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Palmer and Suggs go way back

Try though he may, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs just can’t escape Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer, when you think it might be Palmer the one trying to get away from Suggs.
They played against each other their entire college careers, Palmer and USC and Suggs at Arizona State. Palmer went No. 1 overall in the 2003 NFL draft to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Ravens selected Suggs with the 10th pick.
Palmer faced Suggs and the Ravens 13 times from 2004-10 — Palmer didn’t play his rookie season — with Palmer beating the Ravens nine times.
“This guy has kind of tortured me through all my college and professional career,” Suggs said in a conference call with Bay Area media Wednesday. “I’m very aware of the talent. I know he can make every throw. If you ask me, he’s very highly underrated. He’s definitely one of the premier quarterbacks in the league.”
Suggs said he doesn’t fear any quarterback, yet “I’m always worried when I play Carson Palmer.”
With good reason, too. Palmer won those nine games against Suggs and the Ravens while having only three passes intercepted. The Ravens intercepted Palmer eight times in the four games they beat Palmer.
Ravens coach John Harbaugh also is quite impressed with the Palmer that he coached against the past five seasons.
“First of all, he’s real smart,” Harbaugh said. “He’s done a great job of reading coverages and knowing where to go with the ball; that’s No. 1. Number two, he’s got this incredible arm. He can make every throw. He’s kind of a fearless competitor. Stands in there tough and he puts it in there, and that’s pretty much the criteria for a great quarterback.”
Suggs is one of the guys Palmer always takes into account whenever he plays the Ravens. That Suggs is playing this season comes as somewhat of a surprise, given he ruptured his Achilles during the offseason.
“It’s amazing he is playing,” Palmer said. “I remember when it happened, I remember thinking, ‘Alright, great, that sucks for Terrell, but he’ll be out by the time we get out in Baltimore.’ Sure enough, he was playing 2 or 3 weeks ago against Houston.
“That’s the type of guy he is. He’s an extremely hard worker. He’s going to come back early, and just when you doubt him, he proves people wrong. I played against him for 15 years now, a phenomenal football player, phenomenal against the pass and phenomenal against the pass–there aren’t a lot of guys who are good at both, like he is. I don’t know if there is another one, as good as he is, at playing them both.”

– The Raiders last played the Ravens in 2008, when JaMarcus Russell was the quarterback, Justin Fargas the primary running back, Javon Walker a starting receiver and so on.
Much has changed in the past three seasons. Yet, one thing remains constant, in Suggs’ opinion.
“Talent,” Suggs said. “Al (Davis) has always done a tremendous job of bringing in the biggest and the scariest guys. They always had tremendous talent, but what (they) have done over there is just stack the talent a little bit more. (They) definitely got weapons that Carson can work with.”
Of the 53 players on Oakland’s roster that day, Oct. 26, 2008, only eight remain on today’s roster, including two that started that game: guard Cooper Carlisle and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.
The six other players still wearing a Raiders uniform now are: punter Shane Lechler, kicker Sebastian Janikowski, long-snapper Jon Condo, running back Darren McFadden, free safety Michael Huff and strong safety Tyvon Branch.

– The Ravens last lost a regular-season home game late in the 2010 season. Their streak has reached an NFL-best 14 straight regular-season home victories, including a 4-0 mark this season.
To that end, Harbaugh said, the Ravens take the field with an air about them, knowing that good things happen when they play in front of their own fans.
“There is probably a confidence level with that, because we’ve had some positive experiences,” Harbaugh said. “There’s been a lot of big games and tough games in that, that just kind of set that tone a little bit. But every game stands on its own two feet.”
That last sentence is what the Raiders are counting upon, that the previous 14 wins by the Ravens at their place don’t count for much when the Raiders play there Sunday.

