Notes and observations from Raiders-Ravens game
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, November 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Eight days ago, the Raiders were within striking distance of the AFC West lead. Today, they are three games behind the pace-setting Denver Broncos and one more loss away from shifting their thoughts to 2013.
The quick turn of events illustrates just how fast a team’s fate can change in the NFL. The Raiders 55-20 loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, coupled with the Broncos victory over the Carolina Panthers, leaves the Raiders three games behind the Broncos and wondering where things went awry.
A scan of the stats from today’s game shows that the Raiders outgained the Ravens, converted a higher percentage of third-down plays and controlled the ball for far longer than the Ravens.
However, that’s why stats can be so misleading, too.
The Ravens outplayed the Raiders overall, especially on special teams and in making the big plays when it mattered most.
In particular, the Ravens returned a kick for a touchdown, turned a fake field-goal attempt into a touchdown and recovered a muffed punt return by Phillip Adams that led to another Ravens touchdown.
Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco also got far more out of his 341 yards passing than Carson Palmer did out of his 368.
Flacco passed for three touchdowns and consistently got the Ravens into scoring position with well-timed, well-placed throws.
– This was supposed to be the game that we got an extensive look at second-year running back Taiwan Jones, given injuries to Nos. 1 and 2 backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson.
Instead, the Raiders relied more upon fullback Marcel Reece and rookie Jeremy Stewart in the run game than they did Jones, who rushed only twice.
Reece rushed 13 times for 48 yards, Stewart seven for 22. Jones rushed twice for 6 yards and caught one pass for 7 yards.
Stewart spent the first part of the season on the Raiders practice squad. He was signed to the 53-man roster Saturday and played more than Jones, who has been active all season, one day later.
– The Raiders committed 10 penalties for 105 yards and looked nothing like the team that showed good composure and discipline in that regard for most of the first eight games.
Twice, linebacker Aaron Curry got called for personal-foul penalties. He talked at length about wanting to bring passion and energy to the Raiders in his first game back from injured knees.
Instead, Curry brought wreckless play that turned bad situations into worse. He needs to harness that energy and aggressiveness and make sure that his passion and energy are properly guided. Otherwise, he isn’t helping out the Raiders much at all.
Curry also saw some time on defense, something coach Allen said he intended to do with Curry as a means of giving the three starters a chance to get some rest and not play every snap.
Right guard Mike Brisiel committed a few penalties, as well, in one of his worst games of the season. Worse, he stepped on Palmer’s right foot on a fourth-and-one play that ended with Palmer on his backside and sacked.
– Backup quarterback Matt Leinart got into a game for the first time this season after spending the first eight on the sideline as Palmer played every down.
Leinart attempted one pass after entering the game late in the fourth quarter and the outcome not in question.
– Cornerback Michael Huff played really well for most of the first half in his bounce-back game from a subpar showing against the Buccaneers the week before.
Huff intercepted a Flacco pass that set up a Raiders field goal in the second quarter. He later came close to intercepting another pass.
However, he also got beat at least a couple of times on deep throws that helped change the complexion of the game.
– Huff wasn’t the only defensive back that struggled to contain the Ravens receivers.
On one play, wide receiver Torrey Smith ran past Huff, who appeared to be expecting help from free safety Matt Giordano once Huff let Smith go.
Instead, Smith ran a straight post route, with strong safety Tyvon Branch unable to get to Smith in time after leaving his man. Smith turned the busted coverage into a 47-yard touchdown.
On another play, a Ravens receiver ran a short post route, with Giordano late reacting to the quick cut inside. The receiver hauled in the pass for a touchdown.
– Ron Bartell returned to the lineup after missing the past seven games with a shoulder injury.
He appeared to hold up well, though he wasn’t able to make much of a difference in pass coverage, either. Flacco simply had too many open receivers too often for any one defender to stem the tide,
– The Raiders did a nice job bottling up Ravens running back Ray Rice, a player Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano compared to current Bucs running back Doug Martin.
Martin rushed for 251 yards and four touchdowns against the Raiders a week ago. Rice managed only 35 yards on 13 carries and 33 yards on four receptions.
Rice still found a way to make his mark on the game. He scored on a 7-yard touchdown just before halftime in turning a close game into a 27-10 margin.
– Adams muffed a punt once again. The Ravens parlayed the turnover into a touchdown one play later.
Jones and Joselio Hansen had an opportunity to recover the loose ball. However, the Ravens came out of the pile with the ball and capitalized right away.
– Things don’t any easier for the Raiders. Next up is a home game against the New Orleans Saints next Sunday, followed by a road game against the Cincinnati Bengals on Nov. 25.
The Saints handed the Atlanta Falcons their first loss of the season Sunday, and they head to Oakland riding back-to-back impressive victories and looking far more like the team that lost to the 49ers in the playoffs last season than the one that started 2-5 this season.
The Bengals drubbed the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Sunday, as they improved to 4-5, as well.
In other words, Allen and his coaching staff don’t have much time to get things corrected, and they have very little room for error the final seven games.
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November 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
It starts with the ZBS. Our offense can’t keep our D rested enough to be effective. ZBS has crabs, and now it looks as tho it may have the clap too.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Al was always able to get any player he wanted cap never stopped him. This bs about horrible contracts is just that bs. Reggie’s just in over his head.
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And which was the last big FA player he signed that worked out well?
November 11th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
In other words, Allen and his coaching staff don’t have much time to get things corrected, and they have very little room for error the final seven games.
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They’ve had all of pre season and the first 8 games of regular season. Doubt they can do a lot about that now.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
It starts with the ZBS. Our offense can’t keep our D rested enough to be effective. ZBS has crabs, and now it looks as tho it may have the clap too.
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Time of possession was in the Raiders favor 33 to 27
November 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Priest,I know in your eyes Al was god and could do no wrong,but he left this team void of talent.The new regime hasn’t done much to improve it,but I’m willing to give them more than 9 games to get it done.It seems you and many others aren’t.
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lefty12, Come one man you’re better than this. No one is God in my eyes except God and Mr Davis had faults but no more than anyone else. I have no issue with a new managment Mr Davis is DEAD…….we all ahve to move on!
No problem there but I’m going to call it as I see it. You guys expected him to be able fortell the future all I want from this crew is common sense…….lol
November 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
What a debacle…..I hate living in Denver while we suck!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
In other words, Allen and his coaching staff don’t have much time to get things corrected, and they have very little room for error the final seven games.
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They’ve had all of pre season and the first 8 games of regular season. Doubt they can do a lot about that now.
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Again troll, same D from last year , which s8cked, until we can learn how to pass rush , we will s8ck , we won’t get any pass rushers until next season, hopefully rest of AL’s contracts are off the hook soon
November 11th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
He just scored……..it’s the new wave at work…..lol
November 11th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Nice to see the niners sucking balls.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
With a resounding thud carcass Palmer & the raiders crash & burn. Carcass is 7-12 nowhere near.500 & with 2 more miserable turnovers today was only able to pad stats with he game well out of reach.
In the biggest game of palmers raided tenure he goes down in flames like the Hindenburg.
Things don’t look likely to improve as the red hot saints come to town, only the bungle bowl is left to look forward to besides the unsheathing of tp6.
Carson Palmer unable to shoulder the load & circle the wagons is now circling the drain & planning fishing trips for he offseason.
Gurgle… Gurgle… Gurgle he leads us to new shameful lows
November 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Typical,you can’t rebut the message so you go after the messenger.For the record,I’ve said Jackson was a damn good OC.IMO,he was a terrible HC.Honestly,we’d have been better off keeping Cable as HC,HJ as OC and getting a decent DC.But Davis didn’t like Cable so we started AGAIN.
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There was nothing to rebut, you clearly cant see the facts, so thats pretty much it.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
“However, that’s why stats can be so misleading, too.”
All Knapp-apoligists should take note of this
November 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
55 points! im pretty sure they never sucked as bad as the last two weeks…
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Last years week 17 performance was embarrasing , it was just that SD took their precious time to score instead of quick strikes like Baltimore, they could have scored 70 points if they wanted to
November 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
With a resounding thud carcass Palmer & the raiders crash & burn. Carcass is 7-12 nowhere near.500 & with 2 more miserable turnovers today was only able to pad stats with he game well out of reach.
In the biggest game of palmers raided tenure he goes down in flames like the Hindenburg.
Things don’t look likely to improve as the red hot saints come to town, only the bungle bowl is left to look forward to besides the unsheathing of tp6.
Carson Palmer unable to shoulder the load & circle the wagons is now circling the drain & planning fishing trips for he offseason.
Gurgle… Gurgle… Gurgle he leads us to new shameful lows
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No credibility in the post , try again Mistakesupers8cker
November 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Again troll, same D from last year , which s8cked, until we can learn how to pass rush , we will s8ck , we won’t get any pass rushers until next season, hopefully rest of AL’s contracts are off the hook soon
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The ZBS sucks first and foremost. Make no mistake about that. But granted our D allowed the ravens no huddle offense to march and score at will. Our D is infected by the ZBS. That is just how it works.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
“However, that’s why stats can be so misleading, too.”
All Knapp-apoligists should take note of this
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Knapp s8cks , his play calling s8cks, OL S8cks, D s8cks the worst
November 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Niners are amazing!!!! Even with backups they kick butt.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
55 points! im pretty sure they never sucked as bad as the last two weeks…
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Last years week 17 performance was embarrasing , it was just that SD took their precious time to score instead of quick strikes like Baltimore, they could have scored 70 points if they wanted to
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97 points in two weeks. No we never sucked this bad.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
ZBS is not good. What has it produced. Nothing. Can’t score. knapp/zbs apologists are becoming fewer. When DA can let go of knapps pipe dream, the D will improve.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
What reptile?…Niners sucking? What game you watching?
November 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I will admit at the present pace man if we can’t get it turned around in the next few weeks I owuld love to see Pryor in there. Just watching kaepernick wets my appetite for an athletic QB capable of huge plays in the redzone.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
All knapp apologists should have their nut sacks pulled over their heads.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Again troll, same D from last year , which s8cked, until we can learn how to pass rush , we will s8ck , we won’t get any pass rushers until next season, hopefully rest of AL’s contracts are off the hook soon
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The ZBS sucks first and foremost. Make no mistake about that. But granted our D allowed the ravens no huddle offense to march and score at will. Our D is infected by the ZBS. That is just how it works.
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No doubt ZBS s8cks , but last year’s O wasn’t like they were putting up 30+ points lol, we’re putting up 2 less points than last year, the D s8cks more , because still no Pass rush
November 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Knowing the head coaching staff, they would give all the 1st team reps to Pryor, then start Leinart
November 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Rams just coughed it up!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
East,perhaps you should use your Merriam-Webster and look up the definition of the word FACT.Then look up the word SPECULATION.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
mctroll20 on full scale meltdown….97 points in two weeks?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
What reptile?…Niners sucking? What game you watching?
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Shіt. They were down 17-7 last I saw, now 17-14. Sorry bro, can’t get behind them tho.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Lol losers like Reptile like to make fools of themselves counting out the Niners,..someday you will learn.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Get lost loser, you are the typical Raider fan that knows nothing.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Kaepernick is stealing Alex Smith’s job as we speak………………..GET READY!
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I always knew you and Mistic were the same guy.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Priest,the difference is Kap was and is properly trained to be a QB.Pryor is just now learning the position.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Not using TJ was at least confusing……these guys just don’t make sense to me I watch these games the Raiders and I’m puzzled as to what they’re trying to do. They look confused and unprepared.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Priest,the difference is Kap was and is properly trained to be a QB.Pryor is just now learning the position.
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Trust me Lefty12, there aint much difference between those two. I would take Pryor over Kaep.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Struggles of our O 2 players = RG and RT
Struggles of D = Pass rush
Much easier to find RG and RT , Pass rush means we will have to throw out a lot of money to players, more dead weight going to come off next year, Kelly, Seymour, Mcclain
November 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Wow! The dropoffin accuracy from Vick to Foles is staggering. White flag time in Philly.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Struggles of our O 2 players = RG and RT
Struggles of D = Pass rush
Much easier to find RG and RT , Pass rush means we will have to throw out a lot of money to players, more dead weight going to come off next year, Kelly, Seymour, Mcclain
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Struggle of the O = OC
November 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
NINERS
November 11th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
mctroll20 on full scale meltdown….97 points in two weeks?
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Meltdown/??? sh1t i didn’t know i was wasting my time talking with ignorant b33ch-Dawg
November 11th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
At least we all have the lakers to watch!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
I think we have Sully in here , not hard to tell who is that guy
November 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Struggles of our O 2 players = RG and RT
Struggles of D = Pass rush
Much easier to find RG and RT , Pass rush means we will have to throw out a lot of money to players, more dead weight going to come off next year, Kelly, Seymour, Mcclain
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Struggle of the O = OC
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combined with OC , RT AND RG all s8ckk
November 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Dakota Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
At least we all have the lakers to watch!
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Oh you mean the organization that fired their coach cuz he was trying to put square pegs in round holes?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
mctroll as much as you might like it…no not beech but you are melting down…
November 11th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
mctroll as much as you might like it…no not beech but you are melting down…
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No, last reply to you Beech , have a good night , keep trolling
November 11th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Wow! The dropoffin accuracy from Vick to Foles is staggering. White flag time in Philly.
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How many black racists are there on this blog?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Again Lefty12, Not to over do it. But this what we’re watching with Kaepernick is exactly why many in here want this staff to give that kid a chance and get him ready.
Look at how the niners are benefitting from just common sense coaching and developing players instead doghousing them.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Mistic,
I’ve heard stupidity before but you take the cake.
29-45 368 yd’s. 2 td’s 1 int. (that was tipped).
55 pt’s given up and YOU blame Palmer.
You are beyond stupid and your takes are worthless.
You have ZERO football knowledge.
Just shut up and go away you instigating pos.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Niners are on the verge of going down, soon we will see some trolls disappear
November 11th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Mistic,
I’ve heard stupidity before but you take the cake.
29-45 368 yd’s. 2 td’s 1 int. (that was tipped).
55 pt’s given up and YOU blame Palmer.
You are beyond stupid and your takes are worthless.
You have ZERO football knowledge.
Just shut up and go away you instigating pos.
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He’s just a troll , probably sully, or some chargers , whiners fan
November 11th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Kaepernick is a nightmare to contemplate defensing, His amrstrength is awesome. His athleticism flatout scary. His size and speed are off the charts what a prospect…..
Please get Terrelle Pryor ready I want to see some of that in silver and black NOW!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
its ok if you get mad mctroll20…keep on licking…
November 11th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Dennis Allen is proving to be a very inexperienced coach.
He is in way over his head.
He makes Hue Jackson look good.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Stewart spent the first part of the season on the Raiders practice squad. He was signed to the 53-man roster Saturday and played more than Jones, who has been active all season, one day later.
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I’ll say it once more then I’ll drop it.
Why is T. Jones even on the 53? If Knapp won’t play him then he’s just taking up a roster spot.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Kaepernick is a nightmare to contemplate defensing, His amrstrength is awesome. His athleticism flatout scary. His size and speed are off the charts what a prospect…..
Please get Terrelle Pryor ready I want to see some of that in silver and black NOW!
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OK Mistic lol
November 11th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
hahah harbourgh loses. I officialy hate both of them
November 11th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
“The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
SWAGGERING boisterously…”
Dennis Allen is not a Raider Head Coach. He has absolutely ZERO Swagger.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
its ok if you get mad mctroll20…keep on licking…
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I told you , i don’t talk with trolls/ignorant fans/day dreamers whichever category you fit into , good night
November 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This article is wrong. The season is over.
I wanna something different against New Orl.
No more “stay the course” b.s.
The “course” is closed.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
DA WILL RIGHT THE SHIP , ALL REAL FANS KNOW , HE TOOK OVER THE MESS , Trolls don’t bother responding
November 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
47.Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Again Lefty12, Not to over do it. But this what we’re watching with Kaepernick is exactly why many in here want this staff to give that kid a chance and get him ready.
Look at how the niners are benefitting from just common sense coaching and developing players instead doghousing them.
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Yep, you could say the same for Jones and Bergstrom. Gotta get those guys some snaps. But Knapp isn’t that creative.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson Al Saunders offense, with a quality Defensive Coordinator, along with a healthy Mcfadden would have ran away with this division.
But that was not part of Reggie Mckenzie’s relocate to LA plan.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
What “mess” did DA inheret?
The 8-8 mess that was within a defesnsive stop of the playoffs? That one?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Knapp s8cks, You can try many things, move Wiz to LG, Start Parsons at C, Move CC to RG , start Berg at RT, need to stop getting greedy with the plays that work ,hence the Int happened
November 11th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
FIREREGGIENOW!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
In all fairness what evidence do we have to think DA will “right the ship”?
Seriously?
The team has regressed horribly since he took over.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
rutroh i spoke too soon
Oh well Tom Cable was a Raider
November 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
62.ArmChair GM Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson Al Saunders offense, with a quality Defensive Coordinator, along with a healthy Mcfadden would have ran away with this division.
But that was not part of Reggie Mckenzie’s relocate to LA plan.
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Now your just venting and talkin bs. Who would you want as the Raider GM?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I feel bad for Palmer. First the Bengals, now this.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Need to start berg at RG next year and the other guy should take over his RT position
November 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
In all fairness what evidence do we have to think DA will “right the ship”?
Seriously?
The team has regressed horribly since he took over.
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We have no evidence
November 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
62.ArmChair GM Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson Al Saunders offense, with a quality Defensive Coordinator, along with a healthy Mcfadden would have ran away with this division.
But that was not part of Reggie Mckenzie’s relocate to LA plan.
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Now your just venting and talkin bs. Who would you want as the Raider GM?
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Tom Gamble or De Costa would be on my interview list
November 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
does anyone know how many years knapp contract is? 2 years?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Need to start berg at RG next year and the other guy should take over his RT position
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????????????????? who is this other guy?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
NINERS AGAIN
November 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The Raiders have plenty of problems…. Palmers isn’t one of them….
My take is lack of talent… I admit I thought they had more talent than they really have ….
And wheather you like zone blocking or not scheme doesn’t cause personal fouls.. Dropped passes , allowing record runs on our D , special teams allowing returns for Tds. Adams fumbling or the other teams field goal team faking a Fg and scoring a Td..or poor pass defense …… …plenty of NFL teams run the zone blocking scheme…… I not dating tits the right scheme for the Raiders… But I am saying that not why we’re losing…. It’s talent… The Raiders don’t have enough of it……. The Raiders biggest problem… Poor play…. The Qb is fine…
November 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I feel bad for Palmer. First the Bengals, now this.
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wait till he goes back to cincy 2 weeks from now..he may retire right after that game..
November 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
The Niners are everything the Raiders arent.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Well Lechler will be gone so that’ll free up some $$$…Seymour, Kelly, McClain…we’ll have some buyout money to pay out but we’ll see what Reggie can do.
I am so disgusted right now.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
62.ArmChair GM Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson Al Saunders offense, with a quality Defensive Coordinator, along with a healthy Mcfadden would have ran away with this division.
But that was not part of Reggie Mckenzie’s relocate to LA plan.
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Now your just venting and talkin bs. Who would you want as the Raider GM?
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Tom Gamble or De Costa would be on my interview list
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Lets keep brining in new GM’s year after year, makes very good sense. just one question, your not a troll right? just want to make sure i don’t waste my FOOTBALL IQ on a troll
November 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
The Niners are everything the Raiders arent.
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Gay?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
DA will “right the ship”
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Reggie has this ship listing to the starboard side and it’s about to keel over.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Mark should be calling Reggie into his office RIGHT NOW and asking him “what the hell is going on”?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Lol… iPhone… I’m not saying it the right scheme…. Lol… Hate spell check on these damn phones
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Ya theyre gay McD,….like Alex Smith?…he married a Raiderette. Scoreboard.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Under the dubious leadership of carcass Palmer the raiders are a lifeless turd. The season is lost & Palmer can do nothing about it.
Soon you must give the keys to tp6, as Palmer has failed .
Even some of palmers greatest and most devout blog worshipers are now jumping ship and bailing on Palmer. So far the golden haired hero has 5 turnovers in theast two games and his fails comebacks in atl and tb are the beacons in an otherwise drab season.
This is awful just as I told you it would be.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Over-reacting fans and trolls are combining together to ruin the blog , 1st year GM , calm the f8kk down, .. this message only to the over-reacting fans only, trolls continue
November 11th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Let’s go Rams!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Seems to Mcfadden20 is the only troll on here today. Maybe planted by the fat freckled one.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Sometimes it’s like we’re cursed or something… Can’t believe the lack of progress on defense… Fk..
November 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Tough year for Andy Reid.
Loses his son and now…his job.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Ya theyre gay McD,….like Alex Smith?…he married a Raiderette. Scoreboard.
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OK sully
November 11th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Lets keep brining in new GM’s year after year, makes very good sense. just one question, your not a troll right? just want to make sure i don’t waste my FOOTBALL IQ on a troll
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They asked who I would want…I answered…No I don’t want to bring in new GM’s every year, but all these coaches shouldn’t be here another year. They bring NOTHING to the table.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
F8k almost put a dagger into the heart of sully
November 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
WOW wtf there was a penalty after 5 minutes? wow
November 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
The fix is in in SF
November 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Niners blessed, Raiders cursed.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
@TheFakeESPN: The Raiders got murdered today, and they weren’t even close to their parking lot.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Niners blessed, Raiders cursed.
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Yeah ur right sully
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Strike one McD
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
How dumb was Jeff Fisher. How did that idiot call a time out when they got 1st and goal at the 2 leaving the 49’s over a minute to come back and tie the game. He should be shot.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Under the dubious leadership of carcass Palmer the raiders are a lifeless turd. The season is lost & Palmer can do nothing about it.
Soon you must give the keys to tp6, as Palmer has failed .
Even some of palmers greatest and most devout blog worshipers are now jumping ship and bailing on Palmer. So far the golden haired hero has 5 turnovers in theast two games and his fails comebacks in atl and tb are the beacons in an otherwise drab season.
This is awful just as I told you it would be.
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YOU are the turd. No legitimate takes just spouting off idiotic, ill informed b.s.
Only a football retard like you would fail to even mention the horrible defense as a factor in the season.
Dumbest, thick skulled poster this blog has ever seen. And that is saying something.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
So freaking lucky there , a late late penalty saved the whiners and sully
November 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Yep, Reid’s had a tough yr… Gotta feel for the guy…
November 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
DAARAIDERS Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
How dumb was Jeff Fisher. How did that idiot call a time out when they got 1st and goal at the 2 leaving the 49’s over a minute to come back and tie the game. He should be shot.
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Real dumb , hue type dumbness
November 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Niners are winners, Raiders are losers.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Under the dubious leadership of carcass Palmer the raiders are a lifeless turd. The season is lost & Palmer can do nothing about it.
Soon you must give the keys to tp6, as Palmer has failed .
Even some of palmers greatest and most devout blog worshipers are now jumping ship and bailing on Palmer. So far the golden haired hero has 5 turnovers in theast two games and his fails comebacks in atl and tb are the beacons in an otherwise drab season.
This is awful just as I told you it would be.
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YOU are the turd. No legitimate takes just spouting off idiotic, ill informed b.s.
Only a football retard like you would fail to even mention the horrible defense as a factor in the season.
Dumbest, thick skulled poster this blog has ever seen. And that is saying something.
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I use to think he’s a fan of this team but just got an agenda towards Palmer, but after our D allowed 55 points and he’s here blaming Palmer for everything i figured he’s just a troll
November 11th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Crabtree with big gain.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Niners are winners, Raiders are losers.
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NO, they are not winners, if they were , their loser fans wouldn’t troll Raiders sites
November 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Fangsraiders is currently crying that 0bama has been re-elected, and will go down as the second-best President since FDR (trailing only Bill Clinton)… ===== THE WORDS OF A COMPLETE MORON….KEEP WORKING HARD DUCK SO YOUR TAXES PAY FOR THE FREE FOOD YOUR PET BABOONS GET!!! “GIBS ME MO FOOD STAMPS OBAMMO ” ~ signed every baboon
November 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Crabtree refused to meet with Raiders. Smart move if there ever was one.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
McD,..just keep this game on a few monre minutes,..you will see what winning looks like.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
fangsraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Fangsraiders is currently crying that 0bama has been re-elected, and will go down as the second-best President since FDR (trailing only Bill Clinton)… ===== THE WORDS OF A COMPLETE MORON….KEEP WORKING HARD DUCK SO YOUR TAXES PAY FOR THE FREE FOOD YOUR PET BABOONS GET!!! “GIBS ME MO FOOD STAMPS OBAMMO ” ~ signed every baboon
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OK Troll
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Anybody thinking Palmers the Raiders problem just isn’t watching… …
I’m glad he’s the Qb…
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
For once and for all the coaching sucked, the D sucked, the O line sucked and Palmer sucked.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Lol,…Niners are very impressive,..coming back with backup,…Raiders lose by 35…LMAO.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
McD,..just keep this game on a few monre minutes,..you will see what winning looks like.
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Keep trolling so i know what losers look like
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
1) Al davis should have had a GM in place IMO so we wouldnt have a new owner, GM , and coach at the same time
speed rusher /playmaker at DE is biggest need. it will help the DT and CBs
2)no cap issue excuse for 2013
3) Reggie’s 2012 moves regardless of cap situations havent been stellar. Reggie like DA has alot to prove.
4)Reggie has to decide now if Palmer will be here next year. His 9-12 mil could bring in 3 quality defensive players or OL and before we draft a QB we need to find out about TP6. give pryor minimum of 5 or 6 games
5)Seymour, Kelly, Lechler will free up alot of money , but Reggie cant take risks on players like bartels, spencer..etc
6) WRs like criner and streater are a dime a dozen, we need a legit #1 WR
7) Branch will be here because reggie franchised him and then restructured his deal and he is a big hit if he’s cut next year.
9) Knapp must go- its good karma
10) Rolando must go- its good karma
11) keep Jano
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
49ers have a REAL coach….simple
November 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
It’s gonna be a fun week in here.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Rams blew it.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I knew it all along your were sully , keep trolling, your a loser still , your team may be winning , but that’s not changing your loser mentality
November 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Fangs, they have a real GM.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
fangsraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
49ers have a REAL coach….simple
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We have real fans
November 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
McD,…ya a little angry?…just enjoy another Niner win!!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
the Raiders DIED when Al Davis DIED …end of story.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Rams blew it.
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YUP , let them off the hook
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
McD dont let 3-6 eat you alive. Poor baby.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
McD,…ya a little angry?…just enjoy another Niner win!!
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As long we attract trolls like you, we’re the real winners
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson Al Saunders offense, with a quality Defensive Coordinator, along with a healthy Mcfadden would have ran away with this division.
But that was not part of Reggie Mckenzie’s relocate to LA plan.
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Coulda had more success this year than ever or with any move to LA if he’d just got a bona fide DC and kept Bush. But he didn’t give Hue a chance, hired a green DA, and in turn hired knapp, thus we have the reason for our mess.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
fangsraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
the Raiders DIED when Al Davis DIED …end of story.
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really? ok loser
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Chip shot for the win, lol…party time in SF.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
49ers play PHYSICAL = WINNER
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
WOW
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
WHAT???????????????????????????????????
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Who the hell comes on here and talks about the Niners?
Idiot….
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson Al Saunders offense, with a quality Defensive Coordinator, along with a healthy Mcfadden would have ran away with this division.
But that was not part of Reggie Mckenzie’s relocate to LA plan.
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Coulda had more success this year than ever or with any move to LA if he’d just got a bona fide DC and kept Bush. But he didn’t give Hue a chance, hired a green DA, and in turn hired knapp, thus we have the reason for our mess.
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TROLL
November 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Just to drag on McD`s agony a little while longer. LMAO
November 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Not so quick sully hhahahhaah
November 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
132.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Chip shot for the win, lol…party time in SF.
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HA HA
November 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Nycraider… Palmers signed till 2016…. Don’t know if Pryors in the plans or not… But if he is I think Palmers a good mentor… I’d hate to see Pryor get thrown into this team the way it sits right now … Could ruin him…
November 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAH AHAHHAA @ SULLY
November 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
SULLY DISAPPEARS HAHAHAHHAA
November 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Did you just learn the word Troll?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
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Not true. Trolls don’t feed trolls (I don’t take you to be a troll tho other people do) even tho you do. Just I don’t buy the party line does not make me a troll. knapp sucks. You know this.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Did you just learn the word Troll?
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No but hard time resisting calling troll a troll when i see one
November 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
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Not true. Trolls don’t feed trolls (I don’t take you to be a troll tho other people do) even tho you do. Just I don’t buy the party line does not make me a troll. knapp sucks. You know this.
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Troll is a troll no matter how you put it
November 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
That Danny guy is a bad mo fro.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I will still stick to my prediction. Palmer has to much pride and the team will play for each other as team mates in spite of knapp and DA. Players will get together and say ‘fck these dumbass coaches and knapp, lets win it for ouselves and the fans’.
Oaktown 34
Norleans 17
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Lol. Doesn’t matter how bad the team looks, how bad we get spanked. Idiots on this blog will still toss up prayers.
Lol.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
JAckson is running all over the whiners .. HAHAHHAHAHA
November 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Did you just learn the word Troll?
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No but hard time resisting calling troll a troll when i see one
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You’ve reverted to ‘the sky is falling’ routine to many times with the troll accusations.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
My opinion is Pryor show just learn all he can right now… Hopefully they get the oline straightened out and in a couple yrs have Pryor ready to go..
November 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Every week is different , you have to believe every week
November 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Yeah E Reptile, we’d kill the Niners, Texans, Giants, and Patriots too, wouldn’t we?
What an idiot.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
DAARAIDERS Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
How dumb was Jeff Fisher. How did that idiot call a time out when they got 1st and goal at the 2 leaving the 49’s over a minute to come back and tie the game. He should be shot.
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Wouldn’t call him that dumb…He has his team(less-talented) in OT on the road against one of the better teams in the NFL.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
No but hard time resisting calling troll a troll when i see one
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Step away from the mirror.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Come on D!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
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Lol. Doesn’t matter how bad the team looks, how bad we get spanked. Idiots on this blog will still toss up prayers.
Lol.
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We shall see.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I will still stick to my prediction. Palmer has to much pride and the team will play for each other as team mates in spite of knapp and DA. Players will get together and say ‘fck these dumbass coaches and knapp, lets win it for ouselves and the fans’.
Oaktown 34
Norleans 17
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Lol. Doesn’t matter how bad the team looks, how bad we get spanked. Idiots on this blog will still toss up prayers.
Lol.
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Agreed
November 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Pryor will be ready to roll 5 years from now. Pryor and Taiwan in 2017.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Did you just learn the word Troll?
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No but hard time resisting calling troll a troll when i see one
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You’ve reverted to ‘the sky is falling’ routine to many times with the troll accusations.
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Nah i don’t have that kinda attitude, infact no one does in here, it’s just trolls like your trying their to get Raider fans get as much negative as possible about this team
November 11th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I have to honestly say I don’t see a way out for this franchise. Mark Davis seems like a weak owner who probably wouldn’t know when to pull the trigger on new management. What’s more, he’s probably got his ears out for offers to sell to LA interests. No upside to the Raiders as far as I can see and that’s sad.
November 11th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Niner fans get ready to be butthurt
November 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Some of you monkeys need some time away from here.
Get a room, exchange emails, but do us a favor and stop posting.
I’m sick of having to skip over 50 posts just to be able to read a good post from one of the semis.
Y
November 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
WHAAAT?
November 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
WOW , WOW , WOW WOW, CAN WHINERS get more luckier than that
November 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
YAHOOO!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
OUCH!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RAMS F*CKKINg s8ck
November 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Some of you monkeys need some time away from here.
Get a room, exchange emails, but do us a favor and stop posting.
I’m sick of having to skip over 50 posts just to be able to read a good post from one of the semis.
You Monkeys are destroying this place.
Go argue somewhere else.
Effin Monkeys!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Nah i don’t have that kinda attitude, infact no one does in here, it’s just trolls like your trying their to get Raider fans get as much negative as possible about this team
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Right… Even tho I think and hope the Raiders can go rogue on knapp and pull out a victory next week in spite of knapp and his meddling, that make me a troll? Hardly. Keep buying the party line, it will help you more in a time of need if this ship does indded sink.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Kaepernick, the wave of the future? I don’t think so.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
YYYAAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
The Rams are as dumb as the Raiders. Timeout when they had 1st and goal at the two letting 49’s come back and tie. Then no timeout and 5yd penalty negating the winning field goal. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb
November 11th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Rams much better then the Raiders.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Nah i don’t have that kinda attitude, infact no one does in here, it’s just trolls like your trying their to get Raider fans get as much negative as possible about this team
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Right… Even tho I think and hope the Raiders can go rogue on knapp and pull out a victory next week in spite of knapp and his meddling, that make me a troll? Hardly. Keep buying the party line, it will help you more in a time of need if this ship does indded sink.
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I got you confused with the other guy, ma bad
November 11th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RAIDERS FANS >> WHINERS FANS
November 11th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
3-6 >> 7-2
November 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Chuck B >> knapp
November 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
176.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
YYYAAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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HA HA
November 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Might see our first tie of the year!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
DANG YOU BABY HOWIE!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Wouldn’t b the worst thing for rams if they get the tie after trying their hardest to give the game away
November 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Desperation wish list #1….
Mike Holmgreen for HC anybody?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
NINERS WILL GET THE BALL BACK WITH A MINUTE TO PLAY!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
ohioraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I have to honestly say I don’t see a way out for this franchise. Mark Davis seems like a weak owner who probably wouldn’t know when to pull the trigger on new management. What’s more, he’s probably got his ears out for offers to sell to LA interests. No upside to the Raiders as far as I can see and that’s sad.
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You’re right. Sell majority interest, move to LA and start fresh.
Screw it.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
NINERS WILL GET THE BALL BACK WITH A MINUTE TO PLAY!!!!!
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SULLY TELL YOUR MOM TO QUIT LAUGHING!!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
AW COME ON REF YOU SUCK!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
DA is fine, next year he should get a chance to get a better O.co .. the poor guy got hired so late , he had to settle with Knapp
November 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
I thought this was a unfortunate tactical error as well. They had plenty of time with 3 t/o’s if needed. That should not have been called.
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DAARAIDERS Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
How dumb was Jeff Fisher. How did that idiot call a time out when they got 1st and goal at the 2 leaving the 49’s over a minute to come back and tie the game. He should be shot.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
FUMBLE!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
187.E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Desperation wish list #1….
Mike Holmgreen for HC anybody?
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Noooooooo. If DA gets replaced I go with Chris Peterson.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
These refs are awful.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Gonna end in a tie.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
How much did the Whiners pay these refs?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
WOW refs are totally on WHINERS SIDE WTF ,
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
The refs are trying their best to help the niners win….
November 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
How much did the Whiners pay these refs?
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Seriously , pathetic
November 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
LOL BRADFORD FALLS DOWN.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
TIE
November 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
WOW just lay down why don’t ya’ come on Bradford.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
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A tie.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
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Losing by 35. But a tie is a mini victory for the Rams and a mini loss for SF.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Every time I think the Raiders have hit rock bottom they manage to sink even lower. This organization is truly a black hole.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
The rams beat the niners but the refs made it a tie!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
WOW,..THATS PATHETIC,…(LOSING BY 35 I MEAN OF COURSE)
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Rams should have won this game, clearly outplayed the Whiners , f8kin stupid miscues, mistakes, can’t wait to watch Fisher’s WHINERS are who we thought they were speech
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Aldon Smith is a beast. We need to draft a pass rusher.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
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Losing by 35. But a tie is a mini victory for the Rams and a mini loss for SF.
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MINI LOSS for SF?? SF got lucky to get the tie, they got outplayed in this game
November 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
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November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
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What’s worse. A real fan or a pathetic front running beyotch?
Discuss.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Aldon Smith is a beast. We need to draft a pass rusher.
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YEah man #1 DE in FA or 1st rd pick on DE
November 11th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
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Losing by 35. But a tie is a mini victory for the Rams and a mini loss for SF.
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MINI LOSS for SF?? SF got lucky to get the tie, they got outplayed in this game
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Well the tie is not a win, so both team lose.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Raider8 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider8 Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
*****
What’s worse. A real fan or a pathetic front running beyotch?
Discuss.
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Front running beyotch or trolls if you want to call them , hands down
November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
WOW,..THATS PATHETIC,…(LOSING BY 35 I MEAN OF COURSE)
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WOW…THATS PATHETIC, (FRONT RUNNING PHAGGOT )
November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
WHATS WORSE,..A TIE OR LOSING BY 35? DISCUSS.
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Losing by 35. But a tie is a mini victory for the Rams and a mini loss for SF.
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MINI LOSS for SF?? SF got lucky to get the tie, they got outplayed in this game
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Well the tie is not a win, so both team lose.
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Yeah , but rams gave that away and Refs saved whiners from a real loss
November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The Raiders are barely interesting anymore and I never thought I would say that. They just have no drawing power anymore. I didn’t even see the game and I’m not sure I want to. If someone had said taht to me 2 years ago I’d have punched them in the face. Now I’d just agree and move on….
November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Wow a tie blows, watching the fans walk out the stick they were trippin, not sure to be happy or mad,…oh well,…good luck next sunday fellers, Saints coming,…try and make a game of it wont ya?…at least the first half anyway…ciao.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
what’s worse phaggots or trolls?
I would say trolls are like pedophiles
November 11th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
i respects flaco he was laughing and piss taking like his hc
November 11th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
wasnt
November 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Priest,..call Gary about it tomorrow,..they will take your call, thanks to me,..youre welcome. Show some gratitude dude.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Wow a tie blows, watching the fans walk out the stick they were trippin, not sure to be happy or mad,…oh well,…good luck next sunday fellers, Saints coming,…try and make a game of it wont ya?…at least the first half anyway…ciao.
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Hopefully you got something to do besides trolling , i don’t wanna see your suicide news on San Jose Mercury… have a good 1
November 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Whiners with a tie. Same as losing. fk the 9rs
Nice job Rams.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I think we should draft a pass rusher with our 1st pick. Good pass rushers are too expensive in FA, and this team needs to add a load of new talent especially on defense.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
L dont live in the bay area anymore ese,…made it out years ago,…up in Tahoe now,..paradise.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I
November 11th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I think we should draft a pass rusher with our 1st pick. Good pass rushers are too expensive in FA, and this team needs to add a load of new talent especially on defense.
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That’s true, need upgrade on both End Positions, should move houston to DT next to Bryant,
maybe 1 FA DE and 1 Drafted DE
November 11th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Raider O
I’m starting to agree. Pass rush is non existant.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Wow the special teams coach hasn’t been fired?
That guys is still returning punts?
Memo to GM:
Reggie Mac please look into these matters or we will have to start evaluating the performance of your twin brother.
I can remember worse defensive Coords. (Breznightmare)
I can remember worse offensive Coords. (Bed and Breakfast though only slightly worse than Knapperoo)
But I cannot remember a worse special teams coaching performance?
