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Palmer and Suggs go way back

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, November 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Try though he may, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs just can’t escape Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer, when you think it might be Palmer the one trying to get away from Suggs.
They played against each other their entire college careers, Palmer and USC and Suggs at Arizona State. Palmer went No. 1 overall in the 2003 NFL draft to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Ravens selected Suggs with the 10th pick.
Palmer faced Suggs and the Ravens 13 times from 2004-10 — Palmer didn’t play his rookie season — with Palmer beating the Ravens nine times.
“This guy has kind of tortured me through all my college and professional career,” Suggs said in a conference call with Bay Area media Wednesday. “I’m very aware of the talent. I know he can make every throw. If you ask me, he’s very highly underrated. He’s definitely one of the premier quarterbacks in the league.”
Suggs said he doesn’t fear any quarterback, yet “I’m always worried when I play Carson Palmer.”
With good reason, too. Palmer won those nine games against Suggs and the Ravens while having only three passes intercepted. The Ravens intercepted Palmer eight times in the four games they beat Palmer.
Ravens coach John Harbaugh also is quite impressed with the Palmer that he coached against the past five seasons.
“First of all, he’s real smart,” Harbaugh said. “He’s done a great job of reading coverages and knowing where to go with the ball; that’s No. 1. Number two, he’s got this incredible arm. He can make every throw. He’s kind of a fearless competitor. Stands in there tough and he puts it in there, and that’s pretty much the criteria for a great quarterback.”
Suggs is one of the guys Palmer always takes into account whenever he plays the Ravens. That Suggs is playing this season comes as somewhat of a surprise, given he ruptured his Achilles during the offseason.
“It’s amazing he is playing,” Palmer said. “I remember when it happened, I remember thinking, ‘Alright, great, that sucks for Terrell, but he’ll be out by the time we get out in Baltimore.’ Sure enough, he was playing 2 or 3 weeks ago against Houston.
“That’s the type of guy he is. He’s an extremely hard worker. He’s going to come back early, and just when you doubt him, he proves people wrong. I played against him for 15 years now, a phenomenal football player, phenomenal against the pass and phenomenal against the pass–there aren’t a lot of guys who are good at both, like he is. I don’t know if there is another one, as good as he is, at playing them both.”

– The Raiders last played the Ravens in 2008, when JaMarcus Russell was the quarterback, Justin Fargas the primary running back, Javon Walker a starting receiver and so on.
Much has changed in the past three seasons. Yet, one thing remains constant, in Suggs’ opinion.
“Talent,” Suggs said. “Al (Davis) has always done a tremendous job of bringing in the biggest and the scariest guys. They always had tremendous talent, but what (they) have done over there is just stack the talent a little bit more. (They) definitely got weapons that Carson can work with.”
Of the 53 players on Oakland’s roster that day, Oct. 26, 2008, only eight remain on today’s roster, including two that started that game: guard Cooper Carlisle and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.
The six other players still wearing a Raiders uniform now are: punter Shane Lechler, kicker Sebastian Janikowski, long-snapper Jon Condo, running back Darren McFadden, free safety Michael Huff and strong safety Tyvon Branch.

– The Ravens last lost a regular-season home game late in the 2010 season. Their streak has reached an NFL-best 14 straight regular-season home victories, including a 4-0 mark this season.
To that end, Harbaugh said, the Ravens take the field with an air about them, knowing that good things happen when they play in front of their own fans.
“There is probably a confidence level with that, because we’ve had some positive experiences,” Harbaugh said. “There’s been a lot of big games and tough games in that, that just kind of set that tone a little bit. But every game stands on its own two feet.”
That last sentence is what the Raiders are counting upon, that the previous 14 wins by the Ravens at their place don’t count for much when the Raiders play there Sunday.

