socialism. Here’s the recipe, first you spend us into debt we cant recover from, then you put people out of work and on govt assistance, then govt has control of all the people. Starting to look familiar, right?

    Remember that 5 years from now when you dont recognize this country.
    _____________
    you say it like it’s a bad thing

  140. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic :
    we disagree, i believ that because jc had made our recivers a threat and the deep ball was always in play the defense couldnt just key on dmac.

    Now teams gear up to stop the run forcing palmer to pass knowing he will turn it over

    ^^^^^ READ THAT UP AND ENJOY A GOOD LAUGH , what’s also funny is he used We, i have never seen any one agree with your Mistic , where did we come from ?

  141. lefty12 Says:

    Knowing right wing nutcase tea-baggers like you will be totally miserable for the next 4 years at the minimum is one of the greatest feelings a rational human being can feel.What clowns like you never understand is calling us liberals is a badge of honor.I loved the landslide.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  142. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Palmer >>> JC .. END OF THE STORY
    =================================

    mistic > all the rest of you

    I hate to say, but that mistic has you guys debating this ridiculous point ad nauseum for months and years 24/7 makes me give the crown to mistic.
    ======================

    Is arguing with Beeech any different?


    Exactly and atleast we keep it football , instead of gay talk

  143. inonewordraider Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    Knowing right wing nutcase tea-baggers like you will be totally miserable for the next 4 years at the minimum is one of the greatest feelings a rational human being can feel.What clowns like you never understand is calling us liberals is a badge of honor.I loved the landslide.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    __________________________
    number of latino voters will increase, older voters will pass on and the younger voters overwhelmingly voting democrat. The future is bright!

  144. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    We are inching our way to communism with little baby steps of socialism
    ————————-
    If you were informed, or had ever been anywhere, you’d know America is the most Capitalistic deregulated economy in the world.

  145. mcfadden20. Says:

    Here’s the entire post by Mistic , Enjoy guys

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 7th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 7th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Nobody is taking anything away from JC< but every one say that our running game which was way stronger than our passing game contributed more to the wins

    3-8 when running back went under 100 yards
    9-2 when RB went over 100 yards
    =============

    we disagree, i believ that because jc had made our recivers a threat and the deep ball was always in play the defense couldnt just key on dmac.

    Now teams gear up to stop the run forcing palmer to pass knowing he will turn it over

  146. Raider4Life209 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Palmer >>> JC .. END OF THE STORY
    =================================

    mistic > all the rest of you

    I hate to say, but that mistic has you guys debating this ridiculous point ad nauseum for months and years 24/7 makes me give the crown to mistic.
    ======================

    Is arguing with Beeech any different?


    Exactly and atleast we keep it football , instead of gay talk
    —————-
    I may be new in these parts, but I’ve certainly been paying attention.

  147. lefty12 Says:

    BTW,it was one of your heros big Dick Cheney who proclaimed the national debt doesn’t matter when he and Howdy Doodie were running this country into the ground,starting 2 wars and NEVER even attempting to find a way to pay for them.The debt only became a problem for you wing-nuts after we elected a Democratic President.Not only are you delusional,you are also a hypocrite.

  148. KoolKell Says:

    Exactly Lefty #147

  149. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    KoolKell Says: If you were informed, or had ever been anywhere, you’d know America is the most Capitalistic deregulated economy in the world.===================

    The International Man of Mystery is in the house.

  150. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    We are inching our way to communism with little baby steps of socialism
    ————————-
    If you were informed, or had ever been anywhere, you’d know America is the most Capitalistic deregulated economy in the world.

    ———-

    You mean like the Serengeti Plains?

  151. Raider4Life209 Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

    ====================

    I’m disappointed. Mistic left without answering my question.

  152. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    More tricknology from the vast white wing conspiracy. And Rant Sports hates the Raiders! Rant Sports-59 minutes ago
    The clear cut MVP for the Oakland Raiders has to be Carson Palmer. The quarterback has done almost everything for this team and has largely done it without much support from his cast of characters.

  153. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

    ====================

    I’m disappointed. Mistic left without answering my question.

    ======

    HE will come back when all this is forgotten

  154. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    This dude is my biggest fan, even re posts my takes.

    I dont care if you cats team up,its expected

  155. dr_robert Says:

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

    ====================

    I’m disappointed. Mistic left without answering my question.
    *******************

    what a surprise.

  156. oakfoshow Says:

    If ya smeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllaaaaa what Barak is cookin.

  157. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic made me dig deep into Palmer – JC stats, can’t wait to see him again

  158. Plunketthead Says:

    Ouch! Another strike on Lana lame Kiffen.
    Team manager caught deflating balls

    On another note
    Petrino to Kentucky?
    oh please. please let that happen

  159. dr_robert Says:

    oh boy–miss-dick has gone the way of beeech. he’s claiming people are his fans or that he owns people, cux they destroyed him. twisted fuks.