Turnovers and/or big returns EVERY WEEK
November 11th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
L dont live in the bay area anymore ese,…made it out years ago,…up in Tahoe now,..paradise.
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your mind is still a loser, a person doesn’t become a winner just by moving to a nice place
November 11th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The Raiders are barely interesting anymore and I never thought I would say that. They just have no drawing power anymore. I didn’t even see the game and I’m not sure I want to. If someone had said taht to me 2 years ago I’d have punched them in the face. Now I’d just agree and move on….
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My biggest fear with Al passing was that new new Raiders would lose the outcast image and become vanilla. Now it’s all falling into place.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Im sorry youre angry little dude,..but Im not sorry I had everything to do with it.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Only rich people and their servants live in Tahoe.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Where is the Mr P/I man? I want his take on this. Need to see it in perspective.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Im sorry youre angry little dude,..but Im not sorry I had everything to do with it.
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again, stop day dreaming, there isn’t anyone your making mad, in fact your a nice little troll to take our minds off the game , so we thank you for it, thanks for the help troll
November 11th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
229.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
L dont live in the bay area anymore ese,…made it out years ago,…up in Tahoe now,..paradise.
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I’m guessing that you work at some cheap casino selling 49′r pom pom’s?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I bet gruden goes to Philly
November 11th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
DWIGHT FREENEY, CLIFF AVRIL AND OSI are AVAILABlE NEXT YEAR, ALL OLD but can still can pass rush, which of these guys would you guys throw the money at?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Should-Raiders-be-ruffled-by-Ravens-fake?blockID=800633&feedID=2801
Fake field goal or not, DA has to be ready for anything.
If there is any positive to come out of this ass waxing, hopefully it will piss the Raiders off so bad that they will throttle Norleans next Sunday. You can only be humiliated for so long before you decide enough is enough. Raiders have got to win, by any means necessary.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
dang those bears get a takeaway 7 seconds in
November 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Aldon Smith is a beast. We need to draft a pass rusher.
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YEah man #1 DE in FA or 1st rd pick on DE
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Wow. Our Dline is not great, but our o-line is grease fire… I can’t imagine the stats CP could put up with more time.
Draft o-linemen and keep drafting them.
Defense is mostly coaching.
Our coaching stinks… lets stop putting lipstick on this pig.
Well coached teams do not let other teams put up 42 and 55 points in the NFL. I don’t care what players you have.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Already threw a bone to Andre Carter. Something is not jiving with the D line.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
He was down, You guys need to watch these 2 teams and watch the pass rush, then all you guys will change your mind
November 11th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
niners are making stadium renovations…half the seats though, apparently they want to sit on each other…
November 11th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I say that if we are going to lose we might as well live up to our reputation as dirty football players.
We are going to get cheap penalties anyway, make them count.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
mctroll20 dennis allen wanted to cry…
November 11th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Gdog Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Aldon Smith is a beast. We need to draft a pass rusher.
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YEah man #1 DE in FA or 1st rd pick on DE
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Wow. Our Dline is not great, but our o-line is grease fire… I can’t imagine the stats CP could put up with more time.
Draft o-linemen and keep drafting them.
Defense is mostly coaching.
Our coaching stinks… lets stop putting lipstick on this pig.
Well coached teams do not let other teams put up 42 and 55 points in the NFL. I don’t care what players you have.
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Mostly coaching too but Pass rush is the main culprit behind it, just watch the TB play again where Freeman connected with VJax for 66 yards on a 3rd and 16 play , 4 man rush , pass rush is no where near Freeman, that should never happen on 3rd and long play
November 11th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Nighty night peeps,…shake off todays humiliation, maybe your team will show some pride in a week,…but Im here to tell you, the Raiders died 13 months ago,..what you got now is a rudderless team thats going nowhere, except maybe LA…take care.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
mctroll20 dennis allen wanted to cry…
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Keep trolling i love it , you’re doing a pretty good job getting my mind off the disastrous game ,, thank you troll
November 11th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Nighty night peeps,…shake off todays humiliation, maybe your team will show some pride in a week,…but Im here to tell you, the Raiders died 13 months ago,..what you got now is a rudderless team thats going nowhere, except maybe LA…take care.
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HAHAHAHAH okay
November 11th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The Raiders have allowed: 55, 42, 37, and 35 points so far this season, all losses… and there are still seven games left with Brees coming in next week. I’m guessing he will stick at least 45 on us.
And people are still pretending Allen and Tarver are the answer.
Shrug
November 11th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
but mctroll20 you had to see dennis allen holding back the tears…he knows reggie will save his own asz before a crybaby….
November 11th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Palmer worshipers are left spinning having hitched third wagons to the over hyped turn over machines & stuck in the mud.
” some of the more radical members of the fan basewant to see Terrell’ Pryor”. -cork
I wondered out loud what & whom was meant by radical members . Out of nowhere 10 posters claimed it Assad directed at me personally. I disagreed but do believe that “radical” was used as a negative way to paint any fan that wnts to see Pryor.
My how the worm is turned as it now seems that the “radical members of the Dan base” are those wild eyed Palmer fans that want to see Palmer remain through the end of a miserable losing season.
Guys like s& b, j hill, jlofty, & others have conceded & now realize the folly of heir way after drinking the Palmer koolaid. They have admitted Palmer isn’t the answer as I said before his arrival. Oh sure they all hated me for saying so but they have since waived the white flag
Then you have jfb, suggesting something really radical …. Trading Palmer. Again from a golden hair hero worshipped to a guy suggesting we pull the plug & ship off the guy we paid tons of Money and ruined 2 drafts for.
Surley trading Palmer is far more radical than playing a young prospect at the end of a string of meaningless games.
Palmer losing fans one loss at a time
November 11th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
but mctroll20 you had to see dennis allen holding back the tears…he knows reggie will save his own asz before a crybaby….
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WHiners fans calling Raiders fans trolls on Raiders blog
that’s funny sh1t
November 11th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
This is the worst raider team and u cant blame it on bad al davis drafts
No way, no siree bob, I aint drinking that koolaid
November 11th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Palmer worshipers are left spinning having hitched third wagons to the over hyped turn over machines & stuck in the mud.
” some of the more radical members of the fan basewant to see Terrell’ Pryor”. -cork
I wondered out loud what & whom was meant by radical members . Out of nowhere 10 posters claimed it Assad directed at me personally. I disagreed but do believe that “radical” was used as a negative way to paint any fan that wnts to see Pryor.
My how the worm is turned as it now seems that the “radical members of the Dan base” are those wild eyed Palmer fans that want to see Palmer remain through the end of a miserable losing season.
Guys like s& b, j hill, jlofty, & others have conceded & now realize the folly of heir way after drinking the Palmer koolaid. They have admitted Palmer isn’t the answer as I said before his arrival. Oh sure they all hated me for saying so but they have since waived the white flag
Then you have jfb, suggesting something really radical …. Trading Palmer. Again from a golden hair hero worshipped to a guy suggesting we pull the plug & ship off the guy we paid tons of Money and ruined 2 drafts for.
Surley trading Palmer is far more radical than playing a young prospect at the end of a string of meaningless games.
Palmer losing fans one loss at a time
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No credibility in the post for obvious reasons, dumb troll
November 11th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
this is my first post here i am angry as everyone here but if you think carson palmer is the problem you are blind a non existint running game a line that cant pass block a d line that gets zero pressure and recievers that drop balls. I get it carson pisses me off every now and then but he is far from the problem with this team.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
“No, nothing surprised me” dennis allen on the fake fg…soooo all
this time you were planning on getting your aszz reamed?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
D give up 55 points, let get rid of our QB , ahhahahaha dumb trolls
November 11th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Gruden2013 escaped the Bay Area and is now in Tahoe cleaning toilets for the rich.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
How bout that Mike Vick guy. My jizz idol
November 11th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Twocents Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Gruden2013 escaped the Bay Area and is now in Tahoe cleaning toilets for the rich.
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HAHAHHAA
November 11th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Mostly coaching too but Pass rush is the main culprit behind it, just watch the TB play again where Freeman connected with VJax for 66 yards on a 3rd and 16 play , 4 man rush , pass rush is no where near Freeman, that should never happen on 3rd and long play.
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Good coaches do other things to get to the QB. The OC’s have figured out our tendencies weeks ago… and our blitzes are horribly designed. The commentators could hardly stop from laughing when we ran that delayed blitz with two safeties. It took over 4 seconds for both to arrive when most NFL QB’s have the ball released in 3.
These coaches are OVER THEIR HEADS.
Its not the players.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I can’t believe Carolina will be picking # 1 again after picking Cam 2 years ago , Cam makes Jamarcus look like Hall of Famer
November 11th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Al_is_theraiders is my jizz idol.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
This is regie mac n cheese bad hire of d allen
an it starts there, then u got knap, who destroyed the ofense
November 11th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
You can’t absolve Palmer he had 2 turnovers in a miserable blow out loss. He is now leading the worst team in all of sports not just football.
Wow this is a far cry from jc & his 4-2 first place raiders.
Instant upgrade has turned into instant laughing stock
November 11th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Gdog Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Mostly coaching too but Pass rush is the main culprit behind it, just watch the TB play again where Freeman connected with VJax for 66 yards on a 3rd and 16 play , 4 man rush , pass rush is no where near Freeman, that should never happen on 3rd and long play.
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Good coaches do other things to get to the QB. The OC’s have figured out our tendencies weeks ago… and our blitzes are horribly designed. The commentators could hardly stop from laughing when we ran that delayed blitz with two safeties. It took over 4 seconds for both to arrive when most NFL QB’s have the ball released in 3.
These coaches are OVER THEIR HEADS.
Its not the players.
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No dude, our D s8cked last year too , that’s when we had that former NYG Dline coach , problem is Houston is DT, Shaugnessy s8cks after the injury… Need 2 new starters at DE next year
November 11th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
alright, it’s official. the raiders suck. i still love ‘em, but it’s true. and for the first time, i’m feeling like maybe this coaching staff should be fired.
when i think about the facts, the offense has taken a MAJOR step back from last year, with only one new player (brisiel for satele, a supposed upgrade!).
and the defense still sucks. no pass rush. mcclain still involved (2 tackles!). prone to giving up the big play (we outgained the ravens by 3 yards), meaning major breakdowns on plays.
i do not see improvement in any phase of the game other than passing (the great carson palmer working miracles).
it’s safe to say with a 3.0 yards per carry, the run game is not necessarily dmc’s fault.
but reggie will have some good draft picks, and with some big contracts gone, some ability in the free agent market.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
OK just kidding
Mistic is my Jizz idol
November 11th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
You can’t absolve Palmer he had 2 turnovers in a miserable blow out loss. He is now leading the worst team in all of sports not just football.
Wow this is a far cry from jc & his 4-2 first place raiders.
Instant upgrade has turned into instant laughing stock
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No worst team is Carolina Panthers led by yours trully Cam Newton, he was their saviour but instead he going to lead them to another #1 pick , and he will be out of football , atleast Russel was in the nfl 3 years
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
alright, it’s official. the raiders suck. i still love ‘em, but it’s true. and for the first time, i’m feeling like maybe this coaching staff should be fired.
when i think about the facts, the offense has taken a MAJOR step back from last year, with only one new player (brisiel for satele, a supposed upgrade!).
and the defense still sucks. no pass rush. mcclain still involved (2 tackles!). prone to giving up the big play (we outgained the ravens by 3 yards), meaning major breakdowns on plays.
i do not see improvement in any phase of the game other than passing (the great carson palmer working miracles).
it’s safe to say with a 3.0 yards per carry, the run game is not necessarily dmc’s fault.
but reggie will have some good draft picks, and with some big contracts gone, some ability in the free agent market.
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So DE first pick ?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I love Palmer I am stoked to have a “Real” QB.
Beat it Mystic1 your trolling days are over Palmer love is deep in here!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
You can’t absolve Palmer he had 2 turnovers in a miserable blow out loss. He is now leading the worst team in all of sports not just football.
Wow this is a far cry from jc & his 4-2 first place raiders.
Instant upgrade has turned into instant laughing stock
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has to be the biggest moron in the world.
368 yards. 2 td’s/1 int. fumble not his fault. 95.4 qb rating.
there is no more proof needed that this idiot is just trying to cause trouble. no sane person could think this way. he is to be ignored completely.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Palmer worshipers are left spinning having hitched third wagons to the over hyped turn over machines & stuck in the mud.
” some of the more radical members of the fan basewant to see Terrell’ Pryor”. -cork
I wondered out loud what & whom was meant by radical members . Out of nowhere 10 posters claimed it Assad directed at me personally. I disagreed but do believe that “radical” was used as a negative way to paint any fan that wnts to see Pryor.
My how the worm is turned as it now seems that the “radical members of the Dan base” are those wild eyed Palmer fans that want to see Palmer remain through the end of a miserable losing season.
Guys like s& b, j hill, jlofty, & others have conceded & now realize the folly of heir way after drinking the Palmer koolaid. They have admitted Palmer isn’t the answer as I said before his arrival. Oh sure they all hated me for saying so but they have since waived the white flag
Then you have jfb, suggesting something really radical …. Trading Palmer. Again from a golden hair hero worshipped to a guy suggesting we pull the plug & ship off the guy we paid tons of Money and ruined 2 drafts for.
Surley trading Palmer is far more radical than playing a young prospect at the end of a string of meaningless games.
Palmer losing fans one loss at a time
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Let me guess… you keep winning in Madden when you play Pryor at QB?
Nobody is this stupid.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Sorry a 7-12 record & a down don’t laughable 30 turnovers in 19 games including 5 insuring this current losing streak
Please explain how this is not a problem
November 11th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m going to LMFAO if Cam leads Car to #1 pick , they should have st8ck with the other guy, atleast wouldn’t have wasted so much money on p*ssy like him
November 11th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
“No worst team is Carolina Panthers led by yours trully Cam Newton, he was their saviour but instead he going to lead them to another #1 pick , and he will be out of football , atleast Russel was in the nfl 3 years”
So true and now with Vick out who’s balls will Mystic cling to?
November 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Did anybody else see DA’s excuse for not playing Jones? He said he was young, needs more experience and has fumble issues.
Last time i checked, Jones was in his second year, Stewart was in his FIRST! And how is he suppose to get more existence? Through osmosis while watching? Somebody needs to bench DA FOR BEING YOUNG AND NEEDING MORE EXPERIENCE!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
You can’t absolve Palmer he had 2 turnovers in a miserable blow out loss. He is now leading the worst team in all of sports not just football.
Wow this is a far cry from jc & his 4-2 first place raiders.
Instant upgrade has turned into instant laughing stock
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has to be the biggest moron in the world.
368 yards. 2 td’s/1 int. fumble not his fault. 95.4 qb rating.
there is no more proof needed that this idiot is just trying to cause trouble. no sane person could think this way. he is to be ignored completely.
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I use to think he’s a raider fan with an agenda, but after his trolling efforts today he proved he’s a troll
November 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
has to be the biggest moron in the world.
368 yards. 2 td’s/1 int. fumble not his fault. 95.4 qb rating.
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Not to mention at least 4 perfect passes clanged, one of them a TD.
This dude is either a very effective troll, or the stupidest person on the planet. I am hoping troll. Nobody is this stupid.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
“there is no more proof needed that this idiot is just trying to cause trouble. no sane person could think this way. he is to be ignored completely.”
So true…well put!
November 11th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
mcfadden20–pass rush is the biggest need of many. but if possible, i would take manti teo, because of the huge impact he would have on morale and fire. i have watched every game he has played for the irish, and he is the anti-mcclain.
pass rusher in 2nd or 3rd, and/or thru free agency.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
“No worst team is Carolina Panthers led by yours trully Cam Newton, he was their saviour but instead he going to lead them to another #1 pick , and he will be out of football , atleast Russel was in the nfl 3 years”
So true and now with Vick out who’s balls will Mystic cling to?
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HAHAHAHA i’m going to go out on a limb now
Jamarcus >>> Cam
November 11th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
280.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Sorry a 7-12 record & a down don’t laughable 30 turnovers in 19 games including 5 insuring this current losing streak
Please explain how this is not a problem
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The Jizz idol has spoken
November 11th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Did anybody else see DA’s excuse for not playing Jones? He said he was young, needs more experience and has fumble issues.
Last time i checked, Jones was in his second year, Stewart was in his FIRST! And how is he suppose to get more existence? Through osmosis while watching? Somebody needs to bench DA FOR BEING YOUNG AND NEEDING MORE EXPERIENCE!
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Not to mention he keeps playing Adams at punt returner who does nothing BESIDES fumble.
DA is completely over his head.
There is no other way to spin this. I just hope he improves soon.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Who wants to bet this guy Mistic guy is Gruden2013 LMAO @ living in tahoe, these guys have weird fantasies,
November 11th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
pretty sure mistic is sullivan–his methods are almost identical. just can’t beat him off with a stick. keeps pounding same message to death, no matter how ridiculous.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Michael bush just fumbled
November 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
CVRaider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Did anybody else see DA’s excuse for not playing Jones? He said he was young, needs more experience and has fumble issues.
Last time i checked, Jones was in his second year, Stewart was in his FIRST! And how is he suppose to get more existence? Through osmosis while watching? Somebody needs to bench DA FOR BEING YOUNG AND NEEDING MORE EXPERIENCE!
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Saw that…totally agree
November 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
pretty sure mistic is sullivan–his methods are almost identical. just can’t beat him off with a stick. keeps pounding same message to death, no matter how ridiculous.
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Yeah i meant to say SUllivan, Al _is the _Raiders, gruden and beech lol
November 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
safe to say DA hates taiwan. jones will never see the field under DA, that’s for sure. he’s listed as the 3rd RB, and plays behind our FB and the PS guy.
and adams should be cut.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
2 of my opponents have Houston D in the fantasy league ,Chicago is not doing me any favors
November 11th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Funny but you can’t excuse the turnovers & as the losses mount you can’t deny the correlation between the turn over prone qb & team futility.
7-12 30 turnovers in 19 games . In fact he has more turnovers than games played this year as well.
Wake up when you don’t have a qb that can protect the ball you have no shot.
Call me names if you like because you can’t explain or stand to acknowledge the turnovers or the qbs 7-12
November 11th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Funny but you can’t excuse the turnovers & as the losses mount you can’t deny the correlation between the turn over prone qb & team futility.
7-12 30 turnovers in 19 games . In fact he has more turnovers than games played this year as well.
Wake up when you don’t have a qb that can protect the ball you have no shot.
Call me names if you like because you can’t explain or stand to acknowledge the turnovers or the qbs 7-12
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HHAHAHAHAHA dude everytime you post i keep thinking about C Newton leading Car to # 1 pick hahaha, worse than J Russel
November 11th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
2003 > 2012
2004 > 2012
2005 > 2012
2006 > 2012
2007 > 2012
2008 > 2012
2009 > 2012
2010 > 2012
2011 > 2012
November 11th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I love watching this Texans offense that Knapp used ro run and call plays for, OH WAIT, he was just the qb coach! On top of that, they are better now without his sleepy azz around.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
ZBS doesn’t s8ck , it depends on who’s coaching it , we have a loser who can’t run a fire drill correctly
November 11th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I dont blame posters for trying to shift the focus to other qbs on other teams. Palmers raiders are an absolute eye sore.
Watching palmer clank balls off defenders again today he was nearly victimized for 4 picks watching home is like trying to drive a hot spike through my own eyeball. It is exceedingly difficult to do, & when I managed I was rewarded with unbearable horrific pain.
Palmer < tuiossosopo
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Like post 165. and you clowns calling for Prior? he couldn’t read the funny pages more less a defense ! You seriously want to see him running Knaps crap ? he doesn’t even suit up on Sundays
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I’m out
November 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Mistic who are the top Qb’s coming for next years draft, serious question?
November 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I’m out
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Your not out , you will be here on another ID
November 11th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
DA?
More like D.O.A
November 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
CHicago Bears OC probably worst than Gregg Knapp, going empty backfield every play on a rainy day
November 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Palmer has indeed made it hard to argue in his favor no matter what Raider fans want to believe. Nationally speaking he is looked upon as a highrisk passer. Only he can change that viewpoint. Perception often can become reality if you don’t change. He has too many t/o’s to be considered anywhere near elite.
I know most chaffe at the slightest notion of any criticism towards him. But the bottom line is he is the QB people will look at him first. Lots of yards a few TD’s is not enough to offset his penchant for costly t/o’s. He has to stop that if he is to hold onto that job beyond the next season. As much as posters in here hate the thought of it. Next year in training camp and preseason he will have a tough time keeping Pryor off the field.
I know most think Pryor is years away from starting, I’m here to tell ya’ it aint the case at all if he doesn’t get the “here a pick, there a pick, everywhere a pick pick” solved.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Palmer has indeed made it hard to argue in his favor no matter what Raider fans want to believe. Nationally speaking he is looked upon as a highrisk passer. Only he can change that viewpoint. Perception often can become reality if you don’t change. He has too many t/o’s to be considered anywhere near elite.
I know most chaffe at the slightest notion of any criticism towards him. But the bottom line is he is the QB people will look at him first. Lots of yards a few TD’s is not enough to offset his penchant for costly t/o’s. He has to stop that if he is to hold onto that job beyond the next season. As much as posters in here hate the thought of it. Next year in training camp and preseason he will have a tough time keeping Pryor off the field.
I know most think Pryor is years away from starting, I’m here to tell ya’ it aint the case at all if he doesn’t get the “here a pick, there a pick, everywhere a pick pick” solved.
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See i knew you would never leave Mistic , it’s too predictable now
November 11th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I’m out
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Thank you. The forum’s average IQ just went up 10 points.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Mistic who are the top Qb’s coming for next years draft, serious question?
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Why are u asking that football retard a question?
This is a guy who sees a team give up 55 pt’s. and surmises that the reason we lost is becuz the QB who threw for 368 yd’s and 2 td’s is the reason they lost.
If he wasn’t a gutless pu$$y he would tell u which team he REALLY roots for and then you could ask him which QB HIS team should draft.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
So Mistic who are the top Qb’s coming out for 2013 draft?
November 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
OklahomaRaider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Like post 165. and you clowns calling for Prior? he couldn’t read the funny pages more less a defense ! You seriously want to see him running Knaps crap ? he doesn’t even suit up on Sundays
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Things change quickly in sports son, Pryor is a much better QB than you guys want to believe. I know it hurts to accept the idea of it. But don’t get too comfortable, times they are a changing…….period
November 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Mistic who are the top Qb’s coming for next years draft, serious question?
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Why are u asking that football retard a question?
This is a guy who sees a team give up 55 pt’s. and surmises that the reason we lost is becuz the QB who threw for 368 yd’s and 2 td’s is the reason they lost.
If he wasn’t a gutless pu$$y he would tell u which team he REALLY roots for and then you could ask him which QB HIS team should draft.
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LOL so i can ask him which of those Qb’s will Carolina take after failed Cam Newton mess
November 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
No doubt that Palmer was frustrated in this game, how many of his passes were batted down?
I don’t know were the blame for that can be placed,
but he has to suck it up and keep on playing.
Thought it was significant that Leinart replaced him.
The beginning of the end?
November 11th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
OklahomaRaider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Like post 165. and you clowns calling for Prior? he couldn’t read the funny pages more less a defense ! You seriously want to see him running Knaps crap ? he doesn’t even suit up on Sundays
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Things change quickly in sports son, Pryor is a much better QB than you guys want to believe. I know it hurts to accept the idea of it. But don’t get too comfortable, times they are a changing…….period
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Car # 1 Pick next year hahahahahaha
November 11th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Palmer has indeed made it hard to argue in his favor no matter what Raider fans want to believe. Nationally speaking he is looked upon as a highrisk passer. Only he can change that viewpoint. Perception often can become reality if you don’t change. He has too many t/o’s to be considered anywhere near elite.
I know most chaffe at the slightest notion of any criticism towards him. But the bottom line is he is the QB people will look at him first. Lots of yards a few TD’s is not enough to offset his penchant for costly t/o’s. He has to stop that if he is to hold onto that job beyond the next season. As much as posters in here hate the thought of it. Next year in training camp and preseason he will have a tough time keeping Pryor off the field.
I know most think Pryor is years away from starting, I’m here to tell ya’ it aint the case at all if he doesn’t get the “here a pick, there a pick, everywhere a pick pick” solved.
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Oh lookie… a new ID. Same Madden-playing IQ. Pryor really keeps racking up the wins for you on Madden does he?
November 11th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Twocents Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
No doubt that Palmer was frustrated in this game, how many of his passes were batted down?
I don’t know were the blame for that can be placed,
but he has to suck it up and keep on playing.
Thought it was significant that Leinart replaced him.
The beginning of the end?
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No, just waving the white flag at the point of the game
November 11th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
317,
There ya go McFadden. Lol.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
OklahomaRaider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Like post 165. and you clowns calling for Prior? he couldn’t read the funny pages more less a defense ! You seriously want to see him running Knaps crap ? he doesn’t even suit up on Sundays
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Things change quickly in sports son, Pryor is a much better QB than you guys want to believe. I know it hurts to accept the idea of it. But don’t get too comfortable, times they are a changing…….period
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Most normal people with an IQ over 50, and over the age of 12 don’t form NFL opinions by playing Madden.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Palmer has indeed made it hard to argue in his favor no matter what Raider fans want to believe. Nationally speaking he is looked upon as a highrisk passer. Only he can change that viewpoint. Perception often can become reality if you don’t change. He has too many t/o’s to be considered anywhere near elite.
I know most chaffe at the slightest notion of any criticism towards him. But the bottom line is he is the QB people will look at him first. Lots of yards a few TD’s is not enough to offset his penchant for costly t/o’s. He has to stop that if he is to hold onto that job beyond the next season. As much as posters in here hate the thought of it. Next year in training camp and preseason he will have a tough time keeping Pryor off the field.
I know most think Pryor is years away from starting, I’m here to tell ya’ it aint the case at all if he doesn’t get the “here a pick, there a pick, everywhere a pick pick” solved.
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See i knew you would never leave Mistic , it’s too predictable now.
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What does my comment have to do with Mistic1??
Mistic 1 can speak for himself, this what I believe…..if you can’t handle it don’t read it.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
DA?
More like D.O.A
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LOL!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Gdog Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Palmer has indeed made it hard to argue in his favor no matter what Raider fans want to believe. Nationally speaking he is looked upon as a highrisk passer. Only he can change that viewpoint. Perception often can become reality if you don’t change. He has too many t/o’s to be considered anywhere near elite.
I know most chaffe at the slightest notion of any criticism towards him. But the bottom line is he is the QB people will look at him first. Lots of yards a few TD’s is not enough to offset his penchant for costly t/o’s. He has to stop that if he is to hold onto that job beyond the next season. As much as posters in here hate the thought of it. Next year in training camp and preseason he will have a tough time keeping Pryor off the field.
I know most think Pryor is years away from starting, I’m here to tell ya’ it aint the case at all if he doesn’t get the “here a pick, there a pick, everywhere a pick pick” solved.
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Oh lookie… a new ID. Same Madden-playing IQ. Pryor really keeps racking up the wins for you on Madden does he?
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Trolling in effect thats all there is … Gruden , Al is the Raiders, Mistic, Priest
November 11th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
But you do?
This QB thing has really got you guys with the shakes………..relax son it’s called progress.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
LOL it’s not hard to tell who are the trolls judging by their take on the game , nobody blames the QB after D allows 55 points
November 11th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
McFadden 20 You need to get off this blog get a member of teh opposite sex (hopefully) and have some fun man. You’re losing it.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
“As much as posters in here hate the thought of it. Next year in training camp and preseason he will have a tough time keeping Pryor off the field.”
You are high on Crack!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Who blamed the QB for this game man…………..go get some fresh air. I didn’t even see the game…..seek help!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
We should be happy for the trolls cuz they help us take our minds off the game for awhile , so from every Raider nation guy, thank you priest , sullivan, gruden, Mistic, Disfunctional, Al is the raiders , and other honorable mentions
November 11th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
There was a shot of Pryor sitting next to Palmer after a bad series. Pryor is talking to Palmer and he doesn’t answer, just gets up and walks away.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
666 We’ll see next year…..I gave my opinion you don’t have to agree. No worries!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I love trolls, without the trolls i might have been thinking about the game so much, but thanks to Mistic and others, they cheered me up…
November 11th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Every time i see Mistic , i crack up thinking about Carolina Panthers , in running for # 1 pick next year
November 11th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Twocents Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
There was a shot of Pryor sitting next to Palmer after a bad series. Pryor is talking to Palmer and he doesn’t answer, just gets up and walks away.
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So what does that mean……….lol
As if you KNOW what was said………..you people are crazy!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Cam Newton out of football next year hahaahhaa
November 11th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
PriestAH, I don’t know what was said, I just thought it was an indication of Palmers frustration.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
LOL it’s not hard to tell who are the trolls judging by their take on the game , nobody blames the QB after D allows 55 points
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Let’s be fair. Special teams helped allow some of those points too.
But yeah. While the offense still needs a lot of work, it’s the least of the team’s problems right now, even with the lack of a running game. They still manage, thanks in much to CP3, to move the ball a lot more effectively than the other side stops the opposition from moving it.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
“I gave my opinion you don’t have to agree. No worries!”
Its cool this is a blog and that is whats it’s for is opinions.
IMO Palmer is here for another three years we will draft a QB in 2014
November 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
We only move the ball on a consistent basis with the no huddle.Why ? We all know why! First and foremost we are out coached! We have guys with no experience other than Knap and we have have witnessed his experience before ! None of our coaches have earned the right to be where they are .
November 11th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I just thought it was strange for you to bring that up…
Plamer has a lot of respect for Pryor but in the hheat of battle things happen.
Palmer is too good of a QB to continue with this rash of t/o’s it has to stop. I keep expectin g it to get better but it hasn’t and it’s week9 he needs to put a few games together without the picks.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Zymurge Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
LOL it’s not hard to tell who are the trolls judging by their take on the game , nobody blames the QB after D allows 55 points
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Let’s be fair. Special teams helped allow some of those points too.
But yeah. While the offense still needs a lot of work, it’s the least of the team’s problems right now, even with the lack of a running game. They still manage, thanks in much to CP3, to move the ball a lot more effectively than the other side stops the opposition from moving it.
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Exactly man, even with Knapps predictable play calling which leads to ints some times, and short comings at receivers, palmer still manage to lead us to points when the Oline is not holding , false starting and not allowing pressure on him
November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I think they are being too scared to dial up crazy plays cuz of the play of the O-line , they get too greedy with plays that are working for instance that WR screen, then they get too scared after that play doesn’t work and they never try it again
November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Translation of Allen’s explanation on Taiwan Jones not playing much: “He doesn’t know what the f*ck he is doing on the field. I don’t trust him.”
November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Well, that was ugly. As ugly as I can remember and I go way back. This team is shot, we don’t have it takes to compete at a high consistent level. The Oline has 2 starters and the D probably 1 . You can’t win in the NFL with that.
This team is going to get gutted. Expect a totally different team next yer.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Knapp does not react well , i believe he got crazy plays in his book , but he refuse not to use them too much cuz of Oline or Wr’s i don’t know , screen was working all day , got too greedy, kept dialing it up until 1 of them turned into an INt, and he never called screens again , he just need to f8kin keep dialing different plays and not be afraid to go to some plays again after they didn’t work out
November 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
defense gives up 50+
run game averages 3.0 yards
adams fumbles
palmer passes for 368/2 td’s and a 95+ rating
missdick and priest come on talking about palmer again.
this tool loves to say “palmer’s losses”. he is officially a troll. i will never again say anything serious to him. he’s worthless.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Well, that was ugly. As ugly as I can remember and I go way back. This team is shot, we don’t have it takes to compete at a high consistent level. The Oline has 2 starters and the D probably 1 . You can’t win in the NFL with that.
This team is going to get gutted. Expect a totally different team next yer.
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I like Bryant at DT, he was on all the plays stuffing Rice, Houston should be moved to DT, FIND new STarters at DE
November 11th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
priest—nobody cares about pryor. ur a broken racist record. fuk off pig.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Priest and Mistic can go f*ck off.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
defense gives up 50+
run game averages 3.0 yards
adams fumbles
palmer passes for 368/2 td’s and a 95+ rating
missdick and priest come on talking about palmer again.
this tool loves to say “palmer’s losses”. he is officially a troll. i will never again say anything serious to him. he’s worthless.
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He shot himself in the foot today, wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out to be sully lol
November 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Well, that was ugly. As ugly as I can remember and I go way back. This team is shot, we don’t have it takes to compete at a high consistent level. The Oline has 2 starters and the D probably 1 . You can’t win in the NFL with that.
This team is going to get gutted. Expect a totally different team next yer.
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I like Bryant at DT, he was on all the plays stuffing Rice, Houston should be moved to DT, FIND new STarters at DE
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Yeah, your right. Keep both Bryant and Houston. I was only counting Bryant.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
It’s a real race to the bottom now. We’ve got a horse in this race contending against KC, Browns, Jags, Jets, SDGO, Panthers, Bills, Eagles and Redskins.
With our upcoming schedule & our current track record of being able to fix problems, we are at 4-12 or 5-11. That’s not very motivating. If you are down a bit watch:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap2000000093443/Jets-postgame-press-conference?campaign=Twitter_nyj_presser
Just prove misery loves company.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Houston is a great team, how come Knapp sucks so bad when he came from a good team last year?
November 11th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I am a Palmer fan but the dude needs to learn to throw-it away sometime. On Espn (I know bspn to many) they were citing the Stat that Peyton Manning has never thrown a pick in the Fourth Quarter when he was trailing a game.
Couple of times this year we were within striking distance in the fourth, and then boom INT.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Well, that was ugly. As ugly as I can remember and I go way back. This team is shot, we don’t have it takes to compete at a high consistent level. The Oline has 2 starters and the D probably 1 . You can’t win in the NFL with that.
This team is going to get gutted. Expect a totally different team next yer.
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I like Bryant at DT, he was on all the plays stuffing Rice, Houston should be moved to DT, FIND new STarters at DE
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Yeah, your right. Keep both Bryant and Houston. I was only counting Bryant.
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Houston doesn’t provide any pass rush from DE position, but would be instant upgrade over Kelly and Seymour from DT spot with his motor
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
at least our record setting golden haired hero is killing it.
on pace for 4848 yards/27 td’s/16 int’s.
killing it. haters can suck and swallow.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
What’s up Nation!!!
Here is the best shot for this team next year:
Reggie needs to CAN Knapp. Then he needs to eat crow and somehow convince Hue to comeback to run the offense. It won’t be as HC but OC is alot better than what Hue is doing now. DA should worry about everything but the offense.
Hue would come in and put his system back in play and DMAC will be relevant again. He can use the 4 to 6 plays that Palmer likes from Knapp’s playbook and move on. Get 2 to 4 good linemen and this team will be in playoffs easily next year.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
303Raider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Houston is a great team, how come Knapp sucks so bad when he came from a good team last year?
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He was the QB coach. That’s all.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I am a Palmer fan but the dude needs to learn to throw-it away sometime. On Espn (I know bspn to many) they were citing the Stat that Peyton Manning has never thrown a pick in the Fourth Quarter when he was trailing a game.
Couple of times this year we were within striking distance in the fourth, and then boom INT.
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First post is about Palmer? hahahaha you make it too obvious ,you trying too hard my man
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
You can’t absolve Palmer he had 2 turnovers in a miserable blow out loss. He is now leading the worst team in all of sports not just football.
Wow this is a far cry from jc & his 4-2 first place raiders.
Instant upgrade has turned into instant laughing stock
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If the D held Baltimore to less than 20 points, we win. Palmer puts up points, the D gives them up.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Dennis Allen is in way over his head.
Never been a head coach before at any level.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Twocents Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
PriestAH, I don’t know what was said, I just thought it was an indication of Palmers frustration
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He said ” who is #22?” Palmer said ” I don’t know”
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
303Raider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Houston is a great team, how come Knapp sucks so bad when he came from a good team last year?
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He was the QB coach. That’s all.
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knapp left, they got better, same with the Denver team. DA left, they got better.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
The people on here that blame Palmer don’t know football. Or are just too blinded by their sad agendas.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Kirk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Dennis Allen is in way over his head.
Never been a head coach before at any level.
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Give him time, Belichick didn’t start winning until his 6 or 7th year coaching
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
303Raider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Houston is a great team, how come Knapp sucks so bad when he came from a good team last year?
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Knapp has no claim for fame related to that. He wasn’t the OC he was QB coach. He stood around & handed the ball to Schaub during practices. QB coaches are gofers & babysitters depending on the QB in question. Knapp has NO claim to success anywhere, anytime. Let’s make that point perfectly clear. Knapp is trash.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Kirk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Dennis Allen is in way over his head.
Never been a head coach before at any level
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Mr. obvious!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
What’s up Nation!!!
Here is the best shot for this team next year:
Reggie needs to CAN Knapp. Then he needs to eat crow and somehow convince Hue to comeback to run the offense. It won’t be as HC but OC is alot better than what Hue is doing now. DA should worry about everything but the offense.
Hue would come in and put his system back in play and DMAC will be relevant again. He can use the 4 to 6 plays that Palmer likes from Knapp’s playbook and move on. Get 2 to 4 good linemen and this team will be in playoffs easily next year.
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I agree…but Shreg will NEVER do it. He can’t admit a wrong.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
303Raider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Houston is a great team, how come Knapp sucks so bad when he came from a good team last year?
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He was the QB coach. That’s all.
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knapp left, they got better, same with the Denver team. DA left, they got better.
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Denvers D got better?
November 11th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
palmer is magnificent.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
bring back kwame harris instead if willie smith….
November 11th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Mc20, I think you’ve finally shed your knapp nutt hugger status, now let go of DAs’ nutt sack and you’ll be all right. Half way there buddy.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
according to mctroll20 we only have to wait 6 or 7 years to win…lol
November 11th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
I’m over the Knapp experience too, consistently trying to run Mcfadden for 1 and 2 yards and sticking with his Buddy Briesel at RG and never giving Bergstrom chance at any position
November 11th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Sullivan is back to usual tricks haahahha
November 11th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I am a Palmer fan but the dude needs to learn to throw-it away sometime. On Espn (I know bspn to many) they were citing the Stat that Peyton Manning has never thrown a pick in the Fourth Quarter when he was trailing a game.
Couple of times this year we were within striking distance in the fourth, and then boom INT.
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First post is about Palmer? hahahaha you make it too obvious ,you trying too hard my man
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Relax I was following the whole debate before I posted. Like I said I’m a Palmer fan. In fact the dude led us back in the bucs game and Atlanta game but wish he would cut down on the fourth quarter INTs and throw it away.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
morilla Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
303Raider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Houston is a great team, how come Knapp sucks so bad when he came from a good team last year?
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He was the QB coach. That’s all.
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knapp left, they got better, same with the Denver team. DA left, they got better.
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Denvers D got better?
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They are 13th in the league in giving up points…yes they have Manning now, but keep in mind, they ran the ball all last year to protect Tebow but they were 24th in that same category last year.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Lol of course palmers 2 turnovers had nothing to do with this loss right?
His 3 last week didn’t either right.
