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CB Lee not with the Raiders in Baltimore

Cornerback Pat Lee did not accompany the Raiders on their flight to Baltimore on Friday.
A team official confirmed that Lee was not on the flight. However, no transaction was performed Friday.
It’s logical to assume that the Raiders told Lee that his roster spot will be needed to free up room for cornerback Ron Bartell in his return from the injured-reserve list.
The Raiders can’t activate Bartell until Saturday, per league rules. So, we should know more later Saturday.
Lee entered the starting lineup in the second game in place of Bartell. However, coach Dennis Allen went with regular free safety Michael Huff at cornerback the next game, with Matt Giordano moving into the free safety spot and Lee into a backup role.
Bartell and Huff are expected to start at cornerback against the Ravens. If Lee isn’t on the team at that time, look for Philip Adams and Joselio Hanson to get the bulk of the reps whenever the Raiders are in their nickel and dime packages on obvious passing downs.

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  • stablersbeard

    93.. yes…Good call…

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    But I’m sure most know whom I was referring to, and we now know your opinion of him. And a valid opinion it is.

  • morilla

    It’s going to be easy for the Ravens to decipher run vs. pass. I don’t see TJ being back there much for protection.

  • Plunketthead

    I get to watch Bridgewater for the first time. Its the only decent morning game.

    wow real sparse crowd in the Carrier dome.
    Probly Sandys fault

  • Twinkle

    Pman being from down under and all I consider myself a
    master of sarcasm…..you can imagine how it feels when someone slides some by me….apologies mein freund.

  • Twinkle

    #91 I agree…and how I feared for Mr Fargas’s health.
    I hope the man can walk etc.

  • Twinkle

    Morilla I fear its going to be easy for them to do what ever they want with us.

  • Twinkle

    Lofty rather them than me…blowing up Marcel might take a while.And ohh what a pair of hands!!!!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Twinkle Says:
    Pman being from down under and all I consider myself a
    master of sarcasm…..you can imagine how it feels when someone slides some by me….apologies mein freund.===

    No problemo. Thought you were NZ. Does that fall under the umbrella of down under?

  • Twinkle

    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    People like to blame everything on the ZBS.
    That’s not realistic. ANY legitimate scheme can be successful if it’s coached properly.
    The problem here is that the coaches who are charged with making the scheme successful are not very good.
    It’s not the scheme, it’s Knapp’s inability to design plays that enable the talent to execute.
    Knapp is a sh1tty offensive coordinator.
    **********************************************
    but lest we forget….who it was that employed him…
    and who it was that employed the one that employed him.

  • Twinkle

    Um…yes unfortunately…you see there are 3 islands down
    under the north island the south island and the west
    island sometimes known as australia.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    arkraider Says: Hey Becker did you get it sorted out yet? You didn’t respond to my e-mail.
    Can I say Pres. O yet? Or is disrespectful and hateful racist drivel the only free speech allowed on the blog?
    Please get this fixed.================================

    Reason I had his email address(and Corks) was to clue them in on the new live chat format sucking. Cork responded in less than an hour, Becker in 4 or 5 days.

  • stablersbeard

    Twinkle Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    but lest we forget….who it was that employed him…
    and who it was that employed the one that employed him.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I’m kind of an optimist. I’m hoping that it’s a case of an otherwise talented rookie head coach making the mistake of going with a guy he’s familiar with. And that Reggie made the mistake of letting out too much leash with the rookie head coach.
    I’m not ready to throw in the towel on either of them yet.
    If they don’t make the obviously needed changes going forward, my opinion will change.

  • stablersbeard

    Hey, Twinkle…. My father spent a bit of time in New Zealand in the 40s.
    He was in the Marine Corps, and there was a little fracas going on in that area.
    He loved the place. Always talked about how wonderful the people were.

  • J Hill

    Surprised Francies wasn’t cut instead.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Twinkle Says: the west island.=========================

    Love geographic humor. Texas is known as Baja Oklahoma by some. My sister lived on the North Island for a couple years in the late seventies and came back with a future husband, tho’ canadian, not a kiwi. Never heard them or visiting NZ’ers refer to it as down under.

