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Coach Allen not making ‘wholesale’ changes; Goethel out for season

Several teams around the league have responded to subpar play this season by making changes among their assistant coaches. Raiders coach Dennis Allen doesn’t see the need to go that route.
Allen said Monday in his weekly news conference that the evaluation process for everyone is ongoing.
“I’m not going to stand up here and say we’re making wholesale changes,” Allen said. “We’re going to look at every aspect of what we do, offensively, defensively and the kicking game, and if we feel changes need to be made, we’ll make those changes.”
Allen said his team’s defensive play of late, in particular, has been disappointing. They get one issue fixed, then another issue surfaces.
On Sunday, it was the pass defense. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco passed for 341 yards and three touchdowns. A week earlier, the Buccaneers rushed for 278 yards and four touchdowns.
“It wasn’t like (the Ravens) ran the ball down our throats,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said. “If a guy is wide open, running down the middle of the field, most times that’s not a physical problem. It just means somebody’s not covering him.”
Several times, Flacco found receivers wide open as a result of blown coverages or players late responding.
Veteran defensive end Andre Carter said it takes time for players to jell in a new scheme. The next step is becoming consistent from play to play, game to game.
“There’s no doubt in our minds that we are a talented team,” Carter said, “but being talented and going out on the field and having a high level of productivity, a high level of execution for 60 minutes, is another thing. That’s the level that we’re trying to be on.”
Allen deemed the performance of his defense against Sunday “unacceptable.” The Raiders defense and special teams allowed 55 points to the Ravens and 97 the past two games.
“I would hope that they would all be on edge because we all should be on edge,” Allen said.
Allen has said that the Raiders are going to have to find a way to win with the players on their 53-man roster. With that said, there is enough talent defensively for the Raiders to succeed. Again, it comes down to consistency.
“We have to play at a high level on every single snap in every single game,” Allen said. “Just like anybody else in the NFL, if you don’t play consistently, you’re going to have the ups and downs like we’ve had. I don’t look at it as a talent issue.”

– The Raiders lost backup linebacker/long-snapper Travis Goethel to a left knee injury, Allen said. Goethel suffered his injury against the Ravens.
Goethel will be placed on season-ending injured-reserve at some point soon. Allen said he intends to take a look at free-agent linebackers in the coming days.
Cornerback Michael Huff (calf), strong safety Tyvon Branch (neck), tight end Brandon Myers (concussion) and free safety Matt Giordano (concussion) also suffered injuries against the Ravens.
Myers and Giordano are undergoing the league-mandated tests for players that suffer a concussion. They can’t return to practice or play in a game until they are cleared by the medical staff.
Allen said he expects Huff to recover from his injury in time to play against the Saints. Branch is undergoing tests to determine the extent of his neck injury.

– Rookie Tony Bergstrom played on offense Sunday for the first time this season. He played a handful of downs on special teams the first eight games.
Bergstrom replaced Willie Smith at right offensive tackle for 17 plays.
“He did OK,” Allen said of Bergstrom, the Raiders highest draft pick this year. “He showed some of his youth, especially playing the tackle position. But there were some things there that I felt like were encouraging about the way that he went out and played.”
Even so, Allen said he “anticipates” veteran Khalif Barnes starting against the Saints on Sunday.
Barnes started the first two games at right offensive tackle before he suffered a groin injury that required surgery. Barnes returned to practice last Wednesday.

– Rookie running back Jeremy Stewart went from the practice squad to the 53-man roster to seeing action in a game in one day after spending the first nine weeks waiting for an opportunity.
He rushed seven times for 22 yards, while second-year back Taiwan Jones carried only two times for 6 yards.

– Linebacker Aaron Curry played 15 snaps in his first game of the season. He missed all of training camp and the first eight regular-season games while recovering from sore knees.
Curry replaced rookie Miles Burris on those 15 plays, as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver sought to give Burris a rest after playing every snap in recent games.
Curry recorded one tackle. He also got nailed twice for personal-foul penalties.

