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Coach Allen not making ‘wholesale’ changes; Goethel out for season

By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Several teams around the league have responded to subpar play this season by making changes among their assistant coaches. Raiders coach Dennis Allen doesn’t see the need to go that route.
Allen said Monday in his weekly news conference that the evaluation process for everyone is ongoing.
“I’m not going to stand up here and say we’re making wholesale changes,” Allen said. “We’re going to look at every aspect of what we do, offensively, defensively and the kicking game, and if we feel changes need to be made, we’ll make those changes.”
Allen said his team’s defensive play of late, in particular, has been disappointing. They get one issue fixed, then another issue surfaces.
On Sunday, it was the pass defense. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco passed for 341 yards and three touchdowns. A week earlier, the Buccaneers rushed for 278 yards and four touchdowns.
“It wasn’t like (the Ravens) ran the ball down our throats,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said. “If a guy is wide open, running down the middle of the field, most times that’s not a physical problem. It just means somebody’s not covering him.”
Several times, Flacco found receivers wide open as a result of blown coverages or players late responding.
Veteran defensive end Andre Carter said it takes time for players to jell in a new scheme. The next step is becoming consistent from play to play, game to game.
“There’s no doubt in our minds that we are a talented team,” Carter said, “but being talented and going out on the field and having a high level of productivity, a high level of execution for 60 minutes, is another thing. That’s the level that we’re trying to be on.”
Allen deemed the performance of his defense against Sunday “unacceptable.” The Raiders defense and special teams allowed 55 points to the Ravens and 97 the past two games.
“I would hope that they would all be on edge because we all should be on edge,” Allen said.
Allen has said that the Raiders are going to have to find a way to win with the players on their 53-man roster. With that said, there is enough talent defensively for the Raiders to succeed. Again, it comes down to consistency.
“We have to play at a high level on every single snap in every single game,” Allen said. “Just like anybody else in the NFL, if you don’t play consistently, you’re going to have the ups and downs like we’ve had. I don’t look at it as a talent issue.”

– The Raiders lost backup linebacker/long-snapper Travis Goethel to a left knee injury, Allen said. Goethel suffered his injury against the Ravens.
Goethel will be placed on season-ending injured-reserve at some point soon. Allen said he intends to take a look at free-agent linebackers in the coming days.
Cornerback Michael Huff (calf), strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck), tight end Brandon Myers (concussion) and free safety Matt Giordano (concussion) also suffered injuries against the Ravens.
Myers and Giordano are undergoing the league-mandated tests for players that suffer a concussion. They can’t return to practice or play in a game until they are cleared by the medical staff.
Allen said he expects Huff to recover from his injury in time to play against the Saints. Branch is undergoing tests to determine the extent of his neck injury.

– Rookie Tony Bergstrom played on offense Sunday for the first time this season. He played a handful of downs on special teams the first eight games.
Bergstrom replaced Willie Smith at right offensive tackle for 17 plays.
“He did OK,” Allen said of Bergstrom, the Raiders highest draft pick this year. “He showed some of his youth, especially playing the tackle position. But there were some things there that I felt like were encouraging about the way that he went out and played.”
Even so, Allen said he “anticipates” veteran Khalif Barnes starting against the Saints on Sunday.
Barnes started the first two games at right offensive tackle before he suffered a groin injury that required surgery. Barnes returned to practice last Wednesday.

– Rookie running back Jeremy Stewart went from the practice squad to the 53-man roster to seeing action in a game in one day after spending the first nine weeks waiting for an opportunity.
He rushed seven times for 22 yards, while second-year back Taiwan Jones carried only two times for 6 yards.

– Linebacker Aaron Curry played 15 snaps in his first game of the season. He missed all of training camp and the first eight regular-season games while recovering from sore knees.
Curry replaced rookie Miles Burris on those 15 plays, as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver sought to give Burris a rest after playing every snap in recent games.
Curry recorded one tackle. He also got nailed twice for personal-foul penalties.