His pick 6 in atl the 5 in green bay and so on, none can be correlated with his ghastly 7-12 record right?
Wow
November 11th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
These guys were never a head coach at any level when they got their first head coaching job:
Bill Bellichick
Art Shell
Al Davis
Hue Jackson
November 11th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
I honestly doubt Knapp will be back. There are more pressing concerns though.
We have a RB who everyone touted as the best in the NFL. I’ve got news for you, he’s not. Not even close. I believe we are watching the down curve in his career. He’s mediocre. It’s just not the ZBS.
Special teams is garbage. All around garbage.
The secondary is trash. Huff is playing good though.
Most importantly is the foundation. The most important pieces in the puzzle. Our lines on both sides need a massive overhaul.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
If knapp designed the OC around player personel instead of a backwards ZBS, we’d be in the top spot in the AFC west. But his force feeding of a scheme that fails has proven to be the demise of the team. DAs’ stubborness to support knapp has cost us the other side of the ball too.
Bring in:
Gruden
Holmgren
Cower
Art Shell
Wiz I
Hue and/or Cable
Anybody. I don’t care. We cannot do any worse. We can only get better from here.
Hell, bring back Chuckah B and his prolific D. I don’t care. Just get rid of some of the coaching staff we got now. We will not improve with the current status quo. It is evident like it was in pre season, so it is now. Only 10x worse.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
John Madden never a head coach.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Boy the level of vitriol that goes on in here when someone mentions Palmers name is very interesting. We gave up damn near 2 1st rndrs and paying him $11 mill but you damn better not critigue him. Or else YOU must be racist………..lol
Palmer is doing everything right except the picks they have to stop whether y’all like it or not. The picks have to stop. Everyone else on that team gets criticized but Palmer is the QB he will garner the most criticism fair or unfair. I think he’s an outstanding talent but I will criticize him if he throws multiple int’s every damn game we play. The rest of the team has it’s problem but he not without fault……..period
November 11th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
John Gruden never a head coach.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Lovie Smith never a head coach.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
need to pull a la lakers and fire the coach right now!
November 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Lol of course palmers 2 turnovers had nothing to do with this loss right?
His 3 last week didn’t either right.
His pick 6 in atl the 5 in green bay and so on, none can be correlated with his ghastly 7-12 record right?
Wow
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Need better D. Palmer puts up points and numbers. D gives up points. Our offense is fine. We’ve somehow managed to best last years defensive failures.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Shaughnessy should move to LDE
Move Houston inside to play with Bryant
Draft a speedy edge rusher to play RDE
Draft/ sign a NT
November 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I’ve been saying for years we need to start at O-line. If we improve the Online the Offense will be able to move the chains more, moving the chains more allows the Defense’s starters to be rested, while wearing down the opponents D.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
You need to be a head coach at another level to be a successful NFL head coach. Some of you guys are complete morons and have the football IQ of a 8 year old Russian girl.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
its not even thanksgiving and its time to focus on the nba. too bad. the core defensive players still dont work. branch is a big problem. but reggie franchised him and then restructured/signed his contract so he makes big bucks next year. we are stuck with him.wheeler is very inconsistent and streater and criner are nothing special. in an entire offseason reggie’s only positive addition was burris. considering the number of moves he made, he has alot to prove next year. 2013 no excuses about the cap or draft. its all on him.
signing knapp led to signing brisel. what a bust, and worst of all the brisel signing sent our line in turmoil.
Da is over his head but im willing to give him time, reggie needs to prove himself as well. he hasnt earned anything yet. maybe he will down the road but he struggled in 2012. yes, he has excuses for 2012 but in 2013 there are none. if Knapp is here in 2013 , all three will be gone in 2014.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
DA never a head coach. Just doesn’t have the ‘it’ factor.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Knapp’s beyond help that aint even worth discussing anymore. The defense has left the biulding and this Oline they put together looks like a mess. Other than that they’re fantastic………..I’m having a hard time rooting for this team anymore……..that’s how bad it is.
I thought I at least had a QB, maybe not.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Dennis Allen, never SHOULD be a head coach
November 11th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Why doesn’t the dumb asss understand that when you have no running game, you’re relegated to throwing way too many times, which increases the chances of a turnover? This isn’t a video game, this the NFL. Mix that in with a poor defense, o line, poor coaching, poor playcalling…
Blaming Palmer for the win loss record is fckn retarded.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Da is over his head but im willing to give him time, reggie needs to prove himself as well. he hasnt earned anything yet. maybe he will down the road but he struggled in 2012. yes, he has excuses for 2012 but in 2013 there are none. if Knapp is here in 2013 , all three will be gone in 2014.
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Ok. I’ll meet you halfway on that. Good point.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Kirk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Dennis Allen is in way over his head.
Never been a head coach before at any level.
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Give him time, Belichick didn’t start winning until his 6 or 7th year coaching
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True that. The coaching carousel has to end now. DA has to be HC for at least 3 years before I throw him under the bus. But he does seem to be completely over his head now… and his pick of Knapp stunk from the get go. I can’t drink enough Koolade to pretend otherwise.
I wish he would have picked up a green-horn college OC like he did at DC… at least then we wouldn’t know the problem isn’t fixable. I have no hope for a Knapp-led offense to lead us to a SB.
The problem with CP racking up the offensive stats despite having a crappy line and no running game, Knapp might get to keep his job another year.
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Lol exactly priestt,
I can rip romac huff branch seymour and not a peep. I can blast carlisle or brisell not a word. If you dare to point out palmer’s flop job your a troll.
Rick mirer thinks Palmer is bombing in Oakland.
2 turnovers in a 35 point blowout, in a game Palmer needed to have an error free game as I predicted a shootout. He couldn’t keep us close.
He couldn’t shoulder the load but he sure did drop a load… In his pants
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Its funny though, last year the Offensive line seemed to be pretty good…
Maybe Satele was the missing link
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Wiz should move back to LG
Release #65
Play the 26 YO rookie to evaluate him
Draft/ sign RG/ RT & C (we can move Veldheer to RT if we find a better option @ LT)
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
I thought I at least had a QB, maybe not.
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Shut up old man. You don’t sh*t about what makes a good QB.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Most importantly is the foundation. The most important pieces in the puzzle. Our lines on both sides need a massive overhaul.
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One thing that confuses me is I thought the O-Line would be decent. I also thought the DE’s would get some penetration. WTF happened? 2010 Raiders almost led the NFL in sacks, same guys.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
The whole team is filled with mostly unmotivated players that are all diseased by losing.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Mistic, I used to think you were legitimate. I know better now. You are the biggest troll on this site. You’re worse than Beeecham.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Troll is back after break , it’s funny , he went from Gruden >>> Talking about whiners, it didn’t work , then switched to Mistic >>>> Palmer hate was dismissed, Then logged into priest ID to back up Palmer hate, he got dismissed, back to Al_is the raiders to attack DA and REGGIEE after failed palmer attempts, then Dysfunction thrown in here and there to support that conclusion, it’s always 1 guy who’s supporting him side by side, lol then sprinkled in some Mistic with Palmer hate
TOO PREDICTABLE
November 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Mistic, I used to think you were legitimate. I know better now. You are the biggest troll on this site. You’re worse than Beeecham.
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Thats 1 big troll
November 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
400.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Lol exactly priestt,
I can rip romac huff branch seymour and not a peep. I can blast carlisle or brisell not a word. If you dare to point out palmer’s flop job your a troll.
Rick mirer thinks Palmer is bombing in Oakland.
2 turnovers in a 35 point blowout, in a game Palmer needed to have an error free game as I predicted a shootout. He couldn’t keep us close.
He couldn’t shoulder the load but he sure did drop a load… In his pants
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The Jizz idol has spoken
November 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Knapp’s beyond help that aint even worth discussing anymore. The defense has left the biulding and this Oline they put together looks like a mess. Other than that they’re fantastic………..I’m having a hard time rooting for this team anymore……..that’s how bad it is.
I thought I at least had a QB, maybe not.
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Do you think any of us would miss you if you switched teams?
I heard a stat that CP was averaging 2.4 seconds to throw a pass. Ya think a guy just learning the position like Pryor would do anything besides chuck interceptions and get sacked in such an environment?
If so… you are an embarrassment to all intelligent Raider fans on the planet. Nobody is this stupid.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
SUP SUP YAWL
Do like Super Dawg do after a tough loss. Pound a few cold margs, extra sweet but light on the salt, the have you posse do a pube style and weiner wax, then holla, bust a nut.
But the best part is dropping a custom man sized duece into your favorite toilet, capture it on video and listen to the posse applaud.
Works every time.
MO SCHIZZLE FOR THE BIZZLE, WHUT
November 11th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Mistic1 It’s funny as hell how upset these fools get……at the very mention of his name. You done a serious job on their heads. These fools are punch drunk!!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
it you want to be fair, Brisel step on Palmers foot on 4 th n 1 with reese wide open. thats a minimum 3 pts. Brisel also had penalties that killed drives and took points off the board especially the one in red zone. steater drops a bomb that hits his hands and hagen drops a td pass. it was a comedy of errors on both sides of the ball. i blame Knapp for Brisel so it makes me dislike him even more.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Gdog Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Kirk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Dennis Allen is in way over his head.
Never been a head coach before at any level.
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Give him time, Belichick didn’t start winning until his 6 or 7th year coaching
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True that. The coaching carousel has to end now. DA has to be HC for at least 3 years before I throw him under the bus. But he does seem to be completely over his head now… and his pick of Knapp stunk from the get go. I can’t drink enough Koolade to pretend otherwise.
I wish he would have picked up a green-horn college OC like he did at DC… at least then we wouldn’t know the problem isn’t fixable. I have no hope for a Knapp-led offense to lead us to a SB.
The problem with CP racking up the offensive stats despite having a crappy line and no running game, Knapp might get to keep his job another year.
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First off the Ownership took precious time to hire a GM , then Mckenzie took precious time to hire DA, then DA was left with nobody else, I think he wanted to go ZBS , and knapp was just the only guy left with that idea, don’t worry he will be gone next year
November 11th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
2 turnovers in a 35 point blowout, in a game Palmer needed to have an error free game as I predicted a shootout. He couldn’t keep us close.
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LMAO @ “2 turnovers in a 35 point blowout”
You People ate funny
Your QB can’t win with no RBs, OL, or defense that allowed 27 points in the 1st half.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Not even a troll. Just ignorant and repetitive and enjoys getting a rise out of all of the posters on here…except for the other dumb assses that agree, that its one mans fault.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
The whole team is filled with mostly unmotivated players that are all diseased by losing.
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and reggie replaced almost half the roster,,
November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Most importantly is the foundation. The most important pieces in the puzzle. Our lines on both sides need a massive overhaul.
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One thing that confuses me is I thought the O-Line would be decent. I also thought the DE’s would get some penetration. WTF happened? 2010 Raiders almost led the NFL in sacks, same guys.
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Wiz is playing out of position and Briesel and Smith are horrible. Most of the sacks are coming though these three positions.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Mistic1 It’s funny as hell how upset these fools get……at the very mention of his name. You done a serious job on their heads. These fools are punch drunk!!
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It’s funny there are always two different guys supporting the same idea, hahaaha, good job troll
November 11th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
3 -13. Raiders will likely lose out. This is the worst Raiders team I’ve seen, and I’ve been watching since 1968.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Ill say it again criticizing anyone is fair game except Palmer blame branch, dmac ford d.a big Mack al Davis brad roll the black hole the coliseum the peanut vendors but don’t say palmer’s 30 turnovers in 19 games is an issue or your a troll.
Lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Hey Mistic hows 2013 QB class looking like ?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Theres another half that needs to be exterminated.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
It’s official. Mc20 is a troll. If you are not a knapp/DA nutt hugger, you are, by verdict of Mc20, a troll. But it’s all good. Trolls obviously are part of this blog on a daily basis.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Most importantly is the foundation. The most important pieces in the puzzle. Our lines on both sides need a massive overhaul.
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One thing that confuses me is I thought the O-Line would be decent. I also thought the DE’s would get some penetration. WTF happened? 2010 Raiders almost led the NFL in sacks, same guys.
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It’s odd to say this but losing Satele was huge. Much bigger than I ever thought it would be. At least we would have a decent C and solid left half.
Kelly and Seymour are just getting old. They burn out after the half. 77 is not showing dominance and we have no speed on the edges.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Are
Still LOL @ “2 turnovers in a 35 point blowout”
Do you people read your posts?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Ravens could have scored 100 points by recovering onside kicks after TDs and scoring again and again, Mistic would have came here and blamed Palmer for going 0/0 0 yards 0 TD 0 INT
November 11th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Of course Palmers TO’s aren’t helping but neither is everything else that is going on. smh
TEAM GAME.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
so tired of losing. year after f#ckin year.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
kelly and seymour are not worth their contracts but the raiders havent had a de who demands a double team since derrick burgess..think about how crazy that is..
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
And WHAT the heck does Reggie Mac have against big-sized veteran possession receivers?
We got a bunch of young pups at WR that haven’t learned how to catch a third down or Touchdown pass to save their lives!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
It’s official. Mc20 is a troll. If you are not a knapp/DA nutt hugger, you are, by verdict of Mc20, a troll. But it’s all good. Trolls obviously are part of this blog on a daily basis.
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Knapp will be gone , DA IS fine , he will be here 2 more years , he will hire a better OC next year, D will get some nice players after much needed cap relief
November 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mc20, Palmer is not to blame for these losses. I belive knapp and his lack of game planning and DAs’ lack of attention to defense, and those who support knapp, are responsible for this loss. Without Palmer, the score is like 75-3. But when your done clinging to the knapp sack, you’ll see what most of us are talking about. But it’s all good.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
You build by drafting, inside out. If there is a spectacular QB that cant be passed on, take him but til then
the game is won in the trenches
November 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
nycraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
kelly and seymour are not worth their contracts but the raiders havent had a de who demands a double team since derrick burgess..think about how crazy that is..
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WIMBLEY demanded double team once in awhile but he wasn’t worth all that money for 5 sacks a year
November 11th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
418.Gdog Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Most importantly is the foundation. The most important pieces in the puzzle. Our lines on both sides need a massive overhaul.
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One thing that confuses me is I thought the O-Line would be decent. I also thought the DE’s would get some penetration. WTF happened? 2010 Raiders almost led the NFL in sacks, same guys.
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Wiz is playing out of position and Briesel and Smith are horrible. Most of the sacks are coming though these three positions.
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G dog
I apoligize, what I meant to say in 2010 the Raiders D-Line almost lead the NFL in sacks, Houston was a rookie, #77 a rookie, Seymour and Kelly. this year they can’t do sht. 2010 over 40 sacks. (Wimbley was in on those also)
November 11th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
It’s official. Mc20 is a troll. If you are not a knapp/DA nutt hugger, you are, by verdict of Mc20, a troll. But it’s all good. Trolls obviously are part of this blog on a daily basis.
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Knapp will be gone , DA IS fine , he will be here 2 more years , he will hire a better OC next year, D will get some nice players after much needed cap relief
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I’d be OK with DA for another year. But not the ZBS.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
nycraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
kelly and seymour are not worth their contracts but the raiders havent had a de who demands a double team since derrick burgess..think about how crazy that is..
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WIMBLEY demanded double team once in awhile but he wasn’t worth all that money for 5 sacks a year
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wimbley isnt a playmaker imo..
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
E Reptile Dysfunction Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Mc20, Palmer is not to blame for these losses. I belive knapp and his lack of game planning and DAs’ lack of attention to defense, and those who support knapp, are responsible for this loss. Without Palmer, the score is like 75-3. But when your done clinging to the knapp sack, you’ll see what most of us are talking about. But it’s all good.
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You have nothing else to say nuthuggers nut sack, who’s freaking protecting Knapp in here, i gave him till game 6 to prove himself , he has s8cked, refuse to replace his Butt buddy from houston Briesel with Berg , refuse to try different combo’s get too greedy with little bit success and keeps calling the same plays and becomes predictable, the lone int came on the screen pass attempt, and i have been telling you guys ,this is not college football , if oc is calling same stupid plays D’s will eventually figure it out and thats why they got the int
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Mistic, get your popcorn ready. Campbell is playing in the second half.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Fck it. Fck it all. We’ll see next Sunday.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Mistic just got a huge boner.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Morilla #425………YESIR.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
nycraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
nycraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
kelly and seymour are not worth their contracts but the raiders havent had a de who demands a double team since derrick burgess..think about how crazy that is..
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WIMBLEY demanded double team once in awhile but he wasn’t worth all that money for 5 sacks a year
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wimbley isnt a playmaker imo..
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He’s def not a playmaker but was the best pash rusher on this team , and def wasn’t worth his salary for 6 sacks a season
November 11th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Morilla #425………YESIR.
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HAHAHAHAH
November 11th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Mistic just got a huge boner.
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HAHHAHHA
November 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Lets see how JC does,..playing entire second half.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I warned trading for Palmer would bring ruin. Well we are now 7-12 behind pmers wayward leadership.
I said Palmer would fail to take us to the playoffs last year. Sb 666, Mac sadden 20 ab pain lofty lefty and a host of others said I was a troll. Well we know how that worked out season lost on a pick from carcass Palmer.
I screamed coming into the season this was a rebuild year. Macbutthurt 20 & his cronies denied it , only recent have some changed thier tune.
Palmers 30 turnovers lin 19 games is putrid & can’t be seperated from his lousy 7-12 record.
We didn’t just step backward from jc’s first place raiders we have completley fallen apart.
Sudden we look an awful lot like palmers final 4-12 bungles team … Just like I told you we would
November 11th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
I was baffled by the poor timing on the blitzes by the safeties. They don’t know how to sell them correctly, at all. You give Flacco way too much time by starting your blitz, 8-9yds off of the line of scrimmage when he yells hike.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Bring back Marshall….little ol guy was the best DC the Raiders have had.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
449,
Shut up you know nothing pos.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
LMAO!…DA is fine…The guy is setting records this year for gawd-awful defense and the most impressive thing on his resume is being the DB coach for the Saints Super Bowl team.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
And WHAT the heck does Reggie Mac have against big-sized veteran possession receivers?
We got a bunch of young pups at WR that haven’t learned how to catch a third down or Touchdown pass to save their lives!
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The coaches are at the stooge level at this point. We have Larry, Moe and Curly coaching this team. No answers no understanding of the talent their supposed to be using.
They run TJ in practice and a PS player during the game. At some point when down 17 points or more don’t you wnat to see what the kid had?? huh!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
There is the Jason we know. Throws a 4 yard pass on 3rd and 10.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Lets see how JC does,..playing entire second half.
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Better than whiners qb
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
If JC never gets hurt, no panick deal for Palmer,..no Hue firing,..no DA,..no Knapp,…JC getting hurt changed the fate of the Raiders for several years.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders allowing 31.6 ppg. Only 4 teams since merger finished season allowing more
November 11th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Exactly Miami
My friend brought that up and soon after the CBS commentators.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Love the trolls, LMFAO at the Gruden guy , lives in Tahoe , been on Blog all day , i would never have time for blogs if i lived in that kinda place
November 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
This is all time worst team putting pressure on QB’s , even the Minnesota team with fat William brothers were better than these guys putting pressure on QB’s
November 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
The regression of Denarius Moore. Dude was catching everything last year; running, leaping, diving for tds.
I guess maybe its a sophomore slump or something?
Streater and Criner don’t really impress me and ford is out on IR. So that leaves us with Hagan
November 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I warned trading for Palmer would bring ruin. Well we are now 7-12 behind pmers wayward leadership.
I said Palmer would fail to take us to the playoffs last year. Sb 666, Mac sadden 20 ab pain lofty lefty and a host of others said I was a troll. Well we know how that worked out season lost on a pick from carcass Palmer.
I screamed coming into the season this was a rebuild year. Macbutthurt 20 & his cronies denied it , only recent have some changed thier tune.
Palmers 30 turnovers lin 19 games is putrid & can’t be seperated from his lousy 7-12 record.
We didn’t just step backward from jc’s first place raiders we have completley fallen apart.
Sudden we look an awful lot like palmers final 4-12 bungles team … Just like I told you we would
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As bad as it hurts some in here this is hard to deny. He should be getting better each week and he’s not. No one is saying the game we loss today is his fault just saying he can’t keep throwing picks each and every week……..he can’t!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
449,
Shut up you know nothing pos.
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Que te pasa mariconsote?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
456.JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
If JC never gets hurt, no panick deal for Palmer,..no Hue firing,..no DA,..no Knapp,…JC getting hurt changed the fate of the Raiders for several years.
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You actually bring up a point that makes sense. Good job.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Nope, not been a a blog all day,…its easy enough to from an Iphone,…yes Im in Tahoe so what?…dude why you so angry?…get over the Raider loss man. lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Love the trolls, LMFAO at the Gruden guy , lives in Tahoe , been on Blog all day , i would never have time for blogs if i lived in that kinda place
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That speaks volumns son…
November 11th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
FS? SS- Branch
Bartell Huff
Wheeler- MLB?- Burris
Draft -DE?- Bryant- Houston- DE – FA
November 11th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Top prospects 2013 draft:
DE
*Bjoern Werner DE Florida State 6-4 256
*Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M 6-4 250
*Sam Montgomery DE LSU 6-5 260
Alex Okafor DE Texas 6-5 265
Dion Jordan DE Oregon 6-6 243
DT
*Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State 6-3 320
Star Lotulelei DT Utah 6-3 320
John Jenkins DT Georgia 6-3 358
Jesse Williams DT Alabama 6-3 320
*Sheldon RichardsonDT Missouri 6-3 295
MLB
Manti Te’o MLB Notre Dame 6-2 255
OLB
*Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia 6-2 242
*Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU 6-4 240
*C.J. Mosley OLB Alabama 6-2 232
Chase Thomas OLB Stanford 6-4 248
CB
*Dee Milliner CB Alabama 6-1 198
Johnthan Banks CB Miss. St. 6-1 185
*Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St. 6-1 217
*David Amerson CB N. Carolina St. 6-2 194
FS
*Eric Reid FS LSU 6-2 212
SS
*Matt Elam SS Florida 5-10 202
OT
*Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M 6-6 310
*Taylor Lewan OT Michigan 6-7 310
*Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M 6-5 305
Eric Fisher OT Cent. Mich. 6-7 305
OG
Chance Warmack OG Alabama 6-2 322
Barrett Jones OG Alabama 6-4 305
Jonathan Cooper OG North Carolina 6-3 310
C
Khaled Holmes C So. Cal. 6-3 305
RB
*Giovani Bernard RB North Carolina 5-10 205
TE
*Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame 6-5 252
WR
*Keenan Allen WR California 6-3 210
*Justin Hunter WR Tennessee 6-4 200
*DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson 6-1 200
*Robert Woods WR So. Cal. 6-1 190
QB
Geno Smith QB West Virginia 6-3 220
Matt Barkley QB So. Cal. 6-2 230
Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas 6-2 218
So, where do we begin? We need a little bit of each category. Hard to say which is MOST IMPORTANT.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
457.Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders allowing 31.6 ppg. Only 4 teams since merger finished season allowing more
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Thanks Purv,
twist the dagger in my back!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Its true Lifer,…Campbell had it goin on,..already lost McFragile, but he was on,…then pop goes the shoulder and the rest is history.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Nope, not been a a blog all day,…its easy enough to from an Iphone,…yes Im in Tahoe so what?…dude why you so angry?…get over the Raider loss man. lol
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And your a whiners fan ,, Lives in tahoe fan of whiners, spend all day in Raiders blog lmao SULLY
November 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Jason Campbell doesnt even have playoff stats. lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
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November 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders allowing 31.6 ppg. Only 4 teams since merger finished season allowing more
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Yeah. Palmer’s fault. LMFAO.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
LOL SULLY , he thinks we’re mad ? hahaha I’m enjoying figuring this , it’s quite fun, you guys made me get over the game long time ago , now lets get back to off-season
Who you guys take at DE?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Gosh McD,..you really dont know who I am?…come to my tailgate this sunday,..A lot,..Brien will be there,..had you goin today though didnt I?…lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I guess the “Real Defense” Mike Huff was talking about hasn’t shown up yet. I’ll be glad when it does because this one aint “REAL”.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Dj Johnny, I’m pretty sure OakfoShow is using your handle.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Gosh McD,..you really dont know who I am?…come to my tailgate this sunday,..A lot,..Brien will be there,..had you goin today though didnt I?…lol
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I don’t care your a troll and good one , we can use your trolling effort next sunday too if we lose , you sure help get the mind off the game,
November 11th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I warned trading for Palmer would bring ruin. Well we are now 7-12 behind pmers wayward leadership.
I said Palmer would fail to take us to the playoffs last year. Sb 666, Mac sadden 20 ab pain lofty lefty and a host of others said I was a troll. Well we know how that worked out season lost on a pick from carcass Palmer.
I screamed coming into the season this was a rebuild year. Macbutthurt 20 & his cronies denied it , only recent have some changed thier tune.
Palmers 30 turnovers lin 19 games is putrid & can’t be seperated from his lousy 7-12 record.
We didn’t just step backward from jc’s first place raiders we have completley fallen apart.
Sudden we look an awful lot like palmers final 4-12 bungles team … Just like I told you we would
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As bad as it hurts some in here this is hard to deny. He should be getting better each week and he’s not. No one is saying the game we loss today is his fault just saying he can’t keep throwing picks each and every week……..he can’t!
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I used to respect your football knowledge then you say THIS?
He threw ONE INT. in a 30 pt. loss.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
C’mon Jason Campbell!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Speaking of all day McFadden,..I take off for a couple hours,..youre still here…so whats that say about you?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
SUP SUP GOOBS
At least the discharger lost, they were busy lickin some nasty hole. Got a foul taste in their mugs and some bad skank breath. lol.
WHUT WHUT
November 11th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
So Mistic who are the top qb’s in 13 class?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RAIDERNATION: Truly, Truly its SMELLS BAD, worst than a Fa#t.
When you give 100 Pts and get –KICK IN AN#L Gland like that DUDE you need some PREPARATION -H
November 11th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Lol,..mcfadden, the troll hunter,…well, you sure put the hours into your work little dude.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Just come party with us this Sunday,..A lot,…brien will be there,…maybe Hawaiin dude,..The C,…all are welcome,..lots of wings and booze and pills and pot and classic metal.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Speaking of all day McFadden,..I take off for a couple hours,..youre still here…so whats that say about you?
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I’m obsessed with Raiders talk , but i sure won’t be on any blog if i was in Tahoe….
So lemme get this right, you Live IN Tahoe , Your a fan of the whiners, why do you spend so much time on Raiders blog?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
If we’re going Defense on draft day I say DT, we have not have a solid consistent DT since the days of Sam Adams and Parella
November 11th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
“LMAO @ “2 turnovers in a 35 point blowout”
You People ate funny
Your QB can’t win with no RBs, OL, or defense that allowed 27 points in the 1st half.”
So true but yet there are those with such a low football IQ they cannot comprehend it. Dan Fouts, Phil Simms, Kurt Warrner, Jerry Mac and Steve Corkran are all WRONG about Palmer and Mystic1 is right….Kind of confused as to why Mystic1 does not have his own show with all this pseudo knowledge he is laying on us!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Lol,..mcfadden, the troll hunter,…well, you sure put the hours into your work little dude.
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Last reply to you troll, thanks for getting my mind off the game..
November 11th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Iron Maiden! Eddie!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raiders for life Says:
#Raiders allowing 31.6 ppg. Only 4 teams since merger finished season allowing more
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Thanks Purv,
twist the dagger in my back!!!!=======================
Don’t shoot the messenger and don’t blame me. Palmer’s Fault.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mcfadden,…guess what, people up here in south shore visit blogs too,…and sorry that the niner talk went over your head,..try and keep up next time dude. lol.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
DT before DE is kinda foolish, We need Pass rushers first then Run defenders
November 11th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
mcfadden, thats about the 25th time youve said thanks to people for getting that game off your mind,..um,..whens the game finally going to get off your mind dude???…lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Sb666, do you now agree this is a rebuild?
Is 30 turnovers in 19 games acceptable?
Is 7-12 an instant upgrade or worth a 1st a2nd & 11mil plus 13 mil next year?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Is Michael Bush injured?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says: Kind of confused as to why Mystic1 does not have his own show===============
Seems he thinks he does. Aren’t we lucky?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Mcfadden,…guess what, people up here in south shore visit blogs too,…and sorry that the niner talk went over your head,..try and keep up next time dude. lol.
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Sorry i don’t keep up with trolls , and you guys are so predictable its not even funny, but again I’ll end this on a good note, thanks for getting my mind off the game
November 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
According to mcfadden only people on boring streets in the bay area should spend countless hours in a blog,..well junior, we dont hang in casinos here, we live here, we leave that for bay area fools like you to blow all your dough up here. Nice swing and a miss by you again.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
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Theese are the only acceptable options in 2013
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
When I heard Jason Campbell was coming in to play the second half I quickly went to Oddsmaker and laid down $100 on the second half took the Texans at +2.5
I plan on making money off that retarded back up QB!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
mcfadden, thats about the 25th time youve said thanks to people for getting that game off your mind,..um,..whens the game finally going to get off your mind dude???…lol
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I am done after replying to you, but being the loser troll you are you keep on talking about me , you have OCD my friend get some help, seriously don’t reply back
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
These guys that are so entrenched to support Reggie and DA I feel are more supportive of them than they are for Raiders Org. If these guy don’t pull they weight they will be gone within a blink of an eye. Both Reggie and DA have done nothing to better the team on any of the 3 phases it take to be competitive. If I seen some improvement at any area of this org. other than the new computers and software I would give them my support. I
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Sb666, do you now agree this is a rebuild?
Is 30 turnovers in 19 games acceptable?
Is 7-12 an instant upgrade or worth a 1st a2nd & 11mil plus 13 mil next year?
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I agree with you on these points. But, where you are wrong is that you think Palmer is the problem. He isn’t’. And JC wasn’t the answer.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
LOL Llama man. That’s funny.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Mcfadden, the game will be with you forever, no matter how you try to forget it,..nobody here believes you. sorry.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
DJ The point is he has to stop throwing them every week. How many points we post by has nothing to do with his throwing picks. Just separate him out of the structure of tthe game itself for a second. Palmer is throwing picks every week forget this week period…………what will you say when he does again next week and the week after and the week after….it has to stop that’s the point.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
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Theese are the only acceptable options in 2013
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So which of them would Carolina pick with the #1 next year?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Lol I didn’t expect answers from you, you have no answer for your blind hero worship
Palmer has failed
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Oh,..I see, youre done with me now?…now that you have fallen on your face little dude?…I dont blame you,..try harder next time,..and please try and forget that game.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Mcfadden, the game will be with you forever, no matter how you try to forget it,..nobody here believes you. sorry.
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I’m not worried about the game , i know where the team’s Weaknesses lie and want to talk with the real Raiders fans about the game , now if you excuse and let me for a second trolll? why do you keep talking to me?? thought there were a lot of things to do in Tahoe
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Was watching 60 minutes. Why is Soup playing? Cutler hurt?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
“Sb666, do you now agree this is a rebuild?”
Yeah I know its a rebuilding year In fact just this morning I was in here arguing with some brainless little retarded guy about that very subject.
The poor little fella couldn’t grasp that he said next year was the rebuilding year I just laughed as he seemed like the homeless guy outside the Taco Bell you feel sorry fr him so you give hi a dollar.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Lol I didn’t expect answers from you, you have no answer for your blind hero worship
Palmer has failed
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That is hilarious coming from you. The guy who worships JC and every other black QB.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Neither is Palmer the answer then and tgaht is what bothers the hell out of me because I thought he would be. We paid a ton to get him and at this point what did we get?
He has to stop throwing picks every week…..period
win or lose stop throwing them.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Lol I didn’t expect answers from you, you have no answer for your blind hero worship
Palmer has failed
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But who do you think they will pick next year with the #1 pick
BTW J RUSSELL >>> C NEWTON
November 11th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Cutler got a concussion at the end of the first half.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I should inform all these IT guys up here in south shore theres things called blogs,..that a person could express opinions on,..then they wouldnt have to camp out at Harveys all night long. lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
503.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
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Hold up, who the Hawaii’n dude I’m hearing of?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue paid a ton to get Palmer. Good move Hue, you’re an awesome coach, I hope you come back so we can shatter the penalty record and come up short in the playoffs again.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Lol Mac loser is reduced to talking about Carolina. Can’t bear to acknowledge the failure of Palmer.
Is 30 turnover in 19 games acceptable? Is it worth a 1st a 2nd & 11 mil plus 13 mil next year?
Is 7-12 an instant upgrade?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Carolina is a mess , they should have stuck with their other 1st round draft pick (forgot his name) now they will have # 1 pick again
Russel .>> NEwton
November 11th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
2romes Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
These guys that are so entrenched to support Reggie and DA I feel are more supportive of them than they are for Raiders Org. If these guy don’t pull they weight they will be gone within a blink of an eye. Both Reggie and DA have done nothing to better the team on any of the 3 phases it take to be competitive. If I seen some improvement at any area of this org. other than the new computers and software I would give them my support. I
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Agreed!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Lol Mac loser is reduced to talking about Carolina. Can’t bear to acknowledge the failure of Palmer.
Is 30 turnover in 19 games acceptable? Is it worth a 1st a 2nd & 11 mil plus 13 mil next year?
Is 7-12 an instant upgrade?
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Hey when you become objective in your life, maybe people will pay attention to ur BS, but till then
can i hear excuses for VICK, NEWTONs play?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Our defense allowed 97 points in 2 games, and some of you people want to talk about our offense?
Can’t win when you allow around 50 points/ game.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Btw, I’m not impressed with Reggie’s biggest moves this offseason. The 26 YO rookie OL who was inactive for half the season and his big FA signing that has meltdowns on gamedays.
Not impressed Reggie.
Burris and Wheeler are solid, but they are nothing to brag about.
Fix this crap!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Ok Priest I agree he has to not throw picks, but after today it’s obvious he is one of the least of our issues right now..
His total in’ts for the year don’t even rank him anywhere near the worst in the league in that category.
It’s the defense that is by far our biggest concern right now.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Look the whole organization looks like crap that includes Palmer, DA and Reginald.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Can anyone explain that 105 yd return today when the runner was never touched nor was his blocker touched. Steve Hoffman, ST Coord., should have to stand up in front of the media and explain this EPIC FAIL. Right after that he should be fired & handed his check as he’s escorted out the door – FOREVER.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Mistic just get over it man , your a exposed troll , we know if the Raiders D allowed 100 points , and Palmer never even played the game , you will come in here blaming him , it’s quite hilarious the level you have stooped to
November 11th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Well Mistic1 Cam Newtons record is 8-17 should they dump him?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Oh man,..look at little mcfadden,..from troll hunting to exposing black quarterbacks,…youre having a terrible day little guy,..might want to call it a night.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
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Theese are the only acceptable options in 2013
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Maybe for YOU they are but some of us want to actually win some games.
You’re not a Raider fan so what do you care?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
If the offense was on the field scoring points the defense wouldn’t be on the field giving them up.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
D-FENCE NEEDS EXTRA STRENGH -PREPARATION -H WITH COOLING MENTHOL !
UP OUR NOSE WITH RUBBER HOSE!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
The Flyin Hawaiin Mariota, I think thats the QB’s name. Kickin azz over everyone of mistic’s picks
November 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Our defense allowed 97 points in 2 games, and some of you people want to talk about our offense?
Can’t win when you allow around 50 points/ game.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Btw, I’m not impressed with Reggie’s biggest moves this offseason. The 26 YO rookie OL who was inactive for half the season and his big FA signing that has meltdowns on gamedays.
Not impressed Reggie.
Burris and Wheeler are solid, but they are nothing to brag about.
Fix this crap!
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KNapp got to go , single handedly killed the Raiders drives by being predictable , i mean god you’re not playing against kindergarten players , call something else for once instead of screens, 1 of them finally backfired and he never tried again
November 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Defense sets a record for points given up
who are the tards talking about?
Palmer.
Seriously? LOL
November 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
With regards to Palmer’s INT’s: How many were his fault vs. the fault of the receiver – either not being where they were supposed to be or not going up/fighting for the ball? It would be interesting to see that type of breakdown.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Knapp and Hoffman should be fired after the season. Actually, they should be fired now.
Some of you act like Bergstrom was a 1st round draft pick. He was essentially the first pick of the 4th round.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
“Sb666, do you now agree this is a rebuild?”
Yeah I know its a rebuilding year In fact just this morning I was in here arguing with some brainless little retarded guy about that very subject.
The poor little fella couldn’t grasp that he said next year was the rebuilding year I just laughed as he seemed like the homeless guy outside the Taco Bell you feel sorry for him so you give him a dollar.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
503.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
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I’d take Klein, Tyler Bray or Barkley over those losers anyday.
Hopefully the Raiders aren’ty dumb enough to throw away a draft pick on any of those dopes you mentioned.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Oh man,..look at little mcfadden,..from troll hunting to exposing black quarterbacks,…youre having a terrible day little guy,..might want to call it a night.
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kinda crazy how i am on your mind more than anything else, thought there would be a lot of things on a person’s mind in Tahoe , didn’t know a guy on the blog could have more effect on some one living in such a nice place
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
FS
*Eric Reid FS LSU 6-2 212
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JB,
I am starting the crusade now for Reid.
We give up more 50 yard passing plays than Palmer throws INT’s.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
This is all on Reggie MUMBLES McKinzee…
He hired the rookie HC with a background in defense, which now has done NOTHING to improve the D. of course the Rookie HC had to be a proponent of the ZBS.
Reggie only interviewed 1 candidate for the job before settling on Allen
That is about the poorest hiring technique EVER!
Which is ironic, cause Mark Favis hired Reggie without interviewing ANYONE ELSE!
Is has been an absolute TRAINWRECK, AND IT’s all on Mark and Reggie..
Just SELL Baby…
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Another swing and a miss mcfadden,..thats two,..make your last one count.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Some one forgot to take their meds today lol
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Our worst concern is the entire team is not functioning well. The defense is demoralized IMO. I think the players are starting to check out that is my most concern. This defense played well 4 weeks straight then BOOM!
Right after DMC went down the defense went down. It’s a snowball effect. I thin it starts with the disbelief in the HC and OC to be honest. I haven’t ven seen the game today I don’t know what happened and don’t want to know.
I’m pissed at the entire team and managemnt…………period
November 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue paid a ton to get Palmer. Good move Hue, you’re an awesome coach, I hope you come back so we can shatter the penalty record and come up short in the playoffs again.
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Lol. Yeah moron, we’re gonna do WAY better this year, aren’t we?
What a dope. Let’s whine about being 1 game away from the playoffs, when we won’t even SNIFF that this year.
Brilliant.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Another swing and a miss mcfadden,..thats two,..make your last one count.
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heard that before from many different IDs , exactly the same words , too predictable
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Funny you should bring up Jamarcus russel.
Chew on this impostor fans
Russel had a record of 7-18 with 38 turnovers.
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers
You were saying?
