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Palmer and Suggs go way back

Try though he may, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs just can’t escape Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer, when you think it might be Palmer the one trying to get away from Suggs.
They played against each other their entire college careers, Palmer and USC and Suggs at Arizona State. Palmer went No. 1 overall in the 2003 NFL draft to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Ravens selected Suggs with the 10th pick.
Palmer faced Suggs and the Ravens 13 times from 2004-10 — Palmer didn’t play his rookie season — with Palmer beating the Ravens nine times.
“This guy has kind of tortured me through all my college and professional career,” Suggs said in a conference call with Bay Area media Wednesday. “I’m very aware of the talent. I know he can make every throw. If you ask me, he’s very highly underrated. He’s definitely one of the premier quarterbacks in the league.”
Suggs said he doesn’t fear any quarterback, yet “I’m always worried when I play Carson Palmer.”
With good reason, too. Palmer won those nine games against Suggs and the Ravens while having only three passes intercepted. The Ravens intercepted Palmer eight times in the four games they beat Palmer.
Ravens coach John Harbaugh also is quite impressed with the Palmer that he coached against the past five seasons.
“First of all, he’s real smart,” Harbaugh said. “He’s done a great job of reading coverages and knowing where to go with the ball; that’s No. 1. Number two, he’s got this incredible arm. He can make every throw. He’s kind of a fearless competitor. Stands in there tough and he puts it in there, and that’s pretty much the criteria for a great quarterback.”
Suggs is one of the guys Palmer always takes into account whenever he plays the Ravens. That Suggs is playing this season comes as somewhat of a surprise, given he ruptured his Achilles during the offseason.
“It’s amazing he is playing,” Palmer said. “I remember when it happened, I remember thinking, ‘Alright, great, that sucks for Terrell, but he’ll be out by the time we get out in Baltimore.’ Sure enough, he was playing 2 or 3 weeks ago against Houston.
“That’s the type of guy he is. He’s an extremely hard worker. He’s going to come back early, and just when you doubt him, he proves people wrong. I played against him for 15 years now, a phenomenal football player, phenomenal against the pass and phenomenal against the pass–there aren’t a lot of guys who are good at both, like he is. I don’t know if there is another one, as good as he is, at playing them both.”

– The Raiders last played the Ravens in 2008, when JaMarcus Russell was the quarterback, Justin Fargas the primary running back, Javon Walker a starting receiver and so on.
Much has changed in the past three seasons. Yet, one thing remains constant, in Suggs’ opinion.
“Talent,” Suggs said. “Al (Davis) has always done a tremendous job of bringing in the biggest and the scariest guys. They always had tremendous talent, but what (they) have done over there is just stack the talent a little bit more. (They) definitely got weapons that Carson can work with.”
Of the 53 players on Oakland’s roster that day, Oct. 26, 2008, only eight remain on today’s roster, including two that started that game: guard Cooper Carlisle and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.
The six other players still wearing a Raiders uniform now are: punter Shane Lechler, kicker Sebastian Janikowski, long-snapper Jon Condo, running back Darren McFadden, free safety Michael Huff and strong safety Tyvon Branch.

– The Ravens last lost a regular-season home game late in the 2010 season. Their streak has reached an NFL-best 14 straight regular-season home victories, including a 4-0 mark this season.
To that end, Harbaugh said, the Ravens take the field with an air about them, knowing that good things happen when they play in front of their own fans.
“There is probably a confidence level with that, because we’ve had some positive experiences,” Harbaugh said. “There’s been a lot of big games and tough games in that, that just kind of set that tone a little bit. But every game stands on its own two feet.”
That last sentence is what the Raiders are counting upon, that the previous 14 wins by the Ravens at their place don’t count for much when the Raiders play there Sunday.