– Allen reiterated that he isn’t prepared to make a determination on the status of injured players McFadden, running back Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour until after practice Friday.
None of those three practiced today. Allen said McFadden and Goodson are wearing protective boots as a result of their high-ankle sprains.
Coincidentally, rookie Jeremy Stewart said he is preparing this week as if he is going to be signed from the practice squad and activated for Sunday’s game.
“Yeah, they said it’s a possibility,” Stewart said. “They basically told me to be ready, and we’ll see what happens.”
Stewart said he has taken a similar approach since he signed with the Raiders.
“You have to approach every day like you’re going to be the guy starting. So, since I’ve gotten here I’ve been preparing for my opportunity. So, if it presents itself this weekend, I’ll be ready.”
He rushed for 257 yards on only 55 carries his final season at Stanford. He also scored 10 touchdowns on 62 touches that season.
“I feel like I’m a good finisher,” Stewart said. “I can find the end zone.”
Taiwan Jones and Marcel Reece are splitting the reps in practice this week. Like Palmer, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said he is eager to see what Jones can do in a game.
“Pure speed, it’s one of the fastest I’ve been around,” Knapp said of Jones, “because he has that ability to burst and separate right away. That trait is not coachable, so he does have that ability to separate real fast which is a unique quality to have.”
Knapp said injuries suffered by Jones this season cost him some valuable practice time, which set him back in terms of getting down his assignments on each play. Ball-security issues also are a concern.

– Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said he feels pretty good in his return from a groin injury. Yet, he doesn’t sound overly optimistic about playing Sunday.
“Obviously I’ve got some kinks to get out, but you’ll get those out the more you’re on the field,” Barnes said. “Each day that goes by, the more familiar I get with stuff, the muscle memory starts coming back, and that’s how I’m approaching it.”
Barnes said he feels as if he needs more time to get back up to speed. That’s understandable considering he didn’t practice for more than seven weeks after suffering a groin injury that required surgery.
Allen said Barnes, Willie Smith and Tony Bergstrom are taking reps at right offensive tackle in practice this week. It’s possible that Allen will announce the starter for the Ravens game as soon as Friday.

– Michael Huff is going to remain at cornerback for the Ravens game, Allen said.
Ron Bartell is expected to be activated Saturday and play Sunday for the first time since he suffered a shoulder injury in the regular-season opener.
Allen said the plan is to play Bartell as much as Bartell can handle. With Bartell and Huff at cornerback, that likely means less playing time for Pat Lee and Phillip Adams.

– Allen said Seymour was in no shape to practice Thursday, that Seymour “couldn’t practice today if he had to.”
That means Desmond Bryant, Lamaar Houston and Christo Bilukidi might be in for more playing time inside if Seymour isn’t healthy enough to play Sunday. Dave Tollefson is another player that can move inside for a few downs here and there, if needed.

– The Raiders burned one of their 14 allotted practices in pads Wednesday, Allen said. They did so as a means of working on tackling on the heels of a lackluster performance against the Buccaneers.

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  • inonewordraider

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate. yesterday was disgusting, and sadly it is just another in a very long line of shameful behavior in here.

    There are youth that log on to this site and it is unfair to them especially.

    As you can see there is no such thing as a raider nation free from bigotry, racism or white supremacy. If there were such a thing you will find no evidence of it here.

    Some are overt, , some have been repeatedly exposed like for their true feelings about black people yet they try and be more subtle.

    It is clear from reading this thread alone that just the mention of a black man in leadership is not only unaccepted but hated to the bone. even leading a football team as a qb is an eyesore to many here, even though football and sports in general are meaningless. that is why the mention of newton vick tp6 or james harris quickly causes the board to disintegrate into a frenzy of race baiting and under handed hate. you dont have to be an art major to connect the dots on this, picture is clear as day.

    Dont be upset with for holding a mirror but this is your ugly reflection so called raider nation.

    You sit by and dont take these people to task for their reprehensible actions, neither do the blog moderators.

    These continue day after day, unchecked and free. doing nothing, failing to call them out makes you an accessory to the crime. You are either cowards or that is who you truly are, and it would not surprise me one bit.
    ______________________

    rgIII (fabulous player by the way) 2 wins
    andrew luck 6 wins

    care to recant the statement “andrew luck is not on the same planet” as RGIII?