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
What a bummer,…mcfadden,..we thought had promise,..but just another fraud,..nothing there,..failed troll hunter, failed at exposing black qb`s,..spent his day in a blog crying about the raiders,…hey little dude I hope tomorrow is better for you,…good luck.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Campbell and Bush killing it!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
MBush now playing & still can’t pass block. Soup better beware with Bush in pass protection. He did however just run a nice 20 yd’er.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Reggie could be fired for ‘Neglegence’ on the hiring of DA, if he hadn’t been hired in the same ’short sighted’ 1 interview way…
I only wish the minority partners could wrestle away the power from Mark and make him nothing but a check collector in this business, just like his dad did to the McGah’s and other smaller investors back in the day…
Dude is M o r o n with a 25cent haircut and NOIDEA what he is doing in control of this team…
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
(attaboy reggie)
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Funny you should bring up Jamarcus russel.
Chew on this impostor fans
Russel had a record of 7-18 with 38 turnovers.
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers
You were saying?
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Jamarcus Russel 3 seasons >>>>>> Newton 2 seasons
sad story really , Car messed up there
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
JB
Yeah, I don’t know much about this Hoffman guy. But it seems like since day 1 his ST unit has been a complete flop. Pretty disappointing considering he didn’t have a back up for Condo. ST’s has been ugly to say the least.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Somehow, all the focus has gone on Knapp as far as the hiring.
We are about the same offense as last year. 1 less point a game, way more passing yards and less penalties, obviously way less rushing yards.
But defensively, we have gotten and continue to get worse weekly.
Tarver should be the first pig led to slaughter. He can take Tyvon Branch and Briesel with him.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Funny you should bring up Jamarcus russel.
Chew on this impostor fans
Russel had a record of 7-18 with 38 turnovers.
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers
You were saying?
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Doesn’t alter the fact that JaLoser was a lazy douchebag.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
What a bummer,…mcfadden,..we thought had promise,..but just another fraud,..nothing there,..failed troll hunter, failed at exposing black qb`s,..spent his day in a blog crying about the raiders,…hey little dude I hope tomorrow is better for you,…good luck.
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I’m not replying to you because i already know who you’re , so keep trolling, keep my d*ck out of your mouth
November 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue paid a ton to get Palmer. Good move Hue, you’re an awesome coach, I hope you come back so we can shatter the penalty record and come up short in the playoffs again.
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Lol. Yeah moron, we’re gonna do WAY better this year, aren’t we?
What a dope. Let’s whine about being 1 game away from the playoffs, when we won’t even SNIFF that this year.
Brilliant.
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Listen here, dmb fck. I’m playing into those who want Hue back but also knock Palmer for being our QB. He made the trade didn’t he? Never had a problem with Hue’s offense…Thanks.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
557.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Funny you should bring up Jamarcus russel.
Chew on this impostor fans
Russel had a record of 7-18 with 38 turnovers.
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers
You were saying?
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The Jizz Idol speaks.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
JB
Yeah, I don’t know much about this Hoffman guy. But it seems like since day 1 his ST unit has been a complete flop. Pretty disappointing considering he didn’t have a back up for Condo. ST’s has been ugly to say the least.
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UGLY is far too kind. This ST unit is by far the worst in Raider history.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
This is all on Reggie MUMBLES McKinzee…
He hired the rookie HC with a background in defense, which now has done NOTHING to improve the D. of course the Rookie HC had to be a proponent of the ZBS.
Reggie only interviewed 1 candidate for the job before settling on Allen
That is about the poorest hiring technique EVER!
Which is ironic, cause Mark Favis hired Reggie without interviewing ANYONE ELSE!
Is has been an absolute TRAINWRECK, AND IT’s all on Mark and Reggie..
Just SELL Baby…
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actually we’re on pace to give the most points on Defense since 1971 according to this…
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Nope, sorry mcfadden, wrong again…feel free to keep trying. But try and be right at least once today ok?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
This entire staff needs to go, but I can tolerate DA for 1 more year.
Tarver and Knapp and the test of the coaches need to go.
Eff stability if it means having Lnapp and a DC who is worse than Chuck B.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
How long before everyone realizes that Reggie is the Raiders version of Matt Millen the GM?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
They killed russel while he was here & continue now that he is long gone but lets compare.
Russel 7-18 38 turnovers 3 year stay in Oakland
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers 1 1/2 seasons
Wow palmers is jamayo bad
But he isn’t the problem ?!?!?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
You guys should be happy we have Palmer…
We could be Car and st8ck with Newton and on way to # 1 pick again
November 11th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Wait….am i late, SOOOOUP. Why did we git rid of him? Oh ya
November 11th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Nope, sorry mcfadden, wrong again…feel free to keep trying. But try and be right at least once today ok?
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Have any football takes?, prove you know anything besides trolling
November 11th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
“Jamarcus Russel 3 seasons >>>>>> Newton 2 seasons
sad story really , Car messed up there”
Yeah Carolina got duped the same way Philadelphia did Vick is the turn over machine if there ever was one and Scam Newton better save his money because he is done. Once they take the training wheels off he falls flat on his face..
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Soup Campbell still staring down receivers..
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
They killed russel while he was here & continue now that he is long gone but lets compare.
Russel 7-18 38 turnovers 3 year stay in Oakland
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers 1 1/2 seasons
Wow palmers is jamayo bad
But he isn’t the problem ?!?!?
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Never leaves any chance to make excuses for black QB’s
This is why nobody cares what you have to say about Palmer
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
You need to stop trolling mcfadden,…and hating on black qb`s,…you come off as bitter and weak,..man up bud.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
575.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
They killed russel while he was here & continue now that he is long gone but lets compare.
Russel 7-18 38 turnovers 3 year stay in Oakland
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers 1 1/2 seasons
Wow palmers is jamayo bad
But he isn’t the problem ?!?!?
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The Jizz Idol speaks
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue paid a ton to get Palmer. Good move Hue, you’re an awesome coach, I hope you come back so we can shatter the penalty record and come up short in the playoffs again.
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Lol. Yeah moron, we’re gonna do WAY better this year, aren’t we?
What a dope. Let’s whine about being 1 game away from the playoffs, when we won’t even SNIFF that this year.
Brilliant.
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Listen here, dmb fck. I’m playing into those who want Hue back but also knock Palmer for being our QB. He made the trade didn’t he? Never had a problem with Hue’s offense…Thanks.
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Right, which is why you mention things other than the trade. Like the penalties. And the record. Nice try, genius.
You’re welcome.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
That was classic when TP was talking to Carson, and Palmer kind of mumbled something and walked away while Terrell was still talking.
Shouldn’t Pryor be engaged with the OC or staff or something? Why is he always SITTING on the bench, talking to either Carson Palmer or nobody?
He doesn’t even have the ear thingy in anymore listening to plays. Shouldn’t he be up on the sidlelines taking in some mental reps?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Why doesn’t Palmer get the same treatment as no. 2?
He has posted nearly identical futility in half the time.
Russel 7-18 38 turn overs 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
We aren’t that far from getting the #1 pick with Palmer.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Clearly little mcfadden is jealous of certain people,…get over it man.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Rest*
Knapp*
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Somehow, all the focus has gone on Knapp as far as the hiring.
We are about the same offense as last year. 1 less point a game, way more passing yards and less penalties, obviously way less rushing yards.
But defensively, we have gotten and continue to get worse weekly.
Tarver should be the first pig led to slaughter. He can take Tyvon Branch and Briesel with him.
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Because we have weapons on offense where the strength was our running game, now we are dog crap in that category…Most of the points have come when we have been down 2 plus scores so the opposing team’s D tends to relax…Knapp is nowhere near Hue’s Offense, don’t know why you guys keep making that comparison
November 11th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
“Jamarcus Russel 3 seasons >>>>>> Newton 2 seasons
sad story really , Car messed up there”
Yeah Carolina got duped the same way Philadelphia did Vick is the turn over machine if there ever was one and Scam Newton better save his money because he is done. Once they take the training wheels off he falls flat on his face..
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These are guys Mistic believes are “wave of Futures” this is why the guy is the punching bag of the blog, then he comes in bashing Palmer after D allows 55 points, can anybody take this guy seriously?
if this guy was a gm for some team , he would be 0-16 every year
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
He doesn’t even have the ear thingy in anymore listening to plays. Shouldn’t he be up on the sidlelines taking in some mental reps?
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I’d rather he not listen to Dirt-Knapp’s play calling.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Wow palmers is jamayo bad
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Newton, 8-17 32 turnovers.
That’s the company Cam’s PLAY puts him in. Jamarcus Russell and Carson Palmer.
Really called that one didn’t you?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
You need to stop trolling mcfadden,…and hating on black qb`s,…you come off as bitter and weak,..man up bud.
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Are you that same Amy sissy who was touting the Whiners several weeks back? And then talking all big like you go to Raiders games and throw all these tailgates.
Lol. You’d get put down if you set foot on Oakland property.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
You need to stop trolling mcfadden,…and hating on black qb`s,…you come off as bitter and weak,..man up bud.
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OK any football takes, or you going to talk about non-sense?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Jfb bailed on Palmer today “trade” he said to the jets lol
Wouldn’t that make you a ” radical member of the fan base” lol
I told you he sucked, you finally realized your own folly
November 11th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
586.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Why doesn’t Palmer get the same treatment as no. 2?
He has posted nearly identical futility in half the time.
Russel 7-18 38 turn overs 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons
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SHHHHHH, the jizz idol speaks.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
You need to stop trolling mcfadden,…and hating on black qb`s,…you come off as bitter and weak,..man up bud.
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Are you that same Amy sissy who was touting the Whiners several weeks back? And then talking all big like you go to Raiders games and throw all these tailgates.
Lol. You’d get put down if you set foot on Oakland property.
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HAHAHHA yeah , he already called the whiners THE GREATEST team ever, and threw down those meet me at tailgate comments … too predictable
November 11th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Campbell and Bush looking pretty good. Liked both of ‘em. No hard feelings here.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
“Houston rarely blitzes more than any team in the league” Al Michaels
And yet they have lost 1 game and the Al haters hated Al for not blitzing
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Why would we go ‘empty backfield’ in the 2nd qtr. down by 10 when we actually had been able to run the ball a little…this “chasing points” excuse is weak as DA’s chin and Reggie’s grip on the English language…without a running game, or even attempting to run, this Offense is doomed…
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I just saw Campbell throw a ball at Matt Forte feet reminded me of when he was here…there is a reason he is holding a clipboard in Chicago.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
At least cam & no. 2 are young players that made mistakes, but a 10 year vet?!?!
A 10 year vet that cost a 1st a 2nd. & 11mil plus 13 next year?!?!?
Lol advantage cam & jamayo
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Why doesn’t Palmer get the same treatment as no. 2?
He has posted nearly identical futility in half the time.
Russel 7-18 38 turn overs 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons
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Cuz u are citing Russells ENTIRE CAREER NUMBERS.
Palmer actually DID have a couple of probowl yr’s.
Did Russell ever throw for 32 td’s and 12 int’s and just shy of 4,000 yd’s in a season and go 12-4?
No. He’s out of the league and widely considered by anybody who knows anything about football as being one of…if not THE biggest bust in NFL history.
That’s why.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
596.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Jfb bailed on Palmer today “trade” he said to the jets lol
Wouldn’t that make you a ” radical member of the fan base” lol
I told you he sucked, you finally realized your own folly
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THE JIZZ IDOL SPEAKS
November 11th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Only if we had listened to Mistic and traded up to get “wave of the future qb” # 1 in 2011
or if we just listened to him tell us how great VICK is , maybe we could have traded for him
man we would have been flying high with those qb’s
November 11th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Jfb bailed on Palmer today “trade” he said to the jets lol
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I said we will trade him to the Jets for a few weeks now.
Perfect fit. And we will draft a QB and play him ahead of TP6.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Funny you should bring up Jamarcus russel.
Chew on this impostor fans
Russel had a record of 7-18 with 38 turnovers.
Palmer 7-12 30 turnovers
You were saying?
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Russel would have had a lot more turnovers if was actually trying.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
At least cam & no. 2 are young players that made mistakes, but a 10 year vet?!?!
A 10 year vet that cost a 1st a 2nd. & 11mil plus 13 next year?!?!?
Lol advantage cam & jamayo
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LMFAO. While Russell is sitting around barbershops guzzling codeine syrup Palmer is still playing in the NFL.
Advantage Palmer.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
603.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
At least cam & no. 2 are young players that made mistakes, but a 10 year vet?!?!
A 10 year vet that cost a 1st a 2nd. & 11mil plus 13 next year?!?!?
Lol advantage cam & jamayo
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The Jizz Idol is diggin deep
November 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
“Houston rarely blitzes more than any team in the league” Al Michaels
And yet they have lost 1 game and the Al haters hated Al for not blitzing
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They have beast pass rushers, where we have DT trying to act like Lawrence Taylor
November 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
At least cam & no. 2 are young players that made mistakes, but a 10 year vet?!?!
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Well part of being a 10 year vet, is actually having the football ability to actually stay in the NFL for 10 years.
Crazy I know.
Jamarcus and Cam won’t have 10 years BETWEEN THEM.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 is Amy is Norcobob and he does go to most Raider games and he just really likes to instigate and talk sh1t. You never had a friend like that?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Jfb bailed on Palmer today “trade” he said to the jets lol
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I said we will trade him to the Jets for a few weeks now.
Perfect fit. And we will draft a QB and play him ahead of TP6.
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LMFAO good 1
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Mcfadden20 why is that little slow fella on your sack so hard?
Poor little handicapped guy, he is confused he was babbling nonsense this morning try to be nice its obvious he is mentally and emotionally unstable you might set the retard off and put the little guy on suicide watch.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Lol jfb
You have done a18o on Palmer now your lined up next to me in ditch palmer group. Only your at the back of the line becuase I told you months ago
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Soup looks really rusty. I don’t have anything against him. I actually like the guy’s persona and I do appreciate that it was him that tried to start us on the road to recovery. RM, DA & GK have killed whatever good we had established. Soup is a good ball manager but he’ll never be a starting NFL QB again. I don’t feel bad for him as now he can ride the pine for 7-10 years at $2-3M a year. That’s not a bad gig at all & he normally won’t even get dirty or need a shower after the game.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
DA has started the good old “double standard” where a couple guys get benched for their mistakes, Taiwan Jones, another guys who routinely make errors, Briesel and Smith continue to get to play…couldn’t be the last two are Reggie’s guys and Taiwan isn’t…
Can’t be good for the locker room to see this after all the talk about accountability.
What a freakin’ mess….#REGGIEMACISAHACK
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Mistic, come on. Even you aren’t that desperate. Citing Jabustus’ stats? Much more to a game than stats, my friend. Anyone who watched those Russell games would know that. I’m starting to wonder how many Raiders games you actually really watch, and how many you just look at the box score for your info.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
And we will get a 1st round pick for Palmer, at worst Palmer and a 5th for a 1st or something like that.
He has played his way into warranting a 1st round pick.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Put it this way Palmer is ok but not elite. Al’s death was Hue’s downfall.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
It’s all good if Cam leads Car back to #1 pick again in 2nd year , maybe that will upgrade to just top 5 after few seasons, he’s so young , he got so much potential
Where’s fred when you need him
Car needs to use his “10 and then plan with C Newton
November 11th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Remember the Void-Comp test from Blade Runner? “It’s a test designed to provoke an emotional response”? That’s Norcobob’s M.O.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
“JONGRUDEN2013 is Amy is Norcobob and he does go to most Raider games and he just really likes to instigate and talk sh1t. You never had a friend like that?”
Either that or an unstable mental patient that forgot to take his meds
November 11th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Mistic, come on. Even you aren’t that desperate. Citing Jabustus’ stats? Much more to a game than stats, my friend. Anyone who watched those Russell games would know that. I’m starting to wonder how many Raiders games you actually really watch, and how many you just look at the box score for your info.
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You’re wrong. He IS that desperate.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You have done a18o on Palmer now your lined up next to me in ditch palmer group.
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Not really a 180, I always said he wasn’t good enough to win a Super Bowl.
I think he has earned the right to start in 2013 and see if he makes the playoffs, or not bounce. Same as Soup from 2010 to 2011.
But I think the Jets will be desperate and give us an offer we can’t refuse.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Later worshipers
Palmer is having a jamarcuss esque run of futility in half the time
No. 2 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Mcfadden20 why is that little slow fella on your sack so hard?
Poor little handicapped guy, he is confused he was babbling nonsense this morning try to be nice its obvious he is mentally and emotionally unstable you might set the retard off and put the little guy on suicide watch.
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I exposed him really bad, he/she couldn’t handle getting abused like that on this blog, i hope poor guy is having fun in tahoe and not thinking about suicide lol
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
What makes you so sure we won’t get the #1 pick in the draft?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
There is no such thing as “Reggie’s Guys”. Why isn’t Criner getting more playing time? How about Bergstrom? Why is Leinart not starting over Palmer?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
BRING BACK GRUDEN! Thats it, He’ll Fix it!
CHUCKY- CHUCKY -CHUCKY
HE WILL BE WAITING IN THE FILM ROOM ON MONDAY MORNING! “HEADS WILL ROLL “
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I can’t believe you guys are discussing the qb when we just gave up 55 pt’s in a game.
Palmer is one of the top 5 QB’s for the week statistically and we’re discussing how HE was the problem?
Unbelievable.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Sorry fellows, morning game and started drinking early. Got tomorrow off, gonna keep drinking till my wif makes me go to bed.
#jizz idol lol, that’s just fkn funny
November 11th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Later worshipers
Palmer is having a jamarcuss esque run of futility in half the time
No. 2 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons
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You ain’t going anywhere , you will sign on some different ID’s it’s all good , we will have fun with Fred’s 10 and then plan for C Newton
November 11th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Mistic’s stats on Palmer ALWAYS start with the 4 turnover game in KC, with him citing that as a loss and a start.
Pretty funny. I was hoping he would just go with a revolving 16 game snapshot, but no such luck. Or maybe only his games he actually started.
No dice.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Right now, only 4 teams have worse records than the Raiders. There are a lot of 3-6 teams. Raiders could get a top 5 pick.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
JONGRUDEN2013 is Amy is Norcobob and he does go to most Raider games and he just really likes to instigate and talk sh1t. You never had a friend like that?
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Yeah. In middle school.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
What makes you so sure we won’t get the #1 pick in the draft?
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Chiefs aren’t winning 3 of their next 8 games.
We will pick right around #11, after a 6-10 season.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
“Mistic, come on. Even you aren’t that desperate. Citing Jabustus’ stats? Much more to a game than stats, my friend. Anyone who watched those Russell games would know that. I’m starting to wonder how many Raiders games you actually really watch, and how many you just look at the box score for your info.”
Pretty sure he hasn’t watched much football from the way he talks so you may be right about him just reading box scores.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
couldn’t be the last two are Reggie’s guys and Taiwan isn’t…
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That’s exactly it.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Right now, only 4 teams have worse records than the Raiders. There are a lot of 3-6 teams. Raiders could get a top 5 pick.
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Don’t know how those tiebreakers work out.
As of right now, we could be picking between #5 and #11
November 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
See what happens when JC has to lead with his arm lol
November 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
“DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I can’t believe you guys are discussing the qb when we just gave up 55 pt’s in a game.
Palmer is one of the top 5 QB’s for the week statistically and we’re discussing how HE was the problem?
Unbelievable.”
Cosigned!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
“JONGRUDEN2013 is Amy is Norcobob and he does go to most Raider games and he just really likes to instigate and talk sh1t. You never had a friend like that?”
Either that or an unstable mental patient that forgot to take his meds==========================================
I’m not speculating and he’s not being duplicitous. Just ask him, he’ll tell you.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Later worshipers
Palmer is having a jamarcuss esque run of futility in half the time
No. 2 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons
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Yes please leave so intelligent people can discuss football.
You make the whole blog dumber simply by your presence on it.
Go spew your idiotic, laughable takes on some other hapless blog and get some mental help.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Sheeet you see this team getting 3 more wins? I wouldn’t call any games we have left a gimme, including the Chefs.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Truth is TJones probably parked in Knapp’s parking spot. Payback is a SOB.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Taiwan is not any good people, the last staff never played him, this staff isn’t playing him.
He will be out of the league soon. Too many good RB’s come into the league every year who can break tackles and pass block.
He can’t do either.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue paid a ton to get Palmer. Good move Hue, you’re an awesome coach, I hope you come back so we can shatter the penalty record and come up short in the playoffs again.
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Lol. Yeah moron, we’re gonna do WAY better this year, aren’t we?
What a dope. Let’s whine about being 1 game away from the playoffs, when we won’t even SNIFF that this year.
Brilliant.
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Listen here, dmb fck. I’m playing into those who want Hue back but also knock Palmer for being our QB. He made the trade didn’t he? Never had a problem with Hue’s offense…Thanks.
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Right, which is why you mention things other than the trade. Like the penalties. And the record. Nice try, genius.
You’re welcome.
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Please do share the moonshine and possum you’re having. Never had a problem with his OFFENSE! Palmer is not the problem, the problem is the signing of Knapp and the rest of the team. Keep replying though, this is fun. lol
November 11th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
JC set another guy up for injury, he’s responsible for zach Miller
November 11th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I can’t believe you guys are discussing the qb when we just gave up 55 pt’s in a game.
Palmer is one of the top 5 QB’s for the week statistically and we’re discussing how HE was the problem?
Unbelievable.
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Ignorance. Or trolls. I’m hoping the latter, because that means these people aren’t really that dumb.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
You know, I’ve been a raider fan my whole life, but there’s no freaking way they win 6 games.
Maybe not their worst coaches ever but the season’s not done yet.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Actually, Jason Campbell would be a perfect QB for Knapp’s offense. JC is a free agent again next year.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Sheeet you see this team getting 3 more wins? I wouldn’t call any games we have left a gimme, including the Chefs.
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Chiefs, Panthers, Browns.
I think they have 4 wins combined right now. We win the games our QB is better. Got lucky against Pitt, could happen to another team (San Diego maybe).
6 or 7 wins.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
mike brisel signed for 5 years –his cap hit if cut any of the next 4 years is between 4.5 and 5 million. We gave Mike Brisiel 20 mil and signed branch. The Texans spent 20 million on danieal manning who is a playmaker in the secondary. ..reggies got alot to learn and prove to raider nation..
November 11th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Later worshipers
Palmer is having a jamarcuss esque run of futility in half the time
No. 2 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons ========= GO WATCH YOUR BABOON CAMPBELL LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
How many plays were wastes with their meager 3 yd rushing avg?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Its funny though, last year the Offensive line seemed to be pretty good…
Maybe Satele was the missing link
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Satele is part of rebuilt Indy line that has a lot of people talking positively. Along with Luck, they are why that offense is starting to take off.
Meanwhile, Raider fans in this blog and other places couldn’t wait to get rid of him. Clearly we all know more than the NFL does.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
If the Raiders finish 7-9, I will consider that remarkable.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I thought the Briesel signing would be solid, put admittadly I don’t dig in deep on the Houston Texans O-line game footage.
I started really harping on him in the AZ preseason game, when he was getting abused.
He has literally been downright awful since day one.
He is no Savage.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
“See what happens when JC has to lead with his arm lol”
Yeah as soon as I heard he was coming in the second half I quickly went to Oddsmaker.ag and put a $100 on Houston for the second half and got them at +2.5 looks like I will cash in on my knowledge of how shltty Jason Campbell is as a QB!!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
The only people on the team who shouldn’t be open to criticism are Taiwan, TP (because we have no idea what they have) and our kickers.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Soup is going to end up in KC next year
November 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Knapp recruited a bust…way to go man!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Satele was a beast in the screen game, clearly elite at it.
The screen’s don’t quite pop like they used to.
I credit that to Samson.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Actually, Jason Campbell would be a perfect QB for Knapp’s offense. JC is a free agent again next year.
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JC is getting an opportunity as I type to show us all exactly why he no longer starts in this league.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
DA’s after game speach in the locker room started with Hey, who the fk are you #22.
Are you on the team?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
ChrisinNC Says: Yeah. In middle school.===============
Can’t argue with that. Not defending Norco, he bugs me too. But I know he’s deliberately tweaking us as opposed to being a genuinely clueless moron like mistic.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
i’m just glad we have a great quarterback on our team. probably the best qb the raiders have ever had. he’s really the only reason to watch right now. just plays his azz off and never gives up. he could get to 5000 yards this year and close to 30 td’s!
awesome player!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
fangsraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Later worshipers
Palmer is having a jamarcuss esque run of futility in half the time
No. 2 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons
Palmer 7-12 30 turn overs 1.5 seasons ========= GO WATCH YOUR BABOON CAMPBELL LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AMY BACK AT ACTION … never fail to disappoint
November 11th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
HAHAHA JC LOCKED INTO FORTE
November 11th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
JC is so afraid to throw an INT. He is the opposite of Palmer.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I guess we should have known what to expect today when we went for it on 4th down, and Briesel stepped on the QB’s foot, with his instant collapsing pocket routine.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
mistic = black fangs
November 11th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
If the Raiders finish 7-9, I will consider that remarkable.
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Miraculous would be more descriptive
November 11th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Maxzombie Says: Soup is going to end up in KC next year=
I’d almost feel bad having to jeer him. Jeer, not fear. Hey, I like that.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Another thing, wtf is Curry doing? Him and 55 need to get together and open a burrito stand.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
To reply to Mistic, one of your QBs has won 1 of 47 Super Bowls. Stop knocking Carson. #2 is the worst joke in NFL history!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
HAHAHA JC LOCKED INTO FORTE
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I think I just figured JC out. Most guys go through their progressions: 1 … 2 … 3 … until they find one open. He goes through his 3 … 2 … 1 …. until he finds one open or throws it out of bounds.
On the other hand, he has a nice touch on those little 7 yard dart passes. I guess he gets a LOT of practice with them.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I got respect for Campbell being willing to come to this place when we were in the sewers and completely horrendous. He helped turn this thing around (well, before this disaster of a year).
WITH THAT BEING SAID, the guy is not an NFL starting QB that will lead you to the playoffs. This final drive says all you need to know. Checkdowns, when the defense is baiting you to do it, just because he wants to play it safe.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Another thing, wtf is Curry doing?
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He is awful.
Think we could trade him for a 5th round pick like we gave up? I don’t think we could get a 5th round pick in 2024 for him.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Chiefs, Panthers, Browns.
I think they have 4 wins combined right now. We win the games our QB is better. Got lucky against Pitt, could happen to another team (San Diego maybe).
6 or 7 wins.
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2 of our 3 wins came against 1 win teams and we had to win 1 of those in OT.
No game is a gimme for this team. 7 wins is definitely a stretch at this point.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
hate to say it but we are probably headed for 5-11. it’s not all bad though, cuz we’ll have a chance at manti teo. that kid will absolutely change the entire mindset of the defense. with teo, burris, and wheeler, plus a legit pass rusher or two, the defense will rise about 20 spots in one year.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
This is JC we have gotten to know so well without running game,
November 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Satele was a beast in the screen game, clearly elite at it.
The screen’s don’t quite pop like they used to.
I credit that to Samson.
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He was a huge loss. Huge. Impacted the Oline more than I thought it would.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
They do not care much for Jason in Chicago. He is terrible.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
This team should rarely run the ball. 3 yd avg.
The experiment has been over.
Raiders haven’t had a good D since the Howie Long days. Been awhile. Going to take awhile to fix it.
but the coaching is X##$!*&//?+
November 11th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Vick > mistic
November 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Reggie does not have clue how to make a mteam competitive short term.. He based his decision to hire Dennis Allen on a GUT feeling in which he has a large one. So why would Mark Davis challenge a GUT feeling?He should have not base his decision on a Gut decision. He should have based his decision on who he had on the team and how he could have bettered the team this year.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Peace Nation!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I guess we should have known what to expect today when we went for it on 4th down, and Briesel stepped on the QB’s foot, with his instant collapsing pocket routine.
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Take the cap hit a dump this turd. Trade him back to Texans. Ask about our money back guarantee. LOL
November 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
5-11
I would like to think we can beat KC one more time
November 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Campbell is incapable of attempting more than 1 or 2 throws down field. The ultimate Cap’n Checkdown.
You could tell the Bears fans were like, WTF?, watching him try to lead that last drive or two. Even Collinsworth was like man, you’ve gotta take a shot there.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says: I guess we should have known what to expect today when we went for it on 4th down, and Briesel stepped on the QB’s foot, with his instant collapsing pocket routine.========================
Went from feeling like a bully to feeling like a chump real quick.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Zymurge Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
HAHAHA JC LOCKED INTO FORTE
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I think I just figured JC out. Most guys go through their progressions: 1 … 2 … 3 … until they find one open. He goes through his 3 … 2 … 1 …. until he finds one open or throws it out of bounds.
On the other hand, he has a nice touch on those little 7 yard dart passes. I guess he gets a LOT of practice with them. ================ I DOUBT HE CAN COUNT THAT HIGH
November 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
ChrisinNC Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I got respect for Campbell being willing to come to this place when we were in the sewers and completely horrendous.
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He didn’t have a choice. He was trade to the Raiders.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Later, 78.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
2 of our 3 wins came against 1 win teams and we had to win 1 of those in OT.
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And the other win is against a playoff team.
Our schedule is ridiculously easy, by NFL standards. Winning 6 or 7 games is no feat.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
these players will NOT be raiders next season:
carlisle
dmc
taiwan
kelly
seymour
tollefson
carter
mcclain
curry
goethel
lechler
that’s a lot of money to spend on free agents.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I JUST FOUND JAMARCUS = http://www.chimpout.com/forum/imagehosting/34cf031bc14e6f.gif
November 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
What???
JC couldn’t put any points on the board?
How can that be?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
What say you j Campbell kickers now? What a joke! Even the announcers said he is not a viable back up for cutler. I,ll take Palmer over cutler all day!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says: I guess we should have known what to expect today when we went for it on 4th down, and Briesel stepped on the QB’s foot, with his instant collapsing pocket routine.========================
Went from feeling like a bully to feeling like a chump real quick.
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Don’t forget next drive, False starting , and SMith letting his guy run right past him to hurry Palmer into a throw short of marker, don’t forget False start inside 10, and then Knapp calling plays like its a high school game on the 4th drive that ended up in an int
November 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Top prospects 2013 draft: (repost 1)
DE
*Bjoern Werner DE Florida State 6-4 256
*Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M 6-4 250
*Sam Montgomery DE LSU 6-5 260
Alex Okafor DE Texas 6-5 265
Dion Jordan DE Oregon 6-6 243
DT
*Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State 6-3 320
Star Lotulelei DT Utah 6-3 320
John Jenkins DT Georgia 6-3 358
Jesse Williams DT Alabama 6-3 320
*Sheldon RichardsonDT Missouri 6-3 295
MLB
Manti Te’o MLB Notre Dame 6-2 255
OLB
*Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia 6-2 242
*Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU 6-4 240
*C.J. Mosley OLB Alabama 6-2 232
Chase Thomas OLB Stanford 6-4 248
CB
*Dee Milliner CB Alabama 6-1 198
Johnthan Banks CB Miss. St. 6-1 185
*Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St. 6-1 217
*David Amerson CB N. Carolina St. 6-2 194
FS
*Eric Reid FS LSU 6-2 212
SS
*Matt Elam SS Florida 5-10 202
OT
*Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M 6-6 310
*Taylor Lewan OT Michigan 6-7 310
*Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M 6-5 305
Eric Fisher OT Cent. Mich. 6-7 305
OG
Chance Warmack OG Alabama 6-2 322
Barrett Jones OG Alabama 6-4 305
Jonathan Cooper OG North Carolina 6-3 310
C
Khaled Holmes C So. Cal. 6-3 305
RB
*Giovani Bernard RB North Carolina 5-10 205
TE
*Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame 6-5 252
WR
*Keenan Allen WR California 6-3 210
*Justin Hunter WR Tennessee 6-4 200
*DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson 6-1 200
*Robert Woods WR So. Cal. 6-1 190
QB
Geno Smith QB West Virginia 6-3 220
Matt Barkley QB So. Cal. 6-2 230
Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas 6-2 218
So, where do we begin? We need a little bit of each category. Hard to say which is MOST IMPORTANT.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
J Campbell lickers
November 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
From the beginning, DA has not seemed to value field position…
From the fakes on special teams, to going for it on 4th down just across mid field to start todays game…we have consistently started with very poor field position while our opposition seems to start near mid field every possesion.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
cutting Rolando mcclain next year is a 6.7 million hit to the cap. would have been 3.6 million if Reggie cut him this year. not sure how it works with in season cuts, but id send mclain packing now if cutting him saves 3 million next year. branch gets 6 million plus 1.5 signing bonus plus 3 million roster bonus next year. ouch
November 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Raiders for life Says:
Vick > mistic===========================================
Way more athletic, and way smarter. And I don’t think Vick is very smart.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
http://www.chimpout.com/forum/imagehosting/34cf031bc14e6f.gif ====== I THINK HE’S GOING TO TRY OUT TO BE A CLOSER FOR THE SF GIANTS
November 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can the Raiders get out of Brisells contract. It’s pretty hefty at 5mil a year?
Starting to think my daughter could play better.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
I am rooting for a Houston and Atlanta Super Bowl. It would be nice to see a new Champ.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
If we had that JC guy Mistic is all obsessed about without running game we would be the laughing stock of the league with record of 0-9 right now
November 11th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
these players will NOT be raiders next season:
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I will add Gio and Branch to that list.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
What???
JC couldn’t put any points on the board?
How can that be?
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There are still some jabroneys on this board who lament losing Campbell and think he’s a better QB than Palmer. Totally unbelievable.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
i KNOW ur daughter could play better and i’ve no idea who she is.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
If we convert to 3-4 , i would love to get Jarvis Jones from Georgia
November 11th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
There is going to be at least 1 guy, that The Reggie wants to cut but can’t get out of it for cap purposes in 2013.
The list of candidates is Rolando, TK, Lechler, Seymour, Branch.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
708.Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Raiders for life Says:
Vick > mistic===========================================
Way more athletic, and way smarter. And I don’t think Vick is very smart.
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Good point, I will take that into consideration.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
missdick knows what he’s doing. he’s a troll. it’s sullivan for sure.
palmer is the one good thing about the team, so he is trying to attack him, just to fuk with our enjoyment.
he’s easy to sniff out.
a pathetic excuse for a man, for sure. probably a psychotic shut-in, who has created in his mind, intricate “personalities” that he spends his life on. a tortured soul. i feel sorry for him.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
715.dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
i KNOW ur daughter could play better and i’ve no idea who she is.
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Thanks for being nice, I set myself up for that one.
I’ll leave her out of this mess.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Chucky is available!
If the price is right.
TURN OFF THE LIGHT THE PARTY IS OVER
ALL HEADS WILL ROLL!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
There is going to be at least 1 guy, that The Reggie wants to cut but can’t get out of it for cap purposes in 2013.
The list of candidates is Rolando, TK, Lechler, Seymour, Branch.
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I know man , Lechler should be one of them but i think he will become the casualty due to not being able to cut other players for cap purposes
November 11th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Briesel got a 5 year deal?
That is proof that Reggie has zero clue what he’s doing…
Guy might be the worst player on the o-line, with only Willie Smith(another Reggie signing)possibly worse…
There was a reason he spent 18 years without an offer to become a GM…
Reggie McMillen in the house.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can the Raiders get out of Brisel’s contract. It’s pretty hefty at 5mil a year?
Starting to think my daughter could play better.
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If RM is such a great judge of talent how did we end up with Brisel at $5M? I’m beginning to wonder. All these guys that have been cut in favor of these no name DB’s is another concern.
THIS IS A SERIOUS CONCERN ESPECIALLY IF RM IS PICKING ALL OUR NEW TALENT. HAS HE EVEN GOTTEN ONE RIGHT YET? THAT’S A FAIR QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ASIDE FROM WHEELER & BURRIS, NO ONE ELSE COMES TO MIND.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Why even put Taiwan Jones on the plane to Baltimore if you’re going to give him three lousy touches? This coaching staff is a dumpster fire.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
And the other win is against a playoff team.
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The only 2 decent teams the Steelers have beaten the Giants and Cincy. I wouldn’t go counting our win against them as proof we will roll over anyone that includes the Ducks.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Raiders for life Says:
Can the Raiders get out of Brisells contract. It’s pretty hefty at 5mil a year?=====================
Didn’t think it was that high. If it is, they got some ’splainin to do.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Lechler shouldn’t be one of them *** ^^^
November 11th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
the only good thing right now is that with a good draft and some wise FA signings, we can turn it around quickly, cuz as we know, we have a really good qb. the record-setting golden haired hero would absolutely thrive with some better support. i’m enjoying watching him succeed under ridiculously tuff circumstances. probably my favorite raider right now.
along with wheeler and burris.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
was bergstrom in there at RT? how much of the game?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Briesel got a 5 year deal?
That is proof that Reggie has zero clue what he’s doing…
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I will give you the signing as an indicator.
But as we know due to Al, these contracts never seem to even get close to their initial years.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
725.Chris in NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Why even put Taiwan Jones on the plane to Baltimore if you’re going to give him three lousy touches? This coaching staff is a dumpster fire.
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DUDE, I’ve been asking that all day, why is he even on the fkn team? Knapp won’t use him, uggggghhhhh
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I was looking for Bergs, and didn’t see him in once.
But I did not tune in to the Leinart reps, so maybe he was in then.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
729, that’s a joke right? It’s hard to tell on this blog.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Briesel contract was stupid , IDK what it is , maybe he’s good and just not playing at his level this year, but it’s still stupid to throw that much money on a OG in ZBS , we could have held a try out from undrafted players, they could have given the same performance for way less and without f8king up the cap situation
November 11th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
i really have started to think that this coaching staff sucks. i’m usually an optimist but the team has really gone downhill. i see nothing to suggest they can turn it around.
what i have seen is that al davis was a great man.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
725.Chris in NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Why even put Taiwan Jones on the plane to Baltimore if you’re going to give him three lousy touches? This coaching staff is a dumpster fire.
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DUDE, I’ve been asking that all day, why is he even on the fkn team? Knapp won’t use him, uggggghhhhh
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I mean, you’ve got a guy with electrifying, game-breaking potential. Basically everyone around the Raiders say he may be the fastest guy they’ve ever seen play the game. Palmer is talking up all week about how he can’t wait to see him in action. We’re getting our doors blown off — a perfect time to at least see what the kid can do … and he gets three touches?!?! Totally unacceptable and proof that this coaching staff IS TERRIBLE.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Maybe Briesel will be a good soldier next year and reconstructure his contract for half the price and we give him another try next year , cut him in pre-season if he’s upto his usual business
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
love him or hate him you might as well root for palmer because unless he retires hes not going anywhere. he restructured last year and this year to get an enormous bump next year. his dropped his salary to about 4.6 million this year and next year it goes up to 17mill and 19 mill in 2014. Since he’s a QB , when Hue signed him to the 4 year 43million contract i’m assuming unlike position players his salary is guaranteed. So my guess is he’s our QB through 2014 and some cutting of other contracts will go too paying him. Of course he could restructure but we will see.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
BRISEL HAS KNAPP’S FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER THAT DEAL
November 11th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
JB
Tell you what, you, me and probably most of the Nation are wondering the same thing. At this point of the season it’s safe to say we can start talking 2013 draft. AND COACHING STAFF
November 11th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
I mean, you’ve got a guy with electrifying, game-breaking potential.