– Allen reiterated that he isn’t prepared to make a determination on the status of injured players McFadden, running back Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour until after practice Friday.
None of those three practiced today. Allen said McFadden and Goodson are wearing protective boots as a result of their high-ankle sprains.
Coincidentally, rookie Jeremy Stewart said he is preparing this week as if he is going to be signed from the practice squad and activated for Sunday’s game.
“Yeah, they said it’s a possibility,” Stewart said. “They basically told me to be ready, and we’ll see what happens.”
Stewart said he has taken a similar approach since he signed with the Raiders.
“You have to approach every day like you’re going to be the guy starting. So, since I’ve gotten here I’ve been preparing for my opportunity. So, if it presents itself this weekend, I’ll be ready.”
He rushed for 257 yards on only 55 carries his final season at Stanford. He also scored 10 touchdowns on 62 touches that season.
“I feel like I’m a good finisher,” Stewart said. “I can find the end zone.”
Taiwan Jones and Marcel Reece are splitting the reps in practice this week. Like Palmer, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said he is eager to see what Jones can do in a game.
“Pure speed, it’s one of the fastest I’ve been around,” Knapp said of Jones, “because he has that ability to burst and separate right away. That trait is not coachable, so he does have that ability to separate real fast which is a unique quality to have.”
Knapp said injuries suffered by Jones this season cost him some valuable practice time, which set him back in terms of getting down his assignments on each play. Ball-security issues also are a concern.

– Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said he feels pretty good in his return from a groin injury. Yet, he doesn’t sound overly optimistic about playing Sunday.
“Obviously I’ve got some kinks to get out, but you’ll get those out the more you’re on the field,” Barnes said. “Each day that goes by, the more familiar I get with stuff, the muscle memory starts coming back, and that’s how I’m approaching it.”
Barnes said he feels as if he needs more time to get back up to speed. That’s understandable considering he didn’t practice for more than seven weeks after suffering a groin injury that required surgery.
Allen said Barnes, Willie Smith and Tony Bergstrom are taking reps at right offensive tackle in practice this week. It’s possible that Allen will announce the starter for the Ravens game as soon as Friday.

– Michael Huff is going to remain at cornerback for the Ravens game, Allen said.
Ron Bartell is expected to be activated Saturday and play Sunday for the first time since he suffered a shoulder injury in the regular-season opener.
Allen said the plan is to play Bartell as much as Bartell can handle. With Bartell and Huff at cornerback, that likely means less playing time for Pat Lee and Phillip Adams.

– Allen said Seymour was in no shape to practice Thursday, that Seymour “couldn’t practice today if he had to.”
That means Desmond Bryant, Lamaar Houston and Christo Bilukidi might be in for more playing time inside if Seymour isn’t healthy enough to play Sunday. Dave Tollefson is another player that can move inside for a few downs here and there, if needed.

– The Raiders burned one of their 14 allotted practices in pads Wednesday, Allen said. They did so as a means of working on tackling on the heels of a lackluster performance against the Buccaneers.

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  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    T-Sizzle talking up CP3 gives me a bad feeling about this game.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Hopefully CP3 will end B-More’s home win streak!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Trade Taiwan Jones for some gatorade to keep D.Bryant hydrated!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Sign Napolean Kaufman!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    A.Curry Will bring the “passion” and ignite the defense.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Put L. Houston at running back. Refridgerator Perry style.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Sign Eddie Anderson!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Brandon Meyers is a pleasent surprise.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 6:29 am
    This blog gets insane sometimes. But at least it is entertaining. It’s better than debating the merits of Knapp and the ZBS over and over.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I rather talk about Knapp and how he failed to take advantage of the talent on offense.
    DMAC
    DHB
    Reece (I know, he has as many receiving yards/ game, but I was hoping to see him mite involved and get more carries after losing Bush in FA)

    Damn you Knapp!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Torrey smith 151 yards recieving this week??

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Hit Flacco and hit him hard!
    We can beat Tyrod Taylor.

    Who names there kid after a car part lol?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:30 am
    Brandon Meyers is a pleasent surprise.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It depends on how you look at it.
    Throwing the ball to our TE who can’t get YAC?!
    Why not use DHB or Reece who can get YAC and the 1st down.

    Eff you Knapp.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    I say we should use some misdirection plays on offense to have some hope.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Raider O Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:30 am
    Brandon Meyers is a pleasent surprise.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It depends on how you look at it.
    Throwing the ball to our TE who can’t get YAC?!
    Why not use DHB or Reece who can get YAC and the 1st down.