  160. oakfoshow Says:

    I liked Jason C. also,but he couldnt lace Palmers cleats.

  161. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    This dude is my biggest fan, even re posts my takes.

    I dont care if you cats team up,its expected

    —–

    Just wanted to share a little laugh all of us , it’s funny you said we disagree in that post , who’s we? lol only guy who disagree on that in the world is just you

  162. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I dont care if you cats team up,its expected================================

    I’ve teamed up with and backed up no-one. Remember you and Priest getting very cozy, ‘teaming up’ if you will. Or are you running scy-ops right now?

  163. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    oh boy–miss-dick has gone the way of beeech. he’s claiming people are his fans or that he owns people, cux they destroyed him. twisted fuks.

    ========

    They got so many common things in their posts ..
    makes you wonder

    hmmmmmmm..

  164. oakfoshow Says:

    Lets all hurry up and talk football now before RaiderDick shows up and tells us how we will be great for years with D.A. and bottom lip.

  165. mcfadden20. Says:

    Palmer >>>> Carson , Overall body of work proves it no matter how you twist and turn and bring up the wins lol

  166. oakfoshow Says:

    Ive never seen a new post last this long without RaiderDick telling us how great we are with this new zoneblocking scheme.

  167. mcfadden20. Says:

    LOL

    i mean Palmer >>>> Campbell ^^^^^*****

  168. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Ive never seen a new post last this long without RaiderDick telling us how great we are with this new zoneblocking scheme.

    —-
    It will take a while , Houston didn’t start running over people right away with Gary Kubiak

  169. oakfoshow Says:

    The only thing im exited about in this weeks game is the potental of T.Jones big opportunity.I hope he breaks out so we can send Mcfaggen down the road.

  170. mcfadden20. Says:

    You guys are seriously defending last years team ? the same team in which a guy who came to the team in Mid-Season (CP3) played better than all the guys who been on it through Training camp , spring training , full season , in the most important game of the year week 17

  171. oakfoshow Says:

    It will take a while , Houston didn’t start running over people right away with Gary Kubiak

    Didnt take us a while to have a top 10 offense last year with a powerblocking scheme.Dont want hear its gonna take a while because thats total bllsht.

  172. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

    ====================

    I’m disappointed. Mistic left without answering my question.

    ======

    HE will come back when all this is forgotten
    =====================

    why exclude ponder? this has happened in many nfl cities and in many different years.

    mcnabb out ponder in

    gmckown out jamarcuss in

    detmer out mcnabb in

    george out culpepper in

    plunk out wilson in

    orton out tebow in

    hart out lomax in

    Johnson out vick in

    flutie out johnson in

    macmahon out, fuller in

    blakw out smith in

    esiason out klingler in

    pete out ware in

    this list could go on forever and span across several decades.

    not sure why you want to argue over this being an accepted commomn practice but documented history makes you look foolish

  173. mcfadden20. Says:

    why exclude ponder? this has happened in many nfl cities and in many different years.

    mcnabb out ponder in

    gmckown out jamarcuss in

    detmer out mcnabb in

    george out culpepper in

    plunk out wilson in

    orton out tebow in

    hart out lomax in

    Johnson out vick in

    flutie out johnson in

    macmahon out, fuller in

    blakw out smith in

    esiason out klingler in

    pete out ware in

    this list could go on forever and span across several decades.

    not sure why you want to argue over this being an accepted commomn practice but documented history makes you look foolish

    —–
    Not many on those list who ever made it to the PB, so your point is mute

  174. Plunketthead Says:

    We get to watch the QB of the future tonight.
    I will take the home dog straight up

  175. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    This dude is my biggest fan, even re posts my takes.

    I dont care if you cats team up,its expected

    —–

    Just wanted to share a little laugh all of us , it’s funny you said we disagree in that post , who’s we? lol only guy who disagree on that in the world is just you
    ==========

    lol reading and comprehension are not your strong suits are they?

    we as the person i was disagreeing with and myself

    “we disagree”

    too funny

  176. mcfadden20. Says:

    He asked you last year Mistic , with the exception of Ponder , who else was benched in favor of their back ups?>

  177. oakfoshow Says:

    168.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Ive never seen a new post last this long without RaiderDick telling us how great we are with this new zoneblocking scheme.

    —-
    It will take a while , Houston didn’t start running over people right away with Gary Kubiak

    ================================================= Yea cause Houston has won a whole lot of playoff games and championships.Weeeew I feel better.Thanks. lol…

  178. dr_robert Says:

    Oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    I liked Jason C. also,but he couldnt lace Palmers cleats.

    ************

    but he could shine ‘em though.

    it was too easy. a daily dose of racism. u know. just for fun.