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LOL
November 11th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
i really have started to think that this coaching staff sucks. i’m usually an optimist but the team has really gone downhill. i see nothing to suggest they can turn it around.
what i have seen is that al davis was a great man.
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Exactly man , i had a feeling every time something good happened would be followed by something bad ,remember when they were getting yards with those wide receiver screens, Knapp got too greedy with those and kept dialing em up , i knew something bad was going to happen , and that’s what happened on that tip and INt , then he never ever called that play again
November 11th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Knapp sucks but I don’t think you can pin an Int on him.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Let’s not forget that Mike Sherman & Ted Thompson both were hired as GM’s in Green Bay before Reggie.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Raiders for life Says:
Can the Raiders get out of Brisells contract. It’s pretty hefty at 5mil a year?=====================
Didn’t think it was that high. If it is, they got some ’splainin to do.
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Brisiel signed 5 yrs 20 million. he only took a 700k salary this year and he had a 3.4 million signing bonus spread out over 5 years. next year his salary is 4.3 million and 680,000 signing bonus. Not 100% sure how it works, but if raiders cut him I think they have to pay the rest of signing bonus (about 2,6 mil) , and whatever amount if any of his salary which is gauranteed
November 11th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Congratulations RAIDERNATION!
RAIDERS ARE # 2 In worst team
NFL WORST TEAMS
# 1- KC CHIEFS
# 2- RAIDERS
# 3-BROWNS
GO RAIDERS – YEAH JUST LOSE BABY!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
You can pin the INT’s on CP having to get rid of the ball and him trying to make silk of a pigs a$$.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Knapp sucks but I don’t think you can pin an Int on him.
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But you can def pin it on his play call
November 11th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
725.Chris in NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Why even put Taiwan Jones on the plane to Baltimore if you’re going to give him three lousy touches? This coaching staff is a dumpster fire.
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DUDE, I’ve been asking that all day, why is he even on the fkn team? Knapp won’t use him, uggggghhhhh
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I mean, you’ve got a guy with electrifying, game-breaking potential. Basically everyone around the Raiders say he may be the fastest guy they’ve ever seen play the game. Palmer is talking up all week about how he can’t wait to see him in action. We’re getting our doors blown off — a perfect time to at least see what the kid can do … and he gets three touches?!?! Totally unacceptable and proof that this coaching staff IS TERRIBLE.
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Holla!
November 11th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
737.Chris in NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
725.Chris in NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Why even put Taiwan Jones on the plane to Baltimore if you’re going to give him three lousy touches? This coaching staff is a dumpster fire.
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DUDE, I’ve been asking that all day, why is he even on the fkn team? Knapp won’t use him, uggggghhhhh
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I mean, you’ve got a guy with electrifying, game-breaking potential. Basically everyone around the Raiders say he may be the fastest guy they’ve ever seen play the game. Palmer is talking up all week about how he can’t wait to see him in action. We’re getting our doors blown off — a perfect time to at least see what the kid can do … and he gets three touches?!?! Totally unacceptable and proof that this coaching staff IS TERRIBLE.
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Brother Chris first of all I hope all is well with the storms you’ve had to go through.
Second. I have a hard time understanding Knapps philosophy with Jones. Cut him and make a roster spot or fkn use the guy and get your money’s worth. WTF?
November 11th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
omoran Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Congratulations RAIDERNATION!
RAIDERS ARE # 2 In worst team
NFL WORST TEAMS
# 1- KC CHIEFS
# 2- RAIDERS
# 3-BROWNS
GO RAIDERS – YEAH JUST LOSE BABY!
—–
SAD LITTLE PATHETIC AMY
LOL @ I live in Tahoe
November 11th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
729, that’s a joke right? It’s hard to tell on this blog.
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no!!! we have a good qb. that’s a big deal.
if we replace a couple o-linemen and find a real RB (goodson?), our run game would improve dramatically, and our passing game is obviously very good. with an improved line, palmer would be even better.
with one or two pass rushers, and a new dynamic MLB, like manti teo, the front seven would improve exponentially. we will need a better secondary, but with a better pass rush, they are serviceable.
so we’re talking about adding a handful of players who could turn the team around immediately.
but we also need better depth for special teams.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
I already posted the top rated 2013 players for the draft. The real question is where do we begin. I’m thinking, if he’s still there:
• Manti Te’o MLB Notre Dame, 6-2, 255
The MLB prospects are very few in number & we really need one badly. McCheese will be gone & is not worth a schit anyway. We’ve all seen that great defenses have the star MLB (i.e. RLewis, PWillis, BUrlacher, etc.). I figure we are a top 5 pick so we may have a shot at Te’o.
November 11th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
If I’m Mark Davis, the first thing I do is can Reggie and the entire coaching staff. OK, if I’m Mark Davis the first thing I do is toke a bone and admire my sweet haircut. But then I can Reggie and DA.
Then I turn my attention to these guys to lead my team as next head coach (and I conduct more than one interview before turning over the keys to the Raiders this time):
- Bill Cowher
- Jon Gruden
- Hue Jackson
- Chip Kelly
- Chris Petersen
November 11th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
But you can def pin it on his play call
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Or you can pin it on the guy who through it.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
taiwan Jones like DVD is overated by some in this blog and isnt worth complaining about. did you see him have adams fumble slip through his hands? taiwan is fast but thats it. hes had as many fumbles or muffs as any other player and he hasnt been on the field.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I was willing to be patient…(begrudgingly). DA said the goal was “to get better each day”.
This blowout today might have been acceptable the first two games of the season, and then see gradual improvement, but what does it say when the team regresses to this level?
Only nine games in and the season is over.
I’m sick of the Raiders being a punchline.
Raiders have great fans that deserve better than this.
DA says this is “unacceptable”.
Well what are you gonna do about it beanpole?
More nauseating, tiresome cliches will not fix anything.
We want to see progress ON THE FIELD.
I’m just so sick of all this crap.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
The first thing a good GM does is evaluate the team and make it more competive in any aspect of the game. The reason for this is because he will have something to build on and then he can aquire some of the missing pieces to make the team more competitive while trimming the fat economically. He does not start by firing the nucleus that ignited the offensive gains that had not been there in years.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
It is said an NFL team takes on the personality of it’s head coach…
If that is so, this team has become a spineless punk, that takes a beating with little fight.
Harbaugh just HUMILIATED EVERY PLAY, COACH AND FAN, and what do we hear?
“That’s unacceptable”…no freakin way, really? Unacceptable? Cause you sure seemed to accept it pretty easy on Sunday DA.
Time to sack up, or get gone Denise…at least act like you’ve got a pair.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Raiders salaries
2013-14
DHB 7.5 M
Tommy Kelly 6.5
Dmac 5.8
Seabass 3.8
Jon Condo 1.2
Rich Sey 7.5
CP3 13
M Huff 4
November 11th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I understand about Jones. but cut him loose and free up a spot if he aint worth a sht.
Would like to see him get a shot though. Today….nadda.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
755. I was talking about watching CP succeed. Like I said he is a good QB, not elite but good. 3-6 is hardly succeeding.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
The point is, is that there is no reason to cut someone like DVD & replace them with the Pat Lee, Adams, Joselio Hansen when DVD is an unknown…At least see what he is capable of before just cutting him…If he sucks under Allen/Tarver so be it, but give him a chance instead of hiring journeymen like Hansen who likes talking trash when we’re down 20+points.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I mean, you’ve got a guy with electrifying, game-breaking potential. Basically everyone around the Raiders say he may be the fastest guy they’ve ever seen play the game. Palmer is talking up all week about how he can’t wait to see him in action. We’re getting our doors blown off — a perfect time to at least see what the kid can do … and he gets three touches?!?! Totally unacceptable and proof that this coaching staff IS TERRIBLE.
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But he might FUMBLE!
Seriously… when you are down my a ton of points, turnovers are the least of your worries… you just need POINTS and you get the players on the field that will give you the best chance to score them.
I don’t understand anything this team does on offense. It all seems so haphazard and amateurish.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
JB Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
I already posted the top rated 2013 players for the draft. The real question is where do we begin. I’m thinking, if he’s still there:
• Manti Te’o MLB Notre Dame, 6-2, 255
The MLB prospects are very few in number & we really need one badly. McCheese will be gone & is not worth a schit anyway. We’ve all seen that great defenses have the star MLB (i.e. RLewis, PWillis, BUrlacher, etc.). I figure we are a top 5 pick so we may have a shot at Te’o.
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teo is the real deal! i’m a huge irish fan and i’ve watched every game he’s player for four years. he’s smart, insticnctive, aggressive, a warrior, a leader, huge heart, fast, strong, natural football player. his presence on the field goes beyond what he can do personall. he’s like junior seau.
even though our most glaring need is pass rusher, teo will elevate EVERYONE’s play. he is the anti-mcclain.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
2romes Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
The first thing a good GM does is evaluate the team and make it more competive in any aspect of the game. The reason for this is because he will have something to build on and then he can aquire some of the missing pieces to make the team more competitive while trimming the fat economically. He does not start by firing the nucleus that ignited the offensive gains that had not been there in years.
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again…Holla!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
The greater the power the bigger the ego can be. Reggie had the greater power not Hue. I have been hearing in a whisper Hue had an ego. Right now I like the guy with the smaller ego.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
HueKnewButHisEgoGrew Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
755. I was talking about watching CP succeed. Like I said he is a good QB, not elite but good. 3-6 is hardly succeeding.
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palmer has been succeeding. it takes a team to win or lose. he’s been doing everything he can under constant duress with no running game. wins and losses are on the team and it’s coaching staff.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
nycraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
taiwan Jones like DVD is overated by some in this blog and isnt worth complaining about. did you see him have adams fumble slip through his hands? taiwan is fast but thats it. hes had as many fumbles or muffs as any other player and he hasnt been on the field.
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So Stewart was the answer?
I’d like to see it with my own eyes before I write him off. Cork seems to think he is an electrifying player… what makes you think he isn’t? Do you watch the practices? Because it isn’t in actual games… they don’t let him play.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $20,000,000 Signing Bonus $3,400,000 Average Salary $4,000,000 End Year: 2016 Free Agent: 2017 / Unrestricted
Base Salary S. Bonus Misc. Bonus Cap Hit
2012 700,000 680,000 - 1,380,000
2013 4,350,000 680,000 - 5,030,000
2014 3,850,000 680,000 - 4,530,000
2015 3,850,000 680,000 - 4,530,000
2016 3,850,000 680,000 - 4,530,000
2017 UFA
Signing Bonus: $3.4 million
November 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Listen up -RAIDERNATION! ONE SOLUTION ONLY! !
MAN UP!
Disolve this awful team-Stop the FINGER POINTING at players.
Get Rid off them and start from Scratch NEW GROUP OF PLAYERS AND NEW DRAFT PICKS.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
joselio hanson was an idiot. talking smack about one pass defensed. then harbaugh rubs it in our face with the fake kick, while having a huge lead. it was a classless move from harbaugh, but it was clearly in retaliation for hanson’s ridiculous behavior.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
lol at anti McClain.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
DA hates taiwan. it’s clear as day. he is in the doghouse. our FB and a PS kid played in front of him. taiwan will never play if DA is the coach. get rid of one of them. or both.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Palmer got 2 more years , with 13 M next year, safe to say his contract will be extended to salary cap friendly 5 years with making around 7-8 next year
November 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
I like Te’o and think he’ll be a good player. But I don’t see him as the next Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Patrick Willis. I just don’t think he has quite that burst and playmaking explosiveness that those guys have. The other problem is that in today’s passing NFL MLBs are not the impact players they were in yesterday’s NFL. More often than not, teams are playing nickel coverage with only two LBs on the field. So as much as I like Te’o as a college player and think he’ll be a solid pro, I’d most likely be looking for an elite pass rusher or offensive lineman with that first pick.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
possible palmer is traded to a team like arizona? get some picks?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Reggie should do a “State of the Raiders” address and answer to why this “New Era of Excellence” has failed so miserbally.
We’re still the same old embarrassment we have always been.
Reggie and DA haven’t fixed squat.
Less penalties? Who gives a red rats rip. So freaking what.
I’m sick of trying to dissect this thing and analyize it. It’s pointless.
We are the worst team in football.
Congratulations Reggie.
Great job.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
possible palmer is traded to a team like arizona? get some picks?
—– Where do we go from there ? who do we get at QB?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Oakland also signed Houston Texans guard Mike Brisiel. Brisiel, who started 13 games at guard last season for Houston, has extensive experience with two of the Raiders’ new assistants. Oakland offensive coordinator Greg Knapp was quarterbacks coach with the Texans the past two seasons and offensive line coach Frank Pollack was an assistant line coach for all of Brisiel’s five seasons with the Texans.=============================
Leaves me with two choices. Brisiel in particular, and every one else on our offensive line(all with ZBS experience) have suddenly forgotten how to play, or Knapp’s peculiar version of the ZBS is just untenable and unteachable and flat out sucks.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
775.dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
joselio hanson was an idiot. talking smack about one pass defensed. then harbaugh rubs it in our face with the fake kick, while having a huge lead. it was a classless move from harbaugh, but it was clearly in retaliation for hanson’s ridiculous behavior.
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Funny you mention that. My pal and I watched the game and my friend was FKN PISSED that Hairball ran up the score like that. I told my friend this aint no college game. He didn’t buy it, he was pissed off.. the beer didn’t help.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Raiders for life Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
lol at anti McClain.
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That was good & accurate. McWhiffer needs to go, quickly!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
teo is listed by todd mcshay as the #3 player in the draft and kiper has him at #2. that’s really high for a MLB. it speaks volumes about him. luckily, because he’s a MLB, he will likely slip a few spots. right to the raiders. there are also some good pass rushers so it will be tempting to take one, but teo is like getting a franchise qb for ur defense.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
DMAC got 6 years for 60?
wow who robbed AL more RUSSELL OR HIM
November 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Not buying that our big uglies are so stupid its taking them longer than expected to pick it up.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
teo is listed by todd mcshay as the #3 player in the draft and kiper has him at #2. that’s really high for a MLB. it speaks volumes about him. luckily, because he’s a MLB, he will likely slip a few spots. right to the raiders. there are also some good pass rushers so it will be tempting to take one, but teo is like getting a franchise qb for ur defense.
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What scheme do they run?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Russel. In a landslide.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
I think we need a true DT in this offseason/Draft because:
A) Houston is too small to be an NFL DT in a 4-3 system
B) A Big in the middle gives our defense more options potentially some 3-4 looks
C) Our Run defense while improving is going to get worse as our current DTs get older and older (See Bucanero game)
D) Our current DTs are old
E) A strong DT can extremely help our LB corp get better
November 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Reggie should do a “State of the Raiders” address and answer to why this “New Era of Excellence” has failed so miserbally.
We’re still the same old embarrassment we have always been.
Reggie and DA haven’t fixed squat.
Less penalties? Who gives a red rats rip. So freaking what.
I’m sick of trying to dissect this thing and analyize it. It’s pointless.
We are the worst team in football.
Congratulations Reggie.
Great job.
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I don’t even credit DA for less penalties, in the past we picked up a ton of ticky-tack and downright phantom penalties. Every new coach talked up reducing penalties, but the zebes had a different plan in mind.
Let’s face it: the reason the penalties are down is this is our first full season without Al Davis.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Just over half the season left. It’s not even thanks giving yet and it’s over.
Wonderful.
And now we are losing in humiliating, embarrassing fashion.
55-20? Really? Seriously? With the season on the line?
NEW ERA OF EXCELLENCE.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
We have a better chance of winning if round off the Lazy
Bad Tackling players- Shame on you!
RETURN YOU SEASON MONEY TO MR.DAVIS AND OAKLAND! !
TICKET BOOTH IS CLOSE UNTIL NEXT SEASON!
Thankyou!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Hey Purvis
How’s the weather up there in God’s country?
Cold as heck in Mid Cal.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Mumbles thinks he playing his way into some top draft picks, but in reality, these picks are a high risk situation, that may not ever produce the kind of results he’s after.
So the fans have to endure ridiculous defeats and the shame of being a fan of this disaster.
Reggie needs to get off his double wide backside and get this corrected or he should be take out like the trash…
November 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Some heads are gonna roll with and Knapp’s big head being the first and Kelly’s close second.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Russel. In a landslide.
—–
HAHAHAHAHA
Probably the biggest thief ever
November 11th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Gdog Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
nycraider Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
taiwan Jones like DVD is overated by some in this blog and isnt worth complaining about. did you see him have adams fumble slip through his hands? taiwan is fast but thats it. hes had as many fumbles or muffs as any other player and he hasnt been on the field.
>>>>
So Stewart was the answer?
I’d like to see it with my own eyes before I write him off. Cork seems to think he is an electrifying player… what makes you think he isn’t? Do you watch the practices? Because it isn’t in actual games… they don’t let him play.
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guess you have the tolerance for his muffs or fumbles. i saw enough in the sd game with the drop of the opening kickoff and reverse , combined with how he fumbled the pass from lechler. electrifying player? really? guess your one of those guys who if a guy runs fast, has a raider uniform on, he must be good.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
I think we need a true DT in this offseason/Draft because:
A) Houston is too small to be an NFL DT in a 4-3 system
B) A Big in the middle gives our defense more options potentially some 3-4 looks
C) Our Run defense while improving is going to get worse as our current DTs get older and older (See Bucanero game)
D) Our current DTs are old
E) A strong DT can extremely help our LB corp get better
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I doubt he’ll be there when we pick unless we trash the rest of the season and pick #1 or #2:
*Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State 6-3 320
November 11th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I didn’t think these guys could go backwards so quickly, but wow. They’ve done it. Allen looks clueless on the sidelines each time something slightly controversial happens on the field. Hiring a rookie coach with a roster going through transition is a recipe for disaster. As much as hardly anyone wants to hear it, I really wish Mark Davis could have talked Gruden into coming back to coach this team. If Allen is in fact Reggie’s man, he couldn’t have made a bigger mistake, all things considered.
The defense just does not have the talent, the offensive line personnel is lacking as is the coaching, Greg Knapp’s play calling is terrible as is evidenced by how well the offense moves when Palmer is allowed to run the no-huddle, the personnel moves seem to be made with a focus on recreating the team and tearing down what little success was built in the last two seasons.
Today, I woke up with no hope for this game. Turns out I was right. It’s really hard to even watch football at all these days, I’ve started working on projects in the garage and try to avoid any media about the Raiders on Sundays to keep my blood pressure down. But I love this team too much to give up on them, and somehow I watch with the fascination of watching an impending train wreck.
Today delivered. It was embarrassing, but more embarrassing is how nonchalant some players are (in particular, Tommy Kelly). We really need to move the players on that are just going through the motions. No intensity, no anger, just… acceptance.
Ridiculous.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
WE HATE BAD LAZY STUPID PLAYERS AND COACHES LIKE YOU !
YOU can’t play with them.
YOU can’t win with them.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
if clowney from SC comes out early and we have a shot to get him , he is the de playmaker we need..
November 11th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Yes, the season is over already.Hue gave us hope leading up to game 16. Taking data from the games we played the Raiders win 1 to 2 more games and don’t expect the coaching staff to be of much help in those wins.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
There was, however, another closely tracked number which perhaps is far more indicative of the economic “growth” in the past 4 years, which certainly had a delayed release. The number of course is that showing how many Americans are on foodstamps, and usually is released at the end of the month, or the first day or two of the next month. This time the USDA delayed its release nine days past the semi-official deadline, far past the election, and until Friday night to report August foodstamp data. One glance at the number reveals why: at 47.1 million, this was not only a new all time record, but the monthly increase of 420,947 from July was the biggest monthly increase in one year. ========= WAY TO GO YOU KENYAN POS !!!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Who should get fired?
Position coaches?
Hoffman?
Tarver?
Knapp?
DA?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
793.DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Just over half the season left. It’s not even thanks giving yet and it’s over.
Wonderful.
And now we are losing in humiliating, embarrassing fashion.
55-20? Really? Seriously? With the season on the line?
NEW ERA OF EXCELLENCE.
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A few things we can look forward to next year
If DA stays Raiders will get a new OC
McClain, Seymour, Kelly should be gone
Cap space for FA might be positive
Draft picks, but no #2
Could get comp picks for Bush and soup
Not sure about the extra #7 pick for Murphy (woo hoo)
And as an added bonus, if the Raiders go 4-12 they could get the #1 pick.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
775.dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
joselio hanson was an idiot. talking smack about one pass defensed. then harbaugh rubs it in our face with the fake kick, while having a huge lead. ===== HANSON = ANOTHER BRAINLESS BABOON…WHY THE RAIDERS SUCK
November 11th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS SALARIES for 2013 season
FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST
______________________________________
1.Carson Palmer – 13M in 13 , 15M in 14 (restructure)
2.DHB – 7.7 in 13 FA in 14 , (Restructure)
3.Rich SEy – 7.5 in 13 7.5 in 14 (cut)
4.Tommy Kelly93 – 6.5 in 13 , 7 in 14 (Cut)
5.Tyvon B33 – 6 in 13 , 3 in 14 (kept)
6.DMAC20 – 5.85 in 13 FA in 14 (traded)
7.M Briesel – 4.3 in 13 (restructured/cut)
8.Rolando Mcclain 4M in 13 (traded/cut)
9.M Huff 4 in 13 (kept)
10. Seabass – 3.8 (extended with cap relief)
11. A curry 3 in 13 (Cut)
November 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Omoran Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
WE HATE BAD LAZY STUPID PLAYERS AND COACHES LIKE YOU !
YOU can’t play with them.
YOU can’t win with them.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Are you Arab?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
what doesnt dmoore return punts..i get the injury issue but adams is a nightmare
November 11th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Who should get fired?
Position coaches?
Hoffman?
Tarver?
Knapp?
DA?
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Hoffman – Definitely
Knapp – Definitely
Pollack – Definitely
Tarver – No, want to see what he can do with players
DA – Only if we can get a big name coach like Mike Holmgren
November 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
LOL! Oh yes…”A New Era of Excellence”..don’t see that on the Raiders website….
Oh well, at least the Lakers have put 2 good games back-to-back although they weren’t playing the best competition.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Omoran Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
WE HATE BAD LAZY STUPID PLAYERS AND COACHES LIKE YOU !
YOU can’t play with them.
YOU can’t win with them.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Are you Arab?
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he’s amy in charge
November 11th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Our team always losing or playing from behind.
We can’t never say Oakland is 34- 0 in the 1rst Qt noooo!
WE HAVE TO SETTLE FOR THE STUPID 3-0 FIELD GOAL.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Tarver – No, want to see what he can do with players
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I liked Tarver, but this defense is getting worse. 97 points in 2 weeks? I know we lack talent, but damn. 97 points?!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
When i think of the Raiders from the last 10 years Robert Gallery and Tommy Kelly comes to mind first even though Rusell was a bigger bust, weird isn’t it.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
When asked about steelers game next week flaco smirked and politically said he suspects his receivers. Won’t be that open on the deep sets
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Time to listen to some Gordon Lightfoot and forget about this day.
Keep on trukin
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
This team has to let half the team go, first of all Knapp and the ZBS has to go. Next year I would keep the QB and RB intact-on the Oline keep Wiz, Berg, Veldheer, draft a o lineman in the 3rd or 4th.
Keep the TE position intact, keep the WR core and try to add Dwayne Bowe.
On D Keep Sho, sign Bryant,Houston, and sign Osi
Keep Wheeler, Burris, Draft Teo
Keep Huff, Branch, Draft CB’s with the 3rd, 5th
November 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
If DA can not reach .500 why should he stay? What would he have earned that makes him permanent? The Raiders need coaches that makes progress and not keep a coach just because.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Mumbles thinks he playing his way into some top draft picks, but in reality, these picks are a high risk situation, that may not ever produce the kind of results he’s after.
So the fans have to endure ridiculous defeats and the shame of being a fan of this disaster.
Reggie needs to get off his double wide backside and get this corrected or he should be take out like the trash…
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I like your takes Van Heathen. You’re passionate about this org and you’re sick of the b.s.
You touched on something…”enbarrassment of being a fan”.
At least give us a team we can be proud of, or how about one we don’t have to endure being laughed at for supporting.
Is that too much too ask? Really. C’mon.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I don’t think he is Bob.
What’s up Bob?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Mark said this was playoff caliber team when they fired Hue…Mike Haynes said Shreg told him we are a playoff team…Time for his fatass to do something.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
IU hate to say I told y’all so! When Mark hired a loser like Spuds, this team woild be in the basement minor error KC is now. As long as the regime is in on the field we will continue to lose! Again this time in happened in my own backyard! Saw parts of the game with my son playing in the band for the Ravens. Ravens banged up on defense and this team with Crybaby Palmer couldn’t move the ball effectively. Even with DHB here in the state where he played was ineffectived. Question? At least last season this team playrd better with JCampbell and HueJax. Jettison Redskins west and bring back our Beloved Raiders with 8-8 and not the 3-7 team on the field! Fired the team except for Janitor in the closet with that leg! Bring Gruden, Jackson and any other regime without Spuds and the current coaching disaster!!!!!! Go last years Raiders!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Tarver – No, want to see what he can do with players
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I liked Tarver, but this defense is getting worse. 97 points in 2 weeks? I know we lack talent, but damn. 97 points?!
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I will give him 1 more year, maybe the personal is not the right fit for this team
November 11th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Raiders for life Says: Hey Purvis
How’s the weather up there in God’s country?
Cold as heck in Mid Cal.====================
You see that jet stream/ low front? Dipped all the way to Cabo! Mid twenties last night. Had to run around getting all the drinkers and faucets dripping to avoid burst pipes. It’s moving on out quickly,though. Besides, I’m in the foothills at 3000 feet, right next door to God’s country. I can see it from my deck.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Raider O Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Tarver – No, want to see what he can do with players
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I liked Tarver, but this defense is getting worse. 97 points in 2 weeks? I know we lack talent, but damn. 97 points?!
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Tarver is tasked with mission impossible right now. Seymour is in semi-retirement, the defensive backfield is totally decimated, we’ve got McCheese in the middle and a brand new kid at OLB. Is there any wonder we can’t stop anyone? On top of that they are overworked because the offense can’t muster constant drives due to Knapp’s lame offensive scheme. Now add the absolute worst special team and is there any reason that most are not seeing shrinks by now?
No, I think Tarver is brand new and doesn’t have the tools or leadership to do a good job. He has a creative mind and I just have a feeling he might be of value if he has a chance.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RAIDERNATION IS :- FU#KING TIRE OF THE 3-0 FIELD GOAL UNIT .
LOOK GUYS IF WE CAN DRIVE IT TO THE GOAL LINE AND DON’T SCORE , THEN STICK YOUR FINGER IN YOUR A$$ AND SMELL IT!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Should have read:
No, I think Tarver is brand new and doesn’t have the tools or leadership around him to do a good job now. He has a creative mind and I just have a feeling he might be of value if he has a chance.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Convert to 3-4 permanent, Houston and Shaugnessy should work with Bryant in at NT
Draft Jarvis Jones , and sign another outside rusher to rush the passer (Shaun Phillips or Connor Barwin)
November 11th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Is Checkwa still on the PS? Of all our recent CB hirings I’ve always thought he had the best potential.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I really don’t know if Dmac will ever be back to explosive plays of a year ago. Either he has not fully healed after last year’s injury or Knapp’s versions of the Zone Blocking and Play-calling have hampered him completely. Its sad that once he got going against KC he got injured in the next game and then he’s out. He might even be out of the league next season unless he drastically turns this season around.
I don’t see an NFL team paying him millions of dollars when he has never had an injury-free season, his lateral movement is not there, and his catching ability is sub-par. Maybe a team with a power-blocking scheme could pick him up; but it is now painfully obvious that he cannot take the load of a feature back in this league.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Tarver is tasked with mission impossible right now. Seymour is in semi-retirement, the defensive backfield is totally decimated, we’ve got McCheese in the middle and a brand new kid at OLB. Is there any wonder we can’t stop anyone? On top of that they are overworked because the offense can’t muster constant drives due to Knapp’s lame offensive scheme. Now add the absolute worst special team and is there any reason that most are not seeing shrinks by now?
No, I think Tarver is brand new and doesn’t have the tools or leadership to do a good job. He has a creative mind and I just have a feeling he might be of value if he has a chance.
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This is the NFL… and I don’t care what players you have on the field on defense, no well coached team gives up 97 points in two games.
Tarver and DA deserve plenty of blame here. No way do they deserve to be fired anytime soon though.
OTOH, Knapp is a different story. This dog don’t hunt.
And wouldn’t it be Knapps call on who is in or out of the game? As in anybody but Taiwan?
November 11th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
It probably won’t, but I want something to happen. Something. ANYTHING.
Just something that shows the owner, gm and/or coaches or players give a s.chytt about us.
I want a sign…a declaration….SOMETHING that suggests this disaster is gonna get better.
November 11th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Maybe we just need to turn Curry loose on Knapp. Sic him #51. Chew him a new hole or two.
Curry = 2 plays, 2 15yd PF’s. BRILLIANT!
November 11th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Here are some players we may consider signing if we move to 3-4
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Randy Starks Miami can play both DT and NT
Glen DOrsey KC DE
Terrence Knighton jax NT
November 11th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says: I will give him 1 more year, maybe the personal is not the right fit for this team==============
I thought the personnel were this team. Sorry, Mc20, couldn’t help myself.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
raidertalk Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
I really don’t know if Dmac will ever be back to explosive plays of a year ago. Either he has not fully healed after last year’s injury or Knapp’s versions of the Zone Blocking and Play-calling have hampered him completely. Its sad that once he got going against KC he got injured in the next game and then he’s out. He might even be out of the league next season unless he drastically turns this season around.
I don’t see an NFL team paying him millions of dollars when he has never had an injury-free season, his lateral movement is not there, and his catching ability is sub-par. Maybe a team with a power-blocking scheme could pick him up; but it is now painfully obvious that he cannot take the load of a feature back in this league.
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I hope he is healthy, we want some sucker to give up a high pick for him
November 11th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
2romes Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
If DA can not reach .500 why should he stay? What would he have earned that makes him permanent? The Raiders need coaches that makes progress and not keep a coach just because.
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Because the coaching carousel has ended. At least I hope.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says: I will give him 1 more year, maybe the personal is not the right fit for this team==============
I thought the personnel were this team. Sorry, Mc20, couldn’t help myself
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Sorry meant Scheme , he’s trying to utilize, Multiple scheme needs guys who can do a lot of things, we don’t even had players who are good in 1 position
November 11th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
ron69 Says: When i think of the Raiders from the last 10 years Robert Gallery and Tommy Kelly comes to mind first even though Rusell was a bigger bust, weird isn’t it.===
Understandable mental block.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
have**&&
November 11th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Well, we have about 6 months to talk about who we might draft in April 2013.
Real nice we’re at this point only 9 games into the 2012 season.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Whut up beyotches!
Got their asses handed to ‘em again. It’s clear the Raiders are not comfortable with their smelf.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Will DMAC play next week?
Who cares…?
7 more games of humiliation and embarrassment to look foward to.
Lovely.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Don’t be so down guys , we can pull it off against Saints
last year TB lost 48-3 to SF in week 5 and went on to beat the Saints in week 6 26-20
Last week Tennessee lost 51-20 to Chicago at home and they went to Miami this week and won 37-3
November 11th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Can’t understand how you hire someone with a specific expertise, yet when he gets on the job, that area of expertise isn’t improved and production actually drops off…seems like a bad hire and should not have any job security…
But of course, the guy who hired I’m cold be on the chopping block too after such a dismal performance by he new employee…
November 11th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
I noticed that they haven’t posted any post game video pressers. I guess the are all struck with a loss for words.
It would really be nice to see something different from the old company line. Maybe a Dennis Greene type rant might give us an indication that someone really cares and gives a schit.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Big week to week turnarounds happen all the times
Keys to victory against saints
1. OL pass protection No false starts, no holding,
2. Knapp not getting greedy after couple of plays worked and keep dialing up plays the saints didn’t see before
3. Run game got to take some pressure off passing game
On D we need to
1. it all starts with pressure, we need to pressure Drew Brees as much as possible and collapse the pocket around him , keep hands up to tip passes that can turn into INts returned for TD’s
2. keeping the plays in front of them , no big plays by the saints
3. Win to battle
November 11th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
There are some that live in a Raiderwonderland. The Raiderwonderland would provide them a blissful world of winning only with a new regime and total makeover of the ORG. They felt the stages of dedicated work through the existing staff was futile. Now the dreamers have awakened acknowledging hard working staff and players inhand is not a luxury but a necessity for a winning program. The nightmare of inept players and inept staff have been created. Moral to the story is progress trumps wishful thinking.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I’m out, don’t fret over this game , we got no talent on this team , Reg and team need to bring in talented players next year and keep chopping the dead weight, Night nation
November 11th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
McFadden 20 you are delusional. Being a great fan is one thing but recognizing reality is another. They only thing this team could beat is their meat. And, they’d probably screw that up too.
You’ve been chasing too many trolls all day. It’s affecting your sensibilities.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
The Raiders will hold Drew Brees to the points the day I sh8t cuff links
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Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Last week Tennessee lost 51-20 to Chicago at home and they went to Miami this week and won 37-3
November 11th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
last year TB lost 48-3 to SF in week 5 and went on to beat the Saints in week 6 26-20
Last week Tennessee lost 51-20 to Chicago at home and they went to Miami this week and won 37-3===========
Hey, back in the day, we went 3 straight games in the middle of the season scoring 0 points. 3 straight shut outs. Wild card and Superbowl champs. I never say never until the math does.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
*three
November 11th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Realistic 6 new starters in 2013 that should make this team better
1.- 1round: OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, move Burris to the inside
2.- 3round: FS Matt Elam keep Bartell and Huff at corners say goodbye to the awful Giordiano.
3.- OG Tony Bergstrom, replace the expensive and ineffective Brisel
4.- FA OT Sebastian Volmer, he would look nice in silver and black
5.- FA DT Alan Branch, an upgrade over Kelly he souldn’t be too expensive
6.- FA CB Sam Shields, he would start and send Bartell to nickel
Keep Wheeler Shonassy, Bryant Carter cut Kelly Seymour Mclain Brisel let go Lechler Spencer.
I think we might have some play off hopes with this team.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Too painful to chime in.
All I can say, is that people shouldn’t trust their “gut” on hires, but look who gets products.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
I’m not saying we will make the playoffs or anything , all I’m saying is Big week to week turnarounds happen all the times..
Titans got whooped by Bears at home last week 51-20
Titans went into Miami and whooped them 37-3
I’m not guaranteeing anything, just throwing that out there for guys who have zero confidence for next week
November 11th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
November 11th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
last year TB lost 48-3 to SF in week 5 and went on to beat the Saints in week 6 26-20
Last week Tennessee lost 51-20 to Chicago at home and they went to Miami this week and won 37-3===========
Hey, back in the day, we went 3 straight games in the middle of the season scoring 0 points. 3 straight shut outs. Wild card and Superbowl champs. I never say never until the math does.
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Exactly man , any game can be won , if a team brings their A game , not likely to happen though since i can’t see how this team will put pressure on D Brees,
but i won’t totally leave that out of an equation just because we got whooped this week
November 11th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
ron69 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Realistic 6 new starters in 2013 that should make this team better
1.- 1round: OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, move Burris to the inside
2.- 3round: FS Matt Elam keep Bartell and Huff at corners say goodbye to the awful Giordiano.
3.- OG Tony Bergstrom, replace the expensive and ineffective Brisel
4.- FA OT Sebastian Volmer, he would look nice in silver and black
5.- FA DT Alan Branch, an upgrade over Kelly he souldn’t be too expensive
6.- FA CB Sam Shields, he would start and send Bartell to nickel
Keep Wheeler Shonassy, Bryant Carter cut Kelly Seymour Mclain Brisel let go Lechler Spencer.
I think we might have some play off hopes with this team.
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I like Jarvis Jones, but that only works if we’re going to be 3-4 full time
November 11th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
It not like the Raiders did not have anything to bulid on. They did it was the running game but Reggie, DA, and Knapp thought their system was better. That only left the Raiders barer exposing to the to more weakness as games were played.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says: Exactly man , any game can be won , if a team brings their A game , not likely to happen though since i can’t see how this team will put pressure on D Brees,==================================================
Seymour, Kelly,and Houston all good at getting their hands up.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Ron69,
Nobody cares. Mark doesn’t care, Reggie doesn’t care…the players sure as hell don’t care and the fans will show how much they don’t care on Sunday when barely 40k show up at the oco to watch us get our azzes handed to us by Drew Brees.
I still care though.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
I’m not saying we will make the playoffs or anything , all I’m saying is Big week to week turnarounds happen all the times..
Titans got whooped by Bears at home last week 51-20
Titans went into Miami and whooped them 37-3
I’m not guaranteeing anything, just throwing that out there for guys who have zero confidence for next week
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You know that’s right.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I like Jarvis Jones, but that only works if we’re going to be 3-4 full time
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We’ll use Jones the way Denver plays Miller or the way Wimbley played last year, rush the passer in passing downs and some blitz packages.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Does anybody really believe Al Davis would put up with this damn fiasco, at the end of the year heads would be rolling like marbles. This is the most embarrassed as a Raider fan that I’ve evr been because I k ow this coaching staff is flat out clueless.
November 11th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Hey, priest 51-3 AFC championship wasn’t embarrassing?
November 11th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
it is embarressing…not only is the coach clueless so is the gm…
November 11th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Again, 3 touches for Taiwan Jones today? Unacceptable.
Raidurs Coaching = T-O-T-A-L F-A-I-L-U-R-E
November 11th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
I haven’t posted here for quite some time. But after today, no bull, I wept for my Raiders. Very sad to see what they’ve become. They are being ruined and the people ruining them can’t even see it. I doubt they even care.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
873,
They don’t. At least not like we do.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
It kills me because I was in here for weeks before we knew Hue’s fate saying we absolutely had to keep him as HC in 2012. I even took a poll on the board at that time and, because there were some very vocal “fire Hue” people, I was a little surprised to see that the majority of fans were with me. Not a huge majority, maybe 60-40, but despite the disappointing finish a majority of fans were still on board with HueJackCity.
One more thing about Hue: I loved the Carson Palmer trade and still do. Carson Palmer is a great QB. All the haters can, as Steve says, kick rocks.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
palmer is a great qb…it svcks to see him try to win with krappy holding him down. All those batted passes were a direct result of the short routes being run but did krapp ever adjust? no, guy is too dumb to be a qb voach much less an oc….
November 11th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Does anybody really believe Al Davis would put up with this damn fiasco, at the end of the year heads would be rolling like marbles. This is the most embarrassed as a Raider fan that I’ve evr been because I k ow this coaching staff is flat out clueless.
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I don’t know what’s going on.
