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Notes and observations from Raiders-Ravens game

Eight days ago, the Raiders were within striking distance of the AFC West lead. Today, they are three games behind the pace-setting Denver Broncos and one more loss away from shifting their thoughts to 2013.
The quick turn of events illustrates just how fast a team’s fate can change in the NFL. The Raiders 55-20 loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, coupled with the Broncos victory over the Carolina Panthers, leaves the Raiders three games behind the Broncos and wondering where things went awry.
A scan of the stats from today’s game shows that the Raiders outgained the Ravens, converted a higher percentage of third-down plays and controlled the ball for far longer than the Ravens.
However, that’s why stats can be so misleading, too.
The Ravens outplayed the Raiders overall, especially on special teams and in making the big plays when it mattered most.
In particular, the Ravens returned a kick for a touchdown, turned a fake field-goal attempt into a touchdown and recovered a muffed punt return by Phillip Adams that led to another Ravens touchdown.
Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco also got far more out of his 341 yards passing than Carson Palmer did out of his 368.
Flacco passed for three touchdowns and consistently got the Ravens into scoring position with well-timed, well-placed throws.

– This was supposed to be the game that we got an extensive look at second-year running back Taiwan Jones, given injuries to Nos. 1 and 2 backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson.
Instead, the Raiders relied more upon fullback Marcel Reece and rookie Jeremy Stewart in the run game than they did Jones, who rushed only twice.
Reece rushed 13 times for 48 yards, Stewart seven for 22. Jones rushed twice for 6 yards and caught one pass for 7 yards.
Stewart spent the first part of the season on the Raiders practice squad. He was signed to the 53-man roster Saturday and played more than Jones, who has been active all season, one day later.

– The Raiders committed 10 penalties for 105 yards and looked nothing like the team that showed good composure and discipline in that regard for most of the first eight games.
Twice, linebacker Aaron Curry got called for personal-foul penalties. He talked at length about wanting to bring passion and energy to the Raiders in his first game back from injured knees.
Instead, Curry brought wreckless play that turned bad situations into worse. He needs to harness that energy and aggressiveness and make sure that his passion and energy are properly guided. Otherwise, he isn’t helping out the Raiders much at all.
Curry also saw some time on defense, something coach Allen said he intended to do with Curry as a means of giving the three starters a chance to get some rest and not play every snap.
Right guard Mike Brisiel committed a few penalties, as well, in one of his worst games of the season. Worse, he stepped on Palmer’s right foot on a fourth-and-one play that ended with Palmer on his backside and sacked.

– Backup quarterback Matt Leinart got into a game for the first time this season after spending the first eight on the sideline as Palmer played every down.
Leinart attempted one pass after entering the game late in the fourth quarter and the outcome not in question.

– Cornerback Michael Huff played really well for most of the first half in his bounce-back game from a subpar showing against the Buccaneers the week before.
Huff intercepted a Flacco pass that set up a Raiders field goal in the second quarter. He later came close to intercepting another pass.
However, he also got beat at least a couple of times on deep throws that helped change the complexion of the game.

– Huff wasn’t the only defensive back that struggled to contain the Ravens receivers.
On one play, wide receiver Torrey Smith ran past Huff, who appeared to be expecting help from free safety Matt Giordano once Huff let Smith go.
Instead, Smith ran a straight post route, with strong safety Tyvon Branch unable to get to Smith in time after leaving his man. Smith turned the busted coverage into a 47-yard touchdown.
On another play, a Ravens receiver ran a short post route, with Giordano late reacting to the quick cut inside. The receiver hauled in the pass for a touchdown.

– Ron Bartell returned to the lineup after missing the past seven games with a shoulder injury.
He appeared to hold up well, though he wasn’t able to make much of a difference in pass coverage, either. Flacco simply had too many open receivers too often for any one defender to stem the tide,

– The Raiders did a nice job bottling up Ravens running back Ray Rice, a player Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano compared to current Bucs running back Doug Martin.
Martin rushed for 251 yards and four touchdowns against the Raiders a week ago. Rice managed only 35 yards on 13 carries and 33 yards on four receptions.
Rice still found a way to make his mark on the game. He scored on a 7-yard touchdown just before halftime in turning a close game into a 27-10 margin.

– Adams muffed a punt once again. The Ravens parlayed the turnover into a touchdown one play later.
Jones and Joselio Hansen had an opportunity to recover the loose ball. However, the Ravens came out of the pile with the ball and capitalized right away.

– Things don’t any easier for the Raiders. Next up is a home game against the New Orleans Saints next Sunday, followed by a road game against the Cincinnati Bengals on Nov. 25.
The Saints handed the Atlanta Falcons their first loss of the season Sunday, and they head to Oakland riding back-to-back impressive victories and looking far more like the team that lost to the 49ers in the playoffs last season than the one that started 2-5 this season.
The Bengals drubbed the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Sunday, as they improved to 4-5, as well.
In other words, Allen and his coaching staff don’t have much time to get things corrected, and they have very little room for error the final seven games.