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Jerry Sloan…Pick and Roll maestro, sounds good to me.

  • MiamiRaider78

    I agree that the DAILY racial and personal attacks on here need to stop. It’s a poor reflection of Raider nation and it’s mentally draining, when all you want to do is come in here and have a good debate about the team, whether or not you agree with ones opinion or criticism.

    The exchange insults finally caught up to me this past Sunday with Oakfoshow but I couldn’t hold back from getting caught up. And I apologize for that!

  • MiamiRaider78

    No more predictions Dakota, especially after the Romney win. lol

  • mcfadden20.

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate. yesterday was disgusting, and sadly it is just another in a very long line of shameful behavior in here.

    There are youth that log on to this site and it is unfair to them especially.

    As you can see there is no such thing as a raider nation free from bigotry, racism or white supremacy. If there were such a thing you will find no evidence of it here.

    Some are overt, , some have been repeatedly exposed like for their true feelings about black people yet they try and be more subtle.

    It is clear from reading this thread alone that just the mention of a black man in leadership is not only unaccepted but hated to the bone. even leading a football team as a qb is an eyesore to many here, even though football and sports in general are meaningless. that is why the mention of newton vick tp6 or james harris quickly causes the board to disintegrate into a frenzy of race baiting and under handed hate. you dont have to be an art major to connect the dots on this, picture is clear as day.

    Dont be upset with for holding a mirror but this is your ugly reflection so called raider nation.

    You sit by and dont take these people to task for their reprehensible actions, neither do the blog moderators.

    These continue day after day, unchecked and free. doing nothing, failing to call them out makes you an accessory to the crime. You are either cowards or that is who you truly are, and it would not surprise me one bit.
    ———————–

    Its a fcking BLOG, does this schit really bother you THAT much does this blog consume that much of your life? if not you shouldnt care so much who cares about some racist fags hiding behind there cpu’s. I’m black and I could care less because I have more important things to worry about than some blog and I would think that you do too seeing that you own a business and all. Some of you folks take this blog too serious black and white.

    ____

    first good thing you said in a while, about time you made some sense

  • boss01

    Jim Buss needs to get on a plane to Montana immediately

  • DMAC

    Lakers hire Dennis Rodman for head coach.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Its a fcking BLOG, does this schit really bother you THAT much does this blog consume that much of your life? i”

    I have a saying that fits here….if words on a computer screen affect you in such a manner you probably should not be reading them….or you are an emotionaly unstable person like MR.

    Everyone acts like this is an isolated incident I see this crap in here weekly…come on man!

  • eastoaklandraider

    Who replaces Brown? Sloan and Phil aint walkn through that door, so what contingency plan did the faker have in place?

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate.
    ===================================================
    Hate to tell you this, but eliminating cross posting and the hijacking of handles isn’t going to put an end to racism on this blog.

    It is absurd however, that hijacking of ID’s on this blog is apparently accomplished with ease.

    How can you have legitimate debate and conversations when you don’t even know who you’re actually speaking with ?

    There has to be a better, more secure, blogging platform available.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    I have a saying that fits here….if words on a computer screen affect you in such a manner you probably should not be reading them….or you are an emotionaly unstable person like MR.
    ++++++++++++
    LOL. MR…is he still in dear love with lance kiffin?

  • dr_robert

    Missdick–after fangs, ur the biggest racist on here. U hate white people. All u ever do is praise black qb’s. we don’t hate black people. We just can’t stand u. FYI, constantly calling everyone racist makes u the racist. White supremacy? Does anyone even use that term anymore? That’s for guys like fangs. We like black qb’s just fine. We don’t like u. Get it? And btw, it’s called free speech. Quit throwing ur little tantrums and toughen up pansy.

  • MiamiRaider78

    666

    The whole fckn blog is consumed by the high school bullshet. A bunch of adults acting like teenagers gets tiring to read, over and over and over again. I look forward to coming on here to get good info, not reading about the other bull.