    Eff you Knapp.
    ——————-
    To be specific I don’t think Myters is special. I had little or no faith in him having a productive year. Let’s say the bar was really low, so he easily exceeded my expectations. At least he does get open and more often that not hold onto the ball.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Palmer is awesome he can beat Baltimore if our D can hold them to under 30 points.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Btw, I don’t blame Mistic for his live for black QBs. I would be cheering my a$$ off for an Arab/ American football player (if they can find one).

    I like:
    Black QBs!
    White WRs, RBs, and DBs!
    I like Asian basketball Players!

    Go Minorities!!!!

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Meyers is fine he doesn’t have to be special just a chain mover let D Moore and Jacoby Ford be special.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Palmer is awesome he can beat Baltimore if our D can hold them to under 30 points.
    ———————
    Yes and yes.
    I can see Palmer having the exact same outing as last week. Everything from furious comeback to lots of yards to untimely picks. I’m hoping for the best.

    Maybe just maybe Tarver slapped around the defense this week and lit a fire under them about not wanting to have another RB break record on there defense again.

    Maybe Curry will bring the scripture and motivate.

  • R8ER MIKE

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    I wonder if we will see Bergstrom this week?

  • R8ER MIKE

    O !! whats good today Mr V.P. ??

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:42 am
    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!
    ——————-
    Going to the game?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    To be specific I don’t think Myters is special. I had little or no faith in him having a productive year. Let’s say the bar was really low, so he easily exceeded my expectations. At least he does get open and more often that not hold onto the ball.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Same here. I thought TE was one of the weak spots on the team.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Baltimore defense has given up this many points all year

    Week 1 13 points to Cin
    Week 2 24 to Phily
    Week 3 30 to NE
    Week 4 16 to Cleve
    Week 5 9 to KC
    Week 6 29 to Dallas
    Week 7 43 to Houston
    Week 8 Bye week
    Week 9 RAIDERS!

    Home teams favored coming off a bye week have covered the spread 97% of the time in the last 5 years.

    Come on Raiders buck the trend!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    ODB!!!
    Good morning my brother, Green Party, and Nation.

    Reading some of the crap those turd monkeys posted last night and LMAO.
    Those turd monkeys are crazy.

    What’s up with you?

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Is it me or do we seem to face teams coming off a bye at least 3 times so far this year? Just sayin.

  • Dakota

    Jezuz, this place looked like a mess last night. Can’t we jest get back to talking about the middle east?

  • Dakota

    *just*

  • R8ER MIKE

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:42 am
    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!
    ——————-
    Going to the game?

    ******************
    had tickets and was all set to go, but have to drive the wife to Cleveland for a funeral.

  • R8ER MIKE

    doing good O. just perking and working !!!
    glad it Friday but not looking foward to the
    dirve to Ohio in the morning.

  • R8ER MIKE

    Reading some of the crap those turd monkeys posted last night and LMAO.
    Those turd monkeys are crazy.

    *-***************************
    agree some of those guys are nucking futs !! lol lol

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:42 am
    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!
    ——————-
    Going to the game?

    ******************
    had tickets and was all set to go, but have to drive the wife to Cleveland for a funeral.

    ————————–
    sorry to hear that.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:01 am
    Reading some of the crap those turd monkeys posted last night and LMAO.
    Those turd monkeys are crazy.

    *-***************************
    agree some of those guys are nucking futs !! lol lol
    ——————-
    I was just reading last nights comments as well and have to say those guys have lost there mind! lol

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    ODB,

    Try not to destroy our wildlife (especially deer) with your Camry. lol

  • R8ER MIKE

    lol .. but thats the only way i hunt !! lol lol

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Dakota Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:55 am
    Jezuz, this place looked like a mess last night. Can’t we jest get back to talking about the middle east?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Fakers must not be doing too good.
    LOL @ the Fakers.

    Faker Hater for life!

  • Dakota

    536.Raider O Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:15 am
    Dakota Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:55 am
    Jezuz, this place looked like a mess last night. Can’t we jest get back to talking about the middle east?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Fakers must not be doing too good.
    LOL @ the Fakers.

    Faker Hater for life!

    ++++++++++++++++++

    I will have you deported.

  • inonewordraider

    wow beaners baboons and i’m racist because i’m not sold on tp6, what the hell is goin on in here

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Deported?
    Excellent idea.
    Do you know how much those tickets cost?
    Btw, does that include a few air meals?