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  • inonewordraider

    come on reggie pull the plug on da, get gruden on the phone. Learn from the Buss family

  • Try Some Reality

    Bcz24 Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Doesn’t get through his progression fast enough? Are you kidding? Palmer has the least amount of time in the entire NFL at 2.57 seconds from snap to first contact. LOL. You want this guy to disect the coverage and make his way through his progressing in under 2.5 seconds? Why do you think he locks on to receivers so often… he doesn’t have TIME to make his progressions.

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    Boom. Now there’s some reality for your azz.

    LOL at the haters. They lock onto the one player performing at a high level. Hilarious, really.

  • inonewordraider

    tp6 isn’t ready yet and may never be ready.

    nick foles>mike vick

    andrew luck>rgIII

    what was jc’s excuse last night? oh yeah he’s not very good

    christian ponder>joe webb

    troy smith sucks

    Cam Newton sucks

    is this post racial? no it’s just to piss mistic off

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Mistic1 is a racist #Palmersfault
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    you call me racist for criticizing palmer?

    he is almost jamarcus bad over 19 games here

    why dont you call me a racist when i rip giordono?

    how come you say nothing when i blast huff branch romac or seymour and kelly?

    is it only the qb that makes difference with race for you?

    you dont have to answer your actions say it all

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Mystic1 thinks that the white man has a conspiracy that keeps black QB’s from winning Super Bowls.

    I hope one day he realizes that Doug Williams was a pocket passer not a running “athletic” QB like the ones Mystic1 drools over.

  • Plunketthead

    New Improved DAILY REMINDER

    MR = the supavillain

  • Try Some Reality

    what was jc’s excuse last night? oh yeah he’s not very good

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    Jason was 11/19 with a 4.9 yard average and a 70 QB rating. LOL. Sounds like Jason. He didn’t get the captain checkdown nickname for nothin.

  • bcz24

    I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.

  • Raider E

    Can you imagine this team with JC starting and our current runnig game? We would never cross mid-field.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.

    Why not have QB’s in the NFL act like RB’s like a college team does?

    DUH it wont work pal this is a passing league running QB’s are for college and they will stay there!

    You are not only a racist you are a bitter person with a deep seeded hate for white QB’s

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Gotta say, Dan Diedrof has to top the list of America’s biggest tools. The man is like a blender, has no brain at all. He describes the screen…”look at how he planted the left foot, and then the right foot…” LOL, incredible they gave that monkey a mike.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic, did you get a funny feeling in your pants when JC came into the Bears game last night?

  • Try Some Reality

    Chicago better hope Cutler gets right. They have too good a team to see it go to waste now.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I hated Dierdorf when he was on Monday Night Football.

  • inonewordraider

    mistics curly haired hero cam newton is a colossal bust. so is his other curly haired hero mike vick. JC the other curly hared hero of his showed his true colors last night= captain checkdown. re his other curly haired heroes joe webb and troy smith, they just aren’t good

  • Try Some Reality

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Mistic, did you get a funny feeling in your pants when JC came into the Bears game last night?

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    LOL!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    for every one that wants to be upset about my post or accuse me of being racist or agenda driven please explain why this is acceptable

    jamarcuss 7-18 38 turnovers 3 seasons

    palmer 7-12 30 tunrovers 1.5 seasons

    If it wasnt acceptable from jamarcuss then why does palmer get a pass?

    try defending your position with actual football takes instead of mindless insults or talking about other qbs on other teams.

    If you dont have an actual football take to back up your case then concede quietly

  • Try Some Reality

    Meanwhile, Andrew Luck doing quite a job down in Indy. How about them Colts?

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    New Improved DAILY REMINDER

    MR = the supavillain
    —–
    Sullivan seems like a wise elderly statesman compared to some of the new morons posting on this blog.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.
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    never fails white men cant help but divide players along racial lines

    Sb666 …..EXPOSED!!!!!!

  • Try Some Reality

    Bcz24 Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.

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    Have to agree. MR, while often annoying, can actually be clever and funny. Gets people to fall into his traps.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.”

    I concur!

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    comparing jamarcus to palmer is like comparing Ryan leaf to warren moon…pathetic.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “mistics curly haired hero cam newton is a colossal bust. so is his other curly haired hero mike vick. JC the other curly hared hero of his showed his true colors last night= captain checkdown. re his other curly haired heroes joe webb and troy smith, they just aren’t good”

    I have to agree here

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “comparing jamarcus to palmer is like comparing Ryan leaf to warren moon…pathetic.”