  179. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    why exclude ponder? this has happened in many nfl cities and in many different years.

    mcnabb out ponder in

    gmckown out jamarcuss in

    detmer out mcnabb in

    george out culpepper in

    plunk out wilson in

    orton out tebow in

    hart out lomax in

    Johnson out vick in

    flutie out johnson in

    macmahon out, fuller in

    blakw out smith in

    esiason out klingler in

    pete out ware in

    this list could go on forever and span across several decades.

    not sure why you want to argue over this being an accepted commomn practice but documented history makes you look foolish

    —–
    Not many on those list who ever made it to the PB, so your point is mute
    ==========

    the probowl was not a criteria in the discussion mac doofus

    the word is moot not mute

    this cat is a retard

  180. mcfadden20. Says:

    why exclude ponder? this has happened in many nfl cities and in many different years.

    mcnabb out ponder in

    gmckown out jamarcuss in

    detmer out mcnabb in

    george out culpepper in

    plunk out wilson in

    orton out tebow in

    hart out lomax in

    Johnson out vick in

    flutie out johnson in

    macmahon out, fuller in

    blakw out smith in

    esiason out klingler in

    pete out ware in

    this list could go on forever and span across several decades.

    not sure why you want to argue over this being an accepted commomn practice but documented history makes you look foolish

    What’s so funny?, you made it sound like a lot of people are on your side on that, when you will never ever have any sensible guy agree with you that Jc was the reason our running game was pretty good , quit with your Agenda already you lost , give up

  181. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    168.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Ive never seen a new post last this long without RaiderDick telling us how great we are with this new zoneblocking scheme.

    —-
    It will take a while , Houston didn’t start running over people right away with Gary Kubiak

    ================================================= Yea cause Houston has won a whole lot of playoff games and championships.Weeeew I feel better.Thanks. lol…


    Yeah dumb ass they made the playoffs last year, and 6-1 this year , what a fag

  182. oakfoshow Says:

    178.dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    I liked Jason C. also,but he couldnt lace Palmers cleats.

    ************

    but he could shine ‘em though.

    it was too easy. a daily dose of racism. u know. just for fun.

    UT OH,now you did it.Here come all the illegal immigrants telling you how wrong that was.Just ask them for their greencards and they will go away.

  183. dr_robert Says:

    miss-dick. yes, dummy we are all aware that over the history of the nfl, there have been qb’s who supplanted other qb’s. his question was, besides ponder (who u hilariously thought he wanted to exclude, but he was saying we already were aware of his case), what other young qb’s were played at the end of a losing season. ur the one who said it was “commonplace” for teams to do so, like they were baseball teams looking at prospects.

    cmon miss-dick. what young qb’s took over at the end of losing years for established veterans LAST YEAR?

  184. mcfadden20. Says:

    Houston’s ZBS is the best in the league, they beat Ravens in the playoffs without A Foster , with 3rd string QB, so open your eyes first before you open your mouth

  185. oakfoshow Says:

    Yeah dumb ass they made the playoffs last year, and 6-1 this year , what a fag

    WOW,im impressed.How many years has it been now moron?

  186. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    He asked you last year Mistic , with the exception of Ponder , who else was benched in favor of their back ups?>
    ==========

    the question is irrelavant to the subject, the practice is long standing and cant be isolated to one season

    but you can also add orton and tebow to that mix

  187. oakfoshow Says:

    184.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Houston’s ZBS is the best in the league, they beat Ravens in the playoffs without A Foster , with 3rd string QB, so open your eyes first before you open your mouth

    Where did they end up last year with that terrific zone bllsht? Oh yea,at the house.You stupid bastrd!!

  188. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    miss-dick. yes, dummy we are all aware that over the history of the nfl, there have been qb’s who supplanted other qb’s. his question was, besides ponder (who u hilariously thought he wanted to exclude, but he was saying we already were aware of his case), what other young qb’s were played at the end of a losing season. ur the one who said it was “commonplace” for teams to do so, like they were baseball teams looking at prospects.

    cmon miss-dick. what young qb’s took over at the end of losing years for established veterans LAST YEAR?

    —-

    yet he tells me reading and comprehension are not my strong suits and he gets exposed for the same thing

  189. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    184.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Houston’s ZBS is the best in the league, they beat Ravens in the playoffs without A Foster , with 3rd string QB, so open your eyes first before you open your mouth

    Where did they end up last year with that terrific zone bllsht? Oh yea,at the house.You stupid bastrd!!

    —-

    You fukhead , it’s still considered a big milestone to beat Ravens , with out your starting QB and Starting RB , i’m pretty sure they would have made it further had both qb and rbs been healthy, have you watched them this year? unstoppable Running game

  190. oakfoshow Says:

    184.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Houston’s ZBS is the best in the league, they beat Ravens in the playoffs without A Foster , with 3rd string QB, so open your eyes first before you open your mouth

    I thought we were the Oakland Raiders.I thought our head coach was Dennis Allen.Go to the fkn houston Texans jackka$$!! They havent done any fkn thing with the great zone scheme.