  • R8ER MIKE

    careful O ,
    he might deport you to Michigan !! lol lol lol

  • mcfadden20.

    Some one mentioned B-More is coming off a bye week , so i was like wtf 4th week in a row ? we’re going to get killed, so then checked the schedule , Baltimore played Cleveland last week.. feel much better now

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    LMAO ODB!

    Never!
    Still LOL

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 5:08 am
    Without any competant RB’s….
    ======================================
    Taiwan is a more competent at RB than Slo is at LB.

    I predict that Taiwan is going to have a very good game.

    I predict that after Sunday, many of the posters here who have been ridiculing Mr. Jones – are going to be asking why it took til our 9th game for TJ to get on the field. I’m not buying that injury kept him off the field this entire time as I’ve seen him do well on ST. I believe he was unfairly placed in Tit’s and Krapp’s doghouse as a result of week 1 – and that this was a mistake and an example of Tits and Krapp not getting everything possible out of the roster.

    I had Taiwan as my MUP this year and still think very highly of him. My faith in him has not waivered a bit.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:49 am

    Baltimore defense has given up this many points all year

    Week 1 13 points to Cin
    Week 2 24 to Phily
    Week 3 30 to NE
    Week 4 16 to Cleve
    Week 5 9 to KC
    Week 6 29 to Dallas
    Week 7 43 to Houston
    Week 8 Bye week
    Week 9 RAIDERS!

    Home teams favored coming off a bye week have covered the spread 97% of the time in the last 5 years.

    Come on Raiders buck the trend!
    ===================================

    They played Cleveland last week. Just ask Jamista Clown.

  • inonewordraider

    is our d deflated after last week or are we gonna come back swinging? If we aren’t ready to fight for 60 mins, ray rice will have 150yds plus on us. Who’s taking Torrey Smith? Gio better not blow any more help coverage…

  • inonewordraider

    Taiwan is a more competent at RB than Slo is at LB.

    I predict that Taiwan is going to have a very good game.

    I predict that after Sunday, many of the posters here who have been ridiculing Mr. Jones – are going to be asking why it took til our 9th game for TJ to get on the field. I’m not buying that injury kept him off the field this entire time as I’ve seen him do well on ST. I believe he was unfairly placed in Tit’s and Krapp’s doghouse as a result of week 1 – and that this was a mistake and an example of Tits and Krapp not getting everything possible out of the roster.

    I had Taiwan as my MUP this year and still think very highly of him. My faith in him has not waivered a bit.
    ______________
    he may be better than dmac in this system, and he can take it to the house on any handoff. he is however a liability in the pass rush, our oline needs to play their best game this week barnes/bergs will help

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    is our d deflated after last week or are we gonna come back swinging?
    =================================

    Our defense played well last week in the lst half and when they had to, they made a crucial stop and gave the ball back to the O to win it. I’m sure they will be ready to go.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “They played Cleveland last week. Just ask Jamista Clown.”

    Yes you are right I missed that thanks for pointing that out.

    Is Brownstains off of suicide watch yet after losing the election?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Is Brownstains off of suicide watch yet after losing the election?
    ==========================================

    don’t know. Maybe someone should go under the bridge where he lives and see if he is hanging from the I beams.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Good morning people,..heres my 4 team parlay I did at Mont Bleu,..Im going for my 5th win of the year,..a 60 dollar card pays 780 bucks,..sweet deal…heres my card:

    SF -11.5
    Dallas -1.5
    Denver -3.5
    Seattle -5.5 (Seattle my lock of the week)

    As far as Oakland goes, with Seymour and DMC both done for the year I see hope, both those players were holding the team back,…but Oakland still loses handily, likely by 24…then a major blowout loss at home to the Saints,…Im fine with keeping the losses coming,…with that, along with the Niners going to the Superbowl, Mark will be pressured to scrap this terrible McKenzie experiment, bring Jon and Bruce back here where they belong,.and its not out of the question because Amy wants it bad, and will threaten to go if he doesnt go along,..Mark is a clueless dude, needs her,…anyway, any of you want to join Brien and I at our tailgate next week youre welcome, cya then.