– Allen reiterated that he isn’t prepared to make a determination on the status of injured players McFadden, running back Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour until after practice Friday.
None of those three practiced today. Allen said McFadden and Goodson are wearing protective boots as a result of their high-ankle sprains.
Coincidentally, rookie Jeremy Stewart said he is preparing this week as if he is going to be signed from the practice squad and activated for Sunday’s game.
“Yeah, they said it’s a possibility,” Stewart said. “They basically told me to be ready, and we’ll see what happens.”
Stewart said he has taken a similar approach since he signed with the Raiders.
“You have to approach every day like you’re going to be the guy starting. So, since I’ve gotten here I’ve been preparing for my opportunity. So, if it presents itself this weekend, I’ll be ready.”
He rushed for 257 yards on only 55 carries his final season at Stanford. He also scored 10 touchdowns on 62 touches that season.
“I feel like I’m a good finisher,” Stewart said. “I can find the end zone.”
Taiwan Jones and Marcel Reece are splitting the reps in practice this week. Like Palmer, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said he is eager to see what Jones can do in a game.
“Pure speed, it’s one of the fastest I’ve been around,” Knapp said of Jones, “because he has that ability to burst and separate right away. That trait is not coachable, so he does have that ability to separate real fast which is a unique quality to have.”
Knapp said injuries suffered by Jones this season cost him some valuable practice time, which set him back in terms of getting down his assignments on each play. Ball-security issues also are a concern.

– Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said he feels pretty good in his return from a groin injury. Yet, he doesn’t sound overly optimistic about playing Sunday.
“Obviously I’ve got some kinks to get out, but you’ll get those out the more you’re on the field,” Barnes said. “Each day that goes by, the more familiar I get with stuff, the muscle memory starts coming back, and that’s how I’m approaching it.”
Barnes said he feels as if he needs more time to get back up to speed. That’s understandable considering he didn’t practice for more than seven weeks after suffering a groin injury that required surgery.
Allen said Barnes, Willie Smith and Tony Bergstrom are taking reps at right offensive tackle in practice this week. It’s possible that Allen will announce the starter for the Ravens game as soon as Friday.

– Michael Huff is going to remain at cornerback for the Ravens game, Allen said.
Ron Bartell is expected to be activated Saturday and play Sunday for the first time since he suffered a shoulder injury in the regular-season opener.
Allen said the plan is to play Bartell as much as Bartell can handle. With Bartell and Huff at cornerback, that likely means less playing time for Pat Lee and Phillip Adams.

– Allen said Seymour was in no shape to practice Thursday, that Seymour “couldn’t practice today if he had to.”
That means Desmond Bryant, Lamaar Houston and Christo Bilukidi might be in for more playing time inside if Seymour isn’t healthy enough to play Sunday. Dave Tollefson is another player that can move inside for a few downs here and there, if needed.

– The Raiders burned one of their 14 allotted practices in pads Wednesday, Allen said. They did so as a means of working on tackling on the heels of a lackluster performance against the Buccaneers.

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  • RAIDERMAN99

    This Sunday’s game will tell us a lot about the Raids.

    This Sunday’s game is going to tell us whether this team has any HEART.

    The Ravens like to intimidate and ‘out physical’ teams.

    Not just on defense (that unit is clearly down a notch or two) but on offense as well.

    I still remember clearly our last visit to Baltimore.

    The Raids got their azzes kicked. Not just on the scoreboard, but in every way imaginable. Whupped.

    JLH’S backwards scramble to get out of bounds and avoid getting hit on a punt return was one of the most gutless displays I’ve ever seen by a Raider.

    I hope we can win on Sunday, but I’ll accept it if we’re outgunned by a well rested Raven team at home.

    What I will not be able to accept is if this team gets intimidated and doesn’t slug it out with Harbaugh’s boys.

    Time to man up.

  • RaiderLen

    Morning Fellas,

    Appears as though someone trolled my account last night.

    For the record…Non of those posts were mine.

    Crazy shiiit.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Len,

    So you are not Asian?
    LOL

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    LMAO at whoever hijacked the board last night that is some funny shlt.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    RAIDERMAN99 if Ahmadinejad bombed Baltimore could we beat the Ravens the next day in a half ruined stadium?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Dakota,

    I forgot to ask you yesterday. Why is Israel allowed to have nukes but not Iran? Pakistan has nukes.

  • RaiderLen

    Raider O Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:21 am
    Len,

    So you are not Asian?
    LOL
    ——————————————-
    If so, I never got the memo…lol

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Raider O Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Dakota,

    I forgot to ask you yesterday. Why is Israel allowed to have nukes but not Iran? Pakistan has nukes.

    ===========================================

    Because only our friends are allowed to have nukes. Never the countries we don’t like.