If Mark cared Reggie would be just now leaving Mark’s office after getting a total reaming and being asked ‘what the hell is going on’?
Or…Mark is coming home from a nice meal in Palm Desert with a smile on his face and a song in his heart, knowing he’s gonna make his $$$ no matter what.
I don’t know. I don’t thnk anyone cares really.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
BTW, I actually have this gut feeling we take down New Orleans next week. I just don’t buy their hot streak and think they take a step back next week.
But then we promptly come back and lose to Cincy the following week. Though the one thing that may save us there is Palmer’s history with the Bengals. Hopefully these jokers would rally around him for that.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
My grades for today:
players: D ( not their fault coaches fail to game plan )
HC: F
OC: F ( off the charts )
DC: F ( failed to stop the no huddle )
Special Teams: F
Week after week these coaches fail to game plan and make necessary in game adjustments. Comments by the coaches after the game is nothing more than cliches because they don’t know the difference (meaning they looked so ill prepared they didn’t know what to say).
Utter disaster. A train wreck. Clueless. Mr Davis left this team poised and ready, regardless of what some of you want to believe. Reggie was hoodwinked and DA is in over his head.
My favorite quote by DA is ‘we have to be ready for anything). How about being ready to play football, or be ready to suck it up and take it up the poop chute. You tell me.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Does anybody really believe Al Davis would put up with this damn fiasco, at the end of the year heads would be rolling like marbles. This is the most embarrassed as a Raider fan that I’ve evr been because I k ow this coaching staff is flat out clueless.
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I don’t know what’s going on.
If Mark cared Reggie would be just now leaving Mark’s office after getting a total reaming and being asked ‘what the hell is going on’?
Or…Mark is coming home from a nice meal in Palm Desert with a smile on his face and a song in his heart, knowing he’s gonna make his $$$ no matter what.
I don’t know. I don’t thnk anyone cares really.
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Yeah, I can’t imagine Mark cares all that much. Basically outsourced the decision of who was going to run “the football half” of the organization to Madden and Wolf. Held one ceremonial “interview” with Reggie and tapped out on that decision.
You think someone who put that little thought into that decision is really losing sleep over a Week 10 beatdown? I don’t.
Which is why Reggie and DA will probably be here at least 3 seasons. Unless he starts to feel it financially Mark will just not give a SHlT
November 11th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
878,
I’m with you on Hue…always have been, but i see no way in hell we beat New Orleans next week. I’m not getting caught in that trap again this week; the trap of “hope” or “optimism”.
I’m goin cynical here on out.
Sick of getting let down by this b.s.
I didn’t think we had a chance today. I was hoping beyond hope our guys would man up and get it done, but they wussed out as usual.
I’ll always root for the raiders and hope they win but i have absolutely no faith in this org or team.
They’re weak on all levels.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–week-10-winners-losers–source-expects-eagles-to-stick-with-andy-reid-despite-five-game-losing-streak.html
“Aside from getting blown out again, Oakland is facing a brutal situation with running back Darren McFadden, who was unable to play Sunday because of a sprained ankle. McFadden is expected to be back next week, but is not having anything close to the performance he had in 2010, when he averaged 5.3 yards per carry. He is set to be a free agent after the 2013 season. McFadden is averaging only 3.3 yards this season because the Raiders have primarily played a zone-blocking system that simply doesn’t work for him. Two weeks ago, McFadden, at the urging of owner Mark Davis, talked to the coaches about the situation, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. The coaches went back to a more favorable system and McFadden responded with 114 yards against Kansas City before getting hurt the next game against Tampa Bay. If the Raiders are going to maximize McFadden’s ability, they need to change the offense. If not, they would be better off trading him in the offseason.”
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“At the urging of Mark Davis” sounds like DMac went to Mark (like he used to go to Al) and was basically told “go talk to the coaches.” This means we now have a sane NFL organization. It also means we have a very unhappy running back.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
There is a way Mark might feel it other than financial: Embarrassment. I know nothing about the guy but i would think he would have just a bit of an ego.
If 30-40 k start showing up at the oco and the Raiders continue to get pummelled, you might think that would sting a bit…being seen as a joke and laughingstock…as an incompetent boob unable to fill his daddy’s shoes…a loser.
I don’t know.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
882,
I couldn’t care less about DMAC anymore and I used to be his biggest fan.
We’re gonna lose with him or without him. Who cares anymore.
Get rid of him.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–week-10-winners-losers–source-expects-eagles-to-stick-with-andy-reid-despite-five-game-losing-streak.html
“Aside from getting blown out again, Oakland is facing a brutal situation with running back Darren McFadden, who was unable to play Sunday because of a sprained ankle. McFadden is expected to be back next week, but is not having anything close to the performance he had in 2010, when he averaged 5.3 yards per carry. He is set to be a free agent after the 2013 season. McFadden is averaging only 3.3 yards this season because the Raiders have primarily played a zone-blocking system that simply doesn’t work for him. Two weeks ago, McFadden, at the urging of owner Mark Davis, talked to the coaches about the situation, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. The coaches went back to a more favorable system and McFadden responded with 114 yards against Kansas City before getting hurt the next game against Tampa Bay. If the Raiders are going to maximize McFadden’s ability, they need to change the offense. If not, they would be better off trading him in the offseason.”
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“At the urging of Mark Davis” sounds like DMac went to Mark (like he used to go to Al) and was basically told “go talk to the coaches.” This means we now have a sane NFL organization. It also means we have a very unhappy running back.
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Unless it was Mark who went to McFadden and not the other way around. That would actually give me some hope that Mark does indeed give a SHlT.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
I was one of the guys who also wanted to keep hue felt like he could do something with a real coordinator but would support any decision Organization makes , 9 games into the season we’re not sitting at where we all would have liked , but hindsight is 20/20 it’s entirely possible we could have lost as many games with Hue , D could have been the same disaster under him too, O could have slipped a little , special teams could of have been as bad, and we could have been looking for a new coach next year, so kids get over the spilled milk ,quit crying over what other games you could have played as a child, get behind the team and think about ways how we can get better ,
Starting with cutting Knapp
giving briesel, CC, Smith,and Barnes , McFadden ford walking papers on offensive side
Giving Kelly,Seymour , A Carter,McClain ,curry,Goethel,Gio,mitchel, Adams ,Francies walking papers
November 11th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Isn’t it odd that we have to wonder whether our owner gives a sh1t or not?
We’re not kidding around. We really don’t know.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I have no idea if Dennis Allen is going to be around long enough for it to make a difference, but that fake FG call by Harbaugh is one of those things you have to tag and put in a payback file.
I can tell you if I were DA, I would’ve been blitzing 8 the rest of the game and telling MM34, Wheeler and Curry to tee off on Flacco and not worry about drawing any 15 yarders.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
DMAC got 6 years for 60?
wow who robbed AL more RUSSELL OR HIM
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well, at least dmc played hard and gave us some good games. in juries derailed his career, not purple drank. but it looks like it might be up to dhb to save us from that dreaded triple bust.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
teo is listed by todd mcshay as the #3 player in the draft and kiper has him at #2. that’s really high for a MLB. it speaks volumes about him. luckily, because he’s a MLB, he will likely slip a few spots. right to the raiders. there are also some good pass rushers so it will be tempting to take one, but teo is like getting a franchise qb for ur defense.
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What scheme do they run?
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3-4.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
i highly recommend watching notre dame play usc in a couple weeks. u will see why teo is so great.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Give both Seabass and Lechler the boot too, if we want to win games , we need to get those guys outta of the locker room , who have been in too many oh no here we go again moments ,need to bring players from winning organizations , even if they are scrubs , need winning attitude every week, we can do it, starting with beast FA, and very good draft
November 11th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Ok. What’s even more worrisome is IF Mark was the one that went to DMAC first…and then urged him to talk with the coaches, it suggests Mark’s too much of a pu$$y to go to Reggie or the coaches himself and address the situation.
I don’t expect, nor do i want Mark to be like Jerry Jones, but he IS the owner of this team and if are going as far south as they appear, he needs to show some muscle.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Fangsraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
775.dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
joselio hanson was an idiot. talking smack about one pass defensed. then harbaugh rubs it in our face with the fake kick, while having a huge lead. ===== HANSON = ANOTHER BRAINLESS BABOON…WHY THE RAIDERS SUCK
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did u like cliff branch?
November 11th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I have no idea if Dennis Allen is going to be around long enough for it to make a difference, but that fake FG call by Harbaugh is one of those things you have to tag and put in a payback file.
I can tell you if I were DA, I would’ve been blitzing 8 the rest of the game and telling MM34, Wheeler and Curry to tee off on Flacco and not worry about drawing any 15 yarders.
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Oh he will remember , believe me coaches never forget that kinda sh1t, I just hope it comes down to a game in play offs and we humiliate them and run up the scoreboard on purpose
November 11th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
…that’s if we EVER get good enuff to EVER run up the score on ANYBODY.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
teo is listed by todd mcshay as the #3 player in the draft and kiper has him at #2. that’s really high for a MLB. it speaks volumes about him. luckily, because he’s a MLB, he will likely slip a few spots. right to the raiders. there are also some good pass rushers so it will be tempting to take one, but teo is like getting a franchise qb for ur defense.
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What scheme do they run?
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3-4.
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I have seen the guy play and he can do it all, I’m kinda dreaming but what would be perfect is If we trade dmac for first and get both Mantis teo and Jarvis jones with both 1st rd picks
November 11th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
i say keep seabass, but i think they’re leaning toward letting lechler go and keeping that black kid.
i can tell u one problem: having a fuking punter as a captain.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I have no idea if Dennis Allen is going to be around long enough for it to make a difference, but that fake FG call by Harbaugh is one of those things you have to tag and put in a payback file.
I can tell you if I were DA, I would’ve been blitzing 8 the rest of the game and telling MM34, Wheeler and Curry to tee off on Flacco and not worry about drawing any 15 yarders.
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Oh he will remember , believe me coaches never forget that kinda sh1t, I just hope it comes down to a game in play offs and we humiliate them and run up the scoreboard on purpose
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I would hope so. His face was pretty red with anger there for a moment. I kind of have a feeling DA wouldn’t have the balls to follow through with anything though. Or maybe that’s too harsh and he would just consider it beneath him to play that game.
I for one hope he does something about it … if he’s Raiders coach for long enough to even get the chance.
Like I said, if that’s me, I unleash the hounds on Flacco after that play. And on offense I probably run a toss sweep right at Harbaugh on the sidelines a couple of times, too. But that’s just me. I’d rather have a coach with Romo’s personality than Dennis Allen’s.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
…that’s if we EVER get good enuff to EVER run up the score on ANYBODY.
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Let’s see, how we can do that, it starts with Oc first , we need to find a smart guy to coach the guys on the offensive side, we need C,Rg,Rt ,we need #1WR, durable Rb , and with good D we might be able to get our wish
November 11th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
mcfadden20–i’m all about getting a pass rusher. and normally i would be screaming to take one at the top. but teo is a defense-changer. changes the whole mentality.
and a good pass rusher can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. or free agency.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
I fuk king officially hate ravens so much now and I hope both Harbaugh brothers never win a championship in their entire coaching career ,I thought belichick was bad , but I have never seen a fake fg like that before
November 11th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
No way do we cut Seabass. Ludicrous.
I’ve always loved Lechler but I can see where a case can be made that he’s not worth $5 mil a year or whatever and that money would be better spent elsewhere with a low-cost alternative like King taking over.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
i’ll tell u one thing. greg schiano wouldn’t have taken that fake field goal lying down.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
i’ll tell u one thing. greg schiano wouldn’t have taken that fake field goal lying down.
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No. He would not. Schiano is a very good coach.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
mcfadden20–i’m all about getting a pass rusher. and normally i would be screaming to take one at the top. but teo is a defense-changer. changes the whole mentality.
and a good pass rusher can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. or free agency.
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we don’t have 2nd , but hopefully we can acquire one some how ,even if it means trading 2014 2nd round pick for late 2nd , Dmac should be traded ,infact all INjury prone guys should be traded or released ,McFadden,ford,Taiwan,Goodson,Bartell
November 11th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Tired of same guys being injured year after year
November 11th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
maybe our coaching staff just isn’t that good. i know the players aren’t.
these are the only players left that i believe in:
palmer
veldheer
myers
ausberry
moore
dhb
streeter
goodson
reece
bilukidi
bryant
crawford
burris
wheeler
November 11th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
I hear you Mc20.
I’m an upside guy though and I’d stick with pretty much all those guys, personally.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
only players i currently think are above average:
palmer
veldheer
myers
burris
wheeler
not a big list
November 11th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
oh, i’d keep bergstrom too.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
DA is too occupied with trying to act like he “fits in” as a coach.
He has completely memorized the book on how to sound like a HC in the NFL and how to be a sportsman.
Unfortunately he hasn’t read the book on the importance of winning games.
He seems like the kind of guy who would just laf off what Harbaugh did and say “well that’s just football i’m sure he meant nothing by it”, when in fact what Harbaugh did was a direct insult and degradation of not only the team, but DA personally.
I think DA is too much of a pu$$y to even man up and acknowledge when he’s getting clowned.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I don’t wanna make any comparisons between coaches, got to give DA another year, last year was just last year with different schedule teams ,etc,etc ,we have faced like many good Qb’s this year save for KC games and Jax one , first off McFadden would have been out after 7 games ,and even if they would have managed to put more points on board , I feel like the D would have allowed it right back , I want a beast pass rushing specialist on every down and 1 that comes just for passing down situations , I can’t get over that 3nd long completion to Vjax for 66 yards , I didn’t see 1 defender any where near freeman in a obvious passing situation
November 11th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I don’t think it’s wise to tear up the entire roster. I think there’s a lot to work with.
Here are the keys, IMO:
- New coaching staff (you’ve gotta at least consider it)
- New C, RG and RT (with Wiz moving back to LG)
- A couple of legit, speed pass rushers
- Some youthful talent at CB.
- A new MLB
I don’t think you want to somehow cut 30 guys and go sifting through the trash for replacements. That’s how you end up with a team full of Brisiels.
November 11th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
yeah dennis is more of a norv turner personality so far…
November 11th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Sorry for spellings I’m on Iphone
November 11th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Is DA just gonna bend over and take it like he did this week?
Is he gonna laff it up with the Saints coaches after they hand him another humiliating loss in front 0f 30-40k at the OCO?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
yeah dennis is more of a norv turner personality so far…
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Hey how was the tie game, man you guys paid good money to those umpires
November 12th, 2012 at 12:00 am
our golden haired hero has the 3rd most passing yards in the nfl.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:01 am
10th most td’s
November 12th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Ugh, what an ugly loss. Sad thing about this is it brings out the stupid in couch potato fan. Defense is completely inept, special teams sloppy, O-line can’t block and only seems to excel at drawing penalties, yet we should blame Palmer for it all.
As Dakota says, dumbest fans in America!
November 12th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
i’ll tell u one thing. greg schiano wouldn’t have taken that fake field goal lying down.
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Good point. Sickening the way our team took it today. Some azzwipe pulls a low move like that and all hats are off with a coach that has any kind of fire. Penalties be damned. Go head hunting at that point.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Does anybody really believe Al Davis would put up with this damn fiasco, at the end of the year heads would be rolling like marbles. This is the most embarrassed as a Raider fan that I’ve evr been because I k ow this coaching staff is flat out clueless.
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No, he wouldn’t. People can say what they want about Al, but he would not put up with this. What an embarrassment. Paper bag time, folks.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Hat to say it people, but I just don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. You know when you have a good coach. When Chucky came here, we competed right away. He took a terrible team and made it competitive.
At this point, we are moving backwards. Do we finish the season 5-2 to match last year’s record? I just don’t see it. This team is getting embarrassed week in and week out. Pathetic. Bed and breakfast, anyone?
November 12th, 2012 at 12:13 am
*Hate
November 12th, 2012 at 12:14 am
“Awww shucks I’m sure Johh didn’t mean anything by it. He’s just tryin to win a football game like we are”.
“They executed on that play and we didn’t plain and simple”.
Meanwhile Harbaugh is laffing at him for being a little punk and just taking it.
That play was an insult to the team, the organization, the fans and to Dennis Allen personally.
DA just bends over and takes it.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:26 am
The more I think about the fake FG call the more it infuriates me. I’m sure it infuriated DA, too. But what did he do about it? Nothing.
If that’s me I’m sending the house to knock Flacco on his azz every play the rest of the game, scoreboard be damned at that point. I’m also instructing my QB to stick one in Harbaugh’s ear with “an errant” throw and I’m sending the Runaway Beer Truck on a few toss sweeps right into the Ravens sideline and instructing him to introduce himself to Mr. Harbaugh.
Moreso than the final score, the fact that the Raiders are now some weak-azz operation that would EVER allow something like that to be rubbed in their faces by some two-bit clown like John Harbaugh is a new low. And something DA needs to answer for.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Just read Jerry Mac’s game notes. Check this excerpt out:
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Koch, the Ravens’ punter, ran slightly to his left and went untouched into the end zone. He said he didn’t notice if the Raiders were upset.
“Not that I know of,” Koch said. “I was too busy doing high-fives and spiking the ball.”
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If you didn’t read it, you’ll be happy to know Allen and the defenders had plenty of cliche responses when asked about this blatant affront to their manhood.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:03 am
RaiderDuck Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–week-10-winners-losers–source-expects-eagles-to-stick-with-andy-reid-despite-five-game-losing-streak.html
“If the Raiders are going to maximize McFadden’s ability, they need to change the offense. If not, they would be better off trading him in the offseason.”
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McFadden won’t even get trade consideration the way his career has gone. Maybe a third rounder at most…
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 am
LAKERS HIRE MIKE D’ANTONI
MIKEY D IN THE PLACE TO BE
SWIZZLE
November 12th, 2012 at 1:20 am
I would also keep WiZ 2.0, but move him to the LG spot he was good their last year
November 12th, 2012 at 1:38 am
CODEBLACK2011 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 am
LAKERS HIRE MIKE D’ANTONI
MIKEY D IN THE PLACE TO BE
SWIZZLE
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Who’s going to play defense?
Genius. *eyes roll*
November 12th, 2012 at 1:41 am
Try Some Reality Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
i’ll tell u one thing. greg schiano wouldn’t have taken that fake field goal lying down.
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Good point. Sickening the way our team took it today. Some azzwipe pulls a low move like that and all hats are off with a coach that has any kind of fire. Penalties be damned. Go head hunting at that point.
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true, but what are the odds, some body going at the player who’d take Koch out – with twitter – then him ratting out “this coach told me to do it”
its post Bountygate. – That is old school football –
there was a time when an special teams coordinator would say “break that mother f$%ker in half, next time they punt or on the next PAT. You knock him AND the kicker into next week, or you’re gone.
Those days are long gone.
NEVER wouldve happened in the Madden, Flores or Gruden era – they knew better.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:52 am
I don’t feel hopeful at all for the Raiders this season. Yesterday’s loss was hard to take. However how are people blaming Carson Palmer? He gives it all and is a class act. Also Dennis Allen isn’t the first rookie HC to have a poor first season. We need to give our team and coaches TIME. I think if we get a solid draft, some good players in FA next season, DA and his coaches learning then we will see a much much better team. C’mon and get behind the team!
Go Raiders!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
maybe our coaching staff just isn’t that good. i know the players aren’t.
these are the only players left that i believe in:
palmer
veldheer
myers
ausberry
moore
dhb
streeter
goodson
reece
bilukidi
bryant
crawford
burris
wheeler
Dr_robert Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
only players i currently think are above average:
palmer
veldheer
myers
burris
wheeler
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who to choose from if we pick (4-7) – first round
Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St.
Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU – i think he is great BECAUSE of the defense surrounding him
Geno Smith , QB, W.Virginia – likely taken higher then we pick.
Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU – same as above
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah – didnt make a lot of plays but was constantly double teamed
Keenan Allen, WR, Cal – i think he’s cant miss, but we have other needs
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama – this might be the pick
Demontre Moore, OLB/DE, Texas A&M – only give him the edge, because Allen is a TA&M guy
if the Raiders can find away to trade and acquire an additional third (69th pick or so)
a combination of 2 of the following
Oday Boushi, OT, Virginia
Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn St.
Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
Stepfan Taylor, Rb, Stanford – runs hard
Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
Everrette Dawkins, DT, Florida St.
Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois
Rick Wagner, OT Wisconsin
Zeke Motta, FS, Notre Dame
Denard Robinson, RS, Michigan
5-6th
Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
Jeff Baca, OG, UCLA
Manase Foketi, OT, W.Texas A&M
Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida St.
Melvin White, CB,
November 12th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Notes and observations from Raiders-Ravens game Eight days ago, the Raiders were within striking distance of the AFC West lead. Today, they are three games behind the pace-setting Denver Broncos and one more loss away from shifting their thoughts to 2013. The quick turn of events illustrates just … [...]
November 12th, 2012 at 3:27 am
933… Most of the people who come in here to slam Palmer are only here to cause friction.. They know Palmer is the one spot on the team that the majority of us support and they know he has a high character ..and plays at a high level.. And he’s a team leader… So that’s where they attack….they’re agenda isn’t football..
November 12th, 2012 at 4:04 am
sucks to know that if McFadden & Seymour were healthy, we would have beaten the Ravens yesterday …
get well soon fellas!
November 12th, 2012 at 4:09 am
The Fake Fg?… It’s a sign of the way our team has lost respect….teams are licking their Chops to play the Raiders…. They sit across the field and laugh at the Raiders…..and in today’s NFL coachs can’t openly retaliate … I’d hope Allen made a mental note and if the situation ever arises he’d take some sort of legal play aginst the Ravens down the road… But make no mistake.., the Raiders are not respected… A sad state …
November 12th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Attn: Fingers
Carson Palmer has 25 INT’s and 7 fumbles (4 lost) in his 18 starts with the Raiders …
you guys don’t think that contributes to losing football games?
not saying it’s ALL his fault, but he should get a share of blame just like everyone else imo
November 12th, 2012 at 4:15 am
Palmer is gonna throw for a bunch of yards & TD’s every year
He’s also gonna have a bunch of turnovers and lose a bunch of games
thats what happened in Cincy. thats whats happening here
November 12th, 2012 at 4:19 am
Rockstar… Sure… He deserves blame and credit… My post was about why some people only come in here to slam anything Raiders… Palmers accountable… Don’t disagree ..
November 12th, 2012 at 4:20 am
The Fake Fg?… It’s a sign of the way our team has lost respect….teams are licking their Chops to play the Raiders
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yeah I know
coaches cook up plays and think if they’re ever up by a large margin they’ll try them in a game. what have they got to lose?
of course, if a Raiders defender would have blown up Sam Koch and ended his season the Ravens would think twice about ever trying that crap again (even in a blowout win)
November 12th, 2012 at 4:21 am
later bro. time to get ready 4 work
November 12th, 2012 at 4:23 am
I take I to account that palmers always playing from behind … The defense can’t make a stop and his WRs are raw… But like I said… I don’t disagree that Palmer has some blame… He’s a gun slinger on a poor team… So theirs be gonna be Ints and mistakes… Don’t disagree at all….
November 12th, 2012 at 4:25 am
DA says nothing but clichés there is no substance to the man, his only cliche I agree with
Is “next man up” except this time it’s the coaches. Baltimore hasn’t crushed any team like that… Just this group.
And lest we lose sight;
defensive tackle Haloti Ngata sat out the game with a bruised shoulder, cornerback Jimmy Smith stayed on the sideline with a groin injury. Baltimore was already without injured linebacker Ray Lewis and cornerback Lardarius Webb.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Marcus… Agree… It’s just more proof that the Raiders are low on talent… This teams terrible… I didn’t realize how bad they really are … During the offseason I thought we had a team that would compete … I thought we had a fair number of good players… We don’t… Their are some good players but not enough to make a difference … I have come to terms with ” it’s a rebuilding ” year… And the staff?… So far I’m not impressed …
November 12th, 2012 at 4:51 am
JB Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
BRISEL HAS KNAPP’S FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER THAT DEAL
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Brisiel played G Knapp and Polack with the Texans. They had the #2 running game in the NFL. Brisiel played against the Raiders last year with a broken leg. Everyone thought this was a great signing when Reggie picked him up. Not sure what the hell happened to him.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:58 am
Unless it was Mark who went to McFadden and not the other way around. That would actually give me some hope that Mark does indeed give a SHlT.
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Agree
November 12th, 2012 at 4:59 am
Chris In NY Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I have no idea if Dennis Allen is going to be around long enough for it to make a difference, but that fake FG call by Harbaugh is one of those things you have to tag and put in a payback file.
I can tell you if I were DA, I would’ve been blitzing 8 the rest of the game and telling MM34, Wheeler and Curry to tee off on Flacco and not worry about drawing any 15 yarders.
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Yup…A man would have done something about it.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:59 am
Albert… Yep… Their are a lot of players on this team that I’m wondering ” what the F happened ..players are thought would be stars are turning into bust….
November 12th, 2012 at 5:15 am
In forums and blogs around the world, not just the nation, the Raiders are getting mocked bad.
This defeat must be addressed immediately by Reggie, changes must be made inside the coaching staff.
November 12th, 2012 at 5:16 am
I bet Reggie wishes the trade deadline was this week.
November 12th, 2012 at 5:24 am
Has any team ever given up 40+ points 3 weeks in a row?
November 12th, 2012 at 5:29 am
laker fans not sure dantoni is the right move. especially for kobe and howard.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Does anybody really believe Al Davis would put up with this damn fiasco, at the end of the year heads would be rolling like marbles.
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Well in 2008, we got embarressed in Baltimore, not as bad of a score but embarressed.
And it was part of a 4 game stretch where we went 0-4 and averaged 7 points a game, to get to 2-8.
And………we brought back almost the entire roster, the HC and QB.
So yes, Al DID put up with this type of fiasco.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:12 am
THE SAD THING IS,THE RAVENS FAKE FIELD GOAL WORKED WITH EASE.SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT HOW BAD THE TEAM SUX,NOT THE LACK OF “RETALIATION” FROM THE STAFF
November 12th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Mike diantoni?
Better thanbrown, but this was another bad coaching call by Jim buss. I can’t wait to watch Howard playing 15 feet from the basket and metta jacking up shots on the fast break and an absolute lack of defense.
Smh.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Priest is a joke. I can’t believe he is still touting Al Davis’ management as the way to run an NFL team.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Someone last week,can’t remmember who,was asking what to put on a sign when they went to the game this weekend.
The phone number to the local samaritans would be a good idea.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:23 am
The fake FG ? I hope the football Gods fk up Harbaugh.Had a lot of respect before the game – not now.A classless act.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:29 am
The only hope for this weekend is that Brees get’s so excited at the thought of playing against the Raiders that he get’s giddy,light-headed,hyperventilates and is kept in hospital as a precaution and is heavily medicated.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:30 am
akota Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Mike diantoni?
Better thanbrown, but this was another bad coaching call by Jim buss. I can’t wait to watch Howard playing 15 feet from the basket and metta jacking up shots on the fast break and an absolute lack of defense.
Smh.
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Except Phil Jackson wanted personnel power & he shouldn’t be granted that…I think the team will buy into D’Antoni more than Brown…I personally would have hired Shaw or Bryan Scott before Brown anyway.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:30 am
WHAT ABOUT THE DEFENDER DANCING LIKE HE HAD JUST WON THE SUPER BOWL ON THE PLAY B4 DEFENDING BOLDIN..WITH THE TEAM DOWN BY 4 TD’S..TALK ABOUT CLASSLESS..
November 12th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Didn’t see all the game Dirt-lot – a few problems on this end.If that did happen then it’s stupid as well as classless.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Priesttj12 Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Does anybody really believe Al Davis would put up with this damn fiasco, at the end of the year heads would be rolling like marbles.
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Well in 2008, we got embarressed in Baltimore, not as bad of a score but embarressed.
And it was part of a 4 game stretch where we went 0-4 and averaged 7 points a game, to get to 2-8.
And………we brought back almost the entire roster, the HC and QB.
So yes, Al DID put up with this type of fiasco.
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The HC was an interim HC…The HC went 3-4 down the stretch, won in Denver forcing Shannahan’s removal & even knocked out a team on their home field who had to win that game in order to make the playoffs & more importantly have the head coach keep his job. The QB was a #1 overall draft pick the year before so OBVIOUSLY he was gonna get another year, yet that that same QB was cut faster than ANY other #1 overall pick in NFL history.
What was the name of that OC that was relieved of his duties that year?
November 12th, 2012 at 6:39 am
GOOD DAY NEILB.CANT EVEN REMEMBER WHO IT WAS,BUT I HAD TO WALK OUTSIDE FOR SOME AIR AFTER THAT..
November 12th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Rip la lakers. It was fun while it lasted.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:41 am
It’s been a fiasco since SB37 finished.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:42 am
The HC was an interim HC…The HC went 3-4 down the stretch, won in Denver forcing Shannahan’s removal & even knocked out a team on their home field who had to win that game in order to make the playoffs & more importantly have the head coach keep his job.
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So your telling me that a 2-8 team can still play inspired ball down the stretch?
I will look for that this season as well.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Morning Dirt-lot.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:44 am
CANT EVEN REMEMBER WHO IT WAS
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It was Joselio Hanson, who had been having a little back and forth with Boldin all game.
Even worse, he was THIS close to getting a taunting penalty for standing over him, and the only reason he didn’t is because the ref probably felt sorry for us.
But yeah, a taunting penalty on a 3rd down, down by 20+ points would have been awesome!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 6:44 am
HardbuttI was giddy and decided that was a good time to drop the secret play he was saving for when they really needed it.
I will be rooting against both hardbutt brothers from now on. HardbuttII looks like he about to have a mental breakdown at all times. Something is not right upstairs
gobble gobble gobble
November 12th, 2012 at 6:47 am
After the fake FG, someone should have went after the kicker on the kickoff.
Nothing overly dirty, just a physical tough block immediately right after the kickoff.
The kicker wants to be a football player, let him play football.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:48 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/11/12/week-10/index.html#ixzz2C1IBC6z6
From Peter King’s MMQB column today. Shanarat: Classy until the end.
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And this from the feud between the late Al Davis — who fired Mike Shanahan as coach of the Raiders after only 20 games, and balked at paying him the $250,000 remaining on his contract:
Prior to a Raiders-Niners game in 1994, when Shanahan was San Francisco’s offensive coordinator, Shanahan admitted directing Steve Young to throw a football at Davis on the field during pregame warmups. Davis had wandered to the 49ers side of the field during warmups to check the team out. Players were complaining to Shanahan about it. Myers got Shanahan, now the Washington coach, to tell him the story inside his Redskins office recently.
Writes Myers:
“Guys, we’ll win the game, don’t worry about it. Don’t let him bother you,” Shanahan said.
The end of the 49ers’ pregame drill took them back to their own 5-yard line. Davis was standing 35 yards away. “Hey, get him out of there,” the players said to Shanahan. Shanahan was pissed at Davis for disrupting his pregame routine. And surely he was still pissed at him for not paying him the $250,000. “Now I started thinking. Okay, so we got one more play left,” Shanahan said.
Shanahan is telling this story seated behind his desk at Redskins Park. It’s a quiet spring day, but suddenly he’s animated. On the sideline, Shanahan’s face gets red, and it looks like the veins are about to pop out of his neck when he gets mad. Off the field, you rarely see his emotional side. But he had no use for Davis. Davis had embarrassed him by firing him almost without giving him a chance, and during that pregame Shanahan wanted to put a scare into his nemesis. Shanahan came up with the idea of how to send Davis back to his side of the field and needed one of his quarterbacks to be his accomplice. Young said he was more than happy to oblige.
“Throw a go route,” Shanahan told Young. “If you happen to hit that guy in the white outfit with the ball, you won’t make me mad.” The receiver was Jerry Rice. He ran the go route. Shanahan didn’t really want to drill Davis. But if it happened, maybe he would never stand on the 49ers’ side of the field again. Of course, if he hit Davis, Shanahan would never get his $250,000. Young dropped back to pass. He threw the ball in Davis’ direction. Rice, whom Shanahan did not bring into the loop on this little bit of mischief, was running downfield, looking up for the ball. He was not looking at Davis. He didn’t see Davis. Shanahan saw the ball. He saw the receiver. He saw Davis. All three were about to occupy the same spot. Shanahan thought Davis saw the ball coming. He did not.
“Oh, my God,” Shanahan said. “I wanted to scare him. I didn’t want to kill him.” The ball and the receiver were closing in on Davis. “Al realizes that the ball and everybody is coming at him about five yards before there is going to be contact,” Shanahan said. “I think he’s going to be run over. And he dives; he actually dives out of the way. Well, half of our players see what happens, and they are all laughing.” Young drilled Davis in the leg.
It was not surprising that he found his target. Young completed 64.3 percent of his passes in his career. “Ten years after this happened, I was walking out of a stadium on a Monday night, and Al came up to me,” Young said. “He told me that he knew it was me.” Young told Davis that he was ashamed of himself, more so than with anything else he had ever done. He then sent him a letter of apology.
Shanahan is so fired up that he gets out of his seat to finish the story. He loves this story. It was revenge. He explains in great detail Davis diving on the grass at Candlestick Park, getting to his feet, his hair falling down in front of his face. Davis stared him down from 35 yards away and gave him the middle finger.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Cut Hanson and re-sign Lee.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:51 am
D’Antoni?!?! WTF
This weekend takes the cake for worst so far this year.
D’Antoni is horrible. What a terrible hire. Has Jim Buss been consulting with Reggie? Can’t believe PJ is not the coach right now. Good luck with that.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:53 am
The Lakers are too old to run up and down the floor under a D’Antoni system. This is going to be an unmitigated disaster. Lakers fans will be missing Mike Brown before long.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Well, yesterday should be glaring proof of what I have been saying for 10 years. We can not compete with good offensive lines. PERIOD. We saw the same thing against the Steelers. We can not pressure with four.
Please do not be fooled by the rush stats. Baltimore simply thought that it was easier to put the game away quickly with the pass. They could have run for 200 if they focused on it.
Our Dline is the biggest reclamation project Reggie needs to address in this draft.
We have some other issues to be sure but a strong Dline makes much of our existing defensive roster better.
My take on the incumbents:
Seymour will be not be on the team next year. Horrible value relative to contract. Terrible trade.
Bilukidi-Cut
Carter-Cut
Bryant-reserve
Kelly-reserve
Houston-start
Shaugnessy-Cut
Tollefson-reserve
Crawford-Cut
We must draft an impact starting DT with our number one pick. Our next pick will be a DE.
Too many guys on our Dline can not compete against good Olines. They completely disappear.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Shanahan is nothing as a coach.Elway won those rings.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:54 am
2006 was the last time a raider had 10+ sacks in a season..sad but true
November 12th, 2012 at 6:56 am
POST-974,SO SHANNAHAN INSTRUCTS A PLAYER TO THROW AT AN OLD MAN AND IS OK WITH THAT…HE STILL DOSE NOT HAVE HIS 250K.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:56 am
test
November 12th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Hiring this Diantoni guy with his gimmick offense is the equivalent of an NFL team with no good WRs hiring Jerry Glanville to play the run and shoot offense.
This is a sick fking joke and the rest of the NBA is breathing a sigh of relief right now.
JIM BUSS YOU FKN FK!
Part of the blame goes to Phil too….if you wanted to coach this team, then you should not have hesitated. You should have asked for the job on Saturday and not let dunce Buss stew on it.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:57 am
sorry laker fans , i have to agree with all the negativity about dantoni. he will not do well with howard and kobe, he doesnt emphasis defense at all and is not a good end of game manager. he must be a good interviewer though
November 12th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Later Nation.
At least try to have a great Monday.
November 12th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Bilukidi-Cut
Carter-Cut
Bryant-reserve
Kelly-reserve
Houston-start
Shaugnessy-Cut
Tollefson-reserve
Crawford-Cut
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First off, I agree 110% with your take on the importance of the D-line, I have it as my second most important position in football behind QB.
But I disagree with Bryant, Shaughnessy and Bilukiki. Bryant is a NFL starting D-lineman, and Bilukiki played well yesterday in spurts. Matt S may fall into a reserve role with a stud DE signing/drafting, or switch to the other side of the line.
TK is as good as gone.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Davis stared him down from 35 yards away and gave him the middle finger.
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Wish we had that backbone right now.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Neilb Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Shanahan is nothing as a coach.Elway won those rings.
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agreed…see his record w/o Elway
November 12th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Was that 1994 game the MNF game when we lost by 40 points and Jerry Rice broke the NFL record for TD’s?
Great times!!!!
20 years later, same shat just a different shovel.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:03 am
God damn it i am so pizzed right now. Why do all of my teams try and fit square pegs into round holes? Who in their right mind think this old azz lakers team, with almost zero outside shooting and two good post players should adopt the seven seconds or less offense, abandon post play and give up defense….because that is what you get with DiAntoni.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKK!
November 12th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 6:42 am
The HC was an interim HC…The HC went 3-4 down the stretch, won in Denver forcing Shannahan’s removal & even knocked out a team on their home field who had to win that game in order to make the playoffs & more importantly have the head coach keep his job.
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So your telling me that a 2-8 team can still play inspired ball down the stretch?
I will look for that this season as well.
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They can play nearly .500 football and fire the OC….I think Cable had a lesser QB than what Allen has right?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:05 am
• So the Raiders’ woes playing in the Eastern time zone continue. Oakland left home Friday for its flight to Baltimore, all the better to acclimate to the time change before taking on the Ravens on Sunday at 1 p.m. ET (10 a.m. PST). Lot of good it did in the Raiders’s 35-point loss at M&T Bank Stadium. They could have arrived a week ago Tuesday and it wouldn’t have made a difference.
The Raiders have played three times this season in the Eastern time zone, losing like clockwork every four weeks: 35-13 at Miami in Week 2; 23-20 at Atlanta in Week 6, and Sunday’s 55-20 humbling. They’ve got two more shots at this thing, traveling to Cincinnati in Week 12 and Carolina in Week 16.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/11/11/nfl-week-10-giants/index.html#ixzz2C1Mzdp00
November 12th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Was that 1994 game the MNF game when we lost by 40 points and Jerry Rice broke the NFL record for TD’s?
Great times!!!!
20 years later, same shat just a different shovel.
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That was the super bowl champion with a top 10 O & D…We also finished 9-7 that year after going to the playoffs the year before…But hey, you wanna compare the Ravens & Bucs offense to the 94 whiners to cut this crap staff, be my guest
November 12th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Jerry fking Sloan would have been a better choice. He would have been able to implement a pick and roll offense everyone seems to want and at the same time give them some toughness on D.
Cripes.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Oakland hasnt won on the east coast since 2008. Bartell hasnt had an int since 2008. wonder which streak will be broken first?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:08 am
nycraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 6:54 am
2006 was the last time a raider had 10+ sacks in a season..sad but true
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Sacks are overrated. PRESSURE is huge though.
Remember. 2 yr’s ago we had one of the worst defenses in the league (as usual) but we were 2nd in the NFL in sacks…and just barely 2nd.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:11 am
That was the super bowl champion with a top 10 O & D…We also finished 9-7 that year after going to the playoffs the year before…
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Yes in the mid 90’s the prostate hadn’t quite fell on the floor for this organization, so things were a tad better.