  • tuckrulefool

    Twinkle…

    “Watched Reggie for 3 hours through binoculars on Sunday
    and I am not feeling too good for the experience.”

    Please explain this one for us….

  • mcfadden20.

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Reality is for jobs and relationships. Football is for fun

    Itss a game and I choose to be optimistic about the team/players/coaches each week/year..

    I would be miserable and it would take all the fun out of it if I went into every game with the attitude many have.

    Raiders 37
    blackbirds 0

    ——-

    Love the optimism man
    Silver and black 27
    Black n purple 20

  • Plunketthead

    My nocs are always fogged up and trained on dancing girls

  • mcfadden20.

    it’s a must game for our beloved Raiders , we lose this one and the season gets ugly , if we win ,we’re right in the division race

  • Los Raida Locos

    That last interception, I wished I would have called another play. I put him in a bad situation

    __________________________

    Yeah, OK. So this is something you can learn from? I am by no means a knapp nutt hugger, but com’on. Can he figure it out already? Good coaches have a ‘feel’ for the game and know the ‘flow’. Why doesn’t knapp just turn it over to Palmer and leave him alone. I also thought at that point in the game Palmers arm was low on fuel so a quick three step woulda been more appropiate. Especially when TB was giving us everything underneath. Be interesting to see what the game plan will be against the Ravens. Can we learn from the past and game plan with what we have? We shall see.

    None the less, gotta belive Palmer still has it.

    Oakland 38
    Baltimore 28

  • Al_is_theraiders

    reggie finally admitting how bad his pick ups have been…

  • stablersbeard

    None the less, gotta belive Palmer still has it.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    All you need to see is Palmer making pretty accurate throws 30 yards downfield with a defender hanging off his left side.
    Say what you want, the guy is a warrior……
    I don’t place much blame on him. With a half decent NFL scheme, he’s be MVP material.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Plunketthead Says:
    Reality is for jobs and relationships. Football is for fun
    Itss a game and I choose to be optimistic about the team/players/coaches each week/year..
    I would be miserable and it would take all the fun out of it if I went into every game with the attitude many have==================================================

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:54 pm Screw all the realists. Raiders gonna romp!

  • Los Raida Locos

    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:48 am
    None the less, gotta belive Palmer still has it.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    All you need to see is Palmer making pretty accurate throws 30 yards downfield with a defender hanging off his left side.
    Say what you want, the guy is a warrior……
    I don’t place much blame on him. With a half decent NFL scheme, he’s be MVP material.

    ___________________________________________

    Palmer is the leader of an apprenticeship program. If it wasn’t for him, we’d be 0-8 and the losses would be beyond ugly. Can you imagine how good we’d be if he had a o-line and a decent run game (power and gap to fit McFadden). Until this team reaches journeyman level status, Palmer will have to go beyond the limits to pull out wins. He’s done an incredible job in spite of knapp and the ZBS. It’s also to bad the ZBS finally beat McFadden down. DHB is turning into a baller. Real happy for him.

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    TWO years ago I informed my Raider bretheren of RG III. Last year I sais I would take him over Napoleon Dynamite.

    Now I give you Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (my College hoops team) QB. He’s the real deal. Big, athletic, operates in a pro offense scheme, big time performet.

    Let’s bury the Matt Barkley inferences forever. He reminds me of Brady Quinn. Enough said.

    With all the talent the University of Spoiled Children have they can’t do any better than three losses in the conference? I usually never root for Notre Dame but can’t wait until UCLA & then ND just shread USC.

    Aaron Curry could be the emotional spark the Raiders need to shake them out of the doldrums of last week’s debacle. BTW; I was there. Great weather, got to go th San Francisco to celebrate my beloved Giants success, hit Chinatown & Bezerkeley, then come the second half of the Tampa Bay game & the horrific defensive effort. Martin (the weightlifting hamster) is a good player but the Raiders defense (see Romac) made him look better than he is.