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic just need to shutup and talk about Raiders, he worry too much about stuff he shouldn’t worry about , he’s all consumed in Palmer hate and his love for “wave of futures”" talk about something else for once, maybe people will start liking you

  • MiamiRaider78

    I wouldn’t mind Sloan or Jeff Van Gundy…thats just me though. I doubt Phil comes back but I wish he would.

  • eastoaklandraider

    first good thing you said in a while, about time you made some sense
    ——————

    Move on Mcfaggen20 you are hands down one of the biggest dumb asses on this blog. you are part of the problem not the solution.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    having had the chance to watch luck vs gabbert last night i was struck by a few things about both.

    First off gabbert is not nearly as bad as he is made out to be. he is actually progressing over last year, and has improved. i see that he has no help. The o line is average at best, he has no one to throw the ball to, and the defense is awful. The coordinator also isnt using blaine in a way that maximizes his talent. he has a strong arm and he is a good runner. he needs to play in mainly spread formations, and the jags should up the tempo on offense. allow gabbert to run more zone read, and use more misdirection. They would be wise to revisit mizzou offense and add it to the playbook. poor kid the clueless jags will ruin him

    andrew luck is amazing. he has single handedly saved that offense form being a bottom feeder. Now that they can score the defense can go back to what it always has done, be so so against the run, but pressure the qb. The gift of playing with reggie wayne has also benefited luck greatly, and he clearly knows to look up number 87. i can see luck having a a very nice season and just as everyone has said , he could be great for years to come.

  • Dan78

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    I wouldn’t mind Sloan or Jeff Van Gundy…thats just me though. I doubt Phil comes back but I wish he would.
    ================================
    I think Sloan would fit better with this group

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    You can chose not to read posts in here.

    This issue everyone thought would be solved when we made it mandatory to log in with user names etc.

    NOPE!

    Trolls will be trolls if they could be exterminated they would have done it long long ago.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Sloan is one mean mudda. Could Kobe live with a strict dude like Sloan?

  • dr_robert

    Frankly, other than fangs, I don’t really see much actual racism towards black guys. Most guys comments that contain racism are jokes directed at mistic cuz they’re sick of him. He ignores all the people who repeatedly say they’re not racist and says everyone’s “subtly” racist cuz they don’t think Pryor is better than Palmer. And he constantly tells everyone Palmer sucks when any knowledgeable football fan thinks that’s laughable. He’s the racist and he’s a sad pathetic little man. I’m glad most black people are stronger than missdick.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Jeff Van Gundy takes this job in a heartbeat, dont think he would be a bad choice. Sloan is done too old for a laker team with so much drama.

  • tonedeezy

    Mike Brown is garbage, and everyone but Cup Check knew that years ago.

    And on a similar note….Kobe has never done ANYTHING in the post-season without Phil on the bench. Just say’n.

  • inonewordraider

    It’s time for name those combine #s!

    name the combine #’s of these athletic qb’s. Your competitors today are RGIII, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Christian Ponder, Josh Freeman and Russell Wilson

    1. 40 yard dash 4.56
    vertical 35.0 inches
    broad jump 126 inches
    shuttle 4.18
    3 cone 6.92

    2. 40 yard dash 4.67
    vertical 36.0
    broad jump 124 inches
    shuttle 4.28
    3 cone 6.80

    3. 40 yard dash 4.9
    vertical leap 33.5
    broad jump 119
    shuttle 4.43
    3 cone 7.11

    4. 40 yard dash 4.55
    vertical leap 34.0
    broad jump 118
    shuttle 4.09
    3 cone 6.97

    5. 40 yard dash 4.41
    vertical leap 39 inches
    broad jump 120
    no shuttle
    no 3 cone

    6. 40 yard dash 4.63
    vertical leap 34 inches
    broad jump 116
    shuttle 4.09
    3 cone 6.85

  • Dan78

    How about D’antoni???

  • eastoaklandraider

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    You can chose not to read posts in here.
    —————-

    post of the day thus far.

  • mcfadden20.