But we were still completely humiliated on national TV that game, Al’s “backbone” and all.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:12 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:08 am
nycraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 6:54 am
2006 was the last time a raider had 10+ sacks in a season..sad but true
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Sacks are overrated. PRESSURE is huge though.
Remember. 2 yr’s ago we had one of the worst defenses in the league (as usual) but we were 2nd in the NFL in sacks…and just barely 2nd.
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good point, but we really havent had a playmaker on the DE since Derrick Burgess. Wimbly had some good games, but he didnt draw that respect. On DEs rarely if ever get doubled teamed which is part of the problem for our DTs
November 12th, 2012 at 7:13 am
West Coast teams had a winning record in those 10am East Coast games last year.
When we went to Miami and shat the bed, the Cardinals rolled into New England and beat the Pats. Bronco’s certainly had no issues in Carolina yesterday (only two hour difference for them, but still no issues).
This East Coast morning thing for us is vastly overrated. We just aren’t a good football team and play like crap on the road. We played at 4pm against Green Bay last year, and that wasn’t any better
November 12th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Maybe the Lakers will hire McMillan as their defensive coordinator?
lmao
November 12th, 2012 at 7:15 am
dantoni will bring his brothers in as assistant coaches
November 12th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I got a kick out of that article that Darren went to the organization and asked for a change-up in the blocking scheme, and 5 quarters later he got hurt.
Reason #2,384 you don’t cater an offense around an oft-injured RB.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:16 am
990.Dakota Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:03 am
God damn it i am so pizzed right now. Why do all of my teams try and fit square pegs into round holes? Who in their right mind think this old azz lakers team, with almost zero outside shooting and two good post players should adopt the seven seconds or less offense, abandon post play and give up defense….because that is what you get with DiAntoni.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKK!
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My thoughts exactly. This team has no shooters, unless they trade Pau for some real shooters, this team is going to struggle under this offense. Steve Nash is just gonna dribble dribble dribble dribble and find nobody. Kobe is going to have death stares every night.
The good news is there is still time to get rid of D’Antoni and hire Phil. A mistake that will cost a lot of money and loses.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:17 am
D’Antoni wears sweet suits, has a stache and is a West Virginian Italian, which I didn’t know existed.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I foresee about 7 east coast early road games for the Raiders next season with the home teams coming off byes.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I got a kick out of that article that Darren went to the organization and asked for a change-up in the blocking scheme, and 5 quarters later he got hurt.
Reason #2,384 you don’t cater an offense around an oft-injured RB.
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Exactly what Hue did his 1st year here and we had the #2 rushing attack & 6th best scoring O in the league…But hey, this staff knows what it’s doing.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Dantoni… huh. Phil seemed alot safer.. but the triangle does take at least a yr for most guys to learn. Hope chuck person stays on as d coach.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Did no one watch what a disaster the Knicks were last season under D’Antoni?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:19 am
maybe D’Antoni adjusts his scheme for the players?…maybe they trade Pau for depth.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Boss01 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Did no one watch what a disaster the Knicks were last season under D’Antoni?
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i watched every game. dantoni was a disaster
November 12th, 2012 at 7:20 am
boss01 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:16 am
The good news is there is still time to get rid of D’Antoni and hire Phil. A mistake that will cost a lot of money and loses.
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Lol, does he get 5 games to prove himself? Hell, he won’t even be ready to coach for a week or two….I think I would have rather rolled with Bernie B over this chump lol.
Oh well….and yeah they will give up their twin tower advantage to trade for siome athletic POS who fills box scores, but will never win a championship….think Smith from Atl.
Cue the Gasol for Smith trade rumors now, because I guarantee you they are coming.
fk
November 12th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Just Fire
I believe the Oline is the most important element of a football team. Then the Dline, then QB.
A good Oline allows you to run the ball, keeping the opposition offense entirely off the field and it keeps your QB healthy which is the heart of your air attack.
That being said, our Dline is as bad as it gets.
Too many people wanted to blame scheme, coaching etc. Perceived easy fixes. IT IS A TALENT PROBLEM!!!!
This nonsense about losing in the east due to a time difference is a joke. We lose in the east because east coast teams are built to run the ball in bad weather.
They have tough physical Olines that we can not compete against.
Reggie will draft heavy on the dline in April.
Until then football novices will see Kelly and Seymour play well against the Chiefs and think we have the talent on our Dline.
WE DO NOT.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:22 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:19 am
maybe D’Antoni adjusts his scheme for the players?…maybe they trade Pau for depth.
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nope, he wouldnt adjust for melo..basically battled him and lost the battle in the end..
November 12th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Our focus in the draft, no matter what we have to do to make it happen, is to get a playmaker at all 3 levels of the defense. They need to draft and identity. Like the Bears or the Ravens on defense that just will not stand for being abused like that. You know, all the hullaballoo being made about the fake FG, well our defense deserved it for Joselio Hanson celebrating like a punk rookie after breaking up a pass. IF you act a fool you get smacked. I would put EVERYONE on defense on notice. No ones job is safe. Coach player… it doesn’t matter.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:23 am
The lakers will be fine. Theyre already starting to gel a bit..
November 12th, 2012 at 7:26 am
The raiders however need to play tp before we slip even further down the draft board. We need a top 3 pick
November 12th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Marks hair Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:23 am
The lakers will be fine. Theyre already starting to gel a bit..
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I guess if you define “fine” as fun to watch in the regular season, play no defense, flame out in the playoff and watch as their best young player bolts in the offseason….then you might be right.
I think Laker fans want more than that.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:29 am
should be interesting watching dantoni telling kobe to pass the ball and spread out on offense.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:29 am
In 2009 and 2010, there were 13 teams that either went 7-9 or 8-8, and only 1 of the 13 made the playoffs the next season (the 2010 Bears).
That’s 1 out of 13, or 7.4%.
Of the 2011 teams (Jets, Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Bears, Cardinals) I see only two playoff teams out of 9.
So that is 3 of 22, or about 14% over that last 3 years.
8-8 is not all it is wrapped up to be. Jaguars were 7-9 and than 8-8 in 2009 and 2010, and are a hotter mess than us now.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Are those draft picks the Lakers sent for Nash lottery protected?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Exactly what Hue did his 1st year here and we had the #2 rushing attack & 6th best scoring O in the league…But hey, this staff knows what it’s doing.
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DMac hasn’t been doing anything with the gap and power blocking either. Rushing for 70 yards in the 4th qtr against the Chiefs not withstanding.
Fact is, the oline blows, and it aint the scheme. Players gotta make plays
November 12th, 2012 at 7:31 am
We need to focus on both lines in the draft and FA. CB is a huge need too.
DL:
LDE: Shaughnessy
DT: Houston
DT: Bryant
RDE: ?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I believe the Oline is the most important element of a football team. Then the Dline, then QB.
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We have been back and forth on this over the years, so not trying to go there.
I am curious though, as to who you think has the best O-lines in football.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I’ll bet Mitch Cokchap is pizzed that he was forced to claim the decision was unanimous. He knows damn well that this is not a fit and will end in disaster.
Cokchap will ask out of his contract soon.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Well the season is over. Sadly my predictions are coming true. This is not a good football team. To keep going like we are is not the answer. Changes need to be made and made from top to bottom.
1.) Player Execution – Even when the execute on offense the plays are terrible enough to not really matter. The only time we really move the ball is going deep. Knapp is a terrible play caller. To stick to their guns now is just what I hope to be ego, because if it’s not it means it’s just stupidity.
2.)Run game – that’s a complete joke, there is no running game.
3.) Pass game is serviceable, if they can open the run game our receivers will be open more.
4.) Defense is just awful at no point on defense do we excel at anything. We have upgraded LB’s and it makes no difference.
5.) Special Teams – again, this is usually a penalty waiting to happen. No hands, we get a decent run back and get called for a block to the back.
6.) Coaching – the only thing special about the coaching is how bad it is. Knapp is a wast of space, Tarver is clearly out matched on the field over and over again. If our players are really that sub-standard, then the coaching staff hasn’t done enough to change that variable. They seem to want a fish to climb a tree instead of just letting swim.
7.) GM- unfortunately it’s going to take longer than a year or two to see if RM is any good. AD did leave him a mess.(and I, like you, am completely out of patience)
Awful, just freakin awful – I left the house yesterday to go to the grocery store, and I left my Raiders cap at home. Didn’t mean to, it just happened. I haven’t done that in a decade. My subconscious mind is telling me something. For the first time since ‘76, I shut the Raider game off. Just couldn’t watch it anymore. I haven’t seen every game since then, just when it’s on my TV I always watch. Not yesterday.
I don’t think I’ve ever been so disappointed in a season of football.
The only good thing is, we aren’t the KC Chiefs.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:35 am
You can try to argue and compare stats to last season, but last year’s team is better.
We lost 4 of our 5 last games (pathetic), and we still finished 8-8.
This team is a mess.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:35 am
What an embarrassment this team is. I can handle a loss, but to be non competitive is unacceptable.
It should not take over 12 weeks for an Oline to gel.
The D is in shambles, no pressure, no pride what so ever.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, starting from coaching on down.
This will be an interesting off season with all the holes we’ll have to fill, from slackers to one year deals expiring.
This team isn’t very entertaining this season. I don’t know how you season ticket holders do it.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Exactly what Hue did his 1st year here and we had the #2 rushing attack & 6th best scoring O in the league…But hey, this staff knows what it’s doing.
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DMac hasn’t been doing anything with the gap and power blocking either. Rushing for 70 yards in the 4th qtr against the Chiefs not withstanding.
Fact is, the oline blows, and it aint the scheme. Players gotta make plays
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wasnt our oline good last year? whats the reason for their poor performance this year..is it the new guys reggie brought in? players made plays last year, not this year
November 12th, 2012 at 7:36 am
anyone get fired yet?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I don’t blame Tarver for the defense. You can’t make chicken salad out of dog sh1t.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I rather draft DL and Skill positions over OL (except LT) in the 1st 2 rounds.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:38 am
The Raiders blow.
Season was over the day they hired Knapp.
Get over it.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:38 am
We set an NFL record for most 10 loss seasons in a row, and people NOW are finally saying they had enough?
Don’t get that.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:38 am
bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I don’t blame Tarver for the defense. You can’t make chicken salad out of dog sh1t.
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I can too, it’s his job to make chicken salad out of dot $h!t
November 12th, 2012 at 7:39 am
wasnt our oline good last year? whats the reason for their poor performance this year..is it the new guys reggie brought in? players made plays last year, not this year
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Only 1 guy is playing the same position as last year. This isn’t the same oline. It’s not a fair comparison.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:40 am
If Knapp comes back next year we will all just be kidding ourselves between January and September that this team will be anything other than hot garbage again.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Reggie and DA won’t get fired and that’s fine, they screwed up this season but you have to give them time to make up for it, can’t be sure they will but they have to get a shot.
Reggie’s big mistake was trying to win, overhaul the roster and implement new offensive and defensive systems all at once under a rookie coach and a questionable staff of rejects and inexperienced guys.
Reggie had 3 options:
1. Bring back Hue and give him this seaon to finish what he started, if it didn’t work out Reggie would have been able to say: hey we gave it a shot, it didn’t pan out, now we’re doing it my way and starting over.
2. Go full rebuild, get rid of as many veteran contracts as possible, don’t sign any more veteran free agents and don’t restructure deals that took moeny off this year’s cap and put it into future seasons (Seymour), fill the team with undrafted free agents and practice squad types and try to find a diamond on the rough or two, in other words…bottom out intentionally and start over, now it seems that’s what’s about to happen next year, so this will go down as a lost season and delay the rebuilding a full year.
3.The 2012 Raiders, a team with no leadership, an overwhelmed coaching staff,a bunch of players that know they won’t be a part of the future so they are already looking into playing elsewhere next year and in some instances breaking or on pace to break negative records.
Gotta run now, have a lot more to say so see you later.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I don’t blame Tarver for the defense. You can’t make chicken salad out of dog sh1t.
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His defense allowed 97 points in 2 weeks, but you don’t think he deserves any blame?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:39 am
wasnt our oline good last year? whats the reason for their poor performance this year..is it the new guys reggie brought in? players made plays last year, not this year
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Only 1 guy is playing the same position as last year. This isn’t the same oline. It’s not a fair comparison.
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It’s fair. No one forced the current staff to switch players’ positions. We have 4 starters from last year. That’s a fact!
November 12th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I can too, it’s his job to make chicken salad out of dot $h!t
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Thats BS man. Squeeze as hard as you want and you will never get blood from a stone. We have 0 talent on defense. This is no surprise to the objective observer. I said before the season that this is a 5-11 6-10 football team.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:44 am
we gave brisel a 20 mil contract. the texans signed danieal manning for their secondary for 20 mil. One player makes plays , the other just sucks. reggie did spend money, just on the wrong guys.
I know, yep we had cap issues, yep also what good player wants to come play here, I understand all the excuses for 2012. But there are none for 2013. we dont have cap issues and Reggie has his draft.
To me , its obvious our players are horrible . We dont have any playmakers on the defense. But I’m not convinced Reggie is the guy. I mean his 3rd round draft pick cant beat out Willie Smith? Reggie will get his chance, but 1 year from now, there are no excuses.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Lets see, did Chuck Bresnahan’s D ever allow 97 pts in consecutive games?
Both coordinators had zero talent but at least Chuck managed to keep teams from scoring double nickles.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:39 am
wasnt our oline good last year? whats the reason for their poor performance this year..is it the new guys reggie brought in? players made plays last year, not this year
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Only 1 guy is playing the same position as last year. This isn’t the same oline. It’s not a fair comparison.
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whose to blame for messing with a successful line then? No one?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Told you we should have done a firesale while we could… wasted yr..
November 12th, 2012 at 7:46 am
This staff makes me miss the Fat Monkey aka Cable and Robo Ryan.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Can’t wait to see this team get gutted.
Is this the last year of JaWalrus’es cap penalty against the Raiders? I’d be interested to see a breakdown of the Raiders’ players and salaries with cap space and penalties broken down. I’m guessing that alone would let you know who’s walking.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Being patient and positive is for the players. the fans should get pissed and call for and coaches to get fired. Thats our job
November 12th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Bergstrom, Biluki, Criner, Crawford are turning out to be wasted picks by Reggie. We needed players that could contribute NOW. Would have been nice if at least 1 guy other than Burris could contribute. A decent O-lineman or D-lineman could have done wonders.
If Willie Smith is still getting reps, that means Bergstrom sucks. We needed that pick to be money.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:50 am
How long are you going to complain about coaching. It’s always coaching. At what point do the fvcking players stop being pvssies and stand up and play! I’m so sick of the whining about coaching…. blah fvcking blah man. If you get 97 points hung on you in 2 weeks its because you don’t have enough pride as a player to make a fvckin stop. You got pvssies on that defense like Giordano who falls down and acts hurt every time someone scores, or like Joselio Hanson who celebrates a broken up pass when you are losing by 35. Or the geniuses like Aaron Curry who dive at guys heads 20 seconds after the whistle blows. You got tough guys like Tommy Kelly who talk a big game to the media and then disappear during the game… how DO you make a 300lb man invisible? This is same sh1t we have seen for 10+ years… but yeah, lets blame it on the coaches… again.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:51 am
1019. Exactly.. id rather have good picks than go 8-8.
1020. Nope just picks wherever they land in the rd we gave up.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am
“Mike Brown has one big flaw in his coaching: he does not make adjustments in game. That’s what killed him in Cleveland, and that’s what killed him with the Lakers. If you go back to every series that the Cleveland Cavaliers lost, and every series that the Lakers lost, Mike Brown did not make adjustments within the game. That’s it. Let’s keep it real. If we’re going to be real, then let’s keep it real. That’s his biggest flaw. It’s not preparation. It’s not his defense, before the game and getting a game plan together. It’s within the game.” Magic Johnson
Not make adjustments in game…Who’s that remind you of?
November 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Here is part of the difference between our run game and the Texans…offensive lines aside…and the difference between Foster, and Undrafted Free Agent Practice Squad guy, and our near and dear Darrin McFadden…
If you want to earn the respect of a hard-hitting defense, you have to be hard-hitting yourself.
So it was no surprise the Bears were impressed with Texans running back Arian Foster last night.
“He’s a bad ass,” Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher said, via John Mullin of CSNChicago.com. “You watch him on tape, you watch him on TV, you can’t really get a grasp of how fast he is, how big he is. I had no idea.”
He does now.
Foster did the toughest thing for a running back to do — he ran when everybody in the building knew the run was coming.
It was just the second time in 20 games the Bears had allowed a 100-yard rusher, but it was different from the 141 Chris Johnson hung on them. That included an 80-yard run in the fourth quarter of a blowout, whereas Foster got his yards methodically.
“He’s so patient,” Bears defensive end Corey Wootton said. “It’s not so much that he’s explosive. He waits on his blockers, makes good decisions and then really hits the hole he picks.”
November 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am
whose to blame for messing with a successful line then? No one?
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I said early on in the preseason that the 1 glaring mistake that would haunt us was not resigning Bob Wylie and letting him handle the oline. He had those guys playing above their heads.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Guys, our coaches and GM can not fix 10 years of mismanagement in one.
Everyone on this blog thought our schemes were outdated and our coaches for the last ten years were buffoons.
They were not.
Our talent has been sub standard since 2002!!!!!!!!!!
On previous posts I have pointed out that our 1st and 2nd round picks for the last ten years have been awful. Further, there has been almost no focus on either line during that ten year period.
This is what you get. Second tier types that others have deemed expendable: Brisiel,Tollefson,Seymour,Carter,Smith etc etc etc.
The only solution is develop a system and draft the talent to fit it.
3-5 YEARS OF REBUILDING.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Bcz 24
See my post 1054.
You are 150% CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Our OL was solid last year. We have 4 starters from last year, but the current staff decided it’s better to switch their positions and scheme, and you don’t want to blame the coaching staff. It’s not the same OL?! No Shiiiiiiit! Why is that?
You People…..
November 12th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Boss01 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Bergstrom, Biluki, Criner, Crawford are turning out to be wasted picks by Reggie. We needed players that could contribute NOW. Would have been nice if at least 1 guy other than Burris could contribute. A decent O-lineman or D-lineman could have done wonders.
If Willie Smith is still getting reps, that means Bergstrom sucks. We needed that pick to be money.
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Exactly, and you also give opportunities to DVD & Barksdale before just stating ‘oh they suck’ I can find better…Joselio Hansen should be cut today for barking at Bolden.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Nobody but mactroll20 is giving these players a pass. Top pick = new players.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:56 am
boss01 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Bergstrom, Biluki, Criner, Crawford are turning out to be wasted picks by Reggie. We needed players that could contribute NOW. Would have been nice if at least 1 guy other than Burris could contribute. A decent O-lineman or D-lineman could have done wonders.
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Come on man. You can’t expect day 1 play makers to be drafted AFTER the 3rd round. Sure you may hit on 1 here or there (Burris) but they are mostly developmental guys. It is irrational to think that Reggie failed because he didn’t get 5 playmakers with his 5 draft packs after the third round.
November 12th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Raider O Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Our OL was solid last year. We have 4 starters from last year, but the current staff decided it’s better to switch their positions and scheme, and you don’t want to blame the coaching staff. It’s not the same OL?! No Shiiiiiiit! Why is that?
You People….
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Holla!
November 12th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Charlie Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Guys, our coaches and GM can not fix 10 years of mismanagement in one.
Everyone on this blog thought our schemes were outdated and our coaches for the last ten years were buffoons.
They were not.
Our talent has been sub standard since 2002!!!!!!!!!!
On previous posts I have pointed out that our 1st and 2nd round picks for the last ten years have been awful. Further, there has been almost no focus on either line during that ten year period.
This is what you get. Second tier types that others have deemed expendable: Brisiel,Tollefson,Seymour,Carter,Smith etc etc etc.
The only solution is develop a system and draft the talent to fit it.
3-5 YEARS OF REBUILDING.
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They will not get 5 years if the team still sucks…Most coaches get 3…if they’re lucky, Hell, Spagnulo & McDaniels didn’t get that many years & they were coordinators on SuperBowl winning teams.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Or the geniuses like Aaron Curry who dive at guys heads 20 seconds after the whistle blows.
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That guy…….SMH
Beyond awful.
That was a terrible trade.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Also, I didn’t think Hue’s scheme was outdated..BTW, how is our updated D scheme looking now?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:01 am
We have 4 starters from last year,
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Barnes hasn’t played in almost 2 months, let’s revise that to 3 starters, can we?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:01 am
1059.bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:56 am
boss01 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Bergstrom, Biluki, Criner, Crawford are turning out to be wasted picks by Reggie. We needed players that could contribute NOW. Would have been nice if at least 1 guy other than Burris could contribute. A decent O-lineman or D-lineman could have done wonders.
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Come on man. You can’t expect day 1 play makers to be drafted AFTER the 3rd round. Sure you may hit on 1 here or there (Burris) but they are mostly developmental guys. It is irrational to think that Reggie failed because he didn’t get 5 playmakers with his 5 draft packs after the third round.
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I expected that 3rd round pick to be a guy that is contributing on the field on some capacity. Yes Burris was a find. You can find value in 3rd round picks. What value is Bergstrom giving us?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am
whose to blame for messing with a successful line then? No one?
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I said early on in the preseason that the 1 glaring mistake that would haunt us was not resigning Bob Wylie and letting him handle the oline. He had those guys playing above their heads.
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you also said Reggie’s only mistake was hiring knapp. so i guess this falls under Knapps umbrella. You are right that the players are the one making the mistakes and proving they are not nfl caliber. Most on this blog 100% agree that many players should go. To me the biggest question mark is Reggie. His selection at CBs were horrible, he signed Brisel for 20 mil, one of the worst signings ever . Franchised Branch who constantly is part of our middle of the field issues. his 3rd round pick at lineman cant beat out willie smith. Reggie will get his chance, but in 2013 there are no excuses.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Burris is regressing badly.
He has slammed into the proverbial rookie wall, head first.
Still think he will be a good solid pick, but right now he is giving us D+ level LB’ing play.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I expected that 3rd round pick to be a guy that is contributing on the field on some capacity. Yes Burris was a find. You can find value in 3rd round picks. What value is Bergstrom giving us?
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There were 33 3rd round picks this year, I guarantee without even looking you cant find 3 starters, and I bet less than 1/3 (11 players) are contributing anything more than special teams.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Russell Wilson is obviously the find of the 3rd round this past draft, and outside of that the best two players after him are probabaly the Sanu WR for Cincy and the Jags punter.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Last yr we were compeditive. This yr we’re not.. i knew it was comming. The coaches suck. And the zbs didnt fit.. it was a sure recipe for regression.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:09 am
You people have weird logic.
“It’s not the same OL”
“Knapp is good because Reggie and DA hired him”
“DA the rookie HC with one year experience at DC picked his staff without the GM’s approval”
“it’s not Knapp’s fault. Blame the talent”
You People…..
November 12th, 2012 at 8:11 am
1068.bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I expected that 3rd round pick to be a guy that is contributing on the field on some capacity. Yes Burris was a find. You can find value in 3rd round picks. What value is Bergstrom giving us?
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There were 33 3rd round picks this year, I guarantee without even looking you cant find 3 starters, and I bet less than 1/3 (11 players) are contributing anything more than special teams.
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Lets see, Russell Wilson, T. Y. Hilton, Sean Spence, are solid starters
November 12th, 2012 at 8:11 am
bergstrom was projected as a 5th or 6th round pick by many draft sources. Reggie did reach on him. time will tell, but as of right now this 26yr old rookie cant beat out willie smith
November 12th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Can we agree the season was basically lost the day Reggie was hired and Hue fired?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Im watch greg krapp cook a cat in the microwave while telling me to be patient.. Steaks are almost ready… fùcking dumb monkeys
November 12th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Why do people believe the team needs to regress to rebuild. Seems ass backward to me.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
ABout the only positive I got from yesterday was the play of Bilukidi. Obviously he didn’t dominate or anything, but he came in and had a few tackles and showed a decent ability to rush the passer.
And most importantly, after making a tackle in the 4th quarter, no celebration, no Joselio Hanson trash talk, he generally just seemed pissed off about the whole thing.
The kid seems to get “it”, from reading his draft quotes and now his play in games.
Not a Pro Bowl player, but maybe can be a Rod Coleman type player in the years ahead.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I expected that 3rd round pick to be a guy that is contributing on the field on some capacity. Yes Burris was a find. You can find value in 3rd round picks. What value is Bergstrom giving us?
$$$$$$$$$$
Exactly.
He doesn’t have to be a starter, but the guy wasn’t even a backup. He was inactive on gamedays the 1st half of this season, and an UDFA was our backup C/G and W Smith is our backup RT.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Lets see, Russell Wilson, T. Y. Hilton, Sean Spence, are solid starters
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Ummm……Sean Spence blew out his knee in preseason and hasn’t seen a snap, Hilton has about the same stats as Rod Streater.
I will stick with Sanu and Angerer as #2 and #3 of that round.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Ok new eeek new contest,..who has a banner idea for my row 1 location for Saints game?…winner gets a row 5 pair,…so far Plunkethead is getting close,…contest ends friday. Bring it.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
1078.Raider O Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I expected that 3rd round pick to be a guy that is contributing on the field on some capacity. Yes Burris was a find. You can find value in 3rd round picks. What value is Bergstrom giving us?
$$$$$$$$$$
Exactly.
He doesn’t have to be a starter, but the guy wasn’t even a backup. He was inactive on gamedays the 1st half of this season, and an UDFA was our backup C/G and W Smith is our backup RT.
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Exactly
November 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Reggie inherited a pile of crap with no picks.
He did the best he could with other teams rejects.
He has said all along that we will rebuild through the draft. That is what we will do. Until he gets some 1st and 2nd round picks shut up about Reggie and the coaches.
Our roster is paper thin. (See special teams).You may not like what I have to say but this is a 3-5 year project.
WE HAVE CHANGED COACHES FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS AND IT HAS FAILED BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE TALENT ESPECIALLY ON THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
Any one who does not see that does not know football.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
I believe Jack Crawford will emerge as the worst draft pick of this class for us.
Not disappointed, because I did not expect anything from him. He wasn’t very good at Penn State, and has a little too much John Amaechi in him for my liking.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
If they wanted to rebuild this team they should have realized what they had working well and build around that not tear down everything like they did.
I knew they made a mistake when I heard they had hired Knapp and were moving to the zone blocking scheme.
We had a top 5 rushing team over the last couple of years….if it were me I would have said lets build around whats currently working well which was only ONE THING…THE RUNNING GAME!!
When you go from a top 5 rushing team to dead last in one year YES you can blame the coaches at that point.
ONE LAST POINT!
I read several articles one that quoted Huff saying now that our defense is modern and the outdated Al Davis scheme is gone they will be a top 5 defense…LMFAO where is the top 5 defense we were promised with the NEW SCHEME?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:22 am
1079.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Lets see, Russell Wilson, T. Y. Hilton, Sean Spence, are solid starters
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Ummm……Sean Spence blew out his knee in preseason and hasn’t seen a snap, Hilton has about the same stats as Rod Streater.
I will stick with Sanu and Angerer as #2 and #3 of that round.
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T. Y. Hilton is sure contributing more than Bergstrom and Spence will be if he heals.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:22 am
By the way, only one season left up in Oakland,..2014 will be in LA,..its not even a secret any longer,…people in LA know it, people in Oakland know it…Mark told people in Baltimore in the hotel lobby saturday about it, (after a few belts)…next year will be interesting as Hell,…lets hope it gets very ugly…maybe some of those Occupy Oakland losers can help, clearly they have nothing else to do, this will give them a few months to get a free lunch again.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:22 am
).You may not like what I have to say but this is a 3-5 year project.
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10 and then
November 12th, 2012 at 8:25 am
T. Y. Hilton is sure contributing more than Bergstrom and Spence will be if he heals.
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That wasn’t my argument, but yes Hilton is producing more than Bergs as, right now.
Spence might not play an NFL snap after completely shredding every knee ligament and breaking his kneecap.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Why do we in the blog struggle with letting ex raiders go? especially when the rest of the nfl does care. From Cable, Huejak, sterling moore, dvd, derrick hagan..whose next taiwan jones. some of you actually predicted DVD would be a pro bowl player after his release. if hue jackson is such a good head coach than shouldnt he get another HC job next year? same with cable
Hue jackson had many excuses , but his ego and his ability to blame others cost him his job. quite frankly, if i died and someone insulted me like Hue did , i would hope my son would stand up for me like Mark Davis did. I get that so many reggie lovers in here are hard on Hue but give Reggie all the excuses in the world. I disagree with that, but at some point we all have to move on. many of us in here suffer from overating our own players. bottom line, our players are a mess, knapp needs to go and DA and reggie have had horrible first years ytd.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:26 am
WTF is Curry thinking? Two Personal Fouls? Jeesh, he’s gone… wow, where is the talent? look at every single unit, its thin on talent, OL, WRs, RB, DL, LBs, DBs, we’ve got four or five starting caliber players on the team! then you add a lack of discipline and lack of interest from team vets and this is what you get….
SUPER DUPER URGENT things to FIX:
1) Cant run the ball
2) Cant pressure the QB
November 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am
anyone fired yet?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Just dumb.. the whole season. The whole plan. Just dumb..
November 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
1082. This team was 1 play out of the playoffs last year. I’m not sure how firing the head coach, getting rid of the guys who got you there and replacing them with other teams rejects is supposed to make us better unless you are saying he is tanking the season for better draft picks.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
. From Cable, Huejak, sterling moore, dvd, derrick hagan..whose next taiwan jones. some of you actually predicted DVD would be a pro bowl player after his release.
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Don’t forget “Beast” Campbell, who is inactive weekly for the Panthers.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I want this season to be over with already. Can’t wait to see some of the gutting that will go on before the draft.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Knapp needs to got, no question. But building this roster up to playoff lever will take some 3 or 4 years. Look at it, nothing to build on, when youve got a ton of money invested on Dline and you can pressure the QB then youve got a huge problem. Our best CB is a Draft Bust Safety. Our franchise tag safety is grasping at air…our best player is a journeyman LB…wow, zero talent.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
. From Cable, Huejak, sterling moore, dvd, derrick hagan..whose next taiwan jones. some of you actually predicted DVD would be a pro bowl player after his release.
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Don’t forget “Beast” Campbell, who is inactive weekly for the Panthers.
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And Louis Murphy, who had zero catches yesterday…
November 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
keep these players on o
veldheer
wiz
meyers
reece
mcfadden
dhb
streeter
moore
November 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
. From Cable, Huejak, sterling moore, dvd, derrick hagan..whose next taiwan jones. some of you actually predicted DVD would be a pro bowl player after his release.
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Don’t forget “Beast” Campbell, who is inactive weekly for the Panthers.
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And Louis Murphy, who had zero catches yesterday…
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and Stan Routt who is looking for a job…
November 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says
The Fake Fg?… It’s a sign of the way our team has lost respect….teams are licking their Chops to play the Raiders
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It’s a sign That Hansen was confused as to how bad he was getting his ass whopped and he talked shvt when he shound not have. Harbaugh just wanted to make sure he knew we were losing.
I really believe that the two events are related
November 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
1099.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
. From Cable, Huejak, sterling moore, dvd, derrick hagan..whose next taiwan jones. some of you actually predicted DVD would be a pro bowl player after his release.
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Don’t forget “Beast” Campbell, who is inactive weekly for the Panthers.
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And Louis Murphy, who had zero catches yesterday…
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and Stan Routt who is looking for a job…
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And Kam Wimbley’s 3 1/2 sacks
November 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
keep these players on d
huff
branch
houston
shonasty
bryant
November 12th, 2012 at 8:39 am
“And Kam Wimbley’s 3 1/2 sacks”
At a price of 2.3 million per sack
yeah Wimbly is serviceable but he is no rock star he should not be getting Julius Peppers pay!
November 12th, 2012 at 8:39 am
statements that should not be made in after july 2013
1) We cant sign anyone because we have cap issues
2) reggie hasnt had a chance to have an entire draft
3) rolando Mcclain , tommy Kelly, Richard seymour ,lechler, entire secondary , brisel, are part of the raiders roster
4) greg knapp is our offensive coordinator
5) Hue jackson should come back to coach our team
November 12th, 2012 at 8:39 am
hanson is a moron. what an idiot. look at the scorboard son and stfu.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I say keep the cheap players. Build around the draft. Keep some cash ready in case you get a chance at a top tier FA at an impact position: DE, DT, OT, OG, WR….
November 12th, 2012 at 8:41 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:39 am
hanson is a moron. what an idiot. look at the scorboard son and stfu.
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kinda reminded me of cj37. something he would do
November 12th, 2012 at 8:42 am
LT Veldheer is a 3rd round pick
SS Branch is a 4th round pick
Moore is a 5th round pick
BURRIS is a 4th round pick, so he was drafted after the 26 YO rookie.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I am still sticking to the script that if Stefan Wisniewski was Stefan Williams, he would not be as popular as he is in here.
Lots of penalties, lots of iffy pass-protection.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Who the F is the special teams coach? as much as Knapp sucks it up every sunday, the Special teams coach manages to Fugg it up in a limited ammount of plays…fumbles, fake punts awry, fake FGs for a td, every week he is being out coached, he is a Chucky B type dumb SOB…
November 12th, 2012 at 8:44 am
watching the team on the sidelines yesterday and no one seemed pissed or embarassed. acting like a bunch of thugs… there is no team here. bunch of guys picking up paychecks.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:47 am
I didn’t know Spence was injured. I wanted us to draft him. I like Miami LBs. A little undersized, but they have speed and they are well coached.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Sure this team had issues when RM took over out of whack salaries very thin at every position because of the out of whack salaries.
Probably a corporate office that looked like it was straight out of a Flintstones carton. A buddy system that had been in place for decades that meant employees that needed to be replaced coaches that had been here for years on Scholarship.
I get that its a process and this entire organization needed to be taken into the modern era top to bottom.
BUT!
Why not build on the one strength this team had when RM took over. WHY WHY WHY screw with the O-Line WHY WHY WHY let Bob Wylie go.
Why not try build around that running game use it as a spring board to get you to .500.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
anyone fired yet? come on reg. make a statement. Mark D. get pissed would ya? this crap is not exceptable anymore!
November 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Has Phillip Adams been cut yet?
If not, he should get the Roscoe Parrish treatment today.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:51 am
he should be cut now!
November 12th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Should have traded dmac while we could. Palmer too.. the firesale needed to happen.. but high hopes from retards got in the way.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Here you go, Special Teams Coord Steve Hoffman comes from the worst team in the league: the KC Chiefs. he has managed to turn the Raiders Special Teams into hot garbage…
November 12th, 2012 at 8:52 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Ok new eeek new contest,..who has a banner idea for my row 1 location for Saints game?…winner gets a row 5 pair,…so far Plunkethead is getting close,…contest ends friday. Bring it.
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A new Era of TOUCHE, OLE, DOUCHES
November 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
1090,
Nycraider,
What did Hue say to anybody that was so insulting?
He never mentioned anybody personally he just referred to the defense not doing its job WHICH IT WASN’T and then said the whole thing “was a joke”…WHICH IT WAS.
WTH was so insulting about what he said?
November 12th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Ya, Palmer is clearly the problem.
The guy has no running game at all to support him, he’s thrown for the 3rd highest yards in the NFL, and he’s the problem.
SMH.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Knapp is an arrogant looking person I saw him on the sidelines when Palmer was trying to tell him something he was rolling his eyes.
I was thinking you might want to listen to your QB ass face since your not the one out there.
Seems like a real arrogant person to me.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:56 am
There’s no excuse for not TRYING to run the ball yesterday, until the game was well out of hand.
No excuse at all.
The Ravens have really been struggling against the run and all we called were passes.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:58 am
The only bright spot yesterday was enjoying Norv’s little rant during his presser. Now that was priceless.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:59 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
anyone fired yet? come on reg. make a statement. Mark D. get pissed would ya? this crap is not exceptable anymore!
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This is what I personally do not understand
What hapeened to accountability. All we get is cliches. Isn’t anyone in management pvssed off> I sure the fvck am!
Just a statement would be something. Come on Reg man up!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Why not run Jones yesterday? really bad decision. why even have him on the team. I am over allen. he does not have it.
November 12th, 2012 at 8:59 am
A new Era of TOUCHE, OLE, DOUCHES, CLICHES
November 12th, 2012 at 9:00 am
1090,
NYC, I misread your post at first. My apologies. You are referring to what Hue said about Al, but again, what did he ever say about Al that was so offensive?
He stuck up fpor the guy and called him “Coach”. In fact the biggest criticism about Hue on this blog was that he kissed up to him too much.
The fact he said “we all know it was Al’s defense” is not an insult, it’s just the truth.
Hue’s not coming back and we don’t need to belabor the whole thing but it seems we tend to pick apart everything the guy did or said as if it were some egregious affront.
I’d take Hue’s Raiders over this crap everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
This team has regressed. Arguably the worst team in football right now and getting worse by the week.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am
“What hapeened to accountability. All we get is cliches. Isn’t anyone in management pvssed off> I sure the fvck am!”
It was embarrassing for all of us especially the fake field goal it shows how weak we are at every level.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I
November 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am
So Knapp is Ignorant and arrogant.
Fire that ugly (lol) SOB now.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:02 am
What hapeened to accountability. All we get is cliches. Isn’t anyone in management pvssed off> I sure the fvck am!
Just a statement would be something. Come on Reg man up!!!
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There was no accountability yesterday. Even the penalties crept up. All there was was check cashers not givin a F.
D.A. was supposed to be this hard @$$ who got in people’s faces preaching accountability.
So far he has failed my eye test miserably.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Theres a reason players yell at knapp on the sidelines. Theres a reason wiz quit..
November 12th, 2012 at 9:03 am
“I’d take Hue’s Raiders over this crap everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
This team has regressed. Arguably the worst team in football right now and getting worse by the week.”
Sad that we look at it that way but as a fan when your one good defensive play from post season and the very next year you are one of the worst teams in the NFL……as a paying fan we have a right to be angry and its OK to want to improve every year not regress.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I have been a Raider fan for 45 years and can’t evr remember being this embarrassed or ashamed.
I do realize in the Grand Scheme of things it is only a football game but, WTF? SMH> Not ROFLMAO cause this shvt ain’t funny even a little bit
November 12th, 2012 at 9:04 am
reggie just waking up yo play with his practice roster…
November 12th, 2012 at 9:05 am
I want to know to see what allen writes down on his little pad after every bad play or penalty.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:06 am
cable was better than allen. so was hue. this team is a steqaming pile of stinky brown sludge.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:08 am
This is bad. Not bed and breakfast bad. Remember when the Bed&Breakfast team played the chargers and Marty had a 3 point lead late in the first quarter and decided not to throw another pass the whole game cause he knew the 3 point lead was safe? LOL, man that was sad.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:08 am
ravens kicker
Asked if he noticed the Raiders being upset, Koch replied: “Not that I know of. I was too busy doing high-fives and spiking the ball.”
meanwhile dennis allen is walking slowly after jim harbaugh bned him sideways…
November 12th, 2012 at 9:08 am
1131, What an insightful post i made there. Lol.