  191. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    jake locker also got onto the field last year in relief of hasselbeck a few times last year, both for injury and performance issues.

    Again though not sure why you cats are obsessing over that

  192. mcfadden20. Says:

    You don’t sub a guy who’s putting up 85 Rating with no running game and no freakin receivers to throw too behind a shaky Oline , if he totally sh1t the bed , then you do that , otherwise there’s no point

  193. oakfoshow Says:

    The Houston Texans!! AAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.How many playoff wins do they have again?? LOL. Fkn idiot.Go buy a Foster jersey.

  194. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    john skelton also replaced derek anderson

  195. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    184.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Houston’s ZBS is the best in the league, they beat Ravens in the playoffs without A Foster , with 3rd string QB, so open your eyes first before you open your mouth

    I thought we were the Oakland Raiders.I thought our head coach was Dennis Allen.Go to the fkn houston Texans jackka$$!! They havent done any fkn thing with the great zone scheme.

    ====

    I’m trying to make a point here , which your shallow mind won’t accept, It takes a while to get the ZBS going , They’re a unstoppable force with ZBS the past 2 years, If you can beat Ravens with ur 3rd string qb and back up running back , then you got a good O, now fuk and leave the football talk to people who understand it

  196. Plunketthead Says:

    Hard to believe the luck of the horseshoes. I have a feeling Luck will be great in playoffs unlike Peyton.

  197. mcfadden20. Says:

    Oakfoshow is another fag in the same category Mistic and Beech are

  198. mcfadden20. Says:

    All those Qb’s who got replaced are no where near the level of CP , so get over it

  199. oakfoshow Says:

    I’m trying to make a point here , which your shallow mind won’t accept, It takes a while to get the ZBS going , They’re a unstoppable force with ZBS the past 2 years, If you can beat Ravens with ur 3rd string qb and back up running back , then you got a good O, now fuk and leave the football talk to people who understand it

    Unstoppable force? Show me the playoff wins.You cant.Zoneblocking sucks and so does waiting for it to come around.Do you understnad that football genious?

  200. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    sitting starters in losing seasons is a widely accepted norm and has been for well forever.

    That may upset your hero worship, but it is the plain truth

  201. oakfoshow Says:

    197.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Oakfoshow is another fag in the same category Mistic and Beech are

    But I would snap your neck unlike the guys you just mentioned little pssy.

  202. dr_robert Says:

    2011 teams with losing records and their finishing qb situations:

    wash: grossman NOT beck or banks
    min: ponder OVER mcnabb
    car: newton
    tb: freeman
    sea: t.jackson NOT whitehurst
    stl: bradford
    mia: henne
    buf: fitzpatrick NOT thigpen
    cle: mccoy
    jax: gabbert
    ind: orlovsky NOT painter
    kc: cassel NOT palko

    soooo…………looks like ONE team shelved their veteran for their rookie, and that happened midseason.

    u have been EXPOSED!

  203. oakfoshow Says:

    The Houston Texans..JEEEEEEEZ. what a fkn doucebag idiot.

  204. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    I’m trying to make a point here , which your shallow mind won’t accept, It takes a while to get the ZBS going , They’re a unstoppable force with ZBS the past 2 years, If you can beat Ravens with ur 3rd string qb and back up running back , then you got a good O, now fuk and leave the football talk to people who understand it

    Unstoppable force? Show me the playoff wins.You cant.Zoneblocking sucks and so does waiting for it to come around.Do you understnad that football genious?

    —–

    You fag ass, like i said , putting up points against Ravens , without starting Qb and starting RB , was a huge thing , it happened in the playoffs of all the places, and obviously no team goes that far with 3rd string qb’s , Do pats win any of those 3 Lombardis with their 3rd string qb, or Pitts without Ben or NYG without ELi , so stfu you pi3ce of trash

  205. theghostronin79 Says:

    186.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    He asked you last year Mistic , with the exception of Ponder , who else was benched in favor of their back ups?>
    ==========

    the question is irrelavant to the subject, the practice is long standing and cant be isolated to one season

    but you can also add orton and tebow to that mix

    ============

    Yeah, you can’t just say “Last season” and call it good.
    I may be mistaken but didn’t Rivers Take over mid season for SD? (That could have been injury enduced).

    Been rumors about Foles, taking over Vick’s spot…

    Think even Jamarcus Russell took over with 2 games left in his rookie season…

    Colt McCoy…over Feurotte?

    Jake Locker …..over Hasslebeck?

    Andy Dalton….over Palmer?

    Bruce Gradkowski….over Russell?