    The Raiders offense needs a spark to get them going. I hope Taiwan Jones can provide that but with his ball handling woes I really can’t see that happening. If Gordon is back perhaps he lines up as fullback for Marcel Reese. Remember, this isn’t your dad’s Raven deense. Injuries on the D-line (Haloti Ngata), Mike LB (Ray Ray), & ladarius Webb in the secondary. Smith, the other cb has injury woes of his own. d. Moore has to motivate himself in the aftermath of last week’s atrocious effort & reassert himself as the Raiders go to WR.

    Raiders 29 Ravens 23. . .

  • The Big Banana

    I thought Lee was playing fairly well?

  • stablersbeard

    125….
    Dead on, man.
    well said…

  • Twinkle

    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Hey, Twinkle…. My father spent a bit of time in New Zealand in the 40s.
    He was in the Marine Corps, and there was a little fracas going on in that area.
    He loved the place. Always talked about how wonderful the people were.
    *********************************************
    The 4th and 5th MC (no longer in existence) were a beloved part of my country’s history…..probably
    more beloved by the NZ woman than the men.NZ suffered
    more losses per head of population than any other
    country but Russia in WW2 but none the less we have
    fond memories (and probably many relatives) of the 4th
    and 5th Marine Corps before they were ordered to
    extinction attacking islands that could have been
    sieged without the loss of a single man.As far as a young mans dream……an island full of nothing but
    woman….damn.Glad your old man made it out alive.

  • stablersbeard

    Twinkle… He was with the 2nd division… but, I know what you’re saying.
    He was in the Marine Corps from 1940 to 1946. Was at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked. Later made at least two landings in the pacific.
    And yes, I’m really lucky he survived.
    From his stories I’ve always had a fondness for New Zealand. I hope to visit someday.

  • RaiderSam

    Twinkle Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Hey, Twinkle…. My father spent a bit of time in New Zealand in the 40s.
    He was in the Marine Corps, and there was a little fracas going on in that area.
    He loved the place. Always talked about how wonderful the people were.
    *********************************************
    The 4th and 5th MC (no longer in existence) were a beloved part of my country’s history…..probably
    more beloved by the NZ woman than the men.NZ suffered
    more losses per head of population than any other
    country but Russia in WW2 but none the less we have
    fond memories (and probably many relatives) of the 4th
    and 5th Marine Corps before they were ordered to
    extinction attacking islands that could have been
    sieged without the loss of a single man.As far as a young mans dream……an island full of nothing but
    woman….damn.Glad your old man made it out alive.
    ————

    The Bataan Death march…another untold atrocity by the Japanese…who the Americans allowed to escape the punishment for some of the upper level officers that ordered killings – not just the aussies, but filipinos, malay, several others. There was a film about it in the 80s – it was titled Prisoners of the Sun the number of Australian POWs on the island of Ambon had dropped from 1100 to less than 300 due to abuses by their Japanese …

  • stablersbeard

    And Twinkle.. I know from my history that ANZAC troops paid a horrific price in that war. Warriors from New Zealand would be wonderful allies to anyone lucky enough to have their friendship.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Dakota Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    Why lee?

    This roster if full of scrubs that could be cut instead of lee.

    J Hill Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    Surprised Francies wasn’t cut instead.

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    I thought Lee was playing fairly well?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly. Great posts.

  • Twinkle

    tuckrulefool Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Twinkle…

    “Watched Reggie for 3 hours through binoculars on Sunday
    and I am not feeling too good for the experience.”

    Please explain this one for us….
    **************************************
    Will try but it’s a gut feeling come my own dislike type thing.Been to a lot of these things and would
    occasionally see Al on the field talking to groundskeepers or coreographers or media.I was there
    to see Guy or Jaeger and so on.Reggie was out there
    at the 50 on Sunday doing the same thing…..only wore
    a suit and people came up to him.Al wore sweat pants
    and a Raider jacket and wandered around and was gone.
    Then came the organized stretching…WTF?Thats what
    other teams do.Can’t really explain it other than
    it just felt wrong.