I read some of Sapp’s book…especially the Raider stuff and yes, that section is just him defending himself for sucking while with the Raiders and making excuses, but he did make some valid points i think.
He said the team at that time just didn’t care if they won or lost…just check cashers. He gave props to Al for being a legend but also said the game had passed him by..common stuff…but he also said the team was loaded with talent at times…just didn’t care enough.
He said he was forced into a position on the line that made no sense and took away what he did best.
He did give props to the Raider fans as being the most passionate and loyal fans in football and that we deserved better.
The stuff about the guys not caring reminds of where the team is at right now.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:09 am
DJ Johnny Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
1090,
Nycraider,
What did Hue say to anybody that was so insulting?
He never mentioned anybody personally he just referred to the defense not doing its job WHICH IT WASN’T and then said the whole thing “was a joke”…WHICH IT WAS.
WTH was so insulting about what he said?
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he definately implied davis was the problem….heres a quote from Hue:
“I think when you work for the Raiders, you understand that Al Davis is first and foremost — you work for him,” Jackson said. “So I didn’t get an opportunity to put everybody that I wanted on my staff, or run the team or the situation with football operations the way I see fit.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Sapp committed robbery every time he picked up his paycheck but that wasn’t enough, no. He then turns around and slams the franchise every chance he gets.
He’s the turd of turds, IMO.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
I am not a Huejak fan but I understand any fan of Huejak who has issues with Reggie supporters continually giving him a pass because of all the excuses. Hue had to deal with alot , imo he probably would have been the coach if he somehow could have checked his ego at the door. something he may not be capable of. Anyway, hes gone and its not like we lost vince lombardi. Time to move forward, to me knapp is gone in january, DA and Reggie will probably remain but they both have alot to prove in 2013. no excuses!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 9:16 am
boxscore from the SD-Oak game where marty shoved it by running it:
SD rushes 48, passes, 11, score 27-0….that was way more embarrasing than yesterday’s shellacking.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:17 am
What up Nation?? 10 years of futility has made me numb to losses, but this was a catastrophic loss!
Time to start evaluating the current roster to make way for next years… This includes getting Pryor on the field!! Call me an imbecile or what you want, but if we dont see what we have roster-wide now, the first half of next season is going to be when it gets done… And that’s too damn late for me and this Raiders team…
Get it done NOW!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 9:17 am
nah this was bad…
November 12th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Giordano has to go asap, if not sooner.
Can Mitchell really be THAT bad, that he can’t replace Giordano?
November 12th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Tonites the night to start rooting for KC in an attempt to up our draft position….
Not to mention because I HATE sh!ttsburgh!
November 12th, 2012 at 9:21 am
It is interesting.
Titans lose big and the owner Bud Adams makes a statement of outrage and accountability.
Most every team in the league cares enough about their fans to at least pretend like they give a s.chytt.
We hear nothing except our HC with the obligatory cliche… “this is unacceptable”. Which leads to ask “really”? “Is this really unacceptable….and how much so?” That’s not enough for me.
I’m not gonna get it, and some of you will argue I don’t deserve it anyway, but i’d like to hear SOMETHING from Reggie or Mark that this really is not acceptable and they’re gonna do things to make it better. Something from them that shows they are pizzed.
I wonder if they really are. Maybe they aren’t.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I’m still hanging on. But outside of the Nation and the uniforms this doesn’t even feel like the Raiders anymore. That fake FG and zero retaliation was a landmark low point. The new regime is an unquestioned flop at this point. Might as well be the Oakland Jaguars or something.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:23 am
lov him or hate him, after that fake fg,,seymour would have sent a message
November 12th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Just pay the man.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/standing-1-ncaa-oregon-chip-kelly-call-shot-175109399–nfl.html;_ylt=A2KJNF.hMKFQykQAT0bQtDMD
November 12th, 2012 at 9:28 am
The reason no one is fired yet is because they know (or think they know) that this year is just waiting until next year.
They don’t think they got a fair shot with all the personnel and contracts handed to them.
They knew this at the beginning of the year.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:29 am
JONGRUDEN2013 Says: contest ends friday. Bring it.======
And the winner is:
“NorcoBob is Jon and Amy’s Love Child”
November 12th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The cold hard reality is that Mr. Davis made too many talent acquisition mistakes the last ten years.
As much as Mr. Davis did for the AFL, NFL and the Raiders in his career, he hurt this team for the last ten years.
We still have cap issues (Seymour and Kelly are an embarrasment). We still are a year away from a full set of picks but we will focus on our lines in the draft and start to get better.
Yes Hue and Cable both started to breakdown some of the old ways but even during those years, we NEVER beat a good football team. Look it up.
Good formidable teams with good Olines routinely kicked our a$$. Playoff teams constantly hammered us.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:35 am
LOL Llama man.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Safety Michael Huff left the game because of a calf injury, and safety Matt Giordano and tight end Brandon Myers suffered concussions. It was Myers’ second concussion of the season.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/12/4978209/trickery-adds-to-oakland-misery.html#storylink=cpy
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I didn’t even realize all these injuries piled up during the game yesterday. I must have shut it off before they happened.
Myers is no Graham, but this news isn’t too uplifting. 2nd hit to the noggin and following in Boss’ footsteps.
Now with Huff injured, do we resign Pat Lee?
Not looking good with Brees and Co. coming to town. Graham having 140 something yards this past week.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:41 am
…and DA does nothing but say how it’s all good.
DA doesn’t have the muscle to retaliate and the players don’t care enough to even be offended.
What’s disappointing about this new regime is the stuff we hoped to see change is not…it’s getting worse.
Players not caring, humiliating big plays against us, and then getting beyotch slapped by Harbaugh and just bending over and taking it.
DA can master every cliche in the book and think he’s part of the “club” cuz he sounds like a HC, but he’s not getting any respect when he turns the other cheek.
The lack of respect comes when he shows himself to be a worse coach than Hue Jackson.
He can “sound” like a HC all he wants and comport himself in a controlled, professional manner but at the end of the day it doesn’t mean jack if you’re getting humiliated on Sunday.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Flacco shredded our defense – stop and think about that for a minute. Joe Flacco, shredded out Defense.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Myers took a helmet to helmet hit late in that one from Pollard that didn’t draw a flag. How the refs missed it I’ll never know. Even that big dummy Dierdorf was going on about what a great, clean hit it was, but the unmistakable sound of helmet striking helmet probably could’ve been heard outside the stadium. Myers clearly looked shaken after that.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:44 am
DJ
There is no NFL team that has been mismanaged as badly as the Raiders the last ten years so you can not compare us to other teams and owners.
(I would argue that the Cowboys and Redskins are just as F@CKED UP in a shorter period of time)
The JR draft pick alone set us back five years from a cap and draft perspective. The biggest bust in NFL history.
This is a 3-5 year project.
The panic of Javon Walker, Randy Moss Deangeleo Hall etc etc should have told you something.
Games are won on the line of scrimmage and we have ignored the lines for the last ten years.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:46 am
We should draft CB Leon McFadden from SDSU.
The kid can play.
Go Aztecs!
Fear the Spear!
November 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
How many of you would LOVE to choke f_in Dan Dier-dousche??
He is the most condescending announcer toward the Raiders that I’ve ever heard (except mayber Paul McGuire)! Even Dan Fouts doesnt downgrade the Silver & Black like this d!ck… Must have gotten his a$$ beaten by the Raiders too many times during his career as his team’s jock-strap washer…
The Nation needs to petition CBS to ban him from all Raider broadcasts in the future!
November 12th, 2012 at 9:49 am
FIREREGGIENOW!
JUST TANK BABY.
November 12th, 2012 at 9:51 am
“How many of you would LOVE to choke f_in Dan Dier-dousche??
He is the most condescending announcer toward the Raiders that I’ve ever heard (except mayber Paul McGuire)! Even Dan Fouts doesnt downgrade the Silver & Black like this d!ck… Must have gotten his a$$ beaten by the Raiders too many times during his career as his team’s jock-strap washer…”
I agree 100%
November 12th, 2012 at 9:54 am
The season has slipped into bungle ville and carcass palmer worshipers are scrambling to to patch together any thing that loosley resembles progress.
In fact this has been the tale of two season for carcass palmer.
In the first half of the season palmer flashed improvement in the area he ahs been weakest for his career, turn overs . Up to the denver game he played relatively mistake free football, of course he could only muster up one win during that stretch. none the less he earned prasie from me as a guy that was playing to prove he deserved to start for our team.
Unfortunately caracss is beginning to tatter and fray and he has started to resemble the ghost of bungle past, only impersonating a raider qb.
Since the denver game (a blowout loss) where he logged is only turn over free game of the year, carcass palmer has been a human blooper reel. 10 of his 12 turnovers have come in the last 5 games.
this gives him an astounding total of 30 turnovers in only 19 games played!!!!!
Not only has carcass palmer failed horribly to provide the instant upgrade that so many touted and shouted upon his arrival he is in fact now bordering infamy as he rapidly encroaches into jarmarcuss russell futility as a qb. look at this
russel 7-18 38 turnovers in 3 seasons
carcass palmer 7-12 30 turnovers in 1.5 seasons
He has been so error prone that he is nosed diving at record breaking speed and must find a way to dig deep to avoid becoming russel no. 2
Russel was only a 3 year pro had a drug problem, fought depression with family deaths and was forced to play with rookies and for a clueless coaching staff that was a carousel during his time
Carcass is a 10 year vet, and if jarmarcuss doesnt have an excuse than neither does palmer, cut and dry.
Now that are several known former palmer apologist jumping ship and bailing on carcass here.
lofty, lefty, j hill, jb, dakota, to name a few have now joined the party late and have realized caracss is not the answer, although i warned them before carcass signed. jfb has even gone as far as to suggest trading palmer in a major about face, after screaming for months palmer was the solution to all of our woes.
A lonely group palmer worshipers remain with their heel dug in the sand and their heads buried in the sand along with them.
Time is running out on palmer and his try out phase is proving that he simply will never lead this team anywhere but to the bottom of the nfl where ha has spent most of his underachieving career with the bungles.
Somebody crack a window because carson palmer and his version of the raiders stinks
November 12th, 2012 at 9:58 am
The Myers hit sure was helmet to helmet…home cooking is alive and well in the NFL,which is why you must win at home.
As for the banner: WE Are The New Aint’s…
Reggie McMillen is in over his head…
November 12th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I’m not impressed with Reggie, but he is not doing too bad.
The 26 YO rookie and Mr. Meltdown #65 = bad!
Wheeler for Vet Min, Burris, and Streater= Good!
November 12th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Palmer is great he is the reason we have won 3 games this year.
You can bet your last dollar that Palmer will be here until he retires the coaches and front office all agree.
Phil Simms Dan Fouts Kurt Warner and almost every sports writers know this and are amazed at how Palmer is handling himself in the wake of a rebuild and yet some mislead angry racial bloggers lash out at Palmer because of his skin color and these dysfunctional degenerates claim that Cam Newton and Michael Vick are somehow better.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:02 am
It’s too early to judge Reggie.
DA is young, and he made mistakes (staff), but it’s too early to judge him too.
Knapp is Knapp, and he needs to go.
Tarver is young, lacks experience, but he has potential. I rather have a vet DC.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:02 am
give it a rest Mistic, the whole team sucks, and Palmer is the best of the worst.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:04 am
@Mistic
So sad…you watched that whole game and the only outrage you have is the play of Carson Palmer.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Mistic is not going to rest until his hate for whitey is known by all here.
Seriously Mistic you used to have valid points but now your just a racist ass- hole that spews his anger all over this blog.
You have officially dropped this blog to a new low!
November 12th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider O Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I’m not impressed with Reggie, but he is not doing too bad.
The 26 YO rookie and Mr. Meltdown #65 = bad!
Wheeler for Vet Min, Burris, and Streater= Good!
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I will never understand your hatred of a 3rd-round rookie offensive guard who’s not starting yet.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider E Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:02 am
give it a rest Mistic, the whole team sucks, and Palmer is the best of the worst.
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lol that isnt saying much is it
almost jamarcuss bad
November 12th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Mistic has turned morphed into Kell. One-trick pony.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:07 am
It isn’t saying much, I agree. Thats why Palmer is not worth talking about.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:08 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:04 am
@Mistic
So sad…you watched that whole game and the only outrage you have is the play of Carson Palmer.
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not my only outrage but you must remember that leading into the games the last two weeks i said carcass would have to win a shootout or play mistake free to keep us close.
he would need to overcome mistakes by players around him, but in fact he has been a major problem himself the last two weeks logging 5 turnovers.
do you realize that more than half of palmer picks have come in the 4th quarter this year?
cant win in the nfl that way, instant upgrade?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Baltimore scores 55 points #Palmersfault
Got a speeding ticket this morning I told the cop it was #Palmersfault
Wife divorced me for cheating on her I told her #Palmersfault
Did not pay my taxes for the last 5 years and I told the judge #Palmersfault
Boss threatened to fire me for screwing off at work I told him #Palmersfault
November 12th, 2012 at 10:09 am
As much as I like Reese, I really thought we would get a bigger dose of Jones… Dude needs to get a real shot at some point.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Mistic is not going to rest until his hate for whitey is known by all here.
Seriously Mistic you used to have valid points but now your just a racist ass- hole that spews his anger all over this blog.
You have officially dropped this blog to a new low!
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why drag race into this?
what is racist in what i posted this morining? do you need to read it again?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:11 am
1170: Right on the money.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:11 am
That was unwatchable. Utterly unwatchable.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Mistic loves when the golden haired hero loses doesn’t he? Hey Mistic so is Nick Foles part of this “new wave”? sure gave the team some life.
Towel is thrown in, bring me jon gruden. I don’t care what history says about coaches coming back blah blah blah. Gruden knows what the Raider tradition is and he knows how to get a team to play hard for him.
On a side note Gary Payton was watching the game the same bar i was at. Why is he a 9er fan if he’s from Oaktown? Raiders in LA at the time maybe….
November 12th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Also, where did Willie Smith come from? Is he REALLY better than Tony Bergstrom? I somehow doubt it…
I’m not a Palmer fan, but that O-line is still a work in progress…
November 12th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Cut Giordano, SloLando and Brisel asap, if not sooner.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:13 am
I am much more worried about the coaching staff than I am about Carson Palmer. That was not even football being played by the Raiders. In fact, I don’t know what the Raiders were even doing out there.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Mistic1 is a racist #Palmersfault
November 12th, 2012 at 10:16 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Mistic loves when the golden haired hero loses doesn’t he?
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He does. But hey, Mistic was really pulling for Jason Campbell and thought Palmer ruined that. But if you watched last nights Bears/Texans game and with everything on the line Campbell threw 6 checkdowns for 4 yards. L. Over. And there goes Mistics cred.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:17 am
LOL at blaming Palmer. The ONE unit he is responsible for is 5th in the NFL.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Palmer is kinda like sully to me now, i read his post up until i realize it’s a palmer bashing piece and move on. my guess is he doesn’t do a thing for his people, all talk, feels empowered by talking about his peoples plight on a raider blog of all places
November 12th, 2012 at 10:18 am
mistic i mean
November 12th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Mistic1,
I really wish for just one quarter you could wear Palmer’s shoes.
I truly believe you would see things alot differently.
Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:19 am
palmer is not the problem but he did not have a good game at all. Yes there were drops but he was off and he holds the ball too long. does not get thru his progressions fast enough. still I am glad he is our qb. the supporting cast we have surrounded him with sucks.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:20 am
How can Palmer hold the ball too long?
He has an avg. of 2.7 seconds to throw.
That would be 4th worst in the NFL, Genuis.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
have they been fired yet?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Doesn’t get through his progression fast enough? Are you kidding? Palmer has the least amount of time in the entire NFL at 2.57 seconds from snap to first contact. LOL. You want this guy to disect the coverage and make his way through his progressing in under 2.5 seconds? Why do you think he locks on to receivers so often… he doesn’t have TIME to make his progressions.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:22 am
man even the panthers have fired their spt coach…
November 12th, 2012 at 10:23 am
dennis allen seat is hotter than hookers crotch. he has led the team into more blowouts in his first year than even tom barney rubble cable did.
he has fallen short if what hu jack accomplished and his team is a lifeless turd
what makes it more damning is that the defense allens calling card has been down right awful.
I think he is in over his head, and should be swept out at season end. Someone mentioned chip kelly, i find this intriguing.
If you could pry him away from his cush post in eugene he would be the long sought after instant upgrade on offense, and would really take advantage of the young phenom tp6.
By the way allen has mismanaged tp6 is also disturbing as pointed out many times here by a few astute members of this message board.
Ther have been several blow out losses where pryor should have seen mop up duty. ther have been ample opportunities to put a samll package e of playes together for pryor the way denver did for tebow and the niners did for kapernic.
in fact even jake locker found a way to get on to the field with an established superbowl qb ahead of him
Now kapernic and locker whom i graded below pryor at draft time are prepared and ready to see significant action as pryor languishes and gets totally ignored for the guy that is supposed to help groom him carcass palmer.
well this farce cant continue and we are 3-8 after the bungle bowl ( the biggest game of caracss palmers raider career) it will be time to take the wraps off tp6.
It will be the only reason to watch this dreadful team.
Allen better wake up, and do a better job with the defense, and managing his young qb prospect
November 12th, 2012 at 10:23 am
come on reggie pull the plug on da, get gruden on the phone. Learn from the Buss family
November 12th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Doesn’t get through his progression fast enough? Are you kidding? Palmer has the least amount of time in the entire NFL at 2.57 seconds from snap to first contact. LOL. You want this guy to disect the coverage and make his way through his progressing in under 2.5 seconds? Why do you think he locks on to receivers so often… he doesn’t have TIME to make his progressions.
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Boom. Now there’s some reality for your azz.
LOL at the haters. They lock onto the one player performing at a high level. Hilarious, really.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:27 am
tp6 isn’t ready yet and may never be ready.
nick foles>mike vick
andrew luck>rgIII
what was jc’s excuse last night? oh yeah he’s not very good
christian ponder>joe webb
troy smith sucks
Cam Newton sucks
is this post racial? no it’s just to piss mistic off
November 12th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Mistic1 is a racist #Palmersfault
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you call me racist for criticizing palmer?
he is almost jamarcus bad over 19 games here
why dont you call me a racist when i rip giordono?
how come you say nothing when i blast huff branch romac or seymour and kelly?
is it only the qb that makes difference with race for you?
you dont have to answer your actions say it all
November 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Mystic1 thinks that the white man has a conspiracy that keeps black QB’s from winning Super Bowls.
I hope one day he realizes that Doug Williams was a pocket passer not a running “athletic” QB like the ones Mystic1 drools over.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
New Improved DAILY REMINDER
MR = the supavillain
November 12th, 2012 at 10:30 am
what was jc’s excuse last night? oh yeah he’s not very good
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Jason was 11/19 with a 4.9 yard average and a 70 QB rating. LOL. Sounds like Jason. He didn’t get the captain checkdown nickname for nothin.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Can you imagine this team with JC starting and our current runnig game? We would never cross mid-field.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.
Why not have QB’s in the NFL act like RB’s like a college team does?
DUH it wont work pal this is a passing league running QB’s are for college and they will stay there!
You are not only a racist you are a bitter person with a deep seeded hate for white QB’s
November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Gotta say, Dan Diedrof has to top the list of America’s biggest tools. The man is like a blender, has no brain at all. He describes the screen…”look at how he planted the left foot, and then the right foot…” LOL, incredible they gave that monkey a mike.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Mistic, did you get a funny feeling in your pants when JC came into the Bears game last night?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Chicago better hope Cutler gets right. They have too good a team to see it go to waste now.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am
I hated Dierdorf when he was on Monday Night Football.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am
mistics curly haired hero cam newton is a colossal bust. so is his other curly haired hero mike vick. JC the other curly hared hero of his showed his true colors last night= captain checkdown. re his other curly haired heroes joe webb and troy smith, they just aren’t good
November 12th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Mistic, did you get a funny feeling in your pants when JC came into the Bears game last night?
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LOL!
November 12th, 2012 at 10:34 am
for every one that wants to be upset about my post or accuse me of being racist or agenda driven please explain why this is acceptable
jamarcuss 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons
palmer 7-12 30 tunrovers 1.5 seasons
If it wasnt acceptable from jamarcuss then why does palmer get a pass?
try defending your position with actual football takes instead of mindless insults or talking about other qbs on other teams.
If you dont have an actual football take to back up your case then concede quietly
November 12th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Meanwhile, Andrew Luck doing quite a job down in Indy. How about them Colts?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
New Improved DAILY REMINDER
MR = the supavillain
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Sullivan seems like a wise elderly statesman compared to some of the new morons posting on this blog.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.
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never fails white men cant help but divide players along racial lines
Sb666 …..EXPOSED!!!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.
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Have to agree. MR, while often annoying, can actually be clever and funny. Gets people to fall into his traps.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
“I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.”
I concur!
November 12th, 2012 at 10:38 am
comparing jamarcus to palmer is like comparing Ryan leaf to warren moon…pathetic.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:38 am
“mistics curly haired hero cam newton is a colossal bust. so is his other curly haired hero mike vick. JC the other curly hared hero of his showed his true colors last night= captain checkdown. re his other curly haired heroes joe webb and troy smith, they just aren’t good”
I have to agree here
November 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
“comparing jamarcus to palmer is like comparing Ryan leaf to warren moon…pathetic.”
Perfect analogy
November 12th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Dennis Allen did not have his players prepared. Allen told us we would see week to week improvement. We haven’t. This trash makes Tom Cable seem like Vince freaking Lombardi.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:40 am
1208.bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.
He finally found a secret weapon, nothing has riled the masses like his wave of the future qb racist crap.
Same old MR. Grab a hold of a kernal of truth, use it to shape his debate, always steer back to it and insist that that truth be end of the debate
November 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Agree, Seymour. Have to question the coaching at this point.
DA and Co. = FAIL
November 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
meanwhile russel wilson contiues to shine as he is the FIRST ROOKIE QB SINCE THE MERGER IN 1970 TO WIN HIS FIRST FIVE STARTS
very very impressive. his 15 td passes is amongst the best in the rookie class, and he is winning.
looks like carol made the right choice, this kid is the truth
November 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
meanwhile russel wilson contiues to shine as he is the FIRST ROOKIE QB SINCE THE MERGER IN 1970 TO WIN HIS FIRST FIVE STARTS AT HOME
very very impressive. his 15 td passes is amongst the best in the rookie class, and he is winning.
looks like carol made the right choice, this kid is the truth
November 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
#1 on the hot seat: Tarver. His alignments are awful. Teams REPEATEDLY come out in the second halves march down the field and score. Honestly, I have no idea what Tarver is doing.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Have to agree. MR, while often annoying, can actually be clever and funny. Gets people to fall into his traps.
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You mean like this
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1220.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.
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never fails white men cant help but divide players along racial lines
Sb666 …..EXPOSED!!!!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Letting Bush walk and backing up an injury-prone running back with an injury-prone running back was a tremendous strategy by RM.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Where has MR been lately?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:45 am
russel wilson has manged to play 5 games this year free of turnovers
Palmer has only manged that feat once this season and a total of 3 times in his 19 games as a raider
November 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Russel Wilson 6-4
Big Ben 2004: 13-0
Now thats impressive!
November 12th, 2012 at 10:49 am
now he’s pumping up russell wilson, on a raider blog nonetheless. start you’re own blog, be proactive
November 12th, 2012 at 10:51 am
1231.Seymour Bush Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
#1 on the hot seat: Tarver. His alignments are awful. Teams REPEATEDLY come out in the second halves march down the field and score. Honestly, I have no idea what Tarver is doing.
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Yeah… because before Tarver came along this team was just shutting people down after halftime. You know… like the Buffalo game last year that we took a 24-3 lead into the half and then completely dominated defensively… oh wait.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Palmer 16 TD 13 total turnovers = worst D in the league , worst running game in the league. 125 more attempts
Wilson 15 TD 12 total turnover top4 D , top 4 Run game
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Wilson should do even better under those conditions, is he under freds “10 and then plan”?
November 12th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Letting Bush walk and backing up an injury-prone running back with an injury-prone running back was a tremendous strategy by RM.
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We didn’t let Bush walk. Bush bolted as soon as he could. I actually believe his decision was made prior to last season when he held out for more dough and we offered him the rfa tender.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:55 am
JaCampbell was in midseason form last night, checking it down every play, no matter what.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Sad, one of the headlines on my yahoo email reads “Ravens coach humiliates Raiders”. But yet Allen dont think so pffft what a pu$$y.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Too bad Palmer can’t blitz and/or cover in the secondary. Then we’d REALLY have something…
November 12th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Can’t judge Tarver yet. Too many injuries combined with too many disinterested check cashers. We should be able resolve both in the offseason.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:57 am
DA is not ready to be a NFL head coach.
Reggie is not ready to be a GM and probably never will.
Knapp was never a good OC.
Tarver is not ready to be a NFL DC.
Players saw this mess coming before we did.
The end
November 12th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Mistic, you should start your own blog dedicated to black QBs.
November 12th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I want to ask you guys about who’s the best coach in the NFL right now?
November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Palmers a very good Qb on a very poor team…. I’m rewatching the game now… He’s not the problem…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Reggie is not ready to be a GM and probably never will.
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Based on what? Not turning a mediocre to bad team into a playoff contender in less than 1 year when you start off 40 mill over the cap with only 3 draft picks?
November 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
fingers Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Palmers a very good Qb on a very poor team…. I’m rewatching the game now… He’s not the problem…
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please explain how 31 turnovers in 19 games is “very good”
November 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Reggie is not ready to be a GM and probably never will.
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Based on what? Not turning a mediocre to bad team into a playoff contender in less than 1 year when you start off 40 mill over the cap with only 3 draft picks?
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Exactly
November 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:51 am
1231.Seymour Bush Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
#1 on the hot seat: Tarver. His alignments are awful. Teams REPEATEDLY come out in the second halves march down the field and score. Honestly, I have no idea what Tarver is doing.
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Yeah… because before Tarver came along this team was just shutting people down after halftime. You know… like the Buffalo game last year that we took a 24-3 lead into the half and then completely dominated defensively… oh wait.
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touche.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Only an idiot would blame all the turnovers on Palmer… ANSI don’t need to explain anything… You need to learn what ” team game “… I’m watching the game right now… We’re lucky to have Palmer …
November 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Please explain how Cam Newton is very good? what you mean by very good ? like leading a team back to #1 pick?
November 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
fingers Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Only an idiot would blame all the turnovers on Palmer… ANSI don’t need to explain anything… You need to learn what ” team game “… I’m watching the game right now… We’re lucky to have Palmer …
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take it up with the nfl stat keepers
dont shoot the messenger
November 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I’ve seen missed tackle after missed tackle… Stupid penalties … Poor coverage … And dropped passes… Not 1 of those mistakes was caused by Palmer…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Charlie Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The cold hard reality is that Mr. Davis made too many talent acquisition mistakes the last ten years.
As much as Mr. Davis did for the AFL, NFL and the Raiders in his career, he hurt this team for the last ten years.
We still have cap issues (Seymour and Kelly are an embarrasment). We still are a year away from a full set of picks but we will focus on our lines in the draft and start to get better.
Yes Hue and Cable both started to breakdown some of the old ways but even during those years, we NEVER beat a good football team. Look it up.
Good formidable teams with good Olines routinely kicked our a$$. Playoff teams constantly hammered us.
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I have looked it up..We were up 2 scores on Detroit and blew it to lose by 1 point. We beat Houston on their home field. We got blown out by a 15 win team on their field & were beat by 12 points by the AFC Champion at home, and Campbell had a costly INT in the end zone that hurt.
The year before we got blown out by Pittsburgh on their home field…swept the AFC West division champion, lost by 5 against the Colts, and beat the NFC West champ by 30.
But hey if the 2006 Raider team has any bearing on why Tits & co. suck clue me in.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
The stats don’t miss tackles… Drop passes and hold…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Based on everything he has done since becoming GM.
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bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Based on what? Not turning a mediocre to bad team into a playoff contender in less than 1 year when you start off 40 mill over the cap with only 3 draft picks?
November 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
fingers Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Only an idiot would blame all the turnovers on Palmer… ANSI don’t need to explain anything… You need to learn what ” team game “… I’m watching the game right now… We’re lucky to have Palmer …
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take it up with the nfl stat keepers
dont shoot the messenger
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How is C Newton very good?
November 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Worst staff in the league. Fail
November 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Well Carson Palmer got his yards in that blowout.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:09 am
The were down 10 points in the first Qtr….not Palmers fault…
Penalties and poor Defense…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:09 am
I like Palmer I’m in his corner but he has to make better decisions. Too many INT’s, not all are his fault but that 1 at the end of the Tampa game and the one in ATL….stingers man….stingers!
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fingers Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I’ve seen missed tackle after missed tackle… Stupid penalties … Poor coverage … And dropped passes… Not 1 of those mistakes was caused by Palmer…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:10 am
KK, whats Reggie’s record as GM ?
Has the DOW recovered from Husseins re election yet?
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KoolKell Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Well Carson Palmer got his yards in that blowout.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Bcz24 Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Reggie is not ready to be a GM and probably never will.
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Based on what? Not turning a mediocre to bad team into a playoff contender in less than 1 year when you start off 40 mill over the cap with only 3 draft picks?
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Remember that MistaBrown also beat us over the head for months with the upcoming “Romney Landslide.” His predictive skills leave something to be desired, to put it mildly.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mistic I agree with you 100%. TP should be used whenever possible. DA & Reggie have something big against the kid I think. Could use him in certain packages, but certainly could have gave him some much needed game experience in some of these blowout. It’s too bad Mark Davis is too dumb to see what a huge mistake he made by hiring Reggie (and in turn DA). I think the only way to get through to him is not support this regime one bit. If were Mark Davis I would fire the entire staff and give unlimited control to Jon Gruden. I guarantee he would not put up with this crap and would use TP.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mistic… Your gripe is a personal dislike of Palmer… Plain and simple…has nothing to do with his play…. Your obsessed …
November 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
fingers Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I’ve seen missed tackle after missed tackle… Stupid penalties … Poor coverage … And dropped passes… Not 1 of those mistakes was caused by Palmer…
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this is a common defense for palmer, but it is moot as no one has blamed palmer for missing tackles or anything other than his turnovers and the part they play in the losses.
It was well documented about the teams defensive woes, and palmer needed to play error free to keep us in a shootout the last two weeks, he failed logging a miserable 5 turnovers
November 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I wish they would start Pryor for a week… just to show you dummies the truth. You’d be screaming for Palmer by the end of the first quarter.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Palmer played pretty well yesterday. His only INT was because the D-Lineman batted his pass and made a great play. That is more the offensive line’s fault than Palmer’s.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Cam Newton 12 TD’s 16 TO’s
How are those good #’s
November 12th, 2012 at 11:13 am
It was well documented about the teams defensive woes, and palmer needed to play error free to keep us in a shootout the last two weeks, he failed logging a miserable 5 turnovers
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Yeah, if Palmer played turnover free yesterday we would have only lost by 28… that would have made us all feel soooo much better today.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Just watch Huff and Branch get burned deep again….. Palmers not on the field..
November 12th, 2012 at 11:14 am
wishbone Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mistic I agree with you 100%. TP should be used whenever possible. DA & Reggie have something big against the kid I think. Could use him in certain packages, but certainly could have gave him some much needed game experience in some of these blowout. It’s too bad Mark Davis is too dumb to see what a huge mistake he made by hiring Reggie (and in turn DA). I think the only way to get through to him is not support this regime one bit. If were Mark Davis I would fire the entire staff and give unlimited control to Jon Gruden. I guarantee he would not put up with this crap and would use TP.
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it is simple due diligence really
dont worry though, at the 3-8 mark there will be no way to excuse pryor being inactive, and there will be no way to sell tix unless pryor is in the game
November 12th, 2012 at 11:14 am
SO Mistic which of the “wave of the future” qb’s does Car go for next year with the #1 pick
November 12th, 2012 at 11:15 am
DA & Reggie have something big against the kid I think.
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Yeah, they have the fact that he isn’t a good QB against him.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
The batted balls were because the d knew the plays.. knapp sucks
November 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am
If were Mark Davis I would fire the entire staff and give unlimited control to Jon Gruden. I guarantee he would not put up with this crap and would use TP.
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Yeah, you would be firing Gruden in week 3 when we weren’t 3-0 too…
Refresh my memory as to which QB Gruden successfully developed in he HC career…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Russel is 6-4 with Seattle? with top 4 D and top 4 run O
Big ben was 13-0 with top 5 D and top 10 run O
November 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Marks hair Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
The batted balls were because the d knew the plays.. knapp sucks
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Exactly , Knapps play calling s8ckks
November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
actually Russell wilson was 5-5
November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Carolina will take clowney or jones.. like we could have if we excepted the rebuild and played tp.. wasted yr..
November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
If carson doesnt start winning and avoiding the turnovers what will his legacy be?
he has lost every maningful game he has played for us, including the int ending our season last year.
Including the last two weeks that we needed to keep our season alive.
i dont think anyone outside of this board will care about yardage totals when all is sadi and done and we are once again elemanted from contention.
That didnt save jeff george, or kerry collins, and it wont save palmer.
win or your out, that is how the nfl works for aging vet qbs
November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
IS*
November 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Refresh my memory as to which QB Gruden successfully developed in he HC career…
Bruce Gradkowski? Think that might be it…
November 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
WOW Newton have 10 Int, with 100 less attempts than Palmer, wow he s9ckk
November 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I’m watching midway through the 2nd qtr…. 17 to 3…
None of those 17 points are on Palmer … Again… He’s playing from behind because of a horrible defense… A terrible special team and a mistake prone Oline
November 12th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Marks hair Says:
November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Carolina will take clowney or jones.. like we could have if we excepted the rebuild and played tp.. wasted yr..
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No way they pass over any of the “wave of the future” qb’s with the # 1 pick
November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am
A tipped pass… Int …that’s on Palmer..
November 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Hey new post Mistic, tell me which qb will carolina take with the # 1 pick next year
November 12th, 2012 at 11:26 am
A PALMER DEBATE ON THIS BLOG..WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT !!!
November 12th, 2012 at 11:28 am
What is the point of having TP on the roster if he is gonna be inactive every week? If Reggie & DA think so little of this guy then cut him loose. Why not give Taiwan a ton of carries yesterday. So what if he fumbles. It wouldn’t have changed the game. Reggie and DA wanna blame Al for being hamstrung, but that doesn’t ex[lain the pure lack of effort on Defense which is supposed to be DA’s thing. I think DA has completely lost the team and what little respect they had for him in the beginning is gone. Time to clean house again, but this time get rid of the overpaid, underachieving, overrated players like McClain, Kelly, Seymour, Briesel, Carlisle & Curry. Time to cut ties with Dmac and get somebody who can play 16 games.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Racial insanity is alive and well in this here US of A.
The Raiders continue to lose games under Palmer, (BTW11-24 the last 3 seasons), they’re good enough to beat JVille, KC, and Pitt, but obviously find the way to lose against the better teams in the league.
Neither one of the team leaders, from BigMac Junior, Carcass, Big Rich has stepped out to take charge and make the team compete at the expected level. All we get from the post conferences is the same robotic bs we’ve have gotten accustomed to for what seems forever now. Of course is ridiculous to blame 55 points on Carcass, but he is not the upgrade nor the solution to make this team a winner, the trade from the very get go was wrong and made out of desperation.
LoNeal said in the Raiders post game the team was not only outplayed and out-coached, but was also outclassed. Who does LoNeal work for? A lot has been said about the new changes in the team, but getting outclassed by the Ravens? LoNeal also said that the team needs to bring in winners, because winning is contagious in some mysterious way, losing is also contagious. So, when LoNeal is talking about bringing winners, where does the team begin? Who goes and stays?
November 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
That resounding thud you heard last night was the utter failure of Jason Campbell.
The highest paid backup QB in the NFL was brought in specifically to come in and be a capable QB for the Chicago Bears. There is no other conclusion to be drawn except that he failed miserably.
The turd Campbell left on the field may take several years to clean up.
His constant checkdowns spelled utter disaster in what can only be described as a game which will serve to define his weak legacy in the NFL.
After rushing to Chicago as quickly as possible so that he could carry a clipboard for Jay Cutler, we knew one day Campbell would have his opportunity to prove he was worth the ridiculous contract he signed with the Bears.
With Cutler injured in the 1st half, JC was called upon to do what he was brought to Chicago to do in the first place….win the ball game.
To avoid costly interceptions, JC opted to take the safe route which proved even more costly. Constant checkdowns and short, safe passes left the Bears short of the first down on many occasions. When he did dare throw any medium range passes, they were horribly overthrown, leaving a disgusted and frustrated Bears fan base wondering why the team would throw away such an exorbitant fortune on an obviously untalented and unprofessional backup.
On one skipped pass that came up short in a critical situation to Devin Hester, it left the entire football universe wondering if JC was indeed mentally unstable. It quite possibly was the worst pass ever thrown in a professional football game…or pee wee for that matter.
The entire world is now vomiting in the aftermath of the horrific, inexcusable display of ineptitude by Campbell and shock and disgust at the amount of money they wasted to bring him to Chicago.
3 pt’s in a key matchup on national Tv? Inexcusable and unforgivable.
November 12th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
LMFAO at DJ Johnny #1295
November 12th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I feel bad for Palmer. First the Bengals, now this.
Bad organizations start at the top! Management hires the coaches, coaches (are supposed to) coach the players, players (are supposed to) make plays! Performance matters, and we have bad, bad performance! No heart, no focus, no desire, just pick-up the paycheck and show up for practice! What a disaster!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
pdr Says:
November 11th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I didn’t think these guys could go backwards so quickly, but wow. They’ve done it. Allen looks clueless on the sidelines each time something slightly controversial happens on the field. Hiring a rookie coach with a roster going through transition is a recipe for disaster. As much as hardly anyone wants to hear it, I really wish Mark Davis could have talked Gruden into coming back to coach this team. If Allen is in fact Reggie’s man, he couldn’t have made a bigger mistake, all things considered.
The defense just does not have the talent, the offensive line personnel is lacking as is the coaching, Greg Knapp’s play calling is terrible as is evidenced by how well the offense moves when Palmer is allowed to run the no-huddle, the personnel moves seem to be made with a focus on recreating the team and tearing down what little success was built in the last two seasons.
Today, I woke up with no hope for this game. Turns out I was right. It’s really hard to even watch football at all these days, I’ve started working on projects in the garage and try to avoid any media about the Raiders on Sundays to keep my blood pressure down. But I love this team too much to give up on them, and somehow I watch with the fascination of watching an impending train wreck.
Today delivered. It was embarrassing, but more embarrassing is how nonchalant some players are (in particular, Tommy Kelly). We really need to move the players on that are just going through the motions. No intensity, no anger, just… acceptance.
Ridiculous.
Best post of the day! Reality check indeed!!