  206. theghostronin79 Says:

    Colt McCoy…over Feurotte?

    I meant Delhome….Durrr

  207. oakfoshow Says:

    Lets all go buy Matt Shaub jersey’s.

  208. dr_robert Says:

    miss-dick—-u said sitting veteran qb’s in order to see what youngsters have is COMMON practice in the nfl during losing seasons.

    it happened ONCE last year.

    EXPOSED

  209. Seymour Bush Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    BTW,it was one of your heros big Dick Cheney who proclaimed the national debt doesn’t matter when he and Howdy Doodie were running this country into the ground,starting 2 wars and NEVER even attempting to find a way to pay for them.The debt only became a problem for you wing-nuts after we elected a Democratic President.Not only are you delusional,you are also a hypocrite.
    ======================================

    This is exactly right. Instead of hatred, and slogans, and who yells the LOUDEST, this election became people, ideas, direction, dedication.

    The conservatives our WELL on their way to becoming completely irrelvant. I love the right wing right now saying they have to court the latino vote. Like translating “corporations are people” and “10% tax rate for Mitt, 35% for you” into Spanish is going to help.

  210. Plunketthead Says:

    The Boots have drafted for defense for over 6 years now. That has been their long and short term plan = stop peyton manning or they will never win the division

    They have spent and drafted Offense much less over the years. Somehow that O has turned out to be great.

    ZBS is best for Oakland in the long run. If we were a larger market, made more money then go for PBS

  211. mcfadden20. Says:

    Oakfoshow now wants to see a ZBS succeed with a 3rd string Qb and back up RB starting, I can’t pull many stats where a team won a championship with their back up Qb in any scheme , yet he wants to see a ZBS win under those circumstances

  212. dr_robert Says:

    it only happens when a veteran is struggling and they decide to go with the young guy FOR GOOD.

    this isn’t baseball, where prospects get called up and given a look.

    palmer is on pace for a record setting year, moron. he’s not being set down to see what pryor can do.

  213. oakfoshow Says:

    —–

    You fag ass, like i said , putting up points against Ravens , without starting Qb and starting RB , was a huge thing , it happened in the playoffs of all the places, and obviously no team goes that far with 3rd string qb’s , Do pats win any of those 3 Lombardis with their 3rd string qb, or Pitts without Ben or NYG without ELi , so stfu you pi3ce of trash

    AH,alot of teams beat the Ravens moron.Like they are some kind of fkn fantastic playoff team or something.Dumbest football fans in the world are this blog.STILL.

  214. dr_robert Says:

    zbs is best blocking scheme in football. it has changed the game in the same way the WCO did. or cover 2. duh.

  215. oakfoshow Says:

    211.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Oakfoshow now wants to see a ZBS succeed with a 3rd string Qb and back up RB starting, I can’t pull many stats where a team won a championship with their back up Qb in any scheme , yet he wants to see a ZBS win under those circumstances

    We have played 8 games already with a 1st string rb.Whats our record again? Where do we rank in rushing compared to last year.Oh yea,straight at the bottom.

  216. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    —–

    You fag ass, like i said , putting up points against Ravens , without starting Qb and starting RB , was a huge thing , it happened in the playoffs of all the places, and obviously no team goes that far with 3rd string qb’s , Do pats win any of those 3 Lombardis with their 3rd string qb, or Pitts without Ben or NYG without ELi , so stfu you pi3ce of trash

    AH,alot of teams beat the Ravens moron.Like they are some kind of fkn fantastic playoff team or something.Dumbest football fans in the world are this blog.STILL.

    —-

    Last year is the year when they really picked up on the ZBS and their O was top 5 , I’m pretty sure they would have went further if their QB and RB were healthy , and they have picked up right where they left off from last year, 6-1 Record, O clicking on all cylinder, Most of the experts have predicted Houston to win it all

  217. oakfoshow Says:

    214.dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    zbs is best blocking scheme in football. it has changed the game in the same way the WCO did. or cover 2. duh.

    No it hasnt.

  218. Plunketthead Says:

    Keep CP3 for a couple years and then maybe we can aqquire Bradford or Cutler or Newton or one of the other washed up QB’s of the future to manage our awesome plug and play anyone ZBS scheme

    Because our D will shut people down and get takeaways after we spend the next three drafting playmakers on D
    If that doesnt work = plan B = ten and then

  219. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    211.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Oakfoshow now wants to see a ZBS succeed with a 3rd string Qb and back up RB starting, I can’t pull many stats where a team won a championship with their back up Qb in any scheme , yet he wants to see a ZBS win under those circumstances

    We have played 8 games already with a 1st string rb.Whats our record again? Where do we rank in rushing compared to last year.Oh yea,straight at the bottom.