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    first good thing you said in a while, about time you made some sense
    ——————

    Move on Mcfaggen20 you are hands down one of the biggest dumb asses on this blog. you are part of the problem not the solution.

    ——

    Wow your on same level with KK , no matter what you say to him good or bad, expect him to say something like that, name is mcfadden20. quit this childish bs for once , your just as worse as Mistake (Mistic)

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “666

    The whole fckn blog is consumed by the high school bullshet. A bunch of adults acting like teenagers gets tiring to read, over and over and over again. I look forward to coming on here to get good info, not reading about the other bull.”

    Ok and I agree with you but this site has been this way as long as I have been here maybe six or seven years. They tried to fix it by making people log in use an email address etc but as you can see it didn’t work.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Dan78,

    Defense goes out the door with him. lol

  • Dakota

    604.MiamiRaider78 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    No more predictions Dakota, especially after the Romney win. lol
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Ouch….but deserved.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Its a fcking BLOG, does this schit really bother you THAT much does this blog consume that much of your life? if not you shouldnt care so much who cares about some racist fags hiding behind there cpu’s. I’m black and I could care less because I have more important things to worry about than some blog and I would think that you do too seeing that you own a business and all. Some of you folks take this blog too serious black and white.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    we know its a blog, that does not mean people should be allowed to be in here with this trash. If my son logs on to a public site sponsored by our own city newspaper he should not have to be exposed to it period. Just as he shouldnt be exposed to racist tirade from a newspaper editor or writer in a column in the nes paper. just as he should be able to go to school and not be called baboon by the teacher.

    You can just to ignore it that is your right, I choose to call it out. as long as trayvone martin and oscar grant are a reality than when i detect symptoms of this illness it will be exposed.

  • dr_robert

    Bs. Mcfadden20 is cool with me. He talks good football, has passion about the raiders, and attacks trolls. We need more like him.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    first good thing you said in a while, about time you made some sense
    ——————

    Move on Mcfaggen20 you are hands down one of the biggest dumb asses on this blog. you are part of the problem not the solution.

    ——

    Wow your on same level with KK , no matter what you say to him good or bad, expect him to say something like that, name is mcfadden20. quit this childish bs for once , your just as worse as Mistake (Mistic)
    ——————-

    Yeah, whatever Mcfaggen20.

  • 2romes

    C’mom Eastoak, you came down pretty hard on someone that is trying to do what he can to stop stupid stuff from going on here. This after, this is suppose to be a blog were Raiders fans can agree and disagree about Raider football. He was just trying to keep the Raider fans close to that topic. Peace out Raider brothers and sisters.

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Its a fcking BLOG, does this schit really bother you THAT much does this blog consume that much of your life? if not you shouldnt care so much who cares about some racist fags hiding behind there cpu’s. I’m black and I could care less because I have more important things to worry about than some blog and I would think that you do too seeing that you own a business and all. Some of you folks take this blog too serious black and white.

  • Dakota

    Which is the worse Jim Buss hire: Rudy T or Mike Brown?

    I hope The Dr. steps in and puts Phil and Jeanie back in charge.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    First off gabbert is not nearly as bad as he is made out to be.
    =================================================
    Disagree. Gabbert stinks. Doesn’t handle pressure well and his accuracy is subpar.

    Jax will be looking for another QB in 2013.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    The mods really need to do something about the punks that hijack handles and cross post. this place should be a place where football fans can discuss football without having to be exposed to racism and hate. yesterday was disgusting, and sadly it is just another in a very long line of shameful behavior in here.

    There are youth that log on to this site and it is unfair to them especially.

    As you can see there is no such thing as a raider nation free from bigotry, racism or white supremacy. If there were such a thing you will find no evidence of it here.

    Some are overt, , some have been repeatedly exposed like for their true feelings about black people yet they try and be more subtle.

    It is clear from reading this thread alone that just the mention of a black man in leadership is not only unaccepted but hated to the bone. even leading a football team as a qb is an eyesore to many here, even though football and sports in general are meaningless. that is why the mention of newton vick tp6 or james harris quickly causes the board to disintegrate into a frenzy of race baiting and under handed hate. you dont have to be an art major to connect the dots on this, picture is clear as day.