    And we wonder why people see us as arrogant…

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    666,

    You sure you are not Arab?
    LOL
    Nuke them all! EFF it.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    LOL Len.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Because only our friends are allowed to have nukes. Never the countries we don’t like.

    And we wonder why people see us as arrogant…”

    LMFAO this is so true!

    Way to call it like it is.

    The government is warped, they can kill people and send young men to war to kill people, but you better not decide to kill anyone if you do the government will sentence you to death….and they wonder why there is such a low value on human life by society today…

  • Dan78

    Meltdown Highlight of the night:

    dr_robert Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Dumb azz Kell. I was trying to defend u earlier. Then I tell bronco’s racist azz that I would kick him in the balls and u come at me?

    The hamster keeping the nachos cheesy.lol….

  • RaiderLen

    If it’s true that you are what you eat, then for the record…I’m a ……….Cow.

    Moooo…. biatches!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    RaiderDuck Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Raider O Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Dakota,

    I forgot to ask you yesterday. Why is Israel allowed to have nukes but not Iran? Pakistan has nukes.

    ===========================================

    Because only our friends are allowed to have nukes. Never the countries we don’t like.

    And we wonder why people see us as arrogant…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We used them on Japan, and we get to decide who can develop them.
    I always thought that’s arrogant, and the UN should be more involved and not us.
    But hey, how can we continue to spend on military to protect our CORPs without being the world’s police?

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “666,

    You sure you are not Arab?
    LOL
    Nuke them all! EFF it.”

    I used to buy and sell oil and other commodities, my brothers wife is Persian so I would call his in-laws every week to get a head start on when Iran would place restrictions on how much oil they would export. (this has a huge effect on the price of a barrel of oil at times)

    its totally legal by the way no Martha Stewart shlt happening there.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    This is one of the funnier posts last night:

    “Raider Jonesin Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
    This place has cesspool all over it. No wonder Raider players don’t participate here anymore. And don’t be surprised when enough complaints by Raider management are filed with IBA that they decide to shut this blog down. I’m just giving you guys a heads up.”

    This poor newbie thinks that the behavior on the blog last night was an isolated event and not a daily occurrence here.

    That made me laugh

  • DMAC

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

  • DMAC

    What up Green Party!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Good morning Mr. Prez. I see you got involved yesterday. You couldn’t help yourself.

  • DMAC

    Raider O Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Good morning Mr. Prez. I see you got involved yesterday. You couldn’t help yourself.
    ========

    Involved in what?
    A smoke out?
    yes

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    puff puff pass…

  • MiamiRaider78

    Green Party Rules!

    Good morning gentleman!

    Any news out of Raider land other than what we know? I know theres a few Schefters in here.

    Keep em lit!

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    What about Routt no one has picked him up yet he is in Detroit today LOL

    Turd!

  • RAIDERMAN99

    I forgot to ask you yesterday. Why is Israel allowed to have nukes but not Iran? Pakistan has nukes.
    ==================================================
    Doesn’t it give you a nice warm feeling knowing Pakistan has nukes ?

    Wouldn’t it have been nice if Israel didn’t take out Saddam’s Osirak nuclear reactor ?

    Wouldn’t it be nice if Israel didn’t destroy Assad’s nuclear ambitions in Syria ?

    North Korea having nukes is a good thing too.

    It is blatantly unfair and hypocritical for any nuclear armed nation to tell any other nation that it shouldn’t have nukes.

    Nuclear weapons in the hands of hostile and unstable governments is just something we’re going to have to accept in the interest of being fair.

    Nuclear proliferation is actually something we should encourage.

    Have to be fair at all costs.

  • DMAC

    Yes, we’re in the East coast for our next game, but the Ravens are a beatable team.
    Hope the troopers come go to war Sunday.
    Raiders win 24-21

  • inonewordraider

    mike brown fired

  • inonewordraider

    get phil jackson or jerry sloan on the phone, NOW!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate. yesterday was disgusting, and sadly it is just another in a very long line of shameful behavior in here.

    There are youth that log on to this site and it is unfair to them especially.

    As you can see there is no such thing as a raider nation free from bigotry, racism or white supremacy. If there were such a thing you will find no evidence of it here.

    Some are overt, , some have been repeatedly exposed like for their true feelings about black people yet they try and be more subtle.