    Are you fukin stupid or what, i have told you that it takes awhile for ZBS to work , and i gave you the example of Houston team , they struggled their first couple of years with it , then picked up last year and became the top 5 and doing the same thing this year

  220. oakfoshow Says:

    Last year is the year when they really picked up on the ZBS and their O was top 5 , I’m pretty sure they would have went further if their QB and RB were healthy , and they have picked up right where they left off from last year, 6-1 Record, O clicking on all cylinder, Most of the experts have predicted Houston to win it all

    Keep listening to the experts.

  221. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    2011 teams with losing records and their finishing qb situations:

    wash: grossman NOT beck or banks
    min: ponder OVER mcnabb
    car: newton
    tb: freeman
    sea: t.jackson NOT whitehurst
    stl: bradford
    mia: henne
    buf: fitzpatrick NOT thigpen
    cle: mccoy
    jax: gabbert
    ind: orlovsky NOT painter
    kc: cassel NOT palko

    soooo…………looks like ONE team shelved their veteran for their rookie, and that happened midseason.

    u have been EXPOSED!
    =======

    lol you are desperate arent you?

    it has been a comomn practice to sit starters on losing teams.

    This has happened forever in the nfl and just posted a sample list that goes back to the 80’s

    If you are trying to pigeon hole the discussion to some assigned timetable of last year it would then ignore the other 90 or so years that this practice has been in play.

    I said it is a common practice, my statement is in reference to the entire history of the nfl, not based on last year independently

    Also it isnt limited to just “rookies’. rookie was in our discussion specifically because we have pryor, essentially a rookie.

  222. oakfoshow Says:

    Are you fukin stupid or what, i have told you that it takes awhile for ZBS to work , and i gave you the example of Houston team , they struggled their first couple of years with it , then picked up last year and became the top 5 and doing the same thing this year

    GO BUY A FKN TEXANS JERSEY LITTLE MAN!!IT takes a while.omg.

  223. mcfadden20. Says:

    ZBS takes time, in the long run is good scheme , because you can even find a gem in late draft picks or even an undrafted RB (FOSter) you don’t have to pay big time money to OL to make it work or big names, Houston let go Briesel and Winston but they didn’t skip a beat , so all that money can be spent on other parts of the team

  224. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    it only happens when a veteran is struggling and they decide to go with the young guy FOR GOOD.
    ============

    that isnt so either

    plenty of teams have pulled the plug or shut down starters played the guy behind them only to come back to the starter the following season, and sometimes in the same season they were sat down in the first place

  225. oakfoshow Says:

    Thats what Tom Cable said.Were is that fat fk now.2 years of pure zone blocking.0 playoff games.

  226. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Are you fukin stupid or what, i have told you that it takes awhile for ZBS to work , and i gave you the example of Houston team , they struggled their first couple of years with it , then picked up last year and became the top 5 and doing the same thing this year

    GO BUY A FKN TEXANS JERSEY LITTLE MAN!!IT takes a while.omg.

    —-

    Why won’t you go follow HUE and become a Bengals fan , ZBS is here to stay and it will stay here for long time so get over it

  227. C2E Says:

    227 yea

  228. oakfoshow Says:

    223.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    ZBS takes time, in the long run is good scheme , because you can even find a gem in late draft picks or even an undrafted RB (FOSter) you don’t have to pay big time money to OL to make it work or big names, Houston let go Briesel and Winston but they didn’t skip a beat , so all that money can be spent on other parts of the team

    And Houston has not done JACK SHT!!! GET it through your head bud.

  229. Seymour Bush Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    186.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    He asked you last year Mistic , with the exception of Ponder , who else was benched in favor of their back ups?>
    ==========

    the question is irrelavant to the subject, the practice is long standing and cant be isolated to one season

    but you can also add orton and tebow to that mix

    ============

    Yeah, you can’t just say “Last season” and call it good.
    I may be mistaken but didn’t Rivers Take over mid season for SD? (That could have been injury enduced).

    Been rumors about Foles, taking over Vick’s spot…

    Think even Jamarcus Russell took over with 2 games left in his rookie season…

    Colt McCoy…over Feurotte?

    Jake Locker …..over Hasslebeck?

    Andy Dalton….over Palmer?

    Bruce Gradkowski….over Russell?
    =========================================

    Historically you can go back and find guys that came in for struggling players and never came out. Tony Romo comes to mind. Romo was undrafted didn’t see a lot of playing time and probably never would have been an NFL player if Quincy Carter didn’t hit the rock pipe. The Cowboys brought in Bledsoe, he struggled, so they put Romo in the second half of a MNF game, I think,and he has played very well for them. But that ain’t happening here.

  230. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Thats what Tom Cable said.Were is that fat fk now.2 years of pure zone blocking.0 playoff games.