    Perfect analogy

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Dennis Allen did not have his players prepared. Allen told us we would see week to week improvement. We haven’t. This trash makes Tom Cable seem like Vince freaking Lombardi.

  • Plunketthead

    1208.bcz24 Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    I submit that MR is actually a BETTER troll than mistic. He changes his drivel up depending on his daily personality. Mistic continues to beat his head against the wall with this idea that Carson Palmer is the reason we are losing.

    He finally found a secret weapon, nothing has riled the masses like his wave of the future qb racist crap.
    Same old MR. Grab a hold of a kernal of truth, use it to shape his debate, always steer back to it and insist that that truth be end of the debate

  • Try Some Reality

    Agree, Seymour. Have to question the coaching at this point.

    DA and Co. = FAIL

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    meanwhile russel wilson contiues to shine as he is the FIRST ROOKIE QB SINCE THE MERGER IN 1970 TO WIN HIS FIRST FIVE STARTS

    very very impressive. his 15 td passes is amongst the best in the rookie class, and he is winning.

    looks like carol made the right choice, this kid is the truth

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    meanwhile russel wilson contiues to shine as he is the FIRST ROOKIE QB SINCE THE MERGER IN 1970 TO WIN HIS FIRST FIVE STARTS AT HOME

    very very impressive. his 15 td passes is amongst the best in the rookie class, and he is winning.

    looks like carol made the right choice, this kid is the truth

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    #1 on the hot seat: Tarver. His alignments are awful. Teams REPEATEDLY come out in the second halves march down the field and score. Honestly, I have no idea what Tarver is doing.

  • Plunketthead

    Have to agree. MR, while often annoying, can actually be clever and funny. Gets people to fall into his traps.
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    You mean like this

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    1220.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Mystic1 is obviously new to watching football he was watching a college games and thinking how much he loves watching black QB’s run the ball and he thinks to himself the NFL should do that.
    ==============

    never fails white men cant help but divide players along racial lines

    Sb666 …..EXPOSED!!!!!!

  • niceguymoe

    Letting Bush walk and backing up an injury-prone running back with an injury-prone running back was a tremendous strategy by RM.

  • Plunketthead

    Where has MR been lately?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    russel wilson has manged to play 5 games this year free of turnovers

    Palmer has only manged that feat once this season and a total of 3 times in his 19 games as a raider

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Russel Wilson 6-4
    Big Ben 2004: 13-0

    Now thats impressive!

  • inonewordraider

    now he’s pumping up russell wilson, on a raider blog nonetheless. start you’re own blog, be proactive

  • bcz24

    1231.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    #1 on the hot seat: Tarver. His alignments are awful. Teams REPEATEDLY come out in the second halves march down the field and score. Honestly, I have no idea what Tarver is doing.
    *************
    Yeah… because before Tarver came along this team was just shutting people down after halftime. You know… like the Buffalo game last year that we took a 24-3 lead into the half and then completely dominated defensively… oh wait.

  • mcfadden20.

    Palmer 16 TD 13 total turnovers = worst D in the league , worst running game in the league. 125 more attempts

    Wilson 15 TD 12 total turnover top4 D , top 4 Run game

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    Wilson should do even better under those conditions, is he under freds “10 and then plan”?

  • bcz24

    Letting Bush walk and backing up an injury-prone running back with an injury-prone running back was a tremendous strategy by RM.
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    We didn’t let Bush walk. Bush bolted as soon as he could. I actually believe his decision was made prior to last season when he held out for more dough and we offered him the rfa tender.

  • joetoronto

    JaCampbell was in midseason form last night, checking it down every play, no matter what.

  • RockyMountainRaider

    Sad, one of the headlines on my yahoo email reads “Ravens coach humiliates Raiders”. But yet Allen dont think so pffft what a pu$$y.

  • JLofty

    Too bad Palmer can’t blitz and/or cover in the secondary. Then we’d REALLY have something…

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Can’t judge Tarver yet. Too many injuries combined with too many disinterested check cashers. We should be able resolve both in the offseason.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    DA is not ready to be a NFL head coach.
    Reggie is not ready to be a GM and probably never will.
    Knapp was never a good OC.
    Tarver is not ready to be a NFL DC.

    Players saw this mess coming before we did.

    The end

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic, you should start your own blog dedicated to black QBs.

  • mcfadden20.

    I want to ask you guys about who’s the best coach in the NFL right now?

  • fingers

    Palmers a very good Qb on a very poor team…. I’m rewatching the game now… He’s not the problem…

  • bcz24

    Reggie is not ready to be a GM and probably never will.
    *******
    Based on what? Not turning a mediocre to bad team into a playoff contender in less than 1 year when you start off 40 mill over the cap with only 3 draft picks?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    fingers Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Palmers a very good Qb on a very poor team…. I’m rewatching the game now… He’s not the problem…
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    please explain how 31 turnovers in 19 games is “very good”