– Carson Palmer tops the AFC with 2,723 yards passing through nine games. He is third overall, trailing the Saints Drew Brees and the Falcons Matt Ryan.
Palmer and Brees square off Sunday. Palmer is on pace for 4,841 yards, which would eclipse Rich Gannon’s franchise record (4,689, 2002).

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  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    mcfadden20. Says: Mistic seems like a knowledgeable person , pretty sure half of the stuff he spews is straight outta his AH, but still seems like a smart guy , that’s why its even more frustrating to see him troll like this , why would a guy this much intelligent blame a QB after the D allows 55 points ?=================

    That’s easy. He’s not smart. He’s an idiot with verbal diarrhea.
    ==========

    lol only people that are stuck in a mode of blind worship would excuse 31 turnovers in 19 games and try to separate those turn overs from the pitiful 7-12 record

    wait i thought real football fans wanted the qb (the single most important position in all of team sports) to protect the ball and lead wins.

    especially a 10 year vet, I mean it isnt lke we are talking a bout a 2nd or 3rd year qb learning on the fly

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    REPOST:

    PALMER HATER EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Eli Manning threw 18 INT’s last year and won the Super Bowl.

    Right now the Raiders are 5th in the league in passing Palmer has the same amount of INT’s as Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford and the midget in Seattle.

    He has less INT’s than:

    Cam Newton!
    Tony Romo
    Eli Manning
    Andy Dalton
    Mike Vick
    Phillip Rivers
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Mark Sanchez
    Alex Smith
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Cassel

    SO YOUR PALMER THROWS TOO MANY INT’S IS A LIE!

    EXPOSED!!!!

    All you Palmer haters are here by exposed!!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051)
    • First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
    • First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
    • Fourth rookie quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards in a season.
    • Third most pass TDs (21) in a rookie season.
    • Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush)
    • Most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
    • Most rushing touchdowns by a rookie quarterback: 14
    • Along with Andy Dalton, the two make the first pair of rookie QB’s to make the Pro Bowl

    The td records are of course the most impressive

    greatest rookie qb season of all time

    —greatest was big ben 13 – 0 season

    13-0 >>> 3-13 what ever their record was

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I ran out of trees! Where is that green wow? lol
    I broke a pipe to smoke the resin. I need my fix. I’m glad we don’t have any hemp products at home. I will smoke that crap too.

  • DMAC

    Raider O Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    I ran out of trees! Where is that green wow? lol
    I broke a pipe to smoke the resin. I need my fix. I’m glad we don’t have any hemp products at home. I will smoke that crap too.
    =========

    Head up North this weekend and enjoy some of the finer/greener things of life in Northern Cali.

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    havnt been to a game since the Raids beat Chicago last year. Schedule changes have got me recording the games and watching them when I get home.

    Unless the Saints bring a huge turnout this Sunday I might miss this next one completely. I smell a blackout in the air.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    LOL Mr. Prez. I will never leave if I make it up north.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Ok im done for now saints coming soon

    Palmer will need to play a perfect turn over free game in order to keep us close or this too will be a boat race with our ship capsized and sinking to the bottom.

    Palmer must generate some positive momentum before the biggest game of his raider tenure

    BUNGLE BOWL 2012….yuck

  • DMAC

    Whats a Drexl? Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    havnt been to a game since the Raids beat Chicago last year. Schedule changes have got me recording the games and watching them when I get home.

    Unless the Saints bring a huge turnout this Sunday I might miss this next one completely. I smell a blackout in the air.
    ========

    I actually think they’ll be enough “Who Dats” in the stands to possibly sellout….
    Of course w/ a little Amy magic as well!