    ——
    Because Al D decided to go a different way after he put up the best Raider record in 6-7 years

  231. oakfoshow Says:

    Why won’t you go follow HUE and become a Bengals fan , ZBS is here to stay and it will stay here for long time so get over it

    No.IT will be long gone after this year just like Allen,Knapp,and the bottom lip retard.

  232. oakfoshow Says:

    Because Al D decided to go a different way after he put up the best Raider record in 6-7 years

    Yep,went a different way and had a top 10 offense all year.Nothing you can say can change that.

  233. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Why won’t you go follow HUE and become a Bengals fan , ZBS is here to stay and it will stay here for long time so get over it

    No.IT will be long gone after this year just like Allen,Knapp,and the bottom lip retard.

    —-
    It will be here to stay for sure , just watch

  234. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Because Al D decided to go a different way after he put up the best Raider record in 6-7 years

    Yep,went a different way and had a top 10 offense all year.Nothing you can say can change that.

    —-

    Yeah and the same record 8-8, and went 1-4 in final 5 games,, all they needed was week 17 win

  235. oakfoshow Says:

    There is no way Mark Davis will keep these idiot around,so you might as well go buy a Texans jersey.

  236. oakfoshow Says:

    234.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Because Al D decided to go a different way after he put up the best Raider record in 6-7 years

    Yep,went a different way and had a top 10 offense all year.Nothing you can say can change that.

    —-

    Yeah and the same record 8-8, and went 1-4 in final 5 games,, all they needed was week 17 win

    Are you or are you not the guy who just talked about all the starters going down in Houston? What the fk do you call what happened to us last year???

  237. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: not sure why you want to argue over this being an accepted commomn practice but documented history makes you look foolish=============

    I thought you told us documented history was either A: No longer a viable way of assessing ‘wave of the future’ QB’s, or,B: Barely concealed racist behavior by the good ole boy mentality that prevents blacks from
    QBing at top universities and consequentially minimizing their chances for success in the NFL. So, history, even decades old, is now supporting your argument? You got a cheat sheet or some crib notes we could work off?

  238. theghostronin79 Says:

    224.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    it only happens when a veteran is struggling and they decide to go with the young guy FOR GOOD.
    ============

    that isnt so either

    plenty of teams have pulled the plug or shut down starters played the guy behind them only to come back to the starter the following season, and sometimes in the same season they were sat down in the first place

    ==============

    Quinn over Cassel comes to mind…

  239. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    There is no way Mark Davis will keep these idiot around,so you might as well go buy a Texans jersey.

    ———-

    I will support whatever scheme they bring in ,They all have their pro’s and con’s but you seem to wanna follow PBS , so just go follow another team

  240. Raider8 Says:

    People keep pulling the Texans out of their azz in talking about how the ZBS is this great scheme.

    It’s just like saying all 6th round draft picks have a great chance of being multiple SB winning QB’s. After all, look at Tom Brady.

  241. mcfadden20. Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    234.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    oakfoshow Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Because Al D decided to go a different way after he put up the best Raider record in 6-7 years

    Yep,went a different way and had a top 10 offense all year.Nothing you can say can change that.

    —-

    Yeah and the same record 8-8, and went 1-4 in final 5 games,, all they needed was week 17 win

    Are you or are you not the guy who just talked about all the starters going down in Houston? What the fk do you call what happened to us last year???

    —-
    Yeah and i think it’s a huge accomplishment to run all over Ravens of all the teams , with a 3rd string qb and and a backup RB, we couldn’t run over anybody with a back up RB in PBS

  242. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    Would you guys quit saying fag ass. It’s hard to ignore Beeech when he’s here, but when he’s not I

  243. mcfadden20. Says:

    ZBS when all linemen are on same page, you can pretty much stick any guy at RB and they will be successful , in PBS you need a talented RB , who was probably a high Draft pick or some one who cost a lot of money in FA to be successful

  244. Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:

    prefer not to be reminded of him.

  245. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Think it’s time for some mid-term grading of our 2012 Oakland Raiders. Too time consuming to go into individual player grading – but let’s try for an overview, shall we ?

    OVERALL GRADE: D
    The 3-5 record might not be much of a surprise, but fans of the team have to be disappointed in the performance nonetheless.

    The 0-2 start within the division served to dash our hopes very early, and the complete disappearance of any semblance of a running game has been a huge disappointment. Playoff hopes are extremely unrealistic, but more importantly, 2012 doesn’t appear to have the makings of a season to build upon.

    COACHING: D-
    Tits Allen is off to a less than auspicious start. The Krapp hiring was an early warning sign, and this staff appears to be in over it’s head. Quick to make changes to existing schemes that were working – slow to make changes and adjustments to strategies that aren’t. Questionable use of making the most of the roster available or maximizing player production. The reduction in penalties and Tarver’s revamping of the defensive scheme whilst scrambling to overcome a depleted secondary is all that prevents me from giving the coaching staff an F.