    Dont be upset with for holding a mirror but this is your ugly reflection so called raider nation.

    You sit by and dont take these people to task for their reprehensible actions, neither do the blog moderators.

    These continue day after day, unchecked and free. doing nothing, failing to call them out makes you an accessory to the crime. You are either cowards or that is who you truly are, and it would not surprise me one bit.
    ______________________

    rgIII (fabulous player by the way) 2 wins
    andrew luck 6 wins

    care to recant the statement “andrew luck is not on the same planet” as RGIII?
    ===========

    this is exactly what i mean by subtle racism.

    what does pitting rgIII against luck have to do with what i posted above?

    You only see race it is your preoccupation.

    for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips

    luck is also one of my favorite young qbs to watch

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    raiderduck,

    how do you report people here, is there an email?

    ===========================================

    jbecker@bayareanewsgroup.com

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    raiderduck,

    how do you report people here, is there an email?

    ===========================================

    scorkran@bayareanewsgroup.com

  • mcfadden20.

    dr_robert Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Bs. Mcfadden20 is cool with me. He talks good football, has passion about the raiders, and attacks trolls. We need more like him.


    He’s just mad because i don’t agree with his take on this team, but if he just wants to get upset at it and call me names for it , good for him

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Its tough to score more than 20 points on Baltimore but I think we will need 30 to win on Sunday……..anybody else have thoughts in this subject?

  • dr_robert

    Missdick is crying

  • DMAC

    If you come to this blog, only to talk Raider football, than clearly your in the wrong blog.
    This is a place where people discuss whatever they want, not just football. (if you haven’t noticed)
    Its 2 fk’n funny how so many people get caught up w/ the trolls.

  • DMAC

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Its tough to score more than 20 points on Baltimore but I think we will need 30 to win on Sunday……..anybody else have thoughts in this subject?
    =========

    Their D is suspect this season.
    Def. a winnable game.

  • eastoaklandraider

    You can just to ignore it that is your right, I choose to call it out. as long as trayvone martin and oscar grant are a reality than when i detect symptoms of this illness it will be exposed.
    ——————

    Have at it then brah its cool wit me, but dont compare this to Oscar Grant and Trayvone Martin, please.

  • mcfadden20.

    this is exactly what i mean by subtle racism.

    what does pitting rgIII against luck have to do with what i posted above?

    You only see race it is your preoccupation.

    for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips

    luck is also one of my favorite young qbs to watch

    —-
    This is what makes people mad, when it comes to Palmer and JC>>> you never admit Palmer is light years ahead of him and can do things JC can’t even imagine in his dreams and you point out to the record ..

    yet when some one claims Luck is better than Griffin , the record doesn’t matter all of a sudden

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    dr_robert Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Missdick–after fangs, ur the biggest racist on here. U hate white people. All u ever do is praise black qb’s.

    White supremacy? Does anyone even use that term anymore?
    ==============

    1. please produce anything that i have ever post that is racist? you constantly accuse me of it but dont have anything to back it up. being a fan of an athlete does not make a person racist, no matter the sport or the position, or the skin color. being a fan of cam newton or rgIII does not make a person racist simply because he is a black man playing qb.

    2. you may want to dismiss white supremacy or try and fool us into thinking it doesnt exist, but im afraid the families of trayvonn martin and oscar grant would disagree with you.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Get Phil some peyote and his special coaching high chair and he’ll come back.

  • dr_robert

    Rg3 is light years ahead of luck? This is why people think ur a moron. Griffin has been struggling. We all like Hume just fine though. If we think luck is better, that’s racist? This is why ur a joke. U created all of this.

    And gabbert has improved. So has ponder. They’ve both been up and down but have proven they have a shot at being nfl qb’s.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips”

    Yeah Right like being a division leader or having a 6-3 record or making the playoffs playing in an actual pro offense not some college hybrid that teams soon figure out.

    You are delusional Luck is light years ahead of RG111