– Carson Palmer tops the AFC with 2,723 yards passing through nine games. He is third overall, trailing the Saints Drew Brees and the Falcons Matt Ryan.
Palmer and Brees square off Sunday. Palmer is on pace for 4,841 yards, which would eclipse Rich Gannon’s franchise record (4,689, 2002).

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  • Marks hair

    Just burn the place down for the insurance money.. dont bother evacuating the team..

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    How are all you die hard fans holding up??

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I think it’s funny that Missus Beeecham is the only one who has comments removed for being abusive. The moderators must find Beeech Dawg to be pretty funny. Or, maybe they don’t like all the homophobic crap. I guess the racist stuff is OK, though.

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Come join me and brien and thec and hawaiin dude and others at my tailgate Sunday,…lots of booze and pills and pot and BBQ,..classic metal and old school rap,..and Eddie Money plays the parking lot at 11:00,..awesome!!

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Good one MiamiRaider78 S #1687 LOL

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    JONGRUDEN2013 if I come to your tailgate will you drop acid with me or maybe trip on some shrooms?

    I have some amanita muscaria…

  • LA to TheBay

    1691.Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:32 am
    There hasn’t been an 8-8 team that turned around and the made the playoffs the next year, in years.

    ———

    And of course nothing ever changes in the NFL, right?

    I’m sure competent GMs all over the league, other professional sports, business, government, etc, etc look at theit little numbers and say “well, we were mediocre last year and actuarials show that we won’t make the playoffs/goal next year anyway, so let’s hire a bunch of unqualified fools to take over this year rather than build on any positivies we had.”

    8-8 is just a number. Other teams have gone from worse than 8-8 to a winning record the following year by building on what they have. Sticking with what worked and improving upon what didn’t.

    A lot of it comes down to players, schedule, turnover, management, funny bounces of an oblong shaped ball on a (usually) grass playing field.

    Point is, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it and if it is broke… fix it.

    Thus far, 2012 Raiders management/coaching has managed to break what was working and not fix what wasn’t… possibly broke it further.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    bcz24 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Mistic thinks ‘negro’ is latin for dead
    =========

    i dont think so i know so smart guy

    the letter G was introduced into old latin as a variant of the letter c

    Therefor the word negro has a root in the word necro which means DEAD

    this is why the word negro was used specifically for afrikans as a way of dehumanizing them and justifying their treatment

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G

    study up then SHUT THE FUGG UP

    It is too easy clowning you

  • R8ER MIKE

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  • John David Booty

    Raider O Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
    You people can’t understand that good GMs and coaches find ways to win?
    Miami won using the wildcat, and Denver won with Tebow.
    ———————————————
    Simple as this. Put your players in positions to be successful. Thats the job of an HC. No excuses for how bad the team has looked this year. People can call out the roster all they want. I dont buy that this roster is as bad as what we have seen on the field. We can definitely use more playmakers, and yes, we do have some bad players on the team, but as a whole unit, this roster can definitely be used a lot better than how DA, Knapp, and Tarver have been using them. I believe that. Ive seen coaches do more with far less talented squads than what we have. These clowns that are our coaching staff are being outcoached at a ridiculous rate. Bottom line.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    I imagine the Raiders would be a lot more enjoyable under the influence of hallucinogenics.

  • Golden Haired Hero

    Raider O Says: The guy was asking me for proof that he was biased.
    Who? This guy? I don’t see any bias.
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says
    it makes no sense to me that with talented guys like DHB moore streetr and criner that brandon myers is the reception leader. I mean are he and palmer roommates?
    That is like owning a garage fool of sports cars but choosing to race in a model t

  • R8ER MIKE

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    I imagine the Raiders would be a lot more enjoyable under the influence of hallucinogenics.

    ****************************
    LOL … it works for me !!

  • JONGRUDEN2013

    Sure bring some Im up for anything,..bring brien a hit too.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    1691.Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:32 am
    There hasn’t been an 8-8 team that turned around and the made the playoffs the next year, in years.

    ———

    And of course nothing ever changes in the NFL, right?