  • fangsraiders

    …i enjoy watching you idiots worship ni66ers while your country burns….HITLER WAS RIGHT

  • stablersbeard

    135.
    Go away, idiot. Nobody here is responsible for your lack of intelligence or education.

  • stablersbeard

    Twinkle.. i hear what you’re saying. It’s amazing how much you can get from being at a game by observing body language and such.
    I can remember wondering why J. Campbell was always sitting alone at the end of a bench when the defense was on.
    And wondered why he threw such a pretty ball when warming up, but not so much when between the lines.

  • Twinkle

    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 10:09 am

    And Twinkle.. I know from my history that ANZAC troops paid a horrific price in that war. Warriors from New Zealand would be wonderful allies to anyone lucky enough to have their friendship.
    **********************************
    And to your father Sir…..Kamiti ora ora…it is so sad that so many of his fine friends died for political lies.
    We as a nation are familiar with this sh!t but for you
    as a nation new to this crap (at the time)….it is
    a massive wrong.I salute him!

  • JLofty

    I mean at least pat lee was worthy of being in an nfl game. Coye Franceees however wtf does he do for us?

  • Twinkle

    Hullo Fangs….missed you dude.Somewhere in there is an opinion….one not based on hate.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    fangsraiders Says:
    …i enjoy watching you idiots worship ni66ers while your country burns….HITLER WAS RIGHT======================

    As long as we’re making you happy. Obviously very little of that in your…life?…let’s say existence.

  • Raiders for life

    Sending out a prayer for Raiders D-Line coach.
    He lost his 4 year old son. sad a heck.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Twinkle, my older sisters best friend growing up in SoCal had NZ ties, which is how my sister wound up there. Apparantly she’s now a big mucky muck in the gay community down there. Mary Conner?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    tuckrulefool Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 7:05 am
    (Very) smart money says Goodson back well before we see McFadden again…

    ====

    Based on past evidence of DMac’s healing prowress, I think we have about a 50/50 chance of getting Bo back before him as well.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Raiders for life Says:
    Sending out a prayer for Raiders D-Line coach.
    He lost his 4 year old son. sad a heck.=======

    Likewise, bummer. What happened?

  • Plunketthead

    Blogpimp needs to wake up and let us no whats going on with Lee.

    I better make some phone calls just in case

  • Raiders for life

    Don’t know Purv, Just saw some tweets.
    I couldn’t imagine losing one of my children.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Twinkle Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    but lest we forget….who it was that employed him…
    and who it was that employed the one that employed him.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I’m kind of an optimist. I’m hoping that it’s a case of an otherwise talented rookie head coach making the mistake of going with a guy he’s familiar with. And that Reggie made the mistake of letting out too much leash with the rookie head coach.
    I’m not ready to throw in the towel on either of them yet.
    If they don’t make the obviously needed changes going forward, my opinion will change.

    =====

    Glad to see this sort of levelheadedness still exists. Coming into this season, look what was stacked against the team:
    - First season minus the owner that defined the team for decades
    - Rookie GM, learning on the job what that job is
    - Rookie HC, with even minimal coordinator experience, and having a huge learning curve
    - Rookie DC, not even coming directly from an NFL job
    - Hosed salary cap and contract situations, causing the team to lose people it would have wanted to keep and keep some that they’d prefer not to at high costs
    - No draft picks in the top 4 rounds to start the rebuilding process

    That’s a seriously stacked deck! Really, looking back then what were realistic expectations? 2 wins, maybe 3? For me, at that point (and still today) I would gladly trade a horrible, 2 win season in order to make this team better for years to come. What does one year buy?