    It is clear from reading this thread alone that just the mention of a black man in leadership is not only unaccepted but hated to the bone. even leading a football team as a qb is an eyesore to many here, even though football and sports in general are meaningless. that is why the mention of newton vick tp6 or james harris quickly causes the board to disintegrate into a frenzy of race baiting and under handed hate. you dont have to be an art major to connect the dots on this, picture is clear as day.

    Dont be upset with for holding a mirror but this is your ugly reflection so called raider nation.

    You sit by and dont take these people to task for their reprehensible actions, neither do the blog moderators.

    These continue day after day, unchecked and free. doing nothing, failing to call them out makes you an accessory to the crime. You are either cowards or that is who you truly are, and it would not surprise me one bit.

  • 2romes

    If Allen and Knapp can keep the game close leading into the 3rd quarter I like the Raiders chances to win this game.Many times A Ravens/Raiders game is lost before the begining of the 2nd half either by the high score of a Raven team or the stranglehold the Ravens put on our offense.

  • eastoaklandraider

    LOL LAKERS FIRE COACH!!!

  • boss01

    If Phil comes back…its over…book championship #17

  • MiamiRaider78

    About time fat Urkel wasn’t doing a good job!

  • boss01

    Kobe fired Mike Brown

  • DMAC

    Kobe got Romeo Brown fired!
    lol

  • MiamiRaider78

    Mike Brown and his offensive approach to this team got him fired.

  • DKnight007

    Brown should have never been hired in the 1st place!

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate. yesterday was disgusting, and sadly it is just another in a very long line of shameful behavior in here.

    ============================================

    Whenever I see someone hijacking MY handle, I report it to Jon and Steve immediately. As for the racism and hatred in here: TPTB are obviously aware of it and choose to do nothing. Not much I can do about that. I still enjoy this community, warts and all.

  • MiamiRaider78

    586

    Exactly.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    LOL Mike Brown…You know what bothered me most? he never closed his mouth. Is he breathing through the mouth all the time?

  • DMAC

    GO DUBS!
    Can’t wait to for the Faker ass kicking 2nite!

  • Dakota

    Shut up….really? Is there a Brown out in LA???? Then we may just see some light!

    Woot!

  • DKnight007

    Dubs kickin the Lake show azz? Never!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    If the Raiders remember to play football in the 3rd quarter. so far this year, they haven’t.

  • boss01

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Mike Brown and his offensive approach to this team got him fired.
    ————–

    They weren’t exactly a juggernaut defensively either

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    raiderduck,

    how do you report people here, is there an email?

  • Dakota

    Lakers hire Stan Van? lmao

  • eastoaklandraider

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate. yesterday was disgusting, and sadly it is just another in a very long line of shameful behavior in here.

    There are youth that log on to this site and it is unfair to them especially.

    As you can see there is no such thing as a raider nation free from bigotry, racism or white supremacy. If there were such a thing you will find no evidence of it here.

    Some are overt, , some have been repeatedly exposed like for their true feelings about black people yet they try and be more subtle.

    It is clear from reading this thread alone that just the mention of a black man in leadership is not only unaccepted but hated to the bone. even leading a football team as a qb is an eyesore to many here, even though football and sports in general are meaningless. that is why the mention of newton vick tp6 or james harris quickly causes the board to disintegrate into a frenzy of race baiting and under handed hate. you dont have to be an art major to connect the dots on this, picture is clear as day.

    Dont be upset with for holding a mirror but this is your ugly reflection so called raider nation.

    You sit by and dont take these people to task for their reprehensible actions, neither do the blog moderators.

    These continue day after day, unchecked and free. doing nothing, failing to call them out makes you an accessory to the crime. You are either cowards or that is who you truly are, and it would not surprise me one bit.
    ———————–

    Its a fcking BLOG, does this schit really bother you THAT much does this blog consume that much of your life? if not you shouldnt care so much who cares about some racist fags hiding behind there cpu’s. I’m black and I could care less because I have more important things to worry about than some blog and I would think that you do too seeing that you own a business and all. Some of you folks take this blog too serious black and white.

  • Dakota

    If they re-hire Phil or get Sloan, we are going to win the next 3 titles.

    GOOOOO LAKERS!

  • DMAC

    Lakers hire Bill Walton for head coach!

  • boss01

    As long as they don’t hire D’Antonio they got a shot