    I’m sure competent GMs all over the league, other professional sports, business, government, etc, etc look at theit little numbers and say “well, we were mediocre last year and actuarials show that we won’t make the playoffs/goal next year anyway, so let’s hire a bunch of unqualified fools to take over this year rather than build on any positivies we had.”

    8-8 is just a number. Other teams have gone from worse than 8-8 to a winning record the following year by building on what they have. Sticking with what worked and improving upon what didn’t.

    A lot of it comes down to players, schedule, turnover, management, funny bounces of an oblong shaped ball on a (usually) grass playing field.

    Point is, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it and if it is broke… fix it.

    Thus far, 2012 Raiders management/coaching has managed to break what was working and not fix what wasn’t… possibly broke it further.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Good post.
    QBs drafted with the 1st pick never had a winning season. Luck is 6-3.

  • Golden Haired Hero

    Good morning, Mistic. Beautiful day to be a raider fan, don’t you think?

  • boss01

    Tommy Kelly should be first to go come offseason.

    Never accepts blame or responsibility, somehow the db’s losing receivers are to blame. Never mind that since there is no pass rush they are forced to cover for more than 7 seconds sometimes.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    Golden Haired Hero just ignore it and “IT” will go away.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Are you retarded am I really having to explain this like you are a bunch of 2 year old’s?

    Eli Manning threw 18 INT’s last year and won the Super Bowl.

    Right now the Raiders are 5th in the league in passing Palmer has the same amount of INT’s as Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford and the midget in Seattle.

    He has less INT’s than:

    Cam Newton!
    Tony Romo
    Eli Manning
    Andy Dalton
    Mike Vick
    Phillip Rivers
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Mark Sanchez
    Alex Smith
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Cassel

    SO YOUR PALMER THROWS TOO MANY INT’S IS A LIE!

    EXPOSED!!!!

    All you Palmer haters are here by exposed!
    =========

    lol at sb666 trying desperatly to justify his love affair with the failed bungles reject

    Also trying to bite my style but you dont have the minerals to pull it off

    fitz and sanchez clearly suck

    cutler romo vick rivers dalton and smith have all been in the playoffs more recently than palmer

    newton only posted the greatest rookie season in the 90 plus year history if the nfl

    I would take every guy on this list (except fits and sanchez) over palmer.

    Mike brown agrees he told carson to scram, and dalton has wiped the memory of carson clear out of the minds of the bungles faithful

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Simple as this. Put your players in positions to be successful. Thats the job of an HC. No excuses for how bad the team has looked this year. People can call out the roster all they want. I dont buy that this roster is as bad as what we have seen on the field. We can definitely use more playmakers, and yes, we do have some bad players on the team, but as a whole unit, this roster can definitely be used a lot better than how DA, Knapp, and Tarver have been using them. I believe that. Ive seen coaches do more with far less talented squads than what we have. These clowns that are our coaching staff are being outcoached at a ridiculous rate. Bottom line.”

    Cable had less talent was a half tard and won more games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • bcz24

    Necro isn’t even Latin you moron. Its Greek. The Latin for ‘dead’ is mortis. Everyone knows that negro MEANS black and it comes from the Latin root word Niger (which is obviously were the most commonly us racial slur came from)

  • Marks hair

    id make evrybody wear silver & pink till we can play and coach like raiders.. ginger nipple pink.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    PALMER HATER EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Eli Manning threw 18 INT’s last year and won the Super Bowl.

    Right now the Raiders are 5th in the league in passing Palmer has the same amount of INT’s as Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford and the midget in Seattle.

    He has less INT’s than:

    Cam Newton!
    Tony Romo
    Eli Manning
    Andy Dalton
    Mike Vick
    Phillip Rivers
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Mark Sanchez
    Alex Smith
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Cassel

    SO YOUR PALMER THROWS TOO MANY INT’S IS A LIE!

    EXPOSED!!!!

    All you Palmer haters are here by exposed!!!!