  • fangsraiders

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051)
    • First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
    • First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
    • Fourth rookie quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards in a season.
    • Third most pass TDs (21) in a rookie season.
    • Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush)
    • Most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
    • Most rushing touchdowns by a rookie quarterback: 14
    • Along with Andy Dalton, the two make the first pair of rookie QB’s to make the Pro Bowl

    The td records are of course the most impressive

    greatest rookie qb season of all time

    —greatest was big ben 13 – 0 season

    13-0 >>> 3-13 what ever their record was ======== A. LUCK A REAL WHITE QB WILL OWN THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THOSE RECORDS THE BABOON WAS LUCKY TO SET……CAM IS A LOSER

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    DMAC Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Whats a Drexl? Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    havnt been to a game since the Raids beat Chicago last year. Schedule changes have got me recording the games and watching them when I get home.

    Unless the Saints bring a huge turnout this Sunday I might miss this next one completely. I smell a blackout in the air.
    ========

    I actually think they’ll be enough “Who Dats” in the stands to possibly sellout….
    Of course w/ a little Amy magic as well!
    =========
    I hope you’re right,
    In Amy I trust!!!

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    mcfadden20. Says: Mistic seems like a knowledgeable person , pretty sure half of the stuff he spews is straight outta his AH, but still seems like a smart guy , that’s why its even more frustrating to see him troll like this , why would a guy this much intelligent blame a QB after the D allows 55 points ?=================

    That’s easy. He’s not smart. He’s an idiot with verbal diarrhea.
    ==========

    lol only people that are stuck in a mode of blind worship would excuse 31 turnovers in 19 games and try to separate those turn overs from the pitiful 7-12 record

    wait i thought real football fans wanted the qb (the single most important position in all of team sports) to protect the ball and lead wins.

    especially a 10 year vet, I mean it isnt lke we are talking a bout a 2nd or 3rd year qb learning on the fly

    —-

    Eli Manning had 22 total total turnovers last year, with full camp and everything, didn’t stop them from winning the championship

  • R8ER MIKE

    ODB
    Do you guys have a taco/burrito truck out there in da streetz?

    *************
    not around here but in D.C. and they are hella good !!

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Mistic, Greek culture heavily influenced Roman culture. But, the two languages have nothing in common.

    “Historical linguistics has come a long way since 1859. The obvious syntactic similarities between Greek and Latin are mostly due to their both being fairly conservative Indo-European languages. Lexically they’re not very close at all. Nowadays everyone categorizes them as being in fully separate branches of the Indo-European family.”

    http://latindiscussion.com/forum/latin/relation-of-latin-to-greek.8476/

  • fangsraiders

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers ===== LUCK OWN THIS NOW!!!!!
    • Most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051)==== LUCK WILL SHATTER THIS !!!!!!

    • Third most pass TDs (21) in a rookie season. ====LUCK WILL BEAT THIS!!!!

    • Most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706 ====WHO CARES…BECAUSE HE’S TOO DUMB TO READ A DEFENSE
    • Most rushing touchdowns by a rookie quarterback: 14===WHO CARES…SEE ABOVE

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Raider O Says: I’m glad we don’t have any hemp products at home. I will smoke that crap too.=================

    What happened to my khakis? O smoked ‘em.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “CAM IS A LOSER”

    I agree

  • mcfadden20.

    Pretty ridiculous to bag on guys turnovers when half of them happened in this games >>>> 3 int against KC aftering coming in for Boller training 28-0 , 3 came the following week against Den, how much of playbook does he really know after being on the job for 3 weeks ? 4 came against GB, after we trailed like by 24 heading into 2nd half , 3 came against TB after we trailed by 18 heading into the 4th

    that’s like 13 in 4 horrible situations he was put in

    12 int in rest of the 15 games

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    In a classic example of unintended consequences, Miss Tick makes Fangs seem less repugnant.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Mistic, Greek culture heavily influenced Roman culture. But, the two languages have nothing in common.

    “Historical linguistics has come a long way since 1859. The obvious syntactic similarities between Greek and Latin are mostly due to their both being fairly conservative Indo-European languages. Lexically they’re not very close at all. Nowadays everyone categorizes them as being in fully separate branches of the Indo-European family.”

    http://latindiscussion.com/forum/latin/relation-of-latin-to-greek.8476/
    ================

    Both were spoken by the so called elite and educated class of rome

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “In a classic example of unintended consequences, Miss Tick makes Fangs seem less repugnant.”

    Post of the year right here folks!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    lol at haters trying to erase cams records like they meant nothing, sorry fellas take it up with the nfl stat keepers

    who cares if records are broken by guys this year or in the future the fact that cam set the bar when he did is documented history and records are made to be broken

  • DMAC

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    ODB
    Do you guys have a taco/burrito truck out there in da streetz?

    *************
    not around here but in D.C. and they are hella good !!
    =====

    Are you down to make some serious cash?
    I’m going to bring my custom burrito truck out to Maryland. I hope this fker makes it.
    http://www.pacovilla.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/CDCR-Smoke-Van.png

  • mcfadden20.

    He got 12 ints in games other 15 games, not as talented receivers top qbs enjoy , not as good protection top qbs enjoy , not as good OC’s top qb’s enjoy

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    lol at haters trying to erase cams records like they meant nothing, sorry fellas take it up with the nfl stat keepers

    who cares if records are broken by guys this year or in the future the fact that cam set the bar when he did is documented history and records are made to be broken

    —–
    Aren’t you the same guy who always saying palmer’s records mean nothing , it’s all about win-losses

  • mcfadden20.

    Same guy who makes excuses for Cam Newton’s rookie year and call it a slump , wouldn’t excuse CP’s first couple of games lol

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    fangsraiders Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    13-0 >>> 3-13 what ever their record was ======== A. LUCK A REAL WHITE QB WILL OWN THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THOSE RECORDS THE BABOON WAS LUCKY TO SET……CAM IS A LOSER
    ========

    see blatant racism on this board.

    You call me racist but i have never said anything close to this kind of trash.

    i bet this is probably one of you hiding behind a fake handle

    proof that cork and mac are full of shid, saying he “doesnt see it’ on this board, but he admits to reading the board.

    this is the reason why I love malcolm and ther messenger, and nat turner and huey p and marcus garvey

    we must defend ourselves from you. funny you call us baboons but when you shave an ape his skin is white.

    savage hate is a neanderthal trait

    is this what is meant whe they say “ill be a monkeys uncle”

    http://www.google.com/imgres?start=120&num=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=885&tbm=isch&tbnid=HC7ogiS1oUZwXM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8448660.stm&docid=L-ZnALNZUCuqlM&imgurl=http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47069000/jpg/_47069672_000756621-1.jpg&w=226&h=250&ei=ruCjUKONKsG0igK9jIHICA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=360&vpy=461&dur=56&hovh=200&hovw=180&tx=122&ty=77&sig=102072398314617654220&page=4&tbnh=139&tbnw=129&ndsp=43&ved=1t:429,r:37,s:100,i:115

  • mcfadden20.

    Jason Campbell couldn’t lead his team to a TD in the 2nd half after being with the team whole year, yet he wants to guy to come in off the couch and lead us to wins first couple of weeks

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    Mistic, Greek culture heavily influenced Roman culture. But, the two languages have nothing in common.
    “Historical linguistics has come a long way since 1859. The obvious syntactic similarities between Greek and Latin are mostly due to their both being fairly conservative Indo-European languages. Lexically they’re not very close at all. Nowadays everyone categorizes them as being in fully separate branches of the Indo-European family.”

    http://latindiscussion.com/forum/latin/relation-of-latin-to-greek.8476/===========================

    We’re all continuing our education correcting Miss Ticks misconceptions and she’s benefiting not at all.

  • R8ER MIKE

    DMAC Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:15 am
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    ODB
    Do you guys have a taco/burrito truck out there in da streetz?

    *************
    not around here but in D.C. and they are hella good !!
    =====

    Are you down to make some serious cash?
    I’m going to bring my custom burrito truck out to Maryland. I hope this fker makes it.
    http://www.pacovilla.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/CDCR-Smoke-Van.png

    *****************
    lol lol … thought it was pizza ??

  • MiamiRaider78

    Fangs is in a league of his own.

  • mcfadden20.

    watch Mistic will bunch fangs who’s not a Raiders fan together with us who ever disagree with him on his football takes

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Same guy who makes excuses for Cam Newton’s rookie year and call it a slump , wouldn’t excuse CP’s first couple of games lol
    ==============

    why does palmer a 10 year vet need an excuse?

    no one has said being in a sophomore slump is an excuse.

    the fact that many players endure this only means that you have evidence tha player do come back from this (matt ryan joe flacco) for example, so its best to remain patient

    i have never heard of a 10 year vet getting patience after only posting 2 winning seasons in a decade

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: savage hate is a neanderthal trait==========================

    That’s a good line. Maybe you should try being a lyricist or poet. Just trying to find something you might be good at.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    peace nation….racist nation

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    MiamiRaider78 Says: Fangs is in a league of his own.===

    We hope he doesn’t have any company.

  • DMAC

    I don’t know how some of you can withstand reading some of this schit while high.
    I couldn’t do it.
    This schit would fk up my high.
    Real talk.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure

    Working out a safety, huh. Guess they like Huff at corner and Gio as back up. I concur.

  • DMAC

    Purvisman/Intrepid/ Full Disclosure Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Working out a safety, huh. Guess they like Huff at corner and Gio as back up. I concur.
    =====

    Whatever happened to Henry?

  • Tezooo

    Raiders signed ex-Eagles LB Omar Gaither and placed LB Travis Goethel on injured reserve.

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Same guy who makes excuses for Cam Newton’s rookie year and call it a slump , wouldn’t excuse CP’s first couple of games lol
    ==============

    why does palmer a 10 year vet need an excuse?

    no one has said being in a sophomore slump is an excuse.

    the fact that many players endure this only means that you have evidence tha player do come back from this (matt ryan joe flacco) for example, so its best to remain patient

    i have never heard of a 10 year vet getting patience after only posting 2 winning seasons in a decade

    I never said Palmer needs excuses, i only just mentioned that half of those Total turnovers you talk about happened in these 4 games:

    1st game coming into game down 28-0 = 3 int
    2nd game = 3 int
    GB game when GB went into half time 31-0 , did you know GB scored in their first 5-6 drive ? = 4 int

    then the TB game when the D allowed the TB to score on their first 3 2nd half drives , and Palmer went to 4th quarter down 18 = 3 int

    13 int 4 games

    12 int in other 15 games

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Both were spoken by the so called elite and educated class of rome
    —–
    Yes, this is true. But the languages are not related.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    DMAC,

    It’s the only way to read this crap.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    REPOST: again…

    PALMER HATER EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Eli Manning threw 18 INT’s last year and won the Super Bowl.

    Right now the Raiders are 5th in the league in passing Palmer has the same amount of INT’s as Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford and the midget in Seattle.

    He has less INT’s than:

    Cam Newton!
    Tony Romo
    Eli Manning
    Andy Dalton
    Mike Vick
    Phillip Rivers
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Mark Sanchez
    Alex Smith
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Cassel

    SO YOUR PALMER THROWS TOO MANY INT’S IS A LIE!

    EXPOSED!!!!

    All you Palmer haters are here by exposed!!!!

  • Raiderbuck

    Levi Damien ‏@LeviDamien

    #Raiders have signed LB Omar Gaither.

  • depcharger

    yes, hopefully he can coach.

  • assassin32

    To those who think Palmer throws to many interceptions, you would need to deduct those thrown because the receiver ran the wrong route. The Raiders have a core of young and in-experienced receivers who haven’t jelled with Palmer. Right now, Palmer is the reason we have any chance to stay in games (see the hurry up sats b-4 the half ends). Just my 2 cents…