    I’m extremely disappointed with what I’ve seen so far. It’s not just the record or the slow start. I need to see evidence this team is moving in the right direction in the second half of 2012. Frankly, I’m not optimistic about that happening.

    Do not see this squad winning more than 5 games.

    Seems like we were just eagerly awaiting the start of the 2012 season and now it’s half way done. Time passes quickly, as does life, gentlemen.

  246. dr_robert Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    2011 teams with losing records and their finishing qb situations:

    wash: grossman NOT beck or banks
    min: ponder OVER mcnabb
    car: newton
    tb: freeman
    sea: t.jackson NOT whitehurst
    stl: bradford
    mia: henne
    buf: fitzpatrick NOT thigpen
    cle: mccoy
    jax: gabbert
    ind: orlovsky NOT painter
    kc: cassel NOT palko

    soooo…………looks like ONE team shelved their veteran for their rookie, and that happened midseason.

    u have been EXPOSED!
    =======

    lol you are desperate arent you?

    it has been a comomn practice to sit starters on losing teams.

    This has happened forever in the nfl and just posted a sample list that goes back to the 80’s

    If you are trying to pigeon hole the discussion to some assigned timetable of last year it would then ignore the other 90 or so years that this practice has been in play.

    I said it is a common practice, my statement is in reference to the entire history of the nfl, not based on last year independently

    Also it isnt limited to just “rookies’. rookie was in our discussion specifically because we have pryor, essentially a rookie.

    *********************

    LOL! i just PORVED u wrong and ur still dancing.

    of course, over history, there have been qb’s who replaced other qb’s. u said it was COMMON for teams with losing records at the end of the year to sit down veterans and see what their young players have. like they do in baseball. i just showed u that it happened ONCE last year, and it happened midseason (ponder).

    it is NOT COMMON to sit down veteran starting qb’s who are in the plans for the future to see what the 3rd stringer is made of. that’s what preseason is for.

    u are simply WRONG and won’t admit it.

    name other positions on the field that this COMMON practice happens!

    u can’t do it can u?

    there is simply NO WAY that the raiders will sit down a qb that is on a record setting pace, in order to give the 3rd stringer, who has dubious nfl qb abilities, a chance to prove himself.

    JUST ADMIT UR WRONG.

  247. dr_robert Says:

    according to mistic, these players will play the final quarter of the season:

    pryor over palmer
    parsons over carlisle
    nix over brisiel
    ausberry over myers
    streeter over moore
    criner overdhb
    bilukidi over kelly
    bryant over seymour
    crawford over houston
    goethel over mcclain
    clayton over wheeler
    mitchell over branch
    admas over bartell
    lee over huff

    because, u know, it’s COMON practice to play the youngsters and sit the starters in the last few games of a losing season.

    LOL!

  248. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeech, is this you in the yellow suit surrounded by Spearmint Rhino girls?

    http://www.fhm.com/images/media/fckimgs/image/rico-connor-las-vegas.jpg

  249. Plunketthead Says:

    Unreal what Lane has now done to the once proud men of troy

    caught cheating twice, deflating footballs and jersey shuffling against colorado, I said colorado. I dont think they havbe won a game all year

    FIRE LANCE at usc
    HIRE PETRINO and give him a Kentucky woman

  250. DJ Johnny Says:

    Not to be insensitive but just curious.

    If this were Dennis Allen (1st yr. coach just like Pagano) and he had a dreaded disease, would the national media coverage even come close? Would Jaworski wear a “DennisStrong” t-shirt on national tv?

    Would anybody besides us really even care?

    I wish Pagano the best and a full recovery, (even tho i’ve always disliked the guy for his anti-Raider comments) so that’s not my point in asking this.

  251. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Raider4Life209 Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Out of curiosity, which NFL teams supplanted their starting QB (with exception to Ponder) at the end of a losing season last year? Pure curiosity, that’s all.

    ********************

    and……game.

    ====================

    I’m disappointed. Mistic left without answering my question.

    ======

    HE will come back when all this is forgotten
    =====================

    why exclude ponder? this has happened in many nfl cities and in many different years.

    mcnabb out ponder in

    gmckown out jamarcuss in

    detmer out mcnabb in

    george out culpepper in

    plunk out wilson in

    orton out tebow in

    hart out lomax in

    Johnson out vick in

    flutie out johnson in

    macmahon out, fuller in

    blakw out smith in

    esiason out klingler in

    pete out ware in

    this list could go on forever and span across several decades.

    not sure why you want to argue over this being an accepted commomn practice but documented history makes you look foolish

    ——————-

    I specifically asked about last season. 2011 to be precise.

  252. Raider4Life209 Says:

    Of course backups come in, that’s what there for. But your argument is that once the season is ‘LOST’, they ‘Commonly’ replace the starter.

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