    - All of those rookies at GM and coaching positions get that critical first year under their belt. That’s the year when they will make a majority of their worst mistakes as they learn.
    - Fixing some of the most egregious issues with the cap from 2013 forward, at the expense of front loading into 2012.
    - An establishment of the new team identity after the years AD (after Al’s passing)
    - The start of the era of Reggie’s guys making a name for themselves on the roster, like Burris, Briesl and Streater
    - They found themselves a legitimate top 10 capable QB in today’s pass first era that should have a few more years left in him to build around (assuming they can fix his contract for the next few years)

    So in my mind, this team is already outperforming where my 2012 expectations were, sitting on 3 wins halfway through the season. If they pick up a few more before it’s over, that’s gravy in my book.

    The problem is, with the last decade of frustration, a lot of Raider fans have little patience left. Once they saw potential this year, expectations shot way up again. I say that was fairly unrealistic considering all of the rebuilding going on, but it is what it is.

    For me, I’m going to continue enjoying watching the development of the team and not be overly concerned with wins and losses for the rest of the season. I’ll celebrate the progress where it is made and blog helplessly about what I think needs to change over time. That’s how I choose to spend my fan currency.

  • http://www.raiders.com KoolKell

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Twinkle, my older sisters best friend growing up in SoCal had NZ ties, which is how my sister wound up there. Apparantly she’s now a big mucky muck in the gay community down there. Mary Conner?
    ===========================================
    And you’re proud of this? Typical leftwing radical.

  • http://www.raiders.com KoolKell

    Zymurge Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    stablersbeard Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Twinkle Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    but lest we forget….who it was that employed him…
    and who it was that employed the one that employed him.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I’m kind of an optimist. I’m hoping that it’s a case of an otherwise talented rookie head coach making the mistake of going with a guy he’s familiar with. And that Reggie made the mistake of letting out too much leash with the rookie head coach.
    I’m not ready to throw in the towel on either of them yet.
    If they don’t make the obviously needed changes going forward, my opinion will change.

    =====

    Glad to see this sort of levelheadedness still exists. Coming into this season, look what was stacked against the team:
    - First season minus the owner that defined the team for decades
    - Rookie GM, learning on the job what that job is
    - Rookie HC, with even minimal coordinator experience, and having a huge learning curve
    - Rookie DC, not even coming directly from an NFL job
    - Hosed salary cap and contract situations, causing the team to lose people it would have wanted to keep and keep some that they’d prefer not to at high costs
    - No draft picks in the top 4 rounds to start the rebuilding process

    That’s a seriously stacked deck! Really, looking back then what were realistic expectations? 2 wins, maybe 3? For me, at that point (and still today) I would gladly trade a horrible, 2 win season in order to make this team better for years to come. What does one year buy?

    - All of those rookies at GM and coaching positions get that critical first year under their belt. That’s the year when they will make a majority of their worst mistakes as they learn.
    - Fixing some of the most egregious issues with the cap from 2013 forward, at the expense of front loading into 2012.
    - An establishment of the new team identity after the years AD (after Al’s passing)
    - The start of the era of Reggie’s guys making a name for themselves on the roster, like Burris, Briesl and Streater
    - They found themselves a legitimate top 10 capable QB in today’s pass first era that should have a few more years left in him to build around (assuming they can fix his contract for the next few years)

    So in my mind, this team is already outperforming where my 2012 expectations were, sitting on 3 wins halfway through the season. If they pick up a few more before it’s over, that’s gravy in my book.

    The problem is, with the last decade of frustration, a lot of Raider fans have little patience left. Once they saw potential this year, expectations shot way up again. I say that was fairly unrealistic considering all of the rebuilding going on, but it is what it is.

    For me, I’m going to continue enjoying watching the development of the team and not be overly concerned with wins and losses for the rest of the season. I’ll celebrate the progress where it is made and blog helplessly about what I think needs to change over time. That’s how I choose to spend my fan currency.
    ===========================================
    “We are going to just wait until next year. This is a recording.”
    The mantra of losers. Yes, I bagged on Al Davis for years, but I now realize Al was ahead of his time, and revolutionary in his actions. His decisions now appear to be spot on, with the exception of a few FA signings.

    Now we are reduced to Wait until next Year.
    LOSERS!!