  • Golden Haired Hero

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    I think it’s funny that Missus Beeecham is the only one who has comments removed for being abusive. The moderators must find Beeech Dawg to be pretty funny. Or, maybe they don’t like all the homophobic crap. I guess the racist stuff is OK, though.========================

    That’s how he/she posted. You get removed here, you disappear entirely.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Golden Haired Hero Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Raider O Says: The guy was asking me for proof that he was biased.
    Who? This guy? I don’t see any bias.
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says
    it makes no sense to me that with talented guys like DHB moore streetr and criner that brandon myers is the reception leader. I mean are he and palmer roommates?
    That is like owning a garage fool of sports cars but choosing to race in a model t
    —-
    Palmer throws to Meyers because he is white. That’s pretty obvious. SMH

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Golden Haired Hero Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Raider O Says: The guy was asking me for proof that he was biased.
    Who? This guy? I don’t see any bias.
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says
    it makes no sense to me that with talented guys like DHB moore streetr and criner that brandon myers is the reception leader. I mean are he and palmer roommates?
    That is like owning a garage fool of sports cars but choosing to race in a model t
    =============

    if anyone says that brandon myers is a more talented or dangerous pass catching option than any player on our wr group they must be smoking crack

    kill yourself

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    bcz24 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Mistic thinks ‘negro’ is latin for dead
    =========

    i dont think so i know so smart guy

    the letter G was introduced into old latin as a variant of the letter c

    Therefor the word negro has a root in the word necro which means DEAD

    this is why the word negro was used specifically for afrikans as a way of dehumanizing them and justifying their treatment

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G

    study up then SHUT THE FUGG UP

    It is too easy clowning you
    ============================
    Fabulous stuff!! The comedy is starting early today.

    This asshat has been literally getting pummeled on this blog for days, pushing some of the best melt down material through his “gangster” keyboard the blog has seen so far this year, and yet his delusional mind thinks he is “clowning” someone.

    Unfreaking beleivable. :)

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “Sure bring some Im up for anything,..bring brien a hit too.”

    I also have a couple of Filipino hookers and a vat of lambs blood I need to do a ritual its basically a sacrifice to Satan before each home game…..would you mind if I drew an upside down pentagram in lambs blood in your tale gate area and sacrificed a couple of virgins to the dark lord…would that be “ok” with you and Brien?

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    kill yourself
    ======================
    Why do you even bother to log in?

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    Meyers has the most catches because 1) He gets open, 2) He can catch the ball, and 3)Knapp’s system likes the TE.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

    “This asshat has been literally getting pummeled on this blog for days, pushing some of the best melt down material through his “gangster” keyboard the blog has seen so far this year, and yet his delusional mind thinks he is “clowning” someone.”

    The funniest one was “blog street cred” that one had me LMAO

  • LA to TheBay

    TE is QBs best friend and often a safety valve. Sure, our WRS have talent but none of them have proven that they can be that true #1 guy. Moore flashes but his football IQ is lacking right now and DHB flashes too, is pretty tough and typically comes through when the ball is thrown his way but theres still something not natural about the way he plays the ball in the air.

    Criner and Streater, particularly Streater, have flashed too but are obviously rookies.

    Myers is breaking through and having a career year. This is a bad thing?

  • Just Fire Baby

    newton only posted the greatest rookie season in the 90 plus year history if the nfl

    *******************

    I thought it was all about W-L for a QB? He didn’t have as good a year as Dalton, and isn’t haveing one now. Andy Dalton is a better QB than Newton. Deal with it.

    Best rookie year in 90 years, lol? On what passing yards? So is Palmer having the best sason in the AFC since he is leading the league?

    Your double-talk is so transparent.

    Cam Newton = 8-17 = colossal BUST

  • MiamiRaider78

    Those comments from anonymous players about Teblow is some coward shet. Losing causes some odd behaviour from both players and fans as well.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I had enough of this dumb racist crap.
    Thx Mistic, I enjoy reading about the N word on this blog.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Great work Mistic you mental midget. Is this what you wanted? People having a reason to talk about the N word and bashing black QBs?
    Do you feel better now about being black?

  • Raider-in-PA

    JONGRUDEN2013 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
    Come join me and brien and thec and hawaiin dude and others at my tailgate Sunday,…lots of booze and pills and pot and BBQ,..classic metal and old school rap,..and Eddie Money plays the parking lot at 11:00,..awesome!!
    ——————————–
    Damn, wish I could be there for that!!

  • VanHeathen30

    Where’s Reggie?
    Time for the man to come front and center and answer some tough questions…
    Like, when he was interviewed before the season and said “we’re going to be pretty good”…
    Was he serious and just can’t judge the team’s ability or was he LIEING to a loyal fanbase that seems to care a hell of a lot more than the Mgmt/coaches at this point…

  • http://www.AmyTraskshouldbeonmountrushmore.com Whats a Drexl?

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Where’s Reggie?
    Time for the man to come front and center and answer some tough questions…
    Like, when he was interviewed before the season and said “we’re going to be pretty good”…
    Was he serious and just can’t judge the team’s ability or was he LIEING to a loyal fanbase that seems to care a hell of a lot more than the Mgmt/coaches at this point…
    ============================
    Remarkably silent for a man with a plan,

  • bcz24

    Truthfully you don’t see a lot of interviews from Gms in season, so it isn’t too surprising for Reggie to be quiet.

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    GMs don’t normally speak to reporters or have press conferences.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I prefer our GM say mostly nothing, ever.

    All the GM’s that talk to the press frequently, pretty much stink.

    Press conferences announcing new hires or FA signing, maybe post-draft, things like that.

    Otherwise, he doesn’t need to say anything. It will all be fluff anyways.

  • DMAC

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    Congrats to Bob Melvin.
    Go A’s!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    I had a Crazy idea that I’m sure is inaccurate but thought provoking:

    Did big Reg knowingly hire a lame duck coach this year so he could properly evaluate the talent and really decide who stays and goes in preperation for a big 2013?

    In 2013 is Mr.Mcckenzie going to hire a coach with credentials (Andy Reid for example) and have the new coach start his new tenure with a fighting chance with more draft picks, more cap room etc;

    Maybe Reg wanted to get his feet wet with a passive coach in 2012 who would be easy to scape goat?

    Remember it was Big Reg that was highly reccommended to Mark Davis by Madden, Wolf etc; (Davis has no obligation to Allen)

  • DJ Johnny

    1733.Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
    newton only posted the greatest rookie season in the 90 plus year history if the nfl

    *******************

    I thought it was all about W-L for a QB? He didn’t have as good a year as Dalton, and isn’t haveing one now. Andy Dalton is a better QB than Newton. Deal with it.

    Best rookie year in 90 years, lol? On what passing yards? So is Palmer having the best sason in the AFC since he is leading the league?

    Your double-talk is so transparent.

    Cam Newton = 8-17 = colossal BUST

    Just give it up with Mistic. He’s an admitted black nationalist and white hater. You can’t take any of his analysis as credible.

    Read some of his posts where he talks about his admiration for the great white killers of old.

    He talks about Palmers int’s this yr. and that gets refuted so he goes to wins and losses and when you show how some of the guys he’s been touting have worse won loss records he pulls another obscure stat out of his hate filled arse.

    His hatred of Palmer goes far beyond his td to int. ratio or his won loss record.

    He’s trying to ruin the blog and turn it into his personal hate whitey forum.

    Read the meltdown from last night. It’s obvious.

    He is no different than fangsraiders only a little less in your face about it.

  • R8ER MIKE

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

    ********************
    in the words of our GreenParty Prez….
    ok then fuk you guys !!

  • DMAC

    Trying to be there this Sunday, but I’m not trying to spend a schit load of cash on some underachievers.
    Somebody hook a brother up?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Al lost 10 games or more for what 7 years or whatever it was?

    Don’t remember any in-season press conferences, ever.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    HB,

    You don’t give a HC a 4 year contract and fire him after 1 season.

  • bcz24

    If that were the case it would have been much easier to extend Hue by a year, than to give DA a 3 year contract. So no